General Debate 10 August 2017

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dishy

The idea that it took a perennial lardarse to finally give a voice to the destitute beneficiary with elastic morals was always implausible. And that’s me being kind.

I’m not talking here about the distended belly of the malnourished. I’m a sweaty fat fuck myself, so I know one when I see one. And that’s swearing, is that.

And how deliciously ironic is it that that same idea does such a great disservice to John Campbell and his other media luvvies, who have long been championing the so-called poor in New Zealand without ever having a credible case study of absolute poverty (cf. relative poverty).

Beggars in the street have smartphones, and all the access they want to social media and a fawning, uncritical, lazy MSM – why do they need a con artist to speak for them?

We were being asked to believe that notwithstanding the efforts, over 10 or more years, by Campbell and co., Turei had finally – where others had failed – shone a light on what’s apparently so wrong with our welfare system.

Shame on you Turei, for throwing your whanau under the bus in a dishonest attempt to excuse your theft and score political points in the process.

Shame on you Shaw, you coward, for showering yourself in Turei’s shit. Thanks to you, the stench will outlive her departure.

And shame on you Marvelly and all the other enablers, who worsen the plight of the deserving by cheerleading the bullshitting, entitled, thieving and undeserving.
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August 10, 2017 8:00am
- Kimbo
  
  I believe we have just heard the voice of “Waitakere Man”.
  
  Great post, dishy, and authentic. Please post more often, especially as first cabbie off the rank for the day.
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:07am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Awesome post dishy – I wish I could give it more than just one uptick!
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:27am
- Im Right
  
  Good points, but never forget the SJW of the left will NEVER blame the poll slump on Meteria as it will always be the fault of the media and of course ‘white men’…never Metiria! The delicious part of all this is that it was Checkpoint (John Campbell) that broke her, bet you wont even get that mentioned on leftie blogs that red radio did what the mainstteam MSM failed to do!
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:39am
  - sooty
    
    Yes, she got in before the family shafted her! I bet shes not invited around for christmas dinner! I think it’s fitting that Campbell put the nail in the coffin. Even if he went gently, poor didims, you were only looking after your poor baby.
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:47am
    - Nosmo King
      
      Yes, I bet they will be chiming “Go, walk out the door. Just turn around now. ‘Cause you’re not welcome anymore” to her.
      
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      August 10, 2017 9:09am
    - RalphT
      
      I think she might get an invite for Xmas dinner – as the turkey.
      
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      August 10, 2017 9:12am
      - Biscuit
        
        Ralph, imagine the weeks and weeks of leftovers a fattened Me Tu turkey would provide!
        
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        August 10, 2017 10:03am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Yes the apparently right wing media that i was reading about the other day.
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:30am
- NK
  
  #IFallWithMetiria.
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:40am
  - artemisia
    
    #IFailWithMetiria?
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:53am
  - Huevon
    
    [Repost]
    
    Try to avoid being underneath…
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:55am
    - Nosmo King
      
      Then it will become #ImSquashedByMetiria
      
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      August 10, 2017 1:39pm
  - Nosmo King
    
    More like #IStinkWithMetiria
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:11am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Or #IStoodWithMetiriaAndLookWhereItGotMe
    
    That could become James Shaws’ epitaph 😎
    
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    August 10, 2017 11:02am
- Peter
  
  It’s the final irony that she achieved the complete opposite of what she wanted.
  
  She reminded New Zealanders why there are checks and balances in the welfare system – to catch out people who fraud the system.
  
  So, if anything, New Zealanders are convinced the existing checks and balances may well be insufficient, and should be ramped up.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:01am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  100 up-ticks. That has to be a record…
  
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  August 10, 2017 6:07pm
  - Colville
    
    I have never seen it before.
    Well deserved too.
    
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    August 10, 2017 6:20pm
  - Scorpion
    
    How prepared are Japan For the Upcoming War on China
    
    How do you think it will go
    
    Will the invade Nuke or Just Humiliate
    
    Just Wondering Japan is the First Line of Defence?
    
    When it goes off and it will?
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:41pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Wow, that’s the first post I’ve seen on here that’s gone past 100 upticks.
  dishy, you are a legend.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:28pm
Padriv Ustoev

If My Little Pony manages to pull off a Justin Trudeau.

What would be the likely consequences for the average NZer and on the larger scale for the country as a whole?
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August 10, 2017 8:05am
- sHr0oMaN
  
  Higher milk prices for a start
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:50am
  - kowtow
    
    Not just milk , everything with a water input .
    
    Not to mention many more of Padrivs cousins being given residency.
    
    Here’s a family portrait and a picture of things to come.
    
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4775164/Police-paid-child-rapist-10k-spy-sex-parties.html
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:03am
- Gabby
  
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  Padrivel would get a free ponytail to fondle, so the terrorism threat would fall. Ice cream for all!
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:06am
- EAD_TWO
  
  @ Padriv,
  
  I’ve gone grown very, very cynical of all Politicians over the past few year but there is something about the likes of Arden, Macron and Trudeau that really grates me.
  
  It’s not just their Politics, it the fact that they really are inferior, c list candidates that have been foisted upon us.
  
  They are absolute lightweights with no gravitas whatsoever who haven’t thought one intelligent thought in their entire lives.
  
  They are foisted on the public by the MSM as being “cool” and this seems to be enough to attract the reality tv watching, Social Media posting unthinking idiots of today in droves.
  
  Just look at this shit from Trudeau last month:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJTNut1VSEw
  
  WHAT. A. GRADE-A. TOSSER
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:10am
- pdm
  
  Padriv
  
  All of the following plus a stuffed economy.
  
  * Higher taxes
  * Higher interest rates
  * Increased Petrol prices
  * Higher food prices
  * Rampant inflation
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:12am
- softail 1450
  
  according to Trudeau “lower taxes for the middle class ” the cuck has said it a million times in their parliamentary question time .
  
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  August 10, 2017 12:17pm
mandk

Has Shaw resigned yet?
He explicitly condoned what MeTu did and gave her his full support throughout.

And why hasn’t Ardern stopped tacitly supporting benefit fraud?
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August 10, 2017 8:08am
- cmm
  
  As I said yesterday, the shitstorm is not really over how somebody rorted the welfare system 20+ years ago. It is really about how it was all handed in 2017.
  
  And that falls right at the feet of the entire Green caucus – especially Shaw.
  
  The air is not going to clear until at least Shaw is also gone.
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:14am
  - KevOB
    
    Getting 5% for the Greens is a failure for justice. Skinned watermelons revealed as SJW’s. AKA anarchists.
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:52am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I think you are unfair to vilify Shaw.
    The man was brought up by his mother and her wife. He had no show, and deserves our sympathy, not vilification.
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:33am
    - RF
      
      Nah… Shaw should be next to go. Whilst I’m whacking a stake into the ground can someone gather some kindling wood.
      
      He’s dreaming if he believes life will return to normal for the Greens. They will not recover or be forgiven that easily if the comments from my sister in law are an indication. She feels betrayed after supporting Crooked Metiria and now having me telling her, I told you so……
      
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      August 10, 2017 9:45am
      - Biscuit
        
        The whole Green image is tainted beyond repair, heh heh..
        
        Me Tu.
        
        James’ ‘unconditional’ support.
        
        The vilification of anyone who dared oppose the Saintess.
        
        The ex-leader bleating to the media at being spied on by companies he has ‘form’ with for nasty work of his own.
        
        I’ll say it again: this country needs a centrist Environment party that is able to work with whichever of Labour or National is the dominant coalition Government party
        
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        August 10, 2017 10:09am
    - cmm
      
      I don’t care if Shaw spent his formative years wearing his co-mothers’ clothing and being their dolly.
      
      The co-penis is supposed to have balls.
      
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      August 10, 2017 12:00pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Yes..two mothers! I mean for goodness sake.
      
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      August 10, 2017 9:30pm
- starboard
  
  Shaw should depart. He backed the wrong horse and has lost all credibility yet he still blows on how wonderful said horse was. Horse is dead Jim,
  quit while you’re behind.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:33am
- Flash
  
  Adern said it (with an engaging smile) was the Green’s problem.
  So it’s not her circus – wait until she really has to start corralling her own cats. Then we’ll have fun.
  Unless of course she is merely the pretty face of millennial Labour.
  
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  August 10, 2017 11:03am
Tarquin North

I see on the front page of today’s Horrid Greenpeace are whining about being spied on. I assume this is the same Greenpeace who happily flout the law every time it suits them? Is Russel trying to do a Metiria? Or is it just lemming season for organisations claiming to be green when they’re really just a bunch of socialists / communists in disguise.
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August 10, 2017 8:09am
- Colville
  
  Anything with Green in the title will now make people look on with distrust and disgust.
  Turei has probably just lost Greenpeace $10 mil in donations.
  Great job Metiria!
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:43am
  - cmm
    
    Every cloud has a silver lining!
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:46am
- Rachael Membery
  
  And why wasn’t he asked to comment on Metiria and if he was, why wasn’t it broadcasted?
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:33am
- pdm
  
  Red Russel – striving to get the Green Party Vote below 5%
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:19am
Gruffydd

whale
Sources say more than $80,000 over four years while Turei was on benefit
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/08/sources-say-80000-four-years-turei-benefit/
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August 10, 2017 8:10am
Happychappy

I see Russell Norman and Green Peace have quickly put a story in the news about illegal surveillance of its members that has them frightened. They maybe have a case but it stinks of trying help take the Green Leadership and poll results away from being the main news.
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August 10, 2017 8:11am
oob

Russell Norman is featured in an article on the Herald frontpage today.

Can anyone help me out with a translation of what he is saying? As far as I can make out it’s something like:

Gimme me fwag bwack! Gimme me fwag bwack!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11901074
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August 10, 2017 8:11am
- stiglet
  
  Nice little boat……. Are those a couple of 250hp outboards?
  
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  August 10, 2017 4:54pm
oldpark

The trade union infested Mainstream Media,went out of their way and created Jacindaphobia,which seems to have helped the joined at the hip corrupt Green / Lie-bour Party MOU. So far so good.
Time to look at the fine print,say for those on a fixed income.
Pensioners and Superannuates,who end up giving a winning vote to Labour.
The $13 dollars a week ,promised by National in April, will not happen.Ardern and gang dont give tax cuts,no one will get them.
Now for the water tax. Fixed incomes will take a huge hit,as the cost of living will rocket,should they get a mandate. Dont be fooled, by bullshit and jelly beans ,by someone too sweet to be wholesome.
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August 10, 2017 8:17am
- KevOB
  
  How could a Jacinda Cabinet manage a GFC or another $20bn earthquake? Feel-good is no substitute for ability.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:01am
  - waikatosinger
    
    Fortunately there are many competent people in government service. So even if the person at the top is a total twit I suspect things will still get done – for a while at least.
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:46am
    - KevOB
      
      But those in power need to be able to understand the bureaucracy and their advice otherwise who rules?
      
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      August 10, 2017 1:20pm
  - cmm
    
    I can see the Wimmins Weekness article with a nice glossy picture:
    
    “NZ Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern visits the earthquake site, equipped for the worst with her Gucchi steel-toes and Prada helmet.”
    
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    August 10, 2017 12:05pm
- Gabby
  
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  On the bright side oldfart won’t be put down by Smirkin Dave Seemore Coq if he forgets to mow his lawn.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:10am
  - softail 1450
    
    OMG ,more gobbledegook ?
    
