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Monique Watson

Good Morning. F-35’s over Beirut.
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May 27, 2018 8:09am
- stephieboy
  
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  Monique Watson, another Sabra and Shatila massacre in the making?
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:14am
  - Longknives
    
    I most certainly hope so Stephieboy!
    
    To quote Corporal Jones-
    “They don’t like it up ’em!”
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:38am
  - Manolo
    
    I always knew you were a Hamas supporter, stephieboy. 🙂
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:36am
    - sooty
      
      Of course he is, he likes Phool Goof, as well.
      
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      May 27, 2018 10:46am
      - igm
        
        I take it you are referring
        to the person who hugged and kissed Yasser Arafat!
        
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        May 27, 2018 6:04pm
  - Twinkletoes
    
    Ah, yes. The so called massacre by the Lebanese Christian Militia in revenge for the PLO eradicating the Christian town of Damour. In fact, less died in the camps than died in Damour where every Christian, man, woman and child was killed.
    
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    May 27, 2018 12:07pm
Southern Raider

Has Assad provided any value yet leading the UN’s disarmament committee?
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May 27, 2018 8:12am
artemisia

Govt ‘needs to check its magic wand’ over KiwiBuild targets

A polite way for yet another expert to say KiwiBuild is toast. In large part because of lack of construction capacity. Just like The Treasury and Reserve Bank said. And that MBIE did not think was a factor. Hahaha. Tell that to the crazy busy tradies in my family.

Wishful thinking and a bigly election promise does not add up to a magic wand.

The article goes on to talk about large contracts and prefabrication, the idea being that big forward contracts will allow major capital investment. And then the question is asked – what happens to that capital investment at the end of Kiwibuild – which of course might well not be in 10 years time if it fails or there is a change in government, or both.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104163421/govt-needs-to-check-its-magic-wand-over-kiwibuild-targets
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May 27, 2018 8:14am
- Southern Raider
  
  There is even simple things that this idiot Twyford hasn’t taken in account which significantly constrain capacity.
  
  For example there is still a massive number of leaking homes that need to be repairs/reclad with each job taking between 2 and 6 months to complete. Fixing these homes does not add a single new dwelling towards even private count of additional homes.
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:21am
- Inandout
  
  Our builders are starting to work in Aussie where the hourly rate is much higher, and building costs are much lower. How can this be, it doesn’t compute? Can our building supply industry be scalping to a huge extent because it is a near monopoly?
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:52am
  - marcw
    
    It’s not the house costs that are lower, it’s the land, services and consent costs are so much lower.
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:01am
    - Inandout
      
      You are correct with these ‘fees’. I was told by a factory owner that the local power company charged $30,000 to connect his new buildings to the nearest underground (15 metres) power source. Then the local council grabbed figures out of the air to add another $50,000 to the cost of the building. It seems taxpayer/ratepayer lethargy has allowed this to occur.
      
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      May 27, 2018 9:14am
JibberJabber

HdPA and some other cretin called Alice Snedden have taken a large draft of Mallards Koolaid, in an attempt to bag the Nats they have both penned fact free epistles on the voices in Mallards head,

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/103938305/alice-snedden-stupid-little-girl-how-desperate-are-you

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12058350

Maybe in the interests of balance they could give us their opinions of Mallards previous ‘Tinkerbell’ comments or even every other childish comments made by political infants over the years?
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May 27, 2018 8:17am
- igm
  
  Remember Mallard in the House smirking and uttering remarks about Don Brash and an affair. At the same time he was courting some bint young enough to be his granddaughter, whilst still married. He is, and always has been, a charlatan.
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:22am
  - Lance
    
    One would almost get the impression the MSM are largely steaming great hypocrites and in the lefts pocket….
    Evidence to the contrary is somewhat lacking
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:24am
    - itstricky
      
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      HDPA has written a number of anti-Labour Government pieces. The moment she doesn’t “The MSM” are “roaring red faced SJW commies”
      again.
      
      It is amusing how much the thin branches sway in the light Sunday morning breeze.
      
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      May 27, 2018 8:52am
    - Piniwi
      
      @ Lance funniest part of the whole saga is that since Mallard repeated it to the Media party even after refusing to repeat it in the House it has worked it’s way up to being a click bait headline. It seems that HDPA is a real swinger and has swung back to defend the COL as she takes it to another level while embedding this label for any that missed before.
      
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      May 27, 2018 3:41pm
  - Inandout
    
    What annoys me is this unwritten law that politicians are mostly immune from their sex lives being reported, supposedly to ‘protect their families’. I say bullshit because they are our employees and deserve to be exposed when they hunt a ‘bit on the side’.
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:01am
- Longknives
  
  The most bizarre bit is when HDPA claims that even if National never made the ‘Stupid Girl’ comment they are ‘Still in the wrong’!
  
  Eh????
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:34am
  - lilman
    
    HDPA, I have a gun I could sell her,I just need to get Police to sign it off.
    
    Now how could I do that?
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:51am
    - holysheet
      
      Ask Cindy to have a private conversation with her puppet Bush. That will get it fixed.
      
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      May 27, 2018 11:29am
      - Paulus
        
        Believed in the Police HQ that Bush is on his way out anyway to be replaced by a woman officer of insufficient rank.
        
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        May 27, 2018 1:09pm
      - RF
        
        Paulus.
        
        The Police commissioners job will be a Co position shared with H1 & H2.
        
        You get what you asked for.
        
        Almost forgot……Sarc….
        
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        May 27, 2018 4:48pm
  - itstricky
    
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    I found what she was suggesting quite obvious.
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:53am
    - JibberJabber
      
      We know, the voices in your head echo the voices in Trevs`, like all the rest of the supporters of the Coalition of Losers and Deadbeat wasters.
      
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      May 27, 2018 9:04am
      - itstricky
        
        The voices in my head tell me how to use possessive apostrophes.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:19am
      - JibberJabber
        
        Thanks, I quite often get thumbs down for my grammatical errors, any and all advice is gratefully appreciated.
        I knew it was an error, but I was too lazy to edit.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:24am
      - itstricky
        
        You’re welcome. I wouldn’t normally highlight it, but you made the same mistake in your original post. I felt it a public service to mention.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:39am
      - JibberJabber
        
        My rule is, if in doubt apostrophate.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:45am
      - GazzaW
        
        Grammar and spelling correctors are gratuitous pedants Jibber Jabber. Just be grateful you don’t have to live with them.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:54am
      - itstricky
        
        My rule is, if in doubt apostrophate.
        
        As long as you don’t confuse it with prostrate, it sounds like an excellent rule.
        
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        May 27, 2018 12:52pm
- Psycho Milt
  
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  I notice that for more than a week after the incident, National MPs settled for declaring that “people say things in the heat of the moment” or “It wasn’t me!” Then it became clear that no-one had a recording in which the things being shouted at Ardern at the time were clearly audible. Suddenly, National’s story changed to one in which Mallard was making things up.
  
  It’s noteworthy that not even someone as opposed to Ardern’s government as HdPA is willing to let that level of sexism and weaselry go by without comment.
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:40am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Even if National didn’t say it, the rest of NZ was thinking it.
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:43am
    - Psycho Milt
      
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      That’s the thing – it’s exactly the kind of comment a male right-winger would make. Bridges is claiming outraged innocence now that he’s sure no-one has a clear recording of it, but what’s that worth when everyone knows it’s exactly the kind of thing those stuffed shirts sitting around him would come out with?
      
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      May 27, 2018 9:05am
      - pdm
        
        milt – even mrspdm agrees with it and it was her that named that awful woman from Christchurch with the History degree, Megan Woods, miss piggy.
        
        So I think you are well off the mark with your `male right winger’ phrase.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:21am
      - Gravelroad
        
        “F..k John Key, F..k John Key” came out recorded clear as a bell.
        Likewise rape John Key’s daughter.
        Oh, hang on, that was leftist student and cool musician talk so that’s quite different and acceptable eh?
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:25am
      - rouppe
        
        If you despise male right wingers so much, why did you spend so much time helping the US armed forces in Kuwait?
        
        That place would have to be filled with the very definition of male right wingers, with red necks to boot.
        
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        May 27, 2018 10:14am
      - Viking2
        
        The comment was exactly the sort of comment that dullard has made on lots of occasions past. Mostly ignored by others.
        Given the leopards don’t change their spots, it a certainty that it was a thought or mumble in Mallards own head.
        
        And of course we would understand that he actually does believe that she is “a stupid woman”.
        
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        May 27, 2018 10:52am
      - Psycho Milt
        
        If you despise male right wingers so much, why did you spend so much time helping the US armed forces in Kuwait?
        
        Many reasons, not least of which was that their government had created a failed state less than two hours’ drive from my apartment, so it was very much in my interest to help them re-impose some kind of order on the place.
        
        However, you’ve started from a false premise. I don’t despise conservatives in general, and the conservative American soldiers and civilian contractors I worked with in Kuwait were mostly people with a lot of integrity.
        
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        May 27, 2018 2:01pm
      - rouppe
        
        their government had created a failed state less than two hours’ drive from my apartment, so it was very much in my interest to help them re-impose some kind of order on the place.
        
        I presume you mean Iraq being the failed state. I also presume that you worked in Kuwait for other reasons before that since you had an apartment. Unless the apartment was for the work you did for the USA which I doubt since your profession suggests your grammar would be accurate.
        
        The USA got involved (the first time) because Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Would you have preferred your apartment had come under the boot of Iraqi forces? What is a friend (the USA) supposed to do when asked for help by a weaker friend (Kuwait)?
        
        Re-impose seems an odd phrase to use for someone openly critical of the actions of the USA creating a failed state
        
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        May 27, 2018 2:45pm
      - Psycho Milt
        
        Yes, I was already living in Kuwait when I got the civilian contractor job, the apartment was courtesy of my wife’s employer. We weren’t in Kuwait when Iraq invaded in 1990, but we knew people who were, and believe me there were very few Kuwaitis shedding tears for Iraq when the US invaded it in 2003.
        
        I used the term “re-impose” order because the state was orderly up until the US invasion. It was that invasion that turned it into a failed state. I certainly had plenty to say about the stupidity of Bush and his sycophants (Blair, Howard et al) invading Iraq and turning it into a neighbourhood threat, but complaining doesn’t turn back the clock – once the place was wrecked, the only thing to do was try and fix it up. I was willing to help with that.
        
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        May 27, 2018 5:45pm
    - itstricky
      
      That’d be the same “rest of NZ” that were outraged by San Diego Zoo’s mix up of Maori and Aboriginals, right?
      
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      May 27, 2018 9:22am
      - Nermal
        
        Yet nobody blames the Maori performers happily getting paid to front the event
        
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        May 27, 2018 12:17pm
      - cha
        
        the Maori performers
        
        Don’t sound too Maori to me.
        
        https://www.facebook.com/sdzsafaripark/videos/2276001899083140/
        
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        May 27, 2018 12:26pm
      - itstricky
        
        Yet nobody blames the Maori performers happily getting paid to front the event
        
        They didn’t make the mistake, and weren’t aware of it. It was the Zoo’s management/communication people who did that.
        
        Regardless, all of NZ was upset, just like all of NZ was thinking Jacinda was a “stupid little girl”
        
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        May 27, 2018 12:54pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Most likely Trev was thinking it.
      
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      May 27, 2018 10:46am
  - mandk
    
    Can you give us a source to that quote: “people say things in the heat of the moment” ?
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:45am
    - Psycho Milt
      
      Simon Bridges, as reported by NewsHub on 15 May: http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/05/newshub-investigates-which-national-mp-made-a-very-sexist-remark-about-jacinda-ardern.html
      
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      May 27, 2018 8:57am
      - mandk
        
        Thanks, but all that shows is that Bridges was being gracious towards Mallard, even though Mallard was mistaken.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:04am
      - Psycho Milt
        
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        For my money, someone who suddenly changes his story when it turns out there’s no evidence of what actually happened isn’t “gracious,” but immediately suspected of being a lying weasel.
        
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        May 27, 2018 10:26am
      - Duxton
        
        “As reported by NewsHub…”
        
        So, it’s made up then. SB didn’t say it at all.
        
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        May 27, 2018 10:29am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Any audio recording within the Parliamentary Debating Chamber can be analysed to detect if the words “silly little girl” or “stupid little girl” were uttered.
    
