General Debate 6 February 2018

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nasska

Happy Maori Grievance Day.
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February 6, 2018 8:01am
- Inandout
  
  Cindy is simply falling over herself saying ‘protest is good’, obviously waiting for somebody to throw a used condom at her. No such luck Cindy, you represent Labour, or some such cobbling together.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:05am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    With her condition, would she recoginise a used condom?
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:06am
  - RF
    
    Yep… more than once she has virtually begged for someone to protest against her.
    
    Does she think this will make her look good in the eyes of the many people who have had a guts full of her Pollyanna routine.
    
    Feel sorry for the good folks on the West Coast the supposed stronghold of Labour.. Whilst they are cleaning up they can look at old photos of Micky Savage as that’s the closest they will get to a Labour MP.
    
    I guess the lure of Maori hangis at Waitangi is too strong.
    
    Finally ….heard that Waitangi Day should be renamed Jacinda Day.
    
    FFS.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:19am
- KiWombat
  
  It’s early on this day of celebration, and the rubbish bin in my local park is overflowing.
  
  The natives will gather later in the day to drink, eat and be merry. God bless them.
  
  Council need to do better planning when it comes to basic public services like emptying bins in parks. Tomorrow will be too late – there will be rubbish everywhere.
  
  All too often we hear criticism about messy natives (see below) but in this instance one iota of planning from our governing body would go a long way
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:06am
  - Southern Raider
    
    There is actually remote sensors for rubbish bins now so that council collectots optimise their route based on need to empty not following same map blindly regardless of where rubbish is collected
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:57am
    - KiWombat
      
      You must have a progressive council then – I have to put up with Auckland. They’ve spent all their money until 2021 and can’t afford even a new pencil sharpener until then !
      
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      February 6, 2018 4:37pm
    - KiWombat
      
      – – – and they have emptied the bin today – somebody must have pressed the right button !
      
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      February 6, 2018 4:38pm
  - Paulus
    
    Tauranga Council trucks emptying bins in public places now.
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:06am
- GoVege
  
  Hehe…and Happy First, I mean Second, Settlers Appeasement Day. 🙂
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:11am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Happy New Zealand Civilisation Day
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:06pm
- Morrissey
  
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  You’re implying that Māori have no grievance? If you are implying that, you are either particularly ignorant or particularly nasty.
  
  Have you considered making a run for leadership of the ACT Party?
  
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  February 6, 2018 11:54am
  - GoVege
    
    That hurt, Morrissey! !
    Of course plenty of Maori have legitimate grievances.
    There were many instances where rapacious little councils “borrowed” their land, supposedly for just a few years, then sold it off.
    And not 200 years ago either.
    Those are real rip-offs that have to be repaid.
    But a lot of these grievances going back to 1840 are very dodgy.
    In the 1830s tribes like Nga Puhi took advantage of access to Pakeha technology and went murdering and dispossessing many thousands of Maori of their lands.
    A book I read recently said that assessing ownership of lands as they were in 1840, is equivalent to setting the map of Europe as it was in 1940.
    In many cases we are compensating the WRONG people.
    But as per usual, it’s the squeaky door that gets the oil.
    Many Maori are quietly angry at other tribes who decimated their forebears and stole their land.
    
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    February 6, 2018 12:42pm
KiWombat

The achievements of Winston First

Tried googling this – came up with virtually nothing for a party that will celebrate it’s 25th birthday this year.

As a mark of respect, WeeWinnie should be permitted to enter the Pike River mine to mark the 25th anniversary of the foundation of his party.

Of course all on an “All care – no responsibility” basis.

Lets do this !
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February 6, 2018 8:01am
- igm
  
  Make sure he does not forget his cigarettes and lighter!
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:04am
  - KiWombat
    
    = = = and a hip flask of JD for sustenance !
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:08am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      AKA ‘breakfast’
      
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      February 6, 2018 8:44am
  - Paulus
    
    No, Winston’s emphysema has forced him to give up smoking.
    His lungs are well and truly shot.
    Saw my Father die from it after having smoked for most of his life.
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:43am
    - MH
      
      And now a Policy announcement From de Minster of Races
      
      Gwine to run all night!
      Gwine to run all day!
      I’ll bet my money on de bob-tail nag—
      Somebody bet on de bay.
      
      Old muley cow come on to de track—Doo-dah! doo-dah!
      De bob-tail fling her ober his back—Oh! doo-dah-day!
      Den fly along like a rail-road car—Doo-dah! doo-dah!
      Runnin’ a race wid a shootin’ star—Oh! doo-dah-day!
      
      Gwine to run all night!
      Gwine to run all day!
      I’ll bet my money on de bob-tail nag—
      Somebody bet on de bay.
      
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      February 6, 2018 10:25am
Paulus Gnome

Today is Bob Marleys birthday!

Celebrate this great musicians birthday by playing reggae loud enough for your neighbour’s to enjoy as well!

There was something else but I want to forget . . . . .
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February 6, 2018 8:02am
- dime
  
  It’s axls birthday too. Crank some appetite
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:02am
- Southern Raider
  
  Best Waitangi Day celebration I’ve ever been to was actually a selection of bands playing reggae in Western Springs to celebrate Bobs birthday.
  
  Everyone had a good time, lots of families and no aggro. Much better event for the 6th than that other divisive thing up north
  
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  February 6, 2018 11:16am
Digmen1

Its time Maori started apologisng to us for being so
backward in so many respects, and costing NZ a fortune in benefits and crime etc.
They have had every chance for the last 150 years.
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February 6, 2018 8:03am
- KiWombat
  
  How about an apology for eating the original inhabitants of this wonderful land !
  
  And perhaps another apology for the wanton destruction of native fauna – eaten to extinction.
  
  They must have been delighted to see Cook sailing over the horizon – “Food at last”
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:14am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The original delivery of a take out
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:28am
  - mikenmild
    
    Always a popular myth – ‘the original inhabitants’.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:00am
    - KiWombat
      
      Read the 1862 Moriori Petition to the Crown – it might throw some light on your “myth” for you
      
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      February 7, 2018 12:02am
  - Liberty
    
    Maori academics portray life before Cook as utopian. What a load of piffel
    Life would have been incredibly hard. In the larger tribes food would not
    have been abundant. Just think for a moment how many native pigeons
    needed to supply over a year. Sure slaves provided fresh meat.
    That would not have provided a long term solution. To the reality that at some stage they would have run out of food.
    If it wasn’t for the arrival of european technology
    Maori in the more populated areas would have faced a doubtful future.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:35am
    - sam green
      
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      Which Maori academics have you been reading?
      
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      February 6, 2018 9:52am
      - Jack5
        
        Sam, please tell us the Maori academics you think don’t conform to Liberty’s assertion.
        
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        February 6, 2018 10:09am
      - sam green
        
        I asked Liberty which Maori academics s/he has been reading. S/he could start with Te Rangi Hiroa who simply describes aspects of pre European Maori life. Or perhaps Te Rangikāheke – neither describe a utopian history. Pakeha Michael King’s biography of Te Puea is not a utopian view by any means. Ranginui Walker does not conform. Nor Wharehuia Milroy. Obviously Liberty and yourself have read others which analyse the social and cultural mores with more “utopian” views. Who have you been reading?
        
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        February 6, 2018 11:13am
      - Jack5
        
        Sam, I have read Sir Peter Buck (Te Rangi Hiroa) and King and many of the earlier historians. I’ve delved into other (apart from King) recent historians, but I am sceptical about most because of their overconfidence in the reliability of oral history.
        
        In my view, many recent historians’ judgment has been weakened by the influence from those anthropologists who argue that all cultures are of equal value (and that oral history records are as valid as written records).
        
        This implies Papuan tribes that ate enemies’ brains and contracted kuru had a culture equivalent to that of Ancient Greece or the Ming period and the other two golden ages of China.
        
        I see this influence from flaky anthropologists as resulting in down playing dark aspects of pre-colonial Maori society, with its slavery, cannibalism, continual tribal wars, and Stone Age technology.
        
        Sam, you at times are on the mark with your short posts, but I wonder if anyone-else thinks it’s condescending when you ask a person with an opposing view what that person has read about the subject.
        
        It carries the connotation that you have superior knowledge, in a way that you wouldn’t get from the comment: “What the fuck do you know about this?”
        
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        February 6, 2018 1:06pm
      - sam green
        
        I merely asked which Maori academics Liberty has been reading in order to make that assertion. “What the fuck do you know about this” may be the standard comment on here but that’s not the comment I made. S/he, at this point asserted something about Maori academics which has little basis if s/he hasn’t read any Maori academics that support his/ her assertion. And in the good old kiwiblog vernacular – go fuck yourself you self- righteous condescending prick – oh and happy Waitangi Day.
        
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        February 6, 2018 1:27pm
      - Jack5
        
        That’s better, Sam.
        
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        February 6, 2018 1:37pm
      - sam green
        
        Yes it is.
        
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        February 6, 2018 6:49pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Maori populations were limited by an energy shortage.
      While Asian, South American, African and European tribes obtained energy from plant carbohydrates (starches), Maori (like other hunter-gathers) would have depended on proteins and fats (birds, slaves and seafood) for their energy. The exceptions were kumara (in the limited warmer regions) and bracken fern (time-consuming and inefficient).
      If the Maori had the potato, their populations density could have been far higher.
      
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      February 6, 2018 10:44am
      - Johnboy
        
        And they’d have been as smart as the Oirish Odakyu old chap! 🙂
        
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        February 6, 2018 12:01pm
- tf78
  
  I wish some Maori would stop playing the victim card and embrace their European side and get on with living a normal life.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:25am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Yes ever noticed all the Maori with good families, stable income and who are generally good bastards don’t want anything to do with the grief industry.
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:28am
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Great to see Steven acknowledging the significance of the Treaty – this year in particular.
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February 6, 2018 8:04am
Chuck Bird

Did anyone else hear that racist Margaret Motu on ZB this morning calling for separate laws? I doubt if the majority of those who identify as Maori would not agree with her.
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February 6, 2018 8:05am
- Digmen1
  
  She is an evil woman, and we are paying her!
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:06am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Evil is a bit strong but I am outraged that we are paying her.
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:09am
  - tf78
    
    Don’t forget she is spreading the love through our university. What chance do we honkies have with women like her spouting their poison. By the way she is apparently of Scottish descent – what a bloody hypocrite.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:28am
    - GoVege
      
      Apparently she said that “a lack of understanding of history is part of the reason Maori are still so badly represented in some statistics….and teaching about the TOW would remedy this”.
      That’s NOT the reason Maori are doing so badly.
      They’re doing badly for the same reasons as ALL the other Polynesian cultures, because:
      1) their females (apart from a few exulted ones like MM) are treated like servants, punch bags, baby-making machines and generally 2nd class citizens.
      2) the males often feel NO obligation to stay with and support their own children, resulting in many troubled unfathered young males with non-existent role models (apart from the neighborhood gang leader.)
      3) many of the dads are immature idiots who go out boozing, gambling and carousing instead of working around the home with their children, or helping them study.
      4) it’s extremely rare for Maori and Polynesian leaders to state these facts because the males want to retain their power and privilege, and would retaliate.
      There are Maori and Polynesian men who are devoted fathers (and even reasonable husbands.)
      Because they consider their wives and children, they tend to have much smaller families than the chauvinists who take pride in how many kids they have, despite abandoning them.
      Hence the problem increases over time.
      
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      February 6, 2018 4:18pm
      - tf78
        
        A very lovely lady who was a Maori elder from Waitangi once told me “There are Maoris and there are Maoris” – it is very true as there is quite a class system in Maoridom and their roles have not changed over the years. Incidentally she took us to the Waitangi celebrations about forty years ago, still the same riff raff on the lower marae as there are today. She was such a humble woman who dressed down to accompany us onto the top marae where we sat up with the Governor General, we were honoured and privileged to have known her.
        
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        February 6, 2018 5:02pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  Awful vile poisoness bitch that needs to be heard.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:12am
- starboard
  
  Bet ya didnt know mutu is Northern Wahines aunty!
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:16am
  - CHFR1
    
    Just goes to show you can’t pick your family.
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:20am
  - waikatogirl
    
    The whole tribe is related.
    Can’t hold her rellies against her!
    Morning NW.
    Happy NZ day ?
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:48am
    - Northland Wahine
      
      Laughs! Morning WG, and morena Starboard you koretake Teke!
      
      Seriously dude, I’ve never hidden my whanau connections. And although I may not agree with her delivery, I applaud her hard work on behalf of our Iwi.
      
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      February 6, 2018 9:35am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Too much bro’
        
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        February 6, 2018 1:09pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  Chris Lynch is taking calls about her from 8:30.
  0800 801080
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:28am
- Chuck Bird
  
  Sadly, this stupid woman does not realize that she is doing more harm than good for that majority of Maori. Her views do not reflect that of the majority of Maori but make it more difficult for all Maori to rent or obtain employment.
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:06am
  - Northland Wahine
    
    Chuck, you can’t put that blame on her. Put the blame on the individuals who don’t pay their rent or are too damn lazy to work. She’s a hard working woman who has repeatedly mortgaged her own home to help with land court costs. Don’t believe all what you read. Yes some lawyers use land claims as gravy train. Not Margaret.
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:37am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      NW, I can put a lot of the blame on her and others like her. I do not doubt the sincerity of her beliefs but that does not mean she is helping Maori. In most cases the claims only help the brown elite.
      
      Successful Maori are not impressed with her for the reasons I have given. It gives white racist an excuse to be racist as we see here on Kiwiblog. It also gives Maori brought up in a bad environment to rationalize their anti-social behavior.
      
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      February 6, 2018 12:26pm
      - Northland Wahine
        
        I think you give her to much credit Chuck. There are plenty of successful Maori and Pakeha that are impressed with her, and the brown elite and no different from the white elite.
        
        But to suggest that she or anyone else for that matter, are responsible for those Maori who refuse to work or pay their rent, grants them magical powers that don’t exist. Of course you’ll get some drop kick claiming “Margaret Mutu said I’m entitled to this this and this”. The same drop kick will call her a f**king honky looking bitch, when she suggests they educate their children, feed them, encourage them to succeed. Whatever fits these drop kicks agenda, is what they will scream the loudest.
        
