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William of Ockham

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BREAKING NEWS
Auckland Council reassures residents, gives lead to other councils

Residents were informed today that water that swamped their properties is not real.

Professors All_Red_Herrings and Waggy WaffleLeaf, self-anointed experts on climate change, said the hundreds of cubic kilometres of ice on Greenland and Antarctica is melting into imaginary water. “It’s purely in the minds of scientists,” they reported on Kiwiblog.

“Denial is the best way to avoid reality,” they continued, “The Royal Society, National Academy of Sciences, American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Physical Society, American Chemical Society … none of these has the right to endorse the science from 60,000 scientists publishing papers on man-made climate change.”

“Fortunately the Brothers Koch and other billionaires in the fossil fuel industry are financing useful idiots to counter this appalling lapse in judgement, the absolute abandonment of the scientific method.”

Pollster David Farrar added, “It’s imperative we get National back into power. Conservatives understand if we stop funding the science the problem will go away.”
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January 6, 2018 10:26am
- Manolo
  
  What a cheeky bugger! 🙂
  
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  January 6, 2018 10:29am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I was going to say what a bloody idiot.
    
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    January 6, 2018 10:51am
- Huevon
  
  There were strong winds, rain and floods before there were cars, my friend.
  
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  January 6, 2018 10:36am
- stephieboy
  
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  William of Ockham ,
  
  Brilliant !
  
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  January 6, 2018 10:36am
  - RalphT
    
    Sigh. Birds of a feather stick together.
    
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    January 6, 2018 10:42am
  - oldpark
    
    Shariaboy/Stephiaboy.
    Can you confirm that your mate Mohammed married a nine year old child. Surely not.
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:27am
    - G152
      
      Actually he ‘married’ her when she was six and had ‘interfemural’ sex (what ever that is) with her until she was nine when he ‘slept with her’.
      We have a name for that
      
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      January 6, 2018 1:01pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        ‘interfemural’ sex.
        I believe that is using the thighs for ‘stimulation’ instead of the vagina.
        
        Horrendous enough for the child.
        
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        January 6, 2018 1:29pm
    - Morrissey
      
      “And was it incestual? Who-o-o-o-o-o-o-oaaa-a-a-a-agggghhhhh!”….
      
      https://static2.stuff.co.nz/1408856068/393/10418393.jpg
      
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      January 6, 2018 6:26pm
- Harkman
  
  Hey mate, again you’re the opposite of the real William of Ockham.
  
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  January 6, 2018 10:47am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  “Fortunately the Brothers Koch and other billionaires in the fossil fuel industry are financing useful idiots
  
  Their cheque seems to have got lost in the Xmas mail. Please direct it to Waggles, Kaiti ghetto, Gizzy.
  
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  January 6, 2018 10:47am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Kaiti was on the news the other night Maggy. I looked for you in the camera background. ?
    
    Apparently, there is a petition to remove all pokie machines from Kaiti as some locals can’t control their addiction and are wasting all their income on the dream of hitting it big. The age-old problem of wishing your life away…
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:10am
    - holysheet
      
      Nah WG, Maggy was last seen at the nudist beach just up the road. enjoying the affects of global warming.
      
      https://celebrationgoddess.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/funny-old-lady-cartoon-character.jpg
      
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      January 6, 2018 11:22am
    - David Garrett
      
      Waikato: Gisborne is very small…I’m sure the locals will be able to get their unlicensed unwarranted cars from Kaiti to Elgin or wherever the machines are moved to…
      
      I was in the hometown recently…I must say it was pretty depressing walking around the very run down Kaiti Mall – I remember when it opened – and comparing it to downtown, which is as vibrant as I have seen it.
      
      Fuck, the sea was cold though! Even the surfies were still wearing wet suits…
      
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      January 6, 2018 11:30am
      - stephieboy
        
        DG , possibly also what is missing is the diversity dividend that as you know we enjoy in Auckland and elsewhere ,
        
        http://www.sginz.org/assets/image-gallery/Gallery/diverse/_resampled/resizedimage740491-070407-YD-LD-mtg-AKL059.JPG
        
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        January 6, 2018 12:14pm
      - GazzaW
        
        …….and here’s me thinking that the gerbils had all drowned in the flooding. WTF has that got to do with DG’s post Stephia?
        
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        January 6, 2018 12:54pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephiboy,
        
        you’ve never been to Kaiti, have you?
        
        Who do you think owns Kaiti Mall?
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10677802
        
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        January 6, 2018 2:13pm
      - Inandout
        
        I remember stopping at the Kaiti Mall on the way to our motel. I decided to stay in the car while my wife shopped because of the types hanging around the shops. The last time I was in Gisborne was about 10 years ago and the change to now is not nice.
        
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        January 6, 2018 4:28pm
- cmm
  
  WoO
  
  Just for the sake of a discussion, let us suppose those IPCC people are correct and the sea levels are now 2cm deeper due to climate change.
  
  The water in Kohimaramara was about 30-40cm deep. Of that 2cm was caused by climate change and the other 28-38 cm was caused by something else.
  
  Perhaps we should be a little bit more worried about the “something else”.
  
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  January 6, 2018 11:22am
- realityczech
  
  I checked the scientific data. King tides and rain existed long before we used fossil fuels.
  
  I also found that climate alarmism is behind a multi trillion dollar global industry.
  
  Interesting how you associate politics with science in your comment. Gosh I hope you are not suggesting scientists are influenced by politics and money ?
  
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  January 6, 2018 1:15pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    Although I agree with you, I think you’re pissing against the wind in giving any credence to ‘scientific data’.
    
    Its totally impossible to say anything about king tides etc using scientific data – just like it’s idiotic to talk about sea levels in the 10-20cms range.
    
    Any organisation that claims to have such ‘data’ is simply lying in order up scoop up government or UN money.
    
    People who fall for this pseudo science and use it to argue against the new religion are never going to win because there are so many baseless and competing ‘scientific’ claims being made on figures which are either invented or projected on the basis of false data.
    
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    January 6, 2018 2:14pm
    - Dave Mann
      
      Would the downticker care to argue his/her point?
      
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      January 6, 2018 2:32pm
- JIV
  
  Let me get this right.
  
  The big freeze in Eastern USA proves Global Warming
  The heat in Western USA proves Global Warming
  The extended fine weather in NZ proves Global Warming
  The rain in NZ proves Global Warming
  The melting ice in Greenland and Arctic proves Global Warming
  The record ice in Antarctica proves Global Warming.
  Have I missed any of your science??
  
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  January 6, 2018 1:27pm
  - Scott
    
    Yes you are correct. Whatever the weather it’s all proof of global warming. When you point out that snow in Tallahassee, Florida for the first time in 30 years fell yesterday you just get a shrug. The fact is the USA is experiencing record cold weather right now. The exact opposite of what global warming would predict. ?
    
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    January 6, 2018 2:16pm
Manolo

Will comrade PM Ardern follow suit?
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/federal-government-cut-16000-jobs-2017

The federal government employed 16,000 fewer people in December 2017 than it did in December 2016, according to data released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
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January 6, 2018 10:27am
- CHFR1
  
  I wish but she needs to employ her supporters so guess not.
  
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  January 6, 2018 11:01am
- Harkman
  
  If Wellington rents are anything to go by, the answer is no.
  
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  January 6, 2018 11:06am
- ztev
  
  national party stopped releasing those numbers around 2014 -as the numbers were climbing
  
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  January 6, 2018 5:08pm
  - john1234
    
    Really ztev?
    
    http://www.ssc.govt.nz/public-service-workforce-data/hrc-workforce
    
    2017
    
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    January 6, 2018 7:06pm
    - cha
      
      Really?.
      
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      Last updated: 7 December 2017
      
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      January 6, 2018 7:11pm
David Garrett

Climate Change…formerly known as global warming…Well, that’s today’s GD fucked!
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January 6, 2018 10:29am
- William of Ockham
  
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  What does the CC in IPCC stand for?
  
  Is it beyond your intelligence to understand global warming causes climate change?
  
  Such as extreme cold weather on the East Coast of the US? As cold air came down from the Arctic when the Polar Vortex changed? (Due to massive increase in energy – warming of the Arctic.)
  
  I guess the answer is “Yes”.
  
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  January 6, 2018 10:36am
  - David Garrett
    
    William: Well old boy, at least I value my opinions/assertions enough to put my name to them…More than you and the other warmists do…
    
    But for the record, my personal view is the climate is probably changing (as it always does)…it might even be driven by man…but there’s absolutely fuck all we 4.5 million souls can do about it down here…other than virtue signalling…
    
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    January 6, 2018 10:44am
    - waikatogirl
      
      You are right DG, while the west has been cleaning up their pollutants, for decades 90% of all plastic waste in the sea comes from India and Asian countries dumping rubbish without thought, that gets flushed into their waterways and out to sea.
      
