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Monique Watson

Nikki Kaye is the only one who can take out the Mom to Be. Mark my words Bridges will fall by the wayside after being an interim.
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February 14, 2018 8:02am
- tf78
  
  Don’t forget whoever it maybe will have to contend with the cantankerous old bugger for sometime and I don’t think Nikki would be up to that – we realistically in my opinion need Crusher to fight fire with fire. It’s the country we need to worry about not a battle for the glossies.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:05am
  - Kimbo
    
    But that is in part where the country will be won and lost- the women’s mags and assorted social media. I don’t make the rules, I just report them. ?
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:12am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Sadly true, the swing voters that have to be won over are mostly ignorant, young, thickos
      
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      February 14, 2018 8:36am
      - Kimbo
        
        Is the primary reason for the demise of the Maori Party in 2017 imho. Jacindamania and Tamati Coffey beat out a giant like Te Ururoa Flavell?!
        
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        February 14, 2018 8:54am
      - GoVege
        
        A “giant” like Te Ururoa Flavell, Kimbo?
        When did he ever call Maori men to account for their violence, crime and abandoning of their kids?
        I recall well him mocking Cunliffe for his apology for men’s violence, when many of the women in refuge are there because of MAORI men.
        
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        February 14, 2018 7:45pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    I wouldn’t be sure about that. All the MSM have turned into the Women’s Weekly or “That’s Life” mags
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:19am
    - Piniwi
      
      Yes MW with so many “news” items that are headed “Opinion” which when considering the content make them look more like a one eyed sailor. He too has o’pinion
      
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      February 14, 2018 11:13pm
  - Harkman
    
    I hate to say this but crusher will have National at at 30% by Christmas. Go back 9 months and talk to every Labour policy advisor and they’d tell you the same thing. Jacinda is a scatter brain. But it is swing voter land that decides these things. All I want is this to be a one term government and I’m flexible on who will do this but an old person may not win the general public.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:22am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Judith is not old. Besides, better a few more years of experience over a flakey overgrown teenager running the country.
      
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      February 14, 2018 8:33am
      - igm
        
        She is not a flakey teenager, she is a middle-aged immature unmarried mother with a below average IQ.
        
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        February 14, 2018 8:41am
      - Harkman
        
        If we were at war, I would want Crusher as leader in a heartbeat, but we are living in the era of social media. No doubt in the last day a Kardashian did something on Facebook, while Trump probably spent the night tweeting, while Lady Gaga is wearing flesh. But a right-wing politician needs to be great on social media to get around our leftist press. I can’t see Collins or Joyce fitting that. Sorry. We have to win elections.
        
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        February 14, 2018 8:54am
      - Piniwi
        
        @waikatogirl there is much difference between being a woman and a girl. As we understand that it is women who it is that have a vote too while being the segment of that gender who do actually vote.
        
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        February 14, 2018 11:18pm
  - Harkman
    
    Nikki fought cancer. That is a great story in swing voter land.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:29am
    - Monique Watson
      
      Exactly.
      
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      February 14, 2018 8:35am
    - starboard
      
      But so did chicken little..
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:04am
      - cmm
        
        Bloke’s cancer doesn’t count for much. Men are disposable.
        
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        February 14, 2018 9:41am
      - sam green
        
        Stop playing victim cmm.
        
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        February 14, 2018 9:45am
    - GoVege
      
      I remember her best for sending a young Indian man back to Fiji despite him needing a life-saving operation, and even though his family had raised all the money to pay for it.
      He died shortly after arriving in Fiji.
      
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      February 14, 2018 12:16pm
      - GoVege
        
        Funny …you were all so sympathetic to the white South African family that got sent back.
        
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        February 14, 2018 5:29pm
- brett68
  
  No, she won’t
  
  She’s just Ardern without a kid, so Arderns beat her already.
  
  Also, she’s more left than right, do you want National to be more like Labour? I certainly don’t.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:12am
  - flipper
    
    Brett …
    You have been drinking the WOHB Kool-Aid.
    A straw poll of our NP electorate Executive last evening put Adams away ahead of Collins. And if there are questionable ethics they reside with the ex taxlawyer – a person who seriously damaged NZ’s international reputation among jurists.
    So no to Collins., She is toxic.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:31am
    - brett68
      
      Adams is as dull as ditchwater she’s Bill English with a vagina.
      
      Bill stepped down because he knew he would lose again in 2020, to then pick a Bill English clone would be utter madness.
      
      Adams is not leadership material and will not beat Ardern.
      
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      February 14, 2018 8:36am
      - cmm
        
        Both Adams and Bill are leadership material.
        
        However they are not popular figureheads like Key etc.
        
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        February 14, 2018 9:43am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      And there is the problem. The party is disconnected from the real politik of it all. Denial is not a strategy. More Labour Lite will deliver the same result as 2017.
      
      This is about winning the election. It is not about appeasing the NP swamp.
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:36am
  - Monique Watson
    
    I call Bullshit on that. Kaye get’s the sympathy factor once the Women’s Weekly’s run the “has cancer prevented her ever having children”. And of course she’s more left than right as spokesperson for education up against the power of the unions with their mind control of swing voters. She’s got to go “softly softly”. Remember the Tolley years and the shit image she had?
    Bridges and Kaye ticket.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:56am
- Exclamation Mark
  
  A young woman who has never done anything other than be a politician? National has to do better than to try and match Labour’s flimsiness.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:17am
- pdm
  
  Kaye is too much of a left wing flake for mine.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:38am
  - Harkman
    
    What if she can win? Auckland Central is a lefty seat.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:56am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      She won by avoiding appearing on the same stage as Jacinda. Hardly going to work on the leaders’ debate nights
      
      She’s a Michelle Boag acolyte. Remember 2002?
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:40am
waikatogirl

Judith or Amy Adams, I say

Judith would run Winnie out of town. His rant shows he is clearly rattled
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February 14, 2018 8:03am
- Souvlaki
  
  A good test of the Nats caucus alright. Hoskings assessment ( on line) is on the money. Their BEST shot is with Collins…end of story really.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:07am
- Tarquin North
  
  W.O is already doing a hit job on Amy and probably everyone but crusher.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:07am
  - fernglas
    
    A hit job from Whaleoil is an accolade for any politician.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:15am
    - RalphT
      
      Yes, the kiss of death.
      
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      February 14, 2018 8:19am
  - Chris R
    
    It may be a “hit job” but what is stated at WO is 100% accurate…this assurance is based on personal knowledge. I agree that WO will die in a ditch for Judith but it is an admirable stance this time!
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:35am
    - flipper
      
      Bullshit ….
      MPs and Leaders of the National Party are put there by Members of the Party. Not directly of course, but they are elected only with Electorate support. There is no parachuting in National. As for toxic Collins, she wont get there no matter what her non party members supporters, and others here and elsewhere, may say.
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:08am
      - Chris R
        
        Have you not pondered that WO’s (and others) reservations about Ms Adams have been engendered by post-election conduct? I suggest you have failed to do so. I suspect you’re right regarding Judith Collins but I am still deciding whether that is a good thing or a bad thing…
        
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        February 14, 2018 9:26am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Great so the NP is going to install a liked muppet rather than a winner.
        
        Sounds like National deserves to be in opposition.
        
        Adams is a Theresa May
        
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        February 14, 2018 9:44am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Maybe you should retire Flipper
        The Nats should rejuvenate and move on from ‘pale stale males’
        That’s if they want to win.
        It’s time for a bold generational change. Not the same old same old
        The base is solid so time to do it.
        
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        February 14, 2018 10:12am
  - cmm
    
    There is a time I would have put money in WO’s donation account. Now I wouldn’t even piss in his begging bowl.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:39am
    - Biscuit
      
      cmm, I read a great putdown once that you (and I) might very well use about the current day WhaleOil.
      
      ‘I’d contact the Fire Brigade if I ever saw his house on fire. I hope it wouldn’t be a waste of an envelope and a stamp…’
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:36am
      - MH
        
        return to cinder…
        
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        February 14, 2018 4:36pm
- brett68
  
  I believe that National will end up going with the dour and Theresa May like Amy Adams.
  
  Ugh.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:15am
  - Harkman
    
    Yes, Bill grew on me and he will be sorely missed, but I was initially worried that the public of NZ, >90% live in cities would turn up their noses at a rural conservative from old NZ, but he had a good track record of success and grew on people with his walk-runs etc but I’m worried Amy may get hit by my worries I had about Bill initially.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:35am
  - waikatogirl
    
    That has worked so well in Britain. May is a disappointment so far.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:35am
    - pdm
      
      May is a battler though – she could have walked away several times but has hung in there.
      
      The alternatives don’t look great from this distance.
      
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      February 14, 2018 8:40am
- redeye
  
  Going by the number of the septic lefties on yesterdays Bill Retires thread it’s obvious they have a real sense of relief that their main worry is now gone.
  
  I personally prefer Judith Collins but her association with Slater will be used over and over again which is a shame.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:20am
  - KevOB
    
    Is it not Slaters associating Judith Collins name with his?
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:26am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Slater to National is like KDC to the Internet Party, only without the $
    Totally toxic.
    Judith would have to put a lot of distance between them to make her leadership work.
    
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    February 14, 2018 4:02pm
  - Piniwi
    
    @redeye there is one attribute that Judith Collins over the Commie Chick apart that is already being a clear speaking person. It is her ability to crush somebody the nicest possible way in the most eloquent manner. Done so well it leaves the target so puzzled the best they can muster is one of those awkward grins.
    
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    February 14, 2018 11:29pm
- Kimbo
  
  Peters is a peripheral target as he likely won’t be there after 2020, either through self retirement or because his voters will punish him- yet again! – for over promising and under-delivering. The target is Ardern and her government’s collective ineptitude. Adams is the safer bet and doesn’t have Collins’ polarising factor. But if she gets no traction, then they can always go to Collins after, or maybe even just before the 2020 election.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:21am
  - Happychappy
    
    Sorry to hear about your health Kimbo but I am sure if anything can beat it your competitive nature will.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:44am
    - Kimbo
      
      Cheers, Happychappy.
      
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      February 14, 2018 8:58am
  - KevOB
    
    They need Collins now. Labour are both incompetent and naturally deceitful. My turn on the hustings showed that. Their election campaigning never ends–nor does the dirt.
    To rout these sorts something stronger is needed than the inherent National decency. If the opponent is not fighting fairly and you have to, what are your chances?
    
