General Debate 13 February 2018

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sooty

Secret Cindy, what you going to back flip on today?
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February 13, 2018 8:01am
- hullkiwi
  
  We have a back flip coming, and it is a Twitford/Cindy/Parker special:
  
  All about foreign investors/developers…seems someone is having second thoughts about the repercussions of shutting foreign investment money out….
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11992814
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:07am
starboard

Charter schools…Arderns got that one seriously wrong.
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February 13, 2018 8:03am
- Swifty
  
  Hmmmm, to choose to support her paymaster unions or NZ parents and children.
  
  What will she choose? Place your bets!
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:06am
  - kowtow
    
    And who has the media chosen?
    
    If this was evil old white male capitalist National closing special schools full of Maoris and other minority interests there’d be blood on the front pages and hyperventilating at every broadcast.
    
    As it stands , they still seem to be pushing the Labour line about a housing crisis.
    
    A crisis created by a refusal to free up land for development and the flooding of this fair land with third worlders , something both parties are guilty of.
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:20am
    - Paulus
      
      Remember who wrote the report on housing – all three are activists so what do you expect – facts ? no way.
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:26am
      - alloytoo
        
        A couple living with their parents while saving for a house are not homeless, nor are they part of a crisis to be fixed.
        
        On the contrary they are part of the solution.
        
        Until they stop inflating homeless stats with people like that, they will continue to lack credibility.
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:38am
  - Paulus
    
    Unions, who own her !
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:24am
    - flipper
      
      EQUAAAABBB (whatever) –
      A “tell me what you want me to find/say” Labour party shill !
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:38am
      - oldpark
        
        He is known as Shambles. Wonder how NZ survived before he turned up. Just another Lie-bour/Green/ Peters Party sycophant..
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:19am
      - Harkman
        
        This guy has spouted nonsense for years but he hasn’t been criticised because he ticks numerous boxes, and nobody wants to be labeled a racist.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:23am
- GazzaW
  
  Will the unions allow a backdown? Hipkins has painted Labour into a corner over this issue and it could be the first real test of COL unity. It is now receiving significant media coverage and the impetus has swung right behind charter schools. Kiwis love the underdog and the perception is that the Government is very successfully filling the role of bully. How prepared are NZF and the Greens to take the heat?
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:17am
  - starboard
    
    The wheels on the Jacinder express seem to be coming a little bit loose. Oh dear, what a shame.
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:35am
- Paulus
  
  I do not think that she will disobey the Unions – what we will see is fluster of well meaning words saying sweet fa and they will continue below the belt to carry out the Union wishes.
  This women is not for turning !!!!!
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:24am
  - pdm
    
    `This women is not for turning !!!!!’
    
    Unless her Union Masters dictate otherwise!!
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:48am
  - freethinker
    
    But she does bend over for drunken dwarfs.
    
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    February 13, 2018 1:14pm
    - KiWombat
      
      I’ll bet her sphincter has has a bit of a workout from the dwarf.
      Perhaps she can manage a prolapse to match !!
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:21pm
- Simon
  
  John Ardern will govern almost exactly like the hated neolibs except Princess is a womanchild and with the rest of her fuckups will fuck it up.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:42am
- oldgolfer
  
  Too true, Starboard.
  This is one story that is unlikely to go away.
  It might have been different if that charter schools were failing, but the reverse seems to be the case.
  Chippy/Cindy look heavy-handed.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:46am
Tarquin North

I see W.O is blaming Bill English for the hit job on Bishop. Will he ever grow up?
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February 13, 2018 8:04am
- holysheet
  
  Who cares what the bloated prick says. Is he relevant anymore?
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:05am
  - Swifty
    
    The best times are long gone.
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:16am
  - G152
    
    Its all ads and subscriptions over there.
    The word ‘floundering’ and the term ‘cast on a weather shore’ come to mind
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:40am
  - Paulus
    
    No, sad that WO doesn’t listen to his wife SB- she puts forward intelligent thoughts.
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:16am
- stigie
  
  Watched Ardern on the AM Show this morning, she came on with a very sour looking face which reminded me of Helen Klark when she was angry.
  She wasn’t that good talking about charter schools but better talking about something easier like the cyclone in Tonga.
  My observation she was not coping !~
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:07am
  - Lance
    
    Her back peddling, double speak and obfuscating on Hosking over the Charter Schools issue this morning was laughable.
    She knows this is toxic and is dismayed the pixie dust has lost its effect.
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:12am
    - sooty
      
      She did not say much about the storm havoc at christmas in nz, nor the Labour party.
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:19am
      - oldgolfer
        
        Steady on; they were on holiday.
        
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        February 13, 2018 8:48am
      - cmm
        
        oldgolfer: She wasn’t on holiday last week. She was rubbing noses in Northland.
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:19am
      - sooty
        
        You mean looking for a tree to bury the placenta.
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:30am
    - VicParking
      
      She has been so lucky that the MSM have so far treated her with kid cloves. If the pressure gets to great she will go on {Preggy} light duties and return to photo shots a schools and Day Care facilities.
      Just look at Parliament Question time. If difficult questions appear on the order paper the weak Ministers disappear and the senior Union men on the front bench answer for them. The other week there were a couple of difficult questions for Jacinda so she ran to the South Island leaving Winny to joke his way through them. Question time today should be interesting!!
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:58am
      - Gabby
        
        Speaker Carsehole sagely ruled that ministers didn’t have to answer questions.
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:24am
    - backster
      
      She fluffed around to Mike on why Marks, Little, and a National man were touring round visiting the troops in the middle East, but we had to wait for the 10am news to find out that it was to support the age old allegations of Nicky Hager and Stephenson concerning the alleged killing of innocents by the SAS.
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:57am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Tonga, is a sad situation. The govt has pledged $750k. Pity they haven’t got some Manus Island refugees, they might have got $3m.
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:12am
- Muttonbird
  
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  But Mr Duplicity-Allan is saying it’s Labour because of Charter schools. The RWNJs can’t even get their story straight – no wonder they are in opposition, the incompetent fools.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:09am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Speaking of such, can’t wait for the bi-election up north when the honourable Kelvin Davis keeps his word and resigns. How do you think it will go Muttonbird?
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:13am
    - Muttonbird
      
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      Why is Kelvin Davis resigning again?
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:17am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        “Why is Kelvin Davis resigning again?”
        
        God, you’re even more of an ignoramus than I thought you were if you don’t know the answer to that.
        
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        February 13, 2018 8:21am
  - srylands
    
    What on earth is a RWNJ?
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:16am
    - Muttonbird
      
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      Look in the mirror. A real nutty one will be staring back.
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:17am
      - sooty
        
        Another one of the leftie alphabet soup.
        
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        February 13, 2018 8:20am
      - sam green
        
        Like SJW?
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:22am
      - 4077th
        
        Looks to me like you are still upset about Sir Bob’s story about you?
        
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        February 13, 2018 12:23pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      RWNJ = right wing nut job
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:20am
      - holysheet
        
        At least us RW’s have got nuts, unlike the lefty nutless wonders. The greens and liabore are flooded with them.
        
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        February 13, 2018 8:25am
      - stigie
        
        LWSFNJ=left wing snowflake nut job
        
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        February 13, 2018 8:28am
      - Simon
        
        Nut job. The Green MPs dont have one bollock to spare between them.
        
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        February 13, 2018 8:45am
      - kowtow
        
        VRWC
        
        H. Clinton’s contribution.
        
        Vast right wing conspiracy.
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:01am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        At least us RW’s have got nuts, unlike the lefty nutless wonders.
        
        Oh, that’s unfair. James Shaw has testicles, but when last seen, they were in a jar in Metiria Turei’s office. Maybe she’s given them to Golriz.
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:32am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Who cares srylands. We know mb is attempting to insult us with his acronym. Haha, a swing and a miss for him. ?
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:35am
    - Duxton
      
      “Regularly W…s Near Jacinda” (aka Clark Gayford)
      
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      February 13, 2018 2:03pm
- peterwn
  
  What is interesting is that journos are breaking ranks over this. Two journos have come out and accused the Labour Party of a ‘hit job’. They may not have the hard evidence but then the journo who originally broke it was working on pretty flimsy evidence.
  If WO’s allegation was true it would blow the National Party apart. If there was utu, it would have shown up in the list rankings for the last election. In particular if Chris did not win Hutt South he would have easily been a list MP anyway.
  About time that WO (and for that matter Bryce Edwards and others) stopped pulling stories about Bill English out of his arse.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:18am
  - lifesgood
    
    WO is getting dangerously close to yet another court case. I hope he does step over the line and then…gone burgers! He constantly whinges about his depression and how hard it all is but he certainly does nothing to help himself.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:23am
- flipper
  
  No !
  Still looking back to events of 20 years ago mixing up English with Boag and Fay Richwhite et al..
  and..
  It is interesting that Soper has come out this morning in support of HDPA and Bishop. He does not drink the Hooton-WOBH Kool-Aid.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:23am
  - sooty
    
    He would be crazy not to support the wife, even if it upsets the fools.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:34am
  - Piniwi
    
    @flipper think might just be HDPA borrowed old WP big NO and added a ribbon for bedroom use.
    
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    February 13, 2018 3:02pm
- Biscuit
  
  Whale Oil In Synopsis:
  
  1. Rant against that evil Bill English (well, really, any Nat in authority who told WO where to get off a few years back)
  2. Praise for that saintly Judith Collins
  3. ‘Has your sub expired? Need help?’
  4. The occasional lucid piece from SB
  
  Repeat.
  
  Ad infinitum.
  
  Or is that ad nauseum?
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:43am
  - Swifty
    
    You forget the pus and cyst videos.
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:45am
    - Colville
      
      and the begging bowl being pushed under your nose.
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:00am
  - lifesgood
    
    And if anyone dares to challenge him on any of his rants….banned!
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:24am
    - Chris R
      
      Slater is not a moderator. He doesn’t undertake any banning. The moderation code was the play-thing of the autocratic Pete Belt and a few others. I am eligible to post there again after being banned for a reason yet to be identified; but I can’t be bothered as the site has become depressingly inward looking and has lost what was once genuine spark. A sad demise but a fatal one. (A bright note is that Bob Jones has agreed to write there in future.)
      
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      February 13, 2018 11:35am
  - dime
    
    the only thing hes good for is exposing losers who go to the press claiming poverty, bad landlords etc
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:26am
  - 4077th
    
    All or at least for the most part thanks to the Chimp. Seems they will never recover from his petty megalomania even after his departure. Pity..
    
