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Longknives

This Joel Maxwell character is at it again-

“Go Home Whitey”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104216640/joel-maxwell-thieving-pkeh-neighbours-have-been-stealing-our-stuff-for-years

I’m not sure what Stuff is trying to achieve publishing this racist and divisive drivel.
If Mr Maxwell wants to argue for Maori Wards why doesn’t he present a clear and concise argument for them? Rather than just sneering at/threatening White People..
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May 28, 2018 8:03am
- RalphT
  
  But he does provide a bit of balance; the chip on his shoulder acts as a counter to that on Jane Bowron’s.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:11am
  - Prince
    
    Unfortunately they’re both on the left shoulder. That newspaper is listing badly and on the rocks.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:56am
- Gravelroad
  
  Please folks, don’t give this guy Maxwell the air time and notoriety he craves.
  He is a troll.
  Every time contributors on here get up in arms about this type of garbage and continue to discuss it provides money in the bank for the Stuff Propaganda and Control Department.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:15am
  - igm
    
    Fairfax only need another small drop in ad revenue and they are gone. When reading crap like Maxwell produces, it is no wonder, with advertisers going away in droves. They even appear to be having problems with Trademe figures . . . what a shame!
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:44am
    - Kabull
      
      As a direct result of Fairfax taking this guy on, and the clear racial bias he displays, I cancelled my subscriptions to the DomPost and the Saturday paper.
      
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      May 28, 2018 9:05am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        I hope you told them the reason?
        
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        May 28, 2018 10:46am
- Inandout
  
  He should go back to free local papers.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:15am
  - igm
    
    Fairfax have very few suburban papers left.
    
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    May 28, 2018 11:07am
- brett68
  
  Look at you bite like a big white shark.
  
  Mission accomplished.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:18am
  - sooty
    
    Sorry reported by mistake.
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:33am
- backster
  
  He looks about a sixteenth Maori and is probably a Schoolteacher.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:40am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Apparently a sixteenth is not a problem, based on the notion of “I feelz, therefore I am.”
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:00am
    - 4077th
      
      I scribbled on my chin so I am 🙂
      
      It’s not yours, it’s ours so take it off you are not allowed you are white 🙂
      
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      May 28, 2018 12:00pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        4077th,
        
        Are only whites (or members of a “oppressive” race) prohibited from getting Maori tattoos? Let’s say the daughter of immigrant Burmese parents wishes to get a moko? Or what if Tibetian? Would the line be drawn at Japanese women? (The case could be made that the Japanese government has oppressed the indigenous* people of Japan.)
        
        * As recognized by the United Nations
        
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        May 28, 2018 12:37pm
      - KevOB
        
        I understand that moko are specific to particular tribes.
        
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        May 28, 2018 1:43pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        You could claim your tattoo is a Celtic one – a lot of similarities.
        
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        May 28, 2018 2:09pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Odakyu-sen
        
        No-one is prohibited for getting a moko/moko kaue.
        It’s just that there are divided opinions as to whether non-Maori should have tattoos associated with Maori designs.
        Here are two Maori that are quite happy for non-Maori to embrace and display aspects of their culture.
        Inia Taylor:
        https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/358135/moko-artist-defends-controversial-work
        Tania Cotter:
        https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/358052/pakeha-with-facial-moko-divides-maori-community
        
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        May 28, 2018 3:28pm
- Jack5
  
  Maxwell is working out his angst at being mixed race. He must hate the white side of his family.
  
  Still, you don’t have to buy the newspapers that insult your race.
  
  Backster says Maxwell’s probably a schoolteacher. I think he calls himself a journalist. He should write in Maori – if he can.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:36am
  - Jack5
    
    Maxwell wrote on April 30:
    
    “About seven weeks ago I started studying te reo Maori …”
    
    AND
    
    I used to be just another Maori who did not speak te reo. Now, to be fair, I still don’t speak te reo Maori very well, but I am a whole person for the first time in my life.
    
    A gushing, hyper-emotional fuckwit. Guaranteed to put other white folk off learning Maori.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:46am
    - Lance
      
      Does he wear an ENORMOUS carving around his neck?
      
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      May 28, 2018 9:48am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        The weight of the carving around his neck might go someway to balance the chip on his shoulder…
        
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        May 28, 2018 12:39pm
  - Colville
    
    Yeah his great grand mum probably swapped a string of beads for some semen with a seaman!
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:52am
  - KevOB
    
    You can’t write much in Maori. Most of the lingo is mutilated English.
    
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    May 28, 2018 7:08pm
- Eketahuna
  
  He’s recently (re)discovered his Māori heritage and like so many converts has turned against his previous life. Many Māori responding on Stuff reject his simplistic view of ‘them’ and ‘us’ and some who were eligible voted against in the referenda. He completely ignores the fact 25% of MPs have at least some Māori heritage which suggests quite a few ‘pakeha’ voted for them. If somewhere like Whakatane which is well over 40% ‘identified as Māori’ voted no then I suspect many who voted against identified as Māori.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:57am
- GoVege
  
  Maybe they’re a bit short of “clear and concise arguments for them”, so making up nonsense about how their Pakeha ancestors robbed their Maori ancestors blind is a comfortable diversion.
  I would like to see more scholarships for young Maori though.
  Might take away some of the embarrassment about kids who study hard being “potatoes”.
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:49am
  - GoVege
    
    I just had a middle-aged Maori guy signal to me outside McDonald’s.
    I thought he wanted to cross the road so I slowed…then he rubbed his fingers together presumably wanting money.
    I am constantly asked for money and without exception every one is Maori.
    (I usually give to women because I reckon they take such cr*p they deserve some.)
    But the men?
    Have they no shame?
    
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    May 28, 2018 11:57am
    - brett68
      
      Maori have no shame these days.
      
      Mana, my arse.
      
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      May 28, 2018 1:12pm
  - KevOB
    
    More charter schools where Maori were once better educated.
    
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    May 28, 2018 1:45pm
Monique Watson

Projection for today’s news:
Weather is shite.
Cows killed. Sorry, ‘culled’,
It makes it so much more acceptable to townies to talk in terms of ‘culling”.
Everything blamed on farm runoff.
Spin doctoring Twats making hay while the sun shines.
Next election can’t come soon enough.
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May 28, 2018 8:04am
- skyblue
  
  Greens will demand eradication, ie kill/cull.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:08am
  - Maxx
    
    Greens will demand that the only way to be sure is to cull the entire heard. This is for the good of Gaia.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:26am
  - KevOB
    
    Green culling has commenced too. Magenta is on the rise.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:38am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    and then complain about the “unintended consequence” of the massive rise in the price of the milk we now import from Australia, who incidentally
    also have M…bovis.
    
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    May 28, 2018 11:08am
    - GoVege
      
      So how are the Ozzies dealing with M bovis?
      
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      May 28, 2018 5:20pm
      - RW Capitalist
        
        NOT by culling.
        
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        May 28, 2018 5:45pm
- Paulus
  
  Of course cows will be killed whatever.
  But this then gives the COLL and Robertson the opportunity to blame the Farmers for the fact that they Government (you and me) will have to pay for it so he can then have an opportunity to put some sort of tax on it.
  It is estimated at One billion dollars will be spent and that it is the National Party’s fault despite no special taxes were needed for the twenty five billion and more that is being spent on Christchurch.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:22am
- cas
  
  And of course this Govt has cut funding for rural mental health ( I think they were only asking for 600k) so clear where its priorities are. Not with the farmers but with racehorse owners etc.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:42am
  - Prince
    
    Only the good looking racehorses, and more to the point tax avoidance by their owners.
    I thought Peters promised to stamp out greedy rich folk avoiding taxes, not find new ways avoid it.
    But then I made the fatal mistake of believing his manifesto.
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:02am
  - GoVege
    
    Really??
    Are they just gonna wait for farmers to start topping themselves?
    Surely they should be increasing services for distressed farmers!
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:08pm
Inandout

Nurses, rather unusually, decided to strike whilst under ‘Labour care’. It is unusual because industrial trouble normally brews under National, seen as the ‘enemy of workers’. Perhaps the coalition is such a self seeking mess that it invites little worker loyalty.
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May 28, 2018 8:08am
- skyblue
  
  Unions know Labour are weak on this issue and have to cowtow as per pre election comments and post election statements such as 9 years of neglect.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:10am
  - suzieq
    
    “Kowtow” … Though I prefer your spelling in truth.
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:54pm
- mandk
  
  Industrial trouble is always worse under Labour.
  The Unions want payback when Labour is in charge, and Labour Ministers are too weak to deal with the Brothers and Sisters.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:33am
- KevOB
  
  The unions are flexing their muscles. Why should the unions have any direct input into the selection of the Leader of the Parliamentary Labour Party?
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:43am
- Philview
  
  I thought the Unions controlled the Labour Party but now seems the communist donors in China have some input. This probably explains why criticism of the Government is now called “Hate Speech” and laws will be implemented to stamp it out.
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:03am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Didn’t they try that before?
    Have the changed the name of “The Electoral finance Act”
    
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    May 28, 2018 5:47pm
- suzieq
  
  Not at all. Few strikes under National — they knew they’d get nowhere. But watch for public sector (especially) strikes under Labour because they expect sympathy. Union and employment lawyers gearing up for a busy three years.
  
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  May 28, 2018 12:53pm
EAD_TWO

Sooooo progressive:

https://mobile.twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/1000513351305322497

https://mobile.twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/1000513775768924160
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May 28, 2018 8:09am
- EAD_TWO
  
  For those wondering what I’m linking to – its a news articles showing the “progress” of civilisation whereby aborted babies ~~are sacraficed to Moloch~~ in the UK are incinerated as a means by which to heat hospitals:
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/15/aborted-babies-incinerated-to-heat-uk-hospitals/
  
  Such progress……
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:46am
Left Right and Centre

All I want to do is watch some Ellen and have a few laughs, but it’s hard to avoid finding more reasons to hate America.

Skip to 2:17 – ‘Oh, I’m a multi-talented entrepreneur and a humanitarian and environmental activist’. And – she’s a massage therapist. Jade is it ? Great stripper name there.

Yeah – those single use takeaway cups are really friendly to the environment you hypocritical moron.
(Could be recycled, recycleable or re-used – but what do you reckon ?)
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May 28, 2018 8:15am
- Inandout
  
  What a man!
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:19am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    hahahahahaha
    yeow, player, what is *up* with your ass ??
    What is your *problem* hater ?
    Are you trying to *internet TV shame* people ?
    
    I watch what I watch – suck my big fat youtube.
    
    Man – KB must be getting a lot of traffic – loading blackouts. This is when they change something in the matrix.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:24am
oldpark

What an indictment for the Peters selected “Coalition of Corruption and Chaos”.
Heard the top man in Auckland Grammar School being interviewed on one of many new proposals to change the NCEA exams as proposed by the grubby little Effeminate Hipkins, the Peters installed so called Education Minister.
The Auckland Grammar School top man said the proposals were a “Quagmire”.
How appropiate going a wee bit more for NZs voters to dwell on. Sums up the present also ran Peters installed gang of no hopers.
“Quagmire”=Entanglement or a Jumble. A real mishmash.
As for the architect of such a mish mash of no hopers .Selected by Peters 40 chaotic years in NZ Parliament. Check out where his rat bag Party are making out in the latest Polls.
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May 28, 2018 8:17am
- artemisia
  
  Mr Hipkins is just doing what the teacher unions tell him to.
  
  Nothing like a spot of change for change’s sake. Hope he does not forget that ‘revolution’ is expensive. In a large sector like education changes impact huge numbers of people, many of whom now need new processes, documentation, training, reviews, conversations.
  
  All costing big bucks.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:24am
  - doggone7
    
    Yeah? The calls are constant that education, schools and teachers don’t change, and now there is talk of change. Surely there won’t be moaning about the possibility of change.
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:58am
    - Happychappy
      
      The one thing the Education sector and the Labour Minister should be asking is how Charter Schools were able to take these hopeless children that caused disruption in the classroom that public School Teachers no longer wanted to teach then turned out to be top students. Why did they not reject discipline and hard work at Charter Schools and achieve, well the answer has always been teachers in the public schools only care about those that are clever or gifted and know that the Union will back their call to remove those that don’t conform to their belief. Why do you think the Labour have to put them back in the public School system as the Union won’t except it any other way.
      
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      May 28, 2018 9:47am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        ‘been teachers in the public schools only care about those that are clever or gifted and know that the Union will back their call to remove those that don’t conform to their belief.’
        
        Sometimes I just think you write bollocks and other times I know what you write is utter bollocks; this is an ‘other times’
        
        It is obvious that you have no connection to anyone with any dedication to education or know anyone involved in the teaching profession.
        
        Just to help you out here, there are a great many dedicated teaching professionals grappling with the vicissitudes of what passes for the education system in New Zealand, and contrary to yours and others firmly held convictions, are not card carrying members of the Aotearoa Communist Party or the equally stupid labour party.
        
        It may surprise you learn how much teaching time is lost to nursing complete misfits in the school system so that the special ones are included, a totally disproportionate time fucking about doing things like administering medication to children who should not be in the class or the school. The teacher administering the medication because the fuckwit parents refuse to recognise that their little, Johnnie, Sophie, Manu, Rangi, Mahammad and Mahommadette are the problem, not the poor mite who has been stabbed with the scissors.
        
        The ‘gifted’ children are frequently neglected for the ‘special’ members in the class, usually numbering about 10%, who cannot be trusted with pencils let alone scissors in the great New Zealand drive to mediocrity where everything dumbed down to the child coming from the home where there is no parent skills and even less discipline so that we can embrace ‘inclusiveness’
        
        I don’t doubt there are ‘reds under the bed’ but your broad-brush approach is an unwarranted slur on many good teaching professionals in this country that are doing their best with what they have in the parameters that the clown party in the Beehive prescribe.
        
        Take a moment to walk in a teachers shoes, and thank the person who taught you to read this.
        
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        May 28, 2018 1:24pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        a totally disproportionate time fucking about doing things like administering medication to children who should not be in the class or the school.
        
        When I was teaching our senior administration tried to shove this nonsense on our shoulders. We were told one staff meeting that as teachers etc, we had to ensure that student X took his ADHD medication at 11am each morning. I objected and told the bosses that as we were not trained nurses/paramedics etc, we could not be responsible for assessing the condition of the student before administering a prescription drug. That was something either a trained medico or a member of his family should do.
        The rest of the staff agreed… and the parent was made to come into school to deliver the kid’s medicine.
        Classroom teachers shouldn’t be taking on tasks that nurses, professional psychologists, social welfare officers, school counsellors are paid (but often fail) to do.
        