    This does not mean National has to give dirt for dirt but to recognise the hidden ongoing Labour plans and stand up to them. Bullys hate being attacked and Judith has good weaponry. As, say, deputy with a mandate to reveal Labour’s underground scheming, entrapment and cronyism and the rest…
    
    We have the worst of MMP at present don’t let it continue by default. A bunch of commie amateurs about to face a GFC. A bunch who believe in their right to govern at all costs as their self assessed principles far exceed all others in virtue.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:47am
    - Kimbo
      
      No, as I mentioned yesterday Collins would never work as a deputy, in the same way Muldoon, initially unintentionally undermined his leader Jack Marshall. Even if she was loyal the press would always be highlighting the matter of her ambitions and drawing unfavourable comparisons with the incumbent. Like Alex Wyllie and John Hart, some people are unable to operate as deputies, and they end up destroying their leader and themselves.
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:03am
      - flipper
        
        Good analogy Kimbo.
        
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        February 14, 2018 9:10am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Not sure I agree with that Kimbo
        Since her demotion she has not done any undermining but just got on and been a solid performer and very effective st giving the Govt heaps of shit.
        
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        February 14, 2018 10:15am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ All_on_Red
        
        …as Muldoon did for most of the time he was deputy to Marshall from 1972-74. It was only near the end that Muldoon had enough, or at least acceded to others initiating the coup against “Gentleman Jack”. Didn’t stop endless press speculation for two years, and Norman Kirk in particular milking the theme of “National Party leadership instability”. Plus, like Muldoon, and John Hart with Alex Wyllie, Collins does not have the temperament to be a deputy. Like the scorpion who stings the frog giving him a lift over the river so they both ended up drowning – it’s her nature! 😉
        
        Then there is the “rust-never-sleeps” Cam Slater factor…
        
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        February 14, 2018 10:23am
      - KevOB
        
        Some people do have to be out in front, others can lead as #2, again others lead as leader-in-waiting. Some pegs are hard to fit.
        Providing Judith Collins has got the mandate to rip the Labour Party to shreds she’ll do wherever she’s placed.
        
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        February 14, 2018 3:24pm
  - tf78
    
    How about start off with Collins as PM, Joyce as Deputy (and finance), then Collins can step aside, Joyce then step up with Amy becoming Deputy. Pretty clean and takes care of Winnie the Pooh at the same time.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:54am
    - Kimbo
      
      English was the transition leader. Now is the time to pick the likely winner for 2020, not engage in musical chairs which would destabilise National as Labour were from the time Clark stepped down until Jacinda Ardern caught the Hail Mary pass less than 2 months before the 2017 election.
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:07am
      - KevOB
        
        Labour already has National destabilisation under way. They don’t have brains but they do have memes. Their team extends well beyond Parliament.
        
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        February 14, 2018 3:26pm
- Lance
  
  Winny gets a new set of people to have conspiracy theories against. His voodoo doll collection just be getting very large.
  
  I like the idea of Colins sticking it to the old bastard
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:34am
Monique Watson

#’s 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 and 11 are far too controversial. Amy Adam’s is in Selwyn so is too far away from the Beltway. Scrub the List MP’s. Bridges as interim LOTO but he won’t make inroads on Jacarinda’s popularity.
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February 14, 2018 8:08am
kowtow

The left call it the diversity dividend.

‘The terror threat to Europe will only increase this year, experts have warned, as growing numbers of foreign fighters return home with “high tech” weapons knowledge learned on the battlefield.’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/13/europe-will-see-increase-terror-2018-foreign-isil-fighters-return/
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February 14, 2018 8:10am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Let the “foreign fighters” with their zealotry and their “high tech weapons knowledge learned on the battlefield” return to Europe. What could possibly go wrong?
  
  Don’t governments have a duty to protect their citizens from this kind of risk?
  
  I don’t think that some countries can tell the difference between immigrants and colonists. It’s an important distinction. The immigrant wants to become like their new country; the colonist wants their new country to become like them.
  
  Here’s another clue.
  Q: What do colonists do after they settle in a new country?
  A: They form colonies.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:44am
Gravelroad

This site seems to be increasingly taken over by foul-mouthed ranters whose only contribution to a debate is insults, name calling and sicko commentary eg Splooge.
I guess he/she has been banned off WOBH?
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February 14, 2018 8:10am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  For the 4 years that I have been here, this site has always had foul, abusive contributors who would not last long on other sites.
  
  Of course they are a silly distraction at times, but you can work around them.
  In the long run, their words/rants serve as testimony to their inadequacy in being able to put together a decent argument or rejoinder.
  
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  February 14, 2018 9:17am
oldpark

NZs self appointed wee Dictator a guy called Peters really crossed the line yesterday on his vile comments against Bill English and the National Party.
Looking and sounding like Death Takes a Holiday,or even worse a South African ZUMA or Mugabe he also made the comment that his judas decision quote unquote, to shaft the Party with the most votes at the last election,was for the benefit of the “Country”.
Peters has become totally a legend in his own Slime.Not fit to lick the boots of Bill English who is all integrity and class.
What a disaster for NZ the resignation of Bill English thanks to the vile utu and dictatorial attitude of Peters.
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February 14, 2018 8:11am
- Harkman
  
  Yes, he really is an apocalyptic arsehole. The good thing is he won’t get to make a final speech when he is booted from office, if he lives that long.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:39am
- hullkiwi
  
  How much more of this is National going to let Peters get away with? It is time for National to start feeding Peters some of his dead rats, and expose him for he vile man he is.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:55am
  - Prince
    
    Absolutely agree.
    Peters has attacked National for 9 years now and got litle in response.
    Time to give some back, ask questions about the money he never repaid, the lies and the nonsense he spouts daily.
    Drive him under 5%, make it clear National would never consider a coalition with him, tie Labour to his corruption permanently.
    
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    February 14, 2018 10:24am
    - Piniwi
      
      Maybe Prince it is wearing a bit thin if OQT today is any indication. In lieu of an “answer” he started his response with “Between 2008 and 2017 to the sounds of loud laughter from the House. No help to the Speaker who had started to loose control made even worse by questions made to Jackson. Laughs were the only part that was comprehendible.
      
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      February 14, 2018 11:58pm
- cas
  
  Winston’s answers to questions in Parliament yesterday were scripted by Sir Humphrey Appleby. And his remarks about Bill English and John key were in dreadful taste. Can’t the man just shut up if he’s got nothing nice to say.
  
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  February 14, 2018 9:11am
Happychappy

Who does Winston Peters think he is with his comments about National not being able to win the 2020 General Election. Instead about worrying about who will be National Leader this leech should be looking at his own Party and the polls as the the voter in NZ has had a gutsful of his style of politics and will make sure he will never be able to lie to them again about who he wants as the next Government of NZ.
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February 14, 2018 8:12am
- fernglas
  
  Wow, oldpark and Happychappy both firing on Winston at the same time. Reminds me of the two old dudes in the Muppets, in the best possible way.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:18am
- softail 1450
  
  Happy Chappy,Winston doesn’t care he’s going to retire by 2020.
  thats the most galling thing, we wont be able to enjoy his demise because he’ll be gone.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:19am
  - sooty
    
    I disagree. Whinney will be retired by the electorate. He dont have a choice.
    
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    February 14, 2018 11:52am
- cmm
  
  Quite. Having just “won” the 2017 election for himself with 7% by king-making he is in no position to talk.
  
  As for 2020, the pollsters have him at 3% (and no doubt falling). Not exactly putting him in the winners’ circle. Off to make jellimeat more like.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:24am
Souvlaki

Jacinda in the house banging on about child poverdy again….who is going to mention the elephant in room…. strong association with unmarried mothers?!
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February 14, 2018 8:12am
- Digmen1
  
  And lack of education and skills.
  
  Ie you do not see many poor tradies with 6 children living in a state house.
  
  We need to stop the dpb so that these Maori and PI girls get the message that they cannot see opening their legs to some loser is a career option. (to be paid for by working people)
  This applies to European whales as well.
  
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  February 14, 2018 9:01am
  - Prince
    
    When you measure poverty as being under 40% of the median wage, the causes cease to be social environment, and more about mathematical certainty.
    
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    February 14, 2018 10:27am
  - GoVege
    
    Digmen: the trouble is many of these girls couldn’t get a job.
    In the past the guy who got them pregnant was forced to marry them, or the family took the baby.
    But there was no abortion then and contraception was hard to get.
    Now they have a career on the taxpayers back…as do their kids. ..and grandkids…
    
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    February 15, 2018 10:12am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I am minded of the comment BE made during the election campaign that the Nat govt had spent a lot of time and effort trying to accurately identify the drivers of poverty and was in the process of addressing the issues.
  Charter schools was one of those tools in picking up failing kids and putting their feet firmly on pathways to success.
  Remember the outrage when MSD were offering incentives for contraception, relocating for work, budgeting assistance with benefits being paid in vouchers or rent direct?
  There is no way this shower of ideologues will ever reduce poviddy, but they’ll waste a lot of money making it worse.
  
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  February 14, 2018 4:23pm
  - GoVege
    
    Paying young teens to drag up neglected kids at the taxpayers expense is “our fertility”, Shaun.
    Paying them to avoid this is genocide. 🙂
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:12pm
- Piniwi
  
  Nobody Souvlaki especially the Septictank who seems so proud of how much money will be thrown at them from the family package.
  IMO that policy and the free tertiary blow outs will more gobble up the still even better gains in the figures now released.
  
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  February 15, 2018 12:07am
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I know nothing about Adams and frequently get her mixed up with Nikki Kaye – neither of them have done anything that I can immediately think of.

To me Simon Bridges comes across as a complete spiv – would say anything to anyone for a vote

Collins is the only one I would vote for, she is the only one who could put Labour on the ropes and keep them there I reckon. As much as it shouldn’t matter – being female is going to be a big help against Adern with her pregnancy.
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February 14, 2018 8:13am
- Kimbo
  
  I was impressed with Adams’ decision in the Bain compo matter. Like Collins she rightly – IMHO – refused to take the easy option of accepting Binnie’s shit report that gave an easy political out. Yet Adams rightly factored into the equation the fact that Simon Power’s crap decision to appoint Binnie in the first place resulted in extra unnecessary costs for Team Karam/Bain trying to over turn Collins’ rejection of Binnie’s recommendation.
  
  Also, while Adams’ original compo offer to Teina Pora may have been over turned (by the new incoming government?) good on her for hanging tough over paying out tax payer money. Foetal alcohol syndrome or not, Pora was not a complete victim in the matter, and the Crown is not responsible for the fact his original trial lawyer(s) did such a shit job. It was their job in the first instance to bring to the court’s attention the matter of Teina’s diminished mental capacity. Indicates to me that unlike Theresa May, Adams has some back bone, but not in the polarising manner of Judith Collins.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:39am
  - flipper
    
    Kimbo ….
    Sorry, your Heron-driven beltway view is not shared by reputable international jurists (like Binnie) have studied the matter in detail.
    
