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**VOTE BLUE VOTE BLUE VOTE BLUE VOTE BLUE VOTE BLUE**
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September 18, 2017 8:00am
- chuk
  
  Already done that. Two ticks BLUE.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:28am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Me too, two ticks blue.
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:41am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:41am
- EAD_TWO
  
  National are the only sensible choice.
  
  They have more than tripled the rate of immigration into NZ to ensure that NZ business can stay competitive by not having to pay higher wages.
  
  They told all those wicked parents who liked to beat their children to get lost.
  
  They have employed Devoy to hunt down all the bigots in this country.
  
  They have ensured that no Maori Tribe get’s left behind by ensuring all historical settlements are topped up if Finlayson gives a bigger settlement to the latest claimant.
  
  They have ensured closer links to China whether that be by accepting money to change our flag, employing their spooks or permitting the sale, unseen, of our housing stock to faceless Chinese investors.
  
  Despite being elected on a ticket of change, they have kept all of Labours flagship policies.
  
  They have helped create an economic boom with record low interest rates meaning that people can take on more debt and boost up Asset Prices. This strategy is in no way similar to a Ponzi.
  
  Two ticks blue if you want to keep this up.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:54am
  - dime
    
    EAD_TWO – who will you vote for? ACT?
    
    i think act! is a wasted vote. seymour gets in and wont bring enough for a second MP.
    
    or do you want the entire system to come down and then get rebuilt?
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:28am
    - Colville
      
      dime.
      I think recent polling has Seymour plus one getting in.
      The hologram is worth supporting IMHO and with a +1 in parliament I think they would get a lot more done.
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:06am
      - Surely Knott
        
        The greens are pushing hard on facebook their strategic voting. And are asking for all green and labour voters in epsom to vote National for their electorate vote.
        
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        September 18, 2017 10:46am
      - dime
        
        well thats good to know!
        
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        September 18, 2017 12:24pm
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Who will I vote for?
      
      None of the above. I refuse to give them any of them my consent.
      
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      September 18, 2017 4:33pm
- VicParking
  
  Our family six ticks blue
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:13am
  - Colville
    
    I have done my bit for the cause by turning a Labour voting unionist into a Nat voter 🙂
    
    But I am voting yellow!
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:21am
  - lifesgood
    
    Mine too!
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:22am
- oldpark
  
  Yes “Commie Chic” Ardern performing the dance of the desperate telling more lies and putting the boot into National on the Auckland airline fuel ‘debacle’. Just a sniff of what type of upheaval will happen in NZ if the trade unions who run the Lie-bour/Green mafias. “Commie Chic” has also done another flip flop blaming fuel pipe was installed on Nats watch,on the fuel pipeline , the truth is it was installed on Lie-bour watch in the Eighties. Work was done by the corrupt boilermakers union. “Two Ticks Blue”.
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:40am
  - calendar girl
    
    Regardless of whose political ‘watch’ it was when the pipeline was laid, it beggars belief that such a critical piece of the country’s strategic and communications infrastructure can come to grief in such a mishap. However accidental the direct cause may have been. It comes close to qualifying for the dreaded ‘third world’ description.
    
    Ultimately the security of the fuel pipeline to Auckland rests with Refining NZ, the Marsden Point owner and operator of the pipeline. But this event is greater in its impact on New Zealand, its people, businesses and economy than what can simply be fixed through an insurance policy. I would expect any incoming Government to formalise an ongoing interest in the integrity and security of this particular supply line and other infrastructure of comparable national importance.
    
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    September 18, 2017 1:07pm
  - Gabby
    
    It’s all right oldfart, it wasn’t really some bugger digging up swamp kauri tabletops to send home to China.
    
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    September 18, 2017 1:58pm
  - cha
    
    was installed on Nats watch,on the fuel pipeline , the truth is it was installed on Lie-bour watch in the Eighties.
    
    It was one of the final acts in National’s think big drama.
    
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    September 18, 2017 4:19pm
- Doubledimp
  
  Just voted too, 2 ticks blue, in O-ha-ri-u!
  
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  September 18, 2017 12:22pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  I did I did I did last week last week last week.
  Looks like I am onto a winner.
  Two ticks blue for you procrastinators
  
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  September 18, 2017 4:44pm
Notsofast

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
On 20 Oct, 2013, Rodney Hide wrote an article that begins

Justice demands that a couple of heads be rolled down Molesworth St. That that hasn’t happened highlights that our justice system lacks its most crucial ingredient: justice. The prosecution, on our behalf, used suspect evidence to convict Mark Lundy.The police knew it was suspect but used it anyway. And worse, they kept it hidden that their own expert had questioned their evidence’s validity. Keeping that advice hidden was unlawful and cut across Lundy’s right to a fair trial, and just process.

That finishes

And now the Privy Council has quashed Lundy’s conviction and ordered a retrial. A couple of high-ups should swing for this travesty of justice. But they won’t. Our justice system lacks the necessary transparency and accountability. The hard questions don’t get asked. And those responsible don’t get held to account.Lundy is fortunate to have had access to the Privy Council. That’s now denied to New Zealanders. We now have a closed and perfectly hermetically sealed justice system.

…………………………………………………………………………………

He is completely correct, and finally in October the people of New Zealand should see how. This is an epic injustice promoted and defended by all current New Zealand politicians by default. Let us see who deals with this and how.

Thank you Rodney, you most intelligent and sadly missed politician.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11142914
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September 18, 2017 8:01am
- KevOB
  
  A sense of justice makes a politician. (Excludes SJW’s)
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:44am
- VicParking
  
  I was in Wellington, I just took some of my wifes brian down with me to keep me company after the hor left.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:15am
krazykiwi

If you want the airline to put you up in a hotel, feed you, transfer you and generally insulate you from the consequences to travel disruption… then tick the ‘YES – I WANT INSURANCE’ option and pay the few extra dollars.

If you want a lower cost travel, don’t tick that option. You assume the risk, and you lose the right to bitch about the airline.

It would help if the media asked about insurance selection before publishing the inevitable hard-luck stories.
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September 18, 2017 8:01am
- CHFR1
  
  Totally agree with you. I am a travel broker and it drives me nuts when people say no they don’t want insurance. The extra few hundred you may spend is well worth it as the situation this week shows.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:39am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Garbage. Insurance always costs more than what you get back, and should only be purchased when you can’t afford the loss. It is far better to self-insure and just pay for any issues that arise. Anecdotally; in the 200-300 commercial flights I have made, mostly international, I have never needed flight insurance.
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:50am
    - VicParking
      
      Your luck will run out sooner or later.
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:17am
      - dime
        
        “Your luck will run out sooner or later.”
        
        yep. but will that cost more than 300 flights worth of insurance?
        
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        September 18, 2017 9:29am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        If you don’t insure when you can afford the loss then even if your luck runs out at some point, all the money you have saved by not buying insurance over the years will more than cover it.
        
        The problem with travel insurance is that overseas medical costs can be huge so you need cover for that, but insurers tend to bundle all kinds of other coverage as well so you end up paying for stuff you don’t want.
        
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        September 18, 2017 9:46am
      - Gabby
        
        dim’s gettin actuarial
        
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        September 18, 2017 2:02pm
    - Paulus
      
      I have travelled most of my adult life and never had an insurance claim but still buy one.
      Then a few years ago my wife’s eye went in China – we flew fast to Singapore and straight into their magnificent Eye Hospital for serious operation and four days hotel. Wonderful service at a cost.
      Thanks local Insurer – not a murmur – $12,000 fully paid.
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:21am
    - krazykiwi
      
      I never insure flying locally.. and always insure when flying internationally. It’s not the lost luggage or extra hotel nights that I can’t afford, it’s the gazillions of $$ for airlift/hospital/repatriation if I execute an involuntary dismount from my bike somewhere rocky and expensive.
      
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      September 18, 2017 4:39pm
  - Colville
    
    CHFR
    Re: insurance
    Evidently the visa card I use has an insurance provision if I pay for (>50% of the) travel with it.
    Is this kinda thing any different to commercially obtained insurance?
    The only time I have missed a flight was out of USA soon after 9/11 (troops in airport searching everyone) and Emirates bent over backwards and upgraded us … so have never had to claim on insurance.
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:58am
    - Paulus
      
      Read your policy in detail first before buying and see what is not covered eg re Motor Vehicle excess etc as an example.
      These are not always covered under the Bank Insurance scheme.
      Sorry, read the small print.
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:24am
      - krazykiwi
        
        Another carve-out is scooter accidents. If you’re in Greece use a donkey!
        
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        September 18, 2017 4:41pm
  - MCos
    
    I presume you are talking about travel insurance as opposed to the extra ten bucks or so for an internal flight.
    When I lived in Thailand there was a constant stream of terrible stories of tourists with no insurance getting caught out. People would get wiped out on motorbikes not wearing helmets, spent a week in ICU and the hospital wouldn’t discharge them until the bill was paid. Mum & Dad back home would be raising mortgages . . . . .
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:37am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Travel medical insurance is an entirely different kettle of fish. An accident or mishap in the wrong place can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. For most people that is more than they can easily afford, so always travel with medical insurance.
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:27am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Yes, health insurance for travel is absolutely essential. Travel insurance for a change of flight or hotel assistance is more optional.
        
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        September 18, 2017 7:03pm
- Ross12
  
  I flew Air Asia recently. We taxied out in Auckland and then went straight back –a faulty fuel pump. They thought they could fix quite quickly but no go. We were all got put at hotels ( except those that live in Auckland) , we got meals and a transfer to and from the airport. Had to wait all the next day for the usual evening departure but again meals were provided.
  All done very civilly. Some were a little frustrated they had to wait around for a day but they were all thankful the pilot to the safety first approach.
  You could not get a more low cost air line than Air Asia (for international flights).
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:47am
starboard

**DONT VOTE LABOUR DONT VOTE LABOUR***
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September 18, 2017 8:02am
- Brito
  
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  Have you stopped taken those meds…?
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:13am
  - starboard
    
    NURSE !
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:17am
    - Brito
      
      Bed pan please. I just saw the latest poll.
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:08am
- Brito
  
  Hey Starboard how come you get 23 likes and I get 20 dislikes? Was it something I said?
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:16am
  - Gabby
    
    Ugh, Britto, you’re the worst.
    
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    September 18, 2017 2:04pm
    - Brito
      
      Gaby haven’t you got traffic to be playing in? And…there is only one ‘t’ in Brito.
      
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      September 18, 2017 3:39pm
flipper

A letter from my wife….

Dear Jacinda, [and little Jimmy Shaw]
I’ve seen you on the telly, dear,
There’s quite a hullabaloo,
But taxing this and taxing that
Means my two ticks stay BLUE
You’ll tax us on our assets
There’s nothing you won’t snatch
You’ll tax us on our holidays
You’ll tax the boat or bach
You’ve said you’ll slap a tax on fuel
So when I need the car
I can’t afford to fill it up
I won’t get very far!
You’ll tax water by the litre
And our farms will hit the wall
Have you forgotten it’s the farmers
Who grow food to feed us all?
You’ve said you’ll tax emissions,
Does that mean mine as well?
If I can’t afford to fart, my dear,
Your tax can go to hell!
You’ll tax us on the things we own
Is nothing off the table?
I dread to think what else you’ll tax
As soon as you are able
I’m told you want a ‘gift’ tax
So the bit I’ve got put by
I can’t give to my grand-kids?
They can kiss my gift good-bye?
You’ll take the joy from giving
And even when I’m dead
You’ll slap me with Inheritance tax
Or take my house instead
Taxing the shit out of all of us
Is just not very nice
And I’m hoping at the polls, my dear,
The Left will pay the price
Truth to tell, Taxinda,
I think you’ve lost the plot
You’ll not get my vote, sweetheart,
My ‘comrade’ you are not!
So thank you for reading my letter,
I’ve got things off my chest
Just leave it up to National, dear…
They really do know best.
So I’ll vote for Mr English
And his team – they’ll get it right!
A pretty smile is not enough
Goodnight, Ms Ardern…….Goodnight

C……
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September 18, 2017 8:07am
- tf78
  
  Saw that on facebook and sent it to Leighton last week, absolutely – so well done.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:12am
  - GoVege
    
    STOP PANICKING. …
    
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    September 18, 2017 10:00am
  - Paulus
    
    Seems Cinderella has cancelled her radio interview with Leighton Smith tomorrow – any idea why ? – perhaps he will ask her difficult questions.
    Or perhaps it is the pressure or monthly pressure.
    
