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nasska

Day 2 & the State Opening of the three ring circus. What’s Bugs Bunny’s sister got up her sleeve for our amusement today. 🙂
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November 8, 2017 8:01am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:05am
  - VicParking
    
    The problem with stupid people is the fact that they dont realise they are stupid.
    
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    November 8, 2017 8:16am
  - thedavincimode
    
    ms thicky is certainly entertaining Maggy, but it certainly isn’t “free” entertainment.
    
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    November 8, 2017 8:24am
- holysheet
  
  Colgate are launching a new product that will be endorsed by Cindy.
  “Smile when you lie” will be the catch call.
  “lets do this”
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:07am
  - violentrage
    
    oh so funny….I love seeing the emasculated tantrums of the bitter and twisted right.
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:59pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Sorry to piss on your parade mate. Cindy ain’t no fool. She will get her act together and Labour will march through the session. Winnie the Poo filing court proceedings after the day of the election had already made up his mind to go with the Labour nutters. Negotiation with National was only to extract maximum benefit out of Labour.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:55am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  nazzy front and centre . . .
  You don’t see that every day.
  
  Me likey.
  
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  November 9, 2017 4:56am
VicParking

The failing newspapers online mini-me the Whanganui Chronicle is a disgrace. As there is no news in Whanganui they struggle to fill up the web page. To do this they:
Repeat seven articles twice, one article three times and one article four times.
Its changing as I write but I add a link:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/news/headlines.cfm?c_id=1503426
PS. I now see another article, the main headline repeated twice..
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November 8, 2017 8:11am
Longknives

Jacinda ‘Capitalism has Failed’ Ardern is proving hopelessly out of her depth.
Yesterday’s shambles in Parliament would not have happened with strong leadership- She is a pathetic joke.
And it seems even some of her adoring Media are turning on her…
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November 8, 2017 8:11am
- VicParking
  
  She showed no leadership. She sat there like a stunned Snapper. Your would think that the minister of Finance could add up by counting heads. Maybe the problem is that most Labour MP’s are two faced.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:14am
- Simon
  
  Please please give her some time to settle in. She was hand picked by Winston. We all respect his judgement.
  
  Also think how proud Gaylord must have felt yesterday. We need another MSM story about his feelings.
  
  Ardurn now needs to cure mental illness, end child poverty, empty the prisons thus lowering crime, lower the sea level and dispite crippling levels of personal taxation make Auckland housing affordable.
  
  Labo have promised so much and it is unfair to hold them to account.
  
  KB’s note turnip production is already up.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:26am
  - holysheet
    
    Yes
    “Lets do this”
    
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    November 8, 2017 8:29am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    The day, Lord of the Gays shuts his big mouth is the day Tooth Fairy will earn some respect from me. He is starting to annoy me a lot.
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:08am
  - RF
    
    Hang on I have a boat load of leppers heading to Auckland to be cured by Saint Cindy.
    
    Major wine distributors are pissed off that Cindy is due to turn water into wine next Monday so there goes their profit.
    
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    November 8, 2017 10:44am
Captain Mainwaring

Where’s William? Has he disappeared up his own fundamental orifice?
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November 8, 2017 8:18am
- rangitoto
  
  Must have been done in by global warming.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:27am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Probably caught out by rising sea levels when he was trying to take off from a beach
    
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    November 8, 2017 6:12pm
- softail 1450
  
  CM ,, and where’s the fool that straps a little mast and sail to his “girthy” 8″ tool and goes boating from okahu bay, ?splooge I think is his name.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:49am
  - SPLOOGE
    
    Bahahaaaaaa.
    The pain is real.
    On your knees gobbler.
    
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    November 8, 2017 11:50am
Maggy Wassilieff

John Minto agrees with Winston
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/98632623/john-minto-agrees-with-winston-peters-capitalism-delivers-for-the-wealthy
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November 8, 2017 8:18am
- mandk
  
  Except that the alternative Peters envisages is fundamentally different from the alternative John
  Minto dreams about.
  
  Minto is an antediluvian proponent of a system that has failed everywhere it has been tried. He thinks Venezuela is a socialist paradise.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:23am
- krazykiwi
  
  Capitalism has certainly delivered for Winston, a fact probably lost on him as he reclines, eats and drinks in 1st class luxury at 40,000 feet.
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:59pm
Keeping Stock

Further to a comment I left on the Winston Peters thread yesterday, has the Labour/Green/NZF coalition been founded on a lie?

Patrick Gower yesterday tweeted photos of a High Court document filed on 22 September, the day before the General Election. In the document, four senior National Party MP’s were named as defendants.

https://twitter.com/patrickgowernz/status/927700702524203008

I seriously doubt that the timing of the filing was an accident, and that makes it very questionable as to whether it is credible that Peters would have been undertaking genuine coalition negotiations with National Party MP’s he had instituted legal proceedings against. The proceedings weren’t served on defendants until yesterday, so they would have had no knowledge of them.

So did Winston Peters or anyone acting on his behalf tell Jacinda Ardern or anyone acting on her behalf about the pending legal action? Or did he carry on negotiations with Labour, knowing that he was always going into coalition with them, but not letting them know that in order to give him leverage?

I now have strong concerns as to the legitimacy of the coalition negotiation process. It is highly possible that Winston Peters extracted policy concessions, compromises and places on the Executive and around that Cabinet table under false pretenses by allowing Labour to believe he was holding genuine counter negotiations with National.

Even worse however is this possiblity. Could Labour have been in on this ruse all along, and could it be that the entire negotiation process was a sham? The consequences of that don’t bear thinking about IMHO. I can readily accept that Peters is venal and corrupt, but to discover that the entire coalition is tarnished by corruption or collusion does not bode well for the open, transparent government we have been promised.
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November 8, 2017 8:18am
- KevOB
  
  If a secret jackup had occurred that is still an agreement but the implied dishonesty rankles. One lie is one too many.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:53am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    But Jacinda never lies in politics… she told us so.
    Jacinda responds, saying she’s never told a lie in politics.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/happened-dont-have-baggage-jacinda-says-working-winston-peters-no-problem-bill-hed-make-work
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:23am
- Poppa
  
  It is quite possible Labour were in the know all along, that would be no surprise to me.
  
  One thing that is not a surprise is that Peters has his own interests well ahead of the country interests. He really is a despicable little turd
  
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  November 8, 2017 9:07am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Well well well, the jokers who voted for Winnie the Poo based on blubber Whale Oil’s advice to “keep National honest” must be feeling very proud now.
  
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  November 8, 2017 9:10am
  - Poppa
    
    I would not follow advice from Mr Whale on who to vote for.
    
    He takes so many different positions that he then can always be right
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:30am
- Prince
  
  Well I said before and during the election, Peters never had any intention of backing National, for three reasons:
  1) He has spent 3 years attacking them. To turn around and back them would be untenable.
  2) A fourth term National Govt would struggle against a media and rejuvenated Opposition determined to remove them. It would be 3 years of constant criticism, and hard work. Not something he enjoys.
  3) He has a lot more leverage in a three-headed, inexperienced coalition. Look at how he sidelined the Greens from the negotiations and his ‘Grand Announcement’.
  
  It is fundamental logic that he choose Labour, and will do so next time as well.
  
  National must drive NZF under 5%. They have already made a great start on that.
  
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  November 8, 2017 9:26am
- calendar girl
  
  What about the position of the four senior National MPs (plus others against whom proceedings have been served)?
  
  Is it possible – legally and administratively – for the plaintiff to file proceedings on a particular day, yet have an option to determine a date, 45 days later, on which such legal claims would be served on defendants? (It is stretching credibility seriously, in my personal view, to contend that service occurred ‘by chance’ on the very day that Members were scheduled to be sworn into the new Parliament.)
  
  If that facility was granted to Peters (i.e. to nominate the actual – or an approximate – service date over 6 weeks later), would the same opportunity be granted to ordinary mortals like you or me? Or did Peters receive some ‘special’ treatment? If so, one could only theorise as to why he might be granted such an advantage in a legal process.
  
  If I was one of the defendants served, I would be seriously annoyed that a legal claim against me had lain in the Court for 6+ weeks without my knowledge. That delay could put me at a significant disadvantage to the plaintiff, especially if it was at a time when I was having my occupation and personal affairs rearranged in a major fashion. It just seems wrong that any one party to a dispute might be able to manipulate the process to his advantage – if that was what occurred. On the other hand, a 6+ weeks delay in service may have been purely coincidental.
  
  Can we hear more from somebody who understands these procedures, and the rules around them?
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:41am
- RF
  
  I agree 100% and have expressed similar concerns.
  
  Is there anything that can be done about this apparent misuse of the electoral process that should be in good faith.
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:50am
- cmm
  
  It was always for the baubles and will continue to be so.
  
  And Winston won’t be satisfied with what has been agreed to. He will keep asking for more.
  
