General Debate 18 March 2018

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duggledog

Why The Coalition Will Only Complete One Term, If That.

1: Labour’s poll boost, post-Little is made of balsa. Few policy changes from the new leader, just articulation and looks. That’s an unreliable, unsteady scaffold; can collapse as quickly as it went up.

2: Labour remains internally unstable – the gays, the unionists, the academics, the Maoris, the activists. Hard to manage with charter schools, immigration etc. Haworth & Kirton are hardly helping.

3: Labour’s best MPs are of an unbelievably poor quality. As a comparison, put them up alongside the Lange and Clarke teams. No contest.

4: Labour’s coalition partners hate each other. NZF and Green voters are extremists and won’t accept kowtowing to the polar opposite. They are not easily monstered due to their respective sizes, unlike UF, MP and ACT in recent years.

5: Labour’s leader is not equipped to deal with 2, 3, and 4. Failed to win three seats in three successive elections. No real world experience in people management.Very good at PR, but not the consummate politician like H1.

6: Labour’s leader is unlikely to go to 2020. She is a classic box ticker. More likely to choose the baby she always wanted, over the job she may now not want.

7: Labour has no idea what Mr Peters will do in the PM’s absence. He has long form as a wrecker.

8: A massive opposition who have no need to fundamentally rebuild after a defeat. NZ is not in a bad place. The economy is good. Jobs everywhere. National was not ‘chucked out’.

9: Money. Everybody wants what they voted for – and they want it in this budget. Few assets to sell. Scant room to jack up an over taxed, over regulated productive sector. Borrowing toxic especially given the outrage from Robertson etc during the Key administration.

10: The media will turn on the Coalition long before the public works out that their lot will not be improved. This is key. All media companies are already barely surviving an increasingly fragmented landscape and will be ever ravenous for stories as reader / viewer/ listenership declines, plus they are already livid about Curran’s RNZ+ which only adds further strain.

11: Helen and Jacinda. How long before they fall out? Mums and daughters etc

12: The Waitawheta youth camp. Jacinda didn’t know – really? Labour politicians are the most venomous because they have the most to lose; someone will use this against her one day.
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March 18, 2018 8:01am
- Chris R
  
  I agree. I am now suspicious that Jacinda knew about the assaults before she coasted around the Pacific and that she participated in the attempted cover-up. If she is called to account for that stupid decision by persons within her own Party then she’ll not be back after the birth. The attempted cover-up suggests quite strongly that the culprit is well connected to persons within the Party otherwise he’d already have been outed and left to sink. Despite the police investigation the name will leak and if it is a relative of a Labour MP the entire Party will need to carry the can for Jacinda’s stupid decision. Is Jacinda so stupid to not realise she is sitting astride a powder-keg with a lit fuse?
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:09am
  - lifesgood
    
    She did know. She’s lying. I am surprised the sex fiend hasn’t been outed yet. Surely it must come out soon. Kids talk, everyone at the party knows who it is, they tell a friend, the friend tells a friend……..
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:22am
    - NZpatriot
      
      Strong rumour in Wellington is that the offender was a Labour Party staffer.
      
      So I imagine Jacinda Ardern knows this person, and the answer she gave that he’s not a member borders on dishonest if he was a political staffer.
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:02am
      - KiWombat
        
        We know she can be creative with the truth – there is a distinction however between a lie and not telling the truth !
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:16am
      - burt
        
        That would explain why they took the highly irregular step of not calling the police. In the post Weinstein/#metoo world who hushes up and protects a sexual predator ?
        
        ( answer: Labour )
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:19am
      - GazzaW
        
        There’s no doubt in my mind that the party apparatus is running cover for the offender. By far the best option would have been to have turned the offender over to the police and come up smelling of roses that the party will not tolerate sexual abuse under any circumstances blah blah blah. Labour doesn’t hesitate normally to throw people under the bus when it suits their purposes so why not this time? The right connections within the party maybe?
        
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        March 18, 2018 12:25pm
  - KiWombat
    
    There have been murmerings for quite a few weeks about an expose that may have caused significant damage, and this looks like the one !
    
    If one or more of her MP’s knew about it, then the boss knew about it too. The fact that she would only field questions about the Pacific mission smells to high heaven – she knew that something else was brewing but didn’t want to face it until she convened a caucus meeting to discuss the best plan of defence.
    
    Davis was also nobbled, unable to discuss any matter unless notice was given – this also reeks of a cover up.
    
    Time for somebody to requisition call records to and from a couple of cell phones I think. That will reveal the “conversations” that were going on at the time !
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:28am
    - Viking2
      
      One of the speakers was our local list MP who left her role at the WOMENS REFUGE to become that MP. She has not been put under the spotlight yet.
      Wonder what she has to say?
      
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      March 18, 2018 8:52am
      - burt
        
        Wonder what she has to say?
        
        It’s different when Labour do it!
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:22am
      - KKKKatee
        
        Yes. #metoo and all that!
        
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        March 18, 2018 5:27pm
  - Simon
    
    Yep princess should have started firing people.
    
    Labour let children be piled with alcohol and be sexually assaulted then tried to sweep it under the carpet. Fairly straight forward fire the clowns in charge.
    
    Except Princess cant fire people now because she knew early and went with the cover up.
    
    Provided no one talks, including no one is held accountable, Princess can play the incompetent card.
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:38am
    - Justitia
      
      I think you are right. The question, as with all cover-ups, becomes what did the Princess know and when did she know it? Is it that Jacinda won’t sack or discipline Kirton or anyone else associated with the scandal because she knows they know she knew about it weeks ago? The extraordinary embargo imposed on questions from the media during her Pacific tour now also makes sense as part of an effort to play for time and maintain a cover-up. Is it that Labour realise the public’s perception of Jacinda as promoted by the MSM is their only asset so they will do anything to prevent the full facts from coming out?
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:40am
      - G152
        
        We have access to the web and to the photo of all who were at the camp.
        Name them all.
        
        Just (because it was a 20 year old male) name all males there as the perp.
        After all they know who it was so none can claim innocence
        At some stage the truth will emerge.
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:48am
  - Peter
    
    “she is sitting astride a powder-keg with a lit fuse?”
    
    No, he’s gone fishing….
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:49am
- DigNap15
  
  I hope you are right!
  But in the meantime the COL will really hurt NZ with high wage rises, inflation, loss of growth, and union disruption to business.
  Let alone the friendly feral breading program.
  And the let a crim out a day policy
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:48am
- Huevon
  
  And the PM glibly thinks she can manage all this while having a kid. I dont want to wish fortune on her, but can she really cope with so much on her plate? Then there is the added pressure of rumours about her boyfriend.
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:55am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  duggledog – I fervently hope you are right.
  
  However, you are taking an analytical approach to assess the weaknesses of Labour.
  
  Any such analysis is only half of the story. You need to do the same for the other choice – National.
  
  Voters don’t just think “Labour are shite I will vote for the alternative”
  
  There is more of a comparative approach – and sadly when you put Labour up against National, it’s not so rosy for National:
  1) Simon is unappealing, the polls won’t be kind to him (tie)
  2) Nats are also unstable, they went against the prevailing view from the electorate. MPs will be punished for ignoring voters. (tie)
  3) Simon, Amy, Paula are the top three = poor quality, apart from JC there’s not much to crow about the rest either (tie)
  4) Nat’s don’t have any coalition partners (+1 Labour)
  
  I could go on, but you get the drift.
  
  All of which is bad news. If National is as unappealing as Labour, then Labour get to stay in. NZ doesn’t vote out first term governments. National need to be visibly and undeniably better in the public eye – and opposition gives precious few opportunities to do that.
  
  I am sad (mainly because National are so utterly lost in the progressive wilderness) but I think we’re stuck with the current set-up for at least 2 full terms.
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:25am
  - redeye
    
    Hasn’t this record got another side?
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:27am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Nope. I’m not tired of being right yet.
      Making Bill boss was a mistake.
      Bill not being able to win the election was true.
      Bill being rolled before 2020 was true.
      National need to return to the centre right is true
      National needing JC not Soimon is true.
      Blind blue-rinse, football supporter tribal mentality is not helping National is true.
      National are doing nothing about their support partner vacuum is true.
      Progressivism is not the way for the Nats to go is true.
      
      If you are a moderate conservative then your enmity is strange, I am a real conservative. I stand for the values National say they support (while completely ignoring them).
      
      But good luck with the “denial” flavoured KoolAid.
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:13am
      - niggly
        
        Oh good grief man, how about giving the new team some support and let’s see what happens before unleashing chicken little.
        
        I mean FFS Bridges has put your wet dream Collins at #4 – her highest ever ranking and within the inner circle. With her portfolios it will be such a pleasure watching her apply death by a thousand cuts to the idiotic and lying Twitford!
        
        So Bridges has given Collins a lot of support and is “willing to see what happens” – I sure Collins is super chuffed and will be an excellent and inspiring team player – how about you fall in line with Collin’s expectations and also lend the same support she is giving the Party and leadership now?
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:46am
      - UpandComer
        
        You’re an idiot.
        
        Simon for a start is socially conservative. He’s also economically conservative. Bill was the right pick. If it was Collins vs Ardern, anymore with an IQ above 85 would have understood National would have got 30%. You clearly know nothing about the campaign data to make the statements you make.
        
        NZFirst would have been irrelevant due to the enormous swing of women to Ardern as they considered Collins and rejected her as a mean girl vs the nice girl.
        
        You still don’t understand any of Bills intellectual output. Until you do, stop commenting.
        
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        March 18, 2018 12:04pm
  - Happychappy
    
    DP it must be good to have another member of those who choose to vote Winston in to power come back to comment after several months away.
    
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    March 18, 2018 11:18am
  - UpandComer
    
    Your political analysis is pretty shit.
    
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    March 18, 2018 11:58am
    - Kimbo
      
      But, but DifferentPerspective’s stay-on-message trolling skills are outstanding. ?
      
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      March 18, 2018 12:07pm
      - lifesgood
        
        Bill won the election for National. DP you are full of s**t. Labour was selected by the drunken dwarf, nothing more.
        
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        March 18, 2018 1:14pm
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        lifesgood – your post shows exactly what I mean when I talk about the blue rinse brigade quaffing denial Kool-Aid.
        
        How can sitting on the cross-benches in opposition be considered winning?
        
        The stupidity to think this is on a Hillary Clinton scale.
        
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        March 18, 2018 1:28pm
      - KiWombat
        
        The only winner was WeeWinnie.
        
        National defeated Labour by about 21%, with Greens coming a very distant 4th. It didn’t matter one iota who won, ore even who came second.
        
        The only race that mattered was whether NZ1 could cobble together 5% of the total vote.
        
        Why we spend umpteen millions on an election is beyond me – when after the race is over we sit and wait, and wait, and wait for the geriatric gnome to decide who will line his pockets the best !
        
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        March 18, 2018 3:15pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        @KiWombat … hahahahaha: that’s what you get for voting for MMP rather than the grown up version (STV).
        
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        March 18, 2018 4:59pm
- Peter
  
  Agreed, except for the media bit.
  
  The MSM typically trail the slowest of the slow citizens by some margin. Ability to read the public mood virtually non-existent.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:47am
- lilman
  
  I have a daughter,because Taxcinda wont go to the police this little creep is out there with my daughter.
  If she is sexually assualted then do I blame Taxcinda and labour.
  As she hasnt taken steps to safeguard my child.
  
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  March 18, 2018 5:59pm
Monique Watson

How long will it take for the lefty fuckingsteins come out of the woods today?
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March 18, 2018 8:02am
- Nostradamus
  
  Gabby and Ztev send their apologies – DPF has locked them in the Kiwiblog dungeon for 3 months!
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:07am
  - Scott Chris
    
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    Wow nice snitching Nostradamus. Now this place will be even more of an alt-right echo chamber. Wonder how long it’ll take you fucktards to make this post invisible.
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:22am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Considering it’s a stupid comment, hopefully not long
      
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      March 18, 2018 8:28am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Scott Chris:
      
      Wow nice snitching Nostradamus.
      
      Sorry old chap, but I didn’t report their comments, and had nothing to do with their bans.
      
      you fucktards
      
      Oh that reminds me:
      
      Scott Chris
      
      Hmm, well there you go. My last comment on Kiwiblog; excellent forum conducted by an enlightened if somewhat misguided David Farrar. Thank you and fuck you all respectively. Do your best.
      
      November 17, 2016 10:32pm
      
      Have you come back to play with Starboard?
      
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      March 18, 2018 8:28am
      - mikenmild
        
        Some return by popular demand.
        
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        March 18, 2018 8:34am
      - holysheet
        
        Nah he’s the leftie trolls last resort. Must be scraping the bottom of the toxic barrel to get him back here.
        
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        March 18, 2018 8:36am
      - Simon
        
        Leftards come to KB for the truth
        
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        March 18, 2018 8:42am
      - stephieboy
        
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        simon ,
        
        Rabid Rightards obviously the same ,
        
        Clinton body count
        Islamaphobia ( Muslim bashing )
        Climate denial ( Flat eartherism )
        Jacinda paranoia and hysteria
        Trumpmania
        Gun control deregulation US style
        
        Conspiracies ,Conspiracies,Conspiracies
        
        etc, etc, etc
        
        Conspiracies ,Conspiracies,Conspiracies
        
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        March 18, 2018 8:53am
      - Scott Chris
        
        I changed my mind, but I’m still in the angry phase of the trauma that afflicted us all in November 2016. I just can’t believe the collective insanity and blindness and hypocrisy.
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:13am
      - Scott Chris
        
        mikenmild
        Some return by popular demand.
        
        Thumb up 6 Thumb down 8 REPORTMARCH 18, 2018 8:34AM
        
        Well I couldn’t have you being the most likeable and popular chap here could I?
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:19am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        I’m wondering how long before Andrew McCabe has one of those unfortunate accidents that keep on befalling Clinton operatives.
        
        Not that his wife needs the money after the half a mill from the Clinton bagman, I hope she really pumps up his life insurance.
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:16am
    - Chris R
      
      Scott Chris:Your stupid remark assures all of us that you are in truth already beyond invisible: How about non-existent? Ineffectual? Pointless? Take your pick.
      
