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William of Ockham

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Professor Sir Peter Gluckman, FRS
Prime Minister’s Chief Science Advisor
info@pmcsa.org.nz

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/chief-science-adviser-attacks-academic-arrogance-policy
Chief science adviser attacks academic ‘arrogance’ on policy
Sir Peter Gluckman, who advises New Zealand’s prime minister, cautions scientists against overreach. September 29, 2017

Climate scientists are warning we face an existential threat that requires immediate action; politicians are ignoring the science; liar-deniers are brainwashing the public. We need more scientists speaking out and challenging the politicians.

You didn’t have much influence on your advisee, John Key. He did nothing in office and bought a 6 litre Bentley on retirement.

Perhaps it’s not “overreach” that is the problem, but “underreach”. But there is no need to rationalise your own failure by attacking other scientists. Only electroconvulsive therapy would shock true deniers; science has no effect on them whatsoever. See:
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/10/general_debate_14_october_2017.html
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October 15, 2017 8:01am
- Brito
  
  William, may I call you Bill? Bill your basic, and I use the term basic with all the sarcasm that I can muster, understanding of the issue exposes to the rest of the readers one thing. Ignorance breeds fear and therefore you need your Mum.
  
  Where in Gluckman’s speech did he infer that which you infer? Nowhere! His speech could be (and should be) turned back on your own argument.
  
  There are certain words that come to mind when I think of people like you, who read a little on line, but have never look under a microscope to see the truth. Let’s start with sanctimonious. Perhaps even self-serving. Fear-Monger! Pagan-earth goddess! Swivel earred and git.
  
  I think you should sign up and consign yourself to the mastabatorium. Wank away until you’re content and satiated and nobody else has to see it (or read it). Please, and I’m still being polite, leave the adults alone who have other things to discuss.
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:21am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Brito, William used to post here as Dennis Horne. He got banned so much for abuse he’s had to change W of O.
    He’s a pilot too. Real shit one looking at this extensive footage.
    They were probably lucky they hit the water as getting enough height to clear trees at the end of that beach might have been marginal.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=idMa4a6eA9M
    What a dick.
    Funny though.
    
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    October 15, 2017 8:27am
    - Brito
      
      What is worrying is that the dick believes this rubbish (and there are thousands more like him out there). Bring back the ducking stool and we’ll soon see if the witch floats. Bloody earth mothering idiot.
      
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      October 15, 2017 8:34am
    - G152
      
      I remember that flying bit.
      A bit of bravado gone wrong
      
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      October 15, 2017 8:39am
      - sooty
        
        I remember the crashing bit. Not so much the flying.
        
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        October 15, 2017 8:45am
      - nasska
        
        There wasn’t much flying going on! 🙂
        
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        October 15, 2017 8:50am
      - starboard
        
        Funny much..especially the copper falling over
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:39am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Bloody global warming. Raised the sea level too much thats why Dennis crashed
      
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      October 15, 2017 12:13pm
  - Brito
    
    Bill, did you down tick me? Branding iron up the botty for you my boy.
    
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    October 15, 2017 8:46am
  - RWood
    
    WO’s comments are right on the money – unlike your ignorant diatribe.
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:31am
    - Brito
      
      I have a PhD in diatribe. I was once employed as a witch sniffer and I’m getting a strong odour from you Ronny Wood – it’s either crack or small boy.
      
      Stop crying that the sky is falling. Read the facts and then comment. Have the ability to think for yourself and the capacity to comprehend the data which is in front of you.
      
      If you can’t do these small things then the Spanish Inquisition will track you down and it’s red hot poker time for you me ol’ mucker.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf_Y4MbUCLY
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:49am
      - RWood
        
        Senescent ignoramus. A good thing you and your ilk will have little influence on future global climate policy. You lost the argument long ago, and as a consequence you get ever shriller and more pathetic sounding. It’s fun winding you lot up, too.
        I’ll enjoy having a laugh with some climate people at an upcoming conference – you are deserving of nothing but total contempt.
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:21am
      - Fletch
        
        Googles “senescent”….
        
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        October 15, 2017 12:41pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      So RWood you reckon Electroconvulsive therapy should be used on climate deniers?
      Don’t you think re-education through labour might be more efficient?
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-education_through_labor
      
      or how about public humiliation for climate deniers?
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session
      
      We have some experts in this type of “re-education practice” here on KB…… must admit their attempts at publicly humiliating me haven’t been too successful yet…
      but they are triers… and I await my downfall.
      
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      October 15, 2017 11:07am
      - RWood
        
        I “reckoned” nothing of the sort, and nor did WO – you’re clearly too stupid to understand irony, let alone non-literal language. Farrar should be embarrassed to be giving shelter to such a dense cluster of dimwitted losers.
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:23am
    - Brito
      
      So you’re getting together with your brothers and sisters and gender fluid types for a wee ‘hoe-down’. I imagine the venue be quite small but you can fit quite a number of narrow minds in a small space. Make sure the lube you all use is vegetable based and that the almond milk you rub on each other is ethically sourced.
      
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      October 15, 2017 11:40am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      To RWood -“Farrar should be embarrassed to be giving shelter to such a dense cluster of dimwitted losers” Absolutely. He gives you, Griff and WoO shelter, amongst others.
      
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      October 15, 2017 3:22pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  So let me get this straight..
  Wof O, who many of us know under his true identity, is telling Professor Gluckman that climate deniers need ECT.
  
  I assume Professor Gluckman is well acquainted with the coercive use of ECT in Germany during the 1930s and 1940s.
  If not, here’s a wee summary:
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5206950/
  
  I trust Wof O’s recommendation will float like a lead balloon in Gluckman’s eyes.
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:15am
  - KevOB
    
    ECT for the UN IPCC too? The TAR states plainly that they cannot forecast climate–deniers.
    
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    October 15, 2017 12:19pm
  - Brito
    
    Is it possible Maggy that you could run an analysis of the sexual configuration of this particularly slimy lifeform?
    
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    October 15, 2017 12:20pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @Brito
      
      I can see you are new here.
      
      The sex life, gender affiliation, etc of commenters here on KB is of no concern to me, no business of mine, and has absolutely no bearing on whether humans are solely responsible for climate change.
      
      However, if you wish to pursue the archives of this matter here on KB… you will discover that I
      have been accused of:
      being menopausal,
      suffering from sexual jealousy,
      possessing saggy little tits,
      and being a piece of shit.
      
      I have no wish to be involved with such personal, degrading abuse of my fellow human beings.
      
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      October 15, 2017 5:33pm
      - Brito
        
        Yowieee!!! Gotcha!!
        
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        October 15, 2017 7:19pm
Hugh Pavletich

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Has Bill English really not got a clue about what Communist China is up to? … Amy Brooke …

If so, it’s a disgrace. The first duty of any government is to protect its citizens and to prioritise their interests. This certainly hasn’t been happening with regard to the gradual Communist Chinese infiltration of this country – very much assisted, apparently, by former Prime Minister John Key’s comfortable relationship with wealthy Chinese very willing to pour hundreds of thousands into the National Party’s coffers, and by no means reluctant to cooperate with Key’s push to remove the Union Jack from our flag. Pre-election, National’s fundraising campaign was strongly supported by deep-pocketed, wealthy Chinese interests. What is going on? … read more via hyperlinks below …

Read on at http://wp.me/pRVIl-eh or at http://www.100days.co.nz
https://www.facebook.com/100daystodemocracy?ref=br_tf

… REPORT … PRE – ELECTION …

… How could PM English and Deputy PM Bennett have been so dumb ?

… Perception is reality in politics …

National Party auctions off ice axe signed by Sir Edmund Hillary to raise funds for campaign … Nicole Lawton … Fairfax New Zealand

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96019247/national-party-auctions-off-ice-axe-signed-by-sir-edmund-hillary-to-raise-funds-for-campaign

… extract …

… But perhaps the greater attraction was the opportunity to meet the Prime Minister and his deputy, Paula Bennett, to pose for photos with them, to schmooze.

The Prime Minister put himself up for auction: one lucky (and wealthy) donor and 10 close friends won the a dinner date with the English, “at your favourite restaurant” after the election. (Cost of the dinner not included).

A Chinese community leader said such appearances would hold enormous prestige within the culture.

“The implied Chinese business culture is around guanxi, which means relationship. Whoever won that dinner would be highly regarded because they hold a special bond with New Zealand Prime Minister.”

They said if the dinner went well, the successful bidder might enjoy increased business opportunities in the future because of it. … read more via hyperlink above …
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October 15, 2017 8:06am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And the ‘who can get the most downticks’ contest starts between William and Hugh.
  They’re off!
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:10am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    And you get to the prime podium spot Capt’n because those who beat you failed the drugs test . . . . . .
    
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    October 15, 2017 8:12am
  - starboard
    
    I wonder who’s on top in their relationship.
    
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    October 15, 2017 8:13am
  - flipper
    
    An excellent observation Captain….
    The W of O sounds medieval, and so do the attitudes expressed or otherwise, so I am tempted to name him.
    But darn it, Hughie just screams out for the denunciation he receives. I find it strange that an apparently personable (as suggested by a TV clip) fellow, can be so persistently dumb.
    “Hughie the Link” adds not a jot to the discourse. But neither does Billie.
    
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    October 15, 2017 8:32am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    9.13 and it’s 37:35 to Hugh.
    
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    October 15, 2017 9:14am
    - thedavincimode
      
      That’s impressive given william ramjet got the jump on him (so to speak).
      
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      October 15, 2017 9:24am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Captain Mainwaring:
      
      Let me guess: you’re hoping for a three-way competition between William, Hugh and Penny? A Kiwiblog version of the Melbourne Cup, perhaps?
      
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      October 15, 2017 9:27am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      10.39 and Hugh’s still ahead 51:49. This will go down to the wire.
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:39am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Now 53:51 to Hugh (11.03am); just awaiting the counting of special downticks, and the return of the writs 😀
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:04am
- Happychappy
  
  You bitter twisted moron Hugh this is the third time in a week you have posted the same crap surely you the big noter could come up with more up dated stories than this.
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:12am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
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    Happychappy … As usual you are wrong.
    
    Amy Brookes article only came out last evening.
    
    The earlier Fairfax one below it was added for texture.
    
    I resisted the temptation to add a link on the sale of John Keys house to Chinese … because National supporters are enduring enough stress as it is at the moment !
    
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    October 15, 2017 8:30am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Hugh:
      
      I resisted the temptation to add a link on the sale of John Keys house to Chinese
      
      To quote Stigie when you raised this issue on 2 October:
      
      What fucking business is it of yours Hugh to what John Key does in and around the sale of his house and to whom !~
      
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      October 15, 2017 8:41am
    - KevOB
      
      Key was smart to sell now while the prices are still high.
      It’s only socialist envy commenting on Keys life.
      
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      October 15, 2017 8:44am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
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        Check out the GONE GONE GOING section at my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org to get a little more texture on Keys exiting skills.
        
        He has done massive damage to the National Party … although its going to take dim witted National Party members a while to learn that.
        
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        October 15, 2017 8:53am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Hugh:
        
        [Key] has done massive damage to the National Party
        
        The 2014 and 2017 election results don’t support your claim:
        
        Party votes: 1,131,501 (2014); 1,152,075 (2017) – increase
        % votes: 47.04 (2014); 44.4 (2917) – decrease
        Electorate seats: 41 (2014); 41 (2017) – unchanged
        List seats: 19 (2014); 15 (2017) – decrease
        Total seats: 60 (2014); 56 (2017) decrease
        
        The results show a fairly solid performance for a potential fourth-term government. If you want to know what “massive damage” looks like, Hugh, Andrew Little polled badly and was pushed aside.
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:14am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Check out the GONE GONE GOING section at my archival website …
        
        Link-whoring again Hugh? You really do need to seek professional help to deal with this obsessive hatred you have of Key and English. If you don’t, it will destroy you.
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:20am
    - Nookin
      
      Hugh, I do not really bother with your posts. I pass over them without up or downticking. There. Is no balance. You are a one track cut and paste record of selective material. You really add nothing to the debate other than wasted space.
      You have just added another reason. You are a petty and vindictive shite.
      
