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Right of way is Way of Right

There are two stories currently jockeying for position in the NZ Media.

One story is how the proposed ban on foreign investment will have a significant effect on our economy going forward.

The other is how Princess Pearly-Whites is going from island to island handing out money to our pacific neighbours like there’s no tomorrow! Did the Air Force fit one of the 757’s with a printing press??

So, can someone please explain this to me? I am somewhat befuddled.

Why is it that foreign countries invest in our country, creating jobs, stimulating the economy and increasing our GDP, it’s somehow a BAD thing. But when we sent our PM all over the South Pacific handing out what, to them, is ‘foreign’ money, and expecting no tangible return on our investment at all, and it’s done so under little or no oversight or ongoing governance, that’s a GOOD thing???

The lack of simple logic in this government is doing my head in.
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March 9, 2018 8:01am
- KiWombat
  
  ROW you have to try and lock in the Pacific vote somehow.
  
  “Princess PW” and her CoL don’t seem to have alot of creativity to rely on, and as they have discovered a bucket full of cash left under Bill’s desk, they are handing it out willy nilly before anybody calls out to them to account for it !
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:04am
  - KevOB
    
    What appropriation is the money coming out of?
    All public money is required to be voted by Parliament or have special arrangements made for post approval.
    Pollies don’t have personal slush funds.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:27am
  - G152
    
    The islanders vote labor and have always done so.
    Apparently they’re buying votes they already own
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:38am
- tf78
  
  Remember Nero fiddled whilst Rome burned – we have another Nero here I’m afraid.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:12am
  - VicParking
    
    What about the South Islanders in Westport. Is the 757 calling there on the way back. I think not
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:29am
    - Liberty
      
      The coast has already got $23million From the People’s Princess slash fund.
      
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      March 9, 2018 8:57am
      - KiWombat
        
        That money is for the Pike River recovery agency – not an extra cent in aid for the horrendous damage caused by the cyclone.
        
        Good money after bad !
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:26am
      - stephieboy
        
        KiWombat , the Tasman district council has and is already providing assistance to the storm damaged areas in terms of Civil Defence and road and infrastructure reconstruction ,
        
        http://www.tasman.govt.nz/council/media-centre/public-notices/storm-event/
        
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        March 9, 2018 10:37am
      - Liberty
        
        Stephieboy
        The Tasman district council is not the west coast.
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:46am
      - KiWombat
        
        The Coast is Buller, Grey and South Westland.
        
        Tasman is a fair camel ride from there !
        
        Damage is extreme in South Westland.
        
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        March 9, 2018 2:34pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Damaged area is 450-500kms from Tasman SB
        
        Through a number of other districts as well !
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:09pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Good, maybe it will be a wake up call for the coast.
      
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      March 9, 2018 10:29am
    - KevOB
      
      Money cannot be readily diverted from vote item to vote item. Parliament not Government pre-approves expenditure in separate defined items which are voted on during the budget stages each year. The Government proposes: Parliament disposes.
      
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      March 9, 2018 12:33pm
- kevn
  
  @ROWWOR… Just a big bribe for votes. Simple as that.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:43am
  - stephieboy
    
    kevn , like under Bill English and John Keys ?
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:38am
    - lifesgood
      
      Moron.
      
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      March 9, 2018 11:06am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        I second that.
        
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        March 9, 2018 3:36pm
    - suzieq
      
      Who’s John Keys?
      
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      March 9, 2018 4:09pm
      - KiWombat
        
        It’s 5 year old talk.
        
        My granddaughter called him John Keys, she has just turned 5 !
        
        She’ll probably get it right before him though, she is not developmentally disabled !
        
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        March 9, 2018 7:53pm
- wiseowl
  
  ‘invest in our country,creating jobs, stimulating the economy and increasing GDP.’
  For a start GDP is thrown about as measure when it is the wrong measure.Foreign countries buy up our country at our expense ,create service sector jobs in the main which then feeds on itself or they buy up our land eg grapes,dairy,forestry,farms , horticulture then employ kiwis at the minimum wage and take profits offshore.
  Croaking Cassandra has good articles on GDP.Our economy has had no growth for years but there has been a huge transfer of wealth.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:16am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Interesting how many Pacific islands don’t allow foreigners freehold ownership. I agree that Kiwis shouldn’t be selling off our actual land to foreign ownership. Encourage them to start businesses here, if it will really help NZ, but surely our land is too precious to just sell off?
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:21am
- Dave Mann
  
  It’s nothing to do with buying the PI vote back in New Zealand. It’s to do with the fact that we have finally recognised the massively increasing influence of China at our back door.
  
  China is investigating billions all through the Pacific, both in straightforward aid programmes and also commercial investment – food production, fishing etc – in the islands and this will enable them not only to count on more diplomatic support in their confrontation with the US in the South China Sea, but ultimately possibly the goal of military or quasi-military bases.
  
  Whether the tooth fairy will have any success remains to be seen…. but I’m sure that this is the purpose of the trip. Expect similar from Australia in the coming months too.
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:28am
  - KevOB
    
    Probably true but 10 years too late.
    
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    March 9, 2018 12:35pm
  - Liberty
    
    Pacific islands are a financial burden on the
    New Zealand economy.
    If China wants to pay the bill. Then good on them.
    
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    March 9, 2018 4:53pm
Captain Mainwaring

So Comrade Stardust and the wizened dwarf are winging their way back from Raro having sprayed our money around the Pacific like confetti.
And this is just the beginning.
Please tell me why people who have never paid tax in New Zealand need us to pay for their pensions?
Parliament resumes in a couple of weeks. Amy will be well primed to rip Sweetcheeks to bits, and the rest of the new National lineup will be all guns blazing.
Can’t wait.
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March 9, 2018 8:01am
- Maxx
  
  Comrade Oprah you mean?
  I’m surprised everyone didn’t end up with a new car!
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:07am
  - cmm
    
    I did the calculations once for Cook Islands.
    
    We were essentially paying enough to cover a mortgage payment for every person in the Coos.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:17am
  - VicParking
    
    No just the chiefs and politicians
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:31am
- KiWombat
  
  “Wizened” Cap? Certainly he does appear to have been more sober-ish than we are accustomed to during this taxpayer funded holiday !
  
  Wonder whether he’s under doctors orders – but he would know better I suppose !
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:08am
- KevOB
  
  Pension payments in Raro have been contentious for years. The lifestyle there does not require the same means so those getting the same rate as in NZ are going to be unjustly rich and upset the local status and economy. All this would have been in the archives.
  Fools rush in …
  
  Save us from this Cobblement.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:31am
  - GoVege
    
    Nonsense Kev, P I’s share the wealth around! 🙂
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:43pm
- fernglas
  
  I’d be interested to know if the new requirements affect Ross Ardern’s super qualification; he has been out of New Zealand since 2004 and must be about the age where most of that was between 50 and 60.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:39am
  - Duxton
    
    As much as I despise Ross Ardern, the residency rules don’t apply to public servants whose role requires them to live abroad. I would be quite happy for him to get the pension and stay in Niue.
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:14am
  - Jaywalk
    
    The Superannuation and Retirement Act require the same residency requirements for NZ citizens, permanent residents, and specific pacific islands as they call them. There may be some slightly different provisions for veterans as they may spend a lot of time out of the country in service but I have not looked them up and that may apply to Ardern as he is there on public service or they may come under the specific pacific island category anyway.
    
    This is 10 years residency past the age of 20 and five years past the age of 50.
    
    The rules if specific pacific islands get this 5 years past 50 years requirement waived will create two classes of citizens. One will be the kiwi born who will be stuck with extra requirements for residency past the age of 50 and must come back home from whereever they are if they want to be eligible and one that is privileged with not having to do that if they are from Niue, Tokelau or the Cook Islands.
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:03am
    - Nukuleka
      
      And why have the MSM not picked up on this very obvious discrepancy?
      
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      March 9, 2018 11:48am
- Harkman
  
  Didn’t Winston used to object to foreigners getting NZ Super?
  
  For all Winston’s objections to rich Chinese bringing mum out to NZ (which I don’t really support). Even though they maybe paying a boat load of taxes, he showed what a colossal hypocritical f__khead he is by allowing people not even in NZ, paying any form of tax, to get NZ Super. What a phoney.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:03am
- GazzaW
  
  I think you will find Captain that they have to have worked in NZ for ten years to qualify.
  
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  March 9, 2018 6:02pm
holysheet

Cindy, on her recent trip, found herself shipwrecked and stuck on a island. But to her luck, she found a lamp with a genie inside. “I can grant you three wishes,” said the genie. First Cindy wished for some food and water. Second, she wished that she was back in New Zealand. Then Cindy said, “Lastly, I wish for every Kiwi to be happy!”
POOF!! Cindy was back on the island.
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March 9, 2018 8:01am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I find a lamp on Torbay beach.
  
  Out comes the obligatory genie and the three wishes but with the rider that whatever wish the genie grants for me, the person I detest the most will get tenfold.
  
  I go for the $10m and Winston gets a $100m
  
  I go for the big house overlooking looking the sea with garages full of cars and nubile blondes in the living rooms (what for I am sure I might remember assuming I can find my glasses or remember where I put them)
  
  The third is tricky; I pump for a small heart attack . . . . . .
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:27am
igm

Why are taxpayers paying for Gay Clarkford to swan around the islands with Crockery. He is not a spouse, he may be living with an illegitimate PM, he may be father of her illegitimate sprog, but that does not entitle him to leech like a pig off taxpayers.
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March 9, 2018 8:04am
- Paulus
  
  I assume that the geriatric is accompanied by his Partner to help keep him awake.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:22am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    The geriatric’s partner used to have a career of her own. Did she chuck it in when she applied for the pension?
    Gaylord on the other hand, doesn’t appear to have anything useful to fill his days so he carries Cindy’s handbag.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:30am
    - igm
      
      No the handbag is his!
      
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      March 9, 2018 8:35am
      - KKKKatee
        
        Correction. HE is the PM’S MANBAG!
        
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        March 9, 2018 8:06pm
    - KiWombat
      
      I feel sorry for Jan Trotman. She never wanted the political life. Plus the old gypsy lady told her WeeWinnie would be dead by now !
      
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      March 9, 2018 8:48am
    - Colville
      
      You are utterly deluded if you dont think Gaylord makes a bundle.
      He is a TV fishing guy… all that state milion$$ that gets poured into bullshit programs…. what bureaucrat is going to refuse a funding application from the PMs “hubby” ?
      
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      March 9, 2018 8:55am
      - Harkman
        
        “what bureaucrat is going to refuse a funding application from the PMs “hubby” ?”
        
        Did somebody say Peter Davis?
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:07am
      - marcw
        
        So why is he filming for his fishing program while he is on a taxpayer sponsored overseas visit? Didn’t Judith Collins get criticised for having just a ‘cup of tea’ with her husband’s business in China – while on a taxpayer sponsored trip to China? Fairs fair, we will hear lots of criticism of Jacinda Mae since her partner is working while she is there … crickets …
        
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        March 9, 2018 4:20pm
  - GazzaW
    
    …….and pour him a couple of fingers of Chivas at the end of another wearying day.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:37am
    - Colville
      
      I think you would be pouring yourself a couple of fingers out of a new bottle then handing the bottle over!
      
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      March 9, 2018 8:56am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        And a crisp new $100 note, I hear?
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:11am
  - lifesgood
    
    Oh, but Winnie needs her, you know, drunk driving and all that.
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:09am
- sooty
  
  Remember Labours gay Chris Carter use to swan around the world with his gay mate in tow, getting massages and flowers galore. Hay it’s the lefts sense of entitlement. One law for me and another for thee!
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:24am
  - igm
    
    Was his husband not a headmaster who was a real unionised activist?
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:43am
    - lifesgood
      
      I cannot get my head around a man with a husband.
      
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      March 9, 2018 11:10am
      - GazzaW
        
        Head being the figurative terminology. 😉
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:35am
    - Paulus
      
      And they were great friends of Peter Davis when he was in Christchurch before being moved to Auckland Uni.
      
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      March 9, 2018 2:22pm
      - stigie
        
        Yea and i can just imagine the debauched orgies !~
        
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        March 9, 2018 2:44pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Yes but evidently the school ran quite well without him – it usually had to because he was off having champagne room service with Carter.
      
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      March 9, 2018 10:31pm
  - GazzaW
    
    I think that it was over on WO (could even have been the Herald when it was still a real newspaper) that they published the some of receipts obtained via the OIA from one of Carter’s junkets with his mate. The champagne room service breakfast for two at the Oriental Hotel (Bangkok’s very finest hotel) really got me. A classic example of elitist socialism more commonly called entitlitis.
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:09am
- KiWombat
  
  He’s just there to protect his patch – particularly if there are any more of those late night negotiations behind closed doors !
  
  The gates are down, the lights are flashing but the train she ain’t coming !
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:25am
- peterwn
  
  If a Prime Minister’s wife would normally be entitled to join her husband on such a trip, then there is no case to question Jacinda’s travel arrangements. in this modern day and age formal marriage is no longer a requirement to confirm a partnership. Referring to Jacinda’s forthcoming baby as an ‘illegitimate sprog’ is to say the least completely tasteless in today’s world. The barbaric practice of branding such children ‘illegitimate’ (including the use of the term on birth certificates) has thankfully long since ceased. All children have equal rights regardless of the circumstances of conception and to discriminate against particular children on this basis is an affront to their human rights.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:25am
  - KiWombat
    
    True peter, but the “circumstances of conception” have been wheeled out for all to view (and read) on this one – like no other !
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:29am
    - Milhous
      
      there are many reasons to be highly critical of Ardern. Her child, partner and teeth are not one of them
      
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      March 9, 2018 8:35am
      - igm
        
        Why was this not applied to John Key and his family? Maybe it is different when applied to leeching left. MSM and commenters gave JK and his family hell.
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:16am
      - marcw
        
        Maybe she will be happy when someone writes a song about the baby being raped then?
        
