General Debate 26 July 2017

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BananaLlama

f-first …. baka.
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July 26, 2017 4:46pm
4077th

I feel I have cheated to have been the first in today? Anyhoo..Hope everyone is having a pleasant day 🙂

Edit to add..Bugger BananaLlama beat me to it 🙁
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July 26, 2017 4:46pm
waikatogirl

Todays GD must be on Island time ?
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July 26, 2017 4:52pm
holysheet

Warning to all American men. Do not slap your wife as she might shoot you and get away with it. If this cop gets away with this shooting then nobody is safe.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-minnesota-police-idUSKBN1AA2QZ?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews
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July 26, 2017 4:59pm
- Gabby
  
  She ‘became deceased’. Mealy mouthed shitheels.
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:22pm
Keeping Stock

Better late than never, I suppose…
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July 26, 2017 5:01pm
- RalphT
  
  But probably little chance of getting to the usual 200 comments.
  
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  July 26, 2017 5:15pm
Happychappy

The hypocrisy of Winston Peters “says MP’s are awol from Parliament is why he wants to cut other numbers”. Winston First then goes on to criticize Murry McCully and Todd Barclay and a unnamed Labour MP but no mention about his Busing around Campaigning when he should have been in Parliament Leading his Party. This comming from a senior MP that is known for pleasing himself instead of setting a example for other young MP’s.
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July 26, 2017 5:10pm
- peterwn
  
  Winston is claiming that the Fuji-Xerox scandal is making NZ an international laughing stock. He has scored a minor ‘victory’ in that the Government and Fuji-Xerox have agreed that Fuji-Xerox will not be considered for new contracts for now which is probably a wise decision. Cancelling existing contracts could cost the Government heaps. No one has suggested that the machines are-sub-par so as long as Fuji Xerox continues to provide toner and maintenance in accordance with the contracts there would be no problem.
  
  Now that Winston has raised the matter of NZ being a laughing stock, New Zealand would be an even bigger laughing stock if Winston somehow became PM even on a time share basis.
  
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  July 26, 2017 5:27pm
  - Happychappy
    
    You always know when his internal polling is not the figure he wants as he pull out something he says is being sold like Huka falls at the last election or like today a power company that he says Tony Ryall has done Nationals donkey work to get ready to sell. Peters finds more phantom sells or scandels than any other MP’s but the only one he came good on was the wine box inquiry.
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:54pm
    - peterwn
      
      Not to mention the 50 Mercedes Benz cars he claimed Social Welfare purchased.
      
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      July 26, 2017 7:08pm
Biscuit

5.13pm and yet I’m gonna be in the first ten General Debate posts for the day, heh heh.

Anyone see the big News of the day?

Kim Dotcrim is, apparently, ‘fleeing the spies’ in Auckland and is moving to Queenstown.

A couple of thoughts:

1. Whatever has Queenstown done to deserve such a punishment?
2. Does Dotcrim not understand that his ‘spies’ might get on one of them plane things and simply do their spying on him from a more southerly location than Auckland?
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July 26, 2017 5:12pm
- RalphT
  
  3. Why is he stopping at Queenstown and not keeping on for another 2,000 kms until safely out of our territory?
  
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  July 26, 2017 5:17pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Just drop him off in Honolulu. He would be completely safe from our spies there.
    
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    July 26, 2017 7:43pm
  - KevOB
    
    There are the Auckland Islands.
    
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    July 26, 2017 9:10pm
- 4077th
  
  Perhaps tinfoil is cheaper in Queenstown?
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:06pm
  - Gabby
    
    Back in the 8063rd there was this chap we suspected of being a spy. Turns out he was selling snaps of showering nurses. Pervert, but it was the 70s so it was hilARious.
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:26pm
    - 4077th
      
      If you weren’t such a fucking mong Gobby you would be funny. Alas all you have is your childish drive-by drivel to keep your comment rate increasing and your snowflake ass closer to the door.
      
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      July 26, 2017 8:21pm
      - Gabby
        
        The mong in the 8063rd used to bang on about doors and donkeys. A bit ‘artistic’ if you get my drift. He got transferred to that other mob pretty damn smartly I can tell you. Fitted in fine with those clowns.
        
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        July 26, 2017 9:11pm
    - pentwig
      
      do you actually have any intelligence gabbermouth?
      
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      July 26, 2017 8:23pm
      - Gabby
        
        Where’ve you been merkin? Someone finally change their socks?
        
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        July 26, 2017 9:12pm
  - noskire
    
    Nothing is cheaper in Queenstown – quite the opposite in fact i.e. $22.99 for a six-pack of Heineken,
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:32pm
- Gabby
  
  He may have found out what the Toddger’s been getting away with and thought ‘that’s the place for me.’
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:54pm
- jims_whare
  
  I think the SIS would be able to spy on him in Queenstown.
  
