General Debate 26 August 2017

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Longknives

What exactly is it about Mike Hosking that has the Left so terrified?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/96152694/mike-hoskings-views-and-attitude-dangerous-to-tvnzs-integrity

I personally can’t stand the Politics of Katie ‘I’m an Activist’ Bradford or that wimp Corin Dann but I’m not shrieking for them to be sacked every time they say something I disagree with..
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August 26, 2017 8:02am
- Longknives
  
  Not to mention Jack Tame, Hilary Barry etc etc
  *In fact the vast majority of our TV ‘personalities’ lean heavily to the Left don’t they?
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:04am
  - ztev
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Hoswking is super partisan. Hes slagged off previous labour leaders and the greens all the time.
    hes even said vote for national on one occasion.
    
    Thats all a no no for a neutral debate moderator.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:18am
    - Chris R
      
      Well…you wish to be Speaker. You’d be a no no for that job on the same bases you hurl at Hosking.
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:25am
    - realityczech
      
      “Hes slagged off previous labour leaders and the greens all the time.”
      
      Yet slagging off NZF/National/ACT makes you non biased in your view.
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:25am
      - sooty
        
        The snowflakes want Green Campbell!
        
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        August 26, 2017 9:32am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        AND it is because he is just soooooo not partisan.
        
        Sigh
        
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        August 26, 2017 9:46am
      - 3-coil
        
        Agreed sooty (9:32am) – the lefties’ choice is John Campbell, who has publicly declared in the past that he is a Green party sympathiser. The whingers are so blind to their own bias that they cannot hear how pathetically hypocritical their petulant demands are.
        
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        August 26, 2017 9:48am
    - Positan
      
      Oh, those on the poor little touchy-feely Left can’t take any sort of criticism can they?
      
      Even when it’s blindingly deserved !!!
      
      So they hold permanent grudges against all who point their failings out. JeeZ !!!
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:31am
      - sooty
        
        You just wait till after the election if National win. The snowflakes will have hurty feelings and riot in the street.
        
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        August 26, 2017 9:34am
  - softail 1450
    
    I felt sorry for seymore this morning on lefty tv3 being attacked from every side including the moderator on a minor party debate.
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:01am
- G152
  
  He says what most of us think. Really dangerous stuff for the snowflakes
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:16am
  - GazzaW
    
    Hosking, Leighton and Larry. Three lonely voices of rationalism and they will be sorely needed over the next four weeks as the lefties ramp it up.
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:34am
    - Lance
      
      Hosking has said a number of times he promotes whom he agrees with and opposes those he disagrees with. Oh the horror.
      The said he was pro David Lange in the day and said so openly.
      But I guess Lange + Roger Douglas are considered class traitors by the loony left these days.
      
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      August 26, 2017 4:50pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Yep there is change.org petitions, multiple Facebook echo chambers etc
  
  Every article Mike publishes has all the commie key board warriors going after him
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:20am
- oldpark
  
  Or the News Of The World reject Andrea Vance,who deliberately last night on the Lie-bour/Green Party channel TVNZ,told us about some type of news from Lie-bour today,but Omitted variable -bias the news,
  that the National Party were opening their election campaign on today Saturday.
  Wonder watching and listening to her most nights,she is so biased against the National Government,she even outshines Sue Bradfords daughter ,known as Katie Bradford.
  She must be on a performance bonus of knee capping the National Government and encouraged nightly by TVNZ,trade union infested newsroom of 263 employees.
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:35am
  - VicParking
    
    There should be a panel of interviewers asking one question each, this would satisfy the left.
    Can I suggest: Patrick Gower, Kim Dotcom, Chris Trotter, Nicky Hagar, Tracey Watkins, John Campbell, Bryce Edwards, Duncan Garner , Katy Bradford, Leighton Smith and Stephen Franks. No bias here
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:13am
    - pdm
      
      I have not heard anyone complaining about Lisa Owen who is currently moderating a minor leaders debate on TheNation.
      
      Lisa has a history of cutting National cabinet ministers off when they are speaking but giving opposition speakers a free reign.
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:30am
      - oldpark
        
        Most people dont watch that crappy news outlet,since they discovered the guy with a head on him like a bucket of blood.A sicko biased ratbag against National Government,his name Patrick Gower,rhymes with shower,how appropiate.
        
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        August 26, 2017 9:44am
      - softail 1450
        
        seymore is being savaged by all sides on that programme ….
        
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        August 26, 2017 10:03am
  - KevOB
    
    I do not believe that the government owned channel has a mandate for crafted political bias.
    
    A time will come when a directive will have to be given by the owners to hire non-biased people.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:34am
    - sooty
      
      Sell it.
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:36am
  - KKKKatee
    
    I saw her little ‘ra ra’ about the Drama Queen Jacinda last night. Vance was so giggly it wasn’t funny. In fact, it was nauseating to watch. She really, really wants Jacinda to win this competition doesn’t she?
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:35am
    - KevOB
      
      It will mean a job for her.
      
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      August 26, 2017 12:11pm
- Chris R
  
  I like Mike Hosking on ZB breakfast but as with most TV I avoid the evening programme. On the few occasions I have seen the TV programme I thought that both he and the woman he sits beside (the one which looks like a pound of butter) simply show-off and compete with each other on the glibness stakes. When Mike fires-up at 6am it is a world apart from the clown Smalley who blathers at 5am. I envy Mike in his ability to “offend” “antagonise” and generally piss-off the mindless left.
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:58am
  - KKKKatee
    
    Mike really doesn’t need Toni Street imo. I think the programme would be much better if Street was dropped. She’s a ‘giggling gertie’ and adds no benefit that I can see to the show. Seven Sharp has really become a talkfest of utter nonsense these days and I think the show could be much improved by dumping her and going back to much more hard-hitting topics. Street will never be a credible ‘journalist’ or whatever she wants to call herself imo. And certainly not up to the mark like Hosking. Oh and my god, the dress Street was wearing on Thursday night was a shocker! Did she not look in the mirror before the start of the show? Seemed to add kilos to her frame.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:41am
    - Flash
      
      I like Toni Street as a personality. She’s a nice person, and in this case I’m not damning with faint praise. Her wardrobe is chosen by the company that is noted as sponsor at the end of the programme, and which pays money for her to wear their product. Some of the garments are definitely unattractive, I agree, and are not flattering. As for being chubby – I believe there is a health condition which influences her weight.
      However, I think that Hosking is now more at ease with the two brunettes who seem to fill in when Street is off duty. I think he felt somewhat threatened when she started mentioning being on a morning radio programme – a music station, scarcely a threat to his programme – and that is when he started closing 7Sharp with his plug for the breakfast programme. He was quite terse with her.
      So although I quite like Hosking’s breakfast programme, I don’t particularly like the man. Y’know what I mean?
      
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      August 26, 2017 10:53am
    - Gabby
      
      Chop chop for little Toni eh kkkakt. Who you sending round.
      
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      August 26, 2017 11:50am
    - Positan
      
      I agree wholeheartedly. Street’s performances are abysmal – giggling inanely, interrupting with barely relevant asides – she adds absolutely nothing to the programme. The quiet refined demeanour of Caroline Robinson is most welcome as her replacement.
      
      The last time I watched the whole 30 minutes with Street on board is so far back I’ve forgotten it completely. Washing the dinner dishes is a far less aggravating activity.
      
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      August 26, 2017 1:17pm
  - Surely Knott
    
    Stuffs reporting as usual had 2 leading articles. 1 anti – hosking. 1 anti-national report card fail. The anti Hosking article is written by some author named Dani McDonald. Dani’s linkedin profile said she started in April. And her facebook page says she lives in Darwin and was a reporter in Darwin Local Paper. Is she now living in NZ. If she arrived here in April as an entertainment reporter should she really be the lead story and calling to fire our media. Her first facebook page like is gareth hughes green mp. Is she going to be staying in NZ or does she just come over for the elections. 2. ARTICLE 2. National Parties failed report card is completely unintelligible. But if you make it past paragraph 10 you’ll find find this “To its credit, voters enter the polling booths in 28 days knowing there’s a strong economy, low interest rates, low unemployment and solid economic growth. National have been solid manager ” Well yeah Duncan. That’s pretty much it isn’t it. Perhaps that could have been the title with a pic of Bill English. National, solid Managers of our economy an economy that is the envy of the world. Sigh. No pro- national headlines at all to balance it up.
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:01am
    - Southern Raider
      
      She probably isn’t even eligible to vote
      
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      August 26, 2017 10:24am
      - Peter
        
        Was Lizzy not available this week?
        
        “To TVNZ: Hosking cannot speak our native language correctly. He didn’t apologise after making a mistake. He has not acknowledged the damage he may have done and for that.”
        
        What damage? If you don’t like Hosking, don’t listen to him.
        
        ” He has not acknowledged the damage he may have done and for that”
        
        What a mangled phrase. Attend an English class.
        
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        August 26, 2017 12:22pm
- MCos
  
  Everyone knows that Hosking tends to have right of centre views and he will take any opportunity to express his opinion or cosy up to politicians of a like mind on his programmes.
  That’s OK. You don’t have to listen to him.
  The problem was that the other day Michael made a mistake. He said “you can’t vote for the Maori Party because you’re not enrolled on the Maori electorate”.
  The best construct that can be put on that from his point of view is that he was unaware we have two votes, which is totally unrealistic.
  No wonder the Maori Party were pissed off, and probably their partners the National Party.
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:59am
  - waikatogirl
    
    So why does NZ have a separate Maori roll? Surely one electoral roll for everyone, and you vote for Maori Party if you wish. The Maori roll is window dressing, totally superfluous to our voting structure.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:28am
    - pdm
      
      Well said Waikato Girl.
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:35am
    - KevOB
      
      That’s the roll for voting for the reserved Maori electoral candidates.
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:36am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        That is understood KOB, however, is not the point that is being made.
        
        Why do we cling to this apartheid system?
        
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        August 26, 2017 9:52am
      - MCos
        
        KevOB is probably the last person to ask.
        
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        August 26, 2017 12:44pm
- Peter
  
  There seems to be an easy fascism in the left generally.
  
  It’s as if they model themselves on Rick from the Young Ones. And like that character, immune from self awareness.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:19am
srylands

TVNZ “integrity” ?
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August 26, 2017 8:06am
duggledog

TVNZ and RNZ, sworn enemies of National.

National did nothing in their last nine year term to eradicate the wasps’ nest.

