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AgentBallSack

MEMO RELEASED!
As expected it’s damning for the FBI, the DOJ and some very crooked people in the DNC, most likely up to and including Obama himself.

FISA warrants gained to spy on President Elect Trump based on Steele Dossier who was paid $160,000 USD by the DNC to produce the false information in the dossier.

Steele’s words about Trump to Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, a senior DOJ official – he was “desperate that Donald Trump not get elected, and he was passionate about him not being President”. This clear evidence of bias was recorded by Ohr at the time but not included in any of the subsequent Page FISA applications.

During this same period, Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research, paid for by DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS. The Ohrs relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the FISC. Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr later provided the FBI with all his wifes research paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign while concealing their relationship with Fusion GPS and Steele.

While the FISA application relied on Steeles “past credible reporting on other matters”, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations.

Furthermore Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that NO surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.
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February 3, 2018 8:00am
- AgentBallSack
  
  Furthermore – The FBI and DOJ were all complicit in hiding the fact that the DNC and the opposition campaign funded a document which was then use to spy on the Republican candidate.
  What’s more is that they never even verified it, and used Yahoo News’ article about it to give it credibility.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:05am
  - gump
    
    Senior Republicans are distancing themselves from Trump and his attempt to undermine the FBI.
    
    Here is the official statement from Sen. John McCain:
    
    “The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests – no party’s, no president’s, only Putin’s. The American people deserve to know all of the facts surrounding Russia’s ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation must proceed unimpeded. Our nation’s elected officials, including the president, must stop looking at this investigation through the warped lens of politics and manufacturing partisan sideshows. If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin’s job for him.”
    
    https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=12E0BD0A-B549-43ED-B42E-594EDBE182C1
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:34am
    - Ed Snack
      
      McCain is senile. The undermining of the rule of law was done in Washington by the FBI and DOJ by taking partisan political opposition research and using that by concealing its origin to spy on an opposition candidate.
      
      If you think this is acceptable behaviour, I presume you would not complain if Trump and the GOP did the same in 2020 ?
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:43am
      - gump
        
        The Nunes memo confirms that the American intelligence community began their surveillence of Carter Page in 2013 after discovering that he was acting under the control of Russian handlers. This means their investigation started several years before Trump announced his candidacy in June 2015.
        
        It is reasonable and appropriate for the Amerian intelligence community to investigate the activities of a Russian controlled agent, so Carter Page’s communications with other American citizens therefore became part of their investigation.
        
        McCain sees the situation as it is – as do other senior Republicans. It won’t end well for Trump.
        
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        February 3, 2018 11:19am
      - Ross12
        
        gump
        Where in the memo does this does confirmation appear ?
        “The Nunes memo confirms that the American intelligence community began their surveillence of Carter Page in 2013 after discovering that he was acting under the control of Russian handlers. This means their investigation started several years before Trump announced his candidacy in June 2015.”
        I think you are copying BS stuff without even reading the memo.
        
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        February 3, 2018 11:49am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Gump, nowhere in the memo is 2013 mentions, and saying that Carter Page was “under th control of Russian handlers” is pure bullshit.
        
        The memo makes it clear, the first FISA request that was granted was in October 2016 and was based on the Steele Dossier. No mention is made but several earlier reports have said that an application was made earlier in the year (June or so) with the FISA Court to conduct surveillance of Page but it was turned down.
        
        What’s more, the memo claims that the FBI at the time had not verified anything significant in the dossier, and that they quoted a “separate” report in Yahoo news as correlating evidence without stating that the source for Yahoo was Steele and that they knew this.
        
        The FBI and DOJ knew the source of the dossier and did not reveal that to the court. They knew it was paid research by the Clinton campaign and did not reveal that, a significant material omission that amounts to perjury and perversion of justice.
        
        You’re right that this won’t end well, but it’s not Trump that is in the gun, it is Comey, Strzok, Ohr, McCabe, Yates, and none other than Mueller manager Rosenstein. In order to discourage the US security services from attempting to interfere in future elections I am of the opinion that these people should be prosecuted, imprisoned, fined, and denied all pension rights – pour encourageur les autres as they say.
        
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        February 3, 2018 4:20pm
    - redeye
      
      Tweet of the day for me;-
      
      70 million democrats just shit a brick after reading the “MEMO”. We now have the material to “BUILD THE WALL”.
      
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      February 3, 2018 11:01am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Where’s GG? You’d think she’d be all over this like white on rice – FBI being the bad guys and hating spying and all.
      
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      February 3, 2018 2:01pm
    - cha
      
      the American intelligence community began their surveillence of Carter Page in 2013
      
      Page outed himself as the American involved in the FBI inquiry into Russia recruiter Evgeny Buryakov.
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/26/us-charges-alleged-russian-spies-new-york
      
      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-campaign-associate-carter-page-revealed-target-russian-spies-n742356
      
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      February 3, 2018 2:46pm
- Brian Marshall
  
  I’m pissing myself laughing for real AgentB. You must have had that all typed up ready for the GD.
  
  On a serious note, this scandal is bigger than watergate. Also Obama will have two options:
  1: he didn’t know about it – despite being briefed.
  2: he knew about it and still denied in public spying on Donald Trump campaign.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:07am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    I typed up the majority on yesterdays GD then got it ready to publish. I am pretty sure DPF won’t cover it and it’s too bloody important not to discuss. If the FBI and DOJ can to this to someone who is running for office against the Clintons and DNC, what else are they capable of?
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:10am
    - waikatogirl
      
      All part of the political swamp.?
      
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      February 3, 2018 8:13am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Backing our host
      
      Well ABS, I’m going to disagree with you about Mr Farrar covering this. The fundamental truth about our esteemed host is that while he is a CINO, he is an honest, straight up sort of fellow.
      
      It may burn him deeply that he was so comprehensively wrong about Trump and that he continues to have recurring bouts of his Tds problems – however, the titanic nature of this revelation that proves Obama is (as many have long suspected) a crook on a titanic scale that dwarfs Nixon’s itty bitty naughtiness – is starting to look like one of those watershed revelations.
      
      I believe our host is, as he’s done before, biting down on his visceral irrational hatred for Trump and putting together a punchy pithy blogpost examining this issue.
      
      I’ve underestimated our host’s integrity before and he’s usually proven my cynicism wrong.
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:24am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        DifferentPerspective, I agree with you regarding honesty and integrity from DPF, I have never once called that into question. Most people here would know I have supported Trumps run for President though I had misgivings about his suitability in the past, I always thought he was better than Hillary. I was one of the original “Trump will win” posters here and I am glad to see that my fears about his suitability as President were unfounded.
        DPF can support who he wants but it is becoming increasingly obvious that it’s no longer tenable to stick with the partisan line that the DNC are less corrupt than the Trump administration. That includes Pelosi, Clinton and quite a few staffers in powerful positions.
        When DPF runs his post I am sure it will be factual and will point out flaws in my own argument. That will just ensure that I learn more and get educated on aspects I hadn’t thought of. I look forward to it.
        
        Once again I am glad of the opportunity to comment here, it is the most liberal blog in the country regarding freedom of comments and I try damn hard not to lose that right.
        
        So with that said – Thanks David, I am in no way disparaging of your your blog or the fine people who comment here. If I were to recommend a place to people it would be KIWIBLOG!
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:35am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        ABS sorry. My intention was not to impugn you at all or to suggest you were having a pop at our host. Apologies.
        
        It was just a clumsy attempt to express the same sort of appreciation (that you did) for the valuable public service Mr F offers us all here.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:50am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        I didn’t take offense 🙂
        And I didn’t mean to intimate DPF wouldn’t report on it either, personally I thought it was more important than “Taxes on Sugar” but that’s my personal opinion. To each their own peculiar subjects lol.
        That said the release of the memo is huge news, and merely confirms what the majority of us have suspected during the last year of enduring constant negative press.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:57am
  - cmm
    
    BM:
    
    Obama has option three available:
    
    3) I’m black so don’t hold me to your white-boy standards.
    
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    February 3, 2018 3:22pm
- simpleton1
  
  There has always been a mild smell that only raised a mild curiosity.
  Many people do not recognize the smell of gangrene.
  A sweet sickly smell, but when the bandages are ripped off, is overpowering with its toxic sweetness and can be seen as the stench arises from the greenish yellowish pus of soup.
  
  Any infectious parts to be washed away.
  Heaps of exposure, sunlight, antiseptic, cleansing, is needed before the healing can start.
  The surrounding area to be disinfected so that reinfection does not occur.
  
  It is still dangerous, as it can contaminate and lead to many other complications, until totally cleansed.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:07am
- Milhous
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  It’s a GOP memo.
  
  The Dems one exposes it for the pathetic attempt to derail the DOJ as it closes in on the obese criminal Trump for collusion AND obstruction of justice …….but the committee won’t release that one ( GOP controlled).
  
  Very very Nixonian .
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:08am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    18 U.S. Code § 1001 – Statements or entries generally
    (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
    (1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
    (2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
    (3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
    shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. If the matter relates to an offense under chapter 109A, 109B, 110, or 117, or section 1591, then the term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be not more than 8 years.
    18 U.S. Code § 1621 – Perjury generally
    US Code
    Whoever—
    (2) in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true;
    is guilty of perjury and shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by law, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This section is applicable whether the statement or subscription is made within or without the United States.
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:14am
    - Milhous
      
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      This is a desperate Hail Mary from the Republicans who now know that there so called fraud of a President is guilty of collusion and obstruction of justice.
      
      They also know that many many elements of the Steele dossier have been proved and more is to come.
      It’s a laughable lame attempt to mitigate the outcome for the obese criminal in chief.
      
      It’s amazing to see the alt right cling on to this as their last hope . If the shoe were on the other foot, you would dismiss it, and rightly so.
      
      It’s a joke. A desperate, pathetic joke.
      
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      February 3, 2018 8:23am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        obese criminal in chief
        Well your argument has convinced me. But you should really add ‘small hands and orange cheeto’ to the list.
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:26am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Republicans who now know that there (sic) so called fraud of a President is guilty of collusion and obstruction of justice.*
        
        *citation needed
        
        It’s a joke. A desperate, pathetic joke
        1 shekel has been deposited into your account
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:27am
      - KevOB
        
        This memo was presented to the full Congress. It’s a simple statement of facts about conduct of public officials.
        If some people are aggrieved so be it.
        
        Thank God we live in New Zealand.
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:41am
      - softail 1450
        
        milhouse/streppieboy,,,,FO.
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:57am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    I suppose you believe in “The Pisstapes” too, Milhous? The politicized wing of the DOJ and FBI colluded with the DNC to destroy an electoral candidate. A clear crime in American law.
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:23am
    - Milhous
      
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      The “piss tapes” are more believable (given the obese criminal in chiefs penchant for porn stars), than this joke of a memo.
      
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      February 3, 2018 8:28am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        You know he is a renowned germophobe right? He won’t hug people fully clothed and you think he will let Russian prostitutes pee on him?
        Jesus mate, get some help.
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:33am
      - Milhous
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        ABS….
        
        Didn’t say I believed the “piss tapes”, just said they were more believable than this joke of a memo.
        
        Jesus man learn to read.
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:36am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Milhous, let me spell it out a little for you. Andrew McCabe testified under oath that the FISA court application to spy on Trump and his campaign would not have been sought or granted if it wasn’t for the “Steele Dossier”. Fact, undisputed, given under oath.
        
        The Dossier was put together by Steele with extensive help from Ed Baumgartner and probably Nellie Ohr at Fusion GPS. The Clinton campaign (and the DNC and the Obama Campaign fund) paid Fusion GPS via lawyers Perkins Coie- known and undisputed public information. Fusion GPS paid Steele, and Steele gathered his information form “Russian sources” said by Steele to be active in the Putin Administration. Steele himself cannot visit Russia (he is banned from travelling there) so Ed Baumgartner and others were used to collect info that Steele could not get by email or phone calls. That information was paid for.
        
        Now, active members of the Putin Adminsitration do not provide “classified” information to ex-MI6 agents casually, not if they wish to continue being active in any sense, so the FSB, the Russian security agency would be aware of the data being passed and would have approved of it. This is conjecture but very well based conjecture I suggest.
        
        So then we have information being passed from the Russian security agency to the Clinton Campaign for money- if you want to find collusion look no further, there is is.
        
        And this data was then used by the DOJ and FBI by still employed persons before the FISA court with critical facts suppressed like the origin of the data. I doubt that the tamest judge would have issued a FISA warrant based on data known to be from the Clinton campaign.
        
        Rod Rosenstein, the deputy AG who commissioned Mueller to investigate just the Trump campaign was fully complicit in this illegal and deceptive behaviour. He must resign, and with that his appointment of Mueller must be withdrawn. Mueller is investigating Trump for Russian collusion based on material obtained by collusion and obtained from the Russian FSB themselves. The Russians must be pissing themselves laughing with just how gullible and stupid the US is over this.
        
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        February 3, 2018 11:03am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Great comment Ed. Would upvote a hundred times if I had the stephieboy cabal log in details.
        
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        February 3, 2018 12:21pm
    - Ross12
      
      Milhous
      Last week two FBI guys went through the memo and said there were no factual errors.
      Meanwhile your hero Mueller and his gang with unlimited budget have spent a year trying desperately to find evidence of collusion and have not come with anything.
      
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      February 3, 2018 8:45am
      - Milhous
        
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        The memo is partisan. Omits context and other facts, parts of it are classified and the GOP won’t allow a democrat rebuttal document to be released.
        
        This is desperate stuff. Classic diversionary politics. The evidence of collusion and obstruction of justice is overwhelming . Much like his shit reality TV dross, his tacky presidency is doomed.
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:52am
      - Ross12
        
        No Milhous.
        The Committee are just saying the Democrat memo must go through the same process as the released one.
        But don’t worry leaker Schiff will release it as per normal if it is worthwhile.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:00am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        the GOP won’t allow a democrat rebuttal document to be released.
        Bullshit. Democrats can release any document they want. That’s what led us to this point. Are you really trying to tell us the Democrats can’t rebut every point that has so far been released? Somehow the GOP is gagging them?
        You really are a special kind of stupid.
        
        Much like his shit reality TV dross, his tacky presidency is doomed.
        Says increasingly nervous man for the 12th time today.
        DOOMED I TELL YA!
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:02am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    ABS – let me translate for you……
    
    Milhous: “Any evidence that proves I’m delusional is faked, discredited and a lie. It will take more than proof to convince me that I’ve been hallucinating my whole life. I’m not a gullible, dribbling idiot. I’m NOT. Waaaaaaaaaaaa I can’t hear you! Waaaaa – where’s my pussy hat?”
    
    To make a conservative angry, tell a lie.
    To make a liberal angry, tell the truth.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:30am
- oldpark
  
  Agent Ballsack.
  
  Full release of the Memo can be viewed on the news outlets “.Drudge Report”,Fox News,and in total coverage by many USA news outlets under the heading of “Realclearpolitics”.
  Well done for your total exposure of the now tainted FBI and their questionable Department of Justice.What a web they have weaved ,when they set out to deceive.
  Lets hope a pending claim for hurty feelings in NZ,by a certain individual,deals with the truth and not rumours and innuendos,favouring the alleged aggrieved.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:29am
- Scott
  
  Yes it seems to me that the whole Trump Russia collusion story investigation was based on false information bought and paid for by the democrats.
  I’ve always thought that Trump is a Manchurian candidate, a traitor to his country who is only president because the election was tilted by the Russians was incredible.
  Now we see that the investigation into collusion was based on false evidence planted by the democrats.
  Congress should do their job. This whole Mueller investigation is based on a false premise and should be wound up asap.
  
  But Trump is doing what he promised to do in the campaign and that was to drain the swamp. And we can see now that there are swamp creatures who should not hold office and need to be fired.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:36am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Steele & Fusion GPS (Democrat funded), leaked his story to Yahoo News, then pointed to the fact it was in the news to give it credibility to the FBI. Despite Ohr and Strzok knowing it was untrue they then applied for a FISA warrant based on this information.
    Steele was suspended and then terminated as an FBI source for what the FBI defines as “the most serious of violations”.
    They quoted their own fake news to collude against Trump.
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:46am
    - chiz
      
      None of that is true. The Yahoo story was used as evidence that the investigation was becoming public and that Page might try to cover his tracks. Steele wasn’t suspended or terminated as a source – the FBI never had a formal relationship of that type with him.
      
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      February 3, 2018 3:47pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        They paid him, or so the memo claims. So he is a source of theirs as well. They used him before, for example on the FIFA investigation.
        
        The Yahoo story was used as corroborative information to the FISA court to show another source for the information, only it wasn’t a separate source just a separate release of the same info.
        
        Page had no need to cover his tracks, he’s not involved in anything untoward with Russians as far as we know. He certainly has not been charged with anything. He has well known and extensive contacts with a number of Russians, something that is not (yet) illegal as long as it isn’t used illegally.
        
