General Debate 28 February 2018

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Drop the Maori line, team leader.
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February 28, 2018 8:03am
- hullkiwi
  
  What, as opposed to the boy from TeAtatu?
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:22am
  - VicParking
    
    The two worst liked person rolled into one. Politician and Car Salesman.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:31am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  As was pointed out yesterday, the definition of “Maori” has been modified over time as the merging of races in this country continues. I recall that as late as in the 1970s, 50% was the acceptable level; now it is 1/32nd (just over 3%).
  
  Maybe being Maori is like being cranberry juice: only a small percentage of pure cranberry is sufficient to make the beverage palatable and saleable as “cranberry drink.”
  Only the other hand, being “white” is like apple juice: even 80% apple juice and 20% orange juice and the drink may be marketed as “orange.”
  
  What do you make of all this?
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:23am
  - SGA
    
    I recall that as late as in the 1970s, 50% was the acceptable level.
    
    Says who? Where do you get that figure from?
    
    I grew up in rural NZ in that era, and a good number of those in the Maori community would have been a lot less than 50% ancestry-wise.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:29am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Michael (at 3:26 p.m. yesterday) posted:
      “Do Bridges and Bennett actually refer to themselves as Maori? Up to 1974 one had to have 50% Maori blood to be called a Maori, but after that it became 1/32 which to me is a bit of a joke.”
      
      Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_people) has this to say:
      “Before 1974, the government required documented ancestry to determine the legal definition of “a Māori person”. For example, bloodlines or percentage of Māori ancestry was used to determine whether a person should enroll on the general electoral roll or the separate Māori roll. In 1947, the authorities determined that a man who was five-eighths Māori had improperly voted in the general parliamentary electorate of Raglan.[18]
      
      So, you can see that the trend over time has been towards “self identification” as the test for Maori identity.
      (I expect Kimbo will appear at any moment…)
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:37am
      - SGA
        
        “government required”, “the authorities determined”, isn’t much of a reflection of what Maori thought.
        Have a look at some the photographs of the Maori All Blacks of that era 🙂
        
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        February 28, 2018 8:48am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Simon interviewed by Duncan Garner this morning. Simon was going on about his background and whakapapa. Asked if he thought of himself as a maori or a NZ’er first? Simon replied a NZ’er, but is proud of his maori heritage.
        
        His first car was bought for him by his rich auntie. It was a convertible Mazda. Bet that made him popular out West!
        
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        February 28, 2018 8:49am
      - Kimbo
        
        Yep. A deserved couple of bitch slaps for your deceitfulness below.
        
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        February 28, 2018 8:54am
  - Kimbo
    
    I make of it you are selective, likely even mischievous in your hearing and memory, as it was also pointed out to you yesterday, the Māori self-definition (which is the most important, indeed arguably the only valid one), is that if one has Māori whakapapa/genealogy, then one is entirely Maori. Percentages and fractions, even when implemented in the Pakeha-dominated colonial or assimilationist eras, were alien impositions.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:34am
    - kowtow
      
      Self definition ?
      
      Like Pochahontas Warren .
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:00am
      - Kimbo
        
        No.
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:45am
      - Dave Mann
        
        Or like girl (with a cock)….?
        
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        February 28, 2018 10:11am
    - KevOB
      
      That doesn’t follow Polynesian cultural requirements. Title to property, real and personal, including tribal lands often goes with a title. An interest in tribal lands likewise to a recognised customary claimant. That’s what the Maori Land Court is concerned with. There is a similar Lands & Titles Court is Samoa where genealogies may be recited to show customary rights. These do not necessarily follow parentage.
      
      The Maori political roll has independent qualifications.
      
      A 3% Maori =97 % Pakeha (non-Maori.)
      
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      February 28, 2018 10:42am
      - cmm
        
        Isn’t the whole concept of property title a Pakeha contrivance inflicted during colonialism?
        
        I would have thought that given the high need for defensive structures (all those pa sites), you only owned what you could defend – including land, women and your own liberty.
        
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        February 28, 2018 11:11am
    - cmm
      
      Kimbo: Isn’t the answer, like it so often is: “It depends”.
      
      In casual settings perhaps people can get away with a lot more by self-identifying as being X, but for various official purposes it is as you say: you need to prove linkage to a whakapapa. No whakapapa, not a Maori.
      
      I know that is the case for playing in Maori sports tournaments etc.
      
      For example I know a young hockey playing man (as he is now) who has a European mother and a Maori father. He always wanted to play in the Maori hockey tournament as a boy.
      
      The father refused to acknowledge paternity, therefore no whakapapa and no playing. Bitter disappointment.
      
      Then the boy turned 18. The father acknowledged the paternity. The boy gets whakapapa and plays.
      
      The cynic might put this change of heart down to the father no longer having any child payment obligations, but it might have really been parental pride winning the day.
      
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      February 28, 2018 11:05am
    - Jack5
      
      Do you mean, Kimbo, that Maori couldn’t do fractions?
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:48pm
  - Gabby
    
    People like to think they’re special, okeydokey?
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:36am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Especially when being “special” conveys opportunities and advantages for one’s career in the State sector.
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:43am
      - Gabby
        
        How do the jappers take to heterogeneity okeydokey? Japper civil service stacked with part Koreans? Honda boardroom awash with Manchurian offspring?
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:18am
      - kowtow
        
        Or grants , subsidies, scholarships or special consideration in education.
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:43am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Gabby and kowtow,
        
        I can recommend you read Living Together: Minority People and Disadvantaged Groups in Japan by Miki Y. Ishikida.
        
        Here is a link to portions of the text. (See p. 48 for Korean Permanent Residents in Japan)
        https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=GeY2yzunY98C&pg=PA61&lpg=PA61&dq=Japanese+civil+service+nationality&source=bl&ots=kNMCFTN-v5&sig=c0445DQ3QD0rxysJBC8vsBn3y_c&hl=ja&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwin2_7P-MbZAhUDT7wKHdo6BykQ6AEISzAD#v=onepage&q=Japanese%20civil%20service%20nationality&f=false
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:53am
  - SGA
    
    Only the other hand, being “white” is like apple juice: even 80% apple juice and 20% orange juice and the drink may be marketed as “orange.”
    What do you make of all this?
    
    That historically the “pure breed” white community has less forgiving of those with a “touch of the tar brush”.
    
    Mixed race children of white slave owners were usually still slaves, and I imagine that a child of one of those daughters would still give birth to slaves irrespective of that child’s father.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:44am
    - GoVege
      
      The Southern slavers had a law passed to enslave their own children born to slave women.
      
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      February 28, 2018 10:01am
    - Surely Knott
      
      Hahaha. Lots of focus on the mix of Simon Bridges orange juice. Were the some questions asked of Kelvin Davis.
      
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      February 28, 2018 5:48pm
  - Kimbo
    
    @ Odakyu- sen
    
    Furthermore, as your alleged interest in the matter of who is really Māori was predicated on the insistence that you like “honesty in advertising”, and you then indicated agreement when I took the time to clarify the above definition, I am left pondering if your response was feigned and therefore…dishonest.
    
    Or have I misunderstood what you meant by, “Naruhodo/I see”?
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:50am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      In this context, the “Naruhodo” means that I understand where you are coming from.
      
      Although I don’t agree with your point of view, I sympathize with why you have taken your position.
      
      Let’s agree to disagree.
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:00am
      - Kimbo
        
        Agreed. Thank you. But to clarify, in the first instance it is not pmy position. It is that of Māori themselves, and always has been.
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:45am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Now the Herald is in on the act.
    
    Political Roundup: Who gets to decide if Simon Bridges is ‘Maori enough?’
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12003780
    
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    February 28, 2018 7:41pm
hullkiwi

Shane’s billion dollar fund is having problems. It appears he is giving $350 k to someone under investigation by the SFO. Oh dear, never mind….
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February 28, 2018 8:06am
- Colville
  
  Well as Shane (and NZF) should be under investigation for their links to the fishery industry its probably no worries to them… its only (your) money after all…
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:20am
  - KiWombat
    
    The very word “Politics” is derived from the latin “poli” – meaning many, and “ticks” – meaning blood sucking parasites.
    
    At least Shane is being “honest” – an honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought !
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:14am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Wrong KiW.
      Its derived from the Greek – Polis – meaning city.
      But your explanation has a touch of melodrama. 😉
      
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      February 28, 2018 10:28am
- Gabby
  
  He didn’t know anything about that until he got caught out hulky wee.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:37am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Gobby, Bones & Parked-up promised due diligence in approving these projects. Five days later and the announcement statements are seen for what they are, no more than vacuous hot air.
    Many of the “projects” are nothing more than NZ Last election bribes with others being govt “pipeline” projects.
    $1billion “to invest” & they offered up $61million, that will provide only temporary work at best & some consultancy opportunities.
    
    Not regional economic development at all, as for the tree planting count, he is no better than Twitty Twitford & his KiwiBuild houses!
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:58am
    - KiWombat
      
      One day in the not too distant future we will see the Twit open the first of his affordable homes. They are presently working on 3 duplexes in Westport, so 6 new homes in total
      
      You can fool all of the people all of the time if the advertising is right and the budget is big enough !
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:18am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Yeh, but I thought the housing problem was in Auckland, not the West Coast? So, what is he going to do, ship the duplexes to Auckland? I suppose that’ll will help coastal shipping & give job creation at the Westport dock.
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:47am
      - KiWombat
        
        Right on hulk.
        
        I suppose they’ll record the sod turning somewhere in TeAtatu, but make it look like the West Coast, then the opening will be done from Wellington with another cut & splice job.
        
        Doubt Twitford has ever been to Westport, even when trolling for Oxfam !
        
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        February 28, 2018 1:31pm
- kowtow
  
  That SFO is very busy these days.
  
  The diversity dividend.
  
  “Earlier this month the man at the centre of the fraud case Kang Huang, also known as ‘Gang Wang’ was sentenced to four years and seven months prison after admitting providing false information to acquire fraudulent home loans and to bribing one employee in December.”
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/101762892/group-accused-of-54-million-mortgage-fraud-plead-not-guilty
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:03am
srylands

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/101804848/government-scraps-private-school-scholarship-scheme-for-underprivileged-kids

Perhaps this program could have been better targeted. But as Nikki Kay said, it is silly using a ‘targeting’ justification when you have just spent billions on free Tertiary Education, a move that is regressive.
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February 28, 2018 8:06am
- Rich Prick
  
  Labour hates kids. Especially vulnerable ones who find a way to succeed in life. The teacher unions don’t like them much either.
  
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  February 28, 2018 11:31am
  - MrLovebucket
    
    They want to dumb down the population by scrapping things that work. It’s all about growing their voter base.
    
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    February 28, 2018 2:23pm
mandk

From Golriz Ghahraman Newshub the other day:
“Not a Muslim? Then don’t make assumptions about Islamic culture.”

I wonder if she is now going to tell us we can’t make assumptions about the vile Tayyip Erdogan telling a six-year-old girl the country would honour her if she became a martyr.

Imagine the uproar if a Christian or Jewish leader said something like that.

Islam is a truly evil religion. Let’s keep it out of New Zealand.
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February 28, 2018 8:09am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  “Not originally from New Zealand? Then dont make assumptions about what New Zealanders should think.”
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:12am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    EXACTLY!
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:24am
    - KiWombat
      
      “92% of people who blew themselves up in 2014 were identified as muslims – the remaining 8% were unable to be identified.”
      
      It certainly appears that auto-ignition is a predominantly muslim trait !
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:22am
      - KiWombat
        
        GangGreen’s got a real wild card here.
        
        Wonder how long she will last – suppose it depends on how often you can deposit your foot into mouth, and get away with it !
        
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        February 28, 2018 1:34pm
  - cmm
    
    Heck, even I subscribe to that and I have been in NZ longer than Golly and come from a more compatible culture.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:35am
- Longknives
  
  Becoming a Martyr and getting blown to smithereens is probably preferable to what Muslim men usually do to six year old Girls…
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:16am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Longknives , as European non Muslim men do here ,
    
    “Child rapist Robert Burrett jailed for 19-and-a-half years”
    
    “The shocking case of child rapist school caretaker Robert Burrett has prompted a Ministry of Education investigation into whether all school staff should be subject to the same mandatory reporting that applies to teachers and principals.
    
    School bus driver and caretaker Burrett was today sentenced to 19-and-a-half years in jail with a minimum non-parole period of 10 years at the High Court at Christchurch.
    
    The 64-year-old grandfather admitted 21 abuse charges relating to 12 young victims, including rape, sodomy, forced oral sex, indecent assaults, video-taping of the offending, and watching pornography, often in his underground caretaker’s shed…”.
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11621027
    
    Pretty despicable isn’t , eh ?
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:28am
    - Simon
      
      Muhammad the so called prophet was a paedophile.
      
      An entire religion formed around God supposedly talking to a paedo. Very sick background to Islam.
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:37am
      - igm
        
        Could not be trusted with diseased dogs . . . like followers of Islam today.
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:05am
      - stephieboy
        
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        Simon , he was not by the standards of his time . Western European Kings and nobles did exactly the same kind of thing .Namely betrothed / married to pre pubescent females .
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:05am
      - simpleton1
        
        “Namely betrothed / married to pre pubescent females” to compare to the :-
        Age of gurgling ? This given to be ok today by a righteous’s religion!
        
        Can you speak against the revered Khomeini who bought Iran back to its traditional home?
        
        Can you speak against Mohammad? in how he practiced this with Aisha, and now leads to this current practice.
        
        Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:
        
        “A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby.
        
        However, he should not penetrate.
        
        Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life.
        
        This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister.
        
        It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband’s house rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven.” https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/36138/did-ayatollah-ruhollah-khomeini-the-supreme-leader-of-iran-say-this-about-pedo
        
        Read that whole article in a church/mosque near by.
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:14am
      - KiWombat
        
        My sister was run down and run over by a muslim about five years ago. She was not killed, but was very badly injured. The perpetrator fled, but was identified and captured by the law.
        
