General Debate 21 November 2017

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Captain Mainwaring

Heard an apparently true story yesterday about a woman trying to emigrate here from Austria. She has skills and qualifications to deal with the children of drug-addled parents. No shortage of those in this country, but I bet there is a shortage of those who can deal with the effects.
Applied for the job and got it, was told it was in Invercargill. No problem for her. Put her case to Immigration. “Yep” they said, “you’re in”.
Then the Government changed.
“Sorry, we have plenty of New Zealanders who can do that job”.
This is just the beginning.
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November 21, 2017 8:02am
- kowtow
  
  Why are we taking in “refugees” who will take up scarce social housing, live off benefits that other people’s efforts create and never work ?
  
  We’ve got plenty of New Zealanders who do that too!
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:08am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Why are we taking in “refugees” who will take up scarce social housing, live off benefits that other people’s efforts create and never work ?
    
    For the same reason it’s being done in every single white country and only white country in the world….
    
    White Genocide
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:40am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      I’d be interested in the thoughts of the 6 downtickers on why it is only white countries that are forced to take in a never ending stream of low IQ, violent? 3rd world, overwhelmingly fighting age males?
      
      But it’s not just the sheer absurdity of this demographic replacement against the people’s wishes, the real evidence of white genocide is the never ending and now escalating psychological warfare by Politicians, the MSM and big business
      
      Just watch this short clip that’s shows every single major British Retailers 2017 Christmas adverts that consigns the British nuclear family to the dustbin of history:
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZX1URMba20
      
      Here in NZ, Maori moved to New Zealand between 1250 & 1300 AD, 250 years AFTER the Norman conquest of England & yet we’re constantly told they’re “Native” people despite coming here by ship. But the English however are not considered native to England by their political elite and English children are constantly reminded “England is an immigrant nation” in order to combat “Islamophobia” (see below from today)
      
      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/11/19/schools-teach-britain-immigration-nation/amp/
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:27am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        I don’t think that the Japanese are regarded by some as the indigenous people of Japan–that would be the Ainu.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35UhRBLIqbo
        
        I can sense a lot of the “Maori in New Zealand” narratives in the background of this video clip.
        
        Conclusion: it doesn’t matter if you have been in a country for 200 years or for 2,000 years. If there was any other minor group here before you and you have “oppressed” them (there’s that word again…) then you are a bad person and you owe them lots of stuff / free perks / forever! (But who cares how destructive this may actually be to them…)
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:37am
      - treadingthemill
        
        Race is a myth. All human beings are descended from the same original stock. Supposed “racial” differences are merely surface level adaptations to environment.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:51am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Race may be a myth, but the attraction of shared culture, language and kinship are very real to many people.
        
        Know this: a belief worth dying for is also worth killing for.
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:08am
      - treadingthemill
        
        but the attraction of shared culture, language and kinship are very real to many people.
        
        Of course they are. I don’t dispute that at all, or that here are legitimate concerns about immigration. But I fear those concerns are easily undermined by couching them in pseudo-scientific racialist thinking and the myth of white genocide. In the Western world, the easiest way to ensure we don’t have a robust debate about immigration is to associate legitimate concerns with white supremacist nonsense. People like Ead are not doing the need for that debate any favours.
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:19am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        In the Western world, the easiest way to ensure we don’t have a robust debate about immigration is to associate legitimate concerns with white supremacist nonsense.
        
        I’m not sure of your background treadingthemill, nor do I care to be honest but you are being particularly disingenuous. “White Supremacist” thanks to people like you has simply come to mean any white person who wants to live as society has been for millennia and still does in the the vast majority of the rest of the non-white world. Are the Japanese “Japanese Supremacists” for wanting to be the demographic majority in their country and not be surrounded by 3rd world aliens?
        
        Or perhaps you’re one of the people who is fast asleep and doesn’t severity of the demographic crisis facing European people today?
        
        I say this because it is almost impossible for the informed mind not to come to the conclusion that White people everywhere are facing a deliberate and planned genocide through racial replacement, loss of territory and race mixing (a.k.a. the Coudenhove-Kalegri Plan)
        
        http://www.westernspring.co.uk/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-the-genocide-of-the-peoples-of-europe/
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:43am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        “race is a myth”
        Dogs have been around for about 30000 years. All dogs can breed with all other dogs, but border collies dominate all other breeds in intelligence, greyhounds win all dog races, huskies win all dogsled pulling competitions, chuahuas win most annoying dog+owner awards, and a couple of breeds dominate dog fighting. Heritable phenotypes within dog ‘breeds’ make a huge difference to behaviour and ability, both physical and intellectual.
        
        What, other than misplaced faith in a fair universe, makes you believe humans are different?
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:49am
      - treadingthemill
        
        “White Supremacist” thanks to people like you has simply come to mean any white person who wants to live as society has been for millenia and still does in the the majority of the rest of the world.
        
        That was my point. But that’s not my fault, it’s yours.
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:54am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        White genocide?
        Is this really a thing?
        
        If it is, then my first reaction is “not my problem.” (But then the words of pastor Martin Niemöller begin to haunt me.)
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:57am
      - treadingthemill
        
        @ UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        You can find the same heritable differences within peoples who are supposedly of the same race. Different European groups for example have differences along the lines you mention. And even within the same local groups you can find differences resulting from inheritance. So I’m not saying there are no differences between people groups, just that “race” is a poor way to understand or think about them, especially when it’s used in a broad brush way, such as speaking about the “white” race or the “black” race. And European peoples did not think of themselves as a single race until very recently, possibly as a result of the eugenics craze a hundred years ago, and 19th century anthropology. The concept of a white race is a very recent invention that ignores the many heritable differences between European peoples, and the complexity and diversity of genetic origins.
        
        ‘Irish DNA originated in Middle East and eastern Europe’
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/dec/28/origins-of-the-irish-down-to-mass-migration-ancient-dna-confirms
        
        ‘DNA Links Europeans to Middle Eastern Farmers, Eurasian Nomads’
        
        https://www.wrmea.org/1995-october-november/dna-links-europeans-to-middle-eastern-farmers-eurasian-nomads.html
        
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        November 21, 2017 11:15am
    - MCos
      
      You are clearly unaware that more than 600,000 refugees have recently arrived in Bangladesh, not a ‘white’ country’.
      Maybe you consider them an honarary white country because they play cricket.
      
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      November 21, 2017 11:29am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        @ mcos,
        
        So you don’t see any difference between Muslims going to a neighbouring Islamic country vs. crossing oceans to go to an alien country and culture like those in Manaus that Taxcinda is trying to bring in.
        
        In any case we’re being softened up now to take them:
        
        http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/rohingya-muslim-refugees-myanma-bangladesh-priti-patel-a8062651.html
        
        Just like it was in Syria, they all flee to the neighbouring countries then ‘aid agencies” and traitorous governments settle them in the West and they never return even when the war is over.
        
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        November 21, 2017 11:38am
  - backster
    
    “Why are we taking in “refugees” who will take up scarce social housing, live off benefits that other people’s efforts create and never work”
    
    Because it creates Dependency and Dependency is the life blood of Socialism.
    
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    November 21, 2017 11:19am
- pdm
  
  `This is just the beginning.’
  
  A telling and prophetic sentence in the context of the current government. None of it good.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:11am
- Evadne
  
  She applied for a Visa? We don’t want that sort of person here!!!!
  
  She needs to think like a leftie: live on Manus Island for a little while, or employ a people smuggler. Then Jacinda would welcome her with open arms.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:14am
- hullkiwi
  
  Captain, from personal experience, she needs a kiwi husband, & come on a family visa for residency. My wife is an Austrian national. The processing can be slow though (it took 2 months & another month to get her passport back) & she then got charged a cultural settlement fee.
  
  Austria is one of four countries in the world for which a residency visa is free (processing cost is something else). Other countries in this category include Finland & Japan.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:19am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I get the impression that if the Austrian woman had a “Kiwi” wife she would be more acceptable to our present regime.
    But as an Austrian she might be a distant relative of Gustavos Von Tempsky, who gave the Tangata Whenua a right royal round up prior to his death at Te Ngutu o Te Manu. That might be why an Austrian is denied entry.
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:34am
    - Jack5
      
      I’m sure Tauhei knows that von Tempsky was a Prussian, not an Austrian, and that the Prussians and Germans are genetically as closely related to the English as they are to Austrians.
      
      During the world wars, the politically correct said he was Polish, and the family name suggests there may have been ancient Polish or Russian origins.
      
      Von Tempsky was from a noble family in Braunsberg, East Prussia, now Braniewo, Poland, after the border shifting by Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill.
      
      Parts of Prussia not moved into Poland were ethnically cleaned by the Russians, and now make up the Russian enclave of Kalingrad.
      
      The Red Army’s most brutal treatment of foreign civilians was in eastern Prussia. It make horrendous reading, and now it’s doubtful there are any ethnic Prussians in Kalingrad.
      
      In all about 400,000 people are believed to have been killed in the expulsion of ethnic Germans from Poland, Czechoslovakia and what became Kalingrad.
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:29am
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        Jack5, thank you for putting me right.
        Yes, Prussian. Silly error on my part.
        It is Kaliningrad, not Kalingrad. A place I would love to visit, as it is surrounded by western style places, but is a Russian enclave.
        It is people like you pointing out the errors of ways in a polite manner that help make this the best blog in the blogosphere.
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:35am
      - Kiwi Dave
        
        Tauhei, since you don’t mind being politely corrected…
        
        An extreme pedant obsessed by semantic trivia would say that Kaliningrad is an exclave rather than an enclave because it is not completely surrounded by a foreign country or the territorial waters of a foreign country.
        
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        November 21, 2017 1:27pm
- softail 1450
  
  CM there is a course here in auckland to gain those skills necessary for that job captain ,it’s a full 4 year course 3 1/2 years is dedicated to learning te reo and the final 6 months covers the actual learning .
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:34am
- BananaLlama
  
  Except under National it wasn’t Austrians coming to NZ by the hundreds of thousands was it. I’m all for increasing the amount of Europeans wanting to settle here but don’t pretend that was happening under the National government.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:51am
Maggy Wassilieff

Jacinda’s blabby mouth makes International news

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42048479

https://yournz.org/2017/11/21/backroom-chat-becomes-international-news/
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November 21, 2017 8:03am
- lifesgood
  
  What a silly cow! ” No one marched when I was elected”. Of course they didn’t, right leaning voters are too mature to behave like the childish lefty snow flakes.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:08am
  - holysheet
    
    That’s because she wasn’t elected as PM. She was picked by the Drunken dwarf , Mr 7%.
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:20am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    WO nailed it – ‘Yeah, Jacinda, no one marched because the right-wing aren’t petulant violent assholes who can’t accept democracy.’
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:27am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Maybe the “right-wing” had work to go to or things to do that day?
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:42am
  - KKKKatee
    
    Ahem!! “Let’s be clear” to Ardern – “You weren’t elected, you were appointed to the role by a seriously vindictive individual for no other reason that utu.
    How does that make you feel? He’s put you in the top job so that you can be the one to be sliced and diced on his behalf. And by the look of it, it’s working already. How does that make you feel?”
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:46am
    - MrLovebucket
      
      How does that make her feel?
      
      She should feel miles out of her depth – but apparently is completely oblivious to this.
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:02am
    - holysheet
      
      “Yeh but look at what I have achieved in the last month in the job”
      No more poverdy
      No more housing crisis
      No more disillusionment. We are all positively positive.
      
      Lets do this and much more.
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:03am
      - starboard
        
        I dont ‘wana do this’ anymore
        Its a disaster.
        
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        November 21, 2017 11:11am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Said: “No one marched when I was elected”
    
    Thought: “OMG no one marched! Why didinthay march?!? I wanna march! I deserve a march! Waaaa waaaa waaaaa”
    
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    November 21, 2017 1:48pm
- Evadne
  
  Yes, when the ultra-left anti-Trump UK Guardian headlines Jacinda’s “regret” and discomfort, you know you’re in trouble. They even chose a photo that makes it look like the Trump is telling her off – her head bowed in submission like a student before a principal.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:10am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    For sure – it’s not a good look when the Guardian is damning a loony lefty with faint praise.
    
    Such a screw up!
    
    Not my PM
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:23am
- Happychappy
  
  When Rachel Smalley and Jack Tame start to doubt the PM’s honesty you know that the media are having second thoughts. Jacinda has told a lie a week since she was given the job of PM by the Political Germ and not so squeaky clean Winston First and is becoming a misfit in NZ Political circles.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:11am
- KevOB
  
  Jacinda is now going to find out how lonely it is at at the top.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:16am
- tf78
  
  The gobby mare needs a gobstopper.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:19am
- KKKKatee
  
  Jabber Jaws Ardern appears to be lacking in emotional intelligence. And she thinks she’s superior to anyone older than her? She’s made headlines all around the world and it’s not very flattering. The most telling one is:
  New Zealand, An Economic Success Story, Loses it’s Way – Forbes
  How many weeks exactly, is Ardern into the Prime Ministership?
  She’s a bloody disaster internationally.
  Where the hell is Winston? He or H2 should be telling her to pull her head in right now.
  Thanks for putting the economic viability of the country on the road to potential destruction…..
  #notmyprimeminister
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:41am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Spot on KKKKateeee. (My grandad usedto sing that song) Just read your link : Forbes NZ Economic Success Story, Loses it’s way. ” New Zealand will probably lose its status as one of the most open, free economies in the world. It takes decades to weaken an economy, just like it takes decades to strengthen it. But investors will probably want to avoid New Zealand for the time being.” 🙁 Good one Winston and Jacinda. And Yes Winston if a recession comes, we the people, and Forbes will blame you, your crappy policies and mismanagement.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:52am
- VicParking
  
  What a load of shit from the tooth fairy. Sophie Grégoire Trudeau is blond, younger, has looks and has had three childern. Does not look anything like her. Just another lie from #notmyprimeminister.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:46am
  - KKKKatee
    
    I’ve just googled Sophie Trudeau and I can’t for the life of me see any similarity to Ardern whatsoever. So for Ardern to spin that story is complete and utter bullshit. What I think, however, is that Ardern secretly has a crush on Justin Trudeau. She was rather giggly around him……
    Most unbecoming of a Prime Minister…..
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:00am
    - Kleva Kiwi
      
      Maybe Arden was fantasizing over being Trudeau’s wife. She wants to be first lady of a more socialist paradise than NZ
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:32am
      - skyblue
        
        Dreams of a threesome with Justin. Dont know who the third person would be, Clark of JTs misses. I am sure JT would not mind another male in the mix, hell bet he’s done that before.
        BTW, with a name like Justin does he have a half inch dick, Just-in?
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:45am
    - Paul Marsden
      
      I agree. Her body language was very telling.
      
