General Debate 2 January 2018

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Captain Mainwaring

Great effort by Munro before the rains came.
Looks like the weather will be even worse on Friday so that’s the end of the T20 series.
Guptill’s a bit of a worry though. How many more chances does he get?
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January 2, 2018 8:47am
waikatogirl

Morning Captain. That time of year when you finally have time to watch the cricket only for it to be rained out!

I’m loving the rain as we needed it up here.
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January 2, 2018 8:51am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Still waiting for it here in the Hutt Valley. Hopefully arriving Thursday afternoon. In the meantime we look forward to 3 days with 28C, stuff-all wind and high humidity.
  
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  January 2, 2018 8:58am
  - waikatogirl
    
    No wind up here to blow the rain further south so it will be a slow trundle across the country to you. Expecting 26º here so it’s going to be a good Waikato sauna this afternoon. ?
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:04am
    - ztev
      
      Taupo is expecting something like 35- 40mm over 4 hrs tonight
      
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      January 2, 2018 9:20am
      - flipper
        
        Must be global warming because zetev duck doesn’t know the difference between climate and weather. Back to your pond silly duckling…..
        
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        January 2, 2018 9:27am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        So flipper, are you a penguin? 😉
        
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        January 2, 2018 10:24am
  - RalphT
    
    Hopefully arriving Thursday afternoon? I hope you don’t mean in time to bugger up the match on Saturday against the Pakistanis. Our first real competition this summer.
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:15am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Oh, I forgot about the Pakistan match.
      Yes, sorry to report that the Saturday forecast is for strong southerlies and lots of rain.
      What’s bad for the cricket is good for the garden.
      
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      January 2, 2018 9:20am
      - RalphT
        
        It seems, Captain, that our talk of the Pakistan cricket team has upset someone. Either that or some grumpy bugger just feels like down ticking everything, no matter the content.
        
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        January 2, 2018 10:34am
    - kowtow
      
      The Trump V Pakistan stoush is the one to watch.
      
      He says it like it is.
      
      ‘President Donald Trump has accused Pakistan of lying and deceiving the United States while receiving billions of dollars in foreign aid.
      
      In his first tweet of the year, he also alleged that Pakistan harboured terrorists sought by US forces.’
      
      http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42536209
      
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      January 2, 2018 9:59am
      - Brigitte
        
        Trump vs Pakistan???? I know he’s called The Don but I would still persist with Guptill as opener to be honest.
        
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        January 2, 2018 10:34am
      - stephieboy
        
        kowtow, solved by a formal state visit by the President and First Lady !
        
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        January 2, 2018 10:46am
  - Prince
    
    Has been glorious weather in Wellington, except for farmers, for 6 weeks now.
    Had to laugh at some ex-cricketer Styris on Sunday complaining about the Basin being ‘overcast’ for the game.
    Meanwhile, yet another game washed out in up north yesterday.
    
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    January 2, 2018 10:17am
- MrLovebucket
  
  I tried listening to cricket on the radio once.
  
  I couldn’t see the appeal….
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:44am
  - Dave Stringer
    
    Did you ask for an instant resay?
    
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    January 2, 2018 10:29am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    V clever MrLovebucket – I lol’d
    
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    January 2, 2018 10:50am
  - MCos
    
    That’s a bit like saying you had some one minute noodles once and don’t understand the appeal of Thai cuisine
    
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    January 2, 2018 11:04am
    - Lance
      
      Whoosh..
      
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      January 2, 2018 4:50pm
- JIV
  
  With no rain, does anyone know if I should keep the grass short or let it go?
  
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  January 2, 2018 12:13pm
  - holysheet
    
    with no rain the grass isn’t going to be growing much. Let it go.
    
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    January 2, 2018 12:27pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Don’t keep the grass short… this exposes the soil to more solar radiation and drying wind.
    
    Mow less during dry weather and put your mower on a higher setting.
    
    Leave the grass clippings to act as a mulch.
    
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    January 2, 2018 1:49pm
Captain Mainwaring

Something funny’s happening DPF, I was able to uptick my own comment.
At least I could cancel out the phantom downticker.
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January 2, 2018 9:00am
Nukuleka

Talking to a friend over from Saudi Arabia for Christmas. He lives on a compound that, fortunately for him, he doesn’t have to leave, and he would be the first to admit that he is there only to set himself up for an early retirement. He describes the attitude of Saudis to the Filipinos, Indians and even Muslim Pakistani workers as horrific- not only are they treated as little more than animals but the facilities that this rich country provides for these people are beneath primitive levels. All in contrast, of course, to the lavish lifestyle led by the King and those of his family who are still in favour. Of course, even those out of favour are being housed in Riyadh’s Ritz-Carlton Hotel, it would seem.

And we toady to such people’s medieval ideology by killing our animals according to their medieval halal rites. Shameful.
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January 2, 2018 9:01am
- KKKKatee
  
  Not to mention the abuse of vulnerable children so that the Saudi’s can indulge in camel racing. Of course, the slave kids they use, are not Saudi’s. Oh no, these kids are smuggled from India and Pakistan etc. Some are as young as 2 years old.
  This is an appalling abuse of vulnerable children whose poor parents are do desperate for money they’ll sell their kids for as little as US$3. Meanwhile, the rich, fat Saudi’s enjoy camel racing and don’t actually give a fat rat’s arse about the kids.
  I have grandchildren, the youngest being 20 months old and when I look at these small kids I give thanks that they are not brought up in an abusive environment and will actually go on to lead good, productive lives. Not hearing anything from the UN about this appalling child abuse.
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:12am
  - igm
    
    Dyke’s disciple will offer them homes here. Cannot wait till the supporters of this unelected leader are tossed out of their state houses to make way for followers of Islam.
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:23am
  - Lance
    
    Most of the ME high profile states (Dubai, Abu Dhabi etc) use little robot jockeys in camel racing now after the growing concern. Not sure about Saudi though?
    
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    January 2, 2018 4:55pm
- Inandout
  
  The early slave traders in Africa were Arabs and they regarded Negroes of the time as rubbish. It looks as though their attitude to dark people hasn’t changed at all. Perhaps that is why Obama was seen as weak by Arabs.
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:39am
  - stephieboy
    
    Typical alt right unreason . Europeans were up to the hilt in the salve trade .
    
    Fact !
    
    Obama weak with Arabs ? Trump and the First lady state visit to Saudi Arabia ?
    
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    January 2, 2018 12:29pm
    - Kiwi Dave
      
      Europeans were up to the hilt in the salve trade.
      
      Of course we were; those of us with fair skins exposed to sunny weather gratefully use a variety of salves.
      
      Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, Europeans, like many others, were involved in slavery, but also, unlike many others, in its eradication. Perhaps you could ask yourself when and why slavery ended in this country.
      
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      January 2, 2018 2:29pm
    - Brito
      
      And this is…Scotch mist I guess, or does the left typically ignore those who were the principal traders and buyers? Bit like the musket wars…can’t mention those or the slave trade that went on here.
      
      http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Barbary-Pirates-English-Slaves/
      
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      January 2, 2018 2:50pm
    - Brito
      
      And how about this one… you are a denier and that makes you dangerous…
      
      https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ppzevg/hey-v12n5
      
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      January 2, 2018 2:54pm
Digmen1

Yes I am always surprised by the fact that some Arab countries are filthy rich with modern cities etc and no wars. Saudi Arabia, Oman, Dubhai,
Others are sectarian hellholes. Iraq, Syria, Libya.
Others are in the middle Egypt, Turkey, Iran etc

I suppose it will still the same in 1,000 years.
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January 2, 2018 9:11am
- ztev
  
  Saudi Arabia -no wars. ?
  What are those ballistic missiles coming from Yemen then. Of course the Saudis deny everything, but in a clear blue sky the evidence is plain to see
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:26am
  - flipper
    
    A void between zetev duck’s ears …. again !
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:30am
    - sooty
      
      You’r back ztev!
      
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      January 2, 2018 10:03am
  - stephieboy
    
    ztev, Russia and the Saudis sign an arms deal S400 air missile defence system ,
    
    http://www.euronews.com/2017/10/06/saudi-arabia-and-russia-sign-arms-deal
    
    Ho hum !
    
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    January 2, 2018 10:42am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Most of those countries you quote are not Arab, but they are Muslim. Therein lies the problem – Islam.
  
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  January 2, 2018 10:31am
  - stephieboy
    
    Don the Kiwi , your New Years resolution is to see Islam banned and eradicated ?
    
