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American Physical Society
https://www.aps.org/policy/statements/07_1.cfm
(Adopted by Council on November 18, 2007 and reaffirmed 2008)

“Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate. Greenhouse gases include carbon dioxide as well as methane, nitrous oxide and other gases. They are emitted from fossil fuel combustion and a range of industrial and agricultural processes.

The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring.

If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now.”

Note
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/physicists-battle-over-the-meaning-of-incontrovertible-in-global-warming-fight/
Due to protests by profs Curry, Christy, Lindzen and other deniers, the word “incontrovertible” was removed.

After all, a fifth fundamental force might be found, that turns physics on its head. Not by any of that lot, Christy’s satellite work at UAH is corrected repeatedly for serious errors, and Curry’s catch cry is, “We don’t know” – having backed Christy’s shonky record. Lindzen is still looking for a magic wand.

APS 2015 draft statement:
“Earth’s changing climate is a critical issue that poses the risk of significant disruption around the globe. While natural sources of climate variability are significant, multiple lines of evidence indicate that human influences have had an increasingly dominant effect on the climate warming observed since the mid-twentieth century. Although the magnitudes of future effects are uncertain, human influences on the climate are growing. The potential consequences of climate change are great and the policies of the next few decades will determine human influences on the climate for centuries.”

Or it could just be a psychological problem: deniers are delusional.

If you know more science than some 30,000 publishing climate scientists and the global community of scientists, as represented by the Royal Society, American Association for the Advancement of Science, National Academy of Sciences, American Physical Society, American Chemical Society etc etc etc … please tick the right box below.
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May 27, 2017 8:00am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  All together now team . . . .
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:01am
- RalphT
  
  I might go back to bed. The day’s already been fucked.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:04am
  - Inandout
    
    I might just add some coal to my log fire.
    
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    May 27, 2017 8:09am
    - stephieboy
      
      Inandout , and sniff/ snort the fumes ?
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:40am
- cmm
  
  List of delusional people:
  1)1970s Peak Oil deniers.
  2)1970s Global Famine deniers.
  3) 1970s Ice Age deniers.
  4) Y2K deniers.
  5) Flying car deniers.
  6) People who thought there would still be product branding in the 21st century.
  7) Communism deniers.
  8) Humans would be extinct by 1999 deniers.
  9) Humans would be extinct by 2000 deniers.
  10) Humans would be extinct by 2005deniers.
  11) Humans would be extinct by 2015 deniers.
  12) Bees will die out by 2016 deniers.
  13) Robots will take of the earth by 1980 deniers.
  14) Robots will take of the earth by 1990 deniers.
  15) Robots will take of the earth by 2000 deniers.
  16) Anthrax will scape from a lab and kill us all deniers.
  17) SARS will escape from a lab and kill us all deniers.
  18) nano particles will escape from a lab and kill us all deniers.
  
  …
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:16am
  - mikenmild
    
    And cmm…
    
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    May 27, 2017 9:11am
    - cmm
      
      mm: I’m a proud denier since the 1990s.
      
      I’d wear that tshirt.
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:34am
      - mikenmild
        
        Denying all science, or just some?
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:41am
      - cmm
        
        mm: I fucking well AM a scientist!
        
        Got the degrees to prove it.
        
        However I refuse to participate in the troughing industry. I prefer to add value in the free market – where it actually does some good.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:59am
      - mikenmild
        
        Your degree of scientific knowledge makes your denialism all the more disgusting.
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:34am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        You just got ‘owned’ MM.
        
        Feel the buuurrrrrnnnnnn!!!
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:04am
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        >mikenmild
        >Denying all science, or just some?
        
        You mean the way you Progressive dildos deny the science about sex and race differences?
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:09am
      - Peter
        
        “Progressive” is a strange way to describe the left.
        
        There is nothing progressive about the “modern” left. They are regressionists, in most respects. They exhibit a desire to return to the supposed “golden weather” of the 1950s. In the case of the environmentalists, they want to regress to pre-industrial times.
        
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        May 27, 2017 3:34pm
      - kowtow
        
        peter
        
        You have to admit though that the left have been very clever in “appropriating” the term progressive. Aided of course by the media party.
        
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        May 27, 2017 3:49pm
      - cmm
        
        mm: I am only doing what scientists are supposed to do: look at the evidence with an unprejudiced eye.
        
        A few years ago I spoke with a scientist who had just resigned from elsewhere to go work with NIWA. When I asked her what attracted her to Niwa she said she wanted to help prove global warming.
        
        Unfortunately there are far too many people like that in science. Emotion first, science second.
        
        People get upset about me raising the correlation between IQ and ethnicity, but that is much more strongly correlated than what passes for “climate science”.
        
        There are no accurate (and meaningful) historical measurements for temperature, so instead people use various proxies (such as tree ring growth etc). Far too dodgy to make any meaningful extrapolations.
        
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        May 27, 2017 4:17pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    For folks who have jumped on the denier/denialist
    bandwagon…
    https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/words-that-think-for-us-3
    
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    May 27, 2017 11:05am
    - Kea
      
      “words that think for us”
      
      Great phrase. I will use that one 🙂
      
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      May 27, 2017 11:11am
  - Lance
    
    You forgot the CERN’s LHC will create a blackhole and swallow the earth.
    
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    May 27, 2017 4:35pm
- mikenmild
  
  William vs the science deniers, episode 113.
  Unfortunately, psychologists have discovered that irrational beliefs, such as climate change denial, are in fact only likely to harden in the face of evidence and reasoned argument, so William is actually wasting his time.
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:22am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    would they be the same psychologists that support the racist evolutionary psychologist whose theory you were peddling here on KB a few days back?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kanazawa
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:16am
    - mikenmild
      
      Wasn’t peddling any theory, as you know, Maggy. I just pointed to a report that a meta-analysis found a correlation between low intelligence and religious belief.
      But keep peddling that straw man.
      
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      May 27, 2017 10:35am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        No mikenmild,
        
        you constantly put up psychobabble here that differs not a jot from pre-Nazi Eugenics, so beloved of your socialists.
        
        It’s just that you can’t see the crap amongst all that erudite faux-scientific jargon.
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:40am
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        “meta-analysis found a correlation between low intelligence and religious belief.”
        
        Really, so the godless atheists who reduced Russia and Eastern Europe to impoverished totalitarian hell holes were smart?
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:11am
      - Kea
        
        milky what about the science that proves conclusively that some races have lower IQ’s ?
        
        Do you deny it ?
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:14am
      - Kea
        
        “the godless atheists who reduced Russia and Eastern Europe to impoverished totalitarian hell holes were smart?”
        
        No they were Jewish. Soviet communism was started by Jewish intellectuals. Eventually the monster turned on them.
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:15am
      - Lance
        
        Utter revisionist crap
        Tsarist Russia was a living hell for everyone except for the ruling elite. Jews were especially set upon by the bastards that ruled.
        Oh shock horror, they helped overthrow them.
        
        Unfortunately for Russia the Bolsheviks ended up in power after the shake down. They were more rat cunning and murderous than the others.
        
        To say it again, the monarchy and military were murderous pieces of shit. The love of God did not flow from them to the populace.
        
        I am sure there was a much better way this revolution could have happened but the ruling elite were only going to allow it over their dead bodies……
        
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        May 27, 2017 4:49pm
      - Kea
        
        “Jews were especially set upon by the bastards that ruled.”
        
        Yes they were. You simply gave the reasons that support my claim that you describe as “Utter revisionist crap” ! Talk about an own goal.
        
        So you are lying about history to try and protect the Jews. That marks you as a religious nut job. The Jews started the communist movement in Russia just like you said. That movement was the most murderous oppressive regime in history. And way way more people died in their death camps than Hitler meager efforts.
        
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        May 27, 2017 4:58pm
      - Lance
        
        Trolls will be trolls
        
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        May 28, 2017 12:13am
  - Peter
    
    William is definitely wasting his time.
    
    We just don’t require people to repeat environmental political agendas.
    
    Perhaps he could find an audience elsewhere who are actually into those stories?
    
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    May 27, 2017 11:00am
    - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
      
      “Perhaps he could find an audience elsewhere who are actually into those stories?”
      
      Alcoholic lesbian feminist support group on uni campus – hosted by Lizzie Marvelly?
      
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      May 27, 2017 11:14am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Oh trust me, he’s got an audience across quite a few blog sites..
      http://www.climateconversation.org.nz/
      He’s a regular on Climateconversation (under Dennis Horne )
      
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      May 27, 2017 12:44pm
      - Kea
        
        Maggy, hilarious LOL 🙂
        These warmists are lunatics. How about this bit of “science”. Its the evil “Russians” behind it 🙂
        
        From your link:
        
        Dennis’ comment was specifically aimed at Climategate
        
        There are claims that the hacks/leaks were Russian in origin.
        
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        May 27, 2017 12:49pm
Paulus Gnome

I clicked on an article about Rohan Lord, the new centre fold for white middle class men in New Zealand, in the award winning auckland chip wrapper.

I realised it was written by some naff warbler ànd did the proper thing and exited the page before I did any permanent damage to my eyes and stoic temperament.

Can some brave soul take one for the team and provide a synopsis so I can read on with something important like reading why we ratepayers are going to spend $10 million on fairy lights for the bridge
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May 27, 2017 8:08am
- B.L.Zeebub
  
  Honkies be bad mofos, `specially middle-aged white mofos that built the world that that useless trust-fund baby enjoys.
  You`re welcome.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:25am
- SteveRemmington
  
  Had a quick gander. My synopsis would be:
  
  If David Seymour is in fact correct that all the French people love Le Coq. Then I don’t think the author of that particular opinion piece is French.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:26am
- VicParking
  
  On a smaller scale Whanganui has now had three attempts to put lights on one of its bridges. No business plan just a madcap idea of a councillor.
  First try the lights were put in the wrong place and could not be seen. Second try, lights moved but were not bright enough. Third try, LED. Both in wrong place and can not be seem. Nobody has come forward to sponsor said lights so council is footing the bill. Go for it GoffLand $10m is chicken feed.
  Take it out of the half billion we poor sods south of the Bombays have just given you.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:38am
- KevinH
  
  Sydney is putting on the Vivid lights spectacular from 26 May to 17 June. It is a celebration of art and culture and as the name suggests a spectacular light display on Sydney Harbour Bridge as well as light displays projected onto historic buildings in the c.b.d..
  The Vivid Lights show energizes the city during winter and is a veritable smorgasbord of cultural events, shows, concerts etc and is a draw card for domestic and international tourists.
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:19am
  - Adolf Fiinkensein
    
    That’s why Australia is stony broke while NZ prospers.
    
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    May 27, 2017 11:45am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Took the family last year. It is awesome
    
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    May 27, 2017 3:19pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    We’ve been to Sydney twice for Vivid, and it’s a fantastic promotion. The crowds down around Circular Quay and Darling Harbour are massive, and there’s a fantastic vibe around the place.
    
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    May 27, 2017 5:20pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I get the impression that Rohan Lord sees the world as a dichotomy between oppressor and oppressed groups.
  Am I on to something?
  
  He stands proud, like a lighthouse virtue-signalling to the storms of identity politics…
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:03am
Viking2

Its raining again.
The old democrat that is Hillary is trying like Christ to rise again.
The euro Nato beneficiaries are behaving like slighted snobs.

And its all Trumps fault?
Like beneficiaries everywhere.
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May 27, 2017 8:12am
Huevon

Greater Manchester Police reported 56 “hate crimes” on Wednesday. The follows 28 on Monday.

Good. Very good

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/manchester-arena-bombing-salman-abedi-latest-updates/
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May 27, 2017 8:13am
- cmm
  
  Just as Germans needed to take some of the blame for Hitler, and white South Africans needed to take some of the blame for apartheid, so too mush moderate Muslims take some of the blame for Manchester and other acts of Islam.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:19am
  - EAD
    
    @ cmm,
    
    you make it sound like Hitler and apartheid in South Africa were unquestionably horrendous things.
    
    I think you’d find most Germans and non-current productive South Africans would prefer their former regimes.
    
    But then again, it’s hard to argue to against someone like yourself who has been force fed propoaganda that has lionised the criminal Mandela as a God and demonised Hitler as the ultimate evil.
    