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        February 3, 2018 4:28pm
  - Scott
    
    Katie Pavlich on Twitter sums it up –
    
    “All along, it was the Clinton campaign, some in Obama’s DOJ and Fusion GPS that were colluding with a foreign entity to influence the election. The exact thing they’ve accused the Trump campaign of doing, they are guilty of.”
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:46am
- AgentBallSack
  
  FBI Director James Comey abused his government position in a conspiracy with FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, FBI Investigator Peter Strzok, Deputy and Acting Attorney General Sally Yates, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, Assistant Attorney General Dana Boente, and Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr to prevent the election of President Donald Trump and then to impede him in carrying out his duties as President by suborning the perjury of Christopher Steele to maliciously obtain a warrant to spy upon candidate Trump’s campaign and President Trump’s administration for politically partisan purposes.
  
  Those are felonies.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:53am
  - Ross12
    
    Apparently ( according to Sara Carter who has been on this, and proven correct, for a long time) this represents a small percentage of what will come out.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:02am
    - Harkman
      
      Sara Carter, must have spectacular sources because, as you said quite rightly, she was writing about all of this back in March/April last year.
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:45am
      - Ross12
        
        She is right again Harkman. The Senate Judiciary Committee ( under Sen. Grassley) is coming out with their own memo
        
        “Paul Sperry
        @paulsperry_
        BREAKING: The Senate Judiciary Committee also has a memo on Steele, the dossier and the FBI, and is working to get it declassified.
        
        11:20 AM – Feb 3, 2018
        77 77 Replies 1,133 1,133 Retweets 1,710 1,710 likes”
        
        BTW. Can someone please tell me how you copy the images of tweets as opposed to coping text like I have here.
        
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        February 3, 2018 12:52pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Hi Ross, only DPF can embed posts here. Best we can do is link to them like this, or screenshot them and upload them to an image sharing site like TinyPic or similar and share that link.
        
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        February 3, 2018 12:57pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Curious similarity – US and NZ socialists – oppose releasing official information
  
  It turns out that release of the memo was opposed and obstructed every step of the way by the dnc ranking member on the committee! Refer to the memo here.
  
  Sounds awfully like our never lying lying PM who after promising “complete transparency and openness” is leading a government that is relentlessly secretive and obstructive.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:45am
- thedavincimode
  
  Certainly looking forward to the Trumpy channel tonight. Can’t wait to see who Carlson has invited to be the sacrificial democrat for target practice. The Eddie Munster lookalike will be beside himself. Lots of beer required I expect.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:06am
- stephieboy
  
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  ABS , this is how the more mature see the highly partisan and cherry picked memo ,
  
  “Nunes drops his cherry-picked memo: This is it?!”
  
  House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), who previously created a short-lived firestorm over a non-scandal about “unmasking” names from surveillance, tried his best to assist President Trump by concocting and today releasing a memo that sought to sabotage the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and Trump’s subsequent efforts to disrupt that investigation. After a huge buildup, a scant memo of less than four pages makes the sweeping allegation that Christopher Steele’s dossier was the basis for obtaining a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance (FISA) Court to conduct surveillance on suspected Russian agent Carter Page. The memo turns out to be decidedly underwhelming and at times baffling.
  
  The memo acknowledges that the FISA warrant was extended multiple times. Nunes finds fault in the application because allegedly the court was not told that Fusion GPS which commissioned Steele at one point was paid by an attorney of Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Without proof, it claims he was hired to find disparaging evidence on Trump (Fusion GPS’s founder disputed this under oath). It claims Steele was an FBI source, an allegation for which we have no support. It claims, again without support, that Steele was fired as a source for leaking some of his findings to the press….”
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/02/02/nunes-drops-his-cherry-picked-memo-this-is-it/?utm_term=.164d0be2ef66
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:21am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Is that the official line of the DNC stephie?
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:04am
    - stephieboy
      
      ABS, it’s the line of rational and reasoned thinking people conspicuously lacking in much of the GOP their leader and followers these days .
      
      You know of thing .ridiculous e.g Clinton based conspiracies theories whirling around inside their bonnets
      
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      February 3, 2018 12:14pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Conspiracies are fun though. You should know!
        
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        February 3, 2018 1:00pm
  - Ross12
    
    sb –if it is as that article says why did the FBI/DoJ fight so hard for it not to be released and also fight for names to be redacted?
    I note it uses the words “claims” repeatedly inferring it is not necessarily correct ( like WP uses anonymous sources) but as I said above two senior FBI guys went through it last week and found no factual errors.
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:39am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Simpson’s testimony will come under further scrutiny, it is quite apparent that he was somewhat economical with the truth in his testimony – which was under oath I think.
    
    Here’s a challenge:
    
    The Clinton campaign and others paid Fusion GPS for opposition research on Trump, the payments made and written off as legal expenses via Perkins Coie, correct ?
    
    Fusion GPS employed Steele for at least some of the research and paid him, establishing a chain of payment from Clinton to Steele, correct ?
    
    Steele produced the dossier given his name containing quite a lot of information, some known to be false, some unverified, and some insignificant points that are true (Eg Carter Page travelled to Moscow), correct ?
    
    That Dossier was presented to the FISA court as evidence to get a surveillance warrant over Page’s contacts and communications. When presented the source of the document was known to th FBI but was NOT disclosed to the court, correct ?
    
    Any real dispute with those statements ?
    
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    February 3, 2018 4:35pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  @AgentBallSack
  
  Have you read Ross McKitrick’s account of the background to the Nunes memo and the Horowitz report?
  https://www.rossmckitrick.com/uploads/4/8/0/8/4808045/nunesmemo.pdf
  
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  February 3, 2018 12:45pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Not until just now Maggy, but it’s pretty damn accurate to what we know so far. I never believed the Loretta Lynch cover story and it was obvious that Strzok, Obama and many others covered for the Bleachbit email affair.
    Thanks for the link. Most of the details are commonly suspected, and reported elsewhere but interesting to see the depth of McCabes involvement as well. Maybe he has a conscience?
    
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    February 3, 2018 1:13pm
- Scott Chris
  
  Ballsack, the memo is a partisan nothing burger and you know it. Written in the style of a blog post by Trumpist hack Nunes it isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.
  
  Apart from anything else Carter Page was under FBI surveillance way before The Fucking Moron entered the race for consorting with Russian spies.
  
  Pure propaganda.
  
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  February 3, 2018 2:02pm
- Scott
  
  Great quote from twitter this afternoon –
  
  “Democrats were very interested in a political party colluding with a government to throw an election til it emerged it was them.”
  
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  February 3, 2018 3:36pm
NZpatriot

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
I am interested in whether people on this forum really follow Whale Oil any more.

Please uptick if you generally follow Whale Oil, and downtick if you generally do not.

Cheers.
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February 3, 2018 8:00am
- AgentBallSack
  
  No. Used to but got perma-banned after questioning them. Don’t even visit the place.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:07am
  - Biscuit
    
    Ditto, AgentBallSack, I pointed out (by email) an error in one of the Quizzes they run every so often and the poor petal who got that email didn’t bother to graciously acknowledge my pointing out their (maybe it was HIS?) error but just banned me.
    
    Last time I bothered to look there, the site is fast becoming a ‘Give Me Money’ affair with ads for how you can subscribe and, good grief, a CROSSWORD for those who DO subscribe.
    
    Life is too short etc etc…
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:12am
    - softail 1450
      
      biscuit, a few months ago i made the mistake of clicking on WO’s” free month offer”.
      when they asked for credit card details I cancelled their free offer.
      they hounded me for weeks to take up their offer with emails ,and only stopped when my last email read “just fuck off”.
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:03am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        “just fuck off”
        Ironically that was the last message I got from the late Pete Belt
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:44am
  - Chris R
    
    I read WO most days but have long since given up commenting there. The reason for my choice is the arbitrary manner with which their otherwise sensible moderation policy is enforced. I note the most brutish Moderator, “Pete,” has recently left but his damage is now entrenched. WO has evolved into a “family fireside chat room” where only colourless subjects are allowed free-rein. It is a shame, however I continue to have some affection for Cameron and the site. “Pete,” was a classic example of when you give a small personality a wide discretion, the discretion dies quickly.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:34am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Sacking TravDog was one of his biggest mistakes other than hiring Belt in the first place.
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:45am
- waikatogirl
  
  What’s it to you?
  Just interested in your reason for asking
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:08am
  - NZpatriot
    
    Hi Waikatogirl, you were interested in my reason for asking.
    
    Just pure curiosity, no pecuniary interest haha. I used to follow it closely as i appreciated some of the political insights, but now find the ‘analysis’ is driven by personal vendettas like about John Key and Judith Collins, and now something about Bill English. Whale Oil simply does not seem reasonable and I all I am after are reasonable arguments from people.
    
    It has way too many random videos, too much content.
    
    And way too much e-begging, which is pretty embarrassing.
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:41am
    - Gravelroad
      
      I look at WO but don’t comment -too easy to get banned!
      I find the personal vendetta by the WO “business owner” against Bill English and Co, tiresome and subjective – and it impacts on the integrity of the whole blog.
      However, most of the commenters there make interesting contributions which are not generally strewn with offensive language, personal insults and irrational thought processes…………
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:03am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      You should have gone with “Uptick if you think WhaleOil is…”. Your post gets hidden here after a ratio of 30 downticks.
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:08am
    - lifesgood
      
      NZpatriot. I am the same as you, used to follow it closely every day but find it is now just a hate fest against Bill English. Talk about Winston’s utu, WO is just as bad. He thinks his beloved Judith should be leader and will hate Bill for ever because he is and she isn’t. A lot of people who used to give him inside info don’t any more, he is too toxic. I think his blog is getting desperate for readers now and the constant begging is a real turn off…that and his personal vendettas.
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:00am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      To be fair, Slater needs to support his family and there’s no reason he couldn’t make coin from the blog – after all I’m not so sure he has other saleable talents and his petulant personality would make him ‘the employee from hell’.
      WOBH changed dramatically, and not for the better, when some of Slater’s key sources dried.
      I infinitely prefer the ‘reasoned discussion’ style of WOBH without the silly comments, the personally abusive comments and the foul language that appears here sometimes, but a reasonable expectation that posters not criticise the blog owner became a rule that fawning sycophants only need apply.
      The free blog is not worth the time to visit these days, and I would hope the content you get on subscription is better.
      Perhaps someone in the ‘Members Box’ could enlighten us.
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:00am
- peterwn
  
  I admit to briefly looking at Whaleoil daily but with the salt shaker handy. I rarely comment on postings nowadays. Whaleoil and MSM do have something in common – they are trying to oust Bill English.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:11am
  - Paulus
    
    peterwn
    Agreed I look some days but all I see is obsession along with his friend Peters to denigrate both the National Party and Bill English, whom they both hate vitriolically.
    Also WO’s obsession with Judith Collins, whom I like, is silly – surely any support from WO is like the kiss of death for her.
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:18am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Yeah, quite the Oedipus Complex he`s got there with Judith.
      
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      February 3, 2018 8:36am
    - peterwn
      
      I doubt Cam is any friend of Winston (calling him the pensioner from St Mary’s Bay etc) but was in tune with some of Winston’s political thinking eg on immigrants. Hence he pushed Winston a being someone (useful idiot?) who could influence National on immigration etc but who would not do a coalition deal involving the Greens. So he was like all those who supported Winston to ‘teach National a lesson’ and the whole thing blew up in their faces so he then tried to blame Bill English for it.
      
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      February 3, 2018 8:37am
      - Swifty
        
        That’s my view.
        
        Slater, the self-proclaimed political genius, didn’t reckon on Winnie going with Labour.
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:44am
      - VicParking
        
        My enemy’s enemy is my friend. WO will suck the tit of anyone to bring down Bill
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:17am
      - KKKKatee
        
        Slater appears to have a personal vendetta against Bill English so it’s ‘utu’ from Slater to English.
        However, I do concede that WO gets fed inside info and that at times, Slater does predict things correctly. I’m just over his ‘Bill Bashing’.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:30am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        My understanding is that it relates to English having a role in John Slater’s ousting from the role of President of the National Party.
        
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        February 3, 2018 10:34am
      - namron
        
        65 years ago I got a book called 3rdHoliday Book written by Enid Blyton. All stories were written to show how “morals” could work out in actual life.
        At the age of 9, one has remained firmly in my mind and I have seen and followed many examples in “life.”
        Now I have one eye on Sindy [notice the spelling] and Winny!! It doesn’t seem that they have read –
        “PRIDE COMES BEFORE A FALL
        
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        February 3, 2018 11:21am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I’m there for the kitten videos
    
    I am very easily pleased
    
    I am banned from commenting and don’t care as much of the content is not up to the majority of the better quality content here
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:26am
- MrTips
  
  Are you offering him your marketing services? 🙂
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:16am
- notrotsky
  
  Used to, gave up once he started to suck a little too much on Winston’s salty old scrotum and got tired of his chasing after anyone/everyone who he has a vendetta against.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:08am
- gorse
  
  I gave up, they always hammer Bill English and push Judith Collins. She will be the death knell of National if made leader. Ask around your friends if you don’t believe me, I have none that rate her.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:24am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Paula would make a better leader than Judith. Judith is tainted but nothing will make Cam see that. He is so desperate to be “the one whispering words in the ear of power” he would destroy the National Party in order to achieve it. He has most of the smarts of his father, but none of the tact required to implement it.
    In short, fuck WhaleOil just another quasi Standard type circlejerk.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:50am
  - Piniwi
    
    Yes gorse but we must wonder just how good WO insider gossip is when Judith Collins herself says she is not interested in being leader. Do believe her when she thanks Bill English for giving her current shadow portfolio responsibilities.
    IMO she is revelling in her current position and doing some of her best work while looking her best doing what she is good at with enthusiasm. Now we just need other MP’s in their team to take a lesson from her on how to prepare questions for OQT. Sure it is a tall order with SO many hard questions to be posed which will increase to greater volumes by the day. Mallard has started to tire of the obfuscation as he struggles to maintain order in the House.
    
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    February 3, 2018 3:54pm
- stephieboy
  
  NZ Patriot , you need to understand that the GOP and Trump fan base here’re not given to intelligent , nuanced and rational thinking
  
  Especially when it comes to such a biased and partisan memos like this one .
  
  They instead prefer the denial option of burying their heads in their sand filled beach buckets ..
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:26am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    OMG – the irony meter just exploded !!!
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:13am
- stephieboy
  
  NZ Patriot , interesting way how Truth, facts and unpopular ideas on KB are dealt with .
  
  The head in the beach bucket full of sand syndrome .
  
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  February 3, 2018 12:38pm
  - GazzaW
    
    Well stephieboy you could always pick up on the suggestion that’s been made many times over and just fuck off to somewhere that meets your high intellectual standards. 20,742 comments and you’re still here. Makes me think you either love us or it just happens to be your day on the Young Labour roster in which case I would say you’re wasting a fine sunny day and it’s a day in your life that you will never get back.
    
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    February 3, 2018 3:34pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Not anymore. Got banned for using FFS a few years ago. His anti Bill, pro Winston was the last straw. Now refuse on principle to ever visit his site.
  
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  February 3, 2018 2:34pm
Monique Watson

https://pickle.nine.com.au/2018/02/02/12/23/record-110000-condoms-at-athetes-village-for-winter-olympics-in-pyeongchang
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February 3, 2018 8:00am
Captain Mainwaring

Has Queen Jacinda or any of her ‘Ministers’ had the slightest word of sympathy or encouragement for the hundreds of locals and tourists whose lives have been turned upside-down on the West Coast of the South Island?
No, that’s not the lefty way. You have to join the union before you get looked after.
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February 3, 2018 8:08am
- KevOB
  
  Conversations are being arranged for April next year.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:44am
  - Luke Piewalker
    
    No they have to form a committee first … so they can decide what the conversation will be about
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:26am
    - howitis
      
      Student Politics 101
      Much ado about nothing.
      Nothing done about anything.
      Ever.
      Except taxes.
      No trees, no houses, no poverdy reduction.
      
      Lets go to Waitangi for Hui not Dooey.
      
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      February 3, 2018 11:49am
- Inandout
  
  I believe Pt Chev and the Ponsonby coffee circuit was untouched, so no she would not comment.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:50am
- KKKKatee
  
  No, nothing has been reported as such.
  Far too many other important issues to attend to – such as talking rubbish at Waitangi – or should I say selling her soul at Waitangi……..
  For 5 days!!!!!!!
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:32am
- GazzaW
  
  ……..and once again Faafoi in his capacities as both Minister for Civil Defence and Minister for Tourism has displayed his ineffectiveness. He’s probably too busy scoffing the party pies in Waitangi.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:18am
  - KiWombat
    
    Faafoi should be down on the West Coast to see first hand what needs to be done. Tomorrow will be too late – most of the mess is being cleared away now !
    
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    February 3, 2018 7:54pm
- backster
  
  Priorities man. rubbing noses and distributing koha
  among the indigenous far more stimulating.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:31am
kowtow

While the media obsess about the racist , hate filled ,divider Trump they don’t seem at all concerned that the most powerful wimmin in the world the world can’t form a gummint.
All because Germans don’t really want their country flooded with third world Muslims .

