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KiWombat

Are you out there Shane? – wakey wakey – 44 million trees to go now Shane – that’s 44 followed by a bucketful of zero’s !

Summer’s over now, it’s Good Friday, so it’s the right time to start planting – better go wake up your cuzzies and give them a shovel some time soon !
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March 30, 2018 8:00am
- GazzaW
  
  According to James Shaw they are still deciding on the proportionality of exotics and native trees, erosion, land availability etc and other can kicking exercises. I predict there won’t be a single extra seedling planted this year over and above the planting schedule set up by the National Government. Millions of dollars spent but not a single extra tree in the ground.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:12am
  - redeye
    
    Conversations can be expensive. Consultant fees can reach into the mid hundreds per hour, depending on your humanities degree.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:07am
- G152
  
  Of course all the groundwork has been done.
  The pine cones collected and the seeds planted.
  Must be a thousand acres of seedlings ready to be uplifted and readied for the planters.
  And all the land prepared for the seedlings with gangs with scrubsaws out there every day rain or shine.
  And Shanes cuzzies are getting off their sofas all eager to undergo the drug tests before the Big Adventure of planting a billion trees..
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:07am
  - VicParking
    
    Don’t forget the bus that will pick them up and deliver then to outside their dealers house after work.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:11am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Good luck with that I believe harvest is around now. Perhaps Shane could ask the cuzzies where there is vacant land.
    
    Dry times | NZ Drug Foundation – At the heart of the matter
    https://www.drugfoundation.org.nz/matters-of-substance/may-2015/dry-times/
    “Cannabis markets are also quite localised, so trends in one region aren’t necessarily the same in others.” Because cannabis plants are usually harvested starting at Easter, Wilkins says there is a natural drought of cannabis around this time anyway as supplies from last year’s harvest run low.
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:04am
- RF
  
  As they used to say in the army … get your arse up… hands off c***s, feet in socks.
  
  Pull finger Shane… the clocks ticking.
  
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  March 30, 2018 11:10am
Manolo

A fraction of what she used to charge. These days the hag is not very popular:
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/03/hillary_clinton_is_back_in_nj_today.html

Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton is back in New Jersey Thursday for a rare public appearance since she lost in her bid for the White House against President Donald Trump.

Rutgers will pay Clinton $25,000 from an endowment but use no money from tuition or state aid, according to the university.
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March 30, 2018 8:05am
- cmm
  
  Amazing how Bill’s inspirational speeches could raise half a million dollars when Hillary was in a position of power, but now he can’t get a gig anywhere.
  
  I think it must be because he has strained his vocal chords or something. Bummer.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:47am
- Harkman
  
  So I hosted my English aunt for a night while she was over here and I knew she was anti-Brexit. Something came up on the news about it and she grumbled. Then the next news item was either something about Trump or Hillary. To my surprise she hated Hillary calling her “corrupt” and moaned how the media picked on Trump all the time in the UK and “all the ladies in her group thought the same.” It seems the pomey media has shot it’s credibility over Trump as well. Classic.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:31am
KiWombat

Mrs W went to bed last night telling me that she needed her beauty sleep, when I saw her 30 minutes ago it still hadn’t worked !
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March 30, 2018 8:08am
- GazzaW
  
  You’re a brave man – I assume Mrs KW doesn’t read Kiwiblog.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:13am
  - KiWombat
    
    Only through the bottom of a bottle of Gin, and she’s almost half way through today’s bottle already !
    
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    March 30, 2018 8:37am
    - VicParking
      
      Come on girls, Holly, Waikato Girl deal to this misogynistic male.
      
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      March 30, 2018 9:14am
      - KiWombat
        
        I get quite enough already thank you Vic !
        
        I do shudder to think what will happen around morning tea time when she finds the bottle is empty, and that it’s one of the few days on the calendar where she can’t get a top up for lunch !
        
        Think I’ll go visiting thisafternoon to avoid the tirade, must remember to take all the car keys with me !
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:34am
      - KiWombat
        
        Update – bottle is now empty – she has made it from the bed to the couch, her exercise for the day – now wants me to find Holy Communion somewhere as the bottle shops are closed today !
        
        I should have gone out while I had the chance !
        
        I’ll have to find something, somewhere – she becomes quite intolerable when there’s too much blood in her alcohol veins !
        
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        March 30, 2018 10:54am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Your only way out is to “admit” that no improvement is required let alone necessary.
  Good luck with that.
  
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  March 30, 2018 1:01pm
MT_Tinman

They’ve all gone, each one proving they were less than men by crying – except David, of course, who took his punishment like a man.

Now can we have an end to the mindless Ocker-bashing – particularly from those who wouldn’t know a cricket ball if it jumped up and kicked them in the ass.
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March 30, 2018 8:08am
- Rich Prick
  
  I felt embarrassed at being 2,800 km close to Australia.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:56am
  - VicParking
    
    Get worried we are drifting towards them, a little bit each day, well the south island at least. However I’m not getting any urge to sandpaper my balls, get caught and have them roasted by the public.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:22am
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Jesus before Pilate ( Rod Steiger as Pilate . Excellent )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtSz-DxGFmI

Crucification of Jesus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UonsJlKD1vE&t=242s

Both from probably the best movie about Jesus

“Jesus of Nazareth (Italian: Gesù di Nazareth) is a 1977 British-Italian television miniseries directed by Franco Zeffirelli and co-written by Zeffirelli, Anthony Burgess, and Suso Cecchi d’Amico which dramatises the birth, life, ministry, crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. It stars Robert Powell as Jesus. His acting was highly praised by critics. The miniseries features an all-star cast of famous American and European actors, including eight who had won or would go on to win Academy Awards: Anne Bancroft, Ernest Borgnine, Laurence Olivier, Christopher Plummer, Anthony Quinn, Rod Steiger, James Earl Jones, and Peter Ustinov….”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_of_Nazareth_(miniseries)
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March 30, 2018 8:10am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  I find your spreading of Christian propoganda offensive not to mention Unislamic Stephie.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:12am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Really Stephie-confused?
  
  1000’s if half arsed, poor attempts at trolling. Misogyny, and bullying. Just being a complete arsehole not too mention porn links, confessions of perving at young girls and other assorted foul behaviour and now you going to post about Jesus, Pilate and the cross.
  
  I’d would actually slap the shit out of you right now.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:24am
  - Manolo
    
    Does our stephieboy have a weakness for young girls? Is it true or just a smear on his otherwise unimpeachable character?
    
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    March 30, 2018 8:26am
  - Swifty
    
    He could do with a good bitch-slapping now and again. Might make him a little self-aware for the first time in his life.
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:50am
- The Virgin
  
  Is Jesus the name of your goat Stupid Boy?
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:49am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Did you forget that you had posted this at 8:09am?
  What’s next? Capital letters so you can be ignored louder?
  
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  March 30, 2018 12:11pm
holysheet

Registration on the first day back at school in London, England….
Ahmed Al Sheriah ………………………………”here”
Mustafa Al Sheriah ……………………………..”here”
Fatima El Bindiri ………………………………..”here”
Ali Acmah Shabeeb ……………………………”here”
Ali Sun Al En ……………………..No answer
Ali Sun Al En?
Little girl at the back stands up and yells ……..
“It’s pronounced Alison Allen, for fuck sake !”
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March 30, 2018 8:11am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  I find distasteful that you are promoting mixed education. Women especially kafir woman have no place in Great Britain’s classrooms.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:15am
- Awww C-mon
  
  I think you will enjoy this Holy,
  
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=14s&v=Dd7FixvoKBw
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:17am
The Virgin

Aussie cricketers blubbing on TV like a bunch of teenage girls at a Bay City Rollers concert. As has been pointed out time and time again, they can give it but can’t take it. Fuck off and take your medicine.
Not unlike those leftards who come to this site and pollute it with their bullshit. Fuck off and take your medicine (Ztev, Gobby and your ilk).
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March 30, 2018 8:14am
- Chris R
  
  The Aussie cricketers are taking their medicine. I agree that their crying is unbecoming and indeed surprising! However they’d really be behaving like teenage (airhead) girls if they simply smiled, waved and said it was somebody else’s fault. Isn’t that the world according to Taxinda and her ilk?
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:35am
  - Viking2
    
    My wife laughed. She thinks that big boys don’t cry. and I agree with that.
    
    How humiliating for them.
    
    Cry babies.
    
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    March 30, 2018 8:37am
    - sooty
      
      Sports anouncers the other day on radio, said that Assie cricketers, get paid more than the allblacks. Who would have thought. No wonder they are crying like out off work Labour party MPs.
      
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      March 30, 2018 9:18am
  - kowtow
    
    Ain’t that the point here.
    
    Their first reaction to being caught was “Yeah we did it , fuck off , whatcha gonna do bout it”
    
    And hardey hardey haw haw , their supreme arrogance really has caught up with them.
    
    No sympathy.
    
    They are utterly pathetic.
    
    Their sorrow is over being caught , not about being the cheating, nasty , c#nts that they are.
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:07am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I’m astounded at the sports commentators who are advocating going easy on the cheats because it’s all very hard on them and they might break.
  They were broken already if they thought this behaviour was acceptable, and they wouldn’t have gone lightly on any player from another team caught cheating.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:42am
KiWombat

My 5 yo granddaughter told me that she loves Jesus, because when it’s his birthday she gets lots and lots of presents, and when he died she gets lots and lots of easter eggs !
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March 30, 2018 8:15am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  That is a very mercantile view of a 5 year-old. But unsurprising for the spiritually bankrupt West.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:23am
  - flipper
    
    Like Mawh0maddddd, like the Assassins, Engels, Marx, Trotsky, Hitler, Eichmann, Himmler and Musclebrain; like Stalin, Tojo, Pol Pot, Mao, Putin (et al) and the North Korean family criminal gang, Ustoev is silly.
    
    Add into that mix a screwed up education and belief system, and one has …. well ……. Ustoev (and the nutters that are the Peters-Ardern Regime).
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:33am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      What does all that verbal dioreah even mean?
      
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      March 30, 2018 9:38am
    - kowtow
      
      Lighten up, flipper . He’s brilliant and provides a bit of welcome humour in a very twisted world.
      
