General Debate 6 June 2017

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duggledog

Having a good laugh at the other thread on Labour’s beastly attacks on John Key (Sir).

My god they still don’t get it do they. Still attacking the most popular Prime Minister of at least a generation.

Then again, National don’t get it either do they. Why is Labour even polling as well as they are, considering how shit they are?

The Nats continue to give vast amounts of oxygen to these enemies via TVNZ, a well-known left wing salon, and sometime Labour Party HQ (Shane Taurima), RNZ – they’ve even given them a pay rise!

Not to mention other arts such as Film Commission which gives life to anti National stalwarts such as Taika Waititi, and many NGOs who will take with one hand and campaign against the administration with the other.

Not to mention the Maoris who will take whatever they can cajole out of the taxpayer then complain it isn’t enough.
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June 6, 2017 8:01am
- RalphT
  
  Actually I support Labour in this; the more they play the man the better. While they’re scragging JK, Bill will have the ball out to the wing and will leave the opposition trailing in his wake.
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:04am
  - KevOB
    
    Were too British to retaliate when the man is played. That requires fast, decisive, vigorous action to put the opponent back in place. No response is always taken as a win for the first actor.
    
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    June 6, 2017 8:22am
  - kowtow
    
    But he gets the ball across the line by selling out his supporters to a very fringe group.
    
    Some supporters may not renew their season tickets.
    
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    June 6, 2017 8:58am
- Happychappy
  
  So you would like to see another uproar like what happened to Alfred Ngaro, all Governments have to be seen to be fair when allocating funds to Government identities. Because you see it as a means to criticize others may not. Also 29% polling is pretty poor in my books.
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:27am
- Rich Prick
  
  It’s a reach out to their voters, they’re hoping to convince them not to vote for John Key. Worth every cent spent I reckon.
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:15am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    It’s working already RP. I won’t be voting for John Key this year, and nor will any of my many friends 😀
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:37am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      I trust you will be voting for a small-government, fiscal/personal-responsibility party…
      
      I mean, look at the other parties.
      
      That is, unless you want to crash the system.
      
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      June 6, 2017 11:22am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        The reason I won’t be voting for John Key is because he’s not standing 😎
        
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        June 6, 2017 9:18pm
- oldpark
  
  Not forgetting the pathetic mouse that roared Angry Andy Little’s threat to verbally assault the arriving American Guest Rex Tillerston to Premier House. Surely it is time that someone put a wheel clamp on flap jaw Little’s mouth. What a useless wee Little.
  
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  June 6, 2017 12:10pm
EAD

It was interesting to follow a discussion between David Garrett & Wayne Mapp on yesterday’s thread on yet another mass slaughter in the West by Islamists.

Garrett’s view could be summed up as we must do everything within our powers to put an end to this growing nightmare including closing down Mosques (similar to many Islamic countries ban on churches) whereas Mapps view was that we couldn’t because it is against Acts “philosophy” and would be “nuts”.

The debate can best be summed up with Enoch Powell’s eternal quote:

“The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.”

http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2017/05/preventable-evils.html?m=0

It was why in WWII civilians of German, Austrian, Italian and Japanese descent were rounded up and sent to interment camps in various Allied countries. It was a measure taken in full knowledge that most of these people posed no threat and was taken because the risks were deemed to be to high.

A lot has changed in the last 78 years.

Dogma drummed in through years of relentless propoaganda now holds a sizeable part of the community (so called “Liberals”) in thrall against all their natural instincts whereby now even naming the source of the threat will provoke anger and denial that the entire happy clappy multiculti edifice they’ve created is falling down.

I wonder whether so called “Right wing” MPs like Mapp deep down believe what they say above or is it because would they rather keep their heads down and not rock the boat less they get a public hounding and destroyed ala Enoch Powell was.

To the proponents of the status quo and those that say we should do nothing I’d like to ask one question – Do you seriously think that the outcome of decades of large scale immigration from high birth rate Islamic countries will end in a different situation to that of the bloody and pitiless civil wars of Lebanon and Yugoslavia? Even if you don’t think it will, is this “diversity” experiment and the so called “benefits” really worth taking such a risk for?

I’ll finish with a quote from Slobodan Milosevic from his war crimes trial:

And then when they start beheading your own people in wars to come, then you will know what this is all about.”
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June 6, 2017 8:04am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  It’s a weird state of affairs when Islam starts to prove Milosevic to be in the right.
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:11am
  - EAD
    
    Much of what we were told about the Serbs at the time was lies.
    
    It’s only been through the lens of history and we’ve seen all the other lies the MSM tells in order to fit a narrative.
    
    If your family people’s were under bloody attack, how would you respond? If Milosevic lit candles, held vigils, had rock concerts we would have seen wholesale slaughter of the Serbian people.
    
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    June 6, 2017 8:50am
    - stephieboy
      
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      EAD , getting into yet another form of Holocaust denial re the murder of those 8,000 MuslimBosnians
      
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      June 6, 2017 9:13am
      - starboard
        
        “Londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. No reason to be alarmed.” says the muslim Mayor.
        Wow. Really ?
        Just ignore the suicide bombings, the murderous muslim scum?
        Id be shitting my pants if I lived in the UK.
        
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        June 6, 2017 12:41pm
  - JasonJohns
    
    The alt-right has begun to discuss whether Muslims are really human.
    
    ‘Are Muslims part of the human race? Sorry, but the Muslim World isn’t part of it, because it works for the false god Allah, who commands them through the Quran to conquer and rule us after brainwashing them that they’re superior and we’re inferior and not fit to live except like a dog.
    
    Of course, it’s Muslims who’ve been made inferior by imbibing the Quran, which works by turning the brain cells into turd cells at jet speed. A Muslim who has spent say 20 years imbibing the Quran and the associated literature has had every living thinking cell killed and oozing with bacteria that tell him what to think and do, namely, obey Allah’s commands without question to conquer and kill the infidels, because they still have living brains that think for themselves and won’t submit like they did.
    
    I’m calling for a world war by the three-fourths of the world that isn’t Muslim to exterminate an ancient evil world domination ideology that masquerades as a religion. Hence the #2 goal after elimination of Islam as a viable world ideology is elimination of any person even remotely emulating Muhammad from the human race.
    
    Nuking Mecca
    
    Mass apostasy: Let’s cut to the chase. There’s one other indispensable chore if we want to end the threat of Islam as a world domination ideology forever: nuking Mecca. While my fellow Coloradan Tom Tancredo proposed it once and I made fun of it earlier, seriously I think I’ve proved that it’s the only answer. Mecca is the source of the infection of enemies of mankind, and to stop the infection you first have to sterilize the source, the so-called holy city of Allah where infidels are killed for trying to enter, and from whence the whole cult sprang, and the orders to spread the territory ruled by horrible Sharia emanate. The very existence of this evil city is an affront to the entire world. The 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia and its Mecca, and were allowed to waltz into the U.S. and do whatever they wanted by an Islam history ignoramus U.S. govt. that didn’t even have the sense to do ideological profiling and paid the price.’
    
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    June 6, 2017 1:06pm
    - Gabby
      
      You will no doubt have been prudent and used a vpn, you big brave soldier you.
      
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      June 6, 2017 7:49pm
- stephieboy
  
  EAD, Slobodan Milosevic would know a thing or to about shooting thousands so whether its is beheading it all amounts to the same thing .
  
  Keep us updated as to where Poland’s 2.3 million Jews and the 1.5 million that disappeared in Nazi occupied Russia .
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:11am
  - starboard
    
    “”Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari must go””
    
    Go, get out you convicted muslim kiddy fiddler.
    NZ citizens dont want your sort of filth.
    You dirty bastard, sexually molesting young girls.
    Someone should cut your hands off.
    
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    June 6, 2017 1:49pm
- CharlieBrown
  
  Mapp will be dead by the time the denial his generation of politicians has had takes root in new Zealand. National are the epitome of self serving politicians, everything they do is about staying in power, nothing is about serving new Zealand and our future.
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:41am
  - JasonJohns
    
    David Garrett’s call for the banning of all mosques and Koranic literature would only mean something if the state and police were given powers to enforce it. Cops need not only to lock the doors of official mosques but to surveil Muslims to prevent mosques opening inside private homes and disguised locations. And imams who go underground would have to be weeded out by cops with special powers. The Koran would soon be printed unofficially, so cops have to have the powers to intercept underground copies and destroy secret printing presses. Quite a lot of lessons can be learned from the struggle against Papist totalitarianism in the Elizabethan era, when Papist propaganda agents, eg priests, tried to operate underground and hold secret services.
    
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    June 6, 2017 12:19pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Well , the Papists and Jesuits did operate underground and Catholicism survived and thrived .
      
      Dolt !
      
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      June 6, 2017 12:25pm
    - CharlieBrown
      
      You can’t ban literature and thought, but you can prevent whats happening in europe shifting to New Zealand – and its quite simply locking the gates to new zealand from muslims, and not give any permanent residence to muslims already in NZ. We owe nothing to people outside our shores and we certainly cannot afford to have large communities of them form here. Where islam grows, horrible religious inspired atrocities follow.
      
      Its absolutely horrible and it leaves me with a sour taste in my mouth saying so but its just reality, Islam inspires evil more than any other religion.
      
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      June 6, 2017 9:41pm
Maggy Wassilieff

President of ALP defects to TOP and urges others to follow.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/93354441/gareth-morgans-message-on-cannabis-hits-home
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June 6, 2017 8:06am
- Happychappy
  
  If anyone will lose votes over Gareth Morgan’s cannabis promises it will be all the meatheads leaving Labour.
  
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  June 6, 2017 10:45am
- calendar girl
  
  Maggy, when I saw your first line I thought that “ALP” referred to the Australian Labour Party! http://www.alp.org.au/about
  
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  June 6, 2017 12:51pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Oh dear, that was remiss of me… leaving out the C, in the ALCP.
    
    (shows how much I give a stuff about cannabis)
    
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    June 6, 2017 3:35pm
oldpark

AT least 200 nations signed up to stop a debatable threat of so called global warming, that may or may not happen in the next hundred years. Most of it fuelled by big business and 32,000 scientists,craving employment ,or a purpose to justify their existence.Yet the same 200 nations are quite bird mouthed,on the here, and now threat,from the death cult,of Islamic fanatical Muslim terrorists,and how to solve it.
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June 6, 2017 8:08am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Too true oldpark!
  