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    September 18, 2017 2:06pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      She knows by now that Leighton can see straight through her. The gloves are off, unlike Corin Dann who appears to treat her with kid gloves. Talk about mysoginy in reverse…,
      
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      September 18, 2017 4:18pm
- Gabby
  
  Your wife said ‘snatch’ frigger, teeheehee
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:05pm
  - Brito
    
    Finally figured you out. Kiwiblog are minors allowed to be on this???
    
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    September 18, 2017 3:41pm
Happychappy

Can someone tell me when the media do polls all round the country telling you who has a chance of upsetting National in safe blue seats like the one today in Nelson why are they to scared of doing the same on Winston Peters in Northland. They are quick to give him air time to spew his bullshit blaming of National leaking his Pension over payments without proof but are not prepared to tell us who is leading the polls in NZ First only seat that they hold.
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September 18, 2017 8:11am
- m@tt
  
  The green party did the poll themselves and it’s full of shit. The media are in turn full of shit for reporting it the way they have. i.e. at all.
  Nick will safely win Nelson.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:19am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Paddy Gower has put the boot into the Greens describing this as a push-poll, and calling them “desperate”. He’s right on both counts.
    
    And why did they roll Metiria Turei out on Saturday, when she has already collapsed their vote once?
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:55am
    - Colville
      
      KS
      which poll ?
      
      From the CB poll I saw the left looked to have magically lifted by 7%.. I thought WTF !!
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:01am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/09/patrick-gower-desperate-greens-drop-fake-news-poll-in-nelson.amp.html
        
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        September 18, 2017 10:54am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Good on Paddy for calling it out.
        But hasn’t he got a face like a chimpanzee’s arse?
        
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        September 18, 2017 1:07pm
      - kowtow
        
        DTK
        
        That’s very unkind……..
        
        ……..to chimpanzees.
        
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        September 18, 2017 6:43pm
    - sooty
      
      You can bet she did not travel to Auckland on her own dime. Hippycrete for flying, as you can bet she did not ride her pushy.
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:04am
      - RF
        
        Sorry Kowtow…
        
        Hit the wrong bloody button and reported you.
        
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        September 18, 2017 8:10pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  Indeed, that was a “free” opportunity for Winston Peters to spout forth. A captive audience suggesting that he was going to spill the beans and name “names” of those alleged national party people who had leaked his private information.
  If people are not awake to Winnie by now after that they should be. that is his normal modus operandi.
  Conspiracy, suggestions, smoke and mirrors, never ever any actual proof. He hopes that if he says it enough people will believe and unfortunately there are always those willing to believe.
  I require facts, am always happy to change my opinion based on facts.
  This was classic Winnie, I suppose the only constant thing about Winnie is his behaviour, it never changes, it is always “suggestions” that he knows gullible people wish to believe.
  He is still as slippery as an eel. I am amazed that people fall for his same old rhetoric every 3 years.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:21am
  - Prince
    
    It stops the media from asking the obvious questions – why did you lie about your domestic arrangements when you first applied for Super, and why do you keep lying about how IRD would have picked this up in your annual tax returns, when there is no IRD review of living arangements ?
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:25am
    - fluffykiwi
      
      I think with all these “over payments” Winston Peters, Meteria turei, I think some serious looks at WINZ are necessary.
      What is happening with Meteria’s fraudulent claim for money has she been charged. She admitted it.
      This is the taxpayer’s money, not hers. She stole from us. There is no justification. She can at least afford to pay it back on her large MP salary.
      
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      September 18, 2017 8:41am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      LOL, anyway nobody in IRD would have thought for a moment that anyone would want to live with the old grump.
      
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      September 18, 2017 7:09pm
wiseowl

The latest modelling shows it may not be possible to grow green kiwifruit in Te Puke in fifty years time.
It’s time to stop funding these scientists who come up with these predictions of doom and gloom.
I bet the climate will be the same in fifty years time and kiwifruit will still be growing in Te Puke.
Millions will now be spent funding pratts who will try and find answers that are not there.
My computer modelling shows things will be the same.
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September 18, 2017 8:11am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  The computer modelling that showed that the ice would be gone from the Arctic by 2010>
  
  The computer modelling that showed that there’d be temperature increases that haven’t eventuated.
  
  The computer modelling that is premised on historical date that was ‘adjusted down’ for the past to ensure there is a warming trend.
  
  Time to invest in a Kiwifruit farm in Te Puke then.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:24am
  - Prince
    
    Computer modelling from Michael Cullen in 2008 showed NZ would still be in deficit in 2018.
    Despite Christchurch, and the GFC, we are now in Surplus.
    Thanks Bill.
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:29am
- cmm
  
  Tuatara have managed to exist for millions of years through all sorts of climate change.
  
  But they’re going to all die if the Evil White Man increases the temperature by 2 degrees.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:47am
  - SGA
    
    meh – you’ve a science background don’t you, cmm? From a evolutionary perspective, I’d imagine that the ability of a species to adapt to changes in their environment was heavily dependent on the speed of that change.
    I’ve no idea how that applies specifically to tuatara in the here and now, but I imagine it’s been the general principle throughout the earth’s history, no?
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:58am
    - cmm
      
      Sure, there’s that “rate of change” argument, but it falls very flat very quickly.
      
      What happens when we get El Niño events etc? We get multiple degree changes over a single year.
      
      If the tuatara can cope with that then they can surely cope with a 2 degree change over 50+ years.
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:12am
      - SGA
        
        Perhaps, but I imagine it’s a little more complicated than that. For example, a relatively long lived species might be able to deal with a temporary disruption to a season or two’s breeding due to drought, famine, or climate, but a sustained change might be a different story? Just thinking out loud.
        I also imagine that species’ ability to “ride out” environmental changes depends on other factors such as its numbers and range too.
        
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        September 18, 2017 9:45am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Remember that tuataras are cold blooded, and would then adapt to warmer temperatures quite readily.
        
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        September 18, 2017 1:11pm
      - SGA
        
        Don, just for the hell of it, I decided to bother looking up something about tuatara (I know, I know, that’s not standard KB protocol), and you’re a bit of the mark there (at least according to Wikipedia, caveat emptor).
        
        They remain active at temperatures as low as 5 °C (41 °F), while temperatures over 28 °C (82 °F) are generally fatal. The optimal body temperature for the tuatara is from 16 to 21 °C (61 to 70 °F), the lowest of any reptile. The body temperature of tuatara is lower than that of other reptiles, ranging from 5.2–11.2 °C (41.4–52.2 °F) over a day, whereas most reptiles have body temperatures around 20 °C (68 °F). The low body temperature results in a slower metabolism.
        
        and in terms of the effects of a sustained change in temperature, there was also this …
        
        The sex of a hatchling depends on the temperature of the egg, with warmer eggs tending to produce male tuatara, and cooler eggs producing females. Eggs incubated at 21 °C (70 °F) have an equal chance of being male or female. However, at 22 °C (72 °F), 80% are likely to be males, and at 20 °C (68 °F), 80% are likely to be females; at 18 °C (64 °F) all hatchlings will be females. Some evidence indicates sex determination in tuatara is determined by both genetic and environmental.
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatara
        
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        September 18, 2017 4:16pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Previous interglacial (125k years ago) was at least 1-2°C warmer than current, with sea levels about 5-6m higher owing to Greenland melt. We are in the middle of an ice age that started about 2.6million years ago with brief 10-15k year warm interglacial periods like the Holocene roughly every 100k years. Miraculously all species currently alive survived these changes, and the frequent rapid changes in environment are the reason that humans have evolved to become the dominant species.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:00am
    - SGA
      
      Miraculously all species currently alive survived these changes
      
      True, just as some species survived very catastrophic extinction events. Others, of course, are no more 🙂
      Add: I repeat that I have no idea how this applies to tuatara in the here and now – just having a conversation about environmental change and it’s effects on species in general.
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:57am
    - krazykiwi
      
      It is so good to see others making informed, sensible comment on so-called climate change. I was a rather lone voice in the wilderness at KB a decade ago.
      
      There is zero conclusive evidence that demonstrates a causative relationship between human activities and climatic changes.
      
      Zero.
      
      Lots of theory, and lots of confirmation-bias tainted research, but the theories are being steadily invalidated by observation.
      
      How many more trillions of dollars will be wasted in the UN’s pursuit of its global governance agenda?
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:13am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        “I was a rather lone voice in the wilderness at KB a decade ago.”
        
        Not quite KK.
        I have always stated that warming is just a part of climate change, which has been happening since creation. I do think that man has contributed slightly to it, but is certainly not a causative factor – neither is CO2 – the world is greening because of it.
        
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        September 18, 2017 1:15pm
- VicParking
  
  I have invested in a banana plantation in central Otago. A climate scientist told me it was a sure thing.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:23am
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    lol – I hope there’s not a worldwide glut on the market 🙂
    
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    September 18, 2017 10:04am
  - publicwatchdog
    
    Great news!
    
    NZ can be a banana republic WITH the bananas 🙂
    
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    September 18, 2017 2:07pm
    - sooty
      
      Lurking here every day, are you Penny. It’s probably you that up votes Hugh every day!
      
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      September 18, 2017 4:58pm
- Piniwi
  
  You are observant and wiseowl. Many in that area converted to avocado from the hairy berry when it flopped. Hardest thing now is stopping raiders doing the picking.
  
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  September 18, 2017 7:31pm
DifferentPerspective

More TDS from the US fake news

Seriously New York Times, a kid gets a photo op with the President mowing the White House law – and all you can say is “Trump breaches child labour laws, causes H&S issue”.

The US MSM editorial stance “It’s all Trump, all the time, on every issue”.

We’re being lied to by the media, all the time on everything.
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September 18, 2017 8:14am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  On Fox, they suggested- “Future Navy Seal mows White House Lawns”. 🙂
  
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  September 18, 2017 1:17pm
oldpark

What on earth is going on,with our Mainstream Media and Grey power. National the only Political Party looking after our most vunerable the elderly pensioners,and superannuands.If National win on 23 09 2017 The Pensioners and Superannuands will get an extra $52.00 per couple fortnightly in their pension .
That financial fact is being deliberately and unreported and ignored by our biased anti National Media and Grey Power.
Interesting should there be a change of Government the joined at the hip Lie-bour/Green mafias will ensure, the pensioners and Superannuands will be the victims of a deliberate form of” ageism “and “elder abuse”. Their $52.00 per fortnight extra pension payment will not happen.
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September 18, 2017 8:15am
- ex-golfer
  
  I think you’ve got your figures wrong.
  Its $26 per fortnight for two people both receiving Super (ie: on the couples rate).
  That will also be supplemented by the normal increase that occurs on 1 April.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:54am
  - oldpark
    
    Think you have missed the latest announcement ,with my respects to your comment. Over the weekend that $26.00 was doubled. go well stay safe. “Two Ticks Blue”.Now $52.00 Per Fortnight.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:02am
    - ex-golfer
      
      From the policy announcement:
      Couple rate going up $680 per year = $26 per fortnight.
      This was not a new announcement over the weekend. It was simply re-emphasising the increase that will be accrued from the 2017 Budget Family Incomes package (which will be reversed by Labour).
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:11am
      - oldpark
        
        @Ex Golfer.
        Return to sender. Agree you get two ticks from me. I will just have to accept that half-a-loaf is better than no bread.Go well stay safe. “Two ticks Blue.”
        
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        September 18, 2017 10:51am
- kowtow
  
  Interesting. In Germany it would appear the “progressives” are unhappy at the power the elderly voter has , I suppose like here, because they can be , unlike younger voters, bothered to register and vote.
  
  And look at the suggestion to gerrymander the result , extend the franchise !
  
  ‘A solution could be to lower the voting age, allowing people under 18 and even young children to have a say “if they are ready,” Gruendinger said.’
  
  https://www.thelocal.de/20170916/as-germany-ages-grey-vote-has-younger-generations-worried
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:09am
- KevOB
  
  The blood of the deprived aged will haunt their dreams. Age does not diminish all abilities.
  
