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NZpatriot

Thanks for running an awesome blog DPF.
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April 17, 2018 8:01am
- dubya
  
  Miken/was/mild disagrees
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:06am
Monique Watson

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5707885/florida-teacher-stephanie-peterson-sex-underage-boy-car-barn/

Why would you have sex in a barn? Prickles up yer arse and it’s most unbecoming rolling off a haybale with your mick in the air. I don’t necessarily speak from experience.
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April 17, 2018 8:03am
- holysheet
  
  Yeh pull the other one.
  Clover hay is softer. Just saying….
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:07am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Yeah, I’d actually heard clover and alfalfa make for softer landings and provide essential nutrients into the ground for next year’s harvest season.
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:27am
  - RF
    
    Don’t recommend the beach… too sandy.
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:29am
    - Ed Snack
      
      And do not, repeat do NOT, try it with as partner who it turns out is rather allergic to grass pollen. Passing this on from “a friend”.
      
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      April 17, 2018 12:19pm
- cmm
  
  I hope you didn’t disturb a nest full of mice Monique.
  
  Not to mention finding they forgot to spray for thistles.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:39am
  - Monique Watson
    
    No mice were harmed in the making. However I did get a truckload of mozzie bites. First time I ever dosed up on antihistamines. Thanks, Nana. Had quite a nice sleep and farked off to get myself on the pill the next day.
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:48am
- MH
  
  someone needs to be baled out.
  
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  April 17, 2018 11:26am
- softail 1450
  
  MW,poor mick was he hurt?
  
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  April 17, 2018 4:47pm
holysheet

My mate was depressed & suicidal so I pushed him in front of a steam train.
He was chuffed to bits.
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April 17, 2018 8:05am
- MH
  
  before he died I held him in great esteem.
  
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  April 17, 2018 11:29am
  - Inandout
    
    You are just a bogeyman.
    
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    April 17, 2018 3:35pm
Captain Mainwaring

So Megan Woods is launching an enquiry (yes, another enquiry) as to why electricity prices have gone up 50% since 2000. When she finds out that virtually all the increase happened under the previous Labour Government and power prices have barely changed since 2009 it might just blow up in her fat face.
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April 17, 2018 8:05am
- Southern Raider
  
  I think you will find the enquires was mislabelled. She’s actually leading an enquiry into why cake prices have spiked
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:17am
  - holysheet
    
    Why not add in one about the cost of butter?
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:18am
    - RF
      
      Don’t forget her staple diet of pork pies……
      
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      April 17, 2018 8:31am
      - RalphT
        
        I thought Curran was the one who specialised in pork pies?
        
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        April 17, 2018 8:40am
- JIV
  
  coincidentally when renewables became a major player. As usual the Greens have found the most expensive way of generating electricity, where we have to have enough spare capacity when the wind doesnt blow and sun doent shine.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:20am
  - VicParking
    
    When the sun does not shine Twitford will just bend over and part his buttocks. Instant sunshine.
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:43am
    - skyblue
      
      When Robbo bends over it is cloudy with Alf’s wad up the jacksee.
      
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      April 17, 2018 9:24am
    - Fletch
      
      It’s enough to read by…
      
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      April 17, 2018 9:54am
      - skyblue
        
        More like enough to feed him.
        
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        April 17, 2018 1:12pm
  - niggly
    
    @ JIV – Exactly! Talking about retarded LabGreen thinking and unintended consequences, the early 2000’s also saw woodburners needing to be replaced to meet new compliance standards and in some instances open wood fires banned.
    
    Net result, increased demand on the electricity network (further hitting people’s pockets due to the cost of infrastructure upgrades being passed onto the consumer) and low-income earners (and the unemployed) had a reduced source of cheap (or free) heating i.e. firewood (which coincidentally saw an increase in health-related issues and damp homes, as a dry-heat source was largely phased out. Especially in Flats).
    
    Retarded LabGreens thinking will cause more mayhem and unintended consequences for low-income earners and the unemployed as energy and petrol prices will increase due to their monumental stupidity in banning further oil and gas exploration as Kiwi’s then need to import more oil and gas at the mercy of increasing prices due to international events. All the meanwhile NOT cutting NZ’s greenhouse emissions – the very reason why the Orwellian LabGreens are supposedly doing this.
    
    It sure does take a special sort of stupid to become a virtue-signalling, rick-prick Labour-Green MP, oblivious to the price being paid by the “people” just to make the Labour-Green MP feel so smug and superior, as they shit upon NZ’s sovereignty in order to blindly follow overseas eco-socialism trends!
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:58am
- peterwn
  
  I did a back of envelope calculation a few years ago and found that when taking Consumer Price Index into account, electricity prices have increased in real terms by 20% from the mid 1960’s (when electricity prices were at their historic lowest) to the present. A big reason for this increase is available cheap hydro has been exploited and new generation whether wind or coal/gas is more expensive to build/run than the big hydro schemes of the past (these still are the backbone of NZ’s electricity supply and now also serve a valuable backing function to wind power).
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:26am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Ah, those were the days when if the need for electricity was there a hydro dam could be built to feed the grid so they just got on and built it. How would we be doing without the 8 dams on the Waikato River? The massive Clyde dam just snuck in before the GangGreens and the RMA made it all too difficult. No wonder the price of electricity is higher than it used to be. See if you can work that one out Megan Woods.
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:41am
  - alex Masterley
    
    Can you fish out the envelope and send it to Ms woods.
    Job done!
    And a bill of course for your time.
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:50am
    - Humble Capitalist
      
      at the same rate that we are paying Palmer for his enquiry
      
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      April 17, 2018 10:59am
    - peterwn
      
      I have re-done the calculation. CPI between 1964 (when power prices were at ‘real’ lowest) and 2017 increased almost 20 times. Electricity was about a cent a unit then, so the inflation adjusted cost would be 20 cents a unit now. Electricity costs about 25 cents/unit now meaning a 25% increase in real terms over the years. This would vary depending on particular tariffs etc but would be no more than 30 or so %.
      
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      April 17, 2018 9:54pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  50% over 18 years is 2.3% per annum. Over the same period the CPI has been around 2.7%.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:46am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    So, what you’re saying is that Ms Woods should stick to pies and lies, not thinking?
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:56am
- mandk
  
  Electricity prices for households increased by around 65% under 1999-2008 Labour and by around 30% under 2008-2017 National.
  
  Why do socialists hate poor people so much?
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:53am
- G152
  
  Hey, no fair extracting the urine from lardo.
  She’s the biggest thing in parliament
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:11am
  - fernglas
    
    I don’t object to you criticising her politics, competence or intelligence, as all those are fair game in a politician. But criticising any person, male or female, on the basis of their size is not just irrelevant but shows a meanness of spirit that undermines any validity your comments may have.
    
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    April 17, 2018 9:18am
    - MH
      
      Jacinder and molar-testation or tummy tucks ?
      
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      April 17, 2018 1:09pm
    - BeaB
      
      Nah. It brightens up the day.
      
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      April 17, 2018 2:21pm
- Komata
  
  Captain
  
  But, as we already know, she WON’T find that that was the case; it doesn’t fit the ‘we good, they bad’ narrrative.
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:21am
- KiWombat
  
  She’s a real airhead. Everything has gone up 50% in 18 years except houses. Try 500% !
  
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  April 17, 2018 4:39pm
mjw

The problem there was that prices were allowed to escalate to international norms before incomes had done so. The real issue was not prices, per se, but prices in terms of purchasing power parity. Wonder if they’ll look at that.

But also, before you blame the previous Labour government, it was actually National and Max Bradford for who set it all in place. Just saying, for the record.
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April 17, 2018 8:12am
- Paulus
  
  mjw
  
  Yawn !!!
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:33am
- kowtow
  
  “The problem there was that prices were allowed to escalate to international norms before incomes had done so.”
  
  What the fuck is that about ?
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:18am
- peterwn
  
  As I said previously, electricity prices increased by 20% in real terms since the mid 1960’s. And electricity 100 years ago in Wellington (before Mangahao Power Station was built by the government) was vastly more expensive in real terms than today.
  
