General Debate 3 November 2017

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wiseowl

Nash makes an announcement.
Mahuta goes, uh oh how is this going to affect Maori.
Repeat throughout the country.

Continuing the ridiculous situation we have in this country .
Who is going to stop it?
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November 3, 2017 8:05am
- I've been to Mecca and you have not!
  
  Communism has arrived in Aotearoa!
  
  Yayyyyyyyyyyyy
  
  Stride forward comrades. The capitalist class must be crushed!
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:17am
- Paulus
  
  Who is Mahuta ?
  Never heard of her – has she been around for long or is she a new MP ?
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:17am
  - Muttonbird
    
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    She crushed the National Party backed Maori Party in Te Tai Hauāuru (that’s basically Hamilton to you).
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:23am
    - holysheet
      
      Yous bin chowing down onna muttonbirds to much. The fat has addled yous brain cells. The ugly tatted one, despite her cuzzie rooting for the loosing party, beat the racist party candidate.
      
      The cuzzie should have kept out of it.
      
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      November 3, 2017 8:32am
    - flipper
      
      Guano !
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:33am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I think she is the Jenny Craig franchisee for the Ngaruawahia area.
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:27am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Imagine a grotesque tattoed rhinocerous, that’s her.
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:54am
    - GoVege
      
      Nanaia is pretty and has the sweetest smile, reflecting her lovely personality.
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:39am
      - softail 1450
        
        govege, and i figured you detested big slabs of meat vegetable……….
        
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        November 3, 2017 12:37pm
    - Paulus
      
      Not Rhino – Hippo !
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:44am
    - Gabby
      
      That’s your mum crusty gruts.
      
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      November 3, 2017 9:53pm
  - KevOB
    
    Nanaia Mahuta has strong links to the Māori King Movement, being the daughter of Sir Robert Mahuta, who was the adopted son of King Korokī and the elder brother of Māori Queen Te Atairangikaahu. Wikipedia
    
    That women has real mana among Waikato.
    Maori are still 100% tribal so they crush each other.
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:30am
    - starboard
      
      Lol..maori king..* snigger snort* fantasy stuff from the stoneagers.
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:39am
      - Manolo
        
        Yes, the almost illiterate truck driver with high hopes. 🙂
        
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        November 3, 2017 11:22am
      - starboard
        
        Petrols getting expensive I see. The result of a falling dollar. Next up will be increases in mortgage rates and food. Nice one Grant. Let’s NOT do this.
        
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        November 3, 2017 2:49pm
      - GoVege
        
        At least he was working for a living.
        
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        November 3, 2017 8:55pm
- Happychappy
  
  Listen to NZ First make the pig squeal I think it is real funny that for someone always complaining about National and avocating to teach them a lesson now get the same treatment from his Mesiah.
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:28am
- MickMac
  
  Not NZ1st voters
  
  That horse has bolted!
  
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  November 3, 2017 10:28am
Brito

Yesterday was payday for the left wing trolls so they’re probably getting over their WINZ supported hangovers which may explain their absence.
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November 3, 2017 8:05am
- itstricky
  
  How very perceptive. Anyone who makes a leftish statement must be an unemployed dope smoking bludger.
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:19am
  - cmm
    
    Process of elimination.
    
    No other explanation makes any sense at all, except one.
    
    Anyone who makes a leftish statement must:
    *Be an unemployed dope smoking bludger.
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    *Benefits when there is an excess of such bludgers.
    
    Have you seen how happy people were when the Wall came down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snsdDb7KDkg
    
    Thousands of people risked their lives (or even got killed) escaping this, yet we have people that would willingly inflict this on themselves and others.
    
    Wanting communism is not just misinformed. It is a mental illness.
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:31am
    - treadingthemill
      
      Wanting communism is not just misinformed. It is a mental illness.
      
      It is mental illness to suggest that we are in danger of getting communism, or that most people on the New Zealand left want communism, or that Jacinda Ardern is a communist, or that all left wing positions are forms of communism. Those kinds of claims make the pronouncements of regular dope users look very sane by comparison.
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:50am
  - VicParking
    
    Sounds right
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:50am
  - Brito
    
    Yip, you’re a breath of fresh air!!!!
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:08am
  - jcuk
    
    Why does the site not accept positive ticks for this sane comment
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:17am
- Gabby
  
  It’s almost the weekend Bitcho. You start early again?
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:31am
  - softail 1450
    
    grubby has shit the bed again to be commenting this early….wonder what bennie shes on?
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:41am
    - Gabby
      
      softcock has his tits tangled in the chain again – that healing loline’s not built to take the strain softcock.
      
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      November 3, 2017 1:38pm
  - Brito
    
    Vitamins C – check.
    Copious amounts of water – check.
    Paracetamol (4 tabs hrly) – check
    Taxi chit back to WINZ office -check
    Emergency funding application for weekend – check
    Morning after pill – check
    Douche bag – check
    
    Right then Gobby, you’re ready to face Mr Filch at the back of the gym and then you’re free to continue with your sorry, sad life. Enjoy!!!
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:07am
    - Gabby
      
      Bitcho watching the dollar start to rise again, check
      
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      November 3, 2017 1:38pm
      - starboard
        
        Not as long as the 3 headed joke coalition has their dirty greasy hands on the countries chequebook.
        Rank amateurs. Dollars goin south goblet, inflations going up. Buwhahahahaha!!! Amateurs.
        
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        November 3, 2017 1:59pm
      - Brito
        
        Sold at 0.6760 cocksucker. Now we wait for the dead cat to fall back. That’s how it works.
        
        Back to Mr Filch and his merry band.
        
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        November 3, 2017 8:29pm
      - Gabby
        
        Bitcho only had to give .7 of a blowie for his yankeedolla. No happy ending for Bitcho.
        
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        November 3, 2017 9:50pm
- KevOB
  
  Benefit are paid throughout the week.
  
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  November 3, 2017 7:32pm
VicParking

National does not need to do anything as opposition
Rouge Government MP’s and ministers seem to be doing a good job in bringing chaos to the government without help from anyone else.
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November 3, 2017 8:07am
- pdm
  
  Vic – should rouge read rogue?
  
  Just asking.
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:13am
  - VicParking
    
    Thanks pdm. Keep reading one of these days the light will go off and you will get sarcasm.
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:24am
  - kowtow
    
    Rouge as in khmer.
    
    Very apt I’d say.
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:28am
  - softail 1450
    
    “PMD”.. FUCKING SPELLING NAZI.
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:45am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      What’s wrong with them? Some mistakes are just funny, some are clever, some are predictive text, and some are just WRONG!!
      
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      November 3, 2017 2:41pm
    - suzieq
      
      Nothing wrong with expecting standards … Contributors who can’t spell or don’t have at least a nodding acquaintance with grammar don’t seem to realise that the mangled results diminish the value of the contribution they’re trying to make. And for most KB posters, that’s a huge shame.
      
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      November 3, 2017 3:27pm
- cmm
  
  No it is a Red Government.
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:16am
- Herodotus
  
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  National did crap all when in govt so why change ?
  And the economy is tanking thanks to this inaction. Just spend 3 days with the result of placing a couple of building coys on stop credit, so no building materials for them. Pity the Nats did not win that last election, so they could fix the broken economy that they where the masters in making.
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:35am
  - softail 1450
    
    HERODOTUS,3 days ,get a new lawyer he/she
    is scraping you..
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:49am
  - Lance
    
    Nurse!!!!
    
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    November 3, 2017 10:20am
- hullkiwi
  
  Vic, careful you have prompted a memo from Uber commissariat’s office (H2).
  
  “All new ministers must attend immediate news media communications training.”
  
  In précis form the training is: learn to shut the fuck up & stop going on Red Radio Morning Report and looking like a possum caught in the lights of the on coming vehicle.
  
  Three mornings in a row Red Radio have been doing the oppositions bidding.
  This morning, step up Iain Lees Galloway answering question a bout the refugees on Manu’s Island. Esypinor side swiped with the comments of Angry Andy. And his meek reply was, “the PM will be having a conversation with Mr Turnbull this weekend, it’ll be top of the agenda & our offer to take 150 refugees (the previous government’s off, which Liebore/Greens said was inadequate in 2016) is still on the table.
  
  So how long will it be before cluster fuck ministers start to avoid appearing on current affairs programmes without a minder?
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:48am
  - VicParking
    
    I notice as soon as the hard questions arrived his cell phone cut out.
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:04am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Yes so did I, mind you there were some vague comments about Palmerston North.
      But it is a strange bit of irony when Red Radio Morning Report is already starting to do the Bats job.
      Just as long as that leftist arrogant Kim Hill doesn’t get to fill in for Ferguson.
      
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      November 3, 2017 9:16am
    - GazzaW
      
      H2 hit the off button before he made a bigger galah of himself.
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:00am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Yes GW, the more exposure the better. This week has shown just how anonymous the idiots of the cluster fuck have been. It also highlights how lazy the MSM are. Given what I’ve heard this week, it will not be long before one of the idiots walks into a bear trap of their own making.
        
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        November 3, 2017 10:21am
  - KevOB
    
    Encourage them. Let the new ministers all speak freely. Let new policies abound–there’s money somewhere for all.
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:40am
cha

I guess in the next day or two we’re going to learn something about new Milo.