So they reap what they sow.
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August 26, 2017 8:10am
- PhilBest
  
  A classic: British libertarian Sean Gabb addressing the Young Conservatives:
  
  http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2012/05/blast-from-the-past-sean-gabb-speech-to-the-conservatives-2137036.html
  
  “…you should not try to work with the Establishment. You should not try to jolly it along. You should not try fighting it on narrow fronts. You must regard it as the enemy, and you must smash it.
  On the first day of your government, you should close down the BBC. You should take it off air. You should disclaim its copyrights. You should throw all its staff into the street. You should not try to privatise the BBC. This would simply be to transfer the voice of your enemy from the public to the private sector, where it might be more effective in its opposition. You must shut it down – and shut it down at once. You should do the same with much of the administration. The Foreign Office, much of the Home Office, the Commission for Racial Equality, anything to do with health and safety and planning and child protection – I mean much of the public sector – these should be shut down. If at the end of your first month in power, you have not shut down half of the State, you are failing. ..”
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:16am
  - Inandout
    
    Sean Gabb talks some sense in this article, but his other writings like this broad-brush writing blaming Western ills on Jews demeans him somewhat.
    
    http://www.seangabb.co.uk/libertarianism-a-jewish-false-flag-2014-by-sean-gabb/
    
    Then he redeems himself speaking of Enoch Powell.
    
    http://www.barrelstrength.com/2014/09/14/sean-gabb-enoch-powell/
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:07am
  - Gabby
    
    Seanie better hope he’s buried any little past indiscretions very very deep.
    
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    August 26, 2017 11:55am
- srylands
  
  Yep. I have commented before about my puzzlement that the Government did not change the Board of RNZ.
  
  TVNZ is a commercial low brow TV broadcaster that should be sold.
  
  Radio NZ could perform a useful function as a national commercial free provider of news and information. A national radio network also remains useful in civil emergency.
  
  But you need to burn down the Board and start again.
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:17am
- Paulus
  
  If you look at the dreadful Harold today add that to the list.
  What is it with these Lefties – balance – what is that ?
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:31am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Imagine if they had, they would have been accused of ….all sorts.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:28am
Southern Raider

Quick straw poll

Uptick if your party vote is going to ACT

Down tick if your party vote is going to another party
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August 26, 2017 8:15am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Sorry, upticked by mistake.
  TWO TICKS BLUE !!!
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:37am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Captain that is your subconscious telling you that you really should party vote ACT
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:42am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      I used to.
      
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      August 26, 2017 8:51am
      - Jack5
        
        Unfortunately, ACT’s party vote is usually lost completely, instead of helping the Right.
        
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        August 26, 2017 9:24am
  - KevOB
    
    ☑️☑️
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:37am
    - Gabby
      
      Tulixpu
      
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      August 26, 2017 11:56am
  - Gabby
    
    TULIXPU !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!
    
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    August 26, 2017 1:21pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Unfortunately I can’t uptick myself
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:42am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I always tell fibs on these types of poll.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:23am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Green Party wasn’t an option 🙂
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:35am
    - KevOB
      
      ✔️✔️
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:38am
      - Gabby
        
        Tulixpu
        
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        August 26, 2017 11:57am
- peterwn
  
  I would love to give my PV to ACT but feel it would be wasted in present circumstances. This is a problem which ACT faces, unless ACT can start polling at around 3% or better many voters would not want to risk their PV’s being wasted.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:45am
  - Southern Raider
    
    And if everyone thinks like that no one will vote for them
    
    It’s a self fulfilling prophecy
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:20am
holysheet

A Katie Bradford moment in time. Her immortal words; “No matter what we do, no matter what we say, the polls still favour National”
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August 26, 2017 8:15am
- Southern Raider
  
  Did you see the picture from yesterday (was in a ChCh mall I think) and the public is smiling and chatting to Bill, except in the background you can see Katie with a filthy bitch face on
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:22am
  - holysheet
    
    Has she any other?
    Just like her mother.
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:32am
  - Longknives
    
    Ha Ha the Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree does it?
    Katie Bradford is a protester not a reporter- She is so utterly consumed with hate.
    Watch her turn on Adern and Labour if they get into Government..She knows nothing else.
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:33am
    - peterwn
      
      No, she would land some media job in the Beehive.
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:48am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I wondered which was the plum job, Katie would probably rather be following Jacinda around as Vance is, I wonder how they picked who went where? Short straw?
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:31am
    - pdm
      
      Is Katie still `involved’ with Cunliffe?
      
      If she ever was of course.
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:39am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Cunliffe is not involved with politics any more.
        If he ever was.
        
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        August 26, 2017 9:55am
      - lifesgood
        
        Her name used to be something else before she reverted to “Bradford”.
        
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        August 26, 2017 12:51pm
- Gabby
  
  Fatcambo made that up I believe.
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:58am
oldpark

Seems the overblown and premature adulation of Angry Andy Little’s replacement,by the trade union infested NZ Mainstream Media. Such as the NZ taxfunded Red Radio,Lie-bour/Green Party chanel TVNZ,the Australian owned Fairfax stuff and NZHerald and their Newstalk ZB outlet . For the last four weeks ,their fake news exulting Angry Andy Little’s replacement,is starting to show some cracks.
Now the potential voters have had a chance to find out what sort of policies Angry Andy’s replacement,has been divulging ,seems none,all that type of confidential information is being with held until after the election.
Reasons seem to be ,special appointed committees will decide,just how much tax and other punitive measures will be enacted,as they see fit.
The real truth is Angry Andy’s replacement,dosn’t seem to know much about running a country. In fact maybe the “empress is wearing no clothes”.
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August 26, 2017 8:17am
- srylands
  
  “In fact maybe the “empress is wearing no clothes”.”
  
  That would certainly get attention.
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:20am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I dunno
    
    We have all seen naked but that is a set of teeth to behold . . . . .
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:56am
- Paulus
  
  Grant Robertson has been appointed Headperson of the Committee for after the election.
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:32am
  - oldpark
    
    Or it it a headcase.
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:39am
    - starboard
      
      no no no, we cannot have a homosexual in a senior role like that, there’s one already in the National party gayly giving away NZ to the brown mafia like there’s no tomorrow.
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:07am
- 3-coil
  
  Oldpark (8:17am) – the Labour Party have made public that their (post election victory) taxation review group will be led by their very own Grant Robertson.
  
  Edit: Sorry to repeat, just seen Paulus’ comment.
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:44am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Worth repeating, we really do need to scare those who are still entertaining the thought of party vote for the Green Parrot candidate just to teach National a lesson.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:58am
Happychappy

How is the drama Queen from Labour and what sort of money will she promise this weekend. They talk about poverty and obesity and they are more into giving the money to those that vote so how is that going to better Nationals social Welfare and family package.
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August 26, 2017 8:17am
- Southern Raider
  
  You mean how many soup kitchens or schools will she visit this weekend and next week where there is no one to challenge her on the lack of substance?
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:24am
PhilBest

Just discovered another magnificent conservative writer: Richard Fernandez. Sampler for today:

“…Modern Nazism is to all intents and purposes, a dead movement. Their only real value today is to serve as decoy jammer; a minor or spurious target whose goal is to draw attention away from a real threat…”

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/08/17/burn-through/
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August 26, 2017 8:17am
Southern Raider

The Labour supporters this election are some of the most uneducated lemmings I’ve ever seen in twenty years of voting

There is a groundswell for change but they can’t articulate why that is needed or why change for change sake is a good thing

They repeat the party one liners of all farmers are polluters, homelessness and suicide is all Nationals fault

Then there is the agreement that Jacinda has no experience but we should just give her a go and let her use the next three years to get up to speed
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August 26, 2017 8:18am
- kowtow
  
  And powerful support from the media.
  
  “Under our changes, children who are living in poverty [and] their families will be thousands of dollars better off per annum for the first three years of their life.”
  
  I guarantee that even if Labour does get in ,they won’t eliminate “poverty”. Because we have relative poverty , not absolute poverty.
  
  And like the Treaty gravy train , the poverty train will run for ever.
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/election-2017/child-poverty-unfinished-business
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:29am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Sounds like a sure fire recipe for success if I ever heard one! Where do I sign? Should I be telling my friends?
  
  And if you have a minute, there is a bridge over I’d like you to look at that you will just not believe!
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:33am
- Paulus
  
  Can you see her representing New Zealand at say APEC.
  Oy veh !!!
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:34am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Neigh!
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:35am
    - starboard
      
      “Where are the carrot sticks..there’s no carrot sticks on this platter”
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:09am
  - GazzaW
    
    The Silly Shirts Day will be a huge challenge to her image.
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:40am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Not to the Wellington fairy who will have replaced the orthodontists wet dream by then
      
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      August 26, 2017 10:01am
- krazykiwi
  
  Then there is the agreement that Jacinda has no experience but we should just give her a go and let her use the next three years to get up to speed
  
  Yes, I’ve heard the same thing. I’m gobsmacked that anyone would think it acceptable for a PM to wear trainer wheels while directing the economy, social policy, trade and international relations.
  
  It is utter madness.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:37am
  - sooty
    
    Time out to have a baby as well.
    
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    August 26, 2017 12:31pm
  - peterwn
    
    I think she has only been made PM to try and win the election. She would probably be rolled in 6 months and the unions will put Andy back in the hot seat. Or an Auckland MP would conveniently vacate his/her seat (for London, Washington, etc) and let Helen Clark into Parliament. Helen would probably be their only hope of retaining power in 2020.
    
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    August 26, 2017 1:05pm
    - Paulus
      
      The Unions take back control of Labour the day after the election as per their Constitution.
      
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      August 26, 2017 1:14pm
- KevOB
  
  Many are infected with the American disease.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:41am
  - Gabby
    
    Merkin dizzies! Merkin dizzies!
    
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    August 26, 2017 12:03pm
    - KevOB
      
      You too?
      
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      August 26, 2017 12:12pm
      - Gabby
        
        TuPu?
        
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        August 26, 2017 1:22pm
      - Lance
        
        Don’t engage it KevOB
        About as mature as a 5 year old who has learned to write ‘bum’ and then proceeds to scrall it everywhere.
        
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        August 26, 2017 5:01pm
- Flash
  
  Someone once said that everyone should be a socialist until they have completed their education and had a few years earning a living, by which time they should have matured into conservatism . . . .
  or words to that effect.
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:06am
duggledog

Southern Raider

Heard a lady who called up Leighton Smith yesterday morning, she said she was going to vote for Jacinda Ardern because ‘she is a breath of fresh air’.

That’s what you’re dealing with here. No talk of policy, downstream consequences, nothing.

Just a ‘breath of fresh air’.
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August 26, 2017 8:23am
- Southern Raider
  
  Just saw a fantastic cartoon
  
  Basically goes
  – what do we want? Free stuff
  – who are we going to vote for? Jacinda
  – what don’t we understand? Economics
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:25am
  - srylands
    
    Can you post a link?
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:28am
    - Southern Raider
      
      Sorry it was on a Facebook comment someone made and now I can’t find it. If I manage to come across it again I’ll post it
      
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      August 26, 2017 8:39am
    - holysheet
      
      http://www.polyp.org.uk/cartoons/wealth/polyp_cartoon_make_poverty_history.jpg
      
      http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-480lDpxUiOk/ToqKgvEVRzI/AAAAAAAADW8/hFC4bTdOiDE/s1600/041011satish.jpg
      
      http://blogs.thetimes-tribune.com/johncole/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/032812coletoon.jpg
      
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      August 26, 2017 8:44am
  - PhilBest
    
    National has done such a great job the last 3 terms, making the argument about Economics, hahahaha. If it didn’t matter for WFF, why should it matter for the next assault from the progressive welfarist left? All you Vichy-ites and deserters from the long political battleground asked for this, and you are still not admitting your failure. On current historical trajectory, National will not only “never repeal” the loony economic stuff Labour might do, National might even enact it themselves on day, or pass amendments that make it worse rather than better!
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:36am
  - KevOB
    
    Econmics: political econony.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:42am
- kowtow
  
  Great example of how the universal franchise is a really bad idea.
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:31am
  - mikenmild
    
    We should restrict the franchise on a rational basis by imposing a simple written test that an educated 12 year old could pass. It would of course, rule out anyone who professed a belief in irrational things, like pixies, unicorns or religious delusions,but are those the kind of fools how should be given a say in things?
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:37am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Mikey’s missing his widdle teddy bear.
      
