General Debate 21 September 2017

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krazykiwi

Every Labour-led government since 1960 has led New Zealand into a recession.

Recessions cost jobs, reduce health and educational opportunity, and lead to societal breakdown.

If that’s what you want, vote for Change™, and see it unfold again.

If you want stability – even if there are things you wish were better – then two ticks blue.
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September 21, 2017 8:00am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  RNZ banging on about the poll of polls like saying 47% will choke them
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:03am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Tomorrow they’ll have to come clean after Newshub confirms the trend. By the way Winnie is in trouble in the North too.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:13am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      That news made my day. The sooner the stammering, smarmy, drunken Dwarf and his suit are consigned to political oblivion, the better.
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:19am
      - redeye
        
        Where are all the other NZ First pollies? We see picture after picture of Bill, Cindy and Jimmy with all their MPs standing behind them.
        It’s surprising that NZ First haven’t yet rolled out the charisma and magnetic charm of Tracey Martin, Ron Mark & Darroch Ball?
        
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        September 21, 2017 8:46am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Redeye, Winnie has always been a one man band (party). Tracey can console herself that she is still Chairwoman of Mahurangi College Board of Governors.
        
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        September 21, 2017 8:57am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Yep; Winston is coming third, trailling the Nats and Labour candidates by a large margin
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:54am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Newsflash!!!
        Winnie is living proof of that old one, that when things are going pear, the whole world is against you…..
        
        Winnie & his coach with supporters turned up at a bus stop in front of the PwC building on Quay Street in Auck. They had just set up and an AT employee got them to move on because they were in a bus stop for Birkenhead services.
        
        Cheered our lunchtime viewing up!
        
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        September 21, 2017 1:21pm
      - lofty
        
        Not according to Fran O’Sullivan on Leightons program this morning..so there 😉
        
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        September 21, 2017 1:53pm
    - Manolo
      
      It would a very good day for NZ when the venal Mr Peters disappears from the political landscape.
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:57am
  - oldpark
    
    Yes notice after last nights CB poll on TVNZ ,with NZs knowing what is best for NZ.
    Today the Lie-bour/Green mafias attack dogs has been unleashed. Using ZB news room,full of their sycophants pumping out fake news. Behind it all is the Australian owned NZ HERALD. Masters of lies and fake news being a speciality.
    Was a master stroke by the Commerce Commission to veto an amalgamation with their other partners in slime the Fairfax owned Dom Post. Every day both Newspapers pump out fake news and lies. They forever put the boot in a very Succesful National Government. Bias by both news outlets borders on sedition. Lets hope when the Appeal by both Australian owned newspapers is reheard it gets declined.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:59am
- Positan
  
  Labour “teams” have been consistently shown to lack the necessary talents to render sound government – that they place no priority on acquiring those necessary talents.
  
  Their union masters direct them to whatever “looks as though it will do” and the “rock-star” status accorded Taxinda is ample demonstration of their dyed-in-the-wool, but nevertheless fallacious, belief that a new paint-job will carry the day when trying to sell their derelict “old shed.”
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:33am
  - softail 1450
    
    the trouble with our politics is that there is no left and right, only left and lefter ,we are all frickered with a cancerous slow moving never ending slide to the left, no matter which of the useless bastard parties is in power nothing is going to change……
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:44am
    - krazykiwi
      
      I agree. ACT is further to the left today than Labour was 30 years ago. Our left-right spectrum has been panning left after since.
      
      I hate to say it, but the only thing that can arrest this slide is a total meltdown in the style of Greece or Venezuela.
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:40am
  - Paulus
    
    If Cinderella gets in with the Greens and Maori then the Unions will invoke their rules and Angry Andy will be back running things.
    The Union rules come in the day after the election and Cinderella was never endorsed by the Unions – only Robertson and Clark took the opportunity to shaft Angry during the Union constiution allowed 6 weeks before an election when Caucus could rule.
    
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    September 21, 2017 2:04pm
- kevn
  
  Most new, younger voters have never experienced a downturn. Naive. Being sold a dream.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:53am
starboard

Voting Labour means voting for a return to unions and strikes all around New Zealand. Remember the days of the ferry strikes….

Vote National.
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September 21, 2017 8:00am
- starboard
  
  Phil Twyford is a smarmy arsed bully.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:23am
  - billmurray
    
    starboard:
    Two ticks blue for your straightforward sentence on Twyford.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:52am
    - Fisiani
      
      Ardern on National Radio today has shown that she simply has not understood the mechanisms and funding of our country. Her vague vision will not suffice. Pointing out problems but not having a solution is risable. Let’s hope thatNZ sees through the lipstick and realises that Labour is just a pig.
      
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      September 21, 2017 10:54am
  - 4077th
    
    The man is a twat. He stated on news hub this morning he had been out doing street corner meetings in his electorate. He is NOWHERE to be seen. I live in his electorate and regularly cover most of it in my daily driving habits and I have not seen him or is clapped out red transit van once. Conversely, Alfred Ngaro has been visible every second day at various major intersections. Twatford has some nerve thinking he can sleep walk to victory this time around. Waitakere man has done well over the last 9 years and many now have a lot more money and sense. Those who cannot afford to live in the west have mostly moved on or are concentrated in small, trailer-park like area’s. The guy is a political Mong and demonstrated this very clearly this morning with his BS “relentlessly positive” comment followed up by 30 seconds of calling National and Paula Bennett liars. Someone should tell Twatford a closed mouth attracts no feet!
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:51am
    - Piniwi
      
      Thanks 4077th. It seems that National have all their electorate MP’s and candidates giving maximum time to their voters. It is a bonus when Bill rocks up to make some calls with them as he adopts the Trump strategy. As opposed to Taxinda who favours soft options.
      
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      September 21, 2017 6:41pm
    - Gabby
      
      Did Alf Aggro clean your windscreen? In the 8063rd we tell those fuckers with their squeegees to fuck off. No fie dolla!
      
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      September 21, 2017 7:42pm
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:50pm
  - Gabby
    
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    September 21, 2017 7:39pm
Dead Earnest

Tracy Watkins calls last night’s debate for Jacinda. What planet does she live on?
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September 21, 2017 8:01am
- RalphT
  
  Planet Media is a strange world where things are as you want them to be, not as they are or should be. It bears little resemblance to the real world.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:05am
  - cmm
    
    Planet Double-Down.
    
    They drink their own Kool-aid so deeply they cannot understand the possibility of anyone thinking differently than they do.
    
    Same goes for Morgan. He has surrounded himself by a hand-picked “think tank” that he pays. Surprise, surprise – they all think exactly the way he does!
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:32am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Planet Labour, next to Planet Zanussi
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:06am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Teach you not to buy a did who claimed to work in the UK, but got sacked (with the other staffers) when Tony the Blur quit Downing Street in 2007.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:19am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Bloody predictive text, I meant did!
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:46am
      - hullkiwi
        
        The word is dud!!!!
        
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        September 21, 2017 9:00am
      - Gabby
        
        A dad?
        
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        September 21, 2017 6:01pm
    - Gabby
      
      A kid?
      
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      September 21, 2017 6:00pm
      - Gabby
        
        The word is cod!!!
        
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        September 21, 2017 6:02pm
- krazykiwi
  
  I thought Jacinda’s performance was bedda than in her previous debates. She had more detail to hand, and only resorted to ‘my vision’ when clearly she had no idea.
  
  The standout was Bill though. He’s grown in stature as this campaign has progressed. He rebutted better than in previous debates. Ditto interjections and having facts to hand … even if Hosking disliked them enough to thump the desk in faux exasperation.
  
  Bill is a safe pair of hands. While there’s plenty I can fault with National’s track record, they are head-and-shoulders ahead of the red/green cabal that proposes train-wreck policies.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:07am
  - Paulus
    
    But it is not what the so called media want – they have worked hard for three years, since the last election, where they did not get their own way.
    But it is not over until the toothy one sings – she could stull well become Prime Minister in a Labour/Greens/Maori coalition.
    That’s MMP.
    I was sorry for her last evening – she was getting desperate and her body language and shouting down English did her no service.
    Whereas English showed himself to be amongst other things Prime Ministerial to let her ride her impatience and bad temper and accuse him of lying effectively.
    Che Guevara might have done that but not a good look.
    Remember English and his Doctor wife have brought up six children so are used to letting children in a temper blow off.
    Cinderella’s poorest I/Me showing.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:23am
    - kevn
      
      Paulus… Interesting to hear her acknowledge Bills reasonably sucessful running of NZ. He has played a big part in steering us through GFC and multi earthquakes. Nats are not perfect but…
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:03am
    - cmm
      
      “I was sorry for her last evening ”
      
      Don’t be. She would happily make VeNeZlabour and fuck your life up.
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:35am
    - 4077th
      
      “Relentlessly Positive” until someone highlights you are a sallow as a puddle!
      
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      September 21, 2017 10:02am
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        and as shallow too
        
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        September 21, 2017 11:00am
      - 4077th
        
        Bugger…note to self, always read before posting 🙁
        
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        September 21, 2017 11:42am
  - Prince
    
    Yes, Ardern only had two visions.
    To be (reluctantly) fair, she has performed well. Those in this blog who claimed English would wipe the floor with her must, in their more lucid moments, concede she has exceeded expectations.
    When the smoke has cleared and (hopefully) National sets out for a fourth term, they will have to consider very carefully how to address this threat.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:33am
    - srylands
      
      To repeat something I posted a while back, if National forms a government they need to reflect on what was a near death experience, and make changes. There is no reason they can’t win a fifth and sixth term.
      
      There is some ‘refreshment’ required.
      
      But on the policy front they really need to address the house inflation problem and the evil twins of the RMA and out of control local government.
      
      They also need to tackle water. There are some real problems. But the good news is that there really are solutions that will be acceptable.
      
      There are many other issues but they would be my picks.
      
      Oh one more. They need to communicate about the gigantic resources that go to helping the less well off.
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:19am
      - Happychappy
        
        Why do you think Bill has gone all out to take Winstons vote they want to given alone so they can have the mandate to fix the RMA and the housing crisiss without demands from other Parties.
        
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        September 21, 2017 10:07am
      - GoVege
        
        Nice to see a reasonable post on here, srylands.
        Those gigantic resources need to be properly targeted and they might start reducing.
        Instead of rewarding dumb choices, our government, whoever they are, need to start rewarding smart choices.
        
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        September 21, 2017 10:54am
    - RF
      
      Tell me Ms…….. these visions that you keep having. Had you thought that they might be the result of what you are smoking.
      
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      September 21, 2017 1:40pm
  - softail 1450
    
    KK you are right,its just a pity that the safe pair of hands is an uninspiring mullet just like the rest of the bludgers down in that big house in wellington.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:49am
- peterwn
  
  I suspect she is after a cushy press job in one of the Labour Ministers offices if Labour gets in.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:16am
  - kevn
    
    Peterwn… I suspect JA is a sacrificial lamb. If it works out she is is ok, if not… gone by lunchtime.
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:05am
    - RF
      
      Labours great White hope is a stalking horse that once it has done its job.. off to the knackers yard…
      
      She will turn up as a tube of glue and pet meat rolls.
      
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      September 21, 2017 10:11am
- igm
  
  She is a media messenger of the left who typifies why we are fed vile socialist doctrine at every opportunity. Newstalkzb must be in the pocket of Labour also, they have had a continual barrage of pro-Labour items leading their news this morning. A disgrace!
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:36am
  - dime
    
    i gave up on zb about 2 years ago. their newsroom makes me sick and soper.. well yeah.
    
    podcasts for the win!
    
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    September 21, 2017 10:27am
  - GoVege
    
    Makes a change from last election with ZB putting the boot into Cunliffe at every opportunity.
    
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    September 21, 2017 10:56am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      You and Cunliffe should get a fucking room. I hear he is available.
      
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      September 21, 2017 12:05pm
      - RF
        
        Last I heard of Cunners he was a good boy munching his greens.
        
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        September 21, 2017 1:43pm
- Positan
  
  A slave to her own writings – pitiable really.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:38am
- billmurray
  
  Mars.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:55am
- GazzaW
  
  Planet Tracy maybe? What’s the bet that there might just be a cushy little Ministerial Press Secretary’s job in the offing should Labour win.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:09am
- marcmywords
  
  Yes, and then the Herald poll had 19,000 votes as of last night with 64% saying Bill won… hard to argue Tracy
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:11am
- KevOB
  
  Taxinda showed her commie ideology. She has no understanding of basic economics and is driven by her internal desires to do something.
  She has a strange belief that “she can fix the housing crisis.” Has no understanding that NZ is not alone in the world but like Canute she can hold back the international monetary tides which flood over us. I suspect she is not aware of those either and can by her word change everything.
  
