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General Debate 10 March 2018

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KiWombat

So Robertson and Twitford are considering a “Value Capture Tax” for Aucklanders. It was explained to the Auckland Chamber of Commerce thus:-

“This is a process under which a special tax is levied on property owners deemed to have benefited from the building of infrastructure – – – if the land value of a property benefiting from a new rail link increased in value from $100,000 to $250,000 over 5 years – a 150 percent increase compared with a rise of 120 per cent in land values in the wider area – a tax could be levied on the $30,000 gain attributable to the infrastructure improvements.”

Aucklanders should be very concerned. Robertson has clearly signalled – in a manner which will be labelled as clear and transparent – that Auckland land will be taxed whenever it is deemed to have benefited from new infrastructure. Aucklanders should beware of new roads, footpaths, cycleways, train tracks and bus stops anywhere near their homes.

Furthermore, Aucklanders should be very concerned at the apparent very low threshold set by Robertson and the Twit – $100,000 (again – this will be explained as a very transparent figure in the future.)

Robertson has also signalled that the tax may be added to Auckland council rates. He will probably acknowledge that his “estimate” of $100,000 land value was wrong, and suggest that double that amount would be a fairer starting point. So, if after the installation of an “infrastructure improvement” your property is re-assessed at a value of, say, $600,000 – then you would be liable to the new tax on the increased value. Auckland council would charge the new rate, so Robbo and the Twit would be isolated from the backlash.

We do not yet know the amount of tax involved, or the benchmark for “infrastructure improvements.” If it is something as simple as a new bus stop, they could reap additional tens of millions – perhaps more !

So Aucklanders, if you thought your rates covered roads and rubbish – think again. New roading may now be classified as “infrastructure improvement” and taxed at an additional rate !

Beware ! Before they have implemented an Auckland fuel tax they are already looking for more !

He also seems to accept that home values might double in value over a 5 year period by between 120 and 150% – interesting !
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March 10, 2018 8:01am
- Paulus
  
  This appears to be that which has been commented upon known as an Unrealised Capital Gains Tax.
  This is where each year, like the rates, it is determined that your property has a notional increase in value from a pre determined base – say CV.
  Say increase determined by a notional value by Post Code.
  This notional unrealised gain is then taxed each year.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:14am
  - gorse
    
    All taxes like this will be repealed, hopefully
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:22am
    - CHFR1
      
      Have you ever seen an incoming government repeal a tax??
      This would be my biggest complaint with any incoming right of centre government, they get scared off by the media and opposition (but I repeat myself) manufactured outrage and say it has to be done slowly which means it is not done at all and then when they lose we get taxed even more.
      
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      March 10, 2018 8:26am
      - GazzaW
        
        Labour will have to go to the 2020 election with this tax as part of their manifesto. I have no doubt that Bridges and Adams will reject its introduction out of hand along with any other needless taxation policies dreamt up by the Taxation Working Group.
        
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        March 10, 2018 9:29am
      - Pongo
        
        National abolished gift tax, cost more to administer than it collected and it was a stupid tax.
        
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        March 10, 2018 9:37am
      - matchbox
        
        Broadcasting tax (fee) dumped 1999-ish.
        
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        March 10, 2018 4:38pm
    - Manolo
      
      I do not trust feeble National when comes to repealing either legislation or taxes created by socialist Labour passes.
      
      Just remember interest-free student loans, Working For Families, etc.
      
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      March 10, 2018 4:43pm
  - KevOB
    
    This is no different from rates which are based on QV’s assessed valuations. Is Poohbah and the Big Twit proposing that Councils will levy a separate rate and pass that back to the Government?
    This is a potential equity nightmare. What is value?
    
    Keep that lot away from tax administration. The real fish muddying the pool is erosion of the tax base.
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:17pm
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Central government tax theoretical increases in land value while local government keep increasing rates. Good for renters and the property market isn’t it? They won’t be done until they achieve an equal sharing of misery.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:18am
  - Paulus
    
    Of course Central Governments can do any taxes they want – so tough.
    
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    March 10, 2018 1:27pm
- mandk
  
  Who said this?
  
  “Roads are made, streets are made, services are improved, electric light turns night into day, water is brought from reservoirs a hundred miles off in the mountains — and all the while the landlord sits still. Every one of those improvements is effected by the labor and cost of other people and the taxpayers. To not one of those improvements does the land monopolist, as a land monopolist, contribute, and yet by every one of them the value of his land is enhanced. He renders no service to the community, he contributes nothing to the general welfare, he contributes nothing to the process from which his own enrichment is derived.”
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:22am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    Some died in the wool communist
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:34am
    - SGA
      
      Smothered in a sheep fleece?
      
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      March 10, 2018 8:39am
  - Viking2
    
    Someone with little understanding of the reality. i.e. a Labour Pollie
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:38am
  - KiWombat
    
    You need to visit the West Coast mandk.
    
    All the services you refer to, even the electric light, are things they are still waiting for.
    
    Improvements to property on the coast is achieved by sheer guts, determination and bloody hard work. Many coasters should not be considered as a “land monopolist” but rather as a pioneer !
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:42am
    - G152
      
      The west coast.
      Where labor was born and unions rule.
      No electricity? BS
      Its their following labor that keeps them in the dark
      
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      March 10, 2018 8:47am
      - KiWombat
        
        Of course we have electricity down here – many coasters even generate it themselves !
        
        Electric lights – that another thing !
        
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        March 10, 2018 9:29am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The first area to officially supply electricity to the public
        in New Zealand was Reefton, on August 4, 1888.
        
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        March 10, 2018 9:32am
      - KiWombat
        
        Right on Maggy. Hasn’t changed an awful lot since then though !
        
        They have telephone in Reefton now – we only have cell phones (in some places,) have to get SKY if we want television as there are no terrestrial services, and as for optic fibre – can’t see that happening this century !
        
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        March 10, 2018 9:57am
      - RF
        
        KiWombat.
        
        Reefton has Broadway and the odd chorus girl hidden away.
        
        Temperatures are going off the scale recently. What happened to the fog.
        
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        March 10, 2018 10:51am
    - Piniwi
      
      Yet KiWombat it was little old Reefton that had the first electric street lighting in NZ. One would think with such a progressive area they would have very expensive land.
      
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      March 10, 2018 3:00pm
  - Inandout
    
    Phil Twyford.
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:43am
  - mandk
    
    It was Winston Churchill:
    
    http://www.landvaluetax.org/current-affairs-comment/winston-churchill-said-it-all-better-then-we-can.html
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:50am
    - Humble Capitalist
      
      So what’s the point of the quote in this discussion? Are you saying we should all stump up a land tax on top of the ever increasing council tax (rates)?
      
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      March 10, 2018 8:57am
      - mandk
        
        The point is, why should a land banker on Auckland’s urban fringe enjoy a huge tax-free value uplift when a new road – paid for by the tax payer – is built? Especially when the poor tax payer is a poor bastard in Takaka can’t get into or out of his property because it is on a washed-out low priority road.
        
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        March 10, 2018 9:27am
      - alloytoo
        
        ” why should a land banker on Auckland’s urban fringe enjoy a huge tax-free value uplift when a new road – paid for by the tax payer”
        
        Because the tax-payer/rate payer probably didn’t pay for the new infrastructure, it was paid for the developer and gifted to the council.
        
        If anybody should receive this tax it shouldn’t be the council, it should be the “evil land banker’s” new neighbours
        
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        March 10, 2018 9:54am
      - Humble Capitalist
        
        Or the poor tax paying bastard in Takaka that sees our government giving millions to non NZ tax payers in the islands first before worrying about them.
        ‘New Zealand First’ yeah right
        
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        March 10, 2018 11:42am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Rates include land tax already: Debbie Acott, Radio NZ 21 November 2017 said that rates are “basically a property tax,” and that Aucklanders “wouldn’t get any extra services.”
        
        Don’t ever forget this. Any further property tax would be double dipping.
        
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        March 10, 2018 12:09pm
    - SGA
      
      It was Winston Churchill
      
      Cute – I imagine you’re a good trout angler as well.
      
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      March 10, 2018 9:07am
    - alloytoo
      
      Churchill said this in 1909.
      
      The rates regime in the UK has changed considerably in the UK alone. Never mind in NZ
      
      he also said:
      
      “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
      
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      March 10, 2018 9:48am
  - Duxton
    
    Sounds like something a racist, ANC-supporting Labour, Green or NZF politician would say.
    
    Do I win a prize?
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:56am
    - MCos
      
      You got the racist right.
      
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      March 10, 2018 10:43am
- Harkman
  
  Value added from a Subway system, are these people insane? These are the places that the bums hang out. Trust me you don’t want to live near one of these stations.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:29am
- Chris R
  
  Wombat:This sounds very much like the “Development Levies” which are imposed by all local authorities around the country. These are billed to any developer/building owner and are based on a computer projection of the additional strain the new development may/might place on existing infra-structure. It is extortionate and based simply on the projection. In other words it is pinioned on garbage. (NB Man made climate change is also based on computer projections…also garbage!) The development levies, when being assessed ignore the additional rates the building owner will pay due to the value of the property post-construction. There appears to be little in the way of real evidence of additional strain on infra-structure applied to the levy, there is no room for discretion and worst of all there is a 1.5% pa penalty applied for refusal to pay plus an embargo from selling-up should the levy remain outstanding. Where do the proceeds of the levies go? They’re wasted on councillors’ vanity projects and “city promotions.”
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:32am
  - KiWombat
    
    Yes Chris, I have no doubt they are very similar, but Grant & Twit will package this one in such a way that it differs from the council development levies. Something like – Development Levies are for the use of existing services and infrastructure, this tax is for new services and infrastructure !
    
    As they were addressing the Chamber of Commerce I am sure the similarity would have been pointed out – and for the life of me I can’t work out why he would seek to unveil such a policy in front of some of the largest ratepayers (and taxpayers) in the land !
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:48am
    - Chris R
      
      When you are one of these rabid money-grabbing lefties you don’t care about your audience or your fellow citizens think as this is all about dragging down, stifling enterprise and killing-off aspiration. If this absurdity is introduced it will simply be swallowed by whatever slush fund happens to be trendy at time….think cycle-ways, new stadia, street art, a statue of Clark Gayford or anything equally pointless.
      
