General Debate 14 March 2018

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KiWombat

Wouldn’t it be nice if you could rely on the mainstream media for at least SOME real news.

This week we have seen our MSM simply reacting to events unfolded on social media. The MSM is not leading the charge – they are not being pro-active, they are simply responding to reports unfolding on social media.

The first day of the Labour Sex/Alcohol scandal the MSM buried the story. The second day they spun the story, but still hid their heads in the sand and only addressed minor elements of the story.

Now the people have spoken. The people are discovering the facts, but not from the MSM. And they wonder why sales are falling, why their jobs are becoming scarce, and why news media are no longer seen as credible.

Perhaps there is a wake up call for them this week. There is a gap in the market for a true investigative journalist who is prepared to tread on some toes, and push the mamby pamby aside to reveal real news.

Donald Trump has been trumpeting “fake news” for some time now. Looks very much like we have the same problem here in NZ.

The MSM needs to begin to earn our respect, they have obfuscated for far too long.

Wake up MSM – and do your job !
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March 14, 2018 8:00am
- mikenmild
  
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  Have you checked out the Stuff series on Huntly?
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:04am
  - cmm
    
    Things really must have got bad if they’ve had to dust off mm.
    
    Whenever mm comes to KB you know they’ve called up their A team spin-meisters.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:22am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Remember ztev is serving a ban.
      
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      March 14, 2018 8:25am
      - 4077th
        
        As is Gabby 🙂
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:32am
  - Sarkozygroupie
    
    Seriously??
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:33am
  - KiWombat
    
    squirrel
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:50am
    - Sarkozygroupie
      
      Not just any squirrel, KiWombat.
      
      Behold the Lesser Spotted Huntly Squirrel.
      
      A beast so rare it has never been seen.
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:22am
- mikenmild
  
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  Also, the top headline of Stuff is Trump’s sacking of Tillerson. Is there a more important story today?
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:14am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Yeah Mike, kids getting getting drunk and sexually harassed. FFS.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:17am
    - mikenmild
      
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      Are we to expect a minimum of four Kiwiblog posts and thousands of comments on every such incident? Also, there are two stories on that this morning on Stuff.
      FFS.
      
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      March 14, 2018 8:20am
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Yes.
        
        When any organisation, a school, sports team, chess club or political party holds an event where this occurs it deserves this level of attention.
        
        I’m actually surprised to see you try and down play this. Do you not have any integrity?
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:28am
      - mandk
        
        You clearly believe that sexual assault of kids is trivial.
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:28am
      - Sarkozygroupie
        
        MM
        
        This is nothing compared to the months of manufactured left wing hysteria over a ponytail.
        
        A ponytail.
        
        LoL.
        
        Got to learn to pick your battles better.
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:29am
      - KiWombat
        
        You’d better post a link MM.
        
        As expected, the stories you refer to don’t feature in the headlines or the top 20 !
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:43am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Mildew, ffs, let’s see alleged sexual assaults, possible provision of alchohl to minors etc. Given what has been in the social & MSM suggests laws were broken.
        Yet what we have witnessed since 8.00am yesterday, is CoL hacks, spin meisters & social media obfiscators such as yourself working hard to close the story down & throw out as many squirrels to divert attention.
        Yet 3 years ago, you & your mates couldn’t shut up about a pony tail.
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:45am
      - Kimbo
        
        Is there a more important story today?…Are we to expect a minimum of four Kiwiblog posts and thousands of comments on every such incident?
        
        Ok, mikey, so you got your answer. Don’t stand in front of and ask questions of the crowd of angry villagers, with torches and pitch forks in their hands, marching up the hill to Dracula’s castle! ?
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:01am
      - thedavincimode
        
        Really didn’t think that you were the type to buy into this deflection bullshit over something like this milky – more the ztev/gabby/ross001 style I would have thought. A cover-up at the highest level about sexual assault on minors and your best effort is to take the piss.
        
        If that really is your opinion, you could have got away with it if you had at least put this into the same context as Key pulling a pony tail or the Russell McVeagh business. But somehow you seem to think that not only the incidents themselves, but the subsequent cover-up, is less newsworthy than Key and Russell McVeagh.
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:32am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Kimbo,
        Yes the blog has answered.
        Given the lengths the Labour Party & it’s support network have gone to in order to suppress the story or to see that potential matters of criminality have been addressed in “an open & transparent manner”, is it any wonder there has been some “strong” comments on this sit?
        Also, it was Cindy herself, during her media blitz who have “absolute assurances”. So, what are we to make of what the PM said and the actions of the Labour Party & it’s supporters. As far as I am aware, the only Labour Party commentator who has condemned the Labour Party & the party hierarchy has been Chris Trotter.
        Therefore, it appears the message to Kiwis is, it’s ok when the Labour Party does it, but the rest of you will end up on JAG’s register.
        
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        March 14, 2018 12:41pm
- VicParking
  
  The Prime Minister even in her first interview lied yet the MSM just ignored it. First it was “This was the first I have heard of it” but as the interview went on she let it slip out a number of times she actually new about it. Her use of the royal “we”, a method of deflecting responsibility, is fast becoming a poison chalice.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:19am
  - Simon
    
    Yep time for Princess to step up and to start firing people. Its intolerable for those in power to cover up children being sexually assaulted.
    
    If she doesnt act then she becomes part of the problem.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:24am
    - igm
      
      She is no better than the rest of the compilation of social misfits that constitute current Labour MPs. They are, and always have been, top heavy with weirdos and social failures . . . and they will never improve.
      
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      March 14, 2018 8:34am
      - stephieboy
        
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        igm, are we to believe that you represent a fine example of social success ?
        
        In what ways ?
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:09am
    - RF
      
      Any fresh BS from the leader of Labours sex booze party ?
      
      She will be waiting for instructions from the H twins.
      
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      March 14, 2018 8:57am
      - stephieboy
        
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        RF , I guess that labour summer school leaders might have felt that as 16v year olds can legally marry then they can drink with adults .
        
        BTW tell us when you had your first social drink ?
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:11am
      - Lance
        
        Of course stephieboy, you think sexual assault is no biggie
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:07am
      - CHFR1
        
        BTW tell us when you had your first social drink ?
        
        I was 16 actually but it didn’t come with a sexual assault and I am disgusted by your insinuation but maybe it says a lot about your social groups that you think this is in any way acceptable.
        
        As an aside I was a Young Nat in the late 80’s (the youngest in Wellington at the time) and despite the booze fueled parties we had there was nothing like this going on, and if anything like this happened the peroertrator would have been ejected after an ass kicking.
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:35am
      - RF
        
        OK Stephieboy if you must know….
        
        First drink was 13 years old and the same for first
        sexual grope.
        
        Nice girl my age who lived next door.
        
        She flogged a bottle of McWilliams sweet sherry
        from her father’s liquor cabinet and we went down to the sand hills.
        
        Drank the bottle, fumbled and spewed.
        
        Have never tasted sweet sherry since.
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:36am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        @Stephieboy – was given wine with meals from about the age of three. First time got seriously drunk was 22. But what has this got to do with groping (sexual assault) and illegally drinking at a Labour Party event?
        
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        March 14, 2018 7:28pm
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    VicParking, can you explain why you think Ardern knew about this before hearing about it from the media?
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:48am
    - KiWombat
      
      NK – She had been to these camps herself. We have seen tweets:-
      
      “this happens every year – they are doing it to my friends”
      
      Probably has first hand knowledge !
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:52am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      Ok I understand they go there to learn how to stick their hand in your back pocket, and alcohol affects motor skills, so not a good combination. That’s just general knowledge. I was hoping for something more specific.
      
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      March 14, 2018 11:25am
- Harkman
  
  The lefties over at the Standard reckon that this is some sort of media beat-up by the evil right-wingers at the Dominion. But ‘right wingers’ and ‘Dominion’ in the same sentence that’s an oxymoron. They’re so deranged. Classic.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:38am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    The deranged sycophants are the only ones still allowed to post there.
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:15am
- suzieq
  
  But it was the MSM that reported this in the first place. What’s your point?
  
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  March 14, 2018 3:21pm
noskire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX45hc0aZt0
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March 14, 2018 8:00am
- NZpatriot
  
  Hi Noskire.
  May I S uggest you put at least the title of he video on your YouTube links? That would make it easier for people to decide if they want to watch or if it’s safe for work etc.
  Cheers mate.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:51am
  - noskire
    
    Very good point mate: For those that might be interested: Yes, Prime Minister – The need to know. Safe for work.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:56am
    - noskire
      
      I’m used to posting on Discord which will grab all the meta-data. Sorry man.
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:16am
- KiWombat
  
  Message to all you Cabinet Ministers out there:-
  
  If you think your boss is stupid, just remember that you wouldn’t have a job if she was any smarter !
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:24am
cmm

Dear JAG

You picked up the Minister Of Parking portfolio with some feelz based soundbites about no road toll is acceptable.

Since you have picked up the portfolio there has been a massive (statistically significant) upswing in the road toll.

The year to date road toll is 392 vs 322 this time last year. Anything over about 340 is statistically significant.

Predictions are that this year will get to over 400 – back to 2007 levels when Autie Hellen drove the bus.

So, if you are actually doing something about this then please stop. Whatever you are doing is making things worse.

Rather just go off and be a good mum to your coming baby. That will at least do something positive for someone.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/road-deaths/toll.html
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March 14, 2018 8:04am
- mikenmild
  
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  Your premise appears to be that the Minister of Transport is the direct cause of rising or falling raod tolls. Please elaborate.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:06am
  - graham
    
    Julie Anne Genter is on record as blaming the National Government
    
    The new Government minister in charge of road safety is appalled at the rising road toll in recent years.
    
    “It’s absolutely tragic and it’s unacceptable that the previous National Government chose not to make safety a top priority in transport funding and policy. This new Government will,” Julie Anne Genter said.
    
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/police-dismayed-and-frustrated-horror-2017-road-toll-continues-rise
    
    So one presumes that if she blames the previous Government for the road toll, then she as part of this Government will accept responsibility.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:17am
    - mikenmild
      
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      Okay, so if she is the first opposition MP to ever politicise road safety, then she must accept the responsibility for reversing that trend.
      What do you suggest she does next?
      
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      March 14, 2018 8:22am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        I suggest she reduces the speed limit to 15 km/h.
        That should fix it.
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:26am
      - Right of way is Way of Right
        
        All motor vehicles must be preceded by a man waving a red flag as well!
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:05am
      - hullkiwi
        
        She could start by not talking about or giving green lights to councils for the diversion of funds away from road improvements & road safety to cycling schemes & other transport modes.
        JAG is a case of decisions based on dogma as opposed to imperial needs.p
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:08am
      - stephieboy
        
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        Right of way is Way of Right,
        
        You mean Republican Red ?
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:14am
      - KiWombat
        
        Don’t think – it might sprain your brain !
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:54am
      - Duxton
        
        She can resign.
        
        She criticised her predecessor, and it has got worse on her watch.
        
        Resign.
        Resign now, before she unable to fly on international flights.
        Go home to the US, and have her bastard child there.
        And don’t come back.
        
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        March 14, 2018 11:47am
      - cmm
        
        Everyone gets to only use their cars once a year… except for Cabinet Beemers of course!
        
