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holysheet

A Waikato woman driving along at speed passed over a bridge only to find a cop with a radar gun on the other side lying in wait. The cop pulled her over, walked up to the car, with that classic patronizing smirk & asked,
‘What’s your hurry?’
She replied, ‘I’m late for work.’
‘Oh yeah,’ said the cop, ‘what do you do?’
‘I’m a Rectum Stretcher,’ she responded.
The cop stammered, ‘A what?………… ‘
A Rectum Stretcher!’
‘And just what does a rectum stretcher do?’
‘Well,’ she said, ‘I start by inserting one finger in the rectum, then work my way up to two fingers, then three, then four, then with my whole hand in I work from side to side until I can get both hands in, and then I slowly but surely stretch it, until it’s about 6 feet’
‘And just what the hell do you do with a 6 foot arsehole?’ he asked
‘You give him a radar gun & park him behind a bridge..
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May 21, 2018 8:00am
- Tricati
  
  Great start to my day – still having a laugh
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:03am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Heard a much ruder version concerning Lady parts.
  But to add to the joy of Monday.
  and to beat up on the cops, unnecessarily & gratuitously.
  What’s the only animal with a C**T in the middle of it’s back?
  A police horse.
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:14am
  - Nermal
    
    The youth of today lack respect for the police. I wonder where they get that from
    
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    May 21, 2018 11:36am
    - holysheet
      
      Traffic cops are not real police. They are the pits with their holier than thou smugness.
      
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      May 21, 2018 2:43pm
Wangas Feral

Woke up this morning and our dog was dead on the kitchen floor. Not a good start to the week. He was a good dog.
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May 21, 2018 8:03am
- waikatogirl
  
  Condolences Wangas. That’s a bastard of a start to the day.
  I still miss my dog.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:06am
  - kevn
    
    @Wang and WG… Same, I miss our dog as well. She died 8 years ago now and I still miss her. Haven’t had the courage to find another. She was the best…
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:10am
    - waikatogirl
      
      13 years since our dog died kevn, and she was the best dog… ?
      
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      May 21, 2018 8:13am
      - CHFR1
        
        Beg to differ with both of you the best dog dies nearly 2 years ago and I owned him. Still is him every day.
        
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        May 21, 2018 8:28am
      - Wangas Feral
        
        Yep – every dog is the best dog for someone.
        
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        May 21, 2018 8:29am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        For sure. One of the reasons I was never that keen for the children to get any pets. We had cat’s, dog’s, rabbits, guinea pig’s, bird’s in fact it seem just about everything but a giraffe.
        
        The common theme, it was always me who put them in the ground; I don’t have any pets now, I know how it ends and it is just too hard.
        
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        May 21, 2018 9:03am
    - Gravelroad
      
      We had a wonderful family dog whose owner was officially our daughter.
      She got herself another one Kevn.
      New dog is a bit different to the first one, but just as good in her own way and daughter loves her.
      Will never forget old one though and we often have a laugh about the things she did and the joy she brought to our family.
      
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      May 21, 2018 9:13am
      - GazzaW
        
        It’s been a two way street for the pets of all the KBers who have posted. Every one of those dogs has been loved, cared for and had a wonderful life. Our family has had dogs and cats for as long as I can remember and there’s nothing worse than that final one way visit to the vet but it’s a small price to pay for the undemanding love that our animals share with us.
        
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        May 21, 2018 9:59am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Undemanding love ? You haven’t met my Abyssinian !
        
        Talkative little sod, which is rather unlike an Abby, but he demands attention alright.
        
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        May 21, 2018 2:35pm
      - holysheet
        
        Ed we are talking about dogs here, not your black slave.
        
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        May 21, 2018 2:44pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        Holysheet, darkish brown with ticked fur. Now 16 months old and still an irresponsible “teenager” in cat terms. Unfortunately spoilt rotten and indulged by his owners (sorry, staff – cats don’t have owners, they have staff), but fully part of the family.
        
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        May 22, 2018 11:30am
    - Nermal
      
      Go and visit your local SPCA. Just have a browse and see what’s there. Lots of good dogs there desperately needing good owners like you.
      
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      May 21, 2018 11:38am
  - RRM
    
    Ask the beasts and they will show you the beauty of the Earth.
    
    Francis of Assisi
    
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    May 21, 2018 12:57pm
- oldgolfer
  
  That’s tough. Recall an old man I met who was in tears.
  I asked what was wrong and he said he had just had to put his dog down.
  It was, he said, the hardest day’s work ever.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:20am
  - Wangas Feral
    
    It can be amazing how much emotion comes out when a stupid dog dies. I guess it is because they give so much and ask so little in return.
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:32am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      That is the difference between a cat and a dog; the cat just does not seem to care whereas the dog loves you just because, the ball throwing is a real bonus.
      
      How do people have these animals that end up on the tv as emasculated mistreated pets?
      
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      May 21, 2018 9:07am
      - Nermal
        
        You wouldn’t say that if you saw my cats. The love is mutual, cats are just more subtle
        
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        May 21, 2018 11:41am
    - lofty
      
      Yes, they give unconditional loyalty if you treat and love them well.
      I have been brokenhearted over 3 dogs now, and I dare say when a our latest wee one passes I will be again.
      They love you their whole lives, without ever knowing your name.
      
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      May 21, 2018 1:47pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    YUP, you think you’re tough, you think you’re ready.
    BUT no……
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:23am
  - mudrunner
    
    Yes, I have been one of those old men.
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:43am
  - Paulus
    
    oldgolfer
    Me too three occasions over my life.
    Each one Unconditional love.
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:49am
- RF
  
  When our dear dog aged 15 had to be put down a friend sent me a poem about the Rainbow Bridge.
  
  It’s quite moving and worth looking up on google.
  
  I feel your pain……
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:44am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Condolences WF.
  
  Why in hell though would some sad bastard down-tick a comment like that? There are some sickos around here.
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:00am
  - GazzaW
    
    I see the downticker has picked you out for treatment as well KS. Very sick indeed. I’m not teck savvy enough so can someone advise whether ticks are traceable back to the ‘ticker’ or not in which case serial nutbars could be blocked.
    
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    May 21, 2018 11:32am
  - Wangas Feral
    
    Not a dog person I suspect.
    
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    May 21, 2018 6:10pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Condolences.
  ONly had 2 dogs in my whole life.
  German Shepard cross…lived to be 16
  Pure Alaskan Malamute… lived to be 13
  Hopefully they would think we did a good job with them. Others loved them to bits too and would stop us to take photos and let their kids hug them.
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:18am
- Tricati
  
  I hope this helps:
  A Pets Peace
  I have left you now but please don’t be sad
  You gave me all the love you had.
  You did so much for me in my time here
  and I’ll always hold those precious times near.
  I know someday you’ll find love again and into your life will come a new friend.
  Your heart will hell, though you’ll never forget memories like the first time we met.
  Memories are wonderful, so keep them close and remember all the good times the most.
  Up in heaven for animals is where I’ll be and someday in the future, each other we will see.
  I’m at PEACE now, so please don’t be sad
  you gave me all the love you had.
  By: Tracy M. Johnson
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:12am
  - GoVege
    
    This is why I became a vege.
    I was cuddling our beloved puss when I was 11 and it occurred to me…could it be possible that other animals. ..like sheep and cows and pigs ..have their own unique personality just like him?
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:39am
    - kowtow
      
      What about the mice and birds ole Puddy Tat consigned to their Maker.
      
      Eat and be eaten , that’s nature’s way.
      
      We’re all part of it.
      
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      May 21, 2018 10:58am
      - GoVege
        
        Nature’s too damn cruel, kowtow.
        In any case, my cats wear bells!
        
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        May 21, 2018 11:11am
    - softail 1450
      
      govege,i like meat but absolutely agree with you ,i have friends in tepuke who have had all manner of farm animals for pets and they all have different characters but are just as good of a pet as a cat or dog .
      i could never get used to 150lbs of bacon walking into the lounge like a pet dog but thats what happens ,well house trained but sometimes a bit grubby, takes all kinds to make the world.
      
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      May 21, 2018 12:53pm
- GoVege
  
  Very sad, Wangas.
  But even worse is having to take them to the vet to be euthanized and watch the light die in their eyes.
  After our lovely vet gave our cat the needle, I was so traumatized I asked him “can I have mine now”?
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:17am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Bronte by Gotye if you want a melancholy song about losing a pet…
  https://youtu.be/le34ygtODfI
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:31am
- Piniwi
  
  @Wangas Feral condolences it casts a cloud unlike any other with such events and never easy to see then go.
  
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  May 21, 2018 3:29pm
waikatogirl

Cindy will be in 2 places at once today. She is appearing “down on the farm”, while at the same time she will also ‘appear ‘at the Auckland Tech Sector event as a hologram. Those attending the 9 day Tech Sector event will see Cindy walking up and down the stage at the venue while giving her speech to the sector. 10,000 tech overseas workers enter NZ each year to take up work here.
Does the idea of Hologram Cindy creep anyone else out!! ?
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May 21, 2018 8:04am
- holysheet
  
  Does this mean she will not be telling any more lies? If they can give us a hologram cindy, can they give us one that can filter out the lying. Probably not, what else would she have to say…….
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:07am
  - Fletch
    
    Only virtual lies…
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:08am
    - Wangas Feral
      
      Well virtually everything she says is bullshit.
      
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      May 21, 2018 8:19am
    - hullkiwi
      
      So, virtually everything she says will be a lie. So, nothing different to normal.
      
      The concept of a virtual Cindy is scary, brings to mind Orwell’s 1984 & Big Brother is always watching.
      
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      May 21, 2018 8:21am
      - RF
        
        You just never know – the hologram could be more attractive. Take away the skinny gaunt look with protruding teeth and cankles.
        
        Funny thing she used to be reasonably attractive when she was young with lighter coloured hair.
        
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        May 21, 2018 9:22am
      - Paulus
        
        Being in two places at once she can tell separate different lies in each.
        
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        May 21, 2018 1:30pm
- kowtow
  
  “10,000 tech overseas workers enter NZ each year to take up work here.’
  
  If they hologramed their lessons from India or where ever they come from we wouldn’t have a housing crisis.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:11am
  - cmm
    
    That 10,000 includes all the blokes coming in from India to do the fibre roll out etc.
    
    I can’t see that showing people Cindy is going to help bring the best and the brightest into NZ.
    
    I came to NZ to join the tech sector 25 years ago. Choice was USA or NZ and I chose NZ even though I had to pay my own way and various companies in USA offered to pay for relocation. But if they’d shown me Cindy, holo or not, I think it would have been USA.
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:21am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      You mean……….Helen Clarke never freaked you out? 😉
      
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      May 21, 2018 9:50am
      - cmm
        
        Helen was safely in opposition 25 years ago.
        
        Still, while I disagree with Helen’s politics and her micro-management, I still acknowledge that she was a competent operator.
        
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        May 21, 2018 12:51pm
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Helen Clarke
        A classic example of why a good politician/political operator, should NEVER be allowed to run a country.
        Incompetent, lazy, lacking any practical knowledge (except how to duck for cover and blame someone else)…….
        
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        May 21, 2018 3:59pm
- flipper
  
  Yeaaah …… sort of.
  That Star Wars holographic technology stuff poses the threat of numerous anorexic nettle eaters. But heck, JUST ONE is one too many !!!!!!!
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:13am
  - Piniwi
    
    But flipper got to love the worried expression today in the Waikato as she to have finally gathered that their inactivity and under-rating M.bovis is going to be more expensive that they expected. Now who would ever have expected that?
    
