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kowtow

Diversity dividend.

“Police have raised concern after groups of youths aged under 15 – one thought to be as young as nine – were caught robbing or trying to rob people in Stockholm last night.”

https://www.thelocal.se/20170724/children-as-young-as-nine-caught-robbing-people-in-stockholm
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July 25, 2017 8:04am
- NK
  
  Children as young as nine commit criminal offences in this country. We had a 13 year old bash a pizza delivery driver some years ago.
  
  What’s your point?
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:28am
  - Gruffydd
    
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    Kowtow reads the local and hyperventilates about minor crime in Scandinavia.
    This hyperventilating makes him high.
    He wants more of us to hyperventilate and get high.
    Therefor.
    The point is sharing the drug around…..
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:34am
    - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
      
      Gruffydd believes Mohammedan children committing violent crimes is “minor”.
      
      Is Gruffydd a Mohammedan and/or non white?
      
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      July 25, 2017 1:14pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        Griff is an Atheist Jizz .
        You could ask mummy to explain what that means to you.
        
        http://www.wisn.com/article/community-unites-after-death-of-a-6-year-old-boy/10348420
        http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/news/crime/2017/07/23/man-arrested-shooting-death-lindenwold-woman/502552001/
        http://cbs4indy.com/2017/07/24/20-year-old-arrested-in-shooting-death-of-muncie-teen/
        
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        July 25, 2017 1:30pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Bailey Junior Kurariki was 12 years, 252 days old when he and a gang of thugs killed Michael Choy.
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:48am
    - NK
      
      Yeah, but he wasn’t from North Africa so it doesn’t count.
      
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      July 25, 2017 8:50am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Perhaps he could be described as a “homegrown terrorist” 😎
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:23am
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        He was brown though.
        
        Seems whenever you get black/brown populations the lawlessness and general social ailments increase massively.
        
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        July 25, 2017 1:10pm
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        “Keeping Stock
        
        Perhaps he could be described as a “homegrown terrorist” ”
        
        Calling a maori a “home grown terrorist”.
        
        Don’t be such a bigot.
        
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        July 25, 2017 1:12pm
      - GoVege
        
        Jazz…that’s generally because brown races are more afflicted with the condition called “sexism”.
        The vast majority of the kids who do these crimes have watched their dads bash their mums, or worse still, abandon the family entirely.
        
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        July 25, 2017 1:21pm
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        “GoVege
        
        Jazz…that’s generally because brown races are more afflicted with the condition called “sexism”.
        The vast majority of the kids who do these crimes have watched their dads bash their mums, or worse still, abandon the family entirely.
        ”
        OMG you saying Colourfuls cant raise their kids properly!
        
        Fascist scum!!!
        
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        July 25, 2017 1:29pm
      - GoVege
        
        Jazz: It’s hard enough for a mum to raise 2 kids with an inoffensive husband.
        Sexist cultures expect every woman, no matter how ill-equipped, to have 6 to 20 to violent, two-timing brutes and not complain.
        Not all are this bad, but they are the exception.
        
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        July 25, 2017 2:10pm
    - GoVege
      
      Not quite that simple.
      It was a terrible crime against a very lovely person.
      But basically these were kids allowed to run wild.
      The kid who actually bashed Michael Choy to death I recall was one of a family of TEN children.
      “every child is a gift from God” y’know?
      
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      July 25, 2017 9:27pm
- Inandout
  
  But there is a glimmer of hope for Sweden.
  
  ‘However, after striking a deal with Morocco the country is now letting more of them return home. In the first five months of this year a total of 82 young Moroccan street children were sent back, compared to 35 last year and only eight the year before, according to the justice ministry’.
  
  Then they can start on the adults.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:46am
  - NK
    
    You must have missed this bit.
    
    The identities of the children were not disclosed.
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:49am
    - kowtow
      
      With the media you must read between the lines to know who committed the crimes. The point is the diversity dividend that the politicians have deliberately imported to their countries creating problems for their own citizens.
      
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      July 25, 2017 8:55am
      - MickMac
        
        It is their own fault and they are reaping what they have sown.
        I find it hard to feel for the Swedes.
        Especially as for a number of years they have had the option to sack the politicians and they haven’t,.
        
        Malmo Police District doesn’t give the origin of the rapists anymore to “preserve social cohesion”
        read islamic migrants
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:27am
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        “MickMac
        
        It is their own fault and they are reaping what they have sown.
        I find it hard to feel for the Swedes.”
        
        Many Swedes oppose the Globohomos ethnic cleansing program of Replacement Migration.
        
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        July 25, 2017 1:20pm
EAD_TWO

Got involved in an interesting discussion with SGA the other night about cultural appropriation. I thought that it was a bit rich of Africans to complain about not being represented in Game of Thrones whereas if the reverse were to apply and Gingers were representing primitive Tribesmen in the movie Zulu, this would no doubt cause an uproar…

SGA laughably claimed that Game of Thrones was a figment of the authors imagination but the author (almost as if reading Kiwiblog) has come along today to burst SGAs SJW bubble ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/game-thrones-race-non-white-characters-books-show/

While Game of Thrones certainly does have a number of prominent non-white cast members, including Nathalie Emmanuel’s Missandei and Jacob Anderson’s Grey Worm, it arguably suffers from a similar problem.

Most of the main action is set among the great houses of the land of Westeros, a continent which George RR Martin, author of the source material A Song of Ice and Fire book series, has said is inspired by Medieval Europe.

In effect, this means that the majority of the show’s main players are white, just as the majority of noble families in Europe in the Middle Ages would have been white.

Apart from completely rebuting SGAs nonsense, why is having White Actors play the part of their fictional ancestors deemed to be a “problem” according to the Author?
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July 25, 2017 8:15am
- RalphT
  
  This will no doubt be followed by another article on the lack of transgender characters in the series.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:23am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    ‘ the lack of transgender characters in the series.’
    
    The number of existing and eunuchs created and alpha females in the series is a bit of a concern: what is the writer alluding to here?
    
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    July 25, 2017 11:01am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Wait till the GoT creators’ next show comes out – it’s already getting a lot of SJW hatred. It’s based in a world where the Confederates won the US Civil War and it is set in the subsequent alternate universe – the one where the Democrats got to keep their slaves!
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:43am
- SGA
  
  pfft – What I actually said was that GoT wasn’t set in Medieval Europe (as you claimed), but, like a lot sword and sorcery fantasy, it employed that technological era. I also said that because this is a fictional world (and it is, EAD), the author could make the people blue and green (the dragons orange, and the Whitewalker’s lavender) if he wanted (and for all I cared).
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:44am
  - Gruffydd
    
    SGA laughably claimed that Game of Thrones was a figment of the authors imagination
    
    EAD has no grasp of reality .
    
    Hello EAD.
    Fantasy is a fiction genre set in an imaginary universe, often but not always without any locations, events, or people from the real world.
    It is not real mate.
    Most of us don’t give a rats fetid arse for the ratio of minority’s in a tv program.
    I don’t care if the doctor is a chick this time around or a hermaphrodite from the forth dimension.
    I only care that it works in context with the story line .
    
    Come to think about it I only know about whats on the idiot box because so many post the latest thing that’s offended them about it on kb .
    Poor pathetic wee snowflakes .
    
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    July 25, 2017 9:01am
    - Kimbo
      
      Most of us don’t give a rats fetid arse for the ratio of minority’s in a tv program.
      I don’t care if the doctor is a chick this time around or a hermaphrodite from the forth dimension.
      I only care that it works in context with the story line .
      
      It got worse. From what I can tell Shawn Herles has also bought into a variation on EAD’s “Protocols of Zion” plot theory – minus the supposed secrecy and the Jews, with multinationals and lib-progs as the bad guys. But same “corruption of our culture by commercialisation and white-guilt to make us all one homogeneous and malleable herd of…sheep”. Baaa! So the GoT example is a tangible manifestation. Ok, or it could be a LARP set to story form. Am reminded of British morals guardian Mary Whitehouse warning in the 1970s about the sinister plot to undermine the morals of British youth via…Dr Who! 😉
      
      Yeah, ok. My take? GoT is just another offering for the anorak wearing demographic, who, due to mass technology and mass communication flourish all over the world. Including invading and annexing our far land for their nefarious globalist purposes, starting in places like…Matamata. Shit, there may be something to this theory of sinister mass-manipulation! 😉
      
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      July 25, 2017 9:09am
      - Kimbo
        
        Please note, Shawn, like my posts yesterday, which were in the form of a question, that above post included the phrase, “From what I can tell Shawn Herles has also bought into…”.
        
        Which means my statements are not misrepresentations of your theory, but rather it is provisional on you elucidating and clarifying your ~~ravings~~ ideas, and posting further links to some ~~ultra right-wing plot theorist’s~~ cultural commentator’s book which you are shilling here on Kiwiblog…
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:20am
      - Gruffydd
        
        Yes kimbo
        I read Shawn’s rant and the one a few comments later that claimed not to believe in conspiracy.
        I even wrote a witty well construct point by point deconstruction of his comments .
        Scrubbed it as Shawn is another who is oblivious to reason. Engaging with him is an invitation down a rabbit hole into another dimension.
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:24am
      - Shawn Herles
        
        Kimberly claims: “From what I can tell”
        
        Translation: “I am now going to tell a lie…”
        
        “Shawn Herles has also bought into a variation on EAD’s “Protocols of Zion” plot theory”
        
        I completely rebutted, destroyed even, this claim when you made it yesterday. I reject the notion of any plot or conspiracy. What I was talking about was a mix of economic issues and a currently fashionable political movement, the interactions of which is an unforeseen accident of history, and neither of which amounts to a plot or a conspiracy.
        
        I did give you the dictionary definition of both “plot” and “conspiracy” and proved that what I had said did not conform to either, so I assume it was a little too technical for you?
        
        I’ll try to find a dictionary written for 5 year olds. 🙂
        
        “Which means my statements are not misrepresentations of your theory, but rather it is provisional on you elucidating and clarifying”
        
        As my meaning was obvious, and to an honest person looking for honest discussion or debate, no “elucidating and clarifying” would be necessary, I stand by my view that you’re lying. Or possibly just very stupid. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt on the latter.
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:32am
      - Kimbo
        
        I reject the notion of any plot or conspiracy.
        
        Indeed. Which is why I wrote,
        
        minus the supposed secrecy
        
        and you yourself wrote yesterday (my emphasis):
        
        This is not about conspiracies, but about ideas and ideology
        
        and you also dodged my question yesterday:
        
        So I am right about your theory, that, secrecy or not, the multinationals and lib-Progs are seeking to achieve what was meant to be the agenda of the Elders of Zion?
        
        as well as my invitation:
        
        you seem to have overlooked that I did not make a statement about your theory, but rather, posed the question in search of further elucidation and/or clarification from you. Feel free to retract your accusation as a matter of integrity and honour, but I won’t hold my breath
        
        But I also note, under stress, you revert to your usual cunt-like behaviour of…misusing my name. Like Dr Strangelove, he can’t help himself. Kick the tyres and probe for a few weak points on the ideas of the ultra-conservative Christian, and it suddenly gets personal, and, despite expressing supposed remorse and repentance for that behaviour, it melts like a snow cone in the sun. Well done. Shawn. as usual, you have proved the best attack-ad on your ideology, morality and behaviour.
        
