General Debate 21 March 2018

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peterwn

Penny Bright seems to think she is still dealing with Council over the rating sale of her property. She had better get some legal advice (even from a Citizens Advice Bureau) pretty quick or she will look a total idiot and be badly out of pocket. She does not realise that the Council is now out of the picture and its only future involvement is to receive the unpaid rates from the Public Trustee. The High Court is running the sale and will engage a land agent to conduct the sale by auction (I think). Presumably the agent will ask Penny if she is willing to have open homes, allow viewings and whether she will move out by proposed settlement date. She will no doubt refuse not realising that these things are no impediment to a sale. All this will is drive down the price buyers are prepared to pay and the buyer is likely to be someone with steel balls. The buyer can have her forcibly removed by the Court effectively at her expense.
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March 21, 2018 8:01am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  There was a recent case in Auckland where it took something like a year to get rid of a state house tenant that refused to move, seems like police wouldn’t get involved.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:04am
  - fernglas
    
    That was different; it was a tenancy tribunal order. This is through the High Court, as peterwn points out, and the High Court has greater power to physically remove people through its bailiffs
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:10am
    - srylands
      
      I expect the tv cameras will be there to view her being dragged out screaming. And that is what it will come to unless she blinks.
      
      Presumably it is not too late for her to pay what she owes plus costs and the sale is called off.
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:21am
      - peterwn
        
        That is right, she can pay right up to the time the hammer falls. There was a case with a mortgagee sale (similar process) where the owner robbed a bank and dashed to the auction room with the money to stop a sale.
        
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        March 21, 2018 8:29am
      - Callum
        
        After years of saying she was withholding the rates until the Council was more transparent she has eventually admitted she doesn’t actually have the cash put aside to pay the amount owing.
        
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        March 21, 2018 8:46am
      - peterwn
        
        Callum – Her property is mortgage free, this is why the farce continues (otherwise the lender would have paid the rates and tacked it on the loan). In her case the LVR for a loan would be so low that she should have no trouble getting a loan to pay the rates. However she may need to go to a second tier lo-doc lender and pay double digit interest.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:38am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        She’ll be kicking and screaming all right, just as she was when she was arrested in the Occupy Auckland protests
        
        https://youtu.be/vSqdialKkWw
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:04am
      - sooty
        
        They could sell tickets to see her getting dragged kicking and screaming out the gate and thrown in the paddy wagon.
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:22am
  - peterwn
    
    Prospective buyers will factor this in when they decide their bidding levels. The more she wriggles now the more this is going to cost her. As it is the High Court will want a several grand from her in addition to the unpaid rates. Delays will not faze the Council. A penalty of 10% is added each six months whereas the Council can borrow at 5% pa or less.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:20am
- KevOB
  
  I think the silly woman is determined to force as much publicity as she can–now the Courts are bullying here too so her cause must be just. Expect an application to the Court of Appeal to foster publicity. The Supreme Court awaits–how dare they turn down an application for a hearing.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:22am
  - peterwn
    
    AFAIK she has either exhausted her appeal rights or they are out of time. She could theoretically sue the agent for not getting the best price (the agent is bound to use its best endeavours to get a good price and would need to see if Penny will allow viewings and whether she will give vacant possession) and could legally try and resist an eviction order. But she does not seem to realise that her resistance will cost her big money. I doubt she can argue that the sale did not get enough publicity – it will be a major news event when it goes on the market and no doubt the agent’s site and the TradeMe ad for it will get lots of hits.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:40am
    - Colville
      
      As long as the agent advertises the property widely and has an open sales process (auction or tender opened in front of court official) its pretty well impossible to challenge the $$ at the end of it.
      
      The agent will have budgeted for a good advertising campaign and the high court would be more than willing to spend Penny’s money on it to ensure their collective arses are covered.
      
      Penny cant be forced to give acess for open homes and at the end of the sale process she might rip out the hot water cylinder or stove and take it with her so any purchaser will calculate that into it too.
      She might have kicked holes in the gib…so all that will be taken into account.
      
      But if it was me looking to buy it I would be going around there on the morning of the auction and looking in all the windows then bid hard. If I won I would pay ASAP then go around and if Penny doesnt open the door I would kick it in and go inside with a couple of large lads from the local 2nd hand shop and sell anything that isnt nailed down.
      
      Then turn off (and lock) the power, gas and water and smash the toilet pan.
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:59am
      - alex Masterley
        
        I expect the agents appointed will be Barfoots who have been the registrars’ go to guys.
        The registrar will also, most likely appoint Simposn Grierson to act on his behalf.
        This appointment will add cost to the sale process, plus $5K i would expect.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:09am
      - peterwn
        
        The post-auction acts you have mentioned would be unlawful. The best you could do is to wait until the house is empty, then break in and change the locks.
        In reality the buyer would ask the court to hold back $100,000 or so from sale proceeds to pay for a High Court eviction order and its enforcement.
        Now that someone else has a prospective interest in the house, if she damages the house or removes fixtures from this point on this would be a criminal matter. A prospective buyer is faced with so many uncertainties and this will significantly reduce what a buyer would offer. RV is $1.425M and land value is $1.24M and if I was a buyer I would bid on the basis of land value less likely demolition cost and ‘inconvenience’ costs, say $0.9M to $1.0M.
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:18am
    - KevOB
      
      I agree but we are not dealing with reason but the opportunity for grandstanding. Penny Bright seems to have probable means and there is legal aid too.
      
      Any good counsel should be able to find 10 arguments meriting an appeal. There are almost always some legal side issues that the law could be made clearer on. Has she exhausted her appeal rights–isn’t that arguable? (I’ve been in that place where any possible issue could be on its way to the CA and was.) If Penny has the pennies this could still be going in 2020.
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:05am
      - peterwn
        
        At the end of the day this does not matter now. Even if she can find some basis for appeal, it would seem very doubtful she could get legal aid especially when she has a $1.425M un-mortgaged asset – or if she gets legal aid she would have to pay it back when the house is sold (rather it would be hooked out of sale proceeds while the Public Trustee has the money).
        The Council at this point could not care less. It has met its legal obligations and obligations to ratepayers by completing preparations so the High Court can conduct a rating sale. It will get the rates plus about 20% penalties each year in due course (even if Penny is carried out feet first before that happens) whereas the Council can borrow at less than 5% pa.
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:42am
      - fernglas
        
        1) Penny does not really care about the money; it is the opportunity to make a noise that counts with her.
        
        2) Penny does not use lawyers. She considers herself smarter (possible) and better informed about the law (demonstrably wrong).
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:19am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Silly yes, but she’s also well organised. Yesterday she had a platoon of mates ringing ZB praising her virtues and saying she’s a wonderful person.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:44am
    - holysheet
      
      They are the same ones who read the womens weekly and gush about crockery.
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:56am
    - Happychappy
      
      You would bet your bottom dollar that doggone7 would have been one of Penny’s adoring admirers so no doubt he will make a comment some time today.
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:06am
- peterwn
  
  A news item says it will be sold by tender on 24 April (rather than an auction, but the agent probably advised a tender would get a better price). Not sure whether 24 April is when it goes on the market or when tenders close. Not sure on this but the Court may have told the agent that there need not be viewings and that there will be no vacant possession.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:58am
  - alex Masterley
    
    The registrar has the option under the act to sell by either auction or tender.
    At the moment there is about a 30% clearance rate on auctions so the tender process is probably the best way to go to achieve a sale.
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:12am
    - peterwn
      
      In the circumstances it would definitely sell at auction since the ‘reserve’ would be only the amount required to pay the outstanding rates and to meet costs. The prospective agent would assess whether tender or auction would get the best price for the court’s decision.
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:31am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Tender removes her opportunities for grandstanding 🙂
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:50am
- Im Right
  
  I notice in her interview she states there will be a ‘tidal wave’ of support for her, she will have sycophants I’m sure that will stick by her, but a tidal wave is in her delusional mind only. After all even if you do agree with her stance even the ones that agree are STILL paying their rates if they own a property, probably most are state house renters angry with anyone and everyone as they have not made the best decisions in their life to date…you cannot get 100% behind someone with a million dollar house who when sold will still have a million dollars in the bank. Not unlike the American white students protesting and marching against capitalism and championing the poor whilst their trust fund remains topped up and/or mummy and daddy will always be there to bail them out of any financial hole.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:04am
- KKKKatee
  
  There is always the option of setting up a “Give a Little’ page. Every man and his dog these days seem to find a reason to hold out the begging bowl.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:32am
  - stigie
    
    Gawd, Johnboy needs to come up north and save her from this complete embarrassment !~
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:21am
- Dave Mann
  
  I know she’s an idiot etc etc etc…. but I feel sorry for her.
  
  She must have some terrible mental problems to be acting so crazy for so many years. She’s not going to come out of this a millionaire…. she’ll lucky to clear half of the land+capital value; and for what exactly?
  
  Poor sad delusional woman. I wonder if she was always such a self-destructive fool, or did she gradually descend into madness?
  
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  March 21, 2018 4:22pm
DifferentPerspective

Get out to see Obama today before he gets his orange jumpsuit!
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March 21, 2018 8:02am
- radvad
  
  Obama, the filthy one percenter.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:06am
  - igm
    
    Top marks to the mayor of Tauranga. Hope his excuse was a ruse, as he appears to be decent, not a troughing wimp like the others.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:10am
    - Paulus
      
      The current Mayor of Tauranga was in his commercial life an Undertaker.
      He left his “practice” as a charitable organisation when he retired.
      He is a fence sitter now.
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:35am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Obama – buys a house, builds a wall.
    
    You can’t make that shit up!
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:24am
  - backster
    
    How much are we going to pay? I heard mention of an Obama Foundation to foster young leadership…shades of the crooked Clinton Foundation to which we contributed.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:17am
- peterwn
  
  Then he might as well meet his future cell mate while he is in NZ.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:06am
  - dave_c_
    
    Yer, and how much is NZ (taxpayer) forking out to facilitate the visit of this war criminal.
    I see there will be no fewer than 6 layers of security at the events centre !
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:10am
    - igm
      
      Which mosque is he attending, or have they installed one at the primate enclosure in Auckland Zoo?
      
      [DPF: Totally unacceptable racism and that is Strike 6 for two months off]
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:11am
      - srylands
        
        That’s not OK.
        
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        March 21, 2018 8:46am
      - Wayne Mapp
        
        11 upticks indicates 10 hardcore racists. Pity they can’t be identified. Similarly igm, who is he/she?
        
        While I appreciate that DPF believes in absolute free speech and does not delete offensive posts, igm, (and possibly DPF by not not deleting it) has almost certainly breached the Human Rights Act 1993. Section 61 deals with insulting language about the colour or race of a person. The upticks shows that the statement has “excited hostility… and contempt”.
        
        The legislation would clearly cover this blog.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:16am
      - KiWombat
        
        Somebody was watching Wayne !
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:32am
      - Scott
        
        What igm said was rude and racist. However I must say that I dislike more the officious,prim, PC police who take offence at everything. Right now you cannot say anything about race without getting into trouble.
        You cannot say anything bad about homosexuality. Presumably you can’t say anything bad about so-called transgender.
        
        Political correctness means that over in Britain they have literally let rapists get away with rape and murder because they are worried about appearing racist!?
        
        So I would rather have good honest debate and people being able to say what they think. Even if it is a bit ugly at times.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:47am
      - Wayne Mapp
        
        Good outcome by DPF,
        
        And Scott I am normally tolerant of a lot of what people say, but the igm post went way beyond the pale. Not just a case of “political correctness”. It is actually good that DPF left the post out there along with the consequences.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:47am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        It’s kind of out of order, but I would point out that this isn’t the first time that a President has been referred to as an ape!
        
        And I don’t seem to recall any strikes being applied when Trump is referred to as a primate.
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:08am
      - 3-coil
        
        DifferentPerspective (10:08am) – was it not George W Bush who was continually parodied in the MSM as “Bush Chimp”?
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:20am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        Yes. Only those of us over 30 will remember the time when a Republican president was not regularly referred to as an ape.
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:23am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Scott
        
        What igm said was rude and racist. However I must say that I dislike more the officious,prim, PC police who take offence at everything…
        
        So I would rather have good honest debate and people being able to say what they think. Even if it is a bit ugly at times.
        
        Of course you do Scott – unless it is someone calling you out for telling lies. Then you stamp your feet, insist repeatedly “I am not!”without rebutting the details, and you get all sooky and offended.
        
        But of course, it’s different when it’s Scott’s reputation at stake. 😉
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/finally_govt_backs_down_on_russia.html
        
        As before, Scott, my offer to withdraw and apologise if you rebut the details I outlined, still stands. Whatsamatta? Afraid of a bit of “good honest debate” about your honesty and integrity? 😉
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:01am
      - Longknives
        
        It has to be said that jokes about President Trump, his skin colour, his personal appearance and even his family are commonplace. (Even our own Prime Minister mocks him)
        Are they okay?
        I mean- ‘Old White Men’ are the butt of all sorts of snide, racist and ageist attacks these days from the MSM and nobody even raises an eyebrow.
        So I’m not going to get offended by the comment about Obama…
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:16am
      - lifesgood
        
        Wayne Mapp, I would have upticked this for DPF’s comment, not for igm’s. I wonder how many others upticked for DPF?
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:46am
    - waikatogirl
      
      $550,000 for his speaking fee. Raising funds for his foundation. Guess the taxpayer is picking up that wee fee, or are all the invited guests stumping up? Doubt that very much.
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:14am
      - Flash
        
        I’d like to know too –
        
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        March 21, 2018 1:48pm
      - Honeybadger
        
        I doubt very much Shane Jones would be coughing up….
        
