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stephieboy

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The Sikh cop who saved a Muslim man from a mob attack is being hailed as a hero

World news This morning

In a viral video, Sikh police officer Gagandeep Singh is seen protecting a Muslim boy from an angry mob in a town in Uttarakhand, India. The Muslim man was allegedly found in a temple with a Hindu girl.

https://twitter.com/i/moments/1000792068279676934?cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjc18y&refsrc=email
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May 29, 2018 8:25am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The Sikhs are the good guys.
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:36am
  - stephieboy
    
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    I see so the Sikh Police officer should have stood by and let the mob have its way?
    
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    May 29, 2018 8:37am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      You’re one sikh puppy.
      
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      May 29, 2018 8:42am
      - stephieboy
        
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        Left, Rightand Cente, go and have chunder in your Kitchen sink!
        
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        May 29, 2018 8:43am
    - secondcumming
      
      If the Hindu girl was the same age as the wife of Muhammad, of course the mob should have had its way.
      
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      May 29, 2018 8:43am
    - chuk
      
      Stoooopidboy: How can you possibly infer that is what Odakyu-sen was suggesting?
      
      You are a twat of the first order who clearly judges others by your own low standards.
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:13am
      - VicParking
        
        Its all that praying, fasting and celibacy. Also with his goats being culled he cant partake in ?? any more.
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:22am
    - Duxton
      
      He should have done exactly what a Muslim police officer would have done in the UK when receiving a complaint about grooming gangs and/or rape.
      
      Oh, hang on…..
      
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      May 29, 2018 12:49pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      I was struggling to see the point of your first comment, and then you made your response to Ok-s. You are not orbiting the same galaxy as the rest of us.
      
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      May 29, 2018 3:50pm
  - kowtow
    
    Not always.
    
    ‘Canada frees Air India bomber, Sikh terrorist who killed 331 people in 1985 attacks’
    
    http://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2071396/canada-frees-air-india-bomber-sikh-terrorist-who
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:10am
    - cmm
      
      Well done. You found an outlier.
      
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      May 29, 2018 9:43am
      - kowtow
        
        And what an outlier that was!
        Anyone with a smidgeon of interest in international terrorist activities will be aware of Canada’s worst case of mass murder.
        
        Indira Gandhi was infamously murdered by her own Sikh body guard and the assault on the Golden Temple was precipitated by Sikh extremism ( depending of course on one’s view of who’s an extremist).
        
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        May 29, 2018 11:34am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The Sikhs are the good guys
    Yep, they have had a really bad rap in the United Kingdom where the PC media and Labour Party have not clarified that it is not all Asians involved in the child sex-grooming gangs.
    
    http://www.sikhpa.com/lord-singh-speaks-out-against-grooming-gang-roots-cover-up/
    
    However, it’s not just white girls who fall victim. For decades, Hindu, Sikh, and Christian organisations have raised concerns about grooming gangs. The latter have plagued our communities, so much so that a BBC documentary on the targeting of Sikhs was aired a few years ago. The common denominator is that victims almost always tend to be non-Muslim girls.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:23am
    - stephieboy
      
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      MaggyWassilief, the Sikhs are not necessarily the good guys all the time as has been shown over the bombing of Air India flight killing 331 on board back in 1985.
      
      Also the assassination of the India PM Indira Gandhi.
      
      Even if the grooming gangs have established to be all Muslims was that prove?
      
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      May 29, 2018 9:41am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        What does it prove? Perhaps that unfettered importation of sexually repressed, mysoginistic, third world males to a Western country where women enjoy freedom of expression and association isn’t a good idea?
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:01am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        stephieboy,
        Even if the grooming gangs have established to be all Muslims was that prove?
        
        Did you not read Lord Singh of Wimbledon’s words?
        Try these: It’s not racist or Islamophobic to raise a matter of significant public concern” and that “we cannot ignore the race of the perpetrators, but neither can we ignore the fact that victims of sexual grooming gangs are almost always non-Muslim”.
        
        We are doing no favours to the victims and the innocent amongst us by disguising the fact that some men of the muslim faith have been carrying out sexual assaults on an unprecedented scale in the UK, and the authorities and the Labour Party have been complicit in hiding this information.
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:15am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        “we cannot ignore the race of the perpetrators”
        
        Hm, their ideology/religion is a heck of a lot more relevant.
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:25am
      - Duxton
        
        “Even if the grooming gangs have established to be all Muslims was that prove?”
        
        There we have it. Proof, positive, that stephie is a nut-job.
        
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        May 29, 2018 12:53pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy Wassilief,
        
        “on an unprecedented scale “??
        
        Is it an established fact or is it more allegation and accusation territory?
        
        I would have thought similar repeated here or in Australia, Canada or the US etc.
        
        Wonder why not?
        
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        May 29, 2018 1:37pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Is it an established fact or is it more allegation and accusation territory
        
        Do you think Lord Taylor was lying in 2013 when he said ” 2,409 children and young people had been confirmed as victims of sexual exploitation by gangs or groups between August 2010 and October 2011.”
        http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-22617339
        
        Oh, do you think this Spectator article is incorrect?
        https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/03/telford-and-the-left/
        
        Do you think Ben Sixsmith is telling us porkies?
        http://quillette.com/2018/03/14/britains-grooming-gang-crisis/
        
        For nearly 20 years there has been systemic abuse and then cover-up of that sexual abuse of UK working-class girls by gangs of Pakistani/Bangladesh men.
        
        Yes, stephieboy, it seems unbelievable….
        
        But then 20 years ago, who believed the individuals telling of the scale and cover-up of sex abuse by Christian Clergy?
        
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        May 29, 2018 2:07pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW,
        
        Making a Monster: How The Times Created the Asian ‘Grooming Gang’
        
        ?????? “BBC Radio News with Julie Candler: Six members of a grooming-gang were convicted for a combined total of 87 years in Birmingham Crown Court today for offences against twelve girls, ranging in ages from 12 to 16. In sentencing, Judge Ferguson accused the evil gang members of preying on the vulnerable young girls from local care homes, to whom they had done irreparable damage.”??????
        
        Close your eyes. Visualise the appearance of the groomers. What ethnicity are they?
        
        The fictional BBC Radio example serves to illustrate the power of the media to inject racial biases into the collective consciousness. The imported dark-skinned savages with uncontrollable libidos preying on white girls trope has been a mainstay of white supremacist propaganda throughout. Having existed solely on the radical fringes of the right, UK newspaper The Times have helped elevate this stereotype into the mainstream with their creation of the Asian “grooming gang..”.
        
        https://medium.com/@Reg_Left_Media/making-a-monster-how-the-times-created-the-asian-grooming-gang-f944ad598822
        
        Again you fail to address the issue as to why now grooming gangs aren’t replicated in NZ, France, Canada, US, Australia etc
        
        What do you think that tells us?
        
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        May 29, 2018 3:37pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Again you fail to address the issue as to why now grooming gangs aren’t replicated in NZ, France, Canada, US, Australia etc
        
        Why should I answer all your questions stephieboy..
        You have failed to answer many of mine.
        
        But where is your evidence that there are no sex grooming gangs in the countries you list.
        
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        May 29, 2018 5:17pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Come on folks, we know nothing about the situation. Was he protecting a muslim *boy* found in a temple? Or a ‘man’, so what is accurate?
    
    They were doing what? Was this a ‘Romeo and Juliet’ situation or a rape of a minor, or weren’t they even having sex?
    
    Mob violence can never be the answer. A proper court hearing has to happen. How would you like to have some mob leader accuse you of something secondcumming – next moment you’re being necklaced without any chance of a hearing.
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:18am
- Harkman
  
  You’re going to break Hugh’s record if the traffic is even remotely normal. ?
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:00am
- kiwicambo
  
  thank goodness it didn’t happen in the UK. The police would have stopped the crime by arresting Tommy Robinson
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:48am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Never fear Stephen Lennon alias Tommy Robinson has been up before the courts on numerous occasions.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:57am
  - Scott
    
    Tommy Robinson has had some very rough justice. Arrested for reporting on Muslim rape gangs, tried and jailed all on the same day.
    Whatever happened to a citizen’s right to a fair trial and legal representation? The UK is losing it over their craven desire to shield Muslim rape gangs from justice.
    
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    May 29, 2018 2:30pm
peterwn

About BNZ failure on Saturday. The cause was a power failure at NAB’s (BNZ’s parent company) data centre in Melbourne. Now I thought that the Reserve Bank required NZ subsidiaries of foreign banks to be self sufficient with regard to governance (local boards), data processing etc. They should not be dependent on the parent banks for such services. This is especially as Australian banking regulations effectively give priority to Australian banking customers in the event of bank failure or other issues. In particular Westpac had to outlay a significant sum to achieve proper separation of infrastructure and services.
Therefore BNZ should not have been affected by a failure in Melbourne and the Reserve Bank and BNZ independent directors should be asking some hard questions of NAB. BNZ implores people to ‘be good’ with money – they should also ‘be good’ with their backroom services.
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May 29, 2018 8:25am
- VicParking
  
  Well you though wrong. Why do you think they allow overseas call centres, why do firms like facebook, twitter, google not have data centres in NZ. Make BNZ have a data centre or even a backup one in NZ and see their fees and interest rates rise.
  Ditto for all the other banks. I take it you are not a BNZ customer just a typical moaner.
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:29am
  - peterwn
    
    Ha! First time I have been called a ‘typical moaner’ here. For starters, the BNZ call centre is in Wellington. I have not heard of the NZ operations other three Aussie banks using overseas call centres.
    BNZ should already have a data centre in NZ, this is what the Reserve Bank required and it should be able to function independently of NAB’s Melbourne centre.
    Westpac had to outlay a significant sum to meet Reserve bank’s requirements some years ago. The overarching requirement is that issues with the parent bank should not bring down the NZ subsidiary. For example if an Australian Bank goes into receivership, and the receiver cuts off the NZ subsidiaries, or creditors cut off data services etc, the NZ subsidiary must be able to continue to function on a standalone basis. Saturday’s experience obviously shows that BNZ could not, so this needs to be sorted pretty smartly.
    ANZ’s NZ systems stem from the former National Bank’s systems so would be quite different from ANZ’s Australian systems.
    There is also the matter of privacy and sovereignty. If NZ banks’ customers’ data is hosted overseas then it is vulnerable to being accessed by court orders from host countries’ courts, so this is another reason the data should stay in NZ.
    As for the extra fees argument, the NZ only banks such as Kiwibank, TSB etc have competitive fees despite not having the economies of scale that the large Australian banks have.
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:58am
secondcumming

It’s cold in Auckland this morning. Anyone else experienced the same……problem?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd4GzXYUQAAnh1Y.jpg
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May 29, 2018 8:27am
- Poppa
  
  Good frost in Hamilton
  
  Great day though
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:32am
- Classic Liberal
  
  LOL, it was a bit cold sitting on the loo…
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:30am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Put the seat down before you sit?
    
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    May 29, 2018 11:45am
stephieboy

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Three cheers for the Diversity dividend!

Migrant ‘Spiderman’ who saved child praised by France’s Macron

A Malian migrant who scaled a Paris apartment bloc to save a four-year-old child was hailed Monday as an “example” by President Emmanuel Macron, who welcomed him to the presidential palace and offered him citizenship.

Two days after his daring rescue — viewed millions of times online — Mamoudou Gassama, nicknamed “Spiderman” by French media for his astonishing climbing abilities, met with Macron in the splendour of the Elysee Palace.