        Oh, yes, and:
        
        I completely rebutted, destroyed…
        
        Kimbo’s law! Thanks for helping to turn it into a meme 😉
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:41am
      - Shawn Herles
        
        “So I am right about your theory”
        
        No, not even close.
        
        “that, secrecy or not, the multinationals and lib-Progs are seeking to achieve what was meant to be the agenda of the Elders of Zion?”
        
        No. The multinationals have no ideological agenda. For them it’s just about economic issues.
        
        And for the Prog-Liberal Left it’s about their notion of identity politics.
        
        Neither neo-liberal economics nor progressive identity politics are in the Protocols.
        
        Your argument is akin to claiming that anyone who wants to reduce immigration levels is on the same page as the Nazis, or that anyone who, like myself, supports a basic welfare safety net, is on the same page as the Communists.
        
        It’s a dishonest argument based on a straw man and using a remarkably silly guilt by supposed association tactic.
        
        Have you been taking debate lessons from mikenmild? 🙂
        
        Anyway, I’m moving house today, so feel free to twitter amongst yourselves.
        
        “you revert to your usual cunt-like behaviour of…misusing my name.”
        
        That’s not stress, that’s entertainment. Because I know it enrages your delicate sensibilities and pricks your massive yet fragile ego. And honestly, doing that is just pure fun. 🙂
        
        P.S. Congratulations to Griff and Kimberly on their budding bromance. 🙂
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:51am
      - Kimbo
        
        So I am right about your theory
        
        Yet you left out the question mark from my above quote. Now, why would you do that? Can’t even lie straight. And it was posed as a genuine question, and probe for clarification. So, do you think your readiness to revert defensively to ideological battle stations says something about your lack of dispassionate analysis? (Again, that’s a question…)
        
        No. The multinationals have no ideological agenda. For them it’s just about economic issues.
        
        yet you also say of the same group
        
        Big business/global corporations want a single global market with unrestricted movement of goods and peoples. and to turn people into a global pool of rootless consumers with no other loyalties than the short term satisfaction of wants, wants that are easily manipulated by advertising. This requires destroying peoples natural loyalties, national, cultural and familial. Mass immigration goes a long way to achieve this.
        
        Sounds ideological to me. But, even if it is not, the effect is the same as the ideological lib-progs and/or the Elders of Zion, right? So
        
        Neither neo-liberal economics nor progressive identity politics are in the Protocols.
        
        Indeed, but the alleged outcome that the supposed plot of the Elders of Zion is still the goal of the multinationals and lib-progs. Right? (that’s a question, btw).
        
        Your argument is akin to claiming that anyone who wants to reduce immigration levels is on the same page as the Nazis,
        
        I’m not making any such claim, nor trying to do a “Godwins” on you. I’m asking the question, and kicking the tyres on your ‘analysis”, which, rather than a dispassionate analysis of mega-trends driven by technology, by coincidence looks more like a rehashed version of the prescription to undermine white Christian society in the Protocols…minus the secrecy, and replacing the Jews with others as the bad guys.
        
        Kimberly
        
        Yet you expressed repentance and remorse. Or is that misrepresenting you too?
        
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        July 25, 2017 10:08am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Most of us don’t give a rats fetid arse for the ratio of minority’s in a tv program.
      
      You know what Griff, on it’s own, I wouldn’t care either, but as part of a wider movement in society about positive discrimination (where we are encouraged to promote people not on merit, but rather their gender, colour, age, sexual orientation etc.) I care a lot.
      
      It is why we have people like Turei and even, Todd Barclay (face it if he wasn’t “the young face of National”, his brief career hardly warranted selection as an MP) in Parliament in the name of equality,
      
      We, as a society, are replacing reason with emotion which is the path to oblivion.
      
      EDIT: In saying that, along comes Kimbo!
      
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      July 25, 2017 9:11am
      - SGA
        
        We, as a society, are replacing reason with emotion which is the path to oblivion.
        
        Fear and hatred and emotions too, EAD 🙂
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:24am
      - Kimbo
        
        EDIT: In saying that, along comes Kimbo!
        
        What can I say? I just got the message from my handlers at lib-prob/global capitalist central that there was a danger the truth about GoT was being exposed, so I was assigned to muddy the waters.
        
        Now, please, for my sake, desist, or if not, I’m for the shark-with-laser-beams treatment when I report back to head office…
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7bYNAHXxw
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:28am
      - Kimbo
        
        We, as a society, are replacing reason with emotion which is the path to oblivion.
        
        Hmm. I think I’ve found another example, and this sort of shit has been going on for fifty years!!
        
        When the dog bites, when the bee stings
        When I’m feeling sad
        I simply remember my favorite things
        And then I don’t feel so bad
        Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
        Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
        Brown paper packages tied up with strings
        These are a few of my favorite things
        
        (((Rodgers and Hammerstein)))
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:31am
    - Shawn Herles
      
      Final point, then I need to start packing.
      
      Kimbo’s claim is basically this:
      
      Apart from the fact that there is no secret conspiracy, and apart from the fact that their is no plot, and apart from the fact that there is no little cabal of power players involved in a secret plot, and apart from the fact that my view has nothing to do with Jews, my claims are just like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion! 🙂
      
      I’ll leave it to others to decide of Kimbo has been possessed by the spirit of mikenmild or stephieboy. 🙂
      
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      July 25, 2017 10:06am
      - Kimbo
        
        Simple questions:
        
        Is your envisaged goal of multinational and lib-prog policies and/or efforts the same as that of the Elders in the Protocols?
        
        So rather than a sensible analysis, you are shilling the ideas of ultra-right wingers, who, rather than making money off anti-Semitism now blame another bunch of “bad guys”? Fair enough. You gotta sell books, but don’t have any new ideas, just drop out a few of the elements, and drop in new ones, and switch the antagonists? I think we call that a…reboot?
        
        Note, the question marks.
        
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        July 25, 2017 10:19am
      - Gruffydd
        
        What gets me is the hatred of neo liberalism
        Oh for a tradis to take the poor saps back to NZ 1980.
        Into the post office workshops were two mates of mine “worked”
        One built and campaigned an offroader the other trained up to a world ranking in squash.
        Mean time you tried to get a phone connected and it was couple of months maybe…The phone itself came in one style black only.
        We could go on a train journey.
        I needed to get from AK to Wellington in about 1981 so rang the rail service.
        No body could tell me the price or the frequency of the trains….
        
        We could follow freight around the country.
        One of the first jobs I had was of a storeman.
        We had to freight anything over 80km on the trains.
        You would deliver your pallets to the freight depo and if you were lucky some of it would turn up at its destination in a couple of weeks.
        I once got caught out by signing for pallets of beer with the center boxes carefully removed.
        
        You could marvel at the fact every house had the same clock radio, the same stereo, the same fridge,the same bloody awful axminster carpet
        
        Drive in one of the rubbish pommy cars we brought offshore, paid someone to dismantle shipped here then reassembled.
        C.K.D Was the term.
        Make work for a bunch of pommy commie imports to strike over .
        
        Meantime a few wealthy family made a fortune on import licensees that were a license to take money
        out of the working mans pocket
        Or they owned a protected industry that made cost plus rubbish with limited selection , no quality control and no thought for efficiency. You had no choice but to buy the overpriced crap.
        
        Trumpism: protectionism is the worst idea for a kiwi to back.
        We owe our present standard of living to the neoliberal free global market place.
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:28am
      - sam green
        
        “Final point, then I need to start packing.”
        
        Thank god – he’s fucking off.
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:55am
      - Kimbo
        
        Thank god – he’s fucking off.
        
        ‘
        
        Yes, although his pressing engagements have a tendency to occur right about the same time his obfuscation and dissembling are challenged…
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:59am
      - calendar girl
        
        Gruffydd @ 11:28am – New Zealand seems to have had many misplaced policy and structural settings back in 1980, as you point out so vividly.
        
        But the country had many attractions, too. If everything was as bleak as you suggest it was, why did you remain in New Zealand? And why, during the period that you speak of, did immigration to New Zealand remain positive – rather than swing to a net outflow? Anyway, most of us are pleased that you personally are still among us.
        
        It’s not difficult to criticise, selectively, poor decision-making of the past. But overall our small country hasn’t done too badly for itself. Compared with much of the globe, we live in a relatively comfortable and benign social and economic environment.
        
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        July 25, 2017 2:15pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ calendar girl
        
        back in 1980…during the period that you speak of, did immigration to New Zealand remain positive – rather than swing to a net outflow?
        
        Not, it didn’t. It was the era of dramatic immigration outflow, such that the joke was, “will the last Kiwi to leave New Zealand please turn out the lights?”.
        
        Population growth had slowed in the mid-1970s, and this trend continued in the 1980s…By the end of the decade there was a net annual outflow of more than 30,000 with nearly 60% of all Kiwis moving overseas, included many young Māori, heading for Australia.
        
        https://nzhistory.govt.nz/culture/the-1980s/overview
        
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        July 25, 2017 2:54pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        Why did I stay here ?
        lifestyle.
        I was a keen diver fisherman.
        I could work all week then spend my weekends diving the poor nights or walking into a remote rockfishing spot trying for a twenty pounder .
        It is hard to find a better place to live if you are keen on the outdoors.
        
        I spent some time working for a protected industry
        Back around 1980 I was earning $40,000 a year making shitty crossply tires for mini minors. Done a season in the works pushing warm carcasses around a chain for good money. Earning well young set me up for life
        
        NZ is an stunningly beautiful place that we are very lucky to call home.
        
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        July 25, 2017 3:10pm
      - calendar girl
        
        Thanks, Gruffyd @ 3.01 – I enjoyed your answer, which bears out why many NZers of the day and later immigrants continue to live in this country, despite its distance-related high costs and relative cultural isolation.
        
        You obviously made wise choices in stashing away a good proportion of your high earning from hard and (dare I say?) ‘unfashionable’ occupations nearly 40 years ago. So you deserve the comforts that you enjoy today.
        
        I agree with you heartily: “NZ is an stunningly beautiful place that we are very lucky to call home.”
        
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        July 25, 2017 4:28pm
    - Jack5
      
      Kimbo at 9.41 speaks of “…your usual cunt-like behaviour of…misusing my name.”
      
      I didn’t know that the female external genitalia can talk. And to think they know your name …
      
      Do I need to go to a hearing clinic? Have I always been deaf?
      