        In his statement to police he said “but she was only a woman” as some sort of justification for his actions, and for leaving the scene.
        
        Fortunately the jury did not find that an acceptable excuse for his actions, deliberated for five minutes and found him guilty !
        
        Unfortunately the judge only hit him with a wet bus ticket, and he is now free to do the same again !
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:32am
      - sam green
        
        You are a fibber KiWombat – a storyteller – a liar.
        
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        February 28, 2018 4:54pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Sorry you feel that way Sam.
        
        Try typing the name Abdul Wahid Abass AL MUSILHI (Al Musilhi is the surname) into the ACCR database (Australian Court Criminal Records) and you will get all the information you need to validate this.!
        
        I just did, and there are several other conviction listed there as well. He has been rather busy !
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:58pm
      - Jack5
        
        Kaching! Sam Green.
        
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        February 28, 2018 10:04pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Thanks Jack.
        
        From time to time I do post a piece of creative writing, as I am sure you will have witnessed. Yesterday for example about GangGreen.
        
        They all seem to be accepted with good humour and as good humour.
        
        This one however was very harrowing at the time, and is hardly the sort of thing you would invent. I went to Sydney to support my sister in court and was rather shocked at the content of the police report which was presented in court. I suppose Sam can find that if he chooses to dig that deep !
        
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        February 28, 2018 10:24pm
    - cmm
      
      Yes, that is shocking.
      
      The huge differences are:
      
      1) Behaviour like that is not condoned in Western society.
      2) It is incredibly uncommon for European men to act this way. When they do there is no cultural victim card played. It is not just shrugged off as a “sexual emergency”.
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:39am
      - stephieboy
        
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        cmm,
        
        “Rejecting the Myth of Sanctioned Child Marriage in Islam”
        
        By Dr. David Liepert
        
        “Name one thing Muslims and Christians share? Their level effort pointing fingers elsewhere whenever pedophilia comes up. Catholic priests are an obvious and easy target, but when my 16-year-old daughter raised $26,000 in her high school to combat North America’s growing child-sex-slavery trade, her grandmother complained that she wasn’t doing enough about misogyny and abuse in Somalia, Saudi Arabia and the Sudan. Although she wasn’t very clear how Marley would get there. …”
        
        https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-david-liepert/islamic-pedophelia_b_814332.html
        
        and,
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:14am
      - simpleton1
        
        Just look above, at a well recognized regime leader, and its continuing leaders support in Iran.
        
        Indeed how President Obama supported such men, with his “peace in our time” nuclear agreement, supported with millions of $.
        
        Click and Read the whole link, in your church, to explain the goodness what the ulema understand about Mohammad’s actions with Aisha.
        Jesus wept.
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:25am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Difference is: here we revile those predators, try them in court and lock them away (for now, Little)
      
      There they revere them.
      
      Your “whataboutism” fails again.
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:42am
    - oldpark
      
      @Sharia/girl/boy.
      Sounds like you’re ancient mate Mohammed.Lest you forget.
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:46am
    - MrLovebucket
      
      The difference here is that western culture treats these types as scumbags. Whereas it’s celebrated and encouraged in Muslim culture.
      
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      February 28, 2018 2:37pm
      - GoVege
        
        I see Islam as an unfortunate throwback to our pre-human ancestors.
        Let’s face it….only members of less-advanced species keep harems of females.
        (But at least they don’t genitally mutilate them.)
        Tolerating this primitive excuse for a religion is an embarrassment to the human race IMHO.
        And a danger to our survival.
        
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        February 28, 2018 8:11pm
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy ,what do you think of the filthy muslim male sexual abuse known as thighing ,where a grown man can have a small girl sitting on his knee rubbing his penis on her private parts,this is accepted and reasonably common in muslim countries as long as there is no actual penetration,FFS what filthy culture allows this child rape to continue? ill tell you ,islamic culture .
      
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      February 28, 2018 3:11pm
  - Liberty
    
    Longknives
    “Muslim men usually do to six year old Girls”
    That is an over the top generalisation
    That carries about as much credence as that claim by some silly bitch
    A few years ago “all men are rapist”
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:01am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Same as the “all AR-15s must be banned” generalisation.
      
      Oh that’s right, it’s ok when the Left do it.
      
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      February 28, 2018 11:19am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes I saw that.
  Islam truly is evil
  And Turkey under Erogan is fast moving to an islamic state.
  
  Kemal Attaturk would be turning in his grave.
  Time to chuck them out of Nato.
  And how do they get off invading Afrin!
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:17am
  - simpleton1
    
    Sad to see how Erdogan is shifting Turkey
    Kemal Ataturk
    
    ….these rules and theories [regarding civil and criminal law] of an Arab Shaikh and the interpretations of generations of lazy and good-for-nothing priests have decided the civil and criminal law of Turkey….
    ….his thoughts-even his most intimate habits. This theology of an immoral Arab [presented as Islam] is a dead thing. https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/2p6rrl/thoughts_on_islam_by_mustafa_kemal_ataturk/
    
    and some here support that “moderate islam” but Erdogan rejects this
    
    “The term ‘moderate Islam’ is being lathered up again. The patent of moderate Islam belongs to the West. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam; Islam is one. The aim of using such terms is to weaken Islam,” Erdogan said in Ankara. https://www.rt.com/news/409532-erdogan-rejects-moderate-islam/
    
    So we can see what the wise and accepted words of the ulema, that can be preached by imams today around the world. Some may “moderate” but it is not really to be accepted.
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:32am
    - GoVege
      
      The moderate Muslims are the first ones to get murdered by the hard-line ones.
      
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      February 28, 2018 11:25pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “Islam is a truly evil religion.”
  
  “Islam is a truly evil political belief system.” There, fixed it for you.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:25am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Odakyu-sen , which the POTUS appears oblivious too with his sate visits to Saudi and Gulf states .
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:30am
  - Manolo
    
    Allow me to add: And a cancer on humanity!
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:40am
- Inandout
  
  Interesting she uses the term ‘Islamic culture’, almost as though Islam is a race. Should she not have said the Islamic religion?
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:10am
  - GoVege
    
    She’s obviously a moron.
    I doubt if she knows the difference.
    
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    February 28, 2018 11:20am
MCos

If this years census is to be believed I wouldn’t be surprised if our population doesn’t drop well below four million.
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February 28, 2018 8:09am
- mandk
  
  I agree. Stats NZ is going to have incredible difficulty getting anywhere near a complete response. At least not with extremely intensive follow up.
  
  Sending people letters won’t do. Large sections of the population don’t bother to check their mailbox any more.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:16am
  - peterwn
    
    Statistics will still have people going door to door. There will be no problem is Statistics predicted reasonably accurately the likely portion of those requiring intensive follow-up. If they seriously under-predicted this then there would be a problem. If they over-predicted those who would do returns via internet, it would mean that there would be more paper forms to process but that is manageable.
    My criticism of the on-line census process is it does not seem to be reviewable. If you submit and then realise you have given a dud answer you do not seem to be able to correct it. Compare with IRD’s online IR3 form where you can save an incomplete return if short of information etc, and can review it as much as needed before pressing the big button.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:07am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Peterwn, Census NZ or whatever they call themselves is advertising there will not be the usual knock at the door during this survey. The mailout informs the householder of how to access the online survey, or you may contact Census NZ for a hard copy to complete and post back. Apparently they consider everyone is diligent enough to follow their instructions, that’s if they even bother to read the mailout in the first place.
      
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      February 28, 2018 12:41pm
      - peterwn
        
        I think you will find that those who have not responded by 6 March will be getting a knock on the door with forms being handed out in the usual way. Statistics Department (who run the census) would have given some thought to the number of households requiring a follow-up. They would in particular be following up hotels, motels and similar places.
        
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        February 28, 2018 4:14pm
- holysheet
  
  But you are not being truly posadive. If as you suggest the population drops, at least on paper, then the comrades will have a yet another conversation and decide the figures are wrong and wait until the next one in 4 years.
  After all, nobody does bullshit with figures more then the left.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:17am
  - VicParking
    
    They will be very quick to come out to tell us the number of people who live in a cold mouldy home
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:38am
  - Gabby
    
    Who’s the dumbarse minister who made the decision wholly shit.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:44am
    - GazzaW
      
      The Hon James Shaw, Minister of Statistics.
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:28pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Census question:
  
  Which language do you speak most daily ?
  English – less than four million.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:25am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    If “Kiwi” = “English most spoken language daily” AND there has been high levels of non-English-speaker immigration AND high levels of Kiwi migration, then it is possible that the “Kiwi” population will show a decline in the new census.
    
    I will be interested to see the demographic analysis of the group that claims to mostly speak Te Reo in daily life.
    
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    February 28, 2018 11:00am
- kowtow
  
  If the media are to be believed Russian hackers will be determining the outcome.
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:46am
oldpark

Meanwhile across town in the lair of the wee self appointed Dictator Peters, another selection was taking place.
His faithfull running mate called Ron “skid”Mark got the bums rush for wearing some war medals classed as not being appropiate for Marks alleged war service.
The real reason was Ron was taking too much attention away from the “Narcissistic Sociopath “and his boss Winston Peters.Like all dictators ,Peters got rid of his competition.
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February 28, 2018 8:09am
- Paulus
  
  Does the little Bald one lose his Ministerial role as Defence Minister to his party replacement Toblerone
  somebody ?
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:20am
  - G152
    
    Oh I think peters is leaving him that bauble.
    One wonders as to is this the reason for the waka jumping legislation…..
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:29am
  - tf78
    
    No apparently he will be so busy with the defence roll he wouldn’t have time to be 2ic.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:02am
  - GazzaW
    
    No. They will still need to keep a booster seat in the Ministerial limo.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:30pm
Happychappy

So the pox of a journalist Barely Sober again doing Winstons dirty work by preaching National have given up hope of winning the 2020 General Election. This excuse for a journalist should be asking how Winston First is going to survive in 2020 with polls having him a just over 3% and falling instead of being a mouth piece in Winstons hate game.
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February 28, 2018 8:12am
- waikatogirl
  
  Replacing the older Ron with the young, good-looking, well educated Fletcher Tabuleau is all part of Winnie’s cunning plan to reinvigorate NZF. All smoke and mirrors as is usual with Winnie – a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel!
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:20am
  - KKKKatee
    
    One could accuse Peters of practising ‘ageism’.
    Now if Marks was an older woman replaced by a young woman, then the SJW’s would have hit the keyboards by now in defence of their sisters.
    Just saying….
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:10am
- Paulus
  
  Barely Sober is no better than his master Peters.
  Both overblown sick, geriatric, drunken, heavily medicated, so called men.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:21am
- flipper
  
  yep …
  and right on cue the doyen of sage political observers, Hawkesby, pronounces Ardern over Bridges in 2020 …..
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:28am
  - KKKKatee
    
    But the PM won’t be there in 2020. She’ll be long gone. The soothsayers – Hawkesby and Soper aren’t very insightful are they?
    They’ve forgotten that Ardern did say that she had no intention of being the PM for a long time – only there for a good time. Well, of course, having a baby has changed things on her radar rather significantly one would’ve thought.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:52am
- GazzaW
  
  What Soper has completely overlooked in his haste to dismiss National’s chances in 2020 is the total ineptness of the CoL. By 2019 middle NZ will be beside themselves with frustration at the current ‘Government’.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:41am
Poppa

Toy soldier will not be happy
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February 28, 2018 8:12am
- DigNap15
  
  He always reminds me of ET.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:26am
  - cmm
    
    Except ET fucked off of his own accord.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:50am
- Jack5
  
  “Toy soldier” – that ain’t fair. We’ve discussed that on Kiwiblog before, and one of the contributors was a person served under him.
  
  If you want to slate Marks’ military record, it might be appropriate to give at least hint of your own military record.
  
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  February 28, 2018 10:07pm
mandk

On another matter, the PM seems to think that you can build decent apartments for $350k.

Has she seen the price of new build apartments in Auckland and Wellington?
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February 28, 2018 8:13am
- Colville
  
  easy to build an appartment for $350K…
  
  as long as its somewhere like Patea…
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:24am
  - mandk
    
    I think you could get closer to Auckland than that.
    
    Taumarunui perhaps.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:33am
    - Colville
      
      Taumarunui …. wow…. now THAT is one rainy shit hole!
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:07am
      - KiWombat
        
        No – not even in the North Island !
        
        They are actually starting in Westport.
        
        3 duplexes – 6 homes in total.
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:37am
  - flipper
    
    In the US there are many companies that convert 40’m steel shipping containers into mini houses. From the TV pix they look pretty good and all for less than $US150000 (partially furnished). We have plenty (containers) here, but getting approval …….
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:23am
    - marcw
      
      There is a shortage of cheap containers here – they are snapped up by the LTSA as rockfall protection along SH1 as they progress the repairs in Kaikoura.
      
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      February 28, 2018 12:09pm
      - Paulus
        
        Not if you look in Tauranga – with so much spare land the Ports rent out space to hundreds if not many thousand of empty containers.
        Good income for empty space.
        
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        February 28, 2018 1:47pm
    - simpleton1
      
      Approval ? ?
      There are no foundations so it is nothing to do with building permits. Far safer in an earth quake.
      If concerned just secure with some well dug then concreted in poles if concerned about wind.
      
      Electricity, well a private company subbing for a lines company can rig that up.
      
      Communications, modern these days with cell phones.
      
      Water, well Penny gets around that, with an angle grinder. Or a nearby water tank with a hose running dripping into it. 🙂
      
      Sewerage is the rub, or as some seem to do, into the storm water system.
      Then again there are supposed good approved ‘compost toilets’ that is supposedly good for gardens.
      Then all other water is “grey water” that can be used for watering the flowers, gardens and lawns.
      
      Just needs an invasion of containers, before regulatory authorities catch up with their fees, levies, uniform rate charges etc. plus job-worth tick box inspectors.
      
