General Debate 19 September 2017

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tas

I wonder what the effect of the fuel pipe fiasco will be on the election. Any thoughts?
The opposition are trying to bash the government over it, but they just sound desperate to me — it may backfire. Mostly it seems like a distraction.
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September 19, 2017 8:00am
- Southern Raider
  
  Herald is doing their best as well with main headline about negative impact on National
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:01am
  - oldpark
    
    Yes “fake news” is a speciality, published daily in the trade union infested NZ HERALD . NZ Refinery own the pipe line. Not NZ Government .Sounds to me that the trade union journalists own the Herald. they can say any thing in print to assist the Green/Lie-bour mafias . Dont let the real truth get in the way of a propaganda story ,if it helps a change of Government.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:34am
    - KevOB
      
      The Herald is an interfering Aussie rag. I won’t look at it. Stuff is almost as bad.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:42am
      - igm
        
        Stuff have cut off most comments not pro-Labour/Green. Seems the unelectable ex-leader still holds union clout in media.
        
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        September 19, 2017 9:17am
  - flipper
    
    Yes Southern…. and they lose no opportunity for anti-National motivated dog-whistle political attack. You know, everything Labour and the Redmelons, and their handmaidens in the media, claim to abhor.
    Just a bunch of xyzs ……
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:58am
  - GazzaW
    
    The Herald now has an alarmist headline about service stations running out of fuel. Read into the story and you discover that four service stations temporarily ran out of 95 octane fuel yesterday as Z was prioritising delivery of 91 petrol.
    
    Whilst this is a serious situation contingency measures are working well with airlines managing on their 30% quotas and topping up offshore. Leave the airlines to it, they deal with ‘real’ emergencies worldwide on a daily basis – traffic controllers strikes in Europe, major weather systems in the USA, airport closures due to terrorism – it’s all part of the aviation game and there’s no money in having aircraft sitting on the ground.
    
    Some support from the MSM would be good right now for the national wellbeing but we’re never going to get that whilst our media is controlled by two Australian-owned left wing corporates.
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:32am
    - tas
      
      Maybe the herald are hoping to cause a bigger crisis by encouraging people to panic buy petrol, thereby causing an actual shortage.
      
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      September 19, 2017 10:00am
      - Paulus
        
        Ir is already working in Auckland I hear on the RNZ News at lunch time.
        Panic buying at some stations Z appear to be bitching hardest.
        
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        September 19, 2017 1:45pm
      - Piniwi
        
        It’s an Auckland issue tas. As far as the main part of NZ south of the Bombay Hills cares it is a localised problem. It will be seen along with all the other localised problems from steady Labour leadership and guidance. Can’t get in and out of Auckland. Stiff cheese.
        
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        September 19, 2017 7:15pm
- krazykiwi
  
  The media are working hard to turn it into a hit-piece on National. Never mind the facts. Just smear away baby!
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:02am
- starboard
  
  Liarbor knew about it in 2005. The fuel companies knew about it before then.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:03am
  - oldgolfer
    
    I am sure people can see it for what it is: an unfortunate incident.
    It is not the Government’s pipeline, it is privately owned.
    The Government has swung into action, with the army and navy helping out.
    Doubt it can do much more.
    It didn’t take Taxcinda long to point her bony finger, but, if anything, I think she has come out worst, looking sour, petulant and desperate.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:25am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Digger driver must have thought he had hit pay dirt lol one hell of a big ‘log’.
      I hope they are found and I hope they are insured, it was 4 metres deep?
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:19am
      - Dave Mann
        
        The damage seems to have been done by a digger, sure (these things can be evaluated by experts)…. but was it an accident, or sabotage by some Maori tribe or malcontent who think it’s ‘their’ land?
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:06am
      - fluffykiwi
        
        Perhaps they thought they had struck “oil”.
        
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        September 19, 2017 2:37pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Sorry DM hit the wrong button. Again the story is far enough away from the time of the incident to be muddied up big time.
        Apparently there was a defect or damage to that section of pipe during laying but they decided to “live with it”. It also that the digger version was a distraction or diversion from the truth.
        
        It’s the old fish story getting exaggerated with each time it is told. The spin merchants are in full overdrive along with the blame game.
        In fact it is Bill English’s fault. He did not leave enough sticks for Labour or the Media party to beat him with so imagination must take over.
        
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        September 19, 2017 7:27pm
  - starboard
    
    That pipeline runs 24/7..365 days a year. Auckland Airport has storage but it gets tight..often. For a long time now, they have been blowin on about it ( the fuel companies). The increase in flights, in and out of Akl, has been HUGE the last 5 years. The increase in fuel consumption, in general, has not kept up with the city’s growth. The oil companies have been creaming it profit wise but maintenance wise..nah.
    Running on the seat of their pants, it was always going to fail. Lucky it’s not peak season.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:39am
    - Lance
      
      Sounds like the airlines will be lining up to sue the suppliers asses.
      Fair enough, cause and effect. Fail to provide business contingency carries risk. They fucked up by penny pinching and it’s going to cost.
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:08am
    - starboard
      
      whoops..I meant the increased fuel consumption and growth of Auckland is outstripping supply. The fuel companies barely keep up.
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:26am
      - Brito
        
        Meds required here nurse.
        
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        September 19, 2017 9:28am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Not a “failure” as such, damage by idiot is better description.
      
      The position of the pipe would be very well known and described, inexcusable error by digger, I hope they are VERY well insured for the liability.
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:41am
      - Brito
        
        Locals are saying “no digger”. Deferred maintenance bit them in the arse.
        
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        September 19, 2017 9:57am
      - sam green
        
        They should get Judith Collins to investigate why this happened.
        
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        September 19, 2017 1:27pm
- Tarquin North
  
  They had a map of where the leak is supposed to be in yesterdays Horrid, they were only about two k’s out. Suppose that’s what happens when you out source everything to India and don’t bother with proof readers. Pretty much sums up the media in general, no need to check – just publish what you like or whatever fits your agenda.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:07am
- kowtow
  
  If Cindy wants all vital infrastructure (whatever that is) backed up , then expect even more taxes.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:07am
  - cmm
    
    Every road must have bike bike lanes.
    Every worker must join two unions.
    Every rich prick must pay tax twice.
    Every bludger must claim for their kids twice.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:09am
- convicted radical
  
  Well, there are about 20 advance voting booths within 5 km of the airport (as well as one in the International Departures area). So if you were dicked around by airlines, there is plenty of opportunity to take out your anger at a polling booth – unfortunately!
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:19am
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘it may backfire’
  I wondered this too. Kiwis are reasonable and fair.
  They’ll see through it.
  Especially if the Govt is decisive and their action works.
  It’s any failure to do that which would work against the Nats.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:35am
  - tas
    
    If petrol stations in Auckland start to run out, then the situation could become much more dire for the government.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:55am
- Gulag1917
  
  The fuel pipe situation epitomises everything stupid ie politicians, bureaucrats, laws, rules and regulations.
  
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  September 19, 2017 12:17pm
  - Gabby
    
    And competitive ducking for cover.
    
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    September 19, 2017 7:42pm
- Johnboy
  
  I feel such an enormous responsibility as (I suspect) the second most voluble commenter on KB to stand in for the late lamented Milkey.
  
  The onerous task was just so daunting that I couldn’t sleep all night so failed to make the 8:00 deadline for first post.
  
  I hope you’ll all forgive me for butting in here folks and suffice to say that, unlike Milkey, I have always admitted that everything I’ve ever said here was utter shit! 🙂
  
  As soon as Milkey gets out of the naughty corner I’m almost certain he will be back to peddle his much more erudite version of shit! 🙂
  
  Meanwhile let us all raise a glass to the poor bastard. Just think of the frustration he must be going through at this almost pinnacle of his career as he can’t possibly comment while his horse-faced sex symbol looks like she might be about to con the fuckwits.
  
  Cheers Milkey. We all feel for you old chap!! 🙂
  
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  September 19, 2017 12:46pm
  - sooty
    
    He can go over and post on the standard.
    
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    September 19, 2017 1:02pm
    - Johnboy
      
      Lynette might shoot him for being a recidivist because of all the time he’s spent here? 🙂
      
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      September 19, 2017 1:14pm
starboard

Hi mikenmild, so sorry to see you have been pinged for a week..* chortle*..have a nice week off buddy..*snigger*
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September 19, 2017 8:00am
- krazykiwi
  
  I’d noticed milky had become a bit unhinged over the last few days. Quite aggressive and out-of-character nasty. Hope his time in the hole is therapeutic.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:06am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Is milky ‘away’ till after the election? Not being able to comment on KB at the run up to the election will be driving him nuts.
    
    What a shame! ?
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:24am
    - Inandout
      
      Is milky in jail? When I was a kid and a mate’s father went missing from the town we asked him what gives. The lad answered that Mum said Dad was ‘away up North’. It later transpired he was visiting Mt Eden, as a resident.
      
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      September 19, 2017 10:53am
      - RF
        
        Away up north or Going up north…
        
        That phrase used to be spoken by pregnant girls from the South Island going North to wait out their pregnancy.
        
        Just saying..
        
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        September 19, 2017 11:21am
      - Piniwi
        
        Same happened to the garbage man Inandout. Knocked on the door and asked Hongi “where’s ya wheellie bin?” .”On holiday” was the reply. Asked again Hongi came clean and said “OK I been in jail”. The garbage man clarified. “No, I mean where’s your rubbish wheelie bin”. Hongi blushed and directed him to the back of the shed.
        
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        September 19, 2017 7:40pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Too bad, so sad, never mind.
      
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      September 19, 2017 12:13pm
    - sooty
      
      The worry of the coming election was too much.
      
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      September 19, 2017 1:04pm
  - Lance
    
    I am sure he is kicking the cat or something
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:10am
    - GazzaW
      
      Maybe commenting on Whaleoil. He should last all of five minutes.
      
      Fucken hell milky, you’ll be like an P addict without your hourly ‘fix’. How does it feel reading all this pro-National shit without being able to hit the keyboard. I feel your pain (not).
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:39am
- kowtow
  
  haha
  
  Why pinged?
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:22am
  - starboard
    
    Called the boss a liar..the boss, the big guy, number one..numero uno..the big cheese..called him a liar ! Tsk Tsk.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:27am
    - Brito
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Starboard I hope you swallowed after that cos you must be backed up.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:40am
      - Gabby
        
        Ugh. You’re the worst Britto.
        
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        September 19, 2017 8:51am
      - cmm
        
        Dude, you even offended sweet Gabby!
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:11am
    - kowtow
      
      I saw that and thought at the time it should merit a ping.
      
      Damned rude old boy calling a man a liar under his own roof. I reckon that should be a lifer.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:43am
    - holysheet
      
      Ye you don’t do that and expect life to be the same
      
      From Yesterday
      mikenmild
      You could turn your question around DPF, and ask how many more people your party want to put in prison. That is equally nonsensical.
      This is a classic piece of misinformation – a Kiwiblog straw man special.
      A goal of reducing the prison population is not the same as releasing 3,000. Someone who makes his living from statistics would definitely know that, so that makes DPF’s comment a deliberate lie.
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:12am
    - Brito
      
      I see the Gabster is wagging school today. I estimate pregnant by 15 and on govt support for the rest of her life. She’ll be voting Green.
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:12am
- oldpark
  
  Not forgetting the other sicko Ztev. A ratbag par excellence.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:44am
krazykiwi

At the weekend I got chatting with a young(ish) couple about the election. It was a good natured exchange over which I deduced they were Labour supporters, and they no doubt deduced that I was in the National/ACT camp. Once we got beyond Jacinda vs Bill and started talking about policies in general, and how these might impact them personally I could see the lights starting to go on – more taxes, impact on rental rates (they’re not looking to buy), and aggressive unions disrupting industry etc.

