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Maggy Wassilieff

There are times when I’m ashamed to admit that I am a graduate of Massey University.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/researchers-under-scrutiny-after-noise-experiment-prompts-violent-reaction-20171109-gzihnl.html
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November 13, 2017 10:15am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  yeah – there’s only one disease locals near the windfarms suffer. That’s right . . .
  ‘nimbyitis’.
  Mags bags post one – me likey.
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:21am
- flipper
  
  M, did you work your way through that?
  Or did the taxpayer foot the entire/most of cost? 🙂
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:22am
- Biscuit
  
  Maggy, this WON’T do.
  
  I expect the first post in General Debate each day to be INSTANTLY-downtickable!
  
  (I only ever went to Massey once. It was the turnabout point in a Car Rally one of my first-ever job’s Social Club arranged one Sunday, heh heh.)
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:26am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I only ever went to Massey once
    
    Three years in that windy hole was overkill…but when I arrived at Victoria to do my graduate degrees, I couldn’t believe that you could shove an entire university into such a tiny space.
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:18am
    - Biscuit
      
      Ah Maddy the trick was to have a flat right by the Cable Car.
      
      Do I need to draw any pictures?
      
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      November 13, 2017 11:47am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      My lab on the top floor of the New Kirk Building gave me a bird’s eye view of that flat.
      
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      November 13, 2017 12:19pm
      - Biscuit
        
        😯
        
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        November 13, 2017 12:35pm
  - Paulus
    
    Sob Sob – I have never been to Massey University – the closest I came was to the place in West Auckland with the same name.
    
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    November 13, 2017 2:05pm
- realityczech
  
  “the adverse health effects of wind turbines will eclipse the asbestos problem”. He also likened the wind industry’s tactics to Adolf Hitler. ”
  
  This is why. They are reaching approved conclusions and insist on telling the truth instead. Dam those scientists to hell !!!! 🙂
  
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  November 13, 2017 12:25pm
softail 1450

I see peters has got his squeeze with him on the big trip ,she certainly makes him look better.
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November 13, 2017 10:15am
- sooty
  
  Looking after the manbag.
  
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  November 13, 2017 12:06pm
- Gabby
  
  Just like you look better spread across your banana seat softcock girlybike.
  
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  November 13, 2017 3:50pm
flipper

I have been thinking about DPF’s comment on the Redmelon joint leadership scam.

I suspect that David is being too kind in deference to his hyper-sensitivity to gender equality. But I cannot, seriously, regard any of the named idiots as being worthy of leading a key party in the H Reps.

Just look at them and ask whether you would employ any of them to fill any key role in your business:
All four potential candidates are strong in different areas. Davidson is big on social justice issues like Turei was. Genter is an expert on transport and climate change issues. Sage has a very deep background in conservation and Logie has done much work in the area of domestic violence.
To my mind not one, not a single one, should be in Parliament, let alone have responsibility for any Ministerial portfolio or responsibility.
They have already set there too long for any good that may be doing. Away with them and let’s have done with them (with hat doff to Cromwell and Avery).
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November 13, 2017 10:17am
Manolo

The end of the world is near, said the doommongers:
http://nypost.com/2017/11/11/turns-out-trump-didnt-ruin-americas-economy/

Of course, other predictions were more dire — particularly those about the stock market.

Finance expert Steve Rattner foresaw “a market crash of historic proportions” under a President Trump. Moody’s warned of a “weaker” economy. Many said 2% GDP growth was the best that could be hoped for.

Other doomsayers included Mark Cuban, CNBC’s Andrew Ross Sorkin and firms such as Bridgewater Associates and Macroeconomic Advisers. (A less-dishonorable mention goes to Nobel-winning economist Paul Krugman, who at least walked back his doomsaying about “a global recession, with no end in sight,” soon after election night.)

In fact, the Dow has climbed more than 25% since Hillary Clinton conceded. And the first two full quarters of Trump’s term both saw growth of 3% or more.
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November 13, 2017 10:18am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The end of the world has been near every decade for as long as I can remember.
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:41am
- Harkman
  
  “Mark Cuban, CNBC’s Andrew Ross Sorkin and firms such as Bridgewater Associates and Macroeconomic Advisers. (A less-dishonorable mention goes to Nobel-winning economist Paul Krugman”➡all are Anti-Trump Democrats. Seriously though, Krugman is an embarrassment to the (Bank of Sweden) Nobel prize in economics.
  
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  November 13, 2017 11:15am
cas

As Cindy is still vigorously pursuing resettling 150 refugees can she tell us
1 that if 88% have mental health problems, how will our under fire from David Clark mental health system cope?
2 How many people will that end up having to be resettled once all the families and extended families come in?
3 Will this resort to an increase of boat people trying to make it to NZ as they see us as a soft touch
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November 13, 2017 10:19am
- stigie
  
  Acting Prime Minister Kelvin Davis was on the AM show this morning and was asked about the concessions that were made at the TTP negotiations.
  He stumbled and stuttered is way through looking completely lost and finally there was really only one concession. Garner put the hard questions to him, I felt embarrassed that he was running the country and just so far out of his depth !~
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:22am
  - kevn
    
    Stig… yes, labour, a shallow puddle of talent indeed.
    
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    November 13, 2017 10:26am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Kelvin trotted out the government line that the CTTPP (or whatever) is now much better for exporters. He couldn’t answer the follow up question on HOW it was now better than the TPP11?
    Yes, well out of his depth.
    
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    November 13, 2017 10:44am
  - Harkman
    
    Kelvin might be a nice guy (who knows?) But he is really dumb.
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:17am
    - Paulus
      
      Davis is not dumb – just a school teacher out of his depth away from Northland.
      Normal then.
      
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      November 13, 2017 2:08pm
  - howitis
    
    You can see Davis for what he is.
    Dumb as well an A-grade crim-hugger.
    
    A lot of these Northland Maori blokes are dominated by stroppy women.
    To make it to headmaster he would have kowtowed to the vast majority of women on staff.
    He would have left well alone and basically been a figurehead. This suits his type. Weak men. Surrounded by women who make the decisions.
    
    They appear to have prestige (mana) but are at the beck and call of the women who run their lives. (H1, H2, Cindy)
    His stable mate John Hatfield (aka Hone Harawira ) is the same.
    
    They are harassed and harangued for so long they get triggered very easily.
    We have seen this with Davis in the last 3 months.
    They no longer have the propensity for original thought or analysis and woe betide if they get out of line. The handbags come flying.
    
    Davis is a sheep in wolf’s clothing.
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:33am
- Huevon
  
  If 88% have mental health issues…well, then it’s a hop, skip and jump to “sexual emergencies” and/or hurling down Queen St in a truck screaming Allahu Akbar.
  
  No thanks Jacinda.
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:27am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Why should Berlin, Manchester, New York, Boston, Garland, Paris, Chattanooga, Lyon, Copenhagen, Ottawa, Brussels, London, Fort Hood, Rotherham, Little Rock, Barcelona and pretty much all of Sweden have all the fun? Let’s do this!
    
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    November 13, 2017 10:49am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Has Labour costed out the likely expenses of providing mental health care to 88% of the 150 refugees, as well as their settlement and welfare costs?
  
  (Sound of crickets chirping…)
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:43am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Of course not. They have already proved any costings are as reliable as fairy dust.?
    
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    November 13, 2017 10:46am
  - starboard
    
    Costed ??!!
    Bawahahaha!
    Liarbor wont understand ‘costed’..it has more than 1 syllable!
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:27am
  - Gabby
    
    Their large families will be brought in to care for them o dark spam.
    
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    November 13, 2017 3:58pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Has this dumb arse bint actually thought about downstream impacts of AU putting travel restrictions on Kiwis?
  
  It looks like Cindy is playing a long game to get a UN role
  
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  November 13, 2017 1:27pm
  - sooty
    
    Can’t do that and breb aswell. She will have to make up her mind soon. She’s getting old.
    
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    November 13, 2017 6:08pm
Manolo

Time is almost over for Mrs May:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/tory-turmoil-as-40-mps-say-may-must-go-kkg3w6l89

Forty MPs have agreed to sign a letter of no confidence in Theresa May as European Union negotiators threaten to block trade talks until March unless Britain agrees to settle the Brexit divorce bill.
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November 13, 2017 10:20am
EAD_TWO

Soy Boy Ben Mack is fresh at it again. This time, rather than writing in the NZ Herald about how he is “terrified of Winston Peters”, the people who run the Washington Post have given him a global platform to paint NZ out to be a totalitarian nightmare full of pitchfork wielding white males:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/11/08/how-the-far-right-is-poisoning-new-zealand/

This is what he actually wrote (this is no misprint nor tongue in cheek)

What’s happened in New Zealand isn’t just horrifying because of the long-term implications of hate-mongers controlling the country, but also because it represents a blueprint that the far right can follow to seize power elsewhere.

Appealing to ethnically homogenous, overwhelmingly cisgender male voters with limited education and economic prospects who feel they’re being left behind in a changing world is nothing new for the far right.

This is not satire folks!
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November 13, 2017 10:21am
- chris
  
  As soon as you see the word “cisgender” in an article, there’s no point reading it. I made the mistake of reading his/her article about how nothing will change under the Jacinda Ardern government, and what a lot of twaddle that was.
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:36am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Is “cisgender” for sissies?
    
    I can’t get the connection out of my mind…
    
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    November 13, 2017 10:44am
- backster
  
  No but it would be more truthful than most articles in the Washington Post and totally in keeping with it’s Tikanga.
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:44am
- flipper
  
  It is crap…..
  But many (I wont overstate and say most, because that is what the Peters/Ardern Regime does) in the US no longer take the Wa Pist seriously. My relatives in Florida, Colorado, Portland and New York say that is, like the grey lady, now a load of crap.
  
  But Mack is a fucking idiot. Perhaps he is one of those who came into NZ under McCarten’s scam.
  
  The arsehole should be deported ….. before lunchtime!
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:53am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    @ Flipper,
    
    I’ve been trying to work out this morning how this relative nobody called “Ben Mack” got a gig writing for Martin Baron at the WaPo on NZ matters where he spouts such sh*t about our country to an international audience.
    
    He seems to be some kind of a rootless cosmopolitan having only been in NZ for two years after previously living in Germany & Sweden so hardly qualified to give such “expert opinion” on NZ matters.
    
    It can’t find out his actual nationality but here is his Twitter profile picture:
    
    https://mobile.twitter.com/benmack_nz/photo
    
    To look at him, it’s obvious he’s not exactly German, Swedish, French or even British for that matter.
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:00am
    - treadingthemill
      
      He’s American, from Portland, Oregan.
      
