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Monique Watson

So Putin managed to do what that rookie Jong-un couldn’t and load up an ICBM without detection by the West. Whatever else you can say about him he’s a master of the bait-and-switch at shopping erroneous information to the West. The Sarmat launch wasn’t expected until 2020
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March 31, 2018 8:03am
- virtualmark
  
  Not that we should be happy about that. The Sarmat is thought to be the first Russian ICBM with the ability to reach New Zealand.
  
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  March 31, 2018 10:44am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Ayup. Not happy, just bemused how that literally flew below the radar. It was in the offing he was going to pull something while the world was distracted by the Skripal poisonings but I thought it might be a border incursion rather than notching up the arms race. However he and Trump locked horns just 48 hours previously. So it won’t be the last.
    
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    March 31, 2018 11:13am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  It is a game of Poker. Putin and Trump are trying to flush him out (Kim Jong Un) Why do you think Rocket Man went to China? Support that’s why. Xi Jinping told him to piss off. China has good cards as well. Rocket Man has a pair of twos, with one more card to draw
  
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  March 31, 2018 5:31pm
KiWombat

It’s Easter here in God’s backyard

Nothing to see here !
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March 31, 2018 8:12am
Nostradamus

Spotted on the NZ Herald website (home page):

SPORT
Steve Smith’s classiest move yet
31 Mar, 2018 6:42am
Quick Read
The West is troubled by Russia’s new interest in the world’s 400 fibre-optic cables.

I wouldn’t have thought a Steve Smith story was related to Russia and 400 fibre-optic cables, but our newspaper of record can’t be wrong, can it?
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March 31, 2018 8:16am
- Nostradamus
  
  The NZ Herald has just fixed it – 3 hours later:
  
  SPORT
  Steve Smith’s classiest move yet
  31 Mar, 2018 6:42am
  Quick Read
  Smith’s presser was the perfect start on his road to redemption, but it got better.
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:42am
- Harkman
  
  So these losers cheated (probably more than once too), they get caught and bawl like a three-year-old who’s just been told he isn’t allowed any more Easter eggs. These girl’s blouses are beginning to make me like Lance Armstrong (and he’s a real a—hole). At least he didn’t cry like a sissy when he was caught.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:46am
  - matchbox
    
    Bawling that qualified for immediate expulsion from any self-respecting acting school.
    
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    March 31, 2018 1:26pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Notice, every incident of this type, one of the teams always appears to be Australia?
    
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    March 31, 2018 1:39pm
DifferentPerspective

Just another brick in the Wall?

Just for the resident TDS sufferers
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March 31, 2018 8:16am
- Inandout
  
  Around Mt Roskill or Mexico border?
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:53am
- Mattb
  
  The only derangement is coming from you and Trump: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-border-wall-rhetoric-increasingly-divorced-reality?cid=sm_fb_maddow
  
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  March 31, 2018 11:01am
  - Inandout
    
    What a joke site. Nothing on FISA I could see.
    
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    March 31, 2018 4:05pm
stigie

The other morning on the AM Show they had a lady on from some organization that makes lunches for kids who go to school without.
Last year she made lunches for 27 schools and this year it has risen to 56 schools.
This got me thinking, what happens to the poor kids when there’s about 12 weeks holidays a year and no access to these lunches..?
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March 31, 2018 8:25am
- Northland Wahine
  
  Their parents flood Winz offices for even more food grants.
  
  As they will do on Tuesday and Wednesday because they’ve wasted money on chocolate Easter eggs.
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:31am
  - artemisia
    
    Are recipients of emergency grants still required to go to budgeting classes after a certain number? Or is that a sanction too far these days?
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:38am
    - Northland Wahine
      
      Always a loop hole artemisia… budgetors in the South Auckland area at least are booked months in advance and are over stretched. The vast majority are volunteers and are often beneficiaries themselves.
      
      We are told to take the clients “word” on where their money went. So a good case manager will “itemise” in their notes what the client has “stated” in regards to their spending.
      
      And for the record, I’m all for kids getting an Easter egg. But when you see people buying $10-15 on one Chocolate item and there’s 4 or 5 of them in the basket, I cant see that Easter egg filling that tummy over the weekend.
      
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      March 31, 2018 1:40pm
- holysheet
  
  Don’t forget the free milk from all the despised dairy farmers. Most of them are old, white and heavy polluters.
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:32am
  - simpleton1
    
    It costs the average Fonterra dairy farm supplier around $2000 every year.
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:37am
    - milkmaid
      
      Several farmers I have spoken to are unhappy about it too, as they give the children UHT milk so vile-tasting it even puts farmers’ own children off milk.
      
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      March 31, 2018 10:34am
- Nostradamus
  
  Stigie:
  
  This got me thinking
  
  There’s no need to think, Stigie, as Jacinda has done all the thinking for you!
  
  Jacinda Ardern – interview with Lisa Owen on The Nation – 22 July 2017
  
  We’ve rejected the idea from National that we can afford tax cuts right now when we have a situation where, for instance, the Salvation Army is telling us we’ve got the worst homelessness that they have ever seen, kids doing homework in cars, people not able to access health services. The choice that we’re presenting to voters is we need to invest in those social services, reject the idea of $20 a week and make sure that New Zealand is the prosperous nation that gives a good start to every child.
  
  That’s too waffly for my liking, but lots of people voted Labour…
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:34am
  - stigie
    
    Yep Nostra, just as we thought, this is all National’s fault !~
    
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    March 31, 2018 8:42am
- KiWombat
  
  This unmasks an issue that the government really should address:-
  
  Breeding, but not feeding !
  
  Unfortunately organisations like this are, unwittingly perhaps, helping remove the responsibility for parents to feed their offspring. Whilst there is no doubt that some families are in difficulty and finding it hard to provide children with even one reasonable daily meal, the bigger issue is that the very same families continue to breed and continue to increase pressures on these organisations, and government, to service basic parental responsibilities.
  
  If a parent cannot feed his/her own child, then I believe that the child should be removed by the state and placed somewhere better.
  
  Unfortunately, as we have seen in countless third world countries, this will not stop them from bringing yet another mouth to feed in to world !
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:24am
  - KiWombat
    
    – – I’ll bet London to a brick that none of those 56 schools would be charter schools !
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:11am
  - GoVege
    
    KiWombat: you can’t reduce breeding without dealing with the male chauvinism fueling it.
    I think most of us have noticed that the vast majority of the poor in this country are from sexist Polynesian cultures.
    Most of their men demand that their women do not use contraception.
    How else is a man to keep his wife/wives dependant on him without half a dozen or more little kids clinging to her skirts?
    Polynesian women have told me how they got pregnant because their husband threw out their “medicine” or spent all their money at the snooker hall so they had no money to get some.
    Fortunately in NZ they have the options of abortion or sterilization, which many of them take.
    In their homelands, they can get none of these.
    Maori women are brainwashed against using contraception,even though it is available.
    
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    March 31, 2018 12:40pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  My grandchildren go to school for breakfast, they do not ‘need’ to and I am note sure that they should do, except it is good that no-one should feel ‘shame’, which might be felt be some otherwise, my lot go because their mother won’t let them have sugar on weetbix at home.
  
  I am sure that they and others like them scew the stats.
  
  They are from a two parent, non beneficiary family, who have a cooked meal every night. Plus all manner of extravagances.
  
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  March 31, 2018 11:34am
  - KiWombat
    
    Rachael you sound like a gem !
    
    I hear what you say about skewing the stats, and this is a very valid point.
    
    My grand daughter is out of the same mold as yours. Interestingly she rather drinks milk or juice when she comes to visit grandad, and has not yet
    discovered the “joys” of Coca Cola !
    
    However when measured against the governments measures, she is effectively “living in poverty.”
    
    She also has her own Air New Zealand airpoints card, and has already qualified for a free trip !
    
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    March 31, 2018 6:59pm
lifesgood

Isn’t it about time the msm started up again with their endless stories on poverty, homeless people starving children etc. Or have all these problems been miraculously solved since the col got in.
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March 31, 2018 8:32am
- backster
  
  And what about the Immigration figures thy were updating each week or so?
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:59am
  - GazzaW
    
    ……but it’s now ‘targeted’ immigration backster. The problem for the CoL is that there are targets all over the place!
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:51am
    - simo
      
      The left tells lies….lots of them. Trouble is they get caught out which proves their thick as well. MSM believe this is OK with NZ voters. Some bad news on its way for the fourth estate.
      
