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Humble Capitalist

I utterly accept that you want extra chicken salt on your fish and chips but that’s not whats best for you and your whanau
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April 19, 2018 8:05am
- Nostradamus
  
  Jacinda Ardern likes “-ly” words:
  
  Ardern appears slightly taken aback by the interest in her pending motherhood. “I’m just pregnant, not incapacitated,” she said. “Like everyone else who has found themselves pregnant before, I’m just keeping on going. Certainly when I walk around and step outside my house … I get a few honks and hollers and everyone has been very warm. But again, I don’t take that to mean absolutely everyone in New Zealand is happy. I’ve got work to do to prove that I can fulfil the responsibilities I have, and I absolutely intend to do that and so does the government.”
  
  And, in a press conference with Malcolm Turnbull last year, Jacinda said “absolutely” a lot:
  
  It is absolutely fair to say that we are family. … The [Manus Island resettlement] offer is very genuine and absolutely remains on the table. … I absolutely understand the priority that has been placed around the offer by the agreement with the United States. … So I am proud that a quarter of our Caucus are now made up of Maori representatives. Fantastic representatives who will absolutely serve our party and New Zealand well. When it comes to your question more generally about the citizenship issue, I would contend that that actually has absolutely nothing to do with New Zealand and nor has it had ever had anything to do with New Zealand.
  
  For someone with a communications degree, she’s very waffly!
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:34am
  - hullkiwi
    
    And she doesn’t know grammar, like Star Trek she is one big split infinitive. Absolutely understand?
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:38am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      hullkiwi, sleepless night about this?
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:02am
      - hullkiwi
        
        No. I just have a problem with her, to quote the hashtag, #notmypm
        
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        April 19, 2018 11:12am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      Unfortunately this can be effective and mocking it tends to create a backlash, in the same way as it did when the left made fun of Bush.
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:05am
  - Yvette
    
    She has confessed her anxiety in NEXT MAGAZINE and the “–ly” words are a consequence of it.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:48am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      By she reassured us that she didn’t ly!
      
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      April 19, 2018 10:06am
  - Fletch
    
    Hmm, according to an article I just read, people who use absolutist words like that are more likely to be depressed and suicidal or have other mental issues.
    
    The style of language relates to how we express ourselves, rather than the content we express. Our lab recently conducted a big data text analysis of 64 different online mental health forums, examining over 6,400 members. “Absolutist words” – which convey absolute magnitudes or probabilities, such as “always”, “nothing” or “completely” – were found to be better markers for mental health forums than either pronouns or negative emotion words.
    
    From the outset, we predicted that those with depression will have a more black and white view of the world, and that this would manifest in their style of language. Compared to 19 different control forums (for example, Mumsnet and StudentRoom), the prevalence of absolutist words is approximately 50% greater in anxiety and depression forums, and approximately 80% greater for suicidal ideation forums.
    
    https://www.alternet.org/people-depression-use-language-differently-heres-how-spot-it
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:05am
  - Chris R
    
    She doesn’t seem to be absolutely planning as many “conversations” as she was in late 2017. I expect she’ll generate more “conversations” in Womens’ Weekly than in Hansard in the next few months.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:08am
  - Huevon
    
    I’ve started calling it her “boss voice”. She uses lots of adverbs and adjectives, with a *very* *utterly* *absolutely* serious tone.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:38am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Don’t forget her sad face to get across the gravity of her message. ☹️
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:44am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Oh, and the hand gestures, as though she’s reaching out for your understanding or agreement. God that irritates.
      
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      April 19, 2018 10:37am
      - Duxton
        
        Or your wallet….
        
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        April 19, 2018 1:05pm
  - stigie
    
    Absolutely “Lets do this”
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:44am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    You realise how well she does waffly when you compare it to a Kelvin Davis interview. If you haven’t seen Garner with Davis from earlier in the week I recommend it.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:44am
    - Random T Person
      
      I did and I don’t.
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:52am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Humble Capitalist:
      
      I think Willie Jackson is a weak link too.
      
      Hon Paul Goldsmith: What is the current average wage?
      
      Hon Willie Jackson: At the moment we know what the average wage is, and that MP needs to do some research.
      …
      Hon Paul Goldsmith: So my question to the Minister is: what is his target for increasing the average wage?
      
      Hon Willie Jackson: Our target is to create real jobs with dignity amongst our communities. This is an Opposition that has forgotten a big group of people in New Zealand: the Māori nation and the Pacific Island nation. Shame on you.
      
      Slick Willie got caught out with a non-answer and then played the racism card!
      
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      April 19, 2018 10:07am
      - sooty
        
        Go plant some trees!
        
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        April 19, 2018 10:14am
  - Paulus
    
    Called Piss and Wind.
    
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    April 19, 2018 10:52am
- thedavincimode
  
  I completely affirm your right to express that view but first and foremost I absolutely maintain that the World Health Organisation should validate that position in order to avoid any blatant breach of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The Government cannot allow such assertions to be left unchallenged without absolutely considering alternative measures and is appointing a review panel to be headed by Mr Chris Carter reporting directly to me, the Deputy Prime Minister and the Minister of Health. The panel will work closely with the United Nations and WHO to resolve any issues and de-escalate potential for conflict. The budget will announce an allocation of $500 million of funding for this. As part of the process you will see us continually calling for a multi-lateral approach that will ultimately see the question of chicken salt moving to the WHO and UN.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:38am
Swifty

European Union first secretary and deputy head of mission (to NZ) Eva Tvarozkova doesn’t pay her rent on her Karaka Bay rental, damages the house, signed up for a fixed term lease but quit early, doesn’t turn up to the Tribunal hearing called to resolve matters and now MFAT jumps in to save her….

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12035158

What disgraceful behaviour from those who would lord over us.
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April 19, 2018 8:06am
- cmm
  
  Perhaps a legal wonk might express an informal opinion on this.
  
  I would have thought that diplomatic immunity would only apply to criminal prosecution, not civil.
  
  Otherwise what is there to prevent diplomats from refusing to pay for any goods and services? Walk into a restaurant, have a $2000 meal and just walk out.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:13am
  - Swifty
    
    A good point.
    
    Public shaming is all that’s left I guess – which is why the word needs to spread all over the internet.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:19am
    - Swifty
      
      *future landlords can then see what sort of person she is….
      
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      April 19, 2018 8:22am
    - cmm
      
      “Public shaming…”.
      
      She’s a Leftie. Public shaming a Leftie is called hate speech.
      
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      April 19, 2018 8:46am
    - Chris R
      
      I would hope Nigel Farage gets to learn of this. It won’t be a surprise to him given his familiarity with the dreadful conduct of the EU and its staffers.
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:09am
    - G152
      
      Send them back to their shithole as damaged goods.
      And restrict that Embassy to its building and grounds until some recompense is recieved
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:44am
  - Huevon
    
    My take is that. MFAT owes someone a favour. Maybe the EU bailed out some Kiwi wonk. Who knows?
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:41am
    - sooty
      
      But Communist Cindy and her tagalong are still over there. Maybe it’s so they are allowed in the door?
      
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      April 19, 2018 10:17am
  - srylands
    
    The Vienna Convention provides immunity to diplomats from any civil or criminal prosecution. So yes they can walk out of a restaurant without paying. I guess if such behaviour was a pattern, the government would kick the diplomat out of the country.
    
    BTW I recall 25 years ago when I lived in Canberra there was a high profile case where a Libyan diplomat driving a high end Mercedes t boned a small hatchback carrying 3 teenagers. The kids were all killed, but the diplomat was not seriously injured. He was drunk and travelling at high speed.
    
    The Libyans refused to waive immunity. IIRC they got him back to Libya ASAP.
    
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    April 19, 2018 5:37pm
    - RF
      
      In 1984 there was a demo outside the Libyan Embassy in London.
      
      Police Constable Yvonne Fletcher was outside on the footpath. A Libyan opened fire from an embassy window with a 9mm submachine gun with a projectile hitting Yvonne in the groin. She died on the footpath.
      
      The Libyan was smuggled out of country under diplomatic immunity and I understand was never prosecuted.
      
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      April 19, 2018 6:25pm
- Simon
  
  The parasite repersents the EU what a surprise.
  
  Do MFAT regularly bail out crooks and wasters or is this a one off?
  
  Surely MFAT must publish scum they have bailed out.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:19am
- Justitia
  
  Simple: don’t rent to or extend credit to diplomats. The EU Mission here has a moral obligation to come to an arrangement with the landlords, especially if the diplomat was transferred by Brussels before her term was up. MFAT are only doing what they have to do under the Vienna Convention.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:55am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I agree; MFAT should pay the bill, so that the landlord isn’t out of pocket, and then recover the cash from the EU.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:48am
- Northland Wahine
  
  I would have thought her government would wish to avoid bad public relations and just pay it from the coffers, and dock her from , more than I imagine, her generous salary.
  
  Maybe in future, a years rent up front, again from a diplomats generous salary.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:14am
- Swifty
  
  Update – MFAT have asked that immunity be waived by the EU:
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12035621
  
  Good on the Ministry staff involved.
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:43pm
cmm

Monique promised that Jacinda and Merkel were going to, and I quote, “rub tits”.

No tits were rubbed. Perhaps that is why Merkel looks so disappointed with her stuffed kiwi.
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April 19, 2018 8:06am
- G152
  
  Well, all is not lost.
  She got a stuffed Kiwi from a stuffed kiwi
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:10am
  - rangitoto
    
    Gwant told Cindy the budget is dire. Any presents for your trip will have to be from the $2 shop.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:12am
    - hullkiwi
      
      That is a NZ souvenir made in China.
      
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      April 19, 2018 8:19am
      - Chris2
        
        I see someone has put in an OIA asking for a list of all the official gifts Ardern has presented on her trip to Europe, and how much they cost!
        
        https://fyi.org.nz/request/7653-details-of-gifts-give-by-prime-minister-on-her-visit-to-europe-and-the-uk
        
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        April 19, 2018 8:38am
      - kowtow
        
        RNZ reports her agreeing with the EU about Russia cyber attacks, so she’s fallen somewhat into line.
        
        No mention of Chinese cyber warfare.
        
        Seems at the moment it’s fashionable to be angry at Vlad the Impaler , but the Red Emperor is out of bounds for criticism.
        
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        April 19, 2018 8:45am
      - cmm
        
        Pity the OIA request misses one important question:
        * Country of manufacture of gift.
        
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        April 19, 2018 8:49am
      - rangitoto
        
        “No mention of Chinese cyber warfare.”
        
        At work we have quite a range of Chinese source subnets >> /dev/null
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:54am
      - sooty
        
        The Chinese will have it bugged.
        
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        April 19, 2018 10:21am
  - dime
    
    a stuffed kiwi? could be dodgy.
    
    like, if someone in jacinads entourage wanted to smuggle drugs (to sell or for personal use) they could stuff them in a toy like that!
    
    imagine trying to get your stash back from merkel #heartbreaking
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:47am
    - cmm
      
      The label on the kiwi’s tummy says Made in China. Not Made in Colombia.
      
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      April 19, 2018 8:51am
      - dime
        
        you could cut it open and then sew it up with an everyday household item.. like fishing line
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:05am
      - lifesgood
        
        Yes but you judge a person by the company they keep.
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:06am
    - big bruv
      
      “like, if someone in jacinads entourage wanted to smuggle drugs (to sell or for personal use) they could stuff them in a toy like that!”
      
      And imagine if she knew they were involved in the drug trade and did not say or do anything about it?
      
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      April 19, 2018 1:01pm
      - RF
        
        BB
        
        Let me guess. Would the Commie Chick know anyone who is in the business of drug dealing.
        
        Nah….. well maybe…. Nah…. she would not lie.
        
        Just saw a flight of pigs flying over Lake Taupo.
        
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        April 19, 2018 6:32pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ RF
        
        Just to let you know DPF warned big bruv yesterday that that baseless rumour is getting out of hand and he is contemplating handing out strikes to nip it in the bud. Not many would shed a tear if bb spent time on the naughty chair but while I think you are less than objective about Ardern, I’d still miss your controlled rage that once weilded that Minto bar so…zealously. ?
        
        Place is already all the poorer for missing AgentBallSack.
        
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        April 19, 2018 6:43pm
      - RF
        
        Kimbo.
        
        I had missed that and withdraw my comments – past & present concerning allegations that may cause offence to a 3rd party.
        
        Thank you for the heads up.
        
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        April 19, 2018 10:23pm
- VicParking
  
  Jacinda was saving her tit rubbing for Sadiq Khan.
  See her Photo op with him
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:49am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    There is nothing that he could do to make me want to go to London.
    
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    April 19, 2018 10:26pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Maybe they just bumped belly buttons?
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:13am
Colville

About this time tomorro the tree’o’meter will click over to 50,000,000..

They had better get a planting!
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April 19, 2018 8:07am
- sooty
  
  Hurry up Shane. Twitford needs the timber for houses.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:23am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    He’s building with brick as he is as thick as one
    
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    April 19, 2018 12:17pm
    - Paul Marsden
      
      Wish he was. I own a brick making factory
      
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      April 19, 2018 8:19pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Sorry sooty but Twyford has sent Jones to Australia to find some investors to help fund their promises of trams and rail in Auckland. He know that the regional fuel tax will be lost in the mix before any gets spent on infrastructure.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:57pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Taranaki can pick up the slack.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:44pm
Inandout

Jacinda is spouting on TV about subjects she is ignorant on, be it ‘Russian influence’ or trade. Her constant blinking belies her lying eyes, not EU pollution. My God, what an absolute failure she is.
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April 19, 2018 8:08am
- niggly
  
  Plus her constant use of “umms “and “ahhhs” when answering questions.
  
  Sure maybe one or two would be quite normal, but I’ve never ever heard a PM before consistently use those terms a number of times throughout every sentence spoken.
  
  Good thing Jacinda isn’t a National PM otherwise she would have been mocked by the likes of 7 Days or John Oliver etc!
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:33am
  - Happychappy
    
    Has Winston been called to the Russian Embassy yet to explain what his puppet has portrayed over hacking that is active in NZ.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:25am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Maybe she was taught that during Uni? I am not sure to what benefit though, sounding like you have said more? To fill up what would otherwise be silence. To give time to think?
    
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    April 19, 2018 10:48pm
- Paulus
  
  I am surprised hat she was admitted to the Five Eyes Confidential meeting in London.
  Can she be trusted ?
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:56am
holysheet

Apparently a giant tortoise escaped from the Auckland zoo and got onto the motorway. Drivers were shocked to see something moving past them so fast.
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April 19, 2018 8:08am
G152

Noticed a rugby player in the Chiefs is taking umbrage at another player for echoing the old christian hooha that any-one not doing as they demand the person is going to hell…
He doesn’t want to play against some-one who said something.

Snow flake

Oddly I dont see any-one reminding the world that, indeed, the Chiefs have a little problem with some of their members committing an actual sexual attack on a woman at one of their ‘dos’ and others of his team mates who attempted to hide the crime…

Fake news
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April 19, 2018 8:09am
- Scott
  
  I stand with Israel and Maria Folau on this issue. That homosexuality is a sin is a basic of Christian doctrine for 2 millennia. That all unrepentant sinners are going to hell is also a basic Christian doctrine. So it’s not just homosexuals.
  
  But basically Israel Folau is being constantly attacked for stating his Christian position in response to a question. Now you either believe in free speech or you don’t. The fact of the matter is that free speech is under attack by virtue signalling social justice warriors who hate Christianity and just don’t want to hear it.
  
  We also see the politicisation of sports. Sports now have to be “inclusive” which means accepting the gay agenda. It’s a funny thing about rugby but I would have thought traditionally it was defined as being not gay.
  
  I would like to see sportswriters get back to writing about sports and stay away from gay issues, transgender issues and any other politically correct topics of the day. They just ruin sports for everybody.
  
  I hope Israel and Maria stay strong in their beliefs. I hope everyone realises that free speech is at stake. And I would like to see people rise up and speak against the creeping gay agenda that appears to infect every aspect of New Zealand life.
  
  Gay sex may not be compulsory but approval of gay sex appears to be mandatory. That is such a shame. We cannot have a decent society if we approve of such terrible practices.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:21am
  - BeaB
    
    The other freedom people have fought and died for is freedom of religion. The US was founded on it. It is a basic freedom 0f our system.
    If we don’t like what some people believe let’s have a go at all of them. How about Islam’s approach to gays?
    I suggest the media should not be asking a footballer about his religious beliefs. That’s their business and nothing to do with football.
    I also suggest the media outrage mob stop making such a drama about what individuals think about gays, tattoos or anything else. We are entitled to our beliefs and opinions, however unfashionable or unacceptable to the finger-wagging Marvelly and Mau crowd.
    We are just not allowed to use our own prejudices to discriminate against others in areas like employment.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:46am
    - Anne Glen Eden
      
      Exactly. This Christian persecution is no different to anti-Semitism. Does NZ really choose to become this sort of monster?
      
      But you’re not quite right about the employment. For sports people, this is their employment and the ‘discrimination’ against Christians is being state and socially sponsored – or should I say, by the gay lobby / the MSM.
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:19am
  - James Stephenson
    
    We should at least be consistent. If we’re going to climb into Folau for his (apparently) ridiculous outdated beliefs, then we should also be directing our derision at all those players that like to scribble pictures of crosses on their wrist bandages and point to the sky and whatnot when they score.
    
    If you want to stand up and say you’re an Atheist and it’s all nonsense*, then do so, otherwise quit with the selective virtue-signalling.
    
    *I am, and it is.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:47am
  - VicParking
    
    One also has to remember the question he was asked: “What does God say about” not “What do you say about”
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:53am
    - GoVege
      
      Ah, but God carries more clout than Folau…
      
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      April 19, 2018 12:35pm
  - 4077th
    
    What heartens me the most about this is Folau has told the wilting snowflakes he’s happy to take his game elsewhere and stands by his principals. ARU has shown keen interest in him and good on him if he changes codes. I maintain that if it’s ok for SBW to pray to a pedophile and who’s belief system requires death to homosexuals and oppression of women and yet nobody says a word? Next thing you know it will be illegal to assume someone’s identity and not address them with the correct pronoun..Oh wait…FFS am sick and tired of this virtue signalling bullshit that has infected almost every part of our lives.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:58am
    - G152
      
      Sorry but I have only one tick to give you
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:49am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Folau is entitled to his beliefs, and entitled to express them, but I do not believe Folau’s statement on what the bible says about homosexuality is the issue. It’s what the bible says on the matter that is the problem.
    
    A clever journalist would be asking if Folaus wife is allowed to leave the house without his permission, or as allowed to appear in public or talk to strangers, or if she wears a double veil when outside, as these are all stipulated in the bible.
    
    Is her wife considered unclean during her period for 7 days? Does he touch her during this time lest he be considered unclean as well?
    
    Does Folau play sport on Sunday?
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:05am
    - BeaB
      
      Why should he have to be interrogated on his beliefs? It’s none of the media’s business.
      He’s not in a theology class!
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:10am
      - Right of way is Way of Right
        
        Because he used his beliefs to marginalise homosexuality. Interestingly, being Christian is a choice, being gay isn’t!
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:20am
      - SGA
        
        Because he used his beliefs to marginalise homosexuality.
        
        Has he? If he’d been asked
        “what was gods plan for adulterers??”
        and answered
        “HELL… Unless they repent of their sins and turn to God”
        would we be talking about him marginalising adulterers?
        (reminded of Rowan Atkinson’s Devil welcoming people to hell skit “… my, there are a lot of you, aren’t there”)
        
        opps misremembered
        Fornicators, if you could step forward – my God there are a lot of you. Could I split you up into adulterers and the rest? Adulterers if you could just form a line in front of that small guillotine there.
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:44am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Totally agree. Who was the knob virtue signalling journalist who asked such a question of a sportsman in the first place? Did they set Folau up knowing he was religious, and possibly not quick enough to avoid answering such a personal question. Blame the virtue signalling journo, not the unsuspecting ball player.
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:54am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        he should be, selective theology is just as bad, and if he is picking and choosing which parts of the bible he does respect, and which parts he does not, then the question now becomes, why do you ascribe to the beliefs of this part of scripture and not those parts?
        
        I do acknowledge that he is entitled to his beliefs, and I believe them to be wrong. I would like to debate the issue with him if I could, because I feel his is trapped by his faith, and that the bible, while a good book, has in many ways past it’s best before date.
        