  Simpleton socialism = Zenezuela.
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:56pm
tom hunter

It actually can be easy to forget the election when one suffers a personal loss.

Awaking first thing this morning I check the photo stream to check on Beloved Daughter’s progress through the mean streets of New York, as I do every day.

Only to find that she’s at Yankee Stadium as we speak AND HAS BOUGHT A YANKEES CAP!!!!

Sorry Tatus. But they’re really quite cool

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Betrayed by my own flesh and blood!!!!!

Oh well, it could have been worse.

Coulda’ been the NY Mets!
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September 21, 2017 8:02am
- Kimbo
  
  “Come over to the dark side, Luke!”. 😉
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:08am
  - tom hunter
    
    Yeah – We have cool hats!
    
    I’m surprised that her and her Kiwi friends are sitting though all the innings, even though the Yankees are leading the Twins by 11-3.
    
    Told her that if she sticks around to the 9th, she might get to see Mr 100mph+ himself, Aroldis Chapman!
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:20am
    - Southern Raider
      
      American sport is great to go and watch for the atmosphere and to tick it off the bucket list, but it’s bloody boring after a while
      
      After two hours of baseball you just want to yell out “come on just finish it”
      
      It’s all setup for TV so constant long breaks
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:35am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Could have been worse Tom – she could have done a postal ballot and voted for Taxinda. 😉
      
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      September 21, 2017 10:21am
- MT_Tinman
  
  Coulda’ been the NY Mets! Not at Yankee Stadium it couldn’t.
  
  The Yanks have quite an exciting team this year. Not hard to see why young people would watch them – when the Redbirds aren’t playing elsewhere 😉
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:30am
- RF
  
  tom hunter. I thought NYPD caps were the in thing.
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:45pm
Paulus Gnome

The busted prune is leaving his run late this time . . . . .
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September 21, 2017 8:02am
Monique Watson

Kim Jong-un is a ropeable fucktard who has kept sex slaves and executed relatives. He’s now holding the whole world to ransom. I believe Trump can hold him back without it all going to shit. Meanwhile NZ has an election in a couple of days. Two ticks blue.
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September 21, 2017 8:03am
- kevn
  
  MW. Send in the Osama Bin Laden fixers…
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:07am
- 4077th
  
  Nobody is going to start another war on the Korean peninsula no matter how much brinkmanship little Kim brings to the table. The only way out is to let him have the nukes, wait for a quiet moment and take him out. The regime is only defined by his family dynasty and once gone, he will be forgotten pretty quickly once the NK populous discovers what he has be lying about for so long.
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:19am
- fluffykiwi
  
  Read Richard Prebbles article, this election will be won by the small parties. It takes maybe . 120,000 extra party votes to get another list MP for National but only 31,000 to get an extra Act MP. (These are guestimates depending on the number of Electorate seats won.)
  National will need a support partner they can count on. Act is that party. Seymour will take Epsom so it is easier for Act to take in extra MP’s.
  I wouldn’t count on NZ first. And if Winnie doesn’t win Northland and fails to get 5% then there is definite trouble for National.
  Party Vote Act.
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:59am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:57pm
  - Gabby
    
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    September 21, 2017 7:36pm
kowtow

Well done Merkel you are personally responsible for the rapes and murders. As a politician your job is to look out for the security of your citizens , not of illegal immigrants.

“In the first six months of 2017 the number of recorded sex crimes in Bavaria rose by 48 percent. The revelation that asylum seekers were often suspects has opened a difficult discussion in the southern state.”

Why a “difficult discussion” , would it be “racist”?

“Writing in the Süddeutsche Zeitung on Wednesday, journalist Ulrike Heidenreich said that women who welcomed refugees into Germany in 2015 now have a very different attitude.”

https://www.thelocal.de/20170920/how-a-rise-in-sex-crimes-in-bavaria-has-opened-a-debate-about-womens-rights
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September 21, 2017 8:05am
- waikatosinger
  
  What I find hard to believe about Merkel is that it looks like Germany is about to reelect her.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:42am
- MickMac
  
  The Germans are stupid and deserve all that is happening to them.
  They elected Muti and are about to do so again.
  They do nothing when their media and local Govt keep stum on Muslim assault and rapes on German women.
  They have the power but stick their heads in the sand whilst another woman gets raped near them.
  Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people.
  
  The same is happening to the Swedes and Norwegians.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:59am
oldpark

When i heard Commie Chic Comrade Ardern say .When you go low ,we go high. I assume she was talking about higher water taxes and ETS emission and fuel taxes to start with, depending if her joined at the hip Green Party insist on a CGT Tax.. What a confession.
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September 21, 2017 8:05am
- cmm
  
  She’s really channeling Clinton well. She’s lining up excuses:
  * Mean National attack-based campaign.
  * Concern that the early voting ballot boxes are insecure and open to tampering.
  
  What next: Russians? Greens? SIS?
  
  She doesn’t seem to get it. Just swapping around two MPs in the same party (and what would be the same cabinet) might give you a brief upsurge from 25% to 40%, but people soon figure out that nothing has really changes and you’d be back below 30% within a few weeks.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:19am
- Southern Raider
  
  I heard on Hosking show that early votes start getting counted at mid day on Saturday
  
  How are the left going to keep those rolling results quite until 7 pm
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:37am
  - david
    
    The counting starts at 12 but the results are to reported until 7:00. That is consistent with the policy of not reporting any results while booths are still open.
    
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    September 21, 2017 4:24pm
103PapPap

How does taxing cow farts fix global warming?
Where does the money go?
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September 21, 2017 8:07am
- holysheet
  
  The same place the farts go, into the great blue yonder.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:12am
- krazykiwi
  
  1. It doesn’t. There’s nothing to fix.
  
  2. The money is extracted from the poor from rich countries, and funneled to the rich from poor countries. The UN makes those calls, after their aspiration have been paid for.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:13am
- starboard
  
  Al Gore..Griff will confirm this.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:13am
- Thompy
  
  We need to clear up one small detail. Cows don’t fart they belch. The gas emits out their front, not rear end.
  Having said that there is no reason why belching NZ cows should be taxed via the ETS when no other countries will. Our herd is tiny compared to Europe’s, America’ s and Asia’s.
  This move can only be interpreted as another gratuitous attack on rural NZ and won’t make a blind bit of difference until the rest of the world does so.
  
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  September 21, 2017 4:51pm
103PapPap

The Times of London, Tuesday Sep 19 has a front page article headlined ‘Climate change disaster can be averted, say experts’ and that ‘Scientists admit that the world is warming slower than predicted’.
Michael Grubb, Professor of international energy and climate change at University College London admitted that his past prediction had been wrong.
The study found that the group of computer models used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had predicted a more rapid temperature increase than had taken place.
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September 21, 2017 8:08am
- kowtow
  
  So what you’re saying is the “science” isn’t settled.
  
  Bwahahahaa.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:17am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Apparently, if we cover ourselves in sack cloth and ashes and throw vast amounts of money into a bottomless pit everything will be fine. Meanwhile, over in India they need to create ten thousand jobs week just to keep up with their growing population. All we are doing is helping the chardonay socialists sleep better.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:36am
- Gruffydd
  
  ROFLMAO
  hello nutters
  The number of logic errors in the whack argument that global warming is a hoax scam or other gibbering nonsense.
  
  We will have many who up tick this comment on a scientific paper thinking it somehow supports the stupid nonsense often plastered over this blog.
  
  The paper agrees global warming is happening.
  
  It only says we have a few more years to end our uncontrolled experiment in atmospheric physics on this planet.
  
  The data in the paper stopped in 2014 .
  2014 was a record hot year as was 2105 and 2016 making its conclusion obsolete.
  
  It also fails to account to the much referenced natural variability. Failing to account for this is often chucked at climte scientists by the loons on here.
  
  Interesting comment on this paper for those who seek to have a informed opinion.
  http://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2017/are-the-models-running-too-hot/
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:06am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Griff, its great we can rely on you for a regular stream of science-free, evidence defying, scientific satire this topic. KB just wouldn’t be the same without you mate.
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:17am
    - Gruffydd
      
      ROFL
      Hello krazi .
      How does feel to know you are ignored by every political party here in NZ ?
      National just tightened the ETS.
      They cancelled the two for one deal and banned dodgy eastern European credits.
      
      Gibber away.. . I will get to keep laughing at your loony baying for years as you become more bewildered about the world around you.
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:28am
      - Brito
        
        Gruff you are a liar at worst, a dick at best, but probably a stumbling drunk. I SAID A STUMBLING DRUNK…never mind.
        
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        September 21, 2017 11:05am
  - starboard
    
    ROFLMAO
    ROFL
    
    Speak engrish Gwiff.
    Children, Gwiff is a fine example of what happens when you smoke too much Mary Jane..
    F.I.T.H syndrome.
    
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    September 21, 2017 1:21pm
hullkiwi

Hopefully, tonight’s poll will confirm last & Saturday will see Gayfood reaching for the Twits speil. But seriously, if things work out there are going to be some unhappy p****s at Auckland Transport, Auckland Council & the Transport blog as their planned spending spree gets washed away (including that bloody footpath over the bridge)!
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September 21, 2017 8:09am
- Southern Raider
  
  Maybe someone can now come up with a sensible heavy rail solution from Onehunga to the Airport now
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:39am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I had to go to Mangere airport yesterday, then find a rental car place for one of my daughters and grandson. As I went round a myriad of streets, a little bit lost, I thought;
    “with a heavy rail solution the value of commercial real estate in the immediate vicinity of the airport might drop. That is because a proper heavy rail link would get most people away from the airport environs and out in the wider community very quickly. Possibly airfreight distribution centres could be run from, say, Huapai and Te Kauwhata.”
    Just a random thought.
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:04am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Southern, there isn’t one for several reasons:
    Politics;
    Cost;
    No true demand – controversial but true;
    NZTA removed the access path in Onehunga;
    Which group of travellers really wants to be dumped in downtown Auckland unless you have flown up from Wellington. Trust me long haul do not want to be dumped downtown & then have to find their way to where ever they are planning to go;
    NZ is too small to be able to pay for the Transport Blogs Oxymoron called The Congestion Free Network. Because you need a more extensive network if you put Heavy Rail to the Airport;
    Farebox recovery will be through the floor (as it already is and AT/ the farepayer, ratepayer & taxpayer) isn’t even paying for CRL yet
    
    Is that enough reasons why there is no plan for Heavy rail to the airport.
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:17am
  - G152
    
    A taxinda drawn hackney cab ?
    
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    September 21, 2017 11:16am
DifferentPerspective

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t

So the Herald has a hit job on MSD, about ~~rabid left wing nutters~~ beneficiary advocates representing potentially dangerous and vindictive beneficiaries who seek to go after MSD staff members when they don’t get an infinite amount of welfare.

Nutter handling-units
So it’s a common practice in social agencies when you have nutter clients (ie clients who are abusive, threatening, call 20x per day every day) to deal with them with a special remote nutter-handling unit. These nutter-handling units are set up with highly trained staff and are outside of the normal branch system – they are their to minimise the massive waste of taxpayer resource that can be incurred when dealing with someone who just wants to agitate in the hope that it’ll get them something extra that they’re not legally entitled to.

The danger from the nutters is real
The nutters handled by the nutter-handling units loathe it, because they’re not able to be as abusive and vindictive as they can be when they rant and rave in MSD branches. The key thing all the nutters want is to get personal at the poor people who deal, day in day out with the abusive, vicious nutters. Anyone remember the two poor middle-aged women who got murdered in Ashburton by that animal Russel John Tully. How many workers have to be worried about their dissatisfied customers arriving at their place of business intent on murdering them like public servants do? (Oh yes libtards – he was ‘lone wolf’ nutter).

Use of aliases
If KB readers worked in these sorts of places, wouldn’t you want your name and identity kept away from murdering psychos like Russell John Tully? Yes? Which is why the names of the staff in these nutter-handling units is hidden by the use of aliases. And they’re often fairly obvious aliases like “Rocky Road” or “John Doe” or “Bill Collector”.

The catch 22
So MSD are getting slapped around by the Privacy Commissioner for privacy breaches involving client names at the same time as the Social Security Appeals Authority for NOT breaching the privacy and giving out staff member names? Are staff members less entitled to privacy rights than clients? Isn’t the risk of murder or violence to a staff member or their family – not a good enough reason to use aliases.

