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mandk

86% of 52.2k readers on Stuff think that abandoning National Standards is a bad idea.

Still, who cares? The NZEI is happy.
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December 13, 2017 8:02am
- KevOB
  
  National Standards had some basic measurement.
  Reporting was left to teachers. The nonsense we got appeared straight out of a pedagogy degree course.
  
  Teachers surprisingly are mainly hopeless in communicating and interpreting formal requirements. I think they may have sent home their uni term pupil assessments. They could have just said “OK”
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:40am
  - srylands
    
    Anecdote… I recently read a school report for a Year 11 student. Daughter of a friend. The friend.. the mother was really pleased.
    
    What alarmed me was I had no idea what it meant. It was riddled with passive voice and qualifiers. e. g. ‘In light of the constraints, Julie is performing to a higher than expected level of achievement…’
    
    So as I read it, I started to think there were coded problems here. But the thing is, why should a parent need to read and decode such rubbish?
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:20am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      My kids are at primary school and I get reports that say exactly what year level they are achieving at in reading, writing and maths. There is literally a line from start of year 1 to end of year 8 and their current level is marked as a point on that line. It could not be clearer. Whether it is accurate is another matter of course.
      
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      December 13, 2017 9:32am
      - waikatosinger
        
        You are lucky. Mostly what I saw was variations on the theme of “so and so” is achieving well at the “such and such” level, followed by some fluff about how they behave in class.
        
        Parents see the “achieving well” bit and think their kid is doing OK. You had to be familiar with what the levels are to realise that what it was really telling you was your kid was two years behind the rest of the class.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:49am
      - waikatogirl
        
        It’s not about child education, it’s about the teachers and their union support. The education union dislike education standards so it is easy to see why many teachers have taken the route of not completing the report clearly. The system was sabotaged and now has reached its obvious conclusion – cancelled.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:59am
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        I was a school board member for just over seven years, and was so when National Standards were implemented.
        What they did, was allow the schools to have an expansive data set on each child. And of course, data on teacher performance. And therein lies the crux of Labours objection to Standards. Their union friends do not like the fact that bad teachers can be identified easily, and dealt with.
        For instance, kids going through teacher A’s class, in general meet or exceed standards, and their data shows the results. Those kids then go through a year with Teacher B. Results slump. Data clearly shows the areas where failure is occurring. Following year, kids go to Teacher C. Results leap up again.
        And sure, it could be a one off for Teacher B, but if this becomes a trend, the information doesn’t lie.
        
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        December 13, 2017 10:32am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Just like plunket books use?
        
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        December 13, 2017 2:39pm
waikatogirl

Government strips $350,000 from Kids Can charity who feed 30,000 kids a week and hands out shoes and raincoats, and health products to needy children. The CEO says the funding cut was a surprise considering the message the CoL has been giving pre-election. The Ministry said “there is no money in the governments 100 day plan to fund child poverdy.”

Cindy’s gave her personal guarantee during the election to fix child poverdy in NZ. Is stripping Kids Can part of Cindy’s master plan to fix child poverdy?

Paula Bennett says the government are failing in their promise to end child poverty. The $350k is a drop in the bucket of government spending and cannot understand how it will help the CoL’s objective.

A major flip-flop by the CoL with Cindy’s having a personal interest in this portfolio.
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December 13, 2017 8:03am
- starboard
  
  Where are their scum parents?
  Maybe the ‘CEO’ of the ‘charity’ is pissed she is going to lose her fat salary?
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:05am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Down at the City Mission for the annual handout of x’mas presents. ?
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:10am
    - starboard
      
      Ztrev was seen down there last xmas..heh what a loser!?
      
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      December 13, 2017 8:18am
      - softail 1450
        
        starboard, ztrev was probably kiddy shopping.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:19am
    - KKKKatee
      
      The same old bludgers turn up yet again for something for nothing. Nothing to see here.
      Except for latest cell phones, designer handbags etc. etc.
      
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      December 13, 2017 8:21am
      - sam green
        
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        Been helping out kkkkaddeeee?
        
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        December 13, 2017 8:37am
      - Random T Person
        
        Speaking of which. The bludgers are pretty picky, according to Stuff. Don’t eat tomatoes or lentils, the poor dears, they want meat and ‘vegetables’ (lentils and tomatoes don’t count, evidently). Oh, and cash. Hand over your cash.
        GFY, is my instinctive response.
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/99767397/give-generously–but-please-no-tinned-tomatoes-or-chickpeas-say-charities
        
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        December 13, 2017 8:38am
      - starboard
        
        Adults talking green sam..dont interupt its rude.
        
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        December 13, 2017 8:40am
      - Brito
        
        RED Sam what are you doing on at this hour??
        
        Ah, school holidays. Right!!
        
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        December 13, 2017 8:42am
      - Tempist
        
        Tomato(e)s are a fruit, RTP, so they don’t technically count as a vegetable… they are offered for free so gift horses and all that
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:04am
      - srylands
        
        I think it was chickpeas they hated. I liked the quote. “What are our people supposed to do with chickpeas?”
        
        Well fucking eat them I guess.
        
        About 20 years ago I fell on hard times. Falafel made from chick peas and garlic was a staple. Cheap and full of protein.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:24am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        At the end of that story it says comments have been closed and all comments are deleted. Sounds like they received some feedback that didn’t fit the narrative.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:35am
      - GoVege
        
        Don’t you hate ingratitude?
        Maybe the gals at the refuge could teach their inmates how to cook cheap healthy food using tomatoes and chickpeas…and even onions, lentils, beans etc…
        
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        December 13, 2017 12:57pm
      - GoVege
        
        This reminds me of a few years ago when I parked in GI at a cash machine.
        It was very hot so the car windows were down.
        Within a minute an older Maori lady obviously under the influence plonked her elbows on my window.
        “I need money for meat”.
        Me..”sorry, I’m a vegetarian”.
        Her… (slightly annoyed) …” I mean I want MONEY for meat”.
        Me…”I know what you mean but I don’t want to give you money FOR meat”.
        Then mum gave her $4 to go get plastered some more…. 🙂
        
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        December 13, 2017 1:09pm
- mandk
  
  Charity is a dirty word if you are a socialist ideologue.
  
  The state should take care of everything.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:05am
  - RalphT
    
    Don’t you mean that the (socialist) state should take everything?
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:53am
- holysheet
  
  What poverdy? have you missed the message, Bill and the Nats fixed that last month. Cindy’s promise was made before the drunken dwarf threw her in the deep end. Now she knows she made an unnecessary promise that will come back to haunt her on a daily basis.
  There is no child poverdy here in NZ. Its called parent neglect.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:09am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    That’s right. So – they refer to ‘relative poverty’.
    You know – too many relatives being born.
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:16am
- KKKKatee
  
  Cindy now knows she can’t fix child poverdy and has egg on her face somewhat by indicating she needs National to work with her on it. But, but, but – she campaigned on ridding the nation of child poverdy because National weren’t doing enough to fix it so she would. Yeah right. The reality is that Ardern hasn’t got a clue how to go about it and H2 has probably had a wee conversation with her and told her to get real, as it’s an impossible task. And that’s the sole reason Ardern got into politics in the first place because she told us so……
  Ardern is now finding that she can’t walk the talk..
  But we knew that anyway….
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:18am
  - Piniwi
    
    True KKKKatee but National would be very wise to reject this idea of cross party tactics as it is only an attempt at burden default from the Commie Chick. This issue is her reason for being in politics and could end up being her biggest failure of all. Especially after the latest figures already show the progress made by the previous Government from a sound policy method and no knee jerk action.
    Then those gains will be wiped out when 50,000 more would have been lifted out of poverty on April 1 next year. It makes a joke of her proposed bill to change the elements of measure to make it look just virtue signalling. Even more so that she thinks legislating will be effective by setting a target where they reject using targets for anything else. See Septic tank Minister of Welfare on the number of beneficiaries in Oral Question Time today.
    
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    December 13, 2017 5:40pm
- ztev
  
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  “A major flip-flop by the CoL with Cindy’s having a personal interest in this portfolio.”
  
  Its a decision by the ministry, likely based on the funding they were given by national.
  Often these sort of things are done on 3 year cycles and there is no automatic roll over.
  Likely they will qualify for new funding round next year any way.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:38am
  - KevOB
    
    The Ministry doesn’t make Executive decisions. 100 days is enough.
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:44am
    - ztev
      
      yes it does. Thats what they have a chief executive for
      The amount of money spent on the overall program will be decided by government, say $150 mill for funding NGOs in this area
      
      Which NGOs and how much for each are decisions by officials.
      
      You have the understanding of how government departments of a 10 year old
      
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      December 13, 2017 9:26am
      - KevOB
        
        Who is in the Executive governing NZ?
        Clue: they are in Parliament.
        
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        December 13, 2017 11:55am
      - ztev
        
        Governance old toerag
        
        As the Cabinet Manual puts it.
        “Ministers decide both the direction of and the priorities for their departments. They are generally not involved in their departments’ day-to-day operations. In general terms, Ministers are responsible for determining and promoting policy, defending policy decisions, and answering in the House on both policy and operational matters.”
        jeesh you are stupid
        https://www.dpmc.govt.nz/our-business-units/cabinet-office/supporting-work-cabinet/cabinet-manual/3-ministers-crown-and-2
        
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        December 13, 2017 12:17pm
  - Lance
    
    I doubt it.
    That smarmy wench Tracy Martin was on the AM show practically giggling at screwing over this charity as it was (somehow) associated with National.
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:48am
    - CHFR1
      
      Kids Can is one of the few charities I support as they walk the walk on this. They not only help out the kids but have educated the mothers over nits (many are now nit nurses in schools) budgeting etc.
      This is one charity that would love to not exist and FYI the CEO is not well paid, she prefers the $$ to go where it is needed.
      
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      December 13, 2017 8:54am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        I just wish that they wouldn’t put their name on the shoes and raincoats etc. How is that not ‘identifying’ the child as neglected?
        
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        December 13, 2017 2:44pm
    - softail 1450
      
      lance, that POS martin is just as loathsome as the gnome peters….
      
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      December 13, 2017 9:23am
    - Tricati
      
      Agree Lance – I saw the muppet with her smary answers back peddling on the AM show.
      Nats need to focus on this in Question Time, particularly at Cindy; asking is this the CoL approach to reducing child poverty.
      
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      December 13, 2017 9:25am
    - freethinker
      
      And never answered Duncans questions – obviously passed the H1 H2 school of obfuscation test.
      
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      December 13, 2017 12:50pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Duncan did quite well.
        
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        December 13, 2017 2:45pm
      - sooty
        
        There’s a song about duncan.
        
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        December 13, 2017 6:42pm
  - jcuk
    
    Considering the reserves the organisation has they will weather it without cuts …. 359K from 10 million is not a big problem some are making out.
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:46am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Wrong ztev, the reports have all been about the funding provision post 1 July 2018. These budget allocations are yet to be confirmed or set in a budget.
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:48am
    - ztev
      
      Right Ztev.
      All those limited time funding arrangements run out for everyone.
      Have they been told the new government is slashing state expenditure and no one is getting funding renewed?
      
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      December 13, 2017 12:20pm
      - freethinker
        
        The CEO said their 350k of funding was baseline.
        
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        December 13, 2017 12:51pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Probably some other “charity” has it’s eye on that $350,000.
  
  I await an announcement of some new venture that does pretty much the same as Kids Can, and headed by some well-connected luvvie.
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:03am
  - softail 1450
    
    maggy, it will of course have to be either a gay or a “person of colour”to qualify.
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:27am
    - freethinker
      
      And preferably female, transgender or not sure.
      
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      December 13, 2017 12:52pm
- howitis
  
  I was impressed by Tracey Martin on the teev this morning. I have not seen her interviewed before.
  
  The lady from Kidscan was on the Teev earlier telling a tall story about how a cut in discretionary funding of $350,000 would end ALL their good work. Waah waah waah.
  The story teller -Julie Chapman- said that a cut of $350,000 would mean they cut services to the 300,000 children in poverdy… here we go again… and it is all woe.
  
  T. Martin was a good interviewee but of course it was the biased low IQ food terrorist Drunken Garner doing the talking so the standard at the media end was never going to be high.
  This was the first time I have seen Martin in an interview and she came across well. She answered questions, was prepped, and volunteered additional facts.
  Garner was a bit too dumb to realise this. He had done not an ounce of research and his financial ability seems to be close to zero. He just extended the waah waah waah approach.
  
