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Notsofast

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Bill English is too white too male and too catholic to have the remotest interest in repairing miscarriages of justice. Jacinda Ardern is none of above, but gutless, silent, on Peter Ellis, Mark Lundy and David Bain, but a supporter of miscreant Teina Pora.

She is a friend of Steve Braunias, and Steve knows Mark Lundy is innocent. He has stated this in public, and is a serious researcher.

This hoax is a disgrace and New Zealand is regarded with contempt by international scientists. The ignorant attitude of thugs on this message board will bite in the backside shortly. Serial prosecutor of innocent men, Ben Van derkolk should be called to account.

(Mark Lundy several times, Ewan MacDonald once).
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October 5, 2017 8:01am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  So Steve Braunias is also a member of the Mark Lundy fan club is he?
  As if his opinion counts for anything.
  Oh, and Jacindazilla is his friend. Wow!
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:07am
  - Notsofast
    
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    Read his excellent book, Scene of the Crime, and comment with knowledge. It is available for a very reasonable price on Kindle.
    Jacinda Ardern has for a long time been labour spokesperson for justice. She is pathetic.
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:14am
    - Happychappy
      
      That is the pot calling the kettle black, you should have a good look in the mirror.
      
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      October 5, 2017 8:22am
      - Notsofast
        
        Very brave. What issue are you campaigning for Chappy?
        It is important before you do so to know your facts backwards, as Braunias and a few others do on Lundy. They should be finally revealed in the appeal court on October 17, but will they be reported?
        
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        October 5, 2017 8:28am
      - Gabby
        
        Crap or get off the pot chappy.
        
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        October 5, 2017 8:44am
    - Nookin
      
      I start reading it but, in the early stages, I read a proposition that was so seriously flawed as to undermine his credibility and I went on to other things. I may return to it but doubt it. Braunias displayed, in recent tweats, that his journalistic objectivity may be ovewr-ridden by his emotional prejudice. We will see how the CA deals with it.
      
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      October 5, 2017 8:44am
      - Notsofast
        
        Yes we shall Nookin. The New Zealand appeal court is on trial. If they make a pig’s ear of this they will be examined by the supreme court and if necessary Lord Kerr and the privy council once more. Of all the people on this message board you may see that this is a serious matter.
        
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        October 5, 2017 8:52am
- Keeping Stock
  
  No wonder Braunias wrote so lovingly about Ardern, and so scathingly about English. Don’t you think high-profile media figures like Braunias should disclose their relationships with politicians, so we can read their musings through the appropriate coloured lens?
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:21am
  - Notsofast
    
    No. The silence of NZ media on matters of public interest fuels the ability of political and judicial classes to wreak havoc with a very large number of New Zealand families and individuals. It is happening to you Palmerston North pitchforkers.
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:24am
    - Nookin
      
      But the way in which they do it, driven by their own prejudices and persoanl attachments (such as are evident in your own posts) destroys any confidence in their message. Paddy Gower’s disgraceful performance this morning is a classic example.
      
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      October 5, 2017 8:47am
      - Notsofast
        
        I have no prejudice or personal attachment in the Lundy case. I have never met him and live in Auckland. Why do the media not study the case? At least Braunias has read the police notebooks, the transcripts, the scientific literature that reveal the case facts. The material also reveals the motives and opportunity of the perpetrators, I have gone as far as I can in revealing all this here. There is no other forum that gets readers, so bleak as this neighbourhood is, it must suffice.
        
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        October 5, 2017 9:04am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Nookin – do you think we might have established this morning that Notsofast and Steve Braunias might be one and the same?
        
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        October 5, 2017 9:29am
      - Notsofast
        
        No no, the closest I got to Steve’s noble presence was a book launch at Remuera public library. I have bought several copies, mainly to help people with the Lundy debacle.
        
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        October 5, 2017 10:26am
    - Random T Person
      
      Golly someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
      
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      October 5, 2017 8:55am
      - Notsofast
        
        It is something of a luxury to sleep in one’s own bed. I bet you take it for granted.
        Don’t, the hydra will inevitably snatch some one else.
        
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        October 5, 2017 9:06am
  - lifesgood
    
    Hard to find people saying much good about Braunias. Seems he’s made a good few enemies along the way. I wouldn’t trust his opinions, he writes them well, though.
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:42am
    - Notsofast
      
      Trust his facts, opinions are irrelevant. I have read the same material he has. No one who has read the material has even the remotest doubt about the innocence of Mark Lundy and the devious mchinations of the police and ptrosecutors in the case, Ably assisted by editor of the Manawatu Standard MICHAEL CUMMINGS. He knows the truth but decided selling newspapers was the key to his career.
      Some journalists may demur.
      
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      October 5, 2017 9:09am
- holysheet
  
  At least you have one name correct. Peter Ellis is the only innocent one in your list.
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:42am
  - Notsofast
    
    No you are wrong. David Bain and Mark Lundy are on my list for a straightforward reason. Judith Collins preferred Martin Van Beynen to the crime scene evidence in Bain. I hope she is kicked out of the ball park by Sir Winston.
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:10am
- fylde
  
  Notsofast – are you deluded or just making a joke?
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:48am
  - Notsofast
    
    I am not deluded. The case facts in Lundy are stark, and should be revealed in the appeal court for the first time if the defence attorney attends to his vocation.
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:12am
    - Duxton
      
      You sound like you need a vacation.
      
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      October 5, 2017 11:50am
- KKKKatee
  
  I’ve just read The Cause of Death written by the Pathologist who handled the Lundy case. I’d certainly believe his findings over that of your mate Braunias. Dr Cynric Temple-Camp has the scientific evidence to back up his claim ‘who dunnit’. I suggest you get the book and read it from cover to cover. And perhaps point your mate Steve B in the same direction.
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:50am
  - Notsofast
    
    Temple Camp could be considered in contempt of court for distributing his vile garbage before the pending appeal. He is an arrogant ne’er do well.
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:13am
    - CHFR1
      
      And your mate is the paragon of virtue??
      
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      October 5, 2017 10:07am
  - KKKKatee
    
    One can’t argue with forensics. I’m not aware that Steve Braunias is a Pathologist nor is he qualified in forensic science researche to my knowledge.
    
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    October 5, 2017 5:03pm
- Swifty
  
  Lundy done it.
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:55am
  - Jack5
    
    Dead bloody right, Swifty. Lundy murdered his own little daughter as well as his wife.
    
    Psychopaths are notorious for their ability to manipulate people. Braunias has been conned.
    
    Bring back capital punishment!
    
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    October 5, 2017 10:31am
    - Notsofast
      
      Names that come to mind are Phil Morgan, Ben Vanderkolk, John Pike.
      
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      October 5, 2017 11:02am
DifferentPerspective

Another climate change sacred cow bites the dust!

Don’t you just hate it when the real world keeps on failing to do as the unsettled ‘settled’ science predicts.

One of the great sacred cows of the Chicken Little Climate Alarmists has been how the bleaching of the Great Barrier Reef is a global tragedy and we should therefore buy into the great globalist wealth redistribution carbon credit conspiracy.

Well it seems that particular sacred cow is also selfishly refusing to support the climate alarmists, God-damn if that pesky reef isn’t showing fabulous signs of recovery. Environmentalists and climate troughers around the world will be praying that the Great Barrier Reef does the decent thing and dies off so they can continue to pedal the greatest fraud of our time.