You see , we are meant to welcome them!

‘Germany has been in political limbo since a September 24th election in which Merkel failed to win a clear majority, in part due to the rise of the anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (AfD) which took millions of votes from all major parties.’

https://www.thelocal.de/20180202/serious-differences-still-blocking-government-deal-says-merkel

Meanwhile because European gummints don’t defend their borders more migrants drown. 90 in the latest incident . The politicians have those deaths on their hands and are responsible for the crime wave that comes with the migrants.
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February 3, 2018 8:10am
- Inandout
  
  Only human traffickers have blood on their hands, and most of us don’t lose any sleep about migrants who visit Davey Jones locker. The communist Merkel’s days are severely numbered.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:54am
  - marcw
    
    Can’t uptick you sorry Inandout – yes the traffickers are guilty, but it is the politicians who enable them. Australia (specifically Howard and Abbott) have shown how it can be done, and drowned refugees/fakeugees/queue jumpers are now almost unheard of on the way to Australia.
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:02am
- Digmen1
  
  They need to tow all those boats back.
  They need to build a wall on the Turkish border.
  Give them the message that
  “They will not get through to Europe!”
  
  Send them all back.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:59am
- Liberty
  
  “The politicians have those deaths on their hands”
  No the responsibility is the people smugglers. Of which the the inept media fail to bring to account.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:06am
  - kowtow
    
    Politicians refuse to enforce their borders. This directly plays into the hands of the smugglers who use the lack of enforcement to continue their trade.
    
    As pointed out the Australians have shown the way. How hard can it be?
    
    The conclusion must be that , like the Democrats in the USA , they are happy for illegal migration to continue, to have unscreened unknowns migrate , to allow the deaths to continue and to destroy the social fabric of their own countries.
    
    Islam is and was always at war with the west and these politicians, media , NGOs etc are on the side of the invaders.
    
    Treachery, and at the very least manslaughter ,on the part of the politicians who are failing in their basic duty to their own electorates.
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:31am
- VicParking
  
  I thought for a moment you were talking about the real (In her own mind) most powerful women in the world, The tooth Fairy
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:20am
  - tf78
    
    You mean the “Rock Star PM” according to Claire Trevett.
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:53am
- Nutta
  
  Rape proof shorts are a thing for women in Germany now. Wonder why that is?
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/fashion/101124182/Women-are-ordering-rape-proof-shorts?
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:06am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Weren’t these invented for their wives by Christian men going off to the Crusades?
    
    There is nothing new under the sun.
    
    Where are the feminazi?
    Getting your glitter tits nearly touched causes outraged marching in the streets, having to wear body armour for personal safety … crickets.
    
    No means No, except if your attacker is from the religion of peace then No is a cultural affront?
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:15pm
Paulus

Can anybody confirm that the Wedding of the Year will still take place in Waitangi next Tuesday.
Or are they still having a conversation and forming a committee about it ?
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February 3, 2018 8:12am
- Inandout
  
  To give baby Waru some meaning in life?
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:55am
  - Jack5
    
    Imagine little mates taunting:”Don’t be a Waru wart.”
    
    But doubtless Jacinderella will give the child a Maori title for second or third forename.
    
    There surely was a brand-name lecture in her PR degree course.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:08am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Bloody bound to…..
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:43am
    - Paulus
      
      She will get a translation of the name Helen (Hell) from Maori and use that as one of her many names
      
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      February 3, 2018 1:18pm
- KKKKatee
  
  God, I bloody hope not. That would be so OTT and a PR stunt.
  On another note, I see she was wearing those god damn awful shoes – the ones which have a thick strap over the ankle (if you’ve got fat ankles ladies, then it is an absolute no no to wear ankle-strap shoes). Fortunately, for me, I have very fine ankles and a flattering leg shape so can do ankle-strap shoes justice.
  Then she was also wearing a pair of ghastly greenstone dangly earrings – her way of giving to the nod to Waitangi in some bizarre way?
  And wearing a jacket on a hot day?
  The dress was lovely and appropriate for the burgeoning belly as I, personally, am not in favour of pregnant ladies stretching a tight-fighting tube over a bulging belly. Not classy at all.
  I am a fashion critic – I know what looks flattering and what doesn’t do the wearer any justice at all in case someone asks.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:07am
  - Jack5
    
    KKKkatee’s post includes this:
    
    … she was wearing those god damn awful shoes – the ones which have a thick strap over the ankle
    
    Damn! I thought Jacinderella kept those glass slippers she tried on before the ball.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:10am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Ha! Ha! She appears to have 3 pairs of shoes – her fav ankle boots which I noticed she was wearing on a hot summers day last week or so, the ghastly ankle strap shoes and she has a lighter pair of Sandel style with a biggish stack heel. The shops in NZ are full of beautiful shoes – why settle for ugly ones?
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:39am
      - Manolo
        
        Unfortunately, our PM is sartorially challenged.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:41am
      - lifesgood
        
        I’m with you on that ghastly fashion of stretchy clothes over pregnant tummies. When will women learn it looks dreadful, or are they trying to boast of the some man bedded them. That maori weather girl looked dreadful when expecting twins. No idea why the TV costume department didn’t have a word.
        
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        February 3, 2018 10:06am
      - howitis
        
        Why get people’s hopes up when we will all soon be wearing grey uniforms, all paid the same amount (poverdy begone, pay equity sorted! ) and wearing standard issue black vinyl shoes with black berets.
        Vive la Révolution
        All Hail Che.
        
        The Electric Lada MkII will be the standard issue vehicle.
        Built by KiwKar.
        Clothes by KiwiKloth.
        All haircuts done fortnightly at KiwiKut.
        Refusal to comply means a re-education stint at the Featherston work Kamp.
        All citizens will get one litre of milk per day.
        Issued by KiwiKow.
        It will be compulsory to have a picture of el Presdente Klark in every home, office and workplace.
        
        Further details will be issued 6 Feb 2019.
        That is all.
        
        (and you thought they were doing nothing in the first 100 days. )
        
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        February 3, 2018 12:17pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Preserve us from sartorial commentary. Stuff and Herald are =====> that way.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:47am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    ” I have very fine ankles and a flattering leg shape so can do ankle-strap shoes justice.”
    
    Careful, KKKKatee.
    
    You’ll have Johnboy on here any time soon, drooling and requesting some sort of unmentionable liaison. 😉
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:20am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Ha! Ha! No show!
      
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      February 3, 2018 2:03pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I love your fashion pieces.
    
    I am afraid I have let my standards slip a bit since I’ve moved out of the Public Service Jet set.
    (Though I haven’t worn my PJs down to the Warehouse yet)
    
    It is good to know that someone is keeping an eye on our political frumps.
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:43am
    - KKKKatee
      
      I like that -“Political Frumps”.
      Talk about frumps – we were at the races yesterday and this woman turns up in the sponsors lounge wearing veeery fitting white leggings with some sort of sack on top. Now, if she had a very nice pair of pins and wasn’t pushing 70 – although I shouldn’t comment on the age – it would have been another matter. These tights did nothing for her at all except accentuate every lump and bump and made her look like a tart. Especially when you get a full frontal view of their ‘camel toe’. Oh god, that’s when I just wanted to heave onto the plate in front of me. Most unattractive indeed. Ladies, we need to accentuate our good bits and downplay our bad bits. ‘Camel toes’ definitely out!
      BTW – I’ll be watching out for the PM dangling a piece of greenstone around her neck as a shout out to Waitangi.
      
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      February 3, 2018 2:15pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’ll be off to the (Annual) Gizzy races in a couple of weeks…
      Splashed out on an”outfit” last year… only to discover I could have gone in my gardening garb and red bands and still have been an entrant in the “best-dressed of the day.”
      
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      February 3, 2018 4:14pm
      - KKKKatee
        
        Do not, I repeat – do not dress down for any occasion! I can’t stand going to a wedding and seeing blokes wearing jeans! I mean the bride and groom are all dressed up, so should the guests! I love any excuse to put on my Sunday best! Went to my cousin’s funeral last week and dressed appropriately for the occasion. We were there to pay our respects and I showed my respect to him and his family by dressing appropriately. These young ones somehow think anything goes.
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:52pm
  - Huevon
    
    She looks busted. Her face is gaunt and lined. Skin is terrible.
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:58pm
    - cha
      
      But you’re more interested in the Stormy Daniels type, aren’t you?.
      
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      February 3, 2018 3:06pm
- Brian Marshall
  
  Haha, that made me laugh. Must be because it’s a Saturday and I have a long weekend that I’m having a great time reading the comments today.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:09am
- Viking2
  
  Sort of stunt she would pull.
  
  Has to be quick so she can take her husband to meet the Queen. From the rumours hinted he will need a diplomatic pass to get back in and not go to jail.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:03pm
flipper

Read for yourself and make your own assessment ………
Time for the USA to appoint a Commission (recommended by long time Democrat, Professor Alan Dershowitz) to prevent the weaponisation of agencies and Courts, as we should now prevent the scandalous use by Peters of NZ Courts.

http://static.foxnews.com/pdf/370598711-House-Intelligence-Committee-Report-On-FISA-Abuses.pdf
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February 3, 2018 8:16am
Happychappy

I see Winston is still trying to bluff National over his leveled Pension payments with declaring that he is satisfied the two Journalists are no longer in his definitions proceedings. It has to make you laugh as no sooner has that been released Clare Trevett joins Barry Soper and Audrey Young in having her crack at National by saying they released information to Winston and his Laywers that has obviously given them something to go ahead with that National don’t realise they have released, when are the media going to stop playing games and propping up Winstons Bluff as this release is all about Winston hitting 3.7% in the latest poll and trying to make out this is all the National Party’s fault.
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February 3, 2018 8:16am
- Gravelroad
  
  And still no word on Metiria’s case.
  Is there some sort of cover up going on there?
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:11am
  - peterwn
    
    If I was the MSD staffer concerned I would accidentally on purpose let the file fall behind the filing cabinet. I would value my continuing employment. Ginny Anderson was all concerned with corruption in the Public Service a while back – I doubt she would lose too much sleep over this suggestion of corruption.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:20am
  - GazzaW
    
    ……is the Pope a Catholic Gravelroad? All sorted with Labour as part of the support agreement. Unwritten of course.
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:28am
  - realityczech
    
    “And still no word on Metiria’s case.”
    
    There appears to be no case at all. This is the responsibility of the dept to prosecute. Clearly there is high level political interference here and that needs to be exposed.
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:42pm
- pdm
  
  I still reckon it was Winston himself you released that Super info.
  
  His cynical manipulation of the coalition talks reinforces that theory.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:27am
  - KiWombat
    
    I’m sure you’re pretty close to the money with that assumption
    
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    February 3, 2018 7:58pm
- RF
  
  The commie chick will be grinding her choppers about Peters, her deputy, still going ahead with the persecution of the Nats.
  
  It will not be a good time for someone who admits to wallow in self doubt and anxiety.
  
  I can see her tonto walking behind her carrying sacks of fairy dust in anticipation of adverse comments being voiced.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:47am
  - Happychappy
    
    RF: The media will need all that stardust to back up their latest name of Rockstar Prime Minister because of the stir she is making at Waitangi. Jacinda met with the Maori Wardens and now the media are saying she has amazed them because normally the PM does not meet with anyone apart from those Dignitaries invited to Waitangi.
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:39am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Yeah, well she isn’t allowed inside the big tent and take the stage firstly because she’s a woman and secondly, because she’s hapu! So she has to talk to someone. Even a dog would do. No point going all that way and spending 5 days at Waitangi in the hope and hell of making an impression and not taking the opportunity of talking to someone now is there.
      Otherwise, she may as well have stayed at home and enjoyed the comfort of her own home……
      Put her feet up and relaxed a tad……
      
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      February 3, 2018 11:02am
- KKKKatee
  
  I just wish Bazza and Audrey and Clare would make it their mission to bring Marama Davidson and Golly Gee down – are they or are they not first and foremost Politicians – or do they prefer to be Activists? That is the question I would like answered because I can’t see that being wearing both hats is helpful. So go and find something else to bash you old farts….
  It seems that every day Audrey or Bazz and Clare write something about Bill English. Boring……..
  And not a dicky bird about the glorious leader and her weaknesses…….
  Or the weaknesses of her right hand men……..
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:54am
  - Morrissey
    
    are they or are they not first and foremost Politicians – or do they prefer to be Activists?
    
    Surely politicians are activists and vice versa. We’re lucky to have such bright and brave young women in our parliament. Imagine if everyone was a talentless time-server like Maggie Barry or a slimy chancer like Todd Barclay.
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:25pm
    - KevOB
      
      Politicians (actual) think differently to activists who are more child like. We don’t pay for activists.
      
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      February 3, 2018 5:13pm
- Harkman
  
  National needs to fight him on this. Winston miscalculated on this, the more the public learn of this, the more we see that he had no intention of going with National. So next time Winston can no longer claim “to keep them honest.” It becomes a binary choice between National and not National, any National supporter considering a third party will think again. That is why he is under 5% and going down.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:38am
  - peterwn
    
    I do not hold Winston’s negotiating tactic against him. At work we wanted to buy a plot of land for a fairly big ‘zone’ substation. Plots L and N were on the market with both vendors keen to sell. L was the preferable site but we did not tell the L and N vendors that. So we got it for a good price as L was worried we would buy from N. Think L=Labour and N=National, it was a fair tactic on Winston’s part.
    However if Winston had leaked his Superannuation matter with the aim of blaming National and the media of leaking, that would be highly questionable.
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:27pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Sore loser, you are.
    
    It’s a Labour led government for the next three, probably nine, years. Deal with it. Don’t keep on being a sore loser.
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:30pm
Paulus

Peters fluff has made my day – go for it you silly old sod.
Anything to denigrate the National Party and Bill English who told you to sling your hook.
Don’t worry the media who have been “exonerated” by him are still quite complicit but it does not suit his play.
Surely his Partner, as an intelligent woman, along with their dog, will tell him to wind his neck in.
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February 3, 2018 8:22am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  His partner must be only superficially intelligent if she chooses to spend her life with that dreadful prick.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:31am
  - cmm
    
    Nice house and baubles. He’s out of town most of the time. Perhaps a reasonable deal.
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:36am
    - lifesgood
      
      I had to laugh when he went to some meeting or other and she had to sit and wait outside in the car for the whole evening. He probably couldn’t drive because, you know, the green parrot. 🙂
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:09am
    - KiWombat
      
      He might be out of town for a very long time very soon
      
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      February 3, 2018 2:14pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Careful, Cap’n, your ulcer will eat you alive if you keep thinking about Winston Peters like that.
    
    Let’s face it: if he’d gone with the people who’d spent the previous nine years ridiculing and abusing him—remember Key’s reverent pledge in 2008 to not go into coalition with him?—then you would be his greatest champion.
    
    Don’t be a sore loser. You need to keep that ulcer down, my friend.
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:36pm
- cmm
  
  Yesterday I was browsing in the library and happened to notice Winnie’s mug on a magazine.
  
  Racing Times? No.
  Whiskey Monthly? No.
  Northland Gazzette? No
  
  It was Womans Weekly! Something like “What Winston Peters has had to sacrifice to be in parliament.”
  
  I bet he never had to sacrifice a certain $158k.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:35am
  - Morrissey
    
    Richer than you and smarter. Ain’t life a bitch.
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:38pm
    - cmm
      
      How dumb do you have to be to get caught with your hand in the till over $60 a week?
      
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      February 3, 2018 3:04pm
    - GazzaW
      
      A bit of an assumption Morrissey?
      
      He sure ain’t smarter and you have no idea at all of the good Captain’s wealth.
      
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      February 3, 2018 4:13pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Would Winston listen to his partner? He’s on a mission with destiny! ?
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:39am
3-coil

Lovely polite letter to editor in today’s ComPost:

“Speaker of the House Trevor Mallard was asked why he had dropped naming Jesus in the Parliamentary Prayer. His response was ‘most New Zealanders are not Christians’. Most New Zealanders don’t speak Maori , yet the prayer is given in Maori”.

Good point made by Fiona Russell.
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February 3, 2018 8:29am
- waikatogirl
  
  Even as an atheist I find Trevor’s assertion that ‘most New Zealanders are not Christians’ absurd. NZ is based on Christianity. I don’t care one way or another that Jesus is mentioned in the Parliamentary prayer but not all tradition has to be done away with.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:44am
  - KiWombat
    
    I’ll bet that if Parliament decided to forego the Christian holidays (Christmas, Easter etc.) to appease the “Non Christians,” there would be a revolt!
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:27am
    - KKKKatee
      
      What? And ruin the boozefests? No, that would never happen.
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:36am
- Huevon
  
  Lol. They hate God and they hate White People. That’s what motivates this.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:01am
  - NZpatriot
    
    Huevon, a correction sorry- they hate the Christian God. They love the Maori spiritual worldview. The incongruence is breathtaking, but that is where the neo-marxist, post-modern identity politics paradigm is taking our whole society and culture, to its demise.
    
