General Debate 2 February 2018

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Peter

Political correctness and post-modernism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5rUPatnXSE

“No matter how controversial, we must recognize the importance of free speech” – Peterson
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February 2, 2018 8:05am
- cmm
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:06am
- EAD_TWO
  
  The way that Jordan Peterson is being promoted, when usually anyone who supports mens rights is “sexist” or a “dinosaur”, suggests that he has become a safety valve for the disillusioned and someone who is not a threat to the establishment.
  
  After all there being no opposition to insane feminism might make people question what’s really going on and they don’t want people knowing the reality of the feminism agenda which is depopulation and the sexes intensely polarised.
  
  However if he helps young men get their shit together in a society that does not care then I support that 100%.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:28am
oldpark

Came across a couple of one liners that are completely appropiate for the Peters Party.
Politics is made up of two words.”Poli” which is Greek for “many”,and “tics” which are blood sucking insects.
There is no act of treachery or meaness of which a political party is not capable,for in politics there is no honour.Nuff said.
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February 2, 2018 8:06am
- G152
  
  Winston first is history and a rabid one at that.
  All those members booted from its ranks must be chortling as they watch the corpse rotting
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:20am
  - Liberty
    
    Paula put the old git in his place.
    
    What an overreaction by Mallard
    
    Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: I withdraw and apologise, and say this: I think there is an enormous—not a grain of salt but a bag of salt that’s got to be laid around the comments by that member. More particularly, I do not think this is the right place to litigate the National Party leadership challenges at this point in time.
    Hon Paula Bennett: Keep deflecting, old man. I raise a point of order.
    Mr SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] No, I’m going to deal with it first. What I would like is silence in the House while I indicate that that was very unacceptable. The member knows it, and, as a result of it, four questions will be deducted from the National Party.
    
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    February 2, 2018 12:47pm
GazzaW

When Liam Dann predicts economic problems under Labour you know there are some really major concerns.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11986202

What a tragedy to see all of our sacrifices so hard earned over the last nine years pissed away in order to pursue the disparate ideologies of the single term COL.
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February 2, 2018 8:07am
- Digmen1
  
  I think its going to be much worse than they suggest.
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:11am
- Cunningham
  
  Business confidence tanks and yet they push through with old school unionist policies which will make business confidence tank even more. It’s not a matter of if things turn to shit but when. I hope they get severely punished by the electorate when that happens.
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:40am
  - Harriet
    
    Labour is enforcing fair pay because national didn’t bother to promote fair pay. There is endless examples where employers have taken the piss out of the ECA and their employees.
    As Ruth Richardson said “Those who do the work will get more pay.” – but future national leaders then sat back and watched as all staff were being paid the same rates and said nothing.
    Sadly employers have had this coming for a long time but they can still do something about it — pay their productive staff more than the unproductive.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:30am
    - VicParking
      
      National kept pay rate rises above inflation and reduced taxes and increased benefits. Business rewarded workers for productivity.
      Labour incease wages and benefits but tax all this away. This results in the benefit to the country not being distributed to the people who are making NZ a success but to the overweight slobs doing nothing.
      But that’s socialism and it works, look at Venezuela.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:54am
      - Harriet
        
        “….Business rewarded workers for productivity….”
        
        Not when I lived there, instead they paid everyone the same rate or there abouts – the productive carried the unproductive – and I’d think that won’t have changed too much in small/medium businesses.
        
        “….National kept pay rate rises above inflation….”
        
        That’s nothing to be proud of when it relates to public servants. And it doesn’t relate to those in the private sector as it’s not the role of government to ‘decide’ when/where/what with regards to private sector wages.
        I’m simply stating that National should have promoted the idea that people be paid according to the proportion of work that they do compared with those they work with – as that is how Ruth promoted the ECA!!
        
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        February 2, 2018 11:09am
    - Harriet
      
      You 10 should piss off to the Labour party since disparity is more of an issue to you than work ethic. Seriously, you have a problem with people being paid in proportion to their work!
      Commies 😎
      
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      February 2, 2018 11:00am
      - lifesgood
        
        So you don’t even live here?!!!! You sound just like a moaning pom…never happy where ever you live.
        
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        February 2, 2018 1:24pm
    - KiWombat
      
      “Sadly employers have had this coming for a long time but they can still do something about it — pay their productive staff more than the unproductive.”
      
      Agree entirely – but the unions are against this approach.
      
      In my business, my most valuable assets were my employees (well, some of them – – ) and I looked after them very well.
      
      My business made money, and I shared the profits with those who made the greatest contribution.
      
      Unfortunately unions demanded all be treated equally, so the most productive had to miss out at times.
      
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      February 2, 2018 2:47pm
Yvette

Here, surely, is one Penny Bright has been waiting for.

The Auckland Ratepayers’ Alliance is asking questions about ATEED’s sponsorship of Pride Festival events like KIWIFIST 2018.
The R16 event is part of Pride’s February 2-18 festival. It is described on the ATEED-sponsored website as ‘New Zealand’s biggest arse-play event’, and advises attendees to ‘BYO toys and lubes’ for ‘a full-on, five-hour-plus, gathering of gay and bi men into fisting and arse-play big-time’.

Since so many Auckland Council beaches are closed time to time for having shit and other sewerage on them, what medical consultations has ATEED had in the advisability of helping promote an event where people might put their hand up another person’s bottom?

I profoundly beg my pardon if people are still having breakfast, particularly any form of wheat cereal.

Will Bishop Brian Tamaki, see Penny’s light, and refuse now also to pay his church’s rates, or is he screwed by Matthew 22:21 – Jesus said “Render to Phil Goff the things that are Phil Goffs; and to God the things that are God’s.” or Romans 13:1 – “Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities – even local governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God and those which exist are established by God, except for Trevor Mallard.”

Or will Brian just remain silent waiting for Auckland’s volcanic field to do God’s work, especially for those who have paid tens of thousands more to be on the right side of the street to have a view of Rangitoto – sort of direct line of ~~sight~~ fire ?

And if Brian’s churches are excused from paying rates, will he voluntarily pay something so he can then withdraw it with as much public furore as possible to save Auckland from likely volcanic wrath?

He pōkēkē uenuku i tu ai! Against a dark cloud, a rainbow stands out brightly!
Not the Noahic rainbow covenant of God, that’s for bloody sure

Go, Penny Bright – you’re right!
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February 2, 2018 8:09am
- cmm
  
  I am not quite sure what you are suggesting Penny should do.
  
  Should she go to the event and take her favourite toy: her angle grinder?
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:29am
  - Biscuit
    
    cmm, if we are thinking of suggestions for what Penny should do I have a great one…
    
    But I shall self-censor it!
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:59am
    - cmm
      
      Did it involve the angle grinder?
      
      When I was in the army there was a really butch female sarge who ran the armory. There was a rumour about her using an Uzi as a sex toy. I doubt it was true. I think she would have gone with an FAL.
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:22am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Or an RPG ? 😉
        
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        February 2, 2018 11:22am
      - cmm
        
        Don: Well that would certainly make you smoke after sex!
        
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        February 2, 2018 2:56pm
- Gravelroad
  
  But what about all the homelessness and child poverdy in Auckland?
  The Council has money to fund a perverted sex festival while children are going to school hungry and with no shoes.
  Shameful.
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:58am
  - ztev
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Its a fake news beatup by that ratepayers outfit- really an astroturf offshoot of Taxpayers Onion.
    
    Council funding is for the Pride march- mainly crowd control and cleanup costs. When you have 100K people its necessary
    The Pride festival has its own features which aremt funded
    https://thespinoff.co.nz/auckland/01-02-2018/cheat-sheet-is-auckland-council-sponsoring-a-fisting-festival/
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:07am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Ztev, you talk in meaningless riddles.
      What is an “Astroturf spinoff of Taxpayers Onion”?
      I suppose you can justify the Auckland Council’s funding of a sex festival because a lot of others are also doing it.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:15am
    - cmm
      
      It the Taxpayers’ Onion a new way to give vegetables to the poor and fix poverdee?
      
      I don’t really care if it is a mass orgy, Fisting Fest or a goat fucking marathon. Auckland should be distancing themselves from any events like this.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:16am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Welcome to the new normal (I say to myself). I didn’t find anything particularly new or surprising about those community events you describe.
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:08am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Phill Goff has announced that no ratepayer money is going to the fisters. Fancy having to make a Mayoral statement like that?
        
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        February 2, 2018 3:21pm
      - sooty
        
        Goofy says that that the council is not going to give anyone a sore arse.
        
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        February 2, 2018 4:35pm
  - stigie
    
    “But what about all the homelessness and child poverdy in Auckland?”
    
    There’s no poverdy and homelessness now, this new government has fixed all that.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:11am
    - KiWombat
      
      They all packed up and left the same night the ballot boxes closed
      
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      February 2, 2018 2:52pm
  - VicParking
    
    Not a local Government responsibility. The problem is the Local Government act has become so sloppy councils (especially socialist ones) let the Roads pothole. Sewerage and stormwater mix while supporting Fisting.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:58am
    - KiWombat
      
      Perhaps some councilors should volunteer to be on the receiving end.
      
      Might make them think twice when they come to allocate funds for such an event in the future
      
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      February 2, 2018 2:54pm
twofish

Winston Peters with only 7.2 % party vote gets to decide the Election.
That’s MMP. That’s the system designed to thwart Germany from ever having another Hitler (and why the fuck can’t we have instead the apparently better system the US forced on the Japanese?
Anyway now Winston polls well below the thresh-hold that would see him not in Parliament at all.

However he gets to announce a $10 million covered race course for the racing industry he has chosen to represent as Minister, while Ardern struggles with definitions of poverty so she cannot yet say how many her already announced policy will lift out of dire need.

It would seem the covered race course is a surprise to Finance Minister Robertson, who is still trying to get over the Jacinda “Captain’s Call” strait-jacket of no new taxes until after Election 2020.

But what does $10million buy in race track coverage, when that cash would buy you less than 10 average Auckland houses?
And how is it budgeted when its location is even still a mystery?

And further to that, how far will punters have to travel in inclement weather to stand or sit dry under a structure to protect them from the same inclement weather?

Had enough? No, more must be coming
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February 2, 2018 8:17am
- Poppa
  
  I am sure the racetrack will be made portable so that if a race meeting is cancelled through bad weather they will just transport it to the location. Or maybe they could just send a fleet of jets to bring horses & people to the Waikato where the new track will be.
  