“I supported Milo Yiannopoulos in the hope and expectation that his expression of views contrary to the social mainstream and his spotlighting of the hypocrisy of those who would close down free speech in the name of political correctness would promote the type of open debate and freedom of thought that is being throttled on many American college campuses today.”

“But, in my opinion, actions of and statements by Mr. Yiannopoulos have caused pain and divisiveness undermining the open and productive discourse that I had hoped to facilitate. I was mistaken to have supported him, and for several weeks have been in the process of severing all ties with him.”

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/robert-mercer-i-regret-supporting-milo-yiannopoulos-and-im-cutting-off-his-funding/article/2639401
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November 3, 2017 8:10am
- Victor Omega
  
  Bob’s a tired old man borrowing leftist media name calling. He will enjoy a quieter life away from the heat of the culture war. Milo will be fine.
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:27am
- Ed Snack
  
  Nasty case of homophobia you have there cha.
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:54am
  - cha
    
    #MeToo climate Ed….
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:00am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Goose, Gander, sauce etc, some reassembly required.
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:32am
      - cha
        
        I doubt Mr Mercer got to where he is today without being well ahead of the curve.
        
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        November 3, 2017 11:17am
      - Victor Omega
        
        Yeah, Soros is way ahead of curve, losing billions backing antifa and that failure HRC.
        
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        November 3, 2017 11:30am
Paulus

A few of us old fogies were maturing over a beer yesterday and the subject arose as to Cindy’s meeting with Turnbull on Sunday and a considered view came something like this.
It is known that the Aussies want to revise the CER agreement as they believe it favours New Zealand – which it appears to do, and we find no favour at all with the Australian view of New Zealanders as is seen by sending our criminals back to New Zealand.
Cindy says she will do something about the way that New Zealanders are treated there – she is right.
But it is said that she will raise the subject of Manus Island “refugees” as New Zealand has offered to take 150 and Australia has said no way as this is a backdoor to Australia – which it is as we give residency and citizenship very freely.
The new Government (Greens) are pushing for 5,000 refugees.
Turnbull could agree that we do whatever we like in this and many other transtasman arrangements as a result of which Australia will renegotiate the CER in many ways but including the cancellation of the current travel agreement.
Australia will wef…….make legislation that all people from New Zealand into Australia will have to have visas in advance. Naturally Australia will reciprocate with New Zealand visas for their visitors.
Now that sorts out the Manus Island and our other immigration problems once and for all.
We believe in principle that Australia has been looking for some time to do this, and Cindy’s public belligerence as she has expressed towards Australia will materialise.
She is naive really and is being pushed by the hard left of the Greens.
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November 3, 2017 8:15am
- cmm
  
  Pretty cool “refugee” deal really… row out from Indonesia is an old boat.
  
  Aussie coastguard picks you up, gives you a feed and new clothing and takes to to Manus.
  
  NZ sends a plane to pick you up, flies you to NZ , gives you a house and the dole.
  
  This thinking has fucked up Europe, but I’m sure will work fine in NZ because Jacinda does better selfies than Angela.
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:22am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    They might also get along because . . .
    Jazza looks like she washed up in an old boat herself.
    
    She’s under forty and Hulun’s a woman. Get out of here.
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:25am
  - VicParking
    
    I can’t see anything wrong with bringing the 600 here. Bring them in, give them a NZ passport then send ship them straight to Sydney. No need for them to even leave Auckland Airport.
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:28am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      CER working at it’s best. Oz will love it. Good simple thinking to solve the problem
      
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      November 3, 2017 8:42am
    - hullkiwi
      
      That is exactly why Australia won’t give us the 150 we offered to take.
      I think what you suggest is a perfectly good solution, with 1 qualification, being: when they leave NZ & enter another country, their NZ residency/citizenship/status is cancelled immediately.
      
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      November 3, 2017 8:53am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    New Zealand needs to understand that if it allows Australian-seeking queue-jumpers to use it as a back door to Oz, then Australia will simply tighten up on visa procedures to their country.
    How hard can that be for the NZ government to figure out?
    Has New Zealand no sense of health & safety and quality control when it comes to the people it lets in?
    I find it so surreal that such a clipboard-carrying fluoro-vest-wearing, scaffolding-addicted nation can at the same time be so reckless when it comes to the quality of its most important asset–its people.
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:04am
    - MH
      
      If only we had a kiwi citizen in Oz gubbermint…..
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:58am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      Not really – they’re like blokes taking home drunk fat chicks at 4am. They’ll do anything and anyone.
      
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      November 3, 2017 4:28pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  What benefit (other than “feels”) does NZ gain from taking on the young men of Manu Island?
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:52am
  - RalphT
    
    Oh, come on there are countless benefits; here are a few to start
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    November 3, 2017 9:10am
  - Rich Prick
    
    “Refugees” are bling to socialists. You just have to have some. The more third world, diseased and psychologically troubled the better.
    
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    November 3, 2017 11:04am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    NZ gets the benefit of these third worlders then applying to bring in their uncountable extended family tree of zillions. 150 turns into 1 500.
    
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    November 3, 2017 4:30pm
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Why does NZ even have to get involved?
  Can someone explain to me how Australia’s refugee problem us somehow NZ business?
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:58am
  - Paulus
    
    Cos New Zealand can be seen by the UN and other
    do gooder agencies to be great social warriors and saviours of the world.
    How else can you get a job with the UN.
    
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    November 3, 2017 10:51am
    - sooty
      
      But she did not, out on her arse. H2 had to tear herslf away six months later. Maybe she had to stay behind to sell the house.
      
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      November 3, 2017 11:59am
  - GoVege
    
    Because Australia is our neighbour and we are not as heartless to refugees as their government is?
    
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    November 3, 2017 1:26pm
    - suzieq
      
      Who says they’re refugees? Have they been deemed such by UNHCR? I understood they were economic migrants and all young men.
      
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      November 3, 2017 3:33pm
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Hold on GoVege.
      
      They are not our refugees. They are Australia’s. Can you explain to me with facts, not feelings. Why we need to get involved? What will change for NZ if we simply stay out of our neighbours internal affairs?
      
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      November 3, 2017 4:37pm
      - GoVege
        
        My nephew in Oz works with some boat people and says they are nice and very hard working.
        We need hard-working young people here.
        Just make sure they don’t hold conservative Islamic values.
        
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        November 3, 2017 9:02pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Ah but PU. The Commie Chick said it is our duty of care. You can’t make this shit up as fast as she blurts it out.
    
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    November 4, 2017 12:15am
oldpark

The joke that will keep on giving. Watching the Peters Party voting against the small Superannuation increases for his loyal fixed income Gold Card over 65s holders. The Peters Party were part of the legislation that was made law in early 2017.
The reason Peters Party will be chiselling the poor old pensioners off their extra few dollars it is to ensure that a Billion Dollar bribe to tertiary students for votes is satisfied.
Listening to the guy called Hipkins say Quote “He was not too worried if the students who took up the first year free education were drop outs ,not a worry”.
More culpability for the Peters Party,to even allow such a default moron to make such an arrogant comment. Maybe a Billion Dollars for clowns like Hipkins to say that ,is really an indictment that where that type of taxpayers money will come from,is just a start.
Thanks Winston for your input, you certainly will make NZ proud. Where would NZ be without you or your input.
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November 3, 2017 8:15am
- sooty
  
  Where is Winston? Is he on the first of his baubles, overseas somewhere?
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:32am
  - pdm
    
    Isn’t he going to see Turnbull with Taxcinda?
    
    Will be getting his wardrobe ready if he is.
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:54am
    - VicParking
      
      Sullivans Cove Whiskey will be increasing production in anticipation of his arrival.
      
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      November 3, 2017 9:09am
    - holysheet
      
      Nah the drunken dwarf will not go anywhere unless they have installed those mirrors that make you look taller than you really are.
      His beehive office is being changed as we speak. There is a shortage of them in NZ
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:17am
      - Twinkletoes
        
        chortle!
        
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        November 3, 2017 3:31pm
    - sooty
      
      Custom made in Hong Kong or such after the rejuvenation blood transfussions etc. To bounce back after a crueling election campaign. Needs to front foot for Nov 8.
      
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      November 3, 2017 12:05pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Grueling, cruel to the rest of us, indeed ;). Cruella?
        
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        November 3, 2017 3:47pm
  - softail 1450
    
    sooty…yes where is the little shite? ,its infuriating actually, he made his deal and now hes fucked off somewhere out off sight.
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:56am
  - Prince
    
    Wonder if he is undertaking some medical treatment.
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:16am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      requiring regular applications of alcohol to the affected area?
      
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      November 3, 2017 9:38am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Very likely Prince.
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:03am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yep, fits with rumours I heard, and not a good prognosis. Could be wrong….
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:33am
      - sooty
        
        Chickee baby is in the shit if he falls off the perch.
        
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        November 3, 2017 12:07pm
    - Paulus
      
      Winston – it is very possible he is resting, as he is not in the best of health having succumbed to his lifestyle.
      I doubt we will hear much from him in the future.
      He has f…ked up his country – and I am sure he is proud of that fact, and that Cindy will ensure he gets a state funeral at the appropriate time and a posthumous knighthood before Helen cancels them again when she becomes President after she becomes Governor General first to sign the new Palmer TOW Constitution and we become a new Republic.
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:56am
  - Lance
    
    I just about spit my coffee out while watching the AM show this morning.
    A US improv comedian was being interviewed. They showed him a picture of Winston Peters.
    He said ” He has clearly had a long and successful career as a model for Italian suppositories, Innuendo’s “
    
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    November 3, 2017 10:27am
    - Gabby
      
      Was it quite an old comic lants? That joke was on a wall in Pompeii.
      
