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KiWombat

WeeWinnie has left instructions with his staff that he is to be awakened at any time in the event of a national emergency, even if he is in a cabinet meeting
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February 23, 2018 8:01am
- ztev
  
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  That was Reagans joke.
  The Trump version says he can be interrupted any time hes watching daytime TV
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:07am
  - holysheet
    
    The mother of the child of the nation version is she can be interrupted at any time while soaking gaylords nuts.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:16am
    - G152
      
      That’s milking it 🙂
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:58am
      - Longknives
        
        My understanding is that he has plenty of others to milk his nuts…
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:33am
  - KiWombat
    
    He’s got a mechanical mind – too bad he forgot to wind it up this morning !
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:21am
- Happychappy
  
  Looking at the way he looks in seems like he is high on some drug and pumped full of Steriods.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:41am
  - GazzaW
    
    Pumped full of something more basic I think given the timing of Question Time straight after lunch.
    
    He used to be very sharp and quite humorous but now he’s pure cringe material.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:59am
- VicParking
  
  How do they know when he is awake or asleep
  
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  February 23, 2018 10:14am
  - softail 1450
    
    vicparking, his hand,whiskey bottle,simple really .
    
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    February 23, 2018 11:53am
    - Harkman
      
      Our Winnie, the Father Jack (from Father Ted) of world politics.
      
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      February 23, 2018 6:24pm
Right of way is Way of Right

A ‘Cri de cour’ today!

A young man took his own life yesterday.

Who he was, and where he was is not something I am able to share, but it happened within 150 meters of where I am sitting and typing now.

It has affected our small community greatly, and those of us with experience in things like this, and there are many of us who have, are on tenterhooks, looking at everyone around us for signs that someone else who is struggling may now see this as a viable option as well. While we are doing this, friends and family are dealing with their own grief, and we are trying to support everyone as best as we can.

It saddens me greatly that we have built up this culture of masculinity over generations, boys don’t cry, don’t be a sook, don’t be a wimp. For many of us men, life is HARD. On one side, we are told that we have to be tough, we have to be strong, yet we also have to be in touch with our feelings, to be kind and nurturing. We’re told to spend time with our children, but how many of us have been out playing with our children or grandchildren and felt as though we are being watched and silently judged. We are asked to help with the raising of our children, yet in in this world, some men have been driven out of public baby change facilities because apparently they are for women only!

While equality for women is still some way off, it is an honourable and necessary goal. I embrace the ideals that it espouses. I just wish that equality between the sexes went both ways sometimes.

Women only gyms are fine, men only barbers are evil.

A strong woman working in a male dominated field is applauded. We now have more female lawyers in New Zealand than male, but a man who wants to work in early childhood education or in a primary school is ‘dodgy’

A female doctor no longer draws comment. A male nurse is a lampoonable concept, have you seen “Meet the Parents?”

A woman can be anything she wants to be! So can a man, to be honest, but some men still feel they must sacrifice a part of their ‘masculinity’ to be something other than what they are.

Sometimes, that masculine self image can stop a man reaching out for help when they really need to. I’m glad that when that moment happened to me that I was able to reach out for help. I found it, it made me stronger, no less masculine, it just redefined what being a man was. I did get some sideways glances, some strange encounters, but I also found my real friends! I know I will never be in that position again. Life is great!

I wish I could have told this young man all of this, but he’s gone, and it’s quite possible that another young man will take his life today as well, another sacrifice to the great cult of masculinity.
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February 23, 2018 8:02am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Awesome post, journey well as a community over the next weeks.
  
  You all have my sympathies
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:07am
- waikatogirl
  
  Sorry to hear of the loss in your neighbourhood ROWIWOR.
  
  Those who state the way life must be are the noisy minority. The more sensible majority treat men and women as equals without the judgement.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:14am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  You have touched on an issue permeating Western society which we are paying a huge price for.
  Masculinity, more specifically the positive aspects of masculine traits, have been undermined and framed in a negative narrative led in part by radical feminism, aided and abetted by political correctness and a move away from traditional parenting methods. Is it any wonder our young men are raised in a society that points them toward crisis of identity?
  Our appalling suicide rates bear testament to this yet where are the howls of outrage?
  Give boys what they need; allow rough play, encourage risk taking activity, positive role models and most importantly, give them responsibility.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:27am
  - Random T Person
    
    Watch Jordan B Peterson on YouTube for more on that Salacious.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:48am
- Huevon
  
  Great post!
  
  In our feminist society, as a man you are largely on your own. That’s why it is so important to maintain friendships with a few men you can count on. It certainly helped me through a dark period.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:33am
- stephieboy
  
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  Right of way is Way of Right,, the questions remains why did he actually suicide tragic as it might be .
  
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  Bullying at school or in the neighbourhood ? Lack of academic or job skills . ?Drinking or drugging issues arising from family or girlfriend problems etc.?
  
  You see it could be a large number of things other than our so called “ wicked”feminist or cultural marxist society ?
  Or whatever .
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:58am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Instead of putting your complete lack of grace or tact on display for the world to see Stephieboy, why not ask yourself; what could be the root cause of “these large number of things” as you put it.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:07am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    I know why he took his own life, and it is not a subject for public discussion. What I do not know is why he didn’t reach out for help.
    
    I didn’t mention anything at all about feminism, or cultural Marxism. I talked about masculinity and how we define it. How the hell does a response like yours help in a situation like this?
    
    Screw your ideologies, HOW DO WE STOP YOUNG MEN KILLING THEMSELVES!!!
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:29am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      From my facebook page, 7th February this year:
      
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      I don’t know how to find the words to describe that sinking feeling when you lose another friend to suicide. It’s a sadness and shock that encompasses you and jolts you to your core. Realizing you will never share a laugh or a beer with them again, and how much their family hurts, when they would have done anything to ease your pain that was hidden. Please. if you ever think that suicide will fix your problems, tell someone! Too many good people are leaving us with their life unfinished.
      
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      Sorry for you and your communities loss ROW.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:47am
    - stephieboy
      
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      A complex problem that defies simple solutions . However more background information is needed on the personal circumstances of the suicide to provide possible solutions .
      
      Not just a issues of Masculinity IMO
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:11am
      - Right of way is Way of Right
        
        Sorry SB, not buying it.
        
        Are you really saying that every suicide must be addressed as an individual issue? Using that logic, then no suicide is preventable as each one is an individual expression of circumstances. That’s a flawed premise.
        
        In any case, it’s not about what drives a person to suicide, those reasons are many and varied. We need to identify how we encourage those people in dark places to reach for the light again.
        
        When someone is at the end of a rope, you don’t ask them how they got there, you pull them up!
        
        I’m trying to tell them that the light is here! Why do you want to find out why they are heading in to darkness before they are allowed to reach for the light again?
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:42am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @RofWis Wof Right
        
        We need to identify how we encourage those people in dark places to reach for the light again.
        
        I believe you’ve hit on a key point.
        
        54 years ago when my mother shot herself, suicide was a hush-hush topic. It was a shameful thing to tell others that such a catastrophe had befallen your family. Even years later people leapt to foolish conclusions… someone must have been to blame for /caused her to suicide.
        
        What is changing, is that our society is waking up to the fact that suicide is not a rare event. Few of us have been untouched by a suicide or suicide attempts by a family member, a friend or an acquaintance.
        
        For those of us that have been through a dark passage or walked with those in the depths of despair, we know that the sun will shine again, we know that we will make mistakes in life, stumble and fall.
        
        Years back, our heroes never spoke of their failures, their vulnerabilities or their despair. I think guys like John Kirwan and Mike King are on the right track by talking about depression and feelings of hopelessness.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:49am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      How do we stop young men killing themselves?
      
      A man will not reach out for help for several reasons, including:
      – He believes that there is nobody he can ask for help.
      – He believes that his life is worth less than the trouble he will cause by asking for help (to take the Japanese line).
      – He does not trust the people who could help him.
      – He believes that to ask for help would mean a loss of face.
      
      Today’s society acts as if there is nothing more worthless than the life of a young man.
      
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      February 23, 2018 11:32am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        And
        – He believes that he can’t be helped, that his problems are insurmountable.
        
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        February 23, 2018 3:53pm
  - Huevon
    
    Stephie is quite happy for young men to kill themselves if they believe they will get 72 virgins in heaven
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:50am
    - VicParking
      
      Stephie prays for 72 Goats ??
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:16am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Not now.
    Just not now.
    How can you not know that?
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:39am
- GoVege
  
  Very, very sad and a terrible loss.
  I feel we need to show more compassion to each other.
  About ten years ago a young man jumped off the roof of my sister’s high rise building.
  I was horrified when I heard that a woman who lived there saw him sitting there for hours, thought “he might be going to do that”, but did nothing.
  Sometimes just a kind word or smile is all that somebody needs to bring them back from the edge.
  
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  February 23, 2018 11:35am
- Piniwi
  
  Sad Right but while old values and attitudes might have played a roll there is a whole new world along with a new set of perimeters the young people have to battle today. We might suspect it is very unlikely there would be too many seeing or commenting on KB so we can not see it as they see it.
  While much is now attributed to the fragile or flawed mental state of many it is also the social influences and platforms that are as big a danger. Sadly it is too late if they get so desperate to go that far before anybody near and dear gets any indication they are so deeply down. The best an untrained family member can do is a form of diversion from this path to generate an alternative path and purpose before the point of no return is reached. While many see life as a beach we soon learn to avoid the rips and hidden perils so paddle along in the shallows.
  Like having to gain the demands of parenthood it is greater challenge to go further than puberty to help with the challenging barriers of living for some.
  
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  February 23, 2018 7:01pm
holysheet

Breaking News
The Oxford Dictionary has responded to the higher than normal use of the word Stephieboy in New Zealand by including it in the dictionary definition of the word Stupid.
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February 23, 2018 8:02am
cmm

Hi stephie

Galaxy command comms is working well now, but I have lost contact with the intel and wetwork teams. Strange.

Not good news from galaxy command though. Sorry.

It seems you wasted your time standing outside in the rain with your toothbrush all week. Sorry.

All these apologies start to make me sound like David Cunliffe.

Anyway they decided to go with the Ukrainian taxi driver for new supreme leader of our galaxy. The decision is made way above my grade and I only found out about that 5 minutes ago. Sorry.

Perhaps I should have told you that the people of our galaxy revere the clitoris.

You know how many cultures can be summed up with two words? Australia: Fosters and kangaroos; UK: rain and whinging; New Zealand: rugby and pies; France: snails and surrendering.
Well my galaxy is karaoke and clitoris. Now personally I don’t like karaoke, but I’ll go for a double serve of clit. Anyway I digress…

They were very concern that you seem keen on using a rusty razor blades in the female genital department. Apparently that counted against you quite a lot. I tried to tell them your dental hygiene made up for it, but that was not enough.

You can see their point. Imagine Labour trying to get into power if Jacinda said she would ban pies. She wouldn’t even get that past Robbo – let alone the whole population.

Also the taxi driver’s karaoke is bloody good even though this really hot chick in the wetwork team managed to French kiss him and give him a bad cold. Even I clapped and I’m about the only person in our galaxy that hates karaoke.

The inspection team with the coffee cups did say they were impressed by your toothbrush, so that’s something, but unfortunately not enough on its own.

I still think you have great potential, so I will see if I can find you some other position in galaxy command and maybe you can work up from there to supreme leader. Perhaps we can start you off running a minor planet. That would be a temporary waste of your talents, but I’m sure you would get promoted quickly.

Don’t lose heart yet!
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February 23, 2018 8:04am
- ztev
  
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  Oh you are good … an extra sprinkle of sugar on your porridge this morning at the assisted living breakfast
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:09am
  - itstricky
    
    They say they can’t stand him/her. But here they are, at 2 minutes past the hour, first thing they do in the morning, concocting poems and tributes.
    
    I think it’s love. Pure, can’t stop thinking about you, love.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:35am
    - cmm
      
      stephie has immense talents. They just need to be channeled properly.
      
      The hot chick in the wetwork team used to be in PR and brand development and she’s helping stephie start a new international clothing label called “Comrade Waggie”.
      
      Tshirts should be hitting the US stores by April – just in time for the summer rush.
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:47am
      - itstricky
        
        stephie has immense
        The hot chick
        summer rush
        
        A clear case of ‘love at first post’, if ever I saw one.
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:51am
      - cmm
        
        tricky:
        
        As you will find out in future episodes, the hot chick from wet ops is not currently on the market.
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:33am
  - mandk
    
    Please tell us, ztev.
    
    Why are lefties so completely humourless?
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:35am
    - itstricky
      
      It is strange, isn’t it?
      
      I mean if we look at the above, ztev has automatically gathered himself 19 downticks.
      
      Yet, poppa, below @ 08:22 has pulled out pretty much exactly the same joke, and gets 12 upticks.
      
      I have myself wondering the same thing – why is it that some people are completely humourless?
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:46am
      - hullkiwi
        
        It’s the way you tell them stickypatch. You lefties just can’t do a punch line.
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:54am
      - cmm
        
        Not fair that ztev is getting all the downticks?
        
        Don’t worry I have some for you too!
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:55am
      - softail 1450
        
        itstricky, its because ztev is so thick he still thinks his penis is there to stop him pissing on his feet, and that the knob on the end is to stop his clenched hand from slipping off the end of said penis FFS.
        
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        February 23, 2018 12:04pm
      - Gabby
        
        That’s awfully witty hulky wee.
        
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        February 23, 2018 1:48pm
    - G152
      
      Funny you should see that
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:01am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      The left can’t meme. They don’t understand humour, where we on the right laugh at everything including ourselves, the left only make fun of things they hate (us), which just comes across as sour grapes and misery.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:53am
      - itstricky
        
        They don’t understand humour, where we on the right laugh at everything including ourselves, the left only make fun of things they hate (us), which just comes across as sour grapes and misery.
        
        That’ll explain why my 08:46 got 15 downticks – because you’re all laughing at yourselves so damn hard that you accidentally moused over the sour grapes button.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:09am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Stricky it was because you were defending that humourless prick ztev. As per my point, some people use humour to be funny, others to be nasty at the expense of others.
        
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        February 23, 2018 1:42pm
      - itstricky
        
        because you were defending that humourless prick ztev
        
        No, I wasn’t. I made a observation about two identical jokes. Don’t confuse statements with defence.
        
        per my point
        
        I think you missed my point the Poppa made exactly the same joke and it got judged to be ‘funny’ rather than ‘nasty’
        
        There’s no point beating around the bush, it’s not a case of whether someone is funny or not, it’s a case of whether each of the folk of KB judge the personality to have the right politics for them.
        
        And that’s not “sticking up” for ztev, that just stating a fact of life. And it’s not using some broad stereotyped term like “all tories are too stuck up their own backside to do memes”.
        
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        February 23, 2018 4:30pm
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Oh dear oh dear.
“The husband and son of National MP Barbara Kuriger, along with a company she has shares in, have been charged with multiple animal cruelty offences.”

Shes an award winning dairy farmer in her own right, so cant play the ignorant card.
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February 23, 2018 8:04am
- Poppa
  
  It sounds very much like a hit job by one of your mates Ztev
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:09am
  - ztev
    
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    Lets hope she too wasnt allowed to get away with ‘non cooperation with the authorities’, like that Barclay guy who admitted his criminal acts to his party leaders.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:16am
    - Poppa
      
      On fire today Ztev, the pills are working
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:22am
      - GazzaW
        
        His skills as an ex Ministerial spin doctor are showing through today.
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:10am
      - ztev
        
        Oh … thats another job I have never had. So many delusions
        
        But I think I have picked Jason Ede among the commentators
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:15am
      - GazzaW
        
        Your writing style says different ztev.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:53am
    - kowtow
      
      ztev displaying the left’s traditional contempt for our ancient rights and constitution.
      
      Innocent till proven guilty and the right to silence.
      
      Of course though ztev’s model would be Stalinist.
      