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      July 25, 2017 11:18am
      - Gruffydd
        
        Mumble pants.
        I can see your lips move but the hell if I know what you are saying.
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:32am
      - Jack5
        
        I’ll let you know if hearing aids work for this, Griff.
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:43am
      - Gabby
        
        You don’t really get similes do you jacksie.
        
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        July 25, 2017 12:51pm
      - Jack5
        
        You hear them talking to you all the time, do you Gabby? It’s usually God folk like you hear in their heads.
        
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        July 25, 2017 2:05pm
      - Gabby
        
        Those voices you think other people hear in their heads jacksie? That’s why yes you fucking do need to go to a hearing clinic. And no, those trucks aren’t ‘sneaking up’ on you.
        
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        July 26, 2017 10:31am
- Fletch
  
  The liberal USA Today also complained about not enough women or black people in Dunkirk.
  
  The trio of timelines can be jarring as you figure out how they all fit, and the fact that there are only a couple of women and no lead actors of color may rub some the wrong way.
  
  https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/07/17/review-christopher-nolan-excellent-dunkirk-explores-heroism-innovative-fashion/482574001/
  
  Well, duh…
  
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  July 25, 2017 11:45am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I do think the comment about few female actors and no lead actor of colour is satire…… it has been doing the rounds over the last week or so.
    
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    July 25, 2017 11:53am
  - cha
    
    or black people in Dunkirk.
    
    Of course there were no black people in Dunkirk. Around 120,000 French troops were evacuated but black French colonial troops were left to their own devices – and massacred in their thousands.
    
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    July 25, 2017 12:53pm
mister nui

So, if the left are in with such a great chance this election, as they and their friends in the media keep telling us, why are the financial markets not saying the same thing? Our $ is staying very high, and if there was a sign of the left winning and therefore electoral uncertainty, it would be falling.

Remember, the financial markets are much smarter than all the polling companies put together.
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July 25, 2017 8:16am
- dime
  
  yeah man. if you want to know whats going on in the world. check the markets.
  
  turns out, people controlling trillions know more than the 22 year old girls running the herald and stuff.
  
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  July 25, 2017 10:27am
Happychappy

Has the media decided Todd Barclay is back and is fair game so it is time to close the story of fraud on the Green Leader just like they did on slave Labour and the Political fraud that Labour used to pay for these interns to spread the change the Government motto from Matt the rat tax fraudster.
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July 25, 2017 8:22am
- Keeping Stock
  
  It seems that way Happychappy. Barclay will be stalked around Parliament all day, whilst Ms Turei will be allowed to breeze into the House this afternoon as though nothing has happened.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:26am
- waikatogirl
  
  Happy you are on the button:
  
  Todd Barclay, who is on $170,000 salary, arrived at Parliament at 7am through the back door.
  So says Duncan Garner.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:29am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    And Newshub just happened to have Lloyd Burr waiting by the back door; a complete coincidence, of course.
    
    Is it any wonder that journalists rate even lower than politicians in surveys of trusted occupations?
    
    PS: Care to tell us what YOUR salary is Mr Garner? Thought not…
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:41am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Will the arrival of the fraudster frog through the back door be announced today by the msm?
      
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      July 25, 2017 8:50am
      - Kimbo
        
        Or Kiwiblog? 😉
        
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        July 25, 2017 8:53am
      - NK
        
        If it was would you condemn it like KS has done over Barclay?
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:05am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        It’s the double standard that pisses me off NK. Barclay was a fool if he recorded his staff member, but he has yet to be charged with a crime. let alone convicted. But the media has decided he must be pursued relentlessly
        
        Turei on the other hand has made a public confession of a systematic and sustained benefit fraud, and yet she is now a media darling with the liberal left.
        
        There is a clear and obvious bias on display here, but then again, why would we expect anything different from our media?
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:29am
      - Rich Prick
        
        The media have been banging on about Barclay for so long now it’s become meaningless babble. Each report reveals nothing new nor relevant. Whereas the benefit fraudster is fast approaching sainthood.
        
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        July 25, 2017 12:12pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        I was disgusted this morning by TV3 referring in the news bulletin that “Todd Barclay ‘slithered’ in the back door of Parliament”.
        
        As the reporter at Parliament described, Todd actually strolled in the door. Whether he has anything to answer or not, that was appalling.
        
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        July 25, 2017 2:38pm
    - NK
      
      I look forward to your condemnation of this type of behaviour from journos when it’s levied against a Labour or Green MP.
      
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      July 25, 2017 9:05am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Refer to my 9.29am comment above NK.
        
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        July 25, 2017 10:03am
    - Liberty
      
      It is hypocritical of TV3 hacks to get all moralistic over a National MPs income
      When TV3 sucks of the state tit via NZ on air.
      It is also selective reporting as there are number of B team MPs
      Who no one has heard of since the last election. With the usual crap
      “They want to be a MP so they can make a difference”
      
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      July 25, 2017 11:28am
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    Good on Todd getting to work early to catch up on stuff that he didn’t have with him, it seems to have escaped everybody in the media’s notice that Parliament was in recess and that he had leave owing.
    
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    July 25, 2017 9:39am
- oldgolfer
  
  Quite right HappyChappy.
  The feeling must be that he is fair game because of the English connection, i.e, get Barclay, get Bill.
  The news ”selection” is overt.
  It’s the same with MSM’s selection of ”experts” to pass judgement on various issues.
  I play a game now wherein I guess who will be wheeled up for ”analysis” and I’m usually right.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:34am
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Dorks has always been offensive towards Christianity, I don’t recall that ever being a censorship issue with the media who were always happy to host his bile. But now that the religion of peace ,they who must not be offended , are in the gun suddenly the media find some principles or is it cowardice ?
The lessons of Charlie Hebdo /Danish cartoons well learned , or do the media think it’s OK to offend their own culture but not the foreign?

“Richard Dawkins has denied using “abusive speech against Islam” after a California radio station cancelled a book event with the scientist, citing his comments on Islam, which it said had “offended and hurt … so many people”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jul/24/richard-dawkins-event-cancelled-over-his-abusive-speech-against-islam

ps No comments on this in the Guardian. ?
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July 25, 2017 8:23am
- Inandout
  
  We are talking about California here, not a normal State by any measure. Snowflake Central and a sanctuary state, so therein lies the insanity. They are more concerned with protecting those who hate the US with a vengeance.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:54am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    and the 6th biggest economy in the world
    
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    July 25, 2017 11:15am
  - Sublime
    
    Inandout: We are talking about California here, not a normal State by any measure.
    
    I like California, I really do. But your description of it is not inaccurate, at least in some parts of the state. Funny that it’s right next to Nevada … high freedom, low to no taxes. The opposite of California.
    
    Paulus Gnome: and the 6th biggest economy in the world
    
    Yes. In high school I remember we were told it was the fifth-largest in the world. Always significant, not to be overlooked.
    
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    July 25, 2017 7:08pm
- GoVege
  
  Dawkins hasn’t got an abusive bone in his body..
  .he is the quintessential polite English man.
  But…my feelings were very hurt when I learned he still eats animals even though he acknowledges how closely related we are.
  But I’m sure the animals’ feelings were hurt more.
  
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  July 25, 2017 2:25pm
waikatogirl

Simon Bridges says Manawatu Gorge Road will likely close. It has been shut since April with the latest huge slip. The NZTA is investigating alternate routes, either improving the Saddle Road which has already had $8m improvements since the slips in the gorge, or likely a whole new permanent route to be announced by the end of the year.
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July 25, 2017 8:24am
- NK
  
  Vote for Winston – he’ll be there to re-open it. That’s straight after he’s re-entered Pike River and immediately prior to him spinning the wool to make the carpet for government ministries.
  
  Are you there, Chuck?
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:31am
  - holysheet
    
    Chuck is down at the narrowerhere police station making his complaint against the gween fraudster.
    Hope he didn’t forget the drunken dwarf and the taxpayers $158K.
    
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    July 25, 2017 10:35am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Nick are you still supporting ACT?
    
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    July 25, 2017 4:56pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  There was another large slip in the Gorge yesterday, around 500 metres from the slip that has blocked the road since April. That could be the final nail in the coffin for the road.
  
  What’s been done with Alice, the Chinese-made tunnel boring maching? Perhaps she could be pressed into service again.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:38am
  - NK
    
    If it’s from China, Winston will ban it. He’ll want something made by “New Zealanders” so he can say he put “New Zealanders First”!
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:52am
    - Happychappy
      
      Did he do that with Wilson’s Whisky, you could bet your bottom dollar that Winston First would only drink big brand named Whisky when out and about.
      
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      July 25, 2017 9:13am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      Does that include the NZF apparel they are flogging to members which they were outed as having been made in China?
      
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      July 25, 2017 9:48am
    - sooty
      
      Yeah, its called the unemployed. Pick,shovel and wheebarrow. If it was good enough for the grandfathers.
      
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      July 25, 2017 12:48pm
  - holysheet
    
    that’s terribly racist of you KS. What wrong with a good old kiwibuild machine?
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:55am
  - Paulus
    
    Alice went back to Germany where it was built.
    
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    July 25, 2017 1:24pm
- Inandout
  
  Hell, the problem has been discussed for 50 odd years, and has merely been pushed aside. However, this MP will be feeling a little unsettled if the local outrage transfers into protest votes.
  
  https://alastairscott.national.org.nz/
  
  Dannevirke and Woodville will be beset by MPs in the coming days as they smell blood.
  
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  July 25, 2017 9:05am
- Sublime
  
  Waikatogirl: … or likely a whole new permanent route to be announced by the end of the year.
  
  Yeah, I reckon the Gorge is toast. The locals know it and the general feeling in the region is one of ‘well, it is what it is’ and that something different needs to be done.
  
  KS is right. A tunnel is an option worth considering. Yes, I know it won’t be cheap etc, but the Saddle is a dog of a road at best. Some big dollars will be needed to make it only marginally better.
  
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  July 25, 2017 7:12pm
Prince

Labour’s definition of ‘Integrity’.

Kelvin Davis pledges to resign if Charter schools, which are proving to be successful for those previously failing the State School system, are closed.
Hipkins says they may not close so long as they bend the knee to the State school jackboot and repudiate their unique nature.

Davis says that’s OK then.

The photos of Little and Hipkins in this article say more than the words.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95039162/labour-to-tweak-special-character-schools-save-charter-schools-from-closure
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July 25, 2017 8:31am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Right; so Charter Schools are OK, as long as they aren’t called Charter Schools. Wow; what a fantastic policy Labour; not.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:39am
  - VicParking
    
    Flip flop flip flop. They are starting to look like those question time snapper.
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:52am
  - Happychappy
    
    KS : Will Winston follow this flip flop with one of his own as they are opposed to Chater Schools also.
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:53am
VicParking

Red Radio this morning tried and tried to get cheap hits with Boris Johnson but he was in a different league than Guyon. In the end, being pissed off with the line of questioning, he cut of the interview himself. Boris 10 Guyon 0
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July 25, 2017 8:46am
- Inandout
  
  Boris is probably wondering ‘what is that Guy On’?
  