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    May 21, 2018 3:44pm
- cmm
  
  The Christchurch venue is just 1.5km from where I live, but I can’t see myself going to this. I’ve got more important things to be getting on with.
  
  Besides if there was going to be holoCindy I’d need a barfbag.
  
  Why the fuck would they want her “inspirational message”? Some stupid chip shop girl telling everyone capitalism has failed when surrounded by technologies created, for the most part, by capitalism.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:14am
  - holysheet
    
    Can you get a hologrammed barfbag and attend that way?
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:20am
  - VicParking
    
    And invented in Israel
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:38am
    - Paulus
      
      See New Zealand has been heavily and publically condemned in the UN for bigmouth’s pro Hamas/Palestine views.
      Never knows when to STFU.
      Our credibility in now ratshit internationally – and within 6 months only.
      It took years to get sound credibility.
      
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      May 21, 2018 1:34pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Sure Paulus a very bad look for the people but it came with the same criticism of the UN for attempting to shield Hamas who were the instigators. Using the people to provide a human shield for them to try and breach the border. Conversely good for the Commie Chicks UN aspirations as she aliens herself with the wrong people in the right place.
        
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        May 21, 2018 3:50pm
- softail 1450
  
  W G ,lets start a givealittle page and see if we can raise enough to have her stay as a hologram,that way we will have less damage done to our economy and most of our sanities,,,,,
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:35am
- oldgolfer
  
  Not sure we need to see Cindy in two places, but that’s no reflection on her.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:36am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    vampire reference?
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:22am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Does the idea of Hologram Cindy creep anyone else out!! ?
  
  Not as much as the thought of a hologrammed Helen Clark would…
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:04am
  - lele
    
    Reminds me of Palpatine holgram from star wars
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:29am
- RW Capitalist
  
  So she’s “down on the farm”…2 things spring to mind
  1. Is she personally choosing which cows she will kill unnecessarily?
  2. I always knew, Ches and Dale were smarter than her.
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:21am
- alloytoo
  
  Not really, we already know she’s not perfectly transparent or clear for that matter.
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:43am
- godruelf
  
  Which one has more substance?
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:57am
- Dafixeruppa
  
  So unless the tech has improved, holograms are quite transparent… I think this is what she meant by being completely transparent…
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:11am
- Piniwi
  
  @waikatgirl much prefer the look alike on WO GD today to a hollow gram of a hollow person.
  
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  May 21, 2018 3:37pm
calendar girl

A ‘Stuff’ opinion writer willing to describe herself as “left leaning”: https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/103938305/Alice-Snedden-Stupid-little-girl-How-desperate-are-you
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May 21, 2018 8:04am
- waikatogirl
  
  Alice who?
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:08am
  - dubya
    
    Nothing little about Alice, by the looks. Borderline on the girl, too.
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:19am
    - holysheet
      
      was this her mother?
      At a wedding in Glasgow I whispered to a guy next to me, “Isn’t the bride a right ugly dog” “Do you mind. That’s my daughter you’re talking about” “I’m sorry, I didn’t know you were her father”… “I’m not . . . I’m her mother.
      
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      May 21, 2018 8:33am
  - backster
    
    in wonderland from the nature of her writing.
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:37am
- MrTips
  
  Is it Alice or Alex?
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:23am
- dime
  
  are you telling me that unattractive tub of shit is a lefty feminst?
  
  Dime is shocked.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:59am
  - suzieq
    
    Come on chaps. Try not to prove Alice’s point.
    
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    May 21, 2018 2:04pm
Chris R

I see Ms Ardern is going to appear at a Tech conference as a hologram. This will be a change to all of her other appearances as a hollow clown!
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May 21, 2018 8:04am
- Fletch
  
  In her own virtual reality, the country is doing well….
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:09am
  - doggone7
    
    While in this particular part of the virtual reality world commenters can turn the real world into the Worst of Times, Armageddon.
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:18am
- Rich Prick
  
  Buffering her gob will take at least half an hour.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:58am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  So she is there, but not actually there. Bit like being Prime Minister really. Any gifted hackers out there who would like to change the hologram to Winston halfway through?
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:26am
  - Paulus
    
    Shush
    Our incoming Prime Minister Peters is on a jonty in Japan currently.
    
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    May 21, 2018 1:36pm
- G152
  
  And, unlike her alter ego that one can be turned off
  
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  May 21, 2018 12:51pm
cmm

Herald really struggling this morning.

Big red scrolling banner says:

“What happened to Spring? Whole country copy wintery blast”.
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May 21, 2018 8:08am
- Gravelroad
  
  Are there a lot of leftie UK people working at the Herald?
  Too dumb to realise seasons are different here?
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:20am
  - cmm
    
    Maybe it’s not just Labour that import foreign slaves.
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:34am
  - Fletch
    
    If it’s not underlined in red by the spellcheck software, it’s OK to go live…lol
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:39am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Time is what happened to Spring (September to November).
  
  However, some of it has lingered on here in Gisborne…. Sun shining into the living room… T-shirt weather again.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:34am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Morning Maggy. Good day for gardening day here too. Not even a hint of a frost yet in the Waikato this autumn. ?
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:40am
  - pdm
    
    Bloody wet in Gisborne last weekend (12th) Maggy we were there visiting oldfriends and workmates from when we lived in Albert Street, Te Hapara in the late 70’s early 80’s.
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:09am
  - Paulus
    
    Has been pretty good in Tauranga for a while following a smashing Summer.
    
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    May 21, 2018 1:37pm
- softail 1450
  
  c m m, tv3 were just as bad highlighting the
  “Funrerals” of the folk killed in texas over the weekend,didnt even bother to correct it just left it as it was. imbeciles.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:41am
- VicParking
  
  Thats what you get when you cut and paste from the UK at night because you dont have any real Journalists working.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:41am
- hullkiwi
  
  Given the volume of crap the Horrid regurgitates from the Daily Mail Online, it is no surprise the Horrid’s headlines are no different to what you would read if you read one of the ghastly UK tabloids in London. Because they don’t employ journalists to investigate & report the news the employ sub-editors to write fiction or (to coin a phrase from a current TV ad) write weather waffle.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:44am
- labrator
  
  They buy their news off of the DailyMail (you get it 2-3 days later)… sometimes they splash out and buy an article from someone else. Nothing but the best for Herald readers! The paywall is coming, for real journalism you’ll need to pay, otherwise you’ll get the DailyMail delayed edition.
  
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  May 21, 2018 12:33pm
  - calendar girl
    
    How long ago was it, labrator, when we last got ‘real news’ from the Herald?
    
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    May 21, 2018 3:18pm
artemisia

Official Kiwibuild buyer criteria are still not available but will need to be published very soon. As August is galloping up fast and would-be first home buyers need to understand the criteria and get their finances organised. August is the date the first McLennan development places are to be ready, and pricing has already been published.

Unless Mr Twyford is flying a few kites some criteria are becoming a wee bit clearer. No income cap, which is interesting as it indicates the places are not that ‘affordable’. Co-ownership with a third party is being looked at, with homeowners able to buy the third party out when they can afford to.

Prospective buyers should look very carefully at that option if it is offered, and in particular at the cost of compounding interest and forfeiting a proportion of capital gain. What looks like a good deal on day 1 is not going to look too flash in year 7 or 8 when the amount to buy out has doubled or more. There will be very big trouble at mill.

If I were a potential buyer I would definitely want to know if plans for a particular development include social housing, and if so how much. That would be so I know to run a mile.

Enquiring minds need details asap.
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May 21, 2018 8:08am
- holysheet
  
  Why would anyone go into a sharing arrangement. When liabour introduce a capital gains tax, there wont be much left to upsell and buy your second home. And if you believe the family home will be exempt, dream on suckers
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:13am
  - artemisia
    
    Why enter a sharing arrangement? Talking about first home buyers here, including those blinded by pixie sprinkles. They tend to be at the inexperienced end of the spectrum, and may not get advice from – or listen to – older and wiser heads.
    
    Tears before bedtime, I confidently predict.
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:32am
    - holysheet
      
      You mean like ruby lips?
      How many home buyers can afford 650,00 as their first home?
      
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      May 21, 2018 8:35am
      - Paulus
        
        When we bought our first home – many years ago in Wellington having saved a good $10,000 we could only get $15,000 first mortgage – we had to go to a Lawyer to get more.
        Their second mortgage was base upon only our income – mine and half my wife’s – that was the overall criteria. Before that inn the UK that was the only criteria – the ability to servise the loan.
        The sooner the Banks take that income is paramount the sooner the market will begin settle for first buyers – in time. The Banks have not yet taken any responsibility for their shameful lending policy.
        Tough on young first home buyers like our family.
        
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        May 21, 2018 1:48pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      So a typical KiwiBuild punter will need to be earning somewhere north of $120k and presumably have a $130k deposit laying about. On a sharing basis that person will likely spend 25 years paying off his/her home loan and another 25 years buying out the third party (in reality the Government – who else would want to expose themselves to the Auckland bubble that is likely to burst).
      
      So your entry level home becomes your retirement home and with all that social housing peppered about there’s 50 years of being mugged and burgled by your affordable neighbours to look forward to. Sound good to anyone?
      
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      May 21, 2018 9:09am
      - artemisia
        
        Using very conservative numbers:
        Price $600k
        Third party owns 10% – initially $60k
        Interest rate 5%
        After 10 years balance is $99k (plus 10% of capital gain)
        After 15 years $127k (plus CG)
        
        Above using the Heartland Bank reverse mortgage calculator. Note no risk built in.
        
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        May 21, 2018 9:26am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Should the house be sold, after the new bright line test and since the family home is not included (HA HA).
        The “home owner” of the “family home” will NOT be subject to CGT, BUT since the Govt. is NOT the occupier of this “family home” will they be paying themselves (us) CGT??
        Anyone else see the ridiculous nature of the situation?
        
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        May 21, 2018 11:01am
      - double d
        
        Rich Prick- yup see it and are absolutely amazed at this governments total lack of readiness to govern.
        They are seriously …… shit. ( couldn’t think of a better word)
        
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        May 21, 2018 5:35pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    I don’t see that much of a problem for someone going into equity sharing. If the house appreciates, you get some gain (probably more than buying a house you could afford out in the regions). If prices stay flat or soften someone else is sharing the pain and you still have a cheap house to live in.
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:39am
    - Paulus
      
      The US tried that – called Sub Prime Mortgages the start of the Global Financial Crises and the destruction of the two largest mortgage lenders – Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae.
      They were made to lend to people who had no way to pay the Mortgages – by special legislation.
      Thanks to the pressure from the Senator for Illinois assisted by the President.
      Senator Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.
      Look at the ghettos still as a result in South West Chicago.
      
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      May 21, 2018 1:56pm
    - double d
      
      It is always about the downside
      
      What happens if the property devalues????
      
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      May 21, 2018 5:38pm
- VicParking
  
  Another round of handouts to the middle class which Labour hope to steal off National.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:43am
- Maxx
  
  Co-ownership will be a boon to existing homeowners if they go ahead with it. By its own nature, it is inflationary and will continue to push up prices.
  
  But then I am sure Twyford consulted experts on the matter before he opened his mouth…
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:38am
- KevOB
  
  One cannot magic away debt by calling it another name or repackaging. Interest is always running.
  