      Guilty cos we say so and confessions extracted under duress. Pour encourage les autres.
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:22am
      - ztev
        
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        Right to silence ?
        Thats OK for private citizens. When you are an elected MP, your arse should be moved so fast out of caucus is you play that game.
        Prebble did it for Donna Awatere, why didnt English do it for Barclay – deputy chair of parliaments Justice committee at the time.
        Then he hid away from parliament- what ever happened to calls for those people to lose pay for non attendance ?
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:35am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        Or in Darren Hughes case, out of the country?
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:38am
      - thedavincimode
        
        Agree entirely ztev.
        
        BTW, you don’t happen to know why klerkula defended phillip field so resolutely for so long do you?
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:40am
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        @ztev. The reason we don’t throw them out of parliament and the party is because we need the greens and labour to maintain at least sufficient members to pretend at usefulness. If everyone in parliament that was accused of wrong doing was cast out, there would be no labour, greens or nz first left.
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:40am
      - kowtow
        
        “When you are an elected MP, your arse should be moved so fast …….’
        
        Darren Hughes knows all about fast moving arse.
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:54am
      - ztev
        
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        Didnt Hughes quit fairly quickly ?
        
        Thats right he doesnt have the advice of nationals go to lawyer ( whose name I wont mention but whose name pops up all the time) on how to stonewall any investigation.
        
        As for ‘the Copyright breech’, seems like Joyce isnt taking responsibility- fairly legal indeed.
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:19am
      - ztev
        
        “Prime Minister Helen Clark announces a Queen’s Counsel will conduct an inquiry into the allegations against Mr Field”. and he lost his ministerial position
        
        Key and English participated in a cover up and pay off of the complainant in the Barclay case. That involved a dodgy use of ‘leaders funds’ to pay someone in a different department.
        
        see the difference.
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:48am
      - GoVege
        
        Funny how the only MPs jailed for “corruption”/ misappropriation of funds were both brown.
        Awatere -Huata’s supporters paid back every cent she owed but they still made her do the time.
        
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        February 23, 2018 12:00pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      Oh goody. ztev wants to play the wall of shame game.
      
      Why don’t you start by listing the one’s on your team – it’ll help you put things in perspective. Remember to include the one’s who were sent to jail – you can remember the one’s who were sent to jail can’t you? Being outed for bare faced lies counts so any current ministers who’ve been forced to confess to “mis-speaking” should be included.
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:24am
      - ztev
        
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        Recording other people conversations is listed in the Crimes Act.
        Barclay asked English if he wanted to hear it! – yet he did nothing
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:37am
      - thedavincimode
        
        yeah yeah yeah … But we’re playing the wall of shame game remember? Do you need some help to get you started on your team? We can start at the top if you like.
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:42am
      - pdm
        
        Here ztev let me help with an example:
        
        Taito Philip Field who did not get the arse card until he directly challenged Clark.
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:47am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        – Bribery and corruption
        – Fighting in a public place
        – Drink driving
        – Fraudulently signing someone else’s painting in order to increase its sale value
        – Giving share buy/sell advice while in possession of inside information
        – Having illegal drugs found in your ministerial car
        – Conviction for sex with an underage girl
        – Sexual assault
        – Assault on school children
        
        These are or were all ministers not backbenchers and I’ve probably missed some. National hasn’t been squeaky clean but they’re a long way from matching this list.
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:21am
      - ztev
        
        PDM.
        Field was dropped from the ministry early on and a QC was asked to conduct an inquiry.
        
        English and Key used government money to pay off the person Barclay was recording, to keep it all quiet.
        He had admitted his crime and yet nothing happened at all. ( ‘do you want to listen to it’)
        
        Field always denied his wrong doing but was expelled from labour when he said he would set up his ‘own party’
        Eventually Field was convicted, Barclay was selected as candidate again before the stink forced him out’.
        A police Superintendent, strangely made the decision to let Barclay off the hook. Unusual to be involved in a minor matter like this but there was a bump in the police budget that year after a long freeze, so assume……
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:57am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Pdm, wall of shame goes back further, like Colin Moyle, or Malcolm Douglas.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:01am
      - Swifty
        
        Field ‘was only guilty of trying to help his constituents’ – according to his Labour mates. A line they stuck to for ages.
        
        They did their best to protect the crook. Same as Goff over Hughes.
        
        Samoan mates had told me for years Field was on the take – and well before the Thai tiler episode broke.
        
        Labour really is the nasty party. And crooked.
        
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        February 23, 2018 2:57pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      ztev: Lets hope she too wasnt allowed to get away with ‘non cooperation with the authorities’
      
      What is happening with the Meteria Turei criminal investigation???
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:37am
      - igm
        
        What about Sepuloni’s mother . . . didn’t hear too much from the likes of Ztrev about that.
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:46am
      - sooty
        
        Tell me again, why did Helen Clark send the airforce to the states to rescue her husband.
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:48am
      - ztev
        
        Poor sooty ?
        Even Wishart couldnt find any thing.
        
        It was fairly easily able to find Prof Davis picture at a soiree in NYC along with his wife , who was working at UN, disproving any claim he wasnt able to enter US.
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:23am
      - stigie
        
        Do you know the Professor quite well ztrev ? Just askin !~
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:08am
      - ztev
        
        Meteria Turei invited Winz to discuss her case. Indeed she self reported !
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:14am
      - Swifty
        
        MeTu knew she was about to be outed – that’s why she front-footed it.
        
        Nothing to do with ‘starting a conversation’ – nor ‘telling her story’. They were bald faced lies.
        
        Makes me puke.
        
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        February 23, 2018 3:00pm
    - Harkman
      
      So team Labour is back to its usual nonsense ramblings.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:23am
- KiWombat
  
  We need to show some compassion for the mentally ill
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:19am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  So absolutely NO scandals brewing within Labour ztev……? You can guarantee there are no aberrant behaviours by members of the red team or their families about to see the cold light of day?
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:32am
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    Are you angling to migrate to US as a “dreamer’ ?
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:41am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      No but I’m looking forward to your butt hurt when the insider stories I’ve heard come to light.
      
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      February 23, 2018 2:43pm
- Swifty
  
  How very revealing.
  
  If ztev had his way due process would be abolished for those he hates.
  
  Righties suspected of a crime? Guilty! And throw away the key!
  
  Lefties? Aw, he’s a good boy and he won’t do it again.
  
  Fascist.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:32am
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    Refusal to cooperate with police- is not usually a position that is tenable in a ‘law and order party’, thats why he should have been expelled from Caucus.
    ( English was the person behind attempts to expel Maurice Williamson from Caucus for merely ‘disunity’)
    
    Surely if he was not involved in a crime he would be eager to ‘clear up any confusion’?
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:47am
    - Swifty
      
      Fascist!
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:58am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        I still hear that in Ricks voice to this day. RIP Rik Mayall.
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:58am
      - ztev
        
        ” in 2011, appeared in character as Alan B’Stard to oppose the proposal to use the Instant-runoff voting system in UK elections”
        dressed as Adolf Hitler for an advert in opposition to the UK joining the euro.
        [The last one would have had heads explode today]
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:17am
      - Swifty
        
        Heh
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:41am
    - Harkman
      
      Phil Goff and Chris Carter “disunity”???
      
      Carter’s punishment was hard time in Kabul (a country that hates gays). A real death sentence.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:28am
      - sooty
        
        Where is Chris Carter theese days?
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:05am
      - ztev
        
        “In September 2015 Chris Carter was appointed as the Senior UN Advisor for Rakhine State in Myanmar”
        seems to be still with the UN.
        Kabul was more of a bomb risk than anything to do with gays
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:27am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Rakhine State, Myanmar
        https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/sunday/audio/2018622186/chris-carter-on-myanmar-aung-san-suu-kyi-doesn-t-have-much-manoeuvrability
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:32am
      - ztev
        
        Not such a cushy gig as running a golf resort…… but we cant talk about that
        . [if only Field had used that approach to keep his name out of the papers]
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:04am
- VicParking
  
  What the MSM has forgotten to mention with this issue is the men are charged as directors of the company not personally. This means the crimes? Could have been carried out by staff. Let’s wait and see before we start stoning people. I would have thought in a fair balanced society the MSM would have been all over the questions asked the government in parliament yesterday. The silence is deafening. The questions the speaker did his best to rule out and to stifle.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:41am
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    A company ‘committing animal cruelty’ ?
    
    Dont be silly, they are personally charged.
    “Louis Stephen Kuriger, Tony Michael Kuriger and Lloyd Timothy Harris’
    
    “The charges are failing to protect animals, failing to prevent suffering and ill-treatment of animals. ”
    
    “A company the trio directs, Oxbow Dairies Ltd, faces the same charges
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:52am
  - G152
    
    I rather suspect that trev is going to be the first speaker to get the sack.
    I detected some resistance to him from the left even
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:06am
    - ztev
      
      Not Trev….. have you been asleep for last year
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:25am
      - softail 1450
        
        ztev ,,????? WTF .thick as pigshit without google.
        
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        February 23, 2018 12:25pm
- oldgolfer
  
  Your joy seems boundless.
  I’d wait for the facts if I were you.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:47am
  - ztev
    
    Yet again, another national MP is involved in a ‘serious investigation’ so soon after the election.
    Things that were known and covered up until after the votes cast.
    A culture of impunity seem to exist- who could have guessed.
    Winstons details get leaked , yet likely Kurigers involvement was kept secret before election, even though investigations have been ongoing for some time.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:00am
    - igm
      
      Is there not a current Government MP under investigation for the typical Labour crime?
      
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      February 23, 2018 11:50am
    - Paulus
      
      What about one of your Ministers and his Stenographic affair ?
      
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      February 23, 2018 1:52pm
    - Happychappy
      
      Can you supply documentation proving this was kept secret from 2017 Election.
      
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      February 23, 2018 3:48pm
- GazzaW
  
  Unlike Taito Field the Kurigers have not been found guilty, disgraced and jailed for a lengthy period.
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:08am
  - GoVege
    
    Isn’t that coz cruelty to animals (and humans) is less important in this place than accepting koha?
    
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    February 23, 2018 12:04pm
- peterwn
  
  Before judging further one would need to know more about what the ‘cruel practices’ were and to what extent the directors were directly involved in the ‘cruel practices’. Also where the practices were active or through neglect. Reading between the lines of the Stuff article the practices were widespread and occurred over time, but were not serious enough as to require an immediate response from the authorities. Until more is known (the prosecution has yet to release the whole dossier to the defence) it is difficult to pre-judge the case. The directors may have believed that the practices (whatever they were) were acceptable. It may be that the practices are on a par with tail docking and the prosecution is a test case on the acceptability of the practice.
  It is rather premature to pass any moral judgment until more is known. A shareholder would not in general be liable for the acts or omissions of a company, but depending on circumstances may have some ‘moral’ responsibility. In this instance the MP may not have turned her mind to the activities of the dairying company involved and was probably unaware of the issues and therefore should not be judged on this at this stage.
  Interesting shareholder responsibilities have been a bit in the spotlight with Fletcher Building. Significant shareholders in a company (and the MP is a significant shareholder in the dairying operation) could be expected in some cases to question the activities of companies they have shares in. This is because they can have access to the Chair, CEO etc which small shareholders generally do not (except over a cup of tea after a company AGM). With Fletcher Building, the NZ Shareholders Association raised questions about Fletcher Building’s governance and management in the hope the significant shareholders could use their clout to seek change.
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:09am
  - ztev
    
    The people have been charged along with the company with animal cruelty. Other instances of a rouge employee would involve that person only not the company
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11491276
    
    Clearly the Kurigers were hands on farmers- I think Nathan Guy MP is more distant type of ‘farmer Mp’ who relies on managers etc.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:34am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Probably still not as cruel as Halal Butchering which your mob have no problem with. Whatever they have been accused of. You seem to know a lot about fuck all.
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:03am
      - ztev
        
        Halal slaughter is common in NZ meatworks. they are stunned first.
        
        Kosher butchery is different and more cruel[ Administering electric shock to an animal prior to shehitah is prohibited]
        Applies to chickens too.
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:32am
    - peterwn
      
      The three people are directors of the farming company. Barbara Kruiger MP was not charged – while she was an active farmer in the past she would also now be a distant type of ‘farmer MP’.
      
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      February 23, 2018 2:07pm
igm

Heard some sickly poofy Canadian sounding wanker, a member of PPTA I think, telling us how it is a good thing a new school is having non-gender specific toilets. Sad day when greasers such of this dictate things sexual to our children via their Labourite leeches who are in Parliament by deceit.
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- ztev
  
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  The toilets are ‘non gender specific’- isnt that a good thing .
  Nothing to do with things sexual- unless you are thinking about an All Black
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:13am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    There are only two genders. That’s a scientifically verifiable fact. Are you a denier?
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:35am
    - ztev
      
      Are you a scientist , you would know that things change
      You have just taken things from high school biology 40 years ago and think nothings changed.
      
      Even in the basics you are ignorant
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:05am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        Before you use the science, you should read the science.
        
        “Parthenogenesis is seen to occur naturally in aphids, Daphnia, rotifers, nematodes and some other invertebrates, as well as in many plants”
        
        Let me guess; you’re of the spineless variety.
        
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        February 23, 2018 2:54pm
    - stephieboy
      
      SC , if your cafe or restaurant have unisex toilets do you hold on till you get home and get either constipated or urinary tract infection ?
      
      Or just do it in your panties there and then ?
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:23am
      - Garbageman
        
        Those unisex toilets would suit a perv like you quite fine i would imagine all those nubile young ladies need to go sometime eh weirdo
        
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        February 23, 2018 12:08pm
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy, if i saw a goatbotherer like you going into a unisex toilet i wouldnt be sending my young children into that bog until you came out.
        
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        February 23, 2018 12:30pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      I’m over these weirdos and their wants. I want my granddaughters to feel safe in going to the “Ladies’ toilet. Likewise, I want my grandsons to feel safe using the “Gents”. I don’t want them to be confused about their gender because some weirdo with a penis wants a vagina or some weirdo with a vagina wants a bloody penis!!!!! What is the world coming to pandering to these morons…..
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:28am
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    What is non gender specific? If you can’t work out if you’ve got one or not you should be seeking help well away from normal people.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:35am
- Huevon
  
  I recently took a dump in the “non gender specific” toilet of an Auckland restaurant. It stank real bad.
  
  #bathroomsarebattlegrounds
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:42am
  - Longknives
    
    Murphy’s Law dictates that there would have been a smoking hot blonde waiting to use the toilet you defiled..
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:44am
  - sam green
    
    What a hero.
    
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    February 23, 2018 11:39am
  - Gabby
    
    Of course it stank real bad hoover on.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:09pm
- VicParking
  
  Is that the Canadian dressed up a an Indian maharaja.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:45am
  - ztev
    
    is that Bill English dressed up as a Samoan chief ?
    
    Leulua’iali’iiotumua Bill English and his wife Dr. Mary English.
    
    http://www.samoaobserver.ws/en/03_06_2017/local/20655/NZ-Prime-Minister-is-a-chief-of-Samoa.htm
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:09am
    - igm
      
      Better than being like you and your ilk . . . they dress as girls.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:24am
      - Gabby
        
        Pretty lame jigm.
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:07pm
    - Harkman
      
      That’s funny ztev, because every night I flick on the news and there’s a young airhead pretending to be Prime Minister.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:33am
      - ztev
        
        Thats the ‘famous Five’ wannabes you are talking about.
        Thats funny, I watched the TV poll which had labour higher than national …some pretend !
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:38am
      - igm
        
        Airhead carrying another illegitimate prospective Labour voter . . . how sick!
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:49am
      - Longknives
        
        “That’s funny ztev, because every night I flick on the news and there’s a young airhead pretending to be Prime Minister.”
        
        Got ‘Em! Yess….(Bill Lawry voice)
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:46am
      - Harkman
        
        Or “tuu for twenty-tuu.” ?
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:32am
      - Gabby
        
        You lending credence to the lyin meeja again hackman?
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:08pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Or Harkman telling solo mothers to not give up hope as they will be given great opportunities from the Region Development slush fund. You just can’t make this shit up.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:04pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  I’m pretty far left on social issues and I don’t much care what other people do in private, or even in public for that matter.
  