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        March 21, 2018 5:11pm
    - flipper
      
      52 % of Air NZ’s costs, plus NZ security costs.
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:23am
      - backster
        
        They could have kept Kapiti Air flights open for less.
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:23am
    - stephieboy
      
      dave c . war criminal ???
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:18am
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy is so stupid he doesnt know about the obama drone and cruise missisle murders in the yemen ,libya, afganistan ,pakistan ,iraq,etc,etc.
        the worst president for the USA and the rest of the planet in history but stupid fricking NZrs are clambering to kiss his expensive arse, fucking sickening actually.
        i would never go as far as igm did but i hold more respect for a dogshit on the pavement than that useless prick obama.
        and as far as im concerned key wasnt much better and im a nat voter .
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:32am
      - stephieboy
        
        softtial 1450 , which the current President is continuing dropping the biggest ever non nuclear bomb in Afghanistan last year .
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:27am
- Inandout
  
  Key said Obama’s Iran Deal was good for America, despite what Trump says. How many billions were thrown at that regime, and then the US gets vilely abused in return?
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:11am
- Paulus
  
  Can it be confirmed that it is costing New Zealand for the visit of Obama of US$485,000 ?
  Why should “we” pay to hear the excuses he gives for the formation (along with W Clinton) of the worse Global Financial Crises primarily caused by Sub Prime Mortgages ?
  Of course only the elite will have a conversation with him, particularly the Top young Maori women leaders.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:13am
  - peterwn
    
    It is a private visit. The NZ sponsors who wanted the visit have found the money AFAIK. Oops, there is a bit of State expenditure – see Flipper’s comment.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:23am
  - stephieboy
    
    Paulus , the former President has touched down about now with the rest of the NZ public totally ignoring you’re bleating rants.
    
    Whats the point ?
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:20am
    - Manolo
      
      Is Marie Antoinette with him? Or did he bring a male friend?
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:10am
      - stephieboy
        
        Manolo , 28,625 pointless posts ..
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:25am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/102421495/former-us-president-barack-obama-visits-new-zealand
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12016656
      
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/watch-first-video-barack-obama-and-john-key-strolling-side-while-golfing-northlands-kauri-cliffs-course
      
      http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/03/barack-obama-touches-down-in-new-zealand.html
      
      http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/352998/obama-watch-former-us-president-s-convoy-moves-out
      
      Quite right SB, all of NZ is ignoring Obama’s visit.
      
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      March 21, 2018 2:08pm
- Chris R
  
  Taxinda recently observed that President Trump is “yellow.” When she meets the ex-president Obama will she say:” You’re black!”
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:15am
  - niggly
    
    Oh gawd I can picture it now …. Jacinda’s next Women’s Day interview – take your pick:
    
    “He’s not as dark as he looks like on TV / He’s a lot darker than he looks like on TV”!
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:49am
  - howitis
    
    The popular thing among the small minded lefties who hate democracy -only when it does not go their way – is to call President D. J. Trump ‘orange’.
    It is the kind of thing eight year olds to do to ‘be mean’.
    
    To be fair it is entirely possible that President D. J. Trump was a bit yellow around ‘DJ’ Ardern.
    She tends to leave people rather jaundiced with her flippant school-girl view of the world and complete lack of ability to stand by anything she has said in her many conversations (let me be clear i.e. vacuous ramblings)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGhYJssCZQM
    THE SEX PISTOLS-PRETTY VACANT
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:00am
    - Longknives
      
      Nice howitis! (I’d give that two ticks if I could)
      I have Never Mind The Bollocks on vinyl- It is simply one of the best rock albums in History.
      I never bought all that crap McLaren used to spout about how they ‘couldn’t play their instruments’ etc
      For a group of lads who supposedly couldn’t play that album is absolute dynamite..
      
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      March 21, 2018 11:03am
      - Kimbo
        
        Sid Vicious couldn’t. They unplugged him at times and let him stand there and grimace. Sad day when Glen Matlock left/was thrown out, but by then they had recorded Never Mind the Bollocks.
        
        Edit. Sorry, I stand corrected:
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Mind_the_Bollocks,_Here%27s_the_Sex_Pistols
        
        Because Vicious couldn’t play (other than on Bodies), and Matlock wouldn’t without payment up front (no surprise NcLaren didn’t front with the money!), Steve Jones played the bass on the album.
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:16am
      - Kimbo
        
        But, yes, agree on Never Mind the Bollocks. Is on my Spotify selections for gym. My best mate who was a punk had it right. It has power, energy, and…it’s fun! Given the bat shit boring over-produced prog rock of the likes of Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Rick Wakeman, punk and the Pistols needed to happen.
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:25am
      - Kimbo
        
        A downtick…for criticising Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Rick Wakeman??!
        
        OK, who’s the sad, lacking in taste anorak-wearer? I seen to remember noskire likes pre-Phil Collins Genesis, so maybe he is the offended prog rock devotee. 😉
        
        Show yourself, whomever you are so we can have some fun mocking you! 😉
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:38am
      - Kimbo
        
        Another downtick??! OK, this is intriguing. Hard as it may be for others around here to believe given the consistently constructive nature of my…ahem, contributions on Kiwiblog, I realise it may be someone who has snitcher on me regardless of the topic (‘Morning Scott, ‘Morning Chuck Bird)
        
        …but please, come out from behind the cloak of downticking anonymity and answer for us all the burning question:
        
        You really think Rick Wakeman, including King Arthur…one ice…was good?! 😉
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_hM1dtRolY
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:47am
      - Longknives
        
        I wasn’t counting ‘Poor old Sidney’ Kimbo!
        He didn’t contribute anything to the album other than allegedly playing Bass on one track (though there are rumours Jonesy stepped in there as well and that they just wanted to give Sid a credit)
        
        Sid Vicious was simply a publicity stunt brought in by Malcolm McLaren- I’ll give him credit it certainly worked!
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:55am
  - stephieboy
    
    Chris R , the President “yellow” ?
    
    There is some justice to that comment as you must beware ,
    
    http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1340482-donald-trumps-hair
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:22am
  - KKKKatee
    
    It will be interesting to see if the PM has made improvements regarding her diplomacy skills.
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:39am
    - thedavincimode
      
      No skills required there. She’ll be all over him like a rash.
      The real question is the couture department and whether she will roll out the house dress she wore at yesterday’s press conference – the hand me down from dyson made from the old curtains in dyson’s rumpus room.
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:15am
    - RF
      
      I know I have previously mentioned this but I received a lesson in pure hypocrisy.
      
      This was during the Lord of The Rings premiere in Wellington.
      
      Crowds were lined up and I witnessed Ardern & sweet cheeks pushing their way to the front to meet the actors.
      
      She was so excited and squealing like a piglet.
      
      People around me were disgusted at this blaintant hypocrisy as the previous week she was a Hobbit hater and rubbishing Peter Jacksons films.
      
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      March 21, 2018 1:52pm
    - dave_c_
      
      Real diplomacy escapes these elites. Neither on both sides would know how to spell it, let alone express it.
      The reality is that they generally hate each other and diplomacy doesnt enter into the matter
      
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      March 21, 2018 2:05pm
  - kowtow
    
    Funny how it’s ok to mock every feature of the Evil Vile Don , including and especially hair colour .
    
    But anything remotely approaching the same thing with Obummer becomes racist.
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:59am
    - stephieboy
      
      kowtow , he is not the Evil Vile Don. A clown is more accurate .
      
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      March 21, 2018 11:24am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I’d rather wait until that happens.
  What a Wishlist: BO, HRC, and KDC in matching orange onesies and jewellery.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:18am
Maxx

Peters “will not compromise on its agreed position around oil and gas exploration”.

What agreed position is this as it doesn’t appear in the coalition agreement? Is it in the other agreement? Does this mean it is now something that we can see? I would like to know more!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12016667
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March 21, 2018 8:03am
- kowtow
  
  The fact that Jax said what she did over oil and gas exploration should scare the living shit out of 95 % of the electorate ( Greens excluded of course) .
  
  And the NZ media reaction to it should be at least as big and hysterical as their reaction to an American school shooting , a BLM death or a foreign celebrity sexual harassment incident , but it hasn’t and won’t be.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:08am
  - Simon
    
    Its all bullshit. Kiwibuild is a measurable failure where Labo can be held account. Time for Labo to move onto fluff like their war against fossil fuels.
    
    The war against fossil fuels cant be measured and is virtue signaling to other wankers. Its prefect for them.
    
    Princess goes on about international signals. What international signal?. Trump is opening up US energy, India & Chinese growing middle class need the energy that fossil fuels provides.
    
    What is left? The policital class from the EU? She must mean other wankers like herself.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:33am
    - KiWombat
      
      Simon – KiwiBuild is not yet a failure.
      
      In case you hadn’t heard, the government has reset the clock on this one. Their promise to have KiwiBuild up and running within their first 100 days has now been re-positioned on their calendar. The 100 days now begins on July 1st.
      
      But I suppose – in much the same manner as the trees haven’t been planted because its too hot – by July it will be too cold or too wet, so wait for that starting date to be re-positioned yet again.
      
      At least “a year” is still “a year” so we will be able to count the houses after a year – won’t we ?
      
      At this time they have over 4,000 houses just to catch up on their annual deficit, so I’m sure we will see a couple of thousand by then – yeah right !
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:58am
      - MrLovebucket
        
        Did you hear the excuse in Q1 from question time yesterday? The problem now is because we are getting close to winter.
        
        Apparently this is an issue for planting trees and building houses. Clearly the fact that there is a season called “winter” is unexpected and has blindsided their plans. They made their promises based on the fact that there would be no Summer or Winter in the next three years.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:53am
      - KiWombat
        
        But Autumn doesn’t seem to be suiting their agenda either !
        
        Perhaps we should ask them to tell us what months WILL suit them as they appear to have ruled out the Summer and Winter months, and now that it’s Autumn they just seem to be sitting waiting for winter to arrive !
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:20am
      - Ross12
        
        I thought autumn is time you plant trees.
        
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        March 21, 2018 1:19pm
      - BananaLlama
        
        You are correct Ross. It is also the best time to get stuck in and do heavy laboring imo because the temperature and humidity are just right.
        If trees aren’t being planted in serious numbers now then they will never be.
        
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        March 21, 2018 1:39pm
  - Brian Marshall
    
    Joyce ripped her a new one ahout this, this morning on ZB with Mike Hosking. She didn’t have any answers that made sense. Love him or loath him, Steve Joyce knows what he’s talking about.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:52am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Genter was woeful on Hosking this morning. She constantly tried to talk over Joyce, then played the “you’re talking over me Steven” when he finally got a word in.
      
      In the meantime, she is so fixated on getting cars off the road to rid us of fossil fuels, she doesn’t seem to realise that planes need fuel too. If she wanted to really do New Zealand a fossil favour, she could help get rid of Winston Peters, the original fossil!
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:20am
      - BananaLlama
        
        I hate these idiots that want to ban cars they are all metropolitan boof heads.
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:00am
      - ex-golfer
        
        I am disappointed that Mike did not question JAG on the contradictory Government position of Air NZ needing to be flying to all and sundry remote places (just because) and a desire to mine less fossil fuels.
        
        Under current settings and technology one cannot be done without the other!
        
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        March 21, 2018 2:01pm
  - howitis
    
    The drive against the pig industry from about 10 years ago shows what happens when you get silly on local producers.
    Ban it or make it difficult and quietly the local production dies off while imports increase.
    
    It seems that the rabble have been successful and the ‘noise’ dies away.
    What really happens is the local industry suffers and there is capital and income stream loss as well as jobs and rates to local councils etc etc. Government misses out on royalties and other tax take.
    You have to wonder who was really behind such a move!
    It is economic vandalism.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/67829069/new-zealand-farmed-pork-loses-ground-to-imports
    Apr 2015
    …Pork lovers take note – the chances of being able to eat New Zealand-farmed pork are diminishing by the year as foreign imports take its place.
    In January this year the percentage of imported pork hit the 52 per cent mark, or 50,000 tonnes. As recently as 2008, imports accounted for just 41 per cent but the figure has climbed as kiwi farmers have withdrawn from the industry…..
    
    This runs a parallel to the anti-apartheid movement where a bunch of fools got wound up with half and quarter truths but got their result. That result today in South Africa should bring shame to the people who pushed for it (eg Phil Goff). Perhaps they might want to send some bottled water to Capetown or run a live aid concert for the white farmers!
    Ok, no chance.
    
    It is extremely disingenuous of the Government to yield to tax-dodging Greenwar and make such statements until they give up oil based products themselves – motor vehicles; aeroplanes; cleaning fluids (OK for Greens, no change here) ; tar seal; computer casing; petroleum jelly and lipstick (whether on a pig or not) BBQ gas; sewer pipes; medicines; fertiliser to grow food; your nylon raincoat; your polyprop jacket and lots more. Basically, 21st century living.
    
    Do without these things then start babbling!
    
    No oil> Clarke Gaylord would have to give up : Neoprene wetsuit; swim togs; silicone fins, mask and snorkel; fishing line; fishing net; knife handle. Pretty much everything he uses is petroleum-based including boat manufacture; fuel; camera casing; memory card or magnetic tape; flying to islands, driving to coast; cooking the fish.
    Take away oil based items and his life as he knows it is over.
    There would be no television device; phone, or iPad for people to watch the program anyway.
    Stupid is as stupid does.
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:50am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Pig Farming is definitely something that could be centralised into one under-developed area of NZ – to keep the smell localised, just as is mostly done in other countries. East Cape? Westport?
      
      European pig prices are about half ($2/kg) of what they are in NZ ($4/kg), why is NZ so expensive?
      
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      March 21, 2018 1:48pm
      - dave_c_
        
        Why limit your question to pig meat – almost everything in NZ is over priced.
        Reason – Greed, and because we can.
        
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        March 21, 2018 2:09pm
- flipper
  
  I think most Kiwibloggers would agree with you.
  
  But that arrogant prick Mallard will veto any attempt to secure clarification. His continuance in office simply degrades (further ?) the House of Representatives. After less than six months, to paraphrase Cromwell/Avery, “….. he (Mallard) has sat there too long for any good that he is doing [for New Zealand]. Depart, I say and let’s have done with him. In the name of God, go “
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:21am
- G152
  
  That ‘agreement’ is being written as time goes by. If they don’t print it they can say it encompasses items unthought of at its supposed inception
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:36am
- peterwn
  
  Winston is between a rock and a hard place on this. He knows that marine exploration is needed to keep the economy in good shape, but is dependent on Big Fish to fund his campaigns.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:44am
- redeye
  
  They have been completely clear and transparent about hiding the full agreement.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:47am
Monique Watson

Shooter in Maryland got taken down by an armed school officer.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/20/us/great-mills-high-school-shooting/index.html
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March 21, 2018 8:04am
- Maxx
  
  It’s not the guns that are killing people, its the culture around guns in that they can be used to solve your personal problems.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:13am
  - waikatogirl
    
    5 bombs have gone off in Austin Texas and one has suspicious parcel is being investigated in Antonio. Yesterday one bomb was triggered by a trip wire injuring 2 men, and the latest bomb exploded while on the FedEx mail conveyor belt.
    