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  July 25, 2017 9:08am
- 4077th
  
  Guyon_A_Spinner!
  
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  July 25, 2017 9:09am
  - Gabby
    
    Reminds me of a fellow in the 8063rd. Bit of a mixup over a fat Englishman and a big bus. Hilarious.
    
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    July 25, 2017 10:19pm
- oldgolfer
  
  It was so lovely:
  Guyon kept throwing skinny-armed punches, but Boris, his hair all over the place, either stepped aside or repelled the blows, such as they were.
  Boris, of course, used to be in the game; he knows when to jab, when to weave, when to unload the haymaker.
  In Guyon’s case, he barely raised a sweat.
  
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  July 25, 2017 9:16am
  - alex Masterley
    
    Guyon E is a rank amateur compared to the UK political interviewers.
    
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    July 25, 2017 9:25am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Gushing Guyon got to the point where he got in a couple of cheap hits about Trump, thought he was really a cutting thrusting interviewer.
    
    Boris batted him with ease, always a delight to see gushy getting a clip around the ears
    
    Gushy thinks he is Jeremy Paxman, in reality, he is Mr Knobby.
    
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    July 25, 2017 11:24am
  - Gabby
    
    Blobby Jobby can say nothing at great length and volume. Which is what he did. He’s also a lying sack o shit. Thank goodness Bingles is more frank and open.
    
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    July 25, 2017 1:03pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      You do know the black stuff in the kitty litter are not really truffles don’t you?
      
      Please go back to licking the bars on your cot, then we will know your issue is a slow death brought on by lead poisoning.
      
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      July 25, 2017 1:49pm
      - Gabby
        
        Blobby Jobby insists that lead paint is mindnumbingly beautiful as an appetiser puller goon.
        
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        July 25, 2017 7:43pm
    - calendar girl
      
      I don’t think that it’s acceptable for the visiting British Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, to be referred to on the absent DPF’s personal blog as “a lying sack o shit”. Accordingly, I have ‘reported’ Gabby’s disgusting 1:03pm comment.
      
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      July 25, 2017 5:01pm
      - Gabby
        
        How very pofaced of you. Blobby Jobby would snigger in your face.
        
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        July 25, 2017 7:44pm
MCos

I see Charlie Gard will shortly pass away after life support is withdrawn. Anyone who has had kids, and most people who haven’t, will know the terrible situation his parents have been put in with seemingly everybody having an opinion on what should be done. Most people without much of a clue of the medical intricacies the wee bugger has faced. Also there’s people offering advice who seem to have their own barrow to push.
Personally I’m a bit skeptical about the Americans with the miracle cure, but the publicity won’t do them any harm. Right to the end Charlie’s parents, like any parents, seemed convinced they may have restored their boy to full health.
Over the years I’ve heard of many unorthodox treatments, usually for cancer, that people spent a fortune on. Invariably they result in disappointment.
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July 25, 2017 8:53am
- alex Masterley
  
  Agreed.
  
  It is sad for the little chap.
  
  May he rest in peace and may his parents find their own peace as well.
  
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  July 25, 2017 9:23am
RF

New Zealand has its own Hillary Clinton.

Crooked Metiria.

Quite like that. Hope it sticks……………..

We shall remember.
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July 25, 2017 9:04am
Manolo

The burial is taking too long:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-obamacare-death-n786006

President Donald Trump declared the Affordable Care Act a “meaningless promise” Monday, using his presidential bully pulpit to amplify his calls for action on stalled Republican attempts to repeal and replace Obamacare — which he called “death” at one point.
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July 25, 2017 9:06am
BananaLlama

Two fundamental truths for you all cheering those who opt to remain childless.

Childless couples have no future.
Demographics are your nations destiny.
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July 25, 2017 9:20am
- BananaLlama
  
  Downticks but no Rebuttle. You can do better than this Kiwibloggers.
  
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  July 25, 2017 9:42am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’ll reply…
  
  When I die… I’m dead…. diddly squat future… apart from dissipation of decomposing molecules…..
  
  I have children…. if they outlive me.. then it’s THEIR future…… not mine, not their daddies… it’s theirs.
  
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  July 25, 2017 9:49am
  - BananaLlama
    
    Only Maggy Wassilieff dies her genes live on in her children. If you opt to have no children thats fine but don’t act surprised when you are praying in a sharia state because the future will no longer belong to you.
    
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    July 25, 2017 9:59am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Now you are talking about genes…
      yep, they go on through the generations…
      but in different combinations….. which I have no control over.
      
      However, your original posting was not about genes…. it was about childless couples.
      
      I’m sure Hubby & my future would have been quite different if we hadn’t produced our fabulous kids.
      We would have been $$$$$$$$$$$ slightly well-off.
      
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      July 25, 2017 10:31am
      - BananaLlama
        
        Why? Are the two of them separate? i don’t think so and yes there is some degree of control over which genes combine in certain combinations it is not completely random.
        
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        July 25, 2017 10:34am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @BananaLlama
        
        Back in the days when I used to ovulate…. produce an egg/ovum that could be available for fertilisation.. I had no idea, let alone control, of which of my genes ended up in that egg……. likewise with a man’s spermatozoa.
        (Check out meiosis, independent assortment, recombination).
        
        Anyway, if the original point of your posting was to suggest that non-moslems should start breeding so that they are not overwhelmed by Sharia believers, why not make that point?
        
        Still there is nothing to say that my descendants won’t become Believers in the future. I am not in control of their futures.
        
        Interestingly enough… my life and that of my children would not have come about, if it had not been for that childless Mr Hitler….. he influenced quite a few folks’ futures.
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:07am
      - BananaLlama
        
        Behavior and intelligence are inheritable traits which is why you have beautiful, smart, well tempered children Maggy 😉 and i believe i made that point at the beginning when i made a statement that childless couples have no future. As for childless politicians they should not be running nation states i don’t trust their judgment in the slightest.
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:25am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        beautiful, smart, well tempered children
        
        We can but dream…..
        
        I have interesting children….. and just in case any of them ever spy on KB, I will write no more.
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:57am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Sure, but my genes aren’t “me” as such. I’m a great fan of having children, I do regret not having more, as the ones I do have are such a treasure.
      
      People are free to chose to remain childless, I only think that it is sad that they won’t find out the joys that children bring – along with all the associated problems and costs of course, but the pleasure is worth every minute. I am exceedingly glad that so far, I haven’t had a “Charlie Gard” moment, and devoutly hope I will indeed die before my children, but after they have their own children.
      
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      July 25, 2017 10:35am
- Gabby
  
  You have no future bangamama.
  
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  July 25, 2017 1:05pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    Don’t be salty Gobby i can always say you have no brain.
    
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    July 25, 2017 1:30pm
    - Gabby
      
      You just did bangamama, but in the future you don’t have it still won’t matter.
      
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      July 25, 2017 7:40pm
waikatogirl

Winston has declared that he will announce on Oct 12th whether he will go with Labour or National.

I do hope Winnie does not even get the opportunity to announce anything when NZfirst votes don’t eventuate.
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July 25, 2017 9:33am
- 4077th
  
  2 Ticks National
  
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  July 25, 2017 10:15am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I feel a blue no support required 51% of the vote coming on, allowing the bow tied boffanted buffoon to shuffle off stage and Winston to bring forward the announcement of his retirement to 9.30pm on September 23rd
  
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  July 25, 2017 11:30am
Chris R

Ms Turei, by dragging her daughter into her “reasons for fraud campaign” has highlighted superbly how inter-generational welfare dependency has taken root and flourished. Her daughter is to be pitied for having a greasy deceitful Greenie for a mother, but deserves condemnation for joining her in the deceit now it has been given air. The media grasped her whining with glee without stopping to ponder whether the daughter actually agrees with the actions of her ne’er-do-well mother.
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July 25, 2017 9:37am
G152

On October the 13th both labour and the nats will say no to the peed Peters party
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July 25, 2017 9:41am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  On September 24th the Nats will be able to announce it’s business as usual and Winnie can run over to the motorway and bark at passing cars.
  
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  July 25, 2017 9:55am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Haven’t you forgotten something?
    
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    July 25, 2017 10:20am
    - Gabby
      
      He doesn’t forget to change them damingygoat. He likes it crusty.
      
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      July 25, 2017 1:07pm
      - Jack5
        
        Gabby, that’s a particularly puerile play on the pseudonym, thedavincimode. Then the humour attempt is that of some aged about age 11.
        
        Gabby, you must feel more at home at the Standard.
        
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        July 25, 2017 2:53pm
      - Gabby
        
        I so wish I was a big selfimportant grownup like you jacksie.
        
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        July 25, 2017 7:37pm
4077th

House resumes today. Popcorn at the ready! Here’s hoping the smirking, green, bullfrog get’s her comeuppance.
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July 25, 2017 10:17am
- sooty
  
  I would it is not a bullfrog. I think it is closer to a cane toad. Poisonous.
  
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  July 25, 2017 12:57pm
- Paulus
  
  No, there will be concerted go at Barclay instead.
  Fat Frog will get off scot free.
  
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  July 25, 2017 1:28pm
backster

Regarding the closure of the Manawatu Gorge I can’t but wonder whether it has been labelled unsafe according to the new health and safety dogma instead of being good with repairs for another 150 years under the old. Maybe the Buller Gorge, Skippers Canyon and many other mountain to Coast routes will also fail to meet the strictures of the Department.
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July 25, 2017 10:22am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Skippers Canyon doesn’t count. It’s a dead-end track to nowhere.
  
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  July 25, 2017 10:27am
- Lance
  
  What part of ‘constantly having massive slips’ don’t you get?
  Do you think it’s some sort of conspiracy theory?
  
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  July 25, 2017 10:43am
Dafixeruppa

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/95036900/sexism-remains-in-early-childhood-sector-lobbyists-say

I work in Education (at the moment) and even I didn’t realise it was this bad.
Reading the comments is enlightening too, and potentially heartening to any male thinking about taking up the profession… although there may be many comments that are do as we say not as we do within the “supporters” ranks.
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July 25, 2017 11:23am
Manolo

The Democratic Party rejoices:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/g00/news/local/breaking/ct-weekend-shootings-chicago-violence20170724-story.html?i10c.referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fdrudgereport.com%2F

At least six people were killed and 35 others were wounded in weekend violence in Chicago as the number of homicides continues to outpace last year.