  I doubt we will ever see this outstanding Peters invention, it was pure grandstanding
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:35am
  - tf78
    
    Apparently there is no problem with the Waikato track as it has been redone with proper drainage systems.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:24am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      So it’ll probable be there then.
      (On current logic)
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:41am
  - KiWombat
    
    Great idea to make it portable – then it can be moved at will from NZ1 electorate to NZ1 electorate –
    
    – oh – hang on a minute
    
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    February 2, 2018 2:57pm
- niggly
  
  Had Enough?
  
  Thanks for the reminder of that NZF slogan (had completely forgotten about it)!
  
  I recall thinking when seeing the “Had Enough” slogan plastered alongside a faux-laughing Winston Peters on their billboards, that ummm that could be taken as a negative (eg Had Enough of Winston Peters).
  
  Turns out their ill-thought out slogan was rather prophetic (as people desert NZF judging by their failure in the last 3 major polls)! 🙂
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:36am
  - KiWombat
    
    Recall seeing some of his billboards with the word “Whisky” added after “had enough” and boggly eyes added. Somebody had a sense of humor !
    
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    February 2, 2018 2:59pm
- cmm
  
  This is just another confirmation for my “talk is cheap post” below.
  
  Winnie knows he can make all these promises because, by the time anything would actually get built and have to be funded, he’d be long gone.
  
  $10M wont even pay the consultants’ fees for doing feasibility studies etc., let alone the costs of RMA hearings etc.
  
  Winnie can say all this stuff and be seen as a visionary, let down by all the pesky engineers, accountants and people that actually make stuff happen.
  
  Even if this got a green light tomorrow, and Robbo found $250M under the sofa, the RMA process would prevent anything being done before 2025 or so. By then Winnie is safely out of harm’s way.
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:51am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Actually all the engineers’ reports and hydrologists’ reports have been done for an all weather track at Matamata. It was at an advanced stage of planning then the Racing Board (I think) pulled the pin on it. That is why they no longer run steeplechase events at Matamata. Part of the arrangements was to get rid of the steeplechase track and enter into land sales and purchase agreements with neighbours, which was all done before the pin was pulled.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:09am
    - twofish
      
      So if Matamata was what Winston had in mind, does the track to enclose still exist or not, and would Winston need a new track and the land under it, before he can put his $10m lid over it?
      
      He better get in fast before Shane has it all planted with bloody pine trees.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:34am
      - Paulus
        
        Surely Hobbiton at Matamata can be converted so the tourists can combine the Hobbits with Horse Racing.
        
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        February 2, 2018 11:10am
      - MH
        
        is he at the end of his rein?
        
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        February 2, 2018 5:15pm
    - cmm
      
      ” It was at an advanced stage of planning”
      
      When was that? If it was more than 10 years ago or so, you can guarantee all those reports will have to be redone.
      
      It isn’t just make-work either – engineering standards for data change and nobody wants to risk liability due to using old/insufficient data.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:59am
    - Biscuit
      
      Tauhei, I know New Zealand has a reputation for breeding stayers but most races seem to e run over 1200 metres to 1600 metres.
      
      Why can’t a straight mile track be built instead of those ovals, parts of which might be galloped on only 4 or 5 times each day…
      
      Less costs, I’d have thought…
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:02am
- ztev
  
  Covered race course?
  
  We have our cat running up the stupid tree again.
  All weather- means synthetic grass track or other synthetic SURFACES
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:11am
  - sooty
    
    CAT? I don’t know about that, but you certainly let go a few squirrels up the tree!
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:46am
    - KiWombat
      
      Something is loose in the top paddock
      
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      February 2, 2018 3:02pm
  - cmm
    
    “All weather- means synthetic grass track or other synthetic SURFACES”
    
    Surely it would still be a grass track with massive under-track drainage for the sort of money they are talking.
    
    Synthetic surfaces (aka astroturf) are incredibly expensive. A hockey field costs over $1M and that is pretty fragile – you have to be careful about the footwear you use. It certainly can’t take a horse walking on it, let alone 20 horses galloping.
    
    “Astroturf for horses” would surely cost a hell of a lot more per area than atroturf for hockey.
    
    Using hockey turf style covering for a whole racing track would cost many tens of millions. I can’t see a synthetic track costing $10M or whatever.
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:09am
    - fernglas
      
      It’s easy. You do the surface in concrete reinforced with dumped Chinese steel. The horses wear little booties hand sewn by Vietnamese peasants and imported tariff free under whatever TPPA we sign off on next.
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:22am
    - Poppa
      
      The surface would actually be sand & shell much like a harness track probably.
      
      I do know there was talk of it at Matamata some years ago but it doesn’t solve the problem of meetings being cancelled at all. There are far too many racing clubs in this country but the fact there is does provide options if a particular track is damaged
      
      They do use such tracks overseas where they have limited number of tracks to race on purely to preserve the grass for big meetings
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:24am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Steel framed buildings are cheap ~$100/m² if there is no concrete floor to do. So covering a 15m wide 2km track would only cost something like $3million.
  
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  February 2, 2018 11:01am
cmm

Auckland throws out its own plan:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11986372

Now why would they do that?

I’ve come to the conclusion that the Lefties like to talk and like to have “conversions” and pretend they are doing things.

But they don’t actually want to get into the space where they actually have to do things.

When you’re just talking you can make all the right sounds (about poverdy, sustainability and bamboo bicycles). When you’re just talking there is no risk of failure. You can pretend everyone is going to be happy. You are not accountable for any outcomes.

It is only when you actually come to do stuff that things really get hard. It is then that plans go awry, and some people get happy and others get annoyed. It is only then that people really have to put their arses on the line.

So making, then scuttling plans is a much safer option than making a plan and executing it. This keeps all the consultants in gravy and everyone can go to meetings, look at the PowerPoints and feel important without taking on any real responsibility. It does not matter that the crap that is being talked about will not actually work. You can promise the earth. It does not matter unless you actually DO stuff.

I think we’re going to see lots of that with the CoL which is whay I am not too worried about them breaking stuff. They have already started many conversations and will start more. Great. People who are conversing are not achieving anything, but they are also not breaking anything either.
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February 2, 2018 8:22am
- sooty
  
  Going to keep more than a few lefties employed here. Redoing the plan, get paid twice! If they can just fudge it some more, it will turn out to be a life times work.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:48am
- VicParking
  
  There is bullshit here somewhere. No way is the annual plan not seen by both politicians and the management team before its released. The policy at AT, could have changed since I worked there but I think not, is that both the CEO and Chairman sign it off before it could be published onLine. Before that it would be sent to all councillors embargoed so they would have read it and be prepared for questions from constituents. The Auckland Councils Mayors office and Council CEO would also have a copy. My view is a copy was leaked to the Minister and he raised shit.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:12am
  - john
    
    How would you not know what was in your plan. Somewhere down here we are about to finalise our long term plan for consultation, we have been involved all the way through and finest it with staff to ensure it meets our requirements prior to releasing. Incompetent or bullshit take your pick.
    
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    February 2, 2018 5:38pm
- rangitoto
  
  So they come up with a plan that serves the AUCKLAND RATE PAYERS well and some filthy scum idealogue in Wellington throws its toys out of the cot.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:21am
G152

The Peters party relies upon the next generation of elderly losing their marbles and voting for him.
Currently the polling indicates that the death rate has removed this voting sector but making way for the next age related mentally disturbed generation.
We’ll never get out alive 🙂
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February 2, 2018 8:27am
- cmm
  
  The Peters party only exists for Peters. There is no legacy. There is not NZF. When Peters is done, the Party is done.
  
  That’s why there’s the anti-waka-jumping bill. It is to prevent people from leaving.
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:32am
  - Lance
    
    Kind of like Peters own Berlin Wall?
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:15am
    - cmm
      
      Exactly.
      
      If you have a shithole country/party/whatever to need barriers to stop people leaving.
      
      If NZF was a wonderful party then Winnie would be wanting to keep the doors open so that others could jump from their wakas into his.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:23am
      - Rich Prick
        
        If I were a NZF MP, I’d be out before The Wall goes up.
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:54am
      - cmm
        
        RP: Yup, certainly. As I have written before, the anti-jumping bill will force people to jump.
        
        As a NZF MP you have three options when the bill gets close to its final hearing:
        * Jump: CoL loses their majority and there is potentially a change of government. Potentially negotiate onto National’s list and make another term as a National MP in 2020.
        * Stay in NZF, but refuse to vote along party lines. What’s Winnie going to do? Fire you? Then he loses his MPs and thus has no more leverage over Labour/Greens. If you’re a cross-bench independent you really don’t have a chance as an MP in 2020.
        * Meekly submit and stay with NZF. No chance of another term in parliament since NZF is going down the gurgler.
        
        Hmmm options, options….
        
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        February 2, 2018 2:38pm
      - Piniwi
        
        But cmm wak are you talking about? If they are jumping out of a waka then nobody would want them.
        
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        February 2, 2018 2:59pm
- GazzaW
  
  Don’t despair G152, current baby boomers are a different breed to Winston’s mob. We’ve known him and his deviousness since our thirties. We’ve grown up with the prick and are hardly likely to support him now. Where’s the logic in that?
  
  I can’t wait for the first real poll that will confirm WFP and NZF are finished once and for all.
  
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  February 2, 2018 5:17pm
Albert_Ross

Here’s a challenge for those here who like to criticise the “neoliberal agenda”.

https://medium.com/@s8mb/im-a-neoliberal-maybe-you-are-too-b809a2a588d6

Which of the articles on this statement of what the neoliberal agenda actually is, do you oppose, and why?
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February 2, 2018 8:27am
- Scott
  
  Umm very quick peruse. The one about open borders. For example NZ can barely pay for looking after it’s own citizens. We cannot open our borders to everyone and pay for them as well. The Somalian refugees have cost us a lot of money to take just one example. I’ve heard that half of them can’t find work. Many will be on welfare long term.
  If we have a homeless crisis we need to look first after our own.
  
  Unrestricted immigration and open borders has been rejected in the UK and the USA because it’s detrimental to the country and its own citizens.
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:56am
  - cmm
    
    If the Somalis in Oz are anything to go by, then they’re a huge long term problem.
    
    While they only cause a small % of all crime, they are really punching above their weight.
    
    They are only 0.14% of the Melbourne population but account for over 1% of all crime (ie 7 times worse than the average population). In some crimes categories they account for 6% (ie 43 times more likely to commit these crimes).
    