        I do like the don’t kill, don’t steal part, and the golden rule of Christianity, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”, (or, simply put, Don’t be a Dick!). But when people use their faith as a shield for their bigotry, then we should challenge those tenets in the same way we challenge the left extremists when we feel they go too far.
        
        The trick is to separate the person from the behavior, and, to his credit, Folau does not hate homosexuals, he just regards homosexuality as a sin that people should be saved from.
        
        I do not hate Folau for his comments, but I take issue with those beliefs.
        
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        April 19, 2018 10:11am
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        slightlyrighty, LOL
        
        “selective theology is just as bad, and if he is picking and choosing which parts of the bible he does respect, and which parts he does not, then the question now becomes, why do you ascribe to the beliefs of this part of scripture and not those parts?”
        
        “I do like the don’t kill, don’t steal part, and the golden rule of Christianity, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”, (or, simply put, Don’t be a Dick!)… But , then we should challenge those tenets… ” where it suits you.
        
        “I would like to debate the issue with him if I could, because I feel his is trapped by his faith….”
        
        Who made you God – or any other authority? Why are Israel and Maria Folau answerable to you? Why would anyone be?
        
        You mean you want to be an ‘evangelist’ for the gay lobby (or ‘your lobby’) – and while it’s ‘bad’ for Christians to do it because that would be forcibly and offensively trying to ‘save’ you, it’s ‘good’ for you to do it to ‘save’ them from being ‘trapped’.
        
        “Folau does not hate homosexuals, he just regards homosexuality as a sin that people should be saved from.”
        
        Right and wrong. The Folaus do not ‘hate homosexuals’ and have no problem co-existing with them.
        
        They don’t believe people can ‘be saved from’ sin and have in no way implied that they want to ‘save’ anyone. They believe people have the opportunity to save themselves.
        
        They believe in the freedom of personal choice. And unlike you, they don’t foist their views on others unless asked for them.
        
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        April 19, 2018 10:32am
      - GoVege
        
        SGA: Folau couldn’t possibly say that adulterers are going to hell.
        That would mean 96.79% of his fellow Island men.
        This is why they like to divert attention onto gays (the remaining 3.21%)…plus they’re easier to push around.
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:41pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      Perhaps he could say that the New Testament overturned those specific “rules” but not the one that homosexuality is a sin against god.
      
      As a Christian he is not bound to follow the old testaments rules, Pauline doctrine specifically renounced such. So Israel also isn’t required to be circumcised or to follow the dietary rules specified in the OT.
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:57am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Santa called, he wants to know if Folau is being naughty or nice?
      
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      April 19, 2018 10:15am
  - MCos
    
    “That homosexuality is a sin is a basic of Christian doctrine for 2 millennia.”
    
    Not correct.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:12am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Jeepers, someone should tell their Priests then, Catholics or otherwise.
      Tho, whether Catholics are Christian or not is a whole other argument.
      
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      April 19, 2018 10:24am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    The bible also says you shouldn’t eat shellfish, and keeping slaves is perfectly fine. Time moves on, so should the Folaus.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:17am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Please, do have some knowledge of what you claim. Old Testament rules do not apply to Christians unless they wish to follow them voluntarily. Homosexuality is mentioned and condemned in the New Testament, thus it is part of contemporary Christianity unless the person decides not to follow that.
      
      Most Christians do rather pick and select which parts of the original Pauline doctrine to accept. For example most western Protestant churches have accepted women as priests despite Paul’s invocations against that. Similarly many are entirely accepting of homosexuality. Folau’s view would be the more “traditional” one that being a homosexual is not a sin at all, but practising as one is.
      
      And if as a Christian one believes in Hell, then any unrepentant sinner for any sin ends up there. However one can repent at any time – the Catholics even have a special ceremony for the same. One can repent and sin again, and repent and sin, etc. it’s the final repentance that matters in this belief set.
      
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      April 19, 2018 10:18am
      - Kimbo
        
        You are a bit simplistic about the application of Old Testament law, and also overlook that there are differences between Christians. So for example, the two greatest Reformers took different positions:
        
        Martin Luther: all Old Testament law has been abrogated for Christians unless specifically endorsed in the New Testament
        
        John Calvin: all of the Old Testament law still applies for Christians, unless specifically abrogated in the New Testament.
        
        Hence, Luther and Calvin both agreed what is designated as the “ceremonial law” of the Torah such as circumcision, ablutions and dietary prohibitions do not apply.
        
        Also, they agreed that it is not obedience to the law that bestows God’s righteousness/approval. Also, they agreed that what are termed the first two uses of the Mosaic law still apply:
        
        1. To bring one to a knowledge of one’s sin, in order to induce repentance and availing oneself of Christ’s mercy
        
        2. As the basis of Civil law (bear in mind they lived and only conceived of Christendom as the model for Western government).
        
        However, Luther did not agree with Calvin that the law of Moses, properly interpreted in the light of Christ’s teaching, is a useful and necessary guide for Christian sanctified living.
        
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        April 19, 2018 10:38am
      - Kimbo
        
        But you are right in terms of the seemingly arbitrary way ordinary Christians, without the formal purpose or wisdom of a Luther or Calvin pick and choose to quote the Old Testament law such as with sexual practices, but don’t bat an eyelid earning income from interest. How come that is deemed “ceremonial”, and not “moral”, or “civil” (indeed it is all three)? I’m presuming with his large salary Israel Folau has a sizeable bank balance earning a tidy sum of interest. Would be interesting to see if his understanding of “God’s plan” is consistent in terms of application of both Old and New Testament ethics. But only up to 140 characters in a tweet. ?
        
        And yes, if the New Testament was just applied as it is written, there would have been no Christian abolitionist movement against slavery.
        
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        April 19, 2018 11:02am
      - rangitoto
        
        “So for example, the two greatest Reformers took different positions:
        
        Martin Luther: all Old Testament law has been abrogated for Christians unless specifically endorsed in the New Testament…….”
        
        I wouldn’t put Luther on any sort of pedestal given his anti-semitic views. He would have been a major fan of Hitler if he was around in the 1930’s.
        
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        April 19, 2018 11:30am
      - Kimbo
        
        Luther and the Nazis. Ho hum. Not only do you win the Godwin’s Prize, you also get a triple ord score for the historic anachronism.
        
        And just because Luther was right on many things, doesn’t mean he couldn’t be horrendously wrong on some thing. Just as Calvin approved of Servetus being burned at the stake. Or whole centuries of giants on whose shoulders we stand approved of the fact that homosexuality was a crime, practiced slavery, thought a woman’s proper station was only in the home…
        
        “The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there”.
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:05pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Plus Luther helped create the modern world with its liberties and socially egalitarian benefits we take for granted with doctrines such as
        
        The priesthood of all believers (so clergy ultimately have no special status)
        
        The authority of Scripture (so the Pope and the church can be wrong, and it is possible to ignore them)
        
        The Protestant work ethic (so one can live a fulfilled and productive life in non-ecclesiastical vocation)
        
        The Scriptures and all teaching in the vulgar tongue (so education is readily available and understandable for all)
        
        But hey, if you don’t value the downstream benefits that accrued, and would have been much more difficult without Luther and his courage to risk death initiating his initially-unintended Reformation, and you reckon he doesn’t belong on a pedestal courtesy of his scurrilous yet context-derived anti-Semitism
        
        …go for it. Personally, I think that makes as much sense as denying gravity and he three laws of thermodynamics because Sir Isaac Newton also tried to discover the secret of alchemy, or biblical numerology.
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:16pm
      - rangitoto
        
        “Plus Luther helped create the modern world with its liberties and socially egalitarian benefits we take for granted with doctrines such as..”
        
        Yeah Kimbo he was just a wonderful chap:
        
        “First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools … This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians …”
        “Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed.”
        “Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them.”
        “Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb …”
        “Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside …”
        “Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them …”
        “Seventh, I recommend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow … But if we are afraid that they might harm us or our wives, children, servants, cattle, etc., … then let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain, Bohemia, etc., … then eject them forever from the country …”
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:26pm
      - GoVege
        
        Ed: But what if you’re on your way to repent and get run over by a truck?
        Do you still go to hell?
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:44pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ rangitoto
        
        You seem to imply I am disputing Luther wrote that much less I’m attempting to be an apologist for his anti-Semitism. ?
        
        Mind you Luther also wrote similar stuff about peasants who revolted, Anabaptists, the papacy, Italians, Humanists, every other Reformer except Melanchthon. The guy had the weight of the world on his shoulders, and turned into an irascible and intemperate old Kraut bastard if anyone disagreed with him on anything, be it consubstantiation, justification by faith, the marriage of clergy…
        
        Plus you have to even the scales slightly with the barn yard humour in his writings and table talk. ?
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:53pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        Kimbo, one has to simplify, and the positions of all modern Christians are at odds with what Jesus actually probably preached anyway. Christianity evolved from what Paul preached and was at odds with those who had actually listened to Jesus preach, like Peter.
        
        But on homosexuality, Christianity followed Paul, it’s not an OT exclusive thing.
        
        Go Vege, repentance as I understand it (and I’m no theologician) comes from the heart, so if you genuinely intended to repent then the formal declaration is not necessary. And since it is “God” who judges, then presumably the real truth is known.
        
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        April 19, 2018 10:47pm
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    This was an out and out racist attack on Christianity.
    
    It’s well know that Folau is an Islander bible-basher. Libtards hate the fact that the PI community has been abandoning their ranks in droves in favour of the more tolerant right.
    
    There was only one answer that could be expected to such an obvious “gotcha” question when it was put to Folau. He was only ever going to say something that was bound to upset the fucked in the head “offenderati”.
    
    I’m looking forward to when the same cocks ask SBW his views on gays and whether there will be the same media and offenderati pile-on in the case of a devout muslim expressing his personal views on gays. (Yeah that’s right, it’ll be a cold day in hell before that happens).
    
    This is an attack on all of the PI community and an attack on Christianity. And what the Folau’s are suffering right now is the textbook definition of bullying and racism. It’s ugly, it’s cultural marxism in all it’s execrable ugliness, it’s divide and conquer and it’s evil and I hope those who started this burn in the fires of hell for eternity.
    
    (Personally, I think it’s a shame an adult like Folau believes in a sky fairy and I think gays are just people with different preferences to non-gays and there will be no divine punishment for that. But I believe Folau is the victim here and him and his wife should be left the hell alone)
    
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    April 19, 2018 10:14am
    - Kimbo
      
      This is an out and out racist attack on Christianity…This is an attack on all of the PI community and an attack on Christianity
      
      All?!
      
      But, but, but…whenever someone reported in the media or here claims that Islamophobia is racism against Muslims…there is a flurry of posts, and a forest of upticks on Kiwiblog with the obfuscation
      
      “since when did Islam or Muslim become a race?” ?
      
      Today? As per Simon and Garfunkel, “the sound of silence…” ?
      
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      April 19, 2018 10:46am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        See GoVege below. She/he/it seems to think it IS an attack on the PI community and Christianity.
        
        Where there’s one socialist bully, there’s a legion of ’em.
        
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        April 19, 2018 11:52am
      - Kimbo
        
        @DifferentPerspective
        
        So
        
        PI + Christian = racism
        
        Middle Eastern + Muslim… “since when is Islam/Muslim a race?”
        
        And since when has GoVege been anything but a moron with 101 axes to grind, and whose simplistic views and over-generalised opinions be it against religion, men, Maori, PIs, meat-eating, whatever…are best ignored?! I mean, come on, what about fa’a’fa’fine?! ?
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:27pm
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        I’m giving you an uptick on that Kimbo just for the most perfect of descriptions of GoVege
        
        And you illustrated exactly what the concern is for me.
        
        Socialist: Attacking a PI Christian for having the utterly predictable views on homosexuality = perfectly OK because he’s PI and Christian
        
        Socialist: Attacking a PI Muslim for having utterly predictable views on homosexuality = outrageous xenophobic, intolerant, racist hate speech.
        
        Are you arguing that the socialists view of the world is fair and reasonable?
        
        When you attack an icon of a community it is an attack on the community! It was a set-up of Folau. He was the target and the PI community were intended to be made to feel ashamed of views that are mainstream in that community. The PI/Polynesian community are a racial cohort. Therefore it was a racist attack.
        
        I agree, if you point out the evils of a violent cult masquerading as a religious ideology (and the appalling behaviour of it’s followers) then it can’t be racism. I’d describe that as “anti-vile-cultism” or “being sensible” .
        
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        April 19, 2018 2:15pm
      - GoVege
        
        FYI, Kimbo, my fellow “moron”, fa’afafines have a very high suicide rate in Samoa.
        There was even a picture of one who had hanged themself on the cover of a PI newspaper not long ago.
        How do you know I’m “over-generalizing”.
        Why don’t you put on a dress or walk hand in hand with another dude here or in the Islands and see how you get on?
        I used to think you were capable of a reasoned argument if you disagreed with someone, but I guess it’s always easier to sling insults…
        
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        April 19, 2018 3:16pm
      - GoVege
        
        DP and Kimbo:
        I know it’s hard when others criticize your meat addiction.
        But if there’s something wrong with my arguments against it, why don’t you boys go hand in hand together to the nearest “meat-works” and watch some fellow mammals being pushed and shoved to their deaths.
        Then tell me how I over-generalized that killing animals is not cruel?
        Or do you Einsteins consider yourselves a superior, different life form to “other” animals?
        
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        April 19, 2018 3:33pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ GoVege
        
        Yet fa’a’fa’fines are an accepted part of Island culture…even with the wholesale adoption of Christianity (often without formal colonisation) by Pacific Island communities. So therefore, and in contradiction to your lazy over-generalisation that religion, let alone external social pressure is the reason for the high suicide rate among fa’a’fa’fine, or LGBT in other non-PI communities
        
        …maybe, just maybe there is something inherent in the genetic make up of those groups that makes them more likely to commit suicide. In which case, blaming religion is a harmful misdiagnosis, when there may be more fruitful ways to reduce that suicide rate than the tenuous connection that sees some blaming the likes of…Israel Folau.
        
        Now, there’s a reasoned argument that calls into question the premises on which your prejudices are built. Let’s see what you do with it. Ball in your court…
        
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        April 19, 2018 3:34pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ GoVege
        
        Can’t speak for DifferentPerspective, but as a Christian, yes, I believe humans are created in the image of God, and are therefore “superior” to animals in some/many respects, and therefore they are prospective food four us. If you knew as much as you claim to know about religion, you would have anticipated that instead of asking a moronic rhetorical question, devoid of reason and based on nothing but your own personal sentiments. Hence you confirm why I called you a moron.
        
        Also, because you assume I have a meat addiction, you confirm why I called you a moron.
        
        Also, because you assume I have not and would not view a slaughterhouse and then eat the meat, you confirm why I called you a moron.
        
        That you assume I do not support the humane slaughter of animals, confirms why I called you a moron.
        
        So starting to figure out why I called you…a moron?
        
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        April 19, 2018 3:49pm
      - GoVege
        
        It was you not me who brought up the subject of meat-eating, Kimbo.
        Why do you believe humans are “made in the image of God”?
        Because some person 2 millenia ago when it was widely believed the earth was flat, said so?
        What about all the scientific discoveries made since?
        Do you deny that humans are another primate like chimpanzees and gorillas?
        I don’t think you are a Christian even if you think you are.
        Christians are supposed to follow the golden rule “do unto others…etc” aren’t they?
        I don’t go around calling people names (to their face anyway) because I don’t want to hurt their feelings.
        The same reason I try not to eat other animals.
        
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        April 19, 2018 6:48pm
      - GoVege
        
        Do you really consider that a “reasoned argument”, Kimbo, that it is more likely that there could be something inherent in the genetic makeup of gays that make them more likely to commit suicide?
        Being told that they are going to hell just for being who they are, having a long history of being persecuted, rejected, beaten and generally abused is unlikely to have anything to do with it?
        I know heaps of “fa’afafines” and believe me they do their best to hide their sexual orientation especially to their older relatives.
        Once I rang a Samoan family on a Sunday, forgetting they would be at church.
        Their gay daughter answered and explained she can’t go to their church because her uncle (the minister) always beats her up.
        Fortunately her parents accept her (it helps they live in Australia.)
        Fortunately also that we have enlightened Pacific Island leaders like Sir Michael Jones who are prepared to speak out in support of bullied minorities in their society.
        
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        April 19, 2018 7:14pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ GoVege
        
        I didn’t so much bring up the subject of meat-eating, more mentioned it in a catalogue of subjects where your opinion is not worth considering. That you can’t tell the difference confirms why I called you a moron.
        
        That you ask me a dumb question like “Why do you believe humans are “made in the image of God?””….when I’d already told you (I’m a Christian, and that is our orthodox doctrine) confirms why I called you a moron.
        
        That you have ignored my discussions with Scott on the interaction of biblical faith and science and presume, incorrectly yet again, that I consider the Bible a science text book confirms why I called you a moron.
        
        That you ask me if I consider Homo sapiens primates like chimpanzees and gorillas when, by very definition of the word “primate” they are confirms why I called you a moron.
        
        That you assume that because you state your position on anything – religion, vegetarianism whatever – and that should be sufficient to settle the matter…with someone with a different epistemology confirms why I called you a moron.
        
        That you consider I have broken the golden rule at the drop of a hat, when others have had to exercise longsuffering concerning your sanctimonious trolling, guilt-laden leading questions and passive aggressive posts confirms hey I called you a moron.
        
        That you think that not calling others names in some way means you are no longer a moron confirms why I called you a moron.
        
        That the fact that you won’t even consider the possibility (I introduced it with the term, “maybe, just maybe…”) that fa’a’fa’fine and the LGBT community have higher suicide rates because of inherent genetic factors (even though current orthodoxy indicates there may be a gay gene!) because it is beyond your plausibility/existing prejudice structure, and you resort to personal anecdote (the weakest form of evidence to support a generalised theory that social disapproval is the primary driver of suicide) confirms why I called you a moron.
        
        That you assume/imply that I in some way endorse or approv of the mistreatment of those who are LGBT confirms why I called a moron.
        
        That you assume
        
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        April 19, 2018 7:43pm
      - Kimbo
        
        That you assume I too don’t have anecdotes of violence against friends who are PI, or that I am unaware of the drivers of violence in the PI community, including misguided religious attitudes confirms why I called you a moron.
        
        As bad as that abuse is, that you still can’t distinguish it from potential (note the meaning of that word!) genetic factors that maybe, just maybe (note that phrase again!) are a greater factor in the high suicide rates of fa’a’fa’fine among the P I community, and also LGBT in other communities confirms why I called you a moron.
        
        Now, reviewing that catalogue above, a rough count tells me at least half of those were generated due to your wilful proclivity to make assumptions about others when you have no reasonable justification. Therefore, rather than remain entirely negative, I offer you the constructive suggestion- assume less, and you will reduce by some 50% the occasion for others to conclude you are a moron.
        
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        April 19, 2018 8:07pm
      - GoVege
        
        Kimbo: this forum is called “General Debate”, not “General Insults”.
        People who cannot debate the merits of an argument and resort to insulting the intelligence or any other attribute of the other person, are probably not capable of debate, or are afraid of where rational discussion might lead.
        I have never “claimed” to have any particular interest in religion.
        The only time I get interested in it is when it is used to infringe on the rights of others.
        “I am an orthodox Christian” is not an answer to a question.
        It is merely an excuse to avoid debate because one is unable to use reason on a subject.
        It is not even true because you claim to follow a person whose whole life and example was devoted to improving the quality of life for humans and did not lower Himself to putting others down.
        Your behaviour here is typical of most people I have met in my life who claim to be “Christians” but are anything but.
        BTW, I interact with human beings on a daily basis who used to be classified as “morons” and “idiots”.
        They are lovely people, nothing like the rude, aggressive, unpleasant individuals I have met over my lifetime calling themselves “Christians”.
        So if you enjoy calling anyone you can’t debate with a “moron”, feel free.
        Better than being a fake “Christian.”
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:18pm
      - Kimbo
        
        “I am an orthodox Christian” is not an answer to a question
        
        It is, if the question is (as you asked at 6:48PM)
        
        why do you believe humans are “made in the image of God”?
        
        I mean, seriously, your inability to follow the thread of a discussion where you are issuing interrogations and getting answers that address them directly and honestly means, by any reasonable standard, you are a moron. And you deserve to be called out as such for wasting others’ time. I gave you the courtesy of considering your inquiry, answered it honestly, and you are so careless, an enamoured to your own way of thinking, you can’t even see…it hits the nail on the head.
        