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      August 26, 2017 11:04am
  - Gabby
    
    The franchise should be limited to people who know you vote for the bloke you’d like to have a beer with.
    
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    August 26, 2017 12:05pm
- Paulus
  
  Am hearing “breath of fresh air” and “nice hair” – pity she had nothing done as a child with the teeth, it is everywhere – where is the air coming from and who is going to pay for it ?
  Maori own the air remember.
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:37am
  - Gabby
    
    ‘Nice hair’ – was Sir Ponyboy interviewed?
    
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    August 26, 2017 12:06pm
    - starboard
      
      What about ‘swissball’ Hughes? JK played with a waitresses ponytail while his wife was standing nearby..whopp de do. Darren Hughes plied a very young man with alcohol then tried to put his penis up the young man’s anus, all done under the roof of Labour Senior Cabinet Minister Full Moon King’s house.
      Don’t even start me on ***** ****** with his frequent trips to Asia accompanied by his partner – up-the- Kaiser.
      
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      August 26, 2017 12:56pm
- Swifty
  
  It’s pathetic, isn’t it?
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:39am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Did Leighton give her an appropriate response?
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:52am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    no, I heard it too and thought stupid moron. I think he felt the same and was not prepared to engage with a half wit. However, the stats that he was reading from the poll gave me some hope. They broadly reflect the average of the polls since Jacindarella started the Makeup process. Essentially even if the Lipstick is the best in the world, it doesn’t change the substance of the Pig…..
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:10am
    - Southern Raider
      
      If the majority of people voting for Jacinda are under 29 surely the solution is raise the voting age to 30
      
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      August 26, 2017 11:36am
- ztev
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Have you seen Bills TV commercials
  
  Policy Free schmaltz ! Not that national ever went into an election with anything but nursery rhymes they call policy.
  Even last election the selling of state houses was announced the Sunday after the election .
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:24am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    And the policy to see the sale of state assets was announced in plenty of time for people to consider if they would vote for a party that would complete the sales process.
    
    The same amount of time the left had to fuck the whole process over and cost the country billions!
    
    How many ‘light rail’ ‘harbour bridges walkways’, ‘reduce poverty’, ‘bridge the gaps’, ‘any of the left Bullshit left catchphrases’ you care to roll out would those missing billions have funded?
    
    A Dunedin hospital or two tomorrow I wager.
    
    You really piss me off at times Z in spite of your well resourced information that you post; try through ‘glass half full’ today and see how that pans out
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:11am
    - GazzaW
      
      Agree 100% Paulus.
      
      There are times when I wonder why DPF doesn’t tell ztev to fuck off permanently but he’s a permanent reminder to us all of what socialism is all about. Perpetual negativity and snarky comments. Mrs ztev must be an absolute paragon waking up to that each and every morning.
      
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      August 26, 2017 10:32am
      - RF
        
        GazzaW.
        
        Presuming that ztev is a male. Sometimes the tone of the posts indicate both male & female. Maybe a tag team….
        
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        August 26, 2017 12:01pm
  - oldpark
    
    Bit like the demise of the Privy Council by Clark and her gang ,which you seem to have forgotten to mention.
    That type of ambush,is the same type of omission that is being enacted now,by your Lie-bour/Green bunch of no hopers and losers,give us your vote,and we will **** you after the election.
    Maybe could end up as the biggest con job visited on NZ voters.Beats the hell out of Mugabe politics and elections.
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:14am
PhilBest

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/08/24/after-the-war-of-statues/

After the War on Statues
BY RICHARD FERNANDEZ

“…If the traditional marriage definition fell rapidly the even more ancient institution of gender collapsed in the blink of an eye. Questioning a “custom gender” in 2017 had become an offense as heinous as suggesting illegal immigration was a crime. ..

“…Events have since accelerated with dizzying speed. College men are tossed out of university on rape charges neither the police nor even the universities themselves can sustain. An engineer at Google was fired over questioning diversity policies. Ten applicants had their acceptances to Harvard withdrawn for saying politically incorrect things on Facebook. You can be ruined, doxed, blackballed, fired not simply for violating current codes but those still to come.

Just when it seemed things could go no faster the War on Statues began…

“…Maybe Rauch was right to argue there is no “slippery slope”, no connection between one demand and the one which follows. But the tendency of political activism to demand ever more extreme concessions the more are granted suggests the opposite. In the progressive march toward “progress” a slippery slope is not only possible but necessary for the momentum to continue.

Quite the contrary to “please stop changing the subject!” progress must keep changing the subject. Like a man ascending a burning ladder he must get his foot on the next rung before the present step burns beneath. The imperative is to move on to a new demand before the demands of the latest concession can even be assessed. Progress is in perpetual flight from the consequences of its victories; like a gravitational singularity it must keep assimilating more material…”
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August 26, 2017 8:27am
- Gabby
  
  Ferny’s a bit of a snoflake girlyman isn’t he philly.
  
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  August 26, 2017 12:09pm
duggledog

Basically, TVNZ and RNZ (and Maori TV) are almost entirely reliant on the tax payer.

RNZ had their funding frozen for 8 – 9 years under National.

Same with Maori TV.

TVNZ got told to produce a dividend under National. (Under Clark’s regime they were told not to worry too much about it.)

It is very much in all these organs’ interest to slant everything towards the liberal left. No question. Jobs are at stake… high paying jobs BTW.

Together, these three capture many hearts and minds and they have all been working diligently to attack the National administration for years.

National has allowed their enemies a platform and even got their traditional support base to pay for it. Madness.
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August 26, 2017 8:30am
- Souvlaki
  
  Yes…let’s be honest ..like the RMA capitulation to IWI oversight…a complete and utter balls up by the Nats who it seems can’t fight their way out of a wet paperbag .:-(. So much lost opportunity..it makes me depressed.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:08am
- Jack5
  
  The TVNZ dividend is a bit of a con. Especially when Government funded productions are taken into account it has remained a drain on taxpayers.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:34am
waikatogirl

‘Never bite the hand that feeds you’ comes to mind
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August 26, 2017 8:44am
Keeping Stock

Fran O’Sullivan doesn’t pull any punches this morning:

Jacinda Ardern has the momentum at the 2017 election, but she should stop the charade and issue a detailed capital gains tax policy.

Ardern has been leading Labour since the 1st of August. She argues that she needs more time to have a “fresh look” at thorny tax issues.

But the Labour Party – of which she has been a leading light – has been in Opposition for nearly nine years.

That’s plenty of time to get the detail together. That fact that it hasn’t done so suggests incompetence, or a lack of courage when it comes to selling fundamental tax reform.

http://nzh.tw/11911404

Well said. The #LetsTaxThis Party needs to be upfront and honest with the punters.
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August 26, 2017 8:50am
- Ross12
  
  Fran is right KS and it is exactly the same as the GOP in the USA re Obamacare. Had 8 years of moaning but didn’t have anything ready to put in place when given the chance.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:01am
  - ztev
    
    Theres pages and pages here
    http://www.labour.org.nz/announced_policies
    
    Plus each section has links to more detail.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:27am
    - Ross12
      
      Nothing about CGT, ztev , which is what is being discussed.
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:51am
    - calendar girl
      
      Yes, ztev. Endless platitudes, including most of the stuff provided in the links. It’s a snow job to camouflage a lack of specific policy.
      
      I could be persuaded otherwise that it was ‘policy’ if sections included specifics, such as the following:
      – approximate start / implementation dates, costs and transition arrangements;
      – specific tax rates;
      – additional costs to be met by targets (e.g. farmers, food processors, alternative modes of transport);
      – costs / losses for people with assets gathered for their retirement.
      
      Labour policy is being thought up on the run. It is thin on planning and short on detail. And it displays very little concern for mainstream, hard-working New Zealanders
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:56am
    - GazzaW
      
      Red herring again ztev! Where’s there any mention of CGT?
      
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      August 26, 2017 10:35am
  - Paulus
    
    But n no way did Trump actually expect to win against the corrupt left Clintons.
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:52am
- Inandout
  
  We can only pray that with Jacinda, ‘a week is a long time on Facebook’.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:13am
- KevOB
  
  No tax details: no mandate–no consent.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:46am
- Paulus
  
  Such as intelligent thought on say CGT is left to Bill Rosenberg of the Federation of Labour to decide.
  Such like any tax considerations is way above the intelligence of the Labour MPs.
  Remember they have no business experience except Parker whose shameful Dunedin record leaves much to be desired.
  Who and when did any Labourites have a real non political experience outside the Trade unions – such as teaching.
  
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  August 26, 2017 10:51am
Swifty

Why do I get the feeing that we haven’t seen the last of Metiria?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11911047

If I was a Green party member, I would be actively resisting her return as an MP, or leader. She is poison to the party’s future success. Recent events have confirmed that.

Her sneaking back at some future time? Once it’s all blown over?

Fuggedaboutit….
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August 26, 2017 8:54am
- oldpark
  
  She still has to look forward to being charged in a court of law with benefit fraud.Or does that type of politician,beat the system.Is it ok when they do it.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:04am
  - sooty
    
    She knows a good trough when she sees one!
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:46am
  - Paulus
    
    Nothing will happen to Meteria – she will be given a bill for what she stole and that would be the end of it.
    She will come up politically somewhere else.
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:54am
- calendar girl
  
  Assuming that she’s not elected to Parliament, my interest will lie in what she turns to for her future income – allowing her to sustain her not-inexpensive lifestyle and to repay the State (with compounding interest) for the money that she has received through her historical fraud.
  
  I shall be appalled if she gains an appointment, any appointment, within the public sector, and continues to be paid by taxpayers whom she defrauded for years.
  
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  August 26, 2017 10:54am
  - Paulus
    
    A blood good MP pension for all the years in Parliament.
    She is still officially an MP so she can get the run off salary and perks.
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:55am
    - sooty
      
      Till 3mths after election. Dec 23. What a lovely christmas pressie to nz.
      
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      August 26, 2017 12:39pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Perhaps the rules could be changed so that all MPs lose their salaries three month before the election.
        
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        August 26, 2017 5:58pm
  - Swifty
    
    Agreed – interested in what she does next…..
    
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    August 26, 2017 5:42pm
RF

I was listening to Jamie McKay this morning on NewsTalk ZB and taxcinda was being interviewed.

Plenty of I will do this etc but when she finished she actually had said nothing that was informative.

She can talk the hind legs off a donkey but leaves you begging the question…. what did she actually say apart from promising houses for everyone ?