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    August 10, 2017 12:22pm
Happychappy

Me thinks Winston Peters might be a wee bit irritable this morning after the UMR Poll results were leaked by Labour. I actually hope he has a guts ache as he might show some balls and go after Jacinta and show her up for what she is.
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August 10, 2017 8:17am
- Gabby
  
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  He might decide it’s all Bingles’ fault. That crappy Bingles! That texting fool! I’ll fix that smug chappy!
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:12am
cmm

I think Cindy is going to take the last polling as a mandate to go all comrade on us.

We’ve seen a new water policy and a new transport policy. No doubt soon a new housing policy, minimum wage, etc etc.

She’ll get giddy with the new found power and keep heaping it on, not realising that she has already overstepped the bounds of what NZ will swallow.

Meanwhile the punters will get less enamoured by her dazzling facade and realise there’s nothing inside.

All that will play out in the next 6 weeks.
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August 10, 2017 8:21am
- oldpark
  
  cmm
  Speaking of taxes. What seems to have been missed, was the comment,by Ardern,that Capital Gains Tax,will also be discussed,after the election. Another ambush for those,who are getting sucked in by goody two shoes,known in Europe,when she fronted the International Union of Socialist Youth,as the “Commie Chic” from NZ.Some of the nasties,and comments also from Ardern ,were that her partners in Slime “Green Party would be the first cab of the rank,after the election,if they were needed.
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:44am
- Gabby
  
  Crikey cmmie bokkie, you think there might be some policy announcements with an election coming up? You fucking genius. What’ll we get from your nats? A notmyresponsibilty policy. Everything is an operational matter. I forget. Didn’t happen.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:15am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Don’t think she will be that dense. The poll just saw some lefties switch their vote back from Greens and NZF to Labour. The right were untouched. Labour can’t win unless they appeal to the centre, and that just isn’t in their DNA anymore.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:34am
- KKKKatee
  
  She’ll self-combust with all the power she can see that could be within her reach.
  God help lil’ old NZ.
  And Metria is tweeting furiously that she’s gonna fix the National Govt – or words to that effect. I thought it was all over rover for MT come 24 September? Remember – ‘Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:55pm
Left Right and Centre

Welcome to KB cheap shot of the day . . .

Labour water tax – hmmm. Labour and water . . .
No taste.
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August 10, 2017 8:23am
- G152
  
  Dairy products will be so expensive the ‘poor’ better get used to no milk or cheese.
  And every-one else forget eating bread without a bank loan
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:33am
  - Colville
    
    Tomatoes? Lettuce? Corn? even potatoes!
    Anything hydroponic or irrigated will go thru the roof.
    
    Not much irrigation in a bottle of chardonnay tho.. especially the expensive stuff… Cindy and her cohorts will be fine.
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:47am
    - RalphT
      
      Are you kidding? Admittedly it’s from the US, but the table claims that close to 1,000 litres of water is need to produce a litre of wine. Ironically it looks like the only thing people will be able to afford to drink will be bottled water.
      
      http://www.proteawinesusa.com/2016/02/water-into-wine-how-much-does-it-really-take/
      
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      August 10, 2017 9:20am
      - Flash
        
        No need for a sugar tax then?
        
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        August 10, 2017 11:09am
      - Gabby
        
        A couple of cents a bottle will be the tipping point will it walphie. How much a day are you guzzling?
        
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        August 10, 2017 12:10pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Does that include hydroponic cannabis?
      
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      August 10, 2017 11:07am
  - cmm
    
    The extra cost would make NZ dairy products too expensive on the world market and that would do two things:
    * Kill the NZ dairy industry (since 95% or such of our milk is exported).
    * Kill the NZD meaning the costs of all imported products would go up dramatically.
    
    That flat screen TV you think you’re going to be able to fiddle out of WINZ is going to cost an extra $500.
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:50am
    - Colville
      
      cmm.
      but for a ~~land rapist~~ I mean property developer like myself that could be great as I could pick up something that has been previously wasted having smelly cows wandering around on it.
      Cows dont enjoy those sea views 🙂
      
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      August 10, 2017 9:03am
      - cmm
        
        Wait until there’s another land-raping tax applied…
        
        Most farming that is close to cities (eg. West Melton area next to Chch) is not financially sound because the land would be far more profitable developed.
        
        I used to wind up a friend of mine who has a huge family farm in commuting distance of Chch. I called him a hobby farmer even though they run thousands of ewes + wheat etc. He disagreed.
        
        So I put it to him that his farm lands were probably worth $20M or more sold off as 10 acre blocks (more for smaller subdivisions). Chuck that in the bank and the income would be more than what he gets from looking at ewes’ bums and lambing in the sleet. Therefore it’s a hobby, not a business.
        
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        August 10, 2017 9:20am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    GIven humans are approx. 90% water and need to consume 2.4 litres a day (approx.) to keep up I can see where labour is coming from with their water tax, tax the human body for all that water it contains and uses.
    Anything that we put in our mouth will either contain water or have been manufactured with the use of water.
    If people analyse this in detail they will see it is actually a hidden tax on the end user.
    The city dwellers need to consider the amount of wine they drink. It is not the actual liquid in the bottle it is the amount of water used in the manufacture.
    Lucky we import most of our almonds otherwise the nut eaters would go broke just contemplating the thought of an almond.
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:31am
- Gabby
  
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  Nats and water. Hmmm. Tastes like cowshit.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:16am
  - holysheet
    
    Holyshit gobby, holyshit. Get it right.
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:34am
    - GoVege
      
      Sorry holy, meant to uptick you.
      That was quite witty.
      
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      August 10, 2017 10:02am
  - softail 1450
    
    at last a remotely funny post , yeeee haaaa, well done .
    
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    August 10, 2017 12:25pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

I am actually very happy with the TV3 poll

1. National didn’t suffer any loss only a minor 0.8% drop
2. Tooth Fairy simply reclaimed the votes back from the toxic Greens and Winston First parties.
3. Basically the left block remained the same and nothing has changed
4. Tooth Fairy in her honey moon period jumped up in the PM stakes which has no meaning. Remember Bill English is no John Key
5. Once Tooth Fairy’s make up wears off Kiwis will find out that she is just flake and full of bumper sticker slogans
6. Next couple of polls will maintain this status and then Tooth Fairy will come down to earth with a thud.
7. Having said all that Bill English needs to lift his game a lot. He cannot sleep walk to victory
8. Now Winnie will be in full swing into protection mode. See him attack Tooth Fairy as if there is no tomorrow
9. Once the MSM stop worshipping Tooth Fairy, they will start to ask hard questions
10. When the socialist Cindy announces her income tax policy i.e. 40% tax in rich pricks, she will lose another chunk of voters

This election is for Bill English to lose and not for Tooth Fairy to win.
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August 10, 2017 8:26am
- tas
  
  Yeah. It was pretty good news. I think we’ll see Labour keep the pressure on the Greens by trying to attract their voters.
  
  Labour’s best hope is to cannibalize the Greens (maybe until they drop out of parliament completely) and get into a position where Labour+NZF can govern without a third party. Last night those two were at 42.3% — another 5% and they might reach a majority.
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:37am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Better still was the UMR poll (Labour’s internal poll). Their polling only concluded yesterday, and by last night the poll had already been leaked to the Herald, presumably by the Labour Party.
  
  The good news was that NZF’s support halved, from 16% to just 8%, with the Greens also down to 8%. The even better news was that National, which normally polls worst of all polls in UMR, was UP one point to 43%. It’s looking more and more like a two-horse race, and with six weeks to go, I’d back the stayer Wiremu Pakeha over the sprinter Jacinda 😎
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:41am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    If it is a “horse race” Cindy will win….Get the drift??
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:20am
    - Gabby
      
      Bingles is a hack … right????
      
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      August 10, 2017 12:07pm
- KevOB
  
  You don’t give Bill English the credit John Key gave him as Minister of Finance. Our enviable world economy now is the work of that former Minister, now PM, Bill English.
  
  Snow flakes melt: National Cabinets continue.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:13am
- Kimbo
  
  @ Sir Cullen’s Sidekick
  
  3. Basically the left block remained the same and nothing has changed
  
  Yep, just as it has been since the first MMP election in 1996, and despite all the other bit-players, the real election is always between National and Labour. It is when one takes enough votes off the other that they win government, maybe needing NZ First as a coalition partner. Helen Clark understood it, which is why she always campaigned in the centre, and ditched the toxic Greens as she knew it would damage the Labour brand.
  
  Now for the first time in 4 years, since Labour ditched Shearer and then listened to the looney radicals about the “missing million” fantasy, they are seeing the value of throwing the Greens under the bus. And they’ve only done it by default, courtesy of Turei’s self-destruction and Ardern’s bounce, not deliberate planning!
  
  But are they smart enough to carry on what fate has shown them is a potentially winning strategy…or will they resort, Tourette Syndrome-like to radical-left policy and rhetoric that will scare away middle NZ and show them up for what they really are behind Jacinda’s smile and “relentless ~~positivity~~ regulations”?
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:03am
oldpark

Was wondering what was the difference between Materilistic Turei ripping off the taxpayer with her benefit fraud and theft.
Here we have the person from Labour known as Ardern,out to gouge the taxpayer in a different way.

She spoke of a water tax ,yet said wait until after the election ,and we will let the voters known,how much they will be gouged. In fact wonder why she dosn’t ask the voters for their bank account numbers,at least that would have been more honest,and exposed the water scam.Trust Labour to be up front fair and honest, .Just like Rolf Harris ,and the Green Party thief Turei ,yeah right.
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August 10, 2017 8:27am
- starboard
  
  How could you possibly doubt Comrade Ardern and her rabberly follower’s motives…
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:38am
- Scott
  
  It is good that the co-leader of the Greens has gone. But the crisis has not yet passed. If labour gets enough votes then they will bring in the Greens as their coalition partner.
  
  I agree with everything said about taxation and so forth. However I believe that the real threat to our country is immigration. James Shaw of the Greens has promised to bring in thousands and thousands of Syrian refugees. These will be mainly young men of fighting age and they will be 99% Muslim.
  
  I believe that thousands of Muslims in our country represents an existential threat to our nation.
  
  If you don’t believe me look at France. There was an attack on French troops yesterday in Paris by a terrorist. The identity of this person has not yet been released but they will be a Muslim terrorist.
  
  But what this also shows us is that France is under martial law. There are literally thousands of French troops patrolling the streets keeping the French people safe from Muslim terrorists.
  
  Do we want this in our country? We do not have a terrorist problem at the moment because we have very few Muslims. The only way to keep New Zealanders safe is to elect a government that will not change our immigration settings.
  
  http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/france-under-martial-law.php
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:59am
  - Gabby
    
    Clearly we should be preparing for a massive influx of French refugees.
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:21am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Preferable, Catholic ones.
      
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      August 10, 2017 9:44am
- GoVege
  
  What the hell has poor old Rolf got to do with this?
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:04am
starboard

So happy Kennedy Gollan Montrose Graham is rejoining the McGillicuddy Serious Party.
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August 10, 2017 8:33am
Scorpion

What will?

The National Socialists

Increase GST to this Term?

A 20%
B 25%
C 30%

or
D 50%

Two Ticks Blue
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August 10, 2017 8:34am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Which party increased GST last time?
  
  Yup – Labour Lite!
  