  But if there is a filthy old man who wants to prey on young girls, I would like there to be toilets that my two daughters can use and he is not allowed into. That seems like a pretty important feature of the current system that we should be reluctant to give up.
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:33am
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    Are you that stupid.
    
    Non gender specific toilets are just like you have at home. They have a lockable door
    Surely you have seen these type in the street all the time ?
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:41am
    - tf78
      
      Lockable door so two could be in there without anyone else seeing them – I think it’s a very dangerous prospect for young ones who could be taken in there and bashed/ bullied for being transgender! Their protection would be gone, open area toilets are much safer in reality.
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:41am
  - kowtow
    
    So you’re a lefty till lefty policies affect you personally ?
    
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    February 23, 2018 12:10pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Isn’t that the rule of lefty politics?
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:41pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  If I were a girl I would not want to share toilets with pubescent boys. Odious creatures who delight in antisocial behaviour (and desperate for any sort of attention from girls)
  
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  February 23, 2018 11:17am
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From today’s “diversity is vibrant & enriching and they are great for the economy” files………. Police in the UK have warned customers to stop calling them over a KFC shortage

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836

The 2 police forces mentioned in the article are Whitefield and Tower Hamlets which are of course 2 of the most errr “diverse” places in the UK.

The official state propaganda insists that diversity is worth it because of the amazing food the Third World brings us, yet when the fried chicken runs out pandemonium ensues:

Morgoths Review notes:

Would the Cockneys of old have called an emergency police response team (they didn’t exist anyway) because they’d ran out of jellied eels? the very idea is ridiculous.

But therein lies the problem, such a people are not dependent on either the state or the multinationals and as such represent a potential threat to both. The so called ”KFC Crisis” allows us a glimpse at the manner in which the pincers of High Finance and a controlled political establishment close and come together:

1. The imported immigrant population are aware that the state will cater to their every whim and obey their every command.

2. The imported immigrant population expect an unending feast of ”gibsmedat” goodies to trickle from the capitalist table.

What’s interesting to note is that the incessant ”pandering to minorities” by the various organs of the state infuriates the native whites, but at the same time it can be seen as a form of control over the immigrant population because they’re becoming inured to calling on the state for the tiniest infraction of their lethargic existence. The imported aliens are not ”free agents” in any meaningful sense, they’ve been reduced to a docile cattle class of greedy and entitled consumers who feel aggrieved and panicked when their supply of greasy slop takeaway fodder has been impeded.

http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.co.nz/2018/02/living-in-mad-house-tower-hamlets-and.html?m=1
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February 23, 2018 8:11am
- Paulus
  
  Sounds like the Unions have some say in the non delivery of KFC chickens as truck drivers are full awaiting instructions.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:17am
  - ztev
    
    hahaha. It was DHL, you can bet no unions were involved.
    Simply a new contractor taking over delivery and stuffing up big time – ah business
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:30am
    - Swifty
      
      Hypocrite!
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:07am
    - igm
      
      Business is something outside your domain . . . bludger.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:47am
  - Gabby
    
    Sounds like Puller’s kneecap exploded with his usual instinctive reaction.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:02pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Western society is always only three square KFC meals away from revolution, comrade!
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:38am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO ,
  
  Only if the Operation Sea Lion had succeeded ?
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:26am
cmm

Looks like another voter “coming home”.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/101694551/new-zealand-man-tamate-heke-found-guilty-over-rubbish-truck-road-rage-death
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February 23, 2018 8:13am
- igm
  
  Sounds like he is related to Ztrev . . . a nasty and gutless piece of s . . t!
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:16am
- DigNap15
  
  So soon we’ll only have 298 jail cells
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:22am
  - sooty
    
    Labours catch and release program.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:52am
- GoVege
  
  I feel very sorry for this guy.
  The deceased guy started it and had a history of road rage incidents.
  Reminds me of my own hubby.
  For years he would abuse other motorists over their imperfect driving.
  One day he challenged a Maori guy who was driving too slow on the motorway.
  A fight ensued.
  He was getting the better of the Maori fella when he heard him call out to his missus “get the hammer”.
  Next thing he had a head injury and had to go to hospital.
  He asked the cop who attended, ” aren’t you going to charge that guy? ”
  Apparently the policeman responded “we’re thinking of charging you BOTH for fighting on the motorway.”
  Fortunately no-one staggered into the path of a rubbish truck.
  And Mr GV is less critical of others’ driving these days. 🙂
  
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  February 23, 2018 12:37pm
kowtow

RNZ is Trump obsessed.

It started its 8 o’clock broadcast with Trump on Guns.

What has that got to do with us or is it pandering to its left wing audience?

There’s an awful lot of violence in the world .Rio’s slums ahve been taken over by the army due to drug gangs, we have the Yemen and Syria civil wars virtually ignored by RNZ and of course the “Democratic” Republic of Congo , as usual mired in chaos .

But we are treated to a daily diet of Trump Hate Speech from the station we pay for.
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February 23, 2018 8:16am
- MCos
  
  I’ve been listening to what Trump has to say and while I find a lot of his spiel repugnant I’d stop short of calling it hate speech.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:23am
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    I’d call it – the truth and standing up for what is right and good about the USA.
    
    Make America great again.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:28am
    - fernglas
      
      Could you please enlighten us about when America was formerly great, so we have a yardstick to compare the new America to? And no, I’m not trolling, but asking a genuine question. Some would say America never ceased being great, others will choose the 50’s or 60’s. How do we judge the success of the new policies?
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:44am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        A “great” country is one that people fight to get into.
        A “sh#thole” is one that they fight to get out of.
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:49am
      - stephieboy
        
        Odakyu-sen , like Czarist Russia , Soviet Union and Eastern Europe etc ?
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:30am
      - Jack5
        
        Deport the Stephiestani Troll Team before they completely root the English language!
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:07am
- Scott
  
  Trump on the latest school shooting is actually very good. He is talking about doing away with bump stocks, a device on the semiautomatic weapon that makes it shoot faster and more like a machine gun. He is pushing Congress to do something about this.
  
  He is also talking about raising the age for buying a rifle to 21. This move does not please the NRA but actually is something that could make a difference.
  
  Lastly he is also talking about having a few teachers that are armed in each school. These would-be teachers with training and practice in weaponry. He thinks this would stop these type of shooting straight away. I tend to agree with him because having a gun free zone means that only criminals have guns in that zone. A few armed teachers prepared to respond to a shooter would solve the problem in my opinion.
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:05am
  - G152
    
    Evidently there are schools in the US that have armed personnel without shootings and there are schools that are gun free zones where shootings do occur..
    School shooters might be nutters but they’re not mad
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:12am
    - ztev
      
      Nonsense. US university campuses have their own armed police, doesnt stop mass shootings.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_Police_Department
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:50am
      - Scott
        
        ztev-Thanks for your comments. The Virginia Tech situation which you linked to seems to show a very resourceful and calculating perpetrator who thought through with great thoroughness how to get time to kill as many people as possible. The local Virginia Tech police took 3 minutes to get there.
        As they say when seconds count the police are only minutes away.
        
        That’s why I would suggest that the only solution that would work is for some teachers to be armed. No one would know who the armed teachers were. In the Virginia Tech case the perpetrator could not know who in the faculty was armed? Therefore he would know that there is a strong possibility of an armed response to his actions. In my opinion the possibility of an armed response is the greatest deterrent possible to these school shootings.
        
        I think it is worth a try and I believe that some of the teachers being armed would be an effective deterrent to some if not all of these prospective school shooters.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:11am
      - Harkman
        
        It is always “soft targets” or ‘blindspots.’ Penn & Teller’s Bullshit had a good episode on gun control.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:37am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        If school shootings become to hard to pull off, watch mall shootings surge again. These were common in the 80s until Columbine showed loners that schools are easy targets. And you can kill or maim those who have indirectly hurt you.
        
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        February 23, 2018 1:52pm
      - GazzaW
        
        …….or maybe a cinema shooting or a concert performance shooting or a night club shooting or an airport shooting. Anywhere a crowd gathers is meat & gravy for these fuckers while the status quo is allowed to continue. It’s straight out bloody insanity.
        
        I’m no lefty as regular KBers well know but arming school teachers is ridiculous. What chance does a young teacher with a handgun and a couple of sessions on the firing range have against a raving fruitloop or a terrorist with an automatic weapon and a backpack full of magazines?
        
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        February 23, 2018 5:34pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Scott , stupidity at its best . Training teachers to be sharp shooters , combatants or whatever ? . Solving a problem with even more arms and weaponry .
    
    Ludicrous !
    
    When Aussie purchased back 650,00 guns crimes with the later dropped significantly . Suicides and injuries dropped also .
    
    Commonsense !
    
    Trump has displayed gutlessness . Even more so now the NRA have reigned in the action.
    
    Sheesh !
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:37am
    - Scott
      
      Thanks for your repliy stephieboy. For us in New Zealand the problem seems so obvious. Why don’t the Americans just hand in all their guns?
      But the big difference between us and Australia and the attitudes of the United States people towards guns is huge. The Americans really believe that they need to have guns as a defence against tyranny. This dates back to the Americans overthrowing British rule. They really believe they have a right to their guns and they need their guns in case of a tyrannical overbearing government.
      
      They really really believe this. Therefore a government that wanted to take away the guns from American gun owners would not survive. An order to forcibly confiscate American guns would be met with armed resistance. There would literally be a civil war.
      
      Therefore American guns are here to stay. Therefore the commonsense solutions that Trump and others are proposing are the only things that can really make a difference. Confiscating guns from American gun owners is just not realistic.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:57am
      - stephieboy
        
        Scott , we get on well here without the need to carry hand not guns or tote around AR!5 assault guns etc .
        
        Do you somehow fee deprived or you civil liberties violated etc ?
        
        I see no difference why the same could apply to the USA
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:16am
      - Jack5
        
        Go home Stephie X, home to where the “AR!5” [sic] is the village handyman’s knock-off of the AR15.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:10am
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy ,yes and now the average australian is like the vast majority of muslims are in their shitholes, UNARMED VICTIMS at the mercy of armed thugs.
      
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      February 23, 2018 12:42pm
  - marcw
    
    You are right Scott, it was in the San Bernadino conference centre shooting where 15 were killed – ironically SB is a ‘gun free’ city zone.
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:11am
Simon

John Ardern has her worked cut out. Interest rates are heading up. All that spending required to fix Helen Key’s fuck ups. No money in the bank. Borrow borrow borrow.

Hospitals, schools, transport and sewage. All fucked. Poor Ardern needs another hug from Goofy.

During the period of record low interest rates Helen Key open borders fucked Auckland. Helen Key pissed away the short term benefit of open borders.

While at the same time massive under investment in infrastructure. Helen Key was slime.
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February 23, 2018 8:18am
- KiWombat
  
  What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:23am
  - kowtow
    
    Are you advocating a visit by Obummer , champion of the oppressed, who charges $400 000 a pop.
    
    Anyone who actually pays to listen to that race baiting liar needs their head examined.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:32am
    - VicParking
      
      I can smell the uranium on his breath
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:49am
    - ztev
      
      DPF paid $1500 to listen to and be photographed with Tony Blair
      Will he get a photo op with Obama too ?
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:52am
      - sooty
        
        Ztev, you are really pushing a barrow of shit there mate. May it fall on your head from a great height.
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:59am
Paulus

Don’t forget the Messiah of the USA is coming to visit us and will cost us a large sum of money in every way.
Cinderella will be wetting herself with anticipation.
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February 23, 2018 8:19am
- hullkiwi
  
  Yes, but is she going to be extended an invitation by JK to play golf with him & Obama? I doubt it somehow.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:42am
  - sooty
    
    No way! Her cankles would give out walking the course and also she could not bend over to pick up the ball.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:56am
    - holysheet
      
      Unlike that bitch helun who had liabores balls delivered on a plate
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:31am
      - stephieboy
        
        hoysheet , how many could a motley crew of Keyboard “: warriors “ gather together and effectively protest the visit ?
        
        Zero Ziltch !
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:40am
      - GazzaW
        
        We don’t protest stephieboy – it’s a waste of fucken space as well you know. When did a protest march ever change anything?
        
        Obama is quite free to come here and talk. The right respects freedom of speech and sure as hell there wont be any rabble rousers with loudhailers outside the venue abusing the attendees and assaulting them. Those tactics are exclusively those of the left.
        
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        February 23, 2018 5:44pm
artemisia

So one-punch Caleb Maraku is being deported from Australia. I’m guessing that most Australians think that’s a grand idea, not just the 50,000 or so who petitioned he be deported.

Let us see National bring in the same policy and start deporting crims and bad eggs. Especially if they get sent back to shit holes. We need to get rid of some to balance the ones coming back over the ditch.

And National, while you’re at it tell the country the three strikes law will be baaaaack in 2020.

And tell loudly every single time a crim arrives back here or a crim is out on the street instead of incarcerated for a strike offence.

Commentators keep saying elections are won or lost in the middle. So go ask middle New Zealand what they really think about bad eggs and crim huggers.

Rather than just asking academics, politicians and talk fests.

University of Canterbury criminologist Dr Jarrod Gilbert ……………… said Little would need to convince a “highly sceptical public” he was on the right track.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11999980
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February 23, 2018 8:19am
BarryB

A2 milk

About 6 or 7 years ago I was supplying packaging to a little outfit in Hamilton called A2 Milk. I found out why they existed and did a bit of background research. In Iceland (or somewhere in Scandinavia) they consumed exclusively A2 milk – and although they drank alcohol like the Japanese and smoked like them also, these A2 milk consumers had very little heart trouble.
But I had seen failure after failure in the meat industry with people who had big ideas but they almost always went broke when their dreaming had to give in to reality – they went broke. This didnt make me think great things about A2 milk prospects. Their shares were worth either 7cents or 70 cents – cant remember which. And Fonterra was challenging their patents and other Intellectual property and they were putting out press reports about the fact that there was nothing in this A2 protein stuff. Fonterra would out-spend them I thought.

Next thing the shares were worth $7. OK – too late I thought.

YESTERDAY THEIR SHARES HIT $13 AND THEY ARE NOW WORTH MORE THAN FONTERA. They – the two of them – Fonterra and A2 also announced a joint marketing approach.

This just goes to show the failure that Fonterra is. I think every investment in China has cost them money – and will go on costing more and more.
And it also shows that when Fonterra was challenging the A2 Intellectual Property that Fonterra knew that there was something in it.
This is along side the arrogance that Fonterra has shown about environment effects of the “more Milk” approach they took to increasing their sales. A2 sells about 3% the volume that Fonterra does.

Sure the A2 share price could collapse ( and certainly will have an up and down future for a while) and it could be that Fonterra has entered into this joint programme to actually try and kill this A2 thing (but that would require some deep thinking and the application of some good brain power – two things that I doubt Fonterra has)

The share price of A2 is way over the odds for the companies financial performance – but the support for these new ideas in the investment community is very high. It just goes to show the support Fonterra would get if they actually did something new and intelligent and increased value instead of the crap they come out with on a regular basis.
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February 23, 2018 8:25am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Possibly because I am from a dairy farming area, but the above comment might just be the best post on this blog this week. I write that as an uptick is inadequate.
  The credibility of a company is inversely proportional to its spend on public relations. Fonterra spend a fortune on PR. Open Country Dairy and Tatua spend s.f.a on PR.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:40am
  - starboard
    
    3/4 of my share portfolio is in A2 Milk.
    I was fortunate enough to buy in at 2.34.
    I am now an extremely wealthy man thanks to Geoffrey and co. They actually went as high as 14.50 yesterday. A2 Milk constantly over perform and now with the Fonterra tie up..the sky is the limit.
    They will be $20 by xmas. If you can grab some around the 12 buck mark you wont look back. Cash reserves of 250 million..nice.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:20am
    - ztev
      
      look closer at what ‘cash reserves’mean.
      GM went bankrupt with billions ‘cash in hand’, but what that really meant was product ( cars) that hadnt been sold .
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:56am
      - starboard
        
        You just open your mouth and the shit flows ztrev. Before you comment on something you know nothing about..you should do your homework. Read A2 Milks latest report. You really are a pullhard.
        