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  May 21, 2018 2:47pm
lilman

Love POTUS he just keeps winning.Much go the disgust of many of my friends.
Dinner last night was a 2 hour turkey shoot as I dismantled their lies and factual inconsistencies.
They were apoplectic and I laughed long and hard.
Even they said they were wrong but still thought he was an idiot.
Lefties the things you see when you don’t have a gun.
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May 21, 2018 8:09am
- kevn
  
  @lilman… When ‘they’ get told that Trump does tweets, because the MSM can’t be relied on to report any press releases correctly, it sometimes hits home.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:23am
- MCos
  
  Something doesn’t quite ring true about your wee story there ‘lilman’.
  You harangue your ‘friends’ for two hours on anything at dinner they’ll agree with anything . . . . .
  “I laughed long and hard”
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:47am
  - srylands
    
    Sometimes it takes friends to tell friends some home truths. It hurts when facts cut through feelz. Better it happens in a safe environment.
    
    So I am surprised the story didn’t ‘ring true’
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:01am
  - lilman
    
    Nope all factual,got about 7 messages this morning about things I said and their comebacks.
    Thing is we are all Politically aware and strongly opinionated.
    Good mates dont hate,they stir, argue and jibe.
    Already got more info for them for Friday nite.
    
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    May 21, 2018 1:51pm
    - double d
      
      Nice work lilman
      There is this very peculiar NZ thing (look up the word “thing” for a real insight) that what is on TV1 news is fact. NZ people are very trusting and the group think is Trump is a bad man! The details around whether he is a dick or not is lost – it is what he does, not what he tweets that matters.
      
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      May 21, 2018 5:43pm
- Harkman
  
  The thing to like about Trump is he riles up the politically correct police. He infuriates them, so funny. Just like the TV show Gold Rush, I sit there watching it smugly knowing somewhere there are greenies flipping out over the wilderness being dug up for gold. ?
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:53am
Tauhei Notts

I got lost yesterday when travelling on the North Shore, around the likes of Birkdale, Beachaven etc. And I thought, as I tried to find my way out of that maze; this looks like Labour country to me. Possibly Labour have a chance of winning that bye election. Then when I emerged from the maze my mate told me that none of those houses I saw were worth less than $700,000; Labour have no show.
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May 21, 2018 8:09am
Komata

waikatogirl

Holograms are, by definition ‘…A special type of photograph or image made with a laser in which the objects shown look solid, as if they are real, rather than flat'(1)

The words ‘…In which the objects shown look solid, as if they are real, rather than flat’, describes the appointed PM quite well methinks…

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1.Cambridge Dictionary [online], https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hologram [accessed 21/5/2018], s.v.hologram.
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May 21, 2018 8:09am
- holysheet
  
  Komata are you the new Kimbo?
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:18am
  - lofty
    
    Oh dear God no…one is enough?
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:00am
  - Komata
    
    HS
    
    Nah, one of them is enough; why do you ask?
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:10am
  - double d
    
    Where isKimbo?
    
    Bring back Kimbo?
    
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    May 21, 2018 5:52pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Cindy’s hologram may appear to look solid Komata, but like her actual self she is all smoke, mirrors and fairy dust. ??
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:20am
  - Komata
    
    Waikatogirl
    
    Exactly – an even better description of a hologram.
    
    Thank you.
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:11am
marquess

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Where’s Paula been lately? All of the virtue signalling has been coming in from the likes of bishop, collins, and adams. Where’s their deputy leader? ?
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May 21, 2018 8:12am
- holysheet
  
  Getting that stomach belt tightened?
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:17am
  - marquess
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Yeesh, it’s a gastric belt, not a miracle. If it does happen though, think of all the Upper Harbour fast food workers who’d be out of a job ?
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:27am
    - softail 1450
      
      Marxist,it might heip you ,,,,,
      
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      May 21, 2018 9:07am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Actually Marquess, my wife had gastric surgery five years ago, and it was life-changing for her. Within a month she was off blood pressure medication, asthma medication, and in far better health generally. She and her friend who had surgery at the same time lost around 100kg between them, and got a new lease on life.
      
      Before you try to tell my that she obviously had no self-control, she had battled with her weight from childhood, and had tried every diet known to humankind, without lasting success. We paid for the surgery ourselves, and it was money well spent. She and her friend are both high-achieving women leaders in their respective professions.
      
      To anyone who has had chronic obesity issues, gastric surgery is definitely something to be considered. It’s not an easy way out either, because both the pre-op and post-op regimes require discipline. It can however be transformational, and I wish Paula Bennett all the best as she adapts to post-surgery life.
      
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      May 21, 2018 9:15am
      - double d
        
        KS – again you have written a great response.
        Total admiration to your wife on her journey and let’s not be too quick to judge.
        I miss your blog ….
        
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        May 21, 2018 5:54pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Woods is stepping up to fill the gap left by anyone who loses weiight. Aparently the pie van delivery drivers are drawing straws to see who is unfortunate enough to make the morning pie run to her office; many have been seen to enter, not so many leave . . . .
      
      And that is Bishop with a capital B, stop bashing yours and I might take you seriousily
      
      Just kidding, no chance.
      
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      May 21, 2018 10:41am
    - GazzaW
      
      I’m thinking that there could be a few Christchurch doughnut makers facing bankrupcy if one of your Ministers went for the gastric belt option marquess.
      
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      May 21, 2018 6:55pm
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Oh god the irony, and all this early on a Monday morning.
  
  Before I go there, wheres Kelvin? Is labour still protecting him and feeding him answers? Is Robbie putting anything else in his mouth other than yes and no?
  
  Paula has been very high profile in Northcote, as was the huge contingent of Nat supporters yesterday in the build up to the bye-election. And the one lonely sign waving old fart holding the labour sign I saw looked very very bored and very very lonely.
  
  Sorted out Camp Rape yet marquess?
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:19am
  - srylands
    
    Wow both barrels ?
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:04am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      And he didn’t miss!
      
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      May 21, 2018 9:16am
  - softail 1450
    
    Marxist. GONE,,,,
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:09am
  - marquess
    
    Oooooh, seems like I hit a nerve 😉
    
    That you, bishy? Run out of teenage girls to snapchat?
    
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    May 21, 2018 1:18pm
    - double d
      
      Beltway troll!!
      
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      May 21, 2018 5:56pm
  - suzieq
    
    “ By-election” …
    
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    May 21, 2018 2:10pm
hullkiwi

Is there no end to the B’S of a politician.

Goofy (& his team), have:
1. Campaigned & won the Auckland mayorlty;
2. Have commissioned expensive reports, that have provided conclusions that don’t accord with the Mayor’s views;
3. So they sit on the reports, but in doing so they ensure Goofy is not implicated directly for the obfiscation;
4. When the report is released finally, the citizens of Auckland are left feeling fleeced by a liar & a cheat.

Thank you media party who hyped up this prick as the appropriate candidate for mayor in 2016. Who do you want to inflict on Auckland next?
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May 21, 2018 8:15am
Paulus

I unfortunately I listened to somebody called Goff on Radio Left Wing this morning.
It is obvious that he is a consummate Liar when questioned about a number of things that the Ombudsman has effectively said he is lying and he had to release them – one the new Central Stadium which he has failed to release the report after many months.
Why are our socialists like that ?
Instinct to just lie to fit their own performance or lack of it.
However he joins many others of his ilk.
Calamity Cindy
Robertson
Curren
Parker
Peters
Woods
Hipkins
Clark
Hipkins
Twyford
Little
Lees Galloway
Mark
Shaw
Genter

am sure I have left some of them out
They should have a transparent conversation, form a committee, and do sweet FA.
Why are they such consummate liars ?
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May 21, 2018 8:17am
- doggone7
  
  Because they learned off The Master? Slow learners given 9 years have time to learn.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:21am
- holysheet
  
  It would have been easier to list those who haven’t lied….
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  …
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:24am
- backster
  
  The old creep Peters to the top of the list please.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:44am
oldpark

Many people in NZ often wonder why NZs home grown bank known as Kiwibank fails to get the drop or advantage over the Australian owned Banks.
Probably not hard to see one of the reasons,or even many.
In the last couple of months Kiwibank has furtively introduced some questionable new charges for unsuspecting account holders.
Starting with each account held will incur a charge of $4 .00 when mailed to the account holder. Next a bank charge of $15.00 for a cheque book. Now the latest from MAY 1 2018. Phone bankers after getting 5 inquires per month checking out their accounts no charge. Except to talk to an employee of Kiwibank regarding their phone banking account. Get this $5.00 each time.
Kiwibank the so called peoples Bank seem to have entered the field of gouging their captive account holders. Dont think when Jim Anderson came up with the idea of a NZ owned bank such as KIWIBANK, that to stay ahead or afloat Kiwibank would have to gouge their customers.
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May 21, 2018 8:21am
- MT_Tinman
  
  oldpark, I’m a Kiwibank customer (because of geography but that is another discussion).
  
  Both my personal and business accounts are with the bank.
  
  In the last 12 months I have wandered into Kiwibank twice – to deposit money.
  
  I have never used a telephone banking service and will never again use a cheque book.
  
  Nor do I accept cheques. With the advent of eftpos and credit cards they are basically redundant.
  
  I expect most Kiwibank customers have similar use patterns.
  
  It appears to me Kiwibank are, if the charges you list are correct, simply protecting the majority from the cost of the foibles of the few.
  
  Gouging they ain’t.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:46am
  - oldpark
    
    MT Tinman.
    Thank you each to their own.Go well .
    
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    May 21, 2018 8:57am
- VicParking
  
  If you have to have a statement mailed to you and use a Cheque book you deserve to be charged, just like you done by the guy who walks in front of your car with a flag
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:50am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Sometimes you need to write a cheque for large payments, due to online transfer limits. But for every day use, I guess it is still used as a form of payday loan ?
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:50am
    - kowtow
      
      Kiwibank operate account users charges . ‘sfar as I’m concerned they’re charging me to keep money in their bank , which is rude. But now they really are gouging by adding extra charges to the services they are meant to be providing to depositers , who make their business possible,.
      
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      May 21, 2018 11:04am
    - VicParking
      
      Need a large transfer, ring the bank, Prove who you are, tell them the amount and it will go through.
      Do it all the time.
      
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      May 21, 2018 11:06am
      - Paulus
        
        They reply OK on my mobile with a security number to insert on line to confirm.
        No problems.
        I paid for a house on line to my Solicitor – easy – took 5 minutes.
        
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        May 21, 2018 2:00pm
    - MT_Tinman
      
      Sometimes you need to write a cheque for large payments, due to online transfer limits.
      
      What limits?
      
      I’ve transferred $50,000 for one transaction.
      
      Just how high are these limits?
      
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      May 21, 2018 11:49am
- hullkiwi
  
  Sorry oldpark, I’m with Tinman. We’re with KiwiBank, and do not get charges. All is online, debit/credit cards, no cheque book (I haven’t needed to write out a personal cheque for anything). So, no charges.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:59am
  - oldpark
    
    Hullkiwi.
    Thank you . No charges for you by Kiwibank ? Yet.
    Maybe when all their gouged customers finally get on to their banking wave length like you have, and good luck to you. Perhaps overnight charges will be introduced. Thought might be gouged customers are subsidising those on so called fee free internet banking.Surely not.
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:23am
    - matchbox
      
      Your earlier comment had some cred. Now you are just going OTT.
      
      Not one charge from Kiwibank for last three years. And no reason to invent probability of charges either, for next three years.
      
      Indeed this was one reason for my shift from Westpac those three years ago, from a bank whose second name seemed to be “Fees”.
      