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        March 14, 2018 6:19pm
    - tavita
      
      The road toll in New Zealand and most developed countries had been declining year on year until the middle of this decade, but is now increasing. This being an international trend, it may not be the result of anything the National government has done and it probably wont be influenced by anything Labour does. Its more likely that there is an underlying upwward trend with increased car ownership and use that has been off-set until recently by the advent of air-bags and other safety features. However it is the case that our road safety policy is heavily influenced by what they do in other countries, particularly Australia. I would not be surprised to find this anal emphasis on minor excess over the speed limit is a policy that is being promoted in the international conferences our government advisors attend. If that is the case, it is time to realise that it is not working in New Zealand – it is not working anywhere. Maybe we should go back to policing unsafe driving rather than unlawful driving. Or at least accept that it doesnt reduce the road toll and stop wasting police time.
      
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      March 14, 2018 8:58am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Well, the Police and politicians are always very quick to claim credit for any reductions in the road toll….and even quicker to disavow any responsibility for increases.
    
    In case you don’t understand, it is an attack on their hypocrisy, OK ?
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:53am
- holysheet
  
  That will at least do something posidive for ~~someone~~ everyone.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:09am
- VicParking
  
  Golfers are getting better because there were more ‘holes in one’ last year than ever. No, there are just more people playing golf and golfers are playing more. When you look at car accidents and compare them to previous years you have to take into account the number of cars on the road. Just from 2000 to 2015 car numbers increased 44%. (2.7m to 3.9m). Also mileage per car has risen.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:36am
  - igm
    
    And the number of foreign drivers has increased threefold. Come on MSM, give us a real breakdown on the percentage of new arrivals involved in prangs with international licences?
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:38am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      And the number of 10 year old used import heavy SUVs has increased about 10 fold. And they are being driven as though they are low-slung cars when they actually handle and stop like trucks.
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:05am
      - igm
        
        I sometimes drive a small sporty japper and SUVs in particular, are a pain in the arse, because if one stops at an intersection and a SUV pulls alongside, it is impossible to see if anything is coming, also if they park in the first parking space on a corner they block one’s view also. I hate the bloody things.
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:52am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    I had three holes in one in a single round last weekend. It was amazing. Then the wife got a hole in one on the 18th as well, and she won a free round of mini golf the next time we’re in Taupo!
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:07am
    - fernglas
      
      Is that you Kim Jong Il?
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:59am
stigie

The Labour Pardy are more than happy to put their hands in everyones pockets, now they want to put their hands down your pants.
What a sordid bunch of rogues and deviants !~
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March 14, 2018 8:04am
- VicParking
  
  They have just moved from your back pocket to your front pocket. They heard that more people were now putting their money in a ‘Fanny pack’.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:39am
- Harkman
  
  ” a sordid bunch of rogues and deviants”
  
  Michael j. Savage, Colin Moyle, Darren Hughes, Chris Carter, Georgina Beyer. And the list goes on…..
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:05am
  - igm
    
    They have always been a party for dyks, faggits, and leeches.
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:53am
holysheet

Last week Cindy went on another school visit. She asked the class, “Who can give me an example of a tragedy?” One little boy raised his hand and said, “If I got hit by a car, that would be a tragedy.” Cindy said, “No. That would be an accident.” Then a little girl raised her hand and said, “If a school bus full of children went over a cliff, that would be a tragedy.” And Cindy said, “No. That would be a great loss.” Then one boy raised his hand and said, “If you and all the people in your govt died horrible deaths, that would be a tragedy.” And Cindy said, “Yes, that would be a tragedy. Can you tell me why?” And the boy said, “Because it wouldn’t be an accident, and it wouldn’t be a great loss.”
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March 14, 2018 8:05am
- mikenmild
  
  The old jokes are truly the best.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:08am
  - Ed Snack
    
    And that is a very old joke !
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:54am
- tf78
  
  500 upticks for you!
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:12am
Inandout

Look at Kirton performing and you witness a fumbling and naive excuse for a Party official. He encapsulated all that is wrong with this cobbled together band of political amateurs that attempt to run this country. And all our Winston can do is call for an inquiry at a foreign country, not into NZ’s scandals, oh no.
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March 14, 2018 8:07am
- mikenmild
  
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  Which scandals, and what form of inquiry do you desire?
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:09am
  - Inandout
    
    A real genuine Winston inquiry, into Labour feely camps.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:14am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Are you filling in for Stephieboy today. Mikenmild? 🙂
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:15am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      “Which scandals, and what form of inquiry do you desire?” (genuine mikenmild)
      
      “”Which scandals, and what form of inquiry do you desire ?” (fake mikenmild)
      
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      March 14, 2018 8:53am
    - stephieboy
      
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      mm. , is doing a fine job challenging and lampooning some really silly take “the cake posts” from the looney right .
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:20am
      - KiWombat
        
        Goodmorning SB
        
        I just wanted you to know that somebody cares !
        
        It’s not me, but somebody does !
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:01am
      - Jack5
        
        Fade away, fade away, fade away Stephies…
        
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        March 14, 2018 11:15am
  - starboard
    
    MM..pompous little twat from since forever. Liarbor pardy stooge.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:37am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Another irony alert from the looney right !
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:21am
      - VicParking
        
        Morning Stephie. The goat is beeping the horn, off you go ??
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:29am
      - Sarkozygroupie
        
        Did you sleep in this morning Stephie?
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:43am
      - KiWombat
        
        You’ve got to give the littleboy points for following his heart.
        
        One day he’ll bring his brain along for the ride !
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:02am
- noskire
  
  Slow down. Finish your cornflakes and we will have a conversation about this.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:12am
- Harkman
  
  Kirton will be gone within two months, it will already be decided, they just don’t want him resigning right now.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:42am
  - Sarkozygroupie
    
    Perhaps you could run a sweepstake!
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:46am
    - Harkman
      
      Perhaps, but will I have to be the banker and pay out? (It would hurt me if the date was 3, 4, 6 months time after some phoney investigation miraculously clears everyone involved)
      
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      March 14, 2018 10:51am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Who the dickens could they replace him with?
    
    I am not aware that anyone has been groomed and is waiting in the wings.
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:14am
    - alwyn
      
      “I am not aware that anyone has been groomed”.
      I thought that was what the Summer Camps were for.
      
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      March 14, 2018 11:35am
Paulus

How sad it is now revealed that New Zealand is led by a weak and incompetent Prime Minister.
Has Tubby Woods resigned yet?
Imagine in Helen Clark/Heather Simpson’s days (or John Key) if a Minister had transgressed in not advising immediately of an impending serious SNAFU.
That Minister’s resignation would have been accepted by now.
That Cindy has not learned from her Internships that to be at the top of any organisation requires a ruthlessness in all respects.
She has failed at the first, but not the last, hurdle.
There appear to be many in the pipeline – so stop blaming others and take real responsibility.
Andy Little is still smiling – he will be back soon as Labour leader as designated by the Unions who control the party.
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March 14, 2018 8:09am
- noskire
  
  I think you’re on to something Paulus. All is not well amongst the bolsheviks.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:16am
  - stephieboy
    
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    “All is not well amongst the bolsheviks ??
    
    You can see what the looney right are not taken seriously at all by Joe and Jane Public .
    
    Thought of heading a revolution Red October 1917 style ?
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:23am
    - noskire
      
      Do you even English?
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:37am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        ? lol 😉
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:09am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      In 2008 Taxinda was the President of the International Union of Socialist Youth. She has admitted to not changing her viewpoints since that time.
      
      Labour is now led by that woman.
      
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      March 14, 2018 1:13pm
- VicParking
  
  Hear no evil, See no evil and I wont have to speak no lies.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:40am
  - RF
    
    Frau Flick (Clark) had a drawer where she kept letters of resignations from her ministers. If anyone stuffed up out came the letter with a please explain warning. It worked.
    
    The new leader of the Labour sex booze party should try this.
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:10am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Nobody is mentioning the drugs. I’ll betcha boots there were drugs circulating as well.
      
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      March 14, 2018 1:43pm
      - Deadly pony
        
        Let’s do this!
        
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        March 14, 2018 3:13pm
    - Paulus
      
      She has not got the balls to do this, which is what any competent leader would do.
      
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      March 14, 2018 1:48pm
- marcw
  
  Not an apologist for Wood in ANY way, but look at the facts as we know them so far:
  
  1. She was contacted by a victim last week, and immediately contacts Kirton.
  2. Kirton assures her all is under control, and that the victims are being assisted professionally.
  3. Wood is reassured that the victims are all safe and that all appropriate steps have been taken by this Party leader.
  4. Ardern is out of the country on her latest junket dolling out taxpayer lollies.
  
  So, she has contacted the top Party official, has been reassured, and the boss is overseas on a charm offensive, along with the Deputy PM.
  
  What would you have done?
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:49am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    I dunno, taken out an insurance policy against being thrown under a bus perhaps?
    
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    March 14, 2018 11:56am
  - Paulus
    
    Tell the b…….. y Prime Minister anyway – incompetent Wooden Minister who should resign.
    It is not going away soon.
    
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    March 14, 2018 1:50pm
- Piniwi
  
  But Paulus the question now looming larger is how many skeletons are in the cupboard? Already we have heard of two previous naughty antics at previous camps. What else have they been covering up??
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:14pm
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Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/links-14-march-2018/#comment-3067803

IS THE NEW ZEALAND LABOUR LED GOVERNMENT LIKELY TO FAIL WITH HOUSING ?

Kiwibuild likely to add only 9,000 homes over four years | Kiwiblog

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/kiwibuild_likely_to_add_only_9000_homes_over_four_years.html

Stuff reports:

The Government’s KiwiBuild programme could add as few as 9200 extra properties to New Zealand’s housing stock over the next four years, an economist says…. read more via hyperlink above …
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Rodney Dickens says section prices are the key to solving the housing affordability problem, not higher density around transport hubs. He warns against force-feeding in areas that won’t deliver the intended outcome … Interest Co NZ

https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/92556/rodney-dickens-says-section-prices-are-key-solving-housing-affordability-problem-not

By Rodney Dickens*

Maybe reflecting vested interests and complacency, National’s housing policies did nothing to solve the affordability problem.

In the case of Auckland this is evidenced by section prices having increased 72% since the first tranche of Special Housing Areas was approved in 2013.

Labour is adopting a broader and more hands-on approach to addressing the housing affordability problem including proposing some policies that have the potential to address the most pressing problem: excessive section prices. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey … Media Release | Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1801/S00070/demographia-international-housing-affordability-survey.htm

… concluding …

… New Zealand global leader restoring housing affordability …

The co-authors of this Survey, Wendell Cox and Hugh Pavletich, have short commentaries within the Introduction section.

Within his commentary, Wendell Cox outlines that the principal reason for concern about housing affordability, is its impact on the cost of living and therefore the standard of living.

New Zealander Hugh Pavletich briefly outlines the massive evolutionary political progress underway in his country, since the time of the release of the 2005 1st Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey ( full schedule accessible via http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org ).

Housing has been a major issue these past 4 elections.

A Labour-led government won the recent late 2017 election, with a comprehensive housing policy … that includes …

‘Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out

Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds.’