“You have become an example because millions of people have seen you. It is only right that the nation be grateful,” Macron told the 22-year-old, adding that his immigration status would be “put in order”.

Macron, who presented him with a medal for bravery, also offered him a job with the fire service.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-5778965/Hero-Malian-saved-child-French-citizenship.html
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May 29, 2018 8:29am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  I accidentally gave this tnuc a green tick . . .
  Sorry !!
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:40am
- EAD_TWO
  
  If I told you what I really thought about the spin being put on this non story I’d probably be arrested for a hate crime…..
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:52am
  - kowtow
    
    Yeah I couldn’t be bothered reading the story , it’s just diversity propaganda.
    But well done to the rescuer.
    
    What I wonder is what ethnicity was the shit Dad who let his child get into such a dangerous position.
    
    Was he a genuine cheese eating surrender monkey or yet more of the diversity dividend. If the rescuers race is so important then why not the shithead’s?
    
    Meanwhile Germany continues to be enriched.
    
    http://www.dw.com/en/dozens-of-refugees-police-clash-in-german-city-of-dresden/a-43961032
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:03am
    - Inandout
      
      This migrant aggro merely puts thoughts into German minds like, ‘was Hitler really that bad’? Merkel is driving a huge wedge between German families whose ancestors fought for the Nazis, and newly arrived (some say invaded) migrants who don’t give a fig for the lessons of European history. The established Germans far outnumber the migrants.
      
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      May 29, 2018 9:24am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        “This migrant aggro merely puts thoughts into German minds like, ‘was Hitler really that bad’? ”
        
        Yes, the migrant aggressive *new* Germans of islamist persuasion are probably pro Hitler. They tend to be anti-semitic and islamic aggression was admired by Hitler:
        
        ‘Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: “Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers […] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world.”[5] Wikipedia
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:40am
  - stephieboy
    
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    EAD TWO, possibly it might true but your unyielding dislike of Jews is legion.
    
    You’ve survived so far without any trouble with the law.
    
    Be of good “cheer.”
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:44am
- Harkman
  
  I give it three weeks before another Islam inspired terrorist attack occurs in France. ?
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:58am
  - Inandout
    
    Given that there are thousands of Muslim sleepers in France who are just waiting to be ‘triggered’, I think three weeks is being a bit generous.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:54am
- UpandComer
  
  https://youtu.be/30363QcHJ-o
  
  Watch this.
  
  I’d thank that man for his service, give him a monetary reward and a medal.
  
  Then, I’d immediately deport him. And everyone in his extended family. Then I’d make sure they were blocked from ever coming back at the border. But I’d give him enough cash to live well in his own country.
  
  England is no longer a modern state. The more I look the worse it is.
  
  England’s Home secretary is Sajid Javid. It does seem strange that the most startling and incredible abuses of government power, happen to coincide with the appointment of the first Muslim Home secretary. Muslims claim cringing minority status. They now own the most powerful office on the british government, and the fear is palpable.
  
  Lee Kwan Yu was right
  “In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion.”
  
  Tommy Robinson is the first victim of a Muslim government. Just like Britain now looks like Pakistan, so too does Detroit resemble South Africa on its gun crime.
  
  Enoch Powell will also be proven right. I hope the shape of the world is going to move people to the truth.
  
  Australia is going to go through this all over again when Labour win. The same exact formula.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:04am
  - stephieboy
    
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    UpandComer,
    
    “Tommy Robinson is the first victim of a Muslim government. ”
    
    Sheer Fantasies!
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:46am
    - kevn
      
      go back to sleep septicboys
      
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      May 29, 2018 9:55am
  - kevn
    
    @UpComer… So, the UK has a muslim Home Secretary (I didn’t know that) and a muslim Mayor for London. String pullers.
    The UK police on the streets must feel bad, surely.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:55am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      ‘The UK police on the streets must feel bad, surely.’
      
      Tommy supporters were yelling at them: ‘shame, shame on you.’
      
      But the Police will also be replaced.
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:55am
    - Paulus
      
      Many of the major city Mayors in the UK are also Muslim and some are allowing Sharia Courts to flourish.
      
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      May 29, 2018 1:42pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    OK, I listened to 2ZB Leighton Smith after 11 this morning to see how he handled the Tommy Robinson case.
    
    A bit inaccurate here and there, but a couple of good points:
    
    1. How you feel about Tommy’s politics is irrelevant. The frightening aspects are that someone can be thrown in jail for a long sentence for reporting [in front of a sentencing, not a trial, an important point most are missing] and then a gag order placed to stop a whole nation from knowing and discussing the issues.
    
    2. Some people Leighton respects are onto the issue, including Bruce Bawer: https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12378/tommy-robinson-injustice.
    
    This is important: Bruce is absolute not ‘far right’ (nor is Tommy). Also, Bruce Bawer is gay and has long been warning about what islamists want to do to our liberal societies.
    
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    May 29, 2018 12:41pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Sikhs also thrown out of the courtroom that day, but not arrested like Tommy: http://kippercentral.com/2018/05/28/watch-sikh-awareness-society/
      
      “Crucially, they say that on that day the trial was concluded and that a verdict was expected on that day.”
      
      I can’t repeat this enough, since people don’t seem to get it: Tommy was not endangering any trial! It was a day of sentencing.
      
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      May 29, 2018 1:11pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Pretty sure Sajid Javid is not a practising Muslim. Pakistani parents, born in UK.
    
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    May 29, 2018 12:58pm
    - UpandComer
      
      https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/30/for-sajid-javid-the-hostile-environment-is-political-and-personal
      
      It says nothing about that in the Guardian. Just another Muslim to be celebrated. Note that he states he is a sceptic about anti immigration ministers and he simply asserts ‘those aren’t our values’. No, they’re not his values.
      
      His values are what that video shows. The horrifying reality of a Muslim police state. All the rhetoric about Iran applies to Britain.
      
      He was the first to ‘break ranks’ over the ‘Windrush Scandal’ scandal being enforcement of immigration law.
      
      He is now the most powerful man in England. His appointment by May puts the absolute lie to her supposed controlled immigration front.
      
      He has to go back as well. If Tommy dies, Sajid Javid and Geoffrey Mason QC first for a visit.
      
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      May 29, 2018 2:26pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Politicians in England will only protect who they fear most.
    
    What a profoundly interesting state of affairs.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:02pm
- NZDirect
  
  Anyone know why the people watching from the balcony next to the child didn’t simply grab the hand and rescue the child themselves – seemed pretty staged to me
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:15am
- Longknives
  
  To borrow a Professional Wrestling term-
  
  I reckon this whole rescue thing was a ‘Work’.
  There is just so much about this that doesn’t make sense..
  
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  May 29, 2018 12:13pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  What is your point?
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:43pm
Captain Mainwaring

Why can’t this harridan keep her nose out of the political scene? Has she forgotten she got the arse card in 2008?
Or are the stories true that she’s still pulling the stupid little girl’s strings?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104284178/helen-clark-says-abortion-laws-need-updating-something-she-failed-to-do-when-in-power
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May 29, 2018 8:31am
- RalphT
  
  Captain, she obviously knows that we really, really miss her and so want her back…
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:36am
  - stigie
    
    Yeah, like a very sore rectum Ralph T !~
    
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    May 29, 2018 8:39am
    - stephieboy
      
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      stigie, ah glad to see that you lived in fear and torment under her 9 years as PM.
      
      Still recovering from severe delayed PTSD?
      
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      May 29, 2018 8:42am
      - RF
        
        Never mind you will be pleased to hear that Helen Clark could be the god mother for the child of the nation.
        
        Ardern is apparently on record stating that the child will be brought up by all New Zealanders.
        
        Did I miss something. Is this the second coming ?
        
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        May 29, 2018 9:00am
      - stephieboy
        
        RF,
        
        “Did I miss something. Is this the second coming ?
        
        Could well be and be careful you may miss out at the Pearly Gates.
        
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        May 29, 2018 9:48am
      - sooty
        
        Stephieboy, I think you are more likely to end up with a pearly hand from the second coming!
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:48am
    - RalphT
      
      stigie, that’s because we gave her the bum’s rush
      
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      May 29, 2018 9:03am
- Huevon
  
  Around 20% of pregnancies each year in NZ end in abortion. There are Family Planning clinics all over the country. This suggests to me there are no substantive problems with “access” to abortion.
  
  Women need to have 2 doctors confirm that there is “cause” for needing the abortion – the most common being that the pregnancy will negatively affect the mental health of the mother. It’s an open secret that this is a loophole to permit abortion on demand. At least it introduces some legal process to reflect the gravity of the procedure, and accord some basis (however flimsy) for ending the life of an unborn child.
  
  There are no real problems with the abortion laws in this country. The latest attempts at reform are an ideological crusade driven by radical feminism and nothing more.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:03am
  - Philview
    
    Oban in Hungary has suggested a liberal political ideology where non breeding of incumbent population is encouraged and can be replaced with immigrants to destroy the nation state and need for borders. His view sounds extreme but the extreme liberal ideology is out there in many books as well.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:45am
  - srylands
    
    Yes I agree. I tend to avoid the topic with my friends because it tends to ruin social occasions. However to a female friend who is in the reform camp, I said “beware of unintended consequences”. Women currently have reasonably free access to abortion. It is not impossible that attempts to liberalise access, and to remove it from the Crimes Act, could lead to a more restrictive regime. Especially if MPs are given a conscious vote. Or even if some of them are, e.g New Zealand First MPs.
    
    Leave well enough alone.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:56am
    - lifesgood
      
      Women are idiots if they think removing it from the crimes act is a good idea. The restriction is to prevent the horrors and deaths of women from back street abortionists.
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:20am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Lifesgood, no. Medical procedures by unqualified people will always be illegal.
        
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        May 29, 2018 11:02am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    If 1 in 5 pregnancies ends in abortion that tells me that family planning education and technology is not reaching an awful lot of people.
    Abortion needs to be an option of last resort, not a barbaric means of fertility management.
    There are many contraceptive techniques to be employed before abortion becomes a necessary consideration for an unwilling mother.
    Perhaps those Irish women rejoicing at their ‘achievement’ should reflect on that.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:58pm
    - MH
      
      yes i find it amazing that the issue of getting pregnant is less discussed or dealt with than the decision to abort. What is there to be joyous about in abortion? In this day and age why are “Irish women”still getting pregnant? Next week we will discuss the reasons why NZ women are getting pregnant and having abortions and the need for 3- 6 kids for others.
      
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      May 30, 2018 11:08am
- ex-golfer
  
  Funnily enough even Martyn Martin has called her out on Twitter this morning:
  https://twitter.com/CitizenBomber/status/1001198320302284800
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:04am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Never heard anything about abortion law as a medical procedure.
  But we sure saw it, as she aborted
  1. The economy
  2. The health portfolio
  3. The military
  4. the police
  5. Our standing in the world
  6. Freedom of speech (electoral finance act)
  etc etc
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:05am
  - Jack5
    
    …and the Air Force.
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:39am
- Harkman
  
  Remember when Helun Cluck fell over herself during the 2008 campaign? Gosh that was so funny, it still is ?
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:05am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Funny how she got a job at the UN within days of promising her electorate she would represent them for 3 more years. Afterall isn’t that what an election actually is?
    Q: How long had she had this job lined up?
    ie knew she would lose the election.
    Who in the media knew? and didn’t say before the election.
    I fail to believe that a Labour party, who are such self entitled blabbermouths, didn’t talk to a media “friend”.
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:02am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Helen is clever.
      She always has had a Plan B.
      She has always been informed.
      