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      October 15, 2017 9:09am
      - Nookin
        
        Where has “edit” gone?
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:11am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
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        Nookin … Go to my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org … and check out in particular the following …
        
        1. Video … John Key Housing Reform 2007
        
        2. The 5 Important Graphs
        
        3. The GONE GONE GOING section
        
        … and there is heaps more.
        
        Sadly … Key has been a massive failure.
        
        The evidence is staring us in the face.
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:25am
      - Swifty
        
        Pavletich calling other people failures.
        
        Lol!
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:35am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        THE DEMISE OF CAPT ‘COSTA CONCORDIA’ KEY …
        
        This is when Key went down … 25 May 2016 …
        
        Opinion: John Key’s Govt has failed New Zealand on housing | Newshub
        
        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2016/05/opinion-john-keys-govt-has-failed-new-zealand-on-housing.html
        
        … and this bunch of bull with Mark Sainsbury soon after … blaming Helen Clark ! …
        
        John Key blames Helen Clark for housing crisis | Newshub
        
        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2016/08/john-key-blames-helen-clark-for-housing-crisis.html
        
        … then NZ Herald ‘Mood of the Boardroom’ telling Key to shape up or ship out … it wasn’t too difficult to make this prediction mid last year …
        
        Housing campaigner predicts spiralling house prices will be Key’s ‘Waterloo’ | Stuff.co.nz
        
        http://i.stuff.co.nz/business/83627043/Housing-campaigner-predicts-spiralling-house-prices-will-be-Keys-Waterloo
        
        … then we had to ‘endure’ this resignation rubbish 5 December …
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX2h3QNhtg0
        
        Key had no intention whatsoever of facing the music in 2017.
        
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        October 15, 2017 5:31pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        ‘Starting to smell a bit like 2007’ – ANZ economist warns next government about global market | 1 NEWS NOW | TVNZ
        
        https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/starting-smell-bit-like-2007-anz-economist-warns-next-government-global-market
        
        Q+A: ANZ Economist Sharon Zollner | Scoop News
        
        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1710/S00434/qa-anz-economist-sharon-zollner.htm
        
        LEARNING FROM THE IRISH 2007 HOUSING CRASH … THE SEVERE COSTS OF MULTIPLE STRETCH …
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/general_debate_20_july_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1971764
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/06/general_debate_8_june_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1946526
        
        Make a point of watching this excellent interview … where the antics of the twits from Merrill Lynch get mentioned as well …
        
        Prof Bill Black & others discuss the Irish financial system performance … Youtube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7zd5dRILBw
        
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        October 15, 2017 6:46pm
Swifty

Meet our new homegrown Nelson Mandela. Our new Ghandi.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11931815

Never in my life have I read such a disgracefully fawning piece of advocacy journalism such as this.

Everyone and everything is to blame except him.

Rangi Kemara is a bloody idiot with a misplaced victim mentality. He got what he deserved.
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October 15, 2017 8:08am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I read the headline and decided that I had wasted enough of my life on the article already, thanks for the opportunity anyhow . . .
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:16am
- starboard
  
  They will always live in the past. In their pea size brains, they are victims and hence will be left behind. FI or FO.
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:17am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I would prefer the latter, less trouble but either option always has a cost to everyone else in society.
    
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    October 15, 2017 8:20am
- Inandout
  
  How can they be angry when Finlayson bent over backwards to give that tribe everything they asked for? For former dirt scratchers to suddenly be given untold millions to play with, and rights to vast tracts of land, was a national disgrace that the taxpayer was forced to accept.
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:02am
  - Viking2
    
    Actually to be given back what was stolen from them. Bit I doubt you will even bother to educate yourself with the history. I can recommend a couple of good, well researched books.
    
    Oh and Te Urewrea is a great place to spend some time.
    
    His point about activists in NZ is completely accurate.
    
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    October 15, 2017 12:19pm
    - Inandout
      
      Crap, no pre settler Maori land was ever ‘owned’ to be stolen from, it was merely temporarily ‘occupied’. Every morning the tribe awoke alive it was a bonus, and those settlements not so fortunate would have been clubbed to death.
      
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      October 15, 2017 4:42pm
  - Viking2
    
    Clearly not a reader with comprehension skills. The article talked about prior to the raids, not the last few weeks or even the last couple of years.
    
    All a matter of time and context.
    
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    October 15, 2017 1:11pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Swifty:
  
  It’s hard to move past the first 2 sentences in the article:
  
  The story of how Te Rangikaiwhiria Kemara came to be running around Te Urewera with a gun started much earlier than the police investigation which put him in prison. It began when Hoturoa, the captain of the Tainui canoe, set out for these shores more than 800 years ago.
  
  Right…
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:56am
  - Swifty
    
    Makes you want to puke.
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:24am
  - Swifty
    
    The story of why I was caught speeding a few years ago began long before the cop wrote the ticket.
    
    It began 50,000 years ago when the tall, smart and skilled people came and bred us, the people who had lived in Europe for hundreds of thousands of years, out of existence.
    
    It began when the Romans invaded my Picktish lands put us to the sword.
    
    It began when my ancestors fled our lands as a result of the Scottish Clearances.
    
    My inattention to the speedo had nothing to do with it.
    
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    October 15, 2017 11:22am
    - Viking2
      
      It began when the Romans invaded my Picktish lands put us to the sword.
      
      It began when my ancestors fled our lands as a result of the Scottish Clearances.
      
      My inattention to the speedo had nothing to do with it.
      
      But it did. It created in you an arrogance that you display today.
      
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      October 15, 2017 12:30pm
      - Swifty
        
        WTF?
        
        Hahahaha.
        
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        October 15, 2017 12:33pm
    - sooty
      
      I hope that the cop was better than the clueless idiots you see on the goggle box. The imports are no better.
      
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      October 15, 2017 12:36pm
  - Viking2
    
    I’m puzzled. On the one hand you rant on here about the Journo’s and the MSM and what is often garbage fed for click bait and yet when some journo actually does some good journalism you dish up the same shite.
    If you took time to actually learn the history surrounding these events and spending time is spaces you could perhaps understand the events.
    
    But that would require effort and an open mind. something not often found around KB.
    I look forward to your continued learning.
    
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    October 15, 2017 12:29pm
- Dave Mann
  
  That article was the most disgusting piece of biased racial propaganda I have read in years. And it was so bloody l-o-n-g too. If this is what passes as ‘journalism’ in this country, then the NZ Herald’s demise can’t come soon enough IMHO.
  
  It’s also rather worrying to note that when for once our police took time off from harassing motorists and ignoring low level crime and actually did something useful to protect our citizens, they have been pilloried almost constantly for doing so for the last ten years.
  
  Thank you Swiftly for alerting us to this turgid piece of garbage. I wonder if it will retroactively sway the opinions of people who were too young at the time to have known what it was like to uncover a real terrorist organisation in our own back yard?
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:56am
  - kowtow
    
    Not just that article .
    
    Stuff did one and last night TV1 , the ‘nations leading team of journalists’ did another .”Infamous” a favoured word now in any such propaganda.
    
    All romanticisng terror and pushing the Maori as victim theme.
    
    The media in this country are engaging a war on truth , pushing alt facts and fake news.
    
    I have a funny feeling that they would take a very different , unromantic ,tack if the idiots running round in the bush were crew cut ,middle aged white guys concerned about immigration from the Middle East for example.
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:16am
  - Viking2
    
    Here is something for you to ponder on.
    Those raids were signed of by Cullen. Now Cullen didn’t do anything without Helen’s say so.
    That alone should make you suspicious.
    
    The name of the leader of the party of 60 that surrounded Rua’s Round house and murdered two of his sons was, well you guessed it, Cullen. An action that was urged on by the likes of Aparna Ngata .
    Cullen was the same man who was responsible for the shooting of the miners during the Waihi goldminers strike.
    
    And to make the conspiracy worse, Of course, Bains mother’s name was Cullen.
    
    Not a propitious name in NZ.
    
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    October 15, 2017 1:18pm
- fernglas
  
  “It was a free space. It was a welcome relief from the onerous toll of activism. It had quite a serious, bush-hardening, military-style component.
  
  “But mainly a space to freely discuss ideas within the confines of wananga.”
  
  I have yet to hear the place that Molotov cocktails (which they were convicted of possessing) have to play in Tikanga Maori or the military. No-one seems to have asked them that fairly obvious question.
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:09am
- Luke Piewalker
  
  Lost me at “David Fisher”
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:22am
- Huevon
  
  These terrorists should be rotting in prison.
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:50am
  - sooty
    
    How come we did not export the honkey in the group?
    
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    October 15, 2017 12:38pm
- Fletch
  
  I think we all owe the cops a debt of thanks for busting these a-holes. WHo knows what they are doing out there now.
  
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  October 15, 2017 12:49pm
  - Viking2
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rua_Kenana_Hepetipa
    
    http://www.ngaituhoe.com/Folders/TipunaProfiles.html
    
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    October 15, 2017 1:23pm
  - Paulus
    
    Am sure they are preparing to come back for more as the elite have already squandered what the tribe received with the lessers still not seeing a thing.
    Tama Iti wants it all shut down I read today – wonder why – most unlike all other settlements – something fishy ?
    
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    October 15, 2017 1:37pm
Happychappy

Has Jacinda played Winstons hand with her wink to the public when talking about the robust way NZ First have gone about when having talks with other Parties in their proceedings to form the next Government. You can be sure either way Winston will not be happy if this has stolen some of his thunder.
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October 15, 2017 8:08am
- CHFR1
  
  I am praying he goes with Labour and runs true to form. Winston can only operate as an opposition politician, as can the Greens. It is going to be fun watching them try to govern, 3 years (if they last that long) of not being able to do anything but anger their supporters is going to be great. 3 years in opposition to resharpen National will be good as well, time to trim a little more dead wood.
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:15am
  - peterwn
    
    Trouble here is, different people have different ideas on who is ‘dead wood’. Similarly with policy. It is very difficult for a party to be all things to all people, so some voters vote NZ First (for example) to get the policy outcomes they want (eg cut immigration) only to end up with a coalition they did not want.
    
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    October 15, 2017 8:22am
    - Happychappy
      
      peterwn dead right but then they blame others or MMP for their own bad decisions.
      
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      October 15, 2017 8:56am
    - Paulus
      
      Will be called called “Party’s from Hell” – imagine the media loving it with Cinderella being like Boudicca, assisted by Helen C.
      Winston will not do it it will make him a laughing stock.
      
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      October 15, 2017 2:03pm
  - VicParking
    
    Deep down I agree with you but I fear for the NZ economy during that time. Wages will rise (min wage) but costs and therefore prices will increase greater. NZ’s debt will rise again as the Government throws money at projects that have no return to the ecomony, tax take will drop and we in the provinces will be taxed to pay for Comrade Goffs wasteful council. Fear the Ghidorah you morals of the shire.
    
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    October 15, 2017 8:34am
    - CHFR1
      
      As do I but I know that it will be “time for the other guys to have a turn” soon. I would rather it is now when they are a rabble led by an inexperienced leader who wants to be liked than when they have a more formidable leader who will make decisions that will harm the country.
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:00am
    - Viking2
      
      So no change then.
      Wages rising, like every year by decree.
      Costs increasing, by decree, RMA, H & S, Petrol taxes you know the drill.
      8o billon in debt, was 30 billion.
      ain’t goffs council it belongs to the people of Auckland so if they want change then they need to do the changing. And they won’t.
      So as I said nothing going to change from the last few years.
      OH well.
      
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      October 15, 2017 12:35pm
      - Paulus
        
        In the circumstances I hope that my term investment rates will go up also.
        Previous Labour experiences suggests that it will be a good rise, quite quickly as the banks will need to get more money in for their solvency margins.
        
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        October 15, 2017 2:06pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  Happychappy … That is eyewash. Indeed she was very measured in what she said to Labour Party people.
  
