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Longknives

Trump pardons Jack Johnson- Continues to prove he is the Greatest President of my Lifetime!

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/24/politics/sylvester-stallone-jack-johnson-donald-trump/index.html
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May 25, 2018 8:03am
- Scott
  
  And furthermore on all things Trump – remember when Trump tweeted last year that the Obama administration was spying on him? And he was roundly lambasted as paranoid by every media commentator.
  
  Well it seems clear that the Obama administration was spying on the Trump campaign and the incoming Trump administration. They don’t use the word “spy”. They use the word “informant”. And it was for Trump’s own good because the Obama administration was just keeping tabs on the Russians. And so it’s all okay, move on, nothing to see here.
  
  Actually this is probably one of the biggest scandals in US politics ever. The whole weight of the Obama administration including the FBI and the Justice Department and the mainstream media actively colluded to stop Donald Trump becoming president and then to derail his presidency once he assumed office. They spied on the Trump campaign which was exactly the type of offence that Richard Nixon was pilloried for decades ago.
  
  But the truth will come out and it will not be pretty for CNN, Obama, James Clapper, James Comey and a whole host of thoroughly disreputable characters. Trump was right. He was being spied on! And that is disgraceful.
  
  http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/comey-clapper-clarify.php
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:16am
  - Harkman
    
    What about how he called Clapper a “lying machine?”
    
    Sounds like our current government.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:49am
  - VicParking
    
    Do people sit there each day after day and say. Look our curtains are mouldy, look there is mould on the roof.
    If you get up in the morning, dry your washing in the lounge (because it gets stolen off the line), lock the house up and go to work and not wonder where all the water goes when you find your clothes dry.
    Clothes dry, curtains and roof wet, Blame the landlord
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:56am
  - stephieboy
    
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    And a miffed Trump withdraws from the much heralded and groundbreaking talks with Kim Jong-un and North Korea.
    
    Whats going on there, President Donnie,
    
    LOL
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:06am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      “Whats going on there, President Donnie”
      
      More than you would ever understand, you silly little boy.
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:18am
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy, still no improvement still a cretin .
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:53am
    - Ed Snack
      
      One of the key parts of being a successful negotiator – you must have the option to walk away from the table.
      
      Trump’s just demonstrated that he can and will walk away if necessary. You don’t want to go into a negotiation with your hands tied in advance.
      
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      May 25, 2018 11:26am
      - igm
        
        Or give opposing parties plane loads of cash.
        
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        May 25, 2018 3:00pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Ed Snack, well who would have guessed with those like you Trumpeting on about your leader’s success in bringing forth peace in our time on the Korean Peninsula?
        
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        May 25, 2018 3:22pm
      - Ross12
        
        Do not worry stephieboy NK has responded already , desperate to have a meeting. They will have to wait on China’s next move first.
        
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        May 25, 2018 4:31pm
  - Fletch
    
    Did you see what author Roger Stone said about Brennan the other day?
    
    “John Brennan should pop the glass capsule and take the cyanide now,” Stone told host Amanda House, Breitbart News’s deputy political editor. “He’s the perp who started the entire Russian dossier matter. He’s lied about it under oath. He’s going to die in a federal penitentiary.”
    
    http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2018/05/22/stone-brennan-pop-glass-capsule-take-cyanide-die-penitentiary/
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:35am
    - stephieboy
      
      Fletch, Roger Stone has a lot to answer for ,
      
      Roger Stone acknowledges he might be indicted
      
      The longtime Republican operative and Trump ally says he’s “prepared” to be indicted by special counsel Robert Mueller.
      
      https://www.vox.com/2018/5/20/17373864/roger-stone-indictment-mueller-wikileaks-russia
      
      LOL!
      
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      May 25, 2018 3:24pm
      - Harkman
        
        And his crime is? Emailing wikileaks, lol.
        
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        May 25, 2018 4:01pm
  - Piniwi
    
    While Scott one snowflake atavist is claiming foul because Donald Trump has blocked her from his Tweet access. Claiming it is a block on free speech and contravenes the first Amendment? Dumb is as dumb does. It is HIS tweet account and he has the right to administer it how he pleases.
    
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    May 25, 2018 3:42pm
artemisia

There’s a new crisis today. Curtains.

And the article includes a truly disgusting photo of a mouldy curtain and window surrounds. If that is typical, then curtains are the least of the problem.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104168700/
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May 25, 2018 8:08am
- Longknives
  
  I read the first paragraph- It’s honestly like something out of Viz magazine..
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:12am
  - kowtow
    
    Yep , the real crisis is in the media , they are shit.
    
    Last night on tv1 news they had 2 back to back media releases on behalf of Greenpeace , dressed up as “news”.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:15am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      People who watch TV1 news deserve what they get.
      
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      May 25, 2018 8:27am
      - kowtow
        
        Know your enemy.
        
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        May 25, 2018 8:30am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I agree that RNZ and TV1 are becoming mouthpieces for Greenpeace press releases.
      
      We could save lots of public money by dumping RNZ and TV1 researchers/journalists and announcers and just hand over the whole shebang to Comrade Norman and Co.
      
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      May 25, 2018 8:46am
      - stephieboy
        
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        Maggy Wassilief , giving a brief for Pierre Gosselin and his No Tricks Zone?
        
        LOL
        
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        May 25, 2018 9:12am
    - stephieboy
      
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      kowtow, MSM instead of focussing on spurious Muslim no-go zones claims in Melbourne?
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:09am
      - Manolo
        
        stephieboy, you ought to pay Melbourne a visit and see for yourself the havoc your African mates and fellow Muslims are making.
        
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        May 25, 2018 9:12am
      - stephieboy
        
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        Manolo , so you can verify, attest and have visited Muslim no-go zones in Melbourne?
        
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        May 25, 2018 9:19am
      - freethinker
        
        Perhaps the west should follow the shining examples of Zimbabwe and shortly S Africa in expropriating white Farmers land and repatriate their race back home in return forthe west welcoming their white Farmers. And when S Africa turns in into the shithole of Zimbabwe and Venezuela the west should remind them that African problems best solved by Africans so no help from the whites you despise.
        
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        May 25, 2018 9:23am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Take a tram/unit out to Melbourne West and then tell us how comfortable you feel, stephieboy.
        http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/sudanese-athlete-says-police-and-pollies-need-to-wake-up-to-gang-problem/news-story/cb90fd83bbe59d51d963d46518022d08
        
        (And yes, I’m a regular visitor to Melbourne)
        
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        May 25, 2018 9:37am
      - GoVege
        
        The sheer ingratitude of these refugees is what gets me.
        They should be dumped back in the Sudan.
        Not hard to see why it’s a war zone with savagery like theirs.
        
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        May 25, 2018 10:54am
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, visiting an area and having a subjective reaction that it makes you feel uncomfortable or fearful is very different from an area you can’t or are forbidden to visit.
        
        And no matter how many time you have visited the Melbourne
        
        Next time remove your paranoid and fear shades and look at things more objectively and rationally.
        
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        May 25, 2018 12:08pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        You don’t need to lecture me about No-Go areas, stephieboy.
        Clearly you don’t know a damn thing about where I live.
        Feel free to wander around my hillslope on Kaiti.
        Most of Gisborne give it a wide berth.
        Suits me though.
        
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        May 25, 2018 2:49pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, visited kati hill a number of times. A weak inference from you that it is a no-go zone .
        
        Pathetic
        
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        May 25, 2018 3:27pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        SB Next time you visit Kaiti you need to remove your denial shades and look at things more objectively and rationally – like the people who live there do everyday.
        Real life tends to put an end to idealistic claptrap.
        
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        May 25, 2018 5:37pm
    - Fletch
      
      That story about the poor couple who bought a section for their house, only to be told they couldn’t build on it because the area was likely to be swamped by the sea in the future because of “climate change” – that was the biggest load of bollocks. Who was the arse that made that decision?
      
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      May 25, 2018 10:37am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Who was the arse that made that decision?
        
        Probably someone who wants to pick up a nice piece of coastal estate at a knock-down price.
        
        I haven’t noticed that houses or sections in low-lying coastal locations like Pauanui or Papamoa are hard to sell. The rich folks aren’t too worried by a few cm rise in sea-level over the next 50 years.
        
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        May 25, 2018 11:28am
- brett68
  
  That’s an ad for the warehouse.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:13am
  - artemisia
    
    No, it is an ad for curtains to be included in the minimum standards MBIE is to put together for the Parliament under the Healthy Homes Guarantee Act.
    
    Not just any curtains, have to be thermal of course.
    
    And only for rentals, owners will just have to buy their own as they are excluded from the HHG Act.
    
    The $61o per family HHI get, according to the article, is just not enough for curtains. They want more money. What a surprise.
    
    But much better to make landlords pay.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:35am
    - Muttonbird
      
      Curtains are fixed chattels, they are the owner’s responsibility.
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:03am
      - KevOB
        
        The tenants have a duty of care both to the owner of the curtains and to themselves and their family.
        
        This is a no-issue: stupid gets as stupid does.
        Next someone is going to advocate that aircraft jet intakes cannot be used as toilets.
        
        Only a Green-Labour combo would consider trying to legislate out the duhness of the human varietals.
        
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        May 25, 2018 9:38am
    - KevOB
      
      The curtains don’t care. If they are not ventilated and washed sometimes expect mould.
      Expect legislation following a panel of experts investigation local and overseas and report on:
      “Requirements for landlords to be responsible for tenant mould prevention and other stupidity arising out of any tenancy or other disposition for a term fixed or otherwise of any interest in any property that would otherwise be deemed habitable.”
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:33am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      My so-in-law had three rentals in Tauranga up till 3 years ago. Even under the National govt. he could see what was happening – landlords arseholes, tenants goodies – so he sold them and invested in commercial property.
      
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      May 25, 2018 10:21am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Capitalist bastard
        Bet he airs his house out too.
        
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        May 25, 2018 2:08pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  People who are that hard up improvise.
  I thought that was the ‘kiwi way’.
  
  Just takes half a brain – oh, wait . . .
  
  (talking of curtains – did that make you think of the msm hacks ?)
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:13am
  - Inandout
    
    The mouldy people don’t have the no 8 wire mindset unfortunately.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:18am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      Yeah – maybe they could do some hakas to warm up.
      I don’t think they’d like being called mouldy either *wink*
      
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      May 25, 2018 8:23am
- Inandout
  
  MSM, the place you visit to get your daily dose of depression. Many renters would rather be on Facebook than open a few windows. One thing about living under a bridge is that there is no mould.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:16am
  - GoVege
    
    Why are the poor long-suffering taxpayers having to shell out $1000 per person per week for a room in a motel?
    If they can’t afford to live in Auckland there are lots of nice places a lot cheaper.
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:58am
- secondcumming
  
  Reminds me of the time I met a pretty young redhead in a bar and she invited me back to her place……my first thought was whether the carpet matched the drapes 🙁
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:26am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    And did it?
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:19am
    - secondcumming
      
      Wet & Forget
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:31am
      - kowtow
        
        Spray and walk away?
        
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        May 25, 2018 10:04am
      - marcw
        
        30 seconds … sympathy.
        
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        May 25, 2018 10:45am
      - RF
        
        30 seconds. Now I am impressed….
        
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        May 25, 2018 12:39pm
  - Fletch
    
    Haha – actually, I’ve been listening to the radio in my car and one of the ads of Magness Benrow (spelling?) talks about whether the curtains match the carpet. I don’t think they know what they did there.
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:42am
- alloytoo
  
  The photo in question was sourced here:
  
  https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/old-window-torn-curtain-background-black-476472937?irgwc=1&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=TinEye&utm_source=77643&utm_term=
  
  It’s by a Turkish photographer
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:52am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Well spotted, alloytoo.
    
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    May 25, 2018 11:14am
  - artemisia
    
    Perhaps they could have used the photo at the following recent link – the one labelled “The door in Tipora Grennell’s Christchurch City Council-owned unit, a block building that gets little sun, is black with mould.”
    
    Only problem is there is no curtain in the photo, but if there was it would be ideal for the article. The tenant is clearly unacquainted with regular cleaning.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/103343117/where-homes-are-the-most-damp-mouldy-and-costly-to-heat-in-nz
    
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    May 25, 2018 4:13pm
- ex-golfer
  
  Open the damn window and let air flow through.
  Mould will not occur.
  Its not hard.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:04am
- Rich Prick
  
  In around 3200 cases, there was a curtains “intervention” following those visits.
  
  WTF? What is wrong with these people?
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:55am
  - artemisia
    
    I believe the correct term is ‘life incompetent’.
    
    Not to worry though, the nanny state will rescue them, and make the landlords pay.
    
    If there are any landlords left, that is.
    
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    May 25, 2018 11:46am
- G152
  
  Don’t these people know how to house keep ?.
  How to wash fabrics, clean walls, air out rooms and generally maintain a house…
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:03am
  - GoVege
    
    They don’t know how to cook either, or how not to ruin a lawn by not driving on it.
    They were probably dragged up by people who wanted their child support money, not them.
    