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      January 6, 2018 11:15am
      - srylands
        
        I recently travelled by train in India. All the train passengers throw their rubbish out the train windows. I guess it frequently collides with the people defecating by the tracks.
        
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        January 6, 2018 11:43am
      - KevinH
        
        On a visit to Bangkok I was astonished to see the chronic pollution down at the waterfront while waiting to catch a river taxi up river to a temple.
        There was literally thousands of condoms, plastic objects including bags and the odd dead animal in the water lapping at the wharf.
        
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        January 6, 2018 12:57pm
    - flipper
      
      DG …..
      
      CC is all regurgitated, troughing, alarmist crap. The silly WoO should go read the Club of Rome’s predictions…. and then those of Erlich and his Population Bomb, and all the Jones, Hansen, Mann computer (garbage in: garbage out) drivel.
      The best example of the changing world – that is the youngish geological world of NZ – is to be found at the Castlepoint lighthouse, Wairarapa. Those hundreds if thousands of sea shells embedded, but not fossilised, in the mini mountain high above the present day sea level, are all part of the climate evolution. There were no “research” troughers sucking on the tax payer tit. There were no WoOs, thank the Lord. There was simply the knowledge that the whole CE business is written in the rocks. But of course WoO and his like are quite unable to recognise that CE (climate evolution) has been around since the dawn.
      Bloody stupid gits.
      
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      January 6, 2018 12:13pm
    - William of Ockham
      
      Putting your name on your comments doesn’t make them any less irrational than any other deluded fool who believes (s)he knows more science than the global community of scientists.
      
      For heaven’s sake man, not one scientific organisation, in any branch of science, in any country in the world contests the consensus of climate scientists – the IPCC.
      
      Not even the geological societies, with many of their membership involved in mining and oil are deranged enough to deny the science.
      
      You’ve been brainwashed.
      
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      January 6, 2018 3:06pm
      - KevOB
        
        The IPCC itself has said it cannot measure climate change and they are dealing with a chaotic system.
        Look for it–hint TAR.
        
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        January 6, 2018 4:14pm
      - freethinker
        
        Well done for admitting commenter’s have brains pity your rejected you.
        
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        January 6, 2018 9:59pm
    - Peter
      
      Virtue signalling is all they have left.
      
      I remember the same far-left “visionaries” were predicting doom, and quoting “consensus” science, to assure us that Peak Oil was upon us.
      
      Like this:
      
      https://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/21/preparing-for-peak-oil/
      
      “….a conservative estimate of a 4 per cent annual decline in oil supply raises the prospect of a 12 per cent contraction of New Zealand’s economy over 15 years.”
      
      Meanwhile:
      
      “Growth in oil supply next year is expected to outpace an anticipated pick-up in demand that will push global consumption above 100 million barrels per day (bpd) for the first time, the International Energy Agency said on Wednesday.”
      
      The socialists are very quiet on Peak Oil now, of course. And growing very quiet on AGW, too.
      
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      January 6, 2018 3:49pm
    - calendar girl
      
      “…..at least I value my opinions/assertions enough to put my name to them…..”
      
      If you are going to evaluate other people’s views on whether or not noms-de-plume are used, DG, you will have very little worth reading on this KB site. Your own contributions are judged primarily on the logic and persuasiveness of your arguments, not on the presence of your name at their end.
      
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      January 6, 2018 6:27pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        People in Germany are losing their jobs for daring belong to the AfD (not ‘far right’ at all, just a decent conservative party).
        
        NZ will be going the same way under this government: hate speech laws, spying on people who dare to voice anything but a far left opinion.
        
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        January 6, 2018 6:37pm
  - Harkman
    
    CC= Crooked Consultants
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:08am
rightoverlabour

I believe the USA is suffering from global warming. Snow in Florida is evidence of this…..
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January 6, 2018 10:34am
- William of Ockham
  
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  Ignoranus.
  
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  January 6, 2018 10:36am
  - holysheet
    
    Inyouranus?
    Keep your sex life out of it, you dirty pervert.
    
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    January 6, 2018 10:46am
- David Garrett
  
  Right over: No No No!, that’s weather not climate…Get with the program!! It’s a bit like the change from global warming to climate change…if you start getting record cold events – like the US is right now – then you refer to the weather which, however cold, is always evidence of climate change… so as not to interfere with the paradigm…Geddit??
  
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  January 6, 2018 10:39am
  - William of Ockham
    
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    Climate is the statistics of weather.
    
    As someone who doesn’t have a clue about simple physics (vehicles colliding), why don’t you leave the science to scientists?
    
    That’s what any rational person would do.
    
    Oh. Forgot. This is Kiwiblog…
    
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    January 6, 2018 10:43am
    - David Garrett
      
      Well you see Willie, this is another of the countless differences between people like me and people like you…I frequently say – beneath my own name – “I don’t know much about X, can someone please explain it to me?”
      
      People like you on the other hand are always 100% certain of the absolute correctness of your position(s)…An intellectual giant like you doesn’t need any advice or assistance! Dear me no…
      
      (Oh, and the discussion about vehicles colliding was very informative…now I understand it’s all about the mass of what you hit, not the speed it’s travelling at…Very helpful chaps here at KB)
      
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      January 6, 2018 10:49am
      - Johnboy
        
        So F doesn’t equal MV2 anymore?
        I always knew that Newton chap was a wanker DG…..something about his hair. 🙂
        https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=isaac+newton&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBtYOzi8LYAhWGjpQKHVZhD0MQiR4IuQE&biw=1668&bih=882
        
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        January 6, 2018 1:33pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Actually, Willie of Cockham,
      There are a few climatologists who comment on this blog.
      They are – wait for it – scientists.
      Who woulda guessed.
      
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      January 6, 2018 10:54am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Only those baptised in the global warming cult are allowed a voice. The scientific method where a hypothesis is challenged is not allowed. There is a great fear the truth will be revealed. Galileo faced similar thinking. Although I have studied palaeoclimatology I at this point have an issue with both sides of the debate. Co2 saturation debate is still not resolved, nor is the lag of Co2 and temperature trends.
        
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        January 6, 2018 11:09am
      - Brigitte
        
        Don, I’m pleased to hear there are some climatologists who comment here. I’m picking that, as scientists, they will be the ones presenting the facts that get universally downticked. But, if I’m wrong on that score, perhaps you could enlighten us all by giving an example or two of these climatologists.
        
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        January 6, 2018 11:38am
      - stephieboy
        
        Don the Kiwi ?
        
        “There are a few climatologists who comment on this blog.”
        
        MW and All on Red ??
        
        LOL
        
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        January 6, 2018 12:20pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Who needs scientists when you have experts like Leighton Smith and Jordan Williams to fill in the gaps?
        
        https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17042013/#comment-620413
        
        https://thedailyblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Screen-Shot-2014-07-31-at-4.58.24-am.png
        
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        January 6, 2018 6:36pm
    - holysheet
      
      Climate can also mean; the prevailing trend of public opinion or of another aspect of life: the current economic climate.
      See it has nothing to do with weather.
      
      If I said “Stooopidboy and the village idiot are both idiots”, this would be seen by most on KB as the current thinking climate.
      
      A message for you both,
      Somewhere out there is a tree working very hard to replace the oxygen you both waste. Now go and apologise to it.
      
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      January 6, 2018 10:57am
      - MH
        
        Hillary had a climate. Because it was there.
        
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        January 6, 2018 2:30pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I most humbly apologize noble sir. I will correct the errors of my ways. (It always amazes me that record hot times are evidence of global warming, and that record cold times are evidence of… global warming. ) I have not looked at the sun spot stuff for ages but I would think these record storms, the changes in the Rossby waves and the solar activity are related. But don’t tell the climate religious zealots that. They call you an ignoranus.
    
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    January 6, 2018 10:46am
  - Digmen1
    
    Yes, we need to call it weather, whenever we get the chance.
    
    I see they are having some really bad snow and cold weather in China!
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:05am
  - Brigitte
    
    There is a difference. There is GLOBAL warming, in fact whilst the US East is cold, the world is 0.6C warmer than a quarter century ago (see here for today: http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/DailySummary/#t2anom).
    
    As a result of the global warming, local weather can (and does on a more regular basis) vary from what is normally expected in a variety of different ways. And that matters as we have set up our cities and countries based on the historical weather patterns.
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:13am
    - Dave Mann
      
      It’s totally ridiculous to say that the world (as a whole) is 0.6° warmer than it was 25 years ago. How on earth would you be able to measure that? This is a stunning example of the fake science that I was writing about up thread.
      
      This kind of claim is just ludicrous because of all the measuring equipment being influenced by air-conditioning, car parks, gnats farting etc.
      
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      January 6, 2018 2:53pm
      - Brigitte
        
        My goodness, even by denier standards this is absolute drivel. How do scientists measure the average temperature? How about going to the relevant sites (GISS, NASA, NOAA etc) and reading the literature they they have in abundance.
        