  Both Nationals Paula Bennett and Labours Kelvin Davis were very responsible a couple of days ago on Newshub together as well.
  
  The coalition talks have been processed responsibly and expeditiously.
  
  Its a great credit to all involved.
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:21am
  - Happychappy
    
    Why can’t you post like this all the time Hugh and you would get a descent result. Your distaste for John Key, Bill English and National is fine but to post about every day shows what s vindictive old prick you are.
    
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    October 15, 2017 9:02am
- calendar girl
  
  Happychappy, whether National is in Government or in Opposition for the coming term, I hope that it shows some fortitude and promotes a few simple rules (for ultimate legislation, whenever it has the numbers) to regulate the formation of a Government post each MMP Election: Examples:
  
  1. The Party with the highest number of confirmed seats after a General Election has a period of five clear working days following the final writ to form a coalition that the Governor-General is satisfied can be sworn in as the NZ Government.
  
  2. Failing that, the second-highest-polling Party has the next five clear working days to form such a coalition to the satisfaction of the Governor-General.
  
  3. If no Government coalition is ready to be sworn in after two such negotiation time-frames, the Governor-General is required to declare invalid the previously-conducted General Election and to require a fresh General Election to be held on the actual date 8 weeks after the polling day that produced the post-Election stalemate.
  
  4. Repeat the process if necessary.
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:24am
oldpark

If we are to believe body language, in just over 48 hours “Commie Chic” Comrade Ardern will become NZs Prime Minister by “default” Commie Chic Comrade Ardern has been dropping hints and giving easily read signs ,that she is the chosen one.
Her vision to turn NZ into a Socialist Republic will be realised. Just imagine she was high in her praise for Venezuela and Cuba. She just loves the image of a dead Terrorist called Che Guevara.
Now with the help of the man who never was trustworthy in politics Winston Peters ,he has once more proven that. Maybe in his world that National 56 Seats were not as good as Labours 46 Seats,and that was the wishes of NZs voters. Peters has gone the other way ,in his mind 46 Seats beats 56 Seats.
Even worse for both Labour and NZ First they have also proven that crime does pay. After all they need the benefit fraud supporters and corrupt Green Party to satisfy their bogus claim that between them Lie-bour/NZFirst parties have more seats collectively than National. Check it out. Both partners in slime hate the Greens ,but not at any price.
Of course lets hope all this would be, could be for the nation of NZ is just hypothetical. We will all know in 48 HOURS.
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October 15, 2017 8:23am
- JibberJabber
  
  Good, National needs to dodge this bullet for the sake of their credibility, going forward. ?
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:34am
- wiseowl
  
  ‘there’s none so blind……..’
  So Ironic that the National cheerleaders that attach the commie to the Cindy cannot see that the commie infiltration is already well advanced through their own party back door.
  It has been wide open for a while now and the sooner party supporters start asking questions of their leadership the better.
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:49am
  - Happychappy
    
    A bit like you wiseowl with your pronunciation of the word Maori and your continually slagging off of the Maori Party so that’s funny that you are allowed your say but the National cheerleaders aren’t.
    
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    October 15, 2017 9:11am
- Jack5
  
  I don’t think National can push the “Commie Chic” angle too far when it has brought “Dr” Dian Jang into Parliament as a list MP. He was formerly employed by the electronic spy agency of the People’s Republic of China, which is still a communist state, and questions have been asked about the accuracy of his immigration application when he came to NZ.
  
  The Beijing Government is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. As the CIA World Factbook notes, eight nominally independent small parties ultimately controlled by the Chinese Communist Party.
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:09am
  - srylands
    
    Does Dr Jang propose damaging public policy for New Zealand? Is there any evidence that he has ever advocated policies that would damage New Zealand? Even if he did so propose, is he in any position to achieve them?
    
    You really can’t see the difference?
    
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    October 15, 2017 9:29am
    - Jack5
      
      When NZ is one of the five members who make up the core Western electronic intelligence network Five Eyes, can’t you see the danger of National bringing into the national legislature a former employee (an instructor) of the Chinese national spy agency?
      
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      October 15, 2017 9:32am
      - flipper
        
        Info from/ to Echilon is confined to a select few, excluding Yang Ph.D and many others.
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:51am
      - srylands
        
        “When NZ is one of the five members who make up the core Western electronic intelligence network Five Eyes,…..”
        
        Fine. That is why we have an intelligence service. If this guy REALLY is a threat to our national security, backed up by evidence, then I’ll cheer him being kicked to the curb.
        
        Otherwise I will assume that he is simply being slandered by dopey opposition politicians during election season.
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:57am
      - mikenmild
        
        flipper seems to think that if Jian Yang were to become, say, Chairman of the Foerign Affairs and Defence Committee, or even Minister of Defence, he would be magically excluded from sensitive information provided by our allies.
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:59am
      - kowtow
        
        ‘flipper seems to think that if Jian Yang were to become, say, Chairman of the Foerign Affairs and Defence Committee, or even Minister of Defence, he would be magically excluded from sensitive information provided by our allies.’
        
        That’s exactly what would happen.
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:46am
    - mikenmild
      
      Your statement implies that Jian Yang could only be a threat if he were openly advocating for the banning of Falun Dafa or the Chinese annexation of Taiwan, etc.
      An agent of influence like Jian Yang does not seek attention through such overt activities. He is steadily pushing the Chinese party line by promoting ostensibly harmless cooperation between China and New Zealand, glossing over the fundamental conflicts between our political systems and working to exert the communist influence over New Zealand’s Chinese community.
      
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      October 15, 2017 9:41am
      - srylands
        
        “Your statement implies that Jian Yang could only be a threat if he were openly advocating for the banning of Falun Dafa or the Chinese annexation of Taiwan, etc.”
        
        No I wasn’t thinking of that at all. I was thinking he could only be a threat if he was proposing a 40% marginal tax rate, railways to Wellington Airport and a ‘smart economy’.
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:50am
      - srylands
        
        “exert the communist influence over New Zealand’s Chinese community.”
        
        Yeah well good luck to him. All the ones I meet work hard, usually running their own businesses.
        
        Bring on more Chinese influence and immigrants.
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:53am
      - mikenmild
        
        There you go – now implying that his allegiance to a foeriegn power could only be a problem if he were advocating economic policies with which you personally disagree.
        The problem is this: even if he were supporting every policy which I think is in the country’s best interests, I would still be opposed to such a man being a member of our government.
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:53am
      - kowtow
        
        Both Notional and Labour pushed ‘ostensibly harmless cooperation between China and New Zealand, glossing over the fundamental conflicts between our political systems’ in order to achieve that first among nations recognising Communist China as a free trade economy ( bwahahahahaa).
        
        If the tribal Notionalistas here want a very sensible view on our friends the Reds Under the Bed don’t take my word for it , have a read of Stephen Franks. They might learn something.
        
        http://www.stephenfranks.co.nz/q-e-d-on-spies-from-the-minister-responsible-for-our-security-intelligence-sevices/
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:00am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        REDS!
        UNDER
        THE
        BEDS!
        
        COMMIES!
        TAXING YA HARD EARNED!
        JACINDA ARDERN!
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:03am
      - mikenmild
        
        It’s not like he’s a red under the bed – more like a red lying on the bed.
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:12am
    - doggone7
      
      We know he’s not a spy because of the signs, or lack of them.
      
      If he were a spy he would wear a sign around his neck telling us of the fact. On any social occasion the would be telling people what he was up to and his intentions. He would phone SpyChina HQ publicly and loudly report. He would have the calls on speaker phone so bystanders could listen in.
      
      Isn’t that how spies work?
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:16am
      - mikenmild
        
        He would surely be involved in numerous shoot-outs, car chases and be seen with all the most beautiful women too.
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:22am
- Digmen1
  
  Read the NZF website.
  
  They do not like free money for beneficiaries. Work for the dole.
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:16am
  - KevOB
    
    Not possible and expect it to get worse.
    
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    October 15, 2017 12:26pm
- Paulus
  
  Cinderella
  Che Guevara ‘s father was an Irishman (called Lynch) – the problem in Ireland is that they want to put him on a stamp with the well known picture of Che (painted by his father).
  A few days ago it was the 50th anniversary of Che’s (Ernesto) death.
  He was shot.
  
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  October 15, 2017 2:12pm
tom hunter

It’s gone beyond bias, General Kelly dealt with one example:

Q What is his tweet about then?

GENERAL KELLY: Which tweet?

Q The tweet where he says that we can’t be in Puerto Rico forever.

But that’s not what Trump said. Here’s the actual text:

We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!

The conversion of that Tweet was a lie, which is why the following comment sums up our “news” media pretty well:

This is the crux of a conversation I repeatedly have with liberal showbiz friends, most of whom are in meltdown mode every day. They will-very sincerely I might add-ask me why I’m not panicking. My answer: I don’t believe most of what is reported in the “news.”

If, like my liberal friends, one takes most reporting about this administration at face value, the ongoing panic is understandable. It isn’t reality-based, but it’s understandable. I monitor numerous MSM feeds on Twitter every day. The phrase “World War 3” pops up every day. It’s all shrill wailing about the apocalypse being nigh BECAUSE TRUMP RUSSIA NUKES NOKO and stuff. It’s a wonder the poor dears aren’t all getting treated for ulcers.

Kelly was being generous in using the word “misreported.” Most of it falls under the “outright lies” category. It’s deliberate, and it is designed to keep the fears of the headlines-only reading public at a fever pitch. When contrasted with the daily love letters the MSM penned to Obama for eight years it all seems even more frightening.
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- mikenmild
  
  Sorry – you don’t think ‘we can’t be in Puerto Rico forever’ is an accurate summary of the threat to remove disaster assistance?
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:43am
  - softail 1450
    
    NO. and if you read it without your obsessive trump hating bias you will see that every word makes sense you fool.
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:44am
    - itstricky
      
      It’s a pretty accurate representation of exactly what he tweeted. To me the questions arising are “1. when?” and “2.are they ready?” to which the answers would seem to be:
      
      1. Not anytime soon. So why tweet the warning? And why rush Mr Kelly up there to say “no, no, no we’re not withdrawing”. Why have FEMA tweeted “we’re not leaving”. Left hand – meet right hand.
      
      2. No. Power issues, food issues, water issues.
      
      Tom’s post from “hotair” seems to be a quadruple backflip analysis of one little sentence.
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:56am
- kowtow
  
  Last night TV1 “news” managed to link Trump into an item on Holocaust denial.
  
  The “nations leading team of journalists” bringing us fake news every night.
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:50am
  - softail 1450
    
    K T jack lame and Rebecca wrong on morning tv1 have blamed trump for everything bad happening on the planet ,they are obsessed with trying to cut him down, it’s puke enducing actually.
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:40am
- G152
  
  Fake media strikes again.
  Another lie
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:00am
- Victor Omega
  
  How many people know that POTUS and FLOTUS gave $1,000,000 of their own money to hurricane relief efforts?
  
  Not many I imagine. Doesn’t fit the narrative.
  
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  October 15, 2017 12:46pm
tom hunter

Chuckle – Jabba-Weinstein

(**WARNING: mind bleach may be required – at least for those who liked Carrie Fischer in her famous bikini)
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October 15, 2017 8:43am
stigie

Saw this on Stuff comments and thought it sums up our fucked up MMP system !~

GG: “National, can you form a government?”
BE: “Sorry, we don’t have guaranteed Confidence and Supply.”
GG: “Labour, how about you?”
JA: “Sorry, we don’t have guaranteed Confidence and Supply, even with our Green friends.”
GG: “NZ First, can you form a government?”
WP: “Yes we can, we will just take a few days to decide our junior coalition partner.”
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October 15, 2017 8:49am
sooty

Went to WO for a read. KGB posted about a colilition of NZF and Labour with a side salad of Greens. That sums it up nicely. No baubles for you greens! Thank you Me Tu!
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October 15, 2017 8:57am
Nukuleka

RNZ ‘news’ carrying an anti-police, anti-establishment propaganda piece on the 10th anniversary of the Te Urewera raids. As always, RNZ prefers to couch its report in wholly biased, subjective terms that distort facts and reality.