    Another angry individual striking out against the world.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:20am
    - backster
      
      A Lone Wolf
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:33am
    - Fletch
      
      Ban the bomb!
      
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      March 21, 2018 11:54am
  - stephieboy
    
    Maxx , so Liberal and lax gun control policies and culture should be pursued in NZ ?
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:30am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      No one said that.
      You’re making stuff up again.
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:21am
      - stephieboy
        
        I’m not . You appear to be trying to find rationale for US gun control laws which are liberal by our standards !
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:22am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        SB
        I did not say that.
        You’re making stuff up again.
        Again.
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:37am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      Semi-automatic rifles are legal in NZ. You just have to pass a simple multi-choice test and you can get a weapon with the same killing power as the ones used in most US mass shootings.
      
      Differences in legislation are not the reason those shootings happen there and not here.
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:31am
      - stephieboy
        
        Nigel Kearney, we have Arms and Police based legalisation that determines who and whom can own a semi automatic and I’m sure that does not include the mentally ill or unstable or violent offenders ,
        
        Arms Act Regulations .
        
        http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/1992/0346/19.0/DLM168889.html
        
        Police standard Arms licence ,
        
        http://www.police.govt.nz/advice/firearms-and-safety/standard-new-zealand-firearms-licence
        
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        March 21, 2018 12:04pm
    - Maxx
      
      I’m just saying taking all of the guns out of peoples hands would not fix the issue. But whilst the culture exists that they have around guns, you will have these types of issues.
      
      What are the cultural issues? I don’t know. I would hazard a guess that owning a firearm is the best method of personal protection, that pointing a firearm at someone will get them to immediately bend to your will, and lack of PROPER training for probably some/most owners.
      
      Personally, I think they have far more guns that anyone has a need for.
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:54am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      so what you are saying is….
      
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      March 21, 2018 3:41pm
holysheet

A middle aged woman was teeing off for a round of golf in Hawaii when she toppled over after swinging too hard.
The foursome waiting on the tee happened to include President Obama and Sir John Key
Reacting quickly, Obama adroitly ran to the woman and helped her up.
She thanked him and began to re-tee her ball, when Obama said, “By the way, I’m Barack Obama and I sure hope you voted for me.”
She smiled and replied, “I fell on my butt, not on my head.”
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March 21, 2018 8:06am
- VicParking
  
  What is the point of this tasteless joke got to do with John Key other than to display your spots Holy.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:23am
  - Lance
    
    Get with the program… Obama is the devil.. so is Hilary (two devils?), they bite the heads off kittens and shoot down aircraft while assassinating their opposition whereas Trump is God, perfect in all thoughts and deeds.
    Thou shalt not fail to worship Trump, lest thou be cast as a filthy pinko scumbag arse-bandit homo commie shithead.
    Here endith the lesson
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:03am
  - stephieboy
    
    VicParking , thats the nature of the deluded beast
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:31am
  - VicParking
    
    The Joke does not even make sense. She fell on her “butt” in the present but did not vote for “Obama” in the past. This Joke does not contain any element of good Humor. It’s sole purpose is to ridicule Obama and associate this with John Key. Even the English structure is poor. “Obama skilfully ran to the women”? I’m certainly not a fan of Obama but I am of witty well structured humor.
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:02am
    - holysheet
      
      You really are thick. The game of golf was in Hawaii, (in the past) therefore it was when Obama was president.
      John key has himself said he likes playing golf with Obama. You are reading to much into it. Did you have a bad night?
      
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      March 21, 2018 12:40pm
      - VicParking
        
        Typical, First a personal insult then a nonsense of a reply. If you read your own, I wont call it a joke because its not funny, ramble you will see for it to make sense the “middle aged women”? Would have needed to have voted for Obama after she fell over and before he picked her up. I did not now there were polling booths on American golf tees.
        
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        March 21, 2018 3:10pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Seriously VP you are having a major sense of humour failure.
      
      When you find yourself in a hole, it really is best to stop digging.
      
      Or, as the saying goes.. sometimes it’s better to say nothing and be thought a fool, rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
      
      In the meantime, here is another weak joke…..
      
      My rubber band pistol was confiscated from algebra class..
      
      Because it was a weapon of math disruption.
      
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      March 21, 2018 3:47pm
  - JibberJabber
    
    I guess it`s all in the way ya tell `em.
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:16am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    What’s the point of your outraged comment VicParking other than to display your spots?
    
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    March 21, 2018 3:42pm
Poppa

Dear Shane Jones

I heard your interview with Larry Williams last night & may I say I have never heard such an arrogant ill informed rant in my life on the radio.

You need to take a look at yourself Shane, you are an idiot!
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March 21, 2018 8:07am
- oldgolfer
  
  Much too fond of the sound of his own voice.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:26am
- VicParking
  
  Poppa, I hope you listened to his rant on Red Radio this morning as it topped last nights.
  In his view the Board of Air NZ should be sent to a Gulag and Air NZ run as a adjunct to WINZ.
  To call this man ignorant is to praise him.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:27am
  - Poppa
    
    No I didn’t hear this morning’s effort Vic but if it topped last night it sure must have been appalling
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:33am
    - smttc
      
      If you thought last night’s effort was arrogant, wait until you hear this morning’s effort on Red Radio. Arrogant and pompous.
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:53am
  - G152
    
    And maligning the ignorant
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:38am
  - Swifty
    
    Just listened to that.
    
    What an arsehole.
    
    Do what helps me politically or I’ll have you sacked.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:42am
  - niggly
    
    Plus he threatened the Air NZ execs not to get “into the political boxing ring” eg shut up and don’t speak publicly when being criticised.
    
    Really scary stuff – it was like being transported back in time to the 2000’s when Helen used to rule in the same manner. Although she also perfected the death stare look to reinforce what she meant without having to say it – Jones still has to do some catching up (perhaps he can borrow Winnie’s full-length mirror to practice with? Surely Winnie won’t miss one of his no doubt many)?!!
    
    Who would have thought NZF and Shane Jones would be trying to take NZ back to those dark and sinister controlling times?
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:58am
  - Maxx
    
    I heard a rumour that AirNZ is having trouble recruiting pilots for their regional routes. Not sure of the reason but I don’t believe it’s because of money. And because of that, they’re stopping marginal routes rather than having to cancel flights, to ensure that they have sufficient reserve.
    I don’t know why they don’t just come out and say it though.
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:21am
    - lifesgood
      
      I know an Air NZ pilot. Since the day he joined he has moaned, hated every CEO, thought he wasn’t valued…blah, blah, blah. Air NZ pilots believe they are worth more than they are. There is a strong culture of moaning and complaining amongst them. They are glorified bus drivers, earning way too much and thinking they deserve more.
      
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      March 21, 2018 11:54am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        It is highly skilled, the pilots are all very capable people and they are all doing an incredibly boring job. So a lot like dentists, though dentists maintain a closed shop to keep their prices sky high.
        
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        March 21, 2018 1:51pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Urban
        I’ll never complain about the price of visiting the dentist again – someone I know had to pay a vet $130 to euthanise a cat.
        
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        March 21, 2018 2:14pm
      - VicParking
        
        Shaun rather than going to the dentist maybe you should have gone to the vet. LOL
        
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        March 21, 2018 3:13pm
  - Piniwi
    
    But VP judging by some cabin crew they are already getting subsidised WINZ whoppers. Last one seen had to move along the aisle side ways as the pilot re-trimmed the aircraft with each passing.
    
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    March 21, 2018 4:00pm
- alloytoo
  
  I agree,
  
  This is the same man who sold out to National after his failed Labour leadership bid, and subsequently resold to Winston.
  
  Couldn’t answer the questions, so just accused Larry of being a corporate stooge.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:27am
- softail 1450
  
  poppa, that POS jones thinks hes a world renowned comedian,the fucking idiot cant make any statement without inflicting us with his “wanking person”humour .
  that guy honestly thinks hes the fucking king of NZ and that hes universally loved.
  thats what happens when your only audience have been hui at sychophantic marae around the country.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:29am
  - kevn
    
    @softail… Wandering around NZ with an open cheque book will certainly get him some ‘mates’…
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:34am
  - Prince
    
    It’s ghe laziness that is so offensive, as with all NZF MP’s.
    Jones seemed so upset that Larry Williams had done some research and had figures available.
    He prefers to hide behind some long words and silly comparisons. Reminds me of a Dickens caricature.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:44am
- Lance
  
  Garner on AM suggested Shane should cancel his Koru Club membership….. oh the horror.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:35am
- Paulus
  
  But it is a good way to deflect the Princesses lack of headlines until she meets Obummer.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:29am
- backster
  
  Or is he preparing the way to restore State Control of Air NZ and eventually the Power Companies inwhich the State has 51% shareholdings.
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:36am
- rangitoto
  
  A wanna be tyrant.
  
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  March 21, 2018 11:21am
- ex-golfer
  
  Jacinda struggled to reconcile his comments yesterday – but did her best through the “a Minister is entitled to voice his opinions but we recognise the independence of Air NZ to make commercial decisions” approach.
  
  Shane has doubled down today – I wonder how she will handle it?
  
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  March 21, 2018 2:04pm
cmm

The media seem to be bending over backwards to show that Jacinda is still in the game.

They offer up a false dichotomy: Is Jacinda more like Helen or John?

No sweeties, like them or not but both Helen and John were competent operators.

Jacinda, well, let’s just say there’s a word in the dictionary that’s been waiting centuries for its archetype and has now found it. That word is vacuous.
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March 21, 2018 8:08am
- holysheet
  
  Yes, but she is so absoludly posadiff that she is the popular mother to be, of the baby of the nation.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:13am
- oldpark
  
  Thought you were going to say “Vacuum?” Go figure.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:16am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Is that why she supposedly got the name “Hoover”? Or am I missing something?
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:22pm
- igm
  
  When are media going to realise they are promoting immorality, illegitimacy, and lies, when they keep pushing this disgrace in their columns. She is an insult to the office of PM, and Peters should be hung, drawn, and quartered for putting this apparition in its current position.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:16am
  - Lance
    
    Or worse, take his booze away
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:42am
- KevOB
  
  Another word is Bright.
  I sure hope the pregnancy and the newborn are easy care as she will it. The next six months are full of unknowns.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:26am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I also wish her (and anyone) well for the birth of her child, but “bright” ?
    Haggard, stressed, incompetent, devious, dishonest, dull, dangerous, disrespectful, floundering, ….
    Bright? Nup, don’t see it.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:39am
    - RF
      
      Watching Ardern on the Parliament Chanel last night.
      
      What a scruffy frump. Looked like she had been dragged through a gorse bush backwards.
      
      She is supposed to be off to visit the queen soon.
      
      By this time she will be looking like Worzel Gummidge.
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:22am
    - KevOB
      
      Watch out for Penny.
      
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      March 21, 2018 1:08pm
- john1234
  
  I saw that Tim Murphy drivel and nearly gagged. Clark and Key ran 3 term governments with considerable success. Both had a ton of experience either in politics and either government or finance. Both had a complete grasp of their organisation and complete control over their people.
  Cindy has *none* of that. She’s shown nothing so far to earn any kind of comparison with Clarke and Key.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:05am
  - Harkman
    
    The female of the residence said to me yesterday, “That Jacinda, she really is an airhead. She wouldn’t have a clue what is going on.” I replied, “Yep.”
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:13am
  - Longknives
    
    As much as I loathed Helen Clark I have to say-
    Little Miss ‘Capitalism has Failed but I’m just loving this $500k salary’ Ardern is not in the same freaking League as Helen Clark politically…
    
    As awful a human being as she is- Helen was a very, very good operator.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:13am
  - Lance
    
    Jacinda has not made the journey to the dark side yet. The force is not strong with her, she has insufficient hate to make her strong. Darth Klark has a work in progress and the emperor will be displeased should she fail
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:47am
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      Maybe Emperor Barry can give her a few tips. “Let the hate flow through you”.
      
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      March 21, 2018 11:57am
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… AUSTRALIA … PLUS … AUCKLAND AUCTIONS COLLAPSE …

‘Long and painful’: Peter Costello’s rate warning for households … Sydney Morning Herald l

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/long-and-painful-peter-costello-s-rate-warning-for-households-20180320-p4z5bj.html

The inevitable return to higher interest rates is necessary, warns Future Fund chairman Peter Costello but it will be more painful for the nation’s deeply indebted households the longer it was held off.

Mr Costello, who served as federal treasurer for 10 years, said how to unwind low interest rates was an issue challenging a world that was “awash with money”.

“The big global issue now is how do we get back to more normal conditions,” he said. … read more via hyperlink above …
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https://www.google.co.nz/search?source=hp&ei=jFqxWpafBorz8QXm7quQDw&q=peter+costello&oq=peter+costello&gs_l=psy-ab.13..0l10.3731.7870.0.12641.16.15.0.0.0.0.303.2620.2-10j1.12.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..4.11.2605.0..46j0i131k1j0i46k1.193.tY8LlyMXbEc
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AUCKLAND: Sales rates ranged from 19% to 40% at Barfoot & Thompson’s latest auctions | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/92708/sales-rates-ranged-19-40-barfoot-thompsons-latest-auctions

Barfoot & Thompson had an overall sales rate of just under a third at the agency’s auctions last week.