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    May 25, 2018 2:47pm
- Random T Person
  
  Utter stupidity. My windows (half are single glazed, half double – the realities of living in an old /rennoed house) are cleaner in winter than summer because they get wiped down every morning…
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:07am
- Flash
  
  If anyone was living in that place I’d be very surprised. Its a library stock photo.
  
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  May 25, 2018 4:01pm
Humble Capitalist

Who is it going to be for an own goal today?
Did anyone see Greg O’Connor in the budget speeches yesterday? What an absolute raving pillock who drew sarcastic applause for his shocking ‘speech’.
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May 25, 2018 8:17am
- GazzaW
  
  O’Connor has already firmly cemented his position as a single term MP.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:21am
  - matchbox
    
    Should anyone want to put themselves through the agony of it:
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjZ6DhX6W1M
    
    Good luck in attempting to last the full five minutes.
    
    WARNING:
    View at your own risk: you might never view Parliament in the same light again.
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:52am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      I lasted two and a half minutes. My God, what a blithering idiot.
      
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      May 25, 2018 11:20am
    - lifesgood
      
      Oh my God. This COL is the most entertaining thing ever. Seems like he’s had a wee puff of something, positively trembling as he shouted. He can’t say his “s” properly so the best bit was when he said “As you shit here” lol. But bloody hell, Astrolabe Reefs, bolts of lightening, thunder clouds, sounds like he’s describing his own party. I have lost all respect for the people of Ohariu for electing this clown.
      
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      May 25, 2018 12:51pm
    - Kiwi Dave
      
      To be fair, he showed considerable mastery of anacoluthons, cliches and distracting gestures for five fact-free minutes without committing himself or the government to more than ‘It’s a great budget for NZ and the opposition are too negative .’ No one will ever be able to accuse him later of demonstrable, factual error.
      
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      May 25, 2018 1:10pm
      - Harkman
        
        What a communist, “share the wealth.”
        
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        May 25, 2018 4:11pm
      - GoVege
        
        “Sharing the wealth” isn’t communism, Harkman.
        It’s Christian charity and compassion .. 🙂
        
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        May 25, 2018 5:41pm
  - RF
    
    Yep… even the deputy speaker Poto Williams was getting really pissed off and telling him to tone it down on several occasions plus instructing him to address her rather than grandstanding to the almost empty chamber.
    
    An absolute tosser that was high on something.
    
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    May 25, 2018 4:04pm
- softail 1450
  
  H C ,very simple actually someone needs to ask him if hes still smoking dope. he was a heavy user when he was an actual police detective.FFS.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:33am
- kowtow
  
  Weren’t National wooing him ?
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:01am
  - kowtow
    
    And Shane Jones ?
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:18am
- RF
  
  He is bloody embarrising.
  
  What in the bloody hell was he on.
  
  The stories about him are unfortunately true…….
  
  On Red Nose Day he does not need to wear a plastic nose….
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:02am
- oldgolfer
  
  I did as you asked and looked and I fear my week – which was going well – has been ruined.
  Oh. My. God.
  
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  May 25, 2018 11:18am
oldpark

Fake news strikes again.What is it with the type of headline NZ has been getting this week.
First it was the attention seeking “Hallucinating Homophobic” Mallard.
Now we see today in another arm of Coalition of Corruption and Chaos news outlet the Dom Post person a called Andrea Vance.
Seems Vance got the bums rush from Coalition of Corruption and Chaos main propaganda outlet TVNZ
Vance has now re-invented herself over to the Dom Post.Not to be outdone by the attention seeking drama her buddy buddy mate “Hallucinating Homophobic “Mallard got . Vance has gone for Sensationalism in a front page headline.
It reads “The End of Sharemilking”?What a bloody stupid panic type of fake news,with the wrong type of message and attention to the other world wide fake news outlets.
Vance was useless in TVNZ and is it even possible she will be an even bigger disaster fake news reporter in Dominion Post.
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May 25, 2018 8:19am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Pity we can’t send her back to where she was trained for “quality journalism”: News of the World or some such scummy rag.
  
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  May 25, 2018 2:15pm
wreck1080

Police carried out a sting on Turret Rd yesterday targeting drivers using their mobile phones. During the 7.45am to 9.30am operation officers caught 27 offenders. Of those, 25 were women.

“It’s just very surprising. I would never have imagined we would have got 27,” Western Bay of Plenty acting head of road policing Sergeant Wayne Hunter said.

Hunter said most of the people caught were so absorbed by their phones, they did not notice the police cars or officers watching them from the side of the road.

“That’s the thing. Police weren’t even hiding. Police were standing on the side of the road. They were obviously so distracted they didn’t even see them there. To me it’s concerning.”

Women eh, who’d a thought ?
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May 25, 2018 8:19am
- Lance
  
  A couple of weeks back I had to swerve violently to miss a fucking mobile crane that crossed onto my side of the street going around a bend. The driver had a cellphone to his ear, driving one handed.
  I wish so bad I had a dash cam.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:23am
- GazzaW
  
  It’s irrelevant what gender the drivers are. Bring in a decent deterrent like a $500 fine and six months loss of license. These pricks are just as bad as Twyford in thinking that their phone calls are more important than other people’s lives.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:26am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    A better idea would be to just permanently confiscate the phone right there and then.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:31am
    - kowtow
      
      It’s not the phone that’s the problem , it’s the operator.
      If you’re prepared to endanger the lives and property of those around you , then you’re not a fit and proper person to be driving at all.
      
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      May 25, 2018 8:50am
    - redeye
      
      Aren’t cell phones a human right?
      
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      May 25, 2018 8:55am
      - matchbox
        
        Yep. It’s in the Bible.
        
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        May 25, 2018 11:01am
  - RalphT
    
    And perhaps a third strike law; get caught doing it three times and its permanent loss of licence.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:42am
  - kowtow
    
    It will and should happen . But even though it’s obvious for all to see it won’t happen till a busload or some other major single incident pushes the idiots in parliament into action.
    
    Meanwhile left ministers are discussing a ban on plastic bags.
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:00am
    - lifesgood
      
      They need to target pedestrians too. I have very nearly scuttled a few half wits who have just stepped onto the road without thinking because their phone call is more important.
      
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      May 25, 2018 10:11am
      - Kabull
        
        Even worse are the cyclists who are texting while riding – yes, sounds ridiculous but I have been narrowly missed by such an idiot on Petone waterfront.
        
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        May 25, 2018 11:30am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        And the driver might then face ‘manslaughter’ charges, even if they don’t stick. Plus of course the pain/guilt involved, even if one knew it was the phoning pedestrian’s fault.
        
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        May 25, 2018 12:07pm
- kowtow
  
  “It’s just very surprising. I would never have imagined we would have got 27,” Western Bay of Plenty acting head of road policing Sergeant Wayne Hunter said.’
  
  Well that’s one head of road policing who needs to get out more. Every time I drive now I see at least one seriously distracted driver.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:34am
  - DigNap15
    
    The police made a big mistake, back when this law first came in.
    They should have got tough on it the next day.
    But instead they just ignored the law breakers, so now everyone thinks its OK.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:49am
    - freethinker
      
      Interesting that Police Officers in uniform are exempt so just shows what happens to the brain when you don a Blue Uniform but then many already know that it turns a brain with common sense capability into a piece of bureaucratic shit.
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:31am
      - calendar girl
        
        Most of our Police Officers do a fine job, and I for one am very relieved that NZ has such a force.
        
        They’re not perfect, of course – no such institution ever is – but I shudder at the alternative of living under the kinds of shadows cast by some of the world’s less responsible police forces.
        
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        May 25, 2018 10:44am
  - wreck1080
    
    I reckon there is a red light runner or someone accelerates through an orange in 9/10 traffic light phase changes.
    
    If I were in government ha ha ha…..
    
    Introduce cheaply trained and salaried ‘wardens’ to enforce simple road law breaches like failing to signal, running lights, mobile phone usage etc.
    
    Revenue is plowed back into financing the operating cost of the wardens.
    
    Wardens register the plates of fleeing drivers and the registered owner of that vehicle can be fined for failing to stop.
    
    This frees up cops from mundane enforcement and should improve overall policing! I get that this is a bit like the old days of traffic police but wardens scope would be far more limited than the olden day traffic cops.
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:34am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      “failing to signal”
      
      Oh boy, esp. when I’m a pedestrian this pisses me off so much. Drivers thinking pedestrians don’t need to know what the car is doing next.
      
      The weird thing is that every driver is also a pedestrian, but some seem to forget that when driving.
      
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      May 25, 2018 12:12pm
- cmm
  
  “I would never have imagined we would have got 27”
  
  What planet is Sergeant Wayne Hunter on? Here in Chch you could write up 27 in less than 2 minutes.
  
  A few months ago a silly bitch nearly crashed her flash Jag into me while on the phone. Well, more precisely, two phones. She had one in each hand and was trying to negotiate a rather tricky intersection, seemingly involved in two conversations at the same time.
  
  I had to take evasive action. If I’d been in my 25-year old shitbox van I would have probably just let her crash into me.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:37am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  It’s a silly law. Having one hand on the wheel is not the problem. Not paying attention is the problem and it makes no difference whether the driver is distracted by the phone, by the kids in the back seat, or by a conversation using hands-free technology.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:42am
  - kowtow
    
    Yes it was always careless driving , an offence that was already on the books.
    
    Parliament had to pretend to be doing something.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:52am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Agree, there’s some support from studies that show that phones are not in fact the largest cause of distraction accidents though that may be changing. Attending to the music being played was always a factor, might be less so now if the phone is used as an MP3 source.
    
    And I think it is generally agreed that texting is worse than talking on the phone. After all a proper “hands free” kit makes it legal to make and receive calls in a car as the driver. Texting takes one’s eyes off the road unless you are one of those rare “touch-texters”.
    
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    May 25, 2018 11:35am
    - cmm
      
      Even Facebooking and texting at the lights is bad enough.
      
      When you’re at the lights you are supposed to be observing what is going on around you. It is called “situational awareness”.
      
      I once tooted at a woman doing this. She must have thought I was tooting because the lights had changed. She immediately put the phone down and started driving forwards even though the lights were still red.
      
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      May 25, 2018 3:22pm
- MrLovebucket
  
  All this proves is that Police are sexist and need to change the way they police until they nab equal proportions of both male, female and other.
  
  Speaking of gender, if I had $10 for every gender…. I’d have $20 and a load of fake money.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:52am
Lance

It’s an interesting issue as there are quite a number of people who won’t heat their houses as (rightly or wrongly) they are afraid of the power bills.
Problem is it leads to mold and health problems.
I know of one property management company that are tearing their hair out with mold damage expenses. They install heat pumps etc but the tenants won’t use them.
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May 25, 2018 8:20am
- brett68
  
  Problem is most times the landlords go with the cheapest heat pump option.
  
  Under size a heat pump and you’re looking at a huge power bill for very little heating.
  
  Also education would help a lot, people don’t realize that the heat pump in the lounge is just for heating the lounge not the whole house.
  
  A house properly set out with heat pumps will have a heat pump in every bedroom plus a big heat pump in the lounge/ktichen area.
  
  3 bedroom house will set you back around 10k if you want to heat it effectively with heat pumps, house has to be insulated as well.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:58am
  - Lance
    
    Doesn’t matter, they still won’t turn it on
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:12am
    - brett68
      
      Probably because they’ve been burnt by previous experiences.
      
      Bit of education may help.
      
      Best bet is to install a wood fire with a heat transfer kit and include the cost of wood in with the rent
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:20am
      - freethinker
        
        Good idea but the bureacraps have deemed burning wood to be a cause of climate change so best let the Kauri and Rimu wind blown over trees to rot and release their carbon rather than using the timber or burning it and replacing with new trees to provide a carbon neutral cycle.
        
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        May 25, 2018 9:36am
    - cmm
      
      … or clean the filters etc. If you don’t clean the filters regularly a heatpump’s effectiveness is significantly reduced.
      
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      May 25, 2018 3:24pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Yep, and that’s what we’ve done. Pretty good cost estimate.
    
    Cheaper and more controllable than putting in a bigger central unit as unless you spent quite a bit more individual rooms cannot easily be controlled from a central unit. There are units to do that, at a price.
    
    And the heat pumps work very well – we use them in winter to heat and in summer to cool when it’s too hot at night. Only complaint if you call it that is the limited cooling – only goes down to around 18 degrees, which is usually enough but sometimes a bit more would be nice.
    
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    May 25, 2018 11:40am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Few years ago the problem child rented a property for a while and when she vacated the landlord insisted she clean the mould off the bathroom.
  She told me it wasn’t her fault the property was damp and asked for help to clean the walls/ceiling or she’d lose her bond.
  Silly me agreed. Arrived at the property, pulled the plug out of the bath and told her she made the problem, either clean it up or pay up.
  Don’t know how it ended.
  Lost interest.
  