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        May 28, 2018 3:43pm
      - Happychappy
        
        Paul’s Gnome you actually remind me of a couple teachers I had in the 1950’s that used to call students names and throw dusters at them. I do appreciate that teachers have a hard job but the sector now days wants to have it all ways and the point I was trying to make is how can Charters schools gain the respect of the students that the public education sector don’t want and get them to achieve with discipline and hard work when The public system can’t. By the way two
        of my neices are teachers.
        
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        May 28, 2018 5:37pm
- Paulus
  
  Look it is what the Teacher’s Unions want so suck it up.
  The Unions pay the piper so call the tune.
  The latest opinion poll is irrelevant as we “Voted for a change” and that is what we have got and cannot change it until 2020.
  By that time much of the changes cannot be reversed – that is the way the communists think.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:27am
- VicParking
  
  It seems that it to “hard” work wise for teachers to prepare students for externally marked exams. Much better that they let them run wild in class and pass them before they head off for their Xmas holidays.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:36am
  - KevOB
    
    The real reason is that they don’t want their lesser able Polynesian student population to be seen to be under performing relative to others. NZ still has to live with them: we can’t dumb the whole country down. That’s why they appear more prominently in the supported classes including young mothers.
    
    When the year 10 “maths” includes teaching GST calculations hasn’t the curriculum been reduced sufficiently already? They can get a certificate but that doesn’t make them employable.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:54am
G152

I hear all about the terrible pay rates that teachers suffer and my heart pumps custard.
They cant afford to live in Auckland???
Do they ever think of how hard it is for the ordinary family in Auckland to just get by on a shit load less income than them ???
My guess would be no ..
And these people who want pay parity and yet are in unique professions ?
Well now labor can be ‘fix it man’ after all they promised
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May 28, 2018 8:21am
- Paulus
  
  Nurses want parity with Teachers – perhaps parity can be agreed by teachers dropping their pay scales to meet the Nurses (I believe that a third of Nurses are new New Zealanders).
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:29am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Teachers and nurses . . .
    Name two things that robots are going to replace.
    In the not too distant future . . .
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:42am
  - Ross12
    
    I’m not sure if this correct, but if so it is a worthy argument. A guy rang talkback the other day and said you cannot compare nurses and teachers as nurses get paid overtime, days in lieu (for public holiday work) etc. whereas teachers are just a straight salary. ( Do not bring up the long holiday bit for teachers –they are often partly used for planning, professional development etc.)
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:11am
    - Colville
      
      Yeah nurses and midwives work shift work 7 days a week and have lives in their hands.
      Teachers work 35 hr week and have 3 months paid leave.
      Both have similar professional requirements but very dissimilar renumeration.
      
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      May 28, 2018 10:01am
      - Paulus
        
        It was a Nurses Union Leader this morning on Radio NZ who brought the comment about Nurses wanting equity on a comparable basis as Teachers.
        
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        May 28, 2018 1:42pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        I know an older teacher who recently completed university course to increase her salary. She said many ‘diversity’ students on her course were absolutely appalling, poor English, disorganised, not doing study or assignments. Future teachers…
        
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        May 28, 2018 1:43pm
  - KevOB
    
    A RN is 10x more skilled than most primary teachers and 5X that of secondary teachers.
    
    Most school teachers: babysitters with acculturation.
    
    I could argue that nurses pay increase be financed from corresponding reductions in early childhood carers and primary school teachers.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:58am
  - Prince
    
    Both teachers and nurses would have been significantly better off under National’s plan to move the tax brackets, but they were conned by the Unions, Greens, Labour and Media portraying this as ‘tax cuts for the rich’.
    So instead their extra taxes go towards owners of good looking horses, the Pacific Island oligarchy, Foreign Affairs luvvies, and Labour Party hacks like Cullen bludging off the public purse in the ever-growing committees and policy reviews.
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:16am
  - redeye
    
    Nurses don’t generally try to indoctrinate the people they care for with left wing propaganda.
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:36pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  People with maths and science skills living in large cities have much better paid options than teaching. So schools find it hard to get decent maths and science teachers.
  
  That’s a problem whether you sympathise with teachers or not. Also, try to avoid the same mistake as the media which is assuming what teachers think is the same as what teacher unions say.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:42am
  - Jack5
    
    Not sure about the competition from industry for maths and science teachers, Nigel. This is from a Lincoln Tan report in the Hooerald on Saturday:
    
    “Donny Lai, 50, a former university lecturer from Hong Kong, will next week be returning home with his wife and young son after three years of struggling to secure a decent job.
    
    “Lai describes himself as a ‘highly qualified IT professional’ and moved here in April 2015 because he believed the education system here was better for his 9-year-old son Justin.
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:06am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    Also, try to avoid the same mistake as the media which is assuming what teachers think is the same as what teacher unions say.
    
    Experience tells me that teachers, as a group, think exactly what the union tells them to think.
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:30pm
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
oldpark , Auckland Grammar does not have NCEA, They’ve opted for Cambridge so how would the so “Topman” know?

All made up methinks.
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May 28, 2018 8:21am
- GazzaW
  
  Once again you are wrong stephie. Only the top streams at Auckland Grammar sit Cambridge. Lower streams sit NCEA.
  
  You’re making stuff up methinks.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:33am
  - Harkman
    
    Weren’t schools giving out NCEA credits for picking up rubbish?
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:06am
- VicParking
  
  Don’t be so hard on Stephie, morning by the way, because he is an expert on making stuff up ??
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:38am
  - sooty
    
    He could get a job with Twitford, both are idiots.
    
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    May 28, 2018 11:51am
- oldpark
  
  Stephieboy/Girl /
  Now where were we on you explaining how your “top man”Mohammed was a kiddie fiddler and married a nine year old girl.Hopefully you will at least get that explanation right.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:42am
  - G152
    
    Actually she was six when he married her and nine when he screwed her
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:25am
    - stigie
      
      Bollocks, how can a real man wait 3 years to screw his 9 year old wife…….?
      Will Stiffy be able to tell us..?
      
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      May 28, 2018 11:49am
- hullkiwi
  
  Dopeyboy, the reason AGS do the Oxford/Cambridge exam syllabus is because it is all about ensure children leave the school with qualifications that are recognised internationally. Which is more than can be said for a system that is ensuring NZ fifteen year olds are continuing to fall further behind in international maths, science & literacy rankings.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:50am
- pentwig
  
  you really shouldn’t think sillyboy
  it shows how stupid you are
  
  LOL
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:51am
Andrei

So Donald Trump will be talking to Kim Jong-un after all.
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May 28, 2018 8:23am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Donald Trump will be talking to Kim Jong-un on his terms, not rocketman’s.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:21am
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
We had a circus yesterday created here by posters here on KB claiming Martyrdom for a certain far right ratbag known as Tommy Robinson. Also whingeing on about MSM not covering his trial for alleged breach of the peace.

BS !

Hundreds of demonstrators descended on Whitehall to protest against far-right figurehead Tommy Robinson’s arrest for allegedly breaching the peace outside a Leeds courthouse.

The area had to be closed to traffic as the group gathered outside Downing Street on Saturday afternoon.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-protest-downing-street-whitehall-free-latest-arrest-police-a8371616.html

PS for some reason he has adopted the Pseudnym of Tommy Robsinson insteaqd of hsi real name, Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon.

Why?
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May 28, 2018 8:30am
- Monique Watson
  
  And your point is?
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:31am
  - Harkman
    
    There is no point to his madness there never is, it’s Ramadan at the moment, so his blood sugar levels are especially low. It’s actually better he nags us then blowing up a bus or hijacking a plane.
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:43am
    - simpleton1
      
      The problem in London of buses being blown up has been solved!
      https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/if-you-think-the-allah-is-great-london-buses-are-a-problem-youve-proven-why-we-need-them-a7020761.html 9 May 2016
      
      Such very safe buses to travel on 🙂
      
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      May 28, 2018 8:51am
      - sooty
        
        Just as well Twitford is going for trams and not buses!
        
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        May 28, 2018 9:11am
    - simpleton1
      
      Sooty.
      A buraq would be good for night time travel, to the furthermost wherever.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq
      
      All quietly done in his dreams.
      
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      May 28, 2018 9:20am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Yesterday at 3.07pm:
  
  “stephieboy
  why report a rabid right-wing baiter and loser?”
  
  Today:
  unsolicited comment on the very subject.
  A new obsession in the struggle for relevance?
  
  sqwark
  Tommy Robinson
  alt-right
  Trumpeters
  Stormy Daniels
  LOL
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:11am
- Twinkletoes
  
  I heard it was just a general name used since WW1 for the ordinary ranks in the army – or any bloke in the lower economic stream in UK. Also saw quick glimpse on twitter, can’t remember whose, that he had been attacked in jail by a muslim and is now in Hull jail.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:17am
  - Duxton
    
    It was actually used well before WW1. A few years before he died, the Duke of Wellington was asked to suggest a name to be used for training and representational purposes on Army forms. He chose ‘Tommy Aitkins.’ It remains a mystery as to whether he had a particular soldier in mind, or he simply plucked it out of mid air. Apparently he pondered in silence for several minutes before giving the name.
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:49pm
secondcumming

So, Peter Dutton has indicated he is now willing to reconsider New Zealand’s offer to take 150 Manus Island Refugees…….providing they are banned from ever going back to Australia.

Anyone here have a problem with that?
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May 28, 2018 8:32am
- mandk
  
  Yes.
  
  Are they refugees or economic migrants?
  
  If the latter, we should not take them under any circumstances.
  
  It would only encourage the people smugglers.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:37am
  - secondcumming
    
    Not sure of the answer to your question mandk.
    But if it’s any help, according to one ‘Shane Bazzi’, many of them are gay or bi-sexual.
    
    https://twitter.com/shanebazzi/status/867285966481833984
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:00am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      And will forever be a burden on Tax Payers. Well I for one don’t want to pay for them. There are myriad better uses for my money.
      
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      May 28, 2018 1:49pm
  - Jack5
    
    The only way that Australia could ensure Manus refugees to NZ did not enter Australia from NZ, would be to institute visas for entry of all NZ citizens.
    
    That is by closing Australia’s NZ back door.
    
    Would Jacinderella and the Melon Greens risk that to get Manus refugees into NZ? Probably, they would.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:58am
    - calendar girl
      
      They had better not risk that!
      
      If they did, perhaps even Trevor Mallard would be impatient to use a cogent little phase that seems to sit in his mind, waiting to get out: “stupid little girl!”
      
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      May 28, 2018 1:34pm
    - Duxton
      
      What you are suggesting would actually be quite popular in Australia. Kiwi bashing has long been a vote-winner.
      
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      May 28, 2018 10:17pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Bwahahaha!
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:44am
- Rich Prick
  
  Yes. They simply aren’t “refugees”, they’re queue jumpers who were prepared to break Australia’s immigration laws. If the stupid little girl is stupid enough to take in law breakers, at least tag them before release so as to enable an easy re-catch.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:08am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Yup.
  How would a ban from ever going back to Australia be achieved without restricting the movements of other NZers?
  Has the Silly Little Girl [Mallard, May 2018] thought through the consequences of her virtue signalling?
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:19am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Well, that is interesting.
  
  Aussie Labor looks to be having a bit of internal conflict about how it is handling the illegal immigrants.
  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-27/bill-shorten-says-labor-will-stop-the-boats/9805476
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:21am
  - secondcumming
    
    Very interesting. Looks like they’ve finally realised what the majority of Australians actually want….. and what a total vote-loser their original stance would be.
    
    Aussie needs to strike while the irons hot and deport them all over here. The welcoming committee will be ecstatic.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:34am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I reckon that’s Dutton’s plan.
      
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      May 28, 2018 9:38am
    - kowtow
      
      Nothing like losing his place at the trough to concentrate a pollie’s attention.
      
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      May 28, 2018 9:38am
    - VicParking
      
      Golly will be the first to line up to be raped
      
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      May 28, 2018 9:47am
      - double d
        
        That is a seriously sick comment.
        Get a grip man.
        
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        May 28, 2018 8:12pm
softail 1450

Longknives, imagine the shitstorm that would happen if say the herald published that article but with it being about “thieving maori”, jackson and his mates would be screaming blue murder at the same time as they were erecting the scaffold for the noose.
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May 28, 2018 8:35am
VicParking

It seems that women have to lie to get an Abortion and its the states fault.
It seems that women have to lie to get the DPB and its the states fault.
This is not a criticism of women or their predicament but the fact that somehow lying is the states wrong doing.
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May 28, 2018 8:43am
- Monique Watson
  
  I’d only lie to get another drink. Just so you know there’s one mostly honest cow out there.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:46am
- Philview
  
  It sounds like it is all Simon Bridge’s fault per various media this morning.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:57am
Harkman

So Winnie’s crew are down to 2% for destroying the regions. Now watch the lazy clowns on his list start to squirm at the thought of having to get a proper job.
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May 28, 2018 8:46am
- Harkman
  
  Step 1 get Winston First under 5% ✔
  now
  Step 2 get the Greens under 5% (just 0.7% to go)
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:48am
  - sooty
    
    Watch for waka jumpers! Whinney will need to apply more Greecian 2000 to the head to keep the grey hairs at bay after this latest poll.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:08am
    - Paulus
      
      Winnie will have to change his Toupee for people to recognise him before the next election.
      
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      May 28, 2018 1:45pm
  - Colville
    
    Greens achieve 20% on election day than they poll so if a election was held today National would win it?
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:33am
    - Colville
      
      Achieve 20% less!
      The devil is in the detail ?
      
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      May 28, 2018 11:16am
      - Duxton
        
        Only on election day. They make up the difference with ‘Specials’: overseas voters who like the Green message, but don’t have to live with the consequences.
        
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        May 28, 2018 12:53pm
- Maxx
  
  It’ll be interesting to see who Winnie & Jones hit out at over the next few weeks (Air NZ) to try and lift their profile again and show that they are for the people.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:35am
  - RF
    
    I do believe Peters will try and make headlines during his brief role as acting PM.
    
    This will be a belated attempt to kick start his rapidly deminishing public acceptance.
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:02am
    - Happychappy
      
      Another court case could in the making as Winston First will blame National for his woes and as you all know it could not be NZ Firsts fault. The voter has already figured out Shane Jones and knowing his long history of being a trout mouth and full of crap have learnt that he is all piss and wind with promises that he can’t keep.
      
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      May 28, 2018 11:06am
- hullkiwi
  
  He better force his Wala jumping bill through, else He’ll really be in the proverbial.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:48am
EAD_TWO

Faith Goldy has been shoahed for uttering the 14 words:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8C4Dcj4sY7

Universities won’t let me speak.
YouTube won’t monetize my videos.
Now, Patreon has me banned.
Their reason? They claim the ’14 words’ are hate speech.
So, I hit the streets of Toronto to find out if there’s a double standard at play.