Time to sell off RNZ, Mr Peters. Pity you didn’t make it another of your ‘bottom lines’.
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October 15, 2017 9:10am
- Jack5
  
  Nukuleka, Radio NZ began pushing Maori viewpoints, and greatly upped its use of Maori language after an agreement reached with Maori radio stations (I think there are 21 tribal stations).
  
  The tribes’ stations already received State funding assistance.
  
  Leading up to the agreement, Willie Jackson, chairman of the tribal networks’ group, had criticised Radio NZ for the low amount of “Maori content”.
  
  Jackson led Labour’s demolition of the Maori Party in the recent General Election.
  
  It’s a bit like Maori TV: you have the Maori stations, and then you have the increasing Maori content on the non-Maori stations.
  
  Notes:
  
  1. The memorandum between Radio NZ and the tribal stations:
  
  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1608/S01050/memorandum-of-understanding-between-rnz-and-maori-network.htm
  
  2. A list of tribal radio stations:
  http://www.irirangi.net/iwi-stations.aspx
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:29am
  - itstricky
    
    It’s pretty clear that your irrational fear of macrons is actually rooted in an irrational fear of Maori, in general.
    
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    October 15, 2017 9:41am
    - VicParking
      
      Be afraid…. when 15% of the population take control of the other 85% . Just look at Africa, the middle east and South America.
      
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      October 15, 2017 9:58am
      - mikenmild
        
        Who are these 15% – the employers and landlords?
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:00am
      - Dave Mann
        
        Also be afraid when 9% (of voters) take control of the 91% (of voters who didn’t vote for NZ First)….
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:21am
      - starboard
        
        I don’t like maori, never have, never will.
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:35am
    - Jack5
      
      Good morning Ītstrīckȳ:
      
      I propose that you and I jointly found a group seeking the establishment of a fourth official language for NZ.
      
      We have English as the unofficial official language – certainly the main language. Then we have sign language. Third we have Te Reo, or in English, “Maori”.
      
      The fourth language will be Pidgin, or if you can persuade me, Pidgin Kiwi.
      
      Pidgin will cater for those who wish to use Maori macrons and terms in what is otherwise English. This will allow the ageing print media, such as Fairfucked NZ, to use macrons as used in the Maori language, but still otherwise remain overwhelming in English so that 98 per cent of their remaining readers can understand the products.
      
      It will also appeal to institutions that have been taken over by trendies such as multiculturists, or indeed institutions that have been taken over or by tribalists, or instituions that have been captivated by NZ Polynesian culture.
      
      Our organisation will also push for the new name of New Zealand to be in Pidgin, and always in Pidgin, to show the world our dedication to multiculturism and political correctness.
      
      The name will be Āōtēārōā
      
      We will ensure that there is a an initial $1 billion fund to ensure that world people who have English as their main language, all 1.5 or so billion of them, use and understand our macrons. The fund will also devise ways of macrons being used in the Slavic and Arabic languages, Hebrew, and written Chinese and Japanese.
      
      I suggest, Ītstrīckȳ, that the name for our organisation be (in Pidgin and only in Pidgin): the Mācrōnīā Institute of Āōtēārōā.
      
      Regards,
      Jāck Fīvē
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:09am
      - Jack5
        
        Perhaps, Ītstrīckȳ, your internet-savvy friend can figure out how Āōtēārōā will rank alphabetically in the list of world nations.
        
        Will it be last, or will it be first?
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:13am
      - mikenmild
        
        Neither: It would be seventh, at best, after Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, and Antigua and Barbuda.
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:20am
      - itstricky
        
        That’s it? A poor piss take? At least starboard is honest with himself.
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:01am
      - holysheet
        
        Easily fixed. Put as many A’s in it as necessary to be the first.
        AAAAAteroa
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:38am
    - kowtow
      
      I never thought I’d be jealous of Johnny Frenchman , you see , the thing is , in time he’ll be able to rid himself of his Macron , but we here in Aotearoa , formerly New Zealand ,will be stuck with ours, alas for a very long time.
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:32am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’m sure the use of macrons in Maori has more to do with the availability of computers than anything else.
      
      Macrons were definitely not in favour in hard-type days.
      
      There was no call to apply them back when the Maori Bible was revised in 1952.
      https://biblesociety.org.nz/discover-the-bible/the-bible-in-maori/
      Somehow folks coped.
      https://www.bible.com/bible/94/JHN.1.maor
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:41am
      - holysheet
        
        Wait for the Te tritty claim that macrons are a taounga, and whitey must pay to use them in aaaaaoteroa.
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:41am
      - Brito
        
        Surely the desire to manipulate the past is an academic driver. There are only so many things you can write a thesis or a paper (for publishing) about. When the pickings get thin the academics will allow their students to investigate the past as they see it through their new moral lenses. The mist in these multi-dimensional prisms mean that if it’s published it must be true. And anyway “what would you know cracker”…(943.
        Jackson, W. (2017). Lessons from my life while sitting on Hone’s knee. Retrieved September 21, 2017, from http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_maori/lies/perpetuated_and_magnified/MAORIPARTYMANIFESTO_BBCt30Jun15.aspx
        
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        October 15, 2017 1:03pm
  - softail 1450
    
    jack5, willie Jackson is the festering sore that will bring down any coalition of the left, he is a destructive force that has imploded every party he has been involved in. willie is a staunch pusher of the importance of whakapapa yet whenever he mentions his ,the fact that he’s half pakeha is never listed in his heritage.
    “crackers”is his term for pakeha new Zealanders,or “you people”.
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:32am
    - starboard
      
      I don’t like willie jackson, never have, never will.
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:43am
      - mikenmild
        
        Yes, we noticed. He’s a Maori and you have been quite clear that you don’t like Maori.
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:32am
      - starboard
        
        shut your pie hole
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:37am
      - holysheet
        
        Starboard must like at least half of willy. It’s just tough deciding which half.
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:43am
  - KevOB
    
    Such a memo perhaps should have the prior consideration of Parliament. Maori do not have superior rights. They cannot even agree among themselves unless paid.
    
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    October 15, 2017 12:30pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Interviewed last night on TV1 news on the Te Urewera “terror” raids was a young boy, all of 16, who said “my life has gone backwards since then”.
  
  How to set yourself up for being a victim for the rest of your life!
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:04am
cmm

The whirlwind around Harvey Weinstein gives some interesting views into the way people play for power.

All the actors and actresses, politicians and such helped supress any negative opinions about him while he was still valuable to them. As soon as he fell from grace and was no longer of value to them they put in the boot.

People like Paltrow could have raised a fuss years ago and protected many up and comers from him, but they chose to keep quiet because he was useful to them. Now they’re all falling over themselves to kick him in the balls.

The Obamas and the Clintons loved him and used him for fundraising etc. The Obamas even sent their daughter to intern with him. I wonder if they’ll “disavow” like they demand others do?
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October 15, 2017 9:13am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Mr and Mr Obama have piled in on top of Weinstein now.
  
  I guess they delayed to make sure that he wasn’t going to be able to make any more donations to them before kicking their massive funder in the guts.
  
  And for all the talk of the Democrats returning all the millions of dirty sexual abuser Weinstein money they’ve accepted off him – only $30k has been donated to charity so far. Looks like they aren’t going to put their money where their mouths are!
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:37am
  - softail 1450
    
    DP I’m confident it wouldn’t be the first time Barry and Michelle Obama have “piled in on top of Weinstein”….
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:18am
- Victor Omega
  
  It’s a distraction. Weinstein has been sacrificed by the Hollywood and Democrat elite so you don’t look too closely at Vegas.
  
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  October 15, 2017 12:51pm
  - Victor Omega
    
    And to prove they’ve known about it for a very long time, here’s a video of Cortney Love warning girls to stay away from Harvey Weinstein….. in 2005.
    
    http://www.dailywire.com/news/22263/watch-courtney-love-tells-girls-stay-away-harvey-frank-camp
    
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    October 15, 2017 12:53pm
Jack5

I guess this will be coming to NZ: British Government orders civil servants to avoid calling taxpayers ‘he’ and ‘she’ or assuming a ‘Mr’ is male – so transgender people are not offended

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4978146/British-civil-servants-told-stop-using-she.html
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October 15, 2017 9:19am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Transgenderism is one of the sickest things that the people who control the MSM and shape public discourse have ever foisted on us. It serves many globalist agendas and to shut up discussion, and thereby revealing what bollocks this is and the sinister agendas, fear of “hate” is manufactured to enforce this. The agendas that transgenderism serve are the following but this is not an exhaustive list.
  
  – To feminise boys/men so they are more docile and less likely to breed.
  – To degrade and insult the West and its people by inverting reality by making freaks the epitiome of suffering and worthy of our time
  – The transhuman agenda in which our bodies will be transferred gradually and augmented with technology. By breaking down gender identity we become a clean slate to work upon
  – To destroy religion and Christianity in particular which have clear teachings on the role of a man and a woman in society. This agenda is about destroying that link with religion so they can be portrayed as ‘bigots’ and therefore obsolete. Its about the triumph of Darwinistic nihilism over religious belief that we are more than just flesh and bones
  – The subversion of the natural order of men and women as the globalist filth that rule us see themselves as gods and want to create man, well humans rather, in their image.
  
  Its a very sinister and dark agenda and must be resisted with everything we have.
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:36am
  - kowtow
    
    Too late .
    
    This under a so called Tory administration.
    
    ‘Government orders civil servants to avoid calling taxpayers ‘he’ and ‘she’ or assuming a ‘Mr’ is male so transgender people are not offended’
    
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4978146/British-civil-servants-told-stop-using-she.html
    
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    October 15, 2017 9:46am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    First they came for the pronouns!
    
    Indeed it’s a slippery slope. I was saddened when watching the great Prof Petersen (discussing the outrageous moves in Canada that – use of gender pronouns should be legislated) when I realised that the mentally ill gender pronounazi he was debating was an ex-pat Kiwi at U of Toronto.
    
    Canucks won’t hear much of NZ and for them to associate gender pronounazism with our great country is a real shame.
    
    I tried to feel sorry for this mixed up woman, then I looked at her Twitter feed and she is permanently outraged at the whole world for one thing or another all the time! Prof A W Peet goes by the Twitter handle BinarySmasher@kiwinerd (from which one can only assume her world view is that heterosexuals need to be smashed – that’s constructive).
    
    Even more embarrassingly, it seems that she isn’t even very good at her job given by the mostly awful reviews from her students particularly about her self-involvement (what a surprise) and obnoxiousness.
    
    What an advertisement for our lovely South Pacific culture her in NZ.
    
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    October 15, 2017 9:51am
Inandout

Did Cinders ‘wink’ in her coalition talks video because she and Winston shared a little solo time together? She may have recounted her time at uni when she was reportedly very popular with the guys.
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October 15, 2017 9:19am
- itstricky
  
  KEEPING STOCK!
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:28am
  - stigie
    
    “Nurse” !!
    
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    October 15, 2017 9:34am
- RF
  
  Just imagine if she becomes PM. She will have so much baggage that if it was loaded on railway carriages it would stretch from Wellington to Auckland.
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:35am
  - sam green
    
    Or if not you can be in charge of making shit up.
    
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    October 15, 2017 12:17pm
    - starboard
      
      stooooooooooooooooooopid boy green sam
      
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      October 15, 2017 1:38pm
    - Jack5
      
      When it comes to shit stirring, Sam Green, you know a thing or two.
      
      I apologise to the man with the same name as yours who runs a worthwhile environmental organisation set on cleaning up the coast. I thought you were him. Stupid mistake.
      
      But Sam Green, kiwifruit orchardist, you stirred a lot of shit for Zespri, didn’t you?
      
      Now tell us again you don’t use cheap Third World labour on your orchard, that you saved Zespri from implosion, and that you don’t hire backpackers as pickers based solely on their legs and boobs.
      
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      October 15, 2017 1:42pm
      - sam green
        
        I see you’re on the “making shit up” team too Jack5.
        