        You clearly haven’t bothered with reading the comments on here as it’s been clearly pointed out that GISS removes any urban heating effects to avoid tainting the trend.
        
        Don’t worry, you have at least a good quarter of an hour before the cricket resumes. Plenty of time to start collecting some reading on the subject for later tonight.
        
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        January 6, 2018 3:17pm
    - JIV
      
      Nobody disagrees that the world is considerably warmer than the end of he last ice age 12,000 years ago. Or slightly warmer than the mid 19th century when the Mini Ice Age finished. Or marginally warmer than the 1970s which saw a cooling of the climate over several decades.
      
      This is why the alarmists cherry pick dates to compare temperature records. They certainly dont go back further that the mid 19th century, but prefer to start at the end of the 1940-1970 cooling period.
      As temperatures go up and down it is becoming harder to attribute the cause to the CO2 level in the atmosphere as the linear increase does not correlate with the irregular temperatures.
      
      Without the CO2 causation there is no way to make money from selling promises to change the weather. And money is what the whole scam is about.
      
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      January 6, 2018 3:01pm
      - GazzaW
        
        One thing’s for sure. As the debate over AGW rages on Al Gore sure ain’t getting any poorer.
        
        The best snake oil salesman in living history.
        
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        January 6, 2018 8:37pm
    - freethinker
      
      Yes but is that seasonally adjusted and volumetrically weighted for the strength of the Gamma rays emitted from your arse.
      
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      January 6, 2018 10:05pm
rightoverlabour

Ignoramus is the correct spelling.
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January 6, 2018 10:41am
- William of Ockham
  
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  Whoosh!
  
  I guess you wouldn’t know your “amus” from a hole in the ground if you planted a pineapple in it.
  
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  January 6, 2018 10:43am
  - kowtow
    
    Meanwhile at the Guardian , like most MSM , more lies about “climate change”.
    
    The headline blames climate change , the details don’t support that.
    
    ‘While Poopó has suffered El Niño-fuelled droughts for millennia, its fragile ecosystem has experienced unprecedented stress in the past three decades. Temperatures have risen by about 1 degree Celsius while mining activity has pinched the flow of tributaries, increasing sediment.’
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/22/bolivias-second-largest-lake-dries-up-and-may-be-gone-forever-lost-to-climate-change
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:02am
    - backster
      
      The prophesy about the Lakes drying up sounds similar to the announcement in the Daily Telegraph by emininent scientists about 15 years ago that the Children of England would never see snow again. That couldn’t be disputed either because the science was settled.
      
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      January 6, 2018 12:00pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        https://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/12/global-warming-hysteria-2000-english-children-will-not-know-snow-2010-oops-nevermind
        
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        January 6, 2018 2:25pm
EAD_TWO

Jews “unite” to push for more 3rd world immigration into the USA and allow all illegals “a path to citizenship”:

https://forward.com/news/179296/jews-unite-behind-push-for-immigration-reform/

But in Israel it’s a different story where Africans face a choice of being expelled or imprisoned:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/01/04/israel-to-expel-nearly-40000-illegal-african-migrants.html

The hypocrisy is staggering
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January 6, 2018 10:54am
- David Garrett
  
  good morning Maggy…those linked stories are behind a paywall…not much use to those of us who don’t wish to subscribe to The Australian…
  
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  January 6, 2018 10:59am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Try this one from the Guardian, then
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines
    
    I sometimes can get through The Australian paywall… and sometimes can’t.. no idea why
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:08am
    - backster
      
      Maybe those groups of thugs of African appearance should be call groups of Lone Wolves instead of gangs. ….The Victorian Police Leadership seems just as woeful and evasive as ours currently is.
      
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      January 6, 2018 12:09pm
- Brito
  
  EAD. I had a Skype with my parents last night and we discussed your comments and those of #upandcomers. Not sure if you remember but they live in a little valley in the north of Israel.
  
  My dad (101) listened to what I read and he summed it up for me. “Those that look for hatred will find it. Those that look for fear will live with it.” He shrugged his shoulders and said, “enough” and shuffled off screen.
  
  I agree with him. So this is my last comment to you or any of your supporters on this subject.
  
  “Enough already.”
  
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  January 6, 2018 11:00am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    You make innocuous and factual observations seem like the crime of the century with your moralising.
    
    I definitely didn’t discuss the news articles and conversations that I had with you with my father so I can post on Kiwiblog and appear holier than thou❗
    
    Just answer me one question Brito – why do organised Jewish groups universally support 3rd world immigration into Western countries yet not into Israel?
    
    Answer on the back of a postcard not dripping wet with sentiment or ad hominems. Just deal in facts as I do.
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:10am
    - Jack5
      
      Nazism and fascism as ideologies are dead and are never coming back, EAD.
      
      The reason Jews have been persecuted for so many centuries is that, first, they are usually a small minority but often a noticeable one because of their business or academic success; second, they are usually a religious minority; third, traditionally they have been usually a linguistic minority with either Hebrew or Yiddish besides the local language; fourth, they are often perceived to be a racial minority.
      
      This makes them the ideal target for conspiracy theorists.
      
      Societies that welcomed and integrated Jews have benefited: the Netherlands and Britain, for example, and now the United States.
      
      EAD, as a side question, what is your view on Masons? Sometimes those with similar opinions to yours on Jews, also talk about an international Jewish-Masonic conspiracy?
      
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      January 6, 2018 11:50am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        The reason Jews have been persecuted for so many centuries………..
        
        This makes them the ideal target for conspiracy theorists.
        
        Jack – you’ve been badly gaslighted.
        
        Jews have not been “persecuted” through the centuries. There have been small “minorities” living amongst other nations but it is only the Jews who have been expelled from 109 different countries for their behaviour.
        
        Being kicked out of countries for your behaviour is hardly “persecution” now is it?
        
        What is “conspiracy” about what I’ve pointed out above. It is all “fact” – It is you with your “persecution” thesis that is the conspiracy theorist❗
        
        Sleep well my friend – 21 degrees down south tomorrow.
        
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        January 6, 2018 9:52pm
Maggy Wassilieff

African street gang thugs on the rampage in Melbourne, Thursday night

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-05/teenager-attacked-with-baseball-bat-in-series-of-incidents/9306722

Convicted African street gang member deported back to NZ
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/jailed-african-street-gang-thugs-waiting-to-be-deported/news-story/621a37dbaae05759b334784930ffaa1c
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January 6, 2018 10:55am
- Longknives
  
  Yep- And Labour/Greens are promising to bring thousands more Africans to New Zealand in the next few years..(Jacinda really,really wants that job at the United Nations)
  God fucking help us!
  
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  January 6, 2018 11:02am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    It’s the housing surplus that we have that’s behind the plan to Continually increase refugee numbers
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:46am
  - Jack5
    
    It’s appalling that persecuted Christians seem to be ruled out of consideration for our refugee quota.
    
    For example, they have been persecuted as heavily and as long in Burma-Myanmar as the Muslims have, but you can bet any refugees from there will be Muslims.
    
    Similarly, in the Middle East, where Christians seem to be shut out of the official refugee scheme. (This has been pointed out by NZ Catholic journalist Pat McCarthy, who is familiar with the region – link follows.)
    
    https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2017/03/20/iraqs-christian-refugees-face-double-discrimination/
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:56am
  - flipper
    
    Give it to her (with Peters as her drunken, but guiding spirit) quick, before she fucks up our well performing little economy…. and Nation.
    
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    January 6, 2018 12:40pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  These level of violence of these Negroes running amok in Melbourne is staggering. It makes Arabs look like pussycats. The problem with the Africans is that their low IQ falls right at the bottom of the sweet spot for violent street crime of between 70-90.
  
  Too dumb to realise that crime is a bad long term gambit, too dumb to have any real prospects in a modern technologised society, but just smart enough to carry out a planned mugging.
  
  You will find that the Sub Saharan ave. IQ is 75.. and that even when hybridised with whites they climb to 85 IQ….. that is why black communities the world over (whether Rinkeby Sweden, Melbourne Chicago, Detroit, Paris, North London, Johannesburg…anywhere you care to look) are violent no go zones.
  
  Of course the low life’s will be one here to tell me it is always because of “wayyyyyycismmmmm”…….
  
  pull the other one.
  
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  January 6, 2018 11:04am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    It is one thing to have low IQ, but this “sweet spot for violent street crime” suggests a lack of empathy.
    Is empathy correlated with IQ?
    
    Is it possible to be less intelligent and yet non-violent?
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:11am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Is it possible to be less intelligent and yet non-violent?
      
      Yes, of course.
      
      EAD_2 is on his bandwagon of race/IQ…
      Neither concept (race or IQ) have much to recommend them.
      
