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Paulus Gnome

The Prime Minister, Miss Ardern, has been assured by Mr Hagar of the national special security committee, that there has been no Russian interference or influence on New Zealand’s computer networks in the recent spate of worldwide cyber-attacks.

In a statement, Hagar said: ‘nothing to see here comrades, move along’, ‘look out for the release of my new book’ and ‘there are no Russian spies in New Zealand’
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April 18, 2018 8:00am
artemisia

So Housing NZ took a tenant to the Tenancy Tribunal for having personal property in the common area walkway, which is against the Body Corporate rules. I assume Housing NZ followed proper process and issued a 14 day notice to fix first. The TT threw it out, apparently as there was insufficient evidence. Mr Twyford named it petty and vindictive and said Housing NZ has to be compassionate.

My question to Mr Twyford, and the Tenancy Tribunal – with high density mixed private and social housing coming right up have they considered the categorical imperative?

Like what would happen if everyone did it.

There are good reasons for the rule of no personal property in common areas, health and safety, and emergency exits top of the list. The building should fail its annual BWOF for common area obstructions. IMO the Body Corporate did the right thing. Housing NZ did not, as sufficient evidence was not provided to support its application.

Housing NZ tenants have to abide by Body Corporate rules, as do all other occupants. Perhaps Housing NZ did not do enough to provide evidence, but the BC rules in this case are clear. The TT should uphold adherence to BC rules, provided sufficient evidence is presented. Housing NZ tenants should not get a free pass compared to other occupants.

High density mixed use unit titled properties with significant social housing – expect more and more trouble. Especially if first responders can’t get access through common areas and someone is injured or dies.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018641104/hnz-s-actions-petty-and-vindictive-phil-twyford
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April 18, 2018 8:02am
- waikatogirl
  
  Clear egress, exits kept clear at all times are mandatory in case of fire. There is no exception! Apparently now it is down to feels of those who leave their crap in the way.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:24am
- fernglas
  
  You’ve hit it on the head, Artemisia. Having lived in a couple of apartments with a bodycorp, I can tell you that even well educated and behaved New Zealanders have trouble dealing with the need to comply with the rules. Partly that is because there is no cultural expectation of that type of conformity. So god knows what will happen with these new developments. Who will chair the bodycorp, authorise expenses and enforce the rules? Nightmare city.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:51am
starboard

Merkel backs Ardern. Say no more.
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April 18, 2018 8:04am
- cmm
  
  Merkel is still a commie East German politician at heart.
  
  When she was about Cindy’s age the wall was coming down and she was planning how to infect the west with her politics.
  
  Of course she has a soft spot for Cindy.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:19am
  - oldpark
    
    Same bitchMerkel said NZs should be proud of the Peters selected PM known as “Commie Chic Comrade “Ardern. Cant think of anything up to now that Peters selected Coalition of Corruption and Chaos has done to favour the well being and lifestyle of NZs’
    Latest dum dum announcement by Peters selected gang of no hopers. Natural gas will be a memory within ten years. Wonder who or what is proud of such a mad dog decision.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:30am
  - stephieboy
    
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    cmm,
    
    “Merkel is still a commie East German politician at heart.”
    
    And an ex Stasi Chief?
    
    LOL
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:31am
    - KiWombat
      
      Those penis enlargement pills must have worked Ralph, you’re an even bigger dick than you were last week !
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:07am
    - AJP
      
      He Stephieboy,
      do you know anything about Merkel’s past?
      What makes you an expert on East German politics?
      Have you ever been there or lived there?
      Do you actually have any expertise on anything?
      I don’t think that you know anything especially reading some of your 22K or so comments on this blog.
      You just a sad little guy living most likely in your mothers basement, not having a meaningful job.
      
      PS: before you spout any of your filth. I grew up behind the iron curtain in East Germany before my family fled to the West. I know about Miss Merkel and her political affiliations. Believe me, she hasn’t changed!
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:59am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Hey Steph, you’d better get off the goat and nip to the shops for the latest Penthouse. Stephanie (I’m not in it for the $$$) Clifford bares all to tell all – for a price, I guess.
      Great articles in Penthouse for those who can’t read pictures.
      
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      April 19, 2018 3:52am
  - AgainstTheFlow
    
    Merkel who threw open Germany’s border because she saw a photo of a drowned child on a beach?
    
    The Merkel who shut down Germany’s nuclear power plants because of Fukushima, and now Germany burns more coal to make up the shortfall?
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:56am
    - Paulus
      
      Wasn’t the drowned child found later to actually be the child of the man who trafficking boat turned over in the surf off Gaza.
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:22am
      - Random T Person
        
        Yes. Still a terrible thing, though, poor boy.
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:37am
  - RF
    
    Merkel & Ardern
    
    The commie chook and the commie chick.
    
    The dynamic duo.
    
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    April 18, 2018 10:43am
    - sooty
      
      Not a lot of age difference between them!
      
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      April 18, 2018 12:35pm
- Paulus
  
  So we are told by the New Zealand sycophant media.
  Merkel was happy to get rid of her in case she sprogged in Germany and Merkel does not need another illegal immigrant.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:31am
- Rich Prick
  
  Merkel says New Zealanders should be proud of Cindy. Fuck that. We know the airhead better than she.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:40am
Monique Watson

Oh fuck him, Hagar, the conspiracy theorist from three generations ago. He lost his credibility a while back and should be out reading palms for a living. Still. He’s on a wicket. Spin a yarn, write books that make no money and watch the sleazes in the MSM come fawning to fluff him.
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April 18, 2018 8:05am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I think he’s a liesure-class Trustifarian, so a natural leftie.
  
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  April 18, 2018 11:10am
Lee C

Well starboard, Hitler backed Chamberlain….

and that turned out really well.
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April 18, 2018 8:05am
- stephieboy
  
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  Lee C, yes with Chamberlain declaring war on Germany.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:34am
  - KiWombat
    
    Everybody makes mistakes – just ask your parents !
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:09am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Funny, that was his last act as PM. He then faded away into a life of oblivion, unlike his replacement.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:20am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Unfair, Chamberlin rather “saw the light” after Hitler continued his belligerence after the Munich agreement. He set up the security guarantee for Poland that committed the UK to war, and oversaw other early initiatives including the rather inadequate campaign in Norway. He resigned when that Norwegian campaign was a failure and the British and French troops had to be withdrawn.
      
      He remained a member of Churchill’s wartime cabinet for a short time until he was forced to resign by ill health, and he died in November 1940.
      
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      April 18, 2018 10:43am
Southern Raider

With the massive push by Labour to alternative energy sources have they considered the storage implications eg they don’t exist on mass scale?

Have they considered all the people on gas will have to switch that load to electricity which will coincide with massive increases in electric vehicles, whereby the local lines distribution networks won’t even be able to handle part of one of these events let alone both?

Has the prime minister or any environmentalist ever thought about where the chemical compounds to make solar panels and batteries come from, what the conditions of those mines are, how polluted the local environment is and what the working conditions are?
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April 18, 2018 8:09am
- Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
  
  BMW M3 vs Prius on top gear…..
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F04MXepYiBs
  
  EV Battery nickle from canadian mine to europe to china to Japan……very environmentally friendly
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:19am
  - stephieboy
    
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    If mined appropriately and with care.
    
    “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do…”
    
    Ralph Waldo Emerson.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:36am
  - Random T Person
    
    I bought my wife one of those M3s, a convertible 2010 model. It is a LOT of fun to drive…(I get a crappy old X5…but do get to drive hers, occasionally).
    The M3 uses about 10 litres per 100km on a drive from Whakatane to Auckland, with the occasional hard acceleration to enjoy that V8 and its 309kW of sheer awesomeness.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:05am
    - KiWombat
      
      Use it while you can Random !
      
      We should all have an M3 in the garage before Cinders turns off the supplies !
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:11am
      - Random T Person
        
        Yeh you can imagine how much I am loving the petrol taxes and oil n gas shutdown…
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:19am
- hullkiwi
  
  Come on you are asking Labour & the Greens to think beyond what they “feels thinks right. You Don’t need evidence for that, it only gets in the way of spinning a sound bite.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:20am
- Komata
  
  SR
  
  Nope; why should they? The unicorn poo and fairy dust that dominates their world and minds will make everything all right, so why worry…
  
  (Pssst; wanna buy a bridge?)
  
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  April 18, 2018 12:57pm
- Piniwi
  
  But SR it will be interesting to see the results of several OIA the industry have made to find out the details behind this Captains call.
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:04pm
starboard

Ardern looked like a stupid giggly school girl standing next to Frau Merkel.
Fuck, what an embarrassment.
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April 18, 2018 8:09am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Did you see the “gift” Ardern gave Merkel? The respective facial expressions say it all…
  
  https://twitter.com/DrJessBerentson/status/986315440434511872
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:14am
  - Monique Watson
    
    🙂 That’s gold, that is. One step up from a key-ring.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:29am
    - Piniwi
      
      @ you mean the Sheep Shagger key rings that are beside those stuffed Kiwi’s in the $2 shops? They loose a lot in translation if they are given to a friend where sheep are not seen.
      
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      April 18, 2018 10:08pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    A cheap, shitty kiwi is all she could manage? And made in China, no doubt. Ardern’s imagination is not that brilliant. I imagine it’s going ‘straight to the pool room”.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:29am
    - Fletch
      
      Not as imaginative as Obama re-gifting of a Weta Workshop Hobbit sword to John Key when Key visited the U.S as Prime Minister.
      
      Before the 30 minute meeting, Key had been presented with the president’s formal gift of a replica Hobbit sword that came from half way around the world – New Zealand. It was made by Weta Workshop in Wellington and the gift was organised by Hobbit backers Warner Brothers.
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5330471/Key-wraps-up-US-visit
      
      I mean, how dumb do you have to be? Carrying coals to Newcastle and all that.
      
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      April 18, 2018 8:46am
    - Piniwi
      
      But KKKKatee what can we expect when sweet cheeks shopped for the gifts that the Commie Chick was provided for her trip. She spent too much on her Pacific junket.
      
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      April 18, 2018 10:10pm
  - Justitia
    
    She’s keeping the matching set of Rotovegas teaspoons for Teresa, they’re special.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:44am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Couldn’t she find a plastic tiki?
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:47am
  - Harkman
    
    What a trash gift, probably made in China too. Look at her teeth? They are wider than her head. This woman is an embarrassment.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:10am
  - cmm
    
    c’mon Shayne, do the face:
    
    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/3798012-300×168.jpg
    
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Shanejones-facepalm-1.jpg
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:33am
- stephieboy
  
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  starboard , who out in the real world actually cares other than those on KB who share your echo chamber ?
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:40am
  - Swifty
    
    That line is getting a little thin after hundreds of uses by you.
    
    Can you not give it a rest now?
    
    Especially as it is also pointless.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:56am
  - KiWombat
    
    You can always tell when Ralph’s dropped in – the toilet hasn’t been flushed and the goat’s pregnant !
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:14am
  - Harkman
    
    Don’t go celebrating I gave you a thumbs up by mistake. Fat fingers.
    
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    April 18, 2018 11:09am
wiseowl

Veteran UK reporter Fisk has been to Douma to check out the so called gas attacks.
It appears those in the video that nearly started WW3 were suffering from oxygen starvation .
There was NO gas attack.
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April 18, 2018 8:10am
- fernglas
  
  Fisk didn’t say that at all. He said that he spoke to one of the doctors who gave that explanation but Fisk was clearly sceptical about its truth. His conclusion seems to be that no-one really knows.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:17am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    There are many gases that cause lack of Oxygen to breath
    Ammonia
    Chlorine
    Forget the name of it but there’s a gas that was banned as a fire suppressant for this reason.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:46am
    - rangitoto
      
      Halon. It was banned under the Montreal protocol. The banning was nothing to do with its oxygen binding propoerties. In fact that’s is exactly what you want for fire suppression.
      
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      April 18, 2018 10:20am
    - Ed Snack
      
      CO2 works pretty well too, CO is itself not lethal because it excludes oxygen but actually replaces it in the blood; and is actually flammable.
      
      But I still come round to a key issue, why would Assad want to use Chlorine ? It is not effective as a battlefield weapon (and in this case “appears” to have targeted civilians anyway) and he has no need to terrorise any further in an area he is on the verge of reconquering by conventional means. If we want motive, the Jihadis have it in spades; Assad, not really unless you simply want to believe that he is such an evil bastard that he would do this for sport.
      
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      April 18, 2018 10:49am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Chlorine gas attacks the respiratory system pretty damn quick.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_gas_poisoning
        I would have expected a lot of coughing from all those affected if Chlorine gas had been involved.
        
        (Ever had a long whiff of Janola?)
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:19pm
  - wiseowl
    
    There is a very good article at zerohedge and Fisk says the video is real but there was no gas.
    I suggest all downtickers read the article with an open mind and ponder .
    
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    April 18, 2018 10:30am
- burt
  
  Hagar confirms there was no gas attack.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:22am
  - KiWombat
    
    Well if Hager, the fountain of all truth, says so then it must be crap !
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:16am
- G152
  
  So, why wont the Russians permit the inspectors entry to the area ?
  And it cant be that dangerous with people living there and itinerant reporters reporting on site
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:31am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Well, we being told that they are being prevented. Do you trust that source ? Some independent investigators have been allowed in.
    
    Would this be similar to the UK not permitting the Russians to examine the scene at Salisbury ?
    
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    April 18, 2018 10:51am
slightlyrighty

It would appear more and more likely that our country is being run by ex student politicians with no real world experience and an overdeveloped sense of nostalgia.
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April 18, 2018 8:10am
- stephieboy
  
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  slightlyrighty. it must be really hard to make up stuff to post on KB.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:43am
  - KiWombat
    
    If I throw a stick – will you go away ?
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:17am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Stephieboy, at the risk of debating you and giving undeserved respect, when our government takes actions like appointing Nicky Hagar to an intelligence review committee, taxing road users to pay for public transport, killing an industry for the sake of political expediency, announces that there are no covert Russian spies in NZ, what other possible conclusion could you come up with?
    
    The public of New Zealand deserve to be treated better than some third year political science student thesis.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:18am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    It can’t be that hard SB, you manage to be able to do it several times a day!
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:54am
Humble Capitalist

A report has been released this week by LAWA stating that over the last 10 years the water quality in rivers has improved in more sites than it has deteriorated.
How can this be when back in August/September last year we heard from Cindy and the MSM that our waterways had got so much worse over an exact nine year block.
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April 18, 2018 8:10am
- cmm
  
  Fucking farmers, cleaning up the waterways and undermining good commie ideology.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:14am
- Gravelroad
  
  Well that was just dishonest electioneering, wasn’t it, HC.
  Worked for them too. Turned urban even more hostile to rural and gave the ignorant their chance to paint farmers (who are actually tax paying citizens, producers and exporters) as environmental wreckers.
  The majority of commentators who state their opinions, impressions, whims and fancies as fact, have never actually ventured out into the countryside to see for themselves the overall state of waterways.
  But, made the socialists and communists feel good though, aye. And National was not much better. Saw little to no evidence based support for primary producers during the election – nor since.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:20am
  - G152
    
    You want river pollution look no further than downstream of any village, town or city
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:33am
    - Piniwi
      
      Or G152 a certain major city where the harbour is safest viewed from a distance through a long lens.
      