    I wonder if the Speaker will be willing to subject the audio recordings to acoustic analysis for clarification.
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:53am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      The audio system in Parliament HAS been analysed Maggy, and the words complained of were not recorded. Nor did the Hansard reporters hear anything. Normally they record audible interjections such as the recent one by David Parker towards Judith Collins about Botox, or Mallard’s infamous “Tinkerbell” slur.
      
      At this point, the only person to have heard the words allegedly used was Trevor Mallard, who has also admitted to have poor hearing in the ear the points in National’s direction. If this was a court case, the jury would acquit, as the circumstantial evidence simply isn’t good enough.
      
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      May 27, 2018 11:24am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @ks
        
        I have been reading MSM reports that the audio recordings were “indistinct”.
        (see Bernard Hickey’s comment – 2nd para, Point 3
        https://pro.newsroom.co.nz/articles/2996-1-8-things-that-mattered-this-week)
        
        Before Mallard & Co hide behind this excuse, it should be made clear that analysis of “indistinct” audio recordings are part & parcel of acoustic work.
        
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        May 27, 2018 11:47am
      - Duxton
        
        Bernard Hickey. Another liar.
        
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        May 27, 2018 5:19pm
  - lilman
    
    Sorry Psycho thats not actually fair.
    Taxcinda is a “STUPID LITTLE GIRL”.
    I saw her post a message from the back of her Limo one night,it was simply pathetic.
    I can only say the truth hurts.
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:54am
    - Psycho Milt
      
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      You guys need to get your story straight. Is it “Mallard made it up to damage National!” or is it “The truth hurts!” Can’t be both.
      
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      May 27, 2018 9:00am
      - JibberJabber
        
        Mallard is the only person on record as uttering the phrase, so it can indeed be both.
        The level of Butthurt being expressed by your side proves that he inadvertently expressed the fear you all have of the anointed one.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:08am
      - cmm
        
        Yes it can be both.
        
        She is a stupid little girl. That is well proven.
        
        But there is still no evidence that someone from National said it.
        
        Mallard might have still heard it though.
        
        More than likely Mallard was off on a daydream and thought “Shit, she’s a stupid little girl.”, then thought someone else must have said it. You know, a bit like how people think they’re possessed or hear hear fairies in the forest calling their name or the voice of god – meanwhile it is being generated from inside their own brain.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:12am
      - itstricky
        
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        She is a stupid little girl. That is well proven.
        
        Perhaps National should be proud of it, then? Maybe they should stand up and own it? I mean there’s nothing more I enjoy than seeing highly paid, publically funded, high school kids sling insults at one another and make public records of when the other side stand up to go for a shit.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:30am
      - Psycho Milt
        
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        Mallard is the only person on record as uttering the phrase, so it can indeed be both.
        
        It can be both. Hmmm. So, Ardern quite literally and truthfully is a “stupid little girl,” and it’s also an outrageous calumny upon the National Party for the Speaker to claim one of its MPs might have said something truthful?
        
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        May 27, 2018 10:31am
      - Psycho Milt
        
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        More than likely Mallard was off on a daydream and thought “Shit, she’s a stupid little girl.”, then thought someone else must have said it.
        
        It’s telling that you have to come up with schoolyard gibberish like that as a possible alternative to what actually happened.
        
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        May 27, 2018 10:37am
      - Viking2
        
        More than likely Mallard was off on a daydream and thought “Shit, she’s a stupid little girl.”, then thought someone else must have said it.
        
        It’s telling that you have to come up with schoolyard gibberish like that as a possible alternative to what actually happened.
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        Like the Law, until you can provide proof positive that anyone actually said those words you are like so many of your ilk. Just making shit up, which of course is what Mallard has done. He may well have heard it in his head but their is no proof (video or sound), anyone else said this.
        
        All you are doing is publicizing that she is indeed “a silly woman”.
        Keep it up, before long it will become the Legend.
        
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        May 27, 2018 10:59am
      - Psycho Milt
        
        …until you can provide proof positive that anyone actually said those words you are like so many of your ilk. Just making shit up.
        
        Well, that’s certainly an approach that’s working OK for Putin and Assad, but I wouldn’t have thought National considered them aspirational role models.
        
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        May 27, 2018 12:19pm
  - JibberJabber
    
    Unlike the media or Labour, National investigated the claim against them, they were unable to substantiate it.
    If you have evidence to the contrary, present it.
    Not that anyone gives a fuck anyway apart from CoL tragics.
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:57am
  - niggly
    
    Fuck off Psycho Milt you obnoxious piece of shit, you came onto this blog deflecting and joking about the Labour Youth Camp sex groping scandal.
    
    And now here you are getting aggressive about a verbal insult (which isn’t clear if it happened or not – we only Trevor Mallard’s dubious word – which he apparently heard on his left side of his head in other words the ear in which he has said he is partially deaf …….. so it must have been said so loud (sarc) that even dozens of microphones couldn’t pick it up) but like to make fun of serious sexual misconduct when it’s done by a Labour insider in order to protect your corrupt Labour Party.
    
    You really are rotten to the core.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:51am
    - niggly
      
      https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/labour_summer_school_allegations.html#comment-2159633
      
      Then after departing with his tail between his legs, on other blogs Psycho Milt would go full retard attacking anyone who raised the Labour Youth Camp groping incident!
      
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      May 27, 2018 12:07pm
      - Psycho Milt
        
        I wasn’t chuffed with people who wanted to make partisan political capital from the victims of a sexual assault, no. However, that doesn’t mean you can’t make a joke about it. Humour may be in the eye of the beholder, but I notice that the joke you objected to so much now has 61 upticks…
        
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        May 27, 2018 12:28pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Yep, totally endorse your post, niggly. He’s a nasty piece of work with serious issues. Probably needs help but also probably wouldn’t listen.
      
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      May 27, 2018 1:58pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  There’s the little mater about “Silly Little Girl” forever being referred to as “The Comment” until someone [looking at you, Trev] leaked it to the media who seized upon it in an attempt to discredit National and caught the beloved Mother of the Nation in friendly fire.
  HdPA hasn’t thought this one through at all, neither did Trev.
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:46am
  - igm
    
    Mallard’s current concubine is a known left-wing messenger . . . definitely not a journo!
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:51am
    - lifesgood
      
      I have to say it never ceases to amaze me that Mallard has had a number of women, even when still married to one. What on earth would make a woman be attracted to him?
      
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      May 27, 2018 2:00pm
      - sooty
        
        The thickness of his wallet?
        
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        May 27, 2018 5:26pm
      - pentwig
        
        It ain’t his dick I’m told.
        
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        May 27, 2018 7:00pm
- Chris2
  
  Even more recent, whilst Judith Collins was addressing Parliament, David Parker shouted at her about botox and Chris Hipkins giggled childishly, but no reporting by the media of this sexist behaviour from Labour Cabinet Ministers, even though their remarks are documented in Hansard (in contrast to the silly little girl allegation which does not appear in Parliament’s official record).
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:47am
  - igm
    
    Parker is yet another Labourite with morals and ethics of a sewer rat. His background and behaviour are a disgrace.
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:28am
  - holysheet
    
    Would it not be part of the record now? With all the accusations and denials, will this banter be part of the official records. He said this, no I did not etc would be there I would have thought. Bit like Jerry getting in the “stupid little girl ” comment 5 times in his interview with the media.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:37am
    - stigie
      
      Im bloody pleased Big Gerry got the “stupid little girl” comment in 5 times.
      What im pissed off about, he never got it in 25 times..?
      
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      May 27, 2018 12:33pm
      - lifesgood
        
        Yes, great work by Gerry.
        
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        May 27, 2018 2:01pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Remember all the times Mallard and other Labour MP’s would barrack at Nick Smith, telling him to “Take your pills”?
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:49am
  - Viking2
    
    Ha, probably true in that case.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:02am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Neither of us has much time for Smith V2, but that kind of interjection against someone who at the time was known to be dealing with mental health issues is about as low as it gets.
      
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      May 27, 2018 11:28am
G152

And, judging by the way he was behaving last videoed parliamentary session, he has lost it.
And Jerry is pouncing on every error, imagined or impugned, truly a Comedy of Errors
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May 27, 2018 8:28am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Brownlee was outstanding on Thursday, pushing Mallard to, and at times beyond, the limit. It was like a cat playing with a dying mouse.
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:33am
Longknives

Stuff (proving they have completely lost the plot) is gushing over these fruitcake activists-

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/104065372/125-years-of-suffrage-meet-nzs-next-generation-of-rebel-women

Check out Emile Rakete- (Who wants all Prisons closed because of ‘Capitalism’)

“The longer capitalism is the dominant system in New Zealand, the longer people will be suffering and dying in poverty for no reason other than to make a handful of people extremely wealthy. ”

“The role prisons play in our society, it’s really apparent that they have ….everything to do with maintaining the current system of power in this country – which means upholding capitalism and racism”

Fucking Bonkers!
Prisons keep people like Emile and her family safe from Rapists and Murderers….Yet she wants them all closed because of ‘Capitalism’ and ‘Wacism’ etc???
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May 27, 2018 8:32am
- redeye
  
  This article is about;-
  “* Nominations for the 2018 Women of Influence Awards are open. Nominate an influential woman you know at stuff.co.nz/womenofinfluence”
  
  I don’t have time myself, but someone with more could nominate Judith Collins. She certainly has more influence than anyone highlighted in this article. For a start she is showing the government’s most prominent MP up to look like the low IQ clown he actually is.
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:44am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Agree all the women on that list aren’t to be aspired to. They are bloody nutters. Just look at the PSA one trying to emulate a Lenin photo
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:57am
  - holysheet
    
    Why do sumo wrestlers shave their legs?
    So people don’t confuse them with feminists.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:39am
- marleybob
  
  Easy fix, change the name of a capitalist prison to a socialist gulag, that should make Emile Rakete happy.
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:46am
  - Piniwi
    
    But marleyboy there can’t be anymore prisons since convicted criminals are never sentenced to prison they get something “preventive detention”? Hence they must now all be Preventive Detention Centres or PDC simply because as noted they never get sentenced to prison anymore.
    
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    May 27, 2018 3:59pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  WTF is Emile Rakete that her opinion gets in MSM?
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:49am
  - Inandout
    
    Is it Rakete or Raketeer?
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:17am
  - Sideoiler
    
    WTF is Emile Rakete that her opinion gets in MSM?
    
    She posseses a vagina and she is brown, this it seems makes her well qualified.
    
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    May 27, 2018 10:48am
- dime
  
  imagine being so thick, you cant compete in society, so you spend your days longing for communism lol
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:50am
- Chris2
  
  “PANIA NEWTON (Waikato, Ngāpuhi, Te Rarawa, Ngāti Maniapoto) is a lawyer from South Auckland”
  
  The Lawyers and Conveyancers Act 2006 makes it an offence to call oneself a lawyer if you do not have a current Practising Certificate.
  
  Newton does not have a a current Practising Certificate.
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:58am
- Huevon
  
  How about celebrating women who just love their families, work hard and help make this country the safe and prosperous place it is. Why does “being a woman in 2018” involve being a communist psycho bitch? These ideological fanatics have no place here.
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:36am
Manolo

The best example of a hard-to-kill weed:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/05/hillary-clinton-dons-heavy-coat-and-scarf-in-sweltering-90-boston-heat/

Now that we are heading into the summer months, it is obvious Hillary is hiding something with her bulky clothing.

Hillary Clinton has been spotted many times recently wearing a heavy coat and scarf strategically placed to hide what appears to be a back brace.
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May 27, 2018 8:36am
- Dany
  
  Why are we still questioning Hillary’s health? Totally normal for her kind to shed an exoskeleton every now and then
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:43am
- VicParking
  
  She’s looking back and bracing herself to have to share a cell with Obama
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:58am
- Huevon
  
  The humanoid exterior is exhausted and can no longer hide its reversion to reptilian form. ?
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:27am
duggledog

Alice Snedden is not a supporter of National.

She’s nice and quite a humorous person but at the end of the day just like Marvelly, Guy Williams and so many of their set, she has little life experience.

They are shielded from the realities of life because they are childless and rent houses. I am not really interested in what they have to say.