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    February 13, 2018 12:27pm
- Gabby
  
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  Where is Jason Ede these days Tarkie?
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:43am
  - sam green
    
    He’s being looked after by the brethren- don’t you worry.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:24am
  - peterwn
    
    He works for the Property Institute of NZ. Unlike many left wing losers, he is very employable. No need to drive buses or run cafes paying less than the Waldegrave living wage.
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:14am
- Harkman
  
  Most (older) rural folks thought that (“this”) Whale Oil (“fella”) was trying to sabotage National at the 2014 election. Seems he is still at it.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:03am
  - Flash
    
    He’ll have to change his attack now that the loathed Bill English has gone.
    
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    February 13, 2018 2:46pm
- Ambergris
  
  Seems to me W.O. isn’t just blaming English for the hit job on Bishop but for most of the hit jobs which have taken place in history including corngate, hollow men, dirty politics and Winston’s superannuation leak.
  
  Whenever W.O. claims to have inside knowledge I just think back to what he was saying before the election, what actually happened, and how he has since tried to re-write what he claimed he was saying prior to the election!
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:08am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I wonder if anyone read those pre-election musings, voted for NZF to “send a message to National”, and now wishes they hadn’t.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:46am
  - Im Right
    
    Indeed Ambergris, Slater didn’t help himself on 2 fronts:
    1: Having someone moderating who just banned posters at a whim, for using bad language or off topic etc etc
    2: Slater himself posting numerous times, before the election, with ‘Wait till the full story emerges’ or ‘I have the proof and will reveal it soon…’ the type of promises that had the WO community salivating about some big scandal that will blow Labour or Greens out of the water, needless to say nothing eventuated, all he was doing was bashing English and praising Winnie.
    If Kiwiblog does not take over from WO in the popularity poll that comes out each year then it’s only a matter of time as he and the site is doomed as it currently stands.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:48am
    - Digmen1
      
      According to my data since December KB has gone down in views and WO has gone up.
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:22am
  - peterwn
    
    In 2014 WO and Pete Belt (WO’s former IT guru and chief moderator) claimed that the clinching evidence on Kim DotCom was just around the corner. It still has not surfaced.
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:17am
    - 4077th
      
      “Guru”…SNORT..The same “guru” that left the keys in the front door for Rawshark? Then took weeks to figure out what cloudflare was and how to use it..lol..”Guru”..funny as fuck..wiping the coffee off my lappy screen as we speak 🙂
      
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      February 13, 2018 12:32pm
      - peterwn
        
        In fairness to WO at the time they would not have seen the need for ‘Fort Knox’ type security. Nowadays the most innocuous WordPress based web sites have to be careful and even they get caught. For example it was recently found that if intruders got one key they could break into neighbours’ sites (ie on the same host if the host was not fully secure).
        
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        February 13, 2018 2:00pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Indeed. He obviously hasn’t been talking to Barry Soper then:
  
  The vilification of Bishop is sick, mainly by those with warped minds, and is obviously politically motivated, curiously coming at a time when Labour was on the ropes over its unfathomable closure of charter schools!
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11993090
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:12am
Digmen1

I don’t think Charter schools are out of the woods yet.

But her squirming last night at the press conference, shows that pressure does work!
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February 13, 2018 8:05am
- holysheet
  
  Yeah but Cindy is the mother of the child of the nation. We cannot keep up this barrage of questions now she will be closer to the big day.
  You nasty old white men cannot pick on her.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:09am
  - Tarquin North
    
    I don’t think it really matters what the COL do next. The fact that Chippie has introduced legislation to get rid of charter schools is the ultimate smoking gun that can’t be denied no matter how fast they back peddle. Somebody gave somebody some very bad advice.
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:43am
    - Gabby
      
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      What’s Simon Lush up to these days Tarkie? Speaking of bad advice.
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:19am
      - Tarquin North
        
        If I want bad advice I’ll look for Matt McCarten.
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:52am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        Hughesy back from his rufie tour of Europe yet Flabby?
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:38am
  - Fletch
    
    Yeah but Cindy is the mother of the child of the nation.
    
    Maybe after she has had the baby they will train a webcam on it so that people can see what it’s up to at any time of the day, and they will let schoolkids name it.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:48am
    - backster
      
      “they will let schoolkids name it.”……Too late it has been named Waru or number 8 if you speak English.
      
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      February 13, 2018 11:06am
    - rangitoto
      
      Baby McBabyface
      
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      February 13, 2018 11:11am
      - axeman
        
        Horsey McHorseface?
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:20pm
- Ross12
  
  But when you have their own PR machine ( aka NZ Herald) printing this then I think the Government are on the ropes
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11992727
  
  I think Hipkins would be sacked from Cabinet if Ardern had any leadership ability –but we know that will not happen.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:05am
  - cmm
    
    And Kelvin Davis would walk the floor if he had any balls.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:24am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Willie Jackson, Charter School owner and good union flunky believes he can work both sides of the fence.
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:32am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Jackson, Davis and Peeni Henare are holding a media conference at midday. It’s probably an attempt by Labour’s Maori MP’s to paint themselves as the heroes in this situation, convincing Hipkins not to close the Partnership Schools.
        
        I’m not buying that for a minute. Labour has caved in to public pressure, and anything that follows now is an arse-covering exercise.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:36am
      - cmm
        
        KS: Having the Maori MPs looking like they stared down the Pakeha is surely a broken idea for the long haul.
        
        There are not that many Maori and making a Maori vs Pakeha issue within Labour surely will cost them Pakeha votes than any gain in Maori votes.
        
        Further, Maori have abysmal voting stats. Not worth chasing them at the cost of putting Pakeha offside.
        
        Heck, even having the Maori interests stare down the union interests is just going to cause more friction.
        
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        February 13, 2018 4:25pm
  - lastmanstanding
    
    The citizens are beginning to see the Unionisation flowing from their support of and election of Labour.
    The older citizens are thinking back to the 70s and early 80s and dont want to go there.
    
    Citizens under 45 years dont remember those days so need reminding of the chaos that ensured when the Unions ran the country not the Government of the day.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:52am
    - cmm
      
      “Citizens under 45 ” Including our First Mum.
      
      That’s why you need slightly older people in charge. Stroppy teenagers lack wisdom.
      
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      February 13, 2018 4:26pm
- peterwn
  
  It is getting near the time when the heat needs to go on Tracey Martin as well as she is ‘fixed’ with an anti Charter School attitude for some reason. I do not know what Winston thinks about Charter Schools (I would have thought that he would support them). Driving a wedge there would be useful.
  
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  February 13, 2018 2:05pm
Chuck Bird

It would be very interesting if a National MP put a private members bill in the ballot to repeal the anti-smacking law. It would drive a wedge between NZF and the Greens.

‘The law is too confusing’ – Family First call for anti-smacking law review

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/law-too-confusing-family-first-call-anti-smacking-review
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February 13, 2018 8:07am
- Gabby
  
  After 9 years of doing nothing chuckles?
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:20am
- sam green
  
  Could you tell us Chuck Bird – what does the legislation actually say ( not all of it – just the changes from the previous legislation) and what you would want those changes to be changed to?
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:26am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    No, I cannot be bothered responding to you.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:34am
    - G152
      
      Yet you did. Not a very promising start to the day
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:46am
  - sam green
    
    Here you go then ….
    
    “Prior to the amendment bill, Section 59 read as follows:
    
    59 Domestic discipline
    (1) Every parent of a child and, subject to subsection (3), every person in the place of the parent of a child is justified in using force by way of correction towards the child, if the force used is reasonable in the circumstances.
    (2) The reasonableness of the force used is a question of fact.
    (3) Nothing in subsection (1) justifies the use of force towards a child in contravention of section 139A of the Education Act 1989.
    
    Section 139A of the Education Act 1989 is the enactment criminalising school corporal punishment, so the third clause prohibited teacher-parents from using force on their own children if it could be interpreted as school corporal punishment.
    
    Section 59 now reads as follows:[4]
    
    59 Parental control
    (1) Every parent of a child and every person in the place of a parent of the child is justified in using force if the force used is reasonable in the circumstances and is for the purpose of—
    
    (a) preventing or minimising harm to the child or another person; or
    (b) preventing the child from engaging or continuing to engage in conduct that amounts to a criminal offence; or
    (c) preventing the child from engaging or continuing to engage in offensive or disruptive behaviour; or
    (d) performing the normal daily tasks that are incidental to good care and parenting.
    (2) Nothing in subsection (1) or in any rule of common law justifies the use of force for the purpose of correction.
    (3) Subsection (2) prevails over subsection (1).
    (4) To avoid doubt, it is affirmed that the Police have the discretion not to prosecute complaints against a parent of a child or person in the place of a parent of a child in relation to an offence involving the use of force against a child, where the offence is considered to be so inconsequential that there is no public interest in proceeding with a prosecution.”
    
    How would you want it changed?
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:40am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Okay I will respond since you appear to want a serious debate.
      
      I would be happy with one of two options.
      
      Firstly, put things back how they were.
      
      Secondly, define reasonable force as was proposed by Borrows and Boscawen.
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:56am
      - sam green
        
        In the first place – Why did you call it the “anti smacking law”?
        
        Second – why waste the time to change it back?
        
        Seems reasonable to define reasonable however.
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:47am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Sam, have looked at the video I linked to?
        
        Bob McCoskrie answers your questions better than I can.
        
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        February 13, 2018 12:29pm
Salacious Crumb

Well well well. Oxfam not so holy as they would have you believe. This quote sums them up superbly:

“This illuminates a vital point. It is not aid that will transform the living standards of those in the most impoverished nations, but the elimination of corruption and the opening of trade with the developed world. In other words, full participation in the market economy.
It is precisely this which has already lifted billions out of poverty.
But that is the opposite of Oxfam’s philosophy. In recent years it has delivered a starkly anti-capitalist message, suggesting that all that is required is for more tax to be paid by high-earning people in this country … to be given to Oxfam to spend.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5379183/Dominic-Lawson-Oxfam-Haiti-prostitute-scandal.html
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February 13, 2018 8:07am
- Digmen1
  
  Their staff have “needs”
  So long as it was their own money and the girls were legal age and willing.
  
  I’d be more worried about them catching something nasty!
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:37am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It’s sexual exploitation of young vulnerable women, girls and boys.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/12/the-oxfam-scandal-shows-colonialism-is-alive-and-well
    I’d be more worried about them catching something nasty!
    If Haiti is anything to go by, it’s the Aid workers that deliver deadly diseases.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:11am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Maggy Wassikief and coy , before banging on the keyboard about sex abuse in aid agencies its worthwhile recalling that it is also common in other institutions . The Catholic Church is well known but also amongst one of the President important constituency , namely Evangelical Christians ,
      
      “ Commentary: The larger problem of sexual abuse in evangelical circles “
      
      “We need to talk about the segment of American culture that probably doesn’t think the allegations against Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore are particularly damning, the segment that will blanch at only two accusations in the Washington Post expose: He pursued a 14-year-old-girl without first getting her parents’ permission, and he initiated sexual contact outside of marriage. That segment is evangelicalism. In that world, which Moore travels in and I grew up in, 14-year-old girls courting adult men isn’t uncommon….”
      
      http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-evangelical-roy-moore-girls-1115-20171114-story.html
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:39am
      - Northland Wahine
        
        “Banging on the keyboard about sex abuse” Stephie… not the best choice of words.
        