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      May 21, 2018 11:39am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Matchbox we also moved most of our banking from Westpac to Kiwbank when we came back for the same reason & also when we wanted a mortgage their account manager made a big song and dance about us qualifying for a special package they could offer because I am a NZ chartered accountant.
        Problem for the Westpac Account Manager was their deal was not as good as a new customer package at KiwiBank.
        
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        May 21, 2018 12:59pm
- kowtow
  
  And a fee of $1 for each cheque cleared.
  And a charge of $3 to deposit cash .
  
  And to those who say you deserve to be chrged for the privelige of banking with these gouging tossers , at least the Oz owned banks aren’t acting the c#nt.
  
  From Jim Mora’s The Panel.
  
  ‘ The banks are laughing all the way to the banks. New Zealand’s big four banks have experienced a 75% increase in profits over a decade. Meanwhile, in Timaru Grey Power’s Denise Fitzgerald was astounded that her organisation would have to foot the bill for cheque service fees from KiwBank.’
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thepanel/audio/2018644153/kiwibank-s-1-cheque-service-fee
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:04am
  - VicParking
    
    Cheque’s delivered by a forked stick. It’s 2018 not 1950.
    
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    May 21, 2018 11:09am
  - Holly Roggerz
    
    Yeah you should be charged, because they are providing a service, that service costs money, particularly things like cheques and legacy phone tree systems. They are trying to push those users away in the same way that you didn’t want people under 30 as customers.
    
    Because Kiwi bank only wants to go after the most profitable customers, those few old people and other ‘high-maintenance’ customers that ring up every few days to talk about crap like phone banking and whatnot absoloutelty loose banks money.
    
    Without having to deal with those pesky customers they are able to provide low cost service to 95% of the population. That is there business model, same as youi similar to low cost airlines.
    
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    May 21, 2018 3:36pm
- DigNap15
  
  @Old Park.
  It was Kiwibank that brought in the monthly fee of $5.00 when all the other banks had been charging us $20.
  It seems that you are using old style methods that cost a lot to administer.
  
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  May 21, 2018 2:16pm
EAD_TWO

We’re reaching levels of sanctimonious whataboutism that shouldn’t be possible in a sane world:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104022125/cup-does-not-runneth-over-for-young-maori

This Government has decided to spend $100m on a support package for hosting the America’s Cup in Auckland.

I see there was much made of the fact the money would not go directly to Team NZ, which to me is somehow worse. We don’t even get a catamaran to keep at the end of it all. We could use it for weekend outings, activities. Emergency housing.

Meanwhile, in the dusty corner of Budget coverage that was Māori development, there were a couple of stories about $15m in new funding, to be shuffled out over four years, to help rangatahi – young people – without jobs, training or education.

They are getting an extra $15M over and above all the various billions of handouts they’re already getting from the Govt via a multitude of channels (dole, yoof grants, education grants, work schemes, housing benefits) yet still Whitey is still not doing enough❗

What the hell is the Bro-reaucracy using the billions upon billions of Waitangi handouts if not to help the Tamariki most in need?
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May 21, 2018 8:21am
- KevOB
  
  The tribal elders will have full control–the people nil.
  
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  May 21, 2018 2:34pm
softail 1450

O M G the fricking
idiots on drunken garners breakfast farce just referred to harrys new mrs as “a black woman” FFS I thought she was a white woman until i saw her mother .
seriously I figured she had been in the sun and had a nice tan ,W T F?
they said the addition of a black woman into the royals was “inclusive ” fucking tv3 fools.
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May 21, 2018 8:26am
- waikatogirl
  
  Softail, you must be the only one to have missed the months of diversity signalling regarding a black woman marrying into the royal family. Black people say they now feel accepted and part of the “system”.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:48am
  - Paulus
    
    Maori don’t want to be part of the larger system in New Zealand – they are still special.
    
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    May 21, 2018 2:02pm
    - DigNap15
      
      Yes, they call themselves Maori first, then kiwis (if that)
      Time we kept telling their their culture is violent, and their language is outdated, small and only ceremonial, and not even spoken by most of them.
      
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      May 21, 2018 2:19pm
      - KevOB
        
        And the inherent nature of the violence is endemic throughout Polynesia.
        
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        May 21, 2018 2:31pm
- MT_Tinman
  
  Hell!
  
  I hope they didn’t mention she was a divorcee.
  
  You’d need a new keyboard.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:48am
  - jcuk
    
    I was suprised to see her wearing a white wedding dress … but then I am an old foggie. Perhaps wouldbe duchess’s are permitted to wear white ?
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:39am
- VicParking
  
  No different than the thousands in NZ who call themselves Maori’s because their Great Grandmother was 50% maori.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:53am
  - Kabull
    
    Dont you mean ‘… because they think their Great Grandmother was 50% maori.’
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:12am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Because it provides them with a pecuniary advantage to claim their great grandmother was part maori
      
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      May 21, 2018 10:48am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Because they feel their great grandmother was 50% maori.
      
      There, fixed it for you.
      
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      May 21, 2018 11:36am
- kowtow
  
  I love all the liars who were interviewd about the black preacher , all so posidive . No one dared say ” What the fuck was that shit about”
  
  That would be “racist”.
  
  Cowed by 50 years of pc.
  
  “In this country in 15 or 20 years’ time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man.”
  EP
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:10am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Can’t wait for the black guilt to set in then
    
    Not going to happen is it?
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:49am
- EAD_TWO
  
  She’s in her late 30s, married twice before, been put away by all manner of producers and porn stars, but she still thought she’d pull off the dewy-skinned, virginal, doe-eyed look she picked up from some Disney cartoon princess, complete with sticking out her tongue like a teenage ingenue.
  
  What a farce.
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5715841/Meghan-Markles-date-porn-star-gaggle-lovers-shes-forget.html
  
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  May 21, 2018 2:45pm
Huevon

So I finally caught up with The Royal Wedding. Oh sweet Jah-sus, hallelujah! I say, praise his name! Oh lawdy, praise his name! Can ya see da light! I say, can ya see da light!

With that shuckin n divin show, so ends the House of Windsor.
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May 21, 2018 8:33am
- holysheet
  
  Yall missed the holy mons sayin all the shit about the king.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:42am
- MrTips
  
  I was kinda hoping the love rat would show his face but he had the decency not to I guess.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:56am
  - MCos
    
    Who?
    Donald Trump?
    I don’t think he was invited.
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:07am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  And the rise of da house Winstone
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:50am
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The week begins positively and harmoniously by a litany of sanctimonious drivel and pointless posts by the usual suspects.

May the good old whinge binge reign supreme by our KB in resident whiners grizzlers, Cindy and Meghan bashers and so on.

Remarkably the dreaded” Muslim” word doesn’t rate a mention.

Keep it up whingers.
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May 21, 2018 8:43am
- VicParking
  
  Sorry Stephie, Morning. Saw a video on the weekend of a whole gaggle of MUSLIM shit bags faking a video about attacking the IDF. You could tell it was fake because, amongst other things, the moment he start to fire he did not get his head blown off.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:57am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Sqwark
  Alt-right
  Trumpeters
  Sqwark
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:38am
MrTips

In other news, Hitler officially kahked it in 1945. He only had 4 of his own teeth left, had no meat residue on his dental remains (consistent with being vege), had a bullet hole in his jaw, was pretty thoroughly toasted all over and the Russians have had his remains all this time.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0953620518301912
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/adolf-hitler-really-is-dead-scientific-study-debunks-conspiracy-theories-that-he-escaped-to-south-america/ar-AAxyDQo?li=BBqdk7Q&ocid=mailsignout
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May 21, 2018 8:52am
- VicParking
  
  Fake News. He alive and well and running a fish and chip shop in Matamata.
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:59am
  - septic skeptic
    
    I thought he was the Minister for Education.
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:55am
- Ed Snack
  
  Hey, you got to give credit where credit’s due. Hitler may have been a dreadful person, but at least he killed Hitler !
  
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  May 21, 2018 3:22pm
Manolo

The criminal Maduro wants to finish off Venezuela:
https://www.afp.com/en/news/23/venezuelas-maduro-eyes-second-term-despite-economic-crisis-doc-1572035

Venezuelans, reeling under a devastating economic crisis, began voting Sunday in an election boycotted by the opposition and condemned by much of the international community but expected to hand deeply unpopular President Nicolas Maduro a new mandate.

Maduro, the political heir to the late leftist firebrand Hugo Chavez, has presided over an implosion of once wealthy oil producer Venezuela’s economy since taking office in 2013.
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May 21, 2018 8:53am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  The 55 year old former bus driver and former UNION LEADER has driven the economy down by 23% in his reign of terror
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:20am
dime

Kiwibuy – first of all LOL

second – no income cap? lol

whats next? Dime can buy a few and rent em out?

Is stoner twitford realising that he needs the filthy private landlords in order to actually house everyone?
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May 21, 2018 9:01am
- Maxx
  
  As long as they’re built and sold he meets his headline numbers I guess.
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:50am
  - dime
    
    opening it up to rich pricks is the only way he will get any numbers
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:57am
Poppa

My head hurts!

Apparently that brain surgeon Mahuta has said that they don’t want a new prison because it will only get full.

She really is a weapons grade idiot! Isn’t that the idea?
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May 21, 2018 9:03am
- Rich Prick
  
  That she wakes up and remembers to breathe is nothing short of a miracle. Do you think stupidity hurts?
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:07am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Without consciousness, there can be no pain.
    With level of stupid involved here, the brain function so low, the question has to be:
    How is she still breathing.
    
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    May 21, 2018 12:36pm
- waikatogirl
  
  I believe that was Angry Andy’s thinking she is following. Brains trust they are not.
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:15am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Neither of those words (brains or trust) can be used in the same sentence as their names.
    
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    May 21, 2018 11:23am
- Komata
  
  Poppa
  
  But, but, she is maori ‘Royalty’ (at least to some; just don’t tell that to a member of Nagati Porou, Ngapuhi or Arawa), so every statement she makes is AUTOMATICALLY the stuff of ‘Royal Dictum’, especially as she is so very, very well educated don’t cha know…
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:19am
- GoVege
  
  Stop paying gang members and other law-breakers to breed (and teach their kids crime) might help, Nanaia.
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:02am
- RW Capitalist
  
  A radical idea:
  If you don’t want to go to prison……..STOP BREAKING THE LAW.
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:08am
  - Poppa
    
    Believe it or not a lot of them like it in prison
    
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    May 21, 2018 11:16am
    - GoVege
      
      Probably get better fed than they ever did at home.
      
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      May 21, 2018 11:21am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Suggest less viewings of “The Shawshank Redemption”
      
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      May 21, 2018 11:22am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        An excellent movie BTW.
        
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        May 21, 2018 11:56am
  - MrLovebucket
    
    The problem is that laws in NZ are racist. Maori are unfairly disadvantaged by having “western” laws making things like theft, domestic violence, violence in general and fraud illegal. These are all part of strong traditional Maori culture and until we get laws changed to make Maori exempt, this problem will not go away. If you are not a Maori and disagree (or agree) with me, you are racist and I will shout down your logic and reason loudly by using the word “racist” over and over.
    
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    May 21, 2018 1:00pm
    - KevOB
      
      Who are Maori? Different tribes, different boats, different times, origin unknown and not necessarily the identical. No cohesion and requested intervention to enable survival post muskets.
      
      Time for the shakedown to stop.
      
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      May 21, 2018 2:28pm
- softail 1450
  
  poppa ,do you mean nannaia “its not curry its my moku” mahuta ,the 1st woman in the world to become a cabinet minister with a tattooed chin, man oh man what a legacy for decades in that bighouse.
  
