General Debate 22 May 2018

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Don’t breastfeed after a spraytan

LOL !!!!!!!!!
Have a nice day.
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May 22, 2018 8:20am
Lipo

Problem – Full Prisons
Solution – Outsource prisoners to China. I am sure it would be cheaper to send our criminals to China for them to handle than it would be to lock them up here
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May 22, 2018 8:21am
- Lance
  
  If that didn’t lower the reoffending rate, I don’t know what would.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:30am
- RalphT
  
  Won’t work – didn’t you see that China is refusing to take our trash for recycling?
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:32am
  - JIV
    
    oops sorry. Fat fingers just reported you. Total accident!
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:44am
    - RalphT
      
      That’s ok, so long as there aren’t another five people with fingers like yours!
      
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      May 22, 2018 8:56am
- Liberty
  
  Hot bed the Convicts. That would double the capacity.
  Problem solved.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:01am
- G152
  
  The Chinese have a policy that keeps their prison numbers down.
  Within an hour of sentencing they shoot the crim
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:01am
- RW Capitalist
  
  If we can move native birds to an off shore Island.
  Why not criminals?
  We could name it “Devils Island” how very French.
  There’s no copy write on the name, is there?
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:09am
  - Jack5
    
    Waiheke would be ideal. Commuting distance for the jailers.
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:24am
    - Lance
      
      Keeping with the Auckland theme…
      How about Auckland Island?
      
      No jailers needed, just drop em off
      
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      May 22, 2018 1:13pm
- kiwicambo
  
  Sensational idea. Outsource all the prisoners to an island. Make it into a Reality TV show in the style of The Hunger Games.
  We will then have freed up beds to house the homeless!
  Two birds with one stone
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:35am
  - geoff3012
    
    Couldn’t they send them to Chompers favorite Island? Manus?
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:13am
    - Duxton
      
      Actually, I’ve visited the reffo centre on Manus, and it ain’t too bad. It’s probably on a par with a new prison like Spring Hill. We need to stop building flash/expensive places, and go back to basics. Stone/concrete walls, a bunk, toilet and handbasin. Mandatory ban on smoking: if the wardens aren’t allowed to, why should the crims.
      
      If the UN human rights peeps don’t like it, tough.
      
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      May 22, 2018 9:15pm
  - peterwn
    
    There are already spare beds at the disused Mt Crawford Prison. It could be used for emergency accommodation.
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:38pm
- Piniwi
  
  But Lipo it brings a whole new meaning to BnB. Bros on Bail. Get used to seeing quotes of “the accused was on bail for a much more serious crime than this charge thus should be released without conviction.”
  
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  May 22, 2018 2:02pm
Wangas Feral

Thanks for your comments about my dog yesterday. Buried him in the front yard so he will be keeping an eternal watch on the drive and front gate.
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May 22, 2018 8:23am
- Paulus
  
  Used to live literally on a golf course where our last dog is buried on the very open boundary.
  Tells me every time that that should be my second shot not my third.
  Miss them all.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:30am
- waikatogirl
  
  ? ?
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:44am
- Inandout
  
  A replica human shrunken head prominently displayed on the driveway will do the same. It scares the hell out of some ethnics.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:51am
  - Duxton
    
    So does a Kuni pig…..
    
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    May 22, 2018 10:11am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Spooky for the postman.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:10am
Im Right

I have to admit, I’m looking forward to Jacinda going away for 6 or so weeks (I think ultimately she will relinquish the PM role before the next election) just so the stand in can make a fool of himself for all to see in refusing to answer any questions and have a go at every interviewer, he will be shown up as the clown he really is as he will not be speaking as leader of NZ First but PM of the country and he will not be able to adjust nor help himself in his distain for MSM…stock up on the popcorn guys, gonna be fun!
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May 22, 2018 8:24am
- tf78
  
  I have a horrible feeling that now Jacinda has had the taste of power she will not give it up in a hurry.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:27am
  - fernglas
    
    She won’t be asked to. The youthful female PM, leader of a leftish party on maternity leave, coming back with the baby-of-the Nation and getting the shove? Not a chance.
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:30am
  - cmm
    
    Quite.
    
    I was predicting she would bail at the budget because it would just be too much and she’d rather just take a sickie for the next few weeks.
    
    But the addiction of power seems strong. She’s holding on for all she’s worth.
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:33am
    - Piniwi
      
      But cmm it might be the toy boy propping her up so he can keep his star status? While he might like to be known as the First Bloke many see him as a last hope for the Commie Chick finally getting off the shelf before 40. Perhaps the domestic arrangement might crumble along with a changed seating arrangement in the House?
      
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      May 22, 2018 2:23pm
  - Paulus
    
    Heard from my friend a retired Waikato Dairy farmer and said they were grateful she was not where their farm was as that would be the largest way of the farm getting a disease. They mean of course too many of the wrong people roam at will on the farms.
    They believe it originates with bad overseas semen.
    But Catastrophe Cindy is clever with deep knowledge of farming from a Waikato Fish and Chip shop background.
    But she will sort it all out with your money by the time she retires – Friday I believe.
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:34am
    - Duxton
      
      I thought that her current medical condition is a result of bad New Zealand semen.
      
      Then I re-read your post, and realised you were talking about the cow disease.
      
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      May 22, 2018 12:15pm
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        Now now, calling her a cow is ok, but referringto her pregnancy as a disease is going a bit far.
        
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        May 22, 2018 12:29pm
      - Duxton
        
        Dafi:
        
        I didn’t call it a ‘disease’ – I called it a ‘medical condition’.
        
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        May 22, 2018 12:36pm
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        I was stirring about your last sentence. ?
        
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        May 22, 2018 12:55pm
      - Duxton
        
        Touché, Dafi!
        
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        May 22, 2018 6:25pm
  - Ruahine
    
    She will not give it up. Have you noticed that everything is ‘I’ when we talk about the government. Quite obviously in her mind the Government belongs to her. In some ways she is probably right in the fact that she was the one who came up best when it came to the airbrushing for the trash mags and who has best friends in the media.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:15am
  - Harkman
    
    Why would she? She can now govern via hologram (good gosh shoot me now).
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:29am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Hollowgram, don’t you mean?
      
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      May 22, 2018 12:35pm
      - Harkman
        
        ?
        
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        May 22, 2018 2:00pm
      - RF
        
        Hang on.
        
        Do we need Peters to be acting PM if she can govern by hologram ?
        
        The possibilities are endless…..
        
        She could suddenly appear in your bedroom at the most inappropriate time. A new method of birth control.
        
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        May 22, 2018 3:31pm
  - Piniwi
    
    True tf78 it is hilarious watching her speaking as she now seems to have got some weird idea she “speaks with authority”. The only problem with so many sound bites and out bursts from her offers more opportunities for more lies. In addition to her body language broadcasting her big “tells” we now identify certain words as an equally loud “tell”. That is only if one is prepared to actually listen to her as opposed to noting when gob and foot are engaged.
    
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    May 22, 2018 2:15pm
- pdm
  
  Im right – if you are right they are going to have to find a new Prime Minister from within Labours ranks as Winston is only a maternity fill in.
  
  Options are:
  Deputy Kelvin – who couldn’t run a bath.
  Angry Andy – the Unions choice
  Grunter Grant – the try hard without Union support.
  
  Given the unions probably orchestrated Jacindas ascent to the throne I will go with Angry Andy but it will take them three months to work through the process and the infighting will be entertaining.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:32am
  - cmm
    
    “they are going to have to find a new Prime Minister from within Labours ranks”
    
    Why? If Winston says he’s quite comfortable in the big chair how are anyone going to budge him?
    
    All he needs to do is threaten to take his little waka full of cronies to the crossbenches and they will all fall into line.
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:35am
    - pdm
      
      Nah – the Unions will not allow Winston to stay in charge. They have too much at stake and need their own appointee.
      
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      May 22, 2018 8:39am
      - cmm
        
        and how would the unions stop Winnie?
        
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        May 22, 2018 9:19am
    - MrLovebucket
      
      Winston is struggling and there is something definitely not right with him.
      
      Did you hear his budget reply speech? He clearly forgot where he was (or even what decade it was) and was just a rambling mess that bore no resemblance to the moment.
      
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      May 22, 2018 8:56am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Granddad, what’s that suppository doing in your ear … and where’s your hearing aid?
        
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        May 22, 2018 10:46am
      - Right of way is Way of Right
        
        Winston doesn’t hear through his arse mate, he talks out of it!!
        
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        May 22, 2018 1:15pm
      - Paulus
        
        Isn’t Peters still in a Japan on a jaunt currently ?
        
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        May 22, 2018 1:23pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Right MrLovebucket it is increasingly obvious that the old drunk is slipping and without any speculation about health issues it might be simply the aging process. Having watched him perform in the House back in the day he is barely a patch on what he used to be in manner, ability or strength of his verbal delivery. He is well past his UBD and it is only his protracted stay they makes him an elder statesman of no particular note. Sad to watch.
        
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        May 22, 2018 2:36pm
      - RF
        
        It was quite noticeable during question time. Peters has a problem. He was either pissed or has a medical condition that presents with similar symptoms.
        
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        May 22, 2018 3:35pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      And Labour could then call his bluff with another election.
      
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      May 22, 2018 9:29am
      - sooty
        
        Nah. They would never be game.
        
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        May 22, 2018 6:30pm
  - Paulus
    
    No, I think you are not correct – The Unions did not push or support Calamity Cindy but there was a loophole in the (new) Party Unions rules which allowed Helen Clark and Grant Robertson to “change” the minds of the Labour caucus.
    Normally the Party Union led choose – this time it was the caucus.
    Will be changed at next AGM.
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:39am
    - pdm
      
      Fair comment Paulus.
      
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      May 22, 2018 9:27am
    - Piniwi
      
      Guess Paulus you too would agree from knowing the unions MO they will swallow any dead rat to get even a piece of power. Like we know they are the most ardent lobby group since they are the ones who dictate the degree of “neutrality” of all bureaucrats. Their muscle is not only flexed from the top.
      
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      May 22, 2018 2:43pm
  - Im Right
    
    Angry Andy would always be the #1 pick if Cindy decided the stress is too much and she ops out of being PM, he is just biding his time as he knows the unions will install him as leader again.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:53am
  - dotocomo
    
    Grant Robinson would be a formidable leader, at least he speaks English coherently and seems likeable
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:44pm
- artemisia
  
  We will of course have to wait to see how Mr Peters operates as Acting PM. My view is that this is his chance to set up a decent NZ First legacy for 2020, so he will take a firm but non confrontational stance.
  