  If he really wanted to be safe from them maybe he should move to Gore (or Palmerston North?)
  
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  July 26, 2017 11:12pm
RF

James Shaw may have made the biggest mistake of his political life.

He has been on News Talk ZB. Full support for Crooked Metiria and the law is an arse.

She appears to think it’s just going to be her writing out a cheque and everyone is happy.

Pigs arse…..
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July 26, 2017 5:15pm
- Inandout
  
  So both of the two headed monster are corrupt. Should have tree huggers running around like mad hens not knowing which party to place their vote with. Most academic greenies I have met are honest with money, if not their ideals.
  
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  July 26, 2017 5:30pm
- peterwn
  
  I doubt he has. As things stand he has no option but to support her otherwise the party will break apart. I suspect he will make his moves after the election. He also needs to ensure that he would continue to have a reasonable level of support.
  
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  July 26, 2017 5:31pm
  - Swifty
    
    Yeah, what he is obliged to say before the election versus what he thinks privately may well be two different things.
    
    Time will tell.
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:58pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Saw J Shaw on TVNZ news. I was appalled by his backing of Turei and her fraud. He appears to be oblivious to the damage she is causing around her. Saying he admires Materia for bringing the subject of inadequate support out for the poor, so it can be discussed.
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:21pm
  - Peter
    
    Greens only seem to know how to double down. But New Zealanders require a Mea Culpa. They must see contrition and redemption. Paying back, at this stage, is nowhere near enough.
    
    Without the Mea Culpa, the issue is left spinning like a mad Catherine Wheel.
    
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    July 26, 2017 7:16pm
    - PhilP
      
      “Without the Mea Culpa, the issue is left spinning like a mad Catherine Wheel”.
      mad Catherine Delahunty Wheel, there fixed it for you.
      
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      July 26, 2017 8:04pm
  - peterwn
    
    I am not at all fussed. He has no option but to support her at the moment – otherwise he would effectively throw a grenade into the midst of the Green Party.
    
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    July 26, 2017 8:12pm
    - KevOB
      
      I believe MT has already done that. I know first time voters who have changed their choice away from Green.
      
      Only time will tell but even David Seymour and Minister Anne Tolley both mentioned WINZ needing to know who beneficiaries had residing with them.
      
      The Greens still have time, but barely, to recover if MT resigns immediately.
      
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      July 26, 2017 9:17pm
    - whostoblame
      
      Next up, Julie Anne Genter. To be honest, I’m not sure which melon grinds me the most. Yeah nah I do, bye bye MT. You’ve had your snout in the trough long enough. Back to the real world.
      
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      July 26, 2017 11:09pm
- Sublime
  
  RF: … and everyone is happy.
  
  When’s the next poll? Things should start to get interesting.
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:33pm
- Colville
  
  Long may it continue.
  
  Shaw is hugging a corpse and that stench will taint him long after the corpse is buried.
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:33pm
UpandComer

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/25/health/sperm-counts-declining-study/index.html

So men today have 52% less sperm then men 30 years ago. And the Fake News Israel Network blames it on Climate Change, because of course they do.

They don’t point out that in addition, men in Australia, NZ, UK US also have massively lower amounts of testosterone and nervous system vitality measured via grip strength then 30 years ago, let alone 70 years ago.

There are a range of reasons:

Atraxine: You’ve seen “they’re turning the frogs gay” meme? Well that’s the gatekeepers in action, but the science is real. Water is turning people transgender because of agricultural pesticide run-off, notably Atrazine. The man who discovered it was ridiculed for years and years, but he’s the real Erin Brokovich:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842049/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100301151927.htm

The other major proven issue is Omega 6 oils:

http://davidgillespie.org/how-vegetable-oils-are-stealing-our-future-part-one/

These oils are used as the basis of every form of processed and mass-produced food that exists. Your olive oil from Italy also isn’t olive oil – the Mafia scum there contaminate with vege oils then imbue with Olive perfume.

The other major issue is Ithyl-estradiol run-off from women pissing their contraceptives into the water table.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-105466/Fertility-timebomb-drinking-water.html

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/jun/02/water-system-toxic-contraceptive-pill

https://www.livescience.com/34409-low-sperm-count.html

This is serious stuff. One in six Australian families can’t have kids, and for half of those it’s because the male sperm count is below 15PPM.

One in six. Australian families. Can’t have kids.

But social engineering doesn’t exist.

Why hasn’t this been widely known prior? Well it has been known, but Israel News Network and the rest of the Fake News cultural gate-keepers don’t like the idea of the bedrock of modern feminism, the contraceptive pill, being implicated in making western civilization barren, or that homosexuals and transgenders might just be victims of toxic run-offs which implicate biology rather then genetic immutability.

So expect to see this blamed on fucking ‘climate change’ and ‘poverty’.