There have been at least 391 homicides this year, four more than last year when violence reached levels not seen in two decades, according to data kept by the Tribune.
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July 25, 2017 11:37am
- kowtow
  
  Yep ,and Democrats, churches , NGOs etc who hold out hope for illegal immigrants coming to the US to so called sanctuary cities are also at least partly responsible for these deaths.
  
  The only way to properly control your borders , to discourage illegal immigration and the exploitation of these people is to have the strictest criteria . The only way in is the lawful way in.
  
  If the EU did that then thousands of migrants would not have drowned in the attempt.
  
  If Australia can do it then so can everyone else.
  
  “A truck driver faces the possibility of the death penalty or life in prison under a federal criminal complaint filed against him Monday in the deaths of 10 immigrants who were being smuggled in a stifling tractor-trailer found in a Walmart parking lot here.”
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/24/us/san-antonio-truck-trafficking.html
  
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  July 25, 2017 1:04pm
Jack5

Alan Duff’s column in the Hooerald is interesting on Shane Jones and Winston Peters.

I didn’t know Peters played for the Maori All Blacks when he was young.

I did a bit of further research. That rugby history and the fact that his mother is from Clan McInnes in the Western Highlands and the Isles might put him in line for a party vote from the Scots-pale Ngai Tahu of Southland-Otago.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11894510
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July 25, 2017 11:40am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I didn’t know Peters played for the Maori All Blacks when he was young
  
  Now that’s an interesting way of wording it……
  
  He “trialled” for the MABs.
  
  Is that the same as “played for”?
  
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  July 25, 2017 12:03pm
  - Jack5
    
    According to Wikipedia, Maggy:
    
    He [Peters] was a member of the University Rugby Club in Auckland and captain of the Auckland Maori Rugby team. He also played in the Prince of Wales Cup for the Maori All Blacks.
    
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    July 25, 2017 12:07pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Wiki is wrong – the Prince of Wales Cup was contested in Peters’ playing days between Northern and Southern Maori, and usually acted as the trial for selection for New Zealand Maori. For whom Peters has not played. Auckland Maori (whose matches are not usually first class fixtures), yes…
      
      But yes, like another 1990 National MP, Graham Thorne, Peters played for (Auckland) University. And like Thorne, Peters was a three-quarter. Thorne was a centre in the first instance who sometimes played on the wing whereas Peters was a specialist wing. Not sure if it was right or left, but judging by his policies, maybe a bit of both! 😉
      
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      July 25, 2017 12:15pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Wikipedia is right – it says ‘Maori All Blacks trials’. Jack either can’t read or is deliberately misleading…
        Also, Wikipedia has no article on Maori rugby generally, just on the Maori All Blacks. Added to the to do list.
        
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        July 25, 2017 12:57pm
      - Kimbo
        
        They have got one on the monumental tour by the 1888/89 NZ Native team…
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1888%E2%80%9389_New_Zealand_Native_football_team
        
        With links to the likes of their significant players like Joe Warbrick, Jack Taiaroa, Davy Gage, Tommy Ellison, Tabby Wynyard and (Birmingham-born) Paddy Keogh…
        
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        July 25, 2017 1:08pm
      - Kimbo
        
        …and another on “Opai” Asher. His conversion to league and attempt to scoop the pool of Maori talent led to the NZ Rugby union bringing Maori rugby under its umbrella, I think. From memory the 1904 British team lost an unofficial game to a Bay of Plenty Maori team…
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Asher
        
        Malcolm Mulholland’s book may be a good place to start.
        
        https://www.amazon.com/Beneath-Maori-Moon-Illustrated-History/dp/1869693051
        
        I always thought the 1937 Springboks didn’t play the NZ Maori team due to the problems with the fixture in 1921 and the infamous leaked telegram by a South African journalist
        
        …but Mulholland’s book details that in 1936 one NZ Maori player (accidentally?) killed another while they were staying in a hotel.
        
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        July 25, 2017 1:17pm
      - Longknives
        
        “Also, Wikipedia has no article on Maori rugby generally, just on the Maori All Blacks. Added to the to do list.”
        
        Mikey- Make sure you make mention about that time ‘proud’ Maori Rugby selected Christian Cullen in their team.
        Not a freaking drop of Maori blood in him..
        
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        July 25, 2017 1:43pm
      - Jack5
        
        Whoops! My mistake. Wikipedia does say:
        
        He was a member of the University Rugby Club in Auckland and captain of the Auckland Māori Rugby team. He also played in the Prince of Wales Cup for the Māori All Blacks trials.
        
        I stopped reading at the end of the line. Apologies to all except to milkenmild, who bid us all farewell recently but couldn’t stay away. Milky indicates he contributes to Wikipedia. I will now be much more careful quoting from it.
        
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        July 25, 2017 1:53pm
      - Jack5
        
        Kimbo, you are frequently needling us about adverbs.
        
        You write “Peters was a three-quarter.” Do you think that should be “three-quarters”? Or is there a special exemption for rugby?
        
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        July 25, 2017 2:00pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Jack5
        
        No, Peters was a (wing) three-quarter, who played in the three quarters. Just as Dave Loveridge was a (scrum) half who played in the halves, or Richie McCaw was a loose forward who played in the loose forwards, or Bryan Williams was a back who played in the backs.
        
        Now, if you can work on, “Sid Going was one of our best players and worst half backs” ;).
        
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        July 25, 2017 2:17pm
      - Jack5
        
        Kimbo (12.15), you have passed today’s mental arithmetic test. Congratulations, and a happy stamp for your homework. 😎
        
        Here’s what the New Fowler’s Third Edition, edited by R.W. Burchfield says:
        
        The noun expressing a fraction is three-quarters, (usu. hyphened). In a rugby football team a three-quarter is one of two, three, or four players (three-quarters) positioned between the half-back and the full-back. When used attrib. the form without the final -s is obligatory: the three-quarter line in rugby football, three-quarter length coat, etc.), three-quarter face (in photography, the aspect between full face and profile), etc. Cf. billiards but billiard-ball, ~table.
        
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        July 25, 2017 2:35pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Jack5
        
        From the old NZ rugby song, “On the Ball”:
        
        “On the ball, on the ball, on the ball!”
        Through scrum and three-quarters and all,
        In all kinds of weather we keep on the leather
        And shout as we go “On the ball!”
        
        http://www.folksong.org.nz/ontheball/index.html
        
        See you at Pub Quiz night, along with MrTips 😉
        
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        July 25, 2017 2:42pm
- Paulus
  
  Trump’s mother was from the Scottish Isles so they are related !
  
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  July 25, 2017 1:51pm
  - KevOB
    
    This is getting worse. The top of Scotland could all be interbred following the crossing family lines. 1/8 of me (part not stated) came from there. I’ve Innes in me line too. (But Winston..?)
    
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    July 25, 2017 4:21pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      The top of Scotland could all be interbred
      
      It is correctly termed pure breeding.
      
      When you’ve got the best sets of genes why bring in other stuff?
      
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      July 25, 2017 5:54pm
      - KevOB
        
        Having done extensive family history its proved very difficult sorting out the Highland Scots. One family has stayed in its small village for 300 years. They seem to bred in something like a circle: a Cormack with Sutherland, Sutherland with Cormack, Innes with Cormack, Innes with Sutherland etc, etc, etc. They choose the same few names to enhance the familiar differences. Hardy Viking remnants.
        
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        July 25, 2017 7:36pm
      - VicParking
        
        Correct I find my extra finger and club foot turn the guys on.
        
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        July 25, 2017 8:21pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Kev OB
        
        So much easier(?) when your mummy’s & daddy’s lines come from the same island and have the same surname!!!
        
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        July 25, 2017 8:22pm
Jack5

Local councils and other local bodies are smiling in anticipation of the Government’s new Crown Infrastructure Partners, which will provide funds for local work.

They like it (as the link below shows) because it will put debt on the books of the new organisation rather than on the books of the local council. For a local councillor, I guess there’s plenty to smile about in the idea. Lobbying, media pressure, voting threats and so on may open a new route to getting capital from a State organisation.

Local council debt is usually ultimately backed by the lender’s last resort in a default of being able to collect from the borrowing council’s ratepayers, via a special rate.

If central government becomes the ultimate guarantor or borrowing under the new scheme that means taxpayers will guarantee borrowing for local council work. We will back projects from Kaitaia to Stewart Island.

Unless of course Crown Infrastructure Partners is given the power to rate a local council to recover a debt. But would they take the political risk?

Local bodies as a group have raised debt centrally, but it doesn’t seem to have worked sufficiently. Apart from Auckland, I’m not aware of a lot of other direct local body loans to the market. They are usually taken up by institutions such as banks.

Rather than the State taking the Santa Claus role, it would be nice to see some sort of bigger market developing in local bonds, perhaps with some independent agency in the background with power to rate ratepayers in a default.

This would keep local eyes on council’s borrowing. They are needed. Imagine if there had been central government loans for the West Coast projects contracted through an Auckland cake shop owner. (These contracts have now been scrapped.)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/better-business/95034969/debt-carrier-could-drive-hamiltons-growth
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July 25, 2017 12:04pm
- KevOB
  
  The new scheme with Crown Infrastructure Partners has been in the making for months if not a great deal longer. There has already been a contestable funding round with the councils for the larger development requirements and that has been whittled down to 6 which can be concentrated on. The aim is to unlock projects denied the light of day because of the infrastructure required. Hamilton has had a project in view for 30 years. It requires a $100 million bridge for another city size development over the river.
  I heard a Minister say that the councils who were too small for this large scheme would have other help extended.
  A sensible response to making development possible.
  
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  July 25, 2017 7:44pm
  - Jack5
    
    This is from the Radio NZ report about Crown Infrastructure Partners (formerly Crown Fibre Holdings):
    
    It’s a concept that keeps the increased borrowings for infrastructure, off the books of local bodies such as the Auckland Council, which is nearing the end of its ability to comfortably take on more debt.
    
    Bob Dey in his Property Report says:
    
    Auckland Council has been tiptoeing just below its debt:revenue ratio limit of 265%, and put the concept to the Government of a special purpose vehicle to fund infrastructure in a way that recognises those debt constraints.
    
    Cities are growing too fast to finance their own infrastructure and immigration-happy National, which is driving the population growth, is stepping in to help councils.
    
    If there were an economic case surely local bodies could raise the finance on the markets. The National Coalition is so hooked up in the immigration Ponzi scheme it sees the only way out as pushing ahead. “Full steam ahead and ignore the population torpedoes.”
    
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    July 25, 2017 9:28pm
    - KevOB
      
      My inner professional accountant says the local authorities cannot take on any more debt without too much risk. The government has very properly decided to carry that risk for a handful of massive housing developments. Good for all.
      
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      July 26, 2017 8:44am
RF

It’s a good indication that the left is very worried when you have the standards (Labour) left wing author Micky Savage firing off more than his usual
anti right tripe.

Poor fella must be desperate.

Maybe Labours internal polling is picking up the damage from Crooked Metiria.