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      March 10, 2018 8:56am
  - CrazyIvan
    
    It’s similar but not the same; it applies also to existing housing not just new developments, where the value of those properties goes up because a new railway station or on ramp makes that area more attractive to live in, hence a value uplift. So if you own a house and the Council puts a new light rail link past your house with a station across the road, you will face a higher tax bill to reflect that the home you live in is now worth more.
    
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    March 10, 2018 10:29am
    - Chris R
      
      Thanks Ivan. The ridiculous aspect of the example you give is that the Council makes the assumption that a light rail station nearby enhances the value of your property whether you use light rail or not. I detect a distinct pomposity in the assumptions coming from Council staff in these matters. Ratepayers are forced to subscribe to that penetrating pomposity….dearly.
      
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      March 10, 2018 10:34am
    - KiWombat
      
      This example should be revenue neutral Ivan, because the light rail will be built on an existing road pavement.
      
      Local residents will lose two traffic lanes, but gain two light rail lanes. Those that drive will suffer a loss in amenity, whilst those who catch light rail will gain.
      
      Perhaps the light rail fare should reflect the loss of amenity to motorists in that neighbourhood, or local rates reduced as compensation.
      
      Yeah – right !
      
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      March 10, 2018 11:21am
- Awww C-mon
  
  But if things like cycle lanes decrease the value of your assets, or your ability to continue your business…???
  
  These idiots couldn’t run a bath.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:32am
  - KiWombat
    
    Yes my Aunt has a bus shelter on her front lawn – suppose that might de-value her property as she has to collect all the rubbish strewn around by commuters, and mow over broken glass when the vandals move in !
    
    But I suppose Grant will suggest that she doesn’t have to walk so far to the bus stop, so she should pay more for the privilege !
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:52am
    - tf78
      
      I bet your Auntie doesn’t even need to use the bus.
      
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      March 10, 2018 10:05am
- KiWombat
  
  Don’t be lulled into thinking that this will be a tax unique to Auckland, for once Auckland has this tax we will no doubt see many other councils lining up to say “what about me !”
  
  Feel very sorry for the West Coast again, in South Westland district you can count the footpaths on the fingers of one hand, and as for bus stops and train lines – these are things of dreams !
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:37am
  - KiWombat
    
    And the bus stop at the end of our street (for the school bus) is a tin shed provided by coasters – not council !
    
    No electric light of course !
    
    Even the mini bus is provided by local enterprise, no government or council funding there !
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:53am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Bus?
      Minibus?
      Footpath?
      What are these things?
      
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      March 10, 2018 9:36am
    - KiWombat
      
      Here’s the kicker Maggy – electricity !
      
      Had a quote (a few years ago now) from local energy supplier to connect electricity to a new house. $65,000. So we are putting in posts in our spare time, price is now $16,000 to cover connection and transformer.
      
      Aucklanders can get power connected with a text or a phone call – alas not West Coast !
      
      Now if we did not have the means to put the electric posts in, then would probably manage with a generator. $65,000 buys alot of diesel !
      
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      March 10, 2018 10:08am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        But as I pointed out above, The West Coast was the most progressive Province in the nation in the 1880s.
        What went wrong?
        
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        March 10, 2018 12:17pm
      - sooty
        
        Labour.
        
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        March 10, 2018 12:44pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      It’s not just the Coast where the locals or Lions clubs, etc supply required bus shelters, etc. Kiwis do it yourself has been necessary for years .
      
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      March 10, 2018 10:26am
      - Viking2
        
        Correct. If I remeber correctly the Lions club I belonged to supplied some 12 bus shelters along with lots of other amenities. Now of course the new locals just want money from someone else to do these things. Don’t contribute stuff all. Which is why I am no longer a Lion.
        Wasn’t a Lion for 21 years to finish up raising money for someone else’s overseas trip.
        
        A bit sad what has happened really. Lotto, gaming trusts and local electricity trusts just hand it out. Why compete with that?
        
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        March 10, 2018 12:58pm
- realityczech
  
  So what Labour are telling us is if they do something to improve the area lived in by societies most poor and vulnerable…. they will make the poor pay – big time ! Or will Labour only be increasing property values in rich areas?
  
  Which is it, because I want to know?
  
  This should be a winner with the struggling Islanders doing two jobs cleaning dunnies long into to the night, just to meet the mortgage and (mostly) feed the kids.
  
  The type of low level human vermin who vote Green and Labour mostly live in cities so they have reaped what they sow.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:58am
- tf78
  
  It’s worse than that because it’s the council that values our land in the first place – we’re stuffed! Most of the houses in our area are selling $100,000’s
  less than their new valuations.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:02am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Too right! The new valuation I got is at least 150,000 higher than the real value.
    
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    March 10, 2018 12:16pm
- KevOB
  
  Bright. Not.
  How are those affected going to be able to pay this tax on notional capital. That killed land tax previously.
  
  Envy –>Cash.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:02am
- lastmanstanding
  
  So will I get a cash refund if my value drops. No thought not. These people reinforce Bob Jones who says all taxes are theft by stealth
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:23am
- Simon
  
  Sorry ladies this all stems from National’s open doors immigration.
  
  Massive population growth gave the government books a boost but there has been an underinvestment in infrastructure
  
  Labo have to play catch up on some projects. Auckland Shitty is though building white elephants
  
  Labo new taxes won’t be repealed by National as the state will need the revenue to complete infrastructure
  
  Open doors immigration has fucked Auckland. The city can’t cope. These are facts
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:39am
  - wiseowl
    
    Open doors immigration has fucked New Zealand.
    How can any sane person expect 6000 people to turn up in Auckland EVERY MONTH and expect no impact.
    Total madness same as Australia.
    
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    March 10, 2018 10:30am
    - Happychappy
      
      But Winston and the Coalition were going to put a stop to this so why haven’t you mentioned those instead of New Zealand and Auckland. It was National and the Minister when making statements about immigration when they were in power and shows what a hypocrite you are not so wise owl.
      
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      March 10, 2018 6:56pm
  - backster
    
    Wrong the increase in immigration was caused by all the New Zealanders who fled to Australia during the Clark tyranny returning to Auckland when she was thrown out. Once Labour brings in all their new taxes the same exodus will recur.
    
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    March 10, 2018 2:16pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Best news is it will hit all the Chardonnay Socialists who live in the Auckland Central and Mt Albert electorates.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:46am
  - KiWombat
    
    SR – it will hit any landowner who benefits from an infrastructure upgrade.
    
    Not just Auckland Central/Mt Albert, but anywhere there is a new road, footpath or bus stop.
    
    I’m thinking Swanson. When they fix the problem with that bridge and extend (or actually re-instate) commuter rail service to Kumeu or beyond, anybody with land in that area will be hit. At the moment they don’t even have a footpath – but when that does happen boy will they regret it !
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:27am
  - Viking2
    
    Never going to fly. Think about it.
    
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    March 10, 2018 1:01pm
- KKKKatee
  
  Sounds more like a ‘vulture’ tax courtesy of Robbo.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:56am
- oldpark
  
  Any new tax grab for hardworking NZs ,will be the fault of our wee Dictator Peters. Just substitute the name Robertson/Peters.Wish is wasn’t. The mentioned pest is taking the good ship NZ ,anytime soon, on to the rocks. Even worse making NZ the Socialist Republic of the Pacific. In fact emulating the Islands that got massive money handouts in recent days.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:57am
Manolo

Mrs Merkel’s heritage: the invasive and intolerant religion of peace at work in Germany:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/09/berlin-teachers-complain-religious-bullying-muslim-parents/

Hildegard Greif-Gross, director of the Peter Petersen Elementary School in Neukölln, claimed that there are many examples of religious bullying even with younger students. Greif-Gross said that Muslim students would bully others on as little as bringing a ham sandwich for their lunch because they were taught pork is forbidden in Islam, Berliner Zeitung reports.
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March 10, 2018 8:03am
Viking2

Jolly good job.
Time Auckland paid its own way. Grown up baby still sucking off the tit of the rest of us.
:lol

If Robertson doesn’t get ya Cullen will.

cindy won’t be pleased but then it high finance. A bit over her head unless it’s buying houses.
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March 10, 2018 8:03am
- Paulus
  
  If Auckland get it we all will as Council’s follow to get as much of our money to squander as they can
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:15am
DifferentPerspective

Taxpayers’ Union – doesn’t trust “progressive” Amy Adams

Nothing says “you made the wrong appointment Soimon” like this press release from the Taxpayers’ Union suggesting that they’re going to have to hold Amy Adams to account!

She’s just going to be another mealy-mouthed Labour Lite liar who talks a good centre-right game all the while wishing she could wear a red rose instead of that boring old blue N!

I don’t recall them having to make this kind of threat to any other National Finance Minister – what is making them so suspicious about “pwogwessive” Amy?
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March 10, 2018 8:08am
- Harkman
  
  I’m a bit worried too, a nice person but she never struck me as a wise financier or economic guru. Mind you Robo is as thick as two planks, so we might be living in an era where the advisors do all the decision making.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:34am
  - GazzaW
    
    Give her some time in the job beforewriting her off. Adams is one of the sharpest knives in National’s drawer and she and Bridges will make a great team. She’s sharper than Joyce just not as loud – Robbo is in for a hard time.
    
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    March 10, 2018 9:37am
  - KKKKatee
    
    She’s way smarter than Robbo. Nothing smart about him at all – except for his smart-arsed responses. She could eat him up and spit him our for breakfast. Do not underestimate the ability of Adams.
    
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    March 10, 2018 10:06am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Please don’t use “Robbo” and “arse” in the same sentence…
      
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      March 10, 2018 1:42pm
  - backster
    
    The advisers…You mean Clark, Cullen, Hodgson, Simpson, Goff, and co.
    
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    March 10, 2018 2:21pm
- Kiwi Dave
  
  Is this a threat specific to Amy Adams because of her known actions and opinions, or merely a boilerplate statement, similar to those expressed regularly on KB, by the Taxpayers’ Union of its expectations of a prudent National Party finance policy?
  
  The Taxpayers’ Union began in 2013, so there’s been only Bill English for them to ‘threaten’ previously.
  