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      April 18, 2018 10:19pm
Southern Raider

Is one solution to our looming energy crisis to leases a US battleship, tie it up at Devonport and connect its reactor to the local grid.
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April 18, 2018 8:11am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  One problem, there are no US Navy battleships that ever had a nuclear reactor. There were nuclear Submarines, Aircraft carriers, and a few cruisers, such as the USS TRUXTON, but all US Navy Battleships were conventionally powered. Now the only Nuclear powered surface ships are carriers, and tying one of those up in Devonport is impossible. They wouldn’t fit!
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:25am
  - Disillusioned_Voter
    
    Moor it sideways with a couple of approaches and BOOM!, you’ve got an instant second harbour crossing! 🙂
    
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    April 18, 2018 12:03pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Just like the UK needs 12 new nuclear power stations to power electric cars if the UK replaces all its 26million cars.
  
  How surprising not! While I do not doubt the need for the UK to build new nuclear power stations, I do doubt the number given the nature of how energy advice/policy is formulated in government.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:29am
cmm

How a Zulu (and his Granny) cured my White Guilt

Johannesburg, Apartheid era South Africa, 1980s

Sipho (not his real name), pronounced “see-paw”, Lefty-Chick and I (also a lefty at the time) were all young computer science grads working together as programmers in the same office. We were also all studying part-time towards post grad degrees and would sometimes get together for a lunch break etc to “study group”.

There was some incident in the news about the riot police shooting two rioters in Soweto (where Sipho lived). Lefty-Chick was still quite steamed up about it and said something like: “Sipho, you must hate white people”

Sipho said no, he didn’t hate white people and proceeded to tell us his story.

When he was about 14 he was heading down a path towards activism and violence motivated by blind anger towards whites. His granny decided to intervene.

She made him sit at their kitchen table in their small house in Soweto with a pencil and paper and told him to list all the nice things white people did for him. After 5 minutes the paper was still empty.

She then said: “See the pencil and paper. We did not have those before white people brought them. Write that down.” So Sipho dutifully wrote “pencil and paper”. He could not think of anything more.

“What is that?” she asked, pointing to his sandwich and a glass of water. “Bread and jam and water” he replied. “White people brought those to us. When I was a small girl we did not have bread and jam and clean water in a tap. We had to fetch dirty water from the river on hour heads. Write it down”.

And so it went: electricity, the chair, the table, hospital he was born in, the house he lived in, the bus, his school, his school books, a written language, his favourite subject – maths, football….”. A two page list of things white people had done for him.

He was mad at her but he knew she was right. He changed his path and focused on academic achievement, doing very well.

When his school, and later his university, were burned down by blacks, the whites rebuilt it and replaced the books. When he was beaten up and left in the road, black people ignored him (except to steal his shoes) and a white cop stopped and took care of him and got him to hospital. A white man at the hospital built by whites fixed him up. And so it has been his whole life.

Lefty-Chick was a bit annoyed and said: “But you must hate it when the police and soldiers are in Soweto”. “No”, says Sipho, “That is the only time I feel safe.”

Lefty-Chick was getting exasperated: “But you must hate apartheid.”.
“Yes”, says Sipho, “because it forces me to live with other blacks. I understand why whites don’t want to live with blacks – I don’t want to either.”

I felt a disturbance in my Lefty force and over the next few weeks the burden of 300 years of white guilt slowly left my shoulders.
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April 18, 2018 8:12am
- stephieboy
  
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  cmm, how nostalgic you must be for the good old days? ,
  
  http://stevemurrell.com/racism-segregation-and-bad-theology/
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:44am
  - cmm
    
    I just won a bet with myself that stephie will come up with some inane comment. I won a muffin!
    
    I was also expecting a LOL, so I am severely disappointed.
    
    No, I have never been a proponent of apartheid because it caused a barrier which prevented people like Sipho (ie. middle class blacks) from reaching their true potential in society.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:50am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Fuck Off Ignoramus. CMM is hardly a right wing Apartheid apologist. Fuck, you are a stupid, ignorant, mouthy, opinionated slur on humanity. Hard to believe that a good sperm could turn out so fucked up later on.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:51am
    - flipper
      
      But he is Corbynesque !!!!!!!!
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:16am
    - All_on_Red
      
      ‘good sperm could turn out’
      
      Heck, considering how dumb Stephie is, just imagine how bad the ‘losing’ sperm were!
      
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      April 18, 2018 1:33pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Out of 100,000 sperm stephie was the result of the fastest – oi vey !
        
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        April 18, 2018 4:26pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Hmm just replace Zulu with Maori to give this a local context..
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:46am
  - Komata
    
    RoL
    
    In that context, it is not unknown for Maori kids at high school to attack their peers when said peers show any signs of ‘Being white’; ie achieving good marks, becoming ‘booklish’ or attempting to ‘improve themselves’ and so escape the ‘ghetto’ mindset. Noticeably, excelling in sport is acceptable in such situations. This is nothing new (I first became aware of it in the ’70’s) and the beatings are invariably intiated by those of lesser abilities, and (most unusually), frequently by girls.
    
    The reasons are never defined or investigated, but at heart would seem tobe motivated to a large extent by jealousy, especially as the instigators of the attacks are invariably large and less than quick-witted (although when it comes to ‘acquiring’ things from others, the latter is not the case; they have remarkable abilities in such areas).
    
    As an adjunct to the above there was also a ‘It’s cool to be a fool’ attitude doing the rounds of NZ secondary schools during the late 1990’s, and once again, those who bought into that the most were Maori, especially young Maori males. No idea if such an attitude still exists, but it probably damaged many Gen Y young Maori guys.
    
    By such means are Maori held down and held back…
    
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    April 18, 2018 1:15pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Similar things happen to pakeha kids.
      
      Kids are called geeks if they excel in Maths or the Sciences (males & females).
      
      Kids are mocked/ostracised if they are useless at or not interested in sport.
      
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      April 18, 2018 2:13pm
tedbear

Twyford on tv one news last night crowing about how Rolleston prison inmates recondition old and damaged houses.

The useless media let Twyford make out it was a Labour idea.
When in fact it was started by the last govt in 2015. Just as useless was Bridges not bringing up this fact.
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April 18, 2018 8:13am
- Nookin
  
  I noticed it also. My recollection is that labour, driven by the unions, did not think it was a good idea.
  As far as Bridges is concerned, sadly, you are confusing what Bridges may have said with what TVNZ chooses to broadcast. They are not necessarily the same thing.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:27am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Last night TVNZ news listed NZ’s main exports: wine, meat and fish. There was no mention of dairy which is a huge export, if not the largest but out of favour with the left.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:54am
    - Komata
      
      waikatogirl
      
      And, of course, no mention of oil either, despite its significant contribution to our economy and balance of payments.
      
      As with dairy, oil would seem to have been ‘Disappeared’.
      
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      April 18, 2018 1:17pm
- G152
  
  So, it could be said that the people who broke the State Houses are repairing them
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:38am
  - waikatogirl
    
    It cost the taxpayer half a billion dollars to repair state housing in the last 12 months. The CoL are looking into ways of reducing this amount.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:57am
    - sooty
      
      Chuck the arseholes out!
      
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      April 18, 2018 12:43pm
- Paulus
  
  Do you think the media would report it if it came from Bridges ?
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:39am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Well Labour are off to a good start (according to them)….
  Claiming Nationals work as their own….TPP, Now this.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:49am
KiWombat

Are you out there Shane? – wakey wakey, hands off snakey – 50 million trees to go now Shane – that’s 50 followed by a bucketful of zero’s !

Summer’s over now, winter is just around the corner, so it’s the right time to start planting – better go wake up your cuzzies and give them a shovel some time soon !
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April 18, 2018 8:15am
- timmydevo
  
  I planted five shrubs yesterday. I am happy to include them in the 50 million tree quota. No wait, its now 51 million trees… hang on…
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:18am
  - holysheet
    
    That’s nothing. I planted 40 hedge plants last week. I am fucked if Jonesy is getting any of them as a credit.
    Let them go out and keep their own stupid promise.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:22am
    - timmydevo
      
      Sorry… if we’re playing that “mines bigger than yours” game, I didn’t include the other 350 I planted over the last month. But that’s ok, I don’t want to play…
      However, I wouldn’t be surprised if eventually there is a register for home planting – subsiding plants from the local nursery – simply to drive the number down.
      
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      April 18, 2018 8:35am
  - cmm
    
    I’ve got some moss growing in the driveway. Moss are really lots of teenie-tiny trees. Must be a few thousand of the buggers.
    
    Sorry Shane, I’m going to spray them on the week end.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:23am
    - holysheet
      
      I hope you are not using toxic chemicals. Iron sulphate does the trick.
      
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      April 18, 2018 8:35am
      - Tarquin North
        
        Diesel works well, but I think the government is going to ban that and petrol soon.
        
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        April 18, 2018 8:44am
      - sooty
        
        What and were do you get iron sulphate?
        
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        April 18, 2018 12:45pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Sooty
        
        at Bunnings, or any Garden-supply shop
        Tui Moss Control,
        Yates Surrender Moss killer….
        
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        April 18, 2018 1:57pm
    - timmydevo
      
      Roundup the shit out of it!
      
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      April 18, 2018 8:38am
    - Pharmachick
      
      Err Roundup (glyphosate) isn’t the best choice – it works at the growing points of the weeds by inhibiting amino acid synthesis (particularly tyrosine, tryptophan and phenylalanine) … since mosses are usually only a single stem and leaves 1 cell thick, roundup is of limited use. Ferrous sulfate is best in lawns, bleach (ammonium doing the job there) or lime or >> sunlight are better bets on hard surfaces.
      
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      April 18, 2018 10:53am
      - Pharmachick
        
        PS: I teach Toxicology/Poisoning by pesticides to our Pharmacy and Medical Students – for the record: I *HATE* gardening.
        
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        April 18, 2018 11:13am
Right of way is Way of Right

For 6 years, Jordan Worth’s partners life was a living hell.

From taking over Facebook pages, withholding physical affection, threatening with weapons and physical violence, leaving black eyes, broken bones, scarring from scalds and burns, even down to what clothes to wear, Jordan’s partner lost every vestige of control to Jordan. Often seen limping, showing the clear signs of abuse, neighbours often heard shouting, with Jordan’s partner shouting “Get off me, Your hurting me!” Jordan was sometimes seen through the window brandishing a weapon!

After neighbours called police to the couples house in June last year, Jordans’s partner was placed in the care of paramedics, who catalogued an extensive list of injuries, including scalds to the legs and hands which will leave permanent scarring, a hand wound, a number of stab wounds about the limbs and body, bruising… the level of abuse was sickening.

Jordan’s partner had been isolated from friends and family. Jordan’s approval, rarely given, was required before adequate food and even bedding would be allowed. Jordan even denied the use of their shared bed for months at a time.

Jordan was arrested, charged, and convicted. Jordan was sentenced in the Luton Crown Court to seven and a half years jail.

Jordan Worth is a real person, and so is Jordan’s partner. Jordan’s partner’s name is suppressed. Jordan, on release, will be subject to restraining orders which will forbid contact for an indefinite period.

Yet another case of domestic abuse, sadistic, controlled, over a period of years.

With one key difference.

Jordan Worth is a 22 year old with an honours degree in fine arts. A trained gymnast, a volunteer for an animal charity, a fundraiser for children in Africa, and female.

Her ex partner is male.

Jordan Worth has been convicted of the offence of controlling or coercive behaviour in an intimate relationship, introduced in 2015, as well as wounding with intent and causing grievous bodily harm with intent.

Intimate Partner violence comes in all forms. Please stop categorising intimate partner violence as nearly always male on female. It’s a lie!
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April 18, 2018 8:17am
- waikatogirl
  
  How about this one:
  
  One of New Zealand’s most sickening criminal cases, just the third conviction for slave trading in the country’s legal history, can now be revealed.
  
  A mother of a teenage daughter has been jailed for six years and 11 months after keeping her daughter as a sex slave and selling her body to men some 1000 times over a two-year period.
  
  She was sold as many as five times a day.
  
  The teen, who has permanent name suppression, escaped her horror in November 2016 and fled to police.
  
  Kasmeer Lata, the teen’s mother, was sentenced today in the High Court at Auckland by Justice Matthew Muir for dealing in slaves and receiving earnings from commercial sexual services from an underage person.
  
  “Ms Lata has come to the realisation that she may well be the most despised woman in New Zealand, that will be her burden,” defence counsel Karl Trotter said.
  
  During the 18 months the teen was sold as a sex slave it is estimated her 36-year-old mother collected about $100,000, keeping half, court documents obtained by the Herald show.
  
  It is the first case of its kind in New Zealand under a specific subsection of the Crimes Act, Crown prosecutor Natalie Walker told the court. She said the offending was without precedent and should be denounced in the most explicit terms.
  
  The slave dealing conviction is also one of just three in New Zealand’s legal history since the crime was written into the Crimes Act in 1961.
  
  The teen, in her victim impact statement read to the court, said she now suffers from regular pain as a result of her trauma and has mental health issues.
  
  “I have to make up lies about four years of my life and why I live on my own without my parents’ support.
  
  “I see men differently now, I think they always want something from me and that is why they are talking to me,” she said.
  
  “I always wanted my mum to be a normal person … I wonder what I did to deserve my mum. All I wanted was your love as a child, teenager, and your girl.”
  
  Justice Muir said Lata’s offending has caused “long-lasting if not irreparable damage to her daughter” as she “effectively pimped her out”.
  
  He imposed a minimum period of imprisonment of three years and five months.
  Lata told her daughter to begin work as a prostitute to help feed her family when just 14 years old, court documents read.
  
  Despite refusing, the teen was sold for the first time on her 15th birthday.
  
  Over the next year and a half, the teen was kept as a prisoner inside a Papatoetoe home and sold as a sex slave to men an estimated 1000 times.
  
  A second person allegedly involved, charged with dealing in underage people for sex, will go on trial next week.
  
