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krazykiwi

October 2017. A 9th Floor Conversation …

“Hey guys, welcome to the Tax Working Group. (big toothy grin)

This should be a pretty straightforward engagement for you all. I’ve prepared an detailed paper of the taxes you will be recommending in your report. (hands around single page).

Look, we need to raise an additional $50 billion over the next three years. I don’t care how you do it, but it must appear that these taxes were your ideas, you know, the result of careful consultation. Of course I don’t actually want you to consult. Shit no! (waves index finger) Just make sure it appears that way.

Mike Munro here has prepared a media plan, designed to create a public impression that you are driving this process both independently, and based on public consultation. The parts in red are the tax issues I’ll publicly reject. You know, to convince NZers I’ve got their back. So be ready to be defensive when I protest loudly. It’s all part of the charade. My media friends are briefed, so it should play well.

Also, your fees. These will be paid today.. so you can benefit from the lower tax rate (laughter). And Remember, your invitation to contribute here was after you pledged a $9000 donation to the Labour party. That’s why we have so many of you involved (more laughter)

(holds hands up) Ok, ok. Now. I have heaps of appointments coming up at schools, old-folks homes, along with my regular anxiety counselling, so Helen has kindly offered to oversee this Working Group. (pauses, looks around table)

Right. Let’s do this! (general paper shuffling, people packing up)

(quietly over left shoulder) Helen, I used the script like you told me. Did I do ok?”
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September 3, 2017 8:00am
- RF
  
  Sadly so true.
  
  You missed the compulsory sun glasses to be worn by all of in the presence of princess Jacinda. The pearly whites have a very high reflective value.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:08am
  - oldpark
    
    Not forgetting the inheritance tax, code word for “Dead Granny Tax”.
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:35am
    - RalphT
      
      Which gets its name from the fact that worrying about how little they will soon be able to leave the kids will drive many a granny to an early grave.
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:00am
    - waikatogirl
      
      I dropped into the conversation with my old dad who lives in a retirement village that he should pass the word there is likely to be an inheritance tax (dead granny tax) introduced if Liarbor are elected. There was horror in his voice.
      I also suggested he remind the oldies that there is the loss of a tax cut in April if Liarbor are elected.
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:25am
      - GazzaW
        
        I think it’s highly indicative of the way Winston is swinging that he has not highlighted the possbility of death duties and the loss of $16 per fortnight to his traditional voters. He could have torn Labour apart but has chosen not to do so. Why?
        
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        September 3, 2017 12:48pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      How will families accumulate wealth over generations to make themselves less dependent upon the State if their assets are plundered every 30 years?
      
      Family wealth can pay for the education, healthcare and elder care of its members, making a family with assets less of a drain on the taxpayer.
      
      Doesn’t New Zealand like independent, capable families?
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:38am
      - waikatogirl
        
        My mother-in-law’s monthly nursing home cost has recently risen 12% per month.
        
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        September 3, 2017 1:54pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  It’s a fake!
  
  The prepared speech does not have enough I’s and totally does not have the word transparent!
  
  It is a forgery comrades, let me be totally clear about this!
  
  I am clear and transparent about this!
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:11am
  - KKKKatee
    
    “Correction. I am the most transparent untransparent person you are ever likely to meet. But don’t tell the peasants that my modus operandi is to baffle ’em with bullshit. And the thing is, I’m starting to believe it myself”.
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:11am
- stigie
  
  So no farmers on the tax working group then..?//
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:14am
- KKKKatee
  
  “It’s all about me”. Hee! Hee!
  We are currently living a nightmare.
  She’s coming after all us rich pricks…..
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:56am
  - eandlbufe
    
    Shit I’m not a reach prick but do own my 2 bedroon home. I have paid rates and taxes since before Adam and now horse face wants to come, munch what is left for my ex dependants heritage and give it to her voter group. Yeah I’m going to voter for! I think not.
    
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    September 3, 2017 2:05pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      Anyone who owns a house no matter how big or how small is a ‘rich prick’ in the eyes of those who don’t own their own home eandlbufe. Comrade Jacinda won’t discriminate – just wants to take a chunk out of your hard-earned asset regardless.
      Do you think that’s fair? I certainly don’t. Husband and I have worked hard to build up assets and there were some very hard times involved when things were bumpy. Does Comrade Jacinda care? No she doesn’t. She wants to rob from the ‘rich’ (and that’s homeowners etc.) to give to the poor. I’m surprised that she hasn’t gone and got a tattoo on her forehead which says #LetsTaxThis.
      Two Ticks Blue
      
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      September 3, 2017 2:49pm
      - sam green
        
        You’re not married. No one wants you.
        
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        September 5, 2017 3:51pm
- Kimbo
  
  Quite so!
  
  Will someone please tell the usually astute Albert_Ross who is repeating Ardern’s talking point that while Labour don’t have access to the same research facilities as the Government, such as Treasury. etc, they nonetheless are funded by the tax-payer so that that have sufficient research. Is a basic necessity of being Her Majesty’s Most Loyal Opposition. Hence they have included a CGT in their manifesto in the past. Plus the Labour candidate in my own electorate, Deborah Russell is a…tax expert!
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:01am
- GoVege
  
  Pathetic, kk.
  
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  September 3, 2017 2:53pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Sorry you didn’t like it GoVege. It was going to be set at a BBQ, but I chose a beehive meeting room so as to not offend your sensibilities 🙂
    
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    September 3, 2017 6:51pm
Captain Mainwaring

What is the ”Jacinda effect?”
Good question, maybe the following analogy will explain it.
Think of a National Geographic story of a barren, boring, unproductive desert. This is the NZ Labour Party, pre-Jacinda.
Along comes a once in 50 years downpour of rain. And all of a sudden all these beautiful flowers spring up out of nowhere. Very quickly the desert (and the Labour Party) is a Garden of Eden.
But a couple of weeks later the moisture has gone, reality sets in, the voters come to their senses, the sun beats down again, the flowers wilt and die, and the desert reverts to normal.
For the sake of our country, let’s all hope and pray that the second week has just passed.
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September 3, 2017 8:02am
- Paulus
  
  Maybe that the New Zealand voters should get a dose of Labour/Greens Left Wing Socialism.
  They appear stupid enough to want this new Joan of Arc as promulgated by the media.
  Let’s see what 18 months of Taxinderella will do to middle New Zealand – by then they will have forgotten how good life was.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:18am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    And then National spend another nine years repairing the damage, rebuilding and finally getting ahead to have it all torn down once again in a flurry of idiotic socialist idealism?
    
    No thanks.
    
    Two ticks blue, hold that line
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:35am
    - Southern Raider
      
      It’s unfortunately the cycle in NZ for the last 30 years
      
      Labour comes in, fucks over the productive sector, spends like a drug addict whose just won lotto and then hands back the corpse.
      
      National comes in gets stability, makes cuts to over inflated departments, starts getting surpluses, makes investments in long term infrastructure.
      
      Rinse and repeat
      
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      September 3, 2017 8:46am
    - Gabby
      
      Tulixpu, hold at whine.
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:04am
      - rangitoto
        
        SheTaxU
        
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        September 3, 2017 10:21am
Souvlaki

Happy Father’s day to whom it is applicable:-).
DPF has blogged on this before, but we have NEVER to my knowledge had a reply from the Labour Party on their stance going into this election on the onus of proof in rape allegations.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11289979
Little was the Justice spokesman in 2014 when he pushed this idea, and as we all know has recently been “reinstated”;-).
Can some member of the press please get an answer from Labour on this question ?
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September 3, 2017 8:02am
- Longknives
  
  Chilling Stuff- Labour claim to be ‘Tewwibly worried’ about Suicude rates in this Country yet just think how many poor blokes will string themselves up when they are falsely accused of Rape (And staring down Prison time)??
  There is nothing more vile or vindictive than a false rape complaint.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:14am
  - KKKKatee
    
    She’s bloody marvellous this Jacinda. She’s going to stamp out everything bad in this country and create a wonderful utopia. No more poor people, no more suicide once they get rid of the nasty Nats, no more homeless people, no more bashed up kids, no more bashed up wives/husbands. No more drug dealing, no more gangs. Everything’s going to be just wonderful under her watch. Bring it on!
    
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    September 3, 2017 10:08am
    - oldpark
      
      Not forgetting the 5,000 Syrian Refugees preferably Muslim,as promised by their joined at the hip running mate the Lie-bour/Green mafias.
      
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      September 3, 2017 11:35am
      - KKKKatee
        
        I certainly hope not.
        I don’t want this beautiful country of ours overrun with people who don’t want to assimilate to our way of life thank you. Too many of them here now!
        Under Labour watch there’ll be a Mosque on every street corner!!!! They’ll be demanding a bloody prayer room in McDonald’s soon! And Dame Susan will say we’ve got a problem if we complain about that! She’s obviously batting for the red team – Susan D that is.
        
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        September 3, 2017 2:54pm
    - RF
      
      KKKKatee….
      
      Stamp out everything…. that sums up princess Jacinta. A known foot stamper when things do not go her way….. also known as “screaming skull”.
      
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      September 3, 2017 1:22pm
      - KKKKatee
        
        What I want to know is how people like Jacinda can lie straight in bed at night. What’s in her DNA that makes her that way? Was she good at throwing her toys out of the cot? Is she delusional? Can she not see that the policies she’s proposing are alienating people – and she has to take ownership, and everything she says is “I”, “I”, “I”. One could call her very demanding….
        She certainly made the wrong call putting Kelvin Davis in as Deputy Dawg.
        I’d say she’s regretting a poor decision……
        So what other poor decisions is she making as the pressure builds?
        
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        September 3, 2017 3:00pm
- redeye
  
  Offended!!! Don’t you mean Happy Special Person day?
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:21am
duggledog

I’m now starting to accept we will most likely have a Labour / Green administration.

For this, I do blame National strategy because – by vacuuming up and partly becoming the centre left, the traditional centre left leadership went further left and now of course, all their true, far left fantasies will most likely become reality.

Arguably, National created the monster-in-waiting.

As I’ve said for years now, Sir John Key’s fabled ‘incremental radicalism’ took too long.

A lot of us (including Sir Roger Douglas?) always thought the better bet would have been to couple Key’s mighty political capital with the incidence of the GFC and CCEQ to quickly make the fundamental changes NZ so desperately still needs. Kiwis would have understood.

Maybe next time then. You know – when the foreign attaches are called upon to get whatever forex they can on their credit cards from wherever they are.

Still, one hopes that when all the silly mums who thought Jacinda was just so neat find apples are ten bucks a kilo and full of worm because of the Greens’ organic policy, and Labour’s water tax, the poisonous Ardern will be ousted in 2020.

I will most likely buy a farm in 2021. Offshore investors will be buying many, many more.
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September 3, 2017 8:02am
- Happychappy
  
  Is their anything more you want to blame National for, or us it you just like to whinge.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:05am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    No indeed Happy. You are so right. Let us pursue the ‘ostrich’ approach and continue to say that ~~Labour Lite~~ National are doing a spiffing job and so long as we keep on ‘believing’ and virtue-signalling it’ll all be alright.
    
    On the other hand, it might be useful:
    – to read the writing that is on the wall in front of us
    – learn from the 9 years of mistaken strategy from National
    
    that has led us to the unbelievable situation whereby English (a proven 21% loser) is able to snatch defeat from victory in the face of an over-toothed bimbo who is going to make what Rudd/Gillard did to Australia seem like an afternoon tea!
    
    How can you have faith in a leader who has turned a dead cert win into a toss-up with the odds leaning in favour of the three-legged Labour nag?
    
    The trick now is to do the hard yards to understand what went wrong and to be ready to take back the reins in 2020 after the inevitable cluster-fuck that Labour/Greens will deliver.
    
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    September 3, 2017 10:32am
    - Happychappy
      
      You get what you deserve DP and it won’t hurt me but in could make it harder for my children’s businesses and with people like you that from day one after Bill English was selected taken sides against him and made fun calling him the 23% man well thats fine just don’t come back whinging when the shit hits the wall with Labour and the coalition. You forget Bill English was one of the reasons we survived the last few years with his prudent spending and policy.
      
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      September 3, 2017 11:01am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        No – I never had a bad word to say about Bill when he was doing the job he was best suited for (Finance Minister and wise lieutenant to John Key). Bill was brilliant in that regard.
        