  It appears that Kidscan has $5m in reserves and $10m in annual revenue. $1.5 mill is in Govt funding some of which is discretionary and is also contested funds. Of course Drunken Garner will not understand this and never avail himself to learning. Media huh!
  
  The Kidscan lady was simply embellishing fantasies and the media, via Drunken Garner, was facilitating it.
  
  I dealt with Whiny Phil Twitford 20 years ago when he was at Oxfam. He was the same whiny prick he is today. Everybody else had to give to him. Pick me. Pick me.
  I have dealt with charities and they are motivated to get as much as they can and often it is more about the ego and ‘look at me’ attitude of the figureheads than it is about the beneficiaries. The UK has had more exposure on this in the last 4 years. See eg
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835947/The-Great-British-rake-really-happens-billions-donate-charity-Fat-cat-pay-appalling-waste-hidden-agendas.html
  
  Our so-called charities in NZ get a free ride and the tax deductibility of more than half the 27,000 registered charities should be seriously examined.
  Greenpeace and Sanitarium come to mind. Ironically, whilst Greenpeace engages in illegal activity it happily used the court system to have its 2010 removal of charity status reinstated.
  Salvation Army should be told to pull its head in over the politics. It is just another outfit overtaken by commies. They find ‘soft, well meaning people and organisations’ and manipulate them.
  The Green Party is a prime example of such a hijacking.
  
  Good on Tracey Martin for standing up to bullying. Bullying by media who are not in possession of facts and are too damn lazy to search for some. If it is not on a twitter feed or hash tag they are all at sea.
  Garner showed again what a fool he is. (didn’t buy travel insurance for his Bali holiday he bought months ago, was going to leave it to the last minute, duh)
  
  A two minute search shows that Destiny Church have applied to Kidscan for funding because the former is dodgy.
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/201860597/destiny-school-applies-for-help-from-kidscan
  … When Checkpoint visited Destiny School today a 2015 Mercedes-Benz SLK 200 sportscar purchased last year – by Destiny Church co-founder Hannah Tamaki for $75,000 – was parked outside.
  Ms Tamaki has been criticised this year for her spending – she recently purchased another Mercedes-Benz – an AMG SUV – for more than $200,000.
  Ms Chapman said it was irrelevant who owned or ran Destiny School because KidsCan would help wherever there were children in need…..
  
  The 2016 Annual Report shows $10m in income including $1.5 m from Govt.
  Expenditure:
  -$3.7 mill is straight donations handed over so one would assume gumboots and raincoats passed on.
  -$3.2 mill is paid in ‘programme costs’
  -$2.44 mill is paid in salaries. This is a high percentage of the income not necessarily passed on directly to beneficiaries.
  It sucks up all the income from ‘Donations In Our Own Backyard™ Campaign’ plus bequests just to pay salaries at 25% of turnover.
  This does not sound efficient to me.
  https://www.kidscan.org.nz/about-us/annual-reports
  
  It looks like the CEO of Kidscan (Julie Chapman) has fallen down the rabbit hole of self indulgent out-of-touch charities disconnected from reality and needs a 200 metre rope to haul her back to reality. Chumming up to the lying media, trying to put a Minister under pressure based on lies and obfuscation is not a smart way to win friends and funding.
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:26am
  - Lance
    
    You mean the minister trying to out smarm Twiford?
    Must have been a different interview to the one I saw
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:42am
- backster
  
  Perhaps the 23 million slush fund for the re- entry to the Poke River Mine could manage with $350 000 less and still produce a just as useful report, prhaps with one less member..
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:26am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Tooth Fairy will fix it by lunch time…moving on…nothing to see here….
  
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  December 13, 2017 12:00pm
  - GoVege
    
    I don’t want to be unkind, but I noticed on the box last night that another political leader is WAY worse in the dental department.
    Of course the “Left” wouldn’t be so nasty as to say so.
    But maybe you could drop the derogatory comments.
    
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    December 13, 2017 4:57pm
- MrLovebucket
  
  But rich kids leaving high school can now get paid to study yoga and golf – and that’s what counts.
  
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  December 13, 2017 4:38pm
- Piniwi
  
  Funny Waikatogirl that their argument for this $350,000 being cut is because National set a time limit. IMO that is a wise thing as they would have then been able to increase the amount along with a revised time table. The healthy surplus would have made this an easy, logical progression. It is also associated with other measures to provide for children in need and not an isolated matter.
  
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  December 13, 2017 5:13pm
oldgolfer

Cindy gets spanking from Barnaby Joyce. Is there a better way to start a Wednesday?
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December 13, 2017 8:03am
- RalphT
  
  Don’t worry, Winnie will put that nasty Mr Joyce in his place and defend the honour of our Cindy.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:05am
- KKKKatee
  
  Ooh! I loved that response from Barnaby Joyce. But the big question is this – will jibber jabber Ardern actually listen? So far her listening skills are failing her. She doesn’t appear to listen and/or comprehend the big issues. Her appointment as PM is a bit like putting a newly hatched chicken in charge of the hen house. Certainly looks that way so far. She surely takes the mantle for the most despised PM after only 40+ days in office.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:10am
  - RalphT
    
    To date she’s never listened to comments she didn’t like so why expect her to start now?
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:38am
  - ztev
    
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    Spanking ? have you seen the polls for the Aussie Coalition of the smaller parties ?
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:40am
    - dime
      
      i know youre a low rent troll, but here is another version of your garbage analogy
      
      “geez did you hear john give that epic dressing down to paul?”
      
      “dressing down? i hear sales at johns business are down”
      
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      December 13, 2017 8:48am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  let’s have a link
  http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/larry-williams-drive/audio/barnaby-joyce-ive-got-the-safest-seat-in-australia/
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:04am
- Piniwi
  
  Yes but oldgolfer she managed to fail again by adopting an adversarial response instead of opting to show a little humility. It illustrates one of her biggest weaknesses in being easy to provoke when just a little humility would have let the matter lie.
  
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  December 13, 2017 5:44pm
ztev

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/12/11/67420/ombudsman-sides-with-govt-over-coalition-document

Fancy that. Boshier said he had “carefully read and considered” the document, saying it was “clearly made for the purpose of assisting the parties with coalition negotiations”.
From memory didnt NZ First-national have something similar ??
Anymore cars to run after , barking, or will they stick to barking at the lamposts over minor procedural matters in parliament ?
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December 13, 2017 8:03am
- rangitoto
  
  Let’s be absolutely open and transparent about that.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:05am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Yes let’s. And let’s not lose sight of the fact that the Ombudsman issued a second statement yesterday saying that he had not yet reached a final decision on this issue.
    
    Of course, that doesn’t stop ztev from telling lies; it must be a day ending in d-a-y…
    
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    December 13, 2017 10:15am
    - ztev
      
      A ‘draft’ decision and whats going to make it change for the final decision.
      hes read the documents, hes drawn his conclusions.
      
      Grasping at straws much, but dont let that stop you lying when I quote his exact words
      
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      December 13, 2017 12:23pm
- mandk
  
  So what?
  
  Why can’t the CoL share it anyway?
  
  What are they hiding?
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:07am
  - Paulus
    
    Believe that there are copies outside those so important to cover it up.
    But I believe that there is a small problem as to how to leak it without Winestoned taking legal action to get some headlines that he loves, although he said it should be released.
    Expect drip feed which has started but only for irrelevant bits.
    We could well get more once Parliament closes tomorrow as everybody will be on holiday and the media are done for the year too.
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:14am
    - flipper
      
      The most likely problem is that the thrice seat loser has outlined (in detail and precision) how he will deny and blame others for the seven years of super overpayment. Notably he has declined consent to disclose the claim forms.
      But did this public purse sucker add interest at the appropriate annual rate to the yearly over payment ?
      As a former “Treasurer” he would well know that should be/have been done.
      
      No matter how the dementia suffering pisshead spins it, the truth will eventually “out”. I’m not making any allegation, nor professing any inside knowledge, but I suspect his secret legal proceedings while apparently engaged in honest, and genuine, coalition negotiations, will result in those documents being sought by way of discovery.
      Peters clearly believes that he is superior even to the wily Niccolo Machiavelli, in his ability to fudge, mislead, manipulate and lie. But after his latest efforts, he needs to be aware that he is swimming in White Pointer dominated waters without a shark cage !! The big beasts from the blue will get him and his surrogates.
      
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      December 13, 2017 11:13am
  - rangitoto
    
    Winnie can use it as a bargaining chip. He will threaten to release it if Taxinda causes any trouble for Winston first
    
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    December 13, 2017 11:01am
- Nukuleka
  
  You mean ‘minor procedural matters’ such as electing the Speaker of the House and other examples of total governmental incompetence?
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:10am
- Brito
  
  No they didn’t and if you suggest otherwise you are a scurrilous fabricator of fake news.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:11am
- starboard
  
  If the COL cant even get ‘minor procedural matters’ right ztrev..how can they possibly run our country?
  Its not fucking playschool,
  These rejects are playing with peoples lives.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:15am
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    Thats because you never heard about nationals procedures stuff ups here…no sireee
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:42am
    - Brito
      
      Ok, name one and show us how you came to that conclusion sonny boy.
      
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      December 13, 2017 8:52am
    - starboard
      
      Thats because there were none ztrev.
      Liarbor are only fit for opposition by the way..and it cant come soon enough.
      
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      December 13, 2017 8:59am
- cmm
  
  It is nothing to do with legal requirements.
  
  People who have promised to be the most open and transparent government ever are surely expected to open up willingly, not when forced to do so by an onbudsman.
  
  Morality and ethics are defined by what people do willingly, not when forced to do so.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:32am
  - Piniwi
    
    True cmm. Start out in the way you intend to carry on rather than repetitive virtue signalling. If the final decision is a gag order then this issue will not go away. It will remain a big stick to bash the COL with at will.
    
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    December 13, 2017 5:53pm
- G152
  
  Sounding desperate there ztev
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:44am
- niggly
  
  From the link headline: Ombudsman sides with Govt over coalition document
  
  Chief Ombudsman Peter Boshier has backed the Government’s refusal to release a 33-page coalition document, saying in a provisional ruling he is satisfied it has not played a role in policy decisions
  
  Heh – looks like H2 has had a “quiet” word in Peter Boshier’s ear and has given him the message: there is nothing to see here, move on! 😉
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:50am
  - Victor Omega
    
    I’m sure I read earlier in the week that he gave them 5 days to release it, is this an about face?
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:20am
    - ztev
      
      You are ” imagining it”
      
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      December 13, 2017 9:31am
  - flipper
    
    H2….. H2 ???
    Oh, you surely do not refer to the dyke that threatened and bullied Parliament’s bureaucrats into paying Clark’s pledge card bill, when Labour could not fund it ??? How much was it??
    
    Nah… it couldn’t be that H2 … nor the one that so aggravated long term bureaucrats at the UN that they helped other candidates seeking the SEC GEN appointment.
    
    Nah… dyke Simpson would never do that. Would it ???
    
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    December 13, 2017 11:25am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      I have no time whatsoever for Heather Simpson flipper, but isn’t it time we stopped identifying people by their sexual orientation? A phrase like “dyke Simpson” says far more about you than it does about her.
      
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      December 13, 2017 1:13pm
Brito

“Happy Holidays”!

Obama was so gutless he couldn’t say Merry Xmas and acknowledge that his country which he led is a Christian country and that the season was about the birth of Jesus not about a holiday.

What a piece of crap!!!!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11957962
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December 13, 2017 8:05am
- mandk
  
  No worries, Brito.
  
  Donald Trump’s card mentions the C word.
  
  God Bless you, Mr President!
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:09am
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    Which one was the regular church goer
    Obama or Trump ?
    
    The Trumps will say they are ‘between churches’
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:44am
    - Brito
      
      Of course they’re between Churches. They spread themselves around all the Christian denominations and shower the congregation with their warmth and smiles. Drop by the odd synagogue and generally move positively “between churches”.
      
      Soon much better than that Muslim who was there before.
      
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      December 13, 2017 8:56am
      - ztev
        
        I meant it like those who dont have a job, say they are ‘between jobs’
        
        Going to church at easter and Xmas isnt much. of course going to the golf course on the weekend is a must.
        Prayer breakfasts are an american thing, yet Donald spends his early mornings – before 9am- watching TV.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:34am
      - Brito
        
        That answer confirms the narrow space between your eyes.
        