  Will it work for NZ First? Probably not, but I can’t see him going feral in the big chair.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:34am
- Happychappy
  
  Who are you trying to kid, have you not seen other world leaders turn to dictators to remain in power for their own selfish needs. Without saying the Labour Leader and our PM is a dictator she is selfish and makes decisions that suits her and not her Party or the NZ public. Jacinda is a attention seeker and now she has the thirst for power and her will could not stop her trying to make history.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:42am
  - Piniwi
    
    Right Happychappy this is one silly little selfish girl who has already managed several “firsts” as she pisses off friends and allies to show her “power”. It is very important to hear “what” and the manner in which is said. Started with frequent use “I” then when unity was needed that got dialled back but now has become even more dominant.
    Sadly for the fairer sex she will be forever a serious deterrent to female progress to the PC feminists thrust for greater equality. The majority of men know they are equal and for some even the balance is the other way.
    
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    May 22, 2018 2:54pm
- calendar girl
  
  Im Right, I can’t see that myself, i.e. “Jacinda going away for 6 or so weeks”.
  
  She and her child (plus the celebrity partner, of course) will be all over our shallow and demented media for most of that 6-weeks period. After the first 48 hours it will be anything but “news” or “newsworthy”, of course, but we will continue to be fed a fulsome diet of social trash talk (with multiple pictures!) that will become nauseating.
  
  My only sympathy is for the poor (as-yet unborn) child who is going to have to live for the rest of its life with a permanently-recorded history of this entire charade. I hope that, eventually, the child will be able to live its own happy and fulfilling life.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:07am
  - pdm
    
    OMG – there will probably be photos of her breast feeding in Bellamys.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:29am
    - gorse
      
      Or worse, in the house
      
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      May 22, 2018 3:47pm
- youcanthandlethetruth
  
  Just wait for all the gushing when she becomes our first solo mum prime minister.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:26am
  - BeaB
    
    It’s clear she is loving every minute. She basks in the adulation of the media, she loves the attention, the platform, the sound of her own voice. A total egoist!
    Not to mention the money, status, fawning, perks.
    She’ll have to be carried out before she relinquishes power.
    The media portray her as she has chosen – sweet, kind-hearted, earnest – but just look at her in Parliament where her claws come out and we get pure venom.
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:34am
Poppa

Dear Kelvin

I heard your interview with Larry Williams last night. Sadly Kelvin you have no idea & should find another way of making a living. I get that National was going to build the mega prison & therefore it must be stopped, but at least have an alternative.

Perhaps you could give it to another one of your working groups to sort out, if there are any of your crony mates available.

For everyone’s sake son just quit
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May 22, 2018 8:28am
- Inandout
  
  Kelvin’s response invariably was, ‘we will have to look at all possible angles, so we arrive at the right answer’. Labour’s answer by releasing criminals is not necessarily the correct answer.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:57am
  - kiwicambo
    
    And fair enough too. Clearly 9 years in opposition wasn’t enough time to arrive at the right answer
    
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    May 22, 2018 10:38am
  - Piniwi
    
    Funny Inandout to hear a native again saying ‘we will have to look at all possible angles” as we know their knowledge of angles is a foundation of their demands.
    
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    May 22, 2018 2:59pm
- kowtow
  
  Spending $200 million on a temporary fix instead of $ 1 billion on a permanent fix shows these mongs have no idea of fiscal responsibility and are driven by left wing hug a crim ideology.
  
  This nation can’t fix the crime wave driven by social decay ( drugs and bastardy) , the cops are run off their feet with their prioritising of so called domestic violence (again drugs and transient relationships)
  
  Meanwhile the most dangerous thing most Aotearoans will do is to get in a car or take to the road . The nongs are not paying attention to their driving.(phones) While Plod only cares about revenue gathering for minor exceeding the limit!
  
  ‘Six people are dead as a result of crashes around the country at the weekend, the toll the second-highest for a weekend so far this year.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/another-horror-weekend-nz-roads
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:09am
  - Piniwi
    
    Anticipation Kpwtow they say is half the enjoyment and with strong signals of A) more crim hugging B) limited detection and policing of drug addled drivers and C) possible major softening of drug laws is starting to show. In fact we can well expect to see the crime rate sore in coming months which will blow the COL argument for less cells out of the water.
    It is the things they intend to tamper with that have lowered crime rates since even a little time in custody on remand can be a very strong lesson and a deterrent. Nobody else dared to take away their techno toys, belt, shoe laces and shut them behind bars before. For many young putty people it would be enough to turn them completely white and get them back on the right path. Their new tune would soon become “What a Friend We Have In Justice” set me on a path to life – outside. Set to a rap or hip hop beat could be a chart topper. Choice bro.
    
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    May 22, 2018 3:16pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Surely you don’t want him to go back to teaching? Please think of the children. Demonstrating the folly of affirmative action is an important job. He’s performing well in that role and should keep doing it.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:14am
  - tf78
    
    He’s probably one of the reasons Charter Schools were established in the first place.
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:04am
- Duxton
  
  Also, Kelvin, we get that you are pissed that so many of your own family members are doing time. But that is their fault, not ours.
  
  Maybe you should sort your own feral scum out rather than inflicting them on the rest of us.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:27am
  - Piniwi
    
    Luckily Duxton to some degree we can be thankful that it is the tribal elite that grab all the settlement gains. Lucky too that they remain so tribal to never realise the true potential power their people could achieve from unity. Instead of demanding gifted representation or enforced consultation they could start to draw all their people together. Instead of letting them be totally dependent on the state entice them back into their tribes with education, accommodation and support from day one. Restore pride, passion and prosperity through their gains by investing in their people first. Create a strong representative tribal council with tribal issues resolved by majority to go forward to the level of establishing a native party.
    Don’t laugh but it is hard to not to since it will never happen since they will never leave the trough. That will remain forever the only flavour of democracy they have a taste for.
    
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    May 22, 2018 3:31pm
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The US needs to get think of getting out of occupied South Korea

North Korea is already getting concessions ahead of Trump-Kim talks

“South Korea wanted out of a joint military exercise that could anger Kim Jong Un. The US accepted.The United States agreed to downsize a military exercise with South Korea over concerns about how North Korea would react — in an effort not to anger Pyongyang just weeks before the planned summit between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

Citing unnamed US officials, the Wall Street Journal reported on Friday that Seoul was worried Pyongyang might bristle at a joint US-South Korea-Japan air exercise, especially because the US planned to fly B-52 planes.

Those planes can carry nuclear weapons, and Pyongyang would (understandably) be unhappy if they flew so close to — or even over — the Korean Peninsula. Pyongyang already claims that any US-South Korea military training is just practice for a future invasion of North Korea. The US has in the past flown B-52s near the peninsula in response to North Korean nuclear tests, angering Pyongyang…”.

https://www.vox.com/2018/5/18/17368468/north-korea-trump-usa-south-korea-b52
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May 22, 2018 8:29am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Anyone else playing the can-can music in their head as the red ticks pile up ? No ?
  
  And . . . 1 000 apologies for being first post with youtube shit.
  GD was late – what can you do ? 8:20am should’ve been way down the page – sheesh.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:34am
  - Harkman
    
    You just tick the thumbs down and get rid of the bastard. He should have been banned long ago.
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:53am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Maybe it’s time to think about giving him the Hugh treatment – 6 ‘reports’ and he’s gone.
      
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      May 22, 2018 9:02am
- Inandout
  
  B-52 planes are one of the most successful aircraft ever built, and have dropped lots of bombs on commies worldwide.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:00am
EAD_TWO

This may come as a surprise to those who don’t read my words closely, but I actually support the right of Jews to have their own State for which to call home.

What I disagree with however is the double standards. Why must Europeans and only Europeans have their ancient countries transformed and subsumed into the “globalism” blob?

Can you imagine the international uproar if, for example, a European Leader called the unending boatloads of military age men crossing the Mediterranean a name let alone shooting and killing dozens of them? Actually, I can:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-31/david-cameron-under-fire-for-describing-migrants-as-a-swarm/6661790

Which brings me to the news I’ve read this morning.

According to Israeli academic Yuval Noah Harari, the world is being, and will continue to be “blended into a single global civilisation”.

Presumably he doesn’t mean Israel which maintains strict apartheid style segregation laws (including making it a crime for a Jew to marry a non-Jew + only permitting immigrants if they are of the blood )

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/may/21/yuval-noah-harari-brexit-will-not-halt-drive-to-human-unification

It may come a a surprise again, but I actually support “diversity”, but just not of the kind Harari is pushing.

A diversity of nations around the globe with their own unique cultures and traditions co-operating together freely rather than the bland Corporate i-phone nations full of crime, grime and overlords like Devoy who lecture and hound us less we have think incorrect thoughts or Orwellian Cops who monitor us all day every day in case we say the wrong things on Social Media.

Say no to a single global civilisation
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May 22, 2018 8:31am
Left Right and Centre

Boy do we ever hate the paparazzi . . .
But then tell me – who else has a global live feed of their wedding ceremony ?

hmmm . . .
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May 22, 2018 8:31am
- Lance
  
  So you are saying the BBC are the paparazzi now?
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:35am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    I’m saying it’s funny when people cake themselves with shit then bleat about the flies.
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:41am
- greybeard
  
  This is not hard to understand.
  As the Royal Family, the British Institution, they are obliged to share matters of state and of public interest.
  As a normal family of flesh-and-blood human beings they are at the same time entitled to their privacy and dignity.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:50am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    You’re totally wrong mate.
    They are not obliged to do anything.
    They have a choice to ‘be royals’.
    They could just as easily choose to be private citizens, and not be ‘royals’.
    
    No-one is forcing anyone to have their wedding live to the world. Make sense ?
    You might’ve heard of David who abdicated ?
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:00am
    - tf78
      
      Wasn’t David, George’s brother – (who ended up marrying Mary) the one who died. I think it was Edward who married Mrs Simpson who abdicated.
      
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      May 22, 2018 11:12am
      - BeaB
        
        David became Edward VIII. When he abdicated, his brother Albert (Bertie) became George VI. Neither married Mary – that was George V who married his deceased brother’s fiancée.
        They can choose their name as sovereign and there are suggestions Charles may also choose George when he succeeds.
        Royal trivia! Pity our dim-witted announcers didn’t know a bit more of it during the wedding when they regaled us with vacuous inanities.
        
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        May 22, 2018 11:38am
Fletch

It looks like Trump is finally going after the lawless deep state – the intelligence agencies who spied on his campaign during the election. The media aren’t happy though; throwing around terms like ‘threat to democracy etc’.