We know a couple of things:
– Socialists can’t help themselves they lie about absolutely everything
– Journalists can’t help themselves, they lie about absolutely everything
– Scientists can’t help themselves, if they can get funded to do their hobby, they’ll lie about absolutely anything
– The more socialists, journalists and scientists try to stifle debate on anything that disagrees with their views on orthodoxy, the more likely it is that a cover-up is going on
– Socialists, journalists and scientists are big supporters of climate change
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October 5, 2017 8:02am
- JIV
  
  Also, if global warming was the entire problem with the Great Barrier Reef why are they introducing giant sea snails to feast on crown of thorns starfish. Several years ago the bleaching was blamed on these starfish, until a “scientific” paper used such terms as could, might and possibly to try to link global warming to bleaching. There is no climate science, just a reason to tax and distribute wealth.
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:10am
  - G152
    
    They were pulling this bullshit in the 60s when I was diving.
    It was claimed that the GBR would be dead by the 80s through bleaching, pollution and Crown of Thorns.
    Most of the towns on that coast are supported by the tour dive companies boats that take tourists out to the GBR to dive on it.
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:47am
- SGA
  
  That works well – since no one can use any source written by a scientist or journalist to refute your beliefs, then I guess you are pretty much immune from contradiction 🙂
  Strange world we live in.
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:14am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The lowered sea-levels during El Nino’s are the critical factor in Coral bleaching.
  
  The phenomenon has been known about for decades…. just conveniently forgotten by current researchers, it seems.
  http://landscapesandcycles.net/falling-sea-level–bleached-great-barrier-reef.html
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:22am
- Gabby
  
  Job creating honestjohn business community fostering economy nurturing ceos never lie and are worth every penny the shareholders find they’ve voted them.
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:59am
  - CHFR1
    
    Do you just have a random word generator Gabby, I only ask because it is almost impossible to make sense of what you write.
    
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    October 5, 2017 10:08am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      nah – just another random no life.
      
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      October 6, 2017 2:14am
- billr
  
  Personally I’d take anything Delingpole says with more than a pinch of salt.
  
  this is where he sourced his ‘fabulous recovery’ story.
  http://www.aims.gov.au/docs/media/latest-news/-/asset_publisher/EnA5gMcJvXjd/content/early-signs-that-bleached-coral-reefs-could-recover
  
  the title says it all, ‘could recover’ and when you read the article, there is good news, but it’s nowhere near a fabulous recovery.
  
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  October 5, 2017 11:01am
Happychappy

Well folks it is only a matter of time before the next Government will be known and by this time next week if you take Winston First at his word it will be all over.
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October 5, 2017 8:04am
- Paulus
  
  Next week with Winston will only be the start !
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:12am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Quite so Paulus.
    
    I am fast coming to the conclusion that whoever Winston annoints next week will struggle to win the 2020 General Election, and from a long-term point of view, it may actually be better for National NOT to win a fourth term now.
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:22am
    - Happychappy
      
      But the worse thing about that is that if Winston gets to lower the percentage a party needs to stay in Parliament from 5% he is likely to have helped his Party to avoid extinction.
      
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      October 5, 2017 8:34am
    - VicParking
      
      The problem with National deciding that they don’t wont to be the government is the fact that a number of their senior members are starting on their last term, because of age, and do not wish to do so in opposition
      
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      October 5, 2017 9:03am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        No problem. A spell in opposition for National might just be the spur said “senior members” need to pursue other options.
        
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        October 5, 2017 9:32am
      - Colville
        
        KS.
        Yip there are a few on National’s front bench that have had it too easy for too long.
        We need some angry voices, not comfortable relaxed ones !
        
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        October 5, 2017 9:44am
- holysheet
  
  What fuckwit in the teachers union thought it was a good idea to announce their plans for strikes next year. If the thought of Liabore going over their budget spending is not enough for the drunken dwarf to go with the nats , nothing will.
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:47am
  - VicParking
    
    Pay more for teachers to be in Auckland, pay more for teachers to move to the country, pay more for teachers to teach the sciences, pay more for teachers to teach the arts and worst of all pay teachers not to teach (at union meetings)
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:06am
  - KevOB
    
    Why was it withheld before the election?
    
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    October 5, 2017 3:48pm
oldpark

Talk about self praise being no recommendation. Or “empty vessels make the most sound”. heard “Commie Chic” Comrade Ardern describe herself as trustworthy and full of integrity, and that type of self praise is just what Mr Peters needs. Wonder if she was such a special trustworthy person why the voters only give her 45 Seats and National 58 Seats , Sounds like the voters decided that her trustworthy and integrity,matched her vision,a figment of her imagination.
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October 5, 2017 8:09am
- krazykiwi
  
  Comrade Ardern describe herself as trustworthy and full of integrity
  
  Anyone who needs to say two these things is neither.
  
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  October 5, 2017 9:10am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Quite so KK. Obviously Ms Ardern is not familiar with this Māori proverb:
    
    Kāore te kumara e kōrero ana mo tōna ake reka.
    
    The kumara does not brag about its own sweetness.
    
    Whether or not Ms Ardern is trustworthy is a matter for the voters to decide.
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:34am
  - RF
    
    That’s straight from Helen Clarks “I am the greatest” book.
    
    Just a bloody clone.
    
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    October 5, 2017 1:11pm
softail 1450

we know things have gone full circle in our country when the bloated boss of barfoot and Thompson, peter Thompson comes on lefty tv3 and says ” things are tough for commission only estate agents at the moment”.
I’m starting to feel the tears filling my eyes for them already……
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October 5, 2017 8:10am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Things won’t be tough for them for too long. The laws of economics are as merciless as the laws of nature. Once their numbers thin out, there will be plenty of commission to feed them and their families. Just like in the animal kingdom. Once a population grows too large for their habitat to sustain them, natural attrition or culling will return the population to sustainable levels.
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:28am
  - VicParking
    
    You can’t walk down the main street of Whanganui without running into three or four real estate sales ‘people’. Boom and bust
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:10am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    “Once a population grows too large for their habitat to sustain them, natural attrition or culling will return the population to sustainable levels.”
    
    But wait! NZ can tap into an unlimited well of immigrants to keep demand for Auckland resources high, while at the same time legally constraining the supply of resources. What could possibly go wrong?
    
    (Still waiting for the coffee to kick in.)
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:24am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Had two agents calling in the last two days wanting to provide a “free evaluation” and a “sponsored” marketing campaign to sell my place. Not interested.
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:44am
  - Colville
    
    IMHO its not that number of agents that is making it hard for them but the bouyant pricing of houses at present.
    Its so easy to sell your house yourself so people are not listing with agents.
    A bust in house pricing would help agents in the short term because in a falling market there are plenty of forced sales and its easy for an agent to feed the fear and get a listing. Its only after the bust flattened out and the market quietens down again that the agent numbers will fall off as the weaker agents go back to other jobs.
    Good agents thrive in whatever market as they are good at all aspects of the role. Weak agents that rely on a few friends and have low expectations fall off pretty quickly.
    Personally I never deal with any agent (to sell something) unless they have been in the trade for 20 + years. If I am buying its great to deal with a newbie because they often have a weak game and are easy to exploit.
    
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    October 5, 2017 11:53am
Paulus

Pleased to see that at the start of the “Winston Election Programme” that the Unions are beginning the next election already the Teachers giving notice of their 14.5% pay rise.
Understand that the Wellington train drivers union went on strike yesterday.
Portents the return of Angry Andy to run the country.
The Unions did not put Cinderella into the top job remember – Clark and Robertson did during a short quirk of the Labour rules.
It remains very possible at the next Labour Annual meeting that a new Leader will be appointed by the Unions as is their right.
Listening to tye chattering media this morning they are saying that NZ First supporters are very much in favour of Winston going with Labour but no media “expert’ said that that would make no difference as they still needed the Greens to complete the picture.
Winston to cross benches to make an absolute nuisance of himself. His Power will then corrupt all that we know, and we will have another election within 18 months by which time Labour will have got their act together – not necessarily with Cinderella as she is now being found wanting – except by the so called media.
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October 5, 2017 8:11am
Inandout

Pike River as a condition for whom he joins, so Winston finally gets his way. I just hope for Bill’s sake they find nothing incriminating.
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October 5, 2017 8:11am
- Lance
  
  Like what?????
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:13am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    The missing evidence from Lundy’s case. Dum dum dum…. (dramatic sound effect)
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:30am
    - Inandout
      
      The world’s worst acting accused.
      