  The teen had moved to New Zealand from Fiji with her mother and brothers just a year before her horror began.
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:09am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Indeed. I note the maximum penalty for offences under Section 98AA of the Crimes Act is 14 years imprisonment, yet Justice Muir handed down a sentence of less than half of the available maximum.
    
    It is hard to imagine a more serious case than this, and yet the mother may be released from prison after she has served just three years and five months. That is simply appalling.
    
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    April 18, 2018 11:20am
  - GoVege
    
    A shocking case, waikato girl.
    But pimping of young girls has been going on for years in Auckland (and no doubt elsewhere.)
    Some years ago I was told about a 15 year old whose mother was dropping her at night to a place where a well-known gang ran underage prostitutes.
    I rang the social services and was told “So mum’s a pimp? We have hundreds in Auckland!”
    I know the woman in this case was in receipt of a generous benefit, supplemented by the income from burglaries, unlike the woman just sentenced who had no other source of income.
    So why aren’t all these other pimp mums being had up and jailed?
    
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    April 18, 2018 12:25pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The article also said that the mother had been a prostitute in Fiji and that was the only life she knew.
    
    I wonder how she qualified for entry into NZ.
    Do we have a dearth of prostitutes?
    Is prostitution on our skill-shortage list?
    Did she get entry under the “Start up a business” category?
    
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    April 18, 2018 2:31pm
    - JibberJabber
      
      All part of the Immigration Diversity dividend, are you not ENRICHED?
      
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      April 18, 2018 4:08pm
    - GoVege
      
      That’s the trouble with piously religious nations like Fiji, Maggie.
      The only secure jobs for women are battered wife or prostitute.
      At least beatings are optional and come with monetary benefits for the latter.
      
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      April 18, 2018 6:49pm
- GoVege
  
  One swallow doesn’t a summer make.
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:41am
  - Inandout
    
    So said Monica Lewinsky.
    
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    April 18, 2018 12:10pm
- Komata
  
  RoW
  
  Ever had contact with Pacific Island society? Let’s just say that there are some very violent ‘Ladies’ out there….
  
  (Others here will know).
  
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  April 18, 2018 1:22pm
  - GoVege
    
    That’s true Komata, but the dudes are even more scary and as with all races and cultures, kill far more often than women do.
    
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    April 18, 2018 3:00pm
- GoVege
  
  Violence of any kind is abhorrent, ROW.
  But males are far more likely to seriously injure or kill their victims.
  I’m pretty sure too that if this victim had done a runner, the abusive female would probably not have tracked him down and killed him.
  Stalking is virtually solely a male behaviour.
  
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  April 18, 2018 2:58pm
Justitia

The Socialist Action League was founded at Victoria University in 1969. It is a Marxist-Leninist party of the Trotskyist denomination. Our inspector-general of the intelligence services was a member. Quis custodiet custodes ipsos?
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April 18, 2018 8:18am
- Gravelroad
  
  Was she also a member of the PYM in Wellington around that time (1970)?
  The Progressive Youth Movement took themselves very, very seriously – being anti the Vietnam war and all – but they were good at the street marching and yelling like Sargeant Majors!!
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:50am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  It is inconceivable that someone of that background could be in that role; perhaps her comment on the 100million dead at the hands of that failed ideology should be sought?
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:28am
  - Kimbo
    
    Don’t be so sure. Ask David Garrett about his youthful political beliefs and affiliations. ?
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:31am
    - rangitoto
      
      Don’t need to ask him. He has posted about it on this blog. Looks like it was just to annoy his father.
      
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      April 18, 2018 11:05am
holysheet

A tramp walks into a jewellers, puts his hands down his trousers and starts fingering his arse hole.
The sales assistant shouts at him “Stop what you”re doing and get out!”
The tramp says “You want to make your fucking minds up, you’ve got a sign on the window says come inside and pick your ring in comfort.”
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April 18, 2018 8:19am
MCos

“I did not have attorney-client relations with that man.” —Sean Hannity
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April 18, 2018 8:19am
- Andrei
  
  I’m puzzled why is it wrong for Sean Hannity to have associations with an attorney?
  
  The USA has the highest percentage of lawyers per head of population in the world and their client base is supposed to be confidential as are communications between them and their clients
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:03am
  - fernglas
    
    It doesn’t sound like there was any lawyer/client relationship. Hannity said that he was just running some points of law by him for use on his programme, which isn’t enough to establish the privilege. If that’s so, then there should be nothing in the content to cause him concern. If it’s not, then Hannity has been a fool for not saying so loud and clear. It’s like Trump saying he knew nothing of Cohen’s attempts to silence the porn star. If that’s right, then no privilege would attach to documents setting out what Cohen did.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:45am
    - virtualmark
      
      Umm no,
      
      Ryan (Cohen’s attorney) was clear that Hannity was a client. The court hearing was clear that Cohen had 3 *clients* not “3 people I talk with on the phone”.
      
      Hannity then claimed that he wasn’t a client. Then that he’d paid Cohen some de minimis amount ($10 was mentioned). Then that he did indeed claim attorney-client privilege.
      
      Like Trump before him Hannity is now stuck between two difficult choices:
      Option 1 = claim attorney-client privilege to conceal your communications, but face very awkward questions about your ethics because you didn’t tell your audience about your conflicts, or
      Option 2 = claim you weren’t a client, but then your communications aren’t privileged.
      
      That he hasn’t chosen Option 2 suggests his communications with Cohen might make for interesting reading.
      
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      April 18, 2018 12:37pm
Southern Raider

Angela Merkel has said NZ should be very proud of Cindy

Should we be listening to someone who swamped her country with other 1 million refugees?
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April 18, 2018 8:23am
- KKKKatee
  
  A resounding NO!
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:34am
- mandk
  
  Merkel saying that sounds like someone at a grown ups’ meeting praising the school girl who sharpened all the pencils and laid out the notepads beforehand.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:40am
  - RalphT
    
    Sorry, mandk, but sharpened pencils and Cindy don’t really go together.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:45am
  - oldpark
    
    Not forgetting the pet name by some “Vacuum”.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:55am
    - Southern Raider
      
      Dyson
      
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      April 18, 2018 8:58am
    - KiWombat
      
      I remember a “Vacuum” from uni days !
      
      The name didn’t refer to the lack of what was inside her skull, but rather her ability to suck an egg through a straw !
      
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      April 18, 2018 4:34pm
- Harkman
  
  Our knucklehead media claimed her meeting with Macron “was a success.” It was an early morning, less than one hour meeting and she was rush out the door. She wasn’t important, it was a token meeting. I would hate see was an unsuccessful meeting looks like.
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:19am
- Poppa
  
  Yes Merkel is right, we should be proud of our PM but ………
  
  She is nothing more than a total embarrassment. Look at that piece of shit Kiwi she gave away, probably bought from the $2 shop.
  
  I cringe at the thought of her meeting May & the Queen. God help us all
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:29am
starboard

Megan Woods on the EQC fiasco in chc.
” the previous govt did nothing blah.. They knew about it blah.. I am just tidying up the previous governments mess blah”
That seems to be liarbors default line for now.
Inept fools and liars they are. NZ liarbor.
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April 18, 2018 8:23am
- hullkiwi
  
  It is part of a broader spin narrative to paint National as liars & hiding the “true extent of problems” so they could give tax cuts to the rich. Then we get next month’s budget & poor Robbo will have to raise more tax, borrow more, & will have to pay off debt slower.
  
  Liars and spin artists, they are not a government.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:38am
  - Piniwi
    
    @hullkiwi there was mention by DPF regarding the Lab/Green (Mud Mob) fiscal responsibility pledge to keep borrowing below 30% of GDP. Not sure that is right as sweet cheeks favourite response is “paying down debt” to 20% of GDP by 2021. Whichever they have already started to make that so much more of a challenge with recent policy moves dragging down productivity. Even worse the Business community are anticipating per capita (sweet cheeks favourite term) growth to be sliding into negative figures.
    The result is a squeeze on sweet cheeks since as productivity and GDP decline then so do the % target drop in value regardless of which % the sweetie chooses.
    They might be falsely misled by the belated IMF report that predicted 3% growth when more valid current reliable evaluation is indicating it dropping below the 2% level. If so we can be sure the talk of per capita GDP will be avoided like it is a non PC term only for realists.
    
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    April 18, 2018 11:12pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  It appears, that the starvation poster boy for this:
  1. Has not agreed an access time for the insurers to inspect his claim.
  2. The insurer is ON TIME, with reference to the court ruling.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:54am
  - Poppa
    
    Yes there is quite a lot of lawyer involvement in these claims which is of course slowing down the process.
    
    I am no lover of insurance companies but I don’t think it is all their fault to be honest. Nor is it the fault of National
    
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    April 18, 2018 10:32am
- Rich Prick
  
  If it’s all National’s fault, Labour must have been a fucking hopeless Opposition.
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:00am
- Piniwi
  
  But starboard it might be like the Middlemore problem they tried to ignore even when given details of the extent of building problems. It was too much information for Clark.
  The Chch building issue could get very expensive for the COL especially since the EQC have already apologised and we await the result of the test case. It is a can of worms since the original owners (claimants) signed off on the original repairs and took advantage of a sellers market to flick the house off. Some have even been on sold several times so the whole thing becomes very messy. Perhaps the only way that the new owners can hope for is another earthquake so they can make a claim on EQC and start the whole process. Shades of a certain MP wanting all his dings being included in one job under a single insurance claim.
  We are also rightly sceptical about the whole situation when considering that the COL have not one but two heavy weights on the case. Their combined weight does not match their ability so there might be another wait for many. Then the “conversations” with sweet cheeks might bring a quieting of the rash underfunding calls.
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:51pm
lifesgood

All this faux outrage over Folau’s comments. I heard Alan Jones on the radio last night. He hit the hammer on the head and since when did all these outraged start believing in heaven or hell anyway? Bloody makes my blood boil….precious little snow flakes.
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April 18, 2018 8:26am
- KKKKatee
  
  Well at least Folau’s not advocating chucking homos off very tall buildings to their deaths, unlike our Islam brothers – you know, that religion of “Peace”.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:36am
- mandk
  
  That is my thought entirely.
  
  If you don’t believe in heaven and hell, Folau’s comments are meaningless words.
  
  And if you do believe, then you’d probably better try to understand what made Folau say what he did.
  
  The whole thing smacks of faux outrage.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:38am
  - Kimbo
    
    If it’s on Twitter you can be sure any outrage is faux!
    
    Hey, I like that. In fact, as Kimbo’s law* is already taken, why don’t we call that mandk’s law? ?
    
    *”in blogworld the validity of an argument in in inverse proportion to the use of emphatic adverbs”.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:00am
  - itstricky
    
    If you don’t believe in heaven and hell, Folau’s comments are meaningless words.
    
    You don’t have believe in hell to realise someone has made a rubbish slur against an entire sub group of people.
    
    The whole thing smacks of faux outrage.
    
    As does taking the time to categorise everyone who has responded in kind to Folau as a “non-Christian snowflake”. I mean what did ‘lifesgood’ do – a poll of every person that responded and then formally identified them all to be non-practising Christians, of a young liberal persuasion?
    
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    April 18, 2018 11:48am
- Kimbo
  
  Story took an interesting turn yesterday in that Folau via Jones managed to put the story back onto free speech, and lay the groundwork for him appearing to be persecuted for his beliefs, and a potential martyr if Aussie Rugby rinse him. Also aided by the likes of Louisa Wall on this side of the Tasman mischaracterising what he said as “hate speech”, and trotting out the blather that Folau’s Tweets could drive some to suicide.
  
  But it will still come down to how much leverage the Wallabies sponsors like Qantas choose to exercise. I suspect that consumers don’t really give a shit either way…but I’m not sure the CEO of Aussie rugby, Raelene Castle, is in a position to call Qantas’ bluff.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:42am
  - Fletch
    
    Yah. Also, those who defend homosexuality don’t really have anything to back up their argument. Faith, science and reason are against it. This is not even a faith vs science argument. Homosexual conduct goes against scientific biology – the very laws of Nature itself. The only thing proponents base their arguments on is ‘feels’ – and feels is not enough. The mere presence of a desire is not enough of a reason why the desire should be validated and encouraged.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:54am
    - SGA
      
      This is not even a faith vs science argument. Homosexual conduct goes against scientific biology.
      
      The cornerstone of science is observation and data; theory comes later. If homosexuality exists, it exists (and it is hardly a new phenomenon). Theories must accommodate data, not the other way round.
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:02am
      - Fletch
        
        Yes, but it exists is such a small amount (less than 2%) as to be considered an abnormality, surely? Or as a vice such as smoking that people indulge in.
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:14am
      - SGA
        
        A vice like smoking? No. Some people seem to be wired with a sexual preference (sometime exclusively so) for their own gender. How that arises exactly is unclear – doesn’t have to be genetic necessarily, it might have to do with the environment in the womb (hormone levels, stress, whatever) during the early development of certain brain structures (say), or perhaps a combination of such effects. But it does seem to be a genuine phenomenon, and doesn’t go against “scientific biology”.
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:23am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ SGA
        
        Yep. And throwing a statistically-driven phrase like “abnormality”, with the slippery equivocation that it also immediately entails moral failing (I’m speaking from the supposedly “objectivist” position Fletch is trying to claim a mortgage on! ?)
        
        …doesn’t make same-gender sexual attraction any less of an impirical fact.
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:28am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        Around 2% of the population have red hair. Are they an abnormality?
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:36am
      - MrTips
        
        SGA
        The cornerstone of science is observation and data; theory comes later.
        Sometimes. But you can have a theory without data; data is then generated to refute or confirm your theory. And data is not just the cornerstone of science. It is arrogant for science to claim exclusivity on that process. History does the same thing.
        
        And something existing says nothing about its validity, normality or not. The existence of the fact that homosexual sex is non-reproductive, renders it abnormal for the point of view of the “Selfish Gene”.
        
        Nigel Kearney: sigh. No. They have hair which is performing its function. Sticking your willy in someone’s bumhole for the purposes of ejaculation is not what either is functionally designed for. These kinds of pre-school logic arguments don;t help.
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:51am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Nigel Kearney
        
        My guess is that if Fletch comes back with an answer, it will be one that ignores the supposedly scientific/statistical on which his original suspect premise rests
        
        …and he will jump to a metaphysical authority, be it “Faith”, and/or reason. Also known as “moving goal posts”.
        
        And that folks is why Thomas Aquinas’ supposedly seamless transition between Natural Theology and Special Revelation is so suspect, and is a false unity of truth that results in bad impiricism, poor philosophy and compromised theology.
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:57am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Mr Tips
        
        Sticking your willy in someone’s bumhole for the purposes of ejeculation is not what either is functionally designed for
        
        You are right that science is not data alone, and that theory can, indeed, does preceed it inductively. Nonetheless, when done properly, the data is always preeminent. Hence, as I anticipated above re Fletch’s potential response, your argument is primarily metaphysical, based on Aristotle, not impirical despite your appeal to the contrary.
        