When she goes so does Labours dreams. Imagine having to work with this crook.
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July 25, 2017 12:53pm
- Rich Prick
  
  It must suck having to hitch your wagon to a benefit fraudster to have any chance of winning. I wonder what the average “in work” Labour supporter thinks of that?
  
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  July 25, 2017 1:29pm
  - GoVege
    
    I’d be surprised if the Greens got 5% this time.
    Does anybody actually know what they stand for?
    
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    July 25, 2017 4:03pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      + More money for bludgers.
      + No responsibility for bludgers.
      + Benefit fraud.
      + More tax from everyone else to pay for the above.
      + Contempt for taxpayers.
      + Polar bears, meh, not so much.
      
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      July 25, 2017 4:30pm
- Longknives
  
  I was having a quiet beer at the Pub Quiz last night with a couple of National voters and a couple of Labour voters (‘Old School’ Labour working-class kinda Guys)- The Labour guys were both horrified that Team Red has done nothing to denounce this blatant Criminal Behaviour from the smirking Greens Leader. (Funnily enough it wasn’t the Fraud that pisses them off but her smug, “almost gloating” attitude about it)
  One of them said he isn’t going to vote unless Labour cut the Greens- I think there will be lots more around New Zealand thinking that..
  I honestly think Labour need to cut the Greens and cut them fast or they are going to drop a shitload more voters come Election Day.
  
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  July 25, 2017 1:40pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Don’t forget, Labour only has to shed a few percent and they get no list seats, assuming they hold their current electroate seats. If that were to happen, I imagine Andy’s anger will be off the scale.
    
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    July 25, 2017 1:48pm
    - KevOB
      
      ☑️☑️
      
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      July 25, 2017 4:22pm
Rodney Randall

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/24/corbyn-migration-destroy-workers/

“Asked about his party’s attitude to EU immigration after Brexit, Corbyn claimed Labour would put a stop to the “wholesale importation of low-paid workers from central Europe,” admitting that this “destroys conditions” for British workers in industries like construction.

In the interview, Corbyn said he would put a stop to the practice of agencies advertising jobs in central Europe, and force them to “advertise in the locality first” – an approach barred by Brussels rules which deem this a form of discrimination.”

Just say whatever you need to get the votes?
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July 25, 2017 12:54pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Corbyn is careful to mention only “central Europe”.
  
  He doesn’t say too many Mohammedans or Negroes are the problem.
  
  But those demographics are way worse than “central Europe” blood stock.
  
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  July 25, 2017 1:32pm
srylands

Oral Questions – 25 July 2017
1. Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his statements on the Todd Barclay matter; if so, how?
2. ANDREW LITTLE to the Prime Minister: Does he have confidence that his housing and social Ministers have homelessness under control, given the number of grants for emergency housing has almost hit 30,000 in nine months, when only 1,400 were expected for the whole year?
3. ANDREW BAYLY to the Minister of Finance: How is the Government helping councils increase housing supply?
4. MARAMA FOX to the Minister of Transport: Will he be committing any more resources to State Highway 35 over and above what was announced yesterday that would enable other road upgrades, and not just toilets and rest stops?
5. GRANT ROBERTSON to the Minister of Finance: Why is it a higher priority for him to cut taxes for members of Parliament than it is to invest more money than is in Budget 2017 into health, housing, or education, or to immediately restart contributions to the New Zealand Super Fund?
6. JONATHAN YOUNG to the Minister for Social Development: What recent reports has she received regarding household incomes?
7. SUE MORONEY to the Minister of Transport: Does he stand by his decision not to order an inquiry into the treatment of Ministry of Transport whistleblowers who were made redundant in a restructuring influenced by convicted fraudster Joanne Harrison, when I asked him to do so on March 16, 2017?
8. MAUREEN PUGH to the Minister of Science and Innovation: What recent announcements has he made about the Government’s Regional Research Institutes initiative?
9. METIRIA TUREI to the Minister for Social Development: Does she believe that the Ministry of Social Development has a responsibility to treat unemployed people, sole parents, and people with disabilities with respect and dignity, and ensure every person on a benefit has all the support they are entitled to?
10. CHRIS HIPKINS to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all of the statements that he has made, or have been made on his behalf, in this House regarding the Todd Barclay case?
11. Hon JO GOODHEW to the Minister of Civil Defence: What reports has he received on the impact of severe weather conditions across parts of Otago and Canterbury?
12. FLETCHER TABUTEAU to the Prime Minister: Does he have confidence in the Minister of Finance and the Minister for Economic Development; if so, how?
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July 25, 2017 1:55pm
- Rich Prick
  
  9. METIRIA TUREI to the Minister for Social Development: Oh fuck, can I change my question?
  
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  July 25, 2017 2:06pm
  - Prince
    
    Qu 5. Seriously ? Why is Robertson in Parliament at all ? The guy is simply incompetent.
    
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    July 25, 2017 2:10pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    The arrogance of the fraudster Turei knows no bounds. She stopped just short of endorsing stealing from the taxpayer in order to improve the lot of beneficiaries finding it tough.
    Meanwhile the attacks on the PM over the long-dead Todd Barclay affair continue.
    
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    July 25, 2017 3:02pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Captain, I was disappointed when she asked Minister Tolley about beneficiaries getting an amnesty who go to welfare and declare their fraud that Tolley was so soft on her. She replied about beneficiaries not showing up for an appointment. She did not talk about women on the DPB lying about not knowing the father and collecting under the table from the father for not naming him.
      
      I do not know if the amnesty she was asking for was that they would not be prosecuted or that they would not even half to pay the money back.
      
      I can understand a woman on the DPB cleaning a few houses for cash. I can also understand when a couple break up maybe because of money problems that they do not immediately report to welfare if they are trying to reconcile due to a long stand down period.
      
      It certainly appears that Turei committed fraud on a large scale. She has raised this publicly so she should have no right to privacy. The claim that her child would go hungry is not credible.
      
      I am still drafting a letter to the police as I have been advised to do. I will run it past a lawyer or a former lawyer I know.
      
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      July 25, 2017 3:37pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        I also thought that Tolley was remarkably soft on her.
        Just proves that the Nats don’t know how to play dirty.
        
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        July 25, 2017 3:42pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Just proves that the Nats don’t know how to play dirty.
        
        Subtle? Yes. Dirty? No. They don’t need to. Most Kiwis can’t stand her. Like David Cunliffe in 2014, the National strategy seems not to attack, but to let ’em speak…and the more the voters see and hear, the more they will dislike.
        
        Don’t give ’em an excuse to run the “beneficiary bashing Tories” line.
        
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        July 25, 2017 3:45pm
      - sam green
        
        “Just proves that the Nats don’t know how to play dirty.”
        
        But the Nat enablers do ….
        
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        July 25, 2017 4:01pm
      - GoVege
        
        Don’t waste your time and public resources Chuck.
        Collecting a bit of rent from flatmates and not declaring it for a couple of years is hardly committing “fraud on a large scale”.
        I know an old biddy who rented out a flat attached to her house at max rent for decades, all undeclared, and even had the tenants paying the power bill for both dwellings.
        I doubt if this is uncommon.
        That’s way worse than a mum on a benny with a young child and trying to study law, pocketing a few bucks extra income.
        
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        July 25, 2017 4:12pm
      - GoVege
        
        Cap’n: thats coz Anne Tolley is a principled woman who cares more about the lives of Kiwi kids than scoring political points.
        
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        July 25, 2017 4:47pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Give her a longer rope – about two months long
      
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      July 25, 2017 5:33pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      She has no moral standards, still blaming everyone and everything except herself.
      I didn’t steal it, I took it eh hoa
      
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      July 25, 2017 5:38pm
cmm

Election hoardings popping up like mushrooms here in Chc.

As expected, Andy and Jacinda are not on the Labour hoardings. They’re a liability.
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July 25, 2017 2:05pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Just wait ’till you cop an eyeful of the benefit fraudster sneering at you. Talk about adding an exclamation mark to her contempt for us taxpayers.
  
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  July 25, 2017 3:31pm
  - RF
    
    I suspect her hoardings will not last long in their original state.
    
    The greens did not hesitate to deface National hoardings last time so pay back would be appropriate.
    
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    July 25, 2017 9:39pm
cmm

Double standards: https://www.stuff.co.nz/

Right now they have two article banners next to eachother:
Woman bleating about how nobody should tell her what to wear and how people should stop judging her.
Other one is a fake “apology” for telling kiwi blokes that they are not stylish (meanwhile really bagging on the men for being over-sensitive).

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/inspire-me/95076151/rules-for-wearing-a-bikini-choose-one-you-like-have-fun

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/other-spaces/95071516/alright-kiwi-blokes-im-sorry-i-crossed-a-line

Women: go for it, men: you’re sacks of shit that are responsible for all the evil in the world.
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July 25, 2017 2:32pm
- Longknives
  
  Ha Ha Cmm- I particularly enjoyed the angry feminist’s attack on Kiwi Blokes!
  Particularly-“Let’s face it, while you may still look in the mirror and see the bronzed Adonis you were when you were twenty,..”
  Coming from a Femnazi who is literally ‘Rough as Guts’ and looks like the bath is a complete stranger! Clearly her mother never taught her about people who live in Glass Houses…
  
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  July 25, 2017 2:45pm
  - sam green
    
    pooo – she smells ……
    
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    July 25, 2017 3:58pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      Ever been to a Third Way Feminist gathering? Let’s say they’re not for the olfactorily sensitive.
      
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      July 25, 2017 11:15pm
      - sam green
        
        I take it you have.
        
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        July 26, 2017 12:19pm
- Peter
  
  Men shouldn’t pay them attention. That’s what they so obviously crave.
  
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  July 25, 2017 5:18pm
- Gabby
  
  Cmmie bokkie, stay away fdom the laydee payges or you’ll ten into a gellee man, man. Chew some biltong and you’ll feel better.
  
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  July 25, 2017 6:58pm
Jack5

It’s interesting that the Stephieboy troll team has not re-appeared yet. They received a fifth-strike, one-month suspension on 13 June.

Maybe they’re still on some old Stephiestani calendar.
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July 25, 2017 2:47pm
- RalphT
  
  Surely you’re not missing them? Aren’t you enjoying the peace and quiet?
  
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  July 25, 2017 4:12pm
stigie

This is what Paulus said at 1.28pm today……..

“No, there will be concerted go at Barclay instead.
Fat Frog will get off scot free.”