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    January 2, 2018 10:39am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Where did I say that?
      I don’t make New Year’s resolutions because I always exceed them by many times.
      Islam is welcome in the countries where it is their culture, but, as demonstrated by the invasion of Europe and terror attacks by muslims around the globe, they should not be welcomed here.
      If we need refugees from these countries, let them be the persecuted Christians, Bahai, Yasisdis and other minority groups whose lives are made hell by the followers of the paedophile prophet.
      
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      January 2, 2018 11:07am
      - stephieboy
        
        What invasion of Europe ? All Muslims terrorising ?
        
        Why should anyone not be welcomed if they have not committed a crime or acts of terror ?
        
        Your thick !
        
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        January 2, 2018 12:33pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        My thick what? Finish your sentences.
        
        As for blindness and inability to see problems where they exist, you’re a dork.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t_KDGqOmE
        
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        January 2, 2018 12:47pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        You’re thick Stephie! ??
        
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        January 2, 2018 5:41pm
    - Nukuleka
      
      Makes a change from those like Trev the Duck who wants to ban Christianity.
      
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      January 2, 2018 1:06pm
    - Brito
      
      I agree with you stephieboy, all muslims should be banned and sent home immediately. Best thing you’ve said all year.
      
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      January 2, 2018 2:56pm
- KevOB
  
  Saudi are taking out Yemen. Qatar is in the firing line too as it has a half share in an oil field with Iran.
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:16am
KKKKatee

So a young girl gets her boobs covered in glitter paint, walks through the crowds at the Rhythm n Vine festival and wonders why a bloke rushes up and grabs them. Ok, ok, so it’s her right to paint her boobs, walk through crowds and not expect to get groped I hear you saying. And blokes should keep their hands to themselves in such situations.
But my guess is that there were plenty of stoned/boozed people at this festival and anything goes right? I mean, the concert goers aren’t just sitting there sipping Earl Grey tea and eating cucumber sandwiches right? I don’t have any sympathy for her and her antics. She got the groper back by smacking him around head 4 times and her girlfriend poured her drink over him so I guess all’s fair in love and war!! I rest my case.
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January 2, 2018 9:21am
- JibberJabber
  
  Keep your hands to yourself, even in the 21st Century, how fucking hard is that to understand?
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:31am
  - Inandout
    
    Have you not heard of sexual emergencies? Let me introduce you to Abdul.
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:41am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Love it!
      
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      January 2, 2018 10:01am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Love this?
      
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      January 2, 2018 10:02am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Kinda surprised we have so many Muslim apologists here, she had her tits out so she was asking for it.
      
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      January 2, 2018 10:55am
  - KevOB
    
    Provocation gets as provocation expects.
    
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    January 2, 2018 11:19am
- Debbie
  
  Totally agree with you Katee, why on earth would any girl walk around a bunch of drunken men with her tits out if she wasn’t actually looking for attention?
  
  Not to mention, if she was so upset about him touching her breast, it was a bit of an own-goal swinging them in his face whilst hitting him ?
  
  Interesting how the herald is deleting any comments that point out the obvious though, on their fb feed. Almost as if they’re trying to convince the general public that “popular” opinion is its perfectly acceptable to walk around half-naked and any man who notices should be branded a rapist. Social conditioning in real time.
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:36am
  - Rich Prick
    
    #MeToo, perhaps.
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:41am
    - holysheet
      
      Not the first
      
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4628952/GLITTER-BOOBS-biggest-trend-Glastonbury.html
      
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      January 2, 2018 2:05pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Just imagine if a bloke dipped his apparatus in the glitter paint pot and strolled through the crowd. Someone would surely give it a tug/pat just because. But blokes don’t paint their bits and parade them around as far as I’m aware. While I’m not defending the actions of the groper in any shape or form, you silly young girlies attract that sort of behaviour when you go around swinging your sparkly boobies. There will always be a drunk groper in the midst unfortunately.
    I loved it that her boobs were swinging around his head! Laughed at that. How unfortunate for the sparkly booby swinger that she was caught on camera. On the other hand, she could well be lapping up her few minutes of fame (for all the wrong reasons of course).
    
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    January 2, 2018 10:12am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Probably should keep ur fantasies to yourself Katie.
      
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      January 2, 2018 10:57am
      - KKKKatee
        
        Well, anything’s possible and I for one, would never, ever lay my delicate wee hands on a strangers’ appendage – painted or otherwise. I’m merely pointing out what’s good for the goose senario here. And it’s not a fantasy of mine either. If young women are going to ‘expose’ themselves publicly then they only have themselves to blame imo. Especially at concerts such as Rhythm n Vines……..
        Waiting for the howls of rage from SJW’s because I don’t have any sympathy for stupid young girlies….
        
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        January 2, 2018 11:12am
    - lifesgood
      
      Why on earth did she do it? Probably hoping that men would look and admire. It is rubbish that men get the blame all the time for falling for the antics of little tarts.
      
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      January 2, 2018 2:31pm
      - holysheet
        
        It’s all about her feelz, only the men also wanted to cop a feelz. We need to be posadive about this.
        
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        January 2, 2018 3:08pm
    - Northland Wahine
      
      Oh for gods sake, I’m sure glitter tits would have thought it would be disgusting if some old dude walked around with his penis dipped in paint for the crowd to see. But because she’s young and perky she thinks everyone wants to see her nipples.
      
      Hope the bloody things got sunburned.
      
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      January 2, 2018 4:44pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        oooooooooooh!!!
        
        Don’t give the old buggas ideas.
        
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        January 2, 2018 5:44pm
    - Debbie
      
      I see she’s now demanding a public apology via the media:
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11968585
      
      Think she may want to reflect further on the fact that she was filmed quite clearly assaulting a man. And no, it wasn’t self defence by any legal definition: she chased him, he was already sitting down and posed no threat to her at all by the time she attacked him.
      
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      January 2, 2018 6:55pm
    - GoVege
      
      Boobs are not the same as those other “bits”.
      It gets helluva hot covering them up all the time, and she did disguise them under glitter.
      
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      January 2, 2018 7:56pm
      - Northland Wahine
        
        Of course having glitter on them makes all the difference.
        
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        January 2, 2018 8:05pm
  - Komata
    
    FWIW: The article also indicates that the young woman is American. Not sure if that is relevant, but observation over many years would seem to indicate that young american females abroad can be both extremely niave, extremely vocal and to hold to the opinion that it is their ‘RIGHT’ to do whatever they want to in someone else’s country, completely (and seemingly deliberately) ignoring the possiblity that their behaviour might not actually be acceptable in the country in which they now reside. This young woman would seem to be one of that persuasion. It may or may not be relevant to the situation, but submitted for what it is worth.
    
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    January 2, 2018 10:37am
    - Huevon
      
      This is a quality of many Americans abroad, not just young female ones. Exhibit A: efforts of many US administration to bomb democracy in to various Islamic shitholes.
      
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      January 2, 2018 10:52am
      - Flash
        
        Remember ‘The Ugly American’?
        Very famous book of the ’60’s.
        
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        January 2, 2018 8:50pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      Agree. And this particular young Yank is a loud mouth. And no, I don’t want to see anyone’s boobs swinging in the sunlight at a public concert. Keep them tucked in girlies.
      
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      January 2, 2018 11:17am
      - KevOB
        
        Perhaps she should have been arrested for lewd exhibitionism.
        
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        January 2, 2018 11:22am
      - holysheet
        
        She will make the perfect candidate for the green pardy then? They already have one load mouth yank there and she is a minister in the drunken dwarfs govt. Whats one more import?
        
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        January 2, 2018 11:47am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Thought he just tapped her on the arse?
    
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    January 2, 2018 8:22pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Not branded a rapist, fgs, people should respect others personal space. If we weren’t so precious about woman’s boobs in the first place the sight of them wouldn’t be such a ‘thing’.
    
    My personal opinion is women should be able to bare their breasts in public if they want, men with moobs do. I am sure there were more women than her and her boyfriends sister that had it done, there was a stall after all.
    
    I also think that as it was at a festival that there was even more licence to do it. Were there signs telling women to not go topless? Reminds me of all the outrage about the girls on bikes at Hamilton Boys High. You are not going to get those females in a Burqa any time soon and I am all for that.
    
    As for you old pervs I hope that it gladdened your day, and of course glitter makes everything better.
    