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      March 30, 2018 10:11am
Manolo

The barbarians are always peaceful, aren’t they?
http://www.euronews.com/2018/03/28/italian-police-arrest-citizens-with-suspected-to-links-to-isil-terrorism

Police in Italy say they have arrested a 23-year-old man of Morroccan origin who is accused of extremist links with so-called Islamic State.

The naturalised Italian was captured by anti-terrorism police in the northwestern city of Turin. He is part of a wider number of arrests on charges that include radicalisation via the internet.
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March 30, 2018 8:16am
- Inandout
  
  Easter is the ideal time for the slime to show their disdain for Christianity.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:32am
- wombatge
  
  The word “Moroccan origin” appears in almost every atrocity or attempted atrocity in Europe, there are millions of them wandering Europe as rejected or successful immigrants, willing to spread their bloody message.
  
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  March 30, 2018 12:02pm
Humble Capitalist

A friend’s relative has been sentenced for time inside. He is apparently really looking forward to going back in. What does this say about our prisons that Angry Andy was so shocked and appalled by? What does this say about Andy Victim Be-Littler? Not anything we didn’t know already….that he is a crim hugging let them out but not in my neighbourhood tugger! The ironic thing is that many of them would rather be fed and entertained on the inside at your and my expense
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March 30, 2018 8:20am
- KevOB
  
  Many have been conditioned to being imprisoned and find it very difficult to re-adjust to life outside.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:25am
  - Komata
    
    Concerning those who want to go back ‘inside’.
    
    Not an unusual phenomenon unfortunately. Most of the ‘long termer’s’ know nothing else; ‘Prison’ is their family, so when things get ‘tough’ (by their standards), they go ‘home’; back inside.
    
    Perhaps unsually (at least to Kiwi eyes), in England it is a seasonal phenomenon, especially amongst the old hands. Although they have somehow managed to survive ‘outside’ for Spring, Summer and Autumn, for these people (nvariably male and elderly), Winter is coming, and with it the cold, the damp and the distinct possibility of death through hyperthermia. Better to beat up a Bobby and get (warm) free board, food and lodging, than risk death by exposure or starvation. Many Magistrates (the ‘Judges’ who deal with such matters) recognise this and accommodate the ‘implied’ request.
    
    No doubt it also happens in New Zealand; certainly I have heard tales of the Swaggies doing such things, although that generation is now long gone and the ‘Kings of the road’ seem to be no more.
    
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    March 30, 2018 8:51am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      What a shame that the crimes that result in imprisonment are so bad for the victims, prison will be even harder to achieve if Andy gets his way.
      
      And no I do no think that prison is a deterrent to committing crime, but it is a relief for the public and victims in some measure.
      
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      March 30, 2018 10:13am
      - RF
        
        I hear that Angry Andrew is looking at residential halfway houses where criminals who do not meet the criteria for imprisonment will be housed.
        
        I know a couple who purchased a property in a nice area for a high price. Several months later a halfway house for drug addicts was opened up just down the street and house values dropped like a stone.
        
        You have been warned.
        
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        March 30, 2018 1:10pm
  - backster
    
    My heart bleeds.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:57am
Viking2

That’s all the shit out the way then.

Morning everyone on this God granted holiday.

Trust you all are at peace with your Easter eggs and your Bunnies.

Those down south had better get your bunnies vaccinated as the anti greens try once again to rid the place of pests.
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March 30, 2018 8:23am
- G152
  
  I prefer the pagan celebrations that were appropriated by christianity to make them look legit
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:12am
  - mandk
    
    The only thing about Easter that is pagan is the name.
    
    The timing of Resurrection Day (a much better name) is related to the timing of the Passover.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:47am
    - G152
      
      Yup. Jesus was a Jew and Easter is another name for the Passover
      
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      March 30, 2018 12:14pm
holysheet

It’s ironic that ferals name their children with positive images like precious, pearl or happy, when names like nick or rob would be more appropriate.
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March 30, 2018 8:29am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Thats not true. Many name their girls well. Chardonnay for example.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:39am
  - Inandout
    
    Or Cindy.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:52am
    - Humble Capitalist
      
      Or Jacinta
      
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      March 30, 2018 10:41am
      - KiWombat
        
        Don’t take life so seriously – you’ll never get out of it alive !
        
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        March 30, 2018 11:09am
      - sooty
        
        Or Lorde.
        
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        March 30, 2018 12:06pm
- kowtow
  
  ‘Months of brutal violence led up to Auckland mum Chozyn Koroheke’s murder’
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/102602516/months-of-brutal-violence-led-up-to-auckland-mum-chozyn-korohekes-murder
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:16am
stephieboy

Good Friday
Christina Rossetti

Am I a stone, and not a sheep,
That I can stand, O Christ, beneath Thy cross,
To number drop by drop Thy blood’s slow loss,
And yet not weep?

Not so those women loved
Who with exceeding grief lamented Thee;
Not so fallen Peter weeping bitterly;
Not so the thief was moved;

Not so the Sun and Moon
Which hid their faces in a starless sky,
A horror of great darkness at broad noon –
I, only I.

Yet give not o’er,
But seek Thy sheep, true Shepherd of the flock;
Greater than Moses, turn and look once more
And smite a rock.

https://www.plough.com/en/topics/culture/holidays/easter-readings/three-poems-for-good-friday
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March 30, 2018 8:31am
- Harkman
  
  I thought that all the Anglicans had converted to Islam.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:38am
  - Inandout
    
    Me too. It was something about ‘turning the other cheek’ that Anglicans seem to espouse. However certain sections of the Anglican Church have rebelled against the forces that have seen their churches being closed NZ wide. The ‘anything goes’ church ends up being a worthless shell.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:55am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Better not have. Turning the other cheek?
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:14am
holysheet

What happens to Kirton and the rest of Liabores rabble in the Beehive when Cindy is away having the nations baby? Will the drunken dwarf install his own office staff on the top floor? If so, does the taxpayer pay for all this? I know, silly question, but I don’t think the drunken dwarf will trust Cindy’s office mob any more than she does.
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March 30, 2018 8:33am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Or is it already his people in there and that’s why the people’s princess is getting hung out to dry?
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:37am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Can’t answer your question sorry HS but I was just wondering how many Olympic swimming pools of scotch the tax payer has shelled out for over the years
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:39am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    A hard drinker would do about 0.5L of whiskey a day, 200 L a year, 8000L over 40 years in parliament. Probably getting on for a million dollars pissed away if at home but 3-5x that if in a licensed premesis
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:49am
    - KiWombat
      
      Can you but scotch in 44 gallon drums ?
      
      Maybe his retirement fund could pitch in for one so he can take it intravenously ?
      
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      March 30, 2018 11:12am
      - sooty
        
        Then when he dies, they could pickle him like Nelson in a barrel.
        
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        March 30, 2018 12:08pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Scotch stored in oak barrels preferably. ?
        
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        March 30, 2018 2:15pm
    - wombatge
      
      Not sure they can get away with half a litre a day, we had a guy drink a litre a day many years ago, my boss at the time said he would kill himself in a year, he was spot on the money. The other thing pointed out me at the time, the dirty dozen in the front bar drinking eye washers of beer would get very fat, but live forever. Spirits can kill very quickly in large amounts.
      
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      March 30, 2018 12:09pm
      - holysheet
        
        For years my old man used to buy a case of whiskey a week. When that wasn’t strong enough, he used to mix sherry with it. All drunk neat of course.
        He died at 87. So it really depends on your constitution and tolerance of booze.
        
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        March 30, 2018 1:29pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  At least a small part of me is hoping the loons in Labour renege on the (secret and now I’m sure heavily sanitised) deal with Winston and install Andrew Little as acting leader and acting PM.
  
  I know they won’t, but one can dream.
  
  It’s less scary than the scenario some other cruel folk are scaring little children with – Cindy retiring and H1 returning in a Wonder Woman outfit.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:49am
  - sooty
    
    Uhh, yuuuk. I canot bare the thought of snaggletooth in the tights. You have a dirty mind.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:25am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Winston has been coveting getting his bum in the PM seat for decades. Just watch him go off the deep end once he holds the power. Baubles galore. ?
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:47am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Not comfortable with the words coveting and bum in the same sentence ;). lol
      
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      March 30, 2018 11:01am
      - sooty
        
        The first thing he will do is to give him self a knighthood. Other wise he may miss out. It’s not the Labour way. Remember call me SIR Michael Cullen.
        
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        March 30, 2018 12:11pm
- VicParking
  
  Come on…… Winney’s staff dont even no what letterhead to use
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:31am
  - GazzaW
    
    Doesn’t seem to worry Trev too much Vic.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:58am
Viking2

‘At least one non-male’: Wellington venue knocks back metal band in the name of diversity

A Wellington rock band have been refused a gig at an indie venue because they don’t feature “at least one non-male”.

Rory McDonald, 17, said Caroline, in Manners St in the central city, told him his four-piece alt-metal band Lucifer Gunne did not fit the venue’s diversity quota.

He sent a message saying: “I’m wondering why there is a requirement for one non-male member, could you please elaborate?”

Anika Moa agreed with Caroline’s policy, saying it made sense to have more female musicians in festival and club lineups.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/102675039/at-least-one-nonmale-wellington-venue-knocks-back-metal-band-in-the-name-of-diversity?cid=facebook.post.102675039

But,
A Human Rights Commission spokeswoman said there were provisions under the Human Rights Act that prohibited discrimination in the provision of goods and services.

“If someone believes they have been discriminated against, they can make a complaint to us and we will consider whether the legislation, and any exceptions, might apply and will deal with the complaint through our usual dispute resolution processes.”

Brave man who decided to do that.
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March 30, 2018 8:41am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Anika Moa recently has a gig cancelled because the evangelical Christian group involved did not agree with her sexuality, and that is just as bas as this.
  
  It’s one thing to push for diversity, but shouldn’t the foundation of diversity be acceptance that not everyone should conform to your ideals?
  
  Kiwibloggers with a good memory or good search engine will know I was wholeheartedly in support of Carve barbers who made a decision to only open for Men. I still support their right to do so.
  