    You’ve got to be suicidal to not want to take some corrective action.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:31am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      cmm , useful if in future you site your sources with those claims
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:43am
      - sooty
        
        Why? You sprout bullshit every day!
        
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        February 2, 2018 9:51am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The sources and facts have been presented here on a number of occasions last month.
        Don’t you remember, stephieboy?
        The figures come from the Victorian Crime Statistics Authority.
        Here, read all about it in a leftie rag:
        https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:04am
      - Digmen1
        
        If there were no Somalis in Australia, there would be no crime committed by them at all.
        Problem solved.
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:23am
      - stephieboy
        
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        Maggy W,
        
        “Sensational media reports about violent incidents have raised social and political tension, and put Victorian police in the spotlight. But the truth is inevitably more complicated “
        
        Repeat , “But the truth is inevitably more complicated “
        
        Those stats are cited and then this is added ,
        
        “..However, by pulling out particular offences you can highlight certain groups. For example, in charges of riot and affray, people born in Sudan made up 6% of all recorded offenders, compared with 71.5% born in Australia and 5.2% born in New Zealand, a federal parliamentary inquiry reported, citing CSA statistics.
        
        Prepare to see these statistics manipulated in many ways, by both sides of politics, as the state election draws closer. The contributions of federal ministers, including the prime minister, in this debate are also likely to increase; Matthew Guy’s Liberal opposition in Victoria is building its case for election on law and order issues.
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines
        
        Why did you or cmm leave that part out ?
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:24am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Why did you or cmm leave that part out ?
        
        I didn’t leave that part out stephieboy.
        I gave you a link so you and anyone else could read it.
        I was answering your question about sources.
        
        But I am pleased to see that you have now learnt to read the links I post here, and not just nut off at me.
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:29am
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy W, yes read the link but not a selective part of it as you’ve apparently done .
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:52am
      - cmm
        
        In what way was I manipulating the statistics?
        
        I took the bare facts: 0.14% of the population is responsible for 1% of the crime overall (or 6% in specific categories). That translates to 7 times the average offending rate (or 43 times for some categories).
        
        The other commentary is just that: commentary. “Prepare to see these statistics manipulated in many ways, by both sides of politics, as the state election draws closer” does not change the facts. It does not change that 7x or 43x number.
        
        You can hug, feel sad, get pregnant or start another conversation, but it doesn’t change the numbers.
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:57am
      - stephieboy
        
        cmm , the facts are you site some stats and put them totally out of context in an attempt to smear an entire immigrant group .
        We’ve all seen this all before with Italians , Chinese , Greeks , Lebanese etc targeted .
        
        Recall Richard Prebble and those so called Somali gangs rampaging in Auckland so many years ago. Still violently rampaging ?
        
        BTW for your interest Southern Sudanese are mainly Christian.
        
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        February 2, 2018 11:10am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Maggy W, yes read the link but not a selective part of it as you’ve apparently done .
        
        Gee stephieboy,
        I told you above that all these facts had been previously posted here…(by me)
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/01/general_debate_6_january_2018.html#comment-2111654
        
        Oh look …same article that I’ve linked to today.
        
        Not my fault that you failed to read it last month.
        
        I have no trouble with comprehension.
        
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        February 2, 2018 12:18pm
      - cmm
        
        “BTW for your interest Southern Sudanese are mainly Christian.”
        
        I really don’t care where they are from or what gods they do or don’t believe in.
        
        All I really care about is what they do.
        
        These people are incompatible with a modern Western society.
        
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        February 2, 2018 2:43pm
    - kowtow
      
      Cite , not site.
      
      Anyway , look how it’s working for Sweden.
      
      ”
      Amidst a wave of bloody, gang-related murders in Stockholm, and police warnings that the situation is likely to get worse, a report has found 94.5 per cent of people identified as being involved in the Swedish capital’s violent, organised crime scene have a migration background.”
      
      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/04/95-per-cent-gang-crime-stockholm-foreign/
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:36am
    - calendar girl
      
      stephie @ 11:10am above:
      
      “cmm , the facts are you site some stats and ……”
      
      Another crude attempt at rebuttal. But let’s endeavour to take something of value out of it. The big word that you’re looking for is “cite”, not “site”.
      
      Just a wee addition to your education.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:49pm
  - Albert_Ross
    
    That is a critique of a neoliberal principle from the right.
    
    Where is the leftist opposition?
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:58am
- SGA
  
  Albert, I’m surprised that number 10 wasn’t, “We like kittens”. 🙂
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:01am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Because the other statements are all so inoffensive and mainstream?
    
    That’s kind of the point – the “neoliberal agenda” is derided as something monstrous and extreme, but there’s no actual basis for that portrayal and no evidence that very many people actually hold the extremist opinions that are ascribed to “neoliberalism”.
    
    Now if you want to argue that the “neoliberal agenda” is something other than what this author says, by all means do so. But you could cite evidence of somebody actually saying the things that opponents claim “neoliberals” all think.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:55am
    - SGA
      
      Sorry, Albert, but I found the article a bit lame. It’s nice that the neo-liberal agenda includes caring for the poor, but it’s hardly what you’d call a distinguishing feature. Hence, my comment about liking kittens (except for my neighbour’s who has far too many bloody cats already, grrrr).
      Sure, there are some who think that all neo-libs are cold-hearted narcissists (just as there are others who see anyone to the left of them as budding Stalinists), but an article like that isn’t going to change their minds.
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:09am
holysheet

Wah wah wah.
Wheres my bloody house yous liars. I followed yous all last year and voted for yous. Now I want my new house yous promised us fullas on the street. We have been told we are living in poverdy and yous fullas will fix it. Well wheres my bloody house.
After 100 days yous should have built 2700 houses. I want mine now, not in 3 years time.
Wah wah wah.
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February 2, 2018 8:30am
- igm
  
  Notice there is no respite with beggars still on the streets all over NZ. Thought Labour was stopping this with taxpayers’ money. Seems also, there is still genuine cases of people in cars, but the choreographed media examples have now ceased. If Stuff are correct and there is a financial correction coming, what will fat fairy and one hump camel do to placate their leeching supporters . . . the cupboard will be bare.
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:38am
  - Prince
    
    I think the beggars must have gone. No mention of them in the media since the election, and no staged homeless or overcrowding examples put to the media by Labour Party or Green electorate members.
    
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    February 2, 2018 8:59am
  - VicParking
    
    All the beggars will be removed from the streets so that when the Gayboy and bracelet walk the streets with baby he will not have to explain that mommy lies.
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:15am
- KKKKatee
  
  “A house for everyone” was what the lying PM told her followers…….
  Where, exactly, are those houses?
  Pffft! What say you Ardern?
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:30am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Wassa madda Sheet – you run outta letterbox’s to bend? Your current hous got no moa windoes to shove da missus fru?? Da elements on da stove got all bent an stuffed?
  Yous gotta wait ya turn.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:47am
- stephieboy
  
  Holysheet , instead of your typical whinge binge what about presenting your 10 point plan to solve the housing affordability issue ?
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:51am
  - VicParking
    
    Stephie,? Point 1 getup up off your arse and get a job so you can buy a house Point 2 to 10, same as 1
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:17am
JIV

Does anyone else think that there is a lot less Jacinda news in the papers this year. Also, Donald Trump only appears in the international news section, where he belongs.
Have the MSM run out of steam in their one sided commentary or is it a case of if you cant say something nice about a person, don’t say anything at all (Obviously the opposite for DT).
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February 2, 2018 8:32am
- niggly
  
  Sadly probably only a temporary set-back as the MSM slowly gear back up after their long-hot summer holidays!
  
  Expect normal propaganda transmissions to resume ….
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:39am
  - RalphT
    
    And they’ve probably been too busy knitting booties and hats for the baby.
    
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    February 2, 2018 8:45am
- flipper
  
  After yesterday’s absurdly highlighted pejorative post on Trump, the spit-ball gun, Mark Thiessen, has recanted.
  
  It is no surprise that the wets here keep trying to put down Trump. But now, surprise, surprise. Thiessen has now recanted, big time, after the Trump S O T N speech.
  
  Of course the WP/NYT/and all the other wets, here and in the USA will try to denounce Trump. But before there is an anti-Trump knee-jerk response here, examine also the switch in US MSM towards the once lauded fiction writer, Woolf. Woolf was shut down, mid interview, on MSNBC because he was obviously lying, yet again, about Nicky Haley.
  
  And now read Thiessen today and remember his words when the urge to wet your nappies arises:
  
  http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/01/marc-thiessen-trump-won-over-lot-americans-this-week-let-s-see-what-does-now.html
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:01am
  - flipper
    
    Awaiting moderation (after 6400+ posts) for that moderate piece.
    DPF,
    the system employed has failed, just like the wets and the other idiots writing out of Fraser House.
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:17am
    - flipper
      
      Cleared. Must have been a wrong thumb. 🙂
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:19am
  - Harkman
    
    That Michael Wolff is a fiction writer.
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:21am
- backster
  
  In reply to Jiv and niggly…Sorry Cover photo on latest womans weekly with big new boobies to boot.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:20am
Inandout

This huge tract of land in Auckland that Twyford has bought for his huge housing project, will this eventually become another state slum? And then there are qualified builders and other tradesmen. I can see Phil in big trouble here and definitely in need of a miracle.
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February 2, 2018 8:34am
- waikatogirl
  
  Judith Collins reminded Twitford “don’t forget the roads to the new housing Phil. I’ll be watching you”. Twitford replied there would be light rail included in the plan.
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:46am
  - igm
    
    Judith Collins makes Twyford look like a foolish wimp, and God help fat fairy when she zeroes in on him, having a real score to settle.
    
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    February 2, 2018 8:54am
    - flipper
      
      @ igm ….
      ” …. makes Twyford look like a foolish wimp, …”
      Naah..
      Please allow this correction:
      
      ” … makes Twyford look like a smarmy and foolish wimp, ….”
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:37am
  - KevOB
    
    Light rail around Auckland suburbs?
    What is the population of Auckland? Aspirations and economics are not best friends. What are children doing in government?
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:01am
dime

Trump delivers amazing speech.

The Dems spend the time snarling and looking at their phones.

70-75% of yanks liked his speech according to the polls.

Stuff has 5 negative stories about his speech.

are these losers aware we cant vote over there?

wait til we get our own trump, then they will have something to complain about.

and dont tell me jacindas bitch winston is our version of trump. hes just chompers poodle, like he was with helen. he can only make money when in politics. he doesnt have trumps brain. trump doesnt drink. trump isnt 4’8″ etc etc i could go on for days..
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February 2, 2018 8:37am
- igm
  
  As always, Dime is on the money!
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:39am
  - dime
    
    cheers!
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:09am
  - stephieboy
    
    As always, Dime is on the money!
    