      The problem of Melbourne’s African youth gangs seems to be more to do with lack of jobs, failure of families to encourage their kids to engage in school studies, failure of authorities to acknowledge that there was a criminal element in Melbourne’s Sudanese community.
      
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      January 6, 2018 11:28am
      - doggone7
        
        I like how white people are so intelligent in the way they go about murdering. They usually don’t just ‘run amok’ and go on ‘rampages’.
        
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        January 6, 2018 11:44am
      - cmm
        
        “The problem of Melbourne’s African youth gangs seems to be more to do with lack of jobs…”
        
        Playing the victim card is just shirking responsibility. There are heaps of jobs, but they are not interested in the jobs they are capable of doing.
        
        It is far easier to just guilt whitey into giving you a huge dole and you don’t have to do anything.
        
        No doubt there’s also a huge push back against succeeding in any way because that’s “acting white”.
        
        Race/IQ correlation is as real as race/height, race/running ability and other attributes that vary according to race. It is just a matter of adaptation.
        
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        January 6, 2018 12:15pm
      - GoVege
        
        That’s true dogonne7. …that’s why Hitler had to put his concentration camps out in the sticks and mainly in other countries.
        Sensitive Germans would have been very upset at what he was doing.
        He even had to deal with letters from his commanders complaining about how the troops didn’t like shooting civilians.
        Not a problem in places like Rwanda half a century later.
        My theory is that people who kill their own animal food get desensitized and have less qualms about killing other humans.
        
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        January 6, 2018 5:06pm
      - GoVege
        
        Maggie: Failure of non-white males to set a good example to their sons. …or even stick around.
        We have a similar problem here in NZ.
        Males from chauvinist cultures who think they can get as many women as they like pregnant and not bother to support their kids.
        Their kids feature in stats for violent crimes and victims of crime.
        Funny how we are happy to pay to support the abandoned kids, but make no attempt to make these creeps man up to their responsibilities.
        Yet if someone takes a few too many shellfish or drops a piece of litter or lets their harmless dog play on a beach, we are happy to pay some official to police that and have the “offenders ” dragged to court.
        
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        January 6, 2018 5:19pm
      - Longknives
        
        Go Vege- Hitler was a Vegetarian who was big on Animal Welfare..
        
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        January 6, 2018 5:20pm
      - GoVege
        
        Longknives: that’s b/s.
        Hitler only became a vegetarian at the end for health reasons ONLY.
        The only animal he gave a fig about was his own dog…just like heaps of other mass murderers.
        
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        January 6, 2018 5:28pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Here you GoVege. Add a few more lentils if not to taste! 🙂
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnU0JE1GpsM
        
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        January 6, 2018 5:34pm
      - Gulag1917
        
        African youths often have bad attitudes and the most frequent word they use is racist, that is one good reason they are unemployed in their droves.
        
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        January 7, 2018 1:38pm
- stephieboy
  
  MW, you seem to have an obsession about Africans in Melbourne unlike the problems we have here e.g,
  
  “Whangarei gang violence linked to growing methamphetamine ”
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/89729534/whangarei-gang-violence-linked-to-growing-methamphetamine-trade
  
  Why could that be ?
  
  BTW you a Bell Curve Believer ?
  
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  January 6, 2018 12:28pm
Chuck Bird

DG, this is something you may prefer to comment on.

https://gopthedailydose.com/2015/01/10/sharia-law-in-america-colorado-public-school-forces-girls-to-follow-islamic-dress-code-on-a-school-field-trip-to-a-mosque/
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January 6, 2018 10:57am
- David Garrett
  
  Chuck: good morning…What could I say, that hasn’t been said already?
  
  When – not if – we get our first instance of Muslim terrorism you can expect me to be VERY noisy again…but by then it will be too late…
  
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  January 6, 2018 11:10am
  - Harriet
    
    I’ll be leading it by facing off against the NZ police with the Pinochet chant, you are more than welcome to join. It’s probably the only thing we could do that would mean ‘real change’…..safety and peace for women and children in other words.
    
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    January 6, 2018 11:31am
  - cmm
    
    DG: Where would you put our beloved Asha Abdille on the terrorist threat scale?
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/88112298/Air-NZ-plane-hijacker-Asha-Abdille-threatens-repeat-action
    
    I would say that terrorism, per se, is not necessarily the only problem.
    
    It is also problematic having people around that are so quick to use violence etc to get their way.
    
    We already have enough warrior genetic material to give us those hassles without having to add more.
    
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    January 6, 2018 12:20pm
    - stephieboy
      
      cmm , spurious and lame stuff . The incident was in 2008 and that is all Islamaphobics have to show as a homegrown terrorist threat .
      
      Pathetic !
      
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      January 6, 2018 12:37pm
    - GoVege
      
      I’d love to know which moron let this psycho into the country.
      And when are they gonna dump her back?
      
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      January 6, 2018 5:22pm
  - G152
    
    Happened.
    The attempt to hijack an Air New Zealand aircraft on an internal flight.
    I don’t know the nationality of the hijacker who tried it on with an international Air New Zealand crew and got a duty free bottle in the head
    
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    January 6, 2018 1:16pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      She was Somaili. And not the brightest one by any measure, thinking a Beech 1900D had the range to get to Australia. Probably not even aware you can buy tickets to get there in these modern places and times.
      
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      January 6, 2018 2:27pm
      - KH
        
        She is a Somali madwoman, well known serial problem in Marlborough. No way a political terrorist. All the same I think the citizenship should be cancelled and escorted out of New Zealand.
        I think the same for anybody. eg. Every Queenstown drunken thug backpacker on the plane in under 24 hours.
        
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        January 6, 2018 2:42pm
- stephieboy
  
  Chuck Bird , also not wearing shoes in a Mosque much like Buddhist and many other religious affiliations .
  
  Note the white students appear to wear their own apparel and nor Hijabs , Burkas etc .
  
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  January 6, 2018 12:33pm
- Kiwi Dave
  
  Is this of any significance?
  
  Bars and clubs impose dress standards on members and guests – so can churches. Girls who didn’t wish to go as part of their religious education could stay behind for alternative instruction. Those who chose to go might very well have concluded that the dress rules were onerous.
  
  If my children attended that school, I would expect them to go and after attending would ask them what they had learned and what they thought of the clothing requirements.
  
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  January 6, 2018 2:22pm
Sofia

Lorde allowed a letter from two professional activists to change her mind about touring in Israel. One of the activists, Justine Sachs, however, says “We don’t want a Jewish state and a Palestinian state, we want a secular state with equal rights for all.”

One assumes the Palestinians do not mind this view – as long as the BDS is all about destroying Israel, they can ignore that Sach’s hope (a secular state with equal rights for all) is also the demise of Islam.

Lorde has been scammed.
Of course she could announce that she has subsequently found her initial decision to be wrong, and follow her own choices, as Ringo Starr apparently intends to.
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January 6, 2018 11:00am
- Digmen1
  
  Justine Sachs (who over she is) should say “I don’t want a Jewish State” (not “we”)
  
  I am sure that most Israelis would prefer to have a Jewish state than a secular hellhole like France or Germany or Sweden are fast becoming.
  
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  January 6, 2018 11:59am
  - KevinH
    
    Lorde’s ignorance of the situation there was exploited by activists claiming to be fans. Consequently Lorde made a poor decision based on a lop sided story that did’nt reflect the situation in Israel.
    Effectively Lorde has taken sides and resides within the palestiian greivance camp thereby alienating herself from the Israeli position.She is now despised in Israel and will find it almost impossible to get an entry visa for touring.
    
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    January 6, 2018 2:01pm
    - Harriet
      
      “If Israel makes Jerusalem the capital the ME will descend into hell.” —– all opposition, circa 1948–2018.
      
      It hasn’t and won’t, and now they have to negotiate as there is nothing remotely lethal left that is stopping them from doing so.
      
      Jerusalem is built on the City of David which is located in East Jerusalem, which then makes the West Bank the ONLY option for the Fakestinians — or Jordan if they’re Palestinians; Jerusalem cannot be the capital of Palestine as it is the capital of Israel…..since long before AD and from now until beyond – that is fact.
      
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      January 6, 2018 3:12pm
      - ztev
        
        Beijing was the capital of China
        1) During the mongol dynasty
        2)During the manchu dynasty
        
        Does that mean those peoples get it back today ?
        
        or does the far longer and more recent time as a Chinese capital count more !
        
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        January 6, 2018 5:13pm
  - Southern Raider
    
    Sachs is a “Jew” who actually hates Jews, has nothing to do with Jewish customs and hates Israel.
    
    She is a fringe radical left product of safe women’s spaces at Auckland Uni
    
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    January 6, 2018 3:15pm
    - ztev
      
      Which country has the largest number of jews EMIGRATING?
      