        But Bill had his shot as leader and he failed spectacularly. It still does my head in that Bill was put back in to a job that he did so utterly abysmally. You talk about your kids’ businesses – if they had an employee who had made a terrible mess of a management position, yet had redeemed themselves in a ‘doing’ role, wouldn’t you advise them against putting the employee back into a manager role?
        
        My concern with Bill as leader was the hubris of it all, at a time when the world is clearly in a mode of change with Brexit and Trump showing that the old virtue-signalling Labour Lite model was losing popularity with the electorate, a more centre-right, more economically nationalistic leader would feed the voters need for change more.
        
        Especially at a time when National were at the end of their 3rd term when voters were getting bored of the same old, same old. Putting the same old, same old forward as leader was a move of stultifying stupidity. Once the Jacinda machine got a roll on – it was obvious she was going to be competing the election. If there wasn’t so much hate for WOBH on this blog he was more or less predicting the Jacinda coup would happen!
        
        At this stage I think we’re on a bad track now and a Labour led govt is inevitable, and I think it’s going to be as bad as the disaster of Labour in Britain in the mid-late 70s. I just hope that there is a Margaret Thatcher at the end of the ordeal.
        
        My concern with Mr 21% is that this was all avoidable. The backbenchers who got bullied into supporting Bill are going to be unemployed as a reward for their weakness. John Key’s renewal was a farce – leaving National in the hands of chinless idiots who are as bad as Labour and we – the net contributing taxpayers, the ones who have more or less been ignored for 9 years, we are going to pay for the failed Labour Lite strategy.
        
        National emulated Labour so much, that the voting public are now aclimated to the socialism that Cindy is preaching. National made Labour acceptable again!
        
        How can you not be angry at them for putting us in this situation?
        
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        September 3, 2017 12:29pm
- mikenmild
  
  You are right about Key. Remember his 2020 Taskforce that came up with recommendations to achieve his widely touted goal of catching up with Australia? Quickly ditched, as the goal was deemed ‘aspirational’.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:15am
  - srylands
    
    I assume you are referring to the 2025 task force.
    
    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/2025taskforce
    
    No it was ditched because the recommendations were politically untenable.
    
    There was nothing wrong with the policy recommendations of the 2025 task force. If they had been adopted we would be now be a more prosperous country.
    
    Perhaps you could encourage Jacinda to read it.
    
    You could also encourage her to read the 2010 taxation working group report.
    https://www.victoria.ac.nz/sacl/centres-and-institutes/cagtr/twg/report
    
    That would save a heap of wasted effort. Maybe the media could ask her if she has read it before she commissions another one.
    
    Then the media could ask her if she has read the NZPC report on housing affordability and what her views are on all the recommendations.
    
    http://www.productivity.govt.nz/inquiry-content/1509?stage=4
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:48am
    - mikenmild
      
      I’m getting your point is that as the present government has done nothing in response to those sets of expert advice, what could we expect from a new government?
      
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      September 3, 2017 8:51am
      - stigie
        
        Good grief, it was just the other day so it seems that you reached 30000 comments Milky and now gone past 31000. A very solid effort indeed ?//
        
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        September 3, 2017 9:06am
      - Swifty
        
        I don’t know how he finds the time. Hell, I’ve been here since ’08 and I haven’t even cracked my first thou!
        
        Well done indeed.
        
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        September 3, 2017 9:18am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        And we, the royal we, thank you for the considered responses that are more acceptable than the mad woman’s shit scatter response exhibited by many high rollers here any day
        
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        September 3, 2017 9:44am
    - Peter
      
      To have a functioning democracy, a country needs a functioning media. If it is one “profession” I find more contemtable than politicians, it is journalism – both groups with a few rare exceptions.
      
      They seldom ask these obvious questions. So, can I assume that many are thick, corrupt and/or incompetent? Why is it so easy for lay members of the public to show up journalists?
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:27am
  - eandlbufe
    
    After 31000 comments still not a sliver of substance. Keep it up you just may reach utopia by the turn of next century and get more up votes than down.
    
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    September 3, 2017 2:18pm
- Chris R
  
  I do not disagree with your points in their entirety but what echoes down through the past nine years is John Key’s aspiration that NZ could (and would) catch-up to Australia. Here in 2017 I can barely discern Australia in my rear-view mirror. NZ has become a well managed country under the current government and a place for aspiration and enterprise far better defined than much of the rest of the Western World. I love this country and those who love it too.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:43am
  - mikenmild
    
    In what way has NZ overtaken Australia?
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:47am
    - srylands
      
      More efficient government. Better fiscal policy. More sustainable energy system.
      
      Anyway you don’t get to ask such a stupid question here. If you want higher gdp come here with policy ideas to do so. Every time you open your mouth it is about destroying wealth.
      
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      September 3, 2017 8:51am
      - mikenmild
        
        So you have you subjective impressions, but no actual data.
        And then you have the gall to suggest that I’m the one who has to do better.
        That’s just laughable.
        
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        September 3, 2017 8:58am
      - starboard
        
        Well, you are a dickhead mm.
        
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        September 3, 2017 9:06am
    - Simon
      
      When Labo got in 1999 they did s taskforce on technology. That got binned as well. National and Labo different sides of the same mong coin.
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:00am
      - Manolo
        
        National and Labo different sides of the same mong coin.
        
        Yes, they really are!
        
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        September 3, 2017 9:23am
    - Kimbo
      
      @ mikenmild
      
      In what way has NZ overtaken Australia?
      
      …So you have you subjective impressions, but no actual data.
      And then you have the gall to suggest that I’m the one who has to do better.
      That’s just laughable.
      
      Is a question like the days of capitalism vs communism. You could argue the stats and the theory, but you got the true answer by applying a simple – but not simplistic! – practical test: stand at the Berlin Wall and observe….which way the people jumped. Kiwis flooding back from Aussie – there’s your answer.
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:08am
      - realityczech
        
        The Anti Fascist Wall officially erected to protect the GDR from “Nazi’s”.
        
        We have the same sorts of lunatics here on KB.
        
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        September 3, 2017 10:10am
      - Paulus
        
        Whilst Kiwi’s are flooding from Australia they will soon be packing to go back.
        
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        September 3, 2017 1:19pm
    - rangitoto
      
      People voting with their feet.
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:27am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Who’s a pretty polly then?
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:33am
  - Simon
    
    Well managed country??? What the fuck
    
    Chicken shit economy, out of control immigration which has fucked the infrastructure of Auckland, that is schools, hospitals, roading, sewage. Housing is seriously fucked both economically and socially.
    
    Auckland shitty is out of control.
    
    Raising central government and local government prices in a completely benign inflation environment
    
    Then there is inter generation issue of wealth and poverty.
    
    National has enforced a low wage economy created all sorts of problems for not so well off leaving them wide open to someone as flaky as Arden.
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:07am
- Simon
  
  Comrades. John key one useless turd
  
  Worse than useless. Chicken shit economy, too much immigration, too much regulation and taxation.
  
  Arden, daughter that Helen never had, will be a fuckup as well John key on steroids. Sad
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:58am
  - Chris R
    
    You really are a deep thinker aren’t you?
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:04am
    - Simon
      
      Fuck just reported mikeenmong. Sorry. Bloody phone. Uptcked him as well. National types don’t like the truth.
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:10am
      - calendar girl
        
        You’ve obviously had a very bad night.
        
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        September 3, 2017 9:23am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Do you have a rational argument, or just expletive laden vitriol?
        
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        September 3, 2017 9:44am
- Shawn Herles
  
  “I’m now starting to accept we will most likely have a Labour / Green administration.”
  
  Based on the most recent polling, I’m not seeing that. A Labour/NZF coalition is looking more like a possibility.
  
  “I do blame National strategy because – by vacuuming up and partly becoming the centre left, the traditional centre left leadership went further left”
  
  This is a common refrain on KB, but I think it’s wrong, for a few reasons.
  
  For a start, any lurch to austerity and ACT style economic policies, especially in the wake of the Chch earthquake and the GFC, would have seen National tossed out after one term. Politics is the art of the possible. It is pointless and self-defeating to pursue policies far from where most NZ’ers are, or are willing to go at this point. For evidence, look at ACT’s polling. I have political ideas well outside the current mainstream. I don’t fault any political party for not espousing them because I’m realistic about what is currently possible. This is something old Redbaiter never understood. The reality as I see it is that National’s moderate approach, a bit “left” here, a bit “right” there, gave them three terms. Three terms is a success story by any measure.
  
  The other reason is that if National loses the election, it’s not because they have moved “left” on economics, it’s because they have had three terms, and four term governments are not the norm in NZ. Three term governments also tend to start looking tired. National has made mistakes. They dropped the ball on housing/immigration/homelessness, and have not done a good job of responding to those issues, either in policy or rhetoric. But those mistakes have nothing to do with your claim about moving left. Arguably, the opposite is true.
  
  The reality is that in a democracy governments change. Sooner or later the opposition is going to win an election. National was never going to rule for more than three or four terms at most.
  Some people on KB seem upset by that. I’m not. I would prefer a National led coalition, but even if National gains a fourth term, it will likely be their last for a while. I’m sanguine about that reality. The sky will not fall when it happens. The country will not be fucked or end up like Venezuela as some are claiming. Labour has ruled before and the country was not led to anarchy and ruin. There is much about Labour I disagree with and dislike. But they are not the Communist/Chavez bogeyman some are making them out to be.
  
  The day after the election, if Labour wins, the sun will still rise, I will still be able to fry up some bacon and eggs, and my wife will still be a cross between a goddess and a saint. ?
  
  You have to have some peace within, and with the world, and take the long view. Anything else is a short road to a heart attack and an early grave.
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:51am
  - RF
    
    Shawn…. very well put Sir
    
    I agree as it’s time we pruned dead wood such as Nick Smith etc…..
    
    Fresh start for 2020 or maybe sooner if Miss Anxiety steps down.
    
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    September 3, 2017 1:37pm
    - calendar girl
      
      …. and Michael Woodhouse ….
      
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      September 3, 2017 2:00pm
- GoVege
  
  SIR Roger Douglas?
  Don’t make me puke..
  
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  September 3, 2017 12:14pm
Paulus Gnome

I have found from many observations that our liberals are incapable of allowing anyone to have his own convictions and immediately answer their opponent with abuse or something worse – Fedor Dostoyevsky

I have a new library book
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September 3, 2017 8:06am
- SGA
  
  Well, Paulus, at least you have Kiwiblog as an island of fair-minded acceptance and dispassionate consideration in a sea of partisan intolerance and abuse.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:30am
  - Kimbo
    
    You forgot to do the 😉 emoji so you’ve incurred the wrath of Pope’s law.
    
    …
    
    Oh, yes, almost forgot…
    
    😉
    
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    September 3, 2017 10:11am
    - Kimbo
      
      Poe’s law!!!
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:29am
Northland Wahine

http://nzh.tw/11915339

Thank you Ms du Plessis-Allan for your totally fair minded, unbiased and factual piece this morning.

May the ugliness of your reporting continue.
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September 3, 2017 8:08am
- Disaster Area
  
  To be fair, this:
  ‘It’s like a reverse auction. It’s a battle to see who can give you what you’re already getting, but for a lower price.
  This is vote-buying, not vision-building.’
  
  and
  ‘Instead, they spent the week telling you how much free stuff they can give you.’
  
  Are pretty much what people on here have been saying all week.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:13am
  - Northland Wahine
    
    Agreed, however the only party I saw being out right accused of ugliness is the National Party, particular Paula Bennett. You would hope a “journalist” would be better at concealing her loathing.
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:20am
    - Southern Raider
      
      Maybe she’s pisseed because Barry has a secret crush on Paula
      
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      September 3, 2017 8:47am
    - oldpark
      
      Is that the counterfeit so called journalist ,the dumbo who got fired from Newshub for manufacturing blatant lies about her employer.
      Par for the course,she gets schooled nightly from the master of obfuscation,Barry Soper,who is so far left he should be based in Venezuela,he is employed by the National Party hating NZ Herald,and of course the now renegade Newstalk ZB,Which seems to daily broadcast fake news,and anything that they can twist,favouring the Lie-bour/Green cabal.They purposely denigrate Bill English and National Party.
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:38am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  She’s just parroting what her dopey husband said.
  God, the pillow talk in that house must be scintillating.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:16am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I got through the first few paragraphs then decided the neighbours cats liter tray needed attention, would be more interesting, a better use of my time, would improve my mind, be more rewarding, and provide greater value, knowledge and satisfaction.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:19am
  - RalphT
    
    And wouldn’t stink as much.
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:04am
- VicParking
  
  She must have to sit down and suck lemons for a couple of hours before hitting her laptop. There is no other way she could dream up that vile crap.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:27am
  - holysheet
    
    nah, looking at her husband every morning would have a bigger influence than any number of green lemons.
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:43am
- RF
  
  The ugly old crone will be sitting in front of her cauldron conjuring up some spells to ensure winnie has an everlasting life with choppers.
  