    Here is Savant putting Mandela hysteria into perspective:
    
    http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2013/12/explaining-hysteria.html?m=0
    
    Excerpt:
    
    Having said all of that he was, or should be, a minor world figure. Yes, he ‘inspired’ his movement from prison, was ultimately successful and held the position of President for a few years. In terms of global importance his country would realistically be ranked mid-range, about the same as say Algeria or Roumania. Now can you imagine the global reaction to the death of one of their Presidents? A few lines on the back page. Or let’s take Presidents with colossal geopolitical achievements, such as Michael Gorbachev, who oversaw the collapse of the Second World, or Helmut Kohl who rammed through German reunification. Compare those achievements to that of Mandela who, in effect, lead the majority in a sometimes violent rebellion against a tiny and ultimately doomed minority in a country of little global importance.
    
    Realistically he didn’t achieve a lot more than did ben Bella in Algeria or even Mugabe in Southern Rhodesia . But you’d never think that from the MSM in the west. I don’t need to rub your noses in it anymore. But to take just a single example, the front page of the Irish Times yesterday had the paper’s logo at the top, while every other single pixel went to make up a giant picture of Mandela (whom many of the cringing and slobbering madia have now taken to calling -excruciatingly – Madeba.) Suffice to say I have never – ever – seen such blanket hagiographical coverage, not even for JFK.
    
    All for the leader of a rebellion in a faraway country of modest importance.
    
    The whole treatment bears an uncanny resonance with that of the Peace Prize Laureate himself, you know the one who starts undeclared wars and makes a list of people to be killed at the beginning of each week. I remember when he burst on the scene on the basis of his speech to the Democratic National Convention. Now I’m not looking at this with hindsight but I really did think at the time ‘ok the guy made a good speech. So what?
    
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    May 27, 2017 8:30am
    - cmm
      
      I’m just talking about the extreme stuff here:
      
      concentration camps, government sponsored death squads etc.
      
      Sure, Hitler and apartheid had huge benefits too. Many blacks in South Africa would like to see a return to the prosperity and safety of the 1980s.
      
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      May 27, 2017 8:54am
      - mikenmild
        
        I’m interested in hearing more about the ‘benefits’ of Nazism and apartheid.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:12am
      - cmm
        
        mm: I have never been to Germany, but all I can do is tell of a German Jewish friend I had who died a few years ago. Although he and his family fled Germany in the late 1930s, he said Hitler was a great leader who did a lot for the Germans. I must say I was stunned that he had positive things to say. He said that except for what he termed “the Jewish stuff”, many Jewish people supported Hitler too – especially during the pre-war rise.
        
        As for apartheid. As you know, I lived there. There is now more poverty, corruption, violence and crime than during apartheid. Many black people would rather go back to apartheid and have what they had then. Sure, they have a vote now, but you can’t eat a vote and it doesn’t keep you safe.
        
        I’m not at all saying that either were unicorns and roses, just that they had their upsides too.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:30am
      - mikenmild
        
        I’m not sure any of that actually amounts to anything positive about Nazism or apartheid.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:32am
      - EAD
        
        @ cmm,
        
        tell me more about these government “death squads” – I’ve never heard of them?
        
        ‘re concentration camps – do you mean internment camps like the British had for Germans & Italians and USA had for Japanese?
        
        Let’s not forget who declared war on who first:
        
        https://www.cwporter.com/jewsdeclarewar.jpg
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:43am
      - mikenmild
        
        I think that by ‘concentration camps’, he was talking about the Nazi extermination centres like Auschwitz and Treblinka, etc, rather than simply imprisoning people.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:47am
      - EAD
        
        “extermination centres”
        
        Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight…………..
        
        Amazing how there were millions of survivors from these “extermination centres”, run by the world’s most efficient nation of people.
        
        They obviously weren’t very good at “exterminating” were they MM? The Juedo-Bolsheviks on the other hand……
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:00am
      - mikenmild
        
        No, the Nazis only managed to murder about 6 million Jews, so, no doubt to your regret, many millions survived.
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:38am
    - mikenmild
      
      There is no evidence that Germans would prefer life to be as it was under the Nazis. That’s just EAD’s fantasy.
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:03am
      - EAD
        
        I think they would Mikenmild – that is of course, the real Hitler, I.e. the one Churchill admired before all of the war propaganda begun. Here is Churchill in 1937:
        
        One may dislike Hitler’s system and yet admire his patriotic achievement. If our country were defeated, I hope we should find a champion as admirable to restore our courage and lead us back to our place among the nations.”
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:36am
      - mikenmild
        
        Another Churchill quote? A genuine one this time?
        What about ‘butchering the wrong pig’?
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:43am
  - SGA
    
    cmm
    
    Just as Germans needed to take some of the blame for Hitler, and white South Africans needed to take some of the blame for apartheid, so too mush moderate Muslims take some of the blame for Manchester and other acts of Islam.
    
    Yes and no. Your average white SAfrican did get a chance to vote every few years 🙂 .
    Perhaps a better analogy would be your average Italian-American of a couple of generations ago taking some blame for organised crime (or your average Protestant in Northern Island taking some of the blame for the Ulster Defense Association). I imagine that if you were raising a family in communities like that your first priority would be trying to stop your own children becoming disaffected and hanging out with the wrong crowd.
    
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    May 27, 2017 8:50am
    - VicParking
      
      Who’s going to take the blame when the Loins beat the All Black…. Yea.
      
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      May 27, 2017 8:55am
      - SGA
        
        Aaron Smith has enough experience with Loins to see us through 🙂
        
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        May 27, 2017 8:57am
      - B.L.Zeebub
        
        It`s gonna be loin of lion well-done when the ABs get thru with them.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:20am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        John Key will get the blame, how soon you forget
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:27am
    - cmm
      
      Voting is a choice, as is belonging to a religion and paying money to support that religion.
      
      I grew up in apartheid South Africa. I never voted for the apartheid government. I did not know of the secret state-sponsored death squads etc. I spoke out against racism etc. But hey, I’m on the hook for some of apartheid.
      
      Moderate Muslims go to mosques. They hear stuff, they know stuff is going on, they pay money to support the Mosque. 20-30% support the idea of Sharia law in Uk. They do very little to stand up and say that the extreme stuff is unacceptable.
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:02am
      - SGA
        
        Voting is a choice, as is belonging to a religion and paying money to support that religion.
        
        Belonging to a political party has parallels with a religion perhaps, but voting – no. Plenty of people have no strong allegiances and switch their votes around each election. Most people don’t switch religions that way.
        Add – my comment about SA and voting was in terms of the average white SA, not you in particular.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:07am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      twice as many died in post-apartheid tribal political violence 1990-1994 as did in the previous 46 years at the hands of the apartheid govt.
      
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      May 27, 2017 12:19pm
- kowtow
  
  He added: “I have sent a personal message out to all the faith leaders and places of worship today and have thanked them for the support they have shown and stressed that hate crime will not be tolerated.”
  
  That’s the problem with so called “hate” crimes. They are political creations of the permanent elites and show their priorities are their own. If “gate’ crimes won’t be “tolerated” (another mealy mouthed” word , then which crimes will be.
  
  Surely a crime is a crime and should be prioritised and investigated based on its seriousness , not on its motive.
  
  We have a situation here in Aotearoa , formerly New Zealand ,where Chief Plod couldn’t be arsed about your house being burgled but wanted the introduction of “hate” crime.
  
  PC rubbish .
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:33am
- Inandout
  
  ‘Chief constable Ian Hopkins said: “Whilst we can’t directly link this to the events of Monday night, we are continuing to monitor the situation and support our communities.”
  
  “Manchester has come together this week, the public has seen that, they have seen that compassion.
  
  “But it is important that we continue to stand together here, in Greater Manchester.
  
  “Particularly standing together against some of the hateful views that we have seen from a very small minority of the community that have no place here in Greater Manchester.”
  
  He added: “I have sent a personal message out to all the faith leaders and places of worship today and have thanked them for the support they have shown and stressed that hate crime will not be tolerated.”
  
  For years the Muslims have been screaming hate against the Manchester people, and no police action has ever been taken. That Chief Constable needs to side with the long suffering infidels and stop speaking such PC crap. I would not be surprised if the present manhunt is eventually scaled back, because it appears half of Manchester Muslims have been involved.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:41am
- G152
  
  About time they put two and two together and shipped the muslims out to any muslim country they can
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:01am
  - Paulus
    
    Germany, Canada or France would be the best places to ship these people out.
    
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    May 27, 2017 11:22am
duggledog

William

Over-population and pollution are humanity’s greatest challenges.

We’ll adapt to climate change. Always have.

Grow up and think logically
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May 27, 2017 8:15am
- VicParking
  
  Correct.
  It rains today, not tomorrow
  Its cold today, warm tomorrow
  We are still on the earth and reproducing in greater numbers than ever.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:42am
Manolo

Beware: the barbarians are fasting.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3658061/isis-tells-followers-terror-attack-ramadan-start-manchester-bombing/

ISIS has issued a chilling instruction to its followers to launch an “all-out war” on the West to mark the start of Ramadan tomorrow.

European security services are said to be bracing for more attacks during the Muslim holy month as ISIS’s followers are urged to attack “infidels” in the wake of Monday’s Manchester bomb attack.
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May 27, 2017 8:17am
- Inandout
  
  In any other era in the world’s history that kind of threat would mean war.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:29am
  - mikenmild
    
    We already have a ‘War on Terror’, now in its 15th year…
    
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    May 27, 2017 9:35am
    - Viking2
      
      Got one on drugs too. BUT, this today. A bit of a chink in the brain bought about by election fever.
      
      Imagine a New Zealand where you could have any drug, without fear of running into trouble with the law.
      
      It’s not as far-fetched as it sounds, although it’s hard to believe that Peter Dunne – the mild-mannered, bowtie-wearing associate health minister – could be the one pushing for it.
      
      Our current law isn’t stopping New Zealanders from using drugs.
      
      ( fuck him we have been saying this for 30 years.)(slow learners some of these elected people.)
      
      For some time now, Dunne’s been talking up the merits of Portugal’s drug laws, where every drug is decriminalised – albeit with a caveat: If you’re caught with less than 10 days of any drug – cannabis, heroin, methamphetamine, or anything in between – you won’t be prosecuted. Instead, you’ll be fined or sent to treatment.
      
      “The sky doesn’t fall in when you do a Portugal-style reform,” executive director Ross Bell says.
      
      “Decriminalise all drugs, stop it from being a law enforcement issue, make it a health issue and invest in health. We should be able to do this by 2020.”
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/92763246/peter-dunne-says-class-c-drugs-like-cannabis-should-be-made-legal-and-regulated
      
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      May 27, 2017 3:42pm
- VicParking
  
  Want a bet the Stickman is advertsing “Pork Week” on Monday. Have stocked up already, pulled pork Monday, roast with crackling Tuesday, Bacon Hooks Wednesday, pork fry and bacon Thursday and Pork belly Friday. Heart attack Saturday. mmmmmmmmm.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:50am
  - GazzaW
    
    How about really capping it off with a daily helping of black pudding (pig’s intestine filled with pig’s blood & fat) served up with some pig’s head brawn.
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:03am
    - VicParking
      
      Thanks Gaz off to the butchers.
      
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      May 27, 2017 11:17am
      - Adolf Fiinkensein
        
        Why not go the whole hog and get hold of some good ole Southern US of A ‘chitlins’?
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:54am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I bought a nice pork shoulder roast at the market this morning Vic. Will do dinner tonight, cold meat tomorrow and pork sandwiches Monday and Tuesday. I also have a 900g pack of bacon in the fridge that needs eating this week 😎
    
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    May 27, 2017 12:35pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Sky-fairy festivals are such fun, aren’t they?
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:46am
- Peter
  
  So appeasing Islam and “making love hearts at the sky” continues to work a treat, then.
  
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  May 27, 2017 11:15am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Jihadis all a bit hangry due to Ramadan
  
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  May 27, 2017 12:20pm
kowtow

I won’t hold my breath waiting for national monuments to be lit up in Egyptian colours, for a hashtag storm or for any rallies, these are Copts in Egypt and will barely get a look in.
Meanwhile western governments will continue to import the danger.
Religion of peace?

