General Debate 22 March 2018

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Captain Mainwaring

The idiot Shane Jones got a whack over the head yesterday from Jacinda (and rightfully so) for his stupid attack on Air New Zealand Management.
He didn’t seem to take any notice however, because he was back on attack on the 6pm news. What a fucking clown.
If Comrade Stardust doesn’t now remove this self-promoting buffoon from his Cabinet Minister position before lunchtime today she will have failed her first big test of leadership.
Sorry, second. I forgot about the Young Labour sex and booze camp.
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March 22, 2018 8:00am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Strike Three, Charter Schools?
  Strike Four, Russia?
  Strike Five……
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:03am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Strike Five….. Shutting down oil and gas production
    Strike Six…..
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:09am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Be honest…. how many of you, when you heard about this threat to our oil & gas industry thought “oh that’s silly, they wouldn’t possibly do that ” and then just put it out of their minds?
      
      Well, I’ve got news for you. An unelected government has taken control of our country and one of their factions is actively fighting for exactly this, while another of them is prepared to seriously consider its implementation.
      
      There were probably millions of Chinese who thought Mao’s agrarian revolution was too silly an idea to be taken seriously and millions of Germans who thought the same about confiscating people’s homes and making them wear yellow stars….. the list goes on.
      
      New Zealand, be afraid. This is real and it’s happening here. Welcome to the Third World.
      
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      March 22, 2018 11:59am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Professor Jordan Peterson was asked how long before it was too late to pull back from the chosen direction of the left to head toward Marxism. He gives us approx 3 years to change direction before indoctrination of society has gone too far. Scary stuff!
        
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        March 22, 2018 2:12pm
    - Piniwi
      
      @waikatogirl it should have been much higher up the list but:
      Strike Six….Strikes.
      
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      March 22, 2018 1:14pm
  - Colville
    
    even the “so Left they are horizontal” Stuff is getting in on the act…
    
    “uncertainty”
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/102475250/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-promised-intervention-but-is-delivering-uncertainty
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:10am
    - CHFR1
      
      The comments are interesting, they read more like those 3rd term government rather than a 1st term.
      Anyone who had functioning eyes knew Adhern wasn’t up to the job of being PM but i hoped she would at least grow into the role. Alas she has learned nothing and looks more incompetent each day but to those who think she won’t be back after the baby is born you are deluding yourselves, thanks to Mt Albert she has the best paying job of her life (and one for life) so she won’t give that up.
      
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      March 22, 2018 8:45am
      - Maxx
        
        Her “leadership” reads more as trying hold onto her power through appeasing six different factions, including what seems to be at times the party leaders!
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:33am
  - freethinker
    
    Please stop at strike 99,999 or you will overshadow the new house target.
    
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    March 22, 2018 12:51pm
- Paulus
  
  Jones was continuing to pout off this morning following his original rant.
  And he appears to be getting media and public support.
  Don’t think that Mother to be of the Nation’s little talk with him yesterday has made one iota of difference.
  He loves the limelight it is generating – like his boss.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:07am
  - G152
    
    Air NZ declare him as an unsuitable pax and ban him from all and any flights.
    Can be done
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:36am
    - peterwn
      
      That would be on a par with ASB closing Rob Muldoon’s childhood savings account because it took objection to Rob’s comments. It was not his main account but upset him as the passbook was of sentimental value (many kids would have had a ASB or similar or POSB passbook account in the past).
      Is Gary McCormick still banned from Air NZ for gate crashing a Koru Lounge and helping himself to a drink? The ban is due to end in November 2018.
      
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      March 22, 2018 8:54am
      - sooty
        
        Just ban Shane Jones from the Koru club. That would realy hurt.
        
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        March 22, 2018 10:15am
      - matchbox
        
        I just don’t get this “crisis”.
        
        According to Google Maps, Kapiti airport is a 51 km drive from the Beehive. And Kapiti is a suburban train station.
        
        Why are people dying in a ditch over this being or not being on the National Airline grid. The GM of the national airline should resign over this. Talk about HIcksville, NZ
        
        Wellington Kiwibloggers, what I am I missing here?
        
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        March 22, 2018 11:28am
    - Komata
      
      G152
      
      If that was the case, Mr Jones would make a formal request to the MoD to have 40 SQN RNZAF fly him home.
      
      As it is from a ‘Minister of the Crown’, the MoD would have no option but to obey the order
      
      Thanks to Ron Marks, there is now a precedent for Ministers to act in such a fashion…
      
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      March 22, 2018 12:12pm
- RalphT
  
  Sorry, while I agree that Jones is an idiot, I can’t see our dear leader having the guts to remove him. Winston wouldn’t let such a thing happen and while he might be prepared to bring the government down as a matter of “principle” over something like this, he wouldn’t consider doing it until he has had his hands on the tiller for a few months.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:10am
- JibberJabber
  
  But the Virtue signalling and feelz is working so good.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:29am
- Happychappy
  
  Shane Jones has always been a loose cannon that uses his mouth instead if his brain and that’s why he has never won a electoral seat as the voter see him for what he is all mouth with no substance.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:30am
  - KiWombat
    
    Sometimes I wonder whether our country is being run by smart people who are just pulling our leg, or by imbeciles who really believe in what they do !
    
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    March 22, 2018 10:09am
    - sooty
      
      Happychappy, I think it should be.Shane jones has always been a loose canon that uses his hand, instead of his brain.
      
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      March 22, 2018 10:18am
- oldgolfer
  
  Jones’ greatest problem is that he thinks he is cleverer that he is, and those people, time after time, trip over their own tongues.
  If there was any justice he would be asked to stand at the Obama dinner, and then escorted out by the Air NZ board.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:35am
  - starboard
    
    A cheeky darky who likes to spank himself while watching porn.
    I bet he calls out his own name…
    
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    March 22, 2018 10:00am
  - kowtow
    
    Ngati Notional under JK seemed to think the fat gas bag was worth spending our money on !
    
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    March 22, 2018 10:03am
    - sooty
      
      Should have let him be Labour leader.
      
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      March 22, 2018 10:20am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  This is just a post-truth tactic to change the narrative.
  
  NZ First voters will love this by Jones and the narrative is NOW about Jones and not Labour’s Youth Rape camps.
  
  Labour stooges in the MSM can comfortably ignore Labour Youth Rape camps and get on with this sideshow.
  
  “Oh look! A squirrel!” works again!
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:49am
  - Happychappy
    
    I agree DP and said the same yesterday and Jacinda used his stupity to show the Women voter how strong a Leader she is by say in he has over stepped the mark with his I’ll informed rant
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:14am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      My apologies Happychappy. I missed your comment yesterday.
      
      Still, the more we point out the sacrificial lamb “pivot” play maybe the less effective it’ll be.
      
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      March 22, 2018 9:56am
radvad

The board of Air New Zealand should put out the following statement:
“To the Minister of Regional Development.
The Board of Air New Zealand has agreed to continue to operate loss making routes to the regions on the basis that the shareholding Minister agrees to all losses incurred operating those routes being deducted directly from the dividend paid to the Government. This means all taxpayers will be subsidising those losses and not just the minority shareholders.
Come on Minister, prove you are not all piss and wind. Make that arrangement and we will fly wherever you want us to. The ball is in your court.”
Statement ends.
Somehow I don’t think our gung ho Minister will be up for the task.
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March 22, 2018 8:00am
- Colville
  
  Its not his money why would he care. he has given $1.5 mil (?) so they can build a new terminal close to his house. Its all about bribing the NZF voter base.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:06am
  - flipper
    
    No, the money was allocated and spent by National. Jones simply coat-tailed and then made an idiot of himself. Peters’ resident QC needs to explain the law to the smart arse.
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:35am
- dave_c_
  
  Apparently, the mayor of the regional area which will no longer receive service, indicated that AirNZ personally told him that it was NOT profitability (or lack thereof) which caused the closure.
  It had more to do with operational issues within AirNZ – They had to redirect staff, and aircraft to other areas where there issues.
  Believe it or not – But to carte blanhchly intimate that the standard ‘unprofitable’ reason applies to all scenarios is a bit rich, and can be totally misleading.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:31am
  - Chris R
    
    My understanding is that there is a shortage of airline staff throughout the world. Air NZ must pay decent salaries to retain the staff they have. It can’t be easy competing with some of the huge airlines overseas in the job market. I know a retired lawyer who is presently 66 years old and recently decided to become cabin-crew for Air NZ. He is loving it to date and finds the company caring, smart and perceptive. The listed characteristics do not attach themselves to the Coalition very readily.
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:44am
    - woodburner
      
      The wordfrom some in the know is that the regional operations for Air NZ are an utter mess. Poor staffing and rostering practices mean that flights are being regularly delayed because pilots and aircrew are regularly exceeding their hours. This means that the early morning flights leaving places like Gisborne actually get delayed or canecelled while new aircrews are flowing in that morning. It is beyond poor management, and comes back to AirNZ looking to save money on overnights and things like that, and effectively breaking their own network
      
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      March 22, 2018 10:03am
Right of way is Way of Right

Minister for Pornography, Shane Jones, continues to ‘beat himself up’ over Air New Zealand trying to run a viable business instead of a subsidised courtesy shuttle service for him between Kaitaia and Wellington. I can understand that he is advocating for his region, but his Don Quixote fixation on the windmill that is the Air New Zealand board is laughable. What’s even worse is that he has absolutely no viable argument. If Air New Zealand tried to service every little regional airport in the country, they would either have to price those flights so highly as to make them unaffordable, or price flights on other routes higher to compensate, opening the door for competition. It’s an untenable position.

Option three is a taxpayer funded regional subsidy. 11.3 billion dollar hole anyone?

He says that the Air New Zealand CEO should keep his nose out of politics. Perhaps Shane Jones should keep his nose out of business. He has demonstrated zero acumen for it!
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March 22, 2018 8:02am
- KiWombat
  
  As for evolution, I have a hard time believing that millions of years ago two protozoa bumped into each other under a volcano, and evolved into Shane Jones !
  
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  March 22, 2018 10:12am
Prince

In an institution lull of vain, self-important, preening know-it-alls, Shane Jones stands out.

Surrounded by adoring media, he puffs himself up like Toad of Toad Hall to deliver long-winded, narcissistic bombast detailing his own importance.

The ‘oh Trevor’ style response from Ardern shows she has no idea where the money she so enjoys throwing around comes from.
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March 22, 2018 8:05am
holysheet

Good news stoooopidboy. If you shift your hovel to Wellington, you will soon be able to take your goat around with you on all public transport. As long as it assumes it’s normal position and gives you a lap dance, it will be okay.
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March 22, 2018 8:06am
- Paulus
  
  You can carry your goat, or any other animal, Only if it is in a specially made container.
  And the driver will not help you load or unload it.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:10am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Wellington councillor interviewed said the animal had to be small enough to sit on passengers knee, or travel in the baggage rack – presumably in a carrier. She did not clarify the animal sitting on your knee had to be in carrier/cage.
    
    What about allergies?
    What about the freaks who will take their weird and scary ‘pets’ with them on public transport? Scared passengers fleeing their seats, not to mention scared animals. Have they really thought this through! ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:58am
    - ldypen
      
      NO of course not!
      
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      March 22, 2018 10:22am
      - sooty
        
        Hay, but think of the feelz.
        
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        March 22, 2018 4:12pm
Shaun the Sheep

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12017200

Words fail me, so I’ll just quote Ruth Money

“What planet is this judge on?”
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March 22, 2018 8:06am
- waikatogirl
  
  Did the judge see the photos and hear the evidence?! Time to hold judges to account when an appallingly inept decision is made. Apart from the Crown appealing the sentence, there does not seem to be any personal comeback on the errant judges.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:28am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Blatantly obvious there are ministerial instructions to keep the feral scum on the streets.
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:30am
    - fernglas
      
      There are times when society’s interests in the rehabilitation and reintegration of the offender take precedence over its interest in condemning and punishing the offence. This is not one of them. Child and spousal abuse in this country is endemic and there comes a point where exemplary sentences should be imposed. Here, a 9 month home detention sentence is about equivalent to 18 months imprisonment. The maximum for the reckless wounding is 7 years. This is a bad one; brutality to a 9 month infant is appalling. I am always in favour of cutting sentencing judges some slack because it’s hard to know all the circumstances, but in this case, the judge seems to have got it badly wrong from a legal perspective, and fucked it up completely from a social one.
      
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      March 22, 2018 8:52am
      - wreck1080
        
        Maybe the judge thought the baby was somewhat culpable for what happened?
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:11am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    The lawyers here will argue judicial independence is more important than judicial accountability.
    
    The judge is a fucking disgrace and should be sacked.
    
    What political party will support judicial accountability?
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:54am
    - fernglas
      
      You mean judges who rely on popularity contests to keep their job? There is already accountability through the appeals system, judicial conduct commissioner and ultimately removal for improper conduct. Are you talking about judges having to be elected? In effect, political appointees whose ongoing tenure depends on them deciding cases the way their political masters want them to? Hopefully no party in this country would ever support that.
      
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      March 22, 2018 9:03am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        You are a lawyer I believe. The JCC cannot be used to complain about a sentence like that. Also, the JCC is a judge judging other judges.
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:07am
      - fernglas
        
        If you are worried about the sentence rather than the judge, there is an appeal process.
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:10am
      - cmm
        
        Why do we even bother having a parliament making laws if they are just going to be screwed over by the judges?
        
        If, as a society, we were to decide to reintroduce hanging then it would be the judge’s responsibility to hand out the death sentence and not a bit of home detention.
        
        Note for the slow of wit: I am not suggesting we reintroduce hanging, just saying that it is the judge’s job to apply the law – not make the law, coz feelz.
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:34am
      - GoVege
        
        No fernglas, the methods for accountability you mention are a joke.
        I know a guy who had a long list of crimes of violence and armed offender callouts who was found not guilty by a judge, who took a dislike to the victim and accused her of “exaggeration and embellishing the truth”.
        She tried for over 2 years to get a copy of the transcript of the trial and was fobbed off repeatedly.
        In the end, she was told she could only see the transcript with the agreement of the defendant!
        This is how our court system works to cover itself.
        