Why having staff member names is so important
Because of the standard approach of the Left – rule 13 of “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky – the person that inspired Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton’s academic studies.

Rule 13 says …
“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

Go after people – they hurt faster! The fascism of the Left in the 21st Century!
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September 21, 2017 8:09am
- GoVege
  
  Blaming “lefties” is a waste of time.
  It’s obvious that many people are incapable of caring for themselves.
  Instead of expecting them to negotiate with numerous government departments, they need to be looked after in secure housing with a resident social worker and big burly guards.
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:41am
oldpark

What an indictment by” Commie Chic” Comrade Ardern. She who is good at making excuses,is seldom good at anything else.She is well into the blame game.Maybe she read Crooked Hillary Clintons’ new book.
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September 21, 2017 8:10am
- oldpark
  
  Bill English says, If Labour will stop “telling lies “about National. National will stop telling the “truth” about Labour.
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:00am
SteveRemmington

What a cracker of a blog post on Whaleoils Face of the Day in relation to last nights Poll.

“As the country’s leading pollster, Gary Morgan is seen as having his finger on the pulse of issues… He is often called upon to provide political and social comment, his research-based understanding of public opinion being sought after by the press, television, radio and leading bloggers and online commentators.

Well, I think he should hide in his office for the day. Even though I have no doubt there has not been anything shady going on, the end result is that the widely swinging poll, and specifically its timing, is hugely damaging to the Labour party.

That has to be the shoddiest bit of polling yet. It wouldn’t surprise me if the left will accuse Roy Morgan of deliberately screwing with the election in favour of National.

If polling companies world-wide would like to keep their business, they are going to have to figure out why their methods are no longer delivering the results they used to.”

Am I being a little pedantic to point out to NZs most experienced political blogger that last nights poll wasn’t a Roy Morgan poll but a Colmar Brunton one?
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September 21, 2017 8:14am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  That’ll get you a lifetime ban. Slater only calls it like it is, and thou shalt not have a dissenting view. The guy’s a mallowpuff. Pretends to be hard on the outside, but a total snowflake.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:29am
- Gruffydd
  
  Poor whale.
  He is backing NZF to teach those filthy nats what right wing is.
  Seems the only thing to learn is the old drunk is a has been.
  
  My crystal ball can see full retard coming on whale oil bee fhooked.
  
  More Popcorn..
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:32am
  - CHFR1
    
    I wonder if he will replicate Little Green Footballs and come out as a lefty after the election.
    I have said it before but it is sad to see the decline of what was once a great blog.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:53am
    - VicParking
      
      SB will send him on a “Long Holiday” after the election were he can get all the medication that he needs to come right. I sort of feel sorry for him,on a personal level, but he has brought it on himself. SB should have pulled him a few weeks ago.
      Can’t see the blog lasting much longer. Like me and lots of others his site is only visited for is amusment value rather than for anything else.
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:03am
      - Piniwi
        
        True VP it has become a quick read after bypassing twaddle from SB, interns and subscription click bait there is not much to see.
        
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        September 21, 2017 7:15pm
    - dime
      
      yep! what the fuck happened to the little green footballs guy? is he getting paid?? very odd.
      
      WO craves influence and being in the know. hes no longer in the know and it kills him
      
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      September 21, 2017 10:33am
- fluffykiwi
  
  Satire is the explanation.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:32am
  - SteveRemmington
    
    Yes I noticed that satire has since been added to the footnote. Good to see Whale reads Kiwiblog
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:44am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    but, but, explaining is losing …
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:46am
    - SteveRemmington
      
      Yep. Kinda sad that his followers are now going:
      
      Oh Cam, you got us so good, we never knew it was satire, you’re a legend you little trickster…
      
      Why didn’t he just come clean and say we fucked up?
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:53am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        I guess there’s a first time for everything, but don’t hold your breath.
        
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        September 21, 2017 10:23am
wiseowl

Meanwhile….
Obama comes out against what he calls Nationalism
in a dig at Trump.
What he is really saying is that the West should give in to global domination.
Unfortunately our wonderful little country is well on the way to control by the globalists.
Go Trumpy
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September 21, 2017 8:14am
VicParking

The MSM are starting to panic. The failing Wellington newspaper has a full front page advert for Labour. The Auckland paper is struggling to find negative stories about National. The gloss has gone from the tooth fairies teeth, she struggled last night.
Bill caught her out time and time again.
Two ticks blue
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September 21, 2017 8:17am
- krazykiwi
  
  In fairness to the Herald, they are leading with “Leaders’ Debate: The first time Ardern has looked rattled”.
  
  In truth, she has been constantly rattled. Any debate sentence containing the phrase ‘ … my vision …’ is evidence that’s she’s rattled.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:24am
  - Piniwi
    
    Yes krazy but you forgot the other “I absolutely blah blah.
    
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    September 21, 2017 7:22pm
- Prince
  
  …And in fairness to the Dompost the front page is labelled “Advertisement”.
  There’s a first time for everything I guess.
  
  The other pages – same message but no “Advertisement” warning.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:40am
  - VicParking
    
    Do you think they would have accepted a full page advert from National.
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:06am
- VicParking
  
  Red radio is also in a panic. The Political commentaor they dragged up was Sandra Lee, (no bias there). She virtually said the Tooth Fairy wiped the floor with Bill.
  I am getting sick of the $11b hole. Even next door, who have a Labour billboard on their fence, understands that Labour has not allocated any more money to spending other than health and education and that “Grant Murray Robertson” couldn’t give the right change “if you paid $10 for a $5 coffee”.
  He is still voting Labour but he ‘has done so for the last 15 elections so he wont change now.
  He thinks the unions will roll her after xmas and David will be back in charge.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:54am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Which David? Parker, Shearer, Cunliffe or Lange? There’s been so many.
    
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    September 21, 2017 12:14pm
    - Piniwi
      
      None of the above. 15 elections? He must mean David that slayed the giant surely.
      
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      September 21, 2017 7:26pm
- Inandout
  
  If they lose any more subscribers they will fold within 12 months. Socialist journalists never learn that paper purchasers pay their salaries, and most purchasers are literate, therefore most don’t vote Labour.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:43am
- GoVege
  
  Don’t gloat too soon, Vic.
  Most people haven’t voted yet!
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:25am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  September 21, 2017 2:11pm
- Gabby
  
  Bingles just lied his arse off.
  
  Tulixpu
  
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  September 21, 2017 7:28pm
Happychappy

The one thing Labour will never understand is that if you keep blaming others for your own mistakes sooner or later people will ask questions and this is what has happened in Steven Joyce’s 11 billion dollar hole. So if Labour wants to have their version believed all they have to do is say we are going to borrow a lot more money to see us through and we can prove that our figures of surplus will be achieved the voter may have more faith. But for Sweet cheeks to try and cover up with no money to pay for essentials like wages and other necessary expenditures is going back to Labour thìnking the public are stupid and will never know like happened under the Clark Government.
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September 21, 2017 8:22am
Than

Over at The Standard they are screaming and ranting about National “lying” for claiming Labour will raise income taxes.

Fact – If Labour wins, they are going to pass a law that means New Zealanders will pay more Income Tax from April 1 next year. If National wins (or, hypothetically, Labour won but didn’t pass this law) New Zealanders will pay less income tax.

Would any of KB’s resident left-wingers wish to dispute this?

Trying to draw some major distinction between cancelling a tax cut already on the books versus raising income taxes is quibbling over semantics. It is a difference that makes no difference. For National to call it “raising income taxes” is not inaccurate, and most definitely not lying. Spin, sure, but nowhere close to lying. It is a factually true statement that Labour are going to take an action that means people will pay more income tax.
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September 21, 2017 8:23am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Yep. I thought that trying to explain why LESS=SAME was a pretty bad look for Taxcinda last night.
  
  When you are on national television getting angry because you had been caught out saying ‘black’ was in fact ‘white’ and whining “it’s not fair” it made Taxcinda look less like a PM-in-waiting and more like a petulant teenager. I half expected her to shriek “take it back, tack it back!”.
  
  It was not a good look!
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:28am
- Paulus
  
  Agreed – the tax reductions are gazetted in law to take effect on the 1st April.
  
  Cinderella has made it publically clear that she will introduce legislation asap to cancel that tax change.
  That in itself as already mandated will represent an Income Tax increase.
  
  Silly bint.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:31am
  - KevOB
    
    If we don’t get Winston that may be regretted. He would stop such a reduction. He may be a bit quirky now but I ma sure would not tolerate a government rescinding legislated tax increases for the elderly.
    
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    September 21, 2017 2:14pm
- VicParking
  
  Its quite simple, if Labour win I will be getting $12 a fnite less in the bank account on a Tuesday.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:09am
  - GoVege
    
    You poor dude!
    $12 less!!
    The GoVege clan are all on high incomes but we don’t mind paying our share to make this a better place.
    
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    September 21, 2017 11:29am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  As it stands my tax bill from 1 April 2018 to 31 March 2019 is $x.
  If Labour is elected it will be $x +$1,000.
  How is that ever not an increase?
  Labour will increase my tax bill if elected. No lie.
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:25am
- rangitoto
  
  You went to the Standard!. Thanks for taking one for the team to get the info but you will now need to shower for days.
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:32am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    But think of the water tax – oh wait, is Than a townie or a rural polluter?
    
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    September 21, 2017 12:22pm
- Gabby
  
  Than’s a load of bullshit.
  
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  September 21, 2017 5:38pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Good heavens – they left the asylum door unlocked.
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:46pm
flipper

Agree with Dead Ernie ….

Watkins and Small are well known Labour shills, as are most of the current conventional media, especially radio and TV.
The biggest lie they tell, and keep repeating, is that reversing legislated tax cuts (cuts supported by all parties except Labour) is not a tax increase. Their bias is appalling!

Watched the TV debate last night with two grandchildren (0ne 19, the other 21) and both reckoned that the only BS’er was Adhern.
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September 21, 2017 8:23am
Manolo

Socialist buggers love taxes, don’t they?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/with-popular-single-payer-plan-bernie-sanders-enters-new?utm_term=.nxywYmLlq#.qpEBRXvq2
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September 21, 2017 8:24am
- Gabby
  
  Rightards love gumbint bailouts don’t they manuro.
  
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  September 21, 2017 5:31pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    MEDIC !!!
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:47pm
MCos

I’ve cast my votes.
I sick of hearing Biil & Jacinda on the TV on the airwaves, not to mention Hosking and that TV3 bloke.
On Saturday night the crowd I voted for may or may not win.
Either way unless expectations are pretty modest I expect the next government, particularly if it’s Labour led, will disappoint many of it’s supporters.
It’s always the way. The reality of governing soon dulls the sparkle of idealism.
Politicians are like bananas. They start off green and finish up bent and yellow.
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September 21, 2017 8:25am
- Inandout
  
  Please don’t refer to Robbo in those terms.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:45am
  - stigie
    
    He can take it Inandout !~
    
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    September 21, 2017 10:44am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      He certainly does – just ask Alf. 😉
      
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      September 21, 2017 1:12pm
fluffykiwi

Let’s hear it for our defence force, navy, Army etc., working round the clock to man Fuel tankers (Private not army) to ensure that fuel gets to Auckland.
Lets hear it for National, disasters strike you need a good hand on the tiller.
You certainly don’t need Labour , there is no way the army would have been allowed to drive private fuel tankers, the Unions would not allow that.
Do not forget how the Unions will come into play with a labour government.
Also Labour is not too keen on our defence force. The armed forces do a huge amount, think the earthquake, providing kitchens all sorts of emergency things. Think how they get into action when there is some issue in the Islands, hurricanes etc.,
So let’s hear it for our Armed forces, they step in and just get on with the job in hand.
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September 21, 2017 8:28am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I’m meeting the Minister of Defence today, so I will ask him to pass on your salutations to the NZDF fluffykiwi 😀
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:38am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Thank you. I had both mother and father serving in WWII, in the airforce. Mother is still alive 98 and still going strong. Not sure if they breed them like that now, Country first and loyalty.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:44am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    And mine please.
    Well done NZDF on this and everything else they do so well.
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:49am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      With pleasure 😀
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:57am
- VicParking
  
  Great idea to use the defence force. The Unions would have found a way to scuttle the idea if union truck drivers had been used. Breaks every ten miles, no working more than six hours at a time. Health and safety rep in each cab. Union meetings every second day……….
  Not forgetting triple time
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:13am
  - KevOB
    
    Ah.. but double rates for half the hours with extra for 3/4 break periods… it’s on.
    