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      November 3, 2017 1:44pm
  - RF
    
    Short arse is preparing for his first class flight to Melbourne to attend the cup.
    
    All on us.
    
    Little runt….
    
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    November 3, 2017 7:04pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Great, I get to pay for drop outs. It’s time these useless students were told ‘get a haircut and get a real job. A degree in political science or social services is just bullshit, Uni for the dole
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:46am
  - fernglas
    
    The best suggestion I have seen was on this blog, where one of the commentators said it is the final year that should be free. Same effect, i.e. reduction in student debt, but given to those who actually deserve it rather than anyone who comes along.
    
    Further query. What amounts to “tertiary” these days? Is it just Universities, and if so, what types of courses?
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:55am
    - RalphT
      
      It will basically be most study post secondary school, not just universities but also polytechs, wananga, some of the private establishments and apprenticeships. The danger is that the unis and polys will wind up with a number of people who aren’t really up to tertiary study, but will end up wasting a year of their life finding that out. And costing us, of course.
      
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      November 3, 2017 9:14am
      - KevOB
        
        That is why student loans came about.
        
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        November 3, 2017 9:46am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      Better to retire the debt as they work and pay tax. Then if they don’t work or go overseas, they still owe the full amount.
      
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      November 3, 2017 9:45am
    - cha
      
      What amounts to “tertiary” these days?
      
      Third in order, primary, secondary, tertiary…
      
      The sequence continues with quaternary, quinary, senary, septenary, octonary, nonary, and denary, although most of these terms are rarely used.
      
      https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/explore/what-comes-after-primary-secondary-tertiary
      
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      November 3, 2017 9:53am
    - Maxx
      
      Don’t forget that the original plan was to have 3 years free but they realised the money wasn’t there to do this. Watch as 1 turns into 2, 2 turns into 3 as this is rolled out to “encourage” student voter turnout each election.
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:18am
      - Paulus
        
        Thought it is to “FREE” ultimately for at least three years beginning year by year from 1st January 2018.
        All tertiary education – ie anything with any institution after college.
        Will help keep unemplyent down for three years until they try and find a job – or continue further “education”.
        
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        November 3, 2017 11:02am
      - sooty
        
        A certificate in basket weaving or kite flying, does not cut the mustard.
        
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        November 3, 2017 12:10pm
    - suzieq
      
      Good question. Who pays for apprenticeships? The youngsters or their employers? Anyone know?
      
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      November 3, 2017 3:35pm
Jack5

Britain continues to reap diversity dividends.

More paedophilia, rape.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5044031/Somerset-authorities-missed-14-chances-stop-child-abuse.html
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November 3, 2017 8:19am
- kowtow
  
  They really have betrayed their own citizens.
  
  “The Home Office has ‘lost’ track of 56,000 foreigners who faced being thrown out of the UK – including hundreds of criminals, it has emerged.”
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5043829/The-Home-Office-lost-track-56-000-foreigners.html
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:36am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Is ‘lost track’ code for not naming known terrorists for fear of offending Islam?
    
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    November 3, 2017 8:52am
    - kowtow
      
      Offending Islam?
      
      After every Muslim terror atrocity in the west the MSM go to any length to report the peaceful , it’s not us that’s the problem Muslim perspective ,when the terror comes straight out of the Koran and the life and times of the perfect Muslim , the prophet of peace Mohammed.
      
      Here , they’re baffled by the beard . Eight dead , 12 injured and it’s the beard that’s baffling!
      
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-attack-uzbekistan-neighborho/new-yorks-uzbeks-unnerved-by-bearded-attack-suspect-idUSKBN1D202W
      
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      November 3, 2017 9:05am
flipper

VERY important comment late yesterday by W English in relation to Parliament and Select Committees: “It is not our job to make this place work”
He added comments on National being the “strongest opposition ever” and that any procedural problems had been brought about by the fact that there is minority Government”

Sounds like the wagons are circling and there is no cavalry available. Oh dear. What a pity!
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November 3, 2017 8:32am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Quite so flipper. The Labour/NZF/Green coalition is going to have its work cut out getting all its legislation through the select committee process.
  
  Of course, they could always bypass the select committee process by passing legislation under urgency. Unfortunately though, all three parties have been vocally opposed whenever National used urgency, and we all know the Left could never indulge in hypocrisy…
  
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  November 3, 2017 9:23am
MCos

The baseball World Series was rather scintillating this year with some nail biting games, except for the finale yesterday which was a bit flat unless you were a Houston Astros fan.
My sister is off to Houston for a few days next week. That’s exciting, I told her, they’ve just won the World Series. What’s that, she said?
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November 3, 2017 8:33am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Yes; another cracking series.
  
  A year ago, SWMBO and I were in Chicago with the All Blacks, when the Cubs came from 1-3 down to win the World Series in Game Seven at Cleveland. We watched Game Seven in a bar in town, and it was the most fantastic experience. Two days later we were part of a crowd estimated at more than 5 million celebrating the Cubs’ first World Series in 108 years.
  
  It was a week we will always treasure, even with the disappointment of the All Blacks losing to a fired-up Irish side.
  
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  November 3, 2017 9:27am
Maggy Wassilieff

Coincidence?
Maltese policeman suspended for tweeting about
Top Maltese investigative journalist killed by car bomb shares same surname as Mystery Professor

https://www.politico.eu/blogs/on-media/2017/10/murder-malta-journalist-daphne-caruana-galizia-joseph-muscat/

Mystery Professor – Maltese
https://lovinmalta.com/news/news-breaking/mystery-maltese-professor-in-trump-russia-case-has-dropped-interest-in-malta-campus
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November 3, 2017 8:40am
- fernglas
  
  It’s a small country with not many surnames, says the Times of Malta:
  “76 per cent of the population – 307,886 people – share the same 100 surnames.”
  
  On a darker note, the surname Mifsud means “damaged” or “spoiled”, finding its origins in Aramaic, then Hebrew to Arabic.
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:57am
- hullkiwi
  
  Sorry to say, but from what I’ve read not unexpected. That is the wonders of justice in a modern EU state. Systemic corruption not a problem, but anybody involved in embarrassing an EU govt or its allies you stand no chance.
  
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  November 3, 2017 9:04am
  - kowtow
    
    Are you saying they won’t stoop to taking a bribe but will murder?
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:15am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Just ask the UK secret service how Dr David Kelly, who apparently committed suicide by cutting his wrists was such a clean bleeder. Nothing to see here, now move along….
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:28am
DifferentPerspective

DPF to post about Clinton corruption? Tui ad

Speaking of lying despots, I’m looking forward to a comment from our esteemed host about the ever increasing cascade of revelations about the real lying, despot in US politics now that Donna Brazille (you know the Democrat chairperson who leaked the first presidential debate questions to Hillary when she was a “special advisor” on the highly honest and trusted CNN) has shopped Hillary for rigging the DNC nomination against Bernie.

I wonder how long it’s going to be now before poor old Donna has a totally random and not at all suspicious fatal “accident” too.

Crickets?
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November 3, 2017 8:55am
- cha
  
  How does the party apparatus rig the nomination against a candidate who’s never been a member of the party?.
  
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  November 3, 2017 9:05am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Funny, he WAS running as a Democrat, perhaps hios party membership “got lost in the post” ?
    
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    November 3, 2017 10:35am
    - cha
      
      His own house bio says he’s the longest serving independent member of Congress in American history and despite never fund raising or standing as a Democrat, the party had no say in the matter.
      
      If they self identify and campaign, candidates can be whoever they want to be, Democrat or a Republican.
      
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      November 3, 2017 10:55am
      - All_on_Red
        
        That true. In Congress he was an Independent.
        However when he ran for President, he became a Democrat.
        After he lost, he rejoined Congress as an Independent.
        So, yes, as a Democrat running for the Democrat nomination for President it looks like he was cheated.
        ‘] Running as a Democrat made it easier to participate in debates and get his name on state ballots.[9]’
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign,_2016
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        Senator Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent, announced Thursday that he was running for president as a Democrat, injecting a progressive voice into the contest and providing Hillary Rodham Clinton with her first official rival for the party’s nomination.
        https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/30/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-for-president.html
        
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        November 3, 2017 1:55pm
- dime
  
  im a bit disappointed in DPF for never commenting on the evil clintons.
  
  even when his washington compost srites about the bad shit they got up to with the russian, its crickets..
  
  but if some guy who vaguely knows trump bad mouths him, we get a post.
  
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  November 3, 2017 9:48am
  - holysheet
    
    I am with you dime, the silence is deafening………
    
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    November 3, 2017 11:02am
- tom hunter
  
  DPF is also ignoring stuff like this:
  
  Twitter buried significant portions of tweets related to hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chair John Podesta in the last two months of the 2016 presidential campaign.
  
  Twitter’s systems hid 48 percent of tweets using the #DNCLeak hashtag and 25 percent of tweets using #PodestaEmails, Twitter general counsel Sean Edgett said in his written testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.
  
  You’d think an Internet thing like this would really get DPF’s juices flowing, not to mention the execs from Google and Facebook getting their butts hauled over the coals during their Washington D.C. testimony.
  