  The two hypotheses:
  – you can control natural climatic variations through increased taxation
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  – you have to welcome a murdering, child-dismembering death cult into your society because “feelings”
  
  Both supported by Leftists. And you face societal apostaty if you don’t support both!
  
  Seriously, the last time Islam attempted an explosive expansion – the civilised world descended into a Dark Age lasting 500 years.
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:17am
- kowtow
  
  The UN is a big part of the problem.
  
  National govts surrender their sovereignty to this body and what do we in New Zealand get in return ?
  
  Extra taxes for the climate scam and Syrian Muslim refugees (no Christians or Yazidis) cos our govt allows the UN to chose who comes to NZ.
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:23am
  - cmm
    
    Time for a UNexit.
    
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    June 6, 2017 8:30am
  - krazykiwi
    
    The UN is run by a club of despots, dictators and retired politicians who fancy an altogether larger trough to get their snouts into.
    
    Civilised countries should have no involvement with the UN
    
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    June 6, 2017 1:43pm
    - GazzaW
      
      ………hence the attraction for ‘past their use by date’ Labour politicians. They have a perfect job profile.
      
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      June 6, 2017 4:09pm
duggledog

EAD

Don’t worry, Mapp believes Trump damaged US leadership in the eyes of the world when he pulled out of the Paris scam.

Mapp’s a company man.

Probably a good bugger though in any case
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June 6, 2017 8:11am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Yes, that’s what I took out of his comments.
  
  Which roughly translated says “you have to keep in the good books of the self-destructive international cot cases”.
  
  I didn’t discern the rationale other than ….. “because feelings”.
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:19am
- EAD
  
  I respect Mapp for coming on here on occasion and engaging in debate on occasion even he toes the party line.
  
  Too often Politicians talk at us or answer patsy questions which in the big scheme of things don’t matter.
  
  Full kudos for Garrett for coming on here. I suspect that if were a sitting MP, the MSM would take his quotes and tell the public he is a “purveyor of hate” or other such nonsense despite his views chiming with 90% of this blog and probably 70% of the general public such is the state of discourse in this country.
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:39am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes, it’s definitely interesting reading the views of retired politicos.
    
    And I’m much more likely to read their comments here than open a musty tome on the life and times of the Honourable Pooh Bah.
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:11am
  - stephieboy
    
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    EAD , David Garrett is not well ( to be indulgently charitable. )
    
    Anyone would be so advocating the nuking of the Middle East as a final solution to the Muslim problem .
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:19am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      And what do you think the Muslim final solution is for non Muslims? Being killed Halal style?
      
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      June 6, 2017 11:08am
      - stephieboy
        
        Rachael Membery , so New Zealand’s 50,000 or so Muslims are out to exterminate us all ?
        
        God you are thick !
        
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        June 6, 2017 12:28pm
      - starboard
        
        You’re the thick one stiffybot. You back murderers, rapists, pedo’s et al. How can you live with yourself? What a nasty horrible speciman you are.
        
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        June 6, 2017 12:47pm
      - GazzaW
        
        It’s worse than that Starboard. There’s an entire pack of stephieboys of varying levels of intelligence and literacy ranging from low to abysmal.
        
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        June 6, 2017 4:13pm
Inandout

Everything is OK with NZ Muslims, because Garner trotted out their spokesman to spin a wondrous weave. Did Garner ask any hard questions… nah, just cosied up to the mussie.
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June 6, 2017 8:17am
- oldpark
  
  Not called Drunken Duncan for nothing.
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:21am
- kowtow
  
  Was he Ahmadiya. The media often trot these guys out as “spokesman” for the Muslim community when in fact they are a tiny minority of Muslims and are considered as heretics.
  
  A bit like this fake news.
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4573882/Fake-news-row-Muslim-protesters-TV-crews.html
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:28am
  - simpleton1
    
    Major recognition of the Ahmadiyya sect in Auckland NZ and just in opposition to them on some matters of doctrine. yeah right.
    
    Cf. Qadianism: A Critical Study, p.25, by Abul-Hasan Ali Nadwi. Published by the Muslim World League.)
    Having studied these documents and numerous others like them which shed light on the creed of the Qadianis, as well as the sources it springs from, its foundations and its dangerous aims which include undermining the correct Islamic creed and diverting Muslims away from it, the Council has unanimously passed the following resolutions:
    
    ~) the beliefs of the Qadianis, also known as the Ahmadiyya, are completely outside the fold of Islam
    
    ~) those who accept their creed are considered apostates and non-Muslims, and
    
    ~) the claim of its followers that they are Muslims is no more than an attempt to misguide and deceive.
    
    The Council of the Fiqh Academy also declares that it is incumbent upon Muslims － governments, scholars, writers, thinkers, preachers and all others － to oppose this heretical sect and its followers all over the world.
    And it is God who grants success.
    http://www.masjidattaqwa.co.nz/ahmadiyya/
    
    Very accepting and peaceful resolutions are made for Ahmadiyya in NZ.
    
    This Masjid at-Taqwa is a mosque and Islamic organisation Papatoetoe, Manukau, Auckland, New Zealand and adheres to wonderful standards of just opposing that heretical sect.
    Islam means submission, so it must be, as proved in NZ, yeah right.
    Only 30 million in the world. About 1%
    Non violent but do support many of the sharia laws. An oxymoron
    
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    June 6, 2017 8:48am
  - Inandout
    
    CNN are now into ‘candid camera’situations, and I half expected the Muslims to throw off their uniforms and yell ‘surprise, you are on CNN fake!’.
    
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    June 6, 2017 8:50am
- stephieboy
  
  Indandout , what kind of dumb and stupid questions would you have put forward ?
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:20am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Nice of you to remind us of the approx numbers of Muslims in NZ 50,000 you say, plenty of room to hide the bad apples.
    
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    June 6, 2017 3:32pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      They say 1% are infected, so that’s 500 to keep an eye on for starters.
      
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      June 6, 2017 4:06pm
Paulus

Join my amusement this moening re Ngapuhi Treaty Settlement.
It is reported that Bill English reiterated to the two warring factions that the Government will only deal with single appointed representative.
Arbitration has taken place a great cost with no avail.
So what do we hear it is English’s fault that the two parties being on the “cusp” of a settlement have been derailed by English’s comments.
What a load of media led balls.
Sonny Tau had them to rights – get him back but no – he is a convicted criminal under laws promulgated to stop amongst other things Maori taking and being convicted for hiding catches of Native Pigeons.
Slow news day – what nothing from the Washington Post or the New York Times about Donald the Terrible to the Herald.
Gould instead – Ugh
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June 6, 2017 8:19am
Captain Mainwaring

Good to see English banging heads together at Ngapuhi.
“Get your act together or kiss your settlement goodbye’.
Is the tide turning?
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June 6, 2017 8:34am
- kowtow
  
  What, so he can give more of our money away?
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:00am
- Rich Prick
  
  I do object though, to paying for a mediator to organise the squabbling bastards into agreeing to which of them gets to tickle our wallets.
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:57am
DifferentPerspective

Ostrich Parasitic Synndrome – OPS

This explains it all folks (SB, MM etc – no need to watch the vid – you are sufferers and have no chance of internalising the reasoning).

It perfectly describes the ‘denial’ behaviours of those who refuse to accept Islam as the greatest threat to our society and way of life.

The science is settled cos it’s an academic who is positing it.

Oh BTW – to those saying “that’s exactly what ISIS want” here’s some LOTR help for you
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June 6, 2017 8:40am
- stephieboy
  
  DP. at right such as you,
  
  New Name New Package ,
  
  https://antifascismnews.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/e84b4-1e_t6aug6fh-yqjrh2lslia2x.jpeg?w=474
  
  LOL
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:25am
calendar girl

So we learn now that London’s Mayor was criticising Donald Trump publicly even before the latter was elected President: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40163567 .

“Mr Khan, a Muslim, has previously criticised the president’s plans to temporarily restrict travel to the US from six mainly Muslim countries.

After Mr Trump as a presidential candidate announced his plan, Mr Khan told the BBC he hoped he would “lose badly”, adding that he was a “buffoon”.

He also called Mr Trump’s views on Islam “ignorant”, leading the New York billionaire to challenge him to an IQ test.”

It is clear that Trump quoted Khan out of context in criticising the London Mayor’s comments following the London terrorist attack. But the President’s comment has a slightly different complexion when we learn that Khan had labelled Trump a ‘buffoon’ during the Presidential election campaign.
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June 6, 2017 9:03am
- stephieboy
  
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  calander girl , I bet Trump never said the same thing about his mate Mayor Rudy Giuliani 11 09 2001 where some 3,000 lost their lives .
  
  LOL
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:28am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    So you think 9/11 was a laughing matter then Stephie?
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:47am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Keeping Stock , no nor the recent events in London . An overseas commentator on RNZ this morning was making a point about President Trump’s relentless , nasty and totally unprecedented and unjustified attacks on an the overseas Mayor Khan of London .
      
      Mayor Khan’s position was no different to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani in his opinion.
      
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      June 6, 2017 9:52am
  - calendar girl
    
    stephieboy, rather than provide your usual ‘distraction’ comment, why don’t you set out a comparable Rudy Guiliani comment (following New York’s 9/11 terrorist attack in 2001) to which you consider Donald Trump should have responded.
    
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    June 6, 2017 11:12am
    - stephieboy
      
      calender girl , Trump should begin act like a President and stop his nasty snide attacks on Mayor Khan !
      
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      June 6, 2017 12:30pm
- Gabby
  
  We learn now? What rock you been under?
  
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  June 6, 2017 7:56pm
Monique Watson

Man drinking pint while feeing attack becomes symbol of London spirit

https://www.google.com/amp/metro.co.uk/2017/06/04/man-drinking-pint-while-fleeing-terror-attack-becomes-symbol-of-london-spirit-6683304/amp/
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June 6, 2017 9:07am
- kowtow
  
  This is part of the massive media distraction campaign as well as their need to constntly feed “news”.Trying to pretend “all is well”.
  
  For all the pap they publish , I see no analysis , of the Islam threat. Where it comes from , who they are , their inspiration .
  
  As to “Londoners” resilience , I haven’t seen too many Londoners in this play . They seem to be Micks, Dagos, Brucies, Kanucks ,
  
  “Londoners” have probably moved as far as they can from the Muslim ghettoes that have taken over what was the spiritual heart of London( in the sense the media are talking of here) , the East End.
  