I hereby demand, and will do so officially tomorrow, that the Department of Justice look into whether or not the FBI/DOJ infiltrated or surveilled the Trump Campaign for Political Purposes – and if any such demands or requests were made by people within the Obama Administration!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 20, 2018

One of the main culprits, John Brennan, is scared –

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/05/20/panic-time-john-brennan-demands-gop-leadership-stop-trump-before-his-admin-looks-into-this/

And so he should be.
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May 22, 2018 8:35am
- Nermal
  
  The MSM have gone from laughing at Trump’s claim that the FBI spied on him, to claiming it was the Russians, to now saying the FBI “monitored Trump’s campaign for “his own safety”
  
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  May 22, 2018 4:09pm
hullkiwi

Proof that we have an industry out of control.

This morning’s lead news story on Red Radio was social workers claiming that children as young as 7 & 8 had told them they wanted to commit suicide because they lived in violent households.

However, different groups are arguing amongst themselves as to whether this is a home violence situation or a mental health one. What it smacked of, it is a case of the special interest groups lining up with their hands out.

As one person pointed out, if children are truly suffering because of domestic violence, isn’t it about time we solved d?omestic violence rather than continuing to talk about it & study it?
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May 22, 2018 8:36am
- Paulus
  
  Are we allowed to ask for an analysis of the ethnicity and locations of these children ?
  No – though not !
  What then is the proximate cause of these children’s deaths ? – FFS don’t tell me lack of money. I am tired of this as an excuse.
  Could it be the parents – to be born requires a man and a woman, and their own upbringing, and lack of education ?
  Were the parents born here – are they New Zealand Citizens ?
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:47am
  - sooty
    
    Don’t think there will be many with chinky sounding names.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:01am
    - kowtow
      
      Funnily enough sooty , for recent arrivals who will have been vetted by the state ( yeah right) I’d suggest that crime committed by said ethnicity is disproportionate to their numbers here.
      
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      May 22, 2018 9:16am
  - kowtow
    
    Ethnicity and marital status please.
    
    Media are very happy to tell us the colour of Americans shot by white cops, so we have a good predecent.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:14am
- VicParking
  
  In the same interview it seems that 70% of people in jail have Drug, Alcohol or Mental problems and should be released. Not into my street please. This mad idea is raising the old adage, “We have people who are Bad and Mad and those that are Mad and Bad.” The former should be in prison the latter in a secure mental establishment. There is nothing to say that both of these institutions should not be in the same location. You cant do this by locking people up in ‘Containers with windows’. You need a large institution which can support the staff required to treat those that need treatment and ‘beat’ those that need ‘beating’.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:55am
  - tf78
    
    I think the people with drug addictions should be housed in very large farm type facilities where they can get clean and work on the land which is very therapeutic for mental conditions. The hardest part is getting them off the drugs and keeping them clean. They have similar facilities to this in Australia – sometime times it takes a few lags, but I think they are seeing some improvement.
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:31am
- backster
  
  For a lolly 7-8 yr olds will tell you what you want to hear.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:56am
  - VicParking
    
    Don’t give Stephie Ideas ??
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:14am
  - lifesgood
    
    How true, just as pre schoolers did in that appaling Christchurch Creche case.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:16am
- artemisia
  
  Even one child considering death is too many. But these social workers seem heavily into anecdata. Nothing to do with more funding I am sure.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:50am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Kids living in a drug fucked environment
  
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  May 22, 2018 6:23pm
waikatogirl

I have been wondering about how contagious Mycoplasma bovis is? It is clear after Gypsy day on 1 June when many sharemilkers move their herds to new farms the horse will well and truly have bolted. This disease is going to cost the economy heavily.
What you going to do about it Cindy? Bailing in 3 weeks and 4 days to have your baby so it’s decision time!

“Most farmers are too trusting about access and movements on their farms, especially given that milk production is their livelihood.
Contagious mastitis can be caused by several different bacteria, some uncommon in NZ, but none should be tolerated here. Vigilance, education and knowledge of contagious mastitis are increasingly important.
Elevated somatic cell count (SCC) in individual cows does not always reliably indicate the presence of contagious mastitis. Often suspicion is only raised because milk quality has been negatively impacted, routine treatments are unsuccessful or large numbers of cows are affected. If the problem remains unchecked, economic losses may be substantial and solving the problems can be more difficult.
Once in cows the bacteria will spread very quickly from clusters cow to cow, but there will be clues to how these bugs turned up in the cows in the first place.
Mycoplasma bovis is spread between cows by contact, milking routines, contaminated equipment, movement of affected cows and calf milk. It does not respond to treatment, spreads rapidly and affects multiple quarters of cows. This is an exotic disease with affected farms controlled by MPI.
Contagious mastitis is often difficult to control since cow-to-cow transfer during milking is an effective means of transmission. “
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May 22, 2018 8:40am
- MCos
  
  “What you going to do about it Cindy?”
  
  Nanny state will fix it.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:51am
  - waikatogirl
    
    You may scoff MCos until the bottom falls out of the agricultural dollar.
    Some are saying this disease will just have to be managed by farmers increasing their stock health through improving soils, more nutritious grass and lower stocking numbers.
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:58am
    - Inandout
      
      And when milk gets scarce in supermarkets, even the Greens will moan; well those that don’t drink almond milk.
      
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      May 22, 2018 9:03am
    - MCos
      
      I’m not scoffing at all. Of course this is a very serious problem.
      However.
      On the other hand when it’s city people who have genuinely fallen on hard times they get labeled as lazy, cigarette smoking, gamblers and all the rest, if they can’t make do on $15/hr.
      
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      May 22, 2018 9:17am
      - kowtow
        
        There’s a huge labour shortage in NZ. They can go to where the work is.If they don’t then they are lazy and all the rest.
        
        But as you’ve said Nanny will fix it , by paying people to stay where there’s no work.
        
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        May 22, 2018 9:26am
  - Ross12
    
    I read a comment yesterday that MPI had asked the industry a few months back for help in terms of personnel etc. The industry had a list ready in a couple of days of people who would/could help and gave it to MPI. A few months later, nothing from MPI.
    Also I heard it reported late last week that Damien O’Connor had said the Police have opened an investigation about how the virus got into NZ. There must be something going on in the background if the Police have effectively gone over the top of MPI.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:16am
    - KevOB
      
      With rabid greens or their ilk there is plenty of room to be concerned about a deliberate attack on cows. The Police don’t need MPI to give them authority.
      
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      May 22, 2018 1:26pm
  - oldgolfer
    
    An inquiry, of course. Fixes everything.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:24am
    - sooty
      
      Not eveything. Still don’t know the gropers name yet. Soon though.
      
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      May 22, 2018 6:41pm
- Harkman
  
  So how exactly is MpV spread? Can it spread unsuspectingly from one farmer walking in gumboots to the next farm for a chat or does the actual cow need to carry the virus ie via loaned out livestock? Why I ask is that I suspected that the PSA virus that damaged the kiwifruit industry was sabotage. This could have been by one of two means: foreigners seeking to do harm to help their sector or local aggrieved left wing animal rights groups getting revenge.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:03am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Cows are very social and often rub up against each other with lots of phlegm hanging from their mouths and blowing in the wind. I’m guessing that any contact stock in paddocks, eating grass and feed, drinking from the same troughs, etc is enough. Total separation of those infected stock from those that are not appears to be the only protection?
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:25am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Hello downticker. Hope your day is going well. Do you have another description of how cows interact??
      
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      May 22, 2018 11:13am
      - gorse
        
        You’ll have to change your name. I noticed Cindy has renamed Waikato, it is now Waikado”. At least that it what she called it on TV last night.
        
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        May 22, 2018 8:32pm
  - Sideoiler
    
    …. Why I ask is that I suspected that the PSA virus that damaged the kiwifruit industry was sabotage……
    
    Sabotage? more like poor performance by the regulator.
    https://www.freshfruitportal.com/news/2017/09/11/nz-mpi-wrong-allow-imports-pollen-says-kiwifruit-claim-rep/
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:26am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Here’s a 2-page summary from MPI about Mycoplasma bovis and how it is spread.
    
    https://www.mpi.govt.nz/dmsdocument/19067-mycoplasma-bovis-fact-sheet
    
    Seems pretty easy for the organism to get from beast to beast and farm to farm…
    Shedding (of Mycoplasma) from infected animals occurs mainly from the eyes, nose, vagina, rectum, semen and milk. Animals do not have to be visibly sick in order to shed the agent.
    and
    Spread between farms: Mycoplasma bovis is spread primarily by movement of infected cattle or in-contact equipment (e.g. milking equipment, artificial insemination equipment).
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:51am
    - kowtow
      
      This article is quite informative.
      
      https://www.odt.co.nz/rural-life/dairy/we-are-being-portrayed-criminals-southland-farmer
      
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      May 22, 2018 11:04am
  - Paulus
    
    Why should the possibility of deliberate damage being done by foreigners ?
    We have enough twisted people to do anything similar here.
    Animal rights activists exist within Greenpeace and the Green Party.
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:31pm
    - Harkman
      
      Well exactly.
      
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      May 22, 2018 2:03pm
- JIV
  
  Is this not a convenient excuse to cull New Zealands cows, as it is a major policy of the Greens?
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:16am
- kowtow
  
  Slightly ot . “Gypsy Day”
  
  Another reason to never trust a Green. They are far left, bully boy, thug, control freaks.
  
  ‘ORC chief executive Peter Bodeker said yesterday the council’s decision was prompted by concerns from Dunedin City councillor Aaron Hawkins, who said the term “gypsy” was offensive as it was often used as a slur against Roma people.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/central-otago/laws-unrepentant-about-‘gypsy’-post
  
  This year they’ve reinstated using the term , so it can’t be that offensive.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:31am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Michael Laws is a class act. Priceless:
    
    “Wonder when they will banish all the ‘gypsy fairs’ from the region?? Better censor My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding while they’re at it”.
    
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    May 22, 2018 10:30am
  - Jack5
    
    Hawkins is Deep Green:
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/dcc/mayoral-profile-aaron-hawkins
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:32am
    - KevOB
      
      I’m encouraging Magenta which absorbs green annihilating it.
      
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      May 22, 2018 1:29pm
mandk

Maduro greets the adoring masses after another famous election victory: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/21/maduro-wins-rivals-call-new-venezuela-elections/

I wouldn’t want to be the camerman who took that footage when Maduro sees it.
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May 22, 2018 8:43am
- Dave Mann
  
  Thanks for the link mandk! Fantastic footage!
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:34am
- Rich Prick
  
  Oh, but he could see his adoring crowd, socialism is a mental illness with many symptoms.
  