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      November 13, 2017 11:02am
    - Rich Prick
      
      That’s funny, he looks exactly as I expected. I’ll wager he grew up in one of the wetter parts of Oregon.
      
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      November 13, 2017 11:07am
      - sooty
        
        What mould behind his ears, like geoffry palmer.
        
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        November 13, 2017 12:10pm
    - flipper
      
      EAD_two
      
      The following is the comment from my brother-in-law who lives in Florida;
      
      “ So someone that’s lived in NZ for a year is now a political expert on the country. On that basis, I’ve been in the USA nearly 30 years so I should be running the Post. You’re right, they’ll print anything now for readership. “
      
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      November 13, 2017 12:27pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      He looks like a prat.
      
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      November 13, 2017 12:42pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      EAD:
      
      He seems to be some kind of a rootless cosmopolitan
      
      If you mean “rootless” as in virgin with no prospects of getting laid, you’re probably right. If you mean “rootless” as in geographically-confused individual, you’re probably right. You’re probably right on both counts!
      
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      November 13, 2017 12:44pm
  - Brito
    
    Say no more….
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11865378
    
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    November 13, 2017 12:48pm
- Harkman
  
  ” a blueprint that the far right can follow to seize power elsewhere.”
  What??? NZ has been taken over by the far, far left.
  
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  November 13, 2017 11:20am
  - treadingthemill
    
    It hasn’t been taken over by the far left or the far right.
    
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    November 13, 2017 12:31pm
kevn

E2… I used to read the Washington Post years ago. This is a reminder to still not bother.
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November 13, 2017 10:25am
Sofia

Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters has launched a legal battle to find out who leaked details of his superannuation over payment.

All media reports I have seen fail to explain if “leaked details” actually refer to
‘details’ as in the dictionary definition: “specific itemized information’, in this case: an amount of overpayment, period of that amount being payed, interest involved if any, or penalties and attributed fault, or just the more general fact that Mr Peters had a communication from MSD which, as Peters himself confirms, was to do with irregularities in payments, which were immediately put right.
In fact, were any real details leaked or just that the “event” had happened.

Former National Party campaign communications manager Clark Hennessy is also named. The affidavit lodged with the HIgh Court alleges Hennessy was the most likely source of the leak – stuff, this morning

If Winston’s law team think Hennessy the most likely culprit, why is he not investigated first, before involving the others.

And if one of the nine named by Winston’s law team is the leaker, are the other eight, if not acting with him in any way, in turn able to sue Winston?
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November 13, 2017 10:27am
oldpark

The Winston Peters “selected” NZ pm. What an embarrassment on the world stage “Commie Chic
Comrade Ardern meddling in the politics of a Sovereign Nation Australia .Why would she think NZs are ready for the import of so manY illegal emigrants into NZ .Many of them said to be child molesters.
Wonder what the meglamaniac Peters thinks of what part of chaos will be created in NZ should Comrade Ardern fulfill her misguided commie attitude. At least all chaos and disruption by the illegals ,if they get here ,can be led at the feet of NZs “Poll Pot” Peters.He after all “selected” Comrade Ardern to embarrass NZ as PM.
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November 13, 2017 10:29am
- MrLovebucket
  
  I wonder how many will end up running for parliament under the Greens
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:41am
starboard

Greetings from Brisbane tax dodgers. Another stunning day here lazing around the pool.
Aussie certainly is the lucky country.
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November 13, 2017 10:31am
- waikatogirl
  
  Taking a holiday from Thailand starboard?
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:50am
  - starboard
    
    Yup WG…kickin back in QLD for a few weeks b4 heading back to Thai-vegas.
    Top weather and everybody seems happy…plus all the wimmin folk dont wear just black all the time.
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:09am
- GazzaW
  
  As one of our neighbours’ daughters will attest to. She has just requalified as a teacher in Queensland on a salary $21000 higher than she earned in NZ and purchased a brand new 3 bedroomed home in suburban Brisbane for $415000. NZ trained nurses seem to be heading across the ditch at the same rate as teachers right now. We can spare neither.
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:53am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    And so the exodus begins…
    
    (I doubt that my daughters will stay in this country, on account of the low wages, high costs, taxes and high prices.)
    
    That is what happens when you live in a backwater. Your children leave home and never come back.
    
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    November 13, 2017 10:57am
    - GazzaW
      
      With two of our three kids now living offshore and many of our friends now flying longhaul to see their grandkids I fear that NZ is becoming the Ireland of the South Pacific. Diaspora is I believe the correct terminology.
      
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      November 13, 2017 11:04am
    - Digmen1
      
      Yes we don’t need to worry about immigratoion boosting our population with so many NZer’s leaving and about to leave as we are such a small country that it is hard to be viable.
      
      But IF
      Australia was not so close, did not speak the same language and did not let Kiwis in visa free, then people would have to stay here!
      
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      November 13, 2017 12:14pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Well Digmen1,
        The way the new Arden regime is going, it won’t be long before Australia will no longer let NZ passport holders in visa free…
        
        Wait a minute!?!
        
        You don’t suppose this is all part of Labour’s grand plan to force people to stay here?
        
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        November 13, 2017 1:36pm
      - sooty
        
        Must think that’s better than razor wire.
        
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        November 13, 2017 6:13pm
    - softail 1450
      
      ,odakyu-sen my oldest son is being scraped every week for (depending on hours worked) $730/$780 tax ,he will be leaving and taking his highly sort after skills with him to Aussie,it can only get worse with this tax and spend govt we have now.
      it’s outrageous that his weekly tax is more than his mortgage payments ….
      
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      November 13, 2017 12:52pm
      - realityczech
        
        “it’s outrageous that his weekly tax is more than his mortgage payments ”
        
        Softy are you suggesting that Taxcinda puts the interest rate waaaayyyy up ?
        
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        November 13, 2017 6:23pm
      - Gabby
        
        He’s fed up with being doubled to work on the healing loline softcock.
        
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        November 13, 2017 10:04pm
  - Gabby
    
    We should pay health and education ceos 20 x the personnel we’re running short of. Bound to work.
    
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    November 13, 2017 4:07pm
    - Brito
      
      Gobster where have you been hiding you dirty little sheet stain?
      
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      November 13, 2017 4:48pm
      - Gabby
        
        Her’s a yankidolla Bitcho, give yourself a brisk rubdown.
        
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        November 13, 2017 10:03pm
  - suzieq
    
    Provided, of course, that Ms Ardern’s attempts to have Manus Island chaps settled here doesn’t result in Australia no longer laying out the “welcome mat” to self-selecting migrants from NZ …
    
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    November 13, 2017 8:08pm
- stigie
  
  Good on you starboard, i’d expect Splurge to be on here shortly doing the same but with a dozen sheila’s hanging off him and every look at me word being spouted !~
  
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  November 13, 2017 11:10am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stigie:
    
    Splooge claims to be in northern Queensland at the moment. Perhaps Starboard could pay him a visit and see whether all of his claims (perhaps excluding the one about an 8-inch cock) stack up?
    
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    November 13, 2017 12:46pm
    - GazzaW
      
      Only a cheapskate heads to Northern Queensland in the ‘wet’. Chances are that it’s pissing down right now, humid as buggery and the ocean is full of stingers. That’s why he’s stuck inside in the aircon trolling KB as per normal.
      
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      November 13, 2017 1:16pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Mission beach. 29 degrees partly cloudy. It’s lovely
        Spent a couple of days in the tablelands, quite cool there.
        Just come back from a walk and having lunch by the pool.
        I do come here quite often so I know well what to expect.
        
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        November 13, 2017 5:13pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Well of course stigie, Splodge does have a big yacht and an Audi. Shame about his politics!
    ?
    
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    November 13, 2017 12:48pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      It’s an 80 foot Audi, 8 inch yacht and a V8 d**k, if I recall the yarn correctly.
      
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      November 13, 2017 2:36pm
      - stigie
        
        Yep. you heard correctly Rich Prick !~
        
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        November 13, 2017 3:46pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Ohhh the pain is real for you lot.
        Not only are you very bad losers you are also fantasists.
        It must suck to be as bitter as you all are and it kind of shows in your comments.
        I’m here to make fun of you and it’s really really easy to do.
        Keep it up.
        
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        November 13, 2017 5:16pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        So being at Mission Beach, does that mean you can use only the missionary position?
        
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        November 13, 2017 5:39pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        I’m glad you revealed your intent splooge, because it’s not at all obvious from your efforts so far.
        
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        November 13, 2017 6:22pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        And do let us know when you own beach front property on Waimea. At the moment you only appear to own depreciating bits of metal and calcium. A bit like an investment in the Labour Party.
        
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        November 14, 2017 12:03am
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

I am really annoyed that Tooth Fairy is pushing ahead with the illegal immigrants issue. Why the hell she wants to invite trouble just for the sake of some photographs and a couple of minutes on CNN? She is really now pissing off one of our close friends and neighbour. I hope Turnbull turns her away and advises her to keep her teeth inside her mouth for good.
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November 13, 2017 10:37am
- Gravelroad
  
  Is this something to do with UN agendas? Is Helen Clark pulling the “humanitarian” strings of her muse, Ms Ardern?
  All through the election campaign we were told the priorities were fixing our horrendous levels of child poverty, housing availability and water pollution.
  What’s happened to all that then?
  
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  November 13, 2017 12:42pm
Left Right and Centre

I see all the Xmas puke is covering the shops.
Seven excruciating weeks or 12% of each year.
Then boxing sale week.
Then new year sale week.
Bastards.
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November 13, 2017 10:40am
Morrissey

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Ten Reasons We Got Rid of National
No. 8 (revised*): Hopeless Hekia Parata

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2015/02/speaking-of-national-and-arrogance-hekia-parata/

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11483573

https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-30082011/#comment-369467

* Numerous interlocutors have pointed out that my original choice for No. 8, Tau Henare, actually left parliament in 2014. I think the hapless Ms. Parata is a far more pleasant substitute for the Scourge of Cleaning Women.
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November 13, 2017 10:44am
- starboard
  
  How many ‘leaders’ did liarbor chew thru before settling on the current loser morris? * nigger chortle*
  
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  November 13, 2017 11:01am
  - Morrissey
    
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    So Jacinda’s a loser, is she? So that explains the unhinged comments and the bile on this site. Thanks for that.
    
    http://i.imgur.com/1G8oUhI.png?1
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:08am
    - starboard
      
      How many morris?? Yes, thats right. Now we have horses head trying to run the place. Talk about out of her depth… dont even start me on Kelvin crim hugger Davis..what a fuckin joke he is!
      
