General Debate 8 October 2017

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softail 1450

labour ,the greens and Winnie ,aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh.
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October 8, 2017 8:03am
- softail 1450
  
  maybe I should have stated, labour ,the greens, and Winnie , fffffuuuuucccckkk.
  or has KB been infiltrated by the left ?
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:18am
oldpark

Just Checking results of the election.

Bill Englishs National Party Seats = 56

“Commie Chic” Comrade Arderns’ Labour Party Seats =46.

Mr Peters NZF Party Seats = 9

James Shaws Green party Seats=8
All parties other than the corrupt green party in the spirit of one of their corrupt benefit fraud leader. Have reneged on the spirit of MMP ,what NZs voted for.
Green party are in fact a First Past Post Party,yet hide behind the skirts of MMP,getting all the benefits of it. Yet refusing to enter into the spirit of MMP.
Their aim other than suck off NZs taxpayers is to turn NZ into an open door undocumented policy for refugees.
They have said 5000 refugees to start with .Not forgetting the dreaded CGT and Dead Granny inheritance tax Lie-bour/ Green mafias want introduced.
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October 8, 2017 8:17am
- Duxton
  
  Sorry oldpark. Accidentally downticked you. Bloody tablet.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:34am
- niggly
  
  Yeah but National gained 153,262 special votes and the Greens gained only 35,448 special votes …. but National lost two seats and the Greens gained one.
  
  How whack is that, thanks to the idiosyncrasies of the MMP voting system?
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:25am
- Liberty
  
  ” the corrupt green party”
  You are wrong there.
  One ex member being a very naughty girl years in the past.
  Does not make a party corrupt.
  Promoting Marxist and warmist dogma is misguided but not corrupt.
  
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  October 8, 2017 11:26am
  - alloytoo
    
    Not condemning her and rejecting the only two members who sought to raise moral issues does.
    
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    October 8, 2017 11:55am
    - Liberty
      
      That was only a clusterfuck. It is not the same as corruption.
      
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      October 8, 2017 12:57pm
  - Digmen1
    
    Have you seen the rest of them?
    
    All socialist white women singing waiatas. Probably none of them have ever had a productive job.
    
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    October 8, 2017 12:13pm
    - Liberty
      
      Singing waiatas does not make them corrupt.
      You can say they are a bit mad.
      And there polices are misguided.
      So far I see no evidence of corruption.
      Then there is talk about the Greens doing a deal
      with Labour and NZ first.
      Which will be like sleeping with an old dog with fleas.
      
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      October 8, 2017 1:29pm
  - MickMac
    
    Liberty you are talking rubbish.
    
    The leadership team knew what she was doing.
    They supported her.
    
    it was only as her story unravelled over a couple of weeks that the full extent of her perfidy became apparents.
    
    Electoral act fraud.
    Winz benefit fraud.
    using a document for pecuniary purposes.
    making a false document.
    lying under oath.
    
    The Greens co leader KNEW this.
    The leadership team knew this.
    The other Green MP’s knew this.
    
    and Taxinda supported her in it..
    
    get real mate, met2 is a thief and all the others supported her theft.
    Wake up.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:42pm
  - waikatosinger
    
    The Greens are the virtue signallers party. Virtue signalling is all they do. They’d fuck the country up in record time if they ever got a whiff of power.
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:43pm
Nukuleka

Anyone got any thoughts about why yesterday’s man Michael Cullen is part of Labour’s negotiations team with Winston Peters? Isn’t it a bit of a slap in the face for today’s Labour Party Finance ‘guru’ Grant Robertson that Cullen has been dragged in to give the negotiators some semblance of economic credibility? According to commentators at a well-known left-wing blog Robertson frequently gets Cullen to answer when he is asked a question that is specifically about finance. Isn’t Grant up to the task?
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October 8, 2017 8:20am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Cullen defended Peters when he was censured by Parliament in 2008 for knowingly filing an incorrect pecuniary interest return.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:25am
  - Duxton
    
    Which just proves that Cullen was/is a crook.
    
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    October 8, 2017 8:36am
    - Liberty
      
      A skilled and trained crook.
      
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      October 8, 2017 10:03am
      - Paulus
        
        Cullen skilled -was it not he who bought a Railway for 4 times its value so it could leave the incoming government in the poop.
        And was it not he who told Treasury to leave out the $2 Billion ACC deficit in the PREFU figures which took 6 years to correct.
        Blokes an embarrassment. Why does Cinderella have to have him to hold her hands with the Peters negotiations.
        She is not up to it – neither is the deadbeat Cullen.
        
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        October 8, 2017 11:15am
      - RF
        
        Way back when he was Minister of Socal Welfare he left a mess for the incoming National Govt by hiding some expenditure.
        
        Leopards do not change their spots.
        
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        October 8, 2017 1:41pm
  - Nostalgia-NZ
    
    Got to use every advantage Keeping.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:40am
- calendar girl
  
  Cullen will be there to do the bidding of the real puppet-mistress for the coalition of the left, Helen Clark.
  
  And to act as her personal line of communication to the Labour / Greens coalition negotiators.
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:39am
Happychappy

Every one is saying that MMP has got to change and the 5% of the vote has to be lowered so this is playing into one of NZ First and Winston’s legacies and he does not have to worry to much about it in coalition talks as he will have enough votes in Parliament to pass it. So really National can not win because if they give him what he will want the voter will say we bought him to be able to Govern and if we lose out to Labour and the Greens the voter will say Bill English didn’t do enough to make sure we got to govern. It is going to be a interesting few days reading and listening to the political elite telling us why and what happened for Winston’s choice of partners to lead us for the next three years.
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October 8, 2017 8:22am
- oldpark
  
  Blind Freddie could work out commie Green Party will never be or could be a coalition party. They confirmed that in the last two weeks.
  In fact until they learn and enter into the spirit of MMP they should sit in the naughty boys corner.
  After 18 years, no party wanted them,so even with the latest results.what will change.
  NZF with Mr Peters aboard is in the spirit of negotiations of MMP. Why would he even ask Green Party to take part. They are a claytons MMP party,the MMP party you get,when in fact they are a FPP party. Only supporting Labour Party.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:32am
- flipper
  
  Lower the bar? Rubbish. Raise it to at least 10% or scrub it. We are NOT Germany with teeming millions. MMP for a nation of 4.8 million is silly. Back to FPP.
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:39am
starboard

Nats will take it with Peters alongside. Liarbor and the stinky unkempt excrement composting green Luddites won’t get a look in…nor should they.
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October 8, 2017 8:24am
- Colville
  
  I fear that you are right.
  But.
  Three years on the opposition benches would do national the world of good.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:30am
  - Inandout
    
    It may do National ‘the world of good’, but the country will suffer.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:04am
    - Colville
      
      Sometimes the country needs a lesson.
      
      Better 3 years now than 9 years later.
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:08am
- Brito
  
  Hi Starboard, I decided to make a special guest appearance after promising not to come back until the next election.
  
  I fear that the Greens may sneak in. Winston likes to be serviced (under the desk) and his usual recipient, Gareth Hughes (love child of Frodo Baggins and Susan Boyle), now actually has to work. The ranks are now flooded with wee pretties and Gareth no longer cuts the mustard (or…haha…takes the custard).
  
  Anyway, I digress. The dollar is falling. Keep the faith and watch the wealthy make hay from this left wing government. Oh happy day.
  