    Joking naturally !
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:53am
    - VicParking
      
      Your goats calling Stephie, your the only joke round here??
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:21am
- Harriet
  
  “…..wait til we get our own trump, then they will have something to complain about….”
  
  Roger Douglas, Bob Jones and Generals Macarthur and Pinochet won’t be coming back anytime soon Dime………. there’s just sunshine and taxes after that.
  
  Like me you could vote for Cory! 😎
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:49am
- MCos
  
  There’s all sorts of reasons why NZ will never get someone like Trump leading the country.
  For a start we don’t have a presidential system whereby an outsider can circumvent the party establishment as Trump was able to do with ease.
  Don Brash probably came closest, but he was no Trump.
  The cabinet in NZ is made up of elected MPs and can’t be dismissed from parliament – although that could change. So there is a limited pool to choose from. POTUS can pick any wild eyed ideologue he likes.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:11am
  - ztev
    
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    Difference is Brash believed all the gibberish he spouted, Trump doesnt
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:15am
    - Morrissey
      
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      Brash BELIEVES Maori are a privileged elite? Come on, now: Brash is a nasty piece of work, but he’s not completely stupid. He’s as cynical as Trump is, but a lot less flamboyant.
      
      And, to give Brash due credit, he doesn’t attack women.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:38am
      - dime
        
        pretty sure maori have more rights that me.
        
        that makes them privileged. what they do with that is their problem.
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:06am
      - GoVege
        
        Morrissey: he’s worse than Trump IMO.
        A pious church-going Christian who was also a serial adulterer and ditcher of wives and children.
        Just like “lays of our Dave” Lange. (Who I think was also a “lay” preacher.)
        
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        February 2, 2018 11:30am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        A pious church-going Christian who was also a serial adulterer and ditcher of wives and children.
        You talking about Cunny again Vaggie?
        
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        February 2, 2018 11:54am
- Fletch
  
  Yup. They are totally deranged.
  
  First, the jobs front. Wednesday morning saw the release of ADP/Moody’s Analytics private payrolls report. New job creation exploded once again under President Trump. Businesses added 234,000 jobs in January versus an expected 185,000. Manufacturing added 12,000 jobs and construction 9,000 new jobs – in a traditionally slow month. WOW.
  
  Secondly, the numbers from Trump’s State of the Union. Fox News had the biggest audience for a State of the Union in the history of cable news. The old record of 6.5 million viewers was smashed by smithereens by Trump with an astonishing 11.7 million viewers. It was also the highest rated presidential address of any kind in the history of cable news.
  
  Now to the reaction from viewers. CBS took an instant YouGov poll. Here are the amazing results.
  
  97 percent of Republican viewers liked Trump’s speech.
  
  72 percent of independents liked it.
  
  Amazingly, 43 percent of Democrats liked it.
  
  Overall 75 percent of Americans approved of the speech. And a shocking 8 out of 10 felt President Trump was trying to unite the nation, rather than divide it. Two-thirds reported the speech made them feel proud.
  
  Which means anyone who isn’t a bitter, nasty, arrogant, hateful, Kool-Aid drinking socialist loved what they saw. Unfortunately, that leaves the entire Democrat Congress.
  
  That’s why I report the Democrat Party committed political suicide on Tuesday night. Their response to Trump’s speech was out of bounds. It wasn’t normal. It was hateful. It was bizarre. Actually, in a word, it was “foreign.” The Democrat Party is now a foreign party in their own country. They no longer have any understanding of what people born in America think or feel.
  
  https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2018/02/01/the-night-the-democrat-party-committed-political-suicide-n2442985
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:46am
- Digmen1
  
  I saw the speech live on Al Jazeera and it was uplifting and very specific in its goals.
  
  Compare it to Obama’s all he ever said was “change”
  
  The MSM have mainly only shown negative reaction to it.
  
  He is making America great again!
  
  Ok he is not perfect, and his adminsitration seems a bit of a train wreck. But he has three or four very good people.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:48am
  - stephieboy
    
    Digmen1 ,
    
    “The MSM have mainly only shown negative reaction to it.”
    Not here ,
    
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/viewers-approve-of-trumps-first-state-of-the-union-address-cbs-news-poll/
    
    Nor here ,
    
    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/01/31/poll-75-percent-of-state-of-the-union-viewers-approved-of-trumps-address/23349441/
    
    “three or four very good people.”
    
    Such as ?
    
    And the rest ?
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:57am
- howitis
  
  Hail to the Chief.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AIAKVst7jw
  
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  February 2, 2018 12:03pm
Morrissey

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
GROPERS
No. 29: Vince McMahon

McMahon, who was 60 years old at the time, bought 20 minutes of tanning in one of the salon’s beds. Before he got on the bed and started to tan, McMahon asked the woman to snap a photo of him with his phone so that he could send it to his girlfriend in New York, she told police.

McMahon was married at the time – as he is now – to Linda McMahon, who was picked by President Donald Trump to head the Small Business Administration.

When the woman handed back the phone to McMahon, he started to show her nude and semi-nude photos of himself, she told police.

….The woman then went into another room to clean a tanning bed. She told police that McMahon followed her into the room and shut the door. She then alleged that McMahon grabbed her and tried to kiss her. She told police she responded by putting her hands on McMahon’s chest in an attempt to push him away. She claimed that McMahon kept groping her. He allegedly touched her waist and butt. McMahon is also alleged to have tried to lift up her button-down shirt while rubbing her breasts with the back side of his arms. McMahon managed to pull her shirt up a few inches above her waist, but she pushed him away and fled the room, according to the police report.

He then told her that ‘he was only trying to have some fun,’ according to the report.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5318995/Vince-McMahon-groped-womans-breasts-butt-2006.html

https://sports.yahoo.com/wwe-boss-vince-mcmahon-sexually-assaulted-woman-2006-according-police-200852896.html

“GROPERS” is presented by GroperWatch®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

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February 2, 2018 8:38am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Fuckwit.
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:49am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    In case folks missed it from last night….
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/general_debate_1_february_2018.html#comment-2129025
    
    Could someone enlighten me?
    Who on Earth is Morrissey?
    Have all the rest of you chaps read his works all over the internet?
    How have I gone 60+ years without ever having encountered his works (apart from recently here on KB)?
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:03am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Google “Morrissey Breen” Maggy. I’m not outing him; he’s already outed himself a number of times.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:09am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Oh my! The freakshow has been banned by most of the internet. DPF needs to work on a dress code.
        
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        February 2, 2018 9:58am
      - Morrissey
        
        Our good friend Rich Prick writes:
        
        Oh my! The freakshow has been banned by most of the internet.
        
        Oooohhh, that’s a bit of an exaggeration, John. I’ve been banned three or four times from posting on The Standard (I’m okay there now, though!) and I’ve been banned for life from Whale Oil‘s cesspit and also by Brian Edwards, who took exception to my reminding him that Paul Holmes was a virulent racist.
        
        https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/nz.general/KabO-WpcG0o
        
        Otherwise, I’m free to think, move, transcribe, dramatize and post, post, post!
        
        DPF needs to work on a dress code.
        
        Oh, I SAY! That is a very good one! Can I use it in a playlet some time?
        
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        February 2, 2018 12:17pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Did you search under his more commonly known name Angry from Mayfair?
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:12am
      - Morrissey
        
        Oh, EXCELLENT, Mr Sack! There’s hope for you yet, my friend.
        
        http://m.memegen.com/hrs5uy.jpg
        
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        February 2, 2018 9:17am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      I want the full details of this little meltdown:
      
      I note that MORRISSEY BREEN has recently posted several messages from
      the computers of this organisation. That is unacceptable, as he was
      banned from these premises in December 2005. It seems he inveigled one
      of our younger and more naïve secretaries to let him have access to
      her computer; this was soon detected and Breen was escorted from the
      premises, but not before he had sent a few messages this afternoon.
      
      The Mic is literally yours Morrissey Breen
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:16am
      - Morrissey
        
        That’s all in the past, Mr. Sack. We’ve since kissed and made up, so to speak.
        
        (That 2005 Xmas party is best consigned to the dustbin of history, methinks.)
        
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        February 2, 2018 9:33am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      I just google searched ‘Morrissey Breen’. 6 pages of him pretending to be super clever on the likes of TuMeke, Brian Edwards, The Daily Flush, etc. I couldn’t be bothered searching ‘Morrissey’ because then I would have to sift through awful fanfic of that vastly over rated artist by the same name.
      Why do we always end up with the nutcases?
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:56am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Txs ABS…
        
        as fate would have it… the rains have arrived, the T has dropped and I’ve got a few million trees to get ready for planting day….
        I may not have time to check your research…. It all seems so Yesterday, anyway.
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:12am
    - realityczech
      
      People like Morrie keep KB alive. No one takes much interest in echo chambers filled with daily circle jerks of bigoted halfwits.
      
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      February 2, 2018 12:25pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Thank you for those lovely words, my friend. Your “czech” is in the mail.
        
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        February 2, 2018 12:37pm
    - Jack5
      
      What I’d like to know about Morrissey Breen is the background to his screeds of transcripts of NZ radio chatter.
      
      What’s driving you in this activity, Morrissey?
      
      Are you looking for code which will reveal that one of the radio ranters is a shape shifter?
      
      Blog addiction is bad enough without being overlaid with radio addiction.
      
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      February 2, 2018 1:30pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Yes, Jack, you’re onto me.
        
        I’m a goddam’ mess.
        
        Gotta sort out my life.
        
        Gotta get down to the gym.
        
        Gotta.
        
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        February 2, 2018 5:02pm
      - MH
        
        I was alone, I took a ride
        I didn’t know what I would find there
        Another road where maybe I
        Could see another kind of mind there
        Ooh, then I suddenly see you
        Ooh, did I tell you I need you
        Every single day of my life
        You didn’t run, you didn’t hide
        And had you gone, you knew in time
        We’d meet again for I had told you
        Ooh, you were meant to be near me
        Ooh, and I want you to hear me
        Say we’ll be together every day
        Got to get you into my life
        What can I do, what can I be
        When I’m with you I want to stay there
        If I’m true I’ll never leave
        And if I do I know the way there
        Ooh, then I suddenly see you
        Ooh, did I tell you I need you
        Every single day of my life
        Got to get you into my life
        I was alone, I took a ride
        I didn’t know what I would find there
        Another road where maybe I
        Could see another kind of mind there
        Ooh, then I suddenly see you
        Ooh, did I tell you I need you
        Every single day
        
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        February 2, 2018 5:33pm
  - Morrissey
    
    I agree, Cap’n. Why didn’t he just hire a prostitute, like Prince Harry does?
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:14am
    - igm
      
      At least he wouldn’t hire little boys! The Labour way.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:40am
      - realityczech
        
        “At least he wouldn’t hire little boys! The Labour way.”
        
