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General Debate 3 March 2018

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KiWombat

Clare Curran has been incapable of defending her government against serious accusations of impropriety on two occasions this week.

Curran appeared to be unable to comprehend the question posed to her by Melissa Lee on Thursday – sidestepped – shuffled – um’d and ah’d – then avoided answering the question, and gave no ministerial opinion.

Now we need to know whether Cindy was involved in this deception as well, or will she claim to have been she suffering baby brain at the time? There are more questions to be asked yet.

It is blatantly apparent that Curran is incapable of performing this role to any reasonable standard – this incompetent minister has to go !
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March 3, 2018 8:00am
- peterwn
  
  No. She is needed to remain in the job to help show everyone what a dreadful government is.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:19am
  - cmm
    
    No need for her to stay. There are heaps more incompetents around her to pick up the baton.
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:29am
    - KiWombat
      
      I thought we had seen the best of the idiot brigade after the Twitford debacle, but the CoL just keep on finding better idiots !
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:48am
      - GazzaW
        
        I reckon Willie Jackson has it in spades over Curran for incompetency. Paul Goldsmith of all people has had Jackson on the rack for over a week and obviously relishing his work. The expressions on Jackson’s face and his fidgeting while waiting his turn in front of the Inquisition are priceless. Another little gem in the current Question Time spectacle.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:48am
      - Liberty
        
        GazzaW
        
        “Another little gem in the current Question Time spectacle.”
        
        There hasn’t been so much fun since Lochwood roasted Labours slave keeper.
        
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        March 3, 2018 12:53pm
      - GazzaW
        
        You really have to ponder Labour’s incompetence when previous Nat debating lightweights such as Lee, Goldsmith & Woodhouse have seemingly morphed overnight sufficiently to apply the feet of Curran, Jackson and Twitford firmly to the fire day after day. There’s another gem in the making too given Thursday’s performance – Mitchell v Mark.
        
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        March 3, 2018 1:28pm
- Paulus
  
  Imagine if this had been a National Minister – the so called media would have had resignation blood before they would leave off.
  She should resign – but she is Labour so has no morals or integrity at all.
  Cindy/Heather say don’t worry we will cover for you with the media.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:44am
Cunningham

Herald breaking news – Jacinda has bought a new house. FFS is this really breaking news????
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March 3, 2018 8:01am
- SGA
  
  meh – apparently many in their audience likes stories like that. It was in the news recently that John Key had sold his? Go figure.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:03am
- waikatogirl
  
  Please tell me Cindy’s new house is on the exclusive Paratai Drive! ?
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:07am
  - DigNap15
    
    No its an affordable tin shed in Manukau
    
    I wonder what all the homeless will think of that.
    They vote her in and she spends up large!
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:09am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Lol, only the best for the nations baby. ?
      
      It was only a few days ago Cindy was telling us families could happily live in apartments.
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:23am
      - KKKKatee
        
        The oxymoronisms keep on coming from the PM.
        This is gold.
        If you’re going to set yourself as a beacon of hope to the ‘poor and needy’, then you need to walk the talk.
        As an aside, I’ll bet her jaw dropped to the ground when she walked into Malcolm Turnbull’s multi million dollar home in Sydney the other day.
        She would never in her life have seen such wealth on display.
        That is a result of Malcom Turnbull being born with brains and an ability to make lots of money.
        Can’t argue with that.
        So, I’m left wondering about the impact of such a vision on her Communist senses.
        As for me, I really soak up the vision of beautiful homes.
        I have a saying “I admire it, but don’t desire it” and then head back home to our lovely nest and thank my lucky stars that we’ve worked hard to enjoy the fruits of our labours.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:14am
      - srylands
        
        I’m sure Malcolm has a nice house. However they didn’t meet there. They met in Kirribili House. Owned by the government.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:27am
      - Milhous
        
        No. They met at his point piper house for dinner .
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:58am
      - KiWombat
        
        This pics on the news last night were taken from Kirribilli House, which is the PM’s official Sydney residence. Almost directly opposite the Opera House.
        
        Point Piper is further down the harbour. Don’t think they would allow CLicker into Point Piper anyhow !
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:14am
      - sooty
        
        Cindy has sold her old home to a deserving family at a knock down price of $50,000, because Clarke had not finished some diy. Aint they lucky an affordable house.
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:43am
      - GazzaW
        
        It would be an interesting exerciseto track the sale of her old home. Wouldn’t it be a laugh if it was a Chinese buyer? I have no doubt there will be a KBer keen enough to check it out.
        
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        March 3, 2018 2:26pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Not yet! Now that would be an oxymoron if that were ever to happen for the Communist wouldn’t it? That would remind me of the Romanian dictator, Nicolae Ceausescu who, along with his wife, was executed on Christmas Day, 1989. This is what happens when dictators get too big for their boots and cause misery for the people. The peasants revolt!
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:19am
    - stephieboy
      
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      KKKKatee
      
      The peasants revolt! ?
      
      Who you and other alt righters here on KB ?
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:40am
      - KKKKatee
        
        I would have thought it would be the ‘poor’ people she so dishonestly aims to root for, actually.
        I’m very happy being a capitalist and living the life of Riley. No ‘mouldy’ houses for me, clapped out cars, 12 kids, 5 dogs etc. etc. You get the picture.
        
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        March 3, 2018 8:51am
      - thedavincimode
        
        chirrup … chirrup … alt right … alt right … chirrup …
        
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        March 3, 2018 8:54am
      - thedavincimode
        
        Sure you aren’t running a bit late for the mall budgie brain?
        
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        March 3, 2018 8:56am
      - VicParking
        
        Morning Stephie, I see you are calling us all Peasants. What does that make you and all your Troll mates. Katee was commenting about Romania, another time another place. A logical example and method to point out the direction this government is taking NZ. Only your twisted troll brain would try and use it to abuse all KB’eers.
        
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        March 3, 2018 8:56am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Sqwawk – who’s a pretty polly then?
        
        I’m so impressed that you could manage to learn a few words that you sqwawk out every minute or two.
        
        Of course, the ability to think and frame an argument would be a big evolutionary step up…. but baby steps, baby steps.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:46am
      - GazzaW
        
        Oh dear, another day on the treadmill with us awful alt righters stephie? Your turn in the barrel again? It comes around so quickly.
        
        I bet they didn’t tell you about this when you joined up with Young Labour. Nothing for nothing in this world old son. Never mind you’ll have the next social gathering to look forward to at HQ – plenty of room temperature cask Blenheimer and hairy legged sheilas. Should be fun, fun, fun.
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:02am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Yes, fuck- face we revolt. and we search out those who have made our lives miserable and we extract revenge. We have been taught well by the Commie Basterds since about 1917, they have countless examples of how to do this very effectively.
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:11am
      - eandlbufe
        
        At least stephieboy is consistant. Gets a host of down votes without any one even reading it. This is mind-numbingly dumb or stupid by this person.
        
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        March 4, 2018 2:45pm
    - Gabby
      
      How very homebrew of you kkkaktee.
      
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      March 3, 2018 7:53pm
- lilman
  
  YEP,in a failed experiment that was Capitalism as well,its news alright.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:09am
- thedavincimode
  
  I seem to recall, early in the election, porcelain chops wittering on about how ‘could she ever afford to buy a house nowadays’? It seemed somewhat at odds with the nice little wedge she’s been pulling from the taxpayer one way and another for her entire adult life. And then, l0′, she’s got one by election night and now, good heavens, she’s bought another one???
  
  Anyway, no doubt the dunnies got a thorough inspection. With running the country, solving poverty, telling the aussies what to do and clarke out fishing all the time, I can’t imagine she’d have time to fix them.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:11am
  - KKKKatee
    
    She’ll never solve poverty, she’ll never live up to the promise ‘a house for everyone’, she’ll never stop suicide. She’s rather delusional one would think.
    As an aside, I think she’s got the message from Malcolm Turnbull – keep your nose out of our politics. Time will tell. And she wore those bloody awful ankle-strap shoes again yesterday. Head down to Scarpa when you’re home next and get some decent shoes. Not that hard.
    And quite right – is the Point Chev house sold or does she have a really needy, poor family able to take up residence at a reduced rent, because thats the ‘morally right’ thing to do she says. Or will the house be sold and a handsome profit made along the way? Yeah, nah!
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:27am
    - Cunningham
      
      I’m all for criticism of the PM if she and her government are doing a shit job (which they are IMO) but going on about her shoes??? Really??? You’re no better then the KDS idiots who use to bag John Key for equally stupid shit. Get a grip!
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:01am
      - KKKKatee
        
        I take it you’re a man then?
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:09am
      - SGA
        
        Nah, KKKate, he’s just being consistent. He finds “news” of her buying a house trivial, and discussions of her shoes vapid.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:48am
      - thedavincimode
        
        Yes, but Cunningham, they really are bad shoes.
        
        Besides, what would you have said if Key wandered about on the world stage wearing footy shorts and jandals. Imagine swapping the jandals for platform galoshes with an ankle strap. It’s embarrassing enough that she trundles offshore as our PM; the very least she can do is dress without looking like she just robbed an opp shop.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:51am
      - SGA
        
        My goodness, dvm, a discriminating eye for women’s footwear – you metrosexual, you. Who would have guessed (or maybe it’s a fetish?) 🙂 🙂 🙂
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:56am
      - thedavincimode
        
        SGA, you don’t need to be a guru on couture to know what looks like shit. Besides, have you never had: “what do these look like … do these go with this … shall I wear the other ones …. ?” rinse & repeat
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:12am
      - SGA
        
        dvm, I’m still of an age where I rarely pay much attention to what’s below a woman’s ankles.
        
        In fact, one of life’s mysteries to me is why women pay so much attention to their shoes 🙂 . I can only assume it is for the benefit of other women.
        
        Oh, and, “those look fine, dear”, “whatever you think it is best”, “if you’re sure you’ll be comfortable”. Rinse and repeat until “we are 15 minutes late already, luv” 🙂
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:26am
      - thedavincimode
        
        Oh, and, “those look fine, dear”, “whatever you think it is best”, “if you’re sure you’ll be comfortable”. Rinse and repeat until “we are 15 minutes late already, luv”
        
        You’ve had an easy life if you’ve been able to get away with that.
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:40am
      - SGA
        
        I chose well (or just got lucky) 🙂
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:41am
      - Cunningham
        
        I just don’t see the point going on about trivial things! One of the reasons Key stayed in as long as he did was because of the rabid people who tried to bring him down on ridiculous things. It made the whole opposition to him look petty and it cemented his support base. Keep going on about her shoes and you’ll do the same thing for her.
        
        And yes I’m a guy but that irrelevant.
        
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        March 3, 2018 12:16pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        I would be pleased if she had robbed an op shop in one sense as it looks like she dresses to an op shop bin dive standard to me
        
        I hope the real estate agent who sold her the Sandringham estate has the good sense to include a Number One Shoes voucher in his ‘thank you for enriching me by $50,000.00’ basket
        
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        March 3, 2018 12:17pm
    - Harkman
      
      “I think she’s got the message from Malcolm Turnbull – keep your nose out of our politics”
      
      Yes she learnt a hard lesson, fairy dust doesn’t work in the real world, just her empty head.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:27am
    - Southern Raider
      
      Exactly. Has she used the evil untaxed capital gain to move up the property ladder?
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:30am
      - KKKKatee
        
        One is hoping she will retain the house and rent it out to a needy family or two at a peppercorn rental. That would show that she really is in touch with the poverty stricken she purports to represent. And she’ll turn a blind eye to the multiple dogs that come with such families as well. And it won’t matter that the P cookups stuff the house as well, not to mention holes in walls etc. etc.
        The place has the potential to end up looking like a gang pad if that were to occur. The evil untaxed capital is only evil when some other bastard does it.
        Great Tui ad material.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:48am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      KKKKate – Ardern is a shallow utopian and as such her views should be challenged and treated with the contempt they deserve.
      
      Life is hard so get over it. Either take responsibility for where you are and where you are headed or suffer in your self created misery.
      
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      March 3, 2018 12:12pm
    - Viking2
      
      Ah but will she pay the tax. Under 2 years and profits are taxable and will she do this before the 5 years brightline test is voted into law.?
      
      Or,or will she rent it out using her flash income to pay the interest on the mortgage and then clain it as a tax deduction?
      
      Has she mortgaged the old house to its maximum to shift that interest deduction to a before tax expense?
      
      all very intriguing questions for someone in the Nats to ask in a few weeks time.
      
      But they won’t in case she takes revenge on them and brings in law that targets those actions.
      
      Going to be a fun year.
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:56pm
- holysheet
  
  Did she sell her old one to a chinky? I bet she had them checked out by Twitford before selling it.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:15am
  - KiWombat
    
    Affordable homes? Hogwash !
    
    Get a job in a fish ‘n chip shop,
    travel the world,
    use free education to get a degree – any degree,
    get a job with Labia,
    shack up with a fisherman,
    fail two or three times,
    get knocked up – and
    
    VOILA
    
    That’s the recipe how to get a house in Auckland !
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:28am
    - VicParking
      
      Don’t forget on the way become a Communist world leader and break the world record for the number of times you can say “comrade” in a speech.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:01am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Correction. The BF on his own merits, would never have been able to spend up large. This is why all his Christmases have come at once. He’s reeled in a rather lucrative fish and ain’t about to let that one off the hook!
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:08am
      - niggly
        
        Real life Gayford quote: “I think I’ve probably hit the jackpot”!
        
        Yep hooking up with the PM Select is akin to winning bigtime on the pokies or Lotto – good one Clarke! Not!
        
        https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/gayford-ardern-ive-hit-jackpot
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:59am
  - stephieboy
    
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    holycrap , the prattle of a magpie !
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:42am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Self praise is no recommendation, stupidboy.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:11am
      - Gabby
        
        Equine urine is no aperitif Donkey Wee.
        
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        March 3, 2018 7:57pm
- Paulus
  
  Sandringham CV $1,700,000 so probably cost up or over $2,000,000.
  Didn’t she do well !
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:45am
  - KiWombat
    
    Sooooo affordable !
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:54am
  - tf78
    
    Do you think as shareholders in her new home we will all be invited to the house warming.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:12am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Surely the banks analysed the risk that once she gets rolled she will never make that kind of money again and so mortgage payments may default?
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:32am
    - sooty
      
      My thoughts as well. How is she going to make payments in the future? She is hoping to stay in parliament, what as a backbencher? This is going to be fun.
      
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      March 3, 2018 10:50am
  - KiWombat
    
    Is this the new benchmark for “affordable housing?”
    
    Perhaps she has not read the Twitford brochure – I would hope she would lead by example !
    
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    March 3, 2018 5:02pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Maybe it`s a 2.5 mil doer-upper a-la Cunliffe?
  She`ll be spending that new salary like a drunken sailor, same as what she has in store for the countries economy.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:17am
  - KKKKatee
    
    Robbo operates an open cheque book policy and whilst the PM appears to have no idea of how business operates, maybe she’s talking to him about taking risks. If and when she gets rolled and she will, then she could afford one of the Kiwibuild houses she’s can’t get off the ground yet or, indeed, find people who can afford them.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:22am
- mandk
  
  Is it one of those $350k apartments the PM wants people to live in in Auckland?
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:23am
  - KKKKatee
    
    Nah. Too small for her but ok for other families with more than 1 kid. And I’m not so sure that is possible to build a dog box for that amount of money is it?
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:58am
- Rachael Membery
  
  And the house next door might be bought for the protection squad, will baby sitting be part of their duties as never before?
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:55am
  - GazzaW
    
    Handy to the Kingsland ‘play area’ for Gaylord too.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:09am
- niggly
  
  What? Shes’s just bought effectively a $2M house – what a f***ing hypocritical rich prick, who pretends and pretends she is at one with the “people”, the poor and the down-trodden!
  
  Jacinda is just another Cunliffe in drag – a fake “anti-capitalist” but rich prick bullshit artist!
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:54am
  - KKKKatee
    
    Spot on there, Niggly.
    
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    March 3, 2018 12:56pm
- Paulus
  
  Understand that Cinderella’s new house for over $2,000,000 and from somebody who hates Capitalism.
  But Helen Clarke has seven houses now I understand, so Cinderella will have to get with it to catch up.
  Is she keeping her current cheaper house too ?
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:25pm
  - niggly
    
    “Is she keeping her current cheaper house too ?”
    
    Keep the current house and Clarke can chillax and party there when baby is at the new house being looked after, perhaps? 😉
    
    Either way whether kept or sold, huge capital gains for the PM Select … oh I thought Labour were against that sort of predatory rich prick behavior? Silly me for thinking Labour has principles!
    
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    March 3, 2018 1:49pm
  - GazzaW
    
    Helen Clarke has seven rentals? Wouldn’t that qualify her as an offshore absentee landlord by Twitford’s standards? It’s just as well she doesn’t have a chinky sounding name.
    
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    March 3, 2018 5:02pm
- Liberty
  
  Government worker on a short term contract. Upgrades their house
  Before a vile CGT is imposed on the peasants.
  Meanwhile the homeless find refuge in some shop doorway.
  
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  March 3, 2018 2:12pm
- Piniwi
  
  @ it is far from a “new’ house but rather an old one that somebody seems to have done a poor job of “doing it up”.
  
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  March 3, 2018 2:17pm
- alex Masterley
  
  There goes the neighbourhood!
  
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  March 4, 2018 6:28am
holysheet

Cindy had just given a lengthy press conference in Australia where she explained she will need to take a month and a half off around the time of the birth of the baby of the nation, and how her partner, the baby’s father, will be a stay at home dad when she returns to work.

Unfortunately her Kiwi accent didn’t help clarify exactly what her priorities are, when she stated;

“After sex weeks off I will be back on dick”
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March 3, 2018 8:06am
- KiWombat
  
  You should be on the payroll HS – a smile is wonderful medicine this early in the day !
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:09am
  - Piniwi
    
    Holysheet perhaps there needs to be a record kept of her most memorable quotes and this one it the best yet. Even tops her saying “what she puts on Clarkes shoulders”. Cheers
    
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    March 3, 2018 2:29pm
- Duxton
  
  Excellent! I just shared that with a carriage-full of cricket fans on the way to the Wellington ODI. Roars of laughter all round.
  
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  March 3, 2018 12:29pm
- Paulus
  
  But the new house will have enough room for a live in Nanny too.
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:26pm
  - KiWombat
    
    And an ankle bracelet as well !
    