  By the way Griff and Gobby…fuck you!!!
  
  Ciao.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:42am
  - Gabby
    
    Hey Bitcho, rich yet? Still a big wet pissflap ass fissure.
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:56pm
Longknives

One of the most bizarre things you will read all Day-

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/97507114/its-how-we-speak-but-shortening-place-names-can-be-disrespectful

“Dunedin Mayor Dave Cull accepts “Dunners” as the city’s nickname but thinks Māori names should be respected.”

Good Grief- So calling Dunedin ‘Dunners’ is fine but if you drive an hour up the road and call Oamaru ‘Oammas’ you are some kind of evil White Supremacist?
The Left have totally Jumped the Shark with this Maori Language bullshite…
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October 8, 2017 8:26am
- srylands
  
  Well the people who live in Paraparaumu let the side down. I recall waiting for a train next to a group of young Maori women who were loudly referring to “Pram”.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:32am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Maori give their sites of cultural significance hypocorisms.
    
    For example Maori refer to Paremoremo Prison as “Parry”.
    
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    October 8, 2017 8:48am
  - big bruv
    
    Anybody who hails from the bottom of the North Island knows it to be Paraparam, or Pram for short.
    
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    October 8, 2017 8:53am
    - Tarquin North
      
      We refer to Whangarei as Fang up this way and More is Motown. Don’t tell dame Susan.
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:23am
      - holysheet
        
        Dont forget Mooreewa or Kauwakauwa.
        
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        October 8, 2017 10:46am
      - Brigitte
        
        Oh come on, you’re all being rather CattyCatty. It really doesn’t MatterMatter.
        
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        October 8, 2017 12:22pm
      - Tarquin North
        
        I was trying to call Morewa Mowtown but this bloody tablet I’m on today turns me into a dyslexic typist! Might try drinking, it normally fixes everything.
        
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        October 8, 2017 12:24pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @ Brigitte
        
        tino pai
        
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        October 8, 2017 2:07pm
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      train guard called it ‘paraparadise’.
      
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      October 9, 2017 6:09am
- starboard
  
  Cull is the countries biggest guilt-ridden hand wringing sandal and sock wearing tofu munching bone carving adorned poi waving white man since…forever.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:36am
  - kowtow
    
    Yep , he’s a knob.
    
    “Hint of colonialism” , what a twat , why doesn’t he go home then. He likes his white colonial mayor’s chain . Twat , he should be running round naked and eating his slaves.
    
    So shortening Murri is disrespectful and loses the meaning ? So then does “Dunners” , Dun Edin . Edin’s fort .
    
    BTW , why is it ok for Murris to disrespect the English word “Brother” , eh ?
    
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    October 8, 2017 8:45am
  - marcw
    
    I think the guy who was Mayor of Palmy gave him a run for the ‘honour’ – resigned (or stood down) after the citizens rejected his call for unelected Maori positions for Local Council seats.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:56am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  I’m pretty sure our native Colourfuls also shorten Maori place names.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:40am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Only because they cannot pronounce them in the espinereske manner in which they are meant to be either.
    
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    October 8, 2017 8:47am
    - softail 1450
      
      careful what you say ,you might have the cops knocking your door down ,I’m serious.
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:24am
    - Swifty
      
      What a dickish thing to write.
      
      Credibility instantly lost.
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:43am
    - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
      
      “softail 1450
      
      careful what you say ,you might have the cops knocking your door down ,I’m serious.”
      
      Yes, true that. These mass killings/terrorist attacks are gift horses to our Globohomo elites and their determination to shut down any dissent/free speech that threatens their bureaucratic empire.
      
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      October 8, 2017 10:03am
    - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
      
      “Swifty
      
      What a dickish thing to write.
      
      Credibility instantly lost.”
      
      Swifty has a soft spot for the members of the degenerate Star Class.
      
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      October 8, 2017 10:06am
    - Swifty
      
      Reported.
      
      Your answer to those with different opinions is murder? What an embarrasment you are.
      
      A real tough-guy.
      
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      October 8, 2017 10:38am
    - GoVege
      
      Sounds like you’re having a bad weekend Jazz.
      Why don’t you try going to church?
      They’re full of nice friendly people who will bring you back to reality…more or less.. 🙂
      
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      October 8, 2017 12:43pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Interestingly the Maori wheeled out for this agitprop is the even handed one:
  
  “Māori language teacher Dennis Ngawhare said names hold meaning and all names in every language should be spoken correctly.”
  
  But that other virtue signalling pale academic has got a serious case of GayFace. Funny how the whiter they are the more desperate Progressives are to appear “Super Not Racist!”
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:54am
- VicParking
  
  RotoVegas out
  The Mount out
  Tāmaki Makaurau in
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:02am
- RF
  
  Do you mean Oh Oh Maruu.
  
  Thank god the white Maori Danny Watson is no longer on the radio. I hear he dislocated his tongue pronouncing Maori words.
  
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  October 8, 2017 1:48pm
  - BassilFawlty
    
    And don’t forget Too Poo
    
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    October 8, 2017 8:31pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      or Toe Paw
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnWZ7ZqHOTg
      
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      October 8, 2017 8:48pm
Chris2

The Iranian-born Green MP needs to stop spreading the lie that she is the first refugee to be an MP in the New Zealand Parliament. She was never a refugee.

It was her parents who applied for and were granted refugee status, she was simply their 9 year-old dependent child who was granted Residence status (not refugee status) when her parents were granted their refugee status after booking a holiday from Iran to muslim Malaysia, and then skipping through to New Zealand

She hasn’t been sworn in as an MP yet and already she is lying about her past history. She is not a refugee, her parents might have been (and then probably only her Father was the applicant) , but she is not, and never has been a refugee.
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October 8, 2017 8:27am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  If you work on the basis that every word spoken by a Green MP is a lie, then you’ll be pretty safe.
  
  She’s just observing the correct protocols. Wait till she start in on respecting sharia.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:30am
  - Happychappy
    
    Ha ha and we used to moan and complain about what the left said or called John Key, it seems and looks like we are no better.
    
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    October 8, 2017 8:40am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      The difference being the Left made viscous baseless attacks and I’m referring to the post-Me Tu world where the party got fully behind an unrepentant fraudster.
      
      One is Green hate speech, what I just said is evidence-based.
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:22am
  - Happychappy
    
    DP: I didn’t realise the fraudster and ex Leader was a refugee.
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:50am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Hmm never said she was. I was making a sweeping generalisation about Green members in general. Folks who line up behind a self-confessed fraudster and call her a hero – are lying to themselves from dawn to dusk. So lying to the electorate isn’t going to pose any kind of moral dilemma for them.
      
      As St Ronnie said “It ain’t that liberals are liars, it’s just that they know so much that ain’t so”.
      
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      October 8, 2017 1:59pm
- oldpark
  
  She is carrying on the same lies and corruption tactics as the once was a co leader of the commie greens . Materialistic Turei. From that day onwards they are referred to as the crooked benefit fraud green party. Just imagine that stigma and odour that goes hand in hand with such a pitiful bunch of green party,bludgers and no hopers.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:49am
- Duxton
  
  And even it it was true that she was a refugee, she is not the first to be an MP.
  