  But I guess National 2020 is more important.
  
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  November 3, 2017 9:59am
  - Manolo
    
    DPF is 100% political establishment. Please do not rock the boat talking about the Clintons or other dignitaries…
    
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    November 3, 2017 11:25am
- RF
  
  Nah. Donna will be found with 3 shots in the back of the head and this will be deemed to be a suicide.
  
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  November 3, 2017 7:11pm
labrator

How long before this headline (Change doesn’t come cheap and it’s the poor who’ll pay) is buried? Can’t have anything negative about the policies the country didn’t want…

Why do Labour hate the poor? I’m sure they’ll be able to buy a house when they loose your job to automation, can’t afford to drive their car from Takanini to Avondale but at least in 5 years time office workers can commute from Kumeu to the CBD without having to use that pesky 10 lane motorway.
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November 3, 2017 8:58am
VicParking

I’m sick of local government complaing about not having enough money to undertake functions that are NOT their responsibility. If the roads had no potholes, the drinking water was reliable and clean, wastewater was disposed of efficently, my rubbish was not left to blow around the street and they did not bloat with staff maybe they could spend ‘six pence’ on an art gallery. Providing thousands of dollars of my rates to take in illegal immigrants is not their job.
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November 3, 2017 9:00am
- hullkiwi
  
  Vic, you’re asking a bit much there mate! First of all how much do you think that our democratically elected councillors know about running anything? Most of them you wouldn’t leave running a bath, yet they are elected to provide executive oversight over enterprises that spend in a week more money than some will see in their lifetimes.
  Second, you have to remember the whole system must stay in perpetual state of expansion. This soothes the inflated egos of the politicians & ensures the bureaucrats have jobs for lives.
  Third, the bigger the council gets, the less chance there is of a local pleb (like you & me) interfering in whatever they are doing.
  Fourth, at no point must a job/task ever be finished. Else there will be no reason to collect rates, and the network of politicians and bureaucrats will all be out of jobs.
  
  What you will never here a central or local government body say:
  1. What is statutory purpose? Is this organisation doing more than it should be doing under statute?
  2. Did this organisation achieve its goals?
  3. Did we live within our budget, and if so, have we got money to give back to the ratepayers/taxpayers?
  4. Who really will stand up for and be public ally accountable for the successes or failures of the organisation.
  
  Sorry to go on, but I ‘be worked on a number of projects in the public sector and always been confronted with same core questions.
  
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  November 3, 2017 11:05am
  - VicParking
    
    Wise words HullKiwi
    
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    November 3, 2017 2:40pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      Thanks Vic. My frustration is I live in Auckland Supercity & there is nothing about it that provides true local government accountability. In my past I was engaged by an English County Council & there I saw too much of what I wrote about above. Walking through some of the corridors of County Hall & just seeing the names of some of the departments just did your head in & made the blood boil. And just like in the NZ situation with the recently defeated Labourlite govt, this was a Tory administration in a very Tory County.
      
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      November 3, 2017 3:35pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Providing thousands of dollars of my rates to take in illegal immigrants is not their job.
  
  But they file it under ‘waste clean-up’. . .
  
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  November 3, 2017 7:39pm
softail 1450

DP, you know hillary is in trouble when people like brazille start speaking out,even if it is to excuse her own despicable behavior .
we may actually at last see the downfall of the most corrupt political family in the entire developed world,,yeee haaa.
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November 3, 2017 9:05am
DifferentPerspective

Swedish Diversity Dividend – statutory rape and incest is legal

OMG – bringing in muslim refugees leads to this kind of future.

12 year old Syrian girl refugee was forced to marry her cousin and Swedish judge says it’s legal because “diversity”.

And I thought Hollywood liberals were the sickest people on the planet! I guess Swedish judges win that contest.
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November 3, 2017 9:06am
- cha
  
  I guess Swedish judges win that contest.
  
  Nah, it’s a tie.
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/02/10/why-does-the-united-states-still-let-12-year-old-girls-get-married/
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state#/media/File:Cousin_marriage_map1.svg
  
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  November 3, 2017 9:10am
  - MCos
    
    Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old third cousin back in the fifties. He has had six more different wives over the years, but never different in laws.
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:26am
    - sooty
      
      You would not ask for more motherinlaws, would you. It’s like turkeys voting for an early christmas.
      
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      November 3, 2017 12:16pm
      - MCos
        
        My first mother in law was one of the loveliest women a bloke could hope for. Second one died before I had a chance to meet her.
        
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        November 3, 2017 12:28pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The Swedish judge is a multiculturalist who believes that all cultures are equivalent.
  Who are Swedes to judge that their national laws for the protection of minors are any better than traditional Syrian tribal customs?
  
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  November 3, 2017 10:00am
  - Inandout
    
    Sweden has a death wish and no one can help them. At least I don’t buy Volvo.
    
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    November 3, 2017 11:41am
    - Paulus
      
      Don’t fret Volvo is now Chinese.
      
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      November 3, 2017 1:39pm
  - Digmen1
    
    They even have to protect their police now, as they are under attack by the peaceful islamic people they let in to destroy their country.
    
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    November 3, 2017 12:13pm
Prince

So while Samoans battle Tongans in Sth Auckland, Ardern is off to accept 150 Sudan refugees (and start a new round of boat people coming in their footsteps).
I hope the Aussies stand firm. They know these refugees will move to Australia once they have an NZ passport.
We have enough racial tension bubbling away without adding these manipulative ‘refugees’ to the mix.
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November 3, 2017 9:27am
- Paulus
  
  Saw it whilst in Samoa many years ago (on business) – there had been a Rugby match and the “after match” dinner for the teams and officials. Top hotel- almost riots took place and despite pleas from the Chiefs tension was rife throughout the whole evening close to very physical.
  Nothing new, I was told, been happening for many years.
  I would rather not be near Hamilton tomorrow -the police have warned that the motorway south/north may be chaos
  
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  November 3, 2017 11:11am
Muttonbird

Looks like the wife of the hairpiece failed again. All that money on lawyers and not a cent back when she could have taken $100K had she not been so politically motivated.

And the now deceased hairpiece didn’t even get his name cleared. He’s still crooked!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98475675/hagaman-estate-loses-appeal-against-andrew-little-in-defamation-case
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November 3, 2017 9:28am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Defame the dead at your own peril.
  
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  November 3, 2017 10:28am
  - sooty
    
    Especially when they have more money than you.
    
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    November 3, 2017 12:19pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Just ask Taxcinda’s father shall we?
  
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  November 3, 2017 11:09am
  - RF
    
    He is an ex cop on the pay roll of the Hagermans.
    
    I bet he is not proud of his commie daughter.
    
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    November 3, 2017 10:14pm
- Ed Snack
  
  I like your approach, take a decision that basically says that Little defamed Hagaman and maliciously so, but the claim failed because the court ruled that Little (for some reason which I can’t find in the relevant law, but hey, we get the Judiciary Margaret Wilson decided we deserved) gets special protection as a politician – and segue that into an affirmation of the fact the Hagaman was crooked.
  
  The correct interpretation is that Little is a flagrant liar who gets protected because he’s a politician.
  
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  November 3, 2017 11:10am
- Paulus
  
  Disgraceful judgement- but getting now typical.
  
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  November 3, 2017 11:12am
  - fernglas
    
    What’s disgraceful about it? Apart from the fact that you don’t like the outcome?
    Don’t forget that Little was cleared of defaming Mrs H and the jury couldn’t decide on 4 causes of action re Mr H. Mr H then died and the Court says the case doesn’t survive his death, which has been the law for centuries. So at best the question of whether Little defamed Mr H. was up in the air. Or was the jury’s decision disgraceful as well?
    
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    November 3, 2017 11:18am
    - KevOB
      
      If we don’t respect the rule of law how can we take on Jacinda’s mob?
      
      Proceedings don’t usually continue after the respondent dies or is liquidated. I put a company into liquidation to terminate an action scheduled for hearing. It distressed the lawyers on both sides who had made a mountain of fees out of the imbroglio.
      
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      November 3, 2017 7:39pm
Stars And Stripes

Six arrests in Otara brawl involving 200 people
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/342986/six-arrests-in-otara-brawl-involving-200-people
“Six people were arrested over a brawl among 200 people, some carrying poles and sticks and one with a machete, police say.
Police say a crowd of up to 200 Samoan and Tongan fans gathered in a carpark near the Manukau Institute of Technology in Otara last night.
“It was major disorder”, said Superintendent Sandra Manderson”.

The diversity dividend has been giving generously this week out in savage country and shows no sign of abating.
Maybe they should all be sent to the Manus Humanitarian and Reconciliation Centre to help in the dig for water as I’m sure they could do with some extra manpower.
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November 3, 2017 9:34am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Yeah, animals.
  
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  November 3, 2017 9:41am
- MCos
  
  Nothing compared to the football related violence in Europe, UK & South America.
  
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  November 3, 2017 11:21am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    Because we need any sports related violence?
    
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    November 3, 2017 12:18pm
    - MCos
      
      Rugby without the violence wouldn’t be worth watching
      
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      November 3, 2017 12:44pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  I feel sorry for the half and halves – everyone would kick the shit out of them.
  