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        October 15, 2017 3:29pm
      - Jack5
        
        Good Afternoon Mr Grēēn, wīng mān of Ītstrīckȳ:
        
        Mȳ nāmē is Sām, Sām Ī ām …
        
        Sām’s Kīwīfrūīt – is that the name of your orchard, Sām?
        
        You have mentioned your kiwifruit in posts from time to time. You sound to be an environmentally friendly orchardist, as this comment from one of your posts earlier this year shows…
        
        We don’t use pesticides by the way and we love our bees!
        
        Good bloke, Sām, but think of macrons as a blight.
        
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        October 15, 2017 5:11pm
      - sam green
        
        You are a bit stalky Jack5 – perhaps you need a hobby.
        
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        October 15, 2017 5:24pm
      - sam green
        
        Oh sorry – I didn’t realise – stalking is your hobby.
        
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        October 15, 2017 5:55pm
      - Jack5
        
        How did you put it the other day, Sām? Was it …
        
        You’re such a sook.
        
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        October 15, 2017 7:52pm
      - sam green
        
        Still with the stalking ….. sad man.
        
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        October 15, 2017 7:55pm
- holysheet
  
  Watch out Cindy, Winston might turn out to be your Weinstein moment. The kind that stuffs you from behind when you are not looking.
  
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  October 15, 2017 11:47am
EAD_TWO

This weekend’s edition of the Jewish owned New York Times has this article by Jewish author Sasha Polakow-Suransky called White Nationalism Is Destroying the West

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/opinion/sunday/white-nationalism-threat-islam-america.html

Imagine the uproar if somebody wrote an article explaining how ““Jewish supremacism is destroying the West. One would probably be locked up in prison.

And what does Polakow-Suransky think about Israel adopting a "Jews only" immigration policy for fear that letting in Blacks will "threaten the identity" of the Jewish State?

Are goyim nations not allowed similar policies and is it only our lands that must become "multikulti"?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/may/20/israel-netanyahu-african-immigrants-jewish
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October 15, 2017 9:29am
- itstricky
  
  How’s about, instead of positing “what if”s, you just tell us why Sasha has it wrong?
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:36am
Inandout

Cindy the beautiful.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11933069
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October 15, 2017 9:37am
- itstricky
  
  You lefties, always with the green eyed monster.
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:43am
  - mikenmild
    
    Another case for Keeping Stock…
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:01am
    - Jack5
      
      Don’t suppose Ītstrīckȳ and Milky any time soon, will seize on the similar sound of a key name, and then adapt an old drinking song so they can perform it at Leftist soirees (Yes, I know Ītstrīckȳ, it’s soirée but to hell with the foreign diacritical marks):
      
      My sister Belinda
      She pissed out the window
      All over my favourite sombrero
      I said, “You fat twat, you pissed on my hat!”
      She said, “I don’t fucking well care-o.”
      Aye aye aye aye
      Me and my soggy sombrero …
      
      It gets worse.
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:47am
    - sam green
      
      Jack5’s on the sauce today it seems.
      
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      October 15, 2017 3:32pm
      - Jack5
        
        C’mon, that’s Griff’s line.
        
        To a pothead, guys who don’t smoke dope must be pissheads.
        
        You’re not growing a by-product among your kiwifruit are you, Sam?
        
        With the hysteria raging now internationally about Leftist Hollywood, I hope you’re int he clear, Sam. No “casting couch” for backpacking kiwfruit pickers!
        
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        October 15, 2017 5:13pm
      - sam green
        
        Fantasy Land – the happiest kingdom of them all.
        
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        October 15, 2017 5:36pm
brett68

Crystal ball gazing

The new government of Labour/NZ First/Greens have agreed to tell China that they no longer have preferred country status and can no longer buy NZ property without serious vetting.

China highly offended says, I don’t think so, Labour/NZ First/Greens say that’s disappointing we’re not budging, China FTA is now dead.

Labour happy because they’ve followed through on their promise to ban foreign ownership

NZ First happy because Peters is an old nationalistic zenophope who believe in fortress NZ.

Greens happy because it will decimate the dairy industry.

Everyone else miserable as the economy collapses
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October 15, 2017 9:39am
- brett68
  
  xenophobe
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:54am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Labour/NZ First/Greens know this but they will still go ahead to have power at any cost. Then there’s all the new Taxes to subsidise the failing economy!
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:10am
  - brett68
    
    We’ll have three crusaders running the country, NZ is going to be turned upside down.
    
    Peters wants his legacy to be turning the clock back 40 years and saving NZ from the evils of the free market which is in line with what Labour wants.
    
    That also fit’s into the Greens philosophy of isolation, low carbon footprint and self-sufficiency.
    
    NZ once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:41am
fluffykiwi

I am hoping there is a wee revolution within the NZ First Party. Perhaps they are flexing their muscle now that they are elected. Maybe Winnie does not have the power that he once had, given that he is getting older and might not be around for the next election. Perhaps they are jockeying for position.
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October 15, 2017 9:41am
- PhilBest
  
  “jockeying”…. ha ha ha
  
  Given Winnie’s famous links with the racing industry
  
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  October 15, 2017 9:54am
- marcw
  
  I’m picking that the NZF caucus members can see they will get more baubles from Labour/Greens coalition, so more self importance. They want to go with the high risk but bigger profile for them option. Winston can see the pitfalls, plus can’t stomach being in the same room as the likes of Davidson, Logie, Shaw or Hughes. Hence, calling in the Cavalry in the form of the “Board”, so he has a scapegoat when it hits the fan.
  
  Winston First is currently a party of one, his vice-like grip is gone, and he can see his Knighthood disappearing in a puff of smug Socialist/Green disaster over the country.
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:09am
tom hunter

More news from the world of Speaking Truth to Power.

Seems this bisexual philosophy student, Alfred MacDonald, studying at the University of Texas at San Antonio (UTSA), had a conversation with a classmate in which he said the following:

“I don’t think highly of Islam because I am bisexual and could be legally put to death in about a dozen countries that use Islam for their legal system.”

Which seems fair enough. A factual statement buttressing a reasonable opinion. The classmate then revealed that she was married to a Muslim – and a world of shit ensues as The Great Offence Machine lumbers into action.

MacDonald is hauled in front of the Chair of the Department of Philosophy and Classics, Eve Browning. By this time his spidey senses are fired up so he records the conversation (legal under Texas law). You can check the recording and transcript at the link if you wish.

The bottom line is that he gets threatened with the university’s “Behavior Intervention Team”. Not to mention this part:

ALFRED MACDONALD: Would it really get me fired to say that I could be killed somewhere?

EVE BROWNING: In that situation as you’ve described it, absolutely yes.

ALFRED MACDONALD: How?

EVE BROWNING: Don’t even ask. It’s clear you’re not taking my word for it. I don’t care to convince you. If I can’t persuade you that it’s in your interest to behave in ways that other people don’t find offensive and objectionable, then at least I’ve done my job.

ALFRED MACDONALD: Well I know that it’s in my interest. I’m just trying to understand the reasoning.

EVE BROWNING: You don’t have to.

ALFRED MACDONALD: Well, this is a truth[-]seeking discipline!

She laughed at that last comment. Yes – the Chair of that department laughed. As the writer of the piece says:

For her, apparently, this wasn’t a question of ethics or logic – it was a matter of shutting up and obeying the rules. Period. “I’m not out to persuade you,” she admitted. “I’m just out to read you the riot act basically.”

Yes, she actually said that. In her own words, she “read the riot act” to a student for having articulated an appalling truth about Islam and for having expected a philosophy professor to provide him with a philosophically sound reason why he should keep silent about that truth.

Unlike the writer I’m way past the stage of saying, “How could this be?” and that it “raises sobering questions”.

This is about power, right? Okay – so fucking destroy this woman. Make sure she’s fired. Make sure she never works in a job like this again. Fuck her life up badly as a lesson to others, since that seems to be her “philosophy”.
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October 15, 2017 9:48am
Maggy Wassilieff

Greenpeace activists
https://www.thelocal.fr/20171012/greenpeace-activists-set-off-fireworks-at-nuclear-plant-in-france
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October 15, 2017 9:55am
- Brito
  
  Actually Maggy, if a group of these special needs people can get to the spent rod pool while eating a mung bean sandwich made from organic lungs, after having formed a committee to decide how many trees they needed to plant because of their emissions caused by the smoke from the fireworks…if they can get to the pool what nasties would have been unleashed if the peaceful Muslim community decided to go have a wee look-see.
  
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  October 15, 2017 3:20pm
MCos

TV1 online has a new Ken Burns doco about the Vietnam War in ten parts.
As someone who remembers the events of the time this is a fascinating series, particularly the reminiscences of the combatants on both sides.
That Ken Burns knows where to find the pulse.

NZ & Oz were the only non Asian countries to send troops to help out the South as I found out about twenty years after the war finished when I went for a tour of the old South Vietnam presidential HQ in Ho Chi Minh City. I thought there might have been a bit of resentment from the locals.
Nope.
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October 15, 2017 10:03am
- kowtow
  
  I’d have thought the “locals” in Saigon would resent the communist invaders from the north. So much so that any who could fled.
  
  I call it Saigon , not the imposed communist name.
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:22am
  - starboard
    
    I have great memories of ‘nam from my time there as a helicopter pilot. Fantastic place, fantastic people.
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:46am
    - Johnboy
      
      Naplam in the morning smells so good! 🙂
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:48am
    - Brito
      
      Bleeding Heart – ‘How can you shoot the women and children?’
      
      Starboard – ‘Ya’ll don’t have to lead so much when ya shoot.’
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:52am
      - starboard
        
        “rat- tat-tat-tat-tat-tat”.
        “chop- chop- chop- chop”
        those were the days..
        
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        October 15, 2017 10:56am
    - Johnboy
      
      Would’ve got a better score if the Gatling had replaced the M60 of course starboard. 🙂
      
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      October 15, 2017 11:03am
      - mikenmild
        
        starboard’s back on the Vietnam fantasy, I see….
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:34am
- Kimbo
  
  Thanks for that, MCos. Was looking for a place to find it. As much as I admire Burns’ work, though, I saw some of the preview interviews and thought he was over-egging the pudding. “Everything in America today all goes back to Vietnam”. Really?! By Reagan it was pretty much forgotten except by Hollywood and the left-wing intelligentsia…who wanted to obsess over it.
  
  I had better not criticise him too much though, as, especially for tom hunter, Burns may be doing a second update of his Baseball series to include some team from the Mid-West who broke some losing drought last season. 😉
  
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  October 15, 2017 1:49pm
Brito

Anybody watching the Nation? Bloody women crying about their work place. Pale Male Stale bullshit. Now they’re asking for quotas. Your business must have 50% female, 50% male and outline who gets paid what. And who is that PMS blowhard sitting between the two of them. What the fuck is happening to my country???? Crying for pay equity. One even said that young female working in law are being asked to do too much. It’s too competitive. For fucks sake!!!!
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October 15, 2017 10:18am
- Keeping Stock
  
  So who’s going to calm all the angst at my place of work when we have to sack half of our mainly-female workforce to achieve gender equality?
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:26am
  - Brito
    
    Exactly KS. “Ok everyone, hold hands and form a circle…Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya…”
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:30am
  - Viking2
    
    You think you have problems with this. The ratio in my place is 10%, the 10% being me.
    I reckon I should get paid a shit load more for being able to corral cats into getting stuff done.
    Haven’t had a full crew at work for weeks, what with sick kids, father in laws, mother in laws, father and mothers both at the same time, Aunties with transplants, husband with a long term transplanted heart, sick dogs, periods, PMS and menopause, winter coffs, colds, sore holes and unusually no pimples on the dickies.
    Then there is just a sicky, a broken wrist, boy friend problems, car problems, haven’t had any sporting ones so must say that’s a plus.
    
    All in all just a normal year employing females, oh I forgot the days when one doesn’t like the other, or one won’t talk to the other or resents the other because she is like her mother, it just goes on and some think employing ladies is easy.
    
