General Debate 19 May 2017

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krazykiwi

More truth is heard on the forecourts of used car yards, than in discussions about Trump
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May 19, 2017 8:00am
- William of Ockham
  
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  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-vladimir-putin-secret-backchannel-michael-flynn-campaign-a7742231.html
  Donald Trump campaign repeatedly met with Russia to set up secret communications channel, report reveals
  
  Donald Trump’s campaign made contact with Russia at least 18 times during his presidential race, according to a new report.
  
  The interactions had previously been kept secret by the campaign but are now being reviewed as part of the FBI and congressional investigation into Trump’s relationship with Russia.
  
  Conversations between members of Trump’s team and high-ranking officials including setting up a special backchannel for communications between the President and Putin, Reuters reported. That would allow the two talk without involving US national security officials.
  
  Potus orangutanus. Gone by Christmas…
  
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  May 19, 2017 8:01am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    William of Ockham’s repetitive rhetoric; probably “hidden due to low rating” by 9am ?
    
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    May 19, 2017 8:09am
    - Im Right
      
      To be honest KS, it’s rather a sad reflection that someone composes a post, with links, and sits there with their eyes on the clock countdown ready with their finger hovering above the ‘send’ button so he/she can be the first to post, they may think it’s great, I merely think it’s sad and that person is either retired and angry with the world or unemployed and still angry with the world…nothing else adds up. (ohhh and his post is2nd today, he will be GUTTED! 🙂 )
      
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      May 19, 2017 8:21am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Quite so Im Right. I occasionally hit the GD right on 8am, but that’s because it coincides with arriving at my office and turning the computer back on. It’s certainly not a scheduled task on my calendar. I think William probably has too much time on his hands.
        
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        May 19, 2017 8:43am
      - Biscuit
        
        I’m Right, 8.21am.
        
        I was in Kiwiblog yesterday afternoon j-u-s-t as DPF made his post about that doltish Green co-leader’s ‘Hitler’ comment and I just happened to be the very first replier.
        
        The power, heh heh…
        
        I’m not going to turn into a WoO and have a post ready to hit ENTER on the moment a General Debate makes its daily appearance but I can now appreciate his motivation!
        
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        May 19, 2017 10:17am
      - cmm
        
        If he has all this time on his hands and is genuinely fearful then maybe his time would be better spent growing a long beard, building a big boat and learning how to count up to two.
        
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        May 19, 2017 1:08pm
    - pdm
      
      I did my bit Inv.
      
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      May 19, 2017 8:47am
    - krazykiwi
      
      By 8:54. Average performance team. We can do better!
      
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      May 19, 2017 8:58am
  - Paulus
    
    Will this enquiry cover Hillary’s romps with Russia ?
    
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    May 19, 2017 8:13am
    - G152
      
      Selective amnesia set in with that one.
      
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      May 19, 2017 8:17am
      - stephieboy
        
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        DP,
        
        if people like you and others make claims about Hillary Clinton then surely the onus is on you and them to provide the factual details .
        
        Not retreat behind the obfuscation and smokescreen of Google is my friend etc !
        
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        May 19, 2017 8:47am
    - stephieboy
      
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      What romps ?
      
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      May 19, 2017 8:20am
      - Kleva Kiwi
        
        Hillarys on record with at least as many, if not more meetings with the Russians…
        
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        May 19, 2017 8:27am
      - stephieboy
        
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        klevakiwi,
        
        Sources ?
        
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        May 19, 2017 8:30am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Stephie
        There is this thing, called the internet.
        
        And on the internet there is this other thing called Google.
        
        Amazingly rather than typing in “Proof” or “Evidence” every time someone posts something that doesn’t fit with your ‘feelings’ you can go and check for yourself.
        
        I know that would involve you taking the red pill and that’s never going to happen – but I’m an optimist about everything and I have hope for you.
        
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        May 19, 2017 8:36am
      - holysheet
        
        Never mind the red pill. As an ex possum trapper, I had access to cyanide. I am sure I could find a little sample for stupidboy. Put him and us out of our misery, once and for all.
        
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        May 19, 2017 9:12am
    - Nermal
      
      And the Saudis
      
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      May 19, 2017 11:56am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Over by Christmas last intoned in 1914 and look how that turned out
    
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    May 19, 2017 8:20am
    - RalphT
      
      Ah yes, four more years.
      
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      May 19, 2017 8:47am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  You are absolutely correct, but that is because, in discussions about Trump, it is generally Trump who is speaking!
  