        Take that back !
        
        Labour don’t “hire” little boys. They lure them back to their homes, get them drunk, and rape them.
        
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        February 2, 2018 12:30pm
    - Harkman
      
      Morri are you calling Meghan a prostitute? Do Black Lives not matter to you? You racist.
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:26am
    - realityczech
      
      “Why didn’t he just hire a prostitute, like Prince Harry does?”
      
      Morrie why not just rape someone like Clinton’s supporters do? The cheap pricks won’t even splash out on a hooker, even with all those bribes from bankers and the Russians.
      
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      February 2, 2018 12:28pm
  - G152
    
    And obsessed with it
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:37am
- AgentBallSack
  
  When you said Gropers, for a minute I thought you were talking about Clarke Gaylord. Then I realised he has bigger fish to ‘fry’.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:02am
  - igm
    
    Is Gay Clarkford going to Waitangi or is he scared he may become a target for mud . . . would be the first the weak wimp had ever seen.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:08am
    - Morrissey
      
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      Why would they attack him? Is he on record as a racist? The protestors throw mud not at good guys, but at bigots like Don Brash and this dope….
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBghbtYy6qI
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:24am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        No but he’s a notorious womaniser and sower of wild oats. It’s up to you to investigate him and bring him down. The whole country depends on it. Are you man enough to accept the challenge?
        
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        February 2, 2018 9:31am
      - Morrissey
        
        Thanks for the tip-off, Sack. I’m on the case!
        
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        February 2, 2018 9:34am
      - dime
        
        oh no, you labelled brash a wacist! how will he ever recover lol
        
        “we should all be equal” so so racist.
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:07am
    - Paulus
      
      Of course he is going to Waitangi – somebody else besides Hariwera will have to hold her hand during the conversations.
      Understand he is going with Cindy to meet the Queen and her family shortly whilst our Highness can still fly unless she take her Airforce 767 (if it could get there and back in one piece – it is well known for breaking down).
      What it is to be a male handbag.
      
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      February 2, 2018 1:00pm
- KevOB
  
  The only good groper is one fried in butter and served with chips.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:04am
  - Morrissey
    
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
    
    Oh, that was EXCELLENT!
    
    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/7/77/I_LOVE_IT.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150303175521
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:20am
- mara
  
  Stopped panting and drooling yet Morrissey?
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:27am
  - Morrissey
    
    I haven’t started yet, mara. I’m on my way to the gym, where I’ll certainly be panting, but the drooling depends on whether a certain young fellow gym member will be present today. And no, I will not be pulling her pony tail….
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:30am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Groping and Creeping on women seem to be your raison d’être Morrissey. Exactly how did you inveigle that young woman to access her computer? Was it much of a power struggle? Did you leer at her wantonly beforehand?
      Facts dear sir, that’s all we are interested in!
      
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      February 2, 2018 11:58am
      - Morrissey
        
        All of those things, Sack. But I never pulled her hair or slapped her or called her names or any of those other things that Trump and politicians like him do all the time.
        
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        February 2, 2018 12:20pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Actually, prosecute him, I wouldn’t have a problem with that. It goes past flirtation and involved actual physical assault – not a particularly high grade one as the woman was able to push him off and get away, but in the context, assault.
  
  I think the difference is that some of us believe that such behaviour is reprehensible regardless of who does it. All to many seem to think it is OK as long as the person doing it is of the “right” political persuasion of belongs to some favoured identity group.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:11am
godruelf

Watched question time yesterday and wondering how long Peters is going to be allowed to answer for the PM. Seemed to have a lot to say. I missed Wednesdays installment but would appear that some of his answers from Wednesday were coming back to bite the Govt in the arse. Specifically a comment that all youth caught by the Police would be arrested charged and convicted. Fun times ahead.
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February 2, 2018 8:39am
- Piniwi
  
  Yes godruelf but Mallard lets the old geezer ramble on until he gets to his punch line. Between Mallard and old WP it is looking like a circus while Mallard is being reminded/challenged over his earlier rulings as he changes then constantly.
  
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  February 2, 2018 3:21pm
Inandout

I caught an ad on TV that was supported by Spark, something to do with LGBTCDDT or somesuch, with a gay couple holding a baby. If Spark can spend money on this crap why can’t they stop me getting flooded with email spam every morning?
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February 2, 2018 8:53am
- AgentBallSack
  
  I am getting it too. I think their customer base has been compromised, this time they can’t blame Yahoo so I guess it will be an Indian call centre team member. Has gone from 8 to 28 spam messages per day. Of course being a big business there is no way they will inform their customers that their data is insecure, we will have to wait 2 years to find that out
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:05am
- Lance
  
  Or answering any technical support call.
  First call back didn’t happen, waited for 3 hours.
  Second did after 5 HOURS!!!!!!!!!
  
  Useless
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:08am
  - G152
    
    Change your ISP. Plenty of alternates with as good if not better service
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:40am
- Dave Mann
  
  Yes, and it would be interesting to see if they are giving money to that degenerate disgusting anal sex orgy that’s going on for the next few days too.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:19am
  - mara
    
    Goff says he thought it was a “fishing” event.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:31am
    - sooty
      
      Ou! He’s lead a sheltered life! NOT. Been around all the alphabet soup in the Labour party, he knows alright. Is this his Len Brown moment in history?
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:05am
- MH
  
  its diet stuff at the moment.
  
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  February 2, 2018 5:38pm
VicParking

The speaker at Question time was a disgrace on Tuesday and went down hill from then on. Labour have taken to hiding poorly (and that’s being nice) performing ministers from Question time and having Twitford and Winston fronting for them.
Both these two, Robbo and the Doctor who’s not a Doctor just rant and rage about the last Government and give no indication on how they will fix the last governments perceived “Fuckups”. Trevor Mallard lives up to his name by allowing Ministers to Duck hard questions by using semantics, and using weasel words to allow them dodge and weave there way through Question time.
The week of the 13th will even be better/worse after the members get back from a week of Troughing.
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February 2, 2018 8:58am
- BeaB
  
  Mallard is even worse than I feared. Like most bullies he loves wielding petty power with his childish giving and taking of supplementary questions.
  He has stifled QT obviously to protect his side. He smirks and shows off and then loses his grasp so starts to stutter and mumble.
  He loves putting down anyone from National and favours Labour, letting them away with any old blather.
  His beard looks ridiculous and scruffy, like an old man who can’t be bothered to shave.
  He has made no comment about ministers like Kelvin Davis and Claire Curran never turning up to answer questions.
  He is shaping up to be even worse than that ghastly Margaret Wilson screeching and losing control.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:21am
  - Harkman
    
    Margaret Wilson, the worst speaker in NZ’s history.
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:28am
    - stephieboy
      
      Harkamn , by what criteria ?
      
      An amputee or a woman ?
      
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      February 2, 2018 12:52pm
- flipper
  
  Absolutely.
  I have seen and met and observed every speaker (Wilson excluded)since and including Roy Jack.
  None have sunk as low as this bearded goat herder.
  Mallard is so biased toward the idiots on his right that the Nats and Seymour should stage a 100 % walk out. And continue the boycott until resolves to reform.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:45am
- Piniwi
  
  Yes VP it seems the only honesty heard from the Government benches was a loud scream from a baby wanting more tit. This occurred while Mallard was yet again on his feet handling another POO (point of order).
  
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  February 2, 2018 3:32pm
Digmen1

Good news that all youth arrested will be charged.

But will they get a meaningful sentence, that will deter others.

Sentences should be three fold
Protect the Public
Punish the offender
Deter others

But Kelvin Davis and Andrew Little seems to want less people in prison.
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February 2, 2018 8:58am
oldpark

Here is another cynical ploy by the Peters” selected” Coalition of Corruption and Confusion.
Lie-bour/green/Peters /mafias,fresh from screwing the fixed income old age pensioners out of their Super increases have come up with another way to screw the whole of NZs taxpayers.
To keep the Two Billion tax grab from smokers and make sure Dairys continue to sell cigarettes,here is the fix.
Most Dairys are been attacked by thieves and relieved off their cigarettes.
Us the taxpayer will be paying the Dairies to have what they call “FOG GUNS” installed to thwart the thieves.
At a cost of Circa $4000 Dollars. Dairy will pay $250 Dollars towards the cost .We as tax payers $3,750.
Overall a nice little perk for the Dairys and a sneaky back door way by the real thieves the Peters “selected “Coalition of Corruption and Confusion.
Talk about legal theft and Coalition craft,this one takes the biscuit.
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February 2, 2018 9:04am
- Digmen1
  
  I agree.
  Why do we need dairies?
  They just sell crap – booze, cigarettes and sugar filled sweets.
  Now if they provided fog guns for every old age pensioner living alone that would be better.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:09am
  - tf78
    
    Forget fog guns, give the dairy owners paintball guns then the police can every easily identify the culprits as they’ll be splattered with paint, it would also be fun for the dairy owners.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:48am
    - sooty
      
      Supply fog guns for the alphabet soup crowd to stick their bottoms in and then it would not hurt so much!
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:10am
- waikatogirl
  
  Why can’t the dairy owners receive a tax reduction but pay the cost of security fog guns over time back to IRD.
  Being a business expense the fog guns are already subject to depreciation.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:29am
- VicParking
  
  The Fog guns will mean we can’t identify the 13 year old culprits, youth crime solved.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:32am
hullkiwi

Came across a piece of mangled NewsHub reporting with video of a noble Lord answering a question & then announcing he would be going to the PM forthwith to tender his resignation. This little episode occurred in the UK House of Lords, when Lord Michael Bates failed to live up to his own standards of noble and courteous behaviour. His crime he was late to the despatch box to answer the question from an opposition member of the Lords. As he left the despatch box there were cries of “no” from Labour lords. This was because of their high regard for Bates, who was seen as a Minister who was renowned for answering questions fully & completely.