  Any stories on that ? Didn’t think so .
  
  The media are trying to make out there is a parallel with the Blitz. Well there isn’t. Then the enemy were non residents with no rights of abode.Thanks to successive govts’ policy on migration, human rights , equality etc Britain is fucked , fucked by its own govt and by the enemy within and there’s nothing they can do about it.
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:23am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Kowtow ,keep up your usual blah, blah of faux Brit patriotism and hope and glory jingoism .
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:32am
    - Manolo
      
      Your loyalty to Islam and your behaviour as apologist of Muslim violence is beyond the pale, stephieboy.
      
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      June 6, 2017 9:56am
- GoVege
  
  Nah, he was gonna use the empty glass as a weapon on those evil lunatics.
  
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  June 6, 2017 10:24am
- Rich Prick
  
  I couldn’t help but notice the photos of the Muslim bastards next to that article. They always have dead eyes. Perhaps that should be part of the profiling for Muslim terrorists.
  
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  June 6, 2017 10:25am
  - Manolo
    
    True. Savages with dead eyes, an indication of very low IQ.
    
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    June 6, 2017 10:31am
    - Lance
      
      Not necessarily
      Dead eyes are more an indication of a sociopath, no emotions, only robotic actions. Like an insect
      
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      June 6, 2017 12:44pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    “dead eyes”? Don’t you mean “blank expression”?
    
    Do you mean that their eyes are not shiny enough? (Maybe they need to go to spas, relax, wear cucumber slices over their eyes and a towel around their heads…)
    
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    June 6, 2017 11:27am
DifferentPerspective

It’s Ok when the Left do it

Ealing launched investigation after it looks like Unite union know how many postal votes have been counted (ie before counting should have started!).

That evil, wicked, final solution person Katie Hopkins being a bad person again helping make sure democracy isn’t abused.

Maybe the Mail should fire her for this?

Has anyone thought about firing Islam (right out of the UK) for taking a “final solution” approach to young girls at a concert?
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June 6, 2017 9:10am
- stephieboy
  
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  DP, tsk.tsk tisk… Kate Hopkins is not a bad person just a moron .
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:34am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Bait and switch again?
    
    Who’s a pretty Polly then?
    
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    June 6, 2017 7:51pm
Inandout

Once again ‘terrorists were known to Police’ – isn’t that statement almost laughable now? MI5 trot out the same. The ‘known’ become the ‘blown’ and Brits die by the dozen, run over, incinerated, stabbed. The UK security services are becoming a laughing stock.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/05/ringleader-london-bridge-terror-attack-named-khuram-butt/

Maybe a Gorka is needed in the UK government to get things moving.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-and-friends/index.html
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June 6, 2017 9:11am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “Maybe a Gorka is needed in the UK government to get things moving.”
  
  Don’t you mean “Gurkha”?
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:37am
  - Inandout
    
    Gurkhas kill silently, using cunning and stealth. London Muslims-gone-wild are like apes, grunting and
    making strange noises. A well aimed bullet effectively brings them down.
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:44am
    - stephieboy
      
      Indandout , Asiatic Gurkhas would be able to stop a randomised vehicle attack with what precsely ?
      
      Gurkha knives ?
      
      LOL
      
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      June 6, 2017 9:57am
    - kowtow
      
      Gurkhas are light infantry not ninjas.
      And talking of colonial troops Punjabi Muslims put in a lot for King and Empire back in the day , arguably more than their somewhat reticent Hindu cousins……..
      
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      June 6, 2017 1:55pm
- stephieboy
  
  Indandout ,
  
  Sebastian Gorka to leave White House amid accusations of links to far-right
  
  Briton, who previously worked for Fox News and Breitbart, had been hired to sit on an advisory panel created by Steve Bannon
  
  Sebastian Gorka, an adviser to Donald Trump who has been under pressure over his links to Hungarian far-right groups, is leaving the White House.
  A senior official said Gorka, a former counterterrorism analyst for Fox News who joined the administration as an adviser, will be leaving the White House in the coming days.
  
  Trump aide drew plan on napkin to partition Libya into three
  Read more
  
  The official said that Gorka had initially been hired to sit on the strategic initiatives group, an advisory panel created by Trump’s chief strategist Steve Bannon to run parallel to the national security council.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/01/sebastian-gorka-to-leave-white-house-amid-accusations-of-links-to-far-right
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:39am
  - Inandout
    
    You would of course have been happy had Gorka been associated with the far Islam, like Hillary’s Muslim bed mate Huma Mahmood Abedin.
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:49am
    - stephieboy
      
      Indandout , and the President and the White House Lady fetted by Saudi Royalty with multi billion dollare Trade and Military deals ?
      
      LOL
      
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      June 6, 2017 9:59am
  - Ross12
    
    That Guardian report from the usual “unnamed source” was printed on May 1 —as far as I know Gorka still has his job.
    So another failed attempted hit job by the MSM.
    
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    June 6, 2017 10:09am
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      Ross12 , what do you find so attractive about Gorka apart from his notoriously extreme alt right beliefs ?
      
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      June 6, 2017 10:44am
Southern Raider

Melbourne under siege last night.

ISIS claim responsibility

A bit to close to home and especially with freedom of movement between Australia and NZ
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June 6, 2017 9:27am
- Inandout
  
  Yes, also ‘known to Police’.
  http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/06/05/17/14/police-block-off-streets-after-explosion-at-melbourne-apartment-building
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:35am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Just listening to ABC. Was part of a planned attack on an army base in Australia in 2009 that but bungled. He was acquitted.
    
    Has been out on bail for a few months after severing some jail time for other criminal offences.
    
    Vic Police note that have hundreds until constant surveillance and he wasn’t on that list as he wasn’t considered a big enough threat
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:58am
  - Rich Prick
    
    “Known to Police” seems to be code for letting them have a second crack. I’d prefer it to mean “about to receive a gunshot wound to the head”.
    
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    June 6, 2017 10:35am
- Southern Raider
  
  Vic Police now come out that he was known to Police and had been part of previous terror type activities in NSW.
  
  How many times have we heard this before
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:36am
- Longknives
  
  Yeah but apparently this guy was a Mentally Unstable ‘Lone Wolf’ and a totally ‘one off’ event and we have nothing to worry about here…
  Or so I heard this morning.
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:42am
- MCos
  
  That chap isn’t going anywhere.
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:47am
- MCos
  
  ‘ISIS claims responsibility’
  Comm. Ashton said police “were not placing too much weight” on ISIS’s claims.
  Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/06/05/17/14/police-block-off-streets-after-explosion-at-melbourne-apartment-building#vY0iUdXY8zRIglhb.99
  
  If SBW gets a red card on Wednesday ISIS will claim responsibility
  
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  June 6, 2017 10:00am
  - kowtow
    
    If someone farted in the Vatican , ISIS would claim it.
    
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    June 6, 2017 1:48pm
Rodney Randall

https://youtu.be/Y7HQRyJDTPo

Rise of the Houthi.

Full documentary on sectarian violence in Yemen.

Tragic.
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June 6, 2017 9:36am
- Reid
  
  It’s not sectarian violence Rodney anymore than Syria is sectarian violence. It’s state-sponsored terrorism, in this case, led by Saudi-Arabia.
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:52am
  - stephieboy
    
    Reid , you forgot the US President . Or…. ?
    
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    June 6, 2017 10:00am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Shia / Sunni ideological conflict is what I was referring to Reid i.e. madness.
    
    Absolute madness.
    
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    June 6, 2017 10:18am
    - Reid
      
      The point is Rodney, which side is provoking it and why.
      
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      June 6, 2017 10:30am
      - Rodney Randall
        
        The hidden dictatorship of the Rothschild family?
        
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        June 6, 2017 11:01am
Manolo

The tolerant Swedes are waking up:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4492336/Sweden-falls-love-migrants.html
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June 6, 2017 9:49am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, they certainly are and those targeting those with darker skins .
  
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34612000
  
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  June 6, 2017 10:03am
Longknives

Gareth Morgan is recruiting some ‘Big Names’ for his party-

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/93354441/gareth-morgans-message-on-cannabis-hits-home

Ha Ha Abe Gray! The guy who ran for Mayor on the promise he would “abstain from Cannabis during work hours”
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/dcc/mayoral-profile-abe-gray

National must be shaking in their boots..
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June 6, 2017 9:51am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I wonder if Philip Stoner Twyford will be recruited by The Opportunities to Smoke Dope Party.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Twyford
  
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  June 6, 2017 2:34pm
Hugh Pavletich

NZ HOUSING CRISIS: URBAN LIMITS ABOLITION & PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING – WHEN ?

Capital sees biggest fall in available rental stock as national shortage worsens … Stuff NZ

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/93132872/Capital-sees-biggest-fall-in-available-rental-stock-as-national-shortage-worsens?cid=app-iPad

The nation’s rental crisis appears to be deepening, with new figures revealing large reductions in available homes and significant rent increases in some areas.

Wellington was hit hardest. The number of rentals on the market plummeted 65 per cent while rent prices and viewings jumped 11 per cent, pushing average rents up to $450 a week in the capital, according to Trade Me’s year-on-year figures from April. … read more via hyperlink above …

LABOUR SUPPORT ON CITY LIMITS ABOLITION WELCOME – NICK SMITH – MAY 2016

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/labour-support-city-limits-welcomed

The new position by the Labour opposition calling for an abolition of city limits has been welcomed by Building and Housing Minister Dr Nick Smith.

“This is a welcome repositioning by Labour. Tight city limits and not allowing intensification is at the core of Auckland’s housing problems. It is limiting new housing developments, driving up section and house prices and encouraging land banking. … read more via hyperlink above …

The NZ homeowners who hate high house prices are revealed in Labour polling | Stuff.co.nz

http://i.stuff.co.nz/business/money/90244287/The-NZ-homeowners-who-hate-high-house-prices-are-revealed-in-Labour-polling

… Bernard Hickey reported recently …

https://pro.newsroom.co.nz/articles/1629-newsroom-pro-s-8-things-at-8-trolling-millennials-is-easy-defamation-retrials-loom

7. Just in case you missed it…

One curious coda to the RMA debate that concluded last week was that the Opposition parties plus ACT and United Future all voted again during the third reading debate for amendments that would have abolished Rural Urban Growth Boundaries and allowed the financing of infrastructure bonds paid for with targeted rates.

The amendments were defeated by National and the Maori Party.