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  May 19, 2017 2:55pm
mikenmild

Here’s one for D4J, starboard and the rest of the Hagley Park crowd:
Happy Hepatitis Testing Day!
https://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/heppromoresources.htm
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May 19, 2017 8:08am
- stigie
  
  Yes Milky, he love you long time at Hagley Park !~
  
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  May 19, 2017 11:38am
  - starboard
    
    oh ok then..ya better send Mum along as well mm.
    Fancy suggesting we have Hepatitis..how rude.
    
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    May 19, 2017 12:07pm
  - starboard
    
    Autism..I now understand mm a little better.
    
    “The range and severity of symptoms can vary widely. Common symptoms include difficulty with communication, difficulty with social interactions, obsessive interests and repetitive behaviours”.
    
    The latter, wanking in front of a mirror and screaming out his own name..according to his mum.
    
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    May 19, 2017 12:25pm
- dad4justice
  
  What a coward mouldymike. Such a timid creep that wouldn’t dare say that to a person face to face. Blogosphere is made for gutless jellyfish like yourself.
  
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  May 19, 2017 4:43pm
Dafixeruppa

I must apologise to all.
Yesterday I made a comment about Judges not being perfect, but trying to do the best they can, especially in relation to children.

Today I see this… http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11858669

WTF was the judge thinking? Perhaps it is time to bring in mandatory drug and alcohol testing of judges that make stupid f*****d up comments and decisions like this.
Why else would a male go into a girls bedroom, remove some of her clothes and touch her if it was not sexual???

This judge should be shot!!!!!

(Yes I know any more than 3 ! shows an unhinged mind… mine is becoming more and more unhinged each day)
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May 19, 2017 8:11am
- gravedodger
  
  My untrained mind sees removal of clothing as compelling evidence, clearly that judge has a more complex view.
  One wonders how it would be viewed if it was their child, such naivety.
  
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  May 19, 2017 8:20am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I concur GD. I can only speculate from the story that the offender was in some sort of relationship with the girl’s mother, to have unfettered access to the child’s bedroom.
    
    The fact that Madden pleaded guilty to the charge of indecent assault in itself implies a sexual connotation. The NZ Police website describes indecent assault as “unwanted sexual touching”.
    
    http://www.police.govt.nz/advice/sexual-assault/sexual-assault-and-consent
    
    This certainly seems to be a very “soft” judgment from Judge Thomas Ingram. I hope the Chief District Court Judge calls him up for a “please explain”.
    
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    May 19, 2017 8:56am
    - waikatogirl
      
      What the hell was he thinking, a ‘baby sitter’.
      What grown man removes a 12 year olds clothing while she is in bed unless she is physically unable to undress herself to get ready to go to sleep, or he has sexual intent!!
      Was the judge drunk!?
      
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      May 19, 2017 10:15am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      You can live in hope. We need a system to get rid of stupid incompetent judges.
      
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      May 19, 2017 10:27am
- KevOB
  
  You have to have been in Court to sort this one out. The maximum sentence was imposed and some of the likely interchange between bench and counsel about sentencing, possible legal issues or public ones, seems to have been used for a headline. I discovered long ago reporters do not report. Anything they hear may appear presented completely inverted contrary to reasonable expectations. Its pot luck with them unless it’s a paid advertisement.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:06am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Not quite KevOB; the maximum sentence of home detention was imposed (according to the report), but the maximum penalty for indecent assault is seven years imprisonment. On that basis, it seems a very soft sentence.
    
    There’s also no mention in the story as to whether or not Madden was awarded a “strike” for the offence he pleaded guilty to.
    
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    May 19, 2017 9:26am
    - KevOB
      
      Not being in Court we will never know. The Prosecution stance is important too. That appears in the choice of charges and the summary of facts presented which may be influenced by arrangement with the Police. The wording can seriously point the judge to an outcome. Police leave may be at stake and the offender gets compensated for assisting that by plea agreements and a not so hostile statement of facts which are in the gift of the Police. Overall we have an excellent judiciary and Police. Any serious faulty decision of a District Court can be dealt with on appeal by either side. There are often supplementary issues that could have been dealt with and semi formal back and forth between Police, Judge and Counsel. No one wants a trial to be continued because of legal doubts.
      
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      May 19, 2017 12:26pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Not even put on the sexual offenders register as it wasn’t sexual, hopefully the verdict is appealed.
      
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      May 19, 2017 12:51pm
- cmm
  
  Unfortunately we can’t vote them out.
  
  Does this judge think the bloke was maybe just a fashion designer interested in the drape of the clothing she was wearing?
  
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  May 19, 2017 1:12pm
mandk

A little taste of what would happen, if the Palestinians were to gain control of Eretz Israel:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39939611
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May 19, 2017 8:13am
- krazykiwi
  
  More foreign aid per capita than anywhere on earth.
  