I wonder if such practice could ever catch on in the NZ parliament?
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February 2, 2018 9:04am
Manolo

Mad as a snake:
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/maxine-waters-russia-get/

During an anti-Trump tirade at an urban housing event, the California congresswoman went on a stem winder about Russia and the Kremlin’s alleged love for the American president.

“RT, which is Russian television, absolutely interfered with a speech of mine on the floor of Congress and blocked me out for 10 minutes,” she bellowed, as a woman in the audience gasped, “What?!?” “They don’t play. They mean business,” Waters declared.
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February 2, 2018 9:08am
- Inandout
  
  The Dems are a rudderless Party and they are consumed with hate for Trump.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:11am
  - Lance
    
    I don’t favour either Dems or Reps but I have to agree the Dems are utterly without direction and leadership.
    They need to sort this shit out or they are going nowhere.
    
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    February 2, 2018 9:21am
    - sooty
      
      Wrong. They are going home next election!
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:12am
waikatogirl

Cindy and Clarke are off to London to visit the Queen. Queen Elizabeth is hosting a luncheon for new leaders of the Commonwealth countries.
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February 2, 2018 9:09am
- marcw
  
  Will Clarke be allowed to travel overseas, or will the good Judge look the other way and bury it all? It’s not like he can claim to be a professional sportsman.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:14am
  - Inandout
    
    The poms aren’t as choosy about Court sentences as the US is. As far as the Queen goes with Cindy, HM has hosted some of the world’s most despotic leaders, so a language challenged PM with a rooter in tow is minor stuff.
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:15am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Seems that is on the cards marcw. Can’t stand in way and ruin the fairytale by the 1st partner not being able to be presented when Cindy meets the Queen.
    
    Let’s hope Cindy doesn’t show her disdain for Queen Elizabeth as her mentor Hulun did.
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:32am
    - MH
      
      HM is a good judge on horses teeth. I hope she doesn;t have her stay in the Royal mews.
      
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      February 2, 2018 5:45pm
- Gravelroad
  
  How embarrassing for New Zealand to be represented by two such lightweights.
  I hope they don’t ask Her Majesty for Royal baby knitting cast-offs. It’s just the kind of cutesy, entitled thing one of them would say.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:36am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Gravelroad . still spitting tacs and splitting your spleen since 23/09/ 17
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:03am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Hahaha, I was on here way before that Stephie LOL.
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:05am
  - waikatogirl
    
    I do hope Cindy doesn’t take to Twitter to comment on her impression of the Monarch. ?
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:35am
- geoff3012
  
  She can’t go……..I haven’t got my house yet….she promizzed ……
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:37am
- KKKKatee
  
  But doesn’t the PM want to get rid of the Queen and want NZ to become a republic? If the PM has any integrity about her, she would have declined the invitation and sent her Deputy. I mean, she either has principles or she doesn’t.
  The hypocrisy this crazy PM demonstrates is mind-boggling……
  Just hope she doesn’t opt to wear her all time fav ankle boots…..
  Or sling that over-size handbag over her shoulder….
  I guess you can’t fake style and grace – none of which the PM appears to possess….
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:39am
  - dime
    
    i think chompers has a sister in london.
    
    the party scene for gaylord is also pretty good
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:13am
    - Inandout
      
      Oh, I had a vision then of Monica and old Bill when you mentioned Cindy in London.
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:18am
      - VicParking
        
        Bill with go nuts when he gets to meet the fairy and see those chompers
        
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        February 2, 2018 10:36am
    - Paulus
      
      Thought Cindy’s sister with two children, who appear may have married recently, Cindy went, is back in Auckland to give her sister tips on reproduction.
      
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      February 2, 2018 1:07pm
  - stephieboy
    
    KKKKatee,
    
    “But doesn’t the PM want to get rid of the Queen and want NZ to become a republic?”
    
    Is that a fact or mere rhetoric and humbug ?
    
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    February 2, 2018 12:50pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Do you follow politics at all, stephieboy?
      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jacinda-ardern-new-zealand-s-contender-for-pm-says-let-s-lose-the-queen-vszx3q88c
      
      Don’t you know what is going on?
      Can’t you check anything out?
      
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      February 2, 2018 2:20pm
- rangitoto
  
  I hope the Queen is arranging for extra guards to be in attendance given Taxinda’s vicious chompers being present. She hates royalty as well.
  
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  February 2, 2018 3:50pm
JIV

Joseph Sobran said: “‘Need’ now means wanting someone else’s money. ‘Greed’ means wanting to keep your own. ‘Compassion’ is when a politician arranges the transfer.”
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February 2, 2018 9:29am
lastmanstanding

The PMs speech on “fixing poverty” proves yet again the Left dont want to see an end to poverty. Poverty provides them with an excuse to raise more taxes and berate anyone who objects. How could you deny the poor. It also gives them a weapon to attack the Right as they dont care about the poor.

Only 2 things will fix poverty education and employment. And the Left have no interest in implementing either. They want to throw more of the Rights taxes at the problem knowing its not the quantity of income that determines the outcome its the quality of the spending.

There are plenty of strategies to achieve this but the PM did not mention one in her speech. In 10 years time unless we have policies around education and employment the numbers will still be the same or worse.
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February 2, 2018 9:35am
- Digmen1
  
  Yes, we need to hammer this home in the media as best we can all the time.
  Education
  Training
  Trades
  Jobs
  Picking a good partner
  Having children only when you really want them
  
  More money for the “poor” only means more taxes for the workers.
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:44am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Yes they are good “traditional values”, but you will never hear them pass from the lips of a politician in the same sentence or speech.
    
    They are too ” middle class” and do not sit with “the entitled dispossessed” and it is no different to expecting the ToW bandwagon agreeing that the graveyard train has indeed reached the final settlement.
    
    We can’t have politicians and lawyers putting themselves out of jobs after all?
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:16am
  - Lance
    
    I would recommend;
    Having children only when you can afford them, they are very expensive.
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:16am
    - VicParking
      
      An MP’s salary is only going to last three years, if that
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:37am
      - KiWombat
        
        Then it’s back to the fish ‘n chip shop I suppose
        
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        February 2, 2018 2:10pm
- KKKKatee
  
  “It’s not the quantity of income that determines the outcome – it’s the quality of the spending”.
  
  Right on the button there!
  The PM will regret promising to fix poverty.
  It can’t be achieved and she knows it.
  So I agree, that throwing extra money at the poor and needy is not only a wasteful exercise, but an affront to the hardworking taxpayers…..
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:49am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Apparently there is a Liabor Pardy Tweeted last night with a list of 100 days achievements with a tick next to each.
    
    One of those on the list ticked as completed is Poverdy ✔️
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:40am
    - sooty
      
      Must be for Whinny to spend $10mill on a racecourse. Thats a lot of food and motels that could be given out. Must be pay back to Whinnys sponsers.
      
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      February 2, 2018 12:21pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Funny sooty there has been very little heard about how he has been out done by Jackson’s plan to spend $13 million to “make” jobs for the bro’s. This is only in a select area where their numbers are greatest and likely closest to most prisons.
        
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        February 2, 2018 4:01pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      Labour Party caught lying again. They haven’t even started to figure out how to end poverty. They’ll never be able able to eliminate it, not in a thousand years. The PM now has to walk the talk and at some stage let’s hope she has the graciousness to say she got it wrong. She’s digging a bloody big hole for herself, hence the continual shifting of the goal posts. How she can lie straight in bed at night is a mystery……
      
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      February 2, 2018 8:01pm
  - Piniwi
    
    But KKKKatee it changes every day with the Commie Chick since the original promise to eliminate poverdy to a meagre 50% reduction in 10 years.
    This after already loading the cannon to fire massive money bombs at it. Somebody has told her it can’t be “eliminated” before they (A) find out how many (B) the previous Government would have achieved that in only 9 years if the tax cats had not been scrapped and (C) their own very survival is dependent on maintaining a healthy level of unhealthy dependents.
    
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    February 2, 2018 3:57pm
- Piniwi
  
  True lastmanstanding and they have their own means to whittle down opponents of their mayhem. The best and brightest are already starting to leave according to the latest Immigration figures. Then again it might be pensioners since the Super is portable unlike the dole. Pasifika recipients only need to be here 10 years (which can be on the dole) to return home with a full pension.
  
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  February 2, 2018 3:44pm
Manolo

Ancient Pelosi is out of touch with reality:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/300-firms-giving-tax-cut-bonus-costco-dismisses-pelosis-crumbs-attack/article/2647803

The payouts, praised by President Trump, are going to some 3 million employees.

Again on Thursday at a Massachusetts town hall, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi called the bonuses “crumbs.”

Not only are companies crediting Trump in their announcements, one major employer, Costco, disputed Democratic sneers that the bonuses are “crumbs” and hide bigger profits.

During a shareholders meeting this week, Costco chief Craig Jelinek said the attack by Pelosi was not “thoughtful.”
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February 2, 2018 9:46am
- Fletch
  
  Too funny. And people are being surprised by extra money in their pay packets. The reality of tax cuts is beginning to sink in.
  
  So my company issued its first tax cut payroll today, and it’s been hilarious around here.
  
  At first people were calling us here in the IT department in hushed voices.
  
  “Um, did payroll have a glitch or something? Did you, uh, you know, uh get more money than usual?”
  
  No, it’s not a glitch. You got your tax cut today.
  
  “…….I got a tax cut?”
  
  YES! You and everyone else got the tax cut that was passed in December. Congratulations!
  
  It’s taking a bit for the news to get around and sink in. As people are finding out, they are openly talking about how much more they got this week. And now they’re also talking about how well their 401ks are doing.
  
  https://twitter.com/Patriot_Musket/status/956916244451610625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:57am
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch , and GWB’s tax cuts did super wonders for the US economy ?
    
    Now how much in real terms has Trump put into the pockets of his Dust belt supporters ?
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:05am
    - Inandout
      
      You are now sounding like a voice in the wilderness stephie, and as Trump triumphs so will your voice get dimmer. Stay alt left and I shall stay alt right.
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:21am
    - VicParking
      
      Stephie more than the brains in your head
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:39am
  - cha
    
    Just put it on the never-never.
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    The Treasury’s ability to borrow will run out in the first half of March if the debt limit isn’t raised, the Congressional Budget Office predicted Wednesday. That’s earlier than a prior analysis and accounts for the effects of revenue losses from the tax cuts signed by President Donald Trump.
    