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        December 13, 2017 10:29am
    - mandk
      
      And yet Obama couldn’t bring himself to utter the word Christmas at Christmas time.
      
      It’s not Eid or Diwali, or anything else.
      
      But, anyway, in this season of light and goodwill, allow me to wish you a happy Hannukah!
      
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      December 13, 2017 9:02am
      - Brito
        
        Thank you. It started yesterday and ends on the 20th.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:22am
      - flipper
        
        Nah, that zetev idiot would not know what day or time it is let alone what a Menorah is.
        
        Nor would it know anything about Hanukkah/Chanukah, apart from the standard(s’) greeting card denigrations.
        He knows nothing apart from the BS fed to him by the union flunkies occupying Fraser House.
        
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        December 13, 2017 11:42am
      - ztev
        
        http://thehill.com/homenews/media/362525-msnbc-trolls-trump-with-video-montage-of-obama-saying-merry-christmas
        
        So many fools trying to say this
        “Obama couldn’t bring himself to utter the word Christmas at Christmas time.”
        
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        December 13, 2017 12:27pm
      - realityczech
        
        Brittle, will you sacrifice a goat / first born, or something ?
        
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        December 13, 2017 12:51pm
      - Brito
        
        First born has already got to the altar so we’re back on the goat thing.
        
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        December 13, 2017 3:41pm
      - realityczech
        
        Don’t forget to cook it in its mothers milk.
        
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        December 13, 2017 6:24pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      Just wanted to check that you are sure you want to bring up the “church” that Obama attended – you know, the church of hating America ? I wonder why Obama refused to acknowledge or meet with his former minister once he became POTUS, couldn’t be anything to do with the hatred that was preached regularly could it ?
      
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      December 13, 2017 9:19am
      - ztev
        
        The church of hating america ?
        
        Do you mean the catholic church, they dont agree on lots and lots of Trump stuff.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:36am
      - RF
        
        Ah… the Kenyan. It will take a number of years for his time bombs that he planted … to explode.
        
        Did not trust the Moslem prick.
        
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        December 13, 2017 7:48pm
    - Fletch
      
      Melania is Catholic. Is a relatively well-known thing (I thought). At least, they mentioned it when she met the Pope etc, that she was the first Catholic in the WH since Jackie Kennedy.
      
      http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/25/politics/melania-trump-catholic/index.html
      
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      December 13, 2017 2:16pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Dried off your keyboard yet & I hope you didn’t have sugar in that coffee?
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:22am
  - Brito
    
    All good.
    
    I sit here poised and with purpose in my shallow life…troll hunting.
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:34am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Ztev (in one his versions) is about.
      
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      December 13, 2017 8:43am
      - Brito
        
        Noted!
        
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        December 13, 2017 8:56am
    - sam green
      
      Troll hunting? Don’t shoot yourself in the foot.
      
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      December 13, 2017 12:57pm
      - Brito
        
        Did you get first in class for anything this year Sammy?
        
        Awww, that’s sweet if you did but I think it’s really just about participation now isn’t it!
        
        Awww bless…
        
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        December 13, 2017 3:43pm
      - sam green
        
        Gotcha!
        
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        December 13, 2017 3:47pm
    - Brito
      
      Red Sammy thinks he’s made a point. That doesn’t happen until puberty Sammy and only when the adults tell you to do so.
      
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      December 13, 2017 4:55pm
      - sam green
        
        You’re still biting Brito you old trout.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:42pm
      - Brito
        
        That’s not a bite Sammy.
        
        Off to bed…and don’t look under it because the mean clown with the red balloon lives there…and so do I…
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:55pm
- KKKKatee
  
  I refuse to follow the American bullshit and say Happy Holiays FFS. It’s CHRISTMAS…..
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:29am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Oh why fight it . . . when you’ve got Simon Dallow reading recently imported and ‘on trend’ American nonsense like ‘doubling down’ – and Jessie Mulligan pronouncing ‘vase’ to rhyme with ‘face’.
    And then there’s Kanoa Lloyd . . . who makes Lyn of Tawa look like Queen Elizabeth II. Excruciating full nasal accent twang kiwis for a fast food swilling soundbite audience. Dumbed down to the nth degree schlock with cringefest ‘light relief’ schtick. Tragic.
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:42am
  - ztev
    
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    Too late, its turned up here
    
    One super market chain is saying “happy Fridgemas ”
    
    There you can rant over that
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:46am
    - Brito
      
      Good one ztev, you’re finally getting it.
      
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      December 13, 2017 8:58am
  - flipper
    
    So does Donald J T. And that is another reason why the self aggrandising MSM “love” him!
    
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    December 13, 2017 11:45am
  - sam green
    
    What do they say in Honkers?
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:43pm
- James Stephenson
  
  Why is it that those most likely to cheer on Trump’s Israel policy, are also most likely to decry the use of “happy holidays”, a term first used to include the Jewish festival of Hannukah in with Christmas?
  
  Seems a little contradictory to me.
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:03am
  - ztev
    
    Thats right.
    
    The greeting card company that came up with
    SEASONS GREETINGS a long time back surely had no problems.
    
    But the culture war keyboard warriors are on the march
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:44am
  - waikatosinger
    
    Whereas originally this language was used to be inclusive of both the Jewish and Christian celebrations, these days it is being used to avoid all mention of the Jewish and Christian celebrations lest some Muslim pretend to be offended. And Trump supporters are smart enough to notice this.
    
    Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy Hannukah.
    
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    December 13, 2017 10:14am
  - flipper
    
    It is Hanukkah Jim.
    Easily understood typo. 🙂
    
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    December 13, 2017 11:47am
- Disaster Area
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d7mTRaUmaE
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:25am
Monique Watson

It’s totally fucked up ztev. The ombudsman is a pussycat. Don’t expect transparency for the next five years.
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December 13, 2017 8:07am
oldpark

Just one more sleep for a re-run of the “Unforgiven “NZ style.
The wee funny peculiar Peters and his Party will maliciously vote against his loyal over 65s Gold Card holders and their small superannuation increase .
The ultimate betrayal for his poor old age pensioners who have counted on the money,will with the help of Peters be denied it.
Yes the same Peters did vote for the increase some time ago. That was then.
This time now that he has got himself a nice little earner of Circa $400,000 -$500,000 a year he has changed his mind and decided that he needs the big dollars alot more than his poor wee fixed income pensioners.
So Thursday this week Peters and his gang will commit the ultimate betrayal ,vetoing the small Superannuation Increases for his loyal dedicated supporters.
Maybe there is a special place in hell for such a backstabbing betrayal.
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December 13, 2017 8:12am
Inandout

The biggest flaw in the COL is the Green Party, and they are infighting. If the Greens implode, then so will the COL.

What a lovely thought.
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December 13, 2017 8:12am
- Chris R
  
  In and Out: Should we care? ( You’re absolutely right though.)
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:15am
- ztev
  
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  “the Greens implode”
  
  Surely you have forgotten about ACT imploding a while back.
  
  remember when Hide was sacked by his caucus
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4038451/Hide-Roy-can-t-get-act-together
  
  Roger Douglas was amoung the plotters and wreckers
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:49am
  - mandk
    
    You’re sounding like a pre-schooler, Ztev.
    
    Teacher: “Trevor, that was very naughty!”
    
    Ztev: “But William did it yesterday”
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:05am
    - sam green
      
      Hold that thought next time someone brings up Darren Hughes.
      
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      December 13, 2017 1:02pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Sam:
        
        You’ve just “brought up” Darren Hughes. Is there something you’d like to say about Darren, the naked young man who ran down a Wellington street in the middle of the night after spending time with Darren, or the subsequent police inquiry?
        
        Because, from where I’m sitting, that’s a pretty unique set of circumstances so the “he did it too!” line doesn’t really wash.
        
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        December 13, 2017 5:55pm
      - sam green
        
        No Nostradamus – thanks for asking.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:39pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Xmas present?
  
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  December 13, 2017 2:57pm
Chris R

I heard that our PM has been swiped in the laudable publication of “The Lancet” about her Marxist ravings. Rather than being embarrassed by this I suppose she’ll say she has been quoted “out of context” and that “we need a conversation about it.” Sorry Ms Ardern, YOU are a phoney PM out of context. You’re only there because you were plucked out of your ideological sewar by the vile Peters. The sooner this country is rid of you and your ilk the better.
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December 13, 2017 8:13am
- RF
  
  She is now called the poster child for Marxist ideas.
  
  FFS I don’t want this commie as our NZ PM.
  
  This female dog is dangerous.
  
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  December 13, 2017 12:02pm
- Fletch
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11958258
  
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  December 13, 2017 1:21pm
billmurray

Barnaby Joyce, Australia’s deputy PM has told Taxinda to stop meddling in the Manus Island illegal refugees problem.
Taxinda, most New Zealanders would support Barnaby Joyce.
Taxinda keep your big snooter out of this.
FFS simply stop it.
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December 13, 2017 8:15am
- holysheet
  
  Our Cindy is absoludly relentless in her positividy to go into bat for these scum. Never mind what the rest of us think.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:20am
  - RalphT
    
    We are not here to think but to do as we are told.
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:10am
- ztev
  
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  Its bi partisan thing
  
  The government stands by its original offer to take 150 asylum seekers from offshore Australian detention centres, says Prime Minister John Key.
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/307428/pm-stands-by-offer-to-take-150-asylum-seekers
  
  Jacinda is just following on from the great gesture made by John key and the national government
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:51am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Does Cindy not understand the word NO? How many times do Australia have to say it?
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:56am
  - Nukuleka
    
    A ‘gesture’ indeed, Trev.
    
    However, John Key didn’t go on and on and endlessly boringly on criticising the Australian government for not taking up the offer and moralising and berating and virtue-signalling and pulling faces and behaving like a spoilt and petulant adolescent when the offer was rejected.
    
    That’s the difference. Key is an adult, Ardern is a child.
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:13am
    - ztev
      
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      You have never worked in sales then….
      
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      December 13, 2017 9:48am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        What was she selling?
        
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        December 13, 2017 3:07pm
    - ztev
      
      Key had much earlier gave same offer to Gillard when she was PM.
      
      repeating himself ?
      
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      December 13, 2017 12:29pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        that would have been for the pick not for the dregs, why do you hate your country ‘men’ so much?
        
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        December 13, 2017 3:08pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Yes Nukuleka it was a sign of support for Australia’s stand on people smugglers. A genuine offer to give support by offering to assist by taking 150 of the border jumpers.
      
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      December 13, 2017 6:03pm
hullkiwi

Stuart Nash gets the prize for over keen numpty. Introduces a bill, sits down & can’t speak to it. This guy seems to be accident prone.
Anyhow, he’s introduced a bill about making multinationals pay their “fair share of tax”, the old problem of international transfer pricing. But I’ve yet to hear how he is going to achieve this. Does anyone know?
Secondly, his speech was read by Michael Woods, and had the remark about how good the CoL are for doing something, while the party opposite (National) did nothing for 9 years. What a load of disingenuous posturing. The truth is:
1. The issue is very complex & quick politic points scoring exercises will either do nothing & make a bad situation worse; and
2. This has been a problem since NZ started having international trade & resident multinationals. So, reality no previous government has dealt with it, because there is no unilateral quick easy fix without damaging the NZ economy.

This example just shows how clueless the CoL, Robbo & Nash really are!
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December 13, 2017 8:19am
- holysheet
  
  Not so. This bill was formulated by national. All liabour are doing is picking it up and getting it to select committee.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:22am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Thanks hs, but I still don’t see how a unilateral action by the NZ govt is going to do anything except piss off foreign companies/investors & add compliance costs to the IRD & the companies which will be borne by the taxpayers/consumers.
    
    I know there are solutions as I was the subsidiary financial controller of 2 US companies in Auckland & I know how transfer pricing regimes work. But unilateral action will not help.
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:38am
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      Your stupidity has been pointed out once, but it seems it needs to be done again.
      If we do what Australia is doing as well thats a strong step on the way.
      Pissing them off is the least of problems
      
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      December 13, 2017 8:54am
      - Ed Snack
        
        If you had a clue you would recognize that there already quite strong controls on transfer pricing (must be at “arms length”) and on thin capitalisation and other “tricks” used to transfer profits out of NZ’s jurisdiction.
        