  Surrounded by energy-rich fellow Arabs who have stopped supplying diesel.
  
  Their free electricity now supplied by Israel, whom they’ve vowed to destroy.
  
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  May 19, 2017 8:32am
oldpark

Who would have thought that there was a worse rat bag lurking in the joined at the hip Lie-bour/Green party than the friar tuck look-a-like. Seem Angry Andy Little,who it has been documented once said “employers were parasites”,has taken umbrage to the bug eyed joint leader James Shaw’s comments on President Trump,when he likened him to Hitler, the murderer of tens of millions of innocent people in the last war.Shaw with his vicious gutter comments has lost all credibility for his party,if they had any.and has confirmed that MMP ,was never meant to allow a bunch of clowns and dead beats to ,to sit in our Parliament ,like Shaw and co.
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May 19, 2017 8:13am
- niggly
  
  Time for MMP to be restructured – just a quick random thought, how about a 75/25% split instead of 50/50%? (Or let the experts fine tune the ratio).
  
  Eg increase electorate MP’s to 90 and List MP’s decrease to 30 etc?
  
  That way we get better electorate representation but less bludging List MP’s indulging in their pet projects? The result less tail wagging.
  
  In theory National definitely, and perhaps ACT, UF & Maori Party should support this (the last 3 due to them having electorate MP’s), so should Labour definitely, and so should perhaps maybe NZF (if they could make their minds up on anything, seeing they usually win electorate seats, of course they wouldn’t though).
  
  The only loser would be the Green Party, which would be well deserved considering they’ve been in Parliament for 20 years or so and are too welded to http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?aec_page=comment-editor.php&action=editcomment&cid=1932584&pid=109231&_wpnonce=50858492eb&height=435&width=560their actual non-Green activist political goals to actually want to be constructive and contribute no matter which major party is in power. Oh dear, what a shame! 🙂
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:18am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Can’t work as can’t achieve the proportionality required with so few list MPs, National won 41 electorate seats in 2014, that would be 61ish seats if scaled up to 90 electorates would be 51% of MP’s, and yet got 47% of vote. Labour got 25% of vote and 27 electorate wins=43 seats if scaled up to 90 electorates would be 36% of all MPs.
    
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    May 19, 2017 9:46am
  - Biscuit
    
    Agreed, Niggly.
    
    What HAVE the Greens achieved in all their years in Parliament?
    
    They won’t work with National (or anyone allied with National).
    
    Winston won’t work with them.
    
    Labour regard them as a plaything – happy to have, but easy to toss aside if, for example, a deal wth Winston requires no Greenies in Cabinet.
    
    I say it again: it is ludicrous in a country like New Zealand, where everyone appreciates the environment, for the sole pro-Environment party to pitch itself so far left that only the extremists want a bar of them.
    
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    May 19, 2017 10:24am
    - Dafixeruppa
      
      But they are not pro-environment and haven’t been for a while. They are very red and little to no green except when trying to hide their red underbelly
      
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      May 19, 2017 11:12am
  - cmm
    
    Well we asked for changes in 1999, but we got ignored.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_MP_reduction_referendum,_1999
    
    For the most part MMP is broken because it does not fit with most people’s understanding of how it works.
    
    Most people don’t realise that the elected seats eat into the number of list seats. ie. only your proportional vote really determines the number of seats (except for very minor parties).
    
    The other things is that list MPs don’t really represent a specific group of people (like elected MPs do). For the most part they are just counting tokens to vote whatever way the party decides. So why not just give the party leader 5 or 10 or whatever votes and get rid of list MPs?
    
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    May 19, 2017 1:20pm
- KevOB
  
  James Shaw is a single issue blinkered horse. Labour should avoid the green muck as it will soil them for responsible government.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:20am
G152

Hopefully, though I shan’t hold my breath, the Speaker will allow a little barracking of the peculiarities of the co-leader next session
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May 19, 2017 8:21am
Huevon

My formative years were shaped by Soundgarden and all those Seattle bands. Damn shame Chris Cornell couldn’t have made it one more time around.
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May 19, 2017 8:25am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Love his voice, but he had struggled with drug issues for 30 years, and killed himself – so really he left on his own terms. Not a tragedy (except for his family and friends)
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:51am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    he had 3 adolescent kids 17, 13, 12, so I revise my opinion; selfish arsehole.
    
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    May 19, 2017 11:17am
stephieboy

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Demonization of Soros recalls old anti-Semitic conspiracies

WARSAW, Poland (AP) ” In most nations, having a billionaire financier and philanthropist would be a source of great pride, a person many elected officials would want to cozy up to.
Not for George Soros.
The demonization of the American-Hungarian billionaire and Holocaust survivor has spread from Hungary and Moscow across Europe and into the United States, with the 86-year-old increasingly accused by nationalists of using his money to force his liberal values, including support for refugees, on their societies.