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        February 6, 2018 1:09pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        There are plenty of successful Maori and Pakeha that are impressed with her
        
        I bet most would be far left like Cindy an the current lot of Maori Ministers.
        
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        February 6, 2018 2:12pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        I do not think I am breaking a suppression order by saying the scumbag doctor who murdered the 16 year old girl was not a Maori. I am not sure but I think he may worship a pedophile prophet.
        
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        February 6, 2018 5:48pm
Digmen1

Today, is “definitely don’t watch the news day” for me.
I might see Jacinda grovelling and demeaning herself (even more)
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February 6, 2018 8:05am
- igm
  
  She represents the Labour model . . . unmarried, pregnant, grovelling, and leeching off taxpayers.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:13am
  - KiWombat
    
    – – and with her snout in the public purse too
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:15am
  - stephieboy
    
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    igm , and you possibly represent the Trump model , thrice divorced , several times groping etc Whilst the vast majority out there simply don’t care !
    
    LOL!
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:17am
    - GazzaW
      
      You’re making assumptions about igm stephieboy. igm is quoting fact. There’s a difference.
      
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      February 6, 2018 8:28am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      You are right, I don’t care.
      
      I am impressed by his record so far on unemployment, fiscal improvements and swamp draining, the tweets not so much
      
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      February 6, 2018 8:30am
    - oldpark
      
      Shariaboy/stephieboy.
      You represent your mate Mohammed who married a little girl, a nine year old child. Is that claim fact or fiction.
      
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      February 6, 2018 8:34am
      - VicParking
        
        Hay oldpark, watch out you will make Stephie’s goat jealous.
        
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        February 6, 2018 9:26am
  - Harkman
    
    “She represents the Labour model . . . unmarried, pregnant, grovelling, and leeching off taxpayers.”
    
    Watch out igm, I (amongst others) joked about this a couple weeks back and it was deleted.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:01am
  - Fletch
    
    They had her stuck behind the BBQ at the marai. I was going to say, doing real wimmin’s work, but the BBQ is a man’s domain…
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:04am
    - niggly
      
      Breaking News Headline: Jacinda’s skills put to good use at Waitangi Day!
      
      Negotiating? Nope!
      
      Diffusing tensions? Nope!
      
      Seeing off the Harawira’s? Nope!
      
      Ahah … Jacinda relived that skills once learnt working in a fish and chip shop finally comes in handy whilst serving sausages at a breakfast BBQ!
      
      Next appearance, MasterChef, once $1M NZ on Air funding is secured by “C.G. Fishing & Enterprises”! TVNZ and TV3 bid millions to obtain broadcasting rights!
      
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      February 6, 2018 11:44am
      - Gabby
        
        Saint Ponyboy would never demean himself at a plebeian barbecue would he nigglery.
        
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        February 6, 2018 12:44pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Take a day off knob
        
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        February 6, 2018 1:12pm
      - KiWombat
        
        What’s the difference between a fish and a piano?
        
        – You can’t tuna fish –
        
        Someone please explain that to Cindy or she will be trying to deep fry a piano !
        
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        February 6, 2018 4:55pm
    - igm
      
      Lucky the food was free, as I doubt if she is capable of giving correct change, after hearing of her fish and chip shop debacle.
      
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      February 6, 2018 1:32pm
  - Dave_1924
    
    Oh bollocks. Not my cuppa of tea in terms of politics. But that comment is off the mark – she is a duly elected electorate MP, so not a leech at all. Unmarried and pregnant is neither here nor there if she and her partner can support themselves.
    
    These sorts of stupid personalise attacks just paint non-lefties as idiots. Attack her politics not who she is.
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:51am
    - igm
      
      In fact, she was not duly elected, having attempted on two previous occasions to win a seat, but being rejected by voters. The only way she could win one was to take a seat that a monkey could win dressed in red, vacated by David Shearer. She politically, is in a similar situation to Miner Little.
      
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      February 6, 2018 3:27pm
      - RF
        
        Cindy was gifted her seat and later her role as PM..
        
        Nothing earned…. how embarrassing.
        
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        February 6, 2018 5:21pm
- Tricati
  
  You won’t see her down the West Coast offering support to those businesses and families compromised by the recent flooding – To many hard questions and probably another kids picnic to run
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:29am
  - KiWombat
    
    The locals in HariHari still talk about the day that Paula Bennett dropped in at their pub last year.
    
    Wonder whether Cinders knows where HariHari is?
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:41am
  - redeye
    
    And because the schools would be closed. There’d be no where safe for her to have her picture taken.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:08am
  - Liberty
    
    You can’t spend money on the people with real needs.
    After you have just wasted thousands opening a office
    That is only likely to be used for photo opportunities and making a cup of tea.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/west-coast/101024478/pike-river-recovery-agency-launching-in-greymouth
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:53am
Chuck Bird

Just saying

Scientific study finds ‘baby brain’ is real

A scientific study has proved what most women have always known – that pregnancy can upset your brain as well as your body.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11988562
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February 6, 2018 8:07am
- Viking2
  
  We can see that in our leader.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:23am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    She did not need to get pregnant to have that amount of brain fade, the rot set in about the time inhaling the chip vat vapour became a thing
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:34am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    We could see it well before knock up
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:37am
- Gabby
  
  Apparently strong drink can affect the brain also chuckles.
  
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  February 6, 2018 12:46pm
Happychappy

Has anyone noticed that 75% of Barry Sopers columns have been supporting his buddy Winston and the 25% have been doing Winstons hatchet job on Bill English so I am wondering who pays Barry MSM or the Germ from NZ First. Another arse licking column about his buddy Winston this morning.
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February 6, 2018 8:07am
stephieboy

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“This is the day the Lord has made let us rejoice and be glad in it ”
Psalm 118:24

Waitangi Day is ticking over smoothly and peacefully bringing the peoples of our nation together in cherished remembrance ,

“And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.”

Isiah 2: 4
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February 6, 2018 8:09am
- Huevon
  
  You’re talking to the Maoris, right?
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:24am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Thank you Huevon, for using not only the the definite article, but also the correct English plural here.
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:20pm
    - Dave Mann
      
      Hahaha… my phone’s keyboard gave us not one but TWO definite articles in my above comment! We have one to spare…. where could we use it…. (thinks)…. 😀
      
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      February 6, 2018 1:32pm
- Viking2
  
  Nah, only some of them.
  
  Based on past performance that will last until all the koha is collected.
  
  The arguments will resume once it starts to be dished out.
  
  The impoverished North is that way because they can’t agree on anything including their ancestors and their leadership.
  
  Lots of feels for today.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:26am
- kowtow
  
  A troll is like the dripping
  of a leaky roof in a rainstorm;
  restraining it is like restraining the wind
  or grasping oil with the hand.
  
  Proverbs 27 . 15-17
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:30am
- Gravelroad
  
  Is this some sort of KB record Stephie? 25 downticks by 8.30am. Legend.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:34am
  - sooty
    
    Only in his/her own mind.
    
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    February 6, 2018 12:18pm
- softail 1450
  
  streppieboy, things are always great at waitangi if you bow and scrape for three days to the top hierarchy at that place.
  no doubt the COL are all there (its a free weekend for their whole families on the taxpayers dime) kissing moody arse’s,bowing and scraping ,,,,,,uuuhhh its fucking sickening..
  
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  February 6, 2018 1:20pm
flipper

Lordy,
Did you see Peters on TV One re Obama?
He really spat the dummy.
What a jerk.
Complaining that Air New Zealand is to bring him here.
Said the Government owns 51% of ANZ and should have been consulted.
“That just won’t wash”, he said.
What a bloody jerk.
Back to his old self already and we are expected to give him some respect as Deputy Prime minister.
Words fail me.
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February 6, 2018 8:10am
- stephieboy
  
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  flipper ,organising a deluded protest delegation waving banners with “ forged “birth certificate and “ The Kenyan “? etc
  
  LOL!
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:13am
  - flipper
    
    The stupid child is on the loose. Quick. Call the straight jacket folks. He urgently needs help.
    But come to think of it, spending money on that dumb arse would attract the ire of the Auditor General.
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:24am
- stigie
  
  I think what Peters is pissed off about is Obama hooking up with John Key for a game of golf and taking all the limelight away from the dwarf.
  Key is so hated by Peters who said he would never have him in his government that he leads !~
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:23am
  - flipper
    
    YEP
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:25am
  - Gabby
    
    It’s a pricy round of golf stinky.
    
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    February 6, 2018 12:50pm
- KiWombat
  
  By his logic, WE should be consulted about whether to permit WeeWinnie to travel on Air New Zealand as well – as if
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:26am
- Viking2
  
  Must piss the fuck out of him.
  What with Key being the Chairman.
  Peters unable to golf and all that.
  What a shit head Peters really is.
  
  Her has no idea of the effect of tourism and what it takes to make it work.
  4 million this year. That’s one bloody good reason why our economy is going great.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:29am
  - lifesgood
    
    Was going great, Viking. ?
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:49am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Peters can always arrange to meet Key and Obama at the nineteenth hole…
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:51am
    - pdm
      
      Inv – I think Key would have better things to do than waste his time than meeting with Peters.
      
      Obama I am not so sure.
      
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      February 6, 2018 10:18am
- KevOB
  
  There is rumoured comment that Obama is looking to buy property here.
  
  No more USA refugees.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:53am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Unfortunately for Mr Obama, I believe he has Asian family heritage. This surely would preclude him from buying an existing house in New Zild given the Labour Party and NZF’s race-based policies in that direction.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:28am
    - Nutta
      
      But there is some suggestion of Islamic involvement in his family background. So he can come for free and we’ll give him a house. Refugee!
      
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      February 6, 2018 12:37pm
      - Gabby
        
        Pricky thinks you’re demented nutter.
        
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        February 6, 2018 12:51pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        There is only demented nutter here . . . .
        
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        February 6, 2018 1:15pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Irrational and emotional outbursts are signs of early onset.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:24am
- softail 1450
  
  nah ,who invited that failure of a president here ,as far as im concerned bathhouse barry can stay in Chicago….
  
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  February 6, 2018 1:24pm
Inandout

On this Maori Day have a thought for landlords trapped in the cultural wonderland that is NZ. I heard of one such LL who has Maori tenants, a father , son, female breeder and a small brood. The house is an absolute pig sty, filthy inside and out. LL would desperately like to get rid of these tenants but ‘they have nowhere to go’. His only option was to up the rent, which is being paid by WINZ, or more accurately us. Meantime the house deteriorates badly.
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February 6, 2018 8:13am
- starboard
  
  Why would you rent a property to a native? Rule 101..never rent to a native.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:18am
  - Inandout
    
    He (or perhaps his PM) has learnt a very expensive lesson. I agree about renting to losers, who almost always are native.
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:22am
    - GJM
      
      The common factor is WINZ. Never rent to bene’s. Granted a lot of them ar Maori
      
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      February 6, 2018 7:23pm
  - artemisia
    
    Even a cursory glance at names in the Tenancy Tribunal database supports that view, unfortunately.
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:30am
  - Viking2
    
    I have a number and several are cleaner and better than many pakeha. I have been in some bloody disgusting rentals occupied by white trash.
    
    It ain’t the colour that matters but the attitude, like everything.
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:32am
  - G152
    
    Hey be fair. There are many Maori who are okay.
    And a lot of pakeha who are not.
    Scumbags are scumbags regardless of race
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:47am
    - starboard
      
      Yes but unfortunately there are more scumbag maoris than actual NZers..a fact is a fact im sorry to say.
      
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      February 6, 2018 8:55am
      - GoVege
        
        Starboard: anyone raised in a family of 6, 8 or 10 plus children, with dad beating the cr*p out of them and their mum most nights, is probably destined for a life of crime, if only to escape.
        And all poverty-stricken cultures/countries have ONE thing in common: sexism.
        Where up to 50% of the population are effectively disabled by violence and abuse, there are going to be ongoing problems of depression, substance abuse, educational failure, you name it.
        All this b/s about whether Arden is “allowed” to speak on the marae infuriates me.
        When are violent bullies of males ever excluded from speaking on the marae. …for being bullying pri*ks?
        
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        February 6, 2018 2:09pm
    - GoVege
      
      That’s true G152.
      My auntie had a quite a few rentals and she said the best tenants she ever had were a Maori family.
      One Christmas we were parked outside Farmers and a Maori lady reversed into us.
      A few days later we received a cheque for the damage.
      Nice Maori are exceptionally nice.
      
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      February 6, 2018 1:55pm
- Viking2
  
  He does have more options including giving a 14 day notice to clean the house up.
  That not done then there are further remedies.
  Pity some don’t learn the Law under which they trade.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:30am
- artemisia
  
  That landlord needs to realise s/he is running a business and issue a termination notice pronto – 90 days unless earlier by order of the Tenancy Tribunal. “Nowhere to go’ is not the landlord’s problem, unless the LL makes it so. Which is rather dumb actually.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:32am
  - tf78
    
    You may give them notice but they can just dig their heels in and cost heaps in loss of rent and then repair, it’s a very difficult situation.
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:01am
    - artemisia
      
      Well landlords in circs like that need to weigh up the costs and benefits of tenants staying or going.
      
      The house in the original post above is said to be deteriorating badly. Like that is going to get better.
      
      The Tenancy Tribunal can order payment from the tenants, and there are remedies to recover the debt as Viking2 says. Might take a while but WINZ will cooperate with benefit deductions.
      
      A landlord in this situation could take into account the government intention to ringfence losses, meaning that they will no longer be able to offset rental property losses aganst other income.
      
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      February 6, 2018 10:32am
Longknives

Oh God! Is it too early for a drink?

I just heard Ardern is going to bury her placenta at Waitangi ground as a ‘symbol of unity’ or something…
This silly cow’s virtue signalling is getting out of control!
As like the KB crew were talking about yesterday- She seriously seems to think she is giving birth to the Messiah!
Jacinda- YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST PERSON IN HISTORY TO GET KNOCKED UP AND SPIT OUT A KID!
Get the fuck over yourself!!!!
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February 6, 2018 8:14am
- stephieboy
  
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  Longknives ,
  
  ”She seriously seems to think she is giving birth to the Messiah!”
  
  Really ?
  
