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March 29, 2018 8:00am
- Nostradamus
  
  Is that “Q” for queer, Starboard? Most unexpected from you, old chap 🙂
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:07am
  - starboard
    
    It was going to start off ” question” however I dropped my phone and then it all turned to shit ?
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:10am
    - oldgolfer
      
      Sounds like the CoL.
      
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      March 29, 2018 8:22am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Unlike WoO who will place a letter in the comments post a single letter, to later edit, after endless page refreshes to ensure he is first to comment on the day thereby pooing all over the informed, pertinent and challenging content that usually pervades GD
      
      Unfortunately, WoO most likely does not have the excuse of dropping his phone but still manages the shit part of the equation.
      
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      March 29, 2018 8:41am
    - Kimbo
      
      See, if you had said, “I wanted to start a discussion about New Testament textual criticism by using “Q” the abbreviation for Quelle (German: “Source”), the collection of written sayings of Jesus that the writers of the Gospels of Matthew and Luke used in addition to and independent of Mark’s Gospel”
      
      …I would have believed you. ?
      
      Incidentally, it was one of the big disappointments for me in Christopher Hitchens’ sometimes very challenging, “god is not great”, that his criticisms concerning the veracity of the New Testament and its composition are so poor, as evidenced by his lack of knowledge when he described “Q” as a “Gospel”. No it wasn’t, more likely a collection of otherwise unrelated oral traditions surrounding Jesus that were later written down in a loose collection to preserve them for those who had not witnessed the Ministry of Jesus. (so likely sometime near the end of the first generation of the Church, c50AD), and then utilised by Matthew and Luke (if they were indeed the authors of the two Gospels).
      
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      March 29, 2018 10:08am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Kimbo, probably later as these are not the Jerusalem “church” under James (which the letters of James are perhaps the sole surviving texts) but the Pauline “church” that dominated after the execution of James in 62CE (or 69CE, sources are a little unclear). Though it is of course possible that it (Q) dates early but the interpretation is late.
        
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        March 29, 2018 10:37am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Ed Snack
        
        Maybe, but that maybe presupposes the James vs Paul tension in the early church that ain’t necessarily so. But even if there were, Q seems to have no unifying theological or pastoral theme, much less a polemical purpose. Instead it is a rag bag of loose and random sayings, which Matthew and Luke independently select, polish and use in accordance with their proclamation purposes. That’s the classical “two source” theory (the other source being Mark) for the order and composition of the three Synoptic Gospels.
        
        However, it ldoes make a lot of sense that the crisis of the destruction of Jerusalem around 70AD, and the resulting imminent scattering of the original eye witnesses of Jesus’ ministry, prompted someone to collect and write down the oral traditions that had been preserved to that point.
        
        Mind you, we do know from the Acts of the Apostles that Luke was with Paul during his imprisonment in Judaea from 60 to 62, and it’s likely that’s when Luke begins to search out the sources that he later used in his Gospel, so it’s not impossible Q existed at that time.
        
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        March 29, 2018 2:44pm
    - Biscuit
      
      Starboard, don’t fret about the ‘Q’ post.
      
      There are some in here who wish that folk like Penny and High could be so succinct!
      
      You made more sense with one phone drop than either of that duo has in my several years in here!
      
      A safe, peaceful Easter break to you!
      
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      March 29, 2018 11:25am
Paulus Gnome

“we don’t have Russian undeclared intelligence officers here”.

Right up there with ‘I can see Russia from my house’

(not strictly what was said by Palin but like the ersatz government, why let the facts get in the way of the truth or forming a committee)
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March 29, 2018 8:01am
- AgainstTheFlow
  
  The real reason NZ is not expelling any Russian spies is because Winston wants to win back the money he lost to them playing poker.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:21am
  - mandk
    
    I heard it was because the Ruskies keep him supplied wit some rather fine vodka 😉
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:26am
    - pdm
      
      I thought Winston was a whisky man – or does it not matter if it is free.
      
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      March 29, 2018 10:18am
      - KiWombat
        
        I’m convinced that Auckland is the insane asylum for the universe !
        
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        March 29, 2018 5:35pm
  - G152
    
    And that trade agreement he’s so keen on
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:35am
  - Harkman
    
    I thought that Winnie wants to play Brokeback Mountain with Vlad.
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:51am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  They’ve gone on holiday.
  I think Winnie has ascertained that they have been here, but we rumbled them.
  Next lot mightn’t be allowed to collect their Pass Go card.
  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/no-russian-spies-in-nz-but-there-intelligence-gatherers-ardern-admits
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:23am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Got it. The difference between a “spy” and “an intelligence gatherer” must be like the difference between lying and “mis-speaking”.
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:44am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Or making a confusing statement aka Jenny Marcroft.
      
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      March 29, 2018 10:13am
  - Harkman
    
    Didn’t Winnie look terrible in the House last night? Winnie made a Faustian deal and looks like he is paying for it.
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:55am
- niggly
  
  Compared to Helen Clark’s 5th Labour Govt, Jacinda’s COL 6th Labour Govt is a joke.
  
  Whether one was a fan of Helen Clark’s Govt or not, they had clearly articulated principles and stuck with them and no-one was in any doubt (eg Iraq – no intervention without an international UN mandate).
  
  Today we have the inept and totally out-of-her depth Jacinda Ardern COL Govt, who have no principles, are indecisive, and cannot even form a coherent message, let alone policy, on Russia.
  
  FFS Jacinda’s COL Govt were handed an easy pass by the Western international community to show some token solidarity (eg just expel only 1 measly diplomat and the international community would have been satisfied), but no Jacinda (and Winston) have turned NZ into an international laughing stock!
  
  What is Jacinda afraid of? Doesn’t she know her history? Answer, it’s her inexperience. But what’s Winston’s excuse – he would clearly recall the 3rd National Govt (that he joined) and Muldoon expelling Russian diplomats left-right-and-centre in solidarity with the Western international community and our allies. It was no big deal – it’s just what happened (Russian’s although unhappy just accepted it – because that’s just how these diplomacy things play out). But today thanks to Jacinda (and Winston) their inaction is become a big deal!
  
  Jacinda – you are so out of your depth and have gone from being a national embarrassment, to an international embarrassment and have dragged NZ down with you. Please step-down and just go away. Before you do more damage to NZ!
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:55am
  - Harlequin
    
    I have it on absolutely no authority whatsoever that a group of Russian spies had already left New Zealand but had to turn around and come back after Jacinda’s announcement.
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:24am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I think the least we all could do this Easter is search for some of these Russian intelligence gatherers.
      
      I intend staking out a couple of coffee bars in Gizzy and might take a stroll down to the Wharves to search for a Vlad or two.
      
      The hubby has been put on honeypot duty and is to notify me when he spies a blond temptress.
      
      WE CAN DO THIS.
      
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      March 29, 2018 9:32am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Maggy:
        
        The hubby has been put on honeypot duty
        
        Stephieboy knows about “honeypots” and may be able to assist
        
        Yesterday I was at the Robert Harris cafe St Lukes Megacentre , Mt Albert enjoying a cappuccino. I noticed next door three Muslim women enjoying their lattes with their children . Two of these honeypots .were wearing their Nijabs with stylish jeans and blouses . The other in more typical kiwi informal attire .
        
        With powers of observation like that, I reckon Stephieboy could sniff out a Russian spy from 700 meters away!
        
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        March 29, 2018 10:38am
  - Fletch
    
    What is Jacinda afraid of? Doesn’t she know her history?
    
    She bunked off history class in school to go down the street with her g/f’s. It’s all coming back on her now.
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:49am
  - Paulus
    
    She has gone to lunch with the Tainui so called Truck Driver called the King so perhaps she can ask him what to do.
    
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    March 29, 2018 1:05pm
    - marcw
      
      OMG, how much of our money will she give away this time? At least Kindy kids only want selfies, surely there must be one of them she hasn’t visited yet?
      
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      March 29, 2018 1:42pm
- dime
  
  Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Shooter McGavin blew a 4 stroke lead to give Happy Gilmore the championship.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:37am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  One thing that I can’t understand.
  
  Why would the Russians use a nerve agent that could be traced back to them so easily? It doesn’t make sense.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:36am
  - rangitoto
    
    They wanted to make it very clear that it was them course. It’s called sending a message – like the horse head in the godfather.
    
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    March 29, 2018 11:18am
    - Viking2
      
      Not necessarily. Perhaps the Ukraine did the job to wind up the the pomms and the Germans to have a go at the ruskies. Afterall the Ukrainians have had access to all these chemicals in the past.
      
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      March 29, 2018 4:58pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Not “not strictly what was said by palin” – not even close. Palin’s sole comment was that Alaska was the closest US State to Russia and was thus well aware of Russia in general.
  
  It was Tina Fey and the MSM who ran with the meme that tied Palin to the “can see it from my house” wording. In fact Russia is only visible from Alasaka from Little Diomede Island where one can see about 4 km away Big Diomede Island which is Russian territory. In winter an ice-bridge usually forms so one can walk from US territory to Russia (although it is nominally forbidden). In 1987 a person (Lynn Cox) swum between the two (Brrr, even summer it would be really cold) and was congratulated by both Gorbachev and Reagan.
  
  Just BTW, the two islands are divided like that as they were chosen to deliminate the border between the two countries when the Alaskan territory was sold to the US by Russia in 1867. The border runs at an equal distance from the two islands between them and all the way up through the Bering Strait northwards.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:45am
  - stephieboy
    
    Ed Snack ,
    
    FALSE: ‘I Can See Russia from My House’
    
    Vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin did not say ‘I can see Russia from my house.’ That line originated with an SNL spoof.
    
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/false-i-can-see-russia-from-my-h
    
    From the much maligned MSM Snopes !
    
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    March 29, 2018 12:33pm
  - Brigitte
    
    Good summary there Ed. Just to add on the swimming bit, it is currently -1.1c at Provideniya on the nearby Russian mainland. In summer it reaches a pretty respectable 8c (and as high as 11c) although I think it was lower than that when Lynn swam (slightly different location so that may have been a factor). I’m touchy about swimming when it gets below 20 so that’s a pretty impressive effort.
    
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    March 29, 2018 3:23pm
starboard

Jacinda Ardern is losing it. She and the COL look like a dogs breakfast. How embarrassing.
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March 29, 2018 8:03am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Ardern never had it to loose in the first place; you mistakenly attributed a skill to her to lose that she never had in the first place.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:05am
- pdm
  
  Did she ever have IT to lose?
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:08am
- virtualmark
  
  Slightly different interpretation …
  
  Jacinda is a very good personable popular charismatic front-woman. Just like JK was a very good personable popular charismatic front-man. Both JK and Ardern give good “smile and wave”.
  
  But JK had the likes of English, Joyce, Ryall etc sitting behind him getting stuff done and avoiding any controversies. Big capable brains who got shit done.
  
  Ardern has an inept group of Labour MPs, and a set of arsonists as coalition partners. Smile and wave isn’t enough if the ship is sinking. Not that that’s strictly Ardern’s fault … she’s filling her role okay. But the people around her are (to quote Rex Tillerson) fucking morons.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:27am
  - waikatogirl
    
    There were no flies on JK either. He has amazing retention for details, very astute politically and capable.
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:44am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Jacinda is a very good personable popular charismatic front-woman.
    
    Wrong. She’s a practised actor with a very limited repertoire: the vigorous head nodding, the head tilt, the faked smile, the dramatised head turn to the next repeater. All calculated to create an impression of candour, engagement, assertiveness and being in control. Unfortunately for her, the vacuous drivel that ensues, the contradictions and outright blatant lies, kind of undermine the effect for anyone taken in by the routine.
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:57am
  - flipper
    
    SCRUBBERS …. Mostly activists, and unemployable in the real world !!!!!!!!!
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:02am
    - sooty
      
      Post of the day?
      
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      March 29, 2018 10:39am
  - Colville
    
    JK was/is a very capable and ruthless manager and not scared of promoting talent which is what set him so far ahead of Clark.
    We have been seeing for some years now the result of Clark’s lack of ability to foster development of talent. Lets face it the talent pool is really puddle deep at best in the Labour caucus.
    Taxcinda is suffering from lack of quality staff and Taxcinda herself is the 4th ? (Goof, Shearer, Silent T, Angry Andy) so 5th leader since Clark and probably the least able of them but most likeable.
    Being likeable got her elected, it wont keep here there.
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:07am
    - Nev.
      
      Likeable?
      To be honest, when I hear her talk my scrotum wants to crawl up into the pit of my stomach. She is a vacuous, virtue signalling airhead with nothing to offer NZ except misery.
      Nev.
      
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      March 29, 2018 10:50am
      - Colville
        
        Nev.
        
        Everything you say is true…and yet she is still better than the last 4. 🙂
        
        But she is young (ish) and has a vagina… so to the sexist female class that makes her better than just about anybody. Just ask JAG.
        