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      March 18, 2018 8:35am
    - Viking2
      
      Not long. If you come here casting aspersions on the rest of us you get what you deserve. Coventry for a while.
      
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      March 18, 2018 8:54am
  - softail 1450
    
    nostradamus, i think youll probably find that gabby is in detox to be followed by 10 weeks of intense alcohol abstinence training.
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:07am
- Paulus
  
  Looks like the Unions are going to re exert their position with the Labour Party.
  When the polls go southward, very shortly, for the Labour Party the Union hierarchy will, and are currently if understood to be very annoyed at the way they are now at last being presented to the country as incompetents.
  Remember they did not appoint Cindy as their leader – Helen Clark and Grant Robertson knew and saw the opportunity which was a gap allowable under the Union’s rules, and they took it.
  Whilst the so called media fawned over her she lied by implication as to the fact that she was pregnant.
  Besides he very left wing political ends she as a more important function as a mother.
  If last week was bad watch the next one and the ones after that.
  She was not elected – she was appointed by a geriatric dwarf.
  No wonder Andy is chipper along with his new Lenin beard – the ball is revolving to his comeback in the not too distant future when the Unions can take real charge once again.
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:33am
  - mikenmild
    
    “Oh shit,” said Andrew Little, “Paulus has rumbled my Leninist plans. I should never have grown that beard.”
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:38am
  - KiWombat
    
    There is a subtle difference between telling a lie and not telling the truth.
    
    Cindy is guilty of both !
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:44am
    - stephieboy
      
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      KWombat , like the thousand lies of the US President ?
      
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      March 18, 2018 8:57am
      - Harkman
        
        Or Hilary Clinton.
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:19am
      - holysheet
        
        Hillary Clinton isn’t taking the loss very well. So Donald phoned her and said, Cheer up! At least you don’t have to work at the same desk that Monica spent so much time under.
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:23am
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy, even on a sunday septic has one hand on his pc keyboard and they other around his flaccid
        penis ,all the while dreaming of donald trump in some totally weird sexual fantasy that septic is obsessed with,FFS.
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:15am
      - burt
        
        That would be the US president that our lefties say must resign because he tells lies – but it’s different when Labour do it.
        
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        March 18, 2018 11:07am
    - mikenmild
      
      If this is still about ~~Lenin’s~~ Luittle’s beard, then don’t you mean stubble difference?
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:00am
      - waikatogirl
        
        You’re on fire this morning mm ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:03am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    They don’t seem to be doing too badly so far.
    
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    March 18, 2018 2:06pm
igm

Fairfax Filth are once again attempting to mutilate Exclusive Brethren in a continuing barrage of anti-Christian discrimination. Notice they were quiet when a drunken Muslim crashed into a taxi killing its innocent hard-working driver. They have also attempted to defuse Crockery’s lying over the Labour sex/political grooming camp debacle. Well Fairfax, it will not go away!
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March 18, 2018 8:08am
- MCos
  
  That’s an bizarre Exclusive Brethren story and entirely believable.
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:53am
- mikenmild
  
  What form did this alleged mutilation take? Or are you straining to find an appropriate metaphor for your deep resentment of a free press?
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:53am
- redeye
  
  They do really like a drink. I have a friend that works at the local supermarket, in an area populated by a lot of brethren, and according to her their trollies are always well laden with top shelf.
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:29am
  - igm
    
    The point being, Fairfax have done a lot of research and substantiating in this case, but why not the same for the drunken Muslim who killed an innocent hard-working taxi driver? Was it because he came from a wealthy UAE family and donations were made to certain quarters that have domination over editorial policy in MSM.
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:35am
  - flipper
    
    Super market?
    Top shelf ?
    You mean $30-$40 per bottle of wine vis $7.50 ???
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:55am
  - Callum
    
    Supermarkets don’t sell top shelf.
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:58am
    - mikenmild
      
      flipper is too old to have been able to get to the supermarket in the era in which they have been permitted to sell alcohol.
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:02am
      - burt
        
        Sell alcohol – why sell it when you can give it away freely to underage drinkers and then protect a sex pest when they get violated !
        
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        March 18, 2018 11:44am
      - Happychappy
        
        But even you know MM that the term Top Shelf applies is attributed to Spirits and Liqueurs.
        
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        March 18, 2018 11:47am
    - david
      
      Pak-n-Save is about the only place you can find a bottle of Penfolds Grange in a hurry if you want one.
      
      If that isn’t top shelf, I don’t know what is.
      
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      March 20, 2018 1:18am
  - NZpatriot
    
    Red eye. Supermarkets don’t sell “top shelf” (as in spirits and liqueurs), so that allegation is impossible by definition.
    
    Note I’m not denying the Exclusive Brethren drink. I read the excellent book Behind Closed Doors by former member Ngaire Thomas which affirms that.
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:06am
- Tarquin North
  
  I know the guy who was driving that Ute and most of the passengers. I hate to admit it, but the Fairfax article is probably accurate. Brethren are well known for driving like maniacs after a few drinks. Try driving between Dargaville and Paparoa late afternoon – I didn’t realise VS vans could go so fast! This was a tragic accident and a rare insight into how good the brethren are at closing ranks and protecting their own. They are a cult not a religion. The only thing they worship is money.
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:30am
  - softail 1450
    
    T N , and liquor by the sounds of it.
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:25am
    - Tarquin North
      
      I think Nolas in Dargaville are the biggest top shelf sellers in Northlake. As an aside, what I was saying about the brethren and money earlier doesn’t mean they’re bad people. They look after their elderly, they run their own schools, you never here of them getting in trouble and they never take welfare. I can even remember when they wouldnt have a fax machine on their premises. They used to have it at someone elses business up the road and pay them a fee for receiving their faxes. That way when the devil or cheap advertising popped out only a non beiever got fried – very christian of them. I don’t think any religion should be tax exempt.
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:46am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I did wonder what the point of that article was.
  People do all sorts of weird things when they’ve had an accident. Its something most of us don’t encounter every day.
  
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  March 18, 2018 1:19pm
Colville

There will be some sore Irish heads today .. And Eddie Jones too… He would have drowned his sorrows 🙂

24-15 the win and the Grand Slam to Ireland.
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March 18, 2018 8:08am
- igm
  
  I love it . . . Eddy will be really vile!
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:10am
  - DigNap15
    
    He really has no class at all.
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:42am
- mandk
  
  England only the fifth best team in the 6 Nations!
  
  And to think that only last year they fancied themselves in a head-to-head vs the All Blacks to see who was best in the world.
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:52am
  - mikenmild
    
    John Reason (!) already claimed yesterday (?) that Ireland and England would be two tough for the All Blacks to beat on successive weekends.
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:55am
    - Harkman
      
      I always thought his last name was a sarcastic stage name.
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:00am
      - mikenmild
        
        His Dad was the same. Pompously responded during the ’81 tour to a headline of ‘An appeal to reason’.
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:03am
      - Kimbo
        
        He was always provocative, and Kiwis of the era used to get pissed off with him, especially when he rightly criticised our dirty play and inadequate scrummaging techniques in the 1970s. But I liked John Reason, and he would always argue his case well, honestly and fearlessly. Including why the rugby community should have maintained contact with apartheid era South Africa.
        
        Interestingly, Reason also had a very good relationship with, and did much to disseminate the insights of the the great Llanelli and 1971 Lions coach, Carwyn James, who was one of the few in the British rugby community at the time who took a public anti-apartheid stance (London Welsh, Welsh and Lions flanker John Taylor was maybe the only other. Also interestingly, Taylor was never selected for the Barbarians, as he was deemed to be a “communist” 🙂 ).
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:12am
    - Kimbo
      
      John Reason? Been dead a few years. I think you mean Mark.
      
      I wouldn’t write the English off for All Blacks end of year tour, nor the 2019 World Cup. Instead, their results are more likely an indication that, Italy aside, the Six Nations is now, for the first time since the 1970s, a top quality and very even competition. On any given day any of the four home unions and France can beat the other. Which is in marked contrast to the snooze fest that our annual trouncing of the Springboks, Wallabies and Pumas has degenerated into since 2016.
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:04am
Duxton

Good morning all. Over the past day or two, I have noticed a few comments about Emirates -usually in conjunction with comments about dogs, porches and air hostesses?

Have I missed something? What’s going on?
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March 18, 2018 8:09am
- mandk
  
  I asked the same question yesterday.
  
  Apparently, the air hostess thing relates to the partner of a very prominent MP, who has a bit of a reputation for being a hard dog to keep on the porch.
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:18am
  - lifesgood
    
    Something else the labour party will have to work hard at suppressing.
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:24am
  - waikatogirl
    
    According to reports the letters MP should be swapped around.
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:28am
  - Duxton
    
    Thanks all. I guessed it might be something like that.
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:34am
    - skyblue
      
      Are we discussing Gaylord?
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:46am
      - niggly
        
        https://mobile.twitter.com/GeoffsNewsofNZ/status/974090970143719424
        
        And in other news today (other friends of Jacinda are also going to let her down):
        https://mobile.twitter.com/GeoffsNewsofNZ/status/975115624329355264
        
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        March 18, 2018 11:04am
Nostradamus

♫How deep is your love?♬

Sacked Border Force boss Roman Quaedvlieg sent 14,000 texts to girlfriend he helped get a job

Sacked Border Force Commissioner Roman Quaedvlieg has defended his use of text messages amid claims he sent 14,000 to his girlfriend in a year. … The amount of text messages roughly works out to 38 a day, or three every two hours for a year. … As one of Australia’s highest-paid public servants, he earned more than $500,000 on leave while the PM&C and the Commission for Law Enforcement Integrity investigated his conduct.
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March 18, 2018 8:11am
JibberJabber

The Soper- HdPA good cop bad cop tag team continues,
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12013908

Of course, to be fair, Heather might just be doing her job.
Unlike the sycophantic Bazza.
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March 18, 2018 8:30am
- tf78
  
  Maybe Heather gets tired of Barry’s fawning over Crockery.
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:51am
- niggly
  
  Hmm Heather DPA is onto something, which upon reflection actually makes a lot of sense (although if H2 is in the mix – I mean why wouldn’t she – then Haworth becomes a trusted “H” himself & part of the H1/H2 inner circle – H3 in fact)!
  
  Labour still controlled by the H1/H2 cabal then with their new “H3” also in their pockets (it was also noticeable that H3 was largely “absent” media wise during this latest debacle – same modus operandi – even the media were noting Haworth’s absence themselves).
  
  Time for media to shine some light on them, lurking in the shadows as usual.
  
  (As a side issue, remember when Jacindamania first reared its head and Haworth announcing out-of-nowhere that thousands of dollars had been pledged to support the new leader, just like that, in an instant? Sooo another H1/H2/H3 secret campaign that had been underway and voila here it all is, just like that, amazing fawn the unquestioning media at the time)!
  
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  March 18, 2018 11:18am
Happychappy

And still we hear no comments from Winston about his back flip on the Russia trade deal especially after making irresponsible statements claiming Russia was not responsible for shooting down the Malaysian Aircraft that one NZ’er and sevèral Australians were killed. Peters also maintained their was also no proof of Russia being involved which has been rubbished by the Australian Labor Party.
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March 18, 2018 8:38am
- waikatogirl
  
  During the Chatham Island speech, Peters muttered something about Russia couldn’t be blamed as they are a Communist country. His thought process petered out and he changed tack as where else could he take that statement?
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:52am
  - mikenmild
    
    Perhaps he is having trouble catching up with the news that the Russia run by kleptocrats is pretty much as dangerous as the Russia run by communists.
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:01am
    - sooty
      
      Maybe he should put his finger on the words as he gives his speech, then he would not lose his place and go roaming all over the place trying to make sense. He’s becoming a bit incoherent. What’s he going to be like when secret Cindy shuffles off in a couple of weeks. As soon as she sorts out the sex camp, she’s out of here.
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:18am
    - Happychappy
      
      Maybe he would like to achieve just a little of what the Russian President has taken.
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:39am
  - RF
    
    Peters is a tired old fool who is long overdue to be retired from public engagements.
    
    Every time he speaks I can hear the commie chick sucking in her breath waiting for the next clanger from him.
    
    He is starting to dribble when he mumbles now.
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:44am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Petered out ;). If only!!!
    
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    March 18, 2018 1:11pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Rachael, Thanks for noticing my play on words. ?
      
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      March 18, 2018 2:09pm
holysheet

Three boys walk through the woods and suddenly hear cries for help. They follow the sound to the lake and see the drunken dwarf drowning. The boys jump into the water and drag him to shore. Winston asks the boys how he can repay them. The first boy says, “I want a boat.” The second boy says, “I want a truck.” The third boy says, “I want a nice tombstone.” Winston asks, “Why is that?” The boy says, “Because when my dad finds out I helped save you, he’s going to kill me.”
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March 18, 2018 8:39am
Chuck Bird

What do readers think of our future King and Queen?

Prince Charles’ remarkable travel demands revealed

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12014916
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March 18, 2018 8:41am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  He cares about the environment and climate change
  https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/301516/climate-change-a-ladybird-expert-book/
  
  It’s just a pity all you menials don’t.
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:56am
  - stephieboy
    
    MW ,
    
    These Nobel Laureates do !
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainau_Declaration
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:58am
- JibberJabber
  
  DGAF
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:58am
  - sooty
    
    DILLIGAF.
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:19am
- waikatogirl
  
  Charlie is as shallow and self-absorbed as his great-uncle Edward the 7th.
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:29am
  - RalphT
    
    Edward the eighth. Edward VII was his great great grandfather
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:23am
    - waikatogirl
      
      You are right RalphT. Edward the VII wouldn’t have put up with such fripperies. His son, on the other hand, was a total self-serving numpty. Gave up the throne and ran off with that “awful divorcee” but still expected to be supported in an extravagant lifestyle by the English throne. Must run in the genes as it has shown through again in Charlie.
      
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      March 18, 2018 12:04pm
      - Kimbo
        
        No, you are still confusing your monarchs. George V (reigned 1910 to 1936), who was a devoted family man was the father of Edward VIII (known to the family as David, reigned in 1936) and George VI (family name was Albert, king from 1936 to 1952).
        