    Incidentally, that is why I am enjoying Jordan Peterson so much, just as I have enjoyed Thomas Sowell – some beacons of reason who challenge the paradigm.
    
    Cheers.
    
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    February 3, 2018 1:15pm
- Liberty
  
  It might sound like Mallard speaking in Maori.
  It is in fact Mallard reading a christian prayer in english while eating a rat.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:26am
  - KiWombat
    
    I have absolutely no idea what he is chanting !
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:34am
    - GazzaW
      
      Has anyone noticed that Radio NZ is getting even worse with the proportion of Te Murri utilised particularly on Morning Report by the nauseous Espiner.
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:37am
      - lifesgood
        
        That’s why I no longer listen.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:57pm
    - Paulus
      
      Mallard has no idea either what he is chanting – he has been told to mumble whatever.
      
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      February 3, 2018 1:23pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    If porcelain chops is serious about making Maori compulsory in schools she better get a move on. Otherwise mallard will have completely destroyed it before this parliament is out.
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:17am
- KiWombat
  
  Don’t be ridiculous !
  
  Over 1/2 of a percent of the total vote was a party vote for them in Maori seats – they have quite a following !
  
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  February 3, 2018 2:16pm
cmm

The slow slide to VeNZlabour… and so it starts

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/101121737/mobil-stations-in–canterbury-and-otago-running-out-of-unleaded-petrol
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February 3, 2018 8:31am
- Liberty
  
  Only 100 days and there is already cracks in infrastructure.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:37am
  - Piniwi
    
    Cracks Liberty? So many popular beaches are un-swimmable because of shit floating (as it does to the top). Also floating in the streets in so many other regions.
    It is very apparent that most local bodies have been neglecting one of their primary responsibilities. A sorry case of local voters “getting their own back” out doing freedom campers taking a dump on their streets.
    
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    February 3, 2018 4:17pm
Yvette

Tim Murphy tweets –
‘Ha! … He got nothing he asked for and walked away tail between legs…
Thanks to all those who recognised this misguided and flawed attempt to intimidate media for what is was.”

So is Peters, issuing a statement yesterday afternoon saying action against the journalists had been amicably resolved “having provided the information required by Mr Peters’ legal team” – is Winston lying to all those his statement was intended for … like the entire nation.

And then Winston has named several other people in National.
Usually a leak is only one person, you would think.
So of the three or four remaining, if Winston concentrates on one, can the others sue Winston for defamation or whatever, since he has obviously wronged them if they are innocent?
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February 3, 2018 8:31am
- Milhous
  
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  Winston’s just following the obese criminal Trumps playbook of blatantly lying.
  
  Should be applauded by the resident alt right swivel eyed loons on this blog.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:40am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    If you hate your fellow contributors so much that you have to call them ‘alt right swivel eyed loons’ why don’t you just fuck off?
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:54am
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      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Only some in this blog are alt right swivel eyed loons.
      
      Many, including the blog owner, engage in insightful commentary.
      
      I’m happy to suffer the loonies for entertainment value.
      
      Thanks for your concern.
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:00am
      - stigie
        
        “Twat”
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:08am
      - KKKKatee
        
        So says the ‘alt-left swivel eyed’ loon.
        
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        February 3, 2018 10:38am
      - stephieboy
        
        Milhous , post of the week .
        
        Congrats !
        
        My thoughts exactly about our ” right swivel eyed “loons
        
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        February 3, 2018 10:49am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        “Post of the week”
        You’re easily impressed.
        
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        February 3, 2018 11:36am
      - Viking2
        
        KKKKatee
        
        So says the ‘alt-left swivel eyed’ ~~loon.~~ COON.
        
        there fixed that.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:15pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Je suis alt-right in this instance then
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:08am
      - thedavincimode
        
        Very good. Me too. I’m tired of only being cowardly pinko prog homo traitor scum.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:16am
      - stephieboy
        
        Paulus Gnome , therein is your problem .
        
        A deep seated one at that !
        
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        February 3, 2018 10:55am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Moi aussi
        
        Or should that be #MoiAussi?
        
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        February 3, 2018 11:23am
    - GazzaW
      
      “Conceited twat”
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:40am
    - GazzaW
      
      “Swivel eyed loon” is one of the ztev team’s favourite expressions. Is ztev just wearing a different hat this morning?
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:45am
  - flipper
    
    Milhous is one sad, sick son of a bitch with mush for a brain.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:01am
    - Milhous
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Not true. I just happen to believe that Trump is a corrupt , mendacious , narcissistic fraud and a disgrace to the right wing of politics.
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:04am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Unlike the messiah on the left then but throw in the word black to complete the ensemble
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:11am
      - thedavincimode
        
        I’m interested then, to see how that leads to the conclusion that hillary and her paid lackies at the DOJ and FBI aren’t crooks.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:18am
      - Brian Marshall
        
        Where is the evidence? All I see is leftist drivel pumped out by the fake news producing CNN, NBC and ABC repeated without any thinking by our left leaning news media. Trump has a style that is crass, but it’s effective. If we had Clinton #2 in the top job, I’d be more worried about the state iof international affairs. With Trump, Korea is no longer getting a free pass, the Muslim nations are not able to bully the one and only true representative democracy in the Middle East and the USA finally has a president that puts his own country’s interests first. I wish we had a primeminister that put our country’s interests first.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:23am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        I agree to an extent, but still the lesser of two evils with regard to H.R.Clinton.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:49am
      - Liberty
        
        Your are correct about Trump. But a mere amateur compared to our Winston
        And in a lust for power it didn’t take much for labour and the greens to jump into bed with him.
        
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        February 3, 2018 10:05am
      - MCos
        
        I don’t recall any NZ PM who hasn’t put the country’s interests first. That person would be guilty of sedition. Perhaps you could provide an example of a seditious act by one of our PMs?
        
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        February 3, 2018 10:12am
      - stephieboy
        
        Milhous , thank you for that masterly summing up about the incumbent !
        
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        February 3, 2018 10:50am
      - realityczech
        
        “Perhaps you could provide an example of a seditious act by one of our PMs?”
        
        Helen Clark worked tirelessly to undermine NZ and even attacked the most basic of democratic rights by changing the law to persecute citizens who did not support her part. Particularly alarming was her blatant persecution of a religious minority, done with the full support of the main stream media.
        
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        February 3, 2018 10:56am
      - MCos
        
        ‘Blatant persecution of a religious minority’
        That’s a serious allegation.
        Who are you referring to? What were the details?
        
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        February 3, 2018 11:59am
      - realityczech
        
        I am referring to her persecution of the Exclusive Brethren.
        
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        February 3, 2018 12:21pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Bretheren are nasty feckers, just like every other fundi group that excludes non-co-religionists and practises ostracism of those who leave and abusive treatment of women and children (crippling them with deficient education).
        
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        February 3, 2018 12:47pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        OK, so what corruption do you see. People use Trump Hotel in Washington, yet there’s (so far) zero evidence that they are in any way coerced into doing so. Anything else yet ?
        
        Not to indulge in whataboutism but have you examined the Clinton’s with respect to corruption, with special attention paid to their Foundation.
        
        Narcissistic, well all politicians probably have a high regard for themselves, yet Trump seems considerably less narcissistic than Obama at least, and I don’ recall you making that point. Obama, the “I’m a better speech writer than my speechwriters….”man, the one who used “I” something like 70 times in one speech. And mendacious, the “if you like your doctor….” and “I learnt about Hillary Clinton’s email server from the newspapers…” while sending confidential unencrypted emails to her at that address while she was in Russia,…..that person ?
        
        All politicians are flawed, most distinctly so. Trump just so happens not to fit your vision of what a politician must be, doesn’t make him unfit, in fact he appears to be doing a pretty reasonable job so far, despite the hindrances of the deep state trying to undermine him at every turn.
        
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        February 3, 2018 1:51pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    You might be a little happier over at WaPo. They’re peddling the same bullshit as you. Have fun!
    
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/02/02/the-nunes-memo-is-out-its-a-joke-and-a-sham/
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:25am
    - stephieboy
      
      ABS, what BS exactly ?
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:37am
      - VicParking
        
        Stephie, Morning. BS is the same as GS except it comes out your mouth instead of you goats arse, ??
        
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        February 3, 2018 11:52am
      - Ross12
        
        sb , why don’t you take the time to read the link given by Maggy above. A well written detailed summary of this issue by Ross McKitrick. It is all from publicly available information.
        
        https://www.rossmckitrick.com/uploads/4/8/0/8/4808045/nunesmemo.pdf
        
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        February 3, 2018 1:46pm
  - VicParking
    
    Milhous: Did you borrow Stephie’s goat for a good time last night ??
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:29am
    - stigie
      
      Stiffy kept a good grasp on his goat but the camel was available..?
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:45am
      - thedavincimode
        
        but the camel was available
        
        The ugly one or the good looking one?
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:56am
  - softail 1450
    
    milmouse ,yes CM is right piss off you idiot .
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:30am
    - sam green
      
      Because free speech and all…
      
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      February 3, 2018 3:49pm
- peterwn
  
  If it had been ‘amicably resolved’ as Winston suggested, Tim Murphy (one of Winston’s two journalist targets) would have shut up and not crow from the rooftop that he gave Winston nothing.
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:59am
- peterwn
  
  Public servants or staffers might be able to sue, but not politicians – refer to the Lange v Atkinson case.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:11am
- niggly
  
  LMFAO if it turns out that Winston’s obsession with National and his “leaked” pension details were due to the WO blog pushing that narrative.
  
  I note that only WO (and Barry Soper) who were initially pushing that narrative (eg that it was “National”) and both WO and Soper were Winston’s mouthpieces during the election. .
  
  Whereas DPF has previously said it was a “conspiracy theory” (and National yesterday said they weren’t at all concerned).
  
  Two different viewpoints and I know which one I’d trust.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:53am
  - cmm
    
    If it was any political party it would clearly have been the greens.
    
    It was just after the whole MeTu shitfest. Winston put in the boot hard on MeTu and called for her to resign etc.
    
    So a little green birdie working in WINZ might have got upset to see her Green Froggy Hero treated so badly and have decided to go for a little dig.
    
    And what does the little green he/she/it find? Winnie just couldn’t help himself. He just had to take that extra $60 a week.
    
    That is surely more likely than anything else.
    
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    February 3, 2018 3:51pm
- peterwn
  
  And now Cam Slater is claiming that Winston put it across successfully and that Tim Murphy is too thick to know he has been done. Pull the other one Cam, I have a nice bridge to sell you. If Tim was still ‘on the hook’ in any way he would have been far more circumspect in his comment – he is no idiot.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:57am
  - Colville
    
    When WO puts out an “opinion” like that the real only question is how much he was paid to publish it.
    
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    February 3, 2018 1:26pm
    - peterwn
      
      In fairness to Cam I do not think he is paid to publish – his ‘opinion’ is just part of his narrative to try and destabilise ill English.
      
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      February 3, 2018 2:32pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        I won’t downtick you but I have it on very good authority Cam runs paid stories. And was paid to run hit jobs on businesses such as Foodstuffs etc.
        
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        February 3, 2018 5:26pm
      - realityczech
        
        Agent would have the inside story given his involvement in sleaze.
        
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        February 3, 2018 5:34pm
Manolo

Today’s big hit:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/02/us-futures-move-lower-as-investors-worry-about-rising-yields.html

U.S. stocks fell sharply on Friday after a stronger-than-expected jobs report sent interest rates higher.

The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 550 points, with Exxon Mobil sliding 5.8%. The 30-stock index also fell below 26,000. Friday also marked the first time since June 2016 that the Dow fell at least 500 points.
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February 3, 2018 8:35am
- fernglas
  
  Trump to take credit?
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:58am
- AgentBallSack
  
  A minor correction Manolo 😉
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:22am
  - Manolo
    
    That is the nature of the markets, dear ABS.
    
    It will always be the case of ups and down, while the important thing is the trend.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:53am
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo . Including under Barrack or … ?
      
      As for the present incumbent could it be due to his somewhat unpredictable and erratic nature ?
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:38am
      - Manolo
        
        It is easy to conclude you have never invested any money in the markets.
        
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        February 3, 2018 4:26pm
  - Manolo
    
    The floor is red:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/02/us-futures-move-lower-as-investors-worry-about-rising-yields.html
    
    The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 650 points, with Exxon Mobil sliding 6.6% percent. Friday also marked the first time since June 2016 that the Dow fell at least 500 points.
    
    The S&P 500 fell 2%, with energy as the worst-performing sector. The Nasdaq composite declined 1.7%.
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:06am
Swifty

ztev,

yesterday you said I have ‘air’ regarding Tim Murphy refuting Winston’s narrative over his latest civil suit – while you proudly quoted your ‘sources’.

You claimed that the journos had both given information and folded because they have no money to defend it.

My source:

https://twitter.com/tmurphyNZ/status/959261762347413505

(I hope this link works ok)

Again, you calling Tim Murphy a liar? Or did you just pull yesterday’s comments out of your arse?
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February 3, 2018 8:40am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  b – arse
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:12am
- rightoverlabour
  
  WO has this response on the twitter feed
  
  Welcome aboard as a witness for the prosecution…subpoena on the way
  
  What the fuck does that mean? ( I won’t lower myself to go to his blog)
  
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  February 3, 2018 5:44pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Cam dripfeeds all sort of shit that doesn’t come true, a la Hannity and his “tick tock” comments. Still waiting on his Freed news site. It’s only been 4 years
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:44pm
    - peterwn
      
      ‘Spanish Bride’ commented on this recently. It seemed they had a benefactor lined up who was going to bankroll it but he died just before kick-off date. Presumably they would now hope to grow the present operation by building up a subscription base, but the trouble with this option is there are too many people (like me) who point blank refuse to subscribe – kittens or no kittens, crosswords or no crosswords.
      
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      February 3, 2018 11:19pm
- KiWombat
  
  Z isn’t here today – Public Service has the day off !
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:06pm
  - niggly
    
    Perhaps he’s been busy today looking under rocks or scouring valleys looking for squirrels so he can stockpile them ready to throw them our way tomorrow? 😉
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:07pm
  - GazzaW
    
    I reckon he’s been here all day under the Milhous monicker.
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:15pm
Manolo

It’s time to retire:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/confused-nancy-pelosi-stutters-forgets-whos-president-calls-trump-bush-video/

Minority Leader Pelosi got confused and mixed up on Thursday when speaking to reporters on the pending release of the House Intelligence FISA memo.

Pelosi stuttered and once again called President Trump “Bush” to a gaggle of reporters.
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February 3, 2018 8:43am
Manolo

A WSJ columnist on Trump:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-lefts-rage-and-trumps-peril-1517530358
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February 3, 2018 8:45am
Than

I had a hard time believing this article isn’t satire. But with no indication otherwise, I’m working from the assumption that it is meant seriously.

Public restrooms – is it sexist women always have to queue?

The author does not seem to be asserting that men’s bathrooms occupy more square footage than women’s bathrooms. Or that the plumbing is somehow better. Or that they are advantaged in any sense due to greater resources. Yet apparently, because the existence of the urinal allows men to finish peeing faster and using less space, this is dreadfully sexist and must be stamped out.

In a bizarre way (and I cannot believe the sentence I am about to write) this is socialism applied to bathroom queueing times. The author seems to be genuinely proposing that one urinal that might allow four or five men to pee simultaneously be replaced by two cubicles that would allow two individuals of either gender to pee simultaneously. Bathroom waiting times for women would drop somewhat, while those for men would go up significantly. The average waiting time for the overall population would go up. But apparently that’s a good thing, because everybody would be waiting longer equally.

FFS, is this how pathetic modern feminism has become?
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February 3, 2018 8:45am
- Inandout
  
  I thought real dikes pissed standing up?
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:59am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Possible for most women to piss standing up with appropriate finger positioning to direct the flow. Would make the world a much simpler place.
    
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    February 3, 2018 12:42pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      For some odd reason, I’m not willing to put this to the test.
      
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      February 3, 2018 2:41pm
      - Johnboy
        
        I’ve heard it’s easier to direct it if you’re a shaver Maggy? 🙂
        
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        February 3, 2018 2:43pm
      - Johnboy
        
        I shave so I can find my micro penis more easily of course! 🙂
        
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        February 3, 2018 2:45pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Johnboy
        
        Best not to share too much info, JB,
        It destroys my fantasies,,, and at my age, that’s about all I’ve got left.
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:10pm
- fernglas
  
  Real men would just piss in the handbasin, so it would never work
  
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  February 3, 2018 8:59am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Or the pot plants if you’re a liebour minister.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:57am
    - lifesgood
      
      Or hotel corridors
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:17am
- peterwn
  
  Wellington City Council phased out urinals when building or renewing public toilets but backtracked with Courtenay Place since there was insufficient space for a cubicle only facility.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:06am
- JibberJabber
  
  Oh my, how the Feminists have fallen, reduced to writing articles bemoaning their lack of a penis, nothing to do with equality, and all to do with the misfortune of biology and being born sans a pecker.
  Ironically, on the same day, some cuck wrote about the joys of sitting down to pee. Don`t have a link tho`?
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:11am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Knew a guy who had a bad back and had to sit down to pee- his doctor told him not to lift anything heavy. 😉
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:39am
- Yvette
  
  They could increase the throughput of toilets if you didn’t have to stand there so long reading door labels to know you are in the right place to do what you need to do –
  
  Ladies, Gents, Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex, Takatāpui, Whakawāhine, Tangata ira tāne, Fa’afafine, Fakaleiti, Akava’ine, Māhū, Vaka sa lewa lewa, Rae rae, Fiafifine, Fakafifine, Palopa, Kathoey, Hijra, Baklâ, Genderfluid, Genderqueer, Pansexual, Asexual, Queer and Questioning.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:26am
- VicParking
  
  I demand to be able to use female toilets. Stand while pissing and not put the seat up.
  