Labour has a proud tradition as the ‘Party of Reform’ in New Zealand.
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  AUSTRALIA … Banking royal commission: Whistleblower alleges cash for loans bribery ring at NAB – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
  
  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-13/banking-royal-commission-alleged-cash-for-loans-bribery-ring/9543280
  
  The banking royal commission has heard sensational allegations of a cash for loans bribery ring at National Australia Bank branches in western Sydney as the first round of public hearings kicked off. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  NAB’s unbelievable “liar loan” scammers – MacroBusiness Australia
  
  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/nabs-unbelievable-liar-loan-scammers/
  
  Via the ABC:
  
  The National Australia Bank has been criticised by the banking royal commission for not disclosing fraudulent behaviour by its bankers and third parties to the corporate regulator within the legal deadline. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  Disrupters will benefit from Kenneth Haynes Royal Commission … AFR (behind paywall)
  
  http://www.afr.com/brand/chanticleer/disrupters-will-benefit-from-kenneth-haynes-royal-commission-20180313-h0xffn
  
  The Hayne royal commission’s first day of public hearings revealed that Commissioner Kenneth Hayne does not suffer fools gladly, Commonwealth Bank of Australia does not know how to play the banking inquiry game and all of the egregious behaviour in consumer lending is a drop in the ocean when compared to the mammoth volumes of loans processed by the major banks. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  ABC 7.30 Report does ‘liar loans’ and the interest-only time bomb – MacroBusiness
  
  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/abc-7-30-report-liar-loans-interest-time-bomb/
  
  ABC’s The Business does liar loans – MacroBusiness Australia
  
  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/abcs-business-irresponsible-mortgage-lending/
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:13am
  - noskire
    
    Hugh, do you flat with …whoar? Penny is looking for a room as well.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:20am
    - stephieboy
      
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      noskier , there you are a reflective and deep in thought post from a looney righter !
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:26am
      - VicParking
        
        Stephie and this from a looney Lefty.
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:31am
      - noskire
        
        How do they pay you stephie? – a good fisting at the end of your shift, free tickets to Labour Band Camp?
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:39am
      - starboard
        
        Are you and mm still virgins shariaboy?
        Thought so.
        
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        March 14, 2018 11:00am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      LIKE IRELAND (3.5 TIMES) AND THE UK (4.5 TIMES) LOOMING DEBT TO INCOME (DTI) RESTRICTIONS FOR NEW ZEALAND TOO ? …
      
      Home lending restrictions now ‘part of the furniture’, outgoing RBNZ head says | Stuff.co.nz
      
      https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/102226563/outgoing-reserve-bank-head-says-lvrs-are-set-to-become-part-of-the-furniture
      
      Months after taking steps to ease lending rules, a top Reserve Bank official has warned loan to value ratios (LVRs) and other proposed restrictions could become part of the “furniture”.
      
      Grant Spencer, who after spending most of his career in the Reserve Bank retires at the end of this month, delivered a speech on Tuesday which also called for the bank to be able to add a debt to income (DTI) or other debt servicing instrument to its toolkit. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      March 14, 2018 12:51pm
  - VicParking
    
    Pavlova has to comment on his own postings these days.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:42am
    - KiWombat
      
      VP – No matter how smart you are you can never convince somebody stupid that they are stupid !
      
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      March 14, 2018 10:06am
- tf78
  
  Hugh,
  You do realize all that happened under LABOUR mayors don’t you.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:16am
- Poppa
  
  What year will they start Hugh? 2020?
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:16am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
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    Do make a point of reading and viewing the extensive material I have posted above guys.
    
    There are truly massive commercial and political pressures building here.
    
    It is all extremely serious.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:22am
    - Nostradamus
      
      *Burp* … Demographia survey … Hugh Pavletich … *Fart*
      
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      March 14, 2018 8:29am
      - starboard
        
        ‘Demographia’…lol, sounds like a filthy porn site. You old sifter Hugh.
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:40am
      - stephieboy
        
        Nostradamus and Starboard , etc there you are examples of “erudite” ,” reasoning” and the “Knowledgeable” in all things Urban planning and housing affordability .
        
        Summed up ” fart ” “filthy porn “
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:35am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        Do you feel the need to butt in (goat joke) on discussions?
        
        By the way, I don’t think it’s a good idea for you to mention porn. You’re the first (and so far only) person to post a hardcore porn link on Kiwiblog. DPF wasn’t impressed with you!
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:01am
      - Nostradamus
        
        To the 2 losers who downticked my 10.01 am comment: Stephieboy posted a hardcore porn link on Kiwiblog.
        
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        March 14, 2018 5:43pm
    - VicParking
      
      Yawn.. we all know what Labour Mayors and their Labour councils Fk up. From Auckland to Whanganui.
      
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      March 14, 2018 8:44am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
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        … in case you want more to read … I almost forgot about Ireland ! …
        
        AUSTRALIA: ABC’s The Business does liar loans – MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/abcs-business-irresponsible-mortgage-lending/
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        … Pavletich comment on thread … the Irish experience …
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/abcs-business-irresponsible-mortgage-lending/#comment-3060351
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:52am
      - starboard
        
        Gee Hugh..your posts have had an srse kicking this morn. Will you ever learn?
        
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        March 14, 2018 11:03am
      - alwyn
        
        @starboard.
        Why do people seem to not like him?
        I realise he is rather repetitive and the only thing he seems to say is “Hidden due to low comment rating” but if it turns him on why complain about it?
        
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        March 14, 2018 11:38am
      - Paulus
        
        Auckland to Invercargill !!!!!
        
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        March 14, 2018 1:51pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Alwyn … The Tories are very touchy about housing.
        
        It was in the main housing non – performance that lost them the last election.
        
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        March 14, 2018 2:25pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Do make a point of reading and viewing the extensive material I have posted above guys
      
      Hugh, whatever else we may validly criticise you for here on Kiwiblog, a lack of optimism sure isn’t one of ‘em! ?
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:09am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
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        Kimbo … after 9 years of constant deceit, lying and incompetence (refer GONE GONE GOING section http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org for a sample) … one can only be optimistic following the changes last September / October.
        
        It is such a shame my fellow Tories can talk the talk but seem incapable of walking the walk.
        
        Why ?
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:36am
      - Kimbo
        
        Kimbo …after 9 years of constant deceit, lying and incompetence…
        
        Sorry, Hugh, but as per Swifty’s ball-bustingly amusing summation of your posts, all I heard was
        
        “It puts the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose” ?
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:53am
      - Swifty
        
        Yes, it will, Precious, won’t it? It will get the hose!
        
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        March 14, 2018 2:47pm
    - stephieboy
      
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      Hugh Pavletich , you need yo understand you are dealing with a bunch of irrational loons who claim to be pretend knowledgeable Urban Planners !
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:29am
    - stephieboy
      
      Nostradamus ,
      
      not porn links just Ivanka Trump Nudie poses which must of made Prudes like Andrei and you etc Faint
      
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      March 14, 2018 3:19pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        not porn links just Ivanka Trump Nudie poses
        
        Don’t tell lies: here’s your comment.
        
        which must of made Prudes like Andrei and you etc Faint
        
        Nice try at a deflection, but no, I think your porn link says more about you than me.
        
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        March 14, 2018 5:46pm
infused

I was banned on TheStandard yesterday for discussing some truths to the idiot Tracey over there about men who are raped. According to her, it doesn’t happen.

Today, there is a big thread on Reddit about it. Interesting read: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/844rlm/serious_men_of_reddit_who_have_been_raped_by/
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March 14, 2018 8:13am
- Muttonbird
  
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  Dry your eyes.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:21am
  - infused
    
    Go fuck yourself _b
    
    You’re the reason all this man hating pc bullshit has taken off.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:23am
    - Muttonbird
      
      Are you saying you’ve been raped by a woman? By a man? Which was it? Think hard…
      
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      March 14, 2018 7:27pm
  - JibberJabber
    
    WoW, true colours from the apologists from the pedo Party.
    Did Jacinda(George Washington)Ardern sign off on that amazing example of hypocrisy?
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:59am
  - Sarkozygroupie
    
    Exhibit Number 1:
    
    The caring face of Socialism.
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:51am
    - G152
      
      Well you have to admit Liebor do keep in touch with their youth groups
      
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      March 14, 2018 10:28am
- stephieboy
  
  infused , ZZZZZZZ,,,!
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:36am
- alwyn
  
  You must remember that Tracey is the reincarnation of Queen Victoria. It is said that the reason that homosexual behaviour by women was never illegal in Britain was that, according to Queen Victoria “it doesn’t happen”.
  Tracey is merely extending the scope of the argument.
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:43am
- Classic Liberal
  
  @infused: painful stories. In some men were extremely drunk and unconscious, only to wake up finding that a woman they don’t want is ‘riding’ them, no consent, possible risk of STDs or even pregnancy. So women in those rapes were exploiting the fact that a male can get an erection without even being conscious or consenting.
  
  Other experiences involved young boys being molested by adult women.
  
  Bloody hell, tell the whole world that the Standard banned you for saying these rapes happen.
  
  NO rape, NO sexual assault is acceptable!
  
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  March 14, 2018 1:36pm
noskire

Wow, downtickers are on over-time this morning. Still, if you’re on strike you need your coin from somewhere.
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March 14, 2018 8:19am
- VicParking
  
  Wow the trolls are out in force today. I hope the bridges wont fall down. Seems its all hands on deck to attack the drunken, down the pants Camp.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:48am
  - G152
    
    Hate to think of them losing their grasp
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:28am
- Ed Snack
  
  Some comments just INVITE a downtick ! Of course I wouldn’t do that, but…;
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:58am
  - stephieboy
    
    Ed Snack , such as this enlightening contribution ?,
    
    Nostradamus
    
    *Burp* … Demographia survey … Hugh Pavletich … *Fart
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:38am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      I’ll respond in kind.
      
      Your previous contributions to Kiwiblog have highlighted the need to keep you awsy – far awsy – from young girls at shopping malls!
      
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      March 14, 2018 10:07am
oldpark

The alleged Lie-bour party sex camp . Obviously masquerading as a holiday summer camp.
Lest we forget the lies and denials are just a re-run of the March 11 2011 denials when a naked youth was seen running from the house of the woman known as Annette King.
The whole scandal was kept quiet by King and Goff until it was exposed.
A Lie-bour Party person by the name of Darren Hughes was in the allegations of an illegal sexual act on a young man.
Seems he was not charged by the police because he was “innocent” of claims against him.
Hughes was fast tracked out of NZ by the Labour Party and was last seen lurking around London.
Rumour has it now that the dust has settled he will be making a reappearence back in NZs political circles.
To think that the Lie-bour Party are still running alleged alcohol and any thing goes questionable summer camps open to illicit sexual actions by invited peadophiles ,appears they have learnt nothing from the Darren Hughes allegations when a completely nude youth was seen running away from the house owned by Annette King,in which Hughes was a boarder.
To hear “Commie Chic” Comrade Ardern defend the defensible and play it down, is an indictment of her position as PM, and even wonder why she was selected by the other amoral, creep Peters.
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March 14, 2018 8:19am
- noskire
  
  There is a big poof party in Christchurch this week – I bet Darren will be here.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:25am
  - igm
    
    How bloody disgusting, hope a pile of radical Sharia boys gate crash.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:48am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      I’m always pained when so-called ‘feminists’ and homosexuals defend islam. But I would never wish sharia law on them. I just desperately wish they would wake up to the truth of islamist violence.
      
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      March 14, 2018 1:19pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    We have roving Kiwiblog reporters in Christchurch to give us the sordid details, Noskire. We’ll be among the first to be informed when a naked man runs down the street!
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:48am
    - noskire
      
      They will need more than a can of RedBull to stay up for the14-hour fist fest.
      