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      March 31, 2018 9:48pm
- KiWombat
  
  See my post above !
  
  Starving children is on the increase, and more and more pressure is being applied to third party organisations to feed children that are neglected by their own parents !
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:26am
- macdee
  
  they don’t need to, all is well http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/inspire-me/102696690/48-hours-with-Jacinda-warm-earnest-accessible-is-our-PM-too-good-to-be-true?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
  
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  March 31, 2018 10:00am
  - MrTips
    
    Lol. Amanda Hooton appears to be an Aussie life and style reporter that knows jack about politics. No comments and blatant fluff – smells like Boucher arranged.
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:09am
holysheet

“So Kelvin,” said Hone. “Did you remember to put your clock forward like I said?”
“I did,” replied Kelvin. “But I won’t be doing it again.”
“Why not, Bro?” “It tipped off the mantelpiece and smashed to pieces.”
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March 31, 2018 8:34am
- Viking2
  
  You still have a mantle piece?
  
  Yeh bro,can’t afford one of those affordable houses with a heat pump and beside what would I cook the pigeons on if I didn’t have the open fire.
  
  Can’t cook them and kumera on a heat pump.
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:40am
Viking2

Her latest victims? Children at a Christchurch intermediate.

In a speech to these students, she told them that “old white men” need to “move on” from company boards in order to help close the gender pay gap. So in a nutshell, a racist, ageist and sexist statement, but don’t let that get in the way of what she regards as a profoundly feminist message.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12020088

A complete and sensible attack on the racist, ageist, sexist Genter.

Nice.
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March 31, 2018 8:34am
- KiWombat
  
  Time for GangGreen’s yank skank to move on again !
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:28am
- calendar girl
  
  Winston Peters, architect of the CoL, refused (and still refuses) to have anything to do with the Greens. The latter are a problem for Labour:
  – to manage;
  – to keep inside the hutch; and
  – to prevent collateral damage to the CoL.
  
  So step up, Ms Ardern, it’s your problem. Your ‘colleague’ Genter is doing untold damage to your Government and its credibility. When will you deal with her?
  
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  March 31, 2018 10:04am
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On Claire Curran – she’s got form in getting people fired due to her conflicts of interest:

“In May 2006 Curran was appointed to a contractual role within the Ministry for the Environment following a recommendation from Environment Minister David Parker’s office to provide communications advice on the Government’s climate change strategy. This appointment was the subject of an investigation by the State Services Commission into the appropriateness of Curran’s engagement. The report found that the Ministry had failed to adequately identify Curran’s conflict of interest with respect to her relationship with Minister Parker. The report found that a staff member in Parker’s office had described Curran as Parker’s “right-hand woman” and in an email to Environment Ministry Chief Executive Hugh Logan, and recommended that Curran meet with Logan to discuss communications. Logan resigned as Chief Executive of the Ministry hours before the State Services Commission’s report into the Curran affair was released.” (from wikipedia).

As for he latest predicament? Some where David Benson Pope is laughing into his ballgag.
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March 31, 2018 8:35am
- Nostradamus
  
  Exclamation Mark:
  
  David Benson Pope is laughing into his ballgag
  
  I think you mean the thing that David Garrett politely described as Benson Pope’s ballsack stretcher?
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:39am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Nostradamus , now how we should describe DG with his indiscretions ?
    
    Scrotum shrinker ?
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:01am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      As far as I know, David Garrett doesn’t have any sexual indiscretions in his past, but you imply that he has when you refer to “[s]crotum shrinker”. I’m not your lawyer, so feel free to ignore my advice, but you may wish to retract that statement…
      
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      March 31, 2018 9:07am
      - stephieboy
        
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        Nostradamus ,
        
        .””But love is blind and all that…and she is from the same party as Mr Benson-Pope…I wonder if he still wears his ballsack stretcher at the local sex club?
        
        A sex club in Dunedin! bugger me, it hardly bears thinking about…”
        
        I take the above is not defamatory ??
        
        Right ?
        
        Shall we be charitable and say its that it is childishly silly .
        
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        March 31, 2018 9:15am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        In 2007 Ian Wishart published an Investigate article that provided explicit details of Benson-Pope’s BDSM activities:
        
        What you are about to read is R18 rated, because it has to be. It is impossible for readers to understand the mind of David Benson-Pope and whether he is fit to be Minister of Social Development if we shield you from all of the specific detail that follows. Additionally, the Labour Government will again challenge Investigate to “put up or shut up”, as the Prime Minister has done before, so this time we’re releasing enough information to prove the allegations beyond reasonable doubt. There is other information that we hold which may become relevant if Benson-Pope chooses to make it so.
        …
        Sado-masochistic sexual torture has, surprisingly, taken off in recent years as society’s tolerance of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender sex has grown. … Gay Labour MPs Tim Barnett and Chris Carter sometimes attend BDSM functions in Christchurch and Auckland respectively, but until Investigate received a tip off earlier this year no-one knew that Benson-Pope was even more involved than either of his gay colleagues.
        …
        
        There was a lot of media commentary and public discussion at the time. So David Garrett is relying on a matter of public record to support his statement. You, on the other hand, may have difficulty pointing to a matter of public record to support your question (and implication) regarding David Garrett. Unless you know something that I don’t?
        
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        March 31, 2018 9:29am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        SB,
        The ultimate defence against a defamation action is truth.
        Most of your comments are not charitable, but many of them are childishly silly.
        That we can agree on.
        
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        March 31, 2018 9:31am
      - stephieboy
        
        Nostradamus , the proof that Ian Wishart has the allegation is other than an allegation ??
        
        Or is it simple muckraking?
        
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        March 31, 2018 10:18am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @stephieboy
      
      It may have escaped your attention but David Garrett is no longer a Member of Parliament.
      
      He is private citizen.
      As far as I am aware he has never created a situation which has forced a Public Servant out of his/her job.
      
      David Garrett’s sex life is his own private business. Why on earth would you want to draw attention to it?
      
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      March 31, 2018 9:38am
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, he was an MP until forced to resign. I presume David Benson Popes sex life is his own private business.
        
        Or is it open season on him alone?
        
        “Investigate magazine published, in February 2006, allegations that he entered the girls’ dormitory to awaken students twice, and that he told them once that they were taking too long to shower after a “mud run.” Benson-Pope denied any impropriety.[3]…”
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Benson-Pope
        
        What proof has David Garrett have on sexual misconduct on Benson Pope other than the aove piece of mud racking ?
        
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        March 31, 2018 9:45am
      - burt
        
        stephieboy
        
        You, and others, may have also forgotten about the allegations of Benson-Pope walking into girls changing rooms which earned him the nickname Benson-Peep. There were multiple allegations and in true Labour Party form nothing at all was done about it,
        
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        March 31, 2018 9:52am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        SB, you really want to draw all the Benson-Pope to the fore again? What planet are you orbiting?
        
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        March 31, 2018 9:54am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        The report on Benson-Pope’s behaviour is in relation to his duties as a Member of Parliament.
        http://www.investigatemagazine.co.nz/Investigate/13943/something-else-david-benson-pope-fudged-on/
        
        No-one is making any claims about his behaviour post-MP.
        
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        March 31, 2018 9:54am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        Forget about Wikipedia. A more authoritative source is the Investigate Magazine article I linked to above. It begins:
        
        THE SECRET LIFE OF DAVID BENSON-POPE
        
        [Author’s note: when this story was published online in November last year, David Benson-Pope refused to deny the detailed allegations contained in the full version. In fact, he went to the trouble of ringing a senior Otago Daily Times journalist at home that evening, expressly to ensure that the newspaper was not quoting him as denying the story. Instead, the quote he approved was the much more vague: “When would I have time for that?” To this day, despite many attempts to get a straight answer, Benson-Pope has still never denied the story.]
        
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        March 31, 2018 10:04am
      - stephieboy
        
        burt ., an allegation does not make it a fact!
        
        Or on Ian Wishart’s say so !
        
