General Debate 22 January 2018

Email
Facebook
Twitter
Comment432

Uncategorized
General Debate

Comments (432)

Login to comment or vote

waikatogirl

Kids Can reports a record number of children needing financial support to return to school.
Who would have guessed that bringing up your children is expensive. //
47 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:03am
- hullkiwi
  
  Yes, it doesn’t help when your child’s school gives you their stationery list at the end of the school year for the next. However, said list is 4 times what is required, it must be delivered to the school on day one, and you are advised that if you don’t comply & stationery runs out you will be invoiced for any supplied by the school. Though sadly we know that if you provide the notified quota, the school happily dip into the pool of stationery to provide to those kids whose parents cannot afford the stationery. Welcome to socialist NZ 2018 style.
  
  36 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:21am
- GazzaW
  
  I agree WG but the need to provide these newfangled school uniforms, EDs and exercise books must have come as a massive shock to parents. If they had been aware they could have put some money aside and not blown it all at Christmas
  
  At least parents don’t have to pay school donations this year – or do they? Is Chippy forking out or not?
  
  21 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:22am
  - KevOB
    
    The racket is the schools have teamed up with commercial suppliers of uniforms and stationery for kickbacks. It appears tainted with illegality.
    
    22 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:32am
    - hullkiwi
      
      You’ll find it has always been that way.
      
      13 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 8:42am
      - KevOB
        
        Why hasn’t it been stopped–it smells of secret commissions. Schools making a profit from school uniforms or supplies are effectively taxing pupils. That is illegal.
        
        8 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 1:56pm
      - Harriet
        
        Not in aussie….I did the first year at high school[catholic] shop at Officeworks yesterday for au$50.20………although I did have to pay the school directly $40 for a scientific calculator. Big W was cheaper but I didn’t find that out until on the way home where I spent $21 for school books also. About $70 in total which isn’t bad I’d suspect.
        
        4 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 3:33pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      Agree. The schools have taken over as main stationery suppliers to the students in a lot of cases. This is how it works. The school goes to School Supplies who lavish them with gifts (beware of Greeks bearing gifts) depending upon the amount spent with said company. The school then set themselves up as the local stationer and cranks up the price on some items in order to make a profit – they say it’s part of their fundraising strategy. The local stationer and the school could do a deal which would end up with the school earning themselves a cash rebate from the local. But no, the school much prefers to try and corner the market not to mention create a hell a lot of work for themselves. Then after back to school is all done and dusted, the Chairman of the PTA visits the local and tries to hit them up for sponsorship for their gala day etc. No point in going back to the company they sourced their school supplies from as they’re not interested. After all, they’ve lavished them with coffee machines etc. So the local tells them to ‘naff off’ in a very polite way. Can’t have it all schools. You either support your community or you don’t. That’s how it works. Corporates do not sponsor small fish.
      
      16 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:36am
  - waikatogirl
    
    That’s it Gazza, but don’t anyone have the audacity to inquire where the household income is spent/wasted.
    
    Budgeting and personal restraint is not part of the equation.
    
    19 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:32am
  - holysheet
    
    Chippy forking out?
    You mean the taxpayer, not these useless fuckers in govt.
    
    25 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:38am
- marcw
  
  But the obesity epidemic will have been solved – with 6 weeks of no food for the children while school was closed.
  
  22 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:13am
  - KKKKatee
    
    There have no signs of ‘poverdy’ while the kids have been on holiday…….
    
    21 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:16am
- Doubledimp
  
  My partner points out she has done 2 things to mitigate this, she started saving for her child’s secondary education when he started primary school and now has enough saved to cover all expenses (including a possible overseas trip), and she filtered out potential boyfriends (until I came along 2 years ago) to avoid having any more children to support (and we have agreed not to have any more kids so take the proper measures). I am seriously impressed in how she manages her money.
  
  17 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:02am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Smart woman.
    Might be a keeper.
    
    3 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:51pm
KiWombat

Prediction for the day

WeeWinnie will serve 12 months as DPM and will retire. He will retire on a pension based on his salary as DPM, considerably more than that of a list MP. There may even be a “bonus” as he will have been acting PM for a time.

This will pave the way for his second in command to become DPM. His deputy will be 64 at that time, he could serve as DPM for a year or two, attain retirement age and then throw in the towel as well.

So during the same parliament we could end up with two DPM’s retiring on two DPM parliamentary superannuation packages.

Now it is easier to understand what may, or may not, be in the 30-something page agreement, and why we will never see it released !
39 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:03am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  A prediction that won’t happen. Much more likely that Winston will want to stand in 2020 and go through to 2023. He will back himself to drive NZF to do better than 5%. The transfer of power within NZF will all happen between 2020 and 2023.
  
  NZF is going to be desperate to get big wins in the next two years. Leadership changes won’t help that. Labour also needs NZF to get big wins. Many of them will be things the metro-liberals in Labour hate, more roads and more rural development. However, I guess they also know that they are unlikely to get back as govt unless NZF gets over 5%, so they will suck it up.
  
  I do think the six weeks of Winston being Acting PM will end up being 3 months. I don’t think a lot of people will hold that against Jacinda and Labour. She will ease herself back into the role of PM during the second six weeks.
  
  9 26
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:14am
  - kevn
    
    WM… Interesting that you don’t feature the greens in any way.
    Question, is winnie up to it all healthwise? There have been lots of observations.
    
    28 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:20am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      “ There have been lots of observations”
      
      Such as ?
      
      3 35
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 8:50am
      - sooty
        
        No way! FPP election style, next time NZF, Greens , Maori party are history! They can prance and preen all they like, but the voters will kick them to the curb.
        
        23 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 8:59am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      kevn
      The Greens are essentially now part of the Labour bloc. National is likely to continue to outpoll them as a bloc.
      
      Anyway that makes NZF the key for Labour being in government, just as it is now. In contrast National really needs NZF out of the picture. Winston is no more likely to go with National in 2020 than he was last year. In fact much less likely. So it is in Labours interest to help him get 5%. It will be a different story in 2023, assuming NZF is still in Parliament.
      
      I heard Matthew Hooton on the RNZ this morning being a lot more negative about National than I think is likely. While it seems that Jacinda’s personal popularity will get a boost that may not translate to Labour especially if they look like not fulfilling their commitments.
      
      It is not like 2002 or 2011 when the incumbents were almost certain to win, and indeed did so.. The current government is very vulnerable. It is much more like 1975 or 1960.
      
      9 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 1:45pm
      - Harkman
        
        This is pretty accurate but I would add, Winston is unlikely to get over 5% next time because he was a protest vote, when protest votes turn out to have consequences their vote always crashes the next time round. But say next time around National & Act get about 45% and Labour gets 38/39% with the Greens pulling just over 5%, surely Labour will realize that a deal with Winston for a northern seat where they pull Willow Jean Prime or whoever off the ballot maybe necessary took get Winston’s 3.8% to count. But I’m not so sure Shane Jones will be around after the next election, he isn’t liking this.
        
        8 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 2:22pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        Wayne, I agree with your analysis. However, my question is, what is Hooton’s problem with National other than the near demise of ACT? He has had a downer on National for some time & he has been blinkered in his analysis of the CoL’s performance. Does National still have a cabal of electorates within the Auckland region still trying to run things as per their view of the world. If this is so, it is destructive & those who were in the old Auckland Division witnessed it in the early 1980s.
        
        3 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 4:14pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Winnie won’t be feeling the love with all the limelight on the new mother-to-be. This is when Winnie will sooner or later act out, lob some sort of bomb to regain the attention he craves. Good or bad doesn’t matter as long as Winnie is centre of attention when he deems it best for Winston. ?
    
    42 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:21am
    - G152
      
      And taking orders from a woman.
      Peters must be teetering on the edge of a breakdown.
      And since he’s never successfully worked with any other party I have my popcorn at the ready 🙂
      
      31 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 8:29am
      - ztev
        
        Worked ok when he ‘was taking orders from helen’
        
        Worked well with labour for 9 years…mmmm ..is that why he didnt choose national. Who would have guessed.
        
        Is the weather, the stupid is huge this week
        
        0 11
        Report
        January 22, 2018 4:40pm
  - KiWombat
    
    3 months? God forbid !
    Bet the liquor bill will be through the roof in that time
    
    17 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:23am
  - KevOB
    
    You’re presupposing Winston’s health permits.
    
    13 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:33am
    - Inandout
      
      His health must be a factor, considering the years of battering his body has taken. Genetics do figure in longevity, but Winston has been pushing his luck to the extreme. I would suspect he would never have his health exposed to the media flame like Trump did, because he would fail in most tests.
      
      15 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 8:56am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    WM interesting analysis. Quite thought-provoking – I’m not sure why so many downticked.
    
    You give JA’s constitution possibly more credit than is due, I imagine ‘relentless’ morning sickness, combined with her fragile emotional state will result in much wobbliness from JA in the lead up to the eviction of another of the missing million. If her fragility during the election is anything to go by (she came in to the election campaign late, got coddled into only doing friendly photo-op appearances yet even so she was looking tired, haggard and very drawn by the final week) she’s going to fall over sometime during April/May – followed by a long post-partum depression and she’s probably going to be the invisible PM for at least 6 months.
    
    Plus of course, childbirth changes all sorts of “of course I’m coming back to work straight away” resolutions. I’ve lost count of the number of strong, capable, career minded colleagues or staff who have done massive 180 turnarounds after sprog dropped.
    
    I think baby-brain will triumph and the best Labour can hope for is to bully JA into leading them into the 2020 campaign and stepping down almost immediately after the election (without telling the voters of her intentions, of course, she has form as a lying bitch after all).
    
    32 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:59am
    - KKKKatee
      
      The PM certainly has form when it comes to being uneconomical with the truth. All this hogwash about ‘transparency’. She’ll be wishing she never used that term as it turns out that she is the exact opposite. Lies like a flat fish as it so happens. And she thinks we don’t notice? Her legacy will be “the lying PM”.
      
      31 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:44am
    - Paulus
      
      It doesn’t matter, Heather H2 will do all the thinking for her, as she does already assisted by Helen H1 from afar or not so far.
      Helen’s dream has come true.
      Finish the destruction she left before and a sycophant to do it.
      
      16 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:51am
      - RF
        
        I believe we give the commie chic too much credit. I still believe she is a cunning but dense madam with someone in the background pulling her strings.
        
        Not so long ago she was always getting her arse
        handed to her during debates.
        
        6 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 1:08pm
      - MH
        
        she could be known as the Godmother….?
        
        2 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 2:00pm
      - ztev
        
        key always got the ‘arse’ in debates before 2008 election.
        
        Even one big interview for print media, Bill played chaperone as Johnny boy wasnt able to put two facts together.
        
        1 12
        Report
        January 22, 2018 4:43pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Funny DP how the majority observed the Commie Chick’s incompetence along with economical use of the truth or real facts during her election campaign. Then to be anointed by surprise to the PM role so far above her minimal level of competence. Now it turns out she is chasing the baby bonus this year as well after waiting 3 months to be sure it has “taken”.
      Most appreciate this will be more immense pressure on her already fragile condition and while it is possible to “hide” the pregnancy for a time the mental mayhem is much harder to conceal. However with the aid of the compliant Media party her every utterance will be grabbed to help conceal the failing COL performance as all party of the party plan. The majority who lack a pair of rose tinted glasses suspect that this cannot end well for NZ but know it will be milked to provide another smoke screen.
      
      7 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 3:30pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Day 4 and there’s still endless speculation and tittilation about this damned pregnancy like no one has ever been pregnant before.
      Are there really no cats up trees anywhere?
      
      2 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 7:55pm
- cmm
  
  I agree with most of what you have written except the bit about paving the way for his deputy.
  
  NZF has always been about Winnie, for Winnie. Once he retires and has his baubles lined up, he has no interest in anything else. NZF can crater and burn.
  
  This talk of “leaving a legacy” is all bullshit.
  
  37 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:17am
  - KiWombat
    
    Couldn’t agree more CMM, I’m not suggesting the deputy bit is part of WeeWinnie’s plan, but when a golden opportunity arises – who knows?
    
    13 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:26am
  - Paulus
    
    Watch the Martin Family ladies who really now run NZ First – they have power in their grasp when Winston “retires”.
    They have plans already.
    And they do not include Shane Jones or the little bald one who shafted Tracey Martin when she was Deputy.
    
    20 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:53am
    - KevOB
      
      Tracey martin’s voice “does her in”. It’s strident enough when in the house. On a campaign trail it would be like the banshees have arrived.
      
      14 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 10:04am
- Doubledimp
  
  I now really want to know what is in the 34 page coalition agreement. I bet there was loads of contingency statements for “if Jacinda becomes unavailable due to personal circumstances” added in the last few days, which would have been major red flags for anyone with half a political brain. And the fact that Winston first raised it’s existence makes me think he was being very mischevious about this.
  
  15 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:05am
flipper

Remember the Clark and food Nazi rules for schools?

Are we in for those again?

It seems that NSW parents do not like the “healthy” food option …..

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/hands-off-our-pies-australian-parents-reject-school-canteen-revolution-20180119-h0lbee.html
20 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:04am
- cmm
  
  We just need to recognise pies as cultural food – which they are.
  