I was expecting her to say… vote for me and there will be jam tomorrow.
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August 26, 2017 8:56am
- Inandout
  
  What annoys me is her breathless outpourings of meaningless sound bites.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:15am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    The meaningless sound bites are annoying, BUT market research has shown that there is a huge number of New Zealanders who love and adore meaningless soundbites. Why else would our biggest newspaper give so many column centimetres to writers of the ilk of Lisa Marvelly.
    Our problem is that the huge number of New Zealanders could mushroom into an overwhelming number of New Zealanders. Now, that would be sad.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:29am
    - Inandout
      
      I heard a young caller on an evening talk back saying most young people he knows do not watch the news, don’t read papers, but spend many hours on the net gaming; or watching. They are not the remotest bit interested in politics, so how can Jacinda scoop up this ‘lost’ sector of voters?
      
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      August 26, 2017 9:43am
    - PhilBest
      
      Taihei Notts, that is sadly the truth. A wonk with all the facts and explanations that require voter attention spans of more than 10 seconds, won’t win either the TV debates or the elections.
      
      “Centre right” politicians badly need to get good at sound bites, what we are seeing, is them succumbing to the left’s sound-bite-based successes.
      
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      August 26, 2017 2:51pm
  - KevOB
    
    Communications training. How to pass air without substance.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:48am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      I always thought that was the successful eminination of some particularly odious lower bowel gas that when released, you hope nobody else gets in the lift
      
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      August 26, 2017 10:16am
  - RF
    
    Spot on… “sounds bites”. sums up the flakes sermons from the mount.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:53am
  - Gabby
    
    How often did she mention the previslabagummint downanout.
    
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    August 26, 2017 12:13pm
- MCos
  
  Shock Horror
  
  This must be your first election campaign
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:31am
- KKKKatee
  
  Crikey, even Andy would have been better informed than Jacinda I fear. But, no, Jacinda is the Fairy Godmother in drag waving her magic wand up and down the country promising all sorts and doesn’t have to back up those promises with facts and figures. Promises are what the Labour campaign is all about. Empty ones at that……..
  We all know that Robbo’s sticky fingers are all over the daily dose of promises from Jacinda.
  
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  August 26, 2017 10:13am
  - GazzaW
    
    The mental vision of Robbo’s sticky fingers has put me right off my morning tea.
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:41am
  - Inandout
    
    Messrs Robbo, Helen and Angry are all ‘fingering’ Jacinda, or more correctly puppeteering. She is so naive and soaking in the adoration that I doubt she can feel the strings.
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:43am
    - Flash
      
      Nobody mentions Annette King, who told Hosking that she would be accompanying JA around the hustings. The kindly Grandmother –
      
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      August 26, 2017 11:19am
      - sooty
        
        Along with the other ugly auntie!
        
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        August 26, 2017 12:41pm
      - Inandout
        
        The kindly grandmother who hosts wild gay parties.
        
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        August 26, 2017 1:16pm
    - Gabby
      
      She would be way easier to get at if she isolated herself wouldn’t she downanout.
      
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      August 26, 2017 12:36pm
- wiseowl
  
  RF
  Did you not take note of her saying that people pay for water if on municipal supply.
  That is wrong.
  They pay for the infrastructure in and out, not the water.
  Farmers pay for their own infrastructure and a tax on water would mean they are the only ones paying which is totally unacceptable.
  
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  August 26, 2017 10:53am
  - Gabby
    
    They pay a bit and invite ratepayers to ‘come to the party’.
    
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    August 26, 2017 12:37pm
kowtow

The virtue signalling little shit has fucked up big time.

“She pointed to Trudeau’s viral tweet – sent out shortly after Donald Trump moved to ban travellers from several Muslim-majority countries last January – which read: “To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada.”

“Justin Trudeau has sought to temper the notion that Canada is a guaranteed safe haven for those fleeing the threat of deportation in the United States, as his government faces criticism that its refugee-friendly messaging has given “false hope” to the thousands of asylum seekers streaming into Canada from the US.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/25/justin-trudeau-forced-to-backtrack-on-open-invitation-to-refugees
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August 26, 2017 8:57am
- Inandout
  
  I love it when reality bites a politician on the bum, especially this upstart.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:17am
- Gabby
  
  He may have noticed that some of those claiming to be fleeing persecution, terror & war, aren’t.
  
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  August 26, 2017 12:40pm
Manolo

More peaceful than ever. Today’s Europe.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/25/man-shot-in-brussels-after-knife-attack-on-soldiers-reports

A man who attacked two soldiers with a knife in Brussels is reported to have been shot dead by the army. Authorities said they were treating the attack as a terrorist attempted murder.

The attacker was a man in his thirties, according to state TV channel RTBF, which reported that he cried “Allahu Akbar” at the moment he launched his attack.
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August 26, 2017 9:10am
- simpleton1
  
  Many of us have been told not to josh in an airport about bbbbommmb or exxxpplossion
  
  http://www.businessinsider.com/venice-mayor-luigi-brugnaro-says-people-who-shout-allahu-akbar-in-st-marks-will-be-shot-2017-8/?r=AU&IR=T
  
  Bbbbut Bbbbut But but,
  muslims like to say allahu akbar 🙂
  bbbutt innocent muslims could be shot as they say allahu akbar.
  edit shifted to align on topic of saying “our god is the greatest”
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:39am
- Peter
  
  Motive unknown.
  
  Signed
  
  MSN/Politicians/The entire left wing
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:51am
- Gabby
  
  Can’t be a true islamist, as he went for armed grownups.
  
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  August 26, 2017 12:41pm
Manolo

A strong reason not to visit England: atrocious customs controls:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-4822996/BA-attacks-Home-Office-dreadful-immigration-queues.html

British Airways has launched a stinging attack on the Home Office over ‘dreadful’ immigration queues at airports.

UK nationals and visitors are being forced to wait in lines for more than an hour after arriving on some international flights, according to the carrier.
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August 26, 2017 9:34am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  At Auckland International Airport the longer one waits at immigration controls, the less time one has to wait at the baggage collection area.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:51am
  - Ross12
    
    Disagree TN. I actually think Auckland Airport is a fairly efficient operation. If 3-4 big international flights arrive all at once –yes there is some delays but you get that at any international airport.
    
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    August 26, 2017 9:55am
- jcuk
  
  When I crossed the atlantic the officials were waiting for me to walk to their counter….. but I had a EU [brit] passport. The other counter was hidden by a crowd.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:51am
- simpleton1
  
  I am sure you will get much personal attention if you talked about bombs and explosions.
  Could be a toss up that you get the head of the queue quicker.
  The question is whether the decision would go your way? Tough if you are from the antipodes.
  
  If allahu akbar is called out, then that should speed up the queue.?
  If from a muslim country you could be confident that you will not be returned there and so still gain entry.
  “Worth a crack, Nigel?”
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:52am
  - Paulus
    
    I had an elderly Aussie Aunt who used to come here occasionally – she had it worked out – at Sydney get a wheelchair and attendant – out of here similarly with great support from Air NZ to get through waiting.
    She actually walked quite well, but had a walking stick for effect.
    Never had a problem being wheeled about.
    
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    August 26, 2017 11:01am
    - Gabby
      
      Sort of the Meteria of the airport queue pullus.
      
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      August 26, 2017 12:43pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        You get an uptick for that Gabby. Congratulations for making a statement that is above 6 year old status
        
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        August 26, 2017 6:01pm
    - pdm
      
      Some years ago mrspdm and I were 3 or 4 from the front of a queue which had grown longer behind us at San Fran immigration when a ground crew person bowled up to the front with an Indian (Hindi) lady in a wheelchair. The short, very officious, uniformed, black lady marshaling the queues, immediately made them about turn and return to the back of the increasingly longer queue to the amusement of the rest of us.
      
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      August 26, 2017 2:25pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Lucky for you it wasn’t an Indian (Muslim) woman, or and Indian (Sikh) woman, or an Indian (Christian) woman.
        
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        August 26, 2017 6:23pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    I’ll let you know about that. We fly out tomorrow night to Hawaii. If it works I will do it again on the Honolulu to Alaska leg
    
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    August 26, 2017 5:55pm
kowtow

In their rush to show themselves to be ever so “inclusive” have the PC police in Britain lowered standards for recruits or do members of certain minorities have a culture of immunity , taught to them by the very frightened English Establishment ( Rotherham).

‘Two police officers who plotted to steal and sell drugs for profit have been convicted of drugs and misconduct offences.’

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-41015691

‘A detective has been jailed for filming himself performing a sex act in a child’s bedroom while on duty.’

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-40975669
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August 26, 2017 9:49am
- mikenmild
  
  It was sooo much easier when all the Brits had to worry about was cops being paid off by the criminals. Now, they just let anyone join…
  
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  August 26, 2017 6:26pm
Maggy Wassilieff

$3.4 M in compensation for 22 years in prison after false accusations about satanic sex abuse in day care.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11911220
Wonder if the psychotherapist babblers have ever figured out how all this satanic abuse was happening at the same time in day-care?
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August 26, 2017 9:49am
- realityczech
  
  The psycho-babblers and the police involved should rot in jail until their death.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:53am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  The satanic sex abuse witch hunts of the 90s were instigated by an unholy alliance of feminists and conservative christians.
  
  There are feminists still walking around free today who should be in prison for what they did.
  
  A book from a while back about the Christchurch creche case “A City Possessed”, makes a good read, especially the first chapter detailing how feminists cultivated an atmosphere of “Rape Culture” hysteria to energize political support for their witch hunts against innocent men.
  
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  August 26, 2017 10:27am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I posted a comment on the Stuff article about the US case.
    Just made a comparison with the Chch Civic Creche case…..
    but I’m in moderation…..
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:56am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Oh dear…
      Now you can’t comment at all on this Stuff article.
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/96180391/falsely-accused-of-satanic-horrors-a-us-couple-spent-21-years-in-prison
      
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      August 26, 2017 12:28pm
    - Jack5
      
      Maggy, Justice Minister after Justice Minister (as Governments change) has declined to set up an inquiry into the Christchurch creche case.
      
      Protecting the legal establishment, I guess.
      
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      August 26, 2017 1:42pm
  - realityczech
    
    The “rape culture” lie is alive and well. If Labour get in it will be incorporated into the legal system along with men being assumed guilty if accused of rape. Of course questioning the “victim” too much won’t be allowed either.
    
    I dearly hope the first person tried under that law is a lefty wrongly accused. I will have zero sympathy as he joins hundreds of other wrongly accused men in prison.
    
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    August 26, 2017 11:04am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    I would like to see one party push for justice in the case of Peter Ellis.
    
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    August 26, 2017 11:19am
    - starboard
      
      Peter Ellis was rogered. Huge miscarriage of justice there. Like a festering scab, the Ellis debacle won’t go away until it’s lanced.
      
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      August 26, 2017 11:35am
  - Inandout
    
    Those feminists are now most likely supporting a Muslim’s right to keep his wife in servitude.
    
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    August 26, 2017 1:22pm
- wiseowl
  
  Very similar to what happened with the Ellis case.
  How so many so called intelligent people could not see through the bs is amazing.
  The case still needs exposing for what it was and all the politicians involved owe an apology.
  