Unless they have wealthy parents I suspect they know full well they will always be renting as there is little reward for what they do and they have a limited shelf life. And they must hate that. Seeing more sensible boys and girls their age already on the way to the good life with houses and families and stability.
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May 27, 2018 8:37am
- Longknives
  
  Trying to find the article Snedden wrote in tribute to a friend of hers who died. (Which was fair enough)
  But at the end she said something like ‘At least he died under a Labour Government’
  
  What the Actual Fuck goes through these people’s heads?? Like anyone taking their Terminal breath is going to be thinking ‘At least we have a Coalition Government led by my preferred Political Party’
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:44am
  - Longknives
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/98894291/Alice-Snedden-I-m-grateful-that-an-open-door-let-an-unusual-character-into-my-life
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:44am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yeah, I read that Longknives – and was a bit shocked at the lack of basic humanity and respect to the deceased displayed in that comment.
    The media is indeed on a downward spiral of idiocy and we are seemingly unable to redress the balance.
    The pushing of articles by immature young people out to shock and devalue our society is getting boring really.
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:53am
  - mandk
    
    And to think they give people like Alice Snedden the vote!
    
    “Stupid little girl” (Mallard, May 2018)
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:15am
srylands

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104238788/nzdf-chief-flew-top-brass-around-nz-on-costly-helicopter-rides

This article is idiotic and Seymour is being a fool. If we are being visited by the heads European defence forces they cannot take the bus. Secondly these helicopters need to be used. It is embarrassing reading this shit. If the journalist wants to write feature articles on poor spending, I can give him 100 suggestions without even trying.

There is a constituency in New Zealand for a party that ACT was. But it is not David Seymour. I don’t dislike the guy but he is all over the place.
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May 27, 2018 8:38am
- Justitia
  
  Seymour is a waste of valuable space. There is indeed a constituency for a true Centre-Right Party but he will not receive that constituency’s vote. He needs to be shoved aside before the next election.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:14am
- niggly
  
  Oh dear, the article was written by Andrea Vance, always looking to make a mountain out of molehill, and back to her spiteful writing ways now that she is back at Fairfax/Stuff and doesn’t need to appear pleasant to the TV1 news viewers.
  
  But yes David Seymour should have:
  
  a) been more measured in his criticism (like Mark Mitchell was).
  
  b) wised-up and realised Andrea Vance, as a print journalist, will exploit anyone foolish enough to overly engage with her and end up making them look bad (as also Peter Dunne can attest to)!
  
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  May 27, 2018 12:20pm
  - 3-coil
    
    Niggly – Andrea wasn’t teasing Seymour hinting she’d throw him the hairy lasso did she?
    
    Edit: reference please!
    
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    May 27, 2018 12:51pm
cha

A $76K a month pension. And we think national super is a problem.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/business/pension-finance-oregon.html?smid=tw-share
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May 27, 2018 8:41am
kowtow

Australia awake to the danger.

But here we keep kowtowing , even taking up positions on their bank boards and they’re even in parliament.

“We live in a rapidly changing world. We are watching the rise of authoritarian states. Those states are conducting foreign interference operations across Western democracies. In Australia, it is clear that the Chinese Communist Party is working to covertly interfere with our media, our universities and also influence our political processes and public debates.”

Australia’s spy and police chiefs hint at this all the time, but they are always very careful never to mention the CCP by name in public.”

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-23/china-australia-relationship-strained-not-broken/9791468
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May 27, 2018 8:45am
- stephieboy
  
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  kowtow, as the US has experienced with the Kremlin and Putin’s covert interference in the US 2016 Presidential elections..
  
  https://www.wired.com/story/did-russia-affect-the-2016-election-its-now-undeniable/
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:48am
  - backster
    
    Steph..Yep giving all those $millions to the Clinton Foundation.
    
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    May 27, 2018 10:42am
- Justitia
  
  Yes Kowtow, the Australians take pride in their independence and have the spine to call out Chinese interference in their domestic affairs. Our politicians are spineless and cultivate dubious Chinese funding and sinecures.
  
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  May 27, 2018 3:57pm
dime

any of you guys gonna vote for the head hunters at the next election?

ross meurant says they need to form a political party so they dont become isis. there are 200,000 gang members so they could hold the balance of power?

who knows, if chompers has a second kid, the president of black power could become prime minister for 6 weeks..
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May 27, 2018 8:48am
- Longknives
  
  Ross Meurant gets weirder by the day..
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:56am
  - Longknives
    
    And speaking of people who are losing the plot-
    
    I read a piece on Stuff by Ali Mau this morning when I first woke up (Yeah I know, I know..) – Now I was still half asleep but it was fucking bizarre and it seems to have now disappeared..
    
    In a nutshell she was upset that some Women have been eliminated on Dancing with the Stars but David Seymour is still in the competition. She seemed to be actually suggesting some kind of Political Conspiracy involving John Key!
    Anyone else see this?
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:03am
    - Duxton
      
      Yes, I saw that. I didn’t whether to feel sorry for her (as in, she has a serious mental condition), or to think she is simply a nasty bitch.
      
      Her writing has no redeeming features whatsoever.
      
      None. Whatsoever.
      
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      May 27, 2018 9:58pm
  - Inandout
    
    He still sleeps with a minto bar apparently.
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:19am
- backster
  
  Dime…Meurant is Loathsome Peter’s buddy, maybe they could call it NZ 2nd for coalition purposes.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:44am
- Duxton
  
  Given that the ‘reporter’ is David Fisher, I call BS on that story.
  
  It would be more likely (and entirely reasonable) that Meurant was trying to encourage the gangs to engage with the political process, rather than be permanently off-side from it.
  
  Trying to associate National & Meurant with gangs: it’s a typical hit-job from the lying c@nt Fisher.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:47am
duggledog

Act’s problem is that Seymour just doesn’t cut it.

You need a tough guy (or girl) to sell a tough message. NZ is crying out for it (or will be shortly)

While I like Seymour I just can’t see him punching a reporter in the head when he just wanted to be left alone fly fishing. And he doesn’t even own a house.
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May 27, 2018 8:49am
- dime
  
  how the hell does he not own a house? he flats ffs at his age.
  
  to his credit he put a shit ton of work in, spent a year knocking on doors and all that. good for him.
  
  but hes as weak as piss. he is zero threat to anyone.
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:01am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Weak as piss…? A bit like whatsisname who leads the National Party then?
    
    Boy… this country is in real trouble… 🙁
    
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    May 27, 2018 12:17pm
    - dime
      
      yeah mate, a little bit like that.
      
      youd think national would learn from the GOP. they capitulated like bitches and lost hardcore.
      
      then the don came along with his big swinging dick and they rule supreme
      
      the trick is getting an actual alpha male. not someone pretending to be one.
      
      blokes respond to an anti-pc alpha and enough chicks like them to get over the line
      
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      May 27, 2018 12:51pm
- Inandout
  
  He does however get good crowds at his meetings. I am still undecided on Simon but am also wary of those who say Judith is too confrontational. Hell, we need a bit of mongrel in our politics with the CoL being so inept.
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:40am
Justitia

So this is how the shutting down of free speech begins in New Zealand? As her parting gift Dame Devoid is asking the United Nations to tell the New Zealand government to make “disharmonious speech” by New Zealanders involving “the religion and beliefs of ethnic minority communities” a crime. I have included the relevant paragraph recommending this step from the Human Rights Commission’s report to the UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) here:

“Recommendation 2
: That the Committee urges the Government to:
(a)
Review the adequacy of current legislation in addressing and sanctioning hate speech and incitement to racial disharmony, including hateful and disharmonious speech
targeted at the religion and beliefs of ethnic minority communities; and
(b)
Following that review, make
any changes necessary to ensure that the legislative framework
is adequate and contains appropriate and effective sanctions. ”

This recommendation is an obvious attempt by the HRC to use the UN to shut down free speech in New Zealand since our politicians have so far resisted going this far. The body of the report makes clear that the HRC’s focus is adverse comment by New Zealanders on Islamic beliefs and practices.

The UN will no doubt give its blessing to the proposal and the government will adopt the necessary change to the Human Rights Act while telling us that the UN made them do it and the change brings us into line with “international best practice”. That would seem to be Devoid’s plan. We must do everything we can to stop it in its tracks in order to preserve our fundamental liberties.
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May 27, 2018 9:00am
- Justitia
  
  The current Chair of CERD is from Algeria, membership of the UN Human Rights Council includes Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Qatar and the UAE. The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights is Prince Zeid bin Ra’ad from Jordan. As far as the UN is concerned therefore, Devoid’s proposal to outlaw free speech is pretty much a slam-dunk.
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:18am
- kevn
  
  @just… She must be on the payroll, weird.
  With our coalition of losers and liars running the asylum, they will just go with it and roll over. Maybe.
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:28am
- calendar girl
  
  Thanks for bringing that to our attention, Justitia. Chilling.
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:46am
  - Dave Mann
    
    I second that! Thanks Justitia.
    
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    May 27, 2018 12:20pm
Monique Watson

34th Squadron is looping.
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May 27, 2018 9:13am
Harkman

So Dopey Dann is talking to Chippie and they are wanting to change NCEA, heck I still don’t know what it is. Naturally Labour has to change it. But get this Dopey Dann is worried it you make NCEA level 1 (which I belive is school cert) harder Maori and Pacific islanders will fail, how racist is that?
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May 27, 2018 9:15am
- Harkman
  
  Funny story about the dumbing down of high school education. Some 12-15 years ago I was unfortunate enough to be selected on a jury and while on it another chap who was a high school science teacher told me he gave his seventh form class his chemistry bursary paper from the 1990s and the kids found it too hard. Great.
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:21am
  - BeaB
    
    Too hard or the syllabus had changed?
    Most seni0r science students are working on harder stuff than we ever did. And it’s up to date, not stuck in a textbook 20 years old, as we had to use!
    
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    May 27, 2018 10:45am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Funny thing with science is that the universe doesn’t actually change every couple of years. Bursary chemistry covered mostly basic inorganic and organic chem, electron orbitals/transition metal valances and quantitative calculations with a little bit on silicate chem if you could be bothered. That stuff is all foundational and doesn’t change.
      
      Between 1990 and 2000 there was more than one year of slippage in maths curricula. And there had already been a lot of slippage before 1990. Meanwhile in good schools like Auck Grammer with top-notch teachers and motivated kids classes full of students were sitting Bursary+Scholarship 3 years in a row in 5th, 6th and 7th form, because the syllabus was too easy.
      
      It’s all being dumbed down to improve pass rates.
      
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      May 27, 2018 11:45am
- mandk
  
  Has Dann asked Hipkins why he wants to force kids who have taken refuge in charter schools back into the very system that failed them?
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:22am
  - Harkman
    
    To technical of a question for Dopey Dann.
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:24am
- Piniwi
  
  Seems Harkman it is just the opposite as their answer to improving pass rates for whatever replaces NCEA will require only 40 credits instead of the current 80. Apparently the goal is to dumb down the masses so that when the country is financially crippled the masses will be too dumb to know how bad it really is. Then the rush of election bribes will draw their votes like flies to a turd. That was a failure last election as not even a turd with glitter failed draw as many votes for a change as expected. Perhaps the voters heard it as a vote for chains and it was what was required to get the glittered turd moving ahead.
  
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  May 27, 2018 4:16pm
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We need more proper women’s perspective on NZ and International affairs and politics.

Here it is,

‘I’m no superwoman!’ Jacinda Ardern on juggling work and pregnancy

‘When you’ve got one of the most privileged jobs in the country, you can’t sit there and feel sorry for yourself because you’ve got an amazing opportunity.’

In a busy Auckland café, she looks like an ordinary customer, hungrily tucking into a late lunch of a cheese baguette. But a week earlier, she was sitting near Prince William at dinner and having tea with the Queen at Buckingham Palace. And next month, she will be the second world leader in history to give birth while in office.

Since she became our Prime Minister in October, Jacinda Ardern’s life has been a whirlwind. Juggling the country’s top job with her first pregnancy must be incredibly tough at times, but today she seems rested and glowing. Even if she didn’t feel as great as she looks, you would never know it because Jacinda (37) isn’t one for complaining.

https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/lifestyle/career/jacinda-ardern-on-juggling-work-and-pregnancy-37755
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May 27, 2018 9:20am
- Harkman
  
  She will be the worst nz prime minister on record.
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:22am
  - septic skeptic
    
    At this stage I still give that award to Muldoon, but time will tell.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:27am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Not sure she is, I don’t have the knowledge to compare.
    