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  May 25, 2018 2:25pm
softail 1450

Im giving out the top 10 march/may kiwiblog COL nicknames
1 Willie”make it out to cash”Jackson,
2 Meghan”3 pies woods”
3 Winston” porky pies” peters
4 Phil “what possum what headlights”twyford
5 Shane “i’ll pick the video tonight”jones
6 Claire “its not so clear”curran
7 Nannaia”its not a curry stain”mahuta
8 Andrew”let them out”little
9 Julianne”cull old white men”genter
10 Jacinda”stupid little girl”arderne
Personally i think “3 pies woods” is the best by far,i think it was coined by Poppa but I may be wrong.
the information on K B is very good but the humor on the blog is excellent IMHO…..
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May 25, 2018 8:23am
- Harkman
  
  4. Should be “of shit” Twyford
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:29am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  You forgot
  Kelvin “Huh, how did I get here? Davis.
  Chris “Schools Out” Hipkins.
  Trevor “I’ll protect you” Mallard.
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:53am
- Garbageman
  
  “Nannaia”its not a curry stain”mahuta”
  You can have an official stooopidboy LOL for that one
  
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  May 25, 2018 2:22pm
Happychappy

When is Parliament going to get a opology from the the speaker of the House Trevor Mallard or proof that a National MP called the PM Jacinda Ardern a stupid little girl as he dicribed to a Journalist. Without proof or facts this comment was made and given Mallards previous history as a MP how can you take his word especially after braking prodical by releasing what was his view and the statement know one else heard except him. This is point scoring from the Speaker for his Party and should be slapped down by a neural media.
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May 25, 2018 8:26am
- cmm
  
  “neural media”? Nope there is no evidence they have a brain.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:40am
- calendar girl
  
  Some proceedings of the present Parliament have become increasingly demeaning under the unduly-irascible Speaker, Hon. Trevor Mallard. Especially at Question Time. Yesterday’s QT was quite undignified, for which the Speaker must accept major responsibility.
  
  Mallard lacks the personal charm, equilibrium and dignity to be able to conduct a fair Question Time that will facilitate the Opposition’s fundamental constitutional duty, namely, holding the Government to account.
  
  How can Mallard, in all logic, chastise or even dismiss (i.e. ‘name’) an MP for something said in the House that he as Speaker declines to define or to put on the Parliamentary record? How can present or future Members – or the public at large – ever know the basis of Speakers’ rulings which may come to be used to constrain future conduct or language in the House?
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:47am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I think it can be played along for another fortnight at least (until the House convenes).
  
  Everyday we could enquire if the utterer of “The Prime Minister is a silly little girl” has been outed.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:54am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Oh Goodness, we need an investigation..
    
    Just what did Mallard hear?
    I see some commenters are writing that the words purportedly spoken were that the PM was a “stupid little girl”
    
    Whereas the NZ Herald has “silly little girl”
    https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/the-new-zealand-herald/20180525/281672550609358
    
    So silly or stupid,?
    
    They don’t sound the same. I assume only one could be right…. or did Trevor hear that the PM is a “silly stupid little girl”?
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:03am
    - Lance
      
      We need an investigation in Mallards hearing ability and mental state.
      Hearing aids and lithium medication to follow.
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:14am
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      Is it possible she could be both? Asking for a friend etc 🙂
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:20am
    - calendar girl
      
      Perhaps Mallard, instead of being Speaker of the House, could be appointed Minister of Police (or Prisons, or Fishing Quotas ….) – anything that would allow him more room to use his advanced authoritarian streak.
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:53am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Yes, get Mallard to stand on busy streets for low wages fining texting/phoning drivers!!
        
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        May 25, 2018 12:24pm
    - Duxton
      
      I’ve being following the wording as well. As best as I can ascertain, Mallard claims to have heard “silly little girl”, but Brownlee has (very cleverly, IMHO) changed it to “stupid little girl”.
      
      It’s probably now a safe bet that Joe Public has already made a mental connection between “Jacinda Ardern” and “stupid little girl”.
      
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      May 25, 2018 4:02pm
      - calendar girl
        
        There are now only two MPs who are associated directly with the “Stupid little girl!” phrase:
        
        (i) PM Jacinda Arderne, the alleged target of that alleged Parliamentary insult; and
        
        (ii) Speaker Trevor Mallard, who appears to be:
        – the only person who claims to have heard it called across the House; and also
        – the person who took it upon himself to communicate to the media the detailed wording of the alleged insult, and the alleged target of such insult.
        
        Mallard single-handedly linked Jacinda Ardern’s name with the “stupid little girl” insult that he, and only he, claims to have heard. His claim has not been verified by Hansard, or through Parliament’s sophisticated recording equipment. It will take a long time for the incident itself and for Mallard’s colourful phrase to disappear from what is remembered ultimately of PM Ardern; for that Mallard must assume total responsibility.
        
        Will Mallard now act like a true man, stand in Parliament at the commencement of its next sitting day, apologise publicly to the PM, and withdraw all comments that he has made in the House on that subject?
        
        Any failure to do so will mark him down as having personal shortcomings that are much more serious than a slight loss of hearing in his left ear.
        
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        May 25, 2018 5:13pm
- freethinker
  
  In due course when Glitter Tits is off duty questions could be prefaced by as their are no silly little girls boys in the house (Bill English was also referred to this way).
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:39am
DigNap15

“Stupid Little Girl”
To me she’s an evil little girl with an argenda that will ruin NZ and take us back many years.
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May 25, 2018 8:51am
- Muttonbird
  
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  Contribution of the day, BigNappy.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:07am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    I see what you did there MB. Did the team come up with that, or was it a solo effort?
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:21am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Already done. She has cost the country 10’s of billions already with the idiotic oil and gas announcement. More debt for the kids for no environmental benefit.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:28am
holysheet

Three Politicians were driving along when they spied a body in the undergrowth. Stopping their car, the three guys ran over to see what they could do. Unfortunately, they found the nude body of a deceased young woman. Being gentlemen, the first guy dropped his National hat over one breast. The second guy, from Act, placed his hat over the other breast. The Labour man then placed his hat over the woman’s private parts. Soon the police arrived. The policeman started checking over the body. He picked up the Nats hat and quickly placed it back. He then picked up the Act’s hat and returned it. Then he picked up the Labour hat, put it down, then picked it up again inspecting the hat more closely, and then put it down. Then he picked it up a third time. By this time, the Labour man was a bit irritated and he asked, “Why do you keep picking up that hat? Are you some kind of pervert or something?” The policeman responded with a wry smile, “ I can’t figure this one out. Usually when I come across one of these labour hats, there’s an arsehole under it.”
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May 25, 2018 8:53am
- Harkman
  
  I told someone your six foot arsehole gag the other day, they were literally crying with laughter.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:59am
kowtow

God’s in trouble.

Hollywood promoted this guy relentlessly , oh dear.

‘US film star Morgan Freeman has apologised following allegations of sexual misconduct made by eight women and several other people.’

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44247166
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May 25, 2018 8:55am
- Longknives
  
  Couldn’t have happened to a nicer Guy. This sanctimonious prick thinks the sun shines out of his own asshole. He has been mouthing off about Trump, Evil White People etc for ages now- But conveniently forgets he has some major skeletons in his own closet…
  
  *Anyone think the Left Wing Media will go for Freeman like they went for Dustin Hoffman?
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:41am
- softail 1450
  
  kowtow, freeman ” didndunuffin”.
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:01am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  “Eight women and several other people” ???
  
  What are “other people”?
  
  Victims are marginalised by that description.
  It is re-victimising “other people”
  Why can’t their gender be recognised?
  
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  May 25, 2018 2:33pm
Harkman

So if Cindy loses in 2020 (gosh I hope so) it will all come back to not accepting Phil (of shit) Twyford’s resignation while she had the chance. She really is “a stupid little girl.” Twyford must really have some dirt on her.
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May 25, 2018 8:56am
- VicParking
  
  No… she just a stupid little girl who has found herself fully out of her depth.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:05am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  No way it is a resignation offence. The plane was sitting on the ground at the time. Much more reasonable to do what DPF did and just embarrass Twyford with the nonsense he spouted when the other side did something similar.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:09am
- holysheet
  
  Nah she knows he’s the best she will get. Who else can she get to do his jobs so well? I mean look at his success in the housing and transport field. Just about as good as her in ridding us of poverdy.
  Silly little girl meets silly little boy.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:10am
  - Harkman
    
    HS get this she took his Civil aviation portfolio (you know, the person in charge of the planes in the country) and gave it to JAG, who is also about to disappear on maternity leave. Gosh, Cindy is hitting them out of the park at the moment. Next she’ll be winning the Nobel prize for Physics.
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:19am
    - holysheet
      
      Would physics help me here?
      
      Cindy, I’m trying my absolute hardest to see things from your perspective, but I just can’t get my head that far up my arse.
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:30am
      - KevOB
        
        Its physick the taxcinda might be needing. Having a baby dulls the brain for a while and there can be after effects.
        
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        May 25, 2018 9:47am
    - VicParking
      
      THe logic is simple JAG goes on baby leave and Phil of shit gets his portfolio back
      
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      May 25, 2018 10:26am
EAD_TWO

Irish Savant shares his thoughts on Ireland’s latest battleground in the culture wars – the upcoming abortion referendum:

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2018/05/irelands-culture-wars.html?m=0

Naturally enough the Referendum’s proponents are not running on this platform. It’s twelve weeks and that’s it. And we’ll never look to increase that time limit. We swear! The exact same progression took place in Britain and Ireland’s craven politicians, with no Constitutional prohibition to hide behind, will gradually extend the time limit in response to the shrieking feminist mob and their air-headed dupes in the general population. According to the opinion polls the Yes side will easily carry the day. Not surprising given the state of the zeitgeist with the Catholic Church relegated to the status of helpless onlooker. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised were the current Pope to proclaim abortion as a virtuous act. But I have a feeling that the result might a lot closer than the consensus indicates. Ireland might yet see an awakening of the forces that gave us Trump and give the nation-wreckers a closer run than they expect.
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May 25, 2018 8:59am
- kowtow
  
  Not so sure about Ireland.
  
  Sinn Fein , a front for terrorism, hatred and far left Marxism is very popular.
  
  Incredible.
  
  https://www.joe.ie/news/sinn-fein-now-popular-ireland-fine-gael-581174
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:08am
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    Much like the Black n Tans and Ulster Loyalists, eh?
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:21am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      How would you know that?
      Have you been there?
      And even if you have been there you can’t be objective.
      
      References and citations please.
      
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      May 25, 2018 2:36pm
Poppa

Genter now Civil Aviation Minister……Geezuz wept!

If there ever was anyone less qualified for a ministerial role in aviation, with the possible exception of Mahuta for any role.

God the talent pool is shallow
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May 25, 2018 9:02am
- cmm
  
  I don’t see the problem.
  
  She’s into bamboo bicycles. Early planes were also made from bamboo. Maybe she can bring some fresh ideas into the aviation industry.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:22am
  - KevOB
    
    Whales. Have them fitted out to assist our transport industry. Small lightweight fitted plastic carrier/viewing pod on top.
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:53am
    - VicParking
      
      Wont work. The Whales are already full of plastic.
      
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      May 25, 2018 10:28am
      - KevOB
        
        Pump it out then.
        
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        May 25, 2018 11:14am
    - cmm
      
      Good idea. Whales are supposed to be intelligent. Maybe we can teach them to swim around NZ visiting all the NZ ports.
      
      I hope the buggers haven’t got a union or they’ll just strike along with all the other transport workers.
      
      BTW: My 50c says we’re due for another strike from the ferry workers soon. Maybe they’re waiting for the school holidays.
      
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      May 25, 2018 11:39am
    - Right of way is Way of Right
      
      A guy walks in to a pub, and sees two overweight women at the bar. As he approaches he hears them talking in an accent that he cannot place. Being the curious type, he asks them.
      “Excuse me, are you two ladies from Scotland by any chance?”
      One lady turns on the spot and shouts loudly and angrily, “NO, WALES!”
      “Oh, I’m so sorry!” replies the man, “are you two whales from Scotland.”
      
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      May 25, 2018 2:38pm
Manolo

Another liberal icon and Hollywood star is caught:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/entertainment/celebrity/morgan-freeman-addresses-harassment-claims-from-8-women/ar-AAxLnt1

Morgan Freeman has addressed accusations of inappropriate behaviour and harassment.

Eight former colleagues of the 80-year-old allege that the actor behaved inappropriately toward them, and said they didn’t come forward before over fear of losing their jobs.
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May 25, 2018 9:04am
Odakyu-sen

Trump understands East Asian negotiation styles better than his predecessors. It would have been a loss of face for him to go ahead with the summit after Kim criticized the US VP like that.

Obama would probably have entered the summit despite the insult, in a position of weakness (in the eyes of the Koreans and the Chinese).
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May 25, 2018 9:06am
- kowtow
  
  Interesting how Trump so publicly blamed the Chinese for the breakdown. Biggly things happening on the world stage.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:13am
  - Ross12
    
    I think, from what I’m reading, it maybe more to do with Chinese / USA trade issues than just NK and what was said , although I agree with Odakyu-sen’s point.
    There is a lot of sabre rattling going on.
    
    Here is a copy of his letter and video of the press announcement. The second comment on the thread talks about trade issues.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/24/president-trump-cancels-june-12th-summit-with-north-korea-awaits-chinas-next-move/
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:23am
  - VicParking
    
    The last thing China wants is a unified Korea.
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:29am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Very likely.
      
      China loves Korea so much that it would much prefer two of them than one.
      