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    January 3, 2018 10:22am
- mara
  
  Rather than glitter, her boobs would have been better served tucked into a supportive, underwired bra. Yikes!
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:38am
  - Komata
    
    mara
    
    A ‘Bra’!! really? She (and her friend) are both so ‘liberated’ that they think they can do whatever they want whenever they want; it’s all about ‘THEM” don’t y’know. To such people a ‘Bra’ is so last week (although when ‘Cooper’s Droop’ finally arrives, their tune may change just a little…
    
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    January 2, 2018 11:17am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Plenty of time for that.
    
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    January 3, 2018 10:22am
- cmm
  
  A bit precious…..
  
  I’m sure women wouldn’t ever stoop to this sort of behaviour.
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3730102/Good-news-ladies-oiled-Tongan-athlete-internet-sensation-SINGLE-busy-competing-right-now.html
  
  Imagine the outrage if a male “celebrity” talked about a vagina cake…. but https://www.instagram.com/p/BcQN_P9nA7x/
  
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  January 2, 2018 10:58am
  - holysheet
    
    That explains a lot. If she thinks that looks like a penis, no wonder she fits in so well at tvnz.
    
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    January 2, 2018 12:32pm
- VicParking
  
  Sexism, equality of the sexes. Why is it that you can show off your male boobs/nipples but if you are a women they have to be blurred or at blank rectangle placed over them. To be equal its either got to be open slather on breasts or black rectangles for all. Now that who is who has become so blurred, a person with 36D’s could be identifying as a male and would be upset to be rectangled. Contra to that I identify as a LGBTS so if I get snapped topless I would demand a black rectangle.
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:02am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  By now men should know to keep their hands to themselves. There are however a number who continue to disappoint and should face the full force of the law.
  By now women should know that you catch fewer fish if you remove the bait from your hook.
  The cheap tart needs to keep her clothes on.
  
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  January 2, 2018 3:51pm
I've been to Mecca and you have not!

I’m going to the Chatham Islands for a few days.

Any advice?

🙂
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January 2, 2018 9:23am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Don’t go snorkeling. The Great Whites endemic to that area are a sub species that hunt in pairs.
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:30am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Put your watch forward by 45 minutes and your lifestyle back by 45 years.
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:36am
- Rich Prick
  
  Crayfish. And beer. That is all the advice I have to give. Oh, and take a parachute if you’re flying on the old Convair.
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:36am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Yep, it’s appropriate to fly to a place that’s 45 years behind the times in a 65 year old plane.
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:47am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Get a feed from the boys up at Kāingaroa.
  
  Check out Kopinga Marae
  https://www.moriori.co.nz/home/kopinga-marae/
  
  Check out the incredible landscape at Point Weeding (take the Tikitiki Hill road behind Waitangi – then walk over the paddock)
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:09am
  - stephieboy
    
    M W , our landscape is endlessly beautiful and a goldmine for artists and painters .
    
    I think how artists here in Auckland have used the wild west coast to create magnificent paintings .
    
    http://solandergallery.co.nz/files/prints/Harataonga.jpg
    
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    January 2, 2018 11:14am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Good heavens – a sensible comment from stephieboy – New Year’s resolution perhaps?
      
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      January 2, 2018 11:19am
      - stephieboy
        
        Don the Kiwi , unlike your for example tedious anti Muslim whinging !
        
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        January 2, 2018 11:20am
Happychappy

I see Grant Robertson is Minister of sport now to go with his Finance Portfollio so I wonder how sportsmen and woman will feel about him frequenting their dressing rooms after big events.
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January 2, 2018 9:37am
- Gabby
  
  I don’t think he does crappy threeway handshakes chappy.
  
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  January 2, 2018 1:23pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Did you just get out bed scabby.
    
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    January 2, 2018 2:15pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Did someone say “threeway”??!!?!?!?
    
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/27/17/41CF51C900000578-4644242-image-a-2_1498579495314.jpg
    
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    January 2, 2018 3:40pm
- lifesgood
  
  Good grief! A fat, flabby, self indulged, slob is Minister of Sport…it defies common sense!
  
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  January 2, 2018 2:34pm
- big bruv
  
  “I see Grant Robertson is Minister of sport now to go with his Finance Portfollio”
  
  And will we see Alf remain as shy to be seen in public with creepy Robertson as he has in the past. Mind you, I suspect Alf is as excited as creepy Robertson is at the prospect of getting in to see ‘the boys’ after the match.
  
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  January 2, 2018 5:55pm
- Viking2
  
  Sure that the real Trev can give him some tips. ask the girls teams of old.
  
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  January 2, 2018 6:37pm
Digmen1

I see Oriwa Glassie wants to keep her baby.

What has she been doing for the last few years?

Working as a nurse, or a policeman, or a cleaner, or factory worker – something productive.

Who is the father?
Has he no shame?

Why does she want to keep her baby?
Is it so she can go or stay on a benefit so we can all pay her for life style for the rest of her life?
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January 2, 2018 9:43am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “What has she been doing for the last few years?”
  
  Making babies. This is the fourth one since Mia was killed. The others have all been rightfully taken off her.
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:49am
  - Rich Prick
    
    They’re replaceable if you happen to break one.
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:55am
  - Digmen1
    
    If they have been taken off her, who is paying for the babies?
    Some loving kind adoptive parents
    Or some govt paid foster parent.
    
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    January 2, 2018 10:15am
    - Northland Wahine
      
      Foster parents can be loving too…
      
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      January 2, 2018 8:34pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Nia Glassie.
    
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    January 2, 2018 8:26pm
- holysheet
  
  Oh dear, so many questions.
  What about having her tubes tied so as not to have anymore?
  
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  January 2, 2018 9:52am
  - Brito
    
    Her tubes should only be tied if you can streeeetch them up and around her neck.
    
    Only thing to do with a behemoth battleship like this…
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KecIdlEAKhU
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:57am
  - Digmen1
    
    We should have done that after the first one!
    
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    January 2, 2018 10:15am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Easier said than done. Consider: police officers manhandle a screaming, struggling woman into a medical facility and hold her down while medical staff forcibly anaesthetise her, and then a doctor carries out invasive surgery which she has made it clear she does not want, observed and reported by media formal and informal, national and international.
    
    What politician is going to sanction that? What medical professionals are going to cooperate?
    
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    January 2, 2018 11:06am
    - MT_Tinman
      
      Why medical professionals?
      
      Surely in this case a bloody great cork, installed by a bloody great blacksmith with a mallet would be a better fit.
      
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      January 2, 2018 1:27pm
    - Lance
      
      No such drama.
      Just offer a carton of fags, a big bag of dack and a slab of Lion Red if she willingly gets it done.
      
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      January 2, 2018 5:04pm
  - lifesgood
    
    At the very least the long term injection every few months. What an insane society we live in when someone like her is allowed to keep producing children that the tax payer then has to fund. It is not her right to have kids…she lost that right.
    
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    January 2, 2018 2:40pm
    - GoVege
      
      If they gave her (and hundreds of others) a $500 grocery voucher or cash payment every time she turned up for that injection, it would be a bargain for us all.
      If they can pay people not to smoke, surely they can pay them not to bring babies into the world to a life of neglect and abuse?
      
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      January 2, 2018 4:30pm
- KKKKatee
  
  She has no other way of earning an income….
  She’s completely stuffed – God knows how you even start to de-programme severely abused people like her. I hope she gets the message that Social Welfare will keep on taking the babies off her.
  At least they have as chance of doing ok despite their mongrel breeding…..
  Realistically, she’s got another close to 20 years of making babies……
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:26am
- GoVege
  
  “Every child is a gift from God”, says Dame Tariana.
  And 13 to 17 year olds having babies…no matter what their circumstances…is “our fertility”.
  No wonder Maori stats are the inspiration to us all they are…
  
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  January 2, 2018 4:22pm
  - Johnboy
    
    If only Murri would give up their cannibal ways and learn to luv carrots like you GoV! 🙂
    
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    January 2, 2018 4:28pm
    - GoVege
      
      We clean-living veges tend to do a better job raising our kids John Boy.
      Not smoking, drinking, and chomping on our mammal friends means we are 1) more aware of what the kids are up to and 2) we live longer to look after our babies and even grand babies. 🙂
      
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      January 2, 2018 8:01pm
lastmanstanding

Holy how dare you suggest that. Dont ya know us pale male and stales are just ATMs for the Gumint to financially support these (cough) people.