Well worth watching to see her response.
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May 28, 2018 8:50am
- Random T Person
  
  Must say it irritates me how these people think they are owed a voice by YouTube etc. They are not. Don’t like it, don’t use it.
  Aaah, but the lure of fame is so strong, isn’t it.
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:52am
  - UpandComer
    
    YouTube has a structural and functional monopoly. There is no choice. And they are deplatfoemong everyone and everything they can. Faith is a nice girl who deserves better then this. The world is getting more dangerous by the day. YouTube needs to be broken up as it is a public domain. But the CIA runs Google and it’s behooves them to filter information through a single source. So everyone gets demonetised, de-platforming, shadow banned. It’s not about her personal circumstances. It’s fucking speech. Right wing people have a right to exist.
    
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    May 28, 2018 3:44pm
VicParking

Red radio’s interview with the so called “CIA analyst” went down like a cup of cold sick. The guy said nothing as Guyon pumped him with one loaded question after another. Guyon would have got more from interviewing his typewriter. I notice however that in the analysis’s meeting with congress he specifically mentioned ‘Jacinda Aderns Government’ that was not brought up by Guyon. It seems that Guyon has been straining his “Guyon Canal” once again.
https://eorthopod.com/guyons-canal-syndrome/
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May 28, 2018 8:55am
- Monique Watson
  
  Espiner is Piers Morgan in the fucking making. More’s the pity.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USwzfflxkVc
  
  However that Hosking is a good bastard: Calls it like it is.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12059874
  
  The airport sucks. The crew are arrogant. Hosking nailed it.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:18am
  - VicParking
    
    Although he is right that Auckland Airport is a disgrace I get pissed off with Hosking once again “picking low fruit”. It’s though the man does not need to get out of bed each day to write his articles.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:36am
    - Lance
      
      People read his shit, they don’t read yours.
      Despite all his failings he pisses off the lefty luvies the most and that’s all good by me.
      They shake their tiny fists of rage and demand his sacking… snigger
      
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      May 28, 2018 11:39am
  - Jack5
    
    Hosking? In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:54am
EAD_TWO

Even Zerohedge is covering the Tommy Robinson case:

https://www.zerohedge.com/comment/11739863#comment-11739863

When will DPF be posting on this miscarriage of justice?
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May 28, 2018 9:10am
- kowtow
  
  Very interesting.
  
  Reading a book at the moment about the run up to the English Civil War.
  
  Prior to that event the author said , Englishmen of all classes respected the law as they saw it upholding their rights.
  
  Today it seems the law is there to crush our rights.
  
  Dangerous times.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:23am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Careful Eady: Tommy Robinson has often stated that he is not at all racist, that all ethnicities are fine by him and he has many black friends. So not really your racist cup of tea.
  
  Tommy just doesn’t want the ideology of islamism taking over the UK.
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:08am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    It’s not about race; it’s about values, politics and ideology.
    
    Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NYNCDi44gQ
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:42pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      That was my point, Odakyu-sen. Eadles will never agree.
      
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      May 28, 2018 1:17pm
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    He’s never going to do it EAD!
    
    Never! At heart our host is more progressive than conservative (as we can see the way he’s replayed CNN lies about Trump).
    
    It doesn’t detract from DPF offering the best fractionally right of centre blog in NZ, but he is totally reflective of where National sit on the international spectrum (ie left of the DNC and just a tad right of UK Labour).
    
    The whole muslim thing is just too hard to bite down on for people who like to think of themselves as “nice” and “moderate” and who are prone to indulging in a little bit of white guilt here and there.
    
    So no, the fact that “First they came for Tommy” is happening in the UK (and that it has deeply chilling implications for NZers) just requires pulling the head out of the sand a little too far.
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:47pm
- V
  
  https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/coc-yaxley-lennon-20170522.pdf
  
  While I do have some sympathy. See pages 7 to 12. Seems like he was clearly warned back in 2017 and chose to do it again.
  I would rather these trials proceed and the correct verdict reached than have someone making a name for himself and being in contempt of court.
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:58pm
kowtow

Our media won’t be hyping up these shootings……

…..I wonder why ?

‘At least seven people have been killed and several others hurt from gun violence across Chicago Memorial Day weekend.’

http://abc7chicago.com/7-killed-in-chicago-memorial-day-weekend-shootings/3526934/
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May 28, 2018 9:18am
Chuck Bird

I got this response on NewshubNation Facebook. Go figure.

Kay Josephs Chuck Bird If you had any form of intellagence and actually kept up with news the police never procecuted anybody re the Labour youth camp because nothing happened that dosent happen every weekend at teenage parties This was just a big load of b/s to bash Labour with and it ended up not sexual offending like you perverts wanted it was verbal abuse.and was dealt with You are just another right winged toxic nats supporter Get some meds for you problems .

https://www.facebook.com/NewshubNationNZ/videos/vb.314879818534/10156398883628535/?type=2&theater&comment_id=10156398968638535&reply_comment_id=10156403161148535&notif_t=video_reply&notif_id=1527455228726455
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May 28, 2018 9:28am
- wreck1080
  
  You can often tell a lot about a person from their literacy skills .
  
  This person is poorly educated. The writer likely had parents barely capable of caring for themselves let alone encouraging their children to achieve something in life .
  
  It is sad that this persons life direction is probably set. You’ll read about them in 40 years time about how they can’t afford rent or to heat their homes in winter or even boiling the jug is even too expensive for them!!
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:48am
  - Paulus
    
    Sounds like our Silly Little Girl !
    
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    May 28, 2018 1:47pm
Left Right and Centre

Why I love the internet generally . . .

The internet tells you that . . . you know the weird pull tab on a soft drink can ? The hole in the pull tab – you turn the thing around and that’s where you put a straw – it holds the farking straw. Er – ok. I mean ffs – ever see that happen ever anywhere ? I haven’t. Brilliant.
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May 28, 2018 9:43am
- Flash
  
  I never knew that! All those years . . . . . .
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:18am
- Longknives
  
  What a fantastic piece of information L,R&C!
  That really has changed my World..
  To quote our ridiculous friend Joel Maxwell (After a few weeks of his Maori Language course)-
  “I feel like I am a whole person for the first time in my life”.
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:30am
Rodney Randall

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/05/face-of-the-day-1676/#more-385080

“If Tommy Robinson is beaten up or murdered inside prison during his thirteen months inside, today’s face of the day Justice Marsen is the man who ultimately should be held responsible for his assault and or death.”

“[…] The Judge was seen laughing at a window as Tommy was arrested. Justice Marson threw Tommy in jail for 13 months, and tried to ban anyone in the UK from talking about it”

Comment:

“Lord Pearson is standing up for Tommy

UKIP Peer Malcolm Lord Pearson has written to Home Secretary Sajid Javid after the arrest of Tommy Robinson.

In his letter Lord Pearson said: “if Tommy is murdered or injured in prison he and others will mount a private prosecution against Mr Javid as an accessory, or for misconduct in public office”

Whaleoil will continue to report on this despite the draconian attempts to suppress.

Will DPF cover any of this???
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May 28, 2018 9:50am
Philview

RNZ and now Stuff are showing signs this morning of taking on the attack dog role for the Coalition Government.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104255007/simon-bridges-opposed-to-taking-abortion-out-of-the-crimes-act

Then followed by defending the Labour Party on allegations they are being financed by the Chinese Communist Party. It has been noted that there has been very little post election contact with China. It all makes sense if it is done through back channels.
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May 28, 2018 9:52am
Manolo

Even stephieboy is starting to like Trump:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/us-officials-hold-summit-preparation-talks-despite-uncertainty-surrounding-meeting/2018/05/27/870c8196-61ae-11e8-b166-fea8410bcded_story.html
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May 28, 2018 9:53am
RF

Wait for it.

Labour are forming another advisory group. This time concerning the overhaul of the Welfare System. The biggest in years.

This was just announced by the Labour MP Carmel Sepuloni who surprise surprise has an axe to grind.

You will remember her mother was arrested and
prosecuted for benefit fraud.

Birds of a feather etc……
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May 28, 2018 10:22am
- Longknives
  
  Is the overturning of historic Benefit Fraud convictions next on ‘Dear Leader’s Agenda?
  
  *With healthy $$$ compensation paid to old Mama Sepuloni of course…
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:35am
- cas
  
  Look at who is on it – people like Charles waldegrave the inventor of the living wage. So the likelihood of anything other than Meteria’s fantasies coming to fruition is zilch. These people will back her take the sanctions off policies to the hilt
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:57am
Rodney Randall

“It seems now the traitors are all in the UK Government and the Judiciary. Aren’t we beginning to see their intransigence here? There’s never been any answer from any NZ politician as to why we cannot take Christian or Baha’i refugees instead of those from the UN.

Not one NZ politician has ever given any indication of being in the slightest bit interested. They’ve ignored all pleas to have mercy on these victims of Islam. And this, even after a precedent was set by Australia last year, which took in around 2,000 Christians through the Barnabas Trust.

There are 215 million Christians to choose from, many whose historically ancient communities are being wiped out in the Middle East. For heaven’s sake, NZ MPs, cut the ties with the OIC and the UNHCR – which they seem to control – NOW. Or face what the UK is experiencing in the very near future.
A nation of 4.5million people should not already have 50-70 individuals under surveillance, and soft sentences for Islamic rapists, incendiary Imams, or any others causing disquiet among our people. If this doesn’t amount to treachery I don’t know what does.” -dejavu
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May 28, 2018 10:23am
- Scott
  
  Yes it’s amazing that under leftist policies they give a free pass to Islam and take in literally millions of Islamic “refugees” while totally shutting their borders to Christians who actually are refugees!
  
  The reason is because of the leftist hierarchy of victimisation. Christians are seen as the oppressors and so get cut no slack at all. Christians who are poor and are actually being oppressed in the Middle East for example are routinely ignored.
  
  But you have to understand that the leftist hierarchy of victimisation has Muslims at the top. Muslims are seen as the victims. Even when patently they are the oppressors. They are seen as the victims and are at the top of the leftist demands for more refugees to be admitted into our western countries.
  
  We can even see this with the case of poor Tommy Robinson who has the misfortune of being white and male and therefore at the bottom of the leftist hierarchy of victimisation. He has been summarily imprisoned without fair trial because he had the audacity to report on Muslim rape gangs in Britain. He was arrested, charged, judged and imprisoned all on the same day. There is now a gag order stopping newspapers from reporting on his plight.
  
  This is the leftist hierarchy of victimisation at work. This needs to be totally overturned. We need to return to merit as our guiding principle.
  
  https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12378/tommy-robinson-injustice
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:11am
  - Jack5
    
    A first reaction is that Tommy Robinson’s right to free speech is being hammered because he is an extremist of the Far Right.
    
    However, could it be that the Establishment is silencing Robinson up to prevent him destroying the trials of scores of Muslim Pakistanis and/or Bangladeshis on trial for raping white children in Britain?
    
    What if their lawyers were able to plead that these scum had no chance of a fair jury trial because of the actions of Tommy Robinson and Co? And they then walked free?
    
    There would be uproar in Britain, which to neo-Nazis might seem a political wave to surf.
    
    I say Muslim Pakistanis and Bangladeshis, because in Britain those on trial are being called Asians or South Asians, which is unfair to Sikhs, other Indians, and the many other Asians.
    
    Rodney Randall in his 10.26 post in the Kiwiblog general debate thread yesterday included this:
    
    “A man who left bacon on the steps of a mosque was sentenced to jail and murdered in jail. “
    
    In fact, the man had been jailed, but was a yob and the incident seemed to be part of a pattern of offending. He was not murdered in prison, but died there of a drug overdose.
    
    The West is threatened by Islam and the zealots of multiculturism, but neo-Nazism isn’t the sane defence.
    
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    May 28, 2018 3:22pm
    - Ross12
      
      Tommy Robinson is not a neo nazi , if that is what you are saying in your last sentence.
      As I understand it, it was the sentencing part of the trial so his and other’s presence could have no effect on the trial.
      
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      May 28, 2018 3:40pm
      - Jack5
        
        I hope you are right about Robinson.
        
        This is an interesting piece on him:
        
        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10389954/Who-is-the-real-Tommy-Robinson.html
        
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        May 28, 2018 4:57pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Tommy is not ‘far-right’. He is not a racist. He wants to prevent misogynist, anti-semitic, anti-kuffar and homophobic islamism gaining more control in Europe, and rape gangs getting ignored because they were mainly formed by ‘poor, victimised immigrants’.
      
      And he was reporting on the *sentencing*. The jury trial had ended and he was not jeopardising it.
      
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      May 28, 2018 7:12pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Well, the mental gymnastics required to put that much spin and twist (on what is to most ordinary, decent people obviously a gross abuse of) is worthy of an Olympic medal.
      
      It belongs in the “Hillary should be President because she didn’t understand the electoral system and ran a dumbass campaign” and “Obama deserves his Nobel prize” category of implausible gullibility.
      
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      May 28, 2018 8:53pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      Robinson is not a Nazi and by all means feel free to buy the line that bacon guy died of “drug overdose”?
      
      This is a political hitjob.
      
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      May 28, 2018 10:30pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  ‘Not one NZ politician has ever given any indication of being in the slightest bit interested. ‘
  
  I’ve been observing this for years. Probably some have their heads in the sand about what islamism can do and the others are scared to death about it [literally – look at at how Geert Wilders has to live].
  
  Accusations of ‘racism’ for criticising a religion/ideology is the worst thing for freedom of speech and will destroy us. Islamists know this and use it.
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:18am
  - Komata
    
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    Re: ‘Accusations of ‘racism’ for criticising a religion/ideology is the worst thing for freedom of speech and will destroy us. Islamists know this and use it’.
    
    No surprise therefore that Golly Gee has already mentioned it and is intent in getting it passed into law in NZ.
    
    As you say, muslims have form in such matters…
    
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    May 28, 2018 3:28pm
Keeping Stock

I wonder why DPF would go to the trouble of putting up a post about Clarke Gayford’s false claims about his Wikipedia profile, then not open up the comments.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/05/a_weird_claim.html

Given that Gayford appears to have been caught out by Graeme Edgeler telling an untruth, does DPF not trust us to comment about it?
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May 28, 2018 11:10am
- itstricky
  
  It’s a f* weird claim to say that it’s a weird claim.
  
  Aside from the obvious fact that “lying” about a Wikipedia edit gets him absolutely nothing at, all and is likely therefore, not a lie, there’s always this:
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_guide/Deleting#Deleting_a_revision
  
  Under certain circumstances, such as edits involving libel or a user’s private information, a particular revision may need to be deleted from history. Before using this tool you should familiarize yourself with the criteria for redaction.
  
  Cmon DPF & Graeme, don’t catch yourself a dose of JDS/ADS.
  