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        March 9, 2018 4:24pm
    - peterwn
      
      This is still no excuse for referring to the forthcoming child as an ‘illegitimate’ sprog. I do not know of your circumstances but how would you like it if you were called ‘illegitimate’ or if you were asked about this at a job interview?
      
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      March 9, 2018 8:38am
      - G152
        
        The ‘illegitimate’ is not a claim it is a fact.
        We still speak English
        a quick perusal of any dictionary will demonstrate that ‘illegitimate’ means what its always meant
        
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        March 9, 2018 8:44am
      - peterwn
        
        G152 – re your comment. It is in extremely bad taste to refer in public in a derogatory manner to a person’s deformity or other aspect beyond their control. This is even if the word concerned is in the dictionary.
        
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        March 9, 2018 8:50am
      - igm
        
        I always checked when employing to see if they were a good bastard or not. By the way Crockery will foal out of wedlock so what is the by-product?
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:49am
      - stephieboy
        
        The Status of Children Act S3 1965 removed the term illegitimacy and conferred children born out of wedlock the sane rights and stuff as those born in wedlock .
        
        2018 is not 1818 or 1918 etc !
        
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        March 9, 2018 10:42am
  - KevOB
    
    The propriety still remains.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:35am
  - igm
    
    Well then shall it be called a b . . . . . . d?
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:38am
    - KiWombat
      
      IGM my dictionary includes the following definitions:-
      
      “inferior thing: something that is inferior, debased, or of questionable or mixed origin (sometimes considered offensive)
      Encarta ® World English Dictionary © ”
      
      Somewhat appropriate – don’t you think?
      
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      March 9, 2018 8:54am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        No
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:13am
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        Are we talking about the col? Or the PM here?
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:38am
  - Kimbo
    
    Haters gonna hate. And sadly, KB attracts its share of haters.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:53am
    - SGA
      
      It’s been sort of interesting. In the years that I’ve been on Kiwiblog, National was government most of the time. Regular “reports” of goings on at the Standard (don’t go there myself) documented what a nasty, petty, trivial group of people they were. Although KB was never a bastion of good will to all, lately it’s been dire. Seems it wasn’t so much a left/right thing as a govt/oppo thing, I guess.
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:13am
      - Kimbo
        
        Yep. Something in the water this morning. And the topic of Islam has barely figured! ??
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:15am
      - SGA
        
        Candy man, candy man, …
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:20am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      OK, I’ll bite. I think, Kimbo, as you and I seem to take a liberal stance on life partners and children, we won’t find islam very accepting.
      
      The people here going on about ‘illegitimacy’ remind me a bit too much of islamists right now.
      
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      March 9, 2018 11:41am
      - Kimbo
        
        I concur, although I doubt I would cohabitate with someone outside of marriage myself. But to me it is irrelevant,
        when it comes to assessing Ardern’s competence (there are plenty of relevant other factors to decide she is incompetent!). Better to be ruled by a competent Turk than an incompetent Christian prince (Martin Luther, alleged).
        
        But, yes, if you do think the legal status of Ardern’s relationship with her partner is an issue, good luck to you. Your call, and yes,it invites scrutiny of the one who makes that judgement But then good luck again persuading someone as deluded and lacking in self critique as Chuck Bird, or a facist like Rodney Randell that their values, attitudes and attempts to restrict the lawful and legitimate practice of others are also that of conservative Muslims!
        
        Oh, yes, and due to changes in legislation concerning marriage and parental responsibility, the use of the terms “bastard” and “illegitimate” to describe offspring are nowarchaic. The meaning and applicability of words are subject to change, and do go out of fashion, e.g., “gay”.
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:57am
  - Duxton
    
    Yes, I agree that the term ‘illegitimate sprog’ is inappropriate. A sprog is an engine part.
    
    I prefer the term ‘bastard’.
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:22am
    - peterwn
      
      The primary meaning of ‘sprog’ is child and has derogatory or affectionate implications depending on context. It is the term ‘illegitimate’ with respect to a child or person that is highly objectionable.
      Other meanings of ‘sprog’ such as a new military recruit are derived from this. With respect to an engine part, it must be of very limited use as Google sheds no light on what sort of engine part.
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:40am
      - lifesgood
        
        I think you’ve made your point peterwn.
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:13am
    - stephieboy
      
      Duxton ,
      
      As I just posted above ,
      
      The Status of Children Act S3 1965 removed the term illegitimacy and conferred children born out of wedlock the sane rights and stuff as those born in wedlock .
      
      2018 is not 1818 or 1918 etc !
      
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      March 9, 2018 10:45am
  - Nukuleka
    
    Oh we consider ourselves well and truly told off peterkins for having such old-fashioned untrendy views of marriage and parenthood. Sadly for progressives like you most of the rest of the world still considers it in the child’s best interests that its parents have made a commitment through marriage and that it is simply tasteless to have an unmarried mother to be representing us as PM. What a role model for young girls: ‘If the PM can be an unmarried mother and live off the state then why can’t I?’
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:55am
    - Batman
      
      “marriage” has nothing to do with it. Having TWO parents has everything to do with it.
      
      A child can be raised perfectly well without their parents needing to be married. Saying otherwise is completely fanciful.
      
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      March 9, 2018 1:37pm
- oldpark
  
  Peters has his defacto with him as well. Wonder who will pay.Would it be the mysterious Spencer Trust,made famous when Owen Glenn said he give the self appointed NZ Dictator Peters $100,000. Of course who can ever forget the big NO! Nuff said.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:30am
  - peterwn
    
    Again, this depends on the usual rules governing Cabinet Ministers’ travel expenses. The ‘worst’ scenario would be the partner’s marginal expenses would need to be met privately and in this case would be little more than meals. What one thinks of the Minister does not come into it.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:45am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  igm , small wonder that outside the alt right bubble chamber on KB nobody out there in the real world cares or listens .
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:42am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Sqwawk!
    
    Alt-right Sqwawk!
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:50am
  - Inandout
    
    This is your belief stephie, so keep off the Cindy case because it makes you a hypocrite.
    
    ‘Young Muslim men and women are strongly encouraged to marry as soon as possible, since the family is recognized as the foundation of Islamic society. … A large majority of Islamic marriages are arranged marriages in which the parents or guardians select appropriate matrimonial mates for their offspring’.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:50am
    - Paulus
      
      Many Muslim marriages are arranged – often with the man’s sister, cousin or other relative with the need to procreate – nothing else.
      More girl babies the better fodder for the future.
      Look at the UK as an example the Muslim birth rate is four times higher than non Muslims.
      Gadaffi made it quite clear that Muslims will control Europe without firing a shot.
      
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      March 9, 2018 2:29pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    If nobody outside the KB bubble chamber cares about the ravings of those of us inside the bubble, and nobody inside the bubble cares about your ravings… does that mean Stephie-Mute is the proverbial tree in the forest?
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:57am
    - GazzaW
      
      He and Muttonhead are now the only two trolls of any significance left on KB. You’re an endangered species stephie so behave ourself.
      
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      March 9, 2018 12:50pm
  - VicParking
    
    Morning Stephie. I listen, and I also read with disgust your ‘Alt left’ bubble that when it bursts smells like a trolls goats fart. ??
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:58am
  - thedavincimode
    
    So, here I am wondering what’s on now that the Headmaster has put out the trash for a bit … and straightaway … budgie brain hops up to the plate to make his budgie brain size contribution: … chirrup chirrup … alt right … alt right … chirrup …
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:31am
- Chris R
  
  igm: I had never done the analysis but you’re right! NZ has an illegitimate PM who is having an illegitimate child while in an illegitimate relationship. She really is the real thing when it comes to a life lived on falsehood.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:23am
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout , source ? I think you’ll find the same in India with Hindus , Jains etc and many, many other Non Muslim societies ,
    
    Your Point ?
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:49am
  - stephieboy
    
    Chris R, reality check .This the 21st century not the 19th !
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:50am
    - realityczech
      
      stupidboy, yes it is the 21st century, though you need to let your black friends know as they are still living in the stone age and engaging in brutal tribal warfare.
      
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      March 9, 2018 11:11am
      - Chris R
        
        Czech: Don’t worry, he’s just proving he has learned to tell the time…next thing he’ll be tying shoe-laces and riding a trike.
        
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        March 9, 2018 12:57pm
      - lifesgood
        
        “this is the 21st century” is that a way of excusing illegitimate behaviour? What makes you think people in the 21st century are any better than people in the past? Is immorality clever and modern?
        
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        March 9, 2018 1:54pm
- Komata
  
  igm
  
  You’re not supposed to notice such things, let alone coment on them; it will offend / upset the ‘Mother of the nation’s Baby’ ; the MSM says so…
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:21am
Maxx

The craziness of the ban on foreign house buys continues.

Following on from reports of how many additional people the OIO is going to have to employ (not including the various people that support those people (HR, Managers, etc.) those 4700 people, that comes out at a staggering figure of $354,455,200 per year, or $3.5b over 10 years not including pay raises, which we know will be generous, and we all know based on Labours history, this will be the minimum of the spending!

Why not give it to NZ citizens who are first home buyers (about $35k each for the 100,000 homes we’re “short”, which on top of the $20k home start grant, and the money that they have saved in their KiwiSaver (if they don’t have any money saved, they have no business buying a house!) would put most people in a good position to buy a first house.

Have conditions that it can only be used to purchase a new home, and if the property is sold in the first 2 years, the Government has first claim on the $35k.
I’m sure there are many things wrong with this, but overall a simpler approach that just lets people get on with things rather than forming a whole lot of focus groups and committees, and doesn’t fuck the market.

At the very least, questions should be asked about where the $350 million will come from to fun extra staff.
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March 9, 2018 8:06am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Grant Robertson’s still looking. He says that Stephen Joyce mentioned a hole somewhere that had about 11 billion dollars in it, so he’s been running around Parliament with a shovel!
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:10am
  - sooty
    
    Alf’s busy running around him filling it in.
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:29am
- KiWombat
  
  It won’t be their problem to deal with Max – they’ll be long gone well before then.
  
  Then we can return to life with a modicum of common sense and stability !
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:13am
- Chris R
  
  The “craziness” of this ridiculous idea (I won’t grace it with the label of “policy”) was exhibited in technicolor this morning when the mentally deficient Twyford tried to explain it to Mike Hosking. All he achieved was self-ridicule and an admission that he and David Parker do not agree on the scope of this unfortunate foray into a swamp of inconsistencies, financial unreality and xenophobia. The CoL are stupid, frighteningly stupid. They’ll continue with this idiocy in the face of sober criticism from many dispassionate analysts. I am very despondent about what they are doing to NZ.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:14am
  - KiWombat
    
    Twitford is a glowing example of stupidity not being confined to just one sex !
    
    He and Curran are like peas in a pod
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:32am
    - Inandout
      
      But extremely well paid peas in a pod. Labour Ministers are a joke, comparable to an African dictatorship.
      
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      March 9, 2018 8:55am
- fernglas
  
  I thought the 4700 figure was the number of future approvals, not staff.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:01am
Captain Mainwaring

Have I got this right?
The wharfies in Lyttleton announce that they’re going on strike. The Port company tells the shipping companies to send their ships somewhere else as they won’t be able to be worked. Then the wharfies say that it’s OK now, we won’t go on strike after all and will report for work. The Port company says you can turn up for work if you like but you won’t get paid because you said you’d be on strike so there’s no work as the ships won’t be there.
Is this the NZ of the future under the Union-led CoL?
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March 9, 2018 8:09am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  no strikes on my watch and I never tell lies….
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:18am
  - sooty
    
    Secret Cindy!
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:25am
  - KKKKatee
    
    Dad’s a policeman, remember and a Mormon. She would have been brought up to tell the truth and the whole truth and nothing but the truth under the circumstances.
    So, what went wrong?
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:12pm
- G152
  
  Keep the port shutdown and sack the shirkers.
  No doubt Cindy will look after them
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:47am
- GazzaW
  
  ….and what were the Nurses union and the Meatworkers union doing there? This is all too frighteningly familiar.
  
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  March 9, 2018 1:44pm
  - Paulus
    
    Teachers 14% claim has gone quiet – not their turn yet !
    
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    March 9, 2018 2:31pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      TV One laying the ground work for teachers on the 6pm bulletin. More sick leave, shopping days, and a pay increase of course.
      
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      March 9, 2018 6:37pm
- lifesgood
  
  Great work by Lyttelton Port Co.
  
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  March 9, 2018 1:56pm
oldpark

The People of Hawke’s Bay who have had their homes flooded in the last twenty four hours with such disastrous storm damage will rest easy that help will be at hand.
After all in the last week. Self appointed Dictator of NZ Peters and his cabal of riff raff have been cruising the Pacific Islands handing out huge amounts of NZs taxpayers money.,willy nilly to the tune of $36,000,000 just for openers..
Hawke’s Bay home owners will surely get the same treatment,or will they . Maybe the same result that the people of NZs west coast got over the damage from Cyclone Gita?Pardon.
Dont hold you’re breath NZs you are not the Pacific.
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March 9, 2018 8:14am
- waikatogirl
  
  Has Faafoi been down to see the destruction to Golden Bay caused by Cyclone Gita yet?
  
  Cindy, too much swanning around the Pacific having family reunions when there is disaster on your own doorstep.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:23am
  - KiWombat
    
    He did a quick helicopter stop about 2 weeks ago WG.
    
    Didn’t hand out any cash though, not even a pallett full of shovels !
    