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      November 21, 2017 10:02am
      - thedavincimode
        
        Yes indeed. The nervous gesticulation became so frenetic that I started to wonder if she might be about to take off. Lied from start to finish. “Lying hands” is the term I recall.
        
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        November 21, 2017 11:45am
    - Gabby
      
      Like Chump knows what she or Justin looks like Kkkrapteee. He thinks they’re from honkonk.
      
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      November 21, 2017 7:12pm
- Liberty
  
  “The interview sparked headlines in New Zealand that Mr Trump had not known who Ms Ardern was.”
  
  That’s not surprising .Hardly anyone in New Zealand had heard of her. Until Winston pulled her name out of a box.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:14am
All_on_Red

1.Strong rumours Malcolm Turnbull is going to be rolled by Bishop/Morrison
2. What Labour lie will be exposed today?
3.Sploodge- leave those kids alone!
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November 21, 2017 8:05am
- KKKKatee
  
  Well, if #1 is to occur, then Julie Bishop will waste no time in making it clear to Ardern that she is out of her depth. That much is very clear. Bishop won’t become Ardern’s new BFF – not in a thousand years. Ardern has big lessons to learn in diplomacy that much is obvious. And here’s me thinking – but, but, but – she’s got a degree in communications – well it doesn’t appear to be working for her very well. Does she not reflect on what she says and how it comes across?
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:32am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And who the Hell has been advising her to behave in such a ditsy manner?
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:36am
    - pdm
      
      Kelvin.
      
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      November 21, 2017 10:02am
    - KevOB
      
      Self advised.
      
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      November 21, 2017 12:54pm
    - Flash
      
      Perhaps the Dip Corps is so pissed off with getting Winston that it has decided on passive resistance, and to let the chips fall where they may –
      
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      November 21, 2017 5:03pm
  - freethinker
    
    The reason for taxindas communication problem is that her brain is a day behind her tongue, in fact you could say Taxinda thinks with her mouth.
    
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    November 21, 2017 12:46pm
dubya

Is Jacinda’s determination to destroy visa-free travel for NZers to Australia a cynical ploy to curtail the inevitable exodus of the best and brightest whilst the CoL rewards deadbeat dads and bludging tarts?
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November 21, 2017 8:05am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Good thinking but unlikely. The exodus you talk about would work well for the Left, after all anyone with the wherewithal to move to Australia in disgust is more likely to be a centre right voter.
  
  If anything we might expect to see a special class of visa created for the well to do thinking of leaving the Democratic People’s Republic of Poverddy – one that facilitates and expedites departures but strips departees of land and all capital assets to be returned to the state to “end child poverdy”.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:27am
  - labrator
    
    The exodus you talk about would work well for the Left
    
    You can still vote in NZ elections from Aussie so it’s win win to park up for a while.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:22am
- cmm
  
  Remember she views us as taxpaying livestock.
  
  Think of it like fixing a hole in the fence.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:49am
- Paulus
  
  Visa free for travellers – yes, but what about the 450,000 New Zealanders already living in Australia. They will all have to reapply for immigrant visas like any other immigrant to Australia.
  The Immigration Department there are well known for being slow, cussed and very expensive.
  Stand back and look at the total implications.
  
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  November 21, 2017 1:46pm
kowtow

OK whitey , you’re guilty of “genocide”.

Interestingly here in NZ we love to slag off Oz and accuse them of abuse of their natives . Well now we’re in the frame.
Andrew Bolt has a standing offer to pay up if anyone can produce one , just one native who was taken from his family due to his race, no one has taken him up on it.

Stolen Generations is a left wing lie. Don’t participate.

‘Indigenous peoples throughout English-speaking countries have had their children taken away by the state for generations. Most countries have faced up to this legacy. Will New Zealand now acknowledge its own Stolen Generations?’

https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2017/quite-genocide/index.html
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November 21, 2017 8:05am
- MCos
  
  An interesting article on the subject
  https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/16-11-2017/a-nonchalant-wickedness/
  
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  November 21, 2017 11:45am
- Jaywalk
  
  One of the problems with that is that NZ was rather progressive in the sense that instead of running big homes they placed children within households (meaning Maori children were placed within their own cultural community) and into smaller group homes. I don’t know about left wing lie, but it seems in some respects the system was more progressive than stated here.
  
  This page has a lot of links on the side bar as to the system and what they have been doing for any who think they were abused in any way while in care.
  
  https://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-and-our-work/contact-us/complaints/cyf-historic-claims.html
  
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  November 21, 2017 11:05pm
Evadne

So now we’re beginning to see what the rest of the world really thinks of the CoL. An article on Forbes.com is headlined: “New Zealand, An Economic Success Story, Loses Its Way”

Read it and weep:

It seems likely that New Zealand will experience a recession during Ardern’s term. Nobody is predicting a return to the bad old days of the 70s, but New Zealand will probably lose its status as one of the most open, free economies in the world. It takes decades to weaken an economy, just like it takes decades to strengthen it. But investors will probably want to avoid New Zealand for the time being.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jareddillian/2017/11/20/new-zealand-an-economic-success-story-loses-its-way/#6f1cd6c95f7a
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November 21, 2017 8:06am
- Wangas Feral
  
  The Seppos will vote with their money. Well done CoL.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:16am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Ouch that really is a kick in the guts – Forbes advising the money to stay away from NZ already!
  
  Interest rates rises here we come!
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:29am
- calendar girl
  
  PM Ardern’s gossip story about Trump in overseas news is simply embarrassing, but unlikely to affect this country adversely.
  
  The same cannot be said about the influential ‘Forbes’ assessment of the NZ economy under her Government: “It seems likely that New Zealand will experience a recession during Ardern’s term.” After that warning, an inevitable reduction in international investment here will have a real impact on the country as a whole.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:08am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    But, but, but.. shouldn’t we be more interested in other metrics… such as our Happiness Index?
    
    Ardern says New Zealand should have a conversation about using measures such as a Happiness Index, rather than just GDP, to measure the country’s well-being.
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1711/S00213/the-nation-patrick-gower-interviews-jacinda-ardern.htm
    
    I think this will end in tears.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:40am
    - labrator
      
      I went for an extension on my mortgage but was told due a drop in the happiness index that they’re not lending at the moment. It reminds me of the great happiness crash in the 20s.
      
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      November 21, 2017 10:02am
  - Harkman
    
    I don’t think Winston has ever been in government without there also being some sort of recession. The man is jinxed.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:41am
    - Harkman
      
      “But investors will probably want to avoid New Zealand for the time being.” Wise words, sadly.
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:48am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Every Labour government since 1960 has left office with NZ in a recession. Cindy knows she’s a one-shot PM so is working extra hard to perpetuate the tradition… no mean feat given the healthy economy she inherited.
      
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      November 21, 2017 2:01pm
  - Piniwi
    
    It’s started calendergirl. The NZ$ is steadily sliding and it mostly happens in the dark as the money markets work most while NZ sleeps. It is also making that original $11.7 billion hole so much harder to fill. The Fool Factor is certainly dominating the spend thrift program. Expect fuel prices to lead the charge as prices rise and even off shore Christmas shopping is getting more expensive.
    
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    November 21, 2017 6:53pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Trash New Zealands economy, the one promise Winny the Turd is determined to keep.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:13am
- RF
  
  Evadne…
  
  Look forward to seeing this reported in our media.
  
  I am not holding my breath……..
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:30am
- Piniwi
  
  Yes Evadne this comes as the NZ$ drops another cent in values. Media party will avoid telling the masses how fast it is fading. Put that together with real estate prices easing there will be bargains for foreign buyers. It could be well into 2018 before they block these buyers since more PPL was more urgent?
  
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  November 21, 2017 6:44pm
waikatogirl

Happy 70th wedding anniversary to Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip. The day was celebrated with 3 hours and 20 minutes of peeling bells at Westminster Abbey where the pair married 70 years ago. Portraits of the happy couple were also released.

Happy queenaversary!
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November 21, 2017 8:06am
- Evadne
  
  Congratulations! 70 years is remarkable by any measure. And they look just as happy and in love together now as they did back then! A real love story, and a great couple to respect.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:18am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  God save our gracious Queen!
  Long live our noble Queen!
  God save the Queen!
  Send her victorious,
  Happy and glorious,
  Long to reign over us:
  God save the Queen!
  
  O Lord our God arise,
  Scatter her enemies,
  And make them fall:
  Confound their politics,
  Frustrate their knavish tricks,
  On Thee our hopes we fix:
  God save us all.
  
  Thy choicest gifts in store,
  On her be pleased to pour;
  Long may she reign:
  May she defend our laws,
  And ever give us cause,
  To sing with heart and voice,
  God save the Queen!
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:19am
  - MCos
    
    God Save the Queen is still our official national anthem along with God Defend NZ.
    Just about the only country in the world wth two anthems.
    
    I’m looking forward to the day when a third is added the ‘Internationale.’
    That’ll get the contributors here choking on their Milo!
    
    The world wide ridicule would be worth it just to watch the outrage.
    
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    November 21, 2017 12:01pm
starboard

Downticker..get a life and a job.
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November 21, 2017 8:09am
- RalphT
  
  Probably has an unhappy marriage and can’t bear the thought that someone else’s might actually work.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:18am
- redeye
  
  I’m not sure about you starboard but personally I get a tad depressed when a comment I have made doesn’t upset a stinking snowflake enough to get any downticks.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:45am
  - RalphT
    
    I’m too old, calm and sensible to be a snowflake but I gave you a downtick just to keep you happy.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:01am
    - holysheet
      
      dittto Ralpht. Just couldn’t resist it.
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:06am
    - redeye
      
      Awe thanks guys. You’ve made my day.
      
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      November 21, 2017 10:06am
  - VicParking
    
    Just 4U Redeye
    
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    November 21, 2017 10:42am
- Brito
  
  Redeye doubts your voracity and unimpeachable pedigree Starboard. Where’d he get that idea?
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:25am
Longknives

We were talking about Jack Tame grilling Ardern over the Trump thing at the Pub Quiz last night.
General Consensus was that Jack Tame (Credit where it’s Due) did a good job.
And- General Consensus was that Jacinda ‘Capitalism has Failed’ Ardern is hopelessly out of her depth and made a Schoolgirl mistake blabbing to her Lefty mates to impress them with some lies about Trump!
Mos surprising thing?- The Labour Voter on our team agreed!!
Trouble in Paradise for The Left?
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November 21, 2017 8:10am
- Happychappy
  
  Not a word from Jacinda and the $400,000 plus increase in the valuation of her property in Auckland, I wonder what she thinks about Capitalism now and whether it such a evil thing now. The silence is deafening.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:40am
  - KKKKatee
    
    She hates us bloody capitalists. And now she’s one of us. Well, I never…….
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:34am
  - Sideoiler
    
    Not a word from Jacinda and the $400,000 plus increase in the valuation of her property in Auckland, I wonder what she thinks about Capitalism now and whether it such a evil thing now. The silence is deafening
    
    Don’t worry Happychappy, she will squeal like the sow she is when she gets the rates demand from uncle Phil.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:52am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Comrade Taxinda will be torn: Auckland Council now admits rates really are a property tax: https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/344295/auckland-homeowners-frustrated-at-rates-uncertainty
    
    But Comrade Taxinda promised there would be no CGT (ie property tax) on homes. Of course an annual property tax (rates) that has to be paid before sale is even worse for many.
    
    However, none of it is a personal problem for Taxinda, because she earns $500,000 p.a. The problem for high asset, low income people is irrelevant to her.
    
    I’m planning to join Auckland Ratepayers Association, if they have a policy that rates should include no property tax, only payment for services.
    
    Taxes should be only on income. That can include property speculation, perhaps extend the ‘bright line’ to more years, but no property tax on long term home and rental property.
    
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    November 21, 2017 12:04pm
    - freethinker
      
      Yes CL I picked that up listening to Labour party radio this morning and the confirmation that rates are tax then as councils charge for neither goods or services then Gst on rates is a tax on a tax, now we have that Transparency Taxinda either admit and justify taxing a tax or change it.
      
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      November 21, 2017 12:58pm
- Ashley Schaeffer
  
  And right on cue, Stuffed news puts out a hit piece on Tame to cover for Dear Leader:
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/99054177/jack-tame-v-the-prime-minister-what-the-hell-did-i-just-watch
  
  The Left always end up eating their own.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:26am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Crikey, look at all the sycophants in the comments section.
    Jacinda still has her fan club.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:47am
    - Ashley Schaeffer
      
      I’ve always thought of Tame as the very definition of a sniveling sycophant. If he can muster the intestinal fortitude to tell his detractors to go roger themselves, he may even earn a hat tip.
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:59am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Yes Maggy, that surprised me, because sometimes the Stuff comments section has pretty sensible up-ticked comments. Now that the Herald has given up on comments, I don’t bother with the Herald much any more. MSM need to understand that people want to voice their opinions and won’t just ‘take it and shut up’.
      
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      November 21, 2017 12:30pm
      - freethinker
        
        Yes Media, Politicians, Bureacrats and Ivory Tower residing Directors by shutting out comments become so uninformed of public opinion that they are surprised when they are led to the Guillotine for re purposing.
        