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        March 29, 2018 11:31am
- mandk
  
  I think it is becoming clear that, although she can hold her own in debate and in front of a camera, she is a poor manager of a poor quality team.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:27am
- VicParking
  
  Secret meeting between Minister and RNZ Offical
  Manager One white male: Decisive, Strong, Offical resigns
  Manager Two white female; indecisive ,weak, Offical keeps Job
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:43am
  - VicParking
    
    Sorry, after Hollys joke below I must change my comment
    Manager Two white female Equidae inter-gluteal cleft:
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:59am
Than

A former Supreme Court Justice has said the 2nd Amendment should be repealed. I sort of agree; as it is currently being interpreted the 2nd Amendment is an abomination that results in 30,000 needless American deaths per year (mass shootings being only a small percentage of those). But it doesn’t need be completely repealed. It could simply be re-worded to reflect the modern world.

The current wording (as ratified in 1791) is;

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

This was written in the 18th century. The world has changed since then. In particular the concept of a citizens-militia (in the sense the founding fathers knew it) has completely disappeared, replaced by professional military forces. Even national guard units are still professional militaries, simply under state control rather than federal. In the modern world the idea of groups of citizens using their personal firearms to fight off a tyrannical government is laughable – even without factoring in tanks, artillery and such, an infantry platoon has several LMGs, grenade launchers, light mortars, training, comms, tactics… their advantages are so numerous as to be overwhelming. The solution to a tyrannical government is to persuade the army to be on your side, not individual citizens grabbing their guns.

The term “militia” is obsolete and needs to be replaced. But once you do that the rest of the amendment ceases to make sense and needs to be re-written. A re-statement of the 2nd Amendment suited to the modern world might be;

A professional military being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to serve in any rank and role, shall not be infringed.

It’s interesting to speculate how much better a place the USA would be if this had been how the 2nd amendment was interpreted. Rather than being used to defend the right of Americans to kill each other, it might have been used to fight Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Or to allow women and African-Americans to serve decades earlier. It could have been a positive influence on American society, instead of the hateful, divisive thing it is today.
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March 29, 2018 8:06am
- Inandout
  
  If you are a ‘former’ US Supreme Court judge you would have to be 97 years old. That nasty Democrat woman member is 83. Constitutions can’t just be ‘altered’ to fit someone’s agenda.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:11am
  - Than
    
    Actually yes, they can. There are 27 amendments to the US constitution, the most recent of which was passed in 1992.
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:16am
    - Inandout
      
      Depends on the ‘agenda’, and why they want it altered. Slavery is a different issue from firearms, and not forgetting Democrats fought tooth and nail against reforming slavery.
      
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      March 29, 2018 2:42pm
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Could you define “Amendment” and then reflect on why your idea that “Constitutions can’t just be ‘altered’ to fit someone’s agenda” is patently ridiculous.
    
    How was Slavery repealed? How was Prohibition repealed?
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:00am
    - stephieboy
      
      slightyrighty , the prohibition legislation was changed by a vote by the requisite majority of Congress and the President ’s signature .
      
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      March 29, 2018 9:11am
      - Sideoiler
        
        …..the prohibition legislation was changed by a vote by the requisite majority of Congress and the President ’s signature .
        
        Nope!
        
        The Twenty-first Amendment (Amendment XXI) to the United States Constitution repealed the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which had mandated nationwide Prohibition on alcohol on January 16, 1919.
        
        The Twenty-first Amendment was ratified on December 5, 1933[1]. It is unique among the 27 amendments of the U.S. Constitution for being the only one to repeal a prior amendment and to have been ratified by state ratifying conventions.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
        
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        March 29, 2018 9:57am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Wrong, as sideoiler points out the States have to ratify any amendments. If I recall correctly the Equal Rights for women amendment foundered on this point some years back, not enough States ratified it.
        
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        March 29, 2018 11:01am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Sage , wise and incisive words from Mr Justice Paul Stevens .
  
  Commonsense too for a flip flop President kowtowing before his donors and real bosses , the NRA.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:15am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Keep your story straight Stephieboy. Trump’s real boss is Vladimir Putin. You told us so repeatedly over the past year. And the NRA and Vladimir don’t get on, so Trumpie will have to chose one of them, won’t he.
    
    Decisions, decisions…
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:58am
  - VicParking
    
    You are not able to join the military if you are on regular medication as this might not be available on the front line or say at sea. Up till now “trans” were excused from this, now they will be not. Simple.
    Would you want to put your life in a person hands who’s prescription for testosterone or estrogen has run out.
    
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    March 29, 2018 12:07pm
    - Inandout
      
      Plus many trannies are not the full quid, and that statement came from a medical specialist.
      
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      March 29, 2018 2:45pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  You don’t get a job in the military (or anywhere) because it is your right. That is the worst sort of leftism.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:17am
- kowtow
  
  “results in 30,000 needless American deaths per year”
  
  London has had 10 murders in nearly as many days.
  
  And the victims and perpetrators are of a similar demographic to the American.
  
  It’s not the guns that’s the problem.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:36am
  - stephieboy
    
    kowtow ,
    
    There were 571 homicides (murder, manslaughter and infanticide) in the year ending March 2016 in England and Wales. This represents an increase of 57 offences (11%) from the 514 recorded in the previous year.Feb 9, 2017
    
    Homicide – Office for National Statistics
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/…/homicide
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:41am
- UpandComer
  
  That’s not what it meant. That would be an utter perversion of what it meant. It referred to an armed citizenry. It was written with referenceand adherence to the Magna Carta and a hatred and fear precisely of ‘standing armies’ by men who had fought in a citizen’s army against the strongest institutional military in the world. Just because a few crisis actors, one of whom keeps changing his story (Hogg wasn’t even at the school on the day- he fluffed his lines) say the second amendment is bad, doesn’t make its import as an inalienable right for armed citizens change.
  
  That school shooting was caused at best by political correctness. Because the Obama DOJ hatched a scummy little deal with the school district to impose a crime ceiling on crime by the dindu vibrant !Americans! at the school. After the second week in every month to get money the school district stopped reporting crime. The local gangs and organised crime found out. They recruited students. They committed their crimes after the say they knew the school district in collision with the police would stop prosecuting crime to get their gibs. That’s why Cruz, if we even accept he shot anyone given multiple witnesses seeing multiple shooters and all the other anomalies, was able to get a gun the current laws say he can’t get. Then of course the 6 officers on or near the scene, armed, were ordered to stand down.
  
  Tell me why Theodore Beale is wrong when he says that the test for an American today as opposed to a not-American is whether they will support the constitutions’ right for citizens to arm themselves to occasionally kill corrupt officials? You know, in case the LGBT police come for your kids (Canada) or the police come for you and your kids because you expressed a view about your daughter getting gang raped live, through a window, in the street in Bradford etc etc.
  
  Anyone who says the second amendment doesnt allow a fully armed citizenry is an !American! They aren’t an American.
  
  Gun crime and crime is massively falling. Homicides have dropped from 7 per 100k to less then 3.5 today.
  There is no correlation between gun ownership and murder. Vermont had extremely high gun ownership. Rural Midwest has even higher. No gun crime.
  There is no correlation between the strength of gun regulations and gun crime. Illinois has the strongest gun laws. Illinois has the highest rate of gun deaths.
  Only 2% of locales in America are responsible for 50% of all the deaths by guns. Guess which ones.
  All the laws already exist which would stop school shootings. But for some reasons the FBI always K own they’re happening well ahead of time but don’t intervene. Weird.
  Anyone who wants to understand why governments might want to confiscate guns look at what will happen in South Africa on the next twelve months. Look at the UK now where you cant have an edged spoon. Look at France. Look at Brazil. No guns, and 60k murders per year and urban warfare in the Favelas.
  
  The anti gun !Americans! Need to all decamp to Mexico.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:27am
  - stephieboy
    
    Upandcomer ,
    
    “That school shooting was caused at best by political correctness. Because the Obama DOJ hatched a scummy little deal with the school district to impose a crime ceiling on crime by the dindu vibrant !Americans! at the school. After the second week in every month to get money the school district stopped reporting crime. The local gangs and organised crime found out. They recruited students…”
    
    What a feeble and pathetic cop out !
    
    Shall we say the same for , Sandy Hook ,Orlando , Las Vegas etc ??
    
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    March 29, 2018 12:42pm
    - UpandComer
      
      Not an argument.
      
      What I said is what happened. The local notaries conspired with the Obama DOJ to under-report serious crime which created a crime wave and the mass draft of minors into organised crime.
      
      That’s how the FBI and the local police knew everything about Cruz, and were notified 37 times, and did nothing. Corrupt Chicago culture.
      
      That’s why the attack happened.
      
      Also, Cruz, whose biological parents were dead, and also had one of his adoptee parents die, was relentlessly and viciously bullied by class-mates from middle-school.
      
      That’s just a minor fact I suppose.
      
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      March 29, 2018 1:49pm
Inandout

Crusher had a mouthy Labour lady on Garner this morning, trying to gloss over Carol’s resignation, and Curran’s amazing escape. Collins as usual looked the part, Twitford was somewhere else.
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March 29, 2018 8:07am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  The mouthy labour lady was Carmel Sepuloni.
  Remember the face, she’s going to be in front of you a lot.
  
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  March 29, 2018 2:51pm
  - RF
    
    Dear God. Known around parliament as the “sewer”.
    
    Her mother and partner were arrested for benefit fraud and convicted.
    
    Must be a requirement to be a Labour MP.
    
    Sweet cheeks Grant’s father did time for theft of clients funds when he was an accountant.
    
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    March 29, 2018 6:33pm
Poppa

Smith gone!!

Warner gone!!

I doubt we will ever see Warner again & I will not be sorry about that. Smith may get back in after 12 months but I bet he will never be the same player again.

It couldn’t happen to a better couple of jerks
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March 29, 2018 8:11am
- Nostradamus
  
  Poppa:
  
  This article goes further than media reports and provides the full Cricket Australia statement.
  
  On my reading, David Warner comes out looking worse than Steve Smith in some respects, although they were charged under Article 2.3.5 of the CA Code of Conduct:
  
  Steve Smith was charged with a breach of Article 2.3.5 of the CA Code of Conduct based on:
  
  (a) knowledge of a potential plan to attempt to artificially alter the condition of the ball;
  (b) failure to take steps to seek to prevent the development and implementation of that plan;
  (c) directing that evidence of attempted tampering be concealed on the field of play;
  (d) seeking to mislead Match Officials and others regarding Bancroft’s attempts to artificially alter the condition of the ball; and
  (e) misleading public comments regarding the nature, extent and participants of the plan
  
  David Warner was charged with a breach of Article 2.3.5 of the CA Code of Conduct based on:
  
  (a) development of a plan to attempt to artificially alter the condition of the ball;
  (b) instruction to a junior player to carry out a plan to take steps to attempt to artificially alter the condition of the ball using sandpaper;
  (c) provision of advice to a junior player regarding how a ball could be artificially altered including demonstrating how it could be done;
  (d) failure to take steps to seek to prevent the development and/or implementation of the plan;
  (e) failure to report his knowledge of the plan at any time prior to or during the match;
  (f) misleading Match Officials [compare this wording with Smith’s “seeking to mislead”] through the concealment of his knowledge of and involvement in the plan; and
  (g) failure to voluntarily report his knowledge of the plan after the match
  
  And on leadership:
  
  Steve Smith and Cameron Bancroft will not be considered for team leadership positions until a minimum of 12 months after the conclusion of their respective suspensions from international and domestic cricket. Any consideration of future leadership would be conditional on acceptance by fans and the public, form and authority among the playing group. David Warner will not be considered for team leadership positions in the future.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:25am
  - Poppa
    
    Yes apparently it was Warner who was pushing it.
    
    If CA want us to believe that this is a one off, they better think again
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:30am
    - Paulus
      
      Until they get caught again !
      
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      March 29, 2018 1:10pm
  - VicParking
    
    From the statements it seems that on Smith and Warner make the “Leadership Group”. One would expect the coach to be in that group. Who is in the Black caps equivalent group?????
    
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    March 29, 2018 12:13pm
- mandk
  
  When I read the first two line my immediate thought was: “what portfolio in the CoL did those two hold?”
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:30am
- VicParking
  
  Smith & Warner. Sounds like something you put to your head and pull the trigger
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:46am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Warner,
  
  Only one letter and a small typo between the name and the personality!
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:14am
- Kimbo
  
  I think it is a bit harsh, but they had to do something to try and regain credibility with sponsors, supporters and for tv rights. Six months would have been more like it, for Smith at any rate. Warner? If they are smart they will never pick him again, so they may as well say it is 12 months, with the understanding by all that he is damaged goods, toxic to the team environment, and no one there ever wants him back. Concocting the “leadership group” story to try and broaden the scope and dissipate the punishment when it was really just the “vice captain”, shows what a rat bag he is. Cheat on your wife, cheat against the rules of the game, but don’t ever cheat on your team mates. That code may seem warped, but like when you fight in a war, the most precious group of people whom you always seek to protect, even above your self, is your comrades.
  