    She is surrounded by 50 shades of stupid though, and her ideology is miles away from mine (and I suspect most people’s here) but she is achieving a lot for her tribe despite the limitations.
    
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    May 27, 2018 2:42pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  What is a “proper woman” Stephieboy? Do tell.
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:24am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Proper Woman
    A woman who isn’t a whore or a prude but does wait to give her virginity to the love of her life. Just a woman who is kind, loving, caring, and comforting.
    
    Proper Woman: A woman who when in a relationship waits a decent but not too long amount of time to give her virginity to a man.
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Proper%20Woman
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:34am
    - Manolo
      
      Come si chiamano le donne facili, cara Maggy?
      Scusi, ma per noi gli uomini la carne e’ debole! 😀
      
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      May 27, 2018 9:43am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        donna di facili costumi
        
        my favourite though:
        
        un barco di fragilità
        
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        May 27, 2018 11:19am
    - wiseowl
      
      When I was a stud at Massey I went out with a chick for 18 months. She was a catholic and wanted to do everything right. She didnt like looking at her own body from the neck down.
      When it finally happened she said ‘ is that all there is?’
      
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      May 27, 2018 1:04pm
      - cha
        
        So, you admit that you were a disappointment.
        
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        May 27, 2018 1:15pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    The notion this Silly Little Girl is a trail blazing role model for modern achieving women is insulting.
    In the 1930’s my grandmother was a sole parent who paid for her own home, supported her family, and also baked like a demon for the charitable cakestalls she ran, and the fundraising dances she organised for her favourite political party.
    Women have been working inside and outside the home while carrying children under apron and on hip since time began.
    How is that Ardern gets so much fawning adoration for doing no more than anyone else?
    
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    May 27, 2018 5:19pm
- mandk
  
  What insights into International affairs and politics did you get from that article?
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:29am
  - backster
    
    MK…Confirmation that Trev’s inner voice was correct in telling him she is a stupid Little Girl.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:01am
- pentwig
  
  you do have a fixation about females in cafes sillyboy,
  such a strange obsession
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:55am
- Rich Prick
  
  No, she is just a stupid little girl. Mallard said so.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:34am
- Duxton
  
  Thanks stephieboy.
  
  Does the article say whether she is looking forward to eventually dropping her bastard?
  
  Clarke, that is.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:56am
dog_eat_dog

As a first home buyer, I cannot wait to move into my first Kiwibuild home. However at this rate, my only hope is if Ryman or Summerset become Kiwibuild partners. And yet the silence from the media on climb-down after climb-down is deafening.
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May 27, 2018 9:26am
- geoff3012
  
  This can’t be so. Cindy Lou promised “houses for all” and let’s do it.
  
  Where’s my fucking house?
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:21am
  - artemisia
    
    You need to start sleeping in your car. We have been promised housing for everyone sleeping in a car this winter. Might be a motel but still.
    
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    May 27, 2018 10:30am
    - geoff3012
      
      Might opt for motel. Ever tried to sleep in a 911?
      
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      May 27, 2018 11:28am
  - backster
    
    geoff…Don’t worry there will be a review panel or two set up to have a conversation.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:04am
- Gravelroad
  
  Good idea Dog eat dog.
  There is a big retirement village (one of several) in the provincial town near here and boy, are they efficient.
  They get their villas/units underway and they are finished to a high standard quick smart. Incredible to watch the groups of tradies turn up, do the work and people move in.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:29am
  - artemisia
    
    Better get in quick, as Tracey Martin, NZ First Seniors Minister announced last month that retirement villages may be forced to provide some ‘affordable’ units in future.
    
    There goes the neighbourhood. Not to mention a few private property rights.
    
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    May 27, 2018 10:49am
Suze Wainwright

Does anyone know what the latest Northcote polling is? I see Nigel Haworth has issued a rallying cry to the troops to help with their campaigning and door knocking. Labour seems to believe the polls have got closer than they thought would happen. Not sure if that’s actually true or it’s just a plea to stop something bad from happening.
For those that haven’t yet contemplated or been hit by inevitable cost of living alterations there still seem to be a lot of feelz out there…
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May 27, 2018 9:48am
- sooty
  
  You mean that Labour have no slaves this time. Where’s Matty?
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:10am
Rodney Randall

So Tommy is facing 13 months i.e. death sentence for exposing rape gangs and the uk govt has ordered blackouts on media reporting on this.

A man who left bacon on the steps of a mosque was sentenced to jail and murdered in jail.

FUCK THE UK AND FUCK ISLAM
1984 has arrived.
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May 27, 2018 10:26am
- Inandout
  
  RR, let’s hope the tide has finally turned against the insidious Islamic creep.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_JTHYAAj_Q
  
  Far right my arse, just UKs fed up.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:33am
  - Longknives
    
    That bunch of people certainly aren’t ‘Far Right’.
    (Not a bootboy or skinhead in sight)
    They are normal, working class men and women who are clearly angry that the UK is being transformed into an Islamic State and the powers that be are too scared to do anything about it..
    
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    May 27, 2018 10:53am
    - kevn
      
      @LK… Problem is that islamists have infiltrated ‘the system’ and can call the shots to a degree.
      
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      May 27, 2018 11:16am
  - kevn
    
    @InOut… With a muslim Mayor of London pushing the sharia law barrow hard, it is not looking good for the UK.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:12am
    - Paulus
      
      Who is is Emile Rakate – Emile is a man’s name I thought, or is he/she a neutral ?
      
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      May 27, 2018 1:19pm
      - cha
        
        Her name is Emilie.
        
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        May 27, 2018 1:26pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    A judge at Bristol Crown Court described the incident (bacon attack) as “an attack on England”.
    
    Bacon on a doorstep and door handles of a mosque “an attack on England”
    
    No motherfucker, aka corrupt judge, the politicians are the murderers/ attackers, allowing/ facilitating a barbarous, murderous political regime to get a foothold in England.
    
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    May 27, 2018 2:59pm
- Jack5
  
  I Googled the incident in Rodney Randall’s post and found that the man had been jailed for a year for leaving bacon sandwiches outside a mosque, but there was no mention or indication he had been murdered in jail. He was found dead in his cell. Where did you get the information that he had been murdered, Rodney?
  
  A year’s jail for this seems extraordinarily harsh, especially compared with the recent Christchurch, NZ case, where a young Muslim who had been planning a terrorist attack in the city using a car and knives, was sentenced merely to probation – with golf lessons!
  
  The English case:
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4075328/Man-jailed-leaving-bacon-sandwiched-outside-mosque-dead-prison-half-way-12-month-sentence.html
  
  The NZ case:
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103168707/supervised-golf-for-christchurch-teenager-who-planned-terrorist-attack
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:11am
  - cha
    
    POS junkie overcooked the methadone and carked it.
    
    https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/24/extremist-left-bacon-mosque-died-prison-drug-overdose-7573478/
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:40am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Hot dosing is an effective murder method in prisons, or so I’ve heard.
      
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      May 27, 2018 12:41pm
      - cha
        
        Where did you hear that?.
        
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        May 27, 2018 12:44pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        From a relative who is rather senior in the service of Her Majesty in the UK.
        
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        May 27, 2018 7:10pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      So what was your reaction to the virgin in a condom at Te Papa? Edgy art, or deserving of a year in jail.
      
      Personally I don’t have an issue with either a bacon sandwich outside a Mosque or a statue in a rubber johnny. Religions of all ilks should be subject to a bit of needling over their irrational dogmatic lunacy – and Christians (deservedly) get it all the time. But I do object to double standards, hipocrisy and tip toeing around sensitive theo-fascist fuckwits of any creed especially when they threaten violence to non-believers. How can you call bacon sandwich guy a POS for such a minor exercise of free speech that hurt no-one?
      
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      May 27, 2018 1:17pm
    - waikatosinger
      
      He died in 2016 and the article you quote is from 2018 well over a year later. Read it carefully. An official finding as to cause of death has yet to be issued and is not expected until December 2018 – two years after the man died. The self inflicted methadone overdose thing is only one possibility being suggested at the inquest. The length of time it is taking suggests that the matter is not clear cut.
      
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      May 28, 2018 12:13am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    If a bacon sandwich on the steps of a mosque is worth a year’s porridge, should the people who left a fake bomb in a movie theatre be very afraid?
    We’ll be charging someone over that, right?
    
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    May 27, 2018 5:27pm
- emmess
  
  It is absolutely disgusting with what has happened to Tommy Robinson.
  While it is hyperbole to say that the UK has sunk to the level of North Korea or Venezuela, I would say it is now on par with sham democracies like say Belarus or Malaysia.
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:14am
  - peterwn
    
    See the thread started 11.17am. If I was a witness or juror entering that courthouse I would strenuously object to being filmed. Seemed to me Tommy asked for it especially as he was given a stern warning about that sort of thing at the time of the suspended sentence. Seems too the draconian suppression orders are to protect the integrity of the trial, more particularly to avoid the risk of a mistrial through jury contamination.
    
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    May 27, 2018 1:18pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      “avoid the risk of a mistrial ”
      
      No such risk: the trial had already happened, jury found them guilty. Tommy was reporting on the *sentencing*.
      
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      May 27, 2018 3:50pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        It was apparently a judge only trial. No jury to be influenced.
        Verdict was already determined. https://youtu.be/5wH9lO3Fd_A?t=321
        
        Looking worse and worse for UK judiciary/police
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:04pm
rouppe

I am nothing but relieved Susan Devoy and Jackie Blue are leaving the HRC. They have to have been the most awful advocates for equality and rights that apply to all New Zealanders.

Personally I think she is using the report that criticises the leadership there as the best way of leaving the commission with some semblance of integrity. Without being able to say “I’m acting on the report” she would leave being regarded as dead set useless.
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May 27, 2018 10:34am
Inandout

Some anti Trump woman on Radio Live asking ‘where is Melania’. Don’t they ever give up?
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May 27, 2018 10:38am
- cha
  
  Mine rescue are on the job.
  
  https://au.be.yahoo.com/twitter-convinced-white-house-sinkhole-melanias-escape-tunnel-012757448.html
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:33am
  - sooty
    
    Ring up Angry and Whinney. Send them in first as practise for Pike River.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:55am
- lifesgood
  
  No doubt busy being a good mother to their young son.
  
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  May 27, 2018 2:11pm
BeaB

Love the lefty media flocking to tell us the rules for cell phones on planes are out of date.
God f0rbid their idols could do anything wrong!
Didn’t hear them rushing to defend Banks or Brownlee, both 0f whom committed equally minor infractions even though the media beat Gerry’s up into a maj0r security breach.
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May 27, 2018 10:50am
- itstricky
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  flocking to tell us the rules…are out of date
  
  You mean like these guys:
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/11/brownlee_fined_2000.html#comment-1435481
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/11/brownlee_fined_2000.html#comment-1435535
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/11/brownlee_fined_2000.html#comment-1435537
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/11/brownlee_fined_2000.html#comment-1435538
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/11/brownlee_fined_2000.html#comment-1435551
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/11/brownlee_fined_2000.html#comment-1437037
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:21am
Jack5

Woman who was disastrous senior police officer in Britain is now giving speeches on “white male culture at work.”

She was at the centre of a sex discrimination case that led to a £870,000 payout to a male colleague she ‘bullied’.

While in the police, reports the Daily Mail, Maxine de Brunner spent more than $NZ1200 on commissioning a Napoleon-style ceremonial hat for police parades.

The newspaper also reports:

It was claimed she asked for a massive deployment of officers and specialist units to Chinthurst School in Surrey, at an estimated cost to taxpayers of £10,000 – at a time when the UK was on high terror alert.

Her son was a pupil at the school.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5774097/Controversial-female-ex-police-chief-giving-lectures-white-male-culture-workplace.html
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May 27, 2018 10:57am
holysheet

Auckland Council was concerned about the amount of sewerage leaking into the water ways. So they imported this sniffer dog from the USA that was the best shit sniffer around. Put it to work and they soon found all the leaking pipes that the councils had neglected to repair over the years.
Wellington heard about this dog and asked to borrow it. It went around the harbours edge sniffing out the worst leakages.
At the bottom of Molesworth Street it kneeled over and died. The stench emanating from the Beehive was too much, even for this dog.
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May 27, 2018 11:07am
- Dave Mann
  
  You are GOD! ???
  