  It will be like one of those Treaty cheques the iwi get: you cash it as often as you want.
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:59am
- MrLovebucket
  
  Did I recall near the end of his announcement speech that he said is party didn’t universal in their decision to go with Labour but didn’t actually put it to a vote? I wonder what the true balance of feeling was in NZF (70% go with Nat, 30% go with Labour) but WP just wanted to make his silly point.
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:55pm
- Piniwi
  
  True KS but it is also likely that the old geezer was influenced by his internal polling for both votes so put the fishing trip in place as a bargaining chip. If he had the evidence as his champion WO claims he has then why the fishing trip? Did he play this card in negotiations with National who told him it was not a trump card but a Joker? There was nothing to disclose so bring it on.
  IMO he was leaning towards National but extended board involvement went for Labour more evident now by the tone of Martin. At board level it is Martin(s) who helped us dodge bullet.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:00pm
Hugh Pavletich

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Zoning: The Nemesis of Housing Affordability … American Institute of Economic Research

https://www.aier.org/blog/zoning-nemesis-housing-affordability

It is no secret that major urban centers across the United States are experiencing steep increases in housing prices. While economic growth has fueled an increased demand for housing, wages have simply not been able to catch up to rents. … read more via hyperlink above …
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November 8, 2017 8:19am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Speech from the throne pledges that Auckland’s urban limit will be removed and density controls will be freed up in this term of Government | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/90780/speech-throne-pledges-aucklands-urban-limit-will-be-removed-and-density-controls-will
  
  It’s official: The Government is promising to remove Auckland’s urban growth boundary as part of the legislative programme for this term. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  Housing – New Zealand Labour Party
  
  http://www.labour.org.nz/housing
  
  … extract …
  
  Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out
  
  Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds.
  
  … Previous Government then Housing Minister Nick Smith May 2016 …
  
  Labour support on city limits (abolition) welcomed … Nick Smith … Beehive
  
  https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/labour-support-city-limits-welcomed
  
  The new position by the Labour opposition calling for an abolition of city limits has been welcomed by Building and Housing Minister Dr Nick Smith.
  
  “This is a welcome repositioning by Labour. Tight city limits and not allowing intensification is at the core of Auckland’s housing problems. It is limiting new housing developments, driving up section and house prices and encouraging land banking. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  … Further background information … http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:21pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    A LITTLE HISTORY …
    
    … August 2017 report …
    
    Most baby boomers want younger generation on the housing ladder | Stuff.co.nz
    
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/96096009/most-baby-boomers-want-younger-generation-on-the-housing-ladder
    
    Baby boomers are concerned younger New Zealanders cannot afford their first home.
    
    Research by Canstar found 63 per cent of baby boomers worried about younger generations getting on the housing ladder, while only 51 per cent of Generation Y (born in the 1980s and 90s) worried about it.
    
    Baby boomers were also concerned about the housing shortage, with 65 per cent wanting more houses to be built. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    … March 2017 reports …
    
    It is important too to understand the significance of the then (now Government excluding ACT and United Future) opposition political parties working together within the MMP environment … as illustrated with the RMA amendment legislation back in March (much the same with the HASHA legislation September 2016) … reported by Bernard Hickey of Newsroom soon after …
    
    https://pro.newsroom.co.nz/articles/1629-newsroom-pro-s-8-things-at-8-trolling-millennials-is-easy-defamation-retrials-loom
    
    7. Just in case you missed it…
    
    One curious coda to the RMA debate that concluded last week was that the Opposition parties plus ACT and United Future all voted again during the third reading debate for amendments that would have abolished Rural Urban Growth Boundaries and allowed the financing of infrastructure bonds paid for with targeted rates.
    
    The amendments were defeated by National and the Maori Party.
    
    The irony of a Government that has railed against restrictions on land development by councils voting against removing those restrictions should be noted. And also that the proposal for infrastructure bonds was backed by the right-leaning New Zealand Initiative and voted for by the Greens and Labour. Strange times indeed.
    
    The NZ homeowners who hate high house prices are revealed in Labour polling | Stuff.co.nz
    
    http://i.stuff.co.nz/business/money/90244287/The-NZ-homeowners-who-hate-high-house-prices-are-revealed-in-Labour-polling
    
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    November 8, 2017 2:23pm
    - starboard
      
      You’re fucked in the head Hugh. Go see a Doctor..get some meds. ?
      
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      November 8, 2017 2:43pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … Starboard … a little more ‘reality medicine’ for you …
        
        … Following New Zealand … housing affordability becoming the dominant political issue in Australia …
        
        From boom to gloom: how rising house prices have become a worry … Sydney Morning Herald
        
        http://www.smh.com.au/comment/from-boom-to-gloom-how-rising-house-prices-have-become-a-worry-20171103-gzeh8r.html
        
        … extract …
        
        … The latest Ipsos Issues Monitor, which asks respondents to select the three most important issues facing the community, shows housing has jumped from sixth place in Victoria to second place since 2014.
        
        In NSW, housing has topped the list of concerns for the past three quarters. Half of NSW respondents now rate housing as one of the nation’s most important challenges compared with less than a third in 2014.
        
        Other polls have drawn attention to the growing public unease about housing costs. An Essential Vision survey that asks respondents nationally to nominate the “three most important issues for government” shows housing affordability climbed from sixth ranking to second between 2014 and 2017. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        … Late January report …
        
        Five Aussie cities named ‘worst in the world’ for affordable housing | The New Daily
        
        http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/property/2017/01/24/housing-affordability-demographia/
        
        Australian politicians have sleepwalked into a housing affordability “crisis” because they were hooked on property taxes and votes, a think tank has warned.
        
        Demographia, a global company based in the US, released an annual report this week that ranked Sydney as the second-most expensive city for housing in the world. …
        
        … Wayne Matthew, the Australian spokesman for Demographia, told The New Daily that our politicians are “only just starting to realise” the extent of the problem. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        … New Zealand’s new Labour – led government … watch Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern …
        
        Ardern: “We believe that housing is a right” … MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/11/ardern-believe-housing-right/
        
        … watch too … New Zealand’s new Housing & Transport Minister Phil Twyford …
        
        Phil Twyford suggests rates hike for property owners near rail, infrastructure projects | Newshub
        
        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/phil-twyford-suggests-rates-hike-for-property-owners-near-rail-infrastructure-projects.html
        
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        November 8, 2017 5:54pm
      - Swifty
        
        Hugh’s work drinks….
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1dTQh5RST0
        
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        November 8, 2017 5:55pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Population ponzi drives up NZ rents – MacroBusiness
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/11/population-ponzi-drives-nz-rents/
        
        By Leith van Onselen
        
        A few weeks back, Statistics New Zealand released its Household Living Costs Price Indexes, which revealed that low-income households’ costs are growing at a much faster rate than high-income households, due in part to rising housing rents. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        November 8, 2017 6:20pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        DUMB IS NOT BEAUTIFUL KIWIBLOGGERS (KIWI TORIES) …
        
        Isn’t it interesting New Zealand is in the broad sense the global leader in politically restoring housing affordability … as I explained to Heather du Plessis Alan on radio mid last year …
        
        Talking housing affordability across the globe with Hugh Pavletich
        
        http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Talking-housing-affordability-across-the-globe-with-Hugh-Pavletich/tabid/506/articleID/122978/Default.aspx
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        .
        … and you will note Don Brash and Bill English on the front of earlier Demographia Survey’s … with Dr Oliver Hartwich, Executive Director of The New Zealand Initiative on the front of this year’s survey.
        
        An extract of what he has to say …
        
        http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf
        
        ‘It is a great honour to provide the foreword to this year’s
        Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey. Not just
        because I am humbly following in the footsteps of previous
        contributors to the series, many of whom I know personally
        and admire deeply. But mainly because I have been a fan of
        Demographia’s indices since they started in 2005.
        
        I first became involved in housing debates in that year when I
        was a researcher at London think tank Policy Exchange. I
        remember very well how difficult it was to put a figure to
        housing affordability which is also internationally comparable.
        
        Demographia’s ‘median multiple’ approach closed this gap. It firmly established a benchmark for housing affordability by linking median house prices to median household incomes. It is as simple as it is ingenious. And it is probably the index I have cited most often in my career.
        
        The ‘median multiple’ is not a perfect measure because it does not account for house sizes or build quality. But it is the only index that allows a quick comparison of different housing markets, and it is the best approximation of housing affordability measures we have to date.
        
        So first of all, my congratulations and thanks to Wendell Cox and Hugh Pavletich: You have done the world a great service with your annual surveys and with your advocacy for housing affordability.
        
        When John Lennon met Elvis for the first time he said, “Before you there was nothing.” I feel the same way about your housing affordability index. Thank you.
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        So it is very sad when my fellow Tories here on Kiwiblog General Debate are not as supportive of restoring housing affordability as much as they should be.
        
        I will leave the former Deputy Editor of the UK (Tory) Telegraph Allister Heath to explain to you guys the consequences of Tories being greedy, ignorant and irresponsible … highlighting the hugely embarrassing annual housing consent volumes of capitalist United Kingdom and socialist France …
        
        The real ticking time bomb for the Tories is home ownership – Telegraph
        
        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/11917816/The-real-ticking-time-bomb-for-the-Tories-is-home-ownership.html
        
        … extract …
        
        ‘ … Remarkably, 354,700 new homes were built in France last year, compared with 140,880 across the UK, a pathetically inadequate number barely half of that required. The French were actually bitterly disappointed with their own performance: their recent average has been around 400,000 homes a year. …’
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        Pity about the election result. Most importantly … are you learning anything … are you CAPABLE of learning anything ?
        
        Dumb is not beautiful … unless you are Goldie Hawn …
        
        Dean Martin and Goldie Hawn – Dumb Is Beautiful – Youtube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mez8LZzA-tw
        
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        November 8, 2017 6:25pm
      - GazzaW
        
        I never read your rants Hugh. Very much a case of TLDR as far as I’m concerned and I don’t know why you bother because patently very few of us do much more than give you the obligatory downtick and move on.
        