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    September 21, 2017 2:17pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    “Lets do this” ha ha ha
    
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    September 21, 2017 3:44pm
Ross12

How many times did they cost out Transmission Gully ? How many reports were done?
But they still stuff up the figures in big way. Of course they will not exact BUT 50% error in the earthworks required !!
https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/transmission-gully-earthworks-estimate-undershoots-50-b-207917
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September 21, 2017 8:28am
- VicParking
  
  Be fair…Until you start digging you don’t rally know whats under the ground. In NZ unlike other countries the geology changes every kilometer or so.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:15am
  - Ross12
    
    If that’s the case Vic , surely that should be taken into account, even if the err on the cautious side.
    50% under is ludicrous !
    
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    September 21, 2017 1:55pm
- ex-golfer
  
  The biggest problem they are having is finding people to work there.
  Thre conditions are so bad and there is plenty of other work in the Wellington region that contractors have lots of other choice.
  This has resulted in a requirement to get a whole lot of Australian contractors over who have no idea how to work in such conditions – mud, wet, hilly, cold. Together with ludicrous H&S regulations to deal with.
  No wonder the budget is being blown out.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:41am
cubit

We still have’nt had any detail on labour relations and policies for the workplace. Come to think of it, National have’nt exactly pushed the subject.
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September 21, 2017 8:31am
Longknives

Saw a cracking good film last night-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7no56Zw1e20

Got me thinking- Why didn’t the National Party use some Stephen King in their campaigning?

Little Georgie is sailing his paper boat down the gutters- he bangs his head on a Jacinda ‘Let’s Do This’ Electoral Hoarding.
When he gets up he sees his Paper Boat has floated down a drain with a Red Balloon flying over it. Georgie approaches and peeps down the drain.
Two evil eyes appear.
‘Hello Little Boy what’s your name?’ says Helen Clark (in full Election Make-up) glaring out at him from the Drain.
‘Georgie’ he says..
‘Well Georgie’ the Beast in the drain cackles evilly, ‘Would you like Free Education?’ ‘How about clean rivers? I bet you like swimming in clean rivers don’t you Georgie ??’
‘Yes but my Daddy votes National’ says the terrified child
‘Come a little closer Georgie…’

Anyone who has seen the film knows what happens next…
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September 21, 2017 8:31am
Maggy Wassilieff

I haven’t voted yet and I haven’t told hubby who he has to vote for yet…..
so there is a small window of time in which I am open to persuasion.

Would someone mind summarising Jacinda’s vision for me…. I know she has a vision, she tells us so… I’m just a bit vague on the details.
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September 21, 2017 8:33am
- fluffykiwi
  
  Depends whether you like fairy stories or factual stories.
  Make believe and fairy stories are for our non working hours.
  Fact is for the reality of our everyday lives.
  So do you wish to live a life of pretence or reality.
  Pretence means “fraud” often. Some of our best white collar criminals had “visions”. Look where that got them, often a stretch in pokey.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:37am
- wiseowl
  
  Maggie just vote for her because she is a pretty woman.
  That’s all you need to know.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:48am
- Kiwi Dave
  
  You and hubby should set up a working party after the election to work out who to vote for, then time travel back to September 23 to cast your ballots.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:38am
- MickMac
  
  wake up Maggy
  
  Unions screw up the working environment
  extra taxes and no tax cuts
  elderly worse off
  more hip hop tours paid for
  more LGBT menacing NZ laws and workplaces
  beneficiaries never having to work if they don’t want too.
  
  did I say more taxes
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:07am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Maggy.
  
  “….. I’m just a bit vague on the details.”
  
  So’s Cindy. Why don’t you just pin your ballot paper to the wall, take your darts with , and bingo – whatever you dart hits….
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:47am
- AgentBallSack
  
  Free unicorn farts and rainbows for everyone Maggie!
  (I tried that line on Stuff last night but my comment, alas, did not make moderation)
  
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  September 21, 2017 12:19pm
- KevOB
  
  The spectacles are red. I know I can roll the back the crisis, any crisis–like housing. That means the Reserve Bank will have to have interest rates ~~clapped~~ capped. I can’t run a country without control, its my vision. I was President of the Young Comrades but they’ve all grown up and I’m on my own now. You’ll just to bear with me while I shift from 37 to 38. The water tax was a lie: it was a royalty until some climate denier said water was not a green house gas until heated and that heating by cows was not ETS transparent. You know what I mean. We I will see that cows pay their share: sheep will be covered too if the farmers don’t let them alone and ETS will come to a paddock near you. Well, that’s my policy when the committee reports to me I will tax any water that moves, whether on the ground or in the atmosphere. My vision: well babies of course, if the unions will let me have the time. There’s always McCarten to help out if necessary. See ya.
  
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  September 21, 2017 4:11pm
igm

It is a shame we were unable to attend a meeting at Oroua Downs where Lees-Galloway was given the message by farmers. Still, he had the balls to attend; gutless liar Parker backed out. Pity Lees-Galloway didn’t get the same treatment as Duncan Garner received when he made smart arse comments in a pub.
When are we going to hear Labour’s acceptance to Matthew-Wilson’s recommendations for rigorous drivers’ licence tests for over-65s? This was mooted in Stuff a year or so back, and has been agreed to by most of those who would form a government, if they get past the post.
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September 21, 2017 8:47am
Keeping Stock

I had a fantastic day yesterday accompanying the likely next MP for Whanganui around Waverley, Patea, Stratford, Eltham and Hawera yesterday. Our visit included a stop at Stratford Saleyards, where hundreds of head of beef cattle were being bought and sold, for good prices.

Over the course of the day we met three Labour voters, one of whom was most apologetic for having voted red early in the piece. Our candidate may have saved a couple of other voters from wasting a vote on NZ First. But in New Zealand’s rural heartland, the anti-Labour sentiment is the strongest I have ever seen it.

The Reid Research poll tonight will be interesting. I am expecting a similar result to last week, and for Bill English to be able to form a government after Saturday night.
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September 21, 2017 8:47am
- rangitoto
  
  I hope so. Just in case though, I will keep Mr Trump’s invasion force on standby 🙂
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:40am
- tom hunter
  
  But in New Zealand’s rural heartland, the anti-Labour sentiment is the strongest I have ever seen it.
  
  Strong? Hell, it’s white-hot hatred where I am. There are actually farmers who’ve voted Labour in the past, especially in 1999, who appear to have finally had the blinders really drop.
  
  What I mean by that is that having voted Labour in the past (or Green – that happens too), they’ve finally seen them for what they are – people who secretly (and sometimes not so secretly) hate their guts, and for more than just “dirty rivers”.
  
  I don’t know what to credit this to, but from discussions I do wonder if Internet sites, especially Facebook, have had an impact, in that those places have revealed what their distant relatives and others in the cities (all created by Zuckerberg’s need to build ever-expanding social networks) really think on many Lefty issues. The result has been both a quiet horror and a backlashing anger.
  
  I’ve seen the same with my wife, virulent loather of Trump forever, she has not changed her mind on the man – but the insane level of Trump/GOP/Christian hatred that she has seen every day on her Facebook page, much of it from people she’s known for decades, has been a hell of an eye-opener for her.
  
  Yay for the Internet and free speech – especially in that it has allowed Lefties to really tell you what they think of you.
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:43am
Digmen1

I’ve got a vision.
National for the next twenty tears
Labour goes back to its new natural 24%
And a decent “right” party arises to replace Act, and the Conservatives.
I would suggest their colour should be Dark Blue.

We need to move away from WFF and Accomodation supplement.
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September 21, 2017 8:51am
- Lance
  
  It would be interesting to see what a real Blue / Green party looked like.
  We certainly don’t have one now in the mix.
  I know a lot of youngsters who care about the environment , know the Greens economics are rubbish but vote for them anyway because the environment overrules such issues.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:10am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Wearing a Green dress on St paddy’s day does not make me Irish.
    Naming your political Party “The green Party” does not make you more of an environmental party than any other party. It is a stupid perception that is being traded on.
    Read all Party environmental platforms.
    
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    September 21, 2017 11:04am
- MickMac
  
  from your mouth to God’s ear.
  But National really straddle the centre not be left centre.
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:09am
- KevOB
  
  Too late.
  
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  September 21, 2017 4:17pm
cmm

Time for NZ English Language month?

I occasionally listen to RNZ in the car. This morning I heard the ear-jarring incorrect use of “her” instead of “she”. Something along the lines of:
“Her and her sister were blah blah blah”.

It was not a once off either, he repeated this error a few times during the segment.

Now I know my grammar and English use is far from perfect, but professionals in the top radio station in the country should be able to get this stuff right.
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September 21, 2017 9:16am
- Longknives
  
  Absolutely time for an English Language month.
  Stuff’s so-called ‘Journalists’ don’t even know the difference between ‘Loser’ and ‘Looser’!
  *They’ve done it multiple times..
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:21am
  - cubit
    
    With respect to the centre left both terms apply
    
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    September 21, 2017 3:35pm
- KevOB
  
  They mangle Maori. Why should they be any better with English?
  
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  September 21, 2017 4:18pm
Brito

Hey Starboard I agree with your comment in that paper placed in that other blog. Ha!!! The Labour Party is now named The Glory Hole Party. You don’t know who’s doing it to you, you only know that eventually you’re going to get it in the butt.

Laughed so hard I nearly burst my wee pee bag!!!
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September 21, 2017 9:16am
Steve (North Shore)

Alaska.
Homer Spit, the Time Bandit https://www.dropbox.com/s/4obccxrp5k5o3te/IMG_2559.JPG?dl=0
Salty Dawg Saloon Homer Spit https://www.dropbox.com/s/gjoak00mvp8dd32/IMG_2597.JPG?dl=0
Inside Salty Dawg https://www.dropbox.com/s/fvs96fqxwxkzim6/IMG_2599.JPG?dl=0
Seldovia from a Cessna https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ubhij9hmbxjqh5/IMG_2697.JPG?dl=0
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September 21, 2017 9:16am
duggledog

Jacinda Ardern on National Radio with Kathryn Ryan , 9,25 a.m.

I quote:

“Maori have a greater stake in water’ than everyone else.

That line should be the headline banner. That line should cost her the election.
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September 21, 2017 9:29am
- cas
  
  Kathryn Ryan asked quite tough questions and Jacinda resorted to her mantras and slogans. But we do know now that there will be a national award for bus drivers all over the country so those in small rural areas will be paid as much as those in Auckland. The only time I have heard a commentator ask hard questions about the industrial relations policy
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:46am
  - BeaB
    
    Very good interview though she still gets away with the empty rhetoric.
    Do the quiz:
    What portfolios do you associate the following with?
    Twyford
    Hipkins
    Moroney
    Robertson
    Davis
    Ardern
    That we can’t answer says it all about her impact and achievement in parliament over the last 9 years.
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:59am
wiseowl

Duggle.
Trouble is National think that too.
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September 21, 2017 9:42am
jcuk

I’d likely vote for a Blue-Green party rather than the current labour-in-drag … and I’m in my second childhood 🙂
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September 21, 2017 9:56am
- greybeard
  
  Me too. I sent this email to Rachel Smalley on 1st August 2017 ( a full 8 days before Turei resigned ).
  
  “I would quite like to see a National / Greens coalition government, with a couple of provisos:
  
  1. No Metiria Turei in the Greens party.
  
  2. The Greens to concentrate only on matters related to the environment , recycling and natural resources sustainability .
  
  I am a life-long National voter, and at the same time a life-long supporter of all matters related to the NZ environment:
  
  – our wonderful natural resources: the beaches, the forests, the wildlife.
  
  I suspect I am not the only one with this attitude.
  
  Is this asking too much? “
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:10am
  - rangitoto
    
    The Greens would lose their commie base.
    
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    September 21, 2017 11:42am
- fluffykiwi
  
  Check out all the political party environment platforms. All want to “save the planet, have clean rivers etc.,) Which joint political parties have the ability to deliver.
  In my Book it is National and Act.
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:01am
BeaB

The caregiver this morning tells me she has voted National because “I am better off with Bill English”.
Despite the media painting Bill as boring I suspect there are a lot of voters who understand the work he has done to build our economy and want it to continue.
Jacinda is too untested, too inexperienced, too vacuous and I think perhaps too frail. And, if clothes aren’t the issue, why the totally different outfit, makeup and hair do last night from the previous debate? I wish Mike had asked her.
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September 21, 2017 9:57am
- AgentBallSack
  
  She didnt have Clarke to do her laundry.
  