The irony of a Government that has railed against restrictions on land development by councils voting against removing those restrictions should be noted. And also that the proposal for infrastructure bonds was backed by the right-leaning New Zealand Initiative and voted for by the Greens and Labour. Strange times indeed.
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June 6, 2017 9:54am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Oh God, here’s the boring bastard again.
  And this is only the beginning.
  
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  June 6, 2017 10:20am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    THE BURSTING AUCKLAND HOUSING BUBBLE …
    
    Barfoot & Thompson’s May sales at lowest level since 2010, inventory of homes for sale up 43% compared to a year ago … Interest Co NZ
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/88138/barfoot-thompsons-may-sales-lowest-level-2010-inventory-homes-sale-43-compared-year
    
    Barfoot & Thompson said there was greater pressure for prices to fall in May than there had been for several years.
    
    The pressure on prices is coming from big increases in the number of homes available for sale while actual sales numbers decline.
    
    The real estate agency, which is by far the largest in the Auckland region, reported 886 residential property sales in May, up on the 664 reported in April but down 420, or 32%, on the 1306 in May last year.
    
    It was the lowest number of sales in the month of May since 2010. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    Housing market has slowed dramatically – Business – NZ Herald News
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11868375
    
    The last two months have seen a significant slowdown in the property market, across the country. Yes, we are now experiencing the chill of winter, but this is more than just that.
    
    The first evidence comes from our measure of buyer demand. There was a surge in activity during late February and early March, which is normal for that time of year, and usually carries through until Easter. … read more via hyperlink above
    
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    June 6, 2017 11:05am
    - holysheet
      
      Hugh you should stop sniffing that stuff you are on.
      You answered your own question with this:
      
      The pressure on prices is coming from big increases in the number of homes available for sale while actual sales numbers decline.
      
      In lay man terms it simply means the supply is catching up with demand. As it has already done in Christchurch.
      What is the problem ?
      
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      June 6, 2017 11:41am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Holysheet … note my recent Kiwiblog post … posted at MacroBusiness Australia as well …
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/06/links-6-june-2017/#comment-2883183
        
        AUSTRALIA / NEW ZEALAND … HOW PREPARED ARE WE FOR HOUSING MARKET CORRECTIONS ? …
        … Pavletich Kiwiblog post …
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/06/general_debate_4_june_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1943479 … further comments welcome …
        
        Hugh Pavletich
        
        HOW PREPARED ARE WE FOR HOUSING MARKET CORRECTIONS ? …
        
        What’s getting underway now is a ‘buyers strike’ with financial institutions removing the excess high octane fuel … starting with Auckland, Sydney, Melbourne … then the rest of them.
        
        Note that the average median multiples for the Irish metros when it burst there in 2007 was 4.7. It collapsed to 2.8 … putting all the Irish Banks to the wall and requiring a bailout of at least 70 billion euro.
        
        It’s still ‘mortgage mayhem’ there due to the draconian Irish debtor laws I understand.
        
        Subsequent research by the Central Bank of Ireland found it was high income multiple lending rather than high loan to value lending that put the Banks to the wall … and a general mortgage cap of 3.5 times annual household earnings was imposed. The Bank of England had earlier generally capped at 4.5 times.
        
        Australia’s housing is currently 5.5 average median multiple overall … New Zealand 5.9. … read more via hyperlink above …
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        … Auckland housing bubble bursts …
        
        The number of homes available for sale in Auckland up 51% on last year. Stock also up in Waikato, Bay of Plenty, Wellington and Canterbury | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/88080/number-homes-available-sale-auckland-51-last-year-stock-also-waikato-bay-plenty
        
        Lower house prices and static mortgage rates improved housing affordability substantially in many parts of the country in April … Interest Co NZ
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/87977/lower-house-prices-and-static-mortgage-rates-improved-housing-affordability
        
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        June 6, 2017 1:15pm
      - holysheet
        
        Sorry everyone. I forgot not to poke the bear.
        Hugh, I must have missed it amongst all the other shit you post on here.
        
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        June 6, 2017 1:17pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Reserve Bank of New Zealand Governor Graeme Wheeler back September 2015 …
        
        Auckland market in danger zone – RB | Radio New Zealand News
        
        http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/business/283784/auckland-market-in-danger-zone-rb
        
        … extract …
        
        But Mr Wheeler this afternoon told MPs the faster house prices rose in Auckland, the greater the likelihood of a steep price reversal.
        
        He (Reserve Bank of New Zealand Governor Graeme Wheeler) said Auckland house prices were not sustainable.
        
        “The house price to income ratio for Auckland is at nine. It’s twice that for the rest of the country,” he said.
        
        “A ratio of nine puts you, according to Demographia figures, in the top 10 most expensive cities in the world.
        
        “This is just dangerous territory.” ..
        
        … via http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org
        
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        June 6, 2017 1:39pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Is Auckland’s housing market about to roll over? – MacroBusiness Australia … behind paywall …
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/06/aucklands-housing-market-roll/
        
        By Leith van Onselen
        
        Several strings of data suggests that the Reserve Bank of New Zealand’s (RBNZ) loan-to-value ratio (LVR) restrictions targeting investors, which were announced in July 2016, are beginning to have the desired effect of cooling Auckland’s runaway housing market.
        
        As noted last week, the value of investor mortgages taken out across Auckland in April 2017 was down 43% year-on-year, whereas the share of investor mortgages by value were down 42% in April across Auckland – a significant moderation from the 48% peak recorded in June 2016
        
        Last week, it was reported that the number of homes listed for sale across Auckland on Realestate.co.nz was 51% above the same time last year and also the highest level in five years: … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        June 6, 2017 1:57pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        For the love of God, pleeeeease make it stop.
        
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        June 6, 2017 2:33pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Holysheet … note my recent Kiwiblog post … posted at MacroBusiness Australia as well …
        
        FFS; Hugh trolls the Australians as well; poor buggers!
        
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        June 6, 2017 2:36pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        TORONTO BUBBLE BUST UPDATE …
        
        Toronto home prices drop six percent in May 2017 – VICE News
        
        https://news.vice.com/story/toronto-home-prices-drop-six-percent-in-may-2017
        
        UPDATE 2-Toronto May home sales drop as listings surge, price gains slow … Reuters
        
        https://www.reuters.com/article/canada-housing-toronto-idUSL1N1J20BS
        
        Book and Weblog – Authored by Garth Turner — Greater Fool – Authored by Garth Turner – The Troubled Future of Real Estate
        
        http://www.greaterfool.ca/
        
        … extract …
        
        WARNING: What follows is based upon Toronto Real Estate statistics. Be advised it may contain misleading Frankenumbers, unhealthy assumptions, coarse calculations and adult situations. Reader discretion is advised.
        
        Average price drop during May: – 6.2%
        Total sales drop in GTA during May: – 12%
        Drop in sales year/year: – 20.3%
        Average price: $863,910
        Average detached house one-month price drop: –$64,221
        Decline year/year in detached sales: –26%
        Average price reduction (all properties) over one month: –$56,881
        One-month increase in new listings: 19.4%
        Increase in active listings year/year: 43%
        
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        June 6, 2017 4:32pm
      - stigie
        
        “Fuck Hugh”
        
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        June 6, 2017 5:15pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Australian house prices ‘very inflated’, ANZ chief executive Shane Elliot says … Domain
        
        https://www.domain.com.au/news/australian-house-prices-very-inflated-anz-chief-executive-shayne-elliott-says-20170606-gwlknf/
        
        •A third of home owners risk losing homes if sick
        •Household debt-to-income ratio balloons
        •Gosford the most affordable spot for Sydney first-home buyers
        
        The chief executive of ANZ has joined the chorus of voices warning of risks in Australia’s surging housing market, though he said the probability of an outright crash is “really low.”
        
        Home prices are “very inflated,” ANZ’s Chief Executive Officer Shayne Elliott said in an interview Tuesday with Bloomberg Television’s Stephen Engle in Beijing. In Sydney, prices have gained 75 per cent in the past five years, ranking it behind only Hong Kong as the world’s least affordable housing market.
        
        Asked whether a crash is looming, Elliott said it’s “a really low probability, but it is certainly something we stress test a lot, and think about.” … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        June 6, 2017 7:41pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Tinkering …
      
      Proposed Special Housing Areas in Thorndon and Tawa met with calls for affordibility | Stuff.co.nz
      
      http://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/business/residential-property/93390650/proposed-special-housing-areas-in-thorndon-and-tawa-met-with-calls-for-affordibility
      
      Some relief for Wellington’s housing shortage could come from new apartment blocks in Thorndon and Tawa, but questions are being raised over the affordability of the proposed extra homes.
      
      The sites – at 3 George St, Thorndon and 4 William Earp Place, Tawa – have been earmarked by the private owners as new potential Special Housing Areas (SHA).
      
      Deputy Mayor Paul Eagle, chairman of the council’s housing taskforce, said many councillors to see developers with SHAs include affordable housing in some of their future plans, he said. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      June 6, 2017 7:16pm
Inandout

One of Corbyn’s (dark) ‘shadow ministers’ is as thick as a painter’s plank.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4574822/Diane-Abbott-embarrasses-new-TV-interview.html
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June 6, 2017 10:12am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  The lovely and on-the-ball Katie Hopkins described Diane Abbott as “electoral Ebola”.
  
  It’s so cool that it’s a woman who is so brilliant at triggering the Leftist fascists – she brings out their sexism so well!
  
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  June 6, 2017 7:43pm
Chuck Bird

I wonder what Wayne Mapp thinks the chances of this happening here soon. He is totally lacking in common sense.

Melbourne attack ‘carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State’

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11870343
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June 6, 2017 10:15am
- Kimbo
  
  …says the guy who wants to go piling down a mine where 29 people were killed
  
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  June 6, 2017 10:21am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Died, no one killed them, unless you think of the mine as an entity.
    Just like a car or a road can’t kill.
    
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    June 6, 2017 10:50am
    - Kimbo
      
      Thanks, Rachael Membery. I bow to your precision. Is that like “guns don’t kill people, people do”? How does that work with “killed in action”…or does the fact it is not “killed by action” answer it?
      
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      June 6, 2017 11:02am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Kimbow? I like it.
        
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        June 6, 2017 11:23am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Perhaps you could research it for us.
        