  The 9 months for Bancroft is far too severe. Yes, he did it, but he was approached and instructed how to tamper by his vice-captain, with the knowledge of his captain. As per my comment above, he nature of sports teams is that you are loyal to your team, and take instruction from the senior players. If not, you are soon ostracised and axed. Whether Bancroft willingly went along with it is irrelevant to the fact that any junior player in his position would likely feel their place in the team was in jeopardy unless he complied.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:49am
  - dime
    
    Bancroft was harshly dealt with. what was the kid meant to do?
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:06am
    - VicParking
      
      Agree.
      But look at Jenny Marcroft
      
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      March 29, 2018 12:15pm
  - Poppa
    
    I agree Kimbo. I actually almost feel sorry for Bancroft who was bullied into doing the deed.
    
    It is delicious watching the backlash unfolding. I suspect the sponsors have put huge pressure on CA & therefore they had no option
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:06am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Kimbo:
    
    CricInfo has an interview with Ian Chappell in which (among other interesting comments) he noted that David Warner was already out of favour with Cricket Australia because of comments he made publicly regarding the player contract negotiations. It seems hard to believe, given the events of this week, but only a few months ago Cricket Australia was on the verge of putting all players on a pay freeze!
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:09am
- redeye
  
  Meme of the day from my FB page;-
  
  “Worst case of ball tampering since Bruce Jenner.”
  
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  March 29, 2018 1:02pm
gorse

Do I detect a change towards Adern by the media, Stuff in particular. It seems to me they are beginning to call her out on honesty and transparency. I suspect some reporters and opinion writers have had enough, already.
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March 29, 2018 8:13am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  About damned time.
  What’s taken them so long?
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:18am
- oldgolfer
  
  No doubt about that. I thought the tide would turn, and it has.
  They don’t like losing one of their own (Hirschfeld).
  She wrote her own epitaph by lying to RNZ, but Curran reckons because she has said sorry, it’s all over.
  I bet it’s not.
  Wasn’t Hooton suggesting there could be more to come at the weekend?
  The pressure will keep coming on from now.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:27am
  - Poppa
    
    Yes there will be more to come. Melissa Lee has played this magnificently.
    
    A slow death
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:33am
    - alex Masterley
      
      Agreed, Melissa will make the spanish inquisition seem like a day spa as this pans out. It will be fun to watch Ms Currans mouth flapping open and shut.
      
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      March 29, 2018 9:15am
      - KiWombat
        
        As every page of Currans scrap book is turned Melissa seems to have more and more ammo in store.
        
        Give it another week or two and any bye-election in Mount Albert might start to look a bit risky for the government !
        
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        March 29, 2018 10:30am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      In q time yesterday Lee was asking about other undeclared meetings, and I wondered what she knew that is about to unfold.
      
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      March 29, 2018 10:35am
    - KiWombat
      
      Melissa has a question today – looks like she will continue the attack on Curran – might write another page to her epitaph !
      
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      March 29, 2018 12:19pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Yes KiWombat yesterday was other meetings and today how many txt since the secret meeting? Answer. None that caused a chuckle from opposition benches. Expect to see follow ups next week with things being tabled. No rush to see Curran gone since it the longer this drags out the worse the Commie Chick looks by her inaction.
        
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        March 30, 2018 1:11am
- Inandout
  
  Just as in the US there is change, and I actually heard a CNN commentator praise Trump. Trump’s popularity is also increasing, what a sweet result. I must also add that the Defense Budget contains money for the wall; that man is one smart cookie.
  
  If only Trump could run this country remotely so the CoL idiots could be sidelined.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:45am
- Piniwi
  
  But gorse thinks have got bad for the visual Media party they have joined together in the hope of finding some relevance.
  
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  March 30, 2018 1:05am
oldpark

Just a comparison. Karma has caught up with the arrogance and gall of the Australian Cricket Team.
That type of comparison is matched by Peters and his gang of no hopers with Commie Chic Comrade Ardern aboard. NZs has become the laughing stock of the world.
Yes NZs Government is being described as a “Play School” type of democracy where daily, Adults who should know better act like Children and perform even worse.
To think that a has been or never was pest like Peters, is the architect of such worldly derision is an Abomination,and a total insult for all NZs.
Hopefully the bastards will get dumped anytime soon.Just like the Three Australian Cricketers,whose arrogance and gall knew no boundaries.
Much like the present Coalition of Corruption and Confusion. Daily being manipulated by a has been or never was.
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March 29, 2018 8:16am
Nostradamus

Just checked out The Standard and nearly fell off my chair!

An Orwellian Minister for Open Government
By: Matthew Whitehead
…
For full disclosure, I was a critic of Curran from before her appointment, and have previously stated I don’t think there’s any reasonable way to say she is qualified to be a Minister, and that she must have somehow leveraged her way into the appointment politically. Given that Labour determines who gets into cabinet by a vote of their caucus, there is no easy way to tell if she did manage to do so, so I will admit to pure speculation there, but I honestly can’t see her impressing the rest of caucus with any actual skills, so it’s either a reward for some sort of favour, or she knows where some bodies are buried.
…

In the comments thread, there’s not a groundswell of support for Curran. And Lprent only dished out one ban. How unusual.
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March 29, 2018 8:17am
- MrLovebucket
  
  I noticed this too. Further down it was business as usual and describing the events as a hit job by the right-wing MSM to make sure RNZ+ doesn’t get funding as they are scared.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:16am
- alex Masterley
  
  Good god. Ms Curran seems to be universaly disliked, except in Duneding South.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:16am
  - Nev.
    
    Renowned Stranded commentator Tat Loo resigned from the Labour Party over her. She is despised by everyone, including Dunedin South! They probably elected her to get her the “F” out of Dunners.
    Nev.
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:07am
    - alex Masterley
      
      There is a silver lining to every cloud if that idiot handed in his ticket as a member of labour.
      
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      March 29, 2018 3:11pm
    - RF
      
      The famous “CV”.
      
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      March 29, 2018 6:37pm
      - axeman
        
        I thought it changed to ‘CA’
        ie. Colonic Arsewiper
        
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        March 30, 2018 2:35am
- VicParking
  
  Marcroft And Curran had better look out for passing buses
  
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  March 29, 2018 12:17pm
peterwn

Thinking of Matthew Hooton’s article, I wonder if Helen Clark will be back in Parliament and Prime Minister before the end of the year. She could have a tilt at the Northcote byelection.
Possibly too Mt Albert could be up for grabs and she would shoo into that especially if Jacinda was offered a high list place in 2020. Except the unions may not want her in the top seat.
Perhaps I am dreaming too much.
As exam questions sometimes ask – “Discuss”.
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March 29, 2018 8:19am
- Poppa
  
  That would be far too much for me to take frankly.
  
  Please keep that as a dream
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:24am
  - RalphT
    
    “Please keep that as a dream”…before it turns into a nightmare.
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:29am
- All_on_Red
  
  Not entirely far fetched – for the good of the Pardy
  But on the List more likely than an Electoral seat
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:30am
  - lifesgood
    
    I wouldn’t put anything past those morons but lets remember that the public had had a gutsful of the she devil and there were no tears shed when she left.
    I doubt people have forgotten nanny.
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:45am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    To return to Parliament in this term, Clark would have to win an electorate. The list is set in concrete now until 2020, and only those who were on the 2017 list can replace a list MP who retires/resigns.
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:24am
  - fernglas
    
    it would be an admission of incompetence and failure; thus the most honest thing they could do
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:08am
- Harkman
  
  Well Helun Cluck is a leach, having never worked in the private sector, so why would we be surprised.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:03am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Dislike Helen’s politics, but at least she was competent. The Col, are fucking NZ up through ineptness, we need better.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:29am
- dime
  
  the woman still scares me.
  
  very few people scare me. but Dime wouldnt give her shit in real life. yikes.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:07am
Maggy Wassilieff

Trevor Mallard having to paper over the cracks in the CoL.
https://yournz.org/2018/03/29/jenny-marcroft-tainted-but-protected-so-far/
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March 29, 2018 8:28am
- mandk
  
  Of course Marcroft was under instruction by a Govt Minister.
  
  You can hear the conversation now:
  
  Jones: “We need to get that bugger Mitchell to pull his head in.”
  
  Peters: “Well, send someone to try and sort him out. The girl Marcroft needs something to do. Send her.”
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:35am
- redeye
  
  I would argue that this issue, morally at least, is as bad as the Curran issue. But made even worse by Mallard’s ruling that the drunk hadn’t used Deputy PM in the body of the text so the letter head used could have been a staff mistake. Therefore no ministerial responsibility. What a load of crap.
  And this new practice of docking supplementary questions from parties during question time really is school yard stuff and ultimately only hurts democracy. It’s not a game. He decides that someone has groaned to loudly and we don’t get to have the government answer for it’s behavior.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:54am
  - KiWombat
    
    If WeeWinnie is using his DPM letterhead for what he contends is a party issue, then it should be up to him to answer questions.
    
    The DPM letterhead and the Party Leader letterhead should be on different computers and generated by different staff in different offices.
    
    It seems he may be guilty of having used Ministerial Staffers to handle a party issue, which in itself is an abuse of his position !
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:50am
Humble Capitalist

Another week of Coalition corruption draws to a close. The Easter bunny cant arrive soon enough for them im sure
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March 29, 2018 8:28am
Happychappy

You can always tell when Winston is rattled and the Government he runs is under servere pressure, out comes the smeers and bitter sledges that he condeems from others. Winston Peters answers questions by asking another question to cover his or others mistakes and this time in Government will be found out because being a Leader of your Party does not make you a compedent Leader of a Country. Like Jacinda it is all about him and the voter are starting to see that if it continues it can’t be good for NZ or the taxpayer.
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March 29, 2018 8:37am
- VicParking
  
  At Question time the starts with a joke?, he is the only one who laughs at it and Cindy looks down at her paperwork and cringes.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:50am
- waikatogirl
  
  And the “look here sunshine” along with that excessive grin and laughing is his go-to when lying. ?
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:56am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I also notice that all parliamentarians stand and address their comments toward the Speaker, but WP leans on the lecturn with one elbow, and yesterday he was addressing the MPs behind him with his back to Mallard.
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:40am
Rodney Randall

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=saEX5_1522200871

Mental Illness – Transgenders.

“Published on Nov 14, 2017 Student Action interviews Dr. Michelle Cretella, M.D., president of the American College of Pediatricians. She debunks the lies behind transgender ideology with sound science and denounces the new wave of child abuse caused by the transgender movement.”
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March 29, 2018 8:41am
- Nostradamus
  
  Pakistani news channel hires country’s first transgender anchor
  
  A Pakistani news channel has hired the country’s first transgender TV newsreader. Marvia Malik anchored her first show on private broadcaster Kohenoor on Friday (local time), after three months of training. … Ms Malik, a journalism graduate who also worked as a model, said she hoped her work would improve the lives of Pakistan’s transgender community.
  
  A possible candidate for the Pakistan’s Next Top Model reality TV show?
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:48am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  The American College of Pediatricians Is an Anti-LGBT Group
  A small but clever anti-LGBT group created a legit-sounding name.
  
  “ Did you read this headline and think I was accusing The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)
  (link is external)
  of opposing the LGBT community? That’s the problem. A small anti-LGBT group called the “American College of Pediatricians (ACP)” created a name that is easily confused with the AAP, the largest pediatrics organization in the country.
  
  It is disturbing that news organizations
  (link is external)
  and physicians are citing the “ACP” as a reputable source. The ACP is a small group of physicians that left the AAP after the AAP released a 2002 policy statement explaining that gay parents pose no risk to adopted children….”
  
  https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/201705/the-american-college-pediatricians-is-anti-lgbt-group
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:48am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    You forgot fascist, alt-right Stephanie!
    
    Were you born in a different body Stephanie?
    Is that what they told you?
    
    Christ died on the cross for trannies too:)
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:30am
  - Fletch
    
    No, they’re not anti-LGBTQ – they are realists that genuinely care about the welfare of those groups and the effect that pushing these liberal ideas will have on young children. No one really believes that a man is a woman just because he says so. If you do then you have to totally disregard science and biology and you’ve been totally brainwashed.
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:59am
Right of way is Way of Right

I heard on the radio this morning that reported crime statistics are falling, and that we now have more people in prisons than ever.

Locking people up seems to be working then!
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March 29, 2018 8:42am
- DigNap15
  
  So would you like them all out on the streets!
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:46am
  - VicParking
    
    DigBat it was sarcasm
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:51am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    Suggest you re-read my post. Careful now, don’t hurt yourself!
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:15am
- holysheet
  
  I like your posadividy. However, have you seen the undisclosed commiteee report compiled by those old white men on this?
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:50am
  - tf78
    
    Speaking of committees did you see the Reserve Bank is now going to be run by committee – God help us please.
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:19am
    - Harkman
      
      It is an act of stupity, because the Governor has to then go to the press and explain the decision, “Today we decided to cut the Official Cash Rate.” A reporter then asks, “Governor did you support this action?” The Governor promptly replies, “No, we need to lift interest rates because we have inflation pressures and an out of control housing bubble.” Trust me government borrowing yields will surge and the currency will drop.
      