  Who cares and just keep up your chronic sulking and whinging
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:21am
  - Inandout
    
    Says you who on a daily basis displays TDS, a classic display of ‘chronic sulking and whinging’.
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:25am
  - Harkman
    
    Giving stroppyboy the thumbs down tick is even more special on Maori Day.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:24am
- holysheet
  
  And wait for the outcry when some mangy kuri digs it up and eats it. Now that would be karma.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:05am
  - softail 1450
    
    H S, hone?
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:29pm
- tf78
  
  I thought when they ran out of food for breakfast, she and Clarkey were going to produce the “bread and fishes” to feed the thousands.
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:02am
  - GJM
    
    Fish and chips, surely?
    
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    February 6, 2018 7:26pm
- KKKKatee
  
  I am so over this bimbo of a PM turning the impending birth of her baby into a political stunt! Bury the placenta at Waitangi FFS!
  Student politics at play here.
  When is she going to grow up and start acting like a Prime Minister?
  Crikey, if we’re lucky, the entire nation will be invited to witness the birth….
  
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  February 6, 2018 11:46am
  - PuppysMother
    
    She is just awful – there must be a limit to just how much shit she can come up with in one day!! Honestly, what did this country do to deserve such a dire PM?
    
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    February 6, 2018 12:06pm
  - RF
    
    This pure fantasy island bull shit. I can see Cindy in her virginal (cough cough) white suit screaming out.. de plane …de plane .. boss.
    
    What a load of bull shit.
    
    Pity Walt Disney is dead as he would be chasing her for a film.
    
    I have mates in Aussie pissing themselves laughing about this Air head
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:13pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Good grief, do we really want to know about Cindy’s placenta? No doubt Women’s Weekly will secure exclusive rights to the burial and write something particularly gushing.
  
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  February 6, 2018 1:11pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Although that is true, there is also the potential of giving offence to Maori. if Jacinda doesn’t enshrine the whenua, there will be some who are offended, just like if she does not take name suggestions. It is bad enough when grandparents and friends have opinions let alone ones special voters.
  I do not think that either the placenta idea or Maori name ideas should have been mooted. Poor kid being a political football.
  
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  February 6, 2018 7:34pm
cmm

Tree deficit is hitting 30 million later this week.

Better start another conversation to talk about planting trees rather than, say, actually doing it.

I’m sure WonderWoman can add another task to her multi-tasking bow: PM, mother and tree planter all at the same time.

Women in Africa achieve it all (except the PM bit, but Cindy’s not really achieving that) https://viewfromgramarye.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/superstock_1890-18924.jpg
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February 6, 2018 8:14am
- Southern Raider
  
  I hear her placenta is magically going to spark the sprouting of 500M trees across NZ
  
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  February 6, 2018 3:14pm
Humble Capitalist

I gave a colleague a cheeky wink the other day to say good job. I wonder if I will get my own dossier in Julie Anne Gender-Bender’s filing cabinet?
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February 6, 2018 8:15am
- starboard
  
  Gota admit though..JAG has a great mouth..certainly made for a ‘teabag’?
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:20am
  - stigie
    
    The mind wanders a bit on that one starboard..?
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:28am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    Or a fleabag. Bunch of hypocritical parasites all of those greens
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:32am
  - Digmen1
    
    Better ask Clark Gayford about that.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:06am
- artemisia
  
  Don’t forget to lodge a complaint with HR if you get one yourself.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:35am
  - Paulus
    
    I would expect to find that HR are one of the biggest parts of the problem – they have been before and now will have more power.
    Years ago I took over a company with HR who knew they ran the Company and told me so.
    Abolished HR and delegated to the Managers – smooth.
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:50am
    - holysheet
      
      Way to go, Paulus. Show the bastards who’s the boss.
      
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      February 6, 2018 9:07am
- G152
  
  Firms will be laying off any female staff to protect their tradesmen from this latest attack on men by liebor
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:49am
- waikatogirl
  
  That pesky eye-tick you have looks a lot like a wink HC. ?
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:00am
- VicParking
  
  I’m surprised you still have a job
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:31am
Left Right and Centre

The new and ‘improved’ Seven Sharp . . .

How else could they start off the latest incarnation ?
It had to be – could *only* be . . .

25% of kiwi kids are in **poverty**.
Are they ? Are they really ?
How did you arrive at that number ?
Who cares, yeah ? Not important.

And don’t call an Eskimo sweet an Eskimo sweet.
Or nanny Barry will have to correct you.
There are no Eskimo sweets. Only ‘spacemen’.
Long live Pascall Eskimos I say.

They take the cake don’t they ?
I mean – they literally took the Extreme Cakes programme off to be replaced by more of the same halfwit half-baked bullshit.
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February 6, 2018 8:16am
- igm
  
  The show will not last 3 months.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:25am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Oh it’ll last. But the viewership tanking will be the most entertaining aspect of the whole libtard pantomime.
    
    It’s gonna be so ‘woke’,
    
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    February 6, 2018 2:31pm
- artemisia
  
  Lots of feelz about school lunches for all children. No mention of who will pay, how much it will cost the taxpayer, who will just-do-it.
  
  I remember Jamie Oliver and his healthy school lunch project – the footage of children tipping their uneaten fruit and veges into the rubbish bin.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:38am
  - igm
    
    Most of the bene brats would not eat a decently prepared lunch, being brought up on KFC and all the other non-labour intensive foods that their lazy parents prefer to give them.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:29am
- waikatogirl
  
  7Sad. Changed the channel and watched a rerun of Big Bang. At least that is a good laugh!
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:03am
- Digmen1
  
  I like Jeremy Wells
  But his voice seemed very weak last night,
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:08am
  - dubya
    
    He seemed bored out of his mind. The Unauthorized History of NZ was brilliant, Seven Sharp must seem like such an intellectual downgrade.
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:28am
  - niggly
    
    He didn’t seem to fire up did he?
    
    Which was a pity. Probably because “it’s Hillary’s show now” and he didn’t want to show up Ms Smarmy who wears the pants.
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:09am
- KKKKatee
  
  It was very boring…..
  Stuffed up there TVNZ!
  Won’t be watching it tonight or any other night for that matter.
  Got better things to do.
  Full of lefty’s.
  The’ll be positively orgasaming when they get the pregnant PM on the show having a wee chatfest about absolutely nothing…….
  
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  February 6, 2018 11:53am
oldpark

“Who would be a landlord”?. Property owner or Landlord in Christchurch signs up tenants to rent their Property. Part of the rules and conditions of the rental was no smoking inside Property.
Well believe it or not tenants ignored the condition,and caused a lot of cigarette burns and damage to the Property. They were evicted.
Landlord looked for recompense.She got some from Tenancy Tribunal and her insurance company to pay for two badly damaged carpets.
Out of the recompense ,was deducted the excess amount.
The landlord wanted the tenants to pay the excess and took her claim to the District Court.The District Court threw out her claim and said the damage was accidental.
The Landlord then took her claim to the High Court.She got a short shrift by the judge there a person called Gerard Nation.
“Reckless Damage by Tenants Not Intentional”as it qualified for Accidental Damage.Case thrown out.
To reiterate again and again “Who Would be a Landlord”.
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February 6, 2018 8:20am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  An excellent piece by National MP Christopher Penk from the cute kittens blog, well worth the read.
  
  https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/02/christopher-penk-dodgy-ministerial-behaviour/#more-361462
  
  ‘Labour has never let pesky things like the law and constitutional convention get in the way of a good headline.
  
  Later that same month the minister of broadcasting, Clare Curran tweeted what was in effect an astonishing allegation about the conduct of a police investigation. I won’t repeat the allegation (because I know how defamation law works) but suffice it to say she was implying that improper influence was exercised, on a named police officer, to make a particular operational decision. If Curran survives the 22 December episode without serious censure it will be due to an accident of timing – having taken place during the press gallery’s pre-Christmas leave period – more than anything.
  
  The media let Curran off the hook with her tweets. So has the Prime Minister.
  
  A final example serves to prove that no new year’s resolution can have been made by the cabinet regarding executive overreach. On 20 January it was reported by RNZ thatthe finance minister was looking to make an example of any landlord found to be illegally raising their rents to exploit students: “we are looking very closely at some of the examples that have been put to us today to see if they would breach [the Residential Tenancies] Act”.
  
  Whether or not Grant Robertson likes it, he doesn’t get to decide what’s illegal in any given case.That’s what the Tenancy Tribunal and/or the courts exist to do.And if a finding is made against a particular landlord by the judiciary – in accordance with the law that Robertson’s government can seek to amend at any time – then punishment is determined by the judiciary, not Robertson, in accordance with the law. For the minister then to add a name-and-shame consequence as he’s threatening (“calling out” landlords who don’t “do a good job”, as he describes it) would surely be double jeopardy, as well as executive interference.
  
  Robertson was being a bully, and he was naming and shaming landlords on his office window. He clearly forgot he was a minister as well.’
  
  Hat tip to Hugh for presentation format tip but I will post this only once
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:25am
  - artemisia
    
    Most Tenancy Tribunal decisions are public documents so no reason Mr Robertson, or anyone, can’t publish names and details. And decisions are usually very detailed.
    
    Since the vast majority of applications are from landlords for rent arrears and damage, publication might not be in the best interest of tenants.
    
    Mr Robertson is encouraging tenants unhappy about the quantum of their rent to go to the TT. Tenants have to provide evidence that the rent is substantially above market rent – most applications fail because the evidence is insufficient or is countered by the landlord’s evidence.
    
    My bet is that few will go down that path once they realise they have to do some work, pay a fee and turn up to a hearing. We shall see.
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:45am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Far from being original to the Cute Kittens Blog, Penk’s excellent piece has been copied and pasted from another blog, which gets a tiny credit (but no link) right at the foot of the page.
    
    Penk is right though,and questions need to be asked about Curran’s allegation of Police misconduct, which is totally outside what the Cabinet Manual prescribes.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:01am
  - pdm
    
    If that article is a true representation of Penk’s abilities he looks a real up and comer in the National Caucus.
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:24am
  - softail 1450
    
    P G, Penk is my local mp and thankfully he’s much more politically savvy than the last one,,,,
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:46pm
    - pdm
      
      Sofitail – your previous MP had the potential in 2008 to be the best Prime Minister in my lifetime. Sadly he squandered all of the goodwill on following Clark and being Labour lite. Disappointing
      
      Hopefully Penk won’t go down that route.
      
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      February 6, 2018 2:43pm
- Inandout
  
  Our panel of ‘progressive’ judges are the type Trump is slowly getting rid of in the US. We are stuck with Labour and Labour-lite for the foreseeable future. I take note of the wise one Bob Jones who escaped the domestic landlord trap decades ago, and concentrated on commercial; the latter is so much easier to control.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:32am
- waikatogirl
  
  Many years ago we rented a nice unit from some family friends. The previous tenant had been a heavy smoker. The flat had been redecorated and was pleasant to live in until the cold frosty mornings arrived…. We would wake to brown condensation from the nicotine damage hanging from the newly painted white ceiling. It never actually dropped but was definitely unsettling. ? We didn’t stay long.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:09am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    You can get rid of the nicotine but if is a lot of work. A mixture or Janola and ammonia before repainting is the way. I used to be a landlord but only had to do this when I bought a property.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:30am
  - Johnboy
    
    No matter how much you try to clean the tar out of the ceiling it will always bleed through if you use water based paints. It’s the ammonia in them that dissolves it. You must use an alkyd primer/umdercoat to seal it into the ceiling, after cleaning it, as first coat and then whatever number of water based coats you need too! 🙂
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:55pm
    - Viking2
      
      Use a good degreaser as the nicotine is oily then some concentrated Janola and then the under coat as Johnboy has said.
      The same applies to mouldy ceilings. Mould will come thru the water based stuff.
      
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      February 6, 2018 2:26pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        And to think that the new generation of kids will know none of this cleaning information, having been brought up in smoke-free environments.
        
        They may even think the yellowed grime is a decorative feature….
        
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        February 6, 2018 4:21pm
artemisia

So Wellington City Council is virtue signalling again, looking for more ways to spend ratepayer cash, by making Wellington the te reo capital of New Zealand. Or do I mean Aotearoa.

Now there is to be a conversation with a foregone conclusion. Because the conversation is to gather as many ideas as possible, none of which will be – ‘you are spending HOW MUCH on new signs?’ And bilingual signs are to be just the start of a wide ranging programme to transfer ratepayer cash to the many staff and consultants that will be needed.

The majority of voters in the Stuff poll disagree with the project, but I don’t suppose the council will take notice of that or any other conversations that don’t fit the narrative. Some might think that Deputy Mayor Day (who?) should be focusing on core council activities.

The council’s consultation document states that te reo is an integral part of the city and the policy was the council’s public statement of commitment to the language.

As the capital, the city was well placed as the natural home of te reo, which should be recognised, the document says.

The policy will include contributing to Māori well being and incorporating Māori perspectives in all policy work, as well as stimulating Māori economic, social and cultural innovation.

The council wanted to set an example for the rest of the city, Day said.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/101176713/wellington-city-council-consulting-with-community-to-create-te-reo-mori-policy
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February 6, 2018 8:24am
- VicParking
  
  Socialist councils love spending other peoples money.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:31am
- igm
  
  This is what we get when non-ratepayers vote in local body elections. If principal ratepayers only, had the vote, these deadbeat fiscally illiterate lunatics would never be elected. Not one of them has any commercial experience, all lived their lives out of taxpayers’/ratepayers’ pockets and have absolutely nothing to offer other than vile socialist agendas.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:36am
- Rich Prick
  
  I see a newbie to the Council is vowing to get rid of sexual assaults too. What wonderful powers they have. All I want is a Council water toby fixed, but 8 weeks on that seems to be too much to ask.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:33am
  - Gabby
    
    You reckon the toby fixers are all out rounding up rapists do you pricky?
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:03pm
- Jack5
  
  Will they introduce an apartheid council system, with unelected Maori representatives on the council along with elected councillors?
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:16am
  - artemisia
    
    They will certainly try, I would put money on it. Good chance voters who disagree will force a referendum (and win).
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:25am
sooty

What surprises are we to see today.
Are the missing pages coming to light.
Bury the placenta at waitangi.
Why not bury you head.
Waka jumping ain’t going to save you.
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February 6, 2018 8:30am
- Inandout
  
  The Maoris are laughing all the way to WINZ, having such an air head as Cindy in charge.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:33am
  - KevOB
    
    All of them throughout NZ. By sucking up to Nga Puhi she has effectively offended other tribes. They will seek redress as they cannot have their mana trampled on by Nga Puhi (who are themselves severely fractured.) $$$$ / rights
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:03am
  - freethinker
    
    Being a bit generous on our “National Day” shithead is more appropriate.
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:37am
- waikatogirl
  
  I can’t get the connection between a white pakeha with no connection to Northland and burying her placenta at Waitangi.
  Are all the women of Northland able to wander across and find a suitable plot at Waitangi to bury their placenta? Are even just the Maori women, members of the Ngapuhi tribe able to all bury their placenta at Waitangi?
  
