General Debate 29 January 2018

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Inandout

Labour will fix the teacher shortage within a few years says the obligatory Maori union man. Hipkins is a good man and is working on it, says union man. National were bad, says union man.
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January 29, 2018 8:04am
- Digmen1
  
  If there was less risk of sexual harrassmment, you might get a whole lot more men applying to be teachers.
  As it is now, our teachers come from half of the population.
  
  Male Teachers Matter
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:15am
  - Colville
    
    Fix the $$ too.
    Why would a able bodied guy do a (4 year?) degree to get paid less that a builders labourer?
    
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    January 29, 2018 8:41am
    - mandk
      
      It’s up to the teachers to fix the $$.
      
      They have stupidly allowed themselves to be governed by the unions instead of a real professional body.
      
      They have reduced teaching to a trade.
      
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      January 29, 2018 8:54am
    - MT_Tinman
      
      There is, of course, a school of thought that suggests many (if not most) current “teachers” are a damned sight less valuable than a builders labourer.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:10am
      - KiWombat
        
        and the better ones are being snapped up by the private sector
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:36am
      - sooty
        
        Are the rest alphabet soup, who will not be getting their hands dirty?
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:24am
      - cmm
        
        Quite.
        
        I bet there are many (like us) who homeschooled very successfully.
        
        Far fewer have managed to build their own homes without external input.
        
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        January 29, 2018 4:29pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Not many builders labourers would qualify for a 4 year teaching degree, but I suggest not many teaching candidates would survive a week as a builders labourer.
      Perhaps the pay scale is about right?
      
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      January 29, 2018 5:49pm
slightlyrighty

Anyone else find it odd that the Lifeguards are asking for government funding (which is needed) and aren’t getting it, while the Racing Industry that makes $100s of Millions of Dollars per year is now getting Tax Breaks and government funding of new facilities?

Great priorities, eh?
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January 29, 2018 8:04am
- VicParking
  
  It’s called the Winston effect
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:23am
  - Yvette
    
    Oh, bugger! Rain is forecast, so the Interislander Summer Festival Tauherenikau Races will swap from Ellerslie to the new Winston Peters Covered Course in Matamata tomorrow. Auckland drivers adding to the traffic should watch out for extra horse floats.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:41am
- RF
  
  Plus Ambulance services & Rescue helicopters.
  
  The dwarf is pissing in the pockets of the racing industry at the expense of honest tax payers.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:27am
  - Happychappy
    
    Most of these in the Racing Industry are going to get two bites at the cherry when Winston announces how big the bribe will be for his other promise to the Fishing Industry.
    
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    January 29, 2018 8:45am
    - ztev
      
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      Dont forget Murray McCullys super duper ‘elite only’ swimming pool in his electorate!
      An exciting new National Training Centre for high performance sport which is at the core of the Government’s sports strategy was announced today by Prime Minister John Key and Minister for Sport and Recreation, Murray McCully.
      Described by Mr Key as the “biggest boost ever for New Zealand high performance sport”, the plans consist of a newly established High Performance Institute and a $40M investment into a new high performance National Training Centre that will be based at the current Millennium Institute
      
      This was 2010, when you know every dollar mattered during the recession.
      
      Sweet FA from the NZ swimming team at Olympics.
      At least it wasnt in some saudi desert – how much did that cost ?
      
      http://www.news.aut.ac.nz/news/2010/june/new-national-high-performance-training-centre-announced-at-aut-millennium-campus
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:08am
      - GazzaW
        
        Put the gerbils back into their hutch ztev. WTF has any of your diatribe got to do with Winston’s payback to the racing industry?
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:50am
      - ztev
        
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        Must have been McCullys price for backing Key in the race for the national leadership- an elite sports centre in his electorate
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:56am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        Surely even you can tell the difference between a sport getting government support and a business asking for a government handout.
        
        Last I heard the NZ Olympic team was not a profit making venture.
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:05am
      - GazzaW
        
        You’re talking crap as usual ztev. The Aquatics Centre extension was completed in Key’s era but the heart of the complex, the Millennium Institute of Sport was opened in 2002 by Helen Clarke. The reason for its North Shore location – again not as you suggest but rather that Sir Graeme Avery and Sir Steven Tindall (a good Labour man) were the main drivers of the Institute and both are longtime North Shore residents. I do know that Sir Graeme attended Takapuna Grammar. The Millennium Institute is an integral part of the AUT’ North Shore campus Sports Science faculty. A ‘sweetheart’ reciprocal deal was also concluded with Rangitoto College on whose surplus land the Sports Institute was built.
        
        The conspiracy, as usual, is in your own mind.
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:43am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Ztev – you’ve made the same claims in posts at 9.08, 9.11, 9.56 and 10.09
        Clearly this is something you feel strongly about.
        If you check your facts, (refer GazzaW 10.43 and Keeping Stock 10.55) the anger may subside and you could bore us all with your bullshit and another topic.
        
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        January 29, 2018 11:02am
      - Cunningham
        
        FFS ztev can’t you ever comment on an issue without trying to desperately bring up something completely unrelated as some sort of diversion? It’s bloody frustrating and TBH I don’t know why you even come on this site because your posts contribute nothing.
        
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        January 29, 2018 11:15am
      - igm
        
        ztrev: Are you and your cohorts gong to post shit like this all year? Hopefully you will hit another car and the driver will give you what you deserve. Suppose as usual, you would run like you have in the past, except when you can attack someone with known coronary defects.
        
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        January 30, 2018 7:20am
  - backster
    
    Maybe he is using the money saved by cancelling the pensioners tax cut……oh sorry wait that was used to give to University students who have never paid any taxes.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:11am
- Peter
  
  Let’s do this!
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:10am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  This week is Yearling Sale time. It is a time when the thoroughbred industry’s bullshit spouters are working overtime. Despite the incredible hype the racing game is in deep trouble. In behind the scenes are a dwindling number of hard working volunteers that make the game possible. Sure, the debauchery of Ellerslie on Saturday afternoon was great, but have a look at, say, Trentham or Awapuni on any day in February or early March. It is depressing.
  I’ll give you a hard fact; 32 years ago I had a share in a filly that won Ellerslie’s richest race for three year old staying fillies. Training fees then were $20 per day and the race’s total prize money totalled $77,500. Fast forward to Ellerslie in March 2018 when training fees are now $96 per day and the richest staying race for three year old fillies is merely $70,000.
  The Tax Breaks bit is a bit rich. If you buy a yearling filly it is treated as an expense at the time of purchase in many countries. In NZ its purchase price becomes an expense two years after purchase. So the Tax Breaks you talk about is merely bringing some reality into the situation.
  But, for all that, I am not in favour of taxpayers funding horse or yacht racing, despite the blather their public relations practitioners force upon us.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:30am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Seems like the money is in horse sales. That’s if you have top-notch horse flesh for sale.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:48am
    - Ross12
      
      Even that is a really hard game WG. If, as you say, you have a top notch mare and pick the right stallion a couple of years ahead of the sale ( it is a fashion business!!) then you can make good money. But the reality is there is not a high percentage of mares that fit into that category.
      Horse breeding is a farming business like any other farming enterprise.
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:14am
    - Paulus
      
      You only make money in the horse business if you are one of the elite – defined by the other elites only.
      
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      January 29, 2018 2:01pm
- Southern Raider
  
  You can’t drink and swim effectively, but you can drink and bet.
  
  Sums up why Peters won’t give them money
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:39am
Manolo

Against the tyrant Putin:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/latest-russian-opposition-leader-navalny-arrested-52662632

Russian protesters shouting slogans including “Putin is a thief!” gathered briefly around the Russian government’s headquarters while marching through central Moscow.
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January 29, 2018 8:06am
- Digmen1
  
  Brave people, but not enough of them.
  Putin will crush them and get re-elected for as long as he wants. He has the old KGB behind him.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:10am
- Andrei
  
  You think that it matters to anyone other than the Western Media?
  
  It is about the same as Penny Bright getting arrested
  
  https://youtu.be/0o873Wi9tw0
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:13am
  - Digmen1
    
    It would matter to you if Russia started a world war in say Ukraine or Estonia!
    
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    January 29, 2018 8:16am
    - ztev
      
      Didnt matter when ~~Kosovo~~ Serbia was invaded by Nato
      
      Didnt matter when Cyprus was invaded by nato member Turkey- and remains there to this day.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:09am
      - stephieboy
        
        ztev , thus Serbia should got away with all and sundry in the Balkans ?
        
        BTW intervention in the Kosovo crises was backed by the UN Security Council with Russia abstaining .
        
        Why the abstaining ?
        
        Cyprus had a background of conflict between the Greek and Turkish communities . Greece and Turkey are both NATO members . Things there were and remain complex .
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:17am
      - Andrei
        
        As usual Stephieboy you display your gross IGNORANCE about what happened
        
        NATO illegally bombed the crap out of what remained of Yugoslavia and then got a UN resolution to administer the now ungovernable Serbian province of Kosovo effectively annexing it and killing off Yugoslavia (the land of the Southern Slavs) forever
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:23am
      - ztev
        
        Greece didnt invade Cyprus – doesnt that make it simpler.
        Why wasnt Turkey booted out of nato and sanctions applied
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:05am
      - stephieboy
        
        Andre i , all I know is that Russia abstained that opened the door for NATO intervention.
        
        Why thew abstention ?
        
        NATO did not bomb the hell out of the former Yugoslavia
        
        Fact !
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:28am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        I don’t think there was any SC resolution authorising force until the fighting was effectively over. I’m glad NATO didn’t wait for one. It’s quite possible the Serbs would still be digging holes in Kosovo and filling them with dead Albanians today if they had.
        
        I’m fine with countries ignoring what the UN says, but for those people who insist on equating UN agreement with legality, the NATO action was illegal.
        
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        January 29, 2018 11:27am
      - Ed Snack
        
        ztev, don’t show your ignorance too openly. Read up about what triggered the Turkish Invasion, there was a lot of actions by the Greek Nationalists in Cyprus (egged on by the government in Athens) that upset a carefully negotiated co-existence on the island.
        
        Not a simple situation.
        
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        January 29, 2018 11:48am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo , as if the Messiah installed at the White house actually cares .
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:26am
Lee C

Winston Peters announces the building of a new all-weather horse-racetrack on RNZ.
The seriously how far can this clown go to rub our noses in the stench of his own corruption before the public say ‘We’ve had enough”?
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January 29, 2018 8:06am
- G152
  
  Its the Winston legacy.
  A place where his horseshit will be undetectable
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:20am
- Happychappy
  
  You watch the loons that said they would never vote for him again return to NZ First because they enjoy the Horse Racing Industry. Then you won’t have to wait long before he forfills his Promise to the Fishing Industry and these bribes will keep National out of Government until he retires. You never give sucker a even break especially a germ like Peters.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:21am
  - pdm
    
    Happy – I have been a follower of racing all of my life but I can assure you that not even once have I considered voting for Winston.
    
    Never have and never will.
    
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    January 29, 2018 8:35am
    - CHFR1
      
      Ditto PDM and while an all weather track is badly needed in New Zealand I am sickened by the way Winston is going to get it paid for, that is until I see the likes of ztev having to support a rick pricks sport and I might give Winston a pass on this one.
      That said as an owner I do object to having to pay GST on things that I don’t think should attract GST but such is life.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:24am
      - pdm
        
        Although it is a number of years since I have been on a track as I recall there were and awful lot of not so rich pricks’ like myself on the course.
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:46am
      - ztev
        
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        Why didnt you refuse the support Key and McCullys $40 mill to an ‘elite’ athletes sport centre ( cue music about the ‘river of gold medals NZ will get’).
        This was back in 2010 when we had an itsy biysy recession.
        
        At least the racing industry has a reasonable following and helps in a small way the rural sector
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:09am
    - Happychappy
      
      I am talking about the big boys who also courted John Key and ended up with knighthoods and are also in the Fishing Industry. Winston goes on about Capitalism and takes away the tax cuts to Business , Pensioners , and middle income workers of NZ then has the cheek to give it to his friends at the top of the income tree that the ones I am talking about, not the ones living the lifelong dream of owning a top race horse. Except my apology if my post offended you.
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:45am
  - G152
    
    You’ll miss out on the Scampi treats pre race day
    
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    January 29, 2018 1:02pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Winston announced the synthetic track at the Karaka horse sale yesterday. Still to be announced is where it will be located, but may be built in the Waikato close to where many racehorse trainers are based. One trainer said there were better things the money could be spent on.
  
  Winston said races can be cancelled due to bad weather.
  
  No existing horse racing courses will be closed.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:24am
  - fernglas
    
    I was curious about how he could say that no race courses would be closed. Does the Government own them? If not, why shouldn’t the owners close them if they want. Does he mean the Government will subsidise the uneconomical ones to stay open?
    
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    January 29, 2018 8:29am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Lots of questions fernglas… Are all rainy day races going to be scheduled to be held at the new track?! How does having this new synthetic track stop races being cancelled due to the weather in other parts of the country? ?
      
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      January 29, 2018 8:40am
      - ztev
        
        Where are the most important races held ?
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:10am
- cmm
  
  This, folks, is your real PM.
  
  He has been able to get his office junior to do the work so far, but she got knocked up so will have to take a few weeks off. Poor old Winnie is going to actually have to do the job he was paid for.
  
  This is his last term. He has cashed in his chips. Now he’s just seeing how far he’s can go with the piss-taking.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:27am
- ztev
  
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  or McCullys $40 mill ‘Institute’ in his electorate for high performance something or other
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:11am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    It’s time you were called out on your smears over the AUT Millennium Institute ztev. The trust was actually established in 2002, when Murray McCully was an Opposition MP. Here’s the truth:
    
    THE MILLENNIUM INSTITUTE OF SPORT & HEALTH STORY
    In the 1990’s, New Zealand was falling behind the rest of the world in our ability to prepare athletes capable of winning on the world stage. Leading North Shore businessmen, Sir Graeme Avery and Sir Stephen Tindall, decided to do something about it, and with the Founding Organisations and generous supporters and donors, established the Millennium Institute of Sport & Health, which opened in 2002.
    