  The grandchildren will be turned against Labour too.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:09am
- oldpark
  
  We now know what “Commie Chic” Ardern means when she talks about my generation.Her philosphy seems to not too au fai with older people.These days it is called “Ageism” and “Elder abuse”. What an indictment.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:15am
- VicParking
  
  Grey Power in Whanganui is a branch of the Labour party.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:26am
Left Right and Centre

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96266010/kellie-edmonds-is-a-solo-mum-of-five-with-a-fulltime-job

Yes – life is really hard with five children on a low-medium income.
Good thing she got divorced five years back – could be six or seven kids by now.
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September 18, 2017 8:16am
- fluffykiwi
  
  Well she says she would consider voting for someone who will lessen her tax bill, stick with National lady, the tax cut is already legislated.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:25am
  - calendar girl
    
    She’s 38 and never voted before – that’s 5 elections in which she has taken insufficient interest to exercise her civic right. Now, if “someone … will lessen her tax bill”, she’ll consider voting for them.
    
    I don’t know how much tax she’s actually paying, or for that matter the monetary value of all the social welfare benefits that she is likely to be receiving. Fact like those don’t fit this election-inspired story. But if her main interest in casting a vote is personal taxation, then she can’t possibly vote for Arhern’s Labour.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:16am
    - kowtow
      
      What an utterly shit piece of journalism.
      
      No questions asked of her , just accepting and printing her nasty and stupid opinions .
      
      Never voted ? Why not ?
      
      Doing it hard to feed the kids ? Where’s the Dad.
      
      Daughter in sleep out with her own child , hasn’t she learned?
      
      And as fluffy points out why didn’t the hacks who wrote this crap check her facebook (they do for everything else these days , they consider that investigative) and ask her more about her overseas trip.
      
      The Lying Media .
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:26am
    - Paulus
      
      I doubt she pays any tax but is a tax recipient as she has a job.
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:29am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Her eldest daughter lives in a sleepout in the backyard with her own partner and child.
  
  There’s your family planning people . . .
  
  She works at a logistics company for $23 an hour on a temp contract without holiday pay or sick pay, so whenever she has an unexpected day off there’s less money for food
  
  Won’t someone think of the children ?
  Temp rates include holiday and sick pay – it’s built into hourly rate – duh. So – not as simple as saying there’s ‘less money for food’ if she misses a day.
  
  Kellie hasn’t voted before – er – are we surprised ?
  
  “I just feel sick that most of the time I can’t even buy them a $7 box of nutri-grains,” she says.
  
  Junk cereal – if you’re going to buy cereal – the basics are not only ok – they’re better.
  
  But she doesn’t think it’s fair for people to say the poor shouldn’t have children if they can’t afford them.
  
  Words fail me. What, *five* ?
  
  “I don’t agree with that,” she says. “There’s always a way.
  
  Yeah – like someone else’s taxes.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:27am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Check out her facebook page, the photos tells a slightly different story, or maybe the correct one. she has had a wonderful trip overseas it appears London and Italy were on the agenda, so maybe that is why the children are starving, still paying off the trip.
    In fact from the photos it appears she is travelling as we speak, Italy 2 days ago (I think).
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:30am
    - Prince
      
      Regular overseas trips are now a human right.
      And we can return to buy the house we want, in the suburb we want. Get the job we want. Work the hours we want. Have as many kids as we want.
      These are all basic human rights, to be granted by the Government.
      
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      September 18, 2017 8:35am
      - KevOB
        
        When will the socialists ever learn that they own the moon too. When the travel problems are fixed that means we can all expect rights to free trips there.
        
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        September 18, 2017 9:14am
    - Peter
      
      How very strange the reporter did not mention this rather important “Italy and UK holiday” fact.
      
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      September 18, 2017 8:44am
      - kowtow
        
        That would spoil the propaganda value of the piece.
        
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        September 18, 2017 9:42am
- BlueGriffon
  
  She is working though LRC! Her young daughter is about to repeat the cycle though, hope she is learning from her mothers experience. Kellie is one of the ones I don’t mind helping.
  Unlike this one, who when you drill down, just really wants a bigger house http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11922592
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:30am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Come off it mate – she’s in a flash looking rental crying breadline dirt poor – wtf ??
    See these pisstake sob stories every farking day in the bullshit nz msm.
    
    And saying the social welfare assistance isn’t enough. Nice kitchen Kellie – really slumming it there girl.
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:37am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    I hope you have had a wonderful overseas trip such as she is enjoying at present. These stories are rubbish. Unless she was paid for the story and that has funded the overseas trip.
    I wonder who is looking after the children while she is away.
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:38am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      There’s so much wrong with that story fluffy . . . I’ve just realised. It’s not ‘five kids’ anymore if one of them is now *a mother*. It’s now four kids and one ‘grown-up’ hanger-on in a sleep-out with the ‘father’.
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:07am
- Colville
  
  LRaC
  You think being divorced stops people fucking?
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:10am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Nah – but divorce, job and eight people on property might slow some folks down a bit.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:23am
- KevOB
  
  The article doesn’t mention WFF or accommodation supplement.
  
  Life is not and cannot be a bed of roses for everybody. It’s about coping and that includes taking up the benefit entitlements and learning about nutrition and need not marketing hyped cereals.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:23am
  - kowtow
    
    It does mention she dropped out of education early, but that was n’t her fault , it was the systems.
    
    Actions have consequences . If you want to get ahead , stay in school.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:31am
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NEW ZEALAND HOUSING: GENERATION RENT … THE NATIONAL – LED GOVERNMENTS POVERTY CREATION PROGRAMME …

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/09/nz-house-prices-rose-august-volumes-cratered/#comment-2955142 …

… With the General Election this Saturday 23 September … welcome to the National – led Governments poverty creation programme … screened last evening on Television One …

TV1 – SUNDAY – GENERATION RENT (VIDEO)

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/sunday/clips/generation-rent

Sunday – Generation Rent
Sunday 17 Sep

The Kiwi dream of home ownership is becoming just that – a dream. We now have the lowest rate of home ownership in nearly seventy years. And that’s because for decades now, house prices have increased much faster than most incomes… leaving a generation of renters… often in old, run-down accommodation. But, ahead of the 2017 election, can renters flex their political muscle and demand better conditions? … view via hyperlink above …
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… For some of the reasons I outlined a week or so ago … for example driving Auckland house prices from 6.4 times incomes in 2008 to a ‘stratospheric’ 10 times today …

Ardern v English: Leaders’ house price claims face credibility claims | Rob Stock | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/money/96556989/arden-v-english-house-price-claims-face-credibility-claims

… extract …

… VERDICT ON ENGLISH

English’s answer may provide comfort for homeowners enriched as a result of a failure to build enough homes to meet demand, but it offers none to a generation of people left renting from astronomically high house prices.

Hugh Pavletich, who describes himself as “somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan”, said: “There has already been a generation that’s been severely mistreated because of this housing issue, and what Mr English is saying is another generation should miss out. That is grossly irresponsible.”

Pavletich said prices must fall, gradually, until they are around three times median income.

English’s vision of prices staying level, but falling in real terms as wages rise, wouldn’t achieve that.

Auckland needed only look to Christchurch for its housing solution, Pavletich said. Spread out. Free up land supply. Let people build.

Pavletich does not believe National has the policies to keep prices flat as incomes rise.

“We will get to Sydney levels and beyond if we leave the current government in place,” said Pavletich.

When National came to office under John key the median house in Auckland cost 6.4 times median household income, he said. “It’s now a “stratospheric” ten times.”

“After nearly a decade of inaction from this government, we have really had enough.” … read more via hyperlink above …
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… Near some 13 years following the release of the 1st Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey early 2005 (access schedule http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org ) … the Great Inertia Sector of Local Government is starting to wake up by asking the right questions …

Waipa mayor: Affordable housing problem remains unless attitudes change | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/life-style/96484661/waipa-mayor-affordable-housing-problem-remains-unless-attitudes-change

… extract …

… “Doing the math, the base price for farmland sold originally for $600,000 to $70,000 a hectare, divide that with a low cluster development of 10 houses, take into account up-front costings of $100,000, I fail to understand why we still end up with sections on the market for $300,000.” … read more via hyperlink above …
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September 18, 2017 8:17am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Oh shit Hugh, and its so early in the morning.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:27am
- Notsofast
  
  The land between Oteha Valley and Silverdale can be requisitioned by the labour green government and very quickly built on with multi level development. It is currently gorse and wasteland adjacent to an underused motorway in proximity to vast industrial hubs. This housing crisis is solved with political will. The National government pretend they want it solved, but own 400 rentals between them.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:33am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
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    John Key on Housing Reform 2007 – YouTube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
    
    Housing through the decades, what is affordable? | Newshub
    
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2016/08/housing-through-the-decades-what-is-affordable.html
    
    … Check out the simple structural DEFINITION OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING MARKET at http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org … google search ‘New Homes … North American City of your choice’ … refer Demographia Survey for guidance.
    
    Ask too … why we currently have not got this pricing in New Zealand … Pulte Homes Phoenix Arizona example …
    
    https://pulte.com/homes/arizona/phoenix/florence/parkside-at-anthem-at-merrill-ranch-7739#CommunityDetailsView
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:50am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Gosh … You Tories are uncharacteristically energetic this morning … ‘hiding’ me within the hour.
      
      There is an easier to read copy over at MacroBusiness Australia for the Kiwi Tories with dim eyesight as well …
      
      https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/09/nz-house-prices-rose-august-volumes-cratered/#comment-2955142
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:28am
      - Notsofast
        
        Villagers with pitchforks Hugh. Watching facts fast downvoted is remniscent of the Christian hard right, which I suppose kiwibloggers mainly are.
        
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        September 18, 2017 9:38am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Notsofast … Bit like the old Mad Muldoon days … which unfortunately I lived through.
        
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        September 18, 2017 9:43am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Labour and Greens’ Nelson candidates breathing down Nick Smith’s neck – poll | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96928350/Labour-and-Greens-Nelson-candidates-breathing-down-Nick-Smiths-neck-poll
        
        A new poll is showing a tight race in Nelson – the seat National’s Nick Smith won by nearly 8000 votes at the least election.
        
        He’s held the seat comfortably since 1996, but new Greens polling suggests it’s nearly a three-way photo-finish with Labour candidate Rachel Boyack and Greens candidate Matt Lawrey a relatively close second and third.
        
        Smith held 29.3 per cent support; four points ahead of Boyack on 25 per cent, while Lawrey – a high-profile councillor in the region – was on 22.8 per cent. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        Via …
        
        Live Results – New Zealand General Elections 2017
        
        https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/NZ-election-home/
        
        Note too … GONE GONE GOING section http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org
        
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        September 18, 2017 11:06am
  - KevOB
    
    The land … can be requisitioned..
    
    Welcome to Zenezuela. Comrade Che Taxinda has arranged the asset strip at the border.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:30am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Kevin … back in the real world …
      
      Housing – New Zealand Labour Party
      
      http://www.labour.org.nz/housing
      
      … extract …
      
      … Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out
      
      Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds. … read more via hyperlink above …
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      Mid last year the Governments Housing Minister Dr Nick Smith had this to say …
      
      beehive.govt.nz – Nicl Smith – Labour support on city limits (abolition) welcomed
      
      https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/labour-support-city-limits-welcomed
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      NZ PM spins housing failure. Promises first home buyer bribe – Leith van Onselen – MacroBusiness
      
      https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/09/nz-pm-spins-housing-failure-promises-first-home-buyer-bribe/
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:39am
      - KevOB
        
        It’s the requisitioning I am concerned about. That’s theft.
        
        NZ housing problems will go into a bigger melting pot shortly if the GFC deepens and mortgages go under water.
        
        I wish all well with housing at present. I expect the incoming government to be overly extended with realistic economic management.
        
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        September 18, 2017 11:48am
      - Notsofast
        
        No way is it theft. It is standard practice whether a motorway or plutonium enrichment plant. No one expects the land owners to receive less than market value, but it would be superb if labour crashed the artificial market of venality and greed before the requisition.
        