Barfoot marketed 187 residential properties for sale by auction and achieved sales on 56 of them, giving an overall clearance rate of 30%. … read more via hyperlink above …
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  AUCKLAND … DAISY (NO PARKS) DENSE DEVELOPMENT: AN INSULT TO HOUSING AFFORDABILITY & POVERTY ALLEVIATION
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  … BROADCASTER MIKE HOSKING THRASHES ‘ANTI CAR’ PLANNERS IDIOTS IN THE NEW ZEALAND HERALD (WHO IS REPORTING ON THE CENTRAL CHRISTCHURCH ‘ANTI – CAR’ FIASCO TOO ?) …
  
  Mike Hosking: Memo, council planners – get your hands off my car – NZ Herald
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12012602
  
  … ARE NEW ZEALAND URBAN PLANNERS JUST REPEATING THE MISTAKES OF THE BRITISH DECADES AGO ? …
  
  Inquiry. The Great British Housing Disaster (Adam Curtis, 1984) – YouTube
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5VorymiL4
  
  NOT SURPRISINGLY … NOW THIS … $NZ 530,000 FOR THIS IN 8.8 MEDIAN MULTIPLE AUCKLAND …
  
  The Daisy apartments: why did we do it? … Mark Todd … The Spinoff
  
  https://thespinoff.co.nz/auckland/18-03-2018/the-daisy-apartments-why-did-we-do-it/
  
  The team behind the Daisy apartment building respond to the fury it unleashed from Mike Hosking. …
  
  … Price points for apartments in Daisy averaged $530K, just 60% of the current REINZ median house price in Auckland. Why? In large part, because each apartment did not come with a $100k private underground carpark hewn from volcanic basalt, unleashing another vehicle per apartment onto Auckland’s already crowded streets. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  … WHILE THE CURRENT MEDIAN PRICE IS $US 170,000 FOR TOWNHOUSE / CONDOMINIUMS IN 3.7 MEDIAN MULTIPLE HOUSTON …
  
  HOUSTON ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS – LATEST MONTHLY REPORT
  
  https://www.har.com/content/mls
  
  … extract …
  
  Townhouse/Condominium Update
  
  Sales of townhomes and condominiums tumbled 5.1 percent in February, with a total of 466 units sold. The average price rose 2.0 percent to $210,887 while the median price increased 4.6 percent to $170,000. Inventory declined slightly year-over-year from a 3.7-months supply to 3.6 months.
  
  … ECONOMIST RODNEY DICKENS EXPLAINS WHY AFFORDABLE DENSE DEVELOPMENT IS HOPELESS WHILE AUCKLAND FRINGES REMAIN STRANGLED …
  
  Rodney Dickens says section prices are the key to solving the housing affordability problem, not higher density around transport hubs. He warns against force-feeding in areas that won’t deliver the intended outcome
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/92556/rodney-dickens-says-section-prices-are-key-solving-housing-affordability-problem-not
  
  … WHICH IS WHY NEW ZEALANDS NEW LABOUR GOVERNMENT IS ABOLISHING URBAN LIMITS AND INTRODUCING BOND FINANCING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE …
  
  Housing – New Zealand Labour Party
  
  http://www.labour.org.nz/housing
  
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  Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out
  
  Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:17am
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    This mornings postings …
    
    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/peter-costello-declares-housing-bust-imminent/#comment-3072646 … and … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/general_debate_21_march_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2167240 … and … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/general_debate_21_march_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2167251 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/peter-costello-declares-housing-bust-imminent/#comment-3072655
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:59am
    - KevOB
      
      Hugh, why don’t you give a considered opinion on some of the items referred. Some of the material is significant but fails in presentation.
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:13am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Who gives a flying fuck?
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:30am
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        CM,
        A perfect example of a severely impaired capacity to think !
        
        DUH !
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:39am
- hullkiwi
  
  Sh*t auctions collapse in Auckland. Has someone told Auckland Council & the High Court that the auction of Penny’s home may not realise the $1mill price tag?
  
  Oh dear never mind, couldn’t be be happening to a pair who deserve each other more. Penny Bright & Auckland Council.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:54am
DigNap15

Clarke Gayford or some fashion designers really need to advise Jacinda that she needs to up her game and dress more professionally.
There is good business fashion for pregnant women available.

She really looks like a frumpy school girl in every picture we see her in.
Please Jacinda stop embarrasing us all.

Why Vogue ever chose her as a cover girl I have no idea.
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March 21, 2018 8:16am
- Longknives
  
  Strange because whenever I’ve seen Clarke out and about in Auckland he is always surrounded by pretty young Girls who are exceptionally well-dressed!
  Perhaps they could offer The People’s Princess some tips?
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:20am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Stewardesses do have a certain stylishness about them don’t they?
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:25am
    - Chris R
      
      Generally. Sometimes they’re a bit too made-up, and when they raise a sweat the make-up runs…ask Mr Gayford.
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:41am
      - KKKKatee
        
        “Whose lipstick is that on your collar?” might well be the question in that household. Unless, of course, he is the dedicated laundry man…..
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:51am
    - igm
      
      If these rumours are true he has gone up many points in most people’s estimations.
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:44am
    - dave_c_
      
      Not in some of the US airlines !
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:11am
- waikatogirl
  
  If Cindy was competent as PM Select I would forgive her odd clothing choices.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:26am
- Simon
  
  Children under Labo’s care were given alcohol and sexually assulted. She should have other more pressing issues
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:37am
- Paulus
  
  Expect that the Labour Party via the Unions sponsored her in Vague Magazine.
  They might be regretting that now.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:32am
- stephieboy
  
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  DiNap15 , who outside the KB alt right Bubble chamber actually cares ?
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:40am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Geez Stephanie, you can be tedious. You go on about this blog being an alt right bubble chamber. We suggest you go somewhere else to play with yourself, but here you are yet again repeating the same line. You are a stuck record, in this bubble chamber shouting into the wind.
    
    For those of us who comment in this bubble chamber, do us a favour go & be an annoyance somewhere else or better still find a possidiv purpose to your life.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:03am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Sqwark – alt right, Sqwark – alt right.
    There’s that galah again.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:27am
  - sooty
    
    You do or you would not be here.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:45am
- alex Masterley
  
  Rather than a frumpy school girl Jacinda looks like a bag lady.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:49am
  - sooty
    
    Been taking dress lessons from Penny Bright. Wont be long and Penny will be looking for somewhere to park the van.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:48am
    - hullkiwi
      
      She’ll find another cause to protest, set up a camp, park her van & there you go. An instant home once Eden Tce is sold.
      
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      March 21, 2018 12:47pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I think I would be an expert when it comes to frumpy dressing and I’m fast acquiring the necessities for my Winter bag-lady wardrobe.
    
    I don’t think our PM’s style is either frump or bag-lady… I can’t quite delimit it, but it seems to be a blend of Boho and Bogan.
    
    I’d say she’s the trend-setter in Bogo style.
    
    (p.s…. a tutorial for your bogan makeup)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaAX7hku_CM
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:55am
- KKKKatee
  
  She appeared on the front page of the herald yesterday wearing those dreadful boots AGAIN! There’s no doubt about it – the National lady MP’s. show just how much more classy and elegant they are in every way compared to this lacking in elegance excuse of a PM. As the saying goes – ‘clothes maketh the man’ or woman in this case.
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:11am
  - lifesgood
    
    She can’t get out and shop, that’s the trouble. She is on guard dog duties when she’s at home.
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:59am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Busy people on $500k pa often engage a personal shopper.
      
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      March 21, 2018 5:57pm
  - artemisia
    
    Paula Bennett looking well presented in the House today. The Prime Minister not so much.
    
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    March 21, 2018 3:23pm
- thedavincimode
  
  I don’t think anybody expects her to blitz the stage after a shopping spree on Avenue Montaigne, but there is an element of decorum to be expected in light of her position. If a male politician turned up in footy shorts and jandals it would be out of order. Dressing as if she’s just crawled out of the sack really only shows a lack of respect for her audience. She is supposedly representing our country and her diplomacy and dress gaffe’s are simply embarrassing.
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:23am
  - KKKKatee
    
    Some say it looks like she’s crawled out of a dumpster. There is absolutely no need for the PM to look like a bag lady. She either doesn’t know how to dress or doesn’t give a shit about what she wears. Sometimes people have to up their game – being expected to dress in a professional manner in keeping with her role isn’t too much to ask surely?
    I saw a photo of her just the other week wearing those bloody awful ankle boots AND thick black tights on a very warm day. What the hell was that all about? I can’t take people seriously when they haven’t a clue about dress codes, sorry.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:35am
    - thedavincimode
      
      She was wearing those boots at yesterday’s press conference with dyson’s old rumpus room curtains. It would have looked better if she had in fact worn jandals.
      
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      March 21, 2018 11:24am
    - Fletch
      
      She’s probably spending the prime ministerial clothing allowance on doing up the baby’s room.
      
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      March 21, 2018 12:00pm
      - dave_c_
        
        Not to mention the truck loads of make up these twits use. Wouldnt be seen dead on camera without it.
        
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        March 21, 2018 2:15pm
    - KevOB
      
      Clothes go with a cultural class. Jacinda seems to show that she belongs to a particular one which dresses down by comparison with Metira. She looks washed and clean– a bit maidish, out of poverty, just?
      
      I doubt if she can be changed.
      
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      March 21, 2018 1:16pm
- howitis
  
  Most of the Labour Cabinet carry on like they are in their 30th year of ‘Standard 4’ so why shouldn’t they dress like school kids?
  Curran; Woods, Chippy; Robertson et al.
  
  Those disappeared into witless protection we can’t fairly comment on.
  Parker would still look like a sleazy bagman whatever he wore.
  Faafoi is so pleased there are velcro strap shoes now as those laces were such a challenge.
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:23am
Longknives

I enjoyed seeing Max Key heading off for Golf with Obama and his Dad this morning-Just because it will rile all the Lefties to hell!!
Just wait for all the vitriol about it over at The Standard..

*I don’t even particularly like Max Key- But I love that he gets under their skin so much..
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March 21, 2018 8:19am
- holysheet
  
  Golf is such a rich pricks game?
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:24am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Evidently Ardern doesn’t play golf, but will she pop into the 19th in her slippers to say hi?
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:29am
  - VicParking
    
    Jealous, Jealous, Jealous Holy. Do you know with end of a golf club to hold. As a certified Marxist you will never ever get to be a “rick prick”.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:33am
  - kevn
    
    @HS… In our city it is the tradies who are golf (and fishing) enthusiasts.
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:21am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Tradies are the new rich pricks.
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:32am
      - dave_c_
        
        Indeed, I agree, tradies are very expensive these days
        
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        March 21, 2018 2:17pm
- KKKKatee
  
  Me too! Max knows how to stick it up ’em without even trying!
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:28am
Simon

Trump is taking apart Facebook / Zuckerberg and using leftards to do. Masterclass.

Trump just keeps getting better and better.
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March 21, 2018 8:19am
- KevOB
  
  If only America would stop trying to rule the world.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:31am
  - VicParking
    
    Yes they should be like Russia and China who have no expansionistic plans.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:35am
    - Harkman
      
      An Englishman wrote into Bill O’Reilly about two years ago, “There is only one thing worse than America being the world’s policeman. America not being the world’s policeman.”
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:18am
  - flipper
    
    Why stop ?
    
    Look who is “in charge?” here.
    
    And remind us about those growth rates for the past 2 quarters, and those now forecast for NZ.
    
    Remind us about the % of the World economy represented by US.
    
    Time to grow up and face the fact that we and Australia are just pimples on the face of Earth.
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:14am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Trump has shown that he has no intention of ruling the world, but he’s going to make America great again by putting American interests first.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:31am
- Inandout
  
  Bloody FB is a curse and is the playground for benes to display their absolute ignorance. On the plus side, FB is a mine of information for debt collectors.
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:23am
DifferentPerspective

Maryland school shooting

So a good guy with a guy killed the loon who was shooting schoolkids.

Looks like Trump’s common sense approach is proven right

WINNING!
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March 21, 2018 8:28am
- Scott
  
  That does appear to be the case. That someone with a gun stopped an armed shooter in a school.
  Trump’s idea of having some teachers armed to stop school shootings is probably on the right track.
  As potential evil shooters were inspired by Columbine now potential evil shooters will be uninspired by Maryland.
  
  https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/20/us/great-mills-high-school-shooting/index.html
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:41am
- Nermal
  
  School shooters are just extreme bullies, and we know bullies are cowards at heart.
  
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  March 21, 2018 2:18pm
EAD_TWO

After spending hours interrogating Lauren Southern & Britt Pettibone, The British police have now dropped the cases against 20 Telford grooming gang abusers because there “would be too much trouble”.

Why even have a police force at this point if you are not going to go after the bad guys?

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/19/police-dropped-cases-against-20-telford-groomers-too-much-trouble/amp/

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” – John F. Kennedy
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March 21, 2018 8:30am
- cmm
  
  To think they could once run an Empire….
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:34am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    To think they could once run an Empire….
    
    The meme that all our Governments are “incompetent” has always been useful to them as it not only covers cases of genuine incompetence, but most importantly, it provides a cover for corruption and sinister agendas.
    
    The power of the “incompetence” meme is that it explains away behaviour that has no obvious sensible explanation, while making those that accept the “incompetence” explanation, feeling superior.
    
    Do you remember that British TV series, “Yes Minister” that pushed, through humour, the image of incompetent politicians and their bureaucratic handlers?
    
    All this is very useful in lulling people to sleep, and disarming our view of them, by thinking they’re stupid. Meanwhile the real power behind the curtain gets on with destroying us.
    
    Real monsters lurk behind the useful morons.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:40am
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO , the” real monsters”
      
      You naturally mean them Jooz ?
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:45am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        So you support the police not investigating these monsters? Those white girls were just trash to be used weren’t they Stephieboy.
        
        Try reading to understand what is being written rather than just seeing what you want to see to fit your inner narrative. EAD might rub against the grain at times but he is totally correct to be critical of the UK police in this case.
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:05am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        No, your goats. Now go off and enjoy your self….
        
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        March 21, 2018 8:29pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The Telford police seem to have been following “best practice” by not getting the abused girls to give evidence…. as it would have retraumatised them.
  
  “These included the fact that there would have been a requirement for victims to give evidence in court, furthering their ordeal.
  One of the abused girls hit back, telling the Mirror: “I was never told about these orders or asked if I would give evidence in court against my abusers. If I had been asked, I would have done.”
  
  How thoughtful of the ~~left~~ police, caring so deeply for children under their watch.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:57am
  - Anne Glen Eden
    
    Quite so, Maggy. The ‘poor’ girls must be left isolated and alone, knowing that their abusers continue to walk the streets in order to find ‘peace’. Not.
    
    This is not to mention the possibilities of video evidence, or that the biggest reason they’re likely to be retraumatised is all those ‘principled’, ‘honourable’, and ‘respectable’ lawyers and associated ‘professionals’ dedicated to calling and proving them to be promiscuous liars or enthusiastic child ‘experimenters’ with sex.
    