    Since then, the Institute has gone from strength to strength, providing world-class facilities for the nation’s best athletes and local athletes alike, and highly valued community sport and exercise programmes.
    
    AUT University, a national leader in exercise science and public health and nutrition, became the Institute’s Tertiary Education Partner in 2002.
    
    THE AUT STORY
    AUT is New Zealand’s university for the changing world, utilising AUT City Campus, AUT South Campus, North Shore Campus and AUT Millennium.
    
    The university is New Zealand’s leading health, sport and exercise science tertiary education provider.
    
    AUT’s Sports Performance Research Institute New Zealand’s (SPRINZ) clinics, located here at AUT Millennium, gather sport science and health information from high performance athletes and the wider community.
    
    SPRINZ has internationally renowned experts in the areas of physical conditioning, performance analysis, immunology analysis, biomechanics, exercise physiology, injury prevention, kinanthropometry, public health, and coach development.
    
    SPRINZ’s research aims to improve the performance of elite athletes and the health and wellbeing of all New Zealanders.
    
    THE AUT MILLENNIUM STORY
    In 2009, with facilities and demand for services at capacity, the Millennium Institute of Sport & Health and AUT University joined forces to create AUT Millennium, governed by the AUT Millennium Ownership Trust, to take the founders’ vision to new levels.
    
    A charitable trust, AUT Millennium is committed to providing a world class environment for high performance sports training, community sport, health and wellbeing and related research and education.
    
    With funding from the NZ Government, Auckland Council, ASB Community Trust, the Lion Foundation and generous donors, AUT Millennium has added a new generation of facilities and services, including the HPSNZ National Training Centre, Human Performance Centre, Human Potential Centre, and the Sir Owen G Glenn National Aquatics Centre.
    
    In 2017, AUT Millennium made some further changes to its corporate structure after reviewing the way in which the organisation operates and is legally structured. Previously two trusts operated together to run AUT Millennium. As a result of these changes, on 1 April 2017 the Millennium Institute of Sport and Health (MISH) Trust transferred its assets and responsibilities to the AUT Millennium Ownership Trust (AMOT).
    
    http://www.autmillennium.org.nz/about/story/
    
    By the way, do you know who the Minister of Sport and Recreation was the AUT Millennium was established? It was one Trevor Mallard (Labour).
    
    He shoots; he scores – in his own goal!
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:55am
- stephieboy
  
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  Winston might fancy the idea that such a track could help and revive a declining Race Track industry.
  
  As if Joe and Jane public actually care about the proposal .
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:20am
  - CHFR1
    
    Dumkoff if the industry is dying it is not up to Winston to revive it. Unfortunately, like politics some folks at the top have no idea when to bow out and pass the torch to the next generation.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:26am
    - cmm
      
      By propping up the racing industry, Winston is preventing growth in other industries.
      
      Pet food for instance.
      
      Betting hint: Never put your money on a horse called Jellimeat.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:54am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        I was always taught to never back a horse that shits in the birdcage. When I asked the old sage why that would be, he told me “Well, how do you feel for the first ten minutes after you’ve had a dump?”
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:57am
  - VicParking
    
    Morning Stephie. You would be all for Winston visiting the Annual Masjid Goat Sales ??
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:35am
- Southern Raider
  
  What about solving “poverty”
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:40am
  - kowtow
    
    The poor can spend their benefits at the TAB ,in an effort to lift themselves out of poverdy and at the same time pretend they’re actively involved in sports!
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:55am
    - Manolo
      
      And training the arms by lifting piece after piece of KFC.
      
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      January 29, 2018 11:25am
      - KiWombat
        
        Haven’t you heard – poverdy isn’t a problem anymore – it has been magically resolved
        
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        January 29, 2018 7:07pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    SR – it’s “poverdy” – remember?
    
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    January 29, 2018 11:22am
- GazzaW
  
  “Give your vote to Winston Peters and teach those arrogant Nats a lesson.”
  
  And the idiots did just that.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:57am
holysheet

The latest trend for sjw’s is to buy followers on twitter and facebook etc. Not enough followers usually means you are not as popular as you think you are.
Oh the shame. How can I cope. I know, I will buy some followers.
Stooopid is as stooopid does.
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January 29, 2018 8:06am
- itstricky
  
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  Why do you think that’s new? Why do you think it’s just “sjws”? Trump was outed for fake followers some time late 2016/2017
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:20am
- All_on_Red
  
  Rumour has it that ztev pays the three people who uptick him
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:45am
  - ztev
    
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    Ah deluded loons …… As if I give a flying F..
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:13am
  - stephieboy
    
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    All on Red Herring.con , another lame attempt at playing the in resident KB Clown !.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:23am
    - holysheet
      
      Nah stoooopidboy you have that crown all to yourself. No one comes even a close second.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:35am
      - stephieboy
        
        holycrap , another deep rich irony award for you
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:24am
    - VicParking
      
      Your just pss’d because no matter how much you offered nobody would uptick you.??
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:37am
Lee C

I can feel another ‘Jacinda’s Baby Hell’ article being spewed up to cover Winston’s recent announcement as we speak.
Either that, or Waitangi will conveniently be trotted out replete with virtue-signals and hat-tips to Te Reo Maori.
Because ‘The country voted for change’, after all.
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January 29, 2018 8:10am
- cmm
  
  The Herald and stuff (otherwise known as the CoL press wing) have a file of these ready to print at a click of the button.
  
  Perhaps people voted for a change of government in the PM’s office, but did they also vote for a change of nappies?
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:29am
- stephieboy
  
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  Lee C ,m the country voted for whoever could form a credible and workable coalition government . National ran out of potential partners .
  
  There simply weren’t t any .
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:25am
  - cmm
    
    Looks like typing-challenged stephie is on duty this morning.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:44am
    - sooty
      
      It’s not the typing, cmm.
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:34am
Digmen1

I see on the Herald that a shop in Tauranga is going to do 700 weddings this summer.
700!
I find that hard to believe
But, will Jacinda and Clarke be one of them, or is she still trying for the worlds first child born out of wedlock!
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January 29, 2018 8:12am
- SGA
  
  is she still trying for the worlds first child born out of wedlock!
  
  huh? There’s been plenty of those already (heavens, I can’t remember anything of a Adam and Eve’s wedding in early Genesis, but may be they had a “pass’).
  Not sure she’d even count as world’s first child born out of wedlock to a country’s leader because there have been, I’m sure, Monarchs, Presidents, PMs, and Popes that have beaten her to it.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:43am
  - ztev
    
    How many British kings had offspring from someone who wasnt their legal wife
    
    Henry VIII had 1 acknowledged and maybe 6 others
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:17am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Because what happened in the 16th Century under significantly different social and sexual mores is relevant today how ?
      
      Some Arab ruler in North Africa in the middle ages is reputed to have had more than 1,000 children – is that applicable maybe ?
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:24am
      - SGA
        
        Because what happened in the 16th Century under significantly different social and sexual mores is relevant today how
        
        There haven’t been royal bastards (as they were called) since the 16th century? Really? I’d be very surprised.
        
        And, yes, you are correct – social and sexual mores do change over time. My guess is that quite a few people here have grandchildren or children that were born out of wedlock (far more than would have been the case 100 years ago), and are happy to love and acknowledge those children.
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:31am
      - Ed Snack
        
        SGA, ztev specifically referenced Henry VIII, why should I respond about all the Kings of bloody England ? If you want to know, King Harold II wasn’t married and had a mistress, Edith. Is that useful ?
        
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        January 29, 2018 11:52am
      - SGA
        
        But as you say, Ed, sexual and social mores change with time. Over the course of the last half of the 20th century, NZ became increasingly relaxed about people getting married before they had children. My mother has 4 children (in wedlock), 10 grandchildren (4 in, 6 out), and three great-grand children (3 out so far). I doubt that this sort of pattern is that remarkable in NZ these days.
        Frankly, I find the whole “wedlock” issue petty and silly, but that’s just my opinion.
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:03pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Are you not amused that somebody is so bereft of current data that he has to trawl back over 400 years to find support for his argument? Things have changed a bit – –
        
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        January 29, 2018 7:11pm
      - SGA
        
        Are you not amused…
        
        Am I the “you”? If so, since I suggested that the question might be the ” world’s first child born out of wedlock to a country’s leader”, I would have thought that earlier was better. (Have a look at what I originally wrote above at 8:43). So, I wasn’t sure what the problem was with the example given.
        
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        January 29, 2018 7:41pm
      - realityczech
        
        “is that applicable maybe ?”
        
        Ed, Yet the Jews claiming a country based on 3000 year old fables is something you support.
        
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        January 29, 2018 7:45pm
    - cmm
      
      And it is different when blokes sow their wild oats.
      
      It might be unfair, but that’s just the biological facts.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:45am
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    Might be the first by artificial insemination though.That may be why he refuses to marry her.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:22am
    - oob
      
      Bang on.
      
      I would be very surprised if Gayford was present during conception. And unsurprised if Helen Clark and Heather Simpson, were.
      
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      January 29, 2018 11:51am
- Scott
  
  Yes she needs to get married as marriage is very important to liberals. I know this because that is what liberals said during the gay marriage debate.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:13am
  - GoVege
    
    Nah Scott, it’s about being free to choose.
    Not having that choice to legally cement your relationship being denied to you by “religious ” nutters.
    
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    January 29, 2018 2:38pm
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      I upticked this lunatic.
      I had to – it’s not right but I had to.
      
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      January 30, 2018 5:55am
- stephieboy
  
  Digmen1 , out of wedlock is an ancient concept thanks to the Status of Children’s Act s 3 that will confer the same rights to Jacinda’s child as those 700 or so .
  
  As if anyone out there in the real world cares about your over dose of fake moral panic .
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:30am
  - GoVege
    
    Do you know when that SOC Act came in?
    Pity it took so long for out of wedlock wives to get the same rights as legally wed ones.
    It was Labour that brought that in.
    National wanted jerks to be allowed to continue to exploit trusting young women.
    
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    January 29, 2018 2:42pm
    - softail 1450
      
      vegetable,,,,man bashing again.
      
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      January 29, 2018 2:47pm
      - GoVege
        
        Only bad men, sweet softie.
        
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        January 29, 2018 4:44pm
    - stephieboy
      
      GoVege , came in and passed 1969 and Labour wasn’t in power then !
      
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      January 29, 2018 3:10pm
    - KiWombat
      
      CLicker’s carrot
      
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      January 29, 2018 7:13pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  So 1400 BoP poofs are getting hitched?
  
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  January 29, 2018 5:55pm
flipper

I guess that it is to be expected.
Fiction writer Woolf has been at it again on ABC television.
He claimed that the US Ambassador to the UN, Nicky Haley, and Trump, had a lengthy sexual encounter alone while on Air Force 1. Sources, that he (Woolf) said could not be confirmed, had told him that it was sexual.
Haley immediately fired back at Woolf and ABC describing the claim and assertion as disgusting and beneath contempt even for Woolf.
Yes, she said, she had met with Trump on AF1, but just once. And there were 6 (six) others present at that meeting.
What makes this report and spurious claim really bad is the fact that the fuckwit producers of our (NZ) TV news programmes choose to use Woolf and ABC – but never any rebuttal.
Jeez H Christ on a Bike.
And now we are going to have Labour’s Red Radio doing TV… ☹ ☹ ☹ ☹
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January 29, 2018 8:17am
- Manolo
  
  Our resident perv, he who shall not be named, is thrilled, though. 😀
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:22am
- G152
  
  No doubt he’ll be able to prove this in a law court with the possibility of several million dollars he doesn’t have being paid to Haley.
  She looks like she doesn’t take fools lightly
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:24am
- cmm
  
  “Yes, she said, she had met with Trump on AF1, but just once. And there were 6 (six) others present at that meeting.”
  
  Aha! So it was an orgy!!!!!
  
  FFS, these fantasy writers like Woolf need to give it a rest. Eventually the publishers will learn the hard way – through their bank accounts.
  
  More vanity books for the pulping machine. Just waiting to clear out the backlog caused by Clinton’s book.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:34am
- Gravelroad
  
  Ms Haley was on the socialistalkzb “news” at 9pm last night and she sounded mad as hell.
  Are there no depths these manic and irrational Trump haters won’t sink to?
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:12am
- Scott
  
  Disgusting claim and smearing Nikki Hailey who is doing a kick arse job as UN ambassador. This shows that the left will stop at nothing to destroy the opposition and seize political power. Hailey is a woman of colour who has attained senior positions through her own merit.
  So the feminist left should love her. But her sin is that she is not of the left and so destroying her is their only object.
  Oh and bringing down president Trump.
  Next time the left claim that they are the good guys remember how they are treating Nikki Hailey.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:17am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Scott , yes disgusting it might be, but like Bill, the President will have to live with the fact that with his past form ,rumours will fly around .
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:41am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Like Bill Clinton you mean?
      Only with Bill Clinton they weren’t rumours, they were facts. Even Hillary said so.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:49am
      - ztev
        
        Same goes for Trump- facts about his infidelity before being president.
        Only now are new facts coming up that he hasnt stopped
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:16am
      - sooty
        
        Bills book comes with half the pages already stuck together.
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:39am
      - Ed Snack
        
        ztev, I doubt that many people are concerned about consensual sexual relationships; however many are still concerned about non-consensual ones or where there was such a huge imbalance of power that consensual becomes difficult to define.
        
        Bill Clinton had several credible allegations of rape made against him, plus the Lewinsky affair was a classic imbalance one where it could certainly be argued that Lewinsky was not able to freely consent.
        
        You’re on a losing wicket trying (unsuccessfully) to push the idea that Trump is a sexual predator in Bill Clinton’s league. And yet you seem perfectly at ease with Clinton’s behaviour.
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:00pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Gravelroad , so Trump never , never groped any women etc ?
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:01pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        What a stupid bloody question.
        
        How the hell would Gravelroad know?
        
        You are so thick, stupidboy.
        