  The choice is between:
  – Labour Lite tax and spend
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  – Overbite’s Labour tax and spend
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:40am
  - Colville
    
    But company, trust and income tax all dropped.
    More money in my bank to play with.
    I am happy with that.
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:49am
  - oldpark
    
    Who brought it in .Yes joined at the hip with Corrupt Greens.
    Liebour brought in that tax called GST,and will bring in a lot more,if given the chance.
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:51am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      I remember it was Trevor de Cleene who was tasked with introducing GST in the 1980’s. He called it the God Save Trevor tax!
      
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      August 10, 2017 8:54am
      - Colville
        
        Pheasant poaching bastard that he was 🙂
        
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        August 10, 2017 9:04am
DifferentPerspective

More proof of DNC corruption

So, while there is not one skerrit of proof to support all the accusations about Trump/Russia – more proof appears about the Obama administration interfering with the Clinton investigation remember these guys are from the Metiria Turei end of the political spectrum and we know what that means for integrity. If the conversation between Bill the serial sexist abuser and Lyin’ Loretta was about the grandkids and golf – why the need to redact anything?

Illegals voting in California – it’s real
When you put that alongside the latest efforts by Judicial Watch which show that California counties have more voters registered than there are voting age citizens! you have to wonder whether it’s possible to ever believe a socialist to tell the truth ever again!

Trump keeps on being right!
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August 10, 2017 8:37am
EAD_TWO

Yet another enormous scale “Asian” child paedophile ring busted in Britain, this time in Newcastle with 461 arrests and “at least” 278 victims.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4775164/Police-paid-child-rapist-10k-spy-sex-parties.html

Just watch the scant coverage from the left wing MSM and Feminists on this.

This is why I can’t stand “modern Feminism” – hyperventilating outrage over a matter of fact opinion of an (ex) Google employee but silence over the industrial scale systematic rape and torture of thousands upon thousands of white school girls.

Just compare and contrast their silence with this sort of shit – Google’s sexist memo has provided the alt-right with a new martyr.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/08/google-sexist-memo-alt-right-martyr-james-damore
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August 10, 2017 8:37am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Our future.
  
  Increase the refugee quota (ie bring in more muslims) and the certainty of this happening increases.
  
  But don’t bother EAD – this is what “falling on deaf ears” looks like!
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:43am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    @ Different Perspective,
    
    It’s what infuriates me so much about the nature of political debate in this country.
    
    The past 2 weeks has all been about Barclay, Arden and Turei. The MSM has devoted thousands of pages of forest to covering these 3 people, whose actions (considering Arden, despite what MSM will tell you, won’t change anything major) doesn’t impact our lives one iota.
    
    Yet when it comes to the largest ever deliberate long term population replacement in all our history (I include the European migration of the 1800’s) that will impact us for generations to come, the most serious debate we seem to have is a couple of columns in the Lifestyle section on how only Indian chefs are capable of cooking a proper curry.
    
    (I should also include hearing Devoy telling us not to be rayyycisss and Eaqub telling us we need more low wage workers but omitted for effect)
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:58am
  - Scorpion
    
    NO YOUR FUTURE
    
    UNDER NATIONAL
    
    NOT MINE
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:34pm
- mandk
  
  And yet, even the Daily Mail glosses over the fact that virtually all of the convicts from
  
  Rotherham
  Rochdale
  Oxford
  Bristol
  Aylesbury
  Peterborough
  Newcastle
  
  are Muslims.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:32am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    How has it come to be like this mandk?
    
    How has it come to be that EAD, mandk and 97% of Kiwiblog can see what is going on and by whom, the dangers if we continue to import these people to our homelands yet the Politicians won’t touch it and the papers with the exceptiom of few honourable commentators pretend as if nothing major is going on?
    
    How is what is so clear to us, hidden behind some screen of impenetrable fog to Politicians and the MSM? All these unrelated “Asians”, “Youths” and “Terrorists” seem to share identifying features yet there remains a seemingly conspiracy of silence from those supposed to serve us?
    
    That is of course, except when certain people navigate their way through all the “equal opportunities” barriers put in front of them to land a high paying job in a tech company or the BBC, it was because they were “White men”.
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:11am
  - Scorpion
    
    It is called
    
    RAPE JIHAD
    
    Look it up
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:35pm
- GoVege
  
  Wadya expect when you import thousands of guys from sexist countries?
  But look on the bright side.
  At least none of these poor girls will be murdered for “dishonouring” their families like they would where these dudes come from!
  
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  August 10, 2017 11:50am
sooty

Andrew little is back in parliament in Labours front row of caucass.
Why?
Has the union spoken?
Is he there as Jacindas minder?
Lets face it what did he achieve in the backbenches?
What is his placing on the list?
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August 10, 2017 8:40am
- VicParking
  
  He had a real smug look on his face during question time. It was hard to tell if it was because of a redemption or a dead rate stuck in his throat.
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:46am
- Happychappy
  
  He will be there to help bring back the Unions and somewhere in Labours plans there will be a bill to get more say from the union in the work force. Minimum wage to between $20.00 and $22.00 strikes for wage increases all this comes to the table if Labour and Grant Roberson have control of the Treasury Benches.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:01am
  - KKKKatee
    
    This reckless behaviour from the Labour Party will only create more unemployment and the thing is, they can’t see it. John Key could see it and very cautiously raised the minimum wage on an annual basis. Also, what will happen is that the cost of goods and services will increase expedentially and there will be very few winners. Just like a dog chasing its tail. More people will be worse off and very few better off. And the ones who manage to survive, will be funding the increase in the unemployment bill. Benefit fraud will go through the roof. But that’s not how Labour views the world. It’s all about sticking it to the rich pricks, whom they despise so much.
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:34am
- KevOB
  
  He’s the father figure. (Or is he the Union Minder?)
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:18am
VicParking

Aucklanders.
Petrol Tax
Vegi Tax
Milk Tax
Commercial Transport costs up
Interest rates up
Less choice in Schooling
Thats what you get when you believe in a Tooth Fairy.
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August 10, 2017 8:41am
lastmanstanding

Given the latest Poll The Captn and other ‘Two Ticks Blue” is now critical for those who want a Nat led government.

Winston has since 1996 always gone to the Party with a highest election vote first. He wont change that. he certainly wont change that to join a government that includes the Green.

Labour needs to get to near 40% on my reading with NZF at 10% to govern together.

IMHO now Me Tu has gone some Greens will return to the fold. So Labour will drop. Even if they stay at current levels it wont be enough.

Dunne Seymour and Maori Party will join Nats and NZF IF Winston agrees.

Winston knows he wont get a PM shared role. The best he can get is Deputy.

As the beltway knows WInston is notorious for not ‘doing his boxes” so he will want a post that doesnt involve many’boxes”.
By most accounts he was very good Foreign Minister ( ask Condi Rice).

The added benefit is FMs are out of the country most of time.

So Deputy and FM would be my pick.
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August 10, 2017 8:48am
Colville

Looking forward to the next month seeing Winston really going the full retard on Cindy as He really wont appreciate Labout knocking NZF back down into single figures.
Cindy is going to be a very busy lady…dealing with Winston coming at her and having to keep the Greens down. She will be hoping she can kill off the greens once and for all.
But all of NZ will be reminded labour is tied to Green by the MOU. Will Cindy tear it up?
But then there is Bill “the Rock” English. He is getting a soft run into September, which is good. It will be fun times as we havent seen any of the attack lines come out yet and Bill will have Cindy firmly in his sights. The minors can fight amongst themselves.
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August 10, 2017 8:55am
- holysheet
  
  Cindy will not be used to any of this. Sounds like to much hard work. Watch her dissolve over the next 6 weeks. She will end up a blubbering wreck. Wait for the meltdown and the sympathy tears start flowing.
  Oh the poor wee thing, being bullied by all those white men.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:39am
- Peter
  
  Ripping up the MOU is obvious and the fact she hasn’t done it indicates she is already misfiring.
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:55am
Manolo

Canada rejoices:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-announcement-asylum-seekers-1.4240038

The Canadian military is building a camp near the United States border to accommodate the influx of asylum seekers crossing into Quebec.
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August 10, 2017 8:56am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Can’t get more accommodating than that. Idiots.
  
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  August 10, 2017 12:44pm
artemisia

How many of Labour’s ‘interns’ are still in the country?
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August 10, 2017 8:56am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Are they now reassigned to hoarding replacement 101 ?
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:09am
  - VicParking
    
    The one in Whanganui ( a Pom ) was front and centre for a photo shoot the other day with the local Liebour hierarchy.
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:38am
3-coil

James Shaw now has to step down too. Evidently he is the last person in the country to accept that the lying slug Turei’s “story” (as she puts it) is a bullshit story.

Shaw is either so naive, or blinded by the leftist PC doctrine he follows, that he couldn’t see the huge holes in her ever-changing litany of lies. In fact he crucified the only two Green MPs who had the conscience to stand up to her – their integrity, principles and morality are other qualities that he didn’t recognise, and must be alien to the spineless Shaw.

James Shaw must step down now, to make space for either of the only two Green MPs (Graham or Clendon) fit to fill the role.
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August 10, 2017 8:58am
- VicParking
  
  One wonder if she gave him his balls back before she left.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:39am
- Chuck Bird
  
  That is the one thing that could bring their polling up. That is if Kennedy Graham was made leader.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:55am
  - Gruffydd
    
    The problem with that is the social justice faction are still in control of the party.
    One wonders what a true ecological party would do in polling if you took the lefty’s out .
    I would guess up to 20%
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:03am
Manolo

The nefarious Merkel’s legacy:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/migrant-crime-germany-rises-50-per-cent-new-figures-show/#b

The crime rate among migrants in Germany rose by more than 50% last year, according to new figures that have raised concerns the populist far-Right may seize on the issue in the run-up to September’s elections.

The number of suspected crimes by refugees, asylum-seekers and illegal immigrants rose to 174,438 in 2016 — an increase of 52.7%, according to the interior ministry.
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August 10, 2017 8:59am
waikatogirl

Kennedy Graham wants back into the Greens now that Me Tu has stepped down. The answer is no, but KG is having talks in the hope of being reinstated on the Green party list
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August 10, 2017 9:04am
Dave Mann

The other day I clicked on a link somewhere (can’t remember where) which opened a voting survey purporting to tell you which NZ party most aligns with your views.

I took the survey. The questions were really interesting and there were more than just yes/no options for areas where you wanted to go deeper. I assume this survey was an adaptation of an overseas (US) model because the word ‘federal’ came up a couple of times, but nevertheless it seems to cover NZ issues pretty well.

If you’re interested go to this link and try it. Comments welcome.

http://newzealand.isidewith.com

p.s. my results came out 61% aligned with… umm… a certain party… er… not saying yet (but it wasn’t Mana) … 😀
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August 10, 2017 9:16am
- VicParking
  
  Seeing you take surveys like that I assume its the McGillicuddy Serious Party you are aligned with.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:42am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Don’t write me off as an idiot please.
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:10am
- holysheet
  
  No No NO. 70% for the Winston first party. Fuck that, it must be a rogue poll.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:49am
  - Dave Mann
    
    It looks far too professional to be a fake sponsored by a political party. My guess is that it’s a two-way project constructed by some international political think tank which collects the data as bona fide survey material but gives the respondent interesting feedback on his/her views as a sort of ‘reward loop’.
    