    It’s extraordinary really. Adults don’t care for them enough in the first place. Adults abuse them for self-indulgence or profit. Adults abuse them again for ‘justice’. And then adults decide they shouldn’t attempt justice because it will abuse them.
    
    The children are thrown under a bus at every point. Society has lost its mind.
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:22am
  - Andrei
    
    They aren’t educated upper middle class women or hollywood glitterati so #metoo does not apply
    
    And the men are from a polically correct protected class
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:37am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    How thoughtful of the ~~left~~ police, caring so deeply for children under their watch.
    
    Haven’t the “Conservatives” been in power for the past 8 years?
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:39am
  - stephieboy
    
    MW , from a Tabloid you conclude that the UK Police are left biased ?
    
    An astonishing claim !
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:47am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Read carefully, stephieboy…
      
      I did not write that the Police are left biased.
      I placed a strike through the word left.
      
      If you had been following this sad tale of police inaction against many of the Telford sex abusers, you would know that it is a Conservative MP, Lucy Allan who has been calling for a fresh inquiry into the Telford cases.
      http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-43391605
      
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      March 21, 2018 2:06pm
      - calendar girl
        
        Maggy, you are expecting a little too much of stephieboy, viz. “comprehension” of your completely-clear post at 8.57am.
        
        You used, appropriately, quotation marks, italics and the recognised ‘strike-out’ device to give your comment added clarity. I’m afraid that none of that effort helped stephieboy who, as we know, does not have a great grasp of English idiom or grammatical structure.
        
        His shortcoming are in evidence every day on KB, but he probably deserves our sympathy more than a rebuke. Nothing short of a quality education for stephieboy will change his personal difficulties.
        
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        March 21, 2018 6:21pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW , you typed left with a strike though . If so innocuous why not include right ?
        
        To add too the confusion .
        
        Your tenor appears to be derisive / contemptuous towards the Telford police.
        
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        March 21, 2018 6:33pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      SB – This hypocrisy from someone who has quoted political comment from Vanity Fair.
      
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      March 21, 2018 6:01pm
  - stephieboy
    
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    Maggy Wassilieff,
    
    what actually concerns you most about the Telforfd sex abuse claims ,
    
    1 The alleged offenders are Asian ?
    2 The same are likely Muslim ?
    3 More that there are claims about sex abuse irrespective of the above ?
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:56am
    - Scott
      
      What concerns me most stephieboy is that despite publicity about all the massive paedophile grooming gangs of Asian Muslim men targeting white girls, it is still going on!
      And the police still are reluctant to do anything because they don’t want to be seen as racist.
      
      And this situation is getting totally out of control in Germany. Apparently Muslim men are sexually assaulting women and children on a daily basis in Germany. And the newspapers will not report this.
      
      For those who have at the time a quick glance at this report is instructive. It is a very long list of the recent rapes and sexual assaults committed by Muslims in Germany just in recent times. It shows to me the appalling cost of political correctness where authorities and the newspapers refused to tell the truth about a massive Muslim crime wave in their country.
      
      https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12066/germany-rape-crisis
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:32am
      - stephieboy
        
        Scott , the gates stone institute are neither objective , scholarly or reliable .
        
        Downright biased . prejudiced and Islamaphobic !
        
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        March 21, 2018 6:38pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      4. That the perpetrators will get away with it.
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:33am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      what actually concerns you most about the Telforfd sex abuse claims ,
      
      Children being abused .
      I don’t care if the kids are black, white, yellow, muslim, Christian, jew or Hindoo, male , female or hermaphrodite.
      
      Read everything I have ever written here on KB, stephieboy.
      
      Is it too difficult for you to understand that I abhor violence (in any form) against any human being?
      
      But more specifically, what gives any adult the right to harm a child?
      
      Feel free to supply me with your answers, stephieboy.
      
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      March 21, 2018 12:08pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, yes I would agree that sex abuse of any form is abhorrent .
        
        And thanks for not trying to single out a persons religious or ethic background as some seem to like to do on KB .
        
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        March 21, 2018 2:19pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        So why keep trying to paint me as a racist, stephieboy?
        
        I’m glad that you can see that sex abuse is abhorrent, but I think that is only a subset of abuse.
        
        Why do you indulge in abusing folks like me on this blog?
        
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        March 21, 2018 2:26pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, where have i stated that you are personally a racist .
        
        A lot of the publicity concerning the Telford child abuse cases appears to focused by the Tabloids ( ( Sun, Daily Mail , Mirror ) on the fact that the alleged offenders are Asian .
        
        Is that relevant ?
        
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        March 21, 2018 2:30pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        alleged offenders
        
        Do you understand anything, stephieboy?
        They are not alleged offenders.
        There are a number convicted sex-abusers.
        they have been prosecuted, sentenced to jail, some have served their time and been released.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sex_abuse_ring
        
        The issue now is that these convictions have been recognised as just being the tip of the iceberg.
        
        A lot of the publicity concerning the Telford child abuse cases appears to focused by the Tabloids ( ( Sun, Daily Mail , Mirror ) on the fact that the alleged offenders are Asian .
        
        Well here’s Lucy Allan talking to the BBC.
        http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-shropshire-43418171/mp-inundated-by-claims-of-child-sex-abuse-in-telford
        Tabloid enough for you?
        
        Here’s a Labour MP writing in the Guardian about the Telford, Rotherham, Oxford, Rochdale sex-gang cover-ups.
        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/15/telford-get-serious-child-grooming-sexual-abuse
        
        Tabloid enough for you?
        
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        March 21, 2018 4:07pm
      - calendar girl
        
        That shut him up, Maggy. He was last seen slinking away from his implied accusations with his tail between his legs.
        
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        March 21, 2018 6:29pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Calendargirl , it wont shut me up , MW has assured me that she is not based against Pakistani men or the fact they are Muslim .
        
        I take it from here that the Telford and Rochdale offenders are first , child abusers , secondly men , thirdly of South Asian origin .
        
        I believe I have her reassurances that the fact they might be Muslims ( practicing or not ) is purely incidental .
        
        MW . could you back me up on that one ?
        
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        March 21, 2018 6:50pm
      - calendar girl
        
        Why should she, stephieboy (at 6.50pm)? She has told you what her views are, and that her attitude has nothing to do with colour, race, religion, gender or any other characteristics of the child abusers.
        
        “Children being abused” is what she is on about, and ensuring justice for those children from the prevailing law.
        
        What can’t you understand about that, stephieboy? Do you now suspect / allege that Maggy is misrepresenting her concerns, that she doesn’t really have the principles that actually motivate those concerns?
        
        You have already acknowledged at 2.19pm that Maggy has not tried to single out a person’s religious or ethic background as a factor in these heinous crimes against helpless children. Yet almost every other comment from you in your exchange with Maggy has suggested that you actually believe otherwise.
        
        Stop your abusive trolling, stephieboy, and more importantly stop trying to besmirch Maggy’s character.
        
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        March 21, 2018 8:30pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        CG
        I am afraid that Ralph/Stephies bullying trolling behaviour and his mysogyny has been prevalent for some time now.
        Quite the awful little man.
        
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        March 21, 2018 8:41pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  This is our future
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:10am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    I wonder if it was just coincidental that the Politicians in the West (except the USA) made sure we were all disarmed before they began flooding us with these 3rd worlders?
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:05am
- DigNap15
  
  The local police chief should be sacked! And replaced with someone with balls.
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:05pm
  - dave_c_
    
    I doubt ‘she’ would like that !
    
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    March 21, 2018 2:21pm
MCos

Recently the Australian government hosted the ASEAN leaders. Turnbull must have cringed when obliged to shake the blood soaked hands of some of those people; none more so than former victim of the Myanmar military, Aung San Suu Kyi, and now their chief apologist as they murder the Rohingya and other ethnic minorities in their country.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/aung-san-suu-kyi-fallen-lady-has-no-good-answers-20180319-p4z51l.html
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March 21, 2018 8:42am
- DigNap15
  
  I think he would been honoured to meet her.
  They are not murdering them wholesale, they are just pushing them out of their beautiful budhist country.
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:02pm
Monique Watson

Yep. A hero in Maryland prevented another Sandy Hook

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

Happened just months after we entered the U.S. I had kids the same age as those that were body bagged.
I still do. Six and seven year-olds. Fucking Heartbreaking.
Can’t prevent nutters from obtaining weapons but if one armed individual is in the right place at the right time you can prevent unimaginable tragedy.
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March 21, 2018 8:52am
- stephieboy
  
  Monaique Watson , and we can be very thankful that this kind of thing is highly unlikely to happen here .
  
  Right ?
  
  Interesting that there are nutters still around who think that Sandy Hook was a conspiracy .
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:59am
RF

Dear God…

Mike Hosking had Steve Joyce and a screech owl on his show this morning.

JAG was shouting over Steve and then accusing him of doing the same. I had previously thought she could work in with National but after hearing her today……No Way. She is bat shit crazy.

Christ… back to the horse and cart days…..
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March 21, 2018 9:02am
- alloytoo
  
  What time was this (want to listen on demand)?
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:12am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/ZB/auckland/2018.03.21-08.00.00-D.mp3
    
    7:45secs in
    
    Joyce’s dry wit is outstanding.
    
    “What about Goldfish on buses?”
    “This is obviously one of those issues that is hugely important”
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:23am
    - Rodney Randall
      
      http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/ZB/auckland/2018.03.21-08.15.00-D.mp3
      
      2:13sec in 815 – 830 section carry over.
      
      MAD J.A.G. does indeed go “full retard” in this section.
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:31am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Thanks for those links Rodney.
        My God, that Genter is one dangerous woman.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:52am
      - Rodney Randall
        
        Captain Mainwaring.
        
        You’re welcome
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:57am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      JAG – what an utterly hideous creature.
      
      And Rodney – thank you very much sir for linking
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:21am
- kevn
  
  @RF… She, JAG, must distracted with the high road toll. There was a promise/aim of zero or somesuch.
  That Tracey Martin is a screecher as well, like a chainsaw. Perhaps that ‘talent’ is a qualification?
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:25am
- niggly
  
  RF – let’s not forget this performance from last year -see 37″ into the video!
  
  http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/08/tizzy-fit-not-a-good-look-for-the-greens-duncan-garner.html
  
  Nope, she is another nutty/angry/righteous/sanctimonious/MeTu fraud supporting/David Clendon & Kennedy Graham hating/oil and gas using/ever expanding carbon footprint & air-miles polluting Greenie MP! Not a bad gig for someone that has just barely lived in this country 5 minutes!
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:26am
  - KiWombat
    
    Born, bred and educated in the US, then moved to Paris for a while, maybe NZ is just a whistle stop on her world tour !
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:45am
  - Longknives
    
    Good God!
    What a tantrum!
    That to me speaks volumes- Even on your worst day you don’t lose your cool and lash out…
    That nutjob is totally unsuited for Parliament.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:47am
  - Paulus
    
    Hey, hey – you cannot say that about a pregnant woman.
    Her hormones come first.
    
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    March 21, 2018 1:34pm
- Poppa
  
  She is mad as a hatter
  
  I saw her at a conference I attended a couple of years ago & she acted like a homeless person, dressed like a sack of spuds
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:12am
- thedavincimode
  
  Putting aside the shrieking elements, her comments regarding the impending changes that would prevent foreign investors from undertaking major developments were interesting. Joyce in effect made the point that the Kauri Cliffs type developments wouldn’t ever happen without foreign investment – if foreigners hadn’t been involved, those spaces would just be paddocks and with the benefit of foreigners, these developments create tourism and employment benefits and positively enhance NZ’s foreign reputation (the Kenyan is apparently playing at Kauri Cliffs today). We must have at least half a dozen of these types of developments here now; most of which are north of Auckland and at least two of which are in the far north employing local Maori.
  genter’s replay was that this sort of investment could happen without foreign capital. In fact, she’s quite wrong. The upfront risks in these developments are colossal and the returns are unimpressive to say the least. In fact, I expect that the business returns in some of them are more in the nature of subsidising ongoing cost.
  
  Some of this sort of investment would never ordinarily occur – there is no business case to be made for it and it requires the indulgent investment of foreign billionaires who have so much money they don’t care about the business case. Rather than representing the surrendering of our sovereignty – as the shrieker asserted – these large scale developments are a significant freebie for which we should be grateful. Just the development costs alone would run into the hundreds of millions and rather than telling these people to buzz off, we should be saying thanks very much. Given that most of these people are US billionaires who spend a lot of time in this country by all accounts – some of them like the place so much they make other contributions in NZ – to the arts (Julian Robertson) and to local Maori one way or another – or whatever – one can’t help but notice the irony in hearing genter rabbiting on about evil foreigners.
  
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  March 21, 2018 11:20am
  - virtualmark
    
    You’re somewhat right. And so is Key. And so is Genter.
    
    The sorts of developments that Key is referring to, such as Julian Robertson’s golf courses, wouldn’t happen without foreign money.
    
    That said, the reason the locals wouldn’t develop them is because the land is more profitable as farm land. The golf courses will *never* provide a commercial return on the investment in them. They are an indulgence by a foreign billionaire who is investing for lifestyle reasons rather than commercial reasons.
    
    So … they’re “nice”, but they’re uneconomic, and Kiwis are either (a) pragmatic enough to not waste money on indulgences or (b) not rich enough to casually waste a few hundred million on indulgences.
    
    None of that is “wrong”. It just is what it is.
    
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    March 21, 2018 12:03pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    A bit rich an American who has moved to NZ to take advantage of our lifestyle telling other American’s they cannot invest and enjoy the NZ lifestyle! ?
    
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    March 21, 2018 2:00pm
- Flash
  
  I had gone back to sleep, but that loud screechyAmerican female voice (Hear ME First!!!) surely woke me up!
  I hope that she failed her audition for a permanent spot on Hoskings show.
  
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  March 21, 2018 2:35pm
flipper

JAG ?

Genter ?
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March 21, 2018 9:18am
- CrazyIvan
  
  JAG – ever time I read this I thought about the 1990s TV show and the crush I had on Catherine Bell…
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:22pm
niggly

So about the Labour & Young Labour Summer “re-education” Camps.