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      October 5, 2017 8:54am
    - VicParking
      
      Or the missing yacht
      
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      October 5, 2017 9:12am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Don’t be silly. How on earth would you get a yacht down a mine? It wouldn’t fit!
        
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        October 5, 2017 9:34am
      - Ed Snack
        
        No way, a ketch wouldn’t fit down there. If it was a small sloop though….who knows..
        
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        October 5, 2017 9:45am
      - Colville
        
        I have seen a yacht in a bottle..a lot smaller than a mine! 🙂
        
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        October 5, 2017 9:52am
      - RF
        
        Lord Lucan or Jimmy Hoffa ?
        
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        October 5, 2017 1:19pm
  - Inandout
    
    I don’t know, I am just saying I hope not. Look what has surfaced before the election with emails and Winston’s over payments. Bill will have to face whatever Winston demands.
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:53am
    - Happychappy
      
      Well it could be another explosion so who will face the consequences if that happens.
      
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      October 5, 2017 1:44pm
  - Gabby
    
    His cellphone lants.
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:03am
  - Anne Glen Eden
    
    That’s easy. Bodies – and/or evidence that if they’d let Mines Rescue go in after the first explosion, some would have survived.
    
    I have no doubt that it’s believed that’s exactly what will be found and why no-one has been allowed in – or why it’s being delayed so long.
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:15am
    - Lance
      
      We saw robot images recently down the mine, smoking gun and all that.
      The only thing smoking was the metal robot just before it failed transmitting (clearly visible)
      It was so bloody hot the robot melted.
      
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      October 5, 2017 3:10pm
- skyblue
  
  Posted in WO regarding Pike River.
  
  Peters has a history of using using dead bodies to his advantage. In 2008 he used his still warm corpse of his mother to reveal he found out about the Owen Glenn donation. This was Friday 18 July 2008.
  References:
  1. Mother dies – https://www.nbr.co.nz/artic… – dated 18/7/08.
  2. Timline of Owen Glenn Saga –
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/n… – go to 18 July where it says:
  July 18:
  ‘Winston Peters says
  Owen Glenn donated $100,000 towards a legal action he mounted after the 2005 election, but denies the money was given to his party and says he only just found out about it.’
  
  This has always stuck in my mind as IMHO he used the death of his mother to garner public sympathy and try and bury the donation saga which ultimately cost him 3 years in the trough.
  
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  October 5, 2017 12:10pm
Lance

TV3 was way worse that usual this morning.
Utter gobshite

Garner and Gower were drivelling on about the Pike families. How they were first to see Winney the dwarf and they have National in a headlock and and and the re-entry will expose that this has been a big govt cover up.
FFS

Alas no Mark Richardson to add a hint of balance, just some empty dress who only piped up when it came to commenting on biscuits.
You can’t make this shit up

I can’t imagine how bad TV1 was
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October 5, 2017 8:12am
- Inandout
  
  Did Ruby Lips say anything?
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:13am
  - Lance
    
    If she was the Mark Richardson stand in… no. Only went on about biscuits (the part I could stomach watching anyway)
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:16am
    - Inandout
      
      I call the newsreader with the whining voice, Ruby Lips.
      
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      October 5, 2017 8:56am
      - RF
        
        The makeup dept at TV 3 is bloody useless. Pale face with bright red over sized Botox lips.
        
        For christs sake someone tell her.
        
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        October 5, 2017 1:26pm
  - Gabby
    
    He said Richardson wasn’t there downanout.
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:04am
    - softail 1450
      
      shit the bed again grubby ?
      
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      October 5, 2017 9:06am
      - Gabby
        
        Tits tangled in your chain again, girlybike softcock?
        
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        October 5, 2017 6:05pm
    - Inandout
      
      ‘It’s important you contact us right away as there may be a stand-down period of up to 13 weeks before payments are made. It depends on why you’ve been fired or left your job’.
      
      There is still time to visit WINZ , Guber, and we may have a break from your diatribe.
      
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      October 5, 2017 9:15am
- Keeping Stock
  
  My life is far happier these days Lance. because I have given breakfast TV the big thumbs down.
  
  Instead, the radio goes on while I have my first cuppa of the morning, so I don’t have to endure either Tame or Garner. That does wonders for my mood heading to work and I am sure my staff appreciate it 😀
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:26am
  - Lance
    
    I have been hoping against hope that it was all going to improve somehow, especially now the election has finished (sort of).
    Alas the hysterical shrieking has not abated so I think your advice is worth taking.
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:30am
    - VicParking
      
      They will shriek until they have convinced us they were right and predicted the result six months ago.
      
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      October 5, 2017 9:15am
  - Tarquin North
    
    When my alarm goes at 6am I have to put up with that knob on coast counting down the days till Christmas! If I wasn’t so miserable I’d buy a new alarm clock with a better aerial. In the lounge we get Heads fm out of Mangawhai – good music and no inane D.J’s. I won’t even risk the T.V.
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:35am
    - Lance
      
      Yes
      Alas that fleeting feeling of satisfaction as you hurl a heavy object at the TV to shut up the crap emanating from it, will quickly be replaced with that sinking feeling of having to buy another TV.
      
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      October 5, 2017 8:47am
    - VicParking
      
      The Knob is already up when I wake up.
      
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      October 5, 2017 9:17am
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    I’m sure that both morning tv programmes get together before they go to air and agree on what they will blame trump for today ,they probably pick up a few tips on the way from Al Jazeera.
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:45am
  - alex Masterley
    
    I have stopped watching breakfast TV and dont even listen to the radio anymore.
    I quickly flick through the herald before handing it and a cup of to my wife then I check various news sites on the Ipad in blessed silence.
    
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    October 5, 2017 8:55am
    - VicParking
      
      You had more for you first sentence but then the failing newspaper…?
      
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      October 5, 2017 9:18am
  - Nookin
    
    The best television moment of recent times occurred on the Garner Self-Aggrandizement Show yesterday morning.
    
    I cannot remember the subject but Garner’s words went something like this:
    “This has made me start to think…”
    Ingrid, who had been the butt of Garner’s tactic of boosting his own self-esteem by putting down others was very quick to say:
    “Well, I guess it had to happen sometime…” followed by the comment to the effect that we should not be too surprised.
    
    Somebody should pin Gower down and demand evidence that it was the national government and not the Solid Energy Board that directed the pouring of concrete.
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:10am
Maggy Wassilieff

Pete George has a long posting on the Whale oil/Katherine Rich/Carrick Graham v. Food scientists defamation case.

https://yournz.org/2017/10/05/sellman-swinburn-bradbrook-v-slater-graham-rich/

a blog post is an ongoing publication
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October 5, 2017 8:15am
- sam green
  
  I expect Farrar will be writing an op ed piece shortly.
  
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  October 5, 2017 9:21am
- KevOB
  
  WO seems to fall enemy to his own judgement–ambition exceeding capacity?
  
  How can he afford to pay for all the litigation he is entangled with?
  