It felt like my delicate proselytising had worked so I asked them who they were likely to vote for. The answer was a short but awkward silence, followed by “Ah… I think National would probably be better for us, but we both voted for Labour on Friday”

No wonder Taxinda wanted supporters to vote early. This couple definitely have buyers regret.
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September 19, 2017 8:00am
- Southern Raider
  
  And there could be up to half a million who have already made that mistake
  
  Let’s hope the silent majority has come out in force
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:03am
  - CHFR1
    
    My husband and I voted yesterday. One tick blue one tick yellow, we want National to have support from the right and not just rely on Winston who could go either way.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:22am
    - Prince
      
      And remember, in terms of policies, they don’t go more left than Winston.
      No GST on (grandma’s basic) food.
      No GST on rates
      Scrap Charter Schools
      Abolish National Standards in Education
      Introduce Universal Living Allowance for all fulltime Tertiary students.
      Scrap repayment of student loans if work in NZ
      Woolen carpets throughout Government.
      Raise minimum wage to $20
      Wider use of home detention and non custodial sentences
      Impose rent freeze in ChCh
      Pay 100% of uninsured land, and top up existing payments to 100%.
      Raise alcohol purchase age to 20.
      Direct NZ Super Fund to purchase NZ shares
      Establish new Kiwisaver option with minimal fees and guaranteed returns
      Offer tax advantages for ‘approved’ savings schemes, and people saving for first home.
      Increase taxes on ‘higher incomes’.
      Govt to choose NZ-owned ICT busineses, exclude multinationals.
      Nationalise Energy Companies. Approx cost $18B plus setup of new ‘Glorious Electrical Coy of NZ’.
      Fund all this by ‘clamping down on Tax evasion’.
      
      It’s all in the manifesto (except for Grandma).
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:41am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        18 excellent reasons to consign this irrelevant old fool to the political wilderness where he belongs.
        
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        September 19, 2017 9:26am
      - starboard
        
        Welcome to New Korea
        
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        September 19, 2017 9:31am
      - Dave Mann
        
        If all that’s true (and you seem to have researched it), its worse than I had imagined. God…. 🙁
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:14am
      - Prince
        
        It’s all here..
        http://www.nzfirst.org.nz/policies
        Wash your hands after.
        
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        September 19, 2017 1:25pm
- cmm
  
  Well the good thing is that they have learned.
  
  Rather have them make a youthful stuff up and learn from it than have them being low-level ignorant people forever.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:05am
  - krazykiwi
    
    If Taxinda heads to Government House soon then all of New Zealand is going to get a lesson:
    
    A lesson in inflation
    A lesson in industrial disruption
    A lesson in reduced disposable income
    A lesson in increased unemployment
    A lesson in increased rental rates
    A lesson in incompetent, inexperienced leadership
    
    Sadly, some of us have already been there … and it ain’t pretty
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:10am
    - cmm
      
      Think of it like pulling off a sticking plaster…
      
      It’s going to happen some time. The more brutal it is, the quicker it will be over and more likely people will remember for a long time.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:35am
    - Piniwi
      
      Not forgetting the elephant in the room. Unintended consequences. Now there is a drawback. IMO most will be in that category as Labour themselves don’t squidley. Wait for the cry “that’s not what we intended when we did THIS”. Bugger me even they don’t what THIS is.
      
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      September 19, 2017 7:50pm
- kowtow
  
  If they are that stupid they should not be allowed to breed or vote.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:09am
  - Muttonbird
    
    This is a parody account, right? Did you just say Labour supporters should be sterilised and denied democracy?
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:13am
    - kowtow
      
      No ,if they are that stupid they are not suitable to bring up children and likewise they should not have a say in how my life is governed.
      
      Denied democracy , no they’ll still live in a democracy and enjoy its benefits , they just don’t get to vote.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:46am
      - Muttonbird
        
        Ok, so it is a parody account. Thank goodness, I thought you were serious, lol.
        
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        September 19, 2017 8:55am
    - Lance
      
      Written by a parody generator itself….
      
      Snigger
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:13am
      - Muttonbird
        
        Seriously though, that guy is unhinged.
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:46am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Pot…kettle..
        
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        September 19, 2017 12:19pm
- Ross12
  
  krazykiwi
  That is the problem –those who read KB ( from both sides) or any other political blog or political news in depth are the very unusual 5% – 10% in the voter population. The majority are either too busy or not interested enough to read anything beyond the headlines.
  The politicians will be well aware of that.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:27am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yup. These guys aren’t stupid, quite the opposite in fact. They’re just not politically engaged which, as you say, makes them fodder for the political spin doctors
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:40am
    - Piniwi
      
      Bang on krazykiwi. That is what Labour is depending on as well as why they have the Pretty Communist leading them. She is not looking well though seeing her on RED radio.
      
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      September 19, 2017 7:55pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    Yes Ross, exactly and well said. This has occurred to me many times too over the last few weeks.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:17am
- SGA
  
  It felt like my delicate proselytising had worked so I asked them who they were likely to vote for.
  
  What one never knows, of course, is what they said to each other once you had left. And that’s not necessarily meant as a comment on you personally, more just an observation about human nature.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:37am
  - Prince
    
    True. 90% of electoral candidates are sure they will win – everyone tells them they have their vote.
    Quickest way to get them out the door.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:47am
- Classic Liberal
  
  It’s so wrong that voting begins while people are still campaigning. All the cards need to be on the table before voting day, then absolute silence from the politicians while the voters finalise their decisions!
  
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  September 19, 2017 12:31pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    All the cards need to be on the table before voting day
    
    Well we have been asking for Labour POLICY for along time – like 3 years.
    Silence is deafening
    
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    September 19, 2017 1:16pm
  - MCos
    
    Judging by the comments here most people have long decided who they’re going to vote for not only this election, but next one too!
    
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    September 19, 2017 1:24pm
igm

Hope many silly old misled pensioners fawning over Mr Ed realise she will be taking recommendations from Clive Matthew-Wilson to introduce stringent drivers’ tests for those over 65 years, also reinstating 6-monthly warrants of fitness for those of us with late model cars. By the way, hope they realise, fuel and registration are on the immediate hit list.
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September 19, 2017 8:01am
- Southern Raider
  
  I renewed my Rego a couple of weeks ago and couldn’t believe the price. I tried to tell the woman at the Post Shop that she must have charged me for three or six months instead of 12 because it was too cheap
  
  A simple thing like this is what people need to understand. Under Labour your car rego was $600 per annum, now it’s $80!!!
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:04am
  - cmm
    
    Tax really is a death by a thousand cuts and the corollary to that is that easing tax burdens adds up to a huge difference too.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:07am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Everything that National has bought down to a fair and realistic price will skyrocket under Liarbore.
    You lefties know it but will still vote for them, can’t help yourselves because of envy of Rich Pricks.
    If National loses, I am staying in Alaska so there
    
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    September 19, 2017 1:22pm
- tf78
  
  igm
  Where did you find these little gems – public should be made aware.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:06am
- geoff3012
  
  Mr Ed…….hhhaaaaaaaa..
  .hhhaaaaaa
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:43am
- holysheet
  
  My new transit van has a 3 year WOF period. It will be out of its lease by the time I have to do anything.
  It’s all these small things that have changed for the better under National. Low ACC premiums are another.
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:20am
Left Right and Centre

Two Ticks Blue

gabby sucks poo
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September 19, 2017 8:04am
- cmm
  
  Unfair picking on Gabby when she’s still in bed.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:08am
  - starboard
    
    ..still on the changing table..
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:21am
    - Brito
      
      Now you’re getting the theme…
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:47am
oldpark

What an indictment of Lie-bour/Green mafias as they have gone out of their way attacking our farming Community. “Commie Chic Ardern” with the “sensitivity of a rattle snake”,riding roughshod over the backbone of our economy,The Farming Community.
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September 19, 2017 8:04am
Prince

Hearing stories of University lecturers encouraging students to go ‘vote for change’ at the campus early voting stations, I’m wondering who at the electoral commission has stacked the deck with this corrupt ‘early voting’ policy.
Why no early voting at rugby clubs, sports stadia, offices ?
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September 19, 2017 8:04am
- Southern Raider
  
  Issue with early voting is their is no neutral scrutineers like you have on Election Day
  
  No wonder Jacinda wants people out early
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:05am
- Longknives
  
  Jack Tame wrote an article the other day pleading with Young People to get out and ‘Vote for Change’.
  Yet Mike Hosking gets all the crap for being ‘Biased’?? I’ve never once heard Mike telling people who they should vote for…
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:09am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Little twerp.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:31am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      I caught some crap with him hosting – party debate with ‘youth’ audience – at one point he says *but this is NZ ‘god’s country’* – huh ?
      
      Just a baby-faced little lightweight twat.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:35am
      - RF
        
        The traitors Tame & Dann will be rewarded by the Polit Bureau on Saturday for their treachery.
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:19am
    - kowtow
      
      Yeah , really , what the fuck does “change” mean ?
      
      Vote for a Labour Green gummint and we’ll have change alright. Gummint rammed down your throat, a throat that already has its fingers firmly round it.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:49am
  - Southern Raider
    
    It’s the reality of never having a real job. Tame somehow managed to fall out of broadcasting school or whatever he did into a high paying glamour job and has no concept of the majority of the population who haven’t brought up with a silver spoon
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:06am
    - calendar girl
      
      Chosen for a pretty face and a heart-throb smile …..
      
      He can’t be blamed for that – intellect, sensitivity and balance are rarely considerations in the choices of TVNZ’s broadcasting ‘talent’.
      
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      September 19, 2017 3:38pm
  - softail 1450
    
    LK that bloody lefty jack lame is a pain in the arse,but he actually got stuck into the toothy one last week I was actually stunned at how he ripped into her .
    on the same morning tv3 and garner gave her an easy ride..go figure …
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:12am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Jake Tame can ‘write’? Fuck, I thought he could only talk baby talk with his mum
    
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    September 19, 2017 1:24pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  @Prince
  
  As well as a referendum on the Maori seats we should have one on early voting. It has made an ass of the law. People or parties can still get prosecuted for not having their hoardings down on 23 Sept. This is absurd.
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:20am
EAD_TWO

In the wake of the Hurricanes that hit America, there are increasing calls to imprison so called “climate deniers”:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/11/climate-change-activists-want-punishment-for-skept/

Calls to punish global warming skepticism as a criminal offense have surged in the aftermath of Hurricanes Harvey and Irma, but it hasn’t discouraged climate scientists like Judith Curry.

A retired Georgia Tech professor, she argued on her Climate Etc. website that Irma, which hit Florida as a Category 4 hurricane on Saturday, was fueled in large part by “very weak” wind shear and that the hurricane intensified despite Atlantic Ocean temperatures that weren’t unusually warm.

That is the kind of talk that could get policymakers who heed her research hauled before the justice system, if some of those in the climate change movement have their way.

“Climate change denial should be a crime,” declared the Sept. 1 headline in the Outline. Mark Hertsgaard argued in a Sept. 7 article in the Nation, titled “Climate Denialism Is Literally Killing Us,” that “murder is murder” and “we should punish it as such.”

The fact of the matter is the truth does not need the law to protect it, only lies do.