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  April 17, 2018 6:29pm
Monique Watson

That Woods is just another time-wasting clock-puncher. Just can’t wait to see if she makes as big a dickhead of herself as Curran. And what the threshold is for being fired. Not holding my breath it will be any time in the next term or two.
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April 17, 2018 8:13am
- Paulus
  
  Woods PhD – please update us as to how many you and Annette King – looks like a Dame (pantomime of course)of the 2500 Claims you have settled since two months ago you said that you would do it and report progress.
  I am hearing of a man whom is going to get slim by a hunger strike starting today – have you not settled his claim with Southern Response and Government (Taxpayer owned) Insurer.
  WTF are you doing ?
  Please give us an update – not conversations, but settlements with Taxpayers money.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:30am
Southern Raider

Does anyone know who our acting Prime Minister is at the moment?
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April 17, 2018 8:15am
- holysheet
  
  Witless protection has admitted they have lost Kelvin. He escaped with the connivance of Cindy with instructions to see little and say even less.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:21am
  - Lance
    
    Kelvin was making a dick of himself on the AM show this morning.
    The kindest thing to say would be that he appeared to be a possum in headlines
    
    (Check it out… two moons !)
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:26am
- sooty
  
  Nobody. They are all in the whitless protection program.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:22am
- ldypen
  
  Jacinda is the “acting” PM
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:45am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  It’s Grob. Same as it was before Jacinda left NZ.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:48am
wiseowl

I have always been a fan of Trump but he has been done by those around him who want to pursue the wrong course.Bolton has tunnel vision and Mattis is dithering.
The alleged gas attack in Syria was a great setup and now Macron, May and Trump have created a terrible situation where from now on any rebel group or terrorist group that want to wreak havoc just have to set a scene and cry ‘gas attack’ and Haleys’ locked and loaded comment to the UN will see more unecessary attacks.No justification.
The west have gone mad.
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April 17, 2018 8:16am
- Monique Watson
  
  Biggest problem’s are that Corbyn chickened out, Boris Johnson attacked him verbally and then turned around and invited Putin onto the court. Theresa May, the second guessing ground-squirrel took it to the Commons for approval and no fucking surprise there there was no approval forthcoming. Jesus, it’s turned into a clusterfuck over the last forty-eight hours. Just glad we have three battleships in the Red Sea. As that cheeky cunt Putin is hanging out to put a dent in trans-Atlantic infrastructure.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:52am
- Scott
  
  No, Trump did the right thing. He enforced well accepted historical norms against the use of chemical weapons (dating back to WW1). He showed that when he draws a red line he actually follows it up with action. This enhances the credibility and respect of the USA, which had been eroded under Obama.
  
  He also pursued limited goals of deterrence. He isn’t pursuing regime change. He didn’t bomb the Russians. Its all good.
  
  Even CNN agrees with him on this. That’s why they’ve quickly moved onto Stormy Daniels. CNN cannot abide agreeing with Trump on anything!
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:07am
  - stephieboy
    
    Scott, like his predecessors the attacks in Syria were limited in scope and range ( surprising after all Trump’s bombast and rhetoric ) and no boots on the ground.
    
    CNN’s position is no different to the actions taken by the former President and that includes not allowing the US to get bogged down in yet another 2003 type quagmire.
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:15am
    - Scott
      
      The only difference stephieboy in CNNs position is that with Trump they immediately move on to continuing with their campaign to bring down the duly elected president of the United States. With Obama they would quickly move onto softball interviews, “how do you cope with constant adulation?”. And then they would move onto covering up all his scandals – fast and furious, Benghazi, the IRS targeting conservatives, the Iran deal etc etc etc.
      
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      April 17, 2018 10:27am
      - axeman
        
        Yeah like ‘Mr President, what is your favourite color/colour?’
        
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        April 18, 2018 2:17am
Hugh Pavletich

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… NEW ZEALAND GOVERNMENT EXPLAINS FOCUS AND COMMITMENT TO SOUND INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING …

Mondays fresh focus and commitment to sound infrastructure financing …

The Minister of Transport Phil Twyford says there is a “great deal of interest” from private capital providers when it comes to investing in New Zealand’s transport infrastructure – he is welcoming their interest | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/business/93209/minister-transport-phil-twyford-says-there-%E2%80%9Cgreat-deal-interest%E2%80%9D-private-capital

… following months of confusion and Friday’s interview of Housing & Transport Minister Phil Twyford by Newstalk ZB Christchurch Chris Lynch …

https://www.facebook.com/chrislynchzb/videos/1768362633223469/

… and …

Labour drop 5% in ONCB poll | Kiwiblog

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/04/labour_drop_5_in_oncb_poll.html

The latest One News Colmar Brunton poll has Labour dropping 5%, and behind National.

It is interesting to compare how this Government is doing compared to the previous one at the same time. How does April 2017 and April 2009 compare poll wise. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Access yesterdays posts …

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/04/general_debate_16_april_2018-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-2188441
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April 17, 2018 8:17am
- Swifty
  
  Flopped it out early today Hugh?
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:29am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “Access yesterdays posts …”
  
  If I wanted to do that I would have done it yesterday.
  What a wanker!
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:44am
- Nostradamus
  
  According to the Oxford English Dictionary:
  
  Hughgasm:
  [Hugh-gaz-uh m]
  
  noun
  1. the physical and emotional sensation experienced at the peak of sexual excitation, usually resulting from stimulation of the sexual organ and usually accompanied in the male by ejaculation.
  2. an instance of experiencing this.
  3. intense or unrestrained excitement.
  4. an instance or occurrence of such excitement.
  5. an overwhelming physical and emotional sensation resulting from copying-and-pasting the same material on Kiwiblog day after day and seeing “Hidden due to low comment rating”.
  
  verb (used without object)
  6. to have a Hughgasm.
  
  The things you learn on Kiwiblog 🙂
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:54am
  - stigie
    
    “intense or unrestrained excitement”
    
    Well, this of course can happen when you frequent Hagley Park on a regular basis Nostra..?
    
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    April 17, 2018 9:00am
    - Nostradamus
      
      I’d need our resident expert(s) to assist us with that one, Stigie!
      
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      April 17, 2018 9:03am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
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        As Government signals big light rail spend, public transport concerns grow in US … Michael Daly … Stuff / Fairfax New Zealand
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/102928780/as-government-signals-big-light-rail-spend-public-transport-concerns-grow-in-us
        
        As the Government signals it wants to spend billions on light rail in Auckland and billions less on major roading projects in the decade ahead, worries about the future of public transport are growing in the US.
        
        Those concerns were summed up by a story in The Washington Post last month, headlined Falling transit ridership poses an ’emergency’ for cities, experts fear.
        
        The article was based on a report from New York-based public transport advocacy group TransitCenter, using data from the US Department of Transportation’s National Transit Database.
        
        “Researchers concluded factors such as lower fuel costs, increased teleworking, higher car ownership and the rise of alternatives such as Uber and Lyft are pulling people off trains and buses at record levels,” the article said. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        Sydney light rail contractor Acciona suing NSW Government; further delays to construction likely – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
        
        http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-07/light-rail-contractor-sues-nsw-government/9629948
        
        The firm building Sydney’s light rail is taking the NSW Government to court, claiming it is owed more than $1 billion extra, prompting Labor to call the project a “total embarrassment” for Premier Gladys Berejiklian …
        
        … But the Opposition said the 24-kilometre line from the CBD to the eastern suburbs could now become the world’s most costly light rail project.
        
        “It started at $1.6 billion, now it’s up to $3 billion perhaps,” Opposition Leader Luke Foley said.
        
        “If the Government had done its homework there would be no dispute.”
        
        Deputy NSW Labor Leader and Opposition spokesman for planning and infrastructure Michael Daley said this was the worst project he has seen in his 20 years of public life. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        … Are New Zealand politicians better project managers ? … really ? ….
        
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        April 17, 2018 9:25am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Australian banksters up there with world’s worst – MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/04/australian-banksters-worlds-worst/
        
        Let’s recall the revelations of the Banking Royal Commission so far, via UBS:
        
        Fraud and Bribery
        
        Counsel Assisting, Ms Rowena Orr, QC: “I want to put to you is that NAB knows, & you know, that there were unsuitable loans, there was false documentation, there was dishonest application of customers’ signatures on consent forms & there was the misstatement of some loans in loan documentation. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        April 17, 2018 10:34am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
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    … NEW ZEALAND: HOUSING MINISTER PHIL TWYFORD’S UNNECESSARY AND DAMAGING CONFUSION …
    
    … FOCUS ON THE FRINGES … AND THE REST WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF …
    
    … Do watch IN FULL this superb interview of New Zealand Housing Minister Phil Twyford by Newstalk ZB Christchurch’s Chris Lynch yesterday (Friday) … where still … sadly … the Minister is failing to FOCUS ON THE FRINGES … so ALL FORMS of development become increasingly affordable … ESSENTIAL VIEWING …
    
    https://www.facebook.com/chrislynchzb/videos/1768362633223469/
    
    … National Opposition Housing Spokesperson Judith Collins outlines what Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern REALLY THINKS of the Unitec development debacle …
    
    Governments backflipping worthy of gold – Judith Collins – NZ National Party
    
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1804/S00123/government-back-flipping-worthy-of-gold.htm
    
    The Prime Minister and her Housing Minister have been left red-faced and scrambling to explain critical statements Ms Ardern made when in Opposition about plans to build thousands of houses on the Unitec Site in Auckland.
    
    “When reminded of Jacinda Ardern’s statements last year criticising the suitability of the Unitec Site for the then planned 2,600 dwellings, Phil Twyford could not address the concerns raised by his boss. … read more via hyperlink above …
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    … while the governments dreadful dense development drivel gets slammed … left, right and centre … led by the Ministers own officials …
    
    MBIE says Kiwibuild may be unaffordable for buyers | Kiwiblog
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/mbie_says_kiwibuild_may_be_unaffordable_for_buyers.html
    
    KiwiBuild – otherwise known as “pulling numbers out of your arse” | Infometrics
    
    http://www.infometrics.co.nz/kiwibuild-otherwise-known-pulling-numbers-arse/
    
    Rodney Dickens says section prices are the key to solving the housing affordability problem, not higher density around transport hubs. He warns against force-feeding in areas that won’t deliver the intended outcome … Interest Co NZ
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/92556/rodney-dickens-says-section-prices-are-key-solving-housing-affordability-problem-not
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    April 17, 2018 9:30am
    - waripori
      
      I know Hugh posts long and annoying stuff some times but it may not be a bad idea to at least glance at what he has contributed before downticking. This piece seems to be the most reasoned excoriation of Kiwibuild I have seen and includes some realy embarrassing comments from Jacinda about high density development at Unitec. What would all the National voters on here object to it?
      