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  May 27, 2018 4:14pm
Odakyu-sen

I haven’t seen any stories in the local media about Mr. Robinson’s arrest and imprisonment.

I ran a scan for “トミー・ロビンソン氏” (Mr. Tommy Robinson) to see if anything would come up in the Japanese feeds.

Bingo. https://www.newshonyaku.com/uk/20180526

Looks like some Japanese sites are doing a lot more to inform their readers than other English-language ones.
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May 27, 2018 11:17am
- emmess
  
  Fox news are reporting it – http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/26/right-wing-activist-tommy-robinson-reportedly-jailed-after-filming-outside-child-grooming-trial.amp.html
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:24am
  - itstricky
    
    And they are quite accurately reporting that he was already on suspended sentence for another offence, therefore was very likely to go to prison for any other breach. Which he did, in a public manner.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:30am
    - Ross12
      
      You are correct that he was on a suspended sentence but Fox News are not correct in saying he was filming –others maybe, but he was not. He did not even say anything.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL5n6frvCic&feature=youtu.be
      
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      May 27, 2018 12:06pm
      - cha
        
        Here’s the fucking video the clown livestreamed.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTdJaHWvLbk
        
        The co-founder of EDL livestreamed ‘reports’ from outside Leeds Crown Court for an hour this morning.
        
        He showed men entering the court on Facebook until he was approached by officers telling him to stop.
        
        https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/25/tommy-robinson-arrested-outside-child-grooming-trial-breaching-peace-7579280/
        
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        May 27, 2018 12:14pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Maybe the authorities will claim that Mr. Robinson was “reporting on an event” (i.e., he was in front of a camera outside the court, doing other journalistic stuff) and that this constituted a violation of his suspended sentence.
        
        The legal experts can argue over whether he violated his suspended sentence or not.
        
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        May 27, 2018 12:19pm
      - cha
        
        The legal experts can argue over whether he violated his suspended sentence or not
        
        The sentencing judge was pretty fucking explicit about what exactly constituted a violation.
        
        .
        
        In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as “Muslim paedophiles, Muslim rapists” and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside
        
        https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/coc-yaxley-lennon-20170522.pdf
        
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        May 27, 2018 12:32pm
      - itstricky
        
        It seems pretty straight forward to me. And the judge was very explicit.
        
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        May 27, 2018 1:01pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        He wasn’t reporting on a trial: the trial had already taken place. So there was no risk of jury bias. He was reporting on the sentencing.
        
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        May 27, 2018 3:49pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        And apparently it was a judge only trial. So no risk of jury influencing, and verdict was already in.
        
        This is a judicial attack on an individual that is embarrassing the judicial establishment. They have vacated their moral authority.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:09pm
  - Twinkletoes
    
    Reporting on the arrest of Tommy Robinson is banned in the UK.
    
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    May 27, 2018 12:50pm
    - itstricky
      
      Reporting on the arrest of Tommy Robinson is banned in the UK.
      
      This doesn’t appear very “banned”:
      
      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html
      
      I think you’re confusing his arrest with his original judgement, the subject of which is a trial in progress.
      
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      May 27, 2018 1:03pm
      - Twinkletoes
        
        Oops!
        
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        May 27, 2018 1:37pm
      - itstricky
        
        Didn’t stop 4 people from upticking you. Just goes to show that alternative facts rule the roost.
        
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        May 27, 2018 3:07pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/26/redacted-arrested-for-redacted-outside-redacted-leeds-crown-court-issues-media-ban/
        
        If the judge wanted to protect the defendants in the underlying trial he could have tailored the gag order to discussion of *that* case – not Tommy’s contempt conviction. Besides I saw loads of links to UK media reports detailing the names of the accused anyway (eg http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm?blog_id=66044). What is the Judge actually imagining he will achieve?
        
        The overbroad restriction caused a Streisand effect, bringing more attention to the rape case.
        
        But reporting restriction on Tommy’s contempt case is totally unjustifiable, it isn’t a jury trial so it only functions to shield this court and the judge from criticism, doing nothing to protect others.
        
        In the meantime it appears that police took it upon themselves to lie to Tommy’s lawyer, to prevent her coming to represent him (by telling her he was being released). Thus denying him proper representation.
        
        Judicial/police partiality in this whole mess stinks to high heaven. UK is bought low by it.
        
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        May 27, 2018 3:13pm
      - UpandComer
        
        Hey, did you know, that, in England, there is, more then, one outlet?
        
        Of those, how many, are, reporting?
        
        Ah, one.
        
        Because it’s the official mouthpiece.
        
        I spoke ‘slowly’ for you, because I think you’re deficient.
        
        The gag order was real – the only reason it wasn’t enforced in totality was because his arrest was on facebook live.
        
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        May 27, 2018 3:41pm
    - cha
      
      Reporting on the arrest of Tommy Robinson is banned in the UK.
      
      Since when?
      
      Rod Liddle
      
      26 May 2018
      
      11:04 PM
      
      https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/was-tommy-robinson-arrested-for-being-tommy-robinson/
      
      Martin Coulter
      8 hours ago
      
      https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-while-filming-outside-grooming-trial-in-leeds-a3848486.html
      
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      May 27, 2018 1:12pm
      - Philview
        
        Ha ha, I like that comment by Liddle. “Tommy Robinson arrested for being Robinson” We could use similar. Illegal for say John Minto to stand in a public place.
        
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        May 27, 2018 4:08pm
- stephieboy
  
  why report a rabid right-wing baiter and loser?
  
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  May 27, 2018 3:07pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    What would you say to the parents of the million girls? But then you never ever seem to come out in support of victims like this. Why is that?
    
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    May 27, 2018 4:52pm
    - Duxton
      
      Because he is one of them. (A groomer and rapist, that is.)
      
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      May 27, 2018 10:24pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Is there a Maori version? I can understand some of that shit
  
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  May 27, 2018 4:50pm
kevn

@Odakyu…. Blog sites are going to be the messengers.
MSM? Don’t see it, anywhere in NZ.
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May 27, 2018 11:24am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The Japanese Wikipedia lists トミー・ロビンソン氏 as a “right-wing” individual.
  The term the Japanese site uses for “right wing” is the same one used to describe the “ultra-nationalist” Japanese gangs (Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa-Y13Kn8pY (These guys are nothing like Tommy Robinson)).
  
  So, Mr. Robinson does get tarred with the “right-wing” brush used to mark the pro-nazi, Emperor-worshiping nutjobs in Japan, which is unfortunate.
  
  Mind you, there are quite a few left-wing journalists in Japan, and the Japanese Communist Party is alive and well.
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:31am
  - Ross12
    
    He is labelled “alt- right” and “far right” because he and his organisation are against this going on in the UK —54 child grooming gangs !!!
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-22617339
    
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    May 27, 2018 3:03pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Implying that kiddie fiddling is mostly a left wing activity? The defendants are labour voters as ~85% of muslims are in UK. Labour in NZ has form with it’s sex camp shenanigans.
      
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      May 27, 2018 4:41pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Odakyu-sen , and very electable?
    
    Doubt it somehow.
    
    Roos 12 , and many, many other things like Mortage fraud and other rabid right nefarious actvities.
    
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    May 27, 2018 3:10pm
sooty

Clarke Gayford having a cry about those nasty rumors in the Gaurdian newspaper, reprinted in the Herald. When’s that stupid man going to learn to shut the cake hole. No it’s all about him, only ever about him. What’s with the running to the Gaurdian, womans magazines not giving him enough colum inches, theese days?
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May 27, 2018 11:52am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Here’s the article ….
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/26/clarke-gayford-jacinda-ardern-new-zealand
  
  might save us having to buy next week’s Woman’s Weekly
  
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  May 27, 2018 12:02pm
  - niggly
    
    OMG – check out the spin the writer is using, in order to portray Jacinda & Clarke as “one of the people”:
    
    “…. she headed home to the unassuming bungalow on a quiet street she shares with her partner ….”.
    
    I wonder which unassuming bungalow the writer is referring to? Jacinda’s previous $1M+ house or her new $1.8m+ house*?
    
    *“According to QV, its mid-2017 rating valuation was near $1.8 million”. So it must be worth over $2m by now?
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/latest/101946100/jacinda-ardern-and-clarke-gayford-buy-new-home-for-growing-family
    
    I stopped reading after that (which was only paragraph 2). No doubt there must be more gems to follow in that puff-piece Guardian interview?
    
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    May 27, 2018 12:30pm
    - Jack5
      
      The Guardian article on Clarke Gayford is by Mark Broatch, an NZ journo.
      
      He’s listed as the “books and culture editor” of the NZ Listener, and earlier at one stage was listed as chief sub-editor of NZ Computerworld.
      
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      May 27, 2018 9:16pm
  - stephieboy
    
    MW , I thought you were heavily into women’s mags and rags?
    
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    May 27, 2018 3:13pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I am… but I am a thrifty old bird.
      
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      May 27, 2018 4:19pm
- Longknives
  
  The man is a ‘Wannabe Kardashian’ type.
  He absolutely craves attention and publicity- always has…
  (Unless it is bad publicity- Then he goes crying to Jacinda and gets the Police involved.)
  
  I’m actually surprised he didn’t make up yet another version of the ‘How I met Jacinda’ story to tell the Guardian…(They seem desperate to bury the original story)
  
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  May 27, 2018 12:27pm
- RF
  
  Not to worry… the father to be of the nation is also giving fatherhood advice.
  
  What a wee matrimonial treasure….
  
  We are all so lucky…..
  
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  May 27, 2018 5:08pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Another First Fuck Buddie story. What a twat.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:08pm
NZDirect

is it me, or does anyone else believe Liverpool goalkeeper Karius had a Grobelaar style game today?
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May 27, 2018 12:01pm
- SGA
  
  mumble, grumble, SGA kicks cat.
  
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  May 27, 2018 2:05pm
- MrTips
  
  I thought precisely that when Bale’s second went in. He chucked it.
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:07pm
wiseowl

The ‘Outsiders ‘ today should be compulsory viewing
for all National MP’s.
The interview with Joanne Nova was excellent.
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May 27, 2018 12:47pm
- KevOB
  
  Well worth a read:
  http://joannenova.com.au/
  
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  May 27, 2018 3:07pm
softail 1450

The mr’s and i had to make a visit to hillcrest on the north shore yesterday, as we approached the intersection outside the glenfield mall we came across a grubby bunch of people holding placards for labours candidate for the byelection shanan halbert
we got the red so i stopped and wound down the left front window to which my m’rs exclaimed “don’t say anything” but i couldn’t help myself i said excuse me” and was approached by a younger woman who answered “yes”
By this time the mr’s had pulled her baseball hat
right down as if to say i’m not getting involved.
i asked in a loud voice “isn’t that halbert guy the person who lied on his cv about a university degree he didn’t actually have ? “NO ” she yelled
in a voice that attracted the attention of all the other people with their signs.
in seconds the left hand side of the car had a half dozen of these fools asking me what i’m on about
None of them would admit to knowing about his lying on his cv
anyway it descended into an all round yelling match which my mr’s actually joined in on which made me proud and i know we prevailed because the last thing the mr’s screamed as we got the green light was “go and get fucked”,she’s not normally one to use bad language but i was laughing like a drain at her and she was to,,
The thing is i’m not even sure if my accusation was true,who cares it was the best laugh of the week….
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May 27, 2018 1:01pm
- itstricky
  
  What a hoot. The only thing that could be more fun than that would be to sit down and look up ‘Capitalisation’ and ‘Apostrophes’ in a English grammar text book.
  
  After the first sentence, I literally thought you were talking about yourself and a bunch of guys.
  
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  May 27, 2018 1:08pm
  - softail 1450
    
    itstricky , to coin a well used phrase “go and get fucked”you grammar nazi poofter ,were you one of the grubby shites on the street?
    Is that you shanan?
    
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    May 27, 2018 1:16pm
    - itstricky
      
      were you one of the grubby shites on the street?
      
      No, but I am now wondering why you were rolling down a window to talk to the “grubby shites”, and not just shouting over the top of the large, purring, beast, sitting between your legs?
      
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      May 27, 2018 2:44pm
      - softail 1450
        
        itssticky ,i wasn’t aware you had seen my penis sticky
        
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        May 27, 2018 3:04pm
      - itstricky
        
        Just as I thought.
        