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        November 21, 2017 1:01pm
- lifesgood
  
  I have to say “Good one Jack” but I was disgusted with Hilary Barry condemning him left, right and centre for daring to question her princess. Hilary claimed to have hundreds of anti Jack messages and only 2 pro. I call bull shit on that and think she is learning to lie from the masters.
  
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  November 21, 2017 12:47pm
kowtow

The police , media and leftists bang on about firearms and their solution is to fuck around license holders , when in fact the real problem is staring them in the face.
Better sentencing for criminals with firearms is the solution.
And yet they want to dump three strikes.

“Police are searching for a 26-year-old man after a taxi driver was shot and injured in Wellington at the weekend.
Dylan Nuku is described as being armed and dangerous. Members of the public should not approach if they see him, but call 111 immediately.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/man-wanted-over-taxi-shooting
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November 21, 2017 8:12am
Wangas Feral

So we now have a new government department. The Ministry of Pike River Mine re-entry or something. There will be a chief executive and a bunch of other paid bureaucrats and probably a tea lady. Office space to rent. How much is this farce going to cost? This action by Little is obviously a way to never get around to re-entering a mine to look for remains that probably wont even exist anymore anyway. A complete waste of tax-payer money.
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November 21, 2017 8:12am
- waikatogirl
  
  By setting up a new “Ministry of Pike River Mine re-entry” the COL, specifically Angry, are removing themselves from the firing line when safety issues are named as the reason entry to Pike River Mine is not practical. We all know that will be the final answer. Just playing it up for the families.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:18am
  - holysheet
    
    Minister to “Spike River Mine re-entry”
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:24am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Your’re right, Waikatogirl: it’s all about the feelings. That’s how this gvmt works and that’s how some Kiwis want it: their feelings satisfied, not facts and figures.
    
    Monk was on Morning Report and his claim against National was that they wouldn’t even meet with the families’ expert and that they weren’t transparent enough (I have no idea whether those claims are true). Monk was perfectly happy with Labour for basically saying the same thing (only re-enter if safe) because Labour’s been ‘straight up and down’ and ‘transparent’.
    
    That’s what mattered to him: getting a *feeling* that the gvmt cares.
    
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    November 21, 2017 1:01pm
- RalphT
  
  Ah, but they will be able to claim to be doing something about it, thus justifying the expense. Appearance is everything, especially with this lot (because there’s nothing else, such as substance).
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:20am
- pdm
  
  $23mill of taxpayers money to be used up – might as well waste it on a useless committee.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:21am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Cash flooding in to the coffers of the Wellington bureaucracy – time to relocate to cash in for the spend up to repay the PSA support.
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:35am
    - Liberty
      
      This is the result of being a smart arse and voting for a charlatan.
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:23am
- cmm
  
  It was a crafty move putting Andy – the Union Guy – in that role. There’s a limit to how much flack they will give him.
  
  Putting it in its own Ministry has a way of firewalling the inevitable fall out.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:26am
- Paulus
  
  Pleasing to see that the Labour NZF Government is proceeding in exactly the same way as National has been doing.
  No entry (EVER) before 2019.
  Except we will spend more money $27 million making the same decision with a new bureaucracy. But Angry says HE will make the final decision whatever.
  To the people of the Pike River agitators – you have been royally stuffed in believing anything the coalition tells you.
  There will never be an entry passed the rockfall if even then.
  Any ashes are well past that point.
  Winston where are you !
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:26am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It would be a damn sight cheaper to fly in China’s mine rescue experts and get them to say Yay or Nay about re-entry.
    
    These guys know their stuff…. they’ve had plenty of experience with coal mine explosions.
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:30am
  - cmm
    
    If you actually believe it is about the families you’re so wrong.
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:52am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Is this an even bigger waste of $27 million than Key’s flag referendum?
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:57am
  - waikatogirl
    
    So I no longer want to hear from leftie trolls that JK spent $26m on the flag referendum. COL wasting $27m of taxpayers money on this white elephant to apease the Pike River families. This on top of all the other money they have sucked from the taxpayer already for this folly. It is now time to tell the families, no more!
    
    edit: snap Captain!
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:07am
- Yvette
  
  The agency and re-entry is expected to cost $23 million over three years.
  The Pike River Recovery Agency will also be known as Te Kahui Whakamana Rua Tekau ma Iwa, which translates to “the empowering voice for the Pike 29”.
  
  But, as pointed out yesterday, Google translates that as “The 10th Independent Housing Council”
  
  And there is a chance that if only four bodies are recovered, at $5.75 million each, they may be the four who’s families would prefer that they remain at rest where they are.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:40am
  - labrator
    
    But, as pointed out yesterday, Google translates that as “The 10th Independent Housing Council”
    
    Sounds like a bad translation.
    whakamana – to give mana
    rua tekau ma iwa – 29
    
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    November 21, 2017 10:12am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Will Bernie be the CE of the new Ministry???
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:50am
- VicParking
  
  But remember its other peoples money (yours and mine)
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:54am
- Rich Prick
  
  The Families are turning out to be very expensive.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:58am
- Liberty
  
  Labour and NZF cried a river on National spending a few million on giving the populace the choice of a new flag.
  COL are now going to spend $23million on a few corpse which might not even be there.
  You would think the local labour MP would have higher priorities. Such as the road to Pike river. Basically third world with its one lane bridges.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:55am
  - calendar girl
    
    Yes, Damien O’Connor has been a local MP disappointment for quite some years. While he has great problems with the Greens, he now finds his party in a formal political agreement with them. Recently he has been elevated by PM Ardern to Minister of Agriculture, Biosecurity, Food Safety, and Rural Communities.
    
    There are a couple of lightweight portfolios in that mix, but let’s all hope that he doesn’t preside over irrevocable damage to this country’s all-important agriculture sector.
    
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    November 21, 2017 11:56am
  - freethinker
    
    Why not try using a small Drone with LED lights and a Go Pro Camera to establish what’s in the drift or beyond. If it gets blown up or fails the taxpayers loses $5,000 tops, I am available Taxinda to offer common sense economic solutions and for much less than your COL members but I can’t gtee you will like much less act on my offers.
    
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    November 21, 2017 1:10pm
    - Paulus
      
      The re-entry machine is nearly completed – and on trials, but has been canned at it is not human or looks like Angry and the Drunken Dwarf.
      
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      November 21, 2017 2:04pm
- Prince
  
  Not to mention Bernie Monk’s fees as a consultant.
  No wonder he is so appreciative.
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:05am
kowtow

The media are on the side of politicians who want to swamp their countries with third world migrants.

Thankfully voters don’t see it that way.

Brexit , Trump, and now Germany!

“With popular debate in Germany shifting to the right, many believe Lindner is trying to snatch votes from the anti-immigration Alternative for Germany party (AfD), which scored almost 13 percent in the election.”

https://www.thelocal.de/20171120/newcomer-lindner-under-fire-for-torpedoing-merkels-coalition-hopes
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November 21, 2017 8:15am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Sanity beginning to reassert itself in Germany – thanks to the AfD
  So Mad Mama Merkel is now suggesting a moratorium on allowing Syrian rapefugees to import their family members. AfD’s strong showing in the election is causing a re-appraisal of the policy to welcome in muslim colonialists en masse.
  
  But the AfD are still “far right” right???
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:18am
  - Paulus
    
    Mama Merkel cannot get a coalition so she is presently stuffed – well she stuffed up on immigration.
    Like our little Cinderella is doing – give it time.
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:28am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Good point Paulus.
      
      Maybe we should examine what electoral system is Germany using that has delivered the utter inability to form a government?
      
      Oh wait! It’s MMP! Surely this is just a coincidence that the system that delivers the CoL to us in NZ has delivered no government in Germany.
      
      What on earth are we using this stupid system here for?
      
      MMP – the electoral system you use when you want to fuck a country up!
      
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      November 21, 2017 8:47am
      - waikatogirl
        
        I didn’t vote for MMP!
        I didn’t vote for the COL!
        Not my PM and her crusty bunch of incompetent losers!
        ???
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:13am
      - KevOB
        
        I have a mod for MMP:
        Allow the present system but only allow elected members to vote on confidence and supply. That would give our present diverse mixture and allow speaking and committee work. List members could be in the Executive but denying them a vote on supply prevents an impasse. It prevents the horse trading possible with parties without electorate members. Even that could be simplified in the even of a tie at the general elections the government remains unchanged. Similarly in the House.
        
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        November 21, 2017 1:07pm
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Nice idea KevinOB. I could see that working and taking the power away from the loons.
        
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        November 21, 2017 3:17pm
Inandout

‘When people ask of me
what would you like to be,
now that you’re not a kid any more?
I know just what to say,
I answer right a away.
There’s just one thing
I’ve been wishing for.
I wanna be Clarky’s girl,
I wanna be Clarky’s girl.
Each night I sit at home
hoping that he will phone,
but I know Clarky has someone else’.

App. Bobby Vee
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November 21, 2017 8:16am
DifferentPerspective

Another Trump hater – suspended for sexual misconduct

So this is more than just a trend or a pattern, it seems to be hard-wired in the socialist DNA. It seems anyone who has a platform and attacks Trump (“oh my gawsh Trump is literally Hitler because he said the “Pussy” word”) is going to turn out to be a serious sexual deviant where women are concerned.

Glen Thrush – New York Times fake news White House correspondent has been stood down for sexual abuse allegations.
The more the loons on the left accuse others of abusing women, the more it becomes apparent that the Left is a hotbed of sexual abuse towards women and young girls and boys: Clinton, Weinstein, Affleck, Baldwin, Weiner, Franken, Thrush, Maher, Spacey, Murray, Williams, creepy Joe Biden, Schoen. It’s a huge list of Democrat worthies and each passing day and revelation suggests it is just the tip of the iceberg.

People in glass houses?????
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November 21, 2017 8:17am
- Wangas Feral
  
  But one devout christian right wing polly who is against gay marriage gets caught sucking a dick and all hell breaks out.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:20am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Yes we Leftists are very tolerant of homosexuality especially those whose family and community views mean that a closet is used.
    
    Imagine how unforgiving NZ would be if for instance we had a PM who was in a sham marriage and whose lesbian tendencies were an open secret – the only way you’d get away with it was if you were from the Left would be my guess.
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:32am
oldpark

Mammys’boy Jack Tame exposes similarities between poor wee Jacinda Ardern and her Sugar Daddy Winston Peters. Peters has a track record of making up stories to get public attention.
Sounds like Peters wee girl Jacinda the one he “Selected” to be NZs PM has been taking lessons from him on manufacturing events and fantacies that never happened.
Jack Tame interviewed her on the story that President Trump had mistaken her for Justin Trudeaus wife.
Tame exposed her lies about the story that never was and never happened.
Seems a bit like Peters her” sugar Daddy” has taught her well.
Social media has put the boot into Jack Tame for exposing “Commie Chic” Comrade Ardern as a liar.
Yes that is the same bunch of Lie-bour/Green sycophants who celebrated the song and danced to it about what a good idea if would have been if John Key’s daughter had been raped.
This time it is about Jack Tame being called a school yard bully. For exposing Ardern as just another grubby little sensationalist..
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November 21, 2017 8:19am
- Gravelroad
  
  “F…k John Key, F…k John Key, F…k John Key”, burn an effigy of him in the street, and issue threats against his family.
  Remember all that in 2014 staged by many we now have in power?
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:36am
  - alex Masterley
    
    Ms Ardern was an enthusiastic supporter of the band that came up with those memorable lyrics.
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:55am
    - KKKKatee
      
      There are some things Ardern should never reveal me thinks. So far she hasn’t learned to keep her gob well and truly shut. If she thinks that us oldies didn’t connect the dots re the despicable song threatening rape to John Key’s daughter, then she’s completely ignorant. So we assume, rightly or wrongly, that Ardern thinks there was nothing amiss with the lyrics of this song and the people who not only wrote it but who also sang it. Come on PM, you need to be able to draw a line in the sand on some issues…..
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:41am
Tempist

So is Auckland Council’s comms line in response to ratepayer concerns about increased valuations translating to higher rates (which are virtually guarnateed irrespective of the rating base changes) that basically it’s just a tax, suck it up and don’t expect any more services:
a) typical
b) arrogant
c) delightfully honest
d) all of the above
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November 21, 2017 8:19am
- hullkiwi
  
  Yes, I heard that bit of socialist bs on Red Radio this morning. Coupled with “an increase in rates doesn’t necessarily mean an increase in services”. Sadly, in the case of Auckland SuperCity that seems to have become an accepted truth/norm, but it is not right.
  So, message to National Party at the next election, have policies to properly fix local government in NZ and there are votes to be won. Just about every region has failing local government thanks to amalgamation that has failed.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:43am
  - VicParking
    
    Heard the same interview. Either she knows nothing about rates or she is incapable of explaining them.
    Rates depend on three main factors.
    Change to uniform charge (fixed) this effects all ratepayers the same.
    Land value rates, most increase in auckland valuations are in the land value so these rates will give the biggest effect
    Capital value rates, the amount council thinks your property should sell for. Load of shit as it worked out as a percentage which over years get more and more incorrect.
    Average increase was 46% but really means very little. Remember also council is pushing costs over to their CCO’s (Watercare) so expect your water water and wastewater costs to go up, huge. This will also have the effect of pushing capital value rates down but fixed charges and land value rates up.
    Next year Aucklands rates will be a mess which will make the “Cover Up” easier. Watch Goff’s bullshit next year explaining away the 2.5%. The only thing you can be sure of is the fact that staff numbers and their pay packet will go up up up up and away.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:16am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      I think the Council woman explained it quite well, given just a short interview moment: rates are basically a property tax. Your explanation is more detailed, and demonstrates that at least a third of the rates is plain payment for actual services.
      
      But the large ‘property tax’ factor is not something I’ve heard Auckland Council admit to in the past, and I’m keeping her statement handy. Remember Comrade Taxinda claiming there would be no tax on homes? With ‘property tax’ Auckland Council now admits that there is one.
      
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      November 21, 2017 1:30pm
      - Paulus
        
        But the lady from the Council is one of the over $250,000 + salaried staff so of course she knows what she is talking about.
        