But understand if you’re a man, you have 52% less sperm on average then your father did, and feel that realization imbue you.
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July 26, 2017 5:26pm
- nasska
  
  ….”But understand if you’re a man, you have 52% less sperm on average then your father did”…..
  
  And here was me blaming it on qualifying for National Super. ?
  
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  July 26, 2017 5:41pm
  - stigie
    
    Yep Nasska, with 52% less sperm, you could have been blaming WINZ for living in poverty and pumping out ferals to the hearts content..?
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:12pm
  - holysheet
    
    Your level of virility has nothing to do with your sperm count. At your age be thankful for any thing you get. Remember, quality trumps quantity.
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:16pm
    - nasska
      
      Thanks for the advice stigie & holysheet but I really needed it about 45 years ago. The CEO had our first when I was 21 & the second popped out 11 months later.
      
      I was scared to take my pants off in front of her for the next few years. 🙂
      
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      July 26, 2017 6:25pm
- realityczech
  
  “poverty”
  
  The poor breed more.
  
  Its the middle classes who struggle to spit out another Imogen or Sophie.
  
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  July 26, 2017 5:43pm
  - Gabby
    
    I guess they don’t drink water reallyczit.
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:49pm
- UpandComer
  
  So now we can add this to the list of non-god reasons why homosexuality doesn’t need to be deified.
  
  Number one is the risk to the general population from the Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus that gestates in the torn anuses of gay men and itsthen scooped out and smeared all over our environment, putting little children and old people in particular at risk. MRSA is 14 times more prevalent in the homosexual community, and every geographical mapping of it’s pathology shows it’s epicentre as a homosexual cluster, whether it be an entire city like San Francisco, or just a part of a city where they band together.
  
  Now we can add that both homosexuality and transgenderism are not the result of genetic immutability, but in many cases are being modulated by endocrine disruptors in parents caused predominately by the contraceptive pill and Atrazine. So homosexuals are victims of a form of biological engineering, whether deliberate or accidental. There are also well known psychological causes based in Trauma and cognitive conditioning outlined by example Dr Joseph Nicholosi. But that’s censored.
  
  Note that the rate of decrease is continuing – 1.2% per year for the last 30 years.
  
  We may soon get to a stage where a choice has to be made between contraceptives and the continuation of the species.
  
  But we can’t have a proper discussion, because Clinton News Network and the cultural gatekeepers are going to blame this issue on climate change and poverty. To what degree is it plastics, contraceptives, nutrition, cognition, tactile contaminants, attitudes? What kind of contraceptives run-off exactly? How does this phenomenon link to the population decrease in the first world?
  
  We can’t know, because of the political correctness regime we all live under.
  
  Can you feel the cultural enrichment? Do you love the diversity? It’s only a matter of time until this is blamed on the Patriarchy.
  
  We don’t live in a world of science anymore – we live in a world of political scientism.
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:01pm
  - sam green
    
    Great name. Ironic?
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:43pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The figure for childless couples has always ranged around 1/6- to 1/5.
  https://www.teara.govt.nz/en/infertility-and-childlessness/page-1
  
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  July 26, 2017 8:35pm
- waikatosinger
  
  … if you’re a man, you have 52% less sperm on average then your father did …
  
  Not surprising. These days we have much better porn.
  
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  July 27, 2017 2:57am
- G152
  
  Some-one didn’t see the ‘we’re all gonna die’ sign on the ‘fake news’ and believed what they read
  
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  July 27, 2017 8:54am
peterwn

Meanwhile Bill English has come out in support of David Seymour for Epsom and Peter Dunne for Ohariu.
Things have not gone as I envisaged. I thought there was a three stage plan:
1. Ohariu Nats put weight behind Peter Dunne.
2. Bill English has a cup of tea with Peter Dunne.
3. Bill English throws Brett Hudson under a bus.

Bill has omitted step two and gone straight to step 3. So for Ohariu it is two ticks – National and Peter Dunne.
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July 26, 2017 5:36pm
- Manolo
  
  I eagerly await Mr Hudson’s comments.
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:03pm
  - peterwn
    
    Brett will be feeling like Brer Rabbit when Brer Fox chucked him into the briar patch.
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:09pm
    - Colville
      
      What is Hudsons list ranking?
      
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      July 26, 2017 6:37pm
      - peterwn
        
        Brett was 39th on National’s list in 2014 – which was an excellent position for a newbie. National has yet to announce its 2017 list and Brett will most probably get a higher ranking – on merit and not for being a sacrifice. Ohariu effectively has two MP’s – Brett Hudson and Peter Dunne.
        
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        July 26, 2017 8:22pm
  - peterwn
    
    His comment (part) is:
    “If you are a voter in Ōhāriu and considering supporting National this year, I encourage you to give your Party Vote to National and your Electorate Vote to Peter Dunne.”
    (ex Facebook)
    I suspect too that all National’s hoardings in Ohariu are ‘Party Vote’ hoardings.
    