And it’s not just those on the fringes, but elected officials who are attributing all manner of sins to Soros, a political strategy that seems aimed at de-legitimizing projects that Soros has supported in Central and Eastern Europe’s transition to democracy.

This groundswell began in late 2015, as large numbers of migrants and refugees were arriving in Europe. A far-right nationalist at an anti-refugee rally in Poland set fire to an effigy of an Orthodox Jew as a crowd chanted slogans against Islam and the European Union. The man said the Jewish figure represented Soros.

It wasn’t always this way. In 2012, Poland’s then-president, Bronislaw Komorowski, bestowed one of the country’s highest orders on Soros, thanking him for his contributions to a nascent democratic civil society after communism.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11856726

Sad how this nasty Soros conspiracy theory has infected many Trump supoorters .
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May 19, 2017 8:32am
- EAD
  
  I have literally just read this article on shocking hypocrisy and chutzpah and immediately thought of you Stephieboy. Let me know your thoughts.
  
  http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2017/05/dear-fellow-white-people.html?m=0
  
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  May 19, 2017 8:35am
- holysheet
  
  See stupidboy can use the internet and google when he wants to.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:16am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  I have no problem with Soros. But I have consistently supported the right of people to spend their own money, whether openly or anonymously, on trying to influence the outcome of elections. Not many on the left can say that.
  
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  May 19, 2017 10:09am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Do you think it’s appropriate for citizens from one country to spend money trying to influence the Elections in another country?
    Because that’s what Soros does.
    
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    May 19, 2017 10:16am
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , like the election counting machines he was alledged to have installed in 16 states ?
      
      http://www.snopes.com/george-soros-controls-smartmatic-voting-machines-in-16-states/
      
      LOL
      
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      May 19, 2017 10:30am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      All on Red:
      
      Yes I think private citizens have an absolute right to express opinions on any political issue in any country, and to spend as much money as they wish on communicating those opinions to as many people as they wish.
      
      In fact, privately owned media outlets here in NZ campaigned against Trump in basically the same way Soros did.
      
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      May 19, 2017 1:01pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        You’ve avoided my question which relates to foreigners actively advocating politically and funding those advocates IN countries other than their own.
        Soros funds activists in the US yet he is Hungarian.
        The parallel would be Soros funding groups here in NZ to say stop Labour getting elected.
        I mean seriously, are you ok with foreign billionaires interfering in other countries democratic processes?
        
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        May 19, 2017 2:06pm
      - cha
        
        Soros funds activists in the US yet he is Hungarian.
        
        Soros became an American citizen in 1961.
        
        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/1993-08-22/the-man-who-moves-markets
        
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        May 19, 2017 2:16pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Poland then.
        
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        May 19, 2017 2:20pm
      - cha
        
        Robert Mercer.
        
        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/robert-mercer-brexit-nigel-farage-donald-trump-breitbart-facebook-advertisement-cambridge-analytica-a7600041.html
        
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        May 19, 2017 2:23pm
  - Paulus
    
    It is reported that Soros lost around a Billion dollars on backing Hillary.
    But he will be on to Chelsea as she has Soros as an uncle by marriage I understand, now that Hillary is setting up her own party
    
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    May 19, 2017 10:50am
- rangitoto
  
  Soros is the guy funding the anti brexit campaigner Gina Miller right?
  
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  May 19, 2017 10:14am
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Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/05/links-19-may-2017/#comment-2872008 … with interesting Irish Sun post … Are the Irish belatedly waking up about housing ? …

12+ years on since the release of the 1st Demographia Survey early 2005, Kiwi politicians should know by now what ‘affordable’ is.

What part of “3” don’t they understand ?

Kiwibuild and the Crown Building Project – how will they affect you? | Stuff.co.nz

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92721466/kiwibuild-and-the-crown-building-project–how-will-they-affect-you

… extract …

… So how expensive is the country’s largest city, Auckland?

Earlier this year it was named the fourth least affordable housing market among 92 major cities in nine countries.

The figures from the latest Demographia survey revealed 10 times the median household income in Auckland is needed to buy a median-priced house, which cost $830,810. … read more via hyperlink above …

2013 13th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey

http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf

DEFINITION OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING MARKET

For metropolitan areas to rate as ‘affordable’ and ensure that housing bubbles are not triggered, housing prices should not exceed three times gross annual household earnings. To allow this to occur, new starter housing of an acceptable quality to the purchasers, with associated commercial and industrial development, must be allowed to be provided on the urban fringes at 2.5 times the gross annual median household income of that urban market (refer Demographia Survey Schedules for guidance).