  I am presuming she is an import and not born here. Send her back to her tribe and get a refund on the 2 goats and lame camel.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:43am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Was she calling Winston ugly?
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:50am
  - waikatogirl
    
    No deplessy Allen
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:58am
    - oldpark
      
      Deplorable !
      
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      September 3, 2017 12:05pm
- Nookin
  
  My thoughts entirely. I think she should volunteer her services to the justice department as a profession juror. It will avoid the need for inconveniences such as evidence.
  It is a wonderful facility to be able to close one’s eyes to countless possibilities and focus exclusively on a solution that bests suits one’s own world view at any particular time.
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:05am
  - Piniwi
    
    Bingo. The brain can not distinguish reality from fiction that is to say conscious or subconscious thoughts. The trick is to not let the subconscious mind dominate or get what ails HDPA.
    
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    September 3, 2017 4:16pm
- Inandout
  
  She has to believe what her husband says, even if he started his theory after a few too many drinks. Bazza has been in the game so long he imagines all kinds of scenarios.
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:46am
- niggly
  
  Perhaps Heather (and Soper) should pause to consider whether it was the same party (allegedly Labour) that played a hand in taking down Turei to reduce the threat of the Greens’ popularity, also played a hand leaking Winston’s info and again for the same reason of reducing the NZF popularity.
  
  Both the Greens and NZF (as well as Nat’s soft voters) were increasingly stealing support away from Labour for months and months. Strangely enough, relatively speaking, that near-instantly reversed overnight recently …
  
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  September 3, 2017 12:25pm
duggledog

Happy chappy

It’s called General Debate. I’ll abridge how it works for you.

My position is that National created the monster we are about to have destroy our country by taking too long, being too soft and being too cautious.

National pushed Labour hard left, by assuming a large portion of the left.

Now, you rebut my position, with reasons why, not childish remarks. I would be glad to read them – I might even respond.

That’s how debate works. Imagine if Bill English turned to Jacinda Ardern and said ‘Is there anything else you’d like to whine about?’

Bill would be seen as a loser.

FWIW and you’ll be glad to hear it, I will now give both my party and electorate vote to National, for I have looked over the edge and do not like what I see.
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September 3, 2017 8:13am
- Happychappy
  
  It might help to think positively and maybe once in a while give Bill English and National some credit for what they have done and maybe some things could have been done better, but to constantly criticize every thing shows how shadow you are.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:32am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  “……” duggle
  
  That was the sound of your impassioned and well-reasoned request to Happy to make a point rather than fire shots ….. going straight over his head!
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:37am
  - Happychappy
    
    I made the point DF and I stand by it like you the full of shit comments made about Bill English are false and look at who led us threw some testing times for our economy and NZ as a whole would crucify your run with the hares hunt with hounds comments any day.
    
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    September 3, 2017 11:30am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Didn’t I help you with the uselessness of the ‘hare and hounds’ homily before?
      
      As noted above, yes National did well in the testing first 18 months of their administration. Since then they’ve morphed into Labour and they made Labour acceptable again.
      
      The last three years are a perfect example of how utterly useless National became – John Key used up his vaunted political capital not on something meaningful like:
      – ending WFF waste
      – ending free student loans
      but on his ‘little-man legacy’ flag-changing vanity project.
      
      They did a great job for 18 months, after that, there is very little to show for their time in office.
      
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      September 3, 2017 12:38pm
      - Happychappy
        
        I will leave the discussion at that but when Labour are coming up to another nine years in power just think about wanting to teach our National Party a lesson and not thinking about the consequence’s. I am looking foward to the comments in the coming years.
        
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        September 3, 2017 1:29pm
Paulus

I see that Du Pleesi something is sure that National stuffed Peters in releasing data on his stuff up.
I suggest that she should look further at her colleagues – one in p articular who “may” have received a phone call from an unlisted number from within Winz.
Sounds though Du Plessi is on ritaline or something trying to get a story as she has been useless for some time now so she can make up lies for which she is familiar.
Hope she gets the Cinderella Labour Government PR job over which these women are lining up all fighting.
She has better bitches than her to contend with in this game.
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September 3, 2017 8:14am
- Chuck Bird
  
  I know that senior police get a warning if someone tries to access MPs and certain other people and they would know who got or attempted to get access. Cam Slater says that the same system applies to IRD and MSD. That certainly makes sense to me.
  
  I would like to see a reason why Tolley was told by phone at the end of July and then in writing mid August.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:27am
  - KevOB
    
    Slater nonsense: WO’s imagination fills out his reality.
    
    The CIR is specifically disallowed from divulging information to anyone. That cannot be delegated.
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:20am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      No WO is right. The systems in question have audit trail functionality so every access of the information of an individual electronically can be tracked back to the system user who accessed it.
      
      It’s fairly standard in case-management systems.
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:38am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        yes – this needs down-ticking because we don’t want to have facts that disagree with our ‘feelings’ do we?
        
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        September 3, 2017 12:38pm
- KKKKatee
  
  Well, she’s part of Ardern’s generation – the only generation that matters at the moment. She’s most likely her new Facebook friend as well as a result of the interview the other day. Talk about flakey!
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:01am
Simon

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Have always said John key was bloody useless and the other thing was in time most national supporters would come to agree that he was useless.

A few National supporters can now see. There will be many more to come.
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September 3, 2017 8:15am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  It’s father’s day and you appear as a mother
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:41am
  - Simon
    
    Reminds me of
    
    The Iron Lady-Falkland Wars
    
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pAqJTumYakE
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:53am
Longknives

Happy ‘Special Person’s Day’ to any Gents out there with kids!
I would say ‘Happy Father’s Day’ but apparently that is offensive to the LGBTQ Rainbow crowd (or something- I can’t even keep up with what the shrieking Left are so constantly offended about these days)
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September 3, 2017 8:18am
- Northland Wahine
  
  Of course because none of them were the result of an egg AND sperm!
  
  Happy Fathers Day Longknives. May the wife bless you with a lovely breakfast and the kids touch base and thank you for a wonderful job you did raising them.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:26am
  - Longknives
    
    “May the wife bless you with a lovely breakfast..”
    
    Good Lord Wahine that will set The Feminists off!
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:31am
    - Northland Wahine
      
      The same feminist that would demand a cooked breakfast on Mother’s Day no doubt. 😉
      
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      September 3, 2017 8:42am
      - Piniwi
        
        Cooked by the numerous children from a range of sperm donors who will be asking “where’s our Father” today.
        
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        September 3, 2017 4:27pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      And end up with the bed full of toast crumbs!
      
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      September 3, 2017 8:43am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Oh damn,
    you’ve given me the guilts.
    
    Maybe I’ll put some toast on for hubby.
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:33am
    - GoVege
      
      Make the kids you pushed out for him do it Maggie.
      I am. 🙂
      
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      September 3, 2017 12:50pm
- tf78
  
  Why don’t they call it Donor’s Day – more apt for them.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:50am
- KKKKatee
  
  I’m beginning to feel very inadequate these days as I fear being a normal female is not ‘cool’. I’ll need to book some counselling sessions so that I can verbalise my fears and irrational thoughts about being a girl when it’s apparently so cool to be anything but. Life’s tough when you’re not seen to be one of the LGBTQ Rainbow gang……
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:04am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Get some of that regression physiotherapy where you rediscover that your father bathed you, tucked you in, read you stories about princesses on unicorns, kissed you good night and said he loved you, then you will be given a reason to hate the bastard and become a fully dysfunctional member of the LGBYwhoreallgivesashitaboutyourtwistedideasandfeelingscommunity
    
    Keeps the talking heads in untenable tenures for ever
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:32am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Yes. I really am confused. Not sure whether I should be wearing my husband’s Y-Fronts and he’s not sure whether he should be wearing my g-string! or my bra with socks rolled up and stuffed in them while he waits for the shots of oestrogen to work on him to give him ‘moobs’. Honestly, what the hell is the world coming to!
      Yeah and I really, really hate men too! Bastards, the lot of them.
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:58am
      - waikatogirl
        
        ???
        
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        September 3, 2017 10:04am
  - tf78
    
    The jokes on them as without their fathers they wouldn’t be here.
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:45am
- KevOB
  
  Happy ‘Special Person’s Day’ is offensive to me.
  I am father to 8, grandfather to 13 and gt grandfather to 6. I have 3 children aged between 10 and 15 yet to reproduce.
  
  I tolerate the LGBT community despite youth abuse during their recruiting round. But my tolerance is limited.
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:21am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Well thank you sir for being so fecund and for ensuring their are so many taxpayers in waiting to support us all in our dotage.
    
    True public service!
    
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    September 3, 2017 10:39am
  - GoVege
    
    Didn’t you ever hear about overpopulation Kev? 🙂
    
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    September 3, 2017 12:53pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    I agree with you KevOB. This sort of bull shit is already creeping into our society. I’m over having to be super sensitive to the LGBT people. The thing I find amusing about the LGBT people, I happen to know of young girls who’ve jumped on the gay bandwagon thinking they’re gay only to jump off it at some later stage. Also while we’re on the subject of intolerance, the word “Christmas’ is deemed to be offensive and now the term “Happy Holidays” is slowly but surely being introduced so that the non-Christians in this country are not offended. Stuff it! I will not give up using the term “Merry Christmas” on account of the perpetually offended. I would not, however, go to a Middle Eastern country and rub their noses in my beliefs and shout “Merry Christmas” or “Happy Easter” from the rooftops just to piss them off. That would be disrespectful and I’d more than likely be rounded up and chucked in jail or worse. If we don’t stand up to this PC nonsense, we’ll become strangers in our own country! So spread the word – “Merry Christmas” is in – “Happy Holidays” is out!! And I’d be very sad when my kids start wishing me a “Happy Special Persons’ day as well.
    
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    September 3, 2017 3:14pm
    - Scorpion
      
      KKKATe
      
      Praise the Lord
      
      Good to hear a Good Woman Finally
      on this God Forsake Godless Heathen Forum
      
      Would you be interested in modelling our
      New New New New
      
      New Zealand Flag
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z499WFdQN-4
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZOozDHL0LA
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:51pm
Disaster Area

So the media are going full tilt with a newly minted party leader, a new face that is in contrast to the dour, charisma free face of the government who has been in power for three terms. The new leader is shaking things up, smiley, personable and makes the establishment seem old hat and out of ideas.

Does anyone else see the parallels between the arrival of St John of Key and Jacinda?
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September 3, 2017 8:19am
- Chris R
  
  No not at all. John Key once had a genuine job with genuine skills. What ability does it require to have huge teeth and to yell “Transparency” while wearing dark glasses or “Comrades” while pretending to be the friend of the downtrodden? Jacinda is a new definition of phoney!
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:31am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The messiah is out this morning meeting and greeting at a Sunday market somewhere while shopping for a beret to complete the look
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:45am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      To look like Penny?
      
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      September 3, 2017 8:58am
      - sooty
        
        To look like her you would need six bottles of stupid pills.
        
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        September 3, 2017 9:44am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Nah – female Che Guevara – the teeth are the weapons. 🙂
        
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        September 3, 2017 10:39am
      - lifesgood
        
        Nah, she’d need a dead possum wrapped around her head to look like Penny.
        
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        September 3, 2017 10:43am
    - KKKKatee
      
      All smiles and jolly hockey sticks and all that….
      Honestly, it’s got to be exhausting out and about every day talking to every man and his dog. I note she’s looking a tad thin in the face. Even Bill said he’s lost some weight on the campaign trail. It’s gruelling stuff……
      When all they really want to do is have a Sunday lie-in like the rest of us.
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:08am
  - Disaster Area
    
    I’m not sure that the lack of ‘real world’ experience can be levied against Adern but not English when he has been in Parliament since 1990. Reading his Wikipedia entry it implies that he also was a policy wonk before entering parliament.
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:57am
    - Gabby
      
      He’s done very little else. Bit of holiday work shearing for pater and mater.
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:26am
      - lifesgood
        
        He’s worked hard on HIS OWN farm, you idiot.
        