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        September 18, 2017 12:25pm
  - Chris R
    
    You do realise that your charming Lab/Green proposal to build rapidly and “cheaply” will seed a ghetto rather than provide a solution to genuine housing requirements? The term “affordable housing” conjures up those terrible housing estates in London. Those estates are also the product of “political will.”
    
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    September 18, 2017 10:09am
    - KevOB
      
      It was called Porirua here.
      
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      September 18, 2017 11:49am
    - Notsofast
      
      What in hell are you talking about? The youth deserve to breed in places they own. That is the sine qua non of New Zealand culture.
      
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      September 18, 2017 12:26pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        For those interested in real market pricing, do check out the Pulte Homes Arizona link further up thread.
        
        I think this crowd puts about 17,000 new homes in place annually in the US.
        
        And too … google search “New homes … cities of your choice’ in North America … using the Annual Demographia Survey http://www.demographia.com as a guide.
        
        Building affordable housing today is a very formulaic business. That’s why I often describe it as a ‘nonsense issue.’
        
        There is just screeds of stuff at my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
        
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        September 18, 2017 12:42pm
Paulus

A lady we spoke to yesterday said she was going to vote for Jacinda because she was a young pretty woman.
We suggest to her that the Labour Party, which is for now just Jacinda, was still the same left wing screw you tax you party except it had a young communist ill educated young woman who had never had a real job outside the political trough.
She hadn’t realised this and would rethink her vote – probably back to Winston in his dottage though.
Suggestested she consider a good family quiet man with strong moral codes in Bill English.
Left her with different thoughts over Cindy though.
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September 18, 2017 8:21am
- wiseowl
  
  Paulus
  Using that logic the Greens should promote Hayley to leader.
  They would pull 20% of the vote .
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:30am
  - Lance
    
    Not far from the truth there
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:11am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Should’ve told her she’s voting for a PM, not a womens’ mag cover.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:46am
- Notsofast
  
  Except Bill’s strong moral code has ruled out replacing methamphetymine with safe outdoor grown marijuana. John Key’s strong moral code did the same. We have a lost generation and physically financially and emotionally wrecked families to thank them for.
  It is stunning the blindness of voters for these neanderthals. I hope Jacinda and the greens throw the drug manuals to the four winds and solve this.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:50am
  - Inandout
    
    Don’t take drugs and you won’t have to vote Jacinda.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:00am
    - Prince
      
      Don’t vote Ardern and you won’t have to take drugs.
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:24am
  - freemark
    
    Do you really think that Meth over-use happens because pot is illegal?
    I think you’re talking through a hole in your arse.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:06am
    - Notsofast
      
      I know it. I deal with Westies all day long.
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:12am
    - KevOB
      
      It would be fostered from pot use. Dealers use pot to hook addictives and go on from there. Free “tastes” are available.
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:33am
  - Kleva Kiwi
    
    They could, you know, just not use drugs.
    It was there own decision to use meth in the first place. Why should we legislate another drug to replace it without addressing the actual problem in the first place: taking drugs!
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:11am
    - VicParking
      
      If you do the line you will be f**ked all the time
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:32am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Notsofast.
    
    “We have a lost generation and physically financially and emotionally wrecked families to thank them for.”
    
    That’s one of the most insane comments I’ve seen.
    What you are saying is that this caused by Key and English not allowing them to have drugs like marijuana.
    Un-be-lieve-able
    
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    September 18, 2017 1:29pm
- kowtow
  
  Voters like that should not have the right/privelige to decide who gets to run my life .
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:20am
103PapPap

How come we don’t see anything in the press or on telly that Taxinda is going to go back to 1970’s industrial laws with enforced collective agreements and all that other stuff unions did back then.
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September 18, 2017 8:22am
- VicParking
  
  The EPMU wont let them
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:34am
- KevOB
  
  The NZCTU owns the Parliamentary Party Leadership through voting rights. Very Parliamentary.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:35am
wiseowl

Hugh
Immigration
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September 18, 2017 8:23am
Sam A

Here’s a question that I hope someone can help me with..

… and just for the sake of my question, let’s assume that everyone agrees that it’s ok for a party leader to go into an election with noone knowing whether or not they may need time off their parliamentary responsibilities so that they can give birth and care for a baby.

So my question is: what would be the similarity or difference between the above scenario and that of a party leader who might go into an election when it is reported that he or she intends to resign six months after the election, due to the very unfortunate presence of early onset dementia?
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September 18, 2017 8:29am
- wally
  
  Do you mean “early dementia” rather than “early onset dementia” (ie under 65 yrs) in this hypothethical case?
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:54am
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Think the massive flip flop by Lie-bour on the CGT tax scam and Inheritance tax(dead Granny Tax),has being deferred until further notice,think again.
Over the weekend the Lie-bours partner in slime the Green Party believing the latest poll has started to roar. An ultimatum to “Commie Chic” Ardern, Helen Clark, and Sullen Cullen.
If the CGT smogasboard ambush is not re-introduced there will be no deal for a coalition between the joined at the hip Liebour/Green mafias.
Rumour has it the mentioned tri facta of Liebour Party puppet masters told the Green Party to say that. As power and domination of NZ, is the game plan of “Commie Chic” Ardern ,Helen Clark,and Sullen Cullen.Stand by if they get elected.another flip flop with the CGT and the hated Inheritance Tax(Dead Granny Tax) . That being the cunning type of sneaky backdoor type of sleaze Lie-bour/Green are notorious for,including benefit fraudsterMaterialistic Turei.
The only common sense answer to all of that type of dirty politics is” Two Ticks Blue.”
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September 18, 2017 8:33am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️ ☑️
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:37am
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    Tulixpu
    
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    September 18, 2017 2:22pm
wiseowl

Sam A
Can’t be Hillary in the above scenario so is it ummmm Trump in the question?
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September 18, 2017 8:34am
- Sam A
  
  Sorry wiseowl, I was referring to New Zealand.
  
  But in this scenario, there would be an added complication if everyone in the beltway knew about it, but no one wanted to say it publicly because the said politician had threatened to sue anyone who mentioned it…?
  
  I mean, would you be able to share owl’s wisdom on such a conundrum?
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:43am
  - Dead Earnest
    
    You don’t mean someone who threatened to sue any one who discussed possible health issues yet refused to deny they existed?
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1709/S00191/peters-filthy-rumour-dirty-campaign.htm
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:51am
  - RF
    
    That beltway rumour is gaining traction because the subject is threatening anyone and everyone who dares mentions it.
    
    You don’t have to be a brain surgeon to work out who it is.
    
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    September 18, 2017 11:51am
KKKKatee

Go over to Whaleoil folks and take a look st the video where Jacindazilla is in full flight addressing a bunch of lunatics in her capacity as President of the IUSY. And the really scary thing is that she couldn’t really remember what year that was. And, also, her views haven’t changed since then. She is a Commie through and through back then and frighteningly now, living in a $1m house. What a bloody two-faced Commie she’s turned out be. And she had stated her views haven’t really changed since then. She is even more dangerous than Sue Bradford and Laila Harre put together and yet stupid people will vote for her. #communistjacinda
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September 18, 2017 8:36am
- Colville
  
  KKKKate
  With WO you have to wonder who paid him to put that article up.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:12am
  - VicParking
    
    Does not make it less true who put it up. Aim your attacks at the message not the messenger.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:37am
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    I’m suggesting no-one. He’s had it stored in the cloud for a very long time I believe. It deserves to be circulated and should have been done a wee bit earlier I think.
    
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    September 18, 2017 12:46pm
- KevOB
  
  The WO one has a little different content and the sound is very bad–everyone is talking.
  
  Comrade Che Taxinda:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSMYa-JOwKg&feature=youtu.be
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:45am
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    Apparently she made that speech when she was in her first in Parliament .
    
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    September 18, 2017 10:00am
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      Yes and while she still had studs in her nose. That’s always a sign of anti-establishment.
      
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      September 18, 2017 12:48pm
  - calendar girl
    
    Fifteen examples in that recording of the salutation “Comrades” being directed to her colleagues in the International Union of Socialist Youth.
    
    And plenty of early employment of that arrogant, stabbing, index finger as she relays her message.
    
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    September 18, 2017 1:52pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      Yeah. You gotta live that pointy finger if hers. (Waiting for a downtick from Sam Green?
      
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      September 18, 2017 3:24pm
- oldpark
  
  Even worse she was sucking at the NZ Taxpayer funded trough. She was meant to be in NZ Parliament at that time as a “List MP”. So why was “Commie Chic” Ardern from NZ, ranting on at at young communist protest in Europe.”Two Ticks Blue”.
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:18am
- sam green
  
  Oh Kkkkkhatey – what a sad and transparent life you lead – how’s the herpes?
  
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  September 18, 2017 11:22am
  - KKKKatee
    
    Why are you always stalking me you sad little man you? That’s if I can call you a real man….
    
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    September 18, 2017 12:49pm
  - starboard
    
    Not as bad as your whole families green sam…
    
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    September 18, 2017 1:06pm
    - Brito
      
      Hi Starboard…from an admirer!
      
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      September 18, 2017 3:47pm
      - starboard
        
        Filthy sodomiser..away with yee..
        
        Have you voted ‘liarbor ‘ yet Buritto..*chortle*
        
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        September 18, 2017 5:04pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Silly Sam’s got nothing else to do but busy himself and stalk me on KB. See you’ve been very busy downticking my posts. If that’s what gets your rocks off, then what a sad little person you are. So what’s the reference to herpes all about? Come on Sam, I’m curious. Paid by your beloved Comrade to troll and post nasty comments on her behalf are you?
    You’re making a lot of assumptions Sam and making a fucking idiot of yourself….
    
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    September 18, 2017 3:21pm
Happychappy

Hugh the big noter likes talking about himself,

Pavletich does not believe National has the policies to keep prices flat as incomes rise” . Well go vote Labour then you bitter twisted senile prick.
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September 18, 2017 8:38am
EAD_TWO

Irish Savant doesn’t hold back in his latest “Cry Me a Paddy Field article in laying into the MSM and the fake narrative they’re spinning of poor helpless innocent Rohingya “suffering” at the hands of the blood thirsty Buddhists (one of the most passive people in the world).

I don’t doubt that the Burmese are acting aggressively and there have probably a few acts committed that make sensationalist news headlines but nothing occurs in a vacuum……

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2017/09/cry-me-paddy-field.html

Myanmar (formerly Burma) is under severe attack from the “international community” (read NWO Globo-homos) for so-called genocide against the Rohingya Muslims. The United Nations calls them the “most persecuted minority group in the world”. Imagine that. Also amazing to see Muslims not getting on with their neighbours, isn’t it? All respectable opinion, every ‘international body’, all the mainstream media see this conflict as truly Manichean. There are the good guys (Muslims) and the bad guys (Buddhists) and nothing in between. And whenever you encounter such unanimity from such sources you know that a new mind-fuck is underway. And the Rohingya campaign is no exception.

Indeed – a couple of dead Muslims in Burma and it’s international headlines meanwhile 4,000 White farmers have been murdered by savages in South Africa. And what do we hear from the “international community”?

Crickets….
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September 18, 2017 8:43am
- MCos
  
  That post is good example of what Alexander Pope meant when he wrote “A little learning is a dangerous thing . . . . . “
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:46am
- Paulus
  
  Which country did those Muslims anarchists come from.
  Indonesia, Iraq and Saudi I understand with the intention, in the name of ISIS, of creating a Muslim State in Myanmar.
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:37am
- oldpark
  
  Not forgetting the Christian Yazidis in Iraq. Heard the clown called Sam Neil,pleading with NZ to open the floodgates for the terrorists from Burma., Maybe he can accomodate them all on his vineyard.
  What happened in August in Burma. The muslim terrorists attacked police and troops. Sounds like they under estimated the result. Now they want all the bleeding lefties around the world and suckers to come and bail them out.
  
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  September 18, 2017 11:03am
BlueGriffon

Now Cindy has cancelled the interview with Leighton tomorrow. She can’t cope with the workload or can’t handle the hard questions?
Check out WO for the full COMRADE video.

OMG we are in for trouble.