  Naturally, I view, with some jolly, the number of KBers who swear black ‘n’ blue that Clarke is a Woman’s Weekly nobody but then spend hours poring over every detail of his Wikipedia page so they can…SNAP!… catch him out!
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:18am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    edits involving libel or a user’s private information
    
    Maybe in the Labour party it’s a libellous insult to suggest someone was once interested in being a police officer, but most of us regard it as a valid career choice.
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:15pm
- Colville
  
  KS
  Yeah because we are such a nice restrained, balanced and fair minded bunch of fuckers ?
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:19am
- RF
  
  The post is a trap. Reminds me of Stephieboys goat that has been tied to a stake to lure unwary Kiwi Bloggers.
  
  Hiding in the bush and waiting for the KBs to strike are the hunters, Mike Bush & Linda Clark.
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:26am
- Happychappy
  
  He has to cover his blog as you know what some of the comments will lead to but the if John Key son had done the same thing every jounalist and left blogger was allowed to say and threaten what they wanted agains’t him without being threatened with legal consequences. Funny how things change when it’s on the other foot.
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:27am
- Monique Watson
  
  Libel or even the threat of is costly these days. Cunts are milling around to bring a suit on DPF. Hope that answers it.
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:46am
- Longknives
  
  This Gayford character certainly seems to have a problem with his veracity-
  
  http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/04/clarke-gayford-shares-how-he-met-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern.html
  
  This is a completely different version of events to the original ‘How we met’ story!
  I enjoy the subtle “Are they rewriting History?” from Gillies at the end..
  
  It amazes me that Labour Spin haven’t tapped him on the shoulder and told him to simply shut the hell up!
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:49am
  - RF
    
    Almost every day both the fisherman’s friend and the fisherman prove that they can tell the most outrageous blaintant lies without blinking.
    
    The media are blinded by fairy dust and until this is blown away we have to put up with the devious duo being given celebrity status.
    
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    May 28, 2018 1:56pm
- secondcumming
  
  Maybe Clarke meant to say…..Space Cadet ?
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:54am
- cmm
  
  I am sure Gayford self-identifies as an honest person.
  
  We must all respect that and rebuild society and history in accordance with his reality.
  
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  May 28, 2018 12:19pm
  - sooty
    
    You would have thought that someone would have told the fishermans friend ” Shut the cake hole “
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:55pm
  - Harkman
    
    If I remember correctly about 15 years ago a radio station in the UK held a competition, ‘who would you like to deport most?’ or something like that and within next to no time the votes overwhelmingly came in for Tony Blair. So the show was forced to change it to non-politicians, then everyone called in voting for Cherie Blair.
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:58pm
- calendar girl
  
  KS: The post by DPF about Clarke Gayford is still up, five hours later, but still no facility for KB readers to comment. Very strange indeed, especially the lack of an explanation.
  
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  May 28, 2018 2:58pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Head over to Pete George’s blog if you are keen to comment.
    https://yournz.org/2018/05/28/odd-claim-of-gayford-rumour-by-gayford/
    We can read it over there.
    
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    May 28, 2018 4:14pm
    - secondcumming
      
      Last time I went over to YNZ for a look, most of the comments revolved around a few Pukeko’s swimming in an open drain behind someones house 🙁
      
      Give me a break!!
      
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      May 28, 2018 5:32pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    well, let’s comment here then. I heard a rumour that the stupid little girl….
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:48pm
- V
  
  Just get Philip Cross to make the edits.
  
  This is a far bigger issue with Wikipedia at the moment.
  https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/05/the-philip-cross-affair/
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:20pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  I know KS, I though that was weird too.
  
  Just like those clickbait Stuff articles that tell outrageous lies and then don’t provide the opportunity to comment.
  
  Gayford is fair game, he does the Lady Diana nonsense of courting media attention then pleading for privacy before he goes out and draws attention to himself again.
  
  I totally agree with the convention (that only seems to apply to the Left) that partners and family should be left out of politics – but it is a quid pro quo arrangement – it cuts both ways and Clarke’s vanity means he can’t help but seek attention at every opportunity.
  
  He’s such a bloody trophy wife!
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:58pm
Manolo

A grave constitutional crisis in Italy, where non-elected President Mattarella, an unabashed man of Brussels, wants to veto a minister:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/italy-pm-designate-attempt-form-populist-government-180527180620213.html

Giuseppe Conte, Italy’s prime minister-designate, has abandoned his mandate to form a new government, the presidential palace has said.

The announcement on Sunday came after a meeting between Conte and Italian President Sergio Mattarella to discuss a proposed list of cabinet members, in what would have been Italy’s first populist government.

Conte’s attempt at forming a government broke down after Mattarella refused to endorse Paolo Savona, a vocal critic of the European Union, for the post of minister of economy.
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May 28, 2018 11:13am
- Ross12
  
  People wonder why the UK voted for Brexit. This situation in Italy is the answer. But unfortunately unless the UK Conservatives get rid of PM May I doubt Brexit will get through or if it does it will be such a useless agreement it will not count.
  
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  May 28, 2018 2:10pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  But it is actually a good thing.
  
  When Europhile idiots like the Pres flout the will of the electorate, it doesn’t take much imagination to foresee what the electorate will do (with size 9 boots on) the next time they get a chance to vote.
  
  It’s like in Holland where Geert Wilders was shut out , despite having one of the largest slices of the electoral pie. Next election his party will be even bigger.
  
  Same in NZ, as soon as National get themselves a leader, the anger at the way 2017 played out will result in a surge that may cost NZ First and hopefully Greens their taxpayer funded holiday from accountability.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:01pm
Monique Watson

I’m losing the battle. My young adult son raced past me. I’d just been mucking around on Urban Dictionary and I asked him: “Son, do you know what Tea Baggin’ is?
He didn’t miss a beat: “Balls in the Mouth”.

Kids these days. When I was a ‘younger’ adult it meant dipping your balls in and out of an unsuspecting victim’s cup of tea.
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May 28, 2018 11:26am
- RalphT
  
  Monique, I think it’s one of those battles that we of an older generation are never going to win.
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:32am
- Longknives
  
  C’mon Monique! I thought being a ‘Gardies’ Girl you would be a bit more worldly than that..
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:35am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Yeah back in the day I did the odd yardie, well before opening hours and met hubby there. Consummated in the Garden Bar at the Cook. 🙂
    Knowing what I got up too, I’m afeared for the next generations!
    
    Oh and there was the Bowler reach-around incident.
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:09pm
    - Longknives
      
      “Oh and there was the Bowler reach-around incident”
      
      Is nobody else even slightly curious?
      Okay I’ll ask…
      
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      May 28, 2018 2:38pm
      - Monique Watson
        
        Haha It was the night after the Logan Park Speights T-Shirt drop. Almost got lucky with a couple of lipstick lezzers on Grange Street.
        
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        May 28, 2018 4:19pm
      - Longknives
        
        You can’t beat a University Education!
        
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        May 28, 2018 4:25pm
- RF
  
  Monique…
  
  Jesus. That sounds very painful as I like my tea very hot.
  
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  May 28, 2018 12:31pm
holysheet

My son saw an elephants penis at the zoo and asked the wife what it was.
“It’s nothing son” she replied.
He asked me the same question. “That’s the elephants penis” I said.
My son said “Mum said it was nothing”
“Your mums spoilt son”
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May 28, 2018 11:54am
- stigie
  
  Bwahahahahaha !~
  
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  May 28, 2018 12:03pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Taxi driver (could be MT_Tinman) is transporting a woman and her son , when they pass a couple of prostitutes on a street corner touting for punters.
  
  The little boy says “What are those girls doing Mum?”
  
  The mother hesitates, then says “They’re waiting for their husbands to drive them home.”
  
  The taxi driver pipes up “Tell him the truth lady. They are prostitutes; they have sex for money with men they don’t know”
  
  The mother is furious, then the kid asks “What happens if the prostitutes have babies Mum?”
  
  No hesitation from the mother this time; “They become taxi drivers son”.
  
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  May 28, 2018 12:16pm
  - MT_Tinman
    
    Almost certainly MT_Tinman 🙂
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:39pm
Captain Mainwaring

Seen Sepuloni’s 11-strong advisory panel for the overhaul of the welfare system?
A more biased lot of lefty troughers it would be impossible to find.
The only ones missing are MeTu and Sepuloni’s benefit-fraudster mother.
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May 28, 2018 12:16pm
- Inandout
  
  Lazy unemployed will be required to take any job offered or lose the benefit….yeah right.
  
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  May 28, 2018 12:44pm
- MrTips
  
  Don’t forget Sepuloni asked specific questions about benefit fraud in Parliament only 2 days before her mum’s trial started. A more challenged person to instigate such a panel could not be found, barring Peters or Turei.
  
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  May 28, 2018 12:51pm
sooty

Silly Little Girl! Tell the truth, Stupid Old Cow!
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May 28, 2018 12:23pm
kevn

What has happened to ‘upandcomer’ ? His Tommy UK updates were comprehensive.
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May 28, 2018 1:01pm
- itstricky
  
  The UK Government got hold of him and silenced his brave expose.
  
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  May 28, 2018 1:06pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Honestly – I couldn’t write what I’m going to write in the UK, and I absolutely would be silenced.
    
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    May 28, 2018 5:28pm
- UpandComer
  
  They’ll be quite long posts Kevn. Protect me from the Hugh haters lol.
  
  I’ll do a series. Today is just analysis of one source I’ve dug up – a rather gentle looking lawyer who was close to Tommy and has now left England to avoid persecution.
  
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  May 28, 2018 5:27pm
Justitia

Yesterday I raised the Human Rights Commission’s devious efforts to create a new crime of “disharmonious speech” in New Zealand in respect of criticism of Islam and its followers by using the UN Human Rights machinery. The UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination is currently chaired by Algeria and the UN Human Rights Council includes countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan where “blasphemy” is punished by death, so there should be no problems there. For those interested in the work of the Commission you can find its documents here: https://www.hrc.co.nz/files…The particular report covering “disharmonious speech” is entitled: “Submission in relation to the twenty-first and twenty-second periodic review of New Zealand under the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination”. One really should make oneself familiar with the thinking of this taxpayer funded organisation which is clearly embarked on a large-scale social engineering project with wide-ranging implications. Happy reading!
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May 28, 2018 1:12pm
- Justitia
  
  Let’s try that again: https://www.hrc.co.nz/files
  
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  May 28, 2018 1:30pm
  - Philview
    
    Your link doesn’t work. They probably have ways of blocking. I am concerned that “criticism” is now called “hate speech”.
    
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    May 28, 2018 2:32pm
    - Justitia
      
      Sorry Philview, it doesn’t seem to work from this page but if you enter it directly into Google you should get there.
      
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      May 28, 2018 3:22pm
      - mandk
        
        The address doesn’t work in my browser or Google.
        
        I thought you might have written .co.nz instead of .govt.nz but the latter doesn’t work either.
        
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        May 28, 2018 3:44pm
  - calendar girl
    
    Thanks for your good work keeping us informed about the sometimes-scary activities of the NZ Human Rights Commission. We need to keep a wary eye on the HRC.
    
    Hopefully you can give us a link later to replace the one you put up that doesn’t work.
    
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    May 28, 2018 3:15pm
  - Justitia
    
    Try googling: Submission in relation to the twenty-first and twenty-second periodic review of New Zealand under the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination. That should take you straight there – it does for me. Also: hrc.co.nz/files
    
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    May 28, 2018 4:16pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  2018 Migration Compact alludes to these hate speech laws.
  
  These quislings must be met head on.
  
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  May 28, 2018 2:26pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Try this link:
  https://www.hrc.co.nz/files/5815/0171/9366/Submission_of_NZ_Human_Rights_Commission_-_21st_and_22nd_Review_of_NZ_under_CERD.pdf
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:04pm
  - Justitia
    
    Thanks Maggy.
    
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    May 28, 2018 4:18pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Thanks Maggy.
    
    It always amazes me how Golriz Garbage-Tin tweets about how awful trade agreements are as they present a threat to NZ’s sovereignty status.
    
    Whenever the edicts of the UNHR are pointed out to her it’s always crickets and in some poor cases a ‘block’
    
    The UN has its tentacles inside both central and local govt in NZ.
    
    How ‘Sovereign’
    
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    May 28, 2018 5:06pm
  - Jack5
    
    That submission would be scary, Maggy, if it weren’t made by a now inconsequential bunch of bureaucrats and flaky zealots.
    
    The submission goes way beyond the commission’s purpose of policing cases of racial discrimination. It confirms that the appointment of Dame Devoid as Race Relations Commissioner was one of the worst political appointments ever made in NZ. She was appointed by then-Justice Minister Judith Collins.
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:12pm
- UpandComer
  
  Good work.
  
  Under no circumstances can we incorporate anything devised by the UN into our own law.
  
  Do not allow these rat-weasel NGO’s to operate in darkness and stab New Zealanders in the back with their conniving little perversions of free speech so they can cry ‘offence!’ and then receive monies for their emotions.
  
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  May 28, 2018 5:29pm
- UpandComer
  
  Write to those tools about applying their principles to Tommy Robinson. Let them do something of use for once. And please keep us abreast of that they’re doing.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:09pm
Monique Watson

Little Johnny went to the doctor to get an infection checked on his penis. As the doctor examined it, he asked,” Lil Johnny how did you get an infection on your penis?” Johnny replied, “Well, the damn neighbor Sally’s braces are quite sharp.”
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May 28, 2018 1:24pm
cha

HW has been admitted to hospital, again. Not sure of his wishes, but if it was me in my 90’s and the process had begun, I’d just go and watch the ocean.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/27/politics/george-hw-bush-hospital-maine/index.html
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May 28, 2018 2:24pm
Manolo

Australia’s bleak future (if Labor wins):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5764819/Bill-Shorten-pressure-bring-asylum-seekers-Australia-three-months-Labor-wins.html

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten is under pressure from his own party to bring more than 1,300 asylum seekers to Australia within three months if Labor wins the next federal election.

A pro-refugee group from his own Victorian branch is demanding an end to offshore immigration detention, despite such a policy causing a dramatic surge in boat arrivals when Labor was last in government and the deaths of 48 people at Christmas Island.
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May 28, 2018 2:25pm
kevn

What has happened to poster ‘upandcomer’? I was looking forward to his offerings for today. He was prolific yesterday with Free Tommy updates and aiming to add new info as it came to hand.
I understand that the WO facebook page on this subject has been blocked.
Not a good look from the UK.
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May 28, 2018 2:45pm
- stephieboy
  
  kevn ,Tommy Robinson’s own personal facebook page seems to be alive and well and fully functioning,
  
  https://www.facebook.com/thetommyrobinson/
  
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  May 28, 2018 3:08pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    Your side is losing Stephie and will be on the wrong side of history.
    