        You could do us all a favour and go and bother Cam Slater.
        
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        November 8, 2017 7:51pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        GazzaW … Clearly you failed to read David Farrar, Kiriblogs owner post on Monday.
        
        Like most sensible people across the political spectrum, David Farrar and I are on the same page on these issues …
        
        ( NZ Housing Minister Phil ) Twyford sounding good … (Tory) Kiwiblog
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/11/twyford_sounding_good.html
        The Herald reports:
        
        New Housing Minister Phil Twyford wants to scrap Auckland’s regulated urban boundary to let the city spread.
        
        Yes, yes, yes. The single most important thing the Government could do…. Read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        November 9, 2017 2:58am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … Important Australian report …
        
        NZ PM Jacinda Ardern pledges widespread NZ housing reform … MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/11/speech-throne-pledges-widespread-nz-housing-reform/
        
        By Leith van Onselen
        
        I noted in the lead-up to the New Zealand General Election, held on 23 September, that Labour had an excellent housing platform that addresses both supply and demand distortions via negative gearing reform, banning foreign buyers of existing homes, tighter capital gains taxes, removal of urban growth boundaries, plus bond financing for infrastructure. Its plan to reduce immigration by around a third is also sound, and would help to relieve chronic housing and infrastructure pressures, especially around Auckland. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        November 9, 2017 3:02am
oldpark

Winston Watch Again. Heard a person on the radio this morning saying Peters was taking eight people to court for telling the truth over his wrong tick box slip up.Yet there was Peters in Vietnam negotiating a free trade agreement or attempting to for NZ.
What the commenter was referring to was was Mr Peters was applying for his super payments,being a Gold Card holder now that he had become aged 65.
Around that time in another blog site Peters was being described as an unemployed pensioner from St Marys Bay Auckland.
Peters when filling in the form for super payments,had a choice .One box was for a person living alone without a partner . The prize circa sixty dollars more than living with a partner. Which he was.
Was easy to make a mistake and tick the box that was for the extra money ,as against the box that paid sixty dollars less.
Much the same mistake that his Gold Card over 65s loyal,supporters did when they ticked the wrong box and voted for him.
Their reward is now history. The only difference is the betrayed fixed income pensioners ,who will be denied their legal entitlement of a small super payment increase, by Peters vetoing it ,any time soon. Will not be able to take him to court for the crime of omission and truth and betrayal of their natural ,justice,when at no time would he enjoin National Party in coalition.
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November 8, 2017 8:20am
- KevOB
  
  “Capitalism has failed”–Peters is able to enrich himself and down pensioners simultaneously.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:55am
rangitoto

All praise to Taxinda:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/98660867/petrol-prices-hit-threeyear-high-after-third-round-of-increases-in-eight-days
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November 8, 2017 8:22am
- kowtow
  
  Rangi
  
  That article by Hamish Rutherford of stuff shows how utterly shit our media is. If he’s a business reporter he should be sacked.
  
  The rise in petrol prices is due to the ongoing palace coup in Saudi Arabia and a stronger US $.
  
  No mention of either in the stuff shit article . Shocking, but then the media these days are generally shit.
  
  Good news about shale though. Drill baby drill , frack baby frack.
  
  “On Monday, prices jumped 3.1 percent, breaching $57 a barrel as arrests of senior officials in Saudi Arabia raised questions about instability there. Prices fell back Tuesday as the market lingered at overbought levels, and OPEC said U.S. shale output will soar to 7.5 million barrels a day in 2021, 56 percent higher than forecast a year earlier. Strength in the dollar also acted as a downward force on oil.”
  
  https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-07/oil-holds-near-two-year-high-on-prospect-of-deeper-saudi-arrests
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:57am
  - dime
    
    the thing is, jacinda can fix anything! just ask her!
    
    when national were in power, everything bad was their fault.
    
    that is the jacinda standard and she can fucking live by it now.
    
    why havent you fixed petrol prices jacinda? why are they so high? dont you care about the poor? kids are going to go hungry because of petrol price increases!
    
    ORDINARY new zealanders! MUMS! FAMILIES!!!
    
    shes just so goddam uncaring.
    
    the poor are relentlessly postive that they have less money since she took office.
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:13am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    NZD down 5% since election adds $.10 to fuel. That is all on Labour goofy policies.
    
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    November 8, 2017 10:05am
- Prince
  
  Inflationary pressure building already. Buckle in.
  
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  November 8, 2017 9:30am
  - Poppa
    
    Then add 10cents for their Auckland Levy, soon to be throughout NZ.
    
    Away the spiral goes which will lead to interest rate hikes and tanking share prices
    
    Welcome to Cindtopia
    
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    November 8, 2017 10:11am
- Piniwi
  
  Yes rangitoto and this is just the start since it is FUEL prices so expect some quick flow on effects to be seen as prices rise for an expensive Christmas. All imports are costing more as the dollar tanks.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:11pm
sooty

Labour were in disarray yesterday, because they have never seen a parliament with an opposition before. They were never one!
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November 8, 2017 8:24am
DifferentPerspective

Disturbing – free $$$s without accountability

So Carmel “dumber than a bag of hammers” Sepuloni has already started off with the handouts in the Social Development portfolio whereby community groups are no longer required to prove they have real punters to get government money.

Remember how Donna Awatere-Huata got found out claiming for imaginary punters for the Pipi Foundation to pay for her stomach stapling operation? Well – she wouldn’t have been found out under the new arrangements. So you can set up a community group, get a contract from MSD to deliver something like stopping violence courses, then you can say you’ve delivered courses to one zillion customers but you don’t have to prove it to get funded!

Once again proving that NZ is not one of the most corruption-free countries in the world, merely one of the most corruption-detection free countries.
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November 8, 2017 8:28am
- peterwn
  
  When the Welfare budget blows out no end, Grant will have her on the mat pretty quickly.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:37am
  - softail 1450
    
    peterwn,,,I seriously doubt that !!!
    
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    November 8, 2017 8:42am
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      In which case Jacinda’s government is in for big trouble. Helen Clark’s government survived for three terms because among other things they had some financial discipline.
      I suppose next thing, Cabinet will no longer require Treasury reports when considering proposals that cost money. If you are in Departments, you curse and swear at having to seek a Treasury report when your Minister is about to take a paper to Cabinet (or one of its Committees) and having a Treasury official asking awkward questions. If your proposal is going to get an adverse Treasury report, you generally do not even bother to let the paper go to Cabinet. However it is this which helps the Finance Minister keep a handle on things.
      In 1996-1999 Jim Bolger ensured that Winston remained under control as ‘Treasurer’ by requiring Bill Birch (Associate Finance Minister) to be kept in the loop on all financial things.
      
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      November 8, 2017 9:49am
      - srylands
        
        It was more robust than that. Bill Birch was Minister of Finance at the same time as Winston Peters was ‘Treasurer”. He wasn’t just kept in the loop on all financial things. He was responsible.
        
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        November 8, 2017 1:40pm
  - Prince
    
    That’s a joke, right ?
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:01am
  - Maxx
    
    Borrow and spend boys, borrow and spend.
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:16am
- Digmen1
  
  Yes her speech was all about how they were going to make it easier for benes to get money.
  
  Nothing much about how to get them back into work and getting off the tax payers back!
  
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  November 8, 2017 9:18am
sooty

The duck will be a Taxinda sycophant, after been rescued from oblivian from PM Angry, the man who would have led Labour to its greatst ever defeat. Imagine the look of disgust on his face at the moment he heard National were digging their toes in to oppose him.
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November 8, 2017 8:37am
- RF
  
  There was a comment on Stuff that Mallard’s face turned Grey when the negotiations were taking place and then back to red when Chippie came back with the news about National agreeing.
  
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  November 8, 2017 12:20pm
Brito

I hear Mr Ed’s famous cat Paddles, was so embarrassed by yesterday’s stupidity that he threw himself under a car.
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November 8, 2017 8:39am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Oh god I just read it and Im sorry, I giggled a little. Poor cat and all that but oh man, if ever someone had a hard day in the office, it was MLP yesterday.
  
  Leadership appeared lacking yesterday, and I wonder how she handled her leader of the house in private afterwards – thats the mark of a true leader. Sadly I think, given the sad wee attempt at a death stare at Bridges yesterday, she hasnt much experience in dealing with adversity and how to be at your best when the world is crumbling around you.
  
  RIP Paddles
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:50am
  - RF
    
    State funeral ?
    
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    November 8, 2017 12:21pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Shoe box, bottom of garden.
      
      John Key has a cat as Prime Minister for nine years, JA as PM and Paddles, nine minutes, not a good portent.
      
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      November 8, 2017 1:26pm
      - Brito
        
        Probably a similar term for the gov I would say. 9 minute wonder.
        
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        November 8, 2017 3:39pm
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    A death stare wouldn’t work on braindead Slimy Britches hmmokrightupyrself.
    