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      February 28, 2018 2:13pm
- KKKKatee
  
  The PM’ way out of her depth.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:30am
  - sooty
    
    The waters certainly over her ankle boots.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:26am
- hullkiwi
  
  She could try the failing Saba on Fanshawe $499k for a one bed apartment, or the slow builds in Albany. $350k, shows she is out of touch in Fairy Land.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:31am
- fernglas
  
  We have the builders in (I know, it’s one of those Arab curses coming true) and they are just cracking up at the notion that the Government can build houses for even $600k, and based on what the bastards are charging us for basically tarting up the lavatory, I can see the humour in it. If the minimum household income needed to afford such a home is $144,000, then Labour will never get the houses to people who need them. Isn’t it time just to grit our teeth, bulk buy kitset houses from China and bring in Chinese gangs to put them up? And as a first step, kick the self-serving Councils in their collective balls and get them to speedily free up land.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:31am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    It will the houses and the trees that brings the government down in 2020. Young people promised affordable houses parents and grand parents of young people will turn on the government for promising and not delivering.
    
    You cant hide not building houses. The facts will be there.
    
    These people will be very angry. The gloss will have worn off Cindy ( if shes still there which I doubt) and the replacement whoever it is will face the wrath of the people.
    
    In addition expect death duties and gift duties to shore up the finances. This will further enrage the citizens as the young will see their inheritance in the form of the baby boomers houses taken away from them having the sell the house to pay the death duties.
    
    In short the government will run out of money by mid 2019.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:08am
- cmm
  
  It is a basic failing of socialist thinking. You cannot put low productivity people in $600k houses and make that work.
  
  The world over, the average dwelling is more akin to a shipping container or a garage. Maybe you can even stretch to a soviet-style concrete apartment block.
  
  However, the entitlement that has been encouraged by the NZ lefties is setting an expectation of an upper-middle-class dwelling for everyone – not going to happen any time soon.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:56am
  - Sideoiler
    
    However, the entitlement that has been encouraged by the NZ lefties is setting an expectation of an upper-middle-class dwelling for everyone – not going to happen any time soon.
    
    I think you will find it is already happening,
    Some of the most recently completed state housing have ensuite bathrooms.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:17am
    - cmm
      
      I’ve lived in NZ for over 25 years now. I have never lived in a double glazed house and only had a heat pump for a third of that. I lived in a tent for about 4 months – no worries.
      
      But our poor homeless people need a double glazed house with heat pumps. Must be allergic to pull overs!
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:27am
    - jcuk
      
      What wrong with ensuite bathrooms? Now I am mobility challenged and living in one room I have ensuite bathroom and it is very handy in the middle of the night rather than having to struggle down the hall or have a pottie under the bed.
      Stop cringing Sideoiler at progress in house design.
      I am also double glazed thoughout my small home.
      But of course I know I am a rich prick even though income below what the university egg-heads call poverty.
      
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      February 28, 2018 10:38am
      - Sideoiler
        
        Stop cringing Sideoiler at progress in house design
        
        It is not the progress of house design I have a problem with jcuk.
        
        The problem is the sense of entitlement!
        There is nothing wrong with ensuite bathrooms.
        
        Why hard working taxpayers should have to provide them for people who cant controll their fertility, make poor life choices and view the
        home that the state provides them as theirs for life is a mystery.
        
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        February 28, 2018 11:36am
      - marcw
        
        There is nothing wrong with ensuite bathrooms jcuk, what is wrong is the expectation of them as a necessity for low cost housing. Yes, for some people like maybe yourself, they are a blessing, but you could hardly believe that 99% of our population who are desperately seeking affordable homes would turn down a place without one?
        
        Will not having an ensuite be the next measure of poverdy or material deprivadion?
        
        Will landlords be expected to provide one for the new rental WOF?
        
        Will homeless living in cars count the boot as the ensuite?
        
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        February 28, 2018 12:19pm
- oldpark
  
  She also said in the 50s people lived in 70sm houses. Sounds like she wants a re-run of tiny houses. Big enough for media fuelled sycophants and serfs.
  Not forgetting she sounds like Maria Antonette. Telling the peasants to eat cake.
  Especially when “Commie Chic” Comrade Ardern lives in a huge mansion in Auckland.
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:18am
  - jcuk
    
    What a stupid stance to take ….fueled by the grossly exagerated needs of the current generation when we see photos of Chinese families living in one room which is the other end and equally bad end of the equation.
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:47am
- KevOB
  
  Apartments for young families?
  
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  February 28, 2018 10:57am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Cindy said the apartments with green space surrounding them, where she lived when she moved to Auckland, were quite adequate for the families who lived there. She said that’s the sort of suitable housing we’re talking about.
    
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    February 28, 2018 12:54pm
- MrLovebucket
  
  You can build apartments for $350k. It’s just they will only be 20mtrs sq.
  
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  February 28, 2018 2:53pm
tom1980

The lucky author who gets to write Winston’s posthumous biography will need a strong stomach and an ample supply of biohazard suits, such will be the epic quantities of sh** to wade through. Should be a fascinating read though and sell like hotcakes. So, New Zealand publishers and authors, which of you wants to make an easy few million?
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February 28, 2018 8:15am
- holysheet
  
  And end up in the $2 bin at the warehouse. Remember those other best sellers by Hager?
  Saw them in the $2 bin discounted to 50c.
  Oh the shame. Next they will be paying us to take them away.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:21am
  - peterwn
    
    I suspect he sold sufficient copies for the titles to make a modest profit. He is financially secure so can bear publishing risks himself. Remember the Golden Rule – “he who has the gold makes the rules”.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:20am
    - cmm
      
      I wonder whether he did sell enough copies to keep food on the table.
      
      RNZ hired him on as a researcher in their Great Panama Papers investigation. No doubt that was an opportunity to shower him in koha.
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:29am
- peterwn
  
  There are enough people who will write them as long a publisher or some other party puts up the money and/or underwrites it. If Winston wants one he could soon pay to have one written. It would be interesting to know if an independent publisher thinks such a biography would be profitable. Getting access to his papers could be an issue since someone or the estate may not give the biographer access to the papers unless reasonably sure the biography would be unfavourable.
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:17am
  - tom1980
    
    He could pay for one but whether anyone will be interested in reading a hagiography is another matter. The money will be in a properly researched (with plenty of OIA requests) book that spills all the beans. Perhaps everyone involved will need to be well lawyered-up, but I doubt many people will bother to defend ol’ Winny after he’s popped off…
    
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    February 28, 2018 12:52pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Careful, Winston would return from the grave to sue.?
    
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    February 28, 2018 12:56pm
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      S-bends usually only go in one direction 😉
      
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      February 28, 2018 1:06pm
Paulus

The National Party are fortunate that they have the breadth of talent in that five people put their names forward as leader, unsullied by the Unions.
Any one would have been good but Simon Bridges (not my personal choice) suceeded in the election by his Caucus colleagues and has my full support.
What was apparent yesterday was to see our next Prime Minister and his wife, people who dressed like people who did not arrive from the possible Pot smoking Commune with clothes from the op shop.
Natalie Bridges, mother of three young children, has her own business in Tauranga.
She looked the picture of our future with her husband.
Of course the media have done the usual anti National at any cost fawning to the indomitable wonders of Cinderella – she should contact Metiria who at least besides also being a liar and cheat knew how to dress expensively (not on $500,000 a year).
Nationals problem is that they have considerable real talent and it is now to use it. I still want Joyce in Finance with a good alternative which are available.
Glad it is over and now they can get down to the role of opposition – that is to Oppose.
Despite the Media Party.
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February 28, 2018 8:17am
- calendar girl
  
  Not my choice, either, but I’m right behind the comments that you express so well.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:25am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Putting the fawning aside … it seems what you are saying is “Different face but otherwise steady as she goes? ”
  
  Which is really the problem imo.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:28am
  - Paulus
    
    Why not exercise a steady as you go policy – New Zealand has thrive for many years successfully, as any intelligent overseas commentator has attested, with this as an underlying political philosophy – certainly since the Lange era.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:32am
- KKKKatee
  
  Simon and Natalie Bridges are a ‘power’ couple. Stand them beside the PM and the BF, and you will easily discern of the two, which couple has far more going for it. And it isn’t the PM and her BF. They (the PM and her BF)look like a couple of toe rags in comparison. Natalie Bridges background in PR and her Oxford University degree makes the PM’s Communications degree from Waikato look like tiddly winks. Even the Herald are extolling the virtues of Natalie Bridges. I’m sure Natalie has some useful professional advice to her husband on public relations , unlike Gayford who appears to only know how to fish and make out he’s a very important celebrity. I know who I would prefer to represent NZ on the world stage, and it isn’t Ardern and her BF.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:42am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Being the over grown teenagers that they are, I think you mean “her FB”.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:11am
  - Duxton
    
    Agreed.
    
    Of course, if it turned out that Natalie Bridges was a cocaine snorter, the Media Party would be all over it.
    
    Unlike…..well, never mind.
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:13am
    - GazzaW
      
      The smut squad will be digging as we speak.
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:42pm
      - sam green
        
        But CT work for National….
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:38pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      Yes, we all know who you are alluding to but, for some reason, the MSM don’t want to run that story. Funny that. Reeks of connections in high places.
      Now, if it was someone from the National Party and their other half got up to mischief, they’d hunt the bugger down and run him/her out of town…..
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:04pm
      - sam green
        
        Evidence? Aside from the voices in your head.
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:41pm
      - sam green
        
        Why don’t you make something out of this:
        
        https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/351473/hearing-shrouded-in-secrecy-at-high-court-in-wgtn
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:49pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Agreed, He wasn’t my choice but in a democracy you don’t always get what you want so accept the outcome, stop whining and pull together to give the COL a hard time and win the election in 2020.
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:15am
  - flipper
    
    Alex ….
    Quite so !
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:28am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Agree AM.
    Add to that he has presented himself well in the post-vote interviews IMO with a clear and consistent message.
    Not my choice, but I am willing to be pleasantly surprised.
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:11am
- Nostalgia-NZ
  
  And you think middle NZ is ‘deeply religious?’ Pleased to give him the opportunity but don’t know that a ‘connection’ to the younger voters is through the Church. It was an older ‘conservative’ NP that endorsed him. Like others here I didn’t realise how conservative he was. On the other hand he hasn’t been pushy in the past about his conservativism so maybe that won’t reveal itself except on particular issues as was the case with Bill. I note by the poll DPF put up last night that KB were right out of touch with the NP, a total disconnect over who should be leader. I now wonder how ‘refreshing’ it will be in the future to have a leader who embraces himself as Maori on a blog that calls Maori ‘special people.’ It’s all looking a bit complicated and still appears to be the ‘finding someone to match Jacinda’ try hard.
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:26am
- KevOB
  
  Simon’s real test test will be how he allocates portfolios and controls caucus. It takes courage to let Ministers loose. If he did the Government could crumble.
  
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  February 28, 2018 11:02am
  - peterwn
    
    And the number one prerequisite is to have the support of Caucus. There would have been a real problem if the leader was selected by a panel made up of representatives of the Board, representatives of major donors and a minority representative of MP’s.
    Any who are disenchanted with the leadership decision and cannot get used to it are better off to walk (at a time not to cause problems). There are plenty of others out there who want to be National MP’s. They can easily find alternative employment (or they would not be National MP’s to start with).
    I do hope that at the start of each Caucus Meeting they recite the mantra ‘the overarching objective of a political party is to get into power or if in power to stay in power’. Also a MP should give a brief ‘thought’ at the end of the meeting as happens at Rotary Clubs (or at least the one where I have been a guest now and again).
    
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    February 28, 2018 4:30pm
DigNap15

Lay off my plastic bags! and straws
I re-use them, I don’t litter.
Blame the ferals for the litter.
And blame all the people in Asia that fill their rivers with them.
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February 28, 2018 8:19am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Helen Clark is behind this bullshit.
  
  It’s just another “Oh look! A squirrel!” distraction tactic, to obfuscate from Labour’s over-promising/ under-delivering issues.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:31am
- G152
  
  I noticed the outraged ‘plastic pickers up’ didn’t have remains from plastic bags but they had the pre extruder ‘beads’ that they were waving handfuls about.
  They want to be taken seriously they should actually use fact in their ‘interview’
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:35am
- waikatogirl
  
  Definitely agree DigNap15.
  It is just virtue signalling.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:39am
  - KevOB
    
    It’s a typical well executed PR stunt. Labour have an underground team to push for them. National needs to attack that.
    
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    February 28, 2018 11:06am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Yesterday Duncan Garner interviewed Hulun Clark by phone on her involvement in the get rid of plastic bag crusade. All was going well until he asked her why her govt of 9 years hadn’t done anything about getting rid of them. After obfuscating for a few seconds, Hulun suddenly had an urgent conversation with a person in the room with her and refused to return to the interview.
      ? ? ?
      
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      February 28, 2018 1:03pm
    - kowtow
      
      The “news” obliged with angles filmed to make it look like there was more than a few soap dodgers there.
      
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      February 28, 2018 2:19pm
      - sam green
        
        So……. people who have opinions about pollution don’t wash – that’s your argument?
        