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    May 28, 2018 3:54pm
- UpandComer
  
  I’ll be posting later. I have to navigate each day without causing offence – it’s quite an effort.
  
  I’ve found out a lot more.
  
  It really is amazing what’s been going on in Great Britain.
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:28pm
  - kevn
    
    @UpandComer… Good on you.
    Looks messy in the UK right now. Lord Pearson would be an effective ally.
    
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    May 28, 2018 4:39pm
  - stephieboy
    
    UpandComer from the usual” reputable ” sources?
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_neo-Nazi_organizations#United_Kingdom
    
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    May 28, 2018 4:39pm
Monique Watson

From a Male relative:

My penis was in the Guinness Book of Records.
Then the librarian told me to take it out.
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May 28, 2018 3:07pm
Captain Mainwaring

The gene pool enhancers are at it again.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104269651/serious-crash-blocks-road-near-palmerston-north
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May 28, 2018 3:23pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “Drove into a power pole” means that the car left the road at high speed. (Where hitting a power pole is almost inevitable.)
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:24pm
- stephieboy
  
  Captain Mainwaring, should also think about getting yourself neutered by your nearest Vet.
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:37pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    You could help, by telling him where you get the Vaseline for your goats.
    
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    May 28, 2018 6:33pm
- septic skeptic
  
  You have to question the pursuit policy where they break off the chase if it becomes dangerous. Do the runners deliberately get into dangerous territory in order to get the chase stopped?
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:59pm
Captain Mainwaring

It seems that Hugh has finally got the message.
Stuffing around for two hours digging out all sorts of links, then pasting them on here is a bit futile when we know how to make it all disappear in a couple of minutes.
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May 28, 2018 3:26pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Captain Mainwaring:
  
  Retailers have reported a drop in sales of computer mice (particularly those with scroll-wheels) since Hugh left!
  
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  May 28, 2018 3:47pm
  - sooty
    
    The idiot was lurking in the shadows. He’s iust burst into print. At 5.11. Will he last or not? If he post shorter ones and only one, I might be able to live with it.
    
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    May 28, 2018 5:32pm
Monique Watson

Jaysuz Fucking Christ. New Zealand can’t afford the half billion dollar settlement to nurses and midwives.
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May 28, 2018 3:42pm
- Longknives
  
  Wait till our Welfare Bill freaking doubles!
  No more sanctions real soon…
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:23pm
- sooty
  
  If it was only the nurse it would be ok. But Labour want to give everybody except me a bonus.
  
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  May 28, 2018 5:34pm
Fletch

I just heard on the news on the radio that Jacinda gets paid the 5th highest wage in the world for the leader of a country. If you want my opinion she needs a cut in wages. We, the people, are her boss, and I don’t think she is worth that much.
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May 28, 2018 3:45pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I’m no Jacinda fan but she probably gets a fair suck of the sav for the importance of the job. Big jobs in the private sector pay heaps more and a comparison with other countries is invalid because many countries pay their leaders much less but allow them to loot the national coffers instead.
  
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  May 28, 2018 3:48pm
  - milkmaid
    
    Big jobs in the private sector pay heaps more, but are only offered to proven capable individuals. For John Key, being the PM probably meant a substantial drop in salary. For Jacinda Ardern it’s more than she would ever get in the private sector.
    
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    May 28, 2018 3:57pm
    - Lance
      
      Well considering JK donated his entire salary to charity.. it definitely was a drop in income.
      
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      May 28, 2018 4:06pm
      - milkmaid
        
        I’m not sure his income would have been majorly affected, as he probably has investments bringing in far more than the PM’s salary is worth. But Jacinda has nothing like that behind her.
        
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        May 28, 2018 4:13pm
      - rangitoto
        
        Trump also donates his US$400K to charity.
        
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        May 28, 2018 4:49pm
    - kevn
      
      @milkmaid… I understand that John Key donated his full PM salary to charity.
      
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      May 28, 2018 4:07pm
      - sooty
        
        You would never get a Labour PM donating their salary to charity and work for nothing. Communist Chic seems to have done allright for herself since been selected. Angry did not, must have been paying too much in legal fees. He’s still in the same house I think and still catches the bus.
        
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        May 28, 2018 5:27pm
  - sooty
    
    Yer. But look at her brain copared to a decent CEO in private business? She is lacking.
    
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    May 28, 2018 5:20pm
- Longknives
  
  That’s a bit rough Fletch! Did she put too much chicken salt on your fries?
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:22pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch, but she never needed your vote in the first place and who would ever want it, anyhow?
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:44pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Does anyone else share my view that it’s time we gave consideration to giving septicboy the Hugh treatment?
    
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    May 28, 2018 4:55pm
    - stigie
      
      Shit, think of the goats Captain..?
      
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      May 28, 2018 5:10pm
Lance

I can’t remember the last time I said something positive about the Herald
But at last they publish an accurate story

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12057683

These dishonest clampers are CUNTS and infest Henderson. They should be in jail
The worst part about that story is that it’s happening almost opposite the police station, and the police will do nothing about this actual theft.
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May 28, 2018 4:01pm
- kevn
  
  @Lance… Yep, close eyes for certain activities, must be learning from the UK police.
  Fence the clampers vehicles in with other cars and call the police. Well, one must try to do something. Nothing surerer that it would piss them off.
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:11pm
ex-golfer

Champagne corks will be popping at Green Party/Greenpeace central as the Govt announces plans to cull a further 126,000 cattle (in addition to the 26k already culled).
I wonder if there has been a degree of eco-terrorism going on here……
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May 28, 2018 4:08pm
- milkmaid
  
  🙁 🙁 🙁 Killing 150,00 mostly healthy cows. James Shaw’s hard-on must be near uncontrollable.
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:15pm
  - ex-golfer
    
    Russell Norman will be doing back-flips.
    
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    May 28, 2018 4:24pm
  - cha
    
    Last year 1.69 million healthy bobby calves were slaughtered.
    
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    May 28, 2018 4:35pm
    - milkmaid
      
      I know, cha, and I always do my bit by taking on 1 or 2 each year and giving them a life – the farmer I get them from greatly appreciates seeing at least a few get lives. But it’s not realistic for most people
      
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      May 28, 2018 4:50pm
      - GoVege
        
        Poor wee babies.
        My dad refused to have veal in the house.
        I hear that a place called “Happy Cow” keeps calves with their mums for 15 weeks.
        But then what happens to them?
        
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        May 28, 2018 5:13pm
      - milkmaid
        
        @ Go Vege At Happy Cow they would just wean them at that age – ie separate them from the mothers so they can get the milk.
        
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        May 28, 2018 5:26pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    You would think that’s alot of Cattle but it’s not.
    
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    May 28, 2018 4:40pm
    - milkmaid
      
      True, but if they are your herd it is going to be devastating.
      
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      May 28, 2018 4:46pm
- ex-golfer
  
  I see also that Greenpeace are on an all out attack on the farming industry with their “shock and awe” donation campaign over dirty waterways – long ads playing on TV over the weekend.
  Maybe someone needs to remind them that our rural waterways have never been so clean and the massive amount of work being done by farmers up and down the country is the reason.
  Norman should be attacking his chardonney-swilling mates in the main cities instead – they are now the main poluters of our waterways.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12033498
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:31pm
kevn

I wonder if many farmers have some sort of insurance against stock losses?
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May 28, 2018 4:16pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Is there such insurance?
  (Maybe for stud animals?)
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:21pm
- cha
  
  Biosecurity act 1993 says market compensation is to be paid.
  
  http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0095/latest/DLM316743.html
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:31pm
  - kevn
    
    @cha… Thanks. Cancel winnies 1 billion overseas embassies plan and thats the compo sorted.
    
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    May 28, 2018 4:35pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Yes, but next year’s replacement price for stock will be huge. Last year’s price was less.
    The process for recovering compensation for lost production is highly complex and therefore will take a long time, thinking getting a resource consent time.
    Think killing of new cows to go into herd this calving, 8 years of milking life at least, the heifer calves (unborn) killed in utero, again a loss that might not be considered these are future replacements for the herd 2 years down stream.
    
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    May 28, 2018 5:28pm
- BananaLlama
  
  Anyone with FMG should be covered for loss of livestock.
  
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  May 28, 2018 4:41pm
  - Viking2
    
    So FMG might be the next AMI then.
    That would be a disaster.
    
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    May 28, 2018 6:50pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  Prohibitively expensive, and generally it relates to stud animals, often racehorses that die by accident, broken leg or something. All in insurance far too expensive. Possibly wouldn’t even be contemplated by insurance wholesale slaughter of animals.
  
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  May 28, 2018 5:30pm
kevn

@Oda… People have health/income/business interruption protection insurance, the cows are the farmers sole business.
No cows = no business. There must be some insurance provision though could be costly.
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May 28, 2018 4:30pm
- Inandout
  
  There is, very costly, and has some exclusions. Mainly used for breeding animals.
  
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  May 28, 2018 5:08pm
milkmaid

The govenrment will pay two thirds of the cost, the rest by the farmers.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/104276676/mycoplasma-bovis-cow-disease-to-cost-farmers-278m
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May 28, 2018 5:05pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Farmers are being held to ransom.
  
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  May 28, 2018 5:10pm
- Jack5
  
  Thank goodness it’s not Foot and Mouth disease. The economy would be rooted.
  
  The Greens shouldn’t be unhappy. First the the oil and gas industry is rooted, now work begins on dairy farming.
  
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  May 28, 2018 6:07pm
  - GazzaW
    
    The next hit job will be on tourism. The latest 12 month total of tourism spending was $34.7 billion on which the GST take is around $5.20 billion. Seems that’s not enough for this mob so let’s dream up some new taxes.
    
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    May 28, 2018 7:47pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  So when the burglar is forced to pay reparations, he need only pay for 2/3 of what he took or damaged?
  This is govt. inspired, induced vandalism on a whole (our largest) industry.
  If you were to sue someone for this kind of wanton destruction, loss plus pain and suffering would be 125% of the loss.
  
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  May 28, 2018 6:41pm
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND: Salvation Army questions ability of government departments to handle the flagship house building plan; seeks establishment of group to deliver houses ‘quickly and at affordable cost’ | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93961/salvation-army-questions-ability-government-departments-handle-flagship-house

The Salvation Army’s casting doubts on the ability of government departments to deliver on the Kiwibuild affordable housing programme and is calling for establishment of an expert group to deliver the required houses.

A media statement from the Salvation Army said that “growing uncertainty” over whether Kiwibuild can “reignite the Kiwi dream” of homeownership needs to be countered.

“Recent reports from Treasury and The Chief Executive of New Zealand Certified Builders indicating the programme may not be able to deliver the housing required creates uncertainty for families who see Kiwibuild as their path to homeownership,” the statement said. … read more via hyperlink above …

Westpac economists say the stepping up of Kiwibuild activity will be even ‘more gradual’ than Treasury’s forecasts that have been criticised by the Housing Minister | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93952/westpac-economists-say-stepping-kiwibuild-activity-will-be-even-more-gradual

Westpac economists say the rise in building activity led by Kiwibuild will be only “a slow grind higher”.

In their Weekly Commentary under the heading: ‘Can we build it? Yeah…Nah’, the economists say the ramping up of building activity will be “more gradual than even the Treasury’s forecasts assume”. … read more via hyperlink above …
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May 28, 2018 5:11pm
- GoVege
  
  Anyone know the average size of sections for Kiwi build homes?
  
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  May 28, 2018 5:17pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Are there any???
    
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    May 28, 2018 5:28pm
Awww C-mon

Well, when the first cockie says you ain’t killing my cows, and bloackades himself in, I’ll be bloody keen to go and support him.
Sadly the horse has bolted, and I’d not be kissing generations of genetics down the drain.
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May 28, 2018 5:23pm
- Viking2
  
  Especially as MB is a natural part of a cows bacteria flora. Been here since the first cow.
  What made it rear its head.
  Sugar.
  
  Yep some feeds in the south contained ground up sugar sweets from a local factory.
  Cows luv it but it probably screwed up their immune system. Also exacerbated by feeds from poor pasture, low in minerals and PC.
  
  Seen this sort of thing in boysenberries, kiwifruit, and so on.
  Screw up the natural flora and trouble happens.
  No different is humans.
  
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  May 28, 2018 6:46pm
RW Capitalist

A cow’s annual average production contained 377 kilograms of milksolids (8.9%) in 2014-15, which is what New Zealand’s dairy farmers are paid for,
The New Zealand dairy cow produced on average 4,235 litres of milk last season
In 2014-15 there were just over five million (5.02m) cows producing milk across the country
In 2014-15 dairy companies processed 21.3 billion litres of milk containing 1.89 billion kilograms of milksolids
No. of cows 5.0 million
/av. Heard 419/
Annual Litres/cow 4,235/
Av. milk solids/cow 377
$6.90 / KG of milk solids
So 377Kg milk solids /cow per year
172 000 cow culled or to be culled
Ie 64.844million Kg of milk solids lost to the industry
Ie $447.42million lost, not including the compensation paid to farmers (if it materializes)
After all they recon they’re going to pay the nurses and EXTRA $500mill over the next 2 years ($250mill per year), maybe the farmers will be forced to stand in line?
Just to add some numbers/facts to this govt. created disaster.
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May 28, 2018 5:33pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

A little bit more rocky tonight with Auckland band The Tuesdays and Never Again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xImgtCDed7s
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May 28, 2018 5:56pm
RW Capitalist

1. Re-imagine NCEA Level 1 so it is focused on ensuring young people are prepared for further study, work, and life as citizens
2. Strengthen and clarify our expectations for literacy and numeracy attainment
3. Explicitly build into NCEA Levels 2 and 3 a requirement to prepare young people for further study, work, and life
4. Provide support for teachers, schools, and kura to enable real learning and coherent programmes
5. Strengthen and enhance the Record of Achievement so it provides a full picture of what young people have achieved
6. Remove barriers to achieving NCEA, starting with fees, process for accessing Special Assessment Conditions, and access to quality curriculum support materials.
To sum up
1. Waffle
2. Admit failure, they have no idea how to have kids achieving the “3 R’s” BEFORE they go to 2ndary school. National were starting to improve this even against teacher resistance and sabotage.
This has been a problem that TEACHERS have complained about for decades (that kids “3R’s” are not up to the standard of college) so now we will get them up to speed at college.
3. Already doing that, have since Helen Clarke, so claiming what others have done, as your own. At school, Mr Hipkin’s, that’s called CHEATING.
4. More waffle, that almost admits that teachers aren’t good enough, a bit harsh on most of them there, Mr Hipkins.
5. Make it easier to pass, so teachers look better without having to actually be better.
6. See answer to 5.
This designed to make it EASIER for teachers, turning a profession into a high paying part time job.
Nothing here will produce better 2ndary school “graduates”
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May 28, 2018 6:00pm
UpandComer

Here we go. As stated. Extremely long posts, in parts. This is the first of a series.