        Now, note (and I’m having to say this because you are a moron) I’m not saying you have to agree. Indeed, I know you don’t. Fair enough.
        
        But if you don’t like the answer…don’t ask the question in the first place. Yet more confirmation why I consider you a moron, and not deserving of the usual courtesies of polite discourse. And I think if you research a bit more, you will find Jesus was not kind to those who did not listen or read carefully, were wilfully ignorant and presumptuous. Indeed, he called them “fools”, otherwise known as…morons.
        
        Also, you say you only get involved in discussion about religion when it infringes the rights of others. But that can be true of Israel Folau. He has infringed no one’s rights. There is no right not to be offended. There is no right to freedom from some religious idiot claimingyour lifestyle will condemn you to hell. So yet again, because you can’t properly define and apply “rights”,…you confirm why I called you a moron.
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:44pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Oh, yes, and the fact you utilised a false dichotomy- it’s possible to both debate the merits of an argument (and I believe I’ve bent over backwards telling you the many reasons why I consider you a moron, including your overuse of presumption) and also insult at the same time – confirms yet again why I consider you a moron.
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:52pm
      - GoVege
        
        Israel has not merely “offended”, he has committed hate-speech by telling a certain minority of people that they will burn in hell for their choice of partner.
        Many people. ..especially in the Islands…have been brainwashed since birth that hell really exists so this is truly frightening for them.
        Even if they don’t believe that cr*p, it is still a way of isolating them and subjecting them to rejection and abuse.
        If you asked me why I believe we shouldn’t kill and eat other animals, I wouldn’t merely say “because I’m an orthodox vegetarian”.
        Saying you are an orthodox Christian /vegetarian/Muslim /whatever, is really saying you are letting someone else do your thinking for you.
        You really don’t know why you believe something or you would say why.
        Or you do know…because you CAN/ don’t care, etc…but won’t admit it.
        You use a lot of emotive language: “interrogate”, “sanctimonious “, “passive-aggressive”, “guilt-laden” (besides the oft-repeated “moron”).
        It sounds like I may have stirred up a lot of emotions in you.
        I haven’t done it deliberately.
        I am just pointing out the reality for victims of homophobia (and meat-eating).
        The reason you feel angry is no doubt the twinge of guilt you feel, despite your orthodox beliefs, at the harm your conscience tells you you are doing.
        
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        April 19, 2018 11:33pm
      - Kimbo
        
        That you continue to presume I am angry or have a troubled conscience because you think you have in some way challenged my faith confirms why I consider you a moron.
        
        That you overlook the fact that I initially said I consider your opinion on nearly everything, not just religion, as worthless, confirms why I consider you a moron.
        
        That you cannot distinguish the opinions of a conservative Christian idiot, as tactless and in poor taste as they may have been, from genuine hate speech confirms why I consider you a moron.
        
        That you consider, courtesy of the fact I am an orthodox Christian, that I am brainwashed and I let other people do my thinking for me confirms you are, yet again, presuming. You know nothing about why I believe, how my beliefs have changed over time, the basis for that change, and the means I use to challenge them. As you wilfully continue to presume, when that failing has already been pointed out to yourepeatedly in his thread, confirms why I consider you a moron.
        
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        April 20, 2018 12:02am
      - Kimbo
        
        You really don’t know why you believe something or you would say why.
        
        …but I have – I am an orthodox Christian, so I believe orthodox Christian doctrine, including that human beings of all creatures that God made are “created in the image of God. And yes, I believe I can give a more detailed explanation of why I believe that is also a reasonable belief, irrespective of your feelz… but in your case I deem it a waste of time to share that with you because it would be, IMHO, casting pearls before swine. Or , to put that another way, I consider you a moron.
        
        That you are too obtuse and lacking in critical awareness and self-awareness to recognise that comments such as:
        
        I don’t go around calling people names (to their face anyway) because I don’t want to hurt their feelings.
        The same reason I try not to eat other animals.
        
        …and:
        
        It sounds like I may have stirred up a lot of emotions in you.
        I haven’t done it deliberately.
        The reason you feel angry is no doubt the twinge of guilt you feel, despite your orthodox beliefs, at the harm your conscience tells you you are doing.
        
        …are perfect examples of “sanctimonious “, “passive-aggressive”, and “guilt-laden” confirms why I called you a moron. And trust me on that one, because ion Christian circles we get all manner of sanctimonious “, “passive-aggressive”, and “guilt-laden”…morons.
        
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        April 20, 2018 12:45am
      - GoVege
        
        Kimbo: I only call people insulting names like “moron” when I’m really angry, so I have to assume that either you’re just very rude, or I’m making you angry.
        It has to be one or the other surely.
        Life is full of assumptions, Kimbo.
        Assumptions are how us brainy apes have managed to take over the planet from less cerebral animals.
        I’m sorry if I’ve upset you by questioning your daft “orthodox Christian” beliefs.
        But that’s how our species has survived, by questioning things.
        (Despite the best efforts of thick Christians, Muslims and other subscribers to nonsensical belief systems.)
        Good night.
        
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        April 20, 2018 1:37am
    - GoVege
      
      Folau is not “the victim” here, DP.
      The victims are all those thousands of gay Pacific Islanders who are bashed, abused and driven to suicide for being gay.
      Like most conservative Christians, Pacific Islanders ignore all the real crimes in their community such as wife and child bashing and blatant adultery by the males, while reserving all their venom for gays.
      They need to be challenged.
      
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      April 19, 2018 11:12am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        So .. they’re just as bad as socialists then.
        
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        April 19, 2018 11:49am
      - fernglas
        
        For a male to commit adultery, there needs to be a female (unless the adulterer is gay)
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:13pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Repent unbelievers! for I am here to bore you to tears.
      
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      April 19, 2018 3:45pm
  - JasonJohns
    
    and in uganda the president is under fore for making the same point in regard to heterosexuals
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/ugandas-president-wants-ban-oral-sex-mouth-eating-v1
    
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    April 19, 2018 10:19am
  - GoVege
    
    “Terrible practices”, Scott?
    How do gay people harm the rest of the population “terribly “?
    Do they go around “straight-bashing” and giving innocent heterosexuals brain damage?
    Do they prevent heterosexuals from holding hands in public through the threat of violence?
    There is no “gay agenda”, Scott.
    There is just a section of society which has been subjected to abuse and violence for millenia trying to claim their human rights.
    
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    April 19, 2018 10:47am
    - Anne Glen Eden
      
      GoVege, you’re either telling blatant lies or very, very naive.
      
      To start with, I assumed Scott was talking about the ‘mandatoriness’ of approval as being a terrible practice which will destroy any decency in society – and it is. But I could be wrong.
      
      But go read, “The Glass Closet: Why Coming Out Is Good Business”.
      
      That contains a whole ‘agenda’, a formal global network for installing gays in business (especially in ‘anti-gay’ countries), holding special ‘meet the Board’ meetings for gays, etc., and formal group support for those there already between corporates.
      
      It also includes things like heterosexuals should be discouraged from talking about their spouses and children, especially at work, because gays can’t compete and it makes them feel bad. God forbid that this might cause any sense of commonality or bonding between staff.
      
      Let alone the obvious ‘agenda’ in the MSM currently targeting the Folaus.
      
      Just how many heterosexuals have been ‘subjected to abuse and violence for millenia trying to claim their human rights’? There is nothing special about gays.
      
      No-one should be subjected to abuse and violence – including Christians.
      
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      April 19, 2018 11:02am
      - Kimbo
        
        But Scott does think homosexuality should be re- criminalised. Now, I know you are fond of alleging that Christians in the NZ and Australian context are “persecuted”, but doesn’t criminalising an activity count, maybe even advocating for criminalisation count as persecution?
        
        Here I’ll help you clarify, by putting the shoe on the other foot:
        
        “~~Homosexuality~~ Christianity should be illegal”.
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:38pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        Who are you arguing against, Kimbo?
        
        I’ve never thought homosexuality should be criminalised – before or after the law change.
        
        Having said that, given the extent of abusive power (and growing) of the gay lobby, to disrupt everything from the most basic right to personal freedom, basic social institutions such as ‘marriage’ and ‘family’, to inspiring real conflict in places like Russia and Turkey et al – I can see why and how a need for such law may have arisen – and why it may arise again.
        
        I’ve said before, there’s only one way to stop such abuse and it’s to stop the cycle of abuse. But power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely – so round and round the circle we go.
        
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        April 19, 2018 1:24pm
      - GoVege
        
        Dear Anne: do please tell me the name of ONE single person in all of history who has been tortured/murdered/driven to suicide/imprisoned FOR BEING HETEROSEXUAL.
        Name an Oscar Wilde or Alan Turing of the heterosexual community.
        
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        April 19, 2018 3:25pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        GoVege, you are really are obsessed with your own ‘victimhood’. I have no idea why you think the suffering of Oscar Wilde or Alan Turing is any different from anyone else’s.
        
        One of the things about Christianity is that it focuses on the real problem – the psychopathic malevolent and malicious abuser/torturer/murderer/jailer who has the power to inflict pain and suffering and uses it.
        
        The latter can give any excuse – they don’t like your race, religion, politics, gender, clothing, …. It’s always essential to them that they must ‘save you from yourself’ by forcing you to comply with their will or destroy you – some just enjoy inflicting pain on others.
        
        Christianity has always sought to bring individuals to awareness of their ‘real’ self and invite them to change, to treat other people as ‘their neighbour’ and/or be ‘their brother’s keeper’.
        
        Kimbo has often (I think unconsciously) reflected this when he says that Christianity did not seek to ban slavery – except I think he sees that as some sort of ‘oversight’ on God’s part or a more primitive time.
        
        Christianity didn’t seek to ban slavery et al – because that isn’t the problem. Christ refused political revolution outright. There will always be some people with more and some with less; there will always be ‘tax collectors’ and ‘tax payers’; there will always be gender differences, etc. Christ exhorted people to treat others with respect and dignity, no matter their ‘station’ in life, no matter the type of State they live in.
        
        It’s a humanist distortion of Christianity that focuses on ‘victimhood’ because Christ did not. He always focused on the individual taking responsibility for themselves to treat other people kindly, justly, fairly, etc which he did himself. It is within the self that the problem arises.
        
        No amount of victim groups is going to cure the problem because they just take their turn as abusers when they get power – as the gay lobby is now. And as all abusers everywhere, they claim they’re justified in doing it, for all manner of reasons, and refuse to hold themselves accountable or responsible for treating others with dignity and respect.
        
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        April 19, 2018 3:57pm
      - GoVege
        
        Anne : just can’t give a straight (so to speak) answer, can you girl?
        Millions of gay people, mostly males, have died due to homophobia.
        You can’t name a single person, because there is none, who has been persecuted for being heterosexual.
        “Victimhood” is just a nasty little term that bullies in the majority thought up to blame the victims of crimes and abuse.
        They did the same during WW2, blaming Jews for not fighting back hard enough against the Nazis.
        I am sure Jesus accepted everyone for themselves.
        Such a lovely person could have been gay himself.
        It’s just the twisted dorks who followed him who turned love and acceptance to cruelty and abuse.
        
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        April 19, 2018 5:58pm
      - nasska
        
        Few have put it better than Mahatma Gandhi:
        
        ….”I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”…..
        
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        April 19, 2018 6:10pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        You really are a victim of humanism, GoVege.
        
        “I am sure Jesus accepted everyone for themselves. Such a lovely person could have been gay himself.”
        
        Jesus Christ accepted everyone as having the right to make their own choice and guaranteed forgiveness and acceptance for those who chose to believe in Him. He is not a SNAG or a ‘Jacinda’.
        
        He had very clear standards expected of the those with power, insisted that people be told the truth and able to make informed choices. Jesus is the personification of Love – and reacts as any angry ‘father’ would at attacks on His ‘children’.
        
        “Truly I say to you, Unless you convert and become as the little children, not at all can you enter into the kingdom of Heaven. Then whoever will humble himself as this little child, this one is the greater in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever will receive one such little child in My name receives Me. But whoever causes one of these little ones believing in Me to offend, it is better for him that a millstone turned by an ass be hung on his neck, and he be sunk in the depth of the sea.”
        
        He said to the religious leaders of the day, who were teaching falsely:
        
        “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithes of mint and dill and cummin, and you have left aside the weightier matters of the Law: judgment, and mercy, and faith. It was right to do these, and not to have left those aside.
        
        Serpents! Offspring of vipers! How shall you escape the judgment of Hell? Because of this, behold, I send to you prophets and wise ones and scribes. And some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will flog in your synagogues and will persecute from city to city; so that should come on you all the righteous blood poured out on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Berechiah whom you murdered between the Holy Place and the altar.”
        
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        April 19, 2018 7:18pm
Happychappy

Another day in politics with the sweet cheeks trying to justify his and Labour’s lies in stressing National under fund every thing that Labour promised and It gets worse every day. This is after the latest Colmar Bruton Poll says 30% of NZ’s want Health to fixed first.
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April 19, 2018 8:10am
- 4077th
  
  Perhaps Joyces’ prediction that Grant’s hole is a lot bigger than he has noticed has a ring of truth? 🙂
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:01am
  - G152
    
    Is it large enough to drive a bus through?
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:51am
Nostradamus

$300m Auckland housing project in doubt

A $300 million scheme to fast-track 6200 new houses in Auckland’s northwest is facing financial challenges and could be canned. … [A] report going to Auckland Council’s governing body meeting today says rising infrastructure costs and developers not being able to fund their portion means the scheme may not proceed.
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This is the second Government scheme to help Auckland’s housing crisis that is coming unstuck. Last month, the Herald reported that a $600m scheme to bring forward 23,300 new houses in the north and south of the city is making little progress.

Oh dear… is that what’s politely called a “crisis” in political circles?
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April 19, 2018 8:12am
- hullkiwi
  
  With such levels of failure, is it any wonder Twitford is turning his ministerial attentions to Transport? Is this an attempt to hide the fact that he:
  1. Shouted there was a housing crisis (in other words cried “wolf”);
  2. Promised 10,000 KiwiBuild homes per year for 10 years & has built zero in 6 months.
  
  The man is a failure.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:02am
- 4077th
  
  And the common thread falls firmly at the feet of Auckland Council complaining they can’t afford it. Did’t see that coming did you Twatford..or did you?
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:09am
- Yvette
  
  So this is $ 300 million funded from the Government’s $1 billion Housing Infrastructure Fund to build new roads and water infrastructure
  If the $ 600 million also mentioned is from the same fund, $ 100 million is left.
  It is said Unitec may need $ 500 million for similar work.
  Is the Government $ 400 million short already on three projects?
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:12am
  - 4077th
    
    Thank you Yvette, you demonstrated my point very clearly. The fact that no money is mentioned when Twatford announced the plans and similarly, the council does not mention cost for these developments in jeopardy is a clear sign Tawtford has no clue about any of the costings from start to finish. It seems he is fishing for costings by gauging the complaints.
    
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    April 19, 2018 11:34am
- Happychappy
  
  Nostra Twyford could approach his mentor Hugh to come and sort the problem out, as you never know the advice Hugh gave might be just like his posts here copy and paste.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:57am
artemisia

A few rather important words buried in today’s Herald article “$300m Auckland housing project in doubt”.

…developers not being able to fund their portion means the scheme may not proceed.

6200 new homes at Whenuapai in doubt, with the council also under cost pressure.

That does not augur well for future developments, especially if developers are relying on overseas funding. Several developers went to the wall in the GFC when they could not get funding.

It is also a problem for the government coffers if they have to step in to get projects up and running, or alternatively pour money into social housing to make up some of the shortfall. Or both.

Good news though for landlords who elect to stay in the market. Higher rents and an increasing pool of excellent potential tenants.
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April 19, 2018 8:13am
- Viking2
  
  There is no great demand for houses. House sales have gone quiet.
  
  Just as well no one can finance anymore for the moment. Banks have been burnt before. Yeh.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:18am
VicParking

There is a photo in this article that that sums up Jacinda to a tee. While in London she visited a school, not a surprise, with Justin Trudeau and Sadiq Khan for a series of selfies with children.
A real Huey, Luey and Duey moment.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5629901/London-Mayor-Sadiq-Khan-gets-touchy-feely-Canadian-prime-minster-Justin-Trudeau.html
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April 19, 2018 8:13am
- cmm
  
  “Sadiq Kahan gets touchy-feely”. Shiver.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:16am
  - Paulus
    
    Murder rate in London now higher than New York !
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:22am
  - Wangas Feral
    
    In Rotheram it was called something else.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:25am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Couple of points, It’s Rotherham not Rotheram; and
      Alongside Stockport, Cindy could go see real poverdee & what the phrase “broken Britain” means.
      
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      April 19, 2018 8:30am
      - Wangas Feral
        
        I am a wangas feral, so I dropped an “haitch”. Shoot me now.
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:29am
  - VicParking
    
    She was just making up for not tit rubbing with Merkel.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:56am
- Inandout
  
  And one comment on this trio sums it up brilliantly:
  
  Khan, Trudeau and Ardern…The holy trinity of ineptitude.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:20am
  - RalphT
    
    Also doing a good impression of the Three Stooges.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:32am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Another start to a bad joke
    Three idiots go into a school………
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:16am
- softail 1450
  
  Vicparking,,,OMG if a person was suffering from constipation that load of shite photos would be guaranteed to get things moving .
  what has happened to our western society when such lefty male feminist crap is running our country’s .
  for that London mayor to mention feminism is a shocker ,in his religion feminine is banned and being a noisey feminist is likely to get you thrown off a high building along with all your gay friends FFS.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:32am
- niggly
  
  Well at least Trudeau didn’t turn up to the Mayor’s office wearing a long white robe with coloured headscarf I guess!
  
  Although if he did I suspect unlike the Indians, Sadiq Khan would have praised him for his support of diversity & held his hand (in brotherly friendship of course)!
  
  So, ooops, Trudeau got his virtue signalling wrong – “damn” he says!
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:42am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Was it a charter school?
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:49am
  - VicParking
    
    They shipped the Childern into Londons Town Hall as it was to dangerous for Justin and Jacinda to travel to them at their schools. Also she would have had to wear a Burga and Justin a thawb.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:08am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      “Also she would have had to wear a Burga and Justin a thawb”
      or vise versa
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:17am
- RF
  
  Our accidental PM admits to suffer from anxiety and self doubt. To stay within her comfort zone she surrounds herself with syncophants and fluffy toys.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:07am
Poppa

So our princess was gushing about future trade with UK following brexit, apparently her conversation with Theresa May had gone swimmingly well.

And then I hear that the parliament had voted to keep within the EU customs union meaning they will continue to trade with EU.

God she is an embarrassment to us all
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April 19, 2018 8:13am
hullkiwi

We now have it on record. Twitford on Red Radio, “This government will not indulge in pork barrel politics like the last government.”
So questions to Twitford:
1. What is Shane boy going to spend his $1billion a year on;
2. How can you then promise the unnecessary tram set to Auckland; and
3. You said you can’t tell NZTA what to spend it’s allocation on. Then how can you tell it to spend it on SkyPath?

Like Taxcinda, you are an inconsistent lying incompetent. You are so lacking, you even used the same words as she does in your interview. “Absolutely understand.”
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April 19, 2018 8:14am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Not pork barrel politics???
  There’s more pork in their budget than a bacon factory
  $1bill regional fund
  1000’s of new state houses
  Students free…..everything
  Unions being all but guaranteed members
  etc etc
  The only thing on the menu is pork
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:47am
cmm

“incompetence” or deliberate deception?

With this power-at-any-cost mob, I put my money on the latter, but only by a nose.
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April 19, 2018 8:18am
- RalphT
  
  “…but only by a nose.” But that could be quite a distance. The way this government lies they are all acquiring Pinocchio noses.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:35am
  - noskire
    
    Must be bloody annoying for them when sitting at that big round table. Maybe they could put a fondue cooker in the middle.
    