  I was interested to note that Kirsty Johnston didn’t repeat the spurious claim in her Horrid article this morning.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:53am
- Southern Raider
  
  If they were real refugees they should have stayed in Malaysia. Why did they need to come to NZ if they were already out of the country they were supposedly persecuted in?
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:28am
- marcw
  
  Presumably after leaving the shithole they created in Iran, now she is wanting to create a new shithole like the one they escaped from here? Bring in lots and lots more of the same to a Christian based culture. What could possibly go wrong?
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:00am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  She needs to be returned to her homeland.
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:08am
- Brito
  
  Many people left Iran in 79 because the People’s Revolutionary Army actively hunted for members of SAVAK. This group (SAVAK) was massive and was the secret police of the Shah. The entitled who lived off the blood of the Iranian people during the Shah’s time fled to many corners of the world. Be interesting to know the backstory of her Dad. If he wasn’t part of these people, no problem…if he was???
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:10am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Her family left Iran in 1990 – well after the fall of the Shah, and after the end of the Iran-Iraq conflict (1980-88).
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88498722/Green-lawyer-hopes-to-be-first-refugee-to-win-a-seat-in-Parliament
    
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    October 8, 2017 11:09am
    - Brito
      
      Ok then.
      
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      October 8, 2017 11:14am
  - GoVege
    
    So long as they’re not fundamental Islamists…we’re good.
    
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    October 8, 2017 2:37pm
  - Gabby
    
    He could swap war stories with Comrade Jian Bitcho.
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:51pm
- GoVege
  
  Don’t be pathetic Chris.
  A 9 year old child of refugees IS a refugee!
  
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  October 8, 2017 12:45pm
- Gabby
  
  You split that hair slightly to the right of centre cwiss.
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:53pm
David Garrett

Chris2: Well, she is only following in the footsteps of the fat fraudster….So she’ll probably do well!
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October 8, 2017 8:32am
- Chris2
  
  We could open a book on how many times she will refer to being a refugee in her maiden speech to Parliament.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:49am
  - RF
    
    Jesus more buzz words to remember… comrades and now refugee.
    
    Talking of greens….. Not sure how toothy is going to accomodate the criminal Greens as they wanted a shit load of changes to the welfare system. No accountability for criminal action was a bottom line.
    
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    October 8, 2017 2:29pm
Paulus

But the new Iranian Green MP is another gobby Green pretty things so she will be all right – but she says that she wants to be the advocate for Human Rights in Parliament.
Another smart dreamer – but already tipped as joint Leader over the other pretty one from the USA.
Understand well tipped for her work in Cambodia by the people in the party who make the decisions – not Shaw.
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October 8, 2017 8:33am
- David Garrett
  
  Paulus: do enlighten us…who are the decision makers among the Greens? Serious question…their inner workings are a complete mystery to me….
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:47am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    It’s easy DG.
    
    Step one: take one common rabbit
    
    Step two: read rabbits entrails
    
    Step three: announce policy.
    
    TOP is much the same but involves 100 garden moggies and Winston works on the settlings in the bottom of the Jack, Johnny or Jim container; Seymour comes up with his after keeping his head under the covers after a big night on the IPA followed by a decent vindaloo from Mr Paterson on the way home. Such is New Zealand politics.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:47am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Mr Paterson does not do curry’s but Mr Patel does, well his ever suffering wife and tribe of children do while he shouts a lot.
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:54am
  - Jack5
    
    A 20 minute video feminist interview with Gharaman. Diversity! Wimmun!
    
    http://www.superdiversewomen.com/news-media/interviews/interview-golriz-ghahraman-barrister-new-zealand-criminal-bar-association
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:28am
    - softail 1450
      
      jack5. have no fear we are all going to be saved by labours new mp angie Clarke ,he first words when being interviewed on commie tv1 were “I’m a social justice warrior and a strong feminist” just what is needed in labours ranks as we all know they have a lacking of that sort of person in the party.
      
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      October 8, 2017 10:33am
      - Jack5
        
        Gharaman pretty much encapsulates her philosophy about 15min into this dull, home-made-looking video, when she uses these words to the interviewer (aMaizing Chen??) about women’s status in the Middle East:- “organically grown feminism”.
        
        And Mai Chen: ” … it’s all about living in Auckland…” and “I’m so pleased Auckland’s resonance to super-diversity is important to you.”
        
        Gharaman: “We think Auckland is one of the most… diverse places in the world.”
        
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        October 8, 2017 10:53am
- Southern Raider
  
  So Genter being the only semi sane one in that whole party will get overlooked
  
  Maybe Genter should jump to National
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:30am
  - Viking2
    
    Kinda gorgeous so how long before seduction in Wellywood?
    
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    October 8, 2017 12:29pm
radvad

Well worth a read
https://www.wsj.com/article_email/the-culture-of-deathand-of-disdain-1507244198-lMyQjAxMTE3NTA2NjkwODYyWj/
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October 8, 2017 8:33am
big bruv

Finally the best sports writer in NZ wakes up. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/97625537/mark-reason-sorry-but-the-all-blacks-are-now-a-dirty-side

Of course the NZ rugby team have been thugs for years, not that it will matter to the majority of their brain dead fans. In their eyes the NZ team are saints and ‘world famous’ lol.
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October 8, 2017 8:35am
- mikenmild
  
  Ha. Was this the same Mark Reason who claimed that Beauden Barrett can’t run, pass, tackle or kick?
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:56am
  - Duxton
    
    LOP. Milk actually gets something right for once, and still gets downticked.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:09am
- Duxton
  
  Best sports writer? No, sorry. Just a bitter, whinging Pom, like his father.
  
  A sort of journalistic version of Michael Cullen. Whinging. Bitter. Sad.
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:06am
  - big bruv
    
    His father was also a great writer, probably even better than his son.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:17am
    - Duxton
      
      I recall John Reason wrote a very good opinion piece about the ’81 Tour. From memory he referred to the extremists in the protest movement as the ‘bacullis that will spawn NZ’s equivalent of the Red Brigades.’
      
      Pretty much everything else I can recall from him was anti-NZ bile. Like father, like son.
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:35am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Yep just click bait writing
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:36am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  “Of course the NZ rugby team have been thugs for years”
  
  Well with such an extremely high ratio of Maoris and Polynesians is any one really surprised?
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:13am
- Colville
  
  So a safer gets red carded and bruv whines that the ABs are the filth?
  LOL
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:34am
  - big bruv
    
    Ahh, so that’s the reason the NZ team won is it?
    The cheating ref’s have had to resort to sending off members of the opposition if it looks like the NZ team will not win.
    Face it guys, your game is corrupt at the international level.
    
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    October 8, 2017 11:51am
    - Colville
      
      bruv, you sang a very different tune when it was sonny who gave someone a forearm around the chops.
      But you are a hypocritical troll so no surprise there
      
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      October 8, 2017 12:42pm
- flipper
  
  Of course little bruvver..,.,.
  So when are you and the unreasonable dickhead going to publish the nasty dementia stats (Telegraph UK) ex kick it with your heads… that is from kicking a ball with your head???
  But that would be beyond your demented comprehension, would it not?
  Reason is NO better than his deceased relative, John. That Reason was rivalled for idiotic views only by the equally demented sometime Welshman, S Jones.
  
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  October 8, 2017 11:02am
  - big bruv
    
    Flipper
    Why is it that so many of you brain dead NZ national team supporters get so aggressive when it comes to football? It just shows how juvenile you really are.
    Mr Jones, the later Mr Reason (snr) and Mr Reason (jnr) are all sporting journalists of the finest caliber and far better than anything we produce in NZ.
    