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    July 26, 2017 7:06pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Hudson knows what his job is. Build the party vote.
    One tick Blue (the important one) One tick funny haircut man.
    
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    July 26, 2017 8:15pm
    - peterwn
      
      And the key thing is for him to get the core party members and supporters on side over this. An important thing is National does stand candidates in such electorates – declining to stand a candidate is electorally damaging as well as having no one to campaign for the party vote. Greens decided not to stand a candidate in Ohariu (with Labour’s blessing as part of the MOU) in the hope of de-throning Peter Dunne. This means the Greens have no one in Ohariu to champion the Party Vote, it will be interesting to see if they try to get a spokesperson to speak local ‘Meet the Candidate’ meetings.
      
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      July 26, 2017 8:32pm
sooty

Me Tu is on the way to the curb.
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July 26, 2017 5:37pm
Mobile Michael

“Call me old-fashioned, but to be a strong and effective local MP you should live in the electorate you’re standing to represent.” – Anna Lorke, Labour Candidate for Tukituki.

Is this a comment that Ginny Anderson of Upper Hutt should be taking notice of, seeing as she is standing for Labour in Hutt South?
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July 26, 2017 5:44pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Makes no difference, she’s going to come a distant second.
  Two Ticks Blue.
  
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  July 26, 2017 8:19pm
  - Gabby
    
    Two Pricks Blue.
    
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    July 26, 2017 9:05pm
    - KevOB
      
      ⬆️⬆️
      
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      July 26, 2017 9:23pm
      - Gabby
        
        There’s the other one.
        
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        July 26, 2017 9:44pm
- peterwn
  
  And Brett Hudson recently moved into Ohariu despite not expecting to be Ohariu’s electorate MP.
  
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  July 26, 2017 8:34pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Smart man, cutting down on commuting time and greenhouse gases.
    
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    July 26, 2017 9:13pm
RF

I have spoken to a retired WINZ investigator.

She believes that owing to the adverse publicity there is no option but to charge Crooked Metiria and the court will decide on penalty.

My contact still keeps in touch with her former workmates and confirmed there has been a shit load of complaints. No one can remember such a huge response.
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July 26, 2017 5:44pm
- 4077th
  
  Best news all day 🙂
  
  If only she had shown some humility, a modicum of remorse, an apology to the taxpayers of NZ and an apology to the law abiding struggling beneficiaries of all walks of life. Instead she smirks, enables and dismisses her actions as unavoidable and therefore justified. She needs to step down NOW!
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:14pm
  - Gabby
    
    You know I think it’s just possible she might be a Murray too. What’s the world coming to. There was none of that in the 8063rd. That other outfit though – hotbed of screaming nancies and miscegenators.
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:34pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Waltzing Meteria is a woman’s front bum
      
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      July 26, 2017 7:03pm
      - Gabby
        
        Stoive’s a tubular feminine hygiene product.
        
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        July 26, 2017 8:08pm
    - 4077th
      
      …Trolls be trollin’
      
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      July 26, 2017 7:54pm
      - Gabby
        
        Radar be hearin choppers.
        
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        July 26, 2017 8:10pm
  - Chris R
    
    I know she hasn’t murdered anyone (that I know about anyway) but she has the same haughty air Clayton Weatherston exuded in the courtroom. “No matter what I have done or what I do I shall never be fully answerable to the rest of society.” I have trouble even looking at the greasy creep. There must be a term for her condition as it is more than simple narcissism.
    
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    July 26, 2017 8:00pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      ” There must be a term for her condition as it is more than simple narcissism.”
      
      It’s called ‘Psychopath’
      
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      July 26, 2017 8:54pm
    - KevOB
      
      Sociopath.
      
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      July 26, 2017 9:25pm
- peterwn
  
  This is not right. Your contact and her former workmates should clam up on this matter. It is less than helpful (to say the least) for them to be chattering about this.
  
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  July 26, 2017 8:38pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Don’t WINZ have an expectation of privacy from their staff? No sympathy for the self-confessed felon, but there’s disgraceful behaviour all over the place.
  
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  July 26, 2017 10:34pm
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HOUSING … THE NATIONAL – LED GOVERNMENTS ACHILLES HEAL …

The 2016 Household Incomes Report … Kiwiblog

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/the_2016_household_incomes_report.html
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From Interest Co NZ …

‘Housing costs these days make up a much greater proportion of the household budget than they used to,’ MSD incomes and inequality report finds | interest.co.nz

http://www.interest.co.nz/property/88965/housing-costs-these-days-make-much-greater-proportion-household-budget-they-used-msd

Income report highlights NZ housing crisis … NZ Adviser

http://www.nzadviseronline.co.nz/news/income-report-highlights-nz-housing-crisis-239159.aspx

Data from the Ministry of Social Development shows that incomes have increased fairly evenly across New Zealand’s families but housing costs are disproportionately hitting the poorest … read more via hyperlink above …

While most other things have become more affordable and accessible … housing has gone through the rofo.