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        February 28, 2018 4:58pm
- Longknives
  
  Do The Left really think they are going to save the freaking Planet by stopping the Lone Star from serving straws with their Kiddie’s drinks??
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/101809489/menu-photo-of-drink-with-eight-plastic-straws-a-marketing-fail
  
  Most of the World’s Pollution comes from Asia and Africa you Lefty Bellends! NOT Lone Star Newmarket…
  
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  February 28, 2018 10:07am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I’m surprised the virtue signalers missed the fact that a kid should not be drinking that junk through a straw or any other way.
    Will no one think of the children?
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:14am
- Inandout
  
  Look ahead to when supermarkets stop supplying plastic bags. A shopper has a trolley full of groceries and forgets the reusable bags which they will need to purchase at the counter, or go to their vehicle with frozens happily melting. Supermarkets have problems at present with thieves deliberately not scanning certain items, done with such dexterity that even the CCTV won’t pick it up. Cue to reusable bags with false compartments and there are problems for checkout operators, especially on holiday rush time.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/99945432/reusable-bags-making-it-easier-for-people-to-steal-from-supermarkets
  
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  February 28, 2018 11:09am
hullkiwi

Another piece of news that slipped under the radar yesterday. Cindy has bought herself a fight with some who “suffered institutional abuse” & are “survivors of abuse” at Catholic Boys schools from 1950 to 1999.
Yesterday, Red Radio reported the cases of a father & son who apparently suffered abuse at 2 different Catholic Schools. As reported, Cindy was silly enough to set a time bomb for herself 5 years ago, in that in 2013 the father wrote to her seeking support, she wrote back promising Labour would set up a full enquiry into such matters. Five years on, her Royal Commission isn’t allowed to look into abuse in Church (or other non-state institutions unless the state was responsible for putting the child there in the first place).
The best part was Cindy being interviewed as to way she set up the Royal Commission with the limited ToR. It was pure gold, and was revealing in how out of her depth she is.
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February 28, 2018 8:20am
- Paulus
  
  Cindy would let is know that she is above such matters as the Catholic abusers she was brought up as a Mormon.
  Perhaps the Catholics have a large say in such matters – they are very powerful in New Zealand with substantial political influence.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:26am
- RF
  
  This is going to be a very interesting year watching the gobby commie chic performing a series of back flips on policies.
  
  Is she a contender for the next Olympic Games ?
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:29am
- KKKKatee
  
  The PM has a thousand problems on her plate. It’s getting hot in the kitchen. I’m glad I’m not in that kitchen. I can get out and get fresh air whenever I please. She can’t.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:46am
- KiWombat
  
  I have a friend who is a Lake Alice survivor.
  
  He is consumed by the “injustices” of the past, and is constantly talking to advocates, media and pro-bono lawyers about that part of his life. He has already received a settlement of in excess of $100,000 but is still seeking some additional retribution.
  
  But whenever I ask him about what he is trying to achieve he has no answer, and keeps bumbling on about the perpetrators of the experiments performed on him back at Lake Alice. Of course most of these perpetrators are now dead, or have left New Zealand to escape ongoing scrutiny.
  
  By today’s standards, some of the “experiments” performed back in the 60’s and 70’s are indeed barbaric, but at the time they knew no better, and probably believed their actions, at the time, were meritorious.
  
  Similarly – here on KB we frequently see references to actions back in the last century held up to try and prove a point. Even today we see reference to Mohammed and Aisha – activities from how many centuries ago?
  
  Those who build their life foundation on such antiquities need a real wake up call, there is no doubt. But for the vast majority of us we need to accept that we are living in a new age, and begin to look forward. Please !
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:54am
  - sam green
    
    Another day – another KiWombat story …”my mate got $100,000 …” etc etc. I’d be really interested if you could reference that story. All credit if you can.
    
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    February 28, 2018 5:02pm
    - KiWombat
      
      Try this for size – it was actually $114,000 as stated here !
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3581489
      
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      February 28, 2018 10:08pm
      - sam green
        
        I know about the payments Kiwombat.
        
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        February 28, 2018 10:23pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Was that an apology then ?
        
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        February 28, 2018 10:29pm
      - sam green
        
        No need.
        
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        March 1, 2018 8:02am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’m interested in how this spins out..
  Since the Catholic schools came into the State system in 1975, it could be argued that their pupils fall under the watch of the State.
  The schools are ‘in loco parentis” whilst the pupils are in attendance.
  
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  February 28, 2018 10:14am
- KevOB
  
  Her Commission is not going to be helpful for mental health either.
  
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  February 28, 2018 11:08am
DigNap15

With Winston getting a new Ministerial position, does that mean he gets another salary?
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February 28, 2018 8:21am
- Paulus
  
  Peters is not in it for the Baubles, such as money.
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  Why is such a new Ministry necessary ?
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:27am
  - cmm
    
    It is really the Ministry of Squirrels.
    
    We make a supposed nuclear threat the big drama in town and people forget about mundane issues like:
    * Charter schools
    * Strikes
    * Houses.
    * Billion trees.
    
    Come 2020 CoL can then say no nukes went off in NZ on our watch, see how successful we are!
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:02am
  - tf78
    
    I think once again Winston has to go back in time – he held that portfolio years ago, he can’t think in the present.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:12am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Long term memory is all early onset leaves you with.
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:18am
- simpleton1
  
  A habit he is well used to.
  Dosh’s of money that just arrive in his bank account.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:27am
  - hullkiwi
    
    And he can’t tell if it was the correct amount or not…and don’t anyone report it in the media (unless it is Barely Sober).
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:35am
DigNap15

Does Labour stand by its decision to raise our wages (hugely) in New Zealand considering that more companies are going to outsource our jobs. Eg Insurance companies.

Outsourcing means sacking New Zealanders who pay tax, and giving the job to some person in India or The Philipines who will get paid much less, but will not pay tax here.

Where will those people who get laid off get jobs?
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February 28, 2018 8:25am
- Poppa
  
  You are right on that. I know a couple of the people who are being made redundant as a result of the offshoring & it is doomed to failure.
  
  The sad thing is, the decision will be reversed in a couple of years when they discover that they have not saved money & also created a huge mess for someone to clean up
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:30am
  - tf78
    
    Mind you I remember when vodafone’s call centre was in Egypt they were much more efficient that when they moved back to NZ.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:14am
    - rangitoto
      
      That was kind of funny when Vodafone’s Egypt call centre got cut off at the height of the political unrest there.
      
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      February 28, 2018 10:24am
- Happychappy
  
  The unfortunate made their bed at the election when Jacinda promised them that NZ didn’t need Capitalism and a share of other peoples wealth so now they have to lie in that bed. No one likes to see unemployment but when you want to be greedy and not care about the costs to employers then you deserve the outcome you are about to receive.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:39am
- KiWombat
  
  They can start planting trees.
  
  As of today there are over 35,000,000 trees needing a new home with many millions more arriving each month.
  
  Should be enough work in that for 10,000 or so. Double that if the project is union controlled !
  
  Or if they know how to hold a hammer, they should start lining up at the office door of the Hon Twitford !
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:50am
  - rangitoto
    
    So what is Jones doing with the 35 million seedlings. Hope he is keeping them watered.
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:25am
- Gabby
  
  That’ll free up those people to create better job opportunity situations going forward bignips.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:57am
Paulus

The new unemployed will get jobs with the Unions, or planting trees or building cheap (under $600,000) State houses.
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February 28, 2018 8:29am
- ldypen
  
  It’s all part of the glorious COL plan.. the plebs will be employed at the new minimum wage of $50hr to plant the billion trees.. now, once these trees grow there will be heaps of wood to turn into low cost homes and as the workers have been paid their $50hr they can then afford these wonderful NZ wood made homes…see it’s easy!
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:35am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    We should just send all the rugged and individualistic ‘rough sleepers’ living worthy and even enviable alternative lifestyles under the caring administration of the CoL to live in the forests, making use of the natural shelter of the canopies to reduce their environmental impact and carbon footprint.
    
    Labour could get their kiwibuild numbers up at same time as they work on their tree planting.
    
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    February 28, 2018 12:23pm
  - Paulus
    
    Radiata take up to 25 years to mature to cut down.
    Can the Coalition of Losers wait that long for wood to build houses ?
    
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    February 28, 2018 1:56pm
DigNap15

It would be nice if the Insurance companies would tell us how much our premiums would go down by if they outsourced everything.
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February 28, 2018 8:32am
- Gabby
  
  Hahahahahahahahaha.
  
  Good one.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:59am
- Paulus
  
  Insurance Companies can reduce premiums if you stopped claiming spurious claims.
  
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  February 28, 2018 1:57pm
DifferentPerspective

NP electorate offices swamped overnight with emails from ex-National voters?

My (National) local MP now knows my vote is lost. I’m guessing many others are looking at their small majority and wondering too how they keep their seat in 2020.

The in-fighting for high list positions is going to be epic!
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February 28, 2018 8:38am
- Andrei
  
  My (National) local MP now knows my votes is lost.
  
  And we all now know you have a limited grasp of English grammar
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:42am
  - Gabby
    
    You da punchuation king Andrei.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:00am
    - Andrei
      
      No – just enjoying the spectacle of grumpy old men who have a hard on for Judith Collins in meltdown mode
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:04am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Andrei – more of the same childish thinking that characterises the Labour Lite-ism afflicting the NP.
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:15am
      - Batman
        
        @DP yes, the left had a raging hard on for Cunliffe, their version of Collins, and guess how that ended up, the worst result in that party’s history…
        
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        February 28, 2018 1:55pm
  - KevOB
    
    And has made his choice to go with the opposition.
    
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    February 28, 2018 11:11am
- Colville
  
  National know there is nowhere for a Right voter to go other than ACT.
  Throw your toys as far and wide as you like but come 2020 and you will be faced with a choice..
  
  Taxcinda or Bridges, simple as that.
  
  So..what you gonna do..vote for Winston?
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:17am
  - thedavincimode
    
    National know there is nowhere for a Right voter to go other than ACT.
    
    Ideally that would involve some idea of what Act actually stands for. I really have no idea, apart perhaps from being really earnest and euthanasia. Seymour suffers from being the only one there but in reality, Act is gone, dead buried. Zero profile apart from suffering the tribal hatred from the pinkos.
    
    Hide basically buried it with his perk hypocrisy and inability to manage his caucus and he certainly tarnished the rep with the super city fiasco he left behind. But then I suppose, they made some very ordinary selections when they did have numbers in parliament but even so, he couldn’t manage a pissup in a phone box.
    
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    February 28, 2018 2:12pm
- flipper
  
  Absolute bullshit.
  The reverse is true.
  We Nats will give Bridges/Bennett the “old College try”. This is the message going to Electorate Executives and thence to MPs and “would be s)
  But it would be useful (for you) to remember that inn all Western Democracies “he who wins the centre” wins the game.
  Peters (and Ardern et al) got his (their) baubles by lies and by conning the unsophisticated. But I doubt that will work again.
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:43am
- Paulus
  
  Bollocks !
  
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  February 28, 2018 2:01pm
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
With the election of Simon Bridges as the New National Party leader there still remains on Kiwiblog a massive disconnect between alt right posters ( Trumpeters ) on KB and mainstream discourse and thinking out there in the real world.
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February 28, 2018 8:46am
- Rich Prick
  
  Does Trump crowd out your dreams too?
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:21am
  - stephieboy
    
    Rich Prick ,no .Its just that trumpeters on KB don ’t represent mainstream political thinking here in NZ
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:54am
    - jcuk
      
      They are political junkies here on KB just like most writers at the Standard.
      
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      February 28, 2018 11:07am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Where’s your evidence?
  Source please.
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:52am
  - stephieboy
    
    Shaun the Sheep , the result of the last General Election is but one .
    
    I don’t know of anybody in the parliamentary National party who has publicly endorsed Donald Trump or the alt right .
    
    Do you ?
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:57am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      A sad attempt at diversion.
      I didn’t make the sweeping statement, you did.
      You have yet to supply evidence and reference a source.
      The standard you require of other contributors does not apply to you?
      Gosh, how left.
      
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      February 28, 2018 10:27am
- Harkman
  
  So it took you until 8:46 AM to get out your typical “alt right posters ( Trumpeters )” nonsense today. Hard night?
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:54am
EAD_TWO

SHOCK, HORROR

Largest year-on-year increase in anti-semitism since 1979 comes as Trump administration is accused of failing to condemn bigotry

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/27/antisemitism-us-rises-anti-defamation-league

Got that folks – the ADL (fresh after making up stories about the Hispanic Florida shooter being a “white supremicist) has released a report linking Trump to an enormous rise in *anti-semitism*

Only at the very bottom, long after the reader has digested the headline does the paper fess up and admit:

The ADL’s report included 163 bomb threats in 2017, the vast majority of which were made by an Israeli-American teenager who was later arrested and faces accusations of making threats for financial gain. The teenager’s calls stoked fears of rising antisemitism.

Jus got to keep up the narrative that even as Whites are being dispossessed in the country their ancestors built, it’s always the Jew who is the eternal victim and Whitey is always the bad guy.

Apologies in advance for noticing these things ???
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February 28, 2018 8:48am
- dime
  
  geez dude, ya really struggle with jewish people eh?
  
  im sure a bunch of them are pieces of shit, just like with every other race/group on the planet.
  
  but dam, ya make it sound like they are all in on whatever bad deed youve just spotted.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:58am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Hey Dime,
    
    My fundamental problem (If you call it that) is that I call the world as I see it rather than how the MSM wants me to see it.
    
    I’ve spent over a decade living in various locations over the world and it’s only those in the brainwashed West that have been taught to see the world through a left vs. right prism.
    
    Believe you me, the rest of the world, but especially Jews & Muslims see the world just about entirely through an ethnic/religious spectrum. Just go read a Jewish newspaper to see what I mean.
    
    I think it just shocks people that I’ve managed to throw of the mental shackles that has been indoctrinated into us since the moment we entered the “education” system.
    
    Can you for instance not see anything wrong with what is been done in the article above?
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:17am
    - dime
      
      mate, i think its your delivery thats off putting.
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:36am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Style, tone or the fact I’m sharing such news articles?
        
        What’s your view on the ADL (a Jewish tax exempt ahhhemm “charity”) issuing press releases that are either blatant lies (the Flordia shooter) or grossly misleading (including Jewish hoaxes as examples of anti-semitic hate crime) that each and every time attack White People?
        