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  August 26, 2017 12:32pm
Manolo

Lone wolves everywhere:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/25/buckingham-palace-police-hurt-while-arresting-man

A man armed with a knife was arrested by police outside Buckingham Palace following a disturbance.
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August 26, 2017 9:53am
- simpleton1
  
  It will take some time to find out if he did not take his meds that day. Then to figure if just a lone wolf or a known wolf
  
  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/buckingham-palace-arrest-knifeman-confronted-10488608
  
  no-one was injured in the incident and that it is not thought to be related to terrorism.
  
  “A knife was recovered,” the spokeswoman said. “The man has been taken to a central London police station.”
  
  The poor guy does look confused in the pictures and fortunately the police officers seem to be very helpful.
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:24am
  - Inandout
    
    Confused or just mentally deficient?
    
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    August 26, 2017 1:25pm
  - simpleton1
    
    Apologies for my confusion.
    It could be me Inandout 🙁
    
    That link is for an earlier trouble at Buckingham Palace knife problem on 24th of May this year.
    
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    August 26, 2017 3:15pm
Southern Raider

Just doing some lego friends with the kids

For the airplane kit it comes complete with bag scanner and metal detector

The impacts of Islamists even extends to kids toys
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August 26, 2017 9:54am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  The lone wolf piece will get you at 2.00 am when you get out of bed for a pee and are in bare feet
  
  I know how this works
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:55am
KKKKatee

I watched Ardern in Dunedin promising to build a new hospital starting in February. Now, the dumb voters who adore her could well be thinking that the first sod of earth will be turned come February. Not so. I believe Ardern should have said ”we will be starting the process to build a new Hospital for Dunedin which, of course, begins with engaging with Architects to build a plan, which then need to go before Council for RMA approval. Then once that’s done, then the tender processes begin, not to mention consultation with IWI etc.etc.” ‘In reality”- or ‘realidy’ as Ardern likes to bastardise the English language and use incorrect pronunciation – ” it could very well be 3 years or more before the actual project gets the green light to begin the building process. Oh and we don’t know where we will build it yet or how many beds. I’ll get the Working Group Committee to work out the details because I don’t have any at the moment. My mate, Robbo hasn’t addressed the nitty gritty with me. He just says it would a good idea to gazump National’s promise to build a new hospital and just tell the fans that the build will start in February – but don’t tell them which year”. In ‘realidy’ we wouldn’t be able to do it any sooner than National is promising, but don’t tell our fans that.” I know that, but how many dumb Labour voters afflicted with the Jacindavirus understand that?
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August 26, 2017 9:59am
- Paulus
  
  Taxinderella has said that it will be built in the City presumably on the existing site.
  But that will be in part action as each part is pulled down and replaced over a long time, possibly 10 years in the long term
  Waikato was a shamble in so doing for a long time.
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:07am
- starboard
  
  “Jacindavirus ”
  
  Love it !!
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:29am
- Southern Raider
  
  Doesn’t she have the same supporters giving National shit about Northland bridges only just starting to get built when they have no concept of feasibility, design, consents etc
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:48am
- Gabby
  
  How they say reality in Hong Kong kakty.
  
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  August 26, 2017 12:51pm
Steve (North Shore)

The Nation. Hone Harawira talking some mumbo jumbo in a language that nobody understands. How the hell can he make a point while acting the goat like that?
Children the lot of them, including Owen
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August 26, 2017 10:04am
- Southern Raider
  
  How did Seymour go?
  
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  August 26, 2017 10:05am
- Chuck Bird
  
  One thing of interest was at the end where one of the panel stated that Labour and National had the Greens around 5% on their internal polling. I hope they get 4.9%
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:22am
- Gabby
  
  He’s saying for the love of god won’t someone gift me a seat, Stoive.
  
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  August 26, 2017 12:52pm
realityczech

Big increase in ~~solar panels and windmills~~ coal production. With hundreds of new coal power stations being built the future of the world rests with coal. Coal will secure our way of life and all the developed nations are ramping up the use of coal. Efficient sustainable natural energy for our future. Coal.

BEIJING (AP) — The world’s biggest coal users — China, the United States and India — have boosted coal mining in 2017, in an abrupt departure from last year’s record global decline for the heavily polluting fuel and a setback to efforts to rein in climate change emissions.

Mining data reviewed by The Associated Press show that production through May is up by at least 121 million tons, or 6 percent, for the three countries compared to the same period last year. The change is most dramatic in the U.S., where coal mining rose 19 percent in the first five months of the year, according to U.S. Department of Energy data.

https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2017-06-26/coal-on-the-rise-in-china-us-india-after-record-2016-drop
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August 26, 2017 10:08am
- simpleton1
  
  China has also increased imported coal from the US.
  They signed the Paris agreement so will cut back, eventually, after all those solar panels are made, and the rare earths are mined. yeah right.
  
  They included a surge to several European countries during the 2017 period, including a 175 percent increase in shipments to the United Kingdom, and a doubling to France – which had suffered a series of nuclear power plant outages that required it and regional neighbors to rely more heavily on coal.
  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-coal-exports-idUSKBN1AD0DU
  
  The Europeans taking coal, all signed the Paris deal.
  
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  August 26, 2017 10:20am
  - realityczech
    
    Europeans are turning heavily to coal . Another trick they have is pointing to their windmills while importing coal generated power from a neighbouring country.
    
    All the top developed countries are turning to coal. Japan has 45 new plants planned.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-01-31/japan-coal-power-plants/8224302
    
    Somalia is sticking with windmills and silly solar panels 😆
    
    http://www.lifegate.com/people/lifestyle/somalia-garowe-solar-wind-hybrid-plant
    
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    August 26, 2017 10:45am
    - marcw
      
      Of course Somalia are getting windmills and solar – they are the beneficiaries of the Paris accord, so it’s free money for them to virtue signal with. I read that Pakistan are getting uppity with the UN recently, it appears their $100 billion from Paris is overdue. Those damn nuclear weapons won’t maintain themselves I guess, and you just know how expensive it is to maintain the graft and corruption to stay in charge.
      
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      August 26, 2017 12:10pm
  - Gruffydd
    
    nuclear power
    There is your problem
    Germany has switched them off
    France is having problems
    
    Of course if you read below the fold you get more information.
    
    But he added there are also plenty of reasons the spike in demand could be temporary. For one thing, U.S. coal production and transportation costs are much higher than for other producers such as Indonesia and Australia.
    
    Because coal can often be transhipped from European ports before it is consumed, it is also hard to determine where shipments ultimately end up.
    
    Johnson pointed out that some of the fuel shipped into Western Europe, for example, could be making its way to other places like Ukraine, which is having trouble securing coal from its separatist-held regions.
    
    The USA Coal industry has just gone though a round of bankruptcy with about 50% of miners going bust. How much of that coal is being dumped at a loss to keep the dying industry alive for a few more years ?
    
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    August 26, 2017 11:41am
    - realityczech
      
      Yeah but its bouncing back big time. Did you not see all that evidence ?
      
      Windmill and solar panel salesmen are now reduced to peddling their lies to corrupt African leaders to impose “green” upon their suffering people.
      
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      August 26, 2017 11:44am
    - CJames
      
      The US coal industry is going through a big decline because the generation is being replaced by gas turbines running on fracced gas. The gas price is so low, and the resource so plentiful, that it has revolutionized their energy industry. They are even exporting the gas as LNG.
      The LNG market is big and getting bigger. That is why Russia is building a fleet of icebreaker tankers (they are AR7 rated which is about 8 foot thick ice so serious power) to take gas from Siberia to western Europe across the top) . The Artic conveys of WW2 are back, but going the other way now.
      
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      August 26, 2017 2:23pm
- Paulus
  
  Japan is now going to coal after the Nuclear meltdown – they are all to be shut down and going to coal.
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:08am
  - realityczech
    
    Germany’s Green Energy Policy Disaster
    
    Now investors, workers, and taxpayers are counting their losses from the green energy disaster. E.on’s and RWE’s stocks have lost 80 percent of their value from the old time highs, as the two companies have had to adjust their business model to the green policies. Workers have been losing their jobs, and taxpayers are in for billions of euros…
    
    As of German consumers, they pay one of the highest electricity rates in the developed world.
    
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    August 26, 2017 11:10am
    - realityczech
      
      Meanwhile those sophisticates Somalia 🙂
      
      Somalia: First solar project launched in Puntland
      
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      August 26, 2017 11:13am
  - GazzaW
    
    Great news for the West Coast then. They mine some of the worlds finest coking coal there. Dig it, drill it, mine it, sell it!!
    
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    August 26, 2017 3:45pm
    - realityczech
      
      Exactly. Though they need to build a power station there too.
      
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      August 26, 2017 4:28pm
      - cmm
        
        You don’t want to waste coking coal on power stations.
        
        Rather use the lignite down in Southland.
        
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        August 26, 2017 5:33pm
      - realityczech
        
        Yes lignite is one of my favourite coals due to the amount of life sustaining CO2 it produces.
        
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        August 26, 2017 11:14pm
Happychappy

I just heard James Shaw make the most ridiculous statement about poverty.Shaw says he would love to debate Bill English poverty but has not been given the chance because he is not there, so how come in the last three years has James Shaw got his arse kicked in Parliament by Bill English over any subject he has attacked English on whether Finance Minister or the PM. Shaw is a very weak Green Leader and a disgrace while still advocating Turei’s Fraud was ok.
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August 26, 2017 10:13am
- doggone7
  
  What do you mean by “got his arse kicked”?
  
  In a forum when he asked questions which didn’t have to be answered, like Question Time?
  (Using your line) when any half-arsed response not addressing the question was good enough for the speaker? When any smart-arse reply was okay?
  Because that’s what that situation is about, not addressing the issues because it’s not about addressing issues it’s about kicking arse because the fans aren’t interested in issues like poverty being taken seriously, their neanderthal level sees them only wanting arse-kicking?
  
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  August 26, 2017 10:26am
  - Happychappy
    
    What about the Panama papers condemn the Government and find out the Greens are caught up in hiding a trust to. THen you have the contaminated water in Hawkes Bay and blame cows for it and don’t apologise when your proved wrong so doggone7 take your head out of James Shaws arse it’s clouding your view.
    
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    August 26, 2017 11:37am
  - VicParking
    
    “Do you stand by all your statements” seems to be the only question he knows.
    
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    August 26, 2017 4:45pm
    - Gabby
      
      It looks Barking Vic, but it’s to stop the questions being farmed out to other ministers with (im)plausible deniability.
      
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      August 26, 2017 5:20pm
- Gabby
  
  That’s because Crappy Carter encourages ministers to avoid answering questions truthfully chappy, and approves of nyah nyah you crappy type replies.
  
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  August 26, 2017 12:58pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Gobby maybe should not ask stupid questions and they wouldn’t have to put up with stupid answers, but your pea brain wouldn’t be able to fathom such easy remedies.
    
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    August 26, 2017 1:41pm
    - Gabby
      
      Are crappy stupid questions harder to answer truthfully chappy. Sounds like you’re givng them permission to lie through their brown teeth if they choose to think the questions are stupid. That’s pretty crappy. Chappy.
      