      I don’t believe the Labour followers had any awareness at all that they were going to lose in 2008.
      I was working with lots of them, and had my spies in the ~~Corridors of Power~~ Thorndon alleyways. I think quite a few folks got a bit of a surprise.
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:58am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Clever…more like rat cunning.
        A clever person would never have been caught out in:
        Paintergate
        speeding in Canterbury
        Corngate
        etc
        and every other lie she told.
        
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        May 29, 2018 11:48am
      - sooty
        
        Job offers were just flowing in after the UN. Had to beat them off with a stick!
        
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        May 29, 2018 12:05pm
      - RF
        
        Clark is a nasty piece of work who hung those cops out to dry when she was speeding to Christchurch.
        
        After watching Ardern in action I see Clark has been able to pass on her ability to tell blatant lies.
        
        Ardern has also lost her Pollyanna looks and is fast becoming a Clark clone.
        
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        May 29, 2018 3:22pm
- Harkman
  
  Anyone see the celebrations in Ireland? Notice the crowd was filled with white woman in their 20s and 30s? Have you all noticed that wherever you go in the world there is always Irish? Well I’m not the morals police or a Christian fundamentalist but I’m willing bet you folks $5 that in 20-30 years a similar crowd in Ireland will be decidedly ‘darker,’ and Irish groups will be moaning about immigration. Heck the square in Dublin where they were celebrating in will probably be replaced by a Mosque.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:14am
  - Huevon
    
    I get that abortion is one of those unavoidable ugly facts of life. But isn’t it ghoulish to see young women laughing and cheering over their “right” to it?
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:30am
  - dubya
    
    I’m pro-choice, and don’t want children myself, but found the ‘celebrations’ in Ireland very morbid.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:34am
    - MCos
      
      I suspect it was more to do with breaking free from the grip of Catholicism than a celebration of abortion.
      
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      May 29, 2018 11:05am
      - kowtow
        
        What grip of Catholicism?
        
        Right now the Protestants who keep the idiot PM May in office ( who congratulated the Irish on the result , why the fuck would a Conservative do that) won’t be allowing a similar referendum in the Protestant majority North.
        
        As to grip , they already voted in fake marriage , so the myth of Church control is just that, a myth.
        
        The celebrations are those of the feminist / progressives . The same people would demand protection of whales , dolphins and badgers , but for human babies , not so much.
        
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        May 29, 2018 11:44am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    “Anyone see the celebrations in Ireland? Notice the crowd was filled with white woman in their 20s and 30s? Have you all noticed that wherever you go in the world there is always Irish? ”
    Irish everywhere….couldn’t be because until recently, contraception and abortion were illegal?
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:04am
    - lifesgood
      
      The Irish have migrated forever, long before liberalisation of either was available in other countries. People think the Irish are a happy people. They are not, they are endlessly morose.
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:23am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Just listen to their folk songs going back 100’s of years.
        Neary a happy one among them.
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:35am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      “couldn’t be because until recently, contraception and abortion were illegal?”
      
      Indeed. A friend of mine in the 80s was travelling in Ireland with her partner and could not get medical help for contraception or buy any condoms. (They had planned ahead but there was a medical problem).
      
      Contraception is essential in a civilised world. Many other factors will help decide how many immigrants and of what ideology are taken in.
      
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      May 29, 2018 11:52am
      - MH
        
        good point, answers me tu above.
        
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        May 30, 2018 11:13am
  - RF
    
    It could be interesting to learn how many of the celebrating Irish beauties give positive pregnancy tests in 4 weeks time.
    
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    May 29, 2018 11:43am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Celebration!!!
      
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      May 29, 2018 11:50am
Paulus

Why is it I am not surprised to see a converted effort on every newspaper, and blogs making disparaging comments regarding Simon’s leadership.
This is obviously organised to reflect what they do not like that National’s support of the political scene has not dropped as was expected by them after the very poor budget.
It is obviously a co ordinated effort to denigrate Simon from the PR in the 9th floor and Labour HQ with all sorts of spurious ideas from the Labour Party. Unlike the Labour Party we are not actually fools.
I think they should take note that in the National Party currently it is not the pregnant Princesses that we look to it is the good of our country which is being seriously damaged
I and most other will vote National two ticks whatever no matter who gets the most points in any opinion poll.
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May 29, 2018 8:42am
- Dave Mann
  
  I too will vote two ticks National because they were and are my much preferred government….. but I seriously think that Bridges was the wrong choice. He was ‘safe’ when what the party desperately needed was ‘dynamic’ The man hasn’t achieved any cut through, frankly.
  
  This is not a media conspiracy either. If he were to say or do anything interesting or controversial at all, they would surely report on…. but he’s just so fucking bland …..
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:56am
  - lifesgood
    
    You clearly didn’t watch the budget debate. He was anything but bland. It is extremely difficult for him to get cut through when the media is lefty through and through. NZ seriously needs a msm right of centre newspaper. All praise to KB but unfortunately it mainly reaches a determined audience.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:04am
    - Dave Mann
      
      No TBH I didn’t watch the budget debate…. but neither did the other 99.86% of the population.
      
      As I’ve said before, the action isn’t in the ratified atmosphere of the House. The action is out in the world where the people are.
      
      Why has that despicable traitorous little drunken dwarf survived and thrived for all these years? Because he is a personality, he is outspoken and he takes risks. A bit like, say, oh… just to pull a name put of a hat… Judith Collins….
      
      If this Bridges character would pull someone’s ponytail or punch out a reporter or something, then that would get the ball rolling wouldn’t it? Failing that, maybe some strongly worded press releases…. something to demonstrate some bloody vision or passion.
      
      Nothing so far.
      
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      May 29, 2018 9:21am
      - brett68
        
        This, for a so called political blog I’m surprised so many don’t get that.
        
        Fact, For the media Bridges is dull, very hard to write column inches on Bridges.
        
        Fact, For the media Ardern is exciting, very easy to write column inches on Ardern.
        
        Media love Ardern because she makes their job easy.
        
        This is the environment that politicians operate in NZ, you don’t have to like it but that’s the way it is.
        
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        May 29, 2018 9:42am
  - KevOB
    
    Simon wasn’t bland in the budget debate.
    He has the prosecutors role and has to be seen to be following conventions. Part of his job is unleashing a team of attack dogs in the background. I’m sensing that happening. More ministers are at risk.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:08am
    - Harkman
      
      Yes, I wasn’t a fan initially but he was excellent on budget night. Both 6PM news shows edited it to be all about Cindy’s “my baby” and her “shouty, shouty…….plany, plany” and handouts. So he currently isn’t getting a fair shake but why is this not surprising? These are the same outfits that only show something when it is bad for Trump, never anything good. The key takeaway for Bridges is National is at 45% in two polls so he is unlikely to be dragging them down.
      
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      May 29, 2018 9:24am
      - lifesgood
        
        “pull a pony tail or punch out a reporter”
        Come on, that is crazy talk. The msm must be spewing that they have nothing to pin on Simon…don’t worry, they will be searching for it. The good thing is that he is behaving like a statesman, going around the country talking to big crowds and leaving his attack dogs to do the attacking. It may surprise those who want him to be a mongrel that there is a large percentage of the population who don’t want that. John Key was not a mongrel and look how popular he was.
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:04am
      - brett68
        
        Key was a complete puss.
        
        I don’t know why he bothered to be honest.
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:10am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Attack dogs????
      ??????
      Woof woof-woof
      
      I bet the government are shitting themselves! 😀
      
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      May 29, 2018 9:55am
  - pdm
    
    Bridges has been especially disappointing in the house and especially at Question Time where he does not even challenge Ardern.
    
    Compare that to Seymour you sat her on her backside twice in two goes – including once when she declined (as in refused) to answer the question.
    
    Bridges hasn;t gone close to that.
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:03am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:03am
- G152
  
  Wreckers got to wreck
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:25am
- artemisia
  
  Not all disparaging. There is the occasional faint praise. And we all know about faint praise.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:48am
- RW Capitalist
  
  I’m considering, going to see him for myself:
  Meeting in the Hutt Valley on Friday, 12 noon
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:05am
  - lifesgood
    
    If you do go let us know what you think of him.
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:25am
RW Capitalist

From TV 3..
JA……. nurses with 5 yrs, will get $200 per week extra
also, earlier
Nurses offered 9-16%
Now we have 2 points of reference, we can do this.
if a 9% rise is $200
Salary rise of $10 400pa
Current salary is…$115 000 to go to $125 400
if 16% = $200 per week
ie $10 400 pa
So current salary …$65 000 to go to $75 400
Massive difference, what do you suppose it is?
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May 29, 2018 8:50am
- ex-golfer
  
  She was caught out on the “facts” this morning on ZB. Tried to spin the latest offered increase as happening over three years.
  Hosking pointed out it is happening over 18 months.
  Even when faced with this “fact” she still insisted that its over three years.
  John Key might not have always done things right, but he always had a full grasp of the facts. JA just waffles her way through because………feelz.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:07am
  - KevOB
    
    Baby brain.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:10am
    - marcw
      
      Immature brain.
      
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      May 29, 2018 9:17am
      - VicParking
        
        School girl brain
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:34am
      - Jack5
        
        Educational qualifications: degree in public relations.
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:42am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I managed to work, run a household, and write up a Ph.D while preggers and with a young babe on tit.
      
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      May 29, 2018 9:44am
      - stephieboy
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        With a little help from the state with the family benefit and free state hospital maternity facilities?
        
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        May 29, 2018 9:58am
      - Jack5
        
        You Muzzies don’t like strong women, do yuh, Stephie X.
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:43am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I don’t recall much in the way of family benefit stephieboy…
        When the hubby and I went to work we made well above the average salary.
        
        But If you read Kiwiblog carefully, you should have come across some of my comments where I have expressed gratitude for my excellent education courtesy of the taxpayer.
        (although my old man had to shell out for 2 and half years boarding school fees when I was 9 and motherless).
        
        And I do extol the benefits of 1 week’s hospital maternity care … (now who cut that out?),
        and I did appreciate those damn good University bursaries and scholarships that paid for most of my tuition (now who decided Uni fees would be a good thing?),
        and I did appreciate all those part-time jobs I could get during the holidays ( oh dear, where did all those
        young-adult wage jobs go?)
        
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        May 29, 2018 11:17am
      - KevOB
        
        There are exceptional women. I suspect Jacinda is wilting already.
        
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        May 29, 2018 11:32am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Actually KevOB,
        my comments were really directed at you..
        Most mums nowadays either work through much of their pregnancies, or have households and other kids to manage and their brains don’t turn to jelly.
        
        A few may suffer from “baby brain” whatever that means…
        but I think terms like “baby brain”, “on the rag,” “going through the change” are just misogynist crap promulgated to keep females out of the highly paid workforce.
        
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        May 29, 2018 11:46am
      - MH
        
        I can’t hardly keep up with the picture updates 😉
        
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        May 30, 2018 11:20am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Yes hers, but she had that before the pregnancy.
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:08am
  - cmm
    
    She’s the Bridget Jones PM. We love her for her quirky bumbling incompetence.
    
    If Bridget Jones was competent, the Bridget Jones movies would have been boring as hell. People love that bumbling underdog story line.
    