    Shane needs them all to plant trees !
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:36am
- stephieboy
  
  old park , NZ Foreign Affairs and Trade aid to overseas countries 2015/16,
  
  https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/aid-and-development/our-approach-to-aid/where-our-funding-goes/our-planned-aid-expenditure/
  
  As you will see money has not been handled out willy nilly including the 36 million.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:49am
  - realityczech
    
    Why did we give them anything when we have problems at home we can’t find the money to fix?
    
    We owe them nothing.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:56am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      That money could have bought so many more cars for the people in poviddy to live in.
      
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      March 9, 2018 11:34am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    So, if this money has all been handed out under due process, why does Princess Pearly-Whites have to island hop from pillar to post to make the bloody announcements? It’s a taxpayer funded election bribe, no more, no less.
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:01am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Maybe the Esk Valley residents and businesses could ask Hastings District and HB Regional Councils what they do with the rates they charge for flood protection in the area?
  
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  March 9, 2018 6:39pm
artemisia

Kiwibuild. CoreLogic and Infometrics both casting doubt on Kiwibuild to provide affordable housing. In each case the costings in the Housing Stocktake Report are seriously called into question by folk who actually know the numbers. And wait, there’s more – like there is no way Kiwibuild is a game changer.

Shamubeel Eauqub – your time to justify your numbers is now. You are the expert we are told. Let us see your rebuttal of their numbers.
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March 9, 2018 8:15am
- VicParking
  
  “I can take their advice but I dont have to believe it”
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:43am
- KevOB
  
  Shamubeel Eauqub I believe has gone over to the other side. Economists are like QC’s: you get an agreeable opinion.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:44am
- Harkman
  
  Shamubeel Eauqub is like the South Park character (I have teenage nephews) ‘Token Black.’ Our media needs a consultant of a different colour to tick certain boxes so the nightly news appears “more diverse” or “multi-cultural.” Don’t actually pay attention to what he says, because it’s all bullshit. Actually he is turning into a “rent-an-economist”, just like Ganesh Nana.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:16am
Humble Capitalist

All these people that pay bugger all or no tax in NZ then become entitled to our super. Whats the bet that when my generation get to retirement age we are told `all of that Kiwisaver that you’ve slogged your guts out and sacrificed saving for….well that’s it…you don’t qualify for super.’
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March 9, 2018 8:15am
- cmm
  
  Remember Winnie wanted to nationalise all the Kiwisaver money.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:22am
- igm
  
  Don’t forget those of Islam, they are getting more than anyone else in NZ. These bogus refugees are taking taxpayers for millions, ably supported by media, Labour/Greens, and usual leeches.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:28am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    igm,
    
    “Don’t forget those of Islam, they are getting more than anyone else in NZ.”
    
    Evidence ?
    
    Don’t make stuff up !
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:52am
    - simpleton1
      
      Living in Auckland
      Only came to our attention by diy hammer job.
      A lovely family of husband with 2 wives 5 kids and more on the way.
      No extra tax rebates, children benefits etc.??
      Hammer a wife, then hugs.
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11787603
      
      Out of jail by now, so he can court another woman to be his 3rd wife, all made easy to keep by benefits.
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:13am
      - igm
        
        That is to be accepted . . . the Labour way.
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:18am
      - simpleton1
        
        It used to be a serial one of ~~wives~~ partners one at a time.
        All parties now accept 2+ wives/partners
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:29am
      - stephieboy
        
        igm , the Labour way ?
        
        umm …the report was dated 24/01 / 2017
        
        LOL!
        
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        March 9, 2018 10:55am
    - igm
      
      What percentage of working age Muslims are employed . . . end of argument?
      
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      March 9, 2018 10:20am
      - stephieboy
        
        igm , tell us based on your own researches ?
        
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        March 9, 2018 10:56am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    As usual stephie gets the automatic downticks he has come to deserve, but actually for once this is a reasonable point. What is your evidence that Muslims are getting more than anyone else in NZ, what is your evidence that they are bogus refugees?
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:07am
    - Harkman
      
      Albert you ask a fair question. That night that Key folded to the relentless pressure to bring in more refugees including Syrians, Key sent a clear message that this would cost an extra $60-80m p.a. then three news stories later on One News Pharmac announced it wouldn’t be funding Keytruda (though now they have) because it was going to cost $60-80m p.a.
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:24am
  - suzieq
    
    Time we told refugees with more than two children [and Kiwi beneficiaries with more than two] that we don’t hand over taxpayers’ money in the form of a welfare benefit to the parent(s) for more than two. After the second child, the money follows the kid, not the parent. Refugees could be helped financially for their entire brood for, say, two years while they settle in but be made to understand that, after that time, they’re expected to be in work providing for their own. And if they’re not, any welfare money follows the kid(s) and isn’t paid to the parents. We’re too bloody soft.
    
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    March 9, 2018 4:32pm
- KiWombat
  
  Looks like the CoL are trying to make us move out in order to receive the pension.
  
  Raratonga looks nice !
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:39am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    I’d be happy to live in Raro while getting my pension! Love the place. Hospital care is a little bit less than what would be expected though, so if you’re looking for a nice little niche market to set up in to, can I recommend a regular air ambulance service between Avarua and Auckland!
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:03am
- kowtow
  
  Yesterday , as part of “celebrating” International People with Vaginas Day , Red Radio played a piece with the Little Princess saying said day in her opinion was about equality and financial independance . That on the same day the gubmint is denying pensioners what they have worked and paid for.
  
  ‘A group of pensioners receiving little or no superannuation because their partners receive overseas pensions say their human rights have been breached.
  
  The policy robs pensioners of their independence and puts them at risk of financial abuse, one plaintiff says.’
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12006627
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:23am
Paulus

How wonderdful to see our media praising the visit of our Middle Aged Pregnant politicia, appointed by a geriatric old fool being feted in the Pacific islands ? Fiji ?.
I am sure that as an elderly heterosexual male like me with $35,000,000 in my pocket I could soon be welcomed anywhere in the Islands that I wanted.
No wonder the various Premiers were smiling seeing how much more they could screw from the Bucktooth Princess.
This is not the normal bouquet annually give to support the economies but a Special Cyclone clear up.
How much more will be given for the South and west Auckland votes after then next cyclone.
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March 9, 2018 8:19am
- DigNap15
  
  I’d like to tie aid in the islands and via dpb to birth control.
  No birth control, no aid.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:41am
  - igm
    
    Also apply these controls to bogus refugees who are breeding like rabbits, and that is with more than one concubine. They are rorting us good and proper.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:48am
  - stephieboy
    
    DiNap15 , why not go the whole hog and sterilise the lot ?
    
    Code for Eugenics !
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:54am
    - Inandout
      
      UK health officials are shocked at the number of Muslims who produce defective offspring as a result of cousins marrying. How say stephie about sterilising to save this drain on British health?
      
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394119/Its-time-confront-taboo-First-cousin-marriages-Muslim-communities-putting-hundreds-children-risk.html
      
      Or, as you hate the dailymail:
      
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/children/11723308/First-cousin-marriages-in-Pakistani-communities-leading-to-appalling-disabilities-among-children.html
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:08am
      - Harkman
        
        I had Muslim neighbours, lovely people. But they couldn’t have children. They were 1st cousins. Their siblings did marry each other though.?
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:28am
      - stephieboy
        
        The NZ marriage Act forbids marriage between first cousins .
        
        I presume that applies also to UK Marriage laws which our act was I believe modelled on.
        
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        March 9, 2018 10:59am
    - realityczech
      
      “Eugenics ”
      
      No moron – birth control.
      
      We also need to start subjecting Islanders to the exact same immigration requirements as white people have to endure when coming here.
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:09am
      - stephieboy
        
        rc, the reality is that the Cooks for example were former NZ territories that conferred their people the same rights of citizenship as New Zealanders living here .
        
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        March 9, 2018 10:10am
      - realityczech
        
        “former ”
        
        stuuuuupidboy, Time to cut all ties with YT then. We are holding them back with our wacism.
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:12am
- Jaywalk
  
  Cyclone Gita victims in NZ say that funding is a kick in the teeth since they have been ignored and have had no help.
  
  They are also screwing all kiwis over with waiving residency requirements to get NZ super in the islands, kiwis will still have the requirements for residency including 5 years after 50 and must comply while they get to collect the cash without it and only 10 years min residency in NZ. Great kick in the teeth to find you are now a second class citizen who has less rights than a protectorate.
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:20am
DigNap15

Every time super affordability comes up, we will be able to use this!

Lets not forget it!
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March 9, 2018 8:19am
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap15 , it will apply to every NZ Citizen entitled to super regardless of origins
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:12am
Humble Capitalist

Will the member for Cook Islands please be seated! (in first class of course)
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March 9, 2018 8:26am
Shaun the Sheep

Can anyone explain why we have a High Commission in Nuie – population 1600?
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March 9, 2018 8:36am
- KiWombat
  
  It carries about as much stigma as the assistant manager of a small regional shopping mall Shaun !
  
  But with a much higher price tag –
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:41am
- KevOB
  
  It’s to support the Ardern family.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:46am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I think the appointment was made some time ago, so to ascribe it to Ardern’s position would be disingenuous.
    There’s plenty that’s dodgy with this lot without tarring them with more than they deserve.
    
    Someone correct me if I’m wrong please.
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:23am
    - stephieboy
      
      Ross Ardern was appointed in 2014 ,
      
      Ross was a career police officer and for the most part he worked with the Criminal Investigation Branch in the Waikato Policing District.
      
      Ross was seconded to Niue as the Chief of Police from 2005 through to 2009. Aside from policing, his duties there included responsibility for all matters relating to the Immigration portfolio, Emergency Management and the operation of Prison services.
      
      In 2009 Ross was appointed as the New Zealand Police Liaison officer for the South and South West Pacific and was based in Apia, Samoa where he worked from the New Zealand High Commission. During that period Ross was responsible for the building of relationships between pacific policing agencies and the New Zealand Police …”
      
      https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/countries-and-regions/pacific/niue/new-zealand-high-commission/ros-adhern/
      
      Appears well qualified for the position .
      
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      March 9, 2018 10:16am
      - KevOB
        
        Possibly gone troppo.
        
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        March 9, 2018 12:49pm
- VicParking
  
  They have a trough which cant go to waste.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:46am
- Manolo
  
  For no reason whatsoever. It is “tokenism” to please the natives.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:46am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Not to mention a bloody airport which we paid for.
    
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    March 9, 2018 8:58am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  A Grand Pooh-Bah is required to ensure that the colonised are suitably subjugated.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_state
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:07am
- lifesgood
  
  What in the hell does Mr Ardern do all day, apart from lying on the beach, reading, books, swimming and enjoying the odd lemonade (Mormons don’t drink)? Talk about a cushy number!
  
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  March 9, 2018 2:02pm
Manolo

He will never give up:
http://www.greensboro.com/news/us_world/mueller-gathers-evidence-that-seychelles-meeting-was-effort-to-establish/article_073365fa-c7fe-5259-8ed4-e41832550b4c.html

Special counsel Robert Mueller has gathered evidence that a secret meeting in the Seychelles just before the inauguration of Donald Trump was an effort to establish a back channel between the incoming administration and the Kremlin – apparently contradicting statements made to lawmakers by one of its participants, according to people familiar with the matter.
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March 9, 2018 8:45am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  But, but, …
  Hilary said Trump was in on the Ivans interfering in the election.
  Why would he then need to send a secret squirrel to the Seychelles to establish a back channel between the incoming administration and the Kremlin.
  I call bullshit.
  
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  March 9, 2018 6:46pm
Happychappy

Has Winston asked the UN yet if he can go to South Africa to solve their problems yet. Remember he is the Messiah that couldn’t even tell he was overpaid thousands of dollars for his Pension and still can’t be truthful of where the $152,000 Owen Glenn donation was paid to.
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March 9, 2018 8:48am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  He hasn’t fixed NK yet.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:26am
Humble Capitalist

I hear that some African youth gangs are going on a home invasion spree around Melbourne in the last couple of weeks. 9 in the last 16 days or something?
Lets bring more people in that don’t respect or understand our law into NZ – what could possibly go wrong? Plenty of places to house them here too when we double and eventually quadruple the intake (Greens plan)
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March 9, 2018 8:50am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Who is proposing that people who do not qualify for immigration status and are not genuine refugees, should be brought into New Zealand? Citation please
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:11am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    nobody is
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:26am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    No one mention Manus Island.
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:29am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Gosh, who are we to believe that Melbourne has an African crime/gang problem: the Victoria Police Chief Commissioner
  https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/tribal-divisions-delay-african-gang-taskforce/news-story/d70b76a139874d82d1c1993f003a211a
  
  or some anonymous dude deflecting mightily on Wikipedia?
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apex_(gang)
  
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  March 9, 2018 11:44am
DifferentPerspective

Chicken Little Climate Change Lie Beginning to Crumble

Oh dear, those damn facts keep on letting the narrative down.

We live in an age of lies!

Cui bono?
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March 9, 2018 8:59am
- stephieboy
  
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  DP,
  
  These 20 Nobel Laureates and other scientists gathering at Lindau , Germany think differently about climate change
  
  For example ,
  
  “It is clear now that most scientists who talk about climate change in this fashion [claiming that it is not caused by humans] know virtually nothing about climate change.”—Mario J. Molina, 1995 chemistry laureate, on the 3% of scientists who reject the notion of anthropogenic climate change.”
  
  Credit: Christian Flemming/Lindau Nobel Laureate Meetings
  
  https://cen.acs.org/articles/95/i31/Nobel-laureates-talking.html
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:09am
  - realityczech
    
    Only people willing to lie about climate change are invited into the echo chamber stuuuuuupid.
    