        George V’s father was Edward VII (known as Bertie, king from 1901 to 1910), and as per my post below, he was a serial adulterer and bon vivant. Edward VII/Bertie’s mother, Queen Victoria deliberately kept him away from state business when he was Prince of Wales as she considered him unreliable.
        
        But yes, you nailed some of Edward VIII’s character flaws. Nazi sympathiser, as well. So you are still on the radar for an invite to Kimbo’s kick arse pub quiz team. ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 12:19pm
  - Kimbo
    
    As per RalphT, Yes, although Edward VII was a party boy too! But Bertie, in between servicing a bevy of Parisian prostitutes, did help broker the Entente Cordiale with France that foiled his nephew, the Kaiser ?. And he was a popular king, despite a scandalous gambling habit that saw him, as Prince of Wales, called upon to testify in a defamation case.
    
    Interesting story about Charles, including “why now?” It’s been a while since we’ve seen an anti-Windsors story. Was a Rupert Murdoch speciality in the 1990s. Makes you wonder if they are angling for Charles to step aside when the time comes to succeed to the throne. Archbishop of Canterbury Cosmo Lang was instrumental in getting rid of Edward VIII. Makes you wonder if someone in the political establishment is lining up the current Prince of Wales for the same sort of exit.
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:31am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  If that conceited twat gets on the throne the monarchy is over.
  The only reason to hang on to them is they are a multi-million pound tourist income stream for UK.
  
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  March 18, 2018 1:39pm
DigNap15

We need a few leftie commenters on this blog to give a little balance.

Its the drunken m mindless drivel I don’t like. Just pages of it sometimes that takes a while to scan through
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March 18, 2018 8:44am
- Happychappy
  
  Have you been looking back on some of your own posts. We all get carried away at times and post crap that offends others but I am sure all blogs have it.
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:08am
DigNap15

I heard that some COL pollies are off to Europe to see how they have reduced their prison population.

They will probably be amazed to find out that in Europe they don’t have two indigenous races committing three quarters of the violent crime.
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March 18, 2018 8:50am
- holysheet
  
  no they just have one religion causing 90% of it.
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:52am
  - igm
    
    holysheet: You will have offended camel shagger and rug pilot. Wait for the tirade.
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:00am
    - holysheet
      
      That’s the plan, but he is a goat shagger. Get it right.
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:01am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        He may be short in which case a goat is ideal.
        
        A camel being somewhat taller will require standing precariously on a small box to complete the act. The box may become unstable during the ‘action’, those bastards get the hump in more ways than one and are likely to kick!
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:20am
      - skyblue
        
        Are we discussing Gaylord?
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:48am
      - VicParking
        
        Wrong Holy, Stephie treats his goats with love and concern. Wears a condom every since he gave them the clap and tests the male one for AID every month. ??
        
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        March 18, 2018 12:11pm
    - G152
      
      A humpty numpty ?
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:56am
- fernglas
  
  Two indigenous races? Unless the Moriori or patupaiarehe have made a comeback I thought we only had one.
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:13am
- RF
  
  Have you noticed the members of the COL are swanning off overseas on junkets. I figure whilst grants piggy bank is still flush with our cash they are spending up large as it will soon be gone.
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:55am
  - Longknives
    
    They certainly seem to be going crazy on the spending- No doubt a dozen or so of them will fly off to Europe Business Class..
    Speaks volumes about what this ‘Socialist’ Government thinks of it’s workers/taxpayers.
    
    They are quite simply the most disgustingly corrupt Government we have ever had..
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:06am
    - Paulus
      
      Will these Labour MPs fly Emirates and have Diplomatic Passports ?
      
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      March 18, 2018 11:32am
      - KiWombat
        
        Look at who you might meet at the check-in counter – –
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ZurrICWx4
        
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        March 18, 2018 11:42am
      - sooty
        
        I loved Jacinda in that ad. I knew she did magazine shoots.
        
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        March 18, 2018 12:37pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Haven’t seen anything about a conviction yet.
        
        He’ll probably just get an ankle bracelet when it comes up !
        
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        March 18, 2018 3:24pm
Nostradamus

On Friday we learned that Ron Mark has been using NZDF helicopters and planes as a personal taxi service (which NZ taxpayers pay for).

I’ve found an alternative means of transport for Ron: Life on board a crowded Collins-class submarine 100 metres below the surface

“The real, true capability of a submarine is that I don’t have to announce (my) arrival in any place” says Commander Richard Lindsey, the Commanding Officer of HMAS Waller, one of the Collins-class fleet.

And there’s another benefit for NZ taxpayers:

Submariners can typically spend months away at sea, including long periods below the ocean surface without any natural light.
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March 18, 2018 8:57am
sooty

It surprises me that photos of secret Cindy have not appeared of her at that Labour camps. With her attraction to youth, it would have been like flies to honey, she would have been there in the recent years. They did not suddenly this year take a turn for the worst.
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March 18, 2018 9:03am
- rangitoto
  
  I saw a photo of the whole group of attendees and she was in that.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:00am
  - KiWombat
    
    One of her projectile vomiting would be gold !
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:28am
- RF
  
  I suspect there were instructions…. “please place all your cell phones in this bag for safe keeping.. ”
  
  That solves the problem if selfies were taken with the commie chick.
  
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  March 18, 2018 1:42pm
Viking2

While a number of different Crown entities have gone against the advice of the SSC over pay, only ACC and NZ Super, the nation’s largest fund managers, have done so repeatedly in recent years.

ACC, which manages New Zealand’s no-fault accidental injury scheme, was managing around $36 billion in assets in mid-2017.

At the end of January, NZ Super Fund managed just over $39b, boosted slightly by the recent resumption of Government contributions.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/102289123/acc-chairwoman-dame-paula-rebstock-quiet-on-ceo-pay-row

So our two biggest organizations by value need Union people to tell them what to pay the CEO’s.

Envy?
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March 18, 2018 9:05am
Huevon

Jacinta is at her disassembling best on Q&A this morning, explaining how she squares the circle of her “principled” foreign policy with her Coalition’s commitment to an FTA with Putin’s heinous regime.

The Pacific junket has left her rather sunkissed. Clarke might be feeling pangs of regret.
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March 18, 2018 9:11am
- Harkman
  
  She is trying to sound intelligent, but she ain’t fooling anyone.
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:17am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Jacinda Ardern on 22 July 2017:
    
    Lisa Owen: You’ve made it clear that you’re not keen to be Prime Minister; it’s not on your radar. How likely do you think it is that you’re going to be deputy prime minister?
    
    Jacinda Ardern: Do you know, for me, if we’re in the position where we’re negotiating those positions, then that’s where I want us to be.
    
    Lisa Owen: Come on, how likely? How likely is it?
    
    Jacinda Ardern: My relative position actually doesn’t matter to me. If we’re in government, that matters to me.
    
    Lisa Owen: Is the reason—?
    
    Jacinda Ardern: So if I’m not deputy prime minister, but I’m a minister, that is fantastic. That means that we’ve won, and we’ve got a progressive government.
    
    Lisa Owen: So you’re prepared to give up the opportunity of that role if one of the people you’re in coalition with—?
    
    Jacinda Ardern: Yeah, because, as I’ve said, it’s never been about me. If we are in a position to be in government, that’s what I want. I don’t care about my relative status in that government.
    …
    Lisa Owen: Just before we go, if something should happen, as Winston Peters suggests, and your polling goes down and your leader is out, if it is a decision between stepping up for your party or not, will you do that?
    
    Jacinda Ardern: Andrew Little is taking us to the election.
    
    Lisa Owen: What about after the election?
    
    Jacinda Ardern: Andrew Little is taking us to the election for victory. There’s no Plan B.
    
    How things have changed!
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:26am
    - MCos
      
      They all say that if they want to keep their job (except in Australia)
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:35am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Crickey. If this not an example of major obsfucation by the PM, then I don’t know what is!
      
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      March 18, 2018 7:27pm
- kevn
  
  @Heuvon… Might be the Mummy/preggy hormones putting her in a calm space?
  That’s what happens so I’m told by an actual mother, natures de-stressing remedy.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:24am
Harkman

Over the last century or two there have been some really smart people Werner Heisenberg, Isambard Kingdom Brunel, John von Neumann,
Nikola Tesla, Erwin Schrödinger, Claude Shannon, Niels Bohr, Richard Feynman. Our current Prime Minister is………… not one of them.

“I don’t discuss intelligence” No sh*t, you don’t have any.
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March 18, 2018 9:16am
- sooty
  
  Harkman you win the post of the day with the last line. In my opinion.
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:22am
- MCos
  
  You old name dropper you!
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:27am
Daphne Whitethigh

‘Let me be absolutely clear’: she is an utter embarrassment.
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March 18, 2018 9:34am
- Inandout
  
  And Grant says ‘Let me be absolutely queer’.
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:43am
  - Daphne Whitethigh
    
    Well, that turned irrevelevantly homophobic pretty quickly.
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:54am
    - Harkman
      
      Hi Gabby or one of the ztev gang.
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:00am
    - skyblue
      
      He is a sodomist so what’s the issue?
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:05am
      - sooty
        
        Reminds me of the old cartoons of a very large woman an a very small man. Robbo and Alf, to a tee.
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:35am
      - VicParking
        
        He’s idiot enough without bringing his private life to the fore.
        
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        March 18, 2018 12:17pm
    - Inandout
      
      He lifts shirt tails, and would probably be the first to admit.
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:42am
    - stigie
      
      We try and not get too offended around here Daphne..?
      
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      March 18, 2018 11:16am
      - Kimbo
        
        Unless it is the eye rolling and hands on hips teapot impressions about the latest opining from Lizzie Marvelley, Anika Moa, Alison Mau, Barely Sober, Peter Dunne’s Northern Irish former Sun journalist girl friend, Red Radio, the NZ Horrid, Liebour, the Watermelons, the drunken dwarf, the Commie Chick, Vichy National/Labour lite… ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 11:22am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Yeah, but they deserve derision Kimbo. ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 12:07pm
      - Happychappy
        
        stigie you are going to have to encourage dad4u back as the Winston First voters are all starting to reappear, you might have noticed another one returned this morning after several month’s of voluntary absenteeism.
        
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        March 18, 2018 1:14pm
      - stigie
        
        I have tried Happychappy, trust me i have tried but ole Dad won’t be able to put suitable words together why he voted Winston without him calling myself and everyone else on here Aids Infested Creeps and throwing himself overboard to get to strike 7 !~
        
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        March 18, 2018 1:32pm
KKKKatee

Well, it’s true. Anika Moa will be joining Seven Sharp. I alluded to that in a post last week. An Instagram post caught my eye. It had Anika Moa dressed up as a baby drinking a bottle. Clark Gayford was being interviewed by her. And this sort of shit is about to hit the screens and we’re supposed to think it’s bloody hilarious? Just as well I don’t/can’t watch the tedious drivel and the addition of the ‘muff diving rug muncher’ certainly doesn’t tempt me at all. What the he’ll are the producers at Seven Sharp thinking? The other two are bad enough, but this hard-core dyke takes the cake. She’s absolutely uncouth in every way.
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March 18, 2018 9:53am
- Harkman
  
  Remember Anika Moa, “I don’t like white people.”
  
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  March 18, 2018 9:59am
  - KKKKatee
    
    She’s more ‘white’ than brown. She’s absolutely crude and makes no apology for being so.
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:23am
    - lifesgood
      
      Repulsive individual. Totally lacking in any sort of dignity or morals. My life is infinitely better since I stopped watching the news and 7 Sharp. Why would any sane person waste their time on it.
      
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      March 18, 2018 1:27pm
      - KKKKatee
        
        She doesn’t like “white people” but is “married”’to a very white woman with ginger hair. They have a ginger haired, blue-eyed son. Sperm donor of course. And she has twin boys with her previous “wife”. Moa, herself, hasn’t actually had the kids. Her “wives” have taken on that task. My bet is that she’ll get bored with wife #2 and motherhood and go hunting fur fresh meat. Her mother is also “white”. Moa is full of shit and shame on Seven Sharp – the infiltration from the left on this show is now complete.
        
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        March 18, 2018 7:58pm
  - kevn
    
    @Hark… Classic maori default position.
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:28am
- mikenmild
  
  Tell me what you think is a better show at 7pm.
  
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  March 18, 2018 11:25am
  - lofty
    
    Cops!
    Any food show!
    Discovery!
    Turbo!
    Any real estate show!
    
    That’s enough to go on with I reckon
    
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    March 18, 2018 11:56am
  - VicParking
    
    Big Bang on plus 1
    
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    March 18, 2018 12:19pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Off-button
    
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    March 18, 2018 1:42pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Anything I have recorded on MySky, and haven’t got round to watching yet. Or Netflix.
    
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    March 18, 2018 3:41pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Won’t affect me Kkkkatee, 7pm the channel gets changed.
  
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  March 18, 2018 12:15pm
Manolo

UK madness:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/13/pc-criticised-warning-feminine-care-supermarket-signs-sexist

An overly PC Pc has faced a backlash after warning that “feminine care” supermarket signs are sexist.

Sergeant Peter Allan, Sussex Police’s hate-crime officer, became embroiled in a Twitter storm after advising Tesco and Sainsbury’s to swap feminine-specific signs for alternatives such as ‘personal hygiene’ and ‘personal care’.
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March 18, 2018 9:57am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s perfectly ok for you chaps to use tampons and sanitary pads.
  
  Tampons come in handy if your Gout is playing up..
  (you can freeze the little bullets and apply to swollen joint, or plce them between your twinkies).
  
  Sanitary pads are a discrete (and cheaper) form of incontinence pad, if you are a dribbler.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:13am
  - holysheet
    
    Do they heat well in a microwave maggie?
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:28am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      We didn’t have a microwave up in the mountains when my inventive streak came into play.
      
      Perhaps you could investigate for us.
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:39am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @holysheet
      
      Seems they do heat well in a microwave when splashed with a little water.
      -Trade secret of food photographers.
      https://petapixel.com/2013/09/20/want-create-steam-food-shoot-try-microwaving-tampon/
      
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      March 18, 2018 5:13pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    They apparently sell quite well along the cycle trails too, to put distance between the rider and their seat ;).
    