TWO TICKS BLUE
SHETAXU (with the help of the Greens)
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September 18, 2017 8:47am
- KKKKatee
  
  #communistjacinda
  Spread the hashtag
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:51am
- KKKKatee
  
  The cracks are appearing
  Spread the hashtag
  #communistjacinda
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:52am
  - Gabby
    
    #hongkingkattee
    
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    September 18, 2017 3:09pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      Wrong Gabby. I’ve already told you I’m not ? Kate, what don’t you understand about that you fucking idiot?
      
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      September 18, 2017 3:29pm
    - Brito
      
      Gaby I thought I said ‘outside and don’t come back until your dinners ready’.
      
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      September 18, 2017 3:47pm
- VicParking
  
  You just have to look at her when she is not front and centre to see she is under pressure.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:41am
  - MCos
    
    Few people here seem to be under pressure too
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:47am
  - RF
    
    I think you will find that she is being pulled back by her minders and told to stick to the script so no more Captains calls.
    
    They must be very worried about her being interviewed by Leighton as normally she grabs all the exposure she can get.
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    They will also be worried about the farmers protest today.
    
    As I recently reported they waited until she was on the West Coast before Grant pulled the plug on the CGT.
    
    She is now just a glove puppet so that recent photoshop of her and Grant the puppet master is so true….
    
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    September 18, 2017 10:22am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️ ☑️
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:48am
- sam green
  
  #herpeskkkkatee. Spread the hashtag.
  
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  September 18, 2017 11:25am
- Gabby
  
  TULIXPU
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:32pm
  - Brito
    
    Gaby, the adults are talking. Away you go now!!!
    
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    September 18, 2017 3:49pm
- Piniwi
  
  True blue. Perhaps they have the newest poll results to confirm their internal slump is bang on. Meltdown on it’s way.
  
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  September 18, 2017 7:56pm
Maxx

Climate change report from The Global Warming Policy Foundation.

It shows how interactions between ocean cycles have been shown to drive changes in the global climate on timescales of several decades

The conclusion is that while humans may play a small part in climate change, the oceans and other weather systemsplay a far larger part. Well who would’ve thought….

https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2017/09/Tsonis-17.pdf
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September 18, 2017 8:54am
- MCos
  
  The guy who wrote that report, Anastasios Tsonis, is a well know climate change denier so for him to come up with that conclusion is only to be expected.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:17am
  - All_on_Red
    
    What’s a ‘Climate Change Denier’? What does that even mean?
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:33am
    - VicParking
      
      Its the opposite of a Climate change advocate.
      The difference is the advocate FAKES news the Denier quotes FACTS.
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:43am
  - rangitoto
    
    Looking at his report he is not denying climate change at all.
    
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    September 18, 2017 10:53am
oldpark

Checkout the “Commie Chic” Ardern latest video on WO blogsite.. Just what could happen to our lifestyle should her band of Lie-bour/Green mafias win next Saturday. We should be afraid ,very ,very afraid. The video are all her own words,none of it comes into the well worn excuse from Lie-bour/Green sycophants that it is a fear tactic. Yes we should be afraid very afraid. “Two Ticks Blue”.
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September 18, 2017 8:56am
- Longknives
  
  Why is she dressed like a Porn-Star? Anyone??
  
  *And have to laugh at her banging on to her ‘Comrades’ about ‘Privilege’ and ‘Wealth’..
  Isn’t this the chick who has never had a real job in her life? Yet who has been sucking up hundreds of thousands in taxpayer cash as a List MP for donkey’s years?
  Not to mention her million dollar property…
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:19am
  - VicParking
    
    Dont speak about Comrade denture like that
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:45am
  - KevOB
    
    Some animals are more equal than others. Strange how the Soviets Union fell apart. The top of the tree always has the best fruit.
    
    Now that the NZCTU own the Parliamentary Labour Party Leadership* watch them fatten up. Back to the 1950’s.
    
    *Voting rights control–that’s how Little got the leadership job previously.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:50am
  - KKKKatee
    
    And that’s only just one of them…
    
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    September 18, 2017 4:54pm
- GoVege
  
  The Russians are coming!
  The Russians are coming!!
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:08am
  - Lucia Maria
    
    The Russians are coming!
    The Russians are coming!!
    
    Ironic that you say that today, GoVege.
    
    Poland’s marks 78th anniversary of Soviet invasion
    
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    September 18, 2017 12:24pm
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      We’re a few miles from Poland I think, Lucia….
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:34pm
skyblue

See Taxinda has pulled out on being on Leighton’s show on ZB tomorrow. Has been booked for ages. He has said she whimped out as a mistake will cost at the ballot box.
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September 18, 2017 9:01am
Manolo

Europe is the target of more Islamic love:
https://www.rt.com/news/403599-french-police-railway-jihadists/

French police have issued a confidential note based on an analysis of “jihadist propaganda,” warning of possible lone-wolf attacks causing trains to derail and even food poisoning, Le Parisien newspaper reports, citing the document.
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September 18, 2017 9:02am
- kowtow
  
  Europe , a target of Islamic love for 1300 years.
  
  Why do the current set of rulers in Europe think it’s any different today?
  
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  September 18, 2017 11:25am
MCos

“Criticising this Bok team is like clubbing a baby seal.” Nick Mallett

Oh dear.
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September 18, 2017 9:03am
Keeping Stock

Check out this video from David Clark; a Canterbury arable farmer (and not the Labour MP from Dunedin). He absolutely demolishes Ms Ardern’s claim that National is lying and scaremongering over taxes on farmers.

In addition, he and his family have invested heavily in irrigation technology that actually reduces water wastage and nitrate run-off, yet is is still going to face a tax bill of almost $50k per annum.

https://www.facebook.com/david.clark.56232/videos/10155894914984448/

Is it any wonder that Ms Ardern’s handlers won’t let any farmers get within questioning distance of her, such as at Coe’s Ford last week?
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September 18, 2017 9:04am
- Gabby
  
  He must be using shitloads of water.
  
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  September 18, 2017 6:20pm
GazzaW

Why has Jacinda pulled the plug on a one hour interview with Leighton Smith tomorrow? Do her minders think that Leighton is too much of a challenge? Doesn’t bode well for a ‘possible’ PM.
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September 18, 2017 9:10am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Leighton might not have accepted every answer she gave at face value. He’s an ever-so-slightly tougher interviewer than Corin Dann or John Campbell.
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:59am
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    She’s not giving the lying media fake newsmongers the chance to lie their lying lies smuggy.
    
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    September 18, 2017 6:19pm
- oldpark
  
  “Commie Chic” Ardern running scared from hard please explain questions.
  
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  September 18, 2017 11:13am
  - publicwatchdog
    
    Where’s Bill English?
    
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    September 18, 2017 2:14pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Talking of people who never answer questions, it’s our resident rate dodger and very public pain in the arse Penny. Shouldn’t you be out increasing your vote, meeting with people, and illegally taking donations?
      
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      September 18, 2017 4:23pm
    - stigie
      
      Running the country Penny !~
      
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      September 18, 2017 4:48pm
      - sooty
        
        Where as you can not even run water!
        
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        September 18, 2017 6:03pm
- Gabby
  
  She had to nip off and slaughter some cows guzzla.
  
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  September 18, 2017 6:21pm
Longknives

Anyone else bloody sick of Adern banging on about how ‘Young’ she supposedly is??
Saw her talking to some University Students the other day – “They don’t care about us” “Our Generation” blah blah
Then in Stuff today she makes some weird comment about “Because I’m so Young…”

A quick Google sees that she is actually only a couple of years younger than I am.
I consider idealistic young University Students with no life experience to be on a different freaking planet from me (I’m not having a go at Students as such- I spent four years at Otago)
But I don’t consider them ‘My Generation’ at all.

But hey- I’m not a cool ‘DJ’- Type who listens to Fat Freddys Drop and Homebrew…
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September 18, 2017 9:11am
- cmm
  
  Quite. While she’s not young of age, she’s certainly young of mileage.
  
  Most 20-somethings would have achieved more than she has.
  
  I am now of the age where I consider 37 young, but I did a little rewind on my life and looked at what my wife and I had achieved by 37 compared to what she has achieved.
  
  Heck, we’d probably chalked up as much experience as her by the age of 25.
  
  I’m sure the same would go for just about every professional person out there.
  
  No bloody comparison at all.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:22am
  - KevOB
    
    I was married with 2 children when I reached 21; a Public Servant and had commencing professional studies part time.
    
    There is life outside socialism and fish and chip shops.
    
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    September 18, 2017 10:00am
    - sam green
      
      ??? public servant!
      
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      September 18, 2017 11:46am
      - KevOB
        
        Public service for me was a great experience. By 28 I was overseas as a contractor.
        
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        September 18, 2017 11:56am
      - KKKKatee
        
        So what’s your claim to fame then Sam? You were skiting on here the other day about your successful wife , but don’t be shy in telling the readers what YOU do for a living and how successful you are. Not interested in what your wife does. Want to hear from the great man himself. Take a bow Sam…
        P.S. Here’s hoping you don’t slit your wrists on Saturday if Comrade Arden gets the boot.
        
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        September 18, 2017 4:48pm
      - sam green
        
        Kev and kkunty up a tree ….
        
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        September 18, 2017 9:07pm
- MCos
  
  “Anyone else bloody sick of Adern banging on about how ‘Young’ she supposedly is??”
  That makes a change.
  Usually it’s Nat supporters banging on about how ‘Young’ she supposedly is!!
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:22am
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    No, just inexperienced.
    
    Look what most 37 year olds have accomplished:
    
    If she was a farmer she would have fed millions of people.
    
    If she was a man in wartime she’d have been old enough to be a company commander making life and death decisions over hundreds of people.
    
    If she was a business owner she’d be old enough to create a successful business employing tens of people.
    
    If she was an engineer she would be old enough to have designed 10 bridges or a car or two or some electronics or software (I had 5 patents by that age).
    
    If she was a doctor she’d have cured thousands of people or done a few hundred operations.
    
    If she was a truck driver she would have driven two million km delivering thousands of tonnes of goods.
    
    If she was a plumber, she’d have fixed thousands of leaking taps, unblocked drains etc etc.
    
    But no, she’s said “comrade” many times, helped staple documents together and fried a few chips.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:35am
    - Maxx
      
      Heck, most of her supporters would be grandparents by the time they’re 37
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:28am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      The face that launched a thousand chips…
      
      (If I remember the English phrase correctly.)
      
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      September 18, 2017 1:27pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Excellent Odakyu. 😆
        
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        September 18, 2017 1:45pm
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        Zing !!!!!!
        
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        September 19, 2017 4:31am
- GazzaW
  
  My dear old grandmother would have described her as mutton dressed up as lamb. Dotcom tried cuddling up to the young and the hip. That worked well.
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:18am
  - GoVege
    
    I’m sure Jacinda has never eaten mutton in her life.
    That’s why she looks so young.
    
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    September 18, 2017 11:20am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Heh, she ate dead rat the other day when she flip flopped on CGT
      
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      September 18, 2017 12:36pm
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        Zing !!!!!!!
        
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        September 19, 2017 4:31am
- Evadne
  
  Yes, it’s telling that at 37 she feels more affinity with uni students than her own peers.
  
  It suggests that, despite her chronological age, she’s not matured much from her student days.
  
  To be fair, I’m within 5 years of her, and think of her as an idealistic, naive young thing as well.
  
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  September 18, 2017 5:07pm
  - Evadne
    
    Also worth noting that she’s just as close in age to Bill English as she is to the students she claims are her generation.
    
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    September 18, 2017 5:13pm
cmm

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/96910111/jacinda-ardern-channels-that-bloody-woman-kate-sheppard

Jacinda’s just like Kate Sheppard.

So if you’re a female you’re letting the side down if you don’t vote for her.

Please: if there had been twitter at the time, do you think Kate would have needed her boyfriend to go in to bat for her?
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September 18, 2017 9:25am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Jacinda’s just like Kate Sheppard.
  
  Trying to ban the sale of alcohol doesn’t sound like a vote winner to me.
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:02am
- marcw
  
  No, Kate’s husband was at home wondering who was getting his dinner each night. She was swanning around chaining herself to railings. We gave in and gave women the vote – what could go wrong?
  