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  October 5, 2017 4:14pm
pacnum

Quick question about Employment stats.

Hi, – during the election I had some interesting chats with some green party door knockers. One stat that they used was around the unemployment figures used, and in their belief – manipulated by the national government.

They were claiming that if someone works 1 hr per week, then they are counted as employed, and therefore this brings the true state of unemployment in New Zealand higher.

I can’t seem to see any confirmation of this – can anyone point me in the correct place for this?

I understand that people on benefits can earn a certain amount of $$ per week before they need to adjust their benefits or allowances etc … however – 1 hr per week seems a bit of an over exaggeration.

Keen to confirm or deny this statement.

Cheers,
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October 5, 2017 8:20am
- mandk
  
  The one hour thing is correct, but it has been that way for donkey’s years.
  And it is in line with the ILO’s standard methodology.
  
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  October 5, 2017 9:12am
oldpark

Was thinking that Ardern ,while she was waiting to fluke the PMs job,must have been reading crooked Hillary Clintons book of excuses,excuses ,excuses.
During Arderns campaign of half truths, lies,and misleading comments on Lie-bours proposed great CGT and Inheritance tax (Dead Granny Tax) ambush. Ardern made so many flip flops,and change of direction,not knowning that you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. In fact if she wasn’t already known as “Commie Chic” Comrade Ardern, her new title would have been “Flip Flop Comrade “Ardern. Last count she made six “Flip Flops” . Latest one classing herself as” trustworthy and full of integrity”.Think she could be a future candidate for Ripleys believe it or not.
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October 5, 2017 8:22am
- KKKKatee
  
  She told a few porkies in the lead up to the election. I personally wouldn’t trust her as far as I could kick her. Transparent? Not. Nor would I trust the rest of the sycophants who make the other #9 in Labour. They are a dismal lot and certainly not fit to govern imo.
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:41am
flipper

As we move ever closer to October 7 it is worth remembering (lest B P go through the roof) that:

• A reporter reports, without interpretation or the twisting of words or pictures
• A “journalist” is a failed reporter suffering from self-aggrandizement
• A print media “journalist” is also a failed reporter, but probably worse since they have time to reconsider their palpable left-wing bias.
• A TV presenter is neither reporter nor journalist but a “broadcaster”
• A BROADCASTER claiming to be a reporter or a journalist is a fraud
• A TV or radio producer, or print media click bait chaser, is a failed reporter and considered too “ugly” to be either “journalist, “broadcaster” or presenter, but always weaving their wicked left-wing web of bullshit, while hiding from public view.
New Zealand has an over-abundance of “journalists,” click bait chasers, producers and “broadcasters”, but few, if any in 2017, “reporters”.
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October 5, 2017 8:26am
Monique Watson

Tillerson called Trump a ‘moron’, back in July and now it’s been leaked to the media, he’s backpedaling like a clown on coke and a unicycle.
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October 5, 2017 8:44am
- cha
  
  Confirmed.
  
  The @NBCNews story has just been totally refuted by Sec. Tillerson and @VP Pence. It is #FakeNews. They should issue an apology to AMERICA!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 4, 2017
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:47am
- softail 1450
  
  fake news ,probably cnn .
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:48am
  - Paulus
    
    Or Washington Post or New York Times usually as they pass it on to CNN.
    Then the Auckland Herald makes it fact !
    
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    October 5, 2017 10:37am
- Gabby
  
  It’s a lie Monquey. It was ‘fucking moron’ I believe.
  
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  October 5, 2017 9:08am
- SPC
  
  Typical, Tillerson confirms that he called Trump a moron, and Trump resorts to calling the story fake news and Tillerson’s confirmation, a denial.
  
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  October 5, 2017 11:24am
billmurray

Only another 3 months before the election is over, yippee!.
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October 5, 2017 8:45am
peterwn

I was surprised to read that Air NZ and other international airlines have had to dispose of unopened food and drink containers when arriving in NZ (assuming I read the news item correctly). In Air NZ’s case agreement has been reached that the caterers may unload these items and re-load them on subsequent flights. Presumably it is the greater emphasis on waste reduction and recycling that forced the biosecurity authority’s hand on this one. Looks like bureaucratic intransigence has been defeated in this case.
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October 5, 2017 8:49am
fylde

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41493370

Theresa May speech – you could not make this up !!!
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October 5, 2017 8:49am
- Gabby
  
  It’s them Cuban death rays again, I’m telling you.
  
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  October 5, 2017 6:01pm
holysheet

Don’t be too disappointed, but I make a prediction now that the greens will not get above the 5%.
This has been such an unusual election that it’s not beyond the realms of possibilities that this happens.
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October 5, 2017 8:54am
- Keeping Stock
  
  No show of that happening holysheet. One thing the Greens are good at is getting people overseas to vote. IIRC, they sent Metiria to the UK to campaign; a pity about the carbon footprint, but what the heck!
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:57am
- Ross12
  
  Not going to happen holysheet. Note this from GD yesterday
  
  “chris
  
  I ran the numbers, and they’d have to get less than 600 of the 384000 special votes to drop below 5%. So mathematically possible, but statistically improbable.
  Thumb up 22 Thumb down 0REPLYREPORTOCTOBER 4, 2017 8:33AM”
  
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  October 5, 2017 9:55am
Padriv Ustoev

Do you guys remember Jian Yang?

They guy who is an MP and not a Chinese spy? Remember how any allegations against him are just a racist smear campaign?

Well he is internet famous now. An American investigative journalist/comedian that specializes in China has a nice clip about him that explains why he is a spy.
Also explains why it’s not all over the papers. Too spicy its seems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmGcKsozj2M
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October 5, 2017 9:11am
- kowtow
  
  If people think the Comrades are nice little oriental gentlemen with our best interests in mind then they are really stupid.
  
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  October 5, 2017 9:33am
- Gabby
  
  It’s fine. Comrade Jian is astute businessman. Farm purchases are honourable. No strategy. No illustrious prosperity bank directorships available, very sorry.
  
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  October 5, 2017 11:42am
  - softail 1450
    
    as much as it pains me grubby I can’t disagree,,,,,,,
    
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    October 5, 2017 11:52am
publicwatchdog

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Another reason, IMO, why National need to be ‘cleaned out’ of office.

How on earth can a 100% Crown-owned company, with $1.6 BILLION worth of former Housing NZ Tamaki properties, not have been listed
as a Sch 4A Company under the Public Finance Act?

I’m talking about Tamaki Regeneration Ltd.

The Crown Shareholding Ministers for Tamaki Regeneration Ltd are currently the Minister of Finance, Steven Joyce, (formerly Bill English), and Minister of Building and Construction Nick Smith.

IMO, the buck stops with Bill English, Steven Joyce and Nick Smith for this significant lack of lawful probity and accountability.

IMO, this politically corrupt, cancerous growth needs to be electorally ‘surgically removed’, and National need to be cleaned out from holding power in the NZ Government.

https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/5840214/shareholdings?backurl=%2Fcompanies%2Fapp%2Fui%2Fpages%2Fcompanies%2Fsearch%3Fmode%3Dstandard%26type%3Dentities%26q%3DTamaki%2520Regeneration%2520Ltd

This shows the Shareholding of Tamaki Regeneration Ltd (TRL) which is 100% owned by the Crown, has over 1.6 billion shares, of which just 100 shares are owned by Tamaki Redevelopment Company Ltd.
TRC (59% Crown – 41% Auckland Council).

Tamaki Redevelopment Company Ltd (TRC) and Tamaki Regeneration Ltd (TRL) are two separate companies, with different shareholders, Constitutions, ‘aims and objectives’.