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    March 18, 2018 1:00pm
Manolo

The hounded hound:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-lawyer-its-time-to-fire-robert-mueller
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March 18, 2018 10:00am
Catons

Peters wants a trade deal with Russia so he has something tangible to give to voters. So he goes soft on the use of chemical weapons in a sovereign country. This will not last and Peters will have egg on his face.
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March 18, 2018 10:06am
- sooty
  
  More Ladas and Belerus tactors coming folks.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:38am
graham

Wow

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/102366374/green-party-coleader-james-shaw-has-done-a-deal-with-national

Green Party co-leader James Shaw is handing the party’s questions in the House to the Opposition.

It’s a deal that has been struck between the Greens and National because the Greens are tired of the “patsy” questions they can ask each other during Question Time.

and…

The Greens’ strategy gives the Opposition more questions and a greater opportunity to hold the Government to account – something Shaw said had received mixed feelings amongst Labour and NZ First.

The Greens are a supply and confidence partner for the Government.

Shaw says it’s a “point of principle” and about holding the Government to account.

“The Green Party has long advocated the importance of Parliament having the powers to hold the Government of the day to account. Question Time is a key avenue for the opposition to interrogate the Government, so this move is a small step we can take to live up to the values we stated in opposition now that we are part of the Government,” said Shaw.

Is this a round-about way of saying the Greens are already disillusioned with Labour, after just a few months in Government, but also want to protect their own positions by not being seen to be openly hostile to Labour?
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March 18, 2018 10:06am
- Keeping Stock
  
  The term “rats abandoning the sinking ship” comes to mind. Will the coalition survive 2018?
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:11am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    No. (thankfully)
    
    This is an encouraging sign from the Greens, maybe all the dead rats they have been sucking on have lead to the growth of a backbone.
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:30am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      We’ll see soon enough, when the Waka Jumping Bill comes back to the House. If the Greens really have grown a backbone, they will vote Peters’s vindictive Bill down.
      
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      March 18, 2018 11:30am
  - Mobile Michael
    
    Are the Greens signalling that they are not going to support the waka jumping legislation?
    
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    March 18, 2018 3:48pm
    - Tricati
      
      I hope so – Winston will be apoplectic
      
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      March 18, 2018 5:11pm
- Daphne Whitethigh
  
  Beware of Greens bearing gifts…
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:15am
- holysheet
  
  I think it’s a more deeper problem the greens have.
  With most of the green support coming from the naive latte swilling females around the likes of Ponsonby, they have been told by their better halves to get the greens into a position to support the Nats next time around. With the greens, in the past being seen as left of liabour, these silly bints have seen that their votes are wasted on the present green party.
  If a more moderate co-leader is voted in next month, instead of the toxic murrri hopeful, then we may see a more moderate greens coming through.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:25am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    “naive latte swilling females”
    “told by their better halves”
    
    Hilary, we weren’t expecting you here so soon.
    Nice to see you’ve opened your mouth to change feet.
    
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    March 18, 2018 12:24pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  James Shaw is thinking strategically.
  I’m vaguely impressed.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:42am
- Kimbo
  
  Well done the Greens. Deserved bouquet for doing something that, as with the tenure of Lockwood Smith as Speaker of the House, puts the good of the institution of Parliament ahead of partisan tribal politics. Still can’t envisage ever voting for you, but on this matter at least, you are walking your talk.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:45am
  - Happychappy
    
    Kimbo I did a Valued Opinion Survey on friday that was gathing imformation for the Greens and it started off asking for the names of the Leaders of the main Political Parties but asked specifically for the Male Leader of the Greens.after going though the Questions the last three questions asked, how James was doing as Leader, what policy you disagree with and if you were to vote For him what would he have to do. Then finishing off they asked what advise would give the Greens to get people to vote for them. So this maybe is the start of the Greens going in a different direction.
    
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    March 18, 2018 11:36am
    - Kimbo
      
      Could very well be. And also gathering polling data that those supporting the co-leadership candidacy of Julie Ann Genter will use as ammunition. I’d suggest that, by polling mainstream voters, they will get answers that would confirm the concerns and rhetoric of Marama Davidson scares the shit out of Middle NZ, even the urban luvvies who consider voting Green.
      
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      March 18, 2018 11:45am
      - Happychappy
        
        I actually answered one of the questions saying their founders would be rolling in their graves with the Greens supporting the Winston First Waka jumping Bill.
        
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        March 18, 2018 11:54am
      - Kimbo
        
        A genuine well done. It may be a small thing, but you did something tangible to try and protect an important and long standing Westminster constitutional safeguard. They may still vote against it. I think they would be mad if they didn’t. As you rightly suggest, they compromise their brand, and gain nothing in return. Just as NZ First voted against Chloe Swarbrick’s dope decriminalisation bill, the Greens owe NZ First nothing. And sending the message they are no longer prepared to be poodles improves the Greens leverage for the post 2020 election coalition negotiations.
        
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        March 18, 2018 11:58am
- niggly
  
  “I guess when Jacinda assured the Greens she had lots of new ideas, they didn’t realise she was talking about the gossip magazine.”
  
  That fabulous quote came from a Stuff commentator in that articles’ comments section!
  
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  March 18, 2018 11:54am
- Ross12
  
  So are the Greens literally handing over their allocation of questions with “no strings attached” or are they doing it so National can ask questions, which the Greens would like answered, on the Greens behalf?
  
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  March 18, 2018 12:26pm
  - Viking2
    
    the second and that’s OK. They are stuck with Liarbor for the mo0ment but I guess they don’t see any long term marriage prospect in that union.
    
    Shaw was very clear that it was about the principle of open Govt. that they had before the election. A tiny step but a good one and soon it might even apply to Councils.
    Where’s Penny?
    
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    March 18, 2018 1:07pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    The Greens are reserving the right to retain the occasional question to their own Ministers, but by and large it looks as though they want Labour and Winston First held to account.
    
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    March 18, 2018 1:20pm
    - Ross12
      
      So it looks like Winston, probably, has had them on a very short leash.
      
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      March 18, 2018 1:27pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Kudos to the greens for contributing to a stronger democratic process, though they should be able to come up with properly challenging questions themselves
  
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  March 18, 2018 12:35pm
Dave Mann

Fuck you Bridges and fuck you National.

You pathetic bastards will never again get my vote.

I’d rather stick hot poker up my bum than vote for a party that thinks a Value Capture Tax has ‘merit’.

You people make me sick. My wife and I have worked our arses off for years to buy our house and now that we have finally paid it off you cunts want to tax us for the unrealized value in our own our own home.

What’s happening to this country?
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March 18, 2018 10:12am
- Manolo
  
  Labour lite has lost the plot! National’s shift to the left is gaining speed.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:17am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Yes Manolo…. and by the sound if it, they aren’t only trying to include people’s homes. They want their investments, their shares, their business assets and any other property which is deemed to have ‘value’.
    
    I simply cannot believe what this pack of crypto communists have descended to!
    
    What’s the point of living here and trying to achieve anything anymore?
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:26am
    - stephieboy
      
      Dave Mann,
      
      What’s the point of living here and trying to achieve anything anymore?
      
      Whats stopping you as if anyone out in the real world seriously cares !
      
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      March 18, 2018 1:16pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Stephie-real world, you keep talking about it, why not join it and leave us without your mindless dribble
        
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        March 18, 2018 1:53pm
    - lofty
      
      Like you Dave, while I think I am bit more moderate in my views than you, there is nothing out there now for us, and we will not be the only ones in this particular boat.
      I have just sent an email to Simon informing him I will not be voting for him again (he is my MP).over his value capture tax views.
      Combined with his wife’s about turn flip flop in regard to the TECT payments to its beneficiaries, I have lost any faith and trust in him and his wife, and her now stance on “Legalising” the theft of beneficiaries money to go to any charity that the trustees see fit ( i.e. museum, stadiums etc etc)..no vote nationally or locally for the Bridges from me.
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:32pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Manolo , and the looney alt right like Dave Mann and you still remain on the lunatic fringe margins of our society
    
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    March 18, 2018 1:13pm
- Huevon
  
  Pretty much how I feel about this retarded idea.
  
  What right does the Government have to dip into my pocket AGAIN so that some layabout douchebag Green voter gets to ride a tram with a smug look in his face?
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:25am
- Inandout
  
  FFS, Bridges has just wiped the political advantage gained by the Labour campo ruckus.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:46am
- KiWombat
  
  This idea came from Robertson & Twitford:-
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/102122026/finance-minister-grant-robertson-is-investigating-property-value-capture-tax-to-fund-rail
  
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  March 18, 2018 11:49am
- VicParking
  
  Dave dont get you tits all twisted, it wont happen. Bridges comment was to set the COL because if they say they will bring this type of tax in they will loose the election. As soon as the COL announce that this type of tax is an election promise National will be against it. Also I dont think Bridges will be leader in 2020
  
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  March 18, 2018 12:27pm
Ross12

Another interesting bit on the free tertiary education
policy. The stats about completion of courses are telling.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hamilton-news/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503363&objectid=12014165
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March 18, 2018 10:15am
sooty

What is it with beards and the Labour party. The photo released of pissup at the sex camp has a lot of beards and bald heads. Who is baldy? The chances are he’s not young labour. No mention of Tamiti Coffee, did he go home early or just to bed. It’s along drive to Rotovagos to his own bed.
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March 18, 2018 10:31am
- kevn
  
  @sooty… coffey is the part-owner of a bar in Rotovegas. He will know the laws around liquor. Amazing the whole drunken scenario just happened around him. Maybe he supplied the booze at best rates as well?
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:46am
  - Viking2
    
    Any mention of the labour List MP from Tauranga that gave up her job as head of THE WOMENS REFUGE and was present at the camp?
    
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    March 18, 2018 11:16am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Associate Professor Sarb Johal appears in the photo alongside Liz Grant.
  
  http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/learning/departments/school-of-psychology/staff/staff-all.cfm?stref=302250
  
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  March 18, 2018 11:20am
  - stephieboy
    
    MW, what is the said Associate Professor’s claim to infamy about ?
    
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    March 18, 2018 1:18pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Who said anything about infamy, stephieboy?
      Whatever are you implying about Dr Johal?
      
      As far as I am aware he was invited to the Young Labour Waihi weekend to speak about Mental Health matters.
      Didn’t you read the Newsroom story?
      https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/03/12/96033/labour-summer-school-claims
      
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      March 18, 2018 3:16pm
softail 1450

On the nation this morning if lisa owen hadnt been in the studio doing the interview ardern would have talked non stop without stopping for breath for the entire interview ,at one stage she actually stated “but but but but but”, it sounded like she was giving instructions to one of stephieboys goats.
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March 18, 2018 10:36am
- kevn
  
  @softail… It ‘almost’ makes me want to watch our local TV offering again. But, no thanks, I get the picture.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:54am
- Tricati
  
  Wasn’t it painful to watch – My good wife commented, ‘if that is our prime minister, then god help us’
  
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  March 18, 2018 5:16pm
sooty

Secret Cindy has given the unions the ideal arse card to Cindy, with her getting pregnant. She’s out of here in a few days/weeks. New PM elected by the unions. Probaly best to get a new leader as she goes out the door and then she can take as long as she likes, before she comes back as a ordinarly MP, no questions asked. Then she can carry on doing waht she has always done, photo shoots and visiting kiddies and old folks. She has proved all she is good for was to get the union into power. Giggles and waves, that is Cindy.
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March 18, 2018 10:52am
- mikenmild
  
  Even if that were true, it would still be more than you have ever achieved
  
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  March 18, 2018 11:33am
  - sooty
    
    Pray tell mikey, what have you done other than trolling for labour.
    
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    March 18, 2018 12:24pm
- Paulus
  
  Andy warming up to get his job back c/o the Unions again.
  
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  March 18, 2018 11:37am
  - sooty
    
    I know the puddle is shallow, but why go back to what did not work?
    
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    March 18, 2018 12:25pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    When the PM and her boyfriend bought the new house there was mention of the protection squad taking up residence in the house next door.
    Was the house rented or purchased for the purpose?
    Who is picking up that bill?
    What arrangements have been made in the past – for other PMs? How much did that cost us?
    If motherhood suits Ardern and she chooses not to return to work, what happens to that property?
    
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    March 18, 2018 1:51pm
    - KiWombat
      
      DPS would buy it for purpose, then sell it when no longer required.
      
      Was not necessary in the past, Clark had a magic distress button which would have a helicopter overhead in minutes, and Key had a cat (that was not allowed on the street !)
      
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      March 18, 2018 3:38pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        So why are we contributing to homelessness by buying a house that a family could live in? Can Ardern not have a panic button and/or a cat?
        
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        March 18, 2018 5:55pm
Anne Glen Eden

I daresay this won’t be popular either. I agree with Heather du Plessis-Allen. Ardern has been made, and continues to be made, to look like a chump.

The fact that she is all image and no substance probably helps. But there’s no doubt in my mind that there is a new ‘first couple’ in the offing and it’s the Kirtons; poisoned chalice though that may be.

I wonder if the MSM always knew that or have, themselves, been made to look like chumps. The turnaround will be entertaining.

However, neither can you deny that National are supporting Labour in trying to shut down any discussion of or action against sexual assaults.

Laila Harre may have spent her time normalising assaults, drinking, and drug taking for ‘middle NZ’ as normal events in the life of children. Par for the course for NZ, having every professional in the social services trying to stop or reduce the damaging effects of all of them while political parties are supporting plying their young with all of them and/or excusing it to win their political power.

Wayne Mapps response to it? “Russia is really important.” Like Don Brash. Forgive me, but National people are running for cover – any cover they can find. Why? I’ll be generous and think it’s their corporate masters – men AND women – who wants anyone to know you’ve either made the ‘demand’ or ‘paid the price’ of sexual assault? And how will they cope if the ‘system’ is shut down?

Women won’t get ‘equal’ anything in NZ until they stop being seen as, and behaving as, a sexual commodity.

Russia is important – but it’s not like it’s in doubt. A country that’s poisoning people with weapons grade chemical weapons, let alone in other countries, and threatening WW3 is not one that we should be supporting. The sheer fact that there is doubt in some political minds, like Labour’s, shows just how much ‘conscience’ has been lost in NZ. Really? We won’t have nuclear weapons from the US but we’ll support the biggest warmonger on the planet with his nuclear weapons, AI ‘army’, and threats of WW3?