    Nobel Prizes are a joke and are given out for such things as – having a black father.
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:12am
    - stephieboy
      
      rc , your crazy , same sample of Nobel Laureates from my link .
      
      “What I would like to see: artificial photosynthesis, sodium[-ion] batteries, understanding brain chemistry in molecular detail in real time to determine what we are.”—Richard R. Schrock, 2005 chemistry laureate, during a panel discussion of “game changers” in chemistry.
      
      “When you do basic research as a chemist, it is highly satisfying when that chemistry is finally used.”—Jean-Marie Lehn, 1987 chemistry laureate, on the use of biocompatible polymer implants by medical device firm Xeltis. Lehn is on the firm’s scientific advisory board, and the polymers are based on his earlier work
      
      “Beware when Nobel laureates say something cannot be done.”—William E. Moerner, 2014 chemistry laureate, referring to a prediction by 1933 physics laureate Erwin Schrödinger that single-molecule analysis could never be undertaken. Moerner won the 2014 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for discoveries associated with the study of single molecules.
      
      There is a obviously a rich vein of anti science thinking among our many alt righers
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:38am
      - realityczech
        
        Ignorant black warlord – Obama
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:41am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Anti-science thinking eh
        
        “There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.”
        
        Oh wait! Damn! That doesn’t fit your narrative does it?
        
        Well here is 30k plus US scientists who have reached “consensus” that the consensus is nonsense. Given the BS that there is “97% consensus” among scientists that AGW is real – how about you show me your list of 1 million US scientists who are making up the “consensus”?
        
        Put up or shut up????
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:25am
      - realityczech
        
        “consensus”
        
        The only “consensus” is that you will be destroyed professionally and personally if you dare to challenge those profiting from climate hysteria.
        
        It is not a “consensus” if you are not allowed to say anything else. That is not how science works.
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:44am
    - KevOB
      
      The 97% was derived by a “social scientist” by rejecting titles of papers that didn’t fit his opinions. His work has been well rejected.
      
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      March 9, 2018 12:54pm
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Translation of SB nonsense:
    
    “Scientists (who have careers that are built upon AGW lies and who will be disgraced when the whole house of cards comes tumbling down) reach consensus that they must continue to lie in unison”
    
    Meanwhile a mini ice-age is approaching with much of the Northern hemisphere experiencing unprecedented cold and epic snow storms .. but the Chicken Little Climate zealots persist in insisting we’re heading towards the hellfire and damnation of GW.
    
    Up is down and cold is in actual fact hot is cold! – you just gotta have Faith eh SB?
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:18am
    - Brigitte
      
      What part of the word “global” are you having difficulty with. Yes, it’s cold in Europe at the moment (and the US Eastern seabord not so long ago) but all along the world is simmering – http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/DailySummary/#t2anom
      
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      March 9, 2018 11:37am
    - realityczech
      
      Ice age in the North and record ice levels building up in the Antarctic.
      
      Meanwhile at home glaciers are advancing:
      
      Explaining New Zealand’s “unusual” growing glaciers
      
      The research, carried out by scientists from Victoria University of Wellington and the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA), was published today in scientific journal Nature Communications.
      
      At least 58 New Zealand glaciers advanced between 1983 and 2008, with Franz Josef Glacier (Kā Roimata o Hine Hukatere) advancing nearly continuously during this time.
      
      https://www.victoria.ac.nz/news/2017/02/explaining-new-zealands-unusual-growing-glaciers
      
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      March 9, 2018 11:48am
      - Brigitte
        
        Yes, but do note that there are over 3,000 glaciers in NZ so it’s a small proportion. Looks like there will be further overall loss when this years aerial survey is completed: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12008908
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:55am
      - realityczech
        
        Brigitte, oh so climate warming happens in random spots. One glacier heats up and in the next valley its cooling down. Like magic or something?
        
        Meanwhile we can see the glaciers advancing with our own eyes. Just as they are in the North.
        
        Since measurements began in 1895, Alaska’s Hubbard Glacier has been thickening and steadily advancing into Disenchantment Bay.
        
        https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85900
        
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        March 9, 2018 12:43pm
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Brigitte – but, but, but…..
        
        But the Turin Shroud? But the weeping statue? But, but, but
        
        There is only warming if you take the “adusted” records of temperature as gospel and you believe that the only important data relates to post 1980.
        And you ignore that over the eras CO2 has been at much higher levels (up to 7000 ppm, cf the 400ppm currently) without the runaway temperature catastrophe alarmists preach about. Also you have to ignore that all the science is flawed and the models don’t actually model the global temperature change.
        
        If you ignore all those and any other facts that don’t fit with the Chicken Little Climate alarmism religion – then I see your point.
        
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        March 9, 2018 2:02pm
stephieboy

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Humble Capitalist,

“Lets bring more people in that don’t respect or understand our law into NZ”??

We don’t and most do respect and understand our laws in NZ .
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March 9, 2018 9:00am
- realityczech
  
  stupidboy, Blacks are far more likely to commit violence and property crime. Go to Africa and see for yourself.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:04am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Why does he need to go to Africa to see that? According to you NZ is already awash with these hateful, violent people, so the evidence should be right here in front of Stephie’s eyes – and it shouldn’t be difficult for you to cite it.
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:09am
    - realityczech
      
      “and it shouldn’t be difficult for you to cite it”
      
      Or for you to google it your self. Don’t forget to share the stories now will you. You will find plenty from around the world in those countries silly enough to allow lots of blacks in.
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:17am
  - stephieboy
    
    rc , talking about immigrants and refugees coming to NZ not the racist lens you view Africa through !
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:11am
    - realityczech
      
      Africa is racist. The blacks treat whites a lot less kindly than we treat them.
      
      If you want to protest racism then go to South Africa and protect the white minority instead of sitting here in a tolerant prosperous white country talking shit.
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:15am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Missed and upticked you by mistake SB!
      Hope it’s not going to be a day of mis-steps for me!!
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:15am
      - Harkman
        
        Don’t ya hate it when that happens? You try clicking the thumbs down button 20-30 times and nothing, then somehow the uptick gets hit and it is confirmed. But don’t worry I made up for you ?
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:36am
      - VicParking
        
        I have your back, good down tick from me and uptick for you
        
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        March 9, 2018 10:12am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Stephie – have a look at the crime ratio of certain refugee nationality groups in Melbourne vs. crime ratio of general population as an example. You will find that some community groups are greatly over represented in home invasions, aggravated robbery and car thefts.
  We are a few years behind Australia but if we continue down our path this is what I believe will happen in NZ.
  To get the best out of our of Kiwibuild and to ease pressure on our housing crisis we should adapt the Japanese refugee policy for a while. If we find its not working for us we can always open the doors again so they can get straight off the plane to the front of the queue for a house ahead of the Kiwis living in cars.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:15am
  - artemisia
    
    We already have our homegrown community group overrepresented in the statistics, and not in a good way.
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:42am
MCos

“Chinese aid comes to Tonga with no strings attached.”
So they say.
“Chinese President Xi Jinping held talks in Beijing with Tonga’s King Tupou VI Thursday, and they agreed to further promote the strategic partnership between China and Tonga.”
March 1, 2018

http://kanivatonga.nz/2018/03/china-aid-to-tonga-comes-with-no-string-attached-chinese-president-told-king/
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March 9, 2018 9:01am
- DigNap15
  
  China would like some military bases in the Southern Pacific and some new fishing grounds.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:16am
- VicParking
  
  So while Cindy was chatting to Chief number three the top man, the prime Minister and the number two were in China talking to a real world leader. How Ironic
  How much did NZ give? We will add three 000’s
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:15am
  - MCos
    
    You’re missing the point somewhat. NZ & Australia make substantial aid contributions to islands such as Tonga because we have longstanding ties to these countries and if we didn’t either someone else would gratefully fill the vacuum or we would be swamped with refugees.
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:35am
doggone7

Another day for the magnifying glass to be on the Pacific Island doings.

For years New Zealand has supported the Pacific Islands but all of a sudden it’s a such a big deal that Mike Hosking wants to know what the return is for us.

Well Mike, did you give a flying fuck what was in it for us over the years? Say the $790m in 2012-14?
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March 9, 2018 9:02am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “For years New Zealand has supported the Pacific Islands …”
  
  I get that, but what have the Pacific Islands done for New Zealand? (Apart from not allowing communist powers to set up naval bases in the Pacific during the Cold War.)
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:06am
  - Manolo
    
    SFA is the answer to your question.
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:10am
  - stephieboy
    
    Odakyu-sen , not the populations like Japan nor the mineral and other resources including land masses like Australia or NZ .
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:13am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Expecting anything is not the basis of our relationship with the PI’s. ?
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:17am
    - stephieboy
      
      waikatogirl , I believe I can confidently assert that the South Pacific Islands are not expecting say plush BMWs, Audis Ski Jets , Luxury launches , Rolexes and the such like .
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:24am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        So you haven’t been to Tonga then?
        
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        March 9, 2018 7:08pm
  - realityczech
    
    “what have the Pacific Islands done for New Zealand? ”
    
    Enriched our ~~crime statistics~~ culture.
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:18am
    - stephieboy
      
      rc, most have helped enriched our culture and not crime stats !
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:26am
      - Humble Capitalist
        
        Especially the ones that boo the haka in Auckland (rl world cup) when we are the tangata whenua. Imagine if somebody tried doing that in the islands
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:33am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        stephieboy,
        
        “Enrichment” is when you can learn from another culture different ways of thinking about things and doing things.
        
        I am not talking about professional sports or other forms of pop entertainment.
        
        How have the Pacific Island cultures “enriched” NZ culture? Have Pacific Island philosophy, literature, legal principles, cinematography, cuisine or literature influenced their counterparts in NZ?
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:43am
- Kimbo
  
  So let me get this straight. Jacinda Ardern will only go on Mike Hoskings’ radio programme if the questions she is asked relate exclusively to her current visit to the South Pacific
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/an_acting_pm_who_cant_talk_on_anything_the_government_is_doing.html
  
  …but if Hosking does ask some questions about that topic, indeed ones that cut to the heart of our purported relationship that drew our PM and Deputy PM there in the first place
  
  …you are running the whataboutism gambit?! ?
  
  I realise in ztev’s enforced three month absence you may feel the need to fill a gap, but please try harder. This site soo badly needs a better standard of trolls.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:08am
  - doggone7
    
    Let me get this straight. The comment is about Hosking. Aid to the Pacific and what value is serves is of interest to him because Ardern is the PM.
    
    Maybe his interest has been piqued by the selective moronic comments being made by others who also are suddenly grizzling about Pacific aid. They also have not been interested or cared previously.
    
    I apologise for making a rational point. As your response shows, making reasonable points brings down the tone.
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:32am
    - Kimbo
      
      Ok, so you want to double down…
      
      No, your comment was not about Mike Hosking, but rather his editorial comment/questioning occasioned by Jacinda Ardern’s latest visit to the South Pacific, and the money she is granting there. Seems the perfect opportunity (she was wanting publicity for her visit, and hey, the lady loves to “start a conversation”! ?) to ask the questions about the effectiveness for the region, and for us too of our tax payer dollars spent in the region.
      
      And if you had read carefully (he referred to the latest Ardern and Peters-announced spend as a “top up”)
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12009354
      
      …you would have seen that Hosking did reference our historic spending in the region, which by definition includes the last government.
      
      But don’t let the Pavlovian anti-Hosking crusade, KDS, and your determination to play the shell game distract you from the self-deceit you were being rational and reasonable.
      
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      March 9, 2018 9:44am
      - doggone7
        
        There has been criticism of the PM splashing out our money in the Pacific. All of a sudden spending our money in that way is bad, unnecessary and whatever.
        
        Hosking using the opportunity of Ardern’s visit to ask questions is reasonable. Did he use the various times previous PMs visited to do the same? With the same tone? Did he compare those leaders to Santa Claus for the aid doled out?
        
        https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/aid-and-development/our-approach-to-aid/where-our-funding-goes/our-planned-aid-expenditure/
        
        I don’t understand why such a simple observation of reality elicits the childish “needs a better standard of trolls, Ok, so you want to double down…Pavlovian anti-Hosking crusade, KDS …”
        
        So, so sensitive.
        
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        March 9, 2018 10:42am
      - Kimbo
        
        So what you are really disputing is Hosking having an editorial stance, that causes him to select topics of current interest, indeed the only one that the PM will discuss with him at the moment?! So that development by a member of the press now counts as sinister, or Machiavellian by the apologists and supporters of the new governments? Because that’s what your critique amounts to. professional opinion writer has opinion and editorial stance that may correspond, or at least impact at points with current rumblings of discontent among some tax payers. What a pithy, if not telling expose! Or have you forgotten he has praised Ardern too lately?
        
        Or is it only Hoskings’ motives and words that get analysed and deconstructed? Hey, at least Hosking has to come up with something topical and interesting to earn his crust, and if he doesn’t, he loses his job. So that, rather than an overt political agenda is his likely motive. But as you are unlikely to be paid for raising the topic, what’s your agenda?
        
        So so sensitive, indeed. ?
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:01am
    - Happychappy
      
      doggone7 I wouldn’t mind if it they were honest about the reasons and you have to remember that know mater who was in Government they have neglected the Island until it has suited tbeir narritive. Now that China is pouring the money into the Pacific it is suddenly wrong and for Winston the dislike of the Chinnese has pushed them to try and stamp a mark to save his Party. Jones Wedding in the Pacific, donations from major fishing company’s to NZ First all tell you that Peters has alternative motives and is using the Labour Leader to achieve his goal.
      
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      March 9, 2018 10:03am
      - doggone7
        
        Neglected the Islands?
        
        https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/aid-and-development/our-approach-to-aid/where-our-funding-goes/our-planned-aid-expenditure/
        
        Other narratives well suited? Were there alternative motives then too?
        