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      April 17, 2018 11:22am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  The highest sales rate was for properties where the auction was on site, while less than a quarter were sold at the big North Shore auctions | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93216/highest-sales-rate-was-properties-where-auction-was-site-while-less-quarter-were-sold
  
  Barfoot & Thompson achieved sales on almost a third of the properties the agency scheduled for sale by auction last week, with 167 advertised to go under the hammer and sales achieved on 53 of them.
  
  That gave an overall sales clearance rate of 32%, which probably wasn’t bad considering what the weather was like and the disruptions it caused. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:08am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Christ, you’re no better than a dog dragging its arse across the carpet.
    
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    April 17, 2018 9:34am
    - stephieboy
      
      Rich Prick, the “sane” voice of alt-right unreason and irrationalism!
      
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      April 17, 2018 2:44pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Value of London flats slashed by Grenfell-style cladding | Society | The Guardian
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/16/value-of-london-flats-slashed-by-grenfell-style-cladding
  
  A homeowner in a housing complex in London with Grenfell-type cladding has been told the value of her £475,000 home has collapsed and is now just £50,000.
  
  Galliard Homes, the developer of the 11-block complex in New Capital Quay in south-east London, is facing a £30m-£40m bill to replace the cladding and is locked in a legal dispute over who should pay.
  
  The dispute, which could take years to resolve, has left Cecile Langevin, 32, and potentially thousands of others up and down the country, with an unsellable flat.
  
  “It is like someone has taken away our life choices, our freedom,” she said. “And nobody is doing anything about it,” she added, in tears … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  … relearning history the hard way …
  
  Inquiry. The Great British Housing Disaster (Adam Curtis, 1984) – YouTube
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5VorymiL4
  
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  April 17, 2018 11:01am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  NEW ZEALAND: Westpac report says the good times in the residential property market will “end very soon” | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93237/westpac-report-says-good-times-residential-property-market-will-end-very-soon
  
  The housing market is facing a looming slowdown, according to Westpac’s chief economist Dominick Stephens.
  
  In a Home Truths report on the housing market Stephens said although the market was positive for now, it will soon slow.
  
  “In our view the good times for the market are going to end very soon,” he said … read more via hyperlink above
  
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  April 17, 2018 12:09pm
  - starboard
    
    You must be so much fun at parties Hugh
    
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    April 17, 2018 4:26pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Starboard:
      
      I don’t think Hugh gets invited to parties!
      
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      April 17, 2018 4:49pm
JIV

If 44% of voters still think this incompetent party is still fit to govern, then we are truly lost as a country. How can so many naive idiots be allowed to vote?
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April 17, 2018 8:18am
- MCos
  
  People have been saying that since the ancient Greeks invented democracy.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:23am
- stigie
  
  Jacinta is just lovely don’t you know, she speaks what i want to hear and she’s going to have a baby very soon, awww how lovely..?
  Give me fucking strength someone !~
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:51am
- Random T Person
  
  To be fair, our worldview is not the only one. You can’t simply dismiss people who see things differently as ‘idiots’.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:58am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  In nine years, National did nothing to convince voters that personal responsibility is a better solution than tax and spend. Now we’re just quibbling over the details.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:38am
Paulus

Hallelujah – Peace in our Time in Europe.
Calamity Cindy has cracked the Macron factor and he, as one of only 26 nations, will support a discussion on a Free Trade Agreement between the EC and New Zealand.
Well done Cindy.
As expected Macron used an interpreter as of French diplomacy insists, albeit his English language is perfect, having been partially educated and the US and the UK.
I am sure that his English is better than Cindy’s.
In addition I would have expected that despite his opinion polls trending far down below Cindy’s current dropping one – but he has been in longer, and is almost down to Trudeau’s level, that Macron had hoped that one hour was enough in case she decided to have her baby in France which would add to the Immigration problem.
What next – Merkel will be different, and it is she who will also agree to a conversation, hoping that Cindy will go away quickly – she has other fish to fry currently and not listen to the Commie Chic, albeit she comes from a one time Communist Country.
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April 17, 2018 8:24am
- waikatogirl
  
  “Calamity Cindy has cracked the Macron factor and he, as one of only 26 nations, will support a discussion on a Free Trade Agreement between the EC and New Zealand.
  Well done Cindy.”
  
  Get it right Paulus, it is a “Progressive” Free Trade Agreement. ?
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:48am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Comprehensive and “Progressive” TPPA
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:59am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    “Progressive” in French means “Not allowing the import of competitive high quality agricultural products that might inconvenience French farmers”. France is not, and never will be, a friend to New Zealand, or any other agricultural exporter, on trade.
    
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    April 17, 2018 9:29am
    - waikatogirl
      
      The politicians say it will be fine but wait till the French farmers blockade the roads of Paris with their tractors protesting the “comprehensive and progressive” TPPA importing NZ agricultural products.
      
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      April 17, 2018 9:43am
- niggly
  
  Hang on a minute, we only have Jacinda’s word that France “supports” a FTA with the EU and NZ! 😉
  
  The French Ministry for Europe and Foreign Affairs twitter feed doesn’t mention anything specific in its 2 posts about NZ (it only mentions the Pacific)!
  https://twitter.com/francediplo_EN/status/985820930957041664
  
  Although one intriguing post thanks Jacinda for “for having chosen France to prepare for the future.” ….. Woah! What has Jacinda sold us out on now, to further her own ambitions?!!! French energy?? Chardonnay???
  https://twitter.com/francediplo_EN/status/985869640927727616
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:13am
- alloytoo
  
  Macron used Cindy as a squirrel, nothing more, nothing less.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:17am
- backster
  
  I think the main topic Miss Arderne will discuss with Merkle is what her strategy should be to absorb thousands more Moslem refugees into New Zealand.
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:13am
Monique Watson

Mac’s won’t go the whole way as he has to keep onside with the farmers. Shoot if you think the U.S.A has a protected industry, it’s nothing like the blanket the Frogs have set up to protect theirs.
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April 17, 2018 8:32am
PaulP

Anyone know where Winston is?

On NewstalkZB this morning Kelvin Davis was introduced as the acting PM since Jacinda is overseas. Is Winston with her?

Since he is deputy PM I assumed he’d be our “dear leader” while Jacinda is overseas but he has been on radio silence.
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April 17, 2018 8:34am
- VicParking
  
  I understand he went to Europe and straight to the conference. Let’s hope he’s in a hospice in Switzerland.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:52am
- KKKKatee
  
  Kelvin will be praying like hell that he won’t make any balls ups. I imagine he would need to be on anti-anxiety medication as a back-up. ‘Cos he knows we’re watching him……
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:03am
Maggy Wassilieff

He’s in Europe, Foreign Affairing
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April 17, 2018 8:52am
- KKKKatee
  
  Too old and past it for anyone who might be considering having an affair with him…..
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:04am
DifferentPerspective

Enemies of the state get access to NZ Security and Intelligence services now

Another good catch by WOBH.

I predicted yesterday there is much more dishonesty and well-poisoning going to happen by Labour as they pursue the destruction of capitalism in NZ.

I thought it would be limited to just economic sabotage, I never thought for a second that the evil would extend to compromising NZ’s security services by letting liars, crooks, cheats and terrorist advocates get access to NZ’s security networks!

The NZ Inspector-General of Security and Intelligence (IGIS) announced the membership of her IGIS Reference Group. It’s heavily populated by extreme left-wingers!

Fake news exponents, hackers and terrorist sympathisers permeate the group. Deborah Manning, Nicky Hagar, David Fisher are the star members among a bunch of academia left-wing activists and a few unthreatening anonymous nobodies. Enemies of the state with access to security info – it would be interesting to know what vetting these numpties were put through (if any at all).

Talk about putting the foxes in the henhouse!

I guess NZ’s Five Eyes intelligence info will rapidly dry up (or maybe this is what the desired outcome was, no way for Jacinda to identify Russian spies if there is no intel!).
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April 17, 2018 8:54am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  What better way to feed them false information.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:00am
  - niggly
    
    Or better still, explain to them what they are fighting (state sponsored threats including cyber-attacks, information theft, trafficking and attempts to undermine Western democracy).
    
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    April 17, 2018 9:24am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  I think its actually a really smart move – friends close, enemies closer. Hagar can now not complain and also I suspect, write about, what he hears and sees. And I dont buy into the statement that the rest of that group are extreme left wingers, thats demonstrable rubbish.
  
  Potentially a very effective way of making Hagar part of the establishment he is so ready to criticise, and a wonderful way to shut him down.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:46am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I think its actually a really smart move
    
    “Better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside pissing in”
    -Lyndon B. Johnson
    
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    April 17, 2018 9:57am
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      Thanks Maggy, knew someone way smarter than me would have said something at some stage 😀
      
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      April 17, 2018 10:30am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        It seems to be a quote about keeping J.Edgar Hoover on as Head of FBI… and reported in the NY Times.
        