  Truly bizarre.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:29am
  - sam green
    
    She has said nothing about that. A person mentioned that in his speech – this is not about Ardern making any such allusion. Don’t make it such.
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:05am
    - Jack5
      
      Sam, you say of Ardern and burying the placenta at Waitangi: “She has said nothing about that.”
      
      In fact, Ardern has called the placenta suggestion a “significant gesture”:
      
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/watch-jacinda-ardern-calls-offer-bury-placenta-waitangi-significant-gesture
      
      Labour MP Peeni Henare, as well as Waitangi Maori have suggested the placenta be buried there.
      
      https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/349724/bury-placenta-at-waitangi-labour-mp-suggests
      
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      February 6, 2018 10:22am
      - sam green
        
        The “suggestion” is the gesture.
        
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        February 6, 2018 10:53am
      - Gabby
        
        That’s the polite way of saying ‘are you fucking kidding me?’ jacksie.
        
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        February 6, 2018 1:05pm
      - Jack5
        
        Sam and ScGabby, here is Red Radio reporting what Jacinderella said about this (and it contrasts with Sam’s “she has said nothing about that”):
        
        Ms Ardern was asked what she thought of Labour MP Peeni Henare’s offer to bring her placenta back to Waitangi after the birth of her child.
        
        “That is something of course I would like to talk to my partner Clarke about, we haven’t had that opportunity yet.
        
        “The fact that the suggestion was made and that there were elders alongside me who really acknowledged that, it felt like a significant gesture, a really symbolic one and it meant a lot to me,” she said.
        
        C’mon Mr Green:
        
        Sam, Sam, pick oop tha’ musket.
        
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        February 6, 2018 1:18pm
      - sam green
        
        Oh dear Jack5 – you really aren’t very funny – I know you try – good for you.
        
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        February 6, 2018 7:06pm
      - Jack5
        
        Sam, buy a book of ripostes.
        
        Otherwise you’ll be stuck for ever as a rubber-headed target in Kiwiblog whack-a-mole.
        
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        February 6, 2018 8:50pm
      - sam green
        
        As above Jack5.
        
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        February 7, 2018 8:01am
    - Southern Raider
      
      A “person mentioned it”
      
      And that person wasn’t some random person in the crowd but a labour minister
      
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      February 6, 2018 3:28pm
      - sam green
        
        So? Stop making it something it’s not.
        
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        February 6, 2018 7:07pm
  - MH
    
    we now have a playcentre right and a playcentre left.
    maybe the birth will be live on the Maori Channel under the stars – with Harawira doing the commentary.
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:19am
    - holysheet
      
      “And here bros, is another MOFO born to continue the supression of the tungatarphenua”
      
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      February 6, 2018 11:27am
  - PuppysMother
    
    I think she sees it like this – she is atoning for all of our Pakeha sins and by burying her leftovers in the ground at Waitangi we can all live together in peace and there will be no more tears, children will all play together regardless of who they are, people will hold hands from the Cape to the Bluff and our blessed PM and her baby saviour will forever be praised on high!
    
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    February 6, 2018 12:14pm
  - GoVege
    
    Maori also apparently bury aborted fetuses.
    I know because my neighbour explained to me that she was burying her teenage daughter’s AF.
    What an awful thing to go through.
    When the heck are Maori going to get with the 21st century and use frigging contraception?
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:06pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Kinda bizzare when they were eating people just a few generations ago. But Maori don’t have a monopoly on dopey funeral practices.
      
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      February 6, 2018 4:48pm
flipper

The quality of NZEI/PPTA driven education – a system that squeezes the life out of quality teachers – has now been exposed in all its infamous “glory” !!!!
Silly Chippy Hopkins and his smarmy visage, together with the Drunken Dwarf and the Redmelons, have promoted this ridiculous situation. The idiot Hopkins seems to think that his union pals can chew up $billions on salaries, fail to a large extent, and then embark on an Oliver Twist quest– without regard for performance.
ONLY IN UNION CONTROLLED EDUCATION – NZ, AUS, UK, US, CANADA.
The arrogant SOBs.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/101176457/million-kiwis-lack-literacy-skills-prompting-call-for-review
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February 6, 2018 8:31am
- VicParking
  
  If the kids don’t learn if means the teachers never taught.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:40am
  - Tricati
    
    Agree, and having just been asked to come out of retirement to help a QS company as the latest staff out of Tech couldn’t add to save themselves, let alone do any Trig. They need a key on their I-phone for the answer or they are buggered.
    
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    February 6, 2018 3:41pm
- KevOB
  
  With average Maori IQ being in the lower 1/6 of the country how does it help to remove charter schools which succeeded in getting the best out of their pupils?
  
  Conventional schooling just assigns Maori to the destined not-to-achieve group. Easy peasy for the bulk of the overpaid child minders masquerading as teachers.
  The teachers perhaps need union protection from the rightfully concerned parents.
  
  Are our schools IQ defined too?
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:10am
- Harkman
  
  Yes but Labour needs an endless supply of stupid people to vote for them. Fixing the education system will make Labour extinct.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:28am
- Ross12
  
  So they have this but they are pushing hard to close Charter Schools which has proven to be one way to help address the issue –or it is one of the issues they are successfully addressing.
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:00am
Huevon

Labour’s missing million have been found!

A million Kiwis lack literacy skills, prompting call for review
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February 6, 2018 8:33am
- sooty
  
  What do Labour give the missing million voters each a bucket of KFC at the polling station as they leave.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:38am
- GoVege
  
  Illiteracy is worse among Maori and Pacific Islanders because their chauvinist men demand their women have too many kids.
  The age-old method of caring for huge families in Polynesian culture is to make the older kids do it.
  I.e. Keep them home from school to babysit.
  Result: Illiteracy.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:59am
VicParking

Grid Girls are no more. We now have Grid Kids. How long before the socialists call that promoting pedophilia. How long before the Feminists demand that 50% of the drivers are female. How long before……..soon
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February 6, 2018 8:36am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Having observed the frequency with which Danica Patrick wrecked her car in NASCAR (and of course it was never her fault), 50% female drivers in F1 might be just what the boring formula needs to spice it up a little 😀
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:55am
  - Longknives
    
    Go easy on Danica mate!
    
    http://www.fhm.com/posts/danica-patrick-instagram-hot-pictures-150439
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:20am
- holysheet
  
  Wait until the greens decide car racing is polluting Gaia and want it banned.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:14am
  - VicParking
    
    Already tried that. Car and oil companies said get FK’d but introduced formula E. Problem is if you count their production they are more polluting.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:35am
    - sooty
      
      Yer, that worked. Two cars, because the battery goes flat. They should have loudspeaker on the back that goes brm brmmm.
      
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      February 6, 2018 9:41am
- Nutta
  
  H&S prevents kids on grids here in NZ…
  
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  February 6, 2018 12:46pm
Paulus

Thinking of our record that we have the highest record of child poverty in the world or something like that according to my Princess and the UN etc.
We watched Sue Perkins (UK TV one of Bakeoff hosts) on a programme where she visited Kolkata (Calcutta). She spent most of her time there looking at the poor and it was very enlightening particularly as she she spent much time with the children.
We were show a huge area – kms along under the road rail bridge where many tens of thousands of people lived We met men, women and of course children by the hundreds at a time, and were astonished to find how happy they actually appeared to be, particularly the children.
The men worked physically for a very long day and so did the women many of whom had day jobs with the burgeoning middle classes.
The children from what we could understand all went to some sort of school run by charities of all shapes and sizes.
The parents tried to earn enough money to provide food for their families – there were a number of orphans whom the families also cared for.
The children were asked what was their motto – loudly together “to go to school”. What did they want to be when they grow up – Pilot, Teacher , Lawyer,Train Driver of course for the boys.
What it was is that all had positive intentions and knew that only by education they could try and achieve. They only has what they wore and shared a piece of concrete every night with a cardboard underblanket when it was not monsoon effected.
They had no ideas of mobiles, Sky or any TV, McD, KFC. and no Winz, or any welfare.
They did not sleep in cars because they did not have any.
And guess – there were no obesity among them.
We were amazed at the happiness that exuded from them despite their circumstances – they were positive in their belief.
Kolkata is the largest Muslim community in India and they and all other races have lived harmoniously for hundreds of year. The Muslims do not even chop off the heads of other Muslims.
So my comment is Cinderella – do something intelligent for a Communist/Socialist and go and visit Kolkata similarly and actually find out what Poverdy actually is.
Problem is that you do not have the brains to do such as recommended here.
Poor New Zealand and will only get worse – throwing money at it does not develop from poverty to a more productive live via education.
Negativity will not work as you believe.
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February 6, 2018 8:38am
- cmm
  
  Poverdee is not poverty.
  
  Poverdee is actually just entitlement and envy. Envy eats you up from the inside.
  
  Socialists have always exploited envy as a way to manipulate people – be they Communist socialists who promote envy between classes or National socialists (Nazis) who promote envy between races and nations.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:29am
  - sooty
    
    Ours just want to bred and hold their hand out!
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:44am
  - GoVege
    
    For some it is, cmm.
    In general though I reckon it is a lifetime of bad habits and failing to face it.
    Failure to save is #1.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:51am
  - Digmen1
    
    Most people in really poor countries work hard to get out of poverty.
    Here in NZ our “poor” wait for bigger hand outs!
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:20am
- Ross12
  
  I remember another program like that Paulus. I can’t remember the celebrity who did it –I’m not sure if it was the same massive slum but the same thing about the kids was highlighted. The other thing that struck me was despite their extremely poor living conditions and low incomes all the kids going to school were clean and dressed in very clean clothes.
  Pride from their parents and themselves.
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:07am
waikatogirl

Yesterday I asked the question How much have TOW claims cost the taxpayer in total. Nasska kindly furnished us with this:

Itemised schedule given but the total to the end of 2016 is stated as $3,075,000,000.

That was 18 months ago and the total has risen with another large settlement recently. When are we going to say enough is finally enough?!
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February 6, 2018 8:43am
- kowtow
  
  ‘When are we going to say enough is finally enough?!’
  
  But who to vote for ? Ngati Notional , the party that was going to bin the racist seats (yeah right) , is the worst in the give away stakes. Not to mention its attack on private property rights (tobacco) at the behest of the Racist Party .
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:01am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Full and final settlement came and went.
    It seems once the gravy train left the station there was no stopping it. The gravy train even does round trips to revisit and collect the next “full and final” settlement…
    
    A perpetual scam on the taxpayers.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:40am
    - kowtow
      
      ‘The $170 million settlement in 1997 was the tribe’s fifth.’
      
      https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/complaint-industry-still-rambles
      
      The irony is the “top up” they got in December , which was kept very quite , was bigger than that settlement at $190 million.
      
      Thanks National.
      
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      February 6, 2018 9:49am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Yep. When National come begging for more of my money this year they’re going to get a polite ‘get stuffed’, and when they ask why, I’ll say: ‘Finlayson’.
        
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        February 6, 2018 10:12am
      - kowtow
        
        Capt.
        
        Finny just following in the proud tradition of Doug Graham.
        
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        February 6, 2018 10:41am
- cmm
  
  “When are we going to say enough is finally enough?!”
  
  Don’t be silly. There will be top-ups forever.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:30am
  - GoVege
    
    It used to be called “Indian-giving”….
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:32am
- Piniwi
  
  But waikatogirl. The TOW is really starting to look like the only loan shark deal that was ever actually written down. Settlements are also starting to look like incrimental payments but are all far exceeded by the level wasted funding for the native gibberish.
  
  An inventory of programmes to support the Maori language in 2009, carried out by Te Puni Kokiri, found that a staggering $596 million was spent. This is an annual amount that has surely mushroomed since 2009 because so many new words have been created as well as a jingle name created for renaming “their” language. The current situation sees a deminishing number of users where it might be cheaper to put a $ price per word like a swear box.
  
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  February 6, 2018 3:08pm
VicParking

But isn’t the act of throwing money at something the only thing the COL will be good at. That and having discussions about throwing money.
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February 6, 2018 8:44am
slightlyrighty

https://youtu.be/6T7pUEZfgdI

Worth a watch, but at 2.5 hours you may want to take it in over staggered viewing. Jordan Peterson eviscerating tribal politics and the radical left as well as the alt right.

His musings on the PC nature of university campuses and left leaning workplaces such as Google is worth watching alone.
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February 6, 2018 8:48am
- waikatogirl
  
  Thanks for posting that sr.
  What an interesting individual. Currently reading his book “12 Rules for Life”
  
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  February 6, 2018 2:15pm
  - Viking2
    
    Just got mine. wife grabbed it before I could start.
    
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    February 6, 2018 2:33pm
Sofia

In discussing the Greens re the Wake-Jumping Bill, and the Greens seeming to say “How high?” to Winston’s bidding, WhaleOil’s Cameron Slater comments –

The Greens are also sitting on tenterhooks with a coming scandal that is erupting all over Twitter, hoping that their mates in the media will cover up their own very dirty politics.

What scandal, erupting all over Twitter, which I obviously do not have?
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February 6, 2018 8:51am
- lifesgood
  
  I’m pretty sure it will be to do with a suspected relationship between two Green Party members. Won’t say more than that…don’t want DPF in trouble.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:33am
  - dubya
    
    Would love to see any eventuating fight between the suspected male perp and the cuckold… Don’t be afraid to use your nails, boys!
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:44am
Huevon

The Waitangi Maoris are just being nice to Jacinda because they know she’s a soft touch.
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February 6, 2018 8:54am
- starboard
  
  “Waitin for da free fush and chups bro”
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:13am
- KevOB
  
  Winning Jacinda over enhances Nga Puhi mana relative to the other tribes.
  