        Better to ditch Aquinas, and go to the root of any ethical disagreement as per Reformers – does the other party accept the authority of Scripture, and has its meaning and application in the matter been accurately discerned? Anything else is a side show.
        
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        April 18, 2018 10:09am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Science is not the right tool to use on matters of faith and morality.
        
        That said, homosexuality has (as far as we know) existed for all of human history. It is “abnormal” with regard to genetic survival and presumably there is a scientific explanation of some sort as to why such behaviour exists and indeed persists.
        
        It may be ultimately akin to the generally accepted explanation of why potentially lethal genetic mutations like those that underlie sickle-cell anaemia persist – that is that a certain expression of the same traits is beneficial (in the sickle cell case it offers significant protection against malarial infection) enough that the downside of excessive expression is in genetic terms worth it.
        
        But as to whether it is “bad” or “wrong” in a moral sense is a purely philosophical matter, not a scientific one.
        
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        April 18, 2018 11:09am
      - Pharmachick
        
        @Mr Tips,
        
        actually sex has evolved to not just be about procreation, but also pleasure. That’s why orgasm causes a rush of neurotransmitters providing pleasure. I don’t know the evolutionary advantage of “pleasure” but it will be there, in part because people that don’t experience it tend to top themselves. Hence any type of LGBTQ sex providing “pleasure” has an evolutionary advantage…
        
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        April 18, 2018 11:09am
      - SGA
        
        @Mr Tips
        
        Sometimes. But you can have a theory without data; data is then generated to refute or confirm your theory.
        
        Never said theory wasn’t a important part of science. Heavens, sometimes there might be several theories competing (e.g., Big Bang versus Hoyle’s idea). At the end of the day, however, what decides which theories survive?
        
        And data is not just the cornerstone of science. It is arrogant for science to claim exclusivity on that process. History does the same thing.
        
        You seem to be making some sort of “if A then B, then if B then A” error. Just because I think that data and observation are the cornerstone of science doesn’t mean they aren’t important elsewhere.
        
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        April 18, 2018 11:10am
    - Kimbo
      
      And that contribution to an already over-outraged debate comes to you from Radio Vatican City’s New Zealand correspondent, and part-time Aristotelian philosopher, Fletch. ?
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:08am
      - Fletch
        
        *takes a bow*
        
        As I have said in the past though, this does not mean I believe that gays should be discriminated against. But I do not think it is discrimination to steer people away from a harmful lifestyle and to be against that lifestyle being promoted to children as valid.
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:10am
      - Kimbo
        
        Not according to the likes of Louisa Wall, as it is still harmful. So good on Folau for at least sticking to his guns, irrespective of his beliefs, and not doing the usual insincere sickly corporate whitewash mea culpa we’ve seen every since John Hart wheeled out Norm Hewitt when he fell through that window in Queenstown in a drunken stupor nearly 20 years ago.
        
        So again, there is a fault line and it is becoming clearer every day in this seemingly silly exchange. Someone is going to have to blink.
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:21am
      - JibberJabber
        
        He`s not from the University of Wooloomooloo and his first name is Bruce by any chance?
        
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        April 18, 2018 4:20pm
    - GoVege
      
      You are DEAD wrong on all counts, Fletch.
      Homosexuality is nature’s way of saving us all from stoopid sexist religions that have overpopulated the Earth to the point we are facing our own extinction.
      
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      April 18, 2018 5:26pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Matty on TV 1 and the gang, claim it is “Hate speech”
    I am an atheist.
    1. Quoting the bible is not hate speech
    2. There is no such thing as hate speech, just speech YOU hate.
    3. Offense can only be taken, NEVER given.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:57am
  - Paulus
    
    Qantas is against what he said because the CEO of Qantas is a homosexual, as are a number of staff – particularly male cabin staff on Internationals, albeit they are good at their jobs.
    
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    April 18, 2018 1:47pm
- Kimbo
  
  Meanwhile, an idiot who has never played rugby asks how people with different morals can share the same changing room:
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/sport/355306/folau-fallout-rugby-australia-can-t-hide-from-hypocrisy
  
  Probably a good indication that the people who support rugby are not the same as those who would boycott the Wallabies sponsors. I mean, FFS, does your morality accord with all you co-workers in every respect?! And rugby has long been the sport where people of different classes bash the shit out of each other…and enjoy a beer afterwards. ?
  
  Good work by talkback radio host and former Wallaby coach Alan Jones who proves yet again the old rugby maxim that attack is the best form of defence. And also Israel Folau, who in saying he is prepared to walk away from his contract, risked it all with bold counter attack. The question now is will Castle and/or Qantas call his bluff?
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12034447
  
  But less tacky religion in sport would still be appreciated! ?
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:53am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    BNZ probably share the sentiment on your last point.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:06am
- MCos
  
  I heard Mr Jones on the radio. Chap sounds like he’s in a state of permanent outrage.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:57am
  - Kimbo
    
    What part of the right (or left) wing talk back radio host’s persona don’t you understand? ?
    
    Also, as per mandk’s law: if the outrage is on Twitter, you can be sure it’s faux. ?
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:14am
- Harkman
  
  Tough position for Raelene Castle, sponsors or their best player and he can walk and get double in France or Japan and everyone knows it.
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:25am
  - Harkman
    
    But if Falou was white he would have been sacked already.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:27am
    - Piniwi
      
      Regardless of the race card which he did not bother to play incidentally most respect the guy for his honesty. The fact his faith dictates his outlook on such things is simply a matter for him. For so many people their faith is a source of strength and guidance for life they might share if encouraged or just follow without attempting to force it on others.
      
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      April 18, 2018 11:34pm
Humble Capitalist

The MSM has claimed victory for NZ with a triumphant story that the French support a NZ FTA agreement with the EU.
TVNZ going on about how its worth $15 billion in trade as if its a done deal.
Personally I only have a couple of issues with it
1) The fossil fuels used to supply these markets on the other side of the world
2) That this smacks of capitalism which has so often been a blatant failure
That Cindy is doing a great job though because I saw it on the TVNZ news
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April 18, 2018 8:26am
- KKKKatee
  
  She’s only making mild noises. No deal has been done. She’s only had a very minor discussion with Macron about what she’d like to see. Total bullshit from useless reporters. They haven’t done their homework. They need to go back and check facts. In this case it’s fake news. TVNZ should be ashamed of themselves.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:52am
  - Piniwi
    
    @KKKKatee the Media party are desperate to try for some “good” sound bites after so many disasters piled up before the Commie Chick left on this trip. The reality is so much different than what they are presenting since we know there will be no trade deals before Brexit is concluded. The finalisation of that might also impact on real negotiations when the time comes.
    The shoe is on the other foot now also especially after the Commonwealth countries were the ones slighted by old Mother England as they rushed to join the EU. There are a lot of hard yards to be covered to the extent it might turn out like the TPP. While a Labour led COL might start the task it will require some serious negotiation by a much more competent team than Parker might find.
    Expect OQT to see the Commie Chick asked again “does she stand by all her statements?” The devil is in the detail which the COL have such a devil of time to find.
    
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    April 18, 2018 11:52pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  1. The French are only allowed to discuss trade deals in detail after BREXIT is complete, same goes for the Brits.
  2. This appears to be the same language/statement that the French made when National spoke to them last year.
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:00am
- Harkman
  
  They’re just trying to pump up her poll numbers, if a weak National still polls higher. She is illegitimate.
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:22am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    No matter what we do or say National still come back as the strongest supported political party in the polls
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:34am
    - tf78
      
      It’s a shame Ms Merkel didn’t tell Cindy how an MMP parliament should be formed.
      
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      April 18, 2018 11:20am
Paulus

With regard to the outstanding EQC claims under dispute in Christchurch may I raise a couple of questions. How many are ex AMI policy holder and therefore Taxpayer owned Southern Response customers now ?
These hundreds of outstanding claims appear to be claims whereby a new property owner has bought a house which has been subject to an EQC and Insurance company settlement.
This of course was revealed by the Estate Agents. They are invariably older houses I understand.
Question ?
When these people purchase these houses did they have a survey done ?
If not, knowing that damage had occurred and had been repaired.
Question ?
As there appear to many probably heavily mortgaged, as are told, did the Mortgage lender, say a Bank, not insist on having a survey done ?
This is normal commercial practice for a lender to satisfy their rules. Also that a valid insurance policy be retained covering at least the lenders interest.
Now a final comment – EQC have under their legislation paid their share of damage up to $100,000 plus gst so under what legal grounds are they liable to pay any more.
Presumably these are now a political claim not an EQC or insurers claim.
These houses current insurers are saying the claim for damages made are before we became the property’s insurers – we are not their clients.
Those involved earlier are saying – we paid and have a legal sign off.
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April 18, 2018 8:27am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Shut your mouth (labour’s response)
  You can’t say that it actually might be a combination of:
  1. The claimants own fault
  2. Unscrupulous builders
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:03am
- tf78
  
  Is this what Annette King was sent to miraculously uncover.
  
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  April 18, 2018 11:21am
- KevOB
  
  This is a can full of legal worms. Were Fletchers or others under contract to EQC to scope, arrange and effect repairs? That would make EQC liable for the quality of the work done which must be independent of any cap. The making good of a failure of a servant is a separate issue from a statutory cap on liability.
  We have unknowingly fallen into this trap and are treating the windfall payout as liquidated damages. The major item of concern and expense appears to be irrelevant, not noticed and some packing out the details such as taking the heat pump off the wall and putting it back again is evident.
  
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  April 18, 2018 12:21pm
- Piniwi
  
  Right Paulus it is a veritable can of worms but who can blame the original claimant wanting to get out of the house in a sellers market? They got their settlement for the original damage and who can confirm or deny more damage might have occurred with so many aftershocks? This in addition to the buyer surety required for financing subsequent purchases.
  Unfortunately the apology already offered up from EQC might make it very hard for the Government to distance itself from this mess. This one has a lot more to come yet as we watch and enjoy our popcorn as Woods and King “sort it out”.
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:07am
holysheet

Which coat would look better on the soon to be mother of the nations baby.

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/attachments/ss-uniforms-insignia/420746d1352334918-ss-overcoat-rd072611-81.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0e/a8/d6/0ea8d67166806f60422a5a2ed799370a.jpg
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April 18, 2018 8:28am
- Monique Watson
  
  The high heels in the second kill me! What she doesn’t realise is the brat is going to be grown and wearing high heels before she knows it and only has a lifetime of suck music to listen to given the likes of that apostrophe mangler, Ed Sheeran
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:45am
Kimbo

So Whale Oil considers Redbaiter a good source for Tweet of the Day ?:

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/04/tweet-of-the-day-108/
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April 18, 2018 8:29am
- Ross12
  
  The tweet is right, so what does it matter who sent it?
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:44am
  - Kimbo
    
    Off the top of my head, it highlights that you too can’t distinguish fact from opinion,
    
    …and that a supposed “fact” from someone with such…interesting opinions as Redbaiter should at least alert you to the difference as a form of intellectual hygiene/mental quality control? ?
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:35am
    - Ross12
      
      Well if you want to be pedantic and play with words Kimbo I’ll rephrase my point —
      
      “The opinion expressed in the tweet is one that I fully agree with and I do not care who made it and which blog reposted it.”
      
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      April 18, 2018 11:40am
      - Kimbo
        
        Yeah, but doesn’t the fact it was said by Redbaiter doesn’t make you think twice? ?
        
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        April 18, 2018 12:05pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  What kind of mental aberration would make someone down tick that comment?
  
  Just the mention of:
  – WOBH?
  – redbaiter?
  – the smiley face?
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:08am
  - Kimbo
    
    Tough caudience! ?
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:36am
starboard

Who was the sexual predator at Liarbors underage drinking session that resulted in sexual assault on children there.?
What’s his name? Who is he related to in Liarbor? Why has it been hushed up?
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April 18, 2018 8:29am
- G152
  
  Find and publish ALL the male names who attended.
  The innocent will dob in the guilty
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:44am
- stephieboy
  
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  starboard, “children”? Who at age sixteen can legally marry and without parental consent!
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:54am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    The same “children” who can get away with murder and be dealt with under the soft-cock Youth justice system?
    
    They’re the same “children” who when they steal a car and kill themselves racing away from the police are mourned as “innocents”.
    
    Oh wait, I forget ‘Hypocrisy! It’s Ok when the left do it”.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:11am
  - Swifty
    
    Some were fifteen, I understand.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:16am
  - KiWombat
    
    I believe one in the crosshairs is the son of a West Auckland MP !
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:27am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Yes, I’ve reached the same conclusion from the photos doing the rounds.
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:52am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Is he the Labour Candidate for Northcote? Is he related to the Labour Candidate for Northcote?
  
  I’m not saying he is, but how do we know he isn’t!
  
  That secrecy thing works both ways!
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:00am
lifesgood

Great programme on Nat Radio last night…couldn’t sleep, a police helicopter spent ages circling above! Anyway a professor from Auck Uni has researched the case of the effect of climate change on pacific atolls and, surprise, surprise, confirmed scientific data shows that 40% have increased in size, 40% have not changed and only 20% have had slight diminishing of size. He basically said that the Tuvalu govt is telling porkies about threats to their islands in order to receive international funding and probably a lot of other islands are to. He even said that the fact that islands are increasing…in height (and he explained how that happens) and circumference means their water tables are not affected. It was worth listening to.
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April 18, 2018 8:32am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Here’s the Research paper
  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-02954-1
  
  Here’s some summary articles:
  https://www.sciencealert.com/pacific-island-nation-expected-to-sink-is-getting-bigger
  
  https://phys.org/news/2018-02-pacific-nation-bigger.html
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:55am
  - stephieboy
    
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    MW, so the Tuvaluans need not be concerned about sea water encroachment and resell purchased land in Fiji for resettlement,
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/01/kiribati-climate-change-fiji-vanua-levu
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:10am
    - Harkman
      
      They are sinking, it is not the sea level rising.
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:29am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Did you even read the research paper, stephieboy?
      
      Did you read the authors’ comment about the cultural and economic disconnections populations suffer when they are relocated from their homelands?
      Did you comprehend the solutions the authors are positing for Tuvalu?
      
      And if I recall correctly, wasn’t their some scam deal about the Anglican Church selling crap land on Fiji to the Tuvaluans?
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:44am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Ah… looks like the dirty deal was with Kiribati.. and the Anglican Church – selling off a Fijian village.
        
        http://www.devpolicy.org/kitibatis-land-purchase-in-fiji-does-it-make-sense-20160111/
        
        Exploitation much, eh?
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:51am
      - rangitoto
        
        “Did you even read the research paper, stephieboy?”
        