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        March 22, 2018 10:17am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Hopefully, it will be appealed. I bet we do not hear from the Children’s Commissioner who is focusing on votes for children. I much see if Tracy Martin will say anything about this outrage.
        
        Baby bashing: Crown urged to appeal sentence by family safety advocates
        
        This morning Family First spokesman Bob McCoskrie told the Herald he had written to the Crown and Little asking for a review of the sentence.
        
        He said the sentence was “grossly inadequate”.
        
        “We would also call on the Crown to review and appeal this decision,” he said.
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=12017907
        
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        March 22, 2018 12:28pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      “What political party will support judicial accountability?”
      
      Don’t believe Winston if he promises to Chuck. ?
      
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      March 22, 2018 9:29am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        He is in government so he would not have to promise. He would have to do something.
        
        ACT used to be a law and order party. Sadly, that is not a priority for them.
        
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        March 22, 2018 10:29am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      The charge of wounding with reckless disregard is a strike offense and carries a penalty of 7 years.
      
      I hope to find out if the useless judge gave the warning to this POS.
      
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      March 22, 2018 4:49pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      If the POS was associated with the Mongral Mob it shows how incompetent this out of touch judge is.
      
      If the judge had any self-respect she would resign.
      
      Baby basher locked up less than 48 hours after ‘joke’ home detention for alleged pub breach
      
      The same night he was sentenced the man posted a selfie on Facebook with the caption: “Last day at court sweet. Now I can live my life.”
      
      The caption also included a word associated with the Mongrel Mob.
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12018198
      
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      March 22, 2018 8:59pm
- wreck1080
  
  I cannot believe this.
  
  The judge will say he has to follow sentencing guidelines so not his fault.
  
  Big man taking on little babies!!! That guy should be in jail for 10 at least. Years that is.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:54am
  - cmm
    
    So either:
    * the judge can’t follow sentencing guidelines. If so, the judge needs to be limited to presiding over parking offences.
    -or-
    * the sentencing guidelines are broken. If so they need to be fixed.
    
    Our sentencing guidelines are http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2002/0009/latest/whole.html#DLM1780002
    
    Section 9A clearly states that violence on a person under 14 years must be treated with special consideration (ie. harshly).
    
    Perhaps the judges should be required to refer to the clauses they used in making the sentence.
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:41am
    - fernglas
      
      Most sentencing decisions set out the reasons, which will include reference to statutory criteria which the judge has considered and applied.
      
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      March 22, 2018 9:56am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    The judge said the 20 year old thug would benefit from employment, then sentences 9 months home d.
    How is home d going to aid job-hunting?
    
    Personally I think the grandfather is rather restrained in his response.
    Vigilantism should not be the first response, but if this baby boy can’t get justice from the courts, then his mongrel father needs to be dealt to another way.
    
    And while we’re about it: The 9 month old has a younger sibling, also in care. I do hope their mother has learned to choose her men more carefully and use contraception until they have passed scrutiny.
    
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    March 22, 2018 10:20am
- GoVege
  
  Re the vicious attacks on the mother including while she was pregnant:
  I thought the law now was that it was a crime to allow children to witness violence in the home.
  What’s the point of having these laws if they are not enforced?
  And if they HAD been enforced, this brute might not have progressed on to beating a baby.
  
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  March 22, 2018 10:32am
- backster
  
  Is this judge really stupid or is she handicapped by restrictive sentencing dogma. Judges should make commonsense judgements based on the facts before them. It seems former lawyers lack this ability.
  All the other erstwhile endeavours to reduce violence fail when the Judges fail society.
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:00am
- Gravelroad
  
  The judge reportedly said that the sentence would give the defendant time to address “the needs you do have.” And of course, he was drunk at the time so that’s a legitimate excuse.
  There you have it, it’s all about the importance of the man’s needs.
  Someone else can address the baby’s needs.
  Do we have a Minister for Children? What does she have to say? Any leadership on this issue?
  No.
  
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  March 22, 2018 3:01pm
Poppa

Dear Shane

I hear you are going to the dinner to hear Obama speak on Air New Zealand’s dime. You seem to be very pleased with that as well.

There is a word for that Shane & it starts with H
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March 22, 2018 8:09am
Monique Watson

Jacinda’s got balls. That’s why she’s where she is today. A bun in the oven won’t change that.

Yeah that’s a fucking shocker that that wasteoid got home detention, Shaun.
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March 22, 2018 8:09am
- Scott
  
  What amazes me is the positive coverage that Obama gets even here in New Zealand. For some reason New Zealanders idolise Democrats? They fawned over Bill Clinton and now they are fawning over Obama. Donald Trump they hate and George Bush they would probably hate as well.
  
  However I did force myself to watch Anderson Cooper on CNN yesterday, just to see what they were covering? In a 2 hour show they had only 3 items. The bombings in Austin which they had to cover because it was breaking news. Trump’s purported affair with Stormy Daniels which they talked about at great length. And how terrible it was that Trump rang Vladimir Putin and congratulated him on his election victory.
  
  Basically there is nothing else at CNN but Trump is terrible all of the time. Unfortunately that’s where New Zealanders get their opinions. CNN and the New York Times and the Washington post shape our opinions of the US president. So New Zealanders are taught that all Democrats are good and all Republicans are bad.
  
  What we need in New Zealand are centre-right voices to counter the narrative. I believe there is a lot we can learn about what America is doing and what Trump is doing that would actually benefit us. There are very interesting things going on in America involving job creation, lower tax rates, better trade deals, imposition of tariffs, freeing up the energy sector and cutting back on regulations.
  
  The US economy is doing very well and much of it is due to the new President of the United States. But you would never know that watching CNN.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:17am
  - kowtow
    
    Our own rnz has been giving a lot of coverage over the past few days to the Texas bombings , strange as Yemen and Syria are really getting bombed without any current coverage .
    
    But then there’s a suspicion of a “racial” element to the Texas bombings , so as always with the left, it’s not the bombing that matters , it’s the perpetrator and the victims.
    
    Same with the faux outrage over the sexual harassment thing …….poor white girls in England don’t count when it’s Muslims doing the raping.
    
    The Lying Media.
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:36am
  - Harkman
    
    After McCabe was fired (bloody good) on the recommendation of Obama appointees for corruption, those on Fox were obviously happy. So I changed to CNN and their guests were attacking Trump, saying he should be impeached, the firings were all political to stop McCabe from talking to Mueller. How? Mueller can speak with anyone he wants and has likely already spoken with McCabe. CNN never once told their listeners that McCabe was fired on the recommendation of Democrats after a very long internal investigation. Strzok and Lisa Pages’s texts reveal what McCabe and Co were up to.
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:43am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Harkam ,
      
      “After McCabe was fired (bloody good) on the recommendation of Obama appointees for corruption, those on Fox were obviously happy.”
      
      What else would one expect from Faux Fox news ?
      Now what do the texts say what McCabe was up to ?
      
      “Donald Trump’s corrupt firing of Andrew McCabe
      McCabe’s firing shows how Trump’s behavior corrodes faith in government.”
      
      https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/17/17133284/donald-trump-andrew-mccabe-jeff-sessions-fired-former-fbi-director
      
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      March 22, 2018 9:07am
      - Harkman
        
        Vox is a fake lefty, pinko, pussy, anti-western, anti-capitalist, tree hugger site. They don’t have a clue why McCabe was because the IG’s report hasn’t been released yet.
        
        You conveniently overlooked the fact that he was fired on the recommendation of career Democrats.
        
        You posted 46 times yesterday. You are a spambot.
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:24am
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        Harkman , the death of reason and common sense !
        
        46 posts ? The counting game is all you can do ?
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:44am
      - sooty
        
        Stephieboy you are late. I told you to get some assistance from Fraser house to help you. It’s going to be along time till the other trolls get back.
        
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        March 22, 2018 10:43am
    - virtualmark
      
      McCabe was fired after a very *accelerated* investigation. The grounds for his firing seem spurious (like Comey he was supposedly fired for being mean to Hilary …). And the report that his firing is supposedly based on has not been released.
      
      McCabe was leaving anyway. He was fired, rather than be allowed to resign, because firing him will allow Trump’s lawyers to argue that any testimony from McCabe is the testimony of a man embittered by being fired. I doubt that will help the Don’s case much, because I expect the case against him doesn’t at all rely on McCabe.
      
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      March 22, 2018 3:39pm
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    “centre-right voices to counter the narrative” ??
    
    Now I wonder who those voices could be other than those on KB and Whale Blubber ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:04am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      sqwark alt-right
      
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      March 22, 2018 10:24am
  - Kimbo
    
    @Scott
    
    What we need in New Zealand are centre-right voters to counter the narrative
    
    Including, such as you did a couple of days ago, Scott, tell lies that recent Labour governments were anti-American. As always, and as per my invitation, I am willing to withdraw that accusation that you are a liar, Scott, if and when you provide a rebuttal.
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/finally_govt_backs_down_on_russia.html
    
    Ball still in your court…
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:32am
    - Scott
      
      Once again Kimbo try not to pursue me all over the Internet. I have not lied and that is all I am going to say in my defence.
      I must say I am a little tired of these accusations. It’s a bit like “when did you stop beating your wife”.
      
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      March 22, 2018 9:56am
      - Kimbo
        
        I have not lied and that is all I am going to say in my defence.
        
        Nope, am gonna be over you like a rash because you claim to be a Christian, but you tell lies. And denial. in the face of facts and details that showed that your statement was false, is not…rebuttal.
        
        But, as before, when you wrote
        
        I’d like to know what is New Zealand’s foreign policy?…It seems to me for some years that Labour governments have generally been anti-American, nuclear free zone kind of people.
        
        …I just don’t understand the vision our government has for foreign policy?
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/finally_govt_backs_down_on_russia.html
        
        …just tell me that you were genuinely mistaken, ignorant and misinformed about your opinion that recent Labour governments were “anti-American” rather than multilateral in their foreign policy
        
        ….and I will withdraw and apologise. Immediately. So, no. It’s not a “have you stopped beating your wife?” accusation. At all. Ball still in your court, sir…
        
        In the meantime, I note your latest admission that you seek to “set the narrative” is a tacit admission that your musings and questions are not honest inquiries. Instead, they are a form of rhetorical deceit, posing as honest inquiry, but instead seeking to “set the narrative. Which is your prerogative Scott. Just as it’s mine to respond (this is “General Debate”, after all)
        
        …including calling you out when you try and “set the narrative” by lying.
        
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        March 22, 2018 10:09am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Bit depends Kimbo, on perception. NZ Labour governments typically try to appear “anti-american” because that is popular (and typically very popular) with their base. In actual actions, a little less so because like most governments, “real-politik” intrudes.
      
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      March 22, 2018 11:21am
      - Kimbo
        
        I don’t agree, and instead Labour governments seek, as per Norman Kirk, to be “independent”, in line with our essential multilateral foreign policy, and we invest in multilateral forums such as the UN. and World Bank. One can disagree with those policies, fair enough, but they are not immediately or necessarily “anti-American”. Hence Bush II and then-US Secretary of State Colin Powell described the NZ of Helen Clark’s tenure as “a very good friend of the US”.
        
        But, as you imply with your comment about “perception”, while I disagree, I don’t have a problem if that is Scott’s genuine opinion. If it is – and I’ve asked him to clarify the matter – I’ll withdraw and apologise my accusation he is a liar. However, complicating the matter is the fact that Scott mused
        
        I just don’t understand the vision our government has for foreign policy?
        
        I mean, really?! Scott is truly that ignorant of the policies of independence and multilateralism that have been around in New Zealand since…1972?! More likely, as per Scott’s latest statement, he knew very well of it, and his supposed inquiry was nothing of the sort, but, as he admits, “countering the narrative”.
        
        But if Scott gives an assurance he was genuinely uninformed and ignorant of that long-standing foreign policy setting, I will nonetheless take his word for it…and withdraw and apologise, no more questions asked.
        
        Ball in his court…
        
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        March 22, 2018 11:33am
  - KevOB
    
    CNN is banned from my computer.
    
    Why does TVNZ , taxpayer owned, feed us US propaganda? Where’s actual news of merit?
    
    Why is the NZ taxpayer indirectly paying for Obama’s aggrandisement? He may well be prosecuted for crimes in high office.
    
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    March 22, 2018 11:52am
    - stephieboy
      
      CNN is banned from my computer. ??
      
      Oh deary me . Tsk tsk as if that was the biggest concern on CNN’s mind.
      
      I take though that Infowars is not ?
      
      LOL
      
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      March 22, 2018 12:29pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  @Monique
  To get home d for beating the bejeezus out of a 9 month old and his mother when she tried to intervene is beyond description.
  As the grandfather said: why didn’t they give him a cup of tea and a piece of cake as well?
  
  That judge should be sacked forthwith.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:24am
holysheet

Gaylord takes Kelvin on a fishing trip (on instructions from Cindy to keep him missing in action yet again). They rent all the equipment – the reels, the rods, the boat, the car, and even a bach at the beach. I mean they spend heaps! The first day they go fishing, but they don’t catch anything. The same thing happens on the second day, and on the third day. It goes on like this until finally, on the last day of their trip, Gaylord catches a fish. As they’re driving home they’re really depressed. Gaylord turns to Kelvin and says, “Do you realize that this one lousy fish we caught cost us fifteen hundred bucks?” Kelvin says, “Wow! Then it’s a good thing we didn’t catch any more!”
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March 22, 2018 8:11am
JIV

Listening to JAG and James Shaw, I was amazed that they actually believe the Paris Accord. They are spouting that the whole world agrees and everyones working together. I dont believe theyre stupid but they sure are naive.
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March 22, 2018 8:11am
- Harkman
  
  They’re terrorists, economic terrorists.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:33am
- srylands
  
  For the last 20 years, politicians have over estimated their ability to reduce greenhouse emissions. To say the least. I look forward to seeing what James Shaw comes up with. It could be a real clash with New Zealand First. “Developing” the regions produces greenhouse gases. So does building houses.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:43am
  - KiWombat
    
    The greenest house is the one that never gets built !
    
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    March 22, 2018 11:18am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Meanwhile Paris blanketed in snow – in spring!
  