        Any increases in taxation will come straight out of NZ’ers pockets, which is no doubt what the COL intend, but not something they actually want to advertise.
        
        It would pay you to learn a little about tax incidence.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:24am
    - flipper
      
      No, unilateral, politics-driven action does not work…… at least not in a democracy with a history of jurisprudence prevailing over politics.
      
      Jack Lewin and Geoff Datson tried to take on the oil cartel (Todd family (Europa), Shell, BP, Caltex and Mobil over the use of the Caymans, some 45 years ago) over transfer pricing and the use of tax havens. Yes, they won the battle against the Todds, (Maui was on the Horizon) but lost the war. I seem to recall that shortly thereafter Lewin was dumped as a potential Secretary of Industries and Commerce. Geoff Datson went into limbo.
      
      The fact is that the big domestic and multi-national companies employ the very best tax and business brains money buys. Political spin does not top their fees (nor rank highly on CVs) …… as the bureaucrat dominated EU is discovering. let us see how long the Google/Ireland issue is around.
      
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      December 13, 2017 12:13pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        Or Starbucks & their coffee, or Microsoft &, &, & the list is never ending, so unilateral fingers in the air by Australian & NZ are just that, fingers in the air….
        
        Fodder for the sheeple, eh ztev?
        
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        December 13, 2017 12:45pm
- KevOB
  
  The issue of multinationals, transfer pricing and fair shares has been a live one for over 50 years. No one Bill can fix that as it is dynamic and our international trade relations are all tied in too.
  
  IRD already has the matter well in hand. They are not political but ever vigilant to protect our tax base. Unfortunately you block one loophole and another legal issue appears.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:58am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Exactly.
    
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    December 13, 2017 12:41pm
Brito

I googled ztev as an acronym and it stands for zero tolerance emissions vehicle.

Care to explain how that works ztev?

Arguably we have zero tolerance for your posts which can be considered emissions and the blog is the vehicle which gives you a platform.

But such a long winded way of saying, ‘complete and utter cowpat with pissy opinions which are generally annoying and are only written to fill in the lonely hours of my day as I stagger towards the call of the beckoning abyss into which I will finally stumble and rid the world of my wailing and teeth gnashing’.
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December 13, 2017 8:23am
Left Right and Centre

Mayor Rahm Emanuel declares Chicago ‘Trump free’.
Me thinks it’s time for The Donald to hold his next stadium rally . . . I wonder where’s a good place to stage it ?
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December 13, 2017 8:24am
- holysheet
  
  When she goes on her next overseas jaunt, I declare NZ to be a Cindy free country. That will stop her from coming back.
  Lets do this.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:30am
  - calendar girl
    
    Coming back from her fatuous ‘photo shoot’ for “Vogue” magazine?
    
    (I am embarrassed beyond belief by that self-indulgence on the part of our Prime Minister.)
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:17am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Absolutely. She has raised a flag for just how vacuous she is by agreeing to do that. She has opened the gate to any and all commentary on her appearance (something that would not otherwise be worthy of comment) – given that she is trying to utilise them as a political tool.
      
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      December 13, 2017 11:09am
      - KevOB
        
        Yes, jacinda has now given us licence to comment on her appearance.
        
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        December 13, 2017 12:04pm
- jp_1983
  
  Ahh Chicago – where voter turnout is high in the cemetry
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:38am
- G152
  
  He should pull any Federal funding for Chicago.
  Mayor Rahm Emanuel will no doubt change his tune
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:49am
- ztev
  
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  Trump stadium rally in Chicago ?
  “Mar 11, 2016 – CHICAGO — With thousands of people already packed into stands and music blaring to warm up the crowd, Donald J. Trump’s campaign abruptly canceled his rally here on Friday night over security concerns as protesters clashed with his supporters inside an arena where he was to speak. ”
  
  Run Donny Run…
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:57am
  - KevOB
    
    Downticked as against US President and irrelevant.
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:04am
  - Ed Snack
    
    So you celebrate political extremism and the use of violence to suppress political expression ? I mean, I always imagined you would, but nice to have it confirmed. You do know there is a term for that – fascism; got enough brown shirts to wear for the coming years to show your dedication ?
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:27am
    - ztev
      
      Use of violence to suppress political expression ?
      Trump Tells Crowd to ‘Knock the Crap Out’ of Protesters, Offers to Pay Legal Fees
      
      Trump on #BlackLivesMatter Protester at Rally: ‘Maybe He Should Have Been Roughed Up’
      
      You should know more about what you are talking about Ed. Defending Trump is full of minefields
      
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      December 13, 2017 9:53am
  - Fletch
    
    Wasn’t that the event in which the DNC PAC sent people in to rile up the crowd and try to force a reaction?
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
    
    Yes it was.
    
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    December 13, 2017 2:19pm
- howitis
  
  Chicago under Rahm Emanuel
  
  https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2017/08/06/can-mayor-rahm-emanuel-manage-chicago/#1ba35deb632d
  Since 2011, more than 20,000 shootings and homicides have left the city scarred. City pensions are nearly insolvent. While property taxes spike higher, the city still borrows for basic operations. The city now taxes plastic bags and even Cubs, Sox and concert tickets. One million residents have left Chicago since 1950 and 20,000 fled in the last year alone.
  
  Chicago is in trouble. But the city’s woes aren’t stopping 10,600 government employees from bringing home six-figure incomes and higher. This includes 1,000 city employees who pocketed at least $40,000 each in overtime.
  
  Under Emanuel’s leadership, Chicago now has more six-figure public employees than the entire state government of Illinois. Search our OpenTheBooks interactive map by ZIP code for the city employees earning more than $100,000 and costing taxpayers $1.3 billion. Just click a pin and scroll down to see the results rendered in the chart beneath the map……
  
  Ergo, you can see where the model for Auckland City came from.
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:46am
KKKKatee

Can’t wait to hear what Robertson has in store in his Budget out today. What’s the bet he’ll have sweat dripping off his brow as he delivers the goods……
Hope he’s got a big micro fibre cloth in his pocket…
This is his big test and the Opposition are going to have a field day with this….
Waiting for the budget blowout….
Pity I’m going to be working all day.
I’ll catch up later on.
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December 13, 2017 8:28am
- waikatogirl
  
  You’re over excited KKKKatee, Robbo’s mini-budget (or screw the taxpayer) is tomorrow. ?
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:40am
  - KKKKatee
    
    You are correct. Thanks for that. ?
    
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    December 13, 2017 10:44am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Not a worry KKKKatee. I will be watching the weasel Robbo tomorrow to see what he includes in his budget. So sneaky it’s likely to have a tail on it. ?
      
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      December 13, 2017 11:38am
- Poppa
  
  It will have sticking plasters all over it.
  
  I suspect there will be few “errors” built in to make it look acceptable
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:05am
  - RF
    
    Dear wee Alf will sooth his feavered brow and scrub his back tonight.
    
    I have never worked out who is the husband / wife
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:52pm
starboard

…and will someone biff cindy a few carrots and a chichen leg for gods sake..she looks like a skeleton with some skin thrown on it.
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December 13, 2017 8:29am
- holysheet
  
  She’s a poster girl for child poverdy? It might be her example of an aspirational goal for all those school kids she seems totally at ease with.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:33am
  - Paulus
    
    They can get photo-shopped by Vague Magazine too if they vote Labour.
    
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    December 13, 2017 1:46pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Next campaign photo?
      
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      December 13, 2017 3:13pm
waikatogirl

The crime prevention group for dairy owners are meeting with the COL this week to demand help to stop youth committing aggravated robberies. One dairy owner has lost an eye and numerous others have been severely bashed for a few dollars and a bag of cigarettes. Dairy owners are threatening to arm themselves if nothing is done.

Time to step up to all those election promises COL. The rubber is hitting the road. Show us how you are going to solve the major problem of moronic entitled youth who believe they can take with aggression whatever they want whenever they want.
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December 13, 2017 8:30am
- cmm
  
  I’m sure if we relocate the Manus Islanders to South Auckland the dairy owners would stop complaing about the local yoofs.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:37am
Longknives

From the ‘You would think it was a freaking joke’ files-
A Fat Maori Woman who runs a City Mission is complaining about getting cans of vegetables donated

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/99767397/give-generously–but-please-no-tinned-tomatoes-or-chickpeas-say-charities

Take that you ignorant Rich Pricks! We don’t want your tinned fruit and vegetables…
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December 13, 2017 8:31am
- cmm
  
  And in the world of Housing NZ, they turn up their noses to houses honest working people would happily call home.
  
  Perhaps poverdy really is cured.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:34am
  - Brito
    
    You can be selective in your choice of poverdy when you live in a first world country. Give them a Zimbabwe grade poverdy diet for a week and they’ll start to look half human again.
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:37am
    - realityczech
      
      Brittle, how will you celebrate Jesus birthday, a big boil-up of pig trotters in milk ? ?
      
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      December 13, 2017 12:47pm
      - Brito
        
        I’m offended. How the hell could you even suggest that.
        
        Milk ruins pig trotters. Every kosher household knows that.
        
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        December 13, 2017 3:45pm
- jp_1983
  
  Give them KFC vouchers – that is what is needed
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:36am
- Rodney Randall
  
  How do you expect her to ‘vet’ the food parcels if they are in can form ffs? lol
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:58am
- KevOB
  
  The donations were to a women’s refuge where they didn’t have foods to use them with or know how to use them at all.
  
  The refuge could have just passed them over to another food bank.
  
  Is our education so poor people cannot use tinned tomatoes?
  Suggest: Toast with heated tinned tomatoes–season to taste. Add an egg for breakfast.
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:09am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    I am sure the lesbians at Women Refuge could have found some uses for them if they had thought about it enough.
    Throw them at men maybe or even a bit of hide the tomato amongst staff.
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:45am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Mash the chickpeas with tinned tomato, add salt and pepper (if they don’t literally have anything else to go with it) Nutritious and tasty if not a little boring. Needs must. ?
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:51am
    - Brito
      
      “Our” people don’t like this food.
      
      Well, as one of the ‘lost tribes of Israel’, the Maori diet, originally, consisted of hummus, lots of tomatoes, olive oil and all of that stuff which is good for your heart.
      
      All they need to do is whakapapapapapa back far enough and they’ll see that their ancestors indeed did eat canned chickpeas and tomatoes.
      
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      December 13, 2017 10:34am
      - realityczech
        
        Brittle, Our Maori like pig trotters. Do you like pig trotters Brittle ?
        
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        December 13, 2017 12:59pm
      - Brito
        
        I love pig trotters, especially on a pig.
        
        A lovely young lady who was collecting money for the SPCA stopped me in the street awhile back. She said “do you like animals?” and waved the collection bucket at me.
        
        I said, “Indeed I do, roasted, fried and baked preferably.”
        
        Think…horrified SJW…and you’d just about have her face.
        
        Laugh!!! Fuck me I chuckled for the rest of the day.
        
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        December 13, 2017 3:48pm
    - fernglas
      
      Do that without mashing the chickpeas, and throw in a teaspoon of curry powder. Protein, vitamins and minerals. I am a big supporter of Women’s Refuge, having seen at first hand the great things they do for vulnerable women and in particular their kids. But I do think that the way they came across is as thumbing their nose at the well meaning people who support them. Saying, basically, that we don’t want chickpeas, we want corned beef, is a cultural and racial slap in the face for the undoubtedly white urban women who gave them the stuff.
      
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      December 13, 2017 10:48am
    - Digmen1
      
      One billion Inidans cant be wrong!
      
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      December 13, 2017 1:28pm
- dime
  
  yeah i laughed.
  
  with her attitude im not surprised she got a smack at some point.
  
  did i say that out loud? :O
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:18am
- Rich Prick
  
  That just makes me want to donate a couple of pallets of chickpeas.
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:52am
  - Disillusioned_Voter
    
    Throw in a Pestle & Mortar and they could start a Hummus business, earn some cash and buy the food they want to eat…
    
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    December 13, 2017 10:48am
- flipper
  
  Easily fixed. Give nothing.
  But send a note saying “take it or leave it, dumbass.”
  
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  December 13, 2017 12:25pm
Rodney Randall

Where is Golriz Ghahrahman?

She has not featured in parliament sittings, and has vanished from Twitter and Facebook.