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        March 31, 2018 10:21am
      - stephieboy
        
        MW , irrelevant whether Benson Pope was an MP or not.
        
        The Investigate article was never a proven fact like much of the other stuff published in that CT rag.
        
        https://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/investigate-magazine-covered-chemtrails-in-2000/
        
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        March 31, 2018 10:27am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        irrelevant whether Benson Pope was an MP or not.
        
        No, it is not irrelevant. It is because Benson-Pope held Public Office and had taken a stance on upholding the values of traditional Marriage that his private life was exposed. As he was Associate Minister of Education, it was relevant to reveal the accusations of violence and sexual harassment when he was a school teacher had been levelled against him.
        
        You carry on smearing and writing nasty innuendo about private citizens here on a public forum and you will doubtless discover what is relevant and what is irrelevant.
        
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        March 31, 2018 10:56am
      - thedavincimode
        
        Enough with the face slaps Maggy. Just give him another turbo-charged kick in what’s left of his balls.
        
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        March 31, 2018 11:04am
      - Kimbo
        
        David Garrett’s sex life is his own private business
        
        Not entirely (justified adverb!). Or at least not when David Garrett chooses to reveal on Kiwiblog his latest MILF Tinder conquests. ?
        
        You can take the boy out of Gisborne, but you can’t take the Gisborne out of the boy! ?
        
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        March 31, 2018 11:18am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Kimbo
        
        The point I was trying to make when I wrote
        Why on earth would you want to draw attention to it?
        
        was that we have been overwhelmed with DG’s exploits.
        Stephieboy might think DG is indiscrete, but so what?
        It’s DG’s own business what he gets up to on his own dime.
        If DG wants to share with fellow KBers, then Stephieboy can click past his posts if he is so offended.
        
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        March 31, 2018 11:44am
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy Wassilief ,
        
        Investigate magazine made an allegation against David Benson Pope .
        
        An allegation or a fact?
        
        it remains and allegation and unless anything to the contrary is untrue !
        
        Whether in or out of office is irrelevant!
        
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        March 31, 2018 12:50pm
    - Harkman
      
      So you defend Benson-Pope regarding his private life, but all you lefties thought it was open season to pry into the private lives of Key’s children. Good to see the left has their principles in order.
      
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      March 31, 2018 9:55am
      - stephieboy
        
        harkman, too stupid to comprehend !
        
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        March 31, 2018 3:18pm
- Viking2
  
  So who was screwing who then?
  lots of names in play.
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:42am
Viking2

Nice day in the Bay today.
suns out, jazz festival is all go.

No pollies fucking the day.

Fishing is not bad.
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March 31, 2018 8:36am
- stephieboy
  
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  V2, ,hopefully no drugging or d and d, indecently exposing yourself etc warranting their attention .
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:57am
  - flipper
    
    Just like a Labour Minister did down at de Brett’s ….. but was outed by Criminal Intelligence and R D Muldoon ………….
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:10am
    - stephieboy
      
      flipper , when was that ? 30, 40 , 50 years ago?
      
      Sigh ??
      
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      March 31, 2018 9:31am
  - Manolo
    
    An unwarranted personal attack from you, stephieboy. Get a grip.
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:34am
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo , wasn’t the Colin Moyle affair in the long,, long dim distant past?
      
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      March 31, 2018 9:41am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    That slanderous implication is childishly silly.
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:37am
  - Viking2
    
    fuck off you plonker.
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:20am
    - stephieboy
      
      V2 ,if I have caused offence then I apologise.!
      
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      March 31, 2018 10:23am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        You should probably apologise to David Benson-Pope for dragging his sordid history up again for no reason other than to get your comment count up.
        And to KBers for boring the beejeezus out of us all in the process of your struggle for relevance.
        
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        March 31, 2018 5:05pm
- holysheet
  
  Give them time, the day has just started.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:13am
starboard

Wasn’t Mallard porking Curran at one stage?
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March 31, 2018 8:41am
- stigie
  
  Oh yuk starboard !
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:47am
  - lifesgood
    
    Seems he’s had a few. Now married to the totally unbiased Listener political commentator, Jane Clifton. Unbiased? What a joke.
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:11am
    - Jack5
      
      And Helen Clark and Barely Sober were at the wedding.
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11380118
      
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      March 31, 2018 10:26am
  - Happychappy
    
    Yes stigie after visiting the Mansion to see the fat Kraut you would never know what it cost her for his favor. Yuk is not strong enough.
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:14am
- Manolo
  
  All the way, indeed. 🙂
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:35am
- RF
  
  A shattered Labour staffer is still suffering from flash backs after unexpectedly walking into an office occupied by the Duck and Curran.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:46am
  - sooty
    
    An earlier Pants Down Brown.
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:10am
- Inandout
  
  Do Muslims also pork people, like in Sweden?
  
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  March 31, 2018 10:27am
rightoverlabour

So motorists suffer because some stupid fuck plays “suicide by cop”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/102739162/police-operation-closes-stretch-of-state-highway-1-north-of-auckland

Can see the responses already

He was such a nice guy
Misunderstood
Police brutality again
We love you bro

As far as I am concerned, a POS has been eliminated from the gene pool.
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March 31, 2018 8:50am
- stephieboy
  
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  rightoverlabour , the sane and rational amongst us will patently await as the facts emerge instead of drawing stupid conclusions like you .
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:54am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    So what will you be doing while the sane and rational wait?
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:01am
    - backster
      
      Aging by about three years.
      
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      March 31, 2018 9:09am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    the sane and rational amongst us
    
    That reminds me of this scene in the Fellowship of the Ring:
    
    Frodo: I will take it! [All continue to argue] I will take it! [All fall silent] I will take the Ring to Mordor. Though… I do not know the way.
    …
    Merry: We’re coming, too! [Elrond looks astounded] You’d have to send us home tied up in a sack to stop us!
    Pippin: Anyway, you need people of intelligence on this sort of mission… quest… thing.
    Merry: That rules you out, Pippin.
    Elrond: Nine companions. So be it. You shall be the Fellowship of the Ring.
    Pippin: Great! Where are we going?
    
    🙂
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:02am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Would have thought something including Gollum sneaking around and arguing with himself would have been on the cards…
      
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      March 31, 2018 9:05am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Stephanie: “the sane and rational amongst us will patently (sic) await ”
    
    Patiently?
    
    Facts: He never got to hear Ralph Taylor’s rostered readings at St Albans the Martyr, nor attend the Stormy Daniel’s Blue Ray screenings at the Yoga Room below.
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:07am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Stephieboy, seeing you are sane and rationale, please go and get a gun, and point it at a policeman. Tell us where you are going to do this sane and rationale act so we can come and watch and video it for further reference. It’s Easter, so I’ll wait until Monday to tell you to Fuck Off.
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:23am
  - Harkman
    
    “drawing stupid conclusions”
    But that is all you do here, and on average some 45 times per day too.
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:32am
  - Inandout
    
    Like those in Les Vegas are still waiting for the gunman’s motives.
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:29am
- Simon
  
  Yep suicide by cop.
  
  While Cindy “flat affect” Ardern makes up promises about suicide prevention, she cant keep, for pure political & personal gain.
  
  It all fairly fuckup for all concerned with mongs like Labo making false promises in such sensitive areas.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:28am
VicParking

Dead quiet on the MSM front other than sport, regurgitated overseas news and repeats. Nothing seems to be happening in NZ this Easter. In Parliament this week the Government was showed up as shit useless the result of which is their cheerleaders ? have gone quiet. Twitford wins the prize for me. That guy has no understanding at all of his portfolios and when he has read the notes in front of him he has nothing left but to repeat them. Even the speaker pulled him up on this on Thursday.
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March 31, 2018 9:03am
- fernglas
  
  “Nothing seems to be happening in NZ this Easter”.
  Surely not, VP. First of all, we have winkled out at least a dozen closet Russian spies and expelled them. We are making enormous inroads into eradicating child poverty. We are planting trees, building houses and making transportation in the provinces safer and more efficient. We are prohibiting deep sea oil exploration, reinstating the Kermadec marine sanctuary and holding Australia to account for its appalling treatment of Manus Island detainees. All this while readjusting the tax system to ensure greater social equality and implicitly setting gender and colour quotas for private industry. This is Easter. Never let it be said that we are Hot, Cross and sitting on our Buns. Nor are we soft-centred Eggs. We are the party of the people, so let’s party, people.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:33am
  - Inandout
    
    Oh yipee, where is the nearest Labour Easter Camp?
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:31am
- KiWombat
  
  Yes Vic, Twitford’s about as sharp as a mashed potato sandwich !
  