  Oh dear Houston… we have created a conflict.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:21am
  - waikatogirl
    
    And the Ngapuhi politicians are on site greasing the wheels presenting Cindy as the tribes high priestess. Now wait for Ngapuhi’s exorbitant TOW claim…
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:58am
    - KevOB
      
      Rightly discermed.
      The tribe is so fractured though it may never be able to make a claim.
      
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      February 6, 2018 10:34am
Manolo

Sit tight:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/04/us-stocks-interest-rates-futures.html

The S&P 500 pulled back 2.1%, with financials and energy as the worst-performing sectors. The broad index had traded positive earlier on Monday as the tech sector briefly rose. The S&P 500 also traded down more than 5% from an all-time high set last month.

The Dow Jones industrial average traded ~~600~~ 700 points lower, reaching fresh session lows. The 30-stock index briefly traded flat earlier in the session. The Dow also broke below 25,000 as its losses over the past two sessions also topped 1,200.
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February 6, 2018 8:54am
- Gabby
  
  That can’t be right manuro, chump made a merka grade again.
  
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  February 6, 2018 1:18pm
Inandout

They have run out of kai at Cindy’s open Waitangi gig and the organisers have sent out for more. WE PAY.
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February 6, 2018 9:03am
- GoVege
  
  But plenty of (verbal) kae I’ll bet! 🙂
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:31am
- Huevon
  
  Bacon butties…..high in calories and cholesterol. Does our beloved PM want to kill these people? For the obese and sedentary members of Nga Puhi, this food is basically a modern day version of a blanket infected with smallpox.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:58am
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Now that we’ve got Waitangi Day and Cindy under our belt it’s back to some real business as Faux News’s Tucker Carlson has a melt down ,

“Watch: Tucker Gets So Heated After Dem Congressman Accuses Him of Working for Putin He Ends His Show”

Fox News host Tucker Carlson dove right into the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) memo on his Friday night show. Instead of bringing on only Republicans to talk about the issue, one of his guests was Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.).
During the segment, Swalwell accused Carlson of endangering national security. Then, the subject of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page came up.
Speaking of Page, Carlson asked Swalwell, “Do you believe it? Is he a foreign agent?”
Swalwell replied:

“He was under suspicion. It’s an ongoing investigation that’s not closed. That’s the problem Tucker, it’s still open.
And you want us to comment on it. It’s open. It’s still an open investigation. We don’t comment and review them in real time.”

“If you are going to impugn the man’s character, as you relentlessly have. Suggesting that he’s betraying his country, committing treason, I think it’s fair to ask you man-to-man, an honest question, a straightforward one with no innuendo: Do you think he’s betraying his country?” Carlson said in response.

Swalwell then lobbed an accusation at Carlson that he is making it harder for the FBI do its job: “I think you’re not allowing the FBI to answer that question with what you and others are doing to undermine their work…..’

https://ijr.com/the-declaration/2018/02/1060781-watch-tucker-gets-so-heated-after-dem-congressman-accuses-him-of-working-for-putin-he-ends-his-show/
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February 6, 2018 9:09am
- Inandout
  
  Every day you reaffirm that you are an idiot.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:36am
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout , well for now Faux News and Tucker Carlson has that distinction !
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:58am
- emmess
  
  Try watching the video
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/general_debate_6_february_2018.html#comments
  The congressman is completely mad, he basically says if your views happen to coincide with the Russians and Wikileaks, then you are a traitor.
  
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  February 6, 2018 11:58am
  - cha
    
    TBF, the treason threshold is rather low.
    
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    President Trump on Monday accused Democrats of “treasonous” behavior during his State of the Union address, escalating partisan tensions during a crucial stretch for Congress.
    
    Trump took aim at Democratic lawmakers who refused to applaud during his speech last week when he mentioned his achievements during his first year in office, a reaction he called “un-American.”
    
    “Can we call that treason? Why not?” the president said during a speech in Ohio. “They certainly didn’t seem to love our country very much.”
    
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/372388-trump-accuses-dems-of-treasonous-behavior
    
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    February 6, 2018 12:06pm
    - Gabby
      
      The yankers do like their hyperbole.
      
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      February 6, 2018 1:21pm
- Harkman
  
  Swalwell is a partisan liar.
  
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  February 6, 2018 2:13pm
  - stephieboy
    
    And his GOP counterparts are not ?
    
    LOL
    
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    February 6, 2018 4:31pm
howitis

Media snowflakes are melting in the heat.
So sad!
I saw a headline on Stuffed but did not read further.
It will be fact free.
Some blah blah about hottest day.
It’s like these snowflake kiddies in media believe the world only started with their entry into it.

I played golf at Millbrook in January about 15 years ago while on holiday. My hosts said I will be lucky to get a game but walked straight on.It was a bit warm so not many peope around. It was 32 deg. No-one went on about that. It was 30 deg at 7pm. A nice day then. Now the kiddies go into histrionics because there is nothing else in the vacant spots between the ears.

The warmest day on record in NZ is still Feb 1973 which the media seem to have discovered in the last week maybe via Wikipedia or something. It was possibly warmer when the Maoris arrived here during the Medieval warming period but they did not have thermometers (or metal, or written language, or cloth of any sort, or a reliable food source, or bow and arrow or any decent weapon but that could have been a problem in a resource poor environment of cannibals, and when it turned cold they did not have the means to get out as did the people who settled Greenland in the same period, but we are not here to discuss truth on this fine, but not too hot, day. No Sir.)

The stormiest day remains in 1968 with the highest ever winds recorded in NZ during the peak of the Wahine storm in Wellington. The storm system – cyclone Giselle – had already hammered Auckland and hit a cold front coming from the south. It was intense, short lived, and devastating.
It happened.

The media reported news then. The crap now is like we are being hit with the kiddies Facebook or Instagram feeds. Lightweight and irrelevant.
The western media dared to criticise Pravda in the past. Huh!
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February 6, 2018 9:09am
EAD_TWO

This is a great example of what I mean when I oppose double standards:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/29/opinion/white-supremacists-tax-exemptions.html

There are over 3,600 tax-exempt, organisations in the USA with assets totalling $36B that advocate for Jewish interests.

Yet, somehoe Jewish NY Times writers David Herzig & Samuel Brunson perform some mental gymnastics and actually argue pro-white organisations don’t deserve tax exemptions because being pro-white is “Supremicism” and “defacto racism”.

And these allegations of “Supremacy” are coming from a people who we aren’t allowed to criticise, are disproportionatly over represented in the MSM, Banking, & Politics + actually think they are “chosen”❗

Hypocrisy much?
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February 6, 2018 9:11am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO , while you at it could we finally get some feedback from you about the Jews in the President’s cabinet . They include at least three billionaires ,
  
  https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-the-jews-in-the-trump-administration/
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:53am
Harkman

So yesterday, I was rushing about like a headless chicken. I was running late for a funeral and somebody had One’s breakfast show on. I went to turn the silly thing off, and this David (Slack???) someone (he used to be on Radiolive regularly, probably still is, arguing with Rodney Hide I think). Anyhow the panel was talking about how popular Cindy is, this guy was gushing, literally drooling over her. And they compared her to Key, and this David said he thought Cindy was “more constructive.” Ha! This is comedy gold, she is an airhead, without a doubt the dumbest PM in the country’s history. Key, got inflation under control, saved the country from default, grew wealth, cycleways, ultra fast broadband and rebuilt Christchurch. And Cindy has done?
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February 6, 2018 9:18am
- KevOB
  
  Jacinda seems to be elevating Nga Puhi (very internally conficted) which will be seen as an insult to the mana of the other tribes.
  
  National wisely in the past acknowledged the principal tribal leaders and honoured all of them.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:30am
  - kowtow
    
    “National wisely in the past acknowledged the principal tribal leaders and honoured all of them”
    
    In a democracy it is the individual tax paying voter who should be honoured. Not racial or tribal groupings.
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:08am
    - KevOB
      
      In Polynesia a paramount chief has a very much higher status than most of us. How can anyone enlist their help without recognising their rank? If we do not recognise these people among us and their relativities we may cause costly offence through bad manners.
      
      If our Governor General visits, say, Australia, is she expected to use public transport?
      
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      February 6, 2018 10:25am
      - kowtow
        
        wtf?
        
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        February 6, 2018 10:37am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Got pregnant, something Key failed to achieve.
  
  I’ll get my hat . . . .
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:34am
  - Viking2
    
    It’s Ok .
    You can stay, and visit the psychiatrist with the rest of us. 😆
    
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    February 6, 2018 2:37pm
- waikatogirl
  
  David Slack is a left-sided lefty from way back.
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:02am
  - Harkman
    
    “left-sided lefty”
    
    An apt description.
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:02am
- Rodney Randall
  
  ” and rebuilt Christchurch”
  
  You haven’t seen our roads.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/100847641/christchurch-the-pothole-capital-of-new-zealand
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:36am
  - Harkman
    
    True (I live there) but the CCC carries much of the blame for that too. The cycle lanes are ridiculous.
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:59am
    - Rodney Randall
      
      Correct. The C.C.C. is a sick joke as is the Mayor and C.E. Karleen Edwards.
      
      The Mayor stated that roads won’t be fixed properly for 30 years.
      
      She should be marched out of the palace at Hereford Street
      
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      February 6, 2018 12:08pm
  - KiWombat
    
    Every time I visit Christchurch I seem to drive on a new road that hasn’t even made it into the current street directory.
    
    Makes it hard to plan a journey !
    
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    February 6, 2018 5:09pm
- stigie
  
  Just one lone downtick from Stiffy on the above comment. Correct..?
  
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  February 6, 2018 11:22am
- niggly
  
  David Slack is so left leaning that “I heard” that apparently he has to specially import cars with a left-hand side steering wheel and drives to his destination in a grid like pattern the long way by only making left-hand turns until he finally overshoots his destination and does a couple of quick leftie maneuvers to finally arrive!
  
  His nana, who only lives around the corner from him but on the right hand side of the intersection, is usually overheard by neighbours giving him a good telling off for taking 20 minutes to drop off a teabag when she runs out of them and the corner dairy has closed! 😉
  
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  February 6, 2018 11:28am
- freethinker
  
  And Cindy has done – sweet FA.
  
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  February 6, 2018 12:05pm
- Gabby
  
  Fucking cycleways.
  
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  February 6, 2018 1:23pm
RF

Hang on for a rough ride. Dow has just dropped 1000 points…..
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February 6, 2018 9:25am
- Digmen1
  
  Yes, the economy is doing so well, that the Fed may finally be able to raise its interest rates.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:35am
- fernglas
  
  “Dow plunges nearly 800 points, was down more than 1,500 points at one point”
  
  Just a mild hiccup? Should be just a correction from the recent prolonged rally, given that most developed economies are in a growth phase, but logic has never troubled the market before. Wait for the grizzles from Kiwisavers when they realise their money can go down as well as up.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:39am
- KevOB
  
  My expectations are for much more. The quicker the dam breaks the better. The central banks appear as reckless in their massive credit creation. This either has to continue or be reversed. Continuing means savers lose their rightful reward which is nonsense, Logic requires a correction. Expect prices to adjust until the yield on long term govt bonds equals the dividend yield on the S&P–similarly in NZ.
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:40am
- kowtow
  
  Oil’s down too . Waits for the instant drop in petrol prices at the pump……. just like the the instant rise when it goes in favour of the oil companies……..
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:54am
Digmen1

@Stephie Boy
To get down to real business.
Are you following the trial of your hero in Brussels?
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February 6, 2018 9:31am
Digmen1

I love the way Israel doubles down on any Palestinian attacks.
They not only catch the perpetator, but they bulldoze his house.
Then they build more settlements.

Another Palestinian attack today.
At this rate Israel will have settlements all over the west bank.
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February 6, 2018 9:34am
Viking2

Refuse to click on anything to do with today’s day at Waitangi.

Media will then stop running the shit.
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February 6, 2018 9:40am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  V2 , seriously how would a vociferous minority of 40 or so down tickers on KB change things ?
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:49am
  - holysheet
    
    Well lets think about that Ralph.
    As I understand it, the day after I suggested to Maggy that she contact the head god botherer at your church, (over your slander and and all the other crap) you suddenly attempt a weak form of apology.
    Don’t you come on here and say KBers don’t know how to get results.
    Remember the K-K-K members and the successful demise of miss not so bright? The surprise is your staying ability. I GUESS YOU ARE TOO STOOOOOOPID TO GET THE MESSAGE.
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:39am
- sooty
  
  Wanna bet!
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:50am
  - stephieboy
    
    sooty , well shall we say 50 plus or minus 5 or so ?
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:56am
- Inandout
  
  The sun is shining, some shops are open and it’s a holiday. What more could you ask?
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:53am
  - Digmen1
    
    The muslim religion to disappear?
    The COL to resign?
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:17am
    - GoVege
      
      Maori to say: thank you, that’s enough…. 🙂
      
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      February 6, 2018 10:26am
Richard

This day means one of 3 things to most NZer’s:

1. Booze, beach, BBQ
2. Time and a half and a day in lieu
3. Gardening.
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February 6, 2018 9:58am
Manolo

Staggering losses:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/05/stock-market-loses-more-than-1-trillion-in-value-in-february.html

The S&P 500 has lost more than $1 trillion in market value just three trading days into February.

With the S&P down about 4.6% for February as of Monday afternoon, the benchmark stock index had lost more than $1 trillion in market capitalization since the close on Wednesday, Jan. 31.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/asia-pacific-stocks-fall-to-kick-off-the-week-1517790854?mod=e2tw
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February 6, 2018 10:10am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Manolo , gasp, wheeze… ! But this the new golden gilded age of President Donald Trump !
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:20am
  - Manolo
    
    I can tell you stephieboy have never invested in the sharemarket and have no idea how it works.
    
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    February 6, 2018 10:27am
    - fernglas
      
      More fool you. In a nutshell, you buy shares through a managed fund and over 30 years they return as much as the housing market without having the hassle of tenants, maintenance and rates. Pay and walk away.
      