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      November 13, 2017 11:15am
      - Morrissey
        
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        So she looks like a horse, does she?
        
        A word of advice, my friend: ridiculing anyone’s appearance makes you look foolish, and mean. People don’t take such personal denigration seriously, but they do look poorly on whoever dishes out such abuse. And when the personal insults are directed at someone who is obviously, by any reckoning, a beautiful young woman, it makes the hurler of the abuse look even more foolish and mean.
        
        As for your dismissive and ignorant remarks about Kelvin Davis, they’re as lame as your attack on Jacinda Ardern’s looks.
        
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        November 13, 2017 11:23am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        Don’t usually agree with Morrissey, and don’t like his style. But on this he is right on the money:
        
        ridiculing anyone’s appearance makes you look foolish, and mean. People don’t take such personal denigration seriously, but they do look poorly on whoever dishes out such abuse.
        
        Does anybody seriously disagree with that?
        
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        November 13, 2017 11:59am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Ooooohh………the precious Morrisdancer is all offended.
        Too bad, so sad, never mind.
        
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        November 13, 2017 12:05pm
      - treadingthemill
        
        Does anybody seriously disagree with that?
        
        Not at all. I think the “horses head” and “toothfairy” comments are infantile. And that goes equally for people on the left calling John Key “ponyboy” or making fun of the way he pronounced words.
        
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        November 13, 2017 12:08pm
    - treadingthemill
      
      So Jacinda’s a loser, is she?
      
      Well, she’s PM, so if that makes her a loser, I think she might be pretty happy about it.
      
      So that explains the unhinged comments and the bile on this site.
      
      Yes, there is a lot of that, but some of it comes from you as well. Rabid partisanship does not make for intelligent or civil commentary.
      
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      November 13, 2017 11:19am
      - Morrissey
        
        Fair comment, my friend.
        
        https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/54/03/77540399c7cbe389c35a6e89fe602af7.jpg
        
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        November 13, 2017 11:25am
      - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
        
        She is a PM because the drunken dwarf donated the seat to her. SHE DID NOT WIN THE ELECTION. So shut your traps.
        
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        November 13, 2017 11:37am
      - treadingthemill
        
        She is a PM because the drunken dwarf donated the seat to her
        
        And had he “donated” it to Bill English I have no doubt that you would proclaim him the legitimate winner of the election. Like I said, rabid partisanship does not make for intelligent,
        
        So shut your traps
        
        or civil commentary.
        
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        November 13, 2017 11:40am
      - realityczech
        
        More sanctimonious drivel from The-Trodden. Someone needs to kill it with fire before it lays eggs.
        
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        November 13, 2017 5:56pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Snigger?
    
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    November 13, 2017 9:36pm
GazzaW

Over the last couple of weeks we have had two separate incidences of lowlife scum stealing wallets from injured or dying car crash victims and utilising their bank cards.

These scum are beyond contempt but what are the chances of sentences that befit the crime?
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November 13, 2017 10:44am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The welfare state has conditioned them to expect to be given free stuff or that it’s okay to take anything if you can get your hands on it.
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:58am
Morrissey

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Is this bloke a suspect?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10673912
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November 13, 2017 10:47am
- Lance
  
  Hey Morrissey
  Why are Labour lying so much?
  why is Cindy lying when she said she doesn’t lie?
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:53am
- GazzaW
  
  No more a suspect to this particular crime than either Philip Field or Dazza Hughes.
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:57am
  - Morrissey
    
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    You’re highly partisan, granted, and your commitment to honesty is clearly low. But even you would not be so stupid as to suggest either Philip Field or “Dazza” Hughes was ever depraved enough to rob a dead child’s identity or to assault doctors and nurses in a hospital.
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:06am
    - GazzaW
      
      This is the last time I’ll acknowledge your presence here as an unwanted troll but I’ve seen your form over at the standard as have many others here. Has Cam Slater finally redcarded you and you need somewhere else to play?
      
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      November 13, 2017 11:26am
      - Morrissey
        
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        This is the last time I’ll acknowledge your presence here…
        
        TRANSLATION: “I got nuthin’.”
        
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        November 13, 2017 11:35am
- Ed Snack
  
  No, and somewhat unlikely as that offending took place, what, 40 odd years ago.
  
  No, 99% probable that the offender was young and a labour core voter. After, free money from someone else – that’s MINE ! is a core labour belief is it not ? And if the owners were dying, they didn’t need their wallets – you can’t take it with you you know ha ha ha ! Yep, labour or green voter for certain, fits with their world view and behaviour too well to be otherwise.
  
  Care to say were you were Morrisey when these thefts happen ….?
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:59am
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    No, 99% probable that the offender was young and a labour core voter.
    
    The depravity of the offences indicate he would support ACT, actually. Or National.
    
    Or, more likely, he’s an ACT candidate….
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11210373
    
    Care to say were you were Morrisey when these thefts happen ….?
    
    You should ask your wife.
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:17am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Nah, ACT and National tend to be law-abiding as you know well. Labour and Green are the ferals – after all if your political philosophy revolves around theft and appropriation for feelz, that has to be expected.
      
      And stupid little bit of innuendo, feeling sexually deprived, was your bitch away or your hand got tired and had a headache again ?
      
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      November 13, 2017 11:26am
      - Morrissey
        
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        Nah, ACT and National tend to be law-abiding as you know well.
        
        If by “law-abiding”, you mean incest, grave robbery, identity theft, beating up doctors and nurses in a hospital, and acting recklessly and loutishly*, then, yes, ACT and National are “law-abiding”.
        
        * Remember this?….
        http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2003/09/05/20030904181552.jpeg
        
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        November 13, 2017 11:31am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        It’s odd that you don’t get outraged about for Labouer MP and Minister Dover Samuels Morrisey, given he, in his youth, spent time in jail, and was accused of having a sexual relationship with a young woman in his care and protection:
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=147832
        
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        November 13, 2017 12:12pm
      - starboard
        
        …dont forget, pissing in hotel corridors. Low class mouldy.
        
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        November 13, 2017 12:16pm
    - Brito
      
      How’s about the very classy Shane Jones (NZ1).
      
      “It’s porn o’clock, I think I’ll turn in.”
      
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      November 13, 2017 2:36pm
      - Brito
        
        Did Shane down tick me. Is that you Morry?
        
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        November 13, 2017 4:49pm
Ross12

Apparently the US DOJ has forced the RT media group to register as a Foreign Agent –I thought it was a joke at first but then I saw the CEO of RT explaining the issue.
When will the require the UK BBC , the Australian ABC etc. to register as foreign agents ? There really is nothing much of a different between them all if they consider RT to be the propaganda machine for Russia, except in most other cases they are the leftwing propaganda machines.
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November 13, 2017 11:03am
- cha
  
  There really is nothing much of a different between
  
  Seventy plus years of alliances says there is, and if you can’t tell the difference between friends and a regime run by a Chekist thug, you have problem.
  
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  November 13, 2017 2:54pm
  - Brito
    
    Another drunk stumbles into KB. There’s the exit cha – cha cha.
    
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    November 13, 2017 4:51pm
flipper

Ardern and Peters continue to make themselves look stupid on so called refugees.

Ardern is the mouse that roared…. Until Butch awoke!
Well Toothfairy, screaming your over-sized teeth off may impress some panty waists in NZ, but it has certainly not impressed a senior newspaper editor who emailed me this morning on Ardern’s Manus stupidity:
“Someone should shut her up or tell her there are plenty more (millions) from where they came from.”
The fact is that neither Libs, National and Labor in Australia will respond to the silly bint’s protestations. They will all tell her and Peters, as they told Davis and Little on deportations, to ” fuck off and mind your own business.”
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November 13, 2017 11:09am
- chris
  
  These refugees really don’t look like nice men (they’re all men, as far as I can tell). It would be interesting if a poll was done here to see what the general public of NZ think about taking these refugees. I for one do not want us to take them; the 150 is only a start. Once they get here they’ll be demanding their wives and children should be allowed in too.
  
  And meanwhile, Ms Ardern is making us look like idiots, saying she’s going to talk to the Aussie PM again. He’ll tell her very politely to fuck off, and there’s a good chance he won’t take any more calls from her about anything else.
  
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  November 13, 2017 11:32am
  - starboard
    
    Jizzcinder is trying to follow in klarkulas footsteps..setting herself up for a cushy role at the UN once shes fuckd up NZ.
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:50am
  - Paulus
    
    Remember it is not disputed that Ahmed Zaoui brought in 18 relatives after conning his way into New Zealand.
    And that 18 would have multiplied by now to ??? many.
    
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    November 13, 2017 2:17pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    You would have to venture into deepest Mt Roskill to find anyone who thinks bringing in 150 “lone wolves” with “mental health issues” is a good idea. By their behaviour they already demonstrate a bad attitude. Imagine what they’ll do when the first object of their “affection” turns them down.
    
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    November 13, 2017 3:16pm
    - calendar girl
      
      Careful about Mt Roskill still being overwhelmingly leftie – it appears to be gentrifying rapidly. People seeking real estate love those old state homes (and private stock the ’60s / ’70s) with their big sections by today’s standards.
      
      Had a note recently from an old friend in the area saying that his neighbour’s modest 50-year-old family home had sold at auction for over $1m.
      
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      November 14, 2017 7:32pm
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Former Nat ministers in court today. They’d better get used to it because there’ll be more to come. Chickens are coming home to roost…

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/343678/peters-superannuation-leak-court-date-set
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November 13, 2017 11:15am
- Ross12
  
  If you knew anything about Court procedures you would know the former Ministers, journalists and public servants involved will be no where near the Court today.
  
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  November 13, 2017 11:29am
- stigie
  
  What a stupid fiasco this is Muttonhead, most National supporters are so pleased that Winston went with the COL !!
  
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  November 13, 2017 11:31am
  - Morrissey
    
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    If they’re “so pleased” as you claim, without any evidence, why is there so much unrestrained anger and bitterness on this blog and over on Fatoil’s Cesspit?
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:33am
    - starboard
      
      Pure angels over at the strandard eh morris. Ppffft.
      
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      November 13, 2017 11:52am
      - starboard
        
        EH MORRIS…?
        
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        November 13, 2017 12:14pm
    - Brito
      
      ‘BITTER! I’ll have arf barman.”
      
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      November 13, 2017 2:38pm
    - Gabby
      
      They’re always angry morrie. Such tender widdle snofwakes.
      
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      November 13, 2017 4:28pm
      - GazzaW
        
        How was school today Gobby?
        
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        November 13, 2017 4:46pm
      - Brito
        
        Gobster did Mr Filch do bad things to you again?
        