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  May 21, 2018 12:20pm
- MrLovebucket
  
  The scary thing is, while she sets a pretty low bar, there are several in the CoL front line who are even dumber (woods, curran, davis, anyone from NZ 1st)
  
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  May 21, 2018 12:51pm
- ex-golfer
  
  Using the Mahuta logic we don’t need a new hospital in Dunedin because it will only fill up with sick people!
  
  Fact: We have the lowest crime rate in years
  Fact: We have a high prison muster
  Correlation: Lock up criminals and the crime rate is low.
  
  Is it really that hard for these people to comprehend?
  
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  May 21, 2018 6:47pm
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND BUBBLE HOUSING MARKET TANKING …

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/links-21-may-2018/#comment-3107926 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/political-backlash-builds-against-queen-lucys-dystopian-sydney/#comment-3107927 … and … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/05/general_debate_20_may_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2213941

More Auckland houses for sale, but fewer buyers | Newshub

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2018/05/more-auckland-houses-for-sale-but-fewer-buyers.html

New figures show a spike in the number of Auckland homes being put on the market.

But while more houses are for sale, the number of people buying them has dropped.

Harcourts says the number of Auckland houses for sale is up nearly 30 percent from last year, but at the same time it reports sales are down 16 percent. … view and read more via hyperlink above …
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Despite all the talk of big public infrastructure projects, the construction industry seems to be in a downward track with significantly less concrete being poured in the first quarter of 2018 | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93636/despite-all-talk-big-public-infrastructure-projects-construction-industry-seems-be

The New Zealand construction industry is in a soft patch.
Slumping business confidence in the sector was confirmed today with the release of the readymixed concrete data for the March 2018 quarter.

Only 913,000 cubic metres of readymix concrete was poured nationwide in March, a -5% drop from March 2017. This is the largest year-on-year fall since 2009.

Part of that retreat is the wind-down of the Christchurch rebuild.

But a surprisingly large fall in Auckland is the real driver.
The Auckland pour was down -7.4% from the March 2017 quarter, and that is on top of the -10.4% fall in the December 2017 quarter…. read more via hyperlink above …
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https://www.anz.co.nz/resources/9/0/9017e2e1-56a4-4f3f-ad89-7d3a64f2a7b9/ANZ_Business_Outlook_20180430.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

… extract …

… The construction sector stood out this month. In short: its confidence plummeted; own activity plunged; employment indicators were mixed; expected profitability plunged to the lowest level since 2009; pricing intentions eased; investment recovered; capacity utilisation was unremarkable; residential construction intentions fell to the lowest since mid-2015; commercial construction intentions fell 4 points but are still higher than November; perceived ease of credit continues to recover but remains negative. … read more via hyperlink above …
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May 21, 2018 9:08am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Where median prices for various Auckland dwelling types should be at …
  
  NEW ZEALAND: There is nothing ‘affordable’ about Kiwibuild Housing Minister Twyford
  
  By Hugh Pavletich
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/05/garner_says_kiwibuild_a_hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-2209572
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  Bank of mum and dad could be NZ’s sixth largest first-home mortgage lender … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax New Zealand
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/103712810/bank-of-mum-and-dad-could-be-nzs-sixth-largest-firsthome-mortgage-lender
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  A generation of mortgage slaves: Auckland’s house prices leave home owners mired in debt | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/103205338/a-generation-of-mortgage-slaves-aucklands-house-prices-leave-home-owners-crippled-in-debt
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  UPDATE – New (IPSOS) survey reveals housing, poverty and healthcare most concern New Zealanders – NZ Herald
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12047092
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:10am
  - stigie
    
    “But while more houses are for sale, the number of people buying them has dropped.”
    
    Are they all heading off to Australia for a brighter future Hugh..?
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:14am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  OK team, only five more ‘reports’ and the irritating pest is gone.
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:18am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Freedom of speech is of no interest to the Neandethals of the National Party.
    
    Capt Mainwaring … I suppose National Neandethals live in caves … so housing is of little interest.
    
    Is that correct ?
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:23am
  - Swifty
    
    Pavletich is now claiming that Kiwibloggers reaction to report his rudeness and longstanding abuse of this blog is now a ‘freedom of speech’ issue – notwithstanding he has his own blog to post his crap.
    
    He also now claims we are Neanderthals for this quite understandable response to his abuse, spamming and relentless self-promotion of his personal business interests.
    
    What a dick.
    
    Just like Penny he claims victim status when the situation was entirely of his own making.
    
    What an absolute cock of the highest order.
    
    Kiwiblog readers are merely and finally giving him his just desserts.
    
    Suck it up Hugh.
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:01am
- artemisia
  
  Hugh, any thoughts on how many of those homes on the market are rentals? Anecdotally landlords are selling up. A spike in listings – has to come from somewhere. But where?
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:31am
Inandout

Watching the screaming US preacher at Harry’s wedding I had thoughts of Twyford. Don’t know why exactly, but maybe just his verbal meandering.
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May 21, 2018 9:10am
- Harkman
  
  Did you see all the politically correct morons run cover for that pathetic bishop? He nearly ruined the entire event and all these idiots on TV are ‘he was amazing.’
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:17am
- Gravelroad
  
  Over on Whale Oil they have a large photo of Mr Twyford with his finger pointing skyward.
  All it needs is a black toothbrush moustache added and he would look just like ………..?
  Clue: A…. H…… reincarnated.
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:24am
  - MCos
    
    Don’t be bashful . . . . . say what you mean
    
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    May 21, 2018 9:52am
- KevinH
  
  The camera panned over to the bleachers where the Royals were sitting and the looks on Camilla’s and Kate’s face said it all.WTF.
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:16am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Saw that, and the silly sisters Beatrice and Eugenie couldn’t stop wittering at each other either, and Zara Tyndall looked aghast as well.
    Everyone knew the service was going to be addressed by an episcopalian minister from US, so what the hell did the precious ones think was going to happen?
    I was heartbroken the “Stand by Me” didn’t let rip and get those feet a-tappin’ and St Georges like they never tapped before.
    
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    May 21, 2018 1:04pm
Harkman

So I watched James Bond last night (Spectre) and it is safe to say that he has all the luck and thus must surely be regulated by the nanny state, #metoo, verbal feminazis. His ex boss M (Judy Dench) leaves him a message to go to Mexico and kill some bad guy, which he does and then sleeps with his wife, who then leads him to a guy he has been tracking since Casino Royale. Before this guy commits suicide, he points Bond in the direction of his beautiful daughter, who Bond after some vigorous exercise (and killing) also sleeps with. After the dust settles, he drives off into the sunset with her in an Aston Martin DB5 worth $NZ1.1m.
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May 21, 2018 9:30am
- septic skeptic
  
  It will be long time before we see another Bond as good as Daniel Craig – simply the best!
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:02am
  - artemisia
    
    Agree though Sean Connery was pretty good. Daniel Craig helped along by Tom Ford.
    
    Rewatched him last night in The Ice House (BBC). Very good in that.
    
    Believe his role in Layer Cake was instrumental in getting him the first Bond role.
    
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    May 21, 2018 10:07am
    - kowtow
      
      Connery pretty good?
      
      He was the best .
      
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      May 21, 2018 11:11am
  - suzieq
    
    Sean Connery …
    
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    May 21, 2018 3:11pm
- VicParking
  
  Sounds to like you were watching ‘Fish of the day’
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:14am
  - sooty
    
    Not going to live that one down. If he had just STFU and kept his head down below the parrapet.
    
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    May 21, 2018 12:36pm
Harkman

That Bill Rosenberg is a real piece of work, his view was that Labour is sort of on the right track with health but could spend more. If you take out Dunedin Hospital and the midwives there is less for everything else. Heck pharmac has been cut. Bill Rosenberg conveniently ignored this, naturally he wouldn’t have missed this if National was still in government. Instead he would have been outraged.
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May 21, 2018 9:39am
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Yeah well Rosenberg is just a union\Labour Party shill so nothing surprising there.
  Both National and Labour have economists who are their “go to men” who they will always use for their analysis because they are toadies who can always be relied on to give the answers they want to support their policies.
  Read the papers and watch the TV and it will become obvious who the bootlickers are when it comes to economic research.
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:06am
- mandk
  
  Before the CoL gained power, Rosenberg spent years complaining about how health spending wasn’t keeping up.
  
  Why doesn’t he point out that the increase in spending on health services in the recent Budget was less than the increase delivered in National’s last Budget.
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:08am
Gravelroad

Harkman, I would have some respect for these actors and celebrities who protest about guns if they took a stand and refused to “star” in movies which include gun use.
But they won’t do that.
Recently, that ghastly Ellen deGeneras took part in an anti gun rally where she was pictured surrounded by her bodyguards all armed with……..guns.
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May 21, 2018 9:46am
LisaGinNZ

I doubt NZ media will cover this story:

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/17/far-russia-investigations-keep-leading-back-investigators/
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May 21, 2018 9:58am
Captain Mainwaring

Wow, Hugh’s gone already. Great work team.
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May 21, 2018 10:07am
Swifty

Hahaha!

Pavletich claims Kiwiblog readers quite understandable reporting of his longstanding spamming and abuse of this blog is a ‘freedom of speech issue’ and that readers and ‘Neanderthals’ for doing so.

What a total cock.

Just like Penny he claims victim status for an issue entirely of his own making – that is relentlessly spamming this blog over matters related to his own personal business interests and willfully ignoring equally longstanding and polite requests to tone it down.

Postings now disappearing into moderation? This is merely just desserts.

Suck it up you creep.
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May 21, 2018 10:10am
- sooty
  
  Hugo, Yugo!
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:37am
- Swifty
  
  *I see Hugh’s ‘freedom of speech’ post has now disappeared.
  
  Heh heh.
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:33am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    He disappeared because the A Team lodged 6 reports against him. Only took about half an hour.
    We can do it every time he appears if you like.
    Let’s try and get it down to ten minutes.
    
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    May 21, 2018 11:39am
Herodotus

No wonder The Nats lost, Bill never explained clearly (to me)that the national
AMY So we had our policy going into the last election, which was that we could afford to return $1000 a week to the average worker and continue to put more funding into health
(1:42 into the clip)!!!
Can we have a Fin Spokesperson that know their numbers ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=109&v=xBEld5sPDso
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1805/S00310/qa-amy-adams-interviewed-by-corin-dann.htm
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May 21, 2018 10:28am
Manolo

The FBI had a mole:
https://nypost.com/2018/05/19/cambridge-professor-outed-as-fbi-informant-inside-trump-campaign/

A Cambridge professor with deep ties to American and British intelligence has been outed as an agent who snooped on the Trump presidential campaign for the FBI.

Multiple media outlets have named Stefan Halper, 73, as the secret informant who met with Trump campaign advisers Carter Page and George Papadopoulos starting in the summer of 2016. The American-born academic previously served in the Nixon, Ford and Reagan administrations.
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May 21, 2018 10:42am
- Inandout
  
  Halper even looks like a Lefty academic, all sad and droopy. Not an ounce of get up and go in his whole body.
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:15am
- LisaGinNZ
  
  Obama regime SPIED on Trump’s campaign. WHERE is the outrage?! https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/18/obama-spied-trumps-campaign-wheres-outrage/?__twitter_impression=true
  
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  May 21, 2018 12:45pm
  - stephieboy
    
    LisaGinNZ , an allegation not a fact. Maybe one of Trump’s fired cabinet members can lead the investigation.
    
    LOL!
    