        It’s a quote one of my bosses liked to employ.
        
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        April 17, 2018 10:48am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    If you can’t beat them, join them in, and then beat them.
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:23am
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      Odakyu, slightly off topic, but you reminded me of a moment from last week…
      
      The Blond and I were on a car ferry, she in her car, me in one of mine, both waiting to be signaled to drive off. I had my sons with me in the car. Blond sends me a txt, her normal competitive self – “Im so going to beat you off”
      
      My eldest, on me asking him to do so, reads out the message, as we sit next to the Blond in her car, as he was closest to my phone. We pause for a moment, and then all three of us burst out laughing. The Blond realises what she has said, and joins in. Guys working the vehicle deck that day must have thought were we all stoned 🙂
      
      Sorry, as you were, it just tickled my fancy that one
      
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      April 17, 2018 10:29am
Monique Watson

In hospital. Hopefully in not feckin’ Middlemore as that will do his lungs more harm and we’ll look the tits if Cinders has her baby unexpectedly (it won’t happen) and we don’t have a Dep ready. Crikey. Helen used to have such a firm hand on the tiller but this Government has no contingency and it could go to the wall pretty fast.
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April 17, 2018 8:57am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  It will be interesting to see if the Prime Minister gives birth in a public hospital or at a private facility.
  
  People reveal themselves through their deeds, not their words.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:01am
  - SGA
    
    Maybe she will have a home birth just to annoy you 🙂
    
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    April 17, 2018 9:39am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Yes, I had thought about that, but I wanted to keep it simple.
      
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      April 17, 2018 9:45am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    She has already told us that she will be making frequent visits to her obstetrician – to get clearance for flights.
    Her pregnancy will also mean a lot of trips to her obstetrician to get sign-off to fly domestically. She said she intended to fly right into her 40th week – and Air NZ’s rules require medical signoff before every flight from the 36 week mark.
    
    She had not sought an exemption from the rule. “So I’ll be making a lot of trips to the obstetrician.”
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12031872
    
    Most new mums in NZ do not have ready access to obstetricians – damn lucky to get hold of a 1st year midwife.
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:03am
Tauhei Notts

Spare a thought for our cow cocky mates who supply Fonterra.
I note that my local supermarket is specialling butter. Fonterra’ butter is at $9.98 per kilogramme; Westland’s butter is at $12.48 per kilogramme. Fonterra have raved for decades about adding value, and the above figures will show how successful they have been.
I wonder how many millions Westland have to pay their C.E.O. to achieve that status?
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April 17, 2018 9:00am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I suspect that the price of butter (like kumaras) is somewhat inelastic in New Zealand.
  The producers have found that even if they double the price, the sales volume will hardly decline, so they continue the high prices.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:26am
  - waikatogirl
    
    I still buy the Mainland spreadable and the occasional block of butter for baking. We choose to use far butter less on a daily basis so I figure I’ll continue to buy the brands we like no matter the price.
    
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    April 17, 2018 9:50am
jp_1983

Winston is in London for CHOGM,

He as at the Ascot on the weekend in his capacity as racing minister
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April 17, 2018 9:01am
VicParking

Chris Rattue’s Comment “Israel Folau has opened the door, so let’s kick religion out of sport” is crap.
Israel’s comment has nothing to do with sport. It is a comment by a religious man about his religion.
He did not say that gays should not play sport. People should be able to say what they like as long as they dont incourage hatred or violence. We dont have to believe them or listen to them. He did not say that they should be thrown off buildings, dragged behind motor bikes or canned. Chris why dont you come out and rail against these people instead of picking on someone who was ambushed with a loaded question.
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April 17, 2018 9:07am
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  I agree. It’s just bigotry – set up by a senior trader at World Sports Betting was it? Is he a friend of the Qantas CEO? What it comes down to is ‘Let’s kick Christians out of sport’ – or any that take their faith seriously.
  
  I’m sure NZers have never believed they would engage in such obvious persecutory practices; and just as sure that they don’t call it that but justified by their ‘noble consciences’. Just like the German people in WWII. They’re just protecting those ‘poor little gays’.
  
  Like the CEO of Qantas who is both gay and an activist. So while he is expressing his ‘disappointment’ at Israel Folau and doing his bit to get Israel thrown out of sport, is he prepared to stand up and say that Qantas is not prepared to carry any passenger who does not approve of homosexuality?
  
  Not on your life – he undoubtedly has a very ‘convenient’ conscience that only operates when his target is an individual. You could try to justify it by saying that his gender/beliefs having nothing to do with his job – despite the fact that he used his professional position to influence the situation.
  
  On the other hand, Israel Folau’s beliefs have nothing to do with rugby – and he never mixed his beliefs with that sport in any way.
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:34am
- Kimbo
  
  I thought Rattue’s essential point that sports people should not be able to use their time on the field to advertise or use it as leverage for their religion was fair enough.
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12032979
  
  We = Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, atheists and agnostics, whatever ultimately pay their wages, so kindly do what you are paid to do. As a good Calvinist I subscribe to the principle of the Dutch theologian and Prime Minister Abraham Kuyper that Christians should strive so that “every square inch of creation is to be surrendered to lordship of Christ”.
  
  But gesticulating to the heavens after scoring a goal, bowing in the direction of Mecca, or plastering crosses all over your physio taping ain’t what Kuyper had in mind. It is tacky, tedious, shallow, lowest common denominator American revivalism bumper sticker religion that detracts from both religion and, more importantly steals from the punters who just want to watch the sport.
  
  And Folau? If he wants to verbalise those views? Go for it. But as @n entertainer with a public profile, if those views harm the corporate image of his employer, then they have every right to dismiss him.
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:43am
- Kimbo
  
  And if Folau wants to articulate his religious views on his own time, via social media good luck to him. But good luck also to the Aussie Rugby Union who pays his lucrative salary, and facilitate the celebrity off of which he is leveraging to proselytise, if they decide he is harmful to their corporate image. Is a result of the same market forces in which Folau is trying to peddle his religion in the free market place of ideas.
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:52am
- Kimbo
  
  …and don’t give me this rubbish that Folau was set up. He has media training, including in the use of social media. When it suits him, he, like all professional sports people knows what questions to avoid. “What happens to gays?”, has as much potential trouble written all over it as a shock jock asking, “is your coach a dickhead?”, or “have you or your team mates ever balll-tampered before?”. Don’t see sports people like Folau having any problems side stepping those questions quicker and cleaner than any evasion Folau effects on the field. ?
  
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  April 17, 2018 11:03am
  - MH
    
    folautio, something to get your lips around. Any macrons available? Adern has taken the lot in gay Paris.
    
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    April 17, 2018 11:24am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Seriously, what can you discuss in an hour? Have any other ‘representatives’ gotten more?
      
      Why is that deemed to be a win for Jacinda?
      
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      April 17, 2018 12:25pm
Chuck Bird

Tax by stealth.

I see the Green Yank is calling for increasing fines for speeding and driving after drinking. No mention of stoned driving.

Most of us know many speeders are targeted where they are easiest to nab rather at real danger spots.
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April 17, 2018 9:09am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Just be pleased you’re not an over-the-limit “personality” in Britain.
  
  Ant McPartlin fined £86,000 for drink driving
  http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-43786771
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:52am
KKKKatee

Guess what? My keen eye has picked up that the PM has a new pair of boots. Black shiny leather ones. Perhaps the others are past their use by date and have been offloaded to her local Hospice Shop. She is seen wearing them with that deep red outfit at her meeting with Macron. The top she’s wearing is flattering but then you get to look at the pants she is wearing – OMG – did she really go out on the town in her PJ’s? Really PM, the pants are very unflattering and it looks like you really need to pull them up just a tad.
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April 17, 2018 9:09am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Any comment about Andrew Little’s tie in this pic accompanying his Opinion piece on Taranaki Energy?
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/103148864/what-do-we-do-when-we-can-no-longer-rely-on-the-black-stuff
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:19am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    It looks like a butterfly took a massive dump down his chest, after a particularly spicy curry.
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:46am
    - sooty
      
      Nah. Seagull, mate!
      
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      April 17, 2018 3:06pm
Happychappy

Barry Soper thinks he is special because people on social media think it is strange that he cannot travel to the USA. Obviously he has spent to much time with Winston and has learnt to be full of his own self importance only to find out that doesn’t count in the real world and if you forget to fill your papers in properly you get the same treatment as others do.
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April 17, 2018 9:13am
EAD_TWO

Apparently if you oppose starting a war in Syria you’re an anti Semitic far right nazi:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/13/syria-intervention-conservative-rightwing-opposition-trump
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April 17, 2018 9:15am
- Dave Mann
  
  starting a war in Syria
  
  😀
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:23am
Odakyu-sen

When is peaceful protest “intimidation”? How do you judge?
Is is inappropriate to protest against certain (decision-making) members of society?

Ref: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12033463

Should protests be time-limited? Or is the person who stands with a placard on a busy street month after month protesting the same thing mentally ill?
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April 17, 2018 9:20am
wreck1080

Israel Folau stands by ‘gays in hell’ comment.

