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Every so often you read a story that makes you realise just how disconnected the city folks have become from rural reality:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11883083
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July 2, 2017 8:04am
- Longknives
  
  Jesus considering the Greens have managed to ban the Sausage Sizzle for School Fundraising this School has got no chance of getting away with hunting Possums..
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:09am
  - srylands
    
    The issue is not the hunt. It is about drowning the young possums. They should be killed with a blow to the head with a hammer.
    
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    July 2, 2017 8:30am
    - SGA
      
      And, given the particular circumstances, probably a better look to put an adult in charge of that part of the operation.
      
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      July 2, 2017 8:43am
    - BananaLlama
      
      Srylands is correct it is inhumane to drown them. I hook them up to an exhaust pipe and gas the commie buggers.
      
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      July 2, 2017 9:15am
      - holysheet
        
        I didn’t know we were talking about the greens
        
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        July 2, 2017 9:25am
  - Disaster Area
    
    considering the Greens have managed to ban the Sausage Sizzle for School Fundraising
    
    Do you have any evidence for this?
    
    It comes as some surprise to me, as all of the schools I have worked in hold, sausage sizzles, bake sales and the like.
    
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    July 2, 2017 10:10am
- SGA
  
  From your article –
  
  Drowning animals is illegal under the Animal Welfare Act and is punishable by a fine up to $75,000 or a maximum three years’ imprisonment.
  
  That’s something I didn’t know (and handy to know). Where (and when) I grew up, drowning unwanted kittens was pretty standard.
  Given that’s the case, I can see why some modification to their procedure is necessary.
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:19am
  - G152
    
    So if a swimmer drowns who is responsible under this idiotic law
    
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    July 2, 2017 8:52am
    - SGA
      
      huh? Sorry, I can’t follow your reasoning.
      
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      July 2, 2017 8:57am
    - Gabby
      
      If you drown the swimmer I’m pretty sure you would be responsible. The one down three to go teach your kids to swim the g152 way may need revising.
      
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      July 2, 2017 9:33am
- VicParking
  
  90% of it is just a Snowflake using it to moan and complain about life in general. A reason it get a few more likes on facebook, sell some more newspapers or get some more followers on twitter.
  Never seen a Home kill or a wild pig being “Stuck”.
  There worse moments in life come from NCIS New York or Housewives of LA.
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:20am
- Gruffydd
  
  Vermin kill it .
  Hunting why bother?
  Poison or traps work better .
  The good nature self setting trap works well at eradicating the tree munching tb vectors.
  https://www.goodnature.co.nz/
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:25am
- GoVege
  
  Totally disgusting and primitive . …
  
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  July 2, 2017 7:14pm
Manolo

A little late for Italy: almost 80,000 invaders have arrived in 2017.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4656162/Aid-agencies-encourage-migrants-Med-says-senator.html
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July 2, 2017 8:14am
- MCos
  
  Most of those refugees/migrants depart from Libya, which is a shambles at the moment partially due to actions by NATO, including Italy, a few years back.
  
  By the way, when it came to invading other countries Italy was no shrinking violet not so long ago.
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:39am
- kowtow
  
  Ah but look at the enrichment they’re bringing.
  
  “Following one reported rape and several sexual assaults at this year’s Bråvalla music festival, there will be no festival in 2018, the organisers said on Saturday.”
  
  https://www.thelocal.se/20170701/swedish-music-festival-cancels-next-years-event-amid-rape-reports
  
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  July 2, 2017 10:59am
big bruv

Wow!, the sun did come up this morning, this comes as some surprise to be honest given that the NZ national rugby team lost last night.
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July 2, 2017 8:16am
- Nostalgia-NZ
  
  Fascinating game, sets up the cup final next week beautifully.
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:18am
  - SGA
    
    Not sure why Cruden(?) went for that high risk cross kick in the dying minutes. We were making good progress closer in (and there was always a good chance of a penalty to at least get the draw).
    
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    July 2, 2017 8:25am
    - Nostalgia-NZ
      
      Can’t explain it. Many players out of position for the majority of the game so that rallied well in the circumstances. Have liked the look of the Lions backs since last week, maybe in the final game they’ll get more free licence to run.
      
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      July 2, 2017 8:38am
  - VicParking
    
    The French Ref and the weather were going to play a major part in the game and they did. Not counting the sending of of “New Zealands greatest sportsman” offcourse which was a fair call.
    
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    July 2, 2017 8:26am
    - Nostalgia-NZ
      
      Yes it was a fair call. He hit a ball carrying player high, didn’t use his arms in the tackle and connected with the elbow. The Lions prop hit a player lying on the ground without the ball and away from play high as well, also with the elbow. The props second hit on the same player in a few minutes. No one is moaning about that.
      
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      July 2, 2017 8:36am
      - Colville
        
        None of the pom media mentions the swinging arm that concussed Naholo went totally unpunished.
        