The Globalists are getting desperate – the way they attack dissident minds is straight out of 1984. Attack, withdraw funding, slander, ban and if that doesn’t work then it’s off to the Room 101 for you Winston.
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September 19, 2017 8:04am
- All_on_Red
  
  I liked this on twitter
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  September 19, 2017 8:39am
UrbanNeocolonialist

Check out labour’s joke of a Fiscal Foecast:
http://www.labour.org.nz/fiscalplans-forecasts
Assumes ~4.5% compounding GDP growth over their term, something that has only be achieved once in at least last 40 years, and ~5% compounding govt revenue growth (because as everyone knows high tax leads to high growth). They should be getting hammered for this.
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September 19, 2017 8:05am
- tom hunter
  
  Sure. I pointed this out a while ago during the great Budget Hole kerfuffle. It’s these assumptions that made their numbers add up.
  
  And to think “economists” lile BERL put their thumbprint of approval on this. Farcical.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:07am
  - Prince
    
    To be fair, BERL (and Infometrics for the Greens) don’t validate underlying assumptions. They just check the numbers add up down and sideways.
    It’s too hard for the media to explain the assumptions, so the Parties get away with their approval claims.
    I recall a previous Government (Richardson ?) requiring all parties to have their forecasts reviewed by Treasury ? Was that just a proposal ?
    It would be good to have an independent body review all parties financials, and spell out the differences in assumptions etc.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:14am
    - tom hunter
      
      Interesting, but to me, something as basic as the assumption about future GDP growth definitely should be checked.
      
      Therein lies the problem with (Richardson’s?) proposal. Those things can always be gamed, as the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) was gamed by the Democrats over Obamacare in 2009/10. Stuff some bullshit assumptions in that anybody with half-a-brain knows are bullshit – but make sure their charter means that they must simply accept the rules as they are written.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:24am
  - Sarkozygroupie
    
    I wonder how much damage BERL has done to its brand. It came out swinging on its website (or in some release it made) with a very strident message about how it and Labour were quite correct in their economic assessments. It simply came across as panicked and snarling.
    
    Everyone knows attack is the best form of defence when faced with a universal truth. Perhaps BERL has buyers remorse as well.
    
    I definitely would think twice now about heeding its advice in future.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:21am
    - Piniwi
      
      Not so Sarkozygroupie. BERL were requested to check the data provided by Robbo. Validity of the data was not provided they simply did the sums. As they stated when the $11.7 billion hole was pointed out by Steven Joyce.
      
      He on the other hand did his calculation from the little RED book with Robbos raw data. The subsequent tax flip flop made that hole even bigger. Grab a copy of the little RED book and it will dispel any doubt. It is an eye watering read. You’ll cry laughing.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:25pm
      - Sarkozygroupie
        
        I think we are meaning the same thing Piniwi. By “economic assessment” I meant adding up the sums not validating. Just different terminology-but I am not an economist so may have confused meanings. Regardless BERL came out swinging, which seemed to belie a real lack of confidence in themselves.
        
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        September 19, 2017 11:24pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Partly correct tom. What BERL said was the figures provided by Robbo were correct as they were given to them. That is to say it added up. They did not have any to do with compiling or validating how they were arrived at.
    They covered their arse well there but took no responsibility for the source data.
    Interestingly the little poofter has slunk away it seems.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:11pm
NeutralObserver

A non election related post!

Interesting in that a profession where optics is everything that the UK has decided that the most senior and appropriate person to send to NZ when it wants to negotiate a post Brexit deal is a youngish policy officer, who most senior offshore role is Counsellor and seems to have not any trade background at all.

New Zealand sends the the U.K. its ex Trade Minister/Speaker, then ex CDF/Govenor General.

It diplomatic speak this is as close to a slap down as you can get. Nice.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/change-of-british-high-commissioner-to-new-zealand-laura-clarke
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September 19, 2017 8:05am
- Gabby
  
  I think we’ve won on that deal. She’s certainly no Munter.
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:54am
Longknives

Had lunch recently with a group of friends/acquaintances- A couple of whom are hardcore Labour and actively involved in campaigning.
We made a promise not to talk Politics but after a few drinks the inevitable happened.
End result- We left early as things got heated and we were being taunted with such charming comments as “Time for you Rich Pricks to pay the Piper” “We don’t care about bloody Rich Farmers” and some unintelligible blithering about “White Privilege”
Be very fucking Afraid- Labour Voters consider this a ‘Revolution’ and there will be blood spilled.
The blood will be that of the hardworking Kiwi taxpayer (With a special spot at the guillotine for Farmers,Landlords and anyone who has investments in Property!)
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September 19, 2017 8:05am
- Swifty
  
  Labour truly are the nasty party.
  
  Just nasty.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:21am
- alloytoo
  
  The problem is that Labour supporters see that everyone has improved their lot in life in the past 9 years except them.
  
  What they don’t see of course is that these people have been actively improving their lot by either working hard or studying, by being proactive.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:22am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Hit the nail on the head. They want you to share your lifestyle with them.
    ‘They’ can go ….
    
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    September 19, 2017 1:30pm
- oldgolfer
  
  So right, Longknives.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:46am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  ” A couple of whom are hardcore Labour and actively involved in campaigning.”
  
  At least they’ve had the Labour disease for a long time and were always going to vote that way.
  The ones I’m more worried about are those who are switching because having an empty-headed poster girl up front is going to change everything that is wrong about Labour.
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:33am
- Gabby
  
  That’s weally weally mean.
  You’re not rich.
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:55am
  - Brito
    
    Gabster has a speech impediment. Possibly front teeth with a large overbite. Gobby could be Cindy. Ever thought about that?
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:01am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Nah – too mature and witty for Jacinda 😉
      
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      September 19, 2017 12:31pm
      - Sarkozygroupie
        
        St.Teeth is too earnest.
        
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        September 19, 2017 6:49pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      try ‘ Marquess’ sshhhh
      
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      September 19, 2017 1:35pm
- RF
  
  Jesus Longknives we must share the same friends.
  
  Your account is a carbon copy of recent discussions I have had.
  
  To put it bluntly those bastards are deadly serious and will give no quarter. To them it’s payback time and they are very confident it’s in the bag.
  
  My group still blames and hates John Key.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:28am
cas

I can recommend the Cats make you laugh series on TV 2 as a good diversion from the election
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September 19, 2017 8:08am
Digmen1

I read a bit about that Thai lady that was kidnapperd by those Head Hunter guys.

It was very sad (but of course she was a drug dealer.)

But looking at those guys in court, and their photos, I wonder how many guys like that are there in NZ.

What do they do all day.
Are they on benefits
Where do they live?
Why do we put up with them
How much do they cost us (insurance premiums etc)
Are they breeding?
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September 19, 2017 8:12am
- MCos
  
  Where do they live?
  One or other of our prisons, I think is the answer to that one.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:34am
  - Prince
    
    Only after their 46 conviction – see yesterday’s post.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:50am
- Sarkozygroupie
  
  Is kidnapperd a bit like being kippered? No matter, same result. Cookerd. ?
  
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  September 19, 2017 7:26pm
kowtow

If Britain , as so many of its rulers say it is truly “multicultural” then the police should have taken their shoes off.

If it isn’t then the Muslims should fuck off back to where shoes aren’t worn.

Fit In Or Fuck Off.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4896276/Furious-Muslim-worshippers-turn-police.html
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September 19, 2017 8:12am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Old McBlighty had some muslims . . .
  F-I-O-F-O
  
  someone else can add the next bit
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:27am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    “Left Right and Centre
    
    Old McBlighty had some muslims . . .
    F-I-O-F-O”
    
    Want the poms to stop their guzzlin…
    F-I-O-F-O
    
    Can’t ‘av pint down’t Rovers anymore. 🙁
    
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    September 19, 2017 12:34pm
- MCos
  
  If you come round to my house, leave your shoes at the door.
  Nothing to do with religion.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:42am
  - kowtow
    
    Thank you for making the point.
    
    In England do as the English do. If you don’t want or intend to accept the ways of your host , don’t cross the threshold and dirty the place up or expect your host to put up with your foreign ways.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:17am
    - MCos
      
      Many years I lived in England for a couple of years. At one stage we had some West Indians next door. We had a party at new year’s eve and at midnight invited the neighbours in with their reggae music. Some of the poms complained because they didn’t like black people.
      Bugger them, it might be their country, but it’s our house and we’re Kiwis.
      The Jamacians stayed.
      
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      September 19, 2017 10:57am
      - kowtow
        
        I’m inspired by your tokenism, a tokenism that suggests you’re a racist yourself. Like the Lord of the Manor allowing your serfs in once a year to sing a christmas hymn , you deigned to have your blacks around at new years’ and have been dining out on your virtue signalling ever since.
        
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        September 19, 2017 11:30am
      - MCos
        
        Piss off
        
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        September 19, 2017 1:26pm
      - GoVege
        
        I know you’re depressed about the upcoming change of government Kowtow, but no need to take it out on MCos …
        
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        September 19, 2017 1:55pm
      - kowtow
        
        Go Meaty
        
        Kowtow doesn’t do “depression”. There’s no such thing. If a bit of exercise can “cure” it , it ain’t a disease, merely an indulgence.
        
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        September 19, 2017 2:11pm
      - Jack5
        
        MCos at 10.57 included this in his/her post: “Some of the poms complained because they didn’t like black people.”
        
        I’m an NZ’er, too, but find British people by now generally pretty tolerant and accepting of UK-born non-white folk. Many West Indians are now into their third or more UK-born generation.
        
        The American psychologist Gordon Allport back in 1954 spelled out the nature of prejudice in an immigrant society like the USA (and the UK, and NZ).
        
        It is people of the ethnicity of the latest immigration wave who encounter most prejudice. The second latest gets the second amount of prejudice, but is prejudiced against the latest wave … and so on.
        
        In my youthful travels some of the most objectionable folk I met were a minority of New Zealanders who were loud, half-pissed fuckwits flashing NZ flags, doing pakeha faux-hakas and boasting about everything from this country.
        
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        September 19, 2017 4:57pm
      - MCos
        
        My point was that back at that particular time 1972/3 we were bucking the system because at the time ‘Pakis’, West Indians or foreigners in general were not well liked.
        There were a couple of Nigerians in our office who were constantly racially bullied. One day I got a bit fed up with the constant anti foreigner banter which I was expected to join in. I pointed out that I was a foreigner too. No your not, I was told, you’re a Kiwi. Handy being white from the old Empire sometimes!
        