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        November 21, 2017 2:07pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Well, I’m glad she put it so succinctly: don’t expect more services, because it’s really a property tax. That’s true and should be honestly discussed by ratepayers: do we want to be paying a property tax or not? If not, what would be fairer?
        
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        November 21, 2017 2:39pm
    - Gabby
      
      Goffy will do as Stevey Towns desires.
      
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      November 21, 2017 7:04pm
Simon

The PM is fake news. What a surprise.
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November 21, 2017 8:22am
- Rich Prick
  
  You mean flake news, don’t you?
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:25am
wiseowl

Kathryn Ryan interviewed Bronwyn Hayward , a social scientist what ever that is, about the Climate Change Negotiations in Bonn.
It was clear that although not binding , these talks were about more control by the UN.
I am surprised there has been little coverage /discussion about this further imposition on New Zealands’ sovereignty.
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November 21, 2017 8:27am
- Harkman
  
  Social scientist = Socialist
  
  (And Bronwyn Hayward is your quintessential moronic socialist).
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:53am
- Ashley Schaeffer
  
  As a Tarot Scientist, I’m disappointed at not having been consulted about Climate Change™.
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:23am
Huevon

Her “authority” voice is so phony and contrived. A try hard teenage girl is a 37 year old woman’s body. Then her goofy Pollyanna grin when she’s trying to deflect attention….argh!!!
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November 21, 2017 8:28am
- RF
  
  She has a touch of Cunners in her. Will the real one raise their hand.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:45am
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    Noboby’s raising their hand in your vicinity, Cunnerstable rf rf.
    
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    November 21, 2017 7:03pm
Simon

The left completing crack open about Trump.

But May, Ardern, Merkel, Macron & Turdeau. What a utter shower of shit. These clowns are the alternative.

Everyone in NZ knows Ardern at best is simply out of her depth. Even Labo supporters know it. They just hopes she muddles through.

Thank God for President Trump. He makes at least part of the world look sane.
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November 21, 2017 8:29am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  I agree with your commentary regards Ardern. It’s also true that of the whole inept crowd at Labour, she’s actually the best of the bunch. That is NOT a complement.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:02am
Paulus

Looking forward to hearing that Angry Andy is about to sort out the 20 years festering sore of the Ngapuhi Treaty claim as he claims.
Has he listened to the serious comments he received in Waitangi the other day.
They will not do any “group” scheme as they believe that each hapu can get more money for each settlement.
He is stuffing all the good work that Finlayson has done there.
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November 21, 2017 8:32am
- waikatogirl
  
  As Ngapuhi can’t agree who should represent “the tribe”, it sounded like Angry was suggesting the government would consider allowing separate hapu negotiate separate TOW settlements!
  
  Ngapuhi will never agree among themselves who represents the tribe.
  
  We all know what that would mean, continually topping up hapu who reckon their settlement wasn’t on a par with the neighbouring hapu, and on and on it would roll.
  Taxpayers to TOW’s =????????????
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:28am
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    Simple answer, tell Ngapuhi that if they can’t decide the claim will be out of time come 2020 I believe is the claims cut off date.
    
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    November 21, 2017 3:13pm
flipper

Flipper and the Memsahib have been away from the Den for several days attending a wedding in Rotorua.
It was a memorable occassion and the guests included several diplomats, mainly UK, Australia and the US 0f A.
There wrere at least three MFAT guests, and there happened to be a recently retired member of the NZ SAS
(not the VC).

It was obvious what/who would be at the center of the many conversations with them and with others – the
Peters/Ardern regime, and Peters and Ardern in particular.

There was not a good word heard in respect of either. In fact they were both regarded with derision.
While no one was impressed with Peters, Ardrn was the subject to most scorn, and there was much eyebrow raising
over the role apparently now being played by Dyke Simpson. They (those with whom I had a serious conversation) had
all read up on her various nefarious, notorious and questionable activities when she prowwled the Beehive and the House
of Reps as Clark’s H2.

There was among all that Flipper spoke profound concern that a “wet behind the ears” student politician whose
greatest claim to fame was working for Internationl Socialist Youth should be the political leader of NZ.
Reminded that Trump had no political experience, all came back with the answer that New York and
the other areasin which he developed properties were far more political than anything experienced by Ardern.

The most telling comment however, came from the recently retired SAS man. He was cutting on the Redmelons, and he said there were rumours that
Labour wanted females in the SAS (to instill a human touch!!!). his most derisory comments indicated that all current
SAS members were mortified by what they saw as shocking misrepesentation and gross incompetence by the new Defence Minister – someone who never serv ed in the SAS.

Ahhhh well, we have the lying Mr No to thank for the Ardern clusterfuck. Problem is the sufferer is New Zealand.
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November 21, 2017 8:33am
Hugh Pavletich

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NOVEMBER UPDATE … PERFORMANCE URBAN PLANNING WEBSITE

PERFORMANCE URBAN PLANNING – HUGH PAVLETICH
(refresh / reload if necessary )

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/index.html

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/General.html

Readers will note there has been a significant revamp to this archival website on restoring housing affordability … PERFORMANCE URBAN PLANNING.

The major reasons are…first…the massive time that has elapsed since Wendell Cox and I teamed up late 2004, to get the Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Surveys underway…and second…the huge political progress that is being made in my home country New Zealand and increasingly now in Australia, as the latest IPSOS issues poll illustrates…reported recently by Matt Wade of the Sydney Morning Herald.

The new New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern with Housing Minister Phil Twyford section at the top of this revamped website, speaks for itself.

Following intense public discussion on these issues since early 2005, there is now a broad consensus in New Zealand to deal politically effectively with the issues.

Appropriately…public opinion is the driver. … read more via hyperlinks above …

(Note there will be minor corrections, additions and tidy-ups over coming days)
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November 21, 2017 8:33am
- starboard
  
  Loon.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:40am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
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    The latest RBNZ survey of house price expectations brings a sharp dive in those seeing gains in the future. In fact capital gains may have vanished; the risk is now to the downside … Interest Co NZ
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/news/90954/latest-rbnz-survey-house-price-expectations-brings-sharp-dive-those-seeing-gains-future
    
    Each quarter, the RBNZ conducts a survey of household expectations.
    
    (Well, actually they take data from the UMR Research “nation-wide telephone omnibus survey”.)
    
    The questions the Reserve Bank is interested in relate to consumer price inflation and also house price inflation.
    
    Specifically, the questions about expected house price inflation are: … read more via hyperlink above …
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    .
    Most baby boomers want younger generation on the housing ladder … Rachel Clayton of Fairfax (Aug 2017)
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/96096009/most-baby-boomers-want-younger-generation-on-the-housing-ladder
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    The NZ homeowners who hate high house prices are revealed in Labour polling … Rob Stock of Fairfax NZ (March 2017)
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/90244287/The-NZ-homeowners-who-hate-high-house-prices-are-revealed-in-Labour-polling
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:09am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Labours Kiwibuild Deficit
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      When will the talking stop and the Urban Limits actually get changed?
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:26am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        All on Red … If the RBNZ poll (access Interest Co NZ article above) on housing inflation expectations above is any guide … soon.
        
        It is interesting too in how new Housing Minister Twyford is linking urban limits abolition and infrastructure bond financing introduction.
        
        In other words … both happening at the same time.
        
        If that is what happens, it would be my guess they will do both at the same time throughout the country.
        
        That would seem much more sensible to me.
        
        If that’s what happens, we will see very dramatic lifts in industry productivity and sharper pricing very quickly … as the industry guys are confident political / regulatory impediments are being dealt with effectively.
        
        They will either perform … or perish … of course.
        
        It’s their choice.
        
        In a nutshell … this governments survival is dependent on the restored trust and confidence of the development / construction sector.
        
        Governments lose elections … oppositions dont’ win them.
        
        Ask the ‘expert losers’ National … and read more in the GONE GONE GOING section of http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:59am
    - Harkman
      
      Hi Hugh,
      “The NZ homeowners who hate high house prices are revealed in Labour polling … Rob Stock of Fairfax NZ (March 2017)
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/90244287/The-NZ-homeowners-who-hate-high-house-prices-are-revealed-in-Labour-polling”
      
      There is no incidence that I can find of falling nominal house prices not leading to increased unemployment rates. Heck even falling real house prices leads to increases in unemployment.
      
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      November 21, 2017 10:44am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        The Ponzi days are coming to a rapid close.
        
        Welcome to the real world.
        
        It is of course a great shame John Key didn’t get on to this out of the 08 election … as promised … when Auckland was 6.4 times incomes. Now it’s 10.
        
        Pulling ponytails while standing idly by … while the housing market nationally was pumped up from about $600 billion in 08 to in excess of a trillion today, will be found ‘in the fullness of time’ not to have been particularly clever.
        
        There is just screeds of stuff on my archival website.
        
        Read in particular my article at the time of the January release of this years Dem Survey ‘New Zealand’s housing consensus: Where is the political leadership ?.’
        
        Why did Key choose to fail his country ?
        
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        November 21, 2017 11:25am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … A little sad recent history … idiot politicians on the Right who detest democracy and small government ….
        
        … talk about dumb … and deaf too obviosly ….
        
        OPINION: You will pay dearly for this Auckland Council – Opinion – The Aucklander News
        
        http://www2.nzherald.co.nz/aucklander/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503375&objectid=11002913
        
        6:00 AM Thursday Sep 16, 2010
        
        On the eve of election time in Auckland, it should be a time for hope – a time to look forward to a better place to live and work and play.
        
        Would that it were such a time. It is not.
        
        There still lingers an illusion that Aucklanders are voting for a more efficient form of local government. It is inferred by the grandiose but ultimately meaningless title Local Government Minister Rodney Hide dubbed this project: “Making Auckland Greater.”
        
        The question I have been asked repeatedly over these past few months of rampant and radical change: “Will my rates be cheaper?”
        
        The answer is no, your rates will not go down.
        
        How can I be sure? … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        November 21, 2017 1:55pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Labours Kiwibuild Deficit
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        November 21, 2017 1:57pm
oldpark

Heard the guy known as Bernie Monk being interviewed on the massive flip flop by the “Coalition of Bullshit” on Pike River. Bernie was trying to justify why such a flip flop by the Peters gang of no hopers . He just could not come out an say he has been conned by his fair weather friends before the election.
Of course he is not he only one to have been conned by the Peters Gang of sickos.
Ask his loyal over 65s Gold Card holders. With their small Super payments increases being cancelled. Not also forgetting no referenda on Maori Seats.
So Bernie Monk dont feel so bad about being sucked in by a meglamaniac in Peters. It is only his par for the course of subterfuge.
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November 21, 2017 8:38am
Ross12

Is this essentially Merkel saying she “gives up”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/11/20/merkel-signals-preference-fresh-elections-running-minority-government/
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November 21, 2017 8:51am
Manolo

Comrade Miss Ardern attempts to defend the incompetent Davis:
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/jacinda-ardern-defends-kelvin-davis-performance-as-acting-pm.html
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November 21, 2017 9:00am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  She said on RNZ when being questioned about Kelvin Davis’s trainwreck
  
  Three weeks in I think there is a bit of judginess flying around,”
  
  Anyone come across judginess before?
  Is it a Waikatoism?
  It seems to be missing from my dictionaries.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:31am
  - Ashley Schaeffer
    
    Accountability becomes “judginess” to the Lefty mind.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:49am
  - RF
    
    Maggy.
    
    Look up Poverdy. It’s just after that………………..
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:54am
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      Judginess comes before poverdy in my dictionary. lol.
      
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      November 21, 2017 1:02pm
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    Is it a Waikatoism?
    
    Maggy, waikatogirl has never heard the term “judginess”. I believe it may be a Cindyism. ?
    
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    November 21, 2017 10:03am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Whew, thanks for that.
      
      I was fearing I might have to enrol at Waikato Uni for a Bachelor of Communication Studies in order to understand this “new” language….
      
      but looks like my SC English is still OK.
      
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      November 21, 2017 11:03am
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    It’s an euphemism for the “Mobs gone for their guns”. It’s from the Pike River Saga on p.3678.
    The drowning of KD in Jacinda’ tears in on the following page.
    
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    November 21, 2017 1:16pm
- JibberJabber
  
  How DARE we expect competence from an incoming Government, the sheer fucking cheek of it!
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:51am
  - MrLovebucket
    
    Competence is a right-wing SWM construct that has no place in a progressive government that will measure success using non-traditional methods.
    
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    November 21, 2017 10:29am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Indeed, by Feeelzz charts.
      
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      November 21, 2017 1:58pm
- dime
  
  imagine if trum had used “judginess”.
  
  we would never hear the end of it. like his bigly.
  
  so lets use it forever.
  
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  November 21, 2017 1:10pm
flipper

Say Old Park….
As I commented yesterday, givc Monk a Knighthood (for advocacy) and the rest of his gang gongs of varying hue and tell him to fuck off. Never have so many unfortunate families received so much financial compensation as that paid t0 the Pike River families. Seal the mine, put up a super- duper memorial and we and they can move on.
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November 21, 2017 9:03am
- Gravelroad
  
  But, you see, the Pike River families have their own set of mining and safety experts telling them that all is achievable. Have heard this from Mr Monk personally. That is the reason they are determined to carry on.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:18am
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    Give the “families” access to the $23M and let them enter the mine as a private venture.
    
    So long as it properly overseen to ensure the spending is “for re-entering the mine” then I don’t care how it is wasted (given that the CoL have decided to throw it away).
    
    All that would be required is for a special provision to allow “the families” and whoever they commission to waive their H&S rights.
    
    The deep well of sympathy for Bernie and his lot is now empty, the nation as a whole would be best off without the lot of them.
    
    No one is talking about the real issue – that the mine should have been open caste and the deaths were caused by the environmental movement!
    