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        November 13, 2017 4:52pm
      - Gabby
        
        Bitcho did the dollar go up again?
        
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        November 13, 2017 5:34pm
      - Brito
        
        Dollar again drops against the US. So time to think of selling….again. Round and round we go Gobster. Ka ching!
        
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        November 14, 2017 6:41am
- Prince
  
  I see Red Radio are accepting the spin that the fraudulent application was a mistake.
  Will his original application, and declaration, be presented as evidence ?
  
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  November 13, 2017 11:34am
  - fernglas
    
    Yes, if the case goes anywhere. It is a defence if the disclosure was in the public interest, and I think that the circumstances of the overpayment would be highly relevant to that. And of course, with his strongly held belief in openness and transparency, it is difficult to conceive of Mr Peters refusing to allow the whole truth to be available.
    
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    November 13, 2017 11:47am
- flipper
  
  Guano bird…..
  In three years time, when this has been all the way to the Supreme Court, mostly at the expense of the taxpayer (Yes, the taxpayer via Crown Law. Ignore the Peters bullshit) the only bennies will have been the legal sharks and their income stream scam.
  
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  November 13, 2017 1:50pm
Fletch

Someone on Facebook posted some hard facts about these so-called “refugees” Jacinda wants to bring in.

MANUS ISLAND – WHAT ‘OUR’ MEDIA IS NOT REPORTING and Government is hiding from us

* All the men on Manus Island paid People Smugglers to bring them illegally from Java to Christmas Island by boat.

* All the men of Manus Island have already had their claims for refugee status completed by the Papua New Guinea government.

* With the completion of the processing of all claims, the PNG government has now decided closed the Manus Regional Processing Centre (RPC).

* There are clear pathways ahead of for all those currently in the now closed processing centre;

~ Failed asylum seekers are in PNG illegally and should return to their country of origin (as hundreds already have done) with the Governments of PNG and Australia facilitating voluntary returns.

~ Those found to be refugees can settle within PNG, as agreed under the arrangement struck between the Australian Government and the Government of Papua New Guinea in 2013.

~ Those found to be Refugees who do not wish to resettle in PNG can apply for resettlement in the United States or apply to move to Nauru.

* While they await these outcomes, ALL refugees and ALL failed asylum seekers have alternative accommodation options;

~ Those found to be refugees can move to the East Lorengau Refugee Transit Centre (ELRTC) or the West Lorengau Haus (WLH)

~ Failed asylum seekers can move to the Hillside Haus.

* All of the alternative accommodation centres – ELRTC, WLH and Hillside Haus – are operational and ready to receive residents – with; food, water, shelter, toilets, as well as medical, security and welfare services are available at the alternative accommodation sites.

* It should be noted that several refugees and failed asylum seekers have already moved and they are comfortably accessing services and support at these locations.

* Political activists are encouraging failed asylum seekers and PNG-determined refugees to illegally squat on a PNG Naval Base, hoping that Australia will eventually take them.

* If these political activists were really concerned about the welfare of these failed asylum seekers and refugees, they would instead be encouraging them to access the services and supports (including; food, water, accommodation, as well as medical, security and welfare services) that the PNG government has generously provided at alternative locations. Instead these political activists are using these men as pawns for their publicity.

It would be very easy to say, “just allow all the failed asylum seekers to resettle in Australia” – but this would only put the People Smugglers back in business, and the deaths at sea would start again – and that’s something we are determined never to see happen again.
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November 13, 2017 11:48am
- mandk
  
  The last point is the most important.
  
  It’s hard to believe that Ardern does not understand that taking the migrants (I don’t believe they are refugees) to NZ will simply encourage the people traffickers.
  
  The bodies in the Timor Sea that will inevitably result will be her responsibility.
  
  I hope the Aussies will tell her forcibly to stop meddling.
  
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  November 13, 2017 1:03pm
howitis

I watched a bit of TV3 this morning.
I know, I know…
Duncan Garner is as thick as thick could be.
What a class dummy.

I won’t say ‘how did he become a journalist?’ becuase being small-minded with blinkers on is a prerequisite.
First he did not know what an agnostic is.
Then he went on and on about the economic refugees, troublemakers, queue jumpers, illegals, people smuggler fodder, or whatever the vandalising scum on Manus Island are and just repeated,,,… repeated the NZ media line that ‘we should look after them’.
Complete absence of facts or analysis.
Coz Duncan Garner is dumber than my rusty old spade.

I was trying to describe to an English guy who has been in NZ a year or so what a ‘fizz boat’ is. He heard the term and could not connect. I looked up Mr Google with him. Near the top of the results was an article written by Garner about how he bought a ‘cheap’ fizz boat that ended up costing him a fortune. The story lays out in his own words how truly dumb Garner is. Mind numbingly thick ..and he told us so in great detail.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/10519730/That-sinking-feeling-I-spent-7000-to-catch-seven-fish
Extract
.. I’d bought myself a $980, 12-foot fizz boat – a boat built for a small person, powered by an over-sized 50 horsepower 1978 Mercury motor. The wife called me an idiot. ….

Garner is clearly an idiot with money so it is good he is well paid to be a repeater.
He was on about the quest to set up a chocolate factory in Dunners and clearly is clueless. Richardson had to school the fool on what an investment actually is.

It walks among us…well stumbles about with fat guts hanging out and knuckles dragging.
I suspect Joanna Forbes walked out with Garner’s nuts in her handbag and never gave them back.

Back to the blogs for information!!
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November 13, 2017 11:49am
- Harkman
  
  I really hate NZ news & current events shows. Back about 2 years I thought I would give Garner & HDPA a go, within a minute of flicking them on they started waxing lyrical about the “red peak flag.” I instantly turned it over and never watched that show again.
  
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  November 13, 2017 12:44pm
  - Piniwi
    
    You forgot Red Dann Harkman. His sound bite about a protest outside the ASEAN gathering had been sanitised for NZ consumption. To fit his narrative he had small numbers protesting at the US presence there.
    However local news featured a much bigger protest against their own President for wasting so much on the extravagance being spent on staging the event. The majority of the thousands protesting were real homeless souls who had been promised housing by him when running for office.
    The size of this protest was almost the size of those gathering during his election rallies where he dished out cash to gain their vote. Different crowds on different days but a good indication of why his popularity levels have plummeted along with the Peso.
    Two lessons there for the Commie Chick A) the initial price of buying leadership is only a deposit and B) broken promises can cost even more. There is news and then there is the Media party version for local consumption aka spin.
    
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    November 13, 2017 6:47pm
    - Harkman
      
      So correct Piniwi, Trump has his flaws (obviously) but the way that One News twists anything related to him is an utter fraud. I saw the Philippines “anti-Trump protests” it was a rag-tag mob of about 80 commie students out of a country of 105m people, what a laugh.
      
      Red Dann’s fawning over Cindy is a joke. She got nothing on this trip, Trump/Putin/Xi have yet to acknowledge her existence. I bet that Key or English would’ve gotten a 5 min photo op with Trump or Xi. Actually the only thing she got out of this trip was a disgruntled base. Notice Winston was babysitting her?
      
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      November 13, 2017 8:16pm
Digmen1

I’m sick of the world’s news media saying how the men on Manus Island are being mistreated.

In the videos they all look pretty healthy to me

Why don’t they tell the truth and say they are illegal boat people who paid people traffickers to get them into Australia by hook or by crook.
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November 13, 2017 1:08pm
- itstricky
  
  In the videos they all look pretty healthy to me
  
  Water tight evidence, indeed.
  
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  November 13, 2017 3:18pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Yet likely more reliable than they are genuine…refugees.
    
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    November 13, 2017 3:23pm
  - Brito
    
    Let them move into your neighbourhood sticky. If not fuck off.
    
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    November 13, 2017 5:25pm
    - itstricky
      
      More water tight evidence and reasonable debate. What a treat we have today. Thank goodness starboard and his profanities haven’t been seen.
      
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      November 13, 2017 6:45pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Australian government officials have been informed of 161 offences committed by Manus Island refugees, including alleged sexual assault
  Papua New Guinea officials claim refugees regularly travelled into town to have sex with underage girls and buy drugs over the last four years
  The alleged offences include assault, sexual assault, aggressive behaviour, unlawful entry, property damage and contraband
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5071435/Manus-Island-refugees-travel-town-buy-drugs.html
  
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  November 13, 2017 3:33pm
  - Kimbo
    
    So the chances of the first 150 to NZ being located in a refugee half-way house in Jacinda Ardern’s street in Mt Albert are…? 😉
    
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    November 13, 2017 3:35pm
    - Brito
      
      Zip!
      
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      November 13, 2017 5:26pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      Hey, they’d sort out “housing affordability” in no time with their machetes and penchant for infidel girls/goats/donkeys. Perhaps that’s Cindy’s plan for Auckland. Little Mogadishuland.
      
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      November 13, 2017 11:40pm
- howitis
  
  These critters who tried to invade Australia illegally have had more than a fair suck of the sav on the Australian taxpayer, mate.
  
  They have had free board and lodging for 3+ years in some cases. Free clothing and medication.
  They have had brand new apartments built and been granted citizenship.
  They are being aided by simple-minded commies (including Ardern) generally disguised as lying aid workers.
  
  The real reason they are in danger is that they are rapey little feckers around the local women, girls and boys so will get a clobbering if they try that.
  …and rightly so!
  At least PNG is still a country where the cops won’t prosecute the people defending themselves from rapey feckers unlike Germany, Sweden, UK, Canada etc etc
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5071435/Manus-Island-refugees-travel-town-buy-drugs.html
  … Refugees detained on Manus Island have regularly travelled into town to allegedly have sex with underage girls and buy drugs, Australian government officials were told last month….
  
  ….The alleged offences include ¬assault, sexual assault, aggressive behaviour, unlawful entry, property damage and contraband, The Australian reports.
  Several children have been born from the alleged sexual assaults, the paper claims…..
  
  ‘The Australian’ report is behind a paywall.
  
  From news.com.au
  ….The Australian reported that refugees used items such as cigarettes and chocolate to lure young girls into sexual acts. Several children were born from the alleged sexual interactions, the paper reported…..
  …On Friday, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton said about 190 men from the centre would travel to the nearby village of Lorengau by bus each day.
  He said many of the men were “involved” in drugs and some had threatened to rape local wives and children.
  “They’ll go down, purchase goods from the markets, they stay at the beach, go to the beach, they sell things down there,” Mr Dutton told Melbourne’s 3AW radio…..
  
  So in fact they have been able to travel into town over the years and a free bus has been supplied.
  