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      May 25, 2018 1:31pm
- stephieboy
  
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  Odakyu – sen , lame excuses after lame excuses!
  
  Shhesh!
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:23am
  - freethinker
    
    You would know with your PhD in crapology.
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:45am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Not quite.
      
      The “-ology” suffix usually applies to real STEM subjects.
      
      I would suggest the term “Crap Science” or “Crap Studies” since any discipline (such as Women’s Studies or Climate Science) is usually neither.
      
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      May 25, 2018 10:13am
  - VicParking
    
    Your are 쓰레기로 가득하다. Stephie (full of shit)
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:31am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      That’s garbage
      
      (쓰레기 = garbage)
      
      Full of shit = 똥이 가득하다.
      
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      May 25, 2018 3:09pm
EAD_TWO

Manchester told “Don’t look back in anger” after a Muslim terrorist massacared dozens of schoolgirls this time last year:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/104128874/ariana-grande-sends-love-to-fans-on-manchester-anniversary

Can you imagine saying “Don’t look back in anger” to one of the mothers who lost a daughter?

Yet that’s the message of the entire damn city❗

I’m amazed there’s no parent to go all Breivik on these people.
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May 25, 2018 9:06am
- stephieboy
  
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  EAD TWO, not dozens but 23 deaths.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Arena_bombing
  
  People are not as cruel or vindictive as you might wish them to be.
  
  I thought Anders Brevik was a deep state Jewish inspired conspiracy?
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:27am
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy, 23 is close enough to 2 dozen as you are 2 sandwiches short of a picnic you fricking headcase,seek help before we all read about your madness in the papers you contrary fucker.
    you’d spend all day and all your energy arguing black was white just to be an annoying flea,fuck off .
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:15am
- Longknives
  
  If my Daughter had been blown apart my a nail bomb in Manchester I think I would have a right to be rather ‘Angry’ with the Muslim Community.
  
  Thank Heavens we have Lefty pop stars to tell us everything is okay..
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:45am
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    Longknives , you have a right to be angry at the perpetrator much like Parklands and Las Vegas. But not those who live in them whether Muslim or not.
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:51am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      23 thousand fucking posts and I am yet to read something you say and say “You know, stephiebitch has a point there”
      Shut the fuck up you stupid little girl.
      
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      May 25, 2018 12:00pm
      - stephieboy
        
        ABS , 23,000 ? Yet far behind Manolo’s recording breaking 30,000 c
        
        LOL
        
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        May 25, 2018 12:54pm
- freethinker
  
  Give it time British patience is long but the blue fuse is short and the explosion fierce, Brexit may be the first explosion and it could be Nuclear as far as the EU is concerned.
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:00am
  - kowtow
    
    I have my doubts.
    
    They have a genuine alternative in UKIP , even as a protest vote and yet the sheep have gone back to the 2 parties who are both responsible for the mess they’re in.
    
    It will get uglier at some stage. The Balkans is the model .
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:11am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Don’t look back in anger, look forward with revenge!
  
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  May 25, 2018 2:39pm
Harkman

So last night I heard that Trump has made the US the world’s most competitive economy, jumping ahead of Hong Kong and Singapore. I checked the list and good old NZ has plunged from 16th in 2017 to 23rd now. Wow I wonder what could have caused this? Hmmm, ?

At this rate we’ll be at the bottom with Venezuela, Mongolia, Brazil and the Ukraine in next to no time.
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May 25, 2018 9:07am
- holysheet
  
  Did you miss the drunken dwarf on the night he selected Cindy as his mistress?
  This is exactly what they want. Capitalism has failed, he said. Time to try communism.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:13am
- stephieboy
  
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  Harkman , sources?
  
  The US has held a second or third ranking going before Trump entered the scene,
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Competitiveness_Report#2017–2018_rankings
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:28am
  - holysheet
    
    Stoooopidboy have you not learnt anything yet?
    Its no good us providing any links to the truth. You cannot handle the truth
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3igOkOk
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:34am
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      holy crap, an attack of the runs this am?
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:53am
      - VicParking
        
        Morning Stephie Goats got the Bovis ??????
        
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        May 25, 2018 10:34am
  - Harkman
    
    Just look up imd world competitiveness yearbook in Google. And it isn’t even a right wing outfit.
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:22am
- freethinker
  
  The world looks at NZ and sees it lead by a Silly Little Girl, a Drunken Dwarf and Sweet cheeks and thinks perhaps the plonkers running our bit are not so bad.
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:03am
- igm
  
  Wait till Standard and Poors drops NZ’s credit rating . . . see what the fiscally illiterate CoL have to say about that!
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:04am
Rich Prick

For God’s sake.

Women are significantly more likely to worry about their power bills than men.

Yeah, whatever.
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May 25, 2018 9:08am
- alloytoo
  
  I call bullshit, men have more toys to power.
  
  I don’t want my Server or TV to go down.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:20am
  - holysheet
    
    Or Shane doeasn’t want to lose his porn channel links.
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:36am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    If you use the verb “to serve” as it is used in the horse breeding industry, then, I believe, that a number of women would want their server to go down.
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:49am
- dime
  
  lmao what a loser. imagine your job was to churn shit like that out.
  
  if it had gone the other way would he have written the article?
  
  he and i use that word loosely, probably would have gone with – men need to toughen up.
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:03pm
stinkypete

still a deafening silence from alison mau’ s metoo campaign
must be slim pickings
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May 25, 2018 9:09am
- Longknives
  
  I’m still waiting fora reply to my query re the Labour Party Sex Camp…(and whether her team of Femnazis were going to investigate)
  They must be awfully busy.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:46am
- dime
  
  yeah hilarious.
  
  she thought she had her big moment too
  
  must be time to remind everyone that shes a lesbian. and a brave one at that! she broke up her family after all
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:04pm
  - Poppa
    
    She did Simon a favour though didn’t she. He is not a bad sort, imagine listening to her tripe day after day
    
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    May 25, 2018 2:24pm
Harkman

Hillary (Hilldogs) spouts the #metoo nonsense but then turns around and endorses a man (Cuomo) ahead of actress Cynthia Nixon. Oh the irony or should I state the hypocrisy.

https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2018/05/hillary-clinton-praises-women-in-politics-as-she-endorses-man-for-ny-governor/
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May 25, 2018 9:12am
RF

Memo to Twyford. Those that tell lies must have a good memory.

The phone call on the aircraft has changed from him taking the call as he thought it was urgent to him actually making the call to a staff member.

Get it right mate………

How many lives has this cat got left….
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May 25, 2018 9:12am
- VicParking
  
  How many Lies has this cat got left….
  
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  May 25, 2018 3:50pm
Duxton

Question for the day:

If Judith Collins is ‘Crusher’, can we now call Phil Twyford ‘Crasher’?
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May 25, 2018 9:13am
- holysheet
  
  Stoner crasher you mean?
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:23am
- freethinker
  
  Remove the C and you get a premonition of Phils future.
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:14am
  - softail 1450
    
    freethinker, remove the c from ms collins nick name and you will get a premonition of what the COL have in mind for our future,FFS.
    
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    May 25, 2018 12:47pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Phil the Crushed Crasher!
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:42pm
Southern Raider

Last week was Wellington Peace Network planting a fake bomb and causing disruption at a film festival. Last night the Auckland Peace Network once again disrupted the screening, let off stink bombs in the cinema and had to be removed by Police

These guys are fucked in the head and the media doesn’t pick it up to show their disgraceful actions
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May 25, 2018 9:21am
Southern Raider

Human Rights Commission has proposed to UN that new hate speech laws are needed.

Guess what. They are specifically aimed at making it illegal to criticise or speak out against Islam/Muslims but only that one group of society

World has gone mad
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May 25, 2018 9:23am
- mandk
  
  Interesting.
  
  Do you mean the NZ HRC? I couldn’t find anything about this on their website.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:42am
- Komata
  
  SR
  
  The individual promoting such an idea as ‘Hate Speech’ wouldn’tbe a certain (formerly) Iranian muslim ‘Refugee’ turned Gween MP would it? it would seem to have her fingerprints all over it.
  
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  May 25, 2018 1:32pm
Harkman

So last night One News had a story about how this might well be the coldest winter for many years. And the very next story they covered was on “climate change.” Isn’t it convenient how the they alternate it with “global warming” when it suits.
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May 25, 2018 9:26am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I remember when TV one ran a big story some 20 years ago about how there would be no future in ski fields in NZ.
  Wonder how many folks decided to biff their skis?
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:42am
  - KevOB
    
    In the 1970’s they were trying to scare the world that it would all be iced over by now.
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:56am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      I recall, something to do with the aftermath of a nuclear war.
      
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      May 25, 2018 12:46pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Check out the webcam images from Turoa Skifield this morning Maggie:
    
    http://www.metservice.com/skifields/turoa
    
    The forecast today is for snow to 1300m, lowering to 1200m tomorrow, and a freezing level of 900m by Sunday night. The altitude for the skifield’s base is 1623m, and they’re forecast to receive around 75cm of snow between now and Sunday. Given that Ruapehu traditionally gets its biggest dumps of snow in August and September, I’d say the folks from Ruapehu Alpine Lifts are rubbing their hands in anticipation of a bumper ski season.
    
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    May 25, 2018 11:06am
    - trout
      
      A big snow dump in May is a fairly regular event. And then come the warm Norwesters and rain that washes the snow away. The ski season used to start around Queen’s Birthday weekend but for the last 30 years snow conditions comes good around 12 July. If temperatures go low the new snow making machines can make a difference.
      
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      May 25, 2018 11:33am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Actually as I recall the ski season starts at different times and always has. Back in 1973 there wasn’t a season at all at Ruapehu and only Coronet I think had enough snow to ski on. No snowmaking back then.
        
        But 4 years later 1977 was the big one, so much snow you could ski some lifts because they were buried. RAL hired a chopper to lift in their people to start digging out and we managed to persuade the pilot to take a couple of loads of people to the Dome (for a fee of course) to ski down (it was still legal then). Skied back via the Downhill and the then Downhill T has buried up to the top of the lift towers at some points, that’s something like 10 metres of snow !
        
        It’s always good to get a fairly early dump like this. yes the weather can and probably will turn, but this cools the mountain down and provides a base to build on. With luck it will be a good season. Whakapapa in particular needs quite a lot of snow in some areas to make it skiable.
        
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        May 25, 2018 11:54am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’m not a skier, but was a regular up to the Turoa side of Mt Ruapehu during the late 1960s-1970s when a student at Wanganui High and Massey Uni.
      Both Educational Institutes had their tramping/Alpine huts on that side of the mountain.
      http://www.whanganuihigh.school.nz/news/50th-celebration-of-high-school-tramping-hut-october-2015
      
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      May 25, 2018 1:41pm
      - Johnboy
        
        I think you’re the one in the center, in black and red, with the sexy thighs Maggy! 🙂
        
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        May 25, 2018 7:13pm
Justitia

Will our Foreign Minister, soon to be Acting Prime Minister, continue to deny Russian responsibility in the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine four years ago? An international investigation team yesterday in The Hague provided incontrovertible evidence including serial numbers, photographs of the launcher and support vehicles and confirmation of the Russian military unit involved. The governments of Malaysia and the Netherlands and other countries whose nationals were killed should be ostracizing New Zealand until clarification is received.
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May 25, 2018 9:27am
- stephieboy
  
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  justitia , fair enough and let’s hope that the US follows or otherwise follow the same ostracizing?
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:33am
- Andrei
  
  Phooey – the evidence they used to come to this conclusion was supplied by the Ukrainian Government and an English blogger called Bellingcat.
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:23am
- KevOB
  
  Made in USA?
  The bullet holes peppering the cockpit of MH17 require explanation.
  Putin’s personal flight was in the near vicinity and one scenario has it that the Ukranians took out MH17 in error.
  
  Truth in war?
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:33am
  - Ed Snack
    
    KevOB, I think it is pretty well established that a missile took out the flight not cannon or weapons from a fighter/interceptor. The argument has been over who was responsible, Ukrainians or Russian back separatists (or the Russians themselves at the separatists were typically not allowed to control the heavier weapons).
    
    This report purports to identify the source as a Russian controlled unit.
    
    The holes “peppering” the cockpit are most likely shrapnel, the missile has a proximity fused warhead designed to “kill” by fragmentation damage.
    
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    May 25, 2018 11:58am
    - KevOB
      
      Within days there was photo evidence of the cockpit of MH17 showing the shell holes. There was an intense concentration on the base of one side of the cockpit. Delivery had to be targeted not explosive.
      
      Missiles have either complete demolition or random shrapnel punctures not nice round 30mm canon holes in one place showing their appropriate exit deformation. Punch a nail through a tin lid and see that affect. That was what the cockpit holes were like.
      
      I may be able to find the photos in my archives.
      
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      May 25, 2018 12:45pm
      - stephieboy
        
        “I may be able to find the photos in my archives.”
        