How dare you suggest self discipline. Thats the responsibility of the above PMS. No one else.
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January 2, 2018 10:00am
- holysheet
  
  Self discipline would include keeping her legs together. I knew that was not going to happen, hence my first suggestion.
  
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  January 2, 2018 10:07am
Morrissey

Nelson Mandela speaks out against apartheid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5TiUhhm7cQ

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.790883
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January 2, 2018 10:05am
- Inandout
  
  A dead man talking.
  
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  January 2, 2018 10:14am
- Rich Prick
  
  Ghosts are whispering to Morrisey again.
  
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  January 2, 2018 10:20am
- Harkman
  
  Hey Morri how’s that ANC turning out for you?
  
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  January 2, 2018 10:33am
  - Morrissey
    
    As we see with the dire situation in the United States, winning your independence does not always lead to good government.
    
    At least South Africa has no Donald Trump, unless that grossly fat bloke who invaded the pitch during an All Blacks game in Pretoria some years ago decides to run.
    
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    January 2, 2018 12:08pm
    - Harkman
      
      Ha? US= >3% growth, 4% unemployment, growing real wages, growing wealth, laws being passed in 3 Chambers of government and challengeable in court, a semi-credible currency.
      
      “the dire situation in the United States”
      
      SA= a corrupt one-party-state, a collapsing currency, a fleeing middle class, 30-40% unemployment, HIV/AIDS rampant, senior ministers actually stealing money from their own country, a nation so immoral they resort to sending a man to compete in women’s running events.
      
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      January 2, 2018 1:46pm
      - Morrissey
        
        You’re dreaming, or if you have some knowledge of the United States, you’re lying. The United States is a nightmare, led by an evil clown straight out of a nightmare….
        
        https://www.vox.com/cards/police-brutality-shootings-us/us-police-racism
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/mar/14/michael-shooting-new-surveillance-footage-video
        
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        January 2, 2018 2:14pm
    - Harkman
      
      So you then go and quote perhaps the two most far left fake news outlets in the English speaking world.
      
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      January 2, 2018 10:18pm
- cmm
  
  A convicted terrorist supports PLO… Surprise, surprise.
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:01am
Morrissey

His moral influence lives on. You want to see an example of a dead man talking? Have a look at THIS…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWdLQI_RtHc
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January 2, 2018 10:21am
- Brito
  
  I don’t know about dead but definitely a man talking.
  
  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-12/interview:-helen-clark,-former-prime-minister-of/8611470
  
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  January 2, 2018 10:25am
- Inandout
  
  He leaves a South Africa as murder central.
  
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  January 2, 2018 10:34am
Harkman

I predict that as the year goes on, we will learn that more and more western governments were conspiring to stop Trump in 2016.
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January 2, 2018 10:35am
- stephieboy
  
  Harkman , in what ways ?
  
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  January 2, 2018 10:36am
  - Harkman
    
    Intelligence agencies with the blessing of senior governmental ministers.
    
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    January 2, 2018 10:37am
    - stephieboy
      
      Harkman , naturally with evidence and facts to fill in the details ?
      
      You might wish to start the ball rolling .
      
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      January 2, 2018 10:49am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Silly boy.
        
        He said … “I predict that as the year goes on, we will learn that more and more western governments were conspiring to stop Trump in 2016
        
        There is no need to provide proof of a prediction you numpty, it’s speculation based upon what we’ve seen in 2017 (you know minor things like a sitting President using national security capacity to spy on a political opponent – far worse than Watergate).
        
        I know, I know – it’s OK when the Left do criminal stuff – however, Harkman was forecasting more of the same in 2018 re the globalists war on Trump.
        
        Do try to read posts before commenting, it’ll make it easier for you not to see so clueless.
        
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        January 2, 2018 10:58am
      - stephieboy
        
        Inandout , no a legacy that began under Apartheid
        
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        January 2, 2018 11:22am
      - stephieboy
        
        DP , you and Harkman just focus on producing the evidence as 2018 unfolds .Not crazy Alex Jones and Breitbart speculations and guesswork .
        
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        January 2, 2018 11:24am
      - Harkman
        
        1. GCHQ was up to no good.
        
        Now,
        2. http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/30/politics/george-papadopoulos-russia-investigation-white-house-donald-trump/index.html
        
        There will be more.
        
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        January 2, 2018 1:52pm
- Morrissey
  
  The only people capable of stopping Trump are the congressional Democrats. Unfortunately they are led by imbeciles who have done nothing but talk about the fantasy of “Russian meddling.”
  
  https://theintercept.com/2017/09/28/yet-another-major-russia-story-falls-apart-is-skepticism-permissible-yet/
  
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  January 2, 2018 12:00pm
Keeping Stock

Rob Cross is spoiling the fairytale of Phil “The Power” Taylor’s World Championship exit. Cross is up six sets to one, and the former electrician has obviously disconnected the Power.
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January 2, 2018 10:43am
- Keeping Stock
  
  All over; Cross ends Taylor’s 30-year career with a crushing 7-2 victory. Taylor is gracious in defeat, but then again he walks away with a cheque for GBP170k, so retirement will be comfortable.
  
  Rob Cross was superb however, and the rivalry between him and Michael van Gerwin in years to come will be something to watch. The darts has been fantastic holiday entertainment, as usual.
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:48am
  - CrazyIvan
    
    My NYE was a little tense thanks to SWMBO’s depression over MVG losing to Rob Cross in the semi-final. The final was pretty one-sided – I think Phil Taylor was just enjoying having made it to the final in his last tournament. Still, Rob Cross does look good; a good new generation of players oming through, when you add in Dimitri vn den Bergh, and Jamie Lewis also making the final eight.
    
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    January 2, 2018 12:15pm
  - Digmen1
    
    Should have been One Hundred and E I G H T Y (k)
    
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    January 2, 2018 12:53pm
Muttonbird

Looks like some divisions opening up within the Jewish lobby groups. They can’t even agree on what Lorde is. Is she a Jew hating bigot, or just a disappointment?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11968517
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January 2, 2018 10:46am
- kowtow
  
  Hahahaha.
  
  “divisions opening up”
  
  Nothing like the mayhem that is the Sunni,Shia divide in the religion of peace.
  
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  January 2, 2018 10:53am
- Albert_Ross
  
  So What? Is it supposed to reflect badly on a community that some of its members express different views from others?
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:08am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Hide – muttonhead is back.
  
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  January 2, 2018 12:54pm
  - Gabby
    
    They could pay her to like them donkeywee.
    
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    January 2, 2018 1:28pm
Manolo

The corrupt Pakis will be a bit poorer:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/01/trump-withholding-millions-in-aid-to-pakistan-as-accuses-country-giving-safe-haven-to-terrorists.html

The Trump administration has decided to withhold millions in military aid to Pakistan as the president accuses the Muslim-majority nation of harboring terrorists and telling “lies” to the United States.
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January 2, 2018 10:59am
- Simon
  
  Yep Trump is dealing to the scum.
  
  US military killed 500 paki terrorist supporters in April.
  
  Trump = new rules.
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:08am
- Digmen1
  
  Yes, but to be fair to Pakistan, when they tried to get rid of the Taleban in the NW they got their asses kicked.
  
  Good to see Trump telling it like it is.
  
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  January 2, 2018 12:56pm
Simon

Looks like the Iranian people are getting outside help. The mullahs are fucked

Obama Admin toadies are upset over the mullahs suffering

Trump Masterclass again by the way. Spoke factually about the mullahs terrorism put a travel ban on them and called that clown Zero out on the nuke deal. Trump is very smart.
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January 2, 2018 11:04am
- EAD_TWO
  
  It’s amazing that some obvious regime change agenda, when wrapped in the guise of “freedom & democracy vs. a despotic regime” gets support from “conservatives” and “progressives” alike.
  
  You’re being played.
  
  Last time this happened millions died for “regime change”
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:30am
kowtow

Four stabbing deaths in London on New Year’s Eve.

How’s that knife ban going?

The political elite in Britain have turned the capital into a third world shit hole.
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January 2, 2018 11:06am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Four stabbing deaths in London on New Year’s Eve.
  
  Wishing you a multicultural New Year London style!
  
  The good(ish) thing though with these stabbings is that it is blacks killing blacks, much as they’d do in Africa, Chicago, Detroit, Johannesburg (Yeah I know it’s Africa but only just recently it was part of the civilised world)
  
  One ~~yoof~~ gang member gets killed and another goes to jail, thus making the streets safer for the native British People.
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:22am
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD TWO and kowtow,, this report suggest that assailants have not beeb identified . I suggest you hold judgement until that comes much more clear ,
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/01/four-young-men-killed-in-london-new-year-stabbings
    
    Similar New Year cases in NZ ??
    