Interesting situation here. Clash between religious freedom vs the right to be gay.

Although, Folau has some things going against him — he is a rugby player, and his religion is Christianity.

Had he been Islamic , probably all good.

Wiser man probably would have said he doesn’t talk religion or politics in public.
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April 17, 2018 9:27am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The reason one should not publicly talk about politics, religion or sport is because people have strong emotional commitments to their beliefs in these areas, and to challenge those beliefs is tantamount (in their eyes) to a personal attack.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:34am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  There’s no clash because there is no right not to be offended. The rights of gays are unaffected by his comment.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:49am
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
NZ ANTI-CORRUPTION WHISTLE-BLOWER Penny Bright UPDATE!
(Tuesday 17 April 2018 9am)

Help ‘Anti-corruption whistle-blower’ Penny Bright save her home! – Givealittle

https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/help-anti-corruption-whistle-blower-penny-bright

$6200 so far from
76 very generous donors

$14,800 to go!

Just need another 740 good people making a $20 donation.

The goal?

$21,000 by midnight Friday 20 April 2018.

$20,000 to cover outstanding rates (excluding legal fees and penalties), plus $1000 to cover the Give A Little 5% service fee.

?

At midnight this Friday 20 April 2018 – this ‘Give A Little’ Page closes.

I know that there are a lot more than 76 people out there who support my eleven year campaign for transparency and accountability in the spending of public rates monies on private sector consultants and contractors ?

It has always been my intention to pay outstanding rates.

The reason why I set up this Give A Little page is because a number of people asked me to ?

Once collected – the $20,000 for outstanding rates will be held in a solicitor’s account ‘in escrow’.

A HUGE thank you to those who have already contributed ?

(And I do understand the being broke thing, so not everyone is in a position to help out financially ?
SHARING this post amongst your friends, families, workmates, anyone who supports the public being told exactly where public monies are spent?

THANKS!

Her Warship ?
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April 17, 2018 9:32am
- Rich Prick
  
  Pack up your shit and leave.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:36am
  - stigie
    
    You’re fucked Penny. Get in touch with Johnboy, he could be your saviour..?
    
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    April 17, 2018 9:43am
    - KiWombat
      
      I haven’t seen your name on the list yet Penny – don’t you have a couple of dollars to contribute to your own rates bill ?
      
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      April 17, 2018 5:18pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Penny pay? You’ve got to be joking. Bludgers pay for sweet fuck all, they use ‘other peoples’ money’
        
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        April 17, 2018 5:44pm
- Harkman
  
  I was in Paknsave the other night and there was a conspiracy theory nutter hippie woman that looked like you walking up to all the young, minimum wage shelf stackers saying, “Did you know that there is plastics in the water bottles, I can’t remember what brands, but my friend at Countdown told me.” It was the same line to each worker.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:46am
- alloytoo
  
  Penny,
  
  I raised the question more than a few years ago of you placing the outstanding rates in a Lawyer’s trust account every year.
  
  By doing so you could well have blunted any criticism that your position was merely an attempt to avoid your legal obligations and bludge off the rest of Auckland’s long suffering ratepayers, and that your objection to paying your rates had some moral, if no legal, credibility and standing.
  
  Under such circumstance I and perhaps others might well have contributed against any fines, interest and penalties that may have accrued as a result of a principled protest.
  
  As it stands however, it’s apparent to me that you have avoided paying your rates not in a principled fashion but merely as a means to an end to finance your self aggrandizement as an unappointed, unelected supposed “Publicwatchdog”
  
  So to answer your question:
  
  No.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:48am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I couldn’t agree more alloytoo. To have put the money aside on a regular basis would have been the principled thing to do; what one might have expected from an “anti-corruption whistleblower”.
    
    Instead however Penny hasn’t put a cent aside, yet she has still been able to travel to all sorts of conferences around the globe, even though she claims to receive no income. That simply doesn’t pass the sniff test, and in many ways, Ms Bright is every bit as opaque as the Auckland Council whom she despises, rather than the epitome of transparency she claims to be.
    
    My answer is also “no”. Having made her bed, Penny Bright must now sleep in it.
    
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    April 17, 2018 11:28am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Penny, if you are refusing to pay the council as a matter of principle, how does it further your principles for the council to be paid with other people’s money?
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:51am
  - Swifty
    
    Exactly!
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:00am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Stop Talking Sense.
    Edit, I fucked up.
    Stop Making Sense!
    
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    April 17, 2018 5:47pm
- simpleton1
  
  At least “give a little” legitimizes cleaning out a bank account.
  When one considers previous history.
  
  Would one appoint one so knowledgeable to an “anti corruption summit”
  
  A sort of self appointed secretary. All meetings, motions attendees are recorded? Only now purported claims for expenses.
  
  Appears to be a self appointed auditor. Is that a corruption?, a conflict of interest.?
  
  Money is gone.
  
  Cleaned out bank account for purported claim of expenses? Where are the recorded and passed minutes?
  
  In another brilliant showing of respect for democracy, Penny completely ignored the G.A. rules that it must approve all funds before they are released (over $100) by usurping the last $200+ in the bank account, without G.A. approval, ostensibly with the help of “Chris Glen” who was on the finance committee and was also a bank signatory.
  
  https://occupysavvy.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/penny-bright-fails-to-co-opt-occupy-auckland-again/
  
  With angle grinding integrity being secretary and auditor, transparency, claimer, looks like conflict of interest that is corrupt, all coming from a shaken “rate haven” and hiding behind “anti corruption summit” concepts.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:53am
- Swifty
  
  “It has always been my intention to pay outstanding rates.”
  
  Bullshit.
  
  You have deliberately chosen a life without paid income and any income you have received you have not put aside for your rates – but you’ve happily and loudly galloped off to international ‘conferences’ instead.
  
  And now you’re bludging off your fellow community members in order to get yourself off the hook!
  
  Nope. No sympathy from me.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:54am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    I repeat my earlier post.
    
    People reveal themselves through their deeds, not their words.
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:26am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Too late Penny, the legal process is in train.
  You’re out on your arse and there’s nothing you can do about it.
  You made a right royal fuckup of the whole thing.
  The cost of cleaning up will be more than the dump is worth. It will sell for land value only.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:55am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Indeed Captain, it’s hardly staged for maximum price. I can smell the cat piss from here.
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12033414
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:01am
  - DigNap15
    
    And she got off a lot of penalty interest and council legal charges!
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:45am
- KevOB
  
  Penny unless you comply with the law, that includes the Courts, you will die by the law. $20K in escow is not $35K in Court (in time).
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:12am
- Swifty
  
  And where is the ‘tidal-wave’ of support you assured us was coming your way?
  
  Only a third of the way there with only three days left to go.
  
  Not loking good for you Penny…….
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:16am
- howitis
  
  From what I understand the rates and penalties are just over $34,000.
  In addition, there are costs awarded of over $20,000 to Council. These will be deducted before any settlement is made of net proceeds to Ms Bright.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/100790275/auckland-activist-penny-bright-forced-to-sell-house
  
  There are possibly other court costs including to the High court or other courts as this process has dragged on for 10 years.
  Council has paid out in excess of $120,000 (to the end of 2016) externally as well as internal time and cost. This is ratepayers money. To go nowhere. No footpaths repaired; no trees trimmed, no money for fisting. The battle now is with the dreadful Auckland Council but it began in 2007 with Auckland City Council which was a far better and fairer run entity. Waaaay less UN2030.
  
  It would be fair to guess the amount deductible from sale price is in excess of $60,000 for rates arrears, penalties, and court fees due. Possibly up to over $80,000.
  There will be legal costs and tender costs associated with the sale process.
  
  I am unclear of what $20,000 of this givealittle will achieve.
  As usual Ms Bright is being disingenuous.
  She wants Council to be ‘honest and open’ but she is not being honest and open herself.
  When Ms Bright was campaigning for Mayor in 2016 she posted slogans and shit on Kiwiblog.
  People asked her questions and she did not reply.
  There were few forums where she could interact but KB was one.
  She had the opportunity to interact and explain herself. She did not then.
  She does not now.
  
  >>How will $20,000 may any difference?
  Ms Bright is the antithesis of ‘clear, open, and honest’.
  This is Ms Bright’s modus operandi.
  Spray and walk away.
  Kind of like cats do.
  
  This belligerence will stuff her up now.
  She clearly never put the money aside and is now in the poo.
  
  Estimated cost of belligerence.
  Sale price ceteris paribus, say, $1,000,000
  Discounted by between $60,000 and 120,000 due to buyer knowing they will not get unfettered access and cannot do a viewing before tender closes. ie Hassle tax. or let’s call it a levy!
  It is an amount that Ms Bright will not receive on settlement due to self-imposed belligerence tax (or levy!) .
  Take a midpoint of $90,000 (of 60 to 120k)
  Take her most favourable estimate of all the arrears, penalties, court fees, and any fines as $60,000
  Take direct settlement cost , lawyer’s fees, tender fees etc of $5,000
  So Initial sell price possible of $1,000,000
  Deduct $90,000; deduct $60,000; deduct $5,000 and Ms Bright gets $845,000 net.
  