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  September 21, 2017 12:24pm
Keeping Stock

Anyone seen ztev, marquess or gabby in the last 24 hours? Has Labour accepted the inevitable, and stood them down to avoid incurring further cost?
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September 21, 2017 9:58am
- rangitoto
  
  Haven’t seen anything from muttonhead either.
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:43am
- AgentBallSack
  
  Hopefully retired like deadrightkev when he got his arse handed to him over Colin and Trump.
  
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  September 21, 2017 12:25pm
- Lance
  
  Were they banned or did their heads just explode?
  
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  September 21, 2017 12:35pm
  - 4077th
    
    If they were the naughty step list has not been updated. Perhaps their funding has dried up what with all the princess Rescinda ad’s all over the place.
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:11pm
Digmen1

Yes I must admit that Jacinda was dressed like a serious politician last night.

And her hair was pretty hot too.
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September 21, 2017 10:00am
- RF
  
  Still an air head
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:55am
MrTips

Massive front page Labour ad on front of ThePress today. Smiley photo of Ardern and usual mantra. Not seen that tactic before. Maybe that’s why Joanna Norris has resigned as Editor. Ugh.
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September 21, 2017 10:04am
Hugh Pavletich

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
NZ Prime Minister fails badly in housing defence – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/09/nz-prime-minister-fails-badly-housing-defence/

With the New Zealand National Government’s single-minded focus on solving Auckland’s housing crisis by boosting supply failing dismally, and it facing possible election defeat as the nation hits the polls on Saturday, Prime Minister Bill English has defended the Government’s housing record. From Interest.co.nz: …

… concluding …

… With at least 15,000 new homes needing to be built (not consented) in the city each year – more than double the current build rate – it is obvious that the housing situation in Auckland will continue to worsen as dwelling supply falls well short of rapid immigration-fueled population growth.

New Zealand needs genuine action on both the demand and supply-sides. And only Labour seems to have comprehensive policies (see here and here).
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September 21, 2017 10:06am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  NZ Government shamed for housing failures on morning TV – MacroBusiness
  
  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/09/nz-government-shamed-housing-failures-morning-tv/
  
  By Leith van Onselen
  
  If you get a chance today, make sure that you head over to NewsHub to watch The AM Show host, Duncan Garner, demolish New Zealand’s National Government and Auckland Council over their epic housing policy failures.
  
  Garner holds nothing back and gives National both barrels in a sustained verbal assault. Below are some highlights, but there is much more gold in the video: … view and read more via hyperlink above …
  
  and … http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/09/campaign_countdown_-_6_days_to_go.html/comment-page-1#comment-2027775 with numerous further posts …
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:21am
  - igm
    
    Garner is in the mould of Espiners, Campbells, Smalley, Bradford, Vance, Stewart, Watkins, et al. They are left-wing vile pieces of excrement and should not be in positions of influence.
    
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    September 21, 2017 11:18am
    - Digmen1
      
      I used to think that Duncan Garner was left wing, but I have changed my mind after seeing him on the TV3 breakfast show
      
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      September 21, 2017 11:41am
  - starboard
    
    ” Hic”…”Hic”…”doomed I tells ya”…
    
    [see hyperlink…]
    
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    September 21, 2017 11:31am
Manolo

Interesting analysis on the markets:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/20/global-stocks-are-crushing-the-us-this-year.html
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September 21, 2017 10:11am
- Inandout
  
  Trump did highlight the US economy in his UN speech, but if the others are doing better then that is good also. When US companies return to the homeland will this affect world markets? By the way, it appeared Trump spoke for 45 minutes without a teleprompter.
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:36am
Happychappy

Ha ha Hugh did you cry yourself to sleep last night. The tide has turned and showed the fantasy of Jacinda and Labour their true colours out of their depth and ready to blame every body but themsleves for snatching defeat from the realms of victory.
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September 21, 2017 10:19am
dime

if labour win, they will raise the taxes for the next financial year. its pretty fucking simple. a bit like chompers.
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September 21, 2017 10:35am
Anne Glen Eden

What has become apparent from watching the election campaigns is, we have to hope, the triumph of fact over fiction.

Bill English is running a government which has seen NZ through the GFC, earthquakes, et al. and the country is doing well, certainly in an international context. For all the wailing about the poor etc. people are coping in the vast majority as well.

Ardern, by comparison, has never ‘run’ anything meaningful at all – not a business, not even a home (and by all accounts can’t cope with the washing), not a job outside of the political sphere.

Whether anyone loves them or not, the National government has Ministers who are doing their job. Labour et al are a motley collection of activists who can’t get their story straight at any given time, many of whom are in conflict with each other. Kelvin Davis embarasses himself and his party every time he opens his mouth. The debate I watched between he and Paula Bennet was typical – Paula didn’t have to wipe the floor with him; he bleated weakly an unheard mantra. Hipkins almost managed to create an international incident. The Greens have policies in open contradiction to Labour. And who can forget Turei?

I’m utterly sick of watching Ardern’s tirades about how much she ‘cares’ and her ‘visions and aspirations’. None of that pays any bills. It’s pure ideology and they know it – they will need a proliferation of ‘experts’ to tell them what to do because they haven’t got a clue. Watching Q&A and The Nation has been an education. Not only have a sequence of socialists like Sue Bradford candidly stated that Labour have no real policy and are mouthing empty slogans, but after a sequence on foreign trade, Fran O’Sullivan forgot all tact when asked what she thought of Ardern’s comments and ‘stream of consciousness’ commented “She hasn’t got a clue” – which is true of all of it.

Labour have tried to cruise to power on the basis of Ardern’s image of a ‘pretty’ Pied Piper of the undiscerning young and female. Despite being 37, which is as much of crock of ‘youth’ as anything, it’s all ‘suffragetish’ – but those women who were suffragettes were infinitely more practical and capable than Ardern could even imagine. Do NZ women really aspire to be empty political idealogues who look good and smile a lot but don’t know how to sort colours in their washing? Let alone want to give birth and drag their children to work, breastfeeding them on site and in public?

Like it or not, high Auckland house prices has probably done more for ‘regional development’ than any policy in recent decades. Cheap Auckland housing will bring people flooding in from everywhere to take advantage of it. And, as Stephen Joyce says, who wouldn’t buy a ‘home’ for $400,000 and flick it at the earliest opportunity for $700,000 – none of which would be subject to CGT?

The only things Labour et al are unequivocal about are, like the old adage, death and taxes: the former to proliferate abortion and euthanasia, and the latter wherever they feel like it after their ‘experts’ advise them – with the water tax, road tax, and fart tax to be going on with. In reality, should they get into government, they will apply all the worst parts of National plus making life a whole lot harder for a lot more people from the tax, flow-on costs and unwanted and careless ideology, accompanied by spiralling national debt.

I hope the tide is turning to National, whether or not I like everything they do and they need to do better – because they do, at least, know what they’re doing, have a deep understanding of latent as well overt functions of policy, and have demonstrated genuine, practical care of the country and its people.
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September 21, 2017 10:42am
- starboard
  
  “Ardern, by comparison, has never ‘run’ anything meaningful at all”
  
  You could say that about the entire Labour caucus.
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:15am
  - Brito
    
    C’mon, unfair! Have you ever wrestled with 15 orders on a Saturday night down at the local chippy? And then some drunk (Griff) comes in and wants garlic salt…but not too much and have you got vodka?
    
    She’s organised, wiping the fat splashes from her overbite as we speak and preparing to take the helm.
    
    Gaylord’s in for a jolly rogering and then off she goes to Wellington.
    
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    September 21, 2017 11:27am
    - itstricky
      
      SWIFTY!
      
      BTW, how come you’re writing about Griff, who hasn’t existed as Griff for months, when you’re obviously brand new?
      
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      September 21, 2017 11:44am
      - Gruffydd
        
        Its another version of a certain troll .
        Poor wee thing can not hide its issues.
        
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        September 21, 2017 11:58am
      - starboard
        
        …what are you? A Policeman? Aww thats right, you cant be a copper with criminal convictions can you drippy.
        
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        September 21, 2017 12:14pm
      - Brito
        
        GRIFF, I SAID STAY AWAY FROM THE STILL!! Oh help yourself, no hope.
        
        Actually itstricky I just went back through my patience notes and read up on him. He’s a fascinating read. As for coming in under another name, Griff…GRIFF, STEP BACK FROM THE CHILD!!!! Nope I just read the back story. That’s why the House Elf is now a target (Gobby).
        
        This is fun.
        
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        September 21, 2017 12:14pm
      - itstricky
        
        Griff… Was just about to say ‘perhaps it’s starboard’ and wadda ya know…
        
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        September 21, 2017 12:16pm
      - starboard
        
        Ya boyfriend MM thinks I’m some bloke called dirty harry or something. You guys take far too many drugs.
        
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        September 21, 2017 12:55pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        Yeah Story any minute now we will start inventing imaginary tours of duty with whisky three and moving to a foreign country to root some bar slut.
        Or is it only lonely old drunks who have such vivid imaginations ?
        
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        September 21, 2017 1:03pm
      - starboard
        
        Roll up another doobie ya sifter
        
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        September 21, 2017 1:30pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Love your work Anne.
  
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  September 21, 2017 12:29pm
- KevOB
  
  Anne you have disturbed the trolls. Truth, even if it is expressed as a well discerned opinion, bothers them.
  
  I agree with all that you say.
  
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  September 21, 2017 4:29pm
cmm

Has anyone else checked out what a BA in Communications actually entails?

http://www.waikato.ac.nz/study/qualifications/bachelor-of-communication-studies

Basically some stuff on how media works, how to write press releases, how to do a bit of media research etc.

Basically journalism without the rigor required for writing skills.

It makes a basket-weaving degree look useful.
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September 21, 2017 10:58am
- itstricky
  
  So you think marketers and public relations people have no place in this world?
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:37am
- Jack5
  
  Here’s what it says on the Waikato site:
  
  You will gain the up-to-date skills required to become a strategy-based communication, marketing or public relations specialist.
  
  Marketing is a bit wider than this and ought to include statistics and economics and probably a bit of accounting. Take that stuff out and you pretty much have a PR degree.
  
  With the economic crashing of the print media, and TV facing electronic obsolescence and recruiting in decline, universities and polytechnics turn their old journalism courses into this sort of education.
  
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  September 21, 2017 12:56pm
  - JasonJohns
    
    A lot of people think the late Sir Noel Hilliam was only about the ancient European civilisations that visited NZ. But he also discovered our lost Incan and Aztec heritage, eg http://www.gavinmenzies.net/Evidence/2-ruins-may-show-incas-beat-maoris-to-new-zealand/
    
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    September 21, 2017 12:58pm
    - Jack5
      
      Hi Kea!
      
      Nice one, getting Incas and Aztecs into NZ history – in the middle of an exchange about PR degrees.
      
      But you could make it more interesting: perhaps a UFO base at Bluff, with Tall Whites (a.k.a. Space Brothers) from the Pleiades being the ultimate sources of the blue eyes of many in the Ngai Tahu tribe.
      
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      September 21, 2017 1:05pm
      - JasonJohns
        
        Pfft. Stay on the subject Jack5. I’m no saint but at least I can set out to do that.
        
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        September 21, 2017 1:09pm
    - rangitoto
      
      What about the ancient Greeks? I’m certain Hercules was here back in the day. I saw a programme about Hercules on TV once and I’m sure I saw NZ scenery in the background.
      
      It was on TV so it must be true.
      
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      September 21, 2017 1:46pm
    - Gabby
      
      Why did he cover up the alien visits and theempire of the lizard people jizzyjocks. Will we ever know what he was hiding.
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:11pm
rightoverlabour

Has Jacinda conceded with #noregrets?

Also why do they make the obvious mistake of telling the people that Bill has done a good job with finances? (Not that he has not, but in politics you don’t highlight the good in an opponent). She is a genuinely decent person full of enthusiasm, but she is not a political party leader, nor a future PM. She has made too many elementary, fatal mistakes. But she is someone I would be happy to have a beer with!
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September 21, 2017 11:20am
Digmen1

Yes she keeps saying National and Bill ahve doen a god job!
That is not the way to be an oppositon leader!
(even if she is right!)
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September 21, 2017 11:42am
JasonJohns

Noel Hilliam discoverer of ancient NZ civilisations dead
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11921155
Suspicious timing?
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September 21, 2017 11:47am
- Jack5
  
  Kea, are you talking about skull duggery?
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:06pm
- Gabby
  
  He’ll know now jizzyjocks. If not he won’t be bothered any more.
  