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    May 21, 2018 1:20pm
  - Harkman
    
    Remember March later year when Trump tweeted that he was wire tapped and the media spent weeks claiming that Trump had lost his marbles? And Obama issued an official statement denying it. Yet it was all true and more, planting spies in the campaign. Unreal.
    
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    May 21, 2018 1:25pm
Manolo

What happens when the religion of peace, the vile Islam, rules unopposed:
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/human-rights-groups-slam-saudi-arabia-chilling-smear-campaign-against-activists-786866070
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May 21, 2018 10:45am
- Rich Prick
  
  No doubt our stroppy feminists led by Julie Anne Genter will be up in arms about this. Being accused of being a traitor in Saudi Arabia almost certainly guarantees a one way trip to Deera Square. Or will it be *crickets* as usual from these hypocrites?
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:54am
- stephieboy
  
  Disn’;t stop the state visit by the President and First Lady.
  
  Aye?
  
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  May 21, 2018 1:21pm
Poppa

Well who would have thought?

Rents nationally hit record high. That is what you get when the Government kick landlords in the slats. Some leave the market creating a shortage and then up she goes.

Keep it up Labour, there won’t be many left soon, & then what?
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May 21, 2018 11:00am
- RW Capitalist
  
  “then what”….they are socialists, they will expand the state housing stock by borrowing billions, because it is “needed” and hay presto Venezuela of the South Pacific.
  Another crisis of THEIR making that they are the only ones that can fix it (NOT).
  This Labour created crisis can join:
  Micoplasma bovis
  Transport
  Health
  Education
  All were problems, National had answers that were WORKING (some better than others) but it took a Labour govt. to make them into a crisis.
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:19am
- Richard
  
  KiwiBuild barracks. KiwiBuild shower block. KiwiBuild collective kitchens. Bliss.
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:26am
  - labrator
    
    Ardern should buy the rights to the old Lada moulds and we could restart KiwiCar. What were they called., Trekkas or something?
    
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    May 21, 2018 12:29pm
    - Poppa
      
      A headmaster at my school had one of those pieces of crap, he was the perfect owner for such a vehicle
      
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      May 21, 2018 12:57pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      “The Škoda powered Trekka was a light utility vehicle manufactured in New Zealand”
      Wasn’t it a 2 wheel drive SUV?
      I know for sure, it was a joke.
      Skoda: a communist built piece of shit. (a joke)
      But wind on 40 years, 20 of which under a capitalist system and Skoda becomes European car of the year.
      BUT BUT BUT….Jacinda said…….”capitalism has failed”
      She must have been excluding the car industry and research and development and oil industry and ….and …and…Oh shit what didn’t she exclude?
      
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      May 21, 2018 3:33pm
      - Jack5
        
        A good example of the benefits of the two economic systems, RW Capitalist.
        
        Occupied Czechoslovakia, the home of Skoda, was also a powerhouse of armament manufacturing for Nazi Germany. The industry began before then. For example, well before the Nazis marched in, the Czechs developed the Bren gun, used by Commonwealth armies for decades.
        
        Wikipedia notes:
        
        World War II left Czechoslovak industrial facilities largely intact. In the late 1940s, Czechoslovakia was one of the most industrialized countries in the world, and the quality of its products was comparable to that of other industrialized countries.
        
        The country then stagnated under Communism until the Velvet Revolution of 1989.
        
        Now, split into the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic, industry is moving again.
        
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        May 21, 2018 5:59pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Ah Richard is the new prison going ahead sooner rather than later to provide some more emergency housing?
    
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    May 21, 2018 4:31pm
- GazzaW
  
  The rent rise was given a massive kickstart by Hipkins increasing student allowances. A straight donation to the landlords courtesy of the taxpayer.
  
  Unintended consequences……………
  
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  May 21, 2018 7:06pm
sooty

Sexist policy released by MP Robertson in his budget on thursday about bueatiful horses. What about the ugly ones, you know with big teeth and cankles? I think it’s wrong for Mr Robertson to pander to NZF like that while giving a sly nudge, nudge, wink, wink to Whinney. Oh, to see what was writen in the pages of the coalition document the the taxpayers are not aloud to see.
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May 21, 2018 11:00am
- Inandout
  
  Granty sees beauty in all things equestrian; and Alf also of course.
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:12am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Grant is a horses ass, maybe it was that end he was looking at?
    
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    May 21, 2018 3:35pm
  - Piniwi
    
    But Inandout should that be “and Alf too off course?”
    
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    May 21, 2018 4:33pm
    - sooty
      
      It would be painful if he was off course.
      
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      May 21, 2018 5:27pm
- VicParking
  
  Stephie’s pissed. He was hoping for tax relief on beautiful goats. His best goat Khadījah bint Khuwaylid won Goat of the year for he looks and Shapley rear end ??
  
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  May 21, 2018 11:20am
- Paulus
  
  The Ugly ones will be called filly steak in good restaurants.
  No tax concessions.
  
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  May 21, 2018 2:10pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Equine adhesive.
    
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    May 21, 2018 3:36pm
Captain Mainwaring

The CoL has canned the new Waikeria prison.
Get ready for hardened crims living near you.
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May 21, 2018 11:20am
- MrLovebucket
  
  No, you have clearly missed Andrew Littles amazing insight. Removing prisons will actually be a deterrent to criminals.
  
  The fact prisons exist is the actual reason people are spurred into a life of crime. Simply remove prisons and by magic, no one will commit crimes any more.
  
  This will also mean we can reduce the police force by 1800 and spend the money saved on much-needed Waitangi settlements and renaming things around NZ for the sake of it. Perhaps even three world-class stadiums in Auckland to go with the monorail.
  
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  May 21, 2018 12:44pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    AAAHHH I get it…the same type of argument they used for interest free student loans.
    You know
    If we make them interest free, they will be cheaper and the students will pay them back faster.
    How’d that work out….OOPS.
    
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    May 21, 2018 3:38pm
- Philview
  
  I have noticed articles like this popping up in the main newspapers. It talks of our “racist” penal system which “persecutes” New Zealanders.
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/deprivation-formative-years-reflected-statistics
  
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  May 21, 2018 1:05pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Well Philview it is not really rocket science required to retrace to where this problem really started and how that was also touted to be for the children’s benefit. The introduction of the DPB was sold to the taxpayer as a means to provide for disadvantaged children. Again the Fool Factor took control of the whole idea and it became the biggest employment growth area as baby making was introduced. It was even better than the dole which had seen fantastic acceptance by with every limitation, condition and restriction was eliminated. We reap what we so was never truer than with the problems now manifesting from paid unlimited breeding of what were once cuddly little bundles of financial joy. Thus it is time to rinse and repeat with the added attraction of a hefty Baby Bonus, reduced responsibility and barriers soon to be also rinsed by the COL.
    
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    May 21, 2018 4:50pm
Richard

Read the NewsHub report on Arderns hologram appearance. I couldn’t stop laughing. It summed up her present govt, her leadership and her future:

“She’ll walk out, she’ll do her normal announcements – it’ll just look like she’s there. But if you’re watching closely there’s probably going to be a few glitches, because it’s actually a projection.”
Anyone unsure whether the mother-to-be was there in the flesh wouldn’t have been fooled for long – at the end of her short speech, Ms Ardern dissolved into thin air..”
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May 21, 2018 11:23am
- MrLovebucket
  
  All lights and no substance
  
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  May 21, 2018 12:36pm
Monique Watson

Under the heading: Oh Fuck Off.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12055452

Warning labels on alcoholic drinks should be mandatory, say academic arseholes who want to meddle in others business.
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May 21, 2018 11:25am
- RW Capitalist
  
  NUP….the lights are not on in this one.
  
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  May 21, 2018 3:40pm
Surely Knott

Waitakere Greenways Plan open for submission – last day. Plan proposes numerous pathways proposed across rural private property especially along streams. When asked wether they plan to use the public works act to acquire these properties for the walkway the response from the local board member was that their was no plan to use the public works act at this time. Hmmmmm. But no indication of how they plan to acquire the necessary land to implement their plans. My concern is that the recent Countryside act in the UK which gave the public the right to roam and recreate on privately owned rural properties with no compensation to the property owners. Feels like new pressures will be coming on rural property owners and private property rights.
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May 21, 2018 11:35am
- waikatogirl
  
  ‘Annie, get ya gun’, should be a fix the problem of people wandering over private property! ?
  
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  May 21, 2018 1:47pm
AgentBallSack

Hopefully DPF will ask Hugh to stop spamming his blog with advertising spam.
HYPERLINK HYPERLINK HYPERLINK
hugh comments here

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link to my comment behind paywall

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blah blah blah ad infinitum.

Also good riddance to Kea again. He’s already back I see, under the guise of mudrunner
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May 21, 2018 11:40am
RF

On Newstalk ZB Soper and Dickinson were just laughing about Ardern’s grammar.

Some think, poverdy, parady etc…

Thick as a stack of planks……
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May 21, 2018 12:24pm
labrator

Looks like Penny finally did the sensible thing and signed a rates abatement notice.

Very sad about her cancer diagnosis. I wish her the best despite disagreeing with her method of trying to get Auckland Council to more transparent.
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May 21, 2018 12:26pm
- Komata
  
  labrator
  
  How very, very, very ‘convenient’ for her…
  
  No doubt she will return here screeching her triumph and lecturing us ad nauseum about her ‘accomplishment’. She has ‘form’ in such matters…
  
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  May 21, 2018 9:44pm
Jack5

Who is paying for the helicopter lifting of pine trees from Auckland’s volcanic cones so they can be replaced by indigenous trees?

Does the Tupuna Maunga Authority, which manages the cones (in Maori, maunga) foot the bill? If so where does it get its cash from?

Bet they’d like to helicopter out of Auckland non-Maori citizens, too.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12055533
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May 21, 2018 12:44pm
Ross12

This Green MP ( Golriz Ghahraman) is a real piece of work. If the Greens endorse her attitude and comments then they have serious problems and so does NZ.
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/05/identity-for-me-but-not-for-thee/
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May 21, 2018 12:57pm
Inandout

Countdown stopped issuing free plastic bags at 10 stores, but charge 15c for a option plastic bag. Cunning or what? I think this whole plastic bag issue has become a mania, and meanwhile millions of plastic (and un-reusable) milk containers still get pumped out.
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May 21, 2018 1:05pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Our local board pays $5k annually for our environmental group, to fund a plastic bag group (which appears to be just a subbrand of the environment group) to do a handmade bomerang bag campaign. Along with a social media campaign with loads of green party videos and labour mps with pictures of the kids schools, green mps doing sausage sizzles at the shops. But because they have laundered the funding through the environment trust and don’t put the council logo on it they get away with the council funded political astroturfing.
  
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  May 21, 2018 1:24pm
- kowtow
  
  Meanwhile practically every thing in the shop is wrapped in …….plastic.
  
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  May 21, 2018 1:40pm
  - KevinH
    
    You’re dead right there Kowtow. Just about everything we buy is wrapped in plastic.Toothpaste though comes in a card board box but hey presto when you open it there is a plastic tube inside.
    
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    May 21, 2018 2:09pm
    - GazzaW
      
      It’s wellknown in the industry that toothpaste packaging costs more than the contents.
      
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      May 21, 2018 7:11pm
- waikatogirl
  
  When I go to Countdown I will be taking my free NW carry bags just to piss them off. ?
  