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    March 3, 2018 5:05pm
Manolo

The humble Marie Antoinette:
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/michelle-obama-president-young-leaders-2018-3

Michelle Obama wants to create ‘thousands of mes’ — and she’s not interested in running for president.
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March 3, 2018 8:06am
Huevon

Lol. She has risen the Auckland housing market into the gentrified (and predominantly white) former working class suburb of Sandringham. What’s wrong with one of the new developments in New Lynn, or Manakau or out west? Diversity for thee, but not for me.
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March 3, 2018 8:08am
- alex Masterley
  
  Sorry Huevon, Sandringham ducked the bullet.
  She’s moved into Balmoral a suburb full of people climbing the social ladder in search of the bach boat and BWMer.
  
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  March 4, 2018 6:31am
KKKKatee

I see WO is at it again, defending his rights to be a nasty bastard. A reader has challenged him regarding his hit on Bill English yesterday. Scanning through the reply from Slater, he’s digging a hole for himself. Actually Cameron, no one really cares about the back story. This is deeply personal to you obviously, but by coming out swinging reminds me of a very nasty Staff member we have who has just dug a bloody big hole for herself with her vindictiveness and abuse, that she has nowhere to go but out the door! After a while, people just become tired of the tedious behaviour, they just stop listening. Get over it. Move on. You’ll end up with an ulcer stewing over past injustices.
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March 3, 2018 8:12am
- The Virgin
  
  Agreed, apart from the odd funny You Tube clip his site is a waste of time. The ‘anger monkey’ is alive and well there (not unlike the Sub-Standard where instead of the ‘anger monkey’ they have the bilious
  ‘angry weka’. Great sport winding her up at times. Long live the VPN 🙂
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:20am
  - CHFR1
    
    Having read that as Cam would say “explaining is losing” and he seems to be a little long winded in his explanation.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:08am
    - Kimbo
      
      Yep. And its seems Cam doesn’t take kindly to when a politician applies Whale Oil’s third rule of politics:
      
      3. Never hug a corpse – it smells and you end up smelling like the corpse too.
      
      …to either him or his family! 😉
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:31am
  - GazzaW
    
    Does Slater still produce the figures on NZ blog readership? Kiwiblog GD numbers seem to be consistently ahead of WO’s GD and Backchat and there appear to be less and less of the familiar posters’ names featured.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:16am
    - Piniwi
      
      Funny that GazzaW how the click numbers are conspicuous by their absence after being a regular brag line. Comments have been bushwhacked by the spam like begging message that heads them up and many know the signs of what is pending when they stoop to Monkey surveys.
      
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      March 3, 2018 2:37pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Oh dear. There aren’t many toys left in the cot now.
  
  I could have advised them on strategy…
  I could have been inside the tent…
  I could destroy English’s reputation…
  I have issues …
  They don’t understand me …
  
  Self-absorbed twat
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:31am
  - KKKKatee
    
    He is going to write a book and dish the dirt on English and Key – UTU in trailer loads.
    Wondering if he’s planning to do a book-signing tour with it as well.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:14am
    - niggly
      
      There won’t be a book – he always makes these threats that never eventuate.
      
      After a while it gets tedious especially for long time readers and supporters – one starts to realise one is being strung along …
      
      Newbies are suckered in though – suppose that’s all that matters …
      
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      March 3, 2018 11:04am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      I expect Slater’s take-down of Bill English will end the same way as his tangle with Jesse Ryder, but only take half the time.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:02pm
- Chris R
  
  Cam’s answer was (to be polite) cloying. Before I’d condemn it I suggest we all take the time to compare the inter-change between the reader and the blog-owner at WO and the manner with which it would have been (mis)handled at the Standard. The Standard would have been unlikely to have acknowledged the reasonable observations of the reader, but had it done so the reply would’ve been littered with ad-hominems and abuse. At WO there was no abuse nor spite from either. It was a fair question and one which I consider to have been well debated. I think Cam has some baggage towards National but who hasn’t ever developed an antagonism towards a Party? I detest Labour with all the energy I can maintain!
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:44am
- peterwn
  
  It seems to go back to the time when John Slater lost the National Party Presidency to Michelle Boag. He was on the Kim Hill show soon afterwards and indicated he was gracious in defeat. However it seems that John was deeply resentful at the time. Seems this rubbed off on to Cam who had his own difficulties at the time. So Cam has had it in for Michelle and Bill English (deputy leader at the time, leader soon after) ever since.
  Cam is still hammering away at Simon Bridges. Seems he will not be content with any leader except Judith Collins. I hope Judith keeps her distance from Cam as John Key did after coming in for criticism (Cam was resentful that John Key cut him off).
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:48am
  - Chris R
    
    I don’t disagree. Two thoughts though: Why would the treatment of the father have made such a profound effect on the son without the original treatment being repeated post the father’s removal from the Presidency? (Were I Cam and felt the way I see he does, then I’d have stayed in the Party and sought revenge from within.) Secondly, I recall the Kim Hill interview and Mr Slater was gracious despite the acidic rain of ill-thought questions being dumped on him by the needlessly aggressive Hill. How that self-enveloped creature retains her job evades me?
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:17am
    - Happychappy
      
      I am absolutely surprised it took National so long to cancel his membership, the other message he has allowed is people to use the same comments to support him from the person writing the open letter that he would normally bar people for.
      
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      March 3, 2018 11:05am
    - KevOB
      
      Can anyone explain Cam? I am concerned about his mental health. he has dropped into unreason.
      
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      March 3, 2018 1:37pm
      - Chris R
        
        I blame the former moderator “Pete” who adopted his role with complete unreason and brutish dictates. It is fair enough to moderate a blog but this Pete guy stole the humour and irreverence from the blog which had attracted many to it at the outset. I do not know what Cam’s mental state is.
        
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        March 3, 2018 2:02pm
    - Gravelroad
      
      Gee, is Mr Slater senior still alive?
      If I were him I would be having a serious word with Slater junior about airing all this personal angst on the WO blog. It’s embarrassing.
      Comments on WO were initially rather critical, but now a cohort of regulars has been moved to offer emotional support for the “Boss” – cringe.
      It’s one thing to stick up for your Dad, but another to allow ego to cloud your judgement to this extent on a public forum, IMHO.
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:28pm
  - niggly
    
    @ Peterwn. Whilst I like Judith and believe she can be a formidable politician, her weakness is her lack of self-awareness, which sees her do things that costs her public support.
    
    I doubt she will keep her distance from Cameron, due to her lack of self awareness and look at what her blind support to him has given her – as well as being stood down as a Minister, being at his receiving end of undermining her Govt and losing power and being turfed into Opposition, I believe she can add in losing National’s leadership (again) to the trifecta.
    
    If Judith (and Cameron) had any sense she would have declared her interest in becoming National’s Deputy Leader. Why? Because she never had the numbers to become Leader (despite WO’s spin), as WO’s constant attacking of all her fellow MP’s and therefore potential supporters didn’t help her cause either.
    
    She could have become Deputy Leader (timing wise it would have made sense for Paula to step down eg fresh leadership package), raised her public profile and cemented her power and grown her support base, and look to take over the leadership in the future!
    
    But no silly WO thinks he knows better and silly Judith drinks the WO Kool-aid and gets f***ed over again and again and again ….
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:24am
    - Viking2
      
      Read thru this and check the Orivida bit. Collins will never be leader.
      
      https://croakingcassandra.com/2018/03/01/new-zealand-and-the-prc-links-and-questions/
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:12pm
- oldpark
  
  Rumour has it he is still running scared when he got a wake up call from NZs self appointed Dictator Peters. Peters wanted a please explain on why he was calling him the unemployed pensioner from St Marys Bay Auckland.
  Since that obviously “no threat” phone call ,or was it a legal notice to desist,the Fijian born ratbag has been arse licking Peters to the point of what is going on.Go figure.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:48am
  - peterwn
    
    I suspect it is more likely he is finding Winston useful.
    Bill English played a significant part in having Winston kicked out of the National Caucus as I remember and so seems to have it in for Bill, which suits Cam’s purposes.
    Cam is one of those who thinks National needs to ‘harden up’ which is why he supports Judith Collins for leader and also saw a National / NZ First coalition as providing this hardening up particularly on immigration. He would also have thought that Winston would have insisted on Bill’s removal as leader as a condition of coalition. He underpinned this by arguing that Winston would never have the Greens in a coalition, but he was mistaken here. He then had to do some backpedalling arguing that National missed out by not meeting Winston’s last demand. So Cam cannot go on the attack against Winston without losing lots of face. Both are on the legal warpath in their own ways using the same lawyer.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:14am
- Paulus
  
  Surely the only way for WO is to join the Standard – they are very complementary in their approach.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:49am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The standard eats kittens so there are no cute videos; it would never work aside from too many opinionated egos in one room
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:08am
- Inandout
  
  I agree, let it go Cam. It is little wonder he developed shingles (at such a young age) with all the stress he puts himself through. If I churned at all my being on the receiving end of injustices I would be in a grave by now. It usually comes to pass that those who shit on me get it back in spade fulls; I think it is called karma.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:53am
  - GazzaW
    
    I pity anyone with shingles as it often develops into facial neuralgia for which there is no cure or effective pain relief and the level of pain is intense.
    
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    March 3, 2018 2:37pm
- freemark
  
  Yep, he’s a pretty sick boy. Nice to be loyal to your parents but there were some very good reasons why Slater Sen. fell very out of favour. Cam still wants to divert attention from the damage he did to Nats by his sheer incompetence around DP and that other idiot he got tied up with. Suspect his mental health issues are far deeper than a bit of depression. Pretty sure if he starts lobbing shells at English etc there will be some very heavy return fire, he knows it and the frustration he feels from impotence tends to tip him towards the deep end. Would almost have a bit of sympathy but he is turning into a nasty vindictive little man.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:05am
- Biscuit
  
  KKKKatee, any day now it’ll be ‘Boo hoo! That Bridges chap didn’t take my call! How dare he snub such an important chap like me. National needs a new leader! Oooh, who springs to mind?…’
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:09am
  - KKKKatee
    
    As a reader commented here yesterday. Slater will ‘white ant’ Bridges into irrelevance. Simon Bridges wasn’t my first choice of Leader, but the more I see of him and hear from him, I like what I see. He’s very smart and articulate, despite his accent. He’ll be able to shoot the PM down in flames because his background as a Crown Prosecutor means he understands the relevance of getting the facts straight. And his wife is elegant and classy as well, dare I say it. Her PR background is an asset to him.
    There is nothing of relevance in the PM’s boyfriend’s background that makes him an asset to her that I can deduce. Rather more a liability in the long term.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:38am
    - peterwn
      
      There is nothing wrong with being the underdog at present. Far better that the Coalition and their media lackeys underestimate him.
      When at High School I helped with butts on a rifle range during a competition. I was slow but methodical and this upset the contestant so the boss showed me how I had to act fast. Very soon I could note the score, set the signal tag, get the target down, the bullet hole pasted over, and the target up in double quick time – no more complaints. The contestants queried the result a few times (which is quite normal) but was not ‘over-ruled’ once. Simon Bridges will be like that – off to a slow start but when up to speed – watch out!
      One of Simon’s skills would have been addressing juries – people from a wide range of backgrounds. So he already has some initial skills addressing a very large jury – the electors. His big problem is he will have to make do with a third rate megaphone.
      
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      March 3, 2018 10:41am
      - Ross12
        
        How much time did he spend as a Crown Prosecutor?
        
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        March 3, 2018 11:28am
      - peterwn
        
        Ross12 – Simon was a Crown Prosecutor for 7 years in Tauranga mainly doing jury trials. He did spend some of the 7 years on Professional Development. Simon could well have ended up a Supreme Court Judge if he had continued his legal career.
        
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        March 3, 2018 12:02pm
    - RF
      
      Our new PM and her fisherman mate are what my dear late Granny used to call. ” Mutton dressed up as lamb.”
      
      Watching her Eliza Doolittle antics and “I want that” when she see shiny baubles, reminds me of a naive country girl wearing hand me down clothing on her first visit to the big city. So uncouth and not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
      
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      March 3, 2018 11:40am
      - GoVege
        
        She looked pretty classy on her visit to Oz….
        
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        March 3, 2018 12:20pm
      - GoVege
        
        And even though pregnant!!
        
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        March 3, 2018 1:31pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Perhaps KKKKKatee your impressions of Bridges might take a hit after his first appearance on the TV talk shows today. Greens are good and thought some prisoners got to vote and had no idea of what was in a bill related to this issue. He certainly is the B team leader as supporters flee and funds are held over in the hope of better options.
      
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      March 3, 2018 2:52pm
      - Gabby
        
        7 years as crown prossy and what big crims did Slick Britches put away?
        
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        March 3, 2018 8:07pm
- VicParking
  
  If you have to explain you loose. If you need 500 odd words to explain you have lost. SB has been keeping WO sedated and in a straight jacket after his ravings lately but this just goes to show that he has truely lost his mind this time and a few weeks if Fiji wont fix it. If I had to sum up his article in one word it would be “Disgusting”.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:10am
  - Piniwi
    
    Sorry VP they are a loosing team as she has developed a habit of a click bait headline for a brief item of no significance simply to repeat the begging spam ahead of comments. These are easy recognisable by virtually Zero comments as seen in the index listing. Also ad levels seem to have dropped away as well which is something subscribers are oblivious to.
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:03pm
- Sofia
  
  Slater can sometimes intrigue, but with the same fucking annoying sense as Winston “I, of course, know more than you do”.
  Example: this morning ending his rant he says “Their roles will be revealed in due course, including the real reason John Key left parliament.”
  
  Then a couple of days ago, in response to a comment about Bennett between 2014 to 2016 being Minister of Social Housing, Cameron Slater replies, “She was busy getting associates to buy up social housing being sold by the government. It will eventually come out … then she is goneburgers” – https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/02/whaleoil-backchat-1457/#disqus_thread
  
  When he is still awaiting the result of Craig v Slater, one wonders about him baiting Bennett.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:42am
  - alex Masterley
    
    I have been waiting for that decision. Hopefully Justice Toogood will come up with a decision that deflates the egos of both Slater and Craig (which is why it is taking so long to produce) and possibly make their heads explode.
    
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    March 4, 2018 6:38am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  His bully pulpit, his rules.
  
  It’s funny how many go there just to be offended by what he says, and report back here. Slightly SJW-ish behaviour?
  
  There is a solution, and one that will harm WOBH more than creating extra traffic for him by flagging it here!
  
  Just don’t go there – simple!
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:49am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Yup, I will never ever visit the site again. Used to be a daily ritual, and often a source of rebuke from the wife. As an aside, it was through WO that I came across kiwiblog. He needs to learn to ignore online abuse, as I have. I used to get angry, now I just poke the borax or insult the idiots, but I have learnt that the online world, especially where it is anonymous, is not reality. Rightoverlabour does not really exist, so can’t really be affected. (Obviously, this is not the same for the brave people like Maggy and others, who do exist).
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:25am
  - peterwn
    
    No. People including Simon’s staffers need to keep an eye on WO. Also I see nothing wrong in commenting on WO here especially as any excessive arguing may have you banned and in any case people may not want to enhance WO with thoughtful comments.
    This is freedom of expression pure and simple.
    
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    March 3, 2018 1:49pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Perhaps DP but the trick is in the click. Remove the WOBH bookmark from your browser and go indirectly.
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:07pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Perceived injustices?
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:57am
- howitis
  
  Slater will spout anything and not stand behind it weeks later.
  He bagged Winston Peters for years then became his advocate last year.
  Truth is not currency is his myopic world.
  
  >>>He did a hit on the Headmaster at Kristin School and even the courts recorded it was a bunch of lies.
  From various MSM sources:-
  …..A lawyer who embarked on a vindictive campaign to destroy her former husband’s career and win a property dispute could be found guilty of misconduct and lose her license.
  Cameron Slater’s blog Whale Oil was embroiled in Jeanne Denham’s campaign, which involved her working with public relations consultant Carrick Graham to provide press releases for publication on the blog….
  …. Ms Denham took a private prosecution against Mr Clague after police declined to lay charges over the alleged assault…..But the court case was thrown out when a judge found it to be an abuse of process intended to damage Mr Clauge and Kristin School, and to be used as leverage for Ms Denham to win a property dispute between the pair. She was ordered to pay nearly $146,000 in costs, which remains outstanding after she declared herself bankrupt…..
  ….The judgment said that in October 2012, Denham engaged the services of Carrick Graham, a public relations consultant known for his connections to Whaleoil blogger Cameron Slater, who arranged for pieces to be published that were highly critical of her former husband….
  
  >>>That is who Slater is.
  The slug hits on people who have done him no harm and sets out to destroy lives.
  
  >>>Slater’s moral high ground is not that high. He cheated on his wife.
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10813552
  ….Prominent media commentator Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater has been outed for an extra-marital affair by a court judgment this week.
  The affair between Slater and Debbie Brown was revealed in an Auckland District Court judgment detailing a bitter fallout between Brown and her former friend Jacqueline Sperling. Both women have been linked to shock-jock Michael Laws: Sperling is a former girlfriend and Brown is a woman he was seen out with….
  oh dear, oh dear, oh dear
  …The short affair was around the end of 2010 and ended when Slater spent a Christmas holiday with his wife and family. Brown had then told Slater’s wife of the affair….
  
  >>>He can’t be bothered to fact check :-
  https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/01/sorry-love-monster/
  … Oriwa Kemp, the mother of Nia Glassie, the little child who was tortured to death on her watch, has done a ‘cry me a river of tears’ interview with the NZ Herald….
  
  Kemp was not Nia Glassie’s mother in that tragic and sordid set of events.
  Slater can’t be bothered with the most basic fact checking so who knows where reality lies when he rants.
  He just spouts off and direct copy/pastes from the newspaper he professes to hate and be better than. Duh!
  
  >>>His people judgement is poor. Slater is so dull he got hoodwinked by the flighty Ben Rachinger.
  Slater spent a lot of time explaining his loss there despite ‘explaining is losing’.
  Not very credible.
  
  Slater likes to burn his mates so never get too close.
  >>> He even cheated on his wife after this loyalty:-
  http://www.newshub.co.nz/general/slaters-wife-says-depression-fuels-bloggers-erratic-behaviour-2010053018
  30 May 2010
  …The controversial blogger who repeatedly broke court orders and published suppressed names has been forced to sell his home.
  Cameron Slater’s wife has revealed its mental illness that has fuelled his erratic behaviour online.
  For the last six years Juana has been battling to save her home and her marriage.
  Her husband, WhaleOil blogger Cameron Slater, was diagnosed with depression in 2004 and has been using the internet on the advice of a psychologist as a tool to vent his anger…..
  