  Result: Loses the house AND pays tens of $thousand$ as belligerence tax out of her own equity.
  Not very bright at all.
  
  She will have the net $845,000 and can return to her old hometown in the Wairarapa and buy a mansion and have money left over.
  She could get on the South Wairarapa District Council and scare the crap out of them…as payback for Cathy Casey being there then moving to Auckland to scare the crap out of us.
  
  My old boss years ago used to say ‘morals don’t feed families’.
  He was correct. They don’t.
  Surrender to battle another day would have made sense but its seems this is not in Ms Bright’s lexicon.
  In the next week she loses the battle and the war.
  
  [Exec summary: if the amount owing is in excess of $60,000 for rates arrears, penalties, and court costs, what difference will $20,000 make? Will Penny explain or spray and walk away as usual? ]
  
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  April 17, 2018 12:43pm
  - simpleton1
    
    Do old habits die hard?.
    Quick to claim un-ratified expenses to clean out a bank account, claiming to be secretary, treasurer and a conflict of interest auditor of sorts.
    https://occupysavvy.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/penny-bright-fails-to-co-opt-occupy-auckland-again/
    A version of being a “penny wise and a pound foolish”
    
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    April 17, 2018 1:38pm
    - howitis
      
      Noted from above S.1 at 9.53
      Mantra #17 Do as I say, not as I do.
      See, Ms Bright does have the chops to be a poli.
      
      Note: if the $20k target is not reached and is genuinely in a Solicitors Trust account or Escrow then by inference it will (morally?) need to be refunded.
      Nonetheless Ms Bright will still need to pay her fee to givealittle plus any bank fees and possible service fee to the escrow service.
      Her track record of not settling dues and disputing things until others give up is the precedent here.
      Track record does not look good for repayment to donors.
      
      What may have been a good idea 11 years ago with a much more reasonable, smaller, more tightly run Auckland City Council has escalated out of sight. Her original argument was with Metrowater even before that. The very dodgy Auckland Council of today was formed in Nov 2010. It is a whole new ball of wax of dishonesty. She is now taking on the tweakers of the UN.
      
      There has been merit in the original cause but the wood and the trees seem to have caused a split in the space time continuum somewhere along the way in Pennyworld.
      
      The good news is Ms Bright will get the government pension in about 2 years and will qualify for the gold card so can travel on Auckland city buses and public transport at greatly reduced fees.
      
      Hint: Taxcinda will need a nanny in about 6 or so weeks. Newly homeless Ms Bright might apply for the role. It could be live in and come with an electric car to zip around in and carry the placards! It is only 2km from the current fortress. With her whistle-blowing skills she could blow the whistle on any air hostess sneaking up the driveway while the esteemed leader is away advising other world leaders.
      
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      April 17, 2018 2:29pm
  - KevOB
    
    You are are being generous. I would expect 30-40% discount from market on this special sale.
    
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    April 17, 2018 2:34pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See?
  I Spray and Walk Away
  Rubbish Stays
  I walk away.
  I for one will be gloating when I see Penny Bright being taken away to the funny farm by the men in white coats.
  Karma is a bitch
  
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  April 17, 2018 1:06pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Penny:
  
  I know that there are a lot more than 76 people out there who support my eleven year campaign for transparency and accountability in the spending of public rates monies on private sector consultants and contractors.
  
  A lot more than 76 people you say?
  
  1. March 2011 – Botany by-election – 128 votes
  2. November 2011 – 2011 general election (Epsom) – 124 votes
  3. September 2014 – 2014 general election (Helensville) – 420 votes
  4. February 2017 – Mt Albert by-election – 139 votes
  5. September 2017 – 2017 general election (Tamaki) – 244 votes
  
  It looks like you won’t get to $21,000. So, as Sofia asked, what will you do with the money?
  
  There seems to be nothing to indicate what happens if the target is missed. If the sale goes ahead, is any amount less than $20,000 just a happy bonus to go with what the High court passes back to Penny, after the Auckland Council receives what it is owed? Maybe little further integrity and transparency would help there too.
  
  As a purported watchdog raising money, you should be transparent with your spending intentions.
  
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  April 17, 2018 1:28pm
  - Swifty
    
    Transparency for thee but not for me…..
    
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    April 17, 2018 2:32pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  How come the woman’s rag magazines are not all over this like flies on shit?
  They well may be – how would I know, but I’m sure my partner would have pointed it out
  
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  April 17, 2018 5:55pm
dime

Jamie olivers resturants are turning to shit.

this made me laugh:

“Oliver had “begged landlords of his underperforming restaurants to cut rents in an attempt to stop the chain going bust””

ummm so you begged a landlord to suffer financially, while not topping up the business with your own cash? the fuck?

typical leftie.

no doubt landlords are evil, but 200 million dollar jamie is ace and hes keeping all his money.
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April 17, 2018 9:37am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  It’s interesting how so many wealthy celebrities pitch themselves as virtue-signalling “left wing” types.
  
  I suspect that they are determined, hard-working, professionals who are well aware of their consumer base, and are doing all they can to keep on side with that market.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:49am
- Harkman
  
  Yep, my Aunt in the midlands went to the one that opened near her about 2 years ago for my uncle’s birthday. Said she had to wait hours for their meal and the food was sh!t.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:49am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Eaten twice at his restaurants, Brighton (Italian) and in London (15). Average at best, no wonder they are struggling.
  
  Love his books and his cooking, but he cant seem to get the business model right.
  
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  April 17, 2018 9:54am
  - lifesgood
    
    I’ve eaten at Jamie’s Italian, ridiculously over priced for next to nothing. Wouldn’t be going there again.
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:23am
    - RF
      
      The one in Brisbane is not that flash plus bloody noisy….
      
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      April 17, 2018 6:09pm
- stephieboy
  
  dime , recalls Trump steaks , Airlines , University , Go Trump etc
  
  http://gawker.com/a-complete-list-of-donald-trump-s-business-disasters-1764151188
  
  Sigh
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:18am
- kowtow
  
  His accent was once described as ‘mockney”. Classic. The guy’s a fraud.
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:36am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Born and raised in the village of Clavering, Essex, I would not expect Oliver to sound like a Cockney.
    
    Still, presentation, placement and packaging are paramount, as any marketer will tell you.
    
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    April 17, 2018 11:30am
    - mandk
      
      Oliver is an Essex boy, but he comes from the north of the county, which is decidedly posh. I know the area well.
      
      Clavering is about as genteel as it is possible to get: https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=clavering+essex&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjG3eKHjsDaAhWLyrwKHWVdCbcQ_AUoA3oECAAQBQ&biw=1920&bih=1094
      
      He also went to what used to be called Newport Grammar School (Founded 1588).
      
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      April 17, 2018 1:06pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Conventional scheduled TV is dying, and so therefore is his publicity machine and empire.
  
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  April 17, 2018 3:58pm
Morrissey

Were the following words spoken by a German soldier in Poland in 1942?

No, they were spoken by a soldier from the “most moral army in the world” in 2015…..

“We will hit you with gas until you die: the children, the youth, the old people. You will all die, we won’t leave any of you alive. We have arrested one of you, he’s with us now, we took him from his home. And we will slaughter and kill him while you watch if you keep throwing stones. Go home or we will gas you until you die. Your families, your children, everyone. We will kill you. Listen to me, all of you go home, it’s better for you.”

I recommend Kiwibloggers watch all of this interview, especially the chilling video from the Aida refugee camp in 2015, which starts at the 26.39 mark….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_-_KvTQJMw
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April 17, 2018 10:15am
- Harkman
  
  So where’s the Labour fiend on your list? You’ve been strangely quiet lately.
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:30am
  - Morrissey
    
    Are we talking the “Gropers” series here, my friend? Or have you gotten hold of some intelligence re our upcoming “No-Hopers” series?
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:55am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Morrissey:
      
      our upcoming “No-Hopers” series?
      
      Could I suggest you start with the Labour Party? There’s enough shallow talent there to keep your series going until the next election!
      
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      April 17, 2018 1:32pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Is the un-named source talking about tear gas when he says “gas”?
  
  “Listen to me, all of you go home, it’s better for you.” At least he is offering a peaceful solution (not a final one, as you allude to).
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:31am
  - Morrissey
    
    You’ve written some really unintelligent and dull-witted things on this blog, but that is one of your worst. Watch the video: the source of those Nazi-style sentiments is an IDF soldier. He’s doing no more than repeating official Israeli policy. You want his name, rank and serial number, do you?
    
    Actually, I think you need to READ rather than simply watching videos. It might make you think twice before you endorse such fascism. Only a fool or a brute would interpret that soldier’s murderous threats as “offering a peaceful solution.”
    
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    April 17, 2018 10:53am
Maggy Wassilieff

Hubby’s old school about to drop parts of NCEA.
About bloody time.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/103132351/palmerston-north-boys-high-school-students-may-not-get-ncea-level-1-in-2019
What a nightmare this “world-leading” assessment has been.
How many other countries have rushed to emulate the NCEA model?
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April 17, 2018 10:28am
- SGA
  
  I agree Maggie. As far as I’m concerned, they could make the first three years of High School broad, general education (with some options) and give them something like the old Sixth Form Certificate at the end. Then worry about getting them to “specialise” in areas over the final two years. The days of three years of High School and leave with your School Cert are long gone.
  