  But this goes beyond an issue about the provisions of goods and services. A young band, starting out, has few opportunities to grow an audience, particularly in New Zealand. To deny this group this opportunity simply because they “did not have one Female or one Non-Male” (to use the venues words….) is disgusting and must be actionable by the HRC. These are 17 year old young men trying to make their way in the world, who are facing a roadblock for no other reason than they are men.
  
  Given what happened to Anika Moa, she should come out against this policy and promote acceptance, in all its forms.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:09am
  - starboard
    
    Moa is a fat tattooed ugly Maori with a chip on each shoulder.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:16am
    - MrLovebucket
      
      So a pretty typical kiwi lass then?
      
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      March 30, 2018 1:28pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Anyone who bans Anika Moa is a friend of mine.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:24am
    - RF
      
      An evil crude POS.
      
      I don’t care what team she bats for but please don’t push it in my face.
      
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      March 30, 2018 12:29pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    sr, yours is far too sensible thought process for the average snowflake too busy virtue signalling. 4 gangly, probably not very talented, heavy metal playing 17 year olds.
    
    I want to join that band. Yeah/nah. ?
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:57am
  - kowtow
    
    Private property rights should give the owner of a venue the ability to pick and chose who uses his venue.
    
    Otherwise it’s not private property.
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:21am
    - slightlyrighty
      
      Perhaps, but the reason given?
      
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      March 30, 2018 10:35am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Probably a polite way of saying Sod off You suck
        
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        March 30, 2018 12:15pm
      - sooty
        
        The punter can also pay the money or not.
        
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        March 30, 2018 12:15pm
    - artemisia
      
      Kowtow — So does that apply to employers and landlords as well?
      
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      March 30, 2018 12:17pm
      - kowtow
        
        It should.
        
        Otherwise their rights are not theirs ,they become someone else’s.
        
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        March 30, 2018 12:28pm
- Huevon
  
  “Non-male”.
  
  Wellington has become a leftist shithole.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:09am
  - Viking2
    
    And a highly paid one it seems. $160k x 11 to run Plunket from Wellington.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:15am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    That would be the leftist shit-hole with a $22,000 rainbow pedestrian crossing. FFS
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:52am
    - niggly
      
      Actually, double that figure – $40,200!
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/102643640/How-much-to-cross-the-road-Wellington-plans-40-000-pedestrian-crossing
      
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      March 30, 2018 12:03pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        No, no, no.
        Stuff got it wrong – first time for everything.
        There was a correction in yesterday’s Dom.
        Sorry it didn’t cost $40k, it was only $20k
        Whew. That’s … still bloody outrageous!
        
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        March 30, 2018 12:18pm
- Longknives
  
  I will try and find the link but David Byrne from Talking Heads was recently forced to apologise because he had no female session musicians on HIS new album!
  What the fuck?
  Are we going to be forced to burn our old Beatles,Stones and Led Zep Classics because they don’t meet the ‘Diversity Quota’??
  The World has gone fucking mad…
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/mar/06/david-byrne-apologises-for-not-collaborating-with-women-on-album-with-25-male-contributors
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:15am
  - VicParking
    
    Heaven help the Vienna Boys Choir.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:34am
    - namron
      
      And just as well the Beachboys, Beegees etc are no
      more. Can you imagine the Beachboys and Girls?
      
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      March 30, 2018 11:30am
      - hullkiwi
        
        At least they had the Mommas and the Pappas, and in good Swedish style, ABBA were 50/50 (leaving that for cheesy musicals).
        
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        March 30, 2018 12:31pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        The Beach People?
        Doesn’t sound right
        
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        March 30, 2018 2:22pm
  - wombatge
    
    Imagine the Rolling Stones, if you forced the fairer sex on Mick, she would have to have a face like a melted wellington boot, and she still wouldn’t be safe from Micks appendage.
    Wonder if he will break the Guinness book of records for oldest Daddy on Earth.
    
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    March 30, 2018 12:16pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      At least Queen would be ok.
      Bless you Freddy.
      
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      March 30, 2018 12:20pm
- Inandout
  
  I look forward to seeing female Imams in mosques, and females worshipping with males in the same building instead of being in separate rooms. Come on Moa girl, show your balls.
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:07am
  - kowtow
    
    It’s being tried , but is risky , for some strange reason.
    
    ‘The opening of a new mosque this month in Berlin further strained already-tense relations between Germany and Turkey, and has caused outrage in various corners of the Muslim world — even prompting religious authorities in Egypt to issue a decree condemning the mosque as un-Islamic.
    
    But despite recieving hundreds of death threats, the mosque’s founder, Seyran Ateş, says she’ll continue to fight for her cause.’
    
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/liberal-mosque-berlin-germany-ibn-rushd-goethe-seyran-ates-death-threats-turkey-egypt/
    
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    March 30, 2018 11:09am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  They need to innovate like Hawkwind did in the 1970’s with their female band member Stacia who was an artist/dancer
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:48am
  - Longknives
    
    The only footage I have seen where Stacia keeps her clothes on!
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yao_T2adl14
    
    Great song! With vocals by the legendary Ian Kilmister (Not long before Hawkwind turfed him out..)
    
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    March 30, 2018 12:44pm
All_on_Red

https://oig.justice.gov/press/2018/2018-03-28b.pdf
‘Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz announced today that, in response to requests from the Attorney General and Members of Congress, the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) will initiate a review that will examine the Justice Department’s and the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) compliance with legal requirements, and with applicable DOJ and FBI policies and procedures, in applications filed with the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) relating to a certain U.S. person. As part of this examination, the OIG also will review information that was known to the DOJ and the FBI at the time the applications were filed from or about an alleged FBI confidential source. Additionally, the OIG will review the DOJ’s and FBI’s relationship and communications with the alleged source as they relate to the FISC applications.’

Apparently a Grand Jury has already been impaneled andvthe IG and AG appointed an investigator last year.

More here;
Documents obtained by congressional investigators suggest possible coordination by Obama White House officials, the CIA and the FBI into the investigation into President Donald Trump’s campaign. Those senior Obama officials used unsubstantiated evidence to launch allegations in the media that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia during the run-up to the 2016 presidential election, according to newly discovered documents and communications obtained by Congress.’
https://saraacarter.com/new-documents-suggest-coordination-by-obama-white-house-cia-and-fbi-in-trump-investigation/
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March 30, 2018 8:44am
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red ,this tells us a lot about Sara A Carter ’s credentials .
  
  “Sara A. Carter is currently an investigative reporter and Fox News Contributor. Her stories can be found at saraacarter.com. She formerly worked as a senior national security correspondent for Circa News.”
  
  https://saraacarter.com/about/
  
  And here also ,
  
  https://everipedia.org/wiki/sara-carter-reporter/
  
  Now who would of thought ?
  
  Sigh !
  
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  March 30, 2018 1:11pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Stalker!
    How is she wrong?
    Off you go
    Hey, did you tell God today how often you looked at Stormy Daniels pictures?
    Oh, that’s right. He already knows doesn’t he Pervertboy
    
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    March 30, 2018 1:14pm
All_on_Red

Oops, not looking good for Mueller about how Flynn ended up being charged
‘In December, Judge Emmet G. Sullivan ordered Special Counsel Robert Mueller to provide Flynn’s attorneys with any and all information that may have been withheld from the case. Sullivan took over as the presiding judge after District of Columbia Judge Rudolph Contreras was recused from the case on Dec. 7. There was no explanation as to why Contreras, who presided over Flynn’s guilty plea on Dec. 3, was recused from the case. Flynn pled guilty to one count of lying to the FBI, despite testimony provided to Congress by former FBI Director James Comey, where he stated that the agents did not believe Flynn had lied about his conversation with former Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December 2016.

Sullivan ordered the government to produce any evidence in its possession that is “favorable to defendant and material either to defendant’s guilt or punishment.”
https://saraacarter.com/mueller-madness-special-counsel-hands-over-all-evidence-on-mike-flynn/

Contreras is the Judge who was friends with Strozk who was on Muellers team and who was subsequently removed from it. Looks like Strozk is in the crosshairs of the IG of the DOJ’s investigation
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March 30, 2018 8:52am
- stephieboy
  
  “Texts show judge who recused himself in Flynn case was friendly with FBI agent involved in probe”
  
  The messages were exchanged July 25, 2016, between Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page.
  
  “I can’t imagine either one of you could talk about anything in detail meaningful enough to warrant recusal,” Page said to Strzok in one text, making an apparent reference to Contreras.
  
  “Really?” Strzok replied. “ ‘Rudy, I’m in charge of espionage for the FBI.’ Any espionage [warrant request that] comes before him, what should he do? Given his friend oversees them?”
  
  It is unclear whether any concerns about Strzok or his relationship with Contreras were behind the recusal, and it is possible that Contreras stepped down from the case in an abundance of caution, to avoid even the appearance of a conflict.
  
  The texts, obtained by congressional investigators and shared with The Washington Post, also seem to show Strzok suggesting, perhaps in jest, meeting with Contreras at a cocktail party.
  
  Strzok noted in one exchange that a “social setting with others would probably be better than a one on one meeting.” The message’s context suggests he was referring to Contreras, but it is unclear how seriously he was contemplating the idea. A person familiar with the matter said such a meeting between Contreras and Strzok never happened…”
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/texts-show-judge-who-recused-himself-in-flynn-case-was-friendly-with-fbi-agent-involved-in-probe/2018/03/16/3b3736f2-293d-11e8-b79d-f3d931db7f68_story.html?utm_term=.f3368eba564a
  
  You and Sara Carter’s point ?
  
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  March 30, 2018 2:02pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Wow
    You are so dumb you don’t get it.
    Oh well
    That’s hardly a surprise.
    
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    March 30, 2018 6:02pm
cmm

Can the women who frequent these halls of virtue please explain two things I fail to understand:

1) What does Gayford do for the females? Does he blend your hormones? He doesn’t look that appealing to me (Ok, straight male, so what do I know), but he seems to have a 50 shades of Clark thing going on with some women.

2) Ed Sheeran: What is his appeal to the 12-to-15 year old girls? Transport yourselves back to that age. Would you or your school friends have thrown your knickers at him?