  Post script: I have no knowledge at all of Ms Adams. Perhaps other posters have relevant evidence.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:11am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    Shes a small firm lawyer. Reminds of those earnest Womens Institute members all twin sets and pearls.
    
    Will struggle against Robbo even thought he is a financial and economic pygmy. She will make him look like a finance colossus.
    
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    March 10, 2018 9:30am
    - Gravelroad
      
      As opposed to a “big firm lawyer”?. What does that signify – being a small firm lawyer? Does that mean Ms Adams’ law qualifications are inferior? Or that her experience of business is more limited?
      Not sure of the relevance of the Women’s Institute crack either. Are they lesser beings than men who belong to the Rotary Club or a men’s Lodge Group?
      Misogyny is well entrenched on this blog.
      
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      March 10, 2018 10:43am
      - KiWombat
        
        Its actually Mrs Adams not Ms. She doesn’t have Multiple Sclerosis – yet !
        
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        March 10, 2018 11:31am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Which is why you, I and others are needed here, Gravelroad. Also against the outrageous antisemitism of EAD2 etc.
        
        Don’t give up on this blog if you’re a social liberal but also a believe in financial liberty. The Left won’t give us the latter, want to steal what we have earned.
        
        So ironic: women have achieved equal rights and opportunities. Many women have worked, saved, bought homes, bought investments and started businesses. All to make themselves more independent from the state, either together with a partner or alone.
        
        Now CoL wants to steal a big chunk of that independence through one form or another of envy tax.
        
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        March 10, 2018 1:01pm
    - lifesgood
      
      She will make him look like a colossus, he is indeed fat, but definitely not a finance colossus. You lefties appear to be running scared, lastman.
      
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      March 10, 2018 1:09pm
- Happychappy
  
  You could always go back a back your mate Winston again DP, the only problem is you won’t be able to blame Bill English for your Stupidity.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:49am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    10/10 for observation unhappy – good to know that you are keeping up with the play. The problem is that instead of Bill “the two-time proven loser” in charge National picked an even worse option.
    
    Still I’ll be very happy to accept your humble and gracious apology when National are still sitting on the opposition benches after losing in 2020 because of their stupidity in picking the trifecta of losers in Soimon-Bennett-Adams to head things up.
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:09am
flipper

Typical NZ’s MSM reaction [edit – damn with faint praise, ignore (Herald), Trump unsuitable/unprepared (Stuffed), or Kim won] to planned Trump/Moon/Kim talks. What more can we expect from those idiots???

PLEASE note: Tillerson says they are “talks”, NOT “negotiations”.

Trump will NOT give a millimetre.
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March 10, 2018 8:11am
- Harkman
  
  They won’t give Trump or his Admin any credit. But when I saw that little Korean guy speak outside the White house yesterday, I couldn’t help but think of Neville Chamberlain. Little rocketman is up to something.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:38am
- Viking2
  
  Go read what Keating has to ssy about how good he thinks Trump really is and how bad the last 3 Presidents have been.
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12009694
  
  Donald Trump is “surprisingly” good at foreign policy, according to former prime minister Paul Keating, who says the United States was directionless under the previous three administrations.
  
  Keating on Friday said he had not expected Trump to have “such a pragmatic” foreign policy on China and Russia, and he urged the president to continue down the path he was on.
  
  “America has gone on for 24 years without a strategy,” Keating told a business conference in Sydney, during which he criticised Barack Obama’s timidity and “lack of policy ambition” in office.
  
  “Trump has, surprisingly – and I hope he maintains this – put his hand up for the right policy.”
  
  more:
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:16am
  - Justitia
    
    Keating is absolutely right. Clinton “lost” Russia while he fiddled with Monica. The Russians were looking West in the 90s and the West shut the door on them. Bush Jnr was an idiot who handed Iran control over Iraq and then Syria on a plate – so predictable, his Dad was wise enough to see the inevitable consequences of pushing on to Baghdad in 1991 and held back. Obama gave a great speech but lacked the spine to do the job – a waste of space. Trump is a breath of fresh air – and is on track to be the most successful foreign policy President since Nixon.
    
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    March 10, 2018 9:53am
    - tf78
      
      Obama reminds me of Jacinta – all mouth and no trousers.
      
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      March 10, 2018 10:13am
    - stephieboy
      
      “White House: Never Mind the North Meeting, Trump Was Just Babbling”
      
      “…South Korean official Chung Eui-yong was in the White House yesterday meeting with other officials. Trump decided to see Chung right away; maybe Fox News was in repeats or something. Trump “then asked Mr. Chung to tell him about his meeting with Mr. Kim,” reports the New York Times. “When Mr. Chung said that the North Korean leader had expressed a desire to meet Mr. Trump, the president immediately said he would do it, and directed Mr. Chung to announce it to the White House press corps.”
      
      It sounds from this account that Trump had no real idea that North Korea has always wanted a face-to-face meeting with the U.S. president, and the U.S. has always imposed conditions. That would certainly be the logical interpretation of this account, given that, in the last week, Trump has confused North Korea with the other, extremely different South Korea, and
      
      demanded a laughably tiny $1 billion trade concession from China when he was supposed to demand $100 billion. It certainly appears Trump believed, in the moment, that North Korea had not been interested in a meeting until then, so he needed to take the deal before they changed their mind. Whatever. Art of the Deal….”
      
      http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/never-mind-the-north-korea-meeting-trump-was-just-babbling.html
      
      Evidently the North Korean leaders enjoys the propaganda value of initiating the talks .When it come to the sticking point of withdrawing US troops from the region in exchange for disarming then …..
      
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      March 10, 2018 10:51am
      - Inandout
        
        North Korea is virtually bankrupt, dimwit, so they have zero bargaining power. Sorry you leftists are simmering.
        
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        March 10, 2018 11:44am
      - GazzaW
        
        Why don’t you fuck off stephie with your amateur efforts at analysing US and international politics. Shouldn’t you be studying or cleaning up your student flat? Be careful or you could end up a ‘professional’ student like Robbo.
        
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        March 10, 2018 11:54am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Could we get an army of downtickers? The scroll button is wearing out…
        
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        March 10, 2018 1:44pm
    - KiWombat
      
      I would hardly hold up Keating as a pillar of wisdom. In particular on matters of fiscal policy, as he was the mastermind behind the “recession we had to have!”
      
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      March 10, 2018 1:32pm
holysheet

Robbo and Kelvin are walking down different ends of Vivian street toward each other. Robbo is carrying a sack. When they meet, Kelvin says, “Hey Robbo, whats in that sack?”

“Just some chickens.”

“If I guess how many there are, can I have one?”

“Yes, if you guess right I’ll give you both of them.”

“OK. Ummmmm … five?”
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March 10, 2018 8:14am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  The sad reality is that Kelvin really is actually dumber than a sack of chickens.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:49am
gorse

I see Stuff is still, after nearly two weeks, running “Is the NZ Defence force lacking transparency?” Story. I am suspicious Stuff has an agenda
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March 10, 2018 8:18am
- mandk
  
  Probably nothing suspicious.
  
  It’s like that “Demise and rise of Andrew Little” story.
  
  No one has actually read it (not even his Mrs), and Stuff have simply forgotten to remove it.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:27am
  - Viking2
    
    yeh noticed that. Stuff are lazy.
    Don’t advertise with them anymore.
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:42am
- KevOB
  
  They have had a cartoon of Andrew Little sitting there too. An agenda is obvious.
  Send these Aussie papers to Manus Island.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:05am
Humble Capitalist

If you missed the score from this weeks match it was Pacific Islands 36,000,000 Golden Bay 0.
Yes that’s right those that pay tax and all hold a NZ passport are at the back of the list when it comes to aid after a disaster.
I’m sure they have noted this in Nuku’alofa and will give a few mill back in ‘foreign aid’ to a red faced Cindy and Peters.
Either that or the king will have a 5 year long party on us.
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March 10, 2018 8:25am
- KiWombat
  
  Council has to pay to repair the road over the Takaka hill – not the government (who probably haven’t heard about the problem yet !)
  
  If they leave the road the way it is – impassable – then the mail truck can’t get through with all the rates and general revenue cheques.
  
  But I suppose Grant will send in a helicopter just to collect those !
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:32am
  - flipper
    
    But it is Nicky Smith’s constituency.
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:40am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      “But it is Nicky Smith’s constituency.”
      
      Wrong. It’s West Coast/Tasman. Labour seat held by the genius Damian O’Connor.
      
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      March 10, 2018 8:56am
    - KiWombat
      
      Actually it’s O’Connors. The same genius we have down here on the Coast, although I’m not sure he knows about that.
      
      Last MP we had down here was Paula Bennett at the local pub last year – O’Connor only seems to go as far as Greymouth, although he did visit Hoki in 2016.
      
      Thank heavens Maureen Pugh is back on deck – she will rattle the chains for the West Coast – she actually lives there !
      
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      March 10, 2018 9:39am
  - Piniwi
    
    What KiWombat? Takaka Hill road is State Highway isn’t it? Thus being the responsibility of NZTA.
    
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    March 10, 2018 3:27pm
    - KiWombat
      
      You might call it a state goat track, highway would be stretching it a bit too far !
      
      Only go there if absolutely necessary
      
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      March 10, 2018 11:49pm
- cas
  
  Did you notice the King wasn’t even there to greet the terrible twosome. He was in China sorting out more money. Mind you ours has no strings attached.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:47am
  - GazzaW
    
    The king probably needs a top up to pay for his rent in Westminster and his hotel bills in Monaco. Why Tonga hasn’t had a revolution God only knows.
    
    Mr Garrett?
    
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    March 10, 2018 9:44am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Tonga is governed by the three R’s: Royalty, religion and rugby – all male dominated.
      
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      March 10, 2018 10:12am
      - GazzaW
        
        With the hundreds of millions pitched into Tonga over the years why are the majority of homes still not cyclone proof and why is there not a cyclone shelter in every village? Why is there not a national stockpile of emergency supplies?
        
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        March 10, 2018 10:36am
- Duxton
  
  South Pacific 36 mill. Golden Bay nil.
  
  That is VERY clever!
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:04am
JibberJabber

Call me Crazy, but I`m stockpiling shithouse paper like there`s no tomorrow.
And the Beer fridge is now full of Butter ?
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March 10, 2018 8:32am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Nice one JJ but you have your prioridies wrong. Budder does not belong in any beer fridge
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:44am
- mandk
  
  Get rid of the butter and re-fill the beer fridge.
  