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        March 9, 2018 10:16am
      - Paulus
        
        China has poured money into the Pacific Islands for 30 years quietly – now more obvious.
        
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        March 9, 2018 2:43pm
  - sooty
    
    Is ztev off on holidays?
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:42am
    - Lance
      
      ztev is in the naughty corner
      Along with gabby
      They both went too far and DPF had had enough
      snigger
      
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      March 9, 2018 10:03am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Did ztev get sidelined again? Damn, I missed it.
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:02am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      We don’t have to endure the moronic comments from either of them for 3 months. Yay!
      We’ve still got muttonhead though.
      And while on the subject, where’s the morris dancer?
      
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      March 9, 2018 10:47am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        I had a look back, and ztev got bounced for making a defamatory accusation against Rod Drury and Xero. DPF id absolutely justified in responding, given that he could become a party to a defamation action as the comment was published on his blog.
        
        But that’s ztev’s modus operandi;sling shit around, in the hope that some sticks, whilst hiding behind his nom-de-plume. I guess we’ll see in June if he has been rehabilitated.
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:55am
  - VicParking
    
    They are trying. Stephie is teaching Goat number one to type.
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:19am
- Lance
  
  Idiot
  FFS… I am sure your eyes are just painted on and your ears plasticine but Cindy and the Drunken Dwarf are spraying around EXTRA cash to the Islands like there is no tomorrow.
  I wouldn’t mind if it was their own cash but it is the taxpayers hard earned money being pissed away for little in return except feelz
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:19am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Perhaps it wasn’t such a photo op before?
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:56am
oldpark

“Commie Chic” Comrade Ardern has just announced with the stroke of a pen that Pacific Islanders will in the future not have to come to NZ to qualify for National NZ Superannuation. It used to be to qualify 5 years residency in NZ from age 50 to qualify.
“Commie Chic” unilatterly has decided to waive that carved in NZ law criteria.
To think that she has changed legislated NZ Law in favour of Pacific Islanders, as against NZs living in NZ who are out of the country more than six months who have their Super Cancelled ,deserves more scrutiny,and a lot of explaining by “Commie Chic” Comrade Ardern.
Starting to look and sound like NZs may have another self appointed Dictator like Peters.
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March 9, 2018 9:08am
- stephieboy
  
  old park , not according to this report ,
  
  “Govt reviews pension rules for Niue and Cook Islands”
  
  The government is looking at its pension rules to see if it can improve access for New Zealanders living in Niue and the Cook Islands…”
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/351958/govt-reviews-pension-rules-for-niue-and-cook-islands
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:18am
  - Jaywalk
    
    The problem is under the Superannuation and Retirement Act 2001, all citizens, born in NZ, permanent residents and those in the islands come under the same criteria for residency. You can check MSD to confirm here – https://www.workandincome.govt.nz/eligibility/seniors/superannuation/superannuation-overview.html and https://www.workandincome.govt.nz/eligibility/seniors/superannuation/cook-islands-niue-and-tokelau-portability.html
    
    or look here – http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2001/0084/117.0/DLM113989.html clauses 8 and 31.
    
    They say “At the moment anyone wanting to access superannuation had to be living in New Zealand for at least five years – despite Niueans being New Zealand citizens.”
    
    Well, yeah, even if you are born here you come under exactly the same criteria. They seem to be assuming the rules are different somehow and we have it easier? More likely Peters is lying or he’s not done his homework as he’s claiming 87,000 have got in in ten years when the Super Act is unequivocal as to the residency requirements.
    
    This creates 2 classes of citizens, one will be the island protectorates whose citizens will have preferential treatment and have only a 10 year residency requirement and the rest, the poor sods born here who will have the 10 year plus the 5 years after 50 requirement. I will become a second class citizen in regards NZ super, having lesser rights than someone born elsewhere in Tokelau, Niue or the Cook Islands.
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:38am
- realityczech
  
  “Islanders will in the future not have to come to NZ to qualify for National NZ Superannuation.”
  
  Great. No doubt it is a reciprocal agreement and we can get Superannuation in the islands, along with top quality free health care etc?
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:21am
  - fernglas
    
    Seems no reason why you shouldn’t take early retirement, get your feet up in the Cooks for 5 years and qualify
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:48am
- waikatogirl
  
  The original press release on super paid to Islanders was put out yesterday by Winston Raymond Peters. Cindy with her huge grin is now being pushed forward as the policy maker.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:21am
- Harkman
  
  So I don’t understand this entirely (years off retirement unless I get a windfall), but I have relatives who in their late 40s and 50s got transferred to Sydney & Melbourne (the UK, US even) with work only to return after 4-8 years and they have all claimed that they have to work for 10 years now. Seems like foreigners are getting a better deal than locals.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:46am
- MCos
  
  This only applies to the Cook Islands, Niue and Tokelau whose people, numbering less than the population of Timaru in total, are citizens of NZ.
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:21am
  - KevOB
    
    What about righting the Samoa injustice that some are New Citizens and others have lost their entitlements?
    
    Are the Cook Islands to be allowed to keep their tax haven status?
    
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    March 9, 2018 1:02pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    And we would prefer them to stay in the islands and not add to the housing issue.
    
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    March 9, 2018 2:55pm
Manolo

Tariff announcement:
https://apnews.com/16376596d71d4ae18ed40447ce8278e9

After a week of hints and uncertainty, President Donald Trump said Thursday he would announce tariffs on imported steel and aluminum but with temporary exemptions for Canada and Mexico as he seeks to revise the North American Free Trade Agreement. He suggested Australia and “other countries” might also be spared, a shift that could soften the international blow amid threats of retaliation by trading partners.
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March 9, 2018 9:13am
- kowtow
  
  I see a spokesit from the EU said the EU would respond in order to protect EU workers and jobs .
  
  Why haven’t the media condemned her populism and red neck nationalism ? When Trump says or does anything to protect American jobs and workers that’s what they call him.
  
  And if the EU really cared about EU workers and jobs , why are they allowing the Block to be flooded with third world migrants who have no lawful or moral claim to be there?
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:33am
- VicParking
  
  What a great negotiator. Tariff all along was for the EU who have double the tariffs on US exports that the US has on UE exports. Also to level the playing field with GuadalajaraLand and TrudeauLand (NAFTA).
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:28am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, curious to know how much you lost on your US share portfolio after the President’s lunacy on tariffs !
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:28am
  - Manolo
    
    @stephieboy: You do no invest expecting to make a quick buck. My objectives are long term growth and capital accumulation. Patience is essential.
    
    The ups and downs of daily trading are not that important. What matters are the markets’ trends.
    
    Even as a devote Muslim, invest your money wisely and see your portfolio grow over the next two decades. The rewards are fabulous.
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:33am
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo, ‘Patience is essential.” ?
      
      You will need it as a disciple of The President .
      
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      March 9, 2018 12:13pm
DigNap15

Leighton is talking about sex offenders.

People are saying that they should be castrated, or locked up for ever.

Leighton says we can’t / don’t do that .

Why not?
What they do affects the victims and the rest of us for a long time.

If we lock them up forever it costs us a fortune.
If we castrate them its only a few hundred dollars.

Give them the choice when they are sentenced.
Be locked up forever, or get castrated.
Then publisice this widely.
And the amount of such crime will soon go down.
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March 9, 2018 9:13am
- stephieboy
  
  DipNap15, Leighton has the capability of understanding that as a Nation we espouse civilised norms and values.
  
  Not your crude barbaric ones !
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:20am
  - Lance
    
    Irony alert
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:21am
  - DigNap15
    
    What is your solution to the problem.
    How to break the cycle?
    
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    March 9, 2018 9:34am
- Kimbo
  
  “All of life is about sex, except sex, which is about power”.
  
  Castration won’t necessarily stop them using objects with which to molest their victims. According to many of the experts, it is a crime of power, rather than, or at least more than lust. Which makes sense, hence they seek out those they can dominate.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:21am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Agreed. Castration (which can be done humanely as chemical castration) won’t stop all sex crimes. Maybe some.
    
    However, locking rapists up for life makes sense for a safe community.
    
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    March 9, 2018 12:11pm
    - Right of way is Way of Right
      
      Speaking from three years of experience, chemical castration is an absolute bitch!
      
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      March 9, 2018 1:50pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=kMcEb_1520519917

Laughing At The Fake Feminists
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March 9, 2018 9:21am
- Kabull
  
  Brilliant!
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:43am
- stephieboy
  
  This comment has the measure of Pat “ rambling “ Condell,
  
  jenva (4214.16) less than a minute ago
  I think Pat has had one too many vids removed on You Tube. He is foaming at the mouth and it’s all women’s fault. One minute he is rambling about feminism then he is rambling on about women taking action in voting (how feminist of them).
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:26am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Do St Albans the Martyr parishioners get a discout to the yoga room Ralph?
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:39am
  - Inandout
    
    We can still hear Pat though, eh stephie? Bloody good show that the internet is a vast area, and it appears Google is under investigation for stupid left wing censorship.
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:47am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Pat is on the side of old-fashioned, liberal feminists: for equal rights, against domestic violence. Pretty straightforward.
    
    And he’s very much against the fake feminists of today that publicly call every compliment ‘harassment’ but are silent about islamist misogyny.
    
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    March 9, 2018 12:14pm
lastmanstanding

Cindy reminds of a young girl whose Daddy has just given her a credit card with no limit and she is on a spending spree.
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March 9, 2018 9:21am
- Manolo
  
  By “Daddy”, you mean the venal Winston Peters, right? 🙂
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:30am
- igm
  
  Lastman: Somewhat akin to Norman Kirk many years ago.
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:14am
  - Inandout
    
    Kirk would have thrown more money the Pacific way if he could have, but the oil crisis got in the way.
    
    ‘From the early to mid-1970s government aid spending increased from $13.3 million to $59.7 million. New Zealand committed itself to the goal of devoting 1% of its gross national income to aid, and achieved 0.52% in 1975. The global oil crises and economic decline slowed growth and for the next 20 years New Zealand aid declined as a proportion of its gross national income’.
    
    $59 million in today’s money is about $680 million.
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:58am
- MCos
  
  You remind me of someone who can’t imagine a woman younger than their granddaughter running the country.
  
  Your non de plume is a bit of a giveaway.
  
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  March 9, 2018 11:42am
- KevOB
  
  She does have the Auditor General watching over public monies. She is going to have to prove she has money voted by Parliament for the purpose proposed. Were such vote items included in the previous National budget currently in force?
  
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  March 9, 2018 1:07pm
dime

do we have a total on what chompers has dished out in the pacific on this trip?
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March 9, 2018 9:48am
Fletch

Tucker Carlson points out that men in the U.S, far from being the dominant “patriarchy”, are doing far worse than women at just about every level.

{sorry for long paste}

Start with the most basic, life and death. The average American man will die five years before the average American woman. One of the reasons for this is addiction. Men are more than twice as likely as women to become alcoholics. They’re also twice as likely to die of a drug OD. In New Hampshire, one of the states hit hardest by the opioid crisis, 73 percent of overdose deaths were men.

But the saddest reason for shortened life spans is suicide. Seventy-seven percent of all suicides in America are committed by men. The overall rate is increasing at a dramatic pace. Between 1997 and 2014, there was a 43 percent rise in suicide deaths among middle-aged American men. The rates are highest among American Indian and white men, who kill themselves at about ten times the rate of Hispanic and black women.

You often hear of America’s incarceration crisis. Well that’s almost exclusively a male problem too. Over 90 percent of inmates are men.

Now these problems are complex, and we know they start young. Relative to girls, boys are failing in school. More girls than boys graduate high school. Considerably more go to and graduate from college. In schools at every level boys account for the overwhelming majority of school discipline cases. One study found that fully one in five high school boys had been diagnosed with hyperactivity disorder, that’s compared with just one in 11 girls. Many of them were medicated for it. The long term health effects of those medications, not fully understood, but they do appear to include depression in later life.

Women now decisively outnumber men in graduate school. They earn the majority of doctoral degrees. They are now the majority of new enrollees in both law and medical schools.

For men, the consequences of failing in school are longterm and profound. Between 1979-2010, working age men with only high school degrees saw their real hourly wages drop about 20 percent. Over the same period, high school educated women saw their wages rise. The decline of the industrial economy disproportionately hurt men.

There are now seven million working age American men who are no longer in the labor force. They’ve dropped out. Nearly half of them take pain medication on any given day. That’s by far highest rate in the world.

Far fewer young men get married than did just a few decades ago, and fewer stay married. About one in five American children live with only their mothers. That’s double the rate in 1970. Millions more boys are growing up without fathers. Young adult men are now more likely to live with a parent than with a spouse or partner. That is not the case for young women. Single women buy their own homes at more than twice the rate of single men. More women than men now have drivers licenses.

Whenever gender differences come up in public debate, the so-called wage gap dominates the conversation. A woman makes 77 cents for every dollar a man earns. That’s the statistic you’ll hear. It’s repeated everywhere. But that number compares all American men to all American women across all professions. No legitimate social scientist would consider that a valid measure. The number is both meaningless and intentionally misleading. It’s a talking point.

Once you compare men and women with similar experience working the same hours in similar jobs for the same period of time — and that’s the only way you can measure it — the gap all but disappears. In fact it may invert. One study using census data found that single women in their 20s living in metropolitan areas now earn eight percent more on average than their male counterparts. By the way, the majority of managers in the workplace are now women. Women on average are now scoring higher on IQ tests than men are.

Men are even falling behind physically. A recent study found that almost half of young men failed the Army’s entry-level physical fitness test during basic training. Fully seventy percent of American men are now overweight or obese. That’s compared to 59 percent of American women.