  >>>Slater has no problem doing a hit on his mates:
  Why even last month he slagged off the host of KiwiBlog, David Farrar.
  You don’t have to go far to find his special brand of poison.
  https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/02/bishop-victim-blue-blue-attack/
  …Cam Slater mod > XCIA • 3 hours ago
  Who did Bills numbers when he lost to Don Brash?
  XCIA > Cam Slater • 3 hours ago
  Absolutely no idea. I am going on what I heard first hand with my own ears. I am aware that almost nothing seems as it should in the dirty world of politics, but I still am surprised at Labour supporters blagging their own when there was equal opportunity to blag Bill?
  Cam Slater mod > XCIA • 3 hours ago
  Farrar did…counted wrong too.
  
  Why anyone would get close to this trainwreck let alone give him money to continue his hate, I do not know.
  
  All this information is in the public domain at today’s date.
  His personal profile on his own blog is rather fantasist.
  https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/who-is-cameron-slater/
  …Cam Slater, otherwise known as Whale Oil, is New Zealand’s number one blogger.
  His no-holds barred approach has seen him transform his blog so that he now
  provides the leading commentary on New Zealand politics.
  
  Cam is sought after as a radio host, commentator and interviewer. He is a regular
  contributor on Newstalk ZB, Radio Live, Radio Rhema and TV3’s The Nation due to
  his proven resourcefulness in knowing what’s going on behind the scenes, often
  before anyone else.
  
  He is well known for beating the traditional mainstream media to stories, finding a
  new angle on existing stories and breaking political scandals wide open. Whale Oil
  is now so popular that it is closing in on a million page views per month.
  Cam maintains trusted relationships across the political, media and business worlds that help inform his stories making them more relevant for his readers.
  That is the public side to Cam Slater. He’s also known to be a compassionate Christian man who volunteers his time and expertise to a number of community organisations. He loves his family and his hunting, and is fascinated by politics and
  all things military. He is a man’s man in the best possible way….
  
  That is so LSD far out where does one start?
  It looks like there is a place out there called Planet Slater and the Hubble telescope has not found it yet. It is far far away!
  
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  March 3, 2018 11:10am
  - oldpark
    
    What an indictment.He measures up to another bunch of clowns in NZ who are just too sweet to be wholesome.A case of check your fingers,should you ever be conned into a handshake with such riff raff.Nuff said.
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:41am
  - Nermal
    
    Wow, who’s the resentful one then?
    
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    March 3, 2018 2:33pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Wow howitis that is only chapter 1 we suspect.
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:11pm
- KevOB
  
  I’ve stopped dropping by too.
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:33pm
- niggly
  
  Having read the readers’ letter he writes a very good and considered letter!
  
  As for WO’s long winded response, I’m sorry but what a load of crap – has he ever thought to think that perhaps his personal attacks on the National Party executive (and threats over the years to expose and release dirt on them) and senior MP’s might have, ya know, played some part in them wanting to distance him from the Party? FFS it’s not rocket science!
  
  WO used to write years ago that even his father used to tell him to tone it down (the attacks on National – which can’t have been helping his cause too post-Party leadership – presumably he could potentially be seen as leaking to WO and thus undermining etc) and WO would refuse because “he answers to no-one” etc! No wonder why National disassociated themselves from WO (apart from Judith of course)!
  
  Anyway everything now can be summed up as this. At the 2014 election John Key publicly thanked DPF for his polling insights helping National win that election. No doubt WO was pissed off – because WO has even stated it was he who won the election for National!!!
  
  Ever since then WO has actively and overtly campaigned to destroy National, starting with the 2015 Northland by-election and his promotion of Winston Peters and NZF etc.
  
  And it won’t stop now that Key and English are gone because WO now wants the impossible – a clean-out of every MP and Party official etc. That’s what people (and WO commentators) are being sucked into (eg “we have to destroy National to save it” etc).
  
  Umm no thanks, and I don’t want the consequences which will be Labour/Green Govts etc!
  
  It’s easy to hate than to love sometimes – but I feel if WO could better channel his energy in supporting the establishment of a new “decent” right-wing Party then he will achieve something truly impressive (now that ACT and the Conservatives are 1% Party’s). Perhaps Judith Collins could lead it? After all National needs support partners and they would give the hens teeth for something else to emerge. Because of that, think of the power they could wield!
  
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  March 3, 2018 3:52pm
  - Viking2
    
    I guess my worry would be all the guns such an unstable person has access to.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:22pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Blog etiquette says commenters should not use the blog to criticise the blog owner and that’s fair enough.
    The writer of the letter has contacted Slater privately to express his concern and has been held up as ‘look what I have to put up with’
    No one criticises the Slater. No one.
    Not on the blog. Not ever.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:56pm
Manolo

This African shit-hole is about to get far worse:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5443599/White-South-African-farmers-removed-land.html#ixzz58VXEVgp7

White South African farmers will be removed from their land after a landslide vote in parliament. The country’s constitution is now likely to be amended to allow for the confiscation of white-owned land without compensation, following a motion brought by radical Marxist opposition leader Julius Malema.

It passed by 241 votes for to 83 against after a vote on Tuesday, and the policy was a key factor in new president Cyril Ramaphosa’s platform after he took over from Jacob Zuma in February.
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March 3, 2018 8:14am
- Scott
  
  Yes this is a terrible policy and is really “reverse apartheid”. Blacks are oppressing whites.
  Once a government starts confiscating land that is the end of the rule of law and of property rights.
  I predict the nation of South Africa will continue its downhill slide but much more rapidly. Comparisons to Venezuela are pretty apt as that’s what I predict South Africa will be like in less than 5 years.
  Who knew that all of us apartheid protestor in 1981 would witness South Africa in 2018 doing the exact same thing. The people who were oppressed rise up and become the oppressors themselves. Sad!
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:14am
  - Harkman
    
    “Comparisons to Venezuela are pretty apt”
    
    100 years ago or even more recently, SA had the soundest currency in the world. My bet is that hyperinflation is coming.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:36am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      1n 1970 it was R1 = $1.65 Now its R1 = $0.083. (Jacindarella – are you paying attention?)
      Where South Africa is potentially worse than Zim or Venezuela is the ease at which violence suddenly takes hold and literally thousands die in days. The cunt Malema is quite happy to “slaughter” the whites. He has been quoted as saying so.
      
      https://citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/1338292/wont-slaughter-whites-now-malema/
      
      Just google “malema slaughter whites”
      
      (This is in case stephieboy and other commie bastards want evidence)
      
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      March 3, 2018 10:37am
      - Harkman
        
        rightoverlabour, perfect, but if you look in some of the old Federal Reserve Bulletins under the Foreign exchange section from the 1920s-1950s there was real strength there (I realise that the Rand is a decimilisation of the old pound). A decade ago US$1=R5-6, basket case.
        
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        March 3, 2018 11:21am
  - GazzaW
    
    The whole of the southern African continent is an almost ripe apple ready to drop into Chinese hands. Malawi, Zambia, Mozambique and Tanzania are already financial colonies with massive Chinese investments in mining, farming and infrastructure. Zuma and his crooked predecessors have sold or mortgaged pretty much everything sellable and all that’s left now of value is white farm lands. They will disguise the appropriations as returning the land to its rightful owners but it will end up with the crooked pollies who in turn will shift it on and further fatten up their Swiss bank accounts. The Congo, Zaire, Zimbabwe and the polyglot of Western African nations are all ripe for the plucking.
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:39am
    - GazzaW
      
      In the 80’s a NZ dollar bought just 50 SA cents. It now buys almost 9 SA rand. It makes it incredibly difficult for Saffas to emigrate with sufficient funds to start their lives again. These land confiscations must ring major alarm bells for white South Africans. What next? Confiscation of bank accounts? It all reminds me too much of Germany in the 1930s and their treatment of the Jews. I wonder if NZ will be more accepting of SA white and coloured refugees than they were of German and Austrian Jews in the 30s.
      
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      March 3, 2018 11:46am
    - Piniwi
      
      Interesting GazzaW it that why the UN are supplying weapons and training people with a soft sort of military training as shown on Aljazeera.
      
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      March 3, 2018 3:16pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  No need to worry though!
  
  The bastion of ~~muslim apologism~~ moral rectitude and justice – the UN – will no doubt be drafting up a resolution condemning the vile, oppressive government for their racially motivated policy of land seizures.
  
  Oh wait! I forgot. In the modern insano-PC world YOU CAN’T BE RACIST IF YOU ARE BLACK
  and
  YOU CAN’T BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST IF YOU ARE WHITE.
  
  Colonialism looks pretty close to saintliness compared to what self-government by black Africans delivers!
  
  Still let’s get on with bumping up the refugee quota to 5000 per year so we can get on with bringing black African savages in from black African shitholes so that we can enjoy the diversity dividends like Zimbabwe and now South Africa are!
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:54am
- KKKKatee
  
  It’s politically incorrect to call a country a ‘shit hole’ dontcha know? The SJW’s will be after your hide, not to mention the PM who objects to the term ‘shit hole’. I think the term gives a very accurate description and I have no objection to the use of it.
  Thanks Trumpy. Some things you get right even if you aren’t as orange as the PM thinks.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:02am
  - Manolo
    
    Yes, but wild and lawless South Africa is one hell of a mess any way you look at it! 🙂
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:44am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Agree.
      
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      March 3, 2018 12:59pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  I’m sure everyone here noticed that when Labour’s resident shill, ztev, was challenged on his ambivalence to this issue and on aspects of his party subscribing to similar measures here; he went very coy.
  
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  March 3, 2018 12:25pm
EAD_TWO

Isn’t it terrifying that so many “far right” people have been providing constant evidence for months about the plight of white people in South Africa and it got ignored and people flat out denied it, but as soon as MSM start reporting with the exact same evidence, people suddenly listen.

Well if we don’t stop, then reverse 3rd world immigration to White countires we are all going to find ourselves as a minorities in our own countries and we’ll get it just as bad. Just look what European people’s suffer now as an absolute majority.

#whitegenocide
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March 3, 2018 8:15am
- holysheet
  
  Oh dear, EAD is not as popular as the MSM. Who would have thought?
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:19am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO,
  
  “Just look what European people’s suffer now as an absolute majority.”
  
  Like white genocide here in Aotearoa New Zealand ?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWhAoZZh8fc
  
  LOL !
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:44am
  - Harkman
    
    The funny thing SB is that there is no actual evidence Aotearoa is the name of NZ. It is most likely the Northern Maori name for the North Island.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:40am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Harkman,
      
      The thing is, there doesn’t need to be any historical or linguistic foundation for the name of “Aotearoa.”
      If the people want that name to replace “New Zealand” and the government (through its sovereign powers) officially change the name of this country, then Aotearoa it is.
      Youngsters will never know the difference, and in a generation will think how quaint the anglicized name of the Dutch “New West Holland” must have sounded.
      Names of places are part of our shared history, and I do not care for the re-naming of familiar places simply to suit the current fashion.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:57am
      - Jack5
        
        Odakyu-sen, true, but you can’t force foreign people to apply the name you choose for your country.
        
        Do Japanese call Japan something like ” Nippon-koku”?
        
        The Chinese word for China, 中国, sounds nothing like our “China”.
        
        Imagine trying to rebrand our exports: Aotearoa lamb, Aotearoa kiwifruit, and so on.
        
        To a foreign consumer unfamiliar with the Maori language, “Aotearoa” is exotic and a challenge to pronounce.
        
        If they get macrons on it, it’s harder still.
        
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        March 3, 2018 2:23pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Jack5,
        
        In Japan, “Japan” is referred to as “Nihon.”
        
        It’s a bit like the Finnish calling their country “Suomi” when English speakers call it “Finland.”
        
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        March 3, 2018 3:08pm
    - KevOB
      
      Which tribe, if any?
      
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      March 3, 2018 2:11pm
    - 3-coil
      
      Harkman (9:40am) – correct. Sir Apirana Ngata was emphatic that aotearoa = North Island only. But to many/most now, apparently, they know better than him – seems he didn’t know shit from clay.
      
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      March 3, 2018 2:40pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    So to clarify Stephieboy; you are comfortable with the notion of governments seizing land without compensation from their legal occupiers?
    
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    March 3, 2018 12:26pm
- VicParking
  
  There but for one Generation goes New Zealand?
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:11am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Yes.
    
    Older white residents of Howick may be perplexed by the Cantonese they hear all around them, but to their grandchildren, this is normal.
    
    It is all they have ever known.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:11am
    - Jack5
      
      Meanwhile, Cantonese in southern China is under a little pressure from Beijing, which would rather everyone spoke Putonghua (Mandarin).
      
      Perhaps, Howick will be one of the last strongholds of Cantonese, which is a rich language, but with its at least six tones, is difficult for us gweilo.
      
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      March 3, 2018 3:38pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Funny VP that is the third world location retired to struggles to know where NZ is. Frequently get asked where do you come? The proud customary response a Kiwi from NZ. Asked in return “do you know where that is?” They have no idea or say near Europe.
    Thus the new response is “Oh I Come From Alabama With My Banjo On My Knee” sung with silent banjo accompaniment. It is more relevant to my online music business than my homeland while it leads to buyers.
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:28pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  David Seymour wanted to bring a motion in Parliament censuring the SA government for land-grabbing (you know the way the English did to the Maori in the 1800s) – and Labour voted it down.
  
  So we watched the mess that happened in Zimbabwe with this sort of evil behaviour, and now we’re seeing history repeat itself and that’s OK???
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:59am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  EAD_TWO,
  
  You are confusing “genocide” with “colonization.” They are not the same thing (although some scholars would argue that they are correlated).
  
  I believe that a sovereign power ought not to foster colonization within its borders.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:01am
The Virgin

Getting REALLY pissed off with amount of ‘wasters’ begging on the streets in Wellington. Socialist Council, Socialist Government, no end of $ being dished out to the losers and still get hassled every day. I tell them all to get off their arses, drop the P and get a job but for some reason they take no notice..
Perhaps some cold weather will ‘reduce the plague’…
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March 3, 2018 8:16am
- NZpatriot
  
  Some day a rain will come and wash all the scum off the streets.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:57am
  - Swifty
    
    Some day a real rain will come……
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IAJFCxAP_Y
    
    🙂
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:39am
- DigNap15
  
  In Europe they say the recent snow storms have culled a few.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:16am
- Harkman
  
  Same in Chch, it’s a bloody plague. Homeless charity groups have said virtually none are homeless.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:43am
  - Pongo
    
    ChCh is a disgrace, half rebuilt as it is we now have the good bits littered with “homeless’ beggars who arnt homeless at all.
    I saw one woman coming out of her house (wearing a pink onesie which is why she stood out) and then an hour later tripped over her begging outside Ballantynes.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:01am
    - RF
      
      I am aware that several “homeless beggars” used to drive to a Countdown car park just before lunch. They then pushed a supermarket trolley containing blankets etc down to a busy shopping centre to set up shop and commence their 2 hour begging.
      
      Bastards.
      
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      March 3, 2018 12:11pm
      - backster
        
        I suggest Miss Arderne be asked to have a conversation with them.
        
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        March 3, 2018 1:06pm
      - KevOB
        
        I know one who made $150/2hr day.
        
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        March 3, 2018 2:13pm
- Gabby
  
  Sure you do.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:18pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I’d like to see street beggars hit by multi-disciplinary flying squads with WINZ, Mental Health, Addiction services, housing officials, and Police represented.
  Why are they there?
  Is it need or greed?
  Assist or prosecute.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:20pm
lilman

Met recently with a high ranking IRD official socially.
Hadnt met for years.
White ,married and kids.
Was blown away with his attitude.
Comments he made included,

We finally have a government that listens to the people.

It is our job to push through their policies and ensure that going forward none are left behind.

Whats gone on in the past was racial and we have to set it right through redistribution.

Never again will White middle class New Zealand strip the downtrodden of their mana.

Seriously I kid you not, this is a true account of this conversation.
Can only say we didnt stay long.Especially after I informed him that I work hard,dont steal,dont do drugs,advise my kids and pay enough tax already.
As well as its not his job to push doctrine but to collect tax off workers who actually do shit.

This show me what a disconnected group that are being employed by government departments.
Socialism is theft and it seems they have employed the correct people to carry out that robbery.
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March 3, 2018 8:22am
- Gravelroad
  
  Redistribution of income, land nationalisation and state control of the means of production are communist party doctrines.
  It is almost here now.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:40am
  - stephieboy
    
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    And the forced collectivisation of Agriculture Stalin styled ??
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivization_in_the_Soviet_Union#/media/File:“Strengthen_working_discipline_in_collective_farms”_–_Uzbek,_Tashkent,_1933_(Mardjani).jpg
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:47am
    - cmm
      
      Be careful who you associate with stephie.
      
      The comrades might be labeled a counter-revolutionary and we wouldn’t want that.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GTVV6XHfP4
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:53am
      - stephieboy
        
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        cmm , get life
        
        NZ overrun by a resurrected Cheka/ NKVD / KGB !
        
        Sheesh
        
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        March 3, 2018 8:59am
    - Manolo
      
      Are you well, stephieboy?
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:07am
      - geoff3012
        
        His goats buggered off
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:50am
      - GazzaW
        
        No. His tweeny objects of desire have grown up and been married off.
        
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        March 3, 2018 11:57am
    - Harkman
      
      Here’s a concept for you SB, people keep what they earn and pay for what they use. Revolutionary.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:45am
      - GoVege
        
        And we also pay for those who are unwell or disabled, or have been abused, bereaved or abandoned.
        But we should stop paying thieves and drug addicts to drag up multiple kids.
        
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        March 3, 2018 12:45pm
- Wayne Mapp
  
  Well, I guess public servants all have their own political views, and some are pretty left. I guess he was one of them, with an added racial chip on his shoulder.
  
  But just looking at what he said about redistribution. It is not as if IRD unilaterally sets tax rates. They can’t operate outside their own law.
  
  You can’t get a different redistribution of income without changing taxes. So far that is not part of the Labour plan, in fact Jacinda would be breaching her 2017 electoral commitments if she increased taxes.
  
  Labour talks a big game but they don’t have the tools to implement much of it. In fact that will soon be her obvious failure. Promising nirvana but delivering not much.
  
  Will Labour campaign on increased taxes in 2020 or implementing a CGT? Especially if the economy has weakened, for which they will wear the blame?
  
  It will certainly be Simon’s chance to do a Rob Muldoon on Labour. Since that is what he has to do; beat Labour after just one term, just as Rob did in 1975.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:32am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Loved the Dancing Cossack adverts back then. So appropriate once more. If the move to the left wasn’t so serious for the population, the antics of the left would be hilarious. Sadly, if they get their way nobody will be laughing. ? ? ?
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:39am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Wayne; I suspect Ardern won’t see out a full term so will avoid any justifiable criticism.
    