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    April 19, 2018 11:11am
Paulus

It has always been accepted that Grey Power are a left wing organisation but the attempt by one Lloyd Falk to become President takes them further towards being a branch of the Labour Party.
When Annette King was Minister for EQC she appointed her close friend and political assistant employee Chairman of EQC.
It is ironic that King now finds herself Chairp….. of EQC so I would expect Falk to be there trying to sort out the Christchurch problems which a number of people have. He might be good at it.
The fact that the Christchurch Council signed off all the properties under dispute, like the current Tauranga effective condemnation of 21 new properties is deplorable.
I doubt it is an EQC problem however, just a political one in Christchurch but more of a Council one in both Cities.
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April 19, 2018 8:19am
Viking2

Time everyone realized what a fuckwit he really is.

Paranoid delusions of grandeur. Psychiatrists know about that stuff.
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April 19, 2018 8:20am
oldpark

Seems sometimes the face or sounds dont always cut the mustard.
A recent article in the Wall Street Journal on “Commie Chic Comrade” Ardern comparing her to President Trump with her and his same agenda , to deny immigration. To USA and NZ. Much the same for her gang of no hopers selected by Peters to make sure it would reduce immigration unto NZ by Tens of Thousands.
Well talk about you should not be found out and even worse in the eyes of ” Commie Chic Comrade “Ardern to be compared to President Trump on his immigration policy caused her to perform in an incandescent meltdown.
Not a good look or sound from the Peters selected NZs PM.Wonder will her training wheels finally be disgarded and she will start wearing her big girl pants,and stop acting like a sixth form school girl teenager.
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April 19, 2018 8:21am
Humble Capitalist

I utterly accept that you use gas to cook and heat your home. That’s why we have presented you with this comprehensive plan on your alternatives when we turn the gas off in 10 years.
Your main non negotiable alternative is to help tax fund those that cant afford to transition to electricity. Following this you can work the rest out yourself.
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April 19, 2018 8:21am
- Wangas Feral
  
  We were thinking, until recently, of converting our rural feraldom to gas, but this new reality has us rethinking. Not a lot of point if we can’t afford the gas when we retire.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:28am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Just enjoying our gas flame-effect heater. In 10 years time when we decide to sell the house, perhaps we can throw in the cost of 2 new gas bottles as a sweetener for the person who is buying our house!?
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:57am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Without replacing gas fired electricity generators, there’ll be no electric either.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:42am
  - Wangas Feral
    
    We will just burn more wood I guess.
    
    What is that saying? “Think Globally, Pollute Locally”
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:31am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      They better get planting those trees then, they’d just about be ready in 10 years.
      Maybe thats the real reason for the policy.
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:39am
      - MrLovebucket
        
        No, the next Government target to be announced will be 0 carbon emissions by 2025 so you won’t be allowed to burn trees (or breathe)
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:57pm
Viking2

Anyway its bloody freezing this morning. Ice on the windscreens to start the day. Going to be a nice day eventually.

So far Labour haven’t managed to fuck the weather up. Weather reporting yes and today I can feel the global warming in my fingers. Shit its cold.
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April 19, 2018 8:22am
- hullkiwi
  
  Don’t worry Mummys boy & Pot Plant Sage are working on it with Green fingers Shane.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:33am
Catons

I think MFAT owe an explanation why diplomatic immunity is being claimed on a commercial debt. Does this mean that any commercial arrangement with a Diplomat is unenforceable especially a lease? It would be simple I suppose to have a waiver of Diplomatic immunity in any lease and maybe Matthew Ryan the Landlord should have sought this.
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April 19, 2018 8:25am
- fernglas
  
  Yes, diplomats are immune from civil suit, and any waiver would have to be given at Ambassador level.
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:19pm
Simon

Comey opened the Hillary email investigation just before the election because he thought she couldnt lose.

Looks like he shat himself shortly after and closed it down as quickly. Top work Gman.

Best line about Comey is that he isnt fit to wear J Edgar Hoover’s lingerie.
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April 19, 2018 8:26am
- MCos
  
  The FBI had been investigating the emails a long time before the election and decided there was not enough to warrent Clinto being charged.
  Shortly before the election Comey announced that they were investigating some new email evidence that had come to light.
  I think his reasoning was that it would look bad if they waited until after the election to announce they had reopened the investigation.
  Prior to the announcement Clinton was odds on to win. Her polling numbers slumped after the announcement.
  I suspect that if Clinton had won he would have been gone by lunchtime.
  He may have been good at his job at one time, but certainly seemed to struggle when politics became involved.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:46am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    His only winning move was not to play.
    
    But Clinton is corrupt as fuck, enriching herself by doling out favours as the secretary of state to countries who made sufficiently large donations to her foundation. All gone quiet since she lost to Trump. Pay for Play.
    
    Trump is a scoundrel too, screwing over vast numbers of people with his schemes and bankruptcys. But overall I think the influence pedalling of Clinton is worse for the rule of law in USA.
    
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    April 19, 2018 3:57pm
- All_on_Red
  
  They’re all in the shit now
  ‘Congressional lawmakers made a criminal referral Wednesday to the Department of Justice Attorney General Jeff Sessions against former senior-level Obama administration officials, including employees of the FBI connected with the unverified dossier alleging collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, as well as those involved in the warrants used to spy on a former Trump campaign volunteer, this reporter has learned. The lawmakers also made a criminal referral on former Attorney General Loretta Lynch and threats made by her DOJ against the FBI informant, who provided the bureau with information on the Russian nuclear industry and the approval in 2010 to sell roughly 20 percent of American uranium mining assets to Russia.
  
  House Oversight and Government Reform Committee member Rep. Ron DeSantis, R-Florida, along with nine other colleagues sent the letter Wednesday to Sessions and FBI Director Christopher Wray criminally referring former FBI Director James Comey, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, and former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe for their involvement in the investigations into President Trump and alleged violations of federal law. FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok and his paramour FBI lawyer Lisa Page, whose anti-Trump text messages obtained by the DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, were also included in the referral.’
  https://saraacarter.com/breaking-lawmakers-make-criminal-referral-on-clinton-comey-lynch-to-doj-on-steele-dossier/
  https://desantis.house.gov/_cache/files/8/0/8002ca75-52fc-4995-b87e-43584da268db/472EBC7D8F55C0F9E830D37CF96376A2.final-criminal-referral.pdf
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:54am
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    All on Red ,
    
    Yawn …
    
    Trump says new FBI texts are a “bombshell.” They’re not.
    
    This is yet another chapter in the open conservative case against Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
    
    https://www.vox.com/2018/2/7/16986222/trump-fbi-nunes-texts-page-strzok
    
    On Wednesday morning, President Donald Trump tweeted this, in all caps: “NEW FBI TEXTS ARE BOMBSHELLS!”
    
    Here’s what he’s referring to: Fox News reported on Wednesday that FBI lawyer Lisa Page told her lover Peter Strzok, an FBI agent, in a September 2016 text message that Obama wanted “to know everything we’re doing.” The two FBI officials are viewed by conservatives as the prime examples of alleged widespread anti-Trump bias among federal law enforcement, and have been targets of Republicans before.
    
    Conservatives — including the president — quickly pounced on the texts. They said the texts were further evidence of the anti-Trump conspiracy during the Obama administration to minimize the probe into Hillary Clinton’s emails.
    
    Asked on Fox & Friends to interpret the text, House Judiciary Committee member Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) said that “it means the president [Obama] wants to know what they’re doing to stop Trump.” Some conservatives also believe the effort to depose Trump continues within special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe, which, among other things, looks into possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
    
    The problem: We already know none of that is true….”
    
    https://www.vox.com/2018/2/7/16986222/trump-fbi-nunes-texts-page-strzok
    
    Sigh !
    
    In the meantime in the real world ,
    
    A Year in Trump Corruption
    
    Here’s every time Trump has profited off the presidency.
    
    E
    ditor’s note: For our Jan/Feb/March 2018 issue, Nicole Narea walks through the ways in which Donald Trump spent his first year in office brazenly enriching himself and his businesses, making a mockery of the notion that the interests of the American people should come before the president’s own bottom line. While past presidents divested of their assets or placed them in a blind trust, Trump merely shifted day-to-day control of his business onto his sons, who continue to brief him, and placed his assets in a trust that he can withdraw from whenever he wants. Read Nicole’s article for an explanation of which conduct is clearly unconstitutional and which is technically legal but deeply improper.
    The rate of misbehavior, by both the president and those hoping to curry his favor, has been dizzying to keep track of. Mainstream news organizations have done an impressive job documenting each instance of profiteering, but as far as we can tell, none have pulled them all together in one place. The following is our attempt to do just that. If there are any examples we’ve missed, please email us at editors@washingtonmonthly.com.
    
    https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/january-february-march-2018/a-year-in-trump-corruption/
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:20am
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      septicboy,still got a hard on for trump ,i guess it’ll take the pressure off the young girls at st lukes.
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:43am
    - All_on_Red
      
      You didn’t read the referral letter did you…
      Hey, how are your ‘enquiries’ going Ralph? ??
      Let me guess. You’ve discovered no one likes you and anyone could have done it!
      So funnny.
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:43am
- virtualmark
  
  The Inspector-General’s report into the events of late 2016 will be published in July.
  
  I’d be cautious about leaping to fitting up Comey too quickly before reading that report. I think Comey was a weak Director of the FBI. But, from the information that’s already in the public domain, I suspect the IG’s report will point a big finger at the FBI’s New York field office as playing political games with the Weiner emails in order to aid *Trump* not Clinton. They basically forced Comey into a corner where he felt he had to make a public statement, against FBI guidelines.
  
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    VM ,i think you will find it wasnt the new york fbi that was putting the pressure on but the NYPD that was responsible for threatening leaks about Clinton weiner emails.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:46am
    - virtualmark
      
      Yes, as I understand the sequence of events, drawn from public sources:
      1. On or about 1 October 2016 the NYPD takes Weiner’s laptop as part of their sex investigation of him,
      2. NYPD tells FBI NY office there are emails from Hilary Clinton on the laptop (this happens around 3 Oct 2016),
      3. FBI NY Office starts to leak (to Rudi Guiliani and Joe DiGenova particularly) that they have a new batch of Clinton emails (note that at this time people were referring to the FBI NY Office as “Trumplandia”),
      4. No one at the FBI NY Office actually analyses the Weiner emails until at least the 26th of October. It’s unclear why the delay,
      5. The leaking and agitation within the FBI NY Office is such that Comey feels he has to write to Congress on 28 October to say the FBI has a new batch of Clinton emails (doing this breaches FBI guidelines for disclosing active investigations … and note that by this time the FBI was investigating Trump’s links to Russia but the FBI, properly, does not disclose that),
      6. The FBI NY Office begins analysing the emails on or about the 26th or 27th of October. That analysis very quickly shows the emails are copies of emails the FBI has already got (ie they are not new emails).
      7. Comey writes again to Congress on 6 November to inform them that the “Weiner emails” are duplicates of emails already seen by the FBI.
      
      The FBI’s Inspector-General is investigating the actual events and is due to report back in July. It might be that the truth is different to what public sources have outlined so far. But if the public reporting to date is accurate then this will just make Trump’s credibility even more damaged than it is today.
      
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      April 19, 2018 12:38pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Read the first two pages of the Referral letter
    https://desantis.house.gov/_cache/files/8/0/8002ca75-52fc-4995-b87e-43584da268db/472EBC7D8F55C0F9E830D37CF96376A2.final-criminal-referral.pdf
    
    But I agree the IGs report will be very interesting
    ?
    
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    April 19, 2018 12:29pm
    - virtualmark
      
      A referral doesn’t mean much. I could write a nice letter to the Police referring you for some perceived slight. And the Police would likely put that letter in File 13.
      
      For now this referral letter just looks like a bunch of R’s carrying water for Trump. Let’s wait and see whether an actual investigation comes of it.
      
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      April 19, 2018 1:10pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Unlikely story. Weiner’s Laptop contained a heap of emails including classified ones – and Weiner had no security clearance at all. This compounds the offence.
    
    Remember to that the statute on classified information is an absolute one, no intent is required. Whether intentionally or not, copying a collection of emails including classified ones to a third party laptop controlled by a non-cleared individual is more than careless.
    
    Of course what we don’t know is what else is/was on that laptop, and rumours abound.
    
    I would have thought that finding additional emails (including ones deleted on the main server) on this laptop would be not just a cause to re-open the case but to change the original opinion. Of course since it had been pre-determined that HRC Would not be charged regardless of what was discovered finding new info was simply an embarrassment.
    
    Clinton was guilty, as I’ve pointed out a number of times before, beyond doubt guilty, of obstruction of justice, perjury, and security violations that are NOT excused by having “no intent”. That she wasn’t charged is pretty much proof that there’s a separate sort of justice available to the politically well connected Democrats like HRC.
    
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    April 19, 2018 1:06pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Sure, and Weiner could be (but AFAIK hasn’t been) charged with that. (If it were true?)
      
      Yes, finding the emails was cause to re-open the investigation in order to check if they were some of the “missing emails”. But that didn’t happen for more than 3 weeks after the emails were received. And during that 3 weeks the NY office leaked like a sieve that there was a big Clinton email scandal … although no analysis had been done on the emails in question.
      
      Finally, if, as you say, Clinton is guilty beyond doubt of multiple crimes then why have a Republican President, Attorney General, Cabinet, Senate and House not made sure she is investigated and charged? If, say, Hilary Clinton was guilty of selling a big slug of America’s uranium to Russia then why haven’t the Rs not even appointed a Special Investigator?
      
      That none of that has happened suggests to me that “Clinton is guilty” is just a conspiracy theory for the deluded.
      
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      April 19, 2018 1:15pm
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ANZ economists say the cost of building a new house has become more attractive relative to the cost of buying an existing one | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93266/anz-economists-say-cost-building-new-house-has-become-more-attractive-relative-cost

ANZ economists say that despite rising construction and land costs, the high existing house prices in New Zealand have made building a house more attractive relative to buying an existing one.

In the bank’s latest Property Focus publication, chief economist Sharon Zollner, senior economist Liz Kendall and senior macro strategist Philip Borkin say the cost of building (based on the cost of a section and a new dwelling) can be compared with the cost of an existing house through a measure known as “Tobin’s Q for housing”.

“Building tends to increase when the cost of a new build becomes cheaper relative to buying an existing dwelling,” they say.

“Prices for existing houses have increased 50% since the start of 2012, whereas we estimate that the cost of a new dwelling (including land and construction) has increased 30% over the same period.

“The location and composition of new versus existing housing can differ, of course, but this comparison gives a general indication of how relative costs have evolved.

“Building has become more attractive relative to buying and consents have risen accordingly.” … read more via hyperlink above …

NZ Government Mondays fresh focus and commitment to sound infrastructure financing …

The Minister of Transport Phil Twyford says there is a “great deal of interest” from private capital providers when it comes to investing in New Zealand’s transport infrastructure – he is welcoming their interest | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/business/93209/minister-transport-phil-twyford-says-there-%E2%80%9Cgreat-deal-interest%E2%80%9D-private-capital
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Housing Minister supports UN call for housing strategy | Māori Television

http://www.maoritelevision.com/news/politics/housing-minister-supports-un-call-housing-strategy

United Nations calls on NZ to adopt human rights-based national housing strategy | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/102830739/united-nations-calls-on-nz-to-adopt-human-rightsbased-national-housing-strategy
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- RW Capitalist
  
  HAHAHA
  Same economists that said there was no fiscal hole in Labours numbers?????
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:39am
- Nostradamus
  
  I visited your blog Hugh. (Don’t get too excited!)
  
  General update – November 2017
  GENERAL COMMENT – NOVEMBER 2017
  GENERAL COMMENT – March 2017
  
  Maybe you should update your blog instead of spamming Kiwiblog every day?
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:41am
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    He knows as well as we do – nobody reads the bloody thing.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:57am
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      … From Australia …
      
      ABC’s The Business does rampant CBA, AMP corruption – MacroBusiness
      
      https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/04/abcs-business-rampant-cba-amp-corruption/
      
      And via the ABC:
      
      Senior counsel assisting the commission Michael Hodge QC appears to have finally and completely lost patience with CBA witness Marianne Perkovic. … VIEW & READ more via hyperlink above …
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      Panic grips mortgage broker as bank standards skyrocket – MacroBusiness
      
      https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/04/panic-grips-mortgage-broker-bank-standards-skyrocket/
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      Household financial confidence slip-slides away – MacroBusiness
      
      https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/04/household-financial-confidence-slip-slides-away/
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:09am
      - Swifty
        
        You must wonder what goes through the mind of someone like this – he knows full well that his spamming of personal business interests is disfavoured by the great majority of his fellow posters here – but every day without fail he gets up, wanders over to the laptop in his gruts and bangs more out.
        
        Why would someone so willingly wreck their reputation this way?
        
        What is the psychology of this?
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:17am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … From the United Kingdom …
        
        Labour would rip up definition of affordable housing, Corbyn says | Politics | The Guardian
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/18/labour-would-rip-up-definition-of-affordable-housing-corbyn-says
        
        A Labour government would rip up the government’s definition of affordable housing and instead bring in a measure linked to people’s incomes, Jeremy Corbyn will say on Thursday.
        
        A report, Housing for the Many, accuses ministers of stretching the term affordable to breaking point to include homes let at up to 80% of market rents – more than £1,500 a month in some areas – and homes for sale up to £450,000. “It has become a deliberately malleable phrase, used to cover up a shift in government policy towards increasingly expensive and insecure homes,” it says. …. Read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        April 19, 2018 11:54am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        ANZ says house prices are so high that building your own home makes sense | Rob Stock | Fairfax / Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/money/103229003/anz-says-house-prices-are-so-high-that-building-your-own-home-makes-sense
        
        House prices are so high, building a house is now a cost effective route to home ownership, ANZ’s team of economists say.
        
        But, said ANZ economist Liz Kendall, people wanting to build still had the challenge of finding land to do it on.
        
        That could only come from both freeing up land on city fringes, and allowing people to build with greater density within current city limits.
        
        There was some indication that was already happening, with a third of all new consents for dwellings being for multi-unit complexes, ANZ found. … read more via hyperlink above …
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        NZ Government Mondays fresh focus and commitment to sound infrastructure financing …
        
        The Minister of Transport Phil Twyford says there is a “great deal of interest” from private capital providers when it comes to investing in New Zealand’s transport infrastructure – he is welcoming their interest | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/business/93209/minister-transport-phil-twyford-says-there-%E2%80%9Cgreat-deal-interest%E2%80%9D-private-capital
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        Housing – New Zealand Labour Party
        
        http://www.labour.org.nz/housing
        
        … extract …
        
        Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out
        
        Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds.
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:43pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Commonwealth Bank charged fees to dead clients, royal commission hears | Australia news | The Guardian
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/apr/19/commonwealth-bank-charged-fees-to-dead-clients-royal-commission-hears
        
        Some advisers charged the deceased for financial advice – in one case for a decade … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        … Google search ‘Australia Banking Royal Commission’ …
        
        https://www.google.co.nz/search?source=hp&ei=4xvYWvqxNoGV0gT19oXIDw&q=australia+banking+royal+commission&oq=australia+banking+royal+commission&gs_l=psy-ab.13..0.3769.21489.0.23701.34.14.0.20.20.0.351.3515.2-12j2.14.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.34.3939…0i131k1j0i22i30k1.0.pTM_YTt8ylQ
        
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      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/04/pollies-cat-fight-royal-commission-kudos/#comment-3090344 … and …
        
        Royal commission into banking: CBA charged client fees after death … Sydney Morning Herald … watch video …
        
        https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/cba-charged-client-fees-for-10-years-after-death-20180419-p4zag1.html
        
        Commonwealth Bank planners charged clients fees after they died, in some cases for more than a decade, the royal commission has heard.
        
        But the rogue planners were let off with only a warning from the bank and were not reported to the corporate watchdog. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        … EARLIER ABC REPORTS …
        
        Early March: ABC’s The Business does liar loans – MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/abcs-business-irresponsible-mortgage-lending/
        
        ABC The Business 29 Mar 2018 On Mortgage Brokers
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrY3NUhYrXA
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:04pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … United Kingdom … Labour Housing Speech …
        
        Britain’s housing market is broken. Here’s how Labour will fix it | John Healey | Opinion | The Guardian
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/19/britain-housing-market-broken-labour-council-houses
        
        … extract …
        
        … We will transform the planning system with a new duty to deliver affordable homes, an English Sovereign Land Trust to make more land available more cheaply and an end to the “viability” loophole that lets commercial developers dodge their obligation to deliver affordable homes. And we will back councils, housing associations and community providers with the funding and flexibility to build big for their communities. … read more via hyperlink above …
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        Labour plans to make landowners sell to state for fraction of value | Politics | The Guardian
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/01/labour-plans-landowners-sell-state-fraction-value
        
        … extract …
        
        … The proposal has been drawn up by John Healey, the shadow housing secretary, and would see a Jeremy Corbyn-led government change the law so landowners would have to sell sites to the state at knockdown prices.
        