Perhaps most bafflingly or terrifyingly, men seem to be becoming less male. Sperm counts across the west have plummeted, they’re down almost 60 percent since the early 1970s. Scientists don’t know why this is. Testosterone levels in men have also fallen precipitously. One study found that the average levels of male testosterone dropped by one percent every year after 1987. And it’s not unrelated to age. The average 40-year-old-man in 2017 would have testosterone levels 30 percent lower than the average 40-year-old man in 1987.

There is no upside to this. Lower testosterone levels in men are associated with depression, lethargy, weight gain and decreased cognitive ability. Nothing like this has ever happened to a population this big. You’d think we’d want to know why and how to fix it. But the media ignore the story. It’s considered a fringe topic.

Nor is it a priority in the scientific research establishment. We checked and couldn’t find a single NIH-funded study on why testosterone levels are falling. We did find a study on, ‘Pubic Hair Grooming Prevalence and Motivation Among Women in the US.’

This is a crisis. Yet our leaders pretend it’s not happening. They tell us the opposite is true: Women are victims, men are oppressors. To question that assumption is to risk punishment. Even as women far outpace men in higher education for example, virtually every college campus supports a women’s studies department, whose core goal is to attack male power. Our politicians and business leaders internalize and amplify that message. Men are privileged. Women are oppressed. Hire and promote and reward accordingly.

Now that would be fine if it were true. But it’s not true. At best, it’s an outdated view of an America that no longer exists. At worst, it’s a pernicious lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfuOtGLfg04
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March 9, 2018 9:48am
- dime
  
  how long til us white men really crack the shits and show the world who their daddy is again?
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:52am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Low testosterone levels suck.
  
  I have needed to have my testosterone levels artificially lowered to castration levels to fight a particularly nasty and aggressive prostate cancer.
  
  It worked, but at a huge cost.
  
  No libido, no endurance, fatigue, insomnia, depression, mental fog, loss of muscle mass, weight gain, shrinkage of the genitals, (THAT particular side effect was an unwelcome surprise, to say the least) erectile dysfunction, up to 20 hot flashes a day. I ended up under the care of a clinical psychologist for a while there!
  
  But I’m still alive, I’m off the drugs, and I’m slowly starting to lose the weight and build up my strength again.
  
  Hell of a ride though.
  
  I wonder if my genitals will grow back?
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:14am
  - dime
    
    yikes, how old are you?
    
    pending age, you could either:
    
    go for a restart – HCG or clomid usually.
    
    or
    
    Testosterone treatment. reandron 1000 might get you out to a needle every 8-10 weeks, for the rest of your life. plus side – youll have the T levels of a 20 yr old..
    
    doctors may not want that though. they freak about testosterone therapy and the prostate.. no real connection ever proven though
    
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    March 9, 2018 10:57am
    - Right of way is Way of Right
      
      Just passed my 50th birthday. Might have that chat with my doctor, but might give the hormones a chance to reoccur naturally. The testosterone blockers stopped my cancer in it’s tracks, no sign of a tumour now apparently!
      
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      March 9, 2018 11:21am
      - dime
        
        Dr Dime prescribes HCG. it should restart you quickly.
        
        Youll have to stick yourself in the belly with a needle but after what youve been through, shit happens!
        
        If you end up around 13 nmol/L or under on the blood test though, think about TRT.
        
        anyone over 50 who is done with having kids should be on the stuff imho.
        
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        March 9, 2018 11:45am
      - Right of way is Way of Right
        
        My current testestrone levels are at about 0.8 nanomoles.
        
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        March 9, 2018 1:52pm
  - dime
    
    “I wonder if my genitals will grow back?”
    
    you mean just your balls right?
    
    HCG will reverse atrophy quite quickly.
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:03am
  - Inandout
    
    Not the best mate, but I wonder if habitual rooting like many US politicians appear to suffer from, may help stave off prostate problems.
    
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    March 9, 2018 12:04pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Perhaps the opposite ….
      
      a celibate lifestyle might offer some form of protection
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7242091
      
      https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/27531/Adopt-the-habits-of-the-monks-if-you-want-to-live-to-a-ripe-old-age
      
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      March 9, 2018 2:00pm
Manolo

Modern-day feminism?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5474921/Risque-Helen-Skelton-axed-BBCs-Commonwealth-Games.html

Her scanty outfits at the Rio Olympics made BBC swimming presenter Helen Skelton famous – possibly for all the wrong reasons.

Now the BBC has axed the 34-year-old for the Commonwealth Games in Australia next month without explanation.
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March 9, 2018 9:49am
- Rodney Randall
  
  She needs to wear a Burqa!
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:27am
Maggy Wassilieff

Have powerful computer, must fiddle.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/victoria/bureau-of-meteorology-staff-investigated-in-afp-cryptocurrency-probe-20180308-p4z3g8.html

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/bom-staff-mining-cryptocurrency-2018-3
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March 9, 2018 9:50am
- realityczech
  
  Wiggles those weathermen do love their computer games 🙂
  
  Why am I not surprised to learn of them being involved in corruption and dishonesty offenses for money. They do that for a living.
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:00am
Chuck Bird

Leighton Smith is talking about that female raghead who result in the university lecturer losing his job. Some Muslim dude named after the pedophile prophet rang and was happy for the lecturer to lose his job.

I emailed Leighton and suggested both of them should go back to the shit hole countries they came from. I hope he reads it.
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March 9, 2018 10:21am
- Kimbo
  
  So if I refuse to shake your hand, does that’s mean I have to be permanently exiled from your hometown of Ngaruawahia? Shit, I think a queue three miles long, of folks wanting to avoid the place, has spontaneously formed behind me right now to join in my refusal! ?
  
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  March 9, 2018 10:33am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I think the lecturer was the architect of his own demise.
  Had a point to make.
  Made it.
  Cost him.
  Twat!
  
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  March 9, 2018 11:47am
DigNap15

This is another reason why muslims should not be allowed to come here.
They do not respect out culture.
And they don’t want to
And we shouldn’t bend to their!!

Stay in your own muslim countries.
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March 9, 2018 10:35am
Viking2

Mr Hooton has been given the arse card from NBR.

Social media has been buzzing with rumours about long-standing columnist Hooton’s sudden dismissal from the publication.

Hooton’s firm, Exceltium, provided advice to the Act Party.
( That explains why ACT can’t make the grade. Why would anyone listen to Hooton?)

NBR publisher Todd Scott posted on Twitter that he had made the decision to end the relationship with Hooton before the complaint was lodged. It was reported that he was axed as part of a move away from lobbyists as columnists.

“I acted decisively, my seniors will confirm that I made my call ahead of any legal action from Mr Joyce. I can’t say that I personally agree with Matthew, but I will definitely be standing by him and defending his right to voice his insightful opinion,” he said.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/101989860/joyce-complains-to-nbr-about-critical-piece-by-nowaxed-columnist

Kinda looks like Whale and Hooton make a good pair.

Next thing Hooton will be rootin for Winston. OMG.
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March 9, 2018 10:41am
- Happychappy
  
  Viking the the Herald have just added John Tamihiri to their Guest columnists so don’t be surprised if the Dickhead Hotton gets invited to their list also.
  
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  March 9, 2018 6:45pm
Monique Watson

I’m doing my best, Dime to bring up my four boys to not take shit at face value and to be proud to be male. And have the wherewithal to stand up and fight. Oldest is 14 next week and 6”3”. He’s been suspended for fighting at Middle School. He’ll be good and will be a role model for his brothers to fight for what you believe in.
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March 9, 2018 10:47am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Suspended for physical fighting, not debate? How will that help his future?
  
  Though if another boy started it, then of course he needed to defend himself.
  
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  March 9, 2018 12:19pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Settled science?
Who to believe: A NIWA meteorologist or a Met Service meteorologist?
From today’s Stuff:
This is the third cyclone to venture towards New Zealand since February.
Niwa meteorologist Seth Carrier said this is unusual, and it’s caused by the “perfect storm of weather features” this year. They’ve dragged the weather masses from the subtropics and the tropics towards New Zealand.

In an average November to April tropical cyclone season, Carrier said one or two ex-tropical cyclones typically passed within 550 kilometres of Auckland.

MetService meteorologist Brian Mercer doesn’t find the frequency of ex-cyclones that unusual.

“It’s very hard to say ‘normal’ when discussing tropical cyclones because they’re quite difficult to forecast for,” he said.

Who’s for a bob each way?
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March 9, 2018 10:55am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  We all know that the water around NZ has been unusually warm this summer, a result of the strong La Nina. Cyclones like warm water.
  Connect the dots. Hola won’t be the last one this season.
  
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  March 9, 2018 11:13am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Having said that, there’s now a nasty looking one developing halfway between New Caledonia and Queensland.
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:41am
Fletch

Paul Joseph Watson documents people who have been disowned by their families for being conservative or supporting Trump. Hard to believe there are people like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SR3GhM2eUc
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March 9, 2018 11:00am
- Lance
  
  I suspect that goes both ways in these days of increasing political extremism.
  
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  March 9, 2018 11:04am
Captain Mainwaring

Has anyone else noticed that the stuff site has drastically reduced the size of their font, making it very hard for old codgers like me to read?
Why would they do this unless they’re trying to scare us back to buying their fish & chip wrappers?
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March 9, 2018 11:05am
- BrasellBrush
  
  Hey Captain, press ctrl + and the font size will increase..
  
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  March 9, 2018 11:14am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    It worked. Thanks BB, one learns something every day.
    
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    March 9, 2018 11:43am
    - Fletch
      
      Yup, I even increase the font on this site, and Facebook doing that 🙂
      Pressing CTRL and zero gets you back to normal size.
      
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      March 9, 2018 3:01pm
stephieboy

Just heard on RNZ Trump not only about his Steel and Aluminium tariffs but also urging all Americans to buy US made .

Two points ,

1 Do we all recall the howls of derision and mockery when the Greens advocated the same ?

https://home.greens.org.nz/factsheets/buy-kiwi-made-media-campaign

2. Trump is apparently softening his stance on tariffs.Maybe realising how his mid west supporters will be socked with higher costs of consumables etc
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March 9, 2018 11:11am
- realityczech
  
  stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupidboy, so the Greens advocated we buy American made?
  
  LOL 🙂
  
  They might want to hang on to all that Steel and Aluminium after Hillary sold all that Uranium (20% of US production) to the Russians for a multi million dollar bribe.
  
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  March 9, 2018 11:16am
  - stephieboy
    
    rc , ????
    
    From my link,
    
    “Buy Kiwi Made is a Government campaign aimed at promoting consumer awareness of kiwi made products and encouraging domestic producers to label their goods New Zealand made.”
    
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    March 9, 2018 12:17pm
    - realityczech
      
      Q. What do you think about these filthy RACISTS buying local stupidboy?
      
      Q. What should we do about these climate deniers promoting fossil fuels?
      
      Buy Uganda Build Uganda
      
      Buy Uganda Build Uganda – What this means for Ugandans from a petroleum sector perspective – By Pamela Natamba
      
      https://www.pwc.com/ug/en/press-room/buy-uganda-build-uganda.html
      
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      March 9, 2018 12:24pm
Rich Prick

Some are getting annoyed with Cindy’s fairy dust being sprinkled in the Islands. About bloody time too.
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March 9, 2018 11:22am
- Longknives
  
  Not such a nice Taxpayer-funded Holiday for The People’s Princess and Clark in Nelson Rich Prick!
  *As an aside do you think Clark will mooch around in sneakers and jeans when he meets Obama? Honestly- What’s with those two and their dress sense??
  
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  March 9, 2018 12:23pm
Right of way is Way of Right

What are shares in Tiwai Point worth now?
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March 9, 2018 11:22am
realityczech

Explaining New Zealand’s “unusual” growing glaciers

The research, carried out by scientists from Victoria University of Wellington and the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA), was published today in scientific journal Nature Communications.

At least 58 New Zealand glaciers advanced between 1983 and 2008, with Franz Josef Glacier (Kā Roimata o Hine Hukatere) advancing nearly continuously during this time.

https://www.victoria.ac.nz/news/2017/02/explaining-new-zealands-unusual-growing-glaciers

I see what they did there. People can see with their own eyes that the glaciers are advancing, while the self described “scientists” lied to us that they were retreating at “record speed”.

So they wrote a fake science paper to try and explain away the lies they had told us and continue to promote climate alarmism.

These people should be imprisoned for the fraud they committed to obtain funding.
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March 9, 2018 11:53am
- stephieboy
  
  rc , from the same link ,
  
  “…We found that lower temperature caused the glaciers to advance, rather than increased precipitation as previously thought. These periods of reduced temperature affected the entire New Zealand region, and they were significant enough for the glaciers to re-advance in spite of human-induced climate change.”
  
  Associate Professor Mackintosh says the climate variability, which includes the cooler years, still reflects a climate that’s been modified by humans.
  
  “It may seem unusual—this regional cooling during a period of overall global warming—but it’s still consistent with human-induced climate change. The temperature changes were a result of variability in the climate system that’s specific to New Zealand.
  
  “New Zealand sits in a region where there’s significant variability in the oceans and the atmosphere—much more than many parts of the world. The climate variability that we identified was also responsible for changes in the Antarctic ice sheet and sea ice during this period….”
  
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  March 9, 2018 12:21pm
  - realityczech
    
    stuuuuuuuuuuupidboy, yeah I read it and unlike you I understood it.
    
    Summary: They lied about glaciers retreating.
    
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    March 9, 2018 12:28pm
    - stephieboy
      
      rc ,”They lied …” ?
      
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      March 9, 2018 12:49pm
      - realityczech
        
        Yes moron they lied. They told us for years glaciers were retreating in the area, even as people could see them advancing right before their eyes.
        