Although media have generally covered the assaults, excessive drinking and Labour Party cover up reasonably well (for a Red on Red situation i.e. media on Labour) …. there’s one troubling aspect they are barely discussing, if not at all.

Which is why the Labour Party promotes the idea that really young people, as young as 14 to 18 should be (and are/always have been) attending these camps. Talk about “grooming” them, not sexually, but politically i.e. ideology wise.

I thought society wanted young school-age people to have open minds and learn as much about different subjects and opinions in order to broaden their knowledge and comprehension of the world, before they set off to seek higher education, travel the world or commence working?

But it seems like Labour want to “control” the thoughts of their Young 14-18 Labour volunteers by telling them how to think politically. Isn’t this not too dissimilar to the way Cult’s operate? If so why is this a good idea and/or tolerated?
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March 21, 2018 9:19am
- Paulus
  
  Shane Jones is taking the headlines away from the Labour Yoof Ball’s up.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:35am
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  You are joking. Children in NZ are simply opportunities for obsessed adults to indulge all their wildest fantasies of indoctrination and training to whatever the adults want.
  
  It’s undoubtedly bad enough in places where there are very large populations with a spread of views.
  
  But in NZ it’s very focused and whoever captures the ‘youth’ has massive power over the ‘future’ – and we start at kindergarten and playgroups. As they get into adolescence, we engage them with every social evil possible which adults enjoy, call it ‘freedom’, and impose upon them the expectation that they will be able to handle all those things that adults haven’t managed throughout the history of the species – and they have to do it alone – or at least with the ‘support’ of the Party, not their families. Who cares about ‘love’? Except sexually.
  
  They have endless potential if they’ll just stop thinking about being who and what they are – unless it’s their sexual whims/urges – and focus on what they can make everyone else be/become to satisfy their undeveloped needs in the way they’re told by the current generation of adults. Under no circumstances should they be encouraged, or even allowed, to stand on the historical shoulders of all who have gone before. This is now. They can do something completely ‘new’. ‘We’ have the answers to all of human existence. Not.
  
  Then adults sit around pontificating about why we have the highest teen suicide rate in the developed world, both deliberately and through alcohol, drugs, and speed etc. But, of course, it’s because they’re not indoctrinated enough, not enough ‘alone’, and don’t have enough political engagement or power. We can fix that.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:53am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Anne Glen Eden, can’t see any practical and sensible solutions coming out of that rant .
    
    An important issue. Have another go !
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:03am
    - Nev.
      
      Says the stupid boy with 22 thousand low IQ childish rants to his name.
      Nev.
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:32am
      - thedavincimode
        
        I expect budgie brain is sick of being kicked in the balls by Maggy, so he’s trying his luck trolling Anne GE.
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:30am
      - Swifty
        
        I just love it when Maggy kicks him in the balls – and she does it so effortlessly.
        
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        March 21, 2018 1:48pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Swofty ,
        
        “..and she does it so effortlessly.”
        
        Examples ?
        
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        March 21, 2018 2:16pm
      - Swifty
        
        Stephieboy – too many to list – would take me all day to compile.
        
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        March 21, 2018 2:29pm
    - Anne Glen Eden
      
      You’re right stephieboy. It is negative. But then, it’s difficult to get any ‘cut through’ when you’re talking to people who all believe they have the answers to life if they could just force everyone else to think the same; or alternatively, are so obsessed with their individual causes, they don’t really care about the big picture.
      
      There’s a wish list, though.
      
      All education centres become completely apolitical by law. At early ages, they focus entirely on providing the skills to process information, all ‘education’ beginning with the pure and simple statement that the human species has been around for a very long time and has never managed to create a society/world that allows people to live sustainably and in peace – and that we are not managing it any better now than any which has gone before. Education should include a survey of all that has gone before.
      
      It will be their challenge to have their turn. The aim is to specifically not focus on elevating any one group or interest, but engage with the simple task of enabling every human being to be raised in a loving environment which respects one another and fosters the development of their full potential – mentally, physically, and emotionally – as individuals and as members of the whole society they live in. Their eventual skills to be combined in a collaborative and progressive effort to generate that into the social sphere.
      
      No excuses for any education, training, or philosophy that promotes the advantage of one particular interest group over another; and no excuses for any adult of inappropriate care or treatment of anyone (defined as harming the development of their unbiased potential) who is not fully mature, in full possession of all the information which pertains to their circumstance, and without the power to properly assess or alter it.
      
      That would keep us all busy. If we could achieve any of that, even in the Jesuit ‘first seven years’, we’d all be a lot better off.
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:48am
      - KevOB
        
        Try getting into a Teachers’ College or graduating from one with your opinions. Teaching has become the occupation, in the main, for the incapable and “I’m going to fix the world” socialists. Babysitting second class.
        
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        March 21, 2018 1:27pm
- Nev.
  
  The left is, and always has been cultish in their slavic devotion to their beliefs. Look at the Standard.
  Nev.
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:06am
- Paulus
  
  Same as many other countries like say the Socialist Norway where one man decided enough was enough and shot the party indoctrination place up.
  Socialism is like Cancer – it does not stop creeping.
  
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  March 21, 2018 1:37pm
Harkman

So the media is going Gaga over Obama. So he only visits us if he gets paid half a million (US) dollars. Gee he really likes us.
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March 21, 2018 9:20am
- stephieboy
  
  Harkman , I think he genuinely does !
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:04am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Con men love the gullible
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:31am
  - Harkman
    
    Really, yah think.
    
    Only 15 posts so far, slow day.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:35am
- fernglas
  
  What is so hard for you guys to understand? He is the ex-president, he is marketable and there are clearly enough mugs out there to pay him $550k a pop for his company, $7mil as an advance for his book and probably a couple of grand for one of his used handkerchiefs. People do the same to hear others; my niece in LA is paying over a grand to hear Gwyneth Paltrow speak, FFS. It doesn’t matter a fuck whether he likes us, just whether we like him.
  
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  March 21, 2018 11:33am
Im Right

Kinda like the vote Trump or Clinton scenario…both bad. With the Greens having Marama and JAG up for co-leader vote it’s the same scenario. Marama seems like she thinks it’s in the bag because she is a Maori whahine (she trots that out at every interview she does it seems) and JAG is just another loudmouth know it all American. Who do I think will get the position?, well with the Greens being the biggest virtue signalling outfit in Parliament and they already have a white male leader…I’ll let you guess that one 🙂
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March 21, 2018 9:47am
BeaB

Love the contortions over Obama’s visit – the Left (and the media) love Obama but hate rich pricks, John Key, Max Key, golf, rich Americans, any Americans, private helicopters, private dinners – the list goes on…
What crazy knots they tie themselves up in.
They’d go completely nuts if this was a visit by Trump after his two terms.
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March 21, 2018 9:50am
- doggone7
  
  Love the contortions over Obama’s visit – those who think that along with H Clinton he is the biggest criminal in the world since WW2, love the fact that he’s bosom buddies with Sir John Key.
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:07am
  - Inandout
    
    One could read lots into Key’s buddying up to Obama, and the attendant costs of the latter’s visit here (Secret Service agents are supplied regardless). I am still curious as to why Key resigned so suddenly, but I have deliberately ignored the rumoured reasons. I consider Obama the worst US President of modern times, surviving mostly through his glib tongue.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:49am
- stephieboy
  
  BeaB,
  
  “They’d go completely nuts if this was a visit by Trump after his two terms.”
  
  With some justification for example his persistent lies , sex groping claims still hanging over him , Mexican wall ,, Muller investigation etc, etc
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:08am
Manolo

Dismal participation of Mrs Genter on the radio this morning.

The communist Greens prove to be (once again) enemies of progress and development.
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March 21, 2018 9:51am
- stephieboy
  
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  Manolo , but they can reach the 5% which is just a fantasy for you and the KB and Whale Blubber and alt right !
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:10am
  - Longknives
    
    “but they can reach the 5% which is just a fantasy for you”
    
    Eh? I’m pretty sure National got 46-47% of the vote at the Election.
    Are you suggesting they will drop below 5%??
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:22am
    - Prince
      
      The point is Manolo etc rail against National as being ‘too left’.
      But the party to the right of National wins under 0.5% of the vote.
      
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      March 21, 2018 11:05am
    - stephieboy
      
      Longknives , the 5% threshold for those parties that can get seats in Parliament .
      
      A pipe dream for the alt right and ACT too.
      
      Simple !
      
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      March 21, 2018 2:13pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    … chirrup … chirrup … alt right alt right … chirrup …
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:32am
wreck1080

Is it just me, or is there a general lack of enthusiasm for the americas cup now?
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March 21, 2018 9:57am
- cmm
  
  There was huge hype over the “Red socks” campaign winning the Americas cup back in 1995 or whenever.
  
  Since then it has become a bit more “been there, done that”.
  
  The same is true of many major eyeball pullers. Over a billion people watched the Apollo 11 moon landings live on TV. By Apollo 14 it didn’t even get more than 20 seconds on the news.
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:05am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    Apollo 13 got a lot of publicity too, for different reasons!
    
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    March 21, 2018 12:35pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Even when Alan Shepard tried to cultivate the golf-viewing niche?! 😉
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUwGe9zzxoE
    
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    March 21, 2018 12:39pm
- Poppa
  
  I am sure there will be heaps of interest in it once it gets near
  
  This time we are going to mono hull design which will be great I think. They couldn’t race the multi hulls here because of the likely wind range
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:17am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Zzzzzz
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:38am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    The multihulls worked fine in 6-22kts, they would have stuck with them if it hadn’t been for Prada’s veto.
    
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    March 21, 2018 10:45am
- Longknives
  
  Agree Wreck.
  
  I loved it when I was a kid- Especially KZ7 in Freemantle in ’86-87. (Yes Kimbo I know her real name was ‘Kiwi Magic’)
  But now it’s all just a bit dull.
  Not sure why- Michael Fay certainly did his bit to kill the Goose with his ridiculous ‘Big Boat’ challenge, but maybe because all the colourful characters are gone? (Think ’86 with Conner, Bond, Syd Fischer etc)
  Or maybe they need to go back to the 12 metres?
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:37am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Or maybe you don’t have any interest in yachting. You’re only interested in the side show.
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:34am
  - dave_c_
    
    Longknives, I think we need to get back to the times where we citizens saw events like this as a ‘country thing’, representative of citizenry and the joy they could get out of it.
    These days, more and more citizenry are learning that these events are actually run by, participated in by, and only for the ‘corporations’ which own them.
    Profit is now seen as king, whereas previously it was a ‘community thing’.
    
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    March 21, 2018 2:29pm
cmm

Genter score now 95 for the month (76 last year). Anything over 85 is statistically significant.

Last 12 months: 399. Last year 322. Anything over 340 is statistically significant.

Last time it was this bad was in 2005 and based on the current trajectory we’re looking at the worst since 2000.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/road-deaths/toll.html
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March 21, 2018 10:39am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Nearly all fatal accidents involve drivers wearing underpants.
  
  Ban underpants, save lives!
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:46am
  - KiWombat
    
    Lets have a discussion about that !
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:27am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Is there data on socioeconomic of crashes? My theory is that with increased prosperity of ‘underclasses’ and proportionally lower cost of car ownership they are driving more and hence causing more crashes. Numbers dying due to no seat belts (stupid/poor) probably supports this.
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:49am
  - dave_c_
    
    Urban – ‘underclasses’ – Watch out lest ye be accused of racism, or some other forbidden hobby horse.
    
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    March 21, 2018 2:32pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Could rise be due to smartphones?
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:51am
  - kowtow
    
    My money’s on the phone theory . I see people of all types and classes with phone in hand or head down not looking at the road ( how the fuck they think that’s ok ) while driving . Constantly . Even on state highways doing 100 kph, head down !
    
    People are learning to not pay attention to what they’re doing , and that includes pedestrians crossing the road , etc
    
    Mindless fucking morons , particularly the drivers who deliberately put those around them at risk.
    
    More dangerous than firearms users!
    
    Where’s the outrage?
    
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    March 21, 2018 11:08am
- KiWombat
  
  Someone needs to put more chlorine in her gene pool !
  
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  March 21, 2018 11:29am
- wreck1080
  
  My theory– the road toll has been largely falling because of car safety improvements and better roads.
  
  eg, those cheese cutter barriers must have saved many lives, for which the cops are probably crediting themselves.
  
  Cops are largely irrelevant to any falls in the road toll, despite their big egos and self back pats.
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:55pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    the road toll had been falling. Not so for last 3-4 years.
    
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    March 21, 2018 1:57pm
- howitis
  
  In fact it is Year to Date (YTD) = 95
  Each month so far in 2018 the number of dead people is up on same month a year ago.
  
  Nearly every Type of death (Driver, passenger, motorcycle, MC Pillion) is up YTD.
  The only ones down are Pedestrians and Pedal cycles but rolling 12 months are up.
  https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/road-deaths/toll.html
  
  This might be a good time to start putting coffins outside Genter’s office.
  95 and counting.
  These Green activists like their marches and demonstrations.
  See how they like it as a recipient!
  
  Zero suicides and lower road toll?
  The same truth as forests and houses!
  Virtually nothing has changed after half a year of a change of government except their personal kaching$$$ and limo rides.
  They are adding to warming with all the hot air though.
  
  All hui, no doey.
  I would say ‘welcome to the real world’ but these incompetent frauds are not welcome to my world.
  
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  March 21, 2018 1:21pm
kowtow

It’s not what is said , it is who said it.

Had an American Republican mayor made this proclamation it would be roundly and hysterically condemned as an insult to the memories of all the victims of IRA terror .
In addition to that a number of Sinn Fein pollies have added insult to injury by making jokes about victims of IRA violence , but it’s ok when the left do it.

‘New York mayor Bill de Blasio has infuriated unionists by proclaiming this year’s St Patrick’s Day as Gerry Adams Day.’

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/new-york-mayor-de-blasios-gerry-adams-day-proclamation-angers-unionists-36716273.html

‘A Sinn Féin MP has been forced to apologise after posting a video tweet showing him with a Kingsmill loaf on his head on the 42nd anniversary of the Kingsmill massacre in Northern Ireland.’