    There is no Labour Party. It’s the Jacinda Party. As soon as she takes a back seat, people’s eyes will open and realise that Labour is really just what it was pre-elections: Andy Little and the 20-percenters.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:53am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Agreed cmm! That’s a very astute political analysis.
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:07am
- Harkman
  
  Yes and they are cutting Pharmac’s vital cancer drugs to pay for it.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:25am
- Colville
  
  The numbers put out last night to support the offer to nurses has been prepared by a retard.
  One of the examples I saw was based on the employee working something like 2600 hours per year and a good chunk of that time was on night shift.
  Complete BS
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:37am
- wreck1080
  
  My partner has 20 odd years in nursing, and is on 66k per year. Who really considers this is a good salary for what they do?
  
  A 9% increase will put her to 71k . It is not enough to catch up with teachers (who used to be roughly on par with nurses).
  
  After 7 years, most secondary teachers are on 78k per year.
  (https://www.teachnz.govt.nz/teaching-in-new-zealand/salaries/)
  
  Nursing salaries have slipped because it is predominantly female. Females are just not good at negotiating pay rises. I’ve observed this personally, men are more aggressive in negotiations (on average).
  
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  May 29, 2018 11:01am
  - Viking2
    
    Most teachers are women. That kinda bows that argument away.
    
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    May 29, 2018 8:17pm
  - MH
    
    women teachers are almost 90% of the profession?
    
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    May 30, 2018 11:23am
MT_Tinman

The Rugby Union are changing the tackle law.

For women’s rugby the new law (to create a fair game) will mean all tackles will need to be mid-thigh or lower.
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May 29, 2018 8:53am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Looks like the girls are rougher than the boys.
  or is that tougher, since they are changing the law, with more protections for the girls.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:00am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    since they are changing the law, with more protections for the girls.
    
    Only inadvertently.
    
    I forgot to mention the new law rules that tackles must be below the nipple line.
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:15am
- kowtow
  
  What happened to equality?
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:05am
  - sooty
    
    Bring back the biff, for everyone!
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:35am
RW Capitalist

So Nurses didn’t get rise under National?
Stories from 2016
Thousands of nurses, midwives and health care assistants will receive a 4 per cent pay rise over two years under an agreement with district health boards (DHBs)
Consumer prices in New Zealand jumped 1.3 percent year-on-year in the fourth quarter of 2016, compared to an upwardly revised 0.4 percent rise in the previous period and above market expectations of 1.2 percent.
They got more than 2x the rate of inflation.
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May 29, 2018 8:58am
- igm
  
  Cannot be long until Standard and Poors lower NZ credit rating. See what bandit boy does then!
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:41am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Have a conversation, of course, and form a committee whose central job it will be to write a report.
    
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    May 29, 2018 3:10pm
- wreck1080
  
  I think the point is that nurses pay rises have been lower than teachers and police over the long term.
  
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  May 29, 2018 11:05am
Poppa

2 polls now showing a trend. Hopefully Peters is dust and Greens are barely hanging on to 5%

I know a lot can change but it would be great to see a straight out drag race between the two main parties for a change

National is still holding on to good numbers which is very unusual after an election loss
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May 29, 2018 9:00am
- RF
  
  Yep… interesting that the COL has only been in power for 8 months yet looks like the final stages of a 3 term Govt.
  
  Ardern is keeping Labours approval rating on a false high as I believe it will drop next month when she hands over to Peters.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:15am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Unless the media start visiting Ardern at home for baby updates.
    Wouldn’t put it past them, they’d do anything to distract away from a piss poor govt. that they did everything they could to help.
    Labour do this…distraction from incompetence.
    Look at goofy goff on TV3 this morning, 5 minutes to talk about Aucklands 10 year plan, spent about 31/2 min. talking about Dick Quax
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:17am
    - sooty
      
      Will there be a by election?
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:52am
- Happychappy
  
  When Barely Sober says the stardust is waning and John Key was in the 50’s as preferred PM then you know the coalition is in trouble and will have a hard job trying to dig themselves out of the hole of their own makings. Jacinda and her followers thought all they had to do was splash money around and blame National for their poor inept Governments inadequate performance and it would be plain sailing to the next Election. The Labour leader needs to create some magic in Housing, Health, and hope oil and gas prices improve as this is the start of a rocky road to failure.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:27am
  - sooty
    
    Will the next election be a First Past The Post vote by the public. Will we have some waka jumpers in the lead up as pollies run towards the trough?
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:39am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Did I really hear that Twitford is saying that if people don’t like living in state houses in Auckland they should move to Tuakau or Dairy Flat?
    What is this clown smoking and how long will he keep a job which is clearly far too big for him?
    
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    May 29, 2018 9:48am
    - sooty
      
      Which suburb does Twitford live in, will there be state houses in it?
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:53am
      - hullkiwi
        
        TeAtatu/Henderson. There already are. He’ll never get land cheap enough in Dairy Flat.
        
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        May 29, 2018 12:43pm
    - ex-golfer
      
      That’s not quite what he said (see my post of 9.50am).
      He said if Aucklanders don’t like “affordable housing” being built in their suburbs (such as Epsom) then those existing residents should leave (and quoted Dairy Flat or Pokeno as options).
      In other words, in his mind, state housing tenants wants are more important than existing residents rights.
      
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      May 29, 2018 11:14am
      - igm
        
        The current residents in their own homes, paying taxes for the unemployable and DPB beneficiaries, at the same time seeing their property values crash. What is the case where there are building covenants. Is Twyford going to overrule them?
        
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        May 29, 2018 11:25am
      - KevOB
        
        The people in Epsom are probably the taxpayers who are paying for the social housing.
        
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        May 29, 2018 11:36am
    - oldgolfer
      
      I’m pleased he said it, because he has just made himself hugely unpopular with many, many home owners.
      Go, Phil, you’re playing a blinder.
      
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      May 29, 2018 3:12pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Nats gain 0.5% and Greens fall 0.5%
  Nats govern alone
  leave Epsom the way it is, and now who is “Johnny no mates”?
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:20am
  - Poppa
    
    Exactly RWC. That could very easily happen actually
    
    2 Years is a hell of a long time in politics & plenty can happen in that time. By the time the next election comes the economic realities will be starting to bite Robbo on the backside
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:28am
    - stigie
      
      Disagree Poppa, sweet cheeks will have heaps of cash to throw around even if he has to borrow it !~
      
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      May 29, 2018 12:16pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        Yes, but $1billion has to go the farmers first & another $2billion unfunded to pay for the CRL over spend. Keep this up he will not have spare cash on 2020.
        
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        May 29, 2018 12:54pm
    - Paulus
      
      Little fat Doctor Doctor from Christchurch still has to finalise a few thousand EQ Claims from EQC and Southern Response.
      Estimated at hundreds of millions not budgetted.
      Where is the regular update she promised ?
      Must have missed it – but at least those in Christchurch are quiet – or have they been shut down with frivolous promises.
      
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      May 29, 2018 1:56pm
      - RF
        
        Three pies is still climbing her pastry mountain and will not be available for EQC matters until further notice.
        
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        May 29, 2018 3:41pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    The division caused by Winston’s choice of Government is quite real (if Stuff comments are a barometer). The next election will be a FPP one in all but name.
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:45am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Any green residue would go to Labour, and bad have bled all their right wing support.. Left wing is well in front (a lot of idiots voting).
  
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  May 29, 2018 1:10pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/05/hrc-recommendations-to-protect-islam-discriminate-against-maori/

Apologies if this Whaleoil story has already been posted.

This is scary stuff. If this goes through we will all need to unite and form a political party and remove our gutless complicit leaders.

I personally will not stand by and allow our free speech laws to be destroyed by quislings in NZ.

This is worth fighting for. It appears that genuine attempts to remove our freedoms have begun.
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May 29, 2018 9:08am
- Rich Prick
  
  I always suspected Muslims would trump Maori on the left’s list of heros to bastards. It is a pity though that Derby limits her views to the effect on Maori. Turning Muslims into a protected species downgrades everyone else, not just Maori.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:41am
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    They are a protected species. Take a look at your local mosque: nice cars, all working age, good taxpayer/ratepayer-funded homes, and not one of them working.
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:02am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    “Melissa Derby says its crazy legislation which she hopes won’t go through. She pointed out that it is about criminalising the ability to criticise an idea which is censorship and ” is a really dangerous path.”
    
    Our only hope: that Maori groups, gay groups and sensible women’s groups speak up for freedom of speech, for the right to criticise all ideas, including religions. Pakeha males won’t get a say in this at all.
    
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    May 29, 2018 12:11pm
  - Paulus
    
    Are not many Maori in prisons becoming Muslims like in the USA and Australia ?
    They then can get special privileges too.
    
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    May 29, 2018 1:57pm
    - Jack5
      
      We are allowing Muslims – visitors and inmates – to proselytise in our prisons.
      
      This while our outgoing dysfuctional Human Rights Commission appeals to the UN to lean on the New Zealand Government to introduce hate speech laws in NZ.
      
      Those laws would shield Muslim propagandising. You can say what you like about Christians and no-one cares.
      
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      May 29, 2018 3:47pm
- Komata
  
  Can someone please explain why it is that ‘Islam’ is so fragile that it needs state protection from everyone else?
  
  Thanks.
  
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  May 29, 2018 11:20am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Explosives are very fragile.
    
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    May 29, 2018 12:12pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Because the turn everywhere they dominate into shitholes. And moronic lefties interpret this as being the fault of western culture. They support all enemies of western civilisation because their driving desire (conscious or unconscious) is destruction of western civilization. Just as all rebels through history they have a strong evolutionary drive to overthrow existing power structure to hopefully gain status in new power structure and it makes some sense as lefties in pur society are mostly unsuccessful and unvalued beta individuals .
    
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    May 29, 2018 1:22pm
- Justitia
  
  Yes this is very alarming. The Human Rights Commission is trying to use the UN to create a crime of “blasphemy” against Islam in New Zealand. And criticism of muslim individuals or groups or organisations would also become a crime known as “disharmonious speech”. The link to the HRC submission to the UN was published on this site yesterday in the general debate. Maybe it should be permanently posted here.
  
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  May 29, 2018 11:24am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Left and right should absolutely agree on the separation of church/mosque etc and state. No blasphemy laws.
    
    Hey HRC, is sura 4:34 ‘disharmonious speech’? You know, the one that *tells* men to beat their wives.
    
    Or is it only disharmonious to criticise a religion telling men to beat their wives and have sex with those the ‘right hand owns’ (i.e. sex slaves).
    
    So the HRC is now all for uncriticised sex slavery and wife beating?
    
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    May 29, 2018 12:15pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Thankyou Justitia for the post yesterday and for the additional link Maggy provided.
    
    Alert your politicians, ( I have) ring the radio stations (I have) and do not rest until the vile quislings are held to account.
    
    These draconian laws must not be passed.
    
    MARK MY WORDS: There will be law abiding mass protest and our elected representatives will ‘feel’ the full force of (law abiding) dissent
    
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    May 29, 2018 1:07pm
    - Justitia
      
      Yes Rodney this is a serious threat to freedom of speech and our traditional freedoms. I am also actively drawing attention to the HRC’s vile proposal, which would effectively give State protection to Islam and its followers exclusively.
      