  They are so invested in the lie about AGW that it is now impossible for them to accept anything which doesn’t support their religion.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:55am
- KiWombat
  
  “The ice caps are melting Leonard, in the future swimming won’t be optional !”
  Sheldon Cooper
  
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  March 22, 2018 10:16am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Greens inhabit cosy safe places that receive little light or air from the outside. As a result they inhale far to much of their own toxic emissions.
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:50am
kowtow

Interesting headline from stuff , basically the Islamofascists are naughty boys who will grow up.

Meanwhile stuff are not reporting that Kitteridge has warned that a foreign power ( one assumes China ) is increasing its interference here.

Let’s wait and see how little is made of this very important story by our media , while at the same time they obsess about the Russians and Trump.It has already dropped from the 8 am RNZ bulletin.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/102481405/sis-boss-some-islamic-state-extremists-grow-up-marry-move-on
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March 22, 2018 8:13am
- Jack5
  
  Meet the Chinese Communist Party’s United Front Work Department, which heads China’s international drive for influence:
  
  http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2138196/its-mysterious-department-behind-chinas-growing
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:49am
GazzaW

Air New Zealand staff across the board will take Jones’ attack on their CEO as a personal affront. I wish him the best of luck with his baggage actually arriving on the carousel at the other end and as for upgrades on personal vacations forget it Shane you’ll be paying for those from now on. The cabin staff too have their ways and means – I leave that to the imagination but suffice to say the galley is out of sight.

A very stupid move on Jones’ part. Air travel may never be the same again.
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March 22, 2018 8:18am
- VicParking
  
  He will just switch to RonAir.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:29am
  - Harkman
    
    Rhymes with ConAir.
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:44am
    - Komata
      
      Harkman
      
      Re: ‘Rhymes with ConAir’
      
      You DO realise I hope, that ‘ConAir’ actually exists; there is a Canadian version which uses aircraft to fight forest fires and a US version that makes personal care, grooming, health and beauty products, and premium kitchen electrics, tools, and cookware?
      
      Despite the movie, the actual ‘Federal’ ‘ConAir is correctly the ‘National Prisoner Transportation System’s Air Operations Division’.
      
      Thought you might like to know…
      
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      March 22, 2018 12:31pm
- JibberJabber
  
  I doubt they`ll need to “lose” his luggage, Jones will be taking a leaf out of Clayton”punch`n`grow”Cosgroves book on how to get new suits.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:33am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  If your name is S Jones I would suggest flying with carry-on luggage only. They print names on baggage tags at Air New Zealand.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:45am
- Jack5
  
  Wasn’t it Carter, chairman of Air NZ and brother of the National MP, who ws attacked by Jones, not the airline’s CEO?
  
  As for worries about luggage, perhaps he’ll need to appeal to National’s list backbencher, Nuk, from Ngai Tahu, who is reknown for his bill about airports being able to sell lost luggage.
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:37am
  - Jack5
    
    Nuk Korako’s bill, which was thrown out, was to allow airports to sell lost luggage without first advertising it in local newspapers.
    
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    March 22, 2018 11:43am
Monique Watson

Who’s going to The Dinner? Waste of time if you ask me unless you really want to serve up a cool half mill for bragging rights with your fellow Baby Boomers who can remember west Germany when it was West Germany.
Bazza isn’t giving anything away. No interviews,
Nada. Fucking hell, Clinton dropped more fairy dust on his visit. It could be hubris but it’s more than likely he’s being leaned on.
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March 22, 2018 8:18am
- holysheet
  
  Can I ask our gracious host if he will be attending?
  It would be a business expense. Research and all that.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:24am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Can we look forward to a thread tomorrow being from DPF’s personal view point? Fly on the wall stuff. ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:39am
- stephieboy
  
  Monique Watson ,
  
  Who out there in the real world beyond KB actually cares ?
  
  Now really … !
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:13am
calendar girl

The backs of jerseys worn by Highlanders players in NZ’s ‘Super Rugby’ competition display “University of Otago” as the team’s major sponsor.

Such sponsorship is high-cost expenditure for a public-sector entity like the University, even in Dunedin where commerce and industry is more sparse than in the country’s major cities. I would be intrigued to learn how this narrowly-targeted advertising expenditure could be justified; the ‘business case’ would make fascinating reading.
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March 22, 2018 8:23am
- kowtow
  
  What business case ?
  
  It feelz right.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:31am
  - calendar girl
    
    That’s why the words are in inverted commas!
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:33am
    - kowtow
      
      Yer I know , I’m agreeing wid u.
      
      I help pay for this shit through my rates.
      
      I don’t get a business case I just get bummed by my council to pay up and keep quiet.
      
      ‘As you may already be aware, the plan proposes some big new projects such as an architectural bridge that will open up access to Dunedin’s waterfront – the first step in a bold vision to transform the area and take advantage of the wonderful potential of our harbour environs.’
      
      https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/aiming-deliver-one-worlds-great-small-cities
      
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      March 22, 2018 9:42am
      - sooty
        
        How many free tickets in the corprate box do they get for advertising on the all blacks jersey. Troughing on other peoples money, l think.
        
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        March 22, 2018 10:51am
- MCos
  
  Look up the archives. That’s all been thrashed out already.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:35am
- Toko
  
  I think it was a good move and I don’t even watch rugby and was anti the stadium being built. The uni aims to attract students from all over the country and super rugby has a large viewership, so good exposure. Also the stadium and the varsity have close connections, Unipol (recreation centre) is there and they use it for orientation gigs etc. The first years love getting cheap tickets to the Zoo in their orientation ticket for the home games, and it is a real party atmosphere. I see it as a win-win as the stadium gets better utilised and the Highlanders get support, while promoting Otago as a fun campus lifestyle.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:36am
  - calendar girl
    
    “The uni aims to attract students from all over the country ….”
    
    That’s fair enough, but new students are enrolling November to February. Why do the marketing after the start of the University year?
    
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    March 22, 2018 10:09am
    - SGA
      
      I would guess that most high school students planning to go Uni (especially if planning to “go away” somewhere) make their decision over the course of the year rather than a snap decision in November.
      
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      March 22, 2018 2:38pm
- SGA
  
  As MCos notes, this is the 3rd or 4th year that the Uni of Otago has advertised this way, and it has been discussed here previously. All the universities have an advertising budget, and if the Uni of Otago thinks this is a cost effective way of getting exposure (in NZ, Australia, Argentina, and Japan) then it’s not so silly.
  (That said, I have no idea how cost effective it has been – just that the idea isn’t as strange as it looks at first glance).
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:10am
  - Colville
    
    Probably a fairly effective way of marketing the Uni to Dad that is likely paying the bill for lil Susie to go drink piss at uni too!
    
    But rugby has been a large part of the Duners Uni social life for a long time.
    
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    March 22, 2018 11:43am
    - SGA
      
      And, of course, they don’t just get the advertising while the game is being played – any Highlanders jersey, be it on a 8-year-old going to school or their mum or dad on the weekend, is advertising.
      
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      March 22, 2018 2:45pm
Monique Watson

Who was the judge presiding?
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March 22, 2018 8:31am
- waikatogirl
  
  This judge? Judge Denise Clark said the man’s most significant offence was the assault on the baby.
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:40am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I suspect a positive discrimination appointee.
  Promoted to the bench to lift the wimmin numbers despite being woefully inadequate for the task.
  
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  March 22, 2018 1:20pm
Harkman

What an embarrassing display last night, the first ten minutes on One News was about Obama. Three was probably worse. I’m wondering if one out dopey journalists will grow a pair and ask him why he didn’t do a damn thing about a 1/4 of America getting addicted to opioids.
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March 22, 2018 8:32am
- MCos
  
  A quarter of Americans addicted to opioids?
  I find that hard to believe.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:47am
  - MrTips
    
    Believe it
    https://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm518697.htm
    
    https://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm491739.htm
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:59am
    - stephieboy
      
      Mr Timps , surely that has to be a consequence of the Trump effect ?
      
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      March 22, 2018 1:40pm
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy is dreaming of trump again ,with both mitts on his flacid tool ,what an obsessed moron.
        
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        March 22, 2018 2:50pm
  - Inandout
    
    Me too, junk food well yes at least 25%.
    
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    March 22, 2018 12:35pm
- niggly
  
  Didn’t see TV1 but TV3 news had Paddy Gower and a long range paparazzi camera lens stalking Obama, Key and co playing golf!
  
  TV3 then interrupted one of their next stories to give a Gower update report – the golf results!
  
  Was TV1 any better or just as tabloid? Was it the gushing Vance or bouncing giddy Bradford or Corrin Dann resplendent in tartan type patterned golf shorts, pink polo shirt and peak cap covering the event? 😉
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:53am
  - MCos
    
    Obama visiting NZ is interesting, but this amount of meaningless coverage is just cringy.
    
    PS were you a trainspotter in another life?
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:26am
    - flipper
      
      I am still waiting for my invitation to the banquet to arrive. And I missed the early coffee and tee-off today. Xyz ……. !!!
      ?
      As for the banquet, I am not sure what he could teach me….. well, after all, I am intellectually superior (polishing nails !) to the ex-junior Senator for Illinois, am I not ? ???
      
      The click-bait media is going crazy and many are bemoaning the cost to taxpayers.
      
      Had he been “El Presidente” I would have become really interested. But seriously, now he is just a former politician from a great nation that narrowly avoided a bullet when it showed H (The wives of Stepford, aka the India excuse) Clinton the electoral door.
      But the reality is that Obama will not increase ANZ’s market share. In that sense it is a waste of money. Yes. It did attract some attention even in the US of A. The company will have done its sums, but why am I left feeling that this JK’s pet project …. if not his only business contribution to the company so far ?
      
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      March 22, 2018 10:01am
      - stephieboy
        
        flippers , no worries crackpots like you will be carefully screened for obvious security purposes .
        
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        March 22, 2018 1:41pm
  - Inandout
    
    Who was the older guest with dyed hair and the deep voice on Garner this morning?
    
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    March 22, 2018 12:13pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Overnight host on RadioLive apparently. Odd haircut.
      
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      March 22, 2018 2:41pm
  - MH
    
    they are both on par,sorry, give me a macron someone, there it is -both on pa.
    
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    March 22, 2018 4:21pm
- KevOB
  
  The US were helping the care of poppy crops in Afghanistan.
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:55am
oldpark

NZF led by the self appointed Dictator Peters rumour has it their new name will be “Con-air” full of fat loud mouth buffoons.
Just a small sample of what 3% of NZ support.
Peters who betrayed his fixed income old age pensioners by vetoing their small Superannuation increases.
Ron “skid”Mark who acts like “General” Napoleon with his “Medals” and taking home Helicopters
Not forgetting the fat controller called Shame Jones. What a nasty piece of work,and an embarrassment to our so called democracy.
Of course they daily try to emulate Peters with his answer to someone saying “Good Morning “.The reply from Peters makes it sound as if “Good Morning” was an insult.
To think there are seven list MPs in Peters gang,up to now we have had a sample of three of them. Wonder what type of insult will be revealed from the other four. All suspects for “Con-Air”.
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March 22, 2018 8:33am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Please don’t forget Tracey “I hereby declare this wharf I voted against open” Martin
  
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  March 22, 2018 10:29am
hullkiwi

Does NZ’s health service need an overhaul. I ask this not because of Campbell’s on going “let’s take pot shots at the government campaign, but because within 24 hours we have 2 situations at either end of the country that indicate DUB management & boards are forgetting who they serve & who they are accountable to.
Yet again the Southern DHB, this time because it wants to close/transfer facilities. However, it appears to have made decisions on erroneous data. Given the history of the Southern Board, would it not be unreasonable to expect the appointed commissioner to at least employ information systems to avoid the dud decisions of the past & to ensure it knows the morbidity requirements of the population it serves? But he’ll no, they seem he’ll bent on repeating the same mistakes over & over.
Then there is Counties -Manukau & Middlemore Hospital and a leaky buildings situation the Board has sat on for 7 years. The failings of this Board (led by professional manager Lester Levy) are scandalous and skill cost taxpayers dearly. Seems Middlemore Hospital has 4 leaky buildings, built circa 2000. The Board has known of the problems since 2012 and done very little despite reports saying the issues are severe.
What this Board has achieved is an out of court settlement for $3mill with the contractors. However, the estimated cost to repair one building alone is $25mill and even worse, the DUB will be using the same contractors to repair the first of the buildings & then with one of the four buildings no plan has been determined because they can’t do the repair work. This is because they have nowhere to provide the services. Like I said, they have known of the problems for 6 years, so what the he’ll have they been doing?

As Kiwis and taxpayers we should expect better of our public servants, but the problem I fear is more deep seated, in that I suspect it goes right to the top with MPs who become ministers and are way out of their depth& who you wouldn’t rely upon to run a bath. Because it is the politicians who appoint & scrutinise the Chairs of these Boards.
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March 22, 2018 8:37am
- KiWombat
  
  Somewhere on this planet is a woman who, every 10 seconds or so, gives birth to a child. She must be found and stopped !
  
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  March 22, 2018 10:19am
  - hullkiwi
    
    KiWombat your trivia level will get you a nomination for Kimbo’s pub quiz team.
    
    Now who is the down ticker who is too gutless to give a comment or show who they are? Probably Stephanie boy.
    
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    March 22, 2018 10:39am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    closer to 3 per second.
    
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    March 22, 2018 11:56am
- Colville
  
  Problem with going too hard at the building contractor is they will just pop the company and start afresh. That is what all the big ones (except Mainzeal who later went broke) did after leaky buildings came to light.
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:46am
cmm

You couldn’t make this shit up!

The fan search for Wakanda – the fictitious black empire city in Africa in the Black Panther movie yields:

* Johannesburg: built by white people less than 150 years ago.

* Lesotho : Rural traditional etc… Lesotho is a mountainous country that can’t feed itself. Almost all the food is food aid grown in South Africa (and now that South Africa can’t feed itself, is brought in elsewhere). They only live there because the Zulus chased them into the mountains in the 1800s.

* Ethiopia: Never colonised (well properly anyway – though occupied by Italy between 1935 and 1941), so they can’t blame its shit-hole-ness on whites.
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March 22, 2018 8:39am
- Harkman
  
  What’s with the anti-white movie anyhow? Critics have complained that the basic flaws of the movie are being overlooked.
  