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  November 3, 2017 7:33pm
Swifty

Thank heavens for Moniqua Reid, student, Starbucks worker and organiser for Unite (and barely out of her teens) – for putting me straight on the effects of Labour’s planned increases in minimum wage laws.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/98411308/Minimum-wage-rise-of-almost-30-per-cent-in-four-years-worries-business-owners

Not an economist, not an employer, no life experience of any substance yet – but she believes she can accurately predict economic outcomes far in to the future!

Oh, and for a real mind-fuck have a look at one of her Facebook videos, dated Oct 9 – ‘What is Capitalism?’ (Note, these are NZers)

https://www.facebook.com/moniqua.reid

Jesus wept.
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November 3, 2017 9:36am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Why are all the SJWs and activists so fat and unhealthy looking?
  It is as if their political views and incessant activism are a symptom of some sort of illness. Possibly mental.
  
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  November 3, 2017 9:49am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Perhaps the SJWs and activists are driven by their “feels” rather than any higher-level cognitive activity.
    
    The rational man: “Cogito, ergo sum.”
    The SJW: “I feel, therefore I am.”
    
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    November 3, 2017 10:05am
  - dime
    
    they are bitter, nasty people who join a group of other bitter nasties.
    
    whoever said fat chicks are jolly is a fucking liar.
    
    fat chicks are bitter and nasty!
    
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    November 3, 2017 10:21am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes to the bone.
      
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      November 3, 2017 11:09am
  - Brito
    
    Socialism is a sickness.
    
    It drives parts of the reptilian brain which focus on aggression (flight or fright), sexual drive, and eating. When the sexual drive satisfaction levels are not met then aggression and mindless eating come to the fore.
    
    Outcome…fat,angry women.
    
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    November 3, 2017 10:24am
    - MrLovebucket
      
      Socialism is just “applied jealousy”
      
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      November 3, 2017 12:00pm
    - Digmen1
      
      What I would like to know is why men give these fat ugly obese women more children!
      
      I would be ashamed to be seen with one.
      
      (Of course the same goes for obese men who cant even waddle to work)
      
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      November 3, 2017 12:16pm
      - Padriv Ustoev
        
        There are some hungry men out there. Do anything for some punani.
        
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        November 3, 2017 12:20pm
bmiddler

The only way to stop all this nonsense of free education (as if no one pays for it),is to show it up for what it is.
Affirmative action!
I have never been to university,I left school at 16,worked harder than most,have been successful and have paid quite large amounts of income tax throughout my career.
As soon as the details of this policy are known,and if i am able,i will enrol for my free years education.
My first impulse was to take a bachelor of treeplanting,obviously a growth industry,or perhaps flaxweaving,to touch base with my maori roots.
But after thinking about it i might do a course in European history.
If we all do this,we can put an end to this pork barrel vote gathering,instead of watching it slowly sapping our countries energy.
Or we can winge and complain,do it now!
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November 3, 2017 10:00am
- VicParking
  
  Sorry you won’t find a course in European history.
  They were all deemed racist.
  
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  November 3, 2017 2:50pm
wreck1080

Jacinda wants to emulate Germanys immigration failures.

Some say it is important to learn history to avoid repeating mistakes.

Not Jacinda. She wants to copy mistakes.
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November 3, 2017 10:07am
Andrei

LOL Facebook and Twitter define posts as Russia linked if you ever have used
RU Email ✔
RU Phone
RU Credit
Ru IP ✔
RU as a declared country
Used Cyrillic ✔

So I am officially ” Russia Linked”

And so is this post now – Андрей

P.S> Maggy is another one because I’ve caught her using Cyrillic on this blog even if her Russian name in mangled
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November 3, 2017 10:08am
- Ross12
  
  It’s all falling apart Andrei.
  Clinton has admitted the DNC paid for the dossier plus her other comments suggest she is losing the plot.
  http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/hillary-defends-paying-fake-russia-dossier-lying-months-video/
  As others mention above Brazile has effectively thrown the DNC/Clinton under the bus in her book
  “In her new book, “Hacks: The Inside Story of the Break-ins and Breakdowns that Put Donald Trump in the White House,” admits the Clinton campaign engaged in “essentially … money laundering,” where state parties were sucked dry to fund her failed presidential effort.”
  
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  November 3, 2017 10:20am
  - Ross12
    
    Much more detail in a Politico article by Brazile
    
    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
    
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    November 3, 2017 10:33am
- hullkiwi
  
  Andrei,
  Dobra dyen (no Cyrillic script).
  What about:
  1. Was taught Russian at school by commie Dutchman;
  2. Been to Russia a few times – including Siberia, and staying in dodgy St Petersburg hotel that was formerly Leningrad town hall, and then had to take phone off the hook, because of continuous calls from St Petersburg’s finest ladies?
  
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  November 3, 2017 11:16am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  ублюдки!
  
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  November 3, 2017 11:24am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    because I’ve caught her using Cyrillic on this blog
    
    Catch me again.
    
    Oh dear, do you think THEY have twigged to my REAL identity?
    
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    November 3, 2017 12:15pm
    - Andrei
      
      But are you getting your roubles or do you work for kopeks ?
      
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      November 3, 2017 1:10pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Yellowcake is the usual form of payment, these days.
        
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        November 3, 2017 2:05pm
      - Andrei
        
        I hear giving speeches to Oligarchs in Moscow can be very lucrative if you can get the gig – the pay isn’t in Kopeks, or even Rubles but in US Dollars – the going rate is a cool 500k if you have the right wife.
        
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        November 3, 2017 2:16pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    It’s a proper bastard having to use Cyrillic, eh Maggy?
    
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    November 3, 2017 12:17pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      конечно
      
      That’s why Kazakhstan is going Latin.
      https://worldview.stratfor.com/the-hub/kazakhstan-switch-cyrillic-latin
      
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      November 3, 2017 3:37pm
    - Andrei
      
      It’s a proper bastard having to use Cyrillic
      
      Нет!
      
      Cyrillic makes more sense – How do you say Celtic for example Keltik or Seltik – see it is so dumb the same letter can have two different meanings in one word if you choose the later
      
      And why do you need “qu” as in Queen when you say Kween
      
      And “G” is messy too as on Goat versus Giant –
      why not jiant?
      
      And why isn’t elephant elefant?
      
      Cyrillic which should be Kyrillik is muч more сenсible!
      
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      November 3, 2017 4:15pm
cmm

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/98512910/canterbury-port-hills-fires-response-confused-with-bad-public-communication–independent-review

Fucking unions made the Port Hills fire worse.

The unions have made such a toxic relationship with rural firefighters that they cannot work together properly. The unions were undermining the efforts of the rural firefighters even while the fires were still going.

Nett result: the firefighters’ union put their ideology ahead of fighting the fire and doing their job.
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November 3, 2017 10:35am
- cha
  
  Roger Estall.
  
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  November 3, 2017 11:00am
Jack5

Pussy judge gives wet-bus-ticket sentence to man who treated cows cruelly. Pity he couldn’t have had the offender flogged, to get a taste of what he did.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/98491323/Farmer-given-home-detention-for-breaking-an-unknown-number-of-cows-tails
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November 3, 2017 10:55am
kowtow

Wow those “Swedes” are a dangerous lot!

“The strongest evidence against Mandlawi in the case was footage of the beheadings. The prosecutor described the filmed beheadings as “one the most horrible things I’ve seen as my near 30-year career as a prosecutor”. He said: “The two men were murdered in a very bestial manner. They’re being butchered.” ‘

https://www.thelocal.se/20171102/convicted-swedish-terrorist-hospitalized-after-hunger-strike
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November 3, 2017 11:14am
Manolo

On airlines:
https://www.economist.com/news/business/21730904-qatar-airways-forging-alliances-abroad-circumvent-blockade-home-airline-industrys
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November 3, 2017 11:20am
Manolo

Justice in multicultural Australia:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/underworld-assassins-caught-on-camera-at-kemel-barakat-murder-20171102-gzdu1m.html

With hoods covering their faces, the four assassins crept up the set of stairs before entering the supposedly secret unit block housing bikie associate and underworld figure Kemel “Blackie” Barakat through a rear fire door, before shooting their target dead.
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November 3, 2017 11:42am
starboard

Little takes a step backwards..learns stoneage lingo.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98518965/andrew-little-committed-to-getting-ngapuhi-a-settlement-and-learning-te-reo
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November 3, 2017 12:25pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUCKLAND NEW ZEALAND : October sales volumes at Barfoot & Thompson hit their lowest level since 2010 as prices drop below where they were a year ago | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/90707/october-sales-volumes-barfoot-thompson-hit-their-lowest-level-2010-prices-drop-below

The average and median selling prices for residential properties sold by Barfoot & Thompson in October have fallen back to below where they were in October last year.

The drop in prices comes as October’s sales hit their lowest level in seven years at the agency, which is by far the largest residential real estate agency in the Auckland region.

Barfoot’s median selling price was $830,500 in October, down from the record high of $900,000 in March and $34,500, or 4%, below the October 2016 median of $865,000. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Latest QV figures show average housing values in Auckland and Christchurch are below where they were 12 months ago; growth slowing in other regions | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/90660/latest-qv-figures-show-average-housing-values-auckland-and-christchurch-are-below
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November 3, 2017 12:26pm
- starboard
  
  Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz……………
  
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  November 3, 2017 12:32pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Hugh, you have been spamming us for ages with your prescription for what needed to happen to stop the growth in property prices. The government didn’t do the things you suggested and yet price growth has stopped.
  