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        June 6, 2017 12:31pm
      - Kimbo
        
        My time is currently consumed putting together a, by popular demand and feedback, reformulation of the copyright specifications of “Kimbo’s law” (upcoming public announcement very soon, much to holysheet’s enthusiasm), as well as in my capacity as literary agent, planning assignments for the ongoing series, “Postcards from Stars and Stripes”…so my plate is rather full. 🙂
        
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        June 6, 2017 12:39pm
      - holysheet
        
        Jesus kimbo, are you fulla shit or what?
        
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        June 6, 2017 12:44pm
      - Kimbo
        
        The consensus is…~~“entirely”~~…oops, I mean, “yes”.
        
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        June 6, 2017 12:45pm
  - JasonJohns
    
    Kimbo: do you accept that god sometimes takes revenge?
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:24pm
- Jack5
  
  Local coverage of the terrorist attack in Melbourne:
  
  http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/brighton-siege-gunman-took-hostage-to-lure-antiterror-police-to-apartment-block-20170605-gwl4bm.html
  
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  June 6, 2017 11:13am
Happychappy

It is about time the police starting charging these activists who put health and safety at risk when climbing up these huge cranes like the one overlooking Parliament in Wellington. People have a right to protest but some of these activists go to far and it is time for the law to stop it happening before their is a tragic ending.
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June 6, 2017 10:37am
- Chuck Bird
  
  They should also look at removing charity status for organizations that break the law.
  
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  June 6, 2017 10:42am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Greenpeace was stripped of its charitable status, but had it given back, on appeal.
    
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    June 6, 2017 2:38pm
- G152
  
  It has been evident to me for some time that the AOS need a lot of training especially in their use of their issued firearms.
  What better target than a crane full of clambering green monkeys…
  Give them, say, a couple of minutes to come down and then start seeing just how close they can put a round to the perp..
  Of course when one of them gets hit apologies will be issued in the fake media right after the ‘reporters’ angry outburst…
  But it should solve the problem
  
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  June 6, 2017 11:39am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Nah, encourage this, but make sure they can’t get down, for a few days at least. I’m quite sure a few nights in Wellingtons best winter weather will help them with their cause.
  
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  June 6, 2017 12:38pm
Fletch

Unbelievable. One of the London terrorists actually appeared in a TV documentary last year called (wait for it..) The Jihadis Next Door. Police were also warned about the man but chose to ignore it.

The attacker, whom police have requested not be named apart from his nickname ‘Abz’, appeared to pray to an Isis flag in a London park in Channel 4’s 2016 programme The Jihadis Next Door – a documentary about the behaviour and motivations of British extremists.

Ken Chigbo, who lived in the same block of flats as the attacker, told The Mirror the suspect was “really sociable” and would “preach to young Muslims at the flat, sometimes up to six people quite regularly”.

A former friend of one of the attackers told the BBC’s Asian Network he had contacted the authorities after he became concerned about his friend’s extremist views.

The terrorist had been radicalised watching extremist videos online, he said, adding: “We spoke about a particular attack that happened and like most radicals he had a justification for anything and everything and that day I realised I needed to contact the authorities.”

However, the attacker was not arrested and no further action taken, he says. “I did my bit, I know a lot of other people did their bit, but the authorities did not do their bit,” he said.

A scene in The Jihadis Next Door shows a group of extremists, one of whom is believed to be ‘Abz’, appearing to pray to an Isis flag in a London park.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-bridge-attack-suspect-channel-4-documentary-british-jihadis-uk-borough-market-stabbing-a7772986.html

When tolerance and the fear of offending take precedence over common sense.
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June 6, 2017 10:59am
- Inandout
  
  Reality TV with a sinister side, produced by Marxists. What next,’ Terrorists’ Family Game Show’ where the panel gets to pick future bombers from the Muslim lineup?
  
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  June 6, 2017 11:25am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Was it like the “Real Housewives of ISIS” spoof?
    Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHGgv6p7uVI
    
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    June 6, 2017 1:22pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Who would have thought, rounding up Muslim terrorists could be as simple as putting out a casting call for a reality show?
  
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  June 6, 2017 11:27am
- mandk
  
  If I lived in the UK, I would be concerned that both the bloke referred to above and the Manchester bomber were the subject of tip offs to the security services from within the Muslim community.
  
  Why bother tipping off if, seemingly, nothing is done about it?
  
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  June 6, 2017 12:17pm
  - Inandout
    
    What is more of a worry is the cost of monitoring the radicals which is apparently 60 security and police staff for each potential terrorist. Multiply that by 23,000 (which by all accounts is the true number) and you can see the task is impossible. Drastic measures are called for.
    
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    June 6, 2017 12:51pm
    - Paulus
      
      Problem – we live in a Society which says no arrest without evidence.
      Incarcerating them would be a Lawyer’s delight for tens of years.
      
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      June 6, 2017 3:39pm
      - Jack5
        
        But in a state of war, internment is acceptable.
        
        Does a Prime Minister declaring “we are at war with x” define a state of war?
        
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        June 6, 2017 8:19pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Tolerance and Apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.
  
  Aristotle
  
  Well, no one can say that we weren’t warned about the collapse of the West if Aristotle captured it so eloquently 2300 years ago.
  
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  June 6, 2017 7:46pm
  - Gabby
    
    Why lie with your fake quote?
    
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    June 6, 2017 8:24pm
Jack5

China bribery accusations in Australia:

http://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2017/chinas-operation-australia/hard-power.html
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June 6, 2017 11:17am
Rachael Membery

http://beta.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11870410
I hope the huuge, wasn’t a mistake on their banner. lol
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June 6, 2017 11:19am
Manolo

Trump vs Londonistan:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-seizes-london-attack-push-domestic-crackdown-180331970.html
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June 6, 2017 11:23am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, totally over of your depth ,
  
  Donald Trump has doubled down on his criticism of Sadiq Khan’s response to the terror attacks in London over the weekend, attacking him for a statement telling people that there is “no reason to be alarmed”.
  
  Contrary to the US President’s portrayal of the statement, the London Mayor had actually said that people in the capital shouldn’t be alarmed by the visibly increased police presence in the city. Mr Khan did not tell people that they should not be alarmed by the attacks.
  
  Mr Khan said that Mr Trump had “deliberately” taken his comments “out of context”, which the US President tweeted was a “pathetic excuse”. The media covering the London attack were “working hard to sell” Mr Khan’s “excuse”, Mr Trump wrote
  
  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sadiq-khan-london-attack-terror-tweets-pathetic-excuse-msm-no-reason-to-be-alarmed-a7773766.html
  
  Invest in a pair of inflatable swimming wings
  
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  June 6, 2017 12:37pm
  - Inandout
    
    Khan the Trojan horse, or more exactly the fox in the hen house.
    
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    June 6, 2017 12:53pm
    - Paulus
      
      Kahn will be the next Leader of the British Labour Party – watch this space.
      He will then mop up new Members.
      
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      June 6, 2017 3:40pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Looks like this tweet from Sadiq Khan on 9May was really effective./
        “As Mayor, I want to send an unequivocal message that carrying knives will not be tolerated on London’s streets facebook.com/MayorofLondon/…”
        
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        June 6, 2017 5:49pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Quisling Khan
      
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      June 6, 2017 7:49pm
  - Jack5
    
    Stephie to Manolo at 12.37: “Manolo, totally over of your depth ,”
    
    Totally over of your depth?
    
    I think Stephie means “totally out of your depth”.
    
    The Stephies have no grasp of idiomatic English.
    
    Stephiestani English is frozen in the Raj colonial era.
    
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    June 6, 2017 1:48pm
Manolo

All this while our resident multiculturalist pushes for more “refugees”. Quality Pakistani and Lybian exports:
https://www.infowars.com/london-bridge-terrorist-entered-uk-as-a-refugee-with-his-parents/

One of the terrorists who carried out Saturday night’s deadly rampage in London arrived in the UK as a refugee with his Pakistani parents.

“27-year-old Khuram Shazad Butt came to Britain as a child when his parents sought asylum from Pakistan,” reports Sky News.

Manchester bomber Salman Ramadan Abedi was also the son of “refugees” who arrived from Libya.
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June 6, 2017 11:27am
- GoVege
  
  Ungrateful bast**d.
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:51pm
Manolo

Where are the feminists?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/06/05/virginia-mosque-embattled-after-imam-said-female-genital-mutilation-prevents-hypersexuality/?utm_term=.ef8e6d92b3bb
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June 6, 2017 11:41am
- holysheet
  
  They are still trying to dig dirt on Trump. To busy to actually get involved in something really important to all women.
  
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  June 6, 2017 12:56pm
- sam green
  
  You are obviously very concerned about this – when will we see some action from you Manolo?
  
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  June 6, 2017 3:15pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Isn’t raising awareness doing something?
    Do you think it’s an acceptable practise Sam.
    
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    June 6, 2017 5:38pm
    - sam green
      
      He’s not raising awareness by the way – he’s trying to score points by shitting on feminists. If he was raising awareness of FGM I would think him a better man.
      
      Do I think it’s acceptable? What a stupid question.
      
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      June 6, 2017 5:49pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        And you sarcy response was stupid. You’re doing nothing too right’?
        And feminists deserve a serve. They’re doing nothing either, except in the US sucking up to cockroaches like Linda Sarsour.
        What a dick.
        
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        June 6, 2017 8:57pm
  - Jack5
    
    What sort of action do you expect from Manolo, Sam?
    
    Waving signs and singing Kumbaya won’t change the ideas of radical Muslims. So what would you have Manolo do?
    
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    June 6, 2017 5:38pm
    - sam green
      
      He can think that up for himself instead of crying about feminists.
      
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      June 6, 2017 5:45pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Sam is obviously more concerned about feminists reputations than victims of FGM.
      What a guy.
      
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      June 6, 2017 8:59pm
      - sam green
        
        Read for meaning All_on_red. Manolo used FGM as a vehicle to dig at feminists. Instead of calling out that practice itself. Got called. And so did you for asking stupid questions like “do I think it’s acceptable”.
        
        As I said below All_on _red, response about FGM needs to come from all sectors. Don’t let the feminists do all your work for you.
        
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        June 6, 2017 9:17pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Meh, all you are doing is scoring points too. The fact is Manolo is right. Feminists are notably quiet on FGM. Looks like you’re a bit ignorant how about how on all the pussy marches in the US this problem is ignored.
        Speaks volumes about political expediency about the Left trying to keep certain votes.
        But hey, you play ‘look squirrel’ pointing the finger at us and then with male circumcision!
        Do you even know who Linda Sarsour is?
        Idiot.
        