  If there’s no tomorrow, you have no need of butter and toilet paper.
  
  Oh, and make sure you have two screens to watch this evening. NZ vs England and Hurricanes vs crusaders are on at the same time.
  
  And, if you do happen to wake up tomorrow morning, you should go down to the Salvation Army Citadel and give thanks to the Lord for sparing you 🙂
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:47am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “Oh, and make sure you have two screens to watch this evening. NZ vs England and Hurricanes vs crusaders are on at the same time.”
    
    Wrong. Cricket is a day game starting at 11. Hurricanes vs. Crusaders starts at 7.35 so you only need one TV.
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:59am
  - JibberJabber
    
    There`s still room for 1 box of Beer, tho` I prefer Single Malt now.
    
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    March 10, 2018 9:08am
- JibberJabber
  
  I have every intention of surviving the Labourpocalypse comfortably and that means oodles of butter on my Toast!
  And silky smooth butt paper.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:51am
- Inandout
  
  And don’t forget the Saturday paper for lighting the fire for a week, or more. The crossword is a plus.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:57am
Harkman

Leftists campaign on jealousy, they win elections (though Labour actually didn’t) on the idea of confiscating money off the industrious & the clever and redistributing it to their constituents in welfare bribes. I’m surprised their constituents have never called them out for giving it away to foreigners.
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March 10, 2018 8:44am
- JibberJabber
  
  Indeed, a mindblowing vote buying jaunt around the Pacific with our money.
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:54am
  - kowtow
    
    They vote Red “Gimme, gimme,gimme” Labour anyway, so this is actually Cindy and co enhancing their post gubmint CV, for when they’re likely to want a UN sinecure.
    It’s self enhancement at the cost to the NZ taxpayer.
    
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    March 10, 2018 9:10am
DigNap15

Yes, but will great pacific trip cause the COL to drop in the polls.
I hope so, but I don’t think it will.

I think we need to wait till after the budget.

But with this new Auckland tax and Cullens “tax review” its not looking good for NZ inc
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March 10, 2018 9:10am
milkmaid

“Watch: Jacinda Ardern’s priceless reaction on learning of Trump’s pending talks with North Korea”

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/watch-jacinda-arderns-priceless-reaction-learning-trumps-pending-talks-north-korea

What is priceless is that after her initial frown, there is a slight flicker in the picture and suddenly she has had her make-up and hair redone and she has an answer!
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March 10, 2018 9:15am
- Inandout
  
  And TV One continues to wank over her presence. I see Prince Clarkey in the background, reputed father of the Chosen Child.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:46am
- Rich Prick
  
  Good grief, she really is just a talking head. Mouth opens, meaningless words fall out.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:50am
  - tf78
    
    I like to call her the “gobby mare”.
    
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    March 10, 2018 10:26am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Good spotting mm.
  You must admit she does look gorgeous with a bit of lippy and iron oxide on her face.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:52am
  - Manolo
    
    Cara Maggy, what about those ghastly shoes, an affront to good taste? 🙂
    
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    March 10, 2018 10:16am
  - milkmaid
    
    She is not really my type, Maggy, but I will admit she has a good make-up artist. Maybe the cross-dresser does it for her.
    
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    March 10, 2018 10:29am
    - Duxton
      
      I have been wondering whether she has someone from Weta Studios on the payroll. It would take that level of expertise to make her look presentable.
      
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      March 10, 2018 1:25pm
- Nukuleka
  
  This type of ‘news editing’ is something that TV One ought to be questioned about and is the sort of ‘fake’ live interviewing that the MSM would crucify Trump or Bill English for. The woman has been caught out, has not the brains to give a measured response to the question asked, and then been provided with the opportunity to pause, redo the lippy and hair and prepare the answer before continuing with the filming. What a bullshit state broadcaster we have.
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:09am
  - milkmaid
    
    Some of them seem to have obliged by returning to near their original positions! Do they think we are idiots?
    
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    March 10, 2018 10:32am
tf78

I just have to share this – hope you get a laugh.

Subject : This modern world

It’s been snowing all night so …
8:00 I made a snowman.
8:10 A feminist passed by and asked me why I didn’t make a snow woman.
8:15 So, I made a snow woman.
8:17 My feminist neighbour complained about the snow woman’s voluptuous chest saying it objectified snow women everywhere.
8:20 The gay couple living nearby threw a hissy fit and moaned it could have been two snowmen instead.
8:22 The transgender ma.wom.. person asked why I didn’t just make one snowperson with detachable parts.
8:25 The vegans at the end of the land complained about the carrot nose, as veggies are food and not to decorate snow figures with.
8:28 I am being called a racist because the snow couple is white.
8:31 The Muslim gent across the road demands the snow woman wear a burqa.
8:40 The Police arrive saying someone has been offended.
8:42 The feminist neighbour complained again that the broomstick of the snow woman needs to be removed because it depicted women in a domestic role.
8:43 The Council equalities officer arrived and threatened me with eviction.
8:45 TV news crew from the BBC shows up, I am asked if I know the difference between snowmen and snowwomen? I reply “snowballs” and am called a sexist.
9:00 I’m on the News as a suspected terrorist, racist, homophobe, sensibility offender bent on stirring up trouble during difficult weather.
9:10 I am asked if I have any accomplices … my children are taken by social services.
9:29 Far left protesters offended by everything are marching down the street demanding for me to be beheaded.

Moral : there is not moral to this story. It’s just the world in which we live today!
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March 10, 2018 9:33am
- realityczech
  
  This sort of thing is really happening all around world as we write in all countries that have allowed themselves to become femanised.
  
  This sickness is characterised by subjective emotions being placed before facts and logic. The Western world has become an intellectual death zone.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:40am
  - waikatogirl
    
    A woman interviewed on International Wimmins Day was asked if she felt women had succeeded in their rights to be treated equally? She stated we have come a long way but the need is not just to reach equality but lead from the front.
    
    Is that not replacing a dominant “patriarchy” with a dominant matriarchy. ?
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:02am
- stephieboy
  
  tf78, whats your vision for a NWO ?
  
  This ?,
  
  https://www.hulu.com/the-handmaids-tale
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:55am
  - tf78
    
    1984 is my nightmare – (which is a vision). I’m afraid we are nearly there in our NWO aided and abetted by our one and only COL. Watch our young university attendees become indoctrinated by the lefty so called professors.
    
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    March 10, 2018 4:11pm
- howitis
  
  Sadly, that actually is the British police today.
  In five years (or less) it may be the case here.
  
  A precursor is a government that won’t front nor even answer questions.
  Next will be deployment of the cops to enforce this, plus draconian enforcement of inequitable taxes.
  A glimpse of this inequity: This week the pregnant people’s princess has been swanning around giving our taxpayers money away to other countries with generally very corrupt government while our own flood ravaged taxpayers are told to walk the plank.
  
  People like to bag Muldoon but the current crowd have the ingredients to re-enact the 1981 police state and oddly enough the people who protested that (Clarkenfuhrer and Goff) are the ones who will want protection from the unwashed masses this time.
  There is a lot more at stake than a couple of games of footy.
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:32am
VicParking

Friend of mine visited and after a look around was thinking of moving from Auckland to Whanganui.
Plan: Sell his house in Mt Roskill, buy three in Whanganui (One to live, two to rent). Get a lessor paid job, Wife a nurse so no issues there he thought.
Problem: No jobs in Whanganui, even in middle management. Wife said she would rather divorce him than work at Whanganui Hospital. Seems for some reason it has a terrible reputation, which I can vouch for as I waited one and a half hours for a blood test on Monday. All this and Robbo’s New taxes means he will stay in Auckland and buy a new Volvo to commiserate.
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March 10, 2018 9:36am
- KiWombat
  
  Hint VP
  
  Tell him to move to Wanganui instead !
  
  Jobs might magically appear then !
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:44am
- KKKKatee
  
  They should consider going to New Plymouth then. He can have one house and rent out the other. It’s a fabulous place. Lots of things to do. Good job opportunities there as well. And an excellent hospital. Can’t recommend New Plymouth highly enough.
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:10am
  - Inandout
    
    You did have a born again Maori Mayor for a while though, Christ you guys were lucky to get shod of him.
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:50am
  - VicParking
    
    You are properly right. Might move there myself once I finish doing up the house
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:50am
- nasska
  
  Sounds as if your mate’s a bit picky. If he currently resides in Mt Roskillstan he should be grateful if he could find a state house & a job on the nightcart in Invercargill! 🙂
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:18am
  - VicParking
    
    House worth 2mil nothing but white faces in the street. You must live on the wrong side of Mt Roskill.
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:53am
    - stephieboy
      
      A bog majority with pale faces .
      
      Mt Roskill “ stan “ paranoid fantasy land .
      
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      March 10, 2018 11:58am
Duxton

Can’t wait for tomorrow night!

Clarke Gayford, the famous (NZ-wide, at least) tourist, fisherman and bludger extraordinaire, and apparent father to the First Bastard, is the weekly guest on Newstalk ZB’s ‘Just Talk’.

I can only imagine what pearls of wisdom will be passed down to us mere mortals.
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March 10, 2018 9:39am
- Manolo
  
  Another reason to turn the radio off.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:51am
- KKKKatee
  
  He’ become famous and in-demand overnight due to his relationship with the PM. On his own, he’s a rather uninspiring bloke who probably wouldn’t have ended up on the wireless.
  Although he does think he’s a legend in his own undies, I believe.
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:12am
  - RF
    
    Super stud…….
    
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    March 10, 2018 6:53pm
- Nukuleka
  
  Did they ever have Mary English or Bronagh Key on this programme? What the hell is going on? The MSM are so quick to flay American politics and its focus on the celebrity status of the unelected First Lady, yet here they are promoting this tosser as though he is ‘someone’.
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:15am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Unfortunately I could only give you one uptick. Almost worth setting up another 10 profiles just to give your comment the recognition that it deserves!
    
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    March 10, 2018 10:21am
  - nasska
    
    The MSM never had a chance to focus on Mary English or Bronagh Key……both avoided publicity like the plague.
    