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        May 27, 2018 3:05pm
  - cha
    
    Aww itstricky, you’ve hurt another semi-literate cretin’s fee-fees.
    
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    May 27, 2018 1:19pm
    - Longknives
      
      To be fair Stephieboy kind of lets your side down a bit on the Spelling and Grammar front- So I wouldn’t throw too many stones lads…
      
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      May 27, 2018 1:32pm
      - cha
        
        Nobody minds honest attempts littered with errors.
        
        Word salads with little or no effort, not so much.
        
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        May 27, 2018 1:39pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @cha
        
        It’s called STYLE.
        Some folks can disregard conventions and get away with it: most of us should stick with the basics.
        
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        May 27, 2018 2:02pm
      - cha
        
        It’s called STYLE.
        
        Yeah, and philu’s illegible, ellipse filled abominations could be called STYLE, too.
        
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        May 27, 2018 2:13pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        i can discern the diffnce ‘twixt
        it’s tricky and itstricky
        sticcky li’l dickies
        all amuddly mixt.
        
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        May 27, 2018 2:28pm
      - softail 1450
        
        longknives, To be fair we have been to a champagne breakfast for our youngest daughters birthday ,but after a little rest i’m still telling that school principal itssticky and his “under the table at morning tea” hoovering mate cha ,to “go and get fucked”….
        
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        May 27, 2018 2:32pm
      - itstricky
        
        So I wouldn’t throw too many stones
        
        I think you have me confused with someone who gives two woots which “side” anyone is on.
        
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        May 27, 2018 2:38pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, like 1950s style gardies , stockings and floral patterned dresses
        
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        May 27, 2018 3:15pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        like 1950s style gardies
        Can someone help me out here:
        I have an Australian dictionary that defines gardies as an informal term for a garfish,
        
        and it seems to have been a colloquial name for a Dunedin student pub
        https://www.odt.co.nz/lifestyle/magazine/time-called-gardies,
        
        but neither seems apposite in stephieboy’s phrase/comment/incomplete ?sentence?
        
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        May 27, 2018 3:46pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Good grief – SB has already had his alt-right sqwark, now you’ve made him fall off his perch fantasizing about women’s clothing again.
        Next thing we’re going to get re-run mentions of his favourite hotty Saint Stormy Daniels and his Trump-envy.
        
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        May 27, 2018 7:07pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    So said “It’s Tricky”
    
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    May 27, 2018 5:12pm
UpandComer

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/thousands-of-unborn-foetuses-incinerated-to-heat-uk-hospitals-9212863.html

England are incinerating aborted fetsuses for heating.

England is a very, very sick nation. Very sick.

Erase the past. Erase the present.
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May 27, 2018 1:25pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Seems an eminently sensible move, need to dispose of unwanted bodies, don’t want it to cause unpleasant scenes in landfills. Cheap and low drama. Should be an option for all dead people (particularly the easy-to-burn fatties).
  
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  May 27, 2018 3:18pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Fatties burn well…
    sometimes too well.
    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article147078929.html
    
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    May 27, 2018 5:20pm
Lee C

Ok, UAC you got me, that certainly trumps my intended post querying why we’ve heard nothing more about NLP being funded by China, and whether if we look deeply enough NZ Fist might too have similar backing.
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May 27, 2018 1:27pm
- UpandComer
  
  Please proceed.
  
  I’m going to start looking at the UKLabour people involved in the Rotherham rapes, both as participants and as facilitators. There is a startling resemblance in attitude if not seriousness to NZLabours cover-up of it’s own sexual misdemeanours in NZ.
  
  I have no doubt they’re being funded by China. Just look at ‘Siam Shanghai Sam Dastyari’ in Australia. He was getting paid in blow, cash, and hookers to pursue Chinese agendas in Australia.
  
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  May 27, 2018 1:52pm
Viking2

Coming to screen at your place. In a while.

https://www.facebook.com/beingalibertarian/videos/821558394716864/UzpfSTMzOTEyNDExNjExMTk2ODoxOTQ3NTMzOTg4NjA0Mjk4/
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May 27, 2018 1:35pm
- stephieboy
  
  V2, the guy burbling along doesn’t seemed to be oppressed at all.
  
  What’s the beef over a hick like Tommy Robinson?
  
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  May 27, 2018 3:18pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    He has something to say that is worth paying attention to.
    You do not.
    
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    May 27, 2018 7:12pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Fuck off, you snivelling piece of shit. I’d call you worse but I don’t feel like a strike. Rhymes with Bunt..
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:02pm
UpandComer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOH_hJAOIR0

The protests in England. That’s aren’t being fucking covered by the (((Media)))

It’s not fascists. It’s young, old, men, women, children.

Apparently the state swept in and arrested dozens of other people this morning as well.
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May 27, 2018 2:19pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  This is good. About time British people stood up to this shit. I hope this boils over into a revolution. It’s about time. I just feel sorry for the poor coppers, but maybe, they too will join the mob.
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:00pm
UpandComer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLKZFFpc63A

Ex police officer on the arrest.
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May 27, 2018 2:22pm
UpandComer

The UK are using Jammers to stop the protests being communicated.

Fuck the UK government. At least when the Chinese are destroying human rights and the rule of law they produce a good economy.
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May 27, 2018 2:26pm
- stephieboy
  
  UoandComer , jammers used to stop ??
  
  Sourced from what alt right rag?
  
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  May 27, 2018 3:21pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Right wing today means pro free-speech and against rape of little girls. Thanks.
    
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    May 27, 2018 3:31pm
Monique Watson

A jackload of Beirut bound, US troops just departed from Ohio.
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May 27, 2018 2:30pm
- stephieboy
  
  Monique Watson, let’s hope they have better luck than last time,
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/08/magazine/america-s-failure-in-lebanon.html
  
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  May 27, 2018 3:20pm
- Longknives
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk
  
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  May 27, 2018 6:38pm
Happychappy

How is the target of a zero road toll going to be achieved with another five deaths on road this weekend. The Greens blamed National for our ever increasing road toll but their seems to be a increasing number of deaths under their watch and no one to blame apart from themselves, but not a whisper of why it is continuing now they are in control.
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May 27, 2018 3:24pm
- stigie
  
  “How is the target of a zero road toll going to be achieved with another five deaths on road this weekend”
  
  The same as zero homelessness, zero poverdy and a fucked oil and gas industry Happychappy..?
  
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  May 27, 2018 4:26pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Round up everyone and send them to re-education camps. That will put a stop to road deaths. #GreenDreams
    
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    May 27, 2018 4:46pm
  - RF
    
    Oh the poverdy…
    
    What shall we do….
    
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    May 27, 2018 5:56pm
- MrLovebucket
  
  Simple. Just ban cars and roads.
  
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  May 27, 2018 5:08pm
softail 1450

Its beyond a doubt, itstricky is a lesbian one legged person of colour who still can’t decide if he wants to marry cha the blonde male gay donkey that has a strong relationship with stephieboy the goat specialist,,,,,sorry i’m pissed ,,,,,,excuses in the morning.
ps sorry for the bad grammar and spelling ha ha ha ha ha and for stephieboy, LOL
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May 27, 2018 3:52pm
nasska

…..”Reports about activist Tommy Robinson’s arrest are being scrubbed from the internet after the British government ordered a ban on all reporting of the incident.”……

https://www.infowars.com/media-blackout-uk-govt-scrubs-reports-of-tommy-robinson-arrest/

The “reason” according to the Notice to the Press – reporting restriction……

“Since it appears to be necessary for avoiding a substantial risk of prejudice to the administration of justice in these proceedings.”

For this a total blackout of a man’s arrest & secret squirrel sentencing is warranted? The press could have been warned not to refer to the groomers’ trial but for a judge to sanction the disappearance of any citizen is contrary to all human rights!
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May 27, 2018 5:13pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  Human Rights Lawyer Golriz Garbagetin has offered to represent Tommy voluntarily.
  
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  May 27, 2018 5:30pm
- KevOB
  
  Magna Carta.
  
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  May 27, 2018 7:02pm
- cha
  
  It’s an order preventing reporting to avoid prejudicing the trial of Akhtar and others.
  
  But hey, make it all about wee Stevie Yaxley, and I’m sure Akhtar and others will be delighted by the efforts of outraged folk to hand them grounds for appeals, and perhaps even a mis-trial.
  
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  May 27, 2018 7:11pm
  - nasska
    
    You are missing the point cha & by a wide margin.
    
    “Akhtar and others” are a minuscule part of the problem & its taken years to get the corrupt British PC infected police to prosecute even them. If they are convicted the authorities will sit back, confident that the have avoided lynching for another day & the rapey Muslims will continue to do what they do best.
    
    Jailing Robinson/Yaxley is a political act carried out by a not disinterested judiciary. It has little to do with the trial & everything to do with shutting down protest against the sex crimes committed against up to a million British schoolgirls.
    
    Put your rose tinted spectacles aside & think of the kids……that’s what it’s about!
    
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    May 27, 2018 7:24pm
    - cha
      
      Yeah, and when corrupt British PC infected police do finally prosecute rapey Muslims, doing your best to undermine their efforts to convict and imprison rapey Muslims is a winner.
      
      FFS.
      
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      May 27, 2018 7:36pm
      - nasska
        
        Robinson’s actions at the trial venue were a political protest. The police/judiciary reacted with a political response. A response out of all proportion to his actions & worse still, relieving him of his liberty in total secrecy!
        
        Essentially what we are arguing about is one man carrying a cellphone recording his protest. The response meted out by the authorities would have been considered over the top at the Nuremberg trials.
        
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        May 27, 2018 7:49pm
      - itstricky
        
        Nuremberg
        
        Oh God, really?
        
        For your sake, I hope that was in jest and that you copied it (conciously, or unconciously) from the same source that I saw.
        
        Nuremberg, Orwell, Big Brother, Illuminati, 1984, Fahrenheit 451, New World Order, what else?
        
        Quite simply, the judge has a justice system to protect and, as cha puts it, getting justice done is at risk from vigilantes. Nothing more complicated than that.
        
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        May 27, 2018 8:31pm
      - cha
        
        what else?
        
        Don’t be surprised…
        
        A nun in a German nunnery fell to biting all her companions. In the course of a short time all the nuns of this convent began biting each other. The news of this infection among the nuns soon spread, and it now passed from convent to convent throughout a great part of Germany, principally Saxony and Brandenburg. It afterwards visited the nunneries of Holland, and at last the nuns had the biting mania even as far as Rome.
        
        https://www.csicop.org/si/show/mass_delusions_and_hysterias_highlights_from_the_past_millennium
        
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        May 27, 2018 8:42pm
    - cha
      
      The response meted out by the authorities would have been considered over the top at the Nuremberg trials
      
      Whoa, best you ease up on the kool-aid, fella.
      
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      May 27, 2018 8:28pm
      - itstricky
        
        Snap
        
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        May 27, 2018 8:32pm
      - nasska
        
        Okay! I plead guilty to slight hyperbole.
        
        But do me the favour of pointing out a few equivalent cases where a Western judiciary has secretly deprived a political protester of his freedom. Note that as I pointed out in my 5.13pm “The press could have been warned not to refer to the groomers’ trial but for a judge to sanction the disappearance of any citizen is contrary to all human rights”.
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:03pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        Charred: You’re the quisling cool aid slurper.
        
        They want Robinson out of the picture.
        This is a political hit job.
        
        MUSTN’T OFFEND MUSLIMS OR FACE ARREST.
        
        What fucking hole have you been living in?
        
        PISS BE UPON HIM
        
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        May 27, 2018 9:40pm
      - itstricky
        
        But do me the favour of pointing out a few equivalent cases where a Western judiciary has secretly deprived a political protester of his freedom.
        
        It’s not secret and it could have happened to anyone. The fact that he is a protester/activist doesn’t suddenly make it an illicit act that has some deep and dark Government conspiracy behind it.
        
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        May 28, 2018 9:52am
  - BananaLlama
    
    You’re making a good point about jury contamination Cha. I suspect Mr Yakley will be released once the Akbar trial is over.
    
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    May 27, 2018 8:11pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Apparently verdict was decided and it was a judge only trial. Names of all accused printed in media:
    https://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/29-men-women-court-after-12886770
    
    Exactly what hurt was a person standing outside talking into a phone doing to the process inside the court where victims are long gone and there was never any jury?
    