        I doubt he actually reads anything. I have concluded that he detects few trigger words from a list and responds blindly without any comprehension of what was actually written. A bit like a high school attempt at an AI bot.
        
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        April 18, 2018 11:11am
    - KevOB
      
      Tarawa the main island of Kiribati is not fit to live in and it has nothing to do with climate change. 50K people now live there when once there was $10k. The island surrounds a long narrow lagoon and is only 2-3 above sea level. Tides was over and physical people pressure has squashed the coral so the fresh water floating below is problematical. Food is hard to grown in a salty environment and droughts occur too.
      
      I once turned down the offer of an Govt position there.
      
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      April 18, 2018 12:34pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Here’s the link to the Radio broadcast
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/audio/2018640643/climate-change-in-the-pacific-what-s-really-going-on
  
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  April 18, 2018 2:45pm
Ross12

Maybe all those tweets and pressure from President Trump are bearing fruit

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/17/north-and-south-korea-reportedly-set-to-announce-official-end-to-war.html

Of course it is more than one person achieving this but no other President got anywhere this close to resolution and yes is is just the first step but a major one.
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April 18, 2018 8:42am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  USA and North Korea are talking directly.
  Might be a meeting of the 2 Heads of State
  https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics/trump-abe-meeting-north-korea-trade/index.html
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:57am
  - stephieboy
    
    And a lot also to do with previous sanctions and pressures brought to bear by ally China and Trump’s predecessors?
    
    Conservatives hated it when Obama said he’d meet with North Korea. Guess what they say now.
    
    And some conservative writers are confused by their peers’ shift.
    
    https://www.vox.com/2018/3/9/17100880/north-korea-republicans-right-conservatives-obama
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:11am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      There in lies the difference
      Obama’s offer was declined
      Trumps accepted
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:32am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I think you know very little about Korean politics, stephieboy.
      In 2008-09 Lee Myung Bak ran a hardline against N. Korea. (especially after sinking of the Cheonan and the bombing of Yeonpyeong Island). The now imprisoned Park Geun-hye was ham-strung throughout her reign by N.Korea’s continued nuclear belligerence.
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:32am
    - All_on_Red
      
      ‘And a lot also to do with previous sanctions and pressures brought to bear by ally China and Trump’s predecessors?’
      No
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:43am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red ,
        
        Yes !
        
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        April 18, 2018 10:50am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Stephieboy, No. Kim had the measure of Obama. Knew he was out of his depth and treated him accordingly, pandered to his sense of self importance and just keep on doing what he was doing quite happily confident that Obama would cravenly back down.
        
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        April 18, 2018 11:16am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Stephie
        NO
        Here’s South Korean President Moon Jae-in
        ‘”I give President Trump huge credit for bringing about the inter-Korean talks, and I’d like to thank him for that,” Moon said at a news conference in Seoul.’
        https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/South-Korean-president-credits-Trump-with-12487589.php
        
        Youre soooo dumb Stephie.
        
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        April 18, 2018 1:28pm
- Piniwi
  
  Interesting Ross12 but trade seems to be a better tool than diplomacy. The strength of Donald Trump as a trade oriented leader and a tough negotiator are apparent as it enhances diplomacy to get results. It is also noteworthy that despite all the attempts to find a diplomatic solution it only got some traction when the trade embargo started to be felt. The ultimate winners must be the people of North Korea that see real gains.
  
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  April 19, 2018 12:23am
Captain Mainwaring

The fucking left never gives up. According to Angry Andy it’s National’s fault that some Maori settlements are in disarray because ‘National pushed them through too fast.’
Nothing to do with never-ending complaints and renegotiations on the Maori side which Liarbore hasn’t got a shits-show of fixing.
What’s wrong with putting a line in the sand about righting all the historical wrongs?
Let’s put that line at about 1960 and to hell with anything that happened since.
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April 18, 2018 8:46am
- holysheet
  
  The problem has always been the words “FULL AND FINAL”
  Nothing in the murri language resembles these three words. It’s such a foreign concept that they have been back for more and more even after they have accepted a payout.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:52am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    “Full and Final” only has meaning if you believe in it.
    
    If the government doesn’t, then why should the iwi?
    
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    April 18, 2018 11:51am
- niggly
  
  What’s Angry on about? The Waitangi Tribunal works its way through the issues (not the govt) and if the Tribunal requires more time to consider the issues it generally gets its way. Eg look how many years it is taking to settle the claims from up north in Hone’s territory – it hasn’t been settled!
  
  I guess easier for Angry to blame National (in line with Labour’s “strategy” to blame everything on them whilst doing nothing – lol idiots) than to blame Maori themselves, otherwise he would be racist)! He would gain more credibility if he could remove that top-up feature that the first two tribes to settle receive (perhaps the first couple times it was “ok”, now it has become a joke, if not fraudulent).
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:09am
  - KevOB
    
    Every person up North is the head of a separate tribe or wants to be.
    
    There is no national Maori body so it is everyone for themselves. The tribes arrived separately and have stayed that way.
    
    Maori were fortunate we able to protect them when muskets became available.
    
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    April 18, 2018 12:49pm
- Piniwi
  
  Right Captain but a large part of the problem is these are A) tribal people and B) struggle to agree among themselves who has enough feathers to speak for them and handle the negotiations. Then bugger me after a full and final settlement they can still come back for top up. It will never end and they will never get “enough”.
  
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  April 19, 2018 1:57am
DifferentPerspective

Another UN “humanitarian” involved in pedophilia

So Peter Dalglish, the Canadian founder of StreetKids International (now merged with Save the Children) is under arrest in Nepal under pedophilia charges.

Looks like the Jimmy Saville model worked well for this dude too. So the simple formula for pedophiles to get access to children is:
– set up yourself up as a selfless campaigner for poor, suffering kids
– get widely praised by politicians for your “good work”(Dalglish was a 2016 Member of the Order of Canada awarded by Jacinda’s mate Trudeau)
– enjoy a lifetime of public praise and private child abuse.

Dalglish has done lots of work for the UN and WHO – clearly globalist sponsored pedophilia is a thing.

First we had Oxfam now this monster! Surely now it’s time to have a closer look at anyone setting themselves up as a children’s poverty charity/campaigner.
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April 18, 2018 8:55am
- stephieboy
  
  DP , is this code for stop and give up on all humanitarian work for street kids and the starving etc .
  As well as closing down the UN?
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:54am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Nothing coded there at all.
    
    I thought I couldn’t have been clearer that there is a pattern of pedophile behaviour from those wrapping themselves in the cloak of sanctimony associated with charity for children.
    
    Have a slice of pizza and chill out.
    
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    April 18, 2018 2:32pm
Monique Watson

Can someone clear this up for me? What’s the name of the Stuff Political reporter who just interviewed Little.
Jo Moir or Weir? Jeez she announced her own name and made a bollocks job of it though thankfully she pronounced Angela Merkel’s name correctly.
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April 18, 2018 8:59am
- stephieboy
  
  Monique Watson, a bollux of job just because it was disagreeable to you?
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:55am
RW Capitalist

90 day trial period is toast.
Watch unemployment rise (not entirely due to this but the pressure is in that direct)
Union idiot on TV1 claiming “hire and fire” policy of employers, really? The unions had a “name and shame” campaign for this, that they abandoned because they only found about 2 cases in 3 years.
The unions claims that somehow a job is a social responsibility of companies to do…what bollocks
a job is something a company need done, so they look for someone to do it, the “job” belongs to the company, the employee is the person THEY choose to fulfill that roll and the it is the RESPONSIBILITY of the employee to do that job.
It is the RESPONSIBILITY of the employer to make sure that their are no obstacles to the person doing there job (which would be counter productive)
such as
Safety
Tools
Timing
work environment
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April 18, 2018 9:14am
- stigie
  
  And union involvement coming in causing disruption !~
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:58am
Ross12

Interesting headline from the UK Telegraph ,given who our PM was recently fawning over

“The EU Britain voted to leave is dead. Emmanuel Macron will not make it any more tempting ”

( The article is behind a paywall)
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April 18, 2018 9:16am
dime

im still laughing at chompers.

apprently she got testy when asked about how she would handle being PM and having a baby.

she scowled and said something to the effect of “of course i can handle both jobs”

sweetheart, you cant handle the one fucking job!
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April 18, 2018 9:18am
- cmm
  
  The bigger question is whether she can handle the really important job – being a good mother.
  
  If even half the rumours are true it sounds like a tailor-made CYFS case.
  
  Poor kid.
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:25am
  - alex Masterley
    
    I already feel sorry for the poor little blighter.
    It wont be able to have a “normal” childhood.
    The media will collectively wet itself when it is born, walks, talks etc etc.
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:49am
    - Nermal
      
      The little fellow comes from a very shallow gene pool
      
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      April 18, 2018 3:45pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  The proof of the pudding is in the eating…
  So far sweaty…..The one job you have at the moment, the “eating” has proved to be pretty sour and has, for the voting public, a distinct flavour of dead rat.
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:37am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Interesting that Stuff recently carried an article about how people often think they can carry on just as before after having a baby, and how totally wrong they are. Surely they can’t have failed to notice the relevance?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/mums-life/103153330/i-became-a-mother–and-lost-all-my-friends
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:25am
- waikatogirl
  
  Cindy is looking awfully thin to the point of looking unwell. Her baby must be a real socialist, it seems to be sucking the life out of its mother. Perhaps it is time for the mother-to-be to rest instead of flitting all over the world.
  
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  April 18, 2018 11:06am
- KevOB
  
  She doesn’t know yet the size and specs of the job. Even getting live in care for the infant aint going to help the after affects.
  She still has the rest of the term to go too–the hazardous (easy?) bit.
  
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  April 18, 2018 12:52pm
- Surely Knott
  
  The other laughable comment about that interview was Jacinda being compared to Trump who now says the country is outwardly facing and will take more refugees. Interviewer: So your not planning to build a wall? – Me: We are a bloody island. We don’t need a wall. She absolutely along with the dwarf was elected in part on her anti imigration rhetoric.
  
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  April 18, 2018 12:53pm
Anne Glen Eden

Mike Hosking, about Israel Folau, has once again lost all contact with rationality, giving in to a dumb, lynch-mob mentality. It’s the ultimate example of ‘shooting the messenger’ – or crucifying Christ.

Hosking says, “If, say, I had said the same thing on my show but not backed it up with the same religious belief, that would be hate speech…”

But Folau didn’t just ‘say it’. He was asked a direct question, however disingenuously, in his private capacity, about Christianity specifically.

More to the point, Hosking says, “Which is why Folau is not in more trouble than he is, he has the partial protection of the Bible.”

Well, he would. The original question from Mike Sephton-Poultney – a senior trader at World Sports Betting as far as I’m aware (and clearly setting Folau up) – was
“@izzyfolau what was gods plan for gay people??” he asked.

Note: what was GOD’s PLAN, not Israel Folau’s plan. ‘God’s plan’ is only described in the Bible – the sole source of information on ‘God’s plan’. What other basis is there for an answer to the question?
Israel Folau gave an entirely truthful answer – what the Bible says from cover to cover – “HELL…Unless they repent of their sins and turn to God.”

Hosking says, “If you’re doing it in the name of a God or higher being or a belief, is that a crime or a heartfelt conviction?”

Sorry. Israel Folau did not choose to spontaneously inform the world of that plan. The question was a request for information on Christianity as stated in the Bible. The answer remains the same whether Folau is a Christian or not – should have been the same if he was Buddhist or atheist. There is only one truthful answer to that question and it was the one he gave. If that is to be considered ‘hate speech’, then all reference books about everything have to be thrown out.

Israel Folau is not God – and cannot change what God ‘said’ in the Bible – whether he believes what is said in the Bible is moot and entirely up to him.

Hosking says, “And if we accept you can do and say whatever you like based on biblical teachings, then why can’t you go round quoting, believing and acting on any biblical teachings…”

Well, everyone does, all the time – often not even realising where their words or actions derive from. But there’s no doubt that most of the ‘relativism’ in Western society derives from Christian tolerance’ and ‘acceptance’ and ‘love’. Should someone be prosecuted or lynched for saying “When in Rome, do as the Romans do.”

“…And that’s a responsibility and/or privilege that brings restraint, containment and restriction. ”
Gosh. Do I take it that we are all now forbidden to ‘quote’, ‘believe’, or ‘act on’ any source of information at all that isn’t certified as acceptable? Just how are we going to do that? Do we have to get a legal opinion before we think, say, or do anything at all? From the Human Rights Commission? A judge? The lynch mob? The neighbour? Twitter? The MSM?

But ultimately, what is entirely absent from Hoskings rant is – what was the ‘right’ answer supposed to be and based on what source of information? Ironically, one based on another BELIEF in a different RELIGION (as defined by ‘a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion’) held by a different group of people – the supposedly ‘RIGHT’ people who are opposed to Christianity.

Hosking says, “I like the idea of free speech, but when left to its base devices, it can turn very ugly, very quickly.”

Yes, it can. The real truth of this situation is that the original question was very, very ‘ugly’ – and typical of the gay lobby. It sought to invade the private space and dignity of an individual BECAUSE he is “a public figure and representative of his sport and country” and publicly lynch him for the inevitable truthful response.

It is a common and morally evil tactic which seeks to turn every member of society into a compromised liar with no ethics, integrity, or honesty – mouthing the ‘right’ words/views about the ‘right’ people/things and ultimately seeking to control their thoughts as well. Only the completely submissive and obedient should be allowed to work, play sport, govern the country…. ‘others’ should be destroyed.

Hosking says, “…a lot of historic conflict is a direct reaction to religious belief and teachings.”
Yes. ‘Religious’ – a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion. One group decides that they are ‘right’ and they will do anything, damage anyone to any degree, cause any war, to force others to comply with their particular beliefs. It’s simple evil. It creates Hell on earth.

And in this case, it derives from Mike Sephton-Poultney and the gay lobby, prominently figuring the CEO of Qantas, Alan Joyce, who is described by the Financial Times in Sydney as someone who “does not shy away from a fight when standing up for his BELIEFS” and was accused of “…using shareholder funds to “bully” the government [on gay issues]. He demanded they “stick to their knitting”.

But it’s okay when it’s their ‘beliefs’ – no ‘God’ authority. Just theirs – cause they know the whole truth about everything, all the time. And if they don’t, you have to say they do anyway.
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April 18, 2018 9:50am
- dime
  
  the gay mafia are all powerful.
  
  he should stand his ground. he is the wallabies best player. they would be nuts to fire him.
  
  just another example of the left shutting down free speech.
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:18am
- Kimbo
  
  1. Folau didn’t have to answer
  
  2. He is entitled to say/report what he did, irrespective of it bing Christian, Muslim, Vegan belief, whatever
  
  3. Others are entitled to be outraged.
  
  4. Aussie rugby is entitled to to action, including terminating his services if they deem it has financially harmed them.
  