  It’s quite common to see tourists commenting on NZ youtube videos etc “Geez I miss those kiwi pies.”. I’ve never seen “Geez I really miss hangi”.
  
  28 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:14am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    CMM’s comments are what my wife and I heard from European hitch hikers we picked up last week.
    
    13 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:17am
Paulus

How amusing it was to see on TV last evening the Baby talk fest of the Labour Party in Martinborough. Who were the men, not known to me as Labour Members smattered there.
Were they part of the Labour’s Creche meeting being held their in praise of the arrogant little girl who will cover the news until the next election.
Wedding next and another one before the Election.
Cannot lose – sod the Country.
28 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:04am
- CHFR1
  
  I am wondering if this is actually a good strategy, I fear the voters will get Jacinda fatigue. Add to the the question of her commitment to the country and job given she will have a toddler by then and a wedding to plan.
  
  30 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:11am
  - kowtow
    
    Said it before …..
    
    …..it’s the thicko older female voter.( a few males too)
    
    I heard more than a few being quoted “I was going to vote National but that lovely young thing is a breath of fresh air ,blah blah”
    
    So celebrate the universal franchise and low information voters.
    
    Those kind of voters can’t get enough of it. Think about it , they’ll be Shortland St fans.
    
    27 4
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:28am
    - SGA
      
      kowtow
      
      Said it before ….. it’s the thicko older female voter.( a few males too)
      
      To be pragmatic, I think you are being far too narrow. For a start, there will, I think, be plenty of career-mothers (and their partners) and aspiring career-mothers who will want her to succeed in both roles, and will cut her some slack as a result. And that might cut across traditional party lines.
      Just a thought.
      
      10 12
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 8:38am
      - kowtow
        
        “And that might cut across traditional party lines”
        
        So mothers and wimmin will vote for Labour because its leader is a pregnant woman,including wimmin who don’t normally vote Labour.
        
        I rest my case.
        
        14 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:14am
      - SGA
        
        Not exactly – a lot of New Zealanders are in households where the mother juggles a job (sometimes a very demanding job) and parenting. And, at this point in time, there are a lot of New Zealanders who were raised in families like that.
        All I’m saying is that these people aren’t going to want Ardern to fail as much as some of the Kiwiblog demographic (and they will cut her a bit more slack as a result). If anything, they would enjoy seeing her succeed.
        Feel free to disagree, but that’s how I see the lie of the land.
        
        6 9
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:22am
      - CHFR1
        
        SGA you may find that many of these mothers are like me and after 3 years of being told how amazing it is our current PM holds down a job and is a mother (like many of us) we will be sick of it and start to think “what makes her so special?”. That though is the kiss of death for her as we women can be bitches, especially to other women who seem to be getting special treatment for something we do on a daily basis.
        
        18 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:44am
      - SGA
        
        @CHFR1
        Yeah, perhaps – I’m more giving my impression of what I see around me now. Time will tell 🙂
        
        8 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:46am
      - Peter
        
        None of which has anything to do with running a country.
        
        6 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 10:14am
      - SGA
        
        @Peter
        No, it doesn’t. But that’s politics, I guess 🙂
        
        6 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 10:16am
      - kowtow
        
        SGA
        
        I don’t want Jax to fail as a mother. I wish her all the best in what is the world’s most important job.Bringing up children. I hope she ,and the father succeed and are great parents.
        
        But I’m sure as hell not going to vote for her and I can’t stand the sight of that prick Gayford.
        
        19 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 10:58am
      - SGA
        
        For heaven’s sake, kowtow, I wouldn’t waste my time telling you to vote for her.
        But… if you really think that the only people influenced are going to be “the thicko older female voter.( a few males too)”, then I think you are mistaken. What I’ve said above has (or will) probably come up in meetings of National Party strategists, imho.
        
        6 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 11:02am
  - billmurray
    
    CHFR1,
    There will not be a wedding;
    Clarke Gayford is only in this for the roof over his head.
    The free food.
    That’s it.
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 4:26pm
  - -D
    
    If she actually pulls it off I will publicly acknowledge that she is Wonder Woman.
    
    3 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 5:28pm
- kevn
  
  Paulus, Yep, just let public servants run things… no worries.
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:12am
- G152
  
  Nope. We just saw the parasites that attach themselves to political parties
  
  8 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:31am
- doggone7
  
  Good to see a few seconds of an insignificant news item with unlabelled and unnamed people brings out a festering pathetic comment. Lucky nothing major was going on.
  
  2 12
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:00am
- GazzaW
  
  Who is paying for the Martinborouh talkfest? I can almost buy that the taxpayer is footing the bill for MPs and support staff but who is paying for their families, Labour Party members and hangers-on?
  
  ztev is bound to know.
  
  18 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:26am
  - KevOB
    
    Don’t deny any party time out. For most MP’s it’s 24/7 on call–they’re the highest paid social workers in NZ. Everybody expects to be able to approach them for help or to berate them.
    
    4 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:10am
  - G152
    
    Have to wait for him to get back from the hoolie
    
    2 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 12:34pm
Manolo

Germany’s bleak future:
https://www.jewsnews.co.il/2017/12/25/chancellor-angela-merkel-said-that-germans-will-have-to-come-to-terms-with-more-mosques-than-churches-throughout-the-countryside.html

Chancellor Angela Merkel said that Germans have failed to grasp how Muslim immigration has transformed their country and will have to come to terms with more mosques than churches throughout the countryside, according to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung daily.
27 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:09am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  The problem for Merkel is that Volk actually have grasped how wholesale immigration has transformed their country.
  
  26 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:16am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Did the German State ever have a plan for what kind of post-war society it wanted to become?
  
  Was this situation of “more mosques than churches” foreseen? planned? or did it “just somehow happen without anyone raising a finger…”?
  
  23 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:21am
- kowtow
  
  Our media obsess about Trump and yet we see very little about Traitor Merkel and her inability , to date, to form a gummint. Because of her unilateral and illegal decision to flood Germany with hordes of Muslims. This from the woman who said ‘multikulti” was dead.
  
  If ever there was an example of the treachery of the elitist political class , she is it.
  
  27 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:40am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Germany’s bleak future
  
  Angela Merkel would have fitted in well with the folk from the Frankfurt School of Marxism that fled Germany in 1933 to take up residence in the USA.
  
  Even if you agree with the MSMs and Hollywoods view that the Nazis were the greatest Monsters to ever bestride the planet in the history of all mankind, the one thing you can’t doubt was their prescience.
  
  All of the ills befalling Germany and the West from multiculturalism to the forces of Cultural Marxism to a debt based monetary system that Nazis predicted have come to pass.
  
  https://redice.tv/news/12-things-you-were-not-told-about-adolph-hitler-and-nazi-germany
  
  “We will go down in history either as the world’s greatest statesmen or its worst villains.” – Hermann Goering
  
  13 9
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:53am
  - stephieboy
    
    “..that Nazis predicted have come to pass.”
    
    ??
    
    Unfortunately Hitler , Goering and their cronies chose the later !
    
    2 23
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:55am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      But their ideology lives on in the current generation of socialists like yourself SB who model and cheer on all the right behaviours:
      – rampant anti-semitism (bds etc)
      – black shirts a la antifa
      – shouting down of any opposing opinion
      – alignment with the evil cult of Islam
      
      20 3
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:04am
      - kowtow
        
        And state control over the individual ,rather than freedom of the individual.
        
        18 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:16am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        @ Different perspective.
        
        3 of yoir points are true…..to an extent (there was no “alignment with Islam though”)
        
        The part of history that is ignored however when we are taught about the rise of the Nazis is them acting as a bulwark of the West against Communism. Most of the comedy aspects of National Socialism (Black shirts, shutting down opposition etc.) were in defence of Germany against Communism. In addition to the Russian Revolution, the Nazis witnessed the murderous reign of terror by Bela Kun in Hungary and survived a Bolshevik takeover led by Jews Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Radek and Paul Levi.
        
        Remember when the Nazis came to power, the Marxists were the 2nd largest party and like modern times, were partaking in street violence against ordinary citizens.
        
        Many Communists fled to Western Europe in the years before WWII as it became clear there was no place for Communists and their sympathisers in the new Germany.
        
        3 7
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:22am
  - CHFR1
    
    EAD that would have to be one of the worst pieces of trash I have ever read.
    
    10 6
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:53am
cmm

Jacinda and her complicit MSM have now got the ultimate squirrel bomb for fogging all their stuff ups over the next 2.7 years.

Housing gets less affordable for students? Quick some articles on Jacinda’s secrets on how to stop her ankles swelling.

No trees planted? An article tracking how big baby X is.

Once the baby is born, there’s even more scope for this. Cutting teeth, first words, what does Clarke have in the nappy bag,…

Heck, the baby’s name is going to provide cover for a whole week. I’m picking Kate (as in Sheppard) if it is a girl.

You can guarantee there is going to be a file of these articles lined up and ready to go as soon as the shit goes anywhere near the fan.
45 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:11am
- lifesgood
  
  Marx if it’s a boy.
  
  22 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:15am
  - GazzaW
    
    Helen Heather if it’s a girl.
    
    16 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:28am
    - sooty
      
      Nah, Winston if it’s a boy!
      
      2 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 3:32pm
    - Duxton
      
      It will be a girl. If it had been a boy…….
      
      Well, let’s just say that she follows a very strange moral compass. It will suit her to have a girl. A boy, not so much.
      
      0 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 6:29pm
- KiWombat
  
  The sad part is that our media will probably fall for it each and every time – hang the real news, baby activities will sell the next edition every time !
  
  26 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:17am
  - cmm
    
    “The sad part is that our media will probably fall for it each and every time”
    
    They are part of it, not falling for it.
    
    38 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:19am
    - MCos
      
      With you’re having a guess at names it seems it’s not just the MSM that’s caught up in the hoopla surrounding the PM’s baby while most of the rest of the country puts it to one side & goes about their daily lives.
      
      14 4
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 8:38am
      - cmm
        
        No I’m not getting caught up in the names.
        
        I’m betting the name will be chosen for political reasons so that saying anything out of place will be taken as slagging off a Kiwi icon.
        
        Hence my prediction for Kate (as in Sheppard), though in my book Helen (as in Clarkenfuhrer) runs a close second.
        
        Boys: well clearly Ed (Hillary) must be in the mix…
        
        But for primo political points it has to be a girl so she can keep pushing the feminist message (… for my daughter and all the other young women growing up in NZ…)
        
        11 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:37am
      - sam green
        
        cmm
        “No I’m not getting caught up in the names.”
        
        Errr – yes you are.
        
        5 14
        Report
        January 22, 2018 11:18am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The media have given up on real news some time ago, it will be just more puerile baby crap in the copy than normal
    
    35 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:24am
    - Gabby
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      You could get the ball rolling by stopping fucking banging on about it pulla goon.
      
      3 34
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:31am
      - softail 1450
        
        grubbys drunk again,,,,,
        
        28 3
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:37am
      - Gabby
        
        softcock 14yo took a header over the apehangers again,,,,,,
        
        3 24
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:57am
  - tf78
    
    Just proves NZ doesn’t actually need a government.
    
    10 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:48am
- holysheet
  
  Alla Yana Arhern
  
  Alla, Russian for the goddess; from Allat, name of pre-Islamic Arabic goddess of fertility
  Yana
  Russian form of Helen.
  
  There you go, both her favorites covered.
  
  10 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:18am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I have got a fiver on Baby Mcbabyface
    
    39 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:25am
    - sooty
      
      Love it.
      
      9 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:03am
  - Harkman
    
    A boy will be called Fabian, as in Fabian Socialism.
    
    2 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 5:03pm
    - Harriet
      
      I’m going idol and neutral gender – Che. 😎
      
      Later on it’ll decide if it’s going to be a tomboy or a sissy and come out.
      
      3 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 6:09pm
- KiWombat
  
  Remember the headline about the demise of the “first cat?”
  Unless they learn to take a bit better care of the child than they managed with their cat, it could all be over in pretty quick time.
  
  PLUNKET ALERT !!
  
  21 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:42am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  cmm , life good etc , now stand back a bit and ask yourselves who outside your postings on KB actually cares a hoot !
  
  2 36
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:57am
  - lifesgood
    
    So why is our left wing MSM filling endless pages and TV time with garbage about this “miraculous”
    pregnancy?
    
    22 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:18am
  - VicParking
    
    About 100% more people who give a shit about your ravings Stephie ?
    
    12 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:56am
    - Duxton
      
      I know you mean, but a 100% increase on zero is still zero.
      
      2 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 6:44pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    stephieboy: why are you on here so frequently then?
    It’s obviously not your natural habitat is it?
    Are you paid by some group, organisation or PARTY to comment? Sad.
    
    7 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 4:43pm
- MH
  
  Helen as Godmother.
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 2:06pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  It’s working here on KB already.
  Most of the posts are speculating about this bloody foetus and the domestic arrangements of its parents.
  
  2 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:06pm
artemisia

Does Ms Ardern plan to work until she goes into labour? She says only that she will take 6 weeks leave after the baby is born, that Mr Peters and others will take up her roles for 6 weeks.