  If Auckland begins to look more and more like a backstreet in Mumbai with all his JerryBuild housing, then it will help the provinces exponentially ! Maybe that’s the plan Stan !
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:41am
  - Viking2
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLA3OwEzx4
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:23am
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Looking back on the week ,

Miraculous Monday – Trade War Ends A Day After It Starts

It”s a miracle!

Or so they will have you believe. Just one market day after Trump declares a Trade War on China, team Trump is claiming victory in that Trade War with Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin saying that “the U.S. can reach an agreement with China that will avert the need for President Donald Trump to impose tariffs on at least $50 billion of goods from the country.”  “We’re having very productive conversations with them,” Mnuchin said on “Fox News Sunday,” when discussing talks with China. “I’m cautiously hopeful we reach an agreement.”

An optimist would say Trump’s threats worked and China backed down but a realist might say China’s threat to retaliate worked and Trump backed down because the net effect here is there will be no sanctions placed against China and Wilbur Ross is already running around claiming it will be a victory if China promises to buy some LNG (liquefied natural gas) from the US to help balance the trade deficit.

China, of course, doesn’t care who they buy LNG from and, like oil, it’s fungible – so it doesn’t matter who we sell it to, there’s a GLOBAL supply and demand picture that sets prices so if we sell more to China, we will sell less to someone else and not one job will be gained and not one net import/export Dollar will have shifted other than on the balance sheet with China.  ..’

https://whotrades.com/feed/4302233?showMore=1&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=feed&utm_source=idealmedia

This from a President who doesn’t understand what a trade imbalance is or means .
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March 31, 2018 9:07am
Manolo

Will the seller of smoke be ousted?
http://www.newsweek.com/does-hell-exist-pope-francis-says-no-interview-could-change-catholic-church-866010
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March 31, 2018 9:08am
- Jack5
  
  Does it exist? Hell no.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:15am
- Fletch
  
  Doubtful he ever said such a thing –
  
  https://aleteia.org/2018/03/30/3-times-pope-francis-warned-about-hell/
  
  The Catholic church has always acknowledged a Hell. The pope wouldn’t have been silly enough to suggest there isn’t one. It’s one of the core beliefs.
  
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  March 31, 2018 11:06am
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch , do you think the President will make it through the Pearly Gates?
    
    And what makes you think you will get through the same ?
    
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    March 31, 2018 12:44pm
    - Fletch
      
      I don’t think any of us really knows, tbh. The Catholic Church doesn’t subscribe to the protestant idea of being “saved” once and for all when you accept Christ. Our idea of salvation is more like something that has to be worked on day-by-day. As Paul said in Philippians, “continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling”.
      
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      March 31, 2018 12:52pm
      - Kimbo
        
        …but Paul then goes on to explain in the very next verse (Philippians 2:13), “for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose”. And that is after he had written earlier in the same letter (Philippians 1:6), “…being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.
        
        Mind you, while all Protestants hold to the doctrine of justification (which is part of salvation) by “grace alone”, through “faith alone”, not all affirm the idea of the surety of salvation. Indeed, Arminians who, by default, are the majority of evangelical Protestants think that one can lose their salvation. It’s only Calvinists who affirm unambiguously that those who have truly been justified and declared righteous by faith will see their salvation through to its final completion. And good Calvinism treats a thoughtful and considered profession of faith at face value unless there are good and visible reasons to the contrary, and never presumes who outside of the visible church may or may not be the elect who will find salvation through Christ.
        
        So yes, when it comes to Trump’s eventual eternal condition, I concur, Fletch. None of us, save God himself, know.
        
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        March 31, 2018 2:38pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      What gives you the right to speculate on who may or may not ‘make it through the Pearly Gates’?
      That judgement is best left to He who is qualified to make it.
      
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      March 31, 2018 6:09pm
VicParking

Morning Stephie, going out today so won’t get to comment on your posts. Nothing like a sleeping with your favourite goat over Easter. ?? watch out for Coxiella burnetii.
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March 31, 2018 9:10am
kowtow

Suicide by politician.

“The report suggested increased immigration to the country — including the refugee crisis which brought 890,000 asylum seekers to Germany in 2015 alone — contributed to the baby boom. While the number of babies born to German citizens increased by 3 percent in 2016, the number born to non-German women jumped by 25 percent compared to 2015. Destatis noted that the “number of women from countries with a traditionally high birth rate” had risen during this time period.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-migration-helps-bump-birth-rate-to-highest-in-decades/
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March 31, 2018 9:11am
- stephieboy
  
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  kowtow , so Germany is going to consigned to a demographic doomsday when the 80 million will be overcome by the 890,000 or so ?
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:19am
- Harkman
  
  The term refugee should be removed from the dictionary. When it is safe to return, none will return especially when they should be doing the fighting for their own freedom and to shorten the war’s length. As for Germany, watch that country tear itself to bits…..again.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:28am
  - stephieboy
    
    harkman , including the elderly, children, their mothers and infirmed?
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:37am
    - Harkman
      
      They can still fly home when it is safe to.
      
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      March 31, 2018 9:47am
    - Longknives
      
      I haven’t seen many Elderly, Children or even Women in any footage I have seen of these alleged ‘Refugees’ in Germany.
      Just thousands of angry bearded men swarming through the Country-Defecating everywhere before they find some poor local to rob,rape or murder..
      
      It astounds me what Germany has done to itself by allowing these animals in.
      
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      March 31, 2018 10:05am
      - Inandout
        
        It is the WW2 guilt Longone, they suffer in silence.
        
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        March 31, 2018 10:35am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        The WW2 guilt that is making Germany let in hundreds of thousands of antisemitic young men. Absolutely crazy!
        
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        March 31, 2018 7:09pm
Jack5

Is EAD moonlighting on the Radio NZ internet web desk over Easter?

The top news there this morning is Israel, Lorde, Palestine.
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March 31, 2018 9:14am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Thanks Jackie for reminding me – it’s that time of year when I get to dust off my favourite Easter meme:
  
  https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ee166ee118b67c63b2f3921744622b8bad2a86a668eb50aa3e8ec4f3a7bbb4df.jpg
  
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  March 31, 2018 10:08am
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD TWO, sicko !
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:35am
Huevon

New Zealand really is paradise.
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March 31, 2018 9:19am
- Inandout
  
  Except Mt Roskill and parts of Dunedin.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:26am
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout , the gift of paranoia and hysteria!
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:37am
  - skyblue
    
    More like Mt Mosquill now with so many camel shaggers living there.
    
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    March 31, 2018 11:29am
    - stigie
      
      To shag a camel, health and safety do require scaffolding at $350 a pop. One expensive shag. Then again, hush money could be out of reach also !~
      
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      March 31, 2018 11:47am
    - stephieboy
      
      skyblue , the mind of an alt righter !
      
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      March 31, 2018 3:20pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Sqwark alt right
        
        Is no day complete for you if you haven’t sqwarked that meaningless phrase on here at least once?
        Is it a personal goal, or is it in your contract?
        
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        March 31, 2018 5:16pm
- Jack5
  
  Paradise on the edge of the Pacific Tectonic Plate, complete with ordinary volcanoes, a super volcano, fault lines, earthquakes, tidal waves … and a back door into Australia.
  