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    February 14, 2018 9:17am
- Prince
  
  Let me help. Nikki Kaye is the one who defeated Ardern, twice, in elections.
  She’s not running.
  This time.
  I think of the contenders, she will win in 2023, probably with Bishop as deputy.
  
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  February 14, 2018 10:30am
waikatogirl

Neither Simon Bridges or Jonathan Colman have the X Factor. As soon as Jonathan begins to speak I have trouble keeping my eyes open.

#Team Judith ?
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February 14, 2018 8:14am
Monique Watson

Crusher and Adams are exceptionally competent but the first doesn’t know how to control her extremes of temperament and the second is as I have said: out of the loop. National will worry far too much about doing it right instead of going with the times. Which is that younger women are seen as capable of picking up defense and GCSB and all the important shit and actually it’s more about image and generational change. Wino becomes irrelevant as soon as the election is won.
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February 14, 2018 8:14am
- waikatogirl
  
  Nah Monique, you need a woman but the exact opposite of Cindy, not the same. Nikki Kaye is not in the same league as Judith.
  Like many I know little about Amy as she has not had a high profile but she appears to be too soft to be effective as leader of the opposition to Princess Cindy.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:26am
  - Monique Watson
    
    I’m not picking Kayye this time, I’m picking Bridges. He’s the Shadow and the safe choice
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:37am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Brylcreem Bridges, Nah.
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:10am
      - lifesgood
        
        My son visiting from overseas heard Bridges speaking on TV and thought he was “special”, if you know what I mean. He hadn’t heard of him before and fell about laughing at his poor diction and speech. Nope, no good as an effective leader where being articulate is vital. About the only strength Jacinda has is being articulate even if what she says is all air and no substance.
        
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        February 14, 2018 11:29am
Ross12

I just heard Soper on the News saying National cannot afford to have the massive internal fight they had last time when John Key resigned.
What is he talking about? As far as I’m aware last time went reasonably smoothly or if there was any fighting it was behind closed doors.
Soper seems to be taking lessons from his drinking buddy –Peters.
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February 14, 2018 8:15am
- G152
  
  Soper has to appear (to Soper) to matter.
  Got to keep up the fake news output
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:20am
- hullkiwi
  
  Taking lessons? Don’t”t you mean repeating Peters’ distorted view of the world?
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:28am
- waikatogirl
  
  Yesterday Soper praised Bill for getting the country through the GFC but stuck the knife in by saying Bill borrowed heavily. Soper, of course, failed to mention the borrowing was due to the deathly earthquake damage in Christchurch and the huge cost of rebuilding infrastructure.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:30am
  - sam green
    
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    Get truthful about what the tax cut bribe 9 years ago cost and is still costing today.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:49am
  - tf78
    
    And no money in the kitty thanks to Sir Michael Cullen.
    
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    February 14, 2018 9:03am
  - Piniwi
    
    But they just don’t understand the difference of “needs” borrowing as opposed to “wants” or feelz borrowing. The COL made a lot of very costly promises we knew as desperate bribes with no real expectation of having to honour them. Now they have little choice but to get the country donkey deep in debt again for no other reason than their recklessness.
    
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    February 15, 2018 12:17am
softail 1450

I’ve never liked collins but she is my pick ,this national party has been far to nice since parliment restarted this year.
what is needed is toughness and tenacity,collins has both .
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February 14, 2018 8:15am
- Exclamation Mark
  
  Actually I think this is it. I don’t think National need to provide someone who does a nice interview in Woman’s Weekly – they will never match Labour there – all they have to do is get some big hits on the CoL (keep hammering the charter school lies and hypocrisy for one) and once they have a few scalps watch it all fall apart. Winston won’t be round to save them next time.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:23am
  - KevOB
    
    They also need someone who can dismember Labour’s PR machine. That is more extensive and corrupt than it appears.
    
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    February 14, 2018 9:03am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      And nasty. How could you forget the nasty?
      
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      February 14, 2018 4:47pm
  - MCos
    
    Governments don’t fall on minor issues like the charter schools which in any case will be long forgotten in three years time.
    Elections are normally won & lost on economic issues.
    
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    February 14, 2018 9:25am
VicParking

Let’s hope that for the next two weeks KB is not filled up with lounge chair experts and trolls telling us all who will run for leader of the National party.
The MSM is going to be “Fill of it” which I won’t be reading, please I don’t make me take a two week holiday from KB.
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February 14, 2018 8:15am
- waikatogirl
  
  Go on Vic, who do you see winning the leadership race?
  
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  February 14, 2018 9:13am
  - VicParking
    
    I will be commenting on who should win the race when I know who the starters in the race are. My beef is not with people commenting on who should win, just not before we know they are going to stand. At the moment I’m all for Crusher as she is the only one standing so far.
    
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    February 14, 2018 10:32am
hullkiwi

Bill talking to Espiner , I think said it best:
The Leader of the Opposition needs to be someone who can lead with constructive criticism, while being positive about New Zealand. He also said that they need to be someone who is not too hard on themselves and recognise the sternmost critics are most likely in their own party.

Bill also agreed the person has to be someone who can transition from opposition to govt.
Recognising the above & the personalities of the CoL, I don’t know about leader, but as deputy (opposite the pest I would have Collins).
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February 14, 2018 8:16am
- Paulus
  
  Whoever it is will be New Zealand’s next Prime Minister so careful thoughts not emotions (we have that already) are essential.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:23am
Monique Watson

I’ll preempt: F off Splooge you oxygen thief. The brains on this blog have a Leadership challenge to debate.
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February 14, 2018 8:16am
- softail 1450
  
  M W, yes you’re correct, but unfortunately that creature is so thick he won’t take the hint.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:25am
- Lance
  
  The worst thing you can do to a POS like that is to ignore it.
  That drives it round the bend.
  
  I recommend all here do that.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:38am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yep, realise that, but if I want to read smut with a creepy edge to it, I can go on Twitter for that.
    Don’t expect it on a reputable blog.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:57am
Paulus

Yesterday I found to be one of the saddest days over the tens of years that we have lived in New Zealand.
Bill English announced his departure from Politics, but the way that one person addressed his decision.
Not that.
It is the way that the venal, geriatric, semi senile, pill loaded, Peters commented on the twenty seven years service in the Parliament that English and his family have given to this country.
It will never be said that Peters did anything for his country in all the years he was an MP.
He is a selfish nasty old man. I am a similar age so I know what it is to be conciliatory as we also reach our twilight years.
All he has shown is how can I get whatever I want from all you suckers.
I am very saddened and disappointed at his attitude.
If he beats me to meet his maker then I will consider traveling to his burial place up North with a bottle of Whisky to pour over his grave – but only after it has been through my kidneys first.
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February 14, 2018 8:19am
- Tarquin North
  
  Well said Paulus – if you need a hand…..
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:27am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Very generous, but I am sure he can hold his own.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:44am
    - Tarquin North
      
      Set myself up there! Chippie would be proud of me.
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:46am
- KiWombat
  
  Never heard that one before – but what an appropriate location for it !
  
  Well done P
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:40am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Paulus , you have a spare set of theatrical tears ?
  
  Sniffle, sniffle , weep , weep
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:59am
  - starboard
    
    St Lukes is open shariaboy..dont you have some perving to do?
    
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    February 14, 2018 9:20am
  - VicParking
    
    Stephie you crying. Did the goat turn you down last night ??
    
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    February 14, 2018 10:34am
- starboard
  
  Peters is a maori and a lawyer..cunning as a shithouse rat. Where is the 158K you old derelict?
  
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  February 14, 2018 9:19am
- RF
  
  Paulus…
  
  It’s quite cathartic flushing your kidneys on evil people.
  
  Many years ago in another life I worked in a rural town that was my dear wife’s home town.
  
  I used to hear stories from her about a butch nun who made life hell for girls at the catholic school she taught in. These days she would have been locked up for her assaults and actions.
  
  Anyhow one quiet night shift whilst we were cruising around looking for bad people we called into the local cemetery just as the moon broke through the clouds. We were driving through the Catholic section and one white headstone appeared brighter than others. I was curious and checked to discover it belonged to the evil butch nun.
  
  It was obviously a sign from God and I had great pleasure to relieve myself on the grave of this POS.
  
  My wife bless her soul was not impressed when I proudly told her so I guess she was brainwashed. Poor thing.
  
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  February 14, 2018 7:52pm
billmurray

Winston’s petty remarks and the nastiness at the retiring of Bill English, is a true sign of the mongrel dog that this piece of shit is.
Winston you are a political prostitute, always were always have been.
A cheap 6 percent clown.
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February 14, 2018 8:21am
- Lance
  
  6% was the glory days, a lot lower now
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:40am
  - KiWombat
    
    6% Pfft – do really think his supporters will stand for that infantile behaviour?
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:42am
    - Paulus
      
      Yes, his supporters will give him all the votes he needs – most of them now have no idea what they do as they are as or more senile than Peters and they love his visits to the rest homes as he is the only person many see for years.
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:25am
      - KiWombat
        
        Rest home support is now at a record low, and reducing !
        Problem for WeeWinnie is his support base is dying out, and his behaviour is stopping people from climbing aboard his bus !
        
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        February 14, 2018 10:46am
      - sooty
        
        Yer, but is busy electionering allready in the rest homes. There goes his base.
        
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        February 14, 2018 11:55am
Inandout

Crusher would give us some of the old National back, a Party which had some right wing flavour. Labour lite National might be ‘middle of the road’, but offers voters nothing different.
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February 14, 2018 8:23am
I've been to Mecca and you have not!

It’s good to see the SJWs getting their beans over the Haiti Whores Affair.
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February 14, 2018 8:24am
- kowtow
  
  The next time Oxfam come looking for a few pennies off you ,remember how much the EU gives them. It’s not a charity , it’s a business . Like Ngai Tahu.
  
  ‘The probe from one of Oxfam’s biggest financial contributors could prove hugely damaging, with the bloc sending the charity £47.5million last year.’
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5383305/Oxfam-risks-losing-48m-EU-cash.html
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:34am
  - oldpark
    
    Not forgetting the flap jaw from Lie-bour the clown known as Phil Twyford is the founding Director of Oxfam NZ. Goes well with his other type of nefarious lies and innuendos. All not a good look.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:53am
    - I've been to Mecca and you have not!
      
      Help the poor by fucking whores. Great idea!
      