      Volcker and Greenspan had to act alone in 1984 and 2001 to lower interest rates. Whereas, Volcker in January 1986 and Mervin King in 2007 wanted no change but the committee voted against them.
      
      The evidence from economic literature is that the optimal setting is a Central Bank Governor that is more conservative and worried about inflation than the general public. With this move we will have lots of Labour & Winston cronies fiddling with our money.
      
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      March 29, 2018 1:25pm
- kowtow
  
  This gubmint will be letting them out.
  
  Who will be held to account for what will be a spike in offending as a result?
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:06am
- MrLovebucket
  
  People on the Left simply aren’t smart enough to see the link.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:18am
- AgainstTheFlow
  
  No one in the social science area will look at the direction of causation.
  Not in their interests to do so, not in their comprehension to do so.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:03am
- kowtow
  
  The stats are falling because they’re massaging the fuck out of them. Easy.
  
  ‘The panels were also a cost-saving measure, as they reduced the number of cases going through the courts, the amount of time police spent dealing with low-level reoffending and the number of days people were held in prison.’
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/102614436/precharge-restorative-justice-initiative-expanded
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:35am
  - Piniwi
    
    But kowtow it is just part of the cost to NZ for Labour gaining all the native seats. It is also a further sanctioning of a separate system for the sun tan clan. Why would anybody think the natives would listen to tribal leaders in this situation when they neglect them the rest of the time. When has there ever been any tribe initiative to attempt to prevent their people opting for a life of crime in the first place. They only care when another trough is offered.
    
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    March 30, 2018 1:27am
Manolo

Trump vs Bezos:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/28/president-trump-reportedly-hates-amazon.html

Axios is reporting that Trump wants to “go after” the e-commerce giant, citing five sources who have talked about Amazon with him.
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March 29, 2018 8:44am
- holysheet
  
  A photo has surfaced of Trump grabbing a pussy.
  He is shaking hands with Justin Trudeau.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:54am
  - Harkman
    
    ??? that is one gigantic pussy.
    
    If Cindy is married to Justine, doesn’t that make her Lesbian?
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:08am
  - stephieboy
    
    and gobbled by Stormy Daniels etc !
    
    LOL
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:12am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Gee Stephie-jealous, did the goats turn you down this morning?
      
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      March 29, 2018 11:10am
    - VicParking
      
      Morning Stephie the Goat gobbler ??
      
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      March 29, 2018 12:21pm
holysheet

Three of the best surgeons were playing golf together and discussing surgeries they had performed. One of them said, “I’m the best surgeon in the world. In one operation, a concert pianist lost seven fingers in an accident. I reattached them and eight months later he performed brilliantly at a sold out concert at the Sydney opera house .”
The second surgeon said. “That’s nothing. A young man lost an arm and both legs in an accident. I reattached them and two years later he won a Gold Medal in a track and field event in the Olympics.”
The third surgeon said, “You guys are amateurs. Several years ago a crazy woman rode a horse head-on into a train traveling eighty kilometres an hour. All I had left to work with was her auburn hair, the horse’s arse and head. I was able to put them together and now, she’s the PM of New Zealand!”
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March 29, 2018 8:45am
- KiWombat
  
  Stupid bloody surgeon. Surely he could have though of a more creative use for the poor horses arse !
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:01am
  - Nostradamus
    
    a more creative use for the poor horses arse
    
    Perhaps Grant and Alf could have found “a more creative use” for it?
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:07am
    - Paulus
      
      I looks as though Robertson’s pre election and Treasury figures which he said false as stated by Stephen Joyce’s missing ($11 Billion) $11,000,000,000, is well understated as Robertson is now admitting that he will need much more money and that will be well exceeded in the Budget in May.
      And it is all National’s fault.
      
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      March 29, 2018 1:28pm
      - Brigitte
        
        No, the $11b relates to the pre-election promises (basically if you get $2b extra tax, spend $13b extra, then you can’t promise the debt will stay the same).
        
        This is additional spending. However, it seems GR is managing to extricate himself by conflating the two and no-one is calling them out on it. Joyce & National have not been on the ball on this topic and now appear as the guilty party.
        
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        March 29, 2018 3:18pm
- stephieboy
  
  holydung ,
  
  “Dude, I can’t stand jokes about crippled people. She had to have been weak in the knees!”
  
  https://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/4722581/B/113
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:17am
lifesgood

Yesterday I heard Guyon Espiner stating indignantly that some people call nat radio “Red radio”. Of course he went on to say that was unjust and that they were balanced. What an idiot! If the lefties on Red Radio can’t see how unbalanced they are then what hope is there? You would think that if you knew that’s what the public were calling you you would take a good hard look at yourself and try to address the imbalance, but, no, you just deny it.
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March 29, 2018 8:49am
- holysheet
  
  He must have gone to the same uni and got the same training in bullshit that the PM select got.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:51am
- peterwn
  
  If the hat fits ……
  
  It will morph into the Ministry of Truth if Claire and Carol get their way in due course.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:56am
- MrLovebucket
  
  I think the term “Red Radio” is unfair. The correct name should be “The broadcasting arm of the NZ Labour Party”.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:20am
  - kowtow
    
    Ko broadcasting Marxism in maori a hoey hoey hoey ka towey towey towey.
    
    All on honkies dime , a hoey hoey hoey.
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:29am
    - lifesgood
      
      I love the “call Katrina Batten a hoe” Fancy introducing yourself that way! It’s like telephone numbers in a public dunny.
      
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      March 29, 2018 10:49am
  - Piniwi
    
    But MrLovebucket we prefer it to be known as the propaganda department of the Labour party. But the Red Radio keeps it short in keeping with the attention they get from the majority.
    
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    March 30, 2018 1:31am
- niggly
  
  Perhaps Espiner is right in an ironic way – whilst it always used to be “Red Radio”, now with the likes of Espiner, Wallace Chapman, Karyn Hay, their Saturday afternoon music hosts and content producers etc, it’s clearly more like “Watermelon/Greens Radio”!
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:19am
  - MrLovebucket
    
    So worse you mean?
    
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    March 29, 2018 1:01pm
DigNap15

The reason the Netherlands has a much lower prison population per capita than us is that have 1,000 years of Protestant work ethic. And they don’t have a large indigenous population who have no aspirations other than to be gangsta look alikes.
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March 29, 2018 8:50am
- kowtow
  
  500 years maybe but not 1000.
  
  Interesting about the work ethic thing.
  
  Bavaria is the most prosperous German state and is , Catholic.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:58am
  - Harkman
    
    Interesting, I observed about three years ago that most of the quality produce parts of Europe are within a 100km or so from the Rhine (and I’m probably the last person to make this observation). So indeed it is a cultural element developed over a long time. (Swiss Banking and Watches, Champagne region, German engineering in Bavaria, Dutch and Belgium beers, Dutch conglomerates etc).
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:18am
- peterwn
  
  This is partly why in the 1950’s when NZ could not get enough immigrants from UK, the NZ Government turned to the Netherlands as a source of immigrants. Also many Dutch people speak English quite well.
  
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  March 29, 2018 8:59am
- Maxx
  
  I saw this “report” by little comparing us to the Netherlands and thought it was a load of rubbish.
  
  First of all, what is the prison population by crime? Is there just less violent offending in the society so people are imprisoned for fewer years?
  
  Second, his comment about fixing issues in the home before they become criminals later in life is great. Fully support it. But 75%+ of the population are not children, and we need to take into account the here and now as well as the down the track.
  
  And third, the 10 largest companies have a annual revenue of at least 4 times the size of our GDP. So having a strong economy with strong companies can lead to greater societal benefit.
  
  It also highlights that population size is not the negative and you could possible even take from it the scale of economies that you can have by having a larger population base to increase the overall productivity of the nation and also have a greater pool of tax.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:07am
  - Harkman
    
    “And third, the 10 largest companies have a annual revenue of at least 4 times the size of our GDP. So having a strong economy with strong companies can lead to greater societal benefit.”
    
    The Labour party’s socialism did NZ a treasonous disservice by nationalizing everything other than Fletchers, DB and Lion Breweries (which both taste like shit).
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:22am
- RF
  
  It would be interesting to see the breakdown of the Netherland inmates in relation to ethnicity.
  
  It might just explain the low prison population.
  
  Our stats are bloody terrible when you compare Maori to caucasion inmate numbers.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:58am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  They used to put lazy people in a sump with a hand pump as punishment. Pump or drown.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:03am
DigNap15

To Andrew Little.

The number one purpose of a government is to keep its ciciznes safe. So we need to keep locking up violent criminals, drug dealers and burglars and drink drivers.
If you want to reduce the prison population you need to work on the low Maori work ethic and their low educational achievements.
National were starting work on this and with Charter schools.
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March 29, 2018 9:04am
- Maxx
  
  How does the Netherlands have such a low prison rate. Simply close the case or don’t report the crime.
  
  A lot of crime goes unreported due to police inaction when it is reported “…leaked report suggests some 3.5 million crimes actually go unregistered every year” and “willingness to report dropped by 23% in the last 10 years”
  
  http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/01/a-low-crime-rate-dutch-police-are-unaware-of-most-crimes-says-leaked-report/
  
  Labours answer to reducing crime – stop reporting it and it’ll go away! I seem to remember this advice from school “ignore the bully and they’ll leave you alone”. They also left me alone when I knocked them down, and I took a lot less punishment for it too.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:16am
  - stephieboy
    
    Maxx , the problem is that Prisons become training centres for more criminal behaviour . The challenge is to break that cycle . A” lock en up and throw away the keys “mentality does not solve the issue .
    
    I would have thought serious crimes ( homicide , rape , armed robbery etc ) in the Netherlands do not go unreported .
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:22am
    - DigNap15
      
      So to break that cycle, keep them in jail in single cells with no mixing at all, ever.
      
      What make you say violent crime goes unreported in the Netherlands? Proof please?
      
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      March 29, 2018 9:26am
    - Maxx
      
      Violent crimes remain the most persistent problem in the country. Nationwide violent crimes only decreased by 3 percent, compared to the 12 percent decrease in car thefts, muggings and burglaries. 167 municipalities even saw an increase in assaults.
      
      It appears that the rate of crime and violent crime is decreasing in NZ – I’m not sure of the rates. But I would argue that there is a lag effect in the prison population with people that need to be there, including those that are likely to re-offend, being higher for another 10 years before starting to see a drop corresponding to the crime rate.
      
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      March 29, 2018 9:38am
      - kowtow
        
        There needs to be a genuine debate around violent crime in NZ.
        
        Also too easy for the media and other wankers to blame “guns”. This was an illegally held firearm.
        
        ‘ Months of brutal violence led up to Auckland mum Chozyn Koroheke’s murder’
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/102602516/months-of-brutal-violence-led-up-to-auckland-mum-chozyn-korohekes-murder
        
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        March 29, 2018 9:50am
    - simpleton1
      
      Just “attempting” to stop assassinations, and “struggling” to protect the vulnerable, because of “insufficient attention” and so some claim it is reduced crime.
      
      Amsterdam’s police chief, Pieter-Jaap Aalbersberg, claimed his force was spending 60% to 70% of its time attempting to combat gang-related hit-jobs.
      
      Young men were willing to carry out assassinations for as little as €3,000, he said in an interview this month. “In the 80s and 90s, professional hitmen from abroad came here for €50,000,” said Aalbersberg. “In recent years we see young boys from Amsterdam.”
      With the police struggling to deal with the most high-profile crimes, it is claimed that officers are missing many others.
      “In particular, the theft, fraud and violence against the elderly and vulnerable people has increased enormously and insufficient attention is paid to this.”
      The Dutch minister for justice and security, Ferd Grapperhaus, acknowledged he had received the police report warning of a “lack of capacity for the combat against organised crime” . https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/20/netherlands-becoming-a-narco-state-warn-dutch-police
      
      Note that Violence against the elderly seems not to be a serious crime.
      Crime reduces wonderfully when the police systems do not apprehend offenders.
      It seems that many of the upper echelon believe that this should be the goal for NZ as well.
      
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      March 29, 2018 9:54am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Led by massive rise in Islamic population. Netherlands are fucked.
        
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        March 29, 2018 10:10am
      - stephieboy
        
        UC, and the evidence that Muslim refugees and immigrants are entirely responsible for this ?
        
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        March 29, 2018 10:23am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        the evidence that Muslim refugees and immigrants are entirely responsible for this
        
        You’re asking UrbanNeocolonialist to provide evidence for a claim that he or she didn’t make:
        
        Led by massive rise in Islamic population. Netherlands are fucked.
        