Some women do work right up to the day, but to me it is highly likely she will tke time off beforehand, possibly for medical reasons. She may have certain intentions but elderly primigravida, high profile / high stress job – not a great combination for health of mother or baby, or both.
30 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:11am
- Evadne
  
  Without fail, every single expectant first-time mother I have ever met (including myself) makes all sorts of predictions about how they will manage pregnancy / birth / baby /parenthood.
  
  Then they discover what reality is.
  
  Adern will be no exception. Unfortunately for her, all the predictions have been made in public, with massives of commentary from all and sundry, increasing the stress and pressure considerably.
  
  38 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:20am
  - hullkiwi
    
    I remember the prenatal classes telling how important it was to have a plan for the birth of our son. First plan out the window was the birthing plan…..& every other one since.
    
    33 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:34am
    - ztev
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      because everyone is the same as you?
      
      4 44
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:02am
      - sooty
        
        Thank god they, are all not the same as you!
        
        29 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:05am
      - labrator
        
        Because everyone is the same as you?
        
        So you don’t believe in the “gender pay gap”? Wow, you’re coming along in leaps and bounds.
        
        16 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:34am
      - Paulus
        
        Aren’t you in the Martinborough Creche Meeting ?ztev
        
        16 3
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:59am
    - artemisia
      
      “No battle plan ever survives first contact with the enemy”.
      
      14 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:12am
    - Piniwi
      
      Funny hullkiwi how quickly that happens but every parent knows there are no 2 baby arrival stories the same.
      
      2 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 3:47pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        True.
        
        2 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 4:21pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I read your post earlier today and have been thinking about it since then. It is the most prescient comment on here today.
    Thank you.
    
    0 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 4:37pm
  - doggone7
    
    Most predications are being made in public by people who hate Ardern.
    Mostly by people who also complain about the event/occurrence getting much media coverage.
    
    1 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:07pm
- godruelf
  
  Bit difficult to do the full PM duties once the No Fly rules kick in.
  
  30 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:25am
  - ztev
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    What no fly rules?
    
    2 37
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:02am
    - sooty
      
      There goes Harry and Meghans wedding!
      
      23 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:06am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Who says she was going to get an invite?
        
        13 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:13am
      - KKKKatee
        
        That would make a mockery of JA’s marxist beliefs – accepting an invitation to the Royal Wedding when her agenda is to turn NZ into a Republic. Besides which, she’ll be too far gone to get on an aeroplane.
        Bronagh Key certainly outshines Ardern in the elegance and class stakes…
        As does Mary English….
        
        31 4
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:59am
    - lifesgood
      
      As I thought ztev, you are a complete idiot…pregnant women cannot fly after 32 weeks. There helped you out.
      
      33 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:16am
      - CHFR1
        
        Actually it is in effect 26 weeks as no insurance company will cover you. You also do not want to fly via Singapore because if you are unfortunate enough to go into labour early and give birth to a boy in Singapore he is eligible for military service in that country.
        
        19 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:48am
      - ztev
        
        Wrong lifegooner
        Air NZ says
        :For a single baby with an uncomplicated pregnancy and clearance from your doctor or midwife: You can board flights over five hours, up to the end of the 35th week.
        You can board flights under five hours, up to the end of the 37th week.
        
        For you however , the snakes on a plane rule applies hahahaha
        
        0 12
        Report
        January 22, 2018 4:30pm
- KKKKatee
  
  At this stage Ardern doesn’t have a fucking clue about reality. One thing I find about motherhood is that one has to be able to change one’s plans. Babies do not go according to plan I’m afraid.
  Oh and as for going back to work at 6 weeks – the La Leche League Feminazis will be up in arms about depriving the baby of the breast…….
  Unless Ardern proposes to pump four hourly and send the breast milk to Auckland via courier……..
  Not a substitute for the real thing but breastmilk nonetheless…..
  
  24 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:52am
  - ztev
    
    The baby can come into the office.
    A nanny could be hired to help.
    No problem with mother and father staying in Premier house in Wellington.
    
    1 13
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 4:33pm
  - doggone7
    
    “At this stage Ardern doesn’t have a fucking clue about reality.”
    
    You reckon she should get in touch with you? You can be the Arrogant Oracle. You seem to have a good grasp, a definite fucking clue about the arrogant part of it.
    
    2 3
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:10pm
KiWombat

It would seem that the first boy was renowned for his “excellent cunnilingus skills” in a former life – see page 28

https://www.critic.co.nz/files/Critic-2012-20.pdf
23 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:12am
- lifesgood
  
  He sounds repulsive. What is the princess thinking? As I’ve predicted…it won’t last long.
  
  24 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:21am
- KiWombat
  
  On the same page is this:-
  “Gayford is currently seriously involved with Shortland Street’s Shavaughn Ruakere, better known as That Girl With The Freakishly Big Mouth” – is there a pattern arising?
  
  30 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:38am
  - KiWombat
    
    and this:-
    
    “Yet for Clarke, the road to true love has had many a hole.”
    
    Had to chuckle at that one !
    
    27 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:44am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Yes but is this true love now for the legend in his own undies as some other reader put it so eloquently a while ago. Too late now Clarke, there’s a bun in the oven and you now have to man up to your responsibilities……
      
      12 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:56am
  - Inandout
    
    KW: Don’t tell me she still has those mouth related skills so often displayed when she lived in the UK? She had a nick name, but it escapes me.
    
    6 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:40am
    - RF
      
      Inandout.
      
      For some unknown reason the term Dyson appears familiar.
      
      Just saying…
      
      4 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 1:23pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Good to get something warm in your stomach on a cold winter night.
      
      3 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 5:53pm
    - Gabby
      
      One day a girl may touch your willy downanout. Don’t be bitter.
      
      0 4
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 7:26pm
BeaB

Radio NZ has started as I guess it means to go on. Touchy freely interview with mother of the nation earnestly bullshitting, interviewer sounding like her kindly aunty.
God help us when we get to Waitangi. Perhaps she’ll be carried in on the shoulders of warriors to a mass haka while we all weep with joy.
We are in for years of sugar-coating.
42 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:12am
- RF
  
  I can see a money making business opportunity coming up.
  
  We should invest in palm fronds and have them available in all towns and cities.
  
  Whenever the commie chick visits, little boys could run ahead placing the fronds in front of her so her tiny delicate feet do not touch the dirty ground.
  
  All this over exposure has resulted in me being dehydrated. Caused by excessive vomiting brought on by MSM reports of the commie chick being with child.
  
  On the salacious front I hear from reliable sources that lover boys past indiscretions are starting to surface. He certainly was a jack the lad.
  
  Johnboy no longer has to keep his ewes in the yards as the danger is over.
  
  20 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:52am
- doggone7
  
  That radio station had the same sort of PR session with Bill English and many others had years of John Key doing the same. newstalkzb were the champions at it.
  
  Suck it up.
  
  5 23
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:04am
  - marcw
    
    At least Johnboy had actually achieved something in his life.
    
    23 3
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:43am
    - Gabby
      
      Clipped the ticket on a currency raid? Awesome.
      
      4 21
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 10:00am
Salacious Crumb

Oxfam pushing their socialist agenda again:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11979151

Personally, I think Steve Smith is accumulating far too many runs in test cricket – he now has a test average of 63.75. That makes him a greedy one percenter so he should be forced to limit his scoring to no more than 40 runs per innings so that the poorer members of his team can receive their share. After all its about fairness, not ability or work ethic isn’t it?
33 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:13am
- Evadne
  
  Salacious Crumb. I note that you have already made 579 comments, while KiWombat above has only made 42.
  
  In order to conform to the new equality guidelines, you must refrain from commenting until KiWombat has made another 537 comments.
  
  [Note that the quality or otherwise of the respective contribution is irrelevant: the comment gap is all that matters]
  
  25 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:36am
- hullkiwi
  
  Yes heard about it on Moaning Report. In fairness Espiner did a reasonable job in the interview trying to pin down woman from Oxfam to we are jealous of those with property because they’ve got all the wealth & her solution, taxation (quelled surprise)!
  
  27 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:40am
- stephieboy
  
  SC, the socialisation of the means of production in their charter and philosophy of intent ?
  
  1 30
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:16am
  - Harkman
    
    No that is the fallacy of collectivism, it is a handful of individuals that make all the advances in history. Stopping them is bad for humanity.
    
    Interestingly, all the great discoveries in history pretty much occurred prior to socialism and the welfare state.
    
    19 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:28am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  One of the loved ones buys us an Oxfam (NZ) gift every Xmas.
  I got a water supply to a school (where? – I dunno…perhaps PNG)
  
  Hubby got 2 ducks, a pig & a goat for someone, somewhere (perhaps in a village in Bangladesh).
  
  I ask the loved one each year if she thinks its all kosher….she replies, yes.
  
  22 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:41am
  - kowtow
    
    Pity about that goat hubby bought.
    
    ‘A KENYAN man is behind bars for raping his mother’s two goats to death.’
    
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5360819/animal-sex-beast-raped-mums-goats-jailed-kenya/
    
    10 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 11:04am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I dare not show him that news report.
      
      Looks like goats are often gifted by Oxfam, and donkeys….
      https://www.oxfamunwrapped.org.nz/gifts
      Oh hell, perhaps I’ll request NO Animals next Xmas.
      
      9 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 11:32am
    - softail 1450
      
      kowtow ,he was lucky, he managed to beat his dad to them.
      
      3 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 4:41pm
  - GazzaW
    
    The pig should go down pretty well in Banga and hopefully the goats are good looking.
    
    3 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:53pm
Paulus Gnome

Moaning Report is back.

I had almost forgotten how much I loathed Espiner but am fully re-engersied with said loathing after about an hour.
37 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:19am
- lifesgood
  
  My life is getting quieter and quieter. I don’t listen to morning report any more and can’t bear the ads on commercial radio, don’t watch morning tv or the evening news, cancelled the Herald years ago. Thank god for KB and you tube.
  
  31 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:24am
- oldgolfer
  
  You did well, Paulus, to stayed tuned for an hour.
  Five minutes did for me, then I not so much turned the radio off as punched the off button.
  He has that effect.
  
  23 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:30am
- flipper
  
  Paulus …
  I can understand why you can’t stand Espinder. but why do you inflict” moaning” report on yourself ??
  
  19 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:47am
  - stephieboy
    
    flipper , a sample of what you you inflict on yourself other than the usual of Alex Jones , WND & Gateway ?
    
    2 28
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:18am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Lack of choice, I should just get Radio 4 on podcast and never bother with the Red Radio option ever.
    
    Mulligan is on now; just when you thought things could not get worse . . . .
    
    And, shit, that sanctimonious, detestable, cringe-worthy Crumble will be back at 5.00!
    
    I hope Larry is back for the commute home . . . . .
    
    3 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 1:15pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      I have to admit I miss Radio 4 Today Programme & BBC2 Newsnight, broadcasters doing their job properly.
      
      0 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 4:31pm
- ztev
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  forgotten how much I loathed Espiner……… said loathing after about an hour
  
  Thats so funny….. listens to something so he can loathe it better.
  
  Grumpy old man
  
  3 40
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:05am
  - Gabby
    
    Grumpy old man with memory loss.
    
    2 22
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:37am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      I can remember to downtick you knob
      
      10 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 1:16pm
ztev

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Iraq war veteran Senator Tammy Duckworth calls out Trump over his claim the shutdown will ‘hurt the military’-

I wont be lectured by a 5 deferments Draft Dodger
5 49
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:23am
- Andrei
  
  The last American President to have served in the Active US Military was George HW Bush, though his son famously served in the Air National Guard
  
  The first President to have not served in the Military since WW2 was Saint Billy Clinton
  
  37 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:26am
  - cmm
    
    Just as Clinton used the “it depends what you mean by ‘is'” excuse, I’m sure it also depends what you mean by “served”.
    
    I would not be surprised if his closet has a couple of female soldiers that he served”.
    
    10 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:45am
  - Disaster Area
    
    Although the opinions on Bush’s time in the Texas Air National Guard are divided.
    
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7372-2004Feb2.html
    
    Al Gore did serve in Vietnam, even if he was ‘just’ a journalist.
    
    1 5
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:43am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Squirrel alert!
  
  20 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:27am
- Disaster Area
  
  At least Trump has a top secret plan for defeating ISIS within 30 days…
  
  13 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:31am
  - ztev
    
    There was NO plan. hes never revealed it. It was just a campaign slogan
    
    3 32
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:52am
    - flipper
      
      Of course smart folk tell the enemy what they plan… what their strategy is. They really do. Why ?? Because zetev says so.
      Funny that neither Churchill or Roosevelt revealed their strategy. No???
      Zetev needs a permanent dose of the Standard treatment.
      
      27 4
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:11am
      - stephieboy
        
        flipper , your deluded . There is no evidence that Trump with a single hand defeated ISIS . Thats just another of his 2,000 or so lies .
        
        2 31
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:21am
      - Gabby
        
        He was going to fight them on the beaches and in the fields and on the landing grounds frigger. Sounds like a plan to me.
        