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  September 18, 2017 12:56pm
dime

lmao @ jacinda trying to convince people shes a bogan.

youre not a bogan. youre part of the disgustinjg socialist elite. you cried when you couldnt buy your first home in westmere for fucks sake.

you show up at and do “dj” shit when people are hammered and will cheer anything.

you are actually a sad, childless, middle aged woman.
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September 18, 2017 9:31am
- Huevon
  
  Bogans don’t soak almonds to make milk.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:45am
  - dime
    
    lmao
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:51am
  - cmm
    
    Nope. Real bogans put Woody on their weetbix.
    
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    September 18, 2017 10:17am
- fluffykiwi
  
  Her correct title is “would be elderly primigravida.”
  She wants babies and she is older than 34.
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:54am
- GoVege
  
  Saw her on the box last night.
  She didn’t look the faintest bit “middle-aged” to me.
  In fact she is incredibly youthful looking.
  Must be that healthy eating and working for a good cause… 🙂
  
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  September 18, 2017 11:15am
  - Happychappy
    
    Fuck you obviously never noticed the forehead wrinkles, she is going to have to have botox after the election to tidy up as the pressure has taken it’s toll.
    
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    September 18, 2017 1:34pm
  - cmm
    
    Communism is a good cause?
    
    GoVege: at least you have vegetables to eat.
    
    Post revolution Russia and China often didn’t have that choice. Some of them had the choice between cannibalism and starvation. Some of them didn’t even have that choice. And many Norks are so malnourished that they are a few inches shorter than the Southerners.
    
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    September 18, 2017 4:11pm
    - GoVege
      
      Cmm: I think you are confusing socialism (as practised in many European countries) with communism.
      There is a HUGE difference.
      
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      September 18, 2017 6:05pm
- GoVege
  
  You sound very grumpy this morning, dime.
  Did you invest too much in the powerball?
  
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  September 18, 2017 11:18am
  - dime
    
    not a cracker 🙂
    
    dime is happy as. i just enjoy laying in to chompers!
    
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    September 18, 2017 12:25pm
    - Gabby
      
      dim’s gettin pips under his plate
      
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      September 18, 2017 3:00pm
      - Brito
        
        Gaby!!!! What did I say???
        
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        September 18, 2017 3:51pm
      - Gabby
        
        You forgotten already Brillo?
        
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        September 18, 2017 6:47pm
MT_Tinman

A passenger the other day advised me that cows were sacred in his country.

I pointed out that they were held in pretty high esteem at my local supermarket too.
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September 18, 2017 9:40am
- kowtow
  
  Serious business.
  
  ‘Of the 28 Indians who died over the seven-year period, 24 were Muslim, or 86%. As many as 124 people were also injured in these attacks. More than half (52%) of these attacks were based on rumours, our analysis found.’
  
  http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/86-killed-in-cow-related-violence-since-2010-are-muslims-97-attacks-after-modi-govt-came-to-power/story-w9CYOksvgk9joGSSaXgpLO.html
  
  I’d like to think that as we are a “multicultural” country as so many of our rulers tell us, that in order not to give offence to our Hindoo citizens we should all give up cow meat . And out of respect to our Muslim residents we should stop keeping dogs and eating pork products.
  
  Truly , if we’re “multicultural” , that’s what we must do.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:48am
  - GoVege
    
    Sounds like a good idea, kowtow.
    Except let the doggies be.
    
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    September 18, 2017 11:23am
RF

I was in the lions den yesterday. Lunch with some Friends who vote Labour. I had taken the precaution of emailing them the video of the commie comrade prior to going there. That set the tone.

Basically the group did not really worry about our future apart from some polluted rivers and too many dairy farms.

They just believe that it’s their turn to be the Govt. They were banging on about John Key as if he was still the PM. One thing they agreed was that Comrade Bimbo will be short term if she gets in as she definitely wants to start a family.

Everyone agreed the Govt coffers were healthy and that was good for what they wanted to spend it on.

The greens were a problem as they were considered to be fruit loops and not the ideal coalition partner.

Recently I was with some National voting friends and the contrast with the group yesterday was obvious. My labour mates just wanted to spend up and have a good time. They did not see the need to have an army etc as we are out of a war zone down here.

National friends were concerned about the future, immigration etc and wanted to strengthen the armed forces.

Reminds me of squirels storing their food for winter whilst others eat it all and starve.
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September 18, 2017 9:43am
- tom hunter
  
  Everyone agreed the Govt coffers were healthy and that was good for what they wanted to spend it on.
  
  That’s the reason I’ve changed my opinion on having a future “sensible” National government that wants to inch us back into surplus so that debt can be paid down and/or tax cuts given.
  
  It just doesn’t work if the Opposition don’t agree with that philosophy, and simply view such surpluses as pissathon money. In that case, what’s the point in building them up?
  
  All we’re ever going to get from here on will be either a Cullen-type left-wing NZ where huge surpluses simply sit there because even they can’t stuff more into health, education and welfare (and the money certainly won’t be handed back to the taxpayer because they’ll just fritter it away) – or this type of unthinking Leftism where it all just gets spent on whatever takes their fancy, irrespective of whether it really does any good.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:55am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Speaking with an older lady who say’s she’s always voted blue but is going red this time because ‘we need a change’.
  Forgot to ask her what she wants to change and whether she would be voting this way if Angry was still in charge.
  There’s a lot of shallowness out there.
  
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  September 18, 2017 1:46pm
  - Gabby
    
    Forgetting things a bit these days Cap’n?
    
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    September 18, 2017 2:56pm
  - GoVege
    
    Don’t you remember Key”s first slogan was “time for a change”?
    (And he was nearly as pretty as Jacinda too…:) )
    
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    September 18, 2017 4:06pm
- Gabby
  
  You didn’t break anyone’s fingers did you rf rf.
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:58pm
  - RF
    
    Gabby … Gabby
    
    If you have time to post your shit here for christs sake find time to write to mother. I am sick and tired of making excuses for you.
    
    She has forgiven you for screwing her prize Chiwawa puppy. She realises that you were drunk at the time.
    
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    September 18, 2017 8:23pm
Victor Omega

You’ve heard of elf on the shelf…. now get ready for theft on the left.
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September 18, 2017 9:53am
- Victor Omega
  
  You’ve heard of elf on the shelf… now get ready for Capt Jac’s tax to the max.
  
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  September 18, 2017 1:13pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    #jactaxmaxletsdothis
    
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    September 18, 2017 7:24pm
Dafixeruppa

Can anyone tell me the leaning of NZME?
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September 18, 2017 9:57am
- MrTips
  
  They don’t lean. They lie back flat and think of Labour.
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:35am
  - Dafixeruppa
    
    Ah thanks, I wondered.
    I was reading an article that came from their website about teachers affinity (or lack of) with National Standards. Foolishly I thought it was going to be a balanced piece based on where I linked to it from… Yes foolishly, almost exclusively it was teachers moaning about how bad National Standards is for the poor little darlings… Of course they shot themselves in the foot when they went on to mention that many of the kids are below the line in National Standards and that forces the teachers to focus on reading writing and maths…
    Without National Standards these kids would not be identified until they reached NCEA when it is too late to give them the support to achieve.
    
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    September 18, 2017 12:57pm
Ross12

Am I right in saying in public polls in the past we used to get a figure for “undecideds” ? I’m sure I’m right so the question now is what do they do now ?
What ever they do it is deception.
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September 18, 2017 10:05am
Kabull

Looks like CGT will be a done deal this term, despite what she claims … I didn’t see it myself, but I hear reports this morning about what happened after JA finished her interview on Q&A yesterday. Apparently as she passed James Shaw, when he was coming onto the platform, they exchanged High-Fives. That suggests there is some collusion between them. What’s the bet she ‘pulled the plug’ on the CGT only after she got Shaw to make it a ‘bottom line’ in his coalition demands. In that way, Labour cannot be criticised for going back on the ‘Captain’s Call’….
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September 18, 2017 10:18am
- Gabby
  
  Sounds like kabullshit to me.
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:54pm
MrTips

Cindy’s made another glaring Captains Call.
Reckons National should’ve fixed a privately owned fuel line that has never had an issue in 30 yrs. So as to stop a random moron with a digger from poking a hole in it.

What would she do? Make a soaked almond compress and shout “Comrade, heal thyself?”

#GodHelpUsALLIfThatLOtGetsIN
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September 18, 2017 10:37am
- fluffykiwi
  
  So why didn’t labour during their 9 years. Helen and Cullen obviously got that wrong, why is she taking advice from them .
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:56am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    So it’s National’s fault that an idiot with a digger broke the pipeline.
    Was it also National’s fault that there wasn’t a spare road for when the Kaikoura earthquake happened?
    
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    September 18, 2017 11:36am
- rangitoto
  
  I learned something new this morning. The pipeline delivers various fuels in sequence separated by “water pigs” . Does the SPCA know about this?
  
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  September 18, 2017 11:33am
wiseowl

Bill clarified something this morning that explains a major concern with FTA s.
He said the reason we allow our country to be sold off is because we are small we don’t have a lot to trade with.
Well I find that most disturbing.
Our land is our most precious resource and our country is precious as a country , full stop.
To allow big countries to buy our land and houses puts our own people at a considerable disadvantage.Billions of people against a wee population.
This is nothing but a recipe to sell out our country to the highest bidder.The results can be seen with what is happening right now.
Sorry but free trade agreements should rule out our property as part of negotiations.
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September 18, 2017 10:39am
- Jack5
  
  Wiseowl, especially when China, the source of most land buying, does not allow foreigners – or anyone – to buy land in China. It’s totally State owned.
  
  Try buying into the industry China regards as its economic core – steel making. China hangs on to that.
  
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  September 18, 2017 11:10am
Jack5

Australia’s coal exports are bubbling at $US85 a ton. The trade is so busy that Australia’s own coal-powered electricity plants are being squeezed to get enough rail transport to bring in their fuel. It makes you wonder whether NZ was over-hasty in flogging off Solid Energy’s assets.

Australia still needs to diversify exports from the “resource curse”, also known as the “paradox of plenty” or the “Dutch disease”. (New Zealand suffers from a similar one with milk products). In the meantime, though, Australia’s solidly on the right side in international trade.

Solid Energy did make some spectacular mistakes, such as its dream of turning farmlands of Southland into opencast pits of lignite for a huge synthetic diesel industry. However, Solid Energy’s coal exports from the West Coast provided useful foreign exchange to NZ in its decades of balance of payments deficits. Solid Energy’s pioneer defragging work to extract coal-seam gas at Huntly could also have been a real benefit to NZ.

Makes you wonder also about the politicians and the analyst mob who led to Solid Energy assets being sold off dirt cheap. There were so many pompous commentators with zero knowledge of mining, so much “told-you-so” smugness from the Greens and the Blue-Greens, and so much political point making – “this is what happens with State enterprise”.

In the meantime, the overly quick retreat from coal has left the South Island West Coast’s economy roughed up as badly as that of West Virginia, where Trump drew attention to the plight of mining communities.

Coal exports tie up Australian transport:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/energy/coal-export-priority-left-nsw-power-plants-with-weeks-of-supplies-20170915-gyi17l.html

Australian exports surge with iron ore and coal:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/boom-iron-and-coal-exports-bring-first-trade-surplus-in-six-years/news-story/7675fa9065c87fb14dbde807c4443c4e
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September 18, 2017 10:42am
Jack5

Looks like the terrorists in the London tube incident are Syrian refugees.

And still there is no outcry about Muslim refugees into NZ.

Meanwhile, Rachel (“NZ women are lardo’s) Smalley, how about a public recantation of your early, airheaded campaign for NZ to open its doors to Middle East refugees?

Remember the trip to Europe, Rachel, the emotional garbage, the PR work on John Key that led to him backtracking on his initial staunch stand on refugees?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4893510/Syrian-Heathrow-home-raided-Parsons-Green.html
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September 18, 2017 11:44am
- RalphT
  
  Expect a leftie to apologise for their mistakes? You’ve got to be dreaming; they’re never, ever wrong.
  