        Are you engaging in cheap debating tactics, Stephieboy?
        
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        March 29, 2018 10:27am
      - stephieboy
        
        Nostradamus OK , led by a massive etc
        
        The evidence and facts that this correlates with the Netherlands is “ fucked “ that in turn may suggest increased criminality ?
        
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        March 29, 2018 10:54am
    - jcuk
      
      You break the cycle if you keep them in long emough
      
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      March 29, 2018 4:25pm
- Kabull
  
  I thought the reduction in crime was one of the objectives of Bill English’s Social Investment policy that everybody ridiculed. Much of what I have heard this morning just seems to be an attempt to recast National’s policy into something the COL can claim. Why don’t they (the Politicians) and their lackies (the social researchers and ‘experts’) have the honesty to acknowledge that.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:16am
- GoVege
  
  We’ll never get anywhere with low Maori achievement/ lack of work ethic/crime/violence unless we stop paying the worst elements of the Maori community (and others ) to drag up umpteen kids to satisfy the sexist demands of their culture, and then allow them to be abused, bashed, molested, half-starved, kept out of school, and taught crime.
  AND allow the abuser parents to effectively steal the money the generous taxpayers provide for the kids, and spend it on their own addictions.
  We ignore the crimes being committed against thousands of kids in this country daily, because that is difficult to prove, but as soon as the kids act out due to their appalling upbringing, we don’t hesitate to throw them in the slammer.
  A bit of early intervention is needed.
  
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  March 29, 2018 1:35pm
- Piniwi
  
  Have to laugh though GigNap15 as a new report claims the lack of equality for the natives is a $2.1 billion loss to NZ. That is about what it is costing from all the brownmail and trough fills annually for native pandering.
  
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  March 30, 2018 1:36am
kowtow

Spain is having Catalans arrested in other EU countries for “rebellion” , violence and fraud offences.

The EU bang on about democracy and equality and yet the violence we saw in Catalonia was perpetrated by state agents against citizens who only wanted their own democracy and equality.

The people who should be banged up are the EU leaders who have imported , illegally the violent hordes .

‘The series of bloody incidents over the weekend come in the wake of two murderous stabbings by refugees in recent months, at least one of which appears to have been motivated by jealousy.’

https://www.thelocal.de/20180327/string-of-knife-attacks-further-fuels-debate-over-refugees-and-violence
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March 29, 2018 9:04am
kowtow

And another one. Thanks Angela.

“His DNA was also found to match that taken from the scene of a rape that took place in nearby Rosenheim in 2015. The rape, which took place weeks after Emrah T. arrived in Germany, was similar in its brutality, with the woman also strangled before the crime.

Emrah T. arrived in Germany with his pregnant wife in 2015 and applied for asylum. He told immigration authorities that he was Syrian but it later transpired that he was a Turkish national.”

https://www.thelocal.de/20180326/trial-starts-of-asylum-seeker-over-brutal-rape-in-munichs-english-garden
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March 29, 2018 9:11am
- Rodney Randall
  
  https://www.bundeskanzlerin.de/ContentArchiv/EN/Archiv17/Artikel/_2011/01/2011-01-13-merkel-europapreis_en.html
  
  “The European Society Coudenhove-Kalergi has awarded Chancellor Angela Merkel the European Prize 2010. The prize is awarded every two years for exceptional contributions to the European ‘unification’ process.”
  
  “The European Prize is based on the vision of the diplomat, philosopher and publisher Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi. His family had its roots in several European countries. In 1922 Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi founded the Paneuropean Union, the oldest European unification movement”
  
  “They singled out in particular Angela Merkel’s crucially important contributions to ensuring stability and underpinning the future of the European project.”
  
  The European ‘project’
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:24am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    The essence of the Kalergi plan
    
    In his book «Praktischer Idealismus», Kalergi explains that the citizens of the future “United States of Europe” will not be the people of the Old Continent, but a new mixed breed, the products of thorough and widespread miscegenation. He states that the peoples of Europe should interbreed with Asians and other non-White races, to create a multiracial population, with no clear sense of tradition or identity and therefore easily controlled by the ruling elite.
    
    Kalergi proclaims the need to abolish the right of nations to self-determination and outlines the break-up of nation states through the use of ethnic separatist movements and the destruction of the nations themselves through mass migration. In order for Europe to be easily controlled by the future elite, Kalergi proposes the creation of a homogeneous mixed breed population
    
    Who should be the new elite? Kalergi is particularly illuminating on this point:
    
    “The man of the future will be of mixed race. The races and classes of today will gradually disappear due to the elimination of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-negroid race of the future, similar in appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the current diversity of peoples and the diversity of individuals. Instead of destroying European Judaism, Europe, against her will, refined and educated this people, driving them to their future status as a leading nation through this artificial evolutionary process. It’s not surprising that the people that escaped from the Ghetto-Prison, became the spiritual nobility of Europe. Thus, the compassionate care given by Europe created a new breed of aristocrats. This happened when the European feudal aristocracy crashed because of the emancipation of the Jews due to the actions taken by the French Revolution”
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:28am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Kalergi obviously hasn’t studied zoology.
      
      Even a “mixed-breed” population will eventually evolve into different communities and ultimately into nations.
      
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      March 29, 2018 5:16pm
Anne Glen Eden

I’m sick of hearing about keeping criminals, especially violent ones, out of jail because the latter teaches them to be better criminals.

There may be truth in that but it’s only one person – and even our ‘justice’ system is charged with catching them.

To leave them outside of jail means they continue to be fostered by the same family and associates who taught them to be that way in the first place. But more importantly, it enables them to multiply the behaviour geometrically as they pass it on to their own progeny and future generations.

If I have to choose between one more hardened criminal or producing several criminals, especially those who will be abused and assaulted from infancy, and their partners, I think we should opt for the one hardened criminal and keeping him/her in jail. Then, perhaps, their progeny will have a better chance at life.

The aim is to protect society. Or mine is.

Currently, we’re just abetting the breeding of deviant behaviour.
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March 29, 2018 9:41am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Anne Of Glen Eden I still maintain the importance of stopping prisons becoming schools for crime which often is the case and the problem merely gets recycled without resoulutiin .
  
  By all means lock them up but once they learn the lesson then provide worthwhile incentives for rehabilitation like apprentice training and other programs .
  
  I can assure you the very violent like William Bell have been appropriately dealt with, in his case, 33 years minimum parole ,
  
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/video/26486/william-bell
  
  And all under the Helen Clark Labour led coalition !
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:58am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The PM’s Science Advisor – NZ’s Chief Scientist – has decreed that new Prisons are not the answer.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/353616/pm-s-science-advisor-new-prisons-are-not-the-answer
    
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    March 29, 2018 11:03am
    - stephieboy
      
      MW , some of your thoughts in response the Chief Scientist ?
      
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      March 29, 2018 12:30pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        He seems to be in agreement with you.
        
        What is your experience of the NZ Prison system?
        What is /are your experience(s) of dealing with NZ criminals/prisoners/ex-prisoners?
        
        I suspect they are as limited as those of Professor Gluckman.
        
        I’m interested in the views of folks with practical evidence and experience of dealing with NZ’s criminal population.
        
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        March 29, 2018 1:05pm
EAD_TWO

From the same folks that prosecuted someone for having their Pug do “Nazi salutes”, just look at the absolute state of Police Scotland.

* Muslim rape gangs – delay investigation, ignore hundreds of victims, let offenders walk the streets.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/795387/unacceptable-legal-delays-ethnic-minority-abuse-investigation-scotland

* Anti-Muslim internet meme – go on “alert”, initiate national media campaign, involve counter-terrorism unit.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16118033.Police_on_alert_over_racist_online_craze_dubbed__Punish_a_Muslim_/
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March 29, 2018 9:42am
MrLovebucket

Any bets on what bad news the CoL will release later today to try and sneak out while everyone is focused on the long weekend?
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March 29, 2018 9:45am
stephieboy

Malmo Sweden is often touted as the Crime Capital of Sweden . But here a very different picture emerges ,

An unlikely corner of Sweden has developed a thriving Syrian food scene, courtesy of the refugees who live alongside Malmö’s resident hipster population

“The main square of Malmö’s alternative Möllevången district bursts with colour on Saturdays. The open-air market is in full force; fulsome purple aubergines are stacked proudly next to emerald fronds of coriander and stallholders complain about the weather with friends in foreign tongues. This cosmopolitan corner of Malmö has transformed in recent years from a working class area to a radically multicultural district, where hipsters and refugees rub shoulders. It’s also a hub for some of the most authentic Syrian food outside of Syria. …”

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/europe/malmo-sweden-syria-food-scene-mollevangen-market-refugees-shamiat-restaurants-a7905456.html
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March 29, 2018 9:49am
- Swifty
  
  Whoopdedoo.
  
  Syrian food is crap as well.
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:57am
  - stephieboy
    
    Swifty . and many say your peas chops and spuds or Mc Donalds is too.
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:09am
    - Swifty
      
      Peas, chops and spuds fuelled the mighty British Empire and for centuries. Can’t be all that bad.
      
      God Save the Queen!
      
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      March 29, 2018 12:20pm
    - jcuk
      
      Yes I experienced mushy peas on visit to the Uk a few years back …. disgustingly revolting to one used to fresh garden peas properly cooked to be nicely crisp.
      
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      March 29, 2018 4:36pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Syrian food for all of the Syrians, how many locals eat it in preference to their own cultural foods?
    
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    March 29, 2018 5:52pm
- Manolo
  
  You ought to be kidding, stephieboy.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:01am
  - stephieboy
    
    Manolo , no I’m not
    
    Opinion
    
    Sweden is often misunderstood. But Trump’s views subvert the truth
    
    Andrew Brown
    
    Progressives used to think everything in Sweden was perfect; now rightwingers believe it’s a crucible of Muslim violence – despite all evidence to the contrary
    
    Donald Trump’s outburst about “that thing that happened in Sweden last night” – which turned out to be a Fox News report he had seen on the difficulties of integrating refugees – is only the latest illustration of the role that Sweden plays in the fantasies of the outside world.
    
    The wonderful thing about Sweden is that you can believe what you like about it. For much of the 20th century it was a place where foreign progressives could only believe that everything ran perfectly smoothly and everyone got laid, thanks in part to the exploits of Ingrid Bergman and the Swedish arthouse film I am Curious (Yellow). In the 21st century it has become the country where foreign rightwingers can believe that nothing works and that rape is widespread.
    
    ‘JeSuisIkea’: Trump’s comments confuse Swedes as supporters cry cover-up
    Read more
    
    Trump is not the first American president to use Sweden to prove a domestic point. In 1960, the president, Dwight Eisenhower, gave a speech to a Republican breakfast meeting at which he said that Sweden “has a tremendous record for socialistic philosophy, and the record shows that their rate of suicide has gone up almost unbelievably and I think they were almost the lowest nation in the world for that. Now, they have more than twice our rate. Drunkenness has gone up. Lack of ambition is discernible on all sides”.
    This was complete nonsense, except, perhaps, for the point about
    
    drunkenness: Sweden had only abandoned prohibition-era alcohol rationing in 1955, five years before he spoke. But even though Eisenhower’s comments drew on no known Swedish sources, they were entirely harmless nonsense compared to the current president’s.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/20/sweden-donald-trump-crime-muslim-immigrants
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:08am
    - UpandComer
      
      Sweden won’t even be called Sweden in max two generations. You’re an idiot. Sweden would be better off at this stage if it was actually conquered by another country. I’m glad people like Infogalactic (the vastly better Wikipedia) are preserving knowledge about the Vikings and the Norse, because it’s all going to disappear. The reason there aren’t statistics is because their queer cultural Marxist government of insane women don’t collect any ethnicity data because it’s racist to identify all the Muslim crime. But people have extrapolated. The Guardian and it’s I’ll will be the first to don the Burka and the beard and submit, they’re foaming at the mouth at the prospect.
      
      Remember, the Swedish government are the same Quislings burning Viking artifacts and who voted 135 strong to ratify and legalise child marriages, meaning all children under 15. They have no moral mandate. They should be deposed.
      
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      March 29, 2018 10:40am
- AgainstTheFlow
  
  oh that’s a win – more choice of cuisine for hipsters and journalists.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:08am
- lifesgood
  
  LOL…you are a sucker for believing this crap. I was in Malmo on market day…ghastly place, glowering middle easterners everywhere, dark looks, sneers, litter all over the show. This is Sweden for god’s sake not some blooming back street market in Syria. I feel for the Swedes but then again they should have had balls.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:20am
- kowtow
  
  Meanwhile in the real world…..
  
  ‘Eight new districts in Sweden have been added to a high-profile police list of ‘especially vulnerable areas’, where crime rates and poverty levels are often high, reports Swedish newspaper DN.’
  
  https://www.thelocal.se/20170612/especially-vulnerable-areas-increase-in-sweden-report
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:25am
Lee C

Has anyone else been mentally noting the difference in that fresh-faced eager-Let’s-do-This! kid on the elections posters, and the haggard, evasive looking woman who is waking up to the fact that she
Just Can’t Do It?