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        February 23, 2018 4:14pm
    - wiseowl
      
      A friend of mine bought 20,000 A2 at 30 cents.
      When he filled me in about the company I bought some at $5.30. A great model.
      I only drink A2 now.It tastes much better.
      The $20 sp looks possible.
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:32am
      - backster
        
        I believed them, I bought in at 66cents sold a fifth at $6 and another fifth at $8. I will keep the rest. I buy their milk if I can get it, it disappears off the shelf almost as soon as they put it up.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:31am
- GoVege
  
  Some scientists were employed by our health department to find out why Samoan children brought up in NZ had 10 TIMES the incidence of type 1 diabetes back in Samoa.
  Their conclusion was apparently that it was due to the type of milk we drink here “A1” which contains a mutated protein that causes T1 diabetes plus heart disease etc.
  Good to know the general population is becoming aware of the difference.
  (Though I tried to tell a Samoan couple with a son with T1 diabetes about this and they took it as a personal insult.)
  
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  February 23, 2018 1:48pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Sanctimonious ramblings often are interpreted as personal insults.
    
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    February 23, 2018 1:55pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Ah well, the inability to take in and evaluate health information is a pretty useful evolutionary measure… for the more intelligent population.
      
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      February 23, 2018 4:08pm
DigNap15

Yes
The Project last night on Andrew Little comments that our jails are full and we should not need to build any more.

They interview some sickly white leftiest academic who said tougher sentences were not the answer, as there was still crime in the USA which has tougher sentences.

They have really tough sentences in China and Iran and there is not much crime there.

But they both failed to offer any answers!
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February 23, 2018 8:26am
- VicParking
  
  They should look closely at Iran and China and increase double bunking to a dozen. Problem solved.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:54am
- GoVege
  
  If we stopped paying gang members and associates to drag up umpteen kids to be pimped out, taught crime and deprived of an education, we might make a dent in those prison numbers.
  (Fortunately the party that describes gang membership as “an acceptable lifestyle choice” has fallen by the wayside.)
  I once called CYPF about a mum of 11 who was letting a gang pimp out her young daughter, and the social worker assumed I had rung about the sons, who were all into crime in a big way.
  The only remedy is to pay sociopaths to use contraception, not to produce and drag up kids.
  
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  February 23, 2018 12:58pm
  - Harkman
    
    Perhaps a license or test (based around income and two-parent-household stability) to have kids. Funny how the left likes gun control but not their constituent creation controlled.
    
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    February 23, 2018 1:22pm
kowtow

‘”I’ve talked to a lot of students who have said it was a gutting result regarding the medicinal cannabis Bill.’ says Chloe Swarfega.

Pull the other one Chloe , does anyone really believe these students give a flying fuck about end of life issues , how many of these latter day Mother Theresas who care so much actually visit any oldies or sickies in the hospice?

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/politicians-relish-opportunity-talk-students
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February 23, 2018 8:27am
- cmm
  
  Look, I believe adults should be allowed to consume drugs if they want to and are prepared to take the responsibilities and consequences that come with that.
  
  But Starbucks is being disingenuous by trying to wrap it up as being for terminal patients.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:38am
  - kowtow
    
    It’s a tactic toward full decriminalisation. First step.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:04am
    - cmm
      
      Sure, but does she really think she is so clever and the general population is so dumb that they can’t see through that?
      
      Or is that a rhetorical question?
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:02am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Ask zdiv, he probably has an answer. Swarfega’s bill got what it deserved. As cmm said, it was a disingenuous attempt to get dope growing decriminalised.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:24am
- VicParking
  
  Chloe lives in a world more related to Game of Thrones than to New Zealand.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:55am
EAD_TWO

Americans leading “anti racism activist” Tim Wise has just tweeted:

Everyone has fantasies. Some of mine involve ripping guns from the hands of pathetic bubbas who think firepower = manhood. I want to rip their guns from them in front of their children while they scream and wail about their “freedoms”and the evil “gubmint”. Sorry not sorry.

https://mobile.twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/966150943128551425

This of course the same Tim Wise (who just so happens to be Jewish) who wrote his notorious “letter to White People” where he was literally pissing himself with delight that the WASPs who voted Republican were on course to become extinct through the policies the likes of him and his fellow travellers have been pushing for decades:

And in the pantheon of American history, conservative old white people have pretty much always been the bad guys, the keepers of the hegemonic and reactionary flame, the folks unwilling to share the category of American with others on equal terms.

Fine, keep it up. It doesn’t matter.

Because you’re on the endangered list.

And unlike, say, the bald eagle or some exotic species of muskrat, you are not worth saving.

http://www.timwise.org/2010/11/an-open-letter-to-the-white-right-on-the-occasion-of-your-recent-successful-temper-tantrum/

Would you want to give up your guns with people like this in charge? It’d be another Bolshevik style bloodbath.
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February 23, 2018 8:30am
- stephieboy
  
  Are we to believe those students, “Teens for gun control “, who protested outside the White house are all part of a Tim Wise or Jewish conspiracy ??
  
  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/gun-control-lie-in-white-house-parkland-florida-shooting-donald-trump-protest-students-a8218686.html
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:43am
- cmm
  
  If Tim Wise really cared about blacks getting shot he would ask that guns be taken away from black people. Black-on-black violence is what kills the most blacks.
  
  “Mass shootings” get all the press, but they only make up one or two percent of US gun deaths.
  
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  February 23, 2018 10:05am
  - stephieboy
    
    cmm , so” stuff just happens “ as Bush jnr reminded us
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:56am
Captain Mainwaring

Did anyone else see that complete clown called “Victoria University Lecturer in Criminology” or something on TV3 last night?
He was vehemently arguing against providing extra prisons when we have increasing serious crime rates and got totally tied up in knots, especially when asked if the next murderer should be housed next to him when the prisons are full.
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February 23, 2018 8:31am
- cmm
  
  I agree. No more prisons should be built.
  
  There’s nothing wrong with using recycled shipping containers. That’s still better living conditions than 80% of the world’s population.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:40am
  - holysheet
    
    There is no poverdy here if the prisoners live in better conditions than the poor outside.
    
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    February 23, 2018 8:46am
    - stephieboy
      
      holysheeet , our in resident Professor of Criminology and Penology ?
      
      LOL
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:47am
      - sooty
        
        I bet he could do better than your mate. Without any quals.
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:55am
      - Jack5
        
        FFS Stephie X.
        
        Please get a 10-year-old NZ kid to edit your posts. Your grammar is so bad at times you are unintelligible (always unintelligent, but sometimes unintelligible).
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:48am
  - kowtow
    
    A lot of them deserve a 6 ‘ by 2’ container , but that’ll never happen.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:01am
  - backster
    
    cmm…..I recently read where either Germany or one of the Scandinavian countries were using them to house refugees.
    
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    February 23, 2018 11:37am
- Poppa
  
  Lock them up & throw the key away I say.
  
  I spoke to some Singapore locals when I was there & was told that nobody wants to go to jail there, it is not nice. Needless to say not many go to jail.
  
  We are far too soft on hardened criminals in this country. I am happy to spend my tax dollars on more prisons, it is the duty of the Government to keep its citizens safe
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:45am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes
    No three course meals
    No TV
    No videos
    No phones
    No heating – bring your own blanket
    No gym
    No Kapa Haka
    Ballroom dancing and poetry reading
    
    Just a Disney Movie once a week
    Piped Cliff Richard and Barry Manilow music
    Walk up and down outside if you want to
    A sturdy hook in the ceiling of each cell
    
    A well stocked library.
    And training programs for those that want or deserve it.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:20am
    - backster
      
      Dig…No TV? Even Sherrif Joe allowed them to watch the Weather Channel…Bible reading (no koran) and Grace before meals would I am sure be rehabilative.
      
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      February 23, 2018 11:41am
      - Harkman
        
        What about the pink panties? Don’t forget them, ha.
        
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        February 23, 2018 1:28pm
    - GoVege
      
      Make that Celine Dion and Whitney Houston. 🙂
      
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      February 23, 2018 1:01pm
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        There are conventions about cruel and unusual punishments GoVege. Waterboarding would be more humane than that….
        
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        February 23, 2018 3:05pm
  - Harkman
    
    Singapore has virtually no state welfare either. How many in this country have their crime lifestyle subsidised by the Dole and DPB?
    
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    February 23, 2018 1:30pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Right Poppa redirect more of the money wasted on a lost cause like trying to save the native dialect to build a shiny new prison and settle for the more familiar prison yard dialect.
    
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    February 23, 2018 11:29pm
- MCos
  
  FYI
  Here is a breakdown of why people were locked up up to 2014. The figures seem to indicate fluctuating crime rates or more precisely fluctuating incarceration rates.
  
  http://nzdotstat.stats.govt.nz/wbos/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=TABLECODE7323&_ga=2.167906660.498940329.1519328629-2032997522.1415932597&_gac=1.28153166.1518895957.Cj0KCQiAwp_UBRD7ARIsAMie3Xbwj2kfH9yLk33zZNId2K4ZVLFOV6Vs_bjdevM_8jDYETQrEyfhVIwaAovnEALw_wcB
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:01am
- DigNap15
  
  I do not know how to describe him
  Clown
  Twit
  Idiot
  Leftist apoligist
  Sickly White Liberal
  
  The sad thing is that as a criminologist he has no answers!
  The other sad thing is that we are paying his salary!
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:09am
  - stephieboy
    
    DidNap15 , another informed and knowable post !
    
    ( sarcasm )
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:48am
    - Swifty
      
      You can talk.
      
      Day after day you stumble from one screw up to the next. And you won’t even man up and admit it. Instead you run away or try to rewrite history to slither out of it.
      
      What an inadequate person you are.
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:56am
  - sooty
    
    No clues and teaching our kids. Pathetic lefty.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:52am
- G152
  
  He should do a lag.
  Then question him about overcrowding and such 🙂
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:17am
  - DigNap15
    
    He’d better take plenty of vaseline.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:22am
- Jack5
  
  This relates to the “open letter” by “criminal justice researchers” to the Government to stop building the new prison.
  
  Eleven of the 23 who signed seem to be lecturers in criminology at various NZ universities. Others include lecturers in “indigenous studies”, Moana Jackson, and a few law academics, including one who specialises in restorative justice.
  
  Are the criminologists out to create work for themselves? Therapy and courses instead of imprisonment?
  
  I didn’t see Greg Newbold’s name on the letter, and he would be the country’s leading academic when it comes to prison and justice studies.
  
  You can find the letter well down the page through this link:
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11999980
  
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  February 23, 2018 11:03am
  - G152
    
    Well unlike any of the others Greg has experience of the penal system.
    He KNOWS what he’s talking about
    
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    February 23, 2018 11:46am
4077th

It was sickening to see JAG on TV3 this morning watching her squirm when asked about the Iranian’s refusing to shake hands with the female Labour minister. Collins didn’t beat around the bush, “when in NZ you adhere to our customs” full stop! JAG was all..”but we must find a way to respect each others culture and ask them if there is anything else we can do instead of the touching”…FFS, she is supposed to me minister for women and at the fist opportunity bends to the will of the camel jockey’s. I hope this stupid little girl is out on or before 2020 if not we are fucked!
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February 23, 2018 8:51am
- kowtow
  
  I call bullshit on both the left and right on this one.
  
  They both claim we are a multikulti society .
  
  If so then the Shias have evryright not to shake hands, in fact they should be allowed to have 4 wives etc.
  
  Also if Collins thinks people who come here should respect our customs then she must stop Muslims and Asians who cover their faces . That’s not a western custom.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:59am
  - MCos
    
    It’s a custom in NZ for two people who are of a mind to to get married, but Catholic priests are forbidden by their church. I don’t recall too many MPs railing against that dictum.
    There are all sorts of similar rules of minority religions in the country that mainstream MPs never speak out against.
    This is a fuck up by the staff of the Labour MP who didn’t brief her properly about the correct protocols.
    Furthermore if there’s trade deals being discussed she’s not doing NZ any favours.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:29am
    - Jack5
      
      Marriage isn’t compulsory. If a group decides they don’t want to marry that’s their business.
      
      It’s a different argument when you say a country should bow to foreign customs.
      
      Covering faces has more ramifications than religious ones. Our society relies on facial recognition in business, in the legal system, in the transactions of everyday life.
      
      If Muslims don’t want to accept that they should stay out of the country.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:40am
      - stephieboy
        
        Jack5 , so the Japanese Emperor doesn’t serve a bow nor the protocol of women wearing long-sleeves like the First lady did when visiting Saudi Arabia etc
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:54am
      - ztev
        
        You dont have to shake hands or rub noses or high 5 anyone you dont want to.
        
        What seems to happen is NZ officials allowed the delegation to shake hands with some Mps but not not others and the female Mps were ‘warned off ‘ approaching the visitors to do so.
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:09am
      - DigNap15
        
        Yes, but they should stay out of country regardless.
        
        Muslims belong in muslim countries.
        
        Muslims belong back in the stone age, where they came from.
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:43am
    - cmm
      
      Those restrictions placed on a Catholic are completely voluntary.
      
      If a Catholic priest wants to stop being a priest he can walk away any time. Same with a lay person.
      
      I knew a nun who left the convent to get married. No problem.
      
      A bit different from our Muslim friends for whom it is the death penalty.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:47am
      - stephieboy
        
        cmm , like Fist Lady Melania Trump wearing long sleeves etc on the occasion of the Presidents visit to Saudi Arabia and Gulp states ?
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:57am
      - cmm
        
        stephie:
        
        Next trip she could be wearing a “Comrade Waggie” shirt. That would be very good for brand exposure!
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:27am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Mcos you are the wrong way round. T hey are visiting our country. Therefore, it is our customs, laws etc. they must respect, just as we have to respect their customs & obey their laws when visiting Iran. That is the usual international protocol, except it appears in this case.
      
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      February 23, 2018 11:34am
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    She’ll have to take a tougher line on facilitation payments too kobknob. That’ll be quite the dinner table discussion.
    
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    February 23, 2018 7:33pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “…we must find a way to respect each others culture…”
  
  A noble idea; however, what do you do when “they” refuse to respect your culture? Are you willing to stand up for what you hold dear?
  
  “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” (Winston Churchill)
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:04am
  - DigNap15
    
    I respect other peoples cultures, when they are in their country.
    
    “When in Rome do as they Romans do”
    
    PS
    How can we really respect a culture that…
    Degrades women.
    Does not allow modern education
    Practices female genital
    Promotes violence to the rest of the world.
    Is still in the stone age
    etc, etc
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:13am
    - MCos
      
      Seems to be pretty easy for all those American presidents who kiss the arses of the Saudis.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:33am
    - ztev
      
      That generally doesnt apply to women in Iran, you are thinking of Saudi
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:11am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Women are still treated like shit in Iran – prosecuted for not covering their hair or dancing, though at least FGM is relatively rare outside of immigrant areas.
        
        If they can ditch their theocracy Iran could quickly become a leading light of the Islamic world.
        
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        February 23, 2018 11:34am
  - stephieboy
    
    Odakyu sen , like the formality of bowing to the Japanese Emperor or similar to HM the Queen ? Your majesty , Mam etc
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:59am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Here’s the Sultan of Oman shaking QE2’s hand.
      http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/oman/queen-elizabeth-ii-arrives-in-oman-1.718770
      Not really a big problem, is it?
      
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      February 23, 2018 3:11pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I wonder what our pink and blue haired feminists make of this slight against the sistas?
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:36am
  - 4077th
    
    Fucking crickets is what..Not a single utterance. Some white bloke on a building site wolf whistles and he is off to court for sexual harassment… Meanwhile, in the third world shit hole that is the middle east, women are treated as slaves and forced to marry as pre-pubescent teenagers? Eh? Where are the howls of outrage at that from the feminatzi? The handshake deal was not some sort of “oversight” easily explained away like it never happened Ztrev! It’s an inconvenient truth that none of them want to bring into the sunlight, it’s on the down-low bro..No need to bring it up..everything is fine, just a mistake. Fuck off it was obvious and clearly demonstrated by that wonky twat JAG and her “diversity” agenda.
    