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  May 22, 2018 3:51pm
MCos

Guns dont kill people, trench coats kill people

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/05/21/In-response-to-school-shooting-in-Texas-Hugh-Hewitt-proposes-a-ban-on-trench-coats/220263
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May 22, 2018 8:54am
- Gravelroad
  
  Have there been any studies on the impact of constant gaming (especially violent war gaming) on young minds?
  This last 17-year-0ld shooter is reportedly a compulsive gamer.
  The Las Vegas murderer also – although he was not a teenager.
  The lines between addiction to violent gaming and the reality of going out and killing actual people seem to be increasingly blurred.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:42am
  - kowtow
    
    Or is it that losers and loners are more attracted to excessive gaming than normal folk?
    
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    May 22, 2018 10:51am
  - noskire
    
    Gravelroad, there have been many studies trying to prove a link. The thing is the majority of teen boys play violent video games, but 99.9% don’t go on to slaughter their classmates.
    Just as the majority of teen boys in the US have relatively easy access to firearms, yet very, very few go on a violent rampage.
    What we do know is school-shooters are typically white, from a middle-class background (so not disadvantaged in many respects) – yet don’t have the same social skills as their peers, and generally don’t do well academically (yet have higher than average intelligence).
    All within the context of a society that increasingly craves instant gratification and fame.
    As I posted yesterday, it’s better to be notorious, than not noticed at all.
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:02am
    - waikatogirl
      
      One of the latest shooters victims was a girl who turned him down for a date. He was seriously pissed off at the world.
      
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      May 22, 2018 11:16am
      - noskire
        
        Yup, they are pissed off at the world. But ultimately, I think they are more pissed off at themselves. When you lose hope in yourself, what have you got?
        
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        May 22, 2018 11:31am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        No one is of less value to society than a young man.
        
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        May 22, 2018 12:48pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        They actually have the highest value as they have a whole lifetime of tax paying ahead of them, and will on average work more years and earn more and consume lass welfare than women.
        
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        May 22, 2018 1:04pm
    - tf78
      
      I think there has been a link found between anti-depressants and the rampages. It seems the last six or so people who carried out these mass killings were all on similar medication.
      
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      May 22, 2018 11:49am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Thanks for your feedback.
      Other Half here still has no regrets about banning (quite a few years ago now it must be said) an early computer game called Double Dragon.
      DD had captured the fancy of a teenage family member but OH reckoned it was too violent.
      Probably tame by today’s standards.
      
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      May 22, 2018 11:50am
    - MCos
      
      Conservative politicians and the NRA have come up with a litany of reasons why these young people take a gun to a school and kill people.
      These same conditions also apply in numerous other countries, such as NZ, where the end result is not the same.
      Of course the glaring common denominator in all these killings is the easy access to guns.
      Well, America has decided that’s the way they order their priorities. I certainly have no intention of telling them how to run their country.
      
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      May 22, 2018 5:28pm
  - Duxton
    
    David Grossman, a US psychologist and retired Marine Corps officer, has done some great work on this. He believes there is a direct correlation.
    
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    May 22, 2018 12:39pm
    - Batman
      
      “he believes” is nowhere near the same as ‘there is a direct link’
      
      This trope has been tried countless times before. There is no connection other than in the minds of people looking for easy reasons.
      
      What the US has to face up to is that there are too many guns within reach of people who have mental health issues.
      
      They need to make that link and ensure it is harder for those people to get access to guns. If that means the parents of depressed kids aren’t allowed to own firearms, so be it. The constitution is now simply used as a tool for the NRA and manufacturers to sell more guns.
      
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      May 22, 2018 1:23pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Not sure Depression is the reason.
        You might find this interesting
        https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/19/thresholds-of-violence
        
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        May 22, 2018 4:37pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    https://mises.org/wire/there-are-fewer-school-shootings-now-during-1990s
    ‘Mass school shootings are incredibly rare events. In research publishing later this year, Prof James Fox and doctoral student Emma Fridel found that on average, mass murders occur between 20 and 30 times per year, and about one of those incidents on average takes place at a school.
    
    Fridel and Fox used data collected by USA Today, the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Report, Congressional Research Service, Gun Violence Archive, Stanford Geospatial Center and Stanford Libraries, Mother Jones, Everytown for Gun Safety, and a NYPD report on active shooters.
    
    Their research also finds that shooting incidents involving students have been declining since the 1990s.
    
    Four times the number of children were killed in schools in the early 1990s than today, Fox said.
    
    “There is not an epidemic of school shootings,” he said, adding that more kids are killed each year from pool drownings or bicycle accidents. There are around 55 million school children in the United States, and on average over the past 25 years, about 10 students per year were killed by gunfire at school, according to Fox and Fridel’s research.’
    
    10 is still too many.
    
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    May 22, 2018 4:33pm
- Inandout
  
  Vans kill people..duh.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:32am
RW Capitalist

Did I interpret it correctly?
The housing and all other crisis’ are over? Well they must be.
Read on TV3
“Stats NZ claim that migrants are LEAVING New Zealand”
After all they are the cause of all this.
Wait a minute……..
8 months and they are driving people out of NZ again, oh well, must be a Labour govt. again.
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May 22, 2018 9:00am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  As I’ve said before on here, the ‘housing crisis’ will fix itself due to the CoL’s contracting economy and Twitford will take the credit.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:07am
  - Harkman
    
    CM, back in 2008-2009 Alan Bollard co-wrote a paper outlining the macro economic factors that created recessions in NZ. They were a shock to the farming sector (usually a drought or a price plunge), migration changes, real interest rate spikes, oil shocks and CA deficit spikes (linked to oil). National spent money on water storage schemes and kept spending growth slow negating two of these will also promoting oil and gas exploration. The good thing that could come from this is that migration changes and this Mycoplasma bovis crisis could cause a recession, which usually changes the government (1974/75, 1983, 1987-1991, 1998/99, 2008).
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:23am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Would agree, except for 1999
      “Back in 1999, the nine-month average GDP growth was a significantly higher 3.8%. And the growth in 1999 was a continuation of a trend that the economy had been experiencing for the past few years. GDP growth averaged 4.5% in both 1998 and 1997.”
      Clarke inherited a , what could be called, a BOOMING economy, considering the “Asia crisis”
      
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      May 22, 2018 9:55am
      - Harkman
        
        RWC there was a recession, but it started in Sept 1997 lasting about three quarters but you are correct the economy was far stronger in 1999. Actually the data shows far stronger growth in 1999 than what I have in my data from years back. Probably an ex post revision. What many don’t know is that from the late 1980s the RBNZ followed other central banks in setting interest rates with a Taylor-type rule but thanks to Winston in 1996/1997 they changed to targeting the MCI which meant interest rates went up when the dollar went down. During the Asian crisis capital fled to the USD thus pushing up interest rates. Immediately after Shipley sacked Winnie, the RBNZ returned to normal and growth surged again. Interestingly if you also look at the expenditure gdp series, there was actually a deep recession in late 2000- early 2001, which was really hard on the construction sector here. The other interesting thing in modern nz history was Ruth Richardson’s July 1 1991 budget didn’t cause a recession or an increase in unemployment, in fact it caused the opposite. I remember Brian Easton the night of (or night before) Bill English’s 2009 budget saying, what is a pure lie, that Richardson cut everything and the economy nose dived and unemployment surged.
        
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        May 22, 2018 11:45am
      - Jack5
        
        GDP is an insufficient growth measure in a country with a high migration rate, such as New Zealand.
        
        You could put the GDP growth rate through the roof by opening the borders, but the true measure of people’s wealth, GDP per capita, would dive.
        
        To illustrate the difference in the two measures consider India: 4th in the world in GDP, but 156th in the world in GDP per capita.
        
        NZ’s GDP per capita increased 0.1 per cent in the December 2017 quarter, following a 0.2 per cent increase in the September quarter. So it hasn’t been flash: running at less than 1 per cent growth a year.
        
        Commentators’ focus on GDP has turned politicians into migration junkies. The real estate, immigration, and education industries have fed their addiction. Politicians have followed a mirage and are in a trap.
        
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        May 22, 2018 1:51pm
      - Jack5
        
        Michael Reddell, at his Croaking Cassandra blog, has a very good article on population growth and economic growth in NZ.
        
        It includes this:
        
        “More people, at least in New Zealand, isn’t a path to higher productivity, and higher productivity is what aspirations for higher material living standards rely on.
        
        “More people is just a path to more activity to accommodate more people – skewing the economy inwards again, and undermining our prospects of ever getting back towards that upper tier of advanced economies.
        
        “On this score, Amy Adams (and her leader) appear quite as blind as Grant Robertson (and his). It is only two years until the next election campaign will be getting underway: the Adams interview doesn’t suggest any sign of a rethink of policy, or even a recognition that activity is no substitute for productivity. And the latter is sorely lacking in New Zealand.”
        
        https://croakingcassandra.com/
        
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        May 22, 2018 2:32pm
- Harkman
  
  Just like inequality and homelessness have apparently disappeared. (Airy) Fairy dust must be amazing because the numbers sleeping in Columbo street have increased since the election and probably inequality as well. Cindy’s magical powers must only work on what journalists are willing to report.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:09am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Make up, …what journalists are willing to make up.
    There, fixed it for ya.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:57am
- oldgolfer
  
  Another two years and eight months and there will be no bugger left, assuming they can afford the petrol to get to the airport.
  $2.30 now and rising.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:29am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    WAIT, WAIT….now I know what the new stadium is for………..it’s a waiting room for people who are leaving the country.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:58am
  - Paulus
    
    $2.30 is only for cheap 91 octane.
    Try having a modern economic small engined car (1400cc) and it will cost you 18 cents more for the privilege of 98 octane.
    Remember none of the garages ever show you the 98 octane price so you cannot go for the cheapest. You only know when you fill.
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:38pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Ah oldgolfer the Chinese dentist tooth hurty ($2.30) but seriously it has only just started to kick in and suspect the RBNZ is busy trying to shore up the NZ$ as it flits between $0.68 – 9 to the US$. More shocks are on the way as crude is leaping up to new highs faster than the Telly Tubby can scoff pies. But hey they are going to give the Commerce Commission a new set of dentures soon.
    
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    May 22, 2018 4:04pm
- kowtow
  
  There can’t have ever been a housing crisis , the left wanted us to take in even more Syrian and other refugees . Where the hell were they going to put them all if we had a housing crisis?
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:33am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Sorry, I’ve already postulated the use of the new stadium.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:59am
  - Jack5
    
    Kowtow says about refugees in his 9.33 post:” Where the hell were they going to put them all if we had a housing crisis?”
    
    Aren’t we told there is a housing crisis now?
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:58pm
Manolo

Trump on the offensive:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/388586-trump-shares-quote-ripping-brennan-this-guy-is-the-genesis-of-this

“’John Brennan is panicking. He has disgraced himself, he has disgraced the Country, he has disgraced the entire Intelligence Community. He is the one man who is largely responsible for the destruction of American’s faith in the Intelligence Community and in some people at the top of the FBI,” Trump wrote on Twitter.
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May 22, 2018 9:04am
- Harkman
  
  Manolo, you are the reason I no longer need a newspaper subscription.
  