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    March 3, 2018 12:29pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    I have not heard that Simon is an alcoholic.
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:35pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Knew a bloke who worked for the IRD once, he had to lie about his occupation at social events, cos` when he mentioned to people he`d just met where he worked they`d just turn around and walk away.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:47am
- KKKKatee
  
  “I have a dream” says the PM. “And I want all those rich bastards brought down a peg or two to make way for the poor and useless who are too lazy to get off their arses and take some responsibility for themselves. But please don’t tell anybody that I’m one of those rich bastards now and loving it! I’m rooting for the poor I am”.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:53am
- GoVege
  
  The man is partly right, lilman.
  This country was doing WAY better when we supported families to get into their first home, had full employment at a liveable wage and subsidised some basic necessities.
  But he’s dead wrong that it’s racism causing the problems.
  It is actually the culture of the people experiencing racism that invites racist attitudes.
  E.g: 75% of criminal gang members are Maori, yet Maori are only 15 to 17% of the population.
  I have met many families in South Auckland with 11, 14, 16 children.
  Virtually all were Maori….the only exception was a family of 17 raised in the islands where contraception was not available.
  These kids are mostly very neglected, and many turn to gangs for a sense of family.
  It’s Maori who are dragging their own people down.
  
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  March 3, 2018 12:58pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Best contraception, not tonight dear!!!!
    
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    March 3, 2018 5:21pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    stop your man bashing you repressed dyke
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:42pm
- KevOB
  
  That’s not IRD as I know it. Their duty is to collect the revenue efficiently. Beyond that is legislated policy.
  IRD should seek to cause as little distress to taxpayers as possible and be strictly neutral. The discretion vested in the CIR is to facilitate administration not for political usage.
  
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  March 3, 2018 2:19pm
cmm

So what does the change of President in South Africa really mean? Part 2:

Yesterday I contrasted Zuma and Ramaphosa, but now we need to add a third force to the mix: the EFF under Julius Malema.

Malema was part of ANC youth league, but split from the ANC mainly to appeal to the younger hot heads amongst the Northern tribes. The ANC was just too level headed for him. He is a Northern Sotho coming from the area that borders with Zimbabwe.

It’s his birthday tomorrow (3 March). He’s turning 37. Funny age that!

Malema is too young to really remember the apartheid era and, like many of the blacks who were born right at the end of apartheid (or since then), has a very distorted view of what really happened and a heightened sense of outrage.

The area he comes from is also heavily farmed by Afrikaners and you could argue that this is one of the areas where land claims against white farmers are the most legitimate. This is distinctly different from Zuma who lives in Kwa Zulu (formerly Zululand) in an area which has always been Zulu and the land ownership issue is much less important.

Although Malema paints himself as a comrade for the common man, he is worth millions of dollars and has been given gifts of a Range Rover and other cars and has numerous other valuable assets – so is not exactly squeaky clean.

Malema was always on Zuma’s case about the corruption etc. Zuma was an easy target, but Zuma also had that “street cred” of being selected by Mandela and being a leader in the struggle. Can’t really top that when you were in short pants during the struggle.

Now along comes Ramaphosa. In many ways Malema and Ramaphosa are very similar:
* They are neither selected by Mandela, nor were they part of the Umkhoto we Sizwe.
* They are both from Nothern tribes with no affinity with the Zulus and Xhosa (Zulus being the most powerful tribe, and Xhosa second, together making up about 50% of the back population).
* They have both had their hands deep in the cookie jar, but Ramaphosa has definitely gone deeper.
* They both are keen on land appropriation – a major theme for the Nothern tribes, with it being slightly more important where Malema comes from.
* They are both university educated, so Malema can’t talk about his adversary being ignorant any more.

In many ways they could be natural allies with overlapping causes. But that does not serve the power lust, so they view eachother as political threats.

Malema came out swinging when Ramaphosa took over, labelling him a puppet of the white colonal capitalists etc. Somewhat justified, but Malema might see some of that himself if he looked in the mirror (except most of Malema’s income has been back-handers from people getting government contracts).

When Mandela came to power, people were expecting completely unrealistic change. Many people were expectig to shift from shacks to nice houses with electricity and running water within a few months. Twenty four years on, they are still in shacks. Under Mandela and the “freedom fighters” up to, and including, Zuma, they were still prepared to be respectful. That is unlikely to be extended to Ramaphosa – particularly amongst Zulus and Xhosas. Time has run out to deliver.

This has forced Ramaphosa into the position of saying and acting in ways to diffuse Malema’s accusations and be seen to be forcing change. He also had to distance himself with the past scandals of the mine massacre etc. Thus land appropriation into the big issue and he starts acting on it ASAP to show Ramaposa and the ANC are bringing about the promised change and that he is not the white man’s lackey.

The change of leadership from Zuma to Ramaphosa thus forced the land issue into the limelight.

Ramaphosa has tried to attach a bit of smallprint to the land appropriation, that it must not damage the economy and nor must it threaten food security, etc. However:
* Nobody hears the smallprint. They just hear the bit about land. Wriggling out is dangerous and any reversal will be political suicide.
* The damage is done anyway. What farmer is going to keep operating a farm under those sorts of condition? Where does he get loans from to buy seed, fuel, fertilizer and money to pay and feed his staff? What bank will lend money? What insurance company will insure? From some anecdotes, over 20% of farmland is already idle because of this and no doubt the numbers will be worse this season and even worse next season. That’s 20% less food this season and 20% of farm workers now looking for alternative employment.

There are over half a million farm workers in South Africa (mostly black) with little to no training for any other occupation. Given the size of rural families, that’s probably 2.5 million mouths that depend directly on farm work. If we add on down-stream jobs (people working in rural towns and support industries that depend on agricultural spending, food processing, banking, etc) then it is easy to double that.

Even those farmers that continue to operate are unlikely to invest significantly in new euipment or land development. Why spend millions on a cenral pivot that might get taken from you tomorrow? Anyway, what bank is going to lend you the money? The farms rot, productivity goes down.

So even if land is left in the hands of the white farmers, their position is still fragile and unworkable as are the people who directly depend on them. Game over, either way.

Nor will this remain within areas that are legitimately contested. If white land can be taken up near Zimbabwe, then why not white lands in Kwa Zulu Natal or elsewhere? Arguments about legitimate purchase etc will fall on deaf ears. If the Northern leaders (Ramaphosa etc) are giving land to the Northern people (who might have very legitimate claims) then the Zulus and Xhosa will demand they get land too (even though their claims might be far less legitimate). To have it perceived that the Notherners (scum in the eyes of the Zulu) are getting preferential treatment is going to activate the warrior gene. And nobody has ever done warrior better than the Zulus.

This in itself can easily esculate into tribal conflict – apart from inevitable civil stress caused by the destruction of farms and the resulting food shortages, loss of employment and migration of people.

So in many ways Ramaphosa is worse than Zuma on the farming and food security front. He might be mouthing the soundbites that the Western luvvies want to hear, but what actually happens on the ground is likely to be very different.

I’ll post more if there continues to be interest.
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- stephieboy
  
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  cmm , C & P from where ?
  
  It wont work otherwise mass starvation .
  
  But what to do when the vast majority own only 2% of the land !
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:52am
  - cmm
    
    I wrote every word myself.
    
    Refer to my rebuttal yesterday of your 80% own 2% of the land lie.
    
    Fuckwit.
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:55am
    - stephieboy
      
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      cmm , this gets more closer than the truth than you could be ever capable of ,
      
      “Why Land Seizure Is Back in News in South Africa”
      
      “More than two decades after white-minority rule ended in South Africa, most of its profitable farms and estates are still owned by white people, and about 95 percent of the country’s wealth is in the hands of 10 percent of the population. The ruling African National Congress has vowed to step up wealth distribution and promised “radical economic transformation,” including constitutional changes to allow the government to expropriate land without paying for it.
      
      1. Why is land ownership an issue?
      
      Under the rule of European colonists, South Africa’s Natives Land Act of 1913 stripped most black people of their right to own property, a policy reinforced decades later by the National Party and its system of apartheid, or apartness. A government land audit released in February showed that farms and agricultural holdings comprise 97 percent of the 121.9 million hectares of the nation’s area, and that whites own 72 percent of the 37 million hectares held by individuals. This tallies with the results of a separate audit released Nov. 1 by Agri Development Solutions and farm lobby group AGRI SA, which found non-whites own 27 percent of the nation’s farmland compared with 14 percent in 1994….”
      
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-01/why-land-seizure-is-back-in-news-in-south-africa-quicktake-q-a
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:05am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        You really are idiotic, stupidboy.
        
        Te white owners got the land to be productive rather than slash and burn agriculture, which is destructive.
        Take a look at Zimbabwe, where this policy has been implemented by the murdering Mugabe.
        That’s worked out real well, hasn’t it?
        And you support the same thing to happen in South Africa?
        Fuck off you germ.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:30am
      - labrator
        
        this gets more closer than the truth than you could be ever capable of
        
        You can’t even get basic punctuation right. Why would anyone want your opinion on “truth”?
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:37am
      - Harkman
        
        You forgot that it was the Labour party that helped bring in apartheid in the early 1920s.
        
        “95 percent of the country’s wealth is in the hands of 10 percent”
        
        Which is the same everywhere, US, Sweden, Denmark, Russia, China, Brazil……
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:50am
      - stephieboy
        
        Don the Kiwi , just trying to post historical facts .
        
        How would you feel if your land / house was confiscated under an equivalent of the South Africa’s Lands Act 1913 ?
        
        Why the necessity for vile abuse ? Reveals an incapacity with the capability of reasoned debate !
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:06am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Frustration with your continued ignorance and stupidity, stupiboy.
        Fancy saying that land confiscation is okay for the black majority, but wasn’t in colonial times, when the main intent of the settlers was to make the land productive for the benefit of all.
        
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        March 3, 2018 11:07am
      - cmm
        
        A journalist goes and talks to a bunch of activists and gets a true picture…
        
        Yeah right!
        
        It is disingenuous to only look at land held by individuals. Any true conversation about land should:
        
        1) Include all tribal trust lands. For example 4 million Zulus (8% of the SA population) live on and farm Ingonyama trust land. There are no trust lands for Afrikaners (or other whites).
        2) Not treat land as being of uniform quality. Twenty acres of Karoo is worth less than one acre of Xhosa lands.
        3) Breeding rates: Blacks have bred at about 5 to 10 times what whites have since the 1850s, so clearly their per-person size of the pie is going to shrink.
        
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        March 3, 2018 12:40pm
      - GoVege
        
        “Blacks have bred at 5 to 10 times the rate whites have since the 1850’s”.
        Makes you wonder WHY people would drag up so many kids in poverty.
        I recall during the apartheid era some black leader saying that it didn’t matter how many of their kids were killed…they would be replaced with more in the next generation. (I.e: “cannon fodder”.)
        But the common denominator of all sh*tholes is always the same: the disease of rampant male chauvinism.
        It fuels violence/ overpopulation /poverty/starvation and fighting over land.
        Then of course the sexist cultures want to emigrate to successful western cultures which allow their women to control their fertility, and their own worst excesses of sexism are the subject of the MeToo movement!
        
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        March 3, 2018 1:57pm
      - Duxton
        
        Thank you, GoatBoy.
        
        Has it occurred to you that the reason the farms are profitable is because they are owned by Whites? And how long do you think they will remain profitable in new ownership?
        
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        March 3, 2018 5:06pm
    - Ross12
      
      Keep it coming cmm. Really interesting and I am passing it onto friends.
      As for stephieboy(s) –I think he should Google the word apology but I’m not holding my breath.
      What he has added from Bloomberg does not say anything different from what you have said over the last couple days.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:23am
      - stephieboy
        
        Ross 12 , did cmm mention South Africa’s Lands Act 1913 ?
        
        I very much doubt it !
        
        “The Native Land Act is passed. The Natives Land Act (No. 27 of 1913) was passed to allocate only about 7% of arable land to Africans and leave the more fertile land for whites. This law incorporated territorial segregation into legislation for the first time since Union in 1910.Oct 14, 2015”
        
        http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/native-land-act-passed
        
        In fact cmm highly biased and non factual on many counts .
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:07am
      - cmm
        
        stephie: You might have realised by now this is a blog and not a 5 year history course. I can only paint a broad-brush outline to what is currently going on.
        
        sahistory is a bit like New Zealand’s TeAra. It is not exactly a an unbiassed source.
        
        The idea that only 7% of arable land is in black hands is beyond absurd. The tribal land areas in Kwa Zulu Natal and Transkei areas are more than 7% of South Africa’s land area on their own.
        
        Those are the best areas, which is why the strongest tribes (Zulu and Xhosa) occupy them. They threw everyone else out. If there was better land in South Africa the Zulus would be living there instead. And they are still living there.
        
        So clearly the idea that the whites took the best land is open to some questioning.
        
        The vast majority of the South Africa (area wise) is not really arable land and that forms the bulk of the white land holdings by area.
        
        So sorry SAHistory: liar, liar pants on fire!
        
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        March 3, 2018 3:32pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
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        Is there any end to your ‘whataboutism’ ?
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:30pm
    - Swifty
      
      You deserve an apology cmm.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:29am
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        I figure nobody ever deserves anything.
        
        If you think you deserve an apology you’re just playing a victim card.
        
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        March 3, 2018 4:06pm
    - milkmaid
      
      I am enjoying the posts, cmm, and will be checking back for more.
      
      I generally scroll right past anything by the poster stephieboy, if it hasn’t already disappeared.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:54am
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        mm , even if cmm has posted material that is not factual correct !
        
        Amazing !
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:11am
      - sooty
        
        Dont cry, stephieboy.
        
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        March 3, 2018 11:02am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Don’t engage with stephieboy, he is not worth the effort. Just tell him to fuck off and down tick to oblivion. I wonder if he gets off on all the invective?
      
      Great post, by the way, I don’t keep up with SA politics in detail anymore, but this has me worried about my friends still living there. It’s going to take a miracle for this not to end in a blood bath and there is no Mandela to prevent it.
      
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      March 3, 2018 10:47am
      - GoVege
        
        Free speech, rol, free speech…
        
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        March 3, 2018 1:38pm
  - VicParking
    
    FK Stephie have the Goats stolen your brain was well as your scrotum. ??
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:17am
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      VicBarking has an Ancient Ballbag rubbed you up the wrong way.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:42pm
- Inandout
  
  There was an ex SA woman on Leighton’s show yesterday who communicates with her sister in SA. She says her sister thinks the new leader is great and he doesn’t want to turn the country into another Zimbabwe, just open up unused land to black farmers. Leighton suggested the sister may be subject to being monitored by the government and chooses her words wisely.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:14am
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    When times get desperate, people think of themselves first.
    
    No doubt there are many city dwelling whites who are happy to see the focus put on farmers because it takes the heat off them. Chuck the farmers under the bus and maybe they get another few months of peace.
    
    People living in South Africa clutch onto straws of hope. They hope that throwing out Zuma and replacing him with Ramaphosa will fix everything, just like they all waved their rainbow nation flags in 1994. Zuma has said he will root out corruption. I personally think these are just warm fuzzy soundbites to appease the easily-appeased western journalists (who, let’s face it, are willfully ignorant and still lap up the “rainbow nation” hype).
    
    The last fact to consider is that whites are not homogeneous. They are tribal too. There is no love lost between Afrikaners and English speakers (or between Cape Afikaners and Transvaal Afrikaners for that matter). If the woman being interviewed was English speaking then she could still sleep easy if the Afrikaner farmers are getting shafted.
    
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    March 3, 2018 4:57pm
- GoVege
  
  We are very interested, cmm, thank you. 🙂
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:36pm
igm

Well here we go again . . . 2018 is going to be the year for Blues, Warriors, and Auckland!
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- Nermal
  
  The Blues and the Warriors should merge so they can swap ways of turning victory into defeat
  
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  March 3, 2018 2:44pm
  - Gabby
    
    What could they possibly learn gerbil.
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:29pm
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AUSSIE & KIWI HOUSING … THE DAYS OF EXCESSIVELY RISKY HIGH MULTIPLE LENDING ARE OVER
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Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/weekend-reading-3-4-march-2018/#comment-3060651

… Essential viewing …

AUSTRALIA: ABC’s The Business does liar loans – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/abcs-business-irresponsible-mortgage-lending/

… Pavletich comment on thread … the Irish experience …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/abcs-business-irresponsible-mortgage-lending/#comment-3060351
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US mortgage rates up for 8th week; 30-year at 4.43 percent – NZ Herald

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12004777
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NAB (National Australia Bank) tightens loan-to-income limits – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/02/nab-tightens-loan-income-limits/
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… What are the lessons from the cruise ship Costa Concordia experience ? …

Costa Concordia captain’s sentence upheld by Italy court – BBC News

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39903968
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March 3, 2018 8:31am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  What the fuck does the Costa Concordia have to do with property prices in Aus./NZ? Or are you just trying to draw attention to your stupidity?
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:40am
  - thedavincimode
    
    I believe the Costa Concordia reference is an oblique reference to hugh’s business although whether he ought to be imprisoned for navigating it onto the commercial rocks is another matter. However, there is certainly a case for his imprisonment for posting the voluminous shit that he dumps here.
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:50am
    - Gabby
      
      But what about the shoes damingygoat? Maybe he was distracted by inappropriate footwear.
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:31pm
  - labrator
    
    He got distracted by a hot blonde while captaining his copy and paste machine and ran that text straight into the island of Kiwiblog?
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:38am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Quiz question …
    
    What is the difference between Captain Mainwaring and Goldie Hawn ?
    
    The first is clearly dumb … while the latter is just acting it …
    
    Dean Martin and Goldie Hawn – Dumb Is Beautiful – But Kaleidoscope Means… I Love You – YouTube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mez8LZzA-tw
    
    9 frivolous years in Opposition going forward !
    
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    March 3, 2018 6:09pm
    - Gabby
      
      Goldie Hawn doesn’t shit her pants and wear them the next day?
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:32pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … In contrast … check out the intelligent comments over at MacroBusiness Australia … access via …
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/weekend-reading-3-4-march-2018/#comment-3060651 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/weekend-reading-3-4-march-2018/#comment-3060652
        
        It is a pity the Kiwi Tories have gone from dumb pre – election to demented post – election.
        
        Hell … they were stupid enough pre – election.
        
        Wisely … voters rejected the gutlessness and stupidity … so that now National is appropriately a dying political orphan.
        
        I understand most didn’t see the political changes coming ( they cant say I didn’t constantly warn then … refer GONE GONE GOING section http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org ).
        