        And pointing out the same fault in another organisation, negates the damage done in Maggie’s post.
        
        Seriously, these men just need to keep their penises in their pants.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:00am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        And when stephieboy have I ever spoken in favour of abusive institutions?
        
        You will remember it was me that dobbed you in for transgressing the privacy and rights of young women to have coffee in a Mall cafe without details of the size and shape of their mammary glands being splashed around in a public forum.
        
        I abhor abuse, harrassment, slimy innuendo and bullying in any form, by anyone or any institution.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:17am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        Stephieboy; What has that got to do with the article by Dominic Lawson? This is a commentary by someone who has witnessed first hand the largesse and morally corrupt behaviour of a large aid agency that suggests certain income earners be taxed to give more agencies like there’s. Or are you just grandstanding?
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:24am
- oldpark
  
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  Yes not a good look. To think Phil Twyford the flap jaw from the Lie-bour Party is the founding Director of Oxfam NZ. Go figure.Not a good look. Wonder will Stuff check to see if he uses Snapcheck,hmmmm.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:08am
- Paulus
  
  Not only Oxfam but there appear to be many other NGO’s who are in the same boat, now ducking for cover.
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:22am
Dave_1924

Hmmmm…. DPF being targeted now?

https://yournz.org/2018/02/13/farrars-honeymoon-poll-bounce-scam/#comment-251402

Dirty Politics or just presenting a view? Swordfish is who precisely and why are they implying Journos are lazy repeaters?
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February 13, 2018 8:12am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s a very boring read, folks.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:18am
  - sam green
    
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    It’s a dry read, but a fascinating and accurate take on your leader.
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:26am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It merely confirms what we already know – Journalists can’t do their own research; they are just copy and paste agents.
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:33am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    You’re not wrong Maggy. Between Swordfish’s conspiracy theory and Pete George’s “analysis” thereof, I recommend it to insomniacs; you’ll be cured in no time!
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:51am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      yeah, I had a look at P.G.’s analysis of Swordfish’s analysis of Farrar’s analysis of previous polls.
      
      So many electrons sent spinning through the ether, for what end?
      
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      February 13, 2018 11:14am
      - sam green
        
        Swordfish’s analysis of how Farrar operates is spot on though. A good critical analysis of teflon man.
        
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        February 13, 2018 2:29pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        teflon man
        
        I thought that was J.K.’s sobriquet.
        
        Whatever,…
        
        You gotta admit Farrar runs the best political blog in the country.
        That’s why you are here, isn’t it?
        
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        February 13, 2018 3:02pm
      - sam green
        
        I’m here for you Maggy.
        
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        February 13, 2018 4:45pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Ok, then.
        1. RU still rich?
        2. How’s Mrs Green?
        xx Mags
        
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        February 13, 2018 4:53pm
Happychappy

I am not a Barry Soper fan but for him to come out this morning in his column in the Herald and say this was a sick political hit on Chris Bishop and was to lesson the anger about Charter schools by Labour shows that it was Labour that did the hit. This shows germs like Blubber on Whale oil are using this Lie accusing National of doing the hit to hopefully gain more membership to his blog.
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February 13, 2018 8:12am
- Lance
  
  Whaleoil has become a lefty puppet
  That sad shadow of a once great website has gone off into the weeds.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:21am
  - VicParking
    
    He has become deranged about Bill English. He was like this in the past before SB sent him on a holiday.
    The way he is going he will end up like last time with a shit load of civil actions.
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:38am
    - KevOB
      
      I have to question WO’s mental health. WODS? A while ago he was crusading against a retired High Court judge and use of honorific. The matter ceased promptly when the authorities became aware.
      
      WO is neither ferret or bulldog.
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:56am
      - peterwn
        
        Was that in addition to a retired District Court Judge (now deceased) he was hounding? I made many comments in support of the Judge on WO and to my surprise neither Cam or Pete took me down. He kept rabbiting on about the retired Judge not having a practicing certificate when chairing a tribunal, despite my pointing out that it was abundantly clear he did not need one (lawyers appointed to the judiciary send their practicing certificates back to the Law Society).
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:31am
      - KevOB
        
        @peterwn
        Apologies–seem to have reported you.
        
        Judge Barber was being very rudely treated. Cam at times ignores recognised reason. I reported the matter to the appropriate authority and the ill considered postings ceased.
        
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        February 13, 2018 12:41pm
      - freethinker
        
        I thought the problem with “Judge Barber” was that he wasn’t a judge at the time which if so would disqualify him form Chairing the real estate tribunal club which should also have rendered all his prior judgments void. The world is a better place without him.
        
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        February 13, 2018 2:09pm
  - Piniwi
    
    @Lance do you mean gone off onto weed?
    
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    February 13, 2018 3:18pm
- Lance
  
  Muttonbird shakes his tiny fists of rage;
  
  “Duplicity-Allan’s vomit on the radio”
  
  You are such a card.
  Say something else mean and venal about HPDA, it’s hilarious.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:28am
- Happychappy
  
  This coming from a poor excuse for a human being like you muttonhead is a bit rich.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:30am
  - stigie
    
    Is muttonhead splooge ? Just askin !~
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:51am
    - Gabby
      
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      Are stinky, sweaty and sooky all the same snofwake? Enquiring minds want to know!*
      
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      February 13, 2018 8:59am
    - Happychappy
      
      Again yesterday on kiwiblog Muttonhead retreats and on comes SPLOOGE to repeat the same weak drivel. In my opinion they have the same DNA but like all fuckwits how can you tell.
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:33am
    - flipper
      
      Exhibits similarities.
      Like the total absence of intelligence.
      Probably a sub 100 IQ
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:26am
- Gabby
  
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  So chappy you’re buying the crappy deflection by Bazza to protect his New (Wo)Man masters? Sucka.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:46am
  - Lance
    
    Anybody have an English translation of this?
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:03am
    - Gabby
      
      Struggling with the lessons Lants?
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:17am
    - softail 1450
      
      lance ,grubby is an old pisshead,sometimes she makes some sense but not normally.
      Im sure she thinks her twisting words has all on this blog falling over with laughter, i think its just a way of covering for her inability to spell when she’s pissed.
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:52am
- pdm
  
  Soper had to because his young bride had done so a couple of days ago when it first broke.
  
  His rations would have been cut off at home if he failed to comply.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:54am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I hope you meant food rations pdm, because the alternative doesn’t bear thinking about!
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:07am
    - pdm
      
      Sopers bald patch seems to be growing Inv – just saying.
      
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      February 13, 2018 2:10pm
      - softail 1450
        
        pdm,its headboard rash .
        
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        February 13, 2018 2:22pm
  - GazzaW
    
    Bloody hell. All those little blue helpers in the bedside drawer and nowhere to go!
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:14pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Some are saying Duplicity-Allan’s vomit on the radio yesterday morning was an oblique reference to Labour trying to use her to break the Pied Piper of Petone story pre-election. She needs to be unequivocal about it, the gutless wench.
  
  Meet the caring, sensitive face of the political Left. They pretend to take the moral high ground, but in truth (and as the smear job on Bishop shows), they get down and dirty with the best of them.
  
  If sufficient people use the “report” button, DPF will hopefully do something about Muttonbird.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:51am
  - peterwn
    
    No worries, they have enough rope to hang themselves.
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:34am
kowtow

AJ are to the fore of the media anti west race baiting agenda.

A case from Canada , thank God for juries.

‘Spencer argued that Boushie’s death was a “freak accident” that occurred when Stanley responded in a “measured” way to a highly charged and dangerous situation that involved — in Stanley’s mind — strangers driving onto his farm, trying to steal his quad, crashing into his wife’s vehicle and attempting to run down his son.

“Things happen when you create this type of home invasion,…..’

http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-news/gerald-stanley-trial-jury-delivers-not-guilty-verdict-in-murder-of-colten-boushie

The same ,but reported by AJ

‘Boushie, from Red Pheasant Cree Nation, was with friends in August 2016 when he drove onto Stanley’s farm to ask for help with a flat tyre, according to Canadian media. ‘

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/slain-colten-boushie-family-vows-pursue-justice-180210143156167.html
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February 13, 2018 8:15am
oldpark

Wonder will the fake news media outlet known as “Stuff”,put the boot into Phil Twyford as they did to Chris Bishop the National MP .
The Fairfax owned “Stuff” used their trade union News outlets such as Sunday Star Times and Dom Post in attempting to denigrate and smear a very popular MP.Lies ,Rumours and Innuendos were used in the alleged Labour Party hit job.
Now we have the so called Charity called Oxfam facing a massive sex scandal they seem to be in the business of “Poverty and Prostitution”.
What an indictment of such a holier than thou organisation.
To think that Labours anti Chinese sounding names for property purchases Labour MP called Phil Twyford is a founding “”Director of Oxfam” NZ could be used in some more Dirty Politics,as practised by the NZ media infested trade unionists against the National Party.
Wonder will they set out to character assassinate Phil Twyford like the way they attempted to do on Chris Bishop. Yes as much chance as the guy called Peters ever was enjoing with National .Nuff said.
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February 13, 2018 8:19am
- Gabby
  
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  Are you trying to make out that Oxfam NZ are caught up in some sex scandal oldfart? Care to get specific on that?
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:49am
  - Harkman
    
    Can you rule out ‘like’ behaviour?
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:05am
    - Gabby
      
      Does Big Julee do snapchat?
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:15am
marcmywords

The media is reporting on rent rises… Why be surprised they’re going up after market intervention?? Might scare them off further manipulation
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February 13, 2018 8:19am
Poppa

The damage in Tonga sounds rather bad this morning. They have gone through this type of thing before though & will get on with it I am sure.

This is a nasty system & even though it probably will be downgraded before heading our way it will still pack a punch. Latest models place it hitting Taranaki next week
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February 13, 2018 8:21am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  
  Tonga sits in the cyclone belt.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Tropical_cyclones_in_Tonga
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:38am
- MCos
  
  Tonga may have ‘gone through this type of thing before’, but I don’t imagine that’s much consolation.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:06am
  - Ed Snack
    
    No, but it must help that they expect it to happen every so often and thus should be planning for it and how to shelter/protect/recover.
    