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    February 23, 2018 1:15pm
- holysheet
  
  While on the backfoot in this interview jag did a Amy Adams and said we need a conversation. FFS what planet are these people on?
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:38am
  - 4077th
    
    Yep, heard that also and almost swallowed my coffee cup. Who the fuck does she think she is thinking that’s an ok answer for us?
    
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    February 23, 2018 1:20pm
Humble Capitalist

Shane Jones going to Gisborne today to announce he has $1 billion in his briefcase to throw white elephants everywhere. Im positive Shane will make sure he gives NZ bang for buck.
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February 23, 2018 9:05am
- DigNap15
  
  I kind of like Shane Jones, he has some really good one liners.
  And his use of the English language is masterful sometimes
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:14am
  - G152
    
    Now all Shane has to do is actually do something.
    Restoring the rail link to Gisbourne would be a starter
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:20am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Rail is a waste of land and money. Autonomous trucks will be cheaper within a couple of years.
      
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      February 23, 2018 11:36am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Rail link to Gisborne from where?
      The Napier-Gisborne link has never been profitable and never will be.
      
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      February 23, 2018 11:15pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Maybe D but to do so in his present roll is showing up as a failure at what he is supposed to be doing while the odd one liner would see him struggling as a comedian.
    
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    February 23, 2018 11:50pm
- Piniwi
  
  But HC we have to wonder how this start to dishing out the Regional Economic slush fund will create 700 jobs? Who in their right mind would have moron like Jones in charge of $3 billion to throw around?
  
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  February 23, 2018 11:47pm
dime

so, just to get this straight.

jacinda only gave back her 10 grand overpayment, once she was busted and had no choice?

wow. just wow.
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February 23, 2018 9:16am
- brett68
  
  Ardern knew she had been overpaid?
  
  Do you have a link?
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:20am
  - dime
    
    “Ardern knew she had been overpaid?”
    
    so, this down to earth “just a westie at heart” is now so rich, she doesnt notice an extra 10k? wow. bet shes going to stay well in touch with your average loser labour voter.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:40am
    - sooty
      
      Me Too Ardern!
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:47am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      dime , you must learn to get over your PTSD post 23/9/2017 once and forever .
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:01am
      - dime
        
        “dime , you must learn to get over your PTSD post 23/9/2017 once and forever ”
        
        what an odd comment from an odd little group of people.
        
        you talk to one of the other people in your group about their trump derangement syndrome. maybe they could get over anythinghe does once and forever?
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:26am
      - wombatge
        
        Maybe someone is showing her the way around the system.
        Most government systems have holes in them like Swiss cheese.
        Old experienced knock around politicians would know the system inside out and how to play it.
        If Jacinda Ardern doesn’t know she has $10,000 that is not hers in her bank account, she certainly shouldn’t have anything to do with the public purse.
        It is a story, because it goes to basic integrity, like the agreement that doesn’t exist in writing.
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:56am
      - Gabby
        
        dim’s gettin whatabouty
        
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        February 23, 2018 6:13pm
    - Humble Capitalist
      
      would you necessarily notice if your account fluctuates with large salary payments, allowances, entitlements and giving large sums to those in poverty every week
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:38am
    - Piniwi
      
      @dime and so thick she is quite happy for her name to be misspelt on a Labour building being rebranded with a new brass plate. Bit slow on the uptake down in Dunedin they got the signal about the old drunk anointing Labour but seem to have guessed the name for the brass plate. Priceless.
      
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      February 23, 2018 11:42pm
- mandk
  
  I loathe Jacinda Ardern, but this is a non-story.
  
  Let’s focus instead on the harm she and Hipkins are intent on doing to our kids and young people:
  – abolition of National Standards (no Standards equals low standards)
  – vindictive attack on Charter Schools (the very opposite of helping kids to succeed)
  – fees-free tertiary give-away (incentivising young people to choose the wrong learning pathway at the wrong level).
  
  I suppose it all has it’s own twisted logic, though. The more kids and young people fail in education, the more likely it is that they will become benefit-dependent vote fodder.
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:42am
  - kevn
    
    labour has shafted 1500? NZ youth with their Charter School plan.
    How about funds free uni for the final (success rewarded) year? If they must do free.
    Overall a sad beginning for labour (plus NZers) and their twisted coalition partners.
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:17am
  - Piniwi
    
    But mandk they set to eclipse that with even more devastation of the education system from preschool to tertiary levels headed for a major rework. The only change so far from the free fees plan is a massive increase in administrative costs. Same number of enrolments as last year but a thicker quality who need it all explained to them.
    
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    February 23, 2018 11:57pm
- KKKKatee
  
  What? That’s her promise of ‘transparency’ out the door then….
  She’ll go down in history as NZ’s worst lying PM.
  
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  February 23, 2018 7:37pm
Jack5

An interesting take on American mass shootings:

http://fox4kc.com/2018/02/20/kentucky-governor-blames-cultural-problem-for-school-shootings-in-u-s/
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February 23, 2018 9:32am
- Harkman
  
  Yes I saw figures that showed that shootings went up from the late 1960s when hard drugs arrived on the scene.
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:39am
- stephieboy
  
  Jack 5 , the governor is bit of nutter don’t you think. ?No similar” cultural problem”school mass shootings in Aussie , here or say Canada etc
  
  I will forgive the guy instead it and call it a weak and pathetic excuse !
  
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  February 23, 2018 10:06am
- Inandout
  
  Cruz was on ‘calming’ drugs but hadn’t taken them around the day of the shooting. A nutter will grab the nearest weapon, vehicle or knife.
  
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  February 23, 2018 10:44am
Fletch

Anyone know the best place to buy a used car? (serious..)
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February 23, 2018 9:44am
- cmm
  
  where?
  
  Recently had really good dealing with Doug Drake on Ferry Rd Chch.
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:50am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Depends very much on what your preferred brand/budget is, as well as whether you have something to trade, not to mention where you live.
  More information please.
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:51am
  - Fletch
    
    My brother looking for one in South Auck. Nothing to trade (last one destroyed in a flood down south). Wants to spend between $6000 or $7000
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:00am
    - kevn
      
      @Fletch… Car auction maybe? Wholesale prices and usually a free/basic car inspection.
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:12am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Honest Abdul’s Cheapo Cars in Otahuhu sounds like the place for him.
      ‘sarc.’
      Seriously, any dealer who’s been in business for 15 years plus and who has happy customers will have a fresh import for that sort of money. Stick to Toyota, Mazda or Honda. Consumer Guarantees Act will protect him in the event of major drama.
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:53am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      private sales, trademe etc are way to go. Save $2000 or more from dealer price (more than cost of fixing most mech problems) – and get AA check if you don’t know you way around cars. Stay away from diesels and direct injected Gasoline if possible as that is main source of big maintenance expenses – and in many cases results in writing off of car, turbos are another frequent source of trouble in older cars. Also try and pick something with a timing chain rather than a belt to save expensive replacement. Import Jap is best for cheap maintenance, european cars are too expensive to fix.
      
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      February 23, 2018 11:48am
      - Fletch
        
        Thanks all. Have passed along to him 🙂
        
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        February 23, 2018 2:39pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Localised Facebook ads are a good place for somebody in need of cash to sell it quick.
        
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        February 24, 2018 12:09am
- Nermal
  
  I used the Dog & Lemon to narrow down the make and model I wanted, and then spent a few weeks on Trademe to get a true reflection of prices. Spotted one that I really liked, good price, inspected it and bought it on the spot. Many years later still driving it, no problems, no regrets
  
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  February 23, 2018 12:20pm
  - SPLOOGE
    
    Your statement is so contradictory that I don’t know where to start pulling it apart.
    
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    February 24, 2018 12:11am
- Piniwi
  
  Well Fletch will that be with or without the extra stink bugs? The other choice is a car in the shade or from a shady dealer. Your a bit early to get a real cheap one by tender when displaced Departmental flood the market after the electric replacements arrive.
  
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  February 24, 2018 12:05am
Rich Prick

No, I wouldn’t pay $495 to listen to the old bag cough and hack for an hour either.
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February 23, 2018 9:50am
- MCos
  
  Tom Waits – is he coming?
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:57am
  - Fletch
    
    Some people reckon that Heath Ledger based his performance of The Joker on Waits’ style of talking, etc… Judge for yourself –
    
    https://youtu.be/gCSc6E4yG9s?t=1m34s
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:15am
- SPLOOGE
  
  You’re either unable to actually afford it or are unable to afford it.
  But one thing for sure is that you’d love to be there.
  
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  February 24, 2018 12:13am
Manolo

The plonker Trudeau does it again:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5421779/Justin-Trudeau-ridiculed-Indians-fake-outfits.html

Justin Trudeau has been ridiculed on social media by Indians for his ‘tacky’ and over the top outfit choices while on his first visit to their nation as Prime Minister.

While many praised his clothing during the first two days of his trip, patience was wearing thin by the time he attended a Bollywood gala on Tuesday night, before the tide turned against him on Wednesday.

Ministers, authors, journalists and ordinary Indians lined up to mock him on Wednesday, saying his wardrobe was ‘fake and annoying’.
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February 23, 2018 10:14am
- Inandout
  
  Bloody sickening behaviour, even for a brain dead multiculti.
  
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  February 23, 2018 10:41am
- Longknives
  
  My God Trudeau is a Prize Twat.
  
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  February 23, 2018 10:51am
  - Ross12
    
    Careful Longknives.
    Don’t forget Helen Clark reckoned Ardern would our Trudeau.
    
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    February 23, 2018 12:20pm
  - Nermal
    
    Reminds me of a Prime Minister closer to home
    
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    February 23, 2018 12:22pm
- cmm
  
  Is he going to go full golly in Africa?
  
  I thought the lefties hated cultural appropriation.
  
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  February 23, 2018 10:57am
- dime
  
  isnt this cultural appropriation or some such?
  
  when he goes on tour with his wife, do they also bring the guy who fucks his wife with them? or does she just go without?
  
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  February 23, 2018 11:12am
  - Swifty
    
    What?
    
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    February 23, 2018 11:35am
    - dime
      
      he is a cuck.
      
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      February 23, 2018 1:54pm
      - Swifty
        
        What, he participates too?
        
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        February 23, 2018 2:24pm
      - Gabby
        
        dim’s gettin cuck soccy
        
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        February 23, 2018 6:08pm
- 4077th
  
  More than just his wardrobe that is fake and annoying!
  
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  February 23, 2018 1:49pm
Chuck Bird

Is this POS high risk?

Three decades for rape and Colleen Burrows murder not long enough, says Sensible Sentencing Trust

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11999882
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February 23, 2018 10:29am
- cmm
  
  High risk? Naah just not enough hugs.
  
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  February 23, 2018 10:49am
Hugh Pavletich

(JUDITH COLLINS) She’s the only National leadership hopeful who has spent time in Opposition and plans to lean on that experience – but what policy changes does she have up her sleeve? | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/92281/she%E2%80%99s-only-national-leadership-hopeful-who-has-spent-time-opposition-and-plans-lean

By Jason Walls

“It’s not my favourite,” Papakura MP and National Party veteran Judith Collins says when asked about her nickname, ‘Crusher.’

“But it’s the only nickname I have.”

The origins of the name aren’t complex; she received it when her bill allowing boy racers’ cars to be crushed after multiple infringements came into law. … read more via hyperlink above …
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February 23, 2018 11:05am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  BREAKING NEWS … NEW ZEALAND UPDATE …
  
  Owning a home is now more within reach for first home buyers in Auckland as prices tumble and interest rates remain low | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/92294/owning-home-now-more-within-reach-first-home-buyers-auckland-prices-tumble-and
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  .
  Vancouver, British Columbia Canada up the creek with housing affordability solutions …
  
  Real estate industry casts doubt on B.C.’s housing affordability plan – British Columbia – CBC News
  
  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/real-estate-industry-casts-doubt-on-b-c-s-housing-affordability-plan-1.4546341
  
  When the provincial government pitched its sweeping housing measures in the B.C. budget this week, it was in the name of affordability.
  
  But the plan has left some in the real estate industry questioning whether it will make housing affordable at all.
  
  “We don’t see it having any positive impact on affordability — in fact, it could drive prices up,” said Anne McMullin, president and CEO of the Urban Development Institute, which represents B.C.’s real estate development industry. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  .
  
  … WHAT HAVE THE VANCOUVERITES (ALSO ON THE PACIFIC RING OF FIRE) LEARNED FROM THE CHRISTCHURCH (AND OTHER) EARTHQUAKE EXPERIENCES ? …
  
  EARTHQUAKE REALITY HASN’T YET HIT B.C … THE PROVINCE
  
  http://theprovince.com/feature/b-c-earthquake-threatens-vancouver-buildings/chapter-2
  
  Carolyn Taylor met her parents at Christchurch airport on the morning of Feb. 22, 2011.
  
  She had persuaded them to visit her in New Zealand where she had been travelling for several months. They dropped their bags at a hotel and toured the downtown area of Christchurch before they settled in for lunch at an Indian restaurant, the Raj Mahal.
  
  They heard the earthquake before they felt it: a low rumble that turned into a roar. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  .
  
  … Christchurch based Hugh Pavletich wrote June 2011 ( extensive further material accessible http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org …
  
  OPINION: Hugh Pavletich accuses Christchurch City Council of blindness, blunders and chain dragging; calls for effective leadership, ‘open land’ policy and bendy zoning. Your view? | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/53947/opinion-hugh-pavletich-accuses-christchurch-city-council-blindness-blunders-and-chain-
  
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  February 23, 2018 12:29pm
  - Swifty
    
    BREAKING NEWS … NEW ZEALAND UPDATE …
    
    Hugh Pavletich has been discovered in his basement with his head firmly stuck up his own arse.
    
    How long he has been in this position is unknown.
    
    The Fire Brigade has been called, however it has been reported that Mr Pavletich has requested he be left in this position. He is reported to have said “he finds it comfortable and prefers living his life this way”.
    
    ENDS.
    
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    February 23, 2018 1:30pm
    - Harkman
      
      ? POTW?
      
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      February 23, 2018 1:35pm
  - softail 1450
    
    hughs writing a novel ,that shit was the 1st half.
    
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    February 23, 2018 2:25pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      UNITED STATES: Existing Home Sales Extend Plunge, Biggest Annual Drop Since 2014 | Zero Hedge
      
      https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-21/existing-home-sales-extend-plunge-december-nar-blames-inventory-not-rates
      
      After new- and existing-home sales tumbled in December, expectations were for a modest 0.5% rebound in January (despite plunging mortgage applications and soaring rates). But that did not happen as existing home sales tumbled 3.2% MoM to its lowest level since Aug 2016. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
      Mortgage Applications Plunge Most Since 2015 As Rates Soar | Zero Hedge
      
      https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-21/mortgage-applications-plunge-most-2015-rates-soar
      
      A week ago we highlighted the tumble in US mortgage applications, and things just got worser-er. As mortgage rates extend 4-year highs, home purchase applications plunged 15% in the last few weeks – the biggest drop since Feb 2015. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
      Mortgage applications tank, as rising rates make homes less affordable … CNBC
      
      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/21/mortgage-applications-tank-as-rising-rates-make-homes-less-affordable.html
      
      •The numbers are getting uglier for potential homebuyers and homeowners looking to save some money.
      
      •Mortgage interest rates jumped again last week, causing mortgage application volume to fall 6.6 percent from the previous week.
      
      •Volume was just 3.5 percent higher than the same week one year ago, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association. … VIEW & READ more via hyperlink above …
      
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      February 23, 2018 3:14pm
    - sooty
      
      Which would hit the bargin bin first, Hugh or Hager?
      