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        July 2, 2017 8:47am
      - marcw
        
        Got to agree with Colville – is the Citing Commissioner taking braille lessons? Clear as day Naholo took a straight arm to the head while being held in a tackle. I can’t explain why the offender isn’t being called to account today.
        
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        July 2, 2017 10:05am
      - calendar girl
        
        He is: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11884888
        
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        July 2, 2017 12:54pm
    - cmm
      
      I thought praying etc lead to better self control? Surely if you do it 5 times a day you must be the most peaceful and controlled bloke in the world.
      
      I am truly amazed!
      
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      July 2, 2017 9:03am
    - oldpark
      
      Think he was not so good. How about the frog ref who did the Hurricanes Game v Lions last Tuesday. He is in charge of the last chance hotel, or the Third Test in Auckland next Saturday.Will be a game of nail biting frustrated viewers,when froggy ref ,ends up not knowing his arse from his elbow. Result will be a lottery,best bet will be a no bet at the TAB,who cleaned up last night.
      
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      July 2, 2017 9:46am
    - ex-golfer
      
      Geez Veitch is looking rough.
      Has someone thrown him down a set of stairs or something?
      
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      July 2, 2017 2:09pm
      - GoVege
        
        And kicked him in the back too by the look of him.
        
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        July 2, 2017 7:16pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Sonny Bill Dickhead is probably wondering why nobody is talking to him at breakfast.
    Idiot.
    
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    July 2, 2017 8:56am
    - Inandout
      
      It got a bit tiresome when the cameraman kept panning back to SBW sitting all forlorn in the converted bus shelter. The video operator either was either named Abdul, or he had a fixation with the tattooed arm one.
      
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      July 2, 2017 9:15am
      - holysheet
        
        Who cares about yesterdays idiot. To much headbanging has affected what little brain sunni used to have.
        
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        July 2, 2017 9:29am
    - RF
      
      The wagons are being circled…
      
      Kaino is sorry for SBW who will be feeling that the shoulder charge was all his fault.
      
      FFS…. the understatement of the year. What is this idiot smoking…..
      
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      July 2, 2017 10:06am
- Manolo
  
  No excuse can be given, the Lions deserved the win.
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:31am
  - pdm
    
    I tend to agree Manolo – 2 tries to none is fairly conclusive.
    
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    July 2, 2017 9:46am
  - MCos
    
    I didn’t think either team deserved to win. The Lions were terrible for long periods after SBW departed when they should have been piling on the points. Barrett kept the ABs in the game as a consequence of Lions poor discipline..
    Suddenly the Lions noticed the ABs were down a bloke, swung the ball back and forth and scored a couple of tries.
    If the Lions get their shit together against what will be a second string backline next week they should wrap it up, but the Black jersey does something to a bloke . . . .
    
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    July 2, 2017 9:58am
Happychappy

Isn’t good that we have one honest Journalist in NZ that is willing to tell the truth and post a column on slave gate in the Herald, well done Paul Little and lets hope that others will follow your example and start printing the facts of Andrew Little and Labours cover up of Political fraud.
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July 2, 2017 8:23am
- VicParking
  
  Dont hold your breath
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:26am
- 4077th
  
  The usual trolls here have obviously been given orders from Fraser House the STFU and leave the subject alone. I hope David Carter does his job (sooner rather than later) and investigates the spending.
  
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  July 2, 2017 10:54am
- lifesgood
  
  Wow! And the Herald printed it??!!!
  
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  July 2, 2017 10:58am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    If they printed all of the stories that they should, their readership would increase markedly. No more financial woes.
    
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    July 2, 2017 10:14pm
Longknives

Ali Mau saw a fight in a Queenstown Bar (That’s what happens when you go to bars full of people twenty years younger than you Ali) and she is very upset-
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/94267988/alison-mau-caught-up-in-an-ugly-bar-brawl-its-time-to-address-nzs-alcohol-carnage

Oh the Humanity! Ali seems to have decided that Alcohol must be banned- But she also strangely puts in a dig about Racist Police sending all those poor, innocent Maori to Prison for Drugs…
So Drugs good/Alcohol bad eh Ali??
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July 2, 2017 8:24am
- nasska
  
  Did you read this bit Longknives?
  
  …..”I grew up post-Nixon; came to political consciousness in the Reagan era. “Just Say No” was a serious goal. But those who still think we can police and convict our way out of this mess look like simpletons, standing with their hands over their ears and chanting “LALALALA, I CAN’T HEAR YOU””…..
  
  Sounds just like today’s social conservatives……all mouth….no new ideas.
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:41am
  - Longknives
    
    Sorry Nasska I wasn’t listening…
    
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    July 2, 2017 1:01pm
- Gruffydd
  
  So Drugs good/Alcohol bad eh
  
  Alcohol is just another drug.
  That is what she is bringing up.
  We allow a drug that results in such carnage and persecute many for using ones that are less likely to result in random acts of violence.
  Sell pot you get locked up.
  Sell alcohol you get a knight hood.
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:44am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Ali Mau is confused about whether the person she is engaged to is her fiancée or her fiancé.
  