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      May 29, 2018 1:20pm
Manolo

stephieboy will be thrilled:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/2020-trump-gains-on-democrats-stephen-miller-says-polls-better-than-in-2016-win

President Trump has chipped away at big Democratic leads in a key 2020 election survey, and top aide Stephen Miller said that internal polls show the president doing even better than in 2016 when he beat Hillary Clinton.
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May 29, 2018 9:10am
BeaB

Perhaps Simon is exactly who we will need after wasteful and wasted years of Ardern, Peters, Twyford, Curran etc with Helen Clark butting in because no-one will give her a job while she waits until a new governor general is needed.
When I read about all the reviews groups being set up, packed to the gills with Lefties, I despair. With National and Bill English we were set on a steady course with some sensible welfare being put in place and we have thrown all that away.
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May 29, 2018 9:11am
Cobolt24

Natural selection. The gene pool just keeps getting better: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104269651/driver-15-and-12yearold-passenger-killed-in-crash-near-palmerston-north
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May 29, 2018 9:29am
Harkman

I pulled in to fill up last night for the first time in a couple of weeks. Wow, f__k me, the first thing I thought was “man Labour is screwing the economy.” I’d hate for oil to go any higher, gosh some Labour voters are getting screwed at present and it will only get worse.
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May 29, 2018 9:30am
gorse

BeaB, who’s this “we”’ I would change that to “they”. I didn’t vote for them. I spent an idle minute or two reading comments on WO about polls and National. What an anti group of people. I don’t see the two polls indicating failure at all. 45% want National, better than election night. If Simon Bridges is such a disaster how come this good result? National are just not getting any coverage by msm, unless it is negative. I am pleased a large group on New Zealanders can see through the col. The only surprising thing to me is the PM getting such a big percentage. She certainly has the country sucked in, helped by the msm lapdogs fawning over everything she does. When motherhood happens it is going to get a lot worse.
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May 29, 2018 9:36am
- ex-golfer
  
  Yes – National should be thrilled at being on 45% after only 6 months in opposition. It shows that most sane-thinking NZ can see through this CoL.
  
  And the hardship to be felt across NZ has not kicked in yet. Increasing fuel prices, inflationary pressure, increased interest rates (and therefore mortgage squeeze) and middle NZ will wonder what has happened to the steady approach taken by the previous Government – fluttered away to interest groups, beneficiaries and personal slush funds.
  
  When the rubber hits the road, NZrs vote on the basis of “whats in it for me”, and increased living costs across the board, including greater tax take will not go down well.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:47am
- Prince
  
  40% after wall to wall blanket adulatory coverage from an adoring media is not such a great result – 60% do not want her as PM.
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:17am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  45% includes 4% taken from NZF. National have gone backwards.
  
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  May 29, 2018 1:25pm
- Paulus
  
  Whale Oil is having a sook because only his sycophants love him and his wife who is great.
  Any partial anti comment gets you and me shut down again again.
  
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  May 29, 2018 2:01pm
  - lifesgood
    
    That moron is not worth your time. When he wasn’t pushing Judith he was pushing Winston. What an imbecile. Hope he’s happy now.
    
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    May 29, 2018 4:51pm
Hugh Pavletich

Opinion: Let the builders build – Kevin Atkinson of Generation Homes | Fairfax – Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/property/104213530/opinion-let-the-builders-build

… concluding …

… So they (the builders) buy 10 lots here, five there, depending on what deals they can get.

The net result is that in a city like Auckland, builders and subcontractors are running all over town to different jobs and they’re wasting an hour every time they do it.

To get real efficiency and to be able to build affordable houses, building companies need to be building 50 to 100 houses or more in one development.

This productivity problem is forced upon builders and we need creative solutions to address it.

We also need different types of infrastructure and new means of funding them. Councils need to consider creative, modern alternatives that reduce costs.

We are already hearing of Infrastructure Investment bonds and there are numerous examples of efficient stand-alone wastewater systems overseas that could help cut across our preoccupation with pumping waste long distances to centralised plants.

Building companies have already seen the benefits of government bodies freeing up land and easing restrictions.

Developers are responding to the market’s need for affordable housing. A few years ago, the trend was to build mostly high-value homes in new subdivisions: big houses, big sections and strict covenants.

Now we’re seeing plans for more high-density developments and smaller houses targeting the affordable housing market.

If we can attack the infrastructure problem, we can make the most of the increased supply of land and speedy building consents.

If you take out that problem, it goes a long way to addressing the big issue in New Zealand: availability of capital and increasing the supply of affordable housing.

Take that risk away, and let builders build.

Introductory Information – Bond financing of infrastructure
Left column – Performance Urban Planning
http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/

Where is the progress on this election promise
Housing Minister Phil Twyford ?

It was expected in the Budget.
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NEW ZEALAND: Salvation Army questions ability of government departments to handle the flagship house building plan; seeks establishment of group to deliver houses ‘quickly and at affordable cost’ | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93961/salvation-army-questions-ability-government-departments-handle-flagship-house
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… Earlier article … lessons from Greater Christchurch (the ‘great’ is outside the Christchurch Council area … in the smaller adjoining Counties of Waimakariri and Selwyn) …

Lincoln (South Christchurch): From mill town to boom town … John McCrone … The Press
… h/t GF …

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103331085/lincoln-from-mill-town-to-boom-town
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John Armstrong: Labour’s record so far on affordable housing builds is pathetic … John Armstrong OPINION … TVNZ

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/john-armstrong-labours-record-so-far-affordable-housing-builds-pathetic
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NEW ZEALAND: There is nothing ‘affordable’ about Kiwibuild Housing Minister Twyford

By Hugh Pavletich

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/05/garner_says_kiwibuild_a_hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-2209572
… with extensive further posts on thread …
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UPDATE – New (IPSOS) survey reveals housing, poverty and healthcare most concern New Zealanders – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12047092
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May 29, 2018 9:48am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Come on team, only 6 reports and he’s gone.
  
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  May 29, 2018 9:56am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Why do you detest freedom of speech Captain Mainwaring ?
    
    After near 14 years of battling on these housing issues … I have won … you have lost.
    
    More importantly … the young and the disadvantaged are THE BIG WINNERS now !
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:01am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Dirty quisling protectionist.
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:03am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Moderator … Did me out of moderation please !
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:06am
ex-golfer

Labour-infested Stuff closed down comments on this story pretty quickly. Clearly it did not suit their narrative:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104193297/phil-twyford-rules-out-statesponsored-gentrification-in-auckland

When is the PM going to be asked about this edict from Twyford? How much longer can he survive?
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May 29, 2018 9:50am
- alloytoo
  
  What is Phil going to do when Businesses start abandoning the CBD because their staff refuse to work there.
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:00am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    or even moving to Hamilton
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:22am
  - Paulus
    
    They already are doing that in Christchurch – they are not returning – even Government Departments – the staff will not go as they are content in their new offices and surroundings.
    
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    May 29, 2018 2:03pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Aucklanders who don’t want state or affordable housing nearby should leave the city, Housing Minister Phil Twyford says.
  
  So he is going to flood the place with “affordable” neighbours. That’ll go down well. Nail down your valuables Auckland.
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:18am
- Poppa
  
  Twyford is a complete moron. It must be a complete embarrassment for Cindy
  
  Of course he is a senior minister so can’t be spanked by the boss as there is nobody to take over
  
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  May 29, 2018 1:02pm
stephieboy

Hugh Pavletich,

Good one! Don’t be deterred by alt-right / far right lunacy and ignoramuses on the housing affordability issue.
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May 29, 2018 9:51am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Well done team, Hugh’s gone already so sillyboy’s whistling in the dark.
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:14am
  - rangitoto
    
    He tried a sneaky late afternoon post yesterday.
    
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    May 29, 2018 10:34am
- AgentBallSack
  
  It must be almost time to start fucking your shit up too, you stupid little girl.
  Feel like going the way of Penny and Hugh do you?
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:34am
- Manolo
  
  To be publicly endorsed by stephieboy is a true kiss of death. 🙂
  
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  May 29, 2018 11:06am
backster

Let em out Little’s first strike https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/104287584/new-zealands-first-serial-killer-hayden-poulter-is-to-be-released-on-parole
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May 29, 2018 11:05am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Looking forward to the interview with the angry man when this bastard strikes again.
  
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  May 29, 2018 11:13am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Gosh, I wonder what the psychologist means when he states
  Mr Poulter exhibits “flexibility of thought”
  
  Is “flexibility of thought” good or bad?
  
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  May 29, 2018 11:31am
  - cmm
    
    “Fucking psycho” probably doesn’t sound professional.
    
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    May 29, 2018 12:05pm
- RF
  
  Little is an evil POS.
  
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  May 29, 2018 11:45am
  - Longknives
    
    Settle down RF.
    Jacinda and Andrew have both stated we should be prepared to accept some ‘Collateral Damage’ with Labour’s relaxation on crime.
    It’s for the ‘Greater Good’ apparently…
    
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    May 29, 2018 11:59am
- cmm
  
  One lining up for a career
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/manukau-courier/104286612/police-caught-on-video-punching-13yearold–was–it-justified
  
  “This is my 13-year-old son riding his bike in Highland Park, and look what the New Zealand police do to him.”
  
  Nice boy, just riding his bike…. yeah right mate!
  
  “what is New Zealand coming to?” You want a place where scrotes like you can raise scotes like him and they just get away with terrorizing society?
  
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  May 29, 2018 11:45am
  - Longknives
    
    Big kid for 13!
    
    And I wish these spotty young Journos would fact check occasionally- Has anyone in New Zealand History EVER been arrested for simply not wearing a bike helmet?
    The Dad is full of shit..
    
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    May 29, 2018 12:02pm
  - stinkypete
    
    looked like a pretty standard bicycle pursuit and arrest,, the punch was to get his L arm for the cuffs also pretty standard
    poor little lamb, cant believe they print this excrement
    
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    May 29, 2018 12:20pm
  - Jack5
    
    The use of the words “New Zealand police” is a clue.
    Why would you want to include “New Zealand”?
    
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    May 29, 2018 3:41pm
- Piniwi
  
  But backster the parole conditions are the funniest part of that story especially considering the long period he has had without such “benefits” in life.
  
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  May 29, 2018 7:03pm
cmm

Sad that Tara Brown girl got killed. But, FFS girlie, how was it a brilliant idea to shack up with a gang enforcer?

Don’t people understand the concept of consequences any more? Don’t friends and parents warn young people to stay away from criminals?

Both brothers have converted to Islam while behind bars. Now if that doesn’t chill you nothing will.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12060471
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May 29, 2018 11:53am
- BananaLlama
  
  I wouldn’t cry if he got a bullet in his spine.
  
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  May 29, 2018 12:00pm
- kevn
  
  @cmm… and they will probably be deported back to NZ.
  Scum x 2
  
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  May 29, 2018 2:57pm
holysheet

A flat-chested young lady goes to Dr. Smith for advice about enlarging her breasts. He tells her, “Every day when you get out of the shower, rub the tip of your breasts and say, “Scooby dooby doobies. I want bigger boobies.” She did this every day faithfully and after several months, it worked! She grew great boobs! One morning she was running late and she was on the bus when she realized she had forgotten her morning ritual. At this point she loved her new boobs and didn’t want to lose them, so right in the middle of the bus–“Scooby dooby doobies. I want bigger boobies.” A guy sitting nearby asked her, “Do you go to Dr. Smith by any chance?” “Why, yes, I do. How did you know?” “Hickory dickory dock.”
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May 29, 2018 12:29pm
cha

On this day in 1453, with the help of Orban’s cannons, the Ottoman empire breached the walls of Constantinople. More than 4,000 Byzantines and their allies were killed and another 30,000 enslaved. Constantine XI Palaiologos, last Byzantine Emperor, died in the battle.