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      February 23, 2018 5:03pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Megan Woods to be applauded for decisive EQC action.
        
        EQC chairman Sir Maarten Wevers resigns, independent adviser appointed
        
        Last updated 14:12, February 23 2018
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/101713605/eqc-chairman-sir-maarten-wevers-resigns-independent-adviser-to
        
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        February 23, 2018 6:32pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Australian Update … via ‘Jimbo’ comments thread … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/02/macro-afternoon-369/
        
        More on the ANZ interest only tightening today.
        
        https://www.theage.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/anz-tightens-rules-on-interest-only-home-loans-20180223-p4z1gd.html
        
        ‘ANZ Bank will beef up its scrutiny of customers looking to switch into an interest-only home loan as lenders are taking a more cautious approach to riskier mortgages.
        
        The big four bank is also banning interest-only home loans from being used by customers who are relying on a parent or other family member to act as a guarantor.
        
        ANZ this week said it would treat changes involving interest-only loans – such as a customers extending the term of their loan or switching from a principal and interest product to one where they only pay interest – as a “credit critical event.”
        
        That means the bank will apply heightened scrutiny to the financial circumstances of the customers seeking to make such changes, and their reasons for doing so.
        
        Banks last year slammed on the brakes by raising interest rates for interest-only customers and demanded new borrowers stump up bigger deposits. ANZ’s latest change is another sign of caution from a major lender.’
        
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        February 23, 2018 7:48pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/02/macro-afternoon-369/#comment-3055745
        
        … NEW ZEALAND UPDATE … BYE BYE HOUSING BUBBLE …
        
        Owning a home is now more within reach for first home buyers in Auckland as prices tumble and interest rates remain low | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/92294/owning-home-now-more-within-reach-first-home-buyers-auckland-prices-tumble-and
        
        By Greg Ninness
        
        The dream of buying a home of their own became more achievable for many first home buyers last month thanks to falling prices in many parts of the country, but particularly in the North Island
        
        The Real Estate Institute of New Zealand’s national lower quartile selling price dropped from $375,000 in December to $353,000 in January, a decline of 5.9%. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        February 23, 2018 7:51pm
igm

If Parliament build baby rooms will they be referred to as bastard bins?
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February 23, 2018 11:10am
- Chuck Bird
  
  That is up to Cindy and Genter.
  
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  February 23, 2018 11:29am
  - kevn
    
    @Chuck… Comes after postividy and zero road toll.
    
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    February 23, 2018 11:40am
Jack5

The Stephie Trolls’ splatter is so heavy today, I think I’ll find something more productive to do.
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February 23, 2018 11:12am
- stephieboy
  
  Jack 5 , like burying you head in your sand bucket and keeping it there ?
  
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  February 23, 2018 11:29am
- kevn
  
  @Jack5… Yes, splatter like birdsh*t on the car windscreen. About as useful.
  
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  February 23, 2018 11:39am
- Piniwi
  
  Sadly Jack5 too many rising to the bait and helping it trash the GD today. What a bloody shame they do not understand what ignore means while it also deters some serious contributors who have something interesting to offer. Perhaps if the order of contributions was changed to last first it might help this blog realise more of it’s true potential to fill void.
  
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  February 24, 2018 12:26am
Manolo

stephieboy will be horrified at the treatment meted out at his mates, the invaders:
https://www.westmonster.com/macron-pushes-for-french-border-crackdown-jail-illegal-migrants-and-speed-up-deportations/

The EU’s Dublin Agreement currently states that migrants must claim asylum in the first safe country they arrive in, something rarely enforced since the migrant crisis began in 2015.

Macron’s plan, if passed, would see migrants fined €3,750 (£3,318) or face a year in prison if they pass through another EU country before arriving in France. He is also proposing to double the amount of time asylum seekers can be held in detention from 45 days to 90.
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February 23, 2018 11:15am
- 4077th
  
  What its that at the bottom of the cliff?…Oh, yes, it’s an ambulance!
  
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  February 23, 2018 1:55pm
Harkman

I’m beginning to warm to Collins. I have openly been worried about past issues. But somebody reminded me on here yesterday that she refused to give David Bain a payout or that idiot Canadian judge the time of day. To me that’s massive.
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February 23, 2018 11:46am
- Longknives
  
  Noooo! You said the ‘Bain’ word..
  *It’s like summonsing the Candyman!
  
  Expect Notsofast, Nostalgia, Judith and Rowan along any minute to begin a 500 comment snorefest..
  
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  February 23, 2018 11:59am
Maggy Wassilieff

Go Judith
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/101696874/judith-collins-womens-rights-trump-cultural-customs-in-nz

Shame on the Green and Labour Women for not sticking up for the equality of women with men in NZ.
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February 23, 2018 12:01pm
- Kimbo
  
  AThe Crusher sure knows how to pick her wedge-issue populist targets! 😉 From the same link, contrast with the prog-lib appeasement of Julie Anne Genter:
  
  However, Women’s Minister Julie Anne Genter took a softer approach to the discussion over women’s rights, versus cultural beliefs.
  
  “I’m not quite as harsh on people,” she told the AM Show.
  
  It was “incredibly important” to champion the rights of women, but “when it comes to shaking hands, different cultures have different practices”.
  
  If the physical contact was a problem because of cultural or religious beliefs, a respectful alternative – like a bow – would be appropriate, Genter said.
  
  “We’ve got to try and understand each other.”
  
  She suggested New Zealand officials speak directly to Iranian officials to find a way forward where both cultures felt appropriately respected.
  
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  February 23, 2018 12:10pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    She suggested New Zealand officials speak directly to Iranian officials to find a way forward where both cultures felt appropriately respected.
    
    This should have been well canvassed before the meeting took place.
    Unbelievable that our MPs didn’t realise that they were going to be treated disrespectfully.
    
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    February 23, 2018 12:22pm
    - Inandout
      
      Or put more in a Kiwi way, ‘treated like shit on the sole of a shoe’. Stuff the women hating Muslims.
      
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      February 23, 2018 12:38pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Maggy W, so we can expect the Crusher on a state visit to Saudi Arabia to wear short sleeves and a plunging neckline ?
      
      Or when British royalty visit ignore all protocols and do there same with an arm around Prince Harry introducing her mates for good measure ?
      
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3314833/You-not-Janine-Paul-Keating-s-Lizard-Oz-moment-Michelle-Obama-hugging-Queen-LeBron-James-sweaty-arm-Kate-famous-breaches-royal-protocol.html
      
      LOL !
      
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      February 23, 2018 1:59pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        As I posted above…
        
        No big deal for some Muslim folks to shake QE2’s hand
        http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/oman/queen-elizabeth-ii-arrives-in-oman-1.718770
        
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        February 23, 2018 3:14pm
cmm

Look at the pictures of the terrible white people that beat up their kids!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/101619320/Child-abuse-cases-increasing-in-Porirua-as-mayor-turns-to-prime-minister-for-help

Would it be racist if some of these pictures were a bit more honest and showed the brown people that make up the worst stats?

Ducking the issue and pretending that we’re all the same is not going to help solve the problem.
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February 23, 2018 12:23pm
- Inandout
  
  If they used brown actors they would be accused of racism, but whites don’t matter. Same with burglar actors.
  
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  February 23, 2018 12:40pm
- JibberJabber
  
  They will never use ethnic models in these types of stock photos cos`, Dat`s wacist!
  Easier to stereotype honky and any outcry can be ignored cos` Wacism, the go to get out of jail and ignore the hard questions card.
  
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  February 23, 2018 1:46pm
JibberJabber

Looks like it`s official, it`s the Age of the Snowflake,
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/101706826/arts-v-engineering-university-of-canterbury-lecturer-sparks-ire-after-branding-arts-easy
LoL, check out the survey.
Might not be any coming back for the offended Tinkerbell after that one, maybe he`ll have to transfer to the Humanities to regather some cred?
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February 23, 2018 1:15pm
cmm

Leftie snowflakes exploding:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/101706826/arts-v-engineering-university-of-canterbury-lecturer-sparks-ire-after-branding-arts-easy

The reason engineering is harder is because it is objective.

If you say 2+2 = 5 you are wrong. You can’t say it is open to interpretation or blame the patriarchy.

If your bridge falls down it is badly designed. The hug room won’t fix it.

Programming bugs can’t be solved by crying. I saw people try that when I was a uni tutor. It doesn’t work.
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February 23, 2018 1:20pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  There are a lot more people at university now. The ones doing engineering today are the same ones who would have been doing it 40 years ago. But the arts courses now include loads of people who would not have been at university 40 years ago. They have to make the arts courses easier in order to maintain a reasonable pass rate.
  
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  February 23, 2018 2:12pm
cmm

Cindy and Jones looking really smug in front of the camera:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12000424

Hey we’re pissing your money away and there’s nothing you can do about it!

Why don’t they just show us the finger too! You can see they want to.
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February 23, 2018 1:28pm
- Swifty
  
  Indeed.
  
  I’d like to know exactly how the outcomes will be measured and by whom – and when will the results be known?
  
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  February 23, 2018 1:36pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Steady Swifty they have to get it handed out first and no surprise Jones is even struggling with that as he sifts through what will get him the most in return. Then you expect to see results? They are likely to be carefully guarded and locked away with the secret 38 page plan. On the back of a postage stamp sure to become a collectors item.
    
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    February 24, 2018 12:40am
- JibberJabber
  
  If you look hard enough you can see Ron Mark giving Winston the finger behind his back.
  
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  February 23, 2018 1:49pm
  - Paulus
    
    That is probably the last time Marks gives Peters the finger.
    Come Tuesday he will find out that it is believed that the Top Brass in Defence have registered no confidence in the Minister of Defence.
    Silly arrogant very little twat.
    
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    February 23, 2018 2:10pm
- Harkman
  
  Notice all the money went to swing seats that Labour/Winston First has a chance of winning? No money for Selwyn or Southland. Just political corruption.
  
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  February 23, 2018 1:53pm
- lifesgood
  
  Jeepers! The people behind Jones look less than impressed! I can see “Get me out of here” written all over their faces.
  
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  February 23, 2018 6:16pm
Tom Barker

The Bank of Omaha is the latest US business to cancel its commercial relationship with the NRA.
I love it that the NRA is now a toxic brand. The only politicians brave, or foolish, enough to accept their funding will be those in safe seats. Which raises the question why the NRA would choose to fund them in the first place.
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February 23, 2018 1:54pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Bernie Sanders will be annoyed! Since he’s one of them. Same as the Clinton Crime Foundation. Don’t forget the uranium. Oh but that doesn’t kill people does it?
  
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  February 23, 2018 2:05pm
  - stephieboy
    
    ABS what about Uranium One ?
    
    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a14477730/trump-uranium-one-republicans-russia/
    
    BTW you don’t take Pizzagate and Clinton body count seriously ?
    
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    February 23, 2018 2:19pm
- stephieboy
  
  Introducing nutter Wayne_LaPierre NRA
  
  https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Wayne_LaPierre
  
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  February 23, 2018 2:20pm
UpandComer

https://www.afp.com/en/news/824/haiti-suspends-oxfam-operations-pending-sex-scandal-probe-doc-10v7lf3

Find a leftist oriented NGO that isn’t a worthless pack of racist pedophile s and sex criminals. Remind Oxfa m people wherever they are that this is what they are.

Also, the Florida shooting was a false flag.
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February 23, 2018 1:57pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  UNICEF Deputy-Director resigns…. past history at Save The Children Fund SCF came back to bite him on the bum.
  http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43162223
  
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  February 23, 2018 2:16pm
Manolo

Sycophancy is the name of the game:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/young-honest-and-pregnant-aussie-media-fawns-over-ardern/ar-BBJtdzz

Australian media is fawning over Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, with a segment of 60 Minutes dedicated to a profile of the leader.

Illustrated with a montage of Ms Ardern announcing her pregnancy, walking barefoot on grass and serving up a barbecue at Waitangi, it says “the world’s never seen a leader quite like her”.
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February 23, 2018 2:20pm
- Piniwi
  
  They miss the good bits Manolo as well as the disconnect of the various elements that make up the Labour machine. Misspelling her name on a new brass plate at LHQ Dunedin and no Young Labour are giving out condoms with Lets Do This on the pack. This at a time when they have announced a Baby Bonus.
  Perhaps we will see the Commie Chick holding them up one while saying ” Lets Use This to Avoid This” as she pats her bump.
  
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  February 24, 2018 12:52am
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh relax folks,
Golriz Ghahraman _ Green MP – reckons the Iranian weren’t being disrespectful by not shaking female MPs hands.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12000530

Cool, eh?

Thank goodness, not everybody in the Muslim world accepts her viewpoint.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/muslim-figures-try-to-cool-debate-over-handshake
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February 23, 2018 2:28pm
- Swifty
  
  I don’t blame the Mussies too much Maggy – after all they’re just following a long Islamic tradition of keeping their hands off another man’s property.
  
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  February 23, 2018 2:43pm
- Kimbo
  
  Honestly, the more I hear from Golriz I am drawn to the conclusion she is incorrigibly morally and intellectually compromised, with resulting awful priorities, accompanied by pride, arrogance and a massive sense of entitlement. Other Greens I’ll at least acknowledge as sincere in their misplaced zeal, including Jan Logie and Marama Davidson, and yes, even Metiria Turei. Their lights may be dull, but at least there is some light and commitment to internal consistency within their morality.
  
  But after that cv matter, and her ott outburst a few days ago about security laws, and that latest intellectual dishonesty that not even “rationalising” can dignify, I think, I’ve come to the conclusion the Greens have got a really dishonest bad apple in Golriz.
  
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  February 23, 2018 2:54pm
  - Swifty
    
    Kimbo – what’s the intellectual dishonesty you’re referring to?
    
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    February 23, 2018 3:04pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Sorry for the lack of clarity. Golriz’s justification for a man refusing to shake hands with a woman is not necessarily an act of oppression, but to maintain “safe” boundaries for women. FFS, that is the same aesthetic rationale that underpins all the petty and pedantic legalisms that restrict women throughout parts of the Muslim world, be it burkas, driving restrictions, denial of an education…!
      
      I’ve said before that Muslims are free to practice their religion in NZ right up to the point where it infringes on the freedoms of others and our core values. The equality of women is one of them. This is our country, Jo Luxton is one of our official representatives…shake her bloody hand or piss off and send a genuine and capable diplomat from Iran who will. I think the encroachment of sharia conspiracy theory can be over rated. But in this issue, it is not. If and when Jo Luxton goes to Islamic Iran on official government business she should, as a matter or courtesy respect their laws, customs and priorities by covering her her. But this is our (non Islamic, non sharia) sovereign nation, do respect our priorities. Or, like any other potential visitor who can’t, kindly leave forthwith.
      
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      February 23, 2018 3:36pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Well said, Kimbo.
        
        I wonder if stephieboy will dare come out and accuse you of Muslim-bashing as he did with me last night.
        
        He seems to miss the point that we are discussing how NZ women are treated in NZ by representatives of a foreign country.
        
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        February 23, 2018 4:09pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        ” to maintain “safe” boundaries for women.”
        
        Pretty insulting to their own male politicians, too. What, so shaking a woman’s hand gets the male politician sexually excited?
        
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        February 23, 2018 4:33pm
      - Swifty
        
        Got you – thanks very much.
        
        And I quite agree.
        
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        February 23, 2018 4:43pm
  - Longknives
    
    “I’ve come to the conclusion the Greens have got a really dishonest bad apple in Golriz.”
    
    I know someone who has had numerous dealings with Golriz Professionally- My contact tells me she is a fantasist and her whole life is pretty much a lie.
    I won’t repeat exactly what I was told but I would be very surprised if it doesn’t all unravel in spectacular fashion for our friend Golriz…
    
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    February 23, 2018 4:20pm
    - nasska
      
      If things get a bit hot for her & the MSM actually do something like ask questions she’s always got the Lefty fallback position.
      
      She can get pregnant!
      