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  July 2, 2017 9:19am
  - holysheet
    
    Too much alcohol has that affect on you.
    
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    July 2, 2017 9:31am
    - Inandout
      
      Or too much carpet fluff in the lungs.
      
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      July 2, 2017 9:50am
      - holysheet
        
        Or too much carpet ~~fluff~~ muff in the lungs.
        There that’s better.
        
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        July 2, 2017 10:05am
  - ztev
    
    The engagement was back in 2012
    
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    July 2, 2017 9:50am
  - lifesgood
    
    She’s confused about a lot I suggest.
    
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    July 2, 2017 10:59am
- kowtow
  
  “The entire two days is sold out, like a public policy Glastonbury. It will be riveting, and challenging, and we might just come away with a plan. I’ll keep you posted.”
  
  Glastonbury? What planet do these wealthy out of touch urban elitists live on?
  
  Here’s how an English journo described it
  
  “The precise moment Glasto’s credibility went toes-up was when Radiohead’s jazz-for-postgrads set was interrupted by a mindless, repetitive chant of “Oh Jeremy Corbyn!” to the tune of the White Stripes’ Seven Nation Army.
  
  Because nothing sums up the inequality of austerity-hit Britain better than 100,000 metropolitan liberals who’d paid £243 each to stand in a field, chanting “Oh Jeremy Corbyn!” while live streaming it to YouTube on their iPhone 7s.”
  
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  July 2, 2017 10:06am
- kowtow
  
  BTW the whole item is fake news.
  First she wasn’t “caught up” , she was a witness .Second it could hardly have been an ugly brawl as her partner , a small woman , broke it up with a nasty stare. third there’s no report of police being called or injuries.
  
  More bullshit from the media elites whom so many have come to despise for their lies, hypocrisy and preachey, holier than thou reverse racist opinions that are out of touch with the mainstream .
  
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  July 2, 2017 10:44am
- 4077th
  
  Cloth-eared-Bint
  
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  July 2, 2017 10:57am
- noskire
  
  That “opinion piece” has to be one of the largest pieces of drivel I have seen in the NZ MSM for sometime.
  Aside from the shambolic rambling, and acknowledging that Mau is a born-again rug muncher (with bonus points for engaging a Maori rug-muncher), it was a pitiful waste of the scroll-wheel on my mouse.
  
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  July 2, 2017 7:53pm
Odakyu-sen

“So Drugs good/Alcohol bad eh Ali??”

You can’t have freedom without responsibility.

If drugs/alcohol are the “freedom,” then using them appropriately is a “responsibility.”

(Pulls out Sunday Soapbox)
In modern post-modern society, the over-emphasis of “freedom” and a corresponding lack of emphasis on “responsibility” has resulted in a greater dependence upon the State.

(Puts on tinfoil hat)
Maybe that was the plan all along…
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July 2, 2017 8:33am
- Kevinnz
  
  If drugs/alcohol are the “freedom,” then using them appropriately is a “responsibility.”
  
  Basically. And the law should be such that it punishes the irresponsible and leaves the responsible users alone.
  
  Except it doesn’t. If anything it allows the irresponsible a free ride by allowing them to use the excuse of “I’m an addict.”
  
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  July 2, 2017 10:29am
Monique Watson

I believe in Steve.
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July 2, 2017 8:38am
Monique Watson

Oh Fuck. Is The Horrid serving up a bucket load of detritus and shit again today? Jeezus.
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July 2, 2017 8:41am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I just love the surprise in your post!
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:54am
- MCos
  
  Are familiar with the expression ‘pot calling the kettle black’, Monique?
  
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  July 2, 2017 9:40am
  - thedavincimode
    
    More a case of hitting the sauce (which starts at about her lunchtime) and looking for attention.
    
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    July 2, 2017 10:27am
CJames

If a backbench MP wants to be relevant, rather than just lobby fodder, why doesn’t one of them put forward a bill on wills for the biscuit tin draw. We currently have the stupid situation where someone can have a perfectly legal will, leaving all their money to the Battersea Dogs Home or whatever. When they die, their delinquent adult children appeal the will and some activist judge decides the parent should have left their money to the kids. What is the purpose of a will if it can be over-ruled by a judge who doesn’t know or listen to the actual circumstances?
That is an injustice at needs to be righted.
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July 2, 2017 8:51am
- ztev
  
  Its not an activist judge as the law was changed so that you have to make adequate provision for family members, or a judge will
  Family Protection Act 1955
  
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  July 2, 2017 9:54am
  - wiseowl
    
    Family members may well have acted in a way that they should not be rewarded.
    The Law needs changing along with the Relationship property Act that was retrospective and is destroying many guys in this country.
    
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    July 2, 2017 9:58am
    - ztev
      
      yeah right. You and the Blokes protection party are going to do that
      
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      July 2, 2017 10:27am
  - CJames
    
    Didn’t a judge decide about 15 -20 years ago that the children that the Act talks about also mean adult offspring? That was the activism, extending the definition.
    