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  February 3, 2018 11:55am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Nothing to stop you – you just have to identify as female.
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:24pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Yes, those stroppy feminists ought to take care with what they wish for. Vic, for extra trauma, put the seat up after.
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:45pm
- Colville
  
  We should be all for equality of outcomes.
  If the girls need more loos to get done at the same speed then it behooves us to design for such.
  
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  February 3, 2018 1:30pm
  - Viking2
    
    Always wondered why no one thought of the ladies.
    Pees me off having to wait outside while the other half waits in the long que.
    The alternatives are fit more seats or sell plastic penises for ladies so they can stand and not need to take off all their clothes to pee. 😆
    
    Now I’m sure that somewhere someone has already made them. I’m right google tells me they are for sale on Aliexpress and alibaba and so on.
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:33pm
- Piniwi
  
  Funny to see Than but it could be because those with GID problems need to sit in prettier surroundings since they now look silly squatting in a urinal? It’s that or getting used of the trickle down effect.
  You can take the manly bits away but not the convenience at a convenience or the joys of a good shake that some enjoy. Then when one gets to the age where it “takes all night to do what one might have done all night” the shakes are part of the relief.
  
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  February 3, 2018 4:41pm
Simon

Fraud against the court. All those listed in the memo jail time. Some will roll over on Zero.

Fraud against the court and they investigated Hillary emails.

Hillary and Obama heading for jail time.

The memo is the start not the end.

Trump is Masterclass.
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February 3, 2018 9:08am
- Inandout
  
  The memo commenters on Stuff are screaming ‘fake news’ by Trump. What does it take to convince those on the Left that they are losing?
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:16am
  - Milhous
    
    Maybe when Trumps approval rating gets above 39%……( awaiting Labouresque “fake polls” retort)…..snigger
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:26am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Selective with your polling – not interested in the 75% approval for his SOTU?
      
      Nah! that wouldn’t support your delusional state would it?
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:34am
      - Milhous
        
        Yes. I refer to dozens of reputable polls with regards to his overall presidency…..you refer to one speech…..he didn’t write…but well done Donald…well read. Have a gold star.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:39am
      - Ross12
        
        The last poll I saw had Trump on the same level as Obama at the same period in his presidency.
        
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        February 3, 2018 1:49pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Funny DP the Commie Chick opted for a sermon like SNAFU in a church rather than a SOTN speech here. Then the failed 100 day targets helped confirm the sorry state of the State we were really in.
        
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        February 3, 2018 4:53pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      So criminal behaviour against a President is OK as long as he is unpopular enough ?
      
      Strange ethics you seem to have.
      
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      February 3, 2018 2:12pm
  - Manolo
    
    Just look at our Muslim resident, stephieboy. 🙂
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:26am
    - softail 1450
      
      manolo, where is streppieboy he’s gone missing?
      
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      February 3, 2018 9:35am
      - Inandout
        
        He is in a huddle at the Mt Roskill mosque with the imam discussing Trump and the memo. He will again surface when he has been reprogrammed.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:45am
      - marcw
        
        He may have been reincarnated and sent back as Milhous – found the 70 or so virgins were less attractive than his camel and goats.
        
        Milhous is certainly as intellectually ‘special’.
        
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        February 3, 2018 10:19am
- Digmen1
  
  Yes I am really surprised that Trump does not make more of the Clintons and their corruption and lies.
  
  Drain the swamp!
  In his SOTU he mentioned that they are firing state workers who do not perform and work for America first!
  
  I erally hope that his approval rates start to go up!
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:34am
  - Inandout
    
    Well Trump’s speech got good approval ratings and I think we shall see more memos released soon. The US gender bender screamers seem to be getting less publicity now. Don’t they ever smile?
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:48am
  - cmm
    
    “Yes I am really surprised that Trump does not make more of the Clintons and their corruption and lies.”
    
    Why rush it? Let even more crap come out first.
    
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    February 3, 2018 3:55pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Not really Digmen1 since it was a SOTU address where the voters get the real story and not the fake version. Remember his thrust is MAGA and while the Democrats get more coverage by the MSM they too are struggling to cover up their sorry state or SOTDP.
    
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    February 3, 2018 4:59pm
- Ross12
  
  Simon
  The real master stroke was not firing Mueller because had that happened then quite probably none of this would have seen daylight.
  Trump has known since soon after the election that he was spied on. Admiral Rodgers went to him to have a “chat” at Trump Tower. The next the whole Trump team moved “office” to another location. Comey &co immediately pushed for Rodgers to be sacked. Join the dots.
  ( Rodgers had been doing an audit within the NSA for months prior to that)
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:42am
- stephieboy
  
  Simon , which Trump Tent Crusade did you attend last night ?
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:59am
  - VicParking
    
    Stephie which goat tent did you visit last night ??
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:56am
- NK
  
  What gibberish nonsense. Treating a partisan memo as gospel truth shows people up as sheep following shepherds, devoid of original thought.
  
  How can anyone who values the constitutional protections in the USA possibly condone this political attack on the FBI. When Helen Clark treated Peter Doone in a similar manner the political Right were apoplectic.
  
  Fucken hypocrites.
  
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  February 3, 2018 11:22am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    I always love it when Clinton Crime Family supporters heads explode. Have a wee lie down mate.
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:48am
    - Milhous
      
      I love it when deluded Trumpophants think that anyone who doesn’t hump Trumps leg like a randy puppy is pro Clinton.
      
      There head explodes when they can’t compute that we just dislike tacky, narcissistic, illiterate, unstable mendacious frauds.
      
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      February 3, 2018 12:03pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Their, their, their Milhous
        
        Itsa notso bad
        Itsa nica place
        DATS MY MUMMA!
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacWGBJ_cs
        
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        February 3, 2018 12:29pm
    - NK
      
      I’m an Act voter, Act candidate and been a member for 21 years. You have no clue. Wake up and see what Trump is trying to do: Remove anyone that dares challenge him or threatens him. The only difference between Kim Jong Un and Trump is Trump hasn’t yet assassinated an opponent.
      
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      February 3, 2018 12:56pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Unlike Hillary
        
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        February 3, 2018 1:17pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        Unlike Hillary
        
        Which Hillary are you talking about? Ours or theirs?
        
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        February 3, 2018 1:36pm
      - oob
        
        Unlike Hillary
        
        “Look a squirrel!”
        
        Straight out of ztev‘s playbook there, AgentBallSack. Ignorant Trump-supporting fucktards like you give the rest of us on the Right a bad name and it’s no coincidence you use the same misdirection technique as the far-Left.
        
        Like them, that is the calibre of your rhetoric.
        
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        February 3, 2018 3:10pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Fuck up oob. You’re no Trump supporter. Let’s see the calibre of your rhetoric.
        
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        February 3, 2018 4:01pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Ignorant Trump-supporting fucktards like you give the rest of us on the Right a bad name and it’s no coincidence you use the same misdirection technique as the far-Left.
        
        Feel free to have the floor and say something smart, fuckwad. You mighty bastion of Alt-White intelligence! Your 300 odd comments so far haven’t show your intelligence yet but there must be something there other than ad hominems, you greasy little fuck.
        We’re waiting…..
        
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        February 3, 2018 4:15pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        I’m an Act voter, Act candidate and been a member for 21 years.
        
        Your comments are a good pointer to why Act is fucked if that’s where your head is at. It doesn’t matter if Trump is using this for his own purposes, was up to his neck jelly wrestling in Putin’s personal whore house, was on the take or is an axe murderer, it has nothing to do with the conduct of senior FBI and DOJ personnel. You don’t have to be a Trump cheerleader to see that this is an appalling business and the issue here relates, as a bare minimum, to senior government officials exercising draconian powers contrary to their obligations and withholding material information relevant to the FISA application. In essence, lying to a Federal judge by omission at least. Beyond that, there are clear signals of collusion between FBI, DOJ and the
        clinton machine and even in the absence of collusion, very serious conflicts of interest on the part of FBI and DOJ as a consequence of relationships and work performed for the Clinton machine by the spouses of Ohr and McCabe.
        
        As for describing this as a partisan document, it records events. The closest it goes to partisanship is the use of the words “troubling breakdown” in reference to the non-compliance with legal process by DOJ and FBI. In fact, IMO, that substantially understates what appears to have occurred.
        
        If your rather blasé view of this matter is that it is nothing more than an exercise in Trump furthering his own interests, then you don’t deserve to get into government and I sincerely hope you never do.
        
        Your casual indifference to propriety is no different to that of Turei justifying benefit fraud, Clarke changing the law to justify the theft of taxpayer money, or Peters being perfectly at ease over the Vela business, the Glen business and the $158,000, or the Philip Field caper and the Daljit Singh electoral fraud. Nice company you keep.
        
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        February 3, 2018 5:04pm
      - NK
        
        I agree with oob. Commenters such as Da Vinci mode give all the ammunition the left need against us. It was actually the GOP that started black ops on Trump, not the DNC. Nunes memo is not a legal opinion, nor is it a legal judgement. Him, and the GOP majority on the committee, have no legal authority to state as a fact the FISA application was illegal. They’re just political statements.
        
        I feel sad that politics is now so partisan that supposedly intelligent people can’t see that and just take their side without objective and sensible thoughts.
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:10pm
      - oob
        
        oob wrote: Ignorant Trump-supporting fucktards like you give the rest of us on the Right a bad name
        …
        AgentBallSack wrote: Fuck up oob. You’re no Trump supporter.
        
        AgentBallSack is a very stable genius.
        
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        February 4, 2018 4:13pm
Manolo

Is he another sexually-repressed Muslim?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/31/oxford-professor-tariq-ramadan-taken-into-custody-by-french-police

The prominent Swiss academic Tariq Ramadan, a professor of contemporary Islamic studies at the University of Oxford, has been taken into custody by French police following accusations of rape.

A judicial source confirmed to Reuters that Ramadan was taken into custody on Wednesday. A preliminary investigation was opened after two women filed police complaints against him late last year, accusing him of rape.
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February 3, 2018 9:34am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’ve had my eye on this story for a few months..
  
  Interesting how it is women from a Muslim background that are the complainants.
  
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  February 3, 2018 12:02pm
  - stephieboy
    
    MW ,can we say much like these complainants were all non Muslim ? ,
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/nov/30/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-full-list
    
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    February 3, 2018 12:47pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      You can say what you like stephieboy.
      
      Please don’t ever include me amongst your “we”.
      
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      February 3, 2018 12:54pm
  - Twinkletoes
    
    He has been a real ladies man from way back. Outstandingly handsome and very charasmatic I would think all his romances with non muslim females would have been consensual.
    
    Interesting to note that his grandfather,Hassan al Bana, was the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood who thought that even Islamic morals were too lax.
    
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    February 3, 2018 1:53pm
VicParking

Lizzie Marvelly came out with some wise words in the failing newspaper today, although they contained on little typo.
“I can only speak for myself. I can no more speak for Māori than I can speak for Pākehā”
Lizzie ‘can’ and ‘only’ should have been replaced with ‘can’t ‘
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February 3, 2018 9:45am
igm

Have been drawing comparisons between Crockery, her effeminate boyfriend, and the average Labour supporter. They are not dissimilar: leech a living off taxpayers, live in sin, produce bastards, and tell lies. Bet queenie does not give these embarrassments the same treatment as the Keys.
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February 3, 2018 9:46am
Monique Watson

I got the link Jibber. What a Cucksucker
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February 3, 2018 9:49am
cas

If Cindy ( name she hates apparently ) looked like Nanaia or Megan would we be free from this rock star rubbish?
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February 3, 2018 9:52am
- KKKKatee
  
  Absolutely. But, but, but – the nieces called her Aunty Cinda – she likes Cinda better then.
  The MSM would like us to think we have our own bit of royalty. Gives them something to write about….
  How bloody shallow……
  I’d like the MSM get stuck in and critique her cockups – not completely ignore the fact that she twists things to suit her own agenda…..
  Or that her Ministers are very incompetent…..
  And that the first 100 days has achieved diddly squat so far……
  They should be watching her like a hawk..
  Making sure she walks the talk…….
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:45am
- niggly
  
  Actually her proper name is “Jacinta” …. but because she pronounces her “t’s” as “d’s” she’s given up on correct pronunciation and now just goes along with “Jacinda”! 😉
  
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  February 3, 2018 11:31am
  - igm
    
    Who cares a shit about the ugly horse-faced maggot?
    
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    February 3, 2018 1:20pm
    - cas
      
      Posted without comment in case anyone needs and early drink.
      https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/lifestyle/career/jacinda-ardern-on-her-groundbreaking-first-few-months-as-pm-36272
      And I see she is on the cover of the latest Aus Women’s weekly accompanied by some outfits which might get more approval from KKKKatee
      
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      February 3, 2018 2:21pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        “Jacinda Adern: Everything we ~~wanted~~ didn’t need to know.” Barff.
        
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        February 3, 2018 4:35pm
      - KKKKatee
        
        I simply refuse to buy a mag with the PM’s face plastered on the cover so, therefore, I am unable to critique whatever it is she is wearing. Sorry to disappoint.
        
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        February 3, 2018 9:03pm
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Religious news:

The Child-Rape Assembly Line

Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat down with me to explain what he described as a “child-rape assembly line” among sects of fundamentalist Jews.

On a visit to Jerusalem in 2005, Rabbi Rosenberg entered into a mikvah in one of the holiest neighborhoods in the city, Mea She’arim. “I opened a door that entered into a schvitz,” he told me. “Vapors everywhere, I can barely see. My eyes adjust, and I see an old man, my age, long white beard, a holy-looking man, sitting in the vapors. On his lap, facing away from him, is a boy, maybe seven years old. And the old man is having anal sex with this boy.”

Rabbi Rosenberg paused, gathered himself, and went on: “This boy was speared on the man like an animal, like a pig, and the boy was saying nothing. But on his face—fear. The old man [looked at me] without any fear, as if this was common practice.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11

[Don’t forget to down tick if you support child rape and are an anti Semite hating on Rabbi Rosenburg.]
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February 3, 2018 9:59am
- realityczech
  
  Rabbi Rosenberg believes around half of young males in Brooklyn’s Hasidic community—the largest in the United States and one of the largest in the world—have been victims of sexual assault perpetrated by their elders.
  
  Ben Hirsch, director of Survivors for Justice, a Brooklyn organization that advocates for Orthodox sex abuse victims, thinks the real number is higher. “From anecdotal evidence, we’re looking at over 50 percent. It has almost become a rite of passage.”
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:07am
- realityczech
  
  The pedophiles are out in force this morning lurking in the shadows, as pedophiles do.
  
  Not one person has stepped forward to condemn this atrocity. Maybe they are just anti Semites and reject the expose because a Rabbi spoke out?
  
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  February 3, 2018 12:26pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  [Don’t forget to down tick if you support child rape and are an anti Semite hating on Rabbi Rosenburg.]
  
  Why do you employ the technique much favoured by Morrissey?
  
  There are many reasons why someone might down tick…
  (I have listed some reasons previously, in response to a Morrissey posting).
  
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  February 3, 2018 3:11pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Maggy, See my post below that caused him to start calling me a pedophile and child abuse enabler
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/general_debate_3_february_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2130141
    
    It was to do with being called out for his use of the “false cause” effect.
    
    Non causa pro causa: (literally “no cause for a cause”) in general, the fallacy of making a mistake about the ascription of some cause to an effect. This is the general category of “false cause.”
    
    For that I got subjected to 10 posts accusing me of covering for and condoning child abusers.
    
    http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/cause.html
    
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    February 3, 2018 3:20pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yes, it is very disappointing seeing realityczech reduced to employing stephieboy and morrissey-type techniques.
      
      Why attack good people who have never supported harm of children/youth?
      RC devalues his arguments and ultimately those individuals who are fighting against sexual exploitation.
      
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      February 3, 2018 3:59pm
      - realityczech
        
        Maggy first read the article before opening your gob.
        
        The Rabbi makes it very clear that the biggest problem with addressing this issue is people behaving just like the pervert Agent.
        
        He has failed to condemn the rape of kids and has instead attacked the messenger and lied, created strawmen etc. He is a pervert.
        