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      March 14, 2018 9:01am
      - Longknives
        
        14 hours of Fisting?
        Christ you’d have an arse like a Wizard’s Sleeve wouldn’t you?
        
        I hope the Christchurch Council/Labour Party have provided plenty of Adult Diapers…
        
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        March 14, 2018 9:38am
- lifesgood
  
  What bothers me is that the naked man seen running from the house never laid a complaint. Why? He has let a predator and sexual offender off the hook and put other men in danger.
  
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  March 14, 2018 12:05pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Pressure?
    Wellington is a small village.
    You watch whose feet you step on if you want to work in certain jobs.
    
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    March 14, 2018 12:09pm
Longknives

The Prime Minister is under immense pressure over the Labour Sex Scandal Cover-up!
How will she react?

TAB Odds-
Release ultrasound photos of the baby $1.80
Announce Engagement $1.80
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March 14, 2018 8:21am
- noskire
  
  $.45 ultrasound will reveal the image of the prophet Helen.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:26am
  - stephieboy
    
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    nosier , you need to learn not to laugh at you own weak jokes !
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:41am
- Harkman
  
  It’s a dead certainty that Cindy and Clarkey will be on the cover of a woman’s mag next time I’m at the supermarket.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:48am
- stephieboy
  
  Long knives ,
  
  And why not ?
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:39am
Happychappy

Stuart Nash Police Minister the person who should be having something to say on the Sexual Assault at a young Labour outing Three Weeks ago instead tries take the wind out of the Labours lies by featuring Labours desire to crack down on the criminal element of the motorcycle gangs that have been formed from the deportees returning from Australia. Whils’t this is necessary and reasonably urgent they have been sitting on their backsides doing nothing about it for months since taking power and as soon as a problem appears and air needs to be taken out of it as it is a sexual assault from within the Labour circles they rush out a Labour crime busters Policy agains’t the same people they accused National of doing nothing to help them.
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March 14, 2018 8:22am
- waikatogirl
  
  Bet the cops just hold another talkfest about dealing with those Aussie biker gangs. The gangs will gain in strength and become a huge problem with growing cash from their criminal activities funding their legal fight against “harassment” from the police and justice. It’s going to be another limp, wet bus ticket attempt with the public of NZ stuck in the middle.
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:00am
  - fernglas
    
    It’s in the too hard basket. The minute they start to pick on gangs, they will have to go after the Mob and Black Power, and there are too many Maori voters with affiliations to them. The legislation around Organised Criminal Groups has been judicially watered down to the point of impotence. The gangs run the meth trade, and if you believe what you read in the paper, it is a huge problem that successive Governments have ignored in their obsession with cannabis and party drugs. Let’s see if Nash can do any better than his predecessors.
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:05am
    - waikatogirl
      
      If the govt cleaned out the gangs so they no longer exist Liarbor might get even more votes from those they save from gang harassment, burglaries and bashings. I’m guessing gang members and their associates/whanau aren’t big on their civic duties such as making the effort to enrol and vote.
      
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      March 14, 2018 11:41am
- KKKKatee
  
  Where are the 12 Labour and Green MP’s who walked out of Parliament claiming John Key accused Andrew Little of backing rapists? I’m not hearing anything from these weirdos in support of these teenagers who were sexually assaulted at the Labour Party brainwashing weekend. Now, ironically, some of these women claim to be survivors of sexual abuse. So ladies – it’s ok when one of your own does it then? Your silence is deafening, ladies. Also, where are Gharamahn and Swarbrick? You two seem to be first out the gates to start screeching when something offends your senses.
  
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  March 14, 2018 1:06pm
Humble Capitalist

Kirton thanks for enlightening us on ZB this morning. In future when filling out a consent form for the kids to go on camp I will make a special note – `I don’t want to be informed if my son/daughter is indecently assaulted when in your care as I am not an expert in this field. If this happens please dont do anything about it and contact some “expert advice” on how to handle it a couple of weeks later.’
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March 14, 2018 8:23am
- VicParking
  
  PLease tick below which alcoholic drink you approve you Child to drink.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:51am
Poppa

Mike Hosking gave the Labour Party boss a good thrashing this morning.

It is high time someone in the media did it, & he pulled it off brilliantly
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March 14, 2018 8:25am
- noskire
  
  Might have to listen to that. Will post when the link is up.
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:32am
- lifesgood
  
  Go you good man!
  
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  March 14, 2018 12:07pm
noskire

Breaking: One of the teens in the Labour “scandal” has contacted Police.
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March 14, 2018 8:51am
brett68

Cameron Slater must either have the memory of a sieve or thinks his readers are fucking idiots

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/03/now-we-know-why-bishops-snapchat-issues-were-leaked/#more-369206

At the time Slater was yelling from the rooftops that this was a hit job led by the Simon Bridges faction and was ridiculing anyone who said it was orchestrated by Labour.

Now the narrative is

The hit job was a weapon of mass distraction to try and protect them from the coming bad news of the alleged sexual assaults at their own camps.

It is pretty shameless, but that is what political parties do when facing a scandal: they roll out some dirt on an opposing MP so people can say, “Oh look, they are all as bad as each other.”

Slater once again shows his complete lack of credibility.
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March 14, 2018 9:01am
- noskire
  
  Yup, a shame. Hope he sticks with the meds, honestly.
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:08am
- brett68
  
  Sorry, not Simon Bridges, Bill English 🙄
  
  https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/02/bishop-victim-blue-blue-attack/
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:08am
- Poppa
  
  I think from memory he was blaming Bill English as he did for most things
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:15am
- dime
  
  lol has anyone reminded him of that? and been banned?
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:25am
- infused
  
  He really is a tool.
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:28am
  - noskire
    
    No, a tool has at least one use.
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:43am
- VicParking
  
  He went goat shooting on the weekend. It seems SB lets him still handle a gun.
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:35am
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    He should take stephie with him
    
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    March 14, 2018 11:19am
- hullkiwi
  
  Streuth, give the man some marks for not being original. I alluded yesterday in the discussion “They didn’t even tell the parents” that the timing of the Bishop story seemed coincidental and that we could now see that it had been a squirrel attention diversion operation. Albeit a failed one, because it backfired as the purpose of the story at the time was not evident.
  Given that Blubber features has come out with this gem 24 hours after I suggested it, I sure as he’ll don’t want to be compared in the same category as Blubber fool.
  
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  March 14, 2018 2:08pm
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Nothing like some sexual transgressions connected to the Labour Party to bring out the self righteous hysteria notably absent on numerous other occasions when someone else is involved.
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March 14, 2018 9:08am
- Nev.
  
  Yeah, where is Morrissey Breen? Conspicuously absent methinks!
  This is the sort of thing he loves to get his fingers into
  Nev.
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:18am
  - lifesgood
    
    Eeeeew!
    
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    March 14, 2018 12:08pm
EAD_TWO

Rabbi Abraham Cooper writing for “right -wing” Fox News warning Whites that expressing that “it’s OK to be White” is a sign of destructive HATE

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/06/digital-terrorism-in-2018-generation-z-has-arrived.html

“Extremists in the Alt-Right movement reject the rules laid out by social media companies and others to curb online hate. The U.S.-based extremists are recasting neo-Nazism, xenophobia, Anti-Semitism and white supremacism with a new vocabulary (e.g. “It’s OK to Be White,” “Stop White Genocide”). An entire subculture of hate is taking shape online ranging from Pepe the Frog’s icon to gaming apps to t-shirts—all using insiders’ vocabulary.”

How tone-deaf, how lacking in empathy can you get? Because something deep within even the most cucked, comatose White will be aroused by a Jew claiming that “It’s OK to Be White” and “Stop White Genocide” represent a ‘sub-culture of hate’.

The reader comments surviving the censors’ beady eye (remember this is Fox News, where grovelling to the Tribe is mandatory) bear this out. “Your media, Hollywood, banking system, corporate and government control, and education system absolutely hammers us for the last 25 years, and we cannot meekly say “it’s okay to be white”?” was not an untypical response.

People are noticing.
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March 14, 2018 9:13am
- EAD_TWO
  
  http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2018/03/with-enemies-like-this.html?m=0
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:18am
  - dave_c_
    
    EAD_TWO – One gets the impression that the number of downticks is directly proportional to the ignorance of KB contributors in matters that are not immediately local to them.
    
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    March 14, 2018 4:07pm
- Kimbo
  
  Fox News, where grovelling to the Tribe is mandatory
  
  The Tribe? Fox News is a shill for…the Boston Red Sox?! Forget the uncovering of an international Jewish conspiracy, if Yankees supporters find out there is a clandestine cabal pulling the strings of international banking and politics to benefit the Red Sox there will be an uprising. Rupert Murdoch will be dragged from his palatial residence, frog marched down to the Bronx and tarred and feathered. ?
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:23am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Good ol Kimbo – when the article can’t be refuted, he reverts to Saul Alinksys #1 rule in his treatise on how to bring forth Communism “Rules for Radicals”
    
    #1 “Humor is essential, for through humor much is accepted that would have been rejected if presented seriously.”
    
    This is a change from his and Milkmaids favourite Alinksy tactic – isolate, personalise and attack
    
    #2 Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.”
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:13am
    - Kimbo
      
      I find that amusing coming from a guy who goose steps in here, and purports to initiate discussion in “General Debate” who, of his own admission employs the rhetorical strategy, “never admit you are wrong, or yield an inch”.
      
      Oh, and I think you’ll find that I’m not the one here doing the (Jew) bait and switch. While the humour was a bonus, my post was not “reverting” to anything, much less failing to “refute”. Instead, It rejected the premise of your alleged Jewish conspiracy upon which your latest effort, like every one before it rests.
      
      The fact that didn’t register confirms you are an ideologue, with neither willingness nor ability with which to question and critique your primary assumption.
      
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      March 14, 2018 10:24am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Nothing I present on here rests on anything as I “goose step” (there you go again?) around Kiwiblog.
        
        I simply share with readers news from around the world and let them draw their own conclusions. Never once have you ever addressed anything I have ever presented.
        
        You’re like the boy who cried ~~wolf~~ “global warming denier”/”racist” once too often. You can only keep avoiding the point so many times before people wonder if you’re trying to hide something.?
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:48am
      - Kimbo
        
        I simply share with readers…
        
        I’ll let you have that shill of an emphatic adverb, “simply” for free. So, to be clear no denial that your strategy is “never admit you are wrong, never yield an inch”? ?
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:54am
      - Kimbo
        
        …and a guy who purports to share the (((news)))) whines “unfair” and “crying wolf” when he is described as doing a “goose step”?!
        
        Can we please have a more robust and manly version of Nazi? Kiwiblog deserves better. ?
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:58am
      - Kimbo
        
        Never once have you ever addressed anything I have ever presented
        
        Not so. As per your assertion yesterday on GD that for Germany World War II was a preemptive war. But what you’ve never ever addressed is the challenge I’ve issued to you, and other conspiracy proponents and ideologues such as Scott and UglyTruth. Before I give you the time of day and start to contemplate seriously your theories and their premises…how about you earn the right to that hearing, and tell me first what are the mental hygiene tests for potential falsifiability to which you have subjected your own theory?
        
        And at that point, as per your self-admitted “never admit you are wrong, never yield an inch” ~~debating~~ proselytising strategy, you invariably (justified adverb) melt away like a snow cone in the sun.
        