“National injustice is the surest road to national downfall”

“There should be a sympathy with freedom, a desire to give it scope, founded not upon visionary ideas, but upon the long experience of many generations within the shores of this happy isle, that in freedom you lay the firmest foundations both of loyalty and order.”

“Censure and criticism never hurt anybody. If false, they can’t hurt you unless you are wanting in manly character; and if true, they show a man his weak points, and forewarn him against failure and trouble.”

– William Gladstone, the lion of England, banned, from the United Stasi Caliphate of New Britain.

First let me preface by saying all of this is not reflective of the NZ context. There is no need to get frenetic or spasmodic in NZ – only to make sure none of the conditions imposed in England are enabled here. As other posters have noted with the imposition of dystopian UN rules masquerading ‘equity’ as speech repression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwitkPBsHdo&t=101s

Here is the arrest – just as a reminder for us about what happened. Watch it close up, zoomed in. Look at his eyes and the set of his jaw when he realises he is powerless and is likely going to die for his political beliefs.

https://www.menofthewest.net/the-murder-of-tommy-robinson-how-britain-became-the-kebab-archipelago/

Reminder: the establishment is bipartisan approving of the rape of the English in England. Naz Shah in the Labour party – their very own Golriz, states the 1million victims of muslim rape in England should ‘shut dere phat mouvs’ for the ‘good of #diversity’ – I can’t think of a more telling and apt tribute for diversity and all it’s intrinsic goods and goodness., or a better agent and diplomat for it

And there stands Judge Geoffrey Marson, laughing uproariously with the two Stasi masquerading as ‘police officers’ as he hands Tommy a death sentence for thought crime. That’s because Kevin Crahan, a man who left a bacon sandwich outside a mosque, who personally knew girls raped by the muslims, was murdered in prison. No one knows how Kevin was murdered. The speculation is that the muslim gangs who run the prison made the guards give them access so they could beat him to death, or inject with a poison the guards allowed in, and then all footage mysteriously disappeared.

So just a little contextualisation of the current state of the social and judicial order in the Quisling state of United Stasi Caliphate of what used to be Britain.
I’m going to have to stagger the content. There is a lot to unpack. But here is today’s contribution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3PImtnJwAM&t=337s
Here is a long video from a guy called Brian in London – he is/was a lawyer, and was one of the core organisers of the English Defence League. What a neo-Nazi looking fellow he is too. With his quizzical slightly bemused demeanour and aspect, his long wavy brown hair. His librarian dress sense. His laconic attitude. His clipped, precise, quietly relaxed posh London tone. His bookish mannerisms. His educated register. What a neo-nazi. Anyone who thinks the rape of 1million English girls by muslims since 1980 can only be Mussolini. Interestingly, he is based in Israel, and is an avowed Zionist. He knows very well the nature of the establishment in England, because he is an exile from it, and wants to save England from it’s islamification for the faction of the ruling class that doesn’t want England to die.

He was friends with Tommy and the other founders. The EDL was a loose organisation, that grew extremely quickly. All the negative reporting is misrepresentative. The best account of the period of the formation and reaction to the EDL is in Tommy’s book ‘Enemy of the State’. It outlines the sustained campaign of government harassment against Tommy which has been ruthless in it’s intensity and intent. That deserves separate treatment. But highlights include multiple attempts to have him killed in prison, including by scalding with boiling water, where he was only saved by tiny coincidences and vagaries of luck, and having his children and wife harassed and assaulted with impunity by Antifa, and his house searched and dismantled over tiny summary offences. I will get that book and read it and report – but it should be reading for any person in New Zealand. The EDL is literally just a party of people in England who think William Gladstone, Edmund Burke, Charles Fox, Winston Churchill and Enoch Powell were British men who existed, reflected British values, and who don’t like little girls being raped like dogs by muslims with the collaboration of the government. That’s what the EDL is. Buy the book, read it. It’s unimaginable that a political party, or even a loose conglomerate of like minded individuals can’t operate in the Israel run state of Stasi Caliphate Britain.

Continuing: One of the other founders was a man called Peter McGlauchlin. He wrote the only book that currently exists on the rape gang phenomenon called ‘Easy Meat’ – it’s still available on Kindle. I suggest buying it before the English government has it memory holed. The book details with the finest set of evidence that the rapes have been ongoing for 40 years. Back in 2010, the EDL had forums where parents could post looking for their daughters – those sites have been destroyed by the government, down the memory hole.
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May 28, 2018 6:22pm
- stephieboy
  
  UpandComer , just one example of the empty bombast and the worst kind o hyperbole that peppers your post ,
  
  The last official execution in the United Kingdom took place in 1964, but today a man was arrested and “sentenced to death in England.”
  
  His crime? According to the Crown Court at Leeds, we’re not allowed to tell you. Here’s how His Dishonor Judge Marson managed to quash all UK reporting on what is very likely to amount to judicial murder:
  
  Utter balderdash !!
  
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  May 28, 2018 6:45pm
  - kevn
    
    go back to sleep septicboy
    
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    May 28, 2018 6:53pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    What is your view of those who perpetuated these heinous acts on 1 million British girls Stephieboy? I don’t see a lot of denouncement on your part; rather puerile attacks on those who speak in support of those challenging what genuinely has already been proven a mass cover up of the most repugnant nature. Do you hate women?
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:26pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Too bloody long. Bugger off.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:42pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  Great post.
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:38pm
UpandComer

Peter and Tommy also co-authored a book called ‘Mohamad’s Koran’ – the entire text with a 100 page introduction. The only difference is that he re-ordered the Koran into chronological order. His book goes from the last back to the earliest – Islamic rules of abrogation states that earlier things are countermanded and replaced by later parts – later parts are more important then the beginning. That’s important, because the early parts of the Koran cited by liars engaged in Kitman and Taqiyya are relatively peaceful. The later passages which supersede those parts are pure injunctions to and of violence and rape. That’s is Mohammad’s war-lord persona. I’m going to buy that book. Tommy Robinson is quite an able man to write such a book. Not the working class hooligan of Pier Morgan’s fevered dreams.
Tommy was nabbed over a court case from May 2017. A Canterbury case where he showed up outside to take pictures of defendendants. He was incensed people were walking the streets of Canterbury, for child torture rape, and no one knew it was happening. In England there are restrictions on reportage during trials to avoid jury prejudice by extraneous material to that allowed in the court. That is the basic structure, and you can be held in contempt.
However the case Tommy was reporting on had particular rules. Those rules were in s41 of the Criminal Justice Act of 1925. The provisions in 1925 incorporated an offence of taking a photograph in a court. As photography had only just been invented and developed to the degree of mobile photography able to be performed in court. Reading the 2017 judgment containing Tommy’s suspended sentence, it was agreed that Tommy WASN’T IN THE COURT, he was just vaguely cited as ‘being in the vicinity’. And he was hit with a sentence by the judge using draconian inherent powers of the court so he couldn’t contest. But he wasn’t ‘inside’ sufficiently to trigger the provisions. But they were applied anyway.
What happened to him then was unprecedented. He was live streaming and branded the defendants as guilty improperly – he didn’t state it was an alleged offence or the trial was ongoing, but he complied with the court’s will as fast as he could by shutting down the stream. But then what happened. He was raided at 4 in the morning, taken from his bed in front of his wife and children, and imprisoned. That has never ever happened in the history of England for a journalist making a mistake. Jouranlists in the UK regularly impute guilt to white people for crimes that fit their narrative of a cringing muslim minority being oppressed. Yet they never receive punishment, let alone a Gestapo abduction. The judge acknowledged that Tommy was acting consistently with advice he had received from other courts about what he could and couldn’t do. The judge admitted that Tommy wasn’t given a fair warning that the behaviour that was appropriate in one case, wouldn’t be according to his own rulings.
It’s unknown if the judge ordered a 4am raid for a journalist who make a mistake. But it’s unlikely. That’s for drug dealers, pimps, and murders who might leave. So it’s very likely the order came from higher up in the Tory ‘government’. He was tried and convicted, and had decent legal representation provided by Ezra Levant and Rebel Media. The actual case was decided and embargoed until the muslim case was decided – where the muslims were imprisoned for long periods for raping girls in their chicken shop like chickens.
That was how Tommy received a 3 month suspended sentence for a journalistic error that didn’t prejudice the commission of the trial. The trial was not prejudiced. No one is sure about appeals. Interestingly Brian in London notes that court reporting in England has died in relation to pedophilia and rape cases. You can’t see now if there have been appeals, or what is being stated. They’ve shut it down. They always shut it down.
So that’s how Tommy received a 3 month suspended sentence under s41 of the Criminal Justice Act 1925 for standing outside a court when the offence provision only punishes standing inside the court. 3 months imprisonment for journalism.
The judge’s ruling is unclear – it doesn’t say how the suspended sentence would be employed. If he got an indictable driving offence – would that trigger it? The judge did go on to say, full quote, and it does sound prima facie damning for Tommy:
“I would have thought a further contempt of court by similar actions then that sentence of 3 months would be activated, and that would be on top of anything else you were given by any other court. In short, mr Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as muslim rapists, muslim pedophiles, while a trial is ongoing, and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside, do you understand”.
In the stream above, Tommy was being extremely careful to obey these directions. He said only alleged. He said ‘under trial’.
The case he was outside of was complex – it was split into three sections. One trial had already taken place, verdicts were secret. Second trial had taken place, verdicts were given, but were kept secret and the sentencing was secret. Tommy wanted to find out what the sentences were. Were they 10 years? Were they trips to Disneyland? Were they 6 months? So that these torture rapists would be pillaging the Kaffir again within the year? There is a third trial to happen later this year which is also secret.
That means a very very large trial, in a very large Northern town, is kept out of the papers. The names of the defendants could be found on the court docket website – in Leeds. All ‘Mohamad, Sarim, Afsaan, Asif, Huzaifa, etc’. The information as clearly in the public domain – it was on the fucking court website. You could on the website while Tommy was standing there and find the names. So it can’t be reading out the names that matters.
The press in the Uk could report, but they don’t like reporting on trials of muslims raping non-muslim children.
Easy Meat is all about that – a former UK government minister used the term ‘Easy Meat’ in an interview. He talked about ‘Pakistani’ and ‘Bangladeshi’ – but it’s not race based – but ideology based. The only common element to the child rapists be they from Syria, or Yemen, or Pakistan, or Somalia or France fucking lol, or South West Africa is islam. The minister was asked ‘why’ – because they regard non-muslim children as easy meat.
The press avoided talking about it for years. The first reporter to talk about it in the Sunday Times was Andrew Norfolk. He expressed regret. He knew it had been going on for years. He was sidelined and pilloried for speaking out. Just like Sarah Champion the Labour MP for Rotherham citing the conservative million girls number was fired and threatened with imprisonment, and also threatened by muslims with rape and murder.
The evidence is all in ‘Easy Meat’ on Amazon.
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May 28, 2018 6:24pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  “The only difference is that he re-ordered the Koran into chronological order.”
  
  A very important achievement. Without this, one can’t understand abrogation and thus how deceptive the cherry-picking of early (abrogated) sura actually are.
  
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  May 28, 2018 7:31pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Absolutely – and not the achievement of an unlettered man unworthy of respect, not just for his courage and bravery, but for his scholarship.
    
    I probably couldn’t write a 100 page analysis of the Koran and re-order it. That would be a monumental and extremely dangerous undertaking. Yet here is Robinson, being disparaged and defamed and derided by the (((Establishment))) in England for being a ‘hooligan’.
    
    He’s smarter then the whole pack of rats. They’re just more rat cunning and they collaborate instead of instigate and stand up for British values.
    
    I’m fucking irate.
    
    Write to National MP’s. Write to the British High Commission in Thorndon I believe on Hill Street. Send them Korans. Ask them to give the Korans an autograph with a picture of some of the raped of Rotherham.
    
    Write to the British embassy. Ask them, politely, to pack up, and leave New Zealand, being alien from rule of law and the commonwealth, ruled by a descendent of Mohammad, their future sovereign a Jew.
    
    Make people from the United Kingdom embarrassed to the core of their being for their grubby, dirty, conniving, Stasi little Caliphate.
    
    If you’re from the United Kingdom, get out of New Zealand. Take your miserable craven law by feelings and go find a filth patch in London to squat in. Just try to dodge all the blades and grasping muslim rape fingers whilst you cry out about your feelings.
    
    The United Kingdom is the worst country in the world. At least in Haiti they have sense of street honour and they are forced into ferality by poverty. Not in the UK.
    
    Fuck the English establishment. This is freedom of speech you glistening Uriah Heap Mongs.
    
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    May 28, 2018 7:44pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  Outstanding post.
  
  Bravo
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:24pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    With Reid having movee to pastures new, UpandComer is quickly establishing himself as Kiwiblogs best and most informative Commentator
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:28pm
- V
  
  He wasn’t ‘in the court’ in 2017, but he was in the court building, and he was trying to film the defendants. The only reason he didn’t succeed was court security was aware of his plans and the judge had to intervene and change things by way of different entrances. For this he was clearly in contempt of court.
  
  I have alot of sympathy for his current predicament, the seeming swiftness of his re-jailing and disgust at the MSM for not properly covering these current trials, but he should of been more aware of the legal parameters he was operating under.
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:37pm
UpandComer

The evidence of cover-ups in every single town is incontrovertible.

The response was always ‘the girls incited it’. It would start with gifts – chicken in the chicken shop, jewellery, food. Then alcohol and drugs. Then they’d ask for photos, touching etc then very quickly rape. The girls in Rotherham spoke of being raped by 30 men in one night. Note the tale of ‘Alex’ in the Rotherham Royal Commission Report. Raped by three separate muslim mobs, in three separate locations. Once in a taxi by the driver and the muslim passenger. Then ejected from the moving car. Again, by another groups that offered to take her to the hospital. Then again, by another group that said they’d call the police. Her life destroyed, in the space of an evening in New Britain.

There is a table on Peter McGlauchlin’s website that gives names – that gives the statistic that 90% of the people convicted of child rape are muslim. Quillian, Majeed Niwaaz’s organisation found exactly the same result – 90% committed by muslims. The only common feature is adherence to Islamic ideology.

Easy Meat has a whole chapter on the Islamic roots of the crime. When Peter wrote the first edition, it came out before ISIS and Boko Haram – who behaved exactly the same way muslims have behaved in British towns for 40 years, with the same Islamic justifications. This can all be cross checked by looking at defences given in British courts with the statements of the terrorists in the ISIS and Boko Haram caliphates in Iraq and Darfur.