  They get free houses – brand new -better than the locals – but still cause trouble. They spent money on people smugglers so were engaged in illegal activity and trying to invade Australia illegally.
  
  I am heartily sick of the lying MSM and simple minded ‘aids workers’ supporting these criminal muzzie rapey feckers.
  They have had a fair suck of the sav, a fair suck of the sauce bottle. (Ruddism)
  Their intent now is to cause disruption aided by commies because that is commies’ M.O.
  If these commie agitators, including Jacinda Ardern, want to blame anyone you must put this back on the Australian Labor Governments of Rudd and Cindy’s fellow language-mauler Gillard !
  
  John Howard had solved this tricky problem- better than the Europeans.
  The ALP made this a problem again. You won’t hear that on TV1 or TV3 coz they are F.O.S.
  
  [NB. some overlap of DM source with Maggie W at 3.33]
  
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  November 13, 2017 4:34pm
  - Gabby
    
    They’ve been tried and convicted by the honestasthedayislong PNG justice system of course howshititis.
    
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    November 13, 2017 9:56pm
cha

He dared critisise Chinese influence in Australia. So the publisher ditched it.

Prominent Charles Sturt University academic Clive Hamilton said Allen & Unwin was ready to publish his manuscript Silent Invasion, but last week informed him it could no longer proceed because it was worried about defamation action.

“Allen & Unwin said that they were worried about retaliation from Beijing through a number of possible avenues including legal threats, orchestrated by Beijing, and they decided it was too big a risk and so therefore pulled the plug and returned the rights to me,” Professor Hamilton said

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-13/academic-claims-hes-been-silenced-by-chinese-government/9142694
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November 13, 2017 1:25pm
- Gabby
  
  Comrade Jian says it’s fine.
  
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  November 13, 2017 9:52pm
Manolo

It cannot be true. Crooks like her never die.
http://nypost.com/2017/11/11/how-the-ex-dnc-chair-ruined-clintons-chance-at-2020/

Democratic National Committee is rocking the political world with its tales of Hillary Clinton’s brazen corruption and tawdry deceits. To add extra punch to her insider’s account, Brazile is telling interviewers that Clinton’s 2016 campaign was “sterile” and a “cult,” and mocking it as sexless and joyless.

She even writes that she considered trying to replace Clinton as the nominee over health concerns after the candidate collapsed at the 9/11 anniversary ceremony, a fact that demolishes the myth that suspicions about Clinton’s condition were the sole province of conservative partisans.

To say the Clinton camp is furious at what they regard as betrayal doesn’t do justice to their outrage. They are attacking Brazile personally, accusing her of telling outright lies just to sell books.
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November 13, 2017 1:29pm
Fletch

Hilarious skit from Saturday Night Live about a dad hawking his famous basketball playing son Lavar Ball’s shoes.
Can’t be viewed from New Zealand, but if you can somehow use a VPN, it is worth looking at. I haven’t laughed this hard in AGES 😆

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTrJJG_3ow8

Had me crying….. I don’t know the guy, but apparently the dad is like this in real life.
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November 13, 2017 1:30pm
waikatogirl

Saw Cindy on the news in Manilla at the South East Asian Summit stating she will be talking to Malcolm Turnbull again about the Manus Island queue jumpers. The camera was facing Winnie who in response to his PM’s statement looked to be suppressing a bout of frustration and loathing at what she was saying.
Annoyed already…
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November 13, 2017 1:31pm
- GazzaW
  
  Cindy’s got more to worry about than refugees right now wg with the Greens pulling the plug on supporting the revised TPPA.
  
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  November 13, 2017 1:47pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Gazza, it hasn’t taken as long as predicted for Cindy’s COL training wheels to come adrift.
    
    Crash imminent
    ??? ???
    
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    November 13, 2017 3:04pm
    - GazzaW
      
      Dead right WG. The Nats have been OK with supporting this because of the greater national benefit but there will come a day in the not too distant future………..
      
      Labour has made its bed with some very strange bedfellows and now have to lie in it.
      
      We’ll have a new government by Christmas 2018.
      
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      November 13, 2017 4:43pm
  - Gabby
    
    I dunno, guzzla, they’ll be able to blame nastional for voting against the treaty they negotiated in the 1st place.
    
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    November 13, 2017 4:49pm
    - GazzaW
      
      Dont you read the news Gobby? The Nats are supporting Labour over TPPA for the national good. Makes sense doesnt it considering all Cindy has had to do is sign it.
      
      The Nats could have voted with the Greens and then where would you be? Out on your arse.
      
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      November 13, 2017 4:55pm
      - Gabby
        
        Then nastional would’ve made labour’s problem go away wouldn’t they guzzla.
        
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        November 13, 2017 5:32pm
  - treadingthemill
    
    Cindy’s got more to worry about than refugees right now wg with the Greens pulling the plug on supporting the revised TPPA.
    
    Sorry, but no, the Greens did not pull the plug, they never intended supporting it at all, and they told Labour this during the negotiations. So, it’s not a surprise, and it’s not something Jacinda will be worrying about.
    
    We’ll have a new government by Christmas 2018.
    
    Anything is possible. But if you guys keep pinning your hopes on that, you’re more than likely going to be disappointed.
    
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    November 13, 2017 4:54pm
    - GazzaW
      
      Not worrying about it because Bill English has given her his word. Not a great space for a PM to be reliant on the Opposition’s goodwill.
      
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      November 13, 2017 4:57pm
  - suzieq
    
    Nah. The Greens warned her before they did a deal with Labour that they’d not back the TTP. The Government will get over the line w/ the Nats and — TTP haters — Winston First.
    
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    November 13, 2017 8:20pm
minus

Central North Island iwi Tūwharetoa who owns Lake Taupō is taking court action to ensure it can charge all commercial operators that use the lake.

Since the water, which the iwi does not own, is controlled in its exit from Lake Taupo, can Tuwharetoa, however, as owner of the lake bed, the space occupied by the water and the airspace above the lake, (so in fact owner of the area that the water is held within) charge the Government a storage fee while the Government controls the level of the Lake for power generation (albeit further down-river), irrigation or flood control?
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November 13, 2017 1:42pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Ticket-clipping iwi.
  Why are we creating a new rentier class in this country? An aristocracy is not good for society.
  
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  November 13, 2017 1:57pm
  - Gabby
    
    That’s why we’re aiming for a rentier class outside thiss country o darker sin.
    
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    November 13, 2017 4:51pm
GazzaW

So the Greens won’t back the revised TPPA. What now Jacinda? Cap in hand to the Nats looks to be the only option.
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November 13, 2017 1:44pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Bill should have been prepared to walk away unless policy concessions could be agreed. He was too quick to offer unqualified support and Cindy will exploit his principled position, trumpeting her success as evidence of MMP delivering.
  
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  November 13, 2017 2:12pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    No. So long as the TPP is advantageous for NZ’s economy, National should support it. National’s job is to try and protect NZ from the govt. Anything positive that can be delivered during the COL’s term should be supported and serves to exemplify National’s maturity.
    
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    November 13, 2017 2:39pm
    - Happychappy
      
      Totally agree don’t lower your standards and do what Labour did for nine years in opposition, it is what is good for the NZ economy that you vote for.
      
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      November 13, 2017 2:58pm
- alwyn
  
  “Cap in hand”.
  What on earth do you mean? The cap wearing Labour Party in New Zealand vanished a generation ago. Its last leader was Mike Moore I would say. Since then it has been a small clique of University educated politicians who have never had a real job and wouldn’t recognise a working class person if they ran into one while riding in a Ministerial Beemer.
  There is no way at all that Jacinda would carry a “cap”.
  
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  November 13, 2017 2:15pm
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  National. Opposition party, yet still more effectively running the country than Labour!!!
  
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  November 13, 2017 3:05pm
softail 1450

Where’s realitychoke ?
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November 13, 2017 2:03pm
backster

No Griff today, nothing in the news either about record cold temperatures across the Northern USA States and Britain expected to be colder than Iceland. and their winter hasn’t even started.
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November 13, 2017 2:07pm
- wiseowl
  
  On the climate change scam.
  When there is no proof or real evidence of sea levels rising how can an insurance company deny insurance to someone in Eastbourne living by the sea.
  Dunedin is turning itself inside out over possible sea levels rising and again this paranoia driven by computer models is costing ratepayers thousands of dollars with no proof of anything happening at all.
  Someone somewhere has to call this out for what it is so that taxpayers and ratepayers are not hit in the pocket unnecessarily .
  Scam
  
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  November 13, 2017 3:13pm
  - GazzaW
    
    It sounds as though the insurance companies are going to use climate change as an excuse for a big collect on coastal and low-lying property premiums.
    
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    November 13, 2017 4:38pm
  - Harkman
    
    See Ivar Giaever, “Global warming revisited.” Or William Happer, “The real story on Climate change.”
    
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    November 13, 2017 6:35pm
- stigie
  
  And where’s Milky, is he sorting things out with Bob Jones to where they are going to put all these extra Public Servants that the COL’s have stacked upon the taxpayer..?
  
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  November 13, 2017 4:02pm
- realityczech
  
  There has been an increasing pattern of severe winters in the Northern Hemisphere for a number of years now.
  
  Thousands are freezing to death every winter due to the increased cost of heating as a result of subsidies for fake energy like windmills and solar panels.
  
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  November 13, 2017 5:31pm
Maggy Wassilieff

And we think we’ve got problems with Waka jumpers

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/one-nation-down-a-senator-after-fraser-anning-quits-an-hour-after-being-sworn-in-20171113-gzk1ck.html
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November 13, 2017 2:23pm
- Manolo
  
  Nothing compared to this, carissima Maggy:
  https://www.economist.com/news/europe/21731176-new-records-political-flexibility-italys-party-hopping-mps
  
  One Italian commentator compares them to so many Tarzans, gliding from tree to tree through the jungle of Italian politics.
  
  The latest was Giovanni Piccoli. On October 31st the 59-year-old senator swung back to Silvio Berlusconi’s Forza Italia party, a mere 21 days after deserting it. According to Openpolis, an NGO, Mr Piccoli’s rethink was the 533rd time an Italian parliamentarian had changed sides since the start of the current legislature in 2013.
  
  Of the 945 deputies and senators elected then, 342 have felt moved by conscience, or other considerations, to change parliamentary groups; in many cases, more than once.
  
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  November 13, 2017 2:42pm
Nostradamus

Iwi seeks to enforce Lake Taupō toll

The tribe that owns Lake Taupō is taking court action to ensure it can charge all commercial operators that use the lake.