  When can we expect your apology? If that’s too much to ask, I would settle for a period of quiet reflection.
  
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  November 3, 2017 1:04pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Seems the bubble is bursting Nigel.
    
    Why are you surprised ?
    
    Note Ireland went down from a 4.7 Median Multiple average across its metros in 2007 to 2.8 a few years later … putting all its Banks to the wall … requiring bailouts of about 70 billion euro or about $NZ 110 billion New Zealand.
    
    Supply starved markets also crash … such as California and the UK.
    
    New Zealand across its metros is currently about 5.9 Median Multiple … access Demographia Surveys at http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org … and study closely the 5 Important Graphs as well.
    
    The Lying Knight Key certainly has a lot to answer for …
    
    John Key on Housing Reform 2007 – YouTube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
    
    He failed himself, the National Party and his country … and will be held to account in the fullness of time.
    
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    November 3, 2017 1:23pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Sir John Key’s sprawling Parnell mansion sold for $20m (to Chinese buyer) … Fairfax NZ
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/96673228/Sir-John-Keys-sprawling-Parnell-mansion-sold-for-20m?cid=app-iPad
      
      Sir John Key’s perfectly manicured mansion in the leafy suburb of Parnell has been sold for an estimated $20 million.
      
      The six-bedroom Auckland pad on Saint Stephen’s Avenue sprawls across three original sections, totalling 2340sqm.
      
      Nestled amongst some of the most exclusive real estate in Auckland, the mega-mansion affectionately dubbed ‘Klub Key’ by son Max hosted many high profile political meet-and-greets, family celebrations and Instagram-worthy pool parties. … read more via hyperlink above …
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      Captain ‘Costa Concordia’ Key certainly excels at one thing … exiting …
      
      Check out his political exiting exercise within the GONE GONE GOING section of my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
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      It all ‘hit the fan’ with the 25 May 2016 Newshun Reid Research poll …
      
      Opinion: John Key’s Govt has failed New Zealand on housing | Newshub
      
      http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2016/05/opinion-john-keys-govt-has-failed-new-zealand-on-housing.html
      
      It was clear to me he would desert the sinking ship … as I stated publicly soon after …
      
      Housing campaigner predicts spiralling house prices will be Key’s ‘Waterloo’ | Stuff.co.nz
      
      http://i.stuff.co.nz/business/83627043/Housing-campaigner-predicts-spiralling-house-prices-will-be-Keys-Waterloo
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      Remember … we discussed the Irish housing market here at Kiwiblog earlier too …
      
      http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/general_debate_20_july_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1971764
      
      LEARNING FROM THE IRISH 2007 HOUSING CRASH … THE SEVERE COSTS OF MULTIPLE STRETCH … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      November 3, 2017 4:59pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      ‘ (to Chinese buyer) ‘
      Oh, I see. You’re a racist prick
      #Key Derangement Syndrome
      
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      November 3, 2017 5:07pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        The tale in this interview of how the tossers from Merrill Lynch fee farmed … where 4 guys charged the Irish Government 4 million euros for 4 days work for a crap report … just as the housing market crashed in 2007, is a real hoot …
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/06/general_debate_8_june_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1946526
        
        Prof Bill Black & others discuss the Irish financial system performance … Youtube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7zd5dRILBw
        
        I suppose it could fairly be said the Irish got off light with their Merroll Lynch experience.
        
        Our guy … the Lying Knight Key … deliberately pumped up the bubble value of our housing market from $600 billion in 2008 to a trillion bucks by 2017 … with Auckland housing over that time, going from 6.4 Median Multiple to a stratospheric 10 today.
        
        When this years Demographia Suurvey was released 23 January , I explained what could have /should have happened if Key had what it takes …
        
        Not PC Blog … NEW ZEALAND’S HOUSING CONSENSUS: WHERE IS THE POLITICAL LEASDERSHIP ?
        
        http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2017/01/auckland-worlds-fourth-hardest-to-buy.html
        
        As a Tory I am livid with Key.
        
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        November 3, 2017 5:26pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        BNZ’s Tony Alexander describes new government’s ban on foreigners buying houses as ‘clever’, and says it ‘aligns NZ with the foreign buying policies of almost all other countries’ | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/90716/bnzs-tony-alexander-describes-new-governments-ban-foreigners-buying-houses-clever-and
        
        BNZ’s colourful chief economist Tony Alexander has thrown his support behind the new government’s move to block non-resident foreigners from buying existing houses. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        November 3, 2017 5:44pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        ‘We’ve inherited a disaster’: Official figures show 45,000 home shortfall in Auckland | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98519361/weve-inherited-a-disaster-official-figures-show-45000-home-shortfall-in-auckland
        
        Official figures prepared for the new housing minister estimate a shortfall of 45,000 houses in Auckland, with supply of new homes well behind increased demand.
        
        They also show serious shortfalls in Hamilton and Wellington leading to a nationwide shortage of 71,000, with new minister Phil Twyford saying his government have “inherited a disaster.”
        
        The estimates, never publicly released, were included in a briefing for Twyford from his new ministry partially released to Stuff. It compares population increase with new houses actually built – not just consented. … read more via hyperlink above …
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        Nationwide housing shortage – 71,000 – NZ Herald
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11940328
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        Foreign buyer ban will work, Phil Twyford insists … Newshub
        
        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/foreign-buyer-ban-will-work-phil-twyford-insists.html
        
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        November 3, 2017 6:17pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Pavletichs Dog – Definition; When a blog post triggers multiple postings of the posters obsession.
        So funny.
        
        -Apologies to Ivan Pavlov
        
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        November 3, 2017 6:28pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … THE AUSSIES PRAISING NEW NEW ZEALAND PRIME MINISTER JACINDA ARDERN …
        
        Ardern: “We believe that housing is a right” … MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/11/ardern-believe-housing-right/
        
        https://www.facebook.com/jacindaardern/videos/10154805840237441/
        
        http://www.macrobusiness.com.au
        
        Great stuff from the legend: Here’s why she is spot on, Maslow’s hierarchy of needs: At the base of all human well-being is the house: food, water, warmth, rest, security and safety. If your society is not providing that to as many people as possible – especially future children – then, frankly, it’s a failure. … READ AND VIEW MORE via hyperlink above …
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        New Zealand’s New Leader Wants to Go Further Than Most to Curb Housing Prices – WSJ … behind paywall …
        
        https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-zealands-new-leader-wants-to-go-further-than-most-to-curb-housing-prices-1509533271
        
        WELLINGTON, New Zealand—With its plan to bar nearly all foreigners from buying existing homes, New Zealand’s new government is taking aim at a group of buyers that it blames for a growing housing-affordability crisis.
        
        Graham Wall, an Auckland-based real-estate agent, fears many of his clients are in the crosshairs … read more via hyperlink above …
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        How to pay for an uncongested Auckland … Bernard Hickey … Newsroom
        
        https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/10/31/57399/how-to-pay-for-an-uncongested-auckland
        
        … extract …
        
        Other financing tools
        
        Twyford said the new Government was also pushing ahead with plans for infrastructure bonds serviced by targeted rates in new areas. An infrastructure funding solution was needed before any removal of Metropolitan Urban Limit, which has now become the Rural Urban Growth boundary under the new Unitary Plan.
        
        “It’s that failure of urban growth that’s at the heart of the problems we’ve got with gridlock on the roads and expensive housing. The highly restrictive planning system and the Metropolitan Urban Limit is the sharp end of that, but also infrastructure financing is critical,” he said.
        
        “The thing with the Metropolitan Urban Limit is you’ve got to fix the infrastructure financing first because the rural urban boundary is a proxy for the line between land that has infrastructure and land that doesn’t.
        
        “I want to tackle those two things together and I want to build on the work done by the former Government with special purpose vehicles, but we need to take it a lot further. What we need is a pipeline of finance that is available for the infrastructure for new urban developments.
        
        “You can’t rely on the minister rocking up every six months and writing a cheque. That’s not a sustainable way to do it. You’ve got to be able to tap into debt finance. Make it available for developments that get the tick in terms of quality and reticulation, serviced by a targeted rate on the properties in a new development.”
        
        Twyford acknowledged that any system for infrastructure bonds issued by new authorities such as Municipal Utility Districts (MUDs), which are used in the United States to raise finance for suburban infrastructure, had to ensure that ratings agencies saw them as separate from Councils.
        
        “Critically you’ve got to solve the question of where that debt sits and on whose balance sheet,” he said.
        
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        November 3, 2017 6:42pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        All_on_Red:
        
        Hugh’s all-time record is a nested thread of 16 comments. That’s 16 comments in a row from Hugh. No one bothered to reply to any of them!
        
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        November 3, 2017 6:55pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        See. Pavletich’s Dog Syndrome is a real thing!
        Lol.
        
        Edit – Nosty, I reckon he’s got them all on a word Doc and just copies them across. A bit sad and pathetic really. I bet he goes ‘Tee hee hee’ as he does it.
        Oh well.
        
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        November 3, 2017 6:56pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Five ways the Labour Government will change Auckland | Newshub
        
        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/five-ways-the-labour-government-will-change-auckland.html
        
        … extract …
        
        … Heaps more houses
        
        The Government has made a huge commitment to building houses. It will have to find the land, money and people to build 100,000 houses over 10 years.
        