In England it is a business – it went beyond pleasure. These men were running businesses, where most occurred. The girls having been despoiled and destroyed psychologically were transported all over the country as chattel for the enjoyment of others. That’s how rape occurred in places without large muslim populations. Which raises an interesting point in and of itself. In such a vast network, how many members of (((government))) and (((media))) are implicated?

Additionally, why did none of the muslim communities in towns where they were a smaller population say anything? They just raped merrily away as if it was the casual discourse of religious business of a Friday. You can see hints of this on the BBC documentary ‘3 girls’ – which they only ran because a couple of the girls weren’t white – the (((BBC))) found about the only non-white girls they could find in this ocean of rape, and ran a story on them.

Tommy went to a court to cover material the press won’t cover.

What is so perverse is that it is impossible to even find out what the court reporting restrictions fucking ARE. Because the (((BBC))) and the other (((Media))) won’t even state that – which is beyond the scope of injunctions. There is no website you can refer to which tells you what you are allowed to say about a case in Leeds. There is no resource.

So Tommy was arrested by the Stasi Gestapo for breaking rules that WEREN’T PUBLISHED OR AVAILABLE because the media wants to stop journalism.

What Tommy was doing, was within the bounds of legality. He didn’t infer guilt. He asked questions and took photos which he is allowed to do. We have seen thousands of photos of people led into court, justin Beiber, Kanye.

The case last year in Canterbury literally established a Tommy Robinson line of cases. There is one rule for all, and the Tommy Robinson law. He was jailed within five hours under Tommy Robinson exemptions to normal UK laws.
He was taken off the streets. Conflicting information was given to people around him.

Here is what happens in a first world country with a functioning judicial system. You get arrested. They get information out of you. Then you’re either released or remanded. Then you’re given a court date. For that court you prepare. You get a lawyer. Review the facts. Get info from the prosecution and present a defence. In Tommy’s case they didn’t let him choose a lawyer who knew the earlier Canterbury case or him at all. At best someone ignorant and incapable of dealing with a technical case, more likely one of their people on the take. He got no lawyer. No time. No due process at all for a reasonable carriage of justice.

It was in front of the same judge who already had said he didn’t like him.

His ‘lawyer’ was given no time to prepare, if he even had one.

Who knows at this point.

He was given an absolutely draconian ten month sentence. Some of these child rapists actually get less then because of parole and muslim community pressure.

Tommy was tried and convicted under conditions that don’t apply to anyone in the UK. The courts, police, local Leeds councils, national government, all the way to (((May)) were involved.

May is the Quisling who banned Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer being able to enter Britain, whilst she has allowed and is paying for 25,000 ex ISIS fighters to suck on the Taxpayers white teat in England. Whether she’s doing it to terrorise the English, or just to bankrupt them at this stage is unclear. Labour of course are no better. Labour counsellors are before the courts for joining in on the rapes in England – here is a referral to the only story that has been allowed to be released on Instapundit:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/62397/councillors-and-police-had-sex-with-rotherham-abuse-victims

It’s probably Theresa May directing the affairs.

The only thing that will keep Robinson alive is international pressure.

Tell everyone you know in NZ from the UK about what is happening. Write to the British High Commission and ask them to be honest, and put the Hammer and Sickle of a communist Caliphate on their flag, before they pack up, and slink away leaving a slimy trail out of a first world country like New Zealand.

Write to the British embassies. Write to your members of parliament. Tell everyone you know about the Holocaust of rape inflicted upon the English by the muslims and their government.
It’s headlining on Drudge.

Fuck the English establishment twice and thrice and four times over.

Those Quislings all need to go back to Israel.

You can’t quote Gladstone in the House of Commons. You can’t quote Churchill in Whitehall. You can’t carry a Koran in the streets of Britain, without a pile of establishment bodies setting themselves before it to pile underneath it, lest if fall and touch their dirtiness which exceeds even the London filth.

The disease of an evil conscience is beyond the practice of all the physicians of all the countries in the would.

William E. Gladstone.

This is extremely serious stuff.

The United Kingdom is going to be the enemy of the West within a generation.
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May 28, 2018 6:32pm
- stephieboy
  
  UpandComer ,
  
  “The evidence of cover-ups in every single town is incontrovertible”
  
  This one ?
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidmouth
  
  “Those Quislings all need to go back to Israel”
  
  “Lets blame the Jews . eh ?
  
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  May 28, 2018 6:50pm
  - kevn
    
    go back to sleep septicboy
    
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    May 28, 2018 6:58pm
  - UpandComer
    
    No I’m blaming the perpetrators and I’m blaming the British establishment. As I just said, Brian London is a Zionist Jew who has taken refuge from the ‘English’ in Israel. So it’s not ‘blame the Jews’. You cretin.
    
    Way to demonstrate the Piers Morgan approach to wrong-doing – focus on the outrage of the just, victimise the perpetrators.
    
    I see the Italian government was denied it’s ability to form. President Mattarella vetoed the formation of a government because he, on behalf of the crypto-pedos in the EU, disapproved of an Italian finance minister, Paolo Savona who the Italians support but the crypto-pedos don’t.
    
    Now, the government elect of Matteo Salvini must call new elections.
    
    One can only imagine the Italians for Italy will receive a larger share of the vote.
    
    Maybe if this time, the Italians send the EU Brussels government the heads of their representatives in Italy and expels not just 500,000 African rapists from Italian shores, but all of them, the EU Crypto-pedos will understand, no one wants their grand tower of Babel in Europe.
    
    There you go Stephieboy. Take heart. It’s all happening for you. So unfortunate and reprehensible.
    
    Italy! No!
    
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    May 28, 2018 7:01pm
    - stephieboy
      
      UpandComer , is this the same Tommy Robinson jailed for 10 months for illegally using someone’s else’s passport entering the United States?
      
      EDL leader Stephen Lennon jailed for false passport offence
      
      http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-20935502
      
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      May 28, 2018 7:12pm
      - UpandComer
        
        Lol he used a different passport? People are allowed to change their name. If he was unjustly denied access to the US for some reason, I can’t blame him for wanting freedom of movement given to actual ISIS murderers by liberals and democrats in Canada and the United States, Australia and England.
        
        So you say a 2013 passport misdemeanour justifies a Stasi Caliphate.
        
        There are 25,000 ISIS fighters in England sucking on the taxpayers teat who don’t even have passports. Or even worse, were actually given fucking passports by ((May)) and ((Cameron)).
        
        The ‘grimdark’ ‘crimes’ asserted by the British establishment were related to missed mortgage payments after they conducted a Stasi Mueller investigation.
        
        I can’t even imagine what we’d find if one investigated YOU. One can only guess a lot of Goat hair in places that it shouldn’t be. Maybe even more serious things. If you had your, way, society would allow that.
        
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        May 28, 2018 7:21pm
      - kevn
        
        go back to sleep septic boy
        
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        May 28, 2018 8:22pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Too bloody long again. Bugger off again.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:43pm
UpandComer

Tomorrow I’m going to list all the towns I can currently find proceedings for the rape of the English in – A through Z. It will be barely touching the surface, but it’s taking a long time to get through the list.
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May 28, 2018 6:37pm
- stephieboy
  
  UpandComer, keep up the drivel!
  
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  May 28, 2018 6:55pm
  - kevn
    
    go back to sleep septicboy
    
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    May 28, 2018 6:59pm
  - UpandComer
    
    I wouldn’t show my face in Italy if I were you Stephie. They don’t like what happened to Pamela Mastropietro. I really, really wouldn’t say a word in front of a Calabrese.
    
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    May 28, 2018 7:13pm
    - stephieboy
      
      UpandComer, are you on a hotline to them?
      
      The Women Who Took on the Mafia
      
      Family loyalty made the Calabrian Mob strong, but its treatment of women was its undoing.
      
      https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/01/22/the-women-who-took-on-the-mafia
      
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      May 28, 2018 7:16pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Women reporting on rape is ‘drivel’ to Stephieboy.
    
    That’s where things stand now: it’s far-right to oppose rape and pedophilia, and to report that it happened is ‘drivel’.
    
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    May 28, 2018 7:36pm
    - kevn
      
      @Classic… septicboy hasn’t got a clue. End of story.
      
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      May 28, 2018 8:24pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        Stephieboy is dead against Sharia Law.
        Ralph made that clear in a post.
        Mr Taylor is a misguided Fabian, Socialist, handwringer ,who loves a good troll to fill in the day and the odd reading at St Albans.
        
        When the juices are flowing he can often be seen descending into the Yoga Pantry for a perve and a quick wack in the publics.
        
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        May 28, 2018 10:48pm
Viking2

Another working Group. (oops’ sorry, a task force no less.)

Task force to be set up to look at Holiday Act changes
The Government is set to announce the formation of a task force to review the Holidays Act after it emerged employers had not been complying with the act on holiday pay for years, leaving thousands of workers out of pocket.

Workplace Relations Minister Iain Lees-Galloway will make an announcement tomorrow in relation to the Holidays Act. It is understood he will announce the formation of a task force to look at how the act can be simplified.

Further details of the focus of the task force will be announced tomorrow but a source said the “magnitude of the problem” had forced the Government to act.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12060057

something the dumb Nats should have done years back. That’s why they are not the Govt. Failure to fix the simple shit.
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May 28, 2018 6:38pm
Viking2

CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — The Australian government announced Monday that the Senate will vote in June on cutting corporate tax rates after an opinion poll suggested the contentious reform had popular public support.

and here is another.

The leader of a crucial minor party said she was reassessing her opposition to proposed tax cuts in light of the polling, rekindling government hopes of achieving a key policy promise at the last election in 2016.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s conservative coalition wants to cut the corporate tax rate by 5 percent to 25 percent by 2026-27,

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12060260
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May 28, 2018 6:39pm
rangitoto

So Taxinda is planning to kill 150,000 cows. She shouldn’t make a visit to India any time soon.
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May 28, 2018 6:41pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Brilliant, beat her with her own PC, culturally insensitive sanctimony stick.
  
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  May 28, 2018 6:47pm
nasska

One of the excuses being utilised by the Left is Robinson’s criminal record. It is true that he has a record for assault & some mortgage scam preceding the 3 month suspended ‘gagging order’ sentence. Pushing this is supposed to make him appear as a criminal rather than a martyr.

Instead look at the man as a symbol of a lonely protest against the Islamisation of the Western world. Whoever the man is unimportant…..it’s his message that we must take on board before it’s too late!
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May 28, 2018 6:43pm
UpandComer

I’ll also do a reprise with proper spacing in the second section tomorrow.

This – this is what free speech is. I’m confident their tentacle grasp can’t reach NZ. This is what the English can’t say in the home of what used to be English liberty. I hope, that somewhere in the hearts of the same Englishmen who completed the 1688 revolution, is the same sort of defiance that Churchill exhibited:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnYLmqMIyi4

– That is England. England is not a Stasi Caliphate. It’s not a muslim rape victim.

“Here is my first principle of foreign policy: good government at home”;

“Good laws make it easier to do right and harder to do wrong”;

“The oppression of a majority is detestable and odious; the oppression of a minority is only by one degree less detestable and odious”.

No wonder the new bugmen and new Dhimmis of New Britain want to ban Gladstone. He’s English.

No wonder.

If Tommy dies, let the English establishment find out it’s not just Muslims willing to die for principles.

What an absurd situation.

There you go KevN
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May 28, 2018 6:54pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  ” I’m confident their tentacle grasp can’t reach NZ.”
  
  I wish! What makes you think that, though? European-style ‘hate speech’ laws are right up CoL’s alley. Then nobody could criticise islam.
  
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  May 28, 2018 7:41pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Well. We can stop them.
    
    This is what the stupid children don’t understand. These laws can be turned. Easily.
    
    Also, they won’t betray their LGBTQI core vote.
    
    Because here’s the thing – if British men can be arrested for reporting on the rape of British children by muslims, what of ‘gay’ British children raped by muslims?
    
    What about when the muslim clerics can’t control their cohorts and they start shiving gays walking about Leeds and Scumthorpe?
    
    If I was homosexual, I’d be extremely concerned about Tommy Robinson. If they’ll kill a white man in Prison, I wonder what they’ll do to a gay white man in prison?
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:05pm
KevOB

How many cows are there in NZ?
Greens will be over the moon. The economic losses will be horrendous and most of the culled farms will be unlikely to recover. Farmers don’t have pots of gold to re-establish themselves nor do many have the resilience to be able to sail through this wild slaughter. Mental health is going to predominate the rural sector. Who can guarantee that this will not be repeated? Who can assure NZ that the Greens did not participate in bringing disease into the country. Drastic measures deserve drastic answer.

This is the most irresponsible decision made by the COL so far. Is it lawful? Is the govt lawful?
They weren’t elected on ideology but to govern according to the existing social contract and that means excising a duty of care to the nation. Has the PM’s baby brain already affected her reasoning capacity?

Winding up NZ has no mandate.
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May 28, 2018 7:01pm
- nasska
  
  It’s economic treason! A conservative estimate of the damage done to the NZ economy is $2.5 (oil & gas) + $1 (aluminium) + $2.8 (dairy) = $6.3 billion.
  
  And that’s only the last couple of months. Then we still have to finance the Giveathon of throwing funds at teachers, nurses & bludging welfare bennies.
  
  The sums are just not going to add up!
  
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  May 28, 2018 7:13pm
  - ex-golfer
    
    I’d imagine the $11.7bn hole is now a distant dream in Robertson’s mind.
    It’s probably ticked over $20bn by now and growing by the day.
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:36pm
  - Que Sera Sera
    
    Nasska, how about sending your $2.8 billion diary bill to your beloved National Party, in particular to Nathan Guy.
    
    He should never be given another ministerial portfolio, ever.
    He needs to pack up his desk and head back to the sticks, he is that useless.
    
    And that about sums up the last three years of all the National ministers, they became plain bloody lazy.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:27pm
    - V
      
      Sadly true, they ran out of ideas (if they had any new ones to begin with) and were hung in the election by the obvious social issues they failed to address despite having the resources to do so, leaving us with the current motley crew of greater incompetancy.
      
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      May 28, 2018 11:41pm
- JibberJabber
  
  It would not surprise me if some of the radically feral Greens are behind the introduction of this disease and/or its spread, it`s not like they don`t have form for this type of action.
  I notice the SmirkMeister Shaw has been keeping a low profile on this issue.
  
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  May 28, 2018 7:23pm
  - Que Sera Sera
    
    What form are you yapping on about JJ ?
    
    It is more like another piece of fiction from you.
    
    Fiction and rumour’s are your specialty.
    