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    July 2, 2017 11:58am
  - Flash
    
    Even if they are no-hoper middle aged adults?
    
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    July 2, 2017 12:11pm
- Nookin
  
  The concept of a testator’s obligation to maintain his/her family goes back to 1906. The first FPA was passed in 1908 and updated in 1955.
  
  There was a further shakeup during the Clark years –when civil union partners and de facto partners became eligible to claim.
  
  At the same time the classes of those eligible to claim became more confined –esp in the case of grandchildren and step children.
  
  Adult children have always been able to claim.
  
  The court does not re-write the will. It’s function is to identify whether the testator owed a moral duty to provide for an eligible claimant. The court will make provision (or further provision) to the extent that the testator was in breach of that duty.
  
  Activism does not come into it. A body of consistent judicial decision making going back over 100 years is hardly activism.
  
  You hate the idea? Try this one. Bikey father of three, mum on the benefit, wins lotto. Bikey rides into tree and leaves entire estate to bikey gang — kids get nowt and mum stays on the benefit. Still want to scrap that law?
  
  Delinquent or estranged kids do not necessarily succeed.
  
  The Property [Relationship ] Act — formerly Matriimonial Property Act — has been around for over 40 years. You aren’t still grizzling, surely? The previous regime was a lawyer’s dream. Most cases went to court. There is not a great deal of political will to change it and nor should there be. It works.
  
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  July 2, 2017 9:15pm
BananaLlama

Silly Boy Muslim tried to mount a camel last night but got a red card instead.
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July 2, 2017 9:12am
- itstricky
  
  tried to mount a camel
  
  A cousin of yours?
  
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  July 2, 2017 9:41am
  - BananaLlama
    
    Sonny Bill its-a-red-son is no cousin of mine.
    
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    July 2, 2017 9:45am
    - itstricky
      
      No, the camel.
      
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      July 2, 2017 9:47am
      - BananaLlama
        
        Where? Oh that was a Lion you silly.
        
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        July 2, 2017 9:48am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        no squirrels available for this distraction?
        
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        July 2, 2017 9:53am
      - ztev
        
        The squirrels are helping police with their enquiries
        
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        July 2, 2017 9:55am
      - itstricky
        
        Do I have to spell it out?
        
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        July 2, 2017 9:59am
Southern Raider

Latest impact of over Govt regulation is under H&S law reform rock climbing walls are being closed

Auckland Grammar has closed the one on their schools grounds after they hired some consultant to do a risk assessment

Wellington Regional Council is looking to close down a rock face on the coast where Graham Dingle first learned to climb
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July 2, 2017 9:15am
itstricky

This has to be fake news by the MSM, right?

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2017/07/no-child-slave-colony-on-mars-nasa-says.html
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July 2, 2017 9:39am
- SGA
  
  Read carefully, itstricky. NASA are being very careful about what they say – there’s no child slave colony on Mars. Why did they word it that way? Why not just say there are no child slave colonies at all. Dark side of the moon is my guess. 🙂
  
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  July 2, 2017 10:06am
  - Gabby
    
    Behind the soundstage where they keep Fake Mars I believe.
    
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    July 2, 2017 10:16am
    - Longknives
      
      Capricorn One- A great 70s movie starring James Brolin, Telly Savalas and OJ Simpson! (The Conspiracy thickens?)
      
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      July 2, 2017 12:59pm
  - itstricky
    
    Oh, yes!
    
    Quick – do you have a copy of The Wizard of Oz? I’m sure we can find the right clues to its exact whereabouts!
    
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    July 2, 2017 10:17am
  - VicParking
    
    I read a CNN and NY Post article saying the slave colony’s are in Auckland New Zealand. College students were brought to NZ and made to live on Hogget flaps, kumera and cabbage while cold calling people to join a cult.
    
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    July 2, 2017 11:12am
wiseowl

National party members would do well to listen to Tony Abbotts’ recent speeches.
Turnbull is clearly in the globalisation camp and following Labour policies as is the National Party is here.All dictated by the UN.
Abbott is trying to get the party back on track and has been hitting hard the last couple of weeks.
Oh for an Abbbott or Bernadi in New Zealand.
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July 2, 2017 9:49am
- ztev
  
  Abbott. You mean the guy who broke so many
  pre -election promises when he became PM, and now is walking back on the policies he followed as PM. Plus hes no John Key, unpopular to boot
  
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  July 2, 2017 9:58am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Meh, the Senate blocks every PMs efforts. Look at Turnbull, he’s a lame duck.
    Oz needs to get rid of it.
    
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    July 2, 2017 10:52am
- Gruffydd
  
  We sell commodities on the global market place.
  You seem to think this market is a bad thing.
  Go back to NZ pre 26 July 1984? before we became on of the worlds most “globalist” country’s.
  Deserves a resounding Fuckoff.
  