    A hard life for a man. Funny thing was this week when one of the young ladies came down with a problem. (quite serious for her and will impact on her work.) They all thought they couldn’t talk with me about it. It was quite hilarious given that I have been employing female staff for about 45 years and have my own daughter and grand daughters.
    
    As I said ain’t much I haven’t seen or heard and had to deal with in those 40+ years.
    
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    October 15, 2017 1:53pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Men are 2/35 at our businesses V2, one of whom is me. Up until a couple of years ago, I was the sole bloke. That’s why I work from home whenever possible.
      
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      October 15, 2017 3:07pm
Johnboy

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/destinations/nz/97857587/masterton-named-new-zealands-most-beautiful-city

Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder in this instance! 🙂
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October 15, 2017 10:26am
- nasska
  
  Fighting talk hombre! 🙂
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:28am
- RalphT
  
  Agreed, Jb. The best thing about Masterton is the bypass.
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:33am
  - Johnboy
    
    The duck lake precinct not’s so bad if the council/police cleaned the shit out of it now and again!! 🙂 🙂
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:45am
    - nasska
      
      The residents of the reservation on the Eastside need somewhere to throw their KFC wrappings & park the stolen shopping trolleys JB. 🙂
      
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      October 15, 2017 10:49am
    - mikenmild
      
      I happen to know that a ride on the miniature railway is the highlight for Johnboy’s trips to Masterton. Although he was a bit miffed when Rotary told him there were no free rides for Gold Card holders.
      
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      October 15, 2017 11:36am
      - Johnboy
        
        Avalon park railway used to be good till Rays chaps filled in the duck lake. 🙂
        
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        October 15, 2017 12:32pm
- Nostradamus
  
  The article has 2 “read more” links:
  
  * Mixed reactions as Masterton reaches finals of most beautiful city awards
  * Hastings beats small field in most beautiful city in NZ and best toilet titles
  
  I clicked through to the second link (a 2016 article as it turns out) to see why Hagley Park is no longer the jewel in the nation’s crown, and read this:
  
  Hastings has been declared the nation’s most beautiful city. But only two other cities put themselves up for the title.
  
  That makes me wonder how many competitors Masterton had in 2017!
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:51am
nasska

What would you prefer……a sore arsehole or a part in a bad Hollywood movie?

Good news you can have both’, Hi, the names Harvey, Harvey Weinstein.
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October 15, 2017 10:26am
kowtow

Austria making a big decision on its future.

‘Polls put “wunderwuzzi” (“whizz-kid”) Sebastian Kurz, 31, and his centre-right People’s Party (OeVP) in first place with over 30 percent and on course to become Europe’s youngest leader.

His most likely coalition partner is seen as the anti-immigration Freedom Party (FPOe), which may humiliatingly relegate the once-mighty SPOe into third place.’

Just watch the “deomcratic” EU attack his policies if he mangaes to get in.

https://www.thelocal.at/20171014/austrian-chancellor-in-last-ditch-election-warning
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October 15, 2017 10:48am
- Johnboy
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN7r0Rr1Qyc
  
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  October 15, 2017 10:51am
  - starboard
    
    Bit gay JB..
    
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    October 15, 2017 10:59am
  - stigie
    
    Does look slightly gay JB, he does have a sweet voice..?
    
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    October 15, 2017 11:05am
    - nasska
      
      Probably a reject castrato from the Vatican stigie. 🙂
      
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      October 15, 2017 11:12am
      - Johnboy
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTjFTbjRT1U
        Here’s the fellow nasska. 🙂
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:16am
      - stigie
        
        Damn, you could be right Nasska..?
        
        Search Results
        “A castrato (Italian, plural: castrati) is a type of classical male singing voice equivalent to that of a soprano, mezzo-soprano, or contralto. The voice is produced by castration of the singer before puberty, or it occurs in one who, due to an endocrinological condition, never reaches sexual maturity.”
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:16am
      - stigie
        
        Camp as a row of tents JB..?
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:23am
  - kowtow
    
    Tomorrow belongs to Mohammed.
    
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    October 15, 2017 1:39pm
- Brito
  
  Finally, a western European country fighting back. Forget the rubbish you’ll hear from the left. If that’s where the democratic process takes a country then that is where it will surely go.
  
  The handwringing and the stories of their Nazi past will begin to circulate. But when your country and way of life is being threatened by an alien presence, what other options do you have left.
  
  Ask the simple questions. Do you want to live here under our rules? Will you obey these rules like we must? Will you contribute to the uniqueness of our country and strive to make it better?
  
  If not…fuck right off back to wherever you came from.
  
  Why is that so difficult to understand?
  
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  October 15, 2017 12:40pm
starboard

This is more like it buddy boy

https://youtu.be/InRDF_0lfHk
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October 15, 2017 11:01am
- Johnboy
  
  Tastes were more for pretty boys in 1938 rather than nasty heavy metal bands starboard. 🙂
  
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  October 15, 2017 11:06am
- Brito
  
  Hey Starboard I was in VN in 1970. Were you with Whiskey 3 by any chance? I was with the RNZAF attached to the USMC Marine Attack Squadron. We’d get dropped off in the highlands and call in the fall of shot.
  
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  October 15, 2017 11:27am
  - mikenmild
    
    starboard is well know for pretending to have served in Vietnam, among other fantasies…
    
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    October 15, 2017 11:38am
    - Brito
      
      I don’t know mm. Let’s see what he says. There is a whiff of fact here.
      
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      October 15, 2017 11:41am
      - mikenmild
        
        He has previously asserted he was a helicopter pilot there, and then part of one of the infantry companies. Plus, he claimed to have stayed behind following the NZ withdrawal in 1973.
        
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        October 15, 2017 11:45am
      - starboard
        
        Yes mate, I could’ve choppered you in with the Huey I was flying at the time. Bob Pearson, Pete Adamson to name a couple of guys I remember. I was seconded into the RAAF, mainly doing milk runs in and out of Nui Dat in ’68
        
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        October 15, 2017 2:07pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      milkmaid is well known for pretending to work among other fantasies….
      
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      October 15, 2017 12:24pm
    - starboard
      
      Shut your pie hole mm you poor excuse of a man
      
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      October 15, 2017 1:42pm
      - Johnboy
        
        How dare you insult a man who deserves multiple valour awards for being the only HOB member who volunteered to carry on picking up the soap in the showers when the Marist Bros. took the place over.
        You should be utterly ashamed of yourself starboard! 🙂
        
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        October 15, 2017 2:01pm
    - Brito
      
      I was there in Ba Ria for a while and then moved to Chi Lang to assist with training of the SV units who were going to work in the Highlands. I knew Bob and Pete well.
      
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      October 15, 2017 2:47pm
      - Brito
        
        Who the fuck down ticked me? Was that you Ronny Wood? If Starboard and I were forty years younger we’d come and give you an adjustment my son. We’d pile faggots around you and tie you to a big post and cleanse you with a wee does of mothers milk as we used to call it…napalm ya commie carpet muncher.
        
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        October 15, 2017 3:25pm
starboard

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=11932212

FFS..dont tell Notsofast
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October 15, 2017 11:12am
gorse

Looks like adern knows she is it, apparently giving cameras a wink. Great news if this is so. Another election in a couple of years, A Natioanl landslide then. Hunker down and weather the storm.
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October 15, 2017 11:14am
starboard

idiot feral..good riddance slimeball.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=11931873
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October 15, 2017 11:14am
- Johnboy
  
  Where the fuck do stupid murri get their kids names from…..how the hell can the poor little bastards ever have a proper life……walks off shaking head.
  
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  October 15, 2017 11:19am
  - Digmen1
    
    From Black American gangsta rap movies and videos.
    
    Yes, its time there was an official list of names to chose from.
    
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    October 15, 2017 11:28am
publicwatchdog

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Exposing the, IMO, Tamaki ‘Regeneration’ – GENTRIFICATION SCAM:

DEVELOPMENTS:

100% Crown-owned ‘Crown Entity Company’ – Tamaki Regeneration Ltd, with $1.6 billion worth of former Housing is not listed under Sch 4A of the Public Finance Act, or Sch 2 of the Crown Entities Act, or listed as a company monitored by Treasury’s Crown Company Monitoring Advisory Unit.

How ‘banana republic’ is THAT?

I have raised my concerns directly with:

*The Office of the Auditor-General.

*The office of the Attorney-General.

*The office of the Solicitor-General.

* Treasury (legal).

* The State Services Commission.

(My concerns are being addressed by all the above-mentioned.)

This 5 minute video where I explain the, IMO, ‘Tamaki Scam’ has now had over 169,000 views on facebook.

IMO, the essence of the ‘Tamaki Scam’ has been to use similar-sounding names for different companies, in order to disguise the real private property developer-driven GENTRIFICATION’ agenda, as ‘Regeneration’ of poorer communities.

https://www.facebook.com/penny.bright.104/posts/1796625243683493‬

Penny Bright

‘Anti-privatisation / anti-corruption whistle-blower’.
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October 15, 2017 11:15am
- nasska
  
  Cuckoo!! 🙂
  
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  October 15, 2017 11:16am
- Johnboy
  
  Our country lost an interesting era when the foolish voters never elected you to lead us Penelope! 🙂
  
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  October 15, 2017 11:23am
  - starboard
    
    Do ya wear that coon skin hat to bed Penny….and nothing else?
    Geez you can move!
    https://youtu.be/JWrVoW57sEU
    
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    October 15, 2017 11:26am
  - stigie
    
    She just loves coming here for the abuse, i reckon it’s a turn on for the bludger !~
    
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    October 15, 2017 11:27am
    - flipper
      
      Battered wife syndrome ???
      Nah.
      Her “girl friend” would never do that….
      
      And dumbo, apol0gise to Banksie!
      
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      October 15, 2017 12:00pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Penny:
  
  This 5 minute video where I explain the, IMO, ‘Tamaki Scam’ has now had over 169,000 views on facebook.
  
  I wouldn’t assume that “over 169,000 views” means support for your cause. The recent election result shows that 244 people voted for you and 37,591 people didn’t vote for you.
  
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  October 15, 2017 11:28am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Quite so Nostradamus – people love a good train-wreck clip on YouTube.
    
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    October 15, 2017 3:12pm
    - stigie
      
      I couldn’t help myself, another picture of Penny showing us how to behave!
      
      http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/anti-waikato-water-protester-penny-bright-trys-to-get-under-the-gate-picture-id56088042?s=594×594
      
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      October 15, 2017 3:54pm
- mikenmild
  
  Has the deadline passed for seeking a recount for the Tamaki electorate, Penny?
  
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  October 15, 2017 11:39am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Mikenmild:
    
    The next event in Penny’s calendar (assuming she doesn’t have any overseas conferences to attend in the meantime) is 23 January 2018: candidate election expenses and donations return due.
    
    And there’s bad news:
    
    Return of nomination deposits
    
    If you receive 5% or more of the votes cast for all candidates in the electorate you are entitled to a refund of the $300 deposit paid when you were nominated.
    
    Penny received 0.65% – not quite the 5% she would’ve been hoping for. Dang – it must be time for another “give a little” fundraising effort on Facebook?
    
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    October 15, 2017 11:46am
    - mikenmild
      
      I’m pretty sure she should seek a recount. There is obviously something wrong if her thousands of Facebook views only resulted in a handful of votes.
      
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      October 15, 2017 11:50am
      - Johnboy
        
        You seem to be turning a little to the right Milkey?
        I guess it gets lonely going round and round in lefthand circles all the time! 🙂
        
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        October 15, 2017 12:35pm
    - stigie
      
      Any idea when the next court appearance is Nostra, the truckload of popcorn i bought early last year when we thought the hovel was going up for auction is getting close to their “use by date”..?
      