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    November 8, 2017 8:30pm
- BlueGriffon
  
  That’s not nice, it’s a horrible way to lose a pet. Bit raw for me as I have to make a decision today! My little girl hasn’t eaten for 3 days now, was so sudden. My heart is breaking and I’m sure Jacinda is struggling too.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:59am
  - niggly
    
    Nicely said BlueGriffon. Like many we’ve had our fair share of cats being run over / older cats (and dogs) reaching that unfortunate stage in their life where their health is suffering and decisions need to be made – they are members of one’s family after all and it’s not nice for anyone no matter who they are …
    
    RIP Paddles for sure.
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:09am
    - big bruv
      
      Well said Niggly, I have little time for those who think that the death of a beloved pet is something to laugh at or use to attack a person with.
      Those people are the lowest form of pond scum, lower even than unions.
      
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      November 8, 2017 10:58am
      - Brito
        
        Mr Morgan hit the nail on the head. Our native wildlife attacked by this prowling menace!!!!
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98670017/gareth-morgan-questions-pms-value-of-native-wildlife-after-her-cat-paddles-killed-by-car
        
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        November 8, 2017 11:29am
  - Brito
    
    But he still sacrificed himself for the greater good.
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:21am
  - Brito
    
    And another thing Blue, I’m not making a comment about your problems (they’re personal and for you to deal with) I’m targeting this embarrassment which is masquerading as a Democratic Government. The gloves are off and all’s fair.
    
    I watched a left apologist on the TV3 programme this morning calling yesterdays efforts by National – disgusting. She said it twice. What I saw was a professional machine take these imposters apart.
    
    So please don’t confuse the target or the issue. It’s not personal but it will be targeted – she’s a big girl now.
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:26am
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      Completely agree Brito.
      
      Yesterday for me showed us two things:
      
      National are on their game and know that nearly half the voting public – including those with “I bought Winston” buyers remorse – are backing them
      
      and
      
      This coalition has just been exposed for the complete and utter bunch of lightweights they really are. As my 15 year old would say – pwned.
      
      Its funny, my social media feed, which for weeks has been talking up “a new way” is silent. I think the realisation has hit that MLP is no Kennedy, maybe more a Kermit.
      
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      November 8, 2017 9:46am
      - Brito
        
        Exactly!
        
        I wish they’s take the advice of Fred Allen who said, “I like long walks especially when they are taken by people who annoy me.”
        
        Your social media feeders may have slipped on their boots and wandered off.
        
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        November 8, 2017 9:53am
      - sooty
        
        Taxinda will have to take the rest of the week off. Wake and all that. Did she fly home overnight?
        
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        November 8, 2017 10:21am
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    So sorry to hear that BlueGriffon, my thoughts are with you.
    
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    November 8, 2017 10:59am
  - Longknives
    
    Sorry guys but in my opinion she is the Jacinda who cried wolf..
    Labour played every sob story imaginable during their Election campaign.
    If puss really was hit by a car- I feel sorry for the cat. Not it’s lying owner..
    
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    November 8, 2017 11:25am
- Lance
  
  That’s so naughty, I shouldn’t laugh………. but I did.
  
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  November 8, 2017 9:01am
- KevOB
  
  Even her cat has disowned her–where’s the SPCA?
  
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  November 8, 2017 12:50pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Did paddles decide to end it all? escaping a tortured and lonely home life with disinterested parents – emblematic of labour’s failure to immediately fix mental health issues in NZ? And if not, then does Gareth Morgan have an alibi?
  
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  November 8, 2017 3:35pm
- Gabby
  
  I hear richprick let you fondle his yankidolla Bitcho, but had to grab it when you put it down your pants.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:31pm
  - Brito
    
    Yip and because of the drop in the dollar I get a better return.
    
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    November 8, 2017 8:37pm
    - Gabby
      
      You dirty dirty little speculator Bitcho.
      
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      November 8, 2017 9:40pm
softail 1450

if you want to see a master liar ,sidestepping,bullying ,intimidator in action watch

“Winston peters the panting pensioner huffs and puffs”

on Google , what a prick ,I’m not sure who the reporter is but could be Rebecca wright ,if it is she has sure changed her tune recently.
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November 8, 2017 8:40am
Huevon

Paddles is dead.
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November 8, 2017 8:45am
- sooty
  
  Would make a nice handbag!
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:18am
  - howitis
    
    For use on the Left arm only!
    
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    November 8, 2017 11:20am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Anyone with a tennis racquet needing re-stringing?
    
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    November 8, 2017 12:30pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Perhaps a new hat for the demented water woman?
    
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    November 8, 2017 1:09pm
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Ten Reasons We Got Rid of National
No. 4: Judith Collins

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9818950/Judith-Collins-comes-clean-about-dinner

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10442284/Judith-Collins-resigns-says-shes-a-victim
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November 8, 2017 8:51am
- Inandout
  
  Three year old spin.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:57am
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    You’re right. And, sadly, Key’s spin is no more convincing three years later.
    
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    November 8, 2017 9:17am
- Lance
  
  Oh dear
  Morrissey desperately clings on to something that sends him to his happy place following yesterdays embarrassing debacle.
  
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  November 8, 2017 9:05am
  - thedavincimode
    
    At least he got the memo about living in the past. He just doesn’t realise he’s was meant to be living in 1814, not 2014.
    
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    November 8, 2017 1:07pm
- SPLOOGE
  
  She’s an odious piece of crap.
  
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  November 8, 2017 11:54am
  - thedavincimode
    
    So what’s the prob splooge. Your rings gone?
    
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    November 8, 2017 1:08pm
MCos

From the Onion:

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

Nation To Wait For More Facts On Texas Shooting Before Doing Absolutely Nothing About It

Fortunately for New Zealand the Onion has enough on it’s plate domestically right now that it hasn’t need to cast it’s withering gaze over our parliament.
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November 8, 2017 9:14am
- SPLOOGE
  
  How their take on the loser English thinking he had won when he didn’t have enough vote would be hilarious.
  Then if they heard him flustering, obfuscating and backtracking on RNZ with Kim Hill would have left them bemused.
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:23pm
  - Brito
    
    No he wasn’t.
    
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    November 8, 2017 3:42pm
    - SPLOOGE
      
      Yes he was.
      
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      November 8, 2017 5:54pm
      - Brito
        
        No….he wasn’t!
        
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        November 8, 2017 7:29pm
    - Gabby
      
      He was whining Bitcho, and you loved it.
      
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      November 8, 2017 8:25pm
      - Brito
        
        Gobby, tell me you’ve got your wee school dress on and you’ve brought me an apple.
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:34pm
      - Gabby
        
        Bitcho, you usually want the thong made from yankidollas. You off your feed? Keep your pecker up.
        
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        November 8, 2017 9:38pm
  - realityczech
    
    Splooge, Uncle Winston has let the mule toothed bimbo play prime minister for a short while . But the people overwhelmingly preferred Bill.
    
    Someone will get her pregnant (won’t be Gayford) while at the same time the whole crumbly edifice around her will collapse.
    
    I will enjoy watching it and Bill will fix it all up after the kids have finished playing.
    
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    November 8, 2017 7:41pm
    - Brito
      
      Hooray for RC!!!
      
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      November 8, 2017 8:35pm
Maxx

I see that there has been an increase in the “living wage” in the UK to £8.75 ($16.68) and £10.20 ($19.45) in London. This is compared to $20.20 for all of NZ. Apparently everywhere in NZ is more expensive than London to live.

Vector have signed up to this as well now. Good on them for taking the free publicity. I doubt they have many (any??) employees below it already!
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November 8, 2017 9:15am
- Digmen1
  
  Yes many people are blinded by the argument that we are a low wage economy.
  
  We are not! We have a very high minimum wage compared to rich countries. The USA and Canada are about $12.00 Chile is $7.00. China is $4.00 .
  
  We do seem to be a high cost country! Elecricity, Houses, Petrol, Groceries, Consumer Goods etc.
  
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  November 8, 2017 9:22am
dime

NOOOOOOOOOOO not jacindas cat!!!

im going home 🙁
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November 8, 2017 9:24am
- Inandout
  
  Front page in the tanking Herald, says a lot really about our MSM. Their readership is slowly dying.
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:10am
- G152
  
  One of the advantages of being a cat lady..
  Diversionary tactic times number of moggies
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:35am
- starboard
  
  BREAKING NEWS
  
  “Cindys pussy takes one for the team” ?
  
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  November 8, 2017 3:18pm
  - Brito
    
    Pussy like a bulldog eating custard.
    
    Sorry, got carried away.
    
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    November 8, 2017 3:45pm
Tauhei Notts

I am concerned about the new government’s decision to restrict the exchange of information in domestic violence cases.
I have read several American newspapers in the wake of the Sutherland Springs massacre. The big point to emerge is that the killer had signalled his idiocy on several occasions but the various authorities had been careless in their failure to communicate such acts of idiocy to other authorities. When all the pieces are put together the killer was a walking timebomb. An ounce of co-operation between various authorities would have alerted the community to this phuckwit, and possibly saved the lives of 26 church goers.
New Zealand women deserve to know the full names of dingbats so that they can avoid them in their social interactions.
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November 8, 2017 9:34am
- Morrissey
  
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  What did you think of Paula Bennett’s decision to ignore the wishes of the Police and Parliament’s cross-party law and order Select Committee to reduce criminals’ access to firearms?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/97512128/opportunity-missed-for-nz-to-tighten-gun-control-laws
  
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  November 8, 2017 9:41am
  - dime
    
    fuck that. who knows what future leftist governments are capable of.
    
    hard to resist without guns.
    
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    November 8, 2017 10:11am
  - kowtow
    
    Practically nothing in their recommendations would have reduced access for criminals to firearms .
    