” At least 28 people including children are dead and injured 25 after masked gunmen opened fire on buses carrying Coptic Christians in Egypt, it has emerged.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4544554/23-shot-dead-bus-carrying-Coptic-Christians-Egypt.html
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May 27, 2017 8:20am
- VicParking
  
  But its different when it happens in the East.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:58am
  - kowtow
    
    Yep. Last night our national tv broadcaster of merit mentioned ,briefly,an Islam terror news from Indonesia but failed to cover the occupation of a city in the Philippines.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/26/they-kill-defenceless-people-thousands-flee-besieged-philippine-city-of-marawi
    
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    May 27, 2017 9:05am
- Viking2
  
  The Muslims there have been a problem for a long time but only more of a nuisance.
  Duerte has a lot of support and this is his home Island. He has made it clear if you want a fight with me you will die. No fucking about.
  Cleaned up a lot of drug dealers that way.
  
  Tough nut he is.
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:24am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The jihadi terrorists are coming from other SE Asian countries to support the Phillipine ISIL.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/809566/ISIS-Philippines-Marawi-Malaysia-Indonesia-Philippines
    
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    May 27, 2017 9:44am
    - GazzaW
      
      They might just be biting off a little more than they can chew should the PRC decide to ‘stabilise’ the region given their intent to turn the South China Sea into a Chinese sphere of influence. The PLA has scant regard for those who threaten the Motherland. There could only be one winner.
      
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      May 27, 2017 10:11am
    - Southern Raider
      
      Could be a good tactic.
      
      Get all the SE Asian Muslim jihadists to come to one Philippines beach and then bomb the fuck out of them
      
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      May 27, 2017 3:29pm
- Southern Raider
  
  It was only Christians. They are only slightly above Jews on the left wing totem pole.
  
  Right at the top is trans gender and Muslims. These are the only people worthy of feeling sorry for
  
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  May 27, 2017 3:27pm
Nukuleka

28 Coptic Christians have been slaughtered in a bus attack in Egypt. No doubt Andy Burnham, the former Labour front bencher, aspirant leader of the British Labour Party (beaten to it by Jeremy Corbyn) and now Mayor of Manchester will be telling us that they should not be called ‘Christians’ but simply ‘victims’, that the the perpetrators should not be called ‘Muslims’ but ‘terrorists’ and that anyone who calls for more action to be taken to prevent this type of ‘incident’ should be prosecuted for ‘hate crimes’.

Another verse of ‘Kumbaya’, anyone?
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May 27, 2017 8:27am
simpleton1

Channel 4 Manchester Bombing Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfrOZj6EBRI
9m 18 sec,
It was pulled from channel 4 and reposted on Utube.

From 8m 10sec to the end it will become apparent what the designs are. Just unbelievable.

Perhaps we should show up with a support captioned shirt which says:
“Don’t worry, my Muslim-born fellow citizens. We can protect you!”
Placed below a picture of a bomber circling Mecca.
Or a picture of a burning mosque.
Pic of a car with strewn bodies in its wake.

That will show we do worry about a back lash and that we do look out for their welfare and are peace loving people, and sing Kumbaya
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May 27, 2017 8:33am
Reid

What the world lost.

The assassination of President Kennedy was an enormous cost to the world. Kennedy and Khrushchev would have followed up their collaboration in defusing the Cuban Missile Crisis by ending the Cold War long before the military/security complex achieved its iron grip on the US government. Israel would have been denied nuclear weapons, and the designation of the Israel Lobby as a foreign agent would have prevented Israel’s strong grip on the US government. In his second term, JFK would have broken the CIA into a thousand pieces, an intention he expressed to his brother, Robert, and the Deep State would have been terminated before it became more powerful than the President.

But the military/security complex struck first, and pulled off a coup that voided all these promises and terminated American democracy.

And if Trump continues, will they do it again?

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/05/24/jfk-100-paul-craig-roberts/
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May 27, 2017 8:35am
- mikenmild
  
  Would he have released the truth about the 1947 Roswell UFO, ended the war in Vietnam, and smashed the Federal Reserve too?
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:08am
  - Reid
    
    He was killed a few days after he announced a withdrawel of the “advisers” then in Vietnam and a few days after he promulgated Executive Order 11110 which aimed to strip the Fed of its power to print money and some time after he threatened to “scatter the CIA to the four winds” and a few days after he had a tense conversation with Golda Meir over Israel’s nuclear program.
    
    So a lot of powerful players had a lot of reasons to get rid of him mm.
    
    Didn’t they.
    
    Clearly you’re terrifically ignorant about the incident, perhaps you should do some research on it, if you’re interested in understanding it. If you’re not interested in understanding it then you probably shouldn’t bother commenting on it.
    
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    May 27, 2017 9:29am
    - mikenmild
      
      Kennedy on Vietnam:
      “These people who say we ought to withdraw from Vietnam are totally wrong, because if we withdrew from Vietnam, the communists would control… all of Southeast Asia… then India, Burma would be next.”
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:39am
      - Reid
        
        I told you you were terrifically ignorant on this mm. Now you’ve just gone and proven it. What a surprise.
        
        http://bostonreview.net/us/galbraith-exit-strategy-vietnam
        
        https://www.thenation.com/article/jfks-vietnam-withdrawal-plan-fact-not-speculation/
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:54am
    - EAD
      
      Kennedy – one of the greatest 4 men in history who tried to save the world from slavery:
      
      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7xD0tjBUXlI/hqdefault.jpg
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:46am
      - BeeSting
        
        Absolutely Right
        
        ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE GREATEST
        
        But he was one of Many
        
        Descended from the Dalcassian Knights who
        stopped the Pagan Norse Funded by ISLAM
        to Collect Slaves IN THEIR TRACKS
        
        They saved the World From Slavery Once
        they will do it again.
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalcassians
        
        The Claíomh Solais
        
        The Sword of Light Still Shines
        
        We know who you are
        
        WE KNOW WHAT YOU STAND FOR
        
        WE WILL NEVER BE YOUR SLAVES
        
        TRUST ME ON THAT
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:36pm
- wiseowl
  
  Trumpy has not agreed to the Paris Climate extortion.
  Good job.
  There has been little comment in NZ about the supposed $1.4 billion a year the government have signed us up for.
  Time to stand up against this scam.
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:18am
Happychappy

Winston Peter’s up to his same Racial Bullshit again saying Chinese have purchased land at a Auckland Golf Course with out being able to prove that his story is correct. The same theme from Winston when the budget has taken the air out of the oppositions sails make a story up of the Chinese and their land grab.
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May 27, 2017 8:49am
- SteveRemmington
  
  You wait till he hears that the local Chinese Anglicans are stumping up the shortfall of $54m for a share in the Christchurch cathedral.
  
  He’s gonna go postal!
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:59am
- Paulus
  
  To Winston the difference between fact and fiction are blurred.
  The media will swallow anything he says.
  
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  May 27, 2017 11:25am
lastmanstanding

Fact is so called hate crimes are me not agreeing with the terrorist supporting Left.

Well Lefties I say you support the terrorists by your mealy mouthed soft cock hand wringing excusing them like

We have to understand them

They are a victim of white middle class male oppression

We have gone to war with their countries for no reason so deserve this ( Corbyn said this a few days ago go to the Daily Mail its all there)

Etc etc etc
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May 27, 2017 9:01am
artemisia

The UK needs the equivalent of the US Patriot Act. Just to balance out the wet bus tickets.
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May 27, 2017 9:03am
- mikenmild
  
  What particular features of the Patriot Act do you feel are required in the UK?
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:09am
  - SteveRemmington
    
    It’s all in the name Mike
    
    Providing
    Appropriate
    Tools
    Required to
    Intercept and
    Obstruct
    Terrorism
    
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    May 27, 2017 9:12am
    - mikenmild
      
      Oh, so an acronym is the most important bit about the law?
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:14am
      - SteveRemmington
        
        You asked what particular features are required. I gave it to you.
        
        Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:20am
      - Reid
        
        Shame its unconstitutional isn’t it.
        
        Perhaps you think the Constitution is irrelevant?
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:23am
      - mikenmild
        
        Di it do any of that and, if it did, were the consequent erosion of civil liberties worth it.
        But I was more interested in whether artemsia had any specific ideas about what features of US law enforcement enabled by the Patriot Act were no required in the UK, which already has very sweeping anti-terrorism laws.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:27am
      - calendar girl
        
        “……. in the UK, which already has very sweeping anti-terrorism laws.”
        
        Yes it does, mm. But from what we have learned already through media reports of multiple warnings provided to UK security authorities about the ‘radicalisation’ of Salman Abedi, and the nature of some of his contacts, those anti-terrorism laws – probably their implementation in the main – need urgent review.
        
        So let me make a personal prediction. Within weeks, at worst, British security forces will be expected to take a much less optimistic view of potential security risks that come to their attention – basing their scepticism not only on established facts about specific individuals but also taking into account those persons’ demographic and religious characteristics, as well as their known associates at home and abroad.
        
        No longer will it be enough to accept an a priori ‘innocent until proved guilty’ mantra in the period before terrorists unleash their mayhem on unsuspecting citizens. Surveillance of suspects will become much more intense; and if that means a major increase in national security costs, so be it.
        
        Finally, this is not only about the UK. To a greater or lesser degree, the entire western world shares this problem. New Zealand can regard itself as more fortunate than most western nations because of geography, but it is not immune to serious terrorist attacks.
        
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        May 27, 2017 4:43pm
    - Kea
      
      SteveRemmington, when you rant and huff about “terrorism” are you talking about the rogue state of Israel invading neighboring countries and murdering the locals, or about the fact the US averages 76 bombs a day dropped on countries than have never attacked the USA ?
      
      Which is it ?
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:38am
      - SteveRemmington
        
        Happy if you can point out where in today’s post I “rant and huff about terrorism”.
        
        Until then I Can only assume two things.
        
        You’re a bulshit artist and you are ignorant of what I understand to be Kimbo’s Law.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:58am
      - Kea
        
        So no answer then. I expected as much from your type. You reek of BS.
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:48am
Harriet

Drugo Corby flies home today.

That’s all we’ll be getting on the TV for the next few days. Fucken joy.

Anyway, during the week the coroners report came out for the Lindt Café siege.

The new NSW police commissioner said on tv something like this — “We did what has nearly always worked domestically, we contained and negotiated with the kidnapper, but with this being a matter of ‘terrorism’ we will now address the earlier use of snipers!!!!!!”

In other words he’s telling the public —– don’t be surprised if you see us shoot them dead at the first opportunity, and it could be on tv like the lindt siege was.
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May 27, 2017 9:16am
- Viking2
  
  Who cares?
  The world is full of that green plant and its only those that need to beat up others who behave badly by putting people in jail.
  If only it was food eh!
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:27am
Reid

Professor Stehen Cohen is the foremost US expert on Russia and has been since the 80’s.

Here is what he says about US-Russia relations today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-SRa-AN4M
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May 27, 2017 9:19am
Reid

The Saudis and their Wahhabi brethren in Qatar are the root of extremist Takfiri terrorism all over the world. They finance the most radical and brutal groups of conservative Muslim head-choppers. This includes the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the culprits of 9/11, al-Qaeda, ISIS and whatever may be their next incarnation.

The U.S. knows this. Trump knows this. An email Hillary Clinton sent to her election campaign manager John Podesta correctly noted:

[…] the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, [..] are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region.

The Saudi family dictatorship fears the Iranian example of a democratic political system within a Muslim constitutional framework. Iran’s example threatens the justification of al-Saud family rule. Soon after the revolution in Iran the Sauds started a war by proxies against the country. The Iraqi-Iranian war was instigated and financed by Saudi money with the help of the U.S. and British oil interests. When that war failed to defeat Iran the Saudis moved their fight into a sectarian framework. They depict the Iranians as Shia unbelievers who are not real Muslims. They claim that their own Sunni-Wahhabi sect represents a majority view in the Muslim world. This is far from the truth even though Saudi money is doing its best to convert mainstream Sufi-Muslims societies like Indonesia into Wahhabi protectorates. It is funny how “western” analysts repeat the “Sunni majority” claptrap but never point out that Shia Muslims are actually the majority in the relevant Persian Gulf region.

The only sectarian forces in Iraq, Syria, Yemen and other places in the Middle East are ISIS and other Saudi financed “rebels”. The Saudis claim that the Iranians are “terrorists” and “sectarians” only to divert from their own misdeeds. If the Saudis would really want to “combat extremist ideology” they would have to commit suicide. That indeed would solve the problem.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/05/the-orb-wahhabis-and-zionists-urge-trump-to-regime-change-syria-and-to-fight-iran.html#more
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May 27, 2017 9:21am
- Kea
  
  The sheeple are busy impotently down ticking you but reality refuses to change.
  