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      October 15, 2017 11:57am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        I think Penny’s latest legal case has run out of steam:
        
        Bright v Town [2017] NZHC 141 (13 February 2017)
        
        The background of Ms Bright’s defamation claim is set out in my judgment given on 10 March 2016, and it is not necessary to repeat in this judgment everything that was said there. But in brief summary, Ms Bright (who describes herself as a fulltime public watchdog, particularly on the affairs of the Auckland Council) has sued Mr Town (the Chief Executive of the Council) for damages for allegedly defamatory statements made by Mr Town in a Press Release (the Press Release) authorised by Mr Town and issued by the Council in the afternoon on 10 October 2014.
        …
        In my view a reasonable juror would note first that Ms Bright was seriously in default in payment of her rates. The juror would also probably accept the proposition in the Press Release that Ms Bright’s refusal to pay her rates was, to some extent, an action taken at expense of those Auckland ratepayers who were paying their rates. The hypothetical juror might reasonably conclude that the Council was doing no more than taking what was clearly a “last resort” step in discharging its statutory duties to levy and recover rates from ratepayers.
        …
        I enter summary judgment for Mr Town.
        
        It took Associate Judge Smith 133 paragraphs – but he came to the correct conclusion!
        
        See also Bright v Town [2017] NZHC 1027 (18 May 2017)
        
        Ms Bright has applied to review Associate Judge Smith’s decision. Because this proceeding was commenced prior to March 2017 and costs on the summary judgment application are still unresolved Ms Bright’s application for review falls to be determined in accordance with the Judicature Act 1908 rather than the Senior Courts Act 2016.
        …
        The application for review of Associate Judge Smith’s decision is dismissed.
        
        Justice Courtney only needed 9 paragraphs to come to the correct conclusion!
        
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        October 15, 2017 12:14pm
      - Johnboy
        
        At least we have one Courtney on KB with an open mind Nostradamus. 🙂
        
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        October 15, 2017 12:36pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Oh shit, here we go again.
  
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  October 15, 2017 12:29pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See?
  I Spray And Walk Away
  Rubbish Stays
  I walk away
  
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  October 15, 2017 4:06pm
Digmen1

Trump is getting stuck in to Iran again.

It seems to me that Iran and Saudi Arabia are the two big powers in the Arab / Middle East / Muslim world.

The US seems to support Saudi Arabia.

I know that Iran does some bad things and supports some terrorist organisations.

But so does Saudi Arabia. (eg they attack Yemen and support Wahabi islam in the UK building mosques everywhere)

Which of these two countries do you favour ?
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October 15, 2017 11:33am
- mikenmild
  
  The good thing about being a realist is that you don’t have to ‘favour’ either of them.
  Although, in many respects, Iran is much closer to our ideas of liberal democracy than Saudi Arabia. For example, they have a functioning democracy and entrenched rights for women and minorities. On the con side, Iran is well known as a supporter of international terrorism.
  I’d like to list the pros for Saudi Arabia, but I can’t think of any.
  
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  October 15, 2017 11:43am
  - fernglas
    
    They buy a lot of American ordnance?
    
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    October 15, 2017 12:05pm
  - softail 1450
    
    they have some beautiful palaces ,100s in fact.
    
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    October 15, 2017 1:05pm
    - Digmen1
      
      And a gold plated escalator
      
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      October 15, 2017 1:13pm
EAD_TWO

When it comes to Weinstein, has there ever been a case of real life imitating art more than this image of Weinstein and a young Emma Watson?

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dWuhoHV0438/Wd9P-PX61wI/AAAAAAAACBM/ejXLsxD_nnEVCsPUcfF7GkXIbwW2NhNmQCLcBGAs/s1600/zzzWeinstein.PNG

PS: thanks for the rapid downtick Milkmaid!
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October 15, 2017 11:38am
- EAD_TWO
  
  I see even Jazz Hands McFeels has tweeted the same image that is going viral!
  
  https://twitter.com/JMcfeels/status/919287022900035584
  
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  October 15, 2017 11:56am
- Johnboy
  
  Milkey always Reids everything you say old chap. 🙂
  
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  October 15, 2017 12:38pm
Manolo

On the extent of the complicity between Hollywood and the American liberal elite, the chic Democrats:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/06/business/media/harvey-weinsteins-media-enablers.html

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/10/11/harvey-weinstein-hollywoods-sanctimonious-chickens-come-home-roost
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October 15, 2017 11:39am
Ross12

There are some crazy people involved in “journalism” and real estate.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11932406

I realise the article is basically an infomercial but give your readers some credit for basic intelligence.
They say it is an “entry level” property to get into Ponsonby ( ball it and rebuild) but then they say

“If you don’t have that big bag of cash, here is your opportunity to get into one of Auckland’s sought after inner-city suburbs in a more affordable way.”

Further on we have this
“On the same street as Harper’s property, a 3-bedroom pre-1914 villa with a rating value of $1.09m was sold for $1,495,000 – $405,000 (27 per cent) above its valuation.
Just around the corner on John Street a two-bedroom villa, dated pre-1914, with a rating value of $980,000 sold for $1,372,000 – $392,000 (26 per cent) above valuation”

So you can buy an existing house for 400-500k more in the same area. Why pay $1.0mill for a section?
Promote it for what it is — an expensive bit of dirt in a highly desirable part of Auckland with the opportunity to build a nice architecturally designed house for yourself or on selling.
It is not entry level either for those entering the housing market or even those entering the property development market.
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October 15, 2017 12:07pm
tom hunter

Awesome win for the Houston Astros over the Yankees to put them 2-0 up. Of course the Indians were at the same point a week ago and then lost 3 in a row.

But Houston are way better than the Indians this year. Lets see if they can shove another loss down the Yankees throat in front of their rabid New York fans.

Oh yeah – and in an event that Cubs fans will feel oh-so-familiar with, the winning runs in the bottom of the 9th came off Mr 100mph, Aroldis Chapman, proving once again that in playoff series, against the best batters, even 100mph+ pitches are not always enough.
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October 15, 2017 12:17pm
Surely Knott

The crises in NZ poverty, Kauri Dieback etc we see being politicised. And the reporting on poor is often sloppy examples of people who aren’t the best example. The Kauri issue has also been politicised. This pic of a woman giving phosphate to an infected Kauri doesn’t seem to be the best example.As the Kauri is growing in the middle of her driveway and pushing up the pavers. No wonder it’s root system is damaged and it’s become vulnerable. It’s only going to get bigger and rip her whole driveway up. Not good for the tree or the driveway. Best cut down the diseased tree and let the
many other Kauri behind her have a better chance of more light and more apporpriate location.
If the journos are trying to portray a crisis they need to use examples that genuinely show the problem. http://www.kaurirescue.org.nz/uploads/9/6/3/5/96352766/front-image_orig.jpg
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October 15, 2017 12:54pm
tom hunter

And now it’s on to the first game of the Dodgers-Cubs series for the National League pennant and…. sigh.

Batting: Same.
Cubs and Dodgers same capabilities but the latter have had a better season. But playoffs are different.

Fielding: Same.
Both sides are good on defence. The Cubs not up to last year’s standards.

Pitching: Dodgers.
Bugger. Their starting pitching is better and their closing pitching way better than the Cubs, who look patchwork. It’s why they hired Aroldis Chapman mid-way through 2016, to bolster the closing staff. He’s gone and the replacements are just not there.

So basically I expect the Dodgers to win this series and win it well. But we will see; they face-planted through August-September, with not one but two stretches of losing ten games in a row. And the Cubs were a shade off having the best record in all baseball in the second half of the season. They sure did not look it though in their series against the Nationals.

So low expectations of a Cubs win. Will be fun to see if their great starting pitcher, Clayton Kershaw, is determined to crush the Cub’s pitchers in revenge for the shellacking they gave him in game six of last year’s ALCS.
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October 15, 2017 1:04pm
- Kimbo
  
  Join in with tom hunter’s Sunday afternoon emotional roller-coaster. Always here to help, buddy! 😉 :
  
  https://www.mlb.com/gameday/cubs-vs-dodgers/2017/10/14/526504?partnerId=LR_gameday#game_tab=gameday,game_state=live,game=526504
  
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  October 15, 2017 1:41pm
- tom hunter
  
  If emotional torture is what you’re missing rather than pleasant conversation about a lovely afternoon game of baseball, 🙂 – I hear rumours that there may be decision about a government this afternoon?
  
  Anyhoo. Did you watch the Astros-Yankees game? That little guy, Matuva, is some kind of player. No wonder he was the Astro’s season MVP.
  
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  October 15, 2017 1:48pm
  - Kimbo
    
    No, I’m on poor-people’s budget and am watching the updates online – will catch up with the highlights later on youtube. Is like being one of the thousands standing in Time Square watching the Play-O-Graph display a game in Boston in the famous Giants-Red Sox World Series of 1912 (Smokey Joe Wood and Fred Snodgrass!):
    
    https://mlblogsourgame.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/1912-world-series-on-playograph.jpg
    
    …Believe it or not, like following cricinfo online (at least until their latest update made it unreadable), it increases the dramatic tension. A bit like how radio is a “hot” medium, whereas TV with too much visual is “cold”. Your imagination and mind are much more active and engaged in the anticipation. 😉
    
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    October 15, 2017 1:59pm
  - tom hunter
    
    Ah yes. I recall trying to “watch” the infamous 2003 Cub playoff game against the Marlins that way because SKY TV would not show the NL playoffs (but did show the AL). Assholes!
    
    And of course in following that game in that manner I was sitting there following the reported pitches, only to be left wondering what the hell was going on when it all locked up. Little did I know until much later.
    
    But I’ve spent $NZ 35 the last couple of years for the MLB.TV post-season streaming. It’s very good, although it got a bit glitchy at times.
    
    Your story of the 1912 game sounds rather like the scene outside Wrigley stadium last year for the climatic WS game 7, when the local cellphone towers crapped out under the pressure of all these people watching on their cellphones. Result: darkness, evil rumours, fear….. because nobody carries “transistor radios” anymore. There was a very funny photo of one crowd that gathered in the street beneath some two-storey apartment because the residents were watching a big-screen TV from their deck.!!!!
    
    Sad-funny. People thrown back a thousand years in time!!!!
    
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    October 15, 2017 2:08pm
- tom hunter
  
  Sigh! As expected. The Cubs hitters are good enough to get runs even off Kershaw. But even a 2-0 run lead is not enough when you’re closing pitchers give up 3 runs!!!
  
  Like I said, a shaky, patched-together bullpen that leaks runs – and that’s not something you can fix quickly. Certainly not quickly enough to win a seven-game series.
  
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  October 15, 2017 4:39pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Best of seven, tom, best of seven.
    
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    October 15, 2017 6:14pm
rightoverlabour

Stuff are having multiple orgasms, Jacinda may have … “winked”. As are some of the dim wits on the left who have responded in the comments. Hoping I won’t have a three year depression coming on soon if the clusterfuck of the losers gets in. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97889597/labours-jacinda-ardern-sticks-to-script-on-coalition-talks–with-mischevious-touch
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October 15, 2017 1:26pm
noskire

Women posting ‘free nudes’ are destroying the industry, says model http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11933162. This article is intended as a joke, right?
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October 15, 2017 2:32pm
- holysheet
  
  Looking at the photo of the complainant, you would have to think so. There must be better lookers than her giving it away for free, so she’s bitching about her looks not stacking up. Diddums.
  
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  October 15, 2017 3:15pm
Johnboy

The culturally pissed off disease seems to spreading. First Murri then Abo now Greeko! 🙂

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11933169
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October 15, 2017 2:39pm
- GoVege
  
  Maybe the super-sensitivity of the Greeks has something to do with their economy tanking a while back….
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:23pm
Jack5

British teachers’ union trying to brainwash children into pacifism.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/10/14/peace-campaigners-accused-indoctrinating-childrenas-teaching/
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October 15, 2017 3:12pm
MH

3RD Armoured Brigade deployed along Russian border. Chinese TV reports this in detail and analysis, meanwhile the kapa haka competition and free nudes occupies the rest of the free world.
I always thought the lack of a macron was the cause of the imperial typewriter’s demise, being a subliminal fiscal cap on the lower case letter a from becoming an A for anarchy. Orsome. Has anyone typed up an apology to Nth Korea for our 161 battery yet?
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October 15, 2017 3:17pm
- MH
  
  whoops 16 Field Regmt RNZA
  
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  October 15, 2017 3:21pm
AgentBallSack

When asked if Ms Clinton knew about Harvey Weinstein:

“Look, we just elected someone who admitted sexual assault to the presidency. So there’s a lot of other issues that are swirling around these kinds of behaviors that need to be addressed,” Clinton said when asked if she had heard rumors of Weinstein’s behavior before the bombshell reports.