  “Johannesburg: built by white people less than 150 years ago.” And I bet they settled a completely empty, barren place away from Africa tribes out of fear too.
  
  Financial guru Jim Rogers drove around the world between 1998-2002, when he was in Ethiopia he saw a lush green country side and no animals or farming. In every town he went to people were queuing for UN and NGO handouts.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:56am
  - cmm
    
    Johannesburg wasn’t exactly “settled” by choosing the best land to build a town. It is there only because of the gold. Before that it had absolutely no redeeming features.
    
    The town itself basically started as a general store, a pub and a whore house for the miners. All that has changed is the scale of the activities.
    
    Johannesburg is one of very few cities in the world that is not built on a major river or harbour.
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:17am
mandk

Syrian comedian shows Turdeau up for the useful idiot that he is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5raDGD9EWw&feature=share

At one point Turdeau compares returning ISIS warriors with Italian immigrants. The man’s stupidity is simply breathtaking.
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March 22, 2018 8:40am
- mara
  
  Well worth watching to see that the only difference between Trudeau and Cinderella is that she has larger teeth.
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:06am
  - mandk
    
    It’s pretty even, but I still think Turdeau has the edge in terms of cringe-worthiness.
    
    But, given time, I’m sure Jacinda will catch-up.
    
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    March 22, 2018 12:00pm
EAD_TWO

The top rated comment sums up the Orwellian state of the Communist Gulag known formerly as “Great” Britain:

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/fee-count-dankula/21238

The authorities ignore the abuse of thousands of children because to take action is “racist” or “too much trouble”. But they prosecute someone for making a video about a “nazi pug”

The authorities reduce or deny payments to tens of thousands of vulnerable people because of an “administrative error”. But they prosecute someone for making a video about a “nazi pug”

The authorities admit people to this country who are trained in urban warfare and IED manufacture and who freely admit they wish to destroy our country. But they prosecute someone for making a video about a “nazi pug”

Think about that
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March 22, 2018 8:44am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO,
  
  “Orwellian state of the Communist Gulag known formerly as “Great” Britain:” ??
  
  Your voices getting the better of you ?
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:15am
- howitis
  
  British police swearing in oath 2018.
  
  -I swear to defend the rapists in muslim ghettos
  -I swear I will not interfere to assist if any young ladies/girls (12 to 16 yo) are being groomed, harrassed, or even raped by ‘our special guests’
  -I swear to harass any parent that stands up publicly for their child that is sexually harassed, threatened or groomed by ‘our special guests’ and if they do not cease and desist they will be arrested and prosecuted
  -I swear to harass, name, and perp walk any white male accused by a feminazi – fully deranged or only partly deranged- and ruin their life based on nothing but an unwitnessed, unsubstantiated, and unsubstantiable statement that may or may not have mass inconsistencies
  -I swear to protect ‘special group’ rapists and paedophiles whether at the BBC, the House of Commons or the House of Lords, or in senior public servant roles while appearing to support any sham investigation to the aforementioned
  -I swear to not investigate any illegal drug taking sports people especially Team GB cyclists
  -I swear I shall not protect from harm any alt right or apparently right to centre right people from harm from others should protests (conveniently) go pear shaped
  – I swear to tip toe around any pakis, Indians, Middle Easterns, or African origin people that perform or suggest menacing behaviour whether of a sexual or pure violent nature
  
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  March 22, 2018 10:36am
  - stephieboy
    
    howitis , yet again the question needs to be asked are your voices ( delusions ) over powering you ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 1:44pm
Happychappy

Will Winston Peters see out this Parliamentary Term as he looks and talks like a very sick individual or was this his intention to die while in office. How can Jacinda and Labour put someone that looks like death warmed up into the position of acting Prime Minister while she takes Maternity leave is beyond belief and could cause Political damage to NZ ‘s reputation around the world.
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March 22, 2018 8:46am
- Poppa
  
  Peters will cause damage no matter what his state of health is.
  
  Part of me is looking forward to it on the basis it will be a total cock up, but part of me is embarrassed just thinking about it.
  
  That is without all of the other clingons
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:40am
- Inandout
  
  His estate may get paid more if he ‘dies on the job’.
  
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  March 22, 2018 12:03pm
Monique Watson

@Harkman. Obama was too busy being impotent in the Middle East during the Arab Spring and just a couple of years later, letting Putin snitch the Crimean Peninsula to deal with the opioid crisis.
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March 22, 2018 8:48am
- Harkman
  
  Yes, divisive at home, weak internationally.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:58am
- stephieboy
  
  Monique Watson , reality check Do you know Trump supported the invasion of Iraq 2003 ) that began it all and the UN sanctioned bombing of Libya ?
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:49am
  - flipper
    
    Proof please, liar in chief !
    
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    March 22, 2018 11:06am
    - stephieboy
      
      flipper , here it is for the deluded in chief ,
      
      The lies Trump told this week: from opposing the Iraq war to San Bernardino”
      
      Trump shares more false memories from the Iraq war and Middle Eastern politics and welcomes Nato’s ‘new’ terrorism division – which has existed since 2004
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/19/trump-fact-check-iraq-war-san-bernardino-nato
      
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      March 22, 2018 1:54pm
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    septicboy ,lying again .
    
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    March 22, 2018 2:54pm
Ross12

They are having a go at President Trump for congratulating Putin on his win –just like Merkel, Macron and few others.
Even when it is pointed out the Obama congratulated him last time it still doesn’t stop the ranting.
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March 22, 2018 8:55am
- Harkman
  
  Good call. The problem is people like McCain with their over-the-top anti-Russia rhetoric are only serving to make Putin more popular at home. While there was ballot-box stuffing, Putin would have still won, all the other candidates are seen as weak. Russians sitting at home are seeing him school Obama, steal Crimea and poison traitors and they’re thinking, “Gosh he’s powerful, he’s making us feared again.”
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:06am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Harkman, the old Soviet Empire is gone long time ago as Putin pathetically tries to revive it again ,
    
    Even has gone on record claiming it was not that bad pre 1991 .
    
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/03/03/putin-says-he-wishes-he-could-change-the-collapse-of-the-soviet-union-many-russians-agree/?utm_term=.2c80299a5201
    
    Do you ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:18am
    - Andrei
      
      Right on cue along comes the stephiebot filling the thread with its nonsense and displaying its ignorance
      
      Meantime Godwining galore in the British Parliament
      
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      March 22, 2018 9:25am
      - Harkman
        
        Nice link. Why do unfit & unco politicians always want to boycott major sports events? This is the stupidest thing one could do. Minto/Bradford wanted us to boycott the 2008 Beijing Olympics, and if we had of we would’ve missed out on a truckload of medals.
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:36am
      - stephieboy
        
        Andrei , this is not nonsense ,
        
        Journalists Killed in Russia
        
        between 1992 and 2018 / Motive Confirmed
        
        https://cpj.org/data/killed/europe/russia/?status=Killed&motiveConfirmed%5B%5D=Confirmed&type%5B%5D=Journalist&cc_fips%5B%5D=RS&start_year=1992&end_year=2018&group_by=year
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:52am
      - Andrei
        
        Oh Stephiebot Please
        
        You provide a list of journalists who have died violent deaths in Russia, which happens to be the largest nation of the planet, over a 25 year period
        
        Some of these deaths occured in war zones in the other cases without exception the culprits have been caught and prosecuted – we could go through that list one by one and show the outcome
        
        Who assinated the BBC reporter Jill Dando in London Stephiebot?
        
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        March 22, 2018 10:13am
    - Harkman
      
      What did I type? I said that people like McCain, the other neocons, the Democrats and the media are turning Putin into a big bad monster. They are making him look more powerful than he is and that is only serving to bolster his authority at home.
      
      As for Communism, it is a scatterbrained experiment. Societies without a market price mechanism will always fail.
      
      Aren’t you a Marxist?
      
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      March 22, 2018 9:30am
Monique Watson

@MCo. Yes. Holy Heckamoley. Opioid abuse is rife and riddling any number of States here, in the U.S. Ohio has been struck the hardest.
It’s harder here in California due to it’s liberal leanings to get a physician to prescribe drugs than it is for Prince Harry to get his shit organised and write up a pre-nup but you can easily get your hands on coke and smack.
I don’t go there and I tell my kids to abstain until full brain maturity at the age of 25 after which it’s game on and if it’s got street value, I want a cut.
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March 22, 2018 8:58am
Right of way is Way of Right

Winston Peters has been in Parliament since 1979, with 6 years of ‘forced leave’ that gives at total of 33 years.

He has served in the party or coalition of government for 12 years, enjoying the baubles of office.

He’s changed Parties from National, to Independent, to NZ First.

He’s been voted out of his own electorates three times.

He’s been sacked by three Prime Minsters.

He’s held 5 ministerial posts.

He’s changed electorate seats 5 times.

In 33 years his parliamentary salary would amount to close to 11 million dollars.

As leader of a party with 7% of the vote, he took it upon himself to disenfranchise 44% of the electorate to satisfy his own capacious ego.

In all that time, he’s managed to institute a Gold Card, just in time so he can claim it himself, along with all that extra super. No-ones talking about the NZ First Tax Bill any more either, are they!

How does he keep his nose in the trough? I wouldn’t vote for him in a school board election!
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March 22, 2018 9:07am
- Harkman
  
  I’m pretty sure that whenever his party has been in power there has been a recession. The man is a curse on NZ.
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:39am
  - stephieboy
    
    Harkman , such as the 1929 and 2007 ones ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 1:47pm
- KiWombat
  
  Winston, if at first you don’t succeed you may already be at your level of incompetence !
  
  Voters please learn a lesson from this !
  
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  March 22, 2018 10:24am
  - KiWombat
    
    Old politicians never die – they just get de-voted !
    
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    March 22, 2018 10:35am
    - sooty
      
      Earned 11million in that time?
      What’s he done with it?
      I would not think he has spent it proping up NZF
      I wonder what his parliamentry pension will be?If it’s not utu, why is he still there?
      
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      March 22, 2018 11:05am
      - KiWombat
        
        He’s in line for a multi million dollar golden handshake – the longer he can string it out the more millions we will give him !
        
        In addition to the handshake, he will also receive a Parliamentary pension based on his average final year’s salary, so if he resigns this time next year part of that pension will be based on his salary as Acting PM and the remainder on DPM.
        
        Yet more millions !
        
        If he were to peg out before resigning I’m not sure where all those millions would go – perhaps they could plug up some of the holes Grant is digging ?
        
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        March 22, 2018 11:26am
      - Brigitte
        
        KiWombat, wrong on his super on two counts. First, he would have taken the super last time he was voted out (too old to continue in the GSF at that point). Secondly, the MPs pension is based on backbenchers salary not any or all of their actual positions. He will have a current $ subsidy like newer MPs which he will receive as a lump sum when he leaves but that will be *relatively* small.
        
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        March 22, 2018 11:58am
      - sooty
        
        When he dies what happens to his pension plan?
        Will it stop?
        He wont be collecting it long.
        
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        March 22, 2018 2:56pm
      - sooty
        
        In reply to Brigitte.
        All I can say is HA, HHAAAA, HAAAAAA,HAAAA.
        So that’s why he is still there.
        
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        March 22, 2018 3:00pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Brigitte
        
        There may be some merit to your post.
        
        The starting point for a pre-1993 MP is $40,000 per term for a backbencher, and double that for a minister. He has served 14 parliaments, and I think has been a minister in 4 of them. That gives him a startingpoint of $720,000 if he did not add to the contributions himself. Of course this does not take into account the extra gratuity given to every retiring MP, something that he has not yet accepted !
        
        He MAY have taken some of this last time he was voted out, but nobody knows this other than Winston.
        
        Whichever it is – it will still be a substantial bucketful of cash !
        
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        March 22, 2018 3:59pm
- Gravelroad
  
  And yet people still voted for him and will again.
  I made an error of judgement at a recent social gathering by opining that I thought Peters was a crook.
  I was rounded on quick smart and taken to task about how dare I! What proof do you have? Winston is going to save us etc etc. Most of these people were otherwise sensible, intelligent citizens.
  If you love and admire Peters it doesn’t matter what he does.
  
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  March 22, 2018 3:30pm
BeaB

7.18 am before Radio NZ finished their long report on the so-called serial bomber in Texas. We even heard a warning to stay vigilant in case there are more. I have locked my door.
Are all these long news reports about internal USA incidents Red Radio’s way of avoiding holding this government to account?
Once over lightly with anything to do with Jacinda and her motley crew. Shane Jones let off the hook. Their political reporter wittering about Ear New Zealand.
I guess a Labour government will always get a free pass from the likes of Radio NZ, Simon Wilson etc etc.
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March 22, 2018 9:16am
- cmm
  
  The $30M bribe hasn’t been paid yet. Gotta keep the paymasters happy.
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:24am
- kowtow
  
  I’ve been posting on exactly this for some time now.
  
  We’ve had more than a few indications of major Chinese interference in NZ in our media for the past few months.
  
  The Herald and RNZ have covered it well. However they have not gone on and on and on about it like they do over Trump , or alleged Russian interference in the US and UK .
  
  This am is another example , the 7 am news covered Kitteridge and presumably Chinese interference but by 8 am was dropped and we were back to Trump and Putin.
  
  There are huge issues here , why the preoccupation with Trump and Putin but so very little about the Red Emperor?
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:48am
- MCos
  
  A few years ago a couple of guys killed two people with a bomb in Boston and it was big news in the US and around the world for days until the local police eliminated the problem.
  Remember?
  This bloke in Austin set off six bombs, also killing two people. Of course it’s a big deal.
  What remains to be resolved are his motives, did he have any mates and whether he left any bombs behind.
  Neither case directly effects us, but then not much stuff going on around the world the people comment about on this forum does.
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:49am
cmm

Well there goes Zuckerboy and Facebook…

A farmer gives a pig food “for free”, because the pig is the product.

When you get stuff “for free” on the internet, it is because YOU are the product.