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        February 3, 2018 5:17pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        The Rabbi makes it very clear that the biggest problem with addressing this issue is people behaving just like the pervert Agent.
        
        He has failed to condemn the rape of kids and has instead attacked the messenger and lied, created strawmen etc. He is a pervert
        
        DPF please screenshot these posts and prepare to have them available for law enforcement. I am not going to accept this sort of slander, this is actionable in a court and I will be pursuing it. I have my own records but as blog host you are required to keep a record, and submit the offending persons details to law enforcement.
        
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        February 3, 2018 5:39pm
      - cha
        
        I am not going to accept this sort of slander, this is actionable in a court and I will be pursuing it.
        
        Can hardly wait.
        
        edit:
        
        as blog host you are required to
        
        Says who?
        
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        February 3, 2018 5:44pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Excuse me cha but fuck off or I will include you in it.
        
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        February 3, 2018 5:56pm
      - cha
        
        Excuse me cha but fuck off or I will include you in it.
        
        For laughing at you, ya delusional fuckwit – yes please.
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:00pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        I will be laying a complaint under the online harmful digital communications act against both Cha and realityczech.
        
        Thanks cha, realityczech.
        
        WHAT ARE ‘HARMFUL DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS’?
        
        Harmful digital communications can take many different forms. They can be private messages or content that others can see. They include when someone uses the internet, email, apps, social media or mobile phones to send or publish threatening or offensive material and messages, spread damaging or degrading rumours and publish online invasive or distressing photographs or videos.
        
        A digital communication may be deemed harmful if it:
        
        Is directed at an individual; and
        Makes that person seriously emotionally distressed; and
        It has or could seriously breach of one or more of the 10 communication principles in the Act.
        THE 10 COMMUNICATION PRINCIPLES
        
        The 10 principles say that a digital communication should not:
        
        disclose sensitive personal facts about a person;
        be threatening, intimidating, or menacing;
        be grossly offensive;
        be indecent or obscene;
        be used to harass a person;
        make a false allegation;
        breach confidences;
        incite or encourage anyone to send a deliberately harmful message;
        incite or encourage a person to commit suicide; and
        denigrate a person’s colour, race, ethnic or national origins, religion, gender, sexual orientation or disability.
        
        DPF please note you are now required to save all their communications towards me by law and I will be laying a formal complaint to the police on Monday regarding the allegations I am a pedophile and that I condone pedophilia. Thanks
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:08pm
      - realityczech
        
        Agent, well first you will need to reveal your true identity for that to be the case. Not so sure about your threats of violence – which are more clearly covered under the Crimes Act.
        
        This is actually great because we are seeing (in you) the very issues the Rabbi has faced. You are a text book case of what happens when someone speaks out against abuse in a religious group. A real time real life example.
        
        You really need to read the article before commenting. It is all in there.
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:23pm
    - realityczech
      
      The rantings of a coward and a pervert enabler continue on. He is really losing it now he is outed. All because I shared a story about a brave Rabbi trying to stop kids being raped. Sick stuff.
      
      “DPF please screenshot these posts and prepare to have them available for law enforcement. I am not going to accept this sort of slander, this is actionable in a court and I will be pursuing it.”
      
      “Name a time and place and have an ambulance ready to drag your smashed up body away RC.
      
      I will fucking destroy you for what you have just said about me. MAN UP CUNT NAME THE PLACE AND TIME”
      
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      February 3, 2018 5:44pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Yes I have all the screen shots so I do know what was said. Including your little description of under aged boys being raped. Let’s see what publishing that brings. Copying and disseminating child porn.
        And you call me the pervert.
        
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        February 3, 2018 5:54pm
      - cha
        
        Yes I have all the screen shots
        
        Oh, so you’re copying and disseminating, too.
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:02pm
      - realityczech
        
        “Including your little description of under aged boys being raped.”
        
        More lies. I made no description. It was the eyewitness account of the Rabbi in the article. That is crystal clear. Links, quotes, everything was there. Did you even read it?
        
        You lying sleaze bag. You really do have something to hide I think.
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:05pm
      - realityczech
        
        So using Agents logic, reporting on a crime is the crime, not the crime it’s self (which he has not condemned btw)
        
        Clearly this has really hit a nerve with this anonymous poster. Most decent people would have condemned the rape of children and moved on. Not fabricated elaborate diversions and attacked the messenger.
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:14pm
    - realityczech
      
      No Agent more lies.
      
      I posted an article about a Rabbi trying to stop this in his religious group, with the help of others in the community. He had witnessed it first hand.
      
      I made no comment other than to condemn ALL pedos regardless of religion, including atheists.
      
      Your response was to immediately run a diversion strawman demanding sources and implying the figures given by the Rabbi were mine and attempting to divert from the offending. You lied.
      
      Ironically this is exactly what the Rabbi and his supporters have faced and he says so in the article.
      
      If this is not enabling pedos what is? They can only exist because of people like you attacking those who expose it. The Rabbi is clear about that. This is a common theme with religious groups.
      
      Interestingly you have been totally silent while others say all Muslims are rapist pedos.
      
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      February 3, 2018 5:53pm
    - realityczech
      
      “Maggy, See my post below that caused him to start calling me a pedophile and child abuse enabler”
      
      No I called you an enabler not a pedo. Your post starts with a false claim in saying that “I” made various claims with no source.
      
      In fact it was a first hand account from a Rabbi and I made no claim at all. Classic strawman tactic of an enabler.
      
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      February 3, 2018 5:57pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        WHAT ARE ‘HARMFUL DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS’?
        
        Harmful digital communications can take many different forms. They can be private messages or content that others can see. They include when someone uses the internet, email, apps, social media or mobile phones to send or publish threatening or offensive material and messages, spread damaging or degrading rumours and publish online invasive or distressing photographs or videos.
        
        A digital communication may be deemed harmful if it:
        
        Is directed at an individual; and
        Makes that person seriously emotionally distressed; and
        It has or could seriously breach of one or more of the 10 communication principles in the Act.
        THE 10 COMMUNICATION PRINCIPLES
        
        The 10 principles say that a digital communication should not:
        
        disclose sensitive personal facts about a person;
        be threatening, intimidating, or menacing;
        be grossly offensive;
        be indecent or obscene;
        be used to harass a person;
        make a false allegation;
        breach confidences;
        incite or encourage anyone to send a deliberately harmful message;
        incite or encourage a person to commit suicide; and
        denigrate a person’s colour, race, ethnic or national origins, religion, gender, sexual orientation or disability.
        
        DPF please note you are now required to save all their communications towards me by law and I will be laying a formal complaint to the police on Monday regarding the allegations I am a pedophile and that I condone pedophilia. Thanks
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:18pm
      - realityczech
        
        DPF please note you are now required to save all their communications towards me by law and I will be laying a formal complaint to the police on Monday regarding the allegations I am a pedophile and that I condone pedophilia. Thanks
        
        LOL 🙂
        
        So your real identity is AgentBallSack and your real job is as an internet troll? Cause you will need to satisfy those criteria first.
        
        You seem like a man with something to hide. Your reaction is not normal.
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:29pm
DifferentPerspective

Muslims helping boost sales of modern chastity belts – socialism successes

This is so priceless! Merkel’s muslim invasion is creating new and vibrant business opportunities in Germany!

A new stylish clothing line of anti-rape shorts (pc-speak for “chastity belts”) is taking off in Germany. Of course, there is no mention of the the ethnicity of the “three men who attacked” the designer of the shorts (just like the great Fawlty Towers episode where Cleese kept on telling everyone to not “mention the war”).

If the Greens get their wish for massive increases to the refugee quota – it shouldn’t be long before these are on sale in NZ.

Maybe Rose McGowan can be the agent for the Hollywood franchise.
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February 3, 2018 10:02am
- realityczech
  
  “Muslims helping boost sales of modern chastity belts – socialism successes”
  
  Maybe Jewish boys can use them to stop being raped by Rabbis, as over 50% are currently.
  
  Enough from me, read what Rabbi Rosenburg has to say about the homosexual rape of young boys by Jews.
  
  https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:15am
  - Inandout
    
    Nothing like that goes on among the goat bangers? Look further into Muslim pedos.
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:23am
    - realityczech
      
      Inandout, that is the difference between you and me. I condemn ALL the pedos regardless of their faith. While you attempt to minimise and distract from the crimes of many pedos, because of your bigotry.
      
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      February 3, 2018 10:32am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        You’re starting to sound a lot like our resident peeper and creeper Morrissey RC.
        
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        February 3, 2018 11:39am
      - realityczech
        
        Agent care to share your reasons for passionately defending the [deleted by DPF]
        
        Maybe you can write to Rabbi Rosenburg expressing your concerns?
        
        [DPF: Totally unacceptable comment and you are now suspended from posting]
        
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        February 3, 2018 12:23pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        “…passionately defending the systematic homosexual rape of little boys”
        
        Yeah, nah that’s not my bag man.
        
        Claiming 50% of Hasidic Jews are sexually molested as boys with no source to back it up? I get you’re excited about it but report it with some truthfulness and clarity. Assuming you will get downticks because we’re all covering up for pedophiles?
        
        That’s some next level false cause fuckery.
        
        http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/cause.html
        
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        February 3, 2018 12:38pm
      - realityczech
        
        Agent, I claimed nothing. The Rabbi, and other religious Jews investigating this, made that claim. That is crystal clear in the article and my quote. You are covering for pedophiles.
        
        I note you can not bring yourself to simply condemn the rape of little boys and are busy trying to create diversions with lies and strawmen.
        
        Tells me all I need to know about you.
        
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        February 3, 2018 12:42pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It’s not only boys that are being raped in ultra-orthodox Jewish establishments.
    
    Haven’t you been following the story about the ex-Principal of the Adass Girl’s school in Melbourne?
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-30/victims-devastated-israeli-principal-leifa-evades-extradition/9376112
    
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    February 3, 2018 12:16pm
    - realityczech
      
      Maggy, there have been a number of such scandals around the world, largely ignored by the media.
      
      A common factor is the terrible persecution of anyone that speaks out. The Jews are very tribal and breaking ranks is a major sin.
      
      A few brave Rabbis are stepping up and trying to address the problem, but you only have to read KB to see what those brave Rabbi’s are up against.
      
      This was the same issue with the Catholic Church. People put saving face of the religion before the welfare of the victims.
      
      Those who fail to condemn it and run diversion comments here are the ones who allow the rape of children. They are beneath contempt.
      
      I condemn ALL child rape: Hindu, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Buddhists, Atheists. All. They do not. But you can see that for yourself with pedo enablers like the Agent ^^^
      
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      February 3, 2018 12:49pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Thats a disgusting unfounded slur against me. I have taken action against the comments you have made against me with no proof whatsoever. Fuck you RC.
        
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        February 3, 2018 1:33pm
      - realityczech
        
        The proof is right above.
        
        Still no condemnation against the pedophile just slurs against me and the Rabbi.
        
        You are a pedophile enabler and you have now removed all doubt.
        
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        February 3, 2018 1:46pm
      - realityczech
        
        The Agents lies to run cover for pedophiles:
        
        AgentBallSack
        “Claiming 50% of Hasidic Jews are sexually molested as boys with no source to back it up? “
        
        In response to this comment and “source”:
        
        Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat down with me to explain what he described as a “child-rape assembly line” among sects of fundamentalist Jews.
        
        On a visit to Jerusalem in 2005, Rabbi Rosenberg entered into a mikvah in one of the holiest neighborhoods in the city, Mea She’arim. “I opened a door that entered into a schvitz,” he told me. “Vapors everywhere, I can barely see. My eyes adjust, and I see an old man, my age, long white beard, a holy-looking man, sitting in the vapors. On his lap, facing away from him, is a boy, maybe seven years old. And the old man is having anal sex with this boy.”
        
        Rabbi Rosenberg paused, gathered himself, and went on: “This boy was speared on the man like an animal, like a pig, and the boy was saying nothing. But on his face—fear. The old man [looked at me] without any fear, as if this was common practice.
        https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11
        
        If telling lies, attacking the messenger and creating strawman diversions, is not enabling pedophiles, then what is? People like that can only get away with it because of people like the Agent.
        
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        February 3, 2018 1:56pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        I challenge you to come and say these words to my face. I live in Wellington and I will smash your fucking teeth in for saying I am in anyway involved in pedophilia. Come meet me tomorrow and put your money where your mouth is you spineless fucking cunt. Name a time and place and have an ambulance ready to drag your smashed up body away RC.
        
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        February 3, 2018 2:02pm
      - realityczech
        
        Now the Agent is threatening violence against people who speak out against pedophiles ❗
        
        Incredible stuff and still not a single word of condemnation about the systemic rape of little boys.
        
        People get banned for threatening violence against others on this blog, it will be interesting to see if this zionist pedo enabler gets the same treatment, though I will not report him. I want him exposed for all to see.
        
        I did not say you are a pedophile. I simply don’t know. I am pointing to the fact people like you running diversions and attacking those who speak out, enable it to go on.
        
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        February 3, 2018 2:13pm
      - realityczech
        
        More on how pedophile enablers work, from Rabbi Rosenburg who has seen this first hand:
        
        “the horrors Rabbi Rosenberg is exposing. Like the Catholic establishment, the rabbinate seeks to cover up the crimes, quiet the victims, protect the abusers, and deflect potential criticism of their institutional practices. Those who speak out are vilified, and the faithful learn to shut their mouths.
        ”
        https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11
        
        We are seeing this here today, though at least the Agent has crawled out of the shadows, unlike his fellow travelers. Creepy to think these people are all around us and our kids! They will not speak out if our kids are abused simply because of the religion of the abuser. Repugnant but clearly true.
        
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        February 3, 2018 2:23pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        You’re a spineless insipid cunt making accusations on a blog against me of covering up, justifying and enabling pedophilia, so man the fuck up and come and put these accusations to my face you fucking arsehole. I am not shitting you, I will fucking destroy you for what you have just said about me. MAN UP CUNT NAME THE PLACE AND TIME
        
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        February 3, 2018 2:23pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Agentballsack
        
        I am currently laid up in hospital here in Auckland after my latest round of chemo went a bit pear shaped (but am still kicking cancer’s arse ?), but nonetheless I am prepared to check myself out immediately, and take the flight down to Wellington at my own expense as I would consider it of enormous personal therapeutic benefit, and a public service of immense importance if you were to accept my humble offer to be your “second” for the “pistols at dawn” showdown. Given that realityczech is unlikely to have a friend, I am happy to hold his hat too while you obtain satisfaction! ?
        
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        February 3, 2018 2:27pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        @ agentballsack
        
        Ignore the ramblings of a rather disturbed poster here. He is far too much a coward to man up and face you. I would be writing to DPF to request a strike for the offence. If he accused me of supporting paedophilia, I would also be very angry, but then the only person who knows who I am is DPF. I suppose the best way is to realise that your nom de plume does not exist as a real person, and it is only the nom de plume that has been offended. The real you can’t be touched.
        
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        February 3, 2018 3:04pm
      - cmm
        
        Ballsack: The only way to take this obnoxious attack is as a badge of honour.
        
        BS: Wear rubber gloves so you don’t have to touch the sod.
        
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        February 3, 2018 4:03pm
      - Harriet
        
        RC – if you haven’t worked out by now that pedos hide within institutions, schools, clubs etc. where children are accessible to abuse then there is no hope for you. The RC church, Jewish establishments, sporting clubs etc. aren’t in the business of providing kids for rape. Deviants are deviants and they will do and say anything to practise their deviancy and by hiding it within large institutions makes it appear systematic once it is found out. There is no ‘system of abuse’ in any organisation.
        
        And talking about enablers of sexual abuse – stop supporting the gay community at it is them who are trying to normalize sex and deviant behaviour in the minds of children. Just look at the Safe schools nonsense in Aussie which was promoted as an anti-bullying measure until one of the promoters was caught telling people that it is really about normalizing and promoting deviancy to children with the power of the state enforcing it. The gay community does support it as they don’t speak out against it, it is they who are largely at fault where ‘enabling’ is concerned.
        
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        February 3, 2018 4:57pm
      - realityczech
        
        ” I am not shitting you, I will fucking destroy you for what you have just said about me. MAN UP CUNT NAME THE PLACE AND TIME”
        
        You are a cowardly predator and a pervert. You won’t destroy me, or hopefully any little boys. You are a sick fuck and I will don’t give a shit if you run to DPF. I don’t look for approval from those that try and create cover for child rapists. I scrub better than you out of my toilet bowl little man.
        
        It is ironic that the Rabbi talks at length about people like you in the article.
        
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        February 3, 2018 5:21pm
      - realityczech
        
        Oh look the pedo enablers are sticking together, just like the Rabbi said. Not a single one even pretending to condemn the crimes, just attacking the messenger. Just like the Rabbi said they do.
        
        Because of people like you lot this child rapist was totally unconcerned.
        
        Over to the Rabbi:
        
        My eyes adjust, and I see an old man, my age, long white beard, a holy-looking man, sitting in the vapors. On his lap, facing away from him, is a boy, maybe seven years old. And the old man is having anal sex with this boy.”
        