        The same ones of course will completely misjudge the looming significant market changes … as appropriately justice / fairness is restored to the poor and disadvantaged.
        
        I sure am looking forward to that !
        
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        March 4, 2018 2:46am
- Nostradamus
  
  Pavletich comment on thread
  
  Actually, so far, you’ve posted 3 comments on the MacroBusiness thread (2 replying to yourself). It looks like they ignore you at MacroBusiness too!
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:42am
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    … AUCKLAND HOUSING CONSTRUCTION COMING TO LIFE … WITH THE TORY DARK AGES OVER …
    
    Encouraging start to year with building consents up strongly in Auckland compared to a year ago | interest.co.nz
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/92422/encouraging-start-year-building-consents-strongly-auckland-compared-year-ago
    
    Building consents were issued for 1916 new homes in January, up 9.3% compared to January last year and up 13% compared to January 2016, according to Statistics NZ. … read more via hyperlink above …
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    WHEN WILL NEW NATIONAL PARTY LEADER SIMON BRIDGES UNDERSTAND HOUSING ? …
    
    New National leader says there is a housing crisis in NZ | Radio New Zealand News
    
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/351421/new-national-leader-says-there-is-a-housing-crisis-in-nz
    
    New National Party leader Simon Bridges has admitted that there is a housing crisis in New Zealand “for those it affects”.
    
    Simon Bridges was named the new leader of the National Party yesterday, while Paula Bennett was reinstalled as deputy leader. …
    
    … Asked if he had any regrets over National’s nine years in power, he said he believed the previous government may not have shown it was doing enough on housing and the environment.
    
    Despite that government’s refusal to concede that there was a housing crisis in New Zealand, Mr Bridges admitted today that it was a crisis “for those it affects”. … read more via hyperlink …
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:51am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      … An essential read … in case you missed this brilliant article posted here at Kiwiblog yesterday …
      
      Living well on NZ Super (Govt pension) alone is possible … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/101797298/Living-well-on-NZ-Super-alone-is-possible?cid=app-iPad
      
      … extract …
      
      … The 2017 Material Wellingbeing of New Zealand Households report by Bryan Perry makes it clear that arriving at retirement with a mortgage-free home is the basis of a dignified retirement.
      
      “We live in Paparañgi, Wellington, in an 18 year-old free hold-house,” Thompson says.
      
      Having a home in a retirement-friendly area is also an important part of prepping for the silver years. …
      
      … Policy failure by successive governments, and the city councils of Wellington and Auckland, also means the prices young people have to pay for homes has risen astronomically.
      
      Most older New Zealanders suffering high material hardship are renters at the mercy of landlords, and do not have home equity to free to buy a place in a retirement village.
      
      Perry notes the threat high house prices pose. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:56am
      - labrator
        
        …Amazing things and other inanities, Pavelitich found guilty!
        
        http://nzherald.co.nz/news.cfm?wow=Hugh_Pavelitich_found_guilty
        
        … Stephieboy and Paveltich found operating from same room, share keyboard, Hugh has worn out three keys….
        http://stuff.co.nz/news/boring/copy_paste/paveletich_lives_with_stephieboy
        
        … extract …
        
        “I’m not really sure how so much stuff ends up when I start typing but I’ve only ever learnt how to press ctrl+c and ctrl+v. One day I’ll learn how to interact online but in the meantime I just enjoy my posts turning red. Red is pretty” – Hugh Paveltich commenting on his commenting yesterday
        
        http://newshub.co.nz/time-wasters/hugh_paveletich/copy_paste_lack_of_self_awareness_king/
        
        Read more on hyperlinks above.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:42am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Hey look!
        I’m Hugh!
        
        … An essential read … in case you missed this brilliant article posted here at Kiwiblog yesterday …
        
        Living well on NZ Super (Govt pension) alone is possible … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/101797298/Living-well-on-NZ-Super-alone-is-possible?cid=app-iPad
        
        … An essential read … in case you missed this brilliant article posted here at Kiwiblog yesterday …
        
        Living well on NZ Super (Govt pension) alone is possible … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/101797298/Living-well-on-NZ-Super-alone-is-possible?cid=app-iPad
        … An essential read … in case you missed this brilliant article posted here at Kiwiblog yesterday …
        
        Living well on NZ Super (Govt pension) alone is possible … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/101797298/Living-well-on-NZ-Super-alone-is-possible?cid=app-iPad
        … An essential read … in case you missed this brilliant article posted here at Kiwiblog yesterday …
        
        Living well on NZ Super (Govt pension) alone is possible … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/101797298/Living-well-on-NZ-Super-alone-is-possible?cid=app-iPad
        … An essential read … in case you missed this brilliant article posted here at Kiwiblog yesterday …
        
        Living well on NZ Super (Govt pension) alone is possible … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/101797298/Living-well-on-NZ-Super-alone-is-possible?cid=app-iPad
        … An essential read … in case you missed this brilliant article posted here at Kiwiblog yesterday …
        
        Living well on NZ Super (Govt pension) alone is possible … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/101797298/Living-well-on-NZ-Super-alone-is-possible?cid=app-iPad
        … An essential read … in case you missed this brilliant article posted here at Kiwiblog yesterday …
        
        Living well on NZ Super (Govt pension) alone is possible … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/101797298/Living-well-on-NZ-Super-alone-is-possible?cid=app-iPad
        … An essential read … in case you missed this brilliant article posted here at Kiwiblog yesterday …
        
        Living well on NZ Super (Govt pension) alone is possible … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/101797298/Living-well-on-NZ-Super-alone-is-possible?cid=app-iPad
        … An essential read … in case you missed this brilliant article posted here at Kiwiblog yesterday …
        
        Living well on NZ Super (Govt pension) alone is possible … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/101797298/Living-well-on-NZ-Super-alone-is-possible?cid=app-iPad
        
        Lovely blue-black pattern, don’t you think?
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:05am
    - Harkman
      
      Liar Twatford announced 80 homes that National planned, Labour is so far out of its depth it’s a joke.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:54am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        MBIE wrong about KiwiBuild costs – Twyford | Newshub
        
        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/03/mbie-wrong-about-kiwibuild-costs-twyford.html
        
        Housing Minister Phil Twyford has dismissed figures from his own officials suggesting KiwiBuild homes will be much less affordable than the Government has claimed. … VIEW & READ more via hyperlink above …
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:06am
      - waikatogirl
        
        The 80/86 odd homes announced are a result of National bulldozing 16 state houses on 1/4 acre sections so they could replace them with more appropriately sized dwellings is an incredible increase of housing over the same amount of land.
        
        How Twatford can claim these state houses as Liarbor’s efforts after protesting Nationals state house replacement policy is mind-blowing hypocrisy! ?
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:14am
      - GazzaW
        
        Twatford is now getting increasingly desperate on both the housing and the transport fronts. The chickens are really coming home to roost on housing and when Michael Woodhouse can expose Twatford’s utter incompetence with the transport portfolio you know that he is not in a comfortable place.
        
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        March 3, 2018 12:18pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Does Simon Bridges talk to Michael Woodhouse at all ? …
        
        Meet NZ’s newest housing idiot – MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/11/meet-nzs-newest-housing-idiot/
        
        By Leith van Onselen
        
        Apparently Auckland’s housing market is no longer in “crisis”, according to the National opposition’s housing spokesman, Michael Woodhouse: … read more via hyperlink above…
        
        It’s all just so embarrassing for a Tory like me.
        
        Check out the demise of National in the GONE GONE GOING section of my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org … and of course, draw your own conclusions.
        
        It seems likely National will be in for a big shock with the next Colmar Brunton poll.
        
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        March 3, 2018 12:50pm
  - Swifty
    
    Heh
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:27am
  - Gabby
    
    Good ignoring skilz nosydumbarse.
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:33pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      nosydumbarse
      
      Apparently Gobby the Troll has a micro-penis that’s shorter than his nose.
      
      LOL 🙂
      
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      March 4, 2018 3:49am
Dave Mann

As the day begins here, in South Africa tens (hundreds?) of thousands of families will be going to bed with the reality that they will soon be homeless and without an income. They might even be stripped of their personal belongings….. who knows what will happen in the next few months?

How can we help them? Ideas, anyone?
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March 3, 2018 8:32am
- cmm
  
  You don’t start looking for a parachute after you’ve jumped out of the plane. Now all we can really hope for is hitting a bush and only breaking a few limbs.
  
  The time to help was 5 years ago, or even better, 30 years ago.
  
  While I don’t condone apartheid, it did provide structure. The West were all too quick to rip into apartheid without providing an alternative structure.
  
  Before you destroy things, make sure there’s a solid plan for succession.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:49am
  - Piniwi
    
    Right cmm with a little help from Minto and his crew.
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:46pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  How can we help them? Ideas, anyone?
  
  South Africa needs a return to Apartheid. It was a system that despite sanctions from Western moralisers detached from reality, delivered a strong economy, little corruption, law and order and a reliable infrastructure. It was such a great place to live for Blacks, that millions upon millions flocked there from the rest of Africa in search of a better life.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:06am
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    EAD TWO , not feasible to turn the clock back to your rosy cosy view of Apartheid that was enforced in favour of the white minority .
    
    Presumably the same for Segregation in the Southern USA and Nuremberg laws that discriminated against Jews .?
    
    Correct ?
    
    What Next ?
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:11am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      The emotions of Apartheid are far different to the facts.
      
      For all but a few at the top of the tribal tree, life under White rule is/was far better for the vast majority.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:43am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Yup, blacks our age ( 50 +) sometimes make the same statment. They couldn’t vote, but they had food, clothing housing and work. Now they can vote but they have nothing else. ( This is not a defence of Apartheid – it was an odious, ignorant, stupid system)
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:53am
      - stephieboy
        
        EAD TWO , and much, much superior for the White Minority !
        
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        March 3, 2018 2:50pm
  - howitis
    
    If SA decides to return to apartheid and need a refresher on how it works they can look to NZ for updates.
    Apartheid is in NZ with preference given to Maori :-
    
    -Billions of dollars in cash handouts to Maori with multiple ‘equalisation/parity’ top up handouts ($370m top up a few weeks ago to Tainui)
    -Taxpayer funded separatist TV stations
    -7 seats set aside for Maori-only selected MPs despite there already being a higher percent of Maori in Parliament than the general population
    -Maori get their own Government Department and Minister of the Crown
    -One can make racist comments to your heart’s content if Maori (Marvelly, Harawira, Jackson etc) but if not Maori woe betide…..
    -Own rugby selection system
    -Preferential entry to tertiary education
    -Caught without drivers licence and you are land-deprived Maori, it’s OK bro’, just don’t be white
    -Can get on the New Years Honours list for services to …’anything but white people’
    – the ‘right’ of Maori to block simple development because there was a pile of sea shells there 400 years ago; fixed with koha, eh.
    -payouts to Maori for imaginary ghosts that just happen to be where a roadway is planned
    -payment to Maori to shoo away imaginary ghosts where death has occurred
    -non democratic appointment of unelected maori ‘high chiefs’ on local authority councils and with voting rights
    
    …Just wait until this Labour Govt get rolling
    
    How many more examples does one need of apartheid in NZ
    There is separatism and racially-oriented privilege.
    
    Until we have Kiwi not Iwi there is apartheid in NZ.
    I am more concerned about that than what is happening in other countries.
    
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    March 3, 2018 12:35pm
  - cmm
    
    No EAD, South Africa does not need, and never needed, apartheid.
    
    Perhaps this might be a good theme for a post.
    
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    March 3, 2018 4:11pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  White South Africans are not worried about work, homelessness and income. They are worried about being exterminated. And nobody in the rest of the world gives a fuck.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:56am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Where else have I not see the world give a fcuk – ohh yeah the Bolsheviks industrial scale slaughter:
    
    You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the “Russian Revolution.” It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators
    
    South Africa is where it is now thanks to the tireless work of the likes of Joe Slovo, Denis Goldberg, Arhtur Goldriech, James Kantor, Harold Wolpe, Ruth First, Albie Sachs, Lionel and Hilda Bernstein, amongst many others:
    
    http://balder.org/judea/South-Africa-Terrorism-ANC-Revolution-Jewish-Involvement.php
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:26am
    - Jack5
      
      EAD, you keep repeating this neo-Nazi bullshit that Jews dominated the Bolshevik leadership. They call it the broken-record technique, and old Goebbels was an an enthusiast for it.
      
      Jews may have been disproportionately represented among the leading Bolsheviks, compared with their proportion of the Russian population (this is disputed), but they did NOT dominate the Bolshevik leadership. While Trotsky was a Jew, Lenin was not, for example.
      
      The neo-Nazi claims that the Bolshevik leaders were overwhelmingly Jewish relates to statements attributed to the Soviet dissident Solzhenitsyn when he was in his 80s.
      
      Here’s a Wikipedia rebuttal of Solzhenitsyn’s claims:
      
      Solzhenitsyn falsely claims Jews were overrepresented in the early Bolshevik leadership and the security apparatus, without citing his sources. For instance, he claims that “from 22 ministers in the first Soviet government three were Russian, one Georgian, one Armenian and 17 Jews”. This assertion has been discredited as inaccurate, as the number of Commissars in the first Soviet government on 7 November 1917 was 15, not 22, of whom 10 were ethnic Russians (Milyutin, Yelizarov, Skvortsov, Lomov, Rykov, Lenin, Shlyapnikov, Antonov-Ovseenko, Krylenko and Avilov), two Ukrainians (Lunacharsky and Dybenko), one Pole (Teodorovich), and only one Jew (Trotsky).
      
      And here’s an extract of a Der Spiegel interview with Solzhenitsyn in August 2007:
      
      SPIEGEL: Your recent two-volume work 200 Years Together was an attempt to overcome a taboo against discussing the common history of Russians and Jews. These two volumes have provoked mainly perplexity in the West. You say the Jews are the leading force of global capital and they are among the foremost destroyers of the bourgeoisie. Are we to conclude from your rich array of sources that the Jews carry more responsibility than others for the failed Soviet experiment?
      
      Solzhenitsyn: I avoid exactly that which your question implies: I do not call for any sort of scorekeeping or comparisons between the moral responsibility of one people or another; moreover, I completely exclude the notion of responsibility of one nation towards another. All I am calling for is self-reflection.
      You can get the answer to your question from the book itself: “Every people must answer morally for all of its past — including that past which is shameful. Answer by what means? By attempting to comprehend: How could such a thing have been allowed? Where in all this is our error? And could it happen again? It is in that spirit, specifically, that it would behoove the Jewish people to answer, both for the revolutionary cutthroats and the ranks willing to serve them. Not to answer before other peoples, but to oneself, to one’s consciousness, and before God. Just as we Russians must answer — for the pogroms, for those merciless arsonist peasants, for those crazed revolutionary soldiers, for those savage sailors.
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:11pm
- Piniwi
  
  Well DM here’s a quarter call someone who cares. They have their problems and we have ours that are about to get a whole lot bigger.
  
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  March 3, 2018 3:44pm
DigNap15

They say that Helen Clark has 7 houses, maybe Jacina has plans to catch her up?
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March 3, 2018 8:32am
- stephieboy
  
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  DipNap15 , the politics of envy !
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:53am
  - DigNap15
    
    No good on them.
    Its just that most people, socialists included, want to be a capitalist and rich.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:17am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    No SB, the practise of hypocracy.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:47am
  - Harkman
    
    “the politics of envy !”
    
    No its the politics of living of the state for your entire wealth. Like Zuma and Mugabe.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:57am
- KiWombat
  
  Were they all affordable, or is she able to just put them on tick ?
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:00am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    If someone buys them they must be affordable.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:49am
- stigie
  
  One of those 7 houses are for the Professor to carry on with his adventurous activities so im lead to believe..?
  
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  March 3, 2018 12:56pm
Humble Capitalist

Might even fill in the Senseless online later on. Has anyone else done it yet?
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March 3, 2018 8:33am
- Nukuleka
  
  I thought the census was all about factual information yet surely the questions about damp housing are to some degree subjective.
  
  At least there are only 2 genders in NZ in 2018. Praise be for that!
  
  I run airbnb and certainly won’t be bothering to get guests to fill in online census info when I have already completed mine early. It’s their business not mine. Plenty of room for loopholes in this system.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:49am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    “At least there are only 2 genders in NZ in 2018.”
    
    People confuse “gender” with “gender expression.” One is genetically determined for life, and there are normally two of them.
    
    The other, well, I think there were 57 flavors of gender expression in New York (better than the Campbells Soups that influenced Warhol) the last time I looked.
    
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    March 3, 2018 2:00pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Yup,
  Easy to do. couldn’t understand the point of the mould questions. So I said yes heaps. That will skew the data!
  
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  March 4, 2018 6:47am
Humble Capitalist

I was in Masterton during the week. New World had real checkout people operating the express lane. It was really nice to see the human touch as we’ve become so used to buying from computers. The human touch days are numbered unfortunately and will only be accelerated by the NZ Trade Unions Party (whose policies have electoral support of a touch more than 1 in 3)
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March 3, 2018 8:38am
- DigNap15
  
  And Labours policy of higher wages to fix poverdy.
  Wages go up and so do employers costs and prices.
  And we get less exports and more automation.
  And more outsourcing eg recent insurance company moves.Tourists already find our beer and coffee very expensive.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:42am
  - KKKKatee
    
    Even John Key understood that but this bloody ignorant PM and her equally ignorant team haven’t got a clue as to how the wheels of business go around. Get ready for Employers not replacing Staff, putting costs of goods and services up etc. etc. And at the end of the day, nobody is better off. Bit like a dog chasing its tail.
    We’re getting notifications from our suppliers already about price increases and to maintain profit we increase prices accordingly. After all, I don’t see that any business is morally obliged to turn into a social welfare agency and give it all away just because. So far, this Government doesn’t understand how things work on the ground.
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:02am
    - tusker
      
      KKKKatee. Our businesses will profit from Twitford chucking more money at a construction resource pipeline that is already full. Margins are set to improve further as the Jones regional pork barrel rolls out and shortly Davis does the U turn on the new prison that everyone except him knew was inevitable. Make as much as you can now while the Col gravy train is rolling and get as much tucked away out of reach of thieving socialist hands as you can.
      
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      March 3, 2018 11:35am
- Scott
  
  Come to Masterton Humble Capitalist. We have real people everywhere ?
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:19am
- GazzaW
  
  Our local Countdown now has six live checkout operators and twenty ‘do it yourself’ units overlooked by one supervisor. Makes perfect economic sense for the owner and nineteen less union members per shift.
  
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  March 3, 2018 12:26pm
cmm

Saw stuff running a puff piece on Our Boyfriend, that he’s putting in as much fishing and diving as he can before June. He seems to think he has three months of bloke time to himself.