    Paula B did a great job kicking that rubbish into touch.
    
    And it wasn’t cross party .
    
    Ron Marks to give him credit dissented . He made a minority report and was very sensible .
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyQaGYk3jzo
    
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    November 8, 2017 10:43am
- Gabby
  
  Judges aren’t too bothered if the odd girlfriend gets beaten to death by someone they bailed.
  
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  November 8, 2017 5:38pm
Ross12

It looks more and more like the DNC are “using” Donna Brazile and her book to throw Clinton under the bus. Clinton has obviously become toxic to them and they want her out.
The Gateway Pundit has had several bits a day from her book in recent days.
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November 8, 2017 9:46am
- Manolo
  
  I don’t think the Clintons will ever leave. The corrupt family will go on.
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:11am
BlueGriffon

This is an absolute disgrace. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941646

Government by UTU! I demand a new election.
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November 8, 2017 10:02am
- Brito
  
  I’ve got my head out the window listening for the screams of UTU from Grey Power. All I can hear is knitting needles and rusks being sucked.
  
  If they’d just put their collective teeth back in and bite the hand that fed them (the bullshit) we might see The Poisoned Dwarf hauled back before them and held to account.
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:10am
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I wonder when you National supporters are going to get it through your thick heads that attacking your only potential coalition partner out of spite is not a winning strategy.
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November 8, 2017 10:08am
- dime
  
  the winning strategy is to drove labours bitch winston under 5%. if he had got 4.9% last time, national are in.
  
  also, he will be 75 next time out. then 78… you get the idea.
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:12am
  - Maxx
    
    Sounds like Morgan is doubling down on TOP which with the disaffected NZF voters may see them get close to 5% next time, and hopefully also drag NZF down below that.
    
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    November 8, 2017 10:47am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      Morgan is unelectable.
      
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      November 9, 2017 4:44am
  - cmm
    
    I don’t think Winston really cares what happens next election.
    
    The way he’s acting suggests this is his last term in office and he’s just looting everything he can.
    
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    November 8, 2017 11:08am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      His support of trade deals with pariah Russia seems deserving of much deeper interogation. Was there some hidden consideration involved?
      
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      November 8, 2017 12:11pm
    - KevOB
      
      I think Winston’s gone a bit senile or is irrational for some other health reason. Pity– I have had a high regard for him in the past.
      
      Question was he legally competent at the time of making the coalition agreement?
      
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      November 8, 2017 12:56pm
      - fernglas
        
        Perhaps someone could make a case for arguing that he had unreasonably fettered his and his board’s decision making power by issuing proceedings prior to entering into negotiations, and by not telling his board what he was going to do (or by telling them, whichever way you wish). Judicially review the coalition decision. It would probably be a waste of time but the sparks would be pretty to watch.
        
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        November 8, 2017 1:10pm
      - KevOB
        
        @fernglas
        Judicially review the coalition decision
        I believe a case could be put for that.
        What other protection do we have in MMP coalition negotiations? The parties do need to have legal capacity.
        How do we protect ourselves against a crook in these circumstances?
        
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        November 8, 2017 5:06pm
      - treadingthemill
        
        Question was he legally competent at the time of making the coalition agreement?
        
        Wow, you guys are getting desperate.
        
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        November 8, 2017 5:08pm
- Brito
  
  Would you get into bed with this criminal? Probably because you’re a bleeding lefty.
  
  The Poisoned Dwarf will only be able to sleep with the dogs he’s decided to lie down with. The fleas and ticks of deception will blight his future.
  
  Can’t wait until he needs to share a retirement care ward with some of those he deceived.
  
  “Another rusk Winston? Hang on, I’ve dropped it in my bedpan…no matter, here ya go mate.”
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:15am
- BananaLlama
  
  Oh wait thats right National is going with the Greens. The Greens! i’m surprised he hasn’t come crawling kissing Nationals arse already. Imagine getting stuck with those soap dodgers because a few stubborn blue blooded coots want to press their vendetta against him and his party.
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:23am
  - Brito
    
    Give it a while and National will be able to govern alone. A few more weeks of this bile from the Gov, and then there’s the drama from Winnie’s continual legal side show, and the voters will crave a stable government with a vision for the future.
    
    One of my further favourite sayings was from that great (albeit dodgy) character, George Bernard Shaw.
    
    “The power of accurate observations is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it” – or something along those lines.
    
    This applies in good measure to the trolls and left leaning contributors to this blog.
    
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    November 8, 2017 10:36am
    - MrLovebucket
      
      Sure the Nats might be able to govern alone next time around, but it will only be for 1 term. Under MMP they need a credible center/center-right partner that isn’t NZF. Perhaps the Richie McCaw party (unless the Nats grab him for their own leader)
      
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      November 8, 2017 3:34pm
- Prince
  
  NZF is not a potential coalition partner.
  Do you really believe they would change horses in 2020 and effectively tell the country “we got it wrong in 2017” ?
  They have chosen their colours and must not be allowed to pretend to be ‘kingmaker’ next election.
  
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  November 8, 2017 10:50am
  - cmm
    
    Below 5% and they don’t have to explain anything to anybody.
    
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    November 8, 2017 11:09am
  - Digmen1
    
    Yes, next election we must ensure that the MSM label NZF as part of the Labour coalition.
    Every day!
    
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    November 8, 2017 11:11am
    - BananaLlama
      
      Cut your nose to spite your face.
      
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      November 8, 2017 11:49am
      - Prince
        
        Avoid another Peters’ grandstanding farce when the decision is already made.
        
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        November 8, 2017 1:11pm
Michael

Vic,
It’s the Wanganui Chronicle.
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November 8, 2017 10:45am
Longknives

Jacinda ‘Capitalism has Failed’ Ardern and her shambolic so-called ‘Government’ are getting a hammering from many in the Media and are an absolute laughing stock after one day in Parliament.
How convenient then that her cat gets run over and it gets splashed all over the front pages in an effort to distract/drum up sympathy.
What’s going to happen when this vile, lying Lefty runs out of Grandparents and Pets that she can play the big sad eyes/ ‘poor little me’ game with??
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November 8, 2017 11:19am
- RF
  
  Dont forget gods gift to woman. He is waiting in the wings.
  
  He could be collateral damage….
  
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  November 8, 2017 12:46pm
- KevOB
  
  Did her PR team have anything to do with the cat’s demise?
  
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  November 8, 2017 12:59pm
- itstricky
  
  You seem to be confusing yourself there.
  
  The (leftist; commie; Labour loving) media are “hammering” her, yet are also splashing love pieces to her cat on the front page?
  
  Which is it? Media bad, or media good? Or, dare I say it, does it depend on which way you take it when you read a particular article? Sometimes good, sometimes bad, depending on whether you feel like you agree or not?
  
  Unless of course, you’re suggesting he cat was bumped on purpose, which would be pretty far out there.
  
  Then again, if a person looses a grandparent and a pet and all you can say is “vile lying sad eyes, poor little you” you probably don’t have that many scruples so I wouldn’t put it past you to come up with some whacked out conspiracy theory about cat whacking.
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:14pm
  - starboard
    
    Pissed again so early itsdrippy. Tsk Tsk.
    
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    November 8, 2017 3:22pm
Manolo

Will he be fired?
http://nypost.com/2017/11/06/robert-muellers-leak-problem/
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November 8, 2017 11:29am
Fletch

Jimmy Kimmel does a Stranger Things / Perfect Strangers mashup. Gee, Larry and Belki are looking old. Good to see them do the ‘dance of joy’ again though 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUBuiLaToRM
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November 8, 2017 11:31am
krazykiwi

Another day.

Another 274,000 trees planted.

Another lie.
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November 8, 2017 12:09pm
- Rich Prick
  
  And another 30 houses built, it’s magic!
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:36pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    100 days = 3000 houses built = 15 thousand people rescued from the streets, Comrade. Don’t doubt the vision!
    
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    November 8, 2017 6:45pm
oldgolfer

So Winston files his papers before the election, and presumably planned the action long before that.
That means he was never going to go with National.
That means that every voter was cheated in the sense that they were throwing their vote down a dark alley.
That means that Peters’ oft-repeated phrase about ”letting the voters” decide on which party he would side with was nonsense.
That means that, as a nation, we have been led into the dark.
Am I angry?
You bet.
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November 8, 2017 12:25pm
- SPLOOGE
  
  ”That means he was never going to go with National.”
  
  No it doesn’t.
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:27pm
  - Brito
    
    Yes it does.
    
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    November 8, 2017 1:34pm
    - SPLOOGE
      
      Prove it Brito.
      
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      November 8, 2017 2:10pm
      - Brito
        
        Sorry SPLOOGE I was just being obtuse. Knee jerk when I saw your comment.
        
        Once again, sincerely, really sorry.
        
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        November 8, 2017 3:03pm
      - Brito
        
        No I’m not.
        
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        November 8, 2017 3:14pm
      - starboard
        
        Splurge is on the bene..hence it can talk shit all day on here inbetween betting on nags at the TAB and beating his defacto wife.
        
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        November 8, 2017 3:24pm
      - Brito
        
        Do you think he’s trapped some poor Thai (lady)boy on his boat and ripped their passport from their decaying fingers?
        
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        November 8, 2017 3:30pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        And on the fantasy goes.
        