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/06/sinn-fein-mp-apologises-for-loaf-tweet-on-kingsmill-massacre-anniversary-barry-mcelduff

And a SF Senator has been suspended in Ireland for making a crass comment about the murder of a prison officer there.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0319/948563-sinn-fein-senator-suspended/

Where’s the outrage?
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March 21, 2018 11:03am
JasonJohns

A huge win for democracy and order in Russia, with Putin taking out 75% of the vote. Trump has congratulated him on one of the most spectacular election wins of all time
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/20/trump-congratulate-putin-election-victory
Trumpy’s true margin over HRC was probably as huge as Putin’s over his rivals, but in the US unlike Russia there is massive electoral fraud and distortions of the people’s will.
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March 21, 2018 11:26am
- virtualmark
  
  Did Putin get 75% of the casting of votes? Or 75% of the counting of votes?
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:06pm
  - Ross12
    
    I saw a clip on the box the other night explaining how they monitored the voting process , how many observers etc. It seemed very comprehensive to me.
    One of the visiting observers (ie. from another country) said there were a few ideas he would recommend back home.
    
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    March 21, 2018 12:53pm
    - virtualmark
      
      So the guy from Pakistan said that he would recommend back home that they imprison and persecute any prospective opposition candidates?
      
      If you really believe Putin’s election was true democracy in action then I have a bridge to sell you.
      
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      March 21, 2018 1:13pm
      - Ross12
        
        No, it was a guy from Poland and I was referring to the voting procedure, not the election as whole.
        
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        March 21, 2018 5:13pm
  - dave_c_
    
    No – he probably got the pre-ordained 75% mark. Very convenient.
    
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    March 21, 2018 2:34pm
- Felt
  
  Twice as much as Cindy’s team!
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:51pm
Kimbo

Shane Jones to Air New Zealand chief executive Christopher Luxon:

“Do not poke your nose into the political boxing ring unless you’re going to resign today and join the ranks of the National Party. This is a legitimate issue on behalf of those provincial areas who have been shortchanged. I’ve said all along, my focus is on the board.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12016961

Ah, but Shane, if only politicians without business expertise wouldn’t stick their nose into Luxon’s first! 😉
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March 21, 2018 11:32am
- rangitoto
  
  Luxton should tell Jones to cut down on the wanking. He’ll go blind at this rate.
  
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  March 21, 2018 11:38am
- mandk
  
  Has Shane Jones actually ever run a business?
  
  Air NZ operates in a competitive market.
  
  There are at least 10 airlines operating domestic services in NZ, and Air NZ has direct competition on its main domestic routes.
  
  Perhaps Jones should invite a charity to operate flights to/from Kapiti and to/from Kaitaia on a community service basis. That would work, wouldn’t it?
  
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  March 21, 2018 11:45am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Seriously? Does Shane realise the abject stupidity of making a statement such as the one above.
  
  “Don’t poke your nose into politics while I’m talking shit about your airline”
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:17pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Yeah, he does. But he’s talking to the 7% of idiots who don’t, and who may just vote for NZ First on the basis of their regional development for the “neglected rural regions” lolly scramble.
    
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    March 21, 2018 12:26pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Last I heard, some of those 7% have wised up a bit.
      
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      March 21, 2018 1:11pm
      - Kimbo
        
        As their sometimes-Messiah (“I say you are the Messiah and I should know, I’ve followed a few!”) says
        
        …the only poll that counts is on election day! 😉
        
        Who knows, in two and half years – if the coalition government goes that far – even Chuck Bird may have forgotten the perfidy and incompetence of Winston Peters and his motley crew, and will be spruiking for NZ First once more here on Kiwiblog. Indeed, given Chuck’s faculties and age, I’d almost put money on it! 😉
        
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        March 21, 2018 1:26pm
      - Kimbo
        
        …indeed, given Chuck Bird’s wilful and incorrigible inability to distinguish legal niceties such as the difference between statutory rape and paeodophilia,
        
        …or the need for a jury to uphold their oath and a judge’s instruction to carefully deliberate their decision
        
        …by 2020 Chuck will likely be defending Shane Jones’s grandstanding which ignores, indeed even defies the State-Owned Enterprises Act as per Swifty’s post below at 1:23PM
        
        ….and he will be the chairman on the Ngaruawahia branch of Winston Peters/Shane Jones mafioso business shakedowns and intimidation. 😉
        
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        March 21, 2018 1:38pm
  - howitis
    
    John Key gave Shane Jones his sweetheart paid jaunt around the Pacific for 3 years after he failed to become leader of the Labour pardy.
    John Key is on the board of Air NZ.
    Shane Jones believes in biting the hand that feeds him.
    
    People in glass houses!
    …In 2008, when Jones was Minister of Immigration, he approved the citizenship application of Chinese businessman William Yan. Yan was charged with making false declarations on immigration documents. …. …Jones had acted against officials’ advice that he should decline the application because of questions about Yan’s multiple identities and a warrant for his arrest in China. Jones defended his decision, saying it was based on humanitarian grounds because a high-level Government official had told him that Yan faced execution if he returned to China….
    .. also known as Bill Liu, Yang Liu and Yong Ming Yan ….
    …A controversial Chinese businessman with links to the Labour Party is paying out the Government almost $43 million to settle the seizure of his assets.
    William Yan has managed to avoid any criminal and civil responsibility for his alleged money-laundering, in the two-year long court case.
    He’s fifth on China’s most-wanted list for allegedly stealing about $129 million in a complex fraud. ….
    
    Jones still has the stink of that on him.
    
    Key will have access to the full story.
    Remember Colin Moyle and Muldoon.
    Don’t piss off the wrong people when there are skeletons in your closet.
    
    Or in Jones own words…et cetera, et cetera.
    
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    March 21, 2018 1:57pm
Longknives

Seems Miss ‘I’m so sorry for being White’ Lorde has had her 15 min of fame..

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/mar/19/lorde-us-tour-flops-pop-career

On the downside- This self-righteous one hit wonder will probably come home,get a spot on the Green Party list and annoy us forever…
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March 21, 2018 11:48am
- MCos
  
  Typical NZ.
  Always ready to stick the knife into someone whose success they don’t understand such as Lorde, Theo Spierings or John Key.
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:16pm
- Peter
  
  Fickle business, pop music. Much like being a NZFirst deputy.
  
  Still, she’s done alright out of it. It was never going to last forever.
  
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  March 21, 2018 1:22pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  She’s done damned well, and remains a gifted musician, but she is no longer the wunderkind, and seems not to have the talent/capacity for image management necessary to prolong a career amongst vapid fans when you are female. Kudos to her regardless.
  
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  March 21, 2018 2:03pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    A ‘gifted musician’.
    
    That’s one of the funniest things I’ve read on this blog for months!
    
    I heard a bit of her tubeless agonized howling once and it reminded me of a constipated possum trying to take a shit.
    
    A ‘gifted musician’. A ‘gifted musician’. A ‘gifted musician’……. ????
    
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    March 21, 2018 5:13pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Selling 4million albums is no mean feat. Not your or my cup of tea but nonetheless worthy of respect.
      
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      March 21, 2018 8:43pm
Longknives

And in more important music news-
Arise Sir Ringo!

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-43472196
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March 21, 2018 11:49am
- Kimbo
  
  Fair enough. They had already previously given a knighthood to the “best drummer in the Beatles”. ?
  
  But Ringo may not have been the best drummer in the world, but he was the best drummer for the Beatles. Except for “Back in the USSR”, and “Dear Prudence”. ?
  
  Been listening lately to the John Lennon psychedelic and/or experimental songs from that magic year the Beatles had in ’67 – Strawberry Fields, Penny Lane, Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, For the Benefit of Mr Kite, A Day in the Life, All you Need is Love, I am the Walrus
  
  – and on those, and yes, even “Paul’s granny music shit” Hello Goodbye, Ringo’s drumming is really intriguing.
  
  Also, don’t know why Lennon got all paranoid at the time (ok, there was the dope, acid and smack he was on!) thinking that McCartney was trying to push all Lennon’s song ideas of that era in an “experimental” direction, while McCartney’s stayed more mainstream. That burst of Lennon songs in ’67 is some of Lennon’s absolute best. But nothing will ever match “Octopus’s Garden”! 😉
  
  Anyway, well done Sir Richard Starkey.
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:00pm
  - Longknives
    
    C’mon Kimbo- The man is pure genius!
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvEexTomE1I
    
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    March 21, 2018 12:11pm
    - Longknives
      
      Okay so general consensus is that George Harrison wrote that song for him…
      But neither Lennon nor McCartney can claim to have been in a movie as classic as this-
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u58TKioxsVs
      
      Co-Starring the lovely Barbara Bach…
      
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      March 21, 2018 12:15pm
sooty

So Obama flys in on his own private jet. Do the secret service follow in a globemaster with the armoured car, bucket load of hand guns, sniper rifles, RPG’s etc. What’s happening with crim fat con and his courtcase against Obama. The armed gaurds would probably have something to say if any one tried to cerve a writ.
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March 21, 2018 11:53am
- rangitoto
  
  I wonder how much CO2 this little jaunt produced. How many polar bears and penguins were killed?
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:01pm
DigNap15

A cheeky prisoner!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/102422866/convicted-killer-and-rapist-richard-genge-ordered-to-pay-government-for-its-legal-costs

I hope he keeps getting denied parole, and that he does die in prison, for what he did to that poor lady.
There should be no tv (a luxury) and a sturdy hook in the ceiling of every cell.

I hope Angry Andy does not hear about him he’d probably want to let him out!

And good on the judge for asking him to pay the costs!
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March 21, 2018 11:59am
- RalphT
  
  I note that this idiot took four civil cases in 2017. At the very least he should be declared a vexatious litigant so he can be prevented from wasting the time of the court (and our money).
  
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  March 21, 2018 12:33pm
Swifty

Has Shane Jones even read the State-Owned Enterprises Act?

Jones slammed by commentators for his meddling:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/102458832/stateowned-companies-there-to-make-profit-only-analyst-says
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March 21, 2018 1:23pm
- Poppa
  
  No would be the answer you are looking for.
  
  He is a blowhard buffoon
  
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  March 21, 2018 2:06pm
  - sooty
    
    Yes but he got the headlines changed for Labour, no more sex camps. Idiots have their uses.
    
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    March 21, 2018 2:45pm
    - Longknives
      
      I heard Shane had already signed himself up for the next Young Labour camp/orgy…
      
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      March 21, 2018 3:53pm
  - DigNap15
    
    But I really enjoy his elloquent turn of phrase
    
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    March 21, 2018 3:29pm
- RF
  
  The finger pointing commie chick has scalded Jones for his Air NZ comments so NZ First will publicly lick their wounds but privately laugh at the mouse that roared.
  
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  March 21, 2018 3:11pm
JasonJohns

74% is four points higher than Putin’s 70% 2004 landslide re-election win.

A couple of points off a 80% approval rating. He could scarcely have done better.

And the 64% voter turnout is just a few points short of the 70% Kremlin target.

A win is still a win.
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March 21, 2018 2:05pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jason Jones , an interesting contrast to our PM and the US Presidential rating..
  
  BTW who was Putin’s contender ?
  
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  March 21, 2018 2:08pm
JasonJohns

Trump has called Putin to congratulate him on his democratic mandate. Did Theresa May call Putin and congratulate him? At the same time she could apologize for her false flag operation just before Russia’s election.
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March 21, 2018 2:07pm
- stephieboy
  
  JasonJones , can’t think the life of me why the UK PM should given the Salisbury nerve attack .
  
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  March 21, 2018 2:09pm
  - JasonJohns
    
    HRC ordered May to do the deed, many commentators say.
    
    Putin and Trump will solve this mystery.
    
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    March 21, 2018 2:16pm
    - stephieboy
      
      JJ,
      
      “..many commentators say.”
      
      Whom ?
      
      HRC ?
      
      This ? ,
      
      http://www.heartrhythmcongress.org
      
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      March 21, 2018 2:34pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Bring your own water if you are travelling thro’ the Queensland hinterland.
Brain-eating parasites in their water.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-20/professor-encouraging-rural-communities-to-treat-their-water/9567366
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March 21, 2018 2:37pm
- rangitoto
  
  “Brain-eating parasites”
  
  The Green’s have even spread to the Queensland hinterland?
  
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  March 21, 2018 4:49pm
wiseowl

Nick Smith asks Megan Woods a question in Parliament today relating to the ship hopping bill.
Woods answer was so frightening.
Frightening given the list of UN directives she read out that this country abides by and that was only about 8.
Trouble is that Smith is also a fan of the UN and has been happy to follow there objectives as well.
Time for UNexit.
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March 21, 2018 3:02pm
DigNap15

Gee that Megan Wood is a disgusting example of womanhood.
Never mind her politics
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March 21, 2018 3:31pm
- Que Sera Sera
  
  Come on DN15, you are hiding behind the key board again.
  
  It is far to easy to be critical of others physical features.
  I also know that Megan Wood is a really nice person, you should get to know her.
  
  But I suspect your comment is just playing, plain old politics again.
  
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  March 21, 2018 3:52pm
  - Longknives
    
    “I also know that Megan Wood is a really nice person”
    
    A “Really nice person” who doesn’t report Sex Attacks against children to the Police…Because- The Labour Party comes First Ya Know?..
    
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    March 21, 2018 4:18pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    “I also know that Megan Wood is a really nice person, you should get to know her“
    
    That’s nice, but is she competent?
    
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    March 21, 2018 6:39pm
Fletch

According to what a member of my family tells me is in the Herald, NZ flew over chef Peter Gordon from London especially to cook for Obama.. WTF?!
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March 21, 2018 3:58pm
- fernglas
  
  The lead actors in Game of Thrones reportedly get $3,900,000 per episode. Obama, the former leader of the free world, gets $550,000 per speech. Private individuals pay to see him. Air New Zealand (as Shane Jones now knows, a commercial enterprise) sponsors the dinner. Some billionaire Yanks donate accommodation and a couple of rounds of golf. I don’t see the NZ taxpayer paying for Peter Gordon to fly over. If that is not the case, then it is none of our business, unless we are a little wee bit jealous that we are not so successful.
  
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  March 21, 2018 4:53pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , direct sources are much more preferable than second / third hand family gos .
  
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  March 21, 2018 5:08pm
Jack5

The Trans Pacific Trade partnership New Zealand has signed mightn’t get off the ground.