      Israel , of course. Are they too not ‘your sort of Joos’
      
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      January 6, 2018 5:14pm
- redeye
  
  This worth a listen. If you need a giggle on Saturday arvo.
  http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2018/01/rabbi-who-paid-for-lorde-attack-ad-in-fiery-interview-on-radiolive.html
  
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  January 6, 2018 12:45pm
Digmen1

Sadly, its in black genes.
Whether they are in Africa, or the USA, or in Europe and now Australia.
Violence is their way of life.
They need to stay in Africa for the next thousand years until they wake up.
The world – Europeans and Asians has left them behind.
(Oh I forgot the include Arabs and our local indigenes)
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January 6, 2018 11:08am
- stephieboy
  
  Digmen1 , what is the marker gene or genes other than your racist fantasies ?
  
  At least they have not to date indulged in this kind of large sale violence ,
  
  https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/53562000/jpg/_53562949_001338412-1.jpg
  
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  January 6, 2018 12:40pm
- MCos
  
  “The world – Europeans and Asians has left them behind”
  You can’t be serious.
  There are numerous examples of European & Asian atrocities, slaughter and terrible violence over the last hundred years alone.
  All the most murderous cities in the world are in South America
  
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  January 6, 2018 2:13pm
Harriet

Hhhahahahahah……….National now has to find funding from elsewhere……as the Inner Mongolian Horse Riders Club has been banned!!!!

Mongolia bans horse riding to curb lingering nationalist sentiment.

https://www.xyz.net.au/mongolia-bans-horse-riding-to-curb-lingering-nationalist-sentiment/

XYZ is a pisstake of the ABC. It’s some of the best reading in Aus/NZ. 😎
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January 6, 2018 11:20am
- ztev
  
  Bucket for you !
  
  Inner Mongolia is in China, not Mongolia
  
  hahahahaha
  
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  January 6, 2018 5:17pm
Chuck Bird

Digmen1, I let one of my Mt Eden flats to a black African female. I am not sure what country she came from but she certainly was not violent. Incidentally she was a Christian.
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January 6, 2018 11:21am
- Digmen1
  
  Of course, with everything its never all.
  But just look at the riots int eh USA, and the violence in European street, and all the ethnic wars in Africa, South Sudan, Kenya, Chad, Central African Republic, and the steet crime and murders in South Africa.
  
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  January 6, 2018 11:48am
  - stephieboy
    
    Digmen1 , ethnic wars of large scale violence are not confined to Blacks .
    
    Fact . As we we see in the Middle East and here ,
    
    Kosovo wars
    
    https://www.usnews.com/dbimages/master/8859/FE_DA_090112weisbrode.jpg
    
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    January 6, 2018 12:44pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Digmen1, there is definitely a genetic component that is passed on with some sociopaths and psychopaths. Scott Watson is a good example. However, it is only a component. Say a woman had child and the father was a psychopath who she left and found a good partner. That could mean the evil gene would not be activated.
    
    I have not seen research that this gene is more prevalent in Africans.
    
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    January 6, 2018 1:12pm
Harkman

I almost forgot about this one, so I’ve had a theory for a while the Labour creates laws not for the entire population but for people who don’t vote for them, because they know that they are the only people who will actually follow them, certainly not their constituents. Now this is obviously not a new idea, to state the obvious. But just before Christmas, I traveled over to Eastgate mall (because they had a Paper Plus) which is true Labour country and there was these signs, “No Smoking Within 50 metres of this sign.” Including right next to the sliding entrance doors, and you guessed it, wherever there was one of these signs there was 3-4 of the scumiest people you would ever see smoking next to them, the Mall car park was packed, with what looked like the Nek Minute guy’s grandfather puffing away right in front of the entrance. The Welfare-state has created a loser underclass that is far, far larger than what anyone could imagine and with these people manners are as extinct as the dodo.
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January 6, 2018 11:40am
Odakyu-sen

Do you think our society holds up members of the “loser underclass” as being virtuous because they are labelled as “victims”?

Reward bad behavior and you shall have more of it.
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January 6, 2018 11:44am
Jack5

Whale has an interesting piece about the activist who roped Lorde into the Palestinian camp.

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/01/peek-inside-mind-professional-activist-changed-lordes-mind/#more-355726
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January 6, 2018 12:01pm
- Harkman
  
  I bet you $5 that she is even less intelligent than what she looks ?
  
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  January 6, 2018 12:11pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Harkman , we can safely say the same applies to you ?
    
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    January 6, 2018 12:48pm
    - Harkman
      
      Ha, classic, so funny I almost gave you a thumbs up. I’m waiting with excitement for your 20,000th post, that’ll be a “thumbs down party” like no other.
      
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      January 6, 2018 1:43pm
- kowtow
  
  The singer must be thick as pig shit to be swayed by anything emanating from that commie POS.
  
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  January 6, 2018 1:53pm
cmm

Oes noes, gollywogs!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/100362768/golliwog-dolls-for-sale-at-waiheke-island-tourist-gift-shop-shock-customers
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January 6, 2018 12:02pm
- VicParking
  
  These shocked customers are the same ones who banned Sleeping Beauty from their school libraries because it depicts a sexual assault on a sleeping women.
  
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  January 6, 2018 12:26pm
  - Longknives
    
    Yep- And Dr Seuss books must be banned because Melania Trump wants kids to read them (So in batshite insane Lefty Land he must be a White Supremacist..or something)
    
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    January 6, 2018 2:23pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And Mr Golly, the garage-owner and one of Noddy’s best friends has been banished!
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6359248/Noddy-returns-without-the-golliwogs.html
    
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    January 6, 2018 2:42pm
Morrissey

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
The Inbetweeners spoof ‘The Paedophiles’

A special Saturday treat for our Kiwiblog friends from the team at Daisycutter Sports. You will no doubt recognize several of the Gropers who have appeared in our series….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl1yIm5I2eE

Gropers No. 24 will appear tomorrow, if all goes well.

Jack A. Napes (Editor in Chief)
Hector Stoop (office boy)
Selena Sopwith-Fotherington (“intern”)
Morrissey Breen (researcher)
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January 6, 2018 12:10pm
Ed Snack

I see an interesting little piece of information – ALL of the memo’s that Comey wrote regarding his meetings with Trump were confidential when written – this fact admitted by the current acting chief FOI officer at the FBI David Hardy, and in a sworn deposition. And Comey has admitted under oath that he leaked at least 3 of them to a “friend” in order to undermine Trump.

That’s a federal criminal offence, perhaps at least one of the Clinton cronies will finish up doing significant time in prison. A charge of treason could also possibly be brought against him, and that’s 20 + years…
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January 6, 2018 12:11pm
- Harkman
  
  Comey should be in prison for ignoring the Russian tip-off about the Boston Marathon bombers. Complete negligence.
  
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  January 6, 2018 12:14pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Harkman , not according to this ,
    
    FBI Previous Investigation of Tamerlan Tsarnaev
    
    On 19 April 2013, the FBI confirmed that it had previously investigated the background of Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, stating in a press release that:
    
    The two individuals believed to be responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings have been positively identified as Tamerlan Tsarnaev, now deceased, and Dzhokar Tsarnaev, now in custody. These individuals are brothers and residents of Massachusetts. Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a legal permanent resident and Dzhokar Tsarnaev is a naturalized U.S. citizen.
    
    Once the FBI learned the identities of the two brothers, the FBI reviewed its records and determined that in early 2011, a foreign government asked the FBI for information about Tamerlan Tsarnaev. The request stated that it was based on information that he was a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer, and that he had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the United States for travel to the country’s region to join unspecified underground groups.
    In response to this 2011 request, the FBI checked U.S. government databases and other information to look for such things as derogatory telephone communications, possible use of online sites associated with the promotion of radical activity, associations with other persons of interest, travel history and plans, and education history. The FBI also interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev and family members. The FBI did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign, and those results were provided to the foreign government in the summer of 2011. The FBI requested but did not receive more specific or additional information from the foreign government.
    
    https://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/boston.asp#fbi
    
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    January 6, 2018 12:53pm
    - Harkman
      
      “The FBI did not find any terrorism activity” my case made, thank you again.
      
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      January 6, 2018 1:47pm
- ztev
  
  Sheesh – get some facts man.
  
  NOT ALL.
  ‘Of the seven memos, four are marked classified at the ‘SECRET’or ‘CONFIDENTIAL’ levels,” Grassley wrote, adding that “only three did not contain classified information.”
  
  Richman told Fox News in July that he indeed received four memos from Comey, but said none of them were marked classified…Richman said …. that only the “substance” of one memo, not the physical document, was given to the press. “That was not classified at the time, and remains unclassified,” he said.
  
  Tired of Chasing Clinton , so you are going after Comey are you?
  
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  January 6, 2018 5:24pm
Jack5

While the rest of the world media discusses whether or how much of Michael Wolff’s book on Trump, Fire and Fury, is mere gossip, the Hooerald is way back in the wake reporting its statements as if the book were a legitimate exposé.