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  April 17, 2018 10:45am
Morrissey

Germany, where the grandchildren of Nazis denounce American Jews as “anti-Semites”

“It’s not easy being Green, especially when you’re a puppet for a right wing muppet.”—Max Blumenthal, re Germany’s infamously stupid Green politician Volker Beck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClMHNw-9l48
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April 17, 2018 10:38am
DigNap15

Yes how many people can afford real NZ butter these days!
Just so they can pay some useless fat cat CEO $6 a year!
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April 17, 2018 10:47am
cmm

Government by numbers:

Cindy has 61 days until due date. Unlikely to last more than half that due to being an elderly primagravida and all that.

The “Genter score” year-to-date road toll is slightly down at 393 today. That is still way up on 333 this time last year. Anything more than 350 is statistically significant.
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April 17, 2018 10:54am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  If the road toll is significantly high, perhaps the authorities have the wrong strategy?
  
  The real measure would be fatalities per 100,000 km traveled, rather than total number of fatalities. If you increase the number of cars on the road, then even if the rate of accidents is unchanged, more people will die because there are more people driving.
  
  Or is it just one of those years?
  
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  April 17, 2018 11:07am
  - cmm
    
    Statistical significance tests suggest it is highly unlikely to just be “one of those years”.
    
    Based on broad-brush statistics, the chance of it just being “one of those years” is way less than 1%.
    
    But, disclaimer, it is 37 years since I studied statistics so I might be missing something.
    
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    April 17, 2018 5:16pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  By my calculations the 68% interval is 315-351 and the 95% interval is 298-368.
  
  So it is very unlikely a figure of 393 is just random noise even allowing for some increase in distance driven. Of course there is the usual caveat that very unlikely things happen randomly all the time.
  
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  April 17, 2018 11:30am
  - cmm
    
    Correct. The easy “rule of thumb” I use for statistical significance (it is a long time since I did stats at uni) is o use the square root of the number.
    
    square root of 333 is 18. Thus anything within +- 18 of 333 is not statistically significant.
    
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    April 17, 2018 5:10pm
JasonJohns

anika moa is using her tattoos to intimidate elderly pakeha male tv viewers. when one gent named peter had the courage to complain he was doxed…

tattoos have become an instrument of terroroisation…http://spy.nzherald.co.nz/spy-news/anika-moas-fiery-response-to-tattoo-complaint/
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April 17, 2018 10:55am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  That’s okay. Elderly white males are not a protected species in this country.
  
  //
  
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  April 17, 2018 11:36am
MH

metoo vs tattoo.
ink parlours are the only way some NZers gain some idea of spelling and use of English words, albeit a limiting way of educating them (skin deep). No regerts.
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April 17, 2018 11:06am
Keeping Stock

The Prime Minister has told an outright lie in her speech to the Paris Institute of Political Science overnight. She stated:

I entered Parliament that same year, but as an Opposition MP with my party losing that election after nine years in office. I distinctly remember sitting in the debating chamber and watching from the backbenches as legislation that brought in our emissions trading scheme was eroded, and as a committee of Parliament was established to question climate change. It felt to me like we were slowly but surely sliding backwards.

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/climate-change-challenges-and-opportunities-pacific-perspective

Peter Dunne was the chair of the select committee that examined National’s revision of the Emissions Trading Scheme passed by Labour in the dying days of the Clark administration. He has confirmed this morning that the PM’s rewriting of history was incorrect. In a tweet he said:

The select committee was set up to review the emissions trading scheme. The question of climate change was most definitely outside our terms of reference.

When asked if the PM had mischaracterised the situation in her speech, he said “All I will say is she is wrong, completely so.

Will anyone in the media pack traveling with the PM to Europe question her on her patently false statement? Or will our media remain complicit in allowing our Prime Minister to rewrite history, for no reason that to make her look good?
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April 17, 2018 11:10am
- MrTips
  
  What???!!! She LIED??!!!! Our glorious high school communist?
  
  I must retreat to the fainting couch at this terrible news……
  
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  April 17, 2018 11:16am
fernglas

Penny is in the Herald:
“Activist Penny Bright says she’s not going anywhere, despite her home being listed for mortgagee sale over unpaid rates.

The Kingsland home owned by self-proclaimed “anti-corruption whistleblower” is listed for sale on Barfoot & Thompson’s website, with a tender closing next Tuesday.”

All up, with rates, penalties, interest and costs, she owes $54,000 roughly. Her givealittle page has raised $4,000. If she persists she will be lucky to get land value minus the $54k. And, despite what she thinks, it won’t be hard to get her out.
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April 17, 2018 11:12am
- RalphT
  
  The $54,000 could be easily raised by selling tickets to her eviction, but of course by then it would be too late.
  
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  April 17, 2018 11:34am
  - stigie
    
    With the money i spent on scaffolding to be erected across the road from the hovel which now is not going to happen, i should have given it to penny like the good bastard that i am !~
    
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    April 17, 2018 11:43am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Mortgagee sale seems inaccurate, she reportedly has no mortgage but it is a rating sale.
  
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  April 17, 2018 12:44pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Look at the state of Penny’s front yard in this NZ Herald photo. What a disgrace!
  
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  April 17, 2018 1:34pm
  - stigie
    
    Will fumigation be of any help Nostra..?
    
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    April 17, 2018 1:38pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stigie:
      
      The land is likely to be more contaminated than a mine site, so fumigation would just be like a temporary air freshener. I’d also say the house should be condemned (unfit for human occupation ; possibly OK for cats),
      
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      April 17, 2018 1:57pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        The urea concentrations (feline derived) would be off the charts.
        
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        April 17, 2018 2:38pm
      - sooty
        
        If her front yard is that bad, imaine what her vege patch is like.
        
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        April 17, 2018 3:16pm
      - stigie
        
        Im sure she keeps it weeded sooty, you never know she might meet some wealthy bloke and come into money !~
        
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        April 17, 2018 5:10pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Napalm might fix the mess – – – ?
        
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        April 17, 2018 5:32pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        KiWombat:
        
        It would – but Penny’s neighbours may feel like they’ve suffered enough already?
        
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        April 17, 2018 6:00pm
      - nasska
        
        Nostra
        
        Someone above mentioned that Penny’s record with public funds is not all that good…..for example the closing of the ‘Occupy'(?) account.
        
        She has stated that anything raised through the Givealittle campaign will be held in a solicitor’s trust account.
        
        My query is what happens when the bludge doesn’t amount to enough to prevent the sale as seems likely. The funds raised obviously cannot then be used for the stated purpose.
        
        Legally speaking…..how can they be disbursed & to whom?
        
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        April 17, 2018 6:10pm
      - RF
        
        Must be many rats and mice feeding on the filth.
        
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        April 17, 2018 6:29pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        Legally speaking…..how can [the GiveaLittle funds] be disbursed & to whom?
        
        It’s an interesting question – and, up-thread, you’ll see I asked Penny to address this point earlier today.
        
        Penny’s GiveaLittle page makes various statements to the effect that she’s seeking money for payment of her outstanding rates.
        If the house is sold, and Auckland Council recovers the outstanding rates amount from the house sale price, then Penny’s debt to Auckland Council will be extinguished.
        
        The moral position – leaving aside the legal position for a moment – would be for Penny to return the money to the generous donors (assuming the GiveaLittle website allows this).
        
        The legal position – leaving aside the moral position because Penny doesn’t seem to have any morals – is that a disappointed generous donor could sue Penny for breach of what’s called a “constructive trust” if she applies the money for a different purpose (eg living expenses). But, in reality, the donated amounts are so low that no one would bother suing her.
        
        So, if you’re Penny, life’s pretty good – apart from the messy house sale business!
        
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        April 17, 2018 6:46pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”if you’re Penny, life’s pretty good”…..
        
        Amen to that. Martyrdom & free publicity to boot!
        
        But I’m still wondering about that escrow bit & the solicitor’s trust account. To this poorly educated retired cocky it seems possible that the legal eagle could be considered to be accountable if he released the funds for other than their stated purpose. Which is what Penny was probably hoping to convey in order to maximise the bludge.
        
        Solicitors are not generally renown for leaving themselves open to accusations of misapportioning funds. How do they usually cover their arses in cases like this?
        
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        April 17, 2018 6:59pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        Solicitors are not generally renown for leaving themselves open to accusations of misapportioning funds.
        
        Hopefully Nookin and Alex Masterley are around (names bolded to attract their attention) – they’ll know this area more than I do.
        