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        January 29, 2018 1:16pm
      - GoVege
        
        Ed: Don’t forget “the Clinton effect”.
        (May not have worked for you, but worked on plenty of others. )
        I don’t recall a “Trump effect”.
        Or Bill being taped advising guys to grab women “by the pussy”. 🙂
        
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        January 29, 2018 2:47pm
      - cmm
        
        stephie: When you come back with evidence of Trump screwing interns in the White House, I will give you upticks for a week.
        
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        January 29, 2018 3:33pm
- holysheet
  
  Thats nothing, wait until Woolf announces that Trump had it off with the British PM, Theresa May, last week during their meeting at Davos.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:20am
- stephieboy
  
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  flipper , at least well and fairly covered by the redoubtable MSM media here ,
  
  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-nikki-haley-affair-claim-denies-disgusting-a8180401.html
  
  I think these kind of rumours are bound to swirl around given the President’s past form .
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:34am
  - UpandComer
    
    But these stories mean no one cares. the more they do it, the less anyone cares. It’s the boy who cried wolf.
    
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    January 29, 2018 3:07pm
sooty

Lorde was not invited to sing at the grammys. Oh dear, maybe if she had more than one song it might help. It might pay not to do the spastic dancing aswell. Maybe she could come home to sing the anthem at the rugby, that will bring a new crowd in the door. Could always do a duet with Lissie.
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January 29, 2018 8:25am
- cmm
  
  Dancing?
  
  I thought the poor girl had broken a heel.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:35am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    No – she’s well-heeled now.
    
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    January 30, 2018 5:58am
- itstricky
  
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  more than one song
  
  Google tells me she has three number ones. How many do you have?
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:37am
  - dime
    
    She has one number one song in the US. The home of the grammys and the worlds biggest market by a mile.
    
    She may have three in nz. Big whoop.
    
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    January 29, 2018 8:45am
    - itstricky
      
      Big whoop.
      
      How many NZ number ones do you have?
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:46am
      - Kiwiladdy
        
        On the subject of number 1 hits, Jay-Z, Kendrick Lamar, and Bruno Mars all have more number 1 hits than Lorde.
        
        Perhaps that’s why they were given solo slots and Lorde wasn’t.
        
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        January 29, 2018 6:20pm
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        Ahem – how much of her number one belongs to her ?
        She’s just the window dressing.
        It’s the mixers / producers that are the real talent.
        
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        January 30, 2018 6:01am
    - SGA
      
      I think you will find that she has had two #1 albums in the USA, dime. That counts as a decent-sized whoop at least, I think.
      And the award that she is up for is album of the year (I think?).
      
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      January 29, 2018 11:57am
- VicParking
  
  I can’t see why not, she would fit in perfectly with all the other Bigots attending.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:37am
  - VicParking
    
    He already has an all weather track. From Parliament to the Green parrot and back again.
    
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    January 29, 2018 8:39am
    - sooty
      
      Crown limo all the way.
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:41am
- MCos
  
  Old codgers disparaging young people’s music.
  
  Been going on since God banned Adam singing ‘Stand Back (I don’t know how big this thing gets)’
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:00am
  - itstricky
    
    It just hasn’t been the same since Beethoven’s Ninth!
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:48am
    - sooty
      
      Or “Achey brakey heart”
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:44am
      - itstricky
        
        There are limits. After all, he was responsible for Miley.
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:50am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Probably since Stravinsky really.
      
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      January 29, 2018 12:27pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  She shouldn’t have to be invited. She’s entitled.
  
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  January 29, 2018 12:39pm
- G152
  
  With the anti Israel nonsense she’ll be lucky to get a gig in anything more substantial than a country pub
  
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  January 29, 2018 1:11pm
sooty

How is Whinny going to do an all weather track and not close down any of existing tracks?
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January 29, 2018 8:30am
- KKKKatee
  
  He hasn’t thought that far ahead yet……
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:41am
- KKKKatee
  
  He hasn’t thought that far ahead yet.
  This is an exercise in appeasing the very people he’s pissed off with his choice of COL partners.
  Can’t imagine the racehorse industry folk vote for the watermelons……
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:43am
EAD_TWO

Over the weekend I finally got round to visiting the Fukuoka Gardens that reopened in the middle of last year and they are a thing of beauty (although not a patch on Hamilton’s! Japanese Gardens)

As I’ve become more and more “race aware” over the past year, it occurred to me whilst browsing the immaculate garden that the higher races, such as the English and Japanese, are notable in their obsession for gardening and the need to find the balance between Order and Nature.

New Zealand was lucky to be settled by the British who gave us the wonderful Botannical Gardens that grace our cities.
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January 29, 2018 8:34am
- Brito
  
  @EAD
  “As I’ve become more and more “race aware” over the past year,”
  
  This has to be the funniest proclamation ever. I’m sitting in a little cafe in Tel Aviv. It’s cool, let’s not kid ourselves, it’s cold. The coffee is great, the people are lovely and the food is sensational.
  
  Wish you were here EAD.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:40am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    I’m sitting in a little cafe in Tel Aviv. It’s cool, let’s not kid ourselves, it’s cold. The coffee is great, the people are lovely and the food is sensational.
    
    The time in Tel Aviv is 9.40pm right now Brito….
    
    You want us to believe you’re drinking coffee and reading and commenting on Kiwiblog 🙂
    
    Pull the other one brother❗
    
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    January 29, 2018 8:47am
    - ztev
      
      That has to be the best piss-take on KB ever.
      telling the resident ‘nzi’ from a cafe in Tel Aviv- Wish you were here!
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:24am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Oh – Kea is back with his “Brito” plaything. As if Kiwibloggers have forgotten your recent Brito and Aldo crap. Don’t you have anything better to do?
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:02am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      RealityCzech is almost certainly Kea but Brito/Aldo is most definitely a different person.
      
      Brito displays very different personality traits and commenting style to RealityCzech which makes me so sure of my judgement.
      
      Have you noticed that Brito has cracked several times under cross-examination on the blog from RC, myself & others including the epic meltdown 2 weeks ago?
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:08am
      - Nostradamus
        
        EAD:
        
        I appreciate that you have a different opinion, but there’s no doubt in my mind that RealityCzech, Brito and Aldo sre all Kea sockpuppets. I looked into this when things blew up a few weeks ago. There are telltale signs, little clues, when you analyse the supposedly different writing styles and topic preferences over time.
        
        Two recent examples of trolling:
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/01/general_debate_27_january_2018.html#comment-2125522
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/01/general_debate_28_january_2018.html#comment-2125984
        
        Kea, like anyone else who’d be silly enough to try, can’t consistently juggle multiple aliases.
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:49am
      - realityczech
        
        “Two recent examples of trolling:”
        
        Nostril thinks anyone who shows up pricks like him must be a “troll”.
        
        Moral and intellectual cripples like him always resort to name calling and crying for people to be banned, amid the usual droll conspiracy theories.
        
        I wonder if his attacks on Brito are fueled by his ANTI SEMITISM !!!!! [gasp] ?
        
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        January 29, 2018 5:59pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Kea the Troll: your cheap debating tactics, and your attempt to reframe the issue away from your Kiwiblog addiction and your weird multiple identity crisis, are as transparent as they are pathetic.
        
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        January 29, 2018 6:18pm
      - Brito
        
        Morning winners. EAD is a crack up. I see he’s enlisted Nostrils for moral support, if not intellectual assistance.
        
        EAD, I want you to try something. This will help you grasp the size of the problem faced by Israel.
        
        Sit in front of a mirror and rest your elbow on the bench. Raise your arm up and clench your fist. Extend your middle finger.
        
        Now apart from the obvious metaphor (bigly word EAD) I want you to imagine that your finger is Israel. Your fist down to your wrist is the North Island and the rest of your forearm is the South Island.
        
        Your wee finger is surrounded by some very motivated people. Do you realise that rockets are still being fired into Israel? Thought not. Do you care? Thought not.
        
        Lets make a pact. I won’t talk about your convictions and intellectual challenges if you stop being anti semitic. Fair deal.
        
        Stay away from Nostrils because he has no heart or soul and wants to touch up other mens wives and sisters. You should buddy up with realityczech, he gets it and is deep down, a mensch.
        
        If you still have your arm perched in front of the mirror wriggle it up and down a bit…just for me.
        
        Now, a little about my wee meltdown. The reason I moved so quickly back here was because my old Dad finally died. My tolerance level for you and your fellow travellers was zero.
        
        Now I’m back periodically just going to take the piss.
        
        The sun is up, the coffee is great, the people are inspiring and beautiful. Should have done this years ago.
        
        Sleep well EAD, and you can grip the teddy as hard as you like but you really shouldn’t do THAT….
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:04pm
      - realityczech
        
        Brittle, I accept the problem for modern Israelis.
        
        However what you have glossed over [by not referring to it] is the fact that Jews gave up prosperous safe lives in other places to go and live there. Also Israel is illegally occupying more land that what was agreed to.
        
        Its a bit like blaming the allies for harassing the German “settlers” in Poland.
        
        Anyway, none of this is particularly helpful in terms of a solution. Israel has a right to self defense and I am okay with that.
        
        Of greater concern is the US Israel lobbies influence over US foreign policy, resulting in war and death all over the planet. A few exchanges between Israel and the Palestinians is nothing in comparison.
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:12pm
      - realityczech
        
        “if you stop being anti semitic”
        
        Brittle I challenge you to do what no one else has ever done on KB.
        
        ➡ Explain to me (without hypocrisy, special pleading, or double standards) why being “anti semitic” is not okay, but being anti others groups of people is ?
        
        Many Muslim people are semitic people but being “anti” them is celebrated on KB. Being “anti” Catholics is accepted to a point. But being at all critical of Jewish short comings results in people losing their minds. Jews have been persecuted, but so have many others at least as badly, so don’t play the victim card.
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:19pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Kea the Troll:
        
        Stay away from Nostrils because he has no heart or soul and wants to touch up other mens wives and sisters. You should buddy up with realityczech, he gets it and is deep down, a mensch.
        
        Try on that shit one more time, Kea, and I’ll ask DPF to sort out your multiple aliases and abusive comments. Best you get back to playing with your RealityCzech and Brito sockpuppets.
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:33pm
      - realityczech
        
        Try on that shit one more time, Kea, and I’ll ask DPF to sort out your multiple aliases and abusive comments. Best you get back to playing with your RealityCzech and Brito sockpuppets.
        
        Do it Nostril. Why wait?
        
        Let DPF see your vile attacks on our Jewish friend from an Israeli ISP.
        
        Let DPF see your lunatic conspiracy theories and attacks on others who comment.
        
        Do it right now !
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:40pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        As you wish, Kea the Troll. Now fuck off and take your imaginary sockpuppet friends with you. Don’t forget Aldo. He wasn’t one of your best creations, but you tried.
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:57pm
  - realityczech
    
    Brittle it is looking like the only people still chatting with you are us “Nazis”. Funny old world.
    
    Don’t forget to shout your Muslim brothers a coffee for pinching their land and stuff. 😉
    
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    January 29, 2018 6:02pm
- fernglas
  
  The Hanging Gardens of Babylon were the product of a “higher race”?
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:47am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Yes they were.
    
    But then Babylon went “multicultural” (Tower of babel) and the gardens fell into disrepair.
    
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    January 29, 2018 8:52am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh dear, I’d better not tell you about Charbaghs.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charbagh
  
  But if you know Hamilton Gardens, you will have seen one there.
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/public-gardens
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:57am
- Ed Snack
  
  Higher races – I thought that was the Californians and Coloradans after marijuana law reform.
  
  Aren’t you just so glad EAD that you, you personally, belong to one of the “higher races” ? Must be a source of much relief as you go about your daily routine. I do hope for your sake that you don’t find that your precious bodily fluids haven’t ever been contaminated.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:29am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    @ Ed Snack,
    
    I think I have triggered you with my phrase “Higher Order” as you’ve equated it with either “supremicism” or being “chosen” whereas it is actually philosophical inclination for the way in which society is ordered.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher-order_thinking
    
    Compare and contrast the European & East Asian desire of order and enhancing the beauty of the natural world to the Negro, for example, who shows no such inclinations whatsoever. He despises order and is thus ruled by nature – his raw animal lust.
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:02am
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO , shall we include e.g Baracka Obama or Neil de Grasse etc
      
      How do jews fit into this picture ?
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:04am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Ask Jordan Peterson:
        
        http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2018/01/jordan-peterson-address-jq.html
        
        With respect to Obama & De Grasse, you are aware aren’t you that half their genes are not African and when combined with a bell curve distribution, explains why there can be such outliers?
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:09am
      - stephieboy
        
        EAD TWO , and what about Jewish genes and Nobel Prizes , eh ?
        
        LOL
        
        The bell curve is a myth devised by the originators to justify continued racial inequality and racism . Unscientific and racist to the core !
        
        The J Q question OMG ! Tell us more , EAD TWO
        
        A final solution ?
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:57am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Stephie, the Bell Curve exists, though there is considerable debate about exactly what is being measured. All prospective White Supremacists should be forced to actually read the Bell Curve – “White” people were only second by the measure, not really a White Supremacy tract as a “Yellow” one if you must read it that way. Jews typically rank up with the East Asians.
        
        There is certainly some inheritable genetic component to “intelligence” (derived from twin studies) but the measures are extremely difficult to separate from cultural influences. The results do seem to hold when reasonable attempts are made to remove cultural effects, but the results are not universally accepted.
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:35pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Ed Snack ,
        
        The Bell Curve ,crank and pseudo science at its best
        
        The Real Problem with Charles Murray and “The Bell Curve”
        
        The 1994 book, now seeing an unfortunate resurgence, investigates racial differences in IQ—without being honest about the authors’ motives
        
        “He’s back. Recent college protests have propelled Charles Murray into the news cycle again, and his resurging book sales show the publicity’s not all bad. Attempts to fully discredit his most famous book, 1994’s “The Bell Curve,” have failed for more than two decades now. This is because they repeatedly miss the strongest point of attack: an indisputable—albeit encoded—endorsement of prejudice…”
        
        https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/the-real-problem-with-charles-murray-and-the-bell-curve/
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:45pm
- stephieboy
  
  Paris’s top ten botanical gardens ,
  
  https://nz.yelp.com/search?cflt=gardens&find_loc=Paris
  1 fancy you’ll find them in most cities of the world ( British or not )
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:39am
- lifesgood
  
  The Fukuoka Garden is beautiful and serene in a way only the Japanese know how. I’m glad that it is once again looking good because the scum of New Zealand went there a few weeks back and vandalised it. What do these low lives get off on?
  