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        September 19, 2017 7:09pm
- GoVege
  
  They ought to be grateful they have been allowed to live in a beautiful peaceful country like England where all they get to complain about is bobbies wearing their shoes in the house/mosque.
  Back where they come from, they have bigger worries than that…like their mosques being bombed with worshippers inside.
  Oh hang on…that only happens to Christians doesn’t it?
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:15am
Kimbo

And as I said yesterday all protest groups – unions, students, Maori activists, farmers, whoever – set back their cause if they do so during an election campaign, especially the last week. And doubly so if they are reported as hostile, angry and a mob:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11923648

Yesterday’s Morrinsville gathering is now portrayed for soft swinging female urban voters (you know, the ones who decide elections) as nasty, uncouth, rude misogynist, chauvinist, privileged, climate-denying cockies picking on lovely sainted Jacinda. Bear in mind

1. Labour knows it is a waste of time chasing the rural vote

2. they’ve sold the “feelz” message that nasty cow poo can be cleaned up with a water tax

3. …and if it was hard enough to win the opportunity to explain otherwise, it is now doubly so as the phone is off the hook after lovely Jacinda is attacked in such a nasty way.
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September 19, 2017 8:13am
- Prince
  
  Strange to hear Andrea Vance declare the Morrinsville protest was party-political, because a couple of organisers supported National in the past.
  Odd how political leanings are never raised when the protest is against the Government, or some ‘little Johnny has to share his bedroom’ sob story is published.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:17am
  - kowtow
    
    In that case our media is party political , why don’t other hacks do a hit job on them ?
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/96918129/alison-mau-morrinsville–where-the-politics-is-getting-dirtier-than-the-worst-farm-stream
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:56am
    - SteveRemmington
      
      I think Ali is going to have to work considerably harder if she wants to cut Marvelly’s lunch.
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:41am
  - Gabby
    
    Never? Paw prints you must just trot over those bits.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:20am
oldpark

The self styled leader Commie Chic Ardern of “My Generation” up to age 37,has been seen running scared and has reneged from appearing on the Leighton Smith ZB morning show. She has also refused to go on Kerre Mc Ivor afternoon show.
Perception is everything ,Ardern cant handle the heat.Her fake facade of leadership has declined.Starting to prove what most common sense voters have worked out ,a vote for Lie-bour/Green mafias would be a huge disaster for the good ship NZ.
Arderns slip is showing”She has the backbone of a Chocolate Eclair”. Two Ticks Blue.
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September 19, 2017 8:16am
- VicParking
  
  She was walking down the main street in Whanganui yesterday when a guy on the other side of the road started to berate her ( about support for released prisoners). He minders speed her up to a fast walk to get away from “The Voice”. She did a walk about in the ‘Town Square’ but there were minders surrounding her only letting slected people get close. A few people turned up to protest but they were sent away by the police and security before she arrived.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:40am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  September 19, 2017 11:02am
Inandout

Jacinda looked terrible on TV this morning. She also bares her teeth so much she is beginning to look like an Alien monster. She will be lucky to last the hustings.
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September 19, 2017 8:17am
- waikatogirl
  
  Cindy has lost weight during the campaign and her teeth are looking even more prominent with a thinner face.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:34am
  - Muttonbird
    
    Oooh, the RW women are catty this morning!
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:45am
    - Happychappy
      
      Muttonhead: What’s catty about Jacinta and the way she looks her forehead has more wrinkles than woman has after giving birth and that tells you the campaign has taken it’s toll.
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:03am
      - starboard
        
        She’s slowly morphing into klarkula..any day now the skin will peel back.. those false chompers will fall to the floor..then “BAM” ! …shes here!
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:21am
      - Gabby
        
        Didn’t you lose a set of dentures in your belly folds crappy?
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:29am
      - Rich Prick
        
        I think those panic attacks she told the Guardian all about are taking their toll. No wonder she’s avoiding interviews left, right and centre. If she wins, she’ll fall to pieces at her first big challenge.
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:51am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Nah, I’d notice if you were unwell too! ?
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:43am
      - Muttonbird
        
        I think you might be a little in awe of Jacinda. It’s ok to admit it.
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:55am
    - Gabby
      
      wakkogirl has makeup tips though. It’s not all smears.
      
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      September 19, 2017 10:22am
  - RF
    
    Remember the alien films where the monster with large teeth dribbling slime bursts out of victims chests…..
    
    It was thought to have been destroyed in the final film.
    
    Sorry folks but you are wrong………..its back…..alive and well appearing on your TV news every day.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:41am
    - Gabby
      
      You finding it difficult to breathe rf rf.
      
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      September 19, 2017 7:08pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Yes WG. Not looking good at all. Lets hope with all the pressure she did not get her toothpaste mixed up with her haemoid paste. It can lead to shrunken gums and a ring of confidence.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:39pm
- Sarkozygroupie
  
  What I finding particularly off putting is the way she sort of leans forward in a hunch then repeats while flinging her hands around when she is telling her audience something. It is designed to give credence, authenticity, sincerity and earnestness to her message (I care, no I REALLY do) but it just makes her look like the hunchback of Notre Dame.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:38am
- Lance
  
  According to Aunty Helun a protester calling Cindy a communist is misogynist ………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
  WTF ?
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:24am
  - kowtow
    
    A sign of the times and the rot that “progressive” politics has brought us.
    
    Identity politics ,designed to silence opposition.
    
    Very dangerous.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:29am
- holysheet
  
  This is what she really is like.
  We will see after the election
  
  https://phillanoue.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/nice-toothy-grin-04.jpg?w=774&h=612
  
  Coming to us all next week
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:27am
Left Right and Centre

Is Jacindy ever not nodding yes when speaking ?

What a f$%king *bobblehead*

blah blah blah blah blah blah
bobble bobble bobble bobble bobble bobble
nod nod nod nod noddy doddy nod a nod noodle oodle woolley poodle doodle wobbly bobbly obly blobbly

Sure – keep nodding yes enough every second you’re on camera – smile and nod – smile and nod – smile and nod – smile and nod

How freakishly strong exactly are her cheek and neck muscles by now ?
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September 19, 2017 8:18am
- starboard
  
  Cindy Patal..heh. Well she is the ‘head wobbler’ being leader an all..
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:25am
  - itstricky
    
    Now, now, starboard. Swifty has informed us all that it is only commie lefties that resort to personal attacks.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:27am
  - Muttonbird
    
    Cindy Patel
    
    Sexism and racism. Double whammy, and extra points for economy.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:47am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Neither. But obvious stupidity on your part. Here something to help with you general knowledge: Indian Head Shake. Spend some time in southern India and/or Sri Lanka if you want to see this in action. Or just shriek wwwwwwwaaaaaaacist! like a good leftie.
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:07am
      - holysheet
        
        Did a youtube search for Indian headshake
        
        It went to this.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etb5Cs_gH4s
        
        Look down the right side at possible clips, there is Cindy waiting. Why???
        
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        September 19, 2017 9:52am
      - starboard
        
        Fantastic H/S!!..I laughed so hard I, unfortunately ..umm..had a small leak,..
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:28am
- Rachael Membery
  
  I feel the same about Amanda Gillies on the AM her head gives her a kick start too.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:00am
  - Muttonbird
    
    Oh so bitchy. RWNJ girls don’t like losing!
    
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    September 19, 2017 11:00am
    - srylands
      
      What on earth is RWNJ?
      
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      September 19, 2017 1:50pm
- RF
  
  Remember Crooked Hillary….
  
  They used to call her bobble head.
  
  Shit… are they related.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:46am
- Gabby
  
  How’d you develop your bobbing ability leftrightout?
  
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  September 19, 2017 7:07pm
Keeping Stock

Why has Jacinda Ardern bailed out of an hour-long interview with Leighton Smith on Newstalk ZB this morning? It is the top-rating radio slot in its time space, and an hour of publicity that at this stage of the campaign money couldn’t buy.

I wonder if the issue is that Newstalk ZB refused to give her a list of the questions Leighton Smith would ask her…
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- itstricky
  
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  I wonder if the issue is that Newstalk ZB refused to give her a list of the questions Leighton Smith would ask her…
  
  I wonder if the moon is made of cheese, or whether I will win Lotto this week.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:25am
  - Lance
    
    Looks like all the lefties are going full retard as the election looms.
    Exhibit itstricky above
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:27am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Yes indeed Lance; the election is slipping from their grasp, and they’re not happy. Will we see “Not my Prime Minister” riots on Saturday night?
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:53am
      - MrTips
        
        KS: you and I both know that’s entirely possible.
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:55am
  - itstricky
    
    I wonder if the issue is that her Grandmother died.
    
    I wonder if I’m not as ‘full retard’ as you’d like me to be.
    
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    September 19, 2017 1:48pm
- Prince
  
  I understand Newstalk wouldn’t accept the list Ardern gave them……
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:26am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  easy – she’s a face not a voice
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:30am
- Muttonbird
  
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  I guess she doesn’t rate Leighton Smith as a serious interviewer. Not hard to agree.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:49am
  - flipper
    
    Yet more GUANO dropped by the bird ……….
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:16am
  - Lance
    
    Those ratings are a bugger aren’t they?
    Hell people even think Hosking is better than simpering lefty twits.
    
    Labour will just have to nationalize all the radio and TV stations and fire all the non PC personalities.
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:32am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      And they will. Just wait and see.
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:38am
  - Brito
    
    Muttonbird: (N), stuffed and salted, ladled in fat and wrapped in flax to preserve.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:05am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Dumb and easy to catch too
      
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      September 19, 2017 10:19am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        And very much an acquired taste. Far too greasy and tough for my palate 😎
        
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        September 19, 2017 11:18am
- Gabby
  
  She’s not feeding fakenews Leightweight?
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:26am
  - Brito
    
    Dear Mrs Gobby, We’ve noticed that your child has been absent from the creche these past few days. She may be experiencing teasing from others because of her overbite. Mr Filch the janitor said she was one of his favourites and would like her back.
    Yours faithfully
    Headmaster.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:31am
    - Gabby
      
      Dear Brillo, use ‘Yours sincerely’ after the addressee’s name, you little scrubber.
      
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      September 19, 2017 7:04pm
      - Brito
        
        I wasn’t being sincere Gobby. And scrubber? Please! I’m offended. Anyway, had your rusk and bed time story. Off to bed then, got to get ready for Mr Filch tomorrow.
        
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        September 19, 2017 8:40pm
      - Gabby
        
        Tucking yourself in under your wee nest of supermarket coupons Brillo?
        
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        September 19, 2017 8:55pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    Leighton just fills in the gaps between the Ian Wishart infomercials.
    
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    September 19, 2017 11:02am
- RF
  
  Keeping Stock
  
  I think I know the reason.
  
  My neighbour has just told me that Leighton has a blog called the Spinoff where he was very critical about her comrade speech.
  
  Have a look…. it’s doing the rounds in Wellington.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:52am
  - Piniwi
    
    Wow RF is that the same Spinof crew that made the National Ad? Great little song too.
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:02pm
- cha
  
  I wonder if the issue is that Newstalk ZB refused to give her a list of the questions Leighton Smith would ask her…
  
  Going to apologise, Tony….
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97003906/jacinda-arderns-grandmother-dies-in-hospital
  
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  September 19, 2017 3:25pm
- Piniwi
  
  Interesting KS. Check out her visit to Red radio this morning but be aware it is hard to take. Every response gets a gushing forth of absolute drivel. Looked like Esponer was doing a crossword between question. She got tangled up when he showed her the water tax policy in their manifesto. Even she is confused but there is a line of drivel to cover up her ineptitude. Silly girl does even realise that that just compounds her impression of being an airhead.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:50pm
itstricky

She also bares her teeth so much
What a f$%king *bobblehead*

SWIFTY!

KEEPING STOCK!
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September 19, 2017 8:24am
- Swifty
  
  I’m not so sure about this one itstricky.
  
  There is a passing resemblance….
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNuzmKc7mq4
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:36am
  - itstricky
    
    Come now Swifty – I asked you to remind them that only dirty leftie commies resort to personal attacks. You remember?
    
    What does it mean if you join in?
    
    I see KS has somehow managed to “skip” read these ones as well…
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:27am
itstricky

Ah, there you are. Can you do something about those other two, please?
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September 19, 2017 8:24am
Ross12

No wonder Labour likes early voting. Never mind the law it doesn’t apply to them

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/09/labour-illegally-campaigning-early-voting-booths/#more-334217
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September 19, 2017 8:38am
Victor Omega

Clark comes out swinging against farmers who called Adern a “Pretty little communist”. Clark defended Arden, calling the farmers “mysoginists” and “climate change deniers”. The one label she apparently didn’t think needed defending was “communist”. Quite telling.
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September 19, 2017 8:39am
- All_on_Red
  
  Let’s hope Clark call them ‘Deplorables’
  That’s really worked in the past…
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:43am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Or ‘chinless scarf wearers’
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:10am
- Rich Prick
  
  Why has The Beast injected herself into our election? I thought we’d seen the back of it for good.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:04am
- Gabby
  
  You and Lants need to get your attack lines untangled.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:33am
  - Victor Omega
    
    My take on it was;
    “pretty little” = misogyny
    Farmer denigrating Adern (who blames farmers for “damaged water and climate ecosystems”) and not falling into line = climate change denier.
    Seems the communist label went by unnoticed, which is what would happen in the sub-conscious of a person who doesn’t view communism negatively.
    