I’m starting to feel human compassion which is more than about politics – I am starting to worry that we as a nation are going to publicly burn her as a witch, having set her up as a saint, now we will tear her to pieces.
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March 29, 2018 9:51am
- 4077th
  
  Yes, see below.. 🙂
  
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  March 29, 2018 9:54am
- Rich Prick
  
  The media have realised they can no longer ignore her incompetence so the airbrushed photos are in the bin. We’re getting the real deal now. In many ways it is a bit sad that the media hyped her beyond her ability, but the fall will always be from higher.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:00am
  - lifesgood
    
    This is completely beside the point but her top teeth and her bottom teeth are completely different colours, how odd.
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:55am
4077th

How many shit sandwiches does Ardern have to consume before she chucks in the towel? Every day it seems, a nice fresh shit sandwich is made for her..Some might even say the chef has it in for her?
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March 29, 2018 9:53am
- RF
  
  I can just see it all becoming too much for the commie chick who will play the pregnancy card in the very near future.
  
  But prior to that sure as hell she will be off to Buck house with Jethro for selfies with Lizzy.
  
  Photos that she can share with her family when they visit her at the funny farm after her exit from politics.
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:30am
  - Longknives
    
    I think she will collect the $500k on Maternity Leave for as long as she possibly can RF..
    Little Miss ‘Capitalism has Failed’ just can’t seem to grasp her own hypocrisy!…
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:40am
  - Paulus
    
    Sure she will not be going solo to the CHOGM – or with her mum ?
    
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    March 29, 2018 1:32pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Aren’t allowed to fly in lat pregnancy I thought. So better get a wriggle on.
    
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    March 29, 2018 6:23pm
- Poppa
  
  She clearly is not up to it. I have not the slightest bit of sympathy.
  
  In the first 3 months all she did was trip around smiling & waving & splashing cash around.
  
  Then the serious work started & oops it is too hard
  
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  March 29, 2018 12:03pm
Anne Glen Eden

Another pet hate is the ranting about gun control in the US. It seems Americans should aspire to the ‘nirvana’ that is NZ society.

Our society, using the analogy of boxing, is like any two protagonists in a ring, with no referee, in which no-one else is allowed to interfere.

The first can be any age from infancy up, completely untrained, unfit, and unprepared especially because they don’t want to be there in the first place. They are completely bound by the Marquess of Queensbury rules and liable for prosecution if the contravene them.

The second is a mature, any size, graduate of a free for all, no holds barred, Fight Club – on P, and while bound by the same rules, as there’s no intervention allowed, they have free licence.

They will, eventually, be censured at which point society will say, “Well, we shouldn’t remove their freedom because this will make them harder”, leaving them free to keep ‘fighting’.

No-one in the boxing world would consider that ‘fair’ or ‘sporting’. But NZ society thinks it’s fair for every single citizen of every age.

Anytime some in society think of a way to protect themselves, the Police warn them against ‘vigilanteism’.

I understand totally why some are asking for gun control in the US, but I think Americans would be seriously stupid to give up ‘the right to bear arms’. At least they are allowed to defend themselves, as they should be.

If we had the same rights, perhaps we’d have less crowded jails.
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March 29, 2018 9:57am
GoVege

Let’s hope there will be plenty of support offered for the poor farmers having to euthanize 22,000 cows and calves in the next few weeks.
How nice to see the powers to be acknowledging the affection farmers feel for their cows, instead of just referring to them as “stock units”/whatever.
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March 29, 2018 10:10am
- Rachael Membery
  
  At least they can go into the food chain and not just be culled.
  
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  March 29, 2018 6:26pm
Fletch

So, it turns out that only 10% of those involved in this anti-gun march were teenagers. Just the usual anti-Trumpers, I would guess.

Contrary to what’s been reported in many media accounts, the D.C. March for Our Lives crowd was not primarily made up of teenagers. Only about 10 percent of the participants were under 18. The average age of the adults in the crowd was just under 49 years old, which is older than participants at the other marches I’ve surveyed but similar to the age of the average participant at the Million Moms March in 2000, which was also about gun control.

Even more interesting, the new protesters were less motivated by the issue of gun control. In fact, only 12 percent of the people who were new to protesting reported that they were motivated to join the march because of the gun-control issue, compared with 60 percent of the participants with experience protesting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/03/28/heres-who-actually-attended-the-march-for-our-lives-no-it-wasnt-mostly-young-people/
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March 29, 2018 10:11am
- Gravelroad
  
  How many people watch movies and TV programmes where guns are routinely used?
  Not to mention all the video games where “players” can shoot and kill people using firearms.
  There is a heck of a lot of pious hypocrisy around this issue. Marching against guns. ..ffftt.
  
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  March 29, 2018 11:41am
  - jcuk
    
    Why I blame Hollywood et al for the problem though it started much earlier with the wild west.
    
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    March 29, 2018 4:56pm
Fletch

Anti-gun lobbyists often point to Australia’s “ban” of guns after the Port Arthur massacre as some kind of success, but it turns out that Ozzie has more guns now than ever and huge increase in firearms offences.

Australians may be more at risk from gun crime than ever before with the country’s underground market for firearms ballooning in the past decade.

Previously unseen police statistics show that the number of pistol-related offences doubled in Victoria and rose by 300 per cent in New South Wales. At least two other states also saw a massive jump in firearms-related offences during the same period.

The statistics detail the types of firearms offences police have pursued in the courts in the past decade and show some concerning findings, including a massive 83 per cent increase in firearms offences in NSW between 2005/06 and 2014/15, and an even bigger jump in Victoria over the same period.

Our investigation found:

• NSW: in 2014-15, there were 3463 firearms charges, up 83 per cent on 2005-06

• Victoria: in 2014-15, there were 3645 firearms-related charges, up 85 per cent on 2005-06

• SA: in 2014, charges for possession and trafficking of guns are up 49 per cent on 2010-11

• Tasmania: in 2014, charges for unlawful gun possession were up 32 per cent on 2005-06

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2015/11/10/australias-secret-gun-problem-exposed/
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March 29, 2018 10:15am
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , I’m note so sure about that but all I can say both Australia and NZ have no school or Las Vegas type mass shootings .
  
  Now we have to be doing something right . Surely ?
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:28am
  - Longknives
    
    Both Australia and New Zealand have had Mass Shootings Stephieboy.
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:33am
    - stephieboy
      
      Fletch , at your disingenuous best .
      
      At high schools like Columbine or Parklands or preschools like Sandy Hook .
      
      Or on the scale of say Las Vegas and Orlando ??
      
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      March 29, 2018 12:14pm
      - Jack5
        
        Just by luck a young Muslim has been prevented from mowing down people by car in Christchurch – last month.
        
        We don’t want more Muslims in New Zealand.
        
        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/02/radicalised-new-zealand-teen-planned-terror-attack-in-christchurch.html
        
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        March 29, 2018 3:41pm
      - jcuk
        
        What country did the Aramoana shooter come from?
        
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        March 29, 2018 4:59pm
  - 4077th
    
    Yes, of course, lets just tear up the nations founding document because you and a few others say so. I wonder what these same lobbyists would say if the 5th amendment was changed or any other that protects the average man/woman? FFS, enough of the TDS and the SJW bullshit. Turn off CNN and get a life!
    
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    March 29, 2018 11:45am
UpandComer

http://voxday.blogspot.com.au/2018/03/the-mystery-of-us-inequality.html?m=1

Analysis of why and when the US Gini coefficient turned from a northern European profile to a southern American one. Right around the 60s, just before a 45 year continuous reduction of the average wage. Ugo Bardi can’t quite bring himself to to connect his network effects where they belong.

It’s interesting. Chris Trotter just wrote a piece on Genter and the other Greens. He said they aren’t socialist. Because they don’t focus on class, only identity. It was very direct actually. It was about as far probably any male on the left has gone certainly in New Zealand to address the nonsense being peddled by leftie women.

I think Chris Trotter might almost be ready.
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March 29, 2018 10:34am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Where is the Trotter article?
  
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  March 29, 2018 11:49am
  - UpandComer
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/102579202/gender-diversity-easier-to-campaign-for-than-class-diversity
    
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    March 29, 2018 11:54am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      Thanks U&C – it did my head in regardless. Typical class struggle bullshit from Trotter vs SJW marxism of Genter. I love it when the left turn on each other like that.
      
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      March 29, 2018 12:27pm
- KiWombat
  
  The Yank Skank has been keeping her head down this week, probably hoping that all the other issues the government is having to cover up will push her indiscretions down the list into oblivion !
  
  Poor deluded fool – your turn will come !
  
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  March 29, 2018 12:25pm
Longknives

I’m going to grow my hair long, slap on some lippy, change my name to ‘Sheena’ and have a crack at the next Olympics!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12002309

https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2018/03/a-level-playing-field/

Honestly- A few weeks ago this person was competing as a bloke. Now he/she/whatever is dominating the Women’s division!
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March 29, 2018 10:35am
- Nev.
  
  A mere 30 years ago we were throwing Russians out of the Olympics for doing what is now accepted as “diversity inclusive”
  Nev.
  
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  March 29, 2018 11:02am
- UpandComer
  
  It’s going to be amazing in fifty years, barring re-conquista or the imposition of the Caliphate, when all women’s sport is being performed by men.
  
  I wonder if third wave neo-feminists will say anything then, purple haired destructive trash receptacle intellectual black holes that they are.
  
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  March 29, 2018 11:57am
- dime
  
  thats hilarious.
  
  watch the lefties destroy womens sport!
  
  trannies rights are more important than womens rights
  
  BAHAHAHAHAHA
  
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  March 29, 2018 2:25pm
Gravelroad

Many very nasty, bitter comments on Stuff today in response to Stephen Joyce’s farewell speech.
That’s one thing you can rely on from the socialists: that chip on the shoulder, slagging people off for being successful and earning a pension mentality.
As for Peters – to quote Hillary Clinton, he is deplorable.
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March 29, 2018 11:00am
- Longknives
  
  Nobody could ever accuse Winston of being a Class Act…that’s for sure!
  
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  March 29, 2018 11:43am
Rodney Randall

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/26/mireille-knoll-holocaust-survivor-killed-in-paris-/

https://twitter.com/hashtag/MarcheBlanche?src=hash

Holocaust survivor killed in Paris during anti-Semitic attack
Head of Jewish organization: ‘She was absolutely massacred. Eleven knife wounds’

“Francis Kalifat, the head of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions of France, told reporters that the main suspect is of North African origin.”

Seems like ‘cultural’ relations are at an all time high in France:)
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March 29, 2018 11:07am
- Inandout
  
  Another brave Muslim slime ball here, attacking such an old lady. France will suffer before it realises it has let the curse of Islam get out of control.
  
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  March 29, 2018 12:00pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Another important, (this time) Jewish ‘contribution’ ensuring the stability underpinning the future of the European ‘project’.
    
    Filed away as ‘Collateral damage’/diversity ‘dividend’
    
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    March 29, 2018 1:10pm
  - GoVege
    
    What about those brave Isis guys who were plotting to kill 4 year old Prince George?
    
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    March 29, 2018 6:14pm
MrLovebucket

Jacinda on the nurses strike.

“There’s not going to be a nurses strike. I know this because I watch every episode of Shorty Street and I’ve never seen nurses complain about pay. I’m probably going to make Dr Warner a Minister for Doctors or something, just to make sure.”
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March 29, 2018 11:27am
- Longknives
  
  I heard that Jacinda’s latest ‘Working group’ involved interviewing lots of Student Nurses- And that none other than our beloved ‘First Bloke’ Clark Gayford himself heard this and selflessly volunteered to take time out from his busy schedule (Fishing and making almond milk) to assist with these ‘interviews’..
  Such is the dedication and commitment of this incredible Government- What a Team!
  
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  March 29, 2018 11:42am
  - RF
    
    Do you know if he was soaking his nuts in warm milk whilst interviewing the nurses.
    
    It would be a sight to behold…
    
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    March 29, 2018 10:05pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Surely you mean “extracting milk from his nuts” …. Almonds don’t milk themselves.
      
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      March 29, 2018 11:51pm
Manolo

Battle of the giants:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/28/facebook-apple-tim-cook-zuckerberg-business-model

Apple’s chief executive, Tim Cook, issued a harsh rebuke of Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook’s business model on Wednesday, saying that detailed profiles of individuals compiled by internet platforms should not exist.
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March 29, 2018 11:38am
- Ed Snack
  
  Yes, it is interesting that the MSM usually just lump Apple in with Google, Facebook, and Amazon; but unlike those Apple dominates no market (segments in markets and maybe the electronic watch market excluded), and has a pretty good record on privacy and non-usage of users’ private information.
  