The critically important Development Ratios for this new fringe starter housing, should be 17 – 23% serviced lot / section cost – the balance the actual housing construction.

Ideally through a normal building cycle, the Median Multiple should move from a Floor Multiple of 2.3, through a Swing Multiple of 2.5 to a Ceiling Multiple of 2.7 – to ensure maximum stability and optimal medium and long term performance of the residential construction sector.
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May 19, 2017 8:33am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Captain M, your client I believe
  
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  May 19, 2017 8:50am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  Talk about a blundering incompetent Government … 9 weary years on … just extraordinary …
  
  Govt to build Auckland houses: What about Tauranga? – National – NZ Herald News
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11857768
  
  The Government’s announcement that it will build 34,000 homes in Auckland in the next decade has left local politicians wondering: “What about Tauranga?”
  
  Tauranga and the Western Bay is the ninth most unaffordable area in the world, according to an international affordability survey. The average house price is 9.7 times the average annual household income – only slightly behind Auckland at 10.0, and ahead of places like Los Angeles (9.2) and London (8.5).
  
  The Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey deems any ratio above 5.1 “severely unaffordable”. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  May 19, 2017 8:55am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    What’s “extraordinary” Hugh, is how many times you have mentioned the Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey or linked to it, without drawing the ire of the host, whose hospitality on this blog you are abusing.
    
    We get the point, but any credibility you may have on the housing issue is diluted when you come here day after day to beat us over the head with your opinions. And remember, opinions are like arseholes; everyone has them.
    
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    May 19, 2017 9:32am
    - Sponge
      
      I couldn’t agree more. It is not my place to tell you to fuck off but if it was, I would.
      
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      May 19, 2017 9:55am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
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        THE BLUNDERING INCOMPETENCE OF THIS GOVERNMENT IS INTOLERABLE …
        
        The sad reality guys is that there has been no competent political leadership on the housing issues, since this Government took office near 9 years ago … November 2008.
        
        Here is John Key in 2007 for heavens sake … watch & weep …
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
        
        https://www.google.co.nz/?gws_rd=ssl#q=john+key+housing+reform+2007&spf=1495145175295
        
        Read closely what I had to say 23 January … at the time of the release of this years Demographia Survey … NEW ZEALANDS HOUSING CONSENSUS: WHERE IS THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP ? …
        
        http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2017/01/auckland-worlds-fourth-hardest-to-buy.html
        
        … and the screeds and screeds of other stuff up on my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
        
        Clearly … this crowd must be thrown out of Government 23 September.
        
        The blundering incompetence is just intolerable.
        
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        May 19, 2017 10:16am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Keeping Stock … the BoP Times / Herald article was not written by me.
      
      What we have now is an incompetent government in panic mode … digging even bigger holes for itself.
      
      I am getting a lot of feedback from them internally that morale is plummeting … as they are becoming increasingly aware they are heading for a big hiding 23 September.
      
      Captain ‘Costa Concordia’ Key bailed late last year because he simply wasn’t prepared to ‘face the music’ in 2017.
      
      Check out the GONE GONE GOING section of my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
      
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      May 19, 2017 10:37am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        When you have to resort to petty name-calling Hugh, you have lost the argument.
        
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        May 19, 2017 10:52am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Very odd how the Tories haven’t given a fig about this these past 9 years … why ? …
        
        Rise in childless couples? Blame the bubble … Leith van Onselen … MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/05/rise-childless-couples-blame-bubble/
        
        By Leith van Onselen
        
        Earlier this week, The ABC published a report arguing that childless couples will be Australia’s most common family type by 2023:
        
        One sociologist says the trend is already happening, and future government policy will determine whether the traditional family model continues to exist.
        
        For many millennials… changing financial and social realities are important factors in the choice to have kids. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        May 19, 2017 11:24am
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘I am getting a lot of feedback etc…’
        
        I call bullshit on that. Why would they talk to someone who slimes them as “Tories”.
        
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        May 19, 2017 2:16pm
    - howitis
      
      I have mentioned this about a year ago, KS.
      
      Hugh the Dali comes onto DPFs blog and tries to direct people away with multiple URLs to ‘another place’.
      Perhaps Hugo’s own site is such a barren wasteland due to the river of crap that flows daily, that he tries to hijack DPFs site which is known for a high tolerance level.
      
      He projects as a Nasty and judging by the amount of downticks he is clearly, very clearly, not appreciated with his obsessive rants here.
      Pavletich is a Nasty. Maybe his girlfriend is Ashley Judd.
      Here I redirect you to exhibit 1.
      Just one redirect I swear!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXSN-HHowhc
      Ashley Judd Full Insane Speech at “Women’s March” about Nasties.
      