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        November 8, 2017 5:56pm
softail 1450

Im no fan of crusher collins but man did she just cane the shit out of the COL,their ears will be ringing for weeks…
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November 8, 2017 12:38pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Link? I’d like to read or watch it!
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:00pm
  - softail 1450
    
    ROL ,PARLIAMENT THIS AM ,
    
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    November 8, 2017 2:15pm
sooty

Is Whinnystan a one shot wonder? It will be interesting to see the next poll.
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November 8, 2017 12:39pm
rightoverlabour

Karma is a word that Winston needs to look up. Sometimes it takes a while, but I do believe he will get what he deserves. I have noticed the large number of posts over the last few days expressing anger at the way Winston has subverted the democratic system. I don’t think this anger will subside. Winston needs to remember that he is not immortal. Whether he is remembered as a great politician or a despicable tyrant is up to him. And the people who cosy up to him need to heed this too.
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November 8, 2017 12:52pm
- krazykiwi
  
  He’ll be remembered as a one-man attack dog, unashamedly brimming with self-interest, and wholly unsuited to constructive leadership after decades of untreated megalomania
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:44pm
- SPLOOGE
  
  ‘Utu’ is a word National should look up.
  The reason being is because that’s what happened to them.
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:12pm
  - softail 1450
    
    you are moving quick today splodge ,straight to talking shit,,,,,
    
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    November 8, 2017 2:17pm
    - SPLOOGE
      
      Awwww. Is diddums getting upset with words again?
      Have a cup of tea and a lie down, the stress of upsetting yourself is not good for the ticker.
      
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      November 8, 2017 2:30pm
      - softail 1450
        
        you silly old prick go back to dreaming about your car and boat and those other things that you seem to be obsessed with ,you are about as funny as a positive hiv diagnosis ,and you know how bad that is aye ?
        
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        November 8, 2017 2:37pm
      - Brito
        
        Yes it is!
        
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        November 8, 2017 3:05pm
    - SPLOOGE
      
      The feelings of the easily triggered is on display for all to see. The fantasists here writing their dreams and the weak, the feeble easily hurt idiots.
      I love you all. Don’t stop.
      
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      November 8, 2017 5:58pm
      - softail 1450
        
        splodge is so cretinous he doesn’t realise when he’s getting the piss taken out of him.
        
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        November 8, 2017 6:52pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Ohhh softarse. You’ll need to do better than that.
        
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        November 8, 2017 9:03pm
  - Brito
    
    No it didn’t.
    
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    November 8, 2017 3:05pm
    - SPLOOGE
      
      Do what?
      
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      November 8, 2017 5:59pm
      - Brito
        
        What?
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:40pm
UpandComer

Has anyone read Trotter’s latest piece? It’s actually disgusting.
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November 8, 2017 1:04pm
- Prince
  
  Does anyone ever read them ?
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:25pm
- kowtow
  
  Give us a link.
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:47pm
- treadingthemill
  
  I have. What did you find disgusting about it?
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:52pm
Notsofast

The Teina Pora compensation decision highlights the venal selfishness of the now defunct justice ministers Adams and Collins.
What atrocious specimens history is unveiling for the fishbowl of history.
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November 8, 2017 1:07pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Quick, over there! Is that an aardvark?
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:14pm
- Notsofast
  
  No but one very big fish grins ear from ear as he works out his time. He comes to his compensation claim in a few months armed with the knowledge the Prime minister must certainly know the case facts.
  A seismic sigh in Palmerston North awaits when they comprehend the serial deception of Grantham Kelly and Olsen.
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:20pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Dream are for free even for morons.
    
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    November 8, 2017 2:56pm
- Prince
  
  Thanks – puts me in remembrance of the new Government now ruling our Parliament.
  
  … Now I know
  That twenty centuries of stony sleep
  Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
  And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
  Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:23pm
- Notsofast
  
  Poets’ sub forum thataway. But good, New Zealand is certainly in structural decline.
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:32pm
- Jack5
  
  If it weren’t for his prison term, Teina Pora would have died years ago, probably in a gang, and likely at the end a drug taker.
  
  For saving him from such a pitiful end, the taxpayer has to pay him millions.
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:25pm
  - Notsofast
    
    I agree his net outcome beats the batting average for monger prospects.
    But the spectacle of the crocodile tears from many thousands in the system who knew he was innocent all along is obscene. The compensation is irrelevant.
    
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    November 8, 2017 4:36pm
Brito

Just watched the debates in Parliament. It was wonderful to watch a slick professional unit take it to the rabble.

Judith Collins, Amy Adams, Nick Smith, etc etc. Quotes from Hansards outlining what they said in opposition which they are strangely silent about. Even quotes from the speaker, which left him hanging.

This gov (with a lowercase g) will not go the full term. There is sooooo much incompetence here. And the conflicts between ideologies and policies are as wide as a canyon is grand, and the differences are as deep as the sparkling and wind ruffled sea. Ah prose!!!
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November 8, 2017 1:25pm
- Poppa
  
  You are so right Brito.
  
  Never send a boy on a man’s erand
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:56pm
- Gabby
  
  Bingles sounded a bit whingy Bitcho. You like that don’t you.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:22pm
  - Brito
    
    Where’s my apple??
    
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    November 8, 2017 8:42pm
Digmen1

I hope the judge who gave the guy who killed Marie Harlick bail twice is feeling good.

Thirty Three offences!

And he was allowed to live in the same town!

And now we will have to pay to keep him in jail!

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November 8, 2017 1:34pm
Digmen1

The government just said that Climate Change is the world’s biggest problem.

No its not.
Over population and islam are the world’s biggest problems.
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November 8, 2017 1:41pm
- krazykiwi
  
  The biggest problem is that Climate Change™ is the biggest problem!
  
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  November 8, 2017 1:48pm
- treadingthemill
  
  Climate change is one of the biggest problems, but so is soil erosion, sea, river, and air pollution, deforestation, and myriad other ecological disasters.
  Over population is also a problem, but that’s likely to taper off over the rest of the century. I don’t think Islam is one of the biggest problems. Terrorism, from any source, is a major challenge, but comparatively few people die from terrorism in relation to disease and poverty.
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:00pm
SPLOOGE

I’m going on holiday tomorrow.
Are you going to miss me?
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November 8, 2017 2:13pm
- Jack5
  
  Splooge, you fool no-one. You are on “holiday” 24 hours a day, seven days a week, year round.
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:21pm
  - SPLOOGE
    
    Errr, no I’m not jackoff.
    Typical right wing idiot. Devoid of factual evidence so just resorts to making it up.
    The butthurt is real.
    I do though have a good work life balance.
    The joys of being your own man.
    
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    November 8, 2017 2:34pm
    - Jack5
      
      Yep, most of the bums begging on the pavements of Auckland can boast the same – they ain’t wage slaves.
      
      Splooge, when you talk of absence pf “factual evidence” and of “making it up”, are you not blushing about your bullshit tales of living in your luxury yacht and commuting to your central office in your BIG Audi?
      
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      November 8, 2017 2:47pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Bahahaaaaa.
        Ohhh the hypocrisy.
        I never said luxury yacht or that I lived on it.
        Working in an office? more made up bullshit by yourself.
        You really are a first class idiot. A butthurt fool.
        You know nothing of me but your continued fascination with myself drives you into the realm of fantasy.
        Grow up boy. Control your emotions.
        This is an open forum….no need to get upset all the time.
        
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        November 8, 2017 3:01pm
      - Jack5
        
        Splooge notes:
        
        I never said luxury yacht or that I lived on it.
        
        At last you admit that you are, at best, caretaker-cleaner of the marina?
        
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        November 8, 2017 3:09pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Struggling again Jackoff, struggling.
        
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        November 8, 2017 3:21pm
      - realityczech
        
        “I never said luxury yacht or that I lived on it.”
        
        It’s okay he lies all the time. It’s a cultural thing and considered normal for them.
        
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        November 8, 2017 5:45pm
    - SPLOOGE
      
      RC. Please show me a lie I’ve told.
      Of course you can’t. You idiot.
      
      Bahahaaaaaaa.
      
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      November 8, 2017 6:01pm
      - realityczech
        
        I was referring to Jacksie. “You idiot”
        
        Epic fail. 🙂
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:23pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Ohhh. Of course you were RC.
        Which is why you tagged it in.
        How remiss of me.
        
        *watches the struggle*
        
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        November 8, 2017 9:11pm
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      jackoff equals splooge eh genius ?
      
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      November 9, 2017 4:34am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Deserting NZ so soon after COL get’s their bums on their seats in Parliament? You must be truly heart-broken at their ineptness.
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:58pm
- softail 1450
  
  splodge ,paremaremo is no holiday fool.
  
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  November 8, 2017 3:03pm
  - SPLOOGE
    
    Off to the tropics.
    
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    November 8, 2017 3:55pm
  - Gabby
    
    Who looks after your girly bike when you’re back in, softcock.
    
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    November 8, 2017 5:50pm
    - softail 1450
      
      grubby I’m surprised you can get three words down on this blog as you are undoubtedly pissed by now .
      
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      November 8, 2017 6:55pm
      - Gabby
        
        softcock I’m surprised you know a four syllable word what with the concussion and titmangling.
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:19pm
    - Brito
      
      You two make a lovely couple. But please let the children off the yacht when you get back. It’s only fair.
      
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      November 8, 2017 8:43pm
- Brito
  
  I will.
  