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  January 29, 2018 12:14pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Do the Hamilton Asians use one toilet room for three people too ?
  
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  January 30, 2018 6:16am
VicParking

I want the NZ Police to pull their latest road safety advert as it shows a road not once but a number of times. 15 years ago my second cousin had an accident on a road and this advert brings back memories, I will need further counselling.
p.s. : Thanks in advance to stephie the troll for the down tick. ??
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January 29, 2018 8:35am
- MCos
  
  You seem to be preaching to the relatives of those killed on Erebus about how they should cope with their emotions.
  Everyone has different ideas about dealing with such things. I was visiting our departed whanau, including my parents, in the Timaru cemetery the other day. Some of the graves of young people there have decorated with beer bottles. There are tyre tracks where someone has done wheelies on the road between the plots.
  I think that sort of thing is pretty poor form, just as some people don’t like AirNZ filming a safety video in a location where because of their inattention to safety they lost some of their family.
  You clearly disagree. Suit yourself.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:23am
  - VicParking
    
    I agree that people should morn in their own way and for as long as they like. However running off to the press is just self serving not morning
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:47am
  - lifesgood
    
    I’m sorry but that is ridiculous. Nearly every road in New Zealand and every stretch of water has been the site of somebodies death. The Erebus relatives are being precious and publicity seeking. My father died in a public park in Auckland, it would never occur to me to object to it being used for a safety video, or, in his case, a heart attack awareness video.
    
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    January 29, 2018 12:20pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Did you see the strange person leading the charge on the TV1 news segment on this?
      A close cousin of mine died in the Erebus crash – 40 years ago.
      Move on.
      
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      January 29, 2018 1:21pm
    - GazzaW
      
      No more footage of Wellington Harbour when shooting Wellington City promotional videos in case ‘Wahine’ victims’ families get upset?
      
      How the heck are they going to promote the NZ heritage walk incorporating the Pike River site that is currently under construction?
      
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      January 29, 2018 4:31pm
  - G152
    
    A lot of us are still waiting for Air New Zealand to admit the many faults that led to the Erebus disaster and who it was who destroyed the Captains notebook.
    Evidently the ‘accident inspector’ got killed out walking.
    I refereed to it at the time as ‘Pedestrian error’ since he claimed Erebus to be ‘pilot error’
    
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    January 29, 2018 1:18pm
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    All of chch is decorated with beer bottles.
    
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    January 30, 2018 6:18am
Digmen1

I see on Stuff that Labour and NZF’s target of reducing immigrant from low skilled people was not a target.

Lees-Galloway says that all migrants want is a better life! Yes, that is why millions of them are risking their life etc to cross the Mediterranean to get into Europe.

But just because they want a better life in countries with jobs and welfare systems does not mean that they must be accepted.

Every country should be allowed to keep its identidy! and the calibre and character of its population.
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January 29, 2018 8:36am
- Scott
  
  Labour before the election promised to reduce immigration! Surely they are going to keep their promise? Aren’t they???
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:22am
  - ztev
    
    “As a result of cracking down on these problem areas, annual net migration is expected to drop between 20,000 and 30,000.”
    
    labour promise fulfilled !
    [NZ First was for a much larger drop though]
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/100920436/govt-to-tackle-migrant-exploitation-regional-skills-shortages
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:33am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Yeah – they want a better life doing nightfill until they croak.
  They are living the dream my friend.
  
  Maybe these third world morons can work out where all the babies magically come from. Then the extra millions of losers won’t be on charity adverts starving.
  
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  January 30, 2018 6:22am
pdm

Where is Leighton?

Off switch again activated to get rid of the vaccous McIver.
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January 29, 2018 8:38am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Tomorrow returns the voice of morning talk back sanity
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:50am
  - pdm
    
    Thanks PG.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:50am
- Inandout
  
  I changed Radio Live last night when the mad yank came on and immediately went on to attack Trump. ZB is OK as a fill in after a shower.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:07am
- softail 1450
  
  pdm, she’s horrendous, im hoping leighton hasn’t bought his retirement forward a year as radio will be fricked.
  
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  January 29, 2018 12:50pm
  - GoVege
    
    I hate the way the station gets Leighton to read the ads.
    Surely this is putting too much added pressure on his vocal cords.
    We need to preserve this treasured radio dude’s vocals for as long as possible!
    
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    January 29, 2018 2:33pm
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Gee I hope she doesn’t run out of media nonsense jobs and have to go back to being a waitron.
    
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    January 30, 2018 6:27am
artemisia

Yet another rental shortage in Wellington article –

One modest two-bed Wellington flat, thousands of eager renters

Meanwhile Mr Robertson posts dozens of letters from unhappy renters on the window of his Wellington Central office (well covered over at WO).

Many of those renters are his constituency voters -they will for sure be looking to him to fix their ‘problem’ and alleviate the shortage. Which under current and proposed government policy is going to get much worse.

Trademe are now reporting on changes in rental vacancy ads – down 71% on a year ago. Some are landlords exiting the market.

Meanwhile tenants complain about rent and condition. The Wellington City Council Rental Warrant of Fitness will solve all. Oh, only two issued in the first 6 months, both in the burbs, so maybe not.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/100796614/one-modest-twobed-wellington-flat-hundreds-of-inquiries-from-eager-renters
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January 29, 2018 8:38am
- cmm
  
  “Trademe are now reporting on changes in rental vacancy ads – down 71% on a year ago.”
  
  Some are landlords exiting the market.
  
  Perhaps
  
  Or perhaps they let them so fast and by word of mouth so there is no need for ads.
  
  I would far rather rent out to a renter who comes word of mouth from a reliable renter than take my chances with a random from trademe.
  
  Some more digging could maybe find which is true.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:53am
  - artemisia
    
    Some landlords are indeed exiting the market, and whenever property management firms are interviewed in these articles they say so.
    
    Our small property maintenance company worked on 11 propeties in 2017, all prepping for sale. One withdrawn, four now on the market, others sold. And we sold a city fringe villa, previously rented for several years, due to too many tenant hassles. Anecdata for sure.
    
    Am not aware of actual stats to dig into, maybe you know? Meantime the Trademe data is a window into the year on year situation, even if not conclusive.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:08am
    - cmm
      
      No I don’t have other info, but your property maintenance company data seems to corroborate that view.
      
      It certainly is looking like a more risky industry as the government wade in and tilt the playing field in various ways.
      
      To me it looks like the government does not want any private rentals – they only want one: Housing NZ.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:51am
      - Digmen1
        
        Great that means we the tax payers will be supporting every gang family or feral mother, or house trasher by providing them with a nice warm, fully insulated 4 bedroom house with a deck and double glazing.
        
        And as many dogs as they want.
        Thanks Labour.
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:19pm
waitakereman

Happy birthday Auckland!
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January 29, 2018 8:43am
- cmm
  
  Aah, Auckland Day 1995 I remember you well.
  
  I used the day to fly down to Christchurch for some job interviews.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:50am
- waikatogirl
  
  South of the Bombay’s is included under the Auckland anniversary day so Waikato is on holiday too. ?
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:00am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    We are too, in Gizzy…. not that you can really tell,
    it’s like one big long summer holiday year-round here.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:21am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Not according to One News last night.
      They said Glitter Tits was groped at an event in Hawke’s Bay – and it must be right because a journalist said so.//
      You should have to wait until October for your holiday.
      
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      January 29, 2018 2:01pm
- VicParking
  
  The city which is ankle deep in sewerage and you can swim in it as well
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:50am
Brito

I see your PM is pregnant. Touched immaculately by Winston as part of the deal I would think.

Anyway, I did read on line that you’re calling it “our royal baby”. Can it get any funnier. Please tell me you don’t do this!

I guess the well informed will know that there was an incursion through tunnels recently. They were heading into Israel to distribute pamphlets and to peacefully assist at the local hospital (which helps all people by the way). But their explosive packs malfunctioned in the tunnel. The IDF knew they were there, but the only thing damaged was the ear drums of the listening post personnel. I guess the three bombers can count as damage.

I discussed this with my sons back in NZ. Guess what. Can’t guess? Let me tell you. Not reported in your media.

Spam for brains EAD.

I have just been told to put this away and to stop stirring the nice people back in NZ. My daughters are embarrassed. Sorry girls.

Good night winners!!!
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January 29, 2018 8:54am
- realityczech
  
  “an incursion ”
  
  Brittle you silly bugger. It is their land that you lot are illegally occupying. It is not their “incursion”.
  
  Did the allies make an “incursion” into occupied Poland when the Germans reclaimed their ancient ancestral land ?
  
  You need to shake the sand out of your side locks and clear your head.
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:16pm
  - Brito
    
    Actually, funny you should say that. My Dad was from Poland. He lived in a wee village near the border with the Ukraine. His village was ‘invited’ to become part of the Soviet Union when they backstabbed the country after the Krauts wandered in.
    
    Being an engineer he was ‘recruited’ into the Soviet machine and became a tool maker back behind the Ural’s. It’s an interesting story. Especially going to NZ and stealing land and setting up a farm and becoming a successful dirty Jew there.
    
    Anyway, they had more tanks and guns and so they won…just like it is here today, except we’re winning this time me old mucker.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:11pm
    - realityczech
      
      “becoming a successful dirty Jew there.”
      
      Like John Key, whom I voted for ?… but what about the poor German “settlers” ? Cause that is what we call people invading a country now days “settlers” isn’t it ?
      
      The Russians planned to invade Poland with the Nazis. It is debatable who was worse.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:36pm
Lee C

The ‘All weather track’ is bullshit. Are we to accept that a race-meet willl be re-assigned and everyone will pack up their horses and remove themselves x-kilometers away if there is a threat of rain? Or is it more likely that this ‘All-weather track’ is code for ‘Incredibly expensive facility’ which will ensure that the small coterie of people who have interests in it will get a rather handsome pay-out for their involvement. And then, I wonder how many of that small coterie will turn out to have been investing – sorry, supporting Winston Peters for a long time? And what of other tracks. Is ‘No tracks will close’ shorthand for ‘We will not be using the new facility to threaten your race meets, because the public will swallow the notion that you can run an ‘All weather track’ out of some sense of need for a race track that can run in the dead of winter, and besides, I’m Winston so I can do whatever the fuck I want, and no one will stop me?
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January 29, 2018 8:56am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’m shocked that no-one can see that Winston is future-proofing this key, vital industry against the looming threat of extreme weather events (aka Globull warming, ) exacerbated by all those rich folks pulling big horse floats in their CO2-emitting gas guzzlers.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:06am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Maggy, “pulling big horse floats in their CO2-emitting gas guzzlers”.
    They do it properly in the Waikato with large horse transport trucks often chugging slowly up and down the roads with their precious equine cargo. ? ??
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:15am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yes, I have noticed.. the Cambridge Studdies do seem a few notches above the Wairarapa horsey set who clog up the Rimutakas.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:28am
  - holysheet
    
    Imagine what he could do to the capitalist economy, if he gets this experience from saving the racing industry. We would be in his debt for ever more.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:30am
    - ztev
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      You have forgotten about this then $40 mill – this was 2010 when money was supposed to be short
      http://www.news.aut.ac.nz/news/2010/june/new-national-high-performance-training-centre-announced-at-aut-millennium-campus
      Elite atheletes, that employs 1000’s surely.
      Not to worry Muzzas onto it, it must be a great deal.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:40am
      - sooty
        
        Can’t think of anything else to write, idiot!
        
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        January 29, 2018 11:00am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Don’t worry Sooty; ztev’s smearmongering has been well and truly fisked further up the GD.
        
        If ztev wants to continue this line of attack, we can always reference Trevor Mallard’s extended trip to the America’s Cup in Barcelona, where he watched another TNZ defeat, whilst enjoying the company there.
        
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        January 29, 2018 2:24pm
Inandout

Scott Baio is the latest from the money tree to be accused of groping. This opportunity for quick money seems to be spreading.

http://www.eonline.com/news/909574/scott-baio-denies-claims-that-he-molested-charles-in-charge-s-nicole-eggert-as-a-teen
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January 29, 2018 9:00am
- Andrei
  
  FFS – does anyone really care about sexual advances made over thirty years ago by one washed up TV star to another even more forgotten TV star?
  
  Not many people male or female got through their formative years without people making sexual advances to them , negotiating this is part of life from adolescence for most people.
  
  Maybe the women pushing for the criminalization of masculinity are doing so because they were so unattractive that men didn’t proposition them and they want to get even
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:13am
  - Digmen1
    
    Yes did anyone grope Meryl Streep or Gwynwth Paltrow?
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:27am
    - holysheet
      
      Wait long enough and they will recall some day back in the mists of time.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:32am
    - Andrei
      
      Or Helen Mirren, Diana Rigg etc etc etc
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:33am
      - Inandout
        
        Or the dead ones like Marylin Monroe, Judy Garland, Jean Harlow, Lucille Ball, Vivien Leigh, Mae West and Jane Russell. Their estate lawyers simply must be quicker off the mark.
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:02am
      - Digmen1
        
        Diana Rigg was hot.
        The other three are plain as.
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:21pm
  - KiWombat
    
    I can’t understand why it takes a woman 30 years to work out that what happened back then was wrong.
    
    Most women I know would be forthright pretty quickly if something happened to them that they didn’t consent to – and here is a woman who was in the public eye for many years without so much as a peep out of her.
    
    Maybe her superannuation fund is running a bit low!!
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:31am
    - Inandout
      
      It is (like our iwis) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:02am
    - Happychappy
      
      The problem is that know one likes sex offenders whether innocent or not and while i don’t condone what has happened these girls, ladies or filmstars were prepared to further their careers to become household names at any cost. So now they have achieved their goal it is easy to clense their guilty feelings by teaming up and accusing the people that made them stars.
      