      How do I get my bit of this action?
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:06am
    - stephieboy
      
      old park , so Phil Twyford is somehow responsible for the later day actions of an alleged certain few in Oxfam ?
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:36am
      - oldpark
        
        SHARIAGIRL/BOY.
        Still waiting for you to answer the question. What is you’re take on your mate Mohammed having sex with a nine year old girl and marrying her.Not a good look. Would Mohammed qualify for the Harvey Weinstein award from #Metoo.
        
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        February 14, 2018 9:56am
      - sooty
        
        Well why can you keep going on about John Key?
        
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        February 14, 2018 11:58am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Oldpark
        
        Stephieboy isn’t very good at answering questions about what he thinks.
        I’ve got 5 waiting for him today, so far.
        
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        February 14, 2018 12:03pm
      - stephieboy
        
        old park , the age of consent in Europe and America explained. As you will see in Mahomet’s time the age of consent in Europe was the same as Muslim world . Common to marry a nine year old in both societies
        But most usually the marriage was not consummated until the bride reached puberty ,
        
        https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/
        
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        February 14, 2018 12:04pm
      - simpleton1
        
        Age of gurgling ? This given to be ok today !
        Can you speak against Khomeini?
        Can you speak against Mohammad? in how he practiced this with Aisha, and now leads to this current practice.
        
        Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:
        
        “A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby.
        However, he should not penetrate.
        Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life.
        This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister.
        
        It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband’s house rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven.” https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/36138/did-ayatollah-ruhollah-khomeini-the-supreme-leader-of-iran-say-this-about-pedo
        
        Read that whole article that shows the full translation, and reflect next time what you are ok with, when you serve that cup of tea, at the end of the month on Sunday in your local.
        
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        February 14, 2018 12:49pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        Stephanie, you’re one of the mob who play guilt by association (no matter how tenuous the connection) about John Key & other National party people, now the boot is on the other foot! Just suck it up….
        
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        February 14, 2018 5:53pm
      - GoVege
        
        “Ifda”/ “tearing”.
        Doesn’t come up when Googled, for good reason no doubt.
        Absolutely appalling that Sharia law apparently allows the sexual abuse of little girls, even babies.
        Considering that Islamic culture promotes the sexual mutilation of little girls, it’s not too hard to believe they would tolerate this.
        I recall some years ago some savage was on the run here in NZ after doing the same damage (“ifda”) to his own baby daughter.
        And in the West we whinge on about idiots like Harvey Weinstein.
        
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        February 14, 2018 8:57pm
  - Paulus
    
    Sadly not only Oxfam – there are many other NGOs who could be guilty as Oxfam.
    It is only they who have so far been exposed.
    
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    February 14, 2018 9:26am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It’s not going well for Oxfam..
    The Chairman of Oxfam International has been arrested for corruption.
    http://www.euronews.com/2018/02/13/oxfam-international-chairman-juan-alberto-fuentes-arrested
    
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    February 14, 2018 9:30am
    - stephieboy
      
      Is this some kind of attempt to put foreign aid NGOS on the skids and withdrawal from foreign aid altogether ?
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:39am
      - Jack5
        
        The baksheesh stops here.
        
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        February 14, 2018 10:08am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Is this some kind of attempt to put foreign aid NGOS on the skids and withdrawal from foreign aid altogether ?
        
        I very much doubt it.
        What do you reckon stephieboy?
        Do tell us your views on charity workers who screw the dispossessed.
        
        Do you approve of cover-ups?
        Do you think these abusive charity workers had dysfunctional backgrounds?
        Do you think we should study the context of these episodes?
        Do you think the situation is more complicated than is being portrayed?
        Do you think it is an alt-right trumpeter hit job?
        
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        February 14, 2018 10:17am
      - Ross12
        
        No stephieboy.
        It is more likely the issues have become so bad the MSM cannot cover it up any more.
        
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        February 14, 2018 10:43am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @ross12
        
        Yep, now the truth is emerging.
        just like abusive priests school teachers , the charity abusers move from one place to another, leaving a trail of victims.
        https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/feb/13/oxfam-disgraced-haiti-official-liberia-post-roland-van-hauwermeiren
        
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        February 14, 2018 10:55am
      - Swifty
        
        That would be a good thing.
        
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        February 14, 2018 11:20am
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy W, . don’t forget US Evangelical Christians too as serial sex abusers
        
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        February 14, 2018 12:06pm
      - simpleton1
        
        Those squirrels ( US Evangelical Christians) will squirm, by their
        own prophet, as all who support islamic actions that harm children.
        
        Matthew 18:6 King James Version (KJV)
        6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
        
        It is that islamic ideology of that so called prophet Mohammad’s that supports thighing and even sodomy, when done within sharia law.
        
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        February 14, 2018 1:03pm
oldpark

Dont think who or what the new leader of National will or would make a difference.
Even if an election was held this weekend and National Got 59 seats. So what.
The pest for all reasons and seasons Peters with just 5% of the popular vote would veto the result.
Most people talk about what National could do.
They already did it, got the popular vote ,most seats.had the best Leader Bill English yet got shafted by a Three Time electoral seat loser called Peters.
Until National can find a way to Thwart the pest known as Peters,they will always be on a hiding to nothing. Even if well meaning and common sense NZ voters desire for National to be the Government,nothing will change.
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February 14, 2018 8:28am
- Poppa
  
  I am confident that Peters is a non factor next time around. Either he will quit or be punished by the voters.
  
  He was a complete embarrassment to himself & his party yesterday & people I have spoken to could not believe he would stoop so low.
  
  I will rejoice along with many others when his day is done in politics, & his party dust when he goes
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:38am
  - KiWombat
    
    Agree Pop. We will see him resign about this time next year
    
    Why?
    
    1. He hasn’t a chance at the next election.
    
    2. His superannuation will suffer if he stays on. His Parliamentary pension will be based, in part, on his salary whilst Acting PM and DPM. To wait another year will cost him too much, so we’ll see him go next year, it not end of this year !
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:47am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Pop I agree, at the moment the pest should be toast at the next election under current poll numbers.
    
    Although many expect him to be gone next election, I am not so certain, because:
    1. He’ll do his utmost to damage National, the vindictive prick he is; and
    2. He’s a politician & with the vanity to boot. So, the only way to get rid of him, is to grind him & his party into the dust.
    
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    February 14, 2018 6:09pm
cmm

Dear Bill

Thanks for many years of service.

While it might have been John Key on the quarterdeck, we know it was really your firm hand on the tiller that kept us off the rocks and relatively unscathed during the GFC.

Go have some well earned time with your family.

Regards

cmm
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February 14, 2018 8:29am
- KiWombat
  
  WeeWinnies contribution will just be a blank page in the record books.
  
  Bills page will remain there for generations to come.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:49am
  - cmm
    
    Blank would imply he did nothing.
    
    I would say he has been a drain on the system. He leaves a hole.
    
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    February 14, 2018 8:52am
    - KiWombat
      
      Is there anything less than a blank page?
      
      Keen for somebody to add a little wit here !
      
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      February 14, 2018 10:55pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Peters is the shit stain in the y-fronts that are NZ parliament.
    
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    February 14, 2018 9:14am
    - Jack5
      
      It’s MMP that’s the problem.
      
      Where is National going to get a coalition partner?
      
      ACT is now pretty much useless for pulling in votes.
      
      If Winston Peters’ health and age surprisingly allowed him to contest another election, would he ever now back National? And if not Peters’ party, who else will get over the 5 per cent barrier?
      
      The Maori Party? Even winning an electorate is a long shot for it, given Labour’s reconciliation with Maori.
      
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      February 14, 2018 9:26am
      - Ross12
        
        Jack
        I’m not sure you are right about the Maori Party winning an electorate being a long shot. Flavell and Tamiti did not lose by that much in their electorates. If The Greens get their way in the oil and gas area Tamiti would probably have a very good shot in the Taranaki area ( if he ran again).
        
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        February 14, 2018 10:41am
      - GoVege
        
        The Racist Party is a disgrace to Maori.
        Defending criminal gangs who pimp out hundreds of young Maori girls and sell drugs to Maori, destroying families and young people’s chances for a future, is inexcusable.
        Maori need leaders….not apologists for their criminal elements.
        
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        February 14, 2018 12:05pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Jack 5 , as I suggested resuscitate the Colon Craig Con Party looks a promising bet .
        
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        February 14, 2018 12:11pm
axeman

Meanwhile over in Trumpland, Barry the Kenyan be like, “Let me be clear, we can’t rig a Presidential election. Not even if we weaponize the FBI, buy a warrant, and wiretap your team. Trust me, I’ve tried it.” 😉
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February 14, 2018 8:31am
Monique Watson

There’s no chance of Collins, sorry boys. Notice how she is ranked lower than Smith 🙂 In fact you can scrub anyone ranked after #12 excepting Kayye. Coleman has a nothing portfolio with HS& R and Guy is in too risky an electorate.
Brownlee won’t be a match for Winnie over foreign affairs in the Public Eye.
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February 14, 2018 8:31am
- marcw
  
  Obviously you didn’t listen to Winston Mugabe answering Brownlee’s questions on Foreign Affairs yesterday. You couldn’t have a less useful, more obnoxious, and more disrespectful Minister of Foreign Affairs if you searched the world. Watch it your self and see if you stand by your assertions.
  
  https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=198222
  
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  February 14, 2018 9:19am
Happychappy

I have to say that there have been Speakers of the House from both Labour and National that have been bad but in the last 20 years we have had two from Labour Margaret Wilson and Trevor Mallard that have in my opinion made Parliament a circus to watch and has wiped out any chance their is of having a fair political debate on a Governments actions or policy. I think it is time to have a neutral Speaker control Parliamentry Question Time so the people that want to know the answers to questions concerning major policy can get truthful answers from MP’s without being hindered by the Speaker.
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February 14, 2018 9:00am
- Piniwi
  
  True happy but there was a classic today from the old WP raising a point of order to call for restoring dignity to the House. What a winner this old drunk is.
  
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  February 15, 2018 12:32am
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
I think one of the challenges for National is the potential infiltration of alt right rats and mice that has the potential to do huge damage . From a responsible party of the centre right to a party that could become the laughing stock of Aotearoa New Zealand and unelectable .
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February 14, 2018 9:05am
- Jack5
  
  Morning Stephie X. You still here?
  
  Thought the Immigration Department snoops might have tracked you down by now and put you on the plane to Stephiestan.
  
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  February 14, 2018 9:37am
  - stephieboy
    
    jack5 , National could do well not having your presence given your lunatic fringe views . Maybe there is a role for you in a resuscitated Colon Craig Con party .
    
    LOL
    
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    February 14, 2018 12:09pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Stephieboy – Do you share similar concerns about the post modernist Neo Marxists that already inhabit the Greens?
  