Still it’s got an interesting photograph of Mrs Trump. What a breath-taking sculpture Donatello or Michelangelo might have made of her. (You’d need to be gay to stay cool enough to get it right.)

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11970530
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January 6, 2018 12:18pm
- Digmen1
  
  I’m just counting the buttons on Don’s shirt, 1, 2, 3, 4, and Five!
  
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  January 6, 2018 1:14pm
- Longknives
  
  What a class act Melania Trump is! Beautiful, Intelligent and handles herself with dignity at all times..
  She is so far removed from that vile,racist, hate- driven Obama woman that called herself ‘First Lady’..
  
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  January 6, 2018 2:21pm
  - big bruv
    
    That Obama woman was the ugliest first lady of all time.
    
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    January 6, 2018 3:58pm
    - GoVege
      
      What a nasty thing to say Big Bruv!
      Michelle is a beautiful, brilliant, compassionate woman.
      Melania is stunning and dignified, but was obviously chosen as a trophy wife for her narcissistic husband.
      
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      January 6, 2018 5:59pm
    - Johnboy
      
      But the dreadful little spoilt daughters inherited the worst aspects of the parents exceeded only by Chelsea of course! 🙂
      
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      January 6, 2018 6:06pm
  - Morrissey
    
    She’s got a lower IQ than her doppelganger…
    
    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/7f193d65fc67683550d095a7d5b8ab41958213f4/265_155_1106_1380/master/1106.jpg?w=300&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=38410efd308aa7817d45a520e164fc8a
    
    She’s still smarter than that abusive, ignorant, pathetic old septagenarian basket case she’s married to, though.
    
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    January 6, 2018 6:41pm
Morrissey

Why is this fool on the air?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/8666556/BSA-rules-against-Mackay
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January 6, 2018 12:37pm
- Digmen1
  
  Because I like listening to him.
  And I liked Jeremy Clarkson.
  
  Don’t be so PC.
  
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  January 6, 2018 1:10pm
  - Morrissey
    
    It’s not a matter of being “PC”, it’s a matter of whether or not you’re prepared to put up with someone so grievously substandard.
    
    And don’t compare him to Clarkson, who is, despite his character flaws, an intelligent, funny and highly accomplished broadcaster.
    
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    January 6, 2018 2:37pm
Johnboy

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/100352392/car-stolen-for-a-second-time-after-a-home-invasion

ps: the Police forgot to say that they were looking for a fat man of limited intelligence with dark coloured skin and brown curly hair. 🙂
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January 6, 2018 2:06pm
- kowtow
  
  The utterly shit standard of reporting , they call it a burglary , when in fact it is robbery.
  
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  January 6, 2018 2:57pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    What happened to home invasion?
    
    DPF, are you aware your delete function has stopped working?
    
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    January 6, 2018 3:18pm
    - softail 1450
      
      waikatogirl ,the delete and edit buttons have been playing up for about 10 days ,,,,,
      
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      January 6, 2018 3:44pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Yes, I’d noticed. DPF is allowed to have a holiday so there was no real rush. I got sick of the delete not working but worse the edit function is playing up as well.
        
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        January 6, 2018 6:36pm
- Johnboy
  
  Far too many Murri are in jail compared to the rest of us. I suspect the word has gone out to cease reporting ethnicity so the stats can be cleansed under the new regime! 🙂
  
  One has to look after one’s supporters after all, specially when the margins are a tad slim! 🙂
  
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  January 6, 2018 4:45pm
UpandComer

Well, I haven’t been thrown into prison after my efforts yesterday. That’s good. Seriously I respect David letting me highlight the issue given his ancestry. Quite counter intuitive that jewish groups are the primary driver behind the islamification of Europe and even Australia. But that is absolutely clear from the empirical evidence. You have to admire the diabolical nature of their social logic. Bring in hundreds of thousands of Wahabists, say to Australia. Fund mosques etc. But never in your gated community in Vaucluse or Neutral Bay. Then claim anti semitism is rising requiring ruthless anti speech police state laws on everyone. Then say there is no relationship between your policy and ‘anti semitism’. Then say it is ‘anti semitic’ to make that observation. Meanwhile Hannukah has a massive Menorah in Martin Place due to your influence it is anti semitic’ to observe, but ban any institutional displays of crucifixes from official quarters as ‘anti semitic’. Which is also ‘anti semitic’ to observe. Then aggressively say you’re an aggrieved persecuted minority. Why would you do this? Well she culture of critique suggests one thesis. Anyway apologies I won’t bore everyone with this on repeat. Again, I appreciate not getting permanent banned for saying the worst kind of gas lot wrong think. But it really, really pisses me off that these bastards are trying to bring the boats back to Australia and destroy speech and then claim cringing minority status when they’re rich and powerful ethnocentric magnates, when ASIO already reports Quants and Air New Zealand flights could get blown up at any time.

The takeway from the Woolf book seems to be Trump is a big fat idiot who tried to lose and the DNC still lost. How they managed to lose despite fighting a candidate trying to lose, with no money, and apparently wth dementia per the author (he’s going to get nailed for defamation for that) escapes them.

Meanwhile in Canada:
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/breaking-canada-wont-fund-student-summer-jobs-unless-employers-demonstrate
Getting government funding is now predicated upon making a declaration of good think that you support, endorse and will facilitate the mutilation and destruction of children’s hormone, endocrine, and neurological systems and their mental degradation and literal emasculation.

Because if there is one thing we know, it’s child abuse to teach kids about the parables, but it’s of paramount importance to ensure they cut their penises off, replace it with a gaping maw wound they will have to re wound with metal rods their entire lives to prevent sealing, and burn out their natural sex hormones with vast influx of alien sex hormones and neuro transmitters, and to teach them as early as possible about the potentialities of anal masturbation, the utility of cute sex toys, and their ‘self determination’ in having sex with kind adults.

Oh, and also unlimited abortion. Yeah, unlimited abortion up to conception.

Then these sub humans wonder why some individuals on the right just laugh when Muslims beat up transgenders in the street with impunity. It’s all so sad. I really hope Prime Minister Zoolander enjoys his time with Ardern.

I’m sure no one will be looking very closely at what Labour are doing with SAFE Schools (per their manifesto) and similar laws of rank government coercion to perversion.

These poor kids on any given day might think they’re an eagle, or a jet plane, or a mushroom. These non intellectual queers and pedophiles cast into life destroying permanence the innocent but completely unrational, uncognizant blurts of 3 year olds and 8 year olds. Particularly because, of fucking course, if you say anything about the realities of this shit in Canada, you go to prison and get massive fines. Read also the part where they can confiscate children from parents who express bad think about their pedophile agenda. Fuck these fuxking ‘people’. If Ardern tries this shit in NZ, and from their manifesto it looks like they will, let them see what happens.
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January 6, 2018 2:23pm
KH

thats a bit of a rave ‘up and coming’. Maybe go and take a wee nap
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January 6, 2018 2:55pm
- UpandComer
  
  Lol honestly it’s more sardonic with a splash of well deserved acid then angry bleary rant. But you’re right.
  
  But the point is, it’s the gory details that cut through all the self and official censorship. The gory details of transgendering and children’s cognitive formation make it clear it’s child abuse. Acknowledgement of self serving speech codes etc is how you get past them. I laugh at what these Vaucluse inhabitants are up to now.
  
  When you learn about how the gay community are the epicentre and laboratory for terrifying methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus, and their ties to the North American Boy Love Association in NZ and Australia, and what they write on private message boards, and their inculcation of sex indoctrination into all unrelated areas of curricula – math, English, phaycis, chemistry, history etc, and the vacuous asininity of ‘love is love’ and what thee chief people actually say and write, you laugh at them. It’s laughable, even whilst being deadly serious.
  
  But I promise I’ll try and be less of a drag. I’ll dress it up with humour. Hey, look, in Canada they won’t give any govt funding for any business fto employ people that doesn’t support blatant rampant child abuse! Lol, lfmao, haha, craaack up.
  
  Lol the danger is you end up a climate change bore. So I’ll lighten it up. Just facts, less verbiage. But I’m really good at verbiage whether it be here or a court room. I balmost hope I get sued by some gays or Jews one day. Of course most judges in Australia now are both, so yeah I’ll self censor more.
  
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  January 6, 2018 4:03pm
- GoVege
  
  Must be coz he hasn’t got a hot date for tonight. 🙂
  
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  January 6, 2018 6:05pm
big bruv

I’m just watching the cricket show on Sky. They interviewed Kane Williamson about his time during the U19 cricket world cup.
Anyway, during the clip they cut to what I assume is the current team and I was shocked to see that this lot of U19 players look like they are going to perform a fucking rain dance before each game.
The ICC must put a stop to this right now, that stone age bullshit must not be allowed to infest cricket.
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January 6, 2018 3:04pm
- Longknives
  
  Tongue-poking, Googly-eyed ‘Haka’ before a game of cricket??
  No fucking way!
  