Tamaki Redevelopment Company was supposedly focused on ‘regeneration’ of Glen Innes, Pt England and Panmure.

However, Tamaki Regeneration Ltd, IMO, is actually delivering gentrification, on behalf of private property developers and investors.

Why is TRL not equally listed as a Sch 4A Company under the Public Finance Act, as is TRC?

Public Finance Act 1989 No 44 (as at 04 September 2017), Public Act Schedule 4A Non-listed companies in which Crown is majority or sole shareholder – New Zealand Legislation

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1989/0044/latest/DLM5466801.html

Where is Tamaki Regeneration Ltd?
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TRL owns $1.6 billion worth of former Housing NZ properties- TRC owns nothing.

As I understand it – because TRL is NOT so listed – it does not come under the State Services Commission regarding ‘Code Of Conduct’ / ‘Integrity’?

http://www.ssc.govt.nz/code-organisations

Agencies covered by the State Services Commissioner’s Standards of Integrity and Conduct | State Services Commission

Tāmaki Redevelopment Company Limited (TRC)

But NOT Tamaki Regeneration Ltd (TRL) which actually OWNS $1.6 billion worth of former Tamaki State housing assets!

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Neither TRC nor TRL are listed as Sch 2 companies under the Crown Entities Act.

Crown Entities Act 2004 No 115 (as at 01 July 2017), Public Act Schedule 2 Crown entity companies – New Zealand Legislation

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2004/0115/latest/DLM331125.html
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TRL is not listed as a company that comes under Treasury’s Crown Monitoring Unit.

The Crown’s Commercial Portfolio: A to Z of Entities —

http://www.treasury.govt.nz/statesector/commercial/portfolio/atoz
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So – how is this 100% Crown-owned TRL, with $1.6 billion worth of former Tamaki Housing NZ properties, being audited and monitored in a proper, lawful and accountable way?

How on earth did this happen?

Who is responsible for ensuring 100% Crown-owned companies, ARE properly listed under the Public Finance Act?

And the Crown Entities Act?

What is the role of the Office of the Auditor-General (OAG) in ensuring that 100% Crown-owned companies, are correctly listed as such, in under-pinning legislation?

How about Treasury’s Crown Monitoring Unit?

How about the Crown Shareholding Ministers of Tamaki Regeneration Ltd?

Formerly Bill English – now Steven Joyce and Nick Smith?

How about the Board of Directors of Tamaki Regeneration Ltd?

WHO IS RESPONSIBLE?

WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY?

How truly ‘mickey mouse’ is this?

All happening in New Zealand, ‘perceived’ to be the ‘least corrupt country in the world’ (according to, IMO, the obviously completely meaningless 2016 Transparency International ‘Corruption Perception Index’.

Penny Bright

‘Anti-corruption whistle-blower’.
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October 5, 2017 9:18am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “Another reason, IMO, why National need to be ‘cleaned out’ of office”
  
  Penny, enough of this garbage.
  I can think of a very good reason why a certain Ms. P. Bright needs to be ‘cleaned out’ of her house.
  
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  October 5, 2017 9:28am
  - stigie
    
    Who would want to go there with the putrid cat stench..?
    
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    October 5, 2017 10:15am
    - peterwn
      
      Yes, if you can get it at a knock-down price at the forthcoming High Court ordered auction.
      
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      October 5, 2017 10:29am
      - sooty
        
        Penny is this a repost of last night?
        
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        October 5, 2017 10:49am
- Rich Prick
  
  WTF?
  
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  October 5, 2017 9:31am
- G152
  
  pay your rates
  
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  October 5, 2017 10:22am
Monique Watson

Fuck off and go cry on Brian Tamaki’s shoulder.
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October 5, 2017 9:25am
Rich Prick

BREAKING NEWS: Cath is flat hunting. And the acting HNZ regional commissioner and the HNZ area manager are keeping a look out for her too.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/97540525/nelson-solo-mother-living-in-shed-cant-find-suitable-motel-for-respite
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October 5, 2017 9:29am
- Inandout
  
  Well there is a bus shelter in Blenheim to occupy, partly glassed in, but with a fucking big hole in the roof to let the Maori sky fairies in.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/97376462/council-defends-hole-in-bus-shelter-logic
  
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  October 5, 2017 10:43am
- GoVege
  
  Kath is caring for 6 kids, but is actually a mum of….12!
  Another victim of the social services’ policy of employees being forbidden to mention to clients the dirty word…”contraception”?
  (And could not even one of the dads help provide a home for his offspring? )
  
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  October 5, 2017 10:55am
  - sam green
    
    What exactly is the policy go vege?
    
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    October 5, 2017 11:24am
  - sam green
    
    …… and which “social services” have the policy?
    
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    October 5, 2017 1:24pm
    - GoVege
      
      Hi Sam: NZ social workers are not permitted to suggest to clients the possibility of using contraception, or they will lose their job.
      Years ago I was talking to a social worker at CYPF about a mother of 8 children who was pimping her 15 year old and teaching the kids crime.
      When I asked “can’t you mention contraception to her” she sighed loudly and said “we’re not allowed to”.
      Whenever someone has tried to change this policy, there are usually screams of “genocide” from various organizations.
      
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      October 5, 2017 8:50pm
      - sam green
        
        Bullshit.
        
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        October 6, 2017 7:49am
  - waikatogirl
    
    You’d have to live under a rock or be stupid not to know to use contraception unless it is financially viable for you to continue to have kids. ?
    A life style choice.
    
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    October 5, 2017 2:16pm
    - GoVege
      
      WG: You’d be surprised how many people in this country are illiterate (as well as ignorant).
      The way that parents of huge families usually cope with their large broods is to make the older children look after the younger ones.
      It makes life easier for the parents, but the kids are often kept out of school and miss large parts of their education.
      The end result is illiterate parents breeding illiterate kids and so on.
      Fortunately the generous taxpayers of this small nation are happy to foot the ever-increasing bill… 🙂
      
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      October 5, 2017 8:57pm
- KevOB
  
  Regrettable, but what else can be expected with a large number of older children. It’s hardly news: even good people have problems getting adequate affordable accommodation. She is doing her best to make do temporarily which is perfectly proper.
  
  Life sometimes comes with difficulties.
  
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  October 5, 2017 4:26pm
  - GoVege
    
    Kath is a good woman.
    Many solo mums kick their kids out of home at 15 or 16, even handicapped kids, because as teens, they become too expensive.
    Even when the mum has got secure housing.
    
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    October 5, 2017 9:29pm
- Piniwi
  
  Yes RP. The picture tells a thousand words. Her “shed” is half full of home gym gear. Essential for a solo mother to keep fit? They are desperate for click bait as this a rerun of an earlier sod story.
  
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  October 5, 2017 4:42pm
Manolo

That is a big fine:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/04/amazon-eu-tax-bill-luxembourg-deal.html

Amazon was ordered to pay 250 million euros ($294 million) to Luxembourg on Wednesday after the European Commission said the online retailer had received illegal tax benefits.
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October 5, 2017 9:44am
Nookin

Clearly, our world is now turning upside down. It seems that as a matter of course now, the tail wags the dog.
Peters is dictating to English whom he may bring to a meeting. Now we appear to have eight league players shifting allegiance because they are exceedingly pissed that a coach suspended a couple of their mates for cocaine use.

I agree with Graham Lowe. The people who play for New Zealand must be people who want to play for New Zealand. They should be told that if they go out out the door, they will not be getting back in again.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11929684
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October 5, 2017 10:00am
GoVege

More moocows (and bulls) make a break for freedom from Hamilton stockyards. ..before being mown down in a hail of bullets.
Sweet young lady stays with latest escapee and prays for him as he breathes his last.
Hope this makes her….Go Vege..
🙂
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October 5, 2017 10:34am
- Swifty
  
  Hail of bullets, or just one by the local home kill guy?
  