“I think it’s important that we stay focused, and shine a bright spotlight, and try to get people to understand how damaging this is,” she continued.

“The women coming forward is the only way that that story will be told,” she said.

Deflect and deny. Pity she didn’t believe in this for her husbands accusers, the gall of that fucking woman is unbelievable

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/ar-AAtqWYC?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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October 15, 2017 3:19pm
- Digmen1
  
  She’s probably upset he did not proposition her.
  
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  October 15, 2017 4:26pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Anyone here keeping an eye on NZ-Fiji politics?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-13/pr-firm-qorvis-calls-all-the-shots-for-fijian-government/9043554
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October 15, 2017 3:22pm
- Jack5
  
  A link to an old account of the beginning of Qorvis.
  
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/26/AR2006102601407.html
  
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  October 15, 2017 3:48pm
Nermal

William of Ockham & Hugh Pavletich are very good at what they do, ie trolling. They are ably abetted by all of you who react to their post by posting rebuttals or insults in return. William got 19 posts, Hugh got 20, but a few of those were his own.

I know WO isn’t popular amongs many here, but he has a great way of dealing with trolls, don’t feed them, better still ignore them completely.

Imagine if Hugh or William came back a few hours after their early morning dump to see that absolutely no one had responded or reacted to them. Take away their oxygen, and they will wither away.

Penny is an exception though. She has entertainment value. Every village should have at least one idiot.
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October 15, 2017 3:28pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Yup, feeds my daily need of telling someone to “Fuck Off”, without any stirrings of conscience or second thoughts…
  
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  October 15, 2017 3:45pm
- Brito
  
  William (Bill) is a prat and it makes me feel good. Is that bad?
  
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  October 15, 2017 4:27pm
- nasska
  
  …..”Every village should have at least one idiot.”…..
  
  We’re triply blessed. 🙂
  
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  October 15, 2017 4:43pm
AgentBallSack

Renowned Porn king Larry Flynt and generous Democrat benefactor (where the fuck do they find these people), is offering 10 million dollars for any evidence to bring down President Trump.
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October 15, 2017 4:41pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Trump says to Larry “see you, and raise that 10 million” to bring me down
  
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  October 15, 2017 6:02pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Larry Flynt looks to have the exact same genetics as Weinstein – they could pass for identical twins.
  
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  October 15, 2017 6:58pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Greens preparing for battle in Queensland
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/greens-leader-richard-di-natale-prepared-to-risk-arrest-to-stop-adani-20171014-gz15oo.html
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October 15, 2017 4:51pm
cmm

What’s it with these Lefties inviting comparisons between Lenin and Goff?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11931811

“Two steps forward one step backwards”

That’s exactly what Lenin said with his New Economic Policy that set off a course of action that killed hundreds of millions of people.

Now Herald is saying that of Goff… as if it is a good thing!

Auckland ratepayers what the hell is wrong with you?

Commies kill with bullets or indirectly through starvation and such.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GTVV6XHfP4
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October 15, 2017 5:19pm
Nostradamus

“Let nature take its course.” (Makara local, Haydon Miller)

He’s talking about this: Wellington beach inundated with blue jellyfish invasion.

Miller said he thought there must be millions of them because the creatures, known as Velella, were across several kilometers of coastline.

Blue jellyfish, not red jellyfish, at this critical point in the coalition discussions. Is this a message for Winston?
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October 15, 2017 5:42pm
- nasska
  
  A favour Nostradamus…..
  
  Sooner or later we’re going to find out who receives the nod from Winston. You’ll recall that a few on this forum waxed long & loud about “teaching National a lesson” & “giving the Nats a backbone”.
  
  Since whatever arrangement that gets stitched up is doomed to failure it is inevitable that the same whiners will shut up like pipis at low tide when everything turns to shit.
  
  Can you prepare a list of those who spent the lead-up to the election snivelling about National & promising to shift their vote to NZ First?
  
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  October 15, 2017 5:52pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Credit where it is due, Shawn Herles despite weeks of talking up Peters repented and did the “two ticks blue” thing as the prospect of a coalition with Labour and the Greens brought him to his senses. “Nothing focuses a man’s mind more than the thought that he will be hanged in the morning”! 😉
    
    Not so sure about DifferentPerspective, who seems to be spending a lot of time lately and repeatedly to anyone who will listen blaming MMP for our alleged “national predicament”. Maybe a distraction for his misdemeanor! 😉
    
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    October 15, 2017 5:56pm
    - nasska
      
      There were others too Kimbo. That’s why I’m appealing for the assistance of Nostra & his amazing memory.
      
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      October 15, 2017 6:00pm
      - Kimbo
        
        I’ve been upfront – party vote National, but the Labour candidate in my electorate earned my vote as, among other things she at least had the competence and guts to answer my email query about how she would vote on Seymour’s euthanasia bill (in principle in favour, but wanted to see what the safeguards were for misuse against the elderly and disabled)
        
        …in contrast to the National candidate, a devout Filipino Catholic who said he got into politics as he was motivated by the abortion issue. OK, so I was almost 100% sure what you thought on euthanasia…but no reply. Automatic fail. Like I really want an MP…who doesn’t reply to correspondence?!
        
        “Better to be ruled by a competent Turk than an incompetent Christian prince”. 😉
        
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        October 15, 2017 6:12pm
      - nasska
        
        Fair comment Kimbo. I too party voted National as always but there’s no way the absentee carpetbagger who masquerades as the local Nat electorate candidate would get my support as long as my arse points downwards.
        
        It’s the turncoats who wasted their all important party vote that I want to see squirm. 🙂
        
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        October 15, 2017 6:23pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    That’s a tough challenge.
    
    Let me give you 3 names:
    
    (Chuck Bird on 3 September) “I support Winston and want him in government”.
    
    (Paul Scott on 12 September) “I hope we [NZ First] get at least 4 Ministers”.
    
    (Dad4Justice on 6 September) “As a undecided voter I applaud this policy [National’s youth unemployment] policy”; but (Dad4Justice on 28 September) “FFS WINSTON SAVE US FROM THE MADNESS OF LICKSPITTLE NATIONAL AND THE COMMUNIST GREENS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY!”
    
    Another possible candidate:
    
    (PJM on 20 September) “Except if he [Winston Peters] was instrumental in taking away from banks the power to create money out of nothing and lend it out at interest, and forced banks to become the mere financial intermediaries that they have always held themselves out to be. Then he would be revered as our saviour!”
    
    It seems, in PJM’s case, that there’s no problem or issue that can’t be resolved with what he calls “sovereign money”.
    
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    October 15, 2017 6:27pm
    - nasska
      
      Thanks Nostra. Let us know if you think of any more.
      
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      October 15, 2017 6:29pm
      - stigie
        
        I’ll be very interested indeed for Dad to explain away if Winston does go with the left, he wanted him to teach National a lesson but go with National not the other way round..?
        But of course, we may not see him till the 28th Nov !~
        
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        October 15, 2017 7:12pm
      - Happychappy
        
        nasska just wait to see the pathetic excuses they will give you for voting for Winston. The thing is they hate being reminded at the names they have called Bill English and others saying what a great job Bill did to ward off the challenge of Jacinda and her media hype. DA and RC can go with other names for your list.
        
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        October 15, 2017 7:36pm
    - dad4justice
      
      Oh well Nostra we will all know tomorrow.
      
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      October 15, 2017 8:34pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        D4J:
        
        The negotiation process is, to say the least, obscure:
        
        The Green Party’s deal is almost complete and the 170 or so delegates are ready to vote on it by a teleconference which could happen tonight, in advance of NZ First’s board meeting to decide between the Labour and National packages tomorrow. It is understood NZ First has made it clear it wants the Green Party to sign off on its deal before NZ First makes its choice so it can be sure Labour has the numbers to form a government.
        
        How can 170+ Green delegates vote on a deal unless they have full details of the Labour package – which almost inevitably means a media leak? And what alternative do they really have anyway other than “deal or no deal”?
        
        The whole thing’s been a sorry saga from start to end.
        
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        October 15, 2017 9:09pm
Viking2

During a robbery in Guangzhou, China, the bank robber shouted to everyone in the bank: “Don’t move. The money belongs to the State. Your life belongs to you.”
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October 15, 2017 7:00pm
Viking2

Venezuela
Looks like there way out is crumbling.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/travel/travel-news/the-international-monetary-fund-has-severe-concerns-for-struggling-venezuela/news-story/dc63146d8e355ba1e7e7d19e5e87b35b

dozens of airlines have also stopped flying in and out of the troubled South American nation — formerly South America’s wealthiest — due to concerns over violence and political uncertainty. It’s a move which could wipe it off the travel map for good.
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October 15, 2017 7:01pm
nasska

Back when I was a kid, there was no internet.

People would sometimes have to walk for miles just to call me an arsehole.
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October 15, 2017 7:54pm
- GoVege
  
  But did they call you a racist arsehole like yours truly, nasska? 🙂
  
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  October 15, 2017 8:15pm
  - nasska
    
    I found that people were less sensitive in those days GoVege. I used to call one of my workmates a useless black bastard while he’d call me a pakeha arsehole & worse.
    
    We were still the best of mates & we’d watch each other’s back in the pub.
    
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    October 15, 2017 8:23pm
    - GoVege
      
      Hehe.
      Don’t you also hate people who can’t take the odd swear word, nasska?
      Some years ago I rang KFC about being short a few pieces of KFC.
      I say to the manager..”where’s our bloody chicken?”
      The phone goes dead.
      I ring the area manager and he calls back saying “apparently you used some pretty terrible language”.
      Next thing Mr GoVege decides to get in on the act and calls the manager.
      The first thing I hear him say is “where’s our fu**ing chicken mate?!”
      
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      October 15, 2017 8:38pm
Digmen1

Can I vote in the Austrian election ?
Lets hope they get a right wing coalition

“Opinion polls point clearly to the People’s party of Sebastian Kurz, the 31-year-old foreign minister, winning the most votes on Sunday. That would give Mr Kurz the first chance to form a government and become chancellor.”

First chance!
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October 15, 2017 8:15pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Last year Gov Jerry Brown, California, vetoed a bill aimed at reducing wildfires from arcing and falling powerlines.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/11/wine-country-fires-gov-brown-vetoed-2016-bill-aimed-at-power-line-wildfire-safety/

This is a problem California has known about for decades.
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October 15, 2017 8:30pm
Harriet

Antifa?

Well then, if they are truly antifascists……

Antifag would be a better name! 😎
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October 15, 2017 9:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Catholic Archbishop reckons Governments should keep out of bedrooms.
(They wouldn’t fit in mine)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-15/governments-should-keep-out-of-the-bedroom-says-archbishop/9051642
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October 15, 2017 9:58pm
Inandout

Vegas: Why was the security guard not registered as required under state law?
Did Paddock top himself or did another person do it?
Why did none of the phone chargers match the phones found?
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October 15, 2017 10:12pm
- Digmen1
  
  What were the police doing for 6 minutes?
  
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  October 16, 2017 6:43am
Left Right and Centre

celebrating cultural diversty, with your host LR&C

young Asian pulls into suburban shop bus stop with the bus right behind him. Then after a small delay decides to pull out and try to cross two lanes sideways.

Old Asian couple walking towards me – the man gives me a slow a retarded slow wave with a stupid look on his face.

Indian shelf filler stale BO cloud. Oh look – every other Indian is a Sikh – even though they only number 2% of Indians in India. Love those turbans man.

saw more fobs than kiwis. I’m celebrating like a mofo here.
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