  5. No, Christ is not being crucified anew.
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:37am
  - Anne Glen Eden
    
    1. It was a question with an ‘ugly’ motivation, from an ‘ugly’ human being, on behalf of an ‘ugly’ group; the latter not referring to homosexuals but those who seek to harm/destroy/sacrifice the lives of others for holding a different view.
    
    2. He is entitled to answer a direct and specific question. He is morally bound to answer it honestly if he does.
    
    3. Others are free to feel whatever they like – but not act on it to harm others, particularly in the social sphere.
    
    4. Aussie rugby, and all other sport, is responsible for being ‘sporting’ and ‘fair’, which includes choosing their teams based on sporting ability, not ‘race, color, religious creed, national origin, ancestry, sex, sexual orientation, age, genetic information, military service, or disability’.
    
    5. Of course Christ is being crucified anew. It’s precisely what he was crucified for – stating God’s plan which was different to the desired view of the those who had the power to do it. Let alone that symbolically, it’s a question of someone trying to destroy a life because of a ‘view’ they don’t like.
    
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    April 18, 2018 10:59am
  - Disillusioned_Voter
    
    All true.
    What I find frustrating, and disingenuous is the hidden assumption that:
    1. He was singling out “the Gays™”
    2. He wishes Ill tidings on “the Gays™”
    3. It is his personal plan, that he made up. By himself. Without reference to authority.
    
    Just smacks to me of people looking to be offended, while giving 0 f**ks about nuance or context… and comments like McCos’ below are a good example of 2 .
    
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    April 18, 2018 11:47am
  - Kimbo
    
    @ Anne Glen Eden
    
    Of course Christ is being crucified anew. It’s precisely what he was crucified for – stating God’s plan which was different to the desired view of…those who had the power to do it.
    
    Just because you assert “of course” doesn’t make it so. Especially as
    
    1. Christ’s was not crucified for his views on homosexuality, which seem to be in agreement with First Century Jewish orthodoxy.
    
    2. Substitute the words “Israel Folau”, “Christ” and “crucified anew” with “Sonny Bill Williams”, “Muhammad” and “flight from Mecca to Medina”, and I doubt you’ld be arguing “of course” about God’s Plan. ?
    
    But hey, it’s not the first time you’ve used current events as a disconnected pretext/spring board for an unrelated sermon. ?
    
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    April 18, 2018 1:05pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Also, while they have a duty of care to act as a good employer of Folau, Aussie rugby’s primary responsibility is to the good of Aussie rugby. Including financially. If on balance they think it best he goes, then he goes. A fact Folau himself acknowledged when he offered to resign.
    
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    April 18, 2018 1:14pm
- MCos
  
  You can spin it however much you like.
  It’s clear Folau despises gays enough that in his narrow world they will be condemned to eternal damnation and he doesn’t mind telling anyone his views.
  
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  April 18, 2018 11:02am
  - Disillusioned_Voter
    
    If you take the time to unpack what he said, it’s much worse than just “despising gays”. Hell is where all The Unrepentant will go… my guess is that that would include you?
    Actually, that’s a pretty inclusive worldview 🙂
    Are you sufficiently offended now?
    
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    April 18, 2018 11:19am
    - MCos
      
      I’m no more offended by this gentleman than all the other biblebashers that come to my door to tell they can save me from my evil ways.
      
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      April 18, 2018 12:17pm
      - Disillusioned_Voter
        
        If that were truly the case, you wouldn’t be assigning motive (It’s clear Folau despises gays…) or passing judgement on the validity of his personal beliefs ( …his narrow world…)
        
        As an aside, you’re right to reject any person who claims that they can save you from your evil ways.
        
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        April 18, 2018 1:22pm
- Fletch
  
  And then they have Matt whathisname from Breakfast saying he is a proud gay man and we all have to be accepting yada yada.
  
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  April 18, 2018 11:13am
  - Disillusioned_Voter
    
    Breakfast Hosts: Shoving personal agendas down the throats of the great unwashed since ages ago.
    #NotMyNationalBroadcaster.
    
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    April 18, 2018 11:32am
  - GoVege
    
    News Alert….straight from God:
    The Silver Ferns lost because Ms Folau and her hubby angered Me by indulging in some antiquated gay-bashing.
    
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    April 18, 2018 12:37pm
- GoVege
  
  What a rant, Anne.
  Just tell us, did Christ say that gays are going to hell?
  
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  April 18, 2018 12:42pm
  - itstricky
    
    You can’t ask her that question. It’s “ugly” ™ and you can only be up to no good.
    
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    April 18, 2018 12:54pm
  - Disillusioned_Voter
    
    an unrepentant murderer will go to Hell*
    an unrepentant liar will go to Hell*
    an unrepentant thief will go to Hell*
    an unrepentant Idolater will go to Hell*
    the unrepentant sexually immoral will go to Hell*
    
    basically, the unrepentant will go to Hell*, but don’t take my word for it… You can read the Bible for yourself.
    
    * Hell may or may not include:
    – continuous punishment
    – a second death
    – an exclusion from God’s presence
    but it’s quite clearly an outcome to be avoided .
    
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    April 18, 2018 1:40pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Disillusioned_Voter,
      
      an unrepentant liar will go to Hell*
      
      the unrepentant sexually immoral will go to Hell*
      
      etc etc
      
      The prospects for the US president are not looking very good.
      
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      April 18, 2018 2:51pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Do you know the Dons secret prayer life Stephie?
        
        I’ve never seen you repent for perving at little girls so perhaps you should shut your fucking mouth for once.
        
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        April 18, 2018 3:25pm
    - Swifty
      
      Disillusioned_Voter, what about those who reject any notion of God?
      
      Where will those bastards end up?
      
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      April 18, 2018 3:37pm
  - Anne Glen Eden
    
    You should be ashamed, GoVege. Congratulating me on having tried to defend two gay women from a mob when young – while believing it’s okay when gays BECOME the mob going after a Christian /anyone else. It’s the ‘mob’ mentality that’s the problem.
    
    Your simplistic question is also shallow and futile. Jesus is a Jew. His purpose is to fulfil the Law of the Old Testament without changing ‘one jot or one tittle’ of it. His personal statements recorded in the New Testament are necessarily abbreviated. Was the New Testament supposed to rewrite the whole of the Old – or Jesus just sit and recite it as Muslims learn to recite the Koran? Notwithstanding that he read and taught from it in the synagogue because that was the Jewish source document.
    
    I could say the Old Testament is clear about a lot of things, including:
    
    “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination…If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.”
    
    But more than that – “The account [of Sodom] describes the men of the city attempting to forcibly have sex with two angelic visitors to the city, who have appeared in the form of men. Later parts of the Old Testament accuse Sodom of a range of sins: oppression, adultery, lying, abetting criminals, arrogance, complacency and indifference to the poor.”
    
    As Israel Folau pointed out, the Bible doesn’t single out gays as the only ‘sinners’ who, all on their own, are going to hell. He was only asked about gays. There’s all the others as well, which is all of us – who don’t ‘repent’ and accept Christ.
    
    I could say that Jesus said:
    
    But He answered and said to them, Why do you also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, “Honor your father and mother”; and, “He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him die by death.” But you say [splitting hairs], Whoever says to his father or mother, Whatever you would gain from me, It is a gift to God; and in no way he honors his father or his mother. And you voided the commandment of God by your tradition.
    
    Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, “This people draws near to Me with their mouth, and honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. But in vain they worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.”
    
    “But the things which come out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and these defile the man. For out of the heart come forth reasonings, evil things, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, lies, blasphemies. These things are the things defiling the man.”
    
    “And He said to them, Go into all the world, preach the gospel to all the creation. The one believing and being baptized will be saved. And the one not believing will be condemned.” The just shall be saved by faith – which is why the evil try to remove the opportunity for anyone to make a personal choice.
    
    I could go on but what for? Those deliberately trying to justify lies and oppression aren’t going to be ‘reasonable’ or truthful about what’s in the Bible. The clear emphasis of the whole Bible is on God/ Jesus judging the ‘spirit’ and ‘heart’ but that’s distorted as well – nominating some people as ‘justified’ in targeting their victims.
    
    But while I’m at it, God – as God – can do whatever He likes and there’s nothing Israel Folau or anyone else can do about it. Any ‘debate’ is completely futile.
    
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    April 18, 2018 2:06pm
    - Swifty
      
      Oh, I don’t think the debate is futile Anne Glen Eden, not at all.
      
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      April 18, 2018 4:00pm
    - GoVege
      
      Stop raving and just answer the question, Anne.
      
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      April 18, 2018 5:19pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        Right. I’ll try to keep it simple then. In Christianity:
        
        Anyone not believing in God, not acknowledging and repenting of their sins (which are inevitable), not accepting Jesus Christ’s (as the Son of God) death on the Cross as payment for their sins, could be said to be going to hell / is condemned.
        
        ‘Gays’ are part of ‘anyone’. They’re not special.
        
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        April 18, 2018 5:39pm
      - GoVege
        
        I’ll take that as a yes, Anne.
        But why didn’t Folau just say all sinners are going to hell?
        I reckon coz most so-called Christian males, especially from Pacifica cultures such as his own, while claiming to be goody goody Christians, are actually sinners of the adulterer/wife-bashing/ frequenters of prostitutes kind.
        “Sinners” might be too close for comfort so better to single out a minority such as gays to pick on.
        
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        April 18, 2018 6:40pm
- KevOB
  
  The Holy Bible is the Word of God to the World. It cannot be re-written if it displeases. Many, even believers, will read it differently but the message endures for all and all time.
  
  We seem to have arrived at a time of disbelief and perverted or inverted truth.
  
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  April 18, 2018 1:01pm
  - Swifty
    
    What a pity some of it can’t be re-written, along with the Torah, and the Koran etc etc etc….
    
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    April 18, 2018 4:33pm
gorse

When is National going to move a vote of no confidence? Surely there must be a time when the COL don’t have the numbers?
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April 18, 2018 9:52am
- Albert_Ross
  
  If they have such intentions and are moving behind the scenes to collect the numbers I think it would be very unwise of them to say anything about it publicly before they are good and ready.
  
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  April 18, 2018 10:21am
- rangitoto
  
  So who will cross the floor?
  
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  April 18, 2018 11:51am
  - MCos
    
    Jiang Yang
    
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    April 18, 2018 1:36pm
- Piniwi
  
  But gorse IMO it is what the Gang Green threatened to get the Captains call to kill oil and gas exploration. They now have an ardent activist as co-leader and have had time to get at least some idea about what confidence and supply really means. Playing safe and ignoring them like the old drunk did could bring about the downfall of the COL. He thinks putting them in the middle is a safe move but they are bat shit crazy so a vote of no confidence is their best tool to driving the country to the brink.
  
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  April 19, 2018 2:13am
hullkiwi

Seems Pot Plant Sage is not happy when councils exercising their legal authority make decisions contrary to her view of the world.

Exercising their authority, Northland Regional Council have approved an application for extraction of kauri gum from a peat swamp/not. Reports identify that the extraction and remedial work will be beneficial, because it will result in the removal of invasive exotic plants. But Pot Plant, is not happy & wants the bog left as a “natural habitat” for the invasive species.

As an expression of her authority she has telegraphed that she is seeking a judicial review of the council’s decision. Great, so now we are going to have councils second guessing the decision making of Pot Plant in order to avoid their decisions being challenged by an over teaching minister.

Suggestion: if it involves the environment let’s send all applications to the Minister to let her make the decision and avoid her clogging up the system with judicial reviews. Needless to say, applicants will clog up the system appealing her decisions.
101 on how to bring government to a halt.
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White House Throws Nikki Haley Under the Bus as New Russia Sanctions Are Put on Hold

U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley announced a new round of sanctions against Russia on Sunday. She was wrong.

On Sunday, Nikki Haley, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, announced that the Treasury Department would be rolling out tough new sanctions against Russia on Monday as punishment for its continued support of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad.

But not 24 hours later, the White House threw Haley under the bus with a clear, contradictory message: Not so fast.

“We are considering additional sanctions on Russia and a decision will be made in the near future,” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said.
Sources familiar with the sanctions rollout process described a chaotic back-and-forth as lawmakers and staffers were struggling to figure out what Haley was exactly referring to. It was unlikely that Haley, who has been lauded by lawmakers from both parties for her tough anti-Kremlin positions, would have misspoken so egregiously if a sanctions regime was not already in the works…”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-throws-nikki-haley-under-the-bus-as-new-russia-sanctions-are-put-on-hold
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April 18, 2018 11:11am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Haley was trolling the media, just like Trump does. Hahahaha!!!
  
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  April 18, 2018 6:01pm
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More proof Australia’s housing market is broken: Dilapidated western Sydney terrace with cracked walls, rusty pipes and rooms strewn with rubbish sells for a staggering $1.4MILLION … DAILY MAIL

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5625591/Dilapidated-western-Sydney-terrac-sells-staggering-1-4million.html

• A three-bedroom property on Railway Avenue in Stanmore, western Sydney, was snapped up on Monday

• Estate agents advertised it with: ‘Renovators will delight in the chance to transform this untouched classic’

• It comes after a global study ranked Australia as second most expensive country in which to buy property
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April 18, 2018 11:28am
stigie

Im just devastated Hugh !~
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April 18, 2018 11:57am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  ANZ economists say the cost of building a new house has become more attractive relative to the cost of buying an existing one | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93266/anz-economists-say-cost-building-new-house-has-become-more-attractive-relative-cost
  
  ANZ economists say that despite rising construction and land costs, the high existing house prices in New Zealand have made building a house more attractive relative to buying an existing one.
  
  In the bank’s latest Property Focus publication, chief economist Sharon Zollner, senior economist Liz Kendall and senior macro strategist Philip Borkin say the cost of building (based on the cost of a section and a new dwelling) can be compared with the cost of an existing house through a measure known as “Tobin’s Q for housing”.
  
  “Building tends to increase when the cost of a new build becomes cheaper relative to buying an existing dwelling,” they say.
  
  “Prices for existing houses have increased 50% since the start of 2012, whereas we estimate that the cost of a new dwelling (including land and construction) has increased 30% over the same period.
  
  “The location and composition of new versus existing housing can differ, of course, but this comparison gives a general indication of how relative costs have evolved.
  