These issues are discussed via …

UPDATE …HOW WOULD RYANAIRS CEO MICHAEL O’LEARY DEAL WITH POLITICIANS AND BUREAUCRATS OVER HOUSING ISSUES ?

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/07/macro-afternoon-239/#comment-2923208 … and … http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/general_debate_25th_july_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1975312 … and … http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/the_consequences_of_immigration_restrictions.html/comment-page-1#comment-1975321
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July 26, 2017 5:52pm
- stigie
  
  Oh Fuck Hugh..?
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:15pm
  - holysheet
    
    He has obviously run out of gin. Any other night our Hugh is far too pissed to comment at this late time.
    
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    July 26, 2017 6:19pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      One can understand why PM English looked so depressed with Kim Hill on Morning Report a couple of Mondays ago, when discussing Auckland housing issues.
      
      Then we had Finance Minister Steven Joyce (with Tolley … but not Smith) recently, being uncharacteristically nervous and uncomfortable in announcing the panicked and convoluted infrastructure financing boondoogle … in response to Labours sound bond financing one.
      
      Clearly these guys … or whats left of them come 23 September … need a spell on the Opposition benches … so they can re-learn what a centre-right government is supposed to be.
      
      I sure hope you guys are researching Michael O’Leary and Ryanair.
      
      Rediscovering and re-learning capitalism … which is of course different to the crony variety so many of you are wedded to …
      
      Crony Chronicles: I Want To Be A Crony – YouTube
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aO9tA5DWJM
      
      Here is a dose of Adam Smith for good measure … a brilliant documentary … accessible via my archival website as well … http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org …
      
      The Real Adam Smith: Ideas That Changed The World – Full Video … Youtube
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ruiUOQERnw
      
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      July 26, 2017 8:03pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      He’s been bottling it up since before the late start of GD. He must be very frustrated that there haven’t been many more thousands out there to see what a twat he is.
      
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      July 26, 2017 8:23pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Capt Mainwaring … It is simply about just allowing the housing market to function normally .. so that housing doesn’t cost more than 3.0 times annual household income with sensible mortgage loads of about 2.5 times …
        http://www.demographia.com .
        
        It is a pity for find ‘normal’ offensive !
        
        What are you afraid of ?
        
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        July 26, 2017 9:15pm
Tauhei Notts

I listened to talkback radio at about 3 a.m. this morning. Okay, I get up and have a leak.
Talkback at that time of the day is normally very very socialist. So imagine my surprise at the hate out there for Materia Turei. In talkback land she is the Pariah. But on National Socialist Radio she rarely rates a mention. I can detect a level of hate for the Greens that I have never seen before. The Greens have always been loved by the bludgers of society, but Materia’s confession is real bad.
I am loving it.
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July 26, 2017 6:28pm
- RF
  
  I agree. The host Tim R… was in full flight about Crooked Metiria.
  
  It was a joy to behold. I even heard one of our kin.. Chuck B… voicing his disgust.
  
  In the last week I have never previously heard such vitriol from so many people She is toast and whatever happens she is a political dead duck.
  
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  July 26, 2017 7:27pm
EAD_TWO

African ~~man~~ sorry “thug” savagely beats his son to death in public for losing his shoe:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4727460/Thug-battered-boy-death-jailed-life.html

Whoever heard the like, a black man being violent toward a child?

They make wonderful fathers and husbands, I’ve seen them on the telly.
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July 26, 2017 6:42pm
- Gabby
  
  He might have Oirish ancestry.
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:46pm
- nasska
  
  Strange that no mention is made of the culpability of the kid’s POS mother. She took up with the killer, kicking her boy’s father out of the scene without a thought that she was inviting a violent arsehole into their lives.
  
  Women like that deserve to stand in court alongside those charged with abuse…..they are no less guilty.
  
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  July 26, 2017 6:59pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    I don’t know the details but I’d be surprised if she “kicked him out”. African man aren’t exactly known for sticking round for a long time…
    
    She is just another in the long list of European women that has had a nightmare life unfold and probably wasted to a dead end thanks to modernity.
    
    Feminism, the Welfare State and Mass Immigration are the gifts that just keep on giving…
    
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    July 26, 2017 7:09pm
  - Gabby
    
    She could be German.
    