If Facebook has to audit its apps and services to prevent data gathering, then it won’t have anything to sell. No more market for selling you, the product, therefore no more services for you.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12017798
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March 22, 2018 9:22am
Monique Watson

Yep. He’s a total prick, Righty. Nose in the trough all the way for decades and abusive in person.
Fuck, I was only four when he entered Parliament.
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March 22, 2018 9:26am
BassilFawlty

Why is it that when Maori refer to themselves as the “N” word is that not cultural appropriation?
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March 22, 2018 9:40am
RF

Well porno Jones has just proved that NZ First ignores the Commie chick. So much for her scalding. He was back in the saddle shafting Air NZ.

She has to understand that governing NZ is not like paying adults at a children’s tea party.

The stupid woman is trying to hunt with the hounds and run with the hares and is finishing up painting herself into a corner.

Bold words concerning ceasing drilling to the Greens followed by I have not made a decision to the oil industry.
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March 22, 2018 9:42am
- Kimbo
  
  To be fair to Ardern, she isn’t defending him over threatening the CEO or board. And it was her predecessor, Helen Clark, who re-wrote the cabin t manual so that there is latitude for policy differences. Probably a necessity given MMP collation governments. The Maori Party ministers would sometimes publicly disagree with National. But Jones went way too far…
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:49am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  You just chucked all those metaphors in to a blender and pushed the button for shits and giggles now, didn’t you?
  
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  March 22, 2018 10:02am
Dave Mann

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:

As New Zealand is about to halt oil and gas production, citizens are instructed to save their farts. Farts are a valuable biofuel and the wasteful practice of free-farting has now been banned nationwide, with heavy penalties for those caught doing so.

Special fart collection bottles will shortly be delivered to every household in New Zealand and the rollout will be coordinated by the managers of the government’s successful tree planting and Kiwibuild programmes. In the meantime, citizens are asked to please use any spare bottles they have – avoiding yukky harmful plastic wherever possible.

ENDS
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March 22, 2018 9:46am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  That explains why Tauranga City Council no longer recycles glass.
  Needed for hot air bottling.
  
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  March 22, 2018 10:35am
EAD_TWO

A brilliant heavy duty article (not for the Stephieboys of this world) over at Counter Currents whereJulius Evola reviewing the work of a dissident Jew who appears to be a sort of latter day Gilad Atzmon:

https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/03/otto-weininger-on-the-jewish-question/

”Today we see the Jews at the highest point they reached since the time of Herod. . . . Our age is not only Jewish, but also the most “feminine”; an age in which art represents only a sudarium of its humors; the age of the most gullible anarchism, without any understanding of the State and of justice; the age of the collectivist ethics of the species; the age in which history is viewed with the most astonishing lack of seriousness [historical materialism]; the age of capitalism and of Marxism; the age in which history, life, and science no longer mean anything, apart from economics and technology; the age when genius could be declared a form of madness, while it no longer possesses even one great artist or philosopher; the age of the least originality and its greatest pursuit; the age which can boast of being the first to have exalted eroticism, but not in order to forget oneself, the way the Romans or the Greeks did in their Bacchanalia, but in order to have the illusion of rediscovering oneself and giving substance to one’s vanity.”

Summed up – we are living in the age of irrelevancy
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March 22, 2018 9:46am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO , the Jewish Question ?What the Nazis referred to as ,Die jüdische Frage
  
  And we all know what happened to those 2.3 million and 1.5 million Jews in Occupied Poland , Russia and the others in occupied Lands .
  
  Right ?
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:58am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    @ Stephieboy,
    
    this from the other day is a classic example of The Jewish Question
    
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/top-us-general-says-american-troops-should-be-ready-die-israel
    
    “Top US General Says American Troops Should Be Ready To Die For Israel”
    
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    March 22, 2018 10:24am
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO , Die jüdische Frage had far more serious consequence leading to the elimination in Nazi occupied Europe of 5-6 million Jews
      
      The Final Solution (German: Endlösung) or the Final Solution to the Jewish Question (German: die Endlösung der Judenfrage.
      
      FACT !
      
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      March 22, 2018 1:57pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
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    You stopped reading at the word Jew, didn’t you.
    You have a fixation.
    
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    March 22, 2018 5:05pm
sooty

I wonder who Stuffs writer Andrew Sealey, votes for? He wants to reduce the voting age to 16yrs. Phill Goof wanted to reduce the age of consent to 12yrs. Got to be a Labour voter, who believes in sex, booze and giggles.
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March 22, 2018 10:08am
Anne Glen Eden

The latest child abuse saga.

“The court heard the assaults happened when the man was drunk and at a time when the relationship was facing significant difficulties…

The man’s ‘then-partner’ was cooking breakfast and he took the baby into the bedroom after becoming frustrated with his continual grizzling – the result of teething. Alone in the room, the man struck the baby repeatedly on his face and head and grabbed him by the chin and mouth to stifle his cries. He then forced something solid in the infant’s mouth causing a tear between his tongue and base of his mouth. From the next room the baby’s mother could hear her partner say: “f*** up, shut up you little c***”… the vicious attack left the 9-month-old hospitalised with lacerations around his mouth, welts on both sides of his head, multiple cheekbone fractures, a torn bottom lip and tongue and facial grazes – after which “he then fetched the baby and demanded she feed him.”

The perpetrator’s identity is suppressed, of course, out of ‘sensitivity’ to the child. Mind you, there is the story of the woman…

“Her partner then turned on her, threatening to burn her with a hot pan before pushing her towards the ground and kicking her legs, hip and shoulder.”

And the history, “…the man …admitted a charge of assaulting the baby’s mother with a weapon, and six further charges of male assaults female relating to her and another woman…had also assaulted the mother of his children on multiple occasions between September and October 2015 – including while she was pregnant… On one occasion he hit her so hard with a game console that she could not open her eye. Another time he went up behind her and held a knife firmly to her throat. On a third occasion the woman’s sister tried to defend her and the man threw her to the ground then straddled her while jamming his thumbs in her eyes.”

And the judge – “Judge Denise Clark said the man’s most significant offence was the assault on the baby… (Yep. A Woman.) “That does not excuse your behaviour, but it provides context for it,” Judge Clark said.”

Really? I would have thought that the pressures of a teething child in this history produced an inevitable result. Of course, she’s not ‘minimising’ the violence to the woman. Clearly, the family were aware of it all. No-one complained to any social service in the earlier stages about this sub-human behavior – his family, it appears, still are not ‘complaining’ – unlike those who recently handed their offender in to the Police for burning dogs alive.

And after all that – “…after giving him credit for remorse and the promise of employment, she sentenced him to home detention and ordered him to complete 160 hours of community work. “It does seem to me with right environment you are able to behave in quite un-obstructive ways,” she told him. “This is a long sentence for you, but it is a sentence that allows you to address the needs you do have.” Oh gee.

So important for him. He’s with his family. The mother is with her family. Both in environments which produced them in the first place.

BUT. The next generation. The child. “…who remained in state care with his younger brother as a result of the attack by his own father, had recovered physically but would bear emotional scars forever. “He’s quite a violent little fellow – he throws things, he wants to punch,” the grandfather explained. “He’s got a hard road ahead, that poor little boy, he’ll remember that assault for life – he won’t forget it. That little boy is going to suffer for the rest of his life.”

And around the cycle we go. There will be the ‘What does a man have to do to get a shag?’ responses. There will be the “You can’t stop young people having sex” responses. There will be the “The foetus should have been aborted and thrown into a furnace” responses. There will be the “He’s okay because he’s prepared to work. She’ll live off the state” responses – and she probably will.

Clearly, we could just legalise it and it wouldn’t be a problem – less cost to the Courts, less pressure on the jails. Then we could cater to those who’ll say, “Well I wouldn’t do it but, you know, some people do and they have a right to their choices too.”

When REALLY, the whole thing is down to a ‘liberal’ society where children come absolutely last, the most important thing in life is getting a ‘fuck’ preferably with the help of alcohol/drugs and especially if you’re a teenager, and those protecting it most are the politicians, lobbyists, powerful, and privileged who all have their particular obsessive agendas and are happy to tolerate the collateral damage, while weeping crocodile tears, because it serves their purposes. It’s ‘them’, not ‘us’ – and it’s all those white colonists’ fault. That baby is our ‘primary concern’. Yeah. Right.

“New Zealand has the worst rates of child abuse and domestic violence in the developed world – EVERY FIVE-AND-A-HALF WEEKS A CHILD IS KILLED BY A FAMILY MEMBER and each year more than 90,000 are exposed to violence in their home.”
We are such a ‘progressive’, ‘civilised’ society – so much better than all those ‘others’ – Again. Yeah. Right.
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March 22, 2018 10:24am
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  Of course, there is another answer to it.
  
  Offenders, and their complicit victims, could be sentenced to a long period of sex with machines only, AI and otherwise.
  
  Probably a better quality experience, no human damage, no babies or baby to be killed; attendance absolutely able to be tracked by GPS through the tagging if it took place at licensed premises.
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:08am
- cmm
  
  One wonders why the grandfather didn’t intervene earlier. Why did he just park his ambulance at the bottom of the cliff?
  
  Stupid people (like the parents here) need clear messages. With fucked up judges like this handing out very confusing judgements how are the stupid people in society ever going to learn?
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:22am
  - Anne Glen Eden
    
    The ‘stupid people’ are not supposed to learn, or more to the point, not in the short term. They must be allowed to ‘evolve’ at their own rate.
    
    The ‘stupid people’ are supposed to provide the casualties that promote billions of dollars being given to preferred political groups, especially those dedicated to ‘helping’ them. The more casualties the better in the short term. Gives new meaning to the term ‘grist to their mill’ – blood and bone.
    
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    March 22, 2018 11:40am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    As there is a younger sibling she must have been pregnant during the assault or she continued to have sex with that ‘person’, got pregnant again and it has taken so long to get to court that she has already had the baby.
    
    Defies belief.
    
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    March 22, 2018 2:18pm
    - cmm
      
      We get what we pay for.
      
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      March 22, 2018 7:12pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        The prick is now in jail after being caught breaching his home detention by going to the pub to celebrate that he avoided jail.
        Let’s hope this arsehole stays there for a very long time and gets his just desserts dished out by his fellow inmates.
        And we can also hope that the stupid judge has a long and hard think about the meaning of life.
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:16pm
- KevOB
  
  Did the court remove the children and not the father? Was the mother regarded as complicit or unable to care? The violent male seems to have merited a long prison term.
  
  Teething babies cry. There are approved loving gestures for pacification.
  
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  March 22, 2018 12:06pm
- stephieboy
  
  Ann of Glenn Eden ,
  
  “When REALLY, the whole thing is down to a ‘liberal’ society where children come absolutely last, the most important thing in life is getting a ‘fuck’ preferably with the help of alcohol/drugs and especially if you’re a teenager, and those protecting it most are …. “
  
  Child sex and general abuse was rife in Victorian times ,
  
  https://www.quora.com/What-were-the-main-abuses-of-children-during-Victorian-times
  
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  March 22, 2018 2:03pm
  - Anne Glen Eden
    
    stephieboy, you’re an artist at missing the point.
    
    I believe I have been constantly pointing out the sheer, unadulterated hypocrisy and destructiveness of any society in which adults say, “I should be able to do anything I want to anyone because I *really* enjoy it” – which amongst the powerful and privileged is covered up and hidden by ‘closing ranks’ and amongst the vulnerable poor and young is simply tolerated, minimised or justified.
    
    Do you really think I care whether it was in Victorian times or now? Have I not repeatedly pointed out that for all the ‘fashionable’ atheism, liberalism, civil rights, … which we claim have ‘improved things’ – nothing has changed.
    
    We are just as sub-human as we have always been, not even slightly ‘civilised’ or ‘better’ – and some are less civilised than others, deliberately encouraging it and using the ‘dupes’ for their own biased empire-building, money-making enterprises.
    
    Just because we can now film and/or watch/listen to it in 3D, or the gender of the actors is more flexible, doesn’t make it ‘progression’. What the increasingly ‘liberal’ society achieves, though, is to increasingly normalise it.
    
    So ordinary children can have some predator shove his hand downs their pants to grab at their genitals and the wider society says, “Oh well, kids will be kids. It’s all the alcohol/drugs we gave them. They took too much.”
    
    And women (including pregnant) and children can be beaten and bloodied – up to death – and a judge will say, “I’m sorry this is such a long sentence of 9 months at home (where he learned his behaviour and/or didn’t learn otherwise) and 160 hours community work (all four working weeks) but I want to give you time to sort out your problems.” Probably with a new girlfriend and her with a new boyfriend.
    
    The wider society has lost all boundaries and perspective.
    
    Not to mention, as I say, (and I’m sure they’re in there somewhere even if everyone is studiously avoiding it) “It’s not his/her fault. It was the colonists that caused it.” Or to others, the Victorians.
    
    We have not ‘progressed’ as a species, and are not ‘progressing’. We are returning to neanderthals and that’s probably doing them a disservice. They were focused on survival.
    
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    March 22, 2018 2:52pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Anne of Glenn Eden
      
      “I should be able to do anything I want to anyone because I *really* enjoy it..”
      
      “The wider society has lost all boundaries and perspective.”
      
      Another broad sweeping generalisations not backed up by the facts .
      
      Focus on the evidence and not bleating on about meaningless bombast .
      
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      March 22, 2018 4:42pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Victorian times?
    
    What on earth has Victorian time to do with a feral from Waikato bashing a 9 month old baby and getting away with it virtually unpunished?
    
    Another struggle for relevance by attempting to divert from the subject that is completely disrespectful to the victim.
    
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    March 22, 2018 5:12pm
Manolo

Deep State vs Trump:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/379484-cnn-trump-kelly-furious-after-leak-trump-was-told-not-to-congratulate

President Trump and his chief of staff John Kelly are furious that details of the president’s national security briefing materials telling him not to congratulate Russian President Vladimir Putin were leaked to the press, according to a CNN report Wednesday.
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March 22, 2018 10:29am
- virtualmark
  
  Um, that’s not a leak from the “Deep State” (whatever that might be) – that is a leak from Trump’s own White House staff.
  
  The Trump White House continues to operate like an episode of Game of Thrones.
  
  Jeb Bush was right … Trump was the chaos candidate, and he’s the chaos President.
  