        These releases go around the world through every MSM outlet with fake news passed off as truth:
        
        http://time.com/5177193/anti-defamation-league-anti-semitism-report-2017/
        
        http://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/Antisemitism/ADL-sounds-alarm-against-neo-Nazi-conspiracy-theorists-in-wake-of-Florida-shooting-543459
        
        And if I dare point out what the hell is going on – people shoot the messenger❗❗❗
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:51am
  - flipper
    
    Eichmann reincarnated …..
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:46am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO,
  
  as you have been heatedly reminded ,
  
  Meet the Jews in Donald Trump’s inner circle
  
  A look at the president-elect’s advisers and their possible roles in his incoming administration
  
  “President-elect Donald Trump has a complicated history with Jews. On the one hand, his daughter Ivanka converted to Orthodox Judaism before marrying Jared Kushner, and he’s spoken fondly about having Jewish grandchildren…”
  
  https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-the-jews-in-donald-trumps-inner-circle/
  
  Maybe Ivanka and the President’s three cabinet ministers have something to say on the matter ?
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:00am
  - tf78
    
    Apparently all Donald’s children apart from his young son are married to Jewish partners.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:26am
    - stephieboy
      
      Ivanka , converted to Orthodox Judaism and has three children .
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:50am
      - Harkman
        
        Then why do you always claim he is antisemitic?
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:57am
      - stephieboy
        
        Harkman , never have .Many of his supporters certainly are .
        
        I also have repeatdly reminded EAD TWO that the President has three Jewish Members of his cabinet . And today the fact Ivanka has converted to Orthodox Judaism providing him with three grand children of Jewish heritage,
        
        “Anti-Semitism unleashed by Trump followers chills Jewish voters
        For many Americans who thought bigotry and prejudice against Jews were ailments of the distant past, the 2016 race has been a bitter wake-up call ”
        
        https://www.timesofisrael.com/anti-semitism-unleashed-by-trump-followers-chills-jewish-voters/
        
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        February 28, 2018 10:02am
- fernglas
  
  EAD2, You say that the ADL made up the story about Cruz being a white supremacist, but the fact is that the ADL and other organisations were told by the leader of a Florida white supremacist group that Cruz was a member, a claim which he later disavowed, so I don’t quite see how the ADL can be responsible for the fabrication. Also, you keep banging on about how he is Hispanic, but you overlook that he was adopted at birth, as was his brother Zachary, from an unidentified mother and unknown father, so he could be of any ethnicity. He certainly doesn’t look terribly Hispanic to me. But be careful EAD2, with names like Nikolas and Zachary they could be…………..JEWS!!!!
  
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  February 28, 2018 11:09am
dime

sky is finally slashing its pricing. about friggen time!

so many people have left for IPTV. 10 pounds a month for full hd sports etc 3000 channels. a better picture than sky.. ppv’s thrown in..

they needed to do something.

i watch some aussie tv (some kiwi dude made a kodi add on and all freeview oz tv streams beautifully) and foxtel advertises a lot. they are cheap as.
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February 28, 2018 8:50am
- Harkman
  
  But they’ll continue to milk us for many years.
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:59am
- Longknives
  
  Ha Ha Sky can go fuck themselves.
  I was a loyal customer for ten years and when I disconnected they tried to charge me for an extra month, then when I returned the Box and Decoder to them (That’s right- Sky actually make you drive halfway across the City to their office to return) they tried to charge me for a missing piece of equipment that I had never heard of.
  They backed off when I told them I would happily see them in Court.
  As I left I politely asked if they ever ‘Wondered why they are Haemorrhaging Customers’?
  
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  February 28, 2018 10:00am
  - dime
    
    when i booted sky last year, i couldnt find the drop off place…
    
    a week later a guy calls me and goes – im picking up boxes in your area monday! like, multiple boxes.
    
    fuck if i had shares in sky i would have sold them on the spot!
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:25am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Sky have lost over 30,000 customers recently, think it was 37,000!
      
      Took them long enough to react.
      
      Like Blockbuster Videos. Not long after Netflix started up they offered to buy out Blockbuster who laughed them off. Netflix are now worth over $900b and where are the video outlets these days!
      
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      February 28, 2018 1:15pm
  - howitis
    
    I had similar with Sky filth
    I ended the contract.
    Each month was paid in advance.
    The date of the final contract month ended on a Sunday.
    I dropped the decoder off on a Saturday as that worked out better to go over to Mt Wellington.
    It was all pre-paid and I simply dropped off a ‘hired’ device one day early.
    
    Then Sky TV sent me a bill for two months connection for ‘breaking the contract early’
    No, I simply dropped it off early.
    Emails were exchanged with them backing off when I said it goes legal and in court there will be a permanent record of their illegal behaviour. Total pricks.
    
    SkyTV and Vodafone. Appalling billing systems and customer service – huh? Que ? Service…what is that?
    Instead of allowing a deal to run its course and keep a door open for future activity they looked to make enemies.
    I have viewed SkyTV in the 5 years since as scum and filth.
    
    Sky TV’s new home should be at the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
    
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    February 28, 2018 12:05pm
- RF
  
  dime
  
  Seriously does IPTV work OK in NZ ?
  
  Presume you can use an existing sky dish ?
  
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  February 28, 2018 1:31pm
Gravelroad

Other half was so peed off by yesterday’s happenings and the National Party’s performance generally, it was decided that a letter of protest to party chair, Mr Goodfellow, was called for.
OH has always supported National but is not a member.
The letter, which I am sure will not ever be read by Mr Goodhew, ended with this question:
“What principles does your party really hold true to?”
Can anyone on here think of any?
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February 28, 2018 8:55am
- Poppa
  
  I too sent an email to Peter Goodfellow which I have never done before.
  
  I actually got a response from one of his minions which surprised the hell out of me. It looked like it was a standard reply so obviously they have had plenty before mine
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:11am
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    Wave your cursor over the name at top of the email and it will show you where the reply actually came from
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:08am
lastmanstanding

So people who want more personal responsibility less government in their lives and more freedom to do what they want without harm others and to retain more of their hard earned cash can no longer vote National.

The Nats the Socialists the Communists all together with the same message. More tax more government less freedom less personal responsibility.

Looking bleaker and bleaker.

#atnofutureforNZ
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February 28, 2018 8:56am
- stephieboy
  
  lastmanstanding , small wonder types like you still remain in the perpetual political desert .
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:48am
waikatogirl

Business confidence is down under the CoL with growth predicted to be less than 3%.

Oh dear, another poor performing area under the CoL. What you going to do about poor business confidence under your lot Cindy and Grant?
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February 28, 2018 9:06am
- Poppa
  
  But Grant put 4% in his budget so the prediction cannot be right. Grant would know better than any economist
  
  Anyone see a hole?
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:13am
  - KKKKatee
    
    Gran’ts nowhere to be seen these days. He’s not getting any media coverage. What’s going on, Grant?
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:08pm
Manolo

Our own stephieboy declined the offer:
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/27/trump-taps-texan-brad-parscale-his-2020-re-election-campaign-manager/

President Donald Trump has picked a digital guru who built his career in San Antonio to run his 2020 re-election campaign.

Brad Parscale, whose San Antonio web design firm played a leading role in Trump’s digital efforts in the 2016 race, will be campaign manager for 2020. Parscale worked for Trump long before he became a political candidate, and Parscale’s firm was paid millions of dollars during the 2016 campaign.
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February 28, 2018 9:12am
Hugh Pavletich

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/02/links-28-february-2018/#comment-3058144 … and …

HOUSING AFFORDABILITY DRIVES THE COST OF LIVING … WENDELL COX … NEW GEOGRAPHY

http://www.newgeography.com/content/005894-housing-affordability-drives-cost-living

Housing affordability is what largely drives the standard of living the United States. The 14th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey showed that, in 2016, there was a 0.83 correlation between the housing unaffordability, measured by the Median Multiple (median house price divided by median household income) and the composite cost of living (Note 1) for households entering the housing market in the 107 metropolitan areas with more than 500,000 residents (Note 2). This cost of living is the income required to live a “median standard of living” (Note 3). … read more via hyperlink above …
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  HOMELESSNESS IN CALIFORNIA … CYCLE TOURS …
  
  Homeless People in Anaheim, California or Third World Country?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04Z3Rd0rD_I
  
  Cycling through Homeless Camps on Santa Ana River Bike Trail in Orange County California – YouTube
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhy3zI3wvAo
  
  … and too ..
  
  “We Don’t Belong Here Anymore” – Even Landlords Are Fleeing The Bay Area | Zero Hedge
  
  https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-24/we-dont-belong-here-anymore-even-landlords-are-fleeing-bay-area
  
  Peter Thiel and his band of libertarian-leaning Silicon Valley-types aren’t the only ones scrambling to leave the Bay Area: As we’ve noted time and time again, staggering economic inequality is a daily fact of life in the area surrounding San Francisco – largely because rapidly growing home valuations have left couples earning as much as $500,00 a year feeling like they’re being steadily priced out.
  
  And while we’ve previously covered the exodus of renters to low-cost states like Texas, in a report published Saturday, the East Bay Times explores an even more troubling trend: Landlords are increasingly taking the cue from their tenants and joining in the exodus. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  LOOKING FOR YOUR MILLION DOLLAR SYDNEY HOME ? … THE GUARDIAN REPORTS …
  
  The gorgeous photos of the derelict properties you still can’t afford (Sydney) … The Guardian
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/feb/23/the-gorgeous-photos-of-the-derelict-properties-you-still-cant-afford
  
  The gorgeous photos of the derelict properties you still can’t afford
  
  Nobody focuses on the housing market crisis in quite the same way real estate photographers do
  
  by Steph Harmon and Carly Earl
  
  … extract …
  
  … “We didn’t touch anything. It was just too hazardous – you don’t know what’s under some of the clothing and stuff. Upstairs was super, super hazardous; you could fall through some of those bedroom floors.”
  
  The house has a price guide of $1m, and is described on the listing as “the ultimate fixer upper”.
  
  “All attendees are required to sign a waiver prior to entry. No entry to anyone aged under 16. No open toe shoes to be worn.” … VIEW & READ more via hyperlink above …
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:32am
  - Harkman
    
    “Peter Thiel and his band of libertarian-leaning Silicon Valley-types aren’t the only ones scrambling to leave the Bay Area.” Peter Thiel is a rarity, the rest of Silicon Valley are nanny-state space fillers. The problem with California is it is run by leftists.
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:48am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Give me strength……..
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:52am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Captain Mainwaring … I understand your grief following Sept / Oct last year … with yesterdays follow – up leadership blunder.
      
      It appears the Brits are following in the Kiwis footsteps …
      
      Tories hire army of tweeters to take social media fight to Labour … UK Telegraph (behind paywall)
      
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/24/tories-hire-army-tweeters-take-social-media-fight-labour/
      
      The Conservative Party is hiring an army of paid tweeters to take on Jeremy Corbyn’s supporters on social media, the Telegraph can disclose.
      
      Brandon Lewis, the new Tory chairman, is recruiting hundreds of staff across the country in a bid to dramatically increase the party’s online presence and marshal groups of volunteers “on the ground” in every constituency.
      
      The attempt to “professionalise” the Tories’ campaign operation comes amid fears among senior Tories that the party faces disastrous results in May’s local authority elections. … (behind paywall) … read more via hyperlink above …
      
      … Recent reports …
      
      THE BRITISH HOUSING CRISIS & LIKELY POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES (REPEATING NEW ZEALAND’S RECENT ELECTION EXPERIENCE) …
      
      Tories fear middle-class millennials priced out of housing market could sink party at next election … UK Telegraph (behind paywall)
      
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/16/millennials-middle-incomes-half-likely-homeowners-1990s/
      
      Young middle-class professionals are half as likely to get on the housing ladder as they were 20 years ago, a new study has found as Tory MPs warned that the issue is an “iceberg” that could sink the party at the next election.
      
      A report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies said that just one in four young middle-income families now owns their own home, down from two in three in the 1990s. read more via hyperlink above …
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      Middle-income millennials priced out of homes market … Institute of Fiscal Studies Report … Financial Times
      … google search title to access if blocked…
      
      https://www.ft.com/content/024b1282-1236-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277
      
      Ownership among young adults has ‘collapsed’, says IFS report … read more via hyperlink above …
      
      … What lessons are being learned from New Zealand ? …
      
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      February 28, 2018 10:05am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Captain Mainwaring … Why does the National Party leadership not listen to its members ?
        
        New Zealand National Party leadership …
        
        Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/02/links-28-february-2018/#comment-3058193
        
        It’s Bridges … (Kiwi Tory) Kiwiblog
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/its_bridges.html
        
        The 12th Leader of the New Zealand National Party is Simon Bridges. Paula Bennett had been returned as Deputy Leader. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        How KB readers voted … Kiwiblog
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/how_kb_readers_voted.html
        
        It is no surprise that KB readers are different to the NP caucus. The very unscientific survey of readers saw first preferences being:
        
        Judith Collins 58.8%
        Amy Adams 17.7%
        Steven Joyce 11.0%
        Simon Bridges 9.5%
        Mark Mitchell 5.5%
        
        What is interesting is the second preferences of those who chose an MP as their first preference. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        Why ?
        
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        February 28, 2018 10:52am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        NEW ZEALAND: New National leader (Simon Bridges) says there is a housing crisis in NZ … Radio New Zealand
        
        Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/02/links-28-february-2018/#comment-3058224 … and …
        
        New National leader says there is a housing crisis in NZ | Radio New Zealand News
        
        https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/351421/new-national-leader-says-there-is-a-housing-crisis-in-nz
        
        New National Party leader Simon Bridges has admitted that there is a housing crisis in New Zealand “for those it affects”.
        
        Simon Bridges was named the new leader of the National Party yesterday, while Paula Bennett was reinstalled as deputy leader. …
        
        … Asked if he had any regrets over National’s nine years in power, he said he believed the previous government may not have shown it was doing enough on housing and the environment.
        