  I understand the latter.
  
  Will you apologise to Wally Smith’s homekills for impuning their professional reputation?
  
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  October 5, 2017 11:09am
  - waikatogirl
    
    We used Wally Smith’s homekill services. Top notch service. The marksmen are excellent, 1 shot out of the truck cab so the animal has no idea what is happening. I can assure you ONE bullet is all that it takes with those guys. However, we did have a bullet to a steer’s head bounce off as its skull was too hard but he got it with the next shot. Said that hadn’t happened for 20 years!
    
    A few years ago a bull got out of the yards in Hamilton. The police were useless at killing the animal and Wally Smith’s boys stepped in and sorted it. ?
    
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    October 5, 2017 2:26pm
    - GoVege
      
      Hi fellas.
      I have once before seen a cow shot and it was very humanely done, only requiring one bullet.
      An escaping bull on the loose I am sure would be a lot more difficult.
      The “hail of bullets” was just a bit of poetic licence.
      Please apologize to Wally on my behalf. 🙂
      
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      October 5, 2017 9:45pm
- softail 1450
  
  vegetable. you would have to be one of the more obsessive vegans I have ever witnessed,nobody is reading your crap anymore because it is nearly all about your obsession with eating grass ,,,,,,,,,and denigrating meat eaters ,F/O please.
  ps,are you related to gabby ?
  
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  October 5, 2017 11:10am
  - GoVege
    
    Softail : my intention is never to “denigrate meat-eaters”.
    I merely wish to advise you of all the tasty alternatives available to eating our mammalian cuzzies.
    I don’t believe I am related to Gabby, but I am a fan.
    
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    October 5, 2017 10:05pm
- Swifty
  
  Here’s how to get hold of them for your apology:
  
  https://www.wallysmith.co.nz/
  
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  October 5, 2017 11:10am
Swifty

More lies from the left…..

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11929761

No-one is stopping their right to protest, have their say, get their message out or do whatever they like – except getting close to marine vessels going about their lawful business.

But just look at how Norman spins it – it’s no wonder they’re not taken seriously anymore.

Norman is just spinning bald-faced lies.
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October 5, 2017 11:04am
flipper

Penny Bright
‘Anti-corruption whistle-blower’.

Does this not apply to an insane individual like you?
Have you paid your rates? or
When will your hovel be sold?
Have you apologised to Banksie yet bint?
Go away. and indulge your desire for self aggrandisement at the Standard.
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October 5, 2017 11:15am
- stigie
  
  Im am sure Penny is at the Stranded as we speak with her drivel and getting a huge pat on the back.
  You see, they don’t mind over there if someone is ripping off the taxpayer !~
  
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  October 5, 2017 11:30am
  - sooty
    
    I wish she would stay there.
    
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    October 5, 2017 1:41pm
chiz

Jared Kushner, wizard at paperwork and filling in forms:

Jared Kushner, President Trump’s senior adviser and son-in-law, is registered to vote in New York State as a woman, state records show.
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October 5, 2017 11:20am
- Gabby
  
  ‘Sometimes I git the menstrool cramps real bad.’
  
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  October 5, 2017 12:25pm
  - holysheet
    
    Sometimes I git the ~~menstrool~~ mens tool cramps real bad.
    That sounds better.
    
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    October 5, 2017 12:37pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Gobby, you are a menstrual cramp!
    
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    October 5, 2017 2:30pm
    - Gabby
      
      You’re wakko, girl!
      Wash your bloody bin!
      
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      October 5, 2017 5:50pm
Fletch

I know it is pretty obvious, but I was just mulling over events of the past year or so and the fact that Hollywood celebrities, pop stars and the like are just people whose opinions are of no more worth than the people you see around you every day.

They got famous by some trick, or luck, or talent but their opinions shouldn’t really have any more weight; in fact, probably even less as they’re all rich liberals. Yet people look up to them because they are more handsome or pretty but all they do is act (pretend to be someone else) or sing. Most of them aren’t more moral than the ordinary man in the street.
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October 5, 2017 11:35am
- Inandout
  
  Can you imagine Larry Olivier or Alec Guinness in their time spurting vacuous opinions about politics of their day? They were far more realistic.
  
  ‘We ape, we mimic, we mock. We act’. Laurence Olivier
  
  ‘An actor is totally vulnerable. His total personality is exposed to critical judgment – his intellect, his bearing, his diction, his whole appearance. In short, his ego’. Alec Guinness
  
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  October 5, 2017 1:00pm
Hugh Pavletich

In the World’s Most Livable Cities, Hardly Anyone Can Afford a Home – Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-04/in-the-world-s-most-liveable-cities-few-can-afford-to-buy-a-home

• Home ownership among young Australians is at lowest on record

• First-time buyers handicapped by tax perks favoring investors

Supercharged by record low interest rates, a lack of supply and a tax system that favors property investors, home prices have surged more than 140 percent in the past 15 years, propelling Sydney past London and New York to rank as the world’s second-most expensive housing market. Melbourne, ranked the world’s most livable city the past seven years by the Economist Intelligent Unit, is now the planet’s sixth-most expensive place to buy a house. … read more via hyperlink above …

Extensive further reading … MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/
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October 5, 2017 12:31pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  QV’s latest figures show housing values in Auckland are almost back to where they were a year ago … Interest Co NZ
  
  http://www.interest.co.nz/property/90146/qvs-latest-figures-show-housing-values-auckland-are-almost-back-where-they-were-year
  
  Prices at Harcourts’ latest auctions ranged from $195,000 to $2.445m | interest.co.nz
  
  http://www.interest.co.nz/property/90189/prices-harcourts-latest-auctions-ranged-195000-2445m
  
  September’s sales at Barfoot & Thompson were at their lowest level in nine years, with the bottom end of the market the most badly affected | interest.co.nz
  
  http://www.interest.co.nz/property/90163/septembers-sales-barfoot-thompson-were-their-lowest-level-nine-years-bottom-end
  
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  October 5, 2017 1:13pm
  - sooty
    
    You have as much relevance as penny. You should get together! You would both make an ideal couple!
    
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    October 5, 2017 1:39pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Oh … this does look serious …
      
      UPDATE 1-Australian retailers suffer worst sales decline for 4-1/2 years … Reuters
      
      https://uk.reuters.com/article/australia-economy/update-1-australian-retailers-suffer-worst-sales-decline-for-4-1-2-years-idUKL4N1MG08C
      
      * Retail sales drop 0.6 pct in Aug vs 0.3 pct gain f‘casts
      
      * July retail sales revised lower to show 0.2 pct fall
      
      * Falls across all states; food, household goods lead losses … read more via hyperlink above …
      
      Further reading …
      
      https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=australian+retail+sales&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiysoeCztjWAhUMNpQKHUGoC2QQ_AUICigB&biw=985&bih=433
      
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      October 5, 2017 5:17pm
      - softail 1450
        
        so Hugh,this makes you happy,you are like a passenger in an aircraft at 10,000 metres saying fuck this pilot ,,,,
        
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        October 5, 2017 5:33pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        The massive housing bubbles in both Australia and New Zealand sure are looking ‘fragile’ … check out the 5 Important Graphs near the top of http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org …
        
        A whiff of retail panic … MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/10/whiff-retail-panic/
        
        Via CBA:
        
        Today’s August retail trade report was a shocker.
        
        It now looks increasingly likely that strong sales growth in April and May were the anomaly in 2017. The other six months of the year have so far been weak.
        