        2 20
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:39am
      - ztev
        
        Trump said he had a plan!
        
        “Trump tells a crowd in Fort Dodge, Iowa, that he has been avoiding questions about his plans for ISIS because he doesn’t “want the enemy to know.” He adds, “I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.”
        
        and so to this :
        “May 2017: Trump says in a joint news conference with the emir of Kuwait that he will have a press conference on his ISIS plan in two weeks.”
        
        https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/3/15904646/trump-syria-assad-russia-iran-secret-generals-military-isis-terrorism
        
        of course that was put of and put off.
        
        1 3
        Report
        January 22, 2018 5:18pm
    - Inandout
      
      Oh you mean like Jacinda’s campaign slogans; dead and dying starving children on the steps of parliament?
      
      26 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:12am
      - Duxton
        
        Not to mention planting 100 million trees and building 10,000 houses.
        
        Lying tramp.
        
        1 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 6:59pm
- softail 1450
  
  trev, is that you streppieboy
  
  14 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:37am
  - Harkman
    
    Well they’re both paid Labour employees.
    
    They’re also part of the women’s movement, they’re turning KB pink.
    
    13 3
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:33am
    - stephieboy
      
      Are you trying to turn KB Blue ?
      
      http://onecitizenspeaking.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451d3b569e201b7c6d6ab08970b-pi
      
      LOL
      
      2 21
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:40am
      - Harkman
        
        I’m pretty sure the options are white, yellow or pink. You have more pinks than anyone else, question ever seen the name stephieboy with a yellow background?
        
        7 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 10:01am
  - VicParking
    
    Stephie has been cast in Labour’s production of the Sound of Music starring “Jacinda”. He is the Lonely Goatherd But also sings “I am sixteen going on five”
    
    12 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:09am
- Andrei
  
  Its bizarre really the military service of Republicans is always an issue for Democrats not so much
  
  Billy Clinton who deferred his draft to chase women at Oxford University beat both George H W Bush who was shot down during the Battle of Okinawa and spent a couple of days floating in in inflatable life raft and also defeat Bob Dole who lost the use of his right arm during the Italian campaign
  
  Explain that to me Ztev
  
  37 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:43am
  - ztev
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Its the Republicans who wrap themselves in the flag and the military and yet they are overall, less likely to have served. Cheney ( 5 deferments) was another example.
    
    3 37
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:59am
  - flipper
    
    The dumbass cannot, so it will, like always, bring in extraneous bullshit.
    
    20 3
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:03am
    - Gabby
      
      The reblubiblubs wank on about surving and the holy flag frigger. Dumbarse.
      
      1 19
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:41am
  - ztev
    
    Notice it is a Iraq war veteran who is doing the talking , not Bill Clinton.
    
    It was the republicans who were spitting tacks over Clinton and Obama lack of service.
    
    6 28
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:08am
    - stephieboy
      
      And one Trump mocking John McCain’s war service as a POW.
      
      Five draft deferments indeed !
      
      7 25
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:23am
      - Harkman
        
        Funny how the left mocked John McCain’s military record throughout 2008. Jon Stewart had a field day with the fact that McCain was last in his class and that he was a child of the aristocracy. Yet Trump does the identical after McCain attacks him, suddenly the left is all “McCain’s a hero” etc.
        
        12 5
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:37am
      - Lance
        
        Please show me Harkman where the Dems mocked McCain for being captured?
        Because I don’t remember it.
        
        I am not a Democrat supporter but what Trump said was pathetic. A little less nasty from Trump would make him a far better Pres.
        Even many of his supporters say they aren’t impressed with everything he says but are looking at the results and tolerating the outbursts.
        
        12 7
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:52am
      - mikenmild
        
        Good call Lance. The hyper partisanship from the States has become well entrenched here. It is impossible to find any consistent Republican=good/Democrat=bad narrative, or vice versa. There will always be ‘whatabout …’ and it simply cannot be that such examples always fall one way.
        
        8 14
        Report
        January 22, 2018 10:00am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Welcome back Treadingthemill❗
        
        Had enough of retirement from your bricklaying career? ???
        
        7 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 10:08am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Well, Obama mocked McCain because he couldn’t use one arm fully, back in November 2011. But of course that was OK because he’s the Messiah, right ?
        
        8 3
        Report
        January 22, 2018 12:17pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Ed Snack,
        
        ED Snack , not true at all . Obama was commenting on Mc Cain’s computer literacy and as been old fashioned and out of touch
        
        GWB commented similarly against John M cCain similarly during the 2000 Republican primaries.
        
        Neither used his war injuries against him.
        
        BTW makes draft dodger Trump’s comments even more careless and ill considered .
        
        https://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/mccains-war-injuries-and-computer-use/
        
        2 10
        Report
        January 22, 2018 1:12pm
      - ztev
        
        McCain was the one who revealed he ‘would be by todays standards , barely passing’
        
        McCain wasnt a ‘child of aristocracy’ That was more Patton.
        Both McCains father and grandfather ended up as Admirals, so he was definitely a long history of military service.
        
        1 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 5:23pm
  - Disaster Area
    
    The Republicans didn’t exactly do themselves any favours with the way that John Kerry was treated during the 2004 election.
    
    6 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:47am
    - mikenmild
      
      I bet you get someone commenting who still buys the story from the Swiftboaters for truth (or whatever they called themselves).
      See my comment above – there’s always some partisan to call out anyone for anything.
      
      4 14
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 10:04am
  - Disaster Area
    
    I suspect that is to do with the fact that when Clinton was standing for election the USA was not mired in the Middle East and so military experience was not seen as important.
    Now, with the debacle that is Syria et al, acting as Commander in Chief actually means putting bodies in the way of bullets and some empathy with the military is thought to be important.
    
    Interestingly, Trump has an approval rating of 44 % with enlisted troops, but only about 30 % with officers.
    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2017/10/23/military-times-poll-what-you-really-think-about-trump/
    
    1 6
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:49am
Stars And Stripes

If some people on here thought the media spread over the weekend on the new pregnancy gave them morning sickness as well then look on the bright side as it could have been worst.
Imagine the reaction if the guy who knocked her up had happened to be black, gender fluid, Muslim and a former refugee.
A water crisis would have ensued trying to wash all the piddled panties and jizzed Y fronts in the media newsrooms.
24 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:25am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Welsh muslim with a withered hand, a speech impediment, a wooden leg and with family still dodging bombs in Iran.
  
  10 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:30am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Streuth, is Abul Hamza (or Hook to the UK media) in NZ?
    
    6 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:49am
    - Disaster Area
      
      I did see an article saying that Abu Hamza wanted to be transferred back to UK prisons as the US Supermax was too hard.
      
      As my Sargent-Major used to say: “Sympathy? You’ll find sympathy between s**t and syphilis in my dictionary”.
      
      Apologies for the language.
      
      7 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 10:20am
      - hullkiwi
        
        That Egyptian piece of dog muck deserves as much pain as possible. While sponging of the UK taxpayer to support his lifestyle & family, he was preaching hatred and organising to Al Khieda at the Finsbury Park Mosque. If, memory serves me correctly, the Jordanians had dibs on him too.
        
        2 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 4:47pm
Keeping Stock

Happy Anniversary Wellington 😀
11 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:28am
- RalphT
  
  Why thank you, KS. We shall do our best to do it, though the rain gods are trying to interfere with our pleasure; they’ve probably heard there’s a game of cricket planned for the stadium late this afternoon.
  
  8 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:22am
Huevon

I guess we need to wait until election year 2020 for the wedding.
17 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:41am
- hullkiwi
  
  Well she won’t be able to travel to the one in May, but who is to say she was ever going to get an invite?
  
  14 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:51am
VicParking

The failing newspaper is still pushing the fake June Robertson letter about the dress code of Air Asia. It just shows the Tabloid mentality of the Hearld.
The 100 monkeys they have copying stories from other news sources over the weekend shows how their cost cutting strategies is biting them in the bum.
30 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:54am
- Notsofast
  
  I wondered how a Dr June Robertson could write ‘I seen her breasts”. It doesn’t compute.
  
  12 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:24am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  29 degrees today and cloudy so the expert journalist on TVNZ enquires ” Where has summer gone?”
  
  What do you have to do to get a job as chief airhead?
  
  0 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:17pm
dime

apparently all men have had to take a good look at themselves, cause or the us them, me too, you and her movement. whatever the fuck its called.

thats according to the manufactured pop star lorde.

how many years before she just goes away?

her latest album has sold a whopping 100,000 units so cant be too far away.

in her defence, Universal did buy her a grammy nomination.. so maybe another album cycle and shes done?
23 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:04am
- VicParking
  
  Her only movements produce shit. Dime why waste “Ink” on that Bigot and gang of #MeImIntheSpotlight
  
  13 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:11am
- sam green
  
  Who’s your favourite artist dime?
  
  1 10
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 12:09pm
  - dime
    
    lorde
    
    5 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 1:09pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      you really need those sarc comment indicators in there dime just to be sure I know you are taking the piss
      
      You’ll be telling me in a minute that you have our ‘ur lizzie’s autograph next . . . . .
      
      7 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 1:23pm
    - sam green
      
      atta boy ..
      
      1 7
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 1:40pm
- UpandComer
  
  I don’t mind Lorde.
  
  You have to remember she is hanging out with the Weinstein types. She is young, and she is female, and she is simply being shaped and molded by the Kulturkampf. Women simply respond to the prevailing fashion. In the 1950’s she would have been doing the opposite. She is nowhere near as egregious as the yanks, and she hangs out with Taylor Swift who the feminists hate so is getting some degree of good influence .
  
  1 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 6:31pm
VicParking

What’s the world coming to, only four articles in the failing newspapers online version about the “Baby”. Not counting repeats.
Talking about repeats, they are still running the Sonny Fai article. That’s every day for the last week and a half.
17 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:04am
- JibberJabber
  
  The media are fucked, Stuff is running something about a golf course expose`, it is so unread they`ve taken to running fake headlines which then link to it.
  
  9 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:32am
waikatogirl

To wind up the acting PM when he takes over TV3 Breakfast have been sounding an alarm clock for Winnie to rise from his slumber in time to attend to the PM’s weekly on-air interview at 6.40am. ?
19 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:14am
- VicParking
  
  He will go straight to the interview from the Green Parrot.
  
  12 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:11am
DifferentPerspective

Breakfast TV

Holy crap, in the spirit of tolerance and open-mindedness I tried out breakfast TV this morning.

Firstly Hayley Holt is a real thick idiot, no wonder she stood for the Greens. I watched her struggling to pronounce “impasse” – she had three goes at it before looking around for help from her co-presenters. Her and the three mouth-mincing beta-males host make for a skin-crawlingly nauseating viewing experience – reminding me again why I hadn’t tuned in to breakfast TV since Paul Henry left. Honestly, who the hell do the broadcasters think want to watch such a totally unrepresentative bunch of left-wing knobs?

For a bit of balance, I flicked over to the AM show on TV3 and almost threw up in my mouth after watching about 20 seconds of the repulsive simpering Amanda Gillies. What is it with that horrifying grimace she pulls where she draws her lips back when she speaks to thrust out her Ardernesque whitened pegs like some demented white shark biting down on a rotting seal carcass.

Thank the heavens for Netflix. This, my first foray into legacy terrestrial TV in years showed me that I am not missing anything at all by not tuning in.

I feel unclean from this experience, I have to go shower now.
37 3
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:17am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  DP, make it a long , long icy cold 30 minute one !
  
  1 33
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:26am
  - GazzaW
    
    You should try one on your return from the mall steffie.
    
    13 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:52am
- Inandout
  
  You have described ‘Ruby Lips’ Gillies to a T.
  
  14 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:36am
  - RF
    
    Just like an inflamed puckered cats arse
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 1:32pm
- Gabby
  
  Shower dippy? It’s only January.
  
  1 13
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:04am
lastmanstanding

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5293227/LIZ-JONES-pregnant-PM-betraying-voters.html

Agree 100%.

Also. Notice its all I am my and me. Shes not a Team player. No i in Team.
28 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:19am
- stephieboy
  
  lastmanstanding , with this deep and profound observation ,
  
  “It has nothing to do with discrimination and everything to do with the fact that, while on maternity leave, you never hear a peep, except when they pop in to collect their gifts.”
  
  Liz Jones bad tabloid journalism,
  
  http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.co.nz/2010/06/liz-jones-thinks-middle-aged-white.html
  
  2 28
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:29am
- cmm
  
  In all fairness to Jacinda…. it’s the Jacinda Party, not the Labour Party.
  
  She nudged the support up from 25% to 39% and that is all down to her.
  
  It’s also why she and Winnie understand eachother so well. Both are leading one-person parties.
  
  24 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:52am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Slipped into the news yesterday as part of the coverage of the Liabor caucus retreat it was noted caucus voted to re-elect Cindy as PM unopposed.
    
    12 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:02am
- Gabby
  
  There’s me in team lostmong.
  
  1 15
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:05am
  - cmm
    
    And there’s bag in Gabby…
    
    Wotsya point?
    
    3 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:05pm
    - Gabby
      
      There’s cm in cmmie. How’d that come about?
      