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  May 21, 2018 1:49pm
- lifesgood
  
  It is the biggest con job ever. They are making a killing selling those plastic bags. They would probably pay less than 1c for them
  
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  May 21, 2018 1:52pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Nope, play the game and they stack it on the floor. Then refuse to pay.
  Or point out that the emails and flyers are no longer welcome. They spend so much on that and can’t afford reusable plastic bags? Greens can fuck off
  
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  May 21, 2018 7:38pm
Captain Mainwaring

Why don’t Countdown just adopt the Pak ‘N Save policy of providing a heap of cardboard boxes at the front door?
I haven’t bought a Pak ‘N Save plastic bag for 5 years.
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May 21, 2018 1:10pm
- Inandout
  
  The Greens will say you improperly dispose of the cardboard. They hate dairy farms with a vengeance and then presto, cows are being culled left right and centre. They hate private vehicles as well, and wham, fuel prices skyrocket. I am awaiting them to attack shower heads.
  
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  May 21, 2018 1:23pm
  - RalphT
    
    “I am awaiting them to attack shower heads.” And following the ban on showers we’ll all start to smell like feral greens.
    
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    May 21, 2018 1:26pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Nor have I Captain, but that could be because I never shop at Pak ‘N Save 😀
  
  I shelled out 15 cents for one of the new Countdown bags today; they’re actually not bad, and should get a t least a week’s worth of shopping out of it. They certainly carry way more than the conventional single-use bags.
  
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  May 21, 2018 1:35pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    “They certainly carry way more than the conventional single-use bags.”
    
    Bigger bags that hold more are not great for little old ladies to lug into the car. I don’t think the supermarkets have thought this virtue signalling through very well.
    
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    May 21, 2018 1:53pm
    - Paulus
      
      The three different local supermarkets I know will always get somebody to assist those who cannot load their own cars.
      Nothing new here.
      
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      May 21, 2018 2:15pm
    - Inandout
      
      I was at a New World today and each checkout had 2 staff, one to register the items and another to pack the goods. Previously the operator did their own packing but I suppose with grubby reusable bags they are hesitant to touch them. Public holidays will be a hoot with customers fumbling with their cloth bags and the queues getting longer.
      
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      May 21, 2018 3:21pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        My NW nearly always have a packer on the checkout. You pay a higher price for your groceries for the extra service.
        
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        May 21, 2018 5:19pm
    - KevOB
      
      The scam has gone far enough.
      
      This benefits the supermarkets as we will have to shop more often. This will increase their sales and put pressure on family budgets. $$$.
      
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      May 21, 2018 3:38pm
    - KevOB
      
      Physiotherapists will love larger bags. They will add to govt medical costs too.
      
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      May 21, 2018 3:41pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “that could be because I never shop at Pak ‘N Save”
    
    Sorry KS, Pak ‘N Save is an occasional necessity because Countdown is much more expensive for fish, ice cream and grog, among other things.
    
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    May 21, 2018 3:25pm
- KevinH
  
  Yes I use the cardboard boxes as well. I notice a lot of people bring their own bags which is encouraging.
  I also have some Countdown bags in the back of my car which I use where ever regardless of the shop.
  
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  May 21, 2018 2:15pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Countdown’s promotional campaign is called Countdown collectables. Which involved a plastic domino with a cartoon character on it, and each domino was wrapped in foil wrap. And then you bought a big plastic photo album with a plastic shaped insert with a hole for each domino and try and collect the lot. It’s always good to be less wasteful but they could start with their own promotions and packaging. IMHO. 🙂
  
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  May 21, 2018 6:17pm
- GazzaW
  
  I buy PaknSave plastic bags fifty at a time. At ten cents a time they make great rubbish bags and bin liners.
  
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  May 21, 2018 7:15pm
DigNap15

Yes you can buy what they call T-Shirt bags in bulk on TradeMe for a few cents each, or for about 1c each from Ali Babas.

Meanwhile China stops taking our recycling stuff.
So much or clean green NZ.

I would really like to know what is actually recyled here in NZ, by whom and how.
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May 21, 2018 2:10pm
- waikatogirl
  
  News article of the growing bales of plastic at sitting in depots around NZ waiting to be dealt with somehow now China has stopped taking our recycling. It was not a pretty sight and a large problem for the regional councils and the COL to deal with.
  Maybe we need to go back to glass milk bottles clinking with the doorstep delivery??
  
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  May 21, 2018 2:33pm
  - simpleton1
    
    But we must think of climate change, the vehicles driving every street, emitting emissions.
    Ok there are electric milk carts, so that people early in the morning are not awakened.
    
    Twice the cartage, taking the empties back.
    All the hot water, detergents, heat energy to sterilize, that also have to be processed at sewerage plants.
    
    The +
    Reading and comprehension improve, Noting the tokens, messages, to how many bottles to leave.
    Modern day apps, will have a very useful set up for those messages.
    
    NZ may win back some Olympic Gold medals, as the young lads and lasses, in training, making the dash to the milk box and back.
    
    Will look the part to be selling ‘trim’ milk.
    
    A good market was in the selling of grapefruit juice, if I recall correctly, “pinto” that did not have added sugar.
    
    Looks like wg is onto a winner.
    
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    May 21, 2018 2:51pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Some of my neighbours have a regular milk truck delivery. Bit of nostalgia for this older bird but without the clink of glass bottles. ?
      
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      May 21, 2018 5:24pm
  - rangitoto
    
    It’s a simple problem that was solved in the paleolithic age. We call the solution fire.
    
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    May 21, 2018 3:22pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      or maybe a dozen of these.
      https://www.goodnet.org/articles/norway-now-has-most-efficient-recycling-plant-on-earth
      
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      May 21, 2018 4:09pm
      - kowtow
        
        Yes Sweden does import a lot of trash.
        
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        May 21, 2018 7:21pm
  - Inandout
    
    Glass bottles, stuff found in the bottom because it has been used for unmentionable stuff, and of course tainted milk from the sunlight. Cardboard milk containers are great and I buy them, but not for travel when opened.
    
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    May 21, 2018 4:50pm
- artemisia
  
  Flight Plastics in Lower Hutt is going good. It got a decent start up grant from the Waste Minimisation Fund.
  
  https://www.flightplastics.co.nz/
  
  https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/flight-plastics-opens-australasias-first-pet-plastic-wash-plant-lower-hutt-b-205989
  
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  May 21, 2018 4:18pm
DigNap15

If Maori got educated, and had some pride and some work ethic, they may be less imprisoned.

They have all the opportunities (and more) and should follow our asian immigrants as an example.

I will be holding Andrew Little, Kelvin Davis and Mania Mahuta and the rest of them personally responsible for every murder and bashing commited if they change the laws.
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May 21, 2018 2:13pm
KevOB

Maori and Asian (Chinese) immigrants have on international standardised comparisons a 20 point difference in the mean IQ level for each of the ethnic groups.
NZ-Euro 100, SD 15
Asian 105
Maori 85

That puts half of the total NZ Maori population in the bottom 1/3 of the NZ-Euro. That is why our schools are being dumbed down to disguise it. However that doesn’t get people into work despite their inability. IQ is still an excellent indicator of likely long term achievement potential.
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May 21, 2018 3:26pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Lower IQ and much more entitlement. A bad combination.
  
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  May 21, 2018 5:26pm
Monique Watson

One day at the end of class, little Rangi’s teacher asks the class to go home and think of a story to be concluded with the moral of that story. The following day the teacher asks for the first volunteer to tell their story.

Little Suzy raises her hand. “My dad owns a farm and every Sunday we load the chicken eggs on the truck and drive into town to sell them at the market. Well, one Sunday we hit a big bump and all the eggs flew out of the basket and onto the road.”

When the teacher asked for the moral of the story, Suzy replied, “Don’t keep all your eggs in one basket.”

Little Lucy went next. “My dad owns a farm too. Every weekend we take the chicken eggs and put them in the incubator. Last weekend only eight of the 12 eggs hatched.”

Again, the teacher asked for the moral of the story.

Lucy replied, “Don’t count your chickens before they hatch.”

Next up was little Rangi: “My uncle Ted fought in the Vietnam war, and his plane was shot down over enemy territory. He jumped out before it crashed but could only take a case of beer, a machine gun and a machete. On the way down, he drank the case of beer. Then he landed right in the middle of 100 Vietnamese soldiers. He shot 70 with his machine gun, but then he ran out of bullets! So he pulled out his machete and killed 20 more. Then the blade on his machete broke, so he killed the last ten with his bare hands.”

The teacher looked a little shocked. After clearing her throat, she asked what possible moral there could be to this story.

“Well,” Rangi replied, “The moral of the story is, don’t f**k with Uncle Ted when he’s been drinking.”
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May 21, 2018 3:55pm
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Thread.

So, here I am in Alternate 2018, having to think hard about whether I really was all that happy that I'd gotten my way in 2016 and Hillary Clinton was actually president. The year since she took office has been a series of insane dumpster fires. /1— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

Multiple Clinton WH aides are under indictment. At least a dozen Russians, too. Some are cooperating with the FBI. The Democrats in the House are openly interfering in the work of GOP special counsel, a former FBI Director of impeccable character. /2— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

The economy is good, mostly because a small minority in Congress had thwarted Clinton's kookiest schemes, but now a liberal protectionist war with China threatens the rural and Rust Belt Americans Clinton hates so much. /3— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

To add insult to injury, Hillary then had the brass to advocate for helping China's dictatorial president make more tech jobs – in *his* country. WH aides rushed to contain the damage. Too late, as they were busy spinning their own loathsome comments about GOP Sen McCain. /4— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

And like clueless liberal she is, Clinton is making deals with dictators. The Russians own Syria – which again paid no real price for using WMD, due to her feckless grandstanding. The Russians are laughing at us. As is China. /5— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

Worst of all, the North Koreans, proving that hostage-taking works, bamboozled her into a summit that no one thinks is a good idea except the North Koreans. They get to keep their nukes, and then shake hands with the President. She might as well have sent Albright again. /6— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

Sure, she cancelled Obama's Iran Deal…but no one really can explain why, except that she seems to be doing the bidding of the Israelis, which is what her craziest, right-wing, anti-Semitic opponents warned us she would do as President. /7— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

In fact, she seems determined to start another Middle East conflict, which Trump and everyone else said she would. Maybe they were right. It's almost like she could have just hired John Bolton for all it matters now. /8— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

And her nasty personality is now on full display. There isn't anyone in America, except her most loyal voters, that she hasn't picked a fight with. But she's tight with Kanye West, which is what you'd expect from an identity politics leftist like her. /9— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

And, oh, man, the budget. Just as Trump's voters warned us, she gave a tax cut to big companies and coastal elites. She handed millions to Planned Parenthood. She's inflated the budget deficit beyond comprehension. /10— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

Aides are resigning faster than she can hire them. Leaks are rampant and vicious in a totally dysfunctional WH. She's mired in scandal, to the point where no decent lawyer will touch her, so she's had to fall back on old NYC pals like Rudy Giuliani. /11— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

Meanwhile, the scope of her financial shenanigans grows. Her abuses of spending on herself, and FEC violations, along with ties to the Russians, mount up./12— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

Fortunately, the Republicans in Congress are protecting the Constitution by demanding accountability. They're demanding that she talk to the Special Counsel, just as her husband had to. They're supporting requests for information. They're backing Federal law enforcement. /13— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

It's all so ghastly. Maybe Trump would have been a better choice. /14x— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) May 14, 2018

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/995848344441368576
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May 21, 2018 4:14pm
Jack5

Senior Police Constable Carl Pederson tasered a cornered feral goat 13 times. It escaped from a abattoir near Oamaru in December 2016 and was trapped in a garage by residents’ dogs.

“Unfortunately it was stressed out and quite unco-operative, so I Tased it,” the Southland Times reports Pederson as having said.