It all makes no sense to me.
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March 30, 2018 8:54am
- Longknives
  
  My wife thinks Gayford comes across as sleazy and shifty..
  My Labour-Voting friend thinks he is just ‘Sooo Gorgeous’ and always raves about how he is the perfect man ‘He is just going to be the best dad ever’ etc etc..
  Each to their own I suppose!
  
  Re Ed Sheeran- That one is a complete mystery. The guy isn’t exactly handsome- He comes across as corny and cheesy (the only thing I have ever agreed with Hayley Holt on) and his music is boring as batshit..
  Mind you- When I was a kid all the girls loved George Michael! Now George was a smooth looking dude but…
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:11am
  - starboard
    
    George enjoyed cock, that was his only problem. Shame really, I enjoyed his music.
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:19am
    - sooty
      
      It’s not only screaming 12 to 15 yr old girls that like Ed Sheeran, I can think of one Youth Adjacent 37 yr old that invited him home and cooked scones for him.
      
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      March 30, 2018 9:33am
      - alloytoo
        
        well, we’ve established her taste is…..
        
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        March 30, 2018 10:14am
    - stigie
      
      Darren Hughes can have his cake and eat it too, he enjoyed both starboard !~
      
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      March 30, 2018 9:43am
    - Inandout
      
      Classic scene that was.
      
      http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9zlc4
      
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      March 30, 2018 10:11am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Lk, I agree with your wife. She is obviously a very perceptive woman.
    Gayford gives me the creeps too. I’ve watched one or two of the interviews and his body language does not match what he says.
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:05am
    - Anne Glen Eden
      
      Same.
      
      Question 1: Response to Clark – EW! A shallow personality – riding Jacinda’s ‘unicorns and rainbows’ but icky substance lurking in the background. When she ceases to be PM, his true nature will show.
      
      Question 2: Who knows? Marketers are doing their jobs well. But the little image I’ve seen is more ‘healthy’, ‘down-to-earth’, ‘genuine’ and more acceptable to parents than most. That, of course, is why Jacinda wanted to be associated with him.
      
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      March 30, 2018 11:36am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        I’d rather teenaged girls screamed over Ed Sheeran that that drugged up nutcase Justine Bieber.
        
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        March 30, 2018 12:23pm
  - Paulus
    
    Is Gayford still on board ?
    Or has his sort of Mother in Law taken the reins going to live with CC leaving him on the loose again.
    
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    March 30, 2018 11:21am
  - RF
    
    Jethro reminds me of a stag during the “roar”. Gathering hinds into his domain to mate.
    
    When I was young and fit that was the ideal time to stalk and shoot them. The loud roar calling the hinds in was a giveaway.
    
    I wonder if our PMs neighbours have had to call in noise control..
    
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    March 30, 2018 12:35pm
- Colville
  
  cmm.
  WRT Ed and 15yr olds…. its just that he does easy to sing along to music…. they love that shit.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:13am
- lifesgood
  
  I’ve yet to meet any woman who thinks Gayboy is great or sexy or anything but a total sleaze. You need to get new friends.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:26am
- holysheet
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vv-BfVoq4g
  
  If you were a teenage girl and you saw this what else could you think but like him.
  This will be sung at the upcoming royal wedding.
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:01am
Longknives

Jesus give the Aussie Bashing a rest-

“Each one proving they were less than men by crying”
“How humiliating for them.”
“Cry babies.”

Off the top of my head I can recall at least three All Blacks who have burst into tears at Press Conferences…
One-Eyed NZ sports fans- The biggest hypocrites on the planet.
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March 30, 2018 9:01am
- G152
  
  The Aussies set them selves up for the bashing.
  No-one else…
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:16am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Aussie sportsmen have set the standard for merciless sledging over the years, especially the cricketers.
    Reap/Sow
    
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    March 30, 2018 12:28pm
- SPC
  
  It was the Australian public who wanted a mob lynching.
  
  It was probably more the embarrassment at being caught in the act and attempting a cover up – the image of the hand slipping something small and yellow into the trousers being seen around the world. Well it cannot be unseen.
  
  The media is just covering the reaction and the over the top punishments which are supposed to put this to rest.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:36am
- VicParking
  
  But not because they were advised by the their agents and media coaches that this would be the best approach to take to lessen the public perception of their actions. PS. You would cry to if you had Sandpapered balls.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:39am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Punters love flawrd celebs and repentant sinners (how else would American politicians and evangelists survive their incessant scandals)
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:55am
- MT_Tinman
  
  Off the top of my head I can recall at least three All Blacks who have burst into tears at Press Conferences…
  
  I can’t but I’d have thought they were whooses too if I had’ve witnessed it.
  
  If you’re going to be a big hard sportsman on the field you need to be a big hard sportsman off the field when you’ve been caught misbehaving.
  
  It would have been better for them to have told the gutter slime “fuck” and simply put out a press release apologising to the Ocker public.
  
  And to whoever suggested the punishment fitted the crime: Two of the current SA team have been prosecuted for tampering with the ball, one twice.
  
  Neither have lost a year, been fined $millions (in lost earnings as well as specific fines) or been pilloried by the slime like the three Ockers have.
  
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  March 30, 2018 11:19am
  - Longknives
    
    You don’t remember Richie McCaw blubbing after his ‘invincible’ side were blasted out of the RWC by France in ’07?
    And you don’t remember Keven Mealamu having a wee cry when those big meanies from the IRB were trying to punish him for his headbutt attack on Lewis Moody?
    And Norm Hewitt when he finally got held to account for his drunken rampages?
    I’m sure there will be more..
    
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    March 30, 2018 12:40pm
    - MT_Tinman
      
      You don’t remember Richie McCaw blubbing after his ‘invincible’ side were blasted out of the RWC by France in ’07?
      
      No.
      
      The other two were thugs so even if I had seen them sooking out I wouldn’t have cared.
      
      Of course I’m not an All Black fan but I expect far more from real sportsmen like cricketers.
      
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      March 30, 2018 3:45pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Yes, but the best cry baby press conference has to be Kim(my) Hughes standing down as captain of Australia in favour of Alan Border in the 1980s.
  
  The Aussies had got thumped at home in the Ashes series against England and Kimmy had to front up to the press. He did crying that well you were left with the impression he had shares in a paper tissue manufacturing business…
  
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  March 30, 2018 12:21pm
wiseowl

Skripals daughter is no longer in critical condition.
It will be interesting to see what eventuates if she pulls through.
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March 30, 2018 9:14am
- Viking2
  
  T May might end up looking a bit silly perhaps.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:19am
- VicParking
  
  “It was the bad Oysters we had for lunch”
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:41am
- tf78
  
  Maybe someone slipped her the antidote.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:59am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    When he was a spy, I wonder if he ever poisoned anyone, or what else he did as part of his job?
    
    He chose the life, if he was poisoned isn’t it a bit ‘live by the sword. die by the sword’?
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:22am
- MT_Tinman
  
  Skripals daughter is no longer in critical condition.
  
  Yesterday one slime column I read argued for her to be put down.
  
  The slime standard ain’t just a NZ thing.
  
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  March 30, 2018 11:22am
Viking2

Trump after Amazon.
About time too.

US President Donald Trump took another shot at Amazon.com Thursday, tweeting that the online retailer pays “little or no taxes” and that it uses the US Post Service as a “Delivery Boy.”

Trump’s frustrations with Amazon are no surprise. He has accused the company of not paying enough taxes before, and in December tweeted that the US post office should charge Amazon more for delivering packages.

His latest missive comes a day after Axios reported that Trump has wondered aloud if there was a way to “go after” Amazon with antitrust or competition law.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/102723707/us-president-donald-trump-goes-after-a-favorite-target-amazon
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March 30, 2018 9:21am
- SPC
  
  Going after the businesses of oligarchs whose media offend you is borrowed straight from Putin.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:31am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    But Trump will be gone in 3 or 7 years, unlike Putin. It is good that Democratically elected govt tries to limit powers and influence of oligarchs. One person one vote etc
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:58am
    - SPC
      
      Not the principle by whcih Trump ended net nuetrality.
      
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      March 30, 2018 10:16am
  - ross411
    
    A hollow statement, as you are attacking the messenger. Amazon doesn’t pay taxes. Yet, you claim they shouldn’t because.. Nope, you didn’t touch the actual reasoning, just shit and quit.
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:01am
    - SPC
      
      It probably pays more than Trump and Romney etc.
      
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      March 30, 2018 10:14am
  - Viking2
    
    Actually its about going after the corporations that steal from the state and then refuse to pay their taxes by using offshore bank accounts.
    
    Ever wonder why amazon has the money to spend that others don’t. Same for google and Facebook and others.
    
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    March 30, 2018 11:57am
Nookin

I am having difficulty understanding Cindy’s travel ban on diplomats expelled from other countries and what message she is trying to send to whom.

On the face of it, the ban purports to respect the countries whose diplomatic hospitality was abused by those expelled by engaging in nefarious activities, ie spying. The theory is that if the other countries don’t want them then we should respect that decision.
That, of course, is bullshit. They were expelled for no reason other than they were Russian diplomats and Russia is presently persona non grata in countries that frown upon alleged state orchestrated murder or attempts thereof.
Here are some theories about her possible messages:
1. I am out of my depth and have no idea what to do but I must do something.
2.Winston has painted us into a corner with Russia and its time to dust off the cover of Advanced Weasel Words for Slippery Politicians, 3rd Edition.
3. We do not believe Theresa May and until she publicises all her intelligence we will take the view that Russia is blameless.
4. Where the fuck were you when the Rainbow Warrior copped it?
5. Donald Trump is a sexist pig.

Where, by the way, did the notion that this is all about expelling spies come from? Is this a complete fabrication to deceive NZers into believing that while the other countries had good and valid reason to eject the odd Ivan or two, NZ has no such reason? Is that honest?