Central North Island iwi Tūwharetoa was confirmed as owner of the lake bed, the space occupied by the water and the airspace above the lake by the Government in 1992 and in modifications to the deed in 2007.

It does not own the water, but Tūwharetoa Māori Trust Board chief executive Topia Rameka said the iwi does have the right to charge commercial operators for a licence to operate on the water.

The article notes that a number of people with commercial businesses operating “on or above the lake” don’t want to talk on the record publicly. It’s best not to upset the iwi when you’re negotiating a deal with them!
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November 13, 2017 2:56pm
- cmm
  
  So if they charge a toll and thus become effectively land lords, are they going to be means tested so that they no longer need the dole?
  
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  November 13, 2017 3:51pm
wiseowl

If they don’t own the water (and no-one should)how can they charge for anything that operates on the water.?
Try anything for dollars.
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November 13, 2017 3:31pm
Brito

The Green Party’s ‘expert’ and very experienced trade negotiator Gloria Gharahman, says they won’t support the deal.

Bit skinny but nice eyes. She can be spokescisgender and I’d be happy.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98830660/greens-wont-support-new-tpp-legislation-as-changes-dont-go-far-enough
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November 13, 2017 3:42pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Brito:
  
  Are you sure this modern cisgender look isn’t more to your liking?
  
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  November 13, 2017 3:58pm
  - stigie
    
    Crikey Nostra, now you’re getting down in the sewer ole chap..?
    
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    November 13, 2017 4:07pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stigie:
      
      There are fans on Kiwiblog. Nasska outed himself the other day!
      
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      November 13, 2017 4:09pm
      - stigie
        
        Bloody surprised with Nasska’s call on that one really Nostra, but some cockys have these what they call delicious thoughts at various stages of their lives !~
        
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        November 13, 2017 4:14pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        Nasska sold his Eketahuna farmstead and retired recently, as I recall, a few months ago. He may have a bit too much time on his hands and, you know, the mind strays into previously uncharted territories! Maybe Starboard could organise a harem of Thai princesses for Nasska?
        
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        November 13, 2017 4:21pm
      - stigie
        
        Might be a tough ask for starboard to organise these Thai princesses for Nasska now Nostra especially when he just made the call to bring back Catherine Delahunty..?
        
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        November 13, 2017 4:30pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        The benefit of a harem, Stigie, is that it opens up the possibility of enjoying “liquorice all sorts” under the sheets. I agree that Catherine Delahunty might look a bit out of place alongside Thai princesses, but Nasska’s assured us over the years that he’s a broadminded chap!
        
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        November 13, 2017 4:34pm
  - Brito
    
    Aaaaaaaaarrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!
    
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    November 13, 2017 4:38pm
VicParking

Sorry KB’ers I awoke this morning, turned on Red Radio and heard Kim Hill and John Campbell. I passed out and have just got of the ICU.
The Suzan and James Carson of Radio in NZ.
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November 13, 2017 4:25pm
- GazzaW
  
  More comparable to Bonnie and Clyde.
  
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  November 13, 2017 4:34pm
freemark

The Peace activists are in action, trying to import more grateful refugees.
From the peace action website, regarding the recent defence industry conference in Wellington:
“When it comes to police brutality, it seems that many of us are all too willing to accept that whatever the police are doing must be justified simply because of the authority that the police hold.

Peaceful protesters at the blockade were punched and kicked in the head, had their necks stood on, a wrist broken, fingers broken, and were picked up by the hair and thrown into oncoming traffic. Women were sexually assaulted. All of this was carried out by the police. People ended up in A&E and many were traumatised after being assaulted. Is this really the police just doing their job? And if this is the police’s job, is that something we should be comfortable with?”
Are these people for real??
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November 13, 2017 4:30pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Really, how can they say that.
  Everything the police did was filmed by idiots using smart phones. And i suspect, recall, the police were filming things as well.
  If there was anything such as was suggested then they would have been screaming to the heavens from the date of the incident, laying private prosecutions, complaining to the police complaints authorities and anything else similar that comes to mind.
  
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  November 13, 2017 4:42pm
- fernglas
  
  You must realise by now, freemark, that lying is utterly justified in order to achieve what the liar considers to be a noble objective. If I could find a politician or a cause that was prepared to tell the objective truth I would be behind them 100%. I have yet to do so.
  
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  November 13, 2017 5:00pm
- Gabby
  
  Fingers broken? rf rf on a busman’s holiday.
  
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  November 13, 2017 5:26pm
  - softail 1450
    
    grubby ,,,oh god!!!
    
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    November 13, 2017 6:35pm
- treadingthemill
  
  Peaceful protesters at the blockade were punched and kicked in the head, had their necks stood on, a wrist broken, fingers broken, and were picked up by the hair and thrown into oncoming traffic. Women were sexually assaulted.
  
  Are they talking about New Zealand? If any of that had happened it would be front page news.
  
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  November 13, 2017 5:30pm
- Inandout
  
  One or two tear canisters thrown at that rabble would have them find the padlock keys pronto.
  
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  November 13, 2017 6:34pm
Manolo

Comrade Ardern’s offer as seen by Australia:
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/arderns-offer-a-fatal-mistake-oz-senator/ar-BBET3BX?ocid=ientp2

Any acceptance of a New Zealand offer to resettle refugees from Manus Island would be a fatal mistake, an Australian senator warns.

“That’s a fatal mistake, literally a fatal mistake – people die when that happens,” Liberal Democrats senator David Leyonhjelm told reporters in Canberra on Monday.
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November 13, 2017 4:42pm
- fernglas
  
  As seen by some Australians. They have Labor (bastards still can’t spell) and Green politicians in favour of it.
  
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  November 13, 2017 4:56pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Labour/Labor these days are always in favour of violent criminals in your neighbourhood.
    
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    November 13, 2017 5:06pm
- Fletch
  
  Jacinda just won’t fkn let it go. She is trying to portray herself as socially just and noble and the perception of herself as a great leader means more to her than the safety of New Zealanders.
  
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  November 13, 2017 5:44pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Who is advising her?????
    
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    November 13, 2017 6:15pm
    - calendar girl
      
      H1
      
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      November 14, 2017 8:00pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Turnbull left the door open for consideration at a later stage? Why did he not just say “FUCK OFF”
  
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  November 13, 2017 6:06pm
SPLOOGE

*from sunny North Queensland*
It’s great to see that after nearly a month of Jacinda Ardern being the PRIME MINISTER of New Zealand and despite all predictions from the losing right the sky has not fallen in.
I on the other hand predict great things from the woman. A breath of fresh air after nine years of arrogance and entitlement from the right.
Ohh the ignominy of the opposition benches. Get used to it losers, you’ll be there for some time.
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November 13, 2017 5:29pm
- chris
  
  Of course the sky hasn’t fallen in. They haven’t actually done anything yet. We do already seem to be seeing arrogance and entitlement from Labour though.
  
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  November 13, 2017 5:33pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Apart from upsetting the Greens over TPPA, Kermadec Sanctuary and monitoring of commercial fishing. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the Greens to blow a gasket.
    
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    November 13, 2017 5:35pm
    - chris
      
      Yes true. They’ve done a bunch of fuck ups and pissing people off!
      
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      November 13, 2017 5:37pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Not true. Just more tripe from the bitter losers on the right.
        
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        November 13, 2017 6:56pm
      - GazzaW
        
        I note that Peters is refusing NZF support for Labour until he has seen what they have signed up for in Danang. This could get very embarassing for Labour if both of its coalition partners reneg.
        
        I see that Chippie is copping it now from the Secondary Principals Assn boss, Mike Williams. Hipkins has declined to progress two initiatives announced by Nikki Kaye to help alleviate the teacher shortage and the SPA is getting desperate. If nothing happens then our schools face some serious staffing issues next year. Another Hipkins fuckup for the sake of socialist dogma? He can’t afford many more.
        
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        November 13, 2017 7:26pm
      - chris
        
        @SPLOOGE I’m certainly not bitter about the election result; indeed, I’m more than happy that Winston chose to go with Labour, if only because it’s far better in the long term than going with National. I do also feel the Nats weren’t doing enough in certain areas; unfortunately Labour may well overcompensate… However, at this point in time, I’m willing to wait and see what they do, and maybe they’ll actually do some good things, along with all the stupid shit they’ll do.
        
        However, they most certainly have fucked up in the house, and have been pissing of their C&S partners the Greens with things like the Kermadec Sanctuary, and their supporters with the TPPA.
        
        Our PM has already been proven to be a liar, when she said she would never lie, and is being completely smug at the TPPA talks, saying that they got a better deal than before. Yet nothing is signed yet, and we don’t know what the better deal is. It’s politics as usual where the new government takes credit for anything good the previous government did, and slags them off for anything that’s bad, whether or not there was anything they could have done about it. No different whichever side is in power.
        
        The one upside is that Labour are very quickly learning that it’s all very well to have a strong voice about things when in opposition, but it’s quite different when you have to be pragmatic and in a position of actual responsibility. (Not unlike John Key claiming that Working For Families was “communism by stealth” when in opposition, and then doing nothing about it when in power lest he upset the people getting the handouts.)
        
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        November 13, 2017 7:40pm
    - slightlyrighty
      
      They do seem to be getting shafted, don’t they.
      
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      November 13, 2017 7:41pm
- Nostradamus
  
  A trip down memory lane (16 March 2015) with Splooge:
  
  One can only keep their head in the sand for so long DFP. Maybe you should just tell it like it is, this government that has lied and blustered through 2 and a bit terms is finally coming of the rails and people are finally waking up to the fact the the prime minister is a crook, a proven liar and most importantly, a treasonous arsehole traitor to his own country. The sooner he fucks of to obscurity in his adopted US homeland the better so the good people, the people that actually care about their country and not just about their own personal interests can rebuild from what will be left of a shattered and broken nation. Thanks for nothing Key, you have achieved zero for the people that need it most but has been a magnificent sell out. Fuck off.
  
  [DPF: That’s Strike One. Off topic and trolling]
  
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  November 13, 2017 5:43pm
  - SPLOOGE
    
    ” The sooner he fucks of to obscurity in his adopted US homeland the better so the good people, the people that actually care about their country and not just about their own personal interests can rebuild from what will be left of a shattered and broken nation”
    On the money wasn’t I.
    
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    November 13, 2017 5:46pm
    - stigie
      
      No you wasn’t ?
      
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      November 13, 2017 5:48pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Bahahaaaaa.
        Yes I was.
        
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        November 13, 2017 5:49pm
    - treadingthemill
      
      On the money wasn’t I.
      