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        March 9, 2018 12:53pm
  - Ross12
    
    An idea for you stephieboy.
    Why don’t you write a guest post for KB explaining to us horrible deniers how AGW can be responsible for everything from cooling to warming and all of the varying degrees of them in between.
    Ass Prof MacKintosh seems to say NZ is in a geographic position where nature ensures the climate will vary quite a bit but somehow humans have been able to affect the massive forces of nature around our tiny islands.
    Your post could elaborate on how this occurs.
    
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    March 9, 2018 1:02pm
Hugh Pavletich

UNITED KINGDOM & AUSTRALIA … HOUSING ISSUES UPDATE …

Ruling out greenbelt removes a key lever to resolving our housing crisis … Ryan Bourne … UK Telegraph
(register free to read in full)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/03/08/ruling-greenbelt-removes-key-lever-resolving-housing-crisis/

• Ryan Bourne

Politicians are gradually edging closer to acknowledging the true causes and consequences of Britain’s dysfunctional housing sector.

Prime Minister Theresa May took the next step this week, setting out clearly the stakes. In 1997, the average home cost 3.5 times the average wage. By 2010, that ratio had more than doubled. Demographia’s annual Housing Affordability Survey, which calculates median house prices divided by median incomes by region, suggests a ratio of 8.5 in London, 6.8 in Cambridge, 6.4 in Oxford and 7 in Bournemouth. Price signals are screaming “build more homes” in these areas.

Housing demand has risen due to higher incomes, population growth and fragmented family structures. But supply has not kept pace for decades. Differences in land use planning laws mean we build in the wrong places too. The economist Paul Cheshire has shown that “twice as many houses were built in Doncaster and Barnsley in the five years to 2013 than in Oxford and Cambridge” – a clear sign that supply is not functioning to meet demand. …

… concluding …

… Where housing is concerned, the weight of evidence suggests government is the problem and not the solution. If we stopped artificially constraining developable land where people actually want to live, and gave local authorities and residents the chance to face the financial trade-offs associated with development, supply would be much more responsive to demand.

The intellectual debate on this is won. Eventually, our politicians will catch up.

• Ryan Bourne holds the R Evan Scharf chair for the Public Understanding of Economics at Cato

AUSTRALIA: RBA: Australia’s housing planning system hopelessly broken – MacroBusiness
(note Pavletich comments on thread)

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/rba-australias-housing-planning-system-hopelessly-broken/

By Leith van Onselen

The RBA has released a research paper assessing the impact of restrictive zoning rules on Australian house prices, estimating that they represent a punitive tax on home buyers, especially in Sydney and Melbourne.

Below are the key extracts: … read more via hyperlink above …

… earlier report …

THE BRITISH HOUSING CRISIS & LIKELY POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES (REPEATING NEW ZEALAND’S RECENT ELECTION EXPERIENCE) …

Tories fear middle-class millennials priced out of housing market could sink party at next election … UK Telegraph (behind paywall)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/16/millennials-middle-incomes-half-likely-homeowners-1990s/

Young middle-class professionals are half as likely to get on the housing ladder as they were 20 years ago, a new study has found as Tory MPs warned that the issue is an “iceberg” that could sink the party at the next election.

A report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies said that just one in four young middle-income families now owns their own home, down from two in three in the 1990s. read more via hyperlink above …
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March 9, 2018 12:25pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Yay, I scored the first downtick of many.
  
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  March 9, 2018 12:30pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    New Zealand buyers of new and existing homes know the days of bubble pricing are over …
    
    New build consents fall sharply as foreign buyer ban nears … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/102093527/New-build-consents-fall-sharply-as-foreign-buyer-ban-nears?cid=app-iPad
    
    There has been a continued downturn in the number of residential building consents at the beginning of this year.
    
    In December and January, the amount of residential consents fell sharply.
    
    ANZ economists wrote in the latest Market Focus report that the downturn happened across all building consents and “may rebound”. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    March 9, 2018 2:28pm
    - sooty
      
      Labour love you long time, Hughie.
      
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      March 9, 2018 6:04pm
stephieboy

The President ’s sex saga and woes continue ,

“Trump Lawyer Obtained Restraining Order to Silence Stormy Daniels”

President Trump’s lawyer secretly obtained a temporary restraining order last week to prevent a pornographic film star from speaking out about her alleged affair with Mr. Trump, according to legal documents and interviews.

(Read the restraining order.)
The order, issued by an arbitrator in California and reviewed by The New York Times, pertained to the actress Stephanie Clifford, who had been paid $130,000 shortly before the 2016 election in what she calls a “hush agreement.” In recent weeks, she had prepared to speak publicly about Mr. Trump, claiming his lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, had broken the agreement.
The details of the order emerged on Wednesday after the White House’s spokeswoman, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, said that Mr. Trump’s lawyer had won an arbitration proceeding against Ms. Clifford, who goes by the name of Stormy Daniels.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/07/us/politics/stormy-daniels-trump.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
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March 9, 2018 12:47pm
- realityczech
  
  stuuuupidboy “logic”
  
  Trump has consensual sex with a porn star – OUTRAGE ❗
  
  Clinton commits multiple rapes and sexual assaults – OK no worries Bill.
  
  When Clinton’s victims spoke out Hillary described the victims stories as “Bimbo Eruptions”. See for yourself Hillary describing rape survivors speaking out as Bimbo Eruptions as the cameras were running
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WiQRBN8igE
  
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  March 9, 2018 1:12pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Stephiebile is jealous because the only sex he gets with a porn star is in front of his computer
    Second thoughts. Nah. Not even capable of that. Too much of a Beta Male
    
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    March 9, 2018 1:27pm
    - realityczech
      
      stupidboy is referring to the whore from Belarus who was arrested in Thailand and made up a story that she had proof Trump was involved with the Russians. All they had to do was get her out of jail and give her asylum in the USA, and she would tell her bullshit story.
      
      I don’t know what the whore was charged with, probably drugs.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUAVD5BCymY
      
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      March 9, 2018 6:13pm
- softail 1450
  
  septicboy , obsessed imbecile ,im starting to think that septicboy has an unhealthy sexual obsession with donald trump ,ive never known a person to be so fixated on a world leader ,its obviously a dark fetish he has nurtured to a state of mania ,FFS septicboy give it a rest.
  
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  March 9, 2018 2:25pm
kowtow

Why would a ‘Canadian” fund Tunisians to murder Americans in Iraq?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43311180
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March 9, 2018 12:55pm
Poppa

So that weasel Parker is singing from the rooftops about signing the TPP, very odd for a man who opposed it when National were promoting the same thing.

There is word for that
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March 9, 2018 1:13pm
Monique Watson

@Classic Liberal. Another boy did start it. So he socked the other kid in the chops. Both boys were suspended. I didn’t take it too seriously. He’s not prone to starting fights but will defend himself and his friends. And they’re still sweet kids in the preteens/ early teens. They watch out for their friends and hold fast to values and have not yet been corrupted by the liberal media fillies:
War on Boys:

https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1713256388717210/
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March 9, 2018 1:16pm
All_on_Red

Breaking news
Kim Jong Un has requested a meeting with President Trump ‘as soon as possible’
He has also agreed to denuclearisation.
President Trump has agreed to the meeting. Hopefully ‘before May’
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March 9, 2018 1:23pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Hope Mr Kim leaves the nerve gas at home.
  
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  March 9, 2018 1:38pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Trump has bigger and better nerve gas.
    
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    March 9, 2018 1:57pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  This sounds like a plot from the movie The Interview (2014). I wonder where the assassination attempt fits in?
  
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  March 9, 2018 1:55pm
realityczech

This is the difference between a statesman and an ignorant black warlord.

Obama soured relations with NK and responded with military posturing. Trump holds his ground, maintains peace and talks.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and US President Donald Trump will meet by May

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/102131292/trump-says-south-korea-is-to-make-major-statement-on-north-korea
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March 9, 2018 1:34pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Obama is looking like he’s got some serious problems coming his way.
  The ‘Fast and Furious’docs have been released.
  No wonder Holder popped up playing look squirrel the other day.
  It also come out that the Inspector General of the DOJ appointed a Special Counsel to investigate FISA abuse last year….
  
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  March 9, 2018 1:45pm
  - realityczech
    
    I live in hope that justice will be done and Obama’s disgraceful legacy will be revealed as he rots in prison.
    
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    March 9, 2018 1:59pm
- Inandout
  
  CNN is trying (like stephie) to say Obama started it all. They will never give up until such time as they fold.
  
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  March 9, 2018 2:03pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Inaccurate too. Strictly speaking, Truman started it all! ?
    
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    March 9, 2018 2:06pm
realityczech

Well at least the Mexicans are finally safe from persecution.

Why Has President Obama Deported More Immigrants Than Any President in US History?

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-has-president-obama-deported-more-immigrants-any-president-us-history/
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March 9, 2018 2:06pm
realityczech

Oh and here is Hillary Clinton attacking Mexicans and demanding we build a “barrier” on the US border. 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezaw-g6TIQI
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March 9, 2018 2:08pm
- DigNap15
  
  Great skills!
  Lock her up
  
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  March 9, 2018 3:19pm
Kimbo

Hmm. High profile professional woman finds she can’t necessarily have it all, and quits her job because her family needs her:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12009662

Coming to a PM near us soon?
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March 9, 2018 2:59pm
DigNap15

Its good that Kim Jung Un is going to have talks with the USA
(Shows that pressure works)
But why in May!
Kim is not silly, that is 3 months more of tough sanctions!
May be he will ask for the sanctions to be lifted until the talks.
I think he maybe just buying time.
They could have the talks in 2 weeks time if they really wanted to. At least initial talks
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March 9, 2018 3:17pm
- Poppa
  
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  March 9, 2018 3:45pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I am sure that the initial talks have already been completed. This press release is the fruition of those talks.
  
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  March 9, 2018 3:50pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  But why in May!
  Because the US is engaged in its annual military exercises with South Korea before then.
  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/u-s-south-korea-plan-massive-joint-military-exercise-start-n854071
  
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  March 9, 2018 5:58pm
mandk

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/03/iranian-woman-jailed-for-not-wearing-headscarf.html

No doubt Golly G will be leading protests outside the Iranian Embassy this weekend.
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March 9, 2018 3:19pm
kowtow

I see we are hoping to get an exemption from the US tariffs on steel and aluminium , like other friendly nations are……..

……. a very good reason why our pollies need to have some tact and diplomatic skills .

I hope the Don doesn’t read Vogue or the Guardian!

The Don looks after American interests while the Little Pony fucks New Zealand’s on the international stage.

‘The prime minister of New Zealand may have a new nickname on the international stage – “the anti-Trump”.

Jacinda Ardern: ‘I’m not going to leave any room for doubt that I can do this’
Read more
That’s according to the fashion bible Vogue, which profiled 37-year-old Jacinda Ardern for its March issue, shooting the prime minister on a windswept North Island beach wearing clothes by New Zealand designers in a picture that is being described as “beautiful” and high fashion.

“New Zealand’s Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, Is Young, Forward-Looking, and Unabashedly Liberal,” the magazine’s headline read. “Call Her the Anti-Trump.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/15/the-anti-trump-new-zealand-pm-jacinda-ardern-vogue
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March 9, 2018 4:01pm
- DigNap15
  
  HighFashion!
  Dope!
  Do they think that high fashion comes from op shops?
  
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  March 9, 2018 4:38pm
- realityczech
  
  “Call Her the Anti-Trump.”
  
  No international media said she was “like Trump on immigration” due to her racist hatred and persecution of the Chinese. Which was not fair to Trump.
  
  https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/ardern-trump-immigration-wall-street-journal-says-ck-207368
  
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  March 9, 2018 4:59pm
- nasska
  
  …..”wearing clothes by New Zealand designers in a picture that is being described as “beautiful” and high fashion.”…..
  
  Looks like she crawled out of a charity clothing bin. 🙂
  
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  March 9, 2018 5:21pm
- Komata
  
  KT: Isn’t NZ now considered to be in the ‘Anti-USA’ group because the CoL virtue-signalked and voted against it in the UN? If that is the case then NZ shoukd be under no illusions about our relationship with the US. It’s called ‘Consequences’, a word that El Teeth doesn’t seem to be aware of…
  
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  March 9, 2018 7:16pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  So you haven’t been to Tonga then?The designer was Vincent de Paul?
  
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  March 9, 2018 7:33pm
DigNap15

How come that “kiwi” who killed a grandad in Queensland only got 6 years!

How come all king hits in Australia are by “kiwis”

How come all the “kiwi” king hitters are not white!
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March 9, 2018 4:36pm
stigie

Im sorry folks but don’t donkeys look similar..?

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/o/t/9/l/j/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620×349.1osuh2.png/1520566239634.jpg
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March 9, 2018 5:05pm
- realityczech
  
  She looks so happy giving away the tax dollars earned by homeless disaster victims in NZ to a bunch of laid back Islanders, while people here get nothing.
  
  Read the comments. People are waking up:
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/101107426/is-this-normal-ask-gita-volunteers-as-victims-reach-breaking-point
  
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  March 9, 2018 5:18pm
- stigie
  
  Edit:- Johnboy’s Blossom had superior teeth !~
  
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  March 9, 2018 5:41pm
  - nasska
    
    Blossom was only a rising two tooth stigie.
    
    JB likes them young & fresh. 🙂
    
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    March 9, 2018 5:46pm
    - stigie
      
      No wonder he sent her packing down the road Nasska, we all thought this was JB’s life time love..?
      
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      March 9, 2018 5:52pm
- itstricky
  
  KEEPING STOCK!
  
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  March 9, 2018 5:43pm
itstricky

ruh-oh

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12009753
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March 9, 2018 5:44pm
- nasska
  
  What’s racist about it? The meme is spot on & factual.
  