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  January 6, 2018 5:28pm
  - MT_Tinman
    
    NZC is ND “led”. Nothing would surprise.
    
    I agree, the ICC must act now to prevent this stoneage farce from happening.
    
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    January 6, 2018 5:34pm
mara

Has anyone here had an even mildly pro-Trump comment published on the stuff web-site comments section? I try it occasionally just for fun.
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January 6, 2018 3:07pm
VicParking

The failing newspapers Liam Dann’s article on a potential trade war between the USA and China is nothing more than another of his rants about Trump. All he has done is lined up a whole lots of anti Trump quotes by various academics and business people to create Trump Administration hit job. The story is dated and full of predictions that have not come true.
Then right at the end, the last sentense it states “This story was first published in March, 2017”.
It seems the real Journalists are still on holiday and the 100 monkeys have RSI.
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January 6, 2018 3:10pm
Manolo

The power of Trump’s tax reform:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/05/apple-tech-companies-to-bring-back-400-billion.html

Technology companies will thrive from the hundreds of billions in cash parked outside the U.S. coming into the country this year, according to one Wall Street firm.

“With the Trump administration and Beltway imposing a 15.5% tax on [repatriated] cash earnings vs. the previous 35% tax rate we expect a surge of overseas cash to come back into the US with large cap tech being the clear beneficiary for 2018 and beyond,” Daniel Ives, head of technology research at GBH Insights, wrote in a note to clients Thursday.

Ives estimates large U.S. technology companies have $550 billion to $600 billion parked overseas. He predicts they will repatriate $300 billion to $400 billion in 2018, with Apple representing $200 billion of that amount.
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January 6, 2018 3:10pm
wreck1080

Are rotoruas council tree employees guilty of manslaughter?

It appears they were warned many times, yet did nothing to fix the problem.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/bay-of-plenty/100370644/150yearold-oak-that-killed-rotorua-woman-was-dangerous-residents-say

If this is the case, i would really like to see them on charges. These council tree people are awful, treading on peoples private property rights and causing massive headaches — and to rub salt into the wound, ratepayers pay their salary!!
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January 6, 2018 3:52pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  Did take note of the mayor – Steve Chadwick?
  
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  January 6, 2018 4:12pm
  - G152
    
    goodness ungracious, a liebor mare..
    Should be a manslaughter case at least.
    And since she’s the mayor she should face the charge.
    Watch nothing happen
    
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    January 7, 2018 10:22am
- kowtow
  
  Not the first time someones’ been killed by council hug a tree neglect/ hide behind an “expert” .
  
  Same thing happened to a guy near Queenstown.
  
  “Question-marks have hung over the health of ageing poplars in the Wakatipu Basin for years.
  
  They were heightened in 2009 when farmer Russell Liggett was killed when a 20m poplar fell on his Toyota Hilux near his home on Lower Shotover Rd.”
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/queenstown/fallen-poplar-not-council’s-fault
  
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  January 6, 2018 4:20pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It is extraordinary how many people think it is appropriate to have large old trees in urban environments.
  I like large old trees and have a few on my property, but I spent the first few months here chopping down (or overseeing the removal) of some that were too close to buildings, fences, brickwork, powerlines and the driveway.
  
  The previous owner planted pohutukawa slap bang along the back fence and put in 2 liquidambar saplings alongside the drive. The pohutukawa were first to go; the liquidambars look lovely, but their growth rate here is astonishing. They’ll be coming down this winter.
  
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  January 6, 2018 4:48pm
  - Johnboy
    
    No sweat Maggy. Give us a call! 🙂
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgaRd4d8hOY
    
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    January 6, 2018 4:57pm
    - nasska
      
      Who would want a woman who couldn’t use a chainsaw? 🙂
      
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      January 6, 2018 5:14pm
      - Johnboy
        
        John Wayne Bobbitt? 🙂
        
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        January 6, 2018 5:25pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Men (or women) with chainsaws always welcome at Dacha Maggles.
      
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      January 6, 2018 5:35pm
      - Johnboy
        
        I’ll bring my big chopper up there tomorrow Maggy if you can give me strict and disciplined directional information! 🙂
        
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        January 6, 2018 6:11pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    I have an aversion to planting trees in the wrong place due to their eventual size. It is amazing how many people tell me not to worry as it will become someone else’s problem. ??
    
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    January 6, 2018 6:50pm
    - Johnboy
      
      It’s amazing how a little sapling can grow into a rampant monster rooting everywhere if it’s encouraged enough. 🙂
      
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      January 6, 2018 7:03pm
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        Have you been looking at that delightful photo of a five year old Trevor Mallard on his first day at school.
        
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        January 6, 2018 9:04pm
      - G152
        
        And look at those Aussie towns surrounded by very large old dry trees and those ‘leafy avenues’ throughout the town.
        The roads in and out lined with trees so if there is a fire there’s nowhere to hide and no way to run to safety
        
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        January 7, 2018 10:26am
- ztev
  
  Employees ?
  
  The council uses tree contractors
  
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  January 6, 2018 5:32pm
  - MT_Tinman
    
    Do the Council not employ those contractors?
    
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    January 6, 2018 5:41pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      And did Penny give approval of their contracts?
      
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      January 6, 2018 6:35pm
- MCos
  
  I seem to remember that a tree toppled over in Cornwall Park and squashed a car or two a while back. Similar concerns were expressed about the identification of trees prone to fall over due to deteriorating condition. As I recall the cost of adequately inspecting every tree on public land would be astronomical and that would go down really well with the taxpayers, ratepayers, if taxes or rates went up . . . . . .
  
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  January 6, 2018 8:54pm
  - lifesgood
    
    The bloody Auckland City Council planted pohutukawas on the verge along my street. Now they are huge, block the sun, crack front walls, drop leaves everywhere and generally make an utter pest of themselves. They grow far too big to be planted on a suburban street. Does anyone know if you can prune a council tree overhanging your property?…without a fine, that is.
    
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    January 6, 2018 9:13pm
    - RF
      
      Wack in couple of dozen of copper nails into the trunk and wait several years….
      
      Problem solved…. eventually
      
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      January 6, 2018 10:52pm
Inandout

The Trump deranged must have their daily dose of anti Trump or else they go into withdrawal. Thank you Sean Hannity for reminding us of this mental condition shown daily by the American MSM and on this site.
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January 6, 2018 4:44pm
- MCos
  
  Is that the same Sean Hannity whose $30mil annual income as an entertainer revolves around defending Trump no matter what?
  
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  January 6, 2018 9:00pm
  - Inandout
    
    Is that you Hillary Foundation?
    
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    January 6, 2018 9:38pm
Manolo

Going after the anti-Trump conspirators:
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/367631-gop-senators-request-criminal-investigation-of-trump-dossier-author

Two Republican senators are asking the Department of Justice to open a criminal investigation into Christopher Steele, the author of a controversial opposition research dossier on President Trump.
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January 6, 2018 5:04pm
- cha
  
  Gagging Fusion GPS by saying transcripts of their evidence are the subject of an investigation, so it would be inappropriate to release them.
  
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  January 6, 2018 5:09pm
UpandComer

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=48kc7gqRzZE

This is really good. Roger Stone interview with Stefan Molyneux. Roger is currently being sued by the Obama NSA, James Clapper, John Brennan, Admiral Rogers on lawfare trumped up charges of Russia collision. He gives a very good gestalt of what is happening. If you want to understand what is happening, watch this interview.
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January 6, 2018 5:11pm
- ztev
  
  Sheesh ..get some facts man
  
  “Fourteen former national security, intelligence, and foreign policy officials recently wrote an amicus brief as part of a lawsuit brought against President Donald Trump’s campaign and Roger Stone, his longtime adviser.
  
  You dont know what amicus brief means , do you?
  
  “The former officials emphasised in the neutral brief that they could not disclose classified information. But their message was clear: The Kremlin uses local actors to help amplify the scope and impact of its influence operations, including the one targeting the US election in 2016.
  https://www.businessinsider.com.au/unusual-russia-brief-lawsuit-trump-roger-stone-2017-12?r=US&IR=T
  
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  January 6, 2018 5:39pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Yeah I misinterpreted it. They just made a statement in the court case brought by the Obama NGO, they weren’t the ones suing.
    
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    January 6, 2018 7:06pm
cha

Isn’t Mexico going to pay for it?

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The Trump administration has told lawmakers that it wants $18 billion over the next decade for the initial phase of a Mexico border wall, laying out for the first time a detailed financial blueprint for the president’s signature campaign promise.