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        September 3, 2017 10:44am
      - mikenmild
        
        Save up for his own farm on a public service salary, did he?
        
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        September 3, 2017 11:14am
      - Gabby
        
        You mean it’s not in a trust lifeisgone?
        
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        September 3, 2017 11:55am
Paulus

Sounds though Turei is on a comeback preaching her version of life.
She is holding meetings extolling her virtues and Green and sounds though she is assuming that when the Greens get to bed with Labour she will be readmitted.
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- mikenmild
  
  Readmitted to what?
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:33am
- Longknives
  
  I hear rumours Turei will be back as a ‘Major Player’ in the upcoming Labour/Greens Coalition from Hell.
  This despite The ‘People’s Princes’ telling us she would not feature in her Government!
  Never trust the Lying Left…
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:35am
  - mikenmild
    
    How would she be able to be a major player in a new government when she won’t even by an MP?
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:52am
    - Longknives
      
      Come now Mikey you are smarter than that..
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:35am
    - holysheet
      
      Hey you bros, I gave up the goods to get youse elected. Now its utu time. I wanna be a konsaltant to youse fullas. Make me da boss of youse tax bludgees group. Then all dem white Mofos will really have somting to bitch about.
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:49am
  - Psycho Milt
    
    I hear rumours Turei will be back as a ‘Major Player’ in the upcoming Labour/Greens Coalition from Hell.
    
    I hear rumours English is undergoing counselling for coprophagia. Funny things, rumours.
    
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    September 3, 2017 12:27pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @Psycho Milt
      
      Well if you hang around with people who talk bullshit/crap/ or poos (pu), then you will hear bullshit/crap and poos.
      
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      September 3, 2017 12:40pm
  - KevOB
    
    She still has to get a seat.
    
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    September 3, 2017 2:47pm
- KKKKatee
  
  I heard guy on Maori Tv the other night saying that it was unlikely she’d win the seat she’s hoping for. Said that she was polling way behind. So on that note, I think we can be safely say she won’t get back into Parliament. Wonderful!
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:53am
- Ruahine
  
  And when she is not in the bed she will be back at the trough.
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:24am
VicParking

I will loose my pension increase next year
When I sell my rental house to boost my retirement the tooth fairy will take most of the profit.
The price of dairy will increase, no more cheese or real butter.
Dollar cross rates will dive and prices of everything at the Warehouse will go up…
My two boys are already talking of heading overseas to work.
My local body rates will go up because of the living wage
My electricity bill will rise because Maori will own the water.
I will have to have a photo of President Clark on my lounge wall
And to Top ( no pun) it all I wont be able to find a plastic bag to put over my head to end it all…
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September 3, 2017 8:42am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Seems about right; one could always read the Stranded as that will usually cause ones head to implode or explode, 50 50 most times
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:48am
  - srylands
    
    I still can’t figure out why I was banned at The Standard. ?
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:55am
    - stigie
      
      They hate you at the Stranded srylands because you are a righty that talks sense and doesn’t fit very well into their echo chamber, that’s why !~
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:15am
    - KKKKatee
      
      I’d take that as a compliment. I poked my nose in there once and I couldn’t understand what the hell they were saying. Sounded like a foreign language to me………
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:15am
      - starboard
        
        It’s called North Korean comrade..
        
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        September 3, 2017 9:28am
      - Tarquin North
        
        Being banned from the standard like quite a high percentage of us just means you are capable of independent thought which is frowned upon over that way.
        
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        September 3, 2017 9:41am
      - Gabby
        
        You must’ve got too used to the Hongkong accent.
        
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        September 3, 2017 10:30am
    - Lance
      
      Also they will find out who you are and you will be one of the first lined up against the wall and shot when they get into power.
      Bru hu hu ha ha ha
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:23am
    - mandk
      
      Never mind. Take it as a sign that you did something right.
      
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      September 3, 2017 11:40am
- RF
  
  VicParking. If you do manage to find a plastic bag what size shoes do you take.
  
  Pity to waste them.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:52am
  - starboard
    
    If that’s the case, can I have your ones RF?
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:30am
    - RF
      
      Hey. I intend to hang around. Might pick up a new wardrobe.
      
      Should it go tits up I take a size 10.
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:00am
      - starboard
        
        Bah..I’m a size 12..suppose I could cut the toes off, yeah that’s what I’ll do.
        
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        September 3, 2017 1:58pm
    - mic
      
      Then you’ll be done for inheritance tax.
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:44am
  - VicParking
    
    Can’t afford shoes. Have a pair of odd flipflops you can have. I’ll leave them under my bed. Third park bench on the right Myers park.
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:32am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Jeeez, you may have no shoes but have some standing man, there is a waiting list for that bench . . . .
      
      And, avoid the plastic bags in that area, you may well find one of your roomies has pooped in it first.
      
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      September 3, 2017 9:50am
      - RF
        
        Paulus Gnome.
        
        Beggars cannot be choosers although I do agree about the park bench. If Labour hear about it, it will be included in their housing policy.
        
        If the plastic bags are big enough just cut leg holes in them. Mobile toilet…… poop while you plod.
        
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        September 3, 2017 10:10am
    - RF
      
      VicParking….
      
      Flip flops will do.
      
      Now getting down to the nitty gritty. What size are your grundies.
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:03am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Doesn’t have any.
        
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        September 3, 2017 10:43am
      - VicParking
        
        Kiwi’s right. He stole mine last night. He was last seen running up towards K’road with them on his head. John Banks gave me his but I sold them to some English teacher. Said he wanted to DNA test them or something.
        
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        September 3, 2017 11:03am
    - stigie
      
      Nothing like that in Hagley Park so im told, just a variety of gloryholes and transgender and what else that floats your boat !~
      
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      September 3, 2017 10:12am
- GoVege
  
  Ah…but thanks to Labour, you’ll still be able to access a beach, free of charge, to drown yourself at, Vic 🙂
  
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  September 3, 2017 12:31pm
MCos

Happy Father’s Day.

My father passed away many years ago and I miss him every day.
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September 3, 2017 8:49am
- Happychappy
  
  MCos : I am in my late sixties and my father died young and I still think of him most days, but also wish he had the chance of his Grandchildren bringing him a father’s day present that I’m lucky enough to enjoy every year.
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:12am
  - RF
    
    Happychappy.
    
    A nice thought spoilt by a sicko that’s down ticked you.
    
    Obviously some butch feminist.
    
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    September 3, 2017 1:54pm
- Disaster Area
  
  Mine moved out to NZ about two years ago. He’s 80 next year and since he moved here we’ve spent time building a greenhouse, a new workshop, taming the jungle that we’ve turned into a garden and we’re spending our weekends getting underneath my Land Rover to help me sort it.
  
  Reading posts like yours doesn’t make me appreciate him any more, they make me wish you could have what I do.
  The only thing is that he intends to vote for Winston…
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:22am
  - Disaster Area
    
    Oh, and he’s on his way over to help with a blocked toilet.
    
    He either loves me or is really desperate to get out the house. Knowing my Mother…
    
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    September 3, 2017 10:33am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      The messiah is the go to person for toilets, having installed one herself, she will know all the tricks
      
      I wonder if Clark has figured out what the chicken salt shaker is for and why the cut up newspaper is the only paper available, could it be the messiahs in depth experience in the world of Commerce showing through or a foretelling of how things are going to pan out?
      
      Didya see what I did there? Well didya didya?
      
      I made one of those cute funny remarks that makes autocue readers smile at each other in a knowing way when one of their trained and professional reporters makes a ‘funny’ in their face to camera piece!
      
      Fing brilliant and clever or what!
      
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      September 3, 2017 1:53pm
- GoVege
  
  Mine too and me too, MCos.
  Contrary to what they say, it doesn’t get easier with time.
  
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  September 3, 2017 12:59pm
Happychappy

I wonder how long it will take the media to wake up to the fact that the tax cut National promised are well and truly spent or will they try to promise another major policy will be covered by the tax cuts also. This money has been promised to Housing by Grant Robertson, Education by Jacinda Ardern and Health by Dr David Clark and no Journalist has challenged how this can happen.
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September 3, 2017 8:53am
- fluffykiwi
  
  Labour are cancelling National’s planned tax cut from the budget.
  They are not only spending that cancelled tax cut but increasing taxes through “targeted” taxes. Just not being honest about where the targeted tax will go, very wishy washy, was the environment, may be spending what is left on roads. How can they say “what is left”. If there is going to be money left over then they are going to tax too much as the problem is not as bad as they claim.
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:35am
- VicParking
  
  The money will come from Borrowing.
  They will Borrow to pay back the borrowing.
  Labour finances 101.
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:37am
  - Disaster Area
    
    And where is all the money for National’s spending going to come from?
    
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    September 3, 2017 10:25am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      A growing economy.
      
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      September 3, 2017 11:08am
      - Gabby
        
        I think you’re entering the realms of fantasy there Jones.
        
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        September 3, 2017 11:51am
      - Piniwi
        
        Sorry Captain but that will soon become a “was” if the time for a “change” really has been reached. We know from history that is how it works. It is so disappointing to even consider we need to sustain some more hard times to get back again to where we are now.
        It has not come about without a tremendous amount of hard work as well as many sacrifices and just as the future is looking Rosie we get a person with a “vision”. Seem to remember a corporal called Hitler had one of those.
        
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        September 3, 2017 5:02pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Well done VP as it seems you too noticed that. A week is a long time in politics but one of Taxinda’s earliest mention of additional borrowing started at $2 billion. Labour Finances 101 also includes they will again borrow to “invest” in the Super Fund. We haven’t heard much mention of that one. Yet!
    
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    September 3, 2017 4:51pm
- KevOB
  
  Poto Williams just visiting our neighbourhood has confirmed that the budget changes will be scrapped.
  
  Labour are adamant that details will have to be after the election.
  
  Capital gains tax seems to be an extension of the bright line test to 5 years to catch speculators. Capital losses? What are those?
  
  Labour are seriously indignant about water going to foreigners without local royalties.
  
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  September 3, 2017 2:52pm
Manolo

An ailing RINO continues to fight:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/john-mccain-slams-trump-in-italy-recommits-to-americas-role-in-world/article/2633280

Senator John McCain said that America is still committed to traditional alliances and values, despite doubts that have emerged due to the “actions and statements of our president.”
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September 3, 2017 9:02am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  His approval rating is lower than bubonic plague. Soon to be joining his BFF Hillary in obscurity.
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:41am
  - MCos
    
    Not according to this Gallup poll from a month ago
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/215897/mccain-favorability-healthcare-vote.aspx
    You might be thinking of his mate, Mister Flake, who is way behind any Democratic if a vote was held now.
    Mind you it might not come to that if Sheriff Joe beats him in the primary
    http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/345129-poll-flakes-approval-rating-in-arizona-at-18-percent
    
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    September 3, 2017 11:14am
tom hunter

A nice thought for Father’s Day…
We Need More Texas Attitude (and less PC).

I was especially taken by this passage:

The heroism shown by ordinary Texans has been a great antidote to the prejudices expressed by well-off liberals towards ‘deplorable’ Americans. The politically correct view is that white folks are irredeemably racist, and the country is inescapably divided by race, yet the images from Houston told a different story: a black deputy sheriff wading through floodwaters with a white child in each arm; a white SWAT officer carrying a Vietnamese-American woman and her baby through floodwaters; three Asian and Hispanic constables moving an elderly woman in a wheelchair.

As it happens, this was not exceptional: as anyone who has travelled through Texas and the South will know, social interactions between people of different backgrounds are casually pleasant. Unlike PC liberals, most people don’t see life through a prism of racial categories. In response to Harvey, we didn’t see the ‘diversity’ of essentially different people – we saw citizens helping citizens, Texans helping Texans.
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September 3, 2017 9:13am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Slight contrast to Godzone where we have a tad too many helping themselves for themselves . . . .
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:37am
- Kimbo
  
  From what I understand, the “old South” died years ago. Instead, it is places like Chicago, New York, Los Angeles and host of other cities that have the majority of racial division issues. But, hey, if the intelligentsia determine that the most important issue facing black…sorry. people of color is Confederate flags and a few statutes…
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:17am
- kowtow
  
  It’s the “social interactions” between young blacks every weekend that are the most violent in the US, but the MSM generally refuse to report that.
  