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    November 21, 2017 11:31am
- kevn
  
  flip… divvy up the wasted 23 million plus with the families and everyone will go away happy. Maybe?
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:18am
hullkiwi

CoL plans to introduce legislation setting child poverty reduction targets, and they want cross party consensus.
This was an item on 7.00am Red Radio news bulletin this morning.
WTF, legislate for a moving target that can never be measured, achieved and will always be amended by the next failing politician.
Brilliant, that’s why we all pay taxes & send these idiots to Wellington, in order that they can play gesture politics & tell us they are doing something about something that doesn’t exist.
FFS.
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November 21, 2017 9:15am
oldpark

Anyone notice that all the angst and uproar in NZs poitical landscape that the elephant in the room ,is getting a free ride ,,from a once was a real blog site.
The site that used to refer to Winston Peters as the unemployed pensioner from St Marys Bay Auckland.
Wonder why that type of omission has not been mentioned by the people who donate to the so called “truth” in the news.
It never can be taken seriously if the main meglamaniac Peters got a free ride and promotion before the election on that web site.
Now that promotion that has caused the same Peters to not have some type of mention,speaks volumes of someone backing a loser,and against the laws of natural justice.As well as the well being of the nation of NZ ,in a hostile world.
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November 21, 2017 9:22am
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Was This the Racist Blast of the Year?

I see a lot of half-witted, hair-raising stuff on this site, but I think this fellow’s is the crudest, most offensive, and least intelligent comment of the year so far….

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/11/general_debate_20_november_2017.html#comment-2081216
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November 21, 2017 9:23am
- starboard
  
  Why thank you..thank you very much. I can do better mortis, watch this space.?
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:27am
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    Idiot. The only thing worse than your ignorant post was seeing a couple of halfwits endorsing it with their own racist comments, and ten KKK supporters upticking it.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:36am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Make that eleven – I’ve just added an uptick to Starboards tally.
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:47am
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    Well done starboard – I think you ‘triggered’ moronissey. Personally, I thought you offered quite a reasonable way of dealing with the problem.
    
    Only a few more downticks and his rant will disappear and in a few upticks yours will be highlighted 🙂
    
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    November 21, 2017 11:43am
- Brito
  
  Which bit didn’t you understand Morry? Ask a question and I’ll see if I can help you through your current dilemma. And Starboard is quite right, but it wasn’t racist, it was a simple fact. The numbers don’t lie…only the left do.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:34am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Damn it – That’s a prize I wanted to win!
  
  Any prizes for 2nd place Morrissey??
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:35am
  - Morrissey
    
    Here you go EAD—you’ve won a date with this girl….
    
    https://boingboing.net/2016/12/21/kentucky-woman-launches-into-r.html
    
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    November 21, 2017 11:23am
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  hold my beer…
  
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  November 21, 2017 11:33am
Ross12

Oh the irony !! It gets a little bit colder in France, Macron & his mates are prattling on at the latest AGW talkfest in Bonn, a few nuclear power stations are down for repairs and electricity supply in France reaches it’s limits.
Don’t worry, good old, reliable, UK coal fired power stations to the rescue.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/18/french-reactor-repairs-generate-profits-old-uk-coal-power-plants
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November 21, 2017 9:25am
- kowtow
  
  But the UK conservatives are dedicated to fucking up their own coal!
  
  ‘ “The case against coal is unequivocal,” said UK climate minister Claire Perry, both on environmental and health grounds – air pollution from coal kills 800,000 people a year worldwide. “The alliance will signal to the world that the time of coal has passed.” The UK was the first nation to commit to ending coal use – by 2025 – but the electricity generated by coal has already fallen from 40% to 2% since 2012.”
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/16/political-watershed-as-19-countries-pledge-to-phase-out-coal
  
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  November 21, 2017 5:03pm
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    I cannot believe that figure of 2%, kowtow.
    The UK has huge onshore gas reserves available to them if they can get over the fracking hysteria.
    
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    November 21, 2017 5:43pm
oldgolfer

God, even Smalley has turned on Jacinda now, concluding a column on her gossipy recollections of world events by saying ”you are not in Morrinsville now”.
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November 21, 2017 9:32am
Morrissey

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Deadbeat Dads
No. 4: This scumbag still boasts that his parents were two of Auckland’s most notorious criminals (significantly, they were grog-runners)

A 16-year-old who died of alcohol poisoning earlier this year was reportedly egged on to drink by the son of Auckland Mayor John Banks.

Witnesses who saw Kings College student James Webster on the night he died say he was urged to keep drinking by fellow student Alex Banks…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10670194

He’s a deadbeat husband as well….
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/08/john-banks-told-mum-of-alleged-love-child-to-get-an-abortion-court-hears.html

Deadbeat Dad No. 1: Sir John Key
Deadbeat Dad No. 2: Bill English
Deadbeat Dad No. 3: Sir Douglas Graham
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November 21, 2017 9:33am
- Inandout
  
  And Cindy wishes she was a Mum, but Clarky is too busy.
  
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  November 21, 2017 9:38am
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    And how you fervently wish YOU were “Clarky”.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:46am
    - Inandout
      
      I’m blowed if I wanted to be Clarky.
      
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      November 21, 2017 10:12am
      - Morrissey
        
        I’m blowed if I wanted to be Clarky.
        
        Yeah right.
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:24am
      - Paulus
        
        I hear that Clarke is on RNZ this afternoon – presumably to tell everybody to be kind to his sleeping partner.
        The he can travel the world fist class RNZAF VIP Plane with her wherever she blows.
        Actually a crappy ex Canadian load of junk, so perhaps she should have her own dedicated new plane for herself – like Mrs Mugabe
        
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        November 21, 2017 2:16pm
    - freethinker
      
      If me and Cindy were the last humans stranded on a desert island the human race would become extinct.
      
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      November 21, 2017 3:22pm
      - Morrissey
        
        If you and any young woman were stranded on a desert island, the odds are that she would make a swim for it—-even if she could see there were sharks in the water.
        
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        November 21, 2017 8:08pm
- flipper
  
  Morrissey tries so hard to prove that “it” is a brainless arsehole.
  There is really just one arsehole commenting today – Morrissey
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:33am
starboard

Boring..?
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November 21, 2017 9:36am
- Morrissey
  
  Then read a book, my friend. Your brain needs exercise.
  
  http://onespokane.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Its-Good-For-You.jpg
  
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  November 21, 2017 11:27am
Brito

Current govt list of shame

1. Shane Jones – Porn star
2. Winston Peters – theft from public purse (i.e. being in parliament for years and doing fuck all).
3. Jacinta Garden – lying, commie, oral hygiene issue
4. Kelvin D – Ineptitude
5. David Parker – swivel eyed git

God the list goes on and on…
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November 21, 2017 9:40am
- Inandout
  
  Are you thinking what I am thinking of no 3 on the list? Nine out of ten dentists support oral hygiene.
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:15am
  - Brito
    
    Ring of confidence joke coming…
    
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    November 21, 2017 11:23am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      I seem to recall ,Brito, that you were guffawing about voting for this bunch of losers.
      I hope you made your packet of dough on the foreign exchanges, because you’re gonna need it now that everything is going up in price – including interest rates and the cost of living.
      Hope you choke on your words next time 😉
      
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      November 21, 2017 5:42pm
- Gabby
  
  6. Bitcho – foreign currency wheeler dealer
  
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  November 21, 2017 6:59pm
BananaLlama

The German Governments coalition talks have failed and now Merkel is demanding the public vote again because she doesn’t like the election results. I hope she hangs from the gallows within my lifetime.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42057108
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November 21, 2017 9:47am
- flipper
  
  The problem banana… is that you did not check with Peters, Ardern and Shaw bef0re making that 0hservation. Afterall, Peters, Ardern and Shaw are quick to use Germany as “THE” only MMP role model.
  
  80 Million v 4.65 million ? Geez H Christ on a bike!
  The consequence is that the school girl and the old man have inflicted rubbish on NZ. A pox on them all.
  
  So, I say banana ….
  let’s follow Merkel on this and have another election toot sweet!
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:05am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    The left also naively tells us how wonderfully diverse and humane Germany is, because of all the lovely refugees (they ignore all the attacks). And how great it is that many people live in apartments there instead of spread out suburbs like Auckland (I’ve lived in European apartments. They’re OK, but living in a house with a garden is much nicer). And that we should all be cycling to work, as many do in *flat* parts of Europe (need I say why most of us can’t?).
    
    They are utterly, naively in love with many of the European ways of doing things, some of which are turning out to be horrible mistakes (e.g. refugee crisis).
    
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    November 21, 2017 2:13pm
- BananaLlama
  
  Much like the CDU and AFD, National and its supporters will have to get over their hatred of NZF if they want to form a stable government.
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:13am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Banana, it wasn’t National negotiating in a duplicitous manner planning utu.
    
    The demise of NZF & Winnie the Poo will be a welcome breath of fresh air.
    
    What you fail to appreciate, if NZF lose 2.75% and this is proportionally split between National, Liebore & the Redmelons – National would be the govt with less than 50% of the vote. And most importantly Winnie Poo would be out.
    
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    November 21, 2017 1:46pm
    - BananaLlama
      
      Try it on with someone else, i was here when you were all crowing that Peters pension leaks would be his downfall. Look at you now. John Key did the right thing stepping down so that English could form a coalition with NZF but idiots inside the National party f’d things up.
      
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      November 21, 2017 2:58pm
Morrissey

No. 1 from your list is coming up in the “GROPERS” series; otherwise that’s a pretty unconvincing case you’re trying to make.
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November 21, 2017 9:48am
Digmen1

6. Carmel Sepuloni – Free money for life for all maori girls.
7. Andrew Little – Let all violent crims out of jail as I’m not working.
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November 21, 2017 9:54am
- Brito
  
  Cut and pate the complete list as it grows…
  
  1. Shane Jones – Porn star
  2. Winston Peters – theft from public purse (i.e. being in parliament for years and doing fuck all).
  3. Jacinta Garden – lying, commie, oral hygiene issue
  4. Kelvin D – Ineptitude
  5. David Parker – swivel eyed git
  6. Carmel Sepuloni – Free money for life for all maori girls.
  7. Andrew Little – Let all violent crime out of jail as I’m not working.
  
  8. Minia Ma-hoota – septicaemia award for pin and ink tattooing – best prop forward Hauraki Plains XV
  
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  November 21, 2017 11:27am
JIV

Watched Family Feud last night (dont judge me) and was surprised when they said 100 people were asked what advice they would give to the Prime Minister.

Top answer was QUIT.

The message will get through to her eventually.
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November 21, 2017 9:56am
- Morrissey
  
  Family Feud?!!?!?!?!?
  
  You have way too much time on your hands, as well as a high boredom threshold.
  
  https://funzro.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/you-need-to-get-a-life2.jpg
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:17am
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GROPERS
No. 6: Arnold Schwarzenegger

“Did he rape me? No,” said one woman, who claimed that the actor had touched her breast in 1980. “Did he humiliate me? You bet he did.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/oct/03/usa.filmnews

“GROPERS” is researched and presented by GroperWatch, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

No.1 George Herbert Walker Bush 
No. 2 Bill O’Reilly 
No. 3 Al Franken
No. 4 Robin Brooke
No. 5 Lester Beck
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November 21, 2017 9:56am
- JibberJabber
  
  What`s your point?
  Given that you are an apologist for sexual abuse by the lefty scum you grovel at the feet of.
  http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/morrissey-harvey-weinstein-kevin-spacey-comments-victims-der-spiegel-interview-rape-backlash-a8063476.html
  Hypocrite
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:09am
  - Morrissey
    
    Different Morrissey. He’s a Mancunian, I’m an Aucklander. And I would never, ever defend that halfwit Kevin Spacey, who is perhaps the most ignorant of all the faux-liberal Hollywood luvvies….
    
    https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-09032014/#comment-783598
    
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    November 21, 2017 10:21am
    - Brito
      
      Ah ha! Hiding up-there amongst the academic elite of Waiheke Island’s University of Dope and Hash Users.
      
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      November 21, 2017 11:29am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Come of folks, what’s with this automatic downvote for everything Morry says? Shouldn’t we judge each statement as it stands?
      
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      November 21, 2017 2:17pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Yes
        
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        November 21, 2017 6:55pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Good on you, Classic Liberal. You’re a diamond geezer, if ever there was one.
        
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        November 21, 2017 8:06pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Just asking why Bill Clinton doesn’t make that list, after all he has been accused of rape, and GHWB has only been accused of groping – and I suggest most people would imagine that rape is a more serious offense. Not that there’s any excuse for GHWB, he should certainly have kept his hands to himself, at his age one would wonder if he’s not going a little gaga
  
  Of course then there’s Spacey, Weinstein, and the whole hollywood pantheon of “stars” to add. Plus Creepy Uncle Joe Biden.
  
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  November 21, 2017 11:52am
  - hullkiwi
    
    They are not right wing, & therefore don’t conform to Minor’s twisted view of the world. The list will end when he gets to the po.. t…?
    
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    November 21, 2017 1:50pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Bill Clinton, Joe “Creepy” Biden, Kevin “Moron” Spacey and Harvey Weinstein are all on the GROPERS list. I only do one GROPER a day, so you’ll just have to wait. Hey, maybe one of them will appear tomorrow… or maybe not.
      
      And, although you don’t seem to have a clue what the term means, Clinton, Biden, and Weinstein are indeed right wing. Clinton did his best to smash the welfare and education systems in the U.S. and Biden has been a loud and shameless backer of every U.S. aggression in the last thirty years. Weinstein was one of the most brutal supporters of the Obama regime’s Hollywood-led vendetta against free speech. It’s because people like these corrupt and sleazy individuals dominate the leadership of the Democratic Party that Trump/Pence will be reelected in a landslide.
      
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      November 21, 2017 8:05pm
treadingthemill

Now here is a truly awful leader. This guy has to go after this totally unacceptable response.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/entertainment/malcolm-turnbull-cops-flak-after-hes-unable-name-single-ac-dc-song
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November 21, 2017 10:04am
- Morrissey
  
  There are many reasons to condemn Malcolm Turnbull, but not being familiar with the work of a moronic pop band is not one of them.
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:22am
  - treadingthemill
    
    Morrissey, you may need to do a serious search around your dwelling and neighborhood. Your sense of humour seems to have gone missing. And AC/DC were a hard rock band, not a pop band. Also, I don’t trust anyone who does not like AC/DC. They are probably some kind of dangerous extremist.
    