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    September 19, 2017 11:23am
- oldpark
  
  Yes Clark came out from under her rock. She just couldn’t help herself. Last time she was in power she broke every respect for the any form of decency. She was and still is a “commie “masquerading as a socialist. Took NZ and National to make the nation feel clean again. What a disaster she is back, couldn’t stay away. Now using an inept lightweight novice in “Commie Chic” Ardern to satify her lust for power .Even if the puppet strings she pulls daily on Ardern to carry out her commands of domination,of unsuspecting NZs . Two Ticks Blue.
  
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  September 19, 2017 12:19pm
- Sarkozygroupie
  
  Has Helen Clark actually finished up at the UN yet, or is she just back on leave to run St. Teeth like a puppet, for a few weeks?
  
  That woman is like a bad smell. Why doesn’t she go climb a mountain somewhere and fall into a cravass on the way or something handy like that.
  
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  September 19, 2017 7:21pm
wiseowl

What a conundrum.
Vote for Cindy and get a tax on water.
Vote for National and get water use dictated by iwi.
votefornewzealand.com
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September 19, 2017 8:44am
- Inandout
  
  Cindy will tax water, yes, but also the iwis ( I love pruralising) will get to clip the tikiti also.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:11am
  - Piniwi
    
    Ya Inandout. As always it will be all 4 corners with stuff all left “to clean up rivers” or new council trinkets.
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:08pm
dime

lmao how the fuck is a private pipleine the govts responsibility?

jacindas “thoughts” on it show she is either a) full of shit or b) thick.
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September 19, 2017 8:45am
- Lance
  
  I’m going for both
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:35am
- MCos
  
  The oil companies love people like you, dime.
  
  It’s the government’s responsibility to the nation to ensure that essential services are maintained. Why do you think the Navy have been brought in to help with fuel distribution?
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:13am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Good to hear the gummit s fulfilling its responsibilities then.
    Thanks Navy
    So when is AIA going to reach into its pocket to fix its problem?
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:21am
  - dime
    
    “The oil companies love people like you, dime.”
    
    i would have thought oil companies would prefer jacindas view – the govt needs to build them another pipeline.
    
    dime doesnt want to give them a cracker.
    
    free market.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:27am
- Rich Prick
  
  She doesn’t have “thoughts” on anything which is why she bails out of radio interviews. She’s just showing us her “in charge” face. But comes across as that annoying neighbour who moans about your untrimmed hedge.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:22am
- Gabby
  
  dim’s gettin didingenuous
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:34am
  - Brito
    
    Enunciation Gobby! With big loud voice so we can hear you down the back of the creche, tongue behind the teeth and…disingenuous!!!
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:38am
    - Gabby
      
      Brillo you little scrubber!
      
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      September 19, 2017 7:00pm
      - Brito
        
        Well, when you’re not watching because of creche commitments, people talk about you behind your back.
        
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        September 19, 2017 8:42pm
cmm

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11923648

Farmer says she’s a “pretty communist”

Helen Clark’s tweet does not deny this at all: “Let’s hope most Kiwis have moved on from mysogyny and [climate change denial]”, missing the main point that she’s a bloody communist.

I’m not sure how she thinks that helps.

If people yell misogyny every time Jacinda gets rebuked it’s going to be a long three years if she gets in.
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September 19, 2017 8:46am
- skyblue
  
  Then Clark is an ugly communist.
  Wonder if Taxinda’s BF is a faux BF like Peter Davis? However, there are rumours Taxinda is up the duff. More than Peter Davis could achieve. Had more chance of conceiving in an LA shitter.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:55am
  - sam green
    
    Awwwwww – a new slur. How cute.
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:10am
    - starboard
      
      stooooooooopid boy
      
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      September 19, 2017 10:43am
  - Gabby
    
    Having a bob each way there skypue.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:37am
  - Muttonbird
    
    And Labour is supposed to be the nasty party?
    
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    September 19, 2017 3:03pm
- MCos
  
  That guy with the sign has eight kids and collects WFF payments. Politicians get labeled communists in NZ for establishing such schemes to help careless chaps such as himself.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:22am
  - Gabby
    
    No, he want the gumbint out of his life.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:38am
Keeping Stock

Helen Clark went into bat for Ms Ardern on Twitter yesterday, expressing the hope that New Zealanders had moved on from misogyny.

Could that possibly be the same Helen Clark who on 14 October 2008 accused then Leader of the Opposition John Key of being verbally abusive towards his wife and children?

Miss Clark: “You might be used to shouting people down at home but you are not shouting me down.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/politics/narrow-victory-key-debate

Pot; meet kettle Miss Clark.
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September 19, 2017 8:49am
- Inandout
  
  Helen is jetting out of NZ now that she has laid her cockroach eggs in this campaign. Let us hope the eggs are infertile.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:54am
- Swifty
  
  I think people forget how vile Clark could be at times.
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:30am
  - itstricky
    
    It’s interesting you keep doubling down on these statements. In the space of just half an hour, JA has been called a “bobbling tooth head with a fake boyfriend” and, apparently, HC is the mean one…
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:23am
    - itstricky
      
      Oh, and JA is also “thick as shit”. There’s a goodie. So let’s round that up. In a the space of a couple of hours:
      
      A thick as shit, bobbling tooth head, with a fake sterile boyfriend.
      
      When did HC ever say such thing?
      
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      September 19, 2017 10:31am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Are you denying Clark’s quoted accusation as posted above itstricky. I suggest you read the ODT story I provided a link to, and you’ll find that’s exactly the accusation she made.
      
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      September 19, 2017 11:20am
      - itstricky
        
        What gives you the idea I’m denying anything?
        
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        September 19, 2017 2:19pm
    - Swifty
      
      Now, now, itstricky – I don’t read every Kiwiblog comment, every day.
      
      I have work to do.
      
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      September 19, 2017 11:24am
      - itstricky
        
        Those samples came from comments either side of yours, within 30 minutes of yours. I saw them within seconds. And they’re not unusual or uncommon. I can give you the benefit of doubt with a plead of ignorance but I don’t believe you’re blind.
        
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        September 19, 2017 2:22pm
  - lifesgood
    
    All the time!
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:26am
  - GoVege
    
    A bit rigid I’ll agree, but never “vile”.
    But Nats do like to say nasty things about “lefties”.
    
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    September 19, 2017 4:13pm
- Gabby
  
  That’s not an accusation smuggy, it’s an insinuation.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:39am
VicParking

The MSM has started to run scared, the failing newspaper and Red Radio are going overboard to blame the government for all and everything.
Forget about the additional people who are now getting treatment the Radio has found half a dozen patients who are on a waiting list. People have forgotten the length of those lists under Labour.
A idiot has damaged a private pipeline, all Nationals fault. The tooth fairy is starting to look like West/Left witch so she is being hidden from anyone who is not a child or the “Unwashed”.
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September 19, 2017 8:49am
- krazykiwi
  
  People have forgotten ~~the length of those lists under~~ that Labour simply threw 1000’s of people off the lists and then crowed about how they’d reduced waiting lists.
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:13am
- MCos
  
  “A idiot has damaged a private pipeline”
  Translation
  A farmer smashes a fuel line and his comrades protest in the streets
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:27am
- Gabby
  
  The men who will die before they needed to will be thrilled to know you find their deaths trivial VicBarking.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:41am
  - Brito
    
    Bugger Gobby you said something I agree with. I need to find my pills.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:58am
  - VicParking
    
    Gabby where did I trivalise these people. You Forget about the thousands additional people who have had operations under this government. You drag up people who are still to be operated on and without any evidence that its the governments fault you bitch and moan. Its your crowd who have pushed them front and centre. The Liebour party has been using this tactic for the last five years. Otago DHB is a mess, not due to this government but the crowd Labour put in charge in the mid 2000’s. Why wasn’t the new hospital built when it was needed in 2005?
    Gabby: someone who is easily confused.
    
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    September 19, 2017 2:13pm
Evadne

The true misogyny is from those who hold that Jacinda can’t be criticised because she’s a woman. Presumably that because they believe, deep down,
that women are weaker and more fragile than men and must be protected from adverse comment.

The rest of us believe in the equality of sexes, that both men and women are capable of robust debate, competent policy-making, accountability and reason. And that some men and some women are lacking in those things and should be called out for it.
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September 19, 2017 8:54am
- Inandout
  
  I wonder how many young people would bother to find out what the word misogyny means, or even how to pronounce it…’missoginny’. Also I don’t have any contempt for Jacinda, as Helen implies, just because I think she is totally unsuited as a leader.
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:02am
  - Brito
    
    Ask them if they’ve ever heard of misandry. Apply that to a few people and see what they have to say.
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:18am
  - waikatogirl
    
    So all those FEMALE farmers attending the protest in Morrinsville yesterday are misogynists? Hulun is protecting her protege with feminism clap-trap. It is unacceptable that Cindy has to be protected from political questions by the country. Men have just as much right as anyone to question Cindy on her policies and it is disingenuous to protect her from questions.
    
    Cindy is standing for the top job of PM, if she can’t stand the heat then she needs to get out of the kitchen.
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:56am
    - Brito
      
      Wasn’t Miss Ogeny one of Gobby’s carers at the creche?
      
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      September 19, 2017 10:35am
      - Gabby
        
        Ugh, Britto, you’re the worst.
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:43am
    - Gabby
      
      It’s a day out, wakkogirl.
      
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      September 19, 2017 10:42am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Don’t underestimate the women on the land Gobby.
        
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        September 19, 2017 11:07am
- holysheet
  
  It would be a blow to wimmins rights if Cindy got to be PM and found she was to be paid 20-30% less the Bill Is being paid???
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:35am
- Piniwi
  
  True Enadne but we do acknowledge there is something other than the vote that woman crave for. No sexist intention implied or made but why DO we have a Ministry of Women’s Affairs?
  
  Being old fashioned the old curtisies are still extended to woman but apart from most us see them as the same. We are all people with a distinctive “difference” between dots and dashes. Likewise we each have diffences in the areas we excel at is normal.
  
  Taxinda has accepted a promoment roll in politics and there is a challenging election coming on 23rd. Being in the public arena is not all beer and skittles so there will always be some verbal strikes. Making the main thrust of their campaign on personalities was Labour’s choice. On that basis it is fair that the chosen one can hack it or flop.
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:30pm
VicParking

Labour and the Greens would rather the water run into the sea than let the “Rich Prick” farmers use it to benefit the economy.
They would rather we sat around cold and in the dark than burn coal when the sun does not shine, the wind does not blow and it does not rain.
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September 19, 2017 8:57am
Digmen1

Yes National should have banned early voting.

And killed the last two big unions, Teachers and Unite.

And put royalties on export water bottlers.
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September 19, 2017 9:08am
- MCos
  
  Why do you disagree with early voting?
  What’s wrong with the unions?
  
  When are you going to learn to write in properly structured sentences?
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:42am
  - cmm
    
    “Why do you disagree with early voting?”
    
    Because it is costing us millions to run the polling stations for 2 weeks rather than just one day. We already had a perfectly acceptable postal vote system for people that could not vote on the day.
    
    ” What’s wrong with the unions?” They’re destructive. They don’t look after anyone except the union bosses.
    
    “When are you going to learn to write in properly structured sentences?” When unionised teachers start teaching maybe?
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:50am
    - MCos
      
      Interesting you should mention the postal system.
      My partner is out of the country and is not going to vote. With a postal system a more unscrupulous person than myself could have cast her vote.
      