He said he feared the goat, which had damaged the garage, would escape back on to the main highway and endanger motorists.

A vet. was then called to sedate the distressed animal, and it was put down later.

The Ministry of Primary Industries investigated the incident, and decided against prosecuting the constable. Animal rights people are questioning the decision.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/103738117/Otago-cop-who-Tasered-feral-goat-13-times-won-t-be-prosecuted
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May 21, 2018 4:54pm
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GROPERS
No. 34: Kāpiti Coast councillor David Scott

… Crown prosecutor Kate Feltham told the court the alleged assault occurred during a morning tea at the Kāpiti Coast District Council in April last year.

She said while the complainant was talking to the mayor, Mr Scott came up and put his hand on her right hip.

“She moved to her left thinking someone was wanting to get past but instead he put his other hand on her left hip, holding her with such force she couldn’t move forward.”

“[Mr Scott] then rubbed his penis into her back, moving from one side to the other.”

Ms Feltham said the woman looked over her shoulder and saw Mr Scott and he went away without saying anything.

There was plenty of room behind her for him to walk past without any contact.

Ms Feltham said the mayor noticed something was wrong and asked if the complainant was okay. ….

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/357864/kapiti-councillor-on-trial-for-indecent-assault

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/94814137/kapiti-councillor-david-scott-facing-indecent-assault-charge-to-go-before-a-jury

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May 21, 2018 5:14pm
- Jack5
  
  Is it to be Get-a-Grope Morrissey or Get-a-Grip Morrissey?
  
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  May 21, 2018 5:18pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Ha ha ha ha ha! Good one, Jack!
    
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    May 21, 2018 5:22pm
    - sooty
      
      When are you going to put up the groper at the sex camp?
      
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      May 21, 2018 5:36pm
  - holysheet
    
    Nah morrissey is so ugly, no one will even accept koha to grope her..
    
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    May 21, 2018 5:29pm
    - stigie
      
      Crikey, did he get off morrissey..? //
      
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      May 21, 2018 5:37pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        did he get off
        
        Well, assuming Morrissey’s account is correct, he “rubbed his penis into her back” – so he didn’t get “in”. He probably didn’t rub her back for long enough to get “off” either. So a big miss all round!
        
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        May 21, 2018 6:44pm
      - nasska
        
        And I always imagined Local Body meetings to be boredom epitomised but no longer it seems.
        
        Instead vigorous debate on how to waste ratepayer’s money on vanity or social projects is interspersed with masturbation sessions accompanied with tea & caviare sandwiches.
        
        I have much to learn!
        
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        May 21, 2018 7:01pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        Perhaps you could stand for office at the next local body elections? Advantage: supplement your retirement income. Penny could give you some tips on how to maximise your vote!
        
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        May 21, 2018 7:04pm
      - nasska
        
        The opportunity to earn a few extra bob appeals Nostra but at my age the job description involving rubbing my penis into a fellow councillor’s back while moving from one side to the other sounds a tad strenuous for a worn out, broken-down old cocky.
        
        I’ll stick to culling the local snapper population. 🙂
        
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        May 21, 2018 7:10pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Morrissey:
  
  Darren Hughes seems to be missing from your list:
  
  Labour MP Darren Hughes resigned from Parliament yesterday as witness reports emerged of a distressed, naked man on the street near Mr Hughes’ Wellington home on the night a youth complained to police about an incident of a sexual nature.
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  One witness told 3 News a flustered man, matching a description of the complainant, was near the Mt Victoria tunnel around 5 o’clock on the morning in question. “He was standing there with one hand over his private parts and the other hand with his thumb out, hitch-hiking,” the witness said. “I thought, ‘Oh boy, the husband’s come home and it’s a quick exit’.”
  
  It’s unclear whether the witness mean a “quick exit” in a sexual sense (quick withdrawal) or a physical sense (running faster than Usain Bolt down a Wellington St at 5.00 am)!
  
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  May 21, 2018 6:57pm
  - stigie
    
    Darren is not your ordinary groper Nostra, he is what you call a hard core homo..?
    
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    May 21, 2018 7:02pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

Tonight Mary with their song Kissing Booth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40eU2Tkuh2k
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May 21, 2018 5:44pm
RF

Message to Ardern and coy.

Stop pissing around trying to make decisions that you are clearly not capable of following through and let the adults take over.

Smile & wave is wearing very thin.
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May 21, 2018 6:07pm
- nasska
  
  …..”Smile & wave is wearing very thin”…..
  
  But it’s different when the Left do it.
  
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  May 21, 2018 6:35pm
- Piniwi
  
  However RF we have identified one sure sign that we are again being lied to and is the frequent use of absolutely. Like today they can absolutely control M. Bovis after so many mistakes have been made and their slow reasction to the problem. Unfortunately for them as the numbers that need to be culled increase it will have a big effect on forthcoming dairy receipts.
  
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  May 21, 2018 7:26pm
Nostradamus

Former staffer of Wollongong MP Noreen Hay found guilty of electoral enrolment fraud

A former staffer of long-time Wollongong MP Noreen Hay has been found guilty of forging electoral roll documents ahead of Ms Hay’s successful re-election to the New South Wales Parliament in 2015.

Susan Maree Greenhalgh was found guilty of five counts of using forged document for public official to accept as genuine. The offences detail five Wollongong electoral enrolments, including names and addresses, being falsely and dishonestly lodged. Magistrate Susan McGowan handed down the guilty verdict in Wollongong court on Monday.

Ms Hay, a long-standing Labor MP, held the seat of Wollongong from 2003 to 2016.

And in New Zealand: Labour candidate sentenced over electoral fraud.

A Labour party candidate in Auckland’s first Super City elections will serve five months’ community detention for his involvement in New Zealand’s first electoral fraud.
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Defence lawyer Ron Mansfield said a conviction would end Daljit Singh’s employment as a real estate agent and endanger his roles as a justice of the peace, immigration adviser and marriage celebrant.

It must be time for Morrissey to start a series on Labour election cheats!
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May 21, 2018 7:39pm
- sooty
  
  How about just including the sex camp groper.
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Good old Shane.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/21/new-zealand-drugs-mp-blames-pacific-failed-states-drug-problems

Not pulling his punches on the PI druggie problem.
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May 21, 2018 8:09pm
- sooty
  
  What about his bros?
  Guna?
  
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  May 21, 2018 8:41pm
Nostradamus

NZ to gift White Horse to Nikko Tōshōgū Shrine in Japan

Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has announced New Zealand is continuing a tradition of over 50 years by gifting a white horse to Tōshōgū Shrine in Nikkō, Japan. … “The horse is to be named Kōmaru. He is a gift of friendship from the people of New Zealand to the people of Japan and a symbol of the enduring relationship between our two countries,” said Mr Peters.

It’s unclear whether: (1) Sir Patrick Hogan personally approved the gift; and (2) whether NZ First can expect to receive an undisclosed donation from Japan 🙂
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May 21, 2018 8:11pm
Viking2

Courtesy WOil.

Having already downed a few power drinks, she turns around, faces him, looks at him straight in the eye and says, “Listen here good looking, I screw anybody, anytime, anywhere, your place, my place, in the car, front door, back door, on the ground, standing up, sitting down, naked or with clothes on; it doesn’t matter to me. I just love it!”
Eyes now wide with interest, he responds, “No kidding, I’m in the Labour Party too!
What electorate are you from?”
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May 21, 2018 8:49pm
- sooty
  
  Love it mate! Sex camps for ever.
  
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  May 21, 2018 10:00pm
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND: WHY IS GREATER CHRISTCHURCH THE FAVOURED PLACE TO BUY A HOUSE ? … TELL HOUSING MINISTER TWYFORD …

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/links-22-may-2018/#comment-3108700 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/links-22-may-2018/#comment-3108703

New Zealanders feel better about housing market (ASB Survey) | Fairfax – Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/104077127/new-zealanders-feel-better-about-housing-market

… extract …

… “Less upbeat house price expectations for Auckland and Canterbury are consistent with broadly flat observed house prices. Conversely, stronger house price expectations for the rest of the country are consistent with sizeable house price increases observed outside of the major urban areas,” Tuffley said.

Christchurch was the only area where most respondents – a net 6 per cent – said it was a good time to buy.

In most other regions pessimists outnumber optimists although the balance is becoming less negative over time. Twenty per cent of respondents nationwide said it was a bad time to buy. … read more via hyperlink above …
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UPDATE – New (IPSOS) survey reveals housing, poverty and healthcare most concern New Zealanders – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12047092

A recent survey on key issues concerning New Zealanders has shown that housing accessibility and affordability are at the forefront of people’s minds.

The first of the quarterly New Zealand Issues Monitor reports, run by global market research company Ipsos, interviewed 610 respondents over the age of 16.

It sought to track what New Zealanders were concerned about, who is worried about what and which political parties are seen to be best able to improve matters. … read more via hyperlink above …

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… Why has New Zealand Housing Minister Phil Twyford STILL failed to learn why the smaller local government units of Selwyn and Waimakariri work … while the bureaucratically bloated Christchurch City Council (like Auckland) is a disaster …

… ( The whacko Unitec / Kiwibuild fiasco only illustrates the Auckland Council planners are still effectively dictating housing policy … and Phil Twyford is doing as he is told ) …

… The two smaller adjoining local government units of Waimakariri and Selwyn ‘saved’ Greater Christchurch during the recent earthquake events …
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Lincoln (South Christchurch): From mill town to boom town … John McCrone … The Press
… h/t GF …

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103331085/lincoln-from-mill-town-to-boom-town

It was supposed to be a post-quake phenomenon, yet there is little sign of it slowing. Why are rural fringe towns like Lincoln still growing so fast? JOHN McCRONE reports.

The contrast is striking. In central Christchurch, Fletcher Living is taking forever to get going on its East Frame townhouse and apartment block development.

Government and council have agreed that denser inner city housing is vital to making a success of the earthquake rebuild. Yet despite inking a deal with Fletcher to build nearly 1000 homes back in 2015, the first 20 properties won’t be finished until late this year.

The buyers just don’t seem to be there for them. And so the East Frame development has been uphill all the way.

However, take the road half an hour out of town to Lincoln and the story is the opposite. This once sleepy village has exploded with subdivisions. Its residential footprint is now 10 times what it was 20 years ago.

READ MORE:
* Rolleston: Time to take it seriously
* Christchurch’s $600 million motorways
* Christchurch’s next problem: bringing residents back into the CBD
* Government ‘locked in’ to contract for delay-riddled east frame

… Latest research from Canada … h/t WC …

Sorry city dwellers, Canadians are happier living in small towns: report … Global News

https://globalnews.ca/news/4214984/canadians-happiness-rural-small-towns/

Canadians living in big cities may be disappointed to learn that their counterparts in small towns and rural areas are likely happier.

That’s according to researchers at McGill University in Montreal and the Vancouver School of Economics, who took a look at the happiness level of Canadians across Canada. … read more via hyperlink above …

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN THIS WORLD … THE SMALL AND THE BAD.
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  NEW ZEALAND: Left behind: why boomtown New Zealand has a homelessness crisis … Reuters … h/t WC …
  
  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-newzealand-economy-budget/left-behind-why-boomtown-new-zealand-has-a-homelessness-crisis-idUSKCN1IL0UG
  
  Jonathan Barrett, Charlotte Greenfield
  
  WELLINGTON (Reuters) – New Zealand’s dairy-fuelled economy has for several years been the envy of the rich world, yet despite the rise in prosperity tens of thousands of residents are sleeping in cars, shop entrances and alleyways. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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