  All the Peoples Princess has done since September is throw away our money like confetti & piss off the World’s leaders. The ones that count anyway!
  
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  March 9, 2018 5:53pm
  - Kimbo
    
    1. It wasn’t critical in the first instance of her government’s spending “since September”. Instead it singled out spending, including aid in the Pacific Islands for particular criticism.
    
    2. The tweet was quickly pulled. Looks like guilt.
    
    Memo to the Young Nats – by all means use the valid questions Mike Hosking asked, but beware of the next step. Imitate the typical partisan rhetoric of many Kiwibloggers, and you may be surprised to find it’s not the setting that resonates with floating centrist voters. And always remember rule #1 of politics: never give your enemies a stick with which to beat you.
    
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    March 9, 2018 6:27pm
    - nasska
      
      But what was “racist” about it? It depicted the airhead’s visage pasted over Winfrey’s gross body handing out cash like it was Monopoly money.
      
      Of course it was pulled quickly. For the National Party the manufactured outrage from the Left wasn’t worth dying in a ditch over.
      
      But consider this. Unless our side grow some balls we’ll soon be at a stage where we can say nothing for fear of labelling. That isn’t going to get any points across either.
      
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      March 9, 2018 6:46pm
      - Kimbo
        
        As I said, it was criticising not just Ardern’s spending, but her spending on a particular group (with emphasis)
        
        Every island gets more money”.
        
        Sure, fight the fights that are worth winning. But that means appealing to the swinging voters, not the partisans. It also means if you really must attack likeable Saccharine Cindy – always a very risky gambit. Remember those you are trying to reach are not partisans – then make sure there is no potential collateral damage among voting constituencies.
        
        Plus the ultimate sniff test: if Kea/realityczech/felching straw is saying it’s a good idea, alarm bells should be ringing! ?
        
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        March 9, 2018 6:55pm
      - nasska
        
        ….“Every island gets some cash”…..
        
        And PIs are Labour voters…..unless some religious halfwit like Colin Craig comes along buying votes at $71 apiece.
        
        I’ve always held that elections are won in the centre. Neither the tribal Right nor the tribal Left are going to move much & certainly not enough to swing an election.
        
        The centrists are personified by ‘Waitakere Man’ & a growing clique of increasingly well off semi skilled workers. If they see Chompers as throwing around “their” money then their allegiances are weakening by the day.
        
        There’s a risk to attack politics but generally victories are won by the risk takers.
        
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        March 9, 2018 7:08pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Right, so now you’ve acknowledged what your prejudices are concerning PI voters, including that they should be written off, even thrown under the bus for the sake of National’s political gain, so we are starting to peel the onion and get to the racist subtext that went into the original text.
        
        And in doing so you overlook that increasingly many of those Waitakere Men are Pacific Islanders. Is part of the reason Alfred Ngaro pushed Phil Twyford so hard in Te Atatu in 2017. And under MMP every vote counts, doubly so if you are shaking free some of those your opponents consider their core, even bedrock supporters.
        
        Sure, take risks, but as per Hilary Clinton’s “deplorables” blunder, make real sure when you attack your opponent, it is only your opponent who is the target.
        
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        March 9, 2018 7:23pm
      - DigNap15
        
        A lot of PI voters vote for Christian values.
        Simon married versus Jacinda (living in sin)
        
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        March 9, 2018 7:39pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Plus, if you want to win over the soft floating urban luvvies, then make bloody sure when you target Ardern’s and Robertson’s and Peter’s exorbitant spend up that you don’t criticise aid to cyclone-damaged neighbours. FFS, no one likes grouching about a genuine feel-good story. Well, outside of a Kiwiblog that is the norm. ?
        
        Don’t worry, there will be plenty of spend ups for National to criticise the coalition over, and in doing so gain the ear of financially-pressed Waitakere Man, and yes, even the luvvies. But differentiating yourself on aid spending isn’t where National want to go.
        
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        March 9, 2018 7:42pm
      - realityczech
        
        “FFS, no one likes grouching about a genuine feel-good story.”
        
        A typically wordy and wrong comment from bimbo.
        
        Check out the comment on Stuffed news. They are scathing of her giving that money away. The only ones who are not outraged are amoral virtue signallers
        
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        March 9, 2018 7:48pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ DigNap15
        
        Maybe, but I’m not too sure it matters significantly. When Tiato Phillip Field got turfed out of Labour and ran his own “traditional values” Pacific Island Party, his hypocritical and self-serving whinging about Labour being the party of gays and legalised prostitution got short shrift. So it would seem the main attraction among PI voters to Labour is financial, and also loyalty.
        
        Yes, Pacific Islanders tend to be loyal voters because they come from a culture that values loyalty, and Labour are the one to whom they are loyal. And there are some valid historic reasons for that, although increasingly Labour is vulnerable to the perception they are paternalistic. And no one likes to be taken for granted, or their personal values and votes presumed.
        
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        March 9, 2018 7:53pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Kea/realityczech/felching straw
        
        No, they were critical of the fact that cyclone hit Kiwis in Motueka were not also given the full court press of photo op disaster relief. They are wanting both the Islands and NZ to be assisted, not either/or.
        
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        March 9, 2018 8:05pm
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        Nasska wrote at 7.08 p.m. about a growing clique of increasingly well off semi skilled workers. My wife complains that I spend too much time drinking grog with such people. And their comments about the present ruling regime are the sort to bring a smile to a National Party activist. It is a clique that Mr Bridges must cultivate, for the rewards, if he does, are very very good.
        
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        March 9, 2018 10:02pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Sorry, my apologies. Misinterpreted the NZ Herald’s description that the tweet was “shut down”. They were describing the reaction, not the tweet being removed.
    
    Nonetheless, it still proves the political maxim, “explaining is losing”, so don’t give ‘em the opportunity to use the “racist” word in the first place. Especially when there is some racism, either real or perceived lurking beneath the surface.
    
    Link it with the slow clean up for New Zealanders in Motueka? You bet!
    
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    March 9, 2018 6:40pm
    - nasska
      
      ….”Nonetheless, it still proves the political maxim, “explaining is losing””…..
      
      Then don’t bother explaining.
      
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      March 9, 2018 6:48pm
      - Kimbo
        
        I didn’t start. You did. ?
        
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        March 9, 2018 6:59pm
- realityczech
  
  They “shut down” a humorous tweet making fun of the vile commie hag, by making false accusations about racism.
  
  A new low has been achieved by the alt-left.
  
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  March 9, 2018 6:05pm
PhilP

I’m absolutely appalled that Cindy goes on her Pacific jaunt to make an announcement about NZ Super for Niue, Tokelau and the Cooks. Yes I know they are NZ citizens but they should only be eligible if they live and work in NZ, just the same as myself. FFS! There are so many restrictions for me if I want to leave the country for more than 26 weeks. It works both ways Cindy. Here she is making policy up on the “hoof” (pun intended) without any discussion with the NZ public. She says this will be the most open and transparent government………my arse!
May be someone here could tell me if these 3 Island protectorates no longer have to enter NZ for work to obtain the Super? or just sit at home from birth to 65 then it’s automatically given? I am not at all sure on this point.
But anyway it has riled me up so much I needed to rant!
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March 9, 2018 5:54pm
- DigNap15
  
  Its the way of the COL future.
  Free money.
  
  It will come back to bite them
  She must have fixed all the poverdy here.
  
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  March 9, 2018 6:57pm
sooty

Wanker Lester of the Wellington Council has just announced that he is going to put a rainbow coloured pedestrian crossing in, the CBD. He wants a gay area of town. Will the shops vacate the area. But anyway, I thought that the crossing had to be white bands. What makes it a legal crossing if its all colours. Get pulled by plod, What crossing?
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March 9, 2018 6:12pm
- PhilP
  
  Always thought he was a bit Queer!
  
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  March 9, 2018 6:15pm
- realityczech
  
  “He wants a gay area of town.”
  
  Have you been for a walk around Welly? It is seldom I go for a walk without seeing overtly gay couples, men hold hands is common, and we have a standing army of fat angry man hating lesbians waddling around town sneering at everything.
  
  Androgynous scrawny soyboys make up most of the balance.
  
  This is the gayest place I have ever seen. It needs an area for straight people.
  
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  March 9, 2018 6:20pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”This is the gayest place I have ever seen”….
    
    And you walk there? Alone & unarmed? At night knowing that at any moment you could be bent over a rubbish bin & sodomised?
    
    You are a brave man! 🙂
    
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    March 9, 2018 6:28pm
    - realityczech
      
      People tend to leave me well alone nasska, especially soyboys and homos.
      
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      March 9, 2018 6:56pm
      - nasska
        
        So the secret lies in your antiperspirant? 🙂
        
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        March 9, 2018 7:11pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Nah the secret lies in being a half pint little bitch with a tee shirt that reads “keyboard Xena” makes them think little Kea is part of the crew already.
        
        The Rasta tea cosy on his blonde dreads also freaks them out a little.
        
        The US flag patch on his denim jacket confuses them tho.
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:11pm
      - realityczech
        
        Awwwcomestain has been stood up again tonight and is all bitter and twisted. He even went to the trouble of inserting his biggest butt plug for his Grindr hook-up
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:28pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        She-it, ya caught me out Kea.
        
        Not surprising considering you’re the bitch who didn’t show up, All promises with no follow through.
        
        I kinda expected it once I heard the news of trump meeting Kimmy.
        
        I thought to myself, is more likely to still come over and play or will he dress up as the Don again and get out his Kimmy sex doll ( still amazed they made it for you tbh)
        
        Well I went all Jacinda and thought positively and got all dressed up and there you are… at home in a toupee fucking a synthetic North Korean dictator
        
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        March 9, 2018 9:42pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    A standing army of sneering waddlers?
    
    Do you ever wonder that you might pass through life without ever experiencing the love of a same-gendered soul?
    
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    March 9, 2018 7:27pm
    - realityczech
      
      No
      
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      March 9, 2018 7:35pm
    - nasska
      
      No bugger will ever have his fun in my shit! 🙂
      
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      March 9, 2018 7:42pm
      - realityczech
        
        Go vegan and eat soy. You will come around.
        
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        March 9, 2018 7:50pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Not very original…
  
  And clearly Lester hasn’t considered the mind-set of his demented voters.
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3050776/Plans-rainbow-coloured-zebra-crossing-support-gay-rights-abandoned-fears-cause-hallucinations-dementia-sufferers.html
  
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  March 9, 2018 7:47pm
stigie

That’s like saying he’s camp as a row of tents ole chap !~
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March 9, 2018 6:22pm
DigNap15

Why does Australia let all those Africans into its country?
They are causing mayhem in Melbourne.
What possible use to Australia are they!
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March 9, 2018 6:56pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  If the State could see a benefit in allowing needy, unskilled, illiterate, large-families-back-home, probably low-IQ, non-native speakers of English with a penchant for impulsive behavior, then I am sure they will let lots of them into the country.
  
  Or else the State officials are insulated, unimaginative, unaccountable and possessed with a very short-term vision or none at all.
  
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  March 9, 2018 8:20pm
Komata

DNap: By doing so, they are proving that they are good and caring UN members, just like NZ…
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March 9, 2018 7:24pm
DigNap15

Here what happens when you let in people from shit hole countries and bend over backwards to “help” poor people, whilst worrying about single use straws

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/tammy-bruce-california-chaos-unchallenged-liberalism-leaves-homelessness-drug-abuse-garbage-in-its-wake.html

5,000 needles!
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March 9, 2018 7:37pm
Viking2

Finance Minister Grant Robertson has signalled that property owners benefiting from the building of the Auckland rail links could be subject to a special “value capture” tax.

Speaking at the Auckland Chamber of Commerce/Massey University annual finance lunch at the Pullman Hotel in Auckland, Robertson said the Government was investigating “innovative” ways to bridge the funding gap to pay for the rail and roading infrastructure the country needs, especially in Auckland.

“Between the balance sheets of the Auckland Council and the Government, we still don’t have enough,” Robertson said.

“Minister Phil Twyford and I are actively looking at opportunities for how to do that.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/102122026/finance-minister-grant-robertson-is-investigating-property-value-capture-tax-to-fund-rail?cid=facebook.post.102122026

Interesting what else he has to say about forms of funding. seems to copy Natioanls line.
Another U turn.
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March 9, 2018 8:42pm
- KiWombat
  
  What does this mean ? Does anybody with a house situated within – say – 2km of a railway in Auckland need to pay an additional tax !
  
  Next they’ll try to charge you for living near a footpath !
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:47pm
- realityczech
  
  “Finance Minister Grant Robertson has signalled that property owners benefiting from the building of the Auckland rail links could be subject to a special “value capture” tax.”
  
  Yes yes YES !!!! LOL 🙂
  
  I hope he does this. Imagine all the Maori and Islander families appearing in the media with a tribe of brown eyed little kids saying how Labours tax means no dinner tonight for them, before mum goes off to work a second job cleaning dunnies to try and pay the mortgage.
  
  Simon Bridges will be delighted.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:54pm
DigNap15

Property Value Capture Tax!

Well you voted for them, not me.
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March 9, 2018 9:19pm
GazzaW

Excitement and anticipation at the Herald of the pending arrival of Cyclone Hola seems to have subsided today.

I have been keeping an eye on an excellent site, http://www.earth.nullschool.net, for most of the day and Hola seems to be stationary off the NW coast of New Caledonia and has been since this morning.
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March 9, 2018 9:24pm
- rangitoto
  
  windy.com is quite good.
  
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  March 9, 2018 9:30pm
rangitoto

I don’t check out WO as much as I used since Slater wandered off the reservation but Spanish Bride still puts up some stuff:

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/03/these-photos-prove-that-we-are-being-lied-to-and-manipulated/
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