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  March 22, 2018 3:34pm
RF

I was watching question time in the house yesterday.

I was gobsmacked by Megan Woods.

She reminded me when I used to blow up balloons for the kids at Xmas.

Sometimes one would over inflate and when let go before tying off would fly around the room making farting noises before collapsing in a deflated heap.

Just saying.
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March 22, 2018 10:41am
- softail 1450
  
  RF ,yes it unbelievable that megan woods whos mouth is so small has managed to wack in that much grub that she now has the same shape no matter where you view her from,willow jean prime has added at least 20 kg to her frame in six or seven short months as well, not to mention the class clown shane (the tosser) jones hes been shoulders deep in the bellamies free trough as well.
  these bastards are probably eating more in dollars than a great number of nz families have to run their entire households on ,its infuriating actually.
  
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  March 22, 2018 3:09pm
- DigNap15
  
  Megan Woods is a disgrace to womanhood.
  She looks like that girl in that Aussie comedy series Kath and Kim.
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:24pm
Fletch

Meanwhile, in the U.K a man made a joke video on youtube of his girlfriend’s dog doing a Nazi salute and is actually prosecuted for hate speech.

Scottish YouTube personality Count Dankula — real name Mark Meechan — was found guilty at Glasgow Sherrif Court Tuesday of a hate crime, and potentially faces two months in prison after recording a video of his girlfriend’s dog doing Nazi salutes.

Reporting from inside the courtroom, journalist and street organiser Tommy Robinson said Meechan had been found guilty of being “Grossly Offensive” under the Communications Act of 2003 and will be sentenced this afternoon.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/20/youtuber-count-dankula-found-guilty-in-shtposting-case-by-british-court/

In the meantime, shoplifting is rampant as the Police will not spare the manpower to investigate any theft where the value of the stolen item is under 200 pounds.

Shoplifting and reports of theft in shops have almost doubled in just 12 months, new figures show, with police blamed for ignoring physical crimes as they focus on “hate crime” and online comments.

There were an estimated 950,000 incidents of theft last year in shops of under 3,000 square foot, rising from 575,000 in the previous year, the Association of Convenience Stores’ (ACS) 2018 Crime Report revealed.

The organisation’s crime survey further estimated that there were more than 13,400 reported incidents of violence in shops last year, but many more could have gone unreported.

The sudden rise in crimes comes after many UK police forces introduced a policy of only investigating theft if a value of £200 or more is stolen, with those stealing less than the threshold being dealt with by post in some cases.

Critics say that criminals are exploiting the new rules and that small-scale theft has been effectively decriminalised in UK shops.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/21/crimewave-shoplifting-doubles-police-drop-theft-investigations-hate-crime/
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March 22, 2018 10:49am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Take a minute to view this video that is what Count Dankula was convicted for, he explains his comedic motive in thick scottish at the start. Any reasonable person will be dumbfounded at this verdict.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYslEzHbpus&bpctr=1521675942
  
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  March 22, 2018 12:19pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch, and UN,
  
  Members of the Jewish community did not find it amusing according to this report ,
  
  “..Jewish groups were incensed by the video, with the Board of Deputies of British Jews calling it “sickening” and encouraging police to investigate Meechan.
  
  The Scottish Council of Jewish Communities said anti-Semitism should not be regarded “as a joke,” with director Ephraim Borowski telling the Mirror that “to regard the meticulously planned and industrialized murder of six million people solely on the grounds of their ethnicity as a joke is outrageous…”
  
  https://www.timesofisrael.com/scottish-man-arrested-for-teaching-dog-to-give-nazi-salute/
  
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  March 22, 2018 5:03pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    You can only used faux manufactured outrage for so long until people just get sick of it and wonder “what is it that you’re trying to hide”
    
    http://takimag.com/article/denial_is_dead_david_cole/print#axzz5ASV7xQq1
    
    Ah, Auschwitz. Yes, here’s where we still have a problem. Auschwitz is why Irving, Weber, and I are unlikely to be invited to the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s fall cotillion. If the Einsatzgruppen killings and the Reinhard extermination program are parts 1 and 2, respectively, of the Holocaust, there are genuine problems with what is commonly claimed to be part 3—that in 1943 Auschwitz-Birkenau was “renovated” to become an ultra-super be-all end-all extermination facility. To me, the evidence just isn’t there, and the evidence that does exist calls that claim into question.
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:00pm
Fletch

SJW Disney has removed the blaster weapons from the posters for the new Han Solo movie, because, guns, right?

https://movieweb.com/han-solo-movie-posters-gun-free/

The altered movie posters show the main characters basically standing around…lol. Pathetic… It’s a laser gun.
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March 22, 2018 11:06am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  So in the remastered 50th anniversary version of Star Wars in 2027 we can expect Han to not shoot Greedo first, or last, but rather to invite him to express himself in an entirely non-judgemental manner in a space safe from all white cis-gendered heteronormative microaggressions through the medium of interpretive dance?
  
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  March 22, 2018 12:24pm
cmm

Did anyone see the Humanity Star?

I looked a few times (right place, right time) and didn’t see it. It is now supposed to be burning up in the next 24 hours. I’m wondering whether it was just a myth.

stuff: “The “Humanity Star” satellite put into space by Rocket Lab in January in an attempt to inspire and unite humanity will burn-up and fall to Earth within days. ”

Retch/puke… a disco ball is an “attempt to inspire and unite humanity”??? How fucking stupid can people be?
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March 22, 2018 11:17am
- softail 1450
  
  cmm,absolutely correct nothing but fucking glittering space junk ,its lucky it wasnt a two hundred million dollar satelite FFS.
  Half a million identified and radar trackable bits are all ready floating around up there and these fucking idiots are throwing up glitter balls and old sports cars ,the bastards .
  
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  March 22, 2018 3:17pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    The ‘disco ball’ will burn to harmless dust on re-entry. A bit of showy of celebration by Rocket Lab for their incredible achievement of sending satellites into space from NZ. Well done!
    
    Wasn’t as effective as he hoped but fabulous and harmless fun. ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 3:37pm
oob

GIMME ME FWAG BWACK! GIMME ME FWAG BWACK!

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/greenpeace-again-refused-charity-status-board-accuses-illegal-activities
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March 22, 2018 11:19am
KiWombat

Moving around the West Coast I’m impressed at the “get on with it” attitude we see here.

There’s no help from government, not even a ministerial visit to cyclone affected areas – and I am struck by the level of ability amongst the governed, but the complete lack of ability amongst the governing !
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March 22, 2018 11:28am
- Happychappy
  
  Yes and why because West Coasters continually break the law and have done so for years. Then when it comes back to bite them on the arse it is everybody else is fault never their own.
  
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  March 22, 2018 11:56am
  - KiWombat
    
    Interesting comment HC – we have actually had Courthouse closures over this side – from memory Whataroa Courthouse was closed because it was only opened one or two days per year. And it serviced about half the West Coast !
    
    The law is a bit thin on the coast – obviously not much activity to keep them busy ! The police stationed in Franz have an enormous area to cover, so just as well there’s not much crime for them to be bothered with !
    
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    March 22, 2018 4:13pm
    - Happychappy
      
      KW I lived their in the 1970’s when Kevin Hannah was the Publican at Whataroa and great people like Alex Graham farmed their don’t get me wrong their is great friendly people on the coast but outsiders were called loopies and they liked the money that came with them. The big problem was that resulted in people taking their jobs and coasters didn’ like that in them years as it also encouraged people to go back for the whitebait season and other activity that made them a quid.
      
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      March 22, 2018 5:04pm
- mandk
  
  Makes you wonder why the silly buggers keep voting Labour.
  
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  March 22, 2018 12:03pm
  - Komata
    
    mandk
    
    Re: ‘Makes you wonder why the silly buggers keep voting Labour’.
    
    ‘Tradition’ (My Great Grandfather was at Blackball); ‘Habit’ (My family has ALWAYS voted labour); A ‘distrust’ of anyone from ‘Over the Hill’; No other party has ever actually shown that it even understood the ‘Coast (despite H Clark’s famous comment about ‘Coasters being ‘Feral inbreds’; she was from Auckland!!)
    
    There are no doubt other reasons, but these will do for starters.
    
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    March 22, 2018 12:54pm
MrTips

A day in the Life of A Princess….

A dingy hovel in Parliament that could be mistaken for the U19 Old Fallopians dressing room….

Robbo: why the hell does he insist on us meeting here? It smells weird.
Cindy: I know, the air’s so transparent you could cut it with a knife eh?
Curran: Any cameras in here?
Robbo: what?
Curran: oh nothing….
Nashey: (posing) check out me arms bro….lifting does that to yah..
Robbo: oh fuck, here we go….
Cindy: you should see Clark’s guns Nashey…
Woods: everyone else has….
Cindy: what the fuck Woodsey…C’mon..I mean what the fuck….
Woods: I didn’t say anything Jacinda…
Twyford: yeah, along with Kirt’s eh Woodsey….you buggered up my press release on 1500 new state homes in Ngaio…I coulda been a contender….
Nashey: I really should see the doc about these huge lumps on my biceps….check it….(poses to Curran)
Parker: piss off Nashey…
Davis: fuck, here he comes…………

Trumpets blast, door opens…in walks Fletcher Tablet….

Tablet: (loudly) all rise for His Eternal Eminence, the Rt Hon, the King of Swing, the Master Blaster, Our great Leader, the one…the only WINSTONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Cindy: (under her breath)…go on……be leader they said…easy as they said….
Winston walks in
Jackson: (chuckling…whispers to Little)…Lord Fahqwad…..(both chuckle)…
Winston: now look here…I’m the bloody leader of this show and you’ll all listen up. Where’s the girl?
Cindy: me?
Winston: ah right. Now, June 13 will be my Coronation. I want no fuck-ups OK?
Cindy: eh?
Winston: didn’t you know dear? Oh that’s right……(entire NZF crew bar Mark laugh loudly)…. I’m being crowned King on the 13th after your abdication…ahm…..didn’t they tell you?
Cindy: no one tells me anything it seems.
Shane: (tries to hug Cindy) ……..oh c’mon darls. Uncle Shane’ll cheer you up
Winston: cut it out Ron Jeremy…..or I’ll cut it up….
Shane: Oh jeez boss, not the Elite Gold card….
Winston: too bloody right. Now, about my crown….

Cindy: (in her head)…must check if I can get WFF whilst on leave…..can’t bloody wait…
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March 22, 2018 11:57am
- stephieboy
  
  Mr Tips . such boring scripting ZZZZZzzz… !
  
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  March 22, 2018 2:09pm
  - Garbageman
    
    As opposed to 22Ks worth of utter bullshit of which at least 21K are almost identical comments eh Mr infowars Breitbart Trumpster blah blah
    rinse & repeat daily
    LOL
    ZZZZZzzzzzz
    
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    March 22, 2018 3:11pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Garbageman , not my fault that posters here hang on very word Alex Jones , Breitbart or Trump says .
      
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      March 22, 2018 4:35pm
Manolo

What Islam does best: paedophilia.
https://www.steynonline.com/8528/of-the-remenant-nedeth-nat-enquere

Because, as in Rotherham, it was white working-class girls being gang-raped by “Asian” men – “Asian” being the coy euphemism for Muslim males of Pakistani origin…
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March 22, 2018 12:38pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, rubbish Certain Muslims do Pedophilia as do certain Catholic priests and Protestant pastors .
  
  Not all obviously !
  
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  March 22, 2018 2:07pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    And school teachers. But none of these have over 1000 victims over 10 years in a place the size of Telford !
    
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    March 22, 2018 6:57pm
Kimbo

So we’ve won the toss and inserted England in the first cricket test. Good to see Kane Williamson not afraid to take a risk. A bit of green on pitch and a bit of cloud cover in Auckland today. Need at least three wickets in the first session, preferably both Cook and Root to justify that decision, because this pitch looks like it will flatten out and be good for batting. As per Geoffrey Boycott, line and length “in ‘t corridor of uncertainty” to get the batsmen playing needed from Boult and Southee especially, but also Wagner and de Grandhomme. Is about creating pressure.
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March 22, 2018 1:56pm
- Poppa
  
  Cook gone so good so far
  
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  March 22, 2018 2:22pm
  - Kimbo
    
    And now Root! Yeeha! ?
    
    And England only have five specialist batsmen. Should be looking to knock ‘em over for less than 200.
    
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    March 22, 2018 2:27pm
  - Poppa
    
    Two gone now
    
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    March 22, 2018 2:28pm
    - Brigitte
      
      Four down in fact.
      
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      March 22, 2018 2:42pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Three! Boult on fire. Beautiful line, length and movement and their middle order exposed to the new nut. Get in there, Black Caps, like a fox in a hen house! ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 2:36pm
  - Kimbo
    
    ~~Three!~~ Four! ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 2:43pm
    - Brigitte
      
      Five!
      
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      March 22, 2018 2:49pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Six!
        
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        March 22, 2018 2:52pm
      - Poppa
        
        Sorry Kimbo my finger slipped & reported you
        
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        March 22, 2018 3:00pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Five!! And Boult and Southee are still in their opening spell, 18 for five. Forget bowling ‘em out for less than 200. Today may be the day New Zealand’s most shameful stat, the lowest test innings score of 26, also against England at Eden Park in 1954-55 gets wiped from the record books! ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 2:48pm
    - Brigitte
      
      I had high hopes that record would be beaten by Oz a few years back when they lowered their own record for the fall of the 9th wicket (from 25 to 21) but the last wicket stand got them over 40. So, no guarantees.
      
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      March 22, 2018 2:51pm
    - trout
      
      8 down for 23 – what a collapse. From 2pm to 3pm the Black cap bowlers were competing for hits with the Opposition taking the Government apart at question time. This Government is hopeless -they have no answers; all they can say is that the Nats did nothing for the last nine years. Go the Black Caps!
      
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      March 22, 2018 3:08pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Bairstow gone, 18 for 6 and we are into the tail!
    
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    March 22, 2018 2:51pm
    - Brigitte
      
      The way they’re batting I think we got into the tail at 6 for 1!
      