And talking about honesty, if the cabinet manual says that a minister cannot meet with an employee without the consent of the board or CEO, and Curran met with an employee without the consent of the board or CEO, how can that not be a breach of the cabinet manual?
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March 30, 2018 9:45am
- SPC
  
  Remember the GFC? Foreign banks were grouping likely bad debts amongst other assets they put up for sale as a package. To get rid of them, and then they used the funds raised to buy assets of other banks (who were also grouping their bad debts into a package of assets they were puting up for sale). Thus all were dealing with their emerging bad debts in the same way, merely swapping their own for those of other institutions. And thus none of them escaped the GFC.
  
  The Russians expelled from country a go to country b those expelled from country b go to country c, those from country c go to country d etc and etc.
  
  As we have expelled no diplomats we are not part of this game and thus are not taking any.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:53am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    But why would they want to come here now if they hadn’t before? Holiday?
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:36am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Warmer than Moscow?
      
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      March 30, 2018 12:54pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  I have no doubt that she thinks President Trump is a sexist pig. Before she became PM but was Leader she referred to the President of the United States as a professional arsehole.
  
  To a question about why voters should go for professional politicians like her who’d lived off the public purse – and what she made of the anti-politicians like Trump – she was refreshingly undiplomatic: “What – so you elect a professional arsehole, instead?”
  
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/08/01/40749/jacinda-vs-the-media-a-tale-in-two-acts
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:13am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    And dissed 60 odd million US voters at the same time.
    
    A bit brain-dead of Ms Ardern
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:36am
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Why has a generation given up on having children? … UK Telegraph … (register free to access if required)

Posted at https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/macro-afternoon-393/#comment-3078621 (note extensive comments on thread) … and … … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/nzs-housing-shortgage-worsens-despite-immigration-pullback-2/#comment-3078592 (behind paywall) … and… https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/4000_houses_in_29_hectares.html/comment-page-1#comment-2174431 (with extensive further posts up-thread)

Why has a generation given up on having children? … UK Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/family/has-generation-given-having-children/

… extract …

… “My wife and I are currently living with my parents while we try to save up for the deposit on a flat,” says Neil, a 38-year-old project manager, whose partner Vicky, a yoga therapist, is 37. “Yet since we got married last year, we’re being continually asked when we’re going to have kids. We’d be crazy to consider parenthood before we have our own place.”

Millennials earn £8000 less during their 20s than the previous generation, are at risk of being the first cadre of workers in modern times to see their lifetime earnings fall and can expect to spend more than £40,000 more on rent by the age of 30 than our parents, according to a study by the Resolution Foundation. UK buyers now need to save for an average of 24 years to get on the property ladder. Britain’s housing shortage is so acute that the average age for a first-time house buyer is 38 years-old, and that age is expected to rise to 41 by 2025, according to financial services firm London Victoria.

The lack of affordable housing has an increasingly far-reaching effect on our personal lives. One in five people under 45 surveyed by YouGov said they had experienced a delay finding a job because of the housing crisis, while 16 per cent said they had postponed getting married, and 22 per cent said they had put off having children because of their housing situation. … read more via hyperlink above …
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March 30, 2018 9:54am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The real problem is that the middle class is being over-taxed to provide for beneficiaries having children, and so can’t afford kids themselves. They are effectively competing with the state for limited resources like houses.
  
  Idiocracy was a documentary.
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:03am
  - SPC
    
    Half of income going on housing is not a tax issue.
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:12am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      No, it’s an Auckland/Big city issue. An issue that would evaporate if we stopped subsidising beneficiaries and others currently living in these locations. They would then move to cheaper towns
      
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      March 30, 2018 11:25am
- SPC
  
  Yup the children of middle class families want to own before they have children – since the Victorian era a middle class man has been virtually defined as one who has a home before he marries and the middle class woman lives with her family until a man with a home asks (which may ber the case agian as it is one way to hasten saving for working women).
  
  The longer it takes to get the education and pay for its cost, the longer it takes to save to buy a home. And with declining fertility (environmental) amongst men as another factor …
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:07am
  - DigNap15
    
    Its also caused by the dpb in two ways
    A girl can see having mulitple babies as a long term career, income and a free house.
    Every time a marriage or pardnership splits up that is two houses required not one.
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:34am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      There is also the issue of what a woman, who has bred for income, is going to do when her ovaries dry up, other than look after grandchildren under the same regime. The dole is a lot less than the DPB but the base costs are the same. That means that there has to be enough mokopuna to go around.
      
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      March 30, 2018 10:42am
  - wiseowl
    
    On the economy I recommend everyone read croaking cassandra .
    Mikes latest post spot on.
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:37am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Earlier UK reports …
      
      Ruling out greenbelt removes a key lever to resolving our housing crisis … Ryan Bourne … UK Telegraph
      (register free to read in full)
      
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/03/08/ruling-greenbelt-removes-key-lever-resolving-housing-crisis/
      
      • Ryan Bourne
      
      Politicians are gradually edging closer to acknowledging the true causes and consequences of Britain’s dysfunctional housing sector.
      
      Prime Minister Theresa May took the next step this week, setting out clearly the stakes. In 1997, the average home cost 3.5 times the average wage. By 2010, that ratio had more than doubled. Demographia’s annual Housing Affordability Survey, which calculates median house prices divided by median incomes by region, suggests a ratio of 8.5 in London, 6.8 in Cambridge, 6.4 in Oxford and 7 in Bournemouth. Price signals are screaming “build more homes” in these areas.
      
      Housing demand has risen due to higher incomes, population growth and fragmented family structures. But supply has not kept pace for decades. Differences in land use planning laws mean we build in the wrong places too. The economist Paul Cheshire has shown that “twice as many houses were built in Doncaster and Barnsley in the five years to 2013 than in Oxford and Cambridge” – a clear sign that supply is not functioning to meet demand. …
      
      … concluding …
      
      … Where housing is concerned, the weight of evidence suggests government is the problem and not the solution. If we stopped artificially constraining developable land where people actually want to live, and gave local authorities and residents the chance to face the financial trade-offs associated with development, supply would be much more responsive to demand.
      
      The intellectual debate on this is won. Eventually, our politicians will catch up.
      
      • Ryan Bourne holds the R Evan Scharf chair for the Public Understanding of Economics at Cato
      
      THE BRITISH HOUSING CRISIS & LIKELY POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES (REPEATING NEW ZEALAND’S RECENT ELECTION EXPERIENCE) …
      
      Tories fear middle-class millennials priced out of housing market could sink party at next election … UK Telegraph (behind paywall
      
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/16/millennials-middle-incomes-half-likely-homeowners-1990s/
      
      Young middle-class professionals are half as likely to get on the housing ladder as they were 20 years ago, a new study has found as Tory MPs warned that the issue is an “iceberg” that could sink the party at the next election.
      
      A report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies said that just one in four young middle-income families now owns their own home, down from two in three in the 1990s. read more via hyperlink above …
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      … and an important Reserve Bank paper out of Australia …
      
      Zoning regulations adding hundreds of thousands dollars to price of new houses: RBA – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
      
      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-08/zoning-regulations-adding-fortune-to-land-prices/9527882
      
      Fancy handing over an extra $500,000 for your brand new house just because government regulations restrict the supply of land for property
      
      No? Too bad, because that is the effective tax extracted for the average new house-and-land package in Sydney due to the impact of zoning regulations.
      
      It’s not just Sydney. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      March 30, 2018 1:23pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        AUCKLAND HOUSING … A LOOMING DENSITY DISASTER ? … …
        
        Posted at … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/4000_houses_in_29_hectares.html/comment-page-1#comment-2173515 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/links-28-march-2018/#comment-3077789 … with further posts on both threads …
        
        unaha-closp comments …
        
        ‘Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls.’
        
        No they won’t, that was an “election promise”. Has not been implemented, will not be implemented.
        
        Hugh Pavletich responds …
        
        Really ?
        
        December Interest Co NZ report …
        
        Speech from the throne pledges that Auckland’s urban limit will be removed and density controls will be freed up in this term of Government | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/90780/speech-throne-pledges-aucklands-urban-limit-will-be-removed-and-density-controls-will
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        Check PM Ardern / Housng Minister Twyford section … http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org
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        Google search ‘Auckland urban limits abolition’
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        Check Pavletich Message … Introduction Section … Demographia Survey and Media Release … http://www.demographia.com .
        
        It was surprising and indeed amusing how many Tories completely misread the winds of political change last September / October.
        
        My strong view is that the vast majority of them will again completely misjudge the looming market changes as well.
        
        Such is life.
        
        Slavery was never going to be abolished and the Corn Laws repealed … until they were of course !
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        4,000 houses in 29 hectares … Kiwiblog
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/4000_houses_in_29_hectares.html
        
        Mike Hosking writes:
        
        But back to this current deal. It’s 29 hectares and 4000 houses at under $600 grand a pop. Do the numbers. That’s 72 square metres per house, that’s the land content by the way not the size of the house, although I doubt many of the houses will be a lot bigger. 72 square metres of land per house, in a country where the quarter acre one reigned supreme, and these days 300 squares is seen as about as small as you’d want.
        
        Even if some of them are apartments, that is going to be mighty squashed. Matthew Hooton has done some calculations also:
        
        Twyford Bullshit by David Farrar on Scribd … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        … 3 Pavletich comments on thread … starting …
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/4000_houses_in_29_hectares.html/comment-page-1#comment-2173004
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        THE FAKE TORIES WILL AS USUAL CRY A LOT … BUT DO NOTHING ! …
        
        PM John Key on Housing Reform 2007 – YouTube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
        
        with Nick Smith March 2016 …
        
        Labour support on city limits welcomed | Nick Smith | Beehive.govt.nz
        
        https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/labour-support-city-limits-welcomed
        
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Let’s tackle poverty by making sure policies don’t hit poor in the pocket … Ryan Bourne … UK Telegraph
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/03/29/tackle-poverty-making-sure-policies-dont-hit-poor-pocket/
  
  … extract …
  
  … In all these sectors, government policies push prices structurally higher. Land use planning laws in the UK and around major US cities are a key driver of high house prices and rents. Childcare regulation such as stringent staff-child ratios and group size limits have been shown to raise prices, without improving child outcomes. Significant tariffs are imposed on food imports at an EU-level, and in the US sugar subsidies, milk marketing orders, and ethanol mandates make food more expensive.
  