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      September 19, 2017 11:15am
      - Ross12
        
        MCos
        I’m in the same position except my wife has voted overseas.
        The voting pack came in the mail this morning and I’m wondering what checks there in the system to stop the potential double vote ( I could easily give the easy vote card to a female friend to take along to the booth to use it to vote).
        I have never thought about the integrity of our voting system until I read about, the total mess they have in the USA, during their last election.
        This is an obvious flaw in our system.
        Could be easily fixed by requiring us to show an ID at the booth.
        
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        September 19, 2017 12:44pm
      - cmm
        
        There are many ways to defraud the voting system.
        
        Luckily most of us are honest.
        
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        September 19, 2017 3:03pm
    - GoVege
      
      If it’s in aid of democracy, cmm, then you know it’s worth it.
      
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      September 19, 2017 4:16pm
      - cmm
        
        No it doesn’t aid democracy. All the opportunities for voting are already there so nothing is standing in the way of democracy.
        
        All it does is reward people who are too lazy to use the system that existed. Are people that are so lazy actually going to make a carefully considered vote and help democracy?
        
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        September 19, 2017 5:11pm
      - MCos
        
        Why do you want to put obstacles in the way of people who, for whatever reason, are not in a position to vote on one particular day?
        There are many other reasons besides laziness. Hospitalisation or incapacitation by illness, police work in a remote location, on tour with the woman’s national football team, and just sheer inconvenience for a myriad of reasons.
        In my opinion voting should be compulsory as it is in Australia.
        
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        September 19, 2017 10:31pm
dime

i see jacinda bought her house at the peak of the market lol typical leftie.

the ad for it is still online from last year.. might be poor form to post it here though.

tiny 3 bedder in point chev.. but shes such a bogan!!!
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September 19, 2017 9:12am
- cmm
  
  Yup, why not wait until she’d solved Auckland’s housing prices?
  
  She clearly knows what side of her bread has the butter on it. Clearly not a vote of self-confidence.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:52am
  - sam green
    
    Perhaps she needs somewhere to live.
    
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    September 19, 2017 12:36pm
    - cmm
      
      Why? Did her boyfriend turn her out?
      
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      September 19, 2017 2:34pm
- KevOB
  
  If she got a large mortgage she may not be able to afford the payments when the interest rate hikes start.
  
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  September 19, 2017 11:09am
  - MCos
    
    Maybe she is more careful with her money than that ACT bloke who apparently can’t afford to buy a house.
    
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    September 19, 2017 11:20am
    - dime
      
      “Maybe she is more careful with her money than that ACT bloke who apparently can’t afford to buy a house.”
      
      this concerns me greatly.
      
      although jacinda had been an MP a lot longer and has a partner. still seymour shouldnt be flatting with a bunch of people ffs
      
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      September 19, 2017 11:24am
- rangitoto
  
  I wonder what she really means when she says she will make NZ a bedder place ?
  
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  September 19, 2017 11:55am
dime

so someone calls chompers a pretty commie.. and helen labels it misogyny?

1) funny how she doesnt dispute the communist bit
2) helen ever use the word misandry? cause im pretty sure if she looked in the mirror..
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September 19, 2017 9:15am
- itstricky
  
  Let us know when you’ve deduced why it isn’t, dime.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:45am
  - dime
    
    no way. the onus is on the left and helen to prove WHY IT IS
    
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    September 19, 2017 11:24am
    - itstricky
      
      I know WHY IT IS dime. I want to see if you know WHY. Maybe if you did, you’d be able to answer some of your own questions.
      
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      September 19, 2017 1:52pm
Michael

If Labour does win on Saturday [ with the help of at least the Green Party ] I reckon it could be put down to a sort of nine year itch, time for a change sort of thing.
In my opinion National haven’t done much wrong in the last few years and the economy is looking pretty good.
I still haven’t made a decision, don’t know about my wife. She never tells me who she is voting for and I don’t tell her who I am voting for.
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September 19, 2017 9:33am
- Digmen1
  
  There was no mood in NZ for a change until six weeks ago when Jacinda became Labour leader.
  
  So why do we need change now?
  
  Two ticks blue
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:44am
  - Lance
    
    You know, every flight I have ever been on fully qualified pilots are flying the aircraft; time for a change?
    I had my appendix removed by a fully qualified surgeon and a fully qualified anesthetist kept me alive; time for a change?
    My accountant is fully qualified; time for a change?
    
    Most idiotic reason for a change is government is “it’s time for a change”. I dunno… maybe it should be about policies?
    
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    September 19, 2017 9:56am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Change for change sake is ridiculous, that sounds like ‘but it’s my turn’.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:07am
    - Gabby
      
      After all it’s clearly Bingles’ turn.
      
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      September 19, 2017 6:56pm
  - Gabby
    
    Tulixpu
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:46am
  - KevOB
    
    ☑️☑️
    
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    September 19, 2017 11:09am
- lifesgood
  
  Michael, so why haven’t you made a decision? It’s obvious who you should vote for, you say it in your second sentence. Why on earth would you vote Labour?
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:28am
  - GoVege
    
    That’s right, Michael!
    WHY are you not voting blue AND forcing your little woman to too??
    Don’t you realize we Nats are on the ROPES this election? ? (Gulp)
    We need every vote we can get!
    
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    September 19, 2017 12:29pm
- Gabby
  
  I reckon it will be down to curiosity. All those nasty stories that got the ‘nothing to see here, move along’ treatment. All that gaming the OIA. Those sneery types who suddenly shut up on hints they might be calling the kettle black. I’m certainly hoping for some updates.
  
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  September 19, 2017 6:55pm
waikatogirl

Is rain forecast for Saturday by any chance? I am hoping for a nasty cold, wet, windy day across the country. ?

TWO TICKS BLUE!!
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September 19, 2017 10:06am
- Gabby
  
  TULIXPU!!
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:46am
  - rangitoto
    
    SHETAXU!!
    
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    September 19, 2017 11:52am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  September 19, 2017 11:10am
- MCos
  
  Reminds me of Oscar Wilde’s kid’s story about the Selfish Giant.
  
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  September 19, 2017 11:24am
  - Paulus
    
    Because there is Paradise in the Selfish Giant.
    Lovely story, I used to read to my children.
    
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    September 19, 2017 2:05pm
    - MCos
      
      We used to go to the Rama IX weekend market in Bangkok located in a street of generally very affluent houses surrounded by high walls.
      There were some big open sided buildings for the people selling produce and some of the vendors set up along the footpaths. There were blind singers & school kids playing violins for change. Sometimes I got my hair cut on the back of a ute.
      However outside one of the big houses the three metre concrete wall was festooned with signs telling people to move along and not sell stuff there. A barren patch in a sea of noise and colour.
      I couldn’t help noticing that the scrubs that had been planted on the berm adjacent to the wall had all died.
      Always reminded me of ‘The Selfish Giant”.
      
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      September 19, 2017 5:56pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “Is rain forecast for Saturday by any chance?”
  
  Bad news wg, looks like fine everywhere except the bottom of the south.
  
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  September 19, 2017 11:41am
  - GoVege
    
    Damn!!!
    Even God’s against us Nats!
    
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    September 19, 2017 12:24pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      And now the tooth fairy’s grandma has died. That’ll mean she’ll get a sympathy vote on top of the free ride the media have given her.
      
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      September 19, 2017 2:29pm
      - cmm
        
        Yup, like I said a few days back… there are two magic cards she has not played yet:
        
        1) Announcing she’s pregnant.
        2) Huge personal loss.
        
        My genuine condolences Jacinda, but you’re still a commie and commies kill people!
        
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        September 19, 2017 2:40pm
      - cmm
        
        She is taking some time out, as she should. I took a day or so off when my granny died.
        
        That means the ugly Labour pig can’t hide behind the lipstick.
        
        Davis, Little show us what depth the Labour party has!
        
        Remember there will be times when the PM (assuming it’s Jacinda) will be unavailable and Davis. Little etc will have to fill the frame instead. Come on out boys. You can’t hide forever.
        
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        September 19, 2017 3:47pm
rightoverlabour

Give that man a beer – no 12!

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/09/shes-pretty-communist/#more-334232
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September 19, 2017 10:20am
- MCos
  
  Cameron Slater really has a way with words. No wonder he’s popular with just about nobody these days. Just an old creep that time passed by.
  
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  September 19, 2017 11:35am
- Gabby
  
  Alcohol is not his friend rightupalabia.
  
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  September 19, 2017 6:49pm
  - Brito
    
    Gabby, do you know what you just said, or hasn’t that been covered in creche anatomy yet?
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:45pm
    - Gabby
      
      Sure Brillo, Fatcambo should steer clear of the drink so he should, and you should scour out your ears.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:52pm
      - Brito
        
        I’ve finally remembered where I’ve heard of you before Gobby. Your related to Dobby aren’t you, Harry Potters House Elf.
        
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        September 19, 2017 9:23pm
Captain Mainwaring

Ardern had a little lamb
It ran into a pylon
Ten thousand volts went up its arse
And turned its wool to nylon
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September 19, 2017 10:48am
- Inandout
  
  Ah, but Jacinda has a cunning plan.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:54am
- mara
  
  A Dern across the ceiling ran
  its face a fiery red
  because when hanging upside down
  the blood ran to its head.
  
  Poet Laureate time?
  
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  September 19, 2017 12:00pm
  - kowtow
    
    Poet laurete ? ha.
    
    There was a young woman from Morrinsville,
    Of taxes she couldn’t get her fill.
    So if to power she came
    It would be a new game
    And that’s why I’ll vote for Old Bill.
    
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    September 19, 2017 12:58pm
    - RalphT
      
      Here, here, kowtow. And at lunchtime I did just that, giving my votes to the National Party and candidate.
      
      Interestingly, I was phoned by a polling company last night, the third attempt they had made to get me over two days. (I am obviously seen as a voice to be listened to.) They seemed more interested in knowing how many cellphones I had and whether we had a landline than in which way I was going to vote. I assume that this is so they can make a response if they are accused of having a survey that is biased by what kind of phone is involved?
      
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      September 19, 2017 1:17pm
- cmm
  
  ” And turned its wool to nylon”
  
  Now Winnie can’t make the carpets.
  
  With skill like that you should be able to carve off some NZ On Air funding. Maybe get a gig at RNZ with their extra $38M.
  
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  September 19, 2017 2:42pm
kowtow

This pipeline business is rather illuminating.

The left and their allies in the media are quite happy to have “fossil fuel” pumping rapidly along 24 hours a day through the sacred land of our ancestors blah blah , contributing to air miles , diesel pollution , traffic congestion, sea level rises , Pacific refugees , glacier melt etc .

But when something goes wrong they get into high dudgeon about why the Tories could have allowed all that fossil fuel / global warming / climate crime delivery system to fail and are demanding not only gummint action to immediately fix it , but also even more back up for carbon delivery to be established!

So much for the nuclear option , generational change and a bright carbon free future , the left demand more of the same.
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September 19, 2017 11:22am
- rangitoto
  
  The airlines are the ones actually to blame. They obviously weren’t holding a big enough stick over their supplier for surety of supply.
  
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  September 19, 2017 11:53am
  - kowtow
    
    I don’t give a shit about the airlines , I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of the left and how they really love “fossil fuels” and shit loads of carbon , despite all their lies to the contrary.
    
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    September 19, 2017 12:47pm
  - cmm
    
    It all comes down to costs vs damages.
    
    Estimates have put extra storage costs at around $10M per year plus all the hassles of buying land, RMA constructing tanks etc.
    
    Expected cost of a failure is about $4M per day. Expected failure interval is once every 50 years. Expected failure duration is 9 days.
    
    So the cost of a failure is expected to be 9x$4M=$36M every 50 years.
    