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      March 22, 2018 2:53pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Now 23 for 7 and that’s a five wicket bag for Boult. Looks like Raval and Latham will be opening the batting in the first session of the test anyway! ?
        
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        March 22, 2018 3:01pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Now 23 for 8. Come on NZ! That record of 26 is nearly there!
        
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        March 22, 2018 3:04pm
      - Brigitte
        
        We’ll just have to wait a bit longer for that record to fall. The Overton window seems to have moved too far left and gone to the boundary (do you like the way I added politics into cricket there).
        
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        March 22, 2018 3:10pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Bugger!! Now 27 for 8. Yeah, I know, an hour ago I would have been ecstatic to be told we would have them at that score. ?
        
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        March 22, 2018 3:11pm
      - Kimbo
        
        The Overton window
        
        Impressive skills from you, Brigette. Moving it both ways like Boult and Southee. ?
        
        And Williamson takes a brilliant catch, 27 for 9! Un-be-lie-va-ble.
        
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        March 22, 2018 3:14pm
      - Poppa
        
        Carnage!
        
        Surely we can’t bat this bad
        
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        March 22, 2018 3:22pm
      - Kimbo
        
        England all out for 58. Brilliant. Even if we lose some time to rain the next few days this test is already well advanced. Latham and Raval need to hang around and take the shine off. As per the other great Yorkshire cricket saying, “thee can nay score roons back in ‘t pavilion!”
        
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        March 22, 2018 3:42pm
- MrTips
  
  England Rugby: “We’ve lost three in a row in the 6 Nations, surely you can’t be as disappointing as we have been?”
  
  England Cricket: “Hold my beer…”
  
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  March 22, 2018 3:21pm
  - Colville
    
    England managed to come 5th out of the six nations…but yes the cricketers seem to have out done them 🙂
    
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    March 22, 2018 3:49pm
JasonJohns

In russia Putin has won a sensational victory with 73% of the vote. The liberals in the US Deep State tried to stop Trump from recognising the legitimacy of Putin’s triumph and congratulating him, but Trumpy was defiant:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/21/trump-putin-congratulations-election-warning-security-briefing
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March 22, 2018 2:19pm
JasonJohns

A strong anti-globalist axis is emerging: Trump, Putin, Xi Jinping. Together these 3 strong leaders can defeat liberalism and multiculturalism.

Putin’s massive win shows that Trump can take out 40-45 states in 2020.
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March 22, 2018 2:20pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jason Johns , and restore the Pre Celtics to their rightful place in NZ History ??
  
  LOL!
  
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  March 22, 2018 3:37pm
JasonJohns

Putin and Trump…the two leaders of the free world will meet…
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/trump-calls-putin-says-two-plan-meet-not-distant-future-arms-race/
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March 22, 2018 2:22pm
JibberJabber

The footage from the Uber crash has been released,
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12018000

looks like the sensors may have failed, even if the driver was in control no way to avoid the collision.
A blood test from the victim may shed some light on her lack of awareness.
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March 22, 2018 2:38pm
- rangitoto
  
  Is the uber vehicle electric and therefore quiet? It sure seems that the pedestrian didn’t notice the approaching vehicle. In the dash cam footage, there was a rapid change of contrast where the pedestrian moved out of a heavily shadowed area. I wonder if that fooled the cars sensors.
  
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  March 22, 2018 3:54pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Might not of heard it but did she not notice the headlights?? The new LED lights on cars are pretty bright.
    
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    March 22, 2018 6:40pm
stephieboy

DIC for wheeling a bicycle across the roadway ?
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March 22, 2018 3:35pm
- rangitoto
  
  Didn’t your ~~mother~~ goat teach you to look both ways before crossing the road?
  
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  March 22, 2018 4:03pm
MrTips

Wow, Engerland all out for 58.
Better than the coalition of losers though….
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March 22, 2018 3:39pm
Inandout

Netflix is bringing out a series ‘Trump, an American Dream’. Stephie will be rushing out to join Netflix so he can minutely take apart each episode.
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March 22, 2018 4:10pm
Nostradamus

Thread analysis:
– Stephieboy comments: 21
– Total comments: 261

As All on Red said on 27 December:

Well stop going around the blog smearing your shit on everyone. You never debate anything but just behave like a rude little fuck.
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March 22, 2018 4:19pm
- stephieboy
  
  Nostradamus , you seem to suffer from the same obsession stalking issues that All on Wed suffers from.
  
  7,705 COMMENTS A bot of catching up to do with mates Nasska and Manolo .
  
  Tootle along little boy/ girl .
  
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  March 22, 2018 4:33pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Hey Stephie-dolt,
    
    You are a fuckwit.
    
    Thanks
    
    AC
    
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    March 22, 2018 4:38pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    Tootle along little boy/ girl
    
    Luckily for me, and unluckily for you, I’m not in your pre-teen demographic!
    
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    March 22, 2018 4:38pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Nostradamus , I could of sworn you are in the Toddler Tamer demographic !
      
      Unlucky for you !
      
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      March 22, 2018 4:46pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        I could of sworn you are in the Toddler Tamer demographic !
        
        It’s “could have” you illiterate person.
        
        Oh yes – and how did you feel when someone in your own team (Mikenmild) described you as “clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer“. There’s no chance of you making Kimbo’s pub quiz team then! By the way, Kimbo, I trust that the “clearly” in Mikenmild’s description is acceptable? 🙂
        
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        March 22, 2018 4:51pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Nostradamus
        
        Undoubtedly! ?
        
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        March 22, 2018 5:30pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Stephie
    The stats show clearly that you are the Stalker on Kiwiblog
    You seem to like bullying women too
    What’s that about.
    
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    March 22, 2018 5:07pm
    - stigie
      
      Jeez does Stiffy swing 3 ways..?
      
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      March 22, 2018 5:30pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Which 3 ways are you thinking about, Stigie? 🙂
        
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        March 22, 2018 5:38pm
      - nasska
        
        I don’t reckon lonely goatherds stuck in Mt Roskill worry too much about “ways” Nostra.
        
        When they have a sexual emergency a knothole in a tree will do. 🙂
        
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        March 22, 2018 5:45pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , first could you please help with enquiries regarding a notice put on the door at St Albans ,
      
      Ralph Taylor
      ( stephieboy from Kiwiblog )
      cyberbully and a
      
      PERVERT .
      
      It seems consistent with your overt obsessive behaviour that is all consuming and pathological .
      
      Furthermore you ,I believe, live in Auckland .
      
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      March 22, 2018 5:41pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        a notice put on the door at St Albans
        
        Evidence?
        
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        March 22, 2018 5:51pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        That was on the door at the Church?
        Looks pretty factual to me!
        Hahahahahahahaha
        Not me mate. But face it. You piss everybody off and no one likes you. Could be anyone.
        Because it’s you who has the obsessive trolling behaviour and who stalks everyone here and abuses them constantly.
        All day and every day.
        Hope that helps
        
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        March 22, 2018 5:59pm
      - Swifty
        
        Nostradamus – touche!
        
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        March 22, 2018 6:26pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Nostradamus , no ! More evidence and fact gathering . Far too early to make accusations and form conclusions. .
        
        Any ideas why someone would post that on the Church door ?
        
        1 It must be a poster on Kwiblog
        2 . Who lives in Auckland
        3 . Has an intense and pathological dislike of Stephie boy .
        
        Now please add some of your thoughts .
        
        Lets begin with those who have described me in those words . You could begin an d who seems to enjoy going over the minutiae as to who posts here , when and where etc
        
        Go to it ! .
        
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        March 22, 2018 6:37pm
      - nasska
        
        Is excommunication a possibility? 🙂
        
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        March 22, 2018 6:39pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        Go to it !
        
        I generally don’t feel inclined to help someone with such poor manners. And you still haven’t provided evidence that a “notice” (your description) was posted on the church door, particularly as your transcription of the notice has all the hallmarks of your writing style. Why should we believe you?
        
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        March 22, 2018 6:42pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”Any ideas why someone would post that on the Church door ?”…..
        
        The Godbotherers were too cheap to buy a letterbox? 🙂
        
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        March 22, 2018 6:46pm
      - Swifty
        
        Nostradamus – could it be a false flag?
        
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        March 22, 2018 6:52pm
      - Swifty
        
        nasska – clearly someone is modelling themselves on Martin Luther!
        
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        March 22, 2018 6:53pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Swifty
        
        clearly someone is modelling themselves on Martin Luther!
        
        Hmm. On the basis of stephiboy’s speculations and his appeal to Nostradamus’ database in order that the offender might be profiled, plus my occasional championing of the great German Reformer, and that gratuitous emphatic adverb, “clearly”, I’m almost prepared to confess it was me! ?
        
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        March 22, 2018 7:00pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Kimbo:
        
        Stephieboy told us that it’s “[f]ar too early to make accusations and form conclusions” – after apparently forming a conclusion and accusing All on Red of (how can I put this neutrally) delivering a notice to a church:
        
        It seems consistent with your overt obsessive behaviour that is all consuming and pathological . Furthermore you ,I believe, live in Auckland .
        
        If anyone is guilty of something, it’s Stephieboy, who’s guilty of multiple crimes against grammar and punctuation!
        
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        March 22, 2018 7:07pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Well, personally, I have to say that I’m very very (sorry Kimbo) disappointed about this- at the lack of ambition.
        Think big
        Get a Billboard!
        Just imagine, PERVERT up in lights.
        ?????????
        
        Edit, yes Nosty, I had noticed the direct accusation. Even though you were the one who did the stats! And others are rude back to him too!
        I think he’s a bit obsessed with me
        
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        March 22, 2018 7:14pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Nostradamus
        
        Yeah, but look at stephieboy’s process of elimination and apply it my circumstances:
        
        1. I’m a poster on Kiwiblog
        
        2. I live in Auckland, indeed a mere (for Jaffa’s) 25 minutes drive from St Albans.
        
        3. Some 27 months ago I decided, in response to stephieboy’s trolling and wilful refusal to acknowledge that the high proportion of drownings among the Pacific Island population was due to their collective casual attitude to safety around water, I cut stephieboy loose and refused to interact with him again. In the hands of a skilful prosecutor like Scott to ask sneaky leading questions to “counter the narrative” and a foreperson like Chuck Bird to lead a lackadaisical jury, that could interpreted as “an intense and pathological dislike”, I may be in trouble.
        
        Plus, If this was the Spanish Inquisition (and I note St Albans is in that Anglo-Catholic Tradition, so yet another potential reason for Kimbo’s “intense and pathological dislike”), or even Calvin in Geneva, I’d be voting to burn me at the stake. ?
        
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        March 22, 2018 7:40pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        so you are saying that you, Ralph Taylor are stephieboy on this blog and you are a Cyberbully and a Pervert?
        
        That’s very bold and kudos, admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.
        
        But while you are at it you should also look into your obsessive posting, atrocious reading comprehension, weak literacy and generally abusive and attacking manner of trolling on kiwiblog. Dedicating your life to it is not indicative of any degree of mental balance.
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:21pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Does anyone know how big the readership of Kiwiblog is?
        
        (I must admit I’ve only met one person in Gizzy who says they read Kiwiblog, but then, I don’t socialise with folks like you chaps…..)
        
        I assume the readership of KB is much larger than the commentariat.
        
        So it is not just Auckland commenters that need to be eliminated by careful analysis of past comments, but the entire Auckland/Greater Auckland KB readership must be considered to harbour an “alleged” notice poster.
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:55pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        I’m a bit late to the party but…
        
        Don’t live in Auckland
        Would visit in person
        Hate goats (cloven toe’d spawn of Satan) so would go to the church. Not the house tbh.
        
        Cross me out Stephie-busted. For now anyway.
        
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        March 22, 2018 10:22pm
rangitoto

I see that the loony left in the US have gone foaming at the mouth hatey at a hair salon that dared to reveal that they had styled Ivanka Trumps hair. FFS.
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March 22, 2018 4:23pm
Jack5

Renting a car in Australia?

Seems some rental firms are ripping off customers with a repairs scam, and if the customers try to head off the scam they are pursued by debt collectors.

https://www.smh.com.au/money/saving/charging-for-fake-repairs-makes-hire-car-firms-more-money-than-rentals-20180320-p4z56v.html
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March 22, 2018 4:26pm
Longknives

There is a lot of shit being flung at the English Cricketers after their woeful display today…
But I think someone should point out three things-

1) We have had more than our fair share of shockers in recent years.
2) We still have to bat on this track.
3) We are pretty shit at Test Cricket (Although we regularly boast of our T20 ‘Prowess’..)
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March 22, 2018 4:28pm
- Kimbo
  
  Boy, you are tough. I know for long periods we have indeed been “shit” at test cricket, but the last five years we’ve had a good record. Other than playing India away, or Aussie and South Africa both home and away we are unbeaten. No shame in that record, and we have a better record than Aussie in England and against Pakistan in Dubai. And our wickets in NZ, while being seamer-friendly (as they should be given our climactic conditions) are good for stroke makers. A bit different from when Richard Hadlee used to take bundles of wickets on green tops at Lancaster Park with variable bounce. ?
  
  Is one of the best NZ cricket teams I have seen, at least as good as the team Stephen Fleming had in the early to mid noughties, and just below the team of the mid 80s with Hadlee, Crowe, Wright, Coney, Smith, Bracewell and Chatfield in their pomp.
  
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  March 22, 2018 4:43pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Kimbo:
    
    NZ and England are just trying to steal the attention away from the Rabada show later today!
    
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    March 22, 2018 4:49pm
    - Kimbo
      
      That will be interesting…for the cricket. Two best teams in the world. Just wish they would stop jerking around and play and bugger the soap opera. But then, while Rabada probably shouldn’t have had his suspension lifted, as per my recent sledge to Sir Leslie’s Buttocks, no surprise that yet another series with Australia has turned mongrel. Always the same team. Great players, but shit sportsmen.
      
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      March 22, 2018 5:04pm
  - Longknives
    
    “A bit different from when Richard Hadlee used to take bundles of wickets on green tops at Lancaster Park”
    
    You’re just trying to turn me on now Kimbo…
    
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    March 22, 2018 4:56pm
    - Longknives
      
      “Is one of the best NZ cricket teams I have seen”
      
      Come on Kimbo- One shit hot performance with the ball/in the field doesn’t make them the ‘Greatest NZ team of all Time’.
      I am very conservative with my sporting accolades- I wait until they have stood the test of time before I label things ‘The Greatest Ever’ etc…
      (Especially this current mob who have labelled themselves ‘T20 Specialists’..Ugh!)
      