  “Building has become more attractive relative to buying and consents have risen accordingly.” … read more via hyperlink above …
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  … NEW ZEALAND GOVERNMENT EXPLAINS FOCUS AND COMMITMENT TO SOUND INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING …
  
  Mondays fresh focus and commitment to sound infrastructure financing …
  
  The Minister of Transport Phil Twyford says there is a “great deal of interest” from private capital providers when it comes to investing in New Zealand’s transport infrastructure – he is welcoming their interest | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/business/93209/minister-transport-phil-twyford-says-there-%E2%80%9Cgreat-deal-interest%E2%80%9D-private-capital
  
  … following months of confusion and Friday’s interview of Housing & Transport Minister Phil Twyford by Newstalk ZB Christchurch Chris Lynch …
  
  https://www.facebook.com/chrislynchzb/videos/1768362633223469/
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  United Nations calls on NZ to adopt human rights-based national housing strategy | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/102830739/united-nations-calls-on-nz-to-adopt-human-rightsbased-national-housing-strategy
  
  Housing Minister supports UN call for housing strategy | Māori Television
  
  http://www.maoritelevision.com/news/politics/housing-minister-supports-un-call-housing-strategy
  
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  April 18, 2018 4:54pm
Surely Knott

Before next election I think we need a virtue signalling report on our local Councillors. Some local councillors put up on their facebook page issues affecting the local community for meaningful discussion, and report on projects and expenditure and progress being made by council.. Other local councillors facebook pages resemble Trudeaus trip to India with selfies of themselves in ethnic garb, or at eco conferences, or at various meetings. But it’s as if they actively avoid having online discussions wiht their constituents. And online should be just as valid a place for a community discussion as a physical community meeting.
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April 18, 2018 12:03pm
Viking2

Witnesses who watched an armed police stop unfold on Cambridge Road describe the event as “crazy”.

One of the witnesses says two police cars stopped a red car on Cambridge Road after following the vehicle for a while.

“Police had closed down Cambridge Road as they took someone into custody just before 8pm.

“It was an armed stop. They had followed the car from the Mount.

“I saw them as I was directly behind the police cars. They all turned their lights on and pulled the car over about 20m from Te Atatu Place.

“One of the police units parked in the middle of the road and didn’t allow us past for five minutes.

“I saw police with guns pointed at the vehicle and the officers were yelling commands at the driver.”

The witness says police then took the driver into custody and re-opened the road.

Another witness described the event as “completely crazy”.

A police spokesperson says all the information they have at this stage is that a “routine traffic stop was conducted on Cambridge Road in the last hour”.
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So, reading the police comment and adding the eye witness accounts we would have to believe that routine traffic stops are now accompanied by a selection of the constabulary guns.

Be nice if Labour had signed that new approach. Transparent not.

https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/177703-armed-police-stop-tauranga.html

Then there is this.
https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/177721-fake-gun-triggers-armed-police-stop.html
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April 18, 2018 12:21pm
JasonJohns

Barbara Bush is dead.
RIP.
She lit up our lives.
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April 18, 2018 12:26pm
Monique Watson

Say what you will about Ardern. She’s going off like a frog in the socks with Mac’s, Merkel and now May.
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April 18, 2018 1:07pm
- Komata
  
  Monique
  
  Love the similie. Quite made my afternoon. 🙂
  Thank you.
  
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  April 18, 2018 1:44pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    Always happy to entertain and please 🙂
    
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    April 18, 2018 1:56pm
- cmm
  
  Frog in socks???
  
  I feel I’m missing something Monique. Can you draw me a picture?
  
  I just thought they were being polite with the little girl of little brain who came to play.
  
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  April 18, 2018 2:44pm
Fletch

Annnddd.. TVNZ plays the gay victim card…

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/dear-israel-folau-ve-already-been-hell
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April 18, 2018 1:07pm
- Kimbo
  
  Fair enough. We have a couple of Roman Catholic martyrs round here manifesting stigmata at the first sleight! ?
  
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  April 18, 2018 1:19pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I Object. As a staunch Roman Catholic I am “Offended”. A Martyr is a DEAD Catholic. Now you are saying dead Catholics are posting on this blog? Special place in HELL for you types, you know, ( just around the corner from all the Gays)….
    
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    April 19, 2018 8:13am
- itstricky
  
  Is someone who is punched in the head not a victim?
  
  Is no-one allowed to publish responses?
  
  Are only people who have not been punched in the head allowed to publish responses?
  
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  April 18, 2018 1:21pm
  - Fletch
    
    But the reporter is specifically using her violent encounter to attack Folau, who had absolutely nothing to do with it and wouldn’t have approved of it. It’s not his fault and it has nothing to do with hate or so-called “hate speech”. It is, as I said, playing the victim card.
    
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    April 18, 2018 1:30pm
    - itstricky
      
      The reporter is using her life experience to portray an example of what happens when unjustified attitudes for a group of people spread.
      
      I wouldn’t call Folau’s words hate speech, but I’d certainly call them unjustified.
      
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      April 18, 2018 2:22pm
      - Disillusioned_Voter
        
        2000 odd years of Christian teaching is unjustified.
        Got it.
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:25pm
      - itstricky
        
        And… it’s interesting that your original post states that she is a “gay victim”.
        
        That’s right – she’s not just a victim, she’s a “gay victim”.
        
        Nothing like minimising someone’s severe brain injuries down to “just another complaining gay”
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:26pm
      - itstricky
        
        2000 odd years of Christian teaching is unjustified.
        
        Could have sworn you were talking about blatantly* (TM) false equivalence a minute ago?
        
        (TM) Kimbo’s law 2015
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:28pm
      - Kimbo
        
        According to Folau’s and others’ values they were justified.
        
        On the basis of free speech they were justified.
        
        On the basis he was giving a straight answer to a straight question they were justified.
        
        Perhaps everyone can agree they are in poor taste according to yet others.
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:29pm
      - Disillusioned_Voter
        
        What Folau said was in agreement with Traditional Christian teaching, that unrepentant sinners were destined for destruction.
        
        for clarity,
        
        God’s word, paraphrased in a tweet ≠ punching someone in the head hard enough to cause brain damage.
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:33pm
      - Kimbo
        
        (TM) Kimbo’s law 2015
        
        Ok, now this is getting difficult to decide which of the two of you I favour in this disagreement, seeing you are both assisting Kimbo’s law reach internet meme status. ?
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:35pm
      - itstricky
        
        According to Folau’s and others’ values they were justified.
        
        And, according to my values, the words of a mythical deity do not constitute justification.
        
        In fact, that, and a raft of other things, such as stoning to death for adultery fall in my bucket of completely unjustified.
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:58pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Yep, fair enough. And you did qualify it with:
        
        I’d certainly call them unjustified…(they) fall in my bucket of completely unjustified.
        
        But you do know that emphatic adverb “certainly” (2x!) was unnecessary, perhaps even gratuitous? ?
        
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        April 18, 2018 3:03pm
      - itstricky
        
        God’s word, paraphrased in a tweet ≠ punching someone in the head hard enough to cause brain damage
        
        I can’t see anywhere that I have stated that to be true.
        
        And I don’t think the author has, either.
        
        They’ve suggested that their personal incident occurred because of a rise of unjustified attitudes and that Folau is contributing to those. I would agree with that.
        
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        April 18, 2018 3:04pm
      - itstricky
        
        But you do know that emphatic adverb “certainly”
        
        Busted again.
        
        I must say you are making my writing more concise. Surely* you are making the world a better place, one word at a time.
        
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        April 18, 2018 3:11pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Israel Folau has his influence in the world, I have mine. ?
        
        Not sure of the extent that tweets like Israel Folau’s contribute to someone being hit in the head
        
        …but if it was SBW who said it, I think some around here who are leaping to Folau’s defence would be preaching a very different tune. ?
        
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        April 18, 2018 3:15pm
      - itstricky
        
        …but if it was SBW who said it, I think some around here who are leaping to Folau’s defence would be preaching a very different tune.
        
        Without a doubt. The mythical deity justification factor crumbles in the multiverse.
        
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        April 18, 2018 3:34pm
      - Disillusioned_Voter
        
        They’ve suggested that their personal incident occurred because of a rise of unjustified attitudes and that Folau is contributing to those. I would agree with that.
        
        And I don’t think that you are justified in making the claim that Folau is contributing to that.
        
        He was asked a direct, and some might say loaded, question.
        He gave an answer which, not only is consistent with pretty much all of Church teaching, he in no way advocated, condoned or promoted violence toward anybody.
        It seems to me that you are trying to say one (tweet) can or will lead to the other (assault). Are you not then also committed to saying one is responsible for the other? Because that’s how I am hearing you and why I said God’s word, paraphrased in a tweet ≠ punching someone in the head
        
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        April 18, 2018 3:41pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”2000 odd years of Christian teaching is unjustified”…..
        
        You’ve finally twigged.
        
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        April 18, 2018 5:58pm
      - itstricky
        
        He was asked a direct, and some might say loaded, question.
        
        Write it however you like – he didn’t have to answer, and if he did, he didn’t have to write it in the way that he did.
        
        It seems to me that you are trying to say one (tweet) can or will lead to the other (assault)
        
        No. If you look very closely you will see that I wrote “unjustified attitudes” (plural) resulted in violence and that, my opinion, his statement (singular) was unjustified.
        
        One is a bunch of attitudes, or people with attitudes, and the other is a single statement made by a single person.
        
        If such unjustified (in my opinion) statements are widespread they will eventually become an attitude and resulting violence but I am not equating his statement directly with a punch in the head.
        
        It is a contributing factor, in other words.
        
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        April 18, 2018 6:05pm
  - Disillusioned_Voter
    
    No, that person quite clearly is a victim
    No. No one is making that claim.
    No. Refer above.
    But it helps when the response is not a blatantly false equivalence.
    
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    April 18, 2018 2:07pm
    - Kimbo
      
      You do know that “blatantly” could qualify as an emphatic adverb? ?
      
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      April 18, 2018 2:21pm
      - Disillusioned_Voter
        
        Absolutely positively with 150% certainty beyond any doubt.
        
        I defer to Your superior wordsmithing. 🙂
        
        Could you please develop some sort of yardstick to provide clarity, going forward, for the avoidance of doubt, for when an adverb ceases to add acceptable emphasis and become “emphatic”?
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:24pm
      - Kimbo
        
        You may have only posted on some 155 occasions, Disillusioned_Voter, but I like the cut of your jib! ?
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:27pm
      - Disillusioned_Voter
        
        I’ve been around, in various forms and for varying frequencies since the good old days, where only game of the day was to get PhilU to have a meltdown.
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:38pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Fair enough. In that case, if one of your prior identities is that prick Shawn Herles, get a big black dog up you. If not, ignore and as you were.
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:42pm
      - stigie
        
        “where only game of the day was to get PhilU to have a meltdown.”
        
        Success was done by only a handful of determined Kiwiblogers !~
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:53pm
      - starboard
        
        Oh, that was fun.. Baiting the violent chemist shop robber Phil U!
        What a cherry that guy was. Drug addled bum. I wonder if he still has Whoar! or did the Americans give him 8 bucks plus gst for it heh. ?
        
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        April 18, 2018 4:30pm
      - stigie
        
        Too true starboard, i first came onto to Kiwiblog when Philu was in full flight wondering who is this fella talking so much shit to pragmatic people on here. Apart from his shit was his punctuation that use to do my head in !~…eh…,
        
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        April 18, 2018 5:05pm
    - Disillusioned_Voter
      
      I most emphatically deny, in the strongest possible terms, any connection to, or assertion that I am in fact, Shawn Herles.
      
      What is your postal address? hurt feelings report coming your way 🙂
      
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      April 18, 2018 2:48pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Whoar was fun to wind up. A seriously fucked unit who caved in the end ….
      
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      April 18, 2018 6:11pm
RF

We have a new Government and usually you would be prepared to give it a fair go to govern. Ideally such a government would implement new ideas that would be for the good of this country. One would also hope that the new PM had a mature intelligent head on his or her shoulders.

Unfortunately this new Govt feels me with dread and I do not have an ounce of respect for them.

We have a galah for a PM who does not think before opening her mouth making click bait statements that could reflect badly on our country.

The 3 headed monster will not survive.
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April 18, 2018 2:53pm
VicParking

Fletcher Tabuteau Deputy Leader of NZ First says while visiting Whanganui:
“Taranaki people were upset about Government’s decision to end new oil and gas exploration, he said. They didn’t realise existing permits for exploration and drilling would provide enough gas for decades.”

Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment Say in their paper ‘Energy in No 2017:
‘At current levels of gas use, remaining natural gas reserves would be exhausted in 11 years
A total of 196 PJ of gas was used across energy transformation, non-energy use, and consumption in the 2016 year. If gas used was held at this amount each year remaining recoverable reserves of natural gas would be exhausted in 11 years.’

Who do you believe?
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April 18, 2018 3:14pm
- Kimbo
  
  NZ First. After all, they are experts on methane gas levels in coal mines, so why not all natural gas? ?
  
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  April 18, 2018 3:20pm
  - RalphT
    
    Yes, NZ First. They produce enough hot air and gases to keep us going for decades.
    
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    April 18, 2018 3:50pm
- Ross12
  
  The question to ask Tabuteau , Vic, is if that is the case what was achieved with the move other than pissing off the people in Taranaki and elsewhere?
  He is also another idiot who doesn’t realise that when the gas is found a mining license has to be applied for –given what the PM has done this license is not likely to be given, as the Government would look stupid. Because of this most companies will not even start exploratory drilling.
  OMV had plans to start a major program in 2019 –we’ll see if this goes ahead.
  
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  April 18, 2018 3:38pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  ” non-energy use”
  One of these is a large scale conversion of Natural gas to fertilizer (I’ve been to the plant).
  How will we replace this?
  Imports?
  
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  April 18, 2018 5:30pm
stephieboy

A must view,

One for the Trump troll army !

Hitler Bunker Parody – Donald Trump finds out that the office of his private attorney, Michael Cohen has been raided by the FBI. Well, we know how the scene goes from the movie Downfall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar79pQCNGtE
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April 18, 2018 3:27pm
- UpandComer
  
  Imagine if the deep state ever raided anyone not a Republican lol.
  
  You might like this. Wasn’t going to post it because Kiwiblog is nice and chipper today but here you are:
  
  http://voxday.blogspot.com.au/2018/04/avoiding-elephant.html?m=1
  
  They just can’t figure out why their education system is an abysmal failure. Can’t possibly figure it out. As someone whose experience learning maths was destroyed from being in a class room with Hyper Samoan guys who would throw desks around and shit and never stop talking or acting out every class this speaks to me.
  