    My result was 61% NZF too. I don’t think Winston Peters has the financial resources or the technical interest to fake this. Also it appears (by the IP addtess) to also be used in other countries, so I either have to accept that this party closely aligns with my views or that I’m being used as part of some technically advanced international conspiracy theory. I’d bet on the former, frankly.
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:05am
  - GoVege
    
    Hehe..you gotta vote for Winnie now!
    
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    August 10, 2017 11:32am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Hahaha yes…. I was already leaning towards NZF long before I took this survey. I didn’t want to disclose my result at first because I didn’t want it to look like I was pushing them.
      
      I still don’t know whether I will vote for them though… lol
      
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      August 10, 2017 11:38am
- dime
  
  59% act
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:57am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Thanks for participating and telling us your result. I’m trying to stimulate a genuine political discussion and its good to hear from you. Cheers.
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:08am
    - Kimbo
      
      I think some of the questions were facile. What if you judge “competence” the most important issue?
      
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      August 10, 2017 2:53pm
- Dafixeruppa
  
  66% Act and 63% National, and then all the others with only a few % between. I even side with Labour 51% of the time.
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:19am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Yes I got 50% Labour and if I’m interpreting this correctly it shows how similar all the parties are on many policy areas. I would have expected to get around 20% or less Labour.
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:29am
    - GoVege
      
      I got Greens and I’d never vote for those twits!
      
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      August 10, 2017 11:29am
      - holysheet
        
        With you only eating your greens, what did you expect?
        
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        August 10, 2017 2:44pm
      - GoVege
        
        You’re probably right there holy….
        
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        August 10, 2017 9:33pm
- Shawn Herles
  
  Well that was interesting. I got 66% aligned with the Conservative Party followed by 55% aligned with NZF, and then 50% National. Gratifying to see that I had almost nothing in common with the Greens or Mana who were at the bottom,
  
  No surprise there, except that I would not actually vote CP because they are a shambles, and Colin gives me the creeps. 🙂
  
  http://newzealand.isidewith.com/results/3268306182
  
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  August 10, 2017 12:02pm
  - Shawn Herles
    
    I see the CP has a new leader. Pity they currently have no chance of entering Parliament as, based on a quick look, I agreed with most of their policies.
    
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    August 10, 2017 12:15pm
    - Scott
      
      Yes I would be interested in a conservative party, somewhat to the right of National. Unfortunately they are not even appearing in the polls. Lower even than United Future at 0.1%
      
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      August 10, 2017 3:50pm
    - Gabby
      
      Have the nats a candidate for Clutha Southland yet? Maybe Bingles should just do it himself. Most of the voters won’t notice he wasn’t the MP all along.
      
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      August 10, 2017 8:11pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Act 76%. Unsurprised, expect that it gives me 62% National and 55% labour. Labour over my dead fucking body.
  
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  August 10, 2017 12:02pm
- Dave Mann
  
  Thanks for taking the survey and posting your impressions, guys.
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:05pm
Anne Glen Eden

It’s good that Turei has finally done the decent thing and left. It’s also plain that the Greens have to decide if they are Green or hard-Left Red. The two MPs who quit/were ousted obviously must be reinstated (should they want to be) if they are to have any claim to being ‘Green’. Are the Greens trying to achieve Green objectives – or they aiming for Red comrade-type ‘loyalty’ and uniformity?

Labour has the same problem – either they’re a bunch of activists mired in identity politics or they want to provide responsible governance for the whole country. There are far too many working people who are earning less than subsistence wages and Labour betrayed them years ago in favour of identity politics.

For them it’s also complicated by the Left being seriously flaky. Their voters are clearly not concerned with policy – because the poll results don’t derive from policy. Apart from Turei, they derive entirely from Jacinda’s toothy grin. The Left feel they’ve ‘achieved’ something – an appearance to compete with John Key – who isn’t there anymore.

What little policy Jacinda’s come up with so far – apart from targeting particular NZers in the usual politics of envy, ‘divide-and-rule’ strategy – has all the usual hallmarks of ‘We’ll do it in ten years’. That’s a third term from now – and they have yet to win one election, let alone three.

The only thing that’s going to be done after the election is the water policy – and then they’re going to ‘consult’ and ‘talk about it’. Translation – firstly, there’s no promise to do anything; secondly, they’ll do nothing different to now because it’s ‘fiscally responsible’ – except maybe ‘in the future’.

National support, on the other hand, clearly is not based on John Key, appearance or otherwise. Bill English is a human, wholesome, and responsible leader of the governance of the country – who clearly cares passionately for NZ and its people, even if he doesn’t show it effusively. He is exceptionally committed to it. He has lots of ‘skin in the game’, having created and raised an extensive family and persevered through political ups and downs which few others have survived. He’s certainly not in it ‘for a good time’. He’s in it ‘for a long time’. And he’s done it with humility, aplomb, and respect – also with success, given NZ is currently better off than many countries in the world.

Love them or hate them, National can’t fluff any of their policies – they’re in government. They have to ‘do’ things for real and can’t promise wish lists. They certainly would find it difficult to promise things ‘in ten years’ – not only are they not fortune-tellers, the chances of any party remaining in government for 19 straight years must be low.

They do have to be innovative though, in dealing with modern life. They do have to listen and respond more to voters – and allow them more autonomy on the values they live by. They do have to ensure that everyone who works receives a livable wage, and that those who can’t work, for whatever reason, can survive as well. They do need to find a more ‘national’ identity, sense of belonging, and shared values to help glue society together and set and maintain basic standards of a social contract on both sides.

I do want clean water but not at the expense of making it saleable, thereby exposing people to the risk of not being able to ‘afford’ it (or in good quality) in the future.

I do want equal wages for women, but not at the expense of forcing all women (men, if they prefer) into the workforce when they want to be or should be parenting.

I do want much more invested in children, as human capital, but not thrusting them into relentlessly parentless environments, leaving them to the mercy of the MSM and social media, ideologically brainwashed and politicised before they should be, and convinced that they are fit to rule the world in their ignorance and/or compassionate naivete.

Rampant industrialisation was a terrible idea, whether it produced some good capabilities/ideas or not. Rampant capitalism and consumerism is equally damaging of people and the planet. We need some new ideas but they must be practical, rational, and true and work for everyone.

National have lots of scope to get out of any rut they’ve acquired and start being truly innovative, particularly the younger streams of it. Identity politics needs to be over. Time for a true growth spurt.
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August 10, 2017 9:20am
- cmm
  
  She has not done the “decent thing”.
  
  She accepted no blame and said she’s leaving because people are being nasty to her family (meanwhile it is really her that has been nasty to her family).
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:40am
- Peter
  
  Anne, if I could give your posts more upticks, I would.
  
  Your recent comments have been lucid and interesting.
  
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  August 10, 2017 11:02am
  - Shawn Herles
    
    I agree. Anne’s comments are some of the best I have read on KB in a long time.
    
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    August 10, 2017 2:04pm
- GoVege
  
  Jeez Anne…why not just write a book?
  
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  August 10, 2017 11:28am
Gabby

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Just run over all the nat policy announcements again would you? So I can make an informed choice.
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August 10, 2017 9:32am
- starboard
  
  Go play on the road ya fuckin idiot
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:34am
  - Gabby
    
    Is that the cycleway policy or the childcare policy starfish ya fuckin tool?
    
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    August 10, 2017 12:01pm
    - starboard
      
      heh..touched a nerve..buwhahahaha ! Poor little giblet.
      
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      August 10, 2017 1:19pm
      - itstricky
        
        It’s the lefties who are nasty, who don’t engage in debate, and who do all the name calling, starboard. Just you remember that.
        
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        August 10, 2017 1:40pm
      - starboard
        
        Talk to the hand sticky..
        
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        August 10, 2017 2:24pm
      - Gabby
        
        Is that what you call it these days starfish. Just don’t touch your ‘nerve’ in public.
        
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        August 10, 2017 5:48pm
      - Gabby
        
        Is your hand sticky from touching your ‘nerve’ starfish.
        
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        August 10, 2017 5:49pm
- mandk
  
  Oh dear, Gabby, you’re such a numpty.
  
  You think a good government is one that does things.
  
  But when you grow up you might come to understand that it’s one that does as little as necessary.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:37am
  - Gabby
    
    manky you’re such a turd recycler. When you throw up you might realise the difference between as little as necessary and as little as possible.
    
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    August 10, 2017 12:02pm
Sublime

“The DPRK must choose to stop isolating itself and stand down its pursuit of nuclear weapons,” Mattis said in a statement. “The DPRK should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people.”

Tillerson is no Trump … and Mattis? Well, he’s just good ‘ole Mattis. This man is not there to fornicate with spiders.
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August 10, 2017 9:34am
Sublime

Burn it all to the fucking ground

That’s my immediate response to the news that Metiria Turei has resigned and will be leaving Parliament. Rage, just utter rage at a political system where this can happen. Where people who have been poor are villified and harassed because of the choices a corrupt, unfair, immoral system forced them to make. Where those people are sent a clear message that they should not and never can be involved in politics. Where instead, we’re ruled by entitled wankers like Gower and Hosking and People Like Them who meet their approval.

The crap is flying in all directions over at NRT!
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August 10, 2017 9:37am
- Swifty
  
  Tears of impotent rage……
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:52am
  - Peter
    
    Yes, they keep banging on about revolution and manning the barricades, but what do they do the next day?
    
    Write another impotent blog post read by upwards of 6, perhaps 7 people.
    
    “Yes brothers and sisters, we’ll destroy the current order! Erm….but first I’ll update my Facebook profile and …..zzzzzz……huh? ….wha…where was I…..Oh, new shows on Netflix….gotta watch ’em……revolutionzzzzzzz………”
    
    It’s hard to be Che when you look more like that comic-selling bloke from the Simpsons.
    
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    August 10, 2017 11:07am
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  There’s some irony to that. Have you not noticed that a lot of the world is feeling that same ‘rage’ – from every side of the spectrum. And it is reaching very dangerous levels.
  
  It derives from the world progressively having been governed by small elites who believe that they know how everyone else should live and enforce it, irrespective of the value system employed – but it has predominated in the Left /Liberal.
  
  When ‘the people’ determine the governments and policies they want, there is some balance. That balance may not be the optimum that any purist ideologue wants, and it may prevent anyone ever getting what they feel is the ‘full’ opportunity to institute their philosophies or strategies. But it does ensure that the majority of the people live at some level of peaceful autonomy and a tolerable level of fairness and equality.
  
  We live in a world where governments have progressively stolen the power of ‘the people’ to pursue policies which satisfy a ‘few’ and frustrate everyone else. It doesn’t actually matter what their policies are – it just disenfranchises and disconnects the majority of the population, who all become progressively angrier.
  
  Modern politics can be described as a reenactment of Milgram’s famous experiment. Someone with power and ‘authority’ instructs the general populace to apply electric shocks to those who don’t ‘achieve’ successfully (in the experiment if was spelling a word wrong – in society you can insert any PC concept, smoking etc., but also unemployment, water pollution, etc.)
  
  Every time the ‘subject’ fails, they are shocked – the level of shock escalating with each failure until it becomes lethal.
  
  The experiment showed that 60% to 70% will administer lethal electric shocks to anyone for generic ‘failure’ to obey orders and ‘achieve’ successfully. Despite watching the victim suffer, scream, and die, some will love it altogether, some will go along with it with unease, some will weep and wail while doing it but do it anyway. Only 20% to 30% will say ‘No’ at the lethal or suffering level.
  