      Or maybe Hugo has been exposed to too much flyspray and he has Autism as a result thereby he just does not realise what a gormless chump he is and has no normal emotive response to stimulus.
      Autism symptoms:-
      “The range and severity of symptoms can vary widely. Common symptoms include difficulty with communication, difficulty with social interactions, obsessive interests and repetitive behaviours”.
      
      Gee I think we are onto something here.
      If Hugo has Autism then some sympathy and I apologise for my NASTY comments above.
      
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      May 19, 2017 12:09pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” Arthur Schopenhauer
        
        Great to see Hugh riling up the protectionists.
        
        I hope your big ponzy scheme blows up in ya face!
        
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        May 19, 2017 8:30pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      Maybe David appreciates Hugh’s contributions Keeping?
      
      I think you will find that David understands and appreciates/RESPECTS the 1000’s of hours Hugh P has contributed to housing reform in this country.
      
      What is clear to me, is that there are a lot of ‘protectionists’ on this site who are shit scared of any radical reform to housing in this country.
      
      To them I say GO TO HELL. FUCK THE LOT OF YOU!!!
      
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      May 19, 2017 8:27pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Quickly Capt’n please
    
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    May 19, 2017 9:36am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Sorry Paulus I’m leaving him alone today because he’s showing signs of boiling himself up into a frenzy.
      I don’t want to be around when he explodes.
      
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      May 19, 2017 11:35am
      - stigie
        
        Yes, yes, yes, it’s been a while now since we had a decent meltdown !~
        
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        May 19, 2017 11:52am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        It appears the Nick Smith affliction of hyperventilating has infected his supporters here on Kiwiblog !
        
        The high quality material I have posted needs to be read calmly and carefully considered fellow Tories.
        
        Housing is THE NUMBER ONE political issue going in to the election 23 September … thanks to the gross incompetence of the current National – led Government.
        
        Why didn’t they start in to sorting it responsibly out of the 2008 election … as promised ?
        
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        May 19, 2017 4:09pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        PROPOSED …NATIONAL PARTY RE-EDUCATION PROGRAMME POST 23 SEPTEMBER ELECTION ? …
        
        Following THE GREAT FLUSHING 23 September, I think it would be an excellent idea if the new National Party leader could get underway a re-education programme for members under the broad theme … REDISCOVERING LIBERTY & MARKETS.
        
        It would be good if the first lecture could be by the former Deputy Editor of the UK Tory / Telegraph Allister Heath … on the importance of affordable housing …
        
        The real ticking time bomb for the Tories is home ownership … Allister Heath … UK Telegraph
        
        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/11917816/The-real-ticking-time-bomb-for-the-Tories-is-home-ownership.html
        
        … There is not much that the French do better than us these days when it comes to economics. Housing is the glaring, humiliating exception: for the first time in a generation, France’s homeownership rate has overtaken Britain’s. … read more via hyperlink above
        
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        May 19, 2017 4:52pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Gordon Campbell on housing, exploding lap-tops & Jon Taplin … Scoop NZ
        
        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1705/S00080/gordon-campbell-on-housing-exploding-lap-tops-jon-taplin.htm
        
        OK, and since we’re all barrelling towards the Budget and beyond … how useful a thing really is National’s programme of building 34,000 houses, as a solution to the crisis of housing affordability? Answer: not very. The details are here.
        
        Evidently, only 13,500 of this new build will be state houses/social housing and much of that will be catch-up, since the government will reportedly be demolishing 8,300 state homes over the same period. The other 20,600? About 80% will be sold privately, at the going market rate. So there’s precious little joy for aspiring first homeowners, or the homeless. Not at the stratospheric level of market prices in Auckland, or – increasingly – in Wellington as well, where house prices have risen by 21.2% over the past year.
        
        Oh, and of that “sold privately” portion – some 20% or just over 4,000 homes, are being classified as “affordable”. Under a prior government definition, this means about $650,000 in Auckland. Is this really an “affordable” price? For trust fund kids, maybe. Not for many other people. Earlier this year, the international housing affordability think tank Demographia – using prices from the third quarter of 2016 – ranked Auckland as the fourth most unaffordable city in the world, among 94 major cities and 406 areas overall. That survey can be accessed here. … read more via hyperlink above
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        .
        2017 13th Annual Demographia international Housing Affordability Survey
        
        http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf
        
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        May 20, 2017 2:00am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Rodney … Thank you for your kind comments !
        