Is she still receiving her tax payer funded salary?
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December 13, 2017 8:57am
- Brito
  
  That little cow has been banished and will return after Christmas (when we’ve forgotten about it and we’re drying out after over doing it).
  
  But we will never forget dearie…
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:01am
  - RalphT
    
    We should enjoy the peace and quiet while it lasts.
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:12am
- cmm
  
  “Is she still receiving her tax payer funded salary?”
  
  Good question. Most jobs you don’t get paid if you don’t turn up.
  
  But given all the “stress” from the reaction (totally unfair abuse, she’ll claim), she’s probably on sick leave for the rest of the year.
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:56am
- Rachael Membery
  
  There is a ballot bill with her name on it, do they turn up to see if it is picked or not?
  
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  December 13, 2017 3:18pm
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
It needs to be said who out there actually cares about the ravings and rantings of a small cabal of whingeing alt right down tickers who have absolutely no relevance to the aspirations of ordinary mainstream thinking New Zealanders .

Maybe they could do something useful for change by donating a brick each , sending it to the White House to help prop up the President’s crumbling Mexican wall.
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December 13, 2017 9:09am
- Brito
  
  Have you ever heard the saying, “bricking the camel?”
  
  I’d gladly demonstrate on you what it means.
  
  And who are you to represent “ordinary mainstream thinking New Zealanders.”
  
  Define!!!!
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:25am
  - stephieboy
    
    Brito all other than alt right Trumpist supporters that infest these posts .
    
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    December 13, 2017 1:44pm
    - Brito
      
      That’s me to a T. Well spotted.
      
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      December 13, 2017 3:50pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  “It needs to be said who out there actually cares about the ravings and rantings of a small cabal of whingeing alt right down tickers”
  
  You enjoy the freedom of expression this blog affords you.
  have a great day Stef.
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:42am
- cmm
  
  “aspirations of ordinary mainstream thinking New Zealanders”
  
  Most New Zealanders want:
  * stable competent government
  * opportunities to work and make something of their lives (including material wealth).
  
  Most New Zealanders don’t want:
  * more tax
  * more poor pimping
  * a PM who is more interested in promoting her international profile
  * more crims imported from Manus Island.
  
  Unfortunately we’re getting exactly the opposite of what we want.
  
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  December 13, 2017 10:00am
  - stephieboy
    
    cmm, most New Zealanders do not want the lunatic fringe Trumpsitas like you .
    
    The 23/09 clearly points to that . Demonstrate otherwise ?
    
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    December 13, 2017 1:47pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Most NZers don’t want creeps leering at their daughters in Malls.
      
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      December 13, 2017 2:00pm
- realityczech
  
  stupidboy, why are the Spics trying to get into the USA if it is so awful under Trump ?
  
  Do you know the filthy black warlord deported more illegals than any other president in history ?
  
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  December 13, 2017 12:57pm
  - Brito
    
    Eeewww, you can’t say that!!! Offended!!! Need my safe space…I feel dirty…eeeww…white privilege…
    
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    December 13, 2017 3:52pm
    - realityczech
      
      Its like those Muslims who immigrate to the West and moan about Islamaphobia. Why did they not move to one of the many majority Islamic countries if the West is so awful ?
      
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      December 13, 2017 4:00pm
      - GoVege
        
        Because none of those Muslim countries hand out free money and houses for your 4 wives and umpteen kids.
        In fact, a Muslim man’s har….I mean… number of wives….is limited by his ability to support them all….I. e. By Himself. 🙂
        
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        December 13, 2017 4:45pm
      - Brito
        
        Exactly!!!! And if you moan and bitch and behave in those countries the way these buggers do in the West, they’d take them to ‘Chop Square’ and give them a haircut.
        
        One day the West will say, ‘that’s enough I think we’ll have another wee Crusade’ or there will be a series of bright flashes in a number of those countries. Either way it’s coming.
        
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        December 13, 2017 5:01pm
      - realityczech
        
        Brittle, I can imagine you tugging at your side locks with excitement over nuking goyim, but the reality is a crusade is underway against all people out of favour with Jews. Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan…. none of which has attacked any Western country.
        
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        December 13, 2017 5:51pm
      - Brito
        
        You forgot Czech Republic.
        
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        December 13, 2017 8:21pm
      - realityczech
        
        No that was Jewish bolsheviks Brittle. You need to study your whakapapa better. What would your Rabbi think !
        
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        December 13, 2017 8:24pm
      - Brito
        
        Bolshevik smolshevik…we did’t organise the invasion. Your lot invited us in.
        
        What can a poor mensch do…we organise the finances, we helped hold the gold…everyone forgets so quickly already…yeeesh!!!
        
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        December 13, 2017 10:02pm
Nukuleka

‘twho’, indeed stiffyboy, ‘twit, twho’…
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December 13, 2017 9:18am
Manolo

Does it mean socialism is back?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/97662167/new-zealand-may-be-about-to-face-the-biggest-shift-in-economic-gears-since-1984

New Zealand may be about to see the biggest change of economic direction since the reforms that started 33 years back in 1984.

The signals from incoming Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and her deputy Winston Peters were immediate.
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December 13, 2017 9:30am
- dime
  
  gotta feel for people on low or fixed incomes.
  
  they are going to take an almighty hit with this govt.
  
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  December 13, 2017 10:18am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, ” maybe ” is the key and operative word . I suspect another sore loser on the 23rd and subsequently .
  
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  December 13, 2017 1:42pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    No stephieboy,
    ” maybe ” is the key and operative word
    
    Read carefully the headline that Manolo linked to:
    
    “New Zealand may be about to…..”
    
    You do know the difference between may be and maybe, don’t you?
    
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    December 13, 2017 3:20pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Maggy:
      
      You do know the difference between may be and maybe, don’t you?
      
      Stephieboy’s answer: “Yes, there’s a space between the words in one, but not the other”. Boom sha lock lock boom!
      
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      December 13, 2017 6:03pm
Manolo

Cheeky bastards:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/12/port-authority-bombing-suspects-family-face-backlash-after-chastising-authorities.html

Family members of the failed New York City terror bomber were blasted on social media Tuesday after they accused police of heavy-handed tactics — a charge that came mere hours after their son attempted to massacre civilians in a crowded subway passageway.

“Let me get this correct, your son walks in a public place wearing a bomb and your outrage at the behavior of the police…too bad get over it!!!” the Sergeant’s Benevolent Association tweeted, representing just a small sample of the public outcry directed at the family of Akayed Ullah.
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December 13, 2017 9:37am
- Rachael Membery
  
  They should be sent back to where they came from, they should be condemning their son and his actions.
  
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  December 13, 2017 3:24pm
Surely Knott

It’s the begging season and Council doesn’t want to miss out. . After an impressive campaign with the latest end of the planet green doom story – Kauri Dieback. Never mind that the Kauri in my bloody backyard must not have got the message as the little blighters are self seeding like mad. But like all good environmental money transfer schemes (climate change – I’m looking at you) . The council can fix this problem (yeah no they really can’t) with more of your money. They now wants you to chose between $28 and $40 per household targeted rate to help the trees. Maybe It would be easier to believe the science if it wasn’t always tied to politics, power and them taking your money. I’ll be voting no to this targetted rate. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=11957635&ref=twitter
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December 13, 2017 9:46am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I read the link and can’t see any means/method that the ACC is going to use to control the spread of kauri dieback.
  Hold onto your money until they produce a (magical) cure.
  
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  December 13, 2017 4:02pm
MrTips

Euthanasia vote tonight. Labour have “cleared” their work to allow the spotlight to be taken by Seymour’s bill.

Nothing like using emotive politics to cover up your cock-ups eh Robbo?
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December 13, 2017 10:04am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Today is a Members’ Day MrTips. That’s why Seymour’s Bill will be debated. It’s nothing to do with Labour’s shambolic management of the Order Paper.
  
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  December 13, 2017 10:20am
Hugh Pavletich

Auckland has led the decline in house sales with the worst November since 2010 | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/91364/auckland-has-led-decline-house-sales-worst-november-2010

The number of homes sold throughout the country slumped to its lowest level for the month of November since 2011 last month, according to the latest figures from the Real Estate Institute of New Zealand.

The REINZ recorded 6893 residential property sales last month, down 9.2% compared to the 7593 properties sold in November last year.

In Auckland 1910 homes were sold in November, down 16.7% compared to November last year and the lowest number of homes sold in the region in the month of November since 2010. … read more via hyperlink above …
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December 13, 2017 10:06am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Auckland house sales slump to 2010 lows – MacroBusiness Australia
  
  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/12/auckland-house-sales-slump-2010-lows/
  
  By Leith van Onselen
  
  The REINZ has released its house price data for November, which revealed a 0.2% seasonally adjusted monthly rise in the national median house price, with prices up 4.0% year-on-year: … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  December 13, 2017 1:05pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Housing and Urban Development Minister expects the ban to be passed into law early next year; will ensure house prices are set by NZ-based buyers, not people from overseas | interest.co.nz
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/91375/housing-and-urban-development-minister-expects-ban-be-passed-law-early-next-year-will
    
    … concluding …
    
    … Twyford says the legislative changes demonstrate the Government’s determination to make it easier for New Zealanders to buy their first home.
    
    “We expect the law to be passed early next year fulfilling a key pledge in our 100 Day Plan. The previous National government said it couldn’t be done without breaching trade agreements. They just didn’t try and in doing so, they put foreign buyers ahead of New Zealanders.
    
    “This Government prioritises home ownership and housing affordability for all New Zealanders. This Bill will ensure that house prices are set by New Zealand-based buyers, not international buyers,” Twyford says. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    December 13, 2017 5:13pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Law to ban foreign home buyers to be introduced in Parliament, passed in new year | Stuff.co.nz
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/99827575/law-to-ban-foreign-home-buyers-to-be-introduced-in-parliament-passed-in-new-year
      
      Legislation to ban foreigners from buying existing homes will be introduced tomorrow – NZ Herald
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11958974
      
      Twyford extends olive branch to Singapore in house-buying ban | The National Business Review
      
      https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/twyford-extends-olive-branch-singapore-house-buying-ban-jw-211138
      
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      December 13, 2017 5:45pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Public sector boss warns escalating CEO pay is ‘not sustainable’ | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/99812129/public-sector-boss-warns-escalating-ceo-pay-is-not-sustainable
        
        The Government is considering law changes to control top public sector pay, after it emerged another major organisation had ignored advice and hiked its chief executive’s pay.
        
        State Services Commissioner Peter Hughes revealed the Accident Compensation Corporation board, headed by Dame Paula Rebstock, had gone against his advice when it awarded chief executive Scott Pickering a $20,000 pay increase, almost three times what was recommended.
        
        Pickering, who now earns around $830,000-$840,000, was given a $50,000 pay – rise in 2016. … read more via hyperlink above …
        .
        .
        … Entities are rarely managed in the public sector … at both central and local level.
        
        They are just loosely administered ‘after a fashion’ … where the Indians pretty much just run things to suit themselves.
        
        Diffuse responsibility is the name of the game.
        
        Personal responsibility is a foreign concept to them. That’s just for grown – ups in the private sector.
        
        The infantile ‘British disease’ is still alive and well in New Zealand …
        
        Public sector inertia at a council office where employees take six-month sickies | Daily Mail Online
        
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289702/Public-sector-inertia-council-office-employees-month-sickies.html
        
        … essential viewing … note in particular the Property Managers ‘livid’ comments at the end …
        
        Inquiry. The Great British Housing Disaster (Adam Curtis, 1984) – YouTube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5VorymiL4
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        .
        The housing affordability crisis … at its core … is a local government costs out of control problem … where they lose the capacity to meet infrastructure responsibilities to their communities … and cope with normal growth.
        
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        December 13, 2017 7:31pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … CONTINUED …
        
        … This explains too … why polling has found over recent years growing public dissatisfaction with local government performance … report from mid – 2015 … which was never followed up on …
        
        Poll shows local government has a reputation problem | The National Business Review
        
        https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/poll-shows-local-government-has-reputation-problem-b-172979
        
        Local Government New Zealand failed to release the results of polling in subsequent years.
        
        Why ?
        
        This in large measure explains why the (Anti) Local Government Commissions proposals in subsequent years, to amalgamate the smaller local authorities in the Wellington, Hawkes Bay and Northland region failed … wisely rejected by local voters.
        
        The whole lot of them !
        