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      February 23, 2018 5:51pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      Can’t wait. Couldn’t happen to a nicer (sarc) person. Actually, we don’t need this sort of trash getting into Parliament, Greens or not……
      
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      February 23, 2018 6:44pm
    - RF
      
      Funny you should mention this. I hear that she is not popular and using Shaw to advance her position in the party.
      
      This came from an old school Green.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:24pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Maggie. They’re just misunderstood; a bit like Rwandan genocidists.
  
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  February 23, 2018 3:18pm
Inandout

Golly follows this shit, explained with agonising clarity by ‘those in the know’. One does wonder though how Muslim rapists get past not touching their women victims? In Europe where they rape at will, Allah must look away.

http://www.justaskislam.com/69/shaking-hands-with-women/

Those strange Imams referred to must have weird sexual lives.
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February 23, 2018 3:18pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  I’ll tell you: by the koran telling them they can have sex with up to four wives and with those their ‘right hand possesses’. I.e. sex slaves, as many as they can grab. The rapists (and murderers and terrorists) convince themselves that the west is a kind of ‘war zone’ and that infidel women are for their possession.
  
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  February 23, 2018 4:37pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Classical Liberal , I can assure you the Syrian and Iraqi civil wars etc are a lot more complicated than your crude and simplistic explanations s
    
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    February 23, 2018 6:05pm
- stephieboy
  
  Inandout,
  
  “Those strange Imams referred to must have weird sexual lives.”
  
  Why ?
  
  Polygamy was practiced in Biblical times and even the Mormans believe in it
  
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  February 23, 2018 6:03pm
Jack5

A quick return while the Stephiestani Trolls are away for a spell of head banging on the prayer mat and a bit of ghat chomping.

Some interesting things are happening:

– Haiti has kicked Oxfam out of the country.

– A Muslim couple in Britain have been jailed for 26 years because of terror plot (in Christchurch, NZ, they would probably have got two years probation and name suppression).

– The influence lingers in the UK of that vile scumbag, the disbarred English law professor, Phil Shiner. A decorated British Army officer, found not guilty of causing the death of an Iraqi teenager during that war, has been absolved SEVEN times in inquiries, but now faces an eighth inquiry.

– The armed guard at the Parkland, Florida, high school where 17 people were killed, waited outside for four minutes after the massacre began. He never went in to confront the gunman.

– Some American schools have begun arming teachers to fight back in response squads, and President Trump has raised the possibility of paying a bonus to teachers who carry guns.
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February 23, 2018 3:20pm
- Jack5
  
  The United States, too, has a veteran in trouble for an incident from the Iraq War.
  
  Too many lawyers, too many pacifists in the Western military?
  
  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/22/michael-behenna-seeks-trump-pardon/
  
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  February 23, 2018 3:45pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack 5 ,
  
  “ The armed guard at the Parkland, Florida, high school where 17 people were killed, waited outside for four minutes after the massacre began. He never went in to confront the gunman.”
  
  We don’t have the full facts as why that was the case .As I mentioned below it could be the assailant had a plausible reason to be on school the premises and an AR15 are quite easy to conceal . Lots of questions that require answers but not rationales to turn schools into armed fortresses .
  Insanity to try and stop school mass shootings with even more and more guns .
  
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  February 23, 2018 4:53pm
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy, another bald faced lie from KBs biggest liar.
    
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    February 23, 2018 5:05pm
    - stephieboy
      
      What bare faced lie ?
      
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      February 23, 2018 5:08pm
  - RF
    
    The deputy sheriff was armed with a 9mm hand gun.
    
    Not much use against a semi auto rifle but he should at least have done something. Must probably he would not have survived.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:27pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Not according to a survivor of Colombine
    
    “Time and time again we point to the one common theme with mass shootings, they occur in gun-free zones,” Neville told The Washington Times. “This act would allow every law-abiding citizens who holds a concealed carry permit, issued from their chief law-enforcement officer, the right to carry concealed in order to defend themselves and most importantly our children from the worst-case scenarios.”
    
    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/02/20/columbine-survivor-patrick-neville-pushes-for-concealed-carry-gun-laws-in-colorado-schools/23366348/
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:34pm
    - stephieboy
      
      rightoverlabour , that insanity could only happen in NRA America !
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:39pm
Jack5

Where is Milky today? Is he sharing a hookah pipe with the Stephiestanis as he tries to teach them the basics of English punctuation?

That’s a waste of time, Milky. It would take 20 years!
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February 23, 2018 3:31pm
Johnboy

I thought Golliwogs were banned these days! 🙂
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/101696690/sainey-marong-found-guilty-of-murdering-renee-duckmanton
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February 23, 2018 3:33pm
- Jack5
  
  Johnboy, you’ll probably get caned for racism for comparing this fellow to an allegedly racist doll.
  
  There are complaints when children’s dolls are alleged to be too white for the children of a diverse society, and more complaints about the black doll.
  
  Is the answer just to change the name of the doll.
  
  Golly Wog – out.
  Dolly Wog – no.
  Golly Dolly – might scrape in.
  
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  February 23, 2018 3:55pm
- stigie
  
  They seem to be a plenty on the internet JB..?
  
  https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/9/20/1379676496041/Lemn-Sissay-with-golliwog-008.jpg?w=300&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=fe2494c73068f664aa5e39c340aac17c
  
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  February 23, 2018 3:55pm
- Longknives
  
  Shock,Horror the killer is a Muslim Refugee….
  
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  February 23, 2018 4:13pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Well, let’s hope they deport the bastard…
    It it’s good enough for the Aussies to deport bad bastards back to NZ, then the Govt should be doing the same with anyone who is not born in NZ.
    
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    February 23, 2018 7:42pm
Jack5

Illegal immigration well down in US under Trump.

Except from the Indian subcontinent – India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Stephiestan.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/22/illegal-immigration-lowest-2003/
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February 23, 2018 3:50pm
mikenmild

The armed guard at the Parkland, Florida, high school where 17 people were killed, waited outside for four minutes after the massacre began. He never went in to confront the gunman.

Surprise, surprise – rational self-preservation kicks in. Moving towards imminent danger is a threat that somepolice or soldiers have been known to refuse. This is one of the well-known flaws with the idea of the ‘good guy with a gun’.
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February 23, 2018 4:13pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Obviously, the armed guard was not a “good guy”; he was probably incorrectly trained to deal with the situation for which he had been employed. Or maybe he was a coward who never thought that he might actually have to do his job.
  
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  February 23, 2018 4:20pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Odakyu-sen , we don’t have the need to have armed guards at NZ Schools nor I understand in Japan .
    
    Now stand apart for a moment , breath deeply and think for a moment .
    
    Why could that be compared to the situation in the USA ?
    
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    February 23, 2018 4:39pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Give it time. Little hasn’t let all the crims go yet.
      
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      February 23, 2018 4:44pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Yes rangitoto it has started already with security guards on WINZ offices that few ever expected to see. Unarmed but it all starts out in that way most likely escalate faster as the raghead numbers bolt away in numbers.
        
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        February 24, 2018 1:21am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      You do realize that Japanese police are armed.
      
      Although firearms are controlled in Japan, a man with a deba knife (the Crocodile Dundee of kitchen knives) Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL42cF_543I
      would be capable of multiple murders before the authorities could get to him.
      And yes, capital punishment in Japan is by hanging.
      
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      February 23, 2018 6:37pm
      - Jack5
        
        The deba knife, Odakyu-sen, would be a formidable weapon.
        
        So would this NZ pioneer knife: the version of the Bowie knife created by NZ guerrilla war leader Gustavus von Tempsky.
        
        This, and a Colt .45 revolver, were carried by each of Forest Rangers.
        
        An expert has a look at the version now being made in NZ by a knife maker:
        
        https://youtu.be/QMntqsjNKfw
        
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        February 23, 2018 7:46pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Odakyu -sen . oh come on. Japan like NZ has strict gun control laws .
        
        End of story
        
        You mean someone armed with a deba knife could coolly and efficiently take out 17 School Students and 58 at Las Vegas ?
        
        Aussie Police are armed too .
        
        Your point ?
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:45pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yeah what a loser.
    There was only one gunman, and that “guard” might have saved some of the children.
    
    Meanwhile another part-time security guard who was a sports teacher, did intervene and he got killed, but he was unarmed, and therefore a hero.
    
    And we still have not heard the truth (or the real time line) of what happened in the Las Vegas hotel corridor while that mass murderer was killing people for 15 minutes.
    
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    February 23, 2018 5:05pm
    - stephieboy
      
      DidNap15 , now what Alex Jones type false flag conspiracy could that be I wonder ?
      
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      February 23, 2018 5:14pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Funny Odakyu-sen here in the Philippines there are armed Police as well as security guards everywhere who are mostly for effect or show. Most have to buy their own ammunition so with their hard to live on low incomes there a lot more demands for the basics before bullets.
    Have a lot of laughs with them watching locals try to park at the local mall knowing most are harmless even with an M16 or shotgun.
    
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    February 24, 2018 1:16am
- Longknives
  
  “rational self-preservation kicks in”
  
  Cops have sworn an Oath to protect their Community.
  Quite simply- His job was to go in and save lives.
  I would say Cowardice kicked in..
  
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  February 23, 2018 4:27pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Longknives , we don’t know the full facts of why he did not act . Any number of reasons including the assailant could of used stealth e.g an A R 15 is quite easy to conceal .
    
    I think it is absolutely abhorrent to lay the blame on the guard as an excuse and rationalise to further arm and militarise schools .
    
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    February 23, 2018 4:43pm
    - lifesgood
      
      “could of” lol!
      
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      February 23, 2018 6:07pm
    - cmm
      
      “AR 15 is quite easy to conceal .”
      
      Have you ever handled an AR15?
      
      That very much depends on exactly what AR15 it was.
      
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      February 23, 2018 7:38pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Stephie wouldn’t have a clue. An AR 15 is about the size of an M16. Not easy to conceal. Fucking Idiot
        
        https://www.at3tactical.com/blogs/news/10951661-m16-vs-m4-vs-ar15-a1-a2-a3-or-a4-understanding-the-different-types-of-ar15-rifles
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:13pm
      - stephieboy
        
        cmm, nope ! But this shows how easy it is to conceal an Assault rifle like an AR 15 ,
        
        Video Shows Just How Easy It Is to Conceal an Assault Rifle in Plain Sight
        
        http://www.complex.com/life/2016/06/assault-rifle-orlando-shooting-easy-to-conceal
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:52pm
  - starboard
    
    Absolutely. He should be taken away and shot. Cowardly scumbag.
    
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    February 23, 2018 4:52pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Its like the two security guards at the Ashburton WINZ office.
    They stood by and let two staff members get killed.
    
    Why were we bothering to pay them to stand around all day?
    
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    February 23, 2018 5:08pm
    - stephieboy
      
      My understanding is that WINZ introduced security guards as a consequence of the shootings !
      
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      February 23, 2018 5:10pm
      - Longknives
        
        Utter Bollocks from you once again Stephieboy.
        I worked for WINZ when I first left University in the late 90s- They had Security Guards then…
        
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        February 23, 2018 5:30pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        You are wrong, stephieboy.
        There had been at least one Armourguard security guard stationed at Ashburton WINZ for two and a half years before Tully’s murderous rampage.
        
        This information is readily available.
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11597378
        
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        February 23, 2018 5:48pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        I understand that the securities guards at WINZ were authorized to use harsh language in the event of an incident.
        
        //
        
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        February 23, 2018 6:42pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Your understanding, like your opinions are not worth a scrap of shit stephie. LOL
        
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        February 23, 2018 7:18pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Longknives, Maggy W
        
        My information suggests otherwise ,
        
        “Work and Income security guards fear another fatal shooting”
        
        “Security guards standing at the doors of Work and Income centres fear for their lives as they face increasing levels of abuse.
        
        “Guards have been posted at the doors of Work and Income offices since two staff were shot dead in Ashburton in 2014.”
        
        They now have to ask for ID and assess how much of a risk clients pose before they’re let through the doors.
        
        Speaking exclusively to Newshub, a guard who wants to remain anonymous says these protocols mean people are taking their frustration out on them at the door…..”
        
        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/04/work-and-income-security-guards-fear-another-fatal-shooting.html
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:02pm
    - cmm
      
      I still remember my first week in NZ.
      
      Having just come from South Africa where cops and security guards are armed, well trained and knew how to handle guns, it was both refreshing and disturbing to see what passed as security guards in NZ.
      
      Old codgers with comb-overs driving rickety old Armourguard vans – unarmed. Not real security at all. In South Africa those old coots wouldn’t have lasted 5 seconds.
      
      That freaked me out a bit because they were absolutely not up to the task.
      
      However it was good to see that this level of security didn’t get people killed in NZ.
      
      A few weeks after I got here, an Armourguard van got stolen when they stopped at a dairy and went in to buy Cokes and a pie. WTF??? Do that in South Africa and they’d have been left as corpses.
      
      It is a joke having security like this.
      
      Maybe they are Ok for making the people who have never really been threatened feel “safer”, but if the chips ever go down they are just a false sense of security.
      
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      February 23, 2018 7:49pm
    - RF
      
      Unfortunately our security guards are unarmed. I worked part time for a security firm in NSW and carried a 38 on the hip and shotgun with buckshot in the cab.
      
      No one robbed me..,.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:50pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @stephieboy
      My information suggests otherwise ,
      You didn’t read my link did you?
      
      The armourguard security guy gave evidence at the murder trial.
      This is what the link says:
      
      Armourguard security guard Neville Tahere was posted to Ashburton Winz for around two-and-a-half years before the shooting.
      
      Mr Tahere kept a daily logbook. On August 7, 2014 he wrote that Tully had “done his bun”.
      
      The following day when Tully appeared at the office, a trespass notice was served on him, which was effective for two years.
      
      When Tully showed up again on August 29, Mr Tahere explained that he couldn’t come in.
      
      Tully asked to speak with the case manager, who was Ms Adams that day, Mr Tahere said.
      
      Ms Adams told them that she was phoning the police and Tully left, the court heard.
      
      Mr Tahere was at his security station, in the reception area, on the day of the shooting.
      
      But he didn’t see the gunman enter the building.
      
      DigNap 15 was correct in his original comment here,
      Longknives is correct.
      You have misunderstood and misinterpreted your Newshub piece.
      You failed to read/or didn’t understand my link.
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:18pm
      - stephieboy
        
        I standby my original post and subsequent News hub quote !!
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:22pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Doesn’t matter what you stand by, stephieboy.
        
        There’s a NZ High Court Murder Trial testimony that states Ashburton WINZ had Security Guards on duty at least two and half years before Tully murdered WINZ staff.
        
        I’d trust that long before I trusted your interpretation of a journalist’s scribblings.
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:29pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Maggie Maggot.
        You really do carry on.
        Try for once seeing things from another perspective.
        You are a bore, a loud mouth and most often wrong.
        I’m struggling not to tell you to shut the fuck up.
        Ohh. Maybe try drinking a bit less too.
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:44pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Splooge
        
        and most often wrong.
        
        Always willing to learn from my mistakes…
        please provide corrections to where I have gone wrong today.
        
        Maybe try drinking a bit less too
        Oh didn’t you read that comment a couple of weeks back when Stephieboy called me a wowser?
        
        And guess what?
        
        I am — totally Teetotal…. no drink/no drugs….
        
        Any more smears, dear?
        
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        February 23, 2018 10:50pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Interesting Longknives how many decorated hero’s do not consider themselves as such or can relate blow by blow the incident that got them the award. They mostly put it down to their training prompting their actions when the situation occurred.
    