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  February 14, 2018 2:12pm
Odakyu-sen

Today’s Google banner has a pair of monomorphic waterfowl in love (it is also Valentine’s Day).

On the other hand, these identical-looking birds could be a gay couple. Who knows? (or cares.)
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February 14, 2018 9:10am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Who knows? (or cares.)
  We all should care.
  
  Gay ducks are buggering up some repopulation programmes.
  https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/extinction-countdown/gay-ducks-derail-repopulation-plan/
  
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  February 14, 2018 10:24am
Manolo

The Democrat’s fresh blood:
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/12/bernie-sanders-returns-iowa-feb-23-rally-pete-dalessandro/331893002/
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February 14, 2018 9:14am
UrbanNeocolonialist

If Collins is unpalatable as leader she would at least make a great deputy leader of opposition, might give her chance to slowly improve her public profile too.
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February 14, 2018 9:17am
Manolo

Volatility and the sharemarkets:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-wall-streets-fear-gauge-is-being-rigged-according-to-one-whistleblower-2018-02-13
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February 14, 2018 9:27am
sooty

Secret Cindy, will be travelling the country for the next month, giving interviews to womans mags, talking to kindergardens and old folks homes. Trying 5o be relevant over the storms in the islands, when she could not for NZ. Trying to get her face in the news, after all she is the unwed mother of the nations baby!
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February 14, 2018 9:28am
- Piniwi
  
  @sooty Starting tomorrow by missing question time leaving the old drunk to field a few more questions. The Speaker seems to be more tolerant with the old drunk who always tries to add a snide quip on the end of every response.
  
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  February 15, 2018 12:38am
Jack5

In Britain, gGolliwog resistance continues.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5384909/My-golliwogs-say-insists-pub-landlord.html
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February 14, 2018 9:39am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The golliwog is no doubt a symbol that blacks could find offensive.
  Any caricature that plays to one race’s stereotypes of another will be offensive to the latter. Take the “Hello gaijin party kit” that is popular in Japan. To many Japanese, the “gaijin” (Caucasian, typically American) is typified by blond hair, blue eyes and a large nose and prominent chin. Ref: https://kotaku.com/5946130/hey-foreigners-youre-a-party-joke-in-japan?IR=T
  
  Of course, this is all in jest, but some people can be pretty thin-skinned (when they have an agenda to push).
  
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  February 14, 2018 10:24am
  - stephieboy
    
    Odakyu -sen , I take the terms” slit eyes “ sits well with you for “Nips ” ?
    
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    February 14, 2018 12:14pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      stephieboy,
      
      “Language most shows a man; speak, that I may see thee.” (Ben Jonson)
      
      It is better that we say what is on our minds (in times of peace).
      
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      February 14, 2018 12:27pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Odakayu sen , is that green light to make racially offensive comments to Japanese when I visit a sake bar , restaurant etc ?
        
        The Ben Johnson quote is just an obscure , glorious way for to rationalise the use of derogatory and racially offensive language ,
        
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        February 14, 2018 12:46pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Go ahead Ralph
        You don’t seem to have a problem being a nasty smearing little prick on here
        So feel free to be rude in a restaurant
        This is a good example. Hardly Christian of you
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        stephieboy
        Jack 5 , I take it the terms like wop, wog , nigger ,coon , yid etc sit well for you and have come an established and frequent part of your word stock ?
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        February 14, 2018 12:52pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Odakayu sen , is that green light to make racially offensive comments to Japanese when I visit a sake bar , restaurant etc
        
        Now why on earth would you want to make offensive comments to anybody in the first place, stephieboy?
        
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        February 14, 2018 12:57pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy Wassileif , as you might be aware there are some alt righters here who believe demeaning and offensive remarks towards another race and culture is a norm and given .
        
        Such slurs have no place in a society that espouses civilised norms and values .
        
        Do you agree ?
        
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        February 14, 2018 1:51pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , sore and crotechety loser !
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:04pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Such slurs have no place in a society that espouses civilised norms and values .
        
        Do you agree?
        
        Oh absolutely, stephieboy.
        
        Now tell me why you have slurred my name repeatedly with claims that I am an Alt-right trumpeter?
        
        Tell me why you abuse your fellow KB commentors?
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:20pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Maggy W, not quite the same as calling someone a chink , nigger , wog , wop. etc Even the President would stop that low .
    
    Well I hope so .
    
    Don’t recall calling you a Trumpeter but since you seem often e’g espouse anti Muslim and Climate denial views it’s not difficult to get rather confused ,
    
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    February 14, 2018 2:30pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Don’t recall calling you a Trumpeter
      
      Well, it doesn’t really matter what you recall or not, stephieboy.
      
      All of your comments are archived here and easily searchable.
      
      since you seem often e’g espouse anti Muslim and Climate denial views it’s not difficult to get rather confused ,
      
      I’m glad to see you realise you are easily confused.
      
      I do not espouse anti-muslim views.
      I espouse anti-violence views.
      
      I defend the right of muslim women to go about their daily life and religion without threat of abuse, violence or war.
      They have the right to participate in a normal life in NZ without creepy comments about their breasts and looks being broadcast to everyone on this public forum.
      
      You are also confused about what I have posted here on KB concerning climate change.
      You have termed me a denier, and used other derogatory terms against me.
      I have no evidence that you understand the slightest thing about the scientific research into the Earth’s climate.
      Show me where I have ever written anything that denies that the climate changes.
      
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      February 14, 2018 2:57pm
      - stephieboy
        
        “I defend the right of muslim women to go about their daily life and religion without threat of abuse, violence or war.
        They have the right to participate in a normal life in NZ without creepy comments about their breasts and looks being broadcast to everyone on this public forum…”
        
        But many Muslim women like here in NZ and amongst the Kurds do . I would add Syria and Iraq too before the Civil wars and foreign intervention tore their country apart .
        
        Broadcast to this public platform ?.S top being such a wowser and prude .
        
        I defer to the opinions of Nobel Laureates not Climate denial conspiracy theorists like Donald Trump or you .
        
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        February 14, 2018 4:42pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        S top being such a wowser and prude .
        
        I don’t think anyone who reads what I write here would imagine that I am a prude.
        
        If we take one meaning of wowser – a teetotaller, then it’s no secret on here that, like any good Muslim, I do not take alcohol or recreational drugs.
        
        Do not confuse the violation of young women’s right to privacy with prudery or wowserism, stephieboy.
        
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        February 14, 2018 5:43pm
      - GoVege
        
        We definitely don’t think you are a wowser or prude, Maggie.
        But don’t you think you and others going on incessantly about SB’s ONE time inappropriate referral to a few unidentified teens is getting too much?
        
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        February 14, 2018 9:04pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack 5 , I take it the terms like wop, wog , nigger ,coon , yid etc sit well for you and have come an established and frequent part of your word stock ?
  
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  February 14, 2018 12:32pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    It’s interesting how words come in and of fashion and how the language evolves.
    
    Terms like “lipstick on a pig” and “nigger in the woodpile” which has simple and innocent meanings that are now pretty much outlawed.
    
    I havent used the term “one dumb fucker” for a long time, then I came to KB and started reading your posts stephiebitch and hello, there is terminology that has come back into vogue for me.
    
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    February 14, 2018 12:54pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I take it the terms like wop, wog , nigger ,coon , yid etc sit well for you and have come an established and frequent part of your word stock
    
    Now what makes you think that, stephieboy?
    
    Have you checked through all 15,150 comments of Jack 5 and discovered a pattern?
    
    Or are you just trying to place a nasty smear next to his name?
    
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    February 14, 2018 1:02pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Give up MW it is a no-win situation. It is not without notice that those racial derogative terms that include the native word starting with (P) might be the only concession that real people make to the PC mode. Unintentionally that is or should that be unwittingly?
      
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      February 15, 2018 12:48am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    stephieboy,
    
    In all seriousness, the real danger of words such as wop, wog, nigger, coon , yid, Jap, etc., is that they inhibit our desire to get to know the “other” and foster ignorance and misunderstanding.
    
    Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XBCumSQOnQ
    
    If you love your language and culture, learn another so that you may understand your own origins with a sense of perspective.
    
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    February 14, 2018 1:41pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Odakyu Sen , you may wish too ponder ethnic relations in Japan . Especially the plight of the Ainu , Koreans , Philipinnos etc ,
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_issues_in_Japan
      
      How do derogatory terms like Nigger , wop , wog, Jube etc helps to get to know another race better ?
      
      https://www.quora.com/What-derogatory-terms-did-Nazis-use-to-refer-to-Jews
      
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      February 14, 2018 1:56pm
      - Jack5
        
        But all these small ethnic groups in Japan are treated a thousand times better than Christians in, say, Pakistan.
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:19pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWxUVjfKowU
        
        In my opinion, individuals of Korean ancestry who are born in Japan, who have grown up in Japanese society really ought to apply to become Japanese citizens (especially the 3rd or 4th-generation ones).
        Chauvinism should have its limits.
        
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        February 14, 2018 3:11pm
  - Jack5
    
    Stephie, re your 12.32: My strong prejudices are pretty much limited to Stephiestanis. Tried to get over it, but your troll group is such a bunch of lying fanatics, that learning to like the people of Stephiestan has become equivalent to a regional alpine club making an expedition to K2.
    
    Your nasty racist comments directed towards Odakyu-sen at 12.14 are disgusting, but Odakyu-sen can and does stick up for himself.
    
    Those remarks are also further evidence of differing personalities of posters who use the Stephieboy pseudonym.
    
    The Stephies range from a person with a lightish touch to nasty mongrels, but all are ignorant of English punctuation, all are Muslims, and none grasps the idiom of NZ English. The personalities vary from one who is a mother, to at least one with the pornographic tastes and social behaviour of an over-sexed adolescent.
    
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    February 14, 2018 1:57pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Jack 5 , go and visit your Doctor .
      
      Seriously !
      
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      February 14, 2018 1:59pm
      - Jack5
        
        Duty Stephie:
        
        FFS!
        
        Stop putting spaces between the last letter of a sentence and the fullstop or exclamation mark.
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:17pm
      - softail 1450
        
        streppieboy, F O, goat herder.
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:22pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Jack 5 , a reminder ,
        
        Go and visit your Doctor .
        
        Seriously !
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:32pm
      - Jack5
        
        A Stephiestani doctor in action?
        
        Well, goodness gracious me …
        
        https://youtu.be/2nTBNHwar5o
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:41pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Jack5
        
        That’s an oldie but goodie.
        Of course it’s not PC today.
        I think you might have to go and do penance by listening to something like this:
        https://genius.com/Ice-cube-cave-bitch-lyrics
        
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        February 14, 2018 3:06pm
      - Jack5
        
        Wow, Maggy! Teenagers are listening to that!
        