It’s ironic though and politics is always interesting. It’s liberalism, especially from the Left, that Russia is fighting against – if Russia is not ‘Russia’ then the world may as well not exist in Putin’s view. More particularly, I suppose, gay rights – and I’m sure that’s James Shaw’s reason for happily being anti-Russia. Labour clearly doesn’t know where to put itself – it’s Red but anaethema to Putin. He probably doesn’t know either.

Globalist trade, as opposed to sovereign self-sufficiency, is interesting too. “Do what we want or we’ll turn off your electricity/food/airlines….”

Aren’t all the powerful and privileged creating a wonderfully ‘safe’ and ‘peaceful’ world. Small wonder China is investing in the infrastructure of every country it can gets its money into.
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March 18, 2018 11:09am
- mikenmild
  
  Your faith in human progress has gone?
  
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  March 18, 2018 11:46am
  - sooty
    
    Lala Harre, should just ride of into the sunset, like all ex pollies. She lost all relevance when she took the fat slob crims shilling and he dressed her funny. Why do you even mention these legends in there own minds.
    
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    March 18, 2018 12:18pm
Manolo

And to New Zealand too, claims our resident pious Muslim:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/16/islam-belongs-germany-merkel-insists/

Angela Merkel has again insisted Islam is part of German culture, speaking out to contradict Interior Minister Horst Seehofer after he stressed the nation’s Christian heritage.
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March 18, 2018 12:10pm
ex-golfer

A few questions have arisen:
1. Was the Emirates hostess that fell out of a plane this week the same one having an affair with a well-known New Zealand fisherman?
2. Did the well-known fisherman only end the affair when his well-known partner became pregnant?
3. Did the hostess really fall out of the plane or was it some nefarious plan to have her silenced about the affair?
4. Will there be another inquiry?
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March 18, 2018 12:10pm
- Twinkletoes
  
  From what I have read she was Bulgarian and committed suicide by jumping out the emergency door. Whether that is true or not I do not know as it was sourced from eNCA .com
  
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  March 18, 2018 12:35pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Seems like one big hoary conspiracy theory . To early too establish what exactly happened ,
    
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-43428097
    
    But keep up the fiction and guesswork !
    
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    March 18, 2018 12:54pm
SPC

Interesting how Trump operates.

Sessions tries to demonstrate professionalism and recuses himself in the Russian matter, rather than be a Trump enabler and goes into the guy to be fired book. Then rumours come out that he is to the next one to go and so Sessions fires McCabe (an enemy in the FBI because his wife is a Democrat) two days before he retires to take away his pension. Thus Sessions shows he can do what Trump wants, if that it is what it takes to remain in his job.
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March 18, 2018 12:23pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  That’s bullshit
  
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  March 18, 2018 12:33pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Shaun the Sheep.
    
    can you expand on BS ?
    
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    March 18, 2018 12:39pm
- virtualmark
  
  McCabe is one of three senior FBI officials who can corroborate Comey’s accounts of Trump obstructing justice. Trump has moved on all three, to attempt to impugn the value of their testimony against him. See http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/26/trump-launched-campaign-to-discredit-potential-fbi-witnesses/amp/
  
  It’s a move straight out of the Putin/Erdogan/Duterte type strongman playbook … try to de-legitimise the justice and constitutional frameworks that would otherwise expose your illegal behaviour.
  
  I doubt it will be totally effective though. In itself it can be seen to be a further obstruction of justice. And Mueller has at least 3 separate areas where Trump will go down, so weakening just 1 of those doesn’t on its own help.
  
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  March 18, 2018 1:03pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    According to the Press Release from the Dept of Justice, McCabes firing was recommended after an investigation by the FBIs Office of Professional Responsibility-an investigation which began before Trump was elected and also recommended by the Inspector General of the Department of Justice- and he is an Obama Appointee.
    He was fired for leaking to the Press and lying in his reports and in sworn testimony.
    Comey was doing the same. Others have been fired before for the same thing.
    The IGs report will be out soon. There will be a second Special Counsel appointed to take up from that report.
    The IG has had someone investigating for quite some time. The odds are McCabe and Comey are going to be charged. Amongst others.
    Oh and I reckon Flynn will get his charges dropped too.
    But hey, you guys stick to your fantasies. It’s funny.
    
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    March 18, 2018 1:27pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , I suggest you do two things ,
      
      1 Source your C& P
      
      2 . Keep your gob shut until more facts come to light .
      
      “Anyone who is confidently pronouncing on the merits of Andrew McCabe’s firing Friday night is venturing well beyond the realm of known facts.
      
      “We certainly understand the instinct to rally to McCabe’s defense at a time when the president is issuing triumphant tweets and White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders is declaring him a “bad actor.” McCabe’s dismissal comes as part of a broader purge of the senior FBI leadership and specifically targets a man who behaved with extraordinary courage and dignity in the wake of James Comey’s firing last year. It is only natural for those repulsed by the president’s broader interactions with the FBI to assume the worst.
      
      But on McCabe’s innocence or culpability for some infraction that might justify his dismissal, we will reserve judgment—and we caution others to as well. It is simply not clear at this stage whether or not the record will support his dismissal…”
      
      https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-we-know-and-dont-know-about-firing-andrew-mccabe
      
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      March 18, 2018 1:32pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Thats not very nice Ralph.
        
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        March 18, 2018 1:41pm
      - Ross12
        
        All_on_Red is correct stephieboy.
        
        From Session’s statement :
        ” After an extensive and fair investigation and according to Department of Justice procedure, the Department’s Office of Inspector General (OIG) provided its report on allegations of misconduct by Andrew McCabe to the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibilty (OPR).
        The FBI’s OPR then reviewed the report and the underlying documents and issued a disciplinary proposal recommending the dismissal of Mr McCabe. Both the OIG and FBI OPR reports concluded that Mr McCabe had made an unauthorised disclosure to the news media and lacked candor–including under oath –on multiple occasions.
        The FBI expects every employee to adhere to the highest standards of honesty,integrity, and accountability. As the OPR proposal stated “all FBI employees know that lacking candor under oath results in dismissal and our integrity is our brand”
        ….
        So effectively McCabe was judged by his peers.
        
        I heard on TV last night that 19 other FBI employees have been dismissed for similar reasons in the last year.
        If you want read move go to the The Conservative Treehouse site
        
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        March 18, 2018 1:52pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Stephie
        Keep your gob shut until more facts come to light .
        
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        March 18, 2018 1:54pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Ross 12 , mine was strictly legal consideration of the sacking
        
        However these summary five points are made
        
        Five reasons The President would of wanted Mc Cabe sacked ,
        
        TO DETER FUTURE LEAKS
        
        TO SHOW POWER OVER SESSIONS
        
        TO SEND MESSAGE TO CRITICS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
        
        TO TARNISH THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’S RUSSIA INVESTIGATION
        
        TO LOOK LIKE A CHAMPION OF THE WORKING CLASS
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/102360490/five-reasons-donald-trump-would-have-wanted-andrew-mccabe-fired
        
        BTW , please source your quote !
        
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        March 18, 2018 2:12pm
      - Ross12
        
        OMG, stephieboy are you suggesting that Sessions decision for sacking McCabe was not legal.
        I told you where I got the copy of Session’s statement but since you don’t want to look it up here it is:
        
        https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/17/dont-ignore-the-obvious-key-words-from-ag-sessions-including-under-oath/
        
        I note from your post :
        “Five reasons The President would of wanted Mc Cabe sacked ” …that is a journalist guessing at something. Nothing legal about it.
        
        The bit on your original post may have been on some sort of legal blog but again it is not a legal opinion but a guess about what has been going on.
        
        BTW. The use of the word “candor” in Sessions statement is the PC word for lying.
        
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        March 18, 2018 3:23pm
    - virtualmark
      
      All_on_Red,
      
      Yes, according to the DOJ press release McCabe was fired for leaking.
      
      McCabe disputes this, and says the investigation was a setup. No one has seen the report the firing is supposedly justified by. Previous such cases have taken months to work their way through the system, this one took a matter of days.
      
      It’s clear McCabe’s firing is a political hit job. That is the sort of behaviour we expect in banana republics. Not the United States.
      
      It’s also clear that Trump’s efforts to halt the Mueller probe are getting more frenzied. That is the action of a guilty man.
      
      I predict that the real “red line” will be when Mueller subpoenas Trump for an interview. Trump will know full well that he cannot get through that interview without either perjuring himself or exposing himself. So Trump will need to sack Mueller in order that that interview not take place. That will be the critical point in this whole juncture … will the House Republicans meekly go along with Trump obstructing justice? Or will they finally call time on him?
      
      Either way … November is coming. It seems all but certain the Dems will hold the House of Reps after November, and then this whole Trump investigation will start up again. They will want to draw that out right through 2019 and into 2020.
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:47pm
    - virtualmark
      
      All_on_Red,
      
      Note too that the information McCabe supposedly leaked was harmful to Hilary.
      
      If you really think Trump would see firing someone for being mean to Hilary as just cause then I have a bridge to sell you.
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:49pm
- MH
  
  drain the swamp OMG he’s fracking it.
  
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  March 18, 2018 1:20pm
wiseowl

All National MP’s should be held down ,tied to a chair and made to watch the Outsiders today .
The interview with Jordan Peterson is a must.
On now and repeated later.
Channel 85
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March 18, 2018 12:38pm
- stephieboy
  
  wiseowl ,
  
  not before National MPs consider this ,
  
  “ Jordan peterson would be like Target 1A for the anti-free speech cultural marxist thought police & thus far the full extent of their villainous persecution of him has been a letter telling him to knock it off “
  
  “..His popularity with the right has led him to be interviewed by a whole slew of famous anti-leftist stars, including Tara McCarthy,[31] Sargon of Akkad,[32] Stefan Molyneux,[33] Dave Rubin,[34] and Theryn Meyer.[35] Peterson has also appeared on the H3 Podcast.[36] Richard Spencer has said that he respects Peterson’s work, and that they “share a lot of common ground and philosophical starting points…”[
  
  https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson
  
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  March 18, 2018 12:49pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Why don’t you actually read, watch or listen to Jordan Peterson and then try something novel; make up your own mind rather than regurgitate someone else’s opinion that fits your narrative.
    At no point have you ever laid out your your rebuttal to Petersons thoughts; are you intellectually weak Stephieboy?
    
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    March 18, 2018 4:49pm
    - stephieboy
      
      SC , like you I suppose the same reason I don’t enjoy watching conspiracy nutters like Alex Jones and fake news like Breitbart !
      
      https://www.thecut.com/2017/08/breitbart-editor-has-a-conspiracy-theory-about-vogue-cover.html
      
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      March 18, 2018 5:55pm
Huevon

Guy Williams has the face of a guy you just want to smack. Sorry.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/stage-and-theatre/102212513/guy-williams-my-2018-comedy-festival-picks–or-how-to-lose-friends-and-make-people-hate-you
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March 18, 2018 12:39pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  How to lose friends? Well hooking up with a self righteous, self promoting, neo-Marxist, genocide apologist is probably a good start.
  
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  March 18, 2018 4:51pm
  - stephieboy
    
    SC , neo-Marxist, genocide ?? Mind taking off the tin foil hat ?
    
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    March 18, 2018 5:56pm
    - Harkman
      
      Bumping up your numbers again stephie? 22,000 is coming. I noticed that you were somewhat subdued during the Young Labour debacle.
      
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      March 18, 2018 7:44pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Hartmann , not at all . It’s just useless trying to make sense and common ground with unreason and hysteria that the young labour scandal generated with the alt right like you !
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:09pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II0od7LxUMo

Voltaire’s Ghost
Published on Mar 16, 2018

Sadiq Khan, Censorship, and Speakers’ Corner

The Mayor of London wants to officially apply German hate speech laws to social media. At least, for the far-right. And terrorists.

Original video: https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/…

Brittany Pettibone’s Letter: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYHjjolXU…

‘Meet the Couple Detained for Free Speech in the UK’ by Tommy Robinson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPzzr…
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March 18, 2018 12:52pm
stephieboy

Rodney Randal , a highly misleading post ,

“Misleading Q&A question on Sadiq Khan should have been corrected, ABC admits”

Viewers accuse Q&A of ‘fake news’ over incorrect claim that London mayor said terrorism was ‘part and parcel’ of living in a big city afte

“..But, as many viewers remarked on the program’s Facebook page, Khan actually said being prepared for the threat of terror attacks was part and parcel of living in a big city and he said it six months earlier about another incident, not the London attack.
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What Khan actually said in September was: “Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job. We must never accept terrorists being successful, we must never accept that terrorists do ..”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/mar/29/misleading-qa-question-on-sadiq-khan-should-have-been-corrected-abc-admits
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March 18, 2018 1:11pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  Thanks for that Ralph. I am aware of the incorrect paraphrasing.
  
  How do feel about the the recent events involving Brittany Pettibone, her partner and Lauren Southern?
  
  Are you comfortable with the Mayor’s recent comment re. censorship and the British government’s banning of the above mentioned right wing conservatives?
  
  Are you also comfortable with similar persons being banned from speakers corner, a 300 year old tradition?
  
  All cool in the hood with you?
  
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  March 18, 2018 1:25pm
  - stephieboy
    
    RR , give me time to examine the claims about censorship and see if the Mayor has been misquoted yet again.
    
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    March 18, 2018 2:14pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      “claims about censorship”
      
      “claims” Wow!
      
      You are clearly not even aware of the recent events in the UK concerning the British government banning Lauren Southern, Brittany Pettibone and her partner.
      
      Looking forward to the next non sequitur!
      
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      March 18, 2018 2:22pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Not wanting to defend the decision re Laura Southern, nor go a second round with you today (I think we took our online relationship as far as it can go yesterday ?)
        
        …but Southern has not been censored in the UK. You can still read her writings there. Instead, she was denied entry to the country. Which, as per the decision of other nations to deny entry and a resulting platform to the likes of provocative/incendiary personalities such as Holocaust-denier David Irving, is their prerogative as a sovereign nation. And one, in the absence of evidence confirming a conspiracy, has nothing to do with any executive decision by Sadiq Khan.
        
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        March 18, 2018 3:13pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        Kimbo.
        
        I am only after some consistency with respect to the governments right to choose who they let in.
        