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    July 26, 2017 8:06pm
dad4justice

Materia Turei deserves jail, she has endangered the integrity of WINZ and safety of its staff. Many beneficiaries that have been prosecuted by the department in the past are livid and WINZ staff are overloaded with complaints. Jail the fat gween pig. End of story.
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July 26, 2017 6:48pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Dad4J,
  If I worked for WINZ I would start to wonder why I worked there. The shit is coming to them, those who are cheating are going to go apeshit on Material Girl. Expect extra guards at all WINZ outlets
  
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  July 26, 2017 7:08pm
  - dad4justice
    
    As a matter of health and safety the gween pig should be held accountable for the obvious WINZ fraud, then charged by police and sent to prison by a judge. This is the only way we can protect the safety of WINZ staff, as the precedence she has set has horrific if not fatal ramifications for all WINZ staff.
    
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    July 26, 2017 7:19pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    If you worry about the staff head over to the standard.
    WINZ staff have been labelled, one and all, as Human Rights Abusers who deserve jail or worse
    It is feral and disgusting
    
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    July 26, 2017 7:40pm
- sam green
  
  She doesn’t deserve jail dad4justice and nor do you.
  
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  July 26, 2017 9:24pm
doggone7

Dotcom keeps making the news

“Court papers claim Bill English acted ‘unlawfully’ on Dotcom.”

“But the legal action which disclosed the extended spying also targets English specifically, saying he acted “unlawfully” when he signed a ministerial certificate intended to bury the spying operation forever.”

Bill would never try to bury the story. I’ve heard him saying so many times about wanting to be and about being, “open and transparent.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=11895028
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July 26, 2017 7:03pm
- holysheet
  
  Squirrels at work here. Last time they were out to get John Key. Now it’s Bills turn.
  Bring it on you fat slug.
  Imagine the off spring as a result of the fat frog and the fat slug. It would be a totally new breed of leftie.
  
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  July 26, 2017 7:47pm
  - Paulus
    
    Surely Amy Adams only has to sign the deportation and he outta her !
    Amy – make my Christmas please.
    
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    July 27, 2017 8:50am
- Gabby
  
  Bingles wouldn’t remember it and it wouldn’t be his ministerial responsibility anyway.
  
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  July 26, 2017 8:03pm
Fletch

Soldiers in Venezuela rewarded for good service with… toilet paper.

https://twitter.com/arabthomness/status/889586429709385728/photo/1
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July 26, 2017 7:11pm
rightoverlabour

Hmm, Christchurch got problems. Running out of firewood. If the ecoNazis had not banned coal fires, this would not be an issue. Going to get a lot worse when the Big Chill starts setting in…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/95126877/people-queue-for-hours-to-buy-firewood-in-christchurch-as-shortage-persists
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July 26, 2017 7:13pm
- Jack5
  
  Yep, and the Greens and their fellow travellers are blocking the harnessing of inshore gas, which could be a great, cheap, networked energy source for Christchurch.
  
  Roll on Global Warming. Solar power for Southland!
  
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  July 26, 2017 8:08pm
  - Gabby
    
    Solar panels don’t work too well underwater.
    
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    July 26, 2017 9:19pm
marquess

Prime Minister Bill English today said it was wrong for Turei or any other politician to “essentially advocate breaking the law”.

“I disagree with politicians essentially advocating breaking the law,” English told reporters at Parliament today.

The fact he unironically said this into a dictaphone is hilarious.
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July 26, 2017 7:14pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  ?? that is a pretty good call
  
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  July 26, 2017 7:41pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Is that the best you can come up with for the last 4 days or so?
  No wonder the left is fucked.
  
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  July 26, 2017 8:30pm
  - Gabby
    
    Two Skids New.
    
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    July 26, 2017 9:17pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Marquess do you support Tureis stance on benefit fraud?
  
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  July 26, 2017 9:01pm
- Gabby
  
  To be fair Bingles didn’t advocate breaking the law, he just did what he did. He can’t remember what though.
  
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  July 26, 2017 9:16pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Further proof that the Left have lunatics on their team.
    
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    July 26, 2017 9:24pm
- KevOB
  
  He spoke similarly in the House.
  
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  July 26, 2017 9:29pm
Fletch

Get this – a woman won a photo contest put on by a Kat Von D (some kind of tattooist and celebrity name brand) but was disqualified because she likes Trump.

The Wichita Eagle reports that Gypsy Freeman was declared the winner last month of the “Saint + Sinner Contest” on Instagram sponsored by Kat Von D Beauty. Kat Von D is a tattoo artist and reality TV star from the show L.A. Ink.

As the winner, Freeman and a guest would have been flown to Los Angeles to attend the launch party of a new makeup line from Kat Von D. She also would have received a $500 gift card to the makeup chain store Sephora. The total approximate value of the prize package was $2,100.

But when Freeman was announced as the winner, curious social media loiterers went to her Instagram page and lo and behold, there was a pro-Trump post from Election Day last year.

That very evening, she received a direct message from Kat Von D’s personal Instagram account, telling her the celebrity had “drawn a personal line in the sand between myself and anyone who supports that man,” according to screenshots of the conversation.