  Highly regressive trade barriers on clothing and footwear likewise raise the costs of dressing ourselves, and especially hit poorer families. Energy policy is a mess of contradictions, particularly in regards to reducing carbon dioxide emissions, adding to bills beyond what could efficiently account for carbon emissions.
  
  Though all these policies were introduced for other reasons, they cumulatively cost the poor a great deal. Yet they are treated as issues outside the poverty debate. Rather than acknowledge their adverse impact, we endlessly argue about benefit levels, universal credit or the minimum wage, when undoing the damage they cause would prove more fruitful. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  March 30, 2018 6:48pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    For fuck’s sake Hugh, get your own blog.
    Oh, you have one?
    But nobody looks at it.
    So just fuck off.
    
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    March 30, 2018 8:11pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      ABC The Business 29 Mar 2018 On Mortgage Brokers
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrY3NUhYrXA
      
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      March 31, 2018 4:21am
Maggy Wassilieff

Russian Intelligence Agent Spotting Results

Turanganui-a-Kiwa Reconnaisance Survey 29/3/18
Negative/Nothing/Никто

No blonde temptresses, no overpowering Ciggy smells, no empty vodka bottles, no balalaikas at the Gizzy museum.

I’m beginning to think Comrade Jacinda and
вице-премьер Winston are correct.
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March 30, 2018 9:59am
- niggly
  
  Heh!
  
  Perhaps two gentlemen called Winston and Shane have taken some of them with them to do a spot of fishing up North over the next few days?
  
  Maybe the “cultural engagement officers” could pay the charter boat hire (and bring along a crate of top shelf vodka), which the boat hire company pays their overheads with and has a few dozen wads left over for political party donations …. boom boom!
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:41am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Time to sacrifice a few virgins to Poseidon and pray for an act of God. Anyone know where I can get some unmolested goats?
    
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    March 30, 2018 11:31am
- Rachael Membery
  
  No Russian ships in port?
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:44am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Na..
    Just logs for China
    & Squash for Busan this week.
    
    I don’t s’pose the Russian submarines off the coast count….tho’ we will be patrolling Kaiti Beach just in case a spetsnazovet comes ashore.
    
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    March 30, 2018 11:20am
  - Paulus
    
    But I thought I read very recently that two Russian Warships are due to berth in Auckland sometime this month.
    Will Cindy be there in all her glory to wave them in?
    Or was it a spoof ?
    
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    March 30, 2018 11:26am
    - niggly
      
      They’d be lucky to get this far without breaking down – good thing they have tugboats accompanying their fleets!
      
      In response, the Kremlin sent in Kuznetsov. The aging carrier — much smaller than Bush — carried a dozen or so Sukhoi fighters. Her six escorts included just a single heavily-armed vessel, the Soviet-vintage nuclear cruiser Pyotr Velikiy. The other five ships included one small amphibious landing ship plus three support tankers and a tugboat.
      
      The tugboat was along for a good reason. On the few occasions when Kuznetsov leaves port, she often promptly breaks down. In 2009, a short circuit sparked a fire that killed one seaman aboard the rusting vessel.
      http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/05/27/russias-navy-more-rust-than-ready/
      
      (Anyhoo think it was a spoof! Pity, as it would have given the USN and RAN subs something to practice attacking)!
      
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      March 30, 2018 12:14pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  As we have the odd Russian oligarch building luxury retreats in NZ, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were being surveilled or even other sites being scoped ;).
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:45am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Maggy, google has not been my friend ;), should my cabbage tree be flowering again now?
  
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  March 30, 2018 11:07am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Not really.
    Cabbage trees are spring-early summer flowering.
    
    However,
    1. Is it the entire plant in flower – or just one branch spike?
    2. Is it the ordinary cabbage tree? – or a horticultural hybrid/purple cultivar?
    
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    March 30, 2018 11:41am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Yes everything that bloomed earlier have re-flowered, the birds are loving it, it is an old tree, I have owned the property where it is since 1999 and it was well established then.
      
      Thanks
      
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      March 30, 2018 1:14pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The cabbage trees should be producing ripe fruit now…and that will be keeping a number of bird species happy.
        
        I’ve located a paper from Botany Div. scientists that documents double flowering in some of the cabbage trees they were growing.
        https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/0028825X.2006.9513003
        
        Perhaps the long warm summer has re-triggered flowering….in a plant with plentiful energy supply.
        
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        March 30, 2018 1:56pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Thanks Maggy there have definitely been flowers they have just finished. Interesting that it is a known phenomenon, growing pretty much in sand that went under water a lot in January and February and which decimated the worms.
        
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        March 30, 2018 2:50pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Rachael Membery
        
        Cabbage trees should withstand a decent drowning…and that could explain the 2nd flowering…the warm temperatures and abundant water would have allowed for the formation and expansion of the flowering spikes.
        
        However, some plants do a last gasp of putting all their energy (sugars) into reproductive effort when they are on their last legs….. Watch to see whether it puts out new shoots later in the year… or starts to die off.
        
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        March 30, 2018 2:59pm
    - stephieboy
      
      MW, please in future refer to its Maori and proper name ,
      
      Tī Kōuka – The Cabbage Tree
      
      https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/ti-kouka-the-cabbage-tree/
      
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      March 30, 2018 1:42pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Why?
        
        My mission is to communicate information clearly to the person who requested it.
        
        Rachael used the epithet cabbage tree – I figured I knew what she meant; but, to check, I asked her if it could have been a hybrid – i.e. Cordyline australis x C. banksii…. or another species (not the “ordinary” one).
        
        She could have been referring to:
        Cordyline indivisa
        Cordyline banksii
        or even the common Asian – Pacific Island cabbage tree –Cordyline terminalis/ fruticosa
        
        She might also have been referring to one of the African Cabbage trees – Cussonia species.
        (I have a 3 year-old Cussonia in my front garden – it hasn’t flowered yet).
        
        Normally, when someone communicates to me in English, I reply in English.
        
        If I am preparing material for a wide (International) readership, then I will use Maori, Common and Latin epithets —– as I did here:
        https://teara.govt.nz/en/horticultural-use-of-native-plants/page-1
        
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        March 30, 2018 2:29pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Wow. Such an arsehole!
        
        Do you have any sense of self awareness?
        
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        March 30, 2018 2:32pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        Never mind budgie brain. Just shove a bag of frozen peas down your Y fronts. Yet again.
        
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        March 30, 2018 3:03pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  I know a very beautiful Russian Underwear agent. Does that count?
  
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  March 30, 2018 12:11pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I checked under my bed and found copious powder-like substance and a couple of dead cockroaches, but no Ivans. Must have been a nerve agent because after that I needed a sit down and a cup of tea.
  
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  March 30, 2018 12:37pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Why have Russians under your bed when you could keep warm & cosy with them in your bed?
    
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    March 30, 2018 1:28pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Oh Maggy, you such a naughty girl!
      
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      March 30, 2018 3:08pm
sooty

Secret Cindy only needs to hang on to power for a couple of weeks with no shit and she’s out of here. She’ just looking for an opening, to leave on a high. But all her idiots, just will not play nicely. You wont see her before parliament opens next year and then on a backbench. Job for life, to pay the mortgage and keep Gaylord in the life he has become acustomed to, just no limo. She ain’t going to back away from the trough in a hurry.
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March 30, 2018 9:59am
- Inandout
  
  Even as a BB she will get a decent income, and any overhang from being PM for a while. I think she has more problems at home to be honest.
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:16am
- Paulus
  
  Backbench not nearly enough to pay two mortgages on est $3.5 million houses.
  Or is she renting the little one to family rellies and paying tax on the income of course.
  Hope she does look to see if she is being overpaid.
  
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  March 30, 2018 11:30am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  She’s hardly a great advert right now for Wimmin can do it all. Most women look wonderful when they’re pregnant, Ardern looks almost skeletal and very unhealthy. Not a good role model at all.
  
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  March 30, 2018 12:45pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Shaun the Sheep , what about your , I understand , corpulent waistline ?
    
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    March 30, 2018 12:50pm
    - lifesgood
      
      You put up religious hymns and poems and crow about going to church but you are down right nasty. That is not the way of Jesus. You need to sit down and think for a bit SB.
      
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      March 30, 2018 1:41pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      You understand very little SB but sqwark about much.
      
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      March 30, 2018 2:54pm
Suze Wainwright

Do you reckon the National Party should re-run its tv ad with the sleek rowing boat coasting past the struggling 3-headed dinghy, as a community service announcement right now?
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March 30, 2018 10:23am
- Rachael Membery
  
  More like the Dancing Cossacks.
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:47am
DifferentPerspective

Lying by omission SSC?

Isn’t this a bit of a truth-adjacent? Did Clare Curran do the comms on this announcement about the investigation into MBIE using private investigators?

On 16 March, State Services Commissioner Peter Hughes announced the terms of reference and appointed Deputy State Services Commissioner Doug Martin to conduct the investigation.

This is the guy doing the investigation Doug Martin, Director of MartinJenkins – onmi-present Wellington public sector consultants. And assuredly a good (old, white, male) person to do the job.

Admittedly, in the early 1990s Doug Martin was the Deputy State Services Commissioner, but to suggest that a quarter of a century later he is a current Deputy Commissioner is, well, odd.

It would be like referring to the PM as the “fish and chip girl”, or the DPM as bright young star of the National party. Sir Paul Reeves, Governor General. Steve Smith, respected Australian cricket captain.
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March 30, 2018 10:33am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I agree this is an odd press release.
  