  The Saudis are the biggest financiers of radical Islamic mosques on the planet. They are at the highest levels of ISIS. It was Saudis who planned, financed and carried out 911.
  
  The reason the US is in bed with them is:
  
  1. Oil.
  2. They hate the same people Israel hates.
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:34am
  - stephieboy
    
    Kea,
    
    1. Oil ? Wrong .The US only imports about 17% ot its energy needs from the Middle East including Saudi Arabia .
    
    ” It was Saudis who planned, financed and carried out 911.”
    
    False ! Many of the hijackers may of come from there but there is no evidence of collusion with them by the Saudi government .
    
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    May 27, 2017 9:51am
    - Kea
      
      stephieboy once again jumping to the defense of the homo hanging, hand chopping, woman whipping, head chopping brutal Sharia law regime of the Saudis that crushes any reformist movement with arms supplied by the USA
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:57am
      - stephieboy
        
        Kea, well it makes our neighbouring Israel look like paradise would you not agrees “
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:03am
      - Kea
        
        Yes Israel is a great wee country. Sadly you won’t be able to visit with being on the terrorist watch list and all that.
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:39am
    - GazzaW
      
      You’re late this morning stephieboy. Did you bring a note from your mum?
      
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      May 27, 2017 10:19am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Or the imam?
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:35am
- stephieboy
  
  Reid , attent to facts not moonofalabma and conpiracy fantasies,
  
  E-mails released by WikiLeaks confirm Hillary Clinton sold weapons to ISIS.
  
  WHAT’S TRUE
  
  In a July 2016 interview, Julian Assange (founder of WikiLeaks) contended that leaked e-mails painted a “rich picture” of Hillary Clinton’s hawkish tendencies with respect to the Libyan intervention and referenced ISIS as the eventual beneficiary of weapons provided for that intervention.
  
  WHAT’S FALSE
  
  No WikiLeaks e-mails confirm that Hillary Clinton directly and knowingly “sold weapons to ISIS.”
  
  As demonstrated in the tweet reproduced in the Example section above, a number of social media users asserted that the newest e-mail leak proved Hillary Clinton had “sold weapons to ISIS.” But finding exactly which e-mails in the dump established that Hillary Clinton had done such a thing proved elusive to those who went looking for them, such as one Quora user:
  
  Where is Hillary Clinton’s new scandal WikiLeaks just revealed about her implication in selling weapons to ISIS and how it was covered up by Obama?
  
  This morning I learned on Russian TV about the Libyan scandal in which Hillary is involved, yet when I search on the internet about her, none of the results in the news section talk about this issue. Why is that, and how will it impact the presidential race?
  
  The confusion stemmed from at least one undated article boasting a headline of “WikiLeaks CONFIRMS Hillary Sold Weapons to ISIS,” which had been published well before the “Podesta Emails” dump was released by WikiLeaks:
  
  Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, is a controversial character. But there’s no denying the emails he has picked up from inside the Democrat Party are real, and he’s willing to expose Hillary Clinton.
  
  Now, he’s announcing that Hillary Clinton and her State Department were actively arming Islamic jihadists, which includes the Islamic State (ISIS) in Syria.
  Clinton has repeatedly denied these claims, including during multiple statements while under oath in front of the United States Senate.
  
  WikiLeaks is about to prove Hillary Clinton deserves to be arrested[.]
  
  But the wording of the article didn’t say that any e-mails demonstrated that Hillary Clinton had sold weapons to ISIS; rather, it conveyed WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s belief that “Hillary Clinton and her State Department were actively arming Islamic jihadists.” That information came from a 25 July 2015 Assange interview with Democracy Now! journalist Juan González, during which Assange referenced earlier e-mail leaks:
  
  http://www.snopes.com/wikileaks-cofirms-hillary-clinton-sold-weapons-to-isis/
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:02am
  - Kea
    
    WikiLeaks: Hacked Emails Prove Hillary ARMED JIHADISTS In Syria – Including ISIS
    http://www.dailywire.com/news/7960/wikileaks-hacked-emails-include-hillary-arming-james-barrett
    
    Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi Debacle: Arming Jihadists in Libya . . . and Syria
    
    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438605/hillary-clinton-benghazi-scandal-arming-syrian-rebels
    
    Obama asks Congress for $500 million to train Syria rebels
    
    http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-obama-syria-20140627-story.html
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:43am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The Wahhabis have gained a foot-hold in SE Asia
  http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2017/01/14/wahabism-spreading-among-malaysias-elite/
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:02am
Jack5

Why is the Australian stock exchange outpacing the NZ exchange?

Brian Gaynor has some views on this in his column in the Hooerald.

Good reading, as usual, for those of us interested in finance.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11863859
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May 27, 2017 9:25am
- Harriet
  
  Thanks Jack, one thing he didn’t mention was the ‘size of industry’ – in Aus you have the likes of BHP, Wesfarmers, Rio Tinto etc as major listed miners and dozens of listed smaller miners, but what you also get is dozens of listed ‘mining services’ companies. No matter what industry you have in NZ — it would be extremely challenging for a ‘services company’ to be ALSO listed.
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:05am
SteveRemmington

No reply option so will respond to Reid here

“Perhaps you think the Constitution is irrelevant?”

Yes it is irrelevant in regards the discussion we are having here.

Artemisia suggested a U.K. Equivalent. Considering the UK is not bound by the USA Constitution and in fact doesn’t actually have a written one of their own would indicate your point is somewhat moot
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May 27, 2017 9:36am
Kea

America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama’s reign While candidate Obama came to office pledging to end George W Bush’s wars, he leaves office having been at war longer than any president in US history. He is also the only president to serve two complete terms with the nation at war.

The article claims the black warlord reduced the number of troops in Afghanistan. What they forgot to mention is that he increased the number by 300% when his regime came to power.

What sickens me are the cowards that bleat and moan when a few random civilians try and fight back with home made bombs.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy
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May 27, 2017 9:43am
- stephieboy
  
  Kea , well the Trump Presidency have got things ticking over and catching us dropping the largest non nuclear bomb ever on Afghanistan ,
  
  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gbu-43b-mother-of-all-bombs-massive-ordnance-air-blast-afghanistan-isis-a7682996.html
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:08am
  - Kea
    
    stephieboy
    
    Kea , well the Trump Presidency have got things ticking over and catching us dropping the largest non nuclear bomb ever on Afghanistan ,
    
    The bomb was sent there under the Obama regime and was planned by Obama.
    
    Obama was an ignorant man who lacked the intellect for statesmanship. He tried to make up for it with force and violence.
    
    MOAB Attack Was Planned Under OBAMA
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/4/14/1653195/-MOAB-Attack-Was-Planned-Under-OBAMA
    
    US General who dropped MOAB bomb says Trump’s approval was ‘not needed’
    
    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/04/14/us-general-who-dropped-moab-bomb-says-trumps-approval-was-not-needed/
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:48am
- EAD
  
  Sounds like a worthy recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize….
  
  Never mind the millions he killed – the main thing is he triumphed as President against all odds with the support of the entire MSM against those nasty US racists. A victory worthy winner of the Nobel Peace prize despite never doing anything at all to promote peace.
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:10am
  - Kea
    
    EAD the important thing is his skin tone was a bit more like his dad’s than his mum’s. That means he can do no wrong.
    
    If you don’t agree you are a racist, and it goes without saying, a nazi 😉
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:13am
stephieboy

The great many jobs that were not saved as out sourcing of US manufacturing continues apace with e.g the Rexnord ball bearing plant , Milwaukee going south of the border with the loss of 300 jobs . Disillusionment is setting in among now among many , many Trump supporters ,

“..This is a runaway train,” says Anthony Carnevale, director of the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce. “In the end, technology and global markets improve productivity and benefit all of us. Sadly, it hurts some of us even more.”

Donald Trump promised to make the pain stop, and he owes his election in part to the Midwestern factory workers who believed he would make good on the pledge. “I absolutely got sucked into this message,” says Rexnord machinist Gary Canter, 46, who has started delivering pizza for Papa John’s three nights a week to sock away extra money before his impending layoff. For Bousum, the rationale was simple: “I voted for Trump based on the fact that he could save our jobs…”

http://time.com/4783921/the-jobs-that-werent-saved/?xid=newsletter-brief

Very sad !
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May 27, 2017 9:47am
- Kea
  
  Trump is generating jobs and protecting workers just as he promised. The left have been screaming that he is interfering with the free market now LOL 🙂
  
  The people who are benefiting most are lower paid workers, like blacks and Mexicans for example.
  
  Trump has done more in a few months than the ignorant incompetent Obama did in two full terms. He lacked the intellect to do anything except be “black” and smile at his adoring virtue signalling supporters.
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:05am
  - stephieboy
    
    Kea , the facts are manufacturing jobs are continuing to be out sourced especially Mexico .Rexnord US workers for example receiving $ 25.00 vs $ 3.00 an hour Mexico.
    
    There is nothing you or Trump can do to stop that bloated rhetoric and Obama blaming not withstanding.
    
    Do you believe that for example TV sets etc should be tariff protected and assembled in NZ ?
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:15am
    - Kea
      
      stupidboy, thanks for pointing out Trump has not destroyed jobs in Mexico. I did not know that. Last time I checked he was the president of the USA not Mexico btw.
      
      So good to see an end to Obama’s racist policies though. Under his regime more Mexicans were thrown out than under any other president. He also used unheard of levels of armed force to patrol the borders. He seems to really hate those hard working Mexicans.
      
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      May 27, 2017 10:28am
      - stephieboy
        
        Kea , links please ?
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:31am
      - Kea
        
        Links ? No problem. Where are yours ?
        
        Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President
        http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:37am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        In case stephieboy has an objection to your abc link… he could do the maths himself from the official site… US immigration and Customs Enforcement
        https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/2016
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:25am
      - Kea
        
        Maggy you silly old thing, facts don’t work with stupidboy. He will vanish now, or pop back to name call and drag a red herring across the thread.
        
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        May 27, 2017 11:29am
    - fernglas
      
      That can’t be right stephieboy; have you not read Trumps recent tweet?
      
      “Just arrived in Italy for the G7. Trip has been very successful. We made and saved the USA many billions of dollars and millions of jobs.”
      
      Unclear whether it is many millions of jobs as well as billions of dollars, but even if it is just millions, he is really doing what he promised.
      
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      May 27, 2017 11:08am
VicParking

Someone just gave me the page from the failing newspaper with Lizzie Marvelly’s column on it.
Took a quick look, nausea took over, crunched it up and used it to try and light the fire. Did not work shit does not burn.
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May 27, 2017 9:51am
Reid

It is fairly obvious that the Manchester attack is a blowback of the British wars on the independent Libya under Ghaddafi and on the independent Syria under Bashar Assad. In both cases the British government supports radical Islamist takfiris to fight against the secular governments it wants to overthrow. But such extremists can never be controlled by the “west”. They hate the “west” on ideological grounds and they hate what “we” do to their home countries. Any use of such forces abroad will blow back home.

I have seen suggestions that the attack in Manchester was initiated by “deep state” Gladio forces to help Theresa May win the British election. That is possible -British secret services knew the culprit well- but it is unlikely in my view. May is predicted to win by a wide margin and there is no need to take the risk such a plan would inevitably entail. A blowback from supporting takfiri terrorists in foreign countries is the much more likely explanation.

But don’t expect the government supporting main stream media to explicitly point out that obvious connection. They are all part of the campaigns for the Takfiris when these try to overthrow this or that secular government. They are all guilty themselves of causing the Manchester attack.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/05/the-manchester-attack-a-blowback-from-britains-terror-support-in-its-wars-on-libya-and-syria.html#more

And here’s some more detail on it.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.co.nz/2017/05/uk-government-harbored-terrorists.html
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May 27, 2017 9:57am
- Kea
  
  Last time I checked the UK had bombed Libya. Not the other way around.
  
  In fact I was not able to find any Muslim country that is attacking the West, even though the African warlord dropped over 26,000 bombs on Muslims last year alone.
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:01am
  - stephieboy
    
    Kea ,
    
    “African “warlord ???
    