    EAD TWO,]Jews behind the UK attacks ?
    
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    January 2, 2018 11:29am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      stephieboy,
      
      The “beeb” never identifies the assailants if it runs counter to the prevailing narrative. You should know that.
      
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      January 2, 2018 1:40pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Odakyu sen , the so called” beeb” do identify the assailants as we saw in Melbourne twice in recent times .
        
        In the US it would likely be sprayed with e.g Colt AR 15 bullets with many dead ,
        
        https://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-are-the-10-deadliest-mass-shootings-in-us-history-2017-10-02
        
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        January 2, 2018 1:47pm
- Gabby
  
  How many shootings kobknob.
  
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  January 2, 2018 1:29pm
Anne Glen Eden

The article on Oriwa Kemp is ludicrous and revealing of Maoridom as seeing their children as political tools rather than taonga to be treasured. It also demonstrates a complete lack of reason and rationality with the usual emotive appeal to cover up that lack.

Oriwa Kemp has been a ‘monster’. Whether or not she still is, is arguable. She’s now spent more time in her life as a ‘monster’ than her time as a child – 15 years as opposed to the earlier 12. And the earlier 12 can’t have been great, either, or she wouldn’t have followed the road she has.

Irrespective of her stated ‘feelings’, especially of any notion of remorse, as recently as 2017 she was still making the worst possible judgement calls – in toxic and inappropriate relationships, resorting to violence, engaging in relationships predicated on it, and in the justice system. At no time does it appear to have occurred to her to stop getting pregnant, especially knowing that those children would go straight into the system. In fact, the pattern of continuing to produce children which are repeatedly removed is part of the whole cycle of repetitive abuse – as damaged women keep trying to find ‘something to love’ which will return that love unconditionally. The problem being that the reality is children require more care and attention than they can give back.

There is no rational basis, at this point, for considering her appropriately able to care for a child. In fact, Maori seem to be claiming that she has lots of problems which will all be fixed if she’s allowed to keep her latest child. The notion that ‘a child’ will fix things wrong with someone’s life or relationships is both trite and undeniably wrong.

It wasn’t ‘they system’ that failed her at 12 – although it didn’t do its job but then, it was also largely controlled by Maori at that time, who have devoted themselves to fighting it for decades. It was whanau and iwi who failed her, who allowed all of them to live like that and did nothing about it, either personally or in asking ‘the system’ to do so. Neither did whanau or iwi do anything about Nia Glassie.

Now they want another innocent child to bear the responsibility of ‘fixing’ her – because it’s patently clear from the article that if she doesn’t get ‘her son’, she’ll be back in her ‘dark space’. In other words, she isn’t stable, hasn’t dealt with her issues, and is very likely to repeat the same mistakes:”Sometimes I look at her like she’s still a teenager, she’s actually a really sweet girl, she tries to put on the old tough act when she’s around guys, but she doesn’t do a great job at that. She’s just a kid really…”

And this ‘teenager’ should be allowed to take over the care of a vulnerable baby, based on her ‘needs’ not the child’s, because those who left her in the situation which caused it all think it would be motivating?

I have no difficulty forgiving Oriwa Kemp for her past behaviour if she demonstrates recognition of her responsibility, expresses remorse, is committed to change, and spends her present and future life demonstrating appropriate behaviour and responsible relationships. She not only hasn’t done so for long, they’re convinced she’s at risk of returning to her past behaviour. Any notion of having made significant change needs to be of longer duration than, at best, a few months.

I have a lot of difficulty betting the life, welfare, and entire future of an innocent baby on its motivational power to provide Kemp with the self-love, self-respect, stability, and maturity which she clearly continues to lack. The baby is not responsible for ‘fixing’ his mother’s problems – can’t be.

If Marakena believes: “My mokopuna are my life, I would leave my mokopuna with her, unsupervised and not worry,” he said. – he has that power, can provide her with one of them to practice on.

The only reason they’re supporting her is because “She wants to put her baby into kohanga reo, she wants to keep her baby in Maoridom and she wants to be able to go through that system with her baby. And hopefully within that process, mend that bridge for her other children…” It’s done so well up to now…..not.

Political converts is what they’re looking for and they don’t care about the baby they want to put at risk, as they don’t about all their other children who continue to suffer and die out in the community in abusive homes, every minute of the day and day of the week. And, as usual, now that ‘the system’ has stepped in and taken responsible action to protect her children, they want it to put one or all of them at risk again.
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January 2, 2018 11:27am
- Inandout
  
  Get rid of the Treaty and things will start to improve, because little money filters down to those at the bottom. I have spoken with a CYFS employee and she is fatalistic about Maori aspirations, considering most of her wayward kids are tribal. Drunken, drugged and hopeless sperm donors, and then there are the breeding machines.
  
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  January 2, 2018 11:45am
  - Morrissey
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Yeah, give it ALL to the likes of this prick. He’ll use it responsibly….
    
    https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/j/l/z/x/t/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620×349.1migrh.png/1509041729564.jpg
    
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    January 2, 2018 12:15pm
    - Inandout
      
      OMG, OMG, that is an ex PM’s son I believe, OMG, thank God Cindy is in charge now, she will put a stop to all this half nakedness. Does Max grope Morrisey, is he on your hit list?
      
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      January 2, 2018 12:57pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Do you wish you had a body like that Morrissey?
      ?
      
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      January 2, 2018 1:07pm
    - GoVege
      
      Wish I could give you more upticks for posting my favourite pic Morrissey. 🙂
      
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      January 2, 2018 4:54pm
  - Digmen1
    
    Its all about the money!.
    Time to get rid of the dpb.
    Lower our taxes and let Charities and their whanau look after their own children.
    
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    January 2, 2018 12:58pm
- Longknives
  
  I was at Auckland Hospital the night poor Nia Glassie died.
  The ‘Loving’ Whanau were blasting loud Hip Hop music and having a boozy party in the carpark as the little girl lay dying.
  Every time staff or visitors asked them to quieten it down they would get a torrent of racial abuse…
  
  Never let this scum family breed again.
  
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  January 2, 2018 3:59pm
- GoVege
  
  Oriwa was a 17 year old mother of a 3 year old who failed to protect another toddler from being abused.
  Who failed to protect her and her child?
  Obviously her gang member father for starters…I mean why is she in a relationship with a guy probably older than her dad?
  Girls like Oriwa, her babies, and murder victim Nia are just a few of the millions of victims of brutal, chauvinist cultures world-wide.
  Neither Oriwa’s, Nia’s, or thousands of other young girls’ fathers felt or feel any obligation to care for and protect their daughters (or sons for that matter.)
  They live/d the selfish, indulgent life they feel entitled to merely by being born male.
  If it weren’t for a few kind people of their culture, and the fact this place was colonised by a western culture, victims of violence wouldn’t rate a mention and their lives would be even shorter and sadder than they are.
  Maori need to get rid of their sexist beliefs, their revolting gang culture, and ignorant dinosaurs of leaders if they are ever going to stop this cruelty.
  
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  January 2, 2018 5:16pm
  - Longknives
    
    As far as I’m concerned GoVege if you see a toddler being viciously beaten and put in a fucking clothesdryer then you speak out/call the Police/do something/anything.
    If you don’t- You are subhuman.
    
    Oriwa is not a Victim. She is scum.
    
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    January 2, 2018 5:34pm
    - GoVege
      
      She was a kid with a gang member dad and a mum who died in her teens.
      We don’t know for a fact how much of the violence she witnessed.
      Probably she was out of it on booze and drugs much of the time.
      She’s definitely no saint but what about all the adults from supportive homes in positions of authority who were aware of the situation?
      They had more ability to step in than a teenager like her.
      It’s like the 14 year old Maori boy who stupidly chucked a hunk of concrete off a motorway overbridge and killed a young man.
      Idiots had been chucking rocks off there for yonks but nothing was done until someone died.
      Then they throw another Maori kid in jail instead of examining their own consciences.
      
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      January 2, 2018 8:09pm
      - Longknives
        
        “We don’t know for a fact how much of the violence she witnessed.”
        