      No. And that no is coming from someone who recently voted for Labour. National did some things very well, others not so well, but no government is ever perfect, and they, unlike you or I, had the responsibility of actually ruling and making hard choices. It’s easy to make blanket condemnations from the sidelines.
      
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      November 13, 2017 5:52pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Well that’s your opinion and like arseholes, everyone has one.
        
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        November 13, 2017 6:22pm
      - chris
        
        I’ve appreciated your comments since you started posting here, because you present well worded statements and arguments that make me think about what you are saying, rather than the crap most of the rest of the leftie posters like SPLOOGE make.
        
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        November 13, 2017 7:45pm
    - softail 1450
      
      splodge ,you twisted bastard ,fuck off ,and take realitychoke with you……
      
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      November 13, 2017 7:13pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        Bahahaaaaa.
        Talk about a triggered simpleton.
        May I suggest that it’s you that needs to fuck off son. It’s you after all that’s clearly upset here.
        I’m having fun (at your expense).
        
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        November 13, 2017 7:23pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Softail
        If you don’t stop rising to his bait, you will be the one who ends up with the Strikes.
        ‘ Telling someone to f**k off is never acceptable. I’m the only one who makes that call on this blog. ‘
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/comments_policy
        
        Splooge is a just a lying troll. If he’s offensive, just dob him in and DPF will sort him out.
        
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        November 13, 2017 7:25pm
    - Brito
      
      No you weren’t.
      
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      November 13, 2017 8:10pm
  - SPLOOGE
    
    Thanks for bringing that up.
    I don’t know why you did but it’s great.
    Cheers from sunny North Queensland.
    Bahahaaaaaa.
    *smiling like a Cheshire cat*
    
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    November 13, 2017 5:49pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Splooge:
      
      I don’t know why you did
      
      I thought there’s an interesting contrast between “the prime minister is a crook, a proven liar and most importantly, a treasonous arsehole traitor to his own country” and “Jacinda is a breath of fresh air and we needed that in NZ after 9 years of the same old lies, obfuscations and deceit“.
      
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      November 13, 2017 5:54pm
    - softail 1450
      
      splodge ,,,your little piece about arseholes,,my god that’s so new and original,I salute you for being so sharp and young.
      how’s the “black”thing going ?
      
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      November 13, 2017 6:28pm
    - softail 1450
      
      splodge , and smelling like a Cheshire cats arse.
      
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      November 13, 2017 6:30pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        and still the butthurt masses reply.
        I love you all.
        
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        November 13, 2017 6:38pm
    - Brito
      
      Somebody say pussy during this time of morning? Not very sensitive!
      
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      November 13, 2017 8:11pm
    - Brito
      
      Somebody say pussy during this time of mourning? Not very sensitive!
      
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      November 13, 2017 8:11pm
      - Brito
        
        Fuck it. I hate it when it does that.
        
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        November 13, 2017 8:12pm
realityczech

With property valuations coming out, I wonder if the valuations will take into account climate change ?

Waterfront properties in places like Oriental Parade and the Auckland waterfront should be essentially worthless.

If not we need to ask why ? It seems those with the money and power do not really believe in all this climate change bullshit at all.
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November 13, 2017 5:35pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  When I discovered there was a “gated community” on a windswept clifftop at Castlecliff… I began to smell a rat.
  
  Of course the “nice” people want to live by the sea….but horrors if the hoi-polloi got there first.
  
  Can’t see folks fleeing Pauanui, Ohope yet.
  
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  November 13, 2017 6:13pm
  - realityczech
    
    We are told waterfront properties will be underwater in a matter of years/months. They should be devalued by 97% and then bulldozed on public safety grounds. Insurance will pay out – the new market value.
    
    None of this will happen as virtue signalling is no fun when shit gets real 🙂
    
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    November 13, 2017 6:20pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Well, when enough coastal dwellers get hit with mega insurance bills, they might start demanding to see exactly how NIWA makes its forecasts.
      
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      November 13, 2017 6:23pm
      - realityczech
        
        The insurance companies are cashing in on the scam now.
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/98815753/insurance-likely-to-become-a-big-problem-for-eastourne-homeowners
        
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        November 13, 2017 6:31pm
- softail 1450
  
  splodge ,FO…
  
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  November 13, 2017 6:31pm
  - realityczech
    
    You seem tense Softy. Have another drink…. 🙂
    
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    November 13, 2017 6:33pm
    - softail 1450
      
      realitychoke ,naa ,id hate to end up like you chokee,so full of myself that I didn’t know that I wasn’t actually the life of the party,you cretin.
      your eloquent words and the b/s you spout might impress some but I see you for the “looking down your nose”at anybody that you see as inferior to your magnificence,,, FO,
      
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      November 13, 2017 6:50pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        You’re struggling now lad.
        
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        November 13, 2017 6:52pm
      - treadingthemill
        
        your eloquent words and the b/s you spout might impress some
        
        I doubt he is impressing anyone other than himself.
        
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        November 13, 2017 6:58pm
  - SPLOOGE
    
    The pain is real.
    Softarse, if you can’t handle it just scroll on. We don’t want you upsetting your sensitive feelings.
    
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    November 13, 2017 6:40pm
    - SPLOOGE
      
      And softarse it’s ‘SPLOOGE’. , write it down….Splooge.
      splooge
      splooge
      splooge
      splooge
      
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      November 13, 2017 6:43pm
      - softail 1450
        
        splodge ,you are so full of yourself you don’t even know when you are being insulted,fucking over educated imbecile,
        have you plugged your mobility scooter in you fool?
        
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        November 13, 2017 6:54pm
      - Brito
        
        Like that noise a turd makes resurfacing? Right?
        
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        November 13, 2017 8:13pm
Digmen1

I see on the Herald that they cant get any teachers to teach in Otara.

Funny that, who would want to teacher there and risk your life and try to teach people who don’t want to learn.
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November 13, 2017 6:04pm
- MCos
  
  I don’t know about your first statement, I haven’t seen that article.
  However I’m not aware of either teachers being put to death in Otara or people generally not wanting to learn. I know that teaching in Manurewa requires a certain degree of dedication because a lot of the kids live in unfortunate circumstances.
  
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  November 13, 2017 8:30pm
Manolo

The Stone Agers want more money:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/98773161/iwi-seeks-to-enforce-lake-taup-toll

The tribe that owns Lake Taupō is taking court action to ensure it can charge all commercial operators that use the lake.

Central North Island iwi Tūwharetoa was confirmed as owner of the lake bed, the space occupied by the water and the airspace above the lake by the Government in 1992 and in modifications to the deed in 2007.

It does not own the water, but Tūwharetoa Māori Trust Board chief executive Topia Rameka said the iwi does have the right to charge commercial operators for a licence to operate on the water.
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November 13, 2017 6:34pm
- Inandout
  
  Black tribes matter.
  
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  November 13, 2017 7:03pm
big bruv

It seems that Dane Coles will not be able to kick any opposition players in the head for a few months.

Good, the longer he is out of the game the better.
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November 13, 2017 6:45pm
- stigie
  
  Now that’s not very nice BB, might have to get one of Dad’s identities to sort you out ole chap..?
  
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  November 13, 2017 7:26pm
- realityczech
  
  Plenty of other closet gays in skimpy shorts to grope each other in a paddock BB. He won’t be missed at all.
  
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  November 13, 2017 7:30pm
  - Brito
    
    You been touching yourself inappropriately again? Remember what the nice Priest said last time you started doing that?
    
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    November 13, 2017 9:08pm
    - Gabby
      
      ‘No no you’re doing it all wrong, do it like Bitcho.’
      
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      November 13, 2017 9:37pm
      - Brito
        
        Fitch is waiting with the Golden Syrup Gobby.
        
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        November 14, 2017 6:45am
softail 1450

splodge and realitychoke should get together and produce a couple of offspring,apparently it’s possible now with the govt we have.
they are a couple of nasty pieces of shite that consider other folks opinions as not worth consideration .
I actually suspect they are both extremely good at googling and posting, and that’s it.
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November 13, 2017 7:04pm
- realityczech
  
  “they are both extremely good”
  
  Thanks 🙂
  
  glug glug glug…HIC !
  
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  November 13, 2017 7:06pm
  - softail 1450
    
    realitychoke ,jam your smiley face right up the only part of your pathetic life that still works..
    
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    November 13, 2017 7:20pm
    - realityczech
      
      Have another slug and chill Softy ❗ 🙂
      
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      November 13, 2017 7:22pm
      - SPLOOGE
        
        The man is getting himself all worked up over a debate on an open forum.
        He needs to get a life and lay off the booze.
        
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        November 13, 2017 7:28pm
      - realityczech
        
        Yes he is a bit of a nasty drunk. I am well known for my moderate and inoffensive views, but even I have been subject to his wrath 🙂
        
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        November 13, 2017 7:32pm
Piniwi

How sweat. Trudeau has consulted the Commie Chick about indigenous issues and it seems she told him we don’t have issues now. The original migrants were cannibals and ate the indigenous people right down to a very manageable number and only show up in a census as “other” Done and dusted
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November 13, 2017 7:06pm
- Nostradamus
  
  A link to go with Piniwi’s comment:
  
  Prime minister Jacinda Ardern has invited Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to visit New Zealand. She did so in the opening banter of her bilateral meeting with him in Manila. Trudeau did not accept on the spot but said they had a lot to talk about, including a feminist international agenda and indigenous policies.
  …
  Trudeau said they had a number of shared values “whether it is a progressive trade agenda, whether it is looking at climate change particularly focused on oceans, whether it talking about own international development policy and feminist foreign policy … we have an awful lot to talk about.”
  
  What’s “feminist foreign policy” and why would Trudeau want to discuss it?
  
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  November 13, 2017 7:12pm
  - softail 1450
    
    Nostradamus. FFS surely you jest ,what does that even mean?
    
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    November 13, 2017 7:18pm
  - nasska
    
    They probably get together & discus tariffs on women’s sanitary products.
    
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    November 13, 2017 7:24pm
    - SPLOOGE
      
      First thing that came to mind nasska.
      Used or new?
      
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      November 13, 2017 7:30pm
      - softail 1450
        
        splodge ,no I don’t drink ,never have but typical of a lowlife like you to accuse someone that doesn’t idolise you of being a drunk a druggie ,get a life and stop discarding folk who have different opinions to yours ,idiot.
        and get off the Google ,,,
        
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        November 13, 2017 7:40pm
      - realityczech
        
        “I don’t drink ”
        
        2 minutes sober and counting…
        
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        November 13, 2017 7:45pm
    - stigie
      
      Next thing we”ll hear is these women’s sanitary products are bad for the environment, back on the rags ladies !~
      
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      November 13, 2017 7:33pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Nah they are “luxury items”
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s26g_U4qGXo
        
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        November 13, 2017 8:58pm
Monique Watson

WTF is going on with you lot? Got scabies? This is one shite GD. The worst I can remember. All off topic, trolling and no political debate just immature sledging.