      0 4
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 7:17pm
- kaykaybee
  
  “No I in team”
  
  We would well to remember her Herald interview for the JOB of PM. Ms Ardern variously used words to describe herself that would fit a text book case of narcissism. The ones I caught were:
  
  Visionary
  Optimistic
  Courageous
  Collaborative
  Intuitive
  Determined
  Positive
  Bloody minded
  
  There is no doubt that this woman whose face and lightweight life stories have been plastered on every magazine page, who will appear in US VOGUE has a high opinion of herself.
  
  Nobody is commenting publicly that it is incredibly self seeking for the PM and her boyfriend ( a renowned celeb skirt chaser and self promoter)to have an at home stand up press conference to announce their 20 week old pregnancy. A two to three sentence press release announcing the impending birth, declaring their happiness, but asking for their privacy to be respected would have been the thing.
  
  However, that is not remotely what Brand Ardern/Gayford want is it!! Ultimately they’re seeking to politicise and monetise their brand. Gayford has always liked ( ahem) to supplement his income, so on top of world’s best fisherman we’ll now be subjected to endless columns on stay at home Dad life.
  
  Can’t wait.
  
  1 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 23, 2018 6:49am
Sofia

@KimDotcom
… My lawyers have served a multi billion dollar damages claim against the Govt today. 10:16 AM – 19 Jan 2018

Did they?
20 0
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:19am
- cmm
  
  May as well make it a trillion while you’re doing all that paperwork.
  
  Orange is the same colour no matter….
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 7:06pm
dime

i was listening to a jordanpeterson speech yesterday.

he made a great point which i think applies to most of the lefties i have ever come across..

simply..

do they actually love the poor? or do they just hate the rich?

the lefties i have come across just whinge about the rich and how they personally dont have enough.. then they play it off with “its not fair, so many people go without”. thats just to disguise their own greed.

fuck the left.

that is all.
35 3
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:20am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  do they actually love the poor?
  
  Of course they don’t.
  
  Look where they live, look where they send their kids to creche/school, look who they socialise with.
  
  29 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:54am
  - Swifty
    
    My brother and his wife are quite friendly with a certain Labour Minister and his wife.
    
    Talking with my bro over Christmas the guy frequently comes over for dinner, always empty-handed, and proceeds to hook in to the bro’s excellent wines and cigars.
    
    The bro has had enough if it, just quietly.
    
    24 3
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:49am
    - GazzaW
      
      Lees-Galloway? He has a weakness for OP (other persons) booze. Ask the Press Gallery.
      
      26 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 10:54am
      - Swifty
        
        What made you nominate him?
        
        16 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 10:55am
      - Swifty
        
        I have said quite enough 🙂
        
        17 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 11:00am
      - KKKKatee
        
        My pick as well…..
        
        9 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 1:52pm
      - Paulus
        
        Lees Galloway –
        Only other people’s booze – ask round Parliament.
        
        11 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 2:04pm
    - Gabby
      
      The bro can’t say sure come on over, bring some wine sweaty?
      
      1 16
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 12:48pm
      - Harkman
        
        Sorry Gabby, I bumped the thumbs up button by mistake. It won’t ever happen again, unless you grow up.
        
        6 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 5:11pm
      - Swifty
        
        Why should he have to?
        
        3 3
        Report
        January 22, 2018 5:27pm
      - Gabby
        
        No worries hackman, you get into a routine licking arse and then some big balls come along and before you know it, why, there you are.
        
        0 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 7:10pm
      - Gabby
        
        The bro doesn’t need to take control of his life sweaty? He powerless like all those bennies and bludgers? He wants gummint to help him?
        
        0 4
        Report
        January 22, 2018 7:13pm
      - Harkman
        
        “The bro can’t say sure come on over, bring some wine sweaty?”
        
        I’m not the world’s greatest speller but there’s something wrong with that ⤴hint, hint it is sweety. It would be a real problem if you just so happened to be a school teacher.
        
        0 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 8:21pm
    - MCos
      
      Tabloid newspapers are full of gossip such as this from ‘informed sources’.
      Why don’t you say who all the various characters are?
      Obviously the story is either bullshit or there’ll be a shitfight.
      
      Put up or shut up.
      
      2 14
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 2:14pm
      - Swifty
        
        My post is entirely factual.
        
        I would have thought the reason I have not named him is obvious – but clearly not to you.
        
        12 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 2:27pm
      - MCos
        
        I said why I think you won’t say who the various people are.
        
        The question is why are you repeating this piece of gossip?
        
        1 10
        Report
        January 22, 2018 4:05pm
      - Swifty
        
        To follow up on and support Maggy’s comment and to continue my decades-long disparagement of the character of lefty politicians.
        
        Why else? 🙂
        
        8 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 4:20pm
      - MCos
        
        An unknown person repeats some hearsay gossip from another unknown person about an unknown politician.
        
        Of course some people will believe anything if it suits their agenda.
        
        1 9
        Report
        January 22, 2018 5:16pm
      - Swifty
        
        Everyone is known to me – and, again, my post was entirely factual.
        
        7 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 5:21pm
    - Gabby
      
      The bro needs to get a backbone sweaty. He hanging on for a handout?
      
      0 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 7:15pm
  - kowtow
    
    ‘Look where they live, look where they send their kids to creche/school, look who they socialise with’
    
    Exactly .
    
    I have come across no end of these “I’m very concerned about the growing gap between the rich and the poor in New Zealand” types.
    
    Funny thing is they own their own properties in good neighbourhoods and send their kids to private fee paying secondary schools.
    
    17 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 11:17am
    - sam green
      
      Really? I thought they were all dole bludgers and baby farmers. Seems today they are “thicko” old women, property owners, people with kids in private schools, posh wine drinkers and cigar smokers.
      
      3 16
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 12:53pm
      - kowtow
        
        No, we’re not talking about the poor themselves , we’re talking about the poor mongers, the rich (relatively) who whore and hawk them so they can feelz good about themselves.The thickos who vote for Labour cos they’ve got a long haired smiling wimmin in charge as opposed to Angry White Male Andy was an earlier conversation.
        
        Do keep up.
        
        14 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 2:27pm
      - sam green
        
        Sorry – but you are a fickle bunch.
        
        2 11
        Report
        January 22, 2018 2:55pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Like the Labour gang banging on in the election before last about that Rick Prick Key sending his kids to Kings? How dare he? Public schools not good enough?
      If asked where Cunliffe sent his kids, they’d demand that families be left out of politics.
      Gotta love those lefties – they’re so … ethical
      //
      
      1 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 10:23pm
- kevn
  
  dime… I liked the Jordan Peterson interview enough to buy his book.
  
  16 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:59am
  - dime
    
    nice
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 1:09pm
  - ztev
    
    Just goes to show Peterson really is the’ stupid persons smart person’
    
    You just know he is the one person to prevent us all from being forced into non stop potato farming on collectives
    
    2 9
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 4:52pm
    - UpandComer
      
      ‘Not an argument’
      
      Jordan Peterson is single-handedly dismantling the Left, and it’s funny. You should support him. He is a moderate. He is tempering the swiftly rising passions of people who want to start giving helicopter rides.
      
      5 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 6:37pm
    - Swifty
      
      Why do lefties frequently play the man and not the ball?
      
      How lothesome.
      
      6 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 6:45pm
      - sam green
        
        Errr … read the posts on Ardern?
        
        1 0
        Report
        January 23, 2018 7:37am
    - dime
      
      “Just goes to show Peterson really is the’ stupid persons smart person’”
      
      you said that yesterday dipshit.
      
      get some new material.
      
      4 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 7:27pm
- JibberJabber
  
  LoL, got relative that loves to talk about the “obscene” money some people make, all the while she is renting out 3 freehold houses and does not have to work, apparently “obscene” to the left are just salaries that pay more than what they are getting.
  
  18 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:38am
- -D
  
  More people should listen to Jordan Peterson and, best luck, more and more people are.
  
  4 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 5:45pm
- UpandComer
  
  Of course they don’t.
  
  ‘The poor’ to the left are a vast vote farm. The stupider and the poorer and the more dependent on government, the better.
  
  3 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 6:39pm
MCos

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Looks like the continuous stream of invective aimed at Ardern on these General Debates is going to be ramped up now that she’s pregnant.
4 37
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:21am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Here let me help you….
  
  Looks like the continuous stream of justified contempt for ~~invective aimed at~~ Ardern for lying by avoidance and misleading the NZ public on these General Debates is going to be ramped up now that she’s pregnant.
  
  But then again, lying is OK when the Left do it!
  
  Even when they lie (like JA) during leadership debates about not telling lies ref 2.40 in.
  
  30 4
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:32am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  What else is there for dime and coy to do managing their bored and irrelevant lives .
  
  1 41
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:32am
  - Lance
    
    pot, kettle, black
    
    17 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:54am
wreck1080

Ha ha chinese are condemning democracy because of the USA shutdown.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/chinese-state-media-us-government-shutdown-exposes-chronic-033125012.html

Give me the rare shutdown of non-essential services any day over the communist state murdering its citizens and controlling information.
17 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:26am
Inandout

Leighton’s fill in Kerry is getting the Labour callers flowing back, like ducks to water.
24 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:30am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  She is repugnant – an instant ‘off’ switch for the radio.
  
  If Mike H & Larry go – there will be no sane people to listen to on the airwaves.
  
  29 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:33am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    DP , that appears to leave you with little option other than this ,
    
    https://imgur.com/E4gyU69
    
    1 31
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:36am
    - softail 1450
      
      streppieboy, even this option is polluted by arseholes like you streppieboy,,,,,,
      
      20 3
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:40am
      - Gabby
        
        Poor softcock 14yo, plagued everywhere by arsehole pollution. Put it behind you softcock 14yo.
        
        0 4
        Report
        January 22, 2018 6:47pm
    - Harkman
      
      There is still InfoWars.
      
      6 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:57am
      - softail 1450
        
        harkman,or for a giggle , Mark Dice.
        
        5 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 10:00am
      - Harkman
        
        Well apparently stroppyboy thinks that’s all we watch and that we’re all “alt right” zealots, whatever that is. So obviously for giggles ?
        
        8 3
        Report
        January 22, 2018 10:07am
  - Manolo
    
    Classical music…always.
    
    8 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:40am
  - softail 1450
    
    D P ,,,BUT,BUT,BUT ,kerries got a new baby in the family as well,there will be endless mornings dedicated to ” grandies”and breastfeeding.
    
    19 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:58am
  - dime
    
    podcasts are your friend.
    
    9 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:00am
  - GazzaW
    
    I think you will find that Larry is leaving at the end of the year.
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:57am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Labour callers are flowing back, and thinking people are turning off in droves.
  
  2 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:26pm
lastmanstanding

When Mike H and Larry go the left will have taken over the airwaves at ZB.

Just another Propaganda Department of the COL like Red Radio TVNZ et al.
20 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:44am
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

Public Service announcement…

The horrid had this article about the complaint from a PC NZer travelling on Air Asia.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=11979444

In brief, this woman was offended at being able to see a bit of breast………I can assure readers, that having travelled on Air Asia, they are not as good looking as the ones in the photo, so dont rush to book a flight expecting to be flashed. Also, Mr Shane Jones (MP), stay in the house as you will soon see more breasts during feeding time which will cut down on your hotel porn bill.
21 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:53am
- Lance
  
  If people are offended by a flash of boob they have a problem
  
  27 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:57am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Unless they’re dipped in glitter
    
    2 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:28pm
- JibberJabber
  
  21st century life is just so hard, negotiating the minefield that is the groupthink lefty fuckwittery, do you support “free the Nipple” or get all puritan over a flash of sideboob?
  Do you hate misogyny or support Rap music? Etc,etc.
  Oh the quandary.
  She better hope the Femen movement are`nt planning a protest anywhere near her.
  Tho` typical Herald , a day late and a dollar short, this old article was printed last week on Stuff.
  
  19 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:44am
- Nermal
  
  If you read WO you’d know this story was debunked days ago as this woman doctor does not exist, but bears similarities to a male health worker living in Wellington
  
  15 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 1:30pm
Harkman

So last night we saw a gathering of the 36.9% government. One of the reporters asked Cindy about business’s concern with the new Labour laws. Cindy said something about being “transparent” and Sepuloni & Parker standing right behind her couldn’t hide their laughs, they thought it was hilarious, a joke.
29 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:54am
- sooty
  
  Ain’t that the truth!
  
  16 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 11:37am
- hullkiwi
  
  Transparent, what like telling the country she did not believe there was a need to ever lie in politics & that she had never lied… Or, Angry Andy on Moaning Report to Espiner on CoL being the most open & transparent government ever, that is why the story about the ToW settlement was leaked in a newspaper at the weekend, 2 days after news of Taxcinda’s pregnancy. Transparency, yeah right, pass me a Tui’s.
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 5:51pm
DifferentPerspective

Sweaty palms at NFL HQ

The last hope for saving the disastrous “kneelergate” season for the NFL is looking shaky! They’re relying on another NE Patriots Brady show to bring the fans out to the SuperBowl as they hunt for their record-equalling 6th win.

Funny that the oppressed SJW millionaires hopes are resting on Trump’s BFF Tom Brady.