        Do please and source them. The peppered cabin cockpit was consistent with Missile fragments.
        
        https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2014/10/11/russian-tv-inadvertently-demonstrates-mh17-wasnt-shot-down-by-aircraft-cannon-fire/
        
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        May 25, 2018 12:59pm
      - KevOB
        
        See this which incorporates the early images:
        
        http://www.mondialisation.ca/how-the-malaysian-airlines-mh17-boeing-was-shot-down-examination-of-the-wreckage/5445180
        
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        May 25, 2018 7:07pm
- Paulus
  
  Our Acting Prime Minister will be too busy to take any notice of anything except himself and his Uncle role to the new little girl.
  Watch his pantomime play.
  
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  May 25, 2018 2:25pm
Poppa

Judith Collins is proving time & time again to be the most effective person in opposition. She is mincing Twyford daily, but to be fair he is an easy target

I wonder how long the party can tolerate Simon at the helm when he is so weak.
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May 25, 2018 9:41am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I disagree Poppa. There’s no way Collins, as effective as she is in Opposition, could unite the National Party enough to win an election. She is simply too polarising.
  
  Bridges is doing well enough, given he’s only been in the job for a couple of months. His best move so far was to give Collins a high profile front-bench placing, and match her up against the ineffective Twyford. He’s obviously happy to utilise her attack-dog skills, but he can remain at arm’s length.
  
  Bridges has been getting out and about in provincial New Zealand, and pulling good crowds. The key in that is winning back some of those who voted for Peters last year to “keep National honest”.
  
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  May 25, 2018 11:13am
  - Kabull
    
    There was some comment on ZB yesterday that the Nat’s internal polling has them over 50% – so Bridges can’t be doing too badly.
    
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    May 25, 2018 11:37am
    - gorse
      
      Time for a vote of no confidence then.
      
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      May 25, 2018 12:46pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        There’s no point gorse. Unless either NZF or the Greens welch on their coalition/confidence and supply agreements with Labour, the result is a foregone conclusion.
        
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        May 25, 2018 3:47pm
    - Inandout
      
      Internal polling does tend to be a ‘interview their typewriter’ scenario. Some say an attack style leader fails, and then in the same breath the US votes in Trump. Muldoon had a huge following in the 1970s with his bulldog attitude, but then his socialist side came to the fore when he started putting price freezes on all and sundry. When he lost the plot he was dumped by the electorate, but he still made his mark. So yes, some attackers succeed, others don’t.
      
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      May 25, 2018 1:24pm
  - Komata
    
    KS
    
    Simon who? The ‘Hello I’m XXX, You might remember me from…’ series of TV adverts DOES come to mind.
    
    He’s not exactly a ‘promminent / dominant’ personality is he?
    
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    May 25, 2018 1:38pm
    - Right of way is Way of Right
      
      “Hello, I’m Troy McClure. You may remember me from….”
      
      ….such educational films as “Lead Paint: Delicious But Deadly,” and “Here Comes the Metric System!”
      
      ….such fishing films as ‘Cast Out’ or ‘The Reel Deal.’
      
      ….such films as “The Erotic Adventures of Hercules” and “Dial ‘M’ for Murderousness”.
      
      ….such films as “‘P’ is for Psycho” and “The President’s Neck is Missing”.
      
      ….such films as “Today We Kill, Tomorrow We Die” and “Gladys, the Groovy Mule”.
      
      ….such films as “The Greatest Story Ever Hula-ed” and “They Came to Burgle Carnegie Hall”.
      
      ….such Fox Network Specials as “Alien Nose Job” and “The Five Fabulous Weeks of the Chevy Chase Show”.
      
      ….such self-help videos as “Smoke Yourself Thin” and “Get Some Confidence, Stupid!”
      
      ….such nature films as “Earwigs: Ewwww” and “Man vs. Nature: The Road to Victory”.
      
      ….such celebrity funerals as “Andre The Giant, We Hardly Knew Ye” and “Shemp Howard, Today We Mourn A Stooge”.
      
      ….such telethons as “Out With Gout ’88” and “Let’s Save Tony Orlando’s House”.
      
      ….such cartoons as “Christmas Ape” and “Christmas Ape goes to Summer Camp”.
      
      ….such driver’s ed films as “Alice’s Adventures through the Windshield Glass” and “The Decapitation of Larry Leadfoot”.
      
      ….such TV spinoffs as “Son of Sanford and Son” and “After Mannix”.
      
      ….such instructional videos as “Mothballing Your Battleship” and “Dig Your Own Grave and Save”.
      
      ….such public service videos as “Designated Drivers, the Lifesaving Nerds” and “Phony Tornado Alarms Reduce Readiness”.
      
      ….such medical films as “Alice Doesn’t Live Anymore” and “Mommy, What’s Wrong With That Man’s Face?”.
      
      ….such automated information kiosks as “Welcome to Springfield Airport” and “Where’s Nordstrom?”.
      
      ….such Do-It-Yourself home videos such as “The half-assed approach to foundation repair”
      
      ….such dates as last night’s dinner.
      
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      May 25, 2018 2:45pm
- KevOB
  
  A wise leader lets others do the dirty work.
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:49pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Quite so Kev. Bridges can keep his hands clean whilst his team goes on the attack. That’s smart politics.
    
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    May 25, 2018 1:26pm
  - Paulus
    
    A Leader co ordinates his lieutenants who do the specific jobs.
    Like any decent CEO.
    Then there is Catastrophe Cindy who is all thing to herself and Heather Simpson.
    I will not comment on her lack of intelligent lieutenants.
    
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    May 25, 2018 2:29pm
Inandout

I love the hypocrisy of WO when discussing Mallard. He says:

‘Parliament is becoming a farce with the speaker demanding members withdraw and apologise for things they have no knowledge or understanding of’.

Slater goes even further and commonly bans people from commenting on WO without knowledge of a reason.
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May 25, 2018 9:51am
- Poppa
  
  I seemed to get banned for no reason at all. I have no idea why & don’t care frankly. I only wish I could take back the money I gave him when he was having legal trouble, it was not a small amount
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:14am
  - Inandout
    
    I was in a similar position poppa by contributing to his legal bills, and I weakened to the point I was looking at a direct debit. I thank my lucky stars I was jettisoned from WO before I contributed another cent.
    
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    May 25, 2018 11:00am
    - lifesgood
      
      Bloody ungrateful so and so, isn’t he?
      
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      May 25, 2018 1:43pm
  - peterwn
    
    He has never banned me but he did call me a ‘f***wit’ several years ago (before Pete Belt was on the scene or he would probably have moderated this). So I have never subscribed or given him a thing.
    
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    May 25, 2018 11:47am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      No one moderates the blog owner.
      He writes whatever he likes however he likes to write it. The rules only apply to others.
      
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      May 25, 2018 5:47pm
      - gorse
        
        I got banned for criticising Corrin Dann (sp?) I think they are more left wing than they think.
        
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        May 25, 2018 9:59pm
- G152
  
  But it’s always different when the self important ‘elite’ do it.
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:15am
kevn

This latest dairy farming/cow disease crisis is a big worry. The impact on NZ and farmers will be huge. Cow movements will apparently be severely limited making sharemilkers very vulnerable.
Question is… how did the disease get here? Palm kernel feed imports from dodgy countries processing maybe?
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May 25, 2018 10:21am
- igm
  
  How did the disease get here. Why are the police involved? Seems a little more sinister than palm kernel infected imports!
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:29am
  - stinkypete
    
    i heard it was ilegal bull semen
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:36am
    - Inandout
      
      Me too, involving a kiwi with a Continental name.
      
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      May 25, 2018 11:02am
      - RF
        
        Sounds like a Dutch name.
        
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        May 25, 2018 1:12pm
  - kevn
    
    @igm…. Haven’t heard of the police involvement. Sounds sinister but don’t hold your breath for a result.
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:48am
  - milkmaid
    
    There are plenty of conspiracy theories out there!
    
    https://www.facebook.com/www.logic.org.nz/videos/823823374475142/UzpfSTE4NzQwMTc5NDc4Mzk3Mzo4MjQwMzg1MDc3ODY5NjI/
    
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    May 25, 2018 11:21am
  - stephieboy
    
    igm , keep the paranoia on autopilot!
    
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    May 25, 2018 12:36pm
    - igm
      
      There is no paranoia tosser, this was public knowledge on Tuesday. Shame MSM give it a wide berth.
      
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      May 25, 2018 12:55pm
- Harkman
  
  It’s in Canterbury now.
  
  Amazing how the Greens are getting their wish of a reduction in cattle numbers.
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:30am
  - KevOB
    
    One malevolent is all that would take.
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:38am
    - rangitoto
      
      I’d be investigating terrorist organisations such as Greenpeace, Forest and Bird, Green Party etc.
      
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      May 25, 2018 12:04pm
      - GoVege
        
        Don’t be daft, rangitoto.
        Those organizations would be finished if they did anything so evil.
        They are not terrorists and F&B has been around for eons.
        
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        May 25, 2018 12:23pm
      - stephieboy
        
        rangitoto, you deluded oaf!
        
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        May 25, 2018 12:35pm
      - oob
        
        Those organizations would be finished if they did anything so evil. (sic)
        
        Like carry out a terrorist attack to irreparably damage a World Heritage site?
        
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        May 25, 2018 3:41pm
      - GoVege
        
        I stand corrected Oob.
        What total dorks….
        
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        May 25, 2018 4:47pm
  - kevn
    
    @hark… Seems to be randomly all over NZ. Super infectious I gather.
    Might be winnies prediction coming to be.
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:51am
- Ed Snack
  
  Not feed, or unlikely, spreads through animal products usually. Semen is definitely a possibility.
  
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  May 25, 2018 11:59am
- Paulus
  
  My Dairy Farmer friends say importation of bad semen batch in their opinion.
  
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  May 25, 2018 2:31pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Mycoplasmas lack cell walls and won’t survive long in a dry environment.
  I think it’s most likely that M. bovis arrived via animal material (semen, blood, embryo, mucus, other body fluids, etc).
  
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  May 25, 2018 4:32pm
  - Viking2
    
    It is a natural pathogen in all cows. Been there for centuries so came when cows came to NZ. Was noted way back at least 2014.
    The pathogen has lived because of low immunity caused by a lack of something in the diet.
    Most likely because of Palm Kernel feed and insufficient minerals in the diet.
    Not rocket science.
    
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    May 25, 2018 7:54pm
Scott Hamilton

When I popped into Kiwiblog the other day to defend Ghost South Road I noticed that a few people, including my mate Jack5, were pretty critical of the study of indigenous oral history.

I’m not so critical, because I owe my life partly to indigenous oral tradition.

Back in 1999 I was involved in a very serious car crash on the harbour bridge, and wound up in hospital getting emergency surgery. The doctors could only operate after they relaxed my broken body with generous doses of neuromuscular blockers. These blockers, which are used on a daily basis at all our major hospitals, were developed from curare, a potent poison that Amazonian Indians took from frogs and put on the tips of their arrows.

I’ve been reading the great ethnobotanist Wade Davis’ book One River, which describes how generations of Western scholars have taken to the forests and mountains of the Americas, and learned from the peoples living there about useful substances like curare. Very often these Westerners became students of local shamans, who shared with them oral traditions about plants. A huge number of the drugs we use to save lives in the West come from indigenous peoples.

When a group of people live for thousands of years in an environment, they naturally come to know a lot about it. Through trial and error, they learn which plants cure and which kill. By surviving they accumulate knowledge, which is based down verbally where no written language exists.

I mention all this because a young and brilliant Tongan scholar, Taitusi Taufa, has just won an award for a Vic University for a PhD that reveals the medicinal properties of the kingdom’s sea cucumbers. After diving in the sea around various islands and resting the marine sponges he found, Taufa was able to isolate a number of sub-species that may be able to treat various illnesses, including cancer. https://www.victoria.ac.nz/news/2018/05/research-uncovers-unique-anti-cancer-properties-in-tongan-marine-sponges

Like the ethnobotanists that Wade Davis’ book celebrates, Taufa was guided by local oral tradition. As he said:

“As a child, my grandparents and mother often used plants and herbal remedies to treat us when we were sick. At that time, Western medicine was unpopular and many people did not trust it, so we relied heavily on their traditional knowledge and medicine made from the leaves and bark of plants.

“These traditional medicines always seemed to work, which prompted my curiosity about the chemical contents responsible for the healing process.

“When I did my undergraduate studies in Chemistry, I realised that many drugs used nowadays, such as aspirin and morphine, were either based on, or inspired by, traditional medicine.”

I think what Taufa has done is marvellous, and I look forward to more medical benefits from the study of indigenous oral history.
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May 25, 2018 10:51am
- cmm
  
  Sure, we should look for cures wherever we find them.
  
  Remember too that Western (European) medicine also had its herbal/traditional medicines. That’s all there was until 200-odd years ago.
  
  However in the Western case we also applied a more scientific approach that:
  1) identified compounds in natural medicines and figured out ways to synthesise them and industrialise them
  2) develop out understanding so that new meds could be invented.
  
  As for the “might cure cancer” claim. The researchers always throw that in there as a way to get funding. Pah!
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:17pm
  - Ross12
    
    cmm
    I think there is an issue with your point 1. I do not mean it is inaccurate, it is true, but I think some people are beginning to realise there is not just one compound in these traditional remedies. Often it is how some of the minor compounds interact with the apparent “silver bullet” compound that gives best response.
    