Poor bugger’s in for a shock when Cindy starts to get bigger and needs to rest a bit more. She will ge resentful that she needs a lie down while he’s romping around on tropical islands. He’ll need to be doing a bit more than just the laundry in the last trimester.

Gayboy: You might know women, you might know a hell of a lot of women 😉 but you are an expert in models in slinky cocktail dresses, not preggy women.
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March 3, 2018 8:38am
- KiWombat
  
  cmm you’ve got to give CLicker points for hanging around.
  
  I’m not convinced the baby is his – apparently they had been “trying” for some time without success. Then she went into several late night “negotiations” behind closed doors, and magically became pregnant. CLicker was in Auckland, Cindy was in Wellywood.
  
  Stand to be corrected, but it looks a bit too fishy for me !
  
  Had he been knocking on the back wrong door, then eventually realised there was a front door as well? Doubt it !
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:32am
  - KKKKatee
    
    He won’t be going anywhere soon now that there’s a $2M plus house to move into now will he? As his (and Jacinda’s) mate Tom Sainsbury the Snapchat Comedian says “Fuck, all my Christmases have come at once – hee! hee!”
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:06am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Really don’t think that just making that sort of stuff up is necessary thanks.
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:08am
  - cmm
    
    Leave the underarm bowling to the Aussies.
    
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    March 3, 2018 7:30pm
Happychappy

I see Twyford and the Coalition are talking up the state house they have given the ok for to be built in the provinces and after Four Months in government and with a housing crisis in Auckland it seems there is no urgency to start building their. One hundred thousand houses over ten years and none built by this Government with only the houses commissioned by National about to be unveiled. Even our media have not held this Goverment to account after pumping homeless and lack of housing for over two years so we really have to ask who is receiving back handers and what have they been promised by this loony coalition.
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March 3, 2018 8:48am
- KiWombat
  
  The first of Labia’s homes will be in Westport – 6 homes in 3 duplexes.
  
  I understand they are now looking at land in Meremere to construct for the Auckland market !
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:04am
  - GazzaW
    
    Meremere on a foggy winter morning and the Waikato in flood. Affordable but not desirable Phil and where will the punters work?
    
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    March 3, 2018 12:34pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Meremere Village is up on the hill above the old power station so safe from flooding. Not sure how much land is up there. Won’t save the residents from the river fog though.
      
      Fairly close to Auckland for the slog into and out from work.
      
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      March 3, 2018 1:44pm
    - Komata
      
      Meremere??? Surely you jest?? It’s Tainui ‘s now and bro-central; think Cannon’s Creek at its worst. No non-bro need apply, and if you’re white don’t even cosider it! Tainui ooking after their own in all its radiant beauty!. Having said that, and based on past experiences, no doubt koha in quantity will ease the pain of givig-up supposedly ‘ancestral’ land of great value…
      
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      March 3, 2018 6:07pm
    - Gabby
      
      Who says they’re working guzzla? You want them cluttering up the doorway of your orifice or not?
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:46pm
- Piniwi
  
  But Happychappy he will and fudge the line between social housing an his pet project “affordable” housing. Interesting to see a Christchurch native pa has completed 7 social houses that took 7 years to complete. Only 7 years?
  
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  March 3, 2018 4:01pm
Paulus

Am going to watch Dame Annette as present Acting Chair of EQC who has been told to sort out all the outstanding Claims from the EQs. About 2,500 it appears.
EQC is taxpayers money so she can dish out as much as she wants if that is where the claims are irrespective of anything.
But many are Insurance Company problems, one of which is that most claims have already been settled with the policy holders at the time of the EQs.
But obviously a number of those sold out after settlement to new owners.
These are not party to the recompense from the Insurance Company who settled with the previous owners but now want additional settlement. But they are not the policy holders who were insured at the time of the settlement of loss so Insurance Companies cannot settle anything further with the new owners.
Will watch her Dameship with interest and look forward to being told how she is doing regularly as there appears to be a three months time limit on this.
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March 3, 2018 9:04am
- tusker
  
  Paulus. 2600 are the claims EQC currently knows it has either unsettled or in dispute. There are many thousands more wrongly assessed claims or botched repairs that haven’t yet come to light.
  
  Woods has opened the door to testing in court by way of declaratory judgment, how much EQC should have paid for land damage. An issue that faded away because individuals couldn’t afford to challenge EQC’s position. But now Woods says the government may fund such group action, exposing EQC (taxpayers) to a potentially large liability.
  
  And on a related note, I think reinsurers will react badly if the Col CHCH peoples committees are empowered to make decisions outside established NZ contract law.
  
  Woods is a well meaning blusterer but commercially naive.
  
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  March 3, 2018 11:53am
- GazzaW
  
  So Dame Annette now has three sinecures that I’m aware of – Chair of the EQC, Chair of Watercare (courtesy Phil Goff) and High Commissioner to Australia. They should bring in a few bob on top of her taxpayer-funded goldplated Government super that she had to cart away in a wheelbarrow. And I suppose she will want her regular super as well. My recollection is that her only contribution to the people of NZ was to fuck up the health system and get involved in some sort of rort with the Hawkes Bay DHB.
  
  C’est la vie.
  
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  March 3, 2018 12:40pm
  - Gabby
    
    Sir Ponyboy’s doin okay too guzzla.
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:44pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I stand to be corrected, but I think it was Clusterf* Cunliffe that meddled with the HBDHB and appointed Annette’s hubby to run the shop and do a little meddling of his own with the female staff.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:45pm
peterwn

I heard that a Council was owed large sums in unpaid rates on properties where there were no mortgages. Collection is easy where there is a mortgage as councils tap the mortgagee on the shoulder and the mortgagee pays adding this to the mortgage.
But mortgage free properties were the problem and the Council was not bothering to have the High Court sell the properties (as is happening to Penny Bright in Auckland).
However the law allows councils (as I read the Act) to impose a 10% penalty for rates paid late and another 10% six months later (including the original penalty) and so on. Now Councils can borrow money at 5% or less per year so it would be more profitable for the Council not to take action. This seems to be the attitude of the Council in question. It would become untenable if the arrears become so great as to affect its borrowing capacity, although lenders are pretty safe since the borrowing is secured by the ability to levy rates. Anyway the Council could clean up rates arrears in a year if it chose to.
So perhaps Auckland Council should have just sat on its hands and held out until Penny Bright’s property is finally sold. The buyer’s lawyer would then settle all rates arrears from the purchase price and Penny would have been aghast at how much it cost her in penalties.
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March 3, 2018 9:06am
Ross12

Tracey Watkins column gushing all over the PM & co. Quite a few in Aussie saw it differently as I noted last night about Peta Credlin’s show on Sky.
It seems by the comments on this column there many in NZ who see things differently. I’m surprised Stuff have not closed comments.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/101937889/jacinda-arderns-aussie-charm-offensive-a-sign-of-the-changing-times
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March 3, 2018 9:08am
- AgentBallSack
  
  She’s an international embarrassment. But at least we haven’t reached Canada levels of cringe yet.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:33am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Give her time!
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:43am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Luckily for the Aussies, the PM and the BF and the entourage didn’t climb out of Airforce Ardern #1 dressed in Aborigine costumes as a show of solidarity with the Aussie mates. Now, that would have been cringeworthy.
      
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      March 3, 2018 11:09am
      - howitis
        
        However Gaylord was dressed as Leisure Suit Larry, in a dark-hued Safari suit, sans tie.
        
        He may have borrowed his dads underused Safari suit from Gisborne as Clarke now has mortgage payments to meet in the new house as well as nanny/child expenses for which he is responsible.
        
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        March 3, 2018 1:17pm
  - Nermal
    
    But I’ve noticed our MSM have stopped comparing their princess to Trudeau
    
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    March 3, 2018 2:50pm
  - Gabby
    
    Wait til she starts wandering around the hotel in her bathrobe Aged Ball Bag.
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:46pm
- peterwn
  
  That is quite OK. The gloss will disappear sooner or later. She will find out in the next year or so what the *real* duties and responsibilities of a CEO are and will be in for a very rude shock. There is only so much H2 can do to shield her from harsh realities. In particular Ministers running amok will do real damage to Labour – Keep it up Chris, Clare and the others. Grant will be ripping his hair out too as he tries to avoid a complete blow-out.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:20am
  - waikatogirl
    
    In Cindy’s reply to Malcolm Turnbull’s welcome speech she stated she “has been PM for four long months,” then added “four incredible months”. If Cindy has found the last 4 months long, just wait till National really get stuck into questioning the CoL, it’s going to feel much longer Cindy.
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:13am
    - Ross12
      
      One month of that was holiday time.
      
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      March 3, 2018 11:33am
    - Paulus
      
      But generally the public do not watch the humiliation that often now takes place in Parliament.
      And the media remain schtum so that the Col remain wonderful.
      
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      March 3, 2018 1:47pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Yes Waikatogirl but the little poofter struggles with too much stress but eating so much more comfort food so he may become a lot fatter as his hairline is reduced from pulling.
      
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      March 3, 2018 4:09pm
      - Gabby
        
        Deep analysis there pniwini. Always good to see.
        
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        March 3, 2018 8:48pm
- Nukuleka
  
  Stuff have read your post and have now closed comments!!!!
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:48am
- RF
  
  A mate in the NSW Police has emailed me asking why our PMs boyfriend is hanging around her like a bad smell whilst she is over there attending Govt functions.
  
  The Aussies were surprised and have questioned why he is included in the offical lineups.
  
  This is apparently most unusual and crass.
  
  Talk about the Beverly Hillbillies hitting town.
  
  I have a new name for the boyfriend – Jethro Bodine.
  
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  March 3, 2018 2:31pm
  - cha
    
    Meet Elly May.
    
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    March 3, 2018 2:48pm
    - Gabby
      
      damingygoat will have something to say about Sir Ponyboy’s footwear, rest assured.
      
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      March 3, 2018 8:50pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Well, I guess the BF is a hard dog who doesn’t stay on the porch and needs tying up hence the trip to Oz. Thank god she’s not going to the Heads of Commonwealth meeting hosted by the Queen and they’re not going to the Royal Wedding. Jolly good. But it does mean that Peters will be going instead?
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:21pm
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The mad obsession with Jacinda continues whilst far , far more important issues beckon,

The Craziness of Donald Trump !

‘Trade wars are good,’ Trump says, defying global concern over tariffs”

“WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump struck a defiant tone on Friday, saying trade wars were good and easy to win, after his plan to put tariffs on imports of steel and aluminum triggered global criticism and a slide in stock markets…”

The European Union raised the possibility of taking countermeasures, France said the duties would be unacceptable and China urged Trump to show restraint. Canada, the biggest supplier of steel and aluminum to the United States, said it would retaliate if hit by U.S. tariffs.

U.S. stock indexes recouped some losses on Friday, but were on track to end the week in the red as investors fretted over a possible global trade war. World equity markets slid further and the U.S. dollar dropped to its lowest point in more than two years against the yen….”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade/trade-wars-are-good-trump-says-defying-global-concern-over-tariffs-idUSKCN1GE1PM
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- Scott
  
  I’ll be interested in how it goes stephieboy? It’s a real interesting action that goes across all current economic orthodoxy. But everyone always says, “Trump’s heading for a fall this time!” So far not happened.
  The argument for tariffs and protection of local businesses is worth considering. In NZ we used to manufacture things. We even used to make trains! It’s seriously worth considering and especially watching what really happens in America. Who knows? Perhaps it might work?
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:23am
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    USA always does well under isolationist policies. Until the market crashes. But that affects them whether part of the global economy or not, so it’s no matter to them. What concerns them is that their wealth and jobs (and means of production) stay in America. A fact stupidboy is too fucking thick to comprehend.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:30am
    - stephieboy
      
      Agent Balls Up , presumably you support the same kind of gun control measures that Trump is advocating that is predecessor pushed for ?
      
      Free Trade has resulted in an enormous number of jobs being created in the USA
      
      https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brookings-now/2014/10/08/new-trade-agreements-lead-to-more-and-better-jobs/
      
      and ,
      
      http://www.newsweek.com/free-trade-does-not-cost-american-jobs-331451
      
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      March 3, 2018 10:22am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Yes, that’s right you fucking stupid boy. A completely disassociated comment about guns and a link to a blogsite by a retarded butthurt leftist with an agenda that I will never go to.
        Well done you. Did that take you long? Fuck you are stupid, up your game you cretinous asswipe.
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:28am
  - DigNap15
    
    There are some things we should not try to make in NZ due to our small market and the low production runs.
    Railway wagons maybe.
    But I am all for the USA putting tarrifs on steel and aluminium.
    A great country needs those industries to be viable in case of war etc.
    Make America great again!
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:06am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hung out to dry twice, Tennessee city stumped by Trump’s washer tariffs
      
      CLARKSVILLE, Tenn. (Reuters) – When President Donald Trump imposed steep tariffs on imported washing machines last week it was a“Not Again” moment for officials in this north Tennessee city that has lost jobs to an international trade dispute before.
      
      The move threatens to stunt the launch of a new LG Electronics (066570.KS) washing machine factory under construction in Clarksville, just four years after the U.S.-China trade fight over solar panels scuttled a nearby $1.2 billion Hemlock Semiconductor polysilicon plant.
      
      “It’s like déjà vu for Clarksville, to say‘how can this be happening twice to us,’” the city’s mayor, Kim McMillan, told Reuters.
      
      She said that the city government was scrambling to help the South Korean manufacturer accelerate its production launch by ensuring that utilities and infrastructure are quickly put in place at the factory site and expediting approvals.
      
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-tariffs-jobs/hung-out-to-dry-twice-tennessee-city-stumped-by-trumps-washer-tariffs-idUSKBN1FI0G1
      
      Says it all .
      
      America is Great without their Presidents present meddling and Stupidity !
      
      He is in effect crating a gigantic “Mexican border wall” around the US to seal the country from economic reality
      
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      March 3, 2018 10:31am
      - Jack5
        
        Not like the humming industry of Stephiestan, eh?
        
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        March 3, 2018 2:45pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Ralph/Stephie is so fucking dumb he hasn’t worked out that this is only a short term problem for LG. (even though he’s posted this story several times)
        While the plant is ramping up production they will have to import Washers to stimulate and meet local demand. They want the Brand and product established. Those imports will be less profitable so that is an extra cost.However once the plant is built then it will take over the supply of the US market.
        So imports won’t then be needed. The problem disappears.
        Ironically the tariffs on competitors will increase the value of the plant making the washers locally.
        Oh, he also omits the local Mayor is a Hillary supporting Democrat.
        Ralph is KBs Dumbest Commentator
        
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        March 3, 2018 2:56pm
    - Piniwi
      
      True DigNap15 it is noteworthy that after earlier culling of uneconomic manufacturing industries we see manufacturing maintaining steady growth. In fact ever since Labour declared it a crisis that has been a frequent catalyst to growth. There is a lot of Kiwi ingenuity being utilised in the manufacturing industry growth as well as a lot of cleaver hard working people.
      Sadly forced wage increases are going to weight very heavy on this situation where we again see the regions suffer because of flawed collectives that are not fit for purpose.
      
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      March 3, 2018 4:21pm
  - Gabby
    
    Be fair snott, most of what we made was just a bit crappy.
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:51pm
- VicParking
  
  Before Trump came to power the MSM headlines were “American imposes…”, “Senators pass….”, “Congress approves….”. Now its all Trump this Trump that. It was though Obama never existed.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:28am
- Harkman
  
  “The mad obsession with Jacinda”
  
  Only with idiots, most of us think that she is an airhead and a disgrace who is miles out of her depth.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:40am
- simpleton1
  
  Stopping deaths comes from “trade wars”. 🙂
  
  The result of the craziness of Canada’s famed Trudeau family of sweetpeasement and negotiation with India.
  https://twitter.com/CandiceMalcolm/status/969380656894455809
  
  Increased tarriffs from 40% to 60%, to save suicidal farmers.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:41am
- GazzaW
  
  It’s you that has an obsession with Trump stephie.
  
  Your views on US politics and their effect on the world are quite irrelevant. As Hugh Pavletich is to housing so you are to international events. An immediate downtick is the only course of action. We don’t fucken’ care what you think.
  
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  March 3, 2018 12:51pm
AgentBallSack

I have a confession. Every time I have engaged a lawyers services, be it woman or man I have been screwed hard.
#MeToo
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March 3, 2018 9:27am
- VicParking
  
  My mind will wander now every time I sit in my Solicitors board room.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:30am
- Paulus
  
  Soon only women will be Lawyers.
  The Law Society are considering only accepting Women as members (present boss is of course a woman, like Medical Assn)or dividing it into two – Them an Us.
  Not sure that too many Large Law firms will take too many young women Interns any more either.
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:51pm
  - GoVege
    
    That would be even worse!
    A young woman lawyer relative of mine told me she nearly gave up her career in her first job out of lawschool.
    Not due to being proposition ed by male lawyers, but by being constantly bullied by an older woman lawyer.
    Some things ARE worse than sexual harassment. ….just depends which you are allowed to talk about.
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:02pm
    - alex Masterley
      
      My wife, who once was a legal secretary, tells the same sort of story.
      The women lawyers she worked for made life hell for she and her other women staff members, but the men were polite and courteous.
      I hear that from other colleagues as well.
      
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      March 4, 2018 6:52am
  - Gabby
    
    That is full of shit even for you Puller. You mean the law firms who will be full of women won’t take on female interns? You’re just doing random panic bullshit now puller.
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:54pm
mandk

This global warming is really something, isn’t it?

Britain has just experienced its coldest daytime temperatures on any spring day ever.

Sorry, I forgot, we don’t call it global warming any more.
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March 3, 2018 9:31am
- AgentBallSack
  
  Russia hacked the weather
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:37am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Climate change caused the Black Caps to lose on Wednesday – no matter what the negative result scientists have modelled a consensus that CO2 is to blame for any bad stuff.
  
  I cut my finger while peeling onions the other day and it was cold comfort to me to understand the insidious effect of climate change on vegetable peeling.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:42am
- fernglas
  
  The Arctic, meanwhile, is basking in temperatures 20C above average.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:06am
  - rangitoto
    
    No sign of that on windy.com
    
    https://www.windy.com/?temp,67.204,-26.016,3
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:45am
- GoVege
  
  If global warming affects the Gulf Stream, Britain could be in for more freezing winters.
  
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  March 3, 2018 3:04pm
DifferentPerspective

Sad, angry, unemployable lesbo looking for a bandwagon to jump on

Why can’t this nasty misandryous Aussie monster just eff off back to the lucky country?