        Landowners currently sell at a price that factors in the dramatic increase in value when planning consent is granted. It means a hectare of agricultural land worth around £20,000 can sell for closer to £2m if it is zoned for housing.
        
        Labour believes this is slowing down housebuilding by dramatically increasing costs. It is planning a new English Sovereign Land Trust with powers to buy sites at closer to the lower price. … read more via hyperlink above …
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        John Healey (politician) – Wikipedia
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Healey_(politician)
        
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        April 20, 2018 1:41am
  - stephieboy
    
    Nostradamus, you should talk.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:22am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      I don’t recall asking you for your opinion. Shouldn’t you be at St Lukes perving at underaged girls?
      
      By the way, “you should talk” is an implied response to “Maybe you should update your blog instead of spamming Kiwiblog every day?” If anyone is a daily spammer on Kiwiblog with low-value content, it’s you!
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:27am
      - stigie
        
        I don’t recall asking you for your opinion. Shouldn’t you be at St Lukes perving at underaged girls?
        
        Not much use to Stiffy now Nostra, those underaged girls have grown up.
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:59am
Monique Watson

Oh that was just fucking revolting. Ardern hanging off the monkey bars alongside Trudeau. I hope the baby shits on her in the first few weeks and subsequently she’ll scramble for towels and get to know the meaning of desperation and she’ll flick the terms “feminism”, and equality”, to touch.
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April 19, 2018 8:27am
waikatogirl

Andy Little with two family members is going 30m “into the portal of Pike River Mine” today. ?

What a shame for Winston that he is stuck on the other side of the world and unable to join Little on this family outing.
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April 19, 2018 8:35am
- RW Capitalist
  
  They are so desperate for attention/ distraction they are wheeling out the circus acts now?
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:37am
- niggly
  
  What, only going in 30m? What a bunch of sooks!
  
  According to the likes of Bernie Monk and other families, rescuers should have walked the 1970m (i.e. 2km or whatever it was) along the drift, carrying heavy rescue equipment and drills, to where the suspected main rockfall occurred blocking off the miners escape!
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:51am
- VicParking
  
  “Time to go back to the entrance”
  “Just a minute Andy I’ll just light this cigi”
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:15am
  - softail 1450
    
    V P,some would say Littles dad could have made a great contribution to NZ all those years ago by making a similar half hearted pathetic entrance….
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:51am
- G152
  
  30 meters into a walk of several kilometers?
  Are we supposed to be impressed?
  At least if there is an accident the union perp will get it.
  So I suppose poetic justice but knowing the lies they tell I doubt they will actually enter the adit, just say they did
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:04am
  - VicParking
    
    Just a moment, who was the union Rep when the mine first exploded, yes thats right Andrew Little.
    
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    April 19, 2018 10:19am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  What a coincidence he is away overseas. 30 metres though? Why not send Andy all the way in?
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:21pm
- Niz
  
  Apparently, this shows that a safe re-entry into the mine is possible. I’d be interested to hear the logic behind this. Successfully making it down the Parliament steps doesn’t mean it’s safe to step off the top of the Sky Tower does it?
  
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  April 19, 2018 1:05pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  30 metres. O my God, such bravery! Twats
  
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  April 19, 2018 1:34pm
- Paulus
  
  Just a photo take whilst Calamity Cindy and the old geriatric are away to help his re election to his rightful role at the next Labour Council Annual Meeting.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:28pm
RW Capitalist

I hear JA has “hardened her response to the attacks on Syria’s chemical weapons”
After her meeting with Macron and May, and before her meeting at the 5 eyes committee.
Coincidence?
I suggest she has had her handy slapped at her “please explain” meeting with these two.
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- waikatogirl
  
  You mean when she added the word “utterly”?
  No, Cindy has specifically said the use of utterly does not reinforce her previous statement. Spin baby, spin.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:04am
Lee C

Ummmmmm, absolutely!
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April 19, 2018 8:38am
All_on_Red

‘@realDonaldTrump
Mike Pompeo met with Kim Jong Un in North Korea last week. Meeting went very smoothly and a good relationship was formed. Details of Summit are being worked out now. Denuclearization will be a great thing for World, but also for North Korea!
18/04/18’
Wow
I see it’s also being discussed that the war between North and South is finally declared as being over.
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April 19, 2018 8:43am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Note on diplomatic one up manship.
  Kim meets with an underling and things happen, no meeting with Trump yet.
  Tells you exactly who the senior member of this tryst is.
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:59am
- MCos
  
  That’s today. There’s plenty of time for someone to get in Trump’s ear before the next phase of negotiations.
  The US Ambassador to the UN, Nikki Halley, has just be humiliated by a U-turn on Russian sanctions in a 24 hour period.
  The previous Secretary of State was slapped down when he mentioned the possibility of negotiations with North Korea.
  Maybe it’s all part of some grand scheme.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:01am
- rangitoto
  
  If this happens then Trump will actually deserve a Nobel Peace prize unlike Obomber.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:16am
Swifty

Phil Lamason took ‘fearful beatings’ from Buchanwald camp guards for standing firm that, as POWs, they should not be forced to work.

I have seen interviews with US airmen describing Lamason’s behaviour as the finest they’ve ever seen. A natural leader of men.

Worked with Phil Lamason’s nephew a few years ago – he spoke of his uncle in glowing terms.

More here for those interested in a fine NZer:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/103169166/phil-lamasons-remarkable-story-of-surviving-buchenwald

Props too for the Luftwaffe officers who eventually got the Allied fliers released – just days away from execution.
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April 19, 2018 8:46am
Chris2

Whaleoil has returned to what he used to do really well at, by posting an excellent investigative article about a conflict of interest (actually, potential corruption) in the Prime Ministers Office:

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/04/conflict-of-interest-issues-in-pms-office-again/#more-376422
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April 19, 2018 8:54am
- softail 1450
  
  chris2, that is very worrying it seems this shite we have running our place doesn’t even care about blatant conflict of interest matters,and only 6months on the job .
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:03am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Yes, it’s a very good post. The Cabinet Manual is explicit in its instructions for managing conflicts of interest, be they actual or perceived conflicts.
  
  In this case, it may well be that Ardern herself is not directly conflicted. However it could equally be argued that the PM’s Chief of Staff could be considered a “close associate” of the PM, as stated in sections 2.65 and 2.66 of the Cabinet Manual.
  
  https://dpmc.govt.nz/our-business-units/cabinet-office/supporting-work-cabinet/cabinet-manual/2-ministers-crown-6
  
  It will be very interesting to see how this plays out, and whether anyone in the MSM will be brave enough to go near it.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:06am
lifesgood

Anyone else notice that mummy’s boy, Trudeau, is wearing a gold and feather bracelet.? How unbecoming of a PM, a bit like Cindy’s boots.
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April 19, 2018 8:55am
- cmm
  
  If he comes here will the border squad have the balls to take it away for fumigation?
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:57am
  - fernglas
    
    Perhaps they should have his balls taken away for fumigation?
    
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    April 19, 2018 12:24pm
cmm

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/103223973/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-talks-security-trade-with-uks-theresa-may

Jacinda and May talking about how to secure 5 eyes from Russian eyeballs.

“I know!”, says Jacinda, looking up from her colouring in book with her “clever face” on: “Let’s get the Russians to join our oversight committee! They’ll never think of that!”.
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April 19, 2018 8:56am
niggly

Did anyone hear that talkback caller to Radio Live’s Mitch Harris last night (just before 11pm)? Sheryl or Cheryl was the callers name, was saying Winston Peters was a patient at Tauranga hospital recently??? Hopefully nothing too bad was going on, of course! 🙂

Perhaps he was actually delivering Gold Cards in person to the other patients or something like that – so nothing to see, time to move on peeps! 😉
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April 19, 2018 8:57am
- waikatogirl
  
  Tauranga hospital is very used to dealing with aged patients.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:18am
  - Paulus
    
    Tauranga was one of them when I had a heart attack last year.
    Brilliant in every respect.
    
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    April 19, 2018 2:30pm
- Albert_Ross
  
  If this is true she should lose her job for breach of patient confidentiality. Doesn’t matter who the victim is, health professionals just can’t do that.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:19am
  - lifesgood
    
    She may well have been another patient.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:32am
  - niggly
    
    She wasn’t a health professional, she said a trusted friend of hers was also in hospital at the same time as a patient and was quite surprised to see him there (as in, seeing someone “famous” there – i.e. wasn’t expecting it). It was a while ago it seems.
    
    And that was the end of the talkback call, the host didn’t make an issue out of it or offer any conjecture, just expressed some surprise too and thanked her for her call!
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:45am
  - Happychappy
    
    Don’t worry Winston will blame National and start court proceedings.
    
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    April 19, 2018 10:06am
- VicParking
  
  Just Rubbish. He was in there for a prostrate exam but left in a huff when they tried to put the camera down his throat.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:22am
- Paulus
  
  niggly
  
  Dubious comment. Hearsay only.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:32pm
artemisia

National Radio this morning reporting part of a story.

Subject is a ‘charm offensive’ by Moroccan authorities to protect their phosphate exports to NZ. There is a political aspect, as the Western Sahara where phosphate is sourced is disputed territory.

The reason this is only part of the story is that the EU has dramatically reduced the permissible level of cadmium in phosphate and Western Sahara phosphate exceeds this. Cadmium is bad, very bad, and leaches into waterways to boot. New Zealand has not made a change.

So the ‘charm offensive’ is to keep shipping to NZ as other markets dry up because of concern for the health of their citizens.

Where are the environmentalists when we actually need them? Busy with the chicken salt?

https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018641339/morocco-s-charm-offensive-to-protect-phosphate-sale-to-nz
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April 19, 2018 8:58am
- cmm
  
  Cue stuff and herald kicking into gear with lots of couscous recipes, Rabat travel features, etc to soften us up.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:47am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I think that Balance Agri-Nutrients Co-Op Ltd were caught up in this Moroccan phosphate carry on a year or so ago. A 54,000 tonne boat load of the stuff was held up in Cape Town or somewhere whilst the origin of the stuff was questioned.
  When dairy farm land is converted to residential housing land stringent tests for cadmium are required.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:16am
  - artemisia
    
    New Zeland does in fact have a large supply of low cadmium, low leaching phosphate ready to be extracted. From the seabed off the Chathams.
    
    Initial application to the EPA was declined and the company is preparing to reapply. They are waiting to see what happens with the Trans Tasman Resources iron sands appeal in the High Court this week. (That was also declined by the EPA but a second application was OKd.)
    
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    April 19, 2018 11:40am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Nah, Cadmium is great. We could stockpile it and sell it to the latest dictator wanting Nukes…
  
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  April 19, 2018 1:10pm
Inandout

Sorry Countdown lady, I won’t feel ashamed by using plastic bags after Christmas. I will make a prediction now that when the holiday rush is on, and people are fumbling with reusable bags while the checkout queues get longer, the plastic will hit the fan. Then there are the self service checkouts and bags with interesting compartments. When ‘shop lifting’ increases will Countdown simply increase prices to compensate?
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April 19, 2018 9:05am
- artemisia
  
  I use a Countdown Metro in Welly CBD. Around the middle of the day there are many many working people buying – a banana, a sandwich, a drink and a sticky bun.
  
  Some of those working people are women with the handbag. A very few are chaps in suits with the manbag.
  
  But there are heaps of chaps in suits or hi vis vests. If Countdown think they are going to keep a reusable bag in their pocket, I have news for them.
  
  Already big queues at lunchtime. Perhaps Countdown will have a stand by picker upper to scoop up the dropped bananas. And pies. And sticky buns.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:32am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Countdown will be running a trial soon to see how their preparation for no plastic bags is progressing for the end of year date. Will Countdown hand out free carry bags at the checkout or are we to expect to be told you have to purchase carry bags when you reach the checkout with a trolley full of groceries?
    
    I have several of those reusable bags but I find them quite cumbersome as they overfill the damn things, and are never where you need them.
    
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    April 19, 2018 10:14am
Anne Glen Eden

Am I the only one who watched Angela Merkel treat Ardern like an entertaining, precocious child?

It was extraordinary. The ‘most powerful woman in Europe’ was, I’m sure, grateful for the time-out from heavy responsibility to amuse herself – instead of her unstable government, failing banks, potential war with Russia and risky European infrastructure, war in the ME, Nato, and terrorism throughout Germany, and millions of unstable immigrants – she got to think and talk about Whau, the kiwi, and hug a soft toy.

I can’t imagine what world politics would be like if world leaders all attended press conferences with the MSM asking if they ‘like’ each other. Merkel’s response said it all – ‘Mein Gott’. I’m not surprised.

Her response would have suited schoolchildren for the school newsletter, and I include the MSM in that:

“”Time flew and it was nice, it was very interesting and fun,” Merkel said in response to a question on how she found Ardern. “So you can be proud of your prime minister. If you want to write this down for the New Zealand press. This will be the headline in the morning papers I trust.” Ah, such power, such weighty concerns resting on NZ shoulders.

I doubt Merkel could really believe it could happen but I’m sure she found it ‘nice’, ‘interesting’, and ‘fun’. And laughed all the way to her next meeting at our ‘quaintness’ and naivete. Aren’t we cute?
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April 19, 2018 9:09am
- cmm
  
  ” it was very interesting and fun,” sounds like they played snakes and ladders…
  
  Poor only childless Merkel probably felt it was like having a substitute grandchild round to visit.
  
  63 – 37 = 26, and Cindy is not a very grown up 37, so the maths does work out – just.
  
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  April 19, 2018 11:03am
  - stephieboy
    
    cmm,
    
    “Poor only childless Merkel .. “?
    
    You appear to treat as though it was some kind of war crime?
    
    Ann of Glen Eden, I can assure you prior Germany was at the forefront of the Cold war and the balance of Terror.
    
    Germany’s security issues today are nothing like that of yesteryear.
    
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    April 19, 2018 11:49am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      I can assure you
      
      Given your alternative name (Stupidboy), I doubt you’ll assure anyone on Kiwiblog of anything about anyone anytime soon!
      
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      April 19, 2018 3:11pm
milkmaid

Clare Curran, the Minister of Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media, has had her Facebook account hacked!

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/digital-media-minister-clare-curran-unsure-if-her-facebook-has-been-hacked

Or maybe not. She’s not sure. It’s a bit hard to tell with these digital thingies, isn’t it?
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April 19, 2018 9:10am
- Nev.
  
  Curran is one of the smartest, experienced Labour MP’s there is. Let that sink in!
  Nev.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:31am
  - niggly
    
    The hackers probably thought she would be an easy target, as her password was probably something like “password” or “Trevor” or her cats name perhaps? 😉
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:53am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Isn’t “Trevor” her cats name?
      Or is her cat less of a pussy than Trevor?
      
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      April 19, 2018 11:04am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Not sure but I believe one really likes the other’s pussy..
        
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        April 19, 2018 1:04pm
    - softail 1450
      
      niggly ,more likely looking for her KFC password going by the way she is whacking on the lard.
      it must be a competition between her and woods to see who can get to rugby ball shape first .
      
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      April 19, 2018 12:15pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Well, she is the Minister for Open Government, and you can’t get much more open than sharing your Facebook information with the Russians!
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:09am
- VicParking
  
  It wasn’t an offical hack but a chance one while she was at the Gym.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:26am
Fletch

Here it is folks – the ultimate in green lunacy. Hardwoord forests in Virginia in the United States are being chainsawed, the wood turned into “biomass” pellets, and being shipped to the U.K and burned in place of coal because coal is bad and burning this stuff will help the U.K reach it’s global warming emissions target. It turns out though, that burning these pellets causes 8 percent more pollution than coal. 😆

Huge areas of hardwood forest in the state of Virginia are being chainsawed to create ‘biomass’ energy in Britain as the government attempts to reach targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in efforts to tackle climate change, an investigation by Channel 4 Dispatches has found.

A key part of government efforts to hit its green energy targets is to switch from generating electricity from burning coal to burning wood – or so-called biomass. It’s a policy that is costing taxpayers more than £700 million per year through a levy on their electricity bills.

Antony Barnett, reporter at Dispatches, travelled to the southern states of the USA to investigate the source of wood that is now being turned into millions of tonnes of wood pellets to be burnt in Britain’s largest power station, Drax, in North Yorkshire.

Footage reveals huge areas of hardwood forest in the state of Virginia being chopped down and removed to a factory owned by US firm Enviva that grinds up logs into pellets. A large proportion of these pellets are then shipped across the Atlantic to be burnt at Drax in the UK – one of Enviva’s main customers.

Britain has pledged to cut carbon emissions by 57 percent by 2030 and getting Drax to switch from burning coal to wood is meant to play an important part in that. Drax now produces up to 17 percent of Britain’s ‘renewable’ electricity, enough to power four million homes.

However, Dispatches conducted a simple experiment at a laboratory at the University of Nottingham to compare the carbon dioxide emitted when burning wood pellets, similar to those used by Drax, instead of coal.

It found that to burn an amount of wood pellets that would generate the same amount of electricity as coal it would actually produce roughly eight percent more carbon

https://theecologist.org/2018/apr/16/hardwood-forests-cut-down-feed-drax-power-plant-channel-4-dispatches-claims

So yeh, lets cut down and burn all the hardwood forests that aren’t in your country to decrease the amount of emissions, while actually increasing them.
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April 19, 2018 9:16am
- hullkiwi
  
  Sounds familiar, a bit like stopping oil & gas exploration (& possible future production) in your own backyard only to develop the need for replacement oil & gas supplies to come from abroad. Thereby, increasing carbon emissions. These climate change energy policy fanatics are loony tunes.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:52am
- VicParking
  
  Not counting the loss of Co2 absorption of the trees in the first place
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:28am
- cmm
  
  Jones just found his “mission billion” trees.
  
  “Minister, where are the trees.”
  “We grew them, chopped them down and sold them to the Uk. Honest.”
  “Ok, where are the stumps.”
  “Umm, we sold those too.”
  
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  April 19, 2018 11:06am
- Niz
  
  There’s the emissions made by the chainsaws, and the energy required to turn the trees into pellets as well. I wonder how much energy that takes, and how green the source of the energy required for that job is.
  Then there’s the energy used to transport the stuff.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:12pm
- KevOB
  
  Even sillier, there are competent scientists expecting we are going to go into a long term cold phase beginning in the next few years.
  
  Unpreparedness to cold is unwise and deadly: warmth we can adapt to and plants produce food.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:48pm
jcuk

Further tp David Garrats thread about licences … I had an interesting experience yesterday ….
Picking up my wife from the hospital I was about to drive off when another VW, bigger than my nice little Polo stopped ahead of me in the aproved manner to back into the park I was occupying and indicated it wanted my park.
Fair enough though it meant to get out I would have to go over into the opposing lane to get past
it.
There is stayed indicating a left turn while I was indicating a right turn.
After a while I pulled out and around it and noticed the woman driver … NO NOT an Asian but a dam fool European.
How do some folk get licences I wonder?
My wife who usually would be driving her own car was equally astonished at this woman’s stupidity.
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April 19, 2018 9:33am
- Monique Watson
  
  I’d have consigned her to driving a Pony for at least a few decades.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:53am
- hullkiwi
  
  Experience from driving in the UK, stay well away from female European drivers of VS Turegs. Particularly, around railway station car parks when they are picking up their insurance broker husbands, who just arrived on the train from London.
  We often witnessed this one & made sure we parked as far away as possible.
  
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  April 19, 2018 11:26am
  - stephieboy
    
    hullkiwi , haven’t you thought it could well be a reaction to your sloppy male chauvinistic pig driving in NZ?
    
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    April 19, 2018 11:53am
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy,please don’t mention pig and sloppy in the same sentence septic we dont want you coming over all barred up do we ?
      
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      April 19, 2018 12:19pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      That’s not a very Christian comment Ralph.
      St Albans know you talk like this?
      