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  September 18, 2017 12:00pm
fluffykiwi

Is Jacinda going to give the farmers in Morrinsville the time of day, or ignore them?
She has cancelled a slot with Leighton today. Is she running for cover back to schools where they understand her. Those final year students have a vote and teachers are such leftie people she will find a captive audience there.
Don’t talk to real people who actually play a most important part in the life of all New Zealanders from the milk they put on their cereal in the morning to the meat on the table for dinner.
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September 18, 2017 11:44am
- Longknives
  
  Latest updates Fluffykiwi have The People’s Princess currently speaking to Point Chevalier PreSchoolers – Where she is promising them free lollies and Unicorns to ride and telling them she understands their wants because she is from their ‘Generation’…
  
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  September 18, 2017 1:05pm
  - itstricky
    
    What did Bill offer the kids at Vanguard?
    
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    September 18, 2017 3:44pm
    - MrTips
      
      Genuine hope and they wrote tons of letters to say thank you.
      
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      September 18, 2017 7:00pm
- Gabby
  
  She’ll be empathising with Sir Ponyboy over his Waitangi Day Runner ass ferssure fluffy.
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:50pm
- GoVege
  
  Yukkk!!
  Make that almond milk in the morning and vegeburgers at night!
  
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  September 18, 2017 3:54pm
- Gabby
  
  I think she’s steering clear of that nat rentamob fluffer. Did Uncle Jian bring out his bluedragoons?
  
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  September 18, 2017 6:13pm
MCos

However much Energy Minister Collins may want to spin it the disruption to the fuel pipeline is a disaster for international travel.
A report in 2012 warned that this was on the cards, but it’s slipped her memory.
With luck regular petrol supplies will not be disrupted this week & who cares after that, although soaring prices may be uncomfortable.
Apparently it’s not realistic to construct a backup fuel line. It’s far too expensive, but I’m not sure why there isn’t adequate storage to cope with a fortnight’s disruption.
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September 18, 2017 11:54am
- tas
  
  The Auckland airport fuel shortage is not a “disaster”. Last I checked, no one has died. In fact, most flights are still operating. Having your 12-hour flight become a 14-hour flight because of an added fuel stop sucks, but it’s hardly the end of the world.
  
  Shit happens and this really has nothing to do with the government.
  
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  September 18, 2017 12:56pm
  - MCos
    
    You’re right, of course, ‘disaster’ is a bit melodramatic.
    In future I’ll be more careful with my choice of words in keeping with the restrained nature of the comments on this forum.
    
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    September 18, 2017 3:58pm
Manolo

Multiculturalism is working, isn’t it?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pictured-second-man-arrested-over-11192286

The second man arrested in connection with the Parsons Green Tube attack is a party-loving Syrian refugee who worked as a nightclub promoter.

Yahyah Farroukh, a 21-year-old refugee and former foster child, is registered as living at the address in Stanwell where police today conducted a search.
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September 18, 2017 11:55am
- Longknives
  
  Coming to New Zealand real soon when we get our Labour/Green Coalition from Hell..
  (Haven’t they promised us 5,000 more Syrian Refugees? No Questions Asked?)
  
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  September 18, 2017 1:14pm
Jack5

Will these drug-dealing scum be deported at the end of their sentences, or will the ultra-liberal deportation-appeal system let them stay in NZ?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/96941788/six-men-sentenced-over-death-of-jindarat-prutsiriporn-who-died-after-falling-from-car-boot
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September 18, 2017 1:22pm
- kowtow
  
  The story does not mention whether these scum had previous convictions. That ties in exactly with what Garth McV said over on his guest post.
  
  It would appear though that the “victim” was also a drug pusher , that being the case , I feel no sympathy for her. All scum , happy to destroy other people’s lives for their own enrichment.
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:00pm
Manolo

Nobody would’ve believed this headline:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/15/left-warns-pelosi-schumer-on-trump-242780

For some liberal activists and lawmakers, the burgeoning partnership between President Donald Trump and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi amounts to dancing with the devil.
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September 18, 2017 1:41pm
Manolo

They say no to comrade Miss Ardern taxes:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11923532

Hundreds of farmers have gathered in Ardern’s hometown of Morrinsville to protest against Labour and Greens’ proposed water and pollution charges.
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September 18, 2017 1:52pm
- Gabby
  
  They’ll be showing solidarity with the three farms with consents. Powa tewda Peepool!
  
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  September 18, 2017 6:41pm
Piniwi

Oh Dear. We heard Taxinda having her “nuclear moment” claiming it climate change and her intention to talk out of existence with the help of mega taxpayer dollars . Suspect they will be accusing the National party of “dirty politics” when they read this latest news.

One News Reports
New Zealand will become one of the first countries to sign a Global Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons in New York this week.

No semantics or fogging the truth. When National say nuclear they mean nuclear. They say tax cuts they mean tax cuts. They say “we don’t need more new taxes” that is clear, concise and obvious to most who actually pay taxes. They say reduce child poverty by 50,000 they mean 50,000 children and not some pretty words

Taxinda will tax us big time then flip flop will be sometime. Sadly the poor little girl says so much without saying anything of substance but she has nice hair. Wonder if she uses Wella?
Well are we don’t care but we do know she is as shallow as a car park puddle in summer and can talk the handle of a pot thanks to the dedication of her Media party promoters.
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September 18, 2017 1:59pm
- Paulus
  
  Is she going to cancel all the hospital and medical centres who use Nuclear Energy in their machines ?
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:18pm
  - sooty
    
    What about all of the nuclear welding inspection in every part of the country. No inspection, no code of compliance, no insurance, no food, no petrol, no planes, ships and trucks. Country shuts. O’dear.
    
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    September 18, 2017 5:55pm
- rangitoto
  
  “New Zealand will become one of the first countries to sign a Global Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons in New York this week.”
  
  That’s dumb. We should be developing our own nukes. We will need Kiwibomb plus a good ICBM delivery system.
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:49pm
fluffykiwi

More of Winnie’s smoke and mirrors conspiracy, secrets, things only he knows but will tell all he stated at Morrinsville –
“National’s just as bad. I’m telling you guys… You’ve got a National Party here who’s shutting up about deals with Māori in this country.”

Mr Peters said evidence of these “secret deals” is in the mail en route to media.”
What is wrong with an email, it is far quicker than the mail which is probably only picked up a couple of times a week from the postbox, and can of course be interfered with which he will claim if it never arrives.
Seriously, The man is a joke.
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September 18, 2017 2:08pm
publicwatchdog

‪When are NZ mainstream media going to ‘lift the lid’ on this effectively CENSORED story?

NZ WHISTLE-BLOWER ALERT!

National have NOT delivered on housing in Tamaki, Auckland!

Under PM Bill English and Minister of Finance Steven Joyce, IMO – they’ve made the Auckland ‘housing crisis’ and homelessness WORSE!

When is the effective mainstream media CENSORSHIP of the $1.6 billion Tamaki ‘Regeneration’ – GENTRIFICATION scam going to be lifted?

The Tamaki ‘Transformation’ Project was supposed to be a ‘pilot’ project for urban redevelopment.

What a JOKE!

What a DISASTER!

In five years since 2012 – the FACTS are that in Tamaki, more houses have been removed than new houses have been built.

237 Tamaki State houses have gone.
(Relocated or demolished).

213 new houses built.

92 ‘social’ houses.

39 ‘affordable’ houses (new home buyers)

82 (high end) private houses.

(Information from an OIA reply from Tamaki Regeneration Ltd, 21 August 2017).

‪This Tamaki GENTRIFICATION SCAM was /is on Bill English, Steven Joyce & Nick Smith’s watch, as Crown Shareholding Ministers in Tamaki Regeneration Ltd, and Tamaki Redevelopment Company Ltd.

Why won’t this 100% Crown-owned Tamaki Regeneration Ltd, reveal exactly how much private property developers have paid for each and every former Housing NZ property?

How DODGY is THAT?

Here are the FACTS!

‪https://www.facebook.com/penny.bright.104/posts/1796625243683493‬

(5 mins)

While mainstream media (to date) have effectively ignored / censored this HUGE election issue, this ‘Tamaki SCAM’ video has had 100,000 ‘views’ in 4 days….

Penny Bright

‘Anti-privatisation / anti-corruption whistle-blower’.

2017 Independent candidate for Tamaki.

Exposing the $1.6 billion Tamaki ‘Regeneration’ – GENTRIFICATION SCAM.

#StopTheTamakiScam
#StopNikisEviction
#SaveOurStateHouseHomes
#AskWhy
#StopCorruption
#ChangeTheGovernment

Authorised by Penny Bright, 86A School Rd, Kingsland Auckland 1021.
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September 18, 2017 2:20pm
- RalphT
  
  Leaving our campaigning a bit late aren’t we?
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:37pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
    🙂
    
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    September 18, 2017 3:39pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Public money used for private gain?
  
  Anything like your rates subsidy and capital gains??
  
  why did I call it a subsidy not a protest? because ACC obviously doesnt have the balls to follow through, no-one should be paying rates using you as the example….
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:47pm
- Brigitte
  
  A few you’ve missed:
  
  #PayYourRates
  #NoPayNoRepresentation
  #DontInterfereWithWaterPipes
  
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  September 18, 2017 2:49pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See?
  I Spray and Walk Away
  Rubbish Stays
  I Walk Away
  
  Steve (NS) Homer, then Seldovia, Alaska
  
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  September 18, 2017 4:48pm
rightoverlabour

How the hell is the pipeline fiasco National’s Fault? Why didn’t Hellen fix it?, Or Bolger, or anyone else before that? Desperate stuff Labour….
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September 18, 2017 2:26pm
- itstricky
  
  At a guess, because there was a specific report in 2012.
  
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  September 18, 2017 3:38pm
  - VicParking
    
    I ran over my hose the other day and it split. Is that also Nationals fault. No because its privatly owned.
    Labour will no doubt want to nationalise the pipeline because a government department would say they can fix it within a day. But not before there is a royal commission who will appoint a board of enquiry, who will hire investigators. Winston and David will be the first to look into the broken pipe and Massy university will build a pipe robot. Three years latter the pipe will still not be fixed. Cost $11 million.
    
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    September 18, 2017 4:12pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      I think Massey has pipe robots – most crawl up Liarbours arse
      
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      September 18, 2017 4:53pm
  - Happychappy
    
    And Labour choose to ignore their report warning them in 2005 itstricky so any reason why they appear to do the same.
    
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    September 18, 2017 4:53pm
    - itstricky
      
      I had no idea about that, I was simply re-reporting what I read earlier this morning – 2012 – and RoL asked the question so I replied. Hence ‘I guess’
      
      That being the case, whatever you’d like to be the reason.
      
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      September 18, 2017 5:10pm
      - starboard
        
        dont lie…you cant read
        
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        September 18, 2017 9:16pm
      - itstricky
        
        How did you guess, starboard?
        
        I just can’t compete with your superior intellect and lightening fast wit.
        
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        September 18, 2017 10:27pm
- Gabby
  
  They’ve had 9 years rightupalabia.
  
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  September 18, 2017 7:46pm
Fletch

If you’re into comics, I highly recommend the ‘Diversity & Comics’ youtube channel, where Zack reads, reviews, and roasts the political correctness of SJW comics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ELL0MpyddA
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September 18, 2017 3:00pm
- cha
  
  How fucking old are you Fletch, 12.
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  September 18, 2017 5:26pm
  - Fletch
    
    cha, hah, I don’t read ’em anymore, but this guys videos I just find entertaining, especially his commentary on the political correctness of today’s comics – with studios hiring trans SJW writers that are ruining comics.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR1iENbrWXE
    
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    September 18, 2017 6:30pm
    - cha
      
      Conservative talking head Charlie Sykes had a bit to say about his movement’s degeneration into the liberal tears claptrap.
      
      What may have begun as a policy or a tactic in opposition has long since become a reflex. But there is an obvious price to be paid for essentially becoming a party devoted to trolling. In the long run, it’s hard to see how a party dedicated to liberal tears can remain a movement based on ideas or centered on principles.
      
      Conservatives will care less about governing and more about scoring “wins” — and inflicting losses on the left — no matter how hollow the victories or flawed the policies. Ultimately, though, this will end badly because it is a moral and intellectual dead end, and very likely a political one as well.
      
      […]
      
      As the right doubles down on anti-anti-Trumpism, it will find itself goaded into defending and rationalizing ever more outrageous conduct just as long as it annoys CNN and the left.
      
      In many ways anti-anti-Trumpism mirrors Donald Trump himself, because at its core there are no fixed values, no respect for constitutional government or ideas of personal character, only a free-floating nihilism cloaked in insult, mockery and bombast.
      