        Despite that government’s refusal to concede that there was a housing crisis in New Zealand, Mr Bridges admitted today that it was a crisis “for those it affects”. … read more via hyperlink …
        
        It’s Bridges … (Kiwi Tory) Kiwiblog
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/its_bridges.html
        
        How KB (Kiwi Tory) readers voted … Kiwiblog
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/how_kb_readers_voted.html
        
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        February 28, 2018 11:30am
- Dave Mann
  
  Gone by 10.45? Maybe earlier….
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:43am
Harkman

Robyn Malcolm wants us to take one of her pills. I for one will be declining that offer.
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February 28, 2018 9:45am
- RF
  
  What’s the Hobbit hater up to now ?
  
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  February 28, 2018 12:33pm
- Paulus
  
  You would not know where Robyn Malcolm’s pills had been !
  
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  February 28, 2018 2:05pm
  - Harkman
    
    Exactly!
    
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    February 28, 2018 5:09pm
Odakyu-sen

Speaking of leaders who do not wish to leave…

This was carried in the Herald, but I think it went under the radar for most people. The ramifications are huge.

“Chinese President Xi Jinping is set to become the modern-day Mao Zedong, analysts say, under a law change that would allow him to rule indefinitely.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12001889

Chairman Mao would be so proud…
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February 28, 2018 9:45am
- kowtow
  
  Under the radar indeed.
  
  Now had it been Trump……..
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:48am
- Manolo
  
  Isn’t communism gloriously democratic?
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:49am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Every communist leader is a closet aristocrat.
    
    (not my original quote)
    
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    February 28, 2018 9:57am
DigNap15

So Sky are now charging $25 for the equivalent of Freeview
And you still need to pay $25 to get movies.
So that’s a total of $50 a month.
And you still get all the ads!

F.. off John.
You can come and get my aerial, its an eyesore on my roof.
I’ll stick with Freeview and Youtube

But like BBC world.
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February 28, 2018 10:11am
- Inandout
  
  Sky are desperate for income but they had years of creaming a gullible public, and even WINZ. Netflix has no ads, plenty of content, and are cheap. YouTube is also mostly free of ads.
  
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  February 28, 2018 11:16am
  - marcw
    
    They can’t be that desperate – I used to buy one week each month to watch the 4 sports channels on Fan Pass. They decided my $240 pa wasn’t worth collecting, so they cancelled that service. I hope they enjoy the redundancy payouts.
    
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    February 28, 2018 12:44pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Shane has just given us the low-down on the tree-planting…

Looks like it’s pretty much the status-quo this winter..just 55mill. trees..
But it’ll be all go next year… up to 70 mill.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018634023/shane-jones-on-the-billion-trees-plan
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February 28, 2018 10:26am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  so at 15million extra trees per year it will only take 60 years to deliver the promised billion? Only 50 years over the original target of 10 years. Better than usual performance for the CoL.
  
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  February 28, 2018 12:16pm
Surely Knott

Auckland Council is seeking feedback on a raft of new proposed taxes over and above Goffs promised 2.5 rate increase – he wants a 2.5% this year, and then 3.5% every year after that, plus a Kauri tax, a new water/stormwater tax, a regional fuel tax, additional air b&b tax. In the Herald the only article is “Phil Goff: Auckland Council’s 10 yr budget will fix sewage, transport and Kauri.” which is written by Phil Goff himself,no doubt with the help of his army of PR staff!!!! The 4th estate is dead.
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February 28, 2018 10:53am
- DigNap15
  
  They should just sack half of the overpaid bureaucrats
  
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  February 28, 2018 11:39am
Jack5

TVNZ is going back to Gloriavale, the religious outfit on the West Coast, for another feature, the Hooerald reports.

Highlighting Christianity excesses is fine, but it’s hypocritical when TVNZ ignored the recent Muslim mass-murder plot in Christchurch – for which the planner received probation!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12003432
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February 28, 2018 10:57am
- itstricky
  
  What was it today Jack? Did you get your nails done?
  
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  February 28, 2018 11:05am
  - Jack5
    
    Troll away, itstricky, you leftist fuckwit.
    
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    February 28, 2018 11:37am
    - itstricky
      
      Why is it trolling, Jack? You’re the one who said it:
      
      https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/herald_paywall_coming-2.html#comment-2145434
      
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      February 28, 2018 2:26pm
      - Jack5
        
        You didn’t like the suggestion that Hooerald crap-for-sale will appeal chiefly to fashion magazine readers?
        
        Are you perhaps a loyal Hooerald staffer or ex-staffer itstricky?
        
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        February 28, 2018 2:39pm
      - itstricky
        
        You didn’t like the suggestion
        
        Nah, I just like keeping you & jolly KBers in check with the things you’ve said.
        
        Remember this one?
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/herald_paywall_coming-2.html#comment-2145310
        
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        February 28, 2018 4:34pm
      - sam green
        
        Kachinga!
        
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        February 28, 2018 6:43pm
      - Jack5
        
        You’re in a loop, itstricky, repeating a link, and trying to divert from the hypocrisy of State-owned TVNZ.
        
        Are you ready to argue about the standard of the Hooerald? Or ready to argue about the decline of TVNZ?
        
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        February 28, 2018 9:29pm
Manolo

The clown claims it was not his fault:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pm-says-he-stands-by-official-who-suggested-indian-factions-sabotaged-trip-1.3821232

Justin Trudeau is standing by a senior government official who suggested factions within the Indian government were involved in sabotaging the prime minister’s visit to India last week.
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February 28, 2018 10:59am
- howitis
  
  So the Fairy Dust Princess’s alleged husband ( from The Real Housewives of Ottawa) uses the classic loser’s excuse:
  
  -I din du nuffin
  -It wasn’t me
  -I didn’t inhale
  -Sum Wun someone got hold of my password
  -I left my chequebook at home
  -It was the russians
  -I left my male hormone supplements back in Canada
  
  Sadly, just as Nats yesterday voted a stumbling Maori dude as a Maori leader of the Maori-lead National Pardy the western world is capitulating to these soft cock marxists.
  >Turnbull has cooked his goose in Australia and paving the way for Shorten
  >T. May in Britain is paving the way for Corbyn
  
  It is white flags all round.
  
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  February 28, 2018 11:43am
- RF
  
  Manolo
  
  It’s the classic. The dog ate my homework…..
  
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  February 28, 2018 12:30pm
MCos

This morning in the Herald there is an article about triplets who have all won AUT scholarships. They aren’t from the flashiest part of Auckland so good on then.
Whenever triplets are mentioned my mind goes back to the three Kiwi kiddies who died in a mall fire in Doha six years ago that engulfed their daycare.
A family’s raison d’état gone in the blink of an eye . . .
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February 28, 2018 11:07am
Manolo

Another Oxfam. This time the UN in Syria:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5681346/syrian-women-forced-trade-sex-for-food-un-aid-couriers/

Syrian women are being sexually exploited by men delivering aid for the United Nations and charities, it has been claimed.

Aid workers claimed the local workers demand sexual favours in exchange for food and lifts – and charity bosses have known for three years.
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February 28, 2018 11:20am
- Jack5
  
  Time to spring-clean the NZ Charities Register, which gives some of these international rooters tax-free access to NZ cash.
  
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  February 28, 2018 2:43pm
  - Jack5
    
    Manolo, to add to your collection, this snippet-taster is from a report behind the Telegraph paywall:
    
    BBC Media Action, the corporation’s international development charity, fired six of its staff “for sexual harassment or for watching pornography on work computers” over the past 10 years.
    
    The charity was given £70 million by the Department for International Development between 2012 and 2017 but has admitted that it did not disclose any of the incidents to ministers.
    
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    February 28, 2018 2:52pm
cmm

We have $350k going into a feasibility study to determine if it makes sense to transport rubbish to the West Coast, burn it and use the heat for energy.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/101832888/businessman-investigated-by-sfo-connected-to-govtfunded-project

For one hundredth of that – $3500 – I can tell you that you will do better by:
A) Just burning the fuel used to transport the rubbish.
-or-
B) Burn some of the abundant coal on the West Coast.

The energy density of household waste is pretty low. It is only about one tenth that of coal or oil. High plastic waste streams from industry would be much higher though.

Of course for $3500 you won’t get as many fancy Power Points and we won’t be able to throw in some guided fishing and a helicopter when you come look at the site proposals.

Money for investigations is complete jam. Just take the money (charging out all the workers who touch it at $150/hr) and then just say “naah, won’t work” at the end.
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February 28, 2018 11:46am
Longknives

Just got sent an amusing link from a mate who is a Copper-

It’s Hayley Holt on the Breakfast Show this morning howling that she wants NZ Police to stop shooting and tasering dangerous Dogs.
She seems to think a rampaging Pit Bull that is ripping someone’s face off can be calmed down with kind words, a piece of steak or doggie treats…
(She even suggests Cops carry a piece of steak with them on Patrol)

To think this bimbo nearly made it into our Parliament!
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February 28, 2018 12:04pm
- DigNap15
  
  Did you see the dogs.
  Not many dachshunds were tasered.
  They should shoot the pit bulls and their owners!
  
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  February 28, 2018 12:31pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    You know, I have never seen a dachshund in Glen Innes or any other of the State housing areas in Orakei. (Always a bad-ass pit-bull half-breed.)
    
    It kind of goes with the loud boom-boom music, the tattoos, the Harley Davidsons, the large trampolines on the 1/4-acre sections, the long parties and the smoking breaks that do not involve tobacco.
    
    It seems that the so-called poor (like the lords and aristocrats of old) have their money given to them by others; they do not work for it.
    
    And just like the feudal lords of the Edo Period, to look one of these proud individuals in the eye is to invite a beating for one’s impudence.
    Perhaps they are our masters?
    
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    February 28, 2018 2:10pm
- GoVege
  
  LK: Did you see the bit on the news last night with the warning “some viewers may find it disturbing”? What I found disturbing was our boys in blue being set upon by pit bulls, not these vicious dogs writhing in pain from being rightly tasered.
  
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  February 28, 2018 1:15pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    How about the howls from the SPCA about one of those mungrel dogs getting tasered for attacking a police dog.
    Irony alert SPCA!
    
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    February 28, 2018 1:47pm
- cmm
  
  Having once been attacked by a bull terrier and needing about three good “taps” on the head with a big spanner to change its mind, I very much doubt cuddles are going to work. Luckily for me it only ripped up the sleeve of my overalls and I was within arm’s length of a tool chest.
  
  The cops are our employees and we are obliged to give them as safe a workplace as we can. If that includes using tasers and even guns to subdue dangerous dogs then so be it.
  
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  February 28, 2018 1:24pm
  - RF
    
    Believe it or not I still have scars from a dog bite… it was a bloody Police dog that after nipping a burglar decided that my lower leg looked juicy.
    
    Never trust a dog with sharp teeth.
    
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    February 28, 2018 1:38pm
    - Gabby
      
      The biter bit rf rf.
      
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      February 28, 2018 11:35pm
  - Jack5
    
    Police dog handlers know dogs, but some other constables are fairly ignorant about dogs.
    
    Youtube has many clips of overseas police shooting dogs at wrong houses, service dogs mistaken for pit bulls, and so on.
    
    But then there is this smart, humane policeman who calms a couple of aggressive dogs that other police might have shot:
    
    https://youtu.be/0tMlp0b6IG0
    
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    February 28, 2018 3:16pm
    - Longknives
      
      Those feral mutts deserved a round right between the eyes.
      Imagine if that was your children they were charging at?
      
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      February 28, 2018 5:23pm
      - GoVege
        
        I know a very sweet young lady whose small dog was killed by a relation’s pitbull. She wasn’t angry with the owner because she said the dogs “got along fine most of the time”.
        It doesn’t seem to occur to many naive people that it doesn’t matter if a pitbull is fine 99.9% of the time, if in that other .01% of the time, it manages to tear your little dog’s throat out or scar a child for life.
        
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        February 28, 2018 8:21pm
      - Jack5
        
        Longknives, the way many, even most, police shoot a pistol, there would be more danger of them getting a limb torn off by a soft-nose bullet from the hail of shots from the Glock.
        
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        February 28, 2018 8:27pm
      - Jack5
        
        Don’t go all vegetarian on dogs, GoVege.
        
        The NZ Veterinary Association says this on the flaws of classifying dogs as “menacing” or “dangerous”.
        
        The NZVA objects to the automatic menacing classification given to dogs based on their breed or type for the following reasons:
        
        Aggressive behaviour in dogs can be encouraged by an owner in any number of large, powerful breeds of dogs. Breed correlations in dog bite statistics may actually be reflecting the owner’s behaviour as the underlying causal factor (American Veterinary Medical Association Animal Welfare Division., 2014).
        
        Dog breed is not the biggest contributing factor to a dog bite incident (Patronek, Sacks, Delise, Cleary, & Marder, 2013) and to target specific breeds or types as menacing is a gross oversimplification of this complex issue. It fails to capture large numbers of potentially dangerous dogs that belong to breeds that are not classified as “menacing” or who are crossbreds and promotes a false sense of security.
        
        It does not address or promote an attitude of responsible dog ownership. Regardless of the positive actions taken by an owner of a dog classified as menacing due to its breed or type, the dog remains classified and is subject to restrictions that reduce its welfare.
        
        Dog bite statistics do not accurately reflect the risk of a given breed or type as they are skewed by the popularity of the breed or type of dog. The list of biting breeds is also subject to change over time to reflect changes in popularity of dog breeds or types (Collier, 2006). The identification of the breed or type of dog involved in a dog bite incident is also subject to inaccuracies (Wake, Minot, Stafford, & Perry, 2009).
        
        It wastes resources by unnecessarily restricting dogs that pose no threat. The focus of dog control efforts should be on responding to the aggressive behaviour, rather than the breed or type of dog.
        
        Identification of a pit bull-type is unreliable as it encompasses a range of breeds, informal types and appearances. The NZVA does not support identification of unregistered breeds and/or crossbreeds on the basis of ‘visual assessment’ due to the lack of scientific correlation between genetic makeup and physical characteristics (Australian Veterinary Association Ltd, 2012).
        