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        May 20, 2017 2:09am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … When is HOUSING HOPE being restored to those living in Australia and New Zealand … as experienced by poor Italian immigrants Carmine (Charlie) and Concetta Picerno in the 1960’s ? …
        
        Housing affordability: Brisbane families share sacrifices they made to buy their first homes | Susan Johnson | The Courier-Mail
        
        http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/housing-affordability-brisbane-families-share-sacrifices-they-made-to-buy-their-first-homes/news-story/ac9b5053089e32fbbe4a9d3a2b116a34
        
        WHEN Italian migrant Carmine (Charlie) Picerno came to Brisbane in 1969 from a small farm outside Colliano, in the province of Salerno south of Naples, home ownership in Australia was still an achievable dream.
        
        Picerno, now 83, comes from a long line of agricultural workers and shepherds. His forebears lived off the land, growing their own food, sharing or bartering any excess with fellow farmers. But after the devastation of World War II, Picerno (who had been too young to fight himself) left Salerno ¬in the ’50s – like many other men – to earn money rebuilding a flattened Europe. He worked on projects in Germany and France, sending cash home to his wife Concetta. By 1969, they had a nine-year-old daughter, Maria, and a one-year old baby boy, Gerardo (Gerry), but Picerno hardly saw them. …
        
        … For an increasing number of Australians, the dream has turned into a nightmare. The typical Australian house now costs 5.6 times the median household income, meaning Australia is one of the world’s least affordable countries, according to a list put out annually by US urban policy consultancy Demographia. Prior to Australia’s property boom in the late 1980s, most Australian cities – including Brisbane – had house-price-to-income ratios of around three or less, which Demographia classes as “affordable”. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        May 20, 2017 2:59am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … The Irish authorities have not learnt a thing near 10 years on from 2007 housing crash … that put their Banks to the wall …
        
        This country still needs to get its houses in order ten years after the financial crisis began … The Irish Sun
        
        https://www.thesun.ie/news/1006506/this-country-still-needs-to-get-its-houses-in-order-ten-years-after-the-financial-crisis-began/
        
        Lucinda Creighton – Wikipedia
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucinda_Creighton
        
        Louise Roberts: Housing affordability in Australia may mean my children will never move out | DailyTelegraph
        
        http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/were-condemning-our-kids-to-a-life-of-debt-and-they-may-leave/news-story/7723a8892ef8188f3a3cce8b4eaa6923
        
        ‘Don’t give me the mums and dads spiel’: ScoMo grilled over housing affordability … The New Daily
        
        http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/news-federal-budget/2017/05/15/morrison-town-hall-housing/
        
        Treasurer Scott Morrison encountered the angry face of the housing affordability crisis on Monday night as he fronted a town hall of voters one week after handing down the federal budget.
        
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        May 20, 2017 3:16am
- KevOB
  
  Theory, theory theory. Now deal with an actual market. When the prices are already 6+ x average annual earnings and fuelled by temporary external cheap money how do you move prices down? At best you have to wait for the inevitable adjustment. Costs get inflated too so producing new houses to supply below market is almost impossible and why should commercial operators gift their profits to potential purchasers? That only leaves charities as possible suppliers in bubble markets. Even governments will struggle to produce “cheap” housing.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:30am
- starboard
  
  30 and goodbye Hugh..come on team !
  
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  May 19, 2017 12:14pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Have you sent that kiddy fiddler back to Afghanistan yet Starboard or is no one listening.
    
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    May 19, 2017 2:09pm
    - starboard
      
      Only the good people on KB seem to be listening Happychappy..but its ok, it aint going away.. elections not too far away so I will rattle cage louder and closer to the time, hopefully a few here will bombard Woodhouse/English with a few” please explains”..it might then sink in, I doubt they will want ali akbari being highlighted come September.
      
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      May 19, 2017 3:42pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    “come on team”
    
    you having a circle wank starboard?
    
    “come on team”
    
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    May 19, 2017 8:33pm
Keeping Stock

The Whanganui District Council is currently hearing submissions to its District Plan.

This week they have heard a submission from the Living Wage Group, that council should pay all its staff at least the “living wage” of $20.20/hour. Here’s how they suggested that could be achieved:

Mayor Hamish McDouall asked submitters how they suggested council meet the $122,000 in additional wages. He said the options were increasing rates, dis-establishing three or four jobs, or cutting funding somewhere else.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503426&objectid=11858461

There are a number of problems here. Firstly, what is the sense in firing three or four people so that others can get a pay rise? That makes no sense at all.

Secondly, what services are they proposing be cut? That leaves one option; hiking rates.