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      January 29, 2018 12:28pm
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      RAPE CULTURE !!!!!!!
      You’ve won yourself an all expenses paid trip to your nearest wimmens studies dept for re-education.
      Shaving optional.
      
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      January 30, 2018 6:35am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Why would anyone want to go through their formative years without any sexual advances made to them? I’m assuming you’re talking about actresses, not primary school kids here.
    
    Sex is fun, especially during one’s formative years (late teens and twenties) when everything is new, fresh, passionate and exciting.
    
    What the hell has gone wrong with the world?
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:31am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      To be fair DM, some of these sexual advances had a bit of power behind them.
      The power to make or break careers of young aspiring Hollywood actresses and even younger Canadian Olympic gymnast hopefuls.
      
      But like you, I wonder how ‘flirting’ was re-labelled ‘sexual advances’.
      
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      January 29, 2018 2:14pm
  - stephieboy
    
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    Andrei , so groping is OK with your apparent rationalisation ?
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:45am
    - Andrei
      
      stephieboy – human beings are sexual creatures – it is how we reproduce and propagate the species
      
      This means, Dolt, that men and women have to come together to make babies
      
      And this means a complex set of negotiations take place between males and females, negotiations which can be perilous and misunderstood
      
      One way of simplifying the process and making it less ambiguous is building cultural mechanisms and fences that so that young people can conduct these negotiations without too many people getting hurt and getting it wrong
      
      It is a dance and actual dancing itself is one of the ways in which people conduct these negotiations.
      
      Since the Sixties the rules of courtship have just about been blown away and people get confused by the mixed messages they receive
      
      Its like the stupid “slut walkers” who want the “right” to dress like prostitutes but then expect men to treat them like princesses – which aint gonna happen…
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:59am
      - Inandout
        
        stephie thinks koran-like where females aren’t groped, they are simply ordered to submit. Much simpler and doesn’t clog up the sharia courts.
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:08am
      - stephieboy
        
        Andrei , live in the real world of today. Not Czarist Russia or the Soviet Union for that matter ( the latter very puritanical )
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:18pm
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        slut walkers plus glitter tits equals
        slutty glitty titty joggers.
        
        Well, if they want me to turn up early – it’ll have to be jogging. Even better – on the spot.
        
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        January 30, 2018 6:38am
    - holysheet
      
      Do you really need to ask that question stoooopidboy?
      You are renown at St Lukes for perving. What else you have done, only the young girls will be able to say.
      Wait a few years when your past catches up with you and they will all lay a complaint.
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:03am
    - VicParking
      
      Not when the goat cant say no ??
      
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      January 29, 2018 1:38pm
  - kowtow
    
    I’m confused.
    
    Hollyweird and the MSM were and still are at the vanguard of the attack on what was our relatively conservative and stable society with concepts such as the “freedom ” of the sexual revolution and the promotion of drug culture and hedonism.
    
    Yet now there is the inevitable consequence (people behaving badly) and the same pushers of the extreme agenda are now outraged , at themselves?
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:14am
    - stephieboy
      
      kowtow , oh for the good old times of a well lit cemetery ( 1950s etc )
      
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      January 29, 2018 12:19pm
      - softail 1450
        
        streppieboy,just F/O please.
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:57pm
- VicParking
  
  And thirty minutes of fame.
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:53am
Digmen1

I see the Herald on line in its main story is calling John Banks son “illegitimate”

So what will it call Jacinda’s baby?
700 weddings in Tauranga this summer!

So is Jacinda going to join the mainstream and set an example?
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January 29, 2018 9:06am
- Inandout
  
  Cindy and Bindy will simply have to get hitched before little Waru is born.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:09am
- ztev
  
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  No wonder that B.. skipped the country once the Home D bracelet came off.
  
  Grew up not knowing his dad…
  Family man .. phtt
  Anti -abortion …phhht
  
  The apple didnt fall far from the Tree there
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:45am
- stephieboy
  
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  Digmen1 , she has no need to . The Status of Children Act s 3 1969 has taken care of that .
  
  The vast majority out there simply don’t care about your fake moral panic qualms . Whether it’s Banksie or Jacinda .
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:49am
  - Digmen1
    
    So why does the herald call John Banks’ son “illegitimate” ?
    
    He was born after your act.
    
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    January 29, 2018 12:23pm
- GoVege
  
  At the time Banks’s son was born , your parents being unmarried WAS a big deal.
  Plus there was no DPB and abortion was illegal.
  Banks and hundreds of selfish males like him caused a lot of suffering.
  
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  January 29, 2018 4:55pm
Im Right

To anyone here who has friends or relatives who believe the MSM are right wing, just ask them “how many news reports or front page headlines had the homeless or sleeping in cars stories there BEFORE the Sept election” and then ask them “how many have you read/heard since Labour and NZ First became the Govt”. If this doesn’t show their wrongly perceived bias then they are a lost cause I’m afraid.
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January 29, 2018 9:28am
- KiWombat
  
  Haven’t you heard – the problem was fixed overnight, all the car-o-vans have gone back to the south island because the lids need to be ready to start school next week !
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:34am
- kowtow
  
  Same question can be asked of practically every media organisation that labels any pro nation , anti Muslim politician “far right”.
  
  Fake news from every “news” organisation every day.
  
  Literally.
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:17am
- KevOB
  
  It also show the effectiveness of Labour’s unsung PR team who presented issues throughout the whole year to build a campaign. They didn’t present truth but bad feelings in context like water pollution. They didn’t mention current farming practices except slipups. Subtle propaganda at its worst.
  
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  January 29, 2018 11:09am
- GazzaW
  
  You won’t get to see much footage from now on of Cindy and Twitford settling down for a much publicised night on a piece of cardboard all the while denouncing the heartless Government to the massed cameras.
  
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  January 29, 2018 4:43pm
Digmen1

Very Interesting on Stuff this morning.

They have two articles with comments
On Labours 100 days and
Labour Immigration Target

Both are full of right wing up ticks! Eg 30 or 50 upticks.

So it seems to me that even thought Stuff is left wing orientated, most of its readers are not!
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January 29, 2018 9:30am
- stephieboy
  
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  Digmne1 . Joe and Jane Public seem happy with the present arrangement as result of National running out of potential coalition partners .
  
  Down or up ticks simply don’t count and are irrelevant in the real world out there . Only in the alt right bubble chamber here on KB.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:53am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy describes Kiwiblog as an “alt right bubble chamber”. My goodness – have you told DPF?
    
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    January 29, 2018 11:39am
    - stephieboy
      
      Of course not . Just the deluded downtickers who inhabit it .
      
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      January 29, 2018 12:22pm
  - Digmen1
    
    So why so many upticks on a left wing news media!
    Answer my question!
    
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    January 29, 2018 12:25pm
  - softail 1450
    
    streppieboy ,just F O.
    
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    January 29, 2018 1:00pm
DifferentPerspective

The bar is low for women

So if I’m reading the world’s liberal MSM correctly, Jacinda is a feminist hero and icon to women worldwide just for getting pregnant after fertility treatment.

Is that it? Is that really the pinnacle of feminist equality? Has she scaled every mountain? Can she retire now with nothing else left to prove?

Is the bar really that low? Is there nothing greater that a woman can aspire to achieve than managing to get (with hormonal assistance) up the spout (a thing that every female of every species has been doing since Adam was in short pants?)

Is that all it takes for a woman to be successful?

Talk about the sexism of low expectations?

The left wing parodies themselves.

At the same time as we have KellyAnne Conway (a woman, albeit a conservative woman) who ran a winning campaign for President:
– where no woman has gone before
– for a candidate who all commentators agreed couldn’t win
– against the best qualified candidate ever to run for the WH
– against a back-drop of Obama using state security organs to spy on the campaign (making Nixon look like an amateur spy)
– in a context of concerted media bias and slander

But no! Jacinda is a mold-breaker, one of a kind, champion of womanhood just because she got up the duff!

Idiocracy is here.
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January 29, 2018 9:45am
- ztev
  
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  What fertility treatment
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11978063
  
  Notice this the ‘Lifestyle’ section of the NZH. What would have once been called the womens pages in the sexist era DP grew up in
  
  “Idiocracy is here.” – Indeed , the idiot cant read a story properly
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:49am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Oooh look a squirrel!!
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:04am
    - itstricky
      
      Oooh look, fake news!
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:35am
- itstricky
  
  Jacinda is a mold-breaker, one of a kind, champion of womanhood just because she got up the duff!
  
  I thought it was more about being only the second leader, globally, to (attempt) to do this.
  
  She hasn’t succeeded yet, but I think you’re summation that ‘getting pregnant is the pinacle’ is incorrect.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:54am
- stephieboy
  
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  DP , will you include Margaret Thatcher and Theresa May’s as an exception ?
  
  “.. against a back-drop of Obama using state security organs to spy on the campaign (making Nixon look like an amateur spy)”
  
  The factual basis for that claim ?
  
  “..in a context of concerted media bias and slander”
  
  Include Fox Breitbart , Daily Mail , Washington Examiner , PJ etc ?
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:55am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    SB – let me answer you using ztev logic.
    
    “DP , will you include Margaret Thatcher and Theresa May’s as an exception ?”
    
    … but neither Thatcher or May got pregnant when in office.
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:06am
  - Inandout
    
    stephie, your list of right thinking publications is growing. I call this the Trump effect.
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:11am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @stephieboy
    
    Aren’t you aware that Theresa May and her husband have been unable to have children?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_May#Personal_life
    
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    January 29, 2018 1:56pm
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      Maggy dealing with stuffedboy
      It’s like watching a carer and their mental patient.
      
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      January 30, 2018 6:43am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Jacinda is worldwide heroin (according to liberal MSM), but this courageous woman is just back in the pack.
  
  We’re being lied to, all day, every day by the MSM.
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:03am
- KevOB
  
  Thirty seven is not the best age to start having a family. Twenty years prior is better for the health of mother and child.
  
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  January 29, 2018 11:04am
  - GoVege
    
    TWENTY years earlier??
    Are you a fan of Dame Turia or something?
    
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    January 29, 2018 4:58pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I see stephieboy has arrived.

Yesterday he wanted me to give specific examples of where he had smeared me with an Alt-right label.

Well have a close look at this article on Senator Tammy Duckworth, stephieboy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42803733

When I posted a comment on the 24 Jan about this DEMOCRAT Senator, who is a vocal CRITIC of President Trump, stephieboy wrote
MW, another alt right Trumpeter moral panic alert ?
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/01/general_debate_24_january_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2123133

So clearly stephieboy had failed to read or comprehend the article and took it upon himself to offer yet ANOTHER (see that specific use of the word!) smear that links my name with the alt-right movement.

He has failed to explain why he persists in defaming me on a Public blog.

Its time to explain yourself stephieboy.
Otherwise I will be forced to conclude that your actions are deliberate, personal and constitute harrassment.
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January 29, 2018 9:51am
- Manolo
  
  You must be wrong, cara Maggy. Muslims like stephieboy are peaceful people and never offend or attack others. La religione della pace!
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:56am
- stephieboy
  
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  Maggy Wassilieff ,
  
  Very sad .
  
  Just focus on the specifics . The factual basis claiming that I stated that you were a member of the alt right other than framing it as a question for you to rebut or not !
  
  Now stop and think, breathe deeply and then get over your self !
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:01am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Hang on there cowboy, let’s look at this through the sort of libtard lens you apply to all things.
    
    1) Maggy is a female
    2) You are a male
    3) Maggy made an accusation
    4) Maggy deserves to be heard
    5) Ergo you are guilty, no proof is needed and you need to apologise. Now say sorry.
    
    Live by the libtard sword, die by the libtard sword!
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:10am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Sorry Stephie. No chance wriggling that way. Your comments are still defamatory even if you try and frame them as a question. You have been told this before…
    
    DEFAMATORY IMPUTATIONS
    Is there a difference between saying something directly and merely suggesting or implying it?
    
    Absolutely not. If the ordinary person reading or hearing the statement would naturally infer or interpret a defamatory meaning, it doesn’t make a difference whether an accusation was said or written directly, or was merely implied, or where certain things are left unsaid but readers are able to connect the dots.
    
    ✎✎ PUBLISHERS’ TIP: There’s nothing to be gained by being ‘cute’ with words. If anything, to a future jury reading some clever metaphor or insinuation you “thought you could get away with”, you’ll probably just look like a bit of a smart-arse’
    http://www.defamationupdate.co.nz/guide-to-defamation-law
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:20am
    - All_on_Red
      
      No question marks on these though.
      
      “stephieboy
      Upand Comer , and you are a rabid alt right wing cabbage head !
      Fixed for you !
      January 27, 2018 9:50AM”20,621 COMMENTS
      
      “stephieboy
      VicParking , no again : a fair and just society for all . Not exclusively for you and your rabid alt right associates
      JANUARY 27, 2018 9:41AM””20,621 COMMENTS
      
      “stephieboy
      realityczech crime was also rife under the old Apartheid regime whose ending you appear to so deeply lament with an overlay of descpicable and nasty racist invective !
      But hey this is the outcome of being a rabid alt righter and Trump supporter !
      JANUARY27, 2018 12:52PM”
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:24am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red herring .con , stop posting alt right type propaganda .
        Give also the posts I was responding too .
        
        Not selective biased quotes .
        
        Whats the difficulty ?
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:26pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Your own words are quoted to you and that is what you say?
        I hope Maggy and the others above complain to Netsafe about you.
        Your legal bills will be enormous.
        You won’t be LOLing then!
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:41pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        He doesn’t know what the other voices in his head are typing on KB! ?
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:47pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , man up and just quote the posters I was responding too and then we shall see what netsafe or whoever has to say has to say .!
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:49pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Err, you use their names at the start of your posts.
        The date and time is there too.
        If you were smart you would ‘man up’ and apologise to UpandComing, Vic Parking, RC and Maggy.
        And then change your behaviour.
        But you’re not smart are you.
        
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        January 29, 2018 1:00pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @ stephieboy
    I had much earlier on KB refuted any suggestions that I was any thing to do with alt-rightism
    or gave a stuff about the US political system.
    