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        March 14, 2018 11:10am
    - Kimbo
      
      …and also why you squeal like a hurt little bitch, “nasty Jewish Bolsheviks are using the goys to pick on me for Jew baiting!” ?
      
      Fuck you are a whiny little coward. ?
      
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      March 14, 2018 10:34am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        I think Kimbo is cracking up.
        
        Another meltdown on the way??
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:50am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Good on you, Kimbo, for even bothering with this antisemitic twit! I suppose just downticking isn’t enough sometimes.
        
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        March 14, 2018 1:46pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Any comments on the words of the Rabbi “Classic Liberal” or are you just happy to make a mockery of your lofty self awarded moniker with your Pavlovian reflexes?
        
        Ostrich Head meet sand❗
        
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        March 14, 2018 5:04pm
Kimbo

No matter what one thinks of Rex Tillerson’s departure, Donald Trump sure seems determined to reinforce the point that everyone in the executive branch of the United States Government “serves at the pleasure of the President”! ?
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March 14, 2018 9:14am
- Inandout
  
  Obama had the pleasure of surrounding himself with yes men types.
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:26am
  - Kimbo
    
    Irrespective of what one thinks of either Trump or Obama (and I’m making no comment on the competence or lack thereof of either, just as I didn’t in my prior post),
    
    …how does observing that Trump, as is his prerogative, firing yet another member of his staff, cabinet, or an exexuctive agency employee
    
    …segue into the assertion that Obama was the one who surrounded himself with yes men?
    
    President Donald Trump, the political, social and cultural Rorschach’s Test for our time! ?
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:33am
- MCos
  
  The US now has no Secretary of State, no Ambassador to South Korea. A couple of other top level positions concerning North Korea & Asia are also vacant.
  Fortunately for America they have a President who probably knows more than enough to run rings around Kim Jung Un, after he’s decided which is the best of the wall prototypes to keep out the murderers and rapists.
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:34am
  - Kimbo
    
    To be fair, and even though he used his then-National Security Advisor, Henry Kissinger to run errands in the opening to China, Richard Nixon in his first term as POTUS largely sidelined his Secretary of State Bill Rogers, and ran his own foreign affairs. But then Nixon always was bored by domestic affairs, including “some rube in Scratchamatoo, Nebraska griping about the price of orange juice”. ?
    
    And when it came to presidential micro managing, no one will beat Jimmy Carter. ?
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:44am
  - gravedodger
    
    That’s bullshit McCos, Rex Tillerson will serve until March 30th giving time for his nominated successor to be confirmed by the Senate for an orderly transfer.
    If that fails then Deputy Sec State John Sullivan will assume the role.
    Fake News alive and well
    
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    March 14, 2018 1:36pm
kowtow

Well done Notional , you caved to the Maoris and attacked private property rights, more like a Labour or Green policy.

‘New regulations governing tobacco packaging come into force today, a move an anti-smoking lobby group says is a vital step towards the goal of New Zealand being smokefree by 2025.
From today, cigarettes and other tobacco products can only be sold in generic plain brown and green packaging – brand and product names are now in a standard colour, position, font size and style.’

So at the same time some wowsers want a smoke free Aotearoa , the other mob want to destroy brains by legalising cannabis.

Only in Aotearoa.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/tobacco-packaging-plain-today
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March 14, 2018 9:20am
- dime
  
  what the fuck!
  
  a massive attack on capitalism!
  
  i feel like taking up smoking out of spite.
  
  assholes
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:27am
  - MCos
    
    Go for it.
    Do your bit for capitalism!
    
    And fill the Government coffers at the same time.
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:03am
Maggy Wassilieff

Pete George looks at the surge of purges over at the Standard as they try to ignore/shut down discussion over Labour’s Summer Camp of sex abuse and harassment.
https://yournz.org/2018/03/14/diversion-censorship-over-sexual-assault-issues/
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March 14, 2018 9:26am
- Jack5
  
  Meanwhile, on Kiwiblog, Morrissey Breen, who is loudly compiling a compendium of international and local groping incidents, is silent about Labour’s groping sex camp.
  
  C’mon Morrissey, shut down both the radios you are listening to, and talk …
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:55am
- Colville
  
  Maggy.
  I saw the bannings yesterday… I wondered how many from here had stepped over there to have a laugh and been chopped by the worlds greatest sysop.
  
  lprent seemed to justify the sexual assults by saying because the age of consent in NZ is 16 its ok for this pervert to attack a 16 yr old.
  Maybe lprent should google the meaning of “consent” ?
  
  If I wasnt banned already I would have been yesterday… for pointing out the above 🙂
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:20am
  - Paulus
    
    Wasn’t one of the children actually under 16 years of age ?
    
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    March 14, 2018 1:58pm
kowtow

Speaking of National betrayals , yesterday on RNZ National 9 to Noon was….

“….The police have re-opened the investigation into the break-ins targetting a Christchurch academic, who has linked them to Chinese spies. Dr Anne-Marie Brady, who has published articles on China’s global influence, believes Beijing was behind a break-in at her home last month and at her office last last year. The Prime Minister and Minister for Security and Intelligence Jacinda Ardern has said she is seeking further information about the burglaries. Dr Brady has recently appeared before the Australian Parliament’s intelligence and security committee considering a range of measures to combat foreign influence. She tells Kathryn Ryan New Zealand needs to follow suit.”

In the interview she talks of Chinese influence with the former gubmint.

Notionalistas might want to listen in to see how their elites have sold out to the Chicoms.

PS Jordan Peterson is on the program at 1120am today.
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March 14, 2018 9:26am
Humble Capitalist

Expect a big diversion story from Peters in the coming days…
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March 14, 2018 9:44am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Entering Pike? No pun intended
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:24am
  - igm
    
    Make sure he remembers his smokes, and spare lighter.
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:34am
    - geoff3012
      
      and his gas bottle…..for the bbq
      
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      March 14, 2018 11:29am
stephieboy

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The revolving door lunacy of the President continues as he re runs The Apprentice for the umpteenth time and fires Rex Tillerson ,

US President Donald Trump has fired Secretary of State Rex Tillerson via Twitter, naming CIA Director Mike Pompeo as his replacement.

Mr Tillerson’s spokesman said he only learned he was out of a job when he saw the president’s tweet thanking him for his service as top US diplomat.

The former ExxonMobil chief had a series of public rifts with the White House since he was appointed last year.
Mr Trump also named Gina Haspel to become the CIA’s first female director
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43388723

I suppose Rex is paying the price for accurately and perceptively describing the President a “”
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March 14, 2018 9:46am
- Inandout
  
  stephie, the Left will be happy Tillerson is gone.
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/us/politics/rex-tillerson-secretary-of-state-confirmed.html
  
  Mike Pompeo is a public servant, exactly what the Left want.
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:22am
Dave Mann

I see that Russian Exile Syndrome has claimed another (deserving?) victim.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/13/russian-exile-nikolai-glushkov-found-dead-at-his-london-home?espv

Putin must be pissing himself laughing at the UK. Russia certainly employs a somewhat direct approach when it comes to legal niceties 😀
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March 14, 2018 9:54am
- stephieboy
  
  Dave Mann,
  
  (deserving?)
  
  Expand on that please ?
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:56am
- kowtow
  
  Britain may feel it has a right to host the dross and treacherous of the world , but they better be prepared for the consequences.
  
  Hosting these people , be they Russian traitors or Muslim Pakistani rape mobs brings a real danger to the average British citizen.
  
  All well and good for western gubmints to pat themselves on their backs about how nice they are ,to not nice people , but there is a price to pay, and the British elites don’t have to pay it, ordinary people , as usual do.
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:04am
  - Philview
    
    We need to be concerned that we are on the verge of shifting in the same direction in New Zealand. Hipkins wants to ditch Boards of Trustees in schools and says the days of competition between schools for students are finished. He is clearly advocating the sort of cultural marxism that is destroying the UK. He wants to remove the input of parents in schools and we should be really concerned by this but as usual the media is spinning left wing propaganda.
    
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    March 14, 2018 11:34am
    - Paulus
      
      I understand that Hipkins Mother who is donkey deep in the Education sector and a strong Unionist.
      So he is only doing what Mummy says.
      
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      March 14, 2018 2:00pm
  - stephieboy
    
    kowtow ,
    
    Russian traitors or Muslim Pakistani rape mobs ????
    
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    March 14, 2018 2:08pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Sorry to upset you, and point out something uncomfortable. This morning, Moaning Report was reporting an item that aired last night on ITV Good Morning. It was an interview with a KGB defector who claimed he was the subject of an attempted poisoning by a KGB hit squad. He claimed he was hit by a poison dust & lost 30kg over a 6 month period.
    
    What it means Russian is led by someone who would rather keep fighting the cold war instead of moving Russia forward.
    
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    March 14, 2018 4:41pm
- Philview
  
  The media in New Zealand should be discussing if there are any within our own Coalition Government to Russia.
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:28am
Huevon

The question on everyone’s mind…did our young filly become a mare after being plied with liquor at one of Labour’s sex parties?
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March 14, 2018 10:00am
- KiWombat
  
  There was a young CLicker who mastered
  The way to get our Cindy plastered
  While in that condition
  He got on with the mission
  
  And VOILA – the Nation’s “First Bastard“!
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:12am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Not funny. Just been reading Reddit comments on men being raped when plastered. Not funny either.
    
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    March 14, 2018 2:06pm
  - stephieboy
    
    you could add into the mix John Bank’s bastard son ,
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11958970
    
    Banksei got there long time ago !
    
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    March 14, 2018 2:11pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Not on my mind, she was probably too busy DJ’ing.
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:14am
cubit

Where is the Minister for Womens Affairs at this time along with all of the other strident feminists of the left. All mising in action.

Very quick to voice solidarity and concern over Me too and It’s time but not very interested in events at home particularly in their own hen house.
Perhaps just a bit too close to home
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March 14, 2018 10:03am
- alwyn
  
  “Where is the Minister for Womens Affairs”.
  Be fair to her. She is on holiday at the UN in New York for a couple of weeks. If that Green ring-in MP GG is correct, and yes it it unlikely that she is telling the truth, Genter will be finding out all the finer details of how to carry out a bit of sexual harassment.
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:54am
- Gravelroad
  
  Min of Women’s Affairs top brass have been on a box ticking (sorry for any innuendo created) tour of the peasants in the regions.
  Some women from round here, albeit reluctantly but in good faith, went along to meet them with a few issues to discuss. They said it was a waste of time as the Ministry staff was disinterested and didn’t even take any notes.
  Unless you are in a University or UN Women’s group women don’t count for much with the Min of WA.
  
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  March 14, 2018 3:34pm
publicwatchdog

Are Kiwibloggers aware of this Auckland Transport (AT) proposal to invest a further $635 million for a further 150 kms of Auckland (region) cycleways – in order to increase the number of cycling commuters from 1-4%?

What about the 99% of commuters who currently aren’t cyclists?

What about OUR lawful rights to be consulted in a proper way?

Is this proposed spend of $635 million the best possible spend of public money?

When Auckland beaches are increasingly unswimmable?

Seen THIS?

https://at.govt.nz/media/1974191/item114-auckland-cycling-programme-for-investmentfinal.pdf

CONFIDENTIAL
Cycling Programme Business Case

Recommendation

That the Board:

i. Endorse the recommended strategic direction for future investment in cycling in Auckland, the funding of which will be subject to prioritisation through the Integrated Transport Programme (ITP).
Executive summary

1 There is a significant opportunity for cycling to play a more substantial role in contributing to a more effective transport system for Auckland.