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  March 31, 2018 10:24am
Manolo

The sooner she and the other hag (Clinton) retire, the better:
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/pelosi-giving-up-leadership-republicans-lose-the-house-2018-3
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March 31, 2018 9:19am
- Inandout
  
  Yet more importantly, Trump is getting more popular. Across the border though baby Trudeau is getting more unpopular.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:28am
Harkman

I remember a drunk rambling Winston telling everyone about Pike River, “I’m making no bones about it, we’ll give these people a fair-go, and yes this is a bottom line, and it shouldn’t have to be.” Wow some bottom line, he also said, “I didn’t want to be the first back in, I said when you have the first crew lining up to go back in, I’m offering to go.” Such bluster, and since? Hmmm ? the talk of re-entry is dying a slow death. If it was so easy wouldn’t they already be in? What a champion of his bottom line’s that Winston is, out there every day in full view fighting tooth and nail for it. Oh, oops, no he isn’t.
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March 31, 2018 9:21am
- waikatogirl
  
  Oh please, Winston leading a crew into a dusty old coal mine, no chance. He can barely stand, talk and breath at the same time.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:29am
  - G152
    
    Nothing is happening at Pike, nothing is going to happen at Pike and the fake news will avoid publishing that wee fact desperately .
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:47am
- stigie
  
  Haven’t Labour appointed Rob Fyfe to do a study on re entry which could take a couple of years to save Labour’s and Winston’s arses..?
  This of course is ok with the Pike River families because it’s Labour and they are open and transparent.
  Give me fucking strength someone !~
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:34am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stigie:
    
    Te Kāhui Whakamana Rua Tekau mā Iwa — Pike River Recovery Agency is making good progress. Recent website updates:
    
    Principal External Relations Advisor appointed
    Date published: 26 March 2018
    
    Family Reference Group Liaison Officer appointed
    Date published: 7 March 2018
    
    Job vacancies [My comment: the vacancies are Advisor/Senior Advisor/Private Secretary and Advisor]
    Date published: 7 March 2018
    
    Chief of Staff appointed
    Date published: 1 March 2018
    
    Chief Operating Officer appointed
    Date published: 16 February 2018
    
    How much taxpayer money is being spent on these roles and what tangible benefits will be achieved?
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:40am
    - KiWombat
      
      They have a bucket full of money to burn, so they need to find some recipients for it. What’s wrong with that ?
      
      Anyway, WeeWinnie said he would be the first to go back into Pike River, and if that is the case then there is no need for anybody else to do anything. Why on earth shouldn’t they dispense the graft ?
      
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      March 31, 2018 9:49am
    - KevOB
      
      The mine re-entry is probably legally hazardous under current law. In a litigious situation that could include anyone who breached a reasonable duty of care by recommending or promoting re-entry to a proven dangerous site.
      
      The danger is obvious: the proof of safe is not possible. Wishful thing is not sufficient.
      
      If it gets near the Courts and Ministerial responsibility is involved, including personal liability, it will be a canfull of constitutional worms.
      
      Children go where adults no better.
      
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      March 31, 2018 11:13am
    - Paulus
      
      Hasn’t $21 million been allocated for this recovery organisation ?
      
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      March 31, 2018 1:39pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Yes – that’s what I have referred to as the bucket full of money. As WeeWinnie will solve the problem single handedly they have to find something to spend all those millions on.
        
        A mighty expensive, and fruitless, conversation !
        
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        March 31, 2018 7:10pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    The latest bushwalking and mountain bike track has been opened in memory of the Pike River Mine tragedy. Not only the track opened but a memorial hut set high into the side of the mountain overlooking the valley where the mine is situated was airlifted into place by DOC at a considerable cost. Was this hut and the helicopter used to lift it paid out of the $23m allocated to the Pike River Westport office?
    
    From the website:
    Opening in 2019, this Great Walk crosses the Paparoa Range. It takes you through alpine tops, limestone karst landscapes and thriving rainforests, and provides breath-taking views. From the Paparoa Track, the Pike29 Memorial Track leads to the site of the former Pike River Mine.
    
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    March 31, 2018 9:47am
    - PhilP
      
      All started under the Key/English National Govt I dare say but the COL will take the credit for it, thank you very much. Every NZ1st mp will be there for the opening taking kudos for the Great Walk. I bet they all voted against it like they did on the Chatham’s Wharf!
      
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      March 31, 2018 10:38am
      - G152
        
        And dont forget the expense of getting Richie to fly them all in and back out
        
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        March 31, 2018 10:50am
  - lifesgood
    
    The Pike River families are morons of the highest order. All the fuss was not because they wanted the bodies retrieved but because National was in power. They have been handsomely paid out, know where their loved ones are, a monument has been erected so they should STFU. It is way, way more than anyone else gets for a similar loss, think malaysian airline crash. Uneducated simpletons those families.
    
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    March 31, 2018 10:49am
    - RF
      
      From memory Helen Clark had a suitable name for west coasters……Feral inbreds.
      
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      March 31, 2018 11:03am
    - KevOB
      
      West Coast opportunists.
      
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      March 31, 2018 11:07am
    - KiWombat
      
      lifesgood, they have STFU !
      
      It’s just WeeWinnie rattling the chains now, so the sooner we let him be the first to enter the mine the better. Can’t imagine there will be many lining up to follow him though !
      
      Meanwhile the re-entry authority is spending millions to start a conversation !
      
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      March 31, 2018 11:35am
Maggy Wassilieff

Ok folks

Could you STOP asking for selfies when Jacinda is shopping for undies?

Another fab interview for The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/30/new-zealand-likely-to-become-a-republic-in-my-lifetime-says-jacinda-ardern
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March 31, 2018 11:03am
- Nostradamus
  
  From Maggy’s link:
  
  In the interview Ardern highlight a potentially awkward aspect of her fame, being asked for selfies when shopping for underwear.
  
  “Certainly life has changed. It is just incredibly busy. But I really value being able to do normal things,” said Ardern. “Getting stopped in the middle of the lingerie section when you’re trying to stock up on a few things by an older man who wants a selfie is a little bit awkward.”
  
  Who has a confession to make?
  
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  March 31, 2018 11:45am
  - stigie
    
    It’s for us to know and you to find out Nostra..?
    
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    March 31, 2018 11:52am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stigie:
      
      I’m drawing up a short-list of Kiwibloggers who are (1) male and (2) hang out in the female lingerie section of a department store. Any thoughts?
      
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      March 31, 2018 11:56am
      - stigie
        
        That could be extended to ladies shoe stores as well Nostra..?
        
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        March 31, 2018 12:00pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Quite possibly. Stigie, but I can’t really picture Dad asking Jacinda for a selfie…
        
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        March 31, 2018 12:05pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      It’ll be Stephie lurking for selfies in the underwear section. ?
      
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      March 31, 2018 12:22pm
  - calendar girl
    
    Trash gossip from our PM for the benefit of international media. It makes me cringe with embarrassment.
    
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    March 31, 2018 12:18pm
  - Jack5
    
    This article about Jacinderella in the Guardian that Maggy links to is by Eleanor Ainge Roy, described by the newspaper as a journalist and writer based in Dunedin. It adds that Roy freelances for the Guardian and “various New Zealand magazines and newspapers”.
    
    As a freelancer, Roy gets a lot of material into the Guardian, or do we just think that? Could it be that the newspaper selects content according to the location of the visitor to its web site?
    
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    March 31, 2018 2:36pm
- stephieboy
  
  MW, what sized undergarments do you wear?
  
  https://historicalsewing.com/the-tail-of-3-bustles
  
  NZ a Republic in her ( or Our ) lifetime ?
  
  Sir John Keys set the ball rolling , eh ?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/75129464/New-Zealand-flag-referendum-final-result-Kyle-Lockwoods-Silver-Fern-the-winner
  
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  March 31, 2018 3:25pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Why the Dickens would you, Stephieboy, want to know what size undies I wear?
    
    Do you intend sending me a new set of knickers and bra?
    
    Can I request a special colour?
    Have you seen those Sports High Impact Black numbers at Smith & Caughey?
    https://www.smithandcaugheys.co.nz/shop/women/lingerie-hosiery/bras#!categoryId=136&page=13&Price=120-220
    They’re $179.95… but with planting season upon me, I reckon they’d be just the thing when I’m half-way up a slope digging holes for my little plants.
    Bonus… They’ve got my size.
    I can fly up for a fitting… so we could meet in the Lingerie section, upstairs .
    
    Now knickers…. (here’s a wee confession).. I’m quite partial to a pair of comfy Men’s grundies…..
    I’m dithering between the “Woburn” classic boxer ($75)
    https://www.smithandcaugheys.co.nz/shop/men/underwear-socks/boxers-briefs/woburn-silk-stripe-classic-boxer-73939/black
    or the Armani Trunk _ $85
    https://www.smithandcaugheys.co.nz/shop/men/underwear-socks#!categoryId=38&page=1&F25=EMPORIO-ARMANI
    
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    March 31, 2018 3:57pm
    - nasska
      
      Shit o dear….the resident perve is after details of Maggy’s underwear.
      