    Then along comes lover boy Gayford. The jerk could never attract the publicity he craves but by shacking up with Chompers he gets his attention fix.
    
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    March 10, 2018 10:25am
    - lifesgood
      
      You watch…he won’t be with her once she is bowled.
      And that can’t come soon enough.
      
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      March 10, 2018 1:20pm
- stephieboy
  
  Duxton ,” First Bastard, “ ?
  
  Like William the Conquerer of Hastings fame ?
  
  As if most out there actually care !
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:58am
  - backster
    
    But maybe the child himself will , as he is progressing through school.
    
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    March 10, 2018 2:33pm
- GazzaW
  
  ‘Just Talk’ has to be hosted by one of ZB’s pet lefties.
  
  I might have been more interested if it was Larry Williams interviewing Gaylord.
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:37am
- VicParking
  
  “Can’t talk about that, not one of the Questions you sent me”. “Speared a few fish while on the junket, boy did they suffer”. “We really roughed it, one hotel did not have AirCon”. “Boy Winston can put it away”. There you wont need to turn on the radio
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:58am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Downtick for the ‘bastard’ insult and ‘apparent father’ (insult to Taxinda). Come on, folks, can’t you see that such insults are really bringing this blog down?
  
  Up to you, of course, but I’d much rather we criticised Taxinda on her Socialist Youth past and current actions as PM.
  
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  March 10, 2018 1:16pm
  - KiWombat
    
    – – and perhaps on not answering truthfully ?
    
    Clever though, there is a distinct difference between a liar and one who does not tell the truth !
    
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    March 10, 2018 1:39pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Thanks for letting me know that, Duxton.
  I’ll make a point of missing it.
  
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  March 10, 2018 7:02pm
EAD_TWO

Fcuk me the MSM is really beyond the pale when it comes to their psychotic attacks on Trump as this time they lash out for using the word “Globalist” and describing it as “far-right”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/03/09/the-far-right-slur-at-the-heart-of-trumps-economic-agenda/?utm_term=.3b1976cf5a8c

The Globalists really are immunised against all dangers: one may call them a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off them like water off a raincoat. But call them a Globalist and you will be astonished at how quickly they recoil and say “I’ve been found out”
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March 10, 2018 9:47am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Ann Coulter calling out the Globalists (whilst making sure she doesn’t have the ADL come after her for a “hate crime”)
  
  https://mobile.twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/971984922142416896
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:07am
- itstricky
  
  You can’t say that ‘globalist’ isn’t something that was redefined and exclusively adopted by nationalists.
  
  You also can’t argue that Trump didn’t pick up the use of that term and use its newly defined symbolic meaning in his election campaign.
  
  Time will tell. Economic protectionism for the sake of what seems like a slogan, whilst ignoring the other factors that have lead to any downturn seems pretty shortsighted.
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:58am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD OLF , any thoughts on Gary Cohn’s resignation ?
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:01am
  - VicParking
    
    Clean out the swamp. A Dem use them then toss them out
    
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    March 10, 2018 12:02pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Ummm… Gary Cohn was the President’s appointment !
      
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      March 10, 2018 3:33pm
kevn

@ everyone… “She said to her, go for the islands, give them all the dosh they want and more. That is your labour voter support sorted and strengthened. Nelson/Motueka areas post Gita… forget about doing too much there, no labour vote support anyway”.
What other reason can there be in ignoring our top ‘o the South Island friends? They had a hard hit from Gita.
Now they get a kick in the guts from JA with her islands handout.
CoLosers…
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March 10, 2018 10:19am
- niggly
  
  And let’s not forget Winnie, even wearing colourful shirts, being part of this multi million dollar lolly scramble.
  
  This can be remembered come next election campaign when he dusts off the NZF Bus and tours the regions for 6 weeks saying “vote for me to hold the major parties to account”!
  
  Sorry NZF but you didn’t and what’s the bet the NZF bus will bypass Nelson/Motueka etc?
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:19am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    I certainly won’t be voting for Tonga First no matter how good a campaign the Tonga First bus runs
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:59am
  - Paulus
    
    Winston looked like a real Burk all dressed up native style with a hat covering his toupee to stop it being blown off.
    
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    March 10, 2018 1:41pm
- Piniwi
  
  But kevn it is like visiting a friend who is interred at the local cemetery with a six pack on the anniversary of his tragic death. Drink 3 and pour the other 3 on his grave leaving the six empties in a row when you leave.
  Compared to mega millions from China with the attached strings yet to become visual where the administrators largess is first off the pile similar to TOW pay-outs. Resulting in absolutely no voter influence there but even the comparative small amounts from NZ makes the very expensive votes.
  
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  March 10, 2018 3:57pm
Lance

On the TV 3 political program this morning dear Winston said anyone who doesn’t agree with him is a moron.
Literally

He’s all class
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March 10, 2018 10:40am
- MCos
  
  That brings him into line with everyone on Kiwiblog.
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:49am
  - howitis
    
    So Mcos likes to lie with the dogs in order to get up with flees!
    
    This might help:-
    https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Pet-Supplies-Dog-Flea-Powders/zgbs/pet-supplies/2975388011
    
    https://topdogtips.com/best-dog-flea-powder/
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/cutestuff/67215009/five-easy-ways-to-get-rid-of-fleas
    Tip 4: lefties stay off Kiwiblog!
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:57am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    You’ve just sledged yourself MCos
    
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    March 10, 2018 12:01pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Especially you..
    
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    March 10, 2018 1:47pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And here was I thinking that anyone who votes for him is a moron.
  
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  March 10, 2018 10:50am
  - stephieboy
    
    CM , bet there were alt righters here on Kiwiblog who voted for his party . If not for him
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:04am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Sqwawk!
      
      Alt-right – Sqwawk!
      
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      March 10, 2018 11:11am
      - stephieboy
        
        See the example just above !
        
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        March 10, 2018 11:15am
      - GazzaW
        
        Great to see that ztev is hanging on in there to uptick you stephie or should I say ‘no-mates stephie’? Is Willis House arranging back-up during ztev’s exile or are they just arranging a new sign in for him?
        
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        March 10, 2018 11:24am
    - Humble Capitalist
      
      Never voted Tonga First in my life
      
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      March 10, 2018 12:02pm
- G152
  
  You have to admit when Winnie sees a moron he knows it immediately.
  He keeps one in his shaving mirror
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:28am
- RF
  
  What a tight arse.
  
  With all his Govt perks he still has to apply for his pension. Just another Johnathon Hunt.
  
  No class. Just a greedy little prick.
  
  Moron
  
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  March 10, 2018 4:06pm
softail 1450

everyone on this blog has forgotten the enormous benefit of this labour party ,a countrywide loved baby in a couple of months ffs .
forget about taxes and legalised central and regional government ripoffs we have a baby to fawn over,yeeee haaaa .
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March 10, 2018 10:44am
softail 1450

and an airforce mate tells me that airforce1 is being fitted with baby friendly facilities for baby and the wet nurse gayford ,i kid you not.
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March 10, 2018 10:48am
- fernglas
  
  Just like its American counterpart?
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:31am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Is DT planning on ferrying the PM and her family about?
  Methinks you might have misspoke.
  
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  March 10, 2018 7:08pm
kevn

I am finding it hard, no impossible, to wish JA well. Her on-going deceitful performances knock me out.
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March 10, 2018 11:01am
- niggly
  
  It is deceitful but worse of all she has no f**king idea but covers that by playing the actor role as “smile and laugh” PM Select.
  
  A few days ago in Tonga the PM Select said she was astonished at the amount of damage done during Cyclone Gita … even weeks later. Idiot! When Cyclone Winston hit Fiji two years ago National dispatched the NZDF and aid groups to get in there pronto and rebuild.
  
  Meanwhile the idiot PM Select can’t seem to get it into her thick skull that it is her that needs to actually step up and take control – she should have ordered the NZDF to assist with Tonga, Nelson, Motueka etc, weeks ago! And she still hasn’t dispatched them (instead she took the opportunity to play Santa Claus throwing out development money! How will any of that actually help with getting children back into damaged classrooms to re-start learning)?
  
  Like I say she has no f**king idea!
  
  Prediction: unless she steps down once the baby is born (thus maintaining her MSM posidividy bubble), she will end up going down as NZ’s worst PM in recent times, as more everyday Kiwi’s are starting to see her lack of substance in managing NZ’s most demanding and public role and start to turn against her!
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:42am
  - kevn
    
    @nigg… You are on to it. Just platitudes and money chucking (= vote snares) to the islands.
    NZer’s? Sorry…
    
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    March 10, 2018 12:00pm
    - niggly
      
      Plus her timing was out.
      
      They had been hit hard by a cyclone, the first thing she should have done (to which the Islanders would have been grateful for) was to get NZ in and help with the clean-up and rebuild. (Like National always did).
      
      She could have done the Santa Claus money scramble tour another time (it would have been icing on the cake for the Islanders once their homes and schools had been rebuilt).
      
      The cynical in me also thinks the clueless Idiot PM Select is being played by Winston, for only a couple of weeks ago he said NZ should be doing more to counter China in the Pacific and lo and behold here are the COL on a Pacific ATM dispensing tour (with Clarke in tow seen catching Tuna and diving with whales as a holiday bonus)!
      
      Idiotic COL, once that’s done the Tongans (King and DPM) who are in China, are probably asking for more loan money to assist with the post Cyclone Gita rebuild!
      
      Another COL-led Foreign Affairs massive fail for NZ?
      
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      March 10, 2018 12:11pm
  - GazzaW
    
    She hasn’t even set up a working group yet.
    
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    March 10, 2018 12:50pm
    - Piniwi
      
      But GazzaW the acting PM has is going to set one up for freedom camping but has to wait for the Dreary Queen to come back as he is not sure what in means. He thought it was a group on convicts on PD doing clean ups.
      
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      March 10, 2018 4:02pm
stephieboy

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kevn,

“deceitful performances ”

Such as ?
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March 10, 2018 11:05am
- GazzaW
  
  How about ‘transparency’ for starters stephie?
  
  I’m sure that KBers will willingly compile a list for you.
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:20am
  - stephieboy
    
    Gazza W , you and others go for it !
    