  Possibly more shootings on an average weekend in Chicago than in Baghdad.
  
  http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/map-chicago-weekend-shootings-tracker-for-july-14-17/
  
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  September 3, 2017 4:28pm
Manolo

The words of a Hollywood liberal, a whinger, and a proponent of multiculturalism who recently fled Italy.
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/08/george-clooney-twins-interview

Clooney took the opportunity to open up to the press about his transition into fatherhood at the age of 56, his “angry” new film, and President Donald Trump.
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September 3, 2017 9:19am
Monique Watson

We just shipped tactical nukes to South Korea to park ouside the DMZ while simultaneously cancelling a trade deal with South Korea.
Because we want to make properly manufactured condoms in American factories to make America Great Again.
And serve it up to Putin for the endless gobbing on about singing Kumbaya with North Korea.
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September 3, 2017 9:37am
- nasska
  
  …..” properly manufactured condoms in American factories”…..
  
  Tiny little condoms for all the soft cock, anti Trump SJWs. 🙂
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:46am
  - stigie
    
    You’ve just offended all the righteous softcock snowflakes Nasska..?
    
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    September 3, 2017 9:59am
    - Piniwi
      
      A consolation for them is with constant tugging and puling they can get them over their heads.
      
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      September 3, 2017 5:08pm
- Paulus
  
  Russia has and is still providing the Rockets to North Korea.
  They have been doing this for years.
  North Korea may give them their own name but they are still from Russian parts.
  Putin will do anything to embarrass the US ( and so will anybody else) hence his current comments against the US.
  
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  September 3, 2017 1:36pm
  - KevOB
    
    The rockets parts are from the Ukraine–now under USA influence.
    
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    September 3, 2017 2:58pm
waikatogirl

Do journalists all get together and decide in a mass decision which party should get elected? They are blatantly all reading from the same page and have deemed it is “Time For A Change”, or the status-quo alternatively should prevail. Where are the individual voices, those who with opposing views other than following the general consensus.

It is obvious that it does not suit the medias agenda to ask politicians they support the hard questions. What is Jacinda Adern’s background, what are her core values (apart from being positive and transparent), who is her partner and why is he not on the campaign trail supporting Cindy? Journalists assume the general public are not interested and not aware of the nuances of politics and must be herded towards the medias chosen nirvana, as only they KNOW best!
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September 3, 2017 9:46am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Shake hands with the great unwashed, smile eat food you wouldn’t give to your dog to embrace cultural diversity, lie, tell another lie, look interested in what she says, or go fishing.
  
  Hmmmm tough choice.
  
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  September 3, 2017 9:53am
- Disaster Area
  
  I can’t remember Dr Scanlon giving interviews that frequently.
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:30am
- KKKKatee
  
  The media are completely mesmerised at the thought of the lovely Jacinda running the show. They can’t think straight that’s for certain.
  And yes, where is her partner? What’s his background. Any skeletons in his closet (apart from a threesome) that we should know of? I mean, he could well be a member of the Klu Klux Klan for all we know and I think we have a right to know that. And, I am not persuaded by what Journalists have to say. I am adult enough to make my own decisions about people and I currently read Jacinda Ardern lacking transparency and do not believe a word she says. I’m even more worried about the other Labour politicians who could potentially become Cabinet Ministers if the citizens of this country don’t come to their senses and realise what Labour want to do to us all. Frightening stuff. Socialism on it’s way………
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:15am
  - sam green
    
    Plenty of skeletons in yours though.
    
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    September 5, 2017 4:02pm
doggone7

Ya gotta give credit to Wayne Rooney.
“Gambling, prostitutes and boozing: The dark side of family man Wayne Rooney”

That got this off the main story on-line:
“There’s no doubt in my mind that it was the National Party who ordered the hit on Winston Peters over his superannuation overpayments.
It’s hard to believe otherwise.
At least two ministers and a political operative in the party appear to have known Peters’ private information when none of them should have.

And once it has information, the National Party has a reputation for using it against political opponents.”
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September 3, 2017 9:58am
- Peter
  
  “There’s no doubt in my mind that it was the National Party who ordered the hit on Winston Peters over his superannuation overpayments.
  It’s hard to believe otherwise”
  
  She’s supposed to be a journalist, not a gossip columnist. Where are the cross-checked facts?
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:01am
  - doggone7
    
    She’s supposed to be whatever her employers want her to be and she wants herself to be.
    
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    September 3, 2017 10:10am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    If you damage a company with untruthful statements you can be sued.
    I presume HDPA has proof, otherwise her claims are damaging, and she should be sued.
    
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    September 3, 2017 10:12am
    - doggone7
      
      I’m sure her company will look after the side they have to look after.
      
      The week started with the hit job on Winston Peters. There’s nothing as ugly in politics as a takedown attempt.
      
      Is saying, “There’s no doubt in my mind that it was the National Party who ordered the hit on Winston Peters over his superannuation overpayments” a claim? It could be damaging but at this stage of that event absolutely minimal. And big deal anyway, media is carrying damaging stuff all the time with insinuations an opinion. This site for example.
      
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      September 3, 2017 11:07am
- Happychappy
  
  Is why over 50% of people polled after this crime you suggest National portrayed say they don’t want Peters in any high position like Deputy PM or Finance Minister of any Coalition. Maybe the Voter has lost trust in the miracle man.
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:14am
  - doggone7
    
    Maybe it’s because the poll asked them if they wanted him to be “in any high position like Deputy PM or Finance Minister.”
    
    Maybe they should have not stipulated Deputy PM or Finance Minister. Maybe they should have stipulated Minister of Foreign Affairs, or Racing, or gambling.
    Not wanting him as Deputy PM or Finance Minister doesn’t mean they don’t want him in some other role. The generalised “any high position” is nonsense.
    They put a specific number on it and it sounds like it has some scientific or sensible authority.
    An exercise in politics as entertainment to suck in the simpletons. Which worked.
    
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    September 3, 2017 1:51pm
krazykiwi

A question about polls. Do pollsters call mobile and/or landline numbers?
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September 3, 2017 10:00am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Pretty sure it’s virtually all landlines.
  That’s why they don’t pick up the Chinese and Indians who are big Nat supporters.
  Hope I’m right anyway.
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:23am
- waikatogirl
  
  Only landlines kk. Those of us with only cellphones don’t get a say.
  
  Missed 2 Nat voters here. I’m hoping National voters are the silent majority and the polls are wrong!
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:23am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Plus you must take in to account that there is a new sport – trolling pollsters.
    
    If any pollster get through to me – I’m a devout Labour supporter who is thinking of party voting Greens to maximise their support.
    
    In related news – fake news outfit CNN are ditching their long-time polling company (apparently it wasn’t a good look for CNN to be getting the poll results showing what they wanted to see – and they’re blaming the polling company for rigging the polls to show the result CNN wanted).
    
    Funny how they lying, cheating, colluding MSM whores aren’t reporting this important piece of news!
    
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    September 3, 2017 10:46am
- krazykiwi
  
  Mmmm, landlines-only could go either way. Plenty of the ‘vote-for-her-shes-a-pretty-young-woman’ crowd have never seen a landline.
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:43am
  - lifesgood
    
    Yes but they won’t vote either. They’ll be too busy brunching.
    
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    September 3, 2017 4:47pm
fluffykiwi

A thought for the day, supposedly Winston will be the kingmaker and will choose to go with either labour or national.
For those thinking of voting NZ First to keep National “Honest” think very hard.
Winnie wasn’t looking too chipper the other night. Who is the next in line in NZ First. with the changes of leaders taking place you could get Ron Marks or Shane Jones taking Winnie’s place in the not too distant future.
Look at Act as a support partner. The Deputy is talented, excellent speaker and grasp of things. Those following her appear to be strong candidates as well. not air heads.
I am not a NZ first supporter because of Winnie, but his followers do not appear to have even a simple grasp of politics, well Shane Jones does seem to know where the “trough” is.
David Seymour did not take the “baubles” when offered them in the last parliament by National, a slightly more honest politician than some me thinks as others are really in it for the “baubles”.
The country would be worse off with Winnie supporting labour as he could well do, oh the uncertainty.
With Act you know they will support National and could well assist in a slightly more right wing outlook, albeit it with younger faces which is what we need going forward.
Not “comrades” assisted by a drunk.
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September 3, 2017 10:02am
- Gabby
  
  And Coqsie more will do his darnedest to see the family home passed on to the kids (sooner rather than later).
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:11am
holysheet

If you wanted proof of how much the tooth fairy lies here it is.
“Labour is planning make it harder for landlords to give tenants the flick in order to sell investment properties for capital gain if it becomes Government”
In other words, the CGT policy has been decided and they will prevent landlords from getting rid of tenants. By not selling their properties before liabore gets to introduce their CGT, these landlords will be caught and have to pay the tax.
What better way of reducing the price of homes, than to force more properties onto the market prior to the introduction of CGT?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11916127&ref=rss
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September 3, 2017 10:06am
- Chuck Bird
  
  Holy, you should get more up ticks. The more they make things difficult for tenants the less private rental will be on the market. I had a rental than needs work partly because of a tenant. I will be selling it. I can invest the money in the share market here and overseas. I have some bonds and I have shares in a couple of syndicated property trusts.
  
  Long term I will have as good return as on private rentals. The difference is I will not have any hassle.
  
  Taking away the 42 day notice will mean some tenants will get 90 notice when they may not have had to.
  
  The last flat I sold in Mt Eden I did not know if the buyer would be an owner or a landlord. I told the tenant this. If it was a landlord they may want to keep the tenant on.
  
  If the 90 day was in force. How could I sell and leave the tenant in? I would have to give the tenant notice and then wait say 45 days before marketing it. If I started right away what buyer would want to wait 90 days?
  
  If a good tenant cannot find a property in 42 days how likely will they find one in 90 days.
  
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  September 3, 2017 5:33pm
Swifty

I realise Grant Robertson is very much out of his depth these days, I mean come on, Finance Minister? Snigger.

But I didn’t realise he was such a dork as well:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11911698

This was a few days ago – apologies if this has been previously raised.
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September 3, 2017 10:17am
- Longknives
  
  Pathetic.
  I used to think Robertson was an okay guy but his efforts of late have me thinking otherwise
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:34am
- KKKKatee
  
  Robertson is a complete and utter idiot. And to think Ardern was really, really pissed off when Robbo didn’t win the leadership vote – Little got it instead. So, Ardern is thick as thieves with a very inadequate finance spokesperson for Labour. He’ll be thinking right now that all his birthdays have come at once at the prospect of Jacinda becoming Camp Leader. Because they’re ‘besties’ she’s letting him write the proposed tax policies. What an omnishambles to be unleashed on us all……..
  Two ticks blue
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:07am
- starboard
  
  Grant Robertson plays with his partner Alf’s penis ..dunno why he’s so concerned about a ponytail.
  Sodomite.
  
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  September 3, 2017 12:24pm
  - starboard
    
    Can anyone actually imagine fat gay boy as Minister of Finance? Could you imagine him running the NZ cheque book! What a complete and utter disaster.
    
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    September 3, 2017 1:41pm
    - doggone7
      
      Can anyone actually imagine taking your opinion seriously when what you write shows such a level of nastiness or of having serious problems?
      
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      September 3, 2017 1:55pm
      - realityczech
        
        Can anyone actually imagine taking your opinion seriously when what you write shows such a level of pettiness or of having serious problems?
        
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        September 3, 2017 1:58pm
      - starboard
        
        You must be a busy body sticky beak school teacher.
        Foxtrot Oscar.
        