    And I hope NZ is generous with assistance in the immediate recovery.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:00am
  - KevOB
    
    It’s not. It’s the season and ruinous. Unfortunately the move to NZ style dwellings has not helped. The very open homes with mat blinds let the wind pressures equalise and were much more tolerant.
    Unfortunately crop damage is going to impact immediate food needs and next years. All small animals are at risk.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:05am
- cmm
  
  I’m sure I’m partly to blame. I normally am, being a white bloke and all.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:29am
  - Crisplion
    
    Partly!? Get it right cmm, we white blokes are *fully* to blame!
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:19am
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NZ Herald editorial: Housing crisis report hardly a revelation – NZ Herald

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11992960

Housing Minister Phil Twyford needs to move out of Opposition mode and start making inroads to the problem he has long called a “crisis”. He used the term again yesterday when publishing the report he commissioned soon after taking up the housing portfolio. … read more via hyperlink above …
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The case to throw off the fiscal straitjacket … Bernard Hickey … Newsroom

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/02/12/88442/the-case-to-throw-off-the-fiscal-straitjacket

The authors of the Government’s own housing stocktake argue it lacks the ambition to truly solve a multi-generational crisis because of a self-imposed debt limit. Bernard Hickey reports. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Note PM Ardern / Housing Minister Twyford section … http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org
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February 13, 2018 8:25am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  There is a danger in over-examining issues such as the housing market, rather than just rolling up sleeves and taking action … David Hargreaves … Interest Co NZ
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/92061/there-danger-over-examining-issues-such-housing-market-rather-just-rolling-sleeves-and
  
  By David Hargreaves
  
  In reading the housing stocktake commissioned by the new Government I was reminded again and again of a very funny skit from an ages-old, largely forgotten, TV programme called The Frost Report. …
  
  … concluding …
  
  … But with or without reports being compiled and more and more information gathered, I think we could all agree that building more houses is good, having a check on immigration is good, trying to do something to make it more affordable to build houses is good, and doing something to improve the lot of renters is good.
  
  The big danger is that simply gathering loads of information like this is just a substitute for the Great New Zealand Form A Committee strategy. Talking is easier than doing. There’s no doubt about that.
  
  Twyford’s been talking big for a few years now. Well, this is his chance.
  
  Solutions please. No more reports. Get on with it.
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  abolition auckland urban limits – Google Search
  
  https://www.google.co.nz/search?source=hp&ei=xrqAWsCUMYqd0gSyq5aICA&q=abolition+auckland+urban+limits&btnK=Google+Search
  
  Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey | Scoop News
  
  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1801/S00070/demographia-international-housing-affordability-survey.htm
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:27am
  - brett68
    
    Twyford doesn’t have a clue what to do and is stalling for time, he’s facing the same roadblocks National hit
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:51am
    - Colville
      
      When you say the same roadblocks you mean lefty council muppets that want to run the planning departments as fiefdoms?
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:04am
    - cmm
      
      Pity for Twyford he can’t get preggers!
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:30am
      - freethinker
        
        If he gets real friendly with Chubby Cheeks they could try for a first.
        
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        February 13, 2018 2:22pm
  - Harkman
    
    You sound like a true Marxist Hugh.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:11am
- Harkman
  
  The only solution is to stop poor people from breeding like rabbits.
  
  Hickey is a complete idiot just like SE. Blowing out the debt when the US is blowing out the debt and the UK & Europe are just about to tighten, will see government bonds spike in New Zealand. Utterly stupid.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:10am
  - GoVege
    
    Theyll never stop breeding like rabbits while a) their excuses for leaders encourage them to, and b) their chauvinist jerks of husbands can get the state to pay for their umpteen kids to multiple wives.
    
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    February 13, 2018 12:40pm
    - softail 1450
      
      govege ,absolutely correct.
      
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      February 13, 2018 2:27pm
kowtow

“Face justice in their home countries” Not a chance , they get a slap with a wet bus ticket back ‘home”.

Set up a military tribunal in Syria , run by the Kurds or better yet the Yazidis, and after a two second hearing shoot the fuckers.

‘The US is urging the UK and other members of the coalition fighting Isil to help deal with the growing number of foreign fighters that are being held by Syrian Democratic Forces partners, saying the militants should be turned over to face justice in their home countries.’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/12/foreign-jihadists-should-face-trial-home-us-tells-britain-beatles/
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February 13, 2018 8:27am
waikatogirl

Aid agency spokesperson on TV3 calling for “full government funding” for Tongan devastated by Cyclone overnight. It means we can build houses and other buildings that are structurally able to stand up better to these weather events.

I guess he was talking of the NZ taxpayers, not the Tongan taxpayers to come to the rescue.
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February 13, 2018 8:27am
- holysheet
  
  Does Tonga have taxpayers?
  I thought all their income is from “donations”
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:34am
  - Digmen1
    
    Most of their people are too obese to work.
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:40am
- Swifty
  
  The Tongan royal family has plenty of dough.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:43am
  - Gabby
    
    But it’s in Auckland sweaty.
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:52am
    - Harkman
      
      It is spelt “sweety.” Though it has been hot lately.
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:13am
      - waikatogirl
        
        As in “zip it sweety” ?
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:38am
      - KiWombat
        
        I saw a bottle of wine called “Sip it sweety” – taking the mickey out of Cinders
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:34am
  - Harkman
    
    “The Tongan royal family has plenty of dough”
    
    I thought that they were just dough?
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:27am
    - G152
      
      You need lots of dough to loaf like them
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:51am
    - GoVege
      
      I heard they used to call the king of Tonga “Mr 50%”…anybody wana guess why? 🙂
      
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      February 13, 2018 12:45pm
      - softail 1450
        
        govege ,the rego on his car here in nz was “1 ton” ,seriously.
        
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        February 13, 2018 2:29pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The Japanese might come on board with some help.
  
  Gee, wonder how their proposed wind towers will stand up to a Category 4/5 cyclone each year.
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/322618/minutes-signed-for-tongatapu-wind-power-generation-plan
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:40am
  - Paulus
    
    China will be there asap with as much money and influence as possible to help the Royal Family.
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:26am
- Jack5
  
  I hope the people of Tonga are on their guard ready for the arrival of staff of those international aid agencies who have been spending aid funds on prostitutes.
  
  They could cause serious inflation of the Tongan paʻanga.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:35pm
  - Jack5
    
    More is coming about Oxfam’s “orgy village” in Haiti.
    
    Perhaps the organisation should be renamed Oxfuck.
    
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:05pm
    - Jack5
      
      Only in the Leftist Guardian would you find accusations that misbehaviour by the trendy-Lefty shaggers of Oxfam is caused by colonialism!
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/12/the-oxfam-scandal-shows-colonialism-is-alive-and-well
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:14pm
Monique Watson

I’m starting off lazy today and copy posting from yesterday as I was the last poster and solved all NZ’s problems while the lazy public servants and hard working retirees had crashed for the night. Hope you enjoyed your night cap and or a good relaxing whatever your habit’s to get you off to sleep:
“The Listener has gone to shite, as has the SST. Happened in 2001. Combo of the Clark government sucking off or getting their tongues up a lot of the journos in the press chamber. Hits happened both on some journos and pollies that made up the former make-up of the House. The young Luvvie phenomenon Instead of employing trained Journos the networks employed twits with some PR experience.

Charters schools are fine. I’ve got one kid destined for a career in the arts and he needs a mixed education. The oldest already rules the roost at Middle School and will Mainstream. If there is a scrap he will fight back and will probably be a DA a one day. He’s a thirteen year old six foot monster and smart with it. I call him Wolverine. Fuck he’s got a mouth on him to match mine already and he’s not afraid to use it to challenge authority figures like teachers if they are just being twatty for the sake of it. A+ in everything. Stanford potential.
All kids need different schooling.

Lastly Labour’s shit housing policy is going to do nothing. This is how it works: The private sector adds to stock by identifying opportunity, adding value and moving on, taking profit but they reinvest and some lucky cunt picks up a relative bargain in an area not already impacted. Or the rental stock increases. And cry me a fucking river about urban sprawl. Beats the shit out of high density ghettoizing. We’d all end up living in Compton and having the lefties bleating about how it’s the rights fault.
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February 13, 2018 8:29am
- Gabby
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Get
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  February 13, 2018 8:54am
- KevOB
  
  Town planners don’t plan they dictate. Without “planning” we have organic development that provides the right mix over time. Even infrastructure gets built, not planned, as it is needed by the developer. Developers do actual planning for reward their livelihoods depend on it.
  
  Too much talk not enough do.
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:13am
CHFR1

An interesting read on our open borders politicians and why they are wrong. http://quillette.com/2018/02/03/open-borders-dangerous-idea/
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February 13, 2018 8:30am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Good comments section, also.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:57am
  - Jack5
    
    It’s interesting that one of the commenters says:”India is ethnically and religiously diverse. Not racially.”
    
    Perhaps a blog lurker can tell us whether there is a racial difference between the dark-skinned southern Indians who speak the Dravidian Tamil language, and lighter skinned northerners who speak Indo-European languages such as Hindi.
    
    Or does that just reveal how flaky the concept of “race” can be.
    
    Careful folks: No such thing as “race”, then “racial discrimination” is no real thing.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:30pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yes, I was rather taken with that comment.
      As a biologist I have an understanding of what a race is — in plant terms I’d probably describe them as varieties/subspecies .
      
      Ethnicity is not a biological concept… as a social construct it seems to encompass group identities such as culture/religion/as well as race.
      
      I don’t think the author of that comment was aware of the various routes of entry and times of entry into the Indian subcontinent of different populations.
      (So not just the Indo-Aryans and Dravidians, but Negrito, Mongoloid, & Caucasian folk).
      
      So if we were to recognise populations of northern Indians (Indo-Aryans) containing a number of genetically determined features (skin colour, head shape) that differentiate them from populations of southern Indians (Dravidians), then we can describe them as distinct races of the Human species.
      
      There will be representatives in each population and within the populations between the two extremes that contain intermediate features.
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:24pm
- Albert_Ross
  
  Who exactly do you have in mind when you say “our open borders politicians” and indeed what do you have in mind when you say “our open borders”?
  
  New Zealand does not have “open borders”. As an immigrant myself, I have experienced the requirements that have to be demonstrated to be met to immigrate here, and they are pretty stringent.
  
  Certainly, some people try to immigrate here illegally. But that’s – well, illegal. Not Government policy.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:11am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The article’s focus is on Northern hemisphere migrations.
    It’s not about NZ’s immigration history or policies.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:51am
  - Jack5
    
    Albert, the student visa rip-off destroys your argument that NZ immigration requirements are “pretty stringent”.
    
    Our immigration system also fails in its piss-weak, liberal-biased Immigration Appeals Tribunal.
    
    I would also fault the NZ system on its bias towards Muslims in accepting refugees, and in its grading of skills of immigrants. Too many immigrants, supposedly with high qualifications, are driving taxis and Ubers, and working in pizza parlours.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:26pm
- stephieboy
  
  CHFR1. living within and close to different diverse communities ( Like Mt Roskill ) I can say multiculturalism and diversity to works .
  
  I’m part of a diverse neighbourhood that consist of Indians , Chinese , Iranians and of course Europeans . It works .
  