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      February 6, 2018 11:22am
    - KevOB
      
      It’s nothing to do with Trump but the FED’s massive credit creation. These excesses are worldwide and we will be caught up too.
      
      Standby Grant R. the worst nightmare of an amateur Finance Minster is coming.
      
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      February 6, 2018 11:34am
    - gump
      
      Given that only a week ago you were crowing that Trump had propelled the stockmarkets to record highs, I’d suggest that you don’t know how it works either:
      
      https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/01/general_debate_26_january_2018.html#comment-2124913
      
      If Trump is responsible for lifting the market to record highs then it stands to reason that he is also responsible for the largest crash in recent history!!
      
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      February 6, 2018 8:51pm
      - KevOB
        
        You won’t find anywhere that I have ever attributed any US stock market prices to President Trump.
        It’s a casino.
        
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        February 6, 2018 9:31pm
- Inandout
  
  One person’s loss is another’s gain. That is how markets work.
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:24am
  - KevOB
    
    Yes. Asset prices are built on liquidity too so market corrections will see interest rates rise. That means Govt costs up, mortgage repayments up, rents up, pay demands up.
    
    Not a good time for an amateur government.
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:37am
    - Viking2
      
      HMMM, well bond rates are currently the lowest they have ever been for NZ and there is talk of under 4.0% interest rates on mortgages.
      Should too as we have paid twice or more the world going rate for years.
      
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      February 6, 2018 2:43pm
Peter

I used to watch the news on Waitangi Day, but these days I avoid all news on this despicable charade.

Uptick if you do likewise, downtick if Waitangi Day coverage still interests you.
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February 6, 2018 10:11am
- itstricky
  
  I used to watch the news on Waitangi Day, but these days I avoid all news on this despicable charade.
  
  First PM in a few years; First female PM to speak; stuff all protests; goodwill and respect, supposedly.
  
  It used to be every year KB would be full of “I’m so sick of the protests” and every year, many would say “just ignore it”. Now, of all years, suddenly it’s “I just ignore it”
  
  Unfortunate, but convenient.
  
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  February 6, 2018 4:26pm
  - Peter
    
    It’s not a new thing. Now entrenched.
    
    Imagine that being told how bad we all are on our (supposed) national day has lost hearts and minds for good.
    
    How very unpredictable.
    
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    February 6, 2018 5:08pm
    - sam green
      
      Who has told you you are bad?
      
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      February 6, 2018 7:14pm
      - itstricky
        
        Certainly nobody has ever told me that. Seems to be the “woe is me; violins at dawn” back story.
        
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        February 7, 2018 8:31am
lifesgood

I’m off to the movies.
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February 6, 2018 10:16am
- Inandout
  
  A re-run of ‘Once Were Warriors’?
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:19am
Inandout

‘I left my placenta at Waitangi
High on a hill, it calls to me
To be where mokopuna climb to the Meeting House
The morning fog may chill the air, I don’t care’

Apologies Tony Bennett
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February 6, 2018 10:36am
kowtow

All very funny of course . Would they have spent a couple of dollars on black boot polish and done a similar stunt parody of Obumbler , or would that have been “racist /offensive”

‘They were hard to miss. And their stones were going to the right. Far right, some would say.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/other-sport/curlers-play-their-trump-card
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February 6, 2018 11:01am
kowtow

I see Ella Marija Lani Yellich O Connor is to do a tour of the US.

Could someone send her a letter to say she’s endorsing an unpopularly elected regime where it’s OK to shoot blacks , block terrorist migration and keep illegal immigrants from crossing it’s borders.
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February 6, 2018 11:05am
- Digmen1
  
  All the more reason she should do it!
  
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  February 6, 2018 11:18am
- Inandout
  
  Blacks kill 70% of their own..funny that.
  
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  February 6, 2018 11:39am
  - Gabby
    
    Well that doesn’t sound like much of a race war genocide downanout.
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:30pm
- emmess
  
  The population is too big so there is too much money to be made, I’m afraid. So the virtue signaling will have to take a back seat.
  
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  February 6, 2018 12:03pm
- Gabby
  
  You think someone won’t kobknob?
  
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  February 6, 2018 1:29pm
Captain Mainwaring

Just saw a headline on Stuff: “Smith hints at retirement”.
Unfortunately it’s Conrad, not Nick.
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February 6, 2018 11:31am
- Manolo
  
  Bill has told Nick never to retire: wants to make him Minister next time Labour lite wins political power. 🙂
  
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  February 6, 2018 1:15pm
  - Digmen1
    
    I hope not.
    Nick Smith really has become an embarrassment to National
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:36pm
Johnboy

Politically (in)correct in Australia

I saw a fortune teller the other day. She told me I would come into some money. Last night I rooted a Sheila called Penny – spooky or what?

I’m about to take part in the Great Bankstown Run. It’s not an official race, You just stand in the city centre & shout “Allah is a Fuckwit” & then off we go…..

A government survey has shown that 91% of illegal immigrants come to Australia so that they can get back to seeing their own doctor.

I got sacked from my job as a bingo caller. Apparently ” A meal for two with a hairy view” is not the way to call no 69

I’ve just fitted strobe lights in the bedroom. . . . . ..It makes the wife look like she’s moving during sex.

Two Thai girls asked me if I’d like to go bed with them, they said it would be just like winning the lottery! I agreed, and they were right. We all stripped off and to my horror, we had six matching balls!

A Muslim has died whilst training to be a skydiver. The BNP School of Diving said they had no idea why his snorkel and flippers did not open.

Such an unfair world:- When a man talks dirty to a woman its considered sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man its $10.50/min (charges may vary).

Just booked a table for Valentine’s Day for me and the wife.Bound to end in tears though; she’s crap at snooker..

Met a beautiful girl down at the park today. Sparks flew, she fell at my feet and we ended up having sex there and then. God, I love my new taser!

Got a new Jack Russell pup today, he’s mainly black and brown with just a small white area. I’ve called him Bankstown.
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February 6, 2018 11:57am
- Manolo
  
  Ewe are a legend, Johnboy!
  
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  February 6, 2018 12:55pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Big Norm’s the legend Manolo. I am merely his humble mouthpiece! 🙂
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:07pm
- RalphT
  
  They are all in incredibly bad taste; sadly I can’t give a green tick for each but only one for the lot
  
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  February 6, 2018 1:17pm
Captain Mainwaring

Looks like a big stock market correction is coming our way.
Be interesting to see how rubberface Robertson and his team of losers handle it.
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February 6, 2018 12:04pm
- Inandout
  
  “Ah-ha. The average voter wouldn’t recognise a deficit if he tripped over it in the dark.”
  Robert Muldoon
  
  I think Labour’s Granty falls into this category, although he does probably trip over the odd appendage in the dark.
  
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  February 6, 2018 12:37pm
  - KevOB
    
    Grant would do well to read Muldoon. The volume I read was an excellent primer on government finance, balance of payments, exchange rates and union demands for pay increases.
    
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    February 6, 2018 5:11pm
kowtow

‘This so-called Electoral Integrity Amendment bill, if it becomes law, will be a stain not only on the reputation of Winston Peters but also on this entire coalition government and our parliamentary democracy.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/waka-jumping-bill-denies-democracy
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February 6, 2018 12:07pm
- sooty
  
  Who will jump before the bill is voted?
  
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  February 6, 2018 12:43pm
MCos

It’s a lovely sunny day in Auckland.
I think I’ll take the dog for a walk in Cornwall Park; maybe have an ice cream.

Reading some of these bitter comments you’d think winter had come early this year.
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February 6, 2018 12:21pm
- Inandout
  
  Nothing so bitter as a Lefty with his balls caught in a vice.
  
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  February 6, 2018 12:39pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Indandout , there you go the model alt right grizzle guts in action yet again .
    
    ZZZZZZZZZZzzzz…
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:26pm
    - Inandout
      
      Thank God stephie has succumbed to the calming drugs.
      
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      February 6, 2018 2:14pm
      - Viking2
        
        Yep, they have got his mind for now.
        
        tomorrow will be different again.
        
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        February 6, 2018 2:49pm
- sam green
  
  Kiwiblog – the land of seethe.
  
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  February 6, 2018 1:05pm
  - Digmen1
    
    So whats it like on the Standard?
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:38pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    At times Sam but nothing will ever compare to the rabid mouth breathers at the Standard who proceeded to bag Roger Federer as a filthy 1%er because he has the temerity to be one of the greatest ever exponents of his profession. All that is wrong with the modern left on display right there. I’m sure if they were to ever educate themselves on the principles of the Pareto Distribution their heads would explode.
    
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    February 6, 2018 1:43pm
    - Harkman
      
      Yes, those 20 Grand Slams need to be redistributed evenly among all the participants. Anyone that doesn’t receive a Grad Slam, shall receive a participation certificate and work experience on Ceaușescu’s ‘Palace of the Parliament.’ How dare those Gnomes of Zurich hoard something that belongs to the people. ?
      
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      February 6, 2018 2:30pm
    - itstricky
      
      At times Sam but nothing will ever compare to the rabid mouth breathers at the Standard who proceeded to bag Roger Federer as a filthy 1%er because he has the temerity to be one of the greatest ever exponents of his profession. All that is wrong with the modern left on display right there
      
      There are plenty here who bag sports people whom don’t meet their political ideals, or whom they simply don’t like for some other random reason.
      
      I don’t think I would take them as displays of “everything that is wrong with this whole subgroup of people”. They’re just individuals with opinions.
      
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      February 6, 2018 4:15pm
    - sam green
      
      Much like big bruv and his hatred of all kiwi rugby.
      
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      February 6, 2018 7:18pm
tedbear

Of course everything went smoothly when the PM dribbles down her chin and says “I’ll do whatever they want” and “our job is service”

The gravy train for the elite race will ride the rails forever.
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February 6, 2018 12:52pm
waripori

I have been waiting patiently for the Trumpettes on here to graciously concede that the FBI did note in their FISA warrant application that the Steele Dossier was politically motivated research. Not much left of the Nunes memo to write home about.
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February 6, 2018 1:12pm
- thedavincimode
  
  I have been waiting patiently for the Trumpettes on here to graciously concede that the FBI did note in their FISA warrant application that the Steele Dossier was politically motivated ~~research~~ uncorroborated 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th hand hearsay paid for by one presidential candidate who was digging for dirt on another presidential candidate and was paying the wife of the Assistant Attorney General to help prepare it and who also funded an election campaign of the wife of the Deputy FBI Director
  
  That is what you were intending to say isn’t it?
  
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  February 6, 2018 2:19pm
  - waripori
    
    I had not realised they put all that in. I thought it was just enough to make Nunes claims baseless nonsense.
    
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    February 6, 2018 2:27pm
- All_on_Red
  
  The FBI did not disclose specifically that a Clinton PAC and the DNC paid for the ‘Dossier’
  Big difference between saying it COULD be politically motivated and failing to disclose that.
  
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  February 6, 2018 3:20pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Nor was there disclosure that the FBI hadn’t spoken to any of the original sources that were so many steps removed from Steele’s so-called sources.
    
    It goes a bit like this: I was down the pub and one of the boys said he’s spoken to a bloke who’d met some other guys down the pub who reckoned one of their mates had spoken to a bloke who met the ex boyfriend of a girl whose best friend had been told by another girl she used to go hooking with that Trumpy likes a shower ….
    
    All highly compelling stuff. Particularly when the target of the tap doesn’t have a chance to call bullshit on it.
    
    All good stuff for the pinkos who scream blue murder about democracy and transparency but really want a police state on their terms.
    
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    February 6, 2018 3:51pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Page , after over a year, hasn’t been charged yet either.
      I doubt he will. He’s a small player who had minimal involvement with Trump who has been used so they can ‘hop’ off him to surveill others.
      I see Mueller has asked the Court to postpone sentencing for General Flynn too.
      Looks like FBI agent Strozk might have changed his 302’s (his report on the meeting…)
      Flynn’s Lawyers are apparently filing for the charges to be dismissed.
      
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      February 6, 2018 4:57pm
  - simpleton1
    
    Another can of worms being prised open.
    
    Will be interesting to see what comes out of the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley demanding a reclassification of just what is classified by the FBI that seem to not needing classification, which will allow greater context of the documents of which Numes memo is based.
    Will the FBI comply by tomorrow’s deadline.?
    
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    February 6, 2018 4:47pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘Having reviewed hundreds and hundreds of Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant applications as the final stop between the FBI and the desks of Attorneys General William French Smith and Edwin Meese III, I read the Nunes memo as revealing one major fact that stands out above all other revelations: The FISA warrant for surveillance on Carter Page (and the three subsequent renewals of the warrant) omitted a material fact. While the FBI admitted that the information came from a politically motivated source, the bureau did not disclose that the source had been financed by Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. That is a damning omission.
    Upon publication of the Nunes memo, a retired federal judge emailed me: “There is not an officer of the court in the land who in the context of this particular application to the FISA court should not have identified the source of the information as having been the [Democratic National Committee] and the Clinton Campaign. If I had granted the application and then subsequently learned that the information was sourced to the DNC and the Campaign, I would have rescinded the authorization and issued a show-cause order to the Government to explain who and why this sourcing was not made known to the court. The fact (if it be that) that the Government told the court that it was a political source, but did not identify who, in this particular instance, is highly probative that the Government purposely misled the court.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-nunes-memo-vindicates-our-worst-fears-about-the-gop/2018/02/05/2eaac792-0aba-11e8-95a5-c396801049ef_story.html?utm_term=.132994a50367
    
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    February 6, 2018 4:51pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , the article and ts general tenor and thrust says no sos thing,
      
      Opinions
      
      “The Nunes memo vindicates our worst fears about the GOP”
      
      “…The point of the memo is to suggest that in October 2016, the FBI and Justice Department — under President Barack Obama — improperly obtained a secret warrant to conduct surveillance on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. We are supposed to believe the warrant was based on information in the “discredited” Christopher Steele dossier about Trump’s connections with Russia. We are also given to understand that pertinent information was improperly withheld from the judge: the fact that Steele’s firm was initially hired by Democrats seeking dirt on Trump. Nunes strongly implies, but doesn’t quite say, that without the dossier, which was misrepresented by prosecutors, there would be no Russia investigation.
      Ta-da! “This memo totally vindicates ‘Trump’ in probe,” the president desperately claimed in a tweet.
      