    But you think it is OK for Putin to do the same in Syria ?
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:17am
    - Kea
      
      stupidboy where are you getting this rubbish from ?
      
      Putin is fighting the radical jihadists that were set up by Obama. He is the only one taking positive steps to fight terrorism and restore peace in Syria.
      
      Obama sponsored rebel groups to destroy Syria because Israel demanded it. Israel wants Syria destroyed before the attack on Iran. This is also why there are moves against Russian. Both are on good terms with Iran.
      
      But you won’t listen to me. Instead hear it directly from your friend Hillary…
      
      https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328
      
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      May 27, 2017 10:33am
  - doggone7
    
    There might be some who started reading the comment and thought it was on the money.
    
    And on getting to “African warlord” thought what a lot of crap.
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:31am
    - Kea
      
      doggone7 probably the same wankers who call Trump a “nazi”.
      
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      May 27, 2017 10:34am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    And no Brit ever shot a Libyan policeman from an embassy either
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:38am
    - Reid
      
      No Libyan has done that, either.
      
      The murder of that policewoman was done by the SAS.
      
      Ballistics don’t lie.
      
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      May 27, 2017 11:50am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        What crap, what utter crap, utter utter crap.
        
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        May 28, 2017 7:56am
      - GazzaW
        
        Depends on who prepared and had access to the ballistics report.
        
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        May 28, 2017 2:36pm
Happychappy

Bill Roseburg and the Salvation Army say that the Government have put you the rich prick should have had tax for those over $120,000 raised to 45cents in the dollar.
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May 27, 2017 10:02am
- Kea
  
  Norway has much higher tax and they are doing all right.
  
  Though people forget to note their socialism is paid for by their capitalism, including vast income from OIL.
  
  We have oil too but the left won’t let us harvest it…
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:10am
  - Reid
    
    We’ve got massive mineral deposits just lying on top of the foreshore and seabed as well. There’s so much of them we could easily become the Dubai of the South Pacific. But they’re not about to let us have those trillions for ourselves. You wait and see what they do, in twenty or thirty years, when they decide to start the harvest.
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:17am
    - Kea
      
      Yes we have plenty of Oil, Coal, Minerals and other goodies. We need to rip into it.
      
      At present we use all those products that are harvested overseas with less environmental controls than we enjoy here.
      
      By harvesting locally we are protecting the environment.
      
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      May 27, 2017 11:08am
      - artemisia
        
        The EPA is shortly to decide on the ironsands application. The application is the second, as the first was flat turned down. No conditions. No requests for more info. Just no.
        
        It was followed by the Chatham Rise phosphate application. Also turned down flat. Even though there are good environmental reasons to prefer this phosphate over that we currently buy mostly from Morocco – low cadmium, much less leaching into waterways. (If the ships are allowed through that is.)
        If the ironsands application gets a go, then the phosphate application is more than likely to be resubmitted.
        
        After the first two applications were flat turned down the EPA got a shakeup and was instructed to consider economic factors as well as environmental.
        
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        May 27, 2017 6:45pm
Reid

Robert Fisk put it best: “Trump Is About To Really Mess Up In The Middle East”. Following his fantastically stupid decision to attack the Syrian military with cruise missiles Trump or, should I say, the people who take decisions for him, probably realized that it was “game over” for any US policy in the Middle-East so they did the only thing they could do: they ran towards those few who actually were happy with this aggression on Syria: the Saudis and the Israelis.

Needless to say, with these two “allies” what currently passes for some type of “US foreign policy” in the Middle-East will only go from bad to worse.

There are many ways in which Saudi Arabia and Israel are truly unique: they are both prime sponsors of terrorism, they are both nations deeply steeped in ideologies which can only be described as uncivilized (Wahabism and Jewish supremacism) and they are both armed to the teeth. But they also have one other thing in common: in spite, or maybe because of, their immense military budgets, these two nations are also militarily very weak. Oh sure, they have lots of fancy military hardware and they like to throw their weight around and beat up some defenseless “enemy”, but once you set aside all the propaganda you realize that the Saudis can’t even deal with the Houtis in Yemen while the Israelis got comprehensively defeated by 2nd rate Hezbollah forces in 2006 (top of the line Hezbollah forces were concentrated along the Litani river and never saw direct combat): the entire Golani Brigade could not even take Bint Jbeil under control even though that small town was only 1.5 miles away from the Israeli border. This is also the reason why the Saudis and the Israelis try to limit themselves to airstrikes: because on the ground they simply suck. Here again the similarity is striking: the Saudis have become “experts” at terrorizing defenseless Shia (in the KSA or in Bahrain) while the Israelis are the experts on how to terrorize Palestinian civilians.

With Trump now officially joining this ugly alliance, the USA will contribute the military “expertise” of a country which can’t even take Mosul, mostly because its forces are hiding, literally, behind the backs of Kurdish and Arab Iraqis. To think that these three want to take on Hezbollah, Iran and Russia would be almost comical if it wasn’t for the kind of appalling bloodshed that this will result in.

Alas, just look at what the Saudis are doing to Yemen, what the Israelis did to Gaza or Lebanon or what the USA did to Iraq and you will immediately get a sense of what the formation of this nefarious alliance will means for the people of Syria and the rest of the region. The record shows that a military does not need to be skilled at real warfare to be skilled at murdering people: even though the US occupation of Iraq was, in military terms, a total disaster, it did result in almost one and a half million dead people…

Can’t argue with facts, can you. Of course you can deny they exist and many Westerners struggling to maintain their fantasy they live amongst the good guys do precisely that on a daily basis. Of course these are the same people who completely ignore American bombs killing children in Yemen but loudly and longly decry the by comparison very occasional similar atrocity in their home countries as we have just witnessed in Manchester.

And even when it does happen these people are so profoundly somnolent they completely ignore the utterly obvious connections between what said home country does in the bomber’s home country and the entirely predictable blowback.

Perhaps if those people really did want things to stop they’d demand their home countries cease forthwith all future intervention in regions in which they have no business, interventions such as the subject of the linked article.

But no, these people never do that, they never add 2+2, and even worse, they encourage such intervention because they believe the palapably false lies their local propaganda service has told them about the targets of the aggression. They’re so profoundly somnolent they don’t even understand they’re listening to and watching propaganda.

Truly tragic.
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May 27, 2017 10:14am
- EAD
  
  Very well said Reid (typing from my mobile so can’t uptick you).
  
  Your final paragraph reminds me of Huxleys words which could easily have been talking about most of the rest of the blog in relation to the pair of us or Kea. Why can’t they see that Islamic aggression is actually a natural response to the horrors the West has rained down on the Islamic world. Further, under what scenario can they see same said leaders thinking it is wise to bring the same bombed out victims of Western aggression and encourage a victim mentality and that of oppression. It’s then when their mind shuts down and they don’t want to take the storyline to it’s obvious conclusion about who is giving orders and for what purpose.
  
  But no, these people never do that, they never add 2+2, and even worse, they encourage such intervention because they believe the palapably false lies their local propaganda service has told them about the targets of the aggression. They’re so profoundly somnolent they don’t even understand they’re listening to and watching propaganda.
  
  Truly tragic.
  
  Here is Huxley:
  
  The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. “Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does.” They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.
  
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  May 27, 2017 10:42am
- Fletch
  
  Trump can’t mess up the Middle East any more than Obama did. Libya, Syria, giving Iran the Bomb, deposing Egypt’s prime minister, etc… It’s largely thanks to Obama we have ISIS. Total mess.
  
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  May 27, 2017 11:59am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep, Obama had the big deal of armament sales to the Saudis all organised…… he might have got cold feet at the last minute…..but too late for the Yemen, though.
    
    Perhaps some other Yanks can halt part of the deal?
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-arms-congress-idUSKBN18L2XN
    
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    May 27, 2017 12:06pm
    - Kea
      
      Obama’s Administration Sold More Weapons Than Any Other Since World War II
      
      https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/obamas-administration-sold-more-weapons-than-any-other-since-world-war-ii
      
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      May 27, 2017 12:17pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The US economy is heavily dependent on its armaments industry.
        http://www.defensenews.com/articles/us-on-track-for-record-foreign-weapon-sales
        The country would collapse if there were no foreign wars.
        
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        May 27, 2017 12:23pm
      - Kea
        
        Maggy, yes. Trump came right out and said the arms deal with the hideous rat faced Saudis would bring jobs and money to American workers.
        
        Gotta admire the guys honesty. Very different to the shifty lying Obama.
        
        War is big business for the USA. Imagine the numbers of unemployed if they bought home all the troops deployed to kill people radical Jewish extremists hate !
        
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        May 27, 2017 12:29pm
    - Reid
      
      You’re surely dreaming Maggy if you imagine anyone in Congress apart from Tulsi Goddard is about to do anyone any good at all.
      
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      May 27, 2017 12:23pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Yeah, that’s probably true…
        
        I was just trying to expand the reading pool for some of the sheeple.
        
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        May 27, 2017 12:24pm
  - Kea
    
    Fletch, Obama achieved what he wanted in the Middle East. What he wanted was a mess. The goal was a fragmented and divided Middle East.
    
    This was achieved by arming and cultivating various discontented groups internally and letting them self destruct. This was a deliberate plan.
    
    The reason is Israel does not want a united and strong Arab world surrounding them. This is no conspiracy theory and Israeli news talks about it openly.
    
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    May 27, 2017 12:14pm
  - Reid
    
    One of the very few things Obama did well was the Iran deal and that was because he is MB.
    
    I’ve noticed Fletch in the last year or two you’ve been showing encouraging signs of awakening but unless and until you recognise the reality Iran is not a threat rather its the Wahhabist Takfiris and Israel, your ME geopolitical analyses will continue to yield precisely nothing of value.
    
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    May 27, 2017 12:21pm
    - Kea
      
      Reid, what is MB ?
      
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      May 27, 2017 12:32pm
      - Reid
        
        Muslim Brotherhood
        
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        May 27, 2017 1:13pm
      - Kea
        
        Reid, Obama is not MB. He used them to achieve the goals of the Israel lobby. Though AIPAC reckoned it was not enough and he copped shit for it !
        
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        May 27, 2017 1:17pm
      - Reid
        
        Yeah he is. When he did the Iran deal he needed to make compromises with various players… There is always a price.
        
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        May 27, 2017 1:34pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Hah. We’ve heard it from Reid – Fletch is approaching the same level of delusion.
      
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      May 27, 2017 5:18pm
Hugh Pavletich

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/05/weekend-links-27-28-may-2017/#comment-2876971

All Hell Breaks Loose In Toronto’s House Price Bubble | Zero Hedge

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-26/all-hell-breaks-loose-torontos-house-price-bubble

“It’s fear.”

During the first two weeks in May, according to preliminary data from Toronto Real Estate Board, home listings surged 47% from the same period last year even as sales plunged 16%. The average selling price dropped 3.3% from April – and this, after a 33% year-over-year spike in home prices in March and a 25% surge in April. Something is happening to Toronto’s blistering house price bubble. … read more via hyperlink above …

Toronto Homeowners Are Suddenly in a Rush to Sell … Bloomberg
h/t GF

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-24/toronto-bidding-wars-turn-to-homebuyers-remorse-as-market-slows

Toronto’s hot housing market has entered a new phase: jittery.

After a double whammy of government intervention and the near-collapse of Home Capital Group Inc., sellers are rushing to list their homes to avoid missing out on the recent price gains. The new dynamic has buyers rethinking purchases and sellers asking why they aren’t attracting the bidding wars their neighbors saw just a few weeks ago in Canada’s largest city. … VIEW & READ more via hyperlink above …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/05/another-future-fundie-warns-aussie-housing-bubble/#comment-2876272
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May 27, 2017 10:41am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Hugh,
  WHO……..GIVES……A……FLYING………FUCK?
  
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  May 27, 2017 11:39am
  - Kea
    
    Captain Mainwaring
    
    Hugh,
    WHO……..GIVES……A……FLYING………FUCK?
    
    You do and the fear shows in your response. You can not accept the fact you have worked all your life to build a lie. Your shallow materialistic world is a fragile mirage. The dollar value of your house/house’s, and the dollars themselves, can all crumple away in literally a matter of hours.
    
    It can happen and does happen and will happen again. Not that I expect you have the capacity to accept that reality.
    