        Umm- She was convicted and sent to jail for a couple of years so it would seem the Jury knew…
        
        “She’s definitely no saint”
        
        No shit!! She was involved in the torture and murder of an infant…
        
        “It’s like the 14 year old Maori boy who stupidly chucked a hunk of concrete off a motorway overbridge and killed a young man.
        Idiots had been chucking rocks off there for yonks”
        
        Utter fucking Bullshit!
        Golriz also rants about what a ‘Wonderful young man’ that kid was- She is immensely proud of being on that Defence Team and is always trying to discredit the Police and make them the bad guys..
        
        What a shame nobody thinks about poor Nia Glassie or Chris Currie- You are a Crim-Hugger of the worst kind Go Vege.
        
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        January 2, 2018 8:41pm
      - Flash
        
        It’s said that boys marry their mothers, and girls marry their fathers.
        It’s because they know the type and feel ‘safe’ with them. If the girl’s father gave mum the bash and slept around, then that’s normal. And if mum drank and slept round and was always pregnant, well that’s normal too and she deserves the bash.
        Simple really.
        
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        January 2, 2018 9:06pm
      - GoVege
        
        LK: 23 years ago I caught two Maori kids throwing rocks off that very same overbridge in Otahuhu.
        They were accompanied by a 1 year old whose mum had paid them a few dollars (probably of your taxes) to mind the toddler.
        When I got an earful of abuse for telling them to go home, I called the cops.
        The first thing I was asked was “what colour are they, black or white”?
        When I said “Maori”, the copper told me: 1) this is just the way they (blacks) live, and 2) I was being a busybody.
        I’m just sorry I never thought to write a letter in to the council, because they might have put up a barrier BEFORE Chris Currie was killed.
        Nevertheless, it was common knowledge that rocks were thrown off the south Auckland overbridges every week.
        As for what Oriwa Kemp knew: I don’t have nearly as much faith in our juries as you do.
        E.g. David Dougherty, Teina Pora, Scott Watson, Arthur Allan Thomas and no doubt a lot more.
        
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        January 2, 2018 10:13pm
- softail 1450
  
  Anne glen Eden,,,excellent ,excellent post Anne, ?????
  
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  January 3, 2018 7:20am
Rodney Randall

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e7_1514823848

French police woman jumped and stomped by group of thugs.
During New Year’s Day, this group of thugs has vandalized several cars,attacked cops, Happened in Champigny sur Marne.

“We were supposed to get Doctors and Engineers, instead they sent their Insane Asylums, and Criminals. Generally, they send us all their defective humans.” – cnn sucks donkey

Good old Liveleak showing what MSM keep buried out of sight.

Labour and the Greens orgasming for some of this action here
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January 2, 2018 12:10pm
- Longknives
  
  Yep Rodney.
  Our own Police will be getting attacked, there will very likely be a Truck driven into a crowd in NZ, blood and guts everywhere in our future..
  But just so long as Jacinda ‘Capitalism has Failed’ Ardern gets her dream job at the United Nations we can all suck it up can’t we?…
  
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  January 2, 2018 12:53pm
- stephieboy
  
  Rodney Randall , excellent live leak report showing Breitbart claim Dortmund Church attack by 1,000 rampaging Muslims was false ,
  
  https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=21d_1483655588
  
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  January 2, 2018 2:01pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Excellent reporting from Liveleak allround Steph.
    
    Thankyou for your comment. Upticked
    
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    January 2, 2018 2:24pm
Odakyu-sen

“To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a progressive, tell him the truth.”

(Source disputed)
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January 2, 2018 1:44pm
Morrissey

This Conservative, one of Thatcher’s henchmen, seems pretty angry when confronted with the truth…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2nvaTLVQKk
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January 2, 2018 2:09pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  My subjective impression was of a respectable discussion between two older gentlemen of differing political persuasions.
  
  Both sides allowed each to be heard (the Lord even backing off when asked to) with the moderator refraining from too much interjection.
  
  No raised voices/yelling. Pretty civilised.
  
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  January 2, 2018 2:29pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    How stiff were their upper lips – we British, you know.
    
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    January 2, 2018 3:20pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Come on Rodney, you saw it as plainly as the old coot emoted it: Lord Heseltine was bristling with anger, and used every trick in his retinue to intimidate Ken Loach. Unfortunately, for Heseltine, Loach didn’t flinch, and confronted him with the meanness and moral delinquency of his politics. That’s why he unleashed that marginally coherent string of clichés….
    
    LORD HESELTINE: This is the language that’s been wejected acwoss the WORLD, this is YESTERDAY’s claptrap… global economy where fweedom enables people to decide where to live, where to invest…
    
    KEN LOACH: Unfortunately the poor don’t have that freedom of course.
    
    Heseltine pokes his finger aggressively as he tries to browbeat Loach, and he foolishly tries to blame Labour for the unemployment rate—thus providing Loach with the opportunity to school him on the near indistinguishability of Labour and Conservative attacks on the poor.
    
    In every way—rhetorically, style-wise, and intellectually—Heseltine is defeated here. Unless, of course, you give him points for juvenile name-calling and beetling his brow frighteningly. Frighteningly for small children, that is; Ken Loach is another matter entirely.
    
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    January 2, 2018 3:31pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      Like I said Morrissey:
      
      “My subjective impression was of a respectable discussion between two older gentlemen of differing political persuasions.”
      
      Quite refreshing!
      
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      January 2, 2018 3:56pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Morrissey:
      
      Your 3:31pm comment is exactly the same as your response to Union city greens over at The Standard yesterday. He (assuming it’s a he) got stuck into you:
      
      I’ve never identified with or supported Heseltine’s politics, not one bit, but then I really don’t agree with your dodgy interpretation of that interview. In no way, in no universe or alternate dimension, was he reduced “to a never to be forgotten display of gibbering, incoherent fury….”. Perhaps, instead of “Thatcher’s Henchmen” is compiled and presented by Morrissey Breen for Daisycutter Sports, Inc, you should label it as ‘Another Morrissey Breen shocker’.
      
      Ouch!
      
      Other highlights:
      
      Just admit you got a little bit carried away and made some shit up. … You know, when you have to lie to make a point it sort of cuts off the impact at the knees. Now you just look stupid at best and dishonest at worst.
      
      Double ouch!
      
      And Stunned Mullet was equally brutal:
      
      Moz’s ego and third rate stenography skills are the stuff of legend. That he keeps a record of all his web based etchings is perhaps a symptom of something a little worrying.
      
      Oh dear. Where can you find a safe space in the blogosphere, I wonder?
      
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      January 2, 2018 4:25pm
      - softail 1450
        
        moronissey ,is the biggest fibber on KB by far,telling lies comes very easy to him.
        
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        January 2, 2018 5:39pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Great research Nostradamus, but don’t you think for your own sanity you should go for a walk or paint your nails instead of reading Morrissey at every blog he turns up at?
        
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        January 2, 2018 6:16pm
      - Gabby
        
        I thought you were stunted munter nosey.
        
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        January 2, 2018 6:29pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Gabby:
        
        If you want to be a troll please find a bridge (or a rock) to hide under.
        
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        January 2, 2018 6:37pm
      - GoVege
        
        Gabby is KB’s own Shakespeare and you know it, Nostradamus!
        
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        January 2, 2018 10:36pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        He certainly is one of the monkey’s with a keyboard
        
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        January 3, 2018 12:06am
Manolo

The fun police is up in arms. Labour to pass a law to make it illegal:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42533927

A group of New Zealanders has constructed a sand island in coastal waters, seemingly in a creative attempt to avoid a ban on drinking in public places.

The group built the structure at low tide in the Tairua estuary on the Coromandel peninsula on Sunday afternoon, reports said.
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January 2, 2018 2:11pm
- Morrissey
  
  Morons.
  
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  January 2, 2018 2:15pm
  - kowtow
    
    Moronisseyislanders.
    
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    January 2, 2018 3:05pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Ha ha ha ha ha! Now THAT’s a good one!
      
      https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8017557.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Prince-Andrew-Duke-of-York.jpg
      
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      January 2, 2018 3:42pm
- Brito
  
  I don’t know about others but I’m fucking proud of them. Their initiative makes my heart sing.
  
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  January 2, 2018 4:24pm
- cmm
  
  I don’t see much under age raping going on there.
  
  Can we have 150 of these islanders instead of Manus Islanders?
  
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  January 2, 2018 6:30pm
Manolo

Is govege worried?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5225265/Meat-eaters-sex-vegetarians.html
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January 2, 2018 2:30pm
- GoVege
  
  It’s all b/s Manolo.
  We veges get more than you mean mammal eaters.
  And we live longer too so in a lifetime yous are beaten hands down…. 🙂
  
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  January 2, 2018 4:51pm
  - Manolo
    
    I have no reason not to believe you. Personally, I eat red meat one or twice a month. My diet is mainly vegetables, fish and some poultry.
    