  This result was consistent across the world and cultures, including Australia and NZ. The French repeated this on public television a few years ago – the experiment always causes horror and major disturbance for those faced with their own ‘humanity’.
  
  For me, the ‘whole’ increasingly suffers from Stockholm syndrome and become utterly confused about where they’re at and what they believe in – and angry about it, often without even knowing why, desperately clinging to the justification they’ve been given. Others, of course, become directly abusive, suicidal, etc.
  
  In the internet world, they all have increasing visibility, especially the 20% to 30%. The potential for unthinking obedience and ‘rebellion’ just grows, as does the anger of all. It’s very, very dangerous, inspiring continuous generic mental, physical, and emotional disturbance.
  
  The only way out of it is public democracy and an overt, informed, chosen social contract accepted by the vast majority, which is fully participant in its own governance.
  
  It requires democratic representatives who actually represent the views of an informed and beneficent people – as the highest good – no matter the political orientation.
  
  Activists should be seen and heard – just not in allowed in government and governance.
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:22am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Comment from a Google worker about a co-workers wrong-think firing and what his co-workers really think (in private to protect their jobs in this Orwelian environment):
    
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    August 10, 2017 12:09pm
  - KevOB
    
    “Activists should be seen and heard – just not in allowed in government and governance.
    
    Yes! That’s been my message too.
    
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    August 10, 2017 1:56pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Gee, I must go over to NRT and leave a comment there to rark Harbrow up.
  
  Oh, hang on. No Right Turn doesn’t do comments; you have to take Idiot/Savant’s word as gospel, and no contrary opinions will be considered.
  
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  August 10, 2017 11:13am
fluffykiwi

I see Whaleoil going full out at the moment re: Bill English and the “Texts” Winnie allegedly has. Mr Slater seems not happy if anyone mentions Winnie and the $158,000.00, risk a “ban” if people continue along that line when the post is all about Bill and the texts.
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August 10, 2017 9:47am
- Tarquin North
  
  WO appears to be going full retard on Bill English, why I don’t know apart from his fetish style backing of crusher. He is getting more and more like The Standard by the day. I think he’s forgotten how to run his business and will pay the price.
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:07am
  - VicParking
    
    WO sells his sole to the highest bidder.
    
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    August 10, 2017 6:18pm
    - Colville
      
      Some lawyer was paying WO to slag off her ex hubby some teacher on the blog? The lawyer got shit canned by the lawyers disciplinary people? conduct unbecomming or some such? text trail proved the connection.
      
      Anyone got a link?
      
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      August 10, 2017 6:38pm
- oldpark
  
  Especially, that loudmouth is the Chief patriarch of all spin doctors,along with “barely sober”.and the funny peculiar guy from tv3 called Gower.
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:31am
- Ambergris
  
  I read earlier I think in Stuff that Kelvin Davis is good mates with Winston and Shane Jones. I note also the Maori Party comments on Adern and Davis.
  
  I stopped reading Wailoil regularly earlier in the year after having been a paid subscriber for a couple of months. I stopped mainly because I felt the blog had largely lost objectivity over some issues, not least was his obvious hatred for English.
  
  The blogs insistence that NZF would never go with anything involving the Greens was another loss of objectivity in my view. I am sure some vote for NZF because they agree with their policies etc etc but to vote for NZF as a protest vote against National has never made any sense to me.
  
  The likely result going on current polling and the personal relationships in play is a Lab/NZF/MP government.
  
  To do my bit to try and avoid that the only logical step I can see is party vote National.
  
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  August 10, 2017 11:10am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Indeed, Winnie and his cuzzie, whanau is strong with Maori, makes it seem obvious Winnie would go with Labour.
    The other thought could be a party vote Act as National will still need a support partner, they will hold their electorate seats so possibly their party vote will not equate to giving them more seats. However if Seymour takes Epsom, which seems a strong possibility then Act needs less percentage for every extra list MP they bring in.
    
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    August 10, 2017 11:35am
    - Ambergris
      
      Two things stop me voting ACT. First I once liked how Seymour applied himself, but recently he has come across to me at least as rather childish. Maybe I am just getting old or lacking in humour!
      
      Second I fear that on current polling a party vote Act will be wasted, but that is my only other realistic option. I would far prefer National was to the right of their current position but I see MMP as meaning that to get into Government a party has to hold the centre and about 45% of us say we are okay where National is now, seems like that is the centre to me?
      
      From time to time I wonder about a “grand coalition” between National and Labour. There is talent and deadwood on both sides and such a beast would have the ability to get things done. I wonder if they would be good things or bad!
      
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      August 10, 2017 12:37pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Funny, WP and the $158 used to be target practice at WO, but someone definitely has his baubles in a twist over BE.
  WO has never claimed to be objective and that is proving correct in spades.
  
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  August 10, 2017 11:33am
VicParking

I liked Bills comment, in Question time yesterday, when Shaw asked him the only Question the left ever ask, “Do you stand by all your statements”. He said he was the only leader of a Green party in the world that did not have a “Climate change spokesman” ( a reference to GH’s resignation).
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August 10, 2017 9:48am
Dafixeruppa

I tried to post on a story on Stuff today, but apparently it didn’t meet the moderators standards, so I am reposting it here:

It was against an opinion piece at: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/95620221/the-government-is-failing-new-zealands-vulnerable

Keep trying, but you will fail as did the media in America.
You can continue to push a completely anti-national rhetoric and stories that try to portray how badly NZ is being managed, but the people that actually get out there and vote, in the main, are not stupid.
They see that the message the media is giving does not match to the reality they can see.
It is time to wake up and start reporting the facts and only the facts.
Stop using lies and half truths to force your own opinions and beliefs onto the rest of the country.
You go on about the rights of the press to be able to say what they want, but how about the responsibility of the press to tell the truth? or is that something that has gone by the by.
I am saddened and disgusted about where the press has got to. I highly doubt that this post will make it past the “adjudicators” and stay, but just remember that the more you blatantly lie and try to say that black is white, the more you put off the very people you are trying to brainwash.
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August 10, 2017 9:54am
- MCos
  
  I’m not surprised they rejected your comment after the challenge at the end, particularly as you have not advanced any arguments to counter those in the article.
  
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  August 10, 2017 11:13am
  - Dafixeruppa
    
    I also didn’t bother to advance any arguments to the articles claiming that Saint Metiria was being harshly and unjustly criticised either.
    I was simply pointing out that the only reason the media are publishing the sentiments and opinion pieces they are is to try to brainwash people into believing them and only them.
    Anyway, moot now 🙂
    EDIT: I also gave you an uptick as you are absolutely correct in what you said 🙂
    
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    August 10, 2017 11:56am
- Dafixeruppa
  
  Damn, someone in the Stuff arbitration team must look over here occasionally. My comment is now back with a mix of for and against comments on it.
  
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  August 10, 2017 11:53am
  - Gabby
    
    They musta fukkadituppa.
    
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    August 10, 2017 11:56am
    - Dafixeruppa
      
      Aww Gobby, I feel so special that you have felt compelled to come up with one of your inane sad phonetics for me too.
      Thank you, it will be the highlight of my day today.
      You can take a break now, knowing that you have achieved immortality for the now
      
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      August 10, 2017 11:57am
      - Gabby
        
        Thatsa no problema daffa.
        
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        August 10, 2017 5:44pm
sooty

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. To the Wellington taxi driver who talked some sense in to Metiria Turei. ( if you want a state of the nation ask the driver )When all of the Green party toadies were all climbing on her back and saying how good she was for providing for her daughter and looking after the benies. Note Shaw is still praising Saint Metiria, this morning.
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August 10, 2017 10:03am
Swifty

I’ll never understand what sort of thinking goes through the mind of someone who would do this so casually to one of our infirm senior citizens or any NZer for that matter….

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/95632741/thief-nabs-smokes-off-elderly-man-in-thames

He’s old and weak to so I’ll do what I want with him?

Or on a benefit and forced by the system to steal to feed his kids?

Jackals….
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August 10, 2017 10:07am
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  Anti-smokers will love both sides of that equation:
  
  1. The old man shouldn’t have been and shouldn’t be allowed to smoke anyway so ‘deserved’ it – and maybe it will do him ‘good’.
  
  2. All smokers are bad people = jackals
  
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  August 10, 2017 10:49am
- cmm
  
  This is the sort of shit we get from relentlessly trying to rip up societies with welfare policies, race baiting, etc.
  
  Why should I care about the old bugger? I get my money from the state. He just looks like easy pickings for some extra resources.
  
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  August 10, 2017 11:13am
  - MCos
    
    Common theft is much more common in Thailand where there is no social welfare.
    
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    August 10, 2017 11:20am
    - cmm
      
      Thailand’s average IQ is only 91, so not an apples-to-apples comparison.
      
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      August 10, 2017 1:28pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Feeding them tobacco, very cost effective. (sarc)
  
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  August 10, 2017 12:10pm
- waikatogirl
  
  What a big, brave shit stealing from an elderly man who can barely walk, and has no way of defending himself or his possessions. Where is his decency!
  
  I’ve said before that there needs to be harsher charges for those who steal, or do worse, to the elderly and frail.
  
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  August 10, 2017 12:35pm
Peter

Or on a benefit and forced by the system to steal to feed his kids?

This. System at fault. /Me Tu
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August 10, 2017 10:32am
sooty

Were is H2, theese days?
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August 10, 2017 10:44am
kowtow

So funny ,when they’re excluded they claim racism , when they’re included they claim racism.

‘Some members of Duisburg’s Turkish community say a new trash can campaign encouraging “Mehmet” and “Gülcan” to throw away garbage is racist.’

https://www.thelocal.de/20170808/duisburg-anti-litter-campaign-accused-of-racism-over-use-of-turkish-names
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August 10, 2017 11:14am
Lucia Maria

If anyone is hanging out for stats on commenters for yesterday’s General Debate, I am unable to provide them.

The program is broken for yesterday. Beautiful Soup is messing up, though it’s entirely possible that I’m not using it the way it was intended, thus exacerbating the problem.

However, it is so far working for today’s GD, so maybe there will be stats for tomorrow.

I do feel the urge to keep going to fix the damn thing, but have to pull my attention back onto my Calculus paper. Want to keep up with my A’s.
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August 10, 2017 11:21am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Thank you for providing this public service to us.
  
  You get an “A+” from me for this work 🙂
  
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  August 10, 2017 12:19pm
Inandout

Google has a ‘diversity’ problem, well that is what a recently sacked employee says. Now, how does one get round using Google?
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August 10, 2017 12:01pm
- BananaLlama
  
  You cant it is why the Trump Administration is considering classifying Google as a utility service.
  
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  August 10, 2017 12:22pm
- VicParking
  
  There are plenty of options.
  Microsoft: Microsoft Edge
  Android: Firebox (mozilla)
  Apple: Yahoo or Bing
  These are all available on their settings so no need to hunt them up and download anything.
  If you want to download their are a number of third party options for both systems.
  
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  August 10, 2017 1:00pm
- rangitoto
  
  https://duckduckgo.com/
  
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  August 10, 2017 1:08pm
  - Fletch
    
    Yup, I’ve used DuckDuck for years. It’s not supposed to track you. You can set it as your default browser search engine, too from the taskbar.
    