        200 returning Isis fighers were allowed back in to the country. The Mayor of London has admitted this yet, he has no idea of their whereabouts, and displayed a rather cavalier attitude when challenged on mornign tv about this absurd matter.
        
        Radical clerics, known for their hate speech, (calling for the death of infidels/jews/homosexuals) have been allowed in to the UK to speak at universities. These same British universities made stipulations as to which questions students could ask thereby allowing the radicals a specific priviledge.
        
        To deny Lauren Southern, Pettibone and her partner entry is an abomination. It is an inversion of the ancient traditional liberal democratic values you respect.
        
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        March 18, 2018 5:25pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Fair enough, and like I said, I ain’t defending their decision re Southern. Just clarifying it’s not censorship in the first instance.
        
        And if I understand the legal issues correctly, the problem with returning ISIS fighters is that they are UK passport holders. But their country and their problem to solve…just as we seem to be with that Kiwi passport holder currently in Melbourne whose case if before the NZ courts. I’m assuming there are similar security issues. So in our case at least, there seems some consistency. UK? Their country. Are you a Brit? Not
        that you aren’t allowed an opinion about their policies…
        
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        March 18, 2018 5:31pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        have a think about this Stephie and feel free to respond
        
        200+ Is Jihadis welcome!
        Radical clerics welcome on campuses (just don’t ask them certain questions thay may cause offence!) i.e. afforded special priviledge.
        
        3 Conservative right wingers that cause offence to Islam…BANNED from entering the UK.
        
        Continue defending the indefensible
        
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        March 18, 2018 5:34pm
      - stephieboy
        
        As kimbo has observed nobody is banned from listening or reading Southern whatsoever .
        
        It is like banning David Irving from visiting here .Nobody is banned from reading or viewing him and his obnoxious holocaust denial and anti newish agenda ( actually I believe Irvine and Southern should be able to come to NZ to speak )
        
        200 Jihadists ?. If they have committed war crimes etc then there would be laws in the UK or Internationally they would be charged with . But first the UK authorities etc have to have proof . If so they can be duly charged and tried .
        
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        March 18, 2018 5:50pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        Kimbo:
        
        “UK? Their country. Are you a Brit? Not
        that you aren’t allowed an opinion about their policies…”
        
        I recall a not dissimilar tone, (althought more obtuse and threatening) from somewhere else…
        
        “Not a Muslim? Then don’t make assumptions about Islamic culture” – Golriz Gharhaman (who isn’t a Muslim…apparently!)
        
        What an own goal!
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:00pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        Stephie,
        
        “200 Jihadists ?”
        
        The Mayor of London confirmed this number on live British television.
        
        Check it out. You know how to use google aye?
        
        Perhaps you could have a word in the parish’s ear at St. Albans the Martyr and suggest they host Lauren Southern and Brittany Pettibone should they ever venture this way?
        
        I hear that the Anglican church is an all inclusive, accepting, loving community open to all political persuasions!
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:06pm
      - stephieboy
        
        RR , give up the infantilism
        
        200 Jihadist is not questioned . But whether they can be charged which is another thing.
        
        Churches like other organisations choose those they wish to have and speak . For the moment it does not include anti semites like David Irving , Radical Muslim Clerics nor nutters like Lauren Southern and Brittany Pettibone ( the latter nutcase theories like white genocide and Pizzagate )
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:13pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Rodney Randall
        
        I recall a not dissimilar tone, (althought more obtuse and threatening) from somewhere else…
        
        “Not a Muslim? Then don’t make assumptions about Islamic culture” – Golriz Gharhaman (who isn’t a Muslim…apparently!)
        
        What an own goal!
        
        A “not dissimilar tone”? What part of my statement…
        
        Not
        that you aren’t allowed an opinion about their policies…
        
        …wasn’t clear? 😉
        
        And yeah, I get the implied point that you don’t want what you perceive is going wrong in the UK to happen here. Fair enough, and no, I think you have every right to argue that point. Hence my reference to the NZ passport holder currently in Melbourne, likely a suspected jihadi, who is denied entry to NZ…
        
        So “fuck Golriz” when it comes to advice on…anything is my take on the woman based on her statements and actions.
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:34pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        Stephie
        
        “200 Jihadists ?”- Stephieboy 6:06pm
        (nice space before the question mark)
        
        Following contribution:
        
        “200 Jihadist is not questioned” – Stephie 6:13pm
        
        Wow!
        
        Outstanding Steph
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:35pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        Stephie:
        
        “actually I believe Irvine and Southern should be able to come to NZ to speak ” – Stephieboy
        
        It would be really appreciated Steph, contrary to your opinions of Southern and Pettibone, and in the interests of free speech, if perhaps you could tee up the Yoga room beneath St Albans as a venue?
        
        If I contact Lauren and Britanny, do you think you could secure the Yoga room?
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:41pm
      - stephieboy
        
        RR, I believe that my church does not make room for nutcases like Southern nor Pettibone .
        
        Nor other nutters like Alex Jones , Rob Spencer or say Ann Coulter .
        
        But feel free to invite them to your venue for a laugh !
        
        http://www.scientology-auckland.org
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:13pm
Paulus

Both strong Union left wing Kirton and his equally strong wife (a Belich) are seen as very promising future leaders of the Parliamentary Labour Party and as such are untouchable.
He/they can do no wrong in the eyes of the Labour Party.
Kirton and probably wife have been “promised high seat placings in the next Labour Party time (election ?).
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March 18, 2018 1:12pm
Chuck Bird

I wonder what he was charged with. He should have been charged with perverting the course of justice and not rendering assistance. If there is a God he should tot in hell.

Exclusive Brethren fatal crash: Church ‘sent clean-up crew’

Phillip Wearmouth was among the group of Brethren at the beach. He told police he followed the Mitsubishi and came across the crash 30 seconds after it happened.

Russell Stewart was driving but “ran off”, he said.

After pleading guilty in court, Stewart was sentenced to four months’ community detention and disqualified from driving for one year.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12015112
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March 18, 2018 1:44pm
Longknives

The Standard have absolutely lost their shit over Heather Du Plessis-Allan daring to suggest Labour mishandled the Young Labour debacle..

I suggest you pop over and have a read- The Left really are angry little creatures aren’t they?
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March 18, 2018 1:48pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  “I suggest you pop over and have a read”
  
  Thanks but no thanks.
  
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  March 18, 2018 2:00pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Quite right. Even the Standard has…standards! ?
    
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    March 18, 2018 5:27pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Careful Kimbo
      You’ll have No Mates Mikey and Sad Stephie call you a Stalker at this rate…
      
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      March 18, 2018 5:37pm
- niggly
  
  Without wanting to look at those wayne-kerrs, if its the Standard’s authors getting agro then it looks like HDPA has stumbled on to the truth (which they are trying to shut down/discredit her) which is that the Labour camp sexual harassment appears to have been clumsily covered up by the top echelon of the Labour Party Executive (eg the likes of Haworth, H2, Kirton etc).
  
  Kirton was the fall-guy to front the media when the issue blew up (whilst Media were asking where was the LP President Haworth).
  
  (As an aside I can’t recall if it was Kirton or Mike Williams or possibly Haworth who indicated I think last Wed that Labour was expecting media to break the story Tuesday but Newsroom published the day before, thus leaving Labour scrambling to have Kirton quickly front it who ummed and erred his way through various media interviews rather unconvincingly on his back foot – perhaps also why Jacinda was caught-out at the Monday presser as she possibly wasn’t fully briefed by the Labour Party Exec by then? (I think the interview was on ZB drive last Wed?)).
  
  HDPA and the MSM just need to keep asking the Labour Party who made those decisions not to address the sexual harassment issue sooner by informing the Police and who decided to cover it up, if they want to get to the truth.
  
  The other aspect about all this is that it proves (just like Winston knows and has exploited it) that Jacinda is nothing but a figure-head “Women’s Weekly type pretty face” to appeal to the masses and it is the Labour Party Exec that has the power (after all they appointed her once they sacrificed Andrew Little thanks to a timely last-minute way out clause under the LP rulebook – so what’s the bet this wasn’t spontaneous and had been planned for a while as a result as they became increasingly alarmed at the then dismal poll rating declines).
  
  So Jacinda has no real power and is being told what to do by the LP Executive (and even Winston at times). As a result there is no way that Jacinda is in a position to ask for LP Exec heads to roll – that pressure will only come from the Media (for someone in the LP Exec to resign).
  
  Jacinda is powerless, put there by the Exec and she knows it. But they exploit her by ensuring she does the heavy-lifting in terms of fronting the media to deal with the fall-out (that was never caused by her in the first place – I suspect if Jacinda was actually in charge she would have admitted Labour’s responsibility a lot earlier)!
  
  Frankly with a baby on the way who needs all this stress to deal with, complicating her own and the baby’s health? Certainly not Jacinda, certainly not any expectant mother.
  
  Perhaps if Jacinda had the smarts she would “do a John Key” and step down from the leadership (sooner rather than later to preserve her health suffers and let someone else deal with these shenanigans) and leave with her popularity intact and high public approval ratings?
  
  The bonus is after a few years of bringing up her child as a fabulous adoring mum able to spend good quality time together, she could easily slot back in as Labour leader (especially if the LP Exec old guard are gone by then)!
  
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  March 18, 2018 2:59pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Too late..popularity won’t be intact and public approval ratings will have slumped after this monumental balls up.
    
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    March 18, 2018 4:18pm
All_on_Red

PERVWATCH
A division of Groperwatch
Today we look at one of Kiwiblogs Biggest Creeps.
Yes, it’s RALPH/STEPHIEBOY
This sleezy creep has had Strikes for linking to porn sites on KB.
Who has such a lack of judgement?
Yes, it’s Ralph/ Stephieboy, the hypocrite who prays at St Albans Church but is an admitted PERV who said this:

‘19,565 COMMENTS
stephieboy
Yesterday I was at the Robert Harris cafe St Lukes Megacentre , Mt Albert enjoying a cappuccino. I noticed next door three Muslim women enjoying their lattes with their children . Two of these honeypots .were wearing their Nijabs with stylish jeans and blouses . The other in more typical kiwi informal attire?
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‘Honeypots’!!!
And this;
Jack 5, recently i was at St Luke’s shopping mall and I saw a Muslim lady dressed in traditional apparel accompanied by her two beautiful young daughters dressed in modern western tight jeans and blouses , revealing lovely supple body proportions , including small but ample breasts .
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Wow, just wow.
PERVWATCH is brought to you as a public service to out the creeps amongst us.
RAPLH/STEPHIEBOY is PERV #1 and THE nastiest and rudest commentator on Kiwiblog.
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March 18, 2018 1:49pm
- Manolo
  
  The flesh is weak, says KB’s resident Muslin while facing Mecca. 🙂
  
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  March 18, 2018 2:05pm
- mikenmild
  
  AoR is Kiwiblog’s No.1 Stalker.
  No one likes him
  
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  March 18, 2018 3:00pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”No one likes him”….
    
    That’s a bit tough Mike. AoR is performing a public service in outing a potential sex offender.
    
    We need more like him!
    
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    March 18, 2018 5:38pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      I thought there was general agreement on Kiwiblog – evidenced by various comments regarding the Labour sex/booze camp for under-age and vulnerable children – that any suggestion of sexual impropriety must be taken seriously and, where appropriate, reported!
      
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      March 18, 2018 5:51pm
      - nasska
        
        It’s probably that KB’s tut-tutters have been overloaded with Labour Party sexual impropriety Nostra.
        
        Mike’s just in a shitty mood from having to cover these forums & point out squirrels all by himself 24/7. 🙂
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:01pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Another possibility is that Mikenmild sees Young Labour events (now known to be sex parties) as a threat to the Quarry Inn business!
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:24pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I think there are actually more things to worry about with the present government than who knew what about sexual offending at a youth camp.
        That’s not minimising the issue, or pointing at a squirrel. would suggest that more important things to consider include:
        1. The astounding failure for the government to support the UK following the Russian chemical attack.
        2. The role and influence of the Chinese government n New Zealand, and within the National and Labour parties in particular.
        3. Holding the senior ministers to account for their performance, or lack thereof.
        
        That would be just a start, of course.
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:28pm
      - nasska
        
        The problem, of course, is Mike that although you’re quite correct in stating that those three things are vastly more important they will not bring down the government. If general incompetence performed that function then most Western democracies would swap governments on a monthly basis.
        
        But a good sex scandal can. Accompanied by lies & obfuscation spread by an airhead with a university degree in doublespeak it becomes more possible by the day.
        
        That’s why we push it.
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:58pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ nasska
        
        The good old “death by a thousand cuts” strategy, first perfected in NZ politics by Trevor Mallard in 1996 to 1999. But competency, or at least perceived competency is still a good insurance policy that keeps an incumbent in power until “it’s time for a change” kicks in and it dies of old age.
        
        Hence, despite inevitable scandals such as Richard Worth, John Key was Mr Teflon who used to nip them in the bud. Or, like ponytailgate, laugh it off with that light touch he had.
        
        And so too did Helen Clark, not with a light touch, but by micromanaging everything, even that stupid painting. That was until she linked up with Winston Peters in 2005 which opened the door to all sorts of fuck ups from him. Plus, due to her traditional Labour paranoia about corporate money supposedly buying elections, she foolishly pushed the electoral reform bill after overreacting to the Closed Brethren. And there was David Benson Pope and Taino Philip Field. All Part of the thousand cuts which sapped the image of competence in her last term…
        
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        March 18, 2018 7:11pm
      - nasska
        
        Competency is a subjective thing Kimbo. IOW it is how an administration’s handling of inevitable fuck ups is perceived by individual voters that will dictate the lifespan of a government.
        
        John Key & Helen Clark were masters of the art & both survived multiple terms because of it. I’m sure that you have noticed that neither would tell a deliberate lie if they had the slightest inkling that they would be found out.
        
        The Peoples Princess is a gifted liar but an intellectual lightweight who will fold under pressure.
        
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        March 18, 2018 7:28pm
      - GoVege
        
        I see that Foxy Lady from the ra… Maori Party is calling for “heads to roll” over the 16 year olds at the Labour Party camp having a hand put down their pants.
        Maybe she could ask the same for those facilitators of sexual abuse in her own party who advocate hundreds of 12 to 16 year olds being impregnated to keep up Maori fertility rates?
        