        I wonder how Dame Devoid, who is all for putting limits on free speech, would classify Ice Cube.
        
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        February 14, 2018 3:25pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Jack 5
        Yep it’s a shocker..
        
        but it’s the type of crap that is being promoted to our young folk.
        Few people protest about these nasty violent lyrics.
        
        Remember when Marama Fox stood up against Dame Tariana Turea who wanted to bring the violent, female -beating rapper Chris Brown into NZ?
        https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/kiwis-don-t-need-chris-brown-to-show-them-how-transform-their-lives-maori-party-co-leader-q13780
        
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        February 14, 2018 3:34pm
Morrissey

Join the Army—get Ahed.

Her secret “trial” begins today.

“The IDF is the most cowardly army on earth.”—NORMAN FINKELSTEIN

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/02/13/im-ahed-tamimis-cousin-israel-needs-to-stop-imprisoning-kids-like-her/?utm_term=.f31ae6163dd1
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February 14, 2018 10:19am
- Morrissey
  
  Four people who no doubt applauded the shooting of Malala Yousafzai have registered with us, as of 11:50 a.m.
  
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  February 14, 2018 11:50am
  - Morrissey
    
    No arguments, mark you, only the dumb option of the downtick. But then how CAN anyone find words to defend the most cowardly army on the planet?
    
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    February 14, 2018 12:11pm
    - Garbageman
      
      I will answer on behalf of Kiwiblog: wanker from the Standard (probably banned again) trolls blog then doubles & triples down because no one gives a flying fuck what he thinks there you go you sad 4th rate stenographer that answer your questions
      
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      February 14, 2018 1:50pm
      - Morrissey
        
        No it doesn’t, Garbo. Abuse is not any kind of answer.
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:46pm
      - Swifty
        
        He craves attention – ignore the prick.
        
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        February 14, 2018 4:57pm
SGA

@Kimbo
In dipping in and out of Kiwiblog, I missed that you are being treated for cancer? Sorry to hear that. I’ll break my rule about putting personal stuff here. I’ve been down that road myself – surgery, chemo, radiation – just passed the two year so-far-so-good mark. It’s no fun 🙂
Take care.
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February 14, 2018 10:43am
- Kimbo
  
  Thanks mate. My motto is “kicking cancer’s arse”. 😉
  
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  February 14, 2018 10:44am
  - lofty
    
    Good stuff Kimbo..I wish you well.
    
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    February 14, 2018 11:27am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    All the best Kimbo.
    
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    February 14, 2018 12:55pm
Fletch

Happy Valentines Day, and Ash Wednesday (the beginning of Lent).
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February 14, 2018 10:46am
- Morrissey
  
  That means yesterday was Mardi Gras. Darn it, I forgot AGAIN!
  
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  February 14, 2018 11:11am
  - starboard
    
    Bet u were at the great akl fisting session morris..sifter ?
    
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    February 14, 2018 11:17am
    - Morrissey
      
      No, I missed that one too. Did you enjoy it?
      
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      February 14, 2018 11:28am
      - hullkiwi
        
        It got cancelled because it got pissed on, and toothcinda couldn’t virtue signal her diversity policy. How sad, not!
        
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        February 14, 2018 6:35pm
noskire

Judith Collins has too much baggage to be leader. I agree she is capable, and is popular among the National rank and file, but the left-wing media will not give her a chance.
However, with Simon Bridges as leader, and Collins as deputy it will be game on.
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February 14, 2018 11:24am
Swifty

Pigs.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11994079

Too brainless to even get their target right.
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February 14, 2018 11:28am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  They were no doubt drunk and looking for an excuse to beat up someone (as you do).
  So when someone they looked up to accused and sucker-punched this tattooed white guy, what more justification did they need? What would you do in their place?
  
  Remember: always follow the lead of a senior relative, and you won’t go wrong. No need to think of the consequences. (White punk probably had it coming to him.)
  
  Watch the progress of these four fellows after they are resettled in New Zealand. I am sure they will grow up to be hard-working and contributing members of society.
  
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  February 14, 2018 11:40am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Why can’t we take their NZ citizenship off them? They are Tongans after all!
    
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    February 14, 2018 6:40pm
Swifty

I strongly suggest France needs to tighten up on this issue.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/101425274/uproar-as-french-man-who-had-sex-with-an-11yearold-girl-isnt-charged-with-rape

Disgraceful.
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February 14, 2018 11:36am
EAD_TWO

For all those free speech warriors out there, it’s time to stand with GOP candidate Paul Nehlen who has been banned from Twitter. When an official candidate for Congress is banned from the public square that is Twitter, then Free Speech is truly dead in America:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2018/02/12/a-gop-politician-mocked-meghan-markle-as-a-prehistoric-black-briton-twitter-banned-him/

In a statement Monday, Nehlen called the suspension of his Twitter account “the epitome of interfering with a federal election” and an effort to “suppress right-wing political speech.”

“These are unprecedented, brazen acts of censorship by a corporate monopoly that controls a primary channel of public communication,” said Nehlen, who’s running against Ryan in the GOP congressional primaries in Wisconsin. “It has severely compromised the integrity of our election processes, and Congress needs to hold public hearings and conduct a full investigation into these matters without delay.”

“When you tear out a man’s tongue,you are not proving him a liar, you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
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February 14, 2018 11:37am
- Kimbo
  
  Pfft. Like Kiwiblog, Twitter is not 100% public. Participation is by invitation and dependent on behaviour that conforms to the standards of the owners. Don’t like it? Then you and the racist (yes, he really is) Paul Nehlen can go start your own race and Jew-baiting platform. Freedom of speech does not mean others are obligated to give you a hearing.
  
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  February 14, 2018 11:50am
  - stephieboy
    
    Kimbo, well said !
    
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    February 14, 2018 12:16pm
- Kimbo
  
  But hey, sometimes giving racists and anti-Semites a platform to express their thoughts is both amusing and in the public benefit. Nuremberg war criminal Julius Streicher of your beloved publication Der Stürmer, being dragged to the gallows screaming at his executioner “The Bolsheviks will hang you too one day”, and “Purimfest 1946!” springs to mind. 😉
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher
  
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  February 14, 2018 11:57am
Morrissey

GROPERS
No. 30: Rob Porter

“Rob Porter is a man of true integrity and honor and I can’t say enough good things about him.”—White House Chief of Staff, General John Kelly

This Valentine’s Day edition features yet another crony of the most notorious groper of them all, one Donald John Trump (no. 18 in our series)…..

John Kelly, the chief of staff, and press secretary Sarah Sanders at first defended staff secretary Rob Porter after media reports in which two ex-wives accused him of assault.

But the mood rapidly shifted with the publication of photos showing one of the women with a black eye, making his departure as a key member of West Wing staff inevitable. ….

…. Porter’s demise makes him the latest in a long line of White House casualties. Critics have suggested the case raises questions over the staff vetting process, Kelly’s judgment and the tone set by Donald Trump, who himself still faces multiple allegations of sexual misconduct. ….

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/08/rob-porter-domestic-abuse-allegations

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/13/white-house-rob-porter-due-process

“GROPERS” is presented by GroperWatch®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

1 George Herbert Walker Bush; 2 Bill O’Reilly; 3 Al Franken; 4 Robin Brooke; 5 Lester Beck; No. 6 Arnold Schwarzenegger; 7 Joe Biden; 8 Rolf Harris; 9 Harold Bloom; 10 Sir Jimmy Savile; 11 Dr Morgan Fahey; 12 Prince Harry; 13 Bill Clinton; 14 Judge Roy Moore; 15 Matt Lauer; 16 Richard Branson; 17 Warren Moon; 18 Donald John Trump; 19 Damian Green; 20 Gene Simmons; 21 Sylvester Stallone; 22 Louise’s husband Charlie; 23 Father O’Hagan (AKA “Father Gropius”); 24 David Lloyd George; 25 James Franco; 26 Joel Kramer; 27 Rene Naufahu; 28 Steve Wynn; 29 Vince McMahon
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February 14, 2018 11:44am
- GoVege
  
  Groping is just part of the alpha male condition, Morry! 🙂
  
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  February 14, 2018 11:55am
  - Morrissey
    
    I’m an alpha male, and I’ve never attacked a woman, slapped one, pulled her hair, kicked her or punched her.
    
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    February 14, 2018 12:09pm
    - Swifty
      
      Good grief.
      
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      February 14, 2018 12:24pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      How about abused one?
      Slandered one?
      Falsely represented one?
      
      Ever done anything like that?
      
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      February 14, 2018 12:33pm
      - Jack5
        
        Morrissey Breen at 12.09: “I’m an alpha male.”
        
        As in mountain gorilla groups, Morrissey?
        
        I suspect some of those big alpha males might be gropers, Morrissey.
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:09pm
      - Jack5
        
        Morrissey Breen, Esq., may be the Alpha Male, but meet an Alpha Woman, in a style that a mountain gorilla might recognise …
        
        She’s a Dunedin stalker whose male target blocked six phone numbers and changed his own number, but, from the Otago Daily Times report:
        
        … Laing arrived at the man’s house and “bashed open” the front door after he had asked her to leave.
        
        She barged in and grabbed the man around the neck, pulling him towards her.
        
        The victim managed to slip out of the shirt he was wearing and barricaded himself in his bedroom.
        
        But Laing tried to force her way in.
        
        Eventually, the man took action and pinned her to the ground until police arrived.
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11994345
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:31pm
      - Morrissey
        
        No.
        
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        February 14, 2018 2:45pm
    - softail 1450
      
      morronissey,an alpha male ,?????????????? LOL.
      
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      February 14, 2018 2:26pm
    - softail 1450
      
      are you a shirtlifter morronissey.
      
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      February 14, 2018 2:35pm
    - Harkman
      
      “I’m an alpha male,” No you’re an alpha Ladyboy.
      
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      February 14, 2018 5:18pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Ha ha ha ha ha! That’s an uptick for you, Harkman, you old meanie, you.
        
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        February 14, 2018 9:16pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Hahahaha hahahaha
      
      Fucking Alpha?????
      
      Bitch, you ain’t even close.
      
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      February 14, 2018 7:22pm
  - stigie
    
    Just ask Darren Hughes !~
    
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    February 14, 2018 4:52pm
    - GoVege
      
      Morrissey : my apologies for starting this round of abuse….
      
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      February 14, 2018 5:34pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        I would suggest you merely commented before others GoVege.
        
        Morris and his hypocrisy is getting what he is due.
        