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  September 21, 2017 4:03pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Someone – get the tranqilliser gun.
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:49pm
RF

FFS.. the media is being saturated with Ardern either putting on her best funeral voice on radio / TV or her airbrushed photos popping up in written media. Thank god this will crease midnight tomorrow.

This is a tactic Frau Clark used immediately prior to Election Day. From memory her PR person is also minding Mini-Me Ardern.

It’s a big turn off as the more I hear / see her I know she is on the back foot and dropping in the polls.

Her comment that Bill English was “profoundly so unfair” is so funny. Reminds me of an adolescent child stamping her feet for not getting her own way.
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September 21, 2017 11:50am
- Kimbo
  
  “profoundly so unfair”
  
  Not “absolutely”, “utterly”, “truly” or “completely”? 😉 Is always a dead give away they are rolling a turd in glitter when they breach Kimbo’s law*! 😉
  
  * “in blogworld, the validity of a statement is in inverse proportion to the use of emphatic adverbs”.
  
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  September 21, 2017 11:53am
  - krazykiwi
    
    I see Kimbo’s law has been the subject of continuous improvement.
    
    This from 11 months ago:
    
    “in blogworld the validity of an argument is in direct inverse proportion to the excessive and unnecessary use of adverbs”
    
    Modern software product development principles at work in a literary context. Well done 🙂
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:59pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Thank you. Yes, Kimbo’s law Mk II was gazetted in the form of a public service announcement here on Kiwiblog a few months ago, and was received with the usual…enthusiasm that its mention elicits. ?
      
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      September 21, 2017 10:29pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Enthusiasm? You mean you weren’t held high and paraded through the streets to a cacophony of professional bands, excessive ticker-tape and chants of “Person of the year!”?!?
        
        Clearly National’s fault.
        
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        September 21, 2017 10:36pm
- noskire
  
  But comrade, it is so profoundly unfair that the people want change, even if they don’t know it.
  
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  September 21, 2017 12:58pm
4077th

Good on Leo and I agree it is his call to make and he made the right one based on the ape’s behaviour. Want to look like a window-licking mong and scribble all over yourself? There will, in time, be consequences!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11924672
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September 21, 2017 11:52am
- Longknives
  
  Agreed- I don’t want to go to a Restaurant and have Scribble Faces trying to intimidate me and my family (and don’t believe the bullshit- That’s the ONLY reason they do it)
  Good call Leo- Behind you 100%
  
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  September 21, 2017 12:08pm
- GoVege
  
  Would you please stop using that term “mong”!!
  People with down syndrome are a lot more intelligent than you realise.
  And definitely nicer than “normal” people.
  
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  September 21, 2017 3:51pm
  - 4077th
    
    Alright, I’ll substitute it for Gabby..They re the same thing after all.
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:25pm
  - Piniwi
    
    No Downs people are called Nunu’s by their carers.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:07pm
- Gabby
  
  There was a bloke used to lick windows back in the 8063rd. There was a cold winter. Nuff said.
  
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  September 21, 2017 4:01pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Nurse, double up the medication…..
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:50pm
    - Gabby
      
      Donkey wee isn’t medication. And there’s no nurse. Back in the 8063rd we had nurses. Starfish would say ‘whooarr’ and ‘oooer miss’. Then he’d get a jumbo suppository.
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:08pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Had to chuckle there, gobster 🙂
        
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        September 21, 2017 9:50pm
noskire

The Newshub poll to be released tonight has National with an 8 percentage point lead over Labour, and NZF has overtaken the Greens who are now just at 5%.
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September 21, 2017 12:13pm
Jack5

The British hounding of its soldiers continues.

Troops, including one decorated for bravery, cleared of an incident in which an Iraqi died, face a fresh inquiry.

This is similar to NZ activists like Hagar the Horrible and NZ media teams trying to pin accusations on our soldiers in Afghanistan.

Is it true that now a lawyer accompanies our troops when they serve in places such as Afghanistan?

The West seems to be suffering some sort of psychotic episode. Let’s hope it’s temporary.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/20/scandal-british-troops-cleared-iraq-death-14-years-ago-now-facing/
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September 21, 2017 12:47pm
- kowtow
  
  It’s nothing short of treachery , all on the back of a pretence to care about ‘uman rights and equality.
  
  You see they’re also going after even older cases from Northern Ireland?
  
  All this under a Conservative gummint!
  
  It’s the gutless politicians who sit at home but send these men to do their dirty work and then when it’s over shit all over them ,who should be on trial.
  
  No wonder they find it so hard to fill the ranks these days.
  
  All the while failing to protect their borders and giving asylum to the enemy.
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:45pm
- GoVege
  
  No, they carry cameras now to protect them from accusations of misconduct.
  Like coppers in America do…well some anyway.
  
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  September 21, 2017 3:48pm
  - kowtow
    
    How about pollies wear cameras? They’re the ones doing the real damage and who need to be kept under control.
    
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    September 21, 2017 6:20pm
Monique Watson

Once apon a time, There was a cunt.

It was you,
The End.
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September 21, 2017 12:49pm
- Brito
  
  Explain. Sorry I miss the thread of your logic. Willing to hear your point of view.
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:24pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  What’s that about, Monique?
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:32pm
SteveRemmington

Wife and I just made a family event of voting.

Took the 3 kids down to vote (2 first timers and the other, his second time doing his civic duty).

5 Ticks Blue
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September 21, 2017 12:54pm
- Zapper
  
  Woops, accidentally clicked report before reply…
  
  Hopefully 10 ticks?
  
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  September 21, 2017 2:33pm
- GoVege
  
  How do you know that?
  It’s supposed to be a secret ballot.
  Unless they’re as thick as their parents and need assistance. .. 🙂
  
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  September 21, 2017 3:45pm
- lifesgood
  
  What a well brought up family!
  
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  September 21, 2017 3:57pm
Steve (North Shore)

Someone must have changed the door lock at the asylum – quite a few missing today. Maybe they just got the meds right
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September 21, 2017 12:56pm
- GoVege
  
  They’re out campaigning you twit!
  (I’d be joining them but I got a gammy leg.)
  
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  September 21, 2017 3:53pm
Dafixeruppa

I just tried onthefence.co.nz and found out that I should be an ACT supporter.
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September 21, 2017 12:59pm
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  Thanks for that. I’ve never heard of that site before. Just tried it and it came out with my real voting preferences – in stark contrast to VoteCompass which always seem to direct me to Labour. Interesting.
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:45pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Me too, but only just.
  But I was a long way away from Labour/Green and that made me feel good.
  
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  September 21, 2017 5:22pm
JasonJohns

Vote for hygiene.
#TwoTicksBlue
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September 21, 2017 1:00pm
Surely Knott

RNZ: Mongrel Mob have received a personal visit from 2 Electoral commission staff encouraging them to vote. I didn’t receive a personal onsite visit of electoral commission staff at my workplace encouraging me to vote. Does it skew the vote when certain organisations are cherry picked to have staff coming with your enrolment form and getting you to vote. Of course it does.
Why aren’t other groups , maybe young building apprentices, getting personalised visits with the enrolment forms bought to them and staff to help them fill out the form and no doubt post it for them. They just need to have a system that is fair and consistent , and it’s not.
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September 21, 2017 1:03pm
- Jack5
  
  Bang on, Surely Knott. The Electoral Commission seems to have become quite activist.
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:09pm
  - Paulus
    
    Early Voting is wrong.
    Whilst there are reasons proof should be given first.
    
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    September 21, 2017 2:26pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Free KFC??
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:38pm
- GoVege
  
  That’s because the poor little fellas are all illiterate!
  
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  September 21, 2017 3:42pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  That indeed begs the question. Why them, why not us.
  I had to get in my car and go to a polling booth. I used my petrol, my time etc., and glad to do so.
  What has the Mongrel Mob done to deserve to be singled out for special attention.
  If they are too lazy to get on their bikes and go to a polling booth then ignore them.
  If they are not enrolled charge and fine them. That is the law. The law does not state that they should be treated with kid gloves and personally assisted.
  Of course to enrol you do need a “fixed abode” so that the enrolment confirmation can get to you. this is taking nanny state way too far. They do not deserve a vote, they are takers and create victims in their path with no thought but their own self.
  
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  September 21, 2017 3:49pm
  - GoVege
    
    True,fluffy, but that’s mostly down to their shocking upbringings.
    They should have been taken off their 13 year old mums at birth, and today they would be fine upstanding citizens.
    And their mums should have been taken off their mums and so on….
    Or better still, pay young girls to use long-term contraception, not pay them to drag up babies with a succession of loser boyfriends.
    
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    September 21, 2017 7:29pm
starboard

Hi MM. Hope you are ok. Must be mighty frustrating having to read all of these comments without being able to reply to them in your usual snide way..*snigger*. Remember, 2 ticks Blue on Saturday..
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September 21, 2017 1:34pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Maybe his mum could let you know how he is, Sbd.
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:36pm
- Gabby
  
  Tulixpu starfishy.
  
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  September 21, 2017 3:55pm
- Brito
  
  Gobby you Little House Elf. I think I heard a wee quiver of fear in your tone. Or was it admiration???
  
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  September 21, 2017 4:10pm
  - Gabby
    
    I think you heard your colon squishing Brillo. It’s all that soap.
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:49pm
starboard

True Don, I’m catching up with her tonight so I will sound her out.
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September 21, 2017 1:42pm
- Brito
  
  Two timing cow, I thought she said she was coming over to my place (after Griff’s mum leaves).
  
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  September 21, 2017 1:50pm
  - Gruffydd
    
    Mums been burnt then scattered into the wind at Caerphilly Castle .
    
    A handy little personal hygiene rule if you must have sex with the long dead and burnt.
    To much screwing ashes will grind your knob end off ..
    
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    September 21, 2017 2:01pm
    - Brito
      
      WHAT’S THAT GRIFF, THE STILL BLEW UP? WHAT’S THE RESULTING CARBON FOOTPRINT OF CREMATION? AND PRAY TELL..I SAID (LOUDER NOW) HOW DO YOU KNOW ASH SCREWING DIMINISHES YOUR KNOB LENGTH?
      
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      September 21, 2017 2:13pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        Poor wee thing….
        
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        September 21, 2017 2:18pm
      - Gabby
        
        Brillo you soapy little scrubber, is your knob shorter than fatcambo’s now?
        
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        September 21, 2017 3:54pm
    - rangitoto
      
      “A handy little personal hygiene rule if you must have sex with the long dead and burnt.
      To much screwing ashes will grind your knob end off ..”
      
      We don’t want to know what you get up to on your own time Griff.
      
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      September 21, 2017 2:28pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        It wasn’t for me it was for the troll.
        I keep it to real live woman with nice clean bits not the long dead and burnt mothers of random internet commenters.
        I used ash as a grinding paste to polish my mates 500 triumph crank case long ago. Such experience informs the wise that using your knob to screw the dead’s ashes is going to cause abrasion issues.
        
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        September 21, 2017 5:55pm
      - starboard
        
        Freak
        
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        September 21, 2017 8:45pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        Yes ~~port~~starboard.
        Tell us more about sticking around after the fall of Saigon to “clean up” .
        Its interesting to hear the story’s of old heroes like you and Ron Marks.
        
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        September 21, 2017 8:57pm
- Gabby
  
  You dirty sod. You dirty old man.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:04pm
  - Brito
    
    Gobby unleashed. Are you getting moist little one???
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:08pm
    - Gabby
      
      You work better when you’re plunged in hot water don’t you Brillo.
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:50pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Shitlicker. MEDIC!
        Funny how we never see you and ztev in the same room.
        
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        September 21, 2017 8:55pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        Oh look its agent teabag .
        Hows the shinny new hall monitor badge treating you scroty?
        
        Yeah yeah we know “fuck off” is the extent of your wit.
        
        Seen the latest odds ?
        Trump Impeachment Specials – Donald Trump Betting Odds – Paddy …
        http://www.paddypower.com › Home › Politics › Politics
        
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        September 21, 2017 9:17pm
      - Shawn Herles
        
        “Yeah yeah we know “fuck off” is the extent of your wit.”
        
        So quite a bit larger than yours then. 🙂
        
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        September 21, 2017 9:21pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        Jesus and Mohammad .
        
        You think I have issues ?
        
        Magic hands that grow back.
        
        That must have been some mean peyote in the medicine tent Ke-mo sah-bee.
        