    This is a targeted judicial campaign against an individual who is embarrassing the powers that be. Kill the messenger.
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:18pm
    - cha
      
      That article’s about the pre-trial Magistrates’ Court hearing where the judge said matters can only be dealt with by a judge and jury at Leeds Crown Court.
      
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      May 27, 2018 9:32pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-26/tommy-robinson-arrested-outside-uk-court-jailed-13-months-judge-orders-orwellian
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May 27, 2018 5:21pm
- nasska
  
  Problem:
  
  Organised gangs of Muslim rapists preying on kids.
  
  Answer:
  
  Arrest the messenger & gag the media.
  
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  May 27, 2018 5:36pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Once public trust in Law Enforcement is absent, civil unrest is highly probable. Once the public becomes the target of Law Enforcement, civil unrest is guaranteed. The first death (martyr) is what will set it off. One can only hope the the UK government is smart enough to realize this.
    
    Somehow I doubt it.
    
    Parts of the UK have become Islamic states where Sharia trumps Western Law.
    
    You will be arrested for ‘offending’ Muslims who conversely, will be excused from breaking assembly laws in public spaces.
    
    Christopher Hitchens was spot on in his Free Speech address.
    
    FUCK THE UK AND FUCK ISLAM
    
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    May 27, 2018 6:00pm
Longknives

Kiwiblog Sunday Challenge!
Try to read this without Losing your Lunch-

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/104237241/a-meeting-with-the-pie-minister-of-new-zealand

Young Stuff ‘Journalist’ meets our Nation’s heroic leader.
Gush,Gush…
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May 27, 2018 5:27pm
- nasska
  
  It’s a wonder the reporter didn’t climb right up the Princess’ arse & do an in depth series of pap questions.
  
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  May 27, 2018 5:39pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh fabulous…
  After having read the Gayford hagiography in the Guardian, I reckon I’m dosed up to the gills on 1st family sycophancy.
  
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  May 27, 2018 5:39pm
  - Longknives
    
    Putrid isn’t it?
    
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    May 27, 2018 6:34pm
- Duxton
  
  A bit late for lunch, but there goes dinner….
  
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  May 27, 2018 5:40pm
- RF
  
  Oh shit… I was feeling hungry prior to reading that.
  
  Must be tough having a goddess complex and mixing with lowly plebs.
  
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  May 27, 2018 5:46pm
  - Longknives
    
    Just wait until the Baby is born RF!!
    
    *I’m planning on going into the Mountains to live as a Hermit..
    
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    May 27, 2018 6:35pm
    - nasska
      
      What? And miss the changing of the first shitty napkin bought to you live by our fuckwitted media!
      
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      May 27, 2018 6:51pm
      - Longknives
        
        Only a few weeks until the arrival of our new Messiah Nasska!
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW4m5J0D_qM
        
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        May 27, 2018 6:58pm
      - nasska
        
        Pass me the bucket when you’re finished with it!
        
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        May 27, 2018 7:02pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I just shoved the last of a pie in
  
  Megan Woods was hot on the stupid little girl’s tail.
  
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  May 27, 2018 7:04pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Oh that was fucking revolting writing by a reporter Noob Without training. Makes me want to mash a pie. That’s for sure.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:02pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Is this the best that Stuff could find in Taranaki?
  It was supposed to be an interview with the PM, but all the sentences are about the reporter.
  Honey, no one gives a rats arse that you breathe heavy over Jacinda Ardern.
  You need to get out more.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:55pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

Tonight Dianne Swann and her band The Bads with So Alive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfzgMDRyBFU
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May 27, 2018 5:52pm
Pete George

The first poll since the budget, from Newshub/Reid Research:

– National 45.1% (up 0.6%)
– Labour 42.6% (up 0.3%)
– Greens 5.7% (down 0.3%)
– NZ First 2.4% (down 1.2%)

ACT, Maori Party and The Opportunities Party were not mentioned.

Preferred Prime Minister:

– Jacinda Ardern 40.2%
– Simon Bridges 9.0%
– Winston Peters 4.6%
– Judith Collins 3.7%

39% said Peters would do ok in the top job.
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May 27, 2018 6:16pm
- Piniwi
  
  Thanks PG only seem to be click bait titbits on NewShub now and no party poll details. It does however show NZ is in a sorry situation when 40% still hink the silly little girl is the pick for the top job. No surprise their support partners are racing down the road to obscurity but few doubt the old drunk will be gifted a safe seat like he detailed in his 38 page secret agreement.
  
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  May 27, 2018 7:33pm
  - rangitoto
    
    It’s actually difficult for Labour to do that. Which seat were you thinking of.
    
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    May 27, 2018 11:50pm
DigNap15

100% of women’s weekly readers think Jacinda is doing a good job
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May 27, 2018 6:23pm
stigie

“39% said Peters would do ok in the top job.”

You might have that wrong PG, isn’t 7%..?//
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May 27, 2018 6:24pm
- Pete George
  
  “A Newshub-Reid research poll found just 39 percent thought Mr Peters would do well in the job, meaning more than 60 percent didn’t, or were feeling unsure.”
  
  http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/05/what-do-kiwis-think-of-prime-minister-winston-peters.html
  
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  May 27, 2018 6:27pm
- niggly
  
  39% is from tonight’s poll, but OTOH does that mean 61% think Peter’s won’t do ok in the top job?!!! 😉
  
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  May 27, 2018 6:27pm
niggly

When looking at Newshub Reid Research’s “Preferred Prime Minister” ratings from 2012-2017 & how Opposition Leader’s fare, the highest figures were:

Andrew Little peaked at 11.6% on 27/5/2015.

Winston Peters peaked at 12.1% on 22/5/2016, (then dropped, then peaked again at 11/9% on 28/7/2017).

Jacinda Ardern peaked at 10.5% on 19/3/2017 (but then dropped to 6.6% on 12/7/2017) …. but shot up to 26.3% on 8/8/2017 when she became Labour Leader and MSM went into “Jacindamania” overdrive.

So for Simon Bridges to be on 9%, while not ideal, isn’t too unusual for an Opposition leader.

But of course for National, the MSM are still besotted by “Jacindamania” and won’t be promoting any other National Leader, no matter who it is that leads National.

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/new-zealand-election-2017-newshub-reid-research-poll-data-bank.html
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May 27, 2018 6:44pm
- nasska
  
  So long as your arse points downwards you’ll never see our hopelessly biased media promote National or its leader.
  
  Their idea of complete neutrality is ignoring Labour’s cockups & National’s achievements equally.
  
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  May 27, 2018 6:56pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    Someone needs a tissue. You’re like a 3 year old screaming, “it’s not fair!”
    
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    May 27, 2018 7:44pm
    - niggly
      
      No need for tissues for those on the Right, we are saving them for you guys as we’re just waiting until the 2.4% party Leader assumes the Prime Minister role in a couple of weeks ….. the wailing and stamping of feet from the Left especially the Greens and the rest of Labour will see nationwide tissue shortages for sure! 🙂
      
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      May 27, 2018 8:42pm
      - Duxton
        
        And there was I, blaming the nationwide tissue shortage on the chronic masterbater, Shane Jones.
        
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        May 27, 2018 10:47pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  National need to straighten up and fly right -and soo. Bridges is following the polling trend of Angry Little.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:58pm
Rodney Randall

“Mr. Tommy Robinson’s crime is being lower class and aspiring to have a political voice. If he had been an Eaton graduate he would have his own think tank. For this he can be arrested on the street on trumped up charges.

Given Mr. Robinson’s incredible first hand knowledge and experience, it is truly incredible that he is not embraced and supported by his countrymen. I think Rebel media is Canadian?

The upper class in Britain and the upper class Muslims don’t have a problem getting along. But, the British upper class hasn’t figured out that the Muslim lower classes will not bow down to authority, but are ready to cut their throats and rape their kids.” El Cid
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May 27, 2018 6:54pm
- UpandComer
  
  The British upper class aren’t really ‘British’ in anything more then a superficial, rather complex sense.
  
  If you want to get a sense of that – look at the Liveleak video I found below.
  
  Piers Morgan simply ignores and disregards the existence of Sir William Wilberforce and Sir Winston Churchill and their orientations towards Islam and blithely asserts that Tommy Robinson repeating their messages is ‘Islamophobic’, but without addressing whether they are.
  
  Mr Morgan possibly has more of a sense of lineage with David Ben Gurion, Moses Hess, Golda Meir, and other individuals who are only tangentially related to Britain.
  
  Mr Morgan has done more to destroy and pervert free speech with his antics then most people in England. Of course he was there but had no idea when the Mail was hacking cellphones looking for dick-pics.
  
  Thank God we live in New Zealand. The more time you spend looking at what England is now the more oppressive and surreal it feels.
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:00pm
- Jack5
  
  The Spectator’s asking was Tommy Robinson arrested for being Tommy Robinson?
  
  It adds:
  
  Also, wouldn’t it have been lovely if West Yorkshire Police had acted with as much rigour and alacrity when they were first told of the horrific sexual assaults taking place within their community.
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:29pm
UpandComer

If you want to see something absolutely infuriating watch this:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5c5_1497971884

Piers holds himself out as British. But I would question whether England is his first port for loyalty.

Piers was interviewed and called to be a witness during investigations into the hacking of mobile phones for the purposes of tabloid stories – He was at the Daily Mail when they were settling law suits with people for running stories about affairs, marital and financial problems and harassment of people they didn’t like based on phone hacking. He always denied the allegations.

Who could say whether or not Lord Justice Leveson was right when he said that Morgan’s testimony under oath on phone hacking was “utterly unpersuasive”. He stated: “[The] evidence does not establish that [Morgan] authorised the hacking of voicemails or that journalists employed by TMG [Trinity Mirror Group] were indulging in this practice … What it does, however, clearly prove is that he was aware that it was taking place in the press as a whole and that he was sufficiently unembarrassed by what was criminal behaviour that he was prepared to joke about it

Piers’ interview with Tommy is a disgraceful text-book example of establishment facilitation of the Islamification of England.

– Focus on the reaction to terrorist instead of the terrorist event
– Misconstrue cause and effect, saying the effect of outrage towards muslims is causative of attacks, not the other way around
– Character assassination and class imputations – but reverse them.
– The endless ‘not all muslims’ argument as if that’s relevant to probabilities and overall policy, and ignoring that it’s never extended to the locals.
– ‘would you ban all muslims’ question – the equivalent of ‘do you believe in climate change’ or ‘do you believe in God’ . Then saying that sensible screening processes given there are 25,000 ISIS fighters in England is intrinsically racist.
– ‘Calm Down’ – assertion of patrician superiority
– Impute hooliganism and criminality to people whilst ignoring your own. Tommy was the subject of a Mueller enquiry because of his political activities that found missed mortgage payments.
– Don’t answer questions – accuse of Islamophobia (which is a bullshit term that conflates criticism of a religion with criticism of a race), simply deny the existence of prior English leaders like Gladstone and Churchill and their attitudes to Islam, and severe opposition to Islam from it’s English heritage. That’s very interesting for Piers to do given his wife’s connections and his own honorary ‘international’ status. Pretend that when you’re writing a column for the Daily Mail and you’re it’s former editor, that you have no opinion on the editorial narrative of your column.
– Engage in ludicrous histrionics over the stupid Koran – remembering that in England the cops will dive into a culvert to save a Koran, but won’t dive in to save an English boy from drowning – Google it.

Just disgraceful. He is an utterly spurious ridiculous man.

I hope he goes back to Israel for a lovely holiday.

Watch it.
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May 27, 2018 7:54pm
- UpandComer
  
  Isn’t it surreal?
  
  It’s like a foreign universe.
  
  ‘Oh God, that Koran! Don’t make me jump on a spike to stop it touching the earth!
  
  For Pier’s benefit, the bible is vastly less violent in it’s messaging then the Koran.
  
  Britain is now an alliance between the two other people’s of the book. That’s all it is.
  
  How crazy is it going to be when the muslims start taking power and all the LGBTQI has to go underground again and we’re going to see LiveLeaks from Memri of English politicians reverently cradling the Koran and citing passages in favour of conservative dress.
  
  Man it is crazy in England.
  
  Never ever ever let New Zealand get like what you saw on that video.
  