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      April 19, 2018 12:26pm
Monique Watson

Oh that was an amazing aviation feat. Tammie Jo Shults who glided a compromised Bird into a landing. Fan blades blew through the casing, shrapnel took out a window with decompression imminent. Which meant the crew had a few minutes of chuckling followed by minutes of panic and scrambling and there could have been lots more souls lost, but she held it together and took it into land like a seagull scrambling for the last mussel.
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April 19, 2018 9:35am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Commercial jet engines fail quite frequently (probably 10’s of times per year). It is certainly a novelty, but to describe the pilots actions as anything other than normal is silly. She diverted and landed at closest airport. Big hairy deal, that is not heroism or bravery it is doing the job. They train for long hours in simulators to deal with this sort of issue, and when it happens they are conditioned to know how to deal with it.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:29am
  - MCos
    
    I don’t think the passengers saying goodbye to their kids thought it was normal.
    
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    April 19, 2018 10:55am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Very few failures generate enough shrapnel to penetrate the aircraft’s body though. So as well as an engine out they had do deal with a pretty rapid decompression incident as well, plus no doubt asymmetric drag from the damaged engine casing.
    
    Not completely out of the box extraordinary, but pretty unusual. I’d bet that the pilot has flown a similar scenario a few times in a simulator as part of her training, which must help.
    
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    April 19, 2018 3:10pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    Oh Bullshit. No amount of hours in a simulator trains you for the real life situation of having to say: “This is the Captain, Brace for impact”.
    Keeping your sphincter nailed shut and the brains on board while undergoing a depressurization that makes you want to you laugh like fuck while dealing with annoying flight attendants who are trying to alert you to a situation that you’re well fucking aware of. And then you’ve got to talk to Air Traffic Control who are saying, “just bank left”. You know it’s not as easy as this, And you just want to grab onto the ground and save souls.
    The woman is a hero.
    
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    April 19, 2018 3:36pm
- VicParking
  
  Ex military pilot..say no more
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:30am
All_on_Red

‘Gang-related gun murders, now mainly a phenomenon among men with immigrant backgrounds in the country’s parallel societies, increased from 4 per year in the early 1990s to around 40 last year. Because of this, Sweden has gone from being a low-crime country to having homicide rates significantly above the Western European average. Social unrest, with car torchings, attacks on first responders and even riots, is a recurring phenomenon.

Shootings in the country have become so common that they don’t make top headlines anymore, unless they are spectacular or lead to fatalities. News of attacks are quickly replaced with headlines about sports events and celebrities, as readers have become desensitized to the violence. A generation ago, bombings against the police and riots were extremely rare events. Today, reading about such incidents is considered part of daily life.’
https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-bombings-grenade-attacks-violent-reality-undoing-peaceful-self-image-law-and-order/
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April 19, 2018 9:36am
Catons

Jacinda is swanning around Europe collecting phto ops and virtue signalling on climate change meanwhile showing off her very ample baby bump
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April 19, 2018 9:37am
Humble Capitalist

I hear there are bus drivers from one company on strike in Auckland today. Its all good though no national strikes yet
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April 19, 2018 9:37am
waikatogirl

George W Bush talking about visiting his mother Barbara Bush in hospital before her death. They were sparring backwards and foward as was their usual conversation style when the doctor walked in. “Mum said to the doctor, do you want to know why George is the way he is? It’s because I drank and smoked while I was pregnant with him.” ?
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April 19, 2018 9:40am
- Monique Watson
  
  I just think it’s endearing how he pinched her ass after four decades of marriage. And as my Mom says, there’s always one snorer in a marriage and one who needs to put a hand over the Martini glass. If you’re lucky, you’re the over-indulgent, snoring Martini drinker. If you’re not, you’re potentially cleaning bogs without help.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:47am
Ross12

Just to show there are mad bureaucrats all over the world

https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/04/13/family-farm-could-face-prison-for-calling-skim-milk-by-its-name/
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April 19, 2018 9:54am
All_on_Red

It’s quite astonishing what Oil Reserves the US has. I see NT in Australia have announced that Fracking, with some mitigating methodology, is safe. The UK and US EPA already have announced that.
‘Oil and other fossil fuels will continue to be our primary energy sources through the end of this century because they offer four great advantages. Compared to renewables, fossil fuels are inexpensive, reliable, abundant, and concentrated. The age of oil is far from being eclipsed. We have barely begun to exploit unconventional oil resources. The western U.S. alone contains at least 2 trillion barrels of petroleum in oil shale formations. At a current U.S. annual consumption rate of 7.2 billion barrels, that’s a 278-year supply.

Ultimately, the world will switch to nuclear power because that’s where the energy is. But there’s no reason grounded in science for that transition to take place in the lifetime of anyone reading this article. Political attempts to control energy markets for ideological reasons can only result in increasing energy prices and reduced human prosperity.’
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/04/the_end_of_peak_oil.html

The way to solve poverty is through the provision of cheap energy. High costs destroy economies.
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April 19, 2018 9:59am
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red,
  
  and let us thank the former President for one of the greatest energy expansions in US history,
  
  Report card ,
  
  “..Certainly some of President Obama’s decisions have been viewed by the fossil fuel industry as hostile. And President-elect Trump will work hard to erase Obama’s energy legacy. Nevertheless, the huge irony of Obama’s presidency is that despite his reputation as an anti-energy president, he has presided over the largest expansion of energy production in U.S. history.”
  
  https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2016/12/12/president-obamas-energy-report-card/2/#1e300f95537c
  
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  April 19, 2018 11:58am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Hello stalker
    Actually whilst energy grew it was despite Obamas efforts.
    All the growth occurred on PRIVATE land because in the US mineral rights belong to the land owner.
    Not like here.
    Obama actually tightened regs and forbade exploration on more Federal land. Because ‘climate change’.
    Fracking technology improved also- again with no help from Obama.
    This is just another example of how dumb you are.
    
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    April 19, 2018 12:24pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red Herring.con,
      
      Let me repeat ,
      
      Report card ,
      
      “..Certainly some of President Obama’s decisions have been viewed by the fossil fuel industry as hostile. And President-elect Trump will work hard to erase Obama’s energy legacy. Nevertheless, the huge irony of Obama’s presidency is that despite his reputation as an anti-energy president, he has presided over the largest expansion of energy production in U.S. history.”
      
      Just shows what a buffoon you are.
      
      “Climate change ”
      
      Touchy are you ?
      
      And slash the size of NZ national parks too?
      
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/03/donald-trump-slash-size-national-parks-utah-allow-drilling/
      
      LOL
      
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      April 19, 2018 12:27pm
      - softail 1450
        
        septic boy,goat harasser.
        
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        April 19, 2018 12:35pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Ralph
        Just because Obama was President when growth occurred doesn’t mean he helped achieve that…
        As I said, he actually worked against it and they succeeded in spite of it.
        You’re so gullible.
        
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        April 19, 2018 2:07pm
      - axeman
        
        Hey Walphy soon you will need a microscope to find Barry the Kenyan’s ‘legacy’
        
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        April 20, 2018 3:58am
- mikewasmild
  
  American Thinker? And you laugh at stephieboy’s sources!
  
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  April 19, 2018 3:49pm
DifferentPerspective

More Proof that Jacinda is NZ’s Trump

So the IMF have waded in and pointed out that Labour’s foreign buyers’ ban on entering the NZ housing market is discriminatory. So Jacinda discriminates against foreigners. Which is one of the legion of challenges levelled at Trump for just about anything he says.

The list of similarities between Jacinda and Trump keeps on growing:
– Jacinda is a pathological liar (just like Trump)
– Jacinda is a racist (just like Trump) although Jacinda hates whites and people with chinky sounding names
– Jacinda is anti-immigration (just like Trump)
– Jacinda owes her fame to tabloid journalism (just like Trump)
– Jacinda became leader when no one thought it was possible (just like Trump)
– Jacinda has a trophy wife (just like Trump)
– Jacinda has a revolving door problem in her office (just like Trump)
– Jacinda has major conflict of interest issues in her office (just like Trump)

I bet she has small hands too.
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April 19, 2018 9:59am
- MCos
  
  And she’ll probably get re-elected – just like Trump!
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:59am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Indeed MCos. If Labour Lite National don’t get working soon and return to the centre right, she could be!
    
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    April 19, 2018 11:53am
    - stephieboy
      
      DP , what on earth does the centre-right meant to you?
      
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      April 19, 2018 12:32pm
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        1) Calling out the evils of cultural marxism, every time they occur
        2) Equality of opportunity (as opposed to the lunacy of the pursuit of forced equality of outcome)
        3) A more balanced approach to development than the NIMBY RMA
        4) Putting the security and well-being of citizens and residents first above all else and closing the doors to immigration if the host population is disadvantaged
        5) Not virtue-signalling like a dog barking at every passing car
        6) Incentivising the productive in society and using every lever to force the indigent to contribute and fulfil their part of the great social contract
        7) Fairness and certainty of punishment in the Justice system
        8) Doing whatever it takes to prevent indigent parents from extending the cycle of poverty
        9) Celebrating and cherishing freedom of expression and recognising that hurt feelings are the responsibility of the twat expressing hurt not the person exercising their rights to freedom of expression
        
        I could go on. But if you observe the current National party, you can work out for yourself what centre-right means identifying those behaviours/values which National are MIA on.
        
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        April 19, 2018 1:55pm
- MrLovebucket
  
  Trump is actually pro immigration. He is just anti illegal immigration. Stupid bint is the opposite
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:54pm
Nostradamus

Update on Penny Bright:

$8,896.00 donated
108 generous donors

This cause page was created on 10 Apr 2018 and closes at 23:59 NZST (UTC +12:00) on 20 Apr 2018.

Penny has 38 hours to raise $12,104…

The GiveaLittle terms:

Upon making a pledge, a Donor agrees to Givealittle pre-authorising a credit card transaction in order to draw down the value of the Pledge when the Project reaches its minimum Donation target. In the event that the Project does not reach its minimum donation target, the Donor’s card will not be charged.
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April 19, 2018 10:13am
- RalphT
  
  Perhaps DPF could do his bit to help Penny by placing a new counter beneath the houses built and trees planted ones at the top of the page? Dollars needed to save Penny from the street? Sadly I think it would move at only a fraction of the speed of the other two.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:40am
- sooty
  
  Must be about 5 days to close of tender.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:44am
- stigie
  
  Ok, she might reach $10000 by midnight tomorrow night, in that case about $11000 short of what she wanted and the hovel sold.
  Interesting thing is, will she refund to all those donors that she bludged off of for her own parasitic self..?
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:51pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stigie:
    
    You’ll see from the GiveaLittle terms (see my comment above) that Penny doesn’t get any donation money unless she gets to $21,000. We can expect a marketing blitz from Penny today and tomorrow – and she might even make time to answer our questions for a change!
    
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    April 19, 2018 1:37pm
- Niz
  
  Hold on, I thought she _refused_ to pay her rates because of some lack of transparency (or something along those lines), not that she was _unable_ to pay them because was broke (as stated on the page).
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:21pm
- KevOB
  
  I understand Penny has until just before close of tenders to actually pay the full sum required under judgement + any accruals into Court in a form acceptable to the Court–not afterwards. She wants rules enforced she has come to the right place. Being out of time or form is to lose. The tenderers have rights and expectations too. If Penny pays in full in time they lose an opportunity otherwise Penny loses.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:38pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    KevOB:
    
    the full sum required under judgement + any accruals
    
    The amount Penny seeks on GiveaLittle ($21,000) is much less than the full sum required under judgment + any accruals (legal costs, administrative costs, interest).
    
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    April 19, 2018 3:15pm
JasonJohns

Fletch and other Christian patriots at this site have made the case for the proper use of the body’s orifices. Now the liberal perverts have condemned Uganda’s leader because he has made the same point. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/ugandas-president-wants-ban-oral-sex-mouth-eating-v1
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April 19, 2018 10:18am
JasonJohns

God made the mouth for eating, not sex. Oral ‘intercourse’ is a sin. Uptick if you agree with this Biblical truth.
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April 19, 2018 10:18am
- JibberJabber
  
  LOL, “biblical truth.”
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:30am
- MCos
  
  There’s an uptick for you, cobber!
  They say NZ is the only country in the world where people vote for someone because they feel sorry for them.
  
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  April 19, 2018 11:05am
- Fletch
  
  Notwithstanding the fact that the HPV you can contract from oral sex can easily lead to throat cancer. Just look at Michael Douglas who it happened to.
  
  https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/oral-sex-causes-throat-cancer-7221082
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:08pm
Captain Mainwaring

Now the UN has told NZ that there are a couple of rapists on PD who have had their ‘human rights’ breached and should be released.
Why does this useless UN outfit continue to exist?
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April 19, 2018 10:26am
- Nostradamus
  
  Andrew Little was going to let them out anyway…
  
  Govt wants to axe new prison and lower prison muster
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:36am
- Jack5
  
  When one of these bad arses re-offends there will be a kickback against Little and other bleeding hearts who are pulling the strings at present.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:56am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And now that crim-hugging lawyer prick Ellis has been flat out defending the bastards on ZB and warning that there will be hundreds of others following them out the door.
  
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  April 19, 2018 5:25pm
DifferentPerspective

Hillary to be impeached?

So it looks like the DOJ are going to be put on the spot to finally do their job about the extreme dishonesty of the FBI and their collusion with the Clinton campaign.

Hillary’s words that surfaced in the WikiLeaks email dump “If that fucking bastard wins we’ll all hang from nooses” could be prophetic. Maybe she wasn’t that stupid after all.

Remember this in the debates

He does like to keep his promises!
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April 19, 2018 10:28am
- All_on_Red
  
  Here’s the Criminal Referral from Congress.
  Looks damning
  https://desantis.house.gov/_cache/files/8/0/8002ca75-52fc-4995-b87e-43584da268db/472EBC7D8F55C0F9E830D37CF96376A2.final-criminal-referral.pdf
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:19pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Well, so what!
    
    Another term is political theatre or-or is it charades?
    
    “Attorney General Jeff Sessions has said there is insufficient basis to launch a special investigation of Hillary Clinton – dashing the hopes of Republicans who believe she should face the same scrutiny as Donald Trump and his administration..”.
    
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jeff-sessions-hillary-clinton-investigation-not-enough-evidence-fbi-latest-a8055296.html
    
    You Buffoon!
    
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    April 19, 2018 12:36pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      “You Buffoon!”
      
      Play nicely Stephieboy. The St Albans team might be watching you!
      
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      April 19, 2018 1:51pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Idiotboy, your article is from Nov 2017
      Bit out of date now.
      
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      April 19, 2018 2:03pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Just to be clear only a true buffoon would cite an article from 6 months ago as proof that something that is a live issue now won’t proceed.
      
      Clearly now that we know so much more about the deep dishonesty of the Clinton crime family and the collusion of the FBI – things have moved on and maybe Clinton is going to get her just desserts and an orange overall.
      
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      April 19, 2018 8:16pm
  - mikewasmild
    
    Could anyone explain the status of this letter from 11 members of Congress to the Attorney-General?
    
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    April 19, 2018 3:33pm
stinkypete

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12035485

oh great 2 rapists get hugs from the UN human rights committee
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April 19, 2018 10:43am
- Jack5
  
  Can a lawyer follower of Kiwiblog tell us whether the United Nations can tell NZ what to do in its justice system?
  
  If so, how do China and several states of the USA stand with the UN over their capital punishment?
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:53am
  - stephieboy
    
    Jack5, I would say the UN has no jurisdiction.
    
    China and the US also plus their power of Veto in the Security Council.
    
    Now, what another piece of paranoia do you want to share on KB?
    
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    April 19, 2018 12:42pm
    - Nev.
      
      …I would say
      Except no one gives a fuck what you have to say, and unless you’re a lawyer you have no fucking knowledge of the subject, do you?
      Or are you passing yourself off as a lawyer now? I wonder what the criminal penalty for that is? Oh that’s right Jail.
      Jesus Christ you’re a fucking imbecile.
      
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      April 19, 2018 1:18pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Nev, zzzzzzzzz … another big yawn ..
        
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        April 19, 2018 1:39pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      I suggest you stop commenting on things that are outside your area of expertise (viewing Celebrity Jihad porn and perving at St Lukes).
      
      Do a Google search for UN country human rights reviews, and you’ll find a clipboard department within the UN that does periodic reviews, makes recommendations, and requires a point-by-point response from the country concerned.
      
      I think I’ve posted a Kiwiblog comment on this process before. Oddly, the review recommendations are usually a bit “light on” when applied to certain types of countries.
      
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      April 19, 2018 2:03pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        More information: https://www.hrc.co.nz/your-rights/human-rights/our-work/universal-periodic-review/
        
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        April 19, 2018 2:32pm
Manolo

How much koha is needed to sort this “problem”?
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/money/business/name-of-local-lager-criticised-you-wouldnt-call-a-beer-hitler/ar-AAw0sS4

The name of a beer from a Waiheke brewing company has come under fire for its links to a prominent Ngāpuhi chief.
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April 19, 2018 10:54am
- Jack5
  
  If they want more leeway to name a beer after a fighting chief, they could call it Bloody Jack, the whalers and sealers’ name for the Far South’s Tuhawaiki.
  
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  April 19, 2018 11:01am
- Paulus
  
  A very old dead Maori chief, who of course was an angel in disguise.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:41pm
Philview

I noticed the editorial in the Otago Daily Times this morning. If prominent print media are starting to get concerned about the Government’s direction then there must be a tipping point soon

https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/editorial/intelligence-panel-step-too-far
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April 19, 2018 10:56am
MrTips

In breaking news, the US actress Anna Kendrick has filed a lawsuit against the New Zealand Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern. The basis for the suit is believed to be character impersonation, loss of social standing and lost earnings.

Speaking from Los Angeles, Kendrick stated: “Sick and tired of this jerk PM ruining my life. Everywhere I go, people say things like:
– how’s your baby going?..I’m not even bloody pregnant!!
-hated you in “Bitch Perfect”!!
– is that movie “Into the Woods” really a disturbing doco about what happens on Labour Party camps?
– who’s your dentist? I’d sack him!

Kendrick also stated that her movie and singing offers have dried up since people mistook her hit song “Miss me when I’m gone” as a hymn to Ardern’s mentor Helen Clark.

“Can you imagine how much shit I’ve had since the Clark woman got booted from the UN? Apparently this Ardern woman idolises Clark and the ex-UN employee tells her what to do on everything…….you can work out the rest” stated Kendrick.

“I’ve lost movie offers, Broadway offers…people think I love Putin and Hamas. I’ve had the CIA question me about being a Russian spy, the New Zealand Police rang me about some sexual assault charge (I don’t even bloody live there!), Exxon have hassled me, some French dude keeps asking for my phone number and to top it off, that Canadian PM keeps asking me to go to India with him. It’s just got too much to bear and this Ardern woman needs to be made to pay”.

This is not the first time a New Zealand politician has been the subject of controversy for character impersonation. Recently, David Seymour from the Act Party was accused of pretending to be the whiny hologram Rimmer from the series Red Dwarf, whereas in the early 2000s, the previous Act Party leader Rodney Hide was accused of impersonating a Sontaran from the sci-fi series Doctor Who.

When approached for comment, Ardern stated she absolutely understands and accepts why Kendrick has acted and she utterly feels for her. She also announced she will establish a working party, contact Woman’s Day and form an advisory group of old white men who have recently been told to fuck off, to comprehensively get the bottom of the issues and deal with long standing, deep seated neglect by previous administrations into the massively important generational issue of climate induced-character impersonation.

**NB: to all you left-wing humourless types, this is all clearly satire.
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April 19, 2018 11:02am
- simpleton1
  
  I did wonder who auditioned for ” into the woods”
  Was there a mix up or a case of, “do not call us, we will call you”
  
  Morrinsville Theatre is proud to present………
  https://www.iticket.co.nz/events/2018/apr/into-the-woods
  Thurs, Friday and double on Saturday 19th- 21st April 2018
  
  Will she be back in time to help with the fish and chip orders.? and take some ‘selfies’
  
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  April 19, 2018 11:28am
- stephieboy
  
  Mr Tips, where did you cut and paste that bit of mag rag gos from?
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:43pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    “mag rag gos” [sic]
    
    It’s better than the porn link (of the POTUS’s daughter) that you found on the Celebrity Jihad website! Have you been treated for your… unusual… interests?
    
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    April 19, 2018 1:44pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Nostradamus, not at all. I was countering Andrei’s moralising over Putin and Trump.
      
      I understand that Dad has instructed the mildly soft porn photos of his daughter to be taken down.
      