        Fifty-thousand of those promised homes will be in Auckland.
        
        Some of the responsibility for those Kiwibuild houses will fall on the council’s Panuku Development organisation, which is in charge of buying, selling and developing property for the council.
        
        Mr Goff says Special Housing Areas “didn’t deliver”.
        
        “Nobody is building affordable housing in Auckland at the moment and that is creating a crisis for lower-income families.
        
        “It will make a huge difference to have Kiwibuild.”
        
        But no-one can deny building 5000 homes a year in Auckland alone will be a huge feat. National’s suitably-named housing spokesperson, Michael Woodhouse, will be watching very closely.
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        Housing – New Zealand Labour Party
        
        http://www.labour.org.nz/housing
        
        … extract …
        
        Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out
        
        Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds.
        
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        November 3, 2017 8:21pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Pavletich’s Dog Syndrome
        So very funny.
        Yap yap
        
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        November 3, 2017 8:24pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        IS THE BUREAUCRATICALLY BLOATED AND UNRESPONSIVE AUCKLAND COUNCIL GOING TO DESTROY THE NEW LABOUR GOVERNMENTS HOUSING ASPIRATIONS ?
        
        KiwiBuild doubts raised: building boss blames (Auckland Council) consent delays – NZ Herald
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11939992
        
        … extract …
        
        … Richards addressed industry leaders, funders, builders and colleagues at McConnell Property’s 20th anniversary celebrations at The Cloud in Auckland last night.
        
        “I’m not knocking the aspirations of the KiwiBuild scheme, or out to criticise the approach. But I’m suggesting the new Government needs to be made aware of the challenges of dealing with the Auckland Council’s consenting regime, especially when we compare it to some of the other local authorities around New Zealand,” he said.
        
        Twyford has said that KiwiBuild can be achieved, is a $2b scheme, he has had extensive discussions with industry leaders and is confident of its success.
        
        Richards called for a “radical change” in consenting processes.
        
        “As an industry, we face constant and expensive delays because the council is not resourced adequately,” Richards said, adding that he is not alone in his views, with fellow developers in Auckland regularly voicing the same frustrations. … read more via hyperlink above
        
        … The British style bureaucratically bloated local government culture (an unfortunate Rodney Hide creation for Auckland) … as explained by the UK Daily Mail …
        
        The Great Inertia Sector: A whistleblower’s account of council work where staff pull six-month sickies … UK Daily Mail
        
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289702/Public-sector-inertia-council-office-employees-month-sickies.html
        
        Inquiry. The Great British Housing Disaster (Adam Curtis, 1984) – YouTube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5VorymiL4
        
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        November 4, 2017 3:01am
      - All_on_Red
        
        O.M.G
        Hugh’s Pavletich’s Dog Syndrome is so bad he creeps back here at 3am (!!!!!!) to put a post up.
        Hugh- just quietly, having the last word doesn’t mean you win.
        What a nutter.
        Funny though.
        
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        November 4, 2017 7:33am
starboard

But but..liarbor said it was all Nationals fault and that bad man Key was to blame?? How can this be?
Have liarbor been lying again?

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/property/98475352/labour-governments-have-overseen-greatest-house-price-inflation-data-shows
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November 3, 2017 12:30pm
sooty

Taxinda Where’s My Card! Lola de la Haye turned 108 years old and had cards from other PM’s. But none from the present PM..
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November 3, 2017 12:32pm
- rangitoto
  
  Not her fault. She has to get permission from Winston for anything not specified in the secret agreement and he’s gone AWOL.
  
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  November 3, 2017 12:41pm
- SGA
  
  I saw that article in Stuff. As I read it, the delay is for new cards because the current cards have Bill English’s photo on them. Seemed reasonable.
  
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  November 3, 2017 1:17pm
- GoVege
  
  Maybe she’s got more important things to do than sending old biddies cards…
  
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  November 3, 2017 4:12pm
  - KevOB
    
    She’s been excessively busy. Standby for her overworking. She doesn’t function without a script and having PR organisers she put herself on a not so merrygoround.
    
    Meanwhile ~~Winston’s hunting grouper.~~ grouper are hunting Winston. His pacemaker acts as tracker.
    
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    November 3, 2017 7:53pm
Manolo

Who is in favour of more Muslim immigrants?http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/egypt-lawyer-rape-girls-revealing-clothing-ripped-jeans-nabih-al-wahsh-a8030831.html

An Egyptian lawyer has prompted outrage for saying harassing and raping girls who wear revealing clothing such as ripped jeans is a “national duty”.

Nabih al-Wahsh, a prominent conservative, made the controversial comments during a TV panel show discussion debating a draft law on prostitution.

“Are you happy when you see a girl walking down the street with half of her behind showing?” the lawyer said on Al-Assema earlier this month.

He added: “I say that when a girl walks about like that, it is a patriotic duty to sexually harass her and a national duty to rape her.”
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November 3, 2017 12:39pm
- GoVege
  
  To be a bit more positive. …the article says a liberal cleric Sheik Rashad said this jerk was mentally ill, just before they came to blows.
  
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  November 3, 2017 1:35pm
Digmen1

Three strikes working very well but now gone
Compulsory Unions back

Neither of these were mentioned or campaigned on!

I hope all those people that thought Jacinda was so nice are now having regrets.
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November 3, 2017 12:40pm
- treadingthemill
  
  Neither of these were mentioned or campaigned on!
  
  Labour has always opposed three strikes, that is public knowledge. And the new industrial relations policy was campaigned on.
  
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  November 3, 2017 12:48pm
  - KevOB
    
    That was in Pike River.
    
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    November 3, 2017 7:56pm
- kowtow
  
  Stab a prison officer in the neck in a premeditated attck and get 3 and a bit years! Rubbish.
  
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/343010/prisoners-sentenced-for-vicious-attack-on-guards
  
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  November 3, 2017 12:57pm
  - GoVege
    
    Apparently they are all gang members.
    You know….a perfectly “acceptable lifestyle choice” according to the racist party.
    When are we going to stop paying people to breed criminals?
    Or at least pay them to use contraception?
    
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    November 3, 2017 4:06pm
Viking2

Hugh might like to read this information. It is clear from the relevant records that Labour cause house pricec inflation.

So you ain’t seen nothing yet it seems.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/98475352/labour-governments-have-overseen-greatest-house-price-inflation-data-shows

New government policies are predicted to put the brakes on an already slowing property market.

But data shows that, historically, it has been Labour governments that have overseen New Zealand’s biggest house price rises.

Data from CoreLogic shows house prices grew 49 per cent from 1990 to 1999, under National-led governments

Then, from 1999 to 2008, prices rose 113 per cent under the last Labour-led government.

Tony Alexander, BNZ’s chief economist, used data back to 1961, which showed the average price rise per annum under governments led by each party.

It showed an average rise of 9.1 per cent per year under the National governments, and 16.8 per cent under Labour – or 13.9 per cent excluding the 1972 Labour government period when oil prices soared and inflation was uncontrolled.

Confirms what some of us knew.
Buy now guys.
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November 3, 2017 12:47pm
Viking2

The law that earned the former police minister the nickname “Crusher” resulted in just three cars being confiscated and crushed.

National’s Judith Collins introduced a law in 2009 which allowed vehicles to be seized and destroyed.

The plan was to target illegal street racing
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98513231/just-three-cars-destroyed-under-crusher-collins-law

Go and read the comments. Gees i wonder at the intelligence of many stupid bloody Kiwi’s of the left. ”

Trains
More proof that National’s 3 strikes legislation, both in terms of violent offences and traffic offences, has achieved very little.

there’s more.
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November 3, 2017 12:59pm
- Digmen1
  
  On the contrary re 3 strikes.
  Just look at the those figures on how many two strikes warnings there have been, and you will see that offenders do not want to get a third one.
  So yes it is working!
  
  Do you want more crime ?
  
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  November 3, 2017 2:10pm
- Viking2
  
  There is no justice. Down ticked for reporting the stupid bastards of the laft who think 3 strikes doesn’t work.
  
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  November 3, 2017 3:42pm
GazzaW

The Herald is still obsessed with the Waikato Dio girls topless bike ride through Hamilton Boys High. Seems that they are determined to make examples of them for the usual reason that they are private school rich kids. That the injured boy’s parents are not interested in pursuing the matter is quite irrelevant to the Herald. We’ll no doubt get a sanctimonious editorial in the morning.

If only the Herald would apply the same resources to some in depth reporting of the new Cabinet Ministers’ gaffes.
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November 3, 2017 1:22pm
- Viking2
  
  More fun if they removed the black patches. Can’t be much wrong with looking at a pair of nice young boobs.
  
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  November 3, 2017 3:40pm
- GazzaW
  
  BREAKING NEWS. …..Hamilton Boys High retaliate
  
  Our pre eminent news publication breathlessly reports. Meanwhile in Washington, Beijing, Canberra……………….
  
  FFS Herald editorial staff grow up and give us some real news. This is just adolescent pap.
  
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  November 3, 2017 4:08pm
- KevOB
  
  Gaffes and deceit.
  
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  November 3, 2017 7:58pm
Inandout

Go Fox News. They may nail their beliefs to the mast, but their guests are from both Left and Right.