Still second qtr and the Pats are 7-3 down.

If that result comes home then there’s going to be much sadness at Kneeler HQ at the NFL.

(I’m sure that bigoted, privileged, patriarchal white male Brady will pull them through – probably by trampling on oppressed pussy hat-wearing SJWs)
6 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:57am
- Gabby
  
  They’ll win. That’s why the Jaguars are there. Then the Eagles and Vikings will beat each other up so whoever wins is easy meat.
  
  1 8
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:08am
  - Gabby
    
    In the 4th quarter. Who’da thunkit. How dramatic.
    
    1 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 12:50pm
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    You were right. Looks like the fix is in Gabby!
    
    1 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 2:05pm
  - Gabby
    
    Not so much of the beating up as it turns out. Setting up Eagles sufferers for elevated levels of crushing disappointment (If they win I always knew they would).
    
    0 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 6:33pm
edenman

Perhaps I missed it.
Why hasn’t there been a tweet from Donald Trump
To Justin & his wife Jacinda congratulating them on the pending birth.
16 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 10:00am
- sooty
  
  Common law wife, is that the term? You know living in sin, the baby will be illegitmate, that one.
  
  12 4
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 11:34am
- Gabby
  
  Chump reckons it’s his. He makes the best babies. The best.
  
  0 5
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 1:20pm
- KKKKatee
  
  More to the point – why hasn’t Trump tweeted his congratulations re the matter. After all, they’re ‘besties’ are they not? World Leader and all that jazz…
  
  5 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 1:51pm
Gravelroad

Today’s local paper features a syndicated opinion column written by Oscar Knightley – an actor/“celebrity” I believe?
His piece, entitled “Historic moment, beautifully understated” is another gush fest about Jacinda’s baby, but also opines on Winston: “I am looking forward to the six weeks when Ardern’s off and Winston Peters will be in charge – hopefully it will be like the time when I was at intermediate school and we had this really cool relief teacher who’d just let the class go outside and play softball all day.”
No wonder newspapers are a thing of the past.
39 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 10:06am
waikatogirl

After interviewing the expecting couple and how wonderful and easy the pregancy and raising the first angel is all going to be, Duncan Garner made the comment that “Liabor is young and fresh and National have Bill English.”

Ah Duncan, Winston is much older than Bill English and likely to be acting PM for the COL for a substantial period of time.
30 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 10:16am
- Gabby
  
  Bingles was middleaged in puberty wakk.
  
  1 25
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 11:49am
lifesgood

Everyone seems to think that Jacinda is a leading light for working mothers. Well I think she is the complete opposite. I think working mothers are going to feel, justifiably, incensed that she is making light of the hard yards they have to go through to make a living. She can airily proclaim that she will take just 6 weeks off and still run the country where as working mums know that it is not that easy, that most of the time you feel exhausted and anxious, and barely able to cope. Her proclamations are just going to make working mothers feel inadequate and ashamed and probably turn right off her.
26 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 10:26am
- labrator
  
  It’s easy to delegate responsibility to a nanny when you earn $500k a year. The dream of a working mother is made pretty easy when you could afford 3 full time nannies and still be making 6 times the average wage. It’s not really representative of the average working mother’s struggle in any way shape or form. If Ardern was anyone other than the PM she’d be getting vilified as a “rich prick”.
  
  32 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:33am
  - KKKKatee
    
    The very type of people whom she despises. Quite an oxymoron really.
    
    6 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 6:42pm
- Gabby
  
  It’ll feed their asprayshins likesfood.
  
  1 20
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 11:48am
Andrei

Who here has watched “The end of the f****ing World” on Netflix?

My daughter messaged to tell me how good it was

She was right!

Sky is doomed.
10 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 11:08am
- sooty
  
  Got a letter in the mail today from Fairfax media saying that they have changed their name to Stuff.
  Why would you go around proudly telling people that your are stuffed?
  
  18 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 11:29am
  - Digmen1
    
    Yeah what sort of stuff?
    It just shows their mentality.
    
    8 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 12:53pm
billr

I know that you guys don’t like this sort of thing, but sometimes, you have to listen/read/look/consider viewpoints that are not to your liking, otherwise, all you have is an echo chamber.

http://berkeleyearth.org/global-temperatures-2017/

2017 is likely to be the second hottest year since records began.

Richard Muller has an interesting background, he originally thought that AGW was a hoax, he managed to pull together the Berkley team (ironically partially funded by the Koch brothers) to disprove AGW. Hence the Koch brothers funding, WUWT, initially also supported him. That support has fallen away now that BEST also agrees with the rest of the scientists who work in this area who actually know what they are talking about.
4 11
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 11:12am
- Andrei
  
  Better ban bitcoin then
  
  6 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 11:30am
- JIV
  
  Warmer than 2015 by 0.03 degrees with certainty of +- 0.05 degrees. Really?? So basically zero so you could call it a pause
  
  6 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 6:41pm
  - billr
    
    No: you couldn’t.
    
    Here’s the latest curves from BEST.
    
    http://berkeleyearth.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/land-and-ocean-summary-large.png
    
    1 4
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:49pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Do tell us more about;
      1 Homogenisation
      2. How many Stevenson Screens are there to measure land based temps
      3. How many Argo Buoys measure Ocean temps
      4. And how many square kms each covers
      Off you go
      
      4 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 8:10pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      There’s a graph on this video which shows the gaps and what they then did.
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j1hg-koV1T0
      
      4 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 8:23pm
Sofia

As Kiwiblog’s Government Tree Deficit counter will sometime just soon reach 25 million trees which haven’t been planted to date to met the Government’s schedule, there are two questions _

1 – How much land is right at this moment, set aside and paid for and tilled, ready for actual planting to start? And where is that land located?

2 – Of the 4 million seedlings so far said to have been acquired by the Government for planting, is that in excess of the normal industry planting of 50 million seedlings?
14 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 11:44am
- Poppa
  
  You shouldn’t ask pesky questions, just believe what they tell you and behave yourself.
  
  You know the figures will be embellished anyway
  
  8 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 1:55pm
Ed Snack

Here’s a neat little anniversary, It was 20 years ago today/Slick Willy taught the intern to play….
9 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 12:26pm
Morrissey

“Kneel down time!”
The Patriots bore their way to another Super Bowl appearance
AFC Playoff, Sunday 21 Jan. 2018 (Boston time)

The New England Patriots hold a four-point lead over the Jacksonvile Jaguars. There’s still more than one and a half minutes of “playing” time on the clock. In any real sport, that would be more than enough time for a lot more action.

Not in the NFL, however, where time-wasting is the main strategy of every team. The Patriots have the ball, which in this sport means guaranteed possession for four plays. Therefore it’s pointless to hope for anything unexpected or spontaneous to happen.

One of the commentators yells gleefully: “Kneel down time!”

Both teams stand up from the last scrimmage and start shaking hands with more than 15 seconds still on the clock. The coaches, holding clipboards full of color-coded instructions, are jubilant. The crowd, instructed constantly to “Make Some Noise”, seems to be happy.

Taking a knee doesn’t HAVE to be boring of course. In fact, a lot of the Patriots players—the ones with a heart and a brain— made it really interesting a short while ago…

https://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/patriots-anthem.jpg?w=628
1 29
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 12:31pm
- Morrissey
  
  Two fans of constant stoppages in sport have registered with us as of 12:35 p.m.
  
  1 30
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 12:35pm
- Swifty
  
  13 folk who think Morrissey is a dick have registered with us as of 2.48pm
  
  17 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 2:48pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Trouble is, Swifty, a downtick is nothing. You think I’m a “dick”, you need to argue your case.
    
    Downticks simply mean: “I read you, but I don’t agree with you.” It’s like pushing the LIKE button on Facebook—any fool can do it, and it has no force behind it at all.
    
    3 23
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 2:53pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Did somebody say “dick”?
      
      https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8836077.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Bill-Clinton-greets-Monica-Lewinsky.jpg
      
      0 17
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 2:55pm
    - Swifty
      
      No, that’s where you’re wrong (again).
      
      Downticks for you mean ‘Morrissey is a dick, and I want his comment concealed’ especially when you write ‘Two fans of xxx have registered with us as of 12:35 p.m’ for the hundredth time.
      
      Dick.
      
      8 3
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 5:25pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Ah, so THAT’s what they mean! Thanks, Swifty.
        
        https://i.imgflip.com/1cx5fe.jpg
        
        0 9
        Report
        January 22, 2018 5:53pm
kowtow

Ngai Tahu , the “south island” iwi get $190 million of tax payer money in a “top up” and the ODT , the self proclaimed Independant Voice of the South bury that on page 20 of the print edition.

You’d have thought that such a massive cash injection to what must be the biggest “charity” in the SI would merit banner headlines.

Or would honkey who has to pay for Ngati Notionals ‘ irrational and racist largesse be outraged if he knew too much too often about the race relations industry here, so it must be buried somewhere dark?

https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/complaint-industry-still-rambles
22 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 12:33pm
- softail 1450
  
  kowtow ,and as a corporation they pay not a single cent in taxes,,,how is that fair?
  
  11 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 2:01pm
  - Digmen1
    
    Yes, Labour need to look at that, and Sanitarium.
    
    11 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 2:28pm
  - ztev
    
    Fonterra doesnt pay tax either , indeed gets $200mill
    
    0 12
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 5:06pm
    - Harkman
      
      Evidence?
      
      8 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 5:14pm
Digmen1

To those who believe in Man Made Global Warming…
And if you think Global warming is bad..
If you were president of the world, what single measure would you bring in right now to stop it?
5 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 1:46pm
- Poppa
  
  It is the biggest con known to man designed as a means to control people.
  
  It is all part of the UN agenda for total control of the world. They have the media on side to push their cause also.
  
  I wonder if I will be alive to see it all exposed for what it is?
  
  14 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 2:00pm
- Sideoiler
  
  …..If you were president of the world, what single measure would you bring in right now to stop it?
  
  Cut the research funding.
  
  7 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 4:12pm
softail 1450

digman1 ,stop the chinese from opening a new coal fired power station every three weeks as they are now …..
9 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 2:00pm
- Digmen1
  
  I knew they were, are they still doing that?
  What about India I think they also are building lots of coal fired power stations
  
  8 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 2:27pm
  - softail 1450
    
    digman1 ,the chinese have cut down ,it used to be every two weeks,,,,
    
    6 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 3:33pm
MH

maybe JA’s babe will refuse to go into labour.

PS I do hope it will be a worry free event in real life.
4 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 2:27pm
Maggy Wassilieff

A couple of days ago (or was it yesterday?) stephieboy posted some response about child marriages where he postulated that the husbands wait until their bride is old enough before consummating the marriage.

Wonder if he has ever heard of obstetric fistulas,
and considered how they occur or why they are so common in countries that actively support child marriage?
https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2018/child-marriage-niger/index.html
16 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 2:41pm
- Manolo
  
  If stephieboy said anything like that he ought to be repudiated and called out in no uncertain terms.
  
  12 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 4:57pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Ah yes, this is what he reckoned.
    
    Usually under Islam or Christianity a young girl was bethrothed to a much older male to unite families , tribes , kingdoms etc .
    
    The betrothal wasn’t consummated till much later .
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/01/general_debate_20_january_2018.html#comment-2120639
    
    Frightening to think how many young girls are permanently damaged or have lost their lives from this savage practice.
    
    9 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 6:04pm
- Jack5
  
  Advocating child marriage, leading to physical injury of young girls, is akin to advocating paedophilia.
  
  12 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 5:04pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Did somebody say paedophilia?!!!??!?
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/sites/default/files/story/2016/04/graham_capill_4e4b404ba0.jpg
    
    1 5
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:10pm
kowtow

Iraqi gummint on the right track.

I hope they capture and hang as many of the bastards they can get their hands on.

In fact western gummints should extradite any of their residents who managed to get out of Iraq so they can face real justice in Iraq .

I’d be happy for any “kiwi” who joined ISIS there to go through the trap door at the end of a short rope.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/21/german-woman-become-first-european-female-executed-iraq-belonging/

And she’s not “European” , she’s Morrocan. Big difference.
11 0
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 2:49pm
Inandout

How could Hillary attend this guy’s funeral and keep a straight face? An old story I know but shit she must have had balls of steel.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3620742/Hillary-triggered-suicide-President-Bill-Clinton-s-counsel-Vince-Foster-attacked-humiliated-White-House-staff-one-week-death-FBI-agents-claim.html
9 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 3:13pm
niggly

Bwahahaha – just caught the tail end of a Radio Live interview with that twat Hugh P (who released another report), seems the host disbelieved some of Hugh P’s answers and solutions, saying that Hugh didn’t seem to answer his questions well!

Hugh of course in full blown Labour arselicking mode, with the host saying c’mon Labour’s 100,000 houses isn’t realistic, whilst Hugh saying it is and his answer why was …. to look back 60 years ago when there houses were built in great numbers (ignoring the fact that they were smaller and had less building, land, environment and infrastructure compliance issues to deal with)!

The twat of course rolled out his “Tory” name calling insults frequently blaming National (and Councils) for everything and said his beloved Labour will fix everything (ok let’s hold Hugh to that) and kept whoring his website! Same old, same old, some things never change!