And that’s exactly what happened, the bitch got off scot free and had the check to abuse the good people at WINZ.
Im outraged !~
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July 25, 2017 3:49pm
Happychappy

I give National MP’s 100% for their behaviour today when the Green Leader questioned Ann Tolley about Welfare Payments this fraud thinks she van sway opinion by trying to make the Government look heartless but never achieved what she obviously set out to do. Let’s hope this fraud and her Party pay the consequences for there arrogance at the up coming election. Two ticks for National to stop these frauds from becoming our worst nightmare.
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July 25, 2017 4:07pm
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  July 25, 2017 4:25pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    KevOB, what are the chances of you sharing the ‘two blue ticks’ I am not that comp literate to work it out
    
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    July 25, 2017 6:09pm
    - KevOB
      
      It took me a little bit of figuring out too.
      Wordpress has emoji’s enabled so they are easy to use (sparingly).
      Get them here:
      http://getemoji.com/
      
      Just highlight the emoji, copy (ctlr C), & paste into the text (ctlr V).
      
      Text can be styled too by using HTML in line.
      
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      July 25, 2017 8:07pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Thanks KevOB but that’s even harder for me than finding the soy sauce at the back of the pantry when it’s supposed to be staring me in the face.
        
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        July 25, 2017 8:16pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        To make it blue??
        Oh Captain, the soy is in the fridge – fuck knows why, but that’s where I find it
        
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        July 26, 2017 6:25pm
  - Gabby
    
    Two pricks, Kev. Two more for Stoive.
    
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    July 25, 2017 10:10pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Totally agree but the Nats are being very soft on the toad.
  I’m hoping like Hell that Paula is squeaky-clean.
  
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  July 25, 2017 4:47pm
  - Happychappy
    
    CM : Public opinion is obviously going against her or why else would she be trying to sway public opinion by attacking Ann Tolley and trying to give beneficiaries a amnesty and more money is not going to help the Greens or Labour. between Turei and Robertson I wouldn’t know who has a bigger opinion of themselves. Two Ticks Blue.
    
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    July 25, 2017 5:21pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I thought it was very smart politics from Tolley. Feed Turei rope, inch by inch, and she’ll hang herself.
    
    National will be wanting to talk about their policies, and their record. By all means let Turei rant and rave, but rise above it all as Tolley did today. People are very quickly going to tire of Turei’s gloating, and I’m looking forward to the next round of polls.
    
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    July 25, 2017 6:51pm
sooty

Where do the Greens sit if their support falls away.
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July 25, 2017 5:21pm
- holysheet
  
  Material would have no problem. With her fat arse, she can sit anywhere.
  
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  July 25, 2017 5:26pm
- Happychappy
  
  CM : Public opinion is obviously going against her or why else would she be trying to sway public opinion by attacking Ann Tolley and trying to give beneficiaries a amnesty and more money is not going to help the Greens or Labour. between Turei and Robertson I wouldn’t know who has a bigger opinion of themselves. Two Ticks Blue.
  
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  July 25, 2017 5:31pm
- Happychappy
  
  sooty : In shit street without a paddle. Turei has poured welfare effluent all over the clean Green image.
  
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  July 25, 2017 5:40pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    She’s doubled down on the taxpayer. She refuses to dob in another benefit fraudster. Imagine if she was minister, there’d be an ATM, stocked by the rest of us, in every WINZ office with the cash box wide open for every bludger to just help themselves.
    
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    July 25, 2017 6:17pm
Monique Watson

Throw-down in the Middle East. Conflict with Jordan escalates:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40700467
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July 25, 2017 5:24pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  So Monique, what happened to your prediction of a couple of days ago that NK was dropping one on Hawaii?
  The Jordan thing will be a minor diversion.
  
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  July 25, 2017 5:49pm
Fletch

Turei in the headlines again –

Green MP Metiria Turei says she won’t dob in welfare cheats who have confessed to her

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11894932
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July 25, 2017 6:18pm
- dad4justice
  
  The greens are a disgrace to everybody with a braincell in New Zealand and that horrible brown wildebeest with glasses should be fed to the lions at Orana Park before the election as a deterrent to potential WINZ benefit fraudsters!
  
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  July 25, 2017 6:41pm
  - stigie
    
    At least shoot her with ya pop gun before throwing her to the lions Dad..?
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:14pm
- Sublime
  
  MT and supporters just don’t get it, do they?
  
  Joe and Jane public are not getting up her for doing what she did to feed her child. They’re getting up her for the way it was handled … confessing some 20-odd years later at a politically convenient time.
  
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  July 25, 2017 7:18pm
Monique Watson

I’m more often right than wrong. That’s all that counts. Just ask any seasoned politician.
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July 25, 2017 6:29pm
Odakyu-sen

Just to change the subject, here’s sushi for cats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGcYabz3hYg
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July 25, 2017 6:36pm
Happychappy

I would like to know why the media, Andrew Little and anyone else that want to have a dig about Todd
Barclay ripping the Tax Payer off for being absent for 31 days well Winston Peters has been absent for the same amount of time with also 14 of those days being when Parliament was in recess for the school holidays. Who was the worst of the two is quite simple Winston Peters is a senior MP who is supposed to set a example to junior MP’s instead of ripping off the tax payer by campaigning instead of attending Parliament to honor the commitment of being a MP and Leader of his Party, so by not being there he has not set the standard for others to be judged on. So all you hypocrites out there wanting to put Todd’s head on a platter need to grow some balls and exact the same on Winston Peters.
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July 25, 2017 7:08pm
- Gabby
  
  Gutless Bingles didn’t have anything to say about Toddger in the house. What a crappy chappy. Come on Bingles, guessing guss.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:19pm
Sublime

From earlier today (source: https://twitter.com/avancenz/status/889671244341141504): Do you think if the Kiwi, you know, really tried, it could fly? Boris Johnson to Conservation Minister Maggie Barry

Lol!
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July 25, 2017 7:15pm
- Brigitte
  
  He’s been watching too many VR Samsung ads methinks!
  
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  July 25, 2017 7:33pm
  - Sublime
    
    Hah! I had forgotten about that. It was a cool ad 🙂
    
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    July 25, 2017 7:41pm
- Gabby
  
  Oh Blobby Jobby, you card you.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:19pm
chris

I haven’t listened to the audio, but Barry Soper rips into Metiria Turei here in the article text http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11894932
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July 25, 2017 7:33pm
- RF
  
  Must be bad if Barry has a go at Crooked Metiria. After the interview her followers hissed at him.
  
  FFS are they geese.
  
  When people like Barry Soper turn on Crooked Metiria you know her doomsday clock is ticking.
  
  What a bitch.
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:47pm
  - sooty
    
    She’s on the way out. How many votes will it cost and will Labour move away from the corpse!
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:52pm
Sublime

http://www.betootaadvocate.com/headlines/kiwi-version-ninja-warrior-include-eight-storey-scaffolding-course/

Kiwi Version Of Ninja Warrior To Include Eight-Storey Scaffolding Course

The New Zealand version of Ninja Warrior is set to be a ratings hit across both the South Island, North Island and South Brisbane regions, as the new variation of the internationally renowned reality TV show adds their own Kiwi-flavour to their obstacle courses.

NZ Ninja Warrior (sometimes abbreviated as NZNW) is set to be a fan favourite on channel TV3, as the sports entertainment competition spin-off looks set to challenge hundreds of contestants in rugby drills as well as high-rise scaffolding.

Set to be hosted by Kiwi popstar Lorde and former All Blacks captain, Tana Umaga – the program will also include obstacles based on pub security and motorcycle jacket stitching.

“Contestants will have to prove themselves able to throw drunk Australians out of a pub gaming room, as well as recite every single name in Richie McCaw’s extended family” said one producer.

“The eight storey scaffolding course will be by far the most high-octane. Do our contestants have what it takes to have the top floor ready for a slab within the time limit?”

“Only time will tell”

It is believed that while working on the scaffolding obstacle course contestants will be required to carry a very loud bose speaker playing Kiwi reggae, while also making heaps of in-jokes that other tradesmen can’t understand.

Brilliant. Just brilliant … almost too good to be true 😉
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July 25, 2017 7:46pm
Hugh Pavletich

HOW WOULD RYANAIRS CEO MICHAEL O’LEARY DEAL WITH POLITICIANS AND BUREAUCRATS OVER HOUSING ISSUES ?

… How markets are supposed to function … for example the budge airline industry …

Ryanair fares set to fall further as it locks in fuel savings … UK Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/07/24/ryanair-fares-set-fall-locks-fuel-savings/

Ryanair has pledged to cut fares further after it locked in lower prices for its fuel needs for the next two years.

The low-cost carrier said its fuel bill dropped in the past three months even though passenger numbers rose 12pc to 35m. It has also managed to secure further savings that it will pass on to customers.

Chief executive Michael O’Leary said 90pc of its fuel requirements were hedged next year at $49 per barrel and that it had taken advantage of recent price dips to increase its hedging level in the first half of 2019 to 45pc at $48 per barrel, giving it firepower to charge less for its flights. Brent crude, the European benchmark, is currently trading around $48.18 a barrel.

… In contrast… the Sydney housing fiasco …

Only one Sydney suburb has a median house price below $500k – MacroBusiness

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/07/one-sydney-suburb-median-house-price-500k/

… concluding …

… I am constantly amazed that young Sydneysiders aren’t rioting in the streets with pitchforks against the deliberate government policies that have helped cause this mess and robbed them of a housing future. … read more via hyperlink above …

Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) … Lateline – 19/07/2017: The suburbs where homeowners could feel first impact of potential housing downturn

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2016/s4704698.htm

How would Ryanair’s CEO Michael O’Leary deal with the New South Wales / Sydney politicians and bureaucrats ? …

… Do watch O’Leary’s entertaining ‘innovation’ speech in Brussels (of all places) …

Michael O Leary (Ryanair) CEO – about EU bureaucracy on Vimeo

https://vimeo.com/163988038
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July 25, 2017 7:51pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Fuck Hugh, have you been asleep all day or are you in Europe trying to find out more crap to bleat about?
  Either way, please give us a break?
  
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  July 25, 2017 8:12pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    … Isn’t it remarkable how so much is becoming increasingly affordable and accessible … other than housing because of political and bureaucratic meddling ? …
    
    … FREIGHT TRANSPORT / CONTAINERIZATION …
    
    How Containerization Shaped the Modern World – YouTube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7IoT_WSRA
    
    Containerization: The Most Influential Invention That You’ve Never Heard Of – YouTube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ZskaqBshs
    
    … AIR TRAVEL …
    
    Why Planes Don’t Fly Faster … Wendover Productions
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1QEj09Pe6k
    
    How Budget Airlines Work … Wendover Productions
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=069y1MpOkQY
    
    … CRUISING …
    
    Discount Cruises, Last Minute Cruises, Cruise, Cruise Line, Cruise Vacation
    
    http://www.vacationstogo.com/
    
    … AND … AFFORDABLE HOUSING … WHY NOT EVERYWHERE ? …
    
    We know how to produce affordable housing … example …
    
    Pulte Homes … Phoenix … Arizona
    
    https://pulte.com/homes/arizona/phoenix/florence/parkside-at-anthem-at-merrill-ranch-7739#CommunityDetailsView
    
    … and check out other affordable or near affordable North American markets …
    
    2017 13th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey
    
    http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf
    
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    July 25, 2017 8:57pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      The idiot’s not giving us a break, is he?
      