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    May 25, 2018 1:02pm
- dime
  
  well done to him.
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:26pm
- kowtow
  
  The Indians of the Americas are not indigenous, they migrated there from Asia.
  Just like the Europeans who migrated to the Americas a bit later.
  If the Indians are indigenous to the Americas , so too are the Europeans.
  
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  May 25, 2018 1:03pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The Ferrier Institute at Vic Uni has been researching bioactives in Sponges since the 1990s.
  There was quite a bit of publicity about a cancer-killing agent -Peloruside isolated from a Mycale sponge in Pelorus Sound a few years back.
  https://www.niwa.co.nz/publications/wa/vol14-no3-september-2006/anti-cancer-sponge-the-race-is-on-for-aquaculture-supply
  
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  May 25, 2018 1:50pm
Happychappy

Will Jacinda use the Death of Kingi Taurus and his funeral to
score political points and lie about less money given to Maori in the Budget. As Maori have been taken for granted again by Labour you would think that they would be quite angry if she arrived at his funeral after all her spin and bluster tbat she promised last Waitangi Day.
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May 25, 2018 11:00am
- GoVege
  
  Why do Maori need more money, Happy?
  Most of their problems would be solved by a change in attitude and taking parenting seriously.
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:08pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Well that means your Leader of the Party you voted for Lied to get the the Maori Seats with promises of more money and again broke another Election promise. And you know how I always go on about the only way Labour a can obtain the the Treasury Benches is throw more money at every problem a that will fix it. Myself I don’t care if Maori get no more money but I do care that your Leader is a lying bitch and doesn’t give a fuck about the deception she used to get votes.
    
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    May 25, 2018 5:10pm
    - GoVege
      
      Nobody dares tell the truth to Maori in this country, Happy, including National.
      (Actually especially National, who suck up to hypocritical Maori separatists and criminal gang apologists.)
      Shane Jones gave us cause for hope when he said he was going to make people on bennies work for a living.
      Let’s hope he means it.
      
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      May 25, 2018 6:20pm
- RF
  
  This wretched person who is our PM will try anything to gain popularity.
  
  However I think she had met her match with Kingi who was a very unpleasant individual.
  
  I was not sad to hear about his demise.
  
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  May 25, 2018 3:21pm
Inandout

Morgan Freeman gets offside with some wimmin who feel ‘uncomfortable’ around him. I just can’t imagine Morgan seeing himself as some sort of Romeo.
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May 25, 2018 11:05am
Poppa

The princess is visiting New Plymouth today to reassure them that all is well.

I heard Larry Williams interview her & she said she is talking with some workers to get their ideas about what to do after oil.

Unbelievable that she can make a decision to ban future exploration with no clue at all about what happens next, and is asking workers for ideas!

What the hell is happening to this country?
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May 25, 2018 11:27am
- Rich Prick
  
  Bramble picking perhaps?
  
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  May 25, 2018 11:30am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Steven Joyce on Twitter this morning:
  
  Steven Joyce @stevenljoyce
  2 hours ago
  
  From my soundings yesterday and this morning, I suspect another more illustrious visitor today will get a chilly reception – and not just because of the weather.
  
  I suspect Ms Ardern will not be able to get out of New Plymouth quickly enough today. I doubt she’ll even have time to visit a school or kindergarten, before retreating to the warmth of her Kingsland/Sandringham abode.
  
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  May 25, 2018 11:35am
  - alex Masterley
    
    More Balmoral KS.
    and she has bought in a cold part as well…
    
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    May 25, 2018 12:27pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    KS , and no doubt Steven is aware that Judith Collins kept the incident in here snitch file with her snitcher failing to report it to the flight attendants or aviation authorities?.
    
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    May 25, 2018 12:33pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      The incident only happened on 17th May Stephie; Budget Day. Twyford was ambushed with a series of written questions by Collins yesterday, which forced him to come clean. I’m willing to wager that was the first Ardern had heard about it.
      
      Collins received the information from a passenger on the flight, and did the responsible thing; she asked Twyford, via written questions, if what was alleged had happened. She could have gone to the media first, or asked an Oral Question in the House, but chose not to.
      
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      May 25, 2018 1:32pm
    - Paulus
      
      stephieboy
      
      Eh ?
      
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      May 25, 2018 2:34pm
      - stigie
        
        Stupid little girl !~
        
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        May 25, 2018 4:04pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      SB You need to look at things more objectively and rationally.
      
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      May 25, 2018 5:53pm
- Komata
  
  Poppa
  
  Re: ‘What the hell is happening to this country?’
  
  In one word ‘Socialism’!!
  
  We used to know THAT as ‘Communism’ but that word is soooo unfashionable now (except amongst snowflakes in US universities…)
  
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  May 25, 2018 1:44pm
Keeping Stock

I was disgusted with the story on One News last night about the culling of M-Bovis cattle on a Canterbury property.

MPI want to go on to the farm today and cull hundreds of cows which are in calf. That is despite Cabinet being scheduled to make a decision on Monday as to whether to continue culling, or try to manage the disease.

MPI’s attitude towards these farmers is callous and cruel. Surely, showing some humanity and waiting until after Cabinet on Monday is not going to make a difference to their efforts to contain M-Bovis.
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May 25, 2018 11:32am
- GoVege
  
  The farmers should take court action to keep these heartless cow-cullers off their farms until a decision is reached.
  I’m sure they will get plenty of public support and donations.
  Stop the cow killing!!
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:05pm
Fletch

So, two stories in the media this week – one about how a few cattle in NZ might have to have to be killed along with having their calves aborted, and the other story about the abortion vote in Ireland. Guess which one the progressives are upset the most by? Yep, the cattle. As far as aborting baby humans, it doesn’t bother them in the least – they are all in favour of it and think laws should be passed to legalize it yet again.

Makes you weep for humanity.
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May 25, 2018 11:38am
Rich Prick

The Great Dame has been served the arse card. Please, contain your grief.
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May 25, 2018 11:45am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Yes that’s true Rich Prick, but I wonder if it was because she was a National appointee instead of because she was useless. Jackie Blue got the DCM as well, and she was an ex-National MP.
  Which Labour lickspittles will take their places, that’s the important bit.
  
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  May 25, 2018 11:56am
  - Paulus
    
    I was told at the time that nobody would accept the Racial job and she had to be strongly persuaded – she too would have been right to say no at the time – a hiding to nothing.
    
    Jackie Blue I believe is a highly qualified Surgeon.
    
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    May 25, 2018 2:37pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Sadly CM this is another Commission that is going to get the COL remodelling so yes we can expect new heads that need Photoshop renditions to make them presentable.
    
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    May 25, 2018 10:59pm
- cmm
  
  Before we party up too hard, the replacement doesn’t look any better.
  
  The only thing that would look better is getting rid of the whole HRC monstrosity.
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:04pm
- Piniwi
  
  A Last RP some good news breaking that trumps a trade deal with EU. Who?
  
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  May 25, 2018 10:56pm
Poppa

Yahooooooooooo!!!!
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May 25, 2018 11:46am
GoVege

There’s a big difference and you know it Fletch.
They aren’t a “few” cows.
The baby calves are almost full-term and will be cut out of their mothers’ wombs conscious and probably struggling to breathe.
The human embryos/fetuses will be anaesthetized and feel nothing.
They are at a much earlier state of development.
The humans have a choice.
The cows don’t.
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May 25, 2018 11:56am
- cmm
  
  I doubt the fetus gets a choice in either case.
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:00pm
  - GoVege
    
    Maybe not, but the individual whose body the fetus is growing in, and who will be caring for it, should have a choice in the matter.
    
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    May 25, 2018 12:34pm
    - lifesgood
      
      They did…before they got pregnant.
      
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      May 25, 2018 12:57pm
      - GoVege
        
        Takes two to tango, life’sgood, and males are far more likely to coerce females into sex, and avoid responsibility for their own offspring.
        
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        May 25, 2018 1:01pm
      - cmm
        
        What sort of useless pathetic woman gets coerced into sex by a male? It’s just one of those pathetic excuses the victim culture trains them to make.
        
        I bet you none of the quality ladies who hang out on KB finds herself having sex when she doesn’t want to.
        
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        May 25, 2018 3:17pm
      - GoVege
        
        Cmm: I doubt if anybody on KB is a vulnerable or naive teenage girl.
        
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        May 25, 2018 5:33pm
    - Komata
      
      GV
      
      You’re pro-abotion then?
      
      Out of interest, what is your stand on Murder? to some it’s the same thing…
      
      (Serious question BTW)
      
      Thanks.
      
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      May 25, 2018 1:47pm
      - GoVege
        
        I’ve heard police say that most murders are really accidents.
        Not many people deliberately kill others.
        But people with a propensity for violence need to be kept in custody until they learn not to endanger others.
        I’m not “pro” abortion.
        The pregnant woman/girl is the only one who can make a decision like that.
        It’s in human nature that unwanted pregnancies are going to occur.
        Hopefully with enough support, couples will work together to support each other and their child.
        Often this is not possible and abortion is a more humane option.
        
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        May 25, 2018 2:20pm
      - cmm
        
        GoVege: “I’ve heard police say that most murders are really accidents.”
        
        Perhaps you hear the same sorts of voices that Mallard does.
        
        If they are accidents then they are generally manslaughter – not murder.
        
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        May 25, 2018 3:14pm
      - GoVege
        
        Not so, cmm, lots of people have been convicted of murder for what was obviously not intentional.
        What about the poor Maori grandmother in her 60s recently with 4 kids foisted on her.
        She loses her cool and flings one down the hallway with fatal consequences.
        Do you really believe she meant to kill her own grandchild?
        A young sailor got into a dispute with a girl and hit her on the head with her shoe.
        How was he to know inside the heel was metal?
        He got convicted for murder.
        
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        May 25, 2018 4:24pm
      - kowtow
        
        ‘I’ve heard police say that most murders are really accidents.’
        
        Then they’re thick.
        
        Definition of murder is killing with malicious aforethought ie deliberate and intended. Otherwise it’s manslaughter.
        
        167 Murder defined
        Culpable homicide is murder in each of the following cases:
        (a)
        if the offender means to cause the death of the person killed:
        (b)
        if the offender means to cause to the person killed any bodily injury that is known to the offender to be likely to cause death, and is reckless whether death ensues or not:
        (c)
        if the offender means to cause death, or, being so reckless as aforesaid, means to cause such bodily injury as aforesaid to one person, and by accident or mistake kills another person, though he or she does not mean to hurt the person killed:
        (d)
        if the offender for any unlawful object does an act that he or she knows to be likely to cause death, and thereby kills any person, though he or she may have desired that his or her object should be effected without hurting any one.
        
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        May 25, 2018 4:49pm
    - softail 1450
      
      govege ,should have kept their stupid legs shut.
      
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      May 25, 2018 5:21pm
      - GoVege
        
        There’s a lotta “shoulds” floating around out there, softail.
        Parents “should” stay together to give their kids security in their tumultuous teens.
        Parents “should” keep tabs on their kids.
        Parents “should” encourage their kids to focus on a good education.
        Fathers “should” stick around and protect their young daughters, not run off with floozies.
        Women “should” encourage their hubbies to look after their health, not demand they work themselves to death.
        The shoulds are endless….
        
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        May 25, 2018 6:09pm
- lifesgood
  
  So are the babies aliens? Funny that, I thought they were humans?
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:56pm
  - GoVege
    
    Who said anything about aliens, lifesgood?
    
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    May 25, 2018 1:03pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Well you did say the humans had a choice but you seem to be denying the human baby that choice ergo, you don’t believe it is human.
      
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      May 25, 2018 1:47pm
      - GoVege
        
        Of course it’s human, lifesgood, but life just isn’t that simple.
        What gives anyone else the right to dictate to a girl/woman that she MUST go ahead with a pregnancy, no matter what her age or circumstances?
        Kids need a lot of input to ensure they have a reasonable chance of happiness, and forcing people to give birth is a recipe for disaster.
        
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        May 25, 2018 2:07pm
      - Fletch
        
        GV, I have to say, we all know where babies come from, so a woman having sex – performing the action that creates a baby – and then complaining because she has lost her autonomy seems a specious argument, like jumping in the water and complaining about getting wet.
        
        Getting pregnant is what a woman’s body is supposed to do as a result of having sex (of course, not all of the time). It is not something that is involuntarily forced on a woman (discounting rape) but something she chooses to do. This is where the woman makes her choice. It is entirely her decision: she has the choice to say yes or no to having sex. Ultimately the baby is a direct result of that choice, even though she may not want a baby. She can refrain from the actions that naturally lead to it. After that, it is too late. People make it sound like it isn’t fair to her that she got pregnant, and is something other than the direct result of her actions.
        
        I have the choice to drive very fast in my car or not. I may find the speed pleasurable, and getting a ticket is obviously not the outcome I want. If I speed (my own choice) and then get a speeding ticket (something that may not happen every time I speed, but depends on the chance of a police officer spotting me) do I then have a right to complain and to ask the officer to tear up the ticket because it isn’t the outcome I wanted? I exercised my choice, took all the precautions I could in order not to get caught, decided to drive at the speed I wanted, and must live with the consequences of the result that naturally flowed from that.
        