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    May 28, 2018 7:47pm
- Que Sera Sera
  
  For Christ sake, to start with this situation is not of the coalitions making one little bit.
  Next, this decision has been made by the whole industry, farmers included.
  
  Yes it is going to be tough, but blame the last useless Government who sat on their fat arse’s and let it happen.
  
  KOB, you just make a fool of yourself with stupid statements like that.
  
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  May 28, 2018 7:57pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104269651/serious-crash-blocks-road-near-palmerston-north

The driver was 15. He died.
The passenger was 12. She died.
The driver was on bail for several previous serious driving offences earlier this year.
What the hell is wrong with this country ?
When will parents of these children be held responsible and subjected to the full force of the law?
Who the hell would let their 12-year old kid go anywhere with ferals like this ?
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May 28, 2018 7:33pm
- nasska
  
  Wait for the tangi. Then we’ll find out how much the kid was loved & the joy she brought everyone.
  
  It’s just that no one had the time to bring her up.
  
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  May 28, 2018 7:47pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  We are repeatedly told that jails don’t work, and that youth justice residential units are gateways to jail, but I can’t help thinking that if this young man had been detained in a secure unit somewhere instead of being out on bail, then he and his 12 year-old passenger might be alive this evening.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:13pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Right MW a little time in custody on bail is as effective as the old kick in the backside from the sergeant back in the day. Now days just being locked up for short time without their toys and empty pockets will at least be a deterrent for some.
    
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    May 28, 2018 9:27pm
- ex-golfer
  
  Darwinism in action.
  Now – I’ll await to see the parents prosecuted for neglect……I won’t hold my breath.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:34pm
- Piniwi
  
  Expect greybeard it would have come as a bit of a shock to the parents. It was a stolen car so they might have only been aware of it from the news and their involvement when there was a knock at the door. Another strike for a bailed offender and sadly taking the life of his young passenger with another seriously injured. What a sad ending.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:22pm
EAD_TWO

Andrew Joyce with a great tweet:

https://twitter.com/AJoyceTOQ/status/1000801234964635648

Multiculturalism comes so naturally to British interests that it’s proponents have to jail people for tweeting and posting on Facebook [Lawrence Burns], singing songs [Alison Chabloz], discussing Zionist influence [Jez Turner], and standing outside rape trials [Tommy Robinson].

Don’t forget teaching your Dog to do new tricks:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/youtuber-count-dankula-found-guilty-of-hate-crime-for-teaching-pet-pug-nazi-salute-a3794926.html
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May 28, 2018 7:41pm
EAD_TWO

In the Islam vs. Tommy Robinson case, British Jews have chosen their side. Here is the Jewish Voice UK:

https://twitter.com/J_VoiceUK/status/1000735680845221889

Tommy Robinson is a criminal & prison is the correct place for him but his followers are organizing & are even more dangerous than him so we all need to get to work, think & work out a strategy to defeat this new far-right. We cant sleep with this new growing threat #JeSuisMuslim

Why do Jews want a guy exposing child rape gangs thrown in prison so badly? Why do Jews endorse the mass, industrial scale rape of White British children and want those complaining about it locked up?
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May 28, 2018 8:10pm
- UpandComer
  
  Did they actually say ‘JesuisMuslim’.
  
  That’s a degree of victimisation of the perpetrators and punishment of the outrage of the just that I can’t quite even fathom.
  
  JeSuisMuslim.
  
  It doesn’t mean what they think it means.
  
  JeSuisTheRapeoftheOneMillion
  
  I think it’s time to start putting emphasis on the Holocaust of rape of the English in England.
  
  And the rape of their free speech.
  
  JeSuisMuslim indeed.
  
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  May 28, 2018 8:23pm
  - nasska
    
    The Jews have no love of the far Right but they have absolutely no idea of what the phrase means. Nazis who understandably are their sworn enemies were socialists. Tommy Robinson’s only crime is highlighting the actions of the rapey, paedophile Muslims. He is only Right in the sense that he isn’t one of the Leftist enablers of radical Islam.
    
    The Jews are getting to be as bad as the Left. They sense a feeling getting hurt then open their traps & let the Norwester blow their tongues around!
    
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    May 28, 2018 8:32pm
    - UpandComer
      
      The descendents of Disraeli have abused his legacy. I think it’s time that the adherents of Gladstone were given voice in their own country.
      
      These people cry and caterwaul and connive and militate and agitate to bring in every single muslim they can possibly find, and reward the people covering up the rape with coins – I will be posting that tomorrow.
      
      Since when was it ‘Right’ to stand up for the Holocaust of 1 million raped little girls and boys, to seek free speech, to seek justice, to want to be able to free from the legacy of the NKVD, Beria, and Yagoda apparatus that slaughered millions of Russian in your own country.
      
      Since when was it Right not to want to be arrested at Dawn for covering the rape of your friends’ daughters in your own fucking towns.
      
      Imprisoned without trial. Before no jury. With every trace of your existence and your abduction removed from the annals of memory.
      
      They memory hole us in our own countries now in real time. They seek the punishment of the outrage of the just and victimise the perpetrators. Because they are the perpetrators.
      
      JeSuisMuslim. JeSuisRapeofthe1millionEnglish.
      
      Churchills mother was Jewish. But he’d wish no part of this current crop of Quislings.
      
      This is England:
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Xkr8z3lEo
      
      A Christian nation.
      
      Not a muslim nation ruled by Jews with an iron fist.
      
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      May 28, 2018 8:52pm
      - UpandComer
        
        They reward the Holocaust of rape of 1 million of the English with ‘JeSuisMuslim’ even as they pass laws which imprison the English for 15 years for true statements about Israel.
        
        They punish any accusation of the truth of their actions in militating for the mass immigration of the rapists of Britain, with up to 15 years imprisonment.
        
        Now they send their cronies and their secret police to arrest people in the streets trying to report on the rape torturers of their friends and countrymen in their own towns.
        
        How fucking dare they say ‘JeSuisMuslim’.
        
        Churchill’s mother was Jewish. But this is not his England. This is not her or his England.
        
        This is an England of Yagoda and the Bolshevik Stasi in league with stinking illiterate raping Imams, terrorising and oppressing loyal and kind British subjects.
        
        Then oozing ‘JeSuisMuslim’.
        
        I have no words.
        
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        May 28, 2018 8:59pm
      - stephieboy
        
        UpabndComwe I can’t find any reference to the fact that Lady Randolph Church was Jewish,
        
        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/non_fictionreviews/3670257/Winston-Churchills-American-mother.html
        
        Please assist?
        
        Has Stephen Lennon alias Tommy Robinson been convicted for his current offence?
        
        Which Gulag has he been sent to/
        
        Wormwood scrubs or that facility for the criminally insane, Broadmoor?
        
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        May 28, 2018 10:17pm
      - Jack5
        
        UpandComer, you repeat a lie when you post that Churchill’s mother was Jewish, which, of course would mean Winston Churchill was a Jew. Lady Randolph Churchill, nee Jerome, wasn’t Jewish.
        
        It wouldn’t matter if she were, except for your words in the post:”…muslim nation ruled by Jews with an iron fist.”
        
        I’m surprised when Nazi sympathisers smear Jews on Kiwiblog, which is hosted by a DPF, who is partly of Jewish descent. He is admirably tolerant.
        
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        May 28, 2018 10:23pm
      - UpandComer
        
        I don’t repeat a lie:
        
        https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/world/europe/11iht-winston.4873300.html
        
        I actually read this article saying that Churchill was ‘anti-semitic’.
        
        This incensed me so I went looking for proof he ‘isn’t’. Or ‘wasn’t’.
        
        I read it in the Jerusalem Post that was archived somewhere – claim was by a guy called Moshe Kohn.
        
        Kohn said that Churchill’s mother was originally called Jenny Jerome, then changed to Jenny Jacobson, and had the lineage from the Huegenots. I think Boris Johnson also made the claim in his biography. But it’s completely immaterial.
        
        I was trying to find information to show that he WASN’T ‘anti-semitic’. Because I ‘like Churchill’.
        
        It’s neither here, nor there. I don’t care if he was or wasn’t.
        
        But I didn’t ‘lie’ and if I’m wrong – okay, that’s fine. It makes no difference to my points. I don’t care! Why is it a ‘thing’.
        
        Yes DPF is great – that’s the point. It’s not about animus to people, only to actions. DPF himself has been the victim of scurrilous actions – someone even stole material from his workplace, and he’s been harrassed. That’s reprehensible. The point is, DPF wouldn’t support a guy getting arrested with no due process for trying to be a journalist in England! Because DPF has profoundly decent principles believes in free speech, believes in clean rule of law, and believes in the truth.
        
        The people in England who rule, clearly don’t care. It’s the behaviour I’m upset with. It just so happens that there is a consistency in the adherents of the behaviour, it seems.
        
        One guy I am getting information from ihappens to be an Israeli in Israel seeking refuge from persecution in England by his own people! How much more obvious can it be that the focus is on behaviour, not identity?
        
        Don’t Cathy Freeman me.
        
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        May 28, 2018 10:55pm
      - Jack5
        
        There is no suggestion in the New York Times article to which you link that Winston Churchill’s mother was Jewish.
        
        You quote some mysterious article saying Churchill’s mother was both Jewish and descended from Huguenots, who of course, were the banished Protestants of France. It’s obviously bullshit.
        
        Sorry, I don’t understand what to “Cathy Freeman” someone means.
        
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        May 28, 2018 11:11pm
All_on_Red

Tommy Robinson at the Oxford Debate
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GyzGayfI400

Worth watching if you hadn’t seen it as it explains why he’s on the journey he’s undertaken.
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May 28, 2018 8:49pm
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red , and changing his name on the same journey as well as committing various offences.
  
  Yeah Right!
  
  How dd you long icy shower go?
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:07pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘icy shower’?
    You really burble incomprehensible rubbish eh Ralph
    You’re so thick aren’t you stalker
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:33pm
ex-golfer

Twitfords foot has met his mouth again.
Straight from the “how to win friends and influence people” – he’s happy to create slums, and people that don’t like it should just leave.
Has he been reading Mein Kampf?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104193297/phil-twyford-rules-out-statesponsored-gentrification-in-auckland
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May 28, 2018 9:05pm
UpandComer

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Look at his face.

Imagine your own when they arrest you for criticising Israel in England and there are no cameras to see. No international audience to take note, only muslims to jeer and laugh as they rape your daughters to the cheers of ‘JeSuisMuslim’.
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May 28, 2018 9:18pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  The Jews and their #JesusisMuslim hashtag really is revealing isn’t it?
  
  No sympathy at all for the hundreds of thousands of little girls raped on an industrial scale.
  
  As they get Alison Chabloz and Jeremy Bedford Turner banged up for word crimes, they really show their spite & hatred for the ordinary British person with their #JesusisMuslim hashtag. Just how bloody insensitive can one be?
  
  Just watch as they will once again show their lack of selfawareness by blaming people’s reaction on a mind virus called anti-semitism rather than being a result of people’s disgust with their actions and insensitivity.
  
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  May 28, 2018 9:40pm
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD TWO,
    
    “No sympathy at all for the hundreds of thousands of little girls raped on an industrial scale.”
    
    Rather like the blood libel claiming Jews drank the blood of little Christian children at passover, eh?
    
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/blood-libel
    
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    May 28, 2018 10:03pm
    - sooty
      
      You are up late stephie, whats your excuse?
      
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      May 28, 2018 10:11pm
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Stephieboy,
      
      Will you be attending next weekend’s NZANS conference in downtown Auckland?
      
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      May 28, 2018 11:22pm
Captain Mainwaring

I was away for a couple of hours and came back to find Hugh had posted some drivel at 5: something. I reported him twice and ‘bang’ he was gone.
Thanks to those who did their duty in my absence.
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May 28, 2018 9:50pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  You should go and work for the UK government.?
  
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  May 28, 2018 11:11pm
UpandComer

Je Suis Muslims.

What is one to do with the spectacle of ‘Je Suis Muslims’ when a man who reminds of guys I went to school with is arrested, taken before a sham court and imprisoned within minutes according to the latest leaks, with the hopes he’ll die in prison for reporting about the rape of 1 million British girls with the collaboration of the British government who are Je Suis Jewish?

Can you imagine what it would be like if the next Palestinian driven insane by the conditions of their concentration camp in Gaza, his relatives machine gunned like grass just for wanting a better life in Israel blew up some Jewish kids, and everyone in New Zealand said;

JeSuisMuslim.

Do our genius fellow people of the book have no depths to the craven contempt they have for us? Our ‘Nobel peace prize winners’ who haven’t won a single one since the Swiss changed the head of the deliberating panel to a non-‘JeSuisMuslim’.

The people they let into Britain over years raped 1 million British girls. The rapes are still happening. They are still covering up the rapes. Now they arrest people in the streets like Yagoda’s stasi and then they say:

JeSuisMuslim.

No empathy. No common cause. No thanks for their position. Just ‘JeSuisMuslim’ – punishment of the outrage of the just and victimisation of the perpetrators.

Sorry I’ll stop. I’m just terrified that England is now North Korea. in terms of it’s judicial system.
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May 28, 2018 10:29pm
- Jack5
  
  Yagoda’s Stasi? Yagoda was head of Stalin’s NKVD until 1937, when he was shot.
  
  The Stasi, the East German secret police force, was set up in 1950.
  
  Where did you get the “… the hopes he’ll die in prison,” from? Presumably you are referring to Tommy Robinson.
  
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  May 28, 2018 10:38pm
  - UpandComer
    
    I got it based on the information I’ve learned now from videos reviewing ‘Enemy of the State’ and also from the Bacon sandwich murder:
    
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4075328/Man-jailed-leaving-bacon-sandwiched-outside-mosque-dead-prison-half-way-12-month-sentence.html
    
    That’s where.
    
    Anyway, enough from me tonight. Tomorrow I’ll keep it less impassioned.
    
    As I said – this doesn’t apply to New Zealand. We’re so very lucky, and it’s in large part because of DPF who as far I’m concerned is a national treasure.
    
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    May 28, 2018 11:02pm
    - Jack5
      
      Gute Nacht, UpandComer. Angenehme Träume.
      
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      May 28, 2018 11:16pm
Lee C

Looking at the ‘Weird claim’ post above about Mr. Gayford; I hate to be seen to contradict an esteemed and respected personage as Graeme Edgeler, Sir, but did you check for ‘Space Cadet’ in your searches?

I suspect that is where the original error may lie.
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May 29, 2018 6:52am
softail 1450

racism in action ? marama fox got booted from tv3’s dancing program ,im reliably informed that something strange is going on with her getting tossed .
apparently seymour is the worst competitor ever to take part in the series,”he dances like a piece of wet driftwood”is how its been explained to me .
maybe fox has a reason to be a little pissed off but lets hope racism isn’t put forward as the reason.
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