      He’s lowered stalking to a whole new level.
      
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      March 31, 2018 4:02pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I must admit, I am a bit worried about that request.
        
        I have tried to put the best possible interpretation upon it.
        But it feels creepy…
        
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        March 31, 2018 4:09pm
      - nasska
        
        Take your washing in at night Maggy. If he continues on this way it’s only a matter of time until he starts collecting used underwear to get himself off!
        
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        March 31, 2018 4:14pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @nasska
        
        Take your washing in at night Maggy.
        
        I’d be very surprised if anybody got anywhere near my clothesline at night, nasska.
        
        Still, I have been out on Russian Intelligence Agent surveillance for much of the day… and I’ve just hung my washing out… However it’s 28C outside with a gentle breeze… so my delicates will probably get dry in a few minutes.
        
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        March 31, 2018 4:28pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    SB,
    That question is seriously creepy.
    If I were MW I would be ringing the Police.
    
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    March 31, 2018 5:20pm
Fletch

This is what happens when a naive, inexperienced teenager gets too much power. David Hogg is a teenager whom the Left have anointed as the go-to spokesperson of the student survivors of the latest shooting. He does things like call the NRA child killers and says politicians are bitches of the NRA (and worse).

Lately he tweeted out his disappointment that no college he applied to would accept. Fox host Laura Ingraham made fun of it in a tweet and Hogg called for a boycott of her advertisers, many of whom have pulled out.

So yes – this little shit has too much power. He got offended over a tweet (which Laura has since apologized for, even though she shouldn’t have had to) and so now he is destroying her livelihood – all because he took offense over her making fun of the fact that he hasn’t got accepted into any colleges (which he brought up in a tweet himself).

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/28/david-hogg-campaign-against-laura-ingraham-sponsors/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/29/corporate-warfare-nutrish-jumps-aboard-david-hoggs-advertiser-boycott-laura-ingraham/
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March 31, 2018 11:19am
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , I would say the trouble is that the President does not serve as a useful role model.
  
  Trump’s lie o meter ratings ,
  
  http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
  
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  March 31, 2018 12:40pm
KiWombat

“After sex weeks off I’ll be back on dick !”
J Ardern
Press conference – 2 March 2018
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March 31, 2018 11:37am
- Jack5
  
  Of decks and dicks ….
  
  Have at look at this, KiWombat: overseas home carpenters react to a useful Mitre 10 video on Youtube about how to build a ~~dick~~ deck –
  
  https://youtu.be/MYBfjnhSNcY
  
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  March 31, 2018 1:53pm
  - KiWombat
    
    I remember seeing one once – on you tube search “My big deck”
    
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    March 31, 2018 2:33pm
Anne Glen Eden

LOL. I find it difficult to believe that John Roughan lives in the same universe as the rest of the world. He’s always filtered everything through rose-coloured glasses but this most recent justification and celebration of, and argument for continuing, dominance of pretended democracy by the ‘elite bubble’ is simply astonishing.

He says:
“Wellington is a wonderful place…They are all in politics or the public service, or they are lobbying those who are, or they are in the media…New Zealand is often called an “intimate democracy”. That is a good thing. On one level it means the great majority of people feel engaged in its government and know their opinions matter.”

Really? He means, the ‘great majority’ of politicians, public service, and lobbyists. It’s not the ‘great majority’ of the population – because politicians, public service, and lobbyist groups don’t ‘represent’ the views of the majority of the population, only their own views supposedly for the ‘good’ of everyone else.

He says, “On another level it means people in powerful or influential roles get to know each other and can work with those whose professionalism, skills and judgment they respect.”

Exactly. They don’t care about the ‘great unwashed’ who comprise the majority of the population – who undeniably have no ‘power’ or ‘influence’ and apparently neither have any professionalism, skills, or judgement in his opinion. The elite bubble must be able to reign unfettered.

“The intimacy in the capital can engender resentment and suspicion among those outside that maybe their opinions don’t matter so much, but they are wrong, I think.”

Yes. The world over, the ‘intimacy’ of the elite bubble is engendering active resentment and suspicion – in fact, outright rebellion – from those who want their views taken into account. Roughan can think they this is ‘wrong’ as much as he likes but that’s what is evident the world over; violently so.

“We get better government, better information, better politics and better decisions because we are a small, well educated, accessible democracy.”

Well, we would get better government if we were an ‘accessible democracy’. Unfortunately, we’re not. We’re governed by the ‘elite bubble’ who are totally focused on keeping their power to themselves, especially the MSM.

The saddest thing about his writing is that he clearly genuinely believes what he’s saying. I don’t doubt he’s one of those who was shocked by Brexit, Trump, the Italian elections, and the rise of ‘populism’ – which is simply the will of the people – the latter supposedly being uncivilised savages who can’t string a coherent thought together. Can you get any more patronising?
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March 31, 2018 11:50am
- calendar girl
  
  Your arguments are difficult to assess from the snippets quoted; a link to Roughan’s article would be helpful.
  
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  March 31, 2018 12:25pm
- stephieboy
  
  “.. continuing, dominance of pretended democracy by the ‘elite bubble’ is simply astonishing.”
  
  I take you didn’t even bother to vote on 23/09/17 in our “sham democracy” ??
  
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  March 31, 2018 12:38pm
Nostradamus

Good grief – what’s happening in the cricket? Anderson bowling with five – yes five – slips, and NZ (chasing 307) is 15/2 after 5.1 overs.
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March 31, 2018 12:09pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Now 18/4 after 11 overs. Sheesh – can we get to 58?
  
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  March 31, 2018 12:37pm
  - stigie
    
    Shit, after all this im now looking forward to the Warriors verses Roosters game at 7.30 tonight !~
    
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    March 31, 2018 12:46pm
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      Warriors verses Roosters?
      Will that be poetry in motion?
      
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      March 31, 2018 1:20pm
Anne Glen Eden

Jacinda gets worse by the day. I thought H1 was embarrassingly crass at the best of times, but Jacinda is developing it into an art form.

Fancy going over to the Queen’s home country, stating clearly that the people of NZ are fond of her and don’t want to become a ‘republic’, but Jacinda expects us to get rid of the Queen in Jacinda’s lifetime. Of course, it would be an article for the Guardian.

I note also they’re quoting her question to Obama, of how he ‘dealt with the guilt’. I can think of lots of reasons why she may feel guilty, given the blatant dishonesty the Labour Party are guilty of, particularly her as leader.

However, I don’t think I’ve seen anything as ludicrous as equating Obama’s commitment (or not) to ‘family life’ with the mental, physical, and emotional demands of female pregnancy, birth, and motherhood, the latter certainly in the first instance.

It’s like it’s a choice of some kind that she CAN make – or a trade-off she SHOULD make – all other women along with her, by implication – that irrespective of any ‘damage’ she does to herself or her child, it’s all okay if ‘she does her best’ to stay PM.

And then, of course, they got on to her buying underwear and being accosted by ‘older men’ hanging out there.
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March 31, 2018 1:01pm
- Jack5
  
  Another Guardian article by the New Zealand freelancer Eleanor Ainge Roy, this time, according to the byline, “in Auckland”.
  
  I’ve questioned elsewhere whether such articles on NZ are directed (via Net) only to NZ.
  
  I’ve checked this one, and it’s going to all Guardian net readers.
  
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  March 31, 2018 5:38pm
kowtow

Bwahahahahaha.

‘Grace Mugabe’s farm invaded by gold diggers
Gold panners shouted obscenities at the former first lady when she tried to confront them as they mined for the precious metal. Unsuccessful in her attempt to evict them, Mugabe has filed a police complaint.’

http://www.dw.com/en/zimbabwe-grace-mugabes-farm-invaded-by-gold-diggers/a-43199302
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March 31, 2018 1:03pm
sooty

Going to be interesting to read some of Whineys missing pages when Secret Cindy takes a hike!
What happens to the leadership if Cindy should chuck the job of PM?
Who would take her place?
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March 31, 2018 1:04pm
- Paulus
  
  Andy of course appointed by the Unions once again.
  