During the programme period, transport demands will continue to grow strongly alongside population and employment across the region, placing increasing pressure on congested networks and, in particular, on access to the city centre.

2 We analysed a range of options to identify which package would most effectively deliver the benefits and objectives of the programme, carried out economic modelling and conducted extensive engagement to arrive at a preferred programme of investment.

3 This programme business case recommends an investment of $635m in cycling over the period 2018-2028 to most effectively meet the objectives of the programme.

This would provide benefits of $1.9 to $4.6 for every $1 invested, and would deliver 150km of new cycleways linking to key activity centres and maximising access to public transport.

The investment would see an increase in modal share of trips to work for cycling from 1 per cent to 4 per cent across the Auckland region.
…
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March 14, 2018 10:07am
- fernglas
  
  For once, Penny, you have raised an issue that a lot of people here will agree with. Have you tried Whaleoil? He doesn’t seem to be a fan of cyclists.
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:10am
  - publicwatchdog
    
    Issue by issue … 🙂
    
    Penny
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:29am
    - Colville
      
      Have they sold your house yet?
      
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      March 14, 2018 11:22am
  - kowtow
    
    Same in Daft Dunners , very few cycle for their work commute ( a lot do for recreation , but not among the trucks and mongs ). The bill for this fantasy is breathtaking.
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/dcc/rates-must-rise-maintain-momentum-mayor-says
    
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    March 14, 2018 11:58am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Just need pubic showers.
      
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      March 14, 2018 2:26pm
- KiWombat
  
  I wonder where they came up with the 1% figure ?
  
  Suspect that is a little generous. Last time I was on an Auckland motorway I closely watched the cycleway for signs of activity. Whilst stuck in traffic for 25 minutes or so I counted 18 – in peak hour !
  
  Meanwhile there were thousands of motor cars crawling along. I tend to feel 1% is a gross exaggeration !
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:17am
  - sooty
    
    Things must be hard at the moment for Labour. They have even dragged out Penny, for troll duties.
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:58am
- Harkman
  
  Penny, Penny, this actually wasn’t a waste of 9.3secs. The, “This would provide benefits of $1.9 to $4.6 for every $1 invested,” is a nonsense it is never greater than one, Keynesian multipliers don’t exist. If you think that Auckland is bad you should see Chch. But please though don’t move here, we already have Minto, one of his ilk is enough.
  
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  March 14, 2018 12:25pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    At least Chch is flat and not as large. A slight chance of a few more cyclists. Hilly, huge Auckland doesn’t have a chance, for all that money!
    
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    March 14, 2018 2:10pm
Sarkozygroupie

Unbelievable! Note the refernce to “we”.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/102245274/highranking-kiwi-diplomat-under-fire-for-telling-us-to-get-your-st-together
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March 14, 2018 10:09am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Winston did warn us that there were staffing issues at MFAT.
  Seems the St Mary’s Bay pensioner was right on this one.
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:38am
- Jack5
  
  The NZ ambassador in Washington, who converted to Islam when he was a young diplomat, will sort this out.
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:57am
  - alwyn
    
    Truly amazing what love will make you do isn’t it?
    Converting to Islam for crying out loud. I wonder if the religion has lasted. The marriage didn’t.
    
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    March 14, 2018 11:58am
    - mikenmild
      
      Has he not been sacked by the new government yet?
      
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      March 14, 2018 2:13pm
mandk

Imagine the carnage there would be if Israel ceased to exist:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/13/palestinian-prime-minister-survives-assassination-attempt-gaza/
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March 14, 2018 10:24am
- Inandout
  
  Here is a brilliant interview by Mark Levin with Benjamin Netanyahu. It seems Netanyahu had to drag Israel into the 21st century, getting rid of many regulations that were strangling production. Israel is now the world leader in technology and other income producing sources; sounds like the way the present US President is performing.
  
  http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Benjamin-Netanyahu/Iran-Iran-Iran-In-Fox-interview-Netanyahu-identifies-greatest-threat-to-Israel-544837
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:36am
Manolo

Why aren’t feminists delighted?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/us/politics/cia-deputy-director-gina-haspel-torture-thailand.html
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March 14, 2018 10:33am
MH

You all seem to be forgetting it is superannuate Gareth Morgan’s birthday. Hip Hip operation, hip hip hooray. Keep those cards and letters coming in folks esp the ones with ginga cats on the cover. Extra postpersons are on standby.
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March 14, 2018 10:37am
- Jack5
  
  While we’re on birthdays ….
  
  Rupert Murdoch turned 87 on Sunday.
  
  He’s kept open a few right-wing news channels.
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:41am
  - mikenmild
    
    Happy birthday, Rupert. I admire his ability to manipulate people.
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:45am
    - Jack5
      
      So only the Right wing media manipulate people, eh Milky?
      
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      March 14, 2018 11:07am
  - MCos
    
    Daniel Ellsberg is 87 in about three weeks.
    Now there’s a bloke who made a difference to history.
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:50am
    - Jack5
      
      Yes, Ellsberg helped America lose the Vietnam War.
      
      It probably wasn’t worth fighting to prop up the corrupt South Vietnamese regime, though the hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese who fled by boat might dispute that.
      
      Ellsberg highlighted an unwinnable war strategy. If America felt it had to fight in Vietnam, it should have gone for the head of the snake and invaded North Vietnam in a type of war where its technology and industrial superiority would have counted.
      
      What about China and Russia, the wishy washy ask. Well what about Nato when Putin grabbed Crimea? What about France and Germany when Hitler grabbed Czechoslovakia?
      
      I wonder whether America’s Vietnam veterans feel Ellsberg stabbed their country in the back.
      
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      March 14, 2018 11:05am
    - Kimbo
      
      @ Jack5
      
      No matter what one thinks of Ellsberg’s decision to leak the Pentagon Papers, he didn’t help “lose” the Vietnam War. Indeed, even in 1971 when the Pentagon papers were leaked, Richard Nixon wasn’t trying to “win” it. Instead, he was aiming for, and achieved what he described as “peace with honour”. It was the decision of the post-Watergate Congress that refused to to provide the South Vietnamese with armaments as per the terms of the January 1973 Paris Peace Accord that saw Thieu’s regime and unhappy country go down the gurgler.
      
      Whether the morality of Ellsberg’s timing was right (on balance, probably not, given how it undermined democratically-elected Nixon’s strategy to avoid a bug-out without at the very least getting Americans POWs returned),
      
      …nonetheless the American people who were expected to fight and die had a constitutional right to be kept informed by their government. And not lied to, such as when in 1964, President Lyndon Johnson in contrast to Republican Presidential candidate Barry Goldwater, said he was not going to send Americans boys 8,000 miles to die in a war that South Vietnamese boys should be fighting…when LBJ was planning at the time to do exactly that.
      
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      March 14, 2018 11:44am
      - mikenmild
        
        How about 1968, when Nixon conspired with the South Vietnmaese to sabotage the peace talks for electoral advantage?
        Worse than Watergate?
        
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        March 14, 2018 2:15pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ mikenmild
        
        Not sure Anna Chennault is a reliable source. And as per the lawyers who defended Ellsberg, no one was ever before prosecuted under the Espionage Act for publishing state documents, even during time of war because, like the Logan Act which Nixon is alleged to have breached in 1968, it is likely an unconstitutional restraint on freedom of speech.
        
        https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-15/logan-act-is-too-vague-to-prosecute-flynn-or-anyone
        
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        March 14, 2018 3:30pm
    - Kimbo
      
      @ Jack5
      
      If America felt it had to fight in Vietnam, it should have gone for the head of the snake and invaded North Vietnam in a type of war where its technology and industrial superiority would have counted.
      
      But the Americans never seriously contemplated doing that for fear it would draw in the Chinese, as in Korea in 1950 when MacArthur drew too near to the Yalu River/Chinese border.
      
      But that just highlighted how bad American intell and strategic analysis was. The “Communist World” – the USSR, Mao’s China, North Korea and North Vietnam was not a monolith strategising in unison the downfall of the West via the domino theory, but competing regimes suspicious and even hostile at times to one another. And due to China’s history of intervention and colonialism in Vietnam, they were the last people the Hanoi government wanted coming to their military aid in the form of large troop numbers!
      
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      March 14, 2018 11:53am
MH

In the meanTIME I have this vision of Donald Trump swinging on the Nuclear clock face like Harold Lloyd in the old silent movie Safety Last.
I know it won’t please everyone. It’s like Slim Pickens all over again. Trump seems to be blocking the swamp drains with the bodies of ex whitehouse appointees.
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March 14, 2018 10:48am
Philview

I can’t get past the way this Coalition Government has been so outspoken about ally Australia’s treatment of refugees but seems very mild in its concern about Russian behaviour in recent days. The MSM in particular has been running several Trump/Russia articles a day for a year or so but is not interested in discussing any Russian influence in NZ.
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March 14, 2018 11:22am
- Jack5
  
  Russian influence in NZ? Very little that I can see. NZ is the field of interest of Russia’s friend, China.
  
  Fonterra has been investing in a Russian joint venture, and the trade in NZ apples to Siberian Russia (Vladivostok), may still continue.
  
  NZ may for the second time be about to back off from a free trade deal with Russia, and that would be a shame.
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:41am
  - MH
    
    have you been tin hatted by all those voluptuous Russian male order women lurking on the side of Kiwiblog comments? Their subliminal message is quite clear. Don’t invade Russia in the winter. Putin on the Ritz. Beware bowler hatted men walking down the London embankment with sharp pointed umbrellas. I can feel my nervous gases already.
    
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    March 14, 2018 1:03pm
    - MH
      
      some of those chesty gals claim to know Trump and have gone all miserere over him. Some are the great great grand daughters of Lloyd George and some knew Don’s father.
      
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      March 14, 2018 4:18pm
Jack5

Someone above in the thread touched on the Pike River mine tragedy.

What’s the latest on the plan to re-enter the mine? Why the delay? To let the gas level seep down naturally? That might take a century or two.

If some good can come from the tragic loss of the miners, could it be the realisation of a coal-seam gas industry for the West Coast?

Coal-seam gas (CSG) is almost identical to other natural gas, but typically needs fracking. This technology has made America the world’s leading oil producer.

What couldn’t CSG do for our economy, which is almost flat by the most relevant measure, GDP per capita?
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March 14, 2018 11:31am
- rangitoto
  
  They have spent a few million to set up an office and employ staff to think about it for a year or two. They might even have a conversation.
  
  “What couldn’t CSG do for our economy, which is almost flat by the most relevant measure, GDP per capita?”
  
  Impossible. You have to think of the snails.
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:35am
- mandk
  
  Be fair, Jack5, even the CoL needs a bit of time to fritter away $23 million to conclude that safe re-entry to the mine cannot be guaranteed.
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:59am
  - waikatogirl
    
    It’s a $23m taxpayer pat on the head and an icecream (the West Coast office) to console the families. Doesn’t actually achieve anything except help pass time to get over their loss.
    
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    March 14, 2018 1:28pm
Rodney Randall

https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/973577187491221504

“We’re looking at millions of rapes of white and Sikh girls by Muslim men, only 222 of whom have been convicted since 2005. Can we talk about Islam without being accused of hate crime?”