      Just in case you wanted to ( if not already ) taken a perv over them.
      
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      April 19, 2018 4:50pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        I was countering Andrei’s moralising over Putin and Trump.
        
        Your comment (linking to a sexually explicit link on the Celebrity Jihad website) is here. Your comment has nothing to do with “countering Andrei’s moralising over Putin and Trump”. In fact, on that thread and this one, you haven’t addressed Andrei at all. So your statement is incorrect.
        
        the mildly soft porn photos
        
        Maggy described it for us:
        
        Good one, stephieboy. Why stop at posting photos of the First Lady’s Labia majora on someone else’s blog? Perhaps you have other photos of ladies’ bits you would like to post here. Oh Goodness, it’s not the First Lady…. It’s pics of the President’s daughter. Excellent stephieboy….. posting pervy pics of the children of politicians.
        
        So, once again, your statement is incorrect.
        
        Are you being misleading and deceptive, Stephieboy?
        
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        April 19, 2018 5:05pm
RW Capitalist

“6 months a slave”
Idea for a new film?
It’s about working people, with ordinary jobs, that have to work for 6 months out of every year to pay taxes, levies and charges to the govt.
What do you think, a hit?
Or just a sad documentary on CoL policy?
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April 19, 2018 11:13am
JibberJabber

If ur a mouthbreather and the plane ur in decompresses, ur probably gonna die. LoL.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/103226206/almost-everyone-in-a-photo-of-southwests-emergency-landing-wore-their-oxygen-masks-wrong
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April 19, 2018 11:24am
UpandComer

For anyone interested in religion.

http://voxday.blogspot.com.au/2018/04/no-one-is-happier-than-satan.html?m=1
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April 19, 2018 11:37am
- stephieboy
  
  UpandComer.
  
  The current President of the US is sure to be.
  
  LOL
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:02pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Every current Pres is forced to be. Religion is more relevant now then it has been since World War 1.
    
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    April 19, 2018 12:38pm
    - stephieboy
      
      UpandComer, the current President a real born again true believer sanctified by Christ?
      
      Forced to be ? Even Liberal ones like Clinton and Obama?
      
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      April 19, 2018 12:48pm
      - UpandComer
        
        You’re so raw. It’s like eating raw garlic onions reading your spiels. Try and learn from JasonJohns, the Michael Cullen of leftie commenters (while you’re like an alcoholic Sue Bradford crossed with Marama Davidson after she’s suffered a microaggression).
        
        Yes, forced to be. They all have to learn a fake sanitised version of Islam they can lie about (‘peace, moderate majority, no true muslims, friendly to diversity blah blah), and a true version of Judaism they have to lie about (shut down any transmission of anything that’s in the Talmud or any relation between Judaism and modern phenomena, from feminism, to communism, to pornography to censorship and speech suppression etc), and a fake version of Christianity they lie about (the crusades were random violence, the inquisition killed 3 trigozrillion women, Christianity was anti-science, Christianity says love your enemies blah blah).
        
        Religion is becoming more and more relevant by the day. Atheists led by third tier intellectuals like Sam Harris are going to simply disappear. They have no children. You are going to see a militant pan-European Christian revival in your life-time in Europe and the United States, led by young men and women. You should enjoy the spectacle. No will living will have seen anything like it. It is going to be the fundamental job of every social democrat to crush it as fast as possible whilst they give free reign to islamic terrorism and proselytization. But they won’t be able to stop it. It is inevitable at this stage.
        
        Anyway, be less shit Stephieboy. Learn from JJ. He/she is quite adroit.
        
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        April 19, 2018 1:08pm
Manolo

The savages’ chant:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/947990/World-War-3-Iran-news-USA-Syria-WW3-nuclear-weapons-missiles-Tehran

A convoy of missiles were paraded through the Iranian capital of Tehran on Wednesday in a shocking warning to the West.

Footage from Ruptly of the parade shows a mobile billboard make its way through the city, reading “down with Israel” and “down with USA”.
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April 19, 2018 11:46am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, 50,000 US boots on the ground on the cards?
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:47pm
- KevOB
  
  It was a National Day. Trump tweets: Iranian’s have parades.
  
  http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/04/18/558869/Iran-Army-Day
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:15pm
- big bruv
  
  Just nuke these rag head countries.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:16pm
rightoverlabour

Why is this guy not getting a medal?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/103121076/alleged-paedophile-hunter-arrested

Paedophiles need to be brought down and exposed.
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April 19, 2018 12:42pm
UpandComer

The media has returned to normal transmission. All the stories are now of how wonderful all the worst leaders in the world (Trudeau, Sadiq Khan, Macron) think Ardern is. Also what her expressions are if asked about babies.

It makes me sick actually seeing Ardern with Trudeau “lets turn Canada into a Caliphate run by Chinatown” and Macron “Europe will have to become Africa in the next 30 years because of African birth-rates” and Sadiq Khan “Terrorism is just PART AND PARCEL of living in a big city” (run by a muslims, populated with muslims).

Every-one of those leaders is a cultural marxist doing their best to destroy their countries and western civilization. Macron would be the best out of the bunch, but what he says vs what he does (just like Ardern) tells the story.
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April 19, 2018 12:56pm
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  I wouldn’t worry about it. Serious world leaders like Angela Merkel think we’re quaint and laughable and Trudeau as well. I’m sure the EU think the same. Merkel doesn’t seem to be doing much with Macron either.
  
  Liberals will say nice things about them because it suits the liberal agenda – and just to be polite.
  
  But there is pathos in Trudeau and Ardern having a ‘hug-fest’ with Sadiq Khan (another shallow adoring liberal) and the usual bunch of children. That is their appropriate level and it’s precisely where they are and will be seen to belong – overgrown, naive children from fairy-tale believing populations – sort of like a human rendition of Frozen – all warm fuzzies.
  
  Charles and Camilla will be happy that anyone wanted to visit at all, however lame – especially someone who hasn’t visited William and Kate.
  
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  April 19, 2018 1:53pm
  - Anne Glen Eden
    
    Is it any surprise? The MSM is the voice of the gay lobby. And they’ve been challenged, so it’s an opportunity for them to ramp up the population into a ‘noble’ lynch mob protecting the ‘poor gay victims’ and stamp the gay authority a bit deeper – I’m sure they hope by destroying all those who don’t agree.
    
    Another excerpt from John Browne’s ‘The Glass Closet: Why Coming Out Is Good Business’ is a description of a corporate rating system that’s been introduced into the business world.
    
    Companies get scored for how pro-gay they are. Those who with a high score are recommended to business partners and wider associates and helped to succeed by the most senior. Those with a lower score are discouraged in the hope of steering them to failure.
    
    I might add, this is why so much has been said about the possible effect on Australian rugby’s ‘bottom line’ – they’re trying to make Folau’s comments financially damaging to bring them into line – and claim it’s just ‘good business’.
    
    Gays are so ‘marginalised’. Not.
    
    It is very definitely ‘bottom of the barrel’ stuff. The only positive aspect is the opportunity for the wider community to discover their own levels of reason, ethics, and integrity – like the Folaus.
    
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    April 19, 2018 2:28pm
    - Anne Glen Eden
      
      Sorry. Wrong place.
      
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      April 19, 2018 2:36pm
JasonJohns

Israel Folau’s point is that god made us in His image.
He wants us to be happy, and he takes an interest in how we use the bodies He designed.
He wants us to use our orifices correctly, for example.
You don’t run a waste pipe through an orchard.
God wants us to use anuses for their natural purposes, not fool about with them.
He’s happy when we visit the toilet. Not so amused when we visit a gay sauna.
And god made our mouths for broccolli and carrots and cucumber and so on. Not for…you know what.
Oral as well as anal sext is an offence against the omnipotent being. As is masturbation, but that’s a whole other discussion…
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April 19, 2018 1:58pm
- UpandComer
  
  The anal tract is a highly delicate membrane. When it tears, feces develop their own little bacteria cultures. Once torn, every subsequent interference tears the membrane further. The continual depositing of more bacteria from more penises makes the culture stronger and more virulent.
  
  The reason there is an every increasing repertoire of terrifying methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) strains at large, as well as increasingly medicine resistant STD’s like syphillis and gonnorhea, is precisely because of ‘running a waste pipe through an orchard’ – although that’s a shit analogy. It’s more like running a waste pipe through a shroud of mosquito net.
  
  That’s why even though HIV medicine is approaching a cure, and excellent at handling symptoms, the gay male life expectancy of 55 isn’t increasing. They’re now being killed off by terrifying bacterias, which they circulate through the general population through tactile contact with surfaces where bacteria then enters into open wounds, often of children.
  
  This is one of the areas of science most prone to euphemism and censorship apart from the science around IQ and implicit bias, and the general cover up of the replication crisis.
  
  Nothing is implied theologically about oral sex now between males and females in monogamous relationships.
  
  But again, science:
  
  http://dermatologytimes.modernmedicine.com/dermatology-times/news/rise-oral-cancer
  
  The emergence of a new type of head and neck cancer has exploded in the last 15 years, more often affecting younger men without the traditional oral cancer risk factors of smoking and alcohol. That threat, according to Richard Jordan, D.D.S., Ph.D, professor of Oral pathology, Pathology and Radiation Oncology, University of California San Francisco, is human papillomavirus, or HPV.
  
  “[The cancer] usually is found on the tongue and oropharynx, and this is clearly linked to human papillomavirus HPV type 16, which is the same high-risk HPV that causes cervical cancer,” says Dr. Jordan, who presented “HPV: An old foe in a new form” at the March 2017 American Academy of Dermatology (AAD) annual meeting in Orlando, Fla.
  
  That’s because women with the femin-virus are getting STD’s off Bi men, then getting cunned, and giving their hapless helpless partner throat cancer.
  
  You’re real weak on this stuff. Oral and anal sex is a life threatening lottery activity, a massive public health risk. If there was any honesty in science instead of politicised dishonesty there would be circulation of these facts. But nope. Better let people throat cancer and die at enormous cost to society then implicate gays and gay culture for the horrific public health outcomes they force on the general community. Particularly the old and vulnerable.
  
  Remember, guy, MRSA is being caused by agriculture and corporations.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:26pm
JasonJohns

So God designs marital sexuality to be like a feast that delights the senses. It’s beyond any meal we could prepare for ourselves, with course after course of succulent samplings, mouth-watering meals, and delectable desserts.

Imagine your favorite food. Is it Chateaubriand? Chicken enchiladas? Seafood gumbo? You look down at your plate in anticipation, ready to bring each bite to your mouth and savor its taste. At which point, I dump a cockroach right in the middle.

Do you want to eat it now? Uh, no.

Some things should be off limits — for food and in the bedroom. Yes, I understand that some cultures eat roaches, but that’s disgusting. And some people also partake in bedroom activities that are as repulsive as eating a six-legged exoskeleton. It’s as if they’ve dumped a cockroach in the middle of an otherwise perfectly good supper!
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April 19, 2018 2:03pm
- UpandComer
  
  That’s not one of your better efforts.
  
  It’s good you’ve been reading the Psalms though ahaha busted.
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4085758/Experts-reveal-sexual-partners-ve-determine-likely-DIVORCE.html
  
  If they’ve had ten or more prior sexual partners – you’re getting a divorce. There is a 33% chance you’ll get it within 5 years. There is basically a 100% chance you’ll be getting one before you die, unless you are happy with infidelity.
  
  It’s one of those weird consistencies between doctrine and social science.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:14pm
  - UpandComer
    
    That’s why monogamy doesn’t exist in the gay community. It doesn’t exist. 100% of the time, a married couple isn’t monogamous for more then 5 years – James Parker, the first gay man to come out in a UK university.
    
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    April 19, 2018 3:11pm
UpandComer

https://www.amazon.com/Judge-People-What-They-Look/dp/1977067972

This man, Edward Dutton, thinks that atheists have a maladaptive neurological mutation, which is reflected in a high propensity to be on the autism specturm. It also manifests itself whereby the dysfunctional mutant brain physiology spreads to the face. Humans have adapted for religious belief. That’s why you can often tell an atheist just by looking at them (although you can often smell them from quite far away). The mutant genes in the brain are reflected by a very high liklihood of asymmetric features and left-handedness.

If you’re an atheist and you don’t like those conclusions, you’re anti-science.
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April 19, 2018 2:04pm
noskire

I must be bored today.
Ardern’s gift of a $15 fluffy kiwi to Merkel appears to be sold in New Zealand by a company called Antics Marketing – https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/natures-kiwi-wsound-12cm/20860710.
Antics have just confirmed to me by email that all of their products are made off-shore.
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April 19, 2018 2:10pm
- noskire
  
  Question to the Prime Minister: Does she support New Zealand industry and New Zealand-made goods?
  Supplementary: (You know how this will go)
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:22pm
  - Brigitte
    
    I know exactly how it will go. First Trev will interrupt and say that it’s not part of the PMs responsibility and rule it out. He’ll then take a few supplementaries off the opposition.
    
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    April 19, 2018 2:33pm
- MCos
  
  I’m pretty cynical about these gifts that world leaders hand out to each other. People like Merkel must have rooms full of the bloody stuff.
  Adern spent $15 on a kiwi, did she? Could have got something similar from a two shop & cut the label off.
  
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  April 19, 2018 7:58pm
wreck1080

Journalists are tearing around the nation asking high profile people with known religious views for their opinion on gay people.

It is incredible , never seen journalists so frantic outside emergencies and disasters.

I see they’ve targeted Brian Tamaki and Michael Jones today.

It really is despicable bottom of the barrel stuff.
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April 19, 2018 2:14pm
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  Is it any surprise? The MSM is the voice of the gay lobby. And they’ve been challenged, so it’s an opportunity for them to ramp up the population into a ‘noble’ lynch mob protecting the ‘poor gay victims’ and stamp the gay authority a bit deeper – I’m sure they hope by destroying all those who don’t agree.
  
  Another excerpt from John Browne’s ‘The Glass Closet: Why Coming Out Is Good Business’ is a description of a corporate rating system that’s been introduced into the business world.
  
  Companies get scored for how pro-gay they are. Those who with a high score are recommended to business partners and wider associates and helped to succeed by the most senior. Those with a lower score are discouraged in the hope of steering them to failure.
  
  I might add, this is why so much has been said about the possible effect on Australian rugby’s ‘bottom line’ – they’re trying to make Folau’s comments financially damaging to bring them into line – and claim it’s just ‘good business’.
  
  Gays are so ‘marginalised’. Not.
  
  It is very definitely ‘bottom of the barrel’ stuff. The only positive aspect is the opportunity for the wider community to discover their own levels of reason, ethics, and integrity – like the Folaus.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:34pm
  - itstricky
    
    The MSM is the voice of the gay lobby.
    
    No one expects…. The Gay Inquisition!
    
    they’re trying to make Folau’s comments financially damaging to bring them into line – and claim it’s just ‘good business’
    
    And there it is ladies & gentlemen…The Conspiracy. No, it’s not because ordinary average Joes got over the whole gay thing 20 years ago and think it is just a bit of a bad look for any organisation to be spouting 2000 year old stereotypes and negative attitudes about homosexual people, it’s because of… da da da….The Gay Inquisition!
    
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    April 19, 2018 5:47pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”the wider community to discover their own levels of reason, ethics, and integrity”….
    
    You left out grandstanding.
    
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    April 19, 2018 6:01pm
JasonJohns

People need to stand up and be proud of their opposition to anal and oral sex and masturbation.
It’s a point of difference between the loony left and normal Kiwis.
In some US states there are still strong laws to keep Biblical morality.
In Georgia for eg it is illegal to engage in sodomy, and sodomy is defined as oral as well as anal sex.
Not coincidentally Georgia has the lowest rate of sperm wastage in the entire United States.
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April 19, 2018 2:20pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Georgia has the lowest rate of sperm wastage in the entire United States.
  
  How is that rate determined?
  What is actually measured:
  Number of Spermatozoa?
  Volume of ejaculate wasted?
  
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  April 19, 2018 7:40pm
JasonJohns

‘Sex toys are banned in some states, such as Alabama. Sexual intercourse between unmarried couples is illegal in Georgia. Flirting is banned in San Antonio, Texas. Oral sex is banned in Indiana. Anal intercourse is banned in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Sexual positions beyond missionary are illegal in Washington, D.C. Sleeping naked is illegal in Minnesota.’
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April 19, 2018 2:22pm
- UpandComer
  
  You’re right JJ.
  
  I agree with you and ((Hans Goldsberg))
  http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/belgium-to-lower-age-of-consent-to-13/
  
  Let’s get rid of the concept of age of consent in sex entirely, and indeed in all social decisions, like euthanasia. That’s just an outmoded, antedeluvian ahistorical, patriarchal, sexist, homophobix remnant. It’s unfit for the JJ epoch, the modern era. These silly notions that the child ‘can’t return the adult sexual gaze with confidence” as the architects of Labour’s SAFE schools policy in Victoria says, are ridiculous.
  
  Let’s harmonize age of consent law across the entire EU using the mechanisms in place, like Hans Goldberg says, to get rid entirely of the age of consent as a concept, in all of Europe.
  
  I also agree with you and Patricia Hewitt:
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10666875/Patricia-Hewitt-called-for-age-of-consent-to-be-lowered-to-ten.html
  
  13 is far too old in a modern age in countries run by JasonJohn’s. Let’s make the age of consent 10 as a preliminary measure to abolishing it entirely in England. After all, now that the Queen from the house of Saxe-Coberg Gotha nee Windsor is established as having a direct line of descent from Mohammad, and the Talmud, Torah and Koran are all very clear on the legality, and indeed, divine blessing, on sex with infants, lets adopt your measures.
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11064944/Rotherham-Police-would-not-investigate-child-abuse-for-fear-of-breaching-victims-human-rights.html
  After all, as we discovered in Rotherham, with 1 million little girls raped across England by muslims immigrants since 1980, we’ve already moved on from these antiquated notions.
  It’s just been overwhelming hearing from feminists like JasonJohns on the implications of the rape of workingclass British girls, not just by muslims, but also Labour personnel in England and the police (who are busily turning themselves into a trannie affirmative action foundation in England, and anti-free speech operation).
  
  What is that passage in brave new world. Ah, here it is. This is the JasonJohns formula:
  
  “He let out the amazing truth. For a very long period before the time of Our Ford, and even for some generations afterwards, erotic play between children had been regarded as abnormal (there was a roar of laughter); and not only abnormal, actually immoral (no!): and had therefore been rigorously suppressed”.
  
  “”We had Elementary Sex for the first forty minutes,” she answered. “But now it’s switched over to Elementary Class Consciousness.”
  
  The Director walked slowly down the long line of cots. Rosy and relaxed with sleep, eighty little boys and girls lay softly breathing. (2.71-2)”
  
  I agree with you entirely JasonJohns. Any notion of sexual mores needs to be abolished in the continuation of the final aims of the sexual revolution, feminism, queer theory and social democracy.
  
  You must be a genius, you and Aldous Huxley have a shared understanding.
  
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  April 19, 2018 3:08pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Remember, this is why there is this weird illogical alliance between social democrat police state speech killing athiest Queer activists and islam and our fellow ‘Judeo Christians’. There is only one commonality between these ideologies which otherwise would destroy each other, and it’s the vision of Aldous Huxley writing in the 1930’s, and of course the common host upon which they feed as parasites – western civilization. They’re so close. They’ve achieved Huxley’s vision in effect in England. They have Sharia in Sweden. They’ve got it in enclaves of Germany, France and the United States. They have the endorsement and unconscious collaboration of the JasonJohns. Lets see if in our lifetimes it suddenly becomes hilarious to consider that pederasty was ever illegal – after all, in queer theories false and fake version of the Greek classicism – it was the most natural thing in the world! Just ask Richard Dawkins, the atheist Pope.
    
    Lol enough from me.
    
    But yeah, Folau. What a bad, bad guy. Just reprehensible. It’s like another Holocaust.
    
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    April 19, 2018 3:20pm
  - stephieboy
    
    UpandComer , from what I can gather lowering the age of consent to 13 is just fake news ,
    
    https://www.business2community.com/world-news/european-union-voting-lower-legal-age-sexual-consent-16-13-fake-news-01940695
    
    Your link provides only the barest of details with no sources cited
    
    Try again
    
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    April 19, 2018 4:00pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Just to clarify…
  
  Your boyfriend went ATM last night on you and your freaking out about it???
  