        Breed-specific legislation has not worked overseas. Although politically expedient, overseas experience has shown it to be ineffective at managing dog bite incidents (Australian Veterinary Association Ltd, 2012). Three European and several US administrations have now reviewed and reversed breed-specific legislation.
        
        http://www.nzva.org.nz/?page=policydangerousdogs
        
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        February 28, 2018 8:34pm
      - GoVege
        
        Jack5: the vet association can pontificate to their hearts content, but it doesn’t change the fact that there are plenty of dogs out there who wouldn’t bite you if you put your hand in their mouth.
        E.g. golden retrievers.
        (And my kids tried doing that with ours, apparently.)
        There is no need to keep dogs capable of killing or seriously injuring people or other animals.
        The only dogs who should be permitted to bite are police dogs….and good on them!
        
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        March 1, 2018 12:14am
  - Jack5
    
    CMM posted at 1.24:”Having once been attacked by a bull terrier …”
    
    And you a Seth African!
    
    Didn’t your parents read you the story of Jock of the Bushveldt?
    
    Bull terriers – including Staffies – are great dogs.
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:02pm
- Viking2
  
  richie missed a problem there.
  
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  February 28, 2018 5:43pm
- KKKKatee
  
  The scary thing is she might get in if Golly keeps on putting her foot in her gob and gets the boot!
  I agree, she is rather brainless and not a Greenie at all. She’s a bloody activist just itching to hitch her wagon to GangGreen!
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:13pm
Brigitte

Well, she hasn’t gone all sulky at missing out on the leaders position. Todays QT:

10. Hon JUDITH COLLINS to the Minister of Transport: Is the current industrial action by the Rail and Maritime Transport Union in Auckland assisting the Government’s efforts to encourage greater public transport use?
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February 28, 2018 12:26pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Mind you. I would actually prefer if the Council spent their money on continued security on the trains, rather than the new proposal for millions on security around the regional park. Mind you if they are cutting the security on trains, why can’t those people be used for security at the regional park. Like for like costs. No kauri tax needed.
  
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  February 28, 2018 12:57pm
Manolo

Very well said, Mr Cresswell:
http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2018/02/the-bland-leading-blind.html

In nine years of John Key government, it was impossible to discern a direction beyond “steady as she goes.” Blind to the damage it was doing, it was a government simply maintaining reforms it had previously disparaged (RMA, Working for Families, Interest-Free Student Loans) while offering none its own.

Status-quo merchants in blue, presiding over nine years of steadily increasing taxation, regulation and control.

The bland blundering looks to continue with the caucus’s choice of the oleaginous Simon Bridges to be their great next-generational hope.
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February 28, 2018 12:56pm
rangitoto

Liarbore:

Close the EVIL successful CHARTER SCHOOLS.

Spend 33 million to bail out the miserable failure Tai Poutini Polytechnic .
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February 28, 2018 1:32pm
- DigNap15
  
  Imagine going for a job interview.
  
  Well I’ve got this certificate from Tai Poutini Polytechinc!
  
  OK, we’ll get back to you….
  
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  February 28, 2018 3:27pm
Manolo

This pious couple sets an example of multiculturalist success across the Tasman; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5434413/Iranian-refugee-couple-caught-36-KILOS-ice.html

An Iranian refugee couple appeared to be living the Australian dream before they were allegedly caught running a sophisticated drug trafficking ring which flooded the streets of Sydney with crystal meth.

Ali Maleki and Yosra Rabieh were granted temporary protection visas after arriving to Australia by boat in 2013 – and have since built a luxury life in Sydney’s north-west with their two daughters, aged one and three.
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February 28, 2018 1:43pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Can their refugee status not be revoked? (For the good of the Australian public.)
  
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  February 28, 2018 2:12pm
- Jack5
  
  Australia deports foreign-born criminals when it can, so perhaps these scum will end up in Little’s prison-free NZ.
  
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  February 28, 2018 2:35pm
- howitis
  
  Ah Iranians
  Smell the diversity.
  It’s not that good a smell, actually!
  
  In that DM article there is also mention
  …A third Iranian has been charged with being an accessory after the fact of supplying drugs….
  connected to those two, plus
  …In a separate bust last week, two Iranian nationals were arrested in Sydney, allegedly trying to import almost 10 kilograms of ice hidden in honey jars on a cargo flight to Australia….
  ‘Ice’ there is methamphetamine.
  
  Our problems in NZ are just beginning.
  >>10 years ago the Iranian hunger striker Ali Panah managed to get to stay in NZ. He was backed by Keith Locke. With friends like that….
  
  >>In 2016 this set of Iranian criminals ended up with jail sentences.:-
  ….The woman at the centre of a $9.2 million mortgage fraud will spend at least two and half years in prison for her offending.
  Eli Devoy, 47, was sentenced today to five years imprisonment by Judge Brooke Gibson in the Auckland District Court.
  Judge Gibson said there was a high level of “pure deceit and dishonesty” involved in Devoy’s offending, which saw her use previous names and false documents to obtain lending for Auckland properties…
  …Of her brothers, Mehrdad Ghorbani was found guilty of six charges and sentenced to two years and seven months in jail.
  Mehrzad Ghorbani was found guilty of four charges, having pleaded guilty to one charge prior to trial. He was sentenced to ten months home detention.
  A third brother, Mehran Ghorbani, pleaded guilty to two charges before trial and was sentenced to seven months home detention.
  Devoy’s sister-in-law, Nasrin Kardani, was found guilty of obtaining by deception and will be sentenced next month…
  
  There was no suggestion these grubby criminals will be deported at the end of the sentence. At $100,000 pa to incarcerate they should do one year then straight to a plane. Goneburger.
  
  >>We have Iranians that wont shake the hand of cabinet ministers when guests in our country.
  
  >>We had that slapper piece if Iranian trash all over the news 2 year ago as promoted by TV3 and other media: Naz Khanjani
  
  >>We just won’t deport trash here. Only last October here in NZ:
  …Iranian diplomat Hormoz Ghahremani gave an “inflammatory” speech at an Auckland mosque.
  An Iranian diplomat has been accused of fuelling radicalism with a fiery, anti-Israel speech at an Auckland mosque.
  Jewish community leaders want Hormoz Ghahremani, first secretary of the Iranian Embassy, to be expelled after he appeared alongside speakers who denied the Holocaust and called for the “surgical removal” of Israel. …
  
  >>Then we have the crim-hugger Gobby Golriz involved in a twitter war with David Seymour just today. Ghahraman’s twitter:
  … Just ran into David Seymour. He asks: “Would it be ok if I was wearing the man version of the ‘Got Meat’ T-shirts then?”- The answer is no, David. Don’t call anyone a piece of meat using nude cow/human sexualised pictures on campus…it’s totally possible to BBQ without it..
  from
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/101841294/act-mp-david-seymour-defends-meat-club-tshirt-with-womans-silhouette
  
  Wisely Seymour replied
  ….The MP who thinks it’s ok women should be forced to wear the burqa, who defends men who refuse to shake hands with elected women in New Zealand, also thinks Meat Club t-shirts featuring men and women with cow heads should be the subject of a moral crusade!…
  
  Gobby Golriz the refugee (???) and crim defender is here to tell people how to think.
  That is so much power for a first list year list MP who only got to the NZ Parliament on the special votes.
  This mascara marxist has as her banner on her twitter account
  “One of the greatest threats to human and nature’s rights is the subjugation of democracy to corporate interests”
  Who is voting for the TPP then?
  
  Despite perhaps being conversant with technology Gobby Golriz has not updated her profile on Linked In during the last 5 months to show she is a paid MP but, verging on treason, she shows she is still a spy for the UN to go and tittle tattle on us.
  Perhaps in this new age she does not ‘identify as an MP’ despite the regular pay and prefers to protest outside Waihopai!
  
  This is the standard of Iranian we get in NZ, just from the last two years:-
  -$9.5 m mortgage fraudsters
  -A slapper with plastic boobs trying to get on trashy TV shows
  -A Gobby ‘barely there’ MP fantasist/crim defender who wants to get in our face and tell us how to live, think, dress, and behave
  -Iranian diplomat that don’t recognise women’s rights
  -Another Iranian so-called diplomat with open hate speech and does not recognise Israel’s right to exist.
  
  Is there any counter that Iranians in NZ are not trashy, gobby, criminals ?
  
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  February 28, 2018 4:33pm
  - stephieboy
    
    howitis , nice if you would source those claims about Iranians.
    
    Other than that your post is utter gibberish !
    
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    February 28, 2018 6:38pm
    - howitis
      
      Hey stinkieboy(s)
      I would not normally respond to trolling fuckwits but this time I will oblige since it is possible you dragged your carcass over here from a shithole and are feeling non-integrated or can’t find a nice camel to settle down with; or you are still with your fellow semi-literate goat herders in a shithole and trolling from afar.
      
      here are some links
      now say ‘thank you, sir’ or piss off and go shag a goat, you member of the exploding religion.
      
      There is this thing called Google.
      It is on a c o m p u t e r
      
      you enter eg
      ‘Eli Devoy’ and you get lots of r e s u l t s (I’m typing s l o w so you can keep up) eg
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/83259012/eli-devoy-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison-for-mortgage-fraud
      or
      https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/devoy-guilty-92m-mortgage-fraud-hm-190503
      
      Here is your mate Naz complete with fake boobs – very graphic
      You might spill your seed over this and Goat wife No 3 will miss out tonight
      http://www.flava.co.nz/spy/the-bachelors-naz-khanjani-has-fake-breasts-and-this-is-why/
      or
      https://www.instagram.com/nazzfitness/?hl=en
      Lots of pictures there for stiffie to spill seed over , try the one in orange undies that is better than one will see at St Lukes Mall in school holidays.
      
      Your rotten Iranian ‘diplomat’ … yeah right
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/98300391/iran-diplomat-under-fire-for-antiisrael-speech-in-auckland
      
      Now some reciprocation s’il vous plait as I answered your question :-
      Your lot don’t like dogs or pigs but are happy to get ‘very friendly’ with goats and camels.
      Do you see any incongruity here?
      
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      February 28, 2018 10:38pm
- wombatge
  
  They are an example of what happens when do gooders take control of the borders.
  They won’t get sent back as Iran refuses to take them.
  Maybe Cindy will open her borders to them.
  We can live in hope.
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:44pm
DigNap15

Why are those bugs in the Japanese called Stink Bugs?

That does not seem to be a Japanese or latin or entomological name.
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February 28, 2018 3:29pm
- cmm
  
  ummm, coz they stink ?!?!?!
  
  There are also similar stink bugs in Africa. They release some awful smelling/tasting stuff when threatened by predators or crushed. Some also release a stink to attract mates.
  
  Some stink bugs can actually forcefully spray the muck.
  
  From wonkapedia:”The odor from the stink bug is due to trans-2-decenal and trans-2-Octenal. The smell has been characterized as a “pungent odor that smells like coriander.” The stink bug’s ability to emit an odor through holes in its abdomen is a defense mechanism meant to prevent it from being eaten.”
  
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  February 28, 2018 5:15pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  That would be a “kame mushi” （カメムシ) literally “turtle bug.” (Ref in Japanese https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A1%E3%83%A0%E3%82%B7)
  
  They are found in Auckland, especially if you have a vegetable garden and grown tomatoes.
  
  Note: You pronounce “kame mushi” as “kah-meh moo-shi”
  
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  February 28, 2018 5:33pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Stink bugs are also known as Shield Bugs
  
  They belong to the Pentatomidae family of Insects.
  
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  February 28, 2018 10:30pm
DigNap15

It would be great to be a white South African farmer right now.

They are being murdered at a steady rate, now they are going to be thrown off their land.
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February 28, 2018 3:32pm
- lofty
  
  Another exodus of Afrikaners incoming??
  
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  February 28, 2018 4:05pm
  - cmm
    
    Hard to see that happening unless they have some money stashed outside the country. Most of the more mobile young professionals with portable skills left long ago. Those that are left are mainly those that are pretty much stuck.
    
    If you have 4 generations invested in improving the land and nowhere to go with it, then I can see why someone might just say WTF and make a stand.
    
    Some people just don’t want to see the writing on the wall. My sister (a qualified nurse) and her husband (diesel mechanic) moved to Uk, but then moved back to South Africa about 20 years ago. They, and their teenage kids are now trapped having blown all their reserves and by a shitty education system that makes it really hard to build up a portable skill set.
    
    Not good for anyone!
    
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    February 28, 2018 5:07pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      yup, now the country is truly fucked. It will be worse than Zimbabwe, at least there they only took the land. In SA, they like to kill for the fun of it.
      Love this quote: “Malema has been leading calls for land confiscation, forcing the ANC to follow suit out of fear of losing the support of poorer black voters. In 2016, he told supporters he was “not calling for the slaughter of white people’ at least for now”.
      
      Fucking Cunt
      
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      February 28, 2018 10:11pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Here we go. Revolution on the way?
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12003693
  
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  February 28, 2018 4:25pm
- Lance
  
  There goes SA down the shitter
  
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  February 28, 2018 4:34pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Kicking all the white farmers off their land worked so well for black Zimbabwe.
    
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    February 28, 2018 5:14pm
- cmm
  
  “now they are going to be thrown off their land”
  
  It is not starting now. It has already been going on for decades.
  
  What is changing is:
  1) No more compensation.
  2) Likely no more due process on establishing who really has rights to ownership.
  
  I wonder if the principle is going to be applied consistently with all blacks being thrown off their land and all land being given back to the Koi San?
  