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    October 8, 2017 11:55am
- Brito
  
  This guy has clearly been trapped on the bottom of a ruck and was possibly a back (all backs are fairies). I think ‘bruv’ (which maybe a truncation for bravado) is a fearful screen which allows this pitiful specimen to cast aspersions about NZers with anonymity.
  
  ‘Bruv’ you are a troll and possibly a self-lubing homo. I suggest you get up from Reasons floor, catch a plane back to Wales and crawl off down a coal mine.
  
  Leek eating wanker!!!
  
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  October 8, 2017 2:53pm
  - Gabby
    
    How’s the currency speculatin goin Bitcho.
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:47pm
big bruv

So we now have a bludging refugee in our parliament. Somebody who has lived her life off the sweat and hard work of tax paying Kiwis, somebody who has fled from a shit hole to a place that offered her and her equally parasitic family shelter.
Her way of repaying us for our stupidity in letting her and her family in is to tell us that she will do whatever she can (and against the wishes of the majority of Kiwis) to bring in more parasitic refugees. She will not be happy until she has turned NZ into the same type of place she and her family fled from.
Had she been a decent person she would have become a doctor and re-payed the people of NZ for our generosity. Sadly it seems she is to continue her life of bludging from the NZ tax payer.
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October 8, 2017 8:37am
- srylands
  
  Yeah I think I’ll judge her on her expressed views rather than on some uninformed judgement that her family are parasites.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:47am
- Disaster Area
  
  So she got a Law degree from Oxford and worked for the UN prosecuting war crimes before returning here as a Barrister.
  Her parents, formally an engineer and a psychologist, opened and ran a restaurant and shop until they retired.
  
  If you think that this family are parasitic, then god help the rest of us.
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:05am
  - Duxton
    
    I agree about the family being parasites, but don’t put much store on the Oxford univ/worked for the UN stuff on her CV. That marks her out as a troughing idealist, in my opinion.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:18am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Sort of like a ladder position as a senior advisor / policy analyst to Tony Blair then?
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:56am
      - calendar girl
        
        Very droll, PG. For those not aware of the background, here’s a comment from Ms Ardern’s online profile by Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacinda_Ardern
        
        After graduating from university, she spent time working in the offices of Phil Goff and of Helen Clark as a researcher. She later spent time in London, working as a senior policy advisor to Tony Blair,[7] a position she would later distance herself from.[8] She was also seconded to the Home Office to help with a review of policing in England and Wales.[5]”
        
        The ‘distancing’ of herself from that senior Blair advisor position seems to have occurred mid-August 2017, a couple of weeks after Ardern’s elevation to the NZ Labour Party leadership. (She is also on record somewhere as saying she had never met Tony Blair in person.) That particular career highlight as a senior advisor to Blair was never believable, no matter who penned it for Wikipedia. One has to wonder why it took so long for it to be lightly airbrushed, and only then after she had become Labour Leader.
        
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        October 8, 2017 11:25am
      - Disaster Area
        
        If I’d worked for Tony Blair, I’d want to distance myself from the deranged war criminal as well.
        
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        October 8, 2017 11:38am
  - timmydevo
    
    I agree DA. I think they’ve made a pretty meaning contribution to NZ.
    
    I think that this is a pretty disgusting statement against someone, based purely on your petty world-view, Big Bruv.
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:25am
srylands

It is strange how the prevailing Green strategy may keep them out of Government indefinitely. While an alternative strategy could make them the most powerful political party in New Zealand.

Why doesn’t someone rebel?
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October 8, 2017 8:39am
- Victor Omega
  
  We need a new party concerned primarily with the environment that could bring environmental integrity to any coalition agreement. That would be a return to the spirit of MMP.
  I care about the environment and I run my household and businesses with that ethos. Lots of people like me care about the environment, but would never vote for the current Green Party because they are all watermelons.
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:04am
- MrTips
  
  Um they tried over Meteria and got kicked out so Golriz could get in. That is why the Greens are so dangerous – they are a vicious brutal mentality that hides behind the environmental facade.
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:50am
- jims_whare
  
  Lookvwhat they did to the 2 guys who cried foul over Metu’s excesses and fraud.
  
  Got the sharp heave ho quick smart.
  
  No toeing anything but the green gospel leads to political death for any of principled Green members
  
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  October 8, 2017 4:48pm
Simon

“She hasn’t been sworn in as an MP yet and already she is lying about her past history”

Just paving the way comrade. MSM helping with the idea of tens of thousands ME Moslems to be imported to NZ
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October 8, 2017 8:39am
- VicParking
  
  The family came from Iran so they were economic refugees not escaping from a war torn environment.
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:52am
  - mikenmild
    
    You don’t think anyone leaving Iran could be a refugee?
    
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    October 8, 2017 8:59am
    - VicParking
      
      In your leftest crap mind anyone shifting to waiheke Island is a Refugee.
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:08am
      - flipper
        
        Just to piss off the moronic milky fool I will name-drop yet again.
        
        When Shah of Iran made a State visit to NZ (late 60s) the State Luncheon was held at the Hotel St George. I had a seat next to the Shah’s female, Savak bodyguard, a steely eyed, raven haired woman with a noticeable scar on her right cheek. Across the table was the NZ Police security chief at time, the indomitable Superintendent “Black Jack” Stevenson who introduced me to her. We had a pleasant three-way conversation, but I recall, clearly, that the Savak’s eyes never left the Shah and his wife.
        The Savak were, it seems, every bit as bad/good/ruthless as the Iraq and subsequent Iranian mobs.
        
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        October 8, 2017 3:32pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Left Iran for a holiday to Malaysia. Doesn’t sound like they were under too much economic strain.
      
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      October 8, 2017 10:33am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Nor fleeing war and tyranny. Malaysia was never that bad.
        
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        October 8, 2017 11:57am
  - srylands
    
    Many refugees in Iran are escaping death at the hands of the Government or its agents. Try being a Jew in Iran..
    
    All the Iranians I have met in New Zealand are educated, settled, have jobs and businesses or are studying.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:45am
    - mikenmild
      
      I think you might find that Iran is one of the better Islamic states for Jews to live in.
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:58am
      - srylands
        
        Ok I’ll tell her that.
        
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        October 8, 2017 10:01am
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        This is the same state that hangs your pet faggots.
        
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        October 8, 2017 10:31am
      - softail 1450
        
        are you serious ,the Iranian regime has vowed to wipe the Jew from the Middle East.
        
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        October 8, 2017 10:49am
      - Jack5
        
        Milky, if Iran is one of the better Islamic states for Jews to live in, the rest must be pretty bad. Here’s a description from a Jewish web site:
        
        Despite the official distinction between “Jews,” “Zionists,” and “Israel,” the most common accusation the Jews encounter is that of maintaining contacts with Zionists. The Jewish community does enjoy a measure of religious freedom but is faced with constant suspicion of cooperating with the Zionist state and with “imperialistic America” — both such activities are punishable by death. Jews who apply for a passport to travel abroad must do so in a special bureau and are immediately put under surveillance. The government does not generally allow all members of a family to travel abroad at the same time to prevent Jewish emigration. Again, the Jews live under the status of dhimmi, with the restrictions imposed on religious minorities. Jewish leaders fear government reprisals if they draw attention to official mistreatment of their community.
        