    You have already written here on KB in 2016 that you did not mean to harm me or my family, but then you have persisted in linking my name with Alt-right politics… even though my comment has clearly nothing to do with that.
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:36am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      I have not linked per se your name to alt right politics .
      
      However some of your views appear to be linked to the same IMHO.
      
      Thats the nearest it has ever got .
      
      You have not suffered the kind fs accusations I’ve had to put up with.
      
      Like perv . Muslim , Commie and so on !
      
      Correct ?
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:39am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        So are you now saying that when you have attached the words Alt-right trumpeter to my comments or stated that I have jumped on the alt-right bandwagon, you are not linking my name to that appalling philosophy?
        
        Why have you written those words then?
        
        It must clear from all my polite responses to you and everything I have written here on KB, that I abhor violence, racism, sexism, oppression, bullying and have spent my life fighting against such.
        
        What has led you to repeatedly link my name with the alt-right?
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:51am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        You have not suffered the kind fs accusations I’ve had to put up with.
        
        Like perv . Muslim , Commie and so on !
        
        I have never made any of those accusations against you or any one here.
        If you object to being abused on here, inform DPF.
        
        You will be well aware of the fact that I have been labelled menopausal, mad, deranged, a witch, smeared as being sexually rejected by a NZ climate scientist, accused of having saggy little tits, etc by another anonymous abuser on this blog, because you have been a party to some of that abuse.
        
        Where there is a difference between the abuse you have received on here and that that I have endured, is that I comment under my own name.
        
        Anyone who searches for my name or surname could turn up links to me being labelled an Alt-righter.
        
        Does that matter?
        Well it does if your family suffered under the Nazi regime.
        It does if your Daddy and uncles gave up the best years of their life to fight fascism.
        It does if you have loved ones that belong to different races and religions.
        It does if you live, work and socialise amongst East-coast Maori communities
        It does if you are responsible for the employment of people.
        It does if you advising Government Departments, Local Councils, Iwi, and National institutions.
        
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        January 29, 2018 11:41am
      - softail 1450
        
        streppieboy,just FO.
        
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        January 29, 2018 1:04pm
      - holysheet
        
        Maggy, may I suggest you communicate with the head god botherer at St Albans
        http://www.saintalbans.org.nz/
        Parish Priest (Priest in Charge)
        Rev. Dr. Fr. Michael John.
        
        Make your complaint about the antics on KB by one of their members Ralph Taylor (Stephieboy)
        I am sure they would take a dim view of his activities on KB, at St Lukes and elsewhere.
        Stephieboy on 3 December 2015:
        
        Jack 5, recently i was at St Luke’s shopping mall and I saw a Muslim lady dressed in traditional apparel accompanied by her two beautiful young daughters dressed in modern western tight jeans and blouses , revealing lovely supple body proportions , including small but ample breasts .
        
        stephieboy
        Yesterday I was at the Robert Harris cafe St Lukes Megacentre , Mt Albert enjoying a cappuccino. I noticed next door three Muslim women enjoying their lattes with their children . Two of these honeypots .were wearing their Nijabs with stylish jeans and blouses . The other in more typical kiwi informal attire?
        AUGUST 21, 2016 8:51AM’
        
        All of this activity shows a pattern of activity regarding young females. What else has the creep been up to?
        
        While you are at it, ask them to get an explaination why his Facebook page that had been linked to the church FB page has been deleted.
        
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        January 29, 2018 1:50pm
    - KevOB
      
      Who cares about silly alt right: it’s a current American stupidly. Maggy is no more alt anything than I am. Are her detractors so small minded that they must attempt to reduce her?
      KBers should show respect for each other. We will disagree but cutting off peoples feet or insults gets nowhere.
      
      Maggy has presented here as one of the most able commentators. A society that cannot tolerate another viewpoint is not one. Living with each other requires tolerance. Then we can adapt and modify our positions to co-exist. Even I can espouse a left view on occasion. You can’t progress being stuck in concrete.
      Maggy I’m sorry for what has been inflicted on you. Keep up your good work–your intellect and background shines through.
      
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      January 29, 2018 1:08pm
  - VicParking
    
    Stephie.. Start thinking Stop breathing and get over playing with yourself ??
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:59am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    I’m not in front of a computer, so I’ll just link to this comment where DPF rejected your “only asking a question” defence in the case of Penny.
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/06/general_debate_7_june_2015.html/comment-page-2#comment-1534680
    
    I’d suggest that you’ve dug a deep enough hole for yourself.
    
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    January 29, 2018 11:48am
    - stephieboy
      
      Nostradamus , does it apply to this too ?,
      
      Penny,
      
      It is against Kiwiblog rules to either accuse, or to imply, as you have with your “question”, that other people on this blog are corrupt or involved in criminal behavior.
      
      You were recently warned by DPF not to do this.
      
      Cease and desist.
      
      Thumb up 12 Thumb down 2REPLY REPORTJUNE 7, 2015 8:43PM
      
      LOL
      
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      January 29, 2018 12:32pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        LOL
        
        There’s no polite way to ask this: are you fucked in the head?
        
        You asked Maggy to provide evidence of “[t]he factual basis claiming that [you] stated that [Maggy is] a member of the alt right other than framing it as a question for you to rebut or not !”
        
        I specifically linked to a comment from Penny that DPF gave her a strike for. And DPF’s guiding principle, in case you’re too stupid to realise it, is that you can’t make defamatory statements in the guise of “framing it as a question for [someone] to rebut or not”. I was being constructive and helpful, but you can’t help yourself – being an arrogant cock with your “LOLs” comes naturally for you.
        
        I think you’ve come close to defaming Maggy – and arguably have defamed her several times. An apology would be a good idea at this point – particularly as your real identity is now public knowledge – useful if someone wants to serve court documents on you…
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:42pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Nostadamus ,
        
        “I think you’ve come close to defaming Maggy – and arguably have defamed her several times.”
        
        “ come close” and “ think “??
        
        Examples ?
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:52pm
      - stigie
        
        “There’s no polite way to ask this: are you fucked in the head?”
        
        Unfortunately, this what happens when you sleep with goats just to get your rocks off releasing the tension of a very fucked up life !~
        
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        January 29, 2018 1:23pm
  - Dave_1924
    
    Online bullying…. just stop…
    
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    January 29, 2018 6:05pm
- kowtow
  
  My approach to the troll is to ignore it. Never respond. Just downtick it to oblivion.
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:21am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes,
    Just downtick it to oblivion.
    but the comments are still in a published form.
    They are still accessible in the archive.
    
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    January 29, 2018 10:31am
    - kowtow
      
      I’d suggest the troll is playing with fire and it might want to have a look at the implication of his lies and smears and the Harmful Digital Communication Act cos what he’s doing falls within the intent of same.
      
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      January 29, 2018 10:49am
      - stephieboy
        
        kowtow ,
        
        “Harmful Digital Communication Act ”
        
        In what way precisely ? . Why don’t you help MW lay a complaint ?
        
        Or somehow both try a bit of censorship instead ( down ticking or not )
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:35pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Damn it, missed and gave SB an uptick. I TAKE THE UPTICK BACK!
        
        SB, you will be lucky if Maggy only reports you to DPF.
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:58pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Perhaps MW but they will still remain unread in the archive but meanwhile you like too many others are falling into the troll trap. As trolls they are obliged to attack, change the subject or stoop to making it personal if all else fails. Most KB’s recognise the MO that fails in the Media party and elsewhere because they simply ignore it and would fail here too if IGNORED.
      Too often good quality content here is missed as otherwise astute contributors are sucked into engaging with trolls. Or trolls gather and respond to each other which only drag the quality content down.
      It is much more apparent how otherwise good contributors are duped into troll tricks when catching up on KB with a 5 hour time lag. Quality contributions in the comments can be missed as late additions tackle current events but many are missed by too much troll traffic just becomes “too much”.
      Trolls need to be treated like dog shit which quickly dries up and turns to dust if left where it is dropped. Don’t be duped or allow personal jibes to sting but keep giving us the true views of a real woman for more balance.
      
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      January 29, 2018 3:56pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @piniwi
        
        yep, I’ll suck it up and continue to suck up the personal abuse here.
        
        But now and again (after 3 years of constant crap), I think the crap needs to be exposed to sunlight and a bit of disinfection.
        
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        January 29, 2018 4:39pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Sorry but the problem for Maggy is compounded because she uses her real name.
        When you google her name the comments, even if hidden on here, do appear.
        She had the same problem with Griff who admitted he was actively smearing her because he knew it would be recorded on the internet.
        I’m surprised she hasn’t instructed her Solicitor to write to DPF using HDCAct or contacted Netsafe.
        They would do all the work
        
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        January 29, 2018 4:48pm
  - KevOB
    
    The trolling is getting tedious. It is also juvenile. As for the Americans- who cares?
    
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    January 29, 2018 12:47pm
- calendar girl
  
  Maggy, ‘stephieboy’ (one or more?) has been stalking you relentlessly over the last year or two. A number of us have commented on it from time-to-time, but the stephie tag team continues its insidious harassment – now an almost daily ritual. It must be difficult for you to put up with the drivel, for that’s what it is.
  
  In my view, our good host DPF may need to consider intervening to warn stephie off targeting you selectively, despite your being one of KB’s more sensible and informative contributors.
  
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  January 29, 2018 4:34pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Just a muslim worshiping bit of rotting dickcheese.
  
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  January 30, 2018 6:46am
Colville

So Winston is looking to spend some of YOUR money….

Crown Forestry is looking for land to plant as part of the Government’s One Billion Trees programme.

We want to talk to landowners considering commercial radiata pine planting and who have blocks of land that:

· are a minimum size of 200 plantable hectares

· have not been plantation forest before

· have reasonable fertility

· have easy access within the block and to district roads and state highways

· have terrain suitable for current forest harvesting systems

· are identified as suitable for production forestry in the relevant district council and regional council land use and water plans

· if there are weeds, these can be controlled by aerial spraying.

Crown Forestry, a business unit of the Ministry for Primary Industries, would lease the land or enter into a forestry joint venture for a one rotation (30 year) term. The Crown would pay for all establishment and management costs over the lifetime of the crop and pay a negotiated rent to the landowner. Rents will reflect the quality of the land, proximity to ports or wood processing plants and the costs Crown Forestry expect to pay over the lifetime of the crop. The landowner would retain all rights to any carbon credits.

Only IWI need apply…who else has a huge block of land sitting around doing SFA. ??
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January 29, 2018 10:30am
- sooty
  
  How big is the Raglan golf course?
  
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  January 29, 2018 11:12am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It is disappointing that only land for commercial radiata pine is being considered at the moment.
  
  I think some folks around here have realised that commercial radiata on their highly erodible hill country has not been the panacea promised in the 80s and 90s.
  
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  January 29, 2018 11:13am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I do wish they’d find another species to grown as a commercial crop.
    The pollen from pine plays havoc with people’s health.
    
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    January 29, 2018 2:21pm
Andrei

NATO did not bomb the hell out of the former Yugoslavia

Fact !

Stephieboy January 29 2018 10:28AM

As I have long suspected, this particular frequent commenter on this Blog has totally lost contact with reality
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January 29, 2018 10:37am
- RalphT
  
  “As I have long suspected, this particular frequent commenter on this Blog has totally lost contact with reality”
  
  Evidence, Andrei; please show when he did have contact with reality. Going back through entries over the years I think it has always been lacking.
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:47am
  - stephieboy
    
    Ralph T , not another Conspiracy theorist etc ?
    
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    January 29, 2018 11:25am
    - RalphT
      
      No, I leave that to the Americans; they’re experts in that field.
      
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      January 29, 2018 11:35am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Conspiracy Theory?
      Tell us more about how Trump colluded with the Russians.
      LOL
      
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      January 29, 2018 12:32pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Right , we await the outcome of the investigations including the so called FISA memo with its alleged “ explosive” contents .
        
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        January 29, 2018 3:18pm
    - softail 1450
      
      streppieboy,just FO.
      
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      January 29, 2018 1:07pm
All_on_Red

Ms Donna Brazile
Former Chair, Democratic National Committee
Dear Ms Brazile,
‘The Senate Judiciary Committee has a constitutional duty to conduct oversight ofthe FBI andthebroaderDepartmentofJustice. Partofthatdutyinvolvesensuringthatlawenforcement efforts are conducted without improper political influence.’
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-01-25%20CEG%20LG%20to%20Brazile%20(Steele%20Dossier).pdf
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January 29, 2018 10:49am
- stephieboy
  
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  All on Red , a dead link .
  
  Fake ?
  
  LOL
  
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  January 29, 2018 11:24am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Heres a better link.
    Click on the links within to see letters to Podesta, Wasserman Schulz, Brazile and others
    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-graham-send-batch-letters-related-potential-political-influence-fbi
    
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    January 29, 2018 12:19pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , so a certain Senator has sent a batch of letters ….
      
      Big deal !
      
      Still awaiting the NISA memo four page disclosure !
      
      Time line please ?
      
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      January 29, 2018 12:39pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘certain Senator’
        Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee
        It’s FISA not NISA.
        
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        January 29, 2018 12:49pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Still awaiting the” FISA” memo four page disclosure !
        
        Time line please ?
        
        #ReleaseTheMemo and the conservative war on the FBI, explained
        
        How one four-page memo took Republicans — and Trump-Russia probe detractors — by storm.
        
        https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/24/16919910/releasethememo-explained-trump-russia
        
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        January 29, 2018 3:19pm
Jack5

America’s sham-Indian senator, Elizabeth Warren, has been criticised by a Cherokee for Warren’s false ethnic claims.

Warren has been ridiculed by Trump as “Pocohontas”, but the Cherokee apparently don’t like that, either.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/01/28/cherokee-woman-blasts-elizabeth-warren-claiming-native-american-ancestry
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January 29, 2018 11:04am
- Jack5
  
  Just who is, and who isn’t indigenous in North America is becoming contentious.
  
  Here’s another example. Novelist Joseph Boyden has become a spokesman for “First Nations” people in Canada – supposedly as a member of the Metis, the half million or so mixed European-Indian Canadians.
  