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      August 26, 2017 5:15pm
cmm

Now here’s some moronic thinking:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/95661149/the-future-isnt-going-anywhere-so-why-did-christchurch-rebuild-the-city-of-yesterday

So why didn’t Christchurch rebuild as a 21 C city (complete with inner-city light rail loops and docking stations for flying cars)?

There was a heap of consultation serving up all these ideas, but Christchurch is being rebuilt in the old fashion.

Pretty obvious to anyone with a shred of sense:
Rebuilding in a city where 50% of the buildings are still standing is not the same as going a green-fields building of a new city. Those remaining buildings limit what you can do in your rebuilding. You can’t put in the rail if there is nowhere for it to go.

Those consultation phases generated a lot of stupid ideas, but they also delayed the start of the rebuild by 2 years.
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August 26, 2017 10:39am
- starboard
  
  Ask Hugh, he knows everything about everything
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:39am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    NOW SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!
    
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    August 26, 2017 12:00pm
    - starboard
      
      Sorry. My bad.
      
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      August 26, 2017 12:20pm
Hugh Pavletich

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY PERFORMANCE: LEARNING FROM TEXAS …

How Property Rights Benefit The Poor … Chuck DeVore … Forbes

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2017/08/24/how-property-rights-benefit-the-poor/#438e1957284b

The U.S. Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure, rolled out in 2009 and updated in 2013, addresses the weaknesses of the Official Poverty Measure. Moreover, the Supplemental Poverty Measure (SPM) shows many interesting statistical connections to economic and public policy variables, unlike the Official Poverty Measure. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Texas Is Winning America’s Homebuilding Race … Statista … h/t SW

https://www.statista.com/chart/10736/texas-is-winning-americas-homebuilding-race/

According to new research by Trulia, Texas is leading America’s homebuilding race with Austin, Dallas and Houston collectively on track to build 130,000 new homes this year. That represents 10 percent of all U.S. building permits and nearly as many as 50 large American metro areas combined in 2017. While residential construction is growing in the south, several markets in the northeast of the country are expected to struggle to surpass 500 new homes this year. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Who Will Win the Homebuilding Race of 2017? … Trulia

https://www.trulia.com/blog/trends/homebuilding/
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  … Get the land price wrong … and everything else is wrong …
  
  Brian Gaynor: Building, the industry that got left behind – NZ Herald
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11911412
  
  The poor productivity and performance of the construction and building sector is a major global issue because construction-related spending is approximately US$10 trillion ($13.9t) per annum, equivalent to 13 per cent of world GDP. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  Housing – New Zealand Labour Party
  
  http://www.labour.org.nz/housing
  
  … extract …
  
  Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out
  
  Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds. … read morte via hyperlink above …
  
  NZ GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCEMENT … SEPTEMBER 2012 …
  
  beehive.govt.nz – Govt responds to housing affordability report
  
  https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/govt-responds-housing-affordability-report
  
  Housing Affordability Announcement – 29 October 2012 – YouTube
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuCchEb-XOk
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:27am
  - Peter
    
    Agreed, Hugh.
    
    Texas uses infrastructure bonds. More land is needed.
    
    The fact the left argued against this since the 80s is ironic. The environmentalist town planners and anti-development hippies are almost entirely responsible for high land prices.
    
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    August 26, 2017 11:55am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Peter … Thank you for your comments !
      
      Learning the political realities of this housing performance problem goes back a long time for me … back to the early 1990;s when I was South Island President for the Property Council.
      
      I got land opened up around Christchurch at the time … and learned some very important lessons … the main one being … it aint at its core ideological.
      
      In a nutshell … the housing problem comes about due to ‘institutional failure’ at the local level where the LGs lose control of their costs … and from that the capacity to meet their infrastructure responsibilities and the ability to cope with normal growth.
      
      In contrast … look at normal markets … such as airlines and the cruise industries. With massive growth … remarkably (ha ha) … prices are falling !
      
      I walked through the issues mid last year … RESTORING AFFORDABLE HOUSING: AN ADVOCATES TALE …
      
      http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/definition-of-affordable-housing.html
      
      … and around the same time with Heather du Plessis Allan on radio …
      
      http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Talking-housing-affordability-across-the-globe-with-Hugh-Pavletich/tabid/506/articleID/122978/Default.aspx
      
      As I hopefully made clear at the time of the release of this year’s Demographia Survey 23 January … after near 13 years of solid public discussion … there is a broad consensus in this country …
      
      http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2017/01/auckland-worlds-fourth-hardest-to-buy.html
      
      … but we desperately need long overdue POLITICAL ACTION.
      
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      August 26, 2017 12:34pm
    - Jack5
      
      Peter notes in his 11.55 post: “Texas uses infrastructure bonds.”
      
      America’s infrastructure bonds, through tax exemptions, are often a way for the central government to subsidise local infrastructure.
      
      They typically offer tax exemptions as subsidies. This appeals to investors who already pay tax, but not, for example, to foreigners who do not already have US tax on which to use the exemptions, or to some American tax-exempt investors (an NZ equivalent might be Ngai Tahu group).
      
      States and local authorities also issue tax-exempt bonds. American cities and states have debt of $US3.5 trillion outstanding.
      
      Before we get excited about infrastructure bonds for NZ, we need to consider that they are debt, and likely debt that will be underpinned by State guarantees, and if not, then by final recourse to put a special rate on ratepayers in any default. We need to consider that to get the money in to lend there will very likely also be tax incentives.
      
      If NZ local bodies can’t raise money by present ways of issuing local body bonds, what does this tell you about why State backing, subsidies, or guarantees will be needed for infrastructure bonds?
      
      Just because America does it, doesn’t mean that this isn’t socialism in another of its many guises.
      
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      August 26, 2017 1:33pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        There is access to further information opn Texas Municipal Utility Districts (MUDs) / bond financing down the left column of my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org
        
        This should have been in place in New Zealand decades ago.
        
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        August 26, 2017 2:35pm
  - Colville
    
    Hugh.
    Until council planners are required to ask ‘how can I help?’ as the first thing out of their mouths at a pre lodgement meeting then nothing will change IMHO.
    
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    August 26, 2017 4:37pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Colville … excellent point !
      
      Check out this earlier Kiwiblog General Debate post … and articles from this time last year …
      
      NEW ZEALAND: BASIC ‘NUTS & BOLTS’
      HOUSING PERFORMANCE INFORMATION REQUIRED
      
      http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/06/general_debate_30_june_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1960805
      
      The selected residential consent numbers May for the following territorial areas were …
      
      Building Consents Issued
      
      http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/industry_sectors/Construction/BuildingConsentsIssued_HOTPMay17.aspx
      
      New Zealand … 2794
      Auckland … 885
      Tauranga … 110
      Wellington … 67
      Christchurch … 225
      Waimakariri … 56
      Selwyn … 138
      
      The finance focused website Interest Co NZ rather surprisingly still just repeats these raw numbers … … read more via hyperlink above …
      
      The rate at which new homes are being built relative to our population size is less than half what it was in 1974 | interest.co.nz
      
      http://www.interest.co.nz/property/83282/rate-which-new-homes-are-being-built-relative-our-population-size-less-half-what-it
      
      Despite huge housing shortfall, Auckland consents per capita only middling | Stuff.co.nz
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/83682402/Despite-huge-housing-shortfall-Auckland-consents-per-capita-only-middling
      
      Six new homes for every thousand Kiwis …August 2016 … Statistics New Zealand
      
      http://m.stats.govt.nz/tools_and_services/media-centre/media-releases-2016/six-new-homes-every-thous-kiwis.aspx
      
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      August 26, 2017 5:43pm
      - realityczech
        
        You are making some big claims there Hugh. Got any links ?
        
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        August 26, 2017 5:51pm
      - mikenmild
        
        That’s better, Kea. See, when you try, you can still be funny.
        
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        August 26, 2017 5:53pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Check out the posts here too guys … and what PhilBest has to say below this …
      
      http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/08/nzs_labour_force_participation_rate.html/comment-page-1#comment-2003086
      
      Hugh Pavletich
      
      Copy of an earlier post of mine …
      
      LOW COST FREIGHT TRANSPORT, AIR TRAVEL & CRUISING … WHY ISNT THERE AFFORDABLE HOUSING EVERYWHERE TOO ?
      
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      August 26, 2017 6:29pm
realityczech

Benjamin Netanyahu is Israel’s Donald Trump

The Washington Post has more anti Trump articles per page than any other I have seen. They are really getting desperate for new fake-news material 🙂
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August 26, 2017 11:40am
- Jack5
  
  I see the Washington Post articles frequently repeated in Stuff (formerly called Fairfax NZ) newspapers.
  
  I don’t recall ever seeing anything reprinted in them from Fox News, though.
  
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  August 26, 2017 1:40pm
  - realityczech
    
    They take TDS to a new level. There is barely any room for other than anti Trump propaganda messages.
    
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    August 26, 2017 2:00pm
Herodotus

Should Labour lead the next government how, when will Nat not be responsible for the building industries collapse ?
Spent the last 2 weeks trying to get builders to pay their accounts for materials. There is a large amount of stress and no cash flow out there to allow the bills to be paid !! 🙁
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August 26, 2017 11:47am
- Happychappy
  
  Herodotus : Where is your business not in Haast by any chance.
  
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  August 26, 2017 2:28pm
  - Herodotus
    
    Auckland- with emphasis centrally
    Been in the industry 30+ years , fortunate to only experienced 2 down turns late 80’s (far more impact than that caused by the GFC) and GFC, could count late 90’s as well.
    Builders are making similar $ profits on a Spec as was the case in 2002-4. But back then a building package was $350-$400k for a $50-$75k GP, now the costs are $1m+ for $50-$100k. So the consequence of holding onto a house has greater implications, and with the tight margins any price reductions very quickly can turn a nice profit to a loss, perhaps fine on one case but many small independent builders will have 2-3 on the go. It can turn very unpleasant quickly.
    
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    August 26, 2017 3:01pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Bullshit. I work in the marine industry indirectly. the money is flowing to the extent that new businesses are starting up. NZ won the Americas Cup, watch NZ boom – it all has a trickle down effect for those who make the wheels of this Country turn
  
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  August 26, 2017 6:22pm
RF

Breaking news….. urgent request from the Labour Party.

They urgently need more printing ink as they are
working over time printing money to pay for Taxcindas election promises.

These include the last one to pay $8.00 for medical visits.

They are spending up large like a drunken sailor.
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August 26, 2017 12:17pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  I am paying $18.00 in Warkworth. I do not have a community card and I also, surprise, surprise pay tax.
  The surgery has all the bells and whistles expected today.
  
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  August 26, 2017 1:37pm
Fletch

More bribery – Jacinda promises to lower the cost of visits to the doctor by a further $10.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/jacinda-ardern-announces-labour-cut-gp-visits-further-10

I wonder where the money is coming from for this.
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August 26, 2017 12:45pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Wonder no more Fletch.
  It’s coming from you.
  TWO TICKS BLUE !!!
  