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        February 14, 2018 7:24pm
      - Morrissey
        
        No problems GoVege. You’re a champion in my book.
        
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        February 14, 2018 9:14pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Muslim women aren’t even safe from sexual harassment when on their Haj in the holy city of Mecca.

http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/article/2018/02/13/mosquemetoo-des-musulmanes-denoncent-des-agressions-sexuelles-subies-a-la-mecque_5256308_3218.html
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February 14, 2018 11:45am
- Morrissey
  
  Sounds as dodgy as entering the White House.
  
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  February 14, 2018 11:47am
  - rangitoto
    
    If you visit Mecca – don’t drink the Zamzam water.
    
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    February 14, 2018 12:09pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      The old arsenic poisoning trick, eh?
      https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Drinking_Zamzam_Water_and_its_Health_Risks
      
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      February 14, 2018 12:35pm
    - Jack5
      
      Rangitoto your link shows ZamZam water has been tested, approved, and scientifically proved to be superior to tap or “solar pump” water. The testing authority: the Bangladesh Atomic Energy Commission.
      
      Perhaps NZ could add “nuclear scientist” to the list of approved immigration occupations for Bangladeshis.
      
      On the other hand …
      
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      February 14, 2018 1:35pm
- Manolo
  
  Member of the sexually-repressed mob are unable to control their urges. Allahu akbar!
  
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  February 14, 2018 11:48am
  - Morrissey
    
    I agree. Note how many of Trump’s gang are in our Gropers series. To be precise: Numbers 2, 14, 18, 28, 29, and 30.
    
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    February 14, 2018 11:54am
    - rangitoto
      
      You are going need a dedicated list for Oxfam aid workers by the looks of it.
      
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      February 14, 2018 12:13pm
      - Morrissey
        
        I’m looking into it. Thanks for reminding me, my friend.
        
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        February 14, 2018 12:18pm
- stephieboy
  
  Maggy Wassilieff , nor would I say safe from the POTUS and his cronies on any day .
  
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  February 14, 2018 12:20pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    What’s that got to do with sexual aggression against females in Mecca, stephieboy?
    
    You wouldn’t be trying to distract the reader from the point up for discussion would you?
    
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    February 14, 2018 12:28pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Of course oppose it as you’ve done . However you appear adept at singling out Muslim countries like you seem to have done the same for acid attacks .
      
      Maybe an opportunity for you to send a letter to Riyadh objecting to the this sexist practice . As you possibly have already earlier does so to the White House ?
      
      But the times are a changing ,
      
      http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/the-truth-behind-the-changing-fate-of-women-in-saudi-arabia/news-story/aa88b71968897df309c65a42e618d201
      
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      February 14, 2018 12:38pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        However you appear adept at singling out Muslim countries like you seem to have done the same for acid attacks .
        
        Didn’t you read the Wiki link I posted last night that stated most acid attacks occur in Pakistan & Bangladesh,
        
        Here are the relevant passages:
        
        Bangladesh has the highest reported incidence of acid assault in the world.[14]
        
        According to New York Times reporter Nicholas D. Kristof, acid attacks are at an all-time high in Pakistan and increasing every year. The Pakistani attacks he describes are typically the work of husbands against their wives who have “dishonored them.”[16] Statistics compiled by the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) show that 46 acid attacks occurred in Pakistan during 2004 and decreased with only 33 acid assaults reported for 2007.[7] According to a New York Times article, in 2011 there were 150 acid attacks in Pakistan, up from 65 in 2010.[69] However, estimates by the Human Rights Watch and the HRCP cite the number of acid attack victims to be as high 400–750 per year.
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_throwing
        
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        February 14, 2018 1:07pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy W,
        
        Really ?
        
        From your link
        
        South Asia[edit]
        
        In South Asia, acid attacks have been used as a form of revenge for refusal of sexual advances, proposals of marriage and demands for dowry.[10] Scholars Taru Bahl and M.H. Syed say that land disputes are another leading cause.[12]
        
        Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Cambodia are mentioned .
        
        Why did you omit to mention India and Cambodia ?
        
        Why ?
        
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        February 14, 2018 4:58pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Why did you omit to mention India and Cambodia ?
        
        I didn’t omit them..
        I gave a link to the entire wiki entry today and yesterday.
        
        I highlighted a key point.
        
        It says very little about your comprehension skills that you can’t read a link for yourself and you expect someone else to paraphrase everything for you.
        
        As I have advised you before, take time to read and think about what other people post here, before rushing off an abusive smear trying to score pixie points against them.
        
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        February 14, 2018 5:29pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy W,
        
        “Didn’t you read the Wiki link I posted last night that stated most acid attacks occur in Pakistan & Bangladesh,”
        
        No mention of India or Cambodia
        
        You’re obviously confused . Rest your grey matter .
        
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        February 14, 2018 5:33pm
- Swifty
  
  No surprise.
  
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  February 14, 2018 12:25pm
Digmen1

I kind of like Simon Bridges.
Ex an ex prosecuting lawyer he is very good in parliament.
Dresses well (as opposed to Opcinda)
And is part Maori.
He was also one of the Young Guns on tv breakfast years ago with Jacinda!
He is a good family man, and has no baggage.
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February 14, 2018 11:59am
- Morrissey
  
  Oh I do hope he becomes National leader.
  
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  February 14, 2018 12:08pm
  - Jack5
    
    Morrissey Breen: your endorsement gives the kiss of death to Bridges for many Kiwiblog posters.
    
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    February 14, 2018 1:29pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Really, Jack? I have a very good—some might say unequalled—record of predicting leaders.
      
      https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-31122013/#comment-751510
      
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      February 14, 2018 2:58pm
- lifesgood
  
  But he desperately needs elocution lessons.
  
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  February 14, 2018 1:41pm
- Poppa
  
  All true but I can’t take to him myself. He seems to have that irritating voice which turns me off.
  
  He does like himself quite a lot too
  
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  February 14, 2018 1:59pm
  - Morrissey
    
    He does like himself quite a lot too
    
    I hate that in a guy.
    
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    February 14, 2018 2:59pm
    - sooty
      
      But morri, you do like yourself!
      
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      February 14, 2018 5:01pm
      - Morrissey
        
        https://www.historicmysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Echo-and-Narcissus-copy.jpg
        
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        February 14, 2018 5:07pm
- Inandout
  
  A speech impediment.
  
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  February 14, 2018 8:31pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  No baggage but if he were made of chocolate he’d eat himself.
  
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  February 14, 2018 9:09pm
Morrissey

Scum

Gotta admit that David Jones QC exhibits a great ability to keep a straight face as he mouths some hilarious lines, beginning at the 2:09 mark….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS7v9WMlJUE
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February 14, 2018 12:04pm
Digmen1

Tauranga City Council
I saw in the paper the other day that they want to spend millions on cycle lanes to free up our traffic.
The idiots want to waste out money.
No one wants to cycle to work, its too hilly, too spread out and too dangerous!
Could someone name the councillors that cycle to work now?
Spend that money on wider roads.
Its like the buses, they are always driving around empty.
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February 14, 2018 12:09pm
- kowtow
  
  Same in Dunedin.
  
  Expensive clusterfuck. Never mind rate and taxpayers have very deep pockets.
  
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  February 14, 2018 2:32pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Sexist Wikipedia
http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/archival-activism-the-editors-fighting-wikipedia-s-sexism-problem
Who would have thunk it?

Wonder why all those wiki editors feel threatened by some uppity females?
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February 14, 2018 12:16pm
- Kimbo
  
  But, but, but (to channel stephieboy), it’s important (for some reason) to recall that breitbart are sexist too! 😉
  
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  February 14, 2018 12:19pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Well done, Kimbo.
    
    (Take time to rest, please)
    
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    February 14, 2018 1:09pm
thedavincimode

Well Norris has resigned as Chairman after another $0.5b of blood on the floor. Quite rightly too. The rest of the directors should pack it in as well. Utterly inexcusable.
Heaven only knows what they were using for contract quoting and management reporting. A dart board? Taro cards? Maybe it all went tits up when Paul the Octopus died.
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February 14, 2018 1:15pm
- Poppa
  
  I am not sure that we have seen the last of this either.
  
  There is quite a bit of rotten fish in the place. They have been bullying the market for a long time & the chickens have just come back home
  
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  February 14, 2018 1:57pm
- Swifty
  
  I’ve worked with Ralph – on a few vehicles he needed work on.
  
  Not extensively, but enough, including one-on-ones, to gauge him as a very good operator and an excellent governor and communicator.
  
  This has got me perplexed.
  
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  February 14, 2018 4:49pm
publicwatchdog

DON’T DO IT NZ!

DON’T SIGN THE RESURRECTED TPPA-11!

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Please SIGN and SHARE!

#DontDoItNZ
#ItsOurFuture
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February 14, 2018 1:44pm
- PhilP
  
  If Penny doesn’t like it then it’s gonna be great for NZ!!!!!
  
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  February 14, 2018 2:00pm
  - Swifty
    
    Just like George Costanza – do the opposite!
    
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    February 14, 2018 4:46pm
  - stigie
    
    Just like when the AC auction off the hovel in School Rd. Kingsland.
    It’s gonna be great for NZ!!!!!
    
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    February 14, 2018 5:00pm
Happychappy

http://www.Interest.co.nz/business /13-2-18/RobertsonwantstoseeNZworkerswork400fewerhoursayeartoproducemore.
A very interesting read.
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February 14, 2018 2:03pm
softail 1450

Im still laughing about morronissey proclaiming himself an “alpha male”FFS.??.
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February 14, 2018 2:33pm
- Morrissey
  
  Perhaps you’d like to pop round to Chez Breen some time, softail, and “laugh it up” big time.
  
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  February 14, 2018 3:00pm
- Swifty
  
  I think he just propositioned you softail…..
  
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  February 14, 2018 6:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

While I’ve had to retreat indoors (32C in the shade), I’m sparing a thought for the Inuit/Eskimoes of Northern Canada who have also been warned to stay indoors.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/rankin-inlet-weather-close-school-1.4523409

Looks like the old settled climate change story needs a spot of revision:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/02/13/record-2018-snowfall-continues-increasing-snowfall-trends-showing-un-ipcc-ar5-report-is-flawed/
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February 14, 2018 2:37pm
- KevOB
  
  Their TAR report said we had a chaotic system and they could not predict anything.
  
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  February 14, 2018 3:31pm
- stephieboy
  
  Still accept the Flat earth of Climate change denial ,
  
  ✔
  @realDonaldTrump
  
  The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.
  8:15 AM – Nov 7, 2012d representative. She was gutsy, full of compassion,
  
  Ann Coulter
  ✔
  @AnnCoulter
  
  I don’t believe Hurricane Harvey is God’s punishment for Houston electing a lesbian mayor. But that is more credible than “climate change.”
  https://
  twitter.com/POLITICOMag/st
  atus/902364893940154368
  
  https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/11/10/16627256/conservatives-climate-change-persuasion
  
  You deny that ,more frequent extreme weather events have nothing to do with Climate change ?
  