  Now Canadian’s indigenous communities are saying he isn’t one of them.
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/world/americas/canada-joseph-boyden-indigenous-canadians.html
  
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  January 29, 2018 11:21am
  - Jack5
    
    Meanwhile, in NZ, an Ancestry DNA test seems to have “shown” that a woman who has some white ancestry is in fact fully Maori?
    
    Perhaps someone of scientific bent can tell us whether this is possible, or it is an illustration of the quality of Ancestry DNA tests.
    
    The report, reproduced from last year, talks of “genetic flukes”.
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11971310
    
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    January 29, 2018 11:39am
    - fernglas
      
      Fake science. Those ancestry DNA tests are completely unreliable
      
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      January 29, 2018 2:36pm
  - kowtow
    
    That’s not very diverse and inclusive of them!
    
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    January 29, 2018 3:30pm
- kowtow
  
  Fauxcahontas.
  
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  January 29, 2018 3:29pm
lifesgood

I heard Red Radio’s political commentator session late this morning. They had some man called Steve from the left and Matthew Hooton who they announce is from the right. Matthew is no more from the right than Jacinda Ardern. Both Steve and Matthew were waxing lyrical at how marvellous Jacinda is, how she has achieved nearly everything she said she would in the first 100 days, how fantastic it was that she would spend 5 days in Waitangi, how competent this government is etc, etc, etc. Bloody Red Radio, they can’t even have a right wing commentator to balance things as they claim, they bring in a phony, closet lefty and think that is good enough.
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January 29, 2018 12:33pm
- stephieboy
  
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  lifesgood , who do you think would be suitable against Steve ?
  
  Cameron Slater or Leighton Smith ?
  
  LOL
  
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  January 29, 2018 12:37pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Septicboy.
    
    When will you stop asking inane questions and apologise to Maggy?
    
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    January 29, 2018 1:33pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Don the Kiwi ,
      
      apologise for what exactly ?
      
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      January 29, 2018 3:23pm
- artemisia
  
  I listened to it as well, 20 minutes of my life gone though not completely as I was multitasking.
  
  The commentators in this slot pretend to be polite and give credit where it is due. In practice it doesn’t take much to see their nods to ‘the other side’ are carefully selected to show they are reasonable people who can see the good in any person or policy.
  
  Damning unimportant stuff with extremely faint praise.
  
  They would get more listeners if they did invite Mr Slater on. Not the listeners they want though.
  
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  January 29, 2018 1:35pm
Jack5

New Zealand’s immigration chaos:

From Stuff:

Nearly half of the 11,000 migrant exploitation and fraud tipoffs sent to Immigration New Zealand were not investigated in the six years to 2017.

From the 5700 cases that were investigated, less than 150 prosecutions were made.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/100860602/immigration-nz-has-to-pick-and-choose-cases-to-investigate
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January 29, 2018 1:20pm
MCos

I hear Cape Town is going to run out of water.
Whose fault is this? Same with any of these things probably the othe bloke, but it seems that devastating droughts and rising temperatures are not helping matters.
I wonder how this will effect the Stormers who are based there? Presumably the stadium will have to truck in water for the showers.
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January 29, 2018 1:55pm
- holysheet
  
  At least the hated white man cannot be blamed.
  Leave them alone and the place goes backward just like Rhodesia has with most of the industrious whites having left. Now that is a shit hole of a country.
  
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  January 29, 2018 2:31pm
  - stephieboy
    
    , always on standby to add a nasty slant to obviously a water drought
    
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    January 29, 2018 3:25pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      50 thousand whites killed in Haiti by the blacks. Now thats a real shithole.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:53pm
      - realityczech
        
        Agent, I have read stories by aid workers who have worked all over the world. They said the Haitians were the most vile people they had ever met. They screwed over and abused the aid workers, each other, anyone. Terrible people.
        
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        January 29, 2018 10:00pm
- Hollyfield
  
  Last week I was told that competitors in a swimming event in Cape Town are all required to take bottles of water to pour in the pool. This was from a relative of one of the competitors in an upcoming event in Cape Town.
  
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  January 29, 2018 2:41pm
Manolo

Mayor Khan of Londonistan at his worst:
https://freespeechtime.blogspot.com/2017/10/muslim-mayor-of-london-defends-muslims.html
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January 29, 2018 3:07pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo , the same Hezbollah that sided with Al Assad and Russia against ISIS and Rebel factions !
  
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  January 29, 2018 3:31pm
  - Manolo
    
    Yes, the same Muslim criminal association.
    
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    January 29, 2018 5:37pm
- Digmen1
  
  I can’t believe how Londoners voted for a muslim mayor.
  I also can’t understand why Germans vote for Merkel, instead of shooting her.
  
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  January 29, 2018 5:28pm
  - GazzaW
    
    Same scenario as Auckland. Centre-right voter apathy.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:44pm
  - realityczech
    
    “I can’t believe how Londoners voted for a muslim mayor.”
    
    Don’t know why. London is a Muslim town. The Poms sold out their culture years ago.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:55pm
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      New Aotearoa
      Welcoming weirdos and religious zealots in by the plane load since 1985.
      
      English level of a five year old and never speaks English anyway, well come on down the price is right.
      
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      January 30, 2018 6:54am
UpandComer

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-28/fbi-releases-docs-claiming-rt-founder-beat-himself-death-his-hotel-room

Lol so the Russia Today guy who ran an effective critique of Obama and Hillary showed up dead. In his home in the United States.

Blunt force trauma injuries to the lower and upper extremities, particularly the back of the head and chest.

The FBIs verdict.

He got so drunk that he fell on things until he beat himself to death.

The US is a banana republic rotten from the top down with the exception of the President.

He has to impose the death penalty on people in the FBI. It will take a lot of work to make the case given the cold war against him, but he has to do it. If he can execute ten people for their criminal acts, the rest won’t keep doing it, even under a DNC administration.

I wonder just how long the US has been a banana republic.

What a joke. Whether it’s mobile phones wiping themselves of data for no reason at all, or wealthy media magnates who aren’t a “”media magnates”” beating themselves to death, the FBI sure aren’t corrupt scum.
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January 29, 2018 3:14pm
- stephieboy
  
  Upandcomer , lets wait and see if this goes the way of the Seth Ritch and Clinton body count conspiracies .
  
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  January 29, 2018 3:33pm
  - Inandout
    
    Then there was the curious case of Vince Foster. He ‘topped himself’ a day after having a run in with Hillary, a woman he was rumoured to be rooting. Killed himself with the right hand though he was left handed, the gun was still in his hand (most unusual in suicide cases), and he had time to file off the serial number. Amazing guy.
    
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    January 29, 2018 4:28pm
    - cmm
      
      Hmmm
      
      “Killed himself with the right hand though he was left handed, the gun was still in his hand (most unusual in suicide cases), and he had time to file off the serial number”
      
      Sounds like Robin Bain’s modus operandi.
      
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      January 29, 2018 4:56pm
      - Longknives
        
        “Sounds like Robin Bain’s modus operandi”
        
        Case closed then!
        Judith, Rowan, Nostalgia and Notsofast will be along any minute…
        
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        January 29, 2018 5:27pm
- MCos
  
  “The US is a banana republic rotten from the top down with the exception of the President.”
  
  That’s our opinion. Other people might say it’s rotten at the top including the president.
  I don’t live there and from my experience it’s not a good idea to pass judgement of somewhere you’re not familiar with.
  
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  January 29, 2018 4:52pm
sbk

a piss to far…the Steele dossier…the Democratic panic is palpable…#release thememo.
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January 29, 2018 4:17pm
- sbk
  
  oops ..Democrats.
  
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  January 29, 2018 4:22pm
cmm

Dave Garret’s recent provocative article on game fishing had me thinking last night how attitudes have changed over the years – not only in what we find Ok to do, but also in what we expose or kids to.

My grandmother grew up in Newfoundland (Canada). It was a tough life back then, even if you were part of a very wealthy family like she was. When the sea was frozen, the fishing boats stopped, but there was still work clubbing baby seals. My grandmother (pre-teen) and the other small kids would go out on the ice helping load the clubbed baby seals onto the sleds to be dragged back for processing. Bigger boys were clubbing and the bigger girls were in the sheds skinning.

Fast forward to the 1970s. The supermarkets in South Africa sold “Happy Pet” brand pet food made from whales. In about 1975 I went to a career expo put on for kids and one of the industries was trying to recruit people into whaling, showing films of the excitement of whale hunting and they gave you a chance to aim a real harpoon gun (loaded with a cap from a cap gun to go bang) and point and shoot at the whale movie.

Now people need smelling salts if we talk about catching fish.

What’s going to happen in the future? In 2070 will we still be allowed to swat flies or will we be expected trap them humanely and take them to the vet for euthanasia?
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January 29, 2018 4:48pm
- Longknives
  
  I am involved in the Racing Industry (Have been all my life)
  I hear some pretty disturbing rumours from people in the know that the current Virtue Signalling ‘Look how Progressive we are’ Labour/Green Government are planning to end the industry in New Zealand on Animal Welfare grounds.
  (Despite it being part of Kiwi Culture/ bringing in millions and employing thousands of Kiwis…)
  
  The World is going fucking mad.
  
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  January 29, 2018 5:31pm
  - Manolo
    
    No, it could not happen. It would be absolute madness.
    
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    January 29, 2018 5:35pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    So this new all weather racing track will be just for jockeys without the horses?
    
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    January 29, 2018 6:16pm
  - holysheet
    
    Over the drunken dwarfs dead body. He has far too much riding on his backing from the racing industry.
    Maybe once his demise has occured the gweens and liabore will get their way?
    
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    January 29, 2018 6:34pm
- GazzaW
  
  I horrified my kids and current mates with my stories of surviving the severe rationing in post-WW2 Britain. The rationing was even worse than during the war due to the bulk of Britain’s merchant ship fleet being sunk and the lack of cash reserves with which to source food overseas. The meat ration was about four ounces per week, one egg per person and dairy product when you could get it. Protein was very scarce.
  
  However, whale meat was quite frequently available off-ration as was horse meat. Any scruples you might have go rapidly out of the window when you’re genuinely hungry.
  
  We eat freerange now because we can afford it but I can’t stand the sanctimonious crusaders who want to ban caged bird eggs. Try telling a bloke on the minimum wage with a partner and a couple of kids that they should do away with their $7 tray of 30 eggs from Pak & Save and replace it with ten free range eggs. Freerange eating is a middle class luxury.
  
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  January 29, 2018 7:45pm
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    In one NZ history book it told of the year the country ran out of sugar. (1950s)
    
    Something written in such a matter of fact way – from the lens of the 21st century – the relative absurdity of it made me laugh. Monty Python style fact of history.
    
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    January 30, 2018 7:02am
DifferentPerspective

Reason #76,312 why National can’t win in 2020 – Chris Bishop

Honestly, how incredibly out of touch is Chris Bishop, having a go at the refreshing Heather du Plessis-Allen… – Soper after her on-the-money comments about the faux-religion of cycling.

He’s more of a bloody watermelon than the lying Greens! Of course, WCC (of the Island Bay cycleway fiasco) and NZTA (who wasted taxpayers money by buying their own mini-fleet of bikes and who have a cycle lobby group masquerading as policy advisors) – are going to say cycling numbers are up. But if you look at the numbers they show a meaningless increase:
– two thirds of four fifths of fuck all
to
– three thirds of four fifths of fuck all

Seriously, totally screwing up all all major roads in the city for a few hundred lycra road maggots is insanity.

HDPA was right and National and Chris Bishop need to get with the programme or they’re going to spend a lot of time warming the bench (on current showing well past 2020!) The stupid Labour Lite, virtue-signalling vacuousness is what lost them the election in 2017 – only utter morons would keep on following a losing strategy!

Don’t listen to him HDPA – you are travelling in a saner direction.
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January 29, 2018 5:10pm
- nasska
  
  ….”how incredibly out of touch is Chris Bishop”…..
  
  It’s worse than you think. Last year, on Twitter, he posted a photo of himself cuddling some mangy, worm-ridden cat & now he’s backing road lice.
  
  He should hand in his man card immediately! 🙂
  
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  January 29, 2018 5:46pm
  - realityczech
    
    I would be interested to see a study done into the environmental impact of cycling. Taking into account the millions of tons of CO2 produced in creating cycleways, the destruction of vegetation in the use of margin land, and the massive increases in congestion caused by road lice destroying traffic flow.
    
    This is all in addition to the CO2 cyclists create with their SUV’s when they are not playing on the road.
    
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    January 29, 2018 5:51pm
- GazzaW
  
  HDPA now spends her working week in Auckland and has obviously noted the massive fucked up mess created by Auckland City who have tried their level best to make cycling king. Interesting that the Auckland City cycling budget has just been slashed by 90%, there are anti-cycling protests and middle class influential suburbs such as Westmere and Grey Lynn have pitched in as their trendy shops and cafes lose their parking spaces for the creation of cycling lanes.
  
  It makes my blood boil as I speed past totally empty cycling lanes on the side of the motorway costing tens of millions of ratepayers dollars.
  
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  January 29, 2018 7:54pm
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    You have to be a bit mental to cycle big kms every day.
    I’m the only sane one, yeah ?
    
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    January 30, 2018 7:12am
AgentBallSack

I see the threat to stephie to report his posts has actually borne some fruit in that the little shit has stopped his asking for definitions of Alt-Right and implying commentators are. Don’t let up Kiwibloggers, if he says anything that slanders even by proxy, anyone on this blog click the report button
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January 29, 2018 5:30pm
- Nostradamus
  
  AgentBallSack:
  
  Stephieboy’s current tally on this GD thread is 40 comments out of 322 comments – 12%. Goodness knows what the downtick ratio would be like. Lucia Maria developed an impressive tool to easily capture those statistics.
  
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  January 29, 2018 5:44pm
  - nasska
    
    Come back PhilU…..all’s forgiven. 🙂
    
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    January 29, 2018 5:47pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      That’s an interesting name you bring up, Nasska. At some point, I must see if I can hunt down his last contribution to Kiwiblog. My recollection is he disappeared without any grand announcement. Of course, his Whoar blog has gone from strength to strength, and is only rivalled by Redbaiter’s twitterverse I believe?
      