      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/sunday/if-liberals-hate-him-then-trump-must-be-doing-something-right.html?mcubz=0
      
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      September 18, 2017 6:54pm
Digmen1

I hope Labour don’t get in.

It would be more taxes
More refuges
And more of our criminals backout on the streets.

Two ticks blue
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September 18, 2017 3:37pm
- Gabby
  
  Tulixpu.
  
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  September 18, 2017 6:07pm
Brito

You’ll all be very happy to know that the NZ$ is still relatively strong. Just thought I’d share!!!
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September 18, 2017 3:53pm
- rangitoto
  
  Go Blue.
  
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  September 18, 2017 3:58pm
- starboard
  
  Are you still voting Liarbor Buritto? *snigger*
  
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  September 18, 2017 4:32pm
  - Brito
    
    I thought you weren’t talking to me until I hit 1000 comments. I think you need to watch the conditions starboard. There’s a current sweeping into the political bay which will wash away this undertow of socialist uncertainty. The wave of ideology will wash over your political stern and flood your bilge. This is where they attack your freeboard and will cause a capsize of your reality. Did you see what I did there starboard? Very nautical! And Gaby I typed this really slowly just for you.
    
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    September 18, 2017 5:05pm
    - starboard
      
      Are you pissed? Im not talking to you..Im talking at you.
      
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      September 18, 2017 8:50pm
      - Brito
        
        Careful starboard…don’t make the swinging voter angry (and use apostrophes)!!!
        
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        September 18, 2017 9:54pm
- Inandout
  
  The market must have sensed a National win, no other explanation.
  
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  September 18, 2017 10:32pm
JasonJohns

New statement by John Ansell to the masses. This could be a late election gamechanger.

‘Your forefathers built New Zealand. Your grandfathers and fathers fought for it. All you have to do is vote for it. If you don’t, the decades-long Labour/National surrender to tribal conmen (fuelled by an industrial scale lying campaign by corrupt academics) becomes irreversible with the surrender of the nation’s drinking water. If you love New Zealand, put aside your fear of being called a racist – by actual racists – and stand up for your country by sharing this message. Visit http://www.votefornewzealand.com for EVIDENCE of POLITICAL SURRENDER, EVIDENCE of TRIBAL TRICKERY, EVIDENCE of ACADEMIC CORRUPTION and EVIDENCE of PUBLIC OPPOSITION.’
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September 18, 2017 4:58pm
- itstricky
  
  Reads like one of those dodgy ‘click here for your tax rebate’ spam messages.
  
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  September 18, 2017 5:14pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Thanks for the informative link Jason Johns.
  
  I will be sharing that far and wide.
  
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  September 18, 2017 5:17pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Hahaha
    
    It replies to itself ?
    
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    September 18, 2017 7:34pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Smeagol…. *gullom*
    
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    September 18, 2017 7:37pm
JasonJohns

‘Your body is 77% water. ARE YOU HAPPY TO HAND CONTROL OF 77% OF YOUR BODY TO MAORIS AFTER THE ELECTION?’

– John Ansell.
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September 18, 2017 5:00pm
- rangitoto
  
  Don’t worry JJ. Taxinda will ensure no one has more than their allowed 77%. Super tax will be applied to fix this problem. (unless you are a high poobah in the Poliburo )
  
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  September 18, 2017 5:06pm
sooty

Has there ever been a six hundred people protest gathering against a wannabe prime minister before? I think the 600 is msm figuires so brobably wrong on the light side!
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September 18, 2017 5:33pm
- Piniwi
  
  Great turnout sooty. From only 7000 population! Mytle was there and still going strong and the crowd showed Winston where he can stick his finger.
  No show Taxinda with the face that launched 1000 chips and TV ran out of film it seems from only 44 seconds coverage.
  One speaker reminded the crowd that “vegans need farmers too.”
  Interesting that is was such a peaceful protest that had the air of community participation about it. Go Morrinsville. What a sad opportunity missed for a popular feature article.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:41pm
big bruv

I’m sure this has already been commented on. It is no surprise that Sonny Bill Muslim is the families favourite player. Just wait till Labour and the Greens are government, there will be thousands more of these potential terrorists.
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/sport/rugby-union/rugby-fan-rocks-all-blacks-hijab/ar-AAs6oRc?li=AAaeXZz&ocid=ientp
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September 18, 2017 5:56pm
- Longknives
  
  Whatever did happen to Sonny Bill refusing to wear Sponsor Logos on his jersey?
  *Surely not another publicity stunt that he grew tired of?..
  
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  September 18, 2017 6:09pm
- Gabby
  
  How’s that a story? Are the Aussies interning her?
  
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  September 18, 2017 7:41pm
UpandComer

Just voted 2 ticks blue.

Absolute madness if this country votes Labour.

Hey JasonJohns – do you agree with Trotter that the Morrinsville protestors are an historical phenomenon the saliency and gravity of which is upon a plane of socialist significance with that of ‘William Massey’s Cossacks’ who in 1914 drafted from the farms it is told in the Fenian annals, charged the lines of the trade unionists where shots were exchanged in glorious gusto?
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September 18, 2017 6:09pm
- Gabby
  
  Jeez downanouter, Trotsker needs to lay off them verbal prunes. They’re just the nat rentamob.
  
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  September 18, 2017 6:33pm
  - Brito
    
    C’mon Gabster if you want to contribute then do so…if you’re just going to spew vitriol whenever the adults have a conversation you’ll be sent to your room. It’ after 7.30. Homework done and off to bed. School tomorrow.
    
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    September 18, 2017 7:42pm
- Piniwi
  
  Wow UC Trotter really needs to stop buying all that cheap plonk on bulk. All that in one burst is like Shakespere. When asked by his publisher to use more punctuation he filled a page and sent it back. The note read “help yourself”.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:49pm
Longknives

I voted Two Ticks Blue today- Was nice and quiet at the Polling Booth so I didn’t have the typical dickheads from the Left trying to ‘staunch me out’ like I did last Election.. (“Nice Car Bro” “Bet you voting for John Keys?” etc etc)
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September 18, 2017 6:13pm
Longknives

Cops in The States have shot a Transgender Activist..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/96960001/us-student-scout-schultz-shot-dead-by-us-police

Never mind the fact that he/she/it/whatever was charging them with a knife- Just watch the shit hit the fan from shrieking, outraged Lefties…
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September 18, 2017 6:26pm
- kowtow
  
  At least it was white , so there’ll be no rioting.
  
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  September 18, 2017 6:56pm
  - GoVege
    
    That’s probably because it’s so rare for US cops to shoot a white guy…in the South anyway.
    
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    September 18, 2017 10:20pm
- big bruv
  
  Looks like a very good bit of Police work.
  
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  September 18, 2017 7:02pm
fluffykiwi

Posted to wrong topic earlier.
LABOUR knew about the vulnerable fuel pipeline back in 2005. What was their plan. Lots of land involved in any new constructed pipeline. Pity about the bastardised RMA Act wanted a simpler one, national allowd maori more say, that will not help here even if in the national interest, still I suppose money can change hands for the subterranean taniwha.
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September 18, 2017 6:49pm
- Gabby
  
  Their plan might have been not to dig the fucker up fluffy.
  
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  September 18, 2017 7:39pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Gabby.
    You’ve already been told its naughty to shag mummy’s chihuahua.
    You need to have you bath and go to bed – but don’t play with your little willy.
    We know, its so small that it will only fit a chihuahua, but it wont grow by playing with it.
    You just need to carry on with little kiddy dreams.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:33pm
    - GoVege
      
      You’re pathetic, Don.
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:18pm
sooty

Cindy, will you head north on maori day, if you become PM?
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September 18, 2017 7:38pm
- stigie
  
  If that’s the case sooty, she will be the most inexperienced PM New Zealand has ever had.
  Gawd we have some dumb fucking voters here, is this really democracy..?
  
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  September 18, 2017 7:44pm
  - starboard
    
    ..but but..she has such nice hair and a bootiful smile..she must know what she is doing?..and Clarke Gayford said she’s a lovely person who never farts.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:12pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  She said yes the other day, always gets warm welcome she reckons…
  
  or she has been such a non-entity until now she was ignored
  
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  September 18, 2017 7:44pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Cindy has said Liarbor will continue to attend Waitangi.
  Bill has already stated he will not be spending his time up at Waitangi, rather celebrate around the country with all NZ’ers.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:47pm
marcmywords

Jacinda has live NZH Q&A on Facebook at 8pm…
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September 18, 2017 7:58pm
JibberJabber

Comrade Helen has got the pip that Comrade Jacinda got some rural admiration in her home town.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11923648
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September 18, 2017 8:21pm
- starboard
  
  klarkula..you are old news. NZ voters dumped you.
  Your opinion means jack shit. You are yesterday’s news.
  Foxtrot Oscar.
  
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  September 18, 2017 8:45pm
  - starboard
    
    …and you bummed out on the UN position…ain’t karma a bitch.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:10pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Not only that, since the UN gave you the DCM you’ve been slagging them off as a useless organisation.
      Such class…..
      
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      September 18, 2017 9:18pm
- waikatogirl
  
  “Clark took to Facebook to defend Ardern while taking a swing at protesters and their “misogynist” comments.”
  
  Wrong, wrong, wrong! Clark saying Morrinsville farmers’ comments about Cindy were “misogynistic” is a feminism ‘red herring’. Clark is trying to protect her inexperienced protege. The comments were purely political. Cindy is going for the position of PM not the chairwoman of the local community club. If Cindy can’t take the heat then get out of the kitchen.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:17pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Ffs, Jacinda has to have her Mom and her boyfriend stand up for her!
    Some leader.
    Sad!
    As for Clark, she’s starting to be a real whiner.
    
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    September 18, 2017 9:30pm
    - stigie
      
      That’s because she’s getting fuck all from the Professor !~
      
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      September 18, 2017 10:45pm
Piniwi

You’ve gotta love KB. The safest place to make a RED tick that wont let them win. Cheers. The new broadband connection is great so get to hit the RED for all leftie trolls.
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September 18, 2017 8:56pm
Piniwi

It had to come and where better than a native academic! Oxymoron? The RACE CARD.
A Maori academic has accused Electoral Commission staff at advance voting booths of being “completely ignorant and unprepared” to facilitate the vote of Maori electors.

Whats to “facilitate”?? You get your form, make your mark (just like the ancestors on the TOW) put it in the box. Bing bong bang your a voter. Easy.

Don’t know what roll your on. No probem same simple process. Infromals are counted too.
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September 18, 2017 9:23pm
- waikatogirl
  
  She was completely sanctimonious about her claim of Electoral Commission staff being racist. The staff member told the guy he would have to change to another queue to access the staff member with the Maori Electoral roll.
  
  I assume the reason it is more efficient to not have all polling staff swapping between the general electoral roll and separate Maori electoral roll when matching names. That only creates confusion and wastes time for everyone else waiting to be checked. Talk about trying to create an issue where there is none.
  
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  September 18, 2017 9:50pm
starboard

Such racists. Mouldy need all the help they can get.
They really are handicapped..the Govt said so.
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September 18, 2017 10:32pm
- Brito
  
  You may have started the debate today but you’re definitely not getting the last word…I am.
  
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  September 19, 2017 6:34am
Left Right and Centre

Jacindy speak:
we’re going to sit down and have a conversation about blah blah blah . . .

Makes running the country sound like just a little bit of chit chat over the back fence eh ? Softly softly softly waffle waffle equals power power power
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September 19, 2017 7:08am
Brito

But eventually the softly, softly approach fails and the real colours of these folk are displayed. They know best therefore the ‘people’ will fall into line. There may not be a physical gulag but a metaphorical version was displayed last time they were in power…remember Clark calling John Campbell ‘a little creep’. That was the last time (s)he spoke to the nation through him. If they are confronted they cut that particular person off at the knees and circle the wagons.
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September 19, 2017 7:31am
Inandout

This is brilliant. An aged father, Trump hater and general snowflake cries 4 times a day because he is so tired looking after the twin babies. He is so wealthy that he can hire a nanny for the night shift.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/baby/96982170/george-clooney-admits-to-crying-four-times-a-day
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