        The wider New Zealand public is well aware of the amalgamated disasters of Auckland and Christchurch … ungovernable bureaucratic basket cases.
        
        It was Chief Executives pay that triggered the 4,500 Christchurch Peoples Protest February 2012 …
        
        Christchurch: The Way Forward | Scoop News
        
        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1206/S00251/christchurch-the-way-forward.htm
        
        Sensible politicians … across the political spectrum … understand the critical importance of local control.
        
        At the same time as the massive Peoples Protest, a former Labour Christchurch Central MP Brendon Burns had this to say …
        
        Better communication can shine a light in the darkness | Stuff.co.nz
        
        http://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/perspective/6380541/Better-communication-can-shine-a-light-in-the-darkness
        
        … extract …
        
        ‘ … For this city to best recover from its seismic nightmare, the process of decision- making needs to be inverted to truly empower communities. Such a radical change is very difficult to accept for anyone – of any political persuasion – who happens to be in power.
        
        To date, the required response is tokenistic. A top-down command and control system may be appropriate in the days after a disaster but not in a recovery which will take years. Among the ultimate victims will be those who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk when it comes to true community engagement. Just look at the Christchurch City Council….’
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        There are two types of local government in this world … the small and the bad.
        
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      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        State Services Commission singles out the Super Fund, ACC and Telarc for ignoring its advice on CEO pay rises | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/business/91377/state-services-commission-singles-out-super-fund-acc-and-telarc-ignoring-its-advice
        
        The Government is considering legislation changes to curb some sky-rocketing state sector chief executive salaries.
        
        The Minister of State Services Chris Hipkins is looking into how the Crown Entities Act could be changed to “put the brakes on” escalating salaries.
        
        His move follows a State Services Commission report disclosing the pay (including bonuses) state sector CEOs received in the 2016/17 financial year. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:44pm
Jack5

Oh dear!

A plaque has been officially opened (perhaps “dedicated” is a more appropriate description) at Manapouri commemorating two “Polish” botanists, on James Cook’s second voyage, on the Resolution, that touched New Zealand. The father-and-son botanists did interesting pioneer work at Dusky Sound more than 200 years ago.

Attending the function were the Southland Mayor, Gary Tong, and the Polish Ambassador, Zbigniew Gniatkowski, and they were photographed for the Southland Times. The plaque is part of a project called “Polish trails” commemorating Polish links with New Zealand.

But the question is, were the two famous botanists, Johann Reinhold Forster and his son, Georg, Polish?

Forster senior was a Calvinist pastor in what was then called Dirschau, a Prussian town on the Vistula River that ethnically remained overwhelmingly German until the 20th Century wars. Now called Tczew and firmly in Poland, the Germans have gone from the town of 60,000 or 70,000. Hundreds of thousands of Germans died in the ethnic expulsion from such Polish-German borderlands at the end of World War 2.

Dirschau-now-Tczew was where World War 2 began, according to Wikipedia. German bombers at 4.34 am on 1 September, 1939 attacked Polish installations to prevent the bridge from being blown up.

After the Cook voyage, Johann Forster was appointed a professor at the University of Halle, where he remained until his death. The university continues as the Martin Luther University of Halle-Wittenberg, known as MLU, is a public, research-oriented university in the German cities of Halle and Wittenberg. The son, Georg, wrote a famous account of the work on the Resolution voyage, and was admitted to the Royal Society at age 22.

Interestingly, the Forsters’ surname came from a Scottish forebearer who migrated to what was then Prussia.

With changing borders, it’s easy to see confusion about who was a Pole-German-Prussian, but it will be interesting if the NZ pioneer soldier Gustavus von Tempsky, a Prussian, is claimed as a Pole, as he was labelled in New Zealand during World War 2. Von Tempsky was born at Konigsberg, East Prussia (as was the great philospher, Kant, who, like the Forsters, was partly of Scottish descent.) The Red Army was extremely brutal in its ethnic cleansing of East Prussia (to terrorise the German people as it advanced). So much so that the population of this Baltic enclave, renamed Kaliningrad, is now almost entirely Russian.
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December 13, 2017 10:16am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Well if the Poles want to claim them, then so be it.
  
  As incredible polymaths, the 2 of them really transcend national boundaries and belong to all who have benefited from the Enlightenment.
  
  The Poles may want to forget Georg’s private views on his fellow countrymen.
  
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  December 13, 2017 4:09pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Jack,
  
  But the question is, were the two famous botanists, Johann Reinhold Forster and his son, Georg, Polish?
  
  Forster senior was a Calvinist pastor in what was then called Dirschau, a Prussian town on the Vistula River that ethnically remained overwhelmingly German until the 20th Century wars.
  
  Well, James Cook’s 2nd voyage was from 1772 to 1775,
  
  and Tczew (Dirschau) was Polish before 1772 and had been so since 1466,
  
  and Poland’s partitions between the three surrounding empires started in 1772, when Tczew was annexed by the Kingdom of Prussia,
  
  and finally, change of ownership to the German Empire occurred after the defeat of Napolean and long after Cook’s 2nd voyage.
  
  Now called Tczew and firmly in Poland, the Germans have gone from the town of 60,000 or 70,000. Hundreds of thousands of Germans died in the ethnic expulsion from such Polish-German borderlands at the end of World War 2.
  
  Bit of a strange thing to pop in. You know that Poland was occupied by the Soviets when that expulsion happened, don’t you? The Soviets were into mass expulsions of people. My father’s family were caught up in one where they were shipped off to Siberia earlier in the war.
  
  So back to your original question as to whether or not “the two famous botanists, Johann Reinhold Forster and his son, Georg, Polish?” Answer: more than likely.
  
  Especially if you consider how much time it took to travel in those days. Around the time the Partitions of Poland first started in 1772, Johann & Georg would have had to have already left beforehand in order to be on Cook’s ship the same year.
  
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  December 13, 2017 5:03pm
  - Jack5
    
    Lucia, Forster senior was a Calvinist pastor in the border lands between Protestant Prussia and Catholic Poland. Father and son had German Christian names. Father, after the Cook voyage, spent the bulk of his life as a professor at a German university.
    
    Dirschau/Tcsew was in a part of Pomerania that swung from the control of the Teutonic knights, to and from Poland, then Sweden, then Prussia. then Poland. Sweden controlled a slice of Pomerania – on the coast of present Germany and Poland – from 1630 to 1815.
    
    The Forsters seem to have been ethnic Germans in a city whose nationality was fairly fluid.
    
    Maggy is right – the Forsters were too distinguished to be defined by nationality.
    
    But any assertion that Gustavus von Tempsky was Polish will likely be more controversial.
    
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    December 13, 2017 6:09pm
Keeping Stock

Jacinda Ardern must be lamenting having been saddled with Willie Jackson after the deal Jackson cut with Andrew Little.

Jackson is simply not up to the job, and will be a major target for the opposition now after yesterday’s smarmy performance

https://youtu.be/-UntVwp1QQw
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December 13, 2017 10:18am
- dime
  
  i watched and LOL’d
  
  i bet that shit works onthe marae, just scream slogans and have a bunch of losers loudly agree with you to shut down debate.
  
  he is a fucking moron.
  
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  December 13, 2017 10:21am
  - lifesgood
    
    What a disgrace to our country. How utterly embarrassing. A lazy dim wit who hasn’t got a clue, hasn’t read his briefings and thinks because he’s maori he’s special. He’s special alright but not in the way he thinks.
    
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    December 13, 2017 12:41pm
    - dime
      
      i think hes half white too
      
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      December 13, 2017 1:14pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Such conflictions.
        
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        December 13, 2017 3:38pm
  - Paulus
    
    Willie Jackson is a Labour MP of sorts – so what is new !
    He was not pissed in Parliament yesterday just emotionally stressed.
    
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    December 13, 2017 1:51pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  He’s there to tick the diversity box and bring in Maori votes and he has done that. Nobody forced Jacinda to give him a real portfolio where he can be exposed like this.
  
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  December 13, 2017 10:45am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Willy is a good union man.
    
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    December 13, 2017 1:21pm
    - Jack5
      
      Watching that, it’s a surprise that Willie was able to con Radio NZ into the Maorification deal with his independent radio network.
      
      Maybe the Radio NZ mob thought like many of us posting in this thread: “Jackson’s a nitwit, this will be a walk over”.
      
      Willie got the last laugh there.
      
      Could it be that Willie projects himself as a nitwit as a cunning ploy?
      
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      December 13, 2017 1:43pm
- cmm
  
  Willie Jackson kept banging on about the Maori Nation and the Pacifica Nation.
  
  Two questions:
  1) If they are separate nations then wtf are we doing having them put their noses in our pockets?
  1.1) Maybe we allow the Maori Nation to do this due to ToW screw-over, but ToW makes no obligations to the Pacifica Nation. Why are Labour handing over our tax money to them?
  
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  December 13, 2017 11:07am
  - GoVege
    
    I don’t think many Pacifica persons will be impressed by this “Pacific nation” rhetoric. …all they want are fair and decent wages.
    Maori are supposed to be part of the first world nation of New Zealand.
    That’s how come they have an infinitely better standard of living than any other Polynesian country.
    Not to mention access to generous benefits that do not exist in the Pacific Islands.
    
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    December 13, 2017 6:15pm
In Vino Veritas

Hipkins conflates the reporting of student results with falling literacy rates. Is this guy retarded? How can a reporting regime impact on literacy rates? Surely teachers cause literacy rates to fall, not the population of data in a report!
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December 13, 2017 10:38am
- mandk
  
  Yes, he is clearly dim-witted.
  
  But, to be fair to him, he is trying to rationalise a move that is deeply unpopular.
  
  He who pays the piper calls the tune.
  
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  December 13, 2017 10:45am
- cmm
  
  This policy goes along with more money for staff….
  
  So more money with less accountability, the recipe for a disaster.
  
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  December 13, 2017 10:55am
- KevOB
  
  By ignorance unbounded Hipkins confounded.
  
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  December 13, 2017 12:12pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  No time for teaching apparently with all of the testing?
  
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  December 13, 2017 3:40pm
Stars And Stripes

Just been down the CBD and the following sign in a shop window caught my eye:
“Mature lady wanted to help with make up applications. Apply within”.

Two questions I have:
1.Where are they intending you to apply the makeup exactly?.
2.Is the applicant required to be older or just have large breasts?.
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December 13, 2017 10:42am
- Inandout
  
  ‘Mature’ in a greengrocer’s shop would relate to products in the quick sale bin.
  
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  December 13, 2017 10:59am
- Brito
  
  Didn’t think you could place a sexist advert like this.
  
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  December 13, 2017 11:23am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    As long as you are not specifically asking for a white heterosexual, non vegan, non gluten free Christian male it is fine.
    
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    December 13, 2017 11:56am
    - Brito
      
      Oh yeah, right! Forgot those points. It’s ok then.
      
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      December 13, 2017 12:47pm
- ztev
  
  The customers would crones with money- the usual national party supporters
  
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  December 13, 2017 12:11pm
  - softail 1450
    
    ztrev ,sounds like the ideal job for your daughter megan woods .
    man can she slap on the make up ,and the big breasts are covered with that rotund fool.
    
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    December 13, 2017 12:53pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  Can you name the shop please? They are breaking the law.
  
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  December 13, 2017 5:03pm
starboard

Make up applications? Maybe she works for the liarbor party.
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December 13, 2017 11:15am
- RalphT
  
  I think you are confusing a beautician with a mortician.
  
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  December 13, 2017 11:46am
Manolo

The snowflakes are outraged:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/12/trump-s-gillibrand-tweet-quickly-labeled-sexist-by-mainstream-media.html

President Trump sent shock waves through the mainstream media on Tuesday by attacking Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand with a cryptic tweet that was open to interpretation, although many people concluded Trump was making a sexual double entendre.
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December 13, 2017 11:35am
- Kimbo
  
  They are trying to get a double entendre out of “begged”?! I know TDS keeps both the MSM and the Democrats in business, but that is ridiculous.
  
  Now, this is what a political stoush used to mean in the USA, long before something as gay as Twitter:
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr%E2%80%93Hamilton_duel
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_of_Charles_Sumner
  
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  December 13, 2017 11:43am
- fernglas
  
  I thought Fox was mainstream media too.
  I think, Kimbo, that the problem was with Trump saying she would “do anything” for donations, not that she begged. Trump has tweeted a number of times about other politicians begging him for things, and they have been male, and no-one has suggested anything sexual about those tweets.
  