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    August 10, 2017 2:32pm
    - VicParking
      
      And settings in IOS
      
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      August 10, 2017 6:25pm
Fletch

The Herald has a story on their facebook site about Jacinda’s rise in the polls with Trotter saying the Govt may have a difficult next few weeks. As one commenter points out –

Oh my God people are shallow!!
It’s the same Labour party that it was two weeks ago you troglodytes!!
Insert a pretty face and boom, 10% more votes?
Unbelievable!!

https://www.facebook.com/nzherald.co.nz/posts/10154709425541302
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August 10, 2017 12:22pm
Prince

I’m no fan of Trevor Mallard, but the latest outrage is just ridiculous.

Labour MP Trevor Mallard has also apologised for using a Maori name as a play on words in a social media exchange with Wellington Mayor Justin Lester.
In a Twitter conversation on Saturday, Lester joked with a follower that they would miss his witty repartee if they unfollowed him.

Mallard responded: “Witi Reparti played for Taumaranui” – something he now says was inappropriate.
Porirua City councillor Ana Coffey slammed the exchange, saying Maori names were not to be used as punchlines.
“My name, Ana, isn’t that exotic. But when your name is other or your language is not English it doesn’t feel good to be made fun of.”
It was irresponsible for “people in power” to use other language or cultures as comedy, she said.
Lester said he called Mallard to tell him the joke was inappropriate.
“I thought he was referring to an actual club rugby player from Taumaranui and I joined in with Simon Culhane, a player from my childhood.”
When approached for an interview, Mallard referred to comments he made on social media:
“This is an inappropriate use of 1970s nickname. Not appropriate then and not now. I apologise for using and to anyone who took it seriously.”
Tana (Porirua mayor) said Coffey was right to call out Mallard’s tweet, as names should be treated with respect.

Gabby, I hope you take note.
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August 10, 2017 12:29pm
- kowtow
  
  It’s long past time for the push back.
  
  The outrage industry is out of control.
  
  “My name, Ana, isn’t that exotic. But when your name is other or your language is not English it doesn’t feel good to be made fun of.”
  
  Get a fucking life.
  
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  August 10, 2017 12:55pm
- rangitoto
  
  Poor Trev. This will mean sackcloth and ashes for at least a month to appease the SJW’s.
  
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  August 10, 2017 1:06pm
- mandk
  
  Pay no attention to Mallard.
  He’s a lame duck.
  (Boom, boom!)
  
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  August 10, 2017 3:12pm
- Gabby
  
  Witi used to drive my tractor when Flash Gordon was busy.
  
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  August 10, 2017 5:33pm
Kimbo

Meanwhile, over on the Likud blog, it has been announced

Yesterday the results of a poll were released that show strong Kiwi support for a Jewish State. This may be surprising to some of our readers who have assumed incorrectly that only beltway people and political tragics like Whaleoil readers cared about New Zealand’s co-sponsorship of United Nations Security Council Resolution 2334

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/08/press-release-poll-new-zealanders-attitudes-israel/

Er, supporting the existence and legitimate defence needs of the Jewish state and co-sponsoring UNSC 2334 were never mutually exclusive, and certainly not for our government!
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August 10, 2017 12:34pm
Fletch

And now from the WTF! File, Hillary says she wants to be a preacher…

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/hillary-clinton-devotionals/535941/
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August 10, 2017 12:39pm
- sooty
  
  She would be needing a preacher.
  
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  August 10, 2017 1:21pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  She needs to add a veneer of piety to help her avoid prosecution. Or maybe she needs to get better tax treatment for her ‘charity’
  
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  August 10, 2017 2:45pm
Manolo

Another lone wolf:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/09/paris-police-hunt-driver-hit-soldiers-on-patrol-levallois-perret

French police have searched the home of a man suspected of driving a car into a group of soldiers in a Paris suburb, injuring six, to establish whether he has links to terrorist organisations.

The man, who police shot and arrested earlier on Wednesday after a motorway chase in northern France, was reported to be a 36-year-old living in a north-west outskirts of Paris. He was not believed to be on the national security list.
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August 10, 2017 12:57pm
- rangitoto
  
  A Huguenot?
  
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  August 10, 2017 1:12pm
kowtow

Someone posted about this pos the other day. Yet another of our exports across the ditch making a name for himself.

“The part-time homeless “mayor” of the tent city in Sydney’s Martin Place has a long criminal history of serious assaults against young women and police, as well as theft, threat and driving offences.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/sydney-tent-city-mayor-lanz-priestly-has-criminal-past/news-story/9ebeffc6bae0a84b2d3d49bb72b48960
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August 10, 2017 12:58pm
- sooty
  
  No doubt they will end up exporting him back to us.
  
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  August 10, 2017 1:19pm
  - kowtow
    
    Kelvin Davis to head the reception committee.
    
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    August 10, 2017 2:03pm
- GoVege
  
  Well, he was probably bashed and taught crime as a kid.
  But it sounds like he hasn’t exactly worked hard to turn his life around.
  It would be interesting to know the truth about the number of his children, etc.
  And how a teenage girl ended up with a guy like this and pregnant to him.
  I wonder how many other kids of his are supported on the benny.
  
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  August 10, 2017 3:12pm
Manolo

Welcome to Australia and a brave new world of welfare benefits.
Some mozzies do not like work:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4773908/Pauline-Hanson-claims-Muslim-migrants-rely-welfare.html

Pauline Hanson has unleashed on the Australian Islamic population, claiming the ‘gutless’ Labor Party have ‘sold their soul for the Muslim vote’ and the government have been hiding information on their impact.

Speaking to the Senate on Wednesday afternoon, Hanson accused the government of ‘hiding evidence of high unemployment and high dependence on social welfare’ to protect the Islamic community.
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August 10, 2017 1:02pm
- MCos
  
  “‘I am well known for speaking up about immigration but what isn’t well known is that I’m not anti-migrant,’ Hanson said to audible laughs.”
  
  She also anti providing anything to back up her claims by the looks
  
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  August 10, 2017 1:32pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Muslims certainly could influence an Election. I see they are well represented in a lot of ALP Electorates. Can’t see a Labor pollie upsetting them and risk losing his seat…
    https://muslimvillage.com/2013/09/06/43492/australian-muslim-voter-guide-federal-election-2013/screen-shot-2013-09-05-at-9-20-37-pm/
    ‘Our analysis has shown that Australian Muslim voters could play a major role in deciding the outcome in up to 5 seats in the election. As the table below shows, Muslims are significant majorities in a number of seats that will help decide who wins the election. It is thus extremely important that you make your vote count.’
    Muslimvillage.com
    
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    August 10, 2017 2:05pm
Captain Mainwaring

Ironsand mining off South Taranaki given the green light. Yay !
Watch the ignorant protesters lining the streets (street) of Patea.
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August 10, 2017 1:06pm
- Brigitte
  
  Shaw is asking a question about it in today’s Q&A. I don’t watch it so will need to wait till after 3 to read the response on Hansard.
  
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  August 10, 2017 1:31pm
sooty

Thank god someone is keeping on the Greenpeace criminals. Photographing them in the act for future court cases. Brilliant well done you spys. Don’t stop now. Do it out in the open, don’t hide.
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August 10, 2017 1:26pm
- kowtow
  
  Is the irony lost on the media ,reporting this squealing from the envirocriminals ,who illegally obstruct business and trespass where they will ,going to the courts when the shoe is on the other foot?
  
  I’d love to see these big businesses who are obstructed by these criminals getting together and taking civil action to ruin them.
  
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  August 10, 2017 2:48pm
- RF
  
  In spite of what some scrawny old legal eagle was saying on TV tonight it is not illegal to carry out surveillance. It’s only when you start filming that there is a difficulty that a judge can decide who is correct.
  
  However this only applies if you are a licensed investigator. Un licensed .. no problems.
  
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  August 10, 2017 7:05pm
- Gabby
  
  Have they posted pics of the spooks yet?
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:06pm
KKKKatee

So how come the media didn’t go hunting for Mr Stanton while all this was going on? He must have had the drawbridge at the castle firmly raised so nobody could get in. In a way, I do feel some sympathy for her as the blow torch was applied as she virtually faced it all alone albeit with support from James Shaw. But I guess that is the price one pays for being caught out. The emotional roller coaster ride she’s been on will surely leave her shaken and stirred…..
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August 10, 2017 1:43pm
- mandk
  
  Perhaps the experience will teach her the importance of probity, but I somehow doubt it.
  
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  August 10, 2017 3:04pm
- KevOB
  
  ” The emotional roller coaster ride she’s been on will surely leave her shaken and stirred…..
  
  She still has the WINZ fraud investigators to get through. Her public background revelations have added to their scope.
  
  They don’t smile unless a Judge has just given a guilty verdict.
  
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  August 10, 2017 3:49pm
- Gabby
  
  Chop chop for Mr Stanton eh.
  
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  August 10, 2017 5:25pm
Surely Knott

Latest RNZ article. Jacinda wants Fat Freddys Drop to play at Parliament with a lead picture of her in the DJ booth at a rave. Fat Freddys is undoubtedly cool. And Bill English’s pizza is undoubtedly not-cool. But could Jacinda’s downfall be she is too cool. Is the DJ cool girl thing going to get on people’s nerves after a while, if the media keep shoving it down our throats. Anyways if it gets overplayed that will be her downfall . And Bill’s kind of steady as she goes Dad jokes and daggy pizza’s will win the day. Fingers crossed
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August 10, 2017 1:50pm
- Gabby
  
  Dipton. Shit.
  
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  August 10, 2017 5:23pm
MH

am in my Anderson shelter waiting for the balloon to go up, plenty of fuller’s earth compacted around the entrance.
Even today Bill English has said the rhetoric is getting undiplomatic (silly) between Trump and Jong Un. None seems too perturbed. That is what worries me.
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August 10, 2017 3:03pm
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  What do you suggest anyone do?
  
  North Korea is China’s and Russia’s ‘pet monster’ which can attack the West generally, and the US in particular, while they maintain plausible deniability.
  
  It could easily and literally ‘explode’ in a heartbeat – same rage as Sublime “Burn it all to the fucking ground”. Except those countries are trying to keep the liberal West out of their societies – as is Turkey.
  
  I’m sure if NK, China, or Russia think they can get away with any form of a ‘small’ strategic strike on the West, they’ll do it. They’ve been ‘grooming’ Europe and the UK for months, if not years, by incursions into their territory by land, sea, and air.
  
  Bill English was a lot more condemning on TV last night of the rhetoric. Meanwhile, the futile UN keeps upping sanctions to no effect and any Security Council action will be roundly vetoed.
  
  Whatever, let’s face it, there’s absolutely nothing Bill English can do. We could always try sending Jacinda – she claims to have sorted out Palestinian/Israeli relations previously, at least between youth.
  
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  August 10, 2017 3:34pm
  - Scorpion
    
    North Korea is the Bait
    
    in the Trap for the USA
    
    When they take it they Sink the US Fleet
    the balance of Power Changes
    
    AND ORC ARMIES descend on
    
    MIDDLE EARTH
    
    AUSTRALIAN and NZ
    
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    August 10, 2017 10:43pm
- GoVege
  
  What can we do, MH?
  Nobody voted for the first nutter and a bunch of idiots voted for the second one.
  
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  August 10, 2017 3:37pm
- Gabby
  
  It’s almost as if they know intelligence reports of Norko capability have been exaggerated a tad of a smidgeon.
  
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  August 10, 2017 5:22pm
Anne Glen Eden

The PC police on Stuff must be frenetic. My comments appear and disappear at the drop of a hat – mind you I have a permanent ‘moderation’ edict anyway and don’t normally have any appear.