“My launch party [and my brand] celebrates many things that Trump is against. And I just need you to know that I personally have a hard time with inviting anyone who would support such an anti-feminist, anti-homosexual/LGBT, anti-immigrant, and anti-climate change fascist such as Trump.”

Freeman replied: “I won’t be upset with you if you can’t have us there for these reasons, and I wish you the best. We would love to be there, of course, but I sincerely do understand if you decide to replace us with someone who supports the candidate you support.”

Kat Von D replied, “It’s not about inviting people based on their political stance.” No, it’s about rejecting people based on their political stance. “[I]t’s just extremely difficult (borderline impossible) for me to be friends with or associate with anyone who would support a man who goes against everything I stand for. I would feel the same way towards people who supported Hitler, or any other fascist.” Oh, well that’s fair of her.

As The Wichita Eagle noted, all evidence of the contest’s existence has since been deleted from the Kat Von D Instagram account and website.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/contest-winning-makeup-artist-disqualified-supporting-trump

See, if you support Trump that’s enough for a liberal to disqualify you and call you a supporter of fascism and Hitler.
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July 26, 2017 7:17pm
Brigitte

Well it appears that Te Reo is a very good language to use indeed. Almost everyone agrees, except a few old codgers it seems….

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95132721/winston-peters-takes-issue-with-the-use-of-te-reo-maori-in-parliament
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July 26, 2017 7:26pm
- Jack5
  
  The old codger seems to be fluent in Maori, though Brigitte. What is the basis for your, “Te Reo is a very good language to use indeed.”
  
  Very good for what use, and why?
  
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  July 26, 2017 8:06pm
  - Brigitte
    
    For upsetting Winnie of course. But it all seemed a bit odd. He’s been in parliament long enough to know that he couldn’t get away with complaining about it. And then to make a point of order whilst apologising was just nuts. Unless he was pitching for the afternoon off (which he didn’t get).
    
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    July 26, 2017 8:17pm
  - Morrissey
    
    We get that you can’t speak or even understand Te Reo, but why do you resent it?
    
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    July 27, 2017 8:56am
sooty

Me Tu has said that she has not had any legal advice. Reason is that she has been taking her own advise. Her head is just an echo chamber, seen as there is nothing there, any brain cell would get lonely.
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July 26, 2017 7:27pm
Viking2

Ancient humans had sex with non humans

So not a lot different from the way some go about life even now.

According to a study conducted by Omer Gokcumen, an assistant professor of biological sciences at the University of Buffalo, ancient humans had intercourse with a “ghost species” of “proto human”.

Gokcumen explains that humans are only one member of a broader species named “hominins”.

The research found that humans had sex with other members of the hominins group.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/science/news/article.cfm?c_id=82&objectid=11894688
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July 26, 2017 7:36pm
- nasska
  
  ….”ancient humans had intercourse with a “ghost species” of “proto human”….
  
  Settle down V2…..it still happens. Didn’t you on occasions as a young bloke wake up next to a bush pig & spend the next week crapping yourself in case your mates found out about it? 🙂
  
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  July 26, 2017 7:54pm
- Fletch
  
  The Bible does actually mention this –
  
  The Nephilim were on the earth at that time (and also immediately afterward), when those divine beings were having sexual relations with those human women, who gave birth to children for them. These children became the heroes and legendary figures of ancient times. ~ Genesis 6:4
  
  Some people think that is where the legends or myths of the Greek heroes came from who were like giants and stronger than normal men. ‘The Nephilim’ were supposed to be some of the fallen angels who then copulated with human women.
  
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  July 26, 2017 8:30pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Ancient humans had sex with non humans
  
  Welcome to KB cheap shot of the day . . .
  
  Metiria has a daughter. It’s not just ancient humans.
  
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  July 26, 2017 9:11pm
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Ok – even joking that someone is non human I know is a little teensy weensy bit waaaaaaaaaay farkin OTT to the extreme. That’s just Facebook nasty. Sick shit. Sorry Metty !! Law degree – I’m just jealous – ha. Have fun with the Winzoids.
    
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    July 26, 2017 9:32pm
    - waikatosinger
      
      Yeah – bringing the kid into it crosses the line with me.
      
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      July 27, 2017 3:10am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  This article give a bit more detail and less of the “ghost” aspect.
  http://www.buffalo.edu/news/releases/2017/07/028.html
  
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  July 26, 2017 9:45pm
Jack5

This was on the cards and is potentially calamitous, economically.

One of the world’s leading re-insurers is warning that NZ’s seismic risks are so high that they might refuse to offer insurance to NZ.

With the country situated on the edge of two tectonic plates, and Auckland sitting on a field of scores of volcanoes, natural disaster damage could be beyond the country’s ability to repair its cities and transport.

Unless, unless we at least quintuple the size of and contributions to the Earthquake and War damage commission, get out of multi-storey builiding, and impose ultra-strict standards on transport routes and facilities such as bridges.