  “The best proof is experience ”
  Francis Bacon
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:56am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    Mt Eden isn’t My Roskill you bullshiting sack of shit.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:21am
    - stephieboy
      
      Padreiv Ustoev, a startling admission on your part .
      
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      February 13, 2018 4:20pm
      - Jack5
        
        Stephie X, your Stephiestani troll panel is a living testament to the failure of NZ’s immigration system.
        
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        February 13, 2018 9:28pm
  - softail 1450
    
    streppieboy,can i guess the location? paremoremo.
    
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    February 13, 2018 2:32pm
Gravelroad

If anyone would like to know about Jacinda’s and Clark’s favourite things, you are in luck.
Stuff is running a story today, linked to Valentine’s, about the days of our lives of J and C.
All sorts of serious stories which could be covered in an intelligent and balanced way but we get a list of joyous things such as a bamboo tea whisk, herb cutting scissors and a cat painting.
Sad thing is, there will be lots of luvvies out there who will think this is absolutely splendid and so cute.
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February 13, 2018 8:47am
- Gabby
  
  The bamboo herbal cat tea balances the hard drugs gravelrash. Balance is everything.
  
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  February 13, 2018 8:55am
  - Gravelroad
    
    What hard drugs are these, Gabby?
    Do you take them or are you smearing someone else?
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:59am
  - KevOB
    
    Some herbal teas re-arrange the mind.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:14am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      And bloody raspberry leaf tea nearly caused me to abort my beloved 1st born.
      
      Damn old wives’/midwives’ bullshit.
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:44am
      - Pharmachick
        
        Oh shit – you got caught with that one?!?!
        
        Its total crap.
        
        Sorry Maggie, glad to hear to hear it turned out okay in the end though.
        
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        February 13, 2018 5:31pm
- RF
  
  Christ… quickly pass me a bucket. I can feel my breakfast coming up…………
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:00am
  - Gabby
    
    Did the boss chuck you tainted meat again rf rf?
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:13am
    - softail 1450
      
      grubby ,no its time for your yearly shower grubby.
      
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      February 13, 2018 2:34pm
- waikatogirl
  
  While waiting at the supermarket checkout I noticed the cover photo of one of the mags was Cindy. A very glamorous version done up like Kim Kardashian, not at all like the professional woman PM in her slippers attending a meeting with the Australian foreign minister.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:01am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Funny you should note that, WG.
    My other half has this theory that Jacinda is a Khardashian clone ……..
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:11am
    - holysheet
      
      Caitlan jenner more like it
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:43am
    - freethinker
      
      Cant be her arse is too small, but on the other hand perhaps her teeth compensate?
      
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      February 13, 2018 2:45pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Oh hell, WG
    
    Look if you can’t afford to buy the magazine with our lovely PM on, I’ll donate you a copy I’ve frigged from the Dentist’s waiting room.
    
    In the meantime, enjoy these.
    https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/tags/jacinda-ardern
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:00am
    - stephieboy
      
      And another one of whom the Cindy obsession continues unabated .
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:03am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Good lord stephieboy,
        
        haven’t you bought into the JA personality cult, yet?
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_cult_of_personality
        You will be out of favour with your ~~operators~~ masters.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:30am
      - softail 1450
        
        streppieboy, that old guy in the street that your parents told you to “stay away from”.
        
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        February 13, 2018 2:36pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Thanks so much Maggy. See Cindy can dress up when she chooses. What statement was she making to Julie Bishop when she turned up looking like she’d dragged something on out of the bottom of her wardrobe?
      
      I must be the only woman in NZ who doesn’t buy the womens’ mags. Can’t be bothered with them.
      Good to see you borrow your copies instead of wasting good coin on them.
      
      Tipping down here with a thunderstorm about and it’s very dark still. Hope Gissy is having better weather.
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:41am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I must be the only woman in NZ who doesn’t buy the womens’ mags.
        
        Hahahaha… I don’t think so. I haven’t been into a house where they are bought since my step mother-in-law died over 10 years ago.
        
        Rain is holding off this morning.. muggy as.. lawns are growing again… no drought in Gizzy this season.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:49am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Maggie, not so much that the lawns are growing again it’s more that they won’t bloody STOP growing ! Luckily I have a son who mows them for me, but he’s getting grumpy about doing them again, and the compost heap is growing a bit large.
        
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        February 13, 2018 12:00pm
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      Are you sure that was Jacinda on the cover? I thought it was Suzanne Paul.
      
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      February 13, 2018 12:18pm
  - stephieboy
    
    waikatogirl ,thinking of setting up a fb or Instagram page devoted to Cindy and her Kim Karadashian look a likes ?
    
    The Obsession devoted to Cindy continues .
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:01am
    - waikatogirl
      
      FO Stupid.
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:43am
  - Piniwi
    
    @waikatoirl they have to use file photos of her more so now as she starts to loose her lustre.
    
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    February 13, 2018 3:30pm
- JIV
  
  I tried to comment last night, but I dont think they liked the term narcissist. I only used this term because I thought media whore might not get passed
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:54am
RF

I see there is another ugly mug being prepared for the back benches wall.

Will not require that much artwork as it’s just a set of large teeth. Pick up your sunglasses at the front door.
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February 13, 2018 8:58am
Manolo

Tough times for the home of fake news:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/02/cnn-prepares-for-dozens-of-layoffs
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February 13, 2018 9:01am
- softail 1450
  
  manolo,infowars has more watchers than the fucking idiot anderson (ive still got the broom up my arse) cooper ,cnn are on the way out .
  24hrs a day if you tune into cnn it will either be advertising or trump bashing,no wonder they are bleeding their audience.
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:28am
Manolo

Inmortalising Marie Antoniette:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/12/michelle-obama-official-portrait-reaction/
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February 13, 2018 9:04am
- Gabby
  
  Ponyboy must’ve been done by now manuro.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:11am
- MCos
  
  The next bloke can just sell them one out of his collection.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:13am
waikatogirl

Donald Trumps daughter-in-law has been taken to hospital after being exposed to an unknown white powder when she opened an envelope addressed to her husband, Donald Junior.

SJW strikes at democracy and instead hurts an innocent woman.
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February 13, 2018 9:06am
- Gabby
  
  Or, the Chumps are behind on their protection payments.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:10am
- igm
  
  Typical of the left, they would not have the guts to confront anyone face-to-face, but slither behind the back of an adversary. Reminds me of Mallard.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:15am
  - MCos
    
    These sort of false attacks are not uncommon. One of the more prolific was a guy who sent more than a hundred to abortion clinics in the US.
    People have died from genuine anthrax sent by mail to Democrat senators.
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:36am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yep, and we’d condemn those and anything like it.
      
      Pity the left’s reaction is so different though…
      
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      February 13, 2018 12:03pm
- stephieboy
  
  waikatogirl , there you prepared to jump to conclusions without a shred of evidence . As noted US politicians have received the same with potential serious dire consequences ,
  
  Anthrax panic spreads as top US senator is targeted
  ,
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/16/anthrax.uk
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:10am
Digmen1

No sign of
Ztrev and Stephanistan
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February 13, 2018 9:13am
- Harkman
  
  I was just posting on this (below). Perhaps they are renegotiating a new collective agreement?
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:21am
  - Harkman
    
    Or perhaps Gabby is cheaper?
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:23am
- Prince
  
  They’ve been banned so are sitting at another computer this week.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:29am
Harkman

So less than a month ago SB was bringing up his/her/their 20,000th post, now he/her/they are bringing up 21,000 posts. Potentially 40 posts per day, everyday. This is a leftist spambot. Yet none of the posts are remotely constructive. Labour definitely is paying it/them to post.
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February 13, 2018 9:17am
- waikatogirl
  
  But what good do SB’s posts do? There is no political benefit – how many of us on KB have considered he/they have convinced us to change our minds and vote for the left? Nothing SB says has changed anything one iota.
  
  Liarbor, it’s a waste of money employing your trolls to spread your propaganda. Flat out failure but then it’s not your money you’re spending employing these trolls is it. ?
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:47am
  - Prince
    
    The robots’ posts certainly fill out Kiwi Blog.
    Yesterday, nearly 600 posts on GD.
    It’s the only show in town – must drive Stuff, Standard, WO, and all the other left-wing blogs mad.
    Not surprising though when all the others are fighting over 40% of the audience.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:06am
  - stephieboy
    
    Waikatogirl , you haven’t certainly changed my mind as you’re silly post about Trump’s daughter in law perfectly illustrates .!
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:26am
    - softail 1450
      
      streppieboy, cretinous goat bothering fool.
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:35am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Thanks softail. I couldn’t have put it better myself.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:45am
      - sooty
        
        Lots of posts and thousands of down ticks.
        
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        February 13, 2018 4:47pm
- stephieboy
  
  Harkam , far behind your esteemed Trumpeter colleague , Manolo . Some 27 000.
  
  Ok with you !
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:13am
  - Harkman
    
    Manolo doesn’t do 40 per day essentially abusing people.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:33am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  If stephieboy’s intellectual effort is representative of young/old Labour, then they are in bigger trouble than we imagined.
  
  He seems to be oblivious to his daily blunders.
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:37am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    There’s an oxymoron in your first sentence Maggy…
    
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    February 13, 2018 5:28pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Gosh, how did that manage to slip in?
      
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      February 13, 2018 5:40pm
dime

if anyone thought the MSM werent giant heaps of shit..

they just have to look at the fawning over the NK fat dictators murderous sister.

what in the actual fuck??

the left media are batshit crazy.

the bitch is in charge of the propoganda dept in NK! the job her brother had before becoming chief pile of shit.

hundreds of thousands of people starving in NK.

the olympic team turned p on a boat and the crew asked for free fel so they could get home.

the country is starving. cruel. you cant escape.

but the media are saying shes lovely.
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February 13, 2018 9:32am
- Gravelroad
  
  Yep, CNN is idolising a person who not only heads up a highly punitive propaganda outfit, but is also part of a regime working like hell to develop missiles to launch from NK to land in mid USA!
  Just so long as a missile doesn’t hit the Hollywood M.A.S.H set, eh.
  The USKorean War vets must be scratching what’s left of their heads.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:42am
- Prince
  
  It’s quite simple.
  Trump is against North Korea.
  Your enemy’s enemy is your friend.
  So to the media, North Korea is a friend and ally.
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:00am
- stephieboy
  
  dime ,
  
  And VP Mike Pence sat next to Kim Jon Un’s sister ,
  
  “ Mike Pence sat just feet away from Kim Jong Un’s sister at the Olympics opening ceremony”
  
  https://www.vox.com/2018/2/9/16994596/pence-olympics-kim-north-korea-opening-ceremony
  
  LOL
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:18am
  - softail 1450
    
    streppieboy,, fricking maniac nutter.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:21am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Pence refused to acknowledge Kim Jong Un’s sister.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:46am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      As usual, stephieboy forgot to read the article.
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:53am
      - Swifty
        
        His judgement has been apalling lately.
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:29am
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy W, it is you who needs to take look The fact that the VP sat next to the sister speaks volumes . Furthermore it is not known whether they actually exchanged pleasantries if you yourself “ read a little closer .”
        