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  July 2, 2017 10:41am
- All_on_Red
  
  Wiseowl
  Abbott is very pro free trade. As prime minister, Abbott set trade deals with Japan, China, and South Korea.
  He’s been pushing Turnbull to do deals with India and the U.K.
  
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  July 2, 2017 10:50am
Surely Knott

On the local government NZ website. (lgnz.co.nz) the top article is “NZ first’s campaign for the regions shows welcome commitment: LGNZ” . Aren’t they an industry body paid for and made up of representatives from our local councils. Is it really appropriate for them to be picking sides and involving themselves in party politics? Why do our council’s need a lobby group. And do the ratepayers pay.
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July 2, 2017 9:55am
BeeSting

The Very close to NZ City of

Melbourne

Installed Bollards to prevent Terror Attacks
in the CBD.

Melbourne was Pacific HQ in WW2
they never had to do that.

But it is WAR but it is WAR of a different kind.
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July 2, 2017 10:15am
- kowtow
  
  Same in “multicultural” Canada.
  
  “Authorities have already shut down central Ottawa streets and will place concrete barriers across entrances into Parliament Hill to try to prevent fatal incidents like those in London, Nice and Stockholm, where attackers rammed vehicles into crowds.”
  
  If Muslim immigration means we can’t celebrate nationhood or go about about our lawful business in safety as we always have done , then something is very wrong in the state of the west.
  
  http://globalnews.ca/news/3567179/ottawa-security-massive-canada-150-party/
  
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  July 2, 2017 1:18pm
BananaLlama

Shoulder Barge Sinbin
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July 2, 2017 10:21am
Jack5

Good Martin van Beynen article in the Christchurch Press about the likelihood of yet another sale to foreigners of an iconic South Island sheep station.

There will be a rush to get the sale approved before the election, but it ain’t going to help National get party votes.

Van Beynen is the reporter who did such a good job covering the second Bain trial.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/94289508/magnificent-40000-hectare-south-island-station-attracting-strong-interest-from-overseas-buyers
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July 2, 2017 10:34am
- Gabby
  
  Does it come with free citizenship?
  
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  July 2, 2017 11:19am
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    Only if the labour Government give Residency first – like Tiel.
    
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    July 2, 2017 1:46pm
Jack5

Where are the Stephiestanis? Did the Immigration Department finally catch up with them?

Or are they still on an end-of-Ramadan binge? Did they trade in quarter of a million downticks for extra arak?

(Ramadan ended on the evening of June 24 – last weekend. So the Stephies might be back quickly after they’re out of detox.)
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July 2, 2017 10:49am
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  5th strike – 13/06/17
  one month suspension
  
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  July 2, 2017 11:18am
- VicParking
  
  They have gone to Mt Roskill for a Hajj. Dont pick on the Boy he is only doing his best to be a kind and lenient muslim. Being part of the religion of Peace takes hard work and dedication. Every down tick is like a knife to his heart
  
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  July 2, 2017 11:23am
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    SBW will be at a hug-in this morning at stephie’s mosque.
    
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    July 2, 2017 11:45am
backster

CJames…..I agree the legislation around wills is diabolical. To place the power to overturn a will in the hands of lawyers is in my view sacrilegious. It is a law clearly designed to enrich lawyers as it frequently does. It is sad that a National Government can’t put such matters right.
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July 2, 2017 11:26am
DifferentPerspective

What are they hiding?

Seriously, if there is no electoral fraud in the US, why would so many states refuse to provide the evidence to demonstrate there is no fraud! Surely, if all is OK and no illegals or deceased are voting they’d be falling over themselves to stuff the proof up Trump’s nose!

There’s nothing quite as confirming as an official denial and sunlight is the best disinfectant.
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July 2, 2017 11:51am
- MCos
  
  The information that they are being requested to provide is outrageous
  Names & addresses
  Military status
  Voting record for ten years
  Party affiliation
  etc
  Sounds like the sort of thing someone like Assad might collect to find out why he only got 95% of the vote.
  
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  July 2, 2017 1:04pm
Ross12

This will interesting DP. I saw a guy from Trump’s panel on TV the other night saying the information requested is all publicly available information so I assume the request to the States was just to save some time. Now they’ll employee a few people to go through the records –maybe they will start with the 29 states complaining.
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  Voting record is publicly available?
  
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  July 2, 2017 4:04pm
Fletch

An ICE officer deftly handles questions on illegals immigrants at a press conference.

Q Sir, aren’t you concerned though about exacerbating fears about undocumented immigrants? You’re making it sound as if undocumented immigrants commit more crimes than people who are just native-born Americans. There was a Cato Institute study put out in March of this year that says all immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than native-born Americans relative to their shares of the population; even illegal immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than native-born Americans. What is your sense of the numbers on this? Are undocumented people more likely or less likely to commit crimes?