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        September 3, 2017 8:28pm
Scorpion

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://www.politicalislam.com/
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September 3, 2017 10:23am
Monique Watson

They’re hitting on Rooney for gambling, prostitutes and drinking.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11916249

Other incidents have seen him photographed staggering out of nightclubs, urinating in the street, falling asleep in taxis, smoking, drinking and gambling heavily on his own in casinos. On one occasion, he was filmed being knocked out during an impromptu boxing fight in a friend’s kitchen. On another – last year – he gate-crashed a wedding reception at the luxury hotel where the England squad was staying.
Where’s the crime? That’s exactly what happened at a Lion’s tour I was party to in the 90’s. It’s what you do before becoming a boring naysayer. Go on tour and Drink, smoke, fight and fall asleep.
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September 3, 2017 10:38am
- Gabby
  
  What godforsaken yankistani shithole are you immured in where pissing in the street isn’t a crime?
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:44am
- Longknives
  
  Never knew you toured with the British Lions Monique?
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:45am
waikatogirl

David Clark, Liarbor say 1 in 4 can’t afford to go to the GP.

Is that really correct, or is it just so easy for those with entitlitis to say? while having discretinary spending “I can’t afford to go to the GP”?

Do 50% of NZ’ers really need to pay only $8 to go to see the GP once or twice a year, or are Liarbor just bribing kiwis with a free ride.
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September 3, 2017 10:44am
- oldpark
  
  Means three out of four can ,and the other quarter ends up in accident and emergency ,maybe they may have a broken toe nail ,or even a cold. Most are too lazy to make a doctors appointment,for their children,even though National brought in free doctors visits for children. Wonder what part of that does the ex parson bible basher Clark, not want to understand.
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:09am
- mikenmild
  
  Mus be true, otherwise why would the National government be promising to make it so much cheaper (for those for whom it won’t be free)?
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:10am
- krazykiwi
  
  Liarbor say 1 in 4 can’t afford to go to the GP
  
  Everyone in NZ can afford to go to the GP. However 1-in-4 don’t plan for it, and instead spend their income and/or taxpayer-supplied benefits on ciggies and/or lotto and/or booze.
  
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  September 3, 2017 12:35pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    AND know if they whinge enough someone will take up their story and “pimp” it in the newspaper.
    Priorities assist when you have children, or indeed in most aspects of life.
    
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    September 3, 2017 1:18pm
lifesgood

I am sure I didn’t dream it, or maybe I did, but on Stuff there was an incredibly positive article about Bill English’s visit to Northland. Absolutely full of praise for how he handled it and spoke to young people up north. My Lord, wonders will never cease. Let’s hope the tide is turning.
On the other hand what a totally mean spirited person this Emily Simpson (partner of Steve Braunias) is. In the SST today she writes a Father’s Fay editorial under the guise of giving men something meaty to discuss on Father’s Day. Then goes on to list the articles :
1. Helen Clarke’s battle to break the men dominated glass ceiling at the UN
2. Three women discuss why it is harder for women to attain power in our society.
3. An article by some woman about racism and white privilege.
What a disgrace. Would it have been too hard for her to just wish Father’s a happy day, a lie in and fun times with their families.
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September 3, 2017 10:54am
- Shawn Herles
  
  “In the SST today…”
  
  I think I see your mistake…. 🙂
  
  I stopped reading the SST over a decade ago. Hideous PC rag.
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:01am
- doggone7
  
  Let’s hope the tide is turning?
  To the media being absolutely full of praise for English?
  To his way of handling PR visits?
  To the way he speaks to young people?
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:27am
  - Colville
    
    doggone.
    I noticed the same.
    2 articles mildly supportive of English and questioning of Cindy.
    
    If the media starts to question Cindy she will sink like a stone, tho its less than 3 weeks now!!
    
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    September 3, 2017 12:15pm
Hugh Pavletich

… ESSENTIAL READING …

HURRICANE HARVEY: A VIEW FROM A RUGGED COMMUNITARIAN … LEO LINBECK … NEW GEOGRAPHY

http://www.newgeography.com/content/005730-hurricane-harvey-a-view-a-rugged-communitarian

• by Leo Linbeck III

Narratives are not necessarily built on facts; they’re built on stories, pictures, graphics, and videos. Ideally, we want our narratives to be aligned with the facts; but that doesn’t always happen.

Here is a synthesis of some of the predictable narratives being spun in the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Harvey from such places as The Washington Post, Slate, The Guardian, Newsweek and NPR: … read more via hyperlink above …

• Leo Linbeck III is a husband, father of 5, CEO of Aquinas Companies, Executive Chairman of Linbeck Group, a Houston-based institutional construction firm, Founder and Chairman of Fannin Innovation Studio, a biomedical startup studio, and Lecturer at Stanford Graduate School of Business. He was also the Founding Chairman, and is currently the Vice Chairman, of the Center for Opportunity Urbanism, a Houston-based think tank.
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September 3, 2017 11:10am
Maggy Wassilieff

Not often that I read a Sunday Star Times Promoted Comment article that is worth repeating…

but this one in praise of a solo dad is worth it
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/96345182/my-father-taught-me-to-tune-an-amp-wire-a-sound-system-drive-a-480-bhp-car–and-how-to-love
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September 3, 2017 11:13am
Scorpion

https://www.jihadwatch.org/

http://gatesofvienna.net/

Historical Fact the Siege of Vienna was lifted on
SEPTEMBER 11th 1683.

The call for Global Jihad 9/11
SEPTEMBER 11th
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks

Has been Answered

31676 deadly Terror Attacks since

WE ARE AT WAR
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September 3, 2017 11:21am
realityczech

National double down on their losing streak.

$82 million to crack down on meth and gangs. It will work as well as all the other crack downs have and boost the prison and legal bills by way more than $82 million. That is the down payment. And it won’t work.

If this is the best National can do we are in the shit.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96405356/live-on-the-campaign-trail-for-sunday
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September 3, 2017 11:44am
- Colville
  
  Hopefully the $82mil will go to a well equipped taskforce of hard, mean cunts and they will be given freedom to bang heads to get some results.
  
  Its not tiddlywinks ya know!
  
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  September 3, 2017 12:00pm
  - realityczech
    
    Great. If you were accused of drug dealing that would be great. We will assume you are guilty.
    
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    September 3, 2017 12:03pm
    - Colville
      
      If the taskforce was doing its job they would know 100% if I was dealing so yeah I would deserve all I got.
      
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      September 3, 2017 12:08pm
      - realityczech
        
        Great. We can sack all those judges then. No need for trials. Lets hope you and your family are the first.
        
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        September 3, 2017 1:31pm
  - Gabby
    
    It’s not wwf you know colvile.
    
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    September 3, 2017 1:09pm
- nasska
  
  ….”Police would be able to search the houses and cars of known gang members with a previous serious violent conviction at any time with no warrant”…..
  
  I’d hazard a guess that the vast majority of gang members would qualify on the violence issue but WHO classifies them as “known”. If it’s the boys down at the local station I can see abuses by the thousands on the horizon. Subjective in the extreme.
  
  But good on them for the treatment initiative.
  
  …..”$40 million would go toward 1500 additional drug treatment places and community treatment”…..
  
  Addicts become pushers to fund their habits. Treating their addictions has the potential to save others from the curse of meth.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96442150/national-party-announces-82-million-crackdown-on-methamphetamine-use-supply
  
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  September 3, 2017 12:54pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Crack down seems appropriate. What do you suggest that they do instead?
  
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  September 3, 2017 2:44pm
  - realityczech
    
    Oh the old “we must do something” fallacy/strawman.
    
    How about we just have mass executions of people the cops are suspicious of cause you know… we must “do something”.
    
    This is yet another power grab by the cops and if you think it will only effect gang members then you are a blithering idiot.
    
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    September 3, 2017 5:58pm
srylands

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11916281

“Key points:
• Abolish no-cause terminations of tenancies.
• Abolish all 42-day notice periods (allowed in limited cases) for 90 days.
• Limit rent increases to once a year, with a formula for increases included in tenancy agreement.
• Ban letting fees.
• Offer $2000 grants to landlords for insulation and heating.”

I wonder if anyone in the Labour Research Unit has briefed them on the problem of ‘unintended consequences’.
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September 3, 2017 11:45am
- brett68
  
  Labour going hard out to crash the property market, capital gains and now this.
  
  No one in their right mind would want to be a landlord if Labour gets into power.
  
  Also begs the question who’s going to build the homes to house people if no one wants to be a landlord?, no buyers no homes.
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:50am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    The state, this is obvious, being done in a very devious way.
    Then when the state i.e. the taxpayer is the landlord tenants will have homes for life.
    Roll on labour your true colours are showing more and more every day.
    I despair of those who will vote for this party because of the young lady fronting. It is the backroom enablers who are really scary, but our 20 – 35 year olds probably are too busy on their smart phones to remember Helen 1 and Helen 2, dare I say it Cullen who didn’t want knighthoods, but then happy to take one, two faced if ever there was one.
    
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    September 3, 2017 12:34pm
- Colville
  
  I was just posting the same drivel.
  
  Ban letting fees? so how will a landlord cover this cost? just bump the rent to get it back in the first 3 months? 10% should cover it.
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:57am
  - KevOB
    
    Those will be regulated too. Back to the 50’s.
    
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    September 3, 2017 3:06pm
- Piniwi
  
  Think you forgot the other big one. “Tenants will be allowed to carry out alterations providing the property is restored to it’s original condition when they leave.” The examples they give is hang a picture or paint a wall? Sure landlords will love that as it is such a struggle already to achieve that.
  It will be harder to get tenants out than decontaminate the P soaked properties.
  It is quite amusing that many slum landlords are card carrying union members if the modest sampling from Nelson is a fair example.
  
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  September 3, 2017 5:38pm
realityczech

National have just announced:

– New police powers to search your car and house at anytime.
– Police approval to work at a port, airport or post office.
– Lots more police dogs to attack you.
– That people accused of things have less legal rights.

I welcome our new overlord Jacinderella.
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September 3, 2017 12:00pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Meth probably explains your behaviour well so things would be true for you at least.
  
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  September 3, 2017 12:54pm
Scorpion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg_V–S19vk

Jizya

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya

The Tax with Humiliation on
Non-Moslems
or Kaffirs.

This Tax will be implemented after the other
Illegal Tax on Non Moslem Food
called the HALAL Tax.

This Halal Tax Allows them to replace or take over
the Entire political System.

Which National and Labour will allow
them to do, with help from your..TAXES.

National’s dishonest attempt to take down
our British Flag is part of a deliberate assault
on our Culture.

<
At the federal level in Britain, there can be no Christian prayer in government meetings.
At the local level in Manchester, England, a government meeting opens with Islamic prayer.
A young man wrote on his body, Stop Muslim Rape Gangs. This in reference to “Asian” rape gangs in the media. He was arrested for inciting racial hatred.
The West has always failed to call Muslims, “Muslims.” Instead they call them Arabs, Saracens, Turks, Moors, and now the Brits call them Asians.
The British spend their political capital to denigrate their own culture and elevate Islam.
We are seeing the collapse of Britain due to a civilizational war with Islam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg_V–S19vk

It is War a

CIVILISATIONAL WAR

If we loose the Political and Ideological struggle,
if they continue to under mine our CIVILISATION.

No Civilisation will exist on the Planet Period.
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September 3, 2017 12:10pm
Huevon

ACT education policy gives good teachers the opportunity to earn a salary on par with an engineer, doctor or lawyer, if they opt out of collective bargaining.

The almost universally hostile reaction shows how dangerous the teaching “profession” is in NZ. These losers are educating the next generation.
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September 3, 2017 12:22pm
Peter

“She said Labour would also require all rental properties to be warm, dry and healthy to live in. It would offer landlords a grant of $2000 for insulation and heating work.

“These measures will help stop our kids get sick and dying of preventable diseases that have no place in a country like New Zealand.”

Uh huh.

So, 2K makes a place warm, dry and healthy, does it?

I think you’ll find that figure gets under floor insulation for 55meters ( if it is difficult to get access), 70sq meters if not.

Where is the rest coming from Cindy?

Rent increases.

Best let “the people” know. Transparency, and all that.
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September 3, 2017 12:44pm
- krazykiwi
  
  $2k makes a place warm, dry and healthy, does it?
  
  No. It just ensures that the current cost of making a home warm and dry goes up by $2k.
  