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    November 21, 2017 10:27am
    - Morrissey
      
      They’re boring, and one note. I did like “Thunderstruck” but they didn’t do anything else that was interesting.
      
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      November 21, 2017 10:34am
      - Longknives
        
        Let me Guess- Homebrew and Fat Freddy’s Drop more your style eh Morrissey?
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:41am
      - Morrissey
        
        Let me Guess- Homebrew and Fat Freddy’s Drop more your style eh Morrissey?
        
        You guess wrong, Longknives. I despise the Fat Freddy Drips—their barbecue reggae is bland, soporific and self-satisfied aural wallpaper. In fact, that try-hard faux-liberal John Campbell appears in one of their videos—which is just one more reason to hate them.
        
        Give me AC/DC any day over smug, “right-on” Wellington luvvies like the Drips and the godawful Fly My Pretties.
        
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        November 21, 2017 11:17am
    - Inandout
      
      If you mention AC/DC without emphasising the band, a rainbow roof will descend on you.
      
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      November 21, 2017 10:37am
    - pdm
      
      `Also, I don’t trust anyone who does not like AC/DC. They are probably some kind of dangerous extremist.’
      
      Shit I am in trouble.
      
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      November 21, 2017 1:13pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      TDM, for you:
      
      Two Cellos – Thunderstruck
      
      … and …
      
      Hillbillies – Thunderstruck
      
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      November 21, 2017 2:19pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Bully for you Morrisey, AC/DC are the “hard rock” equivalent of disco, 84 albums produced and only dedicated afficianado’s can tell them apart.
    
    Personally I prefer music, but taste is as taste does…
    
    Anyway, take an uptick, rare that you get one from me but this time the cause is worth it…
    
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    November 21, 2017 11:54am
    - Morrissey
      
      Our good friend Ed Snack writes: “Anyway, take an uptick, rare that you get one from me but this time the cause is worth it…”
      
      Thank you for that, Ed. I’m sure there will be many more in future!
      
      http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02527/ebert_2527712b.jpg
      
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      November 21, 2017 7:54pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Katy Perry fan you are, silly bitch try hard singer fan, suck on it
    
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    November 21, 2017 6:59pm
- kaykaybee
  
  Do you reckon Jacinda would be similarly asked a question like this, much less purloined for her answer?
  
  Nah.
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:32am
Longknives

Another issue discussed at the Pub last night was why on earth Ardern would tell such a story? (The ‘Trump thought I was Trudeau’s wife’ bullcrap)
Considering the Trumps and the Trudeaus have met each other before-And Trump clearly knows who Trudeau’s wife is…etc etc
Ardern is clearly quite smitten with the Socialist ‘Pin-Up Boy’ Trudeau- To the extent of making us stories linking them romantically!
It would appear Ardern is a Fantasist AND a Pathological Liar?
Is such a disturbed person really suitable to be our Prime Minister??
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November 21, 2017 10:12am
- Prince
  
  I think what Ardern said was probably true.
  Given she apparently followed Trudeau around like a love-sick puppy, Trump probably joked to someone that he thought she must have been his wife,not a leader.
  She didn’t get the joke, and is now trying to lie her way out of it, as usual.
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:30am
  - Morrissey
    
    Trump probably tried to hit on her.
    
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    November 21, 2017 11:11am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Hmmm, didn’t think that bad taste in women was one of Trump’s faults…
      
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      November 21, 2017 11:55am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Yes, Trump usually goes for really attractive ones. It’s not a politician’s job to be attractive, so no problem that Comrade Taxinda is pretty average, but let’s just say: the billboards were very photoshopped… Don’t be fooled by them, Morrie.
        
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        November 21, 2017 2:23pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Trump goes for models, not shielas from Waikato
      
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      November 21, 2017 7:02pm
dime

did chompers really say she was elected? lol

she won new zealand idol, found out on live tv and hugged people (but couldnt remember who).

the last bit may have been the first lie of her PM career.
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November 21, 2017 10:15am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  She was ‘elected’ Drunken dwarf elected her
  
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  November 21, 2017 7:03pm
Digmen1

New Zealand idol – very clever!
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November 21, 2017 10:18am
flipper

FUCK OFF YOU SILLY schoolyard romper … back to your romping with your schoolgirl toothfairy. Like you Morrissey, Peters and Ardern are a disgreace to New Zealand.
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November 21, 2017 10:23am
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Farmers ruin another river
17 November 2017

The Kaiapoi River is turning salty, and irrigation is to blame: A freshwater Canterbury river is on the brink of turning into a saltwater estuary, in part due to water abstraction, new data shows.

It has blindsided some in the community and would permanently alter the river’s character if the trend continued.

“The prospect of that river turning to a smelly, scum-filled seawater estuary is just totally unacceptable,” Waimakariri District councillor Sandra Stewart said.

The problem is caused by farmers taking too much water from the Waimakariri River, meaning that its flow is too weak to prevent salty tidal flows from entering the Kaiapoi. The solution is obvious: reduce irrigation flows. But that means reducing farmers’ profits, which was unacceptable under National. Hopefully with a different government (and a soon-to-be elected ECan) they’ll be able to stop the farmers poisoning this river before its too late.

http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/11/farmers-ruin-another-river.html

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/l/f/i/z/s/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620×349.1lfi0o.png/1504501119377.jpg
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November 21, 2017 10:33am
- Inandout
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10480601
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:43am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    We need to shut down Auckland, end dirty cities, perhaps a latte tax, ban people near beaches etc etc.
    
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    November 21, 2017 1:48pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      And stop eating. Those naughty farmers keep producing food for us!
      
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      November 21, 2017 2:25pm
- labrator
  
  I like how you mix opinion with source material. Intentional confusion or just low quality skills?
  
  Some of your source
  
  Some important bits:
  
  Consented abstraction from the Waimakariri River – including major schemes operated by Central Plains Water, Waimakariri Irrigation and Ngāi Tahu – has increased
  
  So all consented irrigation and talk of changing the plan now that the monitoring has indicated a problem. How very thirdworld!! I mean, how dare we monitor the environment to see if we’re damaging it, we should just all become vegans and live on one acre blocks immediately. Oops, missed the bit where we blame the farmers…
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:58am
  - Morrissey
    
    Why do you support this water policy?…
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/11/general_debate_21_november_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-2081716
    
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    November 21, 2017 11:19am
    - labrator
      
      That’s not a water policy you linked. Make more sense please.
      
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      November 21, 2017 11:42am
      - starboard
        
        Hahahahahahaha…Morris make sense!…hahahaha.?
        
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        November 21, 2017 5:13pm
      - Brito
        
        Back at the early opener I see Morry. Another jug, another sad old man. Oh well, bottoms up!
        
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        November 21, 2017 5:16pm
  - alloytoo
    
    I also note that “No Right Turn” does not allow comments.
    
    Doesn’t want to be caught Phriggeling perhaps
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Phriggeling&defid=4791753
    
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    November 21, 2017 11:30am
- rangitoto
  
  Reality. Farmers stop 6 billion from starving to death.
  
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  November 21, 2017 12:37pm
Right of way is Way of Right

Ladies and Gentlemen, our new Prime Minister,

Mrs Taxcinda Trudeau!
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November 21, 2017 10:53am
- RF
  
  Will she soak her new husbands nuts in warm milk ?
  
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  November 21, 2017 10:57am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Only ‘Almond’ warm milk, with a promise of ‘I love you’ every half hour from Gaylord
    
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    November 21, 2017 7:06pm
RF

I may have the details wrong but I was told there was a quiz show on TV last night called Family Feud. This where you have to guess the correct answer that has been pre- selected by the audience of 100.

One of the questions related to Ardern and I think it was what she should do…..the top answer was Quit.

For a Govt that’s only been in a few weeks its sure as hell very unpopular. That’s a record….
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November 21, 2017 10:54am
- Ashley Schaeffer
  
  A lefty mate of mine who was never shy at getting a dig in during the nine years National was in power has gone extremely quiet as of late. Overnight, politics has become a subject to be avoided. I’m too classy to return the favour but admit that his silent shame is immensely satisfying.
  
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  November 21, 2017 11:44am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    I’d love to know what he is thinking though. Keep us informed when he opens up his aching heart, won’t you?
    
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    November 21, 2017 2:27pm
- pejhay
  
  Just watched it on demand, and you’re dead right…
  
  What should the prime minister do? – Top answer – QUIT !
  
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  November 21, 2017 12:43pm
Manolo

Another anti-Trump hack on the spot:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them–with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.5d7b82a19775

Eight women have told The Washington Post that longtime television host Charlie Rose made unwanted sexual advances toward them, including lewd phone calls, walking around naked in their presence, or groping their breasts, buttocks or genital areas.
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November 21, 2017 12:00pm
Manolo

The pervert Senator Franken is exposed:
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
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November 21, 2017 12:07pm
KKKKatee

Our jibber jabbery Prime Minister has a lot to learn about idle chatter. It’s come back to bite her on the backside. I’m thinking that Tom Sainsbury ain’t her BFF any more. Could be wrong.
But my guess is that he has been sent to coventry for making a bloody idiot of her…..
I’m rather nervous about pillow talk between her and Gayford as well – I’m not sure I’d trust him with the nation’s top secrets either…..
We can’t rely on her to keep secrets, so I’m suggesting our national security could be at risk ….
Loose lips sink ships and all that – a very important lesson for the PM to learn although one would have hoped she didn’t need this cockup of international proportions to remind her so…..
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November 21, 2017 12:22pm
Brito

I finally worked up the courage to watch Tame interview Ardern. Can’t stand watching her talk so it is a sacrifice on my part.

When people laugh so much, and wave their arms faster it tends to indicate that you should look at my arms and not the facts and the laughter is a cover for a very nervous person.

What a bullshitter! Calling it a ‘trifle thing’ is her opinion. When you’re the PM of a country (my country and NOT my PM by the way), your statements are never trifle.

Please make it stop!!!
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November 21, 2017 12:46pm
- dime
  
  im the same as you…
  
  she couldnt be more full of shit.
  
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  November 21, 2017 1:05pm
  - pejhay
    
    Agree, Jack Lame didn’t do himself or the acting Prime Minister any favours.
    
    It is just acting isn’t it, we are in a tragic comedy show, aren’t we ?
    
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    November 21, 2017 1:21pm
- KevOB
  
  The ladies not for watching.
  
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  November 21, 2017 1:27pm
- Fletch
  
  She really is acting like a gossipy schoolgirl. She really doesn’t have the tact or diplomacy that the leader of a country requires.
  
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  November 21, 2017 3:06pm
- Gabby
  
  If she’d worn a nice yankidolla gstring for you to focus on you might not have spun out, poor Bitcho.
  
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  November 21, 2017 6:50pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”a nice yankidolla gstring”….
    
    It’d be the equivalent of sprinkling Vajazzle on roadkill.
    
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    November 21, 2017 7:10pm
  - Brito
    
    Gobby, the adults are having a discussion. Now away you go because nothing brightens our day like your absence.
    
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    November 21, 2017 7:52pm
    - Gabby
      
      The fogeys are having a whinge more like, Bitcho. Just fondle your money if you’re feeling bitter.
      
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      November 22, 2017 9:13am
      - softail 1450
        
        grubby ,it’s far to early for the liquor grubby,remember what happened last time .
        
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        November 22, 2017 9:21am
Manolo

We have money to burn, seems to say comrade Ardern.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/money/news/govt-boosts-student-allowances-and-loans-by-dollar50-week/ar-BBFp3Mf

As promised, the Government has increased the weekly student allowance and weekly student loan by $50 a week. The increased rates will come into effect from January 1 2018.

The change will affect more than 130,000 students in full-time study.
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November 21, 2017 12:48pm
- KevOB
  
  Where’s the appropriation by Parliament for the increased payment?
  
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  November 21, 2017 1:30pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    You’re correct, it wasn’t in the budget & it works out over $250m per annum if the number of 130,000 students is correct. Then add in free tertiary student access another $1.2billion when it is fully rolled out in 2025.
    
    Don’t worry, it’s not their problem, it’s our problem as taxpayers & the next government’s when they are faced with budget deficits again.
    
    Liebore Economic Management 101, I need Valium.
    
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    November 21, 2017 2:06pm
lifesgood

So Clarke Gayford is going to be a guest commentator on Jim Mora’s programme today. Whaaaaat? Whhhhhy? Who gives a flying f**k what he has to say. How does he qualify? Is it even ethical? I used to think highly of Jim, not any more he has about 20 lefties to one right winger on his shows.
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November 21, 2017 1:02pm
- Harkman
  
  So JK had a beer with the ABs after a victory and the left had a hissy fit. When they prostitute themselves in the media, nothing.
  
  Remember all those bogus Marsden fund grants to Helen’s manboy. Total fraud, but nothing from the left, complete silence.
  
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  November 21, 2017 1:52pm
- kowtow
  
  To be fair , he’s been a contributor for a long time . No real reason to drop him now but at least , unlike with many in the commentariat , you know up front where he’s coming from.
  
  Two of the best regulars on that are Michelle Boag and Stephen Franks, overtly political backgrounds , but one wouldn’t suggest dropping them.
  
  As to thinking highly of Jim , he’s another media Prog .
  
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  November 21, 2017 2:07pm
Manolo

Is Mamma Merkel finished?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/882136/Angela-Merkel-Germany-coalition-collapse-AfD-MP-no-hope-new-elections

The professor of political economy and finance predicted a swift end for Angela Merkel’s political career as talks collapsed and new elections loomed.

https://www.rt.com/news/410435-merkel-migrant-policy-coalition/
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November 21, 2017 1:02pm
- Scott
  
  Great news. Germany desperately needs a new leader who will not want to open their arms to everyone from the 3rd world that wants to live there.
  There’s been some great news lately. The demise of Merkel, the passing of Charles Manson, a credible accuser of Al Franken during his time as senator, there’s three just off the top of my head. Oh and the defeat of Isis thanks in no small part to one Donald J Trump, who promised to bomb the hell out of Isis and who has faithfully lived up to his promise ?
  