The warning comes from Munich Re, one of the industry’s giants. Investment on its balance sheet totals about 358.6 billion NZ dollars.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/95119148/german-reinsurer-munich-re-warns-quake-insurance-could-be-hard-to-find
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July 26, 2017 8:27pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The insurers are nothing but rapacious pigs.
  They collect massive premiums off low-risk customers than want to walk away from the little bit of risk they have on a global basis.
  What are they going to say when there is a massive tsunami in the Mediterranean caused by a big earthquake in Italy?
  Our issues wouldn’t even rate on that scale.
  
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  July 26, 2017 8:36pm
  - Jack5
    
    Munich Re (full title: Munich Reinsurance Company) reported an 8.1 per cent return on equity for its 2016 year. Not huge for the risks it assumes.
    
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    July 26, 2017 9:18pm
  - Paulus
    
    Obviously you do not understand that Insurance Companies are “guided” by their Reinsurers internationally in that their financial stability, and there fore the ability to pay claims, is governed by their Capital position.
    The Christchurch Earthquake severely damaged the reputation of insurance for New Zealand as the information given to protect their Balance Sheets has turned out to be very inaccurate – see why AMI crashed.
    It take years to build up a relationship with International Reinsurers who review every Balance sheet as it is their role to offer financial cover and the ability to pay large claims when they occur.
    You cannot find at any reasonable price, if at all, in San Francisco. Prudent Reinsurers will not give the Insurance Companies the financial cover to do so.
    It is called Risk evaluation.
    
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    July 27, 2017 9:03am
    - Jack5
      
      Paulus, did you read what the agent for Munich re said? This is from Stuff:
      
      Scott Hawkins, of reinsurance giant Munich Re, told an building industry conference in Wellington on Wednesday there could be a “knee jerk reaction” by insurers if New Zealand suffered more earthquakes.
      
      “The provision of insurance might be something that becomes unattainable, which would be an undesired consequence for the economy,” Hawkins said.
      
      Regarding Auckland’s quake risk: both it and Dunedin are in NZ’s “Zone 1” area of low earthquake risk. However, Dunedin suffered a 5.0 quake 5km offshore from St Clair in April 1974. It resulted in 3000 claims to the Earthquake and War Damage Commission.
      
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      July 27, 2017 11:27am
- 4077th
  
  Insurance companies are like banks, they will give you an umbrella when the sun is shining and take it away when it’s raining.
  
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  July 26, 2017 9:13pm
- Paulus
  
  In principle what the Munich Re say is quite correct, but there are some mitigating points in that not all New Zealand is considered high Earthquake Risk eg Auckland, and not all New Zealand are a Volcano Risk eg Dunedin.
  The problem comes when some in the high risk areas feel that those in the lower risk areas are to subsidise their policies financially.
  
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  July 27, 2017 8:56am
nasska

To you I’m an atheist; to God, I’m the Loyal Opposition.

Woody Allen
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  July 27, 2017 1:30am
Monique Watson

Put your dressing gown on. Open a can of beer and breathe. Ignore CNN and take vitamins.
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July 27, 2017 12:01am
Manolo

Honest people, no doubt:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/26/anti-trump-dossier-firm-did-work-corrupt-regimes-r/
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July 27, 2017 7:19am
- Inandout
  
  And the Dems are supporting a crooked Muslim:
  
  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/26/wasserman-schultzs-pakistani-it-guy-arrested-airpo/
  
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  July 27, 2017 9:01am
LisaGinNZ

Bet the NZ media won’t touch an actual story about possible “hacking” that does NOT involve “Russia Russia Russia”… have you heard the Democrat IT guy was arrested trying to “flee” the USA back to Pakistan? From Mark Steyn: http://www.steynonline.com/7997/flight-and-fancy

A bit:

“The enterprsing lad is said to have been trusted by Debbie with her iPad password and other access codes. So in other words – unlike speculation about Putin’s FSB being in DNC computers – we know this guy was in them.

Are the “Russia investigation” and the Awan story comparable? Well, they’re both about hacking, and both about DNC computers. One of them has actual arrests, on-camera political interference, destroyed evidence, and a proven money trail from foreign politicians. The other has no arrests, and a meeting with a minor Russian lawyer arranged by an Azerbaijani pop star’s publicist.

Oh, wait, what about the dodgy property deal?

You mean a family that’s made five mil needing to borrow 165 grand and having to lie about it – which was the pretext for Awan’s arrest at Dulles?

Nah, of course not. We mean Trump’s sale of some Florida condo a decade ago.

Have Chris Cuomo and CNN yet pronounced that it’s illegal for you even to follow the Awan/DNC story? Any moment now.”
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July 27, 2017 7:43am
Manolo

How long will he last?
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/justin-trudeau-canadian-prime-minister-free-worlds-best-hope-w494098
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