Lord Pearson’s question deserved less than eight minutes of discussion in the Lords.
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March 14, 2018 11:56am
- stephieboy
  
  Millions of Rapes ???
  
  A tweet in response to the claim by Lord Pearson ,
  
  More
  Replying to @LeaveEUOfficial
  Helpline calls about rape crimes are up (2016-17), but the figure in total is 202,666, ie not “millions” even if only 50% were reported.
  I have been unable to find figures breaking crimes down by ethnicity of crimin
  
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  March 14, 2018 1:48pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    202,666
    
    phew that’s better.
    
    Bring more in please not enough rapes
    
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    March 14, 2018 7:44pm
BananaLlama

Whats the bet that in the coming years more and more revelations of sexual abuse inside the international left will be made apparent to the public.

Bill Clinton
Hollywood
Oxfam
NZ Labor Party
Calais Ra-Refugee camps

It will be worse than the Catholic church and proves the old adage right that those who preach the loudest are often the most guilty.
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March 14, 2018 12:47pm
- stephieboy
  
  Banana Llama , you forgot to add serial sex abuser / groper Donald Trump .
  
  Why ?
  
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  March 14, 2018 1:50pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Is Donald Trump inside the international left?
    
    If your answer is No, then that is why he has been left off the list.
    
    Basic Comprehension
    
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    March 14, 2018 2:11pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Did his long-term position as a Democrat count as membership of the ‘international left’
      
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      March 14, 2018 2:22pm
      - Kimbo
        
        George Will is emphatic Trump is of the left, and changed his voter registration from Republican (where it had been since 1964 when Barry Goldwater was the GOP standard bearer) to Unaffiliated as a result.
        
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        March 14, 2018 4:44pm
Manolo

It is rest-home time for the hag!
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hillary-clinton-tumbles-twice-walking-12179504

Hillary Clinton was filmed slipping twice as she tentatively walked down stairs during a visit to India.
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March 14, 2018 12:49pm
- kowtow
  
  Dodging snipers ? Again.
  
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  March 14, 2018 1:21pm
- howitis
  
  Perhaps she heard cows are sacred in India!
  Even old cows.
  
  That is the problem with walking down stairs when you are so slippery yourself!
  
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  March 14, 2018 3:06pm
kowtow

“It’s been six months since the #MeToo movement first took off. …….
…….The news that girls, some as young as 11, were drugged, beaten and raped by gangs of mainly Muslim, Asian-heritage men could have provided further fuel to campaigners……
…..But no. The abuse in Telford is estimated to have involved over 1,000 girls stretching over 40 years…….The very same newspapers that covered, at length and over many days, news that Kate Maltby’s knee may or may not have been touched by Damian Green or that Michael Fallon attempted to kiss Jane Merrick, were unable to muster up the same level of outrage for young women in Telford.

The lack of comment on the Telford abuse scandal exposes the hypocrisy at the heart of the #MeToo movement”

Or perhaps the Asian men accused of grooming, rape, drug-dealing, murder and paedophilia are simply the wrong kind of perpetrator. #MeToo prefers the accused to be powerful white men: think Harvey Weinstein or Conservative cabinet ministers. That abuse might have been carried out by Muslim men disturbs the carefully constructed, intersectional hierarchy and disrupts the narrative of patriarchy. Writers and campaigners are more concerned with potential racism and Islamophobia than with actual sexual assault.”

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/telford-girls-the-wrong-kind-of-victims/21217#.WqhiIehubIV

And mainstream political parties , the commentariat etc wonder why there is now a reaction among voters in Europe (and America)to their lack of action , to their collaboration , to their cowardice , to their complicity in the destruction of the west.
And they frame these concerned citizens as far right extremists , as red neck racists .They pass laws to silence dissent and meanwhile allow the Muslims to continue to flood in.

This is the era of Brexit and Trump and that democratic reaction from the real people is a great and good thing.
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March 14, 2018 12:56pm
- stephieboy
  
  Kowtow , we don’t here from Spiked and yourself about this major sex abuse scandal ,
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/uk/north-wales-care-home-scandal
  
  Nor this ,
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Plymouth_child_abuse_case
  
  and this ,
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile
  
  etc, etc
  
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  March 14, 2018 2:01pm
  - Manolo
    
    The stephieboy with limited reading capabilities is rostered today.
    Come on, tell your fellow Muslims to make an effort and teach you better!
    
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    March 14, 2018 2:05pm
    - KiWombat
      
      Just a load of ancient history. Fancy still dragging up Savile so long after he’s dead and buried !
      
      Clutching at straws if that’s the best you’ve got !
      
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      March 14, 2018 8:44pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Sorry stiffyboy, more important things to do than deal with your continuing fuckwittery.
    
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    March 14, 2018 8:35pm
Right of way is Way of Right

Just heard on the radio.

The Labour Party have shut down all Young Labour events until current investigations are complete, and all future Young Labour events will now not serve or allow alcohol.

That slamming sound you just heard, that was the door to an empty stable!
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March 14, 2018 1:36pm
- Poppa
  
  Hahaha yeah that will get the punters through the door
  
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  March 14, 2018 1:50pm
waripori

In case anyone is wondering , Democrat Conor Lamb has a 21.6% lead over Republican Saccone in early vote count in Pennsylvania 18. I cant find any commentary as to whether that is significant but if it was an NZ electorate you would say it is small Rural precincts reporting a small vote count which might favour Saccone. Watch with interest as this is a district Trump won by 20%.
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March 14, 2018 1:52pm
waripori

Lamb ahead by 8.2% with 45% counted. He could well win which will take some explaining by the GOP. There was a theory that Trump announced the Steel tarrifs just to help with this election.
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March 14, 2018 2:18pm
- mikenmild
  
  Even the steelworker vote would not help that sort of trend.
  
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  March 14, 2018 2:23pm
waripori

Lamb ahead 1.4% 87% in. Will be real close.
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March 14, 2018 2:47pm
- BananaLlama
  
  Recount in PA so much for the blue wave more like a poo fail.
  
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  March 14, 2018 3:26pm
  - CrazyIvan
    
    Still a very close result in a special election where the incumbent had won the last contested election by 28% of the vote – and won the last two elections with 100%.
    
    So more like a blue high tide, rather than a flood tide…
    
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    March 14, 2018 4:18pm
    - BananaLlama
      
      Democrats ran a Anti Abortion Anti Gun Control candidate and managed to tie. Good for them. I hope they run more pro 2A candidates and build a wall.
      
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      March 14, 2018 4:20pm
- virtualmark
  
  Any sane Republicans (admittedly a small set at the moment) must be very worried about what the recent special elections have been saying. November is almost certain to deliver the House of Reps to the Democrats.
  
  Trump’s whole history says that everything he touches turns to shit. And when you’re 72 why change the habits of a lifetime …
  
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  March 14, 2018 7:39pm
MH

time for Ardern to have another referendum on the red flag, or at least run it up the pole and see how many squirrels or possums will follow.
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March 14, 2018 4:25pm
- Kimbo
  
  That’s so last Century. “Start a conversation” is the way it’s done now, Comrade.
  
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  March 14, 2018 4:34pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kzkgd-GLrk&feature=youtu.be

UK bans Lauren Southern but parts its arse cheeks for returning IS Jihadis.

UK=Shithole
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March 14, 2018 4:52pm
- Longknives
  
  Insanity.
  
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  March 14, 2018 5:48pm
Humble Capitalist

Baz Soper going into bat for Labour again on ZB. He’s carrying on like he’s the president of the Labour Party
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March 14, 2018 4:56pm
- Gravelroad
  
  He probably will be shortly.
  
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  March 14, 2018 5:38pm
- niggly
  
  LMAO when Larry aggressively critiqued Barry’s commentary – poor Barry, probably not used to getting told off and blasted (by someone else other than his missus)!
  
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  March 14, 2018 6:41pm
Jack5

Labour is pressing ahead to double the number of refugees coming to NZ.

The Minister of Immigration, Iain Francis Lees-Galloway (initially called Iain Galloway) has confirmed this today, suggesting the refugees will be directed to Hawke’s Bay, where they can pick fruit.

(Presumably the rest of the year, they will be on the dole.)

No problem, but you can bet the United Nations leftists will draft only Muslims into NZ – from the Middle East and from Myanmar-Burma.

There might be 20 or 30 Christians added for publicity purposes.

We don’t want more Muslims in NZ.
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March 14, 2018 5:07pm
- Longknives
  
  If I was in charge I would open the ‘Immigration’ doors to all South African Farmers and their families.
  They would work hard, contribute to society and abide by our laws.
  But No- Instead we will get double the number of Somalian and Middle Eastern Muslim shitbags…
  Why are we (Western Civilisation) so hell-bent on self-destruction??
  
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  March 14, 2018 5:44pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2017/03/20/iraqs-christian-refugees-face-double-discrimination/
  
  Read this to get an idea how the UNHCR operates.
  
  Of course we will be getting Muslims.
  
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  March 14, 2018 5:56pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Didn’t you demand recently via a Facebook link on General Debate that it was the state’s obligation to protect you from the presence of religious practice (in particular halal-slaughtered meat), as it offended your atheist beliefs? So…how come you are reading, and favourably disseminating and linking to a religious publication like NZ Catholic
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/general_debate_2_march_2018.html
    
    Oh, that’s right, I forgot. At heart are a facist who wants the state to curb the otherwise legal religious practices pwith which you disagree and disapprove.
    
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    March 14, 2018 6:41pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      The Catholic publication provides an outstanding insight into the political organisation otherwise known as the UNHCR.
      
      What a marvellous document it is!
      
      “The UK-based Barnabas Fund, an international, interdenominational agency supporting persecuted Christians, has frequently raised concerns about discrimination against Christian refugees fleeing genocide.
      
      In a January 12, 2017, statement, it said: “Christians who have fled Iraq and Syria to nearby countries are largely ignored by the UN, with 97–99 per cent of those refugees selected for resettlement in the UK and USA being Muslims. Meanwhile those Christians who make it on their own to European countries such as Greece, Germany and Sweden are placed in refugee shelters where many are targeted by Islamists and are subjected to death threats and physical violence. At the moment there is little sign that Western countries will significantly alter their policies in either respect.”
      
      In an earlier statement (December 22, 2016), the Barnabas Fund accused the UNHCR of “institutional discrimination” in how it operates on the ground.”
      
      Kimbo do the Calvanists have any online documents revealing the true political agenda of the UNHCR?
      
      The Migration Compact is gonna be a beauty!
      
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      March 14, 2018 7:27pm
      - Kimbo
        
        So…no refutation, let alone denial you are, in effect a facist? You and EAD must get together, you have sooooo much in common. ?
        
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        March 14, 2018 7:33pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ-pZp1FQPE&list=FLRoTAzcOu-7zyULBZhEiYVg&index=228
        
        Philippe Lefebvre’s Entree improvisation. Dark and nasty:) Rolls into L’Esprit de Dieu repose sur moi. Perfect counterbalance
        
        Sublime!
        
        Just divine Kimbo!
        
        Hair raising!
        
        Enjoy
        
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        March 14, 2018 7:36pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Thanks. In the same spirit of generous sharing:
        
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FGS9QpI_VNQ
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:19pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      Of course I’m a fascist Kimbo!
      
      I can spell it correctly too!
      I’m a Nazi too!
      
      and a two spirit them/they gender fluid sky fairy!
      