Either they have a hierarchy of ‘testers’ or their devoted readers put in ‘complaints’ that are then acted on.

They can’t, surely, believe that this impresses anyone. Those who are experiencing it know, beyond all doubt, just how controlled and ‘engineered’ is supposed ‘public comment’ – and why on no account will they vote for the Left wing.
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August 10, 2017 3:17pm
- GoVege
  
  They seem pretty easy-going around here, Anne.
  What on earth have you been saying?
  
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  August 10, 2017 3:40pm
  - Anne Glen Eden
    
    In common with some of our conversations yesterday, I said there, as here earlier:
    
    “Bill English is a human, wholesome, and responsible leader of the governance of the country – who clearly cares passionately for NZ and its people, even if he doesn’t show it effusively. He is exceptionally committed to it. He has lots of ‘skin in the game’, having created and raised an extensive family and persevered through political ups and downs which few others have survived. He’s certainly not in it ‘for a good time’. He’s in it ‘for a long time’. And he’s done it with humility, aplomb, and respect – also with success, given NZ is currently better off than many countries in the world.”
    
    But while it’s been removed, it’s also produced the response:
    
    “Anne, it seems that you are the one obsessed with image. The personal attacks you have made against Ardern based purely on her image in this thread are there for all to see. Your choice of language suggests you consider suitability for the job, in part, should be based on outdated “wholesome” and “decent” christian values. This is very flawed thinking, you need to get past your very obvious prejudice.”
    
    It wasn’t you, was it GoVege? Because I never once mentioned either ‘Christian’ or ‘decent’.
    
    In fact I’ve just responded (but doubt it will get to print):
    
    Interesting. The only place I’ve used the word ‘wholesome’ was in talking about Bill English – a comment that has been removed by the ‘moderators’.
    
    I assume that they – or you – assume I was meaning ‘Christian’ – I wasn’t; or heterosexual – I wasn’t. It isn’t me who is ‘prejudiced’ – it’s you and the moderators and/or complainers who insist on putting thoughts into my mind and meanings into my words which don’t exist. By what right? For heaven’s sake – ‘wholesome’ is now politically incorrect?
    
    I meant, by ‘wholesome’, that he is not a noxious or toxic personality who abuses or bullies others e.g. calling other people ‘doctor of death’. He lives and speaks with integrity (Yes, I know he’s a politician but he’s not Turei), fronts up to criticism and hard subjects, appears to live a healthy and responsible lifestyle which is an acceptable model for young and all, honours his commitments to himself, his colleagues, his family, and his country.
    
    I have not attacked Ardern. I have said that she is a completely unknown quantity outside of her appearance – which to my mind does not qualify her to be PM. And anyone who thinks it does is not worthy of a vote.
    
    I’ve also said I will assess both Labour and her according to their willingness to respond to what voters want, rather than ideology, and policies – specifically those which will provide significant benefit to the whole country, more particularly the most vulnerable, and specifically in the next three years rather than in some distant future if it pans out well.
    
    If you think that is a ‘personal attack’, well, that’s why I stopped voting for the Left.
    
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    August 10, 2017 4:47pm
    - itstricky
      
      I meant, by ‘wholesome’, that he is not a noxious or toxic personality who abuses or bullies others e.g. calling other people ‘doctor of death’
      
      So, who was it that had an image of Bill holding up a sign saying Helen was a ‘Mad Cow’
      
      Nah, couldn’t have been. Must have been a photoshop.
      
      There he is, wholesome old William
      
      https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/nzlabour/pages/5643/attachments/original/1484189140/image001.jpg?1484189140
      
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      August 10, 2017 4:58pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        On the one hand, I’ve never seen it. And I could say it shouldn’t be said – it shouldn’t.
        
        On the other hand, it’s a colloquialism from a past generation that goes along with things like ‘old biddy’ and ‘silly bitch’ – and is also presumably some play on words about farming cows, given he’s sitting on a tractor.
        
        There is a difference in context between the sign and walking up to someone saying, “You’re a mad cow’ or “She’s a mad cow” which would be unforgivable.
        
        Brings to mind a situation my father once described, being stuck in a traffic jam in Customs Street, behind a woman who had stalled her car, a Traffic Cop behind her – who turned on his loudspeaker, told all the people hooting and honking to control themselves. He very politely told the woman to take her time, be calm, and restart the car.
        
        She did. And promptly put it in reverse and backed solidly into the Traffic car behind her. Unfortunately, the Traffic Cop forgot he had his loudspeaker on and said, “God. Look what the silly bitch has gone and done now.” Nobody honked anymore – they were paralysed with laughter.
        
        It’s not the best – and I’m sure he’d be crucified for it today. But that was then – and doesn’t equate with him walking up to her and calling her a ‘silly bitch’ which also would have been unforgivable.
        
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        August 10, 2017 5:17pm
      - itstricky
        
        Golly, what a lot of justification.
        
        You started off well – “oh I hadn’t see that”. An omission. But you then quickly digressed into a justify-fest.
        
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        August 10, 2017 6:47pm
      - itstricky
        
        But yes, I agree, old terminology. Still not the best thing to say, and certainly doesn’t give him the clean sheet you think he has. Who cares, at the end of the day. They (politicians) all say spiteful things to win the crowd. I think it’s just worth pointing out that they are not as different as you think they may be.
        
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        August 10, 2017 6:54pm
    - itstricky
      
      (Yes, I know he’s a politician but he’s not Turei)
      
      You do know why he got the nick name ‘double Dipper from Dipton’ don’t you?
      
      Let me give you a clue… Something very similar to Turei’s transgression…
      
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      August 10, 2017 5:04pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        That was explored, compared, contrasted, and dealt with in the news just a couple of days ago.
        
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        August 10, 2017 5:21pm
      - starboard
        
        Go to the pub sticky..nobodys listening
        
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        August 10, 2017 5:59pm
      - itstricky
        
        That’s weird, because clearly you are.
        
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        August 10, 2017 6:45pm
      - itstricky
        
        That was explored, compared, contrasted
        
        Aha, so you do know that they’re not -that- different from each other.
        
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        August 10, 2017 6:49pm
    - GoVege
      
      I never saw your post, Anne.
      I hope you are not going paranoid on us….it’s quite common among brainy types like yourself.
      I think English is basically a very decent man.
      For the first time in my life I am actually tempted to vote for the gnats because he is one gnat leader with a social conscience.
      I couldn’t care less that he’s a Christian. ..although he should be admonished for adding to world overpopulation… 🙂
      
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      August 10, 2017 9:47pm
Manolo

Europe is lost, the invaders continue to arrive unimpeded:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4777084/Boat-carrying-African-migrants-arrives-Spanish-beach.html

A boat carrying dozens of African migrants landed on a Spanish beach in front of shocked holidaymakers.

Footage shows the migrants leaping out of a black inflatable dinghy and dashing across the sand on beaches at Cadiz in southern Spain, after crossing the Strait of Gibraltar.
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August 10, 2017 3:22pm
Happychappy

Winston First is tossing his toys out of the cot because Mike Hoskings is the moderator in the three political debates on TV One. This from a Politician that has a habit of demanding but gives sweet fanny adams back and quick to tell others what should happen but won’t accept the same rules for himself. Winston is pissed as he is only in the last debate and no mater what he tries or says they will not change the rules, so now the over rated has been wants to incìte the public to create a stir.
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August 10, 2017 4:24pm
- Gabby
  
  Win knows Horeskin is just a crappy entertainer chappy because Horeskin said that’s what he is.
  
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  August 10, 2017 5:15pm
- realityczech
  
  Winston who is preferred Prime Minister in all polls in recent years ? No wonder National party fanboys are worried.
  
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  August 10, 2017 7:27pm
  - Happychappy
    
    RealityCzech : You changing your party again and can you post when Peters was last preferred Prime Minister in any poll.
    
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    August 10, 2017 7:36pm
    - realityczech
      
      All polls in the last few years aside from the distorted recent one… after Key and English of course.
      
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      August 10, 2017 7:56pm
mikenmild

Has Trump responded to North Korea’s latest threats with “fire and fury like the world has never seen” yet?
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August 10, 2017 4:44pm
- dad4justice
  
  Obviously you don’t have sons that will be drafted when the shit hits the fan with a possible massive threat of war? Go crawl back into your hole.
  
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  August 10, 2017 4:54pm
  - Gabby
    
    Have you got North Korean kids dud?
    
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    August 10, 2017 4:58pm
    - dad4justice
      
      F##k off Gobby are you Peter Davis?
      
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      August 10, 2017 4:59pm
      - Gabby
        
        Funkoff dud are you crying because your North Korean kids are in North Korea?
        
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        August 10, 2017 5:17pm
      - stigie
        
        What Dad wants to know Gobby is do you give a good blowy..?
        
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        August 10, 2017 5:31pm
      - dad4justice
        
        F##k off stigfly you perverted non identity. Get a life other than stalking me you sick creep. Coward say that to my face! Yeah right.
        
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        August 10, 2017 6:02pm
      - Gabby
        
        Dud stinkie thinks you’re after a blowy. Of course I’m not really sure what that is, but apply to ‘him’ below if that’s the case.
        
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        August 10, 2017 6:26pm
      - Gabby
        
        Has he got North Korean kids dud?
        
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        August 10, 2017 6:31pm
- itstricky
  
  I’m still breathing, so I guess not.
  
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  August 10, 2017 4:55pm
  - itstricky
    
    And KBers are still telling people to f* off. Not in a nasty leftie kind of way, though, mind you. Status quo, no nukes.
    
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    August 10, 2017 5:06pm
- Happychappy
  
  MM : You would have known Francis Weever when he was in the public service.
  
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  August 10, 2017 5:34pm
  - mikenmild
    
    He was a big PSA man, but turned to the dark side where his bullying was better placed.
    
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    August 10, 2017 7:17pm
    - Happychappy
      
      MM: But doesn’t that happen to all Union Leaders. He actually helped me out in the in the early 1980’s
      
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      August 10, 2017 7:48pm
    - mikenmild
      
      The funniest thing I ever was in the PSA was when some of their organisers and office staff joined the Clerical Workers’ Union so that they could stir up some shit.
      
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      August 10, 2017 8:10pm
itstricky

The man is a menace to society. Any previous thoughts he could be moderated are wiped out by the fact that he has a trigger happy Twitter finger. And The Big Man on his side. Oh yes, that old chestnut war starter.
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August 10, 2017 5:27pm
- holysheet
  
  The only way to get rid of a bully is to stand up to them. Diplomacy doesn’t always work. By saying what he has said, Trump has put NK on notice that if they are stupid enough to do anything then the consequences will be on them.
  Good on him.
  
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  August 10, 2017 5:40pm
  - nasska
    
    The alternative is appeasement.
    
    I haven’t seen that working out too well for a while.
    
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    August 10, 2017 5:59pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      But but but Obama said to Putin “cut it out”
      That worked/ sarc
      
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      August 10, 2017 7:39pm
- Fletch
  
  We’ve forfeited years of hawkish foreign policy in an effort to make the rest of the world feel better. Now, with a North Korean nuke knocking on our door, it’s time to grow some chest hair and put the obese agitator back in his place.
  
  The media will try to twist Trump’s confrontational narrative of male masculinity into a toxic and dangerous international strategy. They’ll try to portray him as more of a madman than Kim Jong Un.
  