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  April 19, 2018 4:02pm
- lofty
  
  Yes yes but who polices these silly regs?
  Consenting adults will do what consenting adults do JJ.
  
  bollocks rules won’t stop them.
  
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  April 19, 2018 6:38pm
rightoverlabour

More proof the New Zealand councils are staffed by morons

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/103073841/new-pool-laws-about-to-get-even-more-draining

And they need consent for the fucking fence… And emptying it isn’t allowed either

FFS How many kids have drowned with these covers???????

When are the tanks rolling into Wellington? We need to get rid of the government and the councils. I trust the military….
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April 19, 2018 3:55pm
- mikewasmild
  
  What tanks? The New Zealand Army has not had tanks since the 1970s.
  
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  April 19, 2018 4:00pm
  - nasska
    
    Perhaps we could crowd fund a few.
    
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    April 19, 2018 4:07pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Aren’t we already…
      
      No wait, sorry that link was for a warship in Kingston
      
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      April 19, 2018 4:38pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    mikewasmild:
    
    The New Zealand Army has not had tanks since the 1970s.
    
    Have you checked this point with “JasonJohns” (who claims to be well-connected to NZDF sources)?
    
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    April 19, 2018 4:08pm
    - nasska
      
      NZ’s tanks have long been recycled probably at the insistence of Parliamentarians who foresaw the possibility of them rolling up Molesworth St.
      
      Fortunately during WW2 Bob Semple was a visionary who saw no reason why “No 8” technology couldn’t be used to defend NZ & designed a tank.
      
      …..”Originating out of the need to build military hardware from available materials, the tank was built from corrugated iron on a tractor base”……
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Semple_tank
      
      Something like that could do the trick.
      
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      April 19, 2018 4:24pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        I think this was a warm-up for when the NZDF tanks come out from their hideout in the Ureweras:
        
        National MP Shane Ardern chose a different way of going up Parliament’s front steps yesterday – at the wheel of an elderly tractor called Myrtle. … Mr Ardern, a Taranaki farm-owner, grabbed the wheel of the tractor during yesterday’s farmer protest against the proposed flatulence tax and gunned it up Parliament’s steps, to the cheers of a crowd of several hundred protesters.
        
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        April 19, 2018 4:28pm
      - nasska
        
        Once again farmers showed the rest of NZ how to progress an idea. 🙂
        
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        April 19, 2018 4:34pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        And, notice, once again it was a tax proposed by Labour!
        
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        April 19, 2018 4:41pm
  - Jack5
    
    Anyone remember the little Valentine tanks of World War 2 vintage that the NZ Army used to have? Some were distributed around regional centres for territorial units.
    
    The little Valentine was classed as an infantry tank. The Russians, with their T34s, didn’t think much of Western Allies’ tanks, but they liked these little tanks as second-line scouts. Britain sent thousands of them to Russia under the Lend-Lease programme, and Moscow requested they be kept in production till the end of the war.
    
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    April 19, 2018 5:08pm
  - RF
    
    M41s were used by our army in the 70s.
    
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    April 19, 2018 6:02pm
  - lofty
    
    I call bullshit on that Mike!!
    
    Every time I drive past Waiouru I see 2 of them on the side of the road..so there.
    
    P.S. thanks for the continuing laughs.
    
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    April 19, 2018 6:41pm
    - mikewasmild
      
      I think there is a Centurion (1950s) and a Scorpion (1960s) there. The Army pretended that the Scorpions could still be used long after they were obsolete, and they were never classified as tanks anyway.
      But some ancient square-basher will correct me if I’m wrong.
      
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      April 19, 2018 7:05pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        NZ was going to keep 3 Scorpions… 1 for the Army Museum and 2 for target practice.
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=151748
        
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        April 19, 2018 7:56pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Maybe Vlad the bad would lend some.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:06pm
Nostradamus

Here’s one for the Kiwiblog experts: Four-way stop sign intersection in Rockingham confuses motorists

Perth drivers already have issues with merging. Now they are being asked to navigate this – a four-way stop sign intersection. Yes, four stop signs at an intersection. What could possibly go wrong?

Main Roads recently installed the traffic measure in the City of Rockingham and it already has motorists confused. Dash cam footage of the new intersection at Flinders Lane and Kent Street, posted on the Perth’s Worst Drivers Facebook page Tuesday, shows drivers coming to a stop and trying to figure what to do next.

The video has already sparked debate on the page with many posing the most obvious of questions, who goes first?

The dash cam footage is hilarious! 🙂
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April 19, 2018 5:26pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  We have four-way stop signs in the back streets of Petone. Same as in many parts of the USA.
  The rules are simple : first in, first out, irrespective of which way you are going.
  
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  April 19, 2018 7:55pm
Viking2

I see Andrew has been “into the mine”, well the front door in truth.
That’s not what he promised but into the mine proper.

The families of those who died in the Pike River Mine disaster say they have taken “one massive step forward” by entering the mine’s portal.

Pike Family representatives Anna Osbourne and Sonya Rockhouse and Minister Responsible for Pike River Andrew Little were among a small group that went 30 metres in to the first concrete seal on Thursday – further than relatives have been allowed to go previously.

Little said walking in with the families was an “emotional journey”, which demonstrated a safe re-entry was possible.

‘We owe it to those families to re-enter the drift and retrieve evidence and the remains of their loved ones.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/103249206/pike-river-families-take-massive-step-forward-by-entering-mine-portal
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April 19, 2018 6:21pm
- lifesgood
  
  Oh that’s hilarious…they walked a few steps into the entry. When they actually walk right up to the rock fall then I might pay attention.
  
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  April 19, 2018 7:25pm
- RF
  
  More publicity bull shit from Corpse hugging Labour.
  
  How low can they go……..
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:50pm
Keeping Stock

Whilst it is sad that Penny Bright has ovarian cancer, which I wouldn’t wish on anyone, her tearful plea on One News tonight that “It’s not fair!” had a hollow ring to it.

Ms Bright has had ample opportunities to settle her dispute with Auckland Council, but she has refused to back down. She alone is responsible for Auckland Council taking action to recover a debt which now dates back 10 years.

On a personal note I wish Ms Bright well in her battle with cancer, but that does not in any way discharge a debt which the High Court has upheld as outstanding.
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April 19, 2018 6:28pm
- lofty
  
  Penny well knows my view on her actions, stubbornness is one thing, but the scrap with cancer, is another.
  
  Penny if you read this, you know I wish you nothing but the best in your battle.
  
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  April 19, 2018 7:22pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Totally agree KS, and I wouldn’t wish cancer on anyone, not even Penny.
  But if the test is negative and proves to be a desperate last-ditch attempt at sympathy, it will blow up in her face and deservedly so.
  
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  April 19, 2018 7:58pm
  - sooty
    
    It could not have come at a more convenient time, I would think. Playing to the heart strings on the give a little page. Hopefully she only gets a little.
    
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    April 19, 2018 9:14pm
waikatogirl

Penny Bright and her fight to save her house from the nasty council has made the TV1 news tonight. She also says she may have ovarian cancer. If that is true Penny then stress is no good for you. Pay your rates and put the fight with the council behind you. You say you are just trying to make the council accountable, but life is short Penny and sometimes for your own health you have to let the battle with the council go. Sounds like it is time to do what your body is telling you. Stop being stubborn, give in and have your home as a safe haven while you fight the cancer. Best wishes for your health Penny.
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April 19, 2018 6:30pm
- noskire
  
  Agreed.
  Penny, like most regulars here on Kiwiblog, I disagree with your politics and ideology.
  But waikatogirl has some very sound advice, and I don’t really think any of us here would wish you to suffer.
  Take the advice of waikatogirl.
  All the best.
  
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  April 19, 2018 6:54pm
- lifesgood
  
  What does “may” have ovarian cancer mean? Does she or doesn’t she? I wouldn’t wish it on her nevertheless. Am I a little bit cynical about the announcing of this?
  
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  April 19, 2018 7:23pm
  - stigie
    
    Was thinking the same and hope she does get well again but can’t help thinking its a bit cynical and the timing of her house going under the hammer !~
    
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    April 19, 2018 7:40pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    According to the news report she is awaiting the results of a biopsy.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/auckland-activist-penny-bright-may-have-ovarian-cancer-asks-forced-sale-house-halted
    She has had 5 litres of fluid removed from her stomach (perhaps abdomen is meant?) — not a good
    sign.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:15pm
  - noskire
    
    I really hope that is not the case.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:56pm
Kimbo

Best wishes for your treatment and recovery, Penny.
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April 19, 2018 6:31pm
- nasska
  
  Can’t figure out who would downtick Kimbo’s 6.31pm but they’ll be happy to know that it was possibly the most churlish gesture I’ve seen on KB.
  
  Health is not politics. I disagree with everything that Penny does, the way she does it & what she stands for.
  
  But I too also sincerely wish her a speedy recovery.
  
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  April 19, 2018 6:55pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    You got one too.
    Bad form in my view.
    We may bag Penny for the rates but having cancer is no laughing matter and I for one hope that she beats it.
    
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    April 19, 2018 7:00pm
    - Swifty
      
      It’s just some girlyman trying to get his rocks off.
      
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      April 19, 2018 7:03pm
  - Swifty
    
    Good man.
    
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    April 19, 2018 7:00pm
waikatogirl

I agree nasska. I even broke my promise not to engage with the mad woman on KB but even Penny doesn’t deserve ovarian cancer.

When she said she would continue the fight from the oncology ward, I do hope she didn’t mean her obsession with the council!
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April 19, 2018 7:06pm
noskire

New parking regulations in Auckland have been announced.
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April 19, 2018 7:15pm
Nostradamus

The One News item is here.

Two possible scenarios:

1. Penny and Auckland Council enter into a rate postponement arrangement for the full outstanding amount (base rates + interest and legal costs) and the tender process is abandoned.

(This depends on 2 things. First, Auckland Council must have a legal right to instruct the High Court to abandon the process. I’m not sure that Auckland Council has that legal right. Second, someone has to pay the High Court’s administrative costs to date, which may be tacked on to Penny’s outstanding amount.)

2. Penny raises $21,000 on GiveaLittle; Penny pays that amount to Auckland Council; Penny and Auckland Council enter into a rate postponement arrangement for the remaining amount; and the tender process is abandoned.

(This depends on 3 things. First, Penny would need to instruct her lawyers to release the money (held in escrow) contrary to her representation on the GiveaLittle page. Nasska asked a question about this the other day, and I don’t know what the trust account rules say. The other 2 things are the same as for option 1.)

Assuming no one steps in to settle the full outstanding amount, I can’t see (without detailed consideration) any other options.
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April 19, 2018 7:19pm
- Swifty
  
  Thanks Nosty.
  
  Given the country-wide coverage tonight on the news one must suspect her givealittle will get a boost – just 24 hours out from D-Day.
  
  How timely. How fortunate. How planned…….
  
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  April 19, 2018 7:24pm
- Nostradamus
  
  An interesting development on Penny’s Facebook page (an hour ago):
  
  Graham McCready: I filed a tender for Penny’s house today. The tender closes on Tuesday 24 April at 4:00 pm. My bid is for $150,000 which is just above my estimate of the reserve set by the High Court Registrar.
  
  So here’s a third scenario: McCready is the successful buyer and allows Penny to continue living there (possibly with a private financial arrangement between them – eg he registers a first-ranking mortgage and eventually gets repaid out of the house sale proceeds).
  
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  April 19, 2018 7:28pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    How would McCready, a serial bankrupt, pay for the house?
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/9781505/McCready-wants-out-of-bankruptcy-early
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:23pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Keeping Stock:
      
      Judging by this article, McCready (even if he was unsuccessful in his early-release application) would be a discharged bankrupt by now. Goodness knows where he’ll find the money. No bank will touch him. But look at the computer hardware in the photo – it’s seriously ancient – like Commodore 64 style!
      
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      April 19, 2018 8:30pm
mikewasmild

I have today found a fascinating publication – New Zealand Voice magazine. It seems to have been going for a year and is published quarterly by the genius behind the famous Franklin e-local (https://www.elocal.co.nz/) – Mykeljon Winckel.
This would be rich source for resident parody nutcases JasonJohns and UpandComer.
Besides the usual irrelevant columnists who are obviously not too fussy about who publishes their nonsense – Michael Laws, Don Brash and Judith Collins – there is an entertaining line up of articles from anti-fluoride nutters, pseudohistorians and the like. So if you want to read about the entertaining fantasy that a Nazi submarine was wrecked off Northland in 1945 – this is the mag for you.
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April 19, 2018 7:47pm
- nasska
  
  ….”fantasy that a Nazi submarine was wrecked off Northland in 1945″….
  
  What do you mean…..”fantasy”? 🙂
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:09pm
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    There are many such fantasies. Some folks think a Japanese mini-submarine sank in the Hauraki Gulf.
    Make up a story and you can guarantee someone will believe it.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:21pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Mikewasmild
  
  While you’re at it, would you like to recommend some reading material for EAD and Starboard? And before you recommend Hagley Park Tales – the public library lost that a long time ago!
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:23pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”Hagley Park Tales – the public library lost that a long time ago”…..
    
    I bet Dad half-inched it! 🙂
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:32pm
    - stigie
      
      Iv’e only come in on the back end of this, is there a publication coming out called the Hagley Park Times..?
      What will it feature i wonder..?
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:03pm
      - mikewasmild
        
        It would certainly feature the ‘back end’, as you so delicately put it.
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:07pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I hope it gives the time that the bluebells are on display.
        
        I would also like a brief review of ‘The Wrestlers”
        
        (Why do people have to dump works of art in open parklands?)
        
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        April 19, 2018 9:07pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      One mystery that remains unsolved is the disappearance of All You Need To Know About LAXatives from the science collection. It doesn’t make any sense!
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:07pm
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    EAD would like Mykeljon Winckel’s stuff – plenty of neo-Nazi links there. But he might also like an even more extreme NZ magazine – Uncensored. It has even more bullshit, and EAdolf would surely appreciate the article on Jewish bankers who backed Hitler to start WWII!
    As for starboard, I assess both of these publications as above his reading age.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:40pm
    - stephieboy
      
      mm, but what about this from Voice Magazine?
      
      Suppressed The Ancient Maori celtic Connection
      
      https://store.elocal.co.nz/collections/individual-issues/products/new-zealand-voice-october-2017
      
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      April 19, 2018 8:43pm
stigie

That third scenario would be plausible if McCready was the only tender wouldn’t Nostra..?
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April 19, 2018 7:47pm
- Nostradamus
  
  The odds of a $150,001 offer are quite high, Stigie 🙂
  
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  April 19, 2018 8:02pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Especially when the One News story tonight said the rateable value of the property was in excess of $1m.
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:25pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      That’s what homes.co.nz says but they don’t take condition into account.
      
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      April 19, 2018 9:47pm
DifferentPerspective

What’s the point of an ankle bracelet if not for home detention?

Still I hope I’m wrong and you are right.
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April 19, 2018 8:18pm
sooty

Penny had better hope for more tenders or she’s going to get stuff all and she will be living down the park in a tent.
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April 19, 2018 9:05pm
Tauhei Notts

I have watched snippets of the opening of the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Britain, attended by our heavily pregnant prime minister. As I watched it I thought; what would happen if she was to prematurely give birth, in England.
I think it would give a whole new meaning to that old expression;
“Pommy bastard”.
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April 19, 2018 9:25pm
RF

Thank god. The queen will sleep easy after the commie chicks visit.

The commie has good news for the queen as she will tell her that she supports Charles taking over when she gives up the crown.

On the down side the commie has yet to decide if she will bring up the death of the queens last dog that recently died.

As her cat paddles was book marked by a car she knows how she feels.

FFS is this bloody idiot possessed.
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April 19, 2018 9:34pm
- mikewasmild
  
  Apparently a main topic for the Commonwealth meeting is the reluctance of many to accept that the next UK sovereign needs to be Head of the Commonwealth.
  
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  April 19, 2018 9:46pm
EAD_TWO

Overheard at CHOGM:

“Does New Zealand’s ban on oil drilling mean Prince Harry is banned from visiting“?
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April 19, 2018 9:55pm
- RF
  
  Does our new Road Transport MP have a hot line for fatal accident notifications. She appears to have a number of quick fix solutions for our terrible road deaths and wants to re invent the wheel.
  
  Not wishing to be insensitive to grieving Next of Kin but I have to report that tonight 3 people have been killed near Thames.
  
  So sad.
  
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  April 19, 2018 10:06pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    I saw that. Drove that bridge on our honeymoon. You get a tail-gater or a truck with a driver that falls asleep at the wheel and your heart is in your mouth. So sad and it needs to be taken home to Labour that the highways need to be improved and that’s where their energy would be better spent instead of slagging off National.
    
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    April 20, 2018 1:00am
    - rangitoto
      
      That bridge was replaced seven years ago.
      
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      April 20, 2018 1:32am
RF

Based on a heads up from my mentor Kimbo I wish to withdraw the reference to the funny looking ankle bracelet.
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April 19, 2018 10:28pm
Monique Watson

That Phil Twyford is a totally inauthentic twat. Jeez. He’s pulled the guts out of rural New Zealand with canceling upgrades to SH1. Northland is going to be really affected.
I might have to take myself off to Colorado to watch the ruggers and cool down.
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April 20, 2018 12:42am
- mikewasmild
  
  It’s only rugby league – not the real thing.
  
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  April 20, 2018 6:48am
  - softail 1450
    
    MM,tell the Aussies that .
    
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    April 20, 2018 7:23am
publicwatchdog

UPDATE FROM PENNY BRIGHT.

Ovarian cancer is not yet confirmed – got a 1-2 week wait for results of yesterday’s biopsy.
We shall see …

Feel a lot better having had 5 litres of fluid removed from my stomach.

Can’t speak highly enough about the wonderful medical teams at Hutt and Auckland hospitals from whom I had treatment from Black Friday 13 April 2018.
(Travelled south for a 50 year Kuranui College reunion of our 1968 3rd Form year, Sat 14 April at the Tin Hut – close to Featherston for which I was released from Hutt Hospital to attend).
Had acute abdominal pain early Black Friday morning while staying with my sister in Upper Hutt, so ‘self-presented’ at the Emergency Dept of Hutt Hospital that afternoon, where they Xrayed, ultra sound scanned and CAT scanned me.
Told me to get an urgent referral from my GP to get more diagnostic work carried out in Auckland.
So – that’s what I did.
Was admitted to Ward 97 Gynaecology Auckland Hospital on Monday evening and went home today Thursday 19 April.

(Never a dull bloody moment in the life of Bright.)

Being bullied, harassed, persecuted and prosecuted by Auckland Council for my ‘one person rates revolt’ in fighting for the transparency in public spending on private consultants and contractors to which citizens are lawfully entitled – seems to have taken its toll on my health.

It has been hugely stressful.

(Remember – back in 2010 at a time when I was disputing and refusing to pay Auckland City Council rates – I got a ‘Good Citizen’s Award’ from the Eden/Albert Community Board for work to help stop water privatisation and transparency in Council contracting.)

Ok – do you support my work and are you prepared to ‘put your money where your mouth is’?

(I know the ‘being broke’ thing – if you’re broke too – I understand 🙂

Penny Bright Needs Your Help URGENTLY To Save Her House!
Donate NOW via givealittle: https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/help-anti-corruption-whistle-blower-penny-bright

Halfway there.
Need about another $10,500 by midnight Friday 20 April 2018.

That’s 525 x $20

Because a number of people asked me to do this – I have set up this Give A Little Page with the intention to raise the $20,000 in outstanding rates, where it will sit ‘in escrow’ in a solicitor’s account, up to 20 April 2019, while I work together with Auckland Council and CCOs to finish the job and finish ‘opening the books’.

What do I want?

The following details of awarded contracts to be published on the websites of Auckland Council and CCOs under ‘Procurement-Awarded Contracts’:

* The unique contract number.
* The name of the consultant /contractor.
* A brief description of the scope of the contract.
* Contract start / finish dates.
* The exact dollar value of every contract – including those sub-contracted.
* How the contract was awarded, by direct appointment or public tender.

That’s it.

Plain, simple, transparent and accountable.

Penny Bright
‘Anti-Corruption whistle-blower’.
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- softail 1450
  
  I hope this isnt a con job going on .
  
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  April 20, 2018 7:27am
softail 1450

What can be said ?
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