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cbo-moves-up-debt-limit-deadline-citing-tax-cut-impact-on-revenue-2018-01-31
    
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    February 2, 2018 12:56pm
ex-golfer

Great column from Kate Hawkesby today:
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/early-edition/opinion/kate-hawkesby-axing-grid-girls-another-sign-of-women-hating-women/

And I hear the child-bride – HDPA – on Newstalk ZB in Wellington giving her unwanted opinion.
As usual she has not bothered to talk to the affected women who are now out of a job that they wanted and enjoyed, just to satisfy the ideological rantings of an unaffected group of (probably jealous) losers. She even went as far as to say she “believed” most of the grid girls are doctors and lawyers doing the grid thing in their spare time (lol) so don’t need the money – which makes a mockery of the argument that they have been forced into it.

Wimen v Women – a war that will never end.
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February 2, 2018 9:47am
- Fletch
  
  I heard that Kate Hawkesby is also the only one brave enough to say that she thinks Prince Harry is being taken for a ride by Meagan Markle.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:01am
  - stephieboy
    
    Prince Harry is being taken for a ride by Meagan Markle.?
    
    What does Kate ( or you for that matter ) think ? As if it matters .
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:07am
    - sooty
      
      Look in the mirror, stuuupid!
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:16am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Meagan Markle’s background will have been scrutinized from every angle. Her suitability will have been assessed and Harry will have been made aware if there are any skeletons in her cupboard. Harry is not a child.
      Best wishes to them both for a happy marriage. It is all anyone can ask of any two people joining in matrimony.
      
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      February 2, 2018 10:47am
    - Harriet
      
      “…..Prince Harry is being taken for a ride by Meagan Markle.?….”
      
      Looking at the latest photos it’s actually Kate that’s been taken for a ride – as she’s the pregnant looking one! 😎
      
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      February 2, 2018 11:24am
  - Digmen1
    
    Meagan could take me for ride anytime!
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:20am
  - Colville
    
    I am sure the ginger prince isnt minding riding Ms Markle either….and its not as tho she is going to get a share of the crown jewels in a divorce settlement…
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:28am
  - lifesgood
    
    And I’m inclined to agree. A trashy american actress seeing only wealth, prestige, fame, glory and a life of idleness. It won’t last, but I’m happy to be proved wrong.
    
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    February 2, 2018 1:47pm
  - Gabby
    
    Meagan wouldn’t want to be the next princess to be taken for a ride. She’ll be a good girl feltch.
    
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    February 2, 2018 2:47pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Kate Hawkesby is married to the shallowest man in New Zealand. That indicates a woeful lack of taste and judgement.
    
    Why would you quote that foolish woman?
    
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    February 2, 2018 5:04pm
- tf78
  
  I think the name Heather Duplicitous Allen has a nice ring to it.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:04am
  - Inandout
    
    Heather Soper sounds better.
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:22am
- waikatogirl
  
  Many grid girls are university students. What’s the problem with women choosing this as employment? They said the work is fun and pays well.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:44am
  - MH
    
    will this mean the end of those Russian “border”girls on KB ?
    
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    February 2, 2018 5:09pm
Biscuit

Just thought you’d all like to know that us folk here in Wellington have survived TV ONE’s latest ‘Storm Of The Year’…

Some wind blew (who’d ever have thunk it, eh? In Wellington of all places!).

Some water fell out of the sky.

A tree or two dropped a branch…
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February 2, 2018 9:57am
- Lance
  
  Had to laugh at a ‘witness’ who could look out over Wellington airport who sent in an email (or some such communique) to ZB.
  “Watched 2 aircraft try and land but had to abandon the attempted landings in each case and fly elsewhere. I could hear the passengers screams as the passed by.”
  LOL
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Just another summer’s day in Wellington.
  
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  February 2, 2018 10:19am
  - Inandout
    
    Wellington is lovely on a nice day. How are Grant and Alf hanging Maggy?
    
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    February 2, 2018 11:17am
  - Harriet
    
    I lived there for a couple of years and after about 2 days of nice weather in Wellington every second local was telling me how great the weather is in Wellington. I never bothered talking politics. It’s there own little world.
    
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    February 2, 2018 11:21am
    - Paulus
      
      I lived in Wellington for 16 years and loved it – it has/had a heart which my 10 years in Auckland never did.
      Retired to Tauranga which I love but cannot go back to Wellington, although family live there still.
      
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      February 2, 2018 1:13pm
JibberJabber

With the Billions of$s handed out to Iwi from all taxpayers in NZ, is there a “journalist” prepared to nut up and ask”why are there Maori homeless?, Why are there Maori children living in poverty?”
Why is this money not making it to those in need?
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February 2, 2018 11:23am
- Harriet
  
  Because if that problem was solved they would then have to talk about white kids needing more money……and that is not what the left want to solve…..they even loath themselves being white.
  
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  February 2, 2018 3:36pm
- Piniwi
  
  Well JJ they have yet to create their native gibberish word for “fair” and “share”. You must also understand what , when and how the term “our’ people is applied. Only used for claims and settlement negotiations but sadly never been allowed to collect any. Even pirates had a better code than the natives likewise if we do/say it we are racist.
  
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  February 2, 2018 4:14pm
Manolo

The Obama effect!
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html

The economy is on track to put up blockbuster growth numbers in the first quarter, according to the latest forecast from the Atlanta Fed.

GDP is expected to surge 5.4% to start 2018, the central bank branch estimated in its latest rolling look at how the economy is progressing.
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February 2, 2018 11:25am
Manolo

Jeepers.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5334815/American-people-turning-against-Trump-hating-celebrities.html

For more evidence of this, look at Sunday night’s Grammys that turned into a marathon political rally of epically dreary proportions: ratings duly plunged 24% to an all-time low.

Why? Because Americans are sick and tired of entertainers preaching about politics at awards shows, particularly when they’re all preaching from the same liberal Trump-loathing handbook.
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February 2, 2018 11:51am
sooty

I see that the Klakenfuhur is busy promoting her video. I can’t be selling well. Be at the warehouse in the $2 bin.
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February 2, 2018 12:16pm
- stigie
  
  At least you could have put up a photo of the promotion sooty..?
  
  https://rdln.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/images.jpg?w=240
  
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  February 2, 2018 12:21pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Piss poor effort in not issuing a parental guide & health warning on that stigie.
    
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    February 2, 2018 12:33pm
    - stigie
      
      If it was the photo shopped one i would have davinci because of the foundation and hazzard substances covering Klarkenfurhur’s face !~
      
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      February 2, 2018 12:58pm
Manolo

Unabashedly emasculated:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/42890261

Grid girls’ will no longer be used by Formula 1 from the start of the 2018 World Championship season.

Sean Bratches, managing director of commercial operations, said the change would be made “so as to be more in tune with our vision for this great sport”.

“While the practice of employing grid girls has been a staple of Formula 1 grands prix for decades, we feel this custom does not resonate with our brand values and clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms,” Bratches added.
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February 2, 2018 12:22pm
Inandout

My wife has received the latest NZ edition of the Australian Wombens Weekly (it was a gift), and our pregnant darling PM is on the cover. There is a highlighted quote on one of the pages that reads ‘there are things I try to keep on Clarke’s shoulders’. The mind boggles at that vision, but surely she can’t mean her teeth?
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February 2, 2018 12:40pm
- thedavincimode
  
  there are things I try to keep on Clarke’s shoulders
  
  OK, I nearly said it but stopped myself just in time.
  
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  February 2, 2018 12:47pm
  - stigie
    
    Of course this is a private matter between Gayford and myself..?
    How fucking cringeworthy !~
    
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    February 2, 2018 1:02pm
    - Poppa
      
      For God’s sake get on with being PM not some model craving attention in Womens mags!
      
      It is embarrassing frankly
      
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      February 2, 2018 1:32pm
      - itstricky
        
        Attention seeking models, not doing their jobs, embarrassing the country.
        
        https://homepaddock.wordpress.com/tag/australian-womens-weekly/
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/89132751/what-we-learnt-from-bill-englishs-splashy-new-womens-weekly-feature
        
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        February 2, 2018 1:52pm
      - Gabby
        
        You should cancel your women’s weekly subscription in protest popper.
        
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        February 2, 2018 2:52pm
      - Digmen1
        
        It is embarrassing, especially as she may be the first leader in the world to have an ilegimate child.
        
        But I don’t not want her anywhere near being PM.
        
        Think of all the conversations she would be having. And all the socialist, pro loser laws she might bring in.
        
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        February 2, 2018 3:26pm
  - Gabby
    
    Dirty little focker are you damingygoat.
    
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    February 2, 2018 2:53pm
    - Harriet
      
      Forget to take your Trycoxagain tablets today Gabby? 😎
      
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      February 2, 2018 3:27pm
      - Inandout
        
        He has, again and again.
        
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        February 2, 2018 4:30pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Poor old Ozzies aren’t getting our Cover version of the Australian Women’s weekly…
  (even tho’ it’s monthly)
  They get to gaze at the lovely Helen Mirren for a whole month at the magazine stands.
  
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  February 2, 2018 3:28pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Well the good thing is that we’re no longer subjected to the cheesy grin of Toni Street and all the rubbish about what she got up to in the holidays with her kids. Arrgh!
    
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    February 2, 2018 8:04pm
- Piniwi
  
  Normal Inandout with her usual reluctance to be honest but we know the Ausie’s can be a bit slow on the uptake.
  
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  February 2, 2018 4:21pm
  - Inandout
    
    Wait until the Ozzies get hold of Clarke’s past. There is a mine of information.
    
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    February 2, 2018 4:33pm
    - sam green
      
      Is there really? Do tell.
      
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      February 2, 2018 8:55pm
    - realityczech
      
      You mean than being the first “ladyman” and prancing around in women underwear?
      
      I wonder if Ardern will let her maid Gayford go so he can marry his boyfriend and she can marry the father of the baby.
      
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      February 2, 2018 9:00pm
      - sam green
        
        Counting the slurs …..2345.
        
        Farrar will be pleased.
        
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        February 2, 2018 11:25pm
Harriet

Fidel Castro’s eldest son has just committed suicide, 68yrs old and a nuclear physicist – Soviet union trained.

Suffered from depression – small button syndrome probably. 😎
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February 2, 2018 4:29pm
- Inandout
  
  Was he Castrated?
  