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    January 2, 2018 4:55pm
    - GoVege
      
      Manolo……you are OK! 🙂
      
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      January 2, 2018 10:18pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    GoVege makes some new friends in the bush: the female pig hunters aiming high in the NT
    
    Northern Territory hunter Catherine Baker feels right at home running through the bush with her dogs Rose and Spider and catching a wild pig. And she is emerging as a leader in the Territory’s hunting community. While you might think hunting is a macho, male-dominated hobby, there has been a surge in interest from female hunters in the Northern Territory.
    
    Are you superstitious, GoVege? If so, take a rabbit’s foot with you, and you’re bound to have a good hunting trip!
    
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    January 2, 2018 5:20pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      She might want to check out
      “Chicks smashing Grunters”
      and
      “Babes and Boars”
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3119194/BEAUTIES-BEASTS-girls-shoot-feral-pigs-kicks-insist-not-saving-environment-having-fun-time.html
      
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      January 2, 2018 6:24pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Maggy, your posts are eclectically entertaining. ?
        Keep up the good work.
        
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        January 2, 2018 6:30pm
      - GoVege
        
        Just confirms many women are more brutal than fellas….
        
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        January 2, 2018 10:23pm
      - GoVege
        
        Maggie and Nostradamus: nothing can upset me anymore after last year seeing pictures of man’s best friend trussed up at Asian “dogfood” festivals.
        Everything else pales into insignificance in comparison.
        
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        January 2, 2018 10:26pm
  - Longknives
    
    “My girlfriend’s a vegetarian, which pretty much makes me a vegetarian- Though I do love the taste of a good burger.”
    
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    January 2, 2018 5:25pm
    - cmm
      
      My vegetarian son likes hunting. Figure that one out!
      
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      January 2, 2018 6:32pm
  - softail 1450
    
    vege ,just a couple of weeks ago you stated “I don’t know why everyone thinks I’m a vegetarian ” was that statement actually bullshit then? make up your mind you either are or aren’t FFS.
    
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    January 3, 2018 5:37am
publicwatchdog

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
A Happy 2018 Kiwibloggers 🙂

Seen this?

NZ WHISTLE-BLOWER ALERT!
(2 January 2018)

Who in NZ has heard of the form of corruption known as ‘State Capture’?

(Where vested interests get their way at the ‘policy’ level – before the law is made /changes are made which serve their vested interest$.)

Seems that the country leading the fightback against ‘State Capture’ is South Africa!

A new ‘civil society’ organisation has been formed – spearheading the fight against corruption and State Capture – called ‘Save Our South Africa’.

State Capture: Madonsela ‘happy’ with court ruling on Zuma | News24

https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/state-capture-madonsela-happy-with-court-ruling-on-zuma-20171213

(I met Thuli Madonsela – this South African Public Prosecutor in July 2017, at the World Justice Project International Rule of Law Forum at The Hague.)

Penny Bright
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January 2, 2018 3:26pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “I met Thuli Madonsela”
  
  Bully for you. I’m sure a lot of other people less of an idiot than you have met him as well.
  And I bet he pays his rates.
  
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  January 2, 2018 4:01pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
    Thuli Madonsela is a South African woman with, IMO, a VERY impressive proven track record.
    
    Seen this?
    
    Best of 2017: Thuli Madonsela on rising SA activism: ‘excited and afraid’; warns world of anti-white extremism – BizNews.com
    
    https://www.biznews.com/global-citizen/2018/01/02/thuli-madonsela-sa-activism-2/
    
    “10 April COMMENT: Edinburgh — South Africa’s former public protector Thuli Madonsela cut a lonely figure in the fight against corruption.
    
    Before she left office, she produced a dossier on the extent of state capture in South Africa.
    
    The document contained damning allegations indicating that the rich immigrant Gupta family holds great power in South Africa, so much so that they are more influential in determining political decisions than ANC and SACP stalwarts who have committed their lives to politics.
    
    At the heart of their power is money, with patronage and corruption rampantacross state entities and government.
    
    The Guptas are so influential that they have grown enormously wealthy on the back of their friendship with President Jacob Zuma, his family and associates.
    
    Sadly, since Madonsela left her post, the state capture dossier has gathered dust, with the new incumbent no match for the woman regarded as a national heroine.
    
    With ministers who have stood in the way of state capture removed from office, South Africans took to the streets last week to protest against the establishment of a kleptocracy.
    …..”
    
    Penny Bright
    
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    January 3, 2018 2:45am
  - publicwatchdog
    
    Thuli Madonsela is an ‘Advanced Leadership Fellow’ at Harvard University.
    
    https://advancedleadership.harvard.edu/people/thulisile-madonsela
    
    Advanced Leadership
    HOME / PEOPLE /
    Thulisile Madonsela
    
    Thulisile Madonsela
    Prior to ALI, Thulisile Madonsela was the Public Protector of South Africa, and was the first woman to hold this position.
    
    Ms. Madonsela is a human rights lawyer and authority on equality; she helped South Africa’s Constitutional Assembly draft the country’s constitution, and co-developed the policy framework that formed the basis of the establishment of her country’s Ministry for Women, Children and Persons with Disability.
    
    As an ALI Fellow, she hopes to explore new ways for legal systems to promote social justice and eradicate poverty, both in her native South Africa and globally.
    ____________________
    
    Penny Bright.
    
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    January 3, 2018 2:53am
    - softail 1450
      
      publicwitchdog ,,, OMG talk about delusions of grandeur, next you’ll be telling us you’ve met jacinda.
      
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      January 3, 2018 5:43am
- Johnboy
  
  I bet even he didn’t fancy you either Penelope. 🙂
  
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  January 2, 2018 4:17pm
  - RalphT
    
    Careful, Jb, you know that David Garrett has taken a fancy to Penny and I’m sure he won’t be pleased by your comment.
    
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    January 2, 2018 6:05pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      DG will just be happy he doesn’t have competition from Johnboy. ?
      
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      January 2, 2018 6:32pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Penny:
  
  I met Thuli Madonsela – this South African Public Prosecutor in July 2017, at the World Justice Project International Rule of Law Forum at The Hague.)
  
  Did you have a bath that day? If not, I’m assuming that “met” is a euphemism for a very short conversation!
  
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  January 2, 2018 4:28pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Is that a quick ‘Laugh’ as in the Inuit sense Nostra? 🙂
    
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    January 2, 2018 4:38pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Johnboy:
      
      Let me put it this way. Suppose that someone holds a bottle of stinky perfume right under your nose. Your natural reaction would be to move away from the stinky smell. Emergency measures dictate that there’s no time for a laugh, in the Inuit sense or otherwise, old chap!
      
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      January 2, 2018 4:45pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Right! I get the picture. I’ll tell my ewes to something about their natural lanolin/daggy scent. 🙂
        
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        January 2, 2018 4:49pm
      - publicwatchdog
        
        Truly pathetic Nostradamus.
        
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        January 3, 2018 2:54am
    - Manolo
      
      Happy Newe Year, dear Johnboy. May the sheep be with you!
      
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      January 2, 2018 4:50pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Same to you old chap. Long may the socialist bastards rot in whatever hell Karl and Jacinda are organising for them! 🙂
        
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        January 2, 2018 4:54pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
    And you purport to be a ‘lawyer’ Nostradamus?
    
    Really infantile response – IMO.
    
    Ever been invited to The Hague Nostradamus?
    
    Just jealous – perhaps?
    
    Surely not.
    
    Have a great 2018 🙂
    
    Penny Bright.
    
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    January 3, 2018 2:34am
    - softail 1450
      
      publicwitchdog ,”invited to the hague”, was the regular cleaner on Xmas break?
      
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      January 3, 2018 5:27am
- cmm
  
  So you flew to the Hague using money that you should have used to PAY YOUR RATES.
  
  They should handle rates dodgers the same way they handled student load defaulters. Bail them up at the airport.
  
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  January 2, 2018 6:34pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
    You don’t want to know exactly where public rates monies are being spent?
    
    You believe that Auckland Council shouldn’t have to comply with its statutory obligations under the Public Records Act 2005?
    
    You’re just another gutless whiner who doesn’t know his/her lawful rights to transparency regarding rates spending?
    
    I do.
    