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        May 25, 2018 4:00pm
      - GoVege
        
        Great example Fletch.
        Must be really hard living with a few speeding tickets.
        I know my ones have really ruined my life.
        And when you end up in hospital from the consequences of your choice to speed, do you think the doctors will tell you “get lost! You made your choice! You can be a cripple for the rest of your life because you made a mistake! “
        
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        May 25, 2018 4:16pm
      - Fletch
        
        GV, of course I was just using speeding as an analogy. In real life I do not speed because I know the consequences and danger. I know that if I wanted to take pleasure in speeding that there is a time and place for doing that (on a racetrack, legally, etc). It used to also be considered that the place for taking the pleasure of sex safely was in marriage. It was safe because the woman knew that any offspring would be both wanted and cared for and also that becoming pregnant was seen as a blessing and not a curse.
        
        It is the taking the sex out of marriage these days that is one of the problems. It may not be breaking the laws in most societies, but it used to be called fornication and is against the moral law.
        
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        May 25, 2018 4:33pm
      - GoVege
        
        YOUR moral law, Fletch.
        MY moral law says that people demanding animals of other species be killed merely to satisfy their taste buds is morally wrong.
        The difference is I don’t expect to impose my beliefs on you.
        
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        May 25, 2018 5:55pm
      - Fletch
        
        As C.S Lewis points out in Mere Christianity, there is only one moral law. Otherwise each person could have their own moral law – Hitler’s moral law and Mother Teresa’s moral law and why is it fair to say that one person’s subjective view is better than anothers? Only one can actually be moral. As Lewis explained –
        
        “Isn’t what you call the Moral Law just a social convention, something that is put into us by education?” I think there is a misunderstanding here. The people who ask that question are usually taking it for granted that if we have learned a thing from parents and teachers, then that thing must be merely a human invention. But, of course, that is not so. We all learned the multiplication table at school. A child who grew up alone on a desert island would not know it. But surely it does not follow that the multiplication table is simply a human convention, something human beings have made up for themselves and might have made different if they had liked?
        
        I fully agree that we learn the Rule of Decent Behaviour from parents and teachers, and friends and books, as we learn everything else. But some of the things we learn are mere conventions which might have been different—we learn to keep to the left of the road, but it might just as well have been the rule to keep to the right—and others of them, like mathematics, are real truths. The question is to which class the Law of Human Nature belongs.
        
        There are two reasons for saying it belongs to the same class as mathematics. The first is, as I said in the first chapter, that though there are differences between the moral ideas of one time or country and those of another, the differences are not really very great—not nearly so great as most people imagine—and you can recognise the same law running through them all: whereas mere conventions, like the rule of the road or the kind of clothes people wear, may differ to any extent. The other reason is this.
        
        When you think about these differences between the morality of one people and another, do you think that the morality of one people is ever better or worse than that of another? Have any of the changes been improvements? If not, then of course there could never be any moral progress. Progress means not just changing, but changing for the better. If no set of moral ideas were truer or better than any other, there would be no sense in preferring civilised morality to savage morality, or Christian morality to Nazi morality. In fact, of course, we all do believe that some moralities are better than others. We do believe that some of the people who tried to change the moral ideas of their own age were what we would call Reformers or Pioneers—people who understood morality better than their neighbours did. Very well then.
        
        The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard, saying that one of them conforms to that standard more nearly than the other. But the standard that measures two things is something different from either. You are, in fact, comparing them both with some Real Morality, admitting that there is such a thing as a real Right, independent of what people think, and that some people’s ideas get nearer to that real Right than others. Or put it this way. If your moral ideas can be truer, and those of the Nazis less true, there must be something—some Real Morality—for them to be true about.
        
        The reason why your idea of New York can be truer or less true than mine is that New York is a real place, existing quite apart from what either of us thinks. If when each of us said “New York” each meant merely “The town I am imagining in my own head,” how could one of us have truer ideas than the other? There would be no question of truth or falsehood at all. In the same way, if the Rule of Decent Behaviour meant simply “whatever each nation happens to approve,” there would be no sense in saying that any one nation had ever been more correct in its approval than any other; no sense in saying that the world could ever grow morally better or morally worse.
        
        I conclude then, that though the differences between people’s ideas of Decent Behaviour often make you suspect that there is no real natural Law of Behaviour at all, yet the things we are bound to think about these differences really prove just the opposite.
        
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        May 26, 2018 9:32am
DigNap15

This is why people make racial slurs

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12057590

People of some races are so violent and have very short tempers.
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May 25, 2018 12:18pm
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap15 , but not his apparent member of our white race,
  
  “Dunedin man jailed for brutal assault on partner who made him a ‘rubbish’ breakfast”
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12057646
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:25pm
  - GoVege
    
    That Dunedin creep should been wearing his breakfast..
    
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    May 25, 2018 1:23pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  The judge thought this was a relevant point: “Judge Catherine Muir said the woman had not said anything to Taingahue and had not made a racial slur.”
  
  Why? Whatever a slur or insult, physical violence is not legal.
  
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  May 25, 2018 1:04pm
  - GoVege
    
    CL: this may come as a shock, but many people in this country are raised with NO respect for the law.
    They watch their dads illegally bash their mums, smoke dope illegally, pimp their siblings out illegally, and teach them crime from an early age.
    After one of NZ’s worst mass killings, when family members found the house full of slaughtered people and the killer still there, they didn’t even call the police then.
    They called some relations to subdue him.
    
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    May 25, 2018 2:38pm
- GoVege
  
  And this drunk is a mother of 4, out boozing, no doubt on the kids’ benny money.
  She’s probably repeating the cycle of her own upbringing.
  Can’t they take the kids off people like this before they’ve gone completely wild?
  
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  May 25, 2018 7:58pm
DigNap15

Cannabis referrendum

Just talk to any long term cannabis user and they will talk v e r y s l o w l y.
You can tell what it does to their brain.

We never hard a hard enough war on dope dealers and smokers.
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May 25, 2018 12:21pm
starboard

Good fucking riddance..

Dont let the door hit ya arse on the way out..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104210943/dame-susan-devoy-steps-down-from-hrc
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May 25, 2018 12:33pm
- lifesgood
  
  Cause for delight, for sure, she was an utterly useless waste of space and totally ill equipped for the job. The next problem, though, is who will they replace her with? I’m sure they can dredge up someone equally useless.
  
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  May 25, 2018 12:59pm
  - Inandout
    
    Try this one.
    
    https://www.odi.govt.nz/whats-happening/interview-paula-tesoriero/
    
    She is caretaking at present.
    
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    May 25, 2018 1:29pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      How come all these sports folk end up at the HRC?
      
      Does playing competitive sport deliver some deep insight into Human rights?
      
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      May 25, 2018 2:21pm
      - MH
        
        I nominate Richard Loe for his insightfulness. Big Bruv will undoubtedly back me up.
        
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        May 25, 2018 2:30pm
- Manolo
  
  The HRC, another quango that should be abolished and disbanded to the benefit of all NZ.
  
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  May 25, 2018 1:58pm
rangitoto

The Don spells it out for little rocket man:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/24/15/4C96E62400000578-5767219-image-a-36_1527172812764.jpg
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May 25, 2018 1:09pm
- Inandout
  
  That will keep the little prick on his toes, wondering what Trump has up his sleeve.
  
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  May 25, 2018 1:32pm
  - softail 1450
    
    inandout ,youve hit the nail on the head I&O, i suspect lil rocket man is shit scared of a hellfire missile visiting him when hes quaffing a large glass of $10,000 dollar a bottle whiskey or cognac .
    trump called his bluff and the fat pisshead has nowhere to hide.
    Can anybody imagine that useless POS obama doing this ? no, he’d be angling for a way to scrape in some cash out of the deal, the arsehole.
    
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    May 25, 2018 5:35pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  What a lovely letter.
  
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  May 25, 2018 2:18pm
  - MH
    
    yes, you could see the words stand out… glowing with all that uranium on the page…
    
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    May 25, 2018 2:24pm
    - Inandout
      
      Is that you David Lange, is that your voice from the beyond?
      
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      May 25, 2018 2:35pm
DigNap15

Re North Korea.
I do think the US should have just had talks with Kim Jong Un with no pre-conditions.
That’s what talks are all for.
Not agreeing to something that has already been worked out!
So now the US and the UN will have to ramp up the sanctions and really tighten up on those countries breaking them.
Eg search every ship.
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May 25, 2018 1:57pm
- Poppa
  
  I think it is all part of the negotiation process at this stage. Trump is just positioning himself with the upper hand.
  
  Rocket Man, your move
  
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  May 25, 2018 2:44pm
Monique Watson

Looks like we’re gonna fuck them up over the Golan Heights.
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May 25, 2018 2:02pm
cmm

So the bloke with a clever “I need sex or I will die” con is being jailed: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12058606

The woman should be institutionalized. If she falls for a line like that then she’s clearly too stupid to be walking around on her own in public.
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May 25, 2018 3:09pm
- GoVege
  
  Sounds like this young woman was subjected to a prolonged campaign of harassment that blurred her judgment.
  The sad lives so many people live.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:04pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

I’ve things to do later, so an early posting. Today it’s duo Sisters Underground with In The Neighbourhood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhK8o2lRy5o
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May 25, 2018 3:15pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104165569/name-change-for-levin-part-of-consultation

So some people want to change the name of Levin to “Taitoko”.

That would pretty well guarantee that when the expressway is built NOBODY will take the exit to the town.
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May 25, 2018 3:21pm
- Inandout
  
  Tutaetoko more like it. As if that town didn’t have enough problems already.
  
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  May 25, 2018 3:52pm
- VicParking
  
  Taitoko means ‘Adjustable’. ????
  Yet if you put Adjustable into the same translator and ask for Maori you get “ka taea te whakarite”
  What a language. And they want my grandkids to learn this crap
  
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  May 25, 2018 4:04pm
  - Inandout
    
    Te reo is merely Anglicised Maori.
    
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    May 25, 2018 4:32pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I think Taitoko is the name of one of the previous inhabitants of Horowhenua.
    https://nzhistory.govt.nz/keyword/levin
    
    But it could also mean high spring tide
    (Williams: Dictionary of the Maori Language p. 434)
    He tai toko ki te moana
    
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    May 25, 2018 6:53pm
Captain Mainwaring

Seems that Hugh’s given up the battle to stay on this blog for more than five minutes.
Good riddance.
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May 25, 2018 3:56pm
- sooty
  
  We put up with him for too long. Someone kindly said a report is better than a down tick and he was gone.
  
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  May 25, 2018 4:02pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “Someone kindly said a report is better than a down tick and he was gone.”
    
    That was me, and I take full credit. Thanks for the acknowledgement.
    
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    May 25, 2018 9:35pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Captain Mainwaring:
  
  I think the tipping point was when Hugh called Kiwiblog readers “yellow Tories” and “dumb motherfuckers”. We already knew that Hugh disrespected DPF by pissing all over his blog. We already knew that Hugh disrespected Kiwiblog readers by pissing all over them. But, from that point, we also knew that Hugh’s piss was a medically-toxic green colour.
  
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  May 25, 2018 4:31pm
Nostradamus

From Nasska’s religion today series: Archbishop Philip Wilson stands aside, asked families to ‘continue to pray for me’ in letter

A letter from the Archbishop of Adelaide, who has been convicted of covering up child sexual abuse, has asked families to “please continue to pray” for him. The closing line was sent in a letter written by Philip Wilson which was sent out to children and parents across Adelaide following his decision to step down from his duties as Archbishop earlier this week.

The opening line wasn’t much better: “As you are aware, on Tuesday I was found guilty of an offence in the Newcastle Local Court”. He makes it sound like he only got a parking ticket.
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May 25, 2018 4:38pm
- nasska
  
  I never saw that one approaching Nostra. Usually they are outed after years of molesting small boys under their care but the best the wretched, soft cocked Archbishop can come up with is aiding & abetting paedophilia.
  
  Maybe he got his rocks off watching instead.
  
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  May 25, 2018 5:05pm
  - stigie
    
    Doesn’t matter if you’re a Archbishop or a Cardinal Nasska, they still get their rocks off whether molesting small boys or think they are out of being a sordid bastard by watching !~
    
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    May 25, 2018 5:30pm
nasska

This is more like the abuse we have come to expect from REAL men of the cloth:

…..”My story begins nearly 4 decades ago in May of 1975. While at a church-sanctioned camping trip in northern California, I was raped, sodomized and strangled by Rev. Jerold Lindner, a Catholic priest. I was 7 years old.

I remember blacking out during the rape and regaining consciousness with semen in my mouth and the priest on top of me, his hands around my throat. As he strangled me, he spoke these unconscionable words: “You are no longer a child of God.” “……

None of this namby pamby fiddling & diddling!

http://riseaboveabuse.org/the-founders-story/
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May 25, 2018 5:18pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  a church-sanctioned camping trip
  
  Small blessings – in the 21st century people get to choose whether to attend a church-sanctioned camping trip or a Labour Party youth sex camp!
  