        Rabbi Rosenberg paused, gathered himself, and went on: “This boy was speared on the man like an animal, like a pig, and the boy was saying nothing. But on his face—fear. The old man [looked at me] without any fear, as if this was common practice. He didn’t stop. I was so angry, I confronted him. He removed the boy from his penis, and I took the boy aside. I told this man, ‘It’s a sin before God, a mishkovzucher. What are you doing to this boy’s soul? You’re destroying this boy!’ He had a sponge on a stick to clean his back, and he hit me across the face with it. ‘How dare you interrupt me!’ he said. I had heard of these things for a long time, but now I had seen.”
        
        https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11
        
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        February 3, 2018 5:31pm
Harriet

There’s no need to replace Bill English with a female leader as a male choice will fair just as well against a pregnant PM.

The truth is that Trump ran hard against a frail old female and won, and besides, like Jacinda, Judith and Paula will waddle about parliament also! 😎
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Manolo

It did not take long to happen in Trudeau’s Canada:
http://debatepost.com/2018/02/02/trudeaus-refugees-receiving-full-benefits-free-food-and-housing-demand-more-and-complain-daily/
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February 3, 2018 10:12am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Lovely, just lovely.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:21am
- Inandout
  
  Couldn’t happen to a nicer boy.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:31am
- Rich Prick
  
  It’s the middle of winter and a complete mystery as to why the hotel doesn’t just throw them out onto the streets.
  
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  February 3, 2018 4:44pm
DifferentPerspective

Grid-girls complain about feminazis

Grid-girls around the world are complaining about the feminazis who have put them out of work.

Madness! This is what feminism does – all their nonsense ends up victimising women. This is all that extremists are good for, making one segment of society after another miserable.

So currently feminists have alienated:
– women who like their husbands (they don’t agree that “all men are pigs”)
– women who have sons (same re “all men are pigs”)
– sportswomen (trans-men can dominate your sport now)
– pretty women
– french women (after all they’re all like that slut Catherine deneuve who disagreed with the #MeToo inquisition)

So what women are left to take part in the feminist movement? Sporty, pretty, married with kids – they’re all alienated so it’s just; fat, ugly, spinster unbreedable types left.
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February 3, 2018 10:26am
- Harriet
  
  Grid girls?
  
  Car enthusiasts prefer trannys. 😎
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:32am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Only if they’re Holden fans mate
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:47am
  - marcw
    
    Especially Hewland trannys!
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:11am
- realityczech
  
  Women are herd creatures and treat anyone who breaks rank like shit. Women are bullied and shamed by feminist zealots.
  
  To trully liberate women we need to stand up for those who won’t follow the herd.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:49am
  - MCos
    
    ‘Women are herd creatures’
    That’ll go down really well with no women, or men, that I know.
    Nevertheless who am I to comment on the company other people keep.
    
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    February 3, 2018 11:02am
    - realityczech
      
      “no women, or men, that I know.”
      
      There is your problem Soyboy.
      
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      February 3, 2018 12:34pm
      - sam green
        
        Jeez you’re a wanker Kea.
        
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        February 3, 2018 4:01pm
      - realityczech
        
        spam, Paul Joseph Watson made an hilarious video about you.
        The Truth About Soy Boys
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTSvLKY7HEk
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:01pm
      - sam green
        
        Doesn’t stop you being a wanker. ?????
        Paul JW is a kind of inadequate man. Really – you reference him? Sad for you.
        
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        February 4, 2018 1:00am
- Longknives
  
  The ‘Glitter Girl’ movement/thing (remember that?) was all about teaching your Daughters that it’s great to wander around topless and flash your tits to thousands of strangers.
  But scantily-clad Grid Girls must be banned because they’re Sexist or something?
  
  The World is a very fucked up place right now….
  
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  February 3, 2018 11:34am
  - MH
    
    If only they could be redeployed welcoming in the latest bunch of male refugees.
    
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    February 3, 2018 12:00pm
AgentBallSack

The feminazis start destroying themselves:

McGowan was at the Barnes & Noble in Union Square promoting her new memoir, Brave. The evening started off typically enough, with McGowan answering pre-submitted questions from audience members, but the intensity dialed up fast when a trans woman interjected to see if the actress and activist had any comment on controversial remarks she’s made about trans women in the past.

“I have a suggestion. Talk about what you said on RuPaul. Trans women are dying and you said that we, as trans women, are not like regular women. We get raped more often. We go through domestic violence more often. There was a trans woman killed here a few blocks [away]. I have been followed home —.”
McGowan cut her off and responded:

“Hold on. So am I. We are the same. My point was, we are the same. There’s an entire show called ID channel, a network, dedicated to women getting abused, murdered, sexualized, violated, and you’re a part of that, too, sister. It’s the same,” McGowan retorted.
To which the trans woman asked:

“You do nothing for them. Trans women are in men’s prisons. And what have you done for them?”
It then apparently devolved into cross-shouting, with the trans woman being escorted out by security while chanting “white cis feminism,” and McGowan breaking into a monologue. “Don’t label me, sister,” she reportedly said. “Don’t put your labels on me. Don’t you fucking do that. Do not put your labels on me. I don’t come from your planet. Leave me alone. I do not subscribe to your rules. I do not subscribe to your language. You will not put labels on me or anybody. Step the fuck back. What I do for the fucking world and you should be fucking grateful. Shut the fuck up. Get off my back. What have you done? I know what I’ve done, Goddammit.”

People in attendance for the event started saying things like “We love you, Rose” to settle her down, but McGowan wasn’t done. “I’m not crying; I’m fucking mad with the lies,” she said. “I’m mad that you put shit on me because I have a fucking vagina and I’m white or I’m black or I’m yellow or I’m purple. Fuck off. All of us want to say it. I just do.”

And then she yelled about the truth:

“And you can label this thing as a breakdown. That, motherfuckers, is a breakdown. Maybe not for me, but for you. I might have information you want. I might know shit that you don’t. So fucking shut up. Please systemically. For once. In the world. You know what I’m talking about. Just tell the God damned truth. Stop boxing everybody into shit. I didn’t agree to your cis fucking world. Ok? Fuck off.”
And then she yelled about some other topics:

“Trans women are women and what I’ve been trying to say is that it’s the same. The stats are not that dissimilar. When you break it down, it is a much smaller population. There’s not a network here devoted to your fucking death. There’s not advertisers advertising tampons with a camera lovingly going up a girl’s body as she’s being lovingly raped and strangled. Piss off. And until you can collect that fucking check, back up. My name is Rose McGowan and I am obviously fucking brave.”

True to form Rose has been attacked on Twitter by lefties for daring speak like that to a transwoman.

Pass the fucking popcorn!
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February 3, 2018 10:46am
- Longknives
  
  Rose McGowan is a fucking trainwreck.
  She has had drug problems for years.
  
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  February 3, 2018 11:30am
  - Morrissey
    
    Who has the brighter future: Rose McGowan or Harvey W. Einstein?
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:28pm
Digmen1

See how China handles muslims!

http://debatepost.com/2017/09/13/china-forces-imams-to-dance-in-the-street-and-swear-that-they-will-not-teach-religion-to-children/
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February 3, 2018 10:54am
- stephieboy
  
  Digmen1, whilst Christians resort to underground churches ,
  
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-35900242
  
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  February 3, 2018 11:00am
- Inandout
  
  Excellent, only in China.
  
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  February 3, 2018 11:06am
  - VicParking
    
    For now
    
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    February 3, 2018 12:05pm
- realityczech
  
  “See how China handles muslims!”
  
  What next?: See how Germany handles Jews.
  
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  February 3, 2018 12:35pm
flipper

For the benefit of mush brains like Milhous, zetev, Morrissey, stupidboy, and even some normally sane folk, Alan Dershowitz is Emeritus Professor Law at Harvard. He is an acknowledged authority in c0nstitutional law, and a l0ng time Democrat who says he campaigned for Obama and Clinton, so he is not a Trump or GOP shill.

As I previously posted above, Dershowitz recommends an independent commission to dispassionately investigate the matter – not a criminal investigation because there is no known criminal offence.

The Dersh explains his position in this excellent opinion contribution where his views are never distorted or abridged (he says):

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/02/alan-dershowitz-nunes-fisa-memo-deserves-more-investigation-time-for-nonpartisan-commission.html

Meantime in NZ the weaponisation of the Courts by Peters and his shills continues. Hager’s bullshit gave rise to the now well known KDS and the malaise known as Hagerism. It is a great pity than a person with obvious talent, and in a position to present fair and balanced views, is so bitter and twisted, and apparently consumed by misdirected animus, that he carries on a ridiculous campaign against W English and others, while now giving every indication that he and his are Peters shills.
Sad !!!!!!!!!!!!
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February 3, 2018 10:59am
- Milhous
  
  Could you point me to his opinion were he says that the FISA warrant was obtained illegally and there are FBI and DOJ officials that should be jailed????……as the swivel eyed loons believe.
  
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  February 3, 2018 11:54am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Milhous – derivation and meaning of “swivel eyed loon” please.
    Is it something off The Simpson’s?
    
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    February 3, 2018 12:35pm
    - Milhous
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/18/david-cameron-ally-activists-loons
      
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      February 3, 2018 3:13pm
- stephieboy
  
  flipper , its all over for the President and his fan base ,
  
  The Nunes Memo That Didn’t Meet the Hype
  
  If anything, it showed the Mueller investigation is on the right track.
  
  “To quote former FBI Director James Comey: That’s it? After an inexcusable buildup, House Republicans have released a memo purporting to show that the Department of Justice investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was tainted by partisanship. Instead, the memo reveals that the investigation is legitimate — and vitally necessary.
  
  The memo, released with the blessing of Speaker Paul Ryan and President Donald Trump but over the objections of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Justice Department, expresses “concerns” over government interactions with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which must approve any FBI effort to surveil U.S. citizens. It further raises the specter of a “troubling breakdown of legal processes” in the surveillance approval process.
  
  But, to quote Comey again, these claims are dishonest and misleading. They are also refuted by the memo itself…..”
  
  https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-02-02/nunes-memo-is-a-sad-partisan-hapless-effort
  
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  February 3, 2018 2:27pm
  - Inandout
    
    Clutching at straws again stephie, you flakes never give up trying to see the negative side of everything. If the FBI are favouring one political party they are breaking their oath; no argument. Bloomberg seems to be anti Trump-how unusual.
    
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    February 3, 2018 3:39pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Inandout , the FBI favour neither , Breaking their oath ? How ?
      
      Blloomberg anti Trump ?No less than Fox or Breitbart are pro Trump .
      
      At leas the former try to grapple with the facts before them . The latter do not .
      
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      February 3, 2018 3:46pm
      - Inandout
        
        If you watched Fox you would see actual Democrats debating the issues, almost always they lose the argument, but they are displayed.
        
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        February 3, 2018 3:56pm
kowtow

There’s an agenda story being pushed in the international MSM at the moment that infamous Argentinian association football cheat /star , Maradona, has been denied a visa to enter the US because he insulted the Prez. on Venezuelan tv.

Or is this fake news again and he’s not getting a visa due to his poor character as a drug abuser with a history of violence?
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February 3, 2018 11:07am
lifesgood

Oh my lord, just heard Kim Hill interviewing a man who supports rodeo events. Kim is NZ’s answer to Cathy Newman. I was pleased that the rodeo man held his own with her. It was so funny to hear her getting more and more exasperated when he outlined the facts. I think it’s high time Kim was put out to pasture herself.
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February 3, 2018 11:25am
- Inandout
  
  Pasture eh, couldn’t happen to a nicer chap.
  
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  February 3, 2018 11:43am
- AgentBallSack
  
  The current luvvies in Government:
  
  >Ban all rodeos it’s mean to animals (despite the fact that the animals are their livelihood and treated with respect)
  
  >Let’s give money to the private Racing Industry (despite the fact that more horses are destroyed each year than any other sport)
  
  Anyone else see the conflicting statements here?
  
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  February 3, 2018 11:45am
- emmess
  
  So what you are saying is that you believe Kim Hill should be stripped naked, put in a field, left to eat only grass and routinely ravaged by a stallion until she dies?
  #FakeNews
  
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  February 3, 2018 2:13pm
  - lifesgood
    
    LOL…a get your take on Cathy Newman…I don’t think anyone else does.
    
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    February 3, 2018 3:42pm
Notsofast

An interesting perspective on our place in the solar system can be inferred here. This looks a robust geological study to consider alongside other climate matters.
In the current world of science we will have hundreds of years notice for a deal like this, so we must support Jacinda Canute on climate change.

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-ice-age-human-witnessed-larger.html
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February 3, 2018 11:41am
MH

At the moment of birth Jaincinderator has arranged for Swarbrick to initiate white cannabis smoke to billow from the House of Parliament announcing the next leader of the Labradour Party, the Chosen one, first to be eliminated from poverty.. Who are the three wise women gathered under a wandering star ?
L0rdey ms clawdy ? And unto us….
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February 3, 2018 11:52am
realityczech

The one thing I hoped from the collection of socialist rabble, currently playing government, was some sensible cannabis laws, but they have even failed at that.

National are going to have their work cut out for them tidying up after these kids.
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February 3, 2018 12:39pm
Johnboy

You wait till the REAL PM takes over see how quickly he can sort out the laws for his corrupt racing mates! 🙂
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February 3, 2018 2:15pm
MrTips

I’m continually amazed at wot I read on here. From implications that James Shaw and Golly are very good friends shall we say, to someone significant to the govt being before the courts, how on earth does this either 1) not attract defamation or 2) not attract the MSM????

Stuff like this matters. Or is it Pandoras box? Considering other rumours about recent departures, one is inclined to suspect the box option.
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February 3, 2018 2:22pm
- Que Sera Sera
  
  Like you Mr Tips, I am also amazed at the low life comments on here.
  
  Some of the comments are so vile that I just wonder what sort of human being these people are.
  And they feed one another to even worse comments.
  And this is not confined only to males, some of the female comments are equally as bad.
  
  It can only be a matter of time before some low life gets his/her face before the courts.
  
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  February 3, 2018 4:09pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I sense it is out of frustration with the media’s #MeToo infatuation with Cindy and The Baby and all who caused her to be elevated much beyond her ability. If the media won’t examine these flawed characters, it’s only natural that the rest of us will.
  
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  February 3, 2018 4:52pm
  - Que Sera Sera
    
    Obviously not every one see it the way you do RP.
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:33pm
realityczech

Religion destroys morality. It is terrifying to see that we have these sort of people commenting regularly here on KB. They think speaking out is crime, not this: “This boy was speared on the man like an animal, like a pig, and the boy was saying nothing. But on his face—fear.

To them the crime is talking about it, not the rape of little boys.

…he couldn’t believe his son had been raped. Trembling, terrified, he whisked his son away to get medical help but was still too scared to raise a formal complaint. According to Ben and Survivors for Justice, “The greatest sin is not the abuse, but talking about the abuse. Kids and parents who step forward to complain are crushed.”

As for Rabbi Rosenberg, when he voiced his concerns to the rabbinate in Israel, he was brought up on charges by the mishmeres hatznuis, the archconservative Orthodox “modesty squad,” which regulates, often through threats of violence, proper moral conduct and dress in the relations between men and women. The modesty squad is a sort of Jewish Taliban. According to Rabbi Rosenberg, the rapist he caught in the act was a member of the modesty squad

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11
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February 3, 2018 2:35pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  You fucking spineless, chinless little cunt. Tarring me with pedophilia and disappearing. You better fucking hope I don’t find out who you are.
  
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  February 3, 2018 2:50pm
  - Johnboy
    
    What will yo do to him ABS if you find the bastard? 🙂
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:52pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Being a good old Wainuiomata boy you know what I will do JB. He’ll be swallowing his words as well as his teeth. That’s a fucking promise. I am not going to be tarred with pedophilia by anyone. Not when I have a family and a livelihood at stake. Just because that fuckwad doesn’t know who I am here, doesn’t mean others don’t.
      
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      February 3, 2018 3:02pm
      - Johnboy
        
        I’m prepared to be your second ABS old chap.
        I love a good duel. Shall I bring my street sweeper to tidy up if your first shot doesn’t kill the bastard? 🙂
        
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        February 3, 2018 3:06pm
      - realityczech
        
        “I have a family”
        
        You would think a family man would speak out against it, not attack the messenger. Very strange.
        
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        February 3, 2018 6:41pm
  - cha
    
    And do what?
    
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    February 3, 2018 2:53pm
  - Happychappy
    
    If you catch up with him ABS he will be crawling in some corner crying and pleading for you to forgive him as that’s what cowards do.
    
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    February 3, 2018 4:40pm
- Johnboy
  
  I think your fucked rcz mate. You would have stayed safer as part of the Sudetenland! 🙂
  
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  February 3, 2018 3:11pm
  - Swifty
    
    Heh.
    