Meanwhile next interviewee was the Tauranga mayor saying the main issue causing housing build issues is the RMA (which twatty Hugh ignored)! The twat also ignores who put the handbrake on National’s RFA reforms, oh yes the likes of Winston First who wouldn’t support National’s reforms when he won the Northland bi-election!
21 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 3:32pm
- ztev
  
  Wasnt 60 years ago. Its was the late 70s.
  Just last year we finally matched just 10 years ago.
  Techniques have changed too. No longer are floors tongue and groove hammered in each strip. As well pre framing is essential now ( dont require trained carpenters)
  Builders no longer dig footings by hand or mix concrete on site.
  
  Yes, modern houses have got larger- thats one of the problems, they arent making homes for first homebuyers anymore. But modern techniques can do far better than the franchise/bespoke house builders which seems to be the only choice now.
  
  4 18
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 4:02pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    You’re full of shit ztev.
    Pre-nailed frames happened in the late 1950’s.
    Sheet flooring has has been around since the early 1960’s.
    Trusses have been used for roof structure since the early 1960’s.
    Readimix concrete has been available since the 1950’s.
    Diggers have been used to dig footings since the late 1950’s.
    I know – those are the years I started my apprenticeship.
    
    20 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 5:18pm
    - ztev
      
      Thats ‘when first available’
      
      Common was much later.
      Pre nail has gone from occasional to common to universal since the 70s to the 90s.
      When did nail guns come in? They are universal now.
      
      1 13
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 6:29pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Rubbish. When did you serve your time?
        
        11 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 7:01pm
      - nasska
        
        You’re partly right. Pre framing came in stages but the first was trusses which if I recall correctly couldn’t be constructed “on site” because there was no way to preload them.
        
        It wasn’t only nail guns. Portable compressors to drive them were initially prohibitively expensive. Similarly ‘Hi-ab’ trucks necessary to offload on site were a rarity until the late 70s & later.
        
        Lower equipment costs against higher labour costs were the drivers. As such the unions & their pet Labour Party have reduced employment while keeping costs high through largely unnecessary regulations & compliance costs.
        
        The winners aren’t the house purchasers or the builders……rather the clipboard carrying arsehole is king.
        
        5 1
        Report
        January 22, 2018 7:10pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Wrong nasska.
        Hiab hoists were a common thing by the early 1960’s. My dad had a Firth agency for their concrete blocks in 1960, and all deliveries were with hiab hoists on all their trucks.
        
        5 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 7:41pm
      - nasska
        
        Maybe we were a little behind the times in the Wairarapa Don. The first Hiab in the fleet of the firm I drove for was a Ford D1210 (I think) the boss bought in the mid 70s for moving fertiliser bags which were replacing the old cwt sacks.
        
        Unloaded it was a dog to drive because of the weight of the crane but there was no shortage of work for it.
        
        4 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 7:55pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Note also that on TV1 news tonight ACC have
  Identified builders as cash cows and are sending their stormwater nazis out to fine companies for building site run off.
  ACC have done precious little to curb undesirable discharges in to the sea, but demand that the temporary silt run off on sites not yet connected to stormwater drainage be stopped immediately.
  Could it be that there is a housing shortage in Auckland because of this kind of bureaucratic bullshit?
  What’s next? Noise control calling around to ban nail guns and hammers?
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:36pm
Ed Snack

In another interesting snippet, the FBI has just announced that it won’t be able to release a further tranche of the text messages sent between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. That’s because they’ve lost them due a “technical error”.

What is really interesting is that the date when the texts become unavailable is 14 December 2016 and the end is May 17 2017; and May 17 is when Mueller takes over the “collusion” investigation.

So what revealing indiscretions are in these now missing texts that meant the FBI had to go to the trouble of losing them. Given the explosive nature of the information revealed in some of the existing texts, probably something really dangerous to important people still in the FBI. If the existing revealed texts show that Strzok knew well before Clinton was interviewed that she would be not prosecuted, and that Lynch had been told that Clinton would not be prosecuted before she effectively handed off responsibility to Comey to make the call, what other little gems might be in the missing items ?

Of course it’s just a technical issue, nothing suspicious at all. No one in the FBI could possibly have made these deletions deliberately, could they ?
13 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 4:26pm
Ross12

As a complete novice when it comes to computer programming etc. my “understanding” of computer hacking has been some extremely bright back end computer programming geeks working their way through the code to find weak points etc.
But the British kid just used the old school conman’s tricks to break into high level US officials data. With the billions of dollars they have in their budgets you would think they would have better systems in place.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/19/british-15-year-old-gained-access-intelligence-operations-afghanistan/
9 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 4:28pm
Jack5

A German city bans further refugees, and in a nearby report a Merkel speech last month in which the German politician called multiculturism a “living lie,” and said integration is the goal.

Meanwhile in NZ, regional multiculturism councils set up by Dame Devoid squads continue to promote the multiculturism ideology in NZ. And, our media and some politicians continue to talk of multiculturism and laud diversity. By this, they imply they reject assimilation as the goal.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5294141/German-city-BANS-new-refugees-amid-anti-migrant-violence.html
14 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 5:01pm
Don the Kiwi

I hope WoO is around to learn something:

“Can Anything Good Come from CO2?
By Neil L. Frank
As much of America remains frigid, media headlines shout far and wide that catastrophic man-made climate change is to blame. But is it true?

What are the basic facts about climate that people need to know? Four questions can aid in the understanding of this complicated topic.

First, is the Earth warming?

Second, if it is, what is causing the warming?

Third, assuming that CO2 is causing the Earth to warm, what is the cost of mitigating its impact?

And fourth, if CO2 has little or no impact on the Earth’s temperature, can anything good come from future increases of CO2?

So is the Earth warming? Yes! The Earth is warming, and it has been for over 150 years as the world emerges from the Little Ice Age. Atmospheric CO2 has also been increasing since WWI.

What causes the warming? That is a matter of intense debate.

In the 1980s, meteorologists observed that the Earth’s temperature was increasing at the same time as atmospheric CO2 concentration was rising.

A group at NASA concluded that CO2 is driving the warming. They developed a numerical model of the atmosphere that projected an alarming rise in the Earth’s temperature and made public announcements of an impending disaster. All the alarmist statements from the 1980s until today are based on numerical models.

But beginning in 1998, the Earth’s temperature plateaued (currently referred to as the “pause”) while CO2 levels continued to spiral upward. This caused a number of scientists outside the “alarmist” community to undertake an in-depth review of what has become a serious controversy.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/01/can_anything_good_come_from_co2.html#ixzz54smw8rE4
8 4
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 5:05pm
- William of Ockham
  
  There is no scientific debate. Scientific debate is in the forum of scientific journals. You find none.
  
  Look at the graphs here:
  https://tamino.wordpress.com/2018/01/20/2017-temperature-summary/#more-9559
  
  Read some simple science here:
  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/2017-ranked-among-three-hottest-years-ever/
  
  Look here:
  http://mashable.com/2018/01/18/2017-top-3-warmest-years-visualizations-modern-art/?utm_cid=hp-n-1#pufb1SLG7iqF
  
  Read what is happening in NZ here:
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11979430
  
  You really think some 30,000 climate scientists don’t understand climate science? That the Royal Society, National Academy of Sciences, American Association for the Advancement of Science etc etc etc don’t understand science?
  
  Of course you do. But thank you for giving me the opportunity to correct you.
  
  2 22
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 5:40pm
  - Jack5
    
    Stewart Island oranges, Southland bananas, Oamaru pineapples … bring it on.
    
    10 4
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 5:46pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    You quote 30 000 climate scientists. Sure that’s a big number. However, there may be 1,000,000 physicists in the world, possibly 10 to 15 Mil engineers, USA produces about 2250 chemist PhDs per year… So 30,000 climate scientists is actually not a lot. And a lot of the physicists and engineers reckon the climate scientists don’t understand basic physics (of which climatology is a sub branch of as climatology is really just fluid dynamics).
    
    8 4
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 6:27pm
    - William of Ockham
      
      So why don’t some publish in Nature or Science showing the science wrong? Save us all a lot of trouble. Praise from every government on the planet. Nobel Prize.
      
      Don’t understand the science? Not experts after all?
      
      The Royal Society, National Academy of Sciences, American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Physical Society, American Chemical Society etc etc etc won’t be issuing a retraction. The theory of man-made global warming is irrefutable.
      
      You don’t understand what science is and how it works. You’ve got plenty of mates on kiwiblog!
      
      0 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 23, 2018 8:34am
- Gabby
  
  You know of course donkey wee, the one doesn’t preclude the other.
  
  2 8
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 5:55pm
Manolo

Revenge is a dish best served cold:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/20/donald-trump-undoing-barack-obama-legacy/

As president, Barack Obama repeatedly mocked Donald Trump’s political ambitions, laughing at the idea of Trump ever winning the presidency.

Obama mocked Trump in 2011 for calling into question whether he was born in America. The state of Hawaii later released Obama’s longform birth certificate to put the matter to rest. Obama viciously mocked Trump for the controversy, before mocking the idea of Trump ever serving in the White House.
12 4
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 5:39pm
- William of Ockham
  
  Nobody expected enough Americans to go completely fucking mad and elect a pig-ignorant, vindictive, narcissistic, delusional and unhinged habitual liar.
  
  Goebbels must be turning in his grave that Drumpf was born too late to help.
  
  2 30
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 5:45pm
  - Ross12
    
    Go and take your meds William. You must have missed a dose.
    
    19 4
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 5:47pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      “missed a dose”
      
      A? A Dose??? Fucker is so short of suitable medication Pharmac would go broke purchasing the required dosage.
      
      12 4
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 6:40pm
  - Jack5
    
    Drilling Billy, the retired flying-dentist: would you like Trump if he believed in Global Warming?
    
    12 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 5:49pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    “Nobody expected enough Americans to go completely fucking mad and elect a pig-ignorant, vindictive, narcissistic, delusional and unhinged habitual liar.”
    
    You mean – like you, William?
    
    15 4
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:05pm
  - MrLovebucket
    
    They didn’t. They went for Trump instead.
    
    7 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:19pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    But they did WoO, twice, in 2008 and 2012. Delusional indeed.
    
    Obama, the.worst.president.ever – the interesting thing was to try to work out, was there any end to the shallowness of the man ?
    
    5 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 10:06pm
    - axeman
      
      Exactly Ed. “The Obama legacy is going to be so small you’re going to need a microscope to find it” – Newt Gingrich Jan 2017
      
      2 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 23, 2018 1:52am
- Gabby
  
  And now they’re eyeballs deep in manuro.
  
  4 13
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 5:50pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Yeah – Dow up, unemployment down, consumer spending up and business confidence tracking up also. They’re positively tanking. Better get some of that damn sosheelism to fix it gosh darn it.
    
    9 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:17pm
rightoverlabour

Seen this kiwibloggers? I do believe it will need its own post. So the council is basically saying “Fuck Off”…..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/100790275/auckland-activist-penny-bright-forced-to-sell-house
23 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 5:55pm
- burt
  
  Just spotted that. One of the 1% that own freehold property in Auckland is being brought down a peg. Penny will be delighted to see a wealthy person being forced to pay their fair share for society.
  
  16 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 6:02pm
David Garrett

I have just read that my dear Penny is having her house sold up to pay her $35,000 rates bill…Oh Penny…why didn’t you seek my help? Call me now dear one, and let me loose on the council…

Other than your excellent lentil stew, there will of course be no charge for my services…
26 3
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 5:55pm
- Jack5
  
  Yep, the Auckland Council is forcing Penny Dull to sell her house to pay her rates.
  
  Penny, if the Auckland property bubble pops after the sale, you should make on the deal. The council will have done you a favour.
  
  Remember: you could be queen bee of a small town near the sea, with pottery, Chardonnay-socialist soirées, letters to the local rag, and perhaps battling the little local council.
  
  16 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 6:01pm
  - Jack5
    
    Or, Penny, you could use your drive, energy and metal-trade skills to weld up a striking modernist house. An up-you to the council.
    
    10 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 6:10pm
- burt
  
  Why do the rich freehold property owners get your free assistance DG?
  
  10 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 6:03pm
  - nasska
    
    Not all rich, freehold ratepayers burt……just Penny.
    
    It’s an “affaire d’amour”. 🙂
    
    12 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 6:12pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Thank you Nasska…you are one of the few who understand my deep affection for Penny…and that red lippy that is her trademark doesn’t arf give me the fucking horn! (With apologies to Peter Cook)
      
      Burt: You clearly have never tasted Penny’s lentil stew…and she does a mean vegetarian and fetta cheese casserole…But that Graeme McCready she lets stay on her couch from time to time…No time at all for that basket…
      
      18 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 6:18pm
- MrTips
  
  It does present a problem in that we will have to find something else to admonish her about…..”pay your …(insert legal obligation of choice)”
  
  But that won’t be difficult ?
  
  10 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 6:06pm
- Harriet
  
  What’s the difference between an ice hockey player and Penny?
  