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  May 25, 2018 5:34pm
  - nasska
    
    At least at the Labour Party camp you’d be fed enough booze to dull the pain.
    
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    May 25, 2018 5:37pm
JibberJabber

Ramadan Bombathon 2018
Day 9
Attacks 42 Kills 155

Does not include today’s bomb in Toronto.
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May 25, 2018 5:46pm
Nostradamus

Barry Soper: “National’s David Bennett is the sort of bloke who’d find it hard saying boo to a goose.”
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May 25, 2018 5:46pm
- nasska
  
  From Nostra’s link:
  
  …..”when all hell broke loose with the shriek of Paula Bennett’s voice cutting through the rest, agreeing it was ridiculous, which immediately saw her being pointed toward the exit sign, becoming the first MP to be sent packing by Mallard.”…..
  
  That’s our Paula…..go get the bastard girl! 🙂
  
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  May 25, 2018 5:56pm
  - Johnboy
    
    I’ve never worked out how a speech impeded, fuckin ugly, serial adulterer can rise to the heights of Speaker of the house of representatives.
    Just shows how low our standards have slipped under this COL. 🙂
    
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    May 25, 2018 6:04pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Johnboy:
      
      It won’t take long and – poof! – we’ll have our first openly-gay speaker. Who’s available? I nominate Darren Hughes – as he’d have the rare gift of making MPs run from the parliamentary chamber at Usain Bolt speed!
      
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      May 25, 2018 6:13pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Can’t be Hughes he’s not an MP. I’d go for Hippy unless he tells us all about Jade in the Wimmens Weakly! 🙂
        
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        May 25, 2018 6:18pm
    - lifesgood
      
      That Jane Clifton must have been desperate, eh? Wonder if she’s regretting it now?
      
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      May 25, 2018 6:36pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Certainly not! A wonderful mansion in Faulke Ave. Wainui….how could she regret that? 🙂
        
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        May 25, 2018 6:44pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Johnboy:
        
        how could she regret that?
        
        Which one: the mansion or Wainui? 🙂
        
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        May 25, 2018 6:46pm
    - GoVege
      
      Coz he’s a studmuffin, jb?
      
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      May 25, 2018 8:48pm
Johnboy

This fella’s cracked it eh! 🙂
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/104130364/chocolate-and-tantra-the-passions-of-she-chocolates-bernie-prior
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May 25, 2018 5:55pm
- Nostradamus
  
  From Johnboy’s link:
  
  Nicole (not her real name), who is an energy healing therapist in the North Island, went to one of his talks in Tauranga around that time and was very impressed with the experience. She became a follower and helped organise his retreats and talks and remembers mail-outs, licking stamps and “printing out stuff”. Through the sect, Nicole, who describes herself as practical and sensible, met many wonderful single women who were similarly drawn to Prior and his teachings.
  
  Who knew “mail-outs”, “licking stamps” and “printing out stuff” could be so kinky?
  
  Prior has also developed a mystical dance that he calls “The Form Reality Practice” that he claims is a vehicle “to know and embody all that B points to”. Prior refers to himself as “B” because, as he told someone in an interview, his teachings are all about to “be prior to all things”.
  
  A “mystical dance” otherwise known as lap-dancing!
  
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  May 25, 2018 6:03pm
- nasska
  
  Have you thought of the upsides involved in turning “Chateau Johnboy” into an ashram?
  
  They’ve got chocolate covered but you could always specialise in lamb. 🙂
  
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  May 25, 2018 6:03pm
  - Johnboy
    
    If only Penny and Judith had responded to my plaintive calls for help it could have been a reality to day nasska! 🙂
    
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    May 25, 2018 6:06pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Johnboy:
      
      Penny and Judith
      
      You surely haven’t forgotten Lucia and her leather boots already old chap?
      
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      May 25, 2018 6:09pm
      - Johnboy
        
        She always kept me at arms length Nostra old chap! 🙂
        Besides I married a Catholic 47 years ago and would prefer a change! 🙂
        
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        May 25, 2018 6:15pm
Inandout

Two more mentally retarded males?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/bomb-explodes-at-mississauga-ont-restaurant-injuring-at-least-15-1.3944681
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May 25, 2018 6:01pm
starboard

More Maori crime. Fuckin low life scum.. And they want us to embrace all things Maori!? Get fucked.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/104205394/womans-face-degloved-during-frenzied-attack-on-van-of-orchard-workers
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May 25, 2018 6:31pm
- Johnboy
  
  You are obviously just not feeling the aroha yet old chap! 🙂
  
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  May 25, 2018 6:40pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Starboard:
  
  they want us to embrace all things Maori!?
  
  Not all things, old chap, just the good things. Should we try and compile a list?
  Left Right and Centre has one: hakas are a good way to keep warm in winter!
  
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  May 25, 2018 6:45pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Wearing your pyjamas and dressing gown to Countdown Wainui works too Nostra! 🙂
    
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    May 25, 2018 6:49pm
    - Johnboy
      
      That’s a traditional flax dressing gown of course!
      
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      May 25, 2018 6:50pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Don’t forget the Ug boots.
      
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      May 25, 2018 7:36pm
      - Johnboy
        
        It’s usualy the white gummies pinched from the boss they wear here in the Nui Oda old chap! 🙂
        
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        May 25, 2018 7:38pm
  - starboard
    
    I don’t miss the bastards over here. You can leave stuff outside overnight here and guarantee it will be still there in the morning..try doin that in Papatoetoe. I can also walk home fully intoxicated from a bar at 0200 and arrive in one piece..unstabbed, unbruised, no broken bones and with my wallet intact. Try doing that in Manurewa.
    
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    May 25, 2018 7:05pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Starboard:
      
      I can also walk home fully intoxicated from a bar at 0200 and arrive in one piece..unstabbed, unbruised, no broken bones and with my wallet intact.
      
      Unless (at least with respect to your wallet) you invite a ladyboy home with you? 🙂
      
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      May 25, 2018 7:13pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Or an ex Labour Party MP! 🙂
        
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        May 25, 2018 7:15pm
nasska

Newsflash:

Archaeologists discover fully intact 7th-century belief system in Middle East.
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May 25, 2018 6:58pm
- Johnboy
  
  What wonderful news nasska. If they dig down another couple of meters they will find Judaic artifacts predating the 7th century shite and settle the question of who owns the Middle East forever! 🙂
  
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  May 25, 2018 7:03pm
Nostradamus

Friday night video: 1 cat v 1 cat + 2 birds.
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May 25, 2018 7:10pm
- nasska
  
  Link won’t work Nostra.
  
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  May 25, 2018 7:18pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Likewise. Gave him a tick for trying anyway! 🙂
    
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    May 25, 2018 7:20pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Sorry chaps – it’s here. The comments are hilarious too!
    
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    May 25, 2018 7:22pm
  - nasska
    
    With mention of two pussies & a couple of birds DPF’s filters probably spoiled the link! 🙂
    
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    May 25, 2018 7:22pm
Odakyu-sen

I had hamburger tonight, but I must try to make a rice-burger next week…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjsirJ2YMXw
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May 25, 2018 7:39pm
- Johnboy
  
  Thank goodness Oda. You may be a Japper but you’re not a Jewish Japper obviously. 🙂
  
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  May 25, 2018 7:41pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Johnboy, it’s Friday and time for another conspiracy for the good folks of Wainuiomata!
    
    Did you know about the connection between the Japanese and Hebrew languages?!?!
    
    Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJmtH-V9qzg
    
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    May 25, 2018 7:54pm
    - Johnboy
      
      Well well. I’m not surprised at all Oda. After all, the twelve tribes of Israel were reputed to wander the world and after wandering through the desert sandstorms all the way to Nippon they would have developed slitty eyes! 🙂
      
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      May 25, 2018 8:01pm
      - Jack5
        
        “Japper,” “slitty eyes”, “Chinky” … frequent words in your posts, Johnboy – even with a Smiley.
        
        You’re not one of EAD’s neo-Nazis are you? EAD doesn’t use those terms in his posts that I have noticed, but the neo-Nazis attract some weird followers.
        
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        May 25, 2018 10:38pm
Viking2

Ripley’s believe it or not.

A city council is looking to introduce female symbols to pedestrian crossings in a bid to “improve gender equality”.

Brimbank Council in Melbourne’s west has asked for female ‘walk’ and ‘don’t walk’ figures to replace the male crossing silhouettes, the Herald Sun reported.

Mayor Margaret Giudice said the change could have a larger impact on the community than most would think.

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/05/why-a-council-is-changing-pedestrian-crossing-symbols-to-female.html

“There is a sort of rampant radical gender ideology that seems to be driving some of these things,” Ms O’Brien said.

“How putting a skirt on a stick figure crossing is going to save women from violence, I fail to see.”
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May 25, 2018 7:42pm
- Johnboy
  
  If they put big tits and a wobbly arse on them I’m all for it! 🙂
  
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  May 25, 2018 7:45pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Johnboy:
    
    big tits and a wobbly arse
    
    I think this is the future: public signage with “some very inappropriate content”!
    
    YOU know how it is. You’re on an innocent stroll home through your local streets, just trying to live a good Christian life. And then BAM! A bit of good old-fashioned hardcore pornography shows up in public to shatter your saintly aspirations.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:00pm
    - nasska
      
      It is times like this that the Godaddled take comfort from Genesis 38:9. 🙂
      
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      May 25, 2018 8:05pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The Brimbank Council in Melbourne obviously has too much time on its hands.
  Cut its budget by 15%.
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:06pm
Monique Watson

This is fucking idiocy:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12058703
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May 25, 2018 8:17pm
- Nostradamus
  
  From Monique’s link:
  
  The employee said Scott spoke to her before the assault, after she got a plate of sausage rolls at the morning tea. “He suggested that women shouldn’t be eating sausage rolls, they should be eating salad”, she said.
  
  Has David Scott shared his views with Megan “Pies!” Wood?
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:37pm
Maggy Wassilieff

You old farts can start standing for preggie school-girls on the bus now.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/104198203/hold-on-to-your-seats-students-no-longer-have-to-stand-for-adults-on-trains-buses
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May 25, 2018 8:19pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Maggy
  
  preggie school-girls
  
  Your link refers to “Dominion Post” and “Wellington” – surely it should be “Manurewa Post” and “South Auckland”?
  
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  May 25, 2018 8:24pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Not necessarily.
    
    I stood for a 6-7mo pregnant Wellie High School girl.
    
    Poor girl walked most of the way down the bus past loads of old farts before she got near me.
    I offered her my seat.
    She said she didn’t need it and I told her I sure did when I was pregnant.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:30pm
  - GoVege
    
    Met a schoolgirl mum in Rewa last year.
    Parents (amazed she had 2!) …were complaining she couldn’t get a benny coz she was….13.
    
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    May 25, 2018 8:51pm
    - nasska
      
      Any parent of a thirteen year old kid with two offspring should be taken out & shot with a pellet of their own shit. Nature may allow children to have children but it takes a terrible toll on their bodies while at that age they are immature & totally mentally unequipped to raise the unfortunate kids.
      
      For all the crap you throw at cockys at least we have enough sense not to get our lambs in lamb.
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:00pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Taught a yr 13 (7th form) guy whose current girlfriend was expecting his baby.
      He wandered into one of my junior classes one afternoon to tell me that she had just given birth.
      One of my stunned juniors asked when he left the room whether the guy had a kid.
      No, I replied… he had 2 kids now.
      
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      May 25, 2018 9:01pm
      - nasska
        
        And both kids odds on to receive the type of upbringing that would guarantee that the cycle would be repeated within a few short years.
        
        Mind you, very occasionally there are kids who get pregnant & through sheer determination succeed.
        
        There was an article in the Wairarapa Times Age a few years ago focussed on the teenage pregnancy unit of Makora College. (I can’t source a link).
        
        Anyway the article was about a teenage mother who became pregnant in her fifth form year. To complete her list of woe her father was estranged from the family & her mother died of cancer about the same time. Mum to be got a flat, stayed at college, completed her 6th form year & went on to varsity to complete a science based degree. In her spare time she took in her younger brother who went off the rails & straightened him out.
        
        I’ve often wondered if anything or anyone could ever stand between that kid & success.
        
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        May 25, 2018 9:22pm
sooty

New word, FAKEUGES. Labours fake refugees from Manus island and other places.
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May 25, 2018 9:20pm
Monique Watson

And under the heading of: Oh Do Fuck Right Off:

Check out the white Golliwog grin on Woods:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104212979/prime-minister-offers-reassurance-to-oil-and-gas-workers-during-taranaki-visit
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May 25, 2018 9:28pm
- Piniwi
  
  But MW where are all those fuzzy sound bites on this visit by the SLG? Did all not go as planned or did they all flat batteries in their cameras?
  
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  May 25, 2018 11:14pm
Maggy Wassilieff

78 year-old granny terrified of being sent back to NZ…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12058835
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May 25, 2018 9:28pm
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  Granny got away with it. And doesn’t she look like she murdered a dingo with her bare teeth? The cat’s on meth. You can tell by the stupid fucking grin.
  
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  May 25, 2018 9:38pm
noskire

Interesting read from the NY Times. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/24/opinion/north-korea-trump-military-strikes.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
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