    The cost of running back up to reduce/prevent failure is $10Mx50= $500M per fifty years.
    
    So why do the backup when it costs about 15x as much as just handling the failure?
    
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    September 19, 2017 2:48pm
Fletch

James O’Keefe reports that he has a HUGE story coming up that exposes the largest media corporation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBeJpZPhzWo

The elites will be shivering in their boots. They’ve already targetted him with frivolous lawsuits.
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September 19, 2017 11:55am
- Brito
  
  He said, “watch this space fireworks are coming”. I think Christ will get here first because he’s coming. Maybe the Russians will because they’re still coming. More Youtube fun, stick to The Simpsons Fletch, more believable.
  
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  September 19, 2017 12:43pm
  - Fletch
    
    Nope, O’Keefe always comes up with the goods. THe CNN/ Russia “nothingburger” story, which proved that CNN is pushing the Russia narrative with no proof, just for the money; how he exposed the Democrat operatives like Creamer and Democracy Partners who purposely go out and provoke violence at rallies, etc; the selling of aborted baby parts that rocked Planned Parenthood last year. Also the busting of DisruptJ20 who planned to close down trains etc during Trump’s inauguration and use Butyric acid to close down a conservative ball.
    
    As I said, O’Keefe doesn’t make statements lightly and always comes up with the goods.
    
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    September 19, 2017 1:00pm
- cha
  
  Is wee Jimmy packing for another caper on his dildo lube caper boat?.
  
  Props
  
  1. condom jar
  2. dildos
  3. Music
  
  a. Alicia keys [sic]
  b. 80s romance songs, things that are typically James
  c. avoid Marvin Gaye as too cliche
  
  4. lube
  5. ceiling mirror
  6. posters and paintings of naked women
  7. playboys [sic] and pornographic magazines
  8. candles
  9. Viagra and stamina pills
  10. fuzzy handcuffs
  11. blindfold
  
  https://archive.li/FWPdJ/01c5bb71ae581a93c91d3adc3a5f21c87fa3ad58.jpg
  
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  September 19, 2017 1:16pm
  - Gabby
    
    Holidays with Milo?
    
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    September 19, 2017 6:47pm
Victor Omega

Hillary: Hey Amazon, I’m a bit concerned about all these negative reviews of my book.
Amazon: What negative reviews?
Hillary: Exactly.
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September 19, 2017 12:23pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Fuck she is deluded
  
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  September 19, 2017 2:51pm
Inandout

I could survive a Labour government but many won’t.

National has promised $8.2 billion in new spending over the next parliamentary term. This equates to $4,736 per household.Transparency rating: 5/5
Labour has promised $22.9 billion in new spending over the next parliamentary term. This equates to $13,287 per household. Transparency rating: 4/5
The Green Party has promised $13.3 billion in new spending over the next parliamentary term. This equates to $7,703 per household. Transparency rating: 4/5
NZ First has promised $27.5 billion in new spending over the next parliamentary term. This equates to $15,967 per household. Transparency rating: 0/5
ACT has promised $2.4 billion in savings over the next parliamentary term. This equates to $1,407 in savings per household. Transparency rating: 3/5
The Māori Party has promised $12.2 billion in new spending over the next parliamentary term. This equates to $7,060 per household. Transparency rating: 1/5
The Opportunities Party has promised $13.7 billion in new spending over the next parliamentary term. This equates to $7,939 per household. Transparency rating: 4/5
Taxpayers Union
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September 19, 2017 1:25pm
- Rich Prick
  
  So a Labour/Green/NZF coalition would cost each household $36,957. That will be a f&@king scary number for most households. Let’s do this.
  
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  September 19, 2017 2:03pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    And they could, because the $37K does not enter their head. They think the $37K will cost the ‘rich pricks’ coz the poor pricks have nothing. Deluded lefties
    
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    September 19, 2017 2:55pm
kowtow

WTF ? Surely there should be no “non essential” flying on the taxpayer at any fucking time!

“An urgent instruction has gone out to government departments ordering staff to cancel non-essential air travel as the fuel crisis continues to bite.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/govt-workers-told-cancel-air-travel
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September 19, 2017 1:44pm
- Rich Prick
  
  That was my first thought too. Do the grey ones spend their non-essential time flying aimlessly about the place hovering up Koru Club buffets and clocking up Airpoints Dollars?
  
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  September 19, 2017 1:54pm
  - cmm
    
    Well how else are you going to get those free family trips to Oz?
    
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    September 19, 2017 2:23pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Mike does I’m sure
    
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    September 19, 2017 3:08pm
Fletch

The NZ Taxpayers Union also has a new chart showing which coalitions will cost kiwis the most. There’s a nice graphic, but the text reads –

National/ACT: $5.9 billion, $3,441 per household.
National/ACT/Maori: $18.1 billion, $10,501 per household.
Labour/Green: $35.2 billion, $20,397 per household.
National/NZ First: $35.8 billion, $20,788 per household.
Labour/NZ First: $49.6 billion, $28,744 per household.
Labour/Green/NZ First: $61.7 billion, $35,787 per household.

http://www.taxpayers.org.nz/news
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September 19, 2017 2:16pm
- krazykiwi
  
  So the bids are in.
  
  I’m willing to offer $0 from my household.
  
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  September 19, 2017 2:37pm
- Brigitte
  
  Actually I think a more realistic costing would be the total for the lead party (of the coalition) and the most expensive policy from the smaller party (or for each party if more than one).
  
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  September 19, 2017 3:25pm
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Not speaking ill of the dead, but grandpa wanted to stay in Waikato Hospital, was he ill or just visiting his wife who was also in Waikato Hospital, the recently demised Ardern Grandmother.
(I am joining dots here, they may not have been husband and wife, maybe different sides of the family, however it seems such a coincidence, so ask the question was grandpa really ill or just wanted to spend the night with his wife as she was so sick).
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September 19, 2017 2:44pm
- Inandout
  
  The cynical amongst us would say this will help her career. I couldn’t possibly comment.
  
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  September 19, 2017 2:47pm
  - itstricky
    
    And here I was expecting you to retract/issue apology over your comment this morning about “how shit she looks” + the others with their disparaging “she’s freaked out and run away from question time”. And that’s all you can muster.
    
    Poor taste.
    
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    September 19, 2017 2:53pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      Dreadful. I wonder if Leighton Smith will apologise for calling her ‘chicken’ on air yesterday?
      
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      September 19, 2017 3:00pm
      - Gabby
        
        Schmiddy won’t remember.
        
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        September 19, 2017 6:42pm
    - SteveRemmington
      
      Oh stop with try to milk the poor ladies death. Have you no shame. By trying to politicise her grandmothers death shows what a fucking disgrace you are. Show some respect to Jacinda.
      
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      September 19, 2017 3:10pm
      - fluffykiwi
        
        She put grandpa out there, if you choose to use family then expect that your opposition might just use family against you. Normal politicians leave their family out of the equation, but not Jacinda, she milked grandpa for all he was worth to her in electoral speak.
        
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        September 19, 2017 3:17pm
      - Fletch
        
        I just can’t help but feel cynical about the timing of this.
        
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        September 19, 2017 3:35pm
      - Muttonbird
        
        Fletch. Are you saying she died on purpose? If so, you are very weird.
        
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        September 19, 2017 3:50pm
      - SteveRemmington
        
        I wasn’t responding to you fluffy. I was responding to tricky.
        
        Trickys first effort was to try and link a comment you made days ago with the grandmothers death. It doesn’t take much effort to see the dickhead will next be trying to link every comment or criticism of cindy as an attack against the dead.
        
        Typical trolling behaviour and I guess should be expected from such a low rent individual.
        
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        September 19, 2017 4:10pm
      - Longknives
        
        “I just can’t help but feel cynical about the timing of this.”
        
        I’m with you there Fletch- We were discussing the other night if she was going to announce her Pregnancy this week for some more fluffy bunny/sympathy votes as she had already milked the sick Grandad thing (which was very poor taste in her behalf)
        I’m sorry but The People’s Princess chose to play that game when she screamed and howled that utter tripe about her Grandfather being kicked out into the snow..I think a lot of people will be feeling a little cynical and sceptical about this.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf
        
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        September 19, 2017 4:29pm
      - itstricky
        
        Trickys first effort was to try and link a comment you made days ago with the grandmothers death. It doesn’t take much effort to see the dickhead will next be trying to link every comment or criticism of cindy as an attack against the dead.
        
        This morning Inandout made disparaging remarks about Ardern’s appearance and this morning and number of commentators made remarks about her being “too chicken” to show.
        
        On this thread. Go and read them yourself.
        
        Then stop making shit (excuse my French) up about me.
        
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        September 19, 2017 4:40pm
      - SteveRemmington
        
        And their comments when made bear no relation to the passing of Cindys grandmother so stop trying to make it so you ghoul.
        
        Typical left wing nut job. Whatever it takes to slither into power aye tricky…
        
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        September 19, 2017 5:24pm
      - itstricky
        
        I don’t quite understand why you can’t categorise calling “too chicken to show” (despite a family member dying the night before), “looking like shit on TV” (despite a family member dying the night before) or saying “having a dead grandmother is great for her career!” as really crap things to say.
        
        Then again, you seem to have the predilection of a 7 year old towards calling me names and putting words in my mouth, so I can’t say I’m completely surprised.
        
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        September 19, 2017 6:25pm
- kowtow
  
  I think the less said the better. Out of respect and all that.
  
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  September 19, 2017 3:57pm
Digmen1

Not showing up for a major radio station is not a good luck.
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September 19, 2017 3:20pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  Wonder whether grandma had voted, or whether grandpa has voted.
  I am making sure my 98 year old mother votes, but then she is still compos mentis.
  
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  September 19, 2017 6:26pm
  - Gabby
    
    You’ll let her stop when she dies won’t you fluffer.
    
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    September 19, 2017 6:39pm
Michael

Just to clarify .
I did make the comment that National has not done much wrong since coming to power in 2008. By the same token Labour had not done much wrong in the nine years from 1999 to 2008.
So in effect the public voted for change in 2008 for no good reason and they may well do the same in 2017.
I personally am no better or worse off in 2017 than I was in 2008.
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September 19, 2017 3:28pm
- Brito
  
  That Michael, is called standing still. I advised yesterday that you should buy up some Yankee dollars just to hedge your bets. If Cindy gets in the dollar will fall. You’ll make a killing. If not switch your Yankee to Pounds and then by Kiwi. You’ll get your money back plus. However, I did suggest that we should all vote Labour – just because I’m a rationalist. I just voted and my DNA rebelled and I fell back into commonsense land – two ticks blue. I tried…but I couldn’t do it. I’m a failed rationalist.
  
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  September 19, 2017 3:42pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Brito, you may have failed, but the country may win. We salute your bravery, and are inspired by your battle to overcome your inner turmoil. Oh, that many may learn from the sacrifice you have made…. A toast, to that principled man amoungst men.
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:23pm
    - Brito
      
      Trying to be humble here. Thanks rightoverlabour.
      
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      September 19, 2017 8:48pm
- MCos
  
  My personal situation has not deteriorated or improved for years and unless something unforeseen happens that won’t change whoever is the next government.
  However when I vote that’s not what’s on my mind.
  Never has been.
  I vote for whoever I think is best for the country and will work towards improving the circumstances of those less fortunate than myself.
  
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  September 19, 2017 5:39pm
  - Brito
    
    MCos are you wearing a hair shirt and do you flagellate regularly? This emancipated, others over self bullshit makes this country what it is today. There is a safety net for god’s sake. Unfortunately the net mesh gets smaller and smaller which means more and more become dependent on it. Stop with the JFK paradigm.
    