        But given that the VP is even more extreme than his boss , who knows .
        
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        February 13, 2018 2:20pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Maggy W, it is you who needs to take look The fact that the VP sat next to the sister speaks volumes.
        Did you look at the image in your link?
        Do you even know who you are looking at?
        
        Kim Jong un’s sister, Kim Yo Jong, is sitting next to Kim Yong Nam and Elke Buedenbender.
        
        Mike Pence is sitting one row in front. He has his wife on one side and Shinzo Abe on the other side.
        
        from your link – picture caption:
        
        Check out the photo below: That’s Kim Yo Jong on the far left, and Pence is just one row in front of her and four seats to the right. Also in the photo are South Korean President Moon Jae-in (bottom left in the white coat) and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe (bottom right, next to Pence) — both close US allies whose countries are in the direct crosshairs of North Korea.
        
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        February 13, 2018 2:56pm
    - GoVege
      
      Really?
      What an idiot!
      
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      February 13, 2018 2:10pm
      - GoVege
        
        But Pence is a chauvinist through and through, no better than Trump…
        
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        February 13, 2018 2:12pm
  - flipper
    
    More shit from the stupidprick, even of he refers to the notorious Vox.
    Fact: Pence sat next to his wife (Rt) and Japan’s PM Abe (Lft).
    Just crawl back to Fraser House.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:59am
    - stephieboy
      
      flipper , the notorious Vox vs Fox lies ,
      
      https://www.zapmeta.ws/ws?q=fox%20news%20lies%20list&asid=ws_gc18_04&mt=b&nw=g&de=c&ap=1o1?
      
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      February 13, 2018 2:22pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @ flipper
      Clearly stephieboy didn’t read your fact about Pence’s seating arrangement, as he persisted with his nonsense at 2.20pm.
      
      Perhaps he’s been fooled by one of those “perspective” shots that tries to place Pence alongside Kim Yo Jong.
      https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=kim+yo+jong+and+pence&rlz=1C5CHFA_enNZ707NZ709&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGqJHu76HZAhVP_WMKHWIKB1kQ_AUICigB&biw=1422&bih=684
      
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      February 13, 2018 3:46pm
  - dime
    
    “And VP Mike Pence sat next to Kim Jon Un’s sister”
    
    so you agree with my post. thats good.
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:06am
    - stephieboy
      
      dime , just a fact of life that the VP felt comfortable with .. I suppose it is possible; that Pence filled his pants in the process .
      
      Could you follow up on the pongs ?
      
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      February 13, 2018 2:26pm
      - dime
        
        english, do you speak it?
        
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        February 13, 2018 3:31pm
- Ed Snack
  
  The MSM and left obviously would have Pence make up to the current head of the DPRK Propaganda Ministry, Kim Yo Jong.
  
  I guess if Pence were around in 1936 they would have excoriated him for not schmoozing up to Goebbels.
  
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  February 13, 2018 12:08pm
UpandComer

https://vladtepesblog.com/2018/02/07/those-people-who-ate-with-me-drank-danced-laughed-they-talk-about-me-as-stupid-german-whore/

A few women in Germany learning some hard lessons. It’s enough to make you want to stab yourself with a fork.

Most people would rather be replaced then be called ‘wacist’ or ‘anti semitic’.

It’s like another Rotherham in Germany, not as bad, no, but pretty bad, and no one says a thing.
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February 13, 2018 9:44am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  There are none so blind and those who will not see.
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:59am
  - UpandComer
    
    It’s like these daft cossetted females have to actually be raped personally, and taqquiyad personally, to figure out these people aren’t the same as the Jewish diaspora even if they’re told it’s anti semitic to say otherwise.
    
    It starts to make one really coldly angry.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:16am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Help me to understand.
      
      This German activist seemed unable to correctly assess the risks of helping these kinds of refugees.
      
      – Was it a “Leftist” thing?
      – Was it an “I am ruled by my feelz” thing?
      – Was it a “naivety of youth” thing?
      – Did she hate her own nation and its volk?
      
      I sincerely hope that this young woman will now devote equal energy towards attempting to undo the harm that she has caused to her country.
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:29am
      - UpandComer
        
        Mass brain washing by the Erin Von Bergs, Gregor Gysis and that entire set who run Germany via America.
        
        They’re taught not to have any kids themselves and then pour all their maternal instincts on their own rapists and replacements, because their own kids are Nazis and the rapfugees are just like the Jewish diaspora after world war 2, and it’s ‘anti-semitic’ to engage in the ‘islamophobia’ of truth and self interest. You can’t exaggerate how fucked up Germany and Sweden are, and their women because of that they’re taught. Sweden is now burning and melting down its Viking artofscts under the guise of a Pakistani minister of culture because if all Sweden’s history is destroyed it will make it easier for the invaders not to feel different.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:39am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        “Mass brain washing by the Erin Von Bergs, Gregor Gysis and that entire set who run Germany via America.”
        
        People have to want to believe in the “brain washing” for it to work. How could anyone believe the call not to have children? It is a basic human need. (Mind you, Japan can talk…)
        
        I used to lament at how easily the un-informed people of the pre-War period were led. And yet, nowadays with the Internet and all, the flowers of Germany seems every bit as uncritical in their thinking and reasoning as their grandparents. Have they learning nothing from history?
        
        (Apologies for ranting…)
        
        Look on the bright side. The refugees need the Germans, but the Germans do not need the refugees. Also, the refugees are easily identifiable and possess no marketable skills.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:57am
      - UpandComer
        
        http://www.returnofkings.com/128167/swedish-museum-accelerates-their-cultural-collapse-by-turning-viking-artifacts-into-scrap-metal
        
        https://twitter.com/ArgBlatteTalar/status/962076245218312192
        
        In case anyone thinks I’m exaggerating.
        
        They ‘can’t afford’ to put priceless iron age artifacts of their nordic history into a warehouse, but they can afford to give infinite rapefugees eternal gibs.
        
        It’s soft genocide. It’s so painful because I’ll never get to see Sweden. All I’m going to see is some horrendous leftist dystopian vestiges.
        
        They are committing suicide. The rapefugees will completely destroy their welfare state, because no matter how much people pretend otherwise, they cannot generate enough value or productivity to pay even for themselves let alone the wider welfare state, their culture, and their historical memory.
        
        The only place you’ll find that culture in a generation or two will be bootlegged versions of Skyrim.
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:15am
srylands

I just wanted to say how awesome Uber is. I did two identical trips yesterday. One but Uber $9. One by taxi $22.

Thr Uber was quicker, cleaner more convenient to pay.

It must be killing the marginal taxis. It would only be corporate and government work keeping them alive.
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February 13, 2018 9:50am
- Keeping Stock
  
  My brother retired last year, but to fill in a few hours he bought a new car just before Christmas and signed up with Uber.
  
  He’s loving the work, he does the hours that suit him (he won’t work nights), and he is making a steady income. He’s also ferried some interesting people, and had plenty of good conversations.
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:03am
- itstricky
  
  One but Uber $9. One by taxi $22.
  
  I wouldn’t rely on them always being half the price of a taxi:
  
  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-profitability/true-price-of-an-uber-ride-in-question-as-investors-assess-firms-value-idUSKCN1B3103
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:24am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    That may be so..but to date, I and daughter have found them to be reliable in NZ, Ozzie, and USA.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:58am
  - srylands
    
    The price of transport is wrecked by regulation and barriers to entry.
    
    When I lived on the Kapiti Coast, on the weekend there would be full size buses doing fixed routes with one or two passengers on board. Not occasionally. All the time.
    
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    February 13, 2018 12:43pm
    - Digmen1
      
      Same here in Tauranga!
      And our rates subside it!
      
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      February 13, 2018 1:07pm
- dime
  
  yeah man.
  
  the classic was a trip i took in the city last year – going to the event, $9. good guy. retired cop. good chat.
  
  came back in a cab – total prick. on his phone the entire time. the only time he spoke to us was to ask us whether there were more people still at the event and if he should go back. $18.
  
  last cab i ever take unless im really really stuck (or too wasted to know any better)
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:08am
  - Longknives
    
    Ex Coppers always have good stories Dime.
    Funnily enough after seeing the worst of the worst in the ‘Real World’ not many of them are Labour voters..
    
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    February 13, 2018 12:09pm
    - Morrissey
      
      The ones with a conscience and a brain are.
      
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      February 13, 2018 12:17pm
      - Swifty
        
        Grow up.
        
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        February 13, 2018 1:04pm
Digmen1

Meanwhile Uber Head office is just a big ponzi scheme that keeps losing money and screwing its drivers
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February 13, 2018 10:28am
- dime
  
  lol screwing their drivers?
  
  my buddy drives for them. loves it.
  
  my cousin drives for them in san fran while studying. loves it.
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:09am
Ross12

I think it was Digmen1 who asked yesterday about information on Charter Schools.
SB over at W/O has reposted all the articles she did a few years ago on the schools –lots to read but well worth it for those interested.

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/02/charter-schools-new-zealand-collection-articles-published-whaleoil/
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February 13, 2018 10:30am
- lifesgood
  
  Except that most of us are avoiding WO
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:40am
  - Ross12
    
    I did say for those interested and while I agree with many who are against Cam’s anti Bill English stand it doesn’t other contributors to the site do not write something worth reading.
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:24am
Gravelroad

There was a middle aged NK coach at the Olympics on TV yesterday.
He had been a top athlete in martial arts.
When young he competed at an international competition representing NK and came second.
When he got home, he was sent to work in a coal mine for six months because he didn’t win.
Eventually he was let out and resumed training.
Went to another international competition and defected.
His brother, back in NK, got sent to the coal mine for 12 months in retaliation and both families paid a heavy price for his defection (and not winning).
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February 13, 2018 10:32am
- kowtow
  
  To Paraphrase the great man, WSC.
  
  Socialism, the equal sharing of misery.
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:02am
AgentBallSack

I don’t miss Realityczech or his strawman posts one iota.
I wouldn’t miss stephie when he’s gone.
Gobshite and Morrison are one and the same.
Mikenmilds posts have been making a lot more sense lately.
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February 13, 2018 10:36am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’ve noticed Mikenmild is no longer writing abusive comments.
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:56am
Manolo

The nefarious Mamma Merkel:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics/merkel-spd-under-renewed-fire-over-german-coalition-deal-idUSKBN1FW1BZ

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the leader of the Social Democrats (SPD) faced further criticism on Monday from within their own parties over a new coalition deal that must still be approved by disgruntled SPD rank-and-file members.
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February 13, 2018 10:47am
- Jack5
  
  Yep MMP misperforming in Germany, as it does in NZ.
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:00pm
Swifty

Labout inherits a booming economy:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11993383

I think ‘booming’ is hyperbole, but things were kicking along pretty well in the 2nd half of 2017 – and as this evidence shows.