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  November 21, 2017 1:43pm
  - Brito
    
    That Scott, is called a bloody good day at the office.
    
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    November 21, 2017 5:18pm
  - Harriet
    
    George Soros will be the next to die I hope. He funds the worst of people in the west who undermine their governments and their sovereignty.
    
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    November 21, 2017 5:27pm
  - realityczech
    
    No one dropped more bombs than Obama. 76 for everyday he was in office. Trump is big cuddly love bear compared to Obama.
    
    The extent and coverage of Obama’s war mongering is incredible. He lacked Trump’s statesmanship and pragmatic intelligence so relied on war and destruction.
    
    Trump made a sensible choice to limit immigration from a few Muslim countries that Obama had murdered thousands in.
    
    https://www.stpete4peace.org/obama-fact-sheet
    
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    November 21, 2017 5:27pm
Digmen1

I hope she is finished.
She will go down in history as a German traitor.
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November 21, 2017 1:35pm
- hullkiwi
  
  The problem for Germany there are few suitable replacements in the CDU.
  
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  November 21, 2017 2:09pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Real conservatives just need to stop believing the ‘AfD is far right’ lies and actually read their policies. They would see that as the CDU has become more and more left wing and pro immigration, the AfD’s sensible policies are now the natural place for a conservative, moderate-right voter to go.
    
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    November 21, 2017 2:34pm
starboard

I wana see a poll. Where the fucks a poll when you want one.?
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November 21, 2017 5:16pm
- Brito
  
  Latest poll result.
  
  99.99% of contributors to KB state Toothy is not their PM.
  
  99.99% of contributors to KB await the rapture (when National will come down and we will be saved)
  
  99.99% think SPLOOGE is deeply unhappy today.
  
  99.99% will applaud the demise of Merkel and an adoption of Eastern European management of the Muso problem.
  
  99.99% of every utterance out of the Tooth Fairy’s mouth is a lie.
  
  99.99% of people think Morry has a drinking addiction which causes blurred opinion.
  
  etc etc etc.
  
  How do those numbers stack up?
  
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  November 21, 2017 5:24pm
  - starboard
    
    Looks good to me.
    
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    November 21, 2017 5:43pm
- Digmen1
  
  According to my records there “may” been one poll in December 2014 after the election.
  
  There were two in February 2015
  But it looks like there were none by Colmar Brunton in 2015.
  
  Somebody has to pay them to do them.
  
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  November 21, 2017 5:25pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Well there is North Pole, and South Pole. Then there is North Pole, Alaska – 20 min by bus from Fairbanks. Nice place.
  OK, I’ll get my coat and hat
  
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  November 21, 2017 7:12pm
starboard

Dylan NUKU..the Police want to see you NUKU. Dont think you can go around shooting taxi drivers and get away with it.
When the armed offenders squad finally corner you like the filthy sewer rat that you are, please resist and run at them. Go on NUKU, do you feel lucky, punk?
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November 21, 2017 5:51pm
- Longknives
  
  Yeah but as you know it’s ‘Whitey’s Fault’ Starboard!
  ‘Colonialism’…or ‘White Privilege’ or something..
  
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  November 21, 2017 6:12pm
  - starboard
    
    Id like Morris’ opinion on NUKU…
    
    *tumbleweeds and dust*…*banjo playing quietly*..*rattlesnake*….
    
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    November 21, 2017 6:28pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Speaking of Brito’s polls, here’s one for Morrissey:
  
  Which version of Starboard’s comment do you prefer – A or B?
  
  A
  
  Dylan NUKU..well well, another violent maori. Shoots a taxi driver in Wellington. Fuckin mongrel scumbag piece of shit ‘special’. How much longer do we have to put up with these filthy violent dirtbags? Find him, arrest him,put him in front of a judge, when found guilty…life imprisonment no parole. Lets do this. You will be found NUKU.
  
  B
  
  Dylan NUKU..the Police want to see you NUKU. Dont think you can go around shooting taxi drivers and get away with it. When the armed offenders squad finally corner you like the filthy sewer rat that you are, please resist and run at them. Go on NUKU, do you feel lucky, punk?
  
  Your preference will be duly noted, Morrissey!
  
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  November 21, 2017 6:29pm
- waikatogirl
  
  What the hell was a kid doing with a gun on him, imagine it wasn’t just in case his taxi fare was bigger than he wanted!! Guessing he is a gang prospect?
  
  Not very bright. Not worth going to prison for literally a few dollars taxi fare! What an Einstein. ?
  
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  November 21, 2017 7:25pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    What the hell was a kid doing with a gun on him
    
    This creep has form. Last time it was a knife if it’s the same Nuku.
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:01pm
    - realityczech
      
      This shows gun laws don’t work.
      
      1. Illegal to have a pistol.
      2. No license.
      3. Illegal to shoot people.
      
      Solution: More laws ? 🙂
      
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      November 21, 2017 8:04pm
      - Jack5
        
        ☪Kearealityczech – so you reckon if the taxi driver has been packing, he could have blown the little fucker right out of taxi?
        
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        November 21, 2017 8:56pm
      - realityczech
        
        You know he was MUSLIM!!!!!! Jacksie ?
        
        Bet you reckon the perp should have double-tapped the prick just like they taught you in the IDF.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:04pm
      - Gabby
        
        Unenforced laws rarely work.
        
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        November 22, 2017 8:40am
    - Gabby
      
      Thought the name seemed familiar.
      
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      November 22, 2017 8:41am
Digmen1

Especially with that lovely tatoo, he’ll be easy to spot.
Add one year to his sentence for every day he does not give himself in.
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November 21, 2017 5:59pm
Lucia Maria

NZQA strikes again! Turning children off mathematics since 2016!

How good is your maths? The questions that drove 15-year-olds to tears
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November 21, 2017 6:19pm
- rangitoto
  
  A rope hanging from two points approximately takes the shape of a catenary, which is described by the hyperbolic cosine function. Seems a bit advanced for NCEA level 1. It also ignores the effect that the weight of the seat has on the rope. The person who set the question is the one who failed miserably. They need to go back to school. The teacher quoted in the article who thought the shape is a parabola is also a numpty.
  
  This sort of nonsense never happened over the two thousand years when students were taught geometry properly using Euclid’s Elements. It was good enough for the likes of Johannes Kepler and Sir Isaac Newton. Some of the proofs are a bit cumbersome but teach the principles well.
  
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  November 21, 2017 7:27pm
  - Gabby
    
    Plus, that loose rope under the swing is an elfinsafety NIGHTMARE.
    
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    November 22, 2017 8:37am
realityczech

Lucia, not everyone is on the Autism spectrum like you. I do think we need to cultivate innate abilities in kids better, however not everyone is into numbers.

I thought the questions were good. The reason they cried is because of our absurd pop culture where women have declared emotion is superior to facts.
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November 21, 2017 6:29pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Thus speaks someone who is clueless about the mathematics curriculum for NCEA L1, and… well, just about everything else.
  
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  November 21, 2017 6:32pm
  - realityczech
    
    Yes I am “clueless about the mathematics curriculum for NCEA L1 and… well, just about everything else.”
    
    However you will note I confined my comment to those things I do know about aspie bitch.
    
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    November 21, 2017 6:37pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      Again, proving your own ignorance.
      
      The only thing you have right is that I am a bitch. I’ll own that one.
      
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      November 21, 2017 6:43pm
      - realityczech
        
        Great you got the main point and accepted I was right. Smart arse.
        
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        November 21, 2017 6:49pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Lucia Maria:
        
        I am a bitch
        
        Johnboy won’t mind – as long as you wear those knee-high leather boots that he talks about!
        
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        November 21, 2017 6:51pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Nostradamus, that’s a whole different thing entirely!
        
        realityczech, give an inch, take a mile …
        
        Ok, I’ll give a bit more. They are great questions, but not for an exam and not for 15 year olds.
        
        They’d be the sort of questions that would be wonderful in assignments that are worth marks. Not that any such thing exists in NCEA. But in magic lala land, sure. Great questions.
        
        Just goes to show how disconnected from reality the examiners are.
        
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        November 21, 2017 7:19pm
      - realityczech
        
        Lucia, the questions are presented in a tricky way but the basic maths is simple.
        
        This is about applying maths to practical situations. It should only be an issue if the students have not been taught how to identify the relevant factors when presented with a problem.
        
        I don’t have the benefit of knowing how they have been taught. If this was dumped on them randomly without suitable prior learning then it is way too hard. However the practical real world approach expressed in the questions is commendable in itself.
        
        See we have agreed on two points tonight 🙂
        
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        November 21, 2017 7:25pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        It should only be an issue if the students have not been taught how to identify the relevant factors when presented with a problem.
        
        That seems to be the point everyone is grumbling about. The maths was actually at the next level and they were given insufficient info to deal with those questions having regard to the level they were at. Happened to be speaking to an experienced maths teacher today who said it was ridiculous. That was my survey of one person with a margin of error of 0%.
        
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        November 21, 2017 7:54pm
      - realityczech
        
        thedavincimode, after a somewhat adversarial start it appears we agree on the following points:
        
        1. Lucia is a bitch.
        2. The students were not properly instructed.
        3. Lucia is a bitch.
        
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        November 21, 2017 8:01pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        We can agree on no such things. But carry on executing your inverted fruit loop – don’t let me interrupt you.
        
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        November 21, 2017 8:09pm
      - realityczech
        
        Okay so you disagree on Lucia claiming she is a bitch and you disagree with Lucia claiming the students were unprepared.
        
        Dear oh dear, you are a very emotional and stupid wee man.
        
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        November 21, 2017 8:16pm
- Gabby
  
  True, some people are just really czitty.
  
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  November 21, 2017 6:42pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Glad you’re here gabbs. So what’s your take on jacinda’s latest global fuckup? Do you think she needs more coaching on her lying technique? At least to the point that she can at least convince her own troops she’s not telling porkies?
    
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    November 21, 2017 7:30pm
    - nasska
      
      ….”Ardern said she believed it was possible to survive politics without lying.”…..
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11920796
      
      But she’s not taking any chances!
      
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      November 21, 2017 7:52pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        Her problem nasska, is that she’s taking a chance every time she opens that fearsome gob.
        
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        November 21, 2017 7:56pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      TDM
      
      Well, if eco maori at The Standard is one of the “troops” you have in mind, then there’s not much hope for the rest of them:
      
      Sorry but Jacinda does not waste her time trying to be deceitful like national does. I think Jacinda plan to bring climate change refugees to NZ is awesome they can work and buy renewable energy plant and build there house to survive global warming. Or buy here in NZ if that’s the answer. She will teach them how to survive global warming this is better than my idea of gifting solar power as they will appreciate the solar plant and look after it this is what friendly humane naibour do if we don’t act now it will cost US more in the future this is what the good people of OUR WORLD SOCIETY expect of us Ka pai
      
      That’s one serious mind trip!
      
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      November 21, 2017 7:55pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        If eco maori is that stupid Nostra, it beggars belief that he/she didn’t vote for winnie mugabe and pinko first like the other morons (that includes you commie chuck).
        
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        November 21, 2017 7:58pm
    - Gabby
      
      I don’t reckon ecomurray is that stupid nostra, damingygoat. That stupid nostra would’ve come up with something more coherent and less intelligent.
      
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      November 22, 2017 8:32am
Piniwi

Well done KB to see how hard the trolls are now battling to change the subject at will. The COL are proving even more incompetent than we imagined which is attracting some Media hacks catching on to the majorities opinion. It is staggering to see how long it is taking for the final policy plan to be released. Perhaps the old geezers 38 page addendum was more of an interim internal gap filler. Meantime the 100 day clock is still ticking while the list is still to be updated. It is also likely while the mini budget might be limited in content is just got more expensive as the shed another $0.01 overnight. Show us the money?
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November 21, 2017 7:29pm
- realityczech
  
  “Well done KB to see how hard the trolls are now battling to change the subject at will.”
  
  It is general debate. What is the subject ?
  
  I thought it is how Chemtrails are being used to hide the reality of the flat earth and turn us all gay ?
  
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  November 21, 2017 7:44pm
Nostradamus

Lprent tells us what it’s like to have a sore bum:

If anyone has been wondering where i have been for the past 3-4 days. It has been due to the most awkward (and embarrassing) of injuries – bruising the tailbone. While dismounting from my new commuter e-bike on Friday morning, I managed to catch my foot in a strap of the bag of work clothes on the back of the bike. Over I went landing arse first with the bike on top of me, and my blessed helmet managing to stop my brains from spilling on to the concrete.
…
But alas later that afternoon it turned out that when I stood up out of my chair for lunch, that wasn’t the only thing I’d bruised. My arse hurt to the point that I was having to waddle around my tail bone. Headed home early to get a med check (ok – nothing particularly busted), some anti-inflammatory support (mostly too late apparently), and several days lying in bed with my arse poking up in the air either bemoaning my fate or sleeping.

At least he’ll have lots of time to do coding and ban dissenters!
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November 21, 2017 8:07pm
- thedavincimode
  
  That’s his story and I expect he’ll be sticking to it.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:29pm
  - starboard
    
    Thats what happens when you ride around on a poofy electric bicycle sans seat.
    Grubby lefty.
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:39pm
- realityczech
  
  “my new commuter e-bike”
  
  Kill it with fire before it lays eggs.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:43pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Lucky he is a male and his coccyx was tucked into his pelvic cavity otherwise his coccygodinia might have required anal locks.
  https://www.livestrong.com/article/324771-coccyx-injuries-and-dislocation-exercises/
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:56pm
EAD_TWO

Anyone else sick and tired of these sorts of people’s “hate” and “racism”?