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    September 19, 2017 7:44pm
    - MCos
      
      You vote however however you like. If that is to be purely on selfish grounds, suit yourself.
      Quite clearly you think must there is no room for improvement in the health system, no housing crisis, no polluted rivers, and you’re fine with people being paid so poorly they have to be propped up by the government.
      I’m not happy the country has been allowed to drift such that the government should be having to act as a safety net to employed people thus enabling them to be paid minimal wages.
      
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      September 19, 2017 10:52pm
kowtow

There are some right fucking idiots out there.

But taonga ? Pull the other one , they ate the fucking things.

“It’s really disheartening someone would do this, sea lions are not only critically endangered but also a taonga species special to Ngai Tahu. To discover someone has such reckless disregard for our protected species is extremely disappointing.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/south-otago/endangered-sea-lion-shot-catlins-beach
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September 19, 2017 3:54pm
Fletch

Stuff have a poll on their webpage asking people who they would vote for. At the moment over 99,300 people have voted and the results so far –

National 43%
Labour 35%
Greens 9%
Opportunities Party 8%
NZ First 4%
Maori Party 0% (!)
ACT Party 1%
United Future 0%
Mana 0%
Conservative Party 0%

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96897026
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September 19, 2017 4:12pm
- Digmen1
  
  Did the Opportunity party supporters vote twice?
  Eight percent!
  Come on!
  But I do like Nationals 8% lead over Labour.
  
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  September 19, 2017 5:00pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    I was able to vote again after voting when the poll first started. I voted from the same computer, so you could well be on to something. I tested it out, this time I said I voted for National, the first time I said I voted for Act.
    
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    September 19, 2017 5:05pm
- CHFR1
  
  It is a self selecting poll but interesting none the less as Stuff have pushed Labour, oh that it is true on Saturday.
  
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  September 19, 2017 5:04pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  I have been watching this poll but I am not convinced it’s accurate. The Figures for Act, and possibly Nat may be right, but Lab seems too low, NZ first far too low, Greens way to high and TOP way out of line. I actually voted twice, once Nat, and then on a different computer for the Maori Party, but it still remained at 0%. I suspect the large early voter turn out may be good for National, as there are a lot of very pissed off Nat voters out there, especially Rural people, and land lords. We have the most to lose if the Pretty Communist and her Bolshevics take power.
  
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  September 19, 2017 8:17pm
fluffykiwi

See she is going for the soft option of a Simon Dallow interview tomorrow.
I unfortunately cannot even refer to her by name, she has become “she” at the moment. Lightweight. begging the young people to get out and vote for her. she knows that any one older can see right through her and labour for what they are and what they always have been.
Youngsters always seek immediate gratification, she is out there begging them.
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September 19, 2017 4:17pm
Chuck Bird

This woman claims that she did not realize she was pregnant till 18 weeks. I wonder if she is being truthful. Has anyone got the medical knowledge to know if this can be true?

No choice: When a legal abortion is denied

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11923932
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September 19, 2017 4:32pm
- Dafixeruppa
  
  Chuck, in my time working with St John, we took a number of women to hospital complaining of “stomach pains” when they were in the process of giving birth, but they claimed they were not pregnant, all of them ended up in the Psych ward after though…
  
  EDIT: Actually some women still have periods and no morning sickness, so the first sign is that they start getting a “belly” that they can’t explain, or they get a pain that they can’t explain, go to the Doc and find that they are pregnant, so yes it is possible, but rather uncommon
  
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  September 19, 2017 5:04pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Thank you.
    
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    September 19, 2017 5:28pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  https://www.bustle.com/articles/138809-5-reasons-women-can-be-pregnant-for-months-not-know-it
  
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  September 19, 2017 9:46pm
Johnboy

It just doesn’t feel the same without Milkey here.
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September 19, 2017 4:34pm
- stigie
  
  Is Milky in the naughty corner for a bit..?
  
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  September 19, 2017 5:23pm
Jack5

Why is the Department of Immigration allowing this no-hoper to stay in the country?

NZ’s immigration system is a shambles.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/339722/man-granted-work-visa-after-fraught-asylum-battle
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September 19, 2017 4:42pm
- kowtow
  
  Why indeed?
  
  Yesterday RNZ ran a story about work visa Indian woman killing herself . System unfair , making it so hard for them , but also the fact that unscrupulous emplyers are screwing them into all sorts of shit .
  
  The working visa holder is complicit in the exploitation as they agree to be screwed in order to screw immigration and get to stay here.
  
  The whole thing is a rort.
  
  RNZ while happy to identify the exploited as mainly Indians , only hinted at who the exploitative , unscrupulous in fact criminal employers are , though they did say this has become a big problem since 2014.
  
  Is that because the exploiters are not pale ? But they will have other diverse characteristics.
  
  Is RNZ afraid of being called racist , or are they deliberately protecting a certain “community”.
  
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  September 19, 2017 4:52pm
  - Gabby
    
    You managed to figure it out kobknob.
    
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    September 19, 2017 6:29pm
    - Brito
      
      Gobby, that’s language unbefitting a House Elf!
      
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      September 19, 2017 9:26pm
Johnboy

Ah so all those dancing folks really can’t be trusted to do an honest check on your vehicle.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/96998367/vtnz-investigated-after-employee-tips-off-head-hunters-hit-squad
Now I know why I never go there for a warrant! 🙂
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September 19, 2017 4:43pm
- cmm
  
  They can just look it up on the database whether or not you get your WOF done there.
  
  All WOF mechanics and others that can access NZTA databases can do the same.
  
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  September 19, 2017 5:20pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Maybe but I’ve never seen my mate Murray the mech doing a fuckin jigaboo dance like those twits on that bloody dreadful advert. VTNZ wants to seriously get its act together. 🙂
    
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    September 19, 2017 6:13pm
    - cmm
      
      Maybe it was because they were servicing a hybrid?
      
      Mean shocks if you touch one of those high voltage batteries.
      
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      September 19, 2017 7:49pm
- kowtow
  
  Privacy commissioner?
  
  If that c#nt knew the information was going to an organised crime gang then he/she was aiding and abetting a serious crime.
  
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  September 19, 2017 5:23pm
fluffykiwi

Remind me again why young people who are not yet taxpayers have the vote.
Surely the taxpayer should have some say in how their tax dollar is spent. The “children” are getting education courtesy of the taxpayer. Don’t talk about student loans etc., that does not pay the entire cost of the university education. Think the infrastructure etc.,
Those young people who are actually out on the job working as builders, plumbers, electricians should in reality have more say if they are paying tax.
(Now watch everyone get up set with that suggestion)
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September 19, 2017 4:54pm
- MCos
  
  Picking and choosing who should have the vote beyond a certain age and with the arguable exception of prisoners is 19th century thinking.
  
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  September 19, 2017 5:18pm
  - kowtow
    
    Certain nutters can’t vote . I’d extend that to all nutters and evidence of an intention to vote for the Greens or TOP would be prima facie proof of mental illness.
    
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    September 19, 2017 5:31pm
Digmen1

Don’t worry
I just saw Jacinda Iderno on tv and says says that we need to fix our infrastructure

So she will give free infrastructure for everyone.
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September 19, 2017 4:57pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  There are a lot of things we need to fix, priorities are important and my first thought is “fixing” who we allow to stand for parliament.
  I feel people who actually do the hard yards out there in the work force, people who come home exhausted from a real hard day’s work or grind, might be a good place to start.
  I also am of the view that less is more when it comes to politicians, less MP’s of a better quality. Pay enough and you will get people who are not just looking for a seat to warm like so many of our present incumbents.
  
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  September 19, 2017 5:04pm
  - Gabby
    
    We could probably do without agents of a foreign power, even if we want to sell them cheap swamp kauri.
    
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    September 19, 2017 6:22pm
- krazykiwi
  
  So she will give free infrastructure for everyone
  
  +1 🙂
  
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  September 19, 2017 5:49pm
- Gabby
  
  Did she really say that or are you being a dicman.
  
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  September 19, 2017 6:24pm
  - Brito
    
    Gobby, as a House Elf you meant to serve the Wizards and make life difficult for the Muggles. Behave or it’s Disappeario stupendo to you.
    
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    September 19, 2017 10:18pm
    - Gabby
      
      You speak with the authority of a wet sock Brillo. You’re the worst scrubber.
      
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      September 20, 2017 9:35am
Inandout

Angry Little has said Tana Pora will get his inflation adjusted extra compensation if Labour is elected. Ka-ching, another $500,000 added to the $23 billion bribes.
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September 19, 2017 5:00pm
- Nookin
  
  It may well be that following guidance by the High Court a principled decision will justifiably lead to further compensation. However, Labour has completely debased the process by making it a political issue and Little should be thoroughly ashamed of himself for resorting to such base and degrading tactics.
  The High Court recorded that the advice given to the government was incorrect. It has invited the government to reconsider in the light of the correct advice. The government needs to do that wholly independently of the hype and parochialism of an election campaign.
  This should not be a vote catcher. The government should not be criticised for failing to rush the process bearing in mind the ramifications of the decision and the need to receive independent and objective advice on both the ramifications and the appropriate course of action.
  One gets the feeling that if there were votes in it, Little would pardon Mark Lundy.
  
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  September 19, 2017 6:18pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Or at least sign him up to the forestry workers union! 🙂
    
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    September 19, 2017 6:26pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Don’t give notsofast ideas!
    
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    September 19, 2017 8:54pm
Longknives

Less than 5,000 tickets sold in a 21,000 seat Stadium for the upcoming Parker/Fury debacle.
Compare this to the 90,000 at Wembley for Joshua vs Klitschko…
The WBO is the joke of World Boxing and Parker’s ‘World Championship’ is a sham. Wish someone in NZ Media (and not just Bob Jones) would have the guts to say it..
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September 19, 2017 5:50pm
- kowtow
  
  That’s why the “news” media were passing that bit of theatre between the trainer and promoter as “news”.
  
  Shameful and transparent .
  
  As the Don would say ‘fake news”.
  
  The lying press.
  
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  September 19, 2017 7:14pm
Manolo

Where is Griff?
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/tropical-storm-lee-forms-budding-maria-to-target-caribbean-islands/70002745
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September 19, 2017 5:53pm
- Johnboy
  
  Comforting Milkey? 🙂
  
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  September 19, 2017 6:16pm
- starboard
  
  He just flew over Auckland…in his Yurt…
  
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  September 20, 2017 6:33am
Inandout

Jacinda is almost begging younger voters to ‘do this’. She is probably watching the Saturday weather report.
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September 19, 2017 6:23pm
sooty

Just answered the phone. It was Bill English asking for my vote! I wish the polling people would ring.
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September 19, 2017 6:50pm
EAD_TWO

Jewish author Yarden Katz publishes an article in the Jewish edited Guardian stating that White supremacist statues must fall. Even when they are of famous scientists

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/19/white-supremacist-statues-must-fall-scientists

It’s good to see they’re being more open now with their agenda – the (((Katz))) is out of the bag so to speak ??
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September 19, 2017 7:30pm
- BananaLlama
  
  What is your opinion of the Israelis helping the new right across eastern and western Europa win elections? Netenyahu has also been a supporter of Trump despite the constant whinging from left wing Shylocks in the Anglo Sphere.
  
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  September 19, 2017 10:17pm
nasska

The first thing a man looks at in a woman is her heart.

The fact that her tits are in front of her heart is not our fault.
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September 19, 2017 8:28pm
Inandout

Looking at The Guardian comments, is that a pretty Left publication? They seem very nasty types.
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September 19, 2017 10:40pm
Jack5

While the West pulls down statues, Russian puts one up – to Lieutenant-General Kalashnikov.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/19/30ft-high-statue-of-mikhail-kalashnikov-unveiled-in-moscow
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