        And ….
        
        At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution, most of them for either religious reasons or their connection to Israel. For example, in May 1998, Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kakhodah-Zadeh was hanged in prison without a public charge or legal proceeding, apparently for assisting Jews to emigrate.
        
        http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-of-iran
        
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        October 8, 2017 1:09pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      And when the chips are down and the hoardes pour across the sea, they will be muslims
      
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      October 8, 2017 10:00am
VicParking

Heather du Plessis-Allan from the failing newspaper has been interviewing her keyboard again. “At Auckland airport this week, on my way down to Wellington, I bumped into a man from the capital.” In other words nobody will speak to me so I will interview my alter ego. What did this “man from the capital” have to say: “He told me the latest theory going around town, [is] that Winston Peters is going to surprise us all by not going into coalition. Instead, he may support either Labour or National from the cross benches.” How is this women be allowed to write for this paper. I know it has the lowest of the low standards but this is just utter tripe. While having a piss in the pub toilet yesterday a person in the next cubicle told me Winston MAY………
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October 8, 2017 8:49am
- Disaster Area
  
  Since the election the articles have been the political equivalent of the gossip magazines commenting on Jennifer Aniston’s latest pregnancy/marriage woes based on ‘well placed sources’. Which everyone knows, is shorthand for ‘my editor needs 800 words by the end of the day so I’m going to make something up which is half believable and yet non-libelous’
  
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  October 8, 2017 8:58am
  - VicParking
    
    Dont speak ill of by Jennifer. The love of my life. Her naked body sings me to sleep every night.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:05am
    - Disaster Area
      
      I’ll fight you for her….
      
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      October 8, 2017 9:12am
- Victor Omega
  
  She should be in jail for the “loophole” that amounted to simply breaking the law.
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:08am
- Inandout
  
  She merely listens to what her Daddy-Husband tells her on the pillow talk; or perhaps what her hubby spouts aloud when he is dreaming.
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:12am
- waikatogirl
  
  Perhaps while at the airport HdPA was perusing KB to find what this “man from the capital” had to say.
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  October 8, 2017 10:37am
Chris2

Usual biased line-up on TV One’s Q&A this morning: a former Labour MP, a former Green MP and a former Labour/Act MP.

Where does this tax-payer funded programme get off on not having a former National MP on the panel for balance?
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October 8, 2017 9:07am
big bruv

Chris
It’s Q&A dude, nobody, and I do mean nobody, cares.
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October 8, 2017 9:15am
- sooty
  
  Former ( love that word ) never was, wannabes. Yesterdays men, long may they stay that way. All drawn together by the media party trying to show that they are relevant. This is why journalist are lower than secondhand car dealers.
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:36am
  - softail 1450
    
    “former”. tv3 had one of the biggest bludgers ever to grace our parliament on this morning ,Laila harre, this woman who was thrown out by the green people of coromandel is now being used as a political commentator.
    she should stick to her fricking fish and chip shop.
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:57am
stigie

“Election day has proved anticlimactic.
Worse, our votes now don’t matter.
We voted in a Parliament, not a Government.” (Rodney Hide)

“With MMP the politicians decide the Government, not us.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11929786
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October 8, 2017 9:24am
softail 1450

I just saw the cuckhold goff on tv1, it’s amazing how this leftie pos can use the word billion ,it just slides off his tongue as smooth as oiled glass.
and million comes out of his pie hole with every 3rd word.
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October 8, 2017 9:29am
- Digmen1
  
  And he did not say how he is going to cut back their higher salaries. He’s had a talk to their CEO – great!
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:37am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Announce a 20% haircut on all council salaries and see how many leave to ‘explore other options’
    
    Can almost guarantee that there will be fingers left on one hand.
    
    Do the same year two and use fingers on both hands
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:04am
    - Viking2
      
      yep, so you would cancel their property rights by cancelling their contract.
      Great future for NZ with Nats like you.
      
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      October 8, 2017 12:50pm
  - Paulus
    
    He did not have talk with the CEO he had a conversation – he still has to learn from Cinderella how to do it – no wonder he was a failure
    
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    October 8, 2017 1:29pm
- Northland Wahine
  
  His “yes yes yes no ” had me thinking I was watching the vicar of dibley.
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:40am
  - MrTips
    
    More like Vicar of Dribbling
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:53am
Digmen1

I think they should rename Q&A to L&G

You’d think they’d be able to get 4 left wing commentators, instead of just 3.
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October 8, 2017 9:34am
Digmen1

Watching the two new MPs on Q&A makes me realise why I voted Two Ticks Blue.
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October 8, 2017 9:38am
Notsofast

Meanwhile the price of methamphetamine has halved.
The deliberate policy of cleaving New Zealand society by Bill English and John front runner Key is bearing poisonous fruit.
Police dancing around bonfires of safe organic outdoor grown marijuana, and creating an alliance between Maori gangs and corrupt Chinese to create child killing psychopaths is the legacy of 9 years of the most destructive government in the history of our country.

It is a disgrace.
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October 8, 2017 9:42am
- MrTips
  
  The street price of meth has halved everywhere. And you are Arthur Taylor and I claim my £5
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:56am
Odakyu-sen

Every decade seems to have some “dire disaster” that the media promote and people fixate over.

Let’s make a list of these (feel free to add to it)

1960s
– Communism
– Nuclear war
1970s
– Vietnam
– Communism
– Nuclear war
– Over-population
– Coming Ice Age
1980s
– Apartheid
– Nuclear war
– Pollution
1990s
– Collapse of Commuism
– AIDS
– Rise of Japan (they’re taking over) (I wish…)
2000s
– Rise of China
– Global warming
– Pollution (name your poison)
– Fall of Japan
2010s
– Climate change
– Islam
– Falling birthrates in OECD nations
– Uncontrolled migration (wanting free stuff)
– Suppression of free speech

What have I missed?

As for me personally, I think we are living in a Golden Age that offers so much potential for mankind to do well. So many millions have been lifted out of dire poverty.
What we do next is the big question.
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October 8, 2017 9:44am
- Dave Mann
  
  You missed Nuclear War in the 2010s.
  The fat little pig and the ugly big pig between them seem hellbent on having one…..
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:49am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Okay. Add that to the list.
    
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    October 8, 2017 9:50am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Sorry to appear negative (but the subject is ‘dire disasters’… lol). I think AI outranks pollution immigration and free speech on your list.
    
    For the record though, I do agree that we are living in a golden age, in other respects.
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:06am
- big bruv
  
  You missed one of the greatest cons of all time….Y2K
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:29am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Haven’t seen much acid rain lately.
    
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    October 8, 2017 2:29pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  What we do next is the big question
  
  And more so for the left, who can only survive if there is oppression and poverty. Their tactic so far has been to create the lie of oppression and poverty with:
  – faux racism
  – faux gender inequality
  – faux sexism by inventing LGBTqILMOPQRS sexualities (how long before they argue pedo is a valid sexual orientation)
  – faux housing crisis (translated = welfarism lifestylers)
  etc
  
  At some point, it will become clear that the ‘oppression and poverty’ tyrant is wearing no clothes – what will the left do? They will suffocate in the modern, fairer, more egalitarian society that surrounds us in modern NZ.
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:33am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    (how long before they argue pedo is a valid sexual orientation)
    
    Oh, they have already.
    