Moral of the story, if a gun Hungarian cannon maker offers to arm you, take the offer or they’ll do what Orban did, and arm the enemy.
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May 29, 2018 12:39pm
Poppa

So it is apparently safe to live in a house which has had “P” smoked in it, so says the Govt science adviser.

I will watch with interest to see what happens now. Will the Govt change the guidelines?

It has certainly cost & is costing plenty to landlords & insurers.
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May 29, 2018 12:58pm
- cmm
  
  Extra dosh for single mothers that smoke P with their live in boyfriends.
  
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  May 29, 2018 1:23pm
- backster
  
  But wasn’t the Main Stream Media responsible for stirring up the hysteria in the first place,parading victims claiming all sorts of ailments while livng in such places. What was Gluckman doing for eight years under Key but not raisng doubts. Why would Housing Corp have a $100million policy without doing any research.
  
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  May 29, 2018 3:40pm
- Piniwi
  
  Well Poppa few would disagree with erring on the side of safety but we might expect he will work to moving the goal posts on this one. Sadly only time will tell if the latest “expert” opinion is correct though they can not replicate the effects of extended exposure to the lowest levels not causing health issues. Even getting to fill the 240 homes will not do much to reduce the rapidly growing waiting list.
  
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  May 29, 2018 7:13pm
Jack5

Worker at Automobile Association – a person with an Indian surname – charged with taking thousands of dollars in bribes for driving licences.

Might be time for a clean-out of the AA, once a rock-solid old NZ organisation.

Money taken – up to $500 for a driving licence and up to $2500 for a truck driving licence – was passed on to corrupt instructors.

What is the AA up to these days, any way? Once it was a champion of motorists v. oil companies over fuel prices, but today it’s running its own fuel-discount scheme.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/358442/former-aa-worker-took-more-than-56k-in-bribes-for-licenses
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May 29, 2018 2:23pm
- sooty
  
  Open it up to competition. It’s a monopoly and goverment aidded.
  
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  May 29, 2018 3:06pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Not so sooty it is already available from appointed agents to issue licences but hardly ever a prospect for any sort of competition apart from location convenience.
    
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    May 29, 2018 7:18pm
  - Que Sera Sera
    
    You are talking crap there Sooty.
    
    There is competition from many places for road side break downs.
    Some of the vehicle franchise offer that service,
    The State Insurance, or whatever they are these days offer the same.
    It is certainly not a monopoly.
    And I don’t know where you get the government aided bit from ?
    
    I have been a member for 53 years and will continue as long as I drive a vehicle..
    They offer a bloody great service in my view.
    
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    May 29, 2018 8:54pm
UpandComer

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10949

She is getting the absolutely inevitable results of not just what she wanted, but what she demanded. All the people that might have stood up for her she endured were fired, at her bidding.
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May 29, 2018 2:34pm
Odakyu-sen

Shock and awe!

A sensible article from the Herald.
“Feral’ drivers need to stop for police, it’s their fault when they die”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12060658
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May 29, 2018 2:37pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Did anyone hear Susie Ferguson’s inquisition of the National Manager for Road Policing this morning about the behaviour of teenagers?
  
  Why on earth are the cops subjected to all this quizzing?
  
  Why not enquire from the 12 year-old’s school whether they had notified the Truancy officer and Care Giver/Parent that the child was not at school.
  
  Why not enquire from the Corrections/Justice folk who are meant to enforce bail conditions, how this young man had managed to break his bail conditions and steal a car?
  
  Why not enquire from the Judge who granted this dead young man bail, whether that was really a good decision, in retrospect?
  
  Why is it always the Cops that are made out to be the bad guys in these traffic crashes?
  
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018646928/there-is-no-silver-bullet-police-defend-pursuit-policy
  
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  May 29, 2018 3:27pm
  - cmm
    
    And why ask the shithead’s parents why they let their little scrote run wild?
    
    And why not interview the girl’s parents and ask them why they let their 12 year old run wild with an out of control 15 yearold?
    
    Not giving kids the guidance they need is child abuse.
    
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    May 29, 2018 4:01pm
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      Wrong time to ask parents/caregivers those questions.
      
      Perhaps the Coroner will enquire.
      Perhaps the MSM will report back to us (but I doubt it)
      
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      May 29, 2018 4:19pm
    - MH
      
      The parents of the boy did appear on TV and stated that the cops were just doing their job and had no truck against them, they seemed reasonable and admitted their son was showing signs of teenage rebellion and had tried their best..
      
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      May 30, 2018 11:41am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Well said Maggy, What the hell is a 12 Year old doing with criminals stealing cars?
    
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    May 29, 2018 8:49pm
- Longknives
  
  I strongly disagree with the bit at the end-
  
  “Was this chase necessary?… in my opinion, it was not. The boy was known to police. His whereabouts were known.”…”He was clocked. He was identified. And then he was dead”
  
  How in the hell can Police ‘Identify’ a driver who is speeding away from them? *And by that I mean ‘identify’ to an evidential standard??
  
  Criminals aren’t the most honest of people-
  “Nah it wasn’t me Officer it was my mate G who borrowed the car..”
  “Nah Bro I don’t know his real name- I just know him as G from down the skate park”
  Or-
  “Bro we just reported that car stolen…I think it’s the one that’s been burnt out down the road”
  
  Sadly it’s not so simple as writing down the Rego and popping round the next day..
  
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  May 29, 2018 3:35pm
  - cmm
    
    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
    
    If they’d left an out of control unlicensed kid continue driving around like a prat, bad shit was going to happen.
    
    That he wrapped a car around a pole is the best outcome for society.
    
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    May 29, 2018 4:03pm
    - MCos
      
      The best outcome for society would’ve been him stopping, admitting he was wrong & becoming a model citizen for the rest of his life like the rest of us.
      
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      May 29, 2018 6:58pm
    - Piniwi
      
      True cmm but watching the short video it seems the Police pursuit was what might be described as passive rather than a hot pursuit. Then he rounded a corner and managed to crash into a tree on a perfectly straight road as he obviously lost control. Bet the owners of the hotted up Subaru are as mad all hell he chose their car.
      
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      May 29, 2018 7:26pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      and he won’t be doing it again, ever….
      
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      May 29, 2018 8:47pm
sooty

Is Twitford rewriting the meth rules for housing, because he’s having trouble with building enough houses. I hear there is a lot of empty state houses with meth problems and they spend $30mil a year on it.
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May 29, 2018 3:16pm
- Harkman
  
  Yes I just got messaged this. Labour isn’t going to solve the state housing problem through volume, so they’re going to reclassify unsafe places to solve it. “Unsafe what unsafe,” soon mould will be good for you. But in 20 years the people in these places will win compensation for harm to their health from living in such conditions.
  
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  May 29, 2018 3:34pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh goody, lots more folks in the neighbourhood.
  I’d been wondering how much longer all the houses down the road were going to stay empty.
  
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  May 29, 2018 5:35pm
- MCos
  
  I watched the news tonight.
  In the red corner.
  The scientist who says that after reading all the available literature he found there’s been an overreaction to meth contamination. Unless the stuff was manufactured in the house it’s highly unlikely to have caused any sort of problem.
  In the blue corner.
  A bloke who makes a buck decontaminating any traceable particle of meth by stripping the entire house. Naturally he claimed the scientist didn’t know what he was waffling about.
  
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  May 29, 2018 7:17pm
oldgolfer

Jesus, now the vicar is reviewing the way health boards are funded. Or rather, he has asked Heather Simpson to do it.
Is there anything these muppets don’t plan to review, investigate or alter in the first year.
They are like locked-out drunks when the doors are opened – in for everything – now – and never mind the consequences.
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May 29, 2018 3:43pm
- Piniwi
  
  But oldgolfer it is quite interesting to not the timeline of this new review which is the whole 9 yards of health and not just DHBs. Final findings will be early 2020 which places the outcome very conveniently to be some sort of election platform. Remembering how they promised substantial funding increases for health before the election but the Fudget barely marked time for that worn out excuse. Nine years of neglect by the previous Government. Hard to swallow when we note the massive amounts misdirected to pockets, pride and everything but front line medical services.
  
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  May 29, 2018 7:35pm
cmm

Transgender woman is being discriminated against by women only gym.

Come on, you’re not a woman. You’re a dude in a dress.
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May 29, 2018 4:08pm
- sooty
  
  Nuts in a frock!
  
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  May 29, 2018 4:51pm
- Longknives
  
  If I ‘identify’ as a Woman can I go to a Woman only Gym??
  
  *I’ve seen on Pornhub what happens at those places…
  
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  May 29, 2018 6:19pm
nasska

Apart from Kiwis, rugby & fat arsed women; NZ is probably best recognised as the habitat of the most pretentious food & wine writers who have ever gotten half pissed & tried to string a few sentences together.

There’s a short news item in today’s Northern Advocate which informs us of a local brewery enjoying a win in a beer & cider awards competition. Apparently this American (or hoppy) porter is “well balanced” which I guess is a good thing to have in a beer since some of them tip over easily. But the bullshit doesn’t stop there:

…..”It offers milk chocolate & coffee notes on the palate that give way to a pine & cut grass hop character that integrates perfectly to create a long, silky smooth flavour slide from sweet to gently bitter, with no detours or sharp edges, interfering with the journey”…..

Spare my days! I’ve been known to sling the odd line of bullshit myself from time to time but the turkey who composed this piece of wankery takes the biscuit!
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May 29, 2018 4:22pm
- Longknives
  
  Ha Ha We call them ‘Craft Beer Wankers’ in my circles Nasska!
  
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  May 29, 2018 6:18pm
- Piniwi
  
  But nasska it is even more hilarious in the USA where they take pride in their big fluffy headed foam topped brews. It naturally requires some additive to get it “right” when most regular beer drinkers know it as a sign of a piss poor piss pourer. Likewise they note that anybody who’s glass is refilled has no head at all but a flat top has gut trouble.
  
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  May 29, 2018 7:43pm
EAD_TWO

There is a poster on here called “classical liberal”, who every day, without fail, pops up here to correct someone and remind us all “that race does no matter, ideology does and we shouldn’t judge someone by their skin pigmentation”.

A lofty sentiment indeed, but after yet another weekend of shocking violence and chaos in Melbourne, I won’t be walking up to a pack of Blacks in Federation Square to enquire about what God they believe in❗
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May 29, 2018 4:41pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  The Melbourne Free Tommy march, peaceful, was organised by the Liberty Alliance and featured as a main speaker Avi Yemini, a Jew.
  
  You constantly make anti-semitic statements here, so find out more about the work Avi is doing to help protect Australia.
  
  Why would you be scared of a ‘pack of blacks’ if you didn’t fear their ideology was not peaceful?
  
  How do you feel about the palest white Eastern European islamists? Happy because they are the right colour?
  
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  May 29, 2018 7:10pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    ??????
    
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    May 29, 2018 8:07pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Eadlechen, I don’t know what those faces mean. Please answer my questions in proper English, as you would no doubt require of immigrants.
      
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      May 30, 2018 12:36pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Forced marriage is modern-day slavery and child abuse.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/may/28/beatings-rape-non-stop-work-uk-women-enslaved-forced-marriages

UK waking up to the problem in their midst.
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May 29, 2018 4:57pm
- nasska
  
  From Maggy’s link:
  
  …..”Disclosing her secret more than a decade later to a call handler at a forced marriage charity, she confided that on her wedding night, her “husband” cut her open with a knife so he could consummate their marriage”……
  
  Don’t worry about the blood……forget the kid’s pain. Feel the diversity!
  