      *Though I must confess I am a big fan of Southee and Bolt- Both superb with the new ball..
      
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      March 22, 2018 5:03pm
      - Kimbo
        
        No, I’ve detailed their home and away record the last five years, and that’s the basis for my assessment, irrespective of today’s performance. We are a better team than the Windies, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, likely able to draw against the latter three in the subcontinent which is a good achievement, and we should beat them easily over here, as we have the last few seasons.
        
        This series will determine how we sit with England. I would back us to beat India at home as we did in 2013-14 (their away record is shit, btw). So only South Africa (whom we were unlucky not to draw to out here at the end of last season) and Australia are genuinely better and should beat us. I’m talking only test cricket, btw. As you know, I couldn’t give a damn about limited overs cricket in either form.
        
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        March 22, 2018 5:09pm
- Kimbo
  
  Our current test rating is four, one ahead of England. Which is fair enough.
  
  In English or NZ conditions, you would think seriously of picking Boult as a new ball bowler in. World XI, Southee is a good foll, Wagner an excellent specialist third bowler, maybe just behind Philander as the best in the world. Williamson is world class, Taylor just out of the top echelon. And Watling I reckon I should the best keeper batsman we have ever had.
  
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  March 22, 2018 4:50pm
MH

and not a pink ball in sight.
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March 22, 2018 4:40pm
RF

I see the commie chick is flapping her gums about what Obama said to her in private

Correct me if I am wrong but I though those conversations were private and not to be blerted out to the media.

She is proving to be a Class A Airhead.
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March 22, 2018 5:50pm
- Longknives
  
  The self-professed ‘People’s Princess’ can’t be relied upon to be telling the truth though RF- Remember she lied through her gargantuan teeth about the whole Trump/Trudeau thing (‘Trump thought I was his wife!!’ etc ) and embarrassed the hell out of our Country..
  
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  March 22, 2018 6:03pm
  - RF
    
    I see Obama was presented with a whale tooth. Is Cindy missing a tooth ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 6:20pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Does CITES permit that?
      
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      March 22, 2018 8:18pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        An export permit is required before any Whale material (bone, teeth,,) can be taken out of the Country
        http://www.doc.govt.nz/about-us/international-agreements/endangered-species/cites-species/
        
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        March 22, 2018 9:20pm
- Ceepar
  
  On the TV news tonight they reported Obama asked Jacinda when the baby is due and the answer was in a few weeks. I thought the baby was due mid June, not sure if this qualifies as a few weeks?
  
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  March 22, 2018 6:18pm
- waikatogirl
  
  She was smiling like a cheshire cat and gushing like a 15 year old school girl seeing her favourite singer. ?
  
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  March 22, 2018 6:44pm
  - sooty
    
    She’s youth adjacent. Don’t you know!
    
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    March 22, 2018 7:21pm
  - Longknives
    
    I’m pretty sure Jacinda is only in her early 20s herself!
    Unless all her ‘Our Generation’ talk to Varsity and High School Students at the last Election was all utter bullcrap??….
    
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    March 22, 2018 7:32pm
Odakyu-sen

Here’s something different.

The great white (strawberry) hope in Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pns6I6IhVaY
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March 22, 2018 5:59pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Odakyu-sen, White Jewel strawberries won’t sell in NZ as they won’t stand out on whipped cream covered pavlova. ? ?
  
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  March 22, 2018 6:56pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Damn!
    
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    March 22, 2018 7:41pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Haven’t we all been told to consume gallons of anthocyanins each day?
      White strawberries are mutants.
      
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      March 22, 2018 7:55pm
waikatogirl

The union delegate for the Lyttleton wharfies strike is concerned that some of the “workers” have had to get loans to tide them through while they are on strike. Apparently, there is no alternative!

How about you go back to work? Your employers will be happy to pay for your services as they did before you went on strike.

At least the media did report the strike is disrupting Christchurch businesses.
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March 22, 2018 6:49pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Does that mean the Union has not salted away a contingency for member support?
  They haven’t raided the piggy bank to fund the Labour Party, have they?
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:12pm
ex-golfer

Watching Parliament today……Shane Jones is the latest Minister to be placed in witless-protection with Winston himself answering a question on Jones behalf.

I thought Jones was meant to be a master-debater……..oh, hang on.
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March 22, 2018 6:57pm
Fletch

I posted about this yesterday, but didn’t have a link. Well here it is –

Obama is on his first visit to New Zealand and organisers are pulling out all the stops – from actor Sam Neill as one of his hosts, to flying in chef Peter Gordon from London to cook for him.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12016656
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March 22, 2018 7:13pm
- nasska
  
  I’d almost forgotten about the useless bastard but as the latest bout of adulation demonstrates, his ability to give socialists itty bitty hardons is amazing. If they ever stopped & did a bit of rationalising the neutrons in their heads would collide. Eg:
  
  Obama bombs the shit out of underdeveloped nations & nobody bats an eye.
  
  Trump calls underdeveloped nations shitholes & everybody loses their minds.
  
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  March 22, 2018 7:37pm
  - stephieboy
    
    nassaka , and Trump gives the full thumbs up for the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the 2011 bombing of Libya .
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:15pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , your point escapes me ?
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:14pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Another Castlecliffian.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503426&objectid=11974439
    
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    March 22, 2018 8:26pm
Fletch

FFS, Seven Sharp reporters are actually swooning over Obama’s motorcade… hoping to catch a glimpse of him, etc.
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March 22, 2018 7:28pm
Monique Watson

You are a cunt:
Aimed at no-one in particular, I’m just bored as fuck and otherwise reduced to playing with fridge magnets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0doSWS0Fj24
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March 22, 2018 7:32pm
- nasska
  
  You need a hobby Monique. Try getting pissed & swapping husbands. 🙂
  
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  March 22, 2018 7:41pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Whip a crochet doily rug, Monique.
  Everyone admires a lady handy with her hands.
  https://crochetinpaternoster.wordpress.com/2014/04/11/pink-doily-t-shirt-rug-pienk-doily-t-shirt-mat-3/
  
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  March 22, 2018 7:46pm
nasska

In 1890, Henri Poincare proposed the Poincare recurrence theorem which postulates that a system will return to its original state after a sufficiently long amount of time. Theoretical physicist Don Page used the theorem while discussing information loss in black holes & asserted that the Poincare recurrence time for a system as massive as the visible universe is 10^10^10^10^2.08 of any unit of time: seconds, Planck times, millennia, whatever…the number is so large that units are frivolous. This means that if you waited 10^10^10^10^2.08 millennia, long after all stars have died, all matter is devoured by black hole singularities & subsequently ejected, leaving the universe as a barren waste of Hawking radiation, you will see the universe reset itself into what it is today, with the Milky Way, our solar system, the Planet Earth, all of its creatures, all of our technology, culture or political affiliations & we’ll still be waiting for stephieboy to post a coherent comment on General Debate. 🙂
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March 22, 2018 8:13pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  No-one has ever seen a black hole, Nasska.
  I think they are God’s joke on you.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:30pm
ex-golfer

Now the JAG is at it:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/102507145/minister-for-women-julie-anne-genter-says-old-white-men-should-move-on-from-company-boards

As if we needed reminding of the toxicity of the Greens here she comes with her “all old white men should be put out the pasture” line.
Forget about experience.
Forget about ability.
We just must have women on boards, capable or not…….because….feelz.

Here’s the first opportunity for National to use one of those Greens questions:
Question to the Minister for Womens Affairs: Does she stand by all her statements?
With a follow -up: Which of the following attributes apply to her recent statement: sexist, racist, ageist or all of the above?
And a further follow up: Did she consult the Deputy Prime -minister before making her statement given he is a man aged 72, and is the only reason she holds Ministerial privilege?
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March 22, 2018 8:22pm
- Peter
  
  There is one criteria for a board:
  
  Competence
  
  The real question, JAG, is why aren’t enough [insert your favourite non-white-male group here] competent enough to be selected as board members?
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:49pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Climate science has typically been dominated by middle aged, balding, white guys.
  
  https://realclimatescience.com/2018/03/diversity-in-climate-science/
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:08pm
  - stephieboy
    
    MW , can we include climate change deniers like Donald Trump at 71 and Charles Koch at 79 ?
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:35pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Middle-age is taken to be between 45-65 years.
      
      So clearly your candidates do not fall into the correct category.
      
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      March 22, 2018 11:04pm
      - Jack5
        
        When I was a young hoon, we thought middle age was 30 to 50, and in our turbulent, half-formed minds we associated folk in that age range with the Middle Ages (Medieval times).
        
        Those of us who hadn’t read the Canterbury Tales regarded that period as a time of chastity belts, condoms not yet invented, donkeys instead of motor bikes, people often lousy, and only candles for lighting and so everyone they went to bed early.
        
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        March 22, 2018 11:41pm
Monique Watson

Haha I love that Nasska. Apart from the chance of Stephieboy and Penny Bright repopulating. Oh God. There’s a thought. Imagine the offspring from such a coupling.
Your theory aligns with the Fermi paradox.
Either way we’re destined to be lumped with the likes of cretinous lefty individuals for the foreseeable.
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March 22, 2018 8:33pm
- stephieboy
  
  Monique Watson , definitely alt right tendencies lurking inside you ,
  
  https://www.funnyjunk.com/Alt+right/hmguLuz/
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:51pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Squawk: alt-right
    
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    March 22, 2018 10:48pm
Jack5

Dame Devoid and even the Chief of Police have spoken out about what they see as the need for hate speech law in NZ.

I don’t recall seeing mention on Kiwiblog of this hate-speech case in Britain – prosecution of a comedian who taught his girl friend’s dog, a pug, to do the Nazi salute (which the Nazis copied from the Ancient Romans):

http://www.newsweek.com/youtuber-count-dankula-who-taught-dog-nazi-salute-faces-jail-hate-crime-853470
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March 22, 2018 8:45pm
- Jack5
  
  Whoops! Sorry Fletch et al with posts from this morning.
  
  I must stop reading General Debate thread from the bottom up.
  I must stop reading General Debate thread from the bottom up.
  I must stop reading General Debate thread from the bottom up.
  I must stop reading General Debate thread from the bottom up.
  I must stop reading General Debate thread from the bottom up.
  I must stop reading General Debate thread from the bottom up.
  I must stop reading General Debate thread from the bottom up.
  I must stop reading General Debate thread from the bottom up.
  …..
  …..
  I must stop reading General Debate thread from the bottom up.
  
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  March 22, 2018 8:53pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    8.44am Jack:
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/general_debate_22_march_2018.html#comment-2168055
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:20pm
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO , as I remarked your voices getting the better of you ?
      
      https://www.healthgrades.com/symptoms/hearing-voices
      
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      March 22, 2018 9:46pm
  - Fletch
    
    LOL, I do that sometimes. Kiwiblog GD is often a TL;DR when you’re trying to see if someone else has posted about something.
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:24pm
- Jack5
  
  Whoops No. 2:
  
  Just digging into the origins of the Fascist and Nazi salutes.
  
  This is a controversial topic. Perhaps the Fascist/Nazi salute comes not the Ancient Romans, but from more modern impressions of how the Ancient Romans saluted – the impressions of Western artists of two or three centuries ago.
  
  Soldiers of Rome beat their fists on their chests as a symbol of loyalty to the Republic/Empire, but they did not salute in the way modern soldiers do, argue some historians.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute
  
  AND:
  
  https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-the-Roman-salute-and-the-Nazi-Fascist-salute
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:23pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack 5 , a pug dog doing the Nazi salute that offended many Jews,
  
  https://www.timesofisrael.com/scottish-man-arrested-for-teaching-dog-to-give-nazi-salute/ ,
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:39pm
  - Jack5
    
    Paw taste?
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:43pm
nasska

*First woman on the Moon:*

W: Houston, we have a problem.

Tech team: What?

Woman: Never mind.

TT: What’s the problem?

Woman: Nothing.

TT: Please tell us?

Woman: You know the problem.
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March 22, 2018 9:01pm
- stephieboy
  
  nassaka , you need to continue too brush up on your weak and feeble attempts at humour .
  
  This might inspire you ,
  
  https://weheartit.com/entry/31959263
  
  LOL
  
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  March 22, 2018 9:42pm
  - Jack5
    
    Nassaka? Nassaka?
    
    Are you saying Nassaka is Bantu or Kikuyu or perhaps even a little Baka or Aka?
    
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    March 22, 2018 9:50pm
Monique Watson

Oh my @Jack5
Dontcha know, you don’t read GD thread from the bottom up. You read it from the bottom of your glass.
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March 22, 2018 9:10pm
Jack5

What’s become of Griff?

No marijuana champion gets as wound up about weed as Griff.

If you are still reading Kiwiblog, Griff, here’s something for you:

Secondhand marijuana smoke is more dangerous than secondhand tobacco smoke.

Legalise marijuana, then tax hell out of it!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/20/secondhand-smoke-more-dangerous-marijuana-tobacco/
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March 22, 2018 9:41pm
- Jack5
  
  A down tick – is that you Griff?
  
  FFS come out of your Global Warming dugout for a whiff of fresh air.
  
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  March 22, 2018 10:10pm
noskire

I have said it before, and I will say it yet once again. These bastards will not last a full term in office.
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March 22, 2018 9:48pm
Jack5

This seems a bit rough to me …

A Cabinet minister takes her message on feminism into a primary school and tells the children it’s time for “old white men” to get off company boards.

What is the school doing inviting Genter into the classroom to harangue the kids in a way that many parents would regard as more feminazi than feminist?

Put this alongside Labour’s moves to crush charter schools, and you have a picture of a strategy to mould state schools into a propaganda system for the Left.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/102507145/minister-for-women-julie-anne-genter-says-old-white-men-should-move-on-from-company-boards
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March 23, 2018 12:03am
noskire

Professor Dr Jordan Peterson on compulsory political education: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-7YGGCE9es
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