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    February 3, 2018 4:31pm
JibberJabber

Oh dear, Phil Gifford jumps the shark with his column today, in a reductio ad absurdum type argument trying to conflate Grid “girls” with serial rapist Larry Nassar.https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/101148504/phil-gifford-sorry-gents-but-the-era-of-ogling-at-women-at-sports-events-is-over
To be fair to Stuff they also present the other side,https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/101150091/im-an-outdated-f1-grid-girl-and-im-proud
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February 3, 2018 2:36pm
- Longknives
  
  Phil Gifford lost the plot years ago.
  As a hated ‘Old White Man’ he would be first for the chop if the Femnazis managed to take over and do everything the vile Clementine Ford (‘Kill all Men’ etc) and co are always fantasising about..
  
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  February 3, 2018 3:31pm
Digmen1

Gee people can get nasty!
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February 3, 2018 3:46pm
slightlyrighty

You should see the lather some SJW’s are in over the temerity of a barber to open a business for Men only.

One complained on the Barber’s facebook page, so I asked her some questions about why a business for men only is such a problem.

She labelled it as “Male Nonsense” from a “Bunch of Dudes”, wouldn’t answer my questions and then changed her facebook status so that only her friends can now comment on her comments, but not before casting doubt on my ability to raise my daughter before running off to her digital safe space.

I’m calling it a win for me.
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February 3, 2018 4:00pm
- Swifty
  
  A win – no doubt about it.
  
  Good for you.
  
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  February 3, 2018 4:31pm
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Just checked using my wife’s Facebook. She’s deleted the whole damn thing….should have kept a screenshot.
    
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    February 3, 2018 4:38pm
Digmen1

Our first homeless story since the COL came power

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11982370

Here’s an article in today’s Herald.

Whilst I have some sympathy for her.
I would like to have seen the reporter ask her why she had six children, when most people are happy with two.
And how many fathers were there, and what are they doing now?
Her new pardner is a brave man for taking on six children.
But the kicker of the story is that the guy from WINZ said she won’t be kicked out of her temporary accommodation.

And I read somewhere that WINZ have been told to lighten up.

Ie open up with our wallets.
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February 3, 2018 4:09pm
- Longknives
  
  Six fucking Kids???
  My wife and I are both University Educated/Earn good money and we thought bloody long and hard before deciding to have a second!
  
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  February 3, 2018 7:07pm
  - Digmen1
    
    So I hope you did not vote for the COL
    
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    February 3, 2018 7:16pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Good grief. Most folk that aint UniEd just get a hard and go for it without thinking at all….. even if they got no cash! 🙂
    
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    February 3, 2018 7:19pm
    - Longknives
      
      Ha Ha I’m a ‘Deep Thinking’ Type Johnboy!
      
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      February 3, 2018 7:49pm
- Viking2
  
  And while she is 34 the current bedmate is 25.
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:50pm
Steve (North Shore)

Boring Saturday afternoon, raining and blowing; no boating/fishing. So, something to chew over, Katie Hopkins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G811L4a5aZE
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February 3, 2018 4:14pm
- Morrissey
  
  THE stupidest woman in the U.K. You’ve found your soul mate, you hapless clown.
  
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  February 3, 2018 5:27pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t_KDGqOmE
    I have no downticks, nor did I give any. I will downtick you if you downtick me, deal? Moron
    
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    February 3, 2018 5:53pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Katie Hopkins. What a brilliant woman. My hero!
  
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  February 3, 2018 7:23pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Why does she feel she should dye her black hair grey?
    Does she feel marginalised by grey haired chaps? 🙂
    
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    February 3, 2018 7:26pm
- Digmen1
  
  Thank you so much for that link.
  
  I had never heard of her.
  
  Britain (and the west) needs more heros and heroines like her prepared to speak out.
  
  This muslim invasion of the west has to stop.
  
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  February 4, 2018 7:59am
Maggy Wassilieff

“OK we’ve decided to go our separate ways…

let’s divide our Worldly goods equally”

“Na, let’s give our Lawyers £2million and slug it out”
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/feb/02/rich-couples-divorce-battle-a-waste-of-time-says-uk-judge
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February 3, 2018 4:34pm
Morrissey

Woman groped at Rhythm and Vines encourages others to fight back
A Daisycutter Sports Inc. GROPERS Special Item, Feb. 2, 2018

A woman who was infamously groped at the Rhythm and Vines festival has encouraged others to fight back against unwanted sexual contact.

Madeline Anello-Kitzmiller was topless with glitter and sequins covering her breasts at the New Year’s Eve music festival, when a man was caught on video running up to her and grabbing at her chest from behind.

In video footage, which has since gone viral, the 20-year-old struck back, chasing after the man down and slapping him in return.

“Ladies, if you are inspired to show some skin and fight back if anybody ever hurts you, do it,” Ms Anello-Kitzmiller said in a heartfelt video posted on social media.

“Women have been oversexualised for way too long and it needs to stop.”

Ms Anello-Kitzmiller also said that her revealing attire wasn’t unusual at the festival.

“There was actually a stall selling the ‘glitter tits’ get-up and I paid to have it done, as well as many other girls I saw walking around with it,” she said, as well as revealing there was a water slide encouraging men and women to go down naked.

“I saw plenty of naked men that day getting absolutely no harassment for revealing themselves.”

Jolene Guillam-Scott, the artist who applied the glitter, told RadioLIVE on Wednesday that she’s found the response to the incident “overwhelming”.

“It doesn’t matter what you’re wearing or what gender you are, you should not be touching anybody without consent,” she said.

That sentiment was echoed by Ms Anello-Kitzmiller, who also responded to those saying she was “asking” to be sexually assaulted by dressing a certain way.

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/01/woman-groped-at-rhythm-and-vines-encourages-others-to-fight-back.html
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February 3, 2018 5:13pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Old news – the bloke touched her arm – not her breasts.
  Fake news blown way out of proportion by a ‘no-news-day’ media.
  What is happening about her assault on him? Was she within the law of self defense?
  Storm in a tea cup – get over it.
  
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  February 3, 2018 5:26pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Some of the guys had glitter on their tits and they were not groped, wonder why not? Meanwhile other guys were spotted with glitter on their lips; and no idea how it got there!
    See NZ media, I fixed it for you.
    Be fair ok
    
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    February 3, 2018 7:38pm
- Happychappy
  
  Wouldn’t it be better to go to a sperm bank Morrissey than have to write all these groper stories to help you get off.
  
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  February 3, 2018 7:40pm
- KevOB
  
  A Yank in Kiwiland. A provocative activist or money grubber being paid for the Queen Street march and footage?
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:05pm
stigie

Geez, ole Morris Oxford is really getting off on all this groping shit, hope he doesn’t run out of tossing tissues..?
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February 3, 2018 5:26pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Seems like he has a fixation on this. I don’t like paedophiles, rapists, sychopaths, but I don’t go on every day about them. People would rightly think I have a problem in that area.
  
  Have a look at this… psychology projection transference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
  
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  February 3, 2018 5:51pm
Piniwi

Things have got beyond a joke since old Clark got rid of all the funny farms. A blatant example of earlier unintended consequences. Some have ended up as list MP’s in the COL while the rest are clogging up the 111 emergency services. According to Stuff who seem to be bucking the Media party trend and narrative.

Police are struggling under the weight of spiking mental health demand, with a new report revealing Tasman police were besieged by a 250 per cent increase in calls from 2009 to 2016. Elsewhere it has seems a 77% increase has been recorded. Perhaps we could seek some of those calls through an OIA since they are “recorded”?

Constable Sally Wiffen spent five days of a six day working week waiting in the Wellington hospital emergency department with a person in severe mental distress. (Don’t any of these unfortunate people have family or friends?)

Tasman police district prevention manager, (A what”) Inspector Tim Crawford, said one person experiencing a phase of acute mental distress could make more than 20 calls a month.(Tempting to try calling 111 to see what they ask callers “What is your emergency? But they are already getting too many nutters).

So instead of using the $100 million set aside in Budget 2017 for mental health the COL have initiated yet another inquiry into mental health. It might also help understand why Nash needs 1800 new police of any shape, size or sexual orientation. The plan is there but like so many other “plans” or visions there has not been any clear plan for funding. Now we see another Clark making a bigger hash of Health than the old crow King and mental health issues than the old ex PM with the woman’s name.
Check out question no 7 from 1st Feb to see the poofter jumping to Clark’s rescue and then Mallard actually telling Clark to try again with the answer. This after yet another POO to make clear the question started with “Was he aware of the $100 million allocated etc”. Lol
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February 3, 2018 6:19pm
- Longknives
  
  “It might also help understand why Nash needs 1800 new police of any shape, size or sexual orientation”
  
  Wrong there mate- Mike Bush has made it perfectly clear he doesn’t want any more White Males in his organisation.
  He will fill New Zealand Police with Wings of 40kg Asian Females and Transgender weirdos before he accepts any more dreaded White males…
  I hope you all feel safe ..
  
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  February 3, 2018 7:00pm
  - nasska
    
    We’ll be no better off. It will take about four of them to restrain & arrest a pensioner doing a bit of shoplifting!
    
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    February 3, 2018 7:22pm
    - Johnboy
      
      Some of our big brown pensioners in the Nui would take six nasska. 🙂
      
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      February 3, 2018 7:28pm
      - nasska
        
        Going by what I witnessed on a pool/darts visit to the Fitzroy Tavern many years ago I reckon they’d need eight to be on the safe side JB.
        
        Your natives get a bit restless after a session on the waipiro. 🙂
        
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        February 3, 2018 7:37pm
      - stigie
        
        Well, that means it will take 8 to restrain our dear Pennytration !~
        
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        February 3, 2018 8:04pm
  - RF
    
    Nash might be in trouble.
    
    The current Police intake in the Northern Territory, Aussie has 30 recruits. Around 25 are Kiwi cops who jumped the ditch. All from one North Island Police district.
    
    I hear many more are considering going over for better conditions and more than double the pay…..
    
    Meanwhile flip flop Greg O’Connor has gone underground. Wanker….
    
    So much for him supporting his former employees ….. you never hear from him….
    
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    February 3, 2018 9:42pm
AgentBallSack

The Act also includes criminal offences to penalise the most serious perpetrators, and the Police will handle these cases. Under The Act it can be illegal to send messages and post material online that deliberately cause somebody serious emotional distress.

The Police may prosecute a person or company if:

they intended the communication to cause harm; and
it is reasonable to expect that a person in the position of the targeted individual would be harmed by it; and
the targeted individual suffered serious emotional distress
The court will consider a variety of factors including how widely the material spread and whether what was said was true or not. The penalties for this offence are a fine of up to $50,000 or up to two years’ jail for an individual, and up to $200,000 for a body corporate.
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February 3, 2018 6:27pm
- cha
  
  Sniveling anon soft cock snivels.
  
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  February 3, 2018 6:29pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    You are included in the complaint that has been laid so keep it up. It’s no laughing matter to be called a pedophile repeatedly and it’s illegal in NZ regardless whether you know my identity or not. I will not sit around and be maligned by anonymous people. I have informed DPF of my intentions and will follow it through.
    
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    February 3, 2018 8:14pm
    - cha
      
      I’m fucking trembling, trembling, you delusional soft cocked fuckwit.
      
      btw, ya still felching dirty garden girl’s prolapsed pucker?
      
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      February 3, 2018 8:43pm
- realityczech
  
  ” Under The Act it can be illegal to send messages and post material online that deliberately cause somebody serious emotional distress.”
  
  You mean like this? 😆
  
  I will fucking destroy you for what you have just said about me. MAN UP CUNT NAME THE PLACE AND TIME”
  
  Come meet me tomorrow and put your money where your mouth is you spineless fucking cunt. Name a time and place and have an ambulance ready to drag your smashed up body away RC.
  
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  February 3, 2018 6:34pm
  - realityczech
    
    It is important to keep in mind that these sorts of offences are common even outside of religious groups. This is why it is important to be open about this, so victims, and those speaking up, feel safe about coming out.
    
    Same with those people threatening to harm others.
    
    Wainuiomata man Robert John Gregory appeared in the Whanganui District Court on Wednesday on several charges including sexually violating children and threatening to kill.
    
    The 41-year-old storeperson has not yet entered pleas to eight charges, which include indecently assaulting and sexually violating young girls, threatening grievous bodily harm, and threatening to kill.
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503426&objectid=11456544
    
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    February 3, 2018 6:48pm
  - stigie
    
    You may need something stronger than that for you to have some serious emotional distress RC..?
    See if you can tough it out bigboy !~
    
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    February 3, 2018 7:01pm
    - realityczech
      
      stigie, thank you for your concern. I am genuinely fearful for my life after receiving those threats. He told me he lives in my town and has made it clear he is after me. He is trying to get my details from our host.
      
      This is a dangerous and unstable man and I am very afraid.
      
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      February 3, 2018 7:05pm
      - Johnboy
        
        I’ve never been a Robert John Gregory in my life. As far as lowering myself to the status of storeman well I never…no one with half a brain could possibly stoop to that level! 🙂
        
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        February 3, 2018 7:12pm
      - stigie
        
        What makes you think he is trying to get your details off this blog’s host, i would have thought that is not possible. You telling porkies RC..?
        
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        February 3, 2018 7:20pm
      - nasska
        
        Harden up RC. Ballsack’s a pussycat. 🙂
        
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        February 3, 2018 7:44pm
nasska

…..”these sorts of offences are common even outside of religious groups”…..

But the way they’re dealt with & the consequences for the complainant are vastly different.

Scenario 1#

A kid is sexually abused by the dirty old man next door or even a teacher. They tell their parents, there’s a bit of drama, then the police are asked to investigate. The child has parental support, is generally believed & counselling will be made available if needed. Above all they will end up knowing that it wasn’t their fault.

Scenario 2#

A rabbi, imam or priest abuses a kid. If the kid tells their parents there’s a good chance they will not be believed. The parents have been brainwashed sufficiently that they will not credit that the representative of their imaginary friend would do such a thing even if the evidence is in front of them.

The kid is told to shut up & if by some miracle the courts ever get to decide what happened he/she will be made to feel responsible for the “shame” they have brought upon the parents & community. On occasions the child will effectively be excommunicated from their family & friends.

This is why religious paedophiles are, if it’s possible, lower than their secular co-arseholes. They use the power their simple minded flock accord them to devastate lives & go undetected & unpunished.
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February 3, 2018 7:17pm
- Johnboy
  
  No wonder Milkey hates those Catholic fucks that hi-jacked Hutt Old Boys! 🙂
  
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  February 3, 2018 7:34pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Teachers, just the same. And if you look at the stats, there’s a higher chance that a child will be molested by a teacher than a religious leader.
  
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  February 3, 2018 10:40pm
  - Digmen1
    
    Or is is just that there is a higher chance that teachers will get caught as religous people would l”never do that!”
    
    There is also a high chance of being molested by a “family member”
    
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    February 4, 2018 7:56am
stigie

Crikey, if milky doesn’t hurry up and get cracking, you will be scorching ahead in the comment dept JB..?
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February 3, 2018 7:46pm
cha

When Alberto “torture memo” Gonzales shits on your memo……

Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez slammed a Republican-drafted memo alledging surveillance at the Department of Justice on Friday, saying he did not have any confidence in the controversial document.

“I have no confidence whatsoever in what’s going to come out of the House,” the former attorney general under George W. Bush told Time magazine, adding, “Nunes seems to be part of the Trump team.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/372018-alberto-gonzales-i-have-no-confidence-whatsoever-in-nunes-memo
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February 3, 2018 8:52pm
- stephieboy
  
  A day that has not gone well for Team Trump both here and back in the US of A .
  
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  February 3, 2018 9:16pm
  - Inandout
    
    90% more memos to go drop head, and there will be prosecutions because on four occasions a Judge was misled into authorising a FISA warrant.
    
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    February 3, 2018 10:31pm
    - cha
      
      on four occasions a Judge was misled into authorising a FISA warrant.
      
      Cite?
      
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      February 3, 2018 11:50pm
RF

Spare a thought for the Kiwis and tourists caught out by the slips and flooding on the west coast around Fox and Haast.

After many hours of being trapped without food the 100 plus people trapped hearing the sound of rescue helecopters must have been music to their ears…

Sorry mate. The one chopper was on medical flight and only had some bottled water and a cake of chocolate.

As the Labour Govt was at Waitangi sucking arses they forgot to organise a rescue mission. What useless pack of front bums.
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February 3, 2018 9:23pm
Manolo

The Clinton Foundation should chip in:
http://theweek.com/speedreads/752743/dnc-reportedly-dead-broke-rnc-nearly-40-million

The Democratic National Committee had a rough 2017, plagued by leadership troubles, internal squabbling, and unflattering reports. To top it off, the party ended the year “dead broke,” says The Intercept’s Ryan Grim.

The Democratic Party is carrying more than $6 million in debt, according to year-end filings — and has just $6.5 million in the bank.
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February 4, 2018 7:48am
Manolo

The peddler of lies is quite cunning:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/popes-china-calculation-clashes-with-image-as-champion-of-oppressed-1517600924
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