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  May 22, 2018 9:11am
  - Manolo
    
    G’day Harkman, I hope I’m not upsetting you. Cheers. 😀
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:28am
    - Colville
      
      Manolo.
      Get a job with the Herald.
      It might actually be worth reading after your input 🙂
      
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      May 22, 2018 10:09am
      - Manolo
        
        The Huruld doesn’t pay well enough, mate.
        How is the wine-drinking going?
        
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        May 22, 2018 10:24am
      - calendar girl
        
        The Herald pays for the ‘news’ it publishes?
        
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        May 22, 2018 11:17am
      - Colville
        
        Manolo.
        Drinking is going very well but as with all things practice will make perfect.
        Recently moved house, had 74 cases to move.
        I am boycotting wine stores for 3 months 🙂
        
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        May 22, 2018 1:36pm
    - Harkman
      
      Far from it Manolo, most mornings I read your links and it is like “oh shit, did they plant a spy in the Trump campaign” etc. As I said, no need to buy the Press anymore, keep it up.
      
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      May 22, 2018 11:54am
- Inandout
  
  Washington is getting ready for the biggest expose in living memory, and Obama is knee deep in this intrigue. Watch for the MSM desperate distractions.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:42am
VicParking

Wellingtons proposal to set up rules for bars to stop sexual assaults. A few suggestions.
No women allowed to enter bar with red lipstick (Red lips shows women are ready for sexual intercourse).
No women with rouge. (Red cheaks signal sexual excitement)
No women with push up bras (large and firm breasts signal women is capable of supporting offspring)
No Women with short skirts (Display of legs and especially solid calves show women are ready for pregnancy)
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May 22, 2018 9:11am
- RW Capitalist
  
  No young men.
  Therefore
  No young women, at all.
  GREAT
  All us old farts can finally get a drink without having our shoes puked on.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:01am
- tf78
  
  Vic,I see you’ve been listening to Jordan Peterson.
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:59am
- Batman
  
  Bullshit mate.
  
  Creeps are creeps, and bars are simply responding to a market signal that patrons want a safe place to hang out.
  
  Stop blaming women for creepy dudes who make men look bad.
  
  Also RW, I think you’re frequenting the wrong bars if you’re having your shoes puked on. Find somewhere more mature! I have and I’m not even 30 yet ?
  
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  May 22, 2018 1:27pm
Jack5

Are the Taiwanese causing such mayhem, slavery, ocean pillaging in the Pacific tuna industry as the report on Stuff alleges?

If so, perhaps it would be one good thing to come out of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, and – it is to be hoped – a clean-up of this industry.

Slavery, torture, rape, mutiny, murder of captains – chaos, are the allegations.
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May 22, 2018 9:19am
Huevon

“The best party has women with a past and young men with a future”

On cue, outrage.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/104075833/the-best-party-has-women-with-a-past-and-young-men-with-a-future
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May 22, 2018 9:36am
- Rich Prick
  
  Yet the usual suspects hold no outrage over the Young Labour “party”.
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:47pm
Keeping Stock

Labour keeps banging on about crime, about record numbers in prison, and about the falling crime rate.

Do you think they’ll ever make the connection; that crime rates are falling BECAUSE there are record numbers of people in prison, and unable to commit further crimes?
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May 22, 2018 10:25am
- sooty
  
  If Labour introduce the catch and release, would some judge have the balls to haul the pollies concerned into their court to explain the crimes.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:31am
- kowtow
  
  I don’t accept that crime rates are falling .
  
  Violent crime is up , that is something the police /gubmint can’t hide as victims of such can’t be so easily brushed off ( even though they might try)
  
  Property crime is easier to massage , with ‘resolution’ through conferences etc.
  
  ‘She said police arrived shortly afterwards and interviewed several people, including her friend and her partner. However, she alleged the police did not ask her what happened, and the officer involved failed to follow up on her case later, as he had promised.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/police-make-apology-complainant
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:40am
- VicParking
  
  Very much the Elephant in the room Statistcs that very one ignores
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:43pm
- Piniwi
  
  But KS we might expect a little taste of eing remanded in custody has helped to stem the flow of lower aged and crimes. No doubt a little taste of that might linger longer than some weasel worded intervention and so much better retention than diversion.
  
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  May 22, 2018 4:11pm
Manolo

Miss Ardern was all at sea on this topic during an interview with Larry Williams on 2Zb this morning.

The accidental PM is shallowness personified.
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May 22, 2018 10:30am
- Poppa
  
  I listened to Larry right up until she came on & then switched stations. The sound of her reeling off sound bites padded with some absolutelies does my head in
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:53am
  - softail 1450
    
    poppa ,it nearly made me vomit this morning when the biggest news she could think of was “I’ve only got three weeks and four days to go ”
    omg lets hope the MMS dont thrash it for the next three weeks now that’s she has alerted them to the fact that she’s about to foal.
    
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    May 22, 2018 12:29pm
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    You should listen, know your enemy….
    
    “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
    
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:25pm
Dave Mann

On another note… news sites.

I used to look at Google News quite regularly. It was a good looking and informative aggregate of different news sources from all over the world and you could customise it with different sections – ie New Zealand News, Technology, Business, Male Sex Toys (just joking!) etc – as well as the UI and general ‘look’. It also ran pics in association with the articles.

A week or so ago Google asked someone with a serious brain disease to redesign the site and the result is boring non-cystomizable text-only irrelevant vomit which I just can’t stand and as a result I’ve deleted it from my favourites.

I’ve found Bing News is pretty good… but does anybody have any other good news aggregated site recommendations? Surely there’s better out there than Stuff or the Hoorald?
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May 22, 2018 10:37am
- Dave Mann
  
  Ahaa… I’ve found out what happened to Google News. It has been taken over by a fucking robot!
  
  Google pushes artificial intelligence for upgraded news app
  
  https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/tech/google-pushes-artificial-intelligence-upgraded-news-app-085101751.html?espv=1
  
  That explains it.
  
  I fear that AI will take over the world, and if this is the best it can do, then I hate to think of what the robots are going to do to our power grid our hospitals and our traffic systems etc 🙁
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:00am
  - dime
    
    yikes that is fucking ugly
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:53am
- Biscuit
  
  Dave, I’m a News ‘junkie’.
  
  On my faves I have most of the major world News sites.
  
  In New Zealand, I am fast running out of sites worth more than a cursory look … and, really, only then if there’s some major local story breaking.
  
  It’s all ‘click bait’ stuff these days…
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:06am
- noskire
  
  Twitter.
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:27am
Inandout

NZ’s poor, and probably Labour voters to boot, are paying more out of their benefit to fill up their imported vehicles. Quite ironic really that Labour are fleecing their own; their idiotic own.
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May 22, 2018 10:37am
- mandk
  
  Yup.
  
  Further proof that Prof Peterson was correct when he concluded that socialists don’t like the poor, they just hate the rich.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:50am
- Piniwi
  
  But Inandout at the rate the dollar is slumping and the crude price is ramping up the great Family Package will be all gone on fuel. Both in tank and tummy thanks to living a lineal country and while the freight content is never tasted it is certainly felt in the pocket.
  
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  May 22, 2018 4:18pm
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND: WHY IS GREATER CHRISTCHURCH THE FAVOURED PLACE TO BUY A HOUSE ? … TELL HOUSING MINISTER TWYFORD …

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/links-22-may-2018/#comment-3108700 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/links-22-may-2018/#comment-3108703

New Zealanders feel better about housing market (ASB Survey) | Fairfax – Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/104077127/new-zealanders-feel-better-about-housing-market

… extract …

… “Less upbeat house price expectations for Auckland and Canterbury are consistent with broadly flat observed house prices. Conversely, stronger house price expectations for the rest of the country are consistent with sizeable house price increases observed outside of the major urban areas,” Tuffley said.

Christchurch was the only area where most respondents – a net 6 per cent – said it was a good time to buy.

In most other regions pessimists outnumber optimists although the balance is becoming less negative over time. Twenty per cent of respondents nationwide said it was a bad time to buy. … read more via hyperlink above …
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UPDATE – New (IPSOS) survey reveals housing, poverty and healthcare most concern New Zealanders – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12047092

A recent survey on key issues concerning New Zealanders has shown that housing accessibility and affordability are at the forefront of people’s minds.

The first of the quarterly New Zealand Issues Monitor reports, run by global market research company Ipsos, interviewed 610 respondents over the age of 16.

It sought to track what New Zealanders were concerned about, who is worried about what and which political parties are seen to be best able to improve matters. … read more via hyperlink above …

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… Why has New Zealand Housing Minister Phil Twyford STILL failed to learn why the smaller local government units of Selwyn and Waimakariri work … while the bureaucratically bloated Christchurch City Council (like Auckland) is a disaster …

… ( The whacko Unitec / Kiwibuild fiasco only illustrates the Auckland Council planners are still effectively dictating housing policy … and Phil Twyford is doing as he is told ) …

… The two smaller adjoining local government units of Waimakariri and Selwyn ‘saved’ Greater Christchurch during the recent earthquake events …
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Lincoln (South Christchurch): From mill town to boom town … John McCrone … The Press
… h/t GF …

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103331085/lincoln-from-mill-town-to-boom-town

It was supposed to be a post-quake phenomenon, yet there is little sign of it slowing. Why are rural fringe towns like Lincoln still growing so fast? JOHN McCRONE reports.

The contrast is striking. In central Christchurch, Fletcher Living is taking forever to get going on its East Frame townhouse and apartment block development.

Government and council have agreed that denser inner city housing is vital to making a success of the earthquake rebuild. Yet despite inking a deal with Fletcher to build nearly 1000 homes back in 2015, the first 20 properties won’t be finished until late this year.

The buyers just don’t seem to be there for them. And so the East Frame development has been uphill all the way.

However, take the road half an hour out of town to Lincoln and the story is the opposite. This once sleepy village has exploded with subdivisions. Its residential footprint is now 10 times what it was 20 years ago.

READ MORE:
* Rolleston: Time to take it seriously
* Christchurch’s $600 million motorways
* Christchurch’s next problem: bringing residents back into the CBD
* Government ‘locked in’ to contract for delay-riddled east frame

… Latest research from Canada … h/t WC …

Sorry city dwellers, Canadians are happier living in small towns: report … Global News

https://globalnews.ca/news/4214984/canadians-happiness-rural-small-towns/

Canadians living in big cities may be disappointed to learn that their counterparts in small towns and rural areas are likely happier.