  You could regulate against a monopoly or near monopoly, but how would you regulate against what is just a market preference in certain segments ?
  
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  March 29, 2018 12:25pm
Right of way is Way of Right

Parliamentary Question Time, question one is the normal question asked of the PM, Does she stand by all her statements and actions.

One difference, Judith Collins is asking it!

Pass the popcorn.

Melissa Lee has another crack at Claire Curran in question 10 as well, now she’s eviscerating the cover up!
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March 29, 2018 12:00pm
- KiWombat
  
  Melissa has to keep it up for another week or two. There is more to be uncovered yet. Why a Minister would circumvent the system so deliberately and meet with the wrong person in a clandestine manner just reeks.
  
  There was another motive to her meeting, it appears blindingly obvious to me, but the Minister threw CH under the bus anyway !
  
  Watch this space !
  
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  March 29, 2018 12:30pm
  - Poppa
    
    There will be another wound inflicted today, possibly not a mortal one…..yet
    
    Melissa is like a cat with a mouse, & the cat has the mouse cornered
    
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    March 29, 2018 1:44pm
stephieboy

Stormy Daniels seeks Trump testimony on her sex claims

Adult-film star Stormy Daniels has filed a court motion for US President Donald Trump to testify about her claim that they had a relationship.

Her lawyer wants sworn testimony from Mr Trump about a “hush” agreement the actress says she signed.

The attorney, Michael Avenatti, is also seeking a legal interview with the president’s lawyer.

Ms Daniels alleges she had unprotected sex with Mr Trump in 2006 a year after he married Melania Trump. He denies it.
Mr Avenatti’s motion, filed in a court in the Central District of California early on Wednesday, ramps up the legal duel between the porn star and the president.

Ms Daniels says she signed an agreement to keep quiet about her claims in exchange for $US130,000 of “hush” money in October 2016, days before the White House election…”.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/353647/stormy-daniels-seeks-trump-testimony-on-her-sex-claims

However I guess thanks to his supporters this kind of behaviour has become the new moral norm for world leaders .
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March 29, 2018 12:15pm
- 4077th
  
  Rich guy manages to get it on with a busty porn star. Some might say that was win!
  
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  March 29, 2018 12:54pm
- kowtow
  
  At least Trump banged a consenting adult.
  
  Mohammed banged minors and slaves.
  
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  March 29, 2018 1:43pm
- dime
  
  “Adult-film star ”
  
  lol lefties trying to make her sound legit
  
  how bout
  
  “drug addled skank who takes shots in the face on film, stormy daniels…”
  
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  March 29, 2018 2:27pm
  - Kimbo
    
    I’m not sure it would fit on her business card! ?
    
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    March 29, 2018 3:07pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      On her business card? Isn’t that a bit unusual? Saves on make-up though I guess.
      
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      March 29, 2018 3:24pm
  - stigie
    
    She’s had more facials than Winston’s had Jack Daniels !~
    
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    March 29, 2018 4:08pm
- 4077th
  
  “this kind of behaviour has become the new moral norm for world leaders”
  
  I think Silvio Burlousconi currently holds that title Stephie.. 🙂
  
  Trump is a buddhist monk by comparison.
  
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  March 29, 2018 5:19pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  You just love talking about that silicon-titted attention whore, don’t you SB.
  Do you have a point to make or is it just a personal fetish?
  
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  March 29, 2018 10:31pm
- GazzaW
  
  Jeez stephie where’s ya bin? Trolls on KB are as rare as rocking horse shit these days.
  
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  March 29, 2018 11:20pm
Ed Snack

Nope, wee Willie Clinton set that bar so low no one since has come close to changing the qualifying status.

Hey, maybe we could get someone on the Trump team to talk about “dragging a $100 bill through a trailer park” just to add some verisimilitude to to comparison with WJC and his team ?
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March 29, 2018 12:28pm
- Paulus
  
  J F Kennedy was the real sexual President – the others were amateurs.
  
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  March 29, 2018 1:35pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yep, Marilyn Monroe.
    Bet all you old, white men are/were jealous.
    
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    March 29, 2018 1:57pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      I used to correspond with a nice old engineer who dated her pre-fame.
      
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      March 29, 2018 11:56pm
stephieboy

Ed Snack , I don’t think even Bill could match him . Especially in the divorce count and not also forgetting questionable rape allegations .
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March 29, 2018 12:46pm
- 4077th
  
  “Questionable rape allegations” indeed stephie. No motivation at all to see the president impeached?
  
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  March 29, 2018 12:58pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Of course you are right, there’s nothing questionable about the rape allegations against Bill Clinton. And the Republicans would never have thought about paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to women to make allegations against WJC.
  
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  March 29, 2018 1:07pm
BananaLlama

Anyone else here concerned with how the UK is sliding into an Orwellian police state?
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March 29, 2018 1:00pm
- kowtow
  
  I’m amazed they still keep voting for the two main culprit parties.
  
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  March 29, 2018 1:45pm
Manolo

Would the Greens and stephieboy welcome into NZ scum like this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5553847/Violent-deportee-flees-JFK-airport-taxi.html

A ‘violent’ Senegalese man who was supposed to be deported on Tuesday escaped federal agents at New York City’s JFK Airport, then fled the terminal in a taxi.

Reports state that Mohamadou Lamine Mbacke, 31, flew into New York from Detroit, where he was scheduled to depart Tuesday night on a flight to his home country.
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March 29, 2018 1:19pm
- Inandout
  
  If this mongrel can make it to Mayor Bloomberg’s office he will give him safe haven, that is how loony safe haven states have become. It is noted by Tucker that those who make these diversity laws live in very expensive suburbs, away from the ‘dreamers’. Typical NIMBYs.
  
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  March 29, 2018 1:45pm
- Albert_Ross
  
  There is no reason to think they would, on the basis of what either has said.
  
  Arguing that Muslims should not be excluded simply because they are Muslims, regardless of whatever merits they have – is not at all the same as arguing that Muslims should be welcomed simply because they are Muslims, regardless of whatever faults they have.
  
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  March 29, 2018 2:47pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Muslims belong in muslim countries.
    
    They will never change from their religion, not that I want them to.
    
    They cause problems where ever they go.
    
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    March 29, 2018 3:22pm
Inandout

Ed Sheeran is causing traffic jams in Southland. Do the Dunedin resident Muslims realise Sheeran talks of Christianity, and is possibly Jewish?
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March 29, 2018 1:50pm
- kowtow
  
  Sheeran’s a fucking Mick and wid a name like dat he’d be at least by descent a Left Footer, weren’t many Jews in Wexford back in the day.
  
  But yes traffic is pretty bad here in Daft Dunners today, even worse that the usual council created chaos.
  
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  March 29, 2018 4:04pm
  - Inandout
    
    RCs are Christian apparently.
    
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    March 29, 2018 5:02pm
    - kowtow
      
      But not Jewish
      
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      March 29, 2018 6:42pm
Jack5

More billion dollar estimates – benefits of sports events like the America’s Cup, and now costs of Maori performance in education …

“Inequalities in education, employment and income for Maori are costing the New Zealand economy $2.6 billion a year – and, if the issue isn’t fixed it will increase every year to reach $4.3 billion by 2040.”

So claims a report from a joint report from Business and Economic Research Ltd (BERL), Ngai Tahu, and the Maori Futures Collective.

Stuff says the report puts a dollar value on inequality and how it creates an economic loss for Maori.

Co-writer of the report is Eruera Tarena, from the Maori Futures Collective. Tarena is the first Ph. D. graduate from the Ngai Tahu Research Centre at Canterbury University.

The Ngai Tahu web site quotes Tarena’s principal Ph.D. adviser, Venkataraman Nilakant, a Canterbury University management lecturer,as saying:

““Eru was an ideal student. He did not have any background in management when he started his thesis. I gave him a set of difficult books to read on organisation design and theory and I wasn’t sure how he would cope with complex ideas in organisation theory without the background.

“He astounded me by mastering the material in a few weeks. He was probably more knowledgeable about organisation theory than most of our Commerce students.”

An internet blurb notes Tarena is a graduate of Te Panekiretanga Centre for Excellence in Te Reo, and also has a master’s degree in Maori oral traditions.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/102643651/inequality-depriving-mori-and-the-economy-of-26b-every-year
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March 29, 2018 3:35pm
plc

I see that Darren Hughes was back in the country at the opening of the Top Twins Exhibition at the National Library (not sure on what basis it was created).

Lovely photo of him with the Topp Twins, Aunty Helen and the current Speaker of the House.

Wonder if he stopped by the Young Labour camp on the way.

Great to see a sex offender rehabilitated into the Labour fold so easily….sorry alleged sex offender.
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March 29, 2018 3:42pm
- lifesgood
  
  What a bloody disgrace.
  
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  March 29, 2018 4:42pm
GazzaW

Gerry Brownlee has questioned Hipkins in his capacity as Leader of the House why written questions made five weeks ago have not yet been answered by the Ministers responsible. Answers are required within five days. Does this represent total dysfunctionality or outright laziness or both?
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March 29, 2018 3:44pm
- mandk
  
  Be fair GazzaW, the CoL needs more time because it has to look high and low for anyone who can read the questions and write the answers.
  
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  March 29, 2018 3:49pm
stigie

Could anyone watching today understand what Peters was talking about when answering questions..?
What a fucking disgrace he is to parliament and the public of NZ !~
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March 29, 2018 4:17pm
- mandk
  
  Peters seems to be able to get away with giving smart-arse answers at the moment, but I wonder if he will be able to get away with it when Jacinda is on leave inventing motherhood.
  
  I hope he doesn’t, but he does have the Speaker bending over backwards to protect the CoL.
  
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  March 29, 2018 4:25pm
  - GazzaW
    
    The arrogant prick was answering today on behalf of the PM as well as Minister of Foreign Affairs. Both roles demand a modicum of good manners and eloquence – qualities that Winston Peters clearly lacks. He will get his come-uppance when acting as PM once the public beyond the Wellington beltway become aware of his ill manners and boorishness.
    
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    March 29, 2018 4:42pm
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  Now look here Sunshine, I object to your insinuation on this matter. Don’t you understand the facts…
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  March 29, 2018 4:44pm
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    The fact is…im going to sue you !~
    
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    March 29, 2018 4:48pm
GazzaW

Watching QT today one can only guess at what more information the Opposition has yet to reveal about the Hirschfeld issue and and the Russian spies. It seems to be Opposition tactics to just continue to feed ’em enough rope…………..
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March 29, 2018 4:36pm
- Brigitte
  
  And they all got a bit bored by time Q12 came around, as evidenced by this:
  
  Rt Hon Winston Peters: May I ask the Minister, in answering these questions, has she seen someone stand on a rake and have the handle hit them in the chin?
  
  Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: Yes.
  
  Mr SPEAKER: Order! I’m trying to work out whether it would be a punishment to give—who it would be a punishment to if I gave further supplementaries. I think I’ll just leave it where it is.
  
  Hon Gerry Brownlee: Well, I would certainly take them, but I think it was—
  
  Mr SPEAKER: Well, the member can have another one, then.
  
  Hon Gerry Brownlee: Well, thank you, because it was very odd that the Rt Hon Winston Peters should stand up and talk about his own answers in the House today.
  
  Mr SPEAKER: And—
  
  Hon Gerry Brownlee: We just lost it.
  
  Mr SPEAKER: Yeah, at that point—
  
  Hon Gerry Brownlee: I know, yeah.
  
  Mr SPEAKER: —the member just lost it.
  
  Hon Gerry Brownlee: Thank you. It was worth a shot. Mr Speaker—
  
  Mr SPEAKER: Order! Order! And he just lost another one.
  
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  March 29, 2018 4:39pm
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    Well thats just outrageous 🙂
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:27pm
- 4077th
  
  Yes, that and Genter was clueless when speaking for the minister of health. Tried to bat her eyelids at Mallard and fell on her face. Funny as fuck!
  
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  March 29, 2018 5:09pm
  - KiWombat
    
    The sooner the yank skank moves on to the next country on her world tour the better !
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:41pm
- 4077th
  
  Indeed, as I mentioned in another post, Lee is watching Curran construct her own gallows, one plank and one nail at a time. It’s a masterclass in delivering a very public spanking every day at the same time in the public square.
  
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  March 29, 2018 5:15pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  And who will Hirchfield’s replacement be?
  
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  March 29, 2018 6:52pm
  - KiWombat
    
    Hirchfeld was being preened as the replacement !
    
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    March 29, 2018 9:42pm
Anne Glen Eden

Before it disappears completely, I support the calls by Robert Love and Consumer NZ for an inquiry into Aged Care.

It’s been a while since my life was largely dedicated to protecting my mother from that industry – but that’s exactly what my experience with it was.

I confess, the worst trouble began when new owners bought the facility she was in and overnight, all the European staff were gone. That isn’t to say that European staff are better, but I really don’t understand why cultural sensitivity applies to everyone but Europeans. She thought she’d been ill and someone sent her from the hospital to the wrong place.