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  May 27, 2018 8:17pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Thankyou for posting the Morgan/Robinson interview again.
    
    I had seen it before. It was staggering revisiting the section at the end where Piers tells Tommy to put the Koran down. I suspect Piers is hamming it up for the cameras although he may genuinely fear network repercussions for allowing Tommy to quote Gladstone and Churchill?
    
    It’s a fairly respectful interview up until that point. Tommy (street smarts) ,naturally, eviscerates (establishment) Piers.
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:11pm
    - UpandComer
      
      Honestly it was a foul pantomime.
      
      I never thought I’d see the day when William Wilberforce, the man who ended slavery in the British empire, can’t be quoted because of his ‘islamophobia’. It’s like a foreign nation state which is a satrapy of the Ottoman empire. It’s like that, because that’s what it is. Except the Ottomans are Israel.
      
      All the allegiances and all the policies and all the rhetoric is so utterly divorced from the English and English traditions. Except for the tradition set by Disraeli. Isn’t it all very strange.
      
      Isn’t it interesting. Every. Single. Time. The talking heads are part of a particular establishment either by lineage or by marriage.
      
      Did you see the latest Munk debate on political correctness? Not once did immigration or Rotherham get mentioned. But what was so interesting was the people purporting to speak on behalf of the west – every single one was Jewish:
      
      Michelle Goldberg
      Mike Dyson – whose adoptive father was Jewish, who was doing the rhythmic back and forth ‘shuckling’ the entire debate.
      Jordan Peterson – whose wife is Jewish, and who has spent a lifetime studying the official version of the Holocaust.
      Stephen Fry – who is also Jewish.
      
      You have these four individuals purporting to tell the world what the west thinks about itself.
      
      Then you have Piers Morgan, whose wife is Jewish. And his co-host, who is Jewish, twitting Tommy Robinson, who is English, for trying to articulate opposition to the destruction of the English by Islam in England.
      
      It would be very interesting – I wonder if you can quote Disraeli in England?
      
      You certainly can’t quote his nemesis Gladstone. So I wonder if you can quote Disraeli?
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/23/ppe-oxford-university-degree-that-rules-britain
      
      Read this article. Replace ‘PPE’ with a nationality – because it describes the same set of people.
      
      Now I’m not making a qualitative assessment or a judgement of any kind. But I’m observing a rather increasingly obvious trend.
      
      The image of that judge smiling with those two policemen as they took Tommy away in the van to die I can’t shake.
      
      These images of sneering establishment individuals banning the quoting of Churchill and Wilberforce in England I can’t shake.
      
      I’m sorry but I’m still highly disturbed watching footage of that arrest. It’s just deeply shocking.
      
      If Hillary won, that would be America. I feel like Australia must be next for the chopping block. All the same strategy is at play.
      
      May God bless us all here in the West in the days ahead.
      
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      May 27, 2018 9:51pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nNKvRZFKACI
        
        Clockwork Orange Police Scene.
        
        Not entirely dissimilar.
        
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        May 27, 2018 10:24pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        This time they’ll make sure Tommy “stays cured”
        
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        May 27, 2018 10:30pm
Morrissey

The mask has been pulled off.

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/05/25/the-mask-has-been-pulled-off-israelis-are-nazis-nazis-are-israelis-the-assassins-along-the-concentration-camp-fence-target-children-for-goofs/
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May 27, 2018 7:58pm
Morrissey

A supporter of the assassination of children has registered with us. Shame on you, you callous piece of scum.
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May 27, 2018 8:04pm
Morrissey

Missing. Inaction.

And we thought Bill English was useless….

https://thestandard.org.nz/where-the-fck-is-simon-bridges/
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May 27, 2018 8:08pm
cha

Only twelve men walked on the surface of the Moon. We’re down to four.

We're saddened by the passing of astronaut Alan Bean. The fourth person to walk on the Moon, he spent 10+ hours on the lunar surface during Apollo 12. Bean was spacecraft commander of Skylab Mission II & devoted his retirement to painting. Family release: https://t.co/bX8eXNQlSq pic.twitter.com/NJPQULjGlw— NASA (@NASA) May 26, 2018
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May 27, 2018 8:32pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  If we could put a man on the moon 50years ago in 1969, why can’t we put a man on the moon in 2018?
  
  In Musk we trust.
  
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  May 27, 2018 9:23pm
  - sooty
    
    Are you sure they put men on the moon?
    
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    May 27, 2018 9:47pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Yes, yes we are.
      
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      May 27, 2018 10:53pm
    - Lance
      
      sooty… you obviously didn’t get the memo. The moonbats have all slunk back under the covers now there is multiple sources of high res images from everyman and his dog of the landing sites. Even the Chinese ran a rover past one of the landing sites and published lots of photos.
      The only response was from the most fucked in the head types was that China was in on the conspiracy as well.
      Nuff said
      
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      May 28, 2018 12:48am
  - Lance
    
    Trouble is it would take a shit load of money nobody wants to spend. It was a shit load of money that drove the Apollo program.
    Throw a few trillion at NASA and the miracles will start all over again.
    
    Mind you….
    Apollo was way cheaper than a war. Which was the intent back then.
    
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    May 28, 2018 12:44am
sooty

Is child support cancelled when the child dies?
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May 27, 2018 9:46pm
- Duxton
  
  It is meant to be. Why?
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:57pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Yes, but liability for any debt to IRD remains.
  
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  May 27, 2018 11:03pm
Philview

This has probably been covered but interested to read of the Congressional hearing in the USA raising concerns over Chinese Communist Party links with the NZ Coalition Government.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/chinese-communist-party-link-claimed
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May 27, 2018 10:02pm
- Rich Prick
  
  One lot of Commies funding another lot should come as no surprise. Our Stupid Little Bint would have grabbed the cash.
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:12pm
  - cha
    
    And the appointment of PLA connected Yang Jian to a sensitive select committee?
    
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    May 27, 2018 10:29pm
- cha
  
  National’s Yang Jian seems to be cause for concern, too.
  
  https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/transcripts/Hearing%20Transcript%20-%20April%205%2C%202018_0.pdf
  
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  May 27, 2018 10:27pm
Rodney Randall

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/26/hungarian-deputy-pm-islamic-invasion-reduce-europeans-minority/amp/#click=https://t.co/8J8GrKL868
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May 27, 2018 10:15pm
softail 1450

winston first’s party 2.4%, hes been missing for weeks i bet he starts coming out with a few great well thought out dog whistle statements when he returns from his current holiday.
he will probably be pm when parliament returns so we have a 2.4% prime minister running the country,
only in nz, and only with mmp.FFS
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May 28, 2018 6:52am
Viking2

I wonder if Miss Devoy has time to comment on this racist prick.

I don’t know much about history, and not enough yet about te ao Māori, but I know in my gut that Māori were in the centre of it all from the start, and we still are.

I promise pākehā who choose to take our hands that they are part of something bigger too.

You see, Māori are the people who had crummy neighbours move next door. First, things started going missing around the yard, then the house. The grey arches of the pergola were packed away, carried over the fence. The roof slates peeled off the rafters. The comforting tick of the carriage clock gone, along with the clock. Now it’s too damn quiet in the front hall.

Yup, we ended up with thieving pākehā for neighbours.

Actually, many peoples round the world ended up with thieving pākehā for neighbours.

They cleaned out everything and now their children are clopping the street draped in our grandparents’ valuables and our partner’s shoes. Everything that was ours is theirs, and somehow it’s even worse that they aren’t even taking care of it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104216640/joel-maxwell-thieving-pkeh-neighbours-have-been-stealing-our-stuff-for-years

The world won’t end if mana-enhancing changes happen. It will actually get better. But regardless, uninterested pākehā get to keep doing what they do best: being the pinky-white constant in the background of the Great Show that is our nation’s recent history.

Instead, it appears plenty of pākehā were invigorated by an opportunity to vote against the brown guy. He is after all, just a despot in pauper’s clothing.

For all of it in case Stuff decide to remove it.
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Joel Maxwell: Thieving pākehā neighbours have been stealing our stuff for years

Don Esslemont helped overthrow Māori wards in Palmerston North, and wouldn’t even listen to a mihi.

OPINION: Go home, whitey.

That, right there, is exactly the kind of inappropriate sentence to which some in New Zealand think they will wake up one morning and read in their newspaper.

Dabbing their pink brows, barking outrage, these people know that, given a chance, Māori would ship them back to wherever they or their ancestors came from. And that’s if they’re lucky.

Joel Maxwell: “We ended up with thieving pākehā for neighbours … And what’s worse is that nobody hates having their own stuff stolen more than thieves.”

These people are fizzing with paranoia. And the truth is this: being a lousy person makes you paranoid. You throw out suspicion like space junk in perpetual orbit around your rotten little soul.

Paranoia won big last week. A swath of referendums around the country crushed the latest decent and reasonable efforts by councillors to create Māori wards in places like Manawatū, Palmerston North and Whakatāne.

I have written about the wards before – that, unlike other council wards, they could be undone by referendums. I didn’t feel confident about their chances for survival.

Even so, there were a couple of things that struck me about the poll results. Firstly, the return rate was astonishingly high – nudging returns for actual council elections – and so was the anti-Māori vote. Secondly, the phrase “we’re all in this together” never seemed so terrifying.
It’s been a long time since William Hobson drafted the Treaty of Waitangi, but sometimes it doesn’t feel like it.
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It’s been a long time since William Hobson drafted the Treaty of Waitangi, but sometimes it doesn’t feel like it.

There is apparently a chunk of pākeha in the middle of everything, bridging the Left and Right, operating from fear and its associates, spite and stupidity.

They live right over our fence.

You see, Māori are the people who had crummy neighbours move next door. First, things started going missing around the yard, then the house. The grey arches of the pergola were packed away, carried over the fence. The roof slates peeled off the rafters. The comforting tick of the carriage clock gone, along with the clock. Now it’s too damn quiet in the front hall.

Yup, we ended up with thieving pākehā for neighbours.

Actually, many peoples round the world ended up with thieving pākehā for neighbours.

They cleaned out everything and now their children are clopping the street draped in our grandparents’ valuables and our partner’s shoes. Everything that was ours is theirs, and somehow it’s even worse that they aren’t even taking care of it.

Our Prius has camel bumps in the ceiling after they shoved our washing machine in the back and drove them both through the fence to their carport. For kicks they shanked the radiator with a screwdriver – our screwdriver.

Our beautiful home, naked, battered, cold, looks like the operating table moments after medical malpractice.

It all used to be ours, and now it’s theirs.

And what’s worse is that nobody hates having their own stuff stolen more than thieves. They glare over the fence and complain bitterly to neighbours about how shifty we look. They are paranoid.

The preservation of history, which is really the attempt to capture moments of time itself, is a profound study. Preserving someone else’s memories makes us human. We catch the information buzzing through their neurons and hold it in our hands.

But history only works if you are honest. Paranoia doesn’t breed honesty.

I cannot even begin to understand how such a crime – the theft and alienation of an entire people’s home – could happen in plain sight for so long in front of pākehā. I guess it creaked along, glacially, over decades of confiscations and battles. People were busy with other things.

I guess too that, during that time, many pākehā looked the other way while their kin picked our pockets.

Man, I would love some of that indifference right now with things like these creepy referendums. I would love the sweet, bracing blast of “Meh”; pākehā throwing up their hands in unison and saying as one, “We don’t care either way if Māori have a fraction of their mana returned through fairer treatment, so we won’t vote in your boring referendum”.

The world won’t end if mana-enhancing changes happen. It will actually get better. But regardless, uninterested pākehā get to keep doing what they do best: being the pinky-white constant in the background of the Great Show that is our nation’s recent history.

Instead, it appears plenty of pākehā were invigorated by an opportunity to vote against the brown guy. He is after all, just a despot in pauper’s clothing.

Which, all said and done, makes the support, curiosity and love of other pākehā toward Māori even more powerfully important. And frankly extraordinary. Strong character, decency, kindness shouldn’t be a surprise, but too often it is (especially in ourselves).

The lies of those that whine about special treatment would push Māori to the background of our nation’s history, make them a footnote in their own story.

I don’t know much about history, and not enough yet about te ao Māori, but I know in my gut that Māori were in the centre of it all from the start, and we still are.

I promise pākehā who choose to take our hands that they are part of something bigger too.
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