That’s according to researchers at McGill University in Montreal and the Vancouver School of Economics, who took a look at the happiness level of Canadians across Canada. … read more via hyperlink above …

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN THIS WORLD … THE SMALL AND THE BAD.
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May 22, 2018 10:48am
- mandk
  
  Hugh, just think about how much more time you would have in the course of a year, if you didn’t waste time putting this stuff up, sometimes multiple times, day after day.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:53am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Hugh could actually physically build a house instead of yabbering on about them!
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:21am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/links-22-may-2018/#comment-3108747 … and …
      https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/05/general_debate_21_may_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2214714
      
      NEW ZEALAND: Left behind: why boomtown New Zealand has a homelessness crisis … Reuters … h/t WC …
      
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-newzealand-economy-budget/left-behind-why-boomtown-new-zealand-has-a-homelessness-crisis-idUSKCN1IL0UG
      
      Jonathan Barrett, Charlotte Greenfield
      
      WELLINGTON (Reuters) – New Zealand’s dairy-fuelled economy has for several years been the envy of the rich world, yet despite the rise in prosperity tens of thousands of residents are sleeping in cars, shop entrances and alleyways. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      May 22, 2018 11:32am
- Biscuit
  
  654 words in that little rant, Hugh…
  
  So my Word Counter says.
  
  I wonder (with a deep sense of foreboding) just what Kiwiblog’s upper limit is in this regard…
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:59am
- Happychappy
  
  NZ’s self appointed expert on housing is also a bitter twisted moron that thinks people read the rubbish he posts.
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:07am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Done my ‘report’, only 5 more needed.
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:10am
BassilFawlty

So, not the first time I have asked this question, but will Maori now stop referring to themselves as the N word? “Kendrick Lamar … has a message for non African-American fans ahead of his upcoming New Zealand shows: whatever you do, don’t rap the n-word” https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12056057
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May 22, 2018 10:49am
- itstricky
  
  You probably need to know that use of the word in black communities is a deliberate intra-community call, to show pride/endurance/endearment for one another coming through the era of slavery.
  
  But, regardless of that, I don’t think you have to be a genius to realise that there is a difference between a white person saying it, and a black person saying it. Especially in Alabama.
  
  You can probably find anything you wanted to know, and more, here:
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N i g g e r
  
  If you remove the spaces that I’ve put in, for fear of triggering moderation.
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:13am
  - BassilFawlty
    
    I understand why the African American use the term, I fail to see why Maori insist on seeing themselves in the same way. Their experience is very different to that of the African American, and, rather than being enslaved by the colonialists of this country, they themselves were the slave makers of their own people.
    
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    May 22, 2018 12:12pm
    - Paulus
      
      In the USA the African American only represents about 14% of the population – same percentage as Maori in New Zealand.
      Only in the US they mostly are coloured and not so interbred.
      Is there a correlation here ?
      
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      May 22, 2018 1:43pm
    - Batman
      
      I think it’s mostly a transplantation from hip-hop and its influence on pop culture.
      
      I don’t think Maori insist on using it at all, but certainly plenty feel a similar way about it being a collective thing as tricky said above. Particularly when spelt with an ‘a’ on the end instead of ‘er’
      
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      May 22, 2018 1:51pm
- Harkman
  
  I have never heard a Kendrick Lamar song. It’s amazing who can be famous these days.
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:08pm
Jack5

How did the 30-year-old doctor facing a charge of murdering a 16-year-old Dunedin girl succeed in having his name suppressed for three months?

Doesn’t sound fair:

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crime/doctor-named-amber-rose-murder-accused
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May 22, 2018 11:08am
- kowtow
  
  Funny things happy down south…….
  
  Justice David Gendall said the judge’s grounds for the suppression of the man’s profession were unclear and he said there was “significant public interest” in the order being quashed.
  
  “Ordering the suppression of Mr Buis’ occupation because he is a police officer undermines the principle that all members of society are equal under the law,” Gendall said.
  
  “Police are not entitled to special treatment.”
  
  Read the whole article , Buis involved colleagues in his very strange campiagn against the victim.
  
  https://www.echonews.com.au/news/lifted-suppression-order-reveals-stalker-police-of/3201612/
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:33am
- AgentBallSack
  
  He was originally named when the girl was killed but sort after the fact suppression. For some reason the courts granted it.
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:40am
- VicParking
  
  What about the Russian in Auckland.
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:46pm
  - Jack5
    
    Tell us more, Vic.
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:59pm
kowtow

The ‘Germans” were once famously incorruptable in public office, I wonder if the diversity dividend has anything to do with it?

‘In April, Bremen’s prosecution service announced that a former official at BAMF’s Bremen branch was under investigation over allegations that she, along with four others, had taken bribes in exchange for granting asylum to some 1,200 refugees between 2013 and 2016, although the refugees did not meet the necessary criteria.’

http://www.dw.com/en/germanys-refugee-agency-faces-new-claims-in-asylum-scandal/a-43864811
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May 22, 2018 11:12am
Keeping Stock

Petrol prices have hit a new record high, and it seems the only way is up.

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/business/petrol-prices-hit-record-levels-on-the-road-to-2-30-a-litre/

As a business owner with a fleet of more than 20 cars, that’s a big worry for the bottom line, especially when the increased cost of fuel starts to get passed on by other businesses. I suspect we are in for a period of rising inflation, and I have grave doubts as to the ability of the current Finance Minister to manage things.
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May 22, 2018 11:16am
- Poppa
  
  Yep for sure. It is going up & up, the dollar is soft & oil is firming so it can only go one way.
  
  And then comes the new fuel tax……
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:25am
  - Inandout
    
    But Megan was going to sort this, just as Judith before her. We are an island nation surrounded by billions of barrels of oil, but we are scared of the Greens so won’t touch it. Just keep getting fleeced and watch the inflation jump, and wait for a future government with the guts to exploit these rich oil fields.
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:33am
    - starboard
      
      91 octane is around 30 baht a litre here in Phuket which equals $1.30 a litre nz.
      
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      May 22, 2018 3:25pm
AgentBallSack

Poor little Hugh.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Just kidding. Good riddance!
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May 22, 2018 11:38am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I wonder how many more times Hugh will spend ages putting his daily diatribe together only to have it disappear into the ether within 20 minutes, never to be seen again.
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:52am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    The last one was 654 words of crap including hyperlinks which is a huge scroll past especially if you are on mobile. Keep at it Kiwibloggers, you are doing God’s work!
    
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    May 22, 2018 12:01pm
Jack5

Sweden’s diversity dividends.

So prevalent has forced marriage and genital mutilation become in Sweden because of immigration, that the city of Gothenburg (population about 575,000) has set up an alert system.

Girls fearing forced marriage or genital mutilation and to be flown out of the country, presumably to a Muslim one, are advised to tuck a spoon into their underwear before going through airport security. Staff at the airport have been alerted to take action when this sets off an alarm.

http://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2147168/swedish-girls-fearing-forced-marriage-told-hide-spoon-underwear
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May 22, 2018 11:43am
- Harkman
  
  Remember when Swedish government officials denied Trump’s claim of social chaos? Another spot on observation.
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:10pm
- artemisia
  
  The spoon in the underwear has been in place in UK airports for several years. There is a backup process if needed, where young women can be securely removed from the airport into safekeeping.
  
  Apparently there is a spike in incidents at the beginning of the summer school holidays.
  
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  May 22, 2018 3:00pm
mandk

This has to be a joke, given that England is probably the 8th best team in the world, on current form.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/104102767/england-will-win-world-cup-declares-departing-defence-coach-paul-gustard
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May 22, 2018 11:43am
softail 1450

Meghan (pass the pies and pasta) woods is very concerned that the price of fuel is $2.30 in many places now.
fricking bullshit,this slob hasn’t had to pay any vehicle running costs for decades,she doesn’t give a toss how much it’s costing nz folk for gas ,its just a press release before the shit hits the fan when we are paying $2.50 which won’t be long with this shite devaluing our country with every stupid move they make.
I absolutely despise that little fat bastard peters for setting us up with this shit bunch of do gooder losers FFS.
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May 22, 2018 12:16pm
- Manolo
  
  No one could disagree with you!
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:30pm
- kowtow
  
  If Cabinet members are so concerned about the high cost of fuel , the answer is very simple , get your dirty tax grubbing hands off it.
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:39pm
- MCos
  
  If you take away the personal insults there’s not a lot a substance to this comment except that the US $ has risen against the Kiwi.
  No mention that the price of oil has also shot up.
  I understand prices are shooting up in Oz too. I wonder, do you blame it on an overweight minister of something or other over there too?
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:44pm
  - Duxton
    
    Sorry, I don’t live in Australia. I am quite comfortable blaming a fat, slovenly, out-of-her-depth Minister, and her thieving, incompetent colleagues for this one.
    
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    May 22, 2018 12:56pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      Duxton, there’s really nothing in what you say that any sensible person could disagree with.
      
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      May 22, 2018 1:43pm
      - Duxton
        
        Sorry davinci, I accidentally downticked you.
        
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        May 22, 2018 8:35pm
  - softail 1450
    
    mcos ,if you are addressing me piss off ,if i feel like commenting on a fat person i will ,jam your virtue signalling where the sun doesn’t shine .
    she is a grossly overweight woman and doesn’t really give a fuck about how much we pay for petrol,
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:09pm
    - MCos
      
      ‘Virtue signaling’
      When you hear a new expression you should make the effort to find out when to use it you bad tempered bugger!
      
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      May 22, 2018 6:04pm
- VicParking
  
  For every cent that petrol increases due to oil price increases and/or the Dollar devaluations the government should drop the Tax/Levie on petrol by the same amount. There you go Labour a true socialist government.
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:54pm
  - MCos
    
    Suit yourself.
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:17pm
- Inandout
  
  When you increase the cost of fuel it flows into every aspect of our daily lives. Manufacturers are now getting more cunning and instead of increasing packaged food prices, they reduce the size. In the long run we end up being stung.
  
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  May 22, 2018 5:11pm
starboard

Another violent feral native goes to the big house…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/104091066/man-who-bashed-his-girlfriend-to-death-over-texts-gets-life–but-with-a-chance-of-parole-after-20-years
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May 22, 2018 12:17pm
- kowtow
  
  And another wants out.
  
  ‘Claire Horton, from Tauranga, said Carlos Namana, who brutally beat and kicked her then partner to death had done his time and she hoped he wasn’t being kept in jail longer just because he had killed a police officer.’
  
  These animals should swing.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12055755
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:42pm
- Huevon
  
  Garrett needs to weigh in on this. The judge decided it would be “manifestly” unjust to sentence the animal to life without parole. That means the animal will be out in his mid-40s, giving him plenty more years to work in his violent career.
  