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  August 26, 2017 1:03pm
  - Fletch
    
    Yup, someone should tell Jacinda, as Dr Phil’s dad once told Phil when he was a boy, “Your mouth is writing cheques your ass can’t cash”.
    
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    August 26, 2017 1:07pm
- calendar girl
  
  Remember Helen Clark? Whose protegé Ardern is making all these uncosted spending promises?
  
  It was Clark’s administration that implemented the present primary healthcare cost structure under which some General Practices receive much higher subsidies for patient consultations, based on their local area’s perceived lower economic status – as ‘determined’ from census data. I know one couple where the husband pays $18 for a visit to his GP, while his wife has to pay $36 to visit her long-time GP working in a nearby suburban practice on the fringes of a modern housing area of greater affluence.
  
  Clark knows precisely how her primary healthcare system works at GP level in crudely classifying urban areas as ‘filthy rich’ or ‘desperately poor’. She will also know fairly accurately how much it would cost to subsidise GP consultation fees by an extra $10 per visit. Will Labour tell us what this ‘policy is likely to cost per annum? Of course not, because it would then have to explain where the money is coming from – in advance on another ‘panel of experts’ being convened after the Election to advise on the detail.
  
  I’ve said before that Helen Clark has her fingers everywhere in this Election campaign. Ardern’s announcement on one of Clark’s former pet interest areas (GP charges to patients), convinces me further that Clark is running the Labour ship from behind the scenes.
  
  The future President Clark of the New Zealand Republic?
  
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  August 26, 2017 3:23pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “The future President Clark of the New Zealand (banana) Republic?”
    
    That is a horrific thought but I fear you might be right.
    TWO TICKS BLUE !!!
    
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    August 26, 2017 3:36pm
    - Gabby
      
      TULIXPU !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!
      
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      August 26, 2017 4:58pm
  - MCos
    
    “Will Labour tell us what this ‘policy’ is likely to cost per annum?” With a bit of help from google I found this: http://www.labour.org.nz/gp_fees
    I also read somewhere this morning that Middlemore A & E is so overwhelming that there is an eight hour wait. That hospital is in a low income part of Auckland & I would imagine a lot of people go there because it’s free whereas they could just as easily go to the doctor and fork out eighteen bucks or full fees on the weekend.
    
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    August 26, 2017 4:12pm
    - VicParking
      
      This morning it was $260 million per year.
      
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      August 26, 2017 4:53pm
  - Gabby
    
    Surely there is no one among you who wants to see Jones come back?
    
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    August 26, 2017 4:59pm
gorse

I see Labour is making doctors visits almost free for some, won’t be long and they’ll be paying you to go to see the Doctor. Spending money like there’s no tomorrow.
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August 26, 2017 1:03pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  No, small correction, Labour will expect the Drs to pay you to go and see them.
  
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  August 26, 2017 1:34pm
RF

Checked CNN to see what was happening to the hurricane in Texas.

Silly me. Trump had pardoned Sheriff Joe today so CNN were devoting 99% of their news to this.

The howls of outrage. Jeez it reminds me of the left in NZ. Snow flakes.

BTW…..Fox has very good coverage of the storm.
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August 26, 2017 1:03pm
- Fletch
  
  Yeh, if Bill Clinton can pardon members of FALN, and Obama can pardon traitor Bradley Manning as well as terrorist Oscar López Rivera (also a member of FALN) then I don’t see what the big deal is. Those presidents and others have pardoned many criminals more undeserving that Sheriff Joe.
  
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  August 26, 2017 1:12pm
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    And Obama pardoned himself for all those times he misgendered ~~Michael~~ Michelle.
    
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    August 26, 2017 1:34pm
- All_on_Red
  
  CNN: President Trump’s handling of Hurricane Harvey was disastrous.
  
  Oops! That was supposed to be saved in draft up until after the storm..
  
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  August 26, 2017 2:14pm
  - Gruffydd
    
    FEMA Disaster Programs at Risk of Major Cuts by Trump
    
    The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is facing reductions in funding for its most critical programs. These include reductions of several disaster response and preparedness programs and a complete elimination of funding for floodplain mapping. Taken together, the cuts would severely undermine FEMA’s effectiveness—at a time we need it to be strengthened not weakened.
    
    Too late All on Red your favorite fuckwit has trashed FEMA already.
    
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    August 26, 2017 3:19pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Hey Stalker,
      You’re the fuckwit. Here’s a link to the Whitehouse announcing all sorts of federal funding and aid for the Hurricane. Far faster than Obama ever did.
      https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/273907/
      Oh look FEMA is already there and ready to help.
      https://www.fema.gov/news-release/2017/08/25/federal-government-mobilized-support-federal-state-local-and-tribal-partners
      Better than your Citation free post huh.
      Gee, another day, another example of you getting butt hurt, eh DKhead.
      Too stupid to know you’re stupid.
      Hahahahahahahahaah
      
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      August 26, 2017 4:24pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        butt hurt
        Are you telling me trump does not want to cut FEMA funding now?
        Can you cite that ?
        Google Trump FEMA will bring up plenty of talk about him wanting to cut funding to pay for ” The wall”.
        
        Opps its all fake news of it contradicts whatever today’s dribble is. Even if its from his whackos twitting account .
        
        Its Trump policy = whoever last talked to him.
        
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        August 26, 2017 4:33pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Lol, Griff doesn’t provide a citation for his claim but then demands a Citation from me to disprove it!
        Now there’s a moronic argument.
        So funny.
        Looks like FEMA and Trump are doing fine helping the Hurricane victims- Which was what my post was about you dummy. Read my CITATIONS where it’s all written down. I hope the words aren’t too big for you.
        Fuck you’re thick.
        Have another spliff.
        Hey, you really should go to those Anger Management classes. Lol
        
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        August 26, 2017 4:41pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        Thats it All On Red ?
        All you have for being upset for weeks is Griff smokes pot
        Dear dear.
        
        https://www.bloomberg.com/…/trump-fema-chief-supports-cutting-coverage-for-floo…
        
        https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/trump-budget…of…/520512/Mar 23, 2017 – Last week, President Trump released the broad outlines of his … Under the proposed budget, FEMA would sustain cuts in funding for state, …
        
        https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/03/…/trump…cuts…fema…/story.html
        Mar 9, 2017 – The Trump administration is considering deep cuts in the budgets of the Coast Guard, the Transportation Security Administration, and the …
        
        Etc etc etc
        
        Now trump is grand standing scoring points off disaster when he really wants to cut the money that funds FEMA to build the stupid wall….
        
        As to the rest
        BUTT HURT.
        D Trump is a reality TV caricature of a successful business man. It was an act.
        soooo funny and its friends with the loonytune and all.
        
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        August 26, 2017 4:56pm
DifferentPerspective

Proof that there is a God

Watch this, gas can to the left testicle, I could watch this all day!
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August 26, 2017 1:31pm
- Southern Raider
  
  That’s brilliant
  
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  August 26, 2017 3:21pm
fluffykiwi

Jacinda obviously still believes in Santa clause, her parents should be ashamed they have not advised her differently.
Her electioneering looks like her list of “wants” that she would write to Santa.
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August 26, 2017 1:39pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Yeah, “where’s my fucking bike Santa?”
  No, not that bit of shit – my brand new Harley like the monkey mob ride
  
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  August 26, 2017 6:42pm
Manolo

Pious, virtuous, moronic:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-agrees-to-wait-on-calorie-counts-for-convenience-stores-1503699207?mod=e2tw

New York City will not proceed with new regulations that would force convenience and grocery stores to include calorie counts for prepared foods, at least for now.
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August 26, 2017 2:30pm
Inandout

I see the DoomPost has given Al Gore’s sequel 4 stars. Thus far it has made $2 million at the box office versus $5 million on the first one’s time frame.

‘In Al Gore’s latest cinematic dose of climate scaremongering, a young Asian man is crying.

“I feel so scared” he wails, before vision of solicitous uncle Al patting his hand in an attempt to soothe away his fears of the apocalypse.

Scaremongering is what Gore does best, and fear is the business model that has made him rich, though his every apocalyptic scenario has failed to materialise’.
Daily Telegraph

Chunder material.
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August 26, 2017 3:15pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I don’t think Gore has to worry if his film is a flop.
  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-making-of-a-businessman-how-al-gore-got-rich/
  
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  August 26, 2017 3:24pm
  - Gruffydd
    
    Here is one for you Maggy dear .
    http://www.climatehustle.org/
    Sunk without a trace after the paid premiers.
    Not many could bothered with such a pile of fuckwhittery from a bunch of cranks.
    
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    August 26, 2017 3:37pm
  - realityczech
    
    I rather like apocalyptic sci-fi, but Gore’s movies are just too implausible and over the top. Gore does have a small cult following among drug users I believe.
    
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    August 26, 2017 3:45pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Amazing the morons who still believe him. Drug f***ed losers no doubt.
      
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      August 26, 2017 4:31pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Here’s an oldy but a goody. Our very own Griffy get some serious BUTTHURT on the most popular science blog in the world.
        How embarrassing- fun for us though! Lol
        here’s a sample.
        ‘Griff,
        That’s called a straw-man argument. Look it up. The fact that you would stoop to such tactics means that you have no cogent arguments. This is why you are mostly ignored here.’
        
        ‘Anyone ever notice how Griff, just loses perspective of the article and discussion then wanders off in his hunt for assumptions and conspiracies?
        If his writing was a little more obtuse, he could be Loserandownsky researching his next fabrications.’
        
        ‘I gather, that you Griff, with your usual total lack of reading comprehension did not read the comments.’
        
        ‘Absolute confirmation that griffypoo, never reads the articles or most comments.
        Read the article griffy, before making grossly wrong statements’
        
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        August 26, 2017 4:54pm
  - Manolo
    
    Dear Maggy, please do not speak ill of rotund Al Gore, Griff’s idol and hero.
    
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    August 26, 2017 6:48pm
- Longknives
  
  I’m old enough to remember Tipper and Al trying to get Rock Music banned in the early 80s!
  All Rock musicians were Devil Worshippers you see…
  Bullshitters then and Bullshitters now.
  
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  August 26, 2017 3:24pm
- Peter
  
  “I feel so scared” he wails. An understandable reaction if Gore was nearby.
  
  Meanwhile, the audience for Al’s climate mythology is going through the floor
  
  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/25/climate-skeptics-rebuttal-book-outselling-al-gores/
  
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  August 26, 2017 3:38pm
  - Gruffydd
    
    Yes peter a myth
    Endorsed by every major scientific body on the planet
    That makes you a gibbering loony
    You don’t mind if I Point that out do you ?
    
    See we will place it in context.
    Today I hope to see a few Texans drowned and laugh my arse off as the sea trashes community’s
    I find it funny because that’s the future they seem to want and the one science is warning us about.
    
    I watched sandy seep into the subways.
    50mm of water set of some amazing pyrotechnics as the transformers exploded .
    The last few decades of sea Level rise was enough to change the effect of sandy from some nuisance surface water to closing down the city.
    
    Twenty years in the future ?
    Dont buy beach front in Miami..
    