    Look at the back-pedalling top British Labour party members have had to do over their involvement with PIE in the 1970s.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10659100/Harriet-Harman-Jack-Dromey-Patricia-Hewitt-and-the-Paedophile-Information-Exchange.html
    
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    October 8, 2017 10:41am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  1960s – ban DDT
  1970s – cholesterol scare
  – ozone hole
  1980s – acid rain
  – nuclear winter
  1990s – terminator genes
  – killer bees
  2000s – boat people
  2010s – muslim hoardes
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:34am
- prosper
  
  Y2k.
  Ebola
  Sars
  Swine flu
  Mad cow disease
  Bird flu
  North Korea.
  H.I.V
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:42am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Of these, only North Korea appears to be in the news these days.
    What ever happened to:
    Y2k (a one-time event)
    Ebola
    Sars
    Swine flu
    Mad cow disease
    Bird flu
    H.I.V.
    
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    October 8, 2017 11:01am
    - Johnboy
      
      In respect to #5. Didn’t Penny fail to get elected so ceased to be news? 🙂
      
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      October 8, 2017 11:14am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Ebola – successful vaccine
      Mad cow disease – stop feeding cattle meat and bone meal
      HIV – condoms & PrEP
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0978t38
      
      SARS, Swine flu, Bird Flu- cold viruses; influenza viruses. …. bound to get us one day.
      
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      October 8, 2017 11:27am
- Viking2
  
  Well of course for a wee while in the 70’s we had Global Cooling.
  
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  October 8, 2017 12:54pm
- Jack5
  
  And for New Zealand, we now have megathrust earthquakes.
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11930695
  
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  October 8, 2017 1:13pm
  - big bruv
    
    And megathrust earthquakes can only be averted by raising taxes?
    
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    October 8, 2017 8:52pm
Nostalgia-NZ

So much for the moaning SA expats that said South African rugby was down the tubes. Apart from giving NZ ball to counter attack, and a slow passing 1st five they were very good.
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October 8, 2017 9:47am
- Gabby
  
  They were very offside a lot of the time.
  
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  October 8, 2017 9:49pm
Surely Knott

From ATEEDs Board report minutes , “Although ATEED had a firm wide choir made up of staff members, ATEED did not have a Kapa Haka group. The CEO agreed to consider beginning an ATEED Kapa Haka group.” …. Council – It’s like a different world.
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October 8, 2017 10:00am
Maggy Wassilieff

Good news Wellington…

Global Stilling is occurring.
Global wind speeds have decreased by 0.5km/hr each decade since the 1960s.
https://horizon-magazine.eu/article/what-happens-world-dying-winds_en.html
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October 8, 2017 10:03am
- marcw
  
  Obviously the group that has ~~well~~ spent taxpayer money for this failed to coordinate with the group that last month predicted that increased high level air turbulence will make jet travel unbearable by 2030.
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:17am
DifferentPerspective

Hear hear Muriel … well said
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October 8, 2017 10:28am
Liberty

The media keep ranting on Peters is some kind of King maker.
Which is crap. Because the Greens have just as many Ace cards.
Peter can’t help form a Labour Government without the Greens.
Nor can the Greens form a form a Labour government without Peters.
The fact the 3 despots couldn’t form a coalition before the Election.
This says they basically hate each other. So any coalition is doomed to fail.
Both Peters and the Greens individually could form a government with National.
Is there any reason why the Greens can’t form a Coalition with National
No. with some give and take on both sides a successful deal is possible.
Is there any reason why Peter can’t form a Coalition with National.
Yes and endless list. Peters epitomises the worst in New Zealand culture. He is intolerant’
xenophobic.
Peters would be at home with labour.
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October 8, 2017 10:59am
- Johnboy
  
  I think Winnies a good bloke. He’s going to sharpen up the gold card so all us old chaps can get cheaper prostate exams using it. 🙂
  
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  October 8, 2017 11:08am
  - Jack5
    
    A finger up the bum would be less painful that a plastic card up it, Johnboy.
    
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    October 8, 2017 1:32pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I think there is a limit as to how many times you get your prostate checked. Once a week is probably excessive.
    
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    October 8, 2017 1:42pm
- Digmen1
  
  He is also a Big Spender!
  When he was treasurer he spent up large with our money!
  Its easy to promise big things when other people have to pay for it.
  Eg Gold Cards, this only means that other people have to pay more!
  
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  October 8, 2017 12:09pm
  - KevOB
    
    The gold card cost would have been recouped on savings in public health.
    
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    October 8, 2017 12:49pm
    - Paulus
      
      Evidence of that please !
      
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      October 8, 2017 1:32pm
      - GoVege
        
        It’s true Paulus.
        People who have to walk to a bus stop or train station instead of hopping in their vehicle tend to be much fitter, skinnier and healthier.
        
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        October 8, 2017 2:42pm
      - realityczech
        
        They tend to be poorer, over weight and in poor health.
        
        Mostly because they can not afford meat and have to rely on a high carb plant based diet.
        
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        October 8, 2017 2:58pm
      - GoVege
        
        Apart from the humble spud, most plants are NOT high carb, Rally check. They also are extremely yummy, good for you, and no animal suffered to get them to your plate. 🙂
        
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        October 8, 2017 9:39pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @ Go Vege
        Do you understand anything about nutrition?
        High-carb foods are those in which most of the food consumed consists of carbohydrate….
        
        sugars, (100% carbohydrate)
        jams, lollies, syrups
        
        Wheat flour -85% carbohydrate (bread, cake, pasta)
        White rice -90% carbohydrate
        Corn meal – 88% carbohydrate
        
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        October 8, 2017 10:28pm
Inandout

The UK needs to toughen their gun laws.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/10/07/several-injured-car-rams-pedestrians-outside-natural-history-museum-london/
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October 8, 2017 11:28am
fylde

Just heard Brash on radio live – what a loser and he gives free market a bad name – he things Maori seats are one of NZ’s biggest issues. Rubbish – forget about productivity and infrastructure it is all the poor people to blame according to loser Brash
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October 8, 2017 11:33am
- Nukuleka
  
  Have you ever thought of writing in coherent, well-constructed sentences, with accurate spelling and grammar, fylde? It might give your rantings at least the veneer of intelligence and validity.
  
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  October 8, 2017 11:57am
- Jack5
  
  Fylde, are you a champion of separate, race-based Parliamentary electorates, as well as a defender of company-tax free status for big tribes (Ngai Tahu and Tainui)?
  
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  October 8, 2017 1:35pm
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
IMO – this ‘Tamaki SCAM’ is getting BIGGER by the day.

How was the establishment of Tamaki Regeneration Ltd (a Crown Entity Company with $1.6 BILLION former Tamaki Housing NZ properties) LAWFUL, if it managed to escape, IMO, proper, lawful auditing in its establishment by:

* the State Services Commission,
* the Office of the Auditor General,
* Treasury’s Crown Company
Monitoring Advisory Unit,
* the Local Government and
Environment Select Committee

Remembering that Tamaki Regeneration Ltd is 100% owned by the Crown.

The Crown Shareholding Ministers being, (formerly Minister of Finance Bill English), now Minister of Finance Steven Joyce, and Minister of Building and Construction Nick Smith.

Simply unbelievable.