  But the idea of toxic masculinity has gone far enough. You tell me what’s more toxic: men who are willing to be men and fight the scourge of evil in the world, or radioactive poison unleashed on millions of innocent Americans?
  
  Trump is talking to Kim Jong Un in a language that he actually understands. America now has a president that isn’t afraid to fight back. Gone are the days of strategic talks, red lines, and empty threats. While Kim Jong Un may not listen to Trump, he probably respects the matched bravado.
  
  Kim Jong Un is a dictator. He has no interest in civilized discussion. He’s saber rattling. Trump is now doing it back. And for anybody who doubts this approach, I advise you to take a look at history and see how we got here.
  
  I sleep soundly at night knowing that Trump isn’t afraid to be a man; neither are his top military strategists. They aren’t afraid to protect their own. Trump isn’t apologizing for American world leadership. He’s rising to the occasion. And if it offends you, go to North Korea and do the negotiating yourself.
  
  http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/09/north-korean-threat-is-a-reminder-that-men-need-to-start-being-men-again/
  
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  August 10, 2017 7:16pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Rather scarily, we have come to the point where we will have to rely on one of the leaders of North Korea or the United States to act rationally. Kim Jong-un – step on up.
    
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    August 10, 2017 7:24pm
    - realityczech
      
      Ha funny. But it was the ignorant Obama who soured things with them and Russia too.
      
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      August 10, 2017 7:34pm
    - nasska
      
      Remind me of how the Kellogg-Briand Pact of 1931 or the Munich Agreement of 1938 worked for world peace.
      
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      August 10, 2017 7:47pm
      - realityczech
        
        Obama was brown. Trump is not. Therefore Trump is bad.
        
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        August 10, 2017 7:50pm
      - mikenmild
        
        True nasska. Every time the Yanks have a disagreement with someone they should invade them or nuke them, or both.
        
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        August 10, 2017 8:00pm
      - nasska
        
        I seem to recollect that the cause of the present disagreement was NK threatening to lob nukes onto the US mainland.
        
        Trump has responded to a threat. What do you think he should do instead?
        
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        August 10, 2017 8:04pm
      - realityczech
        
        nasska, that is propaganda for internal consumption. There is no way NK would do that. Trump has stupidly started sounding like Kim.
        
        Pull your head our of your arse. It is the USA posturing its military off the coast of NK, not NK posturing on the borders of the USA. Are you retarded ?
        
        Do you honestly suggest a full on war killing countless people is justified over a bunch of macho words by idiot politicians ?
        
        You egg.
        
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        August 10, 2017 8:08pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Mikey forgot the third option.
        Pay them with a Plane load of cash.
        Moolah for the Mullah.
        #Danegelt
        
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        August 10, 2017 8:12pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Remind me of how…..the Munich Agreement of 1938 worked for world peace
        
        The real root cause of WWII was the Versailles Treaty, the wicked impositions it imposed on Germany and the failure of the treaty to incorporate Wilson’s “14 point plan” which encouraged German leaders to stop the slaughter and pursue for peace when they were still deep in French territory.
        
        In particular, the architects of Versailles threw Wilsons “self determination” out the window and created all sorts of bastard countries (the forerunner of multiculturalism) whereby large minorities were ruled over by foreigners.
        
        Fast forward to 1939, Poland, encouraged by the backing of France and the Sassoon family of Britain were persecuting and killing their minority German population (in an area that had been a German territory for hundreds of years) forcing Germany to act.
        
        Even in August 1939, there was still no need for WWII if only Poland would give back to Germany territory that had been German for hundred of years. Remember, France and Britain declared war on Germany first. They also didn’t declare on Soviet Russia who also invaded Poland showing that their intention was never to defend Poland, but rather attack and destroy Germany and their flourishing Commerce system that didn’t require International Finance
        
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        August 10, 2017 8:42pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Back with the Nazi apologia again?
        How should we solve the Jewish problem?
        
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        August 10, 2017 8:46pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        realityczech
        Actually the trumpets new spray tan is pooh brown
        He now looks like a shitehead.
        
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        August 10, 2017 8:51pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Milkmaid – your lack of ability to engage rationally without hyperventilating and dramatics really makes you look stupid and makes you look as if you’d rather all discussion was shut down rather than allow people to think for themselves.
        
        Whether it is you attacking people who don’t believe the weather is going to fry us all to a crisp or that perhaps large scale 3rd world immigration might not be a good thing, the more you “silence dissenting views”, the more you wake up normal decent people.
        
        Keep going ol chap!
        
        PS: I thought you’d retired or were your dramatics on reaching 30k comments just an attention seeking rant?
        
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        August 10, 2017 8:53pm
      - Shawn Herles
        
        “True nasska. Every time the Yanks have a disagreement with someone they should invade them or nuke them, or both.”
        
        That really is a remarkably retarded comment. Oh, it’s milky, so I’m stating the obvious. 🙂
        
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        August 10, 2017 9:01pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Fast forward to 1939, Poland, encouraged by the backing of France and the Sassoon family of Britain were persecuting and killing their minority German population (in an area that had been a German territory for hundreds of years) forcing Germany to act.
        
        So, this is how Neo-Nazis (circa 2017) justify the invasion of Poland!
        
        EAD probably doesn’t realise that pretty much right up to a few months (or less) before the invasion, the Germans were still trying to convince Poland to join forces to invade the USSR.
        
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        August 10, 2017 9:35pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Those poor, picked-on Nazis, huh? Attacked successively by the Czechs, Poles, Danes, Norwegians, Dutch and Belgians, what was poor Adolf to do?
        
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        August 10, 2017 9:36pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Sigh
        
        Lucia – right up until Hitler invaded Poland, he’d been asking their government to protect the Germans living in the Danzig corridor and when they refused, he demanded that Germany reclaim this land that had been Prussian for centuries.
        
        Err Milkaid – Czech Republic wasn’t an invasion, see above for Poland. Denmark offered free passage on the way to Norway which had given British Naval ships and troops berths in their Harbours thus you can hardly say they were neutral.
        
        I agree with your point on Belgium & Holland who were neutral but how else was one supposed to get around the Maginot Line?
        
        If you are honest with yourself and have actually read any utterances from the German National Socialists, all they desired was to reunite the German people in one country and defeat the Soviet Union.
        
        After witnessing the horrors of the Bolsheviks and what they had done to Christians in Russia/Ukraine, the Nazis rather understandably wanted to neutralise the threat to the European peoples. That is why so many different nations of people joined the Whermacht in the largest multicultural army of all time – to defeat the scourge of Marxism/Bolshevism.
        
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        August 10, 2017 10:31pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Thanks for clearing that up, Dr Goebbels.
        
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        August 11, 2017 6:35am
  - realityczech
    
    Errr Fletch, Obama kept the US at war longer than any other president and dropped 76 bombs for every day he was in power.
    
    Not “hawkish” enough for your tastes ?
    
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    August 10, 2017 8:49pm
    - Shawn Herles
      
      “Not “hawkish” enough for your tastes ?”
      
      No.
      
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      August 10, 2017 9:03pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Where to invade next? North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela? So many choices.
        With the toddler-in-chief, what happens next?
        
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        August 10, 2017 9:12pm
Southern Raider

Fantastic.

Just received my Auckland Rates notice and they proudly tell me that a living wage for all council staff was approved as part of the budget.

Great that makes me really proud to be an Aucklander…..I wonder who’s paying for this… oh fuck it’s me
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August 10, 2017 6:00pm
starboard

Another maori found with his dirty fingers in the pie..tsk tsk tsk.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/95654927/travel-expenses-part-of-investigation-into-waikato-dhb-boss
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August 10, 2017 6:25pm
- Inandout
  
  What are his qualifications to have such a high office, other than being a Moddie?
  
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  August 10, 2017 6:40pm
  - starboard
    
    Fat fingers..
    
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    August 10, 2017 6:46pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Meh, amateurs compared to the thieving fuckers at the EU
      ‘The eye-watering travel bill racked up by unelected European Commissioners was finally made public today after campaigners waged a three year battle to access their expenses claims. The hard-won disclosure reveals the 28 Commissioners spent almost half a million Euro on visits during the first two months of 2016 alone (the only period for which documents have been released). A dossier of claims submitted by Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker includes an astonishing €27,000 bill for a two-day trip to Rome on a private jet. A good wine list no doubt…’
      https://order-order.com/2017/08/09/junckers-junkets-commissioners-spend-e500000-travel-two-months/
      
      THREE years to get disclosure!
      
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      August 10, 2017 8:00pm
      - Gabby
        
        Junckie’s awesome. He’s probably rearranged the Luxemburg tax laws so he can claim it all back as well as spending it. He opposes Brexit because it would cut seriously into his drinks budget.
        
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        August 10, 2017 9:25pm
RF

I am not being nasty and just guilty of stating a fact.

I was watching the ice queen on TV tonight and the camera zoomed up on to her choppers.

They have suddenly enlarged to a size you would normally see in the many cartoons.

They are gynormous.
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August 10, 2017 6:30pm
- Gabby
  
  That’s what a zoom lens does rf rf. Like when you beat up a suspect and the photograph of the damage is really big, like way bigger than the bruise.
  
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  August 10, 2017 6:53pm
- nasska
  
  If they were part of a National MP’s dental arrangements the media would call her a walrus.
  
  But it’s different for the left.
  
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  August 10, 2017 7:01pm
  - Gabby
    
    Rotties prefer Ponies don’t they nassty.
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:21pm
realityczech

New Zealand’s most extreme communist party continues to fall apart…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95653001/ousted-green-mps-split-over-wanting-to-return-to-the-party-after-coleaders-resignation
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August 10, 2017 7:43pm
RF

Christ… don’t we have enough Saints in NZ.

A lefty who pollutes the standard going by the name of Stephanie Rodgers has been grovelling at the feet of Crooked Metiria.

She was on News Talk ZB this morning singing the praises of the crook.

FFS the Toad is a thief who hopefully will soon be fronting a judge to answer for her criminal activity.

Up until now I used to think the green movement were just a bunch of wankers. Now I am convinced they are nothing but scum criminals.
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August 10, 2017 7:51pm
- realityczech
  
  MSD need to monitored from here on. This is not over. Charges need to be laid and if not questions should be asked.
  
  In reality the courts will treat her very leniently due to many factors. I would be happy with CONVICTED ordered to pay reparation but no penalty.
  
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  August 10, 2017 8:12pm
Southern Raider

A gang of 18 men in their 30s to 40s have been arrested in the U.K. for over 400 sexual assaults against young and vulnerable women

Cops said they came from a range of countries including Bangladesh, Iran, Pakistan, Albania, Turkey, Iraq, Kurdistan etc

Anything similar about people from these countries that could have led to this offending?
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August 10, 2017 9:02pm
- Shawn Herles
  
  “Anything similar about people from these countries that could have led to this offending?”
  
  I’m going to go out on a limb and say Islam.
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:05pm
  - Southern Raider
    
    That’s racist Shawn
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:14pm
- Gabby
  
  Are they builders?
  
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  August 10, 2017 9:22pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Are they fuckwits like Gobby?
    
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    August 10, 2017 9:33pm
    - Gabby
      
      Are their gruts crusty?
      
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      August 10, 2017 9:42pm
Manolo

Have a laugh: the Green fraudster is on the list.
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/new-zealander-of-the-year-a-varied-lot/ar-AApPtBr?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=mailsignout
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