Three-year-old Jewish children told ‘the non-Jews’ are ‘evil’ in worksheet produced by London school

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/three-year-old-ultra-orthodox-jewish-children-told-the-non-jews-are-evil-in-worksheet-produced-by-10481682.html

“It’s not uncommon to be taught non-Jewish people are evil in Jewish schools. It is part of the prayers, teaching, their whole ethos,” she said.

Describing it as a form of “indoctrination”, Ms Green added: “Psychologically, you become so afraid of the world out there after being taught how dangerous and bad and evil non-Jews are, that it makes it harder to leave.”

Independently translated from Yiddish for The Independent, the worksheet’s first question reads: “What have the evil goyim (non-Jews) done with the synagogues and cheders [Jewish primary schools]?” The answer in the completed worksheet reads: “Burned them.”

Another question asks: “What did the goyim want to do with all the Jews?” – to which the answer, according to the worksheet, is: “Kill them.”.

No wonder the juice are the most tribal people in the world❗

Quite a bit different from YTs education when they have it drummed into them that “we are the world”, “we are all one race – the human race”, “Islam is a religion of peace” etc.
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November 21, 2017 8:17pm
- realityczech
  
  Jews are tribal. It is one of the central tenants of the faith. So is the fact they came from what we now call Africa. Another tribal place.
  
  Ask a Rabbi: http://www.aish.com/atr/Tribal_Affiliation.html
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:20pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    They also vote very tribally as well – a higher % of them voted for Macron than Blacks voted for Obama:
    
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/french-israelis-vote-overwhelmingly-for-macron/
    
    Based on the muh anti-semitism kvetching we hear about “fleeing France” I would have thought the Jews might have voted to stop Islamic immigration into France but instead they voted almost to the margin of error for the candidate wanting to actually increase it!
    
    We should therefore expect to see no more headlines like this then:
    
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/27/israel-urges-jews-leave-france-benajmin-netanyahu-continues/
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:32pm
    - realityczech
      
      Oh you Nazi you…
      
      ‘Islamization of Europe a good thing’
      Rabbi Baruch Efrati believes Jews should ‘rejoice at the fact that Europe is paying for what it did to us for hundreds of years by losing its identity.’ He praises Islam for promoting modesty, respect for God
      
      https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4299673,00.html
      
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      November 21, 2017 8:38pm
- treadingthemill
  
  Religious extremism of any sort is a worry, especially when it promotes hatred. But, call me cynical, I have a sneaking suspicion that opposing religious extremism and hatred is not your point. Quite the opposite.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:29pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    au contraire treadingthemill.
    
    are you familiar with the ancient Goyim proverb Sunlight is the best disinfectant?
    
    By bringing these numerous examples into public awareness, RealityCzech and I can help the public identify racial and religious hatred wherever it may be in order to stamp it out.
    
    Here is a quote I’ve shared during the past week from a Nobel prize winning author that identifies the most ancient hatreds of them all:
    
    You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators.
    
    Expose hatred wherever you find it!
    
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    November 21, 2017 8:50pm
    - realityczech
      
      Herr EAD SS-Obersturmbannführer , opposing religious bias and persecution makes you evil.
      
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      November 21, 2017 8:53pm
    - treadingthemill
      
      are you familiar with the ancient Goyim proverb Sunlight is the best disinfectant?
      
      Yes. I think it’s particularly important with regards to the ideology you promote.
      
      RealityCzech and I can help the public identify racial and religious hatred wherever it may be
      
      Including your own? Or do you not realise that the ultra-orthodox Jews you claim you’re exposing are no different to the White Christian supremacist ideology you espouse? See, that’s the thing, I can’t see any difference between what they say and what you say. The fact that your both followers of the same Middle Eastern god is a big clue that you and they are on the same page.
      
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      November 21, 2017 8:55pm
      - realityczech
        
        Trodden, you refer to the ideology of not singling out Jews for special treatment ?
        
        Are you not a fan of that “ideology” ?
        
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        November 21, 2017 8:58pm
      - treadingthemill
        
        No, I refer to Eads neo-Nazi ideology.
        
        I don’t think you have any ideology other than trolling.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:03pm
      - realityczech
        
        “No, I refer to Eads neo-Nazi ideology.”
        
        Nazi:
        
        1. Treat all people equally.
        2. Non violence.
        3. No buying into group think to persecute others.
        4. Opposing war.
        5. Treat G-ds chosen ones like everyone else.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:08pm
      - treadingthemill
        
        Well, none of those points are descriptive of Eads ideology.
        
        1. Treat all people equally. Nope, he wants to privilege white people.
        2. Non violence. No, he has supported war in some of his posts.
        3. No buying into group think to persecute others. Nope, he buys into white racialist group think as an excuse to perswecute Jews, blacks, gays…
        4. Opposing war. See point 2.
        5. Treat G-ds chosen ones like everyone else. Also no, he has elevated them to the position of his own personal Satan.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:14pm
  - realityczech
    
    ” I have a sneaking suspicion”
    
    Thanks for sharing your emotions. No doubt an Obama supporter who thinks the Jews are being attacked.
    
    https://www.stpete4peace.org/obama-fact-sheet
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:00pm
    - treadingthemill
      
      The only politicians I support are New Zealand ones. Apart from the fact that he was President of the USA I couldn’t tell you much at all about Obama. I don’t follow US politics. And I’m not partial to the Jews, as they have no relevance for me. They don’t have any relevance to Ead or you either, they just act as a cipher for your respective hysterias.
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:07pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Here’s a good book for you to read troden.
        
        It’s called Tell the truth and shame the devil written by Jewish author Gerard Menuhin. How do you know I’m not a dissident mind like Menuhin?
        
        https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tell-Tuth-Shame-Devil-Recognize/dp/1591481724
        
        Below is a the books synopsis
        
        PS: Sorry for the big copy/paste but as it’s coming up 9.30pm its not too bad a breach of etiquette:
        
        Have you ever asked yourself why the world won’t come to rest?
        
        Why your parents, grandparents or great-grandparents had to die in wars that never should have occurred in the first place?
        
        Well, this book holds the answer…
        
        This book is of monumental importance for the people of the world today. Many know that something is not right in the world. Nations engage in perpetual war while bankers and armaments makers line their pockets from the carnage. The average citizen of the world has been cut out of the decision-making process of government, whether he lives in a democracy, republic, theocracy or dictatorship. All the while, the ruling elite grow stronger and richer, as the real producers struggle to survive. Behind the scenes, events are controlled by a coterie of ethnic puppet masters who work their marionettes in high places out of public view.
        
        How did this world get to the dark place it is today? Who could have stopped it and what can we do today?
        
        The book consists of four sections. The first section concerns Adolf Hitler, his character and intentions, and the real causes leading up to the outbreak of WWII, including the actions of the real culprits and the rejection of the great lie.
        
        The second section enlarges on the activities of the real culprits, provides a historical overview of their progress, their nature, their power over finance and the media, and the methods by which they achieved it. It includes insights into Freemasonry, the European revolutions, the influence and control of education and foreign policy, the creation of the EU, the New World Order and the evolution of the plan through the same powers and their proxies, since the 17th century up to the present.
        
        The third section concerns the First and Second World Wars (what the author refers to as “the Second Thirty Years War”), their conception, funding and inescapable continuity; current laws against freedom of expression, and the evolution of the Orwellian state; the importance of U.S. support for the Soviet Union throughout the Cold War, and Communism’s significance in the plan; the true origins of the enemy; Palestine’s occupation and its fate as an example of our common fate; plus much more.
        
        The fourth section identifies the true origins of the enemy, and Palestine’s occupation and its fate as examples of our common fate.
        
        The text is interspersed with “Memos from Today,” that emphasize its relevance by citing current events. Hundreds of quotes are included from a wide range of authoritative sources, original and translated.
        
        The last pages of this manuscript comprise conclusions and predictions. The narrative is dense and packed with facts, and backed by expert testimony. At times, the style is personal, even casual, and absolutely non-intellectual. It has been assumed that a personal touch makes the contents more accessible. The author is the son of the great American-born violinist Yehudi Menuhin, who, though from a long line of rabbinical ancestors, fiercely criticized the foreign policy of the state of Israel and its repression of the Palestinians in the Holy Land.
        
        You should also go read the readers reviews – you might learn something ❗
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:23pm
Jack5

Lincoln University, once one of the power houses on which New Zealand’s export industries were built, gets the news on how it should be changed.

Recommended changes include:

1. Slashing the number of courses.

2. Increasing the number of Maori and Pasifika students.

If they can just get the whitie crap out of it, Lincoln will soar again. (That includes string theory, ☪ Kearealityczech. Too bloody hard.)

Less of this Western science bullshit. More practical courses on how to grow kumara and taro? More Ph.D. courses in social work, oral history, the origins of tattoo art, and the sociology of multiculturism?

The leftists have fucked tertiary education in the West.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/344385/major-course-cuts-ahead-for-lincoln-uni
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November 21, 2017 8:49pm
- realityczech
  
  Jacksie, what do you think is the final solution to the Maori question ?
  
  I only ask due to your personal experience in taking over the lands of the native peoples.
  
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  November 21, 2017 8:55pm
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    ☪Kearealityczech – I am greatly flattered that you would ask my opinion on the future of the indigenous people of Aotearoa.
    
    The honour of the request is the higher since I haven’t even thought myself remotely worthy of applying for associate membership of the Southern Waffen SS commanded by your good self and Herr EAD – I don’t presume to think I would be accepted if I did apply, though I might meet the scalpel-sculpted penis requirement that you promote.
    
    Since I live in nearby New Zealand, I would say the solution will lie with the future Chinese governor of Xin Xiland, which will have control of Aotearoa.
    
    The indigenous folk of Aotearoa will likely be accorded the same protected status as other non-Han minorities, such as the Mongolians, the Manchu, Uighurs, Tibetans, the Zhuang, the Miaio, and so on.
    
    I would say there is a strong possibility they will be grouped as a subsidiary of the indigenous people of Taiwan, from whom the indigenous people of Aotearoa descend.
    
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    November 21, 2017 9:07pm
    - realityczech
      
      “scalpel-sculpted penis requirement that you promote.”
      
      A requirement of both Judaism and Islam.
      
      Also you don’t get any pork crackling either way, or crayfish.
      
      No wonder I am an atheist ❗
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:11pm
      - Jack5
        
        Fuck, I’ve eaten crayfish!
        
        Just when Israel and Saudi Arabia were getting together.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:16pm
      - realityczech
        
        “Just when Israel and Saudi Arabia were getting together.”
        
        The biggest recipient of US aid and the biggest buyer of US arms are getting together and you are surprised ?
        
        Jacksie you are thick as shit.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:24pm
      - Jack5
        
        If I swat hard, might you and Herr EAD let me re-sit the entrance test for your corps?
        
        That Mein Kampf is a hard tome to get your head around, though.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:30pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Just when Israel and Saudi Arabia were getting together.
        
        I would hope RealityCzech, that the fog of propoganda is starting to lift from the normies eyes as to how the world really works.
        
        But if Jacksie is in anyway representative of the average punter then we’ve got a long way to go ❗
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:31pm
      - realityczech
        
        EAD, why don’t you comment daily for the persecution and extermination of: Indians, Chinese. Muslims and darkies ?
        
        You filthy Nazi you ! Get with the KB program.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:36pm
      - Jack5
        
        ☪ Kearealityczech, you full well know the 卍 (or is it 卐) agenda.
        
        First the Slavs then the Jews have got to go. One genocide at a time.
        
        How the Hell did EAD let you into the 卐 corps? Let alone promote you to Unter-Führer …
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:48pm
      - realityczech
        
        Jacksie you are showing your tribal religious roots by framing everything in terms of genocide.
        
        Perhaps you should speak to other Rabbis about your thoughts ?
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:58pm
      - Jack5
        
        Whoops! My mistake. It looks as though, in the southern Waffen SS, 卍 (or 卐 ) is out and the old Kea trademark, ❗, the red exclamation mark, is in.
        
        What the ‼ is going on ⁉
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:00pm
      - Jack5
        
        EAD, Mein Herr, I seek leave to address a question direct to you …
        
        Who are these “normies”, of whom ye speak?
        
        Surely this implies that your good self, your deputy –
        ☪Kearealityczech – and your follower, are abnormals.
        
        Need you be so hard on yourselves?
        
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        November 21, 2017 10:09pm
    - Jack5
      
      ☪Kearealityczech – I hear that the Beijing Opera is interested in the potential of Lizzie Marvelly.
      
      I’m surprised, because I thought she was a bit of a warbler. Do you have any opinion of Marvellous Lizzie, oh great mountain parrot, with your ear for mimicry?
      
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      November 21, 2017 9:16pm
      - realityczech
        
        You would root it Jacksie.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:27pm
      - Jack5
        
        That’s a thought.
        
        But, then, you’d probably have to praise her singing.
        
        There are limits to hypocrisy.
        
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        November 21, 2017 9:31pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Peace in Syria at last?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/21/syria-military-operation-wrapping-up-putin-tells-assad-in-russia-talks

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/11/assad-putin-saving-country-171121061839648.html
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November 21, 2017 9:26pm
MrTips

This blog gets weird after 10pm…..
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November 21, 2017 10:17pm
- softail 1450
  
  tips. , it’s the liquor …
  
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  November 22, 2017 5:54am
Manolo

The perv is fired:
http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-rose-cbs-fired-20171121-story.html

Charlie Rose’s CBS News career came to an unceremonious end Tuesday when the network fired him over allegations of sexual harassment.
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November 22, 2017 6:53am
Surely Knott

Super City, Super Contracts. Super is not better. Ventia is in the local papers apologising over unmowed parks over winter.What annoys me is that Auckland Super city has given a 5 year $266million contract to an Aussie company to mow our lawns and run our swimming pools. What do the unions say about this. Surely an Auckland company or a number of smaller Auckland businesses could do this job well at the right price. And it would help give opportunity to those working in cleaning and lawn mowing and facilities maintenance industry etc. Surely it’s not just about mandating a minimum wage but actually growing opportunities for Auckalnders.
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