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  May 22, 2018 12:48pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    It’s disgraceful that Justice Paul Davidson considered LWOP “manifestly excessive”. Check this out (emphasis mine):
    
    A man who brutally attacked his partner before leaving her to die on their garage floor has avoided life imprisonment without parole despite being issued his third strike.
    
    Dylyn Mitchell Davis, 26, was sentenced at the Hamilton High Court today to a minimum of 20 years in jail for the murder of Aroha Kerehoma.
    
    Davis bashed and choked his 28-year-old girlfriend at their Dominion Rd home in Hamilton on February 3 before leaving her for more than 12 hours while he bragged about how she had the assault coming to an acquaintance.
    
    Justice Paul Davison ruled life sentence without parole was manifestly unjust taking into account a number of factors including comparable cases where the cruelty, callousnes and brutality was higher and his young age.
    
    Defence lawyer Thomas Sutcliffe said the murder was not the worst murder imaginable and an appropriate sentence would be 11 years. He argued life imprisonment without parole was manifestally injust.
    
    But Crown prosecutor QC Ross Douch said the offence was high level because of the callousness, cruelty and brutality involved in the attack. Davis repreatedly bashed Kerehoma on the head and face and then left her to die. He said Davis should be sentenced to life imprisonment without parole.
    
    On the afternoon before her death Davis and Kerehoma had been drinking and playing music in their garage.
    
    She began texting her ex-partner later in the evening saying she did not feel safe and that Davis had been hitting her.
    
    She sent her last text message at 11.58pm on February 3 before Davis took the phone from her and began his assault. He then changed his clothes and left her to die in the garage.
    
    He went to an associate’s house and told her how he had bashed Kerehoma and that she “had it coming”. He then told another associate he had killed her and that he had “choked the bitch”.
    
    He returned home more than 12 hours later and called an ambulance. When medics arrived, they said it appeared she had been dead for hours.
    
    A post-mortem examination found no weapons were used in the attack and that Kerehoma’s horrific head injuries, which caused her death were consistent with the use of fists. The shocking injuries included bashed nasal bone, fractures in the base of her skull and extensive bruises to her face.
    
    Davis initially denied the murder, but later pleaded guilty.
    
    Davis’ first strike was for wounding with intent to injure in 2014 and his second strike was for aggravated robbery in 2015.
    
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/man-who-murdered-girlfriend-jailed-for-20-years/
    
    The new Government may have signalled an intention to repeal Three Strikes, but until they do, the sentence is still available and should be used. One wonders what other charges lurk on Davis’ rap sheet, although it is clear he is a thug and a bully with no conscience whatsoever. He is EXACTLY the kind of offender David Garrett’s legislation was intended for.
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:51pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/world/south-pacific/104018732/inside-the-grim-prisons-of-vanuatu
  
  And by contrast, Vanuatu doesn’t have any of this 3 strikes nonsense. I note the article credits the prisons in Vanuatu to the British, but when when I was there in the late 90s I commented to one of the locals that Vila felt quite safe.
  I asked if there was much crime in Vanuatu and the response was: “No, Have you ever seen a French prison?”
  
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  May 22, 2018 11:48pm
rightoverlabour

Maybe the judge has a daughter he would this POS to date when he gets out… FFS

This is the kind of thing I support Capital Punishment over. No remorse..
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May 22, 2018 12:23pm
AgentBallSack

White? Want a tau moko? Stupid enough to get one?
You are shit out of luck, it’s racist for white people to appropriate this cultural symbol. But not racist to refuse you one based on your ethnicity.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104094136/life-coach-sally-anderson-faces-backlash-over-her-facial-moko-removes-it-from-branding
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May 22, 2018 12:33pm
- Manolo
  
  Lovely Stone Agers, aren’t they?
  
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  May 22, 2018 1:32pm
- Garbageman
  
  Im less offended by the moko than i am about the eyebrows & the cultural appropriation her wannabe cowboy hubby is showing
  
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  May 22, 2018 2:25pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Folks have been tattooing their faces since time immemorial. Seems many cultures/ethnic groups have indulged in the practice.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_Oatman
  Why shouldn’t Pakeha women tattoo their lips and chin area if they so desire?
  
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  May 22, 2018 7:00pm
softail 1450

agentballsack ,it’s also culturally inappropriate for other races to beat there kids to death ,thats why it is mainly maori kids that suffer this cultural disgrace,they care more about what happens to a fricking tattoo then about the kids .
and this is only a tiny fraction of maori who never stop whining,,,,,
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May 22, 2018 1:17pm
- 4077th
  
  It seems the unrest of the natives has been amplified since the COL stole power. This is just the tip of the iceberg, wait for Marama Davidson to start getting her claws in. Bet Winston dry wretches every time he has to talk to her.
  
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  May 22, 2018 1:47pm
  - oldgolfer
    
    There may be another reason.
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:56pm
4077th

Goof now under investigation by the OBM. Seems he is using the same playbook and Winston and Cindy when it comes to sharing their documentation. Goof banking on the same thing Pants Down Brown when it comes to answering for his misdeeds. Another fucking circus. I despair!
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May 22, 2018 1:35pm
- oldgolfer
  
  You are not alone. My sympathies, 4077th.
  
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  May 22, 2018 1:56pm
noskire

Question 8 in The House could be interesting today – MELISSA LEE to the Minister of Broadcasting: Does she stand by all her policy commitments?
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May 22, 2018 1:40pm
- 4077th
  
  I’d like to think Curren would be finally held to account but the time has passed. National should have gone for the jugular much earlier unless there is something new?
  
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  May 22, 2018 1:43pm
  - Paulus
    
    No keep the Curren sores festering for as long as you can.
    Still waiting for the sexual perp to be named despite having close family Labour hierarchy connections.
    It will come.
    
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    May 22, 2018 1:48pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Dead right Paulus. And I hope Judith Collins and Simon Bridges get stuck into Phil Twyford this afternoon as well.
      
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      May 22, 2018 1:53pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Collins made a mess of Twyford, but even better, teacher’s pet Hipkins accused Nikki Kaye of making things up and got a right bollocking from the headmaster.
        
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        May 22, 2018 3:08pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Noskire:
  
  My guess is that Melissa Lee will ask questions about something that was covered on Kiwiblog last week. She’ll probably quote Russell Brown: “not competent, prudent, fair or in keeping with Labour’s rhetoric”.
  
  But far be it from me to protect the Minister of ~~Astoria Cafe~~ Broadcasting from some good old-fashioned accountability!
  
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  May 22, 2018 1:53pm
  - noskire
    
    What a surprise that The Speaker docked National eight supplementary questions just as Melissa was about to start her attack.
    
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    May 22, 2018 6:15pm
- Poppa
  
  I do suspect Lee has some high powered weaponry which is yet to be fired.
  
  She is playing with Curren like a cat with a wounded mouse
  
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  May 22, 2018 2:07pm
Ross12

It looks like all the chickens that have come home to roost may have all arrived re the Mueller probe and surrounding issues.
Th opinion piece by an ex Clinton adviser in The Hill
Make up your own mind :
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/388549-stopping-robert-mueller-to-protect-us-all
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May 22, 2018 2:55pm
starboard

Dirty filthy import gets wet bus ticket treatment

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/104093722/man-sells-girlfriends-teen-daughter-up-to-five-times-a-day-as-prostitute-jailed
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May 22, 2018 3:02pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Where’s the deportation at the end of his sentence?
  
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  May 22, 2018 3:09pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    It says he will be deported at the end of his sentence on Stuff.
    
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    May 22, 2018 3:17pm
Manolo

Anything goes for Clapper, Obama minion:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/21/james-clapper-trump-doj-disturbing-assault/

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said Monday that the FBI having an informant seek to gather information on the Trump campaign is a “legitimate activity.”

He said it is “disturbing” that President Trump would call for an investigation into the Department of Justice.
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May 22, 2018 3:14pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  According to that, Watergate was a legitimate tool of information gathering then.
  
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  May 22, 2018 3:19pm
softail 1450

watching william sio in parliament giving a speech ,ffffuuuucccckkk. he’s living in dreamland,im a self employed motor engineer and i know id be a fish out of woter in that septic place ,sio is not qualified to be there either FFS.Fools running our country.
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May 22, 2018 3:15pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Softail:
  
  He’s a graduate from the Grant Robertson School of Unicorn Economics – where everyone gets a lolly!
  
  Which reminds me: how is Labour MP Michael Wood getting on with his 2011 pledge?
  
  Making a pledge to Botany voters to drive penis lollies out of the community
  
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  May 22, 2018 3:22pm
Fletch

An Australian professor who is a climate skeptic is fired for not towing the warming line about the Great Barrier Reef.

He writes –

I have published numerous scientific papers showing that much of the “science” claiming damage to the reef is either plain wrong or greatly exaggerated. As just one example, coral growth rates that have supposedly collapsed along the reef have, if anything, increased slightly.

Reefs that are supposedly smothered by dredging sediment actually contain great coral. And mass bleaching events along the reef that supposedly serve as evidence of permanent human-caused devastation are almost certainly completely natural and even cyclical.

These allegedly major catastrophic effects that recent science says were almost unknown before the 1980s are mainly the result of a simple fact: large-scale marine science did not get started on the reef until the 1970s.

By a decade later, studies of the reef had exploded, along with the number of marine biologists doing them. What all these scientists lacked, however, was historical perspective. There are almost no records of earlier eras to compare with current conditions. Thus, for many scientists studying reef problems, the results are unprecedented, and almost always seen as catastrophic and even world-threatening.

The only problem is that it isn’t so. The Great Barrier Reef is in fact in excellent condition. It certainly goes through periods of destruction where huge areas of coral are killed from hurricanes, starfish plagues and coral bleaching. However, it largely regrows within a decade to its former glory. Some parts of the southern reef, for example, have seen a tripling of coral in six years after they were devastated by a particularly severe cyclone.

Reefs have similarities to Australian forests, which require periodic bushfires. It looks terrible after the bushfire, but the forests always regrow. The ecosystem has evolved with these cycles of death and regrowth.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/20/climate-skeptic-professor-fired-for-telling-the-truth-about-the-great-barrier-reef/
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May 22, 2018 3:33pm
Poppa

Wrap up warm over the next few days folks. It is about to get a tad cold. Mainly wind chill but looks like a lot of snow down south also.

Hopefully next week it will settle down a bit
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May 22, 2018 3:45pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  That bloody Global Warming, eh…
  
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  May 22, 2018 4:30pm
- starboard
  
  29 deg here in Phuket trendsetters..sweatin like a native learning english.
  
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  May 22, 2018 4:32pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Any sign of Mikenmild or Scott Chris, Starboard?
    