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    March 10, 2018 12:00pm
    - Duxton
      
      10,000 new houses per year.
      100,000,000 trees planted per year.
      Pike River access in first 100 days.
      Most transparent govt ever…..and then refused to release the coalition agreement.
      
      Back to the cricket.
      
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      March 10, 2018 1:43pm
      - Humble Capitalist
        
        Transparent performance from the Black Caps so far. Think they’ll be having a conversation about this batting performance
        
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        March 10, 2018 1:55pm
- VicParking
  
  “No strikes under my watch”
  Morning Stephie did you get COXIELLA as a Kid.
  ??
  
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  March 10, 2018 12:08pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Not if he was born in NZ.
    
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    March 10, 2018 1:15pm
Kimbo

Ross Taylor not playing today. Good decision. Ross needs to be given every chance to be fit for the upcoming test series, and we can beat these guys if we are firing on all cylinders. It has been a great ODI series, but in a few months no one will remember who won. Not so the upcoming test series, and it will stand out like a beacon.

We’ve only ever won three test series against England, and only once in New Zealand, in 1983-84. Can remember that series like it was yesterday –

…great fight back by NZ to draw the first test in Wellington,

…and then in the second Hadlee’s swashbuckling 99, then we bowled them out for less than 100 in both innings.

…Then we batted them out of the last test.

…First test centuries in that series for Martin Crowe, Jeremy Coney (way overdue!), Jeff Crowe and Ian Smith.

…Stephen Boock getting a wicket with his first ball back in test cricket after over 3 years out,

…Lance Cairns taking his 100th test wicket in Wellington then hanging around with Coney for a two hour 9th wicket partnership on the last day that saved the match,

…Welington’s English import Tony Piggott cancelling his upcoming wedding scheduled for the following Monday to answer a last minute call up to play for England, but he could have gone through with it because the test in Christchurch was over by the Sunday,

…Beefy Botham, past his best as a bowler but still taking a five-for and blasting a century in the first test, but bowling long hops in the 2nd that Hadlee carved up,

….Derek Randell scoring two centuries,

…Geoff Howarth out-captaining Bob Willis. Can never take Willis seriously as a commentator having seen his captaincy. Anyone who wins the toss in a test in Adelaide and then bowls needs to be ignored forever! ?
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March 10, 2018 11:06am
- Kimbo
  
  Oh, yes and we lost the ODI series 1-2 in 1983-84, although Martin Crowe also scored his first ODI century when we won the last game.
  
  But no one remembers that, or even that it was the Ian Botham dope smoking tour, just that test series win. Which is why it was the right and the only decision not to play Ross Taylor today, and they never seriously contemplated the possibility.
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:16am
  - PhilBest
    
    Just watching Milo Yiannopoulos HERE:
    
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/03/no-more-mr-nice-gay/
    
    And at 13 minutes 30 seconds, he uses the term “Vichy Conservatives”. HAH!!!!
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:21am
    - stephieboy
      
      Phil Best , “Vichy Conservatives”.
      
      Useful new term for alt right “.
      
      Vichy alt right HAH!!!!”
      
      BTW did he expand on his preference for below consent gays ?
      
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      March 10, 2018 12:05pm
      - PhilBest
        
        What an idiot. In what sense is the alt right “Vichy”? Did you even listen to Milo? He was talking about the squishy sellouts to the progressive Left, on the so-called “centre right”.
        
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        March 11, 2018 6:39pm
- VicParking
  
  Sorry Williamson might be a great player but he is a piss poor captain.
  
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  March 10, 2018 12:10pm
  - Kimbo
    
    How so?
    
    He can’t bat, bowl or field for others, so he can only work with what he has got in the team And it is a fact of life that the form of players does fluctuate. Sure, Williamson may be called on to motivate his players of various personal temperaments, but how they perform and whether they succeed is not a necessarily a direct correlation with captaincy skill. Put it this way, a player can be motivated, focused and sufficiently skilled, but still fail on any given day. Is part of the vagaries and attraction of sport, especially at the highest level.
    
    Bowling changes and field settings, along with occasional changes in the batting order, as well as what to do when you win the toss are the things a skipper can directly control, and are the thing outsiders can immediately see and assess.
    
    So in which of those is Williamson deficient? Not saying you are wrong, but interested to know why you think that. He does not seem as bold as McCallum, but few are! And sometimes McCullum’s captaincy gambles didn’t come off…
    
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    March 10, 2018 12:30pm
    - Kimbo
      
      …and I note that de Grandhomme just holed out again, and has been replaced at the wicket by Santner. Given the differing way that they play their natural game – de Grandhomme is a block-bash striker, while Santner is an accumulator who works singles and twos and only hits the occasional boundary – there was a case given the state of the game where there are still plenty of overs to go, for Williamson (and coach Hesson) to switch them in the batting order.
      
      Then again, if de Grandhomme had hung around until the end of the innings he would likely have had a hundred, and we would have posted a very competitive total.
      
      So it’s not fair to judge captaincy by the immediate success or failure of a decision. But sure, if the failures accumulate, when, in light of the known facts and probabilities, on balance other better decisions would have been justified…
      
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      March 10, 2018 1:01pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        de Grandhomme is useless on a big ground. Thinks every whack is going to go for six like at Eden Park and when it fails to reach the rope it gets caught.
        I don’t understand why he doesn’t hit them along the ground for four.
        
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        March 10, 2018 4:25pm
    - VicParking
      
      Decisions. Take game two last over. Gave up a single and therefore had to hit a six. No confidence in the batsman at the other end Evan though he was in the 40’s. had to do it himself or not at all.
      Other numerous examples like this.
      
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      March 10, 2018 2:48pm
      - Kimbo
        
        That’s the one in Wellington where he was trying to hit something ridiculous like 30 off the last two, and 18 off the last over…with tail enders at the other end?! With the odds and the quality of the English bowling and fielding, yes, he had to stay on strike because he was the one equipped to hit the boundaries necessary to win. The damage was done before then, because some 95% of the time the fielding team would win in that situation anyway. And if he had hit the runs he’d be lauded as a genius.
        
        Shit, if that is the level of your tactical appreciation, I’m glad Williamson is skipper, and not you! ?
        
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        March 10, 2018 3:27pm
- Duxton
  
  Another little factoid from that series. In the Third Test, Ian Smith achieved the following off four consecutive balls:
  
  – Brought up his maiden test on.
  – Hit two sixes.
  – Took a catch to dismiss the England opener for a golden duck.
  
  It’s a sequence that will probably never be repeated.
  
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  March 10, 2018 1:49pm
GazzaW

Is Colin Munro taking the piss? Have we ever seen two such fuckwitted batting efforts in succession? And Munro wants to make a career out of ODIs and 20/20s!
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March 10, 2018 11:07am
Hugh Pavletich

HAS FINANCE MINISTER ROBERTSON READ LABOUR’S HOUSING POLICY YET ? …

Robertson seeks investment community help for new ideas on funding infrastructure | The National Business Review

https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/robertson-seeks-investment-community-help-new-ideas-funding-infrastructure-b-213622

Finance Minister Grant Robertson wants to draw on the experience of the country’s investment community to find new ways to fund major infrastructure, which will exceed the government’s ability to foot the bill. … read more via hyperlink above …

… Interest Co NZ February 19th, 2018 report … is Finance Minister Robertson aware of this ?

Housing Minister Phil Twyford says he’s planning a workshopping event for representatives of the finance community and players in the development and construction sector to help crack NZ’s problems around infrastructure financing | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/92190/housing-minister-phil-twyford-says-hes-planning-workshopping-event-representatives

The Government is planning to bring together players from the finance community with people representing development and construction interests to hammer out a plan to solve New Zealand’s infrastructure financing problems. … read more via hyperlink above …

… New Zealand Labour Housing Policy …

… When do the Nation Party Opposition and journalists intend to ask Finance Minister Robertson and Housing & Transport Minister Twyford the two questions below ? …

Housing – New Zealand Labour Party

http://www.labour.org.nz/housing

… extract …

… Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out

Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds. … read more via hyperlink above …

1. What date are the Auckland urban limits to be removed ?

2. What date is the bond financing of infrastructure nationally to be introduced ?
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March 10, 2018 11:38am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  AUSTRALIA: Homebuyers are paying a heavy price for zoning restrictions: Reserve Bank … Sydney Morning Herald
  
  https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/homebuyers-are-paying-a-heavy-price-for-zoning-restrictions-reserve-bank-20180308-p4z3fc.html
  
  Government zoning of residential areas has pushed the average property price up by 40 per cent in Sydney and Melbourne, fuelling inequality and locking out new homeowners from the property market, the Reserve Bank has found. Read more via hyperlink above …
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  What are the Australians learning from the New Zealanders ?
  
  Co – author Hugh Pavletich comments within the Introduction Section of this year’s 14th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey (access Survey for article hyperlinks if necessary) …
  
  2018 14th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey
  
  http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf
  
  ‘My home country New Zealand is the global leader in dealing with political impediments, so that the supply of new affordable housing is restored.
  
  The public conversation to restore affordable housing began in earnest early 2005, with the release of the 1st Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey .
  
  Back in 2007, then Opposition Leader (now Sir) John Key made it clear within this interview that lack of land supply was the major problem.
  
  This has been a near 14 year process of evolutionary change, with the engagement of the public and responsible media.
  
  In turn this has pressured politicians to respond.
  
  Public opinion is the driver, as increasing numbers of New Zealanders better understand the true costs of unnecessary politically induced housing inflation to themselves and their wider families.
  
  The initial advocacy phase ran through to October 2012, with the major Government announcement to focus on land supply, infrastructure financing, process and construction costs.
  
  Over recent years broader consensus ( more , more ) has taken place.
  
  To illustrate further, just prior to Christmas 2017, Stephen Sellwood of Infrastructure New Zealand and Bill Evans of major builder Flatcher Living repeated again, that the focus must be on land supply and the appropriate debt financing of infrastructure.
  
  We are now moving to the implementation phase, with a recent change to a centre – left Labour led reformist government.
  
  Historically in New Zealand, Labour has been the political party of reform.
  
  More extensive information is available at my archival website Performance Urban Planning . Note in particular the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern / Housing Minister Phil Twyford section near the top of the=is website, to better understand the new governments proposals to restore affordable housing.’
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:43am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “the new governments proposals to restore affordable housing.”
    