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      January 29, 2018 5:49pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        He does raise his interesting commenting style at the stranded on occasion. Though I havent visited since pre election times. Still the same bullshit from him. We’re not missing anything. I don’t think he does intelligent conversation, so we are spared 😎
        
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        January 29, 2018 6:56pm
    - stigie
      
      ……eh…..??
      
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      January 29, 2018 6:00pm
    - GazzaW
      
      …….not quite nasska. Too many recollections of PhilU in my early days at Whaleoil before I got banned by Fuehrer Pete.
      
      PhilU was beyond the pale.
      
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      January 29, 2018 8:04pm
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    stuffie dreams of making New Aotearoa 12% Muzzlosers. That’s why.
    
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    January 30, 2018 7:13am
Hugh Pavletich

How Phil Twyford wants to fix the renting crisis | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/100973455/how-phil-twyford-wants-to-fix-the-renting-crisis

New Housing Minister Phil Twyford has several plans to make life easier for renters, but has ruled out rent controls.

Instead the new minister is clear that in his view the only way to seriously keep rents in check is to greatly increase supply. … read more via hyperlink above …
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January 29, 2018 5:55pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Hugh:
  
  As a property market legend (in your own mind) are you able to advise Penny on her options given the pending house sale? Is it possible for her to stay in Auckland? Or should she go and live with you in Christchurch?
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:01pm
- realityczech
  
  “greatly increase supply”
  
  Saying it will not achieve anything more than dredging in a few votes from dreamers.
  
  The only issue is how this will be done. Results are what matter.
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:12pm
- Doubledimp
  
  If you remove the consequence of being evicted to a bad tenant, they will have no incentive to keep the property tidy or well maintained. I would bet very few people in the Labour caucus have actually been landlords. News flash Labour, not everyone is sweetness and light, some people are feral and contemptuous of others and their property. Seems like Mr Twyford is living up to his middle name (“Stoner”).
  
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  January 29, 2018 7:05pm
- Doubledimp
  
  From the article – “required inclusion of a formula for how those rent rises will be calculated on every tenancy agreement.”
  
  That’s “Rent Control” by another name!
  
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  January 29, 2018 7:08pm
- Digmen1
  
  This is the third article on Stuff today that has a comments section.
  And the number of upticks for right wing or anti COL posts is astounding.
  It must really annoy Stuff.
  
  How did the right loses the election, oh thats right it was a womens magazine article on stardust. And a whole lot of broken promises and targets and an octogenarian who only just got over 5%
  
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  January 29, 2018 7:09pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Lately I have noticed WaPo hate articles against Trump that Stuffed rehash are getting lots of comments pro Trump and lots of downticks for the ‘retarded big hands orange cheeto’ comments. Is Stuff redpilling the average person with the constant slander I wonder? Even the Air Force 1 article came out overwhelmingly in favour for Trump.
    
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    January 29, 2018 7:15pm
  - GazzaW
    
    ……and gullible dickheads who trusted Peters to do the right thing Digmen.
    
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    January 29, 2018 8:09pm
- KiWombat
  
  I’d be interested to know where in Wellington he intends the 30,000 new homes to be constructed. There just ain’t enough undeveloped land without moving way out into the back blocks.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:02pm
- GazzaW
  
  That’s strange Hugh. Each and every week I heard Twitford deride Nick Smith who held the strong view that the housing crisis was linked to supply.
  
  And here’s me thinking that it was all due to buyers with Chinky sounding names.
  
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  January 29, 2018 8:14pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Are there any Chinese people in the Labour Party? In the coalition? If not then why not? I thought MMP was supposed to represent everyone? Seems we are over represented by people who can see problems and under represented by those who can fix them.
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:09pm
realityczech

“As I’ve become more and more “race aware” over the past year”

EAD, yeah you were such a cultural relativist before you big lefty you! 🙂

I am of the view that:

1. There are cultures I prefer.
2. That all people are entitled to protect their culture.
3. That protecting ones culture, and regarding it as superior, does not justify mistreatment of other cultures.

If we want to keep people out of NZ who come from country X it does not follow that we mistreat the good folk from country X who are already here, or that we can not maintain trade and business ties. It is really about respecting identity and difference, as opposed to PC virtue signalling and intolerance.
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January 29, 2018 6:09pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  It’s okay to be white
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:45pm
  - RalphT
    
    Actually it can be fun
    
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    January 29, 2018 9:09pm
- stephieboy
  
  rc , nobody is stopping you
  
  Whats the problem?
  
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  January 29, 2018 7:01pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Fuck off Chang
    
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    January 29, 2018 7:17pm
stigie

They have to auction the cat stench ridden hovel first Nostra, i think the AC has a huge fight on it’s hands with sit in protests and fucking glitter everywhere..?
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January 29, 2018 6:10pm
- Nostradamus
  
  They’re called the great unwashed for a reason, Stage!
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:14pm
- realityczech
  
  With her history of violence against police I will be expecting they send in the dogs and taser her. Health and Safety requires they implement controls to minimise the risk to workers, using available industry accepted methods. The other option is to simply shoot her, as they would in most jurisdictions.
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:21pm
  - holysheet
    
    Penny will be there waiting at the gate brandishing her angle grinder and pipe wrench, in an effort to keep the dogs away.
    
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    January 29, 2018 6:39pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      I hope she invites a TV station to record any hysterical scenes she’s planning on making. The recent “arrest video” over her Tiddles the Tree protest lacked the X-factor we’ve come to expect from Penny when she’s out protesting!
      
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      January 29, 2018 6:45pm
      - sooty
        
        Hit her with their minto stick!
        
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        January 29, 2018 9:14pm
- GazzaW
  
  Every organisation with the words Poverty, Coalition, Aotearoa, Action & Peoples in their titles will be at the eviction for their photo opps. A little tricky for Twitford though given that Comrade Goff is the evil destroyer in this instance.
  
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  January 29, 2018 10:03pm
Nookin

Last night Roger Federer won his 20th major. He has an absolutely outstanding record. Why then, does this miserable prick decide that it is necessary to prove that Mohammed Ali was greater and faced challenges that Federer and his sponsors never faced. Who fucking cares? Why cannot he just enjoy Federer for what he has achieved rather than getting in sly digs.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11984123
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January 29, 2018 6:18pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Because Federer only won because of his ‘white privilege’ and the fucking morons in the MSM are paid to keep on running this line.
  
  Got to get everyone feeling bad about their white privilege.
  
  Got to get everyone feeling bad about their neo-liberal patriarchy.
  
  Classic divide and conquer tactics.
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:24pm
  - Manolo
    
    Do not dignify the hack, do not read him.
    
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    January 29, 2018 6:31pm
- Longknives
  
  Rattue is drowning in White Guilt- He wrote an article recently calling for Cricket to be banned because he perceives it as ‘Too White’.
  
  As for “There is one shocking black mark against Ali’s name, the disgraceful race-linked taunting of the noble Joe Frazier”
  Rattue clearly knows very little about Ali- He taunted opponents racially (and all manner of personal insults) for years!!
  
  *Personally I rate Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano higher than Ali…(Here comes Kimbo in 3.2.1..)
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:25pm
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    I’m really surprised that NZ has not produced some bloody PI type person that just smacks the living fuck out of the ball scoring 100 runs in 30 mins and then going off for a feed of KFC.
    
    They’ve got the physique surely. I know, I know – everything else missing.
    
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    January 30, 2018 7:20am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Always hard to compare different athletes from varying sports across different eras. One of Federer’s lasting legacies, along with that sublime backhand, was his class on and off the court. No affairs, no taunting and no narcissistic self accolades. If he lost, the other guy was usually better and he said so in three languages. The greatest tennis player of all time for mine.
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:55pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    No affairs, no taunting and no narcissistic self accolades.
    I don’t think I have ever seen Roger question a line decision with anything but a wry smile. Think back to that wanker McEnroe. Federer is a class sportsman indeed.
    
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    January 29, 2018 6:59pm
    - Longknives
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0hK1wyrrAU
      
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      January 29, 2018 7:06pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        lol blast from the past
        
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        January 29, 2018 7:10pm
  - Longknives
    
    Nadal has a pretty impressive Head to Head record against your ‘Greatest of All Time’…
    And Borg has the best winning strike rate in Grand Slam Tournaments..
    
    *Big Federer fan and he is certainly an absolute legend but THE Greatest’??
    
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    January 29, 2018 7:03pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      I would put Nadal as the greatest clay player but he certainly runs a close second to Federer as current players go.
      
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      January 29, 2018 7:05pm
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      Nadal does have an impressive record against The Fed I agree. He also had a propensity for remarkably quick recovery *cough* from surgery and major injury. His unsportsmanlike arrogance in going over time persistently was recently commented on in the media.
      The Ice Borg was a delight to watch. What would he have been like with modern equipment technology?
      
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      January 29, 2018 7:10pm
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        Borg playing modern game ?
        Likely shithouse.
        
        And as for GOAT debate.
        If you start from 2008 – Roger is still *third* behind Rafa and Nole.
        
        I mean – who gives a fuck how many losers he beat before they got out of nappies – hehehe
        
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        January 30, 2018 7:23am
- stephieboy
  
  Nookin , one things Ali had a lot more colourful personality whilst Federer strikes me as rather dour. .
  
  However in terms of sporting achievements we are comparing apples and oranges IMO
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:59pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    I thought you were more a budding apricot type guy stephie
    
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    January 29, 2018 7:11pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Ali dodged the draft and fought overseas to avoid tax obligations and the hate he engendered by coming out for Islam and the Black Panthers against whites.
  Federer plays tennis.
  
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  January 29, 2018 9:16pm
MCos

The temperature in Melbourne, most liveable city in the world, stays over thirty until the small hours this morning and there’s a power cut!
Not only can’t some of the lucky buggers not watch Roger, but they have no air con!

On the plus side, they didn’t have to watch their puny cricket team. (I doubt if they were interested in ours)
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January 29, 2018 6:39pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Teams lose. I am more concerned that the Caps learn from this, regroup and beat the Aussies before a huge few tests against England. Must admit these 7pm games are hard for me to watch if we start losing, I put myself to bed at a decent hour. Last night was no exception. For a small country we have some serious cricketing weight, and unlike the All Blacks, there’s barely a stolen or purloined Polynesian player to be seen.
  
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  January 29, 2018 6:50pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    AgentBallSack:
    
    I put myself to bed at a decent hour.
    
    You don’t stay up to watch Hugh being interviewed on the late-night news?
    
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    January 29, 2018 6:52pm
    - stigie
      
      Would rather watch NZ losing in the cricket !~
      
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      January 29, 2018 6:57pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Just for you Stigie: 25 minutes of your life that you’ll never get back!
        
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        January 29, 2018 7:21pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Nosty I don’t watch news, much safer for my TV, wine glasses and blood pressure
      
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      January 29, 2018 7:08pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    While I understand the necessity for testing out new players; why on earth would you change a winning team in the middle of a series? That debacle in Auckland took all the momentum away from the side.
    
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    January 29, 2018 6:58pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      I must admit I am not a fan of Southee due to his expensive ODI stats but lately he has really impressed me. I would have had him dropped a year ago to the detriment of the team. Sodhi lost us the game last night with his last over, and Williamson with his bulwark defence style of playing. Would rather see Kane smash it and lose trying than playing like he’s saving the game as an opener.
      
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      January 29, 2018 7:04pm
      - stigie
        
        Pakistan have great bowlers, smashing into leg stump on a full length at 140km, just unplayable and damn good to watch.
        I just hope this is not the start of a slump..?
        
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        January 29, 2018 7:13pm
      - Digmen1
        
        That’s a bit unfair on Sodi, it was the earlier batsmen who let the target get so big for the last over.
        
        What was it. 35 runs needed or something?
        
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        January 29, 2018 7:15pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Digimen, Kane shouldnt open with that mindset in T20s is my opinion. It’s not that sort of game. 8 runs off 14 balls as an opener is not good enough. I know he always picks his RR up in later overs but in T20s we dont have the time for that. Theres a reason BMac is the worlds highest T20 run scorer. Congrats to Guppy for making 2nd though.
        
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        January 29, 2018 7:22pm
  - Digmen1
    
    I was at the match last night, and we only just lost.
    It was a close game, we just lost three wickets in close sucession.
    Compare that to years ago when we used to collapse.
    
    And Pakistan and NZ are the top two T20 nations!
    
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    January 29, 2018 7:13pm
  - MCos
    
    There might only be one Polynesian, Ross Taylor from Lower Hutt, in the current Blackcaps, but there’s a few others who started life in other countries.
    
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    January 29, 2018 7:33pm
    - GazzaW
      
      A couple of Saffas, a couple of Indians and a Zimbabwean come to mind and there are doubtless others. In the meantime our Ben Stokes plays for England, McCullum for Brisbane and both Vettori and Fleming coach in the BBL.
      
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      January 29, 2018 8:31pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Ross was born in Lower Hutt Hospital, same as myself. He is as Kiwi as you get.
      
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      January 29, 2018 9:58pm
      - GazzaW
        
        Well said ABS. The pommy MSM perpetually accuses the ABs of pirating PI players when the vast majority of them are second and third generation Kiwis.
        
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        January 30, 2018 8:58am
MCos

Kiwi Clarrie Grimmett is the best bowler ever to wear the baggy green, apart from Trevor Chappell.
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January 29, 2018 8:55pm
Left Right and Centre

Why I love foreign immigrants #149-3662-e

Coming out of disabled toilet – three Asians.
Middle-aged woman and two girls.
Girls aged 10-14 ?
Old enough to *take a piss by themselves* I’d say.
Or whatever they were doing.
I’d hate to know what on earth they were all doing *in the disabled toilet* together.

Why do all three of them need to be in there ?
They are just farkin weird – and I hate seeing all of their weird shit.

They’ve all got that stupid green look on their face eh ? Farking morons.

Oh yeah – I saw some loser older gangly white bloke *in his farking cycle helmet at the checkout* looking like a total dickhead. But – probably a kiwi – so what can you do ?

400+ comments to browse – far out man.
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