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        September 21, 2017 9:35pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Ohhhh sweetie
        Dont bet the boat on it Griffly.
        #2020Trump
        
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        September 21, 2017 9:37pm
gorse

I can’t see any difference between National saying Labour will increase income tax by them cancelling a tax cut and Labour saying National has cut health spending by not keeping up with population and inflation. If National are lying so are they.
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September 21, 2017 2:28pm
- rangitoto
  
  There are more doctors and nurses employed by the DHB’s per head of population today than when KKlarkenfuhrer was running the country. They wasted the money on middle managers.
  
  The commies always seem to judge success on how much they spend instead of what is achieved.
  
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  September 21, 2017 2:31pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Exactly, it’s about output, not the amount spent.
    This guest post on Whaleoil is quite instructive
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/09/a-doctors-perspective/
    
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    September 21, 2017 2:46pm
  - Gabby
    
    So now there are clinical staff wasting their time doing admin badly. You’re a genius.
    
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    September 21, 2017 3:52pm
    - Brito
      
      Gobby, report to Slithering House immediately. It’s pants down and cane out for you my girl.
      
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      September 21, 2017 4:11pm
      - Gabby
        
        Fatcambo doesn’t call his ashy stump a cane now does he Brillo? Give it a good scrub, especially the nooks and crannies.
        
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        September 21, 2017 5:47pm
    - GazzaW
      
      Have you heard of technology Gobby?
      
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      September 21, 2017 5:23pm
      - Gabby
        
        Sure guzzla, the paperless office produces 10 x the quantity of paper. Everybody gets to report to everybody. All the time.
        
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        September 21, 2017 5:45pm
Jack5

With Myanmar/Burma driving out Muslims, be prepared for the UN to select hundreds, perhaps thousands of these folk for New Zealand resettlement.

Here’s an indication of hazards of taking in Myanmar/Burma Muslim refugees:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-20/mother-groom-warned-marriage-to-14yo-melbourne-girl-illegal/8964056
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September 21, 2017 3:40pm
- realityczech
  
  You sound like a fan the great Adolf Hitler’s policies.
  
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  September 21, 2017 5:56pm
  - Jack5
    
    Kea (5.56), you know well that Adolf Hitler was a mate of Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, the Palestinian Muslim who was Mufti of Jerusalem.
    
    Hitler also had a Bosnian Muslim unit in his SS.
    
    This is from the History Today web site:
    
    … the SS saw the Muslims as welcome allies and promoted Nazi Germany as a protector of Islam in South-eastern Europe. The campaign began in Spring 1943, when the SS sent the Mufti of Jerusalem on a tour to Zagreb, Banja Luka and Sarajevo, where he met religious leaders and gave pro-Axis speeches. When visiting the grand Gazi Husrev Beg Mosque in Sarajevo, he gave such an emotional speech about Muslim suffering that parts of the audience burst into tears.
    
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    September 21, 2017 7:15pm
- kowtow
  
  The Bengalis have a penchant for murdering bloggers , we can do without that “cultural” practice here.
  
  ‘The murder fitted into a pattern laid down over a gruesome three-year killing spree by extremist groups in Bangladesh: a bloody but brutal attack in broad daylight with the most basic of weapons, and later a claim of responsibility from Islamic State (Isis) or al-Qaida.’
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/11/bangladesh-murders-bloggers-foreigners-religion
  
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  September 21, 2017 6:16pm
Swifty

More Labour nastiness on open display…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11924945

They really are the nasty party, full of nasty people.
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September 21, 2017 4:11pm
- Gabby
  
  Did Jake want his fwag back sweaty. He can sit wif Wussel and have a cwy.
  
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  September 21, 2017 6:11pm
  - Brito
    
    There’s that speech impediment again. If you press down with your mouth on the withdrawal the teeth will follow. Wider!!! C’mon wider and I bet you’re popular around at Griff’s retirement home.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:10pm
    - Gabby
      
      You’re getting rusty Brillo, little strands are starting to pull loose, you’ll not be a pad much longer.
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:48pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Bedtime summons, Gobby – you need to take your dummy with you, and don’t forget to give teddy bear a cuddle.
        
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        September 21, 2017 9:56pm
Happychappy

Chuck are the fan club of Winston Peters dying off or have the faithful sickened of his bullshit with only a small crowd of just over Fifty turning up to his rally in our largest City Auckland. Is this the beginning of the end for Winston and will he be able to hold Northland with it looking like people are deserting him for other Parties.
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September 21, 2017 4:18pm
- GazzaW
  
  The current crop of baby boomers were never going to be NZF cannon fodder. A good percentage are still working full or part time and lead very active lifestyles. They (and I) have nothing in common with Winston’s supporters, we don’t want to be associated with the likes of Greypower, don’t hold a Goldcard and the embarassment of asking or even being offered a pensioner’s discount is too dreadful to contemplate. NZF is on a downward terminal spiral as its aging supporters inevitably fall off their perches.
  
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  September 21, 2017 5:19pm
  - realityczech
    
    What clever little sheeple mindlessly repeating the propaganda fed to you by Winston’s opponents.
    
    Just do as you are told and you will be safe.
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:27pm
BananaLlama

Alot of you are going to have sore arses if you are counting on NZF not making 5%
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September 21, 2017 4:23pm
- All_on_Red
  
  They’re also not doing the math.
  To be sure of blocking Labour out the best odds are Nat/NZF coalition.
  Relying on just Act and MP means the Nats have to get 47% +
  
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  September 21, 2017 4:55pm
  - Prince
    
    Rather have Labour govt than have Winston. His policies more left than Greens.
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:55pm
DifferentPerspective

Hone Harawira got hurty feelings

At an Auckland Uni debate, after Hone accuses Chris Bishop and National of being lazy bastards. (starts at about 1:30:30 into the debate)

Chris Bishop returns by pointing out who the lazy one is in that Hone turned up to Parliament so little a special law had to be passed especially to fine him for never being there.

Hone then descends into an expletive filled rant, eff this, eff that and starts threatening Bishop.

The fact that this racist, abusive animal even has a chance of being in Parliament at the next term proves once again what an utterly retarded electoral system MMP is.
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September 21, 2017 4:24pm
- GoVege
  
  The man apologised!
  Let’s hope Bishop has learned to never aggravate a hot-blooded Polynesian dude again. 🙂
  
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  September 21, 2017 6:29pm
  - GoVege
    
    Had to laugh at the remark that the Greens leader managed to calm everybody with a “boring” speech.
    He may be boring…but I still voted for him!
    
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    September 21, 2017 6:31pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      You voted for the Greens?
      But just the other day you were talking about ‘us Nats’
      You’re so full of it.
      
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      September 21, 2017 6:35pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Quelle surprise.
      Rolls eyes.
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:59pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”a hot-blooded Polynesian dude “…..
    
    You’re mistaken. He’s a quick tempered racist prick who’s never learnt self control.
    
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    September 21, 2017 6:40pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    You’re admonishing the victim of Hone’s angry tirade .. that he should ‘learn’ something?
    
    Pffft. If Hone’s anger had been directed at Chlöe Swarbrick you would have gone postal
    
    Admit it.
    
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    September 21, 2017 10:29pm
Fisiani

In Australia you can bet on the NZ election and in the last 24hrs the odds have changed from $1.83 each to $1.83 v $1.91 for National v Labour. in other words someone has put a very large bet on National to win. $100,000 gets $183,000 in 48 hours
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September 21, 2017 4:32pm
- Fisiani
  
  Now $1.80 v $1.96
  
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  September 21, 2017 6:04pm
  - Gabby
    
    Uncle Jian found out about the ballots going home with workers.
    
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    September 21, 2017 6:06pm
sooty

How stupid can you get? Someone sets them selves on fire outside parliament. Idiot. There’s no one there. Everybody is out electionering!
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September 21, 2017 4:44pm
- Muttonbird
  
  All’s not well in NZ when someone takes action like that. I wonder if there’ll be a post about it here?
  
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  September 21, 2017 5:02pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    well there goes that prayer.
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:09pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Stupid thing setting yourself on fire. Never going to end well and literally you’d have to be nuts, or more politically correctly out of your gourd to do such a thing. No sane person would do such an awful thing. ?
    
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    September 21, 2017 5:11pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      You would have to be nuts. And also not getting the mental health treatment you are entitled to.
      
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      September 21, 2017 5:14pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        MB, even those with mental health issues would admit it would only be those who have very serious and possibly a particular mental illness to take that route off this mortal coil.
        
        Is that a factor d4J. I guess that had something to do with it being deemed a crime scene. Sorry if it pushed whoever over the edge, but still say an awful way to end it all.
        
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        September 21, 2017 6:00pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Listen muttonhead.
        It was Labour under Klark that closed all the mental health facilities and sent them out onto the streets – craziest thing ever done. Those people were in a secure comfortable environment where they felt safe.
        But no, out on th streets for Joe public to deal with – the drugs, intimdation, abusive language and behaviour – urinating and defecating in public.
        You haven’t got a bloody clue.
        
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        September 21, 2017 7:35pm
      - nasska
        
        Not quite right Don. The move to implement one of the greatest cons ever foisted on NZ, AKA Community Care, was started by the queen of all bitches, Jenny Shipley.
        
        Helen Clark finished the job off & the mentally ill have shuffled between prison & the streets ever since.
        
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        September 21, 2017 7:47pm
      - fluffykiwi
        
        “Entitled” would have to be the worst word out there. Who says anyone is entitled to anything.
        
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        September 21, 2017 8:47pm
    - dad4justice
      
      Ever been shafted in the Family Court cowgirl?
      
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      September 21, 2017 5:39pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      When I was about 10 years old we heard sirens rushing past our house. Being curious children we ran up the street following them. Got to the scene and there was a smoldering human being on the lawn along with a terrible smell. Turns out it was a teacher who had been accused of things. Never forgot the impact. Circa 1978
      
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      September 21, 2017 10:13pm
  - Longknives
    
    “All’s not well in NZ when someone takes action like that”
    
    In 2004 I helped extinguish the flames on a person who committed suicide by immolating himself in front of us.
    It was an absolutely Horrific experience that stays with me to this day.
    Not once did I blame Helen Clark or the Labour Government.
    You are a fucking dropkick. And so typical of the scum on the Left who have been using any ‘Grief Porn’ they can to attack National this campaign…
    
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    September 21, 2017 6:15pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Muttonhead as the old saying goes “Play with fire you get burn’t” was he trying to make a point about mental health.
    
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    September 21, 2017 7:02pm
    - Gabby
      
      No it’s about you lighting your prune farts crappy.
      
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      September 21, 2017 7:57pm
- Gabby
  
  You’re the expert SOOTY.
  
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  September 21, 2017 6:05pm
  - Brito
    
    ATTENTION GOBBY. REPORT TO HEADMASTERS OFFICE FOR INSERTION.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:12pm
    - Gabby
      
      Don’t go there Brillo, you’ll just end up diving for soap again. No good will come of that.
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:45pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Natural selection is a beautiful thing.
  
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  September 21, 2017 7:43pm
- Piniwi
  
  Apparently he had some burning issues to be noticed this election.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:21pm
waikatogirl

This morning on TV3 breakfast show the media finally put a spotlight on Liarbors proposed industrial relations after the election. An employment lawyer was interviewed and showed serious concern. She was an employment lawyer during the longest strike in NZ history of 87 days and stated going back to those conditions were extremely concerning for the country.

Duncan Garner stated perhaps the media were remiss in not covering these policies until 2 days out from the election.

You think! ?
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September 21, 2017 5:05pm
realityczech

CLIMATE CHANGE WILL TAKE LONGER, SAY SCIENTISTS

Date: 19/09/17 Dr David Whitehouse, GWPF Science Editor
A new paper written by scientists from six nations says that the slowdown in global temperatures in the early 20th century means that global warming will take longer than the IPCC predicted.

https://www.thegwpf.com/climate-change-will-take-longer-say-scientists/
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September 21, 2017 5:12pm
- Jack5
  
  That’s bad luck for your dream of banana plantations in Southland, Griff.
  
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  September 21, 2017 6:55pm
dad4justice

Is the gender bias Family Court guilty again?
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/person-sets-fire-to-themselves-at-parliament/ar-AAshxGM?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=UP97DHP
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September 21, 2017 5:34pm
- nasska
  
  I’d hazard a guess that you’re right Dad. The pro feminist bias shown by NZ’s Family Court is palpable.
  
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  September 21, 2017 6:29pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Of course I am right nothing on the news about this fuck why bother voting for anybody in a fucked up country of callous pricks. God help this cess pit country!
    