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        April 17, 2018 7:09pm
      - stigie
        
        Interesting topic Nasska but Penny has a cunning plan and that is people that have donated are not going to worry about getting it back because it won’t be worth it when you’re up against Penny.
        She will have those funds available to herself when fucking off overseas to stupid watchdog conferences on other peoples money. Such a cunning plan ole chap !~
        
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        April 17, 2018 7:23pm
starboard

Maori thief bailed early.. Fat fingered bastard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/95845191/convicted-fraudster-sir-ngatata-love-granted-parole
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April 17, 2018 12:42pm
- stephieboy
  
  starbaord , unlike this $2.5 million fraudster?
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/331405/disgraced-auckland-businessman-to-be-released-from-jail
  
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  April 17, 2018 2:37pm
MH

even a squirrel sets aside some nuts for winter.
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April 17, 2018 12:58pm
rightoverlabour

Money grabbing cunts The lot of them. Bus lanes empty for most of the time while cars remain stationary for hours. Hate these bastards just slightly less than Peters
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April 17, 2018 1:09pm
Paulus

Change of subject – I see that one Lloyd Falk is vying to become President of Grey Power.
I wonder whether this gentleman is the one who was Dame Annette King’s political manager, or whatever you call it, for many years, and was appointed Chairman of EQC under her watch.
Must be reciprocal as she is currently Chairperson of EQC who with the Little fat Christchurch MP is solving all the outstanding 2500 claims from the earthquake.
Have not heard a single result yet !
Chickens in the hen house eh Falk ?
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April 17, 2018 1:24pm
rightoverlabour

I suppose these morons are Labour supporters. Fuck, there are a lot of stupid people in New Zealand. And they have power. Like the Moronic NZTA, Auckland Council, Teachers Registration wankers, the list goes on….

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/103172460/beam-no-longer-barring-tokoroa-restaurant-opening
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April 17, 2018 2:21pm
Jack5

Only in NZ: Why doesn’t Guantanamo Bay have a golf course?

The foreign teenager convicted in Christchurch of planning a pro-ISIS-style car and knife attack in the city, is playing golf as part of the rehabilitation the court has prescribed.

Contrast that with the treatment of a man, whose stepdaughter was buried alive by a subhuman criminal, and who looks likely to be kicked out of the country ahead of a possible parole hearing for the murderer:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12034131
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April 17, 2018 2:30pm
- stephieboy
  
  jack5 , you not suggesting the introduction into NZ of” enhanced interrogation techniques ”
  
  http://www.newsweek.com/torture-used-us-military-guantanamo-bay-despite-being-banned-un-says-747373
  
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  April 17, 2018 2:34pm
  - Jack5
    
    If they got hold of the horny young member of Stephiestani Trolls Ltd, he’d be easy to break.
    
    Just put him in front of a parade of nubile young women and he would melt down … a tittering, confessing shambles.
    
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    April 17, 2018 4:06pm
Nostradamus

Stephieboy:

You could use “enhanced interrogation techniques” to find out who posted a notice about you on the church door!
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April 17, 2018 3:14pm
Ross12

Well a few of us have being saying agriculture is next on Shaw’s hit list –here we go

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/103175915/interim-climate-change-committee-includes-former-commissioner-jan-wright

NZ is going to be stuffed if some one doesn’t say “enough is enough”
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April 17, 2018 3:34pm
- noskire
  
  Yup, for starters, I bet they’re aiming to cull the dairy herd by 25% in five years – by tax.
  
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  April 17, 2018 4:54pm
- DigNap15
  
  They just don’t give up do they!
  
  NZ is only a small country we should not try to be first at anything like this.
  Let other countries try electric cars in a big way. We don’t make them.
  First its oil, now its farming!
  What do they think NZ will live on?
  Hemp?
  
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  April 17, 2018 5:37pm
  - mikewasmild
    
    Is there anything at which New Zealand should lead the world?
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:19pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      In no particular order:
      Rugby
      Sailing
      Cricket
      Eco-Tourism
      Hot chicks per capita
      Avg Income
      Everything Diary Industry
      Everything Sheep
      Everything Bee’s
      Everything Kiwifruit
      Aquaculture
      Employment Rates
      Education Rates
      
      Surely there is plenty more…. Issue is name one of those that these useless cunts in government will provide
      
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      April 17, 2018 9:03pm
      - mikewasmild
        
        I think your ‘Diary Industry’ might be in decline.
        
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        April 17, 2018 9:20pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Soz…. I’m sure you got the drift, your a clever boy
        
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        April 17, 2018 10:03pm
- Piniwi
  
  But but Ross12 Red Dann has rushed to tell us this good news just to hand today.
  “The International Monetary Fund says New Zealand is enjoying a solid economic expansion and growth is expected to remain around three per cent.” Note this in fact:
  “The IMF has today delivered its two-yearly review of the New Zealand economy.” Sounds about as good as the report from the UN on their progress in finding a diplomatic solution to the Syrian conflict. In the words of the old Zen Master “We shall see”. Obviously much more quickly than the IMF.
  
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  April 17, 2018 6:36pm
Jack5

The case of Australian rugby player Israel Folau’s views on homosexuality are raising dust across the Tasman.

And not only there. Jamie Wall gives his views on the Radio NZ site (link below).

Free speech and its limits (if there should be any) are at the core of the debate.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/sport/355306/folau-fallout-rugby-australia-can-t-hide-from-hypocrisy

AND, from Australia, it seems as though some of Australian rugby’s sponsors may bring their guns to bear:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/folau-escapes-sanction-over-anti-gay-remarks-but-sponsors-showdown-looms-20180417-p4za2k.html
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April 17, 2018 4:04pm
- mikewasmild
  
  He has the right to express his opinion. His employers have the right to dissociate themselves from that opinion. Sponsors have the right to withdraw their sponsorship if they think their association with him damages their reputation.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:21pm
  - nasska
    
    Agreed. It comes under the heading of free speech.
    
    Folau can grandstand about his interpretation of what his imaginary Skydaddy thinks without fear of arrest or punishment but he is not immune to the consequences.
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:54pm
noskire

Another reason not to play golf: Supervised golf for Christchurch teenager who planned terrorist attack.
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April 17, 2018 4:43pm
- cmm
  
  “My favourite activity is golf.”
  
  So you commit a crime and they pay for you to do your favourite thing!
  
  For fuck sakes judges… sentencing is supposed to DETER crime, not hand out rewards and incentives.
  
  Cunning plan: maybe if I blow something up they will find me a guide and send me fly fishing! Or is the offer not open to boring old straight white guys?
  
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  April 17, 2018 5:03pm
  - noskire
    
    He couldn’t find any knives to carry out his attack – so they give him some golf clubs. “The reason no-one was hurt was that he did not have access to knives.”
    
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    April 17, 2018 5:20pm
lifesgood

Another thing to hate about the porcelain princess: Please note Cindy the word is “nothing” can you see a k on the end? No, because there isn’t one. It is NOT nothink so for god’s sake pronounce it properly.
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April 17, 2018 6:10pm
- nasska
  
  What about the pig-ignorant princess’ habit of interspersing her waffle with “you know”?
  
  No, I don’t know you cretinous waste of oxygen! That’s why I’m reading or listening to your drivel!
  
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  April 17, 2018 6:16pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    There is noffink wong with poverdy doncha no
    
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    April 17, 2018 7:00pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  For $4 +GST you can discover whether saying nothink is an example of verbal laziness or an ancient treasure.
  
  Anythink or Nothink: A Lazy Variant or an Ancient Treasure?
  https://search.informit.com.au/documentSummary;dn=778404727839933;res=IELHSS
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:19pm
RF

Jesus H Christ.

I just choked on my whisky.

Whilst his commie partner is saving the world and scalding word leaders Jethro is with new best friends including Dan Clark and other retired ABs.

They were pleased to be making real coffee with the husband of our PM.

FFS. Is that the new line being pushed trying to make the unmarried mother more acceptable.

Is it possible to dislike this motley crew even more.
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April 17, 2018 6:17pm
Happychappy

Does anyone really believe that it was Cheryl Gwyn idea to have a committee of David Fisher, Nicky Hagar and Deborah Manning to discuss and advise the Sucurity and Intelligence watchdog like Andrew Little is saying.
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April 17, 2018 7:47pm
- mikewasmild
  
  Yes, I believe it.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Our PM makes the Guardian’s best photos of the day slot.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2018/apr/16/mondays-best-photos-protests-around-the-world-and-tulips-in-china#img-1

(Nice coat)
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April 17, 2018 7:59pm
- Jack5
  
  Sure looks like Macron’s pinching her bum and she’s enjoying it.
  
  Beats tugging pony tails.
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:07pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Oh, I missed that….. but why would I be looking at Ladies’ bums?
    
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    April 17, 2018 8:14pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Maggy:
      
      why would I be looking at Ladies’ bums
      
      Well, if you were in Hagley Park, you wouldn’t be looking at a lady’s bum now, would you? 🙂
      
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      April 17, 2018 8:43pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @nostradamus
        
        You’re going to have to help me here…
        
        I can’t quite figure out whether your cryptic reference to Hagley Park is a Warning to me not to venture thither or an invitation to discover the bluebell delights of this pubic space.
        
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        April 17, 2018 9:15pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Maggie, he is a vile Gentlemen trying to lead you astray.
        
        And you last comment is bang on the money…
        
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        April 17, 2018 9:32pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Morrissey has another to add to his list of gropers. Or is that only if the gropee objects?
    
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    April 17, 2018 9:08pm
- nasska
  
  Looks like the opening scene of an upmarket dogfood commercial!
  
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  April 17, 2018 8:15pm
  - mikewasmild
    
    ‘Upmarket’ was the feedback they were looking for…
    nasska is now officially a fanboi.
    
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