Here is the infinitely unemployable (the cry throughout NZ’s broadcasting boardrooms is “yes, yes let’s employ Allison Mau – we really need a swathe of sexual discrimination complaints from someone with no talent”) desperately trying to find a way to remain relevant in some small way
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March 3, 2018 9:39am
- Harkman
  
  Mau is so pathetic, she might be on the Green Party list at the next election.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:43am
- Gabby
  
  You haven’t had dealing have you dippy specs?
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:56pm
Longknives

Ha Ha Shreik and Wail to the Proletariat about the ‘Evils of Capitalism’ then splash out and buy a $2 million dollar house!

As Johnny Rotten famously said- “Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated”?
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March 3, 2018 9:48am
- Harkman
  
  I bet there is some shenanigans in this purchase. But we’ll never find out.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:47am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Looks like she’s bought at the top of the market and it can only go South from there.
  Must have taken advice from Twitford.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:57am
  - KKKKatee
    
    No. Robbo is the big finance expert. He knows all about taking risks. Twatford knows diddly squat. The PM wouldn’t know how to balance her cheque book let alone draw up a balance sheet and understand how it works.
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:15am
    - Paulus
      
      Couldn’t do her cheque book when she was overpaid many thousands of dollars recently – like Peters.
      
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      March 3, 2018 1:53pm
mandk

Another evil Muslim training children to be martyrs.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/02/islamic-school-teacher-tried-raise-army-jihadist-children-judged/
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March 3, 2018 10:00am
- kowtow
  
  “We British……..”
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:23pm
Pongo

Tracey Watkins has got a really bad dose of Ardulation, the commentators not so much.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/101937889/jacinda-arderns-aussie-charm-offensive-a-sign-of-the-changing-times
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March 3, 2018 10:03am
- AgentBallSack
  
  I vomited a little in my mouth reading that.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:09am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    ABS , learn to swallow it and choke !
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:35am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Is that what you do with cock? Asking for a friend….
      
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      March 3, 2018 11:52am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Goat cock more like it!
        
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        March 3, 2018 1:56pm
- Manolo
  
  Watkins, a long time hack of solid Labour credentials.
  
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  March 3, 2018 11:30am
AgentBallSack

Bed Tax mooted for Wellington hotels (despite businesses already paying a levy)
Free Parking to be done away with in central city (despite businesses paying a levy)

127 million to be used for art
53 million set aside for cycleways
5 million for a discussion on cheaper housing
150 million on a movie museum
100 million on The Town Hall

Mayor “Just In” Lester says that ‘we have to look at ways of keeping rates low’, he wants to only give a 3.5% increase this year!

Wants vs Needs you fucking socialist parasite!
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March 3, 2018 10:07am
- thedavincimode
  
  movie museum
  
  ?? I thought Jackson got the pricker with them when they did the dirty (something about rent?) and told them to fuck off. Is that still going ahead?
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:16am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Obviously Lester didn’t get the message
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:30am
    - thedavincimode
      
      I’m sure he’ll find something else to spend the $150m on. Perhaps an art installation
      
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      March 3, 2018 10:57am
- oldpark
  
  Brilliant perception ABS. Think that bludger Lester is the real reason why Wellington has so many traffic and beggar problems. A real sicko bloodsucker.
  
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  March 3, 2018 11:19am
- GazzaW
  
  What about the airport then? Is Lester not extending the runway in anticipation of Wellington becoming the next Heathrow? Has commonsense and advice from the airlines that they are not remotely interested finally prevailed?
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:01pm
- Humble Capitalist
  
  So not far off half a billion needlessly flushed down the dunny. Imagine if we knew the true extent of waste in local and central government. Imagine if someone came in to clean it up and give us all a rates decrease
  
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  March 3, 2018 4:21pm
MCos

According to Foreign Affairs & Trade the US is our third largest trade partner.
Let’s hope that President Trump doesn’t decide to impose a tariff on beef imports.
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March 3, 2018 10:16am
- nasska
  
  It would be far more likely for our idiot Prime Minister to place an embargo on all trade with the USA because she doesn’t like them.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:28am
  - itstricky
    
    It would be far more likely for our idiot Prime Minister
    
    Hmmm…The one who was part of a successful renegotiation of TPP following the fall out of a major partner? Or the one who snubbed it, then decided that he wants to be part of it, but is otherwise too busy (presumably) engaging in a school yard war of words with the B grade celebrity who happened to do a satirical political sketch on him?
    
    I know which one my money’s on to do something rash.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:47am
    - labrator
      
      successful renegotiation of TPP
      
      Citation required. Signing on the dotted line is not a “renegotiation”.
      
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      March 3, 2018 1:33pm
  - Gabby
    
    How do you reckon that nutsack?
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:01pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Hiking the price of burgers would be as popular as getting rid of guns. 50 million lard-arses marching on the White House.
  
  Edit: the pommies’ KFC crisis times a million!
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:32am
  - nasska
    
    ….” 50 million lard-arses marching on the White House”…..
    
    That could move the Earth off its axis! 🙂
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:41am
- Harkman
  
  Actually this maybe a possibility.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:57am
- Gabby
  
  Mcdonalds wouldn’t like that. Chump likes mcdonalds.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:00pm
AgentBallSack

If Kimbo can have his own internet law, then it’s only fair that Hugh gets a mention in the psychology annals.

Pavelitch’s Dog
You ring a bell and he shits all over the thread
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March 3, 2018 10:24am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Possibly comment of the year❗??
  
  https://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/my-two-cents-worth-pavlovs-dog-and-free-speech/
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:51am
- labrator
  
  I prefer ‘litch slapped…
  
  “Man, look at all those meaningless copy pastes and replies to self, it’ll take ages to down vote them all”
  “Yeah, that thread got ‘litch slapped hard”
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:35pm
Monique Watson

I’d say he’s staring down Xi and meat and dairy aren’t in his sights. Sux to be an Australian steel or aluminum exporter though. They’re (media) are just starting to run that angle now.
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March 3, 2018 10:35am
- MCos
  
  Canada is the top exporter of steel to the US. China isn’t in the top ten. (2016 figures)
  https://www.trade.gov/steel/countries/pdfs/2016/annual/imports-us.pdf
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:48am
- fernglas
  
  China only supplies about 2% of US steel imports, so he’s staring down the wrong guy
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:51am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes, but China is screwing the rest of the worlds steel
    producers forcing them to lower prices.
    
    Trump should have put the hard word on China and told them to reduce their capacity and maybe stop exporting….
    
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    March 3, 2018 6:21pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Trumps lining up to renegotiate NAFTA.
  He’s already fired a shot at Canada over wood. Trudeau didn’t take the hint so now it’s steel.
  He’s been chipping away at Mexico about car manufacturing.
  If he has a go at China I reckon he might start with Intellectual Property theft.
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:26pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    ACTIONS AGAINST IMPORTS INTO THE EU | Brussels, 11th August 2017
    
    The European Commission imposes provisional anti-dumping duties on steel products from China
    After an eight month investigation the Commission has decided to impose provisional anti-dumping duties on Chinese corrosion resistant steel.
    
    The Commission’s investigations confirmed that these Chinese products had been sold at artificially low prices. Therefore, imports of corrosion resistant steel from China will now be taxed with anti-dumping duties of up to 28.5%. This will reduce the pressure on European industry and help to ensure a level playing field for EU steel.
    
    This product is typically used in the construction industry as material for cladding, in the production of welded pipes and tubes and in the manufacturing of domestic appliances. The product is also known as hot-dipped galvanised steel”
    28.5%!
    
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    March 3, 2018 2:43pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , slavishly towing the Trump line swallowing everything hook , line and sinker ?
      
      His constituency in the mid west will suffer with higher costs , industries continuing to move off shore .
      
      I take it your hope is the protectionism Trump style will rule here .
      
      Lobby for Toyota , Hyundai etc to set up an assembly plant at Thames etc ?
      
      LOL !
      
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      March 3, 2018 2:57pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        You have no idea what you’re talking about.
        You are so effing dumb.
        Jobs are at a record high.
        What a moron
        
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        March 3, 2018 3:04pm
      - simpleton1
        
        So funny to make Toyota and Hyundai at Thames with the cheap subsidized steel and aluminium from China, and then use CER with Australia as it is a bigger market.
        
        Yep Aussies would be stupid to accept that.
        And in their own way deport any other troubling things.
        
        Not to worry about the car plants closed in Australia. as there market was not big enough, or automated enough.
        
        Certainly looks like we will have to wear the right clothes 🙂 when visiting major trading partners, and nor take them for granted.
        
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        March 3, 2018 6:55pm
    - Gabby
      
      We’ll take it if it’s cheap an shitty.
      
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      March 3, 2018 9:06pm
  - simpleton1
    
    China using NAFTA to gain entry to USA.
    
    stockpile of aluminum in the Mexican desert, his American rivals have claimed.
    The pile, worth $2 billion and measuring one million metric tons, represents six per cent of the world’s aluminum……
    
    ……Bringing in merchandise through Mexico would enable a Chinese manufacturer such as Zhongwang to avoid paying those tariffs. Chinese-billionaire-hid-2-billion-aluminum-stockpile-Mexican-desert-claim-American-rivals.html
    
    Its the steel and aluminium turned into some product, then sent on into the USA.
    
    As also Canada importing cheap Chinese steel and turning it into product, to NAFTA into the USA.
    
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    March 3, 2018 6:43pm
    - simpleton1
      
      This is the link
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3784270/Chinese-billionaire-hid-2-billion-aluminum-stockpile-Mexican-desert-claim-American-rivals.html
      
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      March 3, 2018 6:59pm
marleybob

Was thinking about Golly G and her outrage with Seymour for wearing the Got meat T shirt, Golly would probably have check herself into the Henry Bennett ward if he were wearing one with the Star of David on it.
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March 3, 2018 10:36am
- Inandout
  
  Golly must have terror alerts and sweat attacks when she walks (or cycles) past Tony’s.
  
  http://tonys.co.nz/
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:42am
  - itstricky
    
    Not that I agreed with her, but I think you’ve got a little confused about what she was in disagreement with.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:50am
    - marleybob
      
      Not at all confused, She was objecting to freedom of choice to wear a T shirt that has a print she doesn’t like.
      I was following this guy at the Base here in Hamilton, his shirt said Fck Jesus, I didn’t like it but it was his choice to wear it.
      
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      March 3, 2018 2:07pm
      - itstricky
        
        The reply wasn’t to you. It was to Inandout.
        
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        March 4, 2018 3:45pm
- itstricky
  
  Was thinking about Golly G and her outrage with Seymour for wearing the Got meat
  
  marleybob commenting on ‘Got meat’. Is that some sort of delicious irony?
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:52am
- Gabby
  
  Seemore do love the Coq mouldybob.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:09pm
cha

Coincidences need lots of planning…..and Manitowoc Co is down 6%.

New York billionaire Carl Icahn, a longtime ally of President Trump who briefly served in the administration, sold $31 million in stock in a company that depends on steel just weeks before the president announced steep tariffs on imported steel, a new report said Friday.

https://nypost.com/2018/03/02/icahn-dumped-31m-in-steel-linked-stock-ahead-of-tariff-announcement/
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March 3, 2018 10:39am
- thedavincimode
  
  They’re all at it cha – both sides of the house. It’s how they make their money and it’s disgraceful.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:45am
  - Inandout
    
    And Hollywood has its share, and often make movies about these people. The ‘disgrace’ lies in how much money they make peddling half truths.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:48am
    - itstricky
      
      I know – they call it ‘fiction’. Scandalous.
      
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      March 3, 2018 11:03am
- Inandout
  
  A smart businessman perhaps? The US has acres of them, and NZ also has some savvy businessmen.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:46am
  - itstricky
    
    Depends on how much you believe in coincidences. Long time ally? Worked in administration? Sold just in time? 3x coincidences are just a bit too much for me.
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:56am
    - Inandout
      
      You could trawl through many decisions made in NZ, both in central and local government, and make the same comparisons.
      
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      March 3, 2018 11:34am
- Gabby
  
  How could he have known? He must have esp or sutin.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:11pm
softail 1450

unbelievably lisa owen ripped david parker a new arsehole this morning ,he was back peddling like a circus clown,at one stage the cucked beta male had both his hands on his hips while sitting in a chair .
he spent the entire time looking at the camera rather than lisa owen who he appeared to be totally intimidated by.
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March 3, 2018 11:08am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes she is a bit of a terrier.
  What was the interview about?
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:58pm
  - softail 1450
    
    dignap, TPP and how labour havnt changed anything really except the usa arent there anymore LOL.
    
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    March 3, 2018 5:24pm
- Gabby
  
  cuck soccer softcock14yo
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:12pm
burt

What a complete coincidence that the PM is moving into NZ’s most sought after school zone.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/latest/101946100/jacinda-ardern-and-clarke-gayford-buy-new-home-for-growing-family
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March 3, 2018 11:11am
- rangitoto
  
  Some are more equal than others.
  
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  March 3, 2018 11:24am
- itstricky
  
  You lefties and the green eyed monster. Always jealous of what other people have.
  
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  March 3, 2018 11:44am
  - burt
    
    All schools are equal right….
    
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    March 3, 2018 11:51am
- stephieboy
  
  burt , Sandringham is zoned for Mt Albert Grammar like her previous address ,
  
  https://www.mags.school.nz/the-school/enrolment-scheme-zone/
  
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  March 3, 2018 12:09pm
  - burt
    
    I really don’t care where she lives, it’s entirely up to her and her conscience if she wants to lock and load her children into a highly desirable school while telling the rest of us all schools are equal.
    
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    March 3, 2018 12:28pm
    - stephieboy
      
      burt , just wants to live in the area she is familiar with
      
      The schools are of good quality and I would say on pa with AGS and EGGS.
      
      Should she bus them across taken to Tamaki College
      
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      March 3, 2018 3:01pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Hey, how was Church the other week?
        They worked out what a nasty bullying perv you are yet Ralph?
        
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        March 3, 2018 3:06pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    Her previous address is not MAGS zoned rather it is in the Western Springs College zone
    
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    March 4, 2018 6:57am
- fernglas
  
  Balmoral primary and Intermediate? Mt Albert Grammar and Auckland Girls? Far from the most sought after schools; try Auckland Grammar and EGGS instead
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:15pm
  - backster
    
    I imagine Miss Arderne will want Waru to go to a Kohanga Reo for his initial education.
    
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    March 3, 2018 1:32pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      You betcha!
      
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      March 3, 2018 3:09pm
    - Gravelroad
      
      I wonder if Simon Bridge’s children go/will go to a Kohanga Reo also?
      He made a big enough production about his Maori connection the other day.
      I don’t really care if he is Maori. I just want to know what he and his party now stand for- other than Maori issues and something to do with the “environment”.
      
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      March 3, 2018 4:17pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Gravelroad.
        No, Simon lives about 200 metres from an excellent school, in Matua.
        However, if he wanted his kids to learn Te Reo, there is a very good total immersion school about 4 kms. away. 🙂
        
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        March 3, 2018 5:13pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        The media was making much of the Maori aspect of Simon and Paula, not they themselves.
        
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        March 3, 2018 10:23pm
  - GazzaW
    
    Jacinda won’t be looking to Auckland Grammar or EGGS in thirteen years time. More like a flash New York school for the kids of the UN brass.
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:37pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Seth Rich’s parents reportedly saying he was source for DNC emails sent to Wikileaks, before he got murdered:
  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/1/more-cover-up-questions/
  
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  March 3, 2018 3:11pm
- Humble Capitalist
  
  I can’t help but feel a great virtue signal opportunity has been missed by Adern here with the house purchase. 2 or 3 houses could have been purchased with homeless or refugees living in 1 or 2 of them. Surprising for someone that keeps banging on about poverdy.
  
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  March 3, 2018 4:31pm
cha

Trigger!

According to the director of "Frozen," it's a possibility Elsa could be getting a female love interest in the sequel https://t.co/X2mK9pik5X pic.twitter.com/CSSx4iKRfn— billboard (@billboard) March 1, 2018
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March 3, 2018 11:19am
Manolo

Will Canada dump the imbecile Trudeau?
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/justin-trudeau-lose-election-held-tomorrow-india-trip-symptom-shift-mood-ipsos-poll/
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March 3, 2018 11:39am
- simpleton1
  
  Perhaps Trudeau’s cultural appropriation in clothes for whatever the occasion.
  
  India’s import tariff on chickpeas went up from 44 per cent to 60 per cent overnight.
  ….duties of 33 per cent on lentils and 50 per cent on peas in India,…
  Pulse exports to India are a massive industry, worth over $1.1 billion in 2016.
  …..multiple tariffs on pulse crops, including lentils, peas and chickpeas, in the past few months…
  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/india-chickpea-tariff-pulse-industry-1.4559947
  
  Those farmers probably did not vote for Trudeau any way.
  Though other crops may be planted, there will be some belt tightening that will spread into the small towns, then cities.
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:01pm
DifferentPerspective

$50m bill for vapid virtue-signalling – lolol

Delta Airlines got their wires expensively crossed when they jumped on board the #ViolateTheConstitution movement and disassociated themselves from the NRA.

They’re of course, perfectly free to join in with the SJW and blame law-abiding gun owners for shootings they never carried out.

But as is almost always the case with vapid virtue-signalling, there is a cost for businesses to dive in and support oppression. Georgia law-makers killed a bill that would’ve given Delta Airlines a $50 million fuel subsidy.

Before they boycotted the NRA it was a done deal, now it’s dead.

Well done Georgia!
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March 3, 2018 11:39am
- itstricky
  
  Doesn’t sound like Delta regret it:
  
  “Our decision was not made for economic gain and our values are not for sale” (CEO) Bastian wrote in the memo
  
  http://time.com/5182755/delta-airlines-nra-atlanta-georgia/
  
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  March 3, 2018 11:50am
  - gump
    
    The more interesting question is why would major corporations operate or relocate to Georgia when they will risk financial attacks from state legislators?
    
    It is a spectacular attack on the freedom of businesses to operate without state interference.
    
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    March 3, 2018 12:10pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Also, seeing as corporations are people, it’s an attack on Delta’s freedom of speech.
      
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      March 3, 2018 12:31pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Corporations don’t have freedom of speech you nong. At the cricket today Mikey?
        
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        March 3, 2018 1:05pm
      - gump
        
        @AgentBallSack
        
        You might like to write to the Supreme Court to tell them that corporations don’t have freedom of speech – because the Supreme Court ruled in 2010 that corporations are in fact protected by the first ammendment.
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
        
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        March 3, 2018 3:00pm
      - mikenmild
        
        ABS is still grappling with “trade wars are good”, today. He seems only capable of absorbing one talking point at a time.
        