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        March 18, 2018 8:48pm
  - lofty
    
    I quite like reading his comments..but thanks for lumping me into your nobody statement.
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:47pm
- stephieboy
  
  The Stalker: Motivations and Intentions
  
  Stalkers will not take no for an answer
  
  Stalkers display an obsessive personality.
  
  Most stalkers don’t have any relationship outside the one they are trying to re-establish or the one they have imagined exists between them and their victim.
  
  Stalkers don’t display the discomfort or anxiety that people should naturally feel in certain situations.
  
  https://salewid.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/sdfsf/
  
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  March 18, 2018 4:00pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Check out the lack of self awareness from the two guys who all they do day and night is snipe and troll everyone’s comments on Kiwiblog
    54,000 comments between them!
    Yep, Mikenmild and Stephieboy are actually Kiwiblogs Biggest stalkers.
    So funny.
    
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    March 18, 2018 4:38pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Actually, when you think about it. It’s clear from the amount of time they have to devote to this site that they can’t have much of a life outside it.
      No Mates Mikey and Sad Pervy Stephie/Ralph
      
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      March 18, 2018 4:47pm
    - mikenmild
      
      You must have a different definition of stalker, then. You are definitely Kiwiblog’s biggest doxxer.
      And your 7,800 comments – well I guess that tiny number of contributions excuses your ignorance of blog etiquette.
      Don’t worry, you can catch up if you try!
      
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      March 18, 2018 4:51pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        No Mates Mikey
        I don’t stalk him. Just like everyone else I just give his shit back when he stalks all of us.
        As for doxing. He did it to himself telling us about the readings he does at St Albans Church -where his name was on the Roster and his Facebook page was!
        Hahahahahahaha
        What a Mong.
        As for Blog Etiquette. Ha, you’re the biggest troll on here
        What a hypocrite
        So funny.
        
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        March 18, 2018 5:52pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , provide some clues ?
        
        Do you live in Auckland ?
        
        Yes ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:00pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Stalker!
        ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:06pm
      - holysheet
        
        Stooopidboy and Ralph, were walking through a paddock. Stooopidboy sees a goat caught up in a fence and says to Ralph “I’m gonna get me some of that”! Stooopidboy goes over and sticks the goat’s back feet in his rubber boots, unzips his pants and starts to have sex with the goat. He looks over his shoulder at Ralph and says “Do you want some of this”? Ralph replies “yes let me see if I can get my shirt caught up in the fence”.
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:30pm
      - mikenmild
        
        AoR
        You clearly don’t know what doxxing means.
        You ‘give his shit back’?
        By connecting his incautious comments to a church and looking up the roster so you could harass him here?
        That’s a real shitty thing to do, especially to a guy like stephieboy who is clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
        You are just like the bully at school that starts the attack on the handicapped boy. A cowardly loser making himself feel better about his inadequacies by talking tough on a blog. Typical internet tough guy. Consider yourself added to the 101st Chairborne Divison, ~~soldier~~ wanker.
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:37pm
      - GoVege
        
        You’re right, milky.
        AOR proves it himself by mocking downs people.
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:29pm
      - mikenmild
        
        He’s a nasty piece of work, for sure.
        Next time he doxxes stephieboy I hope he gets enough reports to DPF to get a warning, at least.
        
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        March 19, 2018 6:24am
RF

I truly believe the commie chick was aware of the booze sex disaster and this was one of the reasons Mike Hosking received instructions concerning discussion topics. He obviously did not know but the commie could not be positive about this and played it safe by imposing a blanket ban.

Some say that she looked like a possum in the headlights when she was being interviewed so that proves she did not know.

I still believe it was a “Oh Shit they know” moment and her bowels turned to water.

Someone will rat on her.
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March 18, 2018 2:12pm
- lifesgood
  
  Agreed RF. On February 12 it was on twitter on Kermy@ferttman. He said it would make the Darren Hughes episode sound like a fairy tale. If that posting hadn’t reached labour they are greater morons than I originally thought. It was out there for a month!.
  
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  March 18, 2018 2:23pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    lifesgood: I looked it up. I hope others do as well. It was actually Feb 11.
    
    Cindy may not have known every detail but she would have known there was at the very least there was some sex scandal at the camp and either she decided or was adviced not to do the interview with Hosking,.
    
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    March 18, 2018 3:43pm
    - Kimbo
      
      …but despite going on Hosking’s programme for the rest of February, it was only for the scheduled March 5 interview that the request was made to confine any questions to a specific topic, specifically the Pacific tour that Ardern was on at that stage. Which means the real likely reason for the restriction was because she was out of the country, and out of touch with events, wasn’t sure of being adequately briefed, had insufficient depth of knowledge and research at her finger tips to answer any questions that came her way as a good PM should,
      
      …so she and/or her media minders didn’t want to risk being exposed as unable to walk and chew gum at the same time.
      
      Hanlon’s Razor – do not attribute to malice that which incompetence can adequately explain.
      
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      March 18, 2018 3:59pm
    - lifesgood
      
      It is a disgrace that the MSM isn’t following up that tweet and asking questions, but they wouldn’t would they.
      
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      March 18, 2018 4:25pm
- Kimbo
  
  Shit, RF. If that is sufficient “proof” to confirm it for you, I’m starting to have doubts about your activities when you were in the police force. Weren’t ever called upon to sieve a garden in Pekekawa, were you?! ?‍♂️?
  
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  March 18, 2018 4:07pm
  - RF
    
    Kimbo.
    
    I have a pocket full of fired 22 shell cases. For you a special price.
    
    I know you believe the fairy princess “knew nothing”.
    
    I am in the other camp. Give me time and I will “find” the evidence.
    
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    March 18, 2018 4:33pm
    - Kimbo
      
      I look forward to watching you at work. If it is anywhere near as good as your Minto bar wielding skills, it will be worth the price of admission. ?
      
      But, no, while not absolutely (justified emphatic adverb!) convinced Ardern knew nothing, the balance of probabilities tells me that’s the case. And given those shell cases, I’m now a bit skeptical about the veracity of any “smoking gun” you produce that purports to reveal “what did the Prime Minister know, and when did she know it?” ?
      
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      March 18, 2018 4:45pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Kimbo, wonder if you are a LP plant just in case of an emergency. I have never heard a PM make the demands that Comrade Cindy did to Hosking. They might dodge questions like she is doing now. The camp was a crime scene and she wanted to make sure they were all singing from the same song sheet before she was interviewed. This is a tactic of many criminals.
    
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    March 18, 2018 4:46pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Yet still no explanation why she risked her cover being blown by going on Hosking’s programme all through February?
      
      A Labour Party plant? Yeah, maybe I am. We sure as had someone else doing a hell of a lot of shilling around here on behalf of another political party in the months leading up to the 2017 election, assuring us
      
      * Winston Peters would always go into with National
      
      * He was non-negotiable about abolishing the Maori seats
      
      * The drift of the Pike River Mine is safe to re-enter and it would be one of the first things Winston Peters, along with the president of his Ngaruawahia fan club, would do personally on gaining government.
      
      So, given that level of predictive expertise I’m as unphased about your speculations about mt motives and affiliations, as I’m sure Ardern would be if she knew your sad history. In the meantime, why are you still commenting here. Don’t you and your (false) Messiah have a job to do? ?
      
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      March 18, 2018 4:55pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        “Yet still no explanation why she risked her cover being blown by going on Hosking’s programme all through February? ”
        
        The answer is simple. Firstly, she may not have heard what happened in February. Secondly, if she had heard she may have thought the media had not got wind of it.
        
        I am not saying that she knew before she was allegedly blindsided but it is highly likely she did know. It is politics 101 with all political parties that the leader is not kept in the dark on such a matter. I also reiterate that her demands on Hosking were most unusual. Most issues that she was not briefed on she could have easily fobbed off.
        
        I have already acknowledged I was wrong to vote for Peters. Not only was I wrong but many senior National MPs were wrong. They have said publicly that they believe Peters had not ruled out National before negotiations. Do you think you are smarter than them?
        
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        March 18, 2018 5:32pm
      - Kimbo
        
        I am not saying that she knew before she was allegedly blindsided…
        
        Coulda fooled me judging by the statements you’ve made today on General Debate alone! 😉
        
        And no, I do not claim to be smarter than National MPs who had no other option but to hope for the best and assume Peters was negotiating in good faith. They lost nothing anyway. But I don’t claim they are wiser than them, because, like them
        
        1. I didn’t vote for NZ First
        
        2. I party voted for National.
        
        So I can hold my head up, and know that as a result my comments and political analysis, no matter how flawed, have a bit more credibility around here than some others… 😉
        
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        March 18, 2018 5:56pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        ” I am not saying that she knew before she was allegedly blindsided…
        
        Coulda fooled me judging by the statements you’ve made today on General Debate alone! ”
        
        Kimbo: you make Peters look honest.
        
        You cannot even quote a full sentence. I said.
        
        ” I am not saying that she knew before she was allegedly blindsided but it is highly likely she did know. It is politics 101 with all political parties that the leader is not kept in the dark on such a matter. I also reiterate that her demands on Hosking were most unusual. Most issues that she was not briefed on she could have easily fobbed off. ”
        
        Democracy is not helped by people who look at political parties as football hooligans support their teams. Swinging voters help democracy.
        
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        March 18, 2018 8:52pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Swinging voters help democracy.
        
        Not if they are wilfully misinformed, gullible and credulous. ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 8:58pm
stigie

“He said it would make the Darren Hughes episode sound like a fairy tale.”

Not if they found Darren Hughes running down the road naked and just been molested..?
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March 18, 2018 2:44pm
- lifesgood
  
  I’d love to know if the poor victim in the Darren Hughes case was leaned on to shut up or paid out or what. Why was Hughes completely let off the hook?
  
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  March 18, 2018 2:56pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    There was not enough evidence to charge Darren Hughes.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/5116292/No-charges-laid-against-Darren-Hughes
    
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    March 18, 2018 3:05pm
    - niggly
      
      Which IIRC is because the victim didn’t want to press charges at the time.
      
      No doubt the Police would have been contending with Darren Hughes in full-denial/cover-up mode, so had nothing to go on in terms of pressing charges.
      
      Which IIRC resulted in a lot of disquiet even further disgust at Darren Hughes because of the way he then claimed, as per that Fairfax article at the time, that he was “falsely accused” and “had done nothing wrong”.
      
      For someone who claimed he did nothing wrong he sure did go to extraordinary lengths to avoid further public scrutiny, including leaving the country altogether!
      
      And so it seems, nothing changes with Labour even today – attempt to hush it up or deny it, never take full and proper responsibility, don’t be accountable!
      
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      March 18, 2018 3:16pm
      - Longknives
        
        Hughes now works for the Electoral Reform Society in the UK.
        Working Class Brits must just love a Socialist New Zealander (who fled his own Country in disgrace) pontificating to them about how they treat ‘Minorities’ etc…
        
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        March 18, 2018 3:28pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Longknives
        
        They put up with Bryan Gould doing that for years! Maybe he supplied a reference for Hughes. ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 3:31pm
      - Longknives
        
        Didn’t he invent Soduku?
        
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        March 18, 2018 3:34pm
      - Longknives
        
        Wiki tells me it was his Brother dammit!
        
        There goes my spot on Kimbo’s crack Quiz Team…
        
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        March 18, 2018 3:35pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Hmm. So what you are saying is that one of the Gould brothers achieved fame inventing a game where otherwise random figures are fitted into a coherent but nonetheless meaningless pattern in order to meet the media’s need to satisfy public demand
        
        …whereas the other invented Soduku? ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 3:47pm
      - Longknives
        
        Speaking of Goulds- Roger Gould had one of the most impressive punts you would ever see in Rugby.
        He was also brilliant under the high ball for such a big guy.
        *Desperately trying to redeem myself here Kimbo…
        
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        March 18, 2018 4:54pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Well done. Wrote a chapter in my rugby coaching book about him. Basically the All Blacks assumed, in his test debut (1st test, 1980 at the SCG) that it would be a clever idea for fellow debutant Wayne Smith to send up and understand all day to Gould as that was the standard welcome to a new test fullback in that era. Just ask poor old Colin Farrell!
        
        What they didn’t know, but found out at the end of the 9-13 loss, was that Gould had played Australian football, had hands like buckets, and could kick long distances like Don Clarke. So Smith kept on putting the ball up, and Gould kept kicking it back all day with up to 50 metres interest.
        
        The All Blacks made similar assumptions about roughing up the other two Wallaby debutants that day, an unknown red haired flanker by the name of Simon Poidevin, and a raw stand off named Mark Ella. As you can likely guess, assumption was the mother of all fuck ups that day! ?
        
        Saw Gould play live here in NZ two years later. Was sitting directl6 behind him when he punted a ball from just a few metres out from his own goal line. The ball was still going up when it went out at about the half way line, and the crowd around me was drawing its collective breath in admiration.
        
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        March 18, 2018 5:09pm
      - Longknives
        
        Lescarboura could also kick it the length of the field..
        I remember a Test (Maybe ’85??) where he was just trying to slam drop goals from anywhere..
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:03pm
      - Kimbo
        
        You are trying hard for a place on my pub quiz team, aren’t you! 😉
        
        Close, first test of 1984 in Christchurch (the one where Muldoon criticised Lange for allegedly pretending to try and find his seat when he was wandering with Mike Moore in front of the main stand crowd attracting attention to himself before kick off – the Snap Election campaign was underway at the time)
        
        …and Lescarboura had about 5 or 6 goes to win it for France in the last few minutes, easy attempts from less than 30 metres, the sort of stuff he had been banging over with ease in the 1983-84 Five Nations championship
        
        …and kept on missing. We won…10-9. So Lescarboura’s reputation as the new M’sieur le Drop (tell me who the original was without googling and you’re on the pub quiz team! 😉 )
        
        …went to the bottom quicker than the Rainbow Warrior! 😉
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:11pm
      - Longknives
        
        Jesus was Lange obscuring half the stand’s view??
        He would have been popular…
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:17pm
      - Longknives
        
        And sorry I can’t get there with the Drop Goal fella- Though my Dad told me about him when I was a kid. French Fullback…Pierre??
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:19pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Here it is. Was the days when you could drop a goal after receiving a pass from a free kick:
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8g78FONuRw
        
        Close, very close, but no cigar. If your dad tells you it was the 1961 French tourist Pierre Albaladejo (who was a flyhalf in the first instance, and only an occasional fullback) he is on my team! 😉
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:24pm
      - Longknives
        
        Sadly the old man is no longer available! (He sure knew his Rugby though- played to a very high level himself in the 60s and 70s)
        So I will just have to bide my time for that coveted spot on your Quiz Team it seems…(Maybe if Mikenmild calls in sick?)
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:28pm
      - RF
        
        Kimbo.
        