Yet, NZ is ‘perceived’ to be ‘the least corrupt country in the world’ (according to the obviously meaningless 2016 Transparency International ‘Corruption Perception Index’.

BACKGROUND FACTS, EVIDENCE:

NZ WHISTLE-BLOWER ALERT!
5 October 2017

NATIONAL MUST GO!

IMO, this politically corrupt, cancerous growth needs to be electorally ‘surgically removed’.

National need to be cleaned out from holding power in the NZ Government.

How on earth can a 100% Crown-owned company, with $1.6 BILLION worth of former Housing NZ Tamaki properties, not have been listed
as a Sch 4A Company under the Public Finance Act?

I’m talking about Tamaki Regeneration Ltd.

The Crown Shareholding Ministers for Tamaki Regeneration Ltd are currently the Minister of Finance, Steven Joyce, (formerly Bill English), and Minister of Building and Construction Nick Smith.

IMO, the buck stops with Bill English, Steven Joyce and Nick Smith for this significant lack of lawful probity and accountability.

IMO, this politically corrupt, cancerous growth needs to be electorally ‘surgically removed’, and National need to be cleaned out from holding power in the NZ Government.

https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/5840214/shareholdings?backurl=%2Fcompanies%2Fapp%2Fui%2Fpages%2Fcompanies%2Fsearch%3Fmode%3Dstandard%26type%3Dentities%26q%3DTamaki%2520Regeneration%2520Ltd

This shows the Shareholding of Tamaki Regeneration Ltd (TRL) which is 100% owned by the Crown, has over 1.6 billion shares, of which just 100 shares are owned by Tamaki Redevelopment Company Ltd.
TRC (59% Crown – 41% Auckland Council).

Tamaki Redevelopment Company Ltd (TRC) and Tamaki Regeneration Ltd (TRL) are two separate companies, with different shareholders, Constitutions, ‘aims and objectives’.

Tamaki Redevelopment Company was supposedly focused on ‘regeneration’ of Glen Innes, Pt England and Panmure.

However, Tamaki Regeneration Ltd, IMO, is actually delivering gentrification, on behalf of private property developers and investors.

Why is TRL not equally listed as a Sch 4A Company under the Public Finance Act, as is TRC?

Public Finance Act 1989 No 44 (as at 04 September 2017), Public Act Schedule 4A Non-listed companies in which Crown is majority or sole shareholder – New Zealand Legislation

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1989/0044/latest/DLM5466801.html

Where is Tamaki Regeneration Ltd?
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TRL owns $1.6 billion worth of former Housing NZ properties- TRC owns nothing.

As I understand it – because TRL is NOT so listed – it does not come under the State Services Commission regarding ‘Code Of Conduct’ / ‘Integrity’?

http://www.ssc.govt.nz/code-organisations

Agencies covered by the State Services Commissioner’s Standards of Integrity and Conduct | State Services Commission

Tāmaki Redevelopment Company Limited (TRC)

But NOT Tamaki Regeneration Ltd (TRL) which actually OWNS $1.6 billion worth of former Tamaki State housing assets!

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Neither TRC nor TRL are listed as Sch 2 companies under the Crown Entities Act.

Crown Entities Act 2004 No 115 (as at 01 July 2017), Public Act Schedule 2 Crown entity companies – New Zealand Legislation

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2004/0115/latest/DLM331125.html
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TRL is not listed as a company that comes under Treasury’s Crown Monitoring Unit.

The Crown’s Commercial Portfolio: A to Z of Entities —

http://www.treasury.govt.nz/statesector/commercial/portfolio/atoz
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So – how is this 100% Crown-owned TRL, with $1.6 billion worth of former Tamaki Housing NZ properties, being audited and monitored in a proper, lawful and accountable way?

How on earth did this happen?

Who is responsible for ensuring 100% Crown-owned companies, ARE properly listed under the Public Finance Act?

And the Crown Entities Act?

What is the role of the Office of the Auditor-General (OAG) in ensuring that 100% Crown-owned companies, are correctly listed as such, in under-pinning legislation?

How about Treasury’s Crown Monitoring Unit?

How about the Crown Shareholding Ministers of Tamaki Regeneration Ltd?

Formerly Bill English – now Steven Joyce and Nick Smith?

How about the Board of Directors of Tamaki Regeneration Ltd?

WHO IS RESPONSIBLE?

WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY?

How truly ‘mickey mouse’ is this?

All happening in New Zealand, ‘perceived’ to be the ‘least corrupt country in the world’ (according to, IMO, the obviously completely meaningless 2016 Transparency International ‘Corruption Perception Index’.

Penny Bright

‘Anti-privatisation / anti-corruption whistle-blower’.
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October 8, 2017 12:11pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Jeezuz Penny,
  You have just commandeered 1035 sq cm of my screen with your screed.
  
  Why don’t you post a guest opinion here on KB?
  
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  October 8, 2017 3:00pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
    You’re getting facts & evidence on this, IMO, massive rort and fraud from me that you’re not getting anywhere else Maggie 🙂
    
    At some stage MSM will pick this up – pity it wasn’t before the 2017 election so the public could ‘cast an informed vote’?
    
    Cheers!
    
    Penny 🙂
    
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    October 8, 2017 3:54pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s hidden away at the end of a Sunday General Debate.
      
      The MSM journos aren’t working today. They are not reading your stuff.
      
      If you want something read here on KB by people with influence, you have to either post it by 8:05am or run it as a guest post.
      
      (I really shouldn’t have to explain this basic stuff to someone who has made 5891 comments )
      
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      October 8, 2017 4:39pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See?
  I Spray And Walk Away
  Rubbish Stays
  I walk away
  
  Steve NS
  Attendee Glenfield Trolley Derby 1986
  Fuck I got trolleyed
  
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  October 8, 2017 3:22pm
- srylands
  
  I have read this twice. Fuck knows why. It is incomprehensible. Can you please just tell us the actual – you know – problem, in one concise paragraph? Are you seriously suggesting that the Crown has established a company that it has a major shareholding in, and it is somehow corrupt or unlawful, and you are the only one that thinks that?
  
  Bullshit.
  
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  October 8, 2017 4:49pm
Johnboy

So mad cow disease wasn’t so fatal after all eh? 🙂
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October 8, 2017 12:14pm
- publicwatchdog
  
  I prefer ‘consistent’ and ‘persistent’ Johnboy.
  
  Her Warship 😉
  
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  October 8, 2017 12:31pm
  - Jack5
    
    Deep inside you, Penny, there’s a rational conservative wanting to get out.
    
    The one that says: “Hell Penny, please , please just pay the rates, sell the house before the bubble bursts, and move to some village near a beach in Northland.”
    
    There, start a craft-placard factory, and a museum of NZ protests.
    
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    October 8, 2017 1:30pm
    - Tarquin North
      
      After Winston and Hone haven’t we suffered enough?
      
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      October 8, 2017 2:34pm
    - RF
      
      We should cut Penny some slack as when Dalahunty left politics she stopped buying gallons of cats piss she washed her hair with.
      
      It was a good earner for Penny and I hear she even topped it up when Catherine wanted more.
      
      We should show more compassion for those less fortunate.
      
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      October 8, 2017 2:55pm
      - flipper
        
        When will you apologise to Banksie woman?
        It takes a real idiot to spend money on an air fare to Wellington to attend a Court of Appeal hearing which was of no concern to you (but one that Banksie won hands down) and not pay your rates.
        Please resume hibernation, fool.
        