DIRECTOR HOMAN: I think you’re misinterpreting what I’m saying. What I’m saying is two things. Number one, people that enter this country illegally violate the laws of this country. You can’t want to be a part of this great nation and not respect its laws. So when you violate the laws of this country — and the taxpayers in this country spend billions of dollars a year on border security, immigration court, detention. And they go through a process. They get a decision from the immigration judge — most times will appeal to the Board of Immigration Appeals, then to a circuit court. When that due process is over, that final order from a federal judge needs to mean something or this whole system has no integrity.

I don’t know what other federal agency in this country is told to ignore a federal judge’s order from a bench. We are simply doing our job. Did I say aliens commit more crimes than U.S. citizens? I didn’t say that. I’m saying, number one, they’re in the country illegally. They’re in the country — they already committed one crime by entering the country illegally. But when they commit a crime against a citizen of this country, they draw our attention.

As far as fear in the immigrant community, I testified a couple weeks ago and I get a lot of media saying, well, you’re instilling fear in the immigrant community. My purpose is to dispel the notion that if you enter this country illegally and violate the laws of this nation, you should not be comfortable. None of us in this room would be comfortable if we go speeding down a highway. We’re going to think, maybe I’ll get a ticket. If you lie on your taxes you may get audited. Well, if you enter this country illegally, you should be concerned that someone is looking for you. You should be concerned because you violated the laws of this country.

Q And nobody wants to excuse lawbreaking, but what do you do with a family where a mother brings her children across the border, she has committed a crime in your view at that point by crossing the border illegally, she’s in this country with her two young children, those children grow up, become the so-called DREAMers in this country. Do you deport the mother and separate the mother from the family? Because what you’re saying — if you look at this from a cold and clinical standpoint, what you’re saying is because the mother crossed the border illegally, committed a crime, that she should be separated from her children. What do you say to that?

DIRECTOR HOMAN: Well, I got to tell you —

Q You’re not setting policy here. You’re here to talk about enforcement.

DIRECTOR HOMAN: I’m here — I’m here to —

Q But that enforcement has real impacts on people’s lives.

DIRECTOR HOMAN: U.S. citizen families get separated every day when a parent or when a parent gets arrested for a criminal charge. So those here illegally, they put themselves in that position.

So when it comes to separating families, when someone chooses to enter this country illegally and they’re here illegally and they choose to have a child that’s a U.S. citizen, they’ve put themselves in that position, not the U.S. government, not the ICE officers. So, again, we’re enforcing the law.

Look, if we don’t have border security, if we don’t enforce the laws that’s written in the books, you’re never going to control the border. Why do you think we got 11 million to 12 million people in this country now? Because there has been this notion that if you get by the Border Patrol, you get in the United States, you have a U.S. citizen kid, no one is looking for you. But those days are over.

Q So you should arrest the mothers, go after the mothers?

Q Sir, is that the message from this White House, you standing at this podium today that if you are an undocumented immigrant in this country right now listening to you that you should be fearful, that you should be concerned, you should be looking over your shoulder that ICE is looking for you?

DIRECTOR HOMAN: Well, you’re losing the message.

Q No, I want to make sure that that’s what the message is.

DIRECTOR HOMAN: No, I’m saying — let me just say it again. ICE prioritizes our enforcement efforts on national security threats, public safety threats, those who have been ordered removed by a judge and failed to depart, and those who have been ordered removed, were removed, and reentered the country — which is — the legislation is about — that’s a felony when you reenter the country after removal. That’s what I’m saying. That’s our priorities.

However, what I’m saying, during the course of those operations if we find someone here illegally, we’re not going to turn the other way. We’re going to put them in front of a judge. They’re going to have their due process and let the criminal justice system work the way it’s been designed.

Again, we’re enforcing the laws enacted by Congress and signed by the President. ICE officers, U.S. attorneys don’t make these laws up. Our job is to execute the laws of the country.

Q Do you believe that that should apply to children who are brought here illegally, the DREAMers?

DIRECTOR HOMAN: I think the administration has been clear that the deferred action for childhood arrivals, they still have deferred action. And the only DACA people that I know have been arrested are those that violated our policy by committing crime.

Q Do you agree with that policy, that they should be allowed to stay?

DIRECTOR HOMAN: That’s above my pay grade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdbXFrv06Ww
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Manolo

Of interest to those of us who follow the forex markets:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-forex-idUSKBN19L04P?il=0

The U.S. dollar recovered slightly on Friday, but posted its biggest quarterly decline against a basket of rival currencies in nearly seven years after hawkish signals from foreign central banks this week pressured the greenback further.
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July 2, 2017 1:15pm
- Jack5
  
  Meanwhile, hedge funds are having a play with the Australian dollar:
  
  http://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/currencies/hedge-funds-pile-into-aussie-options-betting-the-rba-will-raise-rates-20170629-gx1pw0.html
  
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  July 2, 2017 4:53pm
Ross12

This is well worth reading

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/07/01/angela-merkel-reflects-fear-and-loathing-amid-eu-elites/
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- LisaGinNZ
  
  CTH is a good site.
  