        It means that the concerns we flagged earlier in the year about the outlook for the retail sector are unfortunately coming to fruition.
        
        On one hand it’s not surprising to see such weak retail trade outcomes given household income growth is so soft. But two consecutive monthly falls looks at odds with the recent strength in the labour market. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        October 5, 2017 6:16pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Remember … we discussed the Irish housing market here at Kiwiblog earlier too …
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/general_debate_20_july_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1971764
        
        LEARNING FROM THE IRISH 2007 HOUSING CRASH … THE SEVERE COSTS OF MULTIPLE STRETCH …
        
        Its high multiple lending that ‘does in’ the Banks and their customers … as they learnt with the Irish housing bubble collapse in 2007.
        
        The New Zealand Banks are in no hurry to repeat the 2007 Irish experience … when the housing bubble burst there … putting all its Banks to the wall and requiring bailouts exceeding 70 billion euro or about $NZ 109 billion.
        
        Irish housing across its metros on average went from 4.7 times annual household income in 2007 to 2.8 a few years later … refer the schedule of Demographia Surveys at http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
        
        Australia is currently 5.5 times … New Zealand 5.9.
        
        Why should the New Zealand and Australian Banks be more resilient than the Irish ones ?
        
        What was the capital base of the Irish Banks in 2006 and 2007 ?
        
        If a 4.7 unweighted median multiple across its metros blew the Irish banks out of the water, how come ours are supposed to survive 5.5 and5.9 respectively with (in New Zealand’s case) a skinny capital base of just $NZ30 billion and a $NZ1 trillion (CoreLogic estimate) housing market with in excess of half it bubble value ?
        
        Following the bust, the Central Bank of Ireland found it was high income multiple lending that did the most damage to the Irish Banks … and it imposed a general lending cap of 3.5 times annual household incomes.
        
        A year earlier the Bank of England had capped at 4.5 times.
        
        In normal housing markets house prices should not exceed 3.0 times annual household income, requiring sensible mortgage loads of about 2.5 times (Demographia Survey).
        
        The days of housing inflation are over. That’s for sure.
        
        Welcome to the real world.
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/06/general_debate_8_june_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1946526
        
        Make a point of watching this excellent interview … where the antics of the twits from Merrill Lynch get mentioned as well …
        
        Prof Bill Black & others discuss the Irish financial system performance … Youtube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7zd5dRILBw
        
        JOHN KEY EXITS HIGH PRICE AUCKLAND RESIDENCE …
        
        Sir John Key’s sprawling Parnell mansion sold for $20m … Fairfax NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/96673228/Sir-John-Keys-sprawling-Parnell-mansion-sold-for-20m?cid=app-iPad
        
        Sir John Key’s perfectly manicured mansion in the leafy suburb of Parnell has been sold for an estimated $20 million.
        
        The six-bedroom Auckland pad on Saint Stephen’s Avenue sprawls across three original sections, totalling 2340sqm.
        
        Nestled amongst some of the most exclusive real estate in Auckland, the mega-mansion affectionately dubbed ‘Klub Key’ by son Max hosted many high profile political meet-and-greets, family celebrations and Instagram-worthy pool parties. … read more via hyperlink above …
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        October 5, 2017 6:29pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Brand Pavlovesdosh here again pushing his wares.
        
        For such a strong capitalist I’d thought you support ACT.
        
        Keep up the good work Who, enough brand recognition and Pavlovesdosh will be a household name.
        
        #loser #getyourownblog #itsuckedsonoonevisited
        
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        October 5, 2017 7:00pm
cha

Bye Rex.

Total confidence in Rex. I have total confidence

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/353898-trump-i-have-total-confidence-in-tillerson
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October 5, 2017 12:34pm
RF

Correct me if I am wrong but I understand that National has previously met the Pike River Mine families. Bernie Monk is now claiming that in 7 years no one from National has bothered to meet the families.

I believe that’s bull shit.

The two corpse huggers, Ardern and Peters have met the families this week and promised to go into the mine.

That whiny voice from Ardern is starting to piss me off.

We are going to hear her whiny voice with foot stamping over the next 3 years with her in opposition unless of course she gets pregnant. God help us if Peters goes with her and she is PM.
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October 5, 2017 2:09pm
- KevOB
  
  If Labour ever arrange to open the mine they should test its safety by holding a full Cabinet meeting there with officials.
  
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  October 5, 2017 4:32pm
  - softail 1450
    
    send in willie Jackson first ,…….
    
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    October 5, 2017 5:37pm
    - KevOB
      
      Willie couldn’t be Cabinet class but he could should go as a porter.
      
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      October 5, 2017 10:07pm
waikatogirl

Stock up on popcorn RF, but make sure you batten down the hatches if they do take office, it will be a rough ride.
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October 5, 2017 2:35pm
- KevOB
  
  It may be a very rough ride for the incoming government: the reports of global financial concerns are increasing.
  
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  October 5, 2017 10:09pm
stigie

“it will be a rough ride.”
I’ll tell you what waikatogirl, it won’t be as much fun as sitting across the road from Penny’s hovel on auction day (with popcorn) waiting for her to go kicking and screaming in the opening doors of the paddy wagon !~
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October 5, 2017 4:10pm
cha

Muslim in the house.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/10/04/a-muslim-chaplains-prayer-to-the-u-s-house/?utm_term=.81559e6f05ea
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October 5, 2017 4:27pm
Piniwi

At a time when political “news” is having to be made up to suit the narrative they seem to miss the good stuff.Like this:

The surplus is $4.1 billion, compared with the pre-election forecast of $3.7bn.

Net debt is at $59.5bn, $2.5bn lower than 2015/2016, and sitting at 22.2 percent of Gross Domestic Product.

With steady economic growth the GDP ratio target set by National can be achieved in this next term. It also means they have an extra $.4 billion more in the kitty than expected.
The possability of a Labour coalition would see this turned around completely with their first budget.
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October 5, 2017 4:58pm
Jack5

Why the West should hang terrorists:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4950418/Lee-Rigby-killer-s-25-000-lawsuit-losing-two-teeth.html
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October 5, 2017 5:03pm
Manolo

Living on borrowed time:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/world/europe/uk-theresa-may-p45-speech.html

Just when Prime Minister Theresa May of Britain needed a rousing, commanding speech to restore authority over her warring Conservative Party, she endured a nightmare.

First there was the prankster, theatrically handing her a notice that she was fired. Then a persistent cough turned her delivery into a croak that was painful to the ear.
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October 5, 2017 5:44pm
- cha
  
  Couldn’t take a trick if she tried.
  
  Can I just point out that Theresa May is wearing a bracelet of Frida Kahlo, a member of the Communist party who LITERALLY DATED TROTSKY pic.twitter.com/CR13geaO7n— HannahJane Parkinson (@ladyhaja) October 4, 2017
  
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  October 5, 2017 5:48pm
cha

Prick had bigger things in mind.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-targeted-aviation-fuel-tanks-source-says/
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October 5, 2017 6:23pm
- nasska
  
  Jet fuel is kerosene. It would take a bit more than a bullet to set it ablaze.
  
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  October 5, 2017 6:44pm
  - cha
    
    Indeed, but he did have a cache of tannerite.
    
    http://fox17.com/news/local/las-vegas-shooter-had-50-pounds-of-tannerite-in-car-why-thats-concerning
    
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    October 5, 2017 7:00pm
    - nasska
      
      The jet fuel tanks were 1100ft away from the hotel. Although he did have the ingredients for a “fertiliser bomb” it wasn’t going to levitate itself over to the tanks.
      
      My guess is that he was going to blow up the car & the hotel as a finale.
      