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  February 2, 2018 4:34pm
- Longknives
  
  “Fidel Castro’s eldest son has just committed suicide”
  
  Surely that can’t be true?
  Jacinda ‘Capitalism has Failed’ Ardern is always shrieking that New Zealand will have zero suicides once be become a Communist/Socialist Paradise…
  
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  February 2, 2018 6:53pm
Harriet

And another thing — cashless cards for the unemployed —- there has been storms in FN Queensland where the phone and internet lines have gone down so businesses can only do cash sales —— the unemployed have been without food for 3 days!

NZ Labour won’t be bringing them in anytime soon. 😎
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February 2, 2018 4:35pm
Inandout

Good God, this freaky white hating leftist is ugly. Male or female?

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/02/socialists-ugly-science/
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February 2, 2018 4:40pm
- Longknives
  
  “Male or female?”
  
  HOW DARE you label them either!!!
  Gender is merely a Social Construct- Don’t you know?
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:02pm
Manolo

Apple’s laughing all the way to the bank:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/02/01/apple-breaks-record-biggest-ever-company-profit-despite-iphone/
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February 2, 2018 5:03pm
MH

poverty is to be graded into deciles 1 – 10.
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February 2, 2018 5:05pm
realityczech

Predictably the fake news networks are using the recent storms and high tides to bolster climate hysteria.

What the “climate scientists” [snigger] actually said is that this is a weather event, combined with a high tide and has nothing to do with global warming. But the fake news networks know warmists are deeply ignorant of science and rely on feeelz.

On the bright side – telling lies about the weather makes a change from lying about Trump and fluffy propaganda articles about the mule toothed communist.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/101013889/ice-fire-storms-and-heat-climate-change-is-now-part-of-our-everyday-lives
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February 2, 2018 5:26pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Prime Minister of Oz urges school leavers not to study for a Law degree unless they really, really, really want to be a lawyer.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-02/malcolm-turnbull-says-too-many-kids-do-law/9387508
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February 2, 2018 5:51pm
- nasska
  
  In 1770, King George asked for a census of all the people in the colonies. This is the actual report, verbatim, that Grafton County, New Hampshire sent to the King:
  
  “Your Royal Majesty, Grafton County, New Hampshire, consists of 1,012 square miles. It contains 6,489 souls most of whom are engaged in agriculture but included in that number are 69 wheelwrights, 8 doctors, 29 blacksmiths, 87 preachers, 20 slaves and 90 students at the new college.
  
  There is not one lawyer, for which fact we take no personal credit but thank the Almighty and Merciful God.”
  
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  February 2, 2018 6:36pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    made my day!!!
    
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    February 2, 2018 7:26pm
  - realityczech
    
    nasska, it is noted there were also no police, which is the main reason lawyers were not needed.
    
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    February 2, 2018 7:35pm
    - Harriet
      
      Another reason is plenty of guns. And the women new how to use them also, unlike today where women would yell and scream if one was to be bought on to their property. They prefer instead to pay loads of insurance and chance their arm they won’t be raped. So much for the sisterhood.
      
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      February 2, 2018 7:42pm
    - nasska
      
      A good lawyer is a treasure & I admit that mine has served me well over the years.
      
      My bitch is that they generate their own employment. They have a knack of getting the nod from Parliament to make sure that everything MUST be run past one of their number. It’s a protection game.
      
      In 2016 NZ (according to the Law Society) had 12100 practising lawyers……that is one for every 383 people. In Auckland they really bleed the plebs….. one for every 299 citizens.
      
      A good criminal lawyer is worth his salt. Ditto for many who specialise in business & commerce. But family law & conveyancing?
      
      One of my heading dogs would have run circles around most of the wankers. 🙂
      
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      February 2, 2018 7:54pm
      - Harriet
        
        “…. My bitch is that they generate their own employment…… family law…..”
        
        In practise they have the best interests of the children and parents at heart……..after the relationship has broken down that is…….councilors, real estate agents, marriage [re]-celebrants, accountants, lawyers, divorce party planners…………it’s an industry……and most of them advertise for business.
        
        In QLD a local family law practise had adverts on the radio constantly reminding people of their legal rights “if they were having relationship problems”[who hasn’t to some degree]……most was to do with money matters like superannuation, houses, boats and cars, and how ‘husbands can get the better of their wifes financially’ – young female voices played the roles of friend looking after ‘worried friend in bad relationship’.
        It’s all about taking other peoples money. They couldn’t give a fuck what happens to the kids.
        
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        February 2, 2018 8:08pm
      - realityczech
        
        “My bitch is that they generate their own employment. ”
        
        Law is generated by politicians. Family law is a great example of many hating hags and beta males getting to make law. Another problem is authoritarian nut jobs have taken over the police and constantly want more and more laws.
        
        The difference is most lawyers are paid privately, while the pigs use our money.
        
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        February 2, 2018 8:27pm
  - mikenmild
    
    How many times have you posted that joke, nasska?
    
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    February 2, 2018 7:51pm
    - nasska
      
      I’ll play Mike. Give me an estimate. 🙂
      
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      February 2, 2018 7:57pm
      - Harriet
        
        ….I’ll play Mike……
        
        68.
        
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        February 2, 2018 8:10pm
    - realityczech
      
      milky has posted 32,209 and every comment has been a joke. Loser.
      
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      February 2, 2018 8:18pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Yeah but you have more accounts Kea so your total number of humorous posts is hard to count, can you confirm how you compare for us?
        
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        February 2, 2018 8:24pm
- Manolo
  
  As if Australia or NZ need any more bloody lawyers!
  
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  February 2, 2018 9:39pm
Hugh Pavletich

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/02/macro-afternoon-354/#comment-3041134

China’s stocks head for biggest weekly decline since 2016 as liquidity crunch spooks investors | South China Morning Post

http://www.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/2131673/hong-kong-china-stocks-brace-more-downdraught
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Chinese Stocks Tumble As Hong Kong Officials Monitor Surge In ATM Withdrawals | Zero Hedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-01/chinese-stocks-tumble-hong-kong-officials-monitor-surge-atm-withdrawals

Chinese stocks are down for the fifth day in a row (something that hasn’t happened since May 2017) with the tech-heavy Shenzhen Composite is now down 5% YTD and the Shanghai Composite is tumbling back towards unchanged … read more via hyperlink above …

Chinese Liquidity Crunch Begins As Stocks Sink: Bankers Begging Friends For Deposits On WeChat | Zero Hedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-01/chinese-liquidity-crunch-begins-stocks-sink-bankers-begging-friends-deposits-wechat

Via ‘Investing In Chinese Stocks’ blog,

Another cyclical slowdown in China looks to be underway…

December’s FAI went negative yoy and now an anecdote pointing to another cash crunch in the banking system. … read more via hyperlink above
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February 2, 2018 8:25pm
- realityczech
  
  Socialist housing:
  
  http://affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/wp-content/uploads/imagessoviet-housing-gabar-2-small.jpg
  
  To be fair on the USSR, our Mule Toothed Communist has not even managed this much. At least they did something.
  
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  February 2, 2018 8:32pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    LIVE | Bitcoin extends freefall as over $50bn is wiped off its value in just a week … UK Telegraph
    
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/02/02/bitcoin-extends-freefall-50bn-wiped-value-just-week/
    
    Over $50bn is wiped off Bitcoin’s value in just a week; plunges 8.2pc overnight
    
    Cryptocurrency market spooked by India’s finance minister warning that the Government will outlaw Bitcoin
    
    Sentiment was also knocked by Facebook banning “deceptive” cryptocurrency adverts
    
    Bitcoin heads towards $8,000, a two-month low
    
    Markets await UK construction sector indicator and US job figures
    
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    February 2, 2018 10:45pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      “The Bubble Has Burst” – Bitcoin Tumbles Below $8,000 As Cryptocarnage Continues | Zero Hedge
      
      https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-02/bubble-crypto-has-burst-bitcoin-slides-below-8000-bloodbath-continues
      
      “Sea Of Red”: Stocks, Futures Plunge Amid Soaring Yields | Zero Hedge
      
      https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-02/sea-red-stocks-futures-tumble-amid-soaring-yields
      
      “There’s No Silver Lining”: Deutsche Bank Tumbles On Abysmal Earnings | Zero Hedge
      
      https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-02/theres-no-silver-lining-deutsche-bank-tumbles-trading-revenue-plunges
      
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      February 3, 2018 2:10am
AgentBallSack

MEMO RELEASED!
As expected it’s damning for the FBI, the DOJ and some very crooked people in the DNC, most likely up to and including Obama himself.

FISA warrants gained to spy on President Elect Trump based on Steele Dossier who was paid $160,000 USD by the DNC to produce the false information in the dossier.

Steele’s words about Trump to Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, a senior DOJ official – he was “desperate that Donald Trump not get elected, and he was passionate about him not being President”. This clear evidence of bias was recorded by Ohr at the time but not included in any of the subsequent Page FISA applications.

During this same period, Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research, paid for by DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS. The Ohrs relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the FISC.

While the FISA application relied on Steeles “past credible reporting on other matters”, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations.

Furthermore Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that NO surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.
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February 3, 2018 7:24am
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Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr later provided the FBI with all his wifes research paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign while concealing their relationship with Fusion GPS and Steele.
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February 3, 2018 7:35am
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The DNC rigs the Democratic Primary Election against Bernie Sanders so Hilliary can win the nomination. Obama’s administration starts to request surveillance on Trump, his family, his transition team, and anyone associated with him. Donna Brazil gives Hilliary the questions to a debate. The DNC pays Christopher Steele to come up with a smear dossier about Trump. The mainstream media releases a taped conversation about Trump talking about grabbing women parts. After all this Trump still wins the General Election.

Obama orders an investigation into Russia meddling in the elections. Obama changes Executive Order 12333 to allow more agencies to have access to surveillance data. The Democratic Party comes up with a scandal that Trump Colluded with Russia to win the election with no evidence or proof. This wild claim is backed up by the mainstream media.

Obama hold overs start unmasking Trump’s transition team and staff members then release the classified information to the mainstream media. Why? Because the DNC and the Obama administration colluded with the intelligence community to thwart Trump’s campaign efforts to get him elected president. All this Russia collusion is an attempt to cover up the fact that the Obama administration, the intelligence community, the DNC, along with the mainstream media used our nations surveillance as a political tool to try to get Hilliary elected President. This makes Watergate look like a kindergarten play. Let that sink in.

This is plainly treason. Americans subverted by their own banana republic government that decides who will take rule, DOJ/Obama/FBI implicated directly. The government proven to subvert all US citizens in an act of treason.
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February 3, 2018 7:44am
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Absolutely brilliant summation !!!
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