Thanks National. You did pretty much all one can reasonably ask for. Of course, there were things that you wouldn’t or couldn’t resolve, but on the whole a good effort.

For lefties who screamed and yelled for nine years saying National wasn’t addressing this, that or the next thing: well, now the shoe’s on the other foot. Let’s see you deliver the socialist utopia and golden eggs you claim possible – all while not killing the golden goose that pays for all your flights of fancy and ‘social justice’ crusades.

I will be watching your performance with great relish.
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February 13, 2018 11:23am
- Digmen1
  
  Labour inherits a tax bonus
  
  It will be their last!
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:34am
- Swifty
  
  *Labour, my apologies.
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:43am
cha

gone

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/101392775
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February 13, 2018 11:23am
- tf78
  
  A great loss for NZ and National. Another good bloke gone – Cameron Slater will no doubt take all the credit.
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:46am
- Morrissey
  
  https://z6k4e9ngmp-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/monsanto-stockholders-evacuating-ship.jpg
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:49am
Morrissey

The tall young guy standing behind the Dipper’s left shoulder

Is he the one that was outed for posting hate messages with his Holy Joe mates a few years ago?
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February 13, 2018 11:46am
rangitoto

Oxfam’s ‘Caligula orgy villa’:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5383251/Inside-Oxfams-Caligula-orgy-villa.html
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February 13, 2018 12:08pm
- rangitoto
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5383223/123-cases-alleged-sexual-harassment-Oxfam-stores.html
  
  Par for the course leftie organisation.
  
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  February 13, 2018 12:20pm
  - Longknives
    
    Swiss Balls provided?
    
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    February 13, 2018 12:25pm
Manolo

What a moron!
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/02/12/nbc-s-katie-couric-mocked-for-comments-about-dutch-speed-skating-team.html

She said Amsterdam “has lots of canals that can freeze in winter. So, for as long as the canals have existed, the Dutch have skated on them to get from place to place, to race each other and also to have fun.”
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February 13, 2018 12:26pm
- Morrissey
  
  Come on, now. THIS is a moron:
  
  https://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/2017/11/06/sarah-huckabee-sanders-1-x750.jpg
  
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  February 13, 2018 12:32pm
waripori

Back in 2007 I spent a lot of time following US economics sites like Denninger’s market-ticker and Mish’s Global econ. Have not bothered much since as it has been a one way bet but things at the moment have a similar sort of feel. We don’t have housing related issues but we do have the problems associated with interest rates too low for too long and most Governments ( apart from ours, Thanks Bill) still with awful fiscal problems.

If the US bond market blows up in the face of too much Government debt it could get nasty. If you have a mortgage or have investments it would pay to keep an eye on things.

As an example
https://www.themaven.net/mishtalk/economics/trapped-funds-myth-foreign-cash-repatriation-boom-in-reverse-lSTs6z32sUq8QCNGsHvi0A

Mish is saying the hundreds of Billions supposedly held offshore by US Corporates ( virtually all tech companies ) and which will now come back as a result of the corporate tax cuts are not offshore at all. Most of it is held in US dollars in US banks but owned by offshore subsidiaries of US companies and have thus not been subject to US tax. The impact of the tax cut may not be what people have been told at all.
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February 13, 2018 12:29pm
Longknives

At least between Hurricanes in the Pacific and Bill English falling on his sword we have plenty to talk about today!

Christ yesterday’s breaking news story was some Reality TV psychic claiming to have contacted Charlotte Dawson..
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February 13, 2018 12:46pm
MH

Bill got poor advice.Like Key they both have now resigned too early. And what I hate is another unjustified bye election. I voted that he and others would do their duty and last the 3 years no matter what. Not happy, I understand the emotion, but the tough keep going.
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February 13, 2018 12:48pm
- Swifty
  
  By-election?
  
  Bill is a list MP.
  
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  February 13, 2018 12:55pm
- MH
  
  Do they have red faced emojis. oops. OK, what about altering stationery then?
  
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  February 13, 2018 3:20pm
  - Swifty
    
    That’s more like it 🙂
    
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    February 13, 2018 3:49pm
  - KiWombat
    
    Stationary?
    
    They haven’t done that for years.
    
    Only need to put a new template into the computer – takes less than 5 minutes !
    
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    February 13, 2018 8:52pm
GoVege

Happy belated New Years KBers!
And as I read on a sign in front of a church last year, don’t ever forget “You are loved more than you will ever know”. 🙂 🙂
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February 13, 2018 2:46pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  狗年吉祥
  You are 3 days too early, Go Vege.
  Chinese New Year 2018
  
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  February 13, 2018 3:40pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    What animal is it for the Chinese year in 2018?
    
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    February 13, 2018 4:11pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Dog 狗
      
      (I wrote…狗年吉祥….)
      Have an auspicious Year of the Dog
      
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      February 13, 2018 4:33pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        In Japan, it would be the 犬年.
        “狗” exists in Japanese kanji dictionaries, but is not one of the 1,850 essential (当用 toyo) characters and is not in common use.
        
        Japan is trying to reign in its kanji characters and is doing a pretty good job.
        
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        February 13, 2018 8:39pm
    - rangitoto
      
      The dog I think.
      
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      February 13, 2018 4:34pm
- GoVege
  
  What a bunch of mean grumpy down-tickers!
  Maggie: better late than never…
  OK, here’s another one:
  Feel the love!!!!
  
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  February 13, 2018 5:50pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I didn’t uptick you, Go Vege…
    
    I suspect a plot from that Church to capture my immortal soul.
    
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    February 13, 2018 6:00pm
    - GoVege
      
      Don’t go getting paranoid on us, Maggie!
      There are some nice Christians out there, (especially the first one.)
      As even Richard Dawkins admitted, we are lucky to be raised in a religion that advocates non-violence ….unlike some others….
      
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      February 13, 2018 6:30pm
Manolo

An icon of the Left speaks:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/12/george-soros-defends-donation-to-anti-brexit-campaign.html

Billionaire investor George Soros is defending his right to donate hundreds of thousands of pounds to a pro-European Union campaign aimed at stopping the U.K. leaving the political and economic bloc.
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February 13, 2018 2:58pm
Digmen1

I see Jacinda is sending aid to Tonga very quickly.

What happened to our own West Coast and Coromandel?

I think she should fly out every unemployed Tongan lardo and drop them off there to help.
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February 13, 2018 3:17pm
- Longknives
  
  Does our Airforce even have that sort of capability?
  
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  February 13, 2018 4:10pm
- KiWombat
  
  Nobody from the government has been seen down the West Coast – somehow the news hasn’t filtered through yet.
  
  On the plus side, Coasters are a tough lot, and they are getting on with fixing their own problems.
  
  Perhaps they should secede from the rest of the country – would be better off
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:00pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Gracious..
    
    The birthplace of the NZ Labour Party is just too working class for fashionable jet-setters, I suspect.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackball,_New_Zealand
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:15pm
Rich Prick

And so it continues … have your sick bags handy folks.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/celebrity-homes/101361351/our-life-in-things-pm-jacinda-ardern-and-clarke-gayford
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February 13, 2018 4:15pm
- Longknives
  
  What the fuck did I just read?
  I take back my criticism of their ‘Charlotte Dawson has returned from the grave’ article from yesterday…
  This is a new low.
  
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  February 13, 2018 4:35pm
- Manolo
  
  Vomit-inducing indeed.
  
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  February 13, 2018 4:43pm
- Inandout
  
  That look in his eyes reads ‘who can I copulate with next’?
  
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  February 13, 2018 5:14pm
  - Longknives
    
    Ha Ha he has probably racked up a few more to the tally since that interview Inandout!
    A Leopard and his Spots etc….
    
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    February 13, 2018 5:50pm
- itstricky
  
  And yet, you found it, clicked on it and read it all. Go figure.
  
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  February 13, 2018 5:17pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Actually, I was sent the link by a particularly mean colleague who knows I have a sensitive gag reflex.
    
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    February 13, 2018 5:31pm
- Peter
  
  It’s like the country – the media, in particular – has plummeted into some sub-Women’s Weekly moron world.
  
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  February 13, 2018 5:44pm
- KiWombat
  
  “preparing to be a full time stay at home dad”
  
  Now I’ve heard home detention described in a variety of creative terms, but this is a new one !
  
  Well done “Stuff” two ticks for artistic merit !
  
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  February 13, 2018 9:09pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    KiWombat – You’ve mentioned this obliquely a couple of times now. I even asked a mate of mine in the media which drew a blank. Is there veracity to your insinuation?
    
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    February 13, 2018 9:14pm
    - sam green
      
      No – s/he’s a CT plant.
      
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      February 13, 2018 9:17pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Indeed. The First Squeeze might be a “very” stay at home Dad.
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:59pm
- SPLOOGE
  
  John Key in a mock jail cell while on a jock’s radio station making fun about homosexual rape in prison is way funnier mate.
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:30pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    And no doubt the mental images have supplied your mental wank-bank ever since. Can you keep it all to yourself. Cheers.
    
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    February 13, 2018 11:11pm
Nick R

For anyone still interested, the Supreme Court just dismissed the final appeal in the Earl Hagaman v Andrew Little defamation case. Which means Little has won. Hagaman’s representatives have to pay costs to Andrew Little.

http://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/cases/earl-raymond-hagaman-v-andrew-james-little/@@images/fileDecision?r=24.4618067137
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February 13, 2018 4:21pm
- fernglas
  
  On the merits it was a draw. On the legalities, Mrs. H got the result the law required.
  
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  February 13, 2018 5:35pm
softail 1450

OMG,was i the only person that just saw the sickly white willow jean prime with the long dyed black hair trying to pass herself off as a maori. ffs .we are in the first stages of “closing the gaps” 02.
if you’re white (as prime is) buy your ticket to aussie while you can.
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February 13, 2018 4:47pm
- itstricky
  
  When’s your flight?
  
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  February 13, 2018 5:15pm
- Harkman
  
  Bang on, she is the ultimate underclass trash. So tacky and she ain’t fooling anyone.
  
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  February 13, 2018 6:29pm
Tom Barker

Willow-Jean prime is Ngapuhi, from the Kaikohe area. Her first language is Maori. You’ve got a problem with that?
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February 13, 2018 5:33pm
- Longknives
  
  My Grandmother was born in Ireland- Doesn’t make me fucking Irish! (Though I have been to Dublin and it is a lovely City..)
  It amuses me these folk with a tiny bit of Maori in them pontificating to everyone like they are something fucking special-And ranting on about how evil those Pakeha ‘Colonial Invaders’ were…
  
  That I can recall Willow Jean’s one achievement as a List MP is dragging some poor screaming kid into Parliament Chambers and breastfeeding it for the cameras.
  Speaks volumes of the whole Labour Party really…
  
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  February 13, 2018 5:47pm
  - cha
    
    But should you decide to be fucking Irish!, you can be fucking Irish!.
    