What happened to Nasska?
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November 13, 2017 7:30pm
- SPLOOGE
  
  People hate it when it’s not all mutual masturbation sessions.
  As soon as an opposing view is aired the moronic right loses their heads.
  I think it’s incredibly amusing.
  
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  November 13, 2017 7:33pm
  - Brito
    
    No you don’t.
    
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    November 13, 2017 8:15pm
- nasska
  
  I serve under a cruel mistress Monique. I thought retirement would be a breeze but SWMBO has demonstrated that I gave up work to carry bricks. 🙂
  
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  November 13, 2017 7:34pm
- realityczech
  
  Monique Watson, I agree and your whining comment should elevate things immensely.
  
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  November 13, 2017 7:35pm
- treadingthemill
  
  It was a slow news day. Plus, it’s a bit of a kindergarten here on the best of days.
  
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  November 13, 2017 7:40pm
  - realityczech
    
    The-Trodden will brighten things ups with more tepid sanctimonious brain farts.
    
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    November 13, 2017 7:43pm
    - softail 1450
      
      realitychoke, oh god more shite from from the shite King.
      
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      November 13, 2017 7:53pm
  - nasska
    
    It varies TM. Usually after 7pm we lighten up a bit & don’t take things too seriously.
    
    8AM to noon is reserved for the conservative know-alls & the Godaddled. 🙂
    
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    November 13, 2017 7:45pm
Digmen1

Yes, there is a lot of mindless drivel on here today.
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November 13, 2017 7:47pm
Monique Watson

What a pair of tits you are. And what kind of handle is Splooge? Sounds like the noise you make stepping in a cowpat in gumboots.

Sorry to hear Nasska 🙂 Hope you get a good spread of cakes and a hot cuppa at morning teatime.
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November 13, 2017 7:48pm
- sooty
  
  Splooge is just before your gumboot gets sucked off and your foot disapears into the shit!
  
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  November 13, 2017 9:31pm
softail 1450

realitychoke, “and he’s a bit of a nasty drunk”
who the frick said I was a male ,typical of you to completely discount 50% of the planets population.
but then again your history with females is not that good ,is it choke?
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November 13, 2017 7:48pm
- realityczech
  
  Softy I have nothing against you Transgender folk.
  
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  November 13, 2017 7:53pm
nasska

The Health Benefits of Cannabis:

1. It Can Help You Lose Weight

If you’re an avid Green Flower reader, then you’re already aware that cannabis users have been shown to be slimmer, on average, than non-users. That’s because cannabis helps the body regulate insulin production, and manage caloric intake more efficiently.
2. It Can Regulate and Prevent Diabetes

Because cannabis helps regulate body weight, it only makes sense that it would help prevent and regulate Diabetes. Again, you can thank the herb’s ability to regulate insulin production for this medical breakthrough.
3. It Fights Cancer

This is the big one that everybody’s been talking about. Both scientists and the federal government have released a good amount of evidence showing that cannabinoids fight certain types of cancer. It doesn’t get much more substantial than that.

https://www.learngreenflower.com/articles/66/50-life-enhancing-benefits-of-cannabis?gfm=true
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November 13, 2017 7:50pm
- fernglas
  
  The main health benefit of cannabis is that you can listen to Pink Floyd without wanting to rip your ears off.
  
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  November 13, 2017 8:07pm
  - nasska
    
    And Night Ranger. 🙂
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z92bmlcmyq0
    
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    November 13, 2017 8:08pm
    - Fletch
      
      The live version is pretty good. It is a song originally written by the drummer for his sister, Christy, and was called Sister Christy. He was worried about her growing up too fast etc. When he demoed it for the rest of the band, though, they all thought he was singing ‘sister Christian’ and it stuck.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eCvHrtE67A
      
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      November 13, 2017 8:25pm
      - nasska
        
        It’s one of the most “catchy” tracks I’ve ever heard Fletch & I couldn’t for the life of me explain why.
        
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        November 13, 2017 8:33pm
      - Fletch
        
        It’s one of the most “catchy” tracks I’ve ever heard
        
        Yah, some songs are like that- like the Jim Steinman version of Rock and Roll Dreams Come Through.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqhc9Id-Os
        
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        November 13, 2017 8:47pm
- treadingthemill
  
  Well that was the most sensible thing anyone has posted on GD today.
  
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  November 13, 2017 8:37pm
Tauhei Notts

I joined a long time friend for a couple of beers. He has been divorced for about 40 years and lived with his mother until eight years ago when she passed away. So now, at age 72 he lives alone and has done so for eight years.
What he is hot on is (his words) that lying cnut Winston Peters. “Every year I get a letter from Social Welfare asking if my living alone circumstances have changed. For about five long years lying Winston has ignored those computer generated letters. He must have replied because if you don’t reply they stop your superannuation. And his replies must have been fraudulent for him to keep getting the super on the single rate. My father told me many years ago to never ever trust a Maori in a suit”.
That bloke has never been a member of a political party. If that sort of mistrust becomes widespread NZ First has a severely limited life expectancy.
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- SPLOOGE
  
  I’d suggest most people that wear a suit are not to be trusted.
  
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  November 13, 2017 8:24pm
  - Brito
    
    Yes they are.
    
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    November 13, 2017 9:09pm
Monique Watson

It wasn’t whining, it was chastisement. If you like, I can always elevate to a higher level and bring out my extensive collection of whips.
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November 13, 2017 8:31pm
- nasska
  
  And leather jumpsuits with thigh length boots Monique?
  
  I’ve always had a thing for chicks in leather…..like Suzi Quatro who my better half bore an uncanny resemblance to. 🙂
  
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  November 13, 2017 8:36pm
- treadingthemill
  
  and bring out my extensive collection of whips.
  
  Ok, I’m intrigued.
  
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  November 13, 2017 8:38pm
Komata

I don’t know if anyone else has been watching the international coverage of the variouc high-level conferences occuring throughout Asia, but after doing so, I have to say that Ms Adern is an embarrassment!! I t She simply has no class or apparent awareness about how one acts in such situations. She almost ran up to the Vietnamese president and wife and only just missed ripping over in front of them, while her dress sense has to be seen to be believed!! Surely someone would have told her that a white blouse and and knee-length skirt simply didn’t cut it when she was hobnobbing with some of the world’s most powerful?? She stood out, but for all the wrong reasons. Others have commented that in such places she is acting like a Fifth-Form High School student. Sadly, after watching a very large number of ASEAN and APEC related searches videos over the last few days, I have to say that the hypothesis is correct: she is completely out of her depth and comes across as being gauche in the extreme. Being president of an international socialist organisation does not a Prime Minister make. I wonder how long she’ll last…
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- Nostradamus
  
  Komata:
  
  I wonder how long she’ll last…
  
  Hopefully Jacinda Adern won’t do this!
  
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  November 13, 2017 9:06pm
  - nasska
    
    Not a chance Nostra. Comrade Toothypegs will show solidarity with the sisterhood & the babies in poverdy!
    
    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/08/a8/82/08a8829fd7f462c212a06438ee506a16–doc-martens-leather-boots.jpg
    
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    November 13, 2017 9:15pm
  - Komata
    
    Nostradamus
    
    She came close!! She flew out of the limo (instead of exiting slowly and demurely in a manner which would be more fitting for a PM – as done by others), then walked ‘fast and furious’ (aka ‘purposefully’) up towards the Vietnamese PM and wife and when about two metres away, seemed to trip over the carpet. Granted, she corrected herself, but it was close, and all the while with that facile grin on her dial. I am aware that she has a major dental difficulty (although why she hasn’t got it fixed is anyone’s guess- she can certainly afford it) , but is it really necessary to be a little ‘glow germ’ at absolutely every event she attends – especially as everyone else in the photo ops etc is fully aware of the need for seriousness in such situations and to look ‘ministerial’ and full of gravitas?? This was very evident in Hamoi where she looked very amateur.
    
    We know what the Australian’s think of her, and I suspect that the other PM’s and their enterages attending these events hold similar views; they are just too polite to say. They will however be ‘thinking’ a lot and their opinions will quietly circulate… (It’s the way things are done).
    
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    November 13, 2017 9:51pm
- Digmen1
  
  Yes and I saw her at the APEC leaders into in Manilla sitting in a row with all the other leaders, and she looked totally bored.
  
  She is nearly as embarrassing as Helen trouser suit Clark was.
  
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  November 13, 2017 9:33pm
  - Komata
    
    Digmen1
    
    Re: ‘…she looked totally bored’. Not unexpected – there wasn’t anyone paying her any attention; very small fish, very big pond. It’s not too surprising though really; when the ‘homeland’ women’s magazines and media fawn all over you, it must be oh so difficult to discover that in fact you have absolutely NO real importance out in the big wide world, and that your hitherto ‘terribly important’ opinions (and total self-centred existence) mean sweet FA when it matters. A useful lesson to learn, but I doubt she has the ability, maturity or inclination to do so, since once she returns to NZ, the adulation will resume.
    
    It must be exciting being able to play ‘House’ with an entire country and (supposedly) unlimited funds…
    
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    November 13, 2017 10:00pm
EAD_TWO

World-leading Soy Boy is coming to NZ:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98845284/jacinda-ardern-invites-canadas-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-to-visit
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- krazykiwi
  
  Quick… better visit the pet shop for a Paddles II …. so Gaylord is not left without company when J Boy lands
  
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  November 13, 2017 10:08pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Next will be Elizabeth fucking Warren, or Walking Bird as the white ginger “Native American” likes to call herself. So full of shit, she couldnt fly if she tried.
  
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  November 13, 2017 11:52pm
- Harkman
  
  Just imagine the mediagasm our folks will have. Simon & Wendy will be so, so, so excited. Paddy will have his pants down, Danny-boy will be drooling and Sue Bradford Jnr will be hyperventilating. Red radio will blow all its circuits. Meanwhile our beloved Mr Ed will giggle and snort like she has some relevance in the real world.
  
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  November 14, 2017 12:05am
Komata

EAD

Where Canada leads, does New Zealand follow?

It seems to be distinctly possible.
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November 13, 2017 10:02pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  I hope not Komata as Canada is completely pozzed.
  
  Their men are very, very effeminate and have been for a very long time. Remember Ecole Polytech back in 1989?
  
  Unbelievable what has happened to their menfolk considering they were some of the finest soldiers of the Great War.
  
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