      Stop laughing, readers.
      
      The problem with Trump’s self-exoneration, of course, is that everything the memo tries to make us believe is false. The dossier was not the only information the court relied on to approve the warrant. Steele is a respected former British intelligence agent, and some of the dossier’s findings, though by no means all, appear to be accurate. The judge wasn’t told that the dossier was funded by the Democrats, merely a partisan “political entity,” but the materials provided by the FBI made it obvious it was an entity opposed to Trump. The memo itself acknowledges — quietly — that the whole probe began with George Papadopoulos, another campaign adviser, months before Page even came into the picture.
      
      Break this gently to Sean Hannity, who might blow his last remaining gasket: Even if the dossier had never been written, Trump and his campaign would still be under investigation.
      
      If you don’t believe me, take it from Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), whose partisan credentials are unimpeachable — he led the Benghazi inquisition — and who was dispatched by Nunes to review all the classified intelligence used to obtain the Page warrant.
      
      “There is a Russia investigation without a dossier,” he said Sunday. “The dossier has nothing to do with the meeting at Trump Tower. The dossier has nothing to do with an email sent by Cambridge Analytica. The dossier really has nothing to do with George Papadopoulos’s meeting in Great Britain. It also doesn’t have anything to do with obstruction of justice….”
      
      Please refrain from inaccurately sourcing your links and refrain from continuing to peddle Trump style porkies !
      
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      February 6, 2018 6:32pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        My apologies Stephie
        Wrong link
        Read it and weep
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-nunes-memo-revealed-a-damning-omission/2018/02/05/189f05e0-0a91-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html?utm_term=.fb7d2fb8323d
        
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        February 6, 2018 6:45pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Looking at your lengthy diatribe above, you seem to be quite confused the way you mix all sorts of different things up.
        Gowdys summation is correct.
        You seem to have forgotten that Mueller is investigating Russian interference, not necessarily Trump.
        Found any collusion between Trump and Russia yet?
        So funny.
        You truly are Kiwiblogs Dumbest Commentator
        
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        February 6, 2018 6:55pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Wed , your link is pay walled . If you got it so wrong the first time around how do we know for certain second time around ?
        
        The WP is renowned for stellar investigative reporting unlike Faux ( Fox ) and Briebart etc And can we include “ Faux” you ?
        
        LOL
        
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        February 6, 2018 7:46pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red Herring .con,
        
        Wipe away your theatrical tears .
        
        Short of paywalled article that you originally misleadingly linked we will just have to settle for this ,
        
        “’The Nunes memo is a dud”
        
        “Devin Nunes’s memo allegedly exposing anti-Trump bias at the FBI does nothing of the kind.
        
        https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/2/16965086/nunes-memo-dud-release”
        
        Sniffle , sniffle and shall we addd a snigger and a ties of lies ?
        
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        February 6, 2018 7:54pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Paywalled?
        Not for me.
        But then I don’t read Wapo a lot. And you’re probably too poor to pay for a subscription.
        I guess you have no rebuttal about what Hewitt or the Federal Judge says.
        You really don’t know much about what’s happening eh.
        Maybe you should stop reading Vox, Slate, Salon etc etc
        How is St Albans these days Ralph?
        Do they know about you yet?
        Blub blub blub
        
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        February 6, 2018 8:42pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red .con ,
        
        you just supply a workable link where this Hewitt or the Federal judge say blah, blah , blah …
        
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        February 6, 2018 9:51pm
- axeman
  
  Just the start of the revelations. Friday’s memo was first and there are five more to come. Next up how the State Dept was used to leak details designed to undermine Trump with another bullshit made up dossier
  
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  February 6, 2018 4:31pm
Johnboy

I was going to head to Waitangi today but when I got up, looked in the bathroom mirror, poked out my tongue and saw green and yellow I panicked.
I reached for the Colgate and fuckme it was empty!
That’s OK I thought. Murri never had toothpaste!
I reached for my razor, scratched it down my stubbly jaw and cut my face open…bloody wife….no spare blades! That’s OK I thought. Murri never had the benefit of Gillette!
I had a shower…admired my naked body in the mirror…didn’t like what I saw! That’s OK I thought Murri don’t mind ugly fat bastards dancing in minimal clothing!
After I’d dressed in my grass skirt I went to the grandkid’s cupboard for the Vivid and the little shits had left the top off after last time they used it!!!
Sorry Jacinda. A man just wouldn’t feel dressed at such a seriously important occasion without his Vivid…..I’ll just have to cancel! 🙂
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February 6, 2018 1:26pm
- stephieboy
  
  Johnny , deep stuff harmlessly bouncing around in your cranial bubble chamber .
  
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  February 6, 2018 1:28pm
  - Harkman
    
    Is Labour paying you time & a 1/2 + a day in lieu today?
    
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    February 6, 2018 2:33pm
  - Manolo
    
    Irony and sense of humour escape our Muslim mate.
    
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    February 6, 2018 3:11pm
Morrissey

‪Zombie Alert!

You thought this dyspeptic old dolt had disappeared from the face of the earth? Think again….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0GtlDCS5o

And in the following clip, a U.S. general manages to make a Sky News anchor seem intelligent and moral—in comparison to him, at least. Quite an achievement! ….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTPvWjFXU_c
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February 6, 2018 2:40pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Hey Mo,
  What do you think of Mahmoud Abbas new Private Jet?
  Pretty cool
  So it should be for $50,000,000!
  Pity about the poor people though huh.
  ‘While slamming the US decision to cut aid to the Palestinians, the PA has purchased a private jet for Abbas.
  
  The Palestinian Authority (PA) announced it has purchased a $50 million private jet for its leader, Mahmoud Abbas. The move comes as Palestinians are asking Europe and other countries for financial assistance in the wake of the US decision to slash funds to the PA.
  
  According to reports in the Palestinian media, the jet is due to arrive within a few weeks in Amman, Jordan.
  Explaining the purchase, Palestinian officials said that $30 million came from the Palestinian National Fund, and the rest from the PA’s annual budget.’
  
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  February 6, 2018 3:26pm
- notrotsky
  
  Talking of Zombie’s are you still running the Cottaging parties at Northcote point Moz ?
  
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  February 6, 2018 3:41pm
holysheet

Q: What’s the difference between ET and stoopidboy?
A: ET got the message and fucked off.
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February 6, 2018 2:49pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Q: What’s the difference between ET and Stephieboy?
  A: ET went home; Stephieboy went to St Lukes.
  
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  February 6, 2018 2:51pm
  - Inandout
    
    Those nubile Muslim buds would by now be married off to some 60 yr old imam, smelling of halal lamb fat.
    
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    February 6, 2018 3:15pm
Salacious Crumb

Looks like the predicted market correction is upon us – the Aussie stock market the latest in taking a hammering today. 3% down on top of the $30b lost on Monday.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11988945
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February 6, 2018 3:19pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Jacinda caused the crash
  
  Fact One: Jacinda the world-wide socialist pregnant-in-a-heroic-inspirational-fashion pin-up girl acts like a silly girl at Waitangi where her placenta is main topic of conversation
  Fact Two: At the very same time, world stock markets crash.
  
  Too much of a coincidence!
  
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  February 6, 2018 3:23pm
  - stephieboy
    
    DP , try and change some little thing about yourself such as growing up .
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:53pm
Manolo

Of no importance to our Muslim resident, an illiterate on financial matters:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-suffers-1500-point-collapse-as-computer-driven-selling-amplifies-rout-2018-02-05

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell nearly 1,600 points at its lows on Monday, after a period of selling accelerated sharply heading into the close of the session. Amplifying the slump was computer-programmed trade set to dump shares at certain levels.
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February 6, 2018 3:20pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo , now why should we trust your judgment with strategic share investments of one who is beholden to Conspiracy theories like “ “The Kenyan ““ and associated garbage and fools gold ?
  
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  February 6, 2018 9:56pm
  - Manolo
    
    First of all, I’m glad to read you acknowledge your Muslim faith.
    
    There is no need to trust me with anything, just invest wisely in the sharemarket and grow some savings. Your Mohammad will not provide!
    
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    February 7, 2018 7:06am
GazzaW

With major ‘corrections’ on the Dow and ASX there’s no way that the NZX will escape tomorrow after a day in international limbo due to the national holiday.

I would be anticipating a far better nights sleep tonight were English and Joyce in charge of the economy rather than Jacinda, Robbo, Winston and the collective financial brains of the Greens.

Hopefully we are just facing a corrective blip but if it is more serious then God help us as our reserves are now totally over-committed. The ‘rainy day’ that Robbo was relying on not to arrive may well be upon us and it may prove to be more akin to a tropical cyclone.
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February 6, 2018 3:35pm
- Jack5
  
  What reserves? Jacinderella’s credit card?
  
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  February 6, 2018 4:05pm
- KevOB
  
  ..the collective financial brains of the Greens.
  Lol.
  
  The reason why activists don’t belong in Parliament.
  
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  February 6, 2018 5:03pm
Manolo

Grant Robertson as Minister of Finance is a serious concern. His scant knowledge of the subject makes him totally out of his depth.

NZ has reasons to be worried.
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February 6, 2018 3:41pm
- GazzaW
  
  I wonder how many billions Chubby Chops has already ‘invested’ offshore in the Super Fund.
  
  Smart move eh Robbo. Maybe Stephen and Bill weren’t so stupid after all but you wouldn’t listen.
  
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  February 6, 2018 5:14pm
Viking2

The government has blocked the sale of land on the West Coast to New Zealand’s leading coal mining company.

The Conservation Minister Eugiene Sage and associate Finance Minister David Clark went against the Overseas Investment Office’s recommendation to allow Bathurst Coal to buy three separate parcels of land totalling 19 hectares on the Denniston Plateau.

Sullivan mine hasn’t operated for 20 years, but Bathurst wanted to buy the land to support its future plans for the Buller coal project.

Bathurst Resources chief executive Richard Tacon said it acquired the land when it bought Solid Energy’s assets, but because it sat in the middle of Department of Conservation land it required Overseas Investment Office approval.

http://www.newsie.co.nz/news/80314-government-blocks-land-sale-on-denniston-plateau.html
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February 6, 2018 3:57pm
- Jack5
  
  West Coasters did vote in a Labour electorate candidate, and the Labour coalition has put another nail in the coffin of West Coast coal mining.
  
  Can the Coast survive on growing marijuana and refuelling tour buses?
  
  Will Coasters be pissed off if Pike River mine re-entry proves impossible?
  
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  February 6, 2018 4:04pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Would Coasters have half a brain between the lot of them?
    
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    February 6, 2018 8:36pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Somewhat incomplete V2 – you’ve left out the punchline that has something to do with who actually wound up buying the land. Goodness me, nothing to see there …
  
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  February 6, 2018 4:09pm
  - simpleton1
    
    A good collect just a week or so a go and then a “great commercial transaction”.
    for a non tax paying trust in about ten years time. 🙂
    
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    February 6, 2018 4:23pm
    - Viking2
      
      Well when the weather changes they can lease it back to Bathurst. Quite a neat arrangement really. Who is going to complain with Ngatai in ownership?
      
      And yes I did omit that bit.
      
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      February 6, 2018 5:35pm
Andrei

Carnage in Cryptocurrency land.

People seem to find it hard to grasp that money doesn’t grow on trees (or that it can’t be “mined” in computers).
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February 6, 2018 4:12pm
- rangitoto
  
  Most money in the world only exists in computers.
  
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  February 6, 2018 4:29pm
  - Digmen1
    
    I wont be on KB for a while.
    I am going to open up my computer to see how much there is inside.
    
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    February 6, 2018 4:37pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Good hunting Digmen1.
      Thanks for the LOL. ?
      
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      February 6, 2018 4:56pm
    - tf78
      
      Love it!!!!!
      
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      February 6, 2018 5:11pm
    - Viking2
      
      Well I’m going for non invasive surgery. keyhole stuff via the UBS. Not sure how I will get a gold bars out through that but we will think of something.
      
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      February 6, 2018 5:38pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Are you a bank?
      
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      February 6, 2018 7:05pm
- stigie
  
  Money does grow on trees Andrei according to the Liarbour Party and sweet cheeks who is the current finance minister !~
  Steven Joyce’s 11.7 billion hole is looking rosier by the day !!
  
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  February 6, 2018 4:31pm
- GazzaW
  
  About as stupid a concept as investing in tulip bulbs.
  
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  February 6, 2018 5:16pm
- cmm
  
  Quite.
  
  Crypto currency has no underlying value. It’s just a bunch of ones and zeros. Heaps of those in every SD Card, webpage or whatever.
  
  While fiat currencies are also “made up”, they still represent some value: a small fraction of the value of a country. Even when inflated to hell, it is still worth something.
  
  Some people say the crypto currencies get value from the energy expended “mining” them. Again, that is bullshit. Expending energy does not generate value any more than digging a hole in some random place is gold mining.
  
  Crypto currencies only get value from speculation – people hope that they can buy some and then sell it later at a higher price.
  
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  February 6, 2018 6:45pm
Digmen1

Its not the dogs, but the way they are brought up – Yeah right!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11989058

A nine minute attack on the pit bulls owner!
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February 6, 2018 4:36pm
Digmen1

I think Stephieboy must be out and about doing his Dawah
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February 6, 2018 4:42pm
Michael

Here’s a judge who honestly believed he was entitled to be reimbursed for expenses that were never incurred. And the jury found him not guilty.
Believe it or not, by Ripley.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/101199152/judge-martin-beattie-notorious-for-expenses-fraud-case-dies-in-auckland
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February 6, 2018 5:06pm
- Johnboy
  
  I hope his appeal to God is rejected and cost’s are awarded to Satan! 🙂
  
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  February 6, 2018 5:20pm
nasska

…..”Nelson man Graham Thomas Rowell has been found guilty of child rape following a jury trial in Nelson.”…..

…..”Rowell would help families out, near where he lived, because of his Christian faith and wanted to share what he had with others”…..