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  February 14, 2018 5:18pm
  - Ross12
    
    Yes I deny it stephieboy. The “extreme” weather have not increased.
    
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    February 14, 2018 7:53pm
  - KevOB
    
    The IPCC does. It warned in the 5th AR that there would not be enhanced weather events resulting.
    
    Anyway where have the sunspots gone?
    
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    February 14, 2018 10:22pm
JasonJohns

FORBIDDEN HISTORY by John Dudley Aldworth

This is the amazing story of how white, Celtic descendants of Noah fled Middle East war in the time of Queen Esther to sail round the earth to New Zealand. As told by their descendants still living today, they then lived in peace for over 1300 years in this ‘Far Off Land’ until the coming of the cannibal Maori.
Strongly biblical and Christ honouring but backed by archaeological, scientific and genetic evidence, the book is indeed ‘Forbidden History’ because its truth is denied by both Government and education in New Zealand to this day. For political reasons schools still teach Maori were the land’s first settlers when in fact they were latecomers who brought a holocaust of cruelty and cannibalism to a peaceful land.

Only preaching of the gospel of grace by brave missionaries halted the cruel slaughter of 100,000 of the Caucasian settlers and then of 60,000 Maori themselves in inter-tribal warfare. In the upshot New Zealand experienced the greatest per-head-of-population awakening to God seen anywhere in the world since the Apostle Paul. A full 40 per cent of the largely Maori population was converted.

Later chapters unfold the biblical truth that Noah’s descendants twice sailed and mapped the entire post-flood earth and explains how their descendants subsequently took a tradition of peace, trade and belief in God to other side of the world.

Firm historical, archaeological and historical evidence is cited to proven the Bible’s chronology and history of the flood and subsequent ice age is correct. And that contrary to evolutionary thinking the post-Flood ancients traded widely between the Middle East, Africa, India and even South America. South American maize, for example, is found painted on the walls of the funerary temple of Egypt’s Queen Hatshepsut built in 1400BC.

An exciting, easily read quality book with over 60 colour illustrations of artefacts, shipwrecks, carvings

‘Forbidden History’ can be purchased direct from the author for NZ$40 plus shipping (e.g. NZ$16.95 or US$11.7 to the US). Contact details: email: john.aldworth@hotmail.com address: 17 Clark Place, Hillcrest, Hamilton 3216, New Zealand phone: +64 7856 4655.

Read more: https://www.dayofchristmnistries.com/news/forbidden-history-by-john-dudley-aldworth/
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February 14, 2018 3:03pm
- Morrissey
  
  A sad, uneducated loon. Has Mr Aldworth thought of joining the ACT Party?
  
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  February 14, 2018 3:20pm
- Kimbo
  
  Yes, JasonJohns, but what does this august, scholarly and considered tome have to say about the cover-up of the flat earth cosmology of the Book of Genesis? Biblical literalists demand to know! ?
  
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  February 14, 2018 3:22pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Jason,
  
  Wait until after work on a Friday (when we are on the second glass of cheap Australian shiraz) before posting this kind of thing.
  
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  February 14, 2018 3:25pm
Tauhei Notts

We got a sudden down pour of rain. I checked the thermometer. Twenty seven degrees of high humidity! It is stifling.
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February 14, 2018 3:36pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  All I need is 29 degrees and 95% humidity, plus the sound of frogs croaking in the rice paddies, and I could close my eyes and imagine myself in the back blocks of Shizuoka Prefecture again.
  
  Beer really tastes good under these conditions.
  
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  February 14, 2018 5:09pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Your real name isn’t Entwhistle by any chance old chap? 🙂
    
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    February 14, 2018 6:43pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Who he?
      
      Actually, I was thinking of images like these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_i9RER84a8
      
      The beer really does taste better on those humid summer evenings.
      
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      February 14, 2018 7:36pm
Ross12

The US political scene is like a long running soap opera.
“Leaker” Schiff jumps up and down because his memo was not released. The President sent it back to him, after receiving legal advice, to remove sources and methods of the intelligence agencies and then return it so it can be released.
Now Schiff effectively says he doesn’t want it released –ie. his little game backfired so it isn’t worth it
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/373742-schiff-were-not-going-to-revise-democratic-memo
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February 14, 2018 4:14pm
Maggy Wassilieff

What’s Kelvin Davis playing at?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/101433659/charter-school-lays-complaint-with-ministry-of-education-about-kelvin-davis
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February 14, 2018 4:20pm
- Ross12
  
  I think the answer Maggy, is he is showing how conflicted his interests are and how incompetent the Government is in controlling this issue. The answers from the PM in the article are bizarre, to put it politely.
  I am pleasantly surprised the media are covering it.
  
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  February 14, 2018 5:40pm
  - Piniwi
    
    @Ross12 not handling it well in OQT today and so badly the Speaker had to enumerate the important “words” in the question that were in fact the question.
    However it did not bode so well for the Speaker who unwittingly added a word to the primary question. These are the seemingly funny things that do arise while seeming insignificant do serve to “render them a sunder.” They also can be revisited when they covered by “standing by their answers/statements.”
    
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    February 15, 2018 1:07am
- ex-golfer
  
  Bizarrely – the Govts line during question time today is now that the opposition is “scaremongering”.
  
  After nine long years in opposition you would think that Labour are aware of the job of an opposition!
  
  David, Hipkins and Jackson are looking very weak on this issue – as is the PM. National need to maintain the heat on this issue.
  
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  February 14, 2018 7:18pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”David, Hipkins and Jackson are looking very weak on this issue – as is the PM”…..
    
    I confidently predict that a scan showing that the Princess is expecting twins will be released tomorrow.
    
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    February 14, 2018 7:23pm
  - Piniwi
    
    @ex-golfer it is the new response to too much pressure as well as owning what they say now they are in Government. The 9 years in opposition did not see any maturity gained in that roll and they are struggling to stop being a Government in waiting. Tomorrow might be even better as the old drunk will be answering on behalf of the PM.
    
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    February 15, 2018 1:13am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Wow… how fucking incompetent are these people?
  
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  February 14, 2018 7:38pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  It would only be a conflict of interest if National did it.
  This cobbled together bunch of misfits think they can do whatever they like.
  
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  February 14, 2018 9:23pm
  - Piniwi
    
    @Shaun the Sheep we have yet hear more of the conflict of interest that Sag(e) has been accused of.
    
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    February 15, 2018 1:16am
Manolo

Fake news is the business of the failed The Guardian:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/bill-and-melinda-gates-trump-budget-could-lead-to-millions-of-global-deaths/ar-BBJ6hyU
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February 14, 2018 4:45pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo , Fake news ? Im not sure of you point . Do you approve of vast foreign aid funding cuts ? Do you also for example approve out the Presidents zeroing out funding for womens health and contraception ?
  
  This also ?
  
  “The Gateses’ liberal outlook is generally focused on the global alleviation of poverty and disease.”
  
  Please clarify ?
  
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  February 14, 2018 5:07pm
MH

where do all the old tents and relief material go after the event in say Tonga and Fiji? Are they thrown away ? Maybe its time China, japan NZ, Aussie and France and the US established a harbour facility for a multi national coastguard vessel or a Japanese sponsored flying boat base somewhere in one of the main island nations in the pacific. What about a strong warehouse full of gear for civil defence purposes to be built as a permanent base for SAR. How long did it take to even initiate the search for survivors from the overloaded ferry in Kiribati ? A three day trip, no communications ?
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February 14, 2018 5:05pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA HIA CORE LOGIC: The cost of residential land in Australia is going through the roof … David Scutt … Business Insider

The cost of residential land in Australia is going through the roof | Business Insider

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/housing-affordability-australia-residential-land-prices-2018-2

Vacant residential land prices are soaring in Australia, creating a mammoth headache for the nation’s housing housing affordability crisis.

According to latest HIA-CoreLogic Residential Land Report, the median vacant residential lot price surged by 6.5% in the September quarter of last year, hitting $267,368, up 10.9% on a year earlier.

Median prices in capital cities jumped by 7.8% during the quarter, far outpacing growth of 2.7% in regional areas.

Over the year, capital city prices ballooned to a record high of $313,74, up 12.8% over the year. … read more via hyperlink above …

Land prices hit record high amid supply shortfall across the country … news com au

http://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/brisbane-qld/land-prices-hit-record-high-amid-supply-shortfall-across-the-country/news-story/3eee8bca2151f532e6cdf66c41df592d

Demographia In The News

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=demographia&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF4d71waTZAhWQq5QKHb8UBPcQ_AUICigB&biw=469&bih=403
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February 14, 2018 5:13pm
Johnboy

I always thought this syndrome was nonsense.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11994489
Then I recalled Jim Bolger after he went to Washington! 🙂
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February 14, 2018 5:21pm
- nasska
  
  It’s Valentines Day! Instead of worrying about accents you should be following the trail of rose petals & scented candles leading down the race to where Blossom in her thin summer fleece waits expectantly.
  
  Get your shit together man! 🙂
  
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  February 14, 2018 6:31pm
  - Johnboy
    
    I sent her to the works yesterday nasska…..God I feel like such a bastard!
    Still the mint’s growing well so I suspect I’ll get to love her at least another ten times or so! 🙂
    
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    February 14, 2018 6:37pm
nasska

It’s safe to assume that more pubes are shaved on February 13th than any other day of the year.
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February 14, 2018 6:44pm
- Johnboy
  
  I have heard that canned whipped cream and glace cherry sales enjoy a huge hike in the week before nasska! 🙂
  
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  February 14, 2018 6:48pm
  - nasska
    
    I’ve often wondered what mine would look like covered in whipped cream with half a dozen glace cherries tastefully arranged around the bellend JB. 🙂
    
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    February 14, 2018 6:54pm
    - Johnboy
      
      I’m certain it would look wonderful old chap. You could name it “Nasska’s Column” perhaps? 🙂
      
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      February 14, 2018 7:24pm
    - stigie
      
      Tastefully done could look quite attractive Nasska.
      Please send photo so you can be rated by the Kiwiblog community..?
      
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      February 14, 2018 7:30pm
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      That is an interesting marketing ploy for Tatua.
      
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      February 14, 2018 7:45pm
Manolo

Up to his eyeballs in it:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/14/susan-rices-inauguration-day-email-raises-new-questions-for-comey.html
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