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    May 27, 2017 11:45am
Hugh Pavletich

(Toronto – Canada) GTA home sales plunge as much as 61 per cent | Toronto Star

https://www.thestar.com/business/2017/05/26/gta-home-sales-plunge-as-much-as-61-per-cent.html

A stomach churning drop of up to 61 per cent in the number of home sales in some municipalities around Toronto could translate to a single-digit decline in regional prices by the end of the month, says a realtor who has crunched the numbers. … read more via hyperlink above …
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May 27, 2017 10:55am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  The Greater Toronto Area (GTA) is the most populous metropolitan area in Canada. As of the 2016 census, it has a population of 6,417,516, and has a census metropolitan area population of 5,928,040.
  
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  May 27, 2017 11:00am
- Kea
  
  Lets hope its a global crash. We need an adjustment of around 70% here in NZ to reflect the true value of housing. Either we do that, or the currency will crash. Its the lessor evil.
  
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  May 27, 2017 11:04am
  - Happychappy
    
    70% Kea now I can see why you only have one strike left as you are a complete idiot.
    
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    May 27, 2017 11:19am
    - Kea
      
      Yes 70 % at least.
      
      Want to know the true value of your house ? Its the price it would reach on the open market if there was no lending or credit.
      
      The value of your greatest asset is based on smoke and mirrors. The perceived value is a reflection of the availability and value of money issued as debt. Not the value of the house.
      
      You just can’t handle the truth and that is why you need to resort to abuse. You lack the intellectual honesty to accept evidence that contradicts your emotions. You are living a lie dickhead.
      
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      May 27, 2017 11:34am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Just in case you missed this one … possibly it takes a Conservative to get through to slow-learning Conservatives such as Capt Mainwaring …
        
        Garth Turners Greater Fool Blog … ‘MAYDAY ?’
        … h/t PH …
        
        http://www.greaterfool.ca/2017/05/01/mayday-2/
        
        Over six thousand people decided to sell their GTA properties in the last seven days. Of those 6,050 new listings roughly 1,500 were condos, which might suggest a whole mess of locals have decided to cash in their detached lottery ticket before this gig is up.
        
        No wonder. The angst and heebeejeebees this pathetic blog has been wallowing in for the last few weeks has finally made into what’s left of the MSM. Like this story in today’s Toronto Star:
        
        It is like a tap has been switched off. That’s how realtor Louise Sabino describes the housing market in the wake of the Liberal government’s provincial plan aimed at cooling Toronto’s scorching property prices.
        
        “I think it’s shocking that it did make the impact so fast,” the Royal LePage Signature Realty agent said.
        
        That’s the funny thing about bubbles. Everybody’s horny to get their hands on rising assets – until they’re not. It always happens fast, whatever the asset and no matter the trigger. Greed is a powerful emotion, but it wilts before the dominance of fear. If enough people fear houses will stop rising (prices don’t even need to decline), they’ll cease making the Herculean sacrifice required to buy one. And down she goes. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        About Garth Turner … Greater Fool Blog
        
        http://www.greaterfool.ca/about-garth-turner/
        
        Google News Search ‘Home Capital Canada’
        
        https://www.google.co.nz/?gws_rd=ssl#q=home+capital+canada&tbm=nws&spf=731
        
        … Bubbles are just popping everywhere now … and political careers too.
        
        John Key really did do the Capt Costa Concordia act rather well late last year … as set out within the GONE GONE GOING section of my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org … giving poor Bill the hospital pass.
        
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        May 27, 2017 12:22pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        BIG BUBBLE TROUBLE IN AUSTRALIA …
        
        Australian Economy hit by spending strike, cyclone … Australian Financial Review Weekender (bebind paywall
        
        http://www.afr.com/news/economy/economy-judders-on-bank-crackdown-cyclone-debbie-20170526-gwdmra
        Australia’s economy looks to have experienced its weakest start to a year since 2011 – narrowly skirting a contraction – as a growing consumer spending strike and a cyclone-driven slowdown in exports weighs on activity just as the government bets its budget strategy on a rebound.
        
        While the country is not at risk just yet of a technical recession – or two quarters of consecutive declines in gross domestic product – the economy looks set to continue in 2017 its whip-saw pattern of the past year.
        
        Combined with weak spending and a fall in shipments of iron ore and coal, as well as lower commodity prices, the first quarter is likely to have been weighed down by a sudden collapse in construction work – a sign that a regulatory squeeze on apartment lending may be starting to bite.
        
        Weak retail spending, which this week saw the seventh retailer go under in recent months, sharply rising car loan delinquencies and falling new car sales all point toward a population clamping down on discretionary spending.
        
        ANZ Bank economists said next month’s national accounts may show the economy grew just 0.1 per cent from the December quarter – raising the spectre of the second negative quarter in nine months after GDP shrank by 0.5 per cent in the September quarter before rebounding by 1.1 per cent in late 2016.
        
        Annual growth may have shuddered to just 1.5 per cent in the opening months of the year from 2.4 per cent last year.
        
        While they are in the minority, some analysts are starting to warn that the economy may have gone backwards, not just in the March quarter, but may be doing so in the current period. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        May 28, 2017 2:34am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Near the top of the thread of this MacroBusiness Australia article. I touched on the Irish housing bubble experience. It may be of assistance to Kiwiblog readers in assessing the bubble values to be vaporized in New Zealand and Australia going forward …
        
        Another future fundie warns on Aussie housing bubble – MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/05/another-future-fundie-warns-aussie-housing-bubble/
        
        Hugh PavletichMEMBER
        May 26, 2017 at 2:29 am
        
        When the Irish bubble burst 07 / 08 the average unweighted median multiples for its metros went from 4.7 to 2.8 … putting all its Banks to the wall.
        
        Australian metros overall average unweighted median multiples are currently about 5.5 … New Zealand 5.9.
        
        The 2015 figures for the Irish Banks bailout costs were in the order of 70 billion euro. It is still very much ‘mortgage mayhem’ as the Irish debtors laws are so draconian.
        
        Subsequent research by the Central Bank of Ireland found high multiple lending (Loan to Income ratios) was far more problematic than high Loan to Value ratio lending … which in turn led to a general cap on mortgage lending of about 3.5 times annual household incomes. The Bank of England had earlier capped at 4.5 times.
        
        Refer to the schedule of Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Surveys (13 to date) accessible via my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org … to assess the bubble values of specific markets.
        
        These items are useful too …
        
        Prof Bill Black & others discuss the Irish financial system performance … Youtube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7zd5dRILBw
        
        … and …
        
        This country still needs to get its houses in order ten years after the financial crisis began … Lucinda Creighton … The Irish Sun
        
        https://www.thesun.ie/news/1006506/this-country-still-needs-to-get-its-houses-in-order-ten-years-after-the-financial-crisis-began/
        
        Lucinda Creighton – Wikipedia
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucinda_Creighton
        
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        May 28, 2017 3:00am
Happychappy

Kea : You would not understand the meaning the word Truth so don’t be so righteous and try to make out you do. Lots of folk in NZ have continued to up grade their homes every year as a investment for the Future and a jealous jumped up prick like you would love to see the market crash to suit the lefts narrative.
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May 27, 2017 11:47am
- Kea
  
  You start with an appeal to emotion with reference to the future, folk, and jealousy. None of which are relevant. You then set up a strawman and tell a lie, by stating I want this happen.
  
  Your sort of delusional behaviour and dishonesty will ensure it will happen. Ramming your head further up your arse will not avoid it happening.
  
  It won’t be a bad thing and people with properties will still be better off. See through your fear and deep ignorance and look at the bigger picture.
  
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  May 27, 2017 11:56am
  - Happychappy
    
    I have no fear it is the worker that got big mortgage and paid tax to achieve what he has that I fear for. While the people you want this for have never got off their arse and worked to achieve it.
    
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    May 27, 2017 2:05pm
Manolo

AGW, a panacea, shout the warmists.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-26/merkel-says-it-was-six-to-one-against-trump-on-climate-change
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May 27, 2017 11:53am
- Kea
  
  Six to One Against Trump sounds like pretty good odds. He has faced down worse.
  
  The political activists behind the AGW hoax can rage all they like. He controls their purse strings 🙂
  
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  May 27, 2017 12:01pm
  - kowtow
    
    Other than japan the 6 are a bunch of useless, f#cken , migrant hugging pricks.
    
    I don’t think a lot of Trump , but he’s right on borders and carbon.
    
    If the other world leaders cared as much about jobs and security for their own people as Trump says he does then the wests’ economies would be in far better shape than they are.
    
    Europe and Canada are being swamped by bludgers which is having a massive toll on budgets.
    
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    May 27, 2017 3:46pm
Fletch

Very good article by David Horowitz on how the Left operates. They are all about the tribalism of identity politics and victim culture now.

Senator Kamala Harris is a rising star in the Democratic Party, frequently mentioned on the short-list of contenders for the next presidential race. In a recent commencement speech at Howard University Harris issued a call to arms, urging her audience to rally behind the Democrats’ resistance to the Trump administration: “Graduates, indeed we have a fight ahead. This is a fight to define what kind of country we are, and it’s a fight to determine what country we will be.”

If one political faction is now able to redefine the ideal to conform to its own sectarian beliefs, the country we have known will cease to exist. But that is just what the current creed of the Democratic Party – “identity politics” – entails, and is why the current divisions in our political life seem so intractable. Identity politics is, in fact, the antithesis of the American idea. It is a reversion to tribal loyalties. It regards diverse origins – colors, ethnicities, genders and classes – as primary, and proposes a hierarchy of privilege based on them, which it justifies as a reversal of past oppressions.

It is not the proper role of an opposition party in a democracy to mount a “resistance” to a duly elected government and press for its overthrow at the very outset of its tenure. But that is precisely what the Democrats have done in the first months of the Trump administration. For the second time in its history, the Democratic Party has opted to secede from the Union and its social contract. This time there is not going to be an actual civil war because the federal government is now so powerful that whoever controls it will decide the outcome. The passions of an irreconcilable conflict are still present but they are channeled into a political confrontation over the executive power.

MORE – http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/horowitz-democrats-second-secession-americas-new-civil-war
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May 27, 2017 12:04pm
- KevOB
  
  The Federal Government should have the power but it too has been infected. Even the Courts are refusing to acknowledge legitimate Presidential rights and power.
  I don’t know who can pull this mess together. If the military in conjunction with the CIA are pulling the strings expect civil war and that might be global war. Obama has to take some blame for the setting up the possible scenario but now he is travelling world stages with a motorcade of 13 how is his humility to be impaired. Who is he? Is the remnant a phoenix?
  
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  May 27, 2017 1:29pm
Morrissey

Bye bye Mrs May, it has not been good to know you

Trending….
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-gain-tory-victory-theresa-may-general-election-8-june-yougov-opinium-polls-a7709961.html

Trending stronger…
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/politics/610986/jeremy-corbyn-vs-theresa-may-polls-general-election

Trending still stronger….
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/poll-labour-would-go-backwards-under-yvette-cooper-or-chuka-umunna-2017-5?r=UK&IR=T
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May 27, 2017 12:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Swift response from the Egyptian Government after the massacre of Coptic Christians

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40067473
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May 27, 2017 12:33pm
- Kea
  
  Nonsense Maggy. Obama fixed Egypt remember. Same as Libya and Syria.
  
  They are all secular liberal societies now full of tolerance and love.
  
  The stories about the Obama backed regime chopping of the heads of Christians as he sent them F-16s to fight off the opposition were all lies.
  
  http://time.com/3766224/united-states-weapons-ban-lifted-egypt/
  
  “It will allow for the shipment of 12 F-16 aircraft, 20 Harpoon missiles and up to 125 M-1 Abrams tank upgrades. The White House added that the Administration will continue to ask Congress to approve $1.3 billion in annual military aid to Egypt.”
  
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  May 27, 2017 12:38pm
- Inandout
  
  The Trump effect?
  
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  May 27, 2017 3:33pm
Kea

Report: Numbers Now Show Trump Has Created More Jobs Since Election Than Obama’s Entire Term

Donald Trump will go down as the greatest jobs president in American history. How do I know that? Statistics and data indicate that Obama will go down as one of the worst job creating presidents in American history. Under Obama, the labor participation rate plummeted. In September 2016, 94,184,000 Americans were not in the labor force.

The age of darkness is lifting in the US. Trump is leading a new age of enlightment, tolerance and prosperity. 🙂
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May 27, 2017 12:44pm
- Jack5
  
  Kea is on fire today.
  