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        June 6, 2017 10:49pm
      - sam green
        
        Really? Calling me names calls yourself out in the end. Be kinder to yourself.
        
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        June 6, 2017 10:57pm
      - sam green
        
        Yeah I do All_on_red.
        
        They didn’t want her to speak at CUNY.
        
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        June 6, 2017 11:00pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        http://www.dailywire.com/news/12852/muslim-womens-march-organizer-attacks-female-hank-berrien
        http://valleyadvocate.com/2017/04/20/womens-march-linda-sarsour-umass/
        https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeLIKeueeskpFoEtpuQqCqcrP-N58rd9V
        http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/it-was-a-march-against-women/news-story/78cf214b3835e33fc9a8a5c1d4bcfce4
        http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/30/democrats-teaming-up-with-linda-sarsour-for-anti-trump-march-for-truth/
        http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/wow-womens-march-leader-linda-sarsour-attacks-victim-female-genital-mutilation-ayaan-hirsi-ali/
        She’s a Lefty favourite.
        
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        June 6, 2017 11:33pm
- sam green
  
  Manolo – this might be helpful.
  
  https://www.change.org/p/fgm-abolitionists-internationally-support-the-feminist-statement-on-female-genital-mutilation
  
  Responses to the horror that is FGM need to come from all sectors and maybe, some loud response from males to other males given that it is a condition of pure subjugation of women. I’m sure you and your plethora of uptickers could start with a loud voice. Male circumcision too – what fucking monsters make this shit up.
  
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  June 6, 2017 5:43pm
  - sam green
    
    To answer my own question – some Jew with a funny shaped knife. It’s all barbaric and harkens back to some unelightened tribalism.
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:27pm
    - sam green
      
      Here’s a link.
      
      http://www.intactamerica.org/learnmore
      
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      June 6, 2017 9:49pm
    - sam green
      
      Bringing up male circumcision is no squirrel mate. It has been totally medicalised in Western countries so it is seen as an acceptable practice. Something that women are trying to deal with in Indonesia among other wealthier countries, is the medicalisation of FMG – so it happens as a matter of course when kids get immunised.
      So we should make both practices illegal – worldwide. Try telling that to certain sectors.
      
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      June 6, 2017 11:04pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Do you really want to equate circumcision to clitoridectomy?
        You really are an idiot.
        
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        June 6, 2017 11:18pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Oh wow, a web site- that’ll do it. What? No hashtag, selfies with signs,Lights on the Eiffel Tower? Sad!
    Yet we have seen on television, footage of women marching wearing silly hats and making speeches. Huge international coverage.
    Nothing about FGM mentioned. Not in the speeches, not even a sign.
    Silence.
    The Left are full of crap.
    Hey, let’s talk about how Lefty gays stand up for Islam next.
    Hahahahahahahahaha
    
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    June 6, 2017 10:57pm
    - sam green
      
      Now that is a squirrel.
      
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      June 6, 2017 11:05pm
    - sam green
      
      Do women have to fix everything all at once for you. Be my guest – make your own fucking sign.
      
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      June 6, 2017 11:06pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Manolo raised the issue. I supported him and yet.
        You criticise us both.
        Wow
        Look at yourself.
        
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        June 6, 2017 11:20pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        It’s ok Sam
        We all know, that for the Left.
        It’s the side which counts…
        
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        June 6, 2017 11:40pm
      - sam green
        
        I’ve not criticised you. I said your comment was stupid and suggested you read for meaning not rabid outrage.
        
        And yes All_on_red, there is a correlation- it is all genital mutilation of some sort. Maybe it’s a discussion to be had. I’m not equating the two in terms of the subjugation of women because that’s a whole other deal.
        
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        June 6, 2017 11:57pm
      - sam green
        
        “It’s the side which counts…”
        
        I think that’s your buzz.
        
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        June 7, 2017 12:02am
JasonJohns

Sadiq Khan should be in an internment camp, not in the office of the mayor of London.

Uptick if you agree.
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June 6, 2017 12:14pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  All we need, more extremists, just not being mayor of London would be fine.
  
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  June 6, 2017 12:40pm
  - JasonJohns
    
    Calls are growing for the mass internment of UK Muslims Rachael. David Garrett has put the case eloquently. Tommy Robinson says internment is not extreme, because if Muslims are not locked up for their own protection vigilante mobs may target them.
    
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    June 6, 2017 12:54pm
    - SPC
      
      An irony that internment today is akin to the concentration of labour camps in Poland.
      
      The exploitation of graduates as unpaid labour. So that they are tested for worthiness for the minimum wage work their parents did on leaving high school with SC.
      
      And they are grateful, lest the jobs go to migrant labour who welcome the MW employment.
      
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      June 6, 2017 1:07pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      What a crock to put ‘for their own protection’. Returning home to a Muslim country has to be an option for both parties.
      
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      June 6, 2017 1:36pm
Ross12

I hope those Green Peace idiots who have climbed the crane outside Parliament get dragged into Court like the last lot.
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June 6, 2017 12:18pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I heard they’ve been complaining about how they were treated.
  Fuckwits pushing a lost cause.
  
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  June 6, 2017 12:53pm
  - Ross12
    
    There should be at least trespass and “health and safety issue” prosecutions for a start.
    
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    June 6, 2017 3:50pm
- Inandout
  
  Reaching the heights of idiocy.
  
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  June 6, 2017 12:55pm
JasonJohns

The war against mau Mau is a model for the mass internment of terror sympathisers. It was done before and can be done again if the will is there. Churchill used mass internment and judicious executions and torture to crush the Mau Mau.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Detention_Camps_during_the_Mau_Mau_Uprising
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June 6, 2017 12:56pm
SPC

The irony to Trump withdrawing from the Paris agreement is that the US of A is reducing emissions faster than just about any other nation – in effect they are just not funding renewable tech for developing nations.

The consequence will be that developing nations will be buying Chinese made solar tech rather than American – which will aid them in dominating the global market (increase the relative cost of American tech on the commercial market.
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June 6, 2017 12:58pm
- Jack5
  
  China already dominates the solar industry. Add to cheaper labour these: tax credits and the Chinese Government pumping in billions.
  
  Trump is not to blame. In fact, he seems to be kicking back against the State-led Chinese dominance.
  
  This report is from 2013, but explains how China took pole position in solar production:
  
  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-china-is-dominating-the-solar-industry/
  
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  June 6, 2017 1:43pm
  - SPC
    
    He now cannot kick back by funding American solar tech to third world nations under the Paris agreement can he? And this would have lowered the cost of the American product (scale and all that) and created funds for technological development (that now has to come from capital investment).
    
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    June 6, 2017 2:07pm
    - Jack5
      
      I think your wrong, SPC. America’s funds under the Paris agreement would have gone to buy Chinese solar equipment.
      
      The capital investment you speak of is already coming from the Chinese Government. I’m not surprised that Trump doesn’t see why America should top that up to subsidise the Chinese solar industry.
      
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      June 6, 2017 3:36pm
krazykiwi

The Middle East diplomatic spat is intensifying:

Arab Gulf countries cut diplomatic ties with Qatar and suspended Doha-bound flights.

There’s a bit of interesting history here. Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi had a historical border dispute over some land that directly connected Qatar and Abu Dhabi, and cut Saudi Araba’s Persian Gulf access south east of Qatar.

When Qatar refused to join the UAE on it’s formation in 1971, the then Emir of Abu Dhabi was apparently so furious with his Qatari neighbour (a cousin?) that he relinquished the disputed Gulf access land ostensibly to resolve the dispute, but privately because he no longer wanted to share a border with his relative.

Quite the tantrum 🙂
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June 6, 2017 2:04pm
- Reid
  
  No there’s a lot more to it than that kk.
  
  It’s the most interesting geopolitical story going at the mo. But the silly ole MSM and consequently the silly ole sheeple know nothing about it.
  
  As usual.
  
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  June 6, 2017 3:33pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    I only mention the land dispute because I found it humourous that a family feud ended up redrawing national borders. But yes, I expect there’s lots more to this story outside the MSM’s narrow view.
    
    The other geopolitical story that I’m interested in is China’s island creation activities in the south China sea. Quite a few overlapping claims!
    
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    June 6, 2017 4:55pm
Jack5

The looney Leftists are out and about around Parliament protesting about the visit of the American Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson.

They’re welcome to express their views, but less welcome is the fact that State television tonight will likely give them hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of free publicity.

Mr Tillerson should know that the NZ Left is probably the world’s most stupid among socialists.

For example, NZ Communists stuck with Stalin well into his appalling purges. Then they swung to Mao Tse Tung, who probably killed more people than anyone-else in history. Finally, when Maoists began to soften, they switched allegiance to the Communists of Albania.

These are the sort of fuckwits in the streets today lampooning the United States.
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June 6, 2017 2:15pm
- Jack5
  
  I see Stuff, the Fairfax Media web site, has chimed in with a heading: “NZ flips Rex Tillerson the bird.”
  
  NZ? This sliver of Leftist nutters is NZ? Roll on the election.
  
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  June 6, 2017 3:32pm
Longknives

Get caught speeding? Blame “Racism”!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11870393

Seriously.. Read the story- This guy is a freaking buffoon!
*Oh and he got a Queens Birthday Honour..
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June 6, 2017 3:18pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Take the racist flag off your car and you won’t get this kind of attention, you stupid bastard.
  
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  June 6, 2017 3:38pm
  - Longknives
    
    You actually believe that story Captain? I think it’s a crock of shite…
    Driving at 170kph because he was being chased by ‘evil white supremacists’? Really??
    
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    June 6, 2017 3:53pm
    - kowtow
      
      Pinged twice for doing 169 kph. What a coincidence.
      
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      June 6, 2017 6:22pm
Chuck Bird

Compare what Winston says with bigotry and intolerance names made by David Seymour and Peter Dunne.

Winston Peters tells Muslim communities, families to ‘clean house’

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11870566
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June 6, 2017 3:45pm
- Happychappy
  
  Who elected Peters to speak for NZers, what a fucking arsesole.
  
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  June 6, 2017 3:50pm
  - Lance
    
    Who elected Angry Andy to spout forth anything at all?
    
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    June 6, 2017 6:15pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  Happy, Winston has as much right to speak as much as any other party leader. Like them he is not speaking for all New Zealanders but stating his party’s policy.
  