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        March 3, 2018 3:13pm
      - cha
        
        The truth outs, ball bag’s a turkey.
        
        https://i.imgur.com/mpURDmC.jpg
        
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        March 3, 2018 3:20pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Hilarious mikey and cha. you 2 should bunk together. Then we know where the fucktards are. Dont worry you wont be burned alive, promise. Scouts honour dib dib
        
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        March 3, 2018 8:33pm
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Silly. Delta are perfectly free to express their opposition to the NRA. They’re not free from the consequences of their free speech. In this case, the consequence was the pork barrel was taken away from Delta – something the Georgia state legislature was perfectly free to do.
        
        It just smarts when leftist tactics cut both ways eh?
        
        Socialists just loathe it when their own tactics are used against them and their shield of sanctimony doesn’t protect them!
        
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        March 4, 2018 8:17am
    - itstricky
      
      Good points. It’s more akin to a classic government impingement on freedoms than the usual ‘x won’t print y about z’ we get around here
      
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      March 3, 2018 1:08pm
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Tui ad
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:38pm
tedbear

I see the Unions are taking over our Immigration Dept.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/101872189/unions-decline-fu-wah-migrant-tradie-application-citing-exploitation
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March 3, 2018 12:11pm
- kowtow
  
  So now we’re little better than the third world countries we decry for being reliant on modern Imperial Chinese colonialism .
  I see Winston wants us to be more dominant in the Pacific along with the Okkers , well that boat has sailed as Pacific rulers know the Celestials have much deeper pockets than we do and also have fewer strings attached ( except support us in the UN ) .
  
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  March 3, 2018 12:25pm
AgentBallSack

Between Pavelitch’s Dog and stupid boy this place is unreadable some days.
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March 3, 2018 1:04pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Ralph T/Stephieboys LOL = Loser Out Loud
  
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  March 3, 2018 1:30pm
- Gabby
  
  Not to mention there’s an old withered scrote who doesn’t know shit from clay wittering on about shit Aged Ballbag.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:20pm
Swifty

Kimbo – following on from yesterday:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5456263/Men-chanted-tribal-style-dance-killed-sheep-spared-jail.html

It seems that even some Muzzies don’t take this halal business seriously either…..
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March 3, 2018 1:14pm
- Jack5
  
  Yep, and it’s time for some light to be thrown on the halal slaughter in NZ meat works.
  
  The video posted by a Maori Muslim slaughterman of what was going on in a North Island meat works was quickly pulled down and the publicity was soon covered over.
  
  If the animal rights activists look at halal slaughter in NZ a lot of mainstream people will get behind them.
  
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  March 3, 2018 2:08pm
- GoVege
  
  Bunch of sadists.
  Notice the British guy who didn’t actually do the torture, just turned a blind eye to it, does time, but the poor ignorant savages only get a suspended sentence.
  
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  March 3, 2018 5:10pm
simpleton1

Yes Swifty, jail for the owner who was not there.

Pork and Bacon can cause major costs and hassles, for employers, but eating of it was the chef’s downfall. Simply not a good enough muslim. 🙂

suggestions by his bosses that he should wear gloves and use tongs left him ‘stressed and humiliated’. Muslims are banned from eating pork under Islamic law.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1237184/Muslim-police-chef-defeated-bacon-roll-tribunal-faces-75-000-legal-bill.html#ixzz58ZbFrxil

But they can smell the money in that halal business.
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March 3, 2018 1:28pm
- simpleton1
  
  Money? that is what should be followed,
  
  So to become registered you apply through FIANZ.
  http://fianzhalal.com/
  That can show many helpful ways, even to “go green” and so many different products that can be certified halal.
  
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  March 3, 2018 2:35pm
  - simpleton1
    
    It pervades through some many products.
    
    The company has also been granted with a Halal Licence from the New Zealand Islamic Development Trust.
    
    “Both certifications are recognition of the stringent processes we undertake for food safety, quality, hygiene and manufacturing. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11999826
    
    Only one certificate controls the “stringent processes”.
    The other is just a nod to Mohammad’s ideology, resulting in a nice ongoing contribution to islam, mosques and dawa.
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:00pm
    - stephieboy
      
      simpleton1 ,
      
      Get in touch with facts not Tabloid Daily Mail
      
      For New Zealand ,
      
      “Here’s what you need to know about the halal meat debate”
      
      It was compulsory for all animals to be stunned before commercial slaughter in New Zealand. Stunning ensured an immediate loss of consciousness to prevent animals feeling any pain during the slaughter process, the MIA said.
      
      “In New Zealand there is no exemption to the requirement for pre-slaughter stunning, unlike in some other countries. Halal slaughter requires that the animal dies from the ‘halal cut’ to the throat, ie that the pre-slaughter stun is not powerful enough to kill the animal.
      
      “In premises that undertake halal slaughter in New Zealand, reversible electrical stunning is used to ensure that animals are rendered unconscious instantaneously and remain unconscious at the time of slaughter, thus complying with both animal welfare and halal requirements.”
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/99623151/what-is-halal-meat
      
      BTW The same applies for preparing Kosher meat !
      
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      March 3, 2018 3:11pm
      - simpleton1
        
        Some of those prayers seem to be rather funny, in a serious way lol
        
        http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/kiwi-isis-supporters-graphic-slaughter-videos/
        
        lol prayers to allah, in NZ leaving debate if stunned correctly.
        
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        March 3, 2018 3:32pm
  - simpleton1
    
    It seems to be great that the government helps.
    Certainly do now want to risk anything happening to those nice certificates do we?
    
    “AsureQuality” is working jointly with the New Zealand Islamic Development Trust to offer Halal training courses to the meat industry.
    
    AsureQuality Limited (previously AgriQuality Limited) is a state-owned Enterprise fully owned by the Government of New Zealand.
    Helps to keep everything smooth.
    
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    March 3, 2018 3:19pm
  - wombatge
    
    KFC has got it all sorted, they don’t serve bacon in certain stores.
    This is a classic, guy asks for bacon and gets a dose of customer service, bacon will disappear like it has in many stores in the UK.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io_HLVYN37s
    
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    March 3, 2018 7:17pm
Jack5

So it’s not just a popular myth.

Zimbabwe men are complaining that the condoms the country imports from China are too small!

A Chinese supplier, a firm called “Beijing Daxiang and His Friends Technology Co.” has responded by saying it will produce a range of sizes to suit. It is one of about 300 condom makers in China who make in total ore than three billion condoms a year, which isn’t a helluva lot of a country of 1.379 billion.

Zimbabwe’s Health Minister, David Parirenyatwa, suggests the country should be making its own condoms.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2135243/chinese-made-condoms-too-small-zimbabwes-health-minister

AND, China defends claim its condoms are world’s thinnest:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/1915768/chinas-condom-worlds-thinnest-court-settles-bragging-rights-and
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March 3, 2018 2:40pm
- DigNap15
  
  So send the condoms to India or Japan.
  I hear they are not world’s biggest studs.
  
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  March 3, 2018 4:10pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Hey!
    I resent that! (Even if there is a certain lack of enthusiasm among the younger Japanese generation of men to plough those fertile fields…) Maybe they need more red meat in their diet?
    
    (Let’s quickly change the subject and talk about Japanese BBQ restaurants… droooolllll!)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLuEfOJc5P8
    
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    March 3, 2018 6:17pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  muh dik
  
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  March 3, 2018 5:52pm
Manolo

The fun starts tomorrow in Italy:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-02/italian-hot-mic-shows-berlusconi-s-allies-fear-five-star-surge

Silvio Berlusconi’s center-right allies were caught on camera confiding their worries that the populist Five Star Movement could sweep through Italy’s south in Sunday’s election.
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March 3, 2018 2:56pm
big bruv

The lack of crowd at the cake tin proves two things.

1. The cake tin is a shit venue for cricket
2. The Basin is the only place to play cricket in Wellington.
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March 3, 2018 4:12pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Or:
  3. It’s such a warm windless day that everyone is at the beach.
  
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  March 3, 2018 4:41pm
  - sooty
    
    4. Why would you bother?
    
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    March 3, 2018 5:12pm
    - fernglas
      
      5) Like every other sport,cricket is over-exposed and overrated
      
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      March 3, 2018 10:44pm
billr

Came across this today, it’s an overview of the polar vortex that’s plunging arctic weather conditions over Europe.

It’s very informative, c/w diagrams, etc.

http://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-polar-vortex-climate-change-and-beast-from-the-east
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March 3, 2018 4:39pm
sooty

God the auckland council are tits. They spend 207,000 on a lawyer to defend the defamation legal case against Penny Bright. She owes 89,000 on back rates. Her house is worth 1.04 miilion. Wont it be lovely for her to be lumbered with the defamation lawyer bill, the back rates legal bill, eviction costs. They all keep mounting up every day. She’s never going to have the money to pay that back and it all comes out of sale price.
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March 3, 2018 5:30pm
Swifty

Penny Bright’s outstanding rates bill now just shy of $90k – according to the Herald.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12005774

Also, check out the video in the same article and where she talks about “what a silly question”. Check out her body language, demeanour and how she engages with the interviewer.

Creepy…..
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March 3, 2018 5:51pm
Monique Watson

The Australian: “The move is aimed at limiting Chinese steel imports into the US but the president did not say if other countries would be excluded.:
It’s a durect slap in the face to China if not out right currency manipulation. Who is Penny Bright?
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March 3, 2018 6:59pm
- nasska
  
  Just enforcing safety standards would be enough to reduce imports of Chinese steel. Basically it’s rubbish.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/80635517/Chinese-steel-fails-strength-test
  
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  March 3, 2018 7:06pm
  - Gabby
    
    But it’s cheap nutsack, Fletchers cheap.
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:26pm
- nasska
  
  …..”Who is Penny Bright?”…..
  
  Blog blight! 🙂
  
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  March 3, 2018 7:07pm
- Swifty
  
  Delusional, far-left, permanently outraged, self-appointed social justice crusader – who dodges Auckland Council rates in her spare time.
  
  Thinks she’s special. Forever stands in local and general elections and usually polls less than the informals.
  
  Inevitably gets chucked out of organisations she gets involved with.
  
  Pisses people off wherever she goes.
  
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  March 3, 2018 7:14pm
  - Johnboy
    
    She has hugely impressive biceps for an old tart though Swifty! 🙂
    
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    March 3, 2018 7:30pm
    - nasska
      
      If you’d played your cards right you would be clasped by those mighty biceps by now JB. 🙂
      
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      March 3, 2018 7:34pm
      - Johnboy
        
        I offered her the use of my jacuzzi and all the 6mm ferro rods (with amperage up to 300) she could handle nasska!
        What more can a man offer? 🙂
        
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        March 3, 2018 7:40pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Might be an expensive coupling JB if she manages to include you in her debt recovery by Auckland City Council.
        
        Not worth having to sell your flock to support the rates dodger in the councils rates recovery lawsuit. ?
        
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        March 3, 2018 8:29pm
      - Swifty
        
        A most generous offer JB.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:24pm
      - Gabby
        
        You a bit jealous of johnsboy’s ‘6mm ferro rod’ there nutsack.
        
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        March 3, 2018 9:37pm
JasonJohns

Trump is hitting back against the failed model of corporate-communist capitalists, by bringing back trade protectionism. He’s slapping huge tariffs on goods from capitalist countries. Of course the far left ultra-globalising communist-capitalist govt of Trudeau can’t handle this
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43267520
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March 3, 2018 7:55pm
JasonJohns

The failed corporate-communist state of the EU is threatening to retaliate, now that Trump has recognised that free trade is a dangerous tool of globalisation, and a fortress economy is necessary for the US Let ’em try
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/mar/02/china-expresses-grave-concerns-us-steel-tariff-plans
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March 3, 2018 7:56pm
JasonJohns

Mark Ellis a noted Biblical scientist has explored the mounting evidence that Trump was directly chosen by Our Lord Jesus Christ to lead America
https://pjmedia.com/faith/president-trump-chosen-god/
Looks pretty overwhelming…
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March 3, 2018 7:58pm
JasonJohns

‘When I told my friend that I had reservations about her Trump-as-chosen-by-God assertion, she sent me a video in which evangelical prophesier Pastor Kim Clement had prophesied Trump’s rise to the presidency long before Mr. Trump came down the escalator and announced his candidacy. Watching the 2007 clip, it seemed a singular prediction; though Trump had spoken about seeking the presidency over the years, he didn’t float credible balloons about it until 2012. And from the moment he announced in 2015 and definitely after, the idea of a President Trump was perceived not only as the longest shot of long shots, but a laugh-out-loud joke.

But in a hair-raising 2007 sermon, invoking the words “Trump” and “Trumpet,” Clement spoke the words that a significant number of evangelicals now believe were a true prophesy.’

Kim Clement saw through time…like an Old Testament prophet.
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March 3, 2018 7:59pm
JasonJohns

If you doubt that Trump is doing Christ’s work when he turns away from the failed capitalist-communist model of free trade…just look at the evidence

Why Karl Marx Advocated Free Trade (Capitalism)

Peter Myers, Canberra, Australia, August 2, 2001; update January 7, 2003. My comments are shown {thus}. Write to me at contact.html.

You are at http://mailstar.net/classwar.html.

Karl Marx advocated Free Trade, i.e. Capitalism, because (a) whereas Protection builds up the nation-state, Free Trade breaks it down, as a prelude to the creation of a world-state by the Capitalists (b) Free Trade breaks down traditional culture, as a prelude to the creation of a world culture (c) Free Trade exacerbates class warfare, and through this the Capitalists will lose control of the world-state – they will be defeated by the impoverished classes, with the help of their backers in the higher classes.

Free Trade -> Misery -> Social Revolution.

(1) Karl Marx on Free Trade (2) Frederick Engels on Free Trade (3) Trotskyists for Free Trade
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March 3, 2018 8:01pm
- JasonJohns
  
  Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes while chimps/bonobos have 24 pairs of chromosomes. That contradicts evolutionary theory and can’t be reconciled. Therefore there can be no claim of “absolute evidence” and in fact we know for certain that there is no link.
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:05pm
  - Swifty
    
    It’s ridiculous really – look what these so-called scientists have to say about that:
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk
    
    I ask you – what would they know? They call that ‘evidence’? Pfffft. And they call themselves ‘experts’.
    
    What a joke.
    
    We know better – we have The Bible!
    
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    March 3, 2018 9:21pm
  - GoVege
    
    Nah Jason, 2 of the bonobo’s little chromosomes joined together to make an extra big chromosome in us humans.
    Think it’s called “translocation”.
    Chromosomes do it all the time when they get sticky.
    There are an infinite number of chromosome rearrangements in humans.
    Most cause miscarriages and the lucky ones become special people. 🙂
    
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    March 4, 2018 12:25am
Don the Kiwi

A stud mutton perhaps?
and I don’t mean you this time JB 😉
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March 3, 2018 8:02pm
JasonJohns

Let’s face it…Darwinism is out of control
https://pjmedia.com/faith/biologist-scientific-establishment-turned-darwinistic-church/
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March 3, 2018 8:07pm
JasonJohns

Trump is a post-capitalist. He sees that the free market has failed and is in reality a tool of communists and cultural marxists. Therefore he is rebilding the proud fortress that once protected the US economy.

Free trade = communism
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March 3, 2018 8:09pm
JasonJohns

take useless information unprovable theories out of the schools. Flu has been around for ages…
but it’s still the flu. Where is the evolution? You get that flu shot because samples of pig flu in China are chosen as a best guess as to which will reach other parts of the world. I’m not seeing how your religious dogma of evolution matters.
But you aren’t all that intelligent so it’s no wonder you cited an example with no relation to the topic.
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March 3, 2018 8:12pm
JasonJohns

Evolution has explained nothing. Where do you get the idea that it is a “theory”?? Theories require plausible chains of events that allow testing and repeatable OBSERVABLE ressults . In order for any lifeform to “evolve” to a higher level of organism the species must somehow GAIN additional genetic information which will allow for more and more complex structures to form…AND THIS HAS NEVER EVER HAPPENED…AND …there is no know way it COULD happen. What passes for “theory” is the idea that simple little things somehow turn into big complex things over long periods of time. Pure hogwash. Go Trump!
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March 3, 2018 8:15pm
- Swifty
  
  Indeed.
  
  If men evoved from monkeys, how come we’ve still got monkeys?
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:56pm
  - fernglas
    
    So there would still be someone to comment on Kiwiblog?
    
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    March 3, 2018 10:02pm
waikatogirl

Hubby and I have just eaten a delicious Indian dinner at our local. The dinner came to $76.80. Hubby gave the girl $80.00 cash. She could not work out the change!

Well done the NZ education system! ?
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March 3, 2018 8:21pm
- gorse
  
  Is hubby and I going to the balloon night glow in a few weeks time!
  
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  March 3, 2018 8:33pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    May give it a miss this year. Quite a crowd to fight through. Night glow a spectacular sight and fireworks to finish the night. Good family fun.
    
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    March 3, 2018 8:36pm
    - gorse
      
      Look for the egg flying this year
      
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      March 4, 2018 8:03am
- Gabby
  
  You were served by someone educated in New Zealand? That’s wakko!
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:30pm
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  If Twyford or Robertson was on the tills they would have written a cheque for $32 million
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:27pm
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  Quicker to say ‘keep the change’.
  
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  March 3, 2018 10:52pm
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    Not part of the education system
    
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    March 4, 2018 7:52am
gorse

Nearly 450 postings, what a great group of postings, bar a few like stephieboy, ztev, etc. This blog spells the end of whaleoil surely?.
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  Cameron Slater spells the end of WOBF.
  
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  March 3, 2018 9:32pm
rangitoto

Mega Colonies of 1.5 million Adele penguins suddenly appear in Antarctica. Taxinda must have sprinkled some pixie dust.
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March 3, 2018 9:52pm
Monique Watson

Don’t stop posting now. Only two comments away from the half ton and we have a collective responsibility not to let those two tits get in the 500th comment. Also, am planning a to NZ this time next year.
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March 4, 2018 5:51am
Komata

Goooood morning Monique

it would seem that we are the only one’s here at the moment, but if it’s No. 500 you want, herewith that number – happy to oblige.

No.5oo it is….
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March 4, 2018 6:20am
Komata

(Later): Most odd; While the ‘Post Count’ was 499 when I made my post as per Monique’s request, , it now shows 506 posts, despite nothing following my ‘500’ post.

Although this should now supposedly be post No. 501, the ‘machine’ has decided that it is actually No. 507.

Perhaps the ‘machine’ can’t count?

One wonders…
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