  In Stuff, it’s clear that it is a former deputy State Services Commissioner that has been appointed to head the investigation into Government Departments use of Thompson & Clarke.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/102336698/doug-martin-to-lead-investigation-into-southern-responses-use-of-private-investigator
  
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  March 30, 2018 12:26pm
jcuk

I caught up with a BBC doco about London’s sewerage problems of mid 1800’s which reminded me of a 70yo{?] film from Ealing Studios which had a bunch of kids hiding from the baddies in a London sewer.
One of them says the immortal words …
“Cor what a pong” 🙂
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March 30, 2018 11:19am
KiWombat

Hong Kong is waking up to a beautiful view today – two Cunard liners coming in to town at sunrise, Queen Elizabeth from northern end and Queen Mary from south !
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March 30, 2018 11:27am
- KiWombat
  
  Here’s the view from QE’s webcam mounted on the bridge
  http://www.seascanner.com/ships-position-queen-elizabeth
  
  (scroll down page)
  
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  March 30, 2018 12:59pm
Hugh Pavletich

Hillary Clinton Suffers 90% Cut In Speech Fee | Zero Hedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-29/hillary-clinton-suffers-90-cut-speech-fee

After embarrassing herself and creating yet another obstacle for Congressional Democrats to overcome later this year during a disastrous trip to India earlier this month, Hillary Clinton is taking a massive 90% cut to her typical speaking fee for an engagement at one of New Jersey’s most prestigious universities.

And no – it’s not Princeton. … read more via hyperlink above …
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March 30, 2018 11:45am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … and now something more refreshing and uplifting … the great British boxer Chris Eubank’s rendition of Rudyard Kipling’s ‘If’ …
  
  IF by Rudyard Kipling | An inspiring recital by Chris Eubank Senior … Youtube
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0WqSdhLPPY
  
  Chris Eubank – Wikipedia
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Eubank
  
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  March 30, 2018 12:04pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    … and now something more refreshing and uplifting …
    
    I wouldn’t describe a Hugh comment as “refreshing” or “uplifting”!
    
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    March 30, 2018 9:42pm
- Harkman
  
  Hey Hugh I actually gave you a ?
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:50pm
hullkiwi

From the pages of why the f**k do people do this to themselves.

The following video link was posted this morning on the Warkworth Travel FB page.

It shows the queue of cars between on the northern motorway heading north, queued back from the tunnel to the bridge over the motorway. a distance of nearly 3km.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WarkworthAndDistrictsTrafficUpdates/videos/

Looking at this you are left thinking, do people never plan their journeys? and to all the anti-northern motorway trolls out their -go take your anti-roading message somewhere else. Northland needs proper highway links.
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March 30, 2018 12:11pm
- peterwn
  
  More potential coalition tension. NZF will want the roads, Greens won’t and Grant has an out of control budget to contend with.
  
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  March 30, 2018 1:18pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Yep and Twitford can’t get priorities right.
    
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    March 30, 2018 2:24pm
  - DigNap15
    
    We need the roads of National Significance. Especially the one I know about that of Tauranga to Katikati bypass.
    It is a killer road, as it is so narrow, so few passing lanes, so many intersections, and its very busy. Not only that but its berms are very narrow or non-existant
    
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    March 30, 2018 6:10pm
RF

I happened to see the commie chic standing with the Maori truck driver / King on TV last night.

With all her dosh pouring into her personal coffers you would think she could afford some decent footwear.

Last night she was wearing her other pair of boots.

Not the strap ones… this time the scruffy low ones.

It will be interesting to see what she wears when she greets Liz. If I remember Clark wore trousers so we could see Cindy in a mini skirt or hot pants.

My arse has more class.
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March 30, 2018 12:52pm
- Longknives
  
  Now that those bloody shoes have been brought to my attention it’s all I notice! They are fucking dreadful..
  Christ can’t the Labour Party afford Image Consultants or Fashion Advisors? (They seem happy to spend our taxpayer cash on everything else under the sun)
  
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  March 30, 2018 1:15pm
- KiWombat
  
  I have the body of a god… Buddha !
  
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  March 30, 2018 1:21pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Cindy does love a photo opportunity. Smile, smile, wave, smile, wave…
  Lovely.
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  March 30, 2018 2:59pm
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    Don’t have to answer questions, when smiling and waving.
    
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    March 30, 2018 3:46pm
stephieboy

This hymn sung at our Good Friday Service says a lot about the this special holy day .

Good Friday

Mass of there Pre- sanctified and veneration of the cross.

Hymn – “Sing My Tongue the Glorious Battle”

1 Sing, my tongue, the glorious battle;
sing the ending of the fray.
Now above the cross, the trophy,
sound the loud triumphant lay:
tell how Christ, the world’s Redeemer,
as a victim won the day.

2 Tell how, when at length the fullness
of th’appointed time was come,
He, the Word, was born of woman,
left for us His Father’s home,
blazed the path of true obedience,
shone as light amidst the gloom.

3 Thus, with thirty years accomplished,
He went forth from Nazareth,
destined, dedicated, willing,
did His work, and met His death;
like a lamb He humbly yielded
on the cross His dying breath.

4 Faithful cross, true sign of triumph,
be for all the noblest tree;
none in foliage, none in blossom,
none in fruit your equal be;
symbol of the world’s redemption,
for the weight that hung on thee!

5 Unto God be praise and glory:
to the Father and the Son,
to th’eternal Spirit honor
now and evermore be done;
praise and glory in the highest,
while the timeless ages run.

Author: Venantius Honorius Clementianus Fortunatus; c 530AD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WZRw26l7fA

A solemn yet dignified and glorious service
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March 30, 2018 12:59pm
- Longknives
  
  I don’t know what this version of Stephieboy’s game is (I note he can spell and use punctuation unlike some of the others) but please sod off..
  
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  March 30, 2018 1:11pm
  - stigie
    
    “but please sod off..”
    
    The goats want the same thing but have trouble communicating !~
    
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    March 30, 2018 1:39pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Aww cmon says it succinctly here
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/general_debate_30_march_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2174518
  
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  March 30, 2018 1:17pm
- KiWombat
  
  You’re beginning to sound more and more like hugh SB – I had thought you had been beaten around the head with the manifesto, but today it is looking more like it may have been a bible !
  
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  March 30, 2018 1:27pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Stephieboy:
  
  This hymn sung at our Good Friday Service
  
  Were you given any “special duties” today? And any update on your ongoing investigation into the mysterious notice on the church door?
  
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  March 30, 2018 7:33pm
Longknives

This is weird-

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/two-mums-six-children-feared-12270159

Two hardcore activist Lesbians and their six adopted black kids are all presumed dead.
These self professed ‘Social Justice Warriors’ were heavily involved in the revolting Black Lives Matter ‘All Police are Murderers’ movement.

In the end it seems it wasn’t the Police those poor kids had to worry about..

*As an aside- This story has pretty much been buried by MSM. Can you imagine the furore if these Women had been from the ‘Alt Right’??
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March 30, 2018 2:24pm
- fernglas
  
  Reading the article, it says the Police have no reason to believe it was an intentional act. So your point is?
  
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  March 30, 2018 4:56pm
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    Read it again Miss Marple! Have a think about it- Then get back to me..
    
    “He said the cause of the crash remains unknown but officials are investigating whether or not the car was deliberately driven over the edge. Jennifer was behind the wheel at the time.
    
    “I was at the scene two days ago, and I can tell you it was a very confusing scene, because there were no skid marks,” Mr Allman said.
    
    “There were no brake marks. There was no indication of why this vehicle traversed approximately over 75 feet of a dirt pullout and went into the Pacific Ocean.”
    
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    March 30, 2018 6:17pm
Hugh Pavletich

IRD releases ‘ring-fencing’ paper; Revenue Minister encourages feedback on proposal to ensure investors can’t offset losses on property investments against other income | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/92896/ird-releases-ring-fencing-paper-revenue-minister-encourages-feedback-proposal-ensure

By David Hargreaves

The Government’s progressing its plans to ‘ring-fence’ investors’ losses on residential properties as it continues its push against property speculation.

An Issues Paper has been released by the Inland Revenue Department on the proposal to change the rules in what the Government says is “an effort to level the playing field between speculators and investors – and home buyers”. … read more via hyperlink above …
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David Hargreaves says while the move to ring-fence’ investors’ losses on rental properties for tax purposes appears logical we must be cautious about assuming that all the consequences will be good ones | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/92907/david-hargreaves-says-while-move-ring-fence-investors-losses-rental-properties-tax

By David Hargreaves

If something seems like a good idea, it should always be tried.

We shouldn’t, however, prejudge and just assume because something seems a good idea it will prove to be so when applied. Human nature when combined with the rule of unintended consequences can often contrive to produce unexpected results from things that seemed as if they would be a sure fire winner … read more via hyperlink above …
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March 30, 2018 2:40pm
Manolo

Weeds are hard to kill:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/29/hillary-clinton-sports-arm-cast-at-rutgers-speech/

Hillary Clinton, plagued by rumors of poor health during her presidential campaign, showed up for a Thursday speech at Rutgers University with a cast on her arm.
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March 30, 2018 4:34pm
- Longknives
  
  Ted Bundy used to use the old ‘Cast on the Arm’ trick as well…
  
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  March 30, 2018 6:18pm
- Fletch
  
  Not surprising. She was always falling over.
  
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  March 30, 2018 6:52pm
Komata

Manolo

Re: ‘…With a cast on her arm’.

Of thousands; or only those that she has bribed or has something over?

(One has to ask these questions).
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March 30, 2018 4:57pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  She’s unlucky..
  Fractured elbow after a fall – 2009
  https://nypost.com/2016/10/19/hillary-clintons-security-detail-laughed-when-she-broke-her-elbow/
  Broken toe – 2017- after a fall down stairs
  http://footwearnews.com/2017/fashion/celebrity-style/hillary-clinton-falls-again-foot-broken-toe-445492/
  Broken wrist – 2018 – fell while getting out of a bath
  
  Some other falls:
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/fb-5493739/List-Hillary-Clintons-trips-falls-public.html
  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/03/16/hillary-clinton-india-injury/431613002/
  
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  March 30, 2018 5:14pm
  - sooty
    
    Someones tripping her up or she gets pissed.
    
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    March 30, 2018 7:55pm
DigNap15

If Labour built a few more roads of National Significance, instead of cycleways in the city, people might be abler to go on holiday a bit easier.
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March 30, 2018 5:22pm
DigNap15

I see Business Confidence has fallen once again.
Wait till the minimum wage rises, youth rates, unions, strikes etc kick in. anti investment rules.
Then watch it plummet.
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March 30, 2018 5:57pm
- Viking2
  
  Well there is always opportunity. don’t let it get you down. Look at it and see how you can benefit from it all.
  