  It will be interesting what the other larger parties have to say on the issue. What he says in not racist as he is not referring any particular race.
  
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  June 6, 2017 4:17pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Chuck and you cry wolf when some one talks about Maori in your town. There is good and bad in all race. When and if they do something here then you can vioceyour view about them being terrorists.
    
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    June 6, 2017 4:29pm
Happychappy

So Winston Peters keeps up his Racial vote catching gutter politics and tells Muslims to clean there house. Even though he is talking about terrorism what fucking right has he got to voice his opinion no one elected him to talk for NZers.
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June 6, 2017 3:46pm
- nasska
  
  A few backed him as a spokesman for their causes, otherwise he wouldn’t be in parliament now.
  
  I’m not much of a Peter’s fan but he’s saying what needs to be said……what is being carefully ignored by the National government we elected.
  
  …..”Peters told Parliament there was a tendency to minimise terror attacks as the act of self-radicalised, lone wolves.
  
  “That needs to be completely re-thought in the West…we must ask, ‘how could people plan such terrible deeds but leave their friends, mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters and spouses completely in the dark?’ “…..
  
  AND
  
  ….”Peters said the “Islamic community” needed to “clean house” by “turning these monsters in”.”…..
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11870566
  
  Tell us Happychappy. What the Hell has he said that you don’t agree with?
  
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  June 6, 2017 4:22pm
  - Happychappy
    
    They haven’t done any thing to turn in you tar everyone with the same brush by making statements like that and it is no different to what Twyford said about chinky names. You can’t have it both ways, criticize one for saying racial comments and then make it right for other to be tarred.
    
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    June 6, 2017 4:37pm
    - minto57
      
      You are just a apologist for this filth and as such part of the problem. For your enlightenment. Peters is the member for Northland and we are still waiting for the 10 bridges
      
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      June 6, 2017 4:48pm
    - nasska
      
      It’s called profiling Happychappy. Practised by every police force & intelligence agency in the world.
      
      The day Shintos & Sikhs start suicide bombing & slashing pedestrians will likely be when they get profiled too.
      
      Personally, I couldn’t possibly care less whether some head banger has his feelings hurt. In my world the safety of my family & friends trumps everything.
      
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      June 6, 2017 4:52pm
      - RF
        
        nasska.
        
        Racial profiling makes sense. If the Police receive a report of a Maori driving a car leaving the scene of a crime they sure as hell don’t start pulling over Caucasian nuns driving cars.
        
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        June 6, 2017 9:31pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Um, that’s not what racial profiling means…
        
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        June 6, 2017 9:34pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      “They haven’t done any thing to turn in”
      
      What about the bumbling jihadist fighting with ISIS? How about the Muslim woman who tried to hijack an small aircraft. There also was some concern about what was going on in a Mt Roskill mosque. There are also some under surveillance here.
      
      There was a terrorist murder in Melbourne yesterday.
      
      Do you want to wait until a NZer is murdered on NZ soil? NZers have been murdered by Islamic terrorist overseas. There were two NZers injured at London Bridge – one seriously.
      
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      June 6, 2017 5:00pm
      - Happychappy
        
        That the sort of response I would expect from you run with the hares and hunt with the hounds. Did people make it hard for you when you decided to come to NZ.
        
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        June 6, 2017 5:08pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        You are still confusing race with a death cult. You are also confusing immigration with public safety.
        
        As I have said on the blog many times I socialize with many races.
        
        NZers welcome most people who want to integrate. Muslims do not want to integrate.
        
        Most of my friends are NZers – Maori and non Maori.
        
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        June 6, 2017 5:30pm
Stars And Stripes

Elderly tenant loses eviction battle over Glen Innes home of two decades
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11870543.
“In a decision out today, an Auckland District Court judge has ruled against 62-year-old Ioela (Niki) Rauti and upheld an earlier Tenancy Tribunal decision to have her evicted”.

Time to piss off now bludger as the taxpayer is done with you and your rabble.
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June 6, 2017 3:56pm
- Longknives
  
  Best news I’ve heard all day- Don’t let the door hit your arse on the way out you Parasitic old bludger!!
  
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  June 6, 2017 4:09pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Go and stay at Penny’s place, the two of you are made for each other.
  
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  June 6, 2017 4:13pm
  - nasska
    
    Someone should warn her……it’s BYO at Penny’s.
    
    Bathwater that is. 🙂
    
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    June 6, 2017 4:25pm
  - RF
    
    Might only be a few days as an eviction notice could be nailed to the door.
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:25pm
Stars And Stripes

Primary school ‘excludes’ girl with period
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201846444/primary-school-excludes-girl-with-period.
“A 10-year-old girl was sent home from her primary school because it did not have a sanitary disposal unit for her to use, a public health sociologist says”.

Are there no female teachers at this school or do they bring there own bins as well?.
Given all the feminist PC speak in this article I tend to think it could be either exaggerated or complete bullshit.
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June 6, 2017 4:38pm
- waikatogirl
  
  If it was her first period then the little 10 year old probably needed to go home. It would be quite a traumatic/scary event for her the first time. If she is used to having her period then shame on her mother for not equipping her with the required pads. Schools shouldn’t be expected to provide for periods unless she is caught short for some reason outside her control.
  
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  June 6, 2017 6:23pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  How embarrassing for her, how does something of that nature even get on the radio/in the news?
  
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  June 6, 2017 6:49pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I think it was the fact that there was no bucket available for the disposal of used pads. According to the radio … the parents had to supply the school with a disposal bucket.
    
    Admittedly, it does sound weird.
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:04pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @Rachael
    
    I imagine it’s all connected to the call for the Government to fund menstrual products.
    
    (Must admit, with a household of menstruating females, the monthly budget used to get a big hit….)
    
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    June 6, 2017 9:06pm
Inandout

Peter Dunne defends Muslims, while Peters speaks straight up. Oh Dunne, you can’t reason with ISIS types you wanker.
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June 6, 2017 5:03pm
Keeping Stock

Barry Soper on Twitter:

Barry Soper‏ @barrysoper

Little makes the strongest Trump criticism of anyone ahead of his meeting with Tillerson. Trump demeans the office, is clumsy and ham-fisted

Little’s description of Trump seems in fact to be a pretty accurate description of himself as well; just sayin’…
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June 6, 2017 5:21pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Well, except that Trump actually got elected…
  
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  June 6, 2017 5:27pm
- Manolo
  
  Our Angry Andy is never wrong, isn’t he? Being a union boss gives you infinite wisdom.
  
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  June 6, 2017 5:33pm
All_on_Red

‘A failure of assimilation’
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5460762172001/?#sp=show-clips
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June 6, 2017 5:30pm
- Inandout
  
  Charles speaks a lot of sense, in his measured way.
  
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  June 6, 2017 5:38pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    I think the laboured breathing is a result of the accident he has which left him paralysed.
    Hes pretty good though.
    
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    June 6, 2017 6:38pm
    - Inandout
      
      Yes he dived into a swimming pool and hit the bottom causing chest damage.
      
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      June 6, 2017 8:24pm
Jack5

Are there any limits to human cruelty to animals?

A zoo feeds tigers by pushing in a live donkey.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4573952/Tigers-fed-LIVE-donkey-Chinese-zoo-gory-video.html
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June 6, 2017 5:48pm
- GoVege
  
  Disgusting savages.
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:26pm
- Gabby
  
  Munter McMutton demands they try live sheep instead.
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:03pm
fernglas

My word, Donald Trump is one smart cookie. His recent tweets include the following;
1) Describing the Courts as political and slow
2) Inviting the Supreme Court to impose a harsher travel ban than the one under appeal (ie to legislate; the province of the Legislature)
3) Criticising the Justice Dept. for appealing a watered-down “politically correct” version of the travel ban (albeit one he had signed off himself)
4) Insisting that the travel ban is just that, despite JD lawyers insisting on appeal that it was not.

He has almost guaranteed an adverse Supreme Court decision as the conservative bench there will not like being told what to do one bit, by someone who clearly has contempt for the judicial process and who has confirmed the intent of the travel ban.

He has thus cleverly engineered a constitutional showdown which could further cement his power and enable him to push through the legislative and societal changes he was elected to fulfil.

The naysayers will say this is just another example of the pig-headed and ignorant approach to governing that has characterised the Trump administration.
We shall see
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June 6, 2017 6:12pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Interesting to see if Ginsburg recuses herself from the ‘Travel Ban’ case given her comments about Trump last year.
  Btw, all he is doing is excercising powers he already has, powers which Obama used during his term.
  Not sure why you think he needs to ‘goad’ the Court given he must be fully aware Conservatives now have a majority and must be confident they will assert he has the power to do what he wants to do.
  Frankly, the basis of the injunction is completely political.
  
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  June 6, 2017 6:33pm
  - fernglas
    
    There´s no dispute he has the power to do what he has done, the issue is whether he has exercised that power constitutionally.
    
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    June 6, 2017 6:58pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Can you expand on that? Seems contradictory that he has the power but he has somehow broken the Constitution.
      You are aware that non citizens who aren’t IN the US aren’t protected by the Constitution?
      
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      June 6, 2017 8:47pm
      - fernglas
        
        Sure. The President has the power to make regulations such as the travel ban, or the requirement to use only US steel in pipelines, etc. by decree. However, in making those decrees, he has to act constitutionally. Otherwise he could decree anything, no matter how repugnant to the constitution. I am aware that the constitution does not apply to people outside the US; that is the reason why the plaintiffs in these cases have been individuals or businesses in the US who could be affected by the travel ban, for example preventing them from entertaining overseas clients or bringing in skilled employees.
        
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        June 7, 2017 2:30am
Lance

I know I might be a bit of an old bugger ah – hemm
But in my student days we used to burn people in efergy
On the news was a bunch of Green Party supporters throwing water at an efergy of the US secretary of state
WTF??????
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June 6, 2017 6:19pm
Stars And Stripes

Violet Tupou’s death ‘an accident waiting to happen,’ local community leader says
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/manukau-courier/93363844/violet-tupous-death-an-accident-waiting-to-happen-local-community-leader-says
“The lessons to learn from Violet’s death were two-fold, she said: educating Maori and Pasifika children – and their parents – of the dangers of stormwater drains, and the need to report open drains immediately”.

So Māori and PI now need special stormwater drain training apparently because somehow they don’t realise they are dangerous.
Better make sure they know what happens when you stand in front of a moving train as well.
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June 6, 2017 6:24pm
- nasska
  
  What can you say? Maori & PI children must be thick & a little bit special if pakeha & Chinese kids get by without special stormwater safety courses.
  