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      July 25, 2017 9:03pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Housing is the number one issue going in to the election … just 2 months away now.
        
        NZ Government too late the hero on housing supply -Leith van Onselen … MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/07/nz-government-late-hero-housing-supply/
        
        By Leith van Onselen
        
        Back in 2007, then National opposition leader, John Key, lamented the woeful housing affordability in New Zealand (Auckland in particular), and promised to undertake a wide range of supply-side reforms if elected into government. John Key was elected as Prime Minister in November 2008 and the National Government has ruled ever since. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        A housing infrastructure company … David Farrar … Kiwiblog
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/a_housing_infrastructure_company.html
        
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        July 25, 2017 9:19pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        No GD is complete without a full diaper being hurled from a Ford Falcon towards a litter bin. And missing.
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:11pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/07/macro-afternoon-239/#comment-2923208
        
        UPDATE … HOW WOULD RYANAIRS CEO MICHAEL O’LEARY DEAL WITH POLITICIANS AND BUREAUCRATS OVER HOUSING ISSUES ?
        Being the reticent type I am and in an endeavour not to (unduely) upset my comrade Tories, I thought I would post the above (with associated material) later last night … after Kiwiblogs Capt Mainwaring had been put to bed back at the Resthome.
        
        How wrong I was … as his ‘eruption’ on the above Kiwiblog thread illustrates. I understand via my sources, that there was a hell of a mess to clean up back at the Resthome.
        
        Do make a point of checking out the follow-up material on the above threads … particularly this cracker short video …
        
        How Budget Airlines Work … Wendover Productions
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=069y1MpOkQY
        
        Michael O’Leary (aged 56) is one of the truly outstanding commercial entrepreneurs / operators of our age …
        
        Michael O’Leary (businessman) – Wikipedia
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O%27Leary_(businessman)
        
        Very recent Irish Times article ….
        
        Michael O’Leary: Flying high in the battle for Europe’s skies … The Irish Times
        
        http://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/michael-o-leary-flying-high-in-the-battle-for-europe-s-skies-1.3164390
        
        … commencing …
        
        Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary: “We are growing from 130 million passengers to 200 million passengers a year. Even if we wanted to put up prices we can’t.” …
        
        He holds Peter Sutherland, the Irishman who was European commissioner for competition between 1985 and 1989, responsible for creating the air travel regime that boosted competition and made flying cheaper for everyone.
        
        “Peter Sutherland drove all of this in the face of massive opposition from the German and French flag carriers, who did everything in their power to stop him. It’s very much an Irish success story in Europe,” he says.
        
        O’Leary believes the benefits to Ireland speak for themselves. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        Why can’t we have the same with housing ?
        
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        July 26, 2017 9:01am
Viking2

A HOUSING CRISIS MIRROR
The ‘housing crisis’ is similar everywhere, it seems (except perhaps in American rust-belt towns).

http://www.interest.co.nz/news/88960/review-things-you-need-know-you-go-home-tuesday-no-rate-changes-kiwisaver-comparatives
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July 25, 2017 8:08pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Viking … wrong … check out the Demographia Survey schedules at http://www.PerformanceUrbanplanning.org .
  
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  July 25, 2017 9:40pm
nasska

Eating bacon is good for your popularity…….it means you are not Muslim.
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July 25, 2017 8:27pm
Maggy Wassilieff

High IQ or hard work?
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jul/25/no-such-thing-as-a-gifted-child-einstein-iq

(The Chinese know the answer)
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July 25, 2017 9:12pm
- nasska
  
  Generally I’d go along with that Maggy but there is a corollary. If you’re too thick to understand the basics (ie low native IQ) you’re less likely to consider the effort worthwhile.
  
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  July 25, 2017 9:23pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes, we are not talking about folks with inherent intellectual disabilities..
    but just everyday bods who can function independently.
    Get someone enthused in a topic/skill… and its never clear who will ascend the peaks and who will stroll around the foothills.
    
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    July 25, 2017 9:33pm
    - nasska
      
      Have you ever come across students who can do above average in say, English, but who suffer a mental short circuit when attempting maths or science Maggy?
      
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      July 25, 2017 9:37pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I would say they have had very bad teaching.
        
        I have encountered quite a few folks who disliked science when it was just copying stuff from books/boards… but have got enthused when they were undertaking fieldwork/experiments, etc.
        
        I’m one who didn’t really twig to Maths for my first 3 years at secondary school, but got a very old lady teacher in my 6th form year… and I found it was pretty easy… but I began to lose the plot again in the 7th form.
        At uni, my 1st yr maths lecturers seemed to be useless, but I got hold of copies of their extramural lesson notes (Massey) and I could understand things a lot better.
        
        Seems to me that how you put something across is critical for anyone’s learning.
        
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        July 25, 2017 10:16pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        Science is so logical and I loved it at school, but only once I cracked the codes. In chemistry it’s all about the Periodic Table. Any equation requires balancing the table. H2O is for a reason, it takes two +1H’s to join with one -2O. Same with physics, I never bothered learning a physics formula because the formula always was in the unit of the answer. If an object travels 6m in 2 seconds, what was its velocity. Velocity is measure in m/s so the formula is distance/time.
        
        Now I’m a lawyer. Go figure. But the same applies. If I want a certain result, that’s my starting point and I work backward with evidence and argument to achieve it. My “arts” based opponents start on the basis of “let’s explore this and see where it takes us”. They loose a lot of cases.
        
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        July 25, 2017 10:42pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @RP
        
        They loose a lot of cases.
        Ha,ha,ha.
        
        I’ll keep you in mind when I next need a lawyer.
        
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        July 25, 2017 10:48pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        Just sat quietly for a bit, and realised that I’d love to impart some of my old passions (good Lord now I’m remembering quadratic equations – which serve no good earthly purpose).
        
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        July 25, 2017 10:56pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        I’ll grant you that Maggy, Autocorrect is our true ~~enema~~ enemy. 🙂
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:28pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        In defence of teaching quadratic equations
        
        https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmhansrd/vo030626/debtext/30626-21.htm
        
        https://plus.maths.org/content/101-uses-quadratic-equation-part-ii
        
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        July 25, 2017 11:37pm
RF

I see a “vile” Aussie has been fined $800.00 for urinating on a females leg in a bar.

Did he take lessons from our former Blues / AB, Mils Muliaina.

Not a class act…..
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July 25, 2017 9:24pm
Rich Prick

Let’s take this out for a ride and see what happens.

Dear Metiria, I’m a 22 year old farm labourer. I’ve managed to impregnate 6 chicks who are all on the DPB with my kids. I have a new chick now and she’s dropped number 7. I lost my job and I am on the dole. IRD is after me for my liable parent contributions for the first 6. My new one is “hungry” and is a “little baby”, apparently it helps to say that. So I’ve created 20 personas who are all claiming the dole to pay for it all. Is that OK. Look forward to you clearing that up fo me, cheers Vote Greens.

Yours – Codie Ford Zepher
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July 25, 2017 10:06pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  @RP
  
  Maaaate,
  u don’t count.
  
  Its not about u… coz u R a male an’ u don’t count.
  
  Its the sole mums with hungry babes that count.
  so just p.o.
  
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  July 25, 2017 10:39pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Chur bro, can I just vote for the man Green bro then? Not the girl one?
    
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    July 25, 2017 10:48pm
  - Peter
    
    Yeah bro
    
    Got ‘nother little precious on the way. Chur! Government need to pay for a bigger house for me soon, man.
    
    Vote Green
    
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    July 26, 2017 4:53am
Manolo

The GOP is a mess:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article163424468.html
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July 26, 2017 6:52am
Morrissey

A message to the sheep of Ohariu and Epsom

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95119031/english-calls-for-tactical-voting-in-epsom-ohariu-to-elect-support-party-leaders

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_W19ZkFqGT-M/SWvN9B6coBI/AAAAAAAAAp0/5vZxk8xGxUk/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Ram+harness+(SM).jpg
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July 26, 2017 11:09am
Manolo

Coming to NZ universities soon:
https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/34858/

The university is in the process of hiring an “Interpersonal Violence Clinician and Men’s Engagement Manager” who will work with a campus office called SHARE that’s dedicated to “survivors” of sexual harassment, assault, dating violence and stalking.
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July 26, 2017 11:51am
Morrissey

Dos muy estúpidos músicos puertorriqueños

You’ve probably heard that Spanish pop record “Despacito” over the last few weeks, by a couple of Puerto Ricans called Daddy Yankee and Luis Fonsi. It’s the most popular piece of Latin nonsense since the gorgeous “Ketchup” song of fifteen years ago—indeed it’s now the most played song ever, in any language.

Among those who have heard it are supporters of the democratic government in Venezuela. One of them had the inspired idea of doing away with the inane original lyrics and turning it into an anthem of hope and support for democratic values…

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/remix-of-despacito-from-venezuela-s-president-nicolas-maduro-1008281667983

Great idea, right? Improving a piece of dreck, recycling a piece of meretricious rubbish like “Despacito” is part of a timeless and honored tradition.

Sadly, however, the perpetrators of the original were not happy. Both Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee have unleashed blimpish and confused outbursts against the democratic Venezuelan government: “Your dictatorial regime is a joke,” claimed Fonsi—or was it Daddy Yankee?—and the other one (Fonsi? Daddy Yankee?) claimed that “the Venezuelan people are crying out for their freedom.”

So what motivated these two Puerto Rican pop-putzes to indulge in the most absurd display of bewilderment since Jared Leto and Kevin Spacey declaimed at an awards ceremony? Well, just have a look at Daddy Yankee’s murky past: he’s a self-declared “Christian”, and a Republican, and voted for John McCain in 2008. You can be sure he’s a Rump supporter as well. He hates democracy…..

http://hollowverse.com/daddy-yankee/

Luis Fonsi doesn’t seem to have any ideas about anything. I’m pretty sure all the energy of this anti-democracy rant comes from Daddy Yankee, and that Fonsi just follows his lead.

There are many thoughtful and well informed Puerto Rican commentators, such as Juan González, Ululy Martinez and Oscar Lopez Rivera. However, as is so often the case, the Puerto Ricans getting nearly all the publicity at the moment are—thanks to the political choices of the media—two unfeasibly ignorant, lazy, and stupid ones.
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July 26, 2017 12:06pm
Gruffydd

Climate Change Minister Paula Bennett is today announcing a package of changes that the Government will make to the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) to ensure it puts New Zealand in the best possible position to achieve its ambitious 2030 emissions reduction target.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1707/S00372/new-tools-to-help-meet-climate-change-targets.htm
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