  As long a Sir John keeps those planes full of tourists we will be ok. If that stops then we are in trouble.
  
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  March 30, 2018 6:28pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Tourists already find our food and drink to be very dear!
    
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    March 30, 2018 7:05pm
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      The rest of their stay is bloody cheap.
      
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      March 30, 2018 8:25pm
Viking2

I see the Parker fight is on Sunday morning. Certain churches have a problem. yep it is right in their Prime Time.
So, to collect they need big screens or they have to change their scalping hours.

Nothing is ever easy. 😆
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March 30, 2018 6:31pm
Viking2

I see that Keith Murdoch has died.
Keith Murdoch, famously known as the only All Black to be sent home from a tour for indiscipline, died on Friday aged 74.

His sister confirmed the news of his death to Newshub, while his former Dunedin club, Zingari-Richmond, flew their flag at half mast on Good Friday to acknowledge his passing.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/102735587/controversial-former-all-blacks-prop-keith-murdoch-has-died
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March 30, 2018 6:32pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I remember when my father named his cat ‘Murdoch’ because of its attitude.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:18pm
- wiseowl
  
  RIP Keith
  One night I was drinking after hours in a pub in Central Otago .
  The publican introduced me to this guy Keith and I thought …….I know this guy.
  A huge hand to shake but a very quiet nice guy.
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:22pm
  - Jack5
    
    I thought TV or radio were saying Murdoch never returned to NZ.
    
    The ignominy heaped on Murdoch was way out of proportion.
    
    We have foreign rapists and murderers who are allowed to stay in the country, while this footballer was forced into exile for his tough reputation and for thumping a security guard.
    
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    March 30, 2018 10:00pm
big bruv

“Zingari-Richmond, flew their flag at half mast on Good Friday to acknowledge his passing.”

Once again proving that being a thug is prized above all else in the rugby community.
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March 30, 2018 6:51pm
- Jack5
  
  What do you think of boxing, then, Big Bruv?
  
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  March 30, 2018 10:01pm
Fletch

Anyone see the new episode of the new Roseanne series? I never used to watch it, but this is interesting for the fact that Roseanne is portrayed as a Trump voter and Jackie, her sister, is a pussy-hat wearing Hillary supporter. It’s all very topical and the ratings are HUGE.
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March 30, 2018 6:55pm
MH

big bruv of waiatarua should be ashamed. I was hoping Sir Keith (RIP) would be the opening fight for Joshua and Parker – vs some old Welsh git.
A playing member of Ponsonby Rugby Club as well.
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March 30, 2018 7:01pm
rightoverlabour

I was reading stuff and came across this. Brilliant.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/102724845/property-tax-plan-promises-huge-rise-in-cost-of-providing-rentals-landlords-say

Riding a Dead Horse

The tribal wisdom of the Dakota Indians, passed on from generation to generation, says that when you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.

In modern education and government, however, a whole range of far more advanced strategies are often employed, such as:

1. Buying a stronger whip.

2. Changing riders.

3. Threatening the horse with termination.

4. Appointing a committee to study the horse.

5. Visiting other sites to see how others ride dead horses.

6. Lowering the standards so that dead horses can be included.

7. Re-classifying the dead horse as “living, impaired”.

8. Hiring outside contractors to ride the dead horse.

9. Harnessing several dead horses together to increase the speed.

10. Attempting to mount multiple dead horses in hopes that one of them will spring to life.

11. Providing additional funding and/or training to increase the dead horse’s performance.

12. Doing a productivity study to see if lighter riders would improve the dead horse’s performance.

13. Declaring that as the dead horse does not have to be fed, it is less costly, carries lower overhead, and therefore contributes substantially more to the bottom line of the economy than do some other horses.

14. Re-writing the expected performance requirements for all horses.

15. Promoting the dead horse to a supervisory position.
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March 30, 2018 7:29pm
- niggly
  
  16. Once MSM report the horse is dead, do not acknowledge that instead call for the need to have a conversation.
  
  17. Once MSM finally figure out that no conversation was ever held, do not acknowledge that instead call for the need to have a working group consider matters.
  
  18. Once MSM finally figure out that no working group was ever formed, do not acknowledge that instead call for the need to bring in an “independent expert” to provide advice on reviewing processes and procedures.
  
  19. Once MSM finally figure out that no independent expert was brought in, do not acknowledge that instead advise that now that 3 months has elapsed it’s time to take maternity leave and any matters are now to be handled by the incoming DPM promoted to Acting PM, once all full briefings have occurred after hand-over.
  
  20. Once MSM finally asks whether these briefings have concluded, new Acting PM declares any questions that are unrelated to his actions (from here on now) are “mischief” and an “Opposition beat-up”, and “will not be commenting further on hearsay”!
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:45pm
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    And we are all none the fucking wiser !~
    
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    March 30, 2018 8:54pm
    - niggly
      
      Exactly! That’s what a Bachelor’s study in Public Relations is perfect for – spinning the message to the public and they don’t even realise they’ve been had!
      
      Plus every now and then, chuck out: “Oh look the latest Women’s Weekly / Vogue issue is out – what a spread – check it out” etc! 😉
      
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      March 30, 2018 9:04pm
RF

When you think about the commie chick unsuccessfully looking for Soviet spy’s you have to remember she is a bloody communist so she will not be biting the hand that feeds her.

She must be over the moon with excitement knowing that right under our noses the Russian Embassy is a safe house.

The obnoxious Short arse half pint Peters is also a red under the bed.
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March 30, 2018 7:32pm
- MH
  
  NO SUTCH luck
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:14pm
Nostradamus

Calling EAD!

Jesus wasn’t white: he was a brown-skinned, Middle Eastern Jew. Here’s why that matters

I grew up in a Christian home, where a photo of Jesus hung on my bedroom wall. I still have it. It is schmaltzy and rather tacky in that 1970s kind of way, but as a little girl I loved it. In this picture, Jesus looks kind and gentle, he gazes down at me lovingly. He is also light-haired, blue-eyed, and very white.

The problem is, Jesus was not white.

You’d be forgiven for thinking otherwise if you’ve ever entered a Western church or visited an art gallery. But while there is no physical description of him in the Bible, there is also no doubt that the historical Jesus, the man who was executed by the Roman State in the first century CE, was a brown-skinned, Middle Eastern Jew.

This is not controversial from a scholarly point of view, but somehow it is a forgotten detail for many of the millions of Christians who will gather to celebrate Easter this week.

What are we to make of this? 🙂
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March 30, 2018 7:57pm
- MH
  
  well a repaint on the Cistern Chapel will be a starters and more diversity in the bunny range of chocolates.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:16pm
- Viking2
  
  All the catholic ones are white. This will get the God botherers up set.
  
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  March 30, 2018 8:28pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    MH:
    
    the bunny range of chocolates
    
    Viking2:
    
    All the catholic ones are white.
    
    I didn’t realise there was Catholic range of white chocolate! Tell us more?
    
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    March 30, 2018 8:31pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Mmmmm milky bar bunnies ?
      
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      March 30, 2018 8:46pm
      - stigie
        
        No wonder im getting fat Awww..?
        
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        March 30, 2018 8:58pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Calories in Calories out Stigie
        
        Got to do the Mahi to earn the treats
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:02pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Awww C-mon:
        
        Calories in Calories out … the Mahi
        
        Do you mean “the math”? Or have you gone all PC on us old chap?
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:05pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Too much time with the young fellas at footy Nostra.
        
        Do the mahi, earn the treats is a bit of team motto this year
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:08pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Not to be confused with this Mahi: the Music and Arts Healing Institute!
        
        Hey there Creative Greatness! Yes…I’m talking about YOU! I am soo elated that you decided to stop by and visit The M.A.H.I. site!
        
        Just clarifying, from my reading, this website doesn’t appear to offer penis enlargement! (Sorry Johnboy)
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:11pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        How did penis enlargement enter this discourse???
        
        Edit: ahhh Johnboy, no explanation needed
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:13pm
      - stigie
        
        No wonder Dad is scared of you Awww, 120kgs of pure muscle..?
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:14pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        There’s always scope for misinterpreting “eating chocolate”, “treats” and “Creative Greatness”!
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:14pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Stigie you gotta stop talking me up, the ego is bad enough already!
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:18pm
      - stigie
        
        When you’re confronting Dad’ it pays to have an ego otherwise he wants everyone to meet him face to face. (preferably Hagley Park).
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:23pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        Awww C-mon and Dad had a virtual meeting on Kiwiblog. It didn’t end well!
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:28pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        It’s not the face to face that worries me, with Dad and Hagley I doubt face to face is even on the agenda ?
        
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        March 30, 2018 9:29pm
- Jack5
  
  Don’t worry about Jesus’s skin colour, what shape was his nose?
  
  This is from Wikipedia:
  
  More recent artistic and cinematic portrayals have also made an effort to characterize Jesus as an ancient Middle Eastern resident. In the 2004 movie, The Passion of the Christ, Jesus was portrayed by Jim Caviezel who wore a prosthetic nose during filming and had his blue eyes digitally changed to brown to give him a more Middle Eastern appearance. According to designer Miles Teves, who created the prosthesis: “Mel (Gibson) wanted to make the actor playing Jesus, James Caviezel, look more ethnically Middle Eastern, and it was decided that we could do it best by changing the shape of his nose.”
  
  Nose shapes, like skin colour, likely evolve to suit climate:
  
  https://www.popsci.com/climate-nose-shape-evolution
  
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  March 30, 2018 9:00pm
nasska

I don’t think feminists should be allowed to work as midwives.

“Congratulations! It’s a potential rapist!”
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March 30, 2018 8:21pm
Manolo

The Argentinian socialist is in trouble:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/30/vatican-scrambles-to-clarify-popes-denial-that-hell-exists

The Vatican has scrambled to clarify comments made by Pope Francis to a well-known Italian journalist that appeared to deny the existence of hell.

The Holy See issued a terse statement saying a lengthy article published in La Repubblica on Wednesday by Eugenio Scalfari, 93, the newspaper’s founder, was “the fruit of his reconstruction” and not “a faithful transcription of the Holy Father’s words”.
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