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  December 13, 2017 12:45pm
lifesgood

So labour are going to do away with school voluntary donations and give schools $150 for every child enrolled. God help us! Where’s that money coming from? Schools will be delighted given that a huge percentage of parents pay zero by way of donations. and it is already the conscientious hard working tax paying parents who do. I guess they’ll just have to be taxed more.
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December 13, 2017 12:45pm
- Piniwi
  
  Sad lifesgood as it will only serve to remove so much school/community connection that has been so valuable over the years. For so many Kiwi parents support every school fund raising event if not already helping run it. It is easy money when so many extended families also make a point of attending as well as interested public.
  
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  December 13, 2017 6:49pm
Brito

This is for the snowflakes, SJW, cry babies.

Take a moment to ponder.

For the rest of you…wallow just a little bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUEWcH-6x4g
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December 13, 2017 12:46pm
Poppa

I wonder what kind of shambles the ministers will dish up during question time today?

The way they are going nothing would be a surprise, all they have done is swap the players each day as they scramble from one stuff up to the next.

They are a complete embarrassment to this fine country
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December 13, 2017 1:19pm
Manolo

Aren’t we all looking forward to tomorrow’s figures to be released by the Minister of Finance, the competent and capable Grant Robertson, Nobel Prize of Economics?
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December 13, 2017 1:22pm
- Poppa
  
  Yep that will be the highlight of the year
  
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  December 13, 2017 1:44pm
Peter

“Auckland-based refuge charity The Aunties has issued an outright ban on tinned tomatoes, saying they are useless for the women and children it supports. They don’t have the ingredients to go with the food in the first place…”Open up a pantry in a refuge or emergency house and there’s always bloody tinned tomatoes because nobody eats the things,” spokeswoman Jackie Clark said.”

Ohhh….kay.

Perhaps the “starving” could – you know – learn how to cook.

But why bother?

They are treated like dependent infants, and – surprise surprise – that is how they act.

How about giving them nothing BUT tinned tomatoes and a recipe and tell them that’s what they’ll get when they return, too.

Either they are hungry or they aren’t.
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December 13, 2017 1:26pm
- Jack5
  
  As Marie Antoinette is claimed to have said when told peasants were starving: “let them eat cake”.
  
  Or was it brioche..
  
  That ended badly.
  
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  December 13, 2017 1:37pm
  - Peter
    
    The point is many of the “horizontally challenged” ‘who claim to be starving aint starving. I’ve yet to see a starving person in New Zealand, but I regularly see a tide of porkers.
    
    I eat tinned tomatoes regularly. Requires a few seconds of thought and planning.
    
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    December 13, 2017 2:36pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Fallacy, the comment pre-dated Marie Antoinette and if my studies were correct, was uttered by another.
    http://www.history.com/news/ask-history/did-marie-antoinette-really-say-let-them-eat-cake
    
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    December 13, 2017 3:49pm
- Inandout
  
  ‘Beggars can’t be choosers’ is a saying that seems to have disappeared from our vocabulary. What these unhealthy troughs don’t realise is that tomatoes have health benefits.
  
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  December 13, 2017 2:55pm
- GoVege
  
  I do feel for these poor abused refuge residents.
  Back when there were no refuges and women and kids stayed with the Sallie’s, mums didn’t have to do their own cooking.
  The SA house in Herne Bay provided 3 beautiful meals a day, made by two elderly ladies.
  Surely the Refuges could put on a few meals for their depressed and traumatized clients??
  Or would that be too much like work?
  
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  December 13, 2017 6:05pm
  - realityczech
    
    How about they pull their heads in and go home so they can cook their man a leg of lamb ?
    
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    December 13, 2017 6:09pm
    - GoVege
      
      Good idea RC, but they’d get an ear bashing from the ladies of the Collective. 🙂
      
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      December 13, 2017 9:09pm
      - realityczech
        
        Those places are full of predatory bull dykes.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:17pm
Digmen1

I had to laugh at Anika Moa last night on DNA detectives.
She once got annoyed at her teacher who said there were no full blooded Maori in NZ. Anika is so proud of her Maori heritage that’s all she thinks about.
Then on the show we found out that her “Maori” father was descended from a white American whaler who came here and married a local Maori lady.
Making Anika at most 25% Maori and probably much less.
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December 13, 2017 1:37pm
- Jack5
  
  Anika Moa’s wife is a white TV journalist, but they won’t be contributing to continuing “lightening up” of Maori.
  
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  December 13, 2017 1:49pm
  - Inandout
    
    Well I didn’t know she smelled the carpet pile. And she is close to John Key.
    
    https://static2.stuff.co.nz/1287706635/105/4264105.jpg
    
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    December 13, 2017 2:59pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Something tells me, Jack, that something like the word “threesome” was lodged in your teeming brain as you composed that little contribution of yours.
    
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    December 13, 2017 3:04pm
All_on_Red

PERVWATCH
A division of Groperwatch
Today we look at one of Kiwiblogs Biggest Creeps.
Yes, it’s STEPHIEBOY
This sleezy creep has had Strikes for linking to porn sites on KB.
Who has such a lack of judgement.
Yes, it’s STEPHIEBOY.
An admitted PERV who said this:
Are these lies StephieCreep?

‘19,565 COMMENTS
stephieboy
Yesterday I was at the Robert Harris cafe St Lukes Megacentre , Mt Albert enjoying a cappuccino. I noticed next door three Muslim women enjoying their lattes with their children . Two of these honeypots .were wearing their Nijabs with stylish jeans and blouses . The other in more typical kiwi informal attire?
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‘Honeypots’!!!
And this;
Jack 5, recently i was at St Luke’s shopping mall and I saw a Muslim lady dressed in traditional apparel accompanied by her two beautiful young daughters dressed in modern western tight jeans and blouses , revealing lovely supple body proportions , including small but ample breasts .
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Wow, just wow.
PERVWATCH is brought to you as a public service to out the creeps amongst us.
Stephieboy is PERV #1
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December 13, 2017 1:57pm
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red , my information is that you were actually thumbs up .
  
  True ?
  
  I would you suggest go and talk to your child psychiatrist about you continual regressive snowballing slide into infantilism .
  
  I understand you failed the practical on crash bricklaying course . The wall collapsed nearly killing your tutor . Instead you are now opting for donate and courier a brick to the White House for the bemused President and First Lady .
  
  LOL !
  
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  December 13, 2017 2:03pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    You seem quite bitter these days.
    Wassa matta, wifey onto your ‘habits’ and won’t let you out alone?
    LOL!!!!
    Get some help creep.
    
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    December 13, 2017 2:08pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on WED,
      
      ZZZZZZZZZZZZ….. ”
      
      End of story boorish bore !
      
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      December 13, 2017 2:59pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Here you go mate
        http://www.stopitnow.org/help-guidance/online-help-center/worried-about-an-adults-behavior
        
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        December 13, 2017 3:38pm
- Morrissey
  
  Welcome aboard, All_on_Red. We’re always on the lookout for willing young interns, and you fit the bill nicely. (“interns”…”bill”… you get what we’re driving at???!!!!??)
  
  But seriously, old chap, we’re happy to have you!
  
  Sincerely,
  
  The crew at Daisycutter Sports Inc.
  
  Morrissey Breen (researcher)
  Serena Sopwith-Fotherington (“intern”)
  Edwin Pudge (copyboy)
  Jack A. Napes (Editor in Chief)
  
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  December 13, 2017 3:11pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Morrissey:
    
    We’re always on the lookout for willing young interns
    …
    Serena Sopwith-Fotherington (“intern”)
    
    Sheesh – why put “intern” in quotes – you make it sound like you’re running a brothel!
    
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    December 13, 2017 6:09pm
- GoVege
  
  Not again……!!
  
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  December 13, 2017 5:32pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Rather unsubtle and salacious rumours about ‘special relationships’ between senior and incoming Green party MPs over at Whale Oil. https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/nastiness-inside-green-ranks-exposed-leaks/

Would be rather amusing to see such skulduggery come to light
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December 13, 2017 1:59pm
- Morrissey
  
  Whatever those relationships in the Green Party are like, we can be sure of this fact: they will never be as demeaning or as pathetic as the master-servant relationship between Cameron Whalefat and his slave Jordan Williams.
  
  https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-12092013/#comment-695426
  
  https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17042013/#comment-620413
  
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  December 13, 2017 3:24pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Gee you are on the defensive really quickly.
    
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    December 13, 2017 7:18pm
Brito

Watching Question Time.

I think Robbo is eating Cindy’s cakes. He seems to be swelling and she seems to be vanishing.

Interesting question time. I haven’t heard one question answered yet. Lots of ‘working on that’ and ‘wait for the budget’.

And who is that man wearing a dress sitting behind Cindy?

And there is a bullfrog sitting behind Hipkins…with a tattoo…
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December 13, 2017 2:22pm
- softail 1450
  
  Brito ,that’s kiri allan ,the latest “tongue in groove”to join the labour gaggle of gays.
  
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  December 13, 2017 2:33pm
  - Brito
    
    Ugggg
    
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    December 13, 2017 2:37pm
  - Piniwi
    
    softail1450 that’s a good one tongue n groove. Lol
    
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    December 13, 2017 6:56pm
Morrissey

When Obama was farcically awarded a Nobel
Peace Prize, we never heard the end of it.

https://www.rt.com/uk/412667-corbyn-chomsky-peace-prize-geneva/
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December 13, 2017 2:47pm
- Morrissey
  
  Two Obama supporters have quickly registered with us. (It’s exactly 3:00 p.m.)
  
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  December 13, 2017 3:00pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Have to agree the Nobel Peace prize is a sick joke. This McBride prize is equally stupid. How many wars or terrorist attacks did Corbyn and Chomsky stop.
    
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    December 13, 2017 3:23pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Corbyn has made the extraordinarily insane—well, insane to the mind of would-be war heroes like Hillary Benn—statement that he would never consider the mass murder of millions of human beings. Surely in a world seemingly run by violent imbeciles, that statement alone makes him a moral exemplar.
      
      Chomsky? The Dalai Lama? Nelson Mandela? Mother Theresa? Yes, they’re hopeless aren’t they.
      
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      December 13, 2017 3:50pm
      - realityczech
        
        Mandela a convicted terrorist who used bombs to target civilians and burned black political opponents to death with a burning tyre around their necks.
        
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        December 13, 2017 5:57pm
      - Morrissey
        
        realityczech you’re a fool and a liar.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:48pm
      - realityczech
        
        Its a fact Morris Dancer. The filthy animal was not trying to free blacks from apartheid , he was trying to enslave them under communism. Most of his victims were blacks.
        
        Under the rule of that brutal black beast SA became the murder, rape and robbery capital of the world. He oversaw a genocide of whites.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:52pm
      - Morrissey
        
        You’re either completely ignorant or simply a dedicated liar. Either way, you wouldn’t survive in a sensible, normal environment.
        
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        December 13, 2017 10:00pm
      - realityczech
        
        You can find the charging documents online. You have just shown yourself as liar.
        
        https://www.aluka.org/struggles/collection/RIVON
        
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        December 13, 2017 10:11pm
      - realityczech
        
        Runs in the family
        
        “Grandson of Nelson Mandela appears in court charged with raping 15-year-old girl in a restaurant”
        
        http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/grandson-nelson-mandela-appears-court-6293386
        
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        December 13, 2017 10:12pm
      - realityczech
        
        Original Mandela Autobiography Advocates Violence, Communism
        
        Before being sanitized by a “ghostwriter” who now works in the Obama administration, the recently released original manuscript of South African revolutionary Nelson Mandela’s autobiography exposed the widely celebrated figure as a violent enemy of “democracy.” The first Long Walk to Freedom manuscript also reveals Mandela’s little-known support of violence and terror to advance communism. Largely ignored thus far, the document paints a picture of Mandela that is entirely at odds with the myths of a peace-loving political prisoner propagated by the establishment, communists, and the Western media.
        https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/18143-original-mandela-autobiography-advocates-violence-communism
        
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        December 13, 2017 10:23pm
Morrissey

How the Republicans “win” Senate races: VOTER SUPPRESSION
https://twitter.com/drepurse/status/940711415425445888
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December 13, 2017 3:43pm
- CrazyIvan
  
  They obviously didn’t do a very good job then. did they?
  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/12/alabama-senate-election-doug-jones-defeats-roy-moore-fox-news-projects.html
  
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  December 13, 2017 4:53pm
  - Morrissey
    
    If it had been a fair vote with all eligible votes counted, and if thousands of black and Latino voters had not been terrorized in to avoiding the polling stations, the child molester/religious crank/racist chosen by the Republicans would not have come within a bull’s roar of Doug Jones.
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:53pm
RF

Today I attended a clients staff Xmas lunch in a central North Island city and must admit I came away surprised. The staff were a mixed bunch and if I were to lump them into Political piles I would say 60% red & 40% blue.