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    February 24, 2018 1:28am
- UpandComer
  
  It wasn’t a kid. It was multiple shooters who were professionals. It was a false flag. It stinks to high heaven and it is being shilled worse then any past event ever. David Hogg ‘is’ a paid actor. His father is on the NSA/FBI the local sheriff is ‘with her’ the school was basically an NSA compound. There is a photo of a black girl dead who isn’t in the listed victims. There was a drill that day. Shooting posts predate and pre-time the event. The poor fake shooters brother simply got interred in some hell hole deep state camp where he’s probably getting raped up the wazoo, and other individuals’ pictures were also in other so called crisis events. It was a false flag. People like Stephieboy can Snopes it all they like. They are going to demolish the school for no reason. They won’t release the security footage that definitely exists. CNN scripted all the media events after it. Hogg was green screened. Fuck the mainstream media. It was a false flag. Just more victims sacrificed to ZOG.
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:10pm
  - stephieboy
    
    UpandComer , did you get that false flag garbage from ? Infowars or WND or … ??
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:06pm
Andrei

LOL of the day

Don’t these cretins know that Coca Cola effectively invented “Santa” the feminine form for Saint in Spanish and not a forename
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February 23, 2018 4:40pm
- Inandout
  
  But Snopes says..no.
  
  https://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/santa/cocacola.asp
  
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  February 23, 2018 4:55pm
  - cmm
    
    Snopees is full of shit.
    
    Old Santa might have worn read and white and had a beard, but he was never the fat “ho ho ho” modern Santa.
    
    That was all Coke.
    
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    February 23, 2018 7:57pm
stephieboy

The hope here for the US is that both the NRA and Trump will fall if this line of investigation proves true ,

NRA, Russia and Trump: How ‘dark money’ is poisoning American democracy

• The FBI is investigating the National Rifle Association to determine whether Russians illegally funneled money through the organization to help the Trump campaign.
• Beyond Russian meddling, this allegation illustrates a problem of even broader scope in our political system.

As American communities continue to be victimized by gun violence — including the mass shooting yesterday, in Parkland, Florida — the National Rifle Association continues to wield immense influence over American legislators, primarily through enormous campaign contributions.

But when it comes to funding, the NRA may have finally gone too far: the FBI recently launched an investigation to determine whether a Russian central banker, and Putin ally, illegally funneled money through the organization to help the Trump campaign.

These allegations have prompted a complaint to the Federal Election Commission and an effort by Sen. Ron Wyden to obtain documents from the Treasury Department and the NRA. As shocking as other Russia-related revelations have been — attempts to hack voting machines, vast Internet propaganda, leaking of stolen campaign information — this allegation illustrates a problem of even broader scope….”

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/nra-russia-and-trump-money-laundering-poisoning-us-democracy-commentary.html

Looks promising !
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February 23, 2018 5:12pm
- UpandComer
  
  https://www.google.com.au/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/23/majority-hillarys-private-meetings-secretary-state/
  
  It’s hilarious the Google results for Clinton dark money. Google is fucked
  
  They, the Clintons and the DNC pioneered dark money. Christopher Hitchens and Peter Schweitzer and Robert Caro detail a small portion of it. The accusation is beyond retarded. Imagine what would happen if they checked the Southern Poverty Law Centre or Media Matters lol.
  
  Even liberal media are disgusted with Mueller. The man pins 50k worth of random Russian posts when one candidate had a $1billion budget who can’t speak English, weren’t and aren’t in the US, and posted in tiny fractions of the social media activities.
  
  All of it is a projection. Soros had the voting machines. It was the government leaking on behalf of the DNC.
  
  These guys are going to create a boom in gun sales the vendors could only have creamed of since Obama left. Good on them.
  
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  February 23, 2018 5:41pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Claim that George Soros owns U.S. voting machines is Pants on Fire!
    
    Our ruling
    
    “…Duffy said that there were unverified reports that a George Soros company was providing voting machines in certain states. In the week before Duffy said that, those reports had been fully discredited three times. Soros owns no company that offers voting machines, and the company named in the rumor has no voting machines in the United States.
    
    To call a baseless rumor “unverified” after it has been thoroughly debunked twists the meaning of the word.
    We rate this claim Pants On Fire. “
    
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/31/sean-duffy/wisconsin-congressman-fuels-soros-voting-machine-r/
    
    Even liberal media are disgusted with Mueller. ????
    
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    February 23, 2018 5:48pm
    - cmm
      
      “Our ruling”
      
      You’re part of politifact?
      
      Huh!
      
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      February 23, 2018 6:10pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Yes, stephie is in charge of factoids. Unironically that is also word of the day for Friday 23rd February 2018!
        
        factoid
        ˈfaktɔɪd/Submit
        noun
        an item of unreliable information that is reported and repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact.
        
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        February 23, 2018 7:21pm
      - stephieboy
        
        cmm and ABS, part of the alt right delirium syndrome ?
        
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        February 23, 2018 8:47pm
UpandComer

https://youtu.be/Jq0GReiZyKc

Anyone else aren’t this shit? Microcosm of the entire west. This is what happens when diversity becomes a powerful majority.

When the new leader confiscates the farmers, how long until they collapse, any takers? These mother fuckers can’t into farming. They’ll all starve and call it ‘Wakanda’. Fuck I wish realty would stop. I want to sing Kumbaya so much.
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February 23, 2018 5:27pm
- stephieboy
  
  Upandcomer , from what I can gather Lauren Southern is a failed alt right Liberation Ann Coulter / Pamela Geller Wannabe ,
  
  http://www.canadalandshow.com/lauren-southern-banned-by-patreon/
  
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  February 23, 2018 5:54pm
Johnboy

Why is it that when you follow brown folk down the road in their whanau taxi’s they all hug the center line ie: Keep right?
Why would anyone with half a brain drive within 300 to 150mm of the centerline?
It gets even worse when they have to pass parked cars. Why would you veer onto the otherside of the road, risking a head on, so you can give at least two metres clearance to the cars parked on your side? If you think I jest just try Treadwell Street Naenae any time you like! 🙂
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February 23, 2018 6:01pm
- Longknives
  
  You wanna see them on the Auckland Motorway in their Peoplemovers (Loaded up with seven or eight unrestrained passengers)
  Flying along on three tyres and a SpaceSaver wheel!
  
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  February 23, 2018 6:20pm
nasska

The New Zealand Islamic Association has said there is no longer room for extremists within their mosques.

Although a waiting list has been set up.
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February 23, 2018 6:08pm
- KKKKatee
  
  Tui ad maybe?
  
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  February 23, 2018 6:41pm
noskire

Enjoy Comrades https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig&t=83s
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February 23, 2018 6:39pm
- Longknives
  
  Communist.
  That video simply leaves no doubt whatsoever.
  
  Why are New Zealanders so fucking blind to this revolting woman?
  
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  February 23, 2018 6:48pm
  - noskire
    
    Leighton Smith has some thoughts about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0ydsOWplo
    
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    February 23, 2018 6:51pm
    - stephieboy
      
      This comment below has there true measure of Leighton Smith,
      
      Stopthegreed
      Stopthegreed
      5 months ago (edited)
      Leighton Smith thinks its okay to have sex with his wife even if she is unconscious say on Booze. Because she gave consent when she married him. Many people believe its rape if you cant consent. Not Leighton. He was taken off air after making that comment.This guy is a little redneck asshole
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:12pm
  - Johnboy
    
    The simple answer is that about half of New Zealanders are stinking bludgers so welcome a sad creature like her as their leader. I put the start of us going from ruggedly independent folk to sniveling beggars at approx the start of that filthy little Catholic bastard MJS’s reign! 🙂
    
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    February 23, 2018 6:53pm
    - Johnboy
      
      If you give idle fuckers free shit they just get even more fucking idle! 🙂
      
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      February 23, 2018 7:02pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Because they don’t know this video exists. She uses the word “Comrade” 15 times in 7 minutes. And she admits that her views haven’t changed since then and we have to tolerate her communist ideology.
    Make no mistake she’s a bloody wolf in sheep’s clothing. I can see the wolf, that’s for sure.
    The sooner she gets the boot the better.
    Some little nobody from Morrinsville is a Communist and thinks we should all be as well……
    Doesn’t do it for me…..
    
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    February 23, 2018 7:14pm
  - stephieboy
    
    long knives , et off the grass , I’ll believe when Jacinda announces the compulsory collectivisation of NZ Agriculture .
    
    You delude buffoon !
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:24pm
    - Harkman
      
      You’re up late mega troll, Labour must pay poorly.
      
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      February 23, 2018 10:30pm
- stephieboy
  
  Courtesy Whale Oil Propaganda Ministry !
  
  LOL
  
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  February 23, 2018 8:49pm
KKKKatee

I’ve just seen the PM on the news handing out the gong to the NZer of the year. It’s a bloody hot February and the bimbo (PM) is wearing some sort of hideous ankle boot! And looks like she was wearing some sort of long nightie affair as well.
Bogan is out PM, sophistication and elegance is in – but I don’t think she understands what that means.
Embarrassing…..
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February 23, 2018 6:40pm
- Johnboy
  
  As long as she doesn’t wear trousers( or shades) if she gets to meet Queenie! 🙂
  
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  February 23, 2018 6:43pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Reports suggest that Anna Winter has an eye condition.
    Oh and Helen Clarke wore trousers when hosting a very important dinner for the Queen. Caused quite a stir at the time.
    Hey, but come on, those bloody boots!!!!!
    She brought the dress she wore at the swearing in ceremony on line and, incidentally, looked like she was off to a birthday party and wore bloody ankle boots with it too as well as thick black tights.
    Surely she can find a nice pair online – I know it’s not easy for her to pop into the shops like us mere mortals. But, honestly ………
    
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    February 23, 2018 6:55pm
    - stigie
      
      “Oh and Helen Clarke wore trousers”
      
      Most of her good friends wore trousers and im sure the Professor wore a skirt in the privacy of their sordid home !~
      
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      February 23, 2018 8:00pm
- Longknives
  
  Our supposed ‘People’s Princess’ just has the fucking worst dress-sense for someone on $500k and with Spin Doctors and PR people everywhere…
  
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  February 23, 2018 6:46pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Trash is as trash does old chap! 🙂
    
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    February 23, 2018 6:48pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Appears to have dress sense like the dykes…..
    
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    February 23, 2018 6:59pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Appears to have the dress sense of a dyke!
    
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    February 23, 2018 7:00pm
    - Que Sera Sera
      
      And you should go flush your mouth out with toilet water.
      Have some self respect, even if it only for yourself.
      
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      February 23, 2018 7:39pm
      - KKKKatee
        
        I’m not a dyke and proud of it!
        
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        February 23, 2018 7:46pm
      - KKKKatee
        
        Upticked in error.
        
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        February 23, 2018 7:55pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  KKKateee sweetiee, someone has forgotten to tell you that it’s our PM’s jewellery that has to be the focus of our attention.
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11999672
  
  Now, I do have a fashion quandry in the Jewellery line… Basically, I don’t do Jewellery… just a bare (cheap) silver wedding ring.
  At a push, I might throw on a string of pearls (cheap,?artificial).
  And I sometimes wear a big ugly swatch, silver/blue leather strap.
  
  Should I make more of an effort and start dripping in bling or is this just a wicked waste of Earth’s precious resources?
  
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  February 23, 2018 7:31pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Less is more……
    The key is to not look like a Christmas tree when it comes to jewellery.
    Jewellery doesn’t have to be the real deal.
    Fake pearls will do, most certainly.
    Simulated diamonds are ok as well. Nobody can tell the difference, though I do wear the real deal.
    After all, we don’t have “Jewellery Police” who can spot a fake over the real deal, like the “Fake Handbag Police” can do.
    And, no, I will not be rushing to order a piece of jewellery from this designer…..
    I happen to not like the PM’s choice of jewellery –
    Each to his own……
    
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    February 23, 2018 7:51pm
- RF
  
  Those bloody boots with the ankle strap.
  
  She wears them everywhere.
  
  You would think she could afford something classy. Maybe the boy friend is turned on by them.
  
  My late granny had an expression for slappers. Common as muck.
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:34pm
- Gabby
  
  Typical bloody woman banging on about clothes ‘n shit, next thing you know all the other old women will be chiming in about their exquisite dress sense.
  
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  February 24, 2018 12:01am
nasska

I’ll probably feel sorry for her when she’s in the third trimester of her pregnancy. This is when it’ll start to become a strain, carrying all that extra weight on her knuckles.
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February 23, 2018 6:53pm
noskire

John Key was often accused of being a “populist politician.”
The Marxist, Comrade Jacinda has taken it to the next level. There is no substance in what she says (and Gold-member of PornHub Grant Robertson always seems to be close-by).
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February 23, 2018 7:12pm
Manolo

The incompetent messiah encounters some opposition:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/obamacenter/ct-met-obama-center-tension-20180208-story.html

The Obama Foundation’s plans to build the Obama Presidential Center in Jackson Park have sparked a complicated, and at times emotional, conversation about race, class, segregation, privilege and power on the South Side.
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February 23, 2018 8:27pm
Manolo

She does not know when to quit:
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/07/582285818/will-age-become-an-issue-in-dianne-feinsteins-re-election-campaign

It can be a delicate matter to bring up someone’s age. But in California, Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s age has become a openly discussed issue in her campaign for a fifth full term.

Feinstein — a Democrat — is 84, making her the oldest member of the United States Senate.
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February 23, 2018 8:29pm
AgentBallSack

I do not know so much about Planet Key,
but my expectations are,
It would be a lovely place to be.

It would be beautifully governed,
Golf courses would be plentiful.
People would have plenty,
of holidays to enjoy their Time.

And what a wonderful place it would be!*

*John Key, Prime Minister of New Zealand 2008-2017

Planet Key

Doesn’t sound so bad now, does it?
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February 23, 2018 8:55pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  When the right wing start writing songs about raping members of Jacindas family and murdering them, I expect the left will show the same sort of tolerance?
  Wait, people would actually have to give enough of a fuck about her first.
  
  FUCK JACINDA ARDERN! FUCK JACINDA!
  repeat ad nauseum.
  
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  February 23, 2018 9:06pm
  - Que Sera Sera
    
    You sir, need to brush up on the laws of our land.
    That is the most disgusting thing I have ever read.
    
    I hope some person will take you to the cleaners.
    
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    February 23, 2018 9:28pm
    - nasska
      
      How did you feel when your Labour MPs smugly yet tacitly approved of a bunch of shithead “musicians” wanting to rape a 17 year old kid for no better reason than her dad didn’t fit their political ideology?
      
      You want scum, have a look around your own stinking nest!
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:41pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Tacit approval?
        
        J Ardern is on record saying that it is her favourite band!
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:44pm
      - Que Sera Sera
        
        Nasska
        I have seen the things that you write on here, and you should not be proud in any way yourself.
        Some of your writings are pure filth.
        
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        February 23, 2018 9:55pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Why didn’t you take Crim dot com to the cleaners then.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:50pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Have a read of this then…
      
      https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/08/some_lyrics_from_the_kill_the_pm_song.html
      
      And even 4 years later… This crap is treated as “culture”
      http://www.noted.co.nz/culture/music/in-the-recording-studio-with-home-brews-tom-scott/
      
      Perhaps it will provide some background.
      
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      February 23, 2018 9:51pm
    - Nookin
      
      Que SS — you have just proven the agent’s point –incontrovertibly. Well done.
      
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      February 23, 2018 11:30pm
  - stephieboy
    
    ABS, accept the fact your part of a slither of a deluded alt right minority !
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:14pm
  - stephieboy
    
    ABS, time for your meds and straight jacket !
    
    https://www.healthnavigator.org.nz/medicines/a/antipsychotics/
    
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    February 23, 2018 10:16pm
nasska

…..”I expect the left will show the same sort of tolerance”…..

Doubt it. I’ve come under attack for calling her Chompers & mentioning the fact that she’s milking the pregnancy for everything it’s worth.

The Left become totally unglued when facing 5% of the shit they slung at John Key’s family never mind the man himself!
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February 23, 2018 9:17pm
- SPLOOGE
  
  Smart arse Key raped the NZ dollar using his inside knowledge to make his 50 mil and he’s a hero.
  He cost the country billions.
  (simplified)
  
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  February 23, 2018 10:51pm
- Gabby
  
  Paw widdle snofwake nutsack, diddum big mean wefties be hobbible to woo?
  
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  February 23, 2018 11:54pm
Manolo

The fake-news industry:
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2018/02/23/msnbc-freaks-lying-trumps-strange-speech-was-dictators-cuba
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