  Perhaps one of our multiculturalists can explain what I’ve got wrong.
  
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  June 6, 2017 6:38pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Did you read the article?
  
  Violet was 17 and autistic…. degree of disability is not stated, but I would suggest very disabled.
  
  She may well have been unable to recognize the danger she was in.
  
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  June 6, 2017 7:05pm
  - nasska
    
    Yes, I read the article.
    
    Including this bit:
    
    ….”The lessons to learn from Violet’s death were two-fold, she said: educating Maori and Pasifika children – and their parents – of the dangers of stormwater drains, and the need to report open drains immediately. “…..
    
    Personally, if I were Maori or PI I would consider local community leader Lemauga Lydia Sosene’s comment to be patronising beyond all belief but there we have it.
    
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    June 6, 2017 7:11pm
    - GoVege
      
      Believe me, the accident stats back in “the islands” are way worse.
      It’s positively dangerous for kids especially disabled ones living there.
      The adults think safety is a joke, that only silly Palagis worry about.
      They leave a kid of about 12 or even younger in charge of hordes of kids.
      A young Pacifica girl I knew nearly bled to death when her wrist was badly cut on a glass door while babysitting half a dozen kids.
      They pay no attention to water safety at the beach…why would they bother close to home?
      
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      June 6, 2017 8:36pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Yes for sure but how is that going to be fixed by giving training to ethnic PARENTS on the dangers of stormwater drains?.
    If they are not already aware then maybe they need to take a good look at themselves instead of suggesting it is the councils fault.
    
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    June 6, 2017 7:14pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Here’s additional information.

Drain cover was removed….
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11870465
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June 6, 2017 7:22pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Yes well people do stupid things like that in these sorts of neighbourhoods so maybe we need to start laying some manslaughter charges instead of suggesting training courses.
  
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  June 6, 2017 7:30pm
  - sam green
    
    “these sorts of neighbourhoods”?
    
    The stormwater grate was off just up from us in our street – modest to nice neighbourhood. Seems the silly old fart up the road did it. Dropped his keys in. Nice bloke – about your age – retired, white…… left it off too. Lucky none of his grandkids fell in aye.
    
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    June 6, 2017 7:41pm
    - nasska
      
      ….”Lucky none of his grandkids fell in aye.”…..
      
      Definitely but it wouldn’t have worried local community leader Lemauga Lydia Sosene. She reckons that Maori & PI parents & kids need stormwater lessons.
      
      Palagi or pakeha don’t matter apparently.
      
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      June 6, 2017 7:49pm
      - sam green
        
        I think if one of them did fall in there’d be people wanting some awareness teaching about drains down at the local primary school. You’d be wanting him had up for manslaughter too I guess.
        
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        June 6, 2017 7:57pm
      - GoVege
        
        Pakeha already have safety awareness dinned into them.
        Who do you think invented the seatbelt?
        In Pacific countries, the cars don’t even HAVE seat belts.
        In any case, they all believe God is watching over them….so they don’t need to worry.
        
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        June 6, 2017 8:41pm
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        That must have been a huge stormwater drain cover if a 17 year old Pacific Island woman could fit in it.
        
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        June 6, 2017 10:33pm
      - starboard
        
        Awareness training lol, how about using ya fucking eyes. Typical hand-wringers approach.
        
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        June 7, 2017 3:28am
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      “Nice bloke – about your age – retired, white…… ”
      
      You obviously have no idea how old I am.
      Couple this with your comment about me living in Huntly a while back and I have to wonder about your intuition.
      
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      June 6, 2017 7:59pm
      - sam green
        
        Don’t worry. I’m sure you don’t live in Huntly.
        
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        June 6, 2017 8:08pm
    - fernglas
      
      It´s “eh?”, not fucking “aye”. “Eh?” is asking a question, “aye” is signifying agreement, as in “aye aye captain”
      
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      June 7, 2017 2:35am
rightoverlabour

This is well written ( saw it on WO)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4571882/We-war-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html

About time these sentiments are expressed here before the body count starts.
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June 6, 2017 7:50pm
Jack5

How despicable, history-rewriting PC Leftists destroy a fine museum:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/the-newly-refurbished-national-army-museum-is-full-of-inaccuracies-and-post-colonial-guilt/
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June 6, 2017 7:50pm
- mikenmild
  
  ‘Andrew Roberts is the author of an admiring biography of Napoleon’.
  LOL
  Someone worshipping the mass murdering Corsican megalomaniac would probably find lots wrong with everything today…
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:41pm
  - Jack5
    
    Napoleon was a helluva lot more than a “mass murdering Corsican megalomaniac.”
    
    From the Guardian review of the Roberts biography of Napoleon:
    
    It is a book that sets out for a new generation exactly why he mattered and will continue to matter so long as people argue about faith, and property, and kings, and the future of Europe.
    
    This is from the New York Times review of the Roberts biography:
    
    By the time he was crowned emperor on Dec. 2, 1804, he [Napoleon] could say, “I am the Revolution.” It was, according to the historian Andrew Roberts’s epically scaled new biography, “Napoleon: A Life,” both the ultimate triumph of the self-made man, an outsider from Corsica who rose to the apex of French political life, and simultaneously a “defining moment of the Enlightenment,” fixing the “best” of the French Revolution through his legal, educational and administrative reforms.
    
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    June 6, 2017 8:56pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Millions dead across Europe for France to eventually be smacked back to its pre-Napoleon borders. Not until Hitler would one man bring so much carnage to the continent.
      
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      June 6, 2017 9:17pm
      - Jack5
        
        But I bet you think the French Revolution was fine, Milky. If so, you should acknowledge that Napoleon spread its “ideals” through Europe.
        
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        June 6, 2017 9:47pm
Harriet

Mark Steyn in fine form – again:

“…..After Manchester, Mrs May raised the official “Threat Level” from Mildly Perturbed to Somewhat Disturbed or whatever it was, and in order further to reassure the public put soldiers on London’s streets. Soldiers aren’t really much use at stopping homicidal car drivers or random stabbers. To do that, you’d have to ban motor vehicles and sharp knives, which, given the fecklessness and decadence of Europe’s political class, I wouldn’t entirely rule out. Absent that, it’s unfortunate that the London carnage occurred before Katy Perry, Justin Bieber & Co had had a chance to hold their stupid, useless, poor-taste all-you-need-is-sentimentalist-delusional-crap pop concert for the victims of the Manchester carnage. Maybe they’ll cancel it, or maybe they’ll make it a twofer.
Meanwhile, even as the politicians trot out the rote response that these attacks “won’t change us”, everything changes: more armed police, more soldiers, more bollards, more security checks – and smaller lives, fewer liberties, less free speech. London Bridge still stands, but everything else is falling down, in Britain and Europe.
In Australia in recent days there has been some controversy over a Quadrant editor’s response to the obnoxious remarks of someone on the ABC’s Q&A panel that an American has more chance of being killed by a falling refrigerator than by terrorists. This happens not to be true. As far as I can tell, the only source of this bon mot is a US Consumer Product Safety Commission report that found that, between January 2000 and December 2011, toppling television sets, furniture, refrigerators and all other domestic appliances killed a total of 349 Americans – or 29 people per year.
For purposes of comparison, in Britain Islamic terrorists have just killed 28 people in 12 days. [SUNDAY MORNING UPDATE: it’s now 29.] More to the point, your refrigerator is not trying to kill you, and not eternally seeking new ways to do so. You don’t have to worry about your fridge getting hold of an automatic weapon, or a dirty nuke. The Islamic supremacists want to kill as many infidels by whatever means are to hand. Nor are statistics relevant: If you’ve lost your only child because she went to an Ariana Grande concert, that’s 100 per cent of your kids who are dead. When it comes to deceased loved ones, the only statistical pool that counts is your family, not the nation or the planet…..”

https://billmuehlenberg.com/2017/06/06/western-leaders-allowing-terror-appeasing-terrorists/#comment-375752
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- starboard
  
  Englands fucked, no amount of singing kumbayas or wailing Beibers gona stop them crazy muslims.
  
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  June 7, 2017 3:22am
Jack5

With less than 48 hours until voting begins, a new poll indicates May’s lead over Corbyn has shrunk to one point, reports the Telegraph.

The Tories were 24 points ahead of Corbyn’s party when the election was called but the polls have tightened in recent weeks.

The new survey is by Survation for Good Morning Britain. It puts the Conservatives on 41 per cent and Labour on 40.
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- All_on_Red
  
  God help them if Labour get in. Watch this interview with Diane Abbott- the Shadow Home Secretary. Just hopeless.
  https://order-order.com/2017/06/05/diane-abbott-car-crash-clueless-about-terror-report/
  
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  June 6, 2017 8:51pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Conservative landslide then all the libtards walking in slow circles complaining “but the polls”
  
  Fuck Off Corbyn
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:20pm
nasska

Quick everyone! Post “praying for London” on your facebook page. It’s the only way we can stop these terrorists!
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June 6, 2017 8:56pm
- sooty
  
  That’ll fixum real quick!
  
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  June 6, 2017 9:10pm
Jack5

Whine, whine, whine …

The protesters against the visit of the American Secretary of State are whining about the police photographing them.

Yet these same protesters were demonstrating chiefly to get their faces on TV news.

Surely, they can’t seriously be upset about police also taking pictures?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/93378987/why-were-police-taking-photos-of-a-peaceful-lawful-protest-in-wellington
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June 6, 2017 9:55pm
Jack5

Tony Blair’s mad sister-in-law, a convert to Islam, claims drugs, not religion, are causing jihadi terrorism.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4573290/Lauren-Booth-claims-DRUGS-not-Islam-blame.html
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June 6, 2017 10:09pm
starboard

https://i.stuff.co.nz/auckland/93382800/glen-innes-tenant-niki-rauti-in-lock-down-after-court-rules-she-must-leave-home.

Entitleitis much… pack ya bag and fuck off. 30 years, how did she manage to stay there for 30 years !!
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June 7, 2017 3:23am
Manolo

Today’s Europe:
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/06/former-islamic-extremist-london-terror-attack-radical-islamic-extremism
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June 7, 2017 6:26am
Inandout

Winston’s statements on Muslims has upset our politicians, even that Act leader Seemore. The idiots think we will still vote for them when they forsake us.
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