    And unlike you – I’m doing something about it 🙂
    
    Happy 2018.
    
    Cheers!
    
    Penny Bright
    
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    January 3, 2018 2:30am
    - softail 1450
      
      publicwitchdog , you are obviously back on the crack to be posting this shit at 2.30am,and so aggressive with it ,seek help.
      
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      January 3, 2018 5:24am
      - publicwatchdog
        
        Can’t you ‘handle the jandal’ – you big ‘softie’?
        
        Which FACTS didn’t you like?
        
        Have a lovely day – you’ve certainly helped make mine 🙂
        
        Penny Bright
        
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        January 3, 2018 11:56am
- cmm
  
  I am sure this sort of thing goes on in some other counties too, but it is really, really, bad in South Africa, from the top all the way to the bottom.
  
  The corruption is so bad that people don’t even try to hide their fiddling the system. The one and only reason people go for government jobs is to be able to steal.
  
  The prosecutors are in on the job too.
  
  I doubt anything will come of this ‘civil society’. It is just a smoke screen to pretend that they are doing something about the corruption.
  
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  January 2, 2018 6:38pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Some Kiwis in Victoria, Oz (really Melbourne) seem to be into biffo and a bit of car conversion, but not so much into sexual offending.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-02/street-gangs-are-a-problem-in-melbourne-police-admit/9297984
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January 2, 2018 3:54pm
Digmen1

When do you think that president Rouhani of Iran will call in the Republican Guard?

He can’t let the protests keep going.

I wish the protestors luck, as the regime can get pretty heavy, you can disappear for a long time.
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January 2, 2018 4:29pm
Digmen1

I read a post somewhere that 9 out of 10 Iranians are not all that religious.
He said that they really hate being associated with an Arab religion (islam)
Do you know anything about this?
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January 2, 2018 4:30pm
Manolo

Fake news CNN is showing the way. Classy:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/video-cnn-reporter-holds-joints-lights-bong-pot-smoker-live-new-years-eve-broadcast/
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January 2, 2018 4:48pm
Digmen1

Duterte is showing a better way.
Thailand and Singapore also.

Show me any dope smoker who is not really “slow” by the time they are 50.
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January 2, 2018 4:57pm
- Manolo
  
  Phil Ure? 😀
  
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  January 2, 2018 5:05pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    He’s not just slow, he’s the only live person with rigor mortis.
    
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    January 2, 2018 5:25pm
    - Brigitte
      
      Not the only one, you’re forgetting Mark ‘Rigor’ Richardson.
      
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      January 2, 2018 7:32pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Wrong. I’ve seen Richardson’s mouth move.
        
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        January 2, 2018 9:09pm
Brito

Here’s a great story by Aaron Smale. It’s on al Jazera. Apparently we are bad, very, very bad people.

https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2017/quite-genocide/index.html

Doesn’t mention the neglect and pot bellied malnutrition or lack of work ethic or love of the half g.

Hands up who’s sick of this shit…..
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January 2, 2018 4:59pm
- SPC
  
  The parallel is clear enough – in a range of similar society’s the indigenous people once colonised, became the under class. And the children came to be over-represented in welfare homes. When the colonisers acquire the resources of a community based people, a bit unsurprising.
  
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  January 2, 2018 5:41pm
  - Brito
    
    Ok, let’s work through that argument.
    
    The Normans colonised the Anglo’s in England (see 1066). There was a bit of arse whipping but by and large they got on with it. The Prussians more or less took over the Bavarians and Saxon states of what became Germany, and they more or less got on with it. You can do the same for Italy if you can be bothered, or any other Euro-state which exists today.
    
    Check the swapping and disruption to life which occurred. It’s all documented if you can be bothered to go and look (not a put down).
    
    Anyway, we seem to have worked a similar process here, without the beheading and quartering, and just got on with things. I look at stories like this and wring my hands and weep copies tears…actually no…I get angry and filled with contempt. Lazy doesn’t equate to “colonised”.
    
    Put your head down, check out your bootlaces and lift yourself up.
    
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    January 2, 2018 5:58pm
    - SPC
      
      Yeah coz the Anglo-Saxons flourished under the Norman feudal order … are you for real?
      
      The serfs never had it so good.
      
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      January 2, 2018 6:15pm
      - Brito
        
        Well Gomer, you’ll find that the Anglo’s did relatively well once the pillaging and general mayhem sorted itself out. They thrived and assimilated and eventually ran half the globe. If you can’t see that you are clearly serf stock and should practice tugging your forelock a bit more.
        
        So my point Gomer, MY POINT, is that Maori have exactly the same opportunities so get on with it.
        
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        January 2, 2018 7:23pm
      - SPC
        
        They were serfs, after the conquest, for hundreds of years. And even after that the well to do land owning gentry ran the place and it was an empire they formed and profited from. The common folk were as much under the imperial over-rule bosses as the indigenous of the colonies.
        
        The majority did not even vote or own their own homes until very recently.
        
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        January 2, 2018 8:51pm
      - Brito
        
        The gentry plodded along for hundreds of years but eventually the middle classes ended up with the money, who I might add, aspired to be upper class. Because of their willingness to work and better themselves they prevailed.
        
        My analogy looks at the duality which exists between the serf and the Maori. I’m not talking about any other colonies because that’s not part of my argument.
        
        Maori have every chance to be better, but many choose not to. I had a lovely discussion with a Maori chap today who is homeless He lives rent free, he has all his needs catered for by the government and he expects them to assist him whenever he calls. He contributes five-eighths of fuck all…as I clearly outlined to him.
        
        So don’t go off topic here. They can do better than any other colonised people if they choose to. If not everybody else picks them up and cleans up after them…as is apparently their right.
        
        Fuck that for a bag of monkeys.
        
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    So what would they be doing now if it wern’t for westernisation!
    
    Designing their own compuyter systems. building cars, planes etc. Reading books and building libraries.
    
    Or would they still be fishing in the jungle like those indeigenous people in Brazil or New Guinea that have hardly seen a white man.
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:00pm
  - Digmen1
    
    And then hand out free money so the indigenous people take it, instead of being proud and actually working!
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:02pm
SPC

Hate speech and discriminatory profiling.

A German MP is being investigated for a tweet and a subsequent face book post.

Under new hate speech laws any site with 2M people on it is fined if they do not remove hate speech promptly. Both were removed quickly as hate speech.

I am not posting this to go over the free speech vs hate speech issue, but to note the sentiments expressed (and seen as hate speech) are true enough to impact on the actions of the police to secure the safety of German women from whom (read the German MP’s comment) – by having women’s only zones (Berlin New Years Day 2017 they began) so that they can remain safe now that the population includes … (read the MP’s comment).

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42537656

They have the safe zones because the police want people kept safe, but they will prosecute you if you say why this is required.
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Longknives

Re the Girl with ‘Glitter Tits’-

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/01/topless-woman-fights-back-against-groper-at-rhythm-vines.html

I have zero sympathy for either party involved in this ‘incident’-

The guy is a Drunken Pervy Moron who deserved his smack in the head- Even at strip clubs you don’t have a feel unless invited to…Just sit back and enjoy the show Pal!

The chick is clearly an Attention Seeker- The fact she wandered round jiggling her tits in front of thousands of drunkards then went running to the Media and shrieking her ‘outrage’ after getting a reaction confirms this!

Both fucking halfwits if you ask me…
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January 2, 2018 6:51pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Exactly my thoughts.
  
  No guy should behave like that, if it was my son he’d get another slap at home.
  
  The girl is a complete fucking clown. 3 seperate stories/headlines/updates over the day on the horrid show some people love clowns.
  
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  January 2, 2018 7:38pm
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    But all joking aside, she’s got a pretty impressive pair.
    
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    January 2, 2018 9:12pm
    - Inandout
      
      Muslim men will be rushing to sexual emergency rooms.
      
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      January 2, 2018 10:04pm
Manolo

The sinking credibility of the New York Times:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455036/new-york-times-trump-russia-collusion-narrative-reset-george-papadopoulos-carter-page
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Manolo

The anti-American president is at it (again):
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/31/obama-challenges-trump-on-obamacare-paris-climate-/

“What’s frustrating about watching current events really has to do with the people that we went into office to work for,” Ms. Munoz said. “President Obama’s legacy was never really about himself, but he cares a lot about tens of millions of people having access to affordable health coverage. That’s the very hardest part. Knowing that 13 million people will lose their health coverage as a result of the tax bill is incredibly painful.”
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