  Kea, who has access to your bird seed before it reaches you? Did it taste normal this morning? 😀
  
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  May 27, 2017 1:36pm
- Manolo
  
  Even stephieboy will become a Trump supporter next year. ?
  
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  May 27, 2017 1:36pm
- Kea
  
  Jack5 so many lies told today it’s like shooting fish in a barrel.
  
  How can people be so dam stupid in the internet age ? The intellectual disease of religion is largely to blame.
  
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  May 27, 2017 1:44pm
VicParking

Why does Sky get the rights to all the best sport. $$$ ofcourse. Why is new zealand one of the only countries in the world that important national events like the All Black Tests, America’s cup etc are not free to air. Could it be because our politicans get as part of their communications package Sky TV and/or Free tickets to all the tests.
Rich people have Sky TV, rich people vote. Poor people dont vote, Labours lost million, so who cares.
When I moved into our current house I had great pleasure taking down the Sky dish, ringing Sky and telling them come get it. After a month I took it to the tip. Just like the failing newspaper I love to read with joy their subscription numbers reducing month by month.
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May 27, 2017 1:36pm
Rachael Membery

So we are agreed. All Westerners will exit Muslim countries and all Muslims exit Western countries.
Time frame? Housing issue sorted? Hugh will be pleased.
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May 27, 2017 1:55pm
Jack5

The Budget has given more money to Radio Labour!

It ended the freeze on State finance for Radio NZ, John Drinnan reports in his Hooerald column. Radio NZ has been on an annual budget of $35 million since 2008, but will now get an extra $11.4 million, spread over four years.

Drinnan supports public broadcasting, but I’m guessing many of us Kiwiblog followers will wonder why a centre-left government is bolstering the State radio operator, which is trying to expand into a a State internet service. ( The Radio New Zealand Amendment Bill last year broadened its role.)

My guess is that the new dip into taxpayer money isn’t unrelated to the deal between Radio NZ and State-funded Maori broadcasters. This was mediated by John Tamihere and Willie Jackson, the latter now Labour’s Maori campaign director.

The deal is obvious to RNZ listeners in increased Maori content and use of Maori terms, which has led to some strange inter-language effects, such as when female announcers sign off as “Ho X” or “Ho Y”. Radio NZ has also set up a internship scheme for Maori.

My guess is that, in return for the State-supported 21 stations of Iwi Radio Network getting greater influence on and help from Radio NZ, the Maori Party used its 2 per cent power in the Coalition to wring more cash out of the Government for Radio NZ.
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May 27, 2017 2:08pm
Kea

*******BREAKING NEWS*******

NZ government consumed by reefer madness.

Griff emerges from his compound to make a statement…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/92763246/peter-dunne-says-class-c-drugs-like-cannabis-should-be-made-legal-and-regulated
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May 27, 2017 2:55pm
- nasska
  
  I suspect that the bow-tied idiot has just seen the results of an Ohariu electorate poll, has checked the situations vacant & has decided to dip a toe in the waters of reality.
  
  Funnily enough, given that he’s likely to be needed again to make up the numbers of any likely government he may have to actually prove that he’s not all piss & wind.
  
  Marijuana, at least, is going to get legalised sooner than later. Even the religious/conservative throwbacks to another age can’t hold out forever.
  
  Interesting times await
  
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  May 27, 2017 3:08pm
- Jack5
  
  There’s been a delay.
  
  Party assistants are trying to talk Possum Dunne down from the tree so he can appear on the rostrum with Mr Griff. Possum keeps asking for a delay so can finish winding up his bow tie. He’s also asking Mrs Possum if he can have his cellphone today.
  
  Meanwhile, the reporters milling below are getting restless. 😎
  
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  May 27, 2017 3:10pm
  - nasska
    
    It’s the hardcore religious/conservative headcases I feel for Jack. Imagine being forced into compulsory anal while stoned at a same sex satanic wedding.
    
    They’ll start to come apart at the edges! 🙂
    
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    May 27, 2017 3:16pm
  - Kea
    
    They should legalise it and not piss around with a bunch of silly restrictions. Make it legal from the age of 18. Younger people will smoke it, but can and do already.
    
    Everyone who wants to smoke weed is already doing it. The law is not working.
    
    You get life for dealing meth, but the streets are full of it, according to the cops.
    
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    May 27, 2017 3:17pm
    - nasska
      
      ….”You get life for dealing meth, but the streets are full of it, “…..
      
      Mostly because the final layer in the pyramid consists of users selling a few bags to fund their own habits. No court is going to go hard on them.
      
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      May 27, 2017 3:23pm
      - Harriet
        
        If dope is not a problem then you would have far more MP’s than just Dunny and a couple of green losers out advocating in public.
        
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        May 27, 2017 3:34pm
Jack5

Poor old Invercargill voters.

NZ First has put up Ria Bond, a list MP as its candidate for Invercargill. Women now have a lock on the seat.

Bond will be up against Sarah Dowie, the National MP for the city, and, for Labour, Liz Craig, of Dunedin.

With the unrest about refugees being imposed on the region, you would think smart folk in the northern headquarters of the various parties would see the opportunity for a firebrand. But nah.

If I lived in Invercargill, I just might give voting a miss this year.
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May 27, 2017 3:08pm
- Kea
  
  If I lived in Invercargill, I ~~just might give voting a miss this year.~~ would be roaming the streets with my White Power mates beating up refugees.
  
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  May 27, 2017 3:29pm
  - nasska
    
    The immigration authorities are looking at this the wrong way Kea. Instead of inflicting 200 headbangers & their bludging rellies on the good folks of Invercargill they should charter a boat & keep on going for another 460Km.
    
    There they’ll find the uninhabited delights of the Auckland Islands where they can carry on living their primitive lives in peace.
    
    I note that they will not be short of food:
    
    …..”There are introduced Auckland Island pig, cats and mice are present on the island.”…..
    
    Even their sexual emergencies are catered for:
    
    …..”Goats were introduced to the Auckland Islands several times in the second half of the nineteenth century”….
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland_Island
    
    Do I have to sort out everything for these hopeless buggers? 🙂
    
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    May 27, 2017 3:38pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      The goats were shot out in the 1990s.
      (and the pretty little bunnies on Enderby Is golf-course were bopped off, too)
      
      Some piggies were left on Main Auckland Is
      but their number will be up in the near future
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/89742230/plan-to-wipe-out-auckland-island-pigs
      
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      May 27, 2017 4:11pm
  - Jack5
    
    Kea, you don’t strike me as a thuggish type, so you must be referring to me.
    
    You don’t know my skin colour, Kea, any more than I know your gender. I might be in danger from White Power.
    
    But White Power in Invercargill? Have you ever been there?
    
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    May 27, 2017 3:38pm
    - Kea
      
      Jack5 Invercargill is a den of white power types. Also the West Coast and Christchurch. Most are pretty harmless though.
      
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      May 27, 2017 4:06pm
kowtow

Only in Aotearoa.

Shouldn’t be too hard to spot.

“Hughes has a distinctive tattoo of a fist on the right side of his face.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/armed-man-stolen-car-sought
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May 27, 2017 3:36pm
Viking2

Imagine a New Zealand where you could have any drug, without fear of running into trouble with the law.

It’s not as far-fetched as it sounds, although it’s hard to believe that Peter Dunne – the mild-mannered, bowtie-wearing associate health minister – could be the one pushing for it.

Our current law isn’t stopping New Zealanders from using drugs.

( fuck him we have been saying this for 30 years.)(slow learners some of these elected people.)

For some time now, Dunne’s been talking up the merits of Portugal’s drug laws, where every drug is decriminalised – albeit with a caveat: If you’re caught with less than 10 days of any drug – cannabis, heroin, methamphetamine, or anything in between – you won’t be prosecuted. Instead, you’ll be fined or sent to treatment.

“The sky doesn’t fall in when you do a Portugal-style reform,” executive director Ross Bell says.

“Decriminalise all drugs, stop it from being a law enforcement issue, make it a health issue and invest in health. We should be able to do this by 2020.”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/92763246/peter-dunne-says-class-c-drugs-like-cannabis-should-be-made-legal-and-regulated
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May 27, 2017 3:43pm
- nasska
  
  Right on V2. NZ & its government is chocka with control freaks demanding dire penalties for those smoking a joint.
  
  All while gargling a double malt.
  
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  May 27, 2017 3:48pm
  - Longknives
    
    I’m not so sure legalising Meth is a good idea V2 and Nasska.
    *Said while gargling a Gentleman Jack..
    
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    May 27, 2017 4:19pm
    - Viking2
      
      Nothing to fear but fear itself.
      
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      May 27, 2017 4:42pm
Manolo

The barbarians fast and bring joy to England:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4546482/Bank-Holiday-ring-steel-Security-ramped-1300-events.html
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May 27, 2017 3:50pm
- kowtow
  
  Who’d have thought that armed security forces on the beach was part of the diversity dividend.
  
  I’d guess the last time England saw that was in the very dark days after Dunkirk.
  
  The difference now is the enemy are home born and not from across the Rhine, just as foreign though, if not more so.At least back then Britain’s political class resisted the invader , this time it is the political class who brought them in and continues to.
  
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  May 27, 2017 4:02pm
  - Kea
    
    “Who’d have thought that armed security forces on the beach was part of the diversity dividend.”
    
    They are there to take care of any “racists” and look out for “hate speech” and other thought crimes.
    
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    May 27, 2017 4:39pm
Maggy Wassilieff

NY Times editor defending his use of “top secret” leaked photographs

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-40067421/manchester-attack-editor-defends-publishing-leaked-photos

(there is top secret and top-top secret…… good that these top journos know the difference)
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May 27, 2017 4:28pm
- Kea
  
  Is this like those BANNED DOCUMENTARIES !!!! and HIDDEN EVIDENCE !!!! you find all over the world wide web for billions of people to gawk at ? 🙂
  
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  May 27, 2017 4:34pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I don’t watch banned docos or search for hidden evidence…
    it’s all on view/full frontal/ in ya face with me….
    http://www.redlipshighheels.com/wp-content/uploads/woman-wearing-a-black-burqa.jpg
    
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    May 27, 2017 4:48pm
    - Kea
      
      Maggy you are going to get stupidboy all horny with pictures like that ! 🙂
      
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      May 27, 2017 4:53pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        oh goodness, I wasn’t thinking straight
        
        https://media4.giphy.com/media/Zx12n2W9mDpNS/giphy.gif
        
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        May 27, 2017 5:04pm
Reid

Zbig dies.

It’s been a good year. First Rockefeller, now him. Let’s hope Kissinger and Bush 41 go to meet their maker soon as well. Good luck guys explaining to Him how you really didn’t mean to murder all those people. You’ll find you can’t lie to Him as easily as you have to the sheeple down here. BTW, Satan was lying to you, you’re really not going to get a good position in his army. Sorry about that. He does that, you know.

https://www.rt.com/usa/389900-zbigniew-brzezinski-dead-89/
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May 27, 2017 4:28pm
KevinH

An embarrassing revelation has been reported in the Telegraph concerning how Manchester bomber Salman Abedi financed his bomb making activities:

The Manchester suicide bomber used taxpayer-funded student loans and benefits to bankroll the terror plot, police believe.

Salman Abedi is understood to have received thousands of pounds in state funding in the run up to Monday’s atrocity even while he was overseas receiving bomb-making training.

Police are investigating Abedi’s finances, including how he paid for frequent trips to Libya where he is thought to have been taught to make bombs at a jihadist training camp.

Abedi’s finances are a major ‘theme’ of the police inquiry amid growing alarm over the ease with which jihadists are able to manipulate Britain’s welfare and student loans system to secure financing.

One former detective said jihadists were enrolling on university courses to collect the student loans “often with no intention of turning up”.

Abedi was given at least £7,000 from the taxpayer-funded Student Loans Company after beginning a business administration degree at Salford University in October 2015.

It is thought he received a further £7,000 in the 2016 academic year even though by then he had already dropped out of the course.

Abedi, 22, never held down a job, according to neighbours and friends, but was able to travel regularly between the UK and Libya.

Abedi also had sufficient funds to buy materials for his sophisticated bomb while living in a rented house in south Manchester.

Six weeks before the bombing Abedi rented a second property in a block of flats in Blackley eight miles from his home, paying £700 in cash.