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  February 28, 2018 5:19pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    There is a downticker here who is an expert on South African politics. Why does he/she /it not go there and maybe look into getting a necklace?
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:17pm
VicParking

National missed a chance by not going with Crusher.
Her question to the Minister of Transport.
“………Why is it under his watch we have had four rail strikes in the last four months but none in the nine years before that”
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February 28, 2018 4:09pm
Manolo

Confirmed. It is the post Obama-effect!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-27/u-s-consumer-confidence-at-17-year-high-as-tax-cuts-take-hold

U.S. consumer confidence jumped to a 17-year high as optimism about employment prospects grew and Americans began seeing additional money in their paychecks from recently enacted tax cuts, data from the New York-based Conference Board showed Tuesday.
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February 28, 2018 4:11pm
- cmm
  
  Looks like stephei’s going to need a bigger squirrel.
  
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  February 28, 2018 4:20pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    I recommend Marvel’s “Squirrel Girl” for stephi.
    
    (She eats nuts and kicks butts…)
    
    (Squirrel Girl, that is; not our stephie.)
    
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    February 28, 2018 5:38pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo , you devotion and zeal to your master continues to astound ,
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLNc21iGtUE
  
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  February 28, 2018 7:42pm
Suze Wainwright

Was it just me, or did Winston look slightly uncomfortable during the questioning of Ron Mark today? Certainly no jumping up from his seat to ask supplementaries to assist a floundering minister.
He actually looked as though he was diverting his gaze somewhat – certainly not nodding and smiling at Mr Mark in the same way that NZ First toadies do behind himself continuously during question time…
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February 28, 2018 4:36pm
EAD_TWO

Does anyone know what has happened to Realityczech/Kea?

Has he/she been perma-banned from Kiwiblog?
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February 28, 2018 5:07pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  No he is posting under different names,
  
  sometimes Jason Johns, mostly EAD_TWO
  
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  February 28, 2018 5:12pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    I can hand on heart confirm I am not RealityCzech/Kea ???
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:44pm
- mandk
  
  Realityczech/Kea has scored 12 strikes in total.
  The comments policy says 10 gets a permanent ban.
  
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  February 28, 2018 5:26pm
Jack5

South Africa votes to seize white-owned land.

God, help save the Afrikaaners: first, from us; and now, from the blacks.

If you marched against the Springbok tour, did you help bring this about?

WIll the Leftists be generous in letting in white refugees? Well, no, Jacinderella, they aren’t Muslims.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12003693
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February 28, 2018 5:22pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack 5 , voice of reason and common-sense from your link,
  
  Thandeka Mbabama from the Democatic Alliance party, which opposed the motion, said there was a need to right the wrongs of the past but expropriation “cannot be part of the solution”.
  
  “By arguing for expropriation without compensation, the ANC has been gifted the perfect scapegoat to explain away its own failure,” she said in a statement.
  
  “Making this argument lets the ANC off the hook on the real impediments — corruption, bad policy and chronic underfunding. Expropriation without compensation would severely undermine the national economy, only hurting poor black people even further.”
  
  No argument about that!
  
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  February 28, 2018 6:32pm
  - Jack5
    
    Stupid Stephie X is out of date on moves to expropriate white-owned land in South Africa – without compensation.
    
    Stephiestani Bullcasting Corporation versus:
    
    1. An Australian source:
    
    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/the-time-for-reconciliation-is-over-south-africa-votes-to-confiscate-whiteowned-without-compensation/news-story/a8a81155995b1adc1c399d3576c4c0bc
    
    2. BBC News:
    
    http://www.bbc.com/news/topics/cq23pdgvyl7t/south-africa
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:07pm
  - cmm
    
    Ramaphosa is trying to turn over a leaf for the ANC. They are trying to make it look like all the corruption is now gone with Zuma and the best way to shift the focus is by ratcheting up the land issue.
    
    The corruption is nowhere near finished. It is completely systematic from top to bottom.
    
    Africa is now finally Africa from head to toe. Sure, Cape Town is the only city in Africa that is not majority black, but it is on the skids and as good as gone.
    
    The University of Cape Town (where I went to uni in the 1980s) was the first real university in Africa (discounting religious colleges) and is now fucked – with science being adjusted to be more African.
    
    The last glimmers of westernism that have brought prosperity, peace and wealth to Africa is being snuffed out.
    
    Well, Africa, you had greatness, you had a chance and you have made a choice.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:12pm
Longknives

The NZ Media are now playing the ‘It’s no big deal’ card over National having Two Maori leaders…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/101833829/political-representation-becoming-more-diverse-but-so-what

“Identity politics mattered to people, but there were more substantive things to discuss”

What a remarkable flip flop from Stuff- Who were literally creaming themselves over the “wonderful diversity” Jacinda and Kelvin Davis brought to the Election last year!
Think how many times Media Commentators bemoaned National as the Party of ‘Old White Men…
Fucking hypocrites.
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February 28, 2018 5:40pm
- nasska
  
  ….”bemoaned National as the Party of ‘Old White Men…”…..
  
  They had their guns spiked over that little ploy yesterday. I can’t imagine how the MSM in their role of Labour’s PR Team are going to paint a party with young Maori leaders as racist or full of old men.
  
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  February 28, 2018 5:51pm
  - Longknives
    
    Yep
    Can you imagine what Laura Walters from Stuff would be shrieking if National had selected two White Men as their leaders?
    
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    February 28, 2018 6:23pm
- stephieboy
  
  Longknives , that must be in the 1960s where you were celebrating your 80th.
  
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  February 28, 2018 6:25pm
  - Longknives
    
    Love your work Stephieboy!
    *I was born in 1975…
    
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    February 28, 2018 6:53pm
    - nasska
      
      ….”I was born in 1975″….
      
      Christ! I was a grandfather before you had your first wank! 🙂
      
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      February 28, 2018 7:06pm
      - Longknives
        
        ‘Every Sperm is Sacred’ for us Catholic-Educated lads Nasska!
        
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        February 28, 2018 7:20pm
    - stephieboy
      
      LK , now who would have thought ?
      
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      February 28, 2018 7:16pm
    - Jack5
      
      Longknives, it’s no use giving the duty Stephie the year in figures! He can’t calculate your age from that. Too hard.
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:10pm
Viking2

KICKED RIGHT UPSTAIRS
John Key, who is now ANZ NZ’s chairman, was appointed to the ANZ Group board of directors today. That’s another AU$240,000 in director’s fees. (As Prime Minister his salary was NZ$471,049, plus a tax-free allowance of NZ$22,606. He donated his salary as PM to charity, a practice that hasn’t been adopted since.)
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February 28, 2018 5:41pm
- Gabby
  
  Ponyboy donated SOME OF his salary to a charity that may not have been entirely without connexion with his own political party.
  
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  February 28, 2018 10:13pm
VicParking

Disgrace! Prime news is showing a pro Syrian Government news article. Meanwhile the Syrian Government is dropping Barrel Bombs and no mention.
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February 28, 2018 5:43pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes good to see some balance.
  All we ever see is bombs being dropped and children crying and talking.
  Look at the rest of Syria!
  Its about time the rebels realise they have lost and surrender, and let the civilians get on wit their lives
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:16pm
starboard

Weirdos and filthy perverts..away with you.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/101835967/rainbow-lgbtti-diversity-needs-to-be-more-than-a-token-effort
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February 28, 2018 5:56pm
- stephieboy
  
  starboard , do you continue to scratch your scrotum and wonder why hardly anybody ever takes you seriously ?
  
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  February 28, 2018 6:28pm
  - Swifty
    
    The lack of self awareness is strong in this one.
    
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    February 28, 2018 6:45pm
- Andrei
  
  “LGBTTI”??? I can’t keep up with these alphabet sexualities
  
  Look at these utterly vapid people always shoving their deviancy and depravity down our throats.
  
  Meanwhile David Seymore is in the shit from some total airhead Green MPs for wearing a T shirt they don’t approve of
  
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  February 28, 2018 6:34pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Look at these utterly vapid people always shoving their deviancy and depravity down our throats.</i?
    
    Close your mouth, Andrei.
    
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    February 28, 2018 7:16pm
    - Andrei
      
      A dangerous metaphor to have used I see it now Maggy.
      
      Take a bow
      
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      February 28, 2018 7:25pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Andrei , does that kind of meat do something for you ?
    
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    February 28, 2018 7:18pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Back in the gutter Stephie-addicted?
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:00pm
    - Jack5
      
      One of the horny, teenage Stephies is on duty tonight.
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:05pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Golly G loves selfies with mass murderers but hates funny T shirts
    
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    February 28, 2018 7:51pm
    - Jack5
      
      Golly did refer to Seymour as “David”, as though he was one of her mates.
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:08pm
  - Jack5
    
    Just a second, Stuff tells us LGBTTI = lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, takatāpui, intersex.
    
    The Maori-English online dictionary I looked at listed “takatāpui” as meaning “kid”.
    
    Is this really its meaning in English? If so, this acronym is getting into deep waters.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:17pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      H.W. Williams 1975: A dictionary of the Maori Language (7th ed) defines takatāpui as:
      Intimate companion of the same sex.
      
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      February 28, 2018 8:25pm
      - Jack5
        
        Thank you, Maggy.
        
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        February 28, 2018 8:37pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Surely Ms Ghahraman has heard of the Minotaur.
    
    Or don’t Persians learn the Greek Myths?
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:54pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Probably not. Given what happened at the Granicus, Issus and Gaugamela, maybe they aren’t in a hurry to be reminded what Alexander the Great, and the culture he brought with him did to their soon-to-be-deceased empire. ?
      
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      February 28, 2018 9:00pm
      - rangitoto
        
        Well they did chalk up Thermopylae, although the ancients claimed it was a million Persians versus 300 Spartans, 700 Thespians, and 400 Thebans. Even so the Greeks lost because they were betrayed. Mind you the Greeks quickly got their revenge at Salamis and Plataea.
        
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        February 28, 2018 10:29pm
  - Gabby
    
    Seemore does love the Coq meat.
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:09pm
- Longknives
  
  I’m not sure how a person’s sexuality is relevant to the workplace?
  Surely the LGBTI Community aren’t shrieking and demanding even more special treatment??
  
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  February 28, 2018 7:17pm
nasska

“I’m proud to be a lesbian”, said the lesbian

“I’m proud to be a gay man”, said the gay man

“I’m proud to be straight”, said the homophobe
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February 28, 2018 7:49pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  “I’m proud to be a Black”, said the African
  
  “I’m proud to be a Jew”, said the Jew
  
  “I’m proud to be White”, said the far right Nazi extremist racist as he was bundled into the Police Van for “hate speech”
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:33pm
Maggy Wassilieff

At last, an evolutionary explanation for why there are so many Alt-right trumpeters on KB.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/28/hate-body-odour-youre-more-likely-to-have-rightwing-views
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February 28, 2018 8:16pm
- nasska
  
  The dirtiest, most smelly bastard I ever came across used to drink in a pub in Upper Hutt Maggy. Those were the days when we used to cart hay over the hill & by the time we stopped for a brew on the way home we had a thirst you could photograph.
  
  Anyway this coot used to sit alone & unloved on a leaner in the busy public bar with a leaner’s worth of empty space around him. Worked at a local sawmill, lived in someone’s sleepout & hadn’t bathed since Adam played fullback for the Jews.
  
  He wore a woollen, bush singlet that his body hair had actually grown through!
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:29pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I’m afraid that working amongst hormonally-charged youth who had forgotten to change their sox for a full rugby season nearly destroyed my olfactory neurons…. but I reckon I’m well on the way to recovery and won’t be voting Green any time soon.
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:35pm
  - Kimbo
    
    So what was this local Labour MP’s name? ?
    
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    February 28, 2018 8:35pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  If you look (and smell) the unkept strays and misfits that turn up and left wing “protests”, it is clear that personal hygiene is not a higj priority of theirs.
  
  The worst one is the green activist with the platted sh*tlocks they try to pass for “hair”.
  
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  February 28, 2018 8:37pm
  - Gabby
    
    You been sniffin the protesters again eadolf?
    
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    February 28, 2018 10:05pm
Jack5

Becroft’s suggesting letting people vote from the age of 16.

Yet he’s also been suggesting getting people kept out of the adult court system until age 19.

Old enough to vote but not old enough to stand open trial.

What makes Becroft tick?

Time to pension this do-gooder off to some UN organisation.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12003769
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February 28, 2018 8:59pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Quite so Jack5. Becroft is certainly an unusual dude.
  And a dangerous one.
  
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  February 28, 2018 9:10pm
Jack5

The politically correct petals are murdering English. Take this use of plural pronouns to avoid a singular pronoun with gender:

A lower North Island student who was allegedly goaded to commit suicide by classmates on a school camp bus trip later tried to kill themselves twice.

This is from the Stuff report linked to below.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/101787170/school-accused-of-mishandling-students-double-suicide-attempt
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February 28, 2018 9:42pm
Rachael Membery

As for this late piece of news regarding Winston and the Nats… No case to answer!!!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12003896
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February 28, 2018 10:59pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Was this why Ron Mark was rolled?
  
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  February 28, 2018 11:47pm
- rangitoto
  
  I’m expecting barely sober to announce that he is sorry for spouting bullshit. For Winnie it was just a trick to justify to his dimwitted supporters for not going with the Nats.
  
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  March 1, 2018 12:31am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Rachael,
  It appears The herald have pulled the story, and a similar one on Newstalk has also disappeared.
  Red Radio are quoting Peters’ lawyer saying that the action is continuing despite him paying some costs.
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/351512/peters-legal-action-against-national-party-continuing-lawyer
  
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  March 1, 2018 7:40am
DigNap15

Winston was so fired up about, now he gives up the case and pays Nationals costs
Will some journalist please tell us why, what has happened.
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March 1, 2018 6:21am
Jack5

Now it’s British judges who are going PC in language.

Terms they’re advised not to use include: ethnic minority; Afro-Caribbean; and transsexual.
And a postman should be called a postal operative.

What with its persecution of British veterans and crap like this, the term “British justice” is coming to mean fuck all.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5447565/Judge-tells-colleagues-not-say-postman-immigrant.html
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