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  April 18, 2018 6:15pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Thanks for that sonny. Hey, you got an uptick, but you are still a moron and fuckwit
  
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  April 18, 2018 6:18pm
starboard

School holidays shariaboy.. Hangin out at St Lukes as usual are we? Perving at nubile young Muslim girls? Ya filthy dirt bag.
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April 18, 2018 4:34pm
- stigie
  
  Is this what he is perving at or younger..?
  
  https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7337/12268243404_1723fffcb5_b.jpg
  
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  April 18, 2018 5:13pm
  - nasska
    
    Shit! He’s a sick unit stigie!
    
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    April 18, 2018 6:27pm
    - stigie
      
      We’ve all been a bit perverted in our time Nasska but not as perverted as our Stiffy..?
      
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      April 18, 2018 7:42pm
BananaLlama

Labor Labor Labor Labor Labor Labor Labor Labor Labor.
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April 18, 2018 5:14pm
Don the Kiwi

Just returned from 10 great days on the South Coast of NSW – days of 29 – 32 deg. – walking, swimming, re-acquainting with good Aussie beer & wine, good friends and relatives not seen for 15 years (lived there for 10 years in the 1980’s, had a few trips since) –

And return to a crappier Govt. than they were 12 days ago. That’s chillier than the 10 deg. drop in temperatures.

Gotta remove this useless bloody govt. Thank you Winston – you little fucking arsehole. (That’s my wife talking – I don’t usually swear that much 😉
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April 18, 2018 5:41pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Foster carer jailed for sexual abuse of foster girls.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/103208037/former-foster-carer-jailed-for-12-years-for-sexually-abusing-children

“I don’t believe someone like Mr Wilson would pass the Oranga Tamariki assessment process.”

Well, looks like he passed the assessment process back when Oranga Tamariki was CYFS.

I wonder how the Regional Manager can be so sure that they would be able to identify a dodgy care-giver.
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April 18, 2018 6:06pm
- nasska
  
  ….”which included assessment by trained social workers, personal and professional character references, and the usual police checks.”…..
  
  1) AFAIK the police checks will only turn up prior convictions or possibly complaints.
  
  2) “personal and professional character references”. Has anyone ever seen a bad one?
  
  3) “assessment by trained social workers”. Witch sniffing by academic incompetents.
  
  I hope for the future of kids needing fostering that Mr McKenzie is right but his confidence isn’t reassuring.
  
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  April 18, 2018 6:25pm
Monique Watson

I just think this as funny as fuck and so typically New Zealand:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12035106

If you weren’t slagging around the beaches by the time you were sixteen with at least nine of your best mates hanging onto the skidders then you weren’t a real adult. How times change.
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April 18, 2018 6:12pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s school hols.
  Our little Honda got pinched during school hols some years back. (Hubby had filled up the garage with his ancient Austins.. so I had to park my car on the road).
  6 months later, cops ring to report our Honda had been found… in neighbouring suburb where it had been parked for the last 6 months. We went to retrieve it… baby seat still in the back, no damage, but McDonald hamburger wrappers and Coke bottles littering the inside….
  Lazy little buggers had taken our car from Island Bay so they could go to Newtown McDonalds (about a 20min walk).
  
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  April 18, 2018 6:27pm
dad4justice

Peter Joseph Burns
1 hr ·

Check my submission public record sent to dumbo wasted space government Select Committee and Law Commission Report 82 March 2003 called “Dispute Resolution In Family Court.” I got a free book from the filth with my name printed in the list of submitters. I used it as toilet paper. I think my submission was 20 pages long. It was written and edited by an extremely intelligent lady friend of mine and should of have changed New Zealand Family Law. Sadly it did not, so I became Batman. RIP mum the injustice killed you!!! RIP innocent fathers killed by the cruel Family Court. Justice is coming (MUM) you sadist evil pricks ! Hey Andrew Little just look into the Burns V Crown case. End of story. Rot in hell Family Court!~~!! So the truth means nothing . What about JUSTICE for my 4 New Zealand born children eh judge!? If I was a muslim it wouldn’t have happened eh Hellen Klark?
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April 18, 2018 6:14pm
- Swifty
  
  Thanks Dad, I prefer though that you would refer to her as the Klarkenfuhrer.
  
  Much obliged.
  
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  April 18, 2018 6:39pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Batman?
  
  Pretty damn sure Bruce Wayne doesn’t sell shoes but the tight leather outfits sounds a lot like your hagley park attire according to Nostra.
  
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  April 18, 2018 6:46pm
  - Swifty
    
    I’ve heard the same.
    
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    April 18, 2018 6:51pm
    - stigie
      
      Same here but heard the tight leather outfits were crutchless..?
      
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      April 18, 2018 7:50pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        Apparently, if you want to impress the guys at Hagley Park, here’s what you need: Label loved by Gigi Hadid unveils $800 crotchless jeans
        
        The “detachable button down pants” consist of nothing more than two denim trouser legs attached to a waist belt by suspenders, leaving the bottom completely exposed.
        
        If you can’t afford the asking price, just ask Penny to set up a GiveaLittle page for you!
        
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        April 18, 2018 8:39pm
      - dad4justice
        
        Fuck off wimp stigfly.
        
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        April 18, 2018 9:33pm
- dad4justice
  
  So Nostra you know why that spineless creep John Key and that jellyfish Bill English were puppet Batman and Robin dust collecting filth at the bar across the road from the Beehive?
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:30pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    I’m not sure what you’re referring to, Dad. Could you be more specific?
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:37pm
Andrei

Holy fuck I’d rather spend the evening listening to fingernails scratching blackboards…
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April 18, 2018 6:50pm
- Swifty
  
  Something to avoid…..
  
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  April 18, 2018 6:59pm
- mikewasmild
  
  Thanks for the link, Andrei. Much appreciated.
  
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  April 18, 2018 7:14pm
Manolo

No quarter is given:
https://apnews.com/bfb5ad674cec4f90b75b5f790d30eb89/As-GOP-balks,-McConnell-shuts-down-bill-to-protect-Mueller

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday thwarted a bipartisan effort to protect special counsel Robert Mueller’s job, saying he will not hold a floor vote on the legislation even if it is approved next week in the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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April 18, 2018 7:13pm
- mikewasmild
  
  I doubt that there is any need, now, for specific legislation to protect the special prosecutor. Especially now that parts of the linked investigations are being handled by other US Attorneys. The process is too complex and too embedded in the fabric of the institutions that uphold due process for the president to kill by decree, much as he might wish to.
  
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  April 18, 2018 7:17pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Anyone want to play linguistic analysis tonight?

I can’t figure out if the PM was being vey cunning or just pretentious when being interviewed about the recent airstrike on Syria.

” we utterly accept the use of alternative means to address what has to be challenged” …

What did she mean by employing that weaselly adverb utterly?
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April 18, 2018 7:37pm
- nasska
  
  The socialists use “utterly” accept instead of just saying accept because it gives their pea brains a nano second’s worth of time to think up some squirrel argument to deflect from the fact that they know fuck all about what they’re talking about. The airhead has made an art form of the tactic.
  
  Then there’s always the possibility that the waffle will render the audience comatose before they get around to asking about something else the PM doesn’t want to “discuss”.
  
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  April 18, 2018 7:48pm
- Kimbo
  
  What did she mean by that weaselly adverb utterly?
  
  Ahem! I believe I can be of assistance. To be exact, it is an emphatic adverb, and is acting as a shill, rhetorical glitter in which to roll her unpolishable turd of an idea that Ardern is a key player in the Syrian crisis and her views matter, to deceive the gullible and easily-manipulated.
  
  Or you can call it “Kimbo’s law” for short. ?
  
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  April 18, 2018 7:55pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Well, you must take credit for us all being able to identify such glaring adverbial signals.
    
    However, is it possible that our Comms-qualified PM had chosen this word utterly wisely and was signaling her distaste for the bombing by employing an adverb that often has negative associations?
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:15pm
    - Kimbo
      
      So now you are digging down to the virtue signalling of her purported pure motives and compassionate emotional disposition. As per my post below, Kimbo’s law* still applies.
      
      * “in blogworld the validity of an argument (which includes communicating a likely insincere sentiment ?) is in inverse proportion to the use of emphatic adverbs”.
      
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      April 18, 2018 8:19pm
      - Brigitte
        
        There is also the possibility that she is joining a rather large group of politicians that make up their own words. In this case she might “utterly accept” but not “writingly accept”.
        
        Perhaps I should get my hat and see myself out. Or better still, pour myself another glass as this one seems to be empty.
        
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        April 18, 2018 8:40pm
- Kimbo
  
  Bob Jones made the poin about 40 years ago that those he considered political lightweights such as Warren Freer and Martyn Finlay used to throw “fundamental” into their pronoucements- “addressing fundamental concerns”, “solving fundamental problems”, “making fundamental change” – to make it sound like they had gravitas
  
  …when in reality they were talking shit. Ardern’s “uttterly” is a play to deceive in a similar was concerning her analysis and intentions. I’m guessing it was accompanied by Cindy’s ?face, maybe even ?face, not ?face.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:15pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Or a Shane jones ?‍♂️ face?
    
    I think ? this the best emoji for dear leader ?‍♀️
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:23pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Ok, this thread is now pregnant with hours of potential fun! How about: ?
      
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      April 18, 2018 8:27pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Yeah, or ?
        
        Perhaps ?
        
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        April 18, 2018 8:28pm
      - Kimbo
        
        That was a bit aggressive straight out of the blocks, maybe even mean-girl nasty. How about: ? when she was compared to Trump?
        
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        April 18, 2018 8:32pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        I’m mean girl nasty? Your the one with preggers jokes?
        
        ??
        
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        April 18, 2018 8:46pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Be fair. Her morning ? is probably over.
        
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        April 18, 2018 8:53pm
  - mikewasmild
    
    “Obviously it’s a parent’s responsibility to feed their children. What more fundamental parenting role could there be?”
    John Key, 2007
    
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    April 18, 2018 9:09pm
    - Kimbo
      
      You missed the emphatic adverb, “obviously” at the commencement of that effort. But to be fair, at least he didn’t introduce it with the standard John Keyism, “At the end of the day…”. ?
      
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      April 18, 2018 9:15pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Nothing apparently Maggie. Cindy stated that the use of “utterly” did not strengthen her use of the word “accept”. Why bloody add utterly then!? She is so enamoured with her ability to spin that she cannot help herself.
  
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  April 18, 2018 8:26pm
  - nasska
    
    Every sentence she utters is public relations #101 crap.
    
    No warmth, no sincerity, no attempt at connection…..just blather.
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:32pm
  - stigie
    
    Is this “utterly” economic vandalism..?
    
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Dai29_lVAAAvM4P.jpg
    
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    April 18, 2018 8:32pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I could run that photo as my screensaver…..
      
      na! stick with my kiddiewinkles.
      
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      April 18, 2018 8:37pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      That photo is one for the election billboards eh Shane. ?
      
      Two more when you are ready to complete the set Shane, a photo with your hands over your ears for hear no evil, and a photo with your hand over your mouth for speak no evil.
      
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      April 18, 2018 8:56pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        as long as there is no photo with hands around…
        
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        April 19, 2018 8:23am
  - Piniwi
    
    @waikatogirl explaining is loosing as we have been told but perhaps with so much exposure the local media are also sick of “absolutely”. Like she can “absolutely” be a PM and a mother since so many other woman can multi-task. After watching her fail as a PM we shudder to think of any child being reared by a failure as a mother too due to “multi-tasking”. That term has often been the catch phase that preceded failures happening in pairs or even sometimes more when all the time we thought Diamonds were girls best friend.
    The upside side is even knowing it is going to cost us plenty it is all turning out to be a very expensive laugh a minute with the budget yet to come. That too will hurt but we can expect to see a lot of toys being thrown around the chamber as so many Minsters get to know how little they have to spend.
    
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    April 19, 2018 4:05am
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      You think cabinet ministers don’t already know what they are getting in the budget?
      
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      April 19, 2018 5:29am
- Nookin
  
  She used “utterly”to focus attention on the emphasis and divert attention from ”accept”.
  
  By using “accept”,she is saying that this issue is nothing really to do with NZ and we neither support nor oppose. Under her breathe, she is muttering “besides which there is not a damn thing we can do about it, especially when I want to raise trade deals.”
  
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  April 18, 2018 9:26pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Perhaps Nookin the Commie Chick is in for a shock when she gets back as we watch her team running amuck. Commies and Marxists to oversee the overseer of SIS and GSCB must pose the question about what that woman really does. The team seem utterly stuffed as in desperation Twyford is sending Jones to Australia to chase around for possible PPP investors for Auckland trams and train sets. Just after her Captains call with the message that NZ is now a high risk/low return place to invest. The Gang Green have their hand picked warmist squad to look into extorting money from the farming community. At least with the potential to shrink our traditional agricultural and farm exports will fit well with the French farmers. Curran thinks she has been hacked on Facebook since nobody wants her as a friend. The drip feeding of underfunding has just hit another snag as yet another attempt has back fired with 140,000 houses needing work. This is even before the latest major scandal has been “found” by the Media part since they are under orders to keep trying to make the Commie Chick look good. After the German Chancellor met one stuffed Kiwi and got another from China to put on her pillow. Be careful not to tell the British PM the latest price of butter which could save the need for any quota level being set. They will be in the queue after the TPP members get their share and it may soon be back to 12 members when the USA joins in. But make the most of a little time out as the team are going gang busters under old Kelvins guidance as the little boat goes around in circles. What a wonderful display of inclusiveness as everybody seems to be paddling in their own direction.
    
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    April 19, 2018 3:40am
Jack5

A Friday night read …

The Mr Big of endangered-animal trading operates from a Chinese gambling enclave in Laos.

Tiger breeding farms, rhinos for sale as well as their tusks, elephant skin, ivory … and allegedly linked to a big drugs, child and adult prostitution operation.

A report from the South China Morning Post:

http://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/2141464/mr-big-wildlife-trafficking-could-elusive-laos
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April 18, 2018 9:25pm
Monique Watson

Re Southwest. And the incident that saw a passenger being ripped from a seat and who didn’t survive.

Of course it was metal fatigue. They hadn’t checked the integrity of the Birds for a while. I’d a thunk it would be a landing gear failure but Heck. Drama beats prediction most times.
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April 19, 2018 4:27am
Monique Watson

And that chick pilot? A bloody good bastard. If you see the footage it’s amazing she got the plane down intact after the blades broke.
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April 19, 2018 4:29am
softail 1450

The left wing msm are creaming themselves about our fashion conscious world traveller jacinda ardern meeting with,
Trudeau
may
macron
charles
camilla
merkel,etc etc
these leaders are at their lowest numbers in public opinion polls in history and jacindas poll numbers are on the fall as well.
so who are our MSM and ardern badmouthing, oh yes president trump the only leader in the western world who’s numbers are actually going up FFS.
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