Move along. Nothing to see here.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/101095605/nelson-man-found-guilty-of-child-rape
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February 6, 2018 5:44pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  Rowell … wanted to share what he had with others
  
  Such generosity – not everyone has a 9-inch cock to share with others!
  
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  February 6, 2018 6:20pm
  - nasska
    
    It’s all in the Good Book Nostra. Luke 6. 38:
    
    “Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
    
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    February 6, 2018 6:37pm
Johnboy

This is a major worry. The Chinese have taken Railgun technology to new levels and have built one big enough to fire those DL heaps of shit all the way to Kiwirail! 🙂
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11989102
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February 6, 2018 5:54pm
nasska

I learnt two things today:

1) Kitchen sex can be wild & exciting.

2) The staff at Mitre 10 are quite narrow minded.
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February 6, 2018 6:18pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  Kitchen sex … The staff at Mitre 10
  
  Didn’t you tell us that Stephieboy is a greeter at Bunnings Mt Roskill? 🙂
  
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  February 6, 2018 6:37pm
  - nasska
    
    I wouldn’t want to try it at Bunnings Nostra. You’d have stephieboy & the local Imam whacking each other off while they were viewing the action.
    
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    February 6, 2018 6:46pm
- holysheet
  
  Starbucks are not much better.
  
  An Irish woman of advanced age visited her physician to ask his help in reviving her husband’s libido.
  
  “What about trying Viagra? asks the doctor. “Not a chance,” she said. “He won’t even take an aspirin.” “Not a problem,” replied the doctor. “Give him an “Irish Viagra. It’s when you drop the Viagra tablet into his coffee. He won’t even taste it. Give it a try and call me in a week to let me know how things went.”
  
  It wasn’t a week later that she called the doctor, who directly inquired as to progress. The poor dear exclaimed, “Oh, faith, bejaysus and begorrah! It was terrible! Just terrible, doctor!”
  
  “Really? What happened?” asked the doctor.
  
  “Well, I did as you advised and slipped it into his coffee and the effect was almost immediate. He jumped straight up, with a twinkle in his eye, and with his pants a-bulging fiercely! With one swoop of his arm, he sent the cups and tablecloth flying, ripped me clothes to tatters and took me then and there, took me passionately on the tabletop! It was a nightmare, I tell you, an absolute nightmare!”
  
  “Why so terrible?” asked the doctor. “Do you mean the sex your husband provided wasn’t good?”
  
  “‘Twas the best sex I’ve had in 25 years! But as sure as I’m sitting here, I’ll never be able to show me face in Starbucks again!”
  
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  February 6, 2018 6:43pm
Morrissey

New Zealand….

https://thespinoff.scdn5.secure.raxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Webp.net-resizeimage-17-e1505797312329-850×510.jpg

https://stuff.liveblog.pro/stuff/20180205080248/8b300564aa5b04d047879a4ec40e9ff6862d99fe06145f11c72b3d229fe417a5.jpg

Old Zealand….

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/m/d/h/9/m/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620×349.1mpofj.png/1509997997321.jpg

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/media/14087812/don-brash-covered-in-mud-waitangi-getty.jpg?width=635&height=395&mode=crop
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February 6, 2018 6:21pm
- nasska
  
  After facing that at close quarters the poor coot in the green cap will have nightmares for the rest of his life. 🙂
  
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  February 6, 2018 6:28pm
- All_on_Red
  
  In that first photo it looks like Jacinda is going to take a bite out of that poor Maori fella!
  He looks most fearful.
  How the tables have turned.
  
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  February 6, 2018 6:30pm
- simpleton1
  
  When the placenta is buried,
  then considered to be a kuia,
  a moko will be designed,
  awaiting her to accept and then,
  receive on the chin.
  All at key times for media applause.
  
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  February 6, 2018 7:20pm
holysheet

Have you heard about McDonald’s new Cindy Value Meal?
Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.
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February 6, 2018 6:47pm
Andrei

According to One News tonight the Government is not spending enough on cutting men’s cocks off so they can pretend to be girls 🙁
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February 6, 2018 6:50pm
- nasska
  
  I sold the farm but I’m sure that I kept a spare set of elastrators & rings somewhere Andrei. If there’s a backlog some of these fruitcakes might want to go private.
  
  If you want to do the preps I’ll do the banding & we’ll go halves on the profits. 🙂
  
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  February 6, 2018 6:55pm
- GazzaW
  
  ‘Dr’ David Clark will fix that immediately Andrei.
  
  Bugger the bowel cancer screening. Let’s do it!
  
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  February 6, 2018 7:00pm
- waikatogirl
  
  $40,000 for a man to have the lot removed to change to a woman
  $180,000 for a woman to have add-ons to change to a bloke!
  Yep, they want it all on the taxpayer.
  
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  February 6, 2018 7:02pm
  - Longknives
    
    “$40,000 for a man to have the lot removed to change to a woman
    $180,000 for a woman to have add-ons to change to a bloke!
    Yep, they want it all on the taxpayer.”
    
    Don’t worry about how much difference that sort of money would make to Kids with Cancer etc
    It’s all about Virtue Signalling with Jacinda and her appalling excuse for a Government…
    
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    February 6, 2018 7:18pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Not a necessary op to jump the queue ahead of critical surgeries. Plenty to spend health $$$ on before “life affirming” surgery…
      
      Apparently since becoming govt the rainbow lot can’t get a meeting with an MP.
      
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      February 6, 2018 7:39pm
      - holysheet
        
        you mean they lied to that lot as well as the rest of us?
        
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        February 6, 2018 7:41pm
  - Johnboy
    
    How much is to go from an ordinary bloke to a ram? 🙂
    
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    February 6, 2018 7:21pm
    - holysheet
      
      Ask stooopidboy. He has a nanny goat in the back yard.
      
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      February 6, 2018 7:39pm
    - RF
      
      Johnboy.
      
      Good news.
      
      Cindy is having a hands on healing session tomorrow at 10am.
      
      It’s pile day and anal abscess on Thursday.
      
      Be in quick…..
      
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      February 6, 2018 9:56pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Waikatogirl:
    
    $180,000 for a woman to have add-ons to change to a bloke!
    
    $180,000 – that’s an expensive strap-on!
    
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    February 6, 2018 7:31pm
    - nasska
      
      Worse than that Nostra…..they don’t supply any speccies for the job. It might be $40,000 per inch.
      
      The devil’s in the detail! 🙂
      
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      February 6, 2018 7:39pm
    - holysheet
      
      One of Helens rejects?
      
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      February 6, 2018 7:40pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  It is insane, but it’s the way things are going…..for the time being.
  
  The lefties McCarthyism is yet to meet its ignominious end, but meet its ignominious end it surely will. It’s just a question of whether it’s at the hands of the Islamic hordes being imported en masse or at the hands of Patriots who make a stand for civilisation itself.
  
  In actual fact, I would have thought this issue particularly would have been the straw that broke the camel’s back but the sad fact is, politically, no political party or group is challenging this idiocy or (((whoever))) these people are who are promoting such nonsense.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:24pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    I wonder why the 4 downticks?
    
    Is it because people don’t like the vivid picture of what I’ve painted?
    
    All this degenerate shit that is being pushed is about degrading white Europeans and European culture in the eyes of Muslims, so that we earn their contempt.
    
    They acknowledge that we are smarter, better organised and morally more disciplined – a cursory glance at our respective countries demonstrates as much…but when they see we are degenerates, they will have no compunction about slaughtering us and colonising our lands.
    
    That is unless of course we get a leader like Hitler who was able to throw off all the degenerate Marxism that was foisted upon Germany during the Weimar period.
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:10pm
    - cha
      
      AfD member ~~Arthur~~ Ahmed Wagner decided to do something about the degeneracy.
      
      Arthur Wagner — who now goes by the first name Ahmed—– has been thrust the spotlight since German media reported last week that he had secretly converted to Islam last year.
      
      […]
      
      The revelation mystified members of his Alternative for Germany (Alternative für Deutschland, or AfD) party, which is staunchly opposed to Islam and holds that the religion has no place in Germany.
      Explaining his decision to Germany’s Bild newspaper, Wagner, 48, said that he had been motivated by the Protestant church’s tolerance of same-sex marriage, which he saw as evidence of its “moral decline.”
      
      https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/gy8x4m/german-far-right-politician-converts-to-islam
      
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      February 6, 2018 9:26pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        He’s been driven mad in an insane world.
        
        The day of the rope can’t come soon enough.
        
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        February 6, 2018 9:39pm
      - stephieboy
        
        EAD TWO , the day of “rope ” appears to suggest a lynching .?
        
        Expand on that please .
        
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        February 6, 2018 9:45pm
      - simpleton1
        
        As one who knows how to keep a people virtuous, and safe from same-sex marriage.
        
        Ayatollah Khomeini : “Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors!”
        
        So also women in Iran need to keep their hijabs on, and for others no driving and keep that burka on.
        Christian churches may have sold out, but it still beholds for Christians to be reasonable and have some tolerance.
        However to be ok with the regime of sharia law, whether atheist, buddhist, christian, etc. is a malevolent step to destruction, because islam can seek a hold and through terror over people.
        
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        February 7, 2018 12:31am
    - simpleton1
      
      An Islamised Germany is what Hitler wished for, not that Hitler thought that well of Arab peoples either.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#Hitler_on_Islam Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic conquest of Gaul and was now convinced that “the world would be Mohammedan today” if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours, while also suggesting to Speer that “ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.”[ Albert Speer (1 April 1997). Inside the Third Reich: memoirs. Simon and Schuster. pp. 96–. ISBN 978-0-684-82949-4. Retrieved 2010-09-15.] Hitler said that the Germans would have become heirs to “a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and in subjugating all nations to that faith. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the German temperament.” [“Speer, 1970”, pp. 142–143]
      
      It has been the malovency of Hitler, to bring destruction to Germany, to waste time and effort, of his armies and people in killing Jews, Gypsies, etc. when they could have been more effectively worked in labour camps for the war effort.
      So the destruction of Germany through malevolent mayhem, as Hitler blamed the German people, fault for not giving and doing more.
      It seems that the German people having been so pulverized, with the cross fertilization of cultural suppression of multi culti diversity political correctness are now unwittingly being readied to follow Hitler’s course and culture of becoming the leading light of islam. Islam always makes the populations it takes over an offer they can not refuse, become muslim.
      
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      February 6, 2018 10:36pm
Jack5

Simon Wilson is in full gush in the Hooerald as he waxes lyrical about Jacinderella’s expedition to Waitangi.

Who is Simon Wilson? This from the Spin-off site might help:

Simon Wilson is the former editor of The Spinoff Auckland, Metro and Cuisine. He joined the NZ Herald as a senior writer in January 2017.

A sample of Wilson’s report in the Hooerald: ” …she wasn’t talking just to Maori. We’re all in this village, we’re all raising the child.”

If only Jacinderella were a Catholic: they’d have her on the road to becoming a saint.
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February 6, 2018 8:38pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Jack5 is referring to this article:
  
  Perhaps an even better measure of her Waitangi triumph came when she got out and mixed with the crowds. … The bus driver who told his mates he’d said good morning to her as she walked past and she dazzled him with the enthusiasm of her good morning back. He was going to retire now, he was so dazzled.
  
  Sounds a bit far-fetched to me.
  
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  February 6, 2018 8:56pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    and she dazzled him with the enthusiasm of her good morning back
    
    The bar being set to become Prime Minister is set lower and lower.
    
    And to think they described Key as “Mr Smile & Wave”
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:06pm
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO , the bar that should be set like this ?
      
      “That is unless of course we get a leader like Hitler who was able to throw off all the degenerate Marxism that was foisted upon Germany during the Weimar period.”
      
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      February 6, 2018 9:48pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”Sounds a bit far-fetched to me”…..
    
    Cynic! You wait until She heals the sick & takes Her morning walk on Wellington Harbour.
    
    Then you’ll be sorry for doubting Her powers. 🙂
    
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    February 6, 2018 9:06pm
- Digmen1
  
  I’ve seen 3 articles by Simon Wilson.
  Just the headlines wanted to make me puke!
  
  Senior writer!
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:05pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Did he mention her bribing 800 bros with bacon butties?
  
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  February 7, 2018 7:50am
Viking2

Latest moving picture of Bill English with Winston on his arm
https://www.facebook.com/RtHonBillEnglish/photos/a.10154612275468982.1073741828.78723428981/10156256170313982/?type=3&theater

If you look really hard you might see Winston move.
Winston will probably be extinct before Bills friend.
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February 6, 2018 8:59pm
Doubledimp

Excrement smeared on cars, public fighting, drug dealing. these are the people who are being given social housing these days. Must be labour voters.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/101176188/violence-burglaries-public-excrement-from-new-housing-nz-tenants-neighbours-say
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February 6, 2018 9:01pm
- Digmen1
  
  When all the ferals are living in nice warm houses like those, the repair bill will become so huge that even Grant Robertson will wake up and tell them its enough and its got to stop.
  
  The best idea would be to give them a plot of land to use and then make them do what they do in the Philipines or Bangladesh or Africa. Build their own house.
  
  A better idea would be to sterilize everyone over 16 living in a house that they mistreat.
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:10pm
  - simpleton1
    
    There are a many areas of tribal lands, that can be built on. Might is right, so sometimes may have to be relinquished, but occupation is always easy if no one is there. Maori custom is if one is using it then it is yours.
    
    A specialty of buildings can be found in Northland. Then it is up to them to make it water tight, non mouldy and warm. No land lord to blame.
    Perhaps they will prioritize their skills, energy and funds to do a decent job.
    
    The local, regional, councils government ‘ngo’ etc. should stay away with their resource, management consents, water rights and takes, sewerage overflows, plumbing and building consents etc.
    
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    February 6, 2018 11:22pm
- Inandout
  
  How can we stop this type of news being publicised. Maybe hate crime laws like in Europe will keep these things hidden.
  
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  February 6, 2018 10:59pm
Digmen1

Yeah!
I have nearly made it till midnight and have not watched any NZ main stream media in case I saw an article on Waitangi day.
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February 6, 2018 10:12pm
RF

Maybe it’s an omen.

Cindy picked a horse in the Labour Govt Melbourne Cup sweepstake today.

The horse was Cliffsomoher.

It did not finish as it was put down with a broken shoulder.

An unlucky horse !!!!
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