    Surely you jest. These idiots have no idea.
    
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    March 10, 2018 11:57am
    - stephieboy
      
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      CP , then you contribute your ideas
      
      Go for it or put up and shut up !
      
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      March 10, 2018 12:01pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Who is CP?
        
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        March 10, 2018 12:06pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Labour sure is lucky having such a limp – wristed Opposition !
        
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        March 10, 2018 12:08pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Who is MW ?
        
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        March 10, 2018 3:34pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        We know who you are
        
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        March 10, 2018 4:23pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Housing researchers … do read these papers …
        
        The Effect of Zoning on Housing Prices
        
        https://www.rba.gov.au/publications/rdp/2018/pdf/rdp2018-03.pdf
        
        Ross Kendall and Peter Tulip
        Research Discussion Paper
        2018-03
        March 2018
        Economic Research Department
        Reserve Bank of Australia
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        The Economic Implications of Housing Supply
        
        https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/jep.32.1.3
        
        Edward Glaeser and Joseph Gyourko
        
        For most of US history, local economic booms were matched by local building booms. Into the 1960s, building was lightly regulated almost everywhere. Much housing was built in all high demand areas, including coastal California and New York City. However, between the 1960s and the 1990s, it became far more difficult to build in some areas with strong economic growth, especially those along the coasts. For example, there were 13,000 new housing units permitted in Manhattan in the single year of 1960 alone, which is nearly two-thirds of the 21,000 new units permitted throughout the decade of the 1990s (Glaeser, Gyourko, and Saks 2005). Higher economic productivity in the San Francisco Bay area, with its extensive restrictions on land use and building, now leads primarily to higher housing prices, rather than more homes and more workers (Ganong and Shoag 2013). In this … read more via hyperlink above …
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        Note too extensive discussion over at the MacroBusiness Australia thread … above and below this link …
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/weekend-reading-10-11-march-2018/#comment-3065247
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/links-8-march-2018/#comment-3064436
        
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        March 11, 2018 2:23am
    - Humble Capitalist
      
      Thanks for the read you’ve inspired me to buy a $2 million dollar house in Auckland. Or was that old tropical holiday money bags that inspired me?
      
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      March 10, 2018 12:08pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
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    … These problems have been staring us in the face for years … indeed decades … IT IS WELL PAST TIME FOR ACTION ! …
    
    AUSTRALIA: Zoning regulations adding hundreds of thousands dollars to price of new houses: RBA – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-08/zoning-regulations-adding-fortune-to-land-prices/9527882
    
    Fancy handing over an extra $500,000 for your brand new house just because government regulations restrict the supply of land for property
    
    No? Too bad, because that is the effective tax extracted for the average new house-and-land package in Sydney due to the impact of zoning regulations.
    
    It’s not just Sydney. … read more via hyperlink above …
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    Back early 2005 … 13+ years ago … I explained in $ terms, the whopping differences at the time between Houston and Sydney … within the 1st Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey …
    
    International Housing Affordability Rankings: Pavletich Properties Press Release
    
    http://www.demographia.com/dhi-pavrls.htm
    
    Demographia: International Housing Affordabilty: February 2005 Issue
    
    http://www.demographia.com/dhi-200502.htm
    
    … extract …
    
    … Lets compare Houston, USA and Sydney, Australia. Expressed in local currencies, the median household incomes for both cities were, during 2004 ( in local currencies ) $50,400 and $57,100, with median house prices of $138,350 and $505,000 respectively. So it would take 8.8 years of median household income for a Sydneyite to purchase a median priced home, but just 2.7 years of median household income for an Houstonian.
    
    Expressed another way, if the Sydneyite on the median household income, was to get the same deal as her counterpart in Houston, she should only be required to pay 2.7 times her household income of $57,100 – that is $154,170 ( $57,100 x 2.7 ), some $350,830 ( $505,000 – $154,170 ) less than she is currently forced to pay. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    March 10, 2018 12:45pm
    - Happychappy
      
      Hugh the only one that is limp-wristed is a wanker like you.
      
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      March 10, 2018 6:39pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Happychappy … The newly appointed National Party leader Simon Bridges did mutter something about the National Party (yawn) supporting open markets and free enterprise … that sort of thing.
        
        Difficult I know, when most members are addicted to requiring economic wet – nursing !
        
        Have you heard of free markets at all ?
        
        Here is what John Key said about the housing crisis back in 2007 … when he was pointing out the failings of Labour pre the 2008 election (Auckland housing was 6.4 times incomes then … 10 times when he bailed 2016) ! …
        
        PM John Key on Housing Reform 2007 – YouTube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
        
        He was of course THE HOUSING HYPOCTRITE and political fake … who not surprisingly did a Captain Costa Concordia late 2016 … as set out in the GONE GONE GOING (now GONE) section of my archival website Performance Urban Planning http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
        
        My sense is that history will show that John Key was the architect of the destruction of the National Party. He zombied it !
        
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        March 10, 2018 7:57pm
- VicParking
  
  Flip Flop, Flip Flop he sounds like one of Gayfords fish
  
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  March 10, 2018 12:12pm
kevn

@hugh… “labour led reformist gummint” What a fukcn joke surely.
They are lost from the top down. We see it almost daily.
CoLosers. That sums it up. Add winnie = joke. ganggreen = another joke.
Problem is the joke is on Nzer’s.
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March 10, 2018 11:58am
- stephieboy
  
  kevn , after that garbled nonsense , next ?
  
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  March 10, 2018 12:02pm
  - kevn
    
    @septicboy… Your english is getting better. Punctuation and comprehension not so good.
    Time you got a job.
    
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    March 10, 2018 12:15pm
    - Manolo
      
      Not quite. The superfluous space after the comma gives the game away.
      
      Ignoramuses of the world, unite!
      
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      March 10, 2018 12:34pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Hey it’s not that bad, this was the best read of my morning…
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/102120491/freshwater-rights-are-back-on-the-agenda-but-the-government-is-divided
  
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  March 10, 2018 1:51pm
Humble Capitalist

The Socialist Republic of Aotearoa are really struggling in this cricket match
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March 10, 2018 12:12pm
- James Stephenson
  
  One man team
  La-la-la
  One man team
  La-la-la
  
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  March 10, 2018 12:21pm
  - GazzaW
    
    Agreed. Add Ross Taylor’s 180 to the probable total today and it should add up to about what NZ scored on Tuesday. In other words nothing has changed. The English bowling has been excellent but we have seen some shocking batting today.
    
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    March 10, 2018 1:09pm
- stephieboy
  
  When will the socialist Republic collectivise Agriculture ?
  
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  March 10, 2018 12:55pm
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    4 of the 6 wickets to the slower bowlers. Once again New Zealand falls for spin
    
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    March 10, 2018 1:02pm
Manolo

Love between barbarian brothers:
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13961218001096

Early reports said the raiders are four men who have opened their way into the embassy premises, while threatening people on the scene with machetes and baseball bats. The London Police have reportedly deployed around the embassy but took no action in the first couple of hours after the attack.

The slogans chanted by the raiders indicate that they are members of Sadeq Shirazi Shiite extremist sect, supported by London.
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March 10, 2018 12:32pm
All_on_Red

I see 7 Dems are in trouble for their support of notorious anti Semite, Hitler loving Louis Farrakhan.
Based on some of things our resident Islam and Hitler fan Stephiebile/Ralph says, I guess he’s with them.
Fortunately extremists like Stephie/Ralph with their fringe opinions are an exception in our NZ society.
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March 10, 2018 1:03pm
- stephieboy
  
  All on Wed Hearing ZZZZZZZZZzzz..
  
  Sent your own blueprints for Mexican wall to a bemused White House ?
  
  “We do get our fair share of cranks , crack pots ” sighs the First lady .
  
  “Enough here with hubby and his cronies ”
  
  LMAO !
  
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  March 10, 2018 1:13pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Waaaycist!
    Mysoginist!
    Anti Semite!
    Must be time for a reprise of PERVWATCH
    Lest we forget eh, Ralph.
    I see the new Roster for St Albans Church is out.
    Wonder how long it’s going to take for Ralph/Stephieboy/St Albans Church/PERVWATCH to start showing on google searches…
    Awwwwkwaaaaard.
    
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    March 10, 2018 1:19pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Wed , my fellow Auckland hows the chronic constipation ?
      
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      March 10, 2018 3:36pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        You’re the one who’s full of s*** with your extremist views Ralph/Stephiebile.
        
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        March 10, 2018 4:26pm
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy , needs more english lessons, or reading recovery time.
    
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    March 10, 2018 1:31pm
Morrissey

Was National a “good economic manager”?

http://www.union.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/CTU-Monthly-Economic-Bulletin-197-February-2018.pdf
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March 10, 2018 1:51pm
- cmm
  
  CTU blaah, blaah, blaah
  
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  March 10, 2018 3:45pm
Jack5

Have I overlooked MSM reports on potential effects on NZ of any Trump hit on NZ aluminium exports, which bring in nearly a billion dollars a year.

Then will there be any effects on NZ steel?

Trump is talking of exempting Australia from tariffs on its steel and aluminium.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/09/trump-says-australia-could-be-exempt-from-steel-aluminum-tariffs.html
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March 10, 2018 2:00pm
Morrissey

Trump is talking of exempting Australia from tariffs..

Special treatment for lapdogs?
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March 10, 2018 2:03pm
- DigNap15
  
  NO! special treatment for good friends.
  
  See what the USA thinks of Jacinda!
  Its not good.
  
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  March 10, 2018 2:49pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Yep. So file that away next time the Americans want us to help them out in places like Afghanistan, or their foolish incursion into Iraq chasing after nonexistent WMDs.
    
    “Hello, Mr President. You want us to send our elite SIS for special ops, and place some of our other troops in harms way to help clean up your country’s messes? You don’t remember our then-Prime Minister Helen Clark telling your then-President George W Bush not to go into Iraq without multilateral backing? Well, unless it’s in our interest, that’s a big beautiful ‘Fuck you’, Mr President. And we know you’ll just love us for that answer”. ?
    
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    March 10, 2018 3:13pm
  - RF
    
    Whats this… Peters is confident USA will do a trade deal with NZ after Commie chick rubbished Trump.
    