        Hat tip to you for reminding me about Lange & Moore walking in front of the Lancaster Park stand in 84.
        
        Bloody tossers.
        
        You are a Mine of information
        
        I salute you Sir.
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:27pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      The lack of evidence was likely because the victim was leaned on.
      
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      March 18, 2018 3:34pm
    - KiWombat
      
      Doesn’t a greasy sphincter count ?
      
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      March 18, 2018 3:43pm
- igm
  
  Why was his landlady not charged with aiding and abetting or obstruction of police in their investigation. Was it because of a person (unionist) now an MP, or direct intervention by senior MPs at the time?
  
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  March 18, 2018 4:52pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Why don’t you launch a private prosecution?
    
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    March 18, 2018 5:38pm
Manolo

The crooked hag will be soon using crutches:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5510711/Hillary-Clinton-hides-broken-wrist-shawl-custom-kurta.html

Hillary was seen in Jaipur on Thursday where she appeared to be adopting an out-of-sight and out-of-mind approach to her recent injury by wearing a kurta that had been customized to make one sleeve longer than other.
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March 18, 2018 4:24pm
Odakyu-sen

I forgot about St. Patrick’s Day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFk6Jk0b7H0

Any excuse for a party, in Harajuku–the part of Tokyo that sleeps even less than the rest of Tokyo…
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March 18, 2018 5:22pm
- niggly
  
  Omg – hop, skip, jumping cans of Guinness, samurai sword wielding warriors, bagpipes galore and lots of happy content Irish, Japanese and Americans – these guys sure know how to party!
  
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  March 18, 2018 5:32pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    The residents of Harajuku are famous for it.
    
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    March 18, 2018 5:41pm
Hugh Pavletich

DAISY (NO PARK) DENSE DEVELOPMENT: AN INSULT TO HOUSING AFFORDABILITY & POVERTY ALLEVIATIONL

… $NZ 530, 000 for this in 8.8 MEDIAN MULTIPLE AUCKLAND …

The Daisy apartments: why did we do it? … Mark Todd … The Spinoff

https://thespinoff.co.nz/auckland/18-03-2018/the-daisy-apartments-why-did-we-do-it/

The team behind the Daisy apartment building respond to the fury it unleashed from Mike Hosking. …

… Price points for apartments in Daisy averaged $530K, just 60% of the current REINZ median house price in Auckland. Why? In large part, because each apartment did not come with a $100k private underground carpark hewn from volcanic basalt, unleashing another vehicle per apartment onto Auckland’s already crowded streets. … read more via hyperlink above …
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… WHILE THE CURRENT MEDIAN PRICE IS $US 170,000 FOR TOWNHOUSE / CONDOMINIUMS IN 3.7 MEDIAN MULTIPLE HOUSTON …

HOUSTON ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS – LATEST MONTHLY REPORT

https://www.har.com/content/mls

… extract …

Townhouse/Condominium Update

Sales of townhomes and condominiums tumbled 5.1 percent in February, with a total of 466 units sold. The average price rose 2.0 percent to $210,887 while the median price increased 4.6 percent to $170,000. Inventory declined slightly year-over-year from a 3.7-months supply to 3.6 months.

… ECONOMIST RODNEY DICKENS EXPLAINS WHY AFFORDABLE DENSE DEVELOPMENT IS HOPELESS WHILE AUCKLAND FRINGES REMAIN STRANGLED …

Rodney Dickens says section prices are the key to solving the housing affordability problem, not higher density around transport hubs. He warns against force-feeding in areas that won’t deliver the intended outcome

https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/92556/rodney-dickens-says-section-prices-are-key-solving-housing-affordability-problem-not

… WGICH IS WHY NEW ZEALANDS NEW LABOUR GOVERNMENT IS ABOLISHING URBAN LIMITS AND BOND FINANCING INFRASTRUCTURE …

Housing – New Zealand Labour Party

http://www.labour.org.nz/housing

… extract …

Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out

Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds. … read more via hyperlink above …
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March 18, 2018 5:34pm
- Nostradamus
  
  It’s best not to blog and wank simultaneously, Hugh. The result can be a messy keyboard at your end, and a splattered Kiwiblog thread at our end. Think of the environment!
  
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  March 18, 2018 6:00pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Nostradamus ,
    
    there you go the profound and erudite thoughts of an alt right right KB poster
    
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    March 18, 2018 6:05pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      You’ve labelled me “alt-right” (apparently not a compliment) so I’ll respond in kind.
      
      Are you on the “watch list” at St Luke’s? Did you have any “extra” duties at church this morning?
      
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      March 18, 2018 6:26pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Nostradamus , a label that you should wear with honour and given too your limited range of Vocabulary
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:36pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        I sense your desperation!
        
        I use a wide range of words for a living – including many legal concepts that you wouldn’t understand.
        
        You, on the other hand, have previously told us (see All on Red’s comment above) that you have a limited range of (impulsive) responses when you see under-aged girls. By the way, was it the word “wank” in my comment to Hugh above that aroused you?
        
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        March 18, 2018 6:43pm
Odakyu-sen

I miss my Japanese street food.
Today, a craving for tai-yaki.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWs0q4Mnco8

(There’s even the famous tai-yaki song to go with it.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFND4ucL9c8
This brings back (false) memories of the good old days…
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March 18, 2018 5:58pm
- stephieboy
  
  And miss your yuletide KFC ?
  
  http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20161216-why-japan-celebrates-christmas-with-kfc
  
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  March 18, 2018 6:04pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Yes, I do (sniff…)
    
    (I feel a generalization coming on…)
    
    The Japanese, like the French, will get emotional and cry over food.
    (For the British, they cry over sports and animals.) Food, not so much.
    
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    March 18, 2018 6:06pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Yep. If the British knew how bad their food is compared to the rest of the world, they would! 😉
      
      My grandmother had the English way of cooking vegetables – boil it until you get rid of all the dangerous green stuff! 😉
      
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      March 18, 2018 6:49pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        There is always a place for good roast beef and Yorkshire pud, or roast lamb and tatties Kimbo. The Japanese do have a little more finesse in their presentation over the British toad in the hole.
        
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        March 18, 2018 7:21pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Why are British main dishes named after animal curiosities, and the deserts after communicable diseases?
        
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        March 18, 2018 8:48pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Given the standards of traditional British cooking, that’s what they first tasted like? ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:03pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Now, now Odakyu-sen.
        Perhaps you would like to explain to the gaijin how to determine if it is a slab of kouya dofu (高野豆腐）or a wettex sponge in your bowl of soup.
        
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        March 18, 2018 9:11pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        I sympathise with the over boiled vegetables.
        My own mother seems to think brassicas should turn orange when cooked.
        I though I hated vegetables until I went flatting and got cooking instruction from my flatmates who had higher expectations.
        
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        March 18, 2018 10:39pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Are they sweet or savoury O-s? Whatever, my taste buds are watering. ?
  
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  March 18, 2018 6:44pm
  - nasska
    
    Beware the Squid! 🙂
    
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    March 18, 2018 7:06pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    The fish-shaped tai-yaki are traditionally sweet. The filling is usually the dark red-brown bean paste (an-ko) or a sweetened kumara-like mash.
    
    Japanese sweets don’t tend to be flavored by fruit like in the West, but often by starchy bean or potato extracts.
    
    If you like steamed NZ kumara, you will probably like Japanese tai-yaki a lot.
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:58pm
Monique Watson

Oh Fuck. I just wasted energy on down-ticking Scott Chris.
And this is fucking awful:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12015270

(I’m a Ford Chick myself, but such cruelty to dogs. Awful)
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March 18, 2018 7:34pm
- nasska
  
  Being burnt alive is a pretty tough way for anything to die.
  
  Mind you, the Holy Catholic church had it down to a fine art during the Inquisition. They were dab hands at burning witches too & even nowadays they usually excuse everything easily.
  
  Maybe we’re getting upset over nothing.
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:02pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Feel free to mention the “Calvin burned Servetus at the stake in Geneva too” anecdote I brought to your attention recently, nasska. We Calvinists don’t want to feel left out when you are determined to paint off topic with such a broad brush. ?
    
    Bloody sad and nasty what happened to those dogs, though.
    
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    March 18, 2018 8:14pm
    - nasska
      
      ….”to paint off topic”….
      
      Bullshit! I was just trying to add context to Monique’s observations. Members of our Godsaturated society might be both Christians & patrons of the local RSPCA.
      
      It’s fair to point out that they could be experiencing moral conflict over the issue. 🙂
      
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      March 18, 2018 8:28pm
      - Kimbo
        
        I was trying to add context…Members of our Godsaturated society might be both Christians & patrons of the local RSPCA
        
        Yeah, nah. Worst stretch of credibility since Andrew Kirton tried to tell us his entire concern was for the victims at the Youth Labour Camp! ?
        
        But as I’ve said to my new friend, Rodney Randall, congratulations on sticking to your talking point! ?
        
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        March 18, 2018 8:46pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Folks are still burning ~~witches~~ women in PNG.
        http://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/people/witch-hunting-in-papua-new-guinea.aspx
        
        It’s a wonder some of the misogynists haven’t thought of reviving sati for celebrating widows.
        https://unbeatenknight.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/the-war-on-sati-is-it-still-a-social-evil/
        
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        March 18, 2018 8:48pm
  - GoVege
    
    They chose burning at the stake for the most painful death possible.
    In medieval Europe anyone could point a finger at someone, even youngsters, and they were sentenced to burn.
    For a fee (of course) relations of the accused could sometimes arrange for a less painful death.
    In England, they burned women at the stake up to 1800 for killing their husband or boss.
    It was called “petty treason” or something because the man was head of the house.
    Just to let the girls know who was boss, presumably…. 🙂
    
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    March 18, 2018 10:36pm
- GoVege
  
  Disgusting savages.
  Hope these sadists get the harshest possible sentence.
  
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  March 18, 2018 10:28pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11427370/Islamic-radicals-at-the-heart-of-Whitehall.html

The same woman who expressed her disgust the other day, in the house, towards Lord Pearson for having a polite chat with Tommy Robinson.

No surprises there. Give em a inch…

Speakers corner should be interesting!
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March 18, 2018 8:40pm
- stephieboy
  
  RR, can you outline reasons why you take a nutter like Brittany Pettibone seriously ? ,
  
  https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Brittany_Pettibone
  
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  March 18, 2018 8:45pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    You’ll be pleased to know Ralph that she is also on “Extremist Watch” listed as an Alt-Righter!
    
    She is actually that extreme! Check her out videos online sometime, and you will discover what I mean.
    
    She is right up there with the Breiviks of the world and the hate preachers/clerics who call for death of infidels, apostates, homosexuals and those that criticise Islam.
    
    Antifa have her listed as a White Supremacist and a Nazi.
    
    In fact according to Antifa, all of them are White Supremacists, Racists and of course Islamophobes:)
    
    I have no particular interest in Pettibone. She is easy on the eye:) It is her partner Martin Sellner, whose speech I am interested in hearing.
    
    Southern has done some outstanding work exposing the violent antics of Anarchists aka Antifa. She has, at times, naively put her life in danger exposing their thuggery reporting in the field. She has been assaulted several times for merely reporting on events from the sidewalk. Such is the courtesy Antifa extend to those they choose not to debate with!
    
    Tommy despite his arguably unsavoury past, has done some hard yards, gained some kudos via an Oxford speech and becomes increasingly educated on political system in the UK. He ultimately calls a spade a spade. He has been a champion when it comes to exposing the lengths the British Govt will go to suppressing those that dare to publicly criticise Islam, especially its infiltration into the British political sphere.
    
    I fear his days are numbered. He is a thorn in the side of the the open borders advocates.
    
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    March 18, 2018 9:25pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      Tommy, may well, have developed an invincibility shield.
      Is he ‘protected’?
      
      Time will tell…
      
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      March 18, 2018 9:38pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Rodney Randall,anyone who believes in Pizzagate like Pettibone needs to visit their Shrink
      
      “She is right up there with the Breiviks of the world and the hate preachers/clerics who call for death of infidels, apostates, homosexuals and those that criticise Islam.”
      
      The Anders Brevik who massacred 70 or so young Noweigans !
      
      Your off your tree !
      
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      March 18, 2018 10:17pm
Monique Watson

Little slow tonight, right? I think the poll post killed the mojo (sorry DPF) 🙂
My nine year old just flat out asked me if the sex was painful. He’s good at puzzles so I told him to apply reason.
If it was painful would I be a parent of five kids?
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March 18, 2018 9:30pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Greens have lost influence in South Australia elections…seem to have internal conflicts.
http://joannenova.com.au/2018/03/australian-elections-left-green-lose-weatherills-revolutionary-battery-powered-state-runs-out-of-power/
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March 18, 2018 10:39pm
Rachael Membery

Is it a coincidence that the alleged poisoning of Russian Nationals in Britain occurred just before Russia’s elections?

Perhaps someone was trying to interfere in their elections? It would seem to be an odd campaign strategy.
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March 19, 2018 7:03am
- mikenmild
  
  It is not at all surprising that Putin should publicly intimidate his enemies at election time.
  Not that he needed any help to win, as no candidate that might come within cooee are permitted to run for election.
  If you are implying that it was a deception plan by the West, for example, you would have to imagine a scenario in which poisoning their own agent and innocent bystanders would have been considered a way to dampen Putin’s electoral support.
  Only someone like Trump, Putin’s best ~~client~~ pal, or followers with similarly paranoid mindsets could come up with something like that.
  
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  March 19, 2018 7:12am
Manolo

Lovely lady:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nauerts-meteoric-rise-takes-state-department-surprise-121040252.html
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