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  May 29, 2018 5:06pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    Feel the diversity!
    
    Stephieboy (in one of his many comments today that have been downticked into oblivion): “Three cheers for the Diversity dividend!”.
    
    You’ve previously mentioned, Nasska, that Stephieboy has a part-time job as a Bunnings front-of-store greeter (in between his time at St Albans and St Lukes – and Kiwiblog). Perhaps he could do some market research:
    
    “Hello customer! It is I, Stephieboy, and I thank Allah that you’ve come to our store. Now, did you experience any genital mutilation in your childhood days? You did? How would you rate the experience on a scale of 1 to 10? Would you recommend this experience to others? Thanks for your time – and, once again, welcome to Bunnings!”
    
    🙂
    
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    May 29, 2018 5:21pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      You forgot to add local lurker at the Yoga Pantry beneath St Albans.
      
      If you had seen this guys facebook profile you would swear that when Ralph was born, he narrowly avoided Down’s Syndrome. Either that, or he is the product of Brother/Sister relations.
      
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      May 29, 2018 5:31pm
    - nasska
      
      It’s Ramadan! The sick bastard’s probably fasting in sympathy with his Muslim mates & getting really shitty from thirst & hunger.
      
      There’ll be some poorly greeted hardware customers this month. 🙂
      
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      May 29, 2018 5:36pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        There’ll be some poorly greeted hardware customers this month.
        
        He probably knows the aisle number for FGM tools off by heart. “Aisle 7 – halfway down on the left!”
        
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        May 29, 2018 5:38pm
      - nasska
        
        “Stanley knives on special & you’ll find the secateurs with the garden hardware.”
        
        “May the peace & mercy of the Prophet be with you. Happy Ramadan.” 🙂
        
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        May 29, 2018 5:50pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/05/the-information-that-the-british-media-are-prohibited-from-publishing/#more-385402

“The information that the British media are prohibited from publishing
Tommy Robinson is in prison and there is a court-ordered publication ban over the circumstances of his imprisonment. That gag order only applies to the UK though so Rebel Media who Tommy used to report for are able to cover the story because they are based in Canada.

Here is the information that the British media are prohibited from publishing: quote.

On Friday, Tommy was reporting from outside the court house in Leeds, where an accused Muslim rape gang was on trial for repeatedly raping British girls as young as eleven years old. Tommy was broadcasting on Facebook, from his cell phone.

Tommy was very careful:

He did not set foot on the court precinct.
He did not call the men “rapists”, but rather called them “accused rapists”.
In no way did he interfere with the trial, which was on its final day.
When Tommy mentioned the names of the accused rapists, he was reading from a BBC website — so the names were clearly public information, on the state broadcaster.
Tommy did nothing wrong.
But suddenly, seven police officers swarmed Tommy and threw him in the back of a police van. You can watch that shocking footage here:

They said he was causing a disturbance, which is absurd — he was by himself on the street, with only a cameraman and a friend.

But it got worse. Much worse.

Within hours, Tommy was summoned before the judge. Tommy’s long-time lawyer was not informed of this. Rather, the court appointed a lawyer who didn’t know Tommy and wasn’t an expert in the specialized law of contempt of court.

In a matter of minutes, Tommy was sent to prison — with a 13-month sentence. He is now in HM Prison Hull, a brutal facility near Leeds.

A 13-month prison sentence for Tommy is tantamount to a death sentence — every Muslim criminal in prison will be trying to murder him. They’ve tried before.

The only alternative is for Tommy to request to be put into solitary confinement — but no-one can live that way, locked up without any human contact for 23 hours a day. Not for a year straight.

Tommy worked for us at The Rebel until this spring — we got him started in journalism, and we parted ways amicably when Tommy went independent.

And we still support him.

The day he was arrested, I spoke with Tommy’s wife and his lawyer, and offered to help in any way.

Last year, when Tommy worked for us, he was arrested outside of the court in Canterbury. Back then, we crowdfunded a top-notch legal team, and we were able to keep Tommy out of prison.

I offered to help again, and Tommy’s family and lawyer were grateful, but they have asked that we hold off doing anything (including crowdfunding) until they can have a proper conversation with Tommy.

Obviously we will respect the wishes of Tommy’s family and lawyer.

But there is something else very important that we can do, on our own: we can go to court to have the gag order lifted from the media.

The basic facts […] what Tommy was doing and what he didn’t do; the shocking speed with which he was imprisoned; the fact that his own lawyer was not notified; the fact that Tommy has not had a proper chance to meet with his lawyer — are banned in the UK.

Not just the underlying facts of the rape gang trial — but the whole incident involving Tommy.

The judge who sent Tommy to jail, made it illegal to report that he sent Tommy to jail.

Why?

Why did the judge keep his justice secret?

Shouldn’t the British people be able to learn the facts, and decide for themselves?

Why can people in Canada and the U.S. and Australia and Europe read all the facts — but not British citizens?

So we’re going to court, to apply to have this gag order lifted.

The Rebel is based in Canada, but we also have a registered UK corporation, with more than 100,000 UK customers, and a UK staff. So our UK company has legal standing to go to court on behalf of the British people.

We have hired an outstanding lawyer who has worked with Tommy before — Daniel Berke, the lawyer who took the case of Chelsey Wright, the girl from Sunderland who suffered so brutally at the hands of a predator.

I have spoken with Daniel, and he believes this is an important case, and he is already working on the emergency application.

It’s shocking that it falls to us — a small, independent, Internet-based news company — to fight for freedom of the press and open courts in the United Kingdom.

Where is the BBC, or Sky, or any of the tabloids that so love to skewer Tommy when it suits them?

Where are the organizations like Amnesty International or Reporters Without Borders, coming to the aid of a citizen journalist who was arrested and sentenced faster than in any dictatorship?

I guess it falls to us.

Because Tommy’s legal case isn’t just about him. It’s about all of us — and our freedom to have honest, public conversations about the threat of mass Muslim migration, gang rapes, and the Islamification of the west.

[…] Right now, Tommy’s family and lawyer are still huddling and coming up with a strategy. Let us give them their space. But in the meantime, let’s go to court to lift the publication ban on this horrific story.

I truly believe that if the British people learned what happened to Tommy Robinson on Friday, it would awaken within them the instincts of freedom and the rule of law that has been the British heritage since the Magna Carta.[…]

Tommy did his part. The biggest part — and he paid the biggest price.

I think this one lawsuit is my part.[…]

Yours truly,

Ezra Levant
President, The Rebel Media
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May 29, 2018 5:19pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  I apologise in advance if the host of this site is unhappy with links to another blog. However, as he has not reported on recent events and Whaleoil has, I feel compelled to provide NZ updates on this platform. I trust the host of this site understands and appreciates the gravity of recent events in the UK, while preferring to report on events closer to home. Rodney.
  
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  May 29, 2018 5:28pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  I will continue with a post from my Facebook. This is public and I am just the messenger:
  https://metro.co.uk/2017/04/13/29-people-in-court-over-170-charges-of-sexual-exploitation-of-18-children-6571793/
  
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  May 29, 2018 6:15pm
- GoVege
  
  Has Tommy advocated violence against Muslims?
  That should be the only reason Amnesty International and other groups wouldn’t support him.
  
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  May 29, 2018 10:14pm
- stephieboy
  
  Rodney Randell, all altright and far right hocus pocus,
  
  Flakey Tommy Robinson of three different aliases was released from Prison on 1st August based on a Court of Appeal judgement who bent over backwards to be fair to him and grant him the best that there is British Justice,
  
  https://www.ft.com/content/2c356070-9571-11e8-b747-fb1e803ee64e
  
  The Martyr’s complex,
  
  https://lonerwolf.com/martyr-complex-symptoms/
  
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  December 30, 2018 7:43pm
cha

Who to support, the Muslim or the tranny…..

A female Muslim employee of a salon refused to wax the genitals of a man, because her religion prohibits her not to physically touch the private area of a male outside her family. I say “male,” because I’m using the traditional sense of the word… meaning the person has a penis. He is under the impression that he’s a female, because he identifies as such.

Yet, there are certain biological realities that this Muslim employee recognizes which he apparently does not. Powerline reports:

Earlier this month, a male-to-female transgender filed a $50,000 human rights complaint after a Muslim woman refused to perform a Brazilian wax on his genitals. …

“She never once asked for a leg wax [from] us,” Max Wax manager, president and CEO Jason Carruthers told PJ Media. “She said, ‘Women have penises and women have balls and if your staff is not comfortable they can look for another job.’”

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markmeckler/2018/05/transgender-files-50000-complaint-because-muslim-woman-refuses-to-wax-genitals/
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May 29, 2018 5:28pm
- cmm
  
  Perhaps they should just tell “her” to self-identify as a woman who had her legs waxed.
  
  After all, hairs are smaller than a penis. If you can ignore your penis and say you’re a woman, then you can ignore the hair and say you’ve been waxed.
  
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  May 29, 2018 6:01pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  “male-to-female transgender filed a $50,000 human rights complaint after a Muslim woman refused to perform a Brazilian wax on his genitals. ”
  
  Brilliant! The HRC idiots need to have their noses rubbed in the problems they are causing by taking their responsibilities way beyond basic human rights and into so much ‘diversity’ that eventually everyone will be able to file complaints against everyone else for some imagined HR breach!
  
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  May 29, 2018 7:28pm
logan0312

The thing that concerns me most about the whole Tommy Robinson thing (apart from his personal welfare,) is what it says about our societies and what we are becoming. Are we acting in a way that preserves the common good, or increasingly are the lower (under-) class simply seen as objects to be policed for the sake of our ‘betters’.

Some online commentators have said we are nations of laws. In a sense this is true, but it is not in my view the whole picture. It is right here that we live in a society of laws, and no one should be exempt from their application. BUT we must not lose sight of the underlying purpose of the law, which is to bring forth justice and righteousness. If the Law does not do this it becomes simply another tool of oppression that is used to enslave and subjugate a free people.

The danger here is that if people do not truly believe that the State is motivated to protect them and promote their safety and well-being they will no longer see a valid reason to uphold the State. Then comes violence; whether a revolution or a repeat of troubles like Northern Ireland witnessed. And I think the case can be made by many that in the UK’s inner cities that they no longer have any foundational belief that the ‘System’ is there for their welfare.

Our political masters need to think carefully about this if the peace is to be preserved. And don’t take what I say as a threat. Far from it. I just think history warns us that this is the case.
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May 29, 2018 5:29pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  It’s not just a matter of that justice needs to be done.
  More importantly, justice must be seen to be done.
  
  The English authorities are not allowing justice to be seen to be done.
  
  (If it is being done at all…)
  
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  May 29, 2018 6:01pm
  - nasska
    
    The clarity & the merit of the justice are two different items that need to be considered separately. ie
    
    1) The fact that such draconian suppression could be put into place in total blackout secrecy is a travesty of the Western justice system.
    
    2) Tommy Robinson’s treatment by the police & his sentence via the judiciary is beyond all reason or proportion. He was one man making guarded comments to a cellphone outside a Courthouse. He was engaged in much needed political protest over a worrying issue. He was not a threat.
    
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    May 29, 2018 6:20pm
- GoVege
  
  I’m amazed they haven’t dragged Boris Johnson to court for insulting Erdogan.
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:55pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

From Nelson, Ruth Carr and Minuit with Aotearoa. Interesting video of kiwiana too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wKhrEFzLfM
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May 29, 2018 5:43pm
- Longknives
  
  Thank Christ NZ Music Month will end soon….
  