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      October 5, 2017 7:09pm
      - cha
        
        An exploding car in a sea of J1 would be quite the dramatic end.
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/04/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-survive-police
        
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        October 5, 2017 7:39pm
EAD_TWO

A LOT of unanswered questions about Las Vegas – the MSM is not telling us the full story:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-04/16-unanswered-questions-about-las-vegas-shooting-mainstream-media-doesnt-want-talk-a

The more and more I look into this, the more and more the narrative we’re being fed, the more this stinks. There was definitely more than one shooter.
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October 5, 2017 6:34pm
- mikenmild
  
  I’m just glad that in Reid’s absence there is still at least one loonie around to cry “false flag”.
  
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  October 5, 2017 6:41pm
  - Gruffydd
    
    You have to wonder why he still believes zero hedge after the great financial collapse ~~of 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017~~ coming soon.
    
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    October 5, 2017 6:46pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    How do you explain the fact there is numerous video footage of gunfire coming from the 4th floor?
    
    What did you think of the list of basic unanswered questions in the Zerohedge article?
    
    Or does sneering and downticking constitute a response in Griffs and Milkmaids little world?
    
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    October 5, 2017 6:54pm
    - cha
      
      Cite?.
      
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      October 5, 2017 7:01pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I don’t have to explain anything – especially anything from convergences of insanity like Zero Hedge.
      
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      October 5, 2017 7:01pm
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Here let me help you with that MM
        
        I don’t have to explain anything – ~~especially anything from convergences of insanity like Zero Hedge.~~ because of feelingz
        
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        October 5, 2017 7:13pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        Zero hedge is batshite insane.
        That’s not a feeling that’s a clinical diagnose.
        EAD been wittering apocalypse porn from them for years . Even caused a flood of KB”S regulars stocking up on sardines and beans.
        
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        October 5, 2017 7:24pm
      - nasska
        
        Burp!
        
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        October 5, 2017 7:28pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Got through all those beans yet, nasska?
        
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        October 5, 2017 7:37pm
      - nasska
        
        It’s been a battle Mike but we’re down to the last pallet. 🙂
        
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        October 5, 2017 7:44pm
      - stigie
        
        Don’t leave yourself short Nasska, you know there will be another prediction coming but suggest anything but sardines ole chap..?
        
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        October 5, 2017 8:03pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Freeze-dried tofu has infinite shelf-life. The little packages won’t take up as much room as cans of beans.
        Absolutely tasteless… but possibly better than starving.
        
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        October 5, 2017 8:18pm
      - stigie
        
        Yes but they don’t make you fart like a good feed of baked beans do Maggy..?
        
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        October 5, 2017 8:33pm
- Fletch
  
  One thing that is interesting, is that 4 days before the shooting dinner for two was ordered for the gunman’s room. The receipt shows that possibly someone else was with him at the time.
  
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  October 5, 2017 7:22pm
  - cha
    
    Because no one ever scarfed a burger and a bagel in one sitting.
    
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    October 5, 2017 7:36pm
Inandout

Why don’t the governments of the world just close down Facebook, it is just a cesspool for the deranged?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/04/las-vegas-shooting-youtube-hoax-conspiracy-theories
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October 5, 2017 6:42pm
- Gabby
  
  It’s useful for spreading bullshit and confusion downanout. Why would governments want it gone?
  
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  October 5, 2017 6:49pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Why don’t the governments of the world just close down Facebook, it is just a cesspool for the deranged?
  
  Let me fix that for you Inandout:
  
  Why don’t the governments of the world just close down the Guardian, it is just a cesspool for the deranged?
  
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  October 5, 2017 7:09pm
Fletch

WTF? I was in the Warehouse this afternoon, and there is a fiction book called To Kill the President.

Here’s what it said on the back cover –

The unthinkable has happened…

The United States has elected a volatile demagogue as president, backed by his ruthless chief strategist, Crawford ‘Mac’ McNamara.

When a war of words with the North Korean regime spirals out of control and the President comes perilously close to launching a nuclear attack, it’s clear someone has to act, or the world will be reduced to ashes.

Soon Maggie Costello, a seasoned Washington operator and stubbornly principled, discovers an inside plot to kill the President – and faces the ultimate moral dilemma. Should she save the President and leave the free world at the mercy of an increasingly crazed would-be tyrant – or commit treason against her Commander in Chief and risk plunging the country into a civil war?

This sounds like a liberal wish-fulfillment tale. They project a personality onto Trump in accordance with what they dream him to be like. They can’t kill him in real life so they have to write fictional stories about the possibility to make themselves feel better.
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October 5, 2017 7:25pm
- cha
  
  Perhaps the Warehouse should display trigger warnings on their bookstands, Fletch.
  
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  October 5, 2017 7:34pm
  - Fletch
    
    Mebbe, but I am strong enough to be able to read it without having a snowflake attack and having to withdraw to the toy aisle for solace.
    
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    October 5, 2017 7:42pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Just had to whine about it on Kiwblog, is all…
      
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      October 5, 2017 7:46pm
      - Fletch
        
        I did get triggered when I saw Hillary’s new book. Wanted to rip it up 😉
        
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        October 5, 2017 11:23pm
    - nasska
      
      Good on you Fletch. Keep it up & in no time you’ll be able to live life without your teddy bear & a magic man in the sky. 🙂
      
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      October 5, 2017 7:48pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s written by The Guardian Journalist – Jonathan Freedland.
  
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  October 5, 2017 8:40pm
- GoVege
  
  Jeez….talk about life imitating art!
  
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  October 5, 2017 9:34pm
Piniwi

Poor old Phol Goof is puzzled by a $42 million blow out in the ACC wage bill? He is well placed to know it is so easy when it is other peoples money.
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October 5, 2017 7:34pm
cha

The crazy is extra thick.

The look on prisonpaul's face as Alex Jones gets angry that prisonpaul is trying to reel in the crazy is hilarious pic.twitter.com/GWdOt92Fio— Spencer has manboobs (@classiclib3ral) October 4, 2017

with sound of silence pic.twitter.com/8yhj93ADDQ— Spencer has manboobs (@classiclib3ral) October 4, 2017

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/915707212277968896
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October 5, 2017 7:49pm
nasska

Judas: Still on for Friday?

Jesus: Friday?

Judas: Yeah, the Last Supper.

Jesus: The what?

Judas: Supper. Ummm…..yeah, normal supper with the guys.
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October 5, 2017 8:42pm
Maggy Wassilieff

So three ex-MPs on Kiwiblog today.
Are we any the wiser as to why they comment here?
– Just Joe Blogg citizen or still pushing a political agenda?
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October 5, 2017 9:51pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Who’s the third?
  – DG
  – Mr Mapp
  – ????
  
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  October 5, 2017 10:00pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Rodney Hide—oh woops,
    He was from NBR… Not a Guest Post.
    
    (still… motives?)
    
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    October 5, 2017 10:02pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Joe Blog
  
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  October 6, 2017 2:54am
Monique Watson

What a cunt.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/08/west-auckland-pastor-believes-jacinda-ardern-should-get-back-in-the-kitchen.html

I’m late to the table if this has already been posted.
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October 5, 2017 10:30pm
Left Right and Centre

You must’ve noticed the changed caps on all plastic milk containers. Now smaller – shorter.

They are shit.

Is that another ‘save the planet’ initiative ? Less plastic ?

As if milk containers weren’t flimsy enough before – **bastards**.
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October 6, 2017 2:57am
Manolo

Market warning:
https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21730019-ultra-loose-monetary-policy-coming-end-it-best-tread-carefully-asset-prices-are
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