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  November 8, 2017 3:07pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Are you taking the yacht at Westaven or the V8 Audi?
  
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  November 8, 2017 3:44pm
  - SPLOOGE
    
    Flying to warmer climes.
    
    I have rented a black Q7.
    I’ve always wanted one of those.
    
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    November 8, 2017 3:58pm
    - softail 1450
      
      splodge ,,,how much did she cost ? daily or weekly rate,,is she pretty ?
      
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      November 8, 2017 4:06pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      I’ve always wanted one of those.
      
      Somehow that doesn’t surprise me.
      
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      November 8, 2017 6:15pm
    - starboard
      
      Q7..is that like a Raleigh 20 ?
      
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      November 8, 2017 6:51pm
      - Happychappy
        
        Starboard it sounds more like a mobile scooter.
        
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        November 8, 2017 7:38pm
      - Gabby
        
        softcock’s the bike goto guy starBubba.
        
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        November 8, 2017 9:33pm
Jack5

How low humans can go …

A prize winning photograph of an elephant and her calf on fire as they flee from a mob in India.

The overbreeding villagers are trying to eliminate elephants which compete for land.

There are too many people in the world and too few elephants.

I thought that elephants were sacred to Hindu. Perhaps the two-legged scum who did this to the elephants are Muslims – or Christians.

https://arynews.tv/en/picture-elephants-fire-best-wildlife-photography-award/
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November 8, 2017 2:17pm
- Johnboy
  
  They’re obviously just not opening enough corner dairy’s in India! 🙂
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:23pm
- treadingthemill
  
  I thought that elephants were sacred to Hindu.
  
  I thought it was cows.
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:33pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Ganesha is regarded as a God.
    
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    November 8, 2017 2:42pm
- Jack5
  
  Cruelty to animals isn’t limited to the Third World.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/98653937/cow-screamed-during-beating-trial-told
  
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  November 8, 2017 3:52pm
- Digmen1
  
  I like Indian people (In India)
  But there really are too many of them.
  I saw a doco n Choice the other day – there are 26 million people in New Delhi! and they say there are planning for another 10 million.
  
  It really is time they started some decent birth control
  
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  November 8, 2017 5:11pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Birth Control? First they have to stop shitting in the streets!
    
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    November 8, 2017 6:49pm
  - Gabby
    
    They know we need dairy workers willing to work for dung dicman.
    
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    November 8, 2017 8:18pm
    - Brito
      
      Gobby I’m going to miss your erudite replies and comments when they take you away.
      
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      November 8, 2017 8:45pm
      - Gabby
        
        Visiting time’s over Bitcho, sorry.
        
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        November 8, 2017 9:34pm
- realityczech
  
  “Muslims”
  
  Israel: Government pays students to fight internet battles
  
  Students in Israel are to form government-funded “covert units” to defend the country on Facebook and Twitter, it’s reported.
  The Prime Minister’s office is reportedly spending around £540,000 recruiting more than 500 students to respond to social media posts calling for boycotts and sanctions against the country, the Jerusalem Post says. Those with foreign language skills who receive these “scholarships” would not identify themselves as being in the pay of the government. Instead, Israel’s Ha’aretz newspaper says, the plan is to make the programme appear to be based on the activity of politically-neutral students, with the Prime Minister’s Office also hoping to recruit from pro-Israel student groups from around the world.
  
  http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23695896
  
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  November 8, 2017 5:40pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    A mere piss in the pan compared to the 12 BILLION Soros has donated to terrorist funding recently. Yes I include BLM, Democrat Party and Antifa in the term ‘terrorist’.
    
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    November 8, 2017 6:51pm
Johnboy

What’s happened to Milkey? Is he organising Paddles funeral? 🙂
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November 8, 2017 2:21pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Probably still jacking off to the news Jacindy won. Look for a council worker with a suspiciously strong grip.
  
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  November 8, 2017 6:53pm
softail 1450

just watched tamiti coffee giving a speech in parliament he finished it with a dedication to his husband with the words “let’s have some kids soon aye”,,,,,,the Labour Party are not only going to fix the country but also carry out some astonishing miracles by the sound of it,,,WTF?
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November 8, 2017 2:25pm
- Johnboy
  
  All his children will be brown I suspect! 🙂
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:27pm
  - starboard
    
    Of course..they both worship the butthole. Filthy sodomites.
    
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    November 8, 2017 3:30pm
wiseowl

Parliament has turned in to a hug and hongi fest.
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November 8, 2017 2:38pm
- softail 1450
  
  wise owl ,it’s puke enducing actually,a cluster of feminists ,homosexuals,and beta males all hugging kissing hongying and backslapping each other….eeeeh.
  
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  November 8, 2017 2:52pm
  - Jack5
    
    Under MMP, minorities rule: gays, ethnic groups, feministas …
    
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    November 8, 2017 3:05pm
    - realityczech
      
      Jews too Jackboot ? John Key was a Jew.
      
      How do you feel about that ? Or is it another exception to your rule again ?
      
      Oh and ad hominems are not answers dickhead.
      
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      November 8, 2017 5:42pm
      - Jack5
        
        In your case, Kearealityczech, the tactic would be called ad avium, wouldn’t it? Or perhaps ad psittacorum?
        
        Any Latin grammarians reading, please correct.
        
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        November 8, 2017 11:03pm
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        JK was a jew – wtf ? You’re fucked in the kea.
        
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        November 9, 2017 4:28am
- Gabby
  
  Poor old damepatsy threw up in her mouth with all the speechin on poor homeless people. The very idea of it.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:16pm
  - Brito
    
    Easy, you very nearly made sense there and I up ticked you.
    
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    November 8, 2017 8:47pm
Jack5

Is the British legal establishment decadent?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/08/mother-of-five-encouraged-terrorism-facebook-spared-jail-can/
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November 8, 2017 2:39pm
- Brito
  
  No Jack it’s screwed. Put them all on a leaky boat and send them back to the promised land – Raqqa by way of Saudi Arabia. See how keen they are then.
  
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  November 8, 2017 3:11pm
JibberJabber

Jeepers, the Coalition of Clusterfuckers can`t even pull the wool over Bryce Edwards eyes, the party faithful are going off script.
Maybe it`ll be Lizzie to the rescue?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941784
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November 8, 2017 3:19pm
ex-golfer

Nuclear grade hypocrisy from the PM in the house (and I paraphrase):
“We would expect the opposition to hold the government to account, not just oppose for the sake of opposing”.

Thats rich.
Labour in opposition couldn’t even support their own published policies when the National party pursued them (flag change, trade etc). A-grade opposing for the sake of opposing.
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November 8, 2017 3:24pm
Jack5

More Leftist undermining of the great Ronald Macdonald House charities.

Leftists would rather have the bill footed by taxpayers than by voluntary charities.

What they’re rally after, of course, is control – bureaucratic control.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/98590488/health-organisations-question-fastfood-sponsorship
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November 8, 2017 3:35pm
- ex-golfer
  
  What they’re really after is just another Government (aka taxpayer) hand-out.
  
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  November 8, 2017 3:37pm
ex-golfer

I see WO is resorting to a glorified version of plagiarism now……….

Posted yesterday – by Liam Hehir:
https://medium.com/@_hehir_/this-pie-analogy-is-the-most-kiwi-way-of-explaining-electing-the-speaker-ever-2e758e103033

Posted this afternoon on WO – by Spanish Bride:
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/11/fishy-tale-labour-got-speaker-selected/#more-343905
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November 8, 2017 3:56pm
Jack5

Ardern to follow up Hager the Horrible’s Afghanistan accusations.

Didn’t take long for the international socialist to come out!

Let’s screw this!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98686400/government-to-look-into-the-allegations-about-sas-actions-in-afghanistan
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November 8, 2017 4:43pm
- ex-golfer
  
  That will be most interesting to follow – particularly given Ron Marks recent explicit support for the armed forces of New Zealand:
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98435480/ron-mark-goes-offscript-to-promise-more-money-to-rsa
  
  “…He also slammed recent media criticism of the military regarding high-profile cases, including the alleged involvement of the NZSAS in a 2010 strike that led to six civilian deaths in Afghanistan, and the Battle of Baghak.”
  
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  November 8, 2017 4:47pm
  - stigie
    
    Can someone please tell me why Ron Mark is wearing all those medals across his chest the last few days..?
    Are they medals for doing a superior job for changing the oil in the LAVs or spud peeling in the SAS military kitchen..?
    
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    November 8, 2017 4:55pm
    - cmm
      
      I expect those are his medals from Oman or wherever it was. Always generous with the bling out there.
      
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      November 8, 2017 5:04pm
    - Johnboy
      
      He used to wear them on his arse as armour plating stigie but since Winston stopped kicking him after the election victory he has been brave enough to move them to his little apology for a chest.
      I trust that clears up your question! 🙂
      
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      November 8, 2017 5:49pm
      - Gabby
        
        You want the star shaped one don’t you johnsboy.
        
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        November 8, 2017 5:56pm
      - starboard
        
        Go to bed Gobby its past your bedtime..Sploorge will be along soon to ‘ tuck you in’.
        
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        November 8, 2017 7:03pm
      - stigie
        
        Splurge and Gobby would make a fine couple.. ?
        