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  March 31, 2018 1:44pm
sooty

Would there be a cabinet reshuffle?
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March 31, 2018 1:05pm
sooty

That would be interesting? It may explain the shuffling in the ranks.
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March 31, 2018 1:10pm
sooty

If Angry did not work the first time.
Would you try him again?
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March 31, 2018 1:12pm
Viking2

A Maori Doctor can’t find a job in a Hospital , so he opens a clinic and puts a sign outside

‘GET TREATMENT FOR $20 – IF NOT CURED GET BACK $100.’
A lawyer thinks this is a great opportunity to earn $100 and goes to the clinic.

Lawyer: “I have lost my sense of taste.”

Doc; “Nurse, bring medicine from box No. 22 and put 3 drops in patient’s mouth.”

Lawyer: “Ugh. this is kerosene.”

Doc; “Chur, your sense of taste is restored. Give me $20.”

The annoyed lawyer goes back after a few days to recover his money.

Lawyer: “I have lost my memory. I cannot remember anything.”

Doc; “Nurse, bring medicine from box no. 22 and put 3 drops in his mouth.”

Lawyer (annoyed): “This is kerosene. You gave this to me last time for restoring my taste.”

Doc; “Chuuur. You got your memory back. Give me $20.”

The fuming lawyer pays him, and then comes back a week later determined to get back $100.

Lawyer: “My eyesight has become very weak I can’t see at all.”

Doc; “oh well, I don’t have any medicine for that, so take this $100.”

Lawyer (staring at the note): “But this is $20, not $100!!”

Doc; “Chuuuur, your eyesight is restored. Give me $20”

Billy T James
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March 31, 2018 1:12pm
burt

I bet this guy wishes he was a NZ Labour Party member.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/102741406/french-charge-fatherinlaw-of-pippa-middleton-in-alleged-rape-case
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March 31, 2018 1:12pm
RW Capitalist

To use a military vernacular.
Labour’s scandals, could be termed “A target rich environment”
Personally I would describe the collective IQ of the Govt. front bench, as less than the weatherboards on my house.
Certain members being a wonder to modern science….How any mammal could have so little brain function and still be breathing.
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March 31, 2018 1:45pm
UpandComer

http://voxday.blogspot.com.au/2018/03/pity-poor-refugees.html?m=1

This is gold. why is Israel shooting so many new Israelis, no different to any of the current inhabitants of Israel at a border wall? Don’t they know the benefits to their economy of the Muslims? Don’t they know they are a nation of immigrants? What of their sacred duty to abjure idolatry and act constructively and beneficially, to Tikkun the olum? Have they forgotten the sacred law of Ellis Island? That once they were visitors in Egypt? For shame. Diversity is our strength. Netanyahu and Ayalet Shaked, tear down that wall. Build bridges to men’s hearts, not walls of the mind!
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March 31, 2018 2:39pm
- stephieboy
  
  UpandComer , maybe there is a lot for us to learn given Israels multicultural diverse population that includes at least 1 million Muslims,
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel
  
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  March 31, 2018 3:33pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Why do you say ‘muslims’ you mean ‘new Israelis’.
    
    There is no difference whatsoever between the new vibrant Israelis and the old moribund Israelis who need to be replaced.
    
    1 million is simply not enough. The more diversity the better. It is simply cruel and un-Israeli for the a former wandering tribe to keep out any new Israeli who seeks to make his home in the new Israel. That isn’t who they are. That’s not the Israel we all knew and loved. That’s not Israeli values. They must tear down that wall and stop being so racist and xenophobic. Diversity is a nation’s strength. The more diversity, the better. Israel is a nation of immigrants. They have a sacred duty to take in any and all refugees and house them, clothe them, feed them, give them everything they want and then allow them to grow until they are more numerous then the old Israelis
    
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    March 31, 2018 4:13pm
- 6dedbec3fb49ddf57d63951af9aa5cf0
  
  Open borders for Israel!
  
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  March 31, 2018 3:59pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Hard to pronounce name. Troll Alert
    
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    March 31, 2018 6:01pm
sooty

PENNY’S Hovel listed today on trade me property. Listing number 1587196158. Agent Barfoot & Thompson for tender on behalf of the court. Closing 24th April.
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March 31, 2018 3:19pm
- stigie
  
  A fair tender would be $450.00 by the time you bulldozed the hovel and cleaned up the stench around the whole section sooty..?
  
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  March 31, 2018 4:08pm
  - nasska
    
    Noticed that the ad is a bit short on detail.
    
    A few photos of the interior & a professional opinion on whether the smell of body odour & cats piss can be removed would be helpful. 🙂
    
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    March 31, 2018 4:27pm
    - sooty
      
      Agents unable to get in, Im picking. Cat woman inside boarded up with a supply of food and bottled water and waiting out the auction. Wonder if she has internet access. When do you think tv crews will turn up. I hope someone will post link when it happens.
      
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      March 31, 2018 5:29pm
    - Longknives
      
      I hear rumours that Penny’s’ Activist mates are going to claim the house back under the Treaty (or something ) anyway.
      Buy that cat-piss shithole at your peril..
      
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      March 31, 2018 6:34pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Longknives:
        
        Here’s another way of looking at it: the tender process facilitates payment of the admission price for a front row seat at the best entertainment in Auckland in years!
        
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        March 31, 2018 6:44pm
      - nasska
        
        It’s going to write a whole new meaning for the term “vacant possession”! 🙂
        
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        March 31, 2018 6:50pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        The photo on the Trade Me ad (untidy front yard) devalues the property. Penny needs to do some spring-cleaning urgently – or she’ll be forced to buy a bedsit in an affordable area (next door to you?) after High Court sale costs and Auckland Council debts are deducted from the sale price!
        
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        March 31, 2018 6:59pm
      - nasska
        
        She’s batshit mad Nostra. Anyone who has followed the sorry saga would realise that her ‘rates protest’ was an act. She spent the money on travelling to anti corruption conferences & living a workless life to give her time to feed her hunger for controversy & self promotion.
        
        But, economic survival would suggest that once she’d exhausted all legal avenues the time had come to sell the dump for the best price & move on.
        
        Instead she has done everything humanly possible to rubbish the price through threats & non-cooperation.
        
        She’s made her bed…..let her lie in it.
        
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        March 31, 2018 7:14pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        “threats and non-cooperation”
        
        That’s a thought: the High Court probably has access to some “heavies” who have a notable talent for “moving people on”. The sense of anticipation is almost too much for me!
        
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        March 31, 2018 7:21pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        I reckon that pic was used by the media previously, it’s not a new one
        
        But would you go onsite to get new pics? Not fucking me.
        
        The shirt hung out the upstairs window, pure fucking class.
        
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        March 31, 2018 7:58pm
      - sooty
        
        The presant occupyer maybe?
        
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        March 31, 2018 10:06pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Play with the price range setting on Trademe and you’ll see that the agents are expecting it to sell for above $750,000.
      
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      March 31, 2018 8:17pm
      - sooty
        
        What’s that, about half price?
        Then take out fines, fees, etc and she gets half of that. She’s going to be one happy camper!
        
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        March 31, 2018 10:10pm
MH

easter bunny has mixa-me-toasties, Bradbury to cull 20,000 chocolates including choc fish (as it’s a Christian idol) from shelves even though they are both still edible.
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March 31, 2018 4:02pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/27/dutton-should-prioritise-refugees-on-nauru-not-white-south-africans-unhcr-says

“At a press conference in Canberra to warn of the “devastating” impact of detention on children, the UNHCR director for Asia and the Pacific, Indrika Ratwatte, said refugees on Nauru should be prioritised and quotas should not be spent on any decision to open migration to South African farmers.”

“Ratwatte responded: “The decision of the government to open its migration pathways to different categories of people is a sovereign decision but from the UNHCR perspective we do encourage that resettlement opportunities that are for refugees and humanitarian quotas, that are for deserving cases, should not be impacted by these decisions on migration.

“Places should be preserved for those who are truly vulnerable and in need of protection and a solution.”