    Plus to get Russia on side he does not agree that they played in any part in downing the passenger aircraft.
    
    What is he smoking….
    
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    March 10, 2018 3:58pm
    - Kimbo
      
      He is channeling his mentor, Rob Muldoon’s pragmatic approach to foreign affairs. The only considerations that determines our international positions, policies and pronouncements are our military security…and trade prospects.
      
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      March 10, 2018 4:18pm
    - Happychappy
      
      Corrupt politicians wanting to do deals with another corrupt Country. How low can we go.
      
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      March 10, 2018 6:31pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Well, not this low, I trust.
        https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/mar/09/national-disgrace-fury-over-100m-aid-deal-between-uk-and-saudi-arabia
        
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        March 10, 2018 7:12pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Our bereft government needs to learn the meaning of the word ‘diplomacy’.
  
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  March 10, 2018 3:10pm
- GazzaW
  
  @Morrissey.
  
  Woof, woof!! On behalf of the shareholders of Meridian whose electricity is used to smelt Australian aluminium at Tiwai Point I salute you Donald for the continuation of our dividends.
  
  Given that the Government as 51% stakeholder the NZ taxpayer will also benefit mightily to the tune of tens of millions.
  
  You should be grateful Morrissey & not critical of Turnbull. Unintended consequences maybe but we’ll take it.
  
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  March 10, 2018 7:26pm
Morrissey

A riveting memoir of Gaza under Israeli attack

Reading Maimonides in Gaza by MARILYN GARSON

To witness is to dig your heels in and refuse to un-learn what you have seen.

I grew up in Halifax, Canada. In 1986, I discovered the backpack and immigrated to New Zealand. From 1998 – 2015, I worked with communities that are trapped and marginalized by war: Cambodian child combatants and people with disabilities, homebound Afghan women. I met them through their ambitions, and we built social enterprises to create jobs.

Mercy Corps, an American humanitarian organization, asked me to move to Gaza in 2011 as their Economic Director. I stayed four years, with Mercy Corps and then UNRWA. I worked with Gazan businesses and job-seekers, and co-founded the Gaza Gateway social enterprise for outsourcing employment.

I went as a professional. However, working in Gaza through the 2014 Operation Protective Edge as part of UNRWA’s emergency response team, I became a witness to Israel’s wilful strategy of massive civilian displacement and the madness of its bombing campaign. I compiled the notices that ensured the IDF knew the precise location of each flagged civilian shelter – seven of which were bombed.

I write to add adjectives to our understanding of a hidden community, and to demand justice for what is being done to two million human beings behind those walls.

Reading Maimonides in Gaza is my story. I’m grateful to Mondoweiss for publishing it!

Excerpt, late July, 2014, midway through Operation Protective Edge:

“In the final days of July, the shelter population exceeded 200,000. 2400 people shared each school, eighty resided in each classroom. UNRWA stated publically that the organization was reaching its limit. We sent what supplies we could toward the many, many Gazans who sheltered in other classrooms and mosques and offices and apartments, in tents and on grass verges, and on mats in every courtyard. As they came through the streets to work, UNRWA colleagues were assailed by displaced people, asking where to go for shelter and safety.

Yet the IDF escalated, bombing Jabalia and demanding the evacuation of Zaitoun. Those were dense urban neighbourhoods with hundreds of thousands of residents; where would they go? ….

Read more…
http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/03/09/excerpt-from-a-riveting-personal-memoir-of-gaza-under-israeli-attack/
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March 10, 2018 2:10pm
- Southern Raider
  
  UNRWA as your source. What a joke
  
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  March 10, 2018 11:11pm
cmm

Am I the only person in NZ that does not understand the appeal of Ed Sheeran?

To each their own and all that, but all he seems to do is fly around the world converting fossil fuel into plant food.
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March 10, 2018 2:15pm
- chiz
  
  You’re not alone. Sheeran is just boring with a beard.
  
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  March 10, 2018 2:59pm
- Piniwi
  
  Maybe cmm but he is a very talented singer/songwriter who’s biggest blunder was liking NZ too much so the Media party follow his every move. Plus his surprise appearances and impromptu performances makes him much more real to his fan base. However you are right about looks but it is hard to hide his heritage and roots.
  
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  March 10, 2018 4:20pm
DigNap15

He is not my cup of tea either.
But when you look so ugly
Have silly red hair
And can write so many songs
And can stand in front of a huge stadium on your own
And have all the girls know every word of your songs.
And have a few million in the bank at his age
Then give me a call.
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March 10, 2018 2:52pm
- cmm
  
  So… famous for being famous?
  
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  March 10, 2018 3:12pm
  - Kimbo
    
    No, he is the alleged love child of Mick Hucknall. ?
    
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    March 10, 2018 3:18pm
RF

Will they call the forthcoming addition to NZs royal family a love child ?

It ticks all the boxes…..
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March 10, 2018 3:37pm
MH

After a comment from a well known KBer the Imperial Chinese Govt have announced that they in conjunction with NZ premieress J. Ardern have successfully grafted a silk purse onto a sow’s ear.
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March 10, 2018 3:37pm
GazzaW

Cyclone Hola is still stuck stubbornly off the north coast of New Caledonia. What the hell are they going to talk about on the news tonight?

http://www.windy.com
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March 10, 2018 3:54pm
- Inandout
  
  The news will talk about what happens if it comes here. Then they will show all the agencies you can contact, all the social workers, and an expert on cyclones. Then show old footage of big winds.
  
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  March 10, 2018 4:10pm
- Piniwi
  
  Odd GazzaW but understandable when we see it is traveling about 7km per hour while the MSM have it just over the horizon. Then it you check the Earth Wind site it only looks that close if you zoom out to half the globe.
  It will be interesting if it causes havoc in the top half of the North Island but it might help the COL understand there are lots more disasters than earthquakes that can strike. Lets see how many MP’s rush up North if that happens.
  
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  March 10, 2018 4:28pm
Manolo

Will he make a deal?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyers-seek-deal-with-mueller-to-speed-end-of-russia-probe-1520625944

President Donald Trump’s lawyers are seeking to negotiate a deal with special counsel Robert Mueller that uses an interview with the president as leverage to spur a conclusion to the Russia investigation, according to a person familiar with the discussions.
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March 10, 2018 4:27pm
Happychappy

What a laugh the media are playing the game that Winston Peters might be shoulder tapped to be a mmediate 8 the discussions with the USA and North Koreaeven asking Jancida her thoughts on it. Jacinda said they have always sort a to have a part in bringing peace to the situation and would be happy for Peters to be involved, who do these muffets think they are and surely they don’t think the NZ Public are not intelligent enough to see passed this crap that Winston and the Coalition from he’ll want to push.
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March 10, 2018 5:04pm
Inandout

Trump gets things done, chaos or not, he is producing results. I think the guy thrives in chaos, and it sure is working. Unemployment down, petty regulations discarded, working toward energy self sufficiency, Mexican illegals down, lower taxes, Korean talks and factories producing again. Compared with Obama’s inaction on just about everything, Trump is a winner.
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March 10, 2018 5:22pm
- nasska
  
  Obama was the same as the redistributionists who currently pollute our parliament.
  
  Experts on cake division & masters of promoting fairness but not one of them has a clue about how to create the cake.
  
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  March 10, 2018 5:41pm
  - Inandout
    
    Twyford is a classic example of a flop.
    
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    March 10, 2018 5:56pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes making America great again.
  He is keeping most of his promises.
  Unlike most other career politicians.
  He has started on the wall
  
  Drain the Swamp
  Lock Her Up!
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:56pm
KiWombat

Twitford is proof that evolution can go backwards !
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March 10, 2018 6:59pm
Johnboy

It’s always amazed me how fucking fat Americans are!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/102159148/california-veterans-home-gun-siege-ends-gunman-hostages-dead
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March 10, 2018 7:52pm
- nasska
  
  They’re pathetic JB.
  
  Ever noticed how they walk? About half of them seem to wobble side to side, pushing their weight from one leg to the other like a penguin. 🙂
  
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  March 10, 2018 8:09pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Be careful what you say about penguin’s here on KB nasska! 🙂
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:15pm
    - nasska
      
      Only a few of us could remember the demerits associated with mentioning our shortish, feathered friends in the wrong context JB. 🙂
      
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      March 10, 2018 8:22pm
      - Johnboy
        
        I have noted that the happy fomented penguin has disappeared since the fitness routine took over nasska! Makes me feel tired just thinking about getting fit enough for Everest! 🙂
        
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        March 10, 2018 8:28pm
  - DigNap15
    
    There are a lot of kiwi who have the same attributes. And they often waddle around with their disgusting huge bellies sticking out as if they are proud of it. (just saying)
    
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    March 10, 2018 8:54pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Just check out the Manukau or Queensgate shopping centres and you’ll find he’s telling the truth.
      
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      March 10, 2018 9:54pm
- Inandout
  
  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2651983/cruel-meme-victim-who-tipped-scooter-in-walmart-blasts-online-bullies-after-becoming-cruel-internet-joke/
  
  https://downtrend.com/robertgehl/no-fatties-allowed-at-naked-restaurant/
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:58pm
Jack5

Now the United Nations is acting as an international housing standards enforcer.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5484341/Britain-broken-human-rights-law-Grenfell-says-envoy.html
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March 10, 2018 8:48pm
DigNap15

I am sick of hearing “human rights” every time I listen to the news.
Or “humanitarian crisis”
Or “climate change”

They will actually soon bore us all into nonchalance
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March 10, 2018 8:58pm
RF

Is anyone else uneasy about the cash the commie chick is spraying around the islands. Not the usual amounts but the numerous top ups.

The Island where her father is the high commissioner seems to be looked after and that really worries me.

Is she that stupid or just a thicko.
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March 10, 2018 9:23pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “Is she that stupid or just a thicko.”
  
  Both, actually.
  
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  March 10, 2018 9:55pm
Monique Watson

Still searching for the link re the anal perpetrator but nothing much has changed in the tiny township of Invercargill:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/102171098/man-attacked-punched-and-stomped-on-in-invercargill
Police are seeking witnesses to the attack and would like to speak with the occupants of a Ford Falcon
Good fucking luck with that. Everyone drives a Ford Falcon in the ‘Naki.
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