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/category/ratings
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November 3, 2017 1:22pm
Jack5

PR hot air keeps the rapture bubble up …

In the Christchurch Press today a report about Ardern visiting Hornby High School:

She received a heroine’s welcome, mobbed with requests for photos and hugs. At least one student burst into tears, and many others tried, but failed, to contain their excitement.
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November 3, 2017 2:37pm
- mandk
  
  Lol.
  That reads like something from the Pyongyang School of Journalism.
  
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  November 3, 2017 3:08pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  God can you imagine if a male politician touched the people that Jacinda has already touched.
  
  As one it is great that we are seen as more empathetic but that does not mean that every casual touch or empathetic touch by a man is a sexual assault.
  
  Would it be considered a sexual assault if a lesbian casually touches/hugs a woman?
  
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  November 3, 2017 3:25pm
  - cha
    
    Yeah, imagine.
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    https://i.imgur.com/BOjIKA7.gif
    
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    November 3, 2017 3:48pm
    - Jack5
      
      Or, Cha, like this:
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4809631/MP-Darren-Hughes-resigns-following-scandal
      
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      November 3, 2017 4:39pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Did they have a paddling pool on stage for her to walk on ?
  
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  November 3, 2017 6:52pm
RF

FFS soon they will erecting statues and naming their first born after her?

Can she cure warts and turn water into wine ?
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November 3, 2017 3:03pm
- RalphT
  
  The modern day Michael Joseph Savage, with a picture hanging on every living room wall*
  
  *Or in my case, the outhouse.
  
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  November 3, 2017 3:35pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Nope, she can only perform “near-miracles”.
  http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/10/jacinda-ardern-performed-near-miracle-to-win-election-helen-clark.html
  
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  November 3, 2017 6:09pm
ex-golfer

Well done National: https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/98505034/first-homes-in-north-shores-1200strong-social-housing-development-project-is-finished

Interesting that comments are not active on a good news story that shows some of the success from Nationals plans.

And just for Penny – this little snippet:
“The Northcote Development will replace 300 state houses with approximately 1200 new homes…”

See what happens when you remove unsuitable and out-of-date housing with modern new builds – you get more suitable housing (in this case 4 times the amount).
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November 3, 2017 3:11pm
- Viking2
  
  The impressive-looking first house in a massive state-housing redevelopment project has just been completed in Northcote on Auckland’s North Shore.
  
  But wait it will be officially opened by Twatford priasing the fast action his govt. has taken to build houses for the poor taxpayer who is the funder.
  
  Mind you the Nats. did the same to Winston over the Tauranga Harbour Bridge.
  Simon & co completely snubbed Winston and he was the person who got the deal done. Bridges managed to cut the ribbon mere days after taking power.
  And you wonder why he is sour with them.
  
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  November 3, 2017 3:38pm
- rangitoto
  
  How long before they are trashed?
  
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  November 3, 2017 4:47pm
  - GoVege
    
    Surely in this day and age they could install meth- monitors?
    
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    November 3, 2017 9:08pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Canterbury Port Hills fires – arson
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/98512910/canterbury-port-hills-fires-response-confused-with-bad-public-communication–independent-review
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November 3, 2017 3:55pm
starboard

Great. Arden invites in more scum and filth. She has no right doing this..putting NZ’ers at risk with her dirty imports. Arden..not my Prime Minister.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98537618/jacinda-ardern-reconfirms-offer-to-take-150-refugees-from-australian-detention-centres
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November 3, 2017 4:16pm
- SPC
  
  John Key first made the offer … its worse when … do it.
  
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  November 3, 2017 4:20pm
- treadingthemill
  
  Arden invites in more scum and filth…dirty imports
  
  What makes them ‘scum and filth and dirty’? Is it that they are not White Europeans?
  
  putting NZ’ers at risk
  
  At risk from what?
  
  She has no right doing this
  
  Legally she does, but as SPC notes, it was John Key who made the original offer.
  
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  November 3, 2017 4:30pm
  - starboard
    
    So, how many are YOU going to welcome into your household?? Yeah, thought not. Wake up you idiot..take a look around your planet. We don’t need or want them.
    Good quality imports are welcome, this sort of rabble…nah.
    
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    November 3, 2017 4:45pm
    - treadingthemill
      
      You didn’t answer any of my questions. Were you afraid of being honest? And by the way, I didn’t say we should take them in. I was just curious about whether your language choices were the result of white supremacist ideology, racism, or psychological defects from a bad childhood.
      
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      November 3, 2017 4:50pm
- rangitoto
  
  Aus wont let them come here. They will be on a plane to Sydney as soon as they get an NZ passport.
  
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  November 3, 2017 4:48pm
  - Jack5
    
    If Aus does let them come here, it will be no time at all before New Zealand residents need visas to visit Australia.
    
    The NZ back door to Australia is being opened too wide by our politicians.
    
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    November 3, 2017 5:14pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Ardern has no memory of whats happening in Germany and shrieking fucking liberals like DPF who support this sort of behaviour are to blame.
  The guy has only just realized Clinton is crooked FFS!!!!
  
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  November 3, 2017 7:57pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

Refugees welcome?
This virtue signalling will kill Kiwis.
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November 3, 2017 4:25pm
- SPC
  
  I have no problem with taking in refugees.
  
  But I do have a problem with queue jumping and economic migrants seeking to push their way in illegally.
  
  I would not take a single one from Oz detention, instead I would prefer that we declare a policy of only taking in refugees vetted at refugee camps.
  
  We should be asking the international community to assist Oz in sending these illegal migrants back to where they came from.
  
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  November 3, 2017 4:36pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep, how many war-widows & kids stuck in pox-ridden refugee camps will get booted down the queue because some fit, young men decided to decamp from their peaceful nations?
    
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    November 3, 2017 6:05pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      RICH fit young men.
      It costs a lot of money to get all the way from Iran and then onto a boat in Indonesia.
      
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      November 3, 2017 6:08pm
    - Gabby
      
      Don’t worry, their kids, mums, aunties and uncles will be along presently.
      
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      November 3, 2017 9:39pm
    - GoVege
      
      Those war-widows are not all saints, Maggie.
      I know one who has been taking a benny and spacious state home for yonks, though she spends most of her time living at her sons’ places.
      
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      November 4, 2017 1:10pm
Digmen1

What puts us at risk is that they are men and muslims.

They all have the potential to be radicalised and inflict casualties here in NZ.

So we do not want them. (Well I don’t)

There are plenty of Christian refugees that we could take from countries like Egpyt Syria and Iran that are being persecuted.

Muslims belong in muslim countires.
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November 3, 2017 4:39pm
Viking2

‘We’ve inherited a disaster’: Official figures show 45,000 home shortfall in Auckland

fficial figures prepared for the new housing minister estimate a shortfall of 45,000 houses in Auckland, with supply of new homes well behind increased demand.

They also show serious shortfalls in Hamilton and Wellington leading to a nationwide shortage of 71,000, with new minister Phil Twyford saying his government have “inherited a disaster.”

The estimates, never publicly released, were included in a briefing for Twyford from his new ministry partially released to Stuff. It compares population increase with new houses actually built – not just consented.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98519361/weve-inherited-a-disaster-official-figures-show-45000-home-shortfall-in-auckland

So on the basis of a shortfall of 75k it is reasonable to point out that apparently there are 225000 people sleeping under hedges or in their cars.

And 135000 of them are in Auckland.
Could someone who lives in that rat infested place please advise if they are overrun with people sleeping on the streets, in cars or under hedges.

What a total crock of shit this guy is.
reminds me of chicken little. The sky is falling the sky is falling wer’e doomed.

Oh and tomorrow no doubt he will be cutting the ribbon on a bunch of new houses in Northcote.
Fucking wanker.
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November 3, 2017 5:07pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Yep, Auckland parks and streets are just clogged with all the people sleeping in tents/sarc
  
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  November 3, 2017 6:06pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  How the fuck was National expected to cope with the numbers of kiwis who stopped fucking off to Oz as soon as we got rid of the Klarkula regime?
  That is the crux of the housing shortage.
  Nice to see that it’s now starting to correct itself, and we all know why.
  
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  November 3, 2017 8:30pm
- Digmen1
  
  Who calculates this figure and how?
  
  Maybe the same organisation that counts child poverdy.
  
  Why don’t they do something useful and count the number of useless ferals in our country!
  
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  November 4, 2017 7:06am
rangitoto

Hawaiki cable

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/98519221/500m-pacific-internet-cable-arrives

I must admit I was sceptical that this would get off the ground but the guy wouldn’t give up. This will be actual competition for the Southern Cross cable.
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November 3, 2017 5:31pm
Fletch

Check this out – the mad, Muslim, Muppet “Allahu Akbar” bomber 😛

https://mobile.twitter.com/skjultster/status/880988189829320704/video/1
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November 3, 2017 5:53pm
Fletch

Laura Ingraham interviews trump today –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_huBHkqbl4
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November 3, 2017 6:49pm
Captain Mainwaring

DPF,

This prick Pavletich has taken over your blog as though it’s his own.
I’m sure that the vast majority of your followers would give you a high five if you told the bastard to fuck off.

cheers,

The Captain
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November 3, 2017 9:39pm
Manolo

Another know-it-all?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/02/prince-william-warns-many-people-world/
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November 4, 2017 6:37am
Manolo

The crook will continue to lie until the day she dies:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/2/hillary-clinton-defends-trump-dossier-opposition-r/
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