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        October 8, 2017 4:49pm
- holysheet
  
  I think when Gareth Morgan formed the TOP party he was thinking of Penny when he made his pronouncements about cats.
  Anything would have been possible if he had actually said he was going to rid Auckland of this dead old puss. Half of Auckland would have given him their vote I am sure. Nobody likes a rates bludger.
  
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  October 8, 2017 1:51pm
Fletch

Russel Norman says it’s National that needs to “look at itself” and change….

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/blue-green-deal-would-very-difficult-says-russel-norman
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October 8, 2017 12:18pm
- Johnboy
  
  He’s never really been the same since the Chinese stole his flag. 🙂
  
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  October 8, 2017 12:34pm
  - Fletch
    
    And if you think about it, Russell is saying that National (who won the most votes of any party) should be more like the Greens (who barely won enough to get any seats again in Parliament). Why should National be more like a loser party?
    
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    October 8, 2017 12:47pm
    - Viking2
      
      Yep, not a lot of brain time in his thinking.
      
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      October 8, 2017 1:01pm
      - holysheet
        
        He’s an Aussie, what more did you expect?
        
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        October 8, 2017 1:52pm
- Digmen1
  
  Its the Greens that need to change.
  Split into two parties
  A true environmental party
  And an extreme left wing socialist pardy.
  
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  October 8, 2017 1:49pm
  - calendar girl
    
    …….. the latter to be called “The Reds”.
    
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    October 8, 2017 2:21pm
Jack5

The the immigration and protection tribunal strikes again – time for a change of membership (and here are the members):

Chairman: Judge Peter Spiller. Members: Martin Treadwell (deputy chairman), S Aitchison, M Avia, B Burson, A Clayton, A Davidson, B Dingle, J Donald, P Fuiava, M Martin, A Molloy, L Moor, S Pearson, Z Pearson, M Roche, V Shaw, D Smallholme, V Vervoort, L Wakim.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/340257/immigration-unfair-to-use-wikipedia-in-decision
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October 8, 2017 1:26pm
- Jack5
  
  That’s not the only pro-immigration plug of Radio NZ – the Voice of the Left.
  
  It’s highlighting the need for taxpayer money to be spent on refugees after they arrive in NZ:
  
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/339858/asylum-seekers-left-couch-surfing
  
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  October 8, 2017 1:44pm
RF

If National do not get the nod from Peters I am picking that the majority on the right will suck it up and do better next time.

If Labour miss out there will be crowds rioting in the streets and contracts taken out on NZ First.
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October 8, 2017 5:43pm
MrTips

BREAKING NEWS: secret recording of today’s Labour Greens NZF meeting.

Ardern: well, here we are. Sooooo exciting and positive. Let’s do this!
Davis: that English guy’s a sandwich short of a hangi eh?
Shaw: Kia ora. We are pleased to be part of the new age of dicta…er, government. May Gaia guide us wisely.
Mark: I knew a guyer in the SAS who ate bolts for breakfast.
Golriz: Really? You Crusader pig.
Ardern: OK Comrades let’s keep this transparent and really really doable.
Cullen: did I tell you I know an awwwful lot about trains?
Mark: that ex leader of yours had a pretty big caboose eh Shawy?
Shaw: what?
Peters: there’s no media here eh?
Golriz: I am the only scribe you need.
Davis: Scribes awesome eh bro? Saw him live and wet myself…..
Shaw: wetness is the essence of moisture. Gaia is wet.
Peters: (whispers to himself)….bloody hell……
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October 8, 2017 5:48pm
cha

Russia is our friend?” I guess the Gipper will be rolling.

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Virginia—White supremacist Richard Spencer suddenly reappeared on Saturday night with approximately torchbearing 50 supporters, two months after he organized an infamous hate march here.

Spencer and his followers gathered around a statue of Robert E. Lee in Emancipation Park chanting “you will not replace us,” singing “Dixie,” and alternating between “Russia is our friend” and “the South will rise again.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/richard-spencer-and-white-supremacists-return-to-charlottesville-chanting-you-will-not-replace-us
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October 8, 2017 5:54pm
- realityczech
  
  Meanwhile blacks are carrying out mass killings and race riots. Dirty filthy murderous apes.
  
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  October 8, 2017 6:31pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    They “dindu nuffin”
    
    Imagine if the races were reversed in this weeks horror story – believe me, there would be riots & we would never hear the end of it:
    
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4941100/Oklahoma-teenager-arrested-fatal-shooting-sexual-assault.html
    
    Teenager robs a couple in their home then forces them to drive him to an ATM before raping the woman and shooting dead a father in front of his children
    
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    October 8, 2017 7:22pm
    - realityczech
      
      Sickening to think virtue signalling scum turn a blind eye to this sort of barbaric behaviour from those filthy animals.
      
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      October 8, 2017 7:25pm
  - Jack5
    
    Kia2 (“realityczech”) throws out bait for his blogging targets.
    
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    October 8, 2017 8:14pm
nasska

Black people who were never slaves are fighting white people who were never Nazis over a Confederate statue erected by Democrats because even Democrats can’t stand their own history any more.

And somehow it’s all Trump’s fault!
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October 8, 2017 6:55pm
- realityczech
  
  It was white people who came up with the idea slavery was wrong. The dirty beasts had been selling their own in Africa for centuries and still do today.
  
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  October 8, 2017 7:27pm
Rodney Randall

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-yemen-security-saudi-un/draft-u-n-blacklist-names-saudi-coalition-for-killing-children-in-yemen-idUKKCN1C82PA?rpc=401&

“The Saudi U.N. ambassador, Abdallah Al-Mouallimi, declined to comment until the report is officially issued. In August, the Saudi U.N. mission said there was “no justification whatsoever” for including the coalition on the blacklist.

U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric said the United Nations does not comment on leaked documents.

The coalition was briefly added to the blacklist last year and then removed by then-U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon pending review. At the time, Ban accused Saudi Arabia of exerting “unacceptable” undue pressure after sources told Reuters that Riyadh threatened to cut its U.N. funding. Saudi Arabia denied threatening Ban.”
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October 8, 2017 7:43pm
Nookin

As I recall, factions to the left of centre were demanding the right to know all about the negotiations for the TPP -what subjects were were discussed and who was saying what about whom.
There seems to be a complete lack of enthusiasm for divulging what is going on in the negotiations to form a government for NZ. I mean, isn’t that quite important? We are talking about OUR government being determined behind closed doors.

Where is Jane Kelsey at this critical moment?

Why are Shaw et al not demanding that the negotiations be televised?

Not even Penny gives a toss. She sure doesn’t appear to give a toss about the AC wages bill.
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October 8, 2017 9:16pm
Piniwi

Have to laugh at the Media party now touting the Mud mob as “Centre left”.
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October 8, 2017 10:15pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Slightly better than being left right out!
  
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  October 8, 2017 10:45pm
Left Right and Centre

I loved hearing Phil Goff talk about Auckland’s ceaseless expansion . . . 800 more cars per week on the roads, housing shortage, 50K more people each year and on and on.

Turn off the taps. Problem solved.
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October 9, 2017 6:53am
- Digmen1
  
  Did you notice that when he was asked twice if that would solve the problem, he sort of glossed over it.
  He kept saying Auckland is a great place to live and people love coming here.
  
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