I could say the food was appalling – two small triangles of bread with a railway cup of soup for lunch, occasionally interspersed with raw salad vegetables she didn’t have the teeth to chew. Or the desert that most residents rejected of a small bowl of unflavoured boiled sago, underneath which sat a tablespoon of golden syrup. Or that she had to eat in her room because the request to give her more food meant she couldn’t be allowed into the dining room where others could see it.

I used to take bags of fruit and drop some into all the rooms on my way to see her. One woman cried when I gave her a banana, it was so long since she’d seen fruit.

There was the see-sawing about her doctor. Every moment I was out of sight, they changed that to the facility doctor. Her real doctor would respond to her – the other guy wouldn’t. This resulted, at one point when she was complaining of back pain and was being ignored, with her real doctor getting a mobile xray which established she had broken vertebrae and treating her.

Or there was the time that, after 50 years of being prescribed tranquillisers (erroneously in my opinion), already mucked about enough with frequent changes of inadequate generics, the facility doctor decided he should find out what she was like without them. What I found was a woman sitting on the side of her bed, weeping piteously.

My questioning of his strategy got the response of, “How dare you question my judgement!” “Easily,” said I.

So many other experiences…. Yes. There should definitely be an inquiry into aged-care. They exist, whether it’s convenient or not and are increasing in numbers. Just because people are vulnerable is not a good reason to ill-treat them.

But one thing is for sure and it’s the same with abused children. Families need to be taking much more responsibility for ensuring appropriate care is given – like Robert Love.
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March 29, 2018 5:00pm
Viking2

IRD releases ‘ring-fencing’ paper; Revenue Minister encourages feedback on proposal to ensure investors can’t offset losses on property investments against other income.

Revenue Minister Stuart Nash, in “encouraging feedback” on the proposed changes, says the “persistent tax losses” that many property investors declare on their investments indicate that they rely on capital gains to make a profit..

The changes will “make the tax system fairer” Nash says.

This move had been widely signalled by the Government and follows on from changes to the bright-line test, extending the period at which capital gains on sale of investment properties are taxable from two to five years.

“In conjunction with the recently announced extension to the bright-line test, ring-fencing losses from rental properties would make property speculation less attractive and level the playing field between property investors and home buyers. The time is right to test the detail of this proposal with investors and other stakeholders,” Nash says.

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/92896/ird-releases-ring-fencing-paper-revenue-minister-encourages-feedback-proposal-ensure

Another nail in the coffin. Who is going to invest in any property where rent is collected?
This will nail even people like MacDonalds, private investors with one or two houses. It will also push interest rates down further. No one will want the money.
Stupid stupid stupid.
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March 29, 2018 5:06pm
EAD_TWO

With the Easter break now officially upon us and we go into the period of remembering Christ’s execution (@ the hands of the Pharisees) & subsequent resurrection, this is a timely read around the societal taboos amd faux hysteria that greets anyone who comments on the behaviour of Jews in all but the most flattering of terms:

http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-globalists-love-gefilte-fish/

abridged:

“Our grandparents faced a quandary when they had to describe some body parts or physical activity. The ‘obscene words’ remained taboo at least until D.H. Lawrence broke the prohibition in Lady Chatterley’s Lover, and the four-letter words became printable only recently. However, now we have new banned words, or words one can use only at one’s own peril.

‘The Jews’ is such a word. Speaking about the Jews is fraught with consequences. Jews do not like to be referred to, unless in extremely flattering terms. You are likely to be banned in Facebook and other social networks for referring to ‘Jews’. You can be fired. Even a hundred years ago it was a troublesome step, likely to cause social ostracism.

Therefore, there is a permanent demand for euphemisms.

– “Semite” is an early and enduring euphemism of the 19th century which is still with us thanks to “anti-Semitism”.
The Clergy prefer to write ‘Masons’ instead of ‘Jews’.
– ‘Khazar’ or ‘Khazarian’ is popular in the networks, thanks to Arthur Koestler, the author of The Thirteenth Tribe. He claimed modern Jews were the descendants of the Turkic Khazars who were Judaised in 12th century.
– The nickname ‘Ashkenazi’ originally referred to the Jews of Central Europe; the East European Jews of Lithuanian and Ukrainian origin gladly accepted it despite the German Jews’ objections. Nowadays it is just an euphemism for a Jew, with an extra bonus: not-very-prominent (outside trade and money) Oriental Jews will gladly join in Ashkenazi denunciation.
– ‘Zionist’ is a popular term of use and abuse, as in “Jews are fine, it is Zionists whom I dislike”.
– “Reptilian” or ‘Illuminati’ are the words used when all the rest fail.

There is one big problem with these words. They clearly show that you are afraid to write the J word. And they know how to deal with frightened persons. It is enough to murmur in response, “It’s an antisemitic slur”, and the guy will collapse in a paroxysm of denial. There is a second problem: it makes very little sense to call the Bolshevik Jews “Zionists.”

The Jews themselves have proposed a few euphemisms of their own: ‘Hebrews’ or ‘Israelites’ were the preferred ones, but they didn’t make much inroad in the English-speaking world. However, ‘Hebrews’ became the official designation of Jews in Russia, while the ‘Jews’ moniker had been outlawed, though it survived in Poland and the Ukraine.

Now the US has produced a new word: “globalists.” The Huffington Post called the tweet of Donald Trump about the dismissal of “globalist Gary Cohen” – anti-Semitic. It turns out that a “globalist” is just a Jew. For example, globalists like gefilte fish.

This neologism pleased Ann Coulter, and she amused her numerous readers with her tweets: “Paul Newman is only half globalist,” “How many globalists came under the distribution in the fight against male assault and harassment!”, “Israel is the last refuge of globalists.” These Tweets received thousands of likes and reposts, and caused an angry condemnation … of globalists.

Sums it up pretty – Political Correctness is essentially Semitical Correctness.

It’s Jews using other minorities as protection layers. You can’t name reality because ultimately it would lead you to naming those at the centre of it all.
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March 29, 2018 5:35pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  It’s quite noticeable recently just how feverishly the MSM is getting in naming the Russian or naming the White for all sorts of crimes real or imagined (pretty much all the latter).
  
  It’s quite the contrast isn’t it to naming the Jew whereby even Donald Trump using the word “Globalist” sends the Jewish Media into a frenzy.
  
  https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/what-does-the-term-globalist-mean-when-it-comes-to-jews-gary-cohn-donald-trump-1.461072
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/03/09/trump-called-gary-cohn-a-globalist-heres-why-some-people-find-that-offensive/?utm_term=.bc1a79d30876
  
  It is just as true now as it was when Voltaire uttered the immortal words – “To learn who rules over you, first learn who you’re not allowed to criticise”
  
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  March 29, 2018 6:48pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Jacinda? She maketh that a fallacy,
    
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    March 29, 2018 6:57pm
Gravelroad

Have just watched today’s Parliamentary question time.
Genter was trying to answer a question on behalf of another minister. If her effort is typical of the general standard of ability and intelligence we have in government, we are indeed in very big trouble.
Genter came across as an overgrown school kid. She was totally floundering and had to be rescued by Speaker Mallard and coached by the ghastly smirking Eugenie Sage who was sitting next to her.
It was an absolute disgrace – and we are paying for this?
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March 29, 2018 6:47pm
Hugh Pavletich

… MORE SCREWS ON PROPERTY SPECULATORS …

REINZ welcomes the bright-line passing its third reading | Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1803/S00400/reinz-welcomes-the-bright-line-passing-its-third-reading.htm

REINZ welcomes the bright-line passing its third reading, but more supply still needed

The Real Estate Institute of New Zealand (REINZ) welcomes the fact that the Taxation (Annual Rates for 2017–18, Employment and Investment Income, and Remedial Matters) Bill passed its third reading in parliament last night in relation to the bright-line test. However, the housing shortage still remains an issue that needs solving immediately.

The Taxation Bill will see the bright-line test on residential property sales extended from two years to five years. … read more via hyperlink above …
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IRD releases ‘ring-fencing’ paper; Revenue Minister encourages feedback on proposal to ensure investors can’t offset losses on property investments against other income | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/92896/ird-releases-ring-fencing-paper-revenue-minister-encourages-feedback-proposal-ensure

By David Hargreaves

The Government’s progressing its plans to ‘ring-fence’ investors’ losses on residential properties as it continues its push against property speculation.

An Issues Paper has been released by the Inland Revenue Department on the proposal to change the rules in what the Government says is “an effort to level the playing field between speculators and investors – and home buyers”.

IRD is proposing that the new rules will apply from the 2019-20 tax year and will mean that investors will no longer be able to offset losses on property investments against their other income. It’s not definite yet that the new rules will be applied in entirety from April 1 next year as the IRD says it would be possible to phase the rules in over a two or three year period (by gradually reducing the amount of losses that can be applied against other income). However, the IRD appears to favour applying the rules in entirety from next year. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Housing – New Zealand Labour Party

http://www.labour.org.nz/housing

… extract …

Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out

Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds.

JUST TWO QUESTIONS …

1. When are the Auckland Urban Limits to be abolished ?

2. When is bond financing of infrastructure to be introduced nationally ?
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/nzs-housing-shortgage-worsens-despite-immigration-pullback-2/#comment-3078592 … and …
  
  Why has a generation given up on having children? … UK Telegraph
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/family/has-generation-given-having-children/
  
  … extract …
  
  … “My wife and I are currently living with my parents while we try to save up for the deposit on a flat,” says Neil, a 38-year-old project manager, whose partner Vicky, a yoga therapist, is 37. “Yet since we got married last year, we’re being continually asked when we’re going to have kids. We’d be crazy to consider parenthood before we have our own place.”
  
  Millennials earn £8000 less during their 20s than the previous generation, are at risk of being the first cadre of workers in modern times to see their lifetime earnings fall and can expect to spend more than £40,000 more on rent by the age of 30 than our parents, according to a study by the Resolution Foundation. UK buyers now need to save for an average of 24 years to get on the property ladder. Britain’s housing shortage is so acute that the average age for a first-time house buyer is 38 years-old, and that age is expected to rise to 41 by 2025, according to financial services firm London Victoria.
  
  The lack of affordable housing has an increasingly far-reaching effect on our personal lives. One in five people under 45 surveyed by YouGov said they had experienced a delay finding a job because of the housing crisis, while 16 per cent said they had postponed getting married, and 22 per cent said they had put off having children because of their housing situation. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  March 29, 2018 7:31pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Why did you just reply to your own comments on a day old thread arsehole?
    
    Such a sad git.
    
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    March 29, 2018 8:54pm
nasska

Young people…

You choose to rent your shows/films from Netflix, Amazon or Sky.

You choose to rent your music from Spotify.

You choose to rent your phones by contracts.

You choose to rent your cars by HP or lease.

You choose to rent your student flat.

You choose to borrow money for uni

And what do you complain about?

Not owning a house.
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March 29, 2018 7:49pm
Rodney Randall

interesting 2015 article on EU and Soros’ refugee plans.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/616541/European-Union-Migrants-Refugees-George-Soros-Hungary-Viktor-Orban-Europe

Billionaire EU supporter tells Europe to take in at least a million refugees every year

In the statement Mr Soros called on the EU to create a new border control, whereby it “has to accept at least a million asylum-seekers annually for the foreseeable future”.

He said: “Adequate financing is critical. The EU should provide £10,000 (€15,000) per asylum-seeker for each of the first two years to help cover housing, health care, and education costs – and to make accepting refugees more appealing to member states.”

Mr Soros also said that it is important to “place refugees where they want to go”.

Unfortunately for the idea of multiculturalism and multiracialism, it is Jews who are the primary target of Muslim immigrant violence in Europe and, soon enough, in the USA.
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March 29, 2018 7:56pm
noskire

It’s been such a fun week watching this train-wreck unravel. Here’s Part 1 of my Easter present for the next question-time:
Does the Deputy-Prime Minister, and Minister of Foreign Affairs recall an evening meeting with a student from the then Southland Polytechnic in Invercargill in April 2004?
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March 29, 2018 9:13pm
RF

Bingo…. I have just heard a song that sums up the commie chick.

From the Sound of Music sung by Julie Andrews to the children……… “My favorite things”

It’s perfect.
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March 29, 2018 9:53pm
VicParking

Headless chicken survives for a week
Headless cow has survives for over 100 days
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March 29, 2018 9:56pm
Manolo

The bugger cannot stop peddling myth and writing fiction:
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/pope-francis-there-no-hell
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March 30, 2018 6:25am
Monique Watson

For all those playing golf over Easter:

Two Mexican detectives were investigating the murder of Juan Gonzalez.

‘How was he killed?’ asked one detective.

‘With a golf gun,’ the other detective replied.

‘A golf gun? What’s a golf gun?’

‘I don’t know, but it sure made a hole in Juan.’
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