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      March 14, 2018 7:37pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Sir, I am much chagrined by my clumsy ignorance, so I withdraw and apologise.
        
        You are a ~~facist~~ fascist.
        
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        March 14, 2018 7:41pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUY6-DpP700&index=131&list=FLRoTAzcOu-7zyULBZhEiYVg
      
      While we are on the church buzz Kimbo, here is Brahms’ “Ye now are sorrowful”: Robert Eaton, St Paul’s Cathedral 1977 (Barry Rose)
      
      The soloist that day was Robert Eaton, who died in the World Trade Centre, New York, on 11th September 2001 – one of the countless victims of the “9/11” attack.
      
      Undoubtably one of the best renditions ever.
      
      “That Sunday afternoon, in March 1977, Canon John Collins was due to preach the sermon, but having heard Robert sing, he got into the pulpit and simply said “I cannot possibly follow that – let’s all sing the last hymn”
      
      Enjoy!
      
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      March 14, 2018 7:52pm
      - Kimbo
        
        How the mighty have fallen! You call that a trolling trigger effort?! Even stephieboy could do better. Stay at home and next time and send your husband to do the job. ?
        
        In the meantime, just for you:
        
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qRWNXdIBE
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:06pm
- niggly
  
  So LabGreens (and NZF?) want an additional 75o refugees (to double the quota to 1500) per year. So assuming 3 in a family, 750/3=250 new rent/mortgage free houses will be required each year!
  
  Even if that’s rounded down to 200 houses (as presumably some families will have 4 members), where will even 200 additional new houses per year come from when we already have a housing shortage/crisis in the cities and regions?
  
  Umm exactly how many NEW houses are Labour building this year and will be ready? Wasn’t it zero or something?
  
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  March 14, 2018 6:31pm
  - niggly
    
    *additional = additional to the existing 750 quota meaning, so say 400, not 200 new unoccupied houses will be needed (when the quota doubles), each and every year!
    
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    March 14, 2018 6:37pm
Lance

Stephen Hawking dead at 76
Vary rarely does such a mind inhabit earth.
RIP
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March 14, 2018 5:10pm
- rangitoto
  
  Given his medical condition he had a reasonable innings.
  
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  March 14, 2018 5:36pm
  - Longknives
    
    RIP.
    A very unique and intelligent man.
    *On his best form he might have even cracked Kimbo’s Quiz Team…
    
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    March 14, 2018 5:47pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Yeah, but could he have pulled his weight by doing a bar run when it was his turn between question rounds?
      
      Sorry, too soon? ?
      
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      March 14, 2018 5:56pm
      - Johnboy
        
        What a bastard! Carking just when he announced he’d discovered what happened before the big bang!
        I reckon God’s an utter cunt. 🙂
        
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        March 14, 2018 6:11pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        The fix is in JB. G** doesn’t want you to know what happened before the big bang.
        
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        March 14, 2018 8:36pm
Gravelroad

Labour must be getting rattled judging by the ridiculous puff piece on stuff by Willie Jackson.
The adoration of Jacinda by Jackson is an embarrassment and if she were any kind of dignified leader instead of a shallow celebrity, she would be asking these sycophants to desist.
Hatred of National is one thing, but this love affair is something else – kind of scary in fact.
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March 14, 2018 5:55pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Liz Craig MP was at the Young Labour sleepover at Waihi
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March 14, 2018 6:01pm
- Johnboy
  
  Did she know what happened before the big bang though Maggy? 🙂
  
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  March 14, 2018 6:20pm
  - itstricky
    
    A classic JB double-entendre; a Stephen Hawking joke; a Labour joke – all in one… give that man a beer… to raise in honour.
    
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    March 14, 2018 7:02pm
    - Johnboy
      
      If I could still raise anything I’d pop off to the next Labour Party sleepover itstricky! 🙂
      
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      March 14, 2018 7:07pm
  - Longknives
    
    “Did she know what happened before the big bang though Maggy?”
    
    Kudos Johnboy!
    Earlier in the day that effort would have surely earned you 50 upticks…
    
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    March 14, 2018 7:16pm
    - Johnboy
      
      I’m a very late riser old chap! 🙂
      
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      March 14, 2018 7:22pm
Johnboy

I think Frankie Hill should take a good look in the mirror before she sheds her skimpy little togs…..I suggest a burqua or a body bag! 🙂
https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/waiheke-marketplace/102248635/beach-nudity-debate-heats-up-on-waiheke-island
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March 14, 2018 7:04pm
- nasska
  
  There she was trying to enjoy the sun & Greenpeace had to keep throwing buckets of water on her while trying to tow her back out to sea! 🙂
  
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  March 14, 2018 7:16pm
Pharmachick

A mighty Totara has fallen.

Rest in Peace Stephen Hawking.
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March 14, 2018 7:05pm
- Kimbo
  
  Liked his practical example of the theory of relativity. Two people playing table tennis in a railway car would measure the hit ball travelled a shorter distance at a lower speed, compared to a spectator observing from beside the tracks as the train sped by.
  
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  March 14, 2018 7:12pm
  - Johnboy
    
    The fucking conductor would be utterly pissed off about either of them missing the ball and spiraling the whole train off the side of an Einstein-Rosen bridge though Kimbo! >>>>Think of the children for Gods sake! 🙂
    
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    March 14, 2018 7:20pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Isn’t “go play on the train tracks” good old fashioned child discipline, indeed even approved day care in the Johnboy household?
      
      And thanks to Michael Cullen’s bloody Kiwirail, we would all pick up the tab. But then like Einstein’s observations and calculations of the physical Universe, the theory of relativity also applies when the government determines what is “value for money” for “assets”. ?
      
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      March 14, 2018 7:28pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Jacinda’s an asset Kimbo. Despite what we of the right may think can you imagine how well she could charm say…Trump? Or …Putin? 🙂
        
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        March 14, 2018 7:32pm
Lance

Tis a grand time these days. To see Labour in such a tailspin and the usual apologists spluttering away with indecipherable drivel.
Popcorn stocks must be getting ow
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March 14, 2018 7:51pm
Tauhei Notts

That idiot in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs & Trade who appointed Caroline Beresford to the Washington office;
I hope all your cabbages rot.
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March 14, 2018 8:30pm
- Ross12
  
  TN
  Let’s see how “strong” Winston Peters is with his portfolio.
  Under John Key she would be gone by now
  ( Key or his Minister of FA would told the CEO of MFA in no uncertain terms –behind a closed door)
  
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  March 14, 2018 8:35pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Despite it being illegal to tell the CE do do that?
    
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    March 14, 2018 9:19pm
noskire

RIP Stephen Hawking.
“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
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March 14, 2018 8:56pm
- Jack5
  
  Hawking was superb for his spirit and bravery coping with such severe disability.
  
  He seemed extremely bright, too, though not everyone agreed with his super-star status. This is from the obituary in the Telegraph:
  
  Although Hawking was respected by his fellow physicists, and recognised for his work on black holes, they did not accord him the iconic status which he acquired among the general public and there were some who felt that his presence in a discipline that runs on peer review was not entirely healthy, either for physics or for Hawking himself. In 1999, when Physics World conducted a survey among leading physicists of those they thought the greatest living mind in their field, Hawking did not even make it into the top ten.
  
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  March 14, 2018 9:33pm
  - Lance
    
    Hissy fits and jealousy amongst academia… who wuuda thunk?
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:39pm
JasonJohns

Hawking was Darwinism on wheels.
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March 14, 2018 9:48pm
JasonJohns

http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/stephen-hawking-there-is-no-god-and-the-theory-of-evolution-better-explains-the-origin-of-life/

Evidence of Hawking’s contempt for god. He waged a long war against Christianity. His theories were incompatible with Christian doctrine.

Now he is with the Dark Master he served so long.
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March 14, 2018 9:59pm
- Kimbo
  
  His theories were incompatible with Christian doctrine
  
  But as per the implications of his own The-Book-of-Genesis-is-literal ministry and state taxpayer funded Six Day Creation museum, so too is flat-earth denier, Ken Ham. ?
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:06pm
  - JasonJohns
    
    But do you seriously think a Bibleman can accept the ‘Big Bang’, Kimbo?
    
    Hawking was what he said he was: a fierce opponent of Christ. He dabbed in the black arts and they led him to black holes.
    
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    March 14, 2018 10:13pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Just as Ken Ham deceives them with the ballist heresy of a globe earth, and denies the sold metal dome sky of Genesis. And Hawking never purported to be a teacher of biblical truth. So who then is the real wolf in sheep’s clothing?! ?
      
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      March 14, 2018 10:17pm
      - JasonJohns
        
        Hawking openly aid that Black Holes are portals to hell.
        
        Now he has gone to join his dark master, asmodeus, beelzebub, the lord of flies, cublar the manificent, sithas the oozing sore, kithras the beast…
        
        all the oblique horrors of hell are upon him!
        
        this is christian doctrine.
        
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        March 14, 2018 10:25pm
JasonJohns

I’ve pondered if the vastness of space could be hell. More than enough room to scatter the souls of all the humanity that has has existed since creation left with a conscience to be tormented by a complete separation from everything.

Perhaps Hawking is residing in a black hole now?
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March 14, 2018 10:03pm
- Kimbo
  
  No!!!!!! You heretic! ?
  
  This is what happens when you swallow the Bible-denying theology of Ken Ham. As per the threefold schema taught in the Scriptures (“the heavens, the earth and under the earth”),
  
  …hell is a special compartment that is below the surface of the earth, but above the pillars on which the flat disc earth rests in the midst of the waters below.
  
  You’re welcome. ?
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:13pm
JasonJohns

I follow Ken Ham but also the personal revelation of AH Dallimore, the prophet sent by god to NZ. He is 136 years old and still active in West Auckland. In fact his very fleshliness is proof of god’s power.

He annointed Sid Holland and so founded the National Party and our little-known 1944 constitution was partly his work.
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March 14, 2018 10:16pm
- Kimbo
  
  Hmm
  
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/4d2/dallimore-arthur-henry/print
  
  British-Israelism, Edward VIII to be God’s instrument to restore the kingdom of God, denial of the Trinity. Whatever could go wrong?! Seems an improvement on Ken Ham. ?
  
  And a genuine thank you, JJ, for that info. Didn’t know of Dallimorw, and I’m grateful I now do.
  
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  March 14, 2018 10:27pm
- mikenmild
  
  Could you enlarge on the circumstances of Dallimore’s annointing Saint Sid of Holland?
  Sid Holland was a fascinating figure and rather amazingly has not been the subject of a full biography yet. Perhaps your information on this hitherto unremarked incident might encourage someone to tackle the work.
  Also, the 1944 constitution. ‘Little known’, you say. Is that because it only exists in your fertile imagination?
  
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  March 15, 2018 5:16am
JasonJohns

well…want to meet him, and therefore meet god?

he is active in kelston secretly and may soon reveal a new prophecy. i have touched his flesh through a sheet in a basement room. it was revelation.
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March 14, 2018 10:53pm
- Kimbo
  
  Hmm. Is he able to multiply the fish that I buy at the Kelston takeaway?
  
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  March 14, 2018 11:00pm
- mikenmild
  
  If you were able to convince me that Dallimore was actually still alive, 48 years after his reported death, you would be making a start on converting me to your brand of ~~Christianity wingnuttery~~ trolling.
  
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