The problem is ratification by Japan. This is threatened by a political scandal that might bring down the Japanese Government, reports the South China Morning Post.

The deal will become effective only when six countries ratify it in their respective domestic legislatures.

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/2137558/just-when-tpp-thought-it-was-safe-scandal-japan-and-election
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March 21, 2018 4:19pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Tasnim Lowe is the daughter of a 14 year-old Telford sex abuse victim.

Here she talks to the BBC questioning why her father was never charged with sex crimes.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-43471241
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March 21, 2018 4:25pm
- nasska
  
  …..”why her father was never charged with sex crimes.”…..
  
  I think I may have the answer Maggy. The clue is in the name of the father……Azhar Ali Mehmood.
  
  In other words, he’s a stinking Muslim & as such a protected species in former Great Britain.
  
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  March 21, 2018 4:48pm
  - stephieboy
    
    nasska , and only stinking Muslims commit child sex abuse ?
    
    Yeah right !
    
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4486976/Inside-home-predator-filmed-abuse-children.html
    
    and ,
    
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/02/no-bail-for-alleged-nz-pedophile.html
    
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    March 21, 2018 5:01pm
    - nasska
      
      Your response caused me to start thinking about illiteracy & how it can impact on people. Back nearly fifty years ago I used to work part time in the bottle store of a local pub. Often on a Saturday arvo this old bloke who had worked on the Council would come in, hand me a letter or two & ask me to read them.
      
      He was totally illiterate……he could neither read nor write but once you read him something & perhaps explained some of the official verbiage he immediately grasped the gist of the matter & committed it to memory.
      
      Unlike yourself who in your haste to exonerate this misogynistic, depraved cult rushes in with “only stinking Muslims commit child sex abuse?” as a puerile deflection.
      
      You see, the kid in Maggy’s reference wanted to know why her father wasn’t charged with sex crimes…..not what other people do.
      
      Comprehension F – …….devotion to a rotten religion A+.
      
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      March 21, 2018 5:30pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Interesting observation, Nasska.
        
        I spend a certain amount of time with youth who didn’t click how to decode written text in their primary years.
        
        Some of them have no difficulty with basic comprehension; others do.
        
        I find Kiwiblog offers many examples of how people interpret/misinterpret information. It helps me understand how some of our kids have slipped through gaps.
        
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        March 21, 2018 6:20pm
      - nasska
        
        Have you noticed how many people whose eyes start to roll when confronted by written text have little problem understanding something explained to them orally?
        
        Could it be that they need more nuances than the written word provides before they start to comprehend? Watching & hearing someone explain something includes voice inflexion, visual clues, use of the vernacular & more importantly a means to instantly query something missed or not understood.
        
        But whatever the reason if someone hasn’t learnt basic comprehension at primary school life will be a struggle.
        
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        March 21, 2018 6:45pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW , misinterpreting , basic comprehension etc ??
        
        You should talk . Now once again what you mean by ,
        
        “ How thoughtful of the left police ( left with strike through ) , caring so deeply for children under their watch.”
        
        I put it to you that you are simply suggesting that the Telford Police are biased towards “ left “assumptions and notions of proof .
        
        What else ?
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:15pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        “But whatever the reason if someone hasn’t learnt basic comprehension at primary school life will be a struggle.”
        ?
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:17pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , talking to yourself ?
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:35pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Nah, to you Dummy
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:38pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy,
        do you understand layers of meaning?
        Can you comprehend and hold 2 ideas simultaneously?
        
        I put it to you that you are simply suggesting that the Telford Police are biased towards “ left “assumptions and notions of proof .
        That wasn ‘t what I was suggesting, but now that you mention it… It does seem that the:
        Rochdale Police
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring
        The Oxford Police
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_child_sex_abuse_ring
        The Rotherham Police
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
        and the Telford Police
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sex_abuse_ring
        The Derby Police
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_child_sex_abuse_ring
        All seemed to be suffering from the same condition of failing to take action against gangs of British Pakistani men carrying out sexual abuse of vulnerable girls and young women.
        
        Now why do you think all these police authorities failed to do their duty?
        Could they all have been swept up in PC bullshit?
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:42pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW , talking to youth with your fancy Education speak has obviously not rubbed off on you at all / .
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:43pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        MW , talking to youth with your fancy Education speak has obviously not rubbed off on you at all / .
        
        Stephieboy,
        you don’t know me or what I do.
        
        So listen up…
        I don’t talk to youth….. I listen to them read.
        Get it?
        
        My fancy Education speak….
        I don’t speak with RP.
        Remember I’m the daughter of a dunny cleaner from Castlecliff. I speak white trash drawl.
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:11pm
DigNap15

@Stephie
No, but they commit a hell of a lot of it and very systemically.
Could you please tell me what sort of things all those Pakis in the UK do as a job?
They don’t all own corner shops.
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March 21, 2018 5:14pm
- stephieboy
  
  DIgNap15,
  
  “No, but they commit a hell of a lot of it and very systemically”
  
  Any more than the two whites I showed you ? Or Jimmy Saville or Rolf Harris ?
  
  Pakis, like their fellow UK whites do a variety of jobs including those who own corner shops.
  
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  March 21, 2018 5:20pm
  - Longknives
    
    Jesus Stephie- The Stats aren’t in your favour here!
    You’re beloved Muslims are freaking Sexual Predators.
    I suggest you quit while you aren’t really ahead but to avoid further humiliation…
    
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    March 21, 2018 5:28pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes but Saville or Rolf Harris did not groom the girls to sell them so that they could live off them.
    
    And please tell me where they all work. I bet 75% of them are not working!
    
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    March 21, 2018 6:52pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Dignap15 ,
      
      “And please tell me where they all work. I bet 75% of them are not working!”
      
      I guess they work where most other people work . You naturally have evidence and facts to support your 75% claim ?
      
      Some do very well like this British Pakistani scientist ,
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haroon_Ahmed
      
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      March 21, 2018 6:54pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        “Pakis, like their fellow UK whites do a variety of jobs”
        
        Putting aside your casual racism calling them “Pakis”, how about YOU post some employment statistics since you made the claim.
        Or; ‘shut your gob’
        
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        March 21, 2018 8:14pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , you are joke with your feigned , troubled concerns about so called “ casual racism “
        
        Donald Trump’s ‘racist slur’ provokes outrage
        
        http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42664173
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:19pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Ha
        You’re the joke
        No one likes you
        RACIST
        Gullible oaf telling lies too eh
        So funny
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:20pm
Ross12

Great tweet on W/O
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/03/tweet-of-the-day-96/
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March 21, 2018 5:15pm
Prince

Peters looked at deaths door on the news tonight. Grey lips, ashen face, more wrinkles than an elephants bum, struggling to maintain a sentence.
Seriously, get that man to a hospital stat.
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March 21, 2018 6:14pm
- Longknives
  
  Really? Winston getting even more crook??
  For what he did to this Country (and so many of his Loyal Voters) at the last Election I wish him the absolute worst.
  I hope it hurts like hell you Treacherous old cunt.
  
  *I’m two ticks National and have never voted Winston but have older relatives who did- We all agree we would happily take a steaming piss on his grave now…
  
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  March 21, 2018 6:20pm
  - sooty
    
    Will Whinney last till Secret Cindy goes on holiday. Laugh if they both are out. Whats in the 40 page secret memo, if that happens.
    
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    March 21, 2018 7:27pm
- RF
  
  Ditto for Ardern getting crook. She looked like she had been on the turps for a week.
  
  Lover boy should cut her a break and not be so demanding.
  
  She got shitty with our Simon today during question time and flashed her teeth at him.
  
  Someone is starting to stress out badly.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:18pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Greenpeace NZ has been denied Charity Status

Ruling just out from the Charities Registration Board.

https://www.charities.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/Greenpeace-of-New-Zealand-Incorporated-Decision.pdf
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March 21, 2018 7:04pm
- Kimbo
  
  Oh dear. How sad. What a shame. Never mind. ?
  
  So will they protest the decision? Silly me, of course they will, indeed it’s all they ever do…hence they lost their charitable status. Boom, tish! ?
  
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  March 21, 2018 7:09pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    They protested the original decision to deregister Greenpeace back in 2014.
    The Supreme Court told the Charities Registration board to reconsider.
    The Board has reconsidered and has come out with the decision because:
    1. Greenpeace indulges in illegal activities, and
    2. It’s advocacy for the environment is self-serving and is not for the benefit of the Public.
    
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    March 21, 2018 7:53pm
    - stephieboy
      
      MW , well at least they are not part of marxist takeover or communist plot .
      
      Or…?
      
      https://www.realskeptic.com/video/greenpeace-and-the-marxist-takeover/
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:26pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Excellent!
  Next on the list: Sanitarium?
  
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  March 21, 2018 7:58pm
- Swifty
  
  Love it.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:42pm
mandk

All the snowflakes and other lefties are having brain explosions trying to reconcile the idea that Saint Obama’s best mate in NZ is The Right Honourable Sir John Key.
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March 21, 2018 7:25pm
- stephieboy
  
  mandk its really quite simple. Both are forward thinking liberals and progressives .
  
  Not alt right Trumpist cabbage heads
  
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  March 21, 2018 7:55pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Wrong
    It shows that sometimes friendship can cross a political divide.
    Never happen to you though.
    You have no friends because no one likes you.
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:09pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , not my fault you are an alt right cabbage head !
      
      Gotta be in your genes !
      
      Surely !
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:31pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Square, alt right, alt right, square.
        Hah, even No Mates Mikey reckons you’re thick.
        Funny.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:34pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    *Fart* … alt right … *Sniff* … alt right … *Burp*
    
    You’ve been trolling here all day, with 35 comments on this Kiwiblog thread so far, let alone the other Kiwiblog threads, so I take it you didn’t manage to check out the St Lukes attractions?
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:23pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Nostradumus, thank you for spending your precious time counting them all up
      
      May I suggest obsessive bordering on manic behaviour on your part. ?
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:28pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Wow, that’s the pot calling the kettle black
        Stephieboy- Biggest Stalker on Kiwiblog
        Almost as bad as No Mates Mikey
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:30pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , enjoy maybe lurking around St Albans and putting up a notice or two ?
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:38pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        I wouldn’t be seen dead in your silly little Church with your medieval rituals.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:42pm
      - sooty
        
        Stephieboy, you have been on shift for 12hrs. You are going to have a breakdown trying to cover for all the others that have been sin bined. You really need to take care of your self and go careful on your keyboard. We don’t want you to ruin your mouse. Really 35 posts. Maybe ask Fraser house to get you some asistence. We are all equal opportunity down tickers here.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:44pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , not seen dead etc ?
        
        My information suggests otherwise !
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:46pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘Notice or two’
        I’ve just realised what you have said.
        Has someone left something at the Church about you?
        Hahahahahahahahaah
        That’s so funny. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving creep.
        Told you no one likes you.
        
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        March 21, 2018 9:48pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        thank you for spending your precious time counting them all up
        
        Your “thank you” expression of gratitude is unwarranted. I have a technique that allows me to count your comments automatically and which filters out references to “Stephieboy” in other people’s comments.
        
        By the way, in that time, you’ve gone from 35 comments to 46 comments. Did you manage to meet your comment KPI today?
        
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        March 21, 2018 11:01pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Opposed to backward, non thinking regressive like yourself Stephie-jealous
    
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    March 21, 2018 8:34pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Awww C-on , I’m absolutely confident that the former President is not the slightest concerned or interested in you’re bleating and feeble rants .
      
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      March 21, 2018 9:40pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        You need a new attack line Stephie-desperate
        
        You realise how badly that one reflects on yourself aye, making 40 comments a day in a forum you mock for being irrelevant… what the fuck does that make you??
        
        Try quality over quantity Stephie-confused, maybe humour as well.
        
        Oh and your post about notices at the church …
        
        Bahahahaha. Oh shit that’s gotta hurt ???
        
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        March 21, 2018 10:11pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  All the snowflakes and other lefties are having brain explosions
  
  Thats because lefties are thick. They arr so obsessed with labels and hierarchies that they can’t comprehend that basically every single “right-wing” labelled Politician is a Globalist Culutral Marxist – i.e. Cameron, Key, Trunbull, Sarkozy, Merkel etc. Even those the left consider “extremists” such as Abbot or Stephen Harper were still Globalists but of a milder variety.
  
  With the exceptions of a few outliers – those that make it to the top in the mainstream parties in Western countries are identikit clones. Its like choosing between Pepsi and Coke.
  
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  March 21, 2018 8:01pm
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD , how many Jews can you count among them apart from Sir John ?
    
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    March 21, 2018 9:29pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      You have an unhealthy obsession with Jews.
      
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      March 21, 2018 10:43pm
      - Inandout
        
        Most muzzies do.
        
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        March 22, 2018 5:15pm
- ex-golfer
  
  It has been funny watching lefties melting down over their cult hero spending time with JK.
  They’ve turned pretty quickly with many now relegating the once revered Obama to enemy-of-the-left status.
  
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  March 21, 2018 9:34pm
DigNap15

Obama is really only here to make money
Its like many politicians do
The Clintons and Tony Blair.
They just go on speaking tours around the world and make a fortune.
People pay thousands to see them and have dinner etc.

And as Andrew Dickens said on NewsTalkZB he does not promote the countries – he never mentions them or posts videos etc.

So we get nothing out of it.
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March 21, 2018 10:12pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Shane Jones get a free feed so all good cuz.
  
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  March 21, 2018 10:17pm
Shaun the Sheep

Suspect n Austin bombings has blown himself up as police moved to arrest him.
Public are urged to remain vigilant for more packages.
Let’s hope that’s over.
The stress on innocent residents and police must have been enormous.
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March 21, 2018 11:03pm
Monique Watson

Fucking New Zealand Herald. Can’t play the latest on the Austin bombing. Restrictions due to my “Geographical Location”. I’m a fuck of a lot closer to Austin than you are, Clownsters.
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March 21, 2018 11:09pm
Rachael Membery

OMG at the end of this article is a picture of the injuries caused to a nine month old baby by his father and he got slapped with a wet bus ticket.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12017200
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March 22, 2018 5:57am
- Inandout
  
  Disgusting, especially on the day of the big dinner.
  
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  March 22, 2018 5:14pm
Inandout

I didn’t realise Obama was still President, but his imported chef says he is.
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