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html#l97318
    
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    February 13, 2018 6:21pm
Digmen1

Charter schools are going.
Dont believe Labours double talk.
They cant even construct a simple sentence about what is happening.
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February 13, 2018 5:33pm
GoVege

I see some sadist has finally been sentenced for torturing his wife and kids for 15 years.
We are not allowed to know his name so as not to identify the family, but shouldn’t we be permitted to know a few details: such as how this managed to go on for so long without being detected?
Either they must have lived in a very isolated part of the country, or come from another country.
I have heard that one of the forms of torture..throwing boiling water on the victim, is fairly common in the Pacific Islands.
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February 13, 2018 6:00pm
- simpleton1
  
  Horrifically unbelievable physical and mentally manipulative controlling abuse that went on for years.
  
  http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/man-jailed-for-sadistic-family-violence/
  
  The sentence seems to be lenient.
  I guess name suppression may be because of the rest of the family, wife and children, that want to get on with their lives
  
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  February 13, 2018 6:12pm
- GoVege
  
  Not as bad as in Muslim countries though…where they throw acid.
  (And parts of Britain thanks to immigration.)
  
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  February 13, 2018 10:02pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Thousands of attacks every year in cities all over Britain
    
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    February 13, 2018 10:05pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Wed , from which alt right rag .?
      
      Sigh !
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:11pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        British Police statistics you moron
        Better than Vox, Slate, Salon, Daily Mail, Politico you like
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:13pm
      - simpleton1
        
        The government will ban the sale of acids to anyone under the age of 18, Home Secretary Amber Rudd has said.
        http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41484909
        I just wonder why throwing acid on others is tolerated.?
        Why is this becoming a rapid increasing problem in the Uk?
        Is it as much a problem in other countries? per capita?
        Has some “cross infection” occured so that now it seems ok in the UK?
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:23pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Thousands of acid or other attacks ?
        
        Thousands ?
        
        Police stats ? Cite please.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:37pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/16/1500-acid-attacks-hit-london-since-2011/
        
        Check out this site, stephieboy. It’s not a right-wing organisation.
        https://www.acidviolence.org/
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:38pm
      - simpleton1
        
        Jaf Shah, from the London charity Acid Survivors Trust International says the phenomenon isn’t new and dates back to the Victorian times in Britain, but says the recent figures are shocking.
        “The recent spike in attacks means the UK has the highest number of reported acid attacks per capita in the world. “….. [UK government sees that this a major issue and do not want this problem to increase even more]
        ……Labour MP for East Ham Stephen Timms has tabled an adjournment debate for Monday in the House of Commons on the rise in the number of acid attacks. [government see this as a major problem and do not want to lead the world in acid attacks]
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:40pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Thousands ?
        
        Police stats ? Cite please.
        
        Do you think people on here are lying, stephieboy?
        
        Can’t you check anything yourself?
        
        Do you really have no clue as to what is happening in the World?
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:42pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy Wassilieff
        
        “Everything you know about acid attacks is wrong”
        
        18 November 2017
        
        “ There is a common understanding of acid attacks in the UK that goes something like this: the attacker is male; the victim female. Both are South Asian, and the violence has something to do with the man’s so-called ‘honour’.
        
        But the most comprehensive set of data yet on acid attacks in London paints a different picture.
        
        Statistics released by London’s Metropolitan Police to the BBC provide a breakdown of every recorded acid attack over a 15-year period by age, gender, ethnicity, borough, hate crime and outcome. It’s the fullest picture yet of the capital’s suspects and victims.
        The findings include:
        
        • The suspect was male 74% of the time and victim was male 67% of the time
        • Just 6% of suspects were Asian
        • Only one so-called ‘honour’ attack was recorded in 15 years
        • Four out of five violent offences never reached trial
        
        ……”
        
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/5d38c003-c54a-4513-a369-f9eae0d52f91
        
        Why is it that you appear to detest Muslims so much in common with many other Trumpeters ?
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:47pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Of course he doesn’t.
        He’s too thick
        I reckon he fancies hes on a Crusade taking the fight to the ‘righties’
        He’s a Religious Nutter. Just look at his Church with their silly rituals.
        He’s the one with the Extremist views and is an outlier to mainstream opinion.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:48pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘The number of violent acid attacks in London has soared by more than 78 per cent over the past two years with a huge increase in the number of victims, according to the latest figures.
        
        Statistics released by the Met today show there were 465 violent “corrosive liquid” offences recorded in the capital (London )in 2017, up from 260 in 2015.’
        https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/acid-attack-violence-in-london-soars-by-more-than-78-per-cent-a3736516.html
        It’s happening in major cities all over the UK.
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:57pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Here’s a report from that Alt Right Mag National Public Radio…
        ‘”We are now at levels that one of my colleagues described as epidemic,” said Dr. Martin Niall, a burn surgeon at Mid-Essex Hospital, where many acid attack victims in East London are treated. “Everyone, ourselves included, has been shocked by this emerging threat to public health.”
        https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/08/06/541209398/acid-attacks-on-the-rise-in-the-u-k
        The Police state it’s very much under reported.
        The Surgeons know though- they have to deal with it.
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:03pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      So what stephieboy..
      
      That’s well-known news.
      
      In recent years male moped gangs are now using acid attacks against other males or gang members.
      
      That doesn’t change the fact that 80% of acid attacks worldwide are against females and acid attacks are particularly common in Moslem-dominated countries.
      
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      February 13, 2018 10:52pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Why is it that you appear to detest Muslims so much in common with many other Trumpeters
        
        Where have I ever written or said that I detest another fellow human being?
        
        I don’t detest anyone.
        
        I abhor violence.
        I abhor bullying.
        I abhor harrassment.
        
        Do you understand these concepts?
        
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        February 13, 2018 10:56pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy Wassilief , a reminder acid attacks happen and are a problem in India and not exclusively by Muslims India is a Hindu dominated country . Weren’t you aware ?
        
        DUH!
        
        http://www.dw.com/en/why-acid-attacks-are-on-the-rise-in-india/a-19313750
        
        Facts of this kind help stop fanning the flames of prejudice and hate Instead of your sweeping ill informed generalisations
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:00pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Stephie plays #whataboutism as usual to deflect from what is being discussed.
        POS
        You’re the extremist who is mis informed
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:06pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy Wassilief and your confederate All on Red Herring .con ,
        
        From his latest acid attack link this ,
        
        Derryck John, 17, attacked six delivery riders . Very Muslim sounding name , eh ?
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:07pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Could have converted Stephie
        Does happen eh Extremist Nutter
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:09pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        read back through this thread..
        
        where have I said that it is only muslims that indulge in acid attacks?
        
        Now think about this carefully…
        
        Acid attacks have been common in muslim communities and hindu communities and in communities where women are expected to accept arranged marriages.
        Acid attacks occur in many countries, but Bangladesh & Pakistan have the worst statistics.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_throwing
        
        In addition to these types of acid attacks Male – Female, that have taken place over the last 60-70 years, there has been a recent surge of acid attacks in modern day cities where weapons (guns/knives) are difficult to conceal, but plastic spray bottles are readily available.
        
        These city gang acid attacks are being carried out by young males against other males, in the main.
        
        One type of acid attack has not replaced another… there is a burgeoning increase in acid attacks… and that was the point the original comments in this thread made.
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:33pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        You’re wasting your time using logic and sense Maggy
        He’s an extreme religious Nutter on a ‘crusade’
        None of his views conform to mainstream thinking.
        Take it in that context and his behaviour makes sense
        Sad!
        Love your work though
        
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        February 13, 2018 11:38pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @All_on_red
        
        Well, he’s definitely more persistent than the Jehovah’s Witness gentleman who came knocking at my window early this morning.
        
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        February 14, 2018 12:00am
      - simpleton1
        
        stephieboy FEBRUARY 13, 2018 11:07PM
        Maggy Wassilief and your confederate All on Red Herring .con ,
        From his latest acid attack link this ,
        Derryck John, 17, attacked six delivery riders . Very Muslim sounding name , eh ?
        
        What is it to do with a “very muslim sounding name”?
        His mother that was “sobbing and shouted in court” could have been Christian, muslim or atheist.
        https://www.yahoo.com/news/teenager-17-named-judge-admitted-carrying-six-acid-attacks-90-minutes-steal-mopeds-104059570.html
        Still some interesting ID and being 17 very little disclosed.
        ———–
        7/7 2005 London Bombings
        Germaine Maurice Lindsay attended Rawthorpe Junior School and Rawthorpe High School achieved an enriching “martydom” according to his ideology.
        Was it is ethnicity, culture, upbringing or the ideology he converted to and followed, with the reinforcing abrogating verses of the prophet.?
        ————
        22nd March Westminister car rammer knife attacker.
        Briton Khalid Masood. He was born Adrian Russell Elms, but later changed the name to Adrian Russell Ajao when he took the name of his stepfather. He changed his name to Khalid Masood after he converted to Islam. Police said he also used several other aliases, including Khalid Choudry
        Another one that changes names, and turned and followed the ideology that certifies verses by the prophet’s abrogation as he became a warlord.
        
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        February 14, 2018 1:17am
    - GoVege
      
      Acid attacks and threats of them have been a time-honoured method of controlling and terrorising women in sexist societies for ages.
      I used to know an Indian woman whose husband kept a bottle of acid on the bedroom table to threaten her with in the 70’s.
      An Asian woman I knew in South Auckland 20 years ago had half her face burned off with acid.
      I think what might have happened in England is that acid attacks were originally started by immigrants, and were adopted by street gangs as the ultimate weapon.
      
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      February 13, 2018 11:10pm
SPLOOGE

Another great day for Labour and another great day for New Zealand.
Finally the dead wood is being shaken out by the winds of change…. just a few years late.
I `will admit though that Bill English did manage to deliver 8 straight deficits on the back of 8 straight surpluses delivered by the most capable government ever seen in New Zealand, the Clark led Labour government.
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- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  NZ govt debt to gdp topped out at 25.5% of GDP in 2013 down to 22.2% in 2017. English delivered first budget in 2009, so that is 5 years of increasing debt.
  
  Have another go 🙂
  
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  February 13, 2018 11:30pm
- lofty
  
  Wow splooge you are good, almost as good as ztev, just not so well informed…keep up the good work pal.
  Imagine what the Clark regime could have delivered if they had to face a GFC and a couple of city destroying earthquakes..miracles I am picking. I Salute You ?
  
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