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  May 29, 2018 6:15pm
VicParking

I’m left handed and once was young. Does that mean I’m Gay. Stephie do you want to hookup.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/dec/01/homosexuality-genetics-usa
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May 29, 2018 6:11pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  and once was young
  Sometimes it seems better to let the modern world pass you by…
  
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  May 29, 2018 6:28pm
ex-golfer

So nurses are upset and distraught that details of the latest offer have been made public.
Is this because they don’t want the public to know just how much an appropriately qualified and registered nurse could actually earn with the new offer – around $93,000.
Might they be concerned about losing support from Joe-Public if they are considered “rich pricks”?
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May 29, 2018 6:43pm
Rodney Randall

Again tonite on TV1 news, we are delivered footage of an illegal scaling a building to ‘save’ a child.

This illegal is now to be worshipped as a poster child for illegals at least that is the propaganda. A fool can see through this.

Did anyone notice the two people standing in arms reach of said child on the same level??

With the speed of Robinson’s arrest said illegal is meeting with the president, offered a job with the Fire Brigade and offered medals and residency. The MSM are gagging.
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May 29, 2018 6:45pm
- nasska
  
  The socialists insult our intelligence.
  
  You’d think they could at least get the choreography & stage management right!
  
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  May 29, 2018 6:50pm
- Longknives
  
  Like I said yesterday- The whole thing is a work. (Pro Wrestling term)
  So many questions-
  
  Why didn’t the guy holding the child just scoop it up?
  How did the guy know how to scale the building perfectly with out any practice or rehearsal?
  How come there was a person standing filming? And not even trying to help?? (If the child was in danger wouldn’t your instinct be to rush over and try to catch or find something to catch it in?…)
  How does Macron know the guy is even suitable for the Fire Service? (Surely they have training/ standards/qualifications etc??)
  
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  May 29, 2018 7:33pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Biggest load of Bullshit I have seen in a while topped off by Simon Dallow and Mellissa’s supercilious, adorning grins.
    
    Fucking poodles both of them
    
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    May 29, 2018 7:42pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Indeed Longknives.
    
    They insult our intelligence trying to pass off these staged events as news.
    
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    May 29, 2018 8:04pm
  - RF
    
    The way I saw it just as the rescuer reached the top balcony the kid was safely secured by the guy just behind the railing. The “hero” pulled the kid out of the other guys arms.
    
    Hollywood….
    
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    May 29, 2018 8:07pm
    - GoVege
      
      Are you guys completely NUTS?
      The guy next door couldn’t reach the kid coz there was a barrier there.
      Scores of people could have filmed the rescue on their phones.
      A young guy risks his life in an amazing feat of bravery and athleticism and you just can’t give credit where it’s obviously DUE!
      
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      May 29, 2018 8:40pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        Hahaha.
        
        Ever heard of human chain?
        
        Propaganda pure and simple
        
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        May 29, 2018 9:03pm
      - RF
        
        Play the video in slow motion. You might just learn something……
        
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        May 29, 2018 9:17pm
      - GoVege
        
        So a 4 year old’s life was put at risk for “propaganda” purposes?
        Yeah right.
        
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        May 29, 2018 10:07pm
    - sam green
      
      You people really are a bunch of cunts.
      
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      May 29, 2018 10:36pm
- stephieboy
  
  Rodney Randell,
  
  ” The MSM are gagging.”
  
  Really?
  
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  December 30, 2018 7:47pm
Rodney Randall

Nasska: Precisely.
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May 29, 2018 6:59pm
nasska

During Ramadan:

……” Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset for approximately 30 days – and doing so is one of the five pillars of Islam”…..

YET

….”The daylight in Iceland is from mid-May to mid-August and the sun only sets for around 3 hours per day, and there is effectively light for the whole 24-hour period. “……

The possibility of a mass Muslim settlement in Reykjavik seems very promising! 🙂
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May 29, 2018 7:23pm
- Longknives
  
  Mate I’ve been to Reykjavik- Those lovely folk don’t deserve that!
  
  Might I suggest Campbell or Auckland Island as an alternate venue for all those lovely ‘Peaceful’ Muslims?..
  
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  May 29, 2018 7:27pm
  - Longknives
    
    I hear the massive uninhabited chunks of Greenland are quite nice this time of year also…
    
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    May 29, 2018 7:28pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Muslim population of Iceland about 0.2%.
  The Reykjavik mosque was due to be replaced a few years back and a competition was held for a new design.
  Saudia Arabia donated US $1M for the new Mosque….but something went awry
  https://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/politics_and_society/2016/01/31/muslims_in_iceland_protest_where_is_the_money_for_o/
  
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  May 29, 2018 7:53pm
- Manolo
  
  You can be sure that those 7th century primitives will find a way to bypass that.
  
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  December 30, 2018 8:11pm
cha

An Uber fuck up.

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Emergency braking was instead entrusted to the vehicle operator, though no system was in place to alert the operator of the computer’s conclusion. Previously released footage showed that the operator had been looking down for an extended period before the crash occurred, and the NTSB report will draw more attention to the flaws in models that require humans to monitor computer behavior for hours on end.

https://slate.com/technology/2018/05/uber-car-in-fatal-arizona-crash-perceived-pedestrian-1-3-seconds-before-impact.html
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May 29, 2018 7:30pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/05/ezra-levant-tommy-robinson-in-prison/7

VIDEO from Ezra.
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May 29, 2018 7:35pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Rodney – what’s your thoughts on the equally as appalling miscarriages of justice in Britain for Jeremy Bedford Turner & Alison Chabloz?
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:06pm
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    EAD: I’m not intimately familiar with the cases, however I know where you are going with this. If you want to write a song about a concentration camp being a themepark you should be able to without being chucked in the clink. If you are going to incite immediate violence to a particular group then the laws are already in place to deal with that.
    
    Sunlight is the greatest disinfectant. I prefer ALL speech to be out in the open.
    Let the public make up their minds.
    
    No special protection for Jews, Muslims, Trannies etc.
    
    It is now understood that a request has been made by the NZHRC to the UNHCR seeking approval to clamp down on our free speech laws.
    
    Be Afraid.
    
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    May 29, 2018 8:56pm
Steve (North Shore)

Late but never mind. Anti Americans can Foxtrot Oscar,
https://www.tmn.today/2018/05/meaning-taps-funeral-song/
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May 29, 2018 7:37pm
RF

The worse kept secret.

H2 is confirmed to be on Arderns payroll and going to re invent the Health system.
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May 29, 2018 8:12pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Oh, fuck me gently.
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:30pm
rightoverlabour

I feel for the parents of the 12 Year old girl who was killed in the crash. I feel nothing for the driver, one less criminal for us to have to deal with. I have no time for the way this is reported as a Police Pursuit Death. It was a criminal fleeing arrest. Stupid Little Girl made this statement: On Tuesday, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said there had been changes recently for police-chase protocols, “but I think it is high time we took another look at these again”. How about its high time criminals stopped trying to flee from the police.
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May 29, 2018 8:36pm
- GoVege
  
  Thankfully the family didn’t blame the police this time.
  I feel for the family, but they seem to believe that you just can’t control your own kids “these days”.
  They are mistaken.
  If you don’t know where your 12 year old or even 15 year old is 99% of the time, then you’re doing something wrong.
  
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  May 29, 2018 8:49pm
Rodney Randall

Imam Tawhidi TWITTER
@Imamofpeace
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Never forget this:

Muslim Imam sexually abused an 11 year old. He was spared jail because HIS wife doesn’t speak English.

It seems as though (some of) the judges in the UK look for any excuse just to free a rapist back into society
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May 29, 2018 8:38pm
Fletch

Anyone seen the “art” (and I use the term very loosely) that Jacinda put forward to a charity auction? I guess the only thing that can be said is that it wasn’t stolen, unlike Helen’s.

https://www.facebook.com/Breakfaston1/videos/10156290926107719/
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May 29, 2018 8:41pm
Monique Watson

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104263584/its-time-to-be-more-open-about-what-nz-troops-are-doing-in-iraq

Fucking hell. Reporter needs to be wised up. It’s war. Soldiers fucking die.

The article is word salad garbage but if anyone can read any deeper meaning can you please do come hither and inform me.
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May 29, 2018 10:08pm
- stephieboy
  
  Monique Watson, becoming more proficient at rubbing the proverbial salt to the wound!
  
  Nasty!
  
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  December 30, 2018 7:51pm
starboard

White filthy scum this time, 2 wet bus tickets comin your way, assholes.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/102874333/drunken-arrogant-violent-teens-acted-appallingly-in-racially-motivated-puzzling-world-attack
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May 29, 2018 10:15pm
Monique Watson

I know right, @Starboard?

I find it alarming that young men can become so drunk and get so violent,” Judge Phillips said of the incident.

So fucking alarming they got the slap on the wrist and home detention so the cuzzie bros can bring them a feed and a couple of doz. Questions should be asked? Was it attempted homicide? I’d start there.
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May 29, 2018 10:24pm
starboard

Dead right M.. Place the fuckers in the big house for 12 months then we will see how tough they really are.. And a couple of fag names as well, Sheridan and Taylor ?
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May 29, 2018 10:33pm
Monique Watson

Oh fuck, that cracked me the fuck up! Fag names abound these days. Snowflake generation gone wild naming the loin-fruit.
Used to be in my day, the only fucking fag name was Oscar. And now you get every variety of offspring named after a day of the week, month of the year or a season. Or a bush. One of these fantabulous days someone called “Cabbage Tree” will be in the regional media.
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May 29, 2018 10:42pm
RF

Another shit fight for Ardern to push onto Peters.

Her expert claims that Meth contamination in houses is virtually non existent so Twyford can have his state houses back.

One of the heads of real estate calls this bull shit and asks if NZ is different to the rest of the world concerning acceptable levels of contamination..

I predict this will be a game changer as it’s another Labour cluster Fuk in the making.
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May 29, 2018 10:55pm
Monique Watson

Fucking meth-heads are rooting the rental stock. I had some crack-head polluting my house in Addington, Christchurch. Their kittens were crapping on the carpet. I couldn’t get in,even though I knew breaches of the Housing Act were occurring. Cunts. Protected Cunts.
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May 29, 2018 11:32pm
Monique Watson

Anyone notice how Free fucking speech is fucking Goneburgers.
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May 29, 2018 11:41pm
- stephieboy
  
  MW, free speech?
  
  Nope!
  
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  December 30, 2018 7:54pm
Monique Watson

Under the Headlines of,”Oh Fuck Me””.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104285760/girl-involved-in-fatal-palmerston-north-police-chase-in-a-stable-condition-in-hospital
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May 29, 2018 11:59pm
- Northland Wahine
  
  What more could I have done? Asks her mother? Why was a 12 yr old at course and not school? Was her behaviour as such that she was unable to attend school? You thought?! she was at course? Didn’t you know? Didn’t the course phone you to tell you she didn’t turn up?
  
  I swear, the more you learn, the more questions arise.
  
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  May 30, 2018 6:37pm
Northland Wahine

And the carnage continues…

So prison sentences 2 yrs and less could be served as home d. On benefit, receiving extra payments to keep them warm in the winter, phones and subsequent top ups to keep in touch with parole officers. Not to mention, inseminating the next batch of no hopers.

You’re a monumental moron, Little.
http://nzh.tw/12061558
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