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  July 2, 2017 4:44pm
LisaGinNZ

For those interested in the euthanasia debate in NZ, are we sure it is a good idea to give the decision to “the state” on who lives or dies? This week “European court” decides death for baby :
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/smug_european_court_of_human_rights_issues_death_sentence_to_baby_still_like_socialized_medicine.html
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July 2, 2017 4:42pm
- Gruffydd
  
  From what I could understand the baby in question is brain dead and has other abnormality that assure its demise.
  Apparently the idea was to keep it alive to test medical treatments on .
  Josef Mengele would be proud.
  The courts decided that using it as a tissue culture was not acceptable.
  
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  July 2, 2017 9:53pm
nasska

…..” are we sure it is a good idea to give the decision to “the state” on who lives or dies?”…..

It would probably be a terrible idea. Ergo, we should be relieved in that all most of us want is assisted suicide.

Assisted suicide such as has been legal in Oregon for 20 years merely permits a doctor to prescribe a lethal drug which may be used by a dying patient to hasten their exit from an unbearable life.

Nothing to do with killing babies……sorry to stop a good weepy rant so brutally.
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July 2, 2017 4:57pm
Hugh Pavletich

… New Zealand: What are the Master Builders doing to restore true market pricing for new housing ? …

Construction industry wants highlight its worth to the Government | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/94208010/construction-industry-wants-highlight-its-worth-to-the-government

The construction industry wants the Government to have a proper conversation about what it wants from a sector that is about more than just building houses. … read more via hyperlink above ..

… The first Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey was released early 2005 … with the 13th Annual Survey released January this year …

2017 13th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey

http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf

… Andrew Atkin produced this early 2013 …

THE REAL DEAL: Housing in New Zealand … Andrew Atkin

http://andrewatkin.blogspot.co.nz/2013/03/the-real-deal-housing-in-new-zealand.html

… Affordable North American new house pricing examples. Note in North America the custom when discussing building areas is to include just the ‘heated area.’ In Australia and New Zealand garaging is included. Therefore add an allowance for garaging (6m x 6m = 36m or multiply by 10.764 to express in feet = 387.5 sqiare feet) … examples …

Pulte Homes – Arizona

https://pulte.com/homes/arizona/phoenix/florence/parkside-at-anthem-at-merrill-ranch-7739#CommunityDetailsView

Houston – New Homes Source

https://www.newhomesource.com/communityresults/market-279

… Check out too other affordable or near affordable North American housing markets … using the schedules of the Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey as a guide … and google search ‘New homes Your Chosen Metro’ …
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July 2, 2017 6:25pm
- sooty
  
  Why are you posting so late Hugh. Do you have a day job.
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:51pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Sorry G J Gardner … the days of high multiple lending for artificially inflated land / property are over …
  
  Auckland first-home buyers facing ‘increasingly more difficult’ hurdles | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/property/94256129/auckland-firsthome-buyers-facing-increasingly-more-difficult-hurdles
  
  A major developer is threatening to pull out of Auckland’s ‘affordable’ housing scheme as a result of tighter lending and restrictions.
  
  GJ Gardner Franklin and Papakura managing director Mike O’Meeghan says around 60 potential first home buyers have walked away in the last month because they couldn’t get loans. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  What is GJ Gardner … with the Master Builders Federation doing to get urban limits abolished and bond financing of infrastructure in place ? …
  
  Housing – New Zealand Labour Party
  
  http://www.labour.org.nz/housing
  
  … extract …
  
  Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out
  
  Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  … from May last year …
  
  beehive.govt.nz – Nick Smith – Labour support on city limits (abolition) welcomed
  
  https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/labour-support-city-limits-welcomed
  
  Labour’s targeted-bond housing infrastructure plan gets support from the New Zealand Initiative, critique from Infrastructure Minister Steven Joyce | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/86540/labours-targeted-bond-housing-infrastructure-plan-gets-support-new-zealand-initiative
  
  … extensive further information accessible at my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
  
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  July 3, 2017 12:30am
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    G J GARDNER AND THE MASTER BUILDERS FEDERATION NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT WAS HIGH MULTIPLE LENDING THAT DID IN THE IRISH BANKS …
    
    WHY ARE OUR BANKS MORE RESILIENT THAN THE IRISH ONES IN 2007 ? …
    
    What lessons have been learnt from the collapse of the Irish housing bubble in 2007 … when the average unweighted median multiples of its metros went from 4.7 to 2.8 … putting all its Banks to the wall and requiring bailouts of in excess of 70 billion euros (about $NZ109 billion) … refer schedule of Demographia Housing Surveys at http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
    
    What was the capital base of the Irish Banks in 2007 ?
    
    Subsequent research by the Central Bank of Ireland found high loan to income lending was a far greater problem than high loan to value lending … and imposed a general lending cap of 3.5 times. The Bank of England had earlier capped at 4.5 times. The Annual Demographia Housing Surveys (13 to date) illustrate house prices in normal markets should not exceed 3.0 times annual household incomes requiring sensible mortgage loads of about 2.5 times.
    