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    September 21, 2017 7:19pm
    - Nookin
      
      Another possibility, Dad, is that this guy was seriously unhinged and a menace to the kids. Have you thought that out? Does the name Edward Livingstone ring a bell or was he another victim, too?
      
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      September 21, 2017 7:52pm
      - dad4justice
        
        As I would expect the maggot lawyer Nookin has oozed out from the carcass of deceit and manipulation. How many fathers – forced clients of the family court have committed suicide this year 300 or 400? Your type will be judged according to your despicable actions and your destiny is horrific. Enjoy your gravy train you sadistic creep!
        
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        September 21, 2017 8:05pm
      - Jack5
        
        A report on Livingstone and his terrible murder of his children can be reached at the link below.
        
        Everyone was looking for someone to blame, but finally the evidence is that Livingstone was evil – a psychopath and a narcissist.
        
        It would have been hard to stop him legally, though perhaps the gun owner could have been more careful about the key to his gun safe.
        
        As Nookin implies, Livingstone is a good case for strong protection of separated women and their children.
        
        The report talks of teams to monitor such people. That would surely choke the health system. If Livingstone’s estranged wife had been able to have a compact little .32 Magnum revolver or similar, the kids might have been alive and Livingstone dead or, recovered, safely stowed away in prison.
        
        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/67975588/killer-dad-edward-livingstone-was-a-sex-addict
        
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        September 21, 2017 8:14pm
      - stigie
        
        Easy Dad, you sound a bit upset, the poor polling of Winston getting to you ole chap..?
        
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        September 21, 2017 8:15pm
      - nasska
        
        While there are more than a few men & women who need to be kept apart for their own sakes I don’t accept that other than a minuscule fraction of separated or divorced men are in any way a risk to their own children.
        
        Someone has to make the call & family court judges step up to make the decisions. Their overbearing caution, however, means that many kids grow up without seeing their fathers all due to the uncorroborated, blubby, orchestrated evidence of a woman who hates her former partner.
        
        This is bad for the kids & bad for society.
        
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        September 21, 2017 8:27pm
    - Nookin
      
      Dad, I put a simple and plausible possibility to you and rather than debate the point you go all potty-mouthed and abusive. You have major anger issues. Maybe you should have accepted counselling by Mikenmild.
      Your track record on this site suggests that if you ever had issues in the family court then they were quite likely of your own making.
      
      Nasska — yes there are liars who make false accusations and there are judges who play safe. Judges get blasted by the likes of dad for giving bail to someone who immediately offends and then, in the next breath, for issuing a DV order against someone accused of violence and threats. Sometimes they just cannot win.
      I am not saying that the system is perfect but I am not going to let dickheads like dad make idiot comments without challenge.
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:54pm
      - nasska
        
        Accepted Nookin. My rather verbose comment was intended to push the fact that although there are men who will threaten to pulp their ex partners & could well follow through I still doubt that they present much in the way of risk to their biological children.
        
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        September 21, 2017 9:00pm
      - dad4justice
        
        “Your track record on this site suggests that if you ever had issues in the family court then they were quite likely of your own making.”
        
        Wrong Nookin false allegations ever heard of them? Fact that I can prove and you can soon read about. As for anger issues I think you will get angry when you read my story creep.
        
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        September 21, 2017 9:08pm
VicParking

The MSM are polishing a turd with their poll tgat says Labour were right in changing their tax policy.
The truth is they f**ked it up and had to change their policy.
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September 21, 2017 6:17pm
- Gabby
  
  So when you fuck shit up VicBarking, you just swear blind that you got it right, jawsie style.
  
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  September 21, 2017 7:55pm
  - Brito
    
    Ok the nice people are coming around. We can all hear your cry for help. The pleading in your voice is sad and most want to reach out…and gently…but firmly squeeze.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:14pm
Prince

Message to Lloyd Burr.
The current legal tax you are required to pay from April 1 2018 WILL increase under Labour.
That is not a lie.
That is a tax increase.
You are misleading NZers.
You are the liar, and you are clearly biased.
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September 21, 2017 6:23pm
- Ash
  
  Jesus, right wingers are such goddamn liars. So looking forward to you guys returning to your rightful place in opposition.
  
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  September 21, 2017 6:31pm
  - starboard
    
    Past your bedtime gash..away with you.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:32pm
- Jack5
  
  Prince, who is this Lloyd Burp, of whom ye speake?
  
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  September 21, 2017 7:28pm
- Gabby
  
  Whadda liar paw prints, you won’t be paying more taxes then than you are now. That’s not an increase except in Binglish.
  
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  September 21, 2017 7:53pm
  - Brito
    
    Red Alert! Red Alert! True colours are coming out! Publicly you’re Red. But in private…Rainbow. Aren’t you Gobby! Standing there with your hairy legged girl friends all BO and Bad Breath.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:17pm
    - Gabby
      
      Put some elbow grease into it Brillo. You’re soap impregnated for a reason you know. Where’s Jason Evil?
      
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      September 21, 2017 8:42pm
  - Prince
    
    But more than I would pay in April.
    Geddit ?
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:18pm
Ash

That guy at parliament is really enjoying his ‘lighter future’ or perhaps it’s ‘delivering for emergency departments?’
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September 21, 2017 6:28pm
- krazykiwi
  
  That is tasteless & heartless. You, sir, are lower than pond scum.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:44pm
  - nasska
    
    The touchy/feely caring Left at their best.
    
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    September 21, 2017 8:54pm
greybeard

6:30pm
Stuff homepage has 4 images of Jacinda Ardern, and 1 of Bill English.
Situation normal I would say.
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September 21, 2017 6:36pm
- Ash
  
  Are you going to keep crying?
  
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  September 21, 2017 6:42pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Sorry Ash.
    Looks like your multiple benefits will be cut after Saturday.
    Bill is going to romp in. 🙂
    
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    September 21, 2017 7:40pm
Jack5

Is the foreign-student business about to dry up? This is big bucks for NZ universities and the swathe of shaky private institutions.

The Australian report linked to below says a foreign degree is no longer regarded as a “golden collar” in China. Chinese employers are refocusing on Chinese universities and many students returning from overseas studies find it hard to get work.

If this report is accurate, the response of NZ universities and the private training institutions will likely be to fight hard for citizenship to be given away with their courses.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/chinese-students-question-australian-education-sending-chills-through-industry-20170919-gykfgi.html
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September 21, 2017 6:54pm
- Ross12
  
  It is accurate Jack5. When I was in China last year I heard about that.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:55pm
Prince

On Sunday, NZ enters daylight savings, and the clocks move forward.
There are 23 hours in the day on Sunday 24th September.
If the Govt were to cancel daylight savings, they would be increasing the hours on Sunday, to 24 hours.
We would describe that as increasing the number of hours in that day.
Except Burr and his ‘team’ would announce that was a lie.
What a clown.
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September 21, 2017 6:58pm
- Jack5
  
  There you go again, about this Lloyd Burp. Who he?
  
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  September 21, 2017 7:29pm
  - JasonJohns
    
    Hi Jack. Jason Johns here.
    
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    September 21, 2017 7:34pm
    - Jack5
      
      Bloody (mountain) parrots – great at mimicry.
      
      In Kiwiblog they’re all around us, taking the piss.
      
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      September 21, 2017 7:39pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Piss off JJ,
      you’re not Lloyd Burr.
      
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      September 21, 2017 10:06pm
  - Prince
    
    Newshub’s Labour implant. Announced English was lying on 3 News.
    And here he is again.
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/09/lloyd-burr-labour-s-frustration-over-lies-comes-too-late.html
    
    He’s the liar.
    
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    September 21, 2017 7:49pm
    - Brigitte
      
      As I said elsewhere I think people can see through that and will regard this as dirty politics which could easily help National (ironically similar to the effect of Hager’s Dirty Politics last time where voters felt it was him that was being dirty).
      
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      September 21, 2017 7:56pm
waikatogirl

Prince, great example to explain the tax increase if Liarbor win. Cindy and Liarbor don’t want to know, they have their heads in the sand so Liarbor should change their name to the Ostrich pardy.

Unicorns and relentless positivity will only take the believers so far but sadly it will be after the election they realise they have been duped… ?
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September 21, 2017 7:20pm
Jack5

The sort of party that would liven up an NZ election – a satirical party:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/21/die-partei-satirical-german-party-facebook-afd-angela-merkel-cdu
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September 21, 2017 7:37pm
- Brigitte
  
  Do you know if any of their candidates are on a benefit and illegally collecting rent?
  
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  September 21, 2017 7:49pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  You mean like the McGillicuddies Jack?
  Problem is they start taking themselves seriously and the country pays for it.
  #MeTui
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I’m wondering if any well-off religious institution would like me to administer their finances?

I can promise that I will siphon off less than $1.6 M.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/97080614
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September 21, 2017 8:28pm
- nasska
  
  …..”I will siphon off less than $1.6 M”…..
  
  Don’t be a piker…..there’s plenty more dosh where that came from.
  
  Pass the collection plate past the gullible & they’ll dig deep to get on the right side of their imaginary friend. 🙂
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:45pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Buddy, you need to get churched! We use an eftpos terminal 🙂
    
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    September 21, 2017 9:25pm
    - nasska
      
      That would make it a bit too private for some KK. I can remember back to my own wretched childhood experiences at the House of the Godbotherers. All the interesting things I could have been doing with my mates & there I was, dressed up like a little ponce. Bored shitless, listening to utter garbage about magic & watching big noting wankers dropping their half a crown in the plate from a height calculated to make the loudest noise.
      
      Pontificating onanists……I’ve seen the lot. 🙂
      
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      September 21, 2017 9:36pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Heh! Those big noting wankers probably couldn’t read. Had they looked at Matthew 6:1 …
        
        “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven
        
        Also, I’d delicately suggest you’ve seen ‘a lot’, but not ‘the lot’ 😉
        
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        September 21, 2017 10:20pm
      - Gabby
        
        Old habits die hard judging by your outfit.
        
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        September 22, 2017 8:15am
- AgentBallSack
  
  South Auckland “poverty”.
  Churches and loan sharks do well out of it.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:25pm
Piniwi

In a last desperate bid Taxinda is focusing on the youth vote. Sorry deary just because they are the size of two people they still only get the two vote. Is it a subliminal message that she is always surrounded by such big lumps?
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September 21, 2017 8:33pm
- Gabby
  
  Pini wini people don’t get fewer votes do they.
  
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  September 21, 2017 8:39pm
starboard

Hope that wasn’t MM who burnt himself today, it was only a weeks ban you stupid fool, nothing to get to hot about…
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September 21, 2017 8:38pm
RF

I caught part of a broadcast from Jamie McKay at noon today. This is the ZB Rural programme.

He was interviewing someone from the farming community who pointed out that farmers are very concerned about the anti rural publicity and many are holding off committing purchasing more farm machinary and upgrading their farms etc…

It was throwing the problem back in Labours face and I hope like hell this results in votes for National.

I know a few farmers who historically never bothered to vote but now they are so concerned they will so I hope this balances out the youth vote that Ardern is chasing.

Exciting times ahead. Roll on Saturday.
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September 21, 2017 9:12pm
nasska

The checkout chick told me “strip down, facing me”.

How the hell was I meant to know she was talking about my credit card?
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September 21, 2017 9:22pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Did she ask you, “what’s that?”
  and you replied,”It’s called a penis.”
  She said, “Oh – it’s just like a cock, only smaller.”
  
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  September 21, 2017 10:12pm
AgentBallSack

Any reason why Stuff print “Opinions” on how National have raped our chickens, destroyed our economy, eaten babies, then close the comments 30 minutes later, when they don’t get the response they want?
Oxford Comma rules BTW.
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September 21, 2017 9:29pm
All_on_Red

Wow, chećk out Lloyd Burrs twitter account.
Talk about all in for Jacinda.
This Election has seen Journalists preferences totally revealed.
DIE MSM DIE.
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September 21, 2017 9:33pm
- Prince
  
  Just had a look. Unbelievable ! Clark gaysford would be proud if that. And he calls himself a journalist !!
  Fanboy extraordinaire.
  
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  September 21, 2017 9:51pm
Fletch

Just saw this meme on Facebook –

It’s bizarre that Australians would be homophobic. G’day is literally ‘gay’ with the ‘d’ rammed into it.
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September 21, 2017 10:12pm
Jack5

Details of the paedophile, mass rape of white children in Britain by ethnic-Asian gangs just get worse.

The dividends of diversity, the blessings of multiculturism, the cowardice created by political correctness:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4905000/Asian-sex-gang-victim-writes-book-detailing-ordeal.html
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