The firm is an importer so they are feeling the squeeze financially thanks the falling dollar.

The CEO made a short speech and boy is he worried about next year and retaining loyal staff.

I know we talk Shit on here about how bad the commie chic and her band of thugs are … believe me we are not alone. The feeling against Labours policies and in particular Ardern was very anti.

Many of the females obviously had an immense dislike for Ardern and the comment was made that no one could remember a PM who was so unpopular in a short time and unsuited for the Job. The gloss has quickly rubbed off as several indicated that they had voted Labour because of her. Never again…..

Obviously she does appeal to some people who voted for her but these tend to be young girls.

Basically Ardern has perfected the art of getting up everyone’s noses in a record time.

It was agreed that she will burn herself out and move on.
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December 13, 2017 5:19pm
- Digmen1
  
  We have had similar posts to this on KB over the last few weeks.
  Lets hope they are true.
  
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  December 13, 2017 5:41pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Yay, rain has arrived (along with a thunder/lightning
storm).

Might get some more tomorrow. too.
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December 13, 2017 5:23pm
dad4justice

It’s raining in Christchurch so we can fill the aquifers so the communist chinese government can access our water for free. Big trouble coming here over Kapatone thanks John Key !!
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December 13, 2017 5:30pm
- stigie
  
  Winston will fix it all for ya Dad, have faith in the drunken dwarf !~
  
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  December 13, 2017 5:50pm
- realityczech
  
  Don’t worry dad there will be enough water for your grog and to keep your favourite corner of Hadley Park watered.
  
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  December 13, 2017 5:54pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Fly and Kea just a couple of drips in the chinese bottling plant.
    
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    December 13, 2017 6:40pm
realityczech

Maori News

Warning: This article contains descriptions of child injuries that may disturb some readers.

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/12/coroner-challenges-pm-ardern-government-after-moko-inquest.html
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December 13, 2017 6:06pm
- nasska
  
  It’s a good job that they’ve got all the Maori seats. Now there’s no reason why the issue can’t be sorted out on the spot. Especially since it will all be down to “child poverdy”.
  
  Yeah, right.
  
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  December 13, 2017 6:12pm
Longknives

Unbelievable!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5172731/bombers-family-claim-outrage-law-enforcement.html

The good thing about Trump is he will literally tell this Terrorist family to go fuck themselves.
Obama would likely have met with them and given them a hug.
If it was Canada Trudeau would be pulling out the chequebook and offering them millions in compensation! (Worth remembering Trudeau is Ardern’s Crush/Political Hero…)
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December 13, 2017 6:09pm
nasska

I’m completely amazed. I honestly thought that my fellow Wairarapa residents would vote to amalgamate our three independent councils in the recently held referendum.

Not so…….good sense has shone through & the issue is a dead duck. The shambles of Auckland’s super council may if nothing else prove to be a useful if bad example of what happens when local input is sacrificed to executive incompetence.

http://times-age.co.nz/amalgamation-no-thanks/
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December 13, 2017 6:42pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  I honestly thought that my fellow Wairarapa residents would vote to amalgamate our three independent councils in the recently held referendum.
  
  Just as well Penny wasn’t involved, old chap, as Wairarapa residents would surely have done the opposite of what she says (ie they would’ve voted for amalgamation)!
  
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  December 13, 2017 6:47pm
  - nasska
    
    Fortunately Penny’s local influence has lapsed to sub zero since she left our fair region to concentrate on driving the citizens of Auckland around the bend. When Master Industries (manufacturers of crap washing machines for the peasantry) folded after the reforms of the 80’s she was made redundant & moved north.
    
    We have many things to thank Roger Douglas for but this must rank amongst his greatest achievements. 🙂
    
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    December 13, 2017 6:53pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Maybe Auckland Council should hire Roger Douglas as a rate collection consultant? It’d be a nice part-time gig for him – and he’d enjoy the chance to meet pleasant people like Penny and her friend Charlotte!
      
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      December 13, 2017 6:57pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”On Wednesday, the home was sold at a High Court-ordered auction after the 58-year-old was found to owe $11,700 in unpaid rates to Auckland Council, dating back to 2010.”…..
        
        So how the hell does the maggot from Kingsland get treated differently? The ACC are spineless!
        
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        December 13, 2017 7:06pm
      - stigie
        
        “The ACC are spineless!”
        
        The maggot must now owe the Auckland Council well over 40 grand and arrears..?
        
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        December 13, 2017 7:32pm
      - sooty
        
        No. The council has a monkey on her house now. She doesn’t pay rates till she dies or sells. She had no money to pay back the rates and penalty. It’s at least a hundred grand. That’s why the council has gone all quite on the mad haraden of kingsland, that has stood in lots of elections and gets stuff all votes. Well past her use by date and dresses funny.
        
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        December 13, 2017 9:03pm
EAD_TWO

Slightly off-piste for a Wednesday…..

I clicked on one of DPFs blog links to “Frog Blog” expecting it might be an alt-right blog detailing the goings on of Pepe the Frog.

Fair to say I was a bit miffed when it was a bl**dy website for the Greens!

Could be worse though – I could have accidentally clicked the link to Pete Georges Yawnz blog ?
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December 13, 2017 7:56pm
- realityczech
  
  Wash your eyes with bleach ❗
  
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  December 13, 2017 7:58pm
- Nostradamus
  
  EAD:
  
  Pete George will be devastated that you don’t think much of his blog. The people who comment there are strange. I don’t think you and I would last there very long – we’re too politically incorrect and irreverent!
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:09pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”I don’t think you and I would last there very long “….
    
    The words “hell”, “chance” & “snowball” spring to mind though in no particular order. 🙂
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:13pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    The people who comment there are strange.
    
    I browses that site for a few days and the best way to describe it is like it’s a private members chat group for 12 citizens advice bureau workers + “Uglytruth” of Kiwiblog fame.
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:34pm
nasska

“I can’t take it any more!” he shouted so I pushed the poor bloke under a truck to end his pain.

What a sad day. I only went to the recycling centre to get rid of some asbestos.
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December 13, 2017 8:10pm
- Nostradamus
  
  There you go – a politically incorrect joke from Nasska. I don’t think Pete George will be amused!
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:13pm
realityczech

The coroner and media blame all of us. Clearly their concern is not great enough to tell the truth about Maori violence and the real effects of paying women to have kids.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/99830184/what-happened-to-little-moko-inside-what-should-have-been-the-safety-of-his-home
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December 13, 2017 8:22pm
- GoVege
  
  Poor little kid. ..his dad was a “senior” Black Power member in jail for violence.
  Somebody needs to tell these idiots the purpose of a father is to PROTECT his kids.
  (And hopefully support them too, which is apparently too much to expect these days.)
  Not go around beating up people and committing crimes.
  Wonder why the mum wouldn’t accept her own mother’s offers to help with her kids instead of leaving them with a troubled woman already saddled with 4 kids of her own?
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:42pm
Jack5

Labour says it will ban pokies in Tasmanian pubs and clubs if it becomes state government.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tasmania-could-become-first-state-to-blow-up-the-pokies-under-labor-plan-20171213-h03nvi.html
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December 13, 2017 8:23pm
- realityczech
  
  Great less money for those greedy charities.
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:30pm
  - Sam_Bro
    
    You must have a really big chip on your ur shoulder
    
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    December 13, 2017 8:40pm
- realityczech
  
  In NZ Labour have slashed funding for starving kids and have their media hacks trying to blame National.
  
  http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/12/government-blames-kidscan-funding-woes-on-national.html
  
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  December 13, 2017 8:45pm
Jack5

“Doctor of Sociology of Sport” – that’s the title of a Lincoln University academic who says separate men’s and women’s categories in sport may be discriminatory, and reinforce male superiority.

Roslyn Kerr believes there are alternatives to male/female sports categories, based on physical attributes that result in superior performance. For example, those playing basketball would be categorised on height advantage and not necessarily gender.

Stuff reports that Kerr argues that women who are big or strong enough can be included in contact sports such as rugby and league.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/99789376/gender-division-in-sport-not-needed-and-discriminatory-says-university-doc
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December 13, 2017 8:33pm
sooty

In todays rag, the Labour charity division had a full page advert. ( the sallies ). Going on about poverdy. Giveum some tins of chickpeas and toms.
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December 13, 2017 8:52pm
Jack5

NZ isn’t the only country where solo mums struggle.

Thousands of Chinese labourers are working in Uganda and other African countries, and some of them are leaving behind Chinese-African babies.

The Washington Times reports:

“Poverty is the problem,” said James Okumu, a tribal chief who is the government administrator of the Kiryandongo district, which encompasses the dam project. [The the Karuma hydropower project.]

“The Chinese are taking advantage of the situation to spoil our girls because they know our girls need money to take care of their poor families.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/12/uganda-women-abandoned-china-workers-left-babies/
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December 13, 2017 8:57pm
- GoVege
  
  They’re a weird lot, the Chinese.
  Apparently Chinese men normally won’t abandon their children.
  I suspect it’s different if the child is mixed race.
  They won’t accept handicapped children either.
  Even here in NZ they will leave their special needs child at the hospital.
  In China, their fate is a lot worse.
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:49pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I’ve been compiling some ethnic recipes:
http://cookmegreek.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/revithada-slow-baked-chick-peas-stew.html

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/236564/chana-masala-savory-indian-chick-peas/

http://www.mattersofthebelly.com/halabessa-chickpeas-in-spicy-tomato-broth/

and for the vegans…
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/vegan-recipe/chickpea-paprikash-hungarian-chickpeas-in-paprika-roux/
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December 13, 2017 9:25pm
- realityczech
  
  I whip up a feed with chickpeas and tomatoes in a couple of minutes. I am also not a morbidly obese Maori.
  
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  December 13, 2017 9:28pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I’m not really a fan of chickpea-lentil-dried bean dishes (probably a hang-over from flatting with a vegetarian decades ago)… but always have a few cans on hand, in case I have to stretch a meal, or have a vege-type person around for dinner.
    
    Couldn’t live without cans of tomatoes tho’
    
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    December 13, 2017 9:40pm
    - Brito
      
      Dinner tonight, x2 cans chickpeas, tomato, zucchini, garlic, olive oil, parsley, mint, salt, pepper, lemon juice and zest, home made chapatis, beer…sea view…bliss…sorry all kosher…
      
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      December 13, 2017 10:07pm
Rodney Randall

During the 07.12.17 – Christchurch City Council Meeting, (Roads and Rights of Way naming Policy) section, Mayor Dalziel made it clear that she had read the document and that it was “very old.”

I thought she may have been referring to a document from the 1800s however it was created in 1993.

To her horror there was “No mention of Te Reo” either. How dreadful!!

The unelected Maori committee members at the C.C.C. will be looking to push their Maorification.

The virtue signalling luvvies at the C.C.C. are trying to rename the new QEII Pool centre something Maori. Residents said leave it as it thanks as a tribute to the commonwealth games and all. But no the C.C.C. are desperately looking to ‘rename’ the centre. How about Call Lianne Dalziel a Hoe?

In other cringe worthy news TV3 show with ex weather girl Kanoa Lloyd went all out for the diversity tick tonite! Featuring a Muslim Hijab wearing All Blacks Supporter. How progressive!
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December 13, 2017 10:08pm
Rodney Randall

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/09/grooming-gangs-muslim-men-failed-integrate-british-society/

“The report by Quilliam calls for greater support to help integrate British Pakistani people into modern British society.

It says that the gangs of mainly British-Pakistani men “have been influenced by the cultural conditions of their home country and a wider failure of British society to integrate these men into their adoptive culture”.

Right, so it is the fault of the British according to Quilliam.

Well what a shite outfit they have turned out to be!
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