Seven backbench MPs – including Andrew Hastie, Andrew Laming, Craig Kelly, Jim Molan and Luke Howarth – raised the issue in the party room, warning of high rates of violence in South Africa and defending Dutton against charges of racism.”
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March 31, 2018 4:36pm
nasska

I don’t get creationists…

They can’t grasp the concept of an ape like creature evolving into a man, yet they have no problem with a rib turning into a woman.
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March 31, 2018 8:01pm
- Kimbo
  
  I don’t get them (or at least your take on creationists) either. Like I keep telling my good friend and self-confessed six day, 6,ooo years ago biblical literalist, Scott
  
  …how come you don’t also believe in a flat disk earth with a solid dome sky as per the Book of Genesis? ?
  
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  March 31, 2018 8:07pm
  - nasska
    
    To your credit you’re a bit more realistic than the average religious nut Kimbo. But while we’re here….have you ever wondered why we never see a church with free Wifi?
    
    My best guess is that it’s because they don’t want to compete with an invisible power that actually works. 🙂
    
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    March 31, 2018 8:14pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Very good. Indeed, I think I’ll use that some time. Almost as amusing as the atheists who work themselves into a lather about something they don’t think is even there. ?
      
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      March 31, 2018 8:19pm
      - nasska
        
        Correction my friend. I lather not over what it is obvious doesn’t exist.
        
        What I do strenuously advocate against is the Godnutters self assumed right to dictate how non believers should live their lives.
        
        How I or my family are forced to live should not depend on wayward neurons colliding in your head. 🙂
        
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        March 31, 2018 8:32pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Kimbo:
        
        One of Nasska’s memorable Kiwiblog contributions was when he posted a GD comment at 8.02 am, on how to be “the most upticked religiously conservative nut on Kiwiblog”, and received a torrent of abuse – and downticks!
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/general_debate_1_march_2018.html#comment-2150404
        
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        March 31, 2018 8:42pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Yes, I had a feeling your Jesuitical thirst for accuracy would prompt you to go running to the fine print of the Atheists Handbook. Trust me, you have many of the qualities of a great theist. ?
        
        Just out of interest, is there a particular reason you find that theists impact your life in a manner that is more unreasonable than another other (according to your lights) superstitious constituency? Why not, for example, the quasi-pagan Greens, Spiritists or chiropractors, rather than your trademark anti-monotheism? I realise the others I have mentioned are sometimes the object of your ridicule, but not your ire as with monotheism. Not saying you are wrong in your views or prioritising, but am intrigued by your gradation of what is especially pernicious.
        
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        March 31, 2018 8:43pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Nostradamus
        
        Yeah, but I think nasska would be playing the martyr if he tried to claim he was the victim of the religious abuse. Is the same reason I get downticked when egregiously poking the stick into EAD’s ((((conspiracy)))) cage. Folks know he is an anti-Semitic idiot, but they also disapprove of clumsy trolling, no matter what the topic. Especially cliched topics which have been done to death.
        
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        March 31, 2018 8:52pm
      - nasska
        
        ….”your trademark anti-monotheism”…..
        
        Anti all theism.
        
        …..”is there a particular reason you find that theists impact your life”…..
        
        A few, but to keep it “blog comment brief” let’s go for assisted suicide. It doesn’t matter how you spin it……70% of NZ citizens want to be able to have the right to terminate their own unwanted life. Most opposition & certainly all organised opposition is orchestrated by Godnutters.
        
        Why on planet Earth shouldn’t I be against their meddling unwanted attempts to impose their will on me & mine?
        
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        March 31, 2018 8:54pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ nasska
        
        So how do other religions such as Buddhism or Hinduism or paganism affect your life, if at all?
        
        Also, I had a feeling you would mention assisted suicide. Fair enough, but I think you are blaming the wrong thing with religion for its continued criminalisation, including Parliament rejecting Michael Laws’ bill some 20+ years ago. Unlike the USA, the NZ religious lobby has little clout, as evidenced by the passage of the gay marriage legislation. Instead, it is the natural politicians’ fear of taking a controversial stand that’s could be hung around their neck at a future date.
        
        Is the same with the fear of decriminalising drugs. Who wants to be seen to be making drugs more freely available to the youthful offspring of middle New Zealand, irrespective of the data and previous failed outcomes of prohibition and the war on drugs?!
        
        Also, as a Calvinist I am wary of the illegitimate encroachment of historic Catholicism or Islam into our mutually-shared public space. But Catholics and Muslims, like Calvinists, atheists, greenies, blondes and left-handers all have a right to legitimately influence that public space by the propagation of ideas, their vote, and also being elected to political office.
        
        Also, there seems little alternative to making assisted suicide a conscience matter, given the current legal status quo. Even granting a binding referendum for us all to vote on would still be a mater of our MPs’ collective conscience in the first instance. But their conscience is informed by a wide variety of sources – life experience, family, friends, discussions with constituents, science, listening to the medical fraternity, often illogical intuition and gut instinct, inherited, imbibed or formally-adopted codes of morality and ethics, and yes, in some case religion.
        
        So with such a large number of variables influencing the conscience of each of the 120 MPs, why make such an issue of the relatively small number of committed Catholic or conservative Protestant representatives? To be frank, I think your analysis is skewed, and you are using it to have a bitch about something you don’t like (fair enough), but also erroneously imagine has more influence over your peronal life, and the public square than it really does.
        
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        March 31, 2018 9:33pm
      - nasska
        
        ….”why make such an issue of the relatively small number of committed Catholic or conservative Protestant representatives?”….
        
        Because the effect is cumulative. Every one of those qualities you listed would be natural to someone who has their moral compass defined by belief in a deity.
        
        Conservative, successful, well-connected & bound together by the tenets of the religion they were indoctrinated with as children they march in lockstep with the thinking of their church.
        
        They are a bloc of 30% of the electorate. They are entitled to exist. I am entitled to oppose them & expose them for the religio-conservative, self-centred nuts that they are.
        
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        March 31, 2018 9:53pm
      - Kimbo
        
        But the non-nominal religious don’t make up 30% of the NZ population. Instead it is about 5%. Unless you are seriously suggesting that it is only, or even primarily the religious who are opposed to assisted suicide. Many atheists and agnostics are reticent and unconvinced there is not a “slippery slope” that will result in the euthanising of the disabled and elderly against their wishes.
        
        Sorry, nasska, but I’d suggest that is projection in your part, stemming from a refusal to accept that an opinion other than your own in the issue can be justified by reason, impuricism and common sense. And atheists call theists presumptuous and arrogant…
        
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        March 31, 2018 10:33pm
Viking2

Mount Roskill loses its Easter cross for good

An “iconic” cross has been removed from Auckland’s Mount Roskill/Puketāpapa after lighting up every Easter for nearly 60 years.

The borough’s former mayor David Hay has slammed the decision, saying the structure was part of the area’s local identity.

“It is disappointing that our elected representatives have voted to stop what has been part of our heritage in Mount Roskill for so long,” he said.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/102740995/aucklands-mount-roskill-loses-its-easter-cross-for-good?cid=facebook.102740995

So the Moari’s and the Stephies have got their way.
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March 31, 2018 8:49pm
- Inandout
  
  Well Roskill is Muzzie Central.
  
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  March 31, 2018 9:56pm
Viking2

REINZ welcomes the bright-line passing its third reading
Thursday, 29 March 2018, 4:03 pm
Press Release: REINZ

REINZ welcomes the bright-line passing its third reading, but more supply still needed

The Real Estate Institute of New Zealand (REINZ) welcomes the fact that the Taxation (Annual Rates for 2017–18, Employment and Investment Income, and Remedial Matters) Bill passed its third reading in parliament last night in relation to the bright-line test. However, the housing shortage still remains an issue that needs solving immediately.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1803/S00400/reinz-welcomes-the-bright-line-passing-its-third-reading.htm

REINZ want you to pay tax on your house sale.
The good side is that it will stop its own members from ripping of house sellers as they have done forever.
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March 31, 2018 8:57pm
Monique Watson

Sec Def is unwrapping a fleet of B 21’s at Edwards. My only question is why Mattis hasn’t so far knocked some heads together at Northrop Grumman.
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March 31, 2018 9:57pm
Tauhei Notts

What has happened to the Warriors?
That abysmal record has been thrown out the door and all of a sudden we have a football team.
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March 31, 2018 10:17pm

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