    Currently, the unweighted average median multiple of the Aussie metros is 5.5 … New Zealand 5.9 … way above the Irish 4.7 in 2007 ?
    
    Why are our Banks in a better position to cope than the Irish ones were in 2007 ?
    
    The Irish TV3 Vincent Browne interview of a couple of years ago with Prof Bill Black and others is most interesting viewing …
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7zd5dRILBw
    
    … and it seems the Irish are repeating the mistakes of recent history …
    
    Ireland at risk of creating new property bubble, warns OECD … The Irish Independent
    
    http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/ireland-at-risk-of-creating-new-property-bubble-warns-oecd-35801568.html
    
    This country still needs to get its houses in order ten years after the financial crisis began … Lucinda Creighton … The Irish Sun
    
    https://www.thesun.ie/news/1006506/this-country-still-needs-to-get-its-houses-in-order-ten-years-after-the-financial-crisis-began/
    
    https://news.google.com/news/search/section/q/irish%20house%20property%20prices/irish%20house%20property%20prices?hl=en-IE&ned=en_ie
    
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    July 3, 2017 12:40am
Gulag1917

The 2nd Amendment Comes To Europe: Czech Republic To Enshrine Right To Bear Arms Into Constitution
“Though America has the most privately owned guns per capita, there are other countries that aren’t too far behind us, such as Serbia, Yemen, Cyprus, and many Western nations like Finland and Switzerland.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-01/2nd-amendment-comes-europe-czech-republic-enshrine-right-bear-arms-constitution
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July 2, 2017 6:39pm
sam green

Paula Bennett scandal breaking as we speak. Social media – could be bullshit but if true could be very bad for her. She’s been quiet around the traps.
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July 2, 2017 7:17pm
- dad4justice
  
  What do you mean?
  
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  July 2, 2017 7:38pm
  - sam green
    
    Tell me what you mean about Peter Davis?
    
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    July 2, 2017 11:13pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Coming from you sam, very likely to be either bullshit or wishful thinking.
  
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  July 2, 2017 7:57pm
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    Always with the insults aye?
    
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    July 2, 2017 8:40pm
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      Hope they get sued.
      
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      July 2, 2017 9:58pm
      - sam green
        
        Yep. What’s it called? Defamation? Got to be not true – obviously you’ve seen the post.
        
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        July 2, 2017 11:12pm
- RF
  
  Thought she was over in the Islands. Might explain why she has been quiet around the traps.
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:00pm
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  Yowsa!!
  
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  July 2, 2017 8:05pm
nasska

A young woman goes to the doctor for an examination. After thoroughly examining her, the doctor says, “You are in excellent health except for those bruises on your knees. They seem to be developing into calluses. Can you tell me where they’re coming from?”

The young woman starts to blush and says, “I guess they have to do with my sexual activity. Whenever we make love we do it doggie style.”

“Well that should be easy to take care of,” says the doctor, “surely you must know other ways to have sexual intercourse.”

“Oh! Yes, I do,” says the woman, “but my German Shepherd doesn’t…”
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July 2, 2017 8:19pm
cha

Cheery wee factoid of the day – a peppercorn sized piece of U-235 killed 80,000 people and flattened a city.

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Little Boy, the nuclear bomb that U.S. forces dropped on the Japanese city of Hiroshima on August 6th, 1945, leveled a two-mile radius of the city, killing an estimated 80,000 people. It was an enormous amount of destruction — and it was caused by less than two per cent of the uranium carried by the bomb.

In an interview on NPR’s Fresh Air, author Eric Schlosser explains just how inefficient this early nuclear bomb was (skip to 11:13 in the recording).

In the case of Hiroshima, the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima was an incredibly crude and inefficient weapon. When it exploded, about 99 per cent of the uranium that was supposed to undergo this chain reaction, didn’t. It just blew apart in the air, and a very small percentage, maybe two per cent of the fissile material, actually detonated. And most of it just became other radioactive elements. [. . .] Now to imagine how small an amount that is, seven-tenths of a gram of uranium is about the size of a peppercorn. Seven-tenths of a gram weighs less than a dollar bill. So even though this weapon was unbelievably inefficient, and almost 99 per cent of the uranium had nothing to do with the destruction of Hiroshima, it was a catastrophic explosion.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/09/less-than-two-percent-of-the-hiroshima-bombs-uranium-actually-detonated/
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July 2, 2017 9:16pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Not even close. Get about 17kT explosive per kg of Uranium 235 that is fissioned. Hiroshima (little boy) was about 15kT so around 880g of Uranium consumed which at 19.1g/cm³ is about 46mL. That is about the size of a standard egg and about 1.4% of the 64kg of uranium used.
  
  But also a very simple and low tech gun assembly design, that was actually overall lighter than the similarly powerful but far more sophisticated plutonium implosion Fat Man that destroyed Nagasaki.
  
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  July 3, 2017 2:02am
Monique Watson

I wish I had a German Shepherd right about now. Just sayin’
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