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        November 8, 2017 7:10pm
      - Gabby
        
        No I believe starBubba is not taken, stinky. You could be in.
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:11pm
- Gabby
  
  Don’t worry jacksie, I’m sure nobody’s been licking yankee torturer arse.
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:14pm
realityczech

They must be making a fortune out of KB

Invasion of the troll armies

the Israeli government revealed that it would also recruit “covert units” however. These would be staffed by a mixture of international supporters and domestic students, whose high intelligence, low income and familiarity with social media make them generally well suited to professional trolling.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/nov/06/troll-armies-social-media-trump-russian
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November 8, 2017 5:48pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  It’s true. 4chan is a shithole of trolls and shills lately. Come to think of it your writing style is familiar
  
  ::removes Nazi flag
  
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  November 8, 2017 6:57pm
realityczech

Like the Nazi [chuckle] Times of Israel ? LOL 🙂

Tell us about how the “Nazi” control the Times of Israel ?

‘PMO stealthily recruiting students for online advocacy’
Government to play behind-the-scenes role in spreading pro-Israel information on social media via universities

http://www.timesofisrael.com/pmo-stealthily-recruiting-students-for-online-advocacy/
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November 8, 2017 7:00pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Oh shit Bolsheviks.
  Or Nazis.
  
  I look forward to a dissertation from you on the difference.
  
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  November 8, 2017 7:09pm
  - realityczech
    
    Yes but first tell us about these “nazi” controlling the Times of Israel ?
    
    Why do Zionists always lie and attack those pointing out the truth ?
    
    Why are they always such disgusting vile dishonest filth ?
    
    Try and answer one question …
    
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    November 8, 2017 7:33pm
  - Jack5
    
    What if …
    
    😎 Kearealityczech’s pro-Islamic, anti-Jewish stance is feigned, a cover-up, a disguise?
    
    (Mountain) parrots are mimics and actors. My hunch is that there’s a good chance that Kearealityczech is a Mossad agent. He’s a sleeper waiting for release of final DNA proof that Maori are the lost tribe of Israel, and that therefore Aotearoa belongs to Tel Aviv.
    
    OR, if he’s just an ordinary agent overplaying his role and disguise, that Kearealityczech’s here for an NZ passport.
    
    Did you hear that Kearealityczech, running heavily into a wall while he had an erection, broke his NOSE!
    
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    November 8, 2017 7:37pm
    - Jack5
      
      A joke about 😎 Kearealityczech, 😎 of Mossad:
      
      https://youtu.be/zkjt9Eo7azM
      
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      November 8, 2017 7:54pm
      - realityczech
        
        How many shekels do you get per post Jacob ?
        
        How many confirmed kills have you scored in your day job this rotation ?
        
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        November 8, 2017 7:58pm
      - Jack5
        
        Hi, 😎 Kearealityczech. 😎
        
        I thought they had thrown the blanket over your cage for the night.
        
        Shekels, eh? Mossad HQ isn’t very careful about covering the trail to you, is it? And you’re moonlighting here because Mossad pay is lousy?
        
        Hang in there, 😎 Kearealityczech, 😎 and you’ll be a Mossad bureau chief some day.
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:05pm
      - realityczech
        
        Do you still get a days bonus leave [for marksmanship] if you bag a kid because they are so small and dart around all the time ?
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:08pm
      - Jack5
        
        URGENT MEMO:
        
        MOSSAD HQ TO: Agent 😎 Kearealityczech 😎
        
        MESSAGE:
        
        ~~You fucking idiot~~ Instruction To Telex operator: That phrase is not to be translated into English and transmitted.
        
        Return to Tel Aviv immediately. You have blown your cover.
        
        Leave the mountain parrot disguise at the embassy.
        
        Also NOT to be translated and transmitted: ~~Do you think we pay you to lurk all day on some bloody blog!~~
        
        MESSAGE AUTHORISED BY: Cold finger
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:16pm
      - realityczech
        
        I can see why they put you in infantry – taking pot shots at kids armed with pebbles – with your level of security awareness.
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:20pm
AgentBallSack

So soyboy Clarke Gaylord was looking after Toothys cat when it roamed onto the road ending up under a car. I suspect planned suicide. Not looking good for a progeny of leftists should they decide to breed.
Cats are a lot easier to replace.
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November 8, 2017 7:05pm
Fletch

I see that the liberal media is falling all over themselves to congratulate the two Labour women in Parliament today nursing/breastfeeding their babies. As others have pointed out, being a mother is a full-time job. So which job are they giving their full attention to? Being a mother, or to the job which taxpayers elected them to do?
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November 8, 2017 7:12pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Next up, Grant breastfeeding Alf
  
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  November 8, 2017 7:17pm
  - stigie
    
    Don’t bite Alf, suck !~
    
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    November 8, 2017 7:39pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    AgentBallSack:
    
    Yesterday Nasska said:
    
    Anyone who says there is no cure for homosexuality has obviously never woken up with a hangover to find themselves sandwiched between Grant & Alf.
    
    Here we are 24 hours later, and I’m still trying to erase that image – only to have you introduce an equally disturbing image into the discussion!
    
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    November 8, 2017 7:40pm
- ex-golfer
  
  Panic not – they’ll be off on their 22-weeks of paid parental leave from next week.
  
  Hang on – that begs the question……they are so enthusiastic about paid parental leave, so why aren’t they on it? I thought it was the best thing for the babies? Won’t someone PLEASE think of the children?
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:04pm
- realityczech
  
  Will Cindy get her tits out in support ?
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:05pm
stigie

We have to harden up Nostra ole chap..?
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November 8, 2017 7:43pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Stigie:
  
  harden up
  
  Tread carefully – Splooge might misinterpret that as an invitation to start waving his 8-inch thingie around!
  
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  November 8, 2017 7:48pm
  - Jack5
    
    Splooge’s “8-inch thingie” is his plastic boat for the bathtub.
    
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    November 8, 2017 7:56pm
    - nasska
      
      AKA sailing the soap dish around a very small horn. 🙂
      
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      November 8, 2017 8:03pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Speaking of bathtub, since Splooge assures us he’s a hit with the ladies (“I get more my fair share of sex, they actually have to wait their turn”), perhaps Penny could go for a splash and have a splashing good time with him?
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:05pm
      - nasska
        
        Splooge could have soul full of hope Nostra.
        
        Whereas……. 🙂
        
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        November 8, 2017 8:12pm
stigie

I have a feeling Gobby has taken to the eight inch thingie with suffering amounts of girth.
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November 8, 2017 8:09pm
- Brito
  
  Now these are personal attacks on two of our minority contributors. I won’t have it….
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:51pm
Nostradamus

The NZ Herald: reporting on the big issues

Britney Spears’ painting sells for $10,000 for shooting victims

Possibly a bargain compared to “The Infamous Beehive Sketch Signed by Helen Clark“, which was recently advertised on Trade Me, without attracting a buyer! Then again… Discarded portrait of former prime minister Helen Clark fetches $1840 for charity.

What’s Helen Clark’s airbrushed image worth these days?
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November 8, 2017 8:32pm
- realityczech
  
  No one wanted to be a party to fraud then ?
  
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  November 8, 2017 8:33pm
nasska

“If you were shipwrecked on a desert island, what’s the one thing you’d like with you Dai?”

“A sheep.”

“Nice. All that lovely roast lamb, mutton broth and some delicious chops will keep you going for ages. Plus the fleece will keep you warm, you can make tools from the bones and you could use the skin for a hammock.”

“Oh yeah, I hadn’t thought of that.”
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November 8, 2017 9:10pm
SPLOOGE

And yet another day has ended with the sun setting and the sky firmly in place.
I reckon this government might have a chance after all.
We should all get behind it for the good of all New Zealanders.

Let’s do this.
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November 8, 2017 9:19pm
- SPLOOGE
  
  Ohh and happy holidays.
  
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  November 8, 2017 9:22pm
  - Jack5
    
    Let’s do this?
    
    From Day 1, the motto is Let’s screw this.
    
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    November 8, 2017 10:10pm
    - realityczech
      
      I’d tap her
      
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      November 8, 2017 10:59pm
  - softail 1450
    
    enjoy your holiday banging that black q7 ,hope you’ve packed viagra .
    
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    November 9, 2017 7:42am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  let’s splooge this
  
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  November 9, 2017 4:02am
Jack5

Has Australia its own political Pocohontas?

Jacquie Lambie, a newcomer to the Australian senate, said in her maiden speech that she was related to, if not descended from, Mannalargenna, a prominent Aboriginal leader of north-eastern Tasmania.

Not only have the family of descendants from Mannalargenna challenged this, but now Lambie may be under threat from the dual citizenship rule because her father was born in Scotland. She is the fifth senator in trouble with Australian electoral requirements on dual citizenship.

In reporting the dual citizenship problem, the Sydney Morning Herald is still describing Lambie, a single mother of two, as an indigenous senator.

Lambie has threatened to sue the Tasmanian aboriginal elder who has challenged whether he is a descendant of Mannalargenna.

Lambie said in her maiden speech:

“”We trace our history over six generations to celebrated Aboriginal chieftain of the Tasmania east coast, Mannalargenna.”

(Senator Elizabeth Warren, of the United States, who has claimed to be of American Indian descent, apparently falsely, was labelled “Pocohontas” by President Trump.)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-08/anger-over-jacqui-lambies-aboriginal-claims/5728622

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/doubts-raised-over-jacqui-lambies-citizenship-status-after-scottish-discovery-20171108-gzhj5a.html
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