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  September 3, 2017 12:51pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    In 10 years time there will be an outcry over all the properties rotting from wet insulation; not to mention the hoardes of kiddies suffering from respiratory problems.
    http://www.interiorsandsources.com/article-details/articleid/10940/title/wet-insulation-problems-and-solutions
    
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    September 3, 2017 6:44pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  I grew up in an uninsulated home, no carpet in the bedrooms, a draft coming through the floor boards. Mother would throw open the windows come morning, rain hail or shine (she was a smoker).
  I didn’t get any sicker than normal colds that kids get.
  Fresh air is the secret, blows away the damp. Making your home airtight keeps all the moisture that humans give off overnight.
  Check out your bed, if not aired it has a cold and damp feeling, (when you have been away).
  It is simple and doesn’t cost any money (yet) FRESH AIR and plenty of it.
  
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  September 3, 2017 1:16pm
  - kowtow
    
    You were lucky!
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAdlkunflRs
    
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    September 3, 2017 4:16pm
Jack5

Stand by for an influx into NZ, as refugees, of Muslim Rohingya people, being driven out of Myanmar/Burma.

Our liberals, who have called for allowing in more (Muslim) refugees, have been turned blind eyes to the appalling suffering of Christian minorities in Myanmar/Burma over 50 years.

Our liberals have been blind to the discrimination against Christians getting into the official refugee chain in the Middle East. (This has been documented by NZ Catholic journalist Pat McCarthy.)

New Zealand’s liberals don’t give a rat’s arse about Christian refugees.Thanks to these liberals, NZ discriminates passively by accepting the UN’s big role in choosing refugees, so gets Muslims.

The conclusion is that our liberals prefer Muslims over Christians. Either that, or the Liberals have been brainwashed by the PR machine funded ultimately from Saudi Arabia.
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September 3, 2017 12:57pm
- kowtow
  
  Bangladesh ,where the Rohingya come from ,won’t take them .So why the hell should anyone else?
  
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  September 3, 2017 4:12pm
fluffykiwi

WO blogmaster is sure one hell of a bitter individual. He loses the plot with his bitterness towards Bill English. He loses his arguments with the bitter streak shouting loud and hard. I am surprised that his followers blindly go where he leads. Do they personally know Bill English, do they know that what WO is spouting is fact. Can they think for themselves?
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September 3, 2017 1:37pm
- Brigitte
  
  I amuse myself by trying to think how he’d react if Bill came out and said he’d changed and was now a Jew.
  
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  September 3, 2017 2:09pm
  - realityczech
    
    He was shouted a free trip to Israel for his pro Jewish rabid zionist views. So Bill would have his full support.
    
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    September 3, 2017 3:58pm
- lifesgood
  
  WO is a fruit loop. His hatred for BE is beyond all reason. We all know that but why on earth he has idiots blindly following him, hanging on his every word, agreeing to vote for Winston just because WO does beats me. I guess it shows how easy it is for cults to get followers.
  It doesn’t matter to these morons that BE is a thoroughly decent individual with a good sense of humour and a strong track record. Stupid is as stupid does.
  
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  September 3, 2017 3:47pm
  - realityczech
    
    You were fine with him when had the same Pro National bias you do. What changed ? He has always been a sleazy liar.
    
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    September 3, 2017 3:56pm
    - lifesgood
      
      You talking to me, Rc? No never been a follower. Has he ever had a pro national bias? Do tell.
      
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      September 3, 2017 4:53pm
- lifesgood
  
  Sorry, accidental downtick…should be uptick.
  
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  September 3, 2017 3:49pm
Michael

I can’t understand why some oldies are worried about an inheritance tax. I mean I am an octogenarian and it doesn’t worry me two hoots.
After all, you can’t take it with you, and if your children end up getting a bit less so what? They are lucky to get anything.
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September 3, 2017 1:57pm
- Longknives
  
  You’d rather your life’s savings go to some South Auckland Solo Mum (with ten kids to assorted Gangmembers) than to your own family Michael?
  
  You certainly are drinking the Reverend Jacinda Kool-Aid Comrade!
  
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  September 3, 2017 2:45pm
- holysheet
  
  Sounds like you are a poor ased prick with nothing much to leave anybody.
  Nothing to stop you leaving all your meagre assets to the govt in your will if it makes you happy. But leave the rest of us to leave our assets to who ever we wish, without the fucking govt getting any more.
  
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  September 3, 2017 3:04pm
- Manolo
  
  What a fool!
  
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  September 3, 2017 3:05pm
- calendar girl
  
  No kids to leave your surplus cash to, eh Michael?
  
  So you want a government to have the power to:
  > Tax my earnings throughout my working / earning life; then
  > Tax the interest earned on my savings throughout my lifetime; then:
  > Tax my remaining capital when I die and leave it to beneficiaries under my Will.
  
  Now all you need to do is to set the level of inheritance tax to meet the needs of your socialist Utopia. Will 50% be adequate? Or do you need to make it, say, 65-75% to teach me the folly of my hard work and conservative spending habits?
  
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  September 3, 2017 3:36pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Death duties are incredibly inefficient, as they can mostly be planned for and manoeuvred around with a bit of work – but at cost of money lost to accountants and lawyers. Cryptocurrencies like bitcoin offer one easy avoidance means.
  
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  September 3, 2017 4:42pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  So Jacinderella should get the lot? Why not go the whole hog? When I die they get everything and my descendants get nothing? That’s what the bastards want in the end.
  Fuck off
  
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  September 3, 2017 6:11pm
stigie

There is another tax that the rabble have not ruled out…….

Gift duties !~
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September 3, 2017 3:11pm
Longknives

This is so far-fetched you wonder if it is Satire-

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11916289

“He was under such stress that he died,” the man on the video said. “He died because he was forced to go to work.”

How about that? Those heartless bastards at WINZ are murdering people now..
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September 3, 2017 3:18pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Saw my dick off. Seriously?
  
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  September 3, 2017 6:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Eco-terrorists attack Nick Smith

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/338591/protesters-rub-rat-poison-in-nick-smith-s-face
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September 3, 2017 3:52pm
- stigie
  
  I’ve seen a lot of National bill boards defaced in Nelson Maggy where the others have not been touched.
  I’m appalled by the rabble we have in Nelson but not offended !~
  
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  September 3, 2017 4:01pm
  - kowtow
    
    Here in Dunners there’s one for the Greens still calling on vote forTurei , in her heartland! On SH 1.
    
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    September 3, 2017 4:08pm
- realityczech
  
  They also threatened his family. The funny part is it is radical eco-terrorists who are promoting the mass poisoning.
  
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  September 3, 2017 4:01pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    You are trying to wind me up..
    can’t stay and play ’til I’ve done the ironing.
    
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    September 3, 2017 4:04pm
    - starboard
      
      Whats an iron ?
      
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      September 3, 2017 4:59pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The latest fashion instrument
        
        http://hw-static.worldstarhiphop.com/u/pic/2016/09/nSA1YbLTQR4l.jpg
        
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        September 3, 2017 5:39pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Something you do irony with I guess
        
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        September 3, 2017 6:15pm
- kowtow
  
  These pricks really are doing their best to destroy our democracy.
  There’ve been attacks on Woodhouse’s offices and Smith’s been subject to abuse before . Then there was the loon who axed Helen’s office.
  Assaults on Brash, Key and Joyce.
  
  What a great way to force our representatives to backing off public contact .
  
  And our MSM bleat on about violence in US politics?
  
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  September 3, 2017 4:05pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  And we say that the rats and stoats et al are feral.
  
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  September 3, 2017 5:19pm
- KKKKatee
  
  Same pack of bastards from the rent-a-mob gang who were very happy to support Homebrew singing a song about killing John Key and raping his daughter no doubt. Crazy loonies.
  Which reminds me, our lovely Jacinda’s favourite NZ band is Homebrew and I’m assuming because she didn’t speak out about the disgusting song they wrote then she supported their motive.
  Now, if the boot was on the other foot and a song was written about her suggesting the same vile action, the leftwing Sisterhood would be marching down Queen Street calling for radical action i.e. “chop off their balls, those nasty, nasty men” and rightly so I concur.
  Yeah, nah.
  
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  September 3, 2017 5:46pm
skyblue

Well if Labour get in it might make some National MPs to become domanatrixes to keep income levels up.
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September 3, 2017 4:20pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Surely Labour men wouldn’t need help?
  
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  September 3, 2017 5:20pm
Pongo

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4847498/School-anti-obesity-initiatives-useless-study-finds.html

Looking forward to Jacinda announcing our version soon to general applause and adulation.
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September 3, 2017 4:29pm
Manolo

Our own Gareth Nutter TOP Morgan would give his seal of approval. He is a mate of his goverment, after all.
https://apnews.com/edd942c7344c43a7bf12ce94ddef0cba/North-Korean-leader-inspects-new-H-bomb

North Korea conducted its fifth test last year in September. In confirmed, the latest test would mark yet another big step forward in North Korean attempts to obtain a nuclear-armed missile capable of reaching deep into the U.S. mainland.

It came hours after North Korea claimed that its leader has inspected the loading of a hydrogen bomb into a new intercontinental ballistic missile.
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September 3, 2017 4:52pm
- starboard
  
  Seriously..this fat little despot with a funny hair cut needs to be taken out asap.
  
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  September 3, 2017 4:58pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    The thing is to get the Chinese to take him out.
    
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    September 3, 2017 7:42pm
  - SteveRemmington
    
    Meteria’s gone bro.
    
    Let it go!
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:22pm
- cha
  
  Oh boy…
  
  #BREAKING Seoul says North Korea may have conducted nuclear test: Yonhap— AFP news agency (@AFP) September 3, 2017
  
  #BREAKING Japan government says confirms North Korea conducted nuclear test— AFP news agency (@AFP) September 3, 2017
  
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  September 3, 2017 5:46pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Hmm, things could get decidedly iffy if NK is using Li6 to develop a two stage weapon. Further, if they do have some of South Africa’s nuclear know how, they could able to produce some alarming weapons. This link has some sobering reading…
    
    http://isis-online.org/isis-reports/detail/north-koreas-lithium-6-production-for-nuclear-weapons
    
    The use of Li6 and Li7 in the Castle Romeo detonation produced a blast that was much larger than predicted. Theoretically, there is no upper limit to the yield that can be produced, however, there are practical limits to the size and weight and therefore deliverability of the device. Glad I live here in Auckland….
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:12pm
Peter

Are Labour really this stupid?

“No letting fees”

How about “no wages for politicians for a week”. After all, it’s not fair we have to pay them to do their work.

Letting a house costs money. Time. Paper work. Interviews, credit checks, showings. All. Costs. Money. If it is not charged as a letting fee, it gets built into the rent.

A cost is a cost is a cost.
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September 3, 2017 5:05pm
- Colville
  
  Peter.
  Yes Labour really are that stupid.
  Yip a cost …. etc
  So that cost just gets built in and rents go up.
  
  If I were a domestic landlord (shudder oh god noooooo!) I would be advising of a 15% rent increase if Labour are elected.
  Its just getting in before the rules change.
  
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  September 3, 2017 6:01pm
- Doubledimp
  
  The family in the article say they have spent thousands on bonds, but bonds are transferrable as long as you don’t do damage to the property, Are One News exaggerating the situation?
  
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  September 3, 2017 6:24pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Why have this family moved rentals 4 times? No mention of being their choice, or whether they were asked to leave. As usual no details to the story, just the usual tug of heart strings, such as the kids having to change schools, and it has cost 4 new school uniforms we can’t afford.
    
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    September 3, 2017 7:26pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Um “cost” is not in the Labour dictionary – never has been
  
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  September 3, 2017 6:25pm
Digmen1

If I was Trump I’d give China one week to react. After all they tld NK to stop testing!

The USA and its allies then need to impose immediate full sanctions on everything in and out of NK.

China needs to accept it, and enforce it. There are hundreds of trucks going across the border every day.

Then the USA and SK and Japan need to enforce the blockade.

So what if the NK people starve. That is the only way to starve the military.
Drop leaflets and tell them if they stop making nukes, then the sanctions will be lifted.

Fut Yung Un will never listen or talk and all the while he gains time.
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September 3, 2017 5:08pm
Digmen1

I see beneficiaries want WINZ to lighten up!

They need to toughen up!

These people complain that if they work they do not get enough money. Well welcome to the real world. Yet they want workers taxes to pay fro the to sty home all day!

See what happens in the Philipines or Bangldesh if you are poor and useless! – Try the local rubbish tip.