[…]

Though Trump ran for office on a promise that Mexico would pay for a border wall, the spending plan indicates American taxpayers would fund it for at least the foreseeable future.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-border-wall-gets-18-billion-price-tag-in-new-request-to-lawmakers/2018/01/05/34e3c47e-f264-11e7-b3bf-ab90a706e175_story.html?utm_term=.310c5978f5d9
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January 6, 2018 5:36pm
- ztev
  
  Trump doesnt get a vote when doing a roll call in House or Senate.
  
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  January 6, 2018 5:41pm
GoVege

Listen up everybody!
Blueberries are on special…one of the top 10 healthiest foods in the world.
Pick some up at your local supermarket. 🙂
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January 6, 2018 5:53pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  GoVege,
  
  There is nothing in this world like mochi with blueberry cream cheese filling.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99BSumPX_Ew
  
  Texture is everything!
  
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  January 6, 2018 6:07pm
- nasska
  
  Little equals blueberries & cream to finish off a good feed of scotch fillet, bacon & chips. 🙂
  
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  January 6, 2018 6:14pm
  - Johnboy
    
    A good spray of that instant cream with a cherry on top of a mound of venus is the best desert after a fucking good blowout though nasska. 🙂
    
    Odakyu-Sen…texture’s optional. Some prefer slick. Some prefer slighty hirsute! 🙂
    
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    January 6, 2018 6:17pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Johnboy,
      
      Such visual imagery! You are indeed a poet.
      
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      January 6, 2018 6:20pm
      - Johnboy
        
        I’ve always prefered to Haiku my own kireji in life Odakyu-sen. 🙂
        
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        January 6, 2018 6:25pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        I don’t think I’ve ever seen “haiku” used as a verb before…
        
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        January 6, 2018 8:16pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        And who had ever heard of kireji?
        
        Some over-educated chaps on KB, I fear.
        How can a chappess keep up?
        
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        January 6, 2018 8:28pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        “Kireji is the term for a special category of words used in certain types of Japanese traditional poetry.”
        
        Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kireji
        
        That’s a really specialized term. I had to look it up (having been educated in the sciences rather than in classical literature).
        
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        January 6, 2018 8:50pm
    - Harriet
      
      Truth be told………..Johnboy and Nasska would more than likely be eating beef stew and mashed babyfood, with the care workers later offering the residents trifle. Vulgarly reminiscing about youth is often par for the course in these places for the older blokes.
      
      They may still get one up between them both again this year. 😎
      
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      January 6, 2018 6:33pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”They may still get one up between them both again this year.”…..
        
        What are you doing about September Harriet? With our jaded appetites a pre-op crossdresser could be just the thing to get us going. 🙂
        
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        January 6, 2018 6:40pm
      - Harriet
        
        September in NZ……It’ll be warming up by then……can I bring my thongs over…….and my snake? 😎
        
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        January 6, 2018 6:52pm
  - Inandout
    
    Get them while you can in season, but other fruit is just as good.
    
    https://www.nutrition-and-you.com/fruit-nutrition.html
    
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    January 6, 2018 6:27pm
Left Right and Centre

sheesh – tvnz news just full of w-a-a-a-a-y too much *shit* from America.

Who gives a fuck ?
S-o-o-o-o cheap and nasty and *lazy*.
Whatever – fuck them – here’s thirty minutes of US crap *download*.
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January 6, 2018 6:27pm
- nasska
  
  I can forgive America for just about anything other than their crap humour. Whoever invented canned laughter & cued applause should be taken outside & shot with a pellet of their own shit!
  
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  January 6, 2018 6:31pm
  - Johnboy
    
    One shouldn’t be so dismissive of US humour nasska. After all they actually held an election to decide between Trump and Clinton! 🙂
    
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    January 6, 2018 6:35pm
doggone7

Every single day many in NZ have the USA and Trump as their focus – on this forum for example.
People here saying what should happen there, how important the US is to us, how wonderful or terrible Trump is or Clinton is, what the USA should do about N.Korea and so on. It seems plenty give a fuck.
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January 6, 2018 6:37pm
- Johnboy
  
  Thats just because all of us in boring little NZ have come to regard ourselves as global analists since some fuckwit convinced us that we can actualy give a toss above our weight/length old chap! 🙂
  
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  January 6, 2018 6:42pm
- nasska
  
  It takes our minds off the clusterfuck that the Peoples Princess has in store for us. 🙂
  
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  January 6, 2018 6:42pm
  - Johnboy
    
    You’ll be simpering with all the other Womens Weekly readers when her and Gaylord produce a little foal nasska! 🙂
    
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    January 6, 2018 6:44pm
    - nasska
      
      More power to him. I wouldn’t ride her into battle. 🙂
      
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      January 6, 2018 6:46pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Winston did! 🙂
        
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        January 6, 2018 6:47pm
      - Harriet
        
        You can lead a horse to the water tap but you can’t make them drink! 😎
        
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        January 6, 2018 7:12pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Quite so Harriet. They have trouble turning them on with a hoof! 🙂
        
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        January 6, 2018 7:27pm
    - Inandout
      
      Didn’t realise you could get spudded orally?
      
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      January 6, 2018 9:42pm
  - Digmen1
    
    We’ll be able to get back in to that when they decide to go back to work.
    About the same time as TNVZ.
    
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    January 6, 2018 7:01pm
  - doggone7
    
    Clearly it is a matter of wonderment that some consider of those minds can stretch to thinking about two things. Fortunately both brain cells were so busily engaged thinking about the wonders of Trump that they couldn’t come up with any semblance of intelligence about the NZ PM.
    
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    January 6, 2018 8:34pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  It’s not the only other fucking country on planet earth man.
  At least on KB you can be bored witless by every corner of the globe – not just USA.
  
  I think the breakdown would sometimes even favour Middle East / Israel on KB GD – and other places. More variety. Bad example.
  
  Even Japan with Odakyu-sen.
  
  I think it’s more along the lines of – when all of your other TV is American – what the hell – let’s just make all the news really American too. There’s more of their shit than NZ shit – how is that bloody possible ??
  
  I mean come off it mate – it was full of routine American weather shit – oh it’s winter and it’s snowing in America – oh, really ? There’s a soft 2-3 minutes – I mean ffs – **really** ? Bullshit !!
  
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  January 6, 2018 7:34pm
  - nasska
    
    It’s been described as a takeover by the dominant culture LR&C. It used to be Britain……now the crap’s from the USA but it isn’t an improvement.
    
    Witness the brain dead South Auckland adherents of Yank gangster shit. Wearing a baseball cap backwards with their pants halfway down their arses in deference to LA street scum says it all!
    
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    January 6, 2018 7:46pm
waikatogirl

Does our PM Select need to make a PM visit to support the local disaster at the village of Kaiawa on the Firth of Thames, as the whole village flooded yesterday by the storm surge? It looks to be a bit of a mess. The Thames Highway has been eaten away by the storm as well and will take weeks before it is open again.

Is Cindy still on holiday? I expect so as extended holiday time was acceptable when in opposition.
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January 6, 2018 6:41pm
Digmen1

Not many brown school children in Thames?
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January 6, 2018 7:02pm
- Johnboy
  
  The bloody place is full of them old chap. Those that were born white soon turned brown from their parents cannabis fumes! 🙂
  
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  January 6, 2018 7:07pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    I expect she could call up an airforce helicopter for a flyover that the msm could report to the masses. Landing and talking to those affected would require extra time away from her summer hols.
    
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    January 6, 2018 7:11pm
    - nasska
      
      A flyover & a sprinkling of fairy dust gently dispersed with unicorn farts is all that will be required to let Coromandel’s healing begin.
      
      Look what it did for poverdy!
      
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      January 6, 2018 7:15pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Once a couple of million of Shanes trees grow over the devastated infrastructure the COL government will be awarded the Gore medal for meritorious service to Gaia! 🙂
        
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        January 6, 2018 7:25pm
Left Right and Centre

I think it’s so wonderful that the entire cast of Slumdog Millionaire were able to continue on living the dream – employed at my nearest paknsave.

We all love fairytale endings.
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January 6, 2018 9:49pm
Digmen1

No, they are all at my local Countdown!
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January 6, 2018 11:06pm
Manolo

Always ready to cash on anything:
http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/01/04/al-gore-bitter-cold-is-exactly-what-we-should-expect-from-the-climate-crisis/

Former Vice President Al Gore has weighed in on the record cold and snow in the U.S. “It’s bitter cold in parts of the US, but climate scientist Dr. Michael Mann explains that’s exactly what we should expect from the climate crisis,” Gore wrote on January 4 on Twitter.

Gore linked to one of his organizations’ articles on the brutal winter weather written by Climategate professor Michael Mann: The Climate Reality Project: A ‘PERFECT STORM’: EXTREME WINTER WEATHER, BITTER COLD, AND CLIMATE CHANGE
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January 7, 2018 7:06am
Gulag1917

Deaths of despair: Millennials turn to drugs, suicide in unforgiving job market
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/apr/19/deaths-of-despair-stalk-millennials-in-unforgiving/
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