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    May 22, 2018 6:24pm
    - nasska
      
      Do you think that Mike might be using his enforced absence from KB to up-date his professional skills Nostra?
      
      I’m certain that the Quarry Inn will flourish after he returns from the Phuket brothel managers’ refresher course. 🙂
      
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      May 22, 2018 6:50pm
  - Duxton
    
    Sweating like a Labour MP whose son went to this year’s Labour Youth Camp.
    
    There, fixed it for ya.
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:50pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The benefits of being a slovenly housewife:
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-44199844
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May 22, 2018 3:52pm
wreck1080

What happened to the “Twyford vs Seymour” post?

DPF seems to have deleted it, why?
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May 22, 2018 4:59pm
- simpleton1
  
  Seymour challenges Twyford to front up to Banff Avenue residents
  http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/5/311501
  
  Was it to be set for another time?
  Still a why? to the deletion.
  
  Was it a part of fitting a 100 dwellings into an area of a football field? That is in Mount Albert.
  
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  May 22, 2018 6:30pm
- simpleton1
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104102224/act-leader-david-seymour-warns-social-housing-tenants-may-have-mental-health-issues
  
  According to some, these issues are not allowed to be raised, so that Nimby’s can not have a say.
  
  Even if further discussion and debate, may also improve support and infrastructure.
  
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  May 22, 2018 6:43pm
Inandout

Netflix has teamed up with the Obamas, so watch for more ‘diverse’ shows. Netflix are apparently throwing money about like crazy.
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May 22, 2018 5:43pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

Tonight Moana & the Moahunters with Black Pearl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1WxaCcffX4
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May 22, 2018 5:48pm
- Manolo
  
  Music???
  
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  May 22, 2018 7:45pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Troll. 😉
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:04pm
Happychappy

Porirua is a cesspit now for criminals and now the Coalition of losers want to release prisoners to state housing in NZ so how is that going to stop crime in one of the state’s ghettos and large housing area of Cannons Creek. Card games for those that can front up with the amount needed to sit at the table most nights will do nothing to help crime in places like this and surely won’t help those being released into places like this all over NZ.
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May 22, 2018 6:21pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Angry Andy encouraging HNZ to allow prisoners to be bailed to state housing after a yoof in prison wanting to be bailed to live with aunty in her state house.
  Judith says that puts violent criminals ahead of non-criminals waiting on the list for state housing.
  
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  May 22, 2018 6:44pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Might have to commit a violent crime if you want a state house pronto.
    
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    May 22, 2018 7:31pm
  - Duxton
    
    Go Judith! I must say it is highly entertaining watching her deal to the likes of Twyford.
    
    I would love to see her unleashed on Princess Pretty Petal, the Kind, Benevolent and All-Knowing. It would be the meltdown from hell.
    
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    May 22, 2018 8:56pm
    - nasska
      
      Laying into the ‘Pregnant Peoples Princess’ right now would not be propitious.
      
      Wait for another fifteen months until the hag has dropped the anklebiter, petrol costs $3/litre & even the thicko socialists realise that they’ve been sold a cart load of shit.
      
      Then unleash Judith.
      
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      May 22, 2018 9:05pm
- nasska
  
  As with accepting more Muslim refugees & poor quality immigrants the CoL’s policy of releasing garbage back into the slums will impact on poorer Kiwis.
  
  Yet they are the ones who believe that National must be kept out of power because Labour cares about them.
  
  Every three years they confirm their gullibility.
  
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  May 22, 2018 6:44pm
nasska

Anyone else think that we may have taken this “anyone can grow up to be Prime Minister” thing a little too far?
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May 22, 2018 8:02pm
- Duxton
  
  In fairness, she hasn’t actually grown up yet.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:58pm
DigNap15

Build more prisons
Give longer sentences (and publisice them)
Then at the end of their sentence start rehabilitation and if they do it then release them, otherwise keep them in.
Also its time we started working on stopping young ones getting into crime in the first place.
Education, pride, work ethic, respect, speaking good English, a trade. No drugs. No booze. And for the girls – no dpb.
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May 22, 2018 8:29pm
- nasska
  
  …..”Education, pride, work ethic, respect, speaking good English, a trade. No drugs. No booze. And for the girls – no dpb.”…..
  
  You neglected to mention CMT, cold showers, corporal punishment, 6AM reveille, a belief in Baby Jesus & early potty training.
  
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  May 22, 2018 8:41pm
  - Duxton
    
    I wouldn’t support CMT, but would be more than comfortable with cold showers and a 0600 Reveille. I had both (and often an earlier Reveille) in Bougainville, Timor (twice) and Afghanistan. Don’t see why these shits deserve anything better.
    
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    May 22, 2018 9:06pm
    - starboard
      
      Take a look at Singapore. They don’t fuck around.
      We could easily be like them. Little and co need to wake up. Liarbor shambles, sooner they are gone the better. Handwringing, crim loving, assholes.
      
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      May 22, 2018 11:25pm
starboard

Poo skins causing trouble again..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/104127976/three-men-allegedly-tried-to-grab-16yearold-girl-near-manurewa-park
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May 22, 2018 10:16pm
- Inandout
  
  What a Godforsaken area of Auckland that is.
  
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  May 22, 2018 10:54pm
  - starboard
    
    Yup..feral city. Find them and ship ’em off to China.
    Filthy cunts, could have been your daughter or mine.
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:13pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I used to travel via Mahia Road and Roscommon Road to the airport at Mangere. I always thought that area around where they tried to grab that girl was the pits. I often wondered why a social welfare beneficiary would want to live in that awful place when there are so many neat places, far away from Auckland.
    
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    May 22, 2018 11:17pm
softail 1450

Any ideas who the jew hater in the greens might be?
my guess is Dr M D,,,,,,
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May 23, 2018 6:36am
Manolo

They are determined to do it:
https://news.grabien.com/story-al-green-democrats-will-impeach-trump-if-we-retake-house

If Americans give the House of Representatives back to the Democratic Party this November, one of first things that will happen is the impeachment of President Trump, Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) said Tuesday.
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May 23, 2018 7:37am
Hugh Pavletich

CONTAINER INDUSTRY COPES EASILY WITH DEMAND GROWTH … WHILE NEW HOME BUILDING DOESNT … WHY ?

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/links-23-may-2018/#comment-3109390 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/links-23-may-2018/#comment-3109392 … and …

… CONTAINER INDUSTRY COPES EASILY WITH DEMAND GROWTH (CONSUMERS ARE THE WINNERS) … WHILE NEW HOME BUILDING DOESN’T (CONSUMERS ARE THE LOSERS) … WHY ? …

… BECAUSE THE CONTAINER INDUSTRY IS NOT RUN BY DIMWITTED POLITICIANS AND URBAN PLANNERS …

Maersk to Cut Services as It Battles Shipping Glut – WSJ
h/t todays Interest Co NZ 90@9

https://www.wsj.com/articles/maersk-to-cut-services-as-it-battles-shipping-glut-1526564766

The container operator’s first-quarter loss widened amid falling freight rates and rising trade risks and fuel costs … read more via hyperlink above …

Container Shipping – Statistics & Facts | Statista

https://www.statista.com/topics/1367/container-shipping/

Google search ‘Container Trade Growth’

https://www.google.co.nz/search?source=hp&ei=EnQEW6vfAeLc0gKm7IuoDQ&q=container+trade+growth&oq=container+trade+growth&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0j0i22i30k1l4.19764.28245.0.31998.22.21.0.1.1.0.351.4368.2-14j2.16.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..5.17.4371…0i131k1.0.j64rsrkQql8

… watch these short videos …

This Man Is the Father of Modern American Suburbia | Smithsonian

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/videos/category/smithsonian-channel/this-man-is-the-father-of-modern-american-su/

… then … soon after … Malcom McLean created the modern container industry … dropping shipping costs dramatically … for example with what cost $6 with break – bulk cargo handling to just 16 cents with containerization ! …

The Power of Outsiders – Video – NYTimes.com

https://www.nytimes.com/video/business/100000004807604/the-power-of-outsiders.html

… note here the extremely small costs of shipping selected items around the planet … so that transportation costs are pretty much irrelevant today in the whole scheme of things (thank you Malcom McLean ! ) …

Malcom McLean and Containerisation | Maersk Line – YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq8UU9kafJ0

… so that today …

1. Standard detached housing should not cost any more than 3.0 times annual household incomes of specific metros ( refer Annual Demographia Surveys ; recent Glaeser & Gyourko paper ; Recent Reserve Bank of Australia paper ).

2. New fringe starter house and land packages should cost around 2.5 times … at development ratios of 20% serviced lot and the balance construction ( Definition of an affordable housing market http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning ).

3. Apartment / townhouses should be around 2.0 times ( to illustrate refer Houston Association of Realtors Monthly Report ).

4. Fringe manufactured house (prefab) and land packages should be around 1.5 times ( refer Leaky Homes And An Architect’s Musing’s | Scoop News March 2010 published Interest Co NZ as ‘Houston: We have a housing affordability problem’

The housing affordability problem is a nonsense issue.

Only dim-witted politicians and urban planners could
be confused by it.
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/links-23-may-2018/#comment-3109819 … and …
  
  NEW ZEALAND HOUSING: A BANKER (OUT OF FEAR) SEES SOME DAYLIGHT … JUST SOME …
  
  HAVE THE BANKERS EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT UNNECESSARY MORTGAGE SLAVERY AT ANY STAGE ? …
  
  Westpac’s (New Zealand CEO) David McLean says flat house prices for 20-30 years would gradually correct housing unaffordability without igniting the ‘economic carnage’ a big price drop would cause | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93884/westpac-nz-ceo-david-mclean-comments-distortionary-economic-effects-heated-housing
  
  In an ideal world, the CEO of Westpac New Zealand would like to see house price growth remain on hold for the next few decades.
  
  Speaking at a Trans-Tasman Business Circle breakfast in Auckland on Wednesday, David McLean said: “What we think New Zealand needs is a long period – maybe 20 or 30 years – of zero house price inflation, combined with steady growth in other parts of the economy.”
  
  He said this would “gradually correct” housing unaffordability without igniting the economic carnage that a big price downturn would cause. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  Bank of mum and dad could be NZ’s sixth largest first-home mortgage lender | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/money/103712810/bank-of-mum-and-dad-could-be-nzs-sixth-largest-firsthome-mortgage-lender
  
  A generation of mortgage slaves: Auckland’s house prices leave home owners mired in debt | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/103205338/a-generation-of-mortgage-slaves-aucklands-house-prices-leave-home-owners-crippled-in-debt
  
  Housing through the decades, what is affordable? | Newshub
  
  http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2016/08/housing-through-the-decades-what-is-affordable.html
  
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