Stop breeding and get educated and have some pride!
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September 3, 2017 5:13pm
- KKKKatee
  
  Hear! Hear! I’d love to see a Government grow some balls and say “Sorry – but we can only afford to fund 2 of your sprogs from now on. Any more spogss and you’ll have to find another way of supporting them all by yourself. Amen”. There was an article in the Herald a week or so ago and an Island family with 9 frikken kids complaining about not being able to get their own home. Geez Wayne!
  And whose fault is that? Not mine – I didn’t force either of them not to be responsible and not use contraception!
  
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  September 3, 2017 5:40pm
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    If that family was still in the islands, do you think everyone would be out there fishing and collecting coconuts for them to stay home and breed!
    I don’t think so.
    
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    September 3, 2017 8:01pm
Happychappy

National 43.9 %
Labour39.4%
Who says Bill English can’t win
Two ticks blue
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September 3, 2017 6:06pm
- NK
  
  And that’s Reid Research which favours the left.
  
  Two ticks yellow.
  
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  September 3, 2017 6:18pm
publicwatchdog

WHISTLE-BLOWER ALERT!!

The influence, IMO, of paid PR shills at the highest levels of Radio NZ.

See for yourselves the National Party connections…..

Subject: Radio New Zealand : Board of Governors

http://www.radionz.co.nz/about/board-profile

Chair of the Radio NZ Board.

“Mr Griffin is a director of the public relations consultancy, Fraser, Griffin, Wood.”

https://www.national.org.nz/news/2016-06-03-appointments-to-radio-new-zealand-board

“Richard Griffin of Nelson is a highly experienced former journalist.

He served as Chief Press Secretary and Senior Media Advisor to Rt Hon Jim Bolger and was RNZ’s longest serving political editor.

He has been instrumental in the strategic planning of organisations in New Zealand’s primary production and tourism sectors and the pharmaceutical and banking industries.”

http://solidbusinessnz.com/company/1944292/fraser-griffin-wood-limited

Company Info
Fraser Griffin Wood Limited was formed on May 18th 2007, so this company age is now ten years and three months and eighteen days.

It is listed in the register as a NZ Limited Company.

Fraser Griffin Wood Limited registered office is located at 34 Talavera Terrace, Kelburn, Wellington , New Zealand.

Current Fraser Griffin Wood Limited directors are:

Ian Geoffrey FRASER (appointed at May 18th 2007),

Richard Andrew GRIFFIN (appointed at May 18th 2007),

Susanne Mary WOOD (appointed at May 18th 2007).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Fraser_(broadcaster)

“Born in Dunedin, Fraser became well known in New Zealand as a television interviewer, working on current affairs shows from 1974-1984.

He then moved to public relations, becoming the chairman of Consultus and fronting a series of advertisements for the Bank of New Zealand.

After heading projects for New Zealand Expo in Brisbane and Seville, Fraser became chief executive of the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra.

He moved to TVNZ in April 2002.

His wife, Suzanne Snively, is an economist and managing director of strategic and economic advice company, MoreMedia Enterprises.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sue_Wood

“Suzanne Mary (Sue) Wood, born in Onehunga in 1948, served as the president of the New Zealand National Party from 1982 to 1986, the first woman to hold the post.

She had been a teacher, journalist and swimming coach.

Her term as president included the latter years of the Third National Governmentof Robert Muldoon, the 1984 general election, and the associated constitutional crisis.

Wood stood as the party candidate for Onehunga in the 1980 by-election and in the 1981 general election; she was then teaching at Onehunga High School.

In 2002 she stood in the seat of Mana, being defeated by Labour MP Luamanuvao Winnie Laban.

Although she held a relatively high party-list ranking of 19, National’s poor overall result in the 2002 election meant that she failed to enter Parliament.

She was the campaign manager for Auckland Future in 2016.[1]”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11224018

(Matthew Hooton)

“His wife, Cathy Wood, is the daughter of former National party president Sue Wood.”

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Penny Bright

2017 Independent candidate for Tamaki.

Exposing the $1.6 BILLION Tamaki GENTRIFICATION $CAM.
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September 3, 2017 6:11pm
- Longknives
  
  I don’t mean to be rude Penny but- Have you ever visited Planet Earth??
  
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  September 3, 2017 6:15pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
    Keep ‘biting’ 🙂
    
    Proves, IMO, I’m on the right track …
    
    Kind regards
    
    Penny Bright
    
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    September 3, 2017 7:25pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Why do you end up “kind regards”? You don’t mean it.
      
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      September 3, 2017 7:43pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Passive aggressive?
        
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        September 3, 2017 7:58pm
  - Manolo
    
    Has Kim Dot Com’s funding run out? 🙂
    
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    September 3, 2017 7:52pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Why do you think that Kim and Penny are close?
      
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      September 3, 2017 8:49pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Fuck. Here I am in Talkeetna, Alaska and this silly bitch starts the nonsense.
  See?
  I Spray and Walk Away
  Rubbish stays
  I walk away.
  Go take your pills mad woman
  
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  September 3, 2017 6:32pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
    Which FACTS don’t you like?
    🙂
    
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    September 3, 2017 7:22pm
    - nasska
      
      You wouldn’t recognise a fact if it ran up your leg & bit you on your smelly old backside. 🙂
      
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      September 3, 2017 7:38pm
      - stigie
        
        You mean snatch Nasska..?
        
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        September 3, 2017 7:59pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Thanks for that visual nasska!! ?
        
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        September 3, 2017 8:10pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Fuck off you old hag!
  
  Pay your rates! Disclose all forms of your own income!
  
  You are a full time ‘whistle blower’ and campaigner for ‘open books’ and transparency, you claim it is your work therefore the donations you receive are income and must be declared!
  
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  September 3, 2017 7:01pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
    Oh dear – seems I’ve struck a nerve?
    
    Calm down you poor old apoplectic thing 🙂
    
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    September 3, 2017 7:23pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      What don’t you stop ripping off people?
      
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      September 3, 2017 8:48pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your disease-ridden orifices…..
  
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  September 3, 2017 7:38pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Rates-defaulter alert.
  
  Fuck off you mad woman.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:58pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
    Lovely to have such engagement from my Kiwiblog fan club! 😉
    
    Here you go folks – some more dots to join ……
    
    Ian Fraser’s wife – Suzanne Snively.
    
    http://www.transparency.org.nz/Governance
    
    Transparency International NZ
    Chair: Suzanne Snively
    
    Former PricewaterhouseCoopers Partner, now Managing Director of MoreMedia Enterprises Ltd, economic strategist Suzanne is currently an Independent Director on the New Zealand Army Leadership Board, Health Research Council, New Zealand Opera and inaugural Director of the Maori Whanau Ora Commissioning Agency, Te Pou Matakana.
    
    She’s a Patron of Vincents Art Workshop and came to New Zealand as a Fulbright Scholar; was previously a Ministerial appointee to the Whanau Ora Task Force; and Director of the NZ Reserve Bank, R A Hannah and Co, Whitireia and WelTec Community Polytechnics, Wellington City Council’s Capital Holdings, Agri-Womens’ Development Trust and others.
    
    Suzanne has been a regular analyst and commentator on NZ’s economic position for over 30 years, including commentary on corruption levels. [Registry of Interests].
    
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    September 4, 2017 12:07am
- mikenmild
  
  Penny
  
  I am really not sure what to make of your revelations. You appear to be claiming that Richard Griffin’s well-known background as a PR consultant affects his suitability to chair the board of Radio New Zealand. How?
  
  You further go on to look at the background of his partners in that PR firm: Ian Fraser and Sue Wood. How is that relevant to the governance of RNZ?
  
  Ian Fraser’s wife, Suzanne Snively is well-known for her involvement in Transparency. Is that what gets your goat? Two degrees of separation between the chair of RNZ and our leading anti-corruption campaigner?
  
  Suzanne Snively is highly respected for her work with Transparency International. In direct contrast, your efforts to be an anti-corruption crusader attract nothing but derision and scorn.
  
  Your stupidity is only matched by the arrogance.
  
  Good luck for your campaign to be Tamaki MP.
  
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  September 4, 2017 6:56am
Jack5

Daigou shopping, with up to a hundred thousand students and other Chinese buying for mainland China customers, is big business in Australia.

With the Chinese population in Auckland, is daigou shopping also big business for NZ retailers and brands?

The South China Morning Post on daigou shopping:

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/business/article/2109396/daigou-down-under-chinese-shopping-trend-taking-australia-storm
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September 3, 2017 7:11pm
rightoverlabour

I have there a real conundrum around WO and his website. But occasionally there is good stuff there.. (although the letter is probably not as it purports, but the sentiments stand)

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/09/heres-letter-editor-regarding-african-students-attending-oxford-england-demanding-statue-cecil-rhodes-oriel-college-taken-ground/#more-331400
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September 3, 2017 7:26pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/96451943/ilam-candidate-raf-manji-proposes-500space-car-parking-building-beside-christchurch-hospital

Old forked tongued Rif Raf Manjina is cranking up the spin machine!

This muppet voted in favour of removing 36 car parks from Hereford street.
His only concern at the time was the million+ dollar cost to remove them however that reflection lasted all of 5 seconds in the council chamber, and he made it clear that he was happy for them to go, if it expedited Otakaro’s (govts) plan to replace them with fucking gold plated bicycle lanes.

Raf Manjina: “Social Entrepreneur”

Slippery character.
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September 3, 2017 7:33pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  Cam Sauce (Stuff commentator) sums up Manjina’s antics:
  
  “Ahh, the magical fiscal surplus that always falls out of the sky around election time. Manji is using council resources to try and further his electoral prospects. Does anyone else find themselves at the edge of the toilet bowl, this is politics at its worst ??
  
  PS Guess where Manji’s $1billion investment fund spending spree is coming from, you guessed it (it really was’t that hard) “Bend over ratepayer” !!
  
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  September 3, 2017 7:50pm
Manolo

It’s time to take the madman out:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41139445

The secretive communist state said its sixth nuclear test was a “perfect success”, hours after seismologists had detected an earth tremor.

Pyongyang said it had tested a hydrogen bomb – a device many times more powerful than an atomic bomb.
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September 3, 2017 7:50pm
- Brigitte
  
  The trouble with attacking him is that you initially get a nice warm feeling, but soon after you find your efforts rather Seoul-destroying!
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:17pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  At ~300kT was smaller than many fission bombs dating back 60 years. This is not a convincing demonstration of thermonuclear tech.
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:35pm
burt

So Bill’s letting Paula Bennett go full Rodrigo Duterte.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/96447979/is-national-buying-into-the-doctrine-of-donald-trump
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September 3, 2017 8:10pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Nice little smear from a lawyer ignorant of US law.
  From the Left is he?
  
  Edit- I see in one of the comments the Lawyer is described as a ‘failed Labour candidate’.
  
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  September 3, 2017 8:27pm
- Piniwi
  
  You really do not understand how stupid that post is. Duterte should be a great example of what can happen when voters get whipped into a frenzy by a biased Media party. Over 10,000 dead from his war on drugs and still counting. Most recently they dragged off an innocent youth and shot him without a care in the world.
  Toughening up on gangs in NZ is long overdue but in such a PC society it is a challenge and the intended changes are a starting point.
  
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  September 3, 2017 11:39pm
RF

Go for it Paula.

We now have snow flakes sticking up for the poor misunderstood gang members.

These creeps are up to their sweaty armpits in organised crime and that gutless tosser Gilbert who writes touchy feel books about these pricks is upset.

What a disgusting little syncophant.
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September 3, 2017 8:30pm
nasska

It is thought that in the event of a nuclear war the World would be set back a thousand years.

The report goes on to say that this would not apply to Muslims.
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September 3, 2017 9:09pm
Ross12

From the “just when you thought it could not get any crazier” department
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/09/03/department-store-removes-boys-girls-labels-clothing-gender-stereotypes/
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September 3, 2017 9:27pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Thank goodness my children didn’t have to put up with that crap and neither will my grandchildren, perhaps because there was never any doubt about their gender.
  Despite my lone best efforts, I successfully nurtured two male chauvinist pigs and a strong independent heterosexual woman (also chauvinist).
  If they had turned out differently I would have blamed their father’s genes. 😉
  
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  September 3, 2017 10:25pm
Manolo

The price of having a neighbour from hell:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/02/north-korea-shaken-by-strong-tremor-which-could-signal-a-weapons-test-reuters.html
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