He had enough money to rent a third property in the centre of Manchester from where he set off with a backpack containing the bomb.

Abedi also withdrew £250 in cash three days before the attack and transferred £2,500 to his younger brother Hashim in Libya, who is accused of knowing about the attack in advance.

David Videcette, a former Metropolitan police detective who worked on the 7/7 London bombing investigation, said of the student loans’ system: “It is an easy way for a terrorist to move forward and finance their activities at the expense of the taxpayer.

“All you have got to do is get yourself into university and then off you go. Often they have go no intention of turning up.”

Professor Anthony Glees, director of Buckingham University’s Centre for Security and Intelligence Studies, said: “The British system makes funds readily available to jihadist students without checks on them. There needs to be an inquiry into this.”
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May 27, 2017 4:36pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

From 2013, Shapeshifter and In Colour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Yx8VZvz1M
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May 27, 2017 5:35pm
Chuck Bird

Has anyone seen the latest Roy Morgan? Winston picks the PM.
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May 27, 2017 5:45pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Here:
  http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/7239-roy-morgan-new-zealand-voting-intention-may-2017-201705261624
  
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  May 27, 2017 6:10pm
  - Kea
    
    “support for the Conservative Party was down 0.5% to 0%”
    
    LOL 🙂
    
    “I am just the vanguard of a political movement that is going to wipe Progressives off the face of the earth. They’ll disappear like the Dodo birds did.
    
    I am spearheading a force that will grow from hundreds to thousands to millions and you will be gone.”
    
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    May 27, 2017 6:13pm
    - nasska
      
      Alas, his spear wilted. 🙂
      
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      May 27, 2017 6:40pm
Longknives

So The Herald published a piece today attacking ‘Middle-Aged White Men’

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11863035

Wouldn’t it be magnificent if every one of these hated ‘White Men’ who contributed to Advertising etc with Herald withdrew their financial support of this Left Wing rag immediately? (I mean The Herald clearly detests this particular Demographic and wouldn’t touch their dirty money!)
I’d also love to see a shitload of complaints to Dame Susan Devoy as why else would Lizzie single out this one Racial group other than to incite Racial Hatred?
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May 27, 2017 5:45pm
- itstricky
  
  It’s funny that:
  
  A. I still haven’t seen a KBer criticise Lord for playing the race+gender cards
  
  B. That anyone here would consider boycotting after the excessive use of the adjective ‘snowflake’
  
  It’s an opinion piece, man! Read a different news source if it upsets you that much.
  
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  May 27, 2017 6:21pm
  - nasska
    
    Kiwiblog comments is a series of opinion pieces itstricky.
    
    It still doesn’t mean we can say what we really think in case the bleeding hearts go running off crying to the insane Dame & drop DPF in the shit.
    
    Sauce for the goose & all that?
    
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    May 27, 2017 6:39pm
    - itstricky
      
      It sure is. Not my point. Read 100 KB posts where the only offered “sage advice” is “oh the snowflakes are protesting/boycotting again”. And here we have someone who’s got so upset at what someone else had said that he’s calling for a boycott. So I expect an equally sarcastic and sharp pointed response. Oh what’s that? There isn’t one? Well blow me down and call me a (goose’s) feather.
      
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      May 27, 2017 6:56pm
      - nasska
        
        ….”Well blow me down and call me a (goose’s) feather.”…..
        
        Your chance of a blow job around these parts wavers between slim & remote while what you should do with the goose feather can’t be brought up on a family blog. 🙂
        
        But it does seem that there is only one grouping that can be criticised with impunity. Personally it doesn’t worry me what some airhead waffles about but as you’re a fully paid up, foundation member, level 98 bleeding heart have you thought of creating a group to protect us?
        
        In the interests of consistency & all that.
        
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        May 27, 2017 7:11pm
Longknives

So if I wrote an ‘Opinion piece’ sneering at and mocking Maori Women you are saying you wouldn’t go howling and shrieking to Dame Devoy Tricky? Come now- Just think how outraged you would be…
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May 27, 2017 6:33pm
- itstricky
  
  What’s your point and is it based in anything that has actually happened?
  
  Because you’re the one calling for the boycott, not me.
  
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  May 27, 2017 7:01pm
Viking2

During a commencement address at Wellesley College on Friday, Hillary Clinton admitted boozing helped her get over the election loss to Donald Trump.

Hillary is a fine example for young women everywhere. If things get tough, just get drunk like Hillary.

Tha sad part is, Hillary has been boozing it up a long time for any reason.

She was boozing it up all the time she bumbled her duty as Secretary of State.

http://defiantamerica.com/hillary-clinton-says-drinking-helped-election-loss/
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May 27, 2017 6:51pm
- Kea
  
  I suspect her erratic behaviour and outbursts may be due to drinking. Her substance abuse is probably a factor in her dementia also.
  
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  May 27, 2017 7:04pm
  - nasska
    
    Terrible stuff the grog. Marijuana is much safer.
    
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    May 27, 2017 7:13pm
    - dad4justice
      
      ” Marijuana is much safer.”
      
      Is that why 90% of police smoke it?
      
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      May 27, 2017 7:15pm
      - Kea
        
        They are using meth to help with the late shifts now days Dad.
        
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        May 27, 2017 7:16pm
      - dad4justice
        
        I know a meth dealer who said she sells more P to cops than anybody else. The night shift cops are high as a kite, but who cares in corrupt free NZ!!!!!!
        
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        May 27, 2017 7:18pm
      - nasska
        
        I don’t know if they do or they don’t Dad but I would think they would see what various substances do to various of their clientelle.
        
        Given the unpredictability & violence of anyone fried on booze or “P” compared to someone giggling & talking shit as a result of using dope I wouldn’t think it would be hard to figure out.
        
        Even for a NZ cop.
        
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        May 27, 2017 7:20pm
      - Kea
        
        nasska, yeah but the filth get their gear by beating up on people and nicking it.
        
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        May 27, 2017 7:28pm
- sam green
  
  One and one make eleven. Fake news guys- and you are the source.
  
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  May 27, 2017 8:25pm
  - Kea
    
    spam stop being so stuffy and join in the fun. Surely you must have some dirt on the pigs you can share, or at least make something up ? 🙂
    
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    May 27, 2017 8:45pm
    - sam green
      
      I was commented on Viking’s post.
      
      I’ll try to make up a story later.
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:12pm
      - Kea
        
        No need to make something up about the rotten old hag Hillary. It should be dead, or in a secure care facility for the insane, before the next election.
        
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        May 27, 2017 9:22pm
      - sam green
        
        Can’t say she’s my cup of tea.
        
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        May 27, 2017 10:04pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I hope it wasn’t Gisborne Chardonnay
  http://www.gisbornewine.co.nz/
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:28pm
stigie

Police do smoke it like anybody else for their relaxation and does less harm !~
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May 27, 2017 7:17pm
- dad4justice
  
  Moderation, can’t say that I got evidence, looks like big brother is unhappy with the truth again. I guess I better get ready for incoming. I can expect another visit soon from our lovely police. God help this corrupt country.
  
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  May 27, 2017 7:25pm
  - Kea
    
    Dad just repost the comment. Its a glitch in the system. Otherwise all my stuff would be in moderation 🙂
    
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    May 27, 2017 7:26pm
    - dad4justice
      
      No Kea I mentioned the name of a local judge who is addicted to P. I have had many bad experiences after commenting on here.
      
      Go away stigfly you pathetic pest.
      
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      May 27, 2017 7:30pm
  - stigie
    
    What truth are you talking about Dad, your 7.18 comment was twaddle ole chap..?
    
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    May 27, 2017 7:28pm
    - Kea
      
      The pigs are whacked of their faces stigie. The ones who go nuts and shoot Maoris are the P freaks and the ones too lazy to investigate burglaries are the stoners.
      
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      May 27, 2017 7:30pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Interesting doco on BBC at the moment..

archival films of Great British explorers…
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May 27, 2017 8:37pm
nasska

My wife never ceases to amaze me.

Just as I was beginning to think that all the romance had gone out of the bedroom she goes and farts the theme to Love Story.
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May 27, 2017 8:59pm
Harriet

OH FUCK ME!!!

THAT FUCKEN DRUGO BITCH CORBY IS ON THE MOVE!!!

THERE GOES THE ENTIRE FUCKEN WEEK!!!

but i’d root her 😎
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May 27, 2017 9:00pm
- nasska
  
  You’d root a sick dog on the end of a chain.
  
  But that’s what happens after a life of religious abstinence. 🙂
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:08pm
- Kea
  
  That hideous foul skank is an embarrassment to Aussies bogans. Wait and see how long it takes before it gets in trouble with the law again…
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:09pm
  - Harriet
    
    Apparently there’s more to come out……she was almost executed……due do being part of criminal organisation.
    
    Her father had a background and connections in the dope trade from memory.
    
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    May 27, 2017 9:25pm
    - Kea
      
      Harriet the whole family are a bunch of drug dealing crooks. She was taking a pile of weed for her brother to sell out of the surf shop in Bali.
      
      I am strongly against Indonesia’s severe drug laws but I felt like shooting her myself with all the lies she told and the whole victim act.
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:34pm
    - Kea
      
      Here is what one of her former defense lawyers said about them 🙂
      
      Schapelle Corby’s former lawyer has described the Corby family as “ungrateful” and “nasty”.
      
      In the second part of a Nine Network documentary on the Corby saga, Schapelle Corby: The Hidden Truth, aired on Tuesday night, Australian Robin Tampoe accused Corby’s mother Rosleigh Rose of “putting shit on everyone” associated with the case in a TV interview given shortly after Corby’s sentence in 2005.
      
      “These are the biggest pile of trash I have ever come across in my life,” Mr Tampoe said.
      
      “I have never seen a more ungrateful, nasty piece of work than this woman (Corby’s mother, Rosleigh Rose) and this family,” Mr Tampoe said.
      
      http://www.smh.com.au/national/corby-family-nasty-ungrateful-lawyer-20080624-2wa4.html
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:41pm
- sam green
  
  Yeah yeah Harriet – but would she root you should be the question.
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:26pm
nasska

Scene: Melbourne International Airport

Melbourne Tower : “Saudi Air 511 —
You are cleared to land on runway 9R.”

Saudi Air : “Thank you Melbourne. Acknowledge cleared to land on infidel’s runway 9R – Allah be Praised.”

Melbourne Tower : “Iran Air 711 – You are cleared to land on runway 27L.”

Iran Air : “Thank you Melbourne. We are cleared to land on infidel’s runway 27L. – Allah is Great.”

Pause….
Saudi Air : “MELBOURNE TOWER – MELBOURNE TOWER !”

Melbourne Tower : “Go ahead Saudi Air 511…”

Saudi Air : “YOU HAVE CLEARED BOTH OUR AIRCRAFT FOR THE SAME RUNWAY GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTION. WE ARE ON A COLLISION COURSE . … .. .. … INSTRUCTIONS, PLEASE!”

Melbourne Tower : “Proceed to your destination and tell Allah we said “Hi”.
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May 27, 2017 9:31pm
- Kea
  
  It would be even funnier if one of the planes was full of Jews don’t you think ?
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:42pm
  - nasska
    
    Nah!
    
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    May 27, 2017 9:44pm
    - Kea
      
      You are right. I should have said both planes packed full of Jews.
      
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      May 27, 2017 9:55pm
      - Manolo
        
        Your antisemitism got the worst of you, Kea. Nasska beat you fair and square.
        
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        May 28, 2017 6:31am
Monique Watson

Well this is unfortunate:
http://www.sundayregister.com/nude-sunbather-singapore-beach-injured-crab-mistakes-vagina-oyster/
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May 27, 2017 9:45pm
- Kea
  
  They tried to suck the poison out ! 🙂
  
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  May 27, 2017 9:58pm
  - sam green
    
    What good friends they are.
    
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    May 27, 2017 10:12pm
Manolo

Uber-corrupt crooked Hillary has more lives than a cat:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/hillary-clinton-life-after-election.html
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May 28, 2017 6:28am
Manolo

American stephieboy:
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/man-sues-little-caesars-claiming-false-halal-label/ar-BBBzQUf?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=mailsignout

A Muslim man is suing Little Caesars for $100 million after he says he was served and then accidentally ate pepperoni made with pork, a food prohibited by Islamic law.
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