  An ice hockey player showers after the 3rd period. 😎
  
  7 6
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 6:14pm
  - Harkman
    
    Ignore the naysayers Harriet, that my friend was hilarious ?
    
    3 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:30pm
hullkiwi

…and the road to justice is long & tortuous.

News that Auckland Council has lodged an application with the High Court to get an order to sell Bright’s house to recover the unpaid rates & costs. About time.

While there is some merit in her fight against the council & the CCOs, it is actually a socialist campaign against the use of private companies to provide council services, because she believes the council should provide the services from its own resources. A campaign of the misguided.
10 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 6:11pm
Maggy Wassilieff

OK folks,
I’m starting a “Give lot$ ” campaign to save Penny’s house for her.

Send your generous donations and non-dodgy cheques to:

Honest Maggles
Kaiti Ghetto
Gizzy
20 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 6:12pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Its not the worst idea Maggy, Imagine if she left Auckland for Gizzy after this episode??
  
  Give a little and keep her there I say!
  
  9 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:16pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    If the average price for a Kingsland house is just over $1 M, then Penny would be able to buy a fairly substantial property here, or 5 ordinary 3-bedroomed houses on quarter acre sections.
    Then she could run for Mayor…After 6 terms, Meng might be thinking of putting his feet up.
    
    7 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 8:44pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Maggy
  
  Just send a signed deposit slip to me care of:
  
  Prince Mugumbwe
  The Palms
  Nigeria.
  
  I’ll then be able to organise funds transfers to best advantage.
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:20pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Dear Prince Mugumbwe,
    
    that would be so helpful.
    
    I’m sending you a couple of goats as a token of our appreciation.
    
    6 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:32pm
mara

There is something deeply wrong with Gabby but I don’t know exactly what it is. But what I do know is that if I were Jacinda’s mother I would be nervous about an anxious, thin daughter who is being lauded by the MSM as a superwomam expected to revitalise male and female discussion because she is suddenly gravid while PM. If Jacinda lovers really cared about her and put politics aside they would tell her to go home and care for the baby. The boyfriend will get bored really quickly.
16 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 6:18pm
- David Garrett
  
  Mara: apparently the boyfriend puts it about a bit…and boasts about it on this social media thingie…wouldn’t have thought that would appeal to Cindy…But love is blind and all that…and she is from the same party as Mr Benson-Pope…I wonder if he still wears his ballsack stretcher at the local sex club?
  
  A sex club in Dunedin! bugger me, it hardly bears thinking about…
  
  20 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 6:23pm
- Harriet
  
  It’s a shame the French don’t visit to make amends — then the boyfriend would be stuck entertaining that old hag……..and given both their form…. 😎
  
  5 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 6:23pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Harriet: what, Mrs Macron is a bit of goer is she? I wouldn’t mind an evening with the last one…Mr Sarkozy’s Mrs…
    
    10 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 6:28pm
    - Harriet
      
      Macron’s wife likes ’em young. No shit, Macron at one stage was in the same class as her daughter!
      
      Yeah I forgot about her – Carla Bruni or whatever — Keating had a classy one also — former airline hostess from memory.
      
      8 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 6:35pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Harriet: Yes…Well, Sadly I think my days as a toy boy are a fond but distant memory…apart from which the “older women” now are all about 75!
        
        Mind you, there was that time in Cannes 100 years ago…
        
        9 3
        Report
        January 22, 2018 6:39pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Bloody lefties…
        
        Throwing an old woman out of her house!
        Can’t blame Key or the Nats for this coming debacle.
        
        14 2
        Report
        January 22, 2018 6:53pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Harriet: Yes…Thea Muldoon and Naomi Lange are not quite in the same league…
        
        7 3
        Report
        January 22, 2018 6:57pm
David Garrett

Maggy: Old?? Wash you mouth out with astringent soap! My Penny is only just past the flowering of her youth…
11 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 6:56pm
- Jack5
  
  Wow! Go Penny.
  
  Just how old was this youth she (de)flowered?
  
  10 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 7:05pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Rather than flowering youth I think Penny is more like a dried arrangement.
  
  13 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 7:19pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  DG – I assume you mean “flowering” as in this?
  
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphophallus_titanum
  
  8 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 7:21pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Salacious: Now now…NO, in fact as I think I have said before on here, My Penny smells delightfully of tuberoses…
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:25pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I defer to your years of legal haggling…
  
  but I thought someone could make a case that it was irresponsible/negligent for the ACC to let a deluded old lady accumulate thousands of dollars of debt over a period of 11 years.
  
  Anyway, Penny is 63/64…. 1 year younger than me…and I’ve been a little old lady for yonks!
  
  9 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 7:36pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Maggy: You are both delightfully well preserved…
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:41pm
  - nasska
    
    Many a good tune is played on an old fiddle Maggy. 🙂
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 7:44pm
UpandComer

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/21/fbi-failed-preserve-anti-trump-texts/

The Left are absolutely shameless.

I really hope, ‘ironically’, that Trump eventually starts executing people in the FBI, CIA and DNC. Public executions – either hung by the neck from a gibbet, torn to pieces by oxen, or shot to death by firing squad by citizens of the Republic.

Just when you thought they couldn’t get more comically corrupt.

This is why people look at Jordan Peterson and say, well he’s a good, mild man, but what’s really needed are good old fashioned right wing death squads.

Not that I would espouse that or follow it of course, but I’ve heard the sentiment expressed by others. What do you do in the face of such shameless, gormless, brazen corruption and contempt for the rule of law?

Every govt institution under King Bama just deletes terrabytes of data that shows them being corrupt. It’s fucking unbelievable.
9 5
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 7:02pm
- Jack5
  
  Upandcomer, can you elaborate please on what you mean by: “I really hope, ‘ironically’, that Trump eventually starts executing people.”
  
  You want Trump to kill them or you have reservations?????
  
  8 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 7:11pm
- labrator
  
  …but what’s really needed are good old fashioned right wing death squads.
  
  Not that I would espouse that or follow it of course…
  
  No of course you wouldn’t espouse it at all, that would involve things like writing it down and publishing it on the internet…
  
  4 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:14pm
- Ed Snack
  
  I could not support the death penalty, even for treason, but life sentences in a real federal pen would be object lessons.
  
  This is presuming that the evidence is as damning as it sounds – it may not of course, partisan politics being what it is, but what evidence we have to date suggests that an effective coup d’état was plotted and put into action by members of the FBI, DOJ, and members of the Obama administration.
  
  Of course we’re likely to find that Obama himself “first read about it in the newspapers…” as was his wont.
  
  It definitely seems the right time for a special counsel or two, to investigate the corruption in the FBI and DOJ and in the Obama administration generally. Lynch is in the frame, as is Rhodes, Samantha Powers, Susan Rice, lucky for Holder he was probably out by the time this really started.
  
  And give some firepower to the division of the FBI (in Alabama) that is investigating the Clinton Foundation – give it some real teeth, a grand jury and possibly a special counsel too.
  
  3 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 10:17pm
Digmen1

How dare Turkey invade another country and attack people, just because they are Kurds.
Ok some Kurds have launched attacks on the repressive Turkish govetment.
But did Turkey ever blame these people in Afrin?

Nato should be ashamed of their Asian/Muslim member.
I hope Nato boot them out.

The usesless UN is asking for restraint!
(And the USA and France)
11 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 7:24pm
nasska

Recently on another site I received a warning about the use of the term, “towel heads” which is it seems a politically incorrect term. Please note, we all need to be more sensitive in our choice of words. I have been informed that the Islamic terrorists who hate our guts & want to kill us do not like to be called “Towel Heads” since the item they wear on their heads is not a towel but actually a small, folded sheet. Therefore, from this point forward, please refer to them as “Little Sheet Heads.”

Thank you for your support & compliance on this delicate matter.
18 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:03pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Would that be the site that delights in terms like “feral” and ‘calls it like it is’?
  
  6 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:43pm
rightoverlabour

I always thought it was Rag Heads. Little Sheet Heads is ok though….
7 2
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:21pm
- lifesgood
  
  Have you got an Aussie accent?
  
  5 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 9:10pm
Nostradamus

Auckland Council has published this media statement regarding Penny Bright. I note the following information:

• In May 2017 the High Court issued a notice pursuant to the LGRA requiring Ms Bright to pay the judgment sum, costs and all remaining rates due on the property.
• After a compulsory six-month stand down period, in December 2017 the council requested the High Court to proceed with the sale of the property.
• Throughout this period the council has continued to invite Ms Bright to make payment or to apply for a rates postponement. No payment or application has been received.

Penny misled Kiwiblog readers when she wrote this on 3 January 2018:

As I am still not receiving the ‘democratic services’ to which I am lawfully entitled regarding transparency in rates spending under the Public Records Act 2005, my rates are still being disputed, and I am still refusing to pay.

There is currently no ‘live’ Court action.

Penny also misled the High Court in 2016:

In her notice of appeal Ms Bright advances as the grounds for appeal:
…
(c) the Judge failed to give sufficient weight to the steps she says she had taken to try to resolve issues with the Council;
(d) that the Judge did not give sufficient weight to the fact the Council had “effectively offered [her] rates postponement” which she stated she would consider once information was provided;
(e) the Council’s postponement offer had not been withdrawn so the matter should not have been taken to the Court;

Misleading Kiwiblog readers is bad enough – but misleading the High Court is a big no-no!
14 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:28pm
nasska

In your learned & professional opinion would these “discrepancies” prejudice any further Court action Penny may take on this matter Nostra?
8 1
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 8:43pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  I looked up the legislation regarding the High Court sale process a few years ago. I’m just going off memory here, but I don’t think there’s scope for Penny to advance a defence, other than to provide evidence that she’s fully paid the outstanding rates debt. In any event, if I were a High Court judge who’s aware of her tendency to mislead, I’d want to scrutinise every word of every statement that she makes!
  
  9 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  January 22, 2018 8:51pm
  - lifesgood
    
    She’ll be ok. She’s got a tent in the middle of Quay St.
    
    7 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:12pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      She can pitch it in Aotea Square when she feels like going on holiday.
      
      7 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:26pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        thedavincimode:
        
        when she feels like going on holiday
        
        … or when she decides to attend an overseas conference on corruption or the rule of law!
        
        6 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:41pm
      - RF
        
        I know a nice warm sewer pipe that could be used as temporary housing. The bonus is running water.
        
        6 0
        Report
        January 22, 2018 9:47pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    Nostradamus
    You are correct about a rating sale.
    It is an adminstrative process handled by the court but is not a judicial process. Similar to Mortgagee sales by the registrar of the High Court or applications to the registrar to arrest a ship.
    As it is an administrative process it is a box ticking exercise. The only way to stop the process is to cough up the outstanding rates, the costs payable on the proceedings and then the costs on the process, both the registrars and the lawyers the registrar retains (generally Simpson Greirson) so that wont be cheap.
    
    9 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    January 22, 2018 9:25pm
    - alex Masterley
      
      I forgot to add, (addressed to Ms Bright) ha ha ha ha.
      
      7 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:31pm
    - nasska
      
      Martyrdom is an expensive pastime nowadays. 🙂
      
      5 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      January 22, 2018 9:48pm
Inandout

Steve Hilton on Sky gave a very measured account of the Clinton Foundation. The coincidences with certain contractors and countries making donations to CF, and amazingly then getting government contracts. Even the most ardent CF supporter would have to have second thoughts.
6 0
Log in to Reply
Report
January 22, 2018 9:56pm
Manolo

I hope Trump wins:
http://beta.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-california-20180122-story.html
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
January 23, 2018 7:20am

Add a Comment Cancel reply

Login to comment or vote

« US Government shuts down

Guest Post: The curious confidence in numbers when officials (mis)count the blessings of social policy »

Donations

You can now donate to Kiwiblog

Exclusive content from DPF on Patreon

Become a Patron!

Never miss a post

Email Address

Join 37.4K other subscribers

Highlights

Health Target 5 – elective treatments
Health Target 4 – Specialist appointments
Health Target 3 – Emergency Dept Waiting Times
Health Target 2 – Immunisations

Links

Quotation of the Day…
Utopia
The Power of Big Ice Cream
No Minister
Word of the day
Hompaddock
The Infamous TDB Political Awards 2024
The Daily Blog
Open mike 22/12/2024
The Standard
"... a broader, decade-long 'crank realignment' in American politics."
Not PC
Fast-track Approvals Bill passes but Te P?ti M?ori threatens applicants
Point of Order
2024 OIA stats
No Right Turn
SHALLOW THINKING
No Punches Pulled (Bob Jones)
Jacinda’s “Act” of kindness has increased abortions 23%
Bob McCoskrie's McBlog
About Syria.
Kiwipolitico
Supreme Court Activism
NZCPR
Orr on Q&A – Part II
Croaking Cassandra
United Rugby Championship Predictions for Week 8
Stats Chat
Misuse of land use planning
Offsetting Behaviour
Tory Whanau may have to sell Wellington mayoralty to make ends meet
The Civilian
The Accidental Engagement
Imperator Fish
Legal Beagle: Election '23: The Special Votes
Public Address
Making this movie might have been a mistake
Liam Hehir
Why I am retiring from political blogging
Kiwi FireWalker