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    August 26, 2017 3:59pm
    - realityczech
      
      “I watched sandy seep”
      
      LOL 🙂 yeah because hurricanes never happened before in the hurricane season in hurricane regions.
      
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      August 26, 2017 4:06pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        LOL
        Because physics.
        Hurricane storms are heat engines.
        Warm sea water is the power source for hurricanes.
        Global warming means the water is warmer.
        The storms can get more powerful .
        
        Warmer air holds more moisture .
        Warmer air means the storm holds more rainfall potential.
        
        Sea levels are rising due to global warming .
        A few extra mm can be the difference between water at the door and water covering the floor .
        
        This storm and all storms are potentially more damaging due to global warming…
        
        Meantime squawk ..Eh Kea .
        
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        August 26, 2017 4:21pm
      - realityczech
        
        Chuckle … so now both warm weather and hurricanes are a brand new thing Griffy ?
        
        Oh deary me ! 😆
        
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        August 26, 2017 4:31pm
      - marcw
        
        Yet this is the first for 12 years – a record delay between hits on the US mainland. Apocalypse !!!!
        
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        August 26, 2017 5:15pm
Inandout

http://d29l8fj0bhi1tg.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/04044344/perfectly-timed-photos-part2-6.jpg

Jacinda’s wedding day.
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August 26, 2017 3:52pm
Southern Raider

I’m hoping I’ll wake up from this nightmare

Ready the “news” is becoming depressing due to lack of integrity of our media

– Jacinda is now a tsunami hitting Auckland
– half of NZ will get $8 doctors visits but when you look at the final sentence this is only at the very very low cost medical centres who take up the extra funding
– Fair Pay Agreements is likely to lead to nationwide industrial action but the media isn’t grilling labour on the details
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August 26, 2017 3:53pm
doggone7

Just been through the lot on here. Weather’s just clearing up so out on the mate’s farm to check out his effluent pond. It’ll be a lot more savoury than what’s on here.
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August 26, 2017 3:58pm
- realityczech
  
  Not to worry, your erudite comment should raise the tone of the place immensely.
  
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  August 26, 2017 4:01pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  A mistaken up vote I thought you were referring to the Labour Party, not the comment, although some definitely fall into the dirty effluent pond type. Jacinda will sort it she will tax them.
  
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  August 26, 2017 4:52pm
Piniwi

We can’t really expect the left sheeple to do the math. National have pulled the cost of Doctor visits back to $18 that is a modest amount when fags are way over that price. Also an Steven Joyce pointed out already covered from the minimum $26 those same community card holders will get from April 2018. Every week that is or $1352 per annum. That would be enough to go twice week to the Doctor for free!
Taxinda has countered by nocking another $10 off the cost which they have no idea how much it will cost. Sure to be covered by one or other of their new taxes.
It really dose illustrate how short sighted it was for Labour to reject the Budget 2017 provisions to give 1.3million people a better share. Lest we forget all those people who will get a great boost in income next April. Do your bit also to reduce child poverty by 30% as a result of these tax adjustments and extra benefits kick in. Tick Two 4 Blue.
NB. The child poverty number is theoretically based on the GROSS median income so this is a massive reduction.
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August 26, 2017 4:21pm
- Southern Raider
  
  It’s interesting that if you look at the announcement the Labour Party has referenced the National party policy to show what the saving is eg from $18 to $8, not from the current amount to $8
  
  It clearly shows just like Dunedin Hospital that Labour has no policies outside of CGT, water tax and Fair Pay and so for the rest is just trying to copy National and make it more
  
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  August 26, 2017 4:31pm
- Gabby
  
  LikPu4Yu
  
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  August 26, 2017 6:54pm
fluffykiwi

Jacinda. She appears on a roll. However I liken it to all the excitement prior to a wedding, prior to the birth of a baby. The bridesmaid’s parties, the baby showers, all those presents, the new dress, the hair, the makeup, the photos, oh those photos, the day itself.
THEN unfortunately there is the day after and the bills that you forgot, did the dress really cost that much, my aunty would have made it cheaper, what are we going to do with that wedding recording? Shivers, we had “sex” before we married and produced the child, did we really need the white wedding. We are in our 30’s after all, not young and virginal. Oh the nightmare. Now I have to actually get up and cook breakfast, the ironing, and go to work, how am I going to manage. My husband was much more fun when he was a partner. He is useless. On and on.
Oh I know a good idea, we can get divorced, and wipe the wedding recording.
If only life was that simple the “bride” asks.
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August 26, 2017 4:38pm
Ross12

This confirms it, the idiots in the USA have completely lost the plot

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/memphis-theater-cancels-showing-gone-wind-alt-left-complains-racism/
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August 26, 2017 5:04pm
- realityczech
  
  What do you expect after 2 terms of that disgusting animal Obama.
  
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  August 26, 2017 5:13pm
  - Gabby
    
    It was cunning of him to get them to delay complaining until he left office eh czitty.
    
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    August 26, 2017 6:57pm
    - realityczech
      
      He ran on a race card and supported racist groups even as those groups carried out killings against whites. Under his regime we saw the rise of race riots and violence. Intolerance is at an all time high.
      
      Trump has done a great job in a few months but it will take more time to fix what Obama did to America.
      
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      August 26, 2017 7:23pm
Chuck Bird

I got 20 out of 24 on this US citizenship test. I would what US born citizens would get. I think a bit lower judging by Watter’s World on Fox.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/quiz/2015/feb/11/us-citizenship-test-could-you-pass/score/?correct=20
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August 26, 2017 5:57pm
RF

Greg O’Connor the Labour flip flopper has been lording that he is a true West Coaster with his labour roots in Blackball, the true heart of Labour.

Utter bull shit. O’Connor comes from Westport and a true West Coaster will have great pleasure to tell you that Westport is in the Buller district and not the West Coast.

Plonker…….
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August 26, 2017 6:30pm
- Longknives
  
  O’Connor is an ineffective wanker who talks up a storm RF.
  Ask any Ex-Cop…
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:21pm
Manolo

Europe’s Italy or another African country?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-rome-idUSKCN1B40R3

Police using water cannon and batons clashed on Thursday with refugees who had occupied a small Rome square in defiance of an order to leave a building where they had been squatting.

The clashes were the latest example of tensions in Italy as the country deals with an influx of migrants. They quickly became fodder for political debate, particularly on the police handling of the incident.
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August 26, 2017 6:44pm
Interested

Have to say how disappointing John Banks is with this paternity case. Many years have gone by so there is no need to deny his son (presuming he is) http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz…
These days there is no shame in having an extra child turn up and his reputation is going down the drain more because of his actions.
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August 26, 2017 7:03pm
- Kimbo
  
  Tell that to Chuck Bird – he hasn’t denied being the father, and in what looks like a classic piece of distraction, was demanding to know why John Banks wasn’t doing so…
  
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  August 26, 2017 7:17pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    I do not think there is any chance of me being your father Kimbo. No offspring of mine would be so stupid.
    
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    August 26, 2017 8:11pm
Southern Raider

Left media has found one still in the 2min Nationa promotional video that looks like a guy has his hand behind a girls back and are claiming the ponytail gate has come back to haunt National

These editors shouldn’t even be running a kindergarten kids newsletter
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August 26, 2017 7:16pm
Southern Raider

Seymour has put a stack in the ground and is now far left enemy number one

ACT will make sure beneficiaries who have additional kids will be severely financially penalised

About time
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August 26, 2017 7:17pm
- realityczech
  
  It is not really a penalty. It is a choice. The penalty for single mums is taken from tax payers.
  
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  August 26, 2017 7:20pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  Go David Seymour, you are on a roll. Time to be sensibly tough which is what you are suggesting. Look after those who can’t but expect those who can to do so. That goes for women, there is no reason for extra children you cannot provide for in today’s world, there is such a thing as contraception and it is available free for those who need.
  I do not wish to provide for your children, I have looked after my own and they are now tax paying citizens.
  By the way I am a woman. Not one of those white males who seem to be responsible for all ills in this world.
  What a joke the left is.
  
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  August 26, 2017 7:41pm
big bruv

The rugby must be about to start, the gurning fool who is apparently the captain of the NZ team is waving his arms in the air and sticking his tongue out. It’s time to change the channel, that rain dance is a national embarrassment.
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August 26, 2017 7:53pm
- mikenmild
  
  But you must be looking forward to the world cup final tomorrow morning.
  
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  August 26, 2017 8:16pm
Jack5

The sooner we all speak Maori and Maori alone, the safer it will be to visit London.

“Met.” chief says London police may prioritise calls from non-English speakers over those of English speakers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4823870/Police-chief-says-non-English-speaking-victims-priority.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4823870/Police-chief-says-non-English-speaking-victims-priority.html
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August 26, 2017 7:54pm
Nookin

Please, please make this SBW’s last test. And take him off now!!!
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August 26, 2017 9:13pm
Nookin

Too late. He did it again.
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August 26, 2017 9:15pm
Southern Raider

Anyone else noticed in some of the photos and videos how gaunt Jacinda is looking?
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August 26, 2017 9:16pm
- RF
  
  Jacinda is currently racked with self doubt and very stressed.
  
  She does not cope.
  
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  August 26, 2017 9:39pm
- Longknives
  
  She looks terrible…This campaign seems to be taking it’s toll.
  Makes me wonder how she will cope with the pressure in the Big Chair..
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:18pm
Monique Watson

Re Jacinda. She could be pregnant but probably is just on the rags.
I have a certain amount of sympathy and half a bottle of champagne.
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August 26, 2017 9:35pm
- Kimbo
  
  Not gin?! 😉
  
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  August 26, 2017 11:42pm
Monique Watson

Makes a change in the routine from coffee and doughnuts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLeHQFBMtmk
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August 26, 2017 10:14pm
RF

Good news for Taxcinda. School kids have given her the thumbs up for her soup.

This means she can team up with the SAS cook from NZ First and go into business when she gives up the Labour job.
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August 26, 2017 10:47pm
Jack5

How safe for humans are the various diseases – viruses, I think – released in NZ to reduce the rabbit population.

Here are bacterial infections crossing from rabbits to infect humans:

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/08/25/rabbit-dog-human-how-one-bacterial-infection-spread.html
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August 27, 2017 12:07am
- Jack5
  
  Here’s a link to an Australian report which gives confidence viruses released to control rabbits have been safe for people – two brave Aussie scientists even injected myxoma virus into themselves to prove it doesn’t kill humans.
  
  However, the virus’s deadly effect on rabbits seems to last only about 20 years so there will be continuing hunts for viruses to kill the pests.
  
  Let’s hope the agriculture scientists don’t ever stuff it up and let loose something viral that may spread to humans.
  
  https://csiropedia.csiro.au/myxomatosis-to-control-rabbits/
  
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  August 27, 2017 12:20am
Manolo

Why would the Argentinian Peronist be worried?
https://apnews.com/60da98c7f4794ffc84872a1a8911d327/Vatican-No.-2:-Anti-pope-jihadist-attack-threat-is-worrying

Pope Francis’ top aide says a pro-Islamic State group video that targets the pope is worrying but notes Vatican security is already at a high level.
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