But the true cost of this will be far greater than the $122k paid to the staff involved. Every other staff member in the WDC structure can legitimately ask for a pay rise, to preserve the relativity between jobs that they currently enjoy. For example, the person who supervises the staff who are going to enjoy a pay rise is not going to be happy if (s)he is only earning $21/hour currently, and will want their hourly rate increased. Justifiably so too. That will spread upwards throughout the organisation, and the real cost is likely to be over a million dollars per annum. That would require far more than “dis-establishing three or four jobs”; wholesale pruning or an unaffordable increase in rates would be the result.

Whilst the intentions of those pushing the living wage may be honourable, the negatives for the business community and local government far outweigh the benefits, especially in a place such as Whanganui where the cost of living is significantly less than in the main centres. I hope the Whanganui District Council declines this proposal.
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May 19, 2017 8:34am
- 4077th
  
  This comes from the same town where the river is a “person”. Why are you so surprised KS? Another city infected with marxists on the take.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:25am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I guess it’s only a coincidence that the Mayor of Whanganui is a three-time Labour Party candidate, with a perfect record in his contests with Chester Borrows in General Elections…
    
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    May 19, 2017 9:34am
- oldpark
  
  @KS 8.34AM
  
  Living wage what a scam. The loud mouth Lie-bour/Green Party infested Wellington City Council mayor, a run with the hares and hunt with the hounds,a guy called Justin Lester.who without by your leave ,announced a 90/100 million dollar earthquake strength scheme to a tired old building long past its use by date,because it was his pet fancy . They also brought in the so called living wage. I have noticed since that happened services have taken a back seat. Talk about bang for your buck,there was better value when the wages were lesser. Seems because the wages are higher,for doing less or nothing,more and more litter is appearing all over the city,and as for grass cutting in parks and berms,what a disgrace. Maybe they also fired some employees. Yet the rates have been levied to support the grand fancy ideas of a so called goody two shoes like Lester,seems using other peoples money,is no problem for the closet socialist mayor.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:29am
- KevOB
  
  The Living Wage originates in an UK political movement.
  What not commented on is the Anglican Priest commissioned to set the pay scales for NZ had the Auckland rate then about $6 higher. The lower rate seems to have been politically more expedient to promote.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:36am
- VicParking
  
  Well written Keeping Stock.
  Also the workers from “Loa-ucks” will look at the workers at Council and say we want more money as well. That will increase the Contract costs that council use, result rate increases. I can see the $122k blowing out to $500k or more by the time it trickes through Whanganui and back to council as increased costs.
  
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  May 19, 2017 10:32am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    The other trickle down Vic is that for business people like She Who Must Be Obeyed and myself, it makes it harder to recruit good staff, even though the vast majority of our staff are earning at least the “living wage”. We have a school leaver and a student doing a few hours at a lower rate (but above minimum wage), but generally, our staff are very well paid.
    
    What will happen though is that employers who are paying admin or other staff in the $17-19/hour range will now have to compete in the job market with the council paying upwards of $20. People will follow the dollar, so small businesses will be forced to increase their wages, even if they can’t afford to, if they want to attract good staff. It’s a vicious circle, and once again the poor buggers that put their own money on the line to run businesses and employ staff will be the hardest hit.
    
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    May 19, 2017 11:00am
- Paulus
  
  Remember the Mayor Hamish Douall is a Labour Party hack and has stood for them in the Wanganui seat (and got beated).
  
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  May 19, 2017 10:56am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Not once, not twice, but thrice Paulus. And his name is Hamish McDouall
    
    2008 – Borrows by 6833
    2011 – Borrows by 5046
    2014 – Borrows by 4505, after boundary changes which were estimated to be favourable to Labour by 1500 votes.
    
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    May 19, 2017 11:04am
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1-6
(Kane 4, Son 2)
COYS!
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May 19, 2017 8:40am
- VicParking
  
  Glory Glory Tottenham Hotspur, when the spurs go matching on.
  Goldern Boot for Kane.
  
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  May 19, 2017 10:36am
RF

I see the covered stadium is on the Xmas wish list for Christchurch.

Going to be a problem financing it before 2022 as the Christchurch Council has other plans for its cash.

The Canterbury Rugby Union boof heads are demanding that it be built now but will not contribute any money towards it and will let the rate payers foot the bill.

Roll on 2022.
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May 19, 2017 8:56am
- Keeping Stock
  
  All the Christchurch City Council needs to do is ask its Dunedin counterpart for the plans to Forsyth Barr Stadium. That should save a bomb in architects fees.
  
  Now that Hagley Park has been established as a cricket ground of international standard, the CCC should build a football-only stadium (for rugby, league and soccer), with a roof, and with a capacity of around 30,000.
  
  If we continue to have to watch rugby at night in the winter, at least let it be under cover. I can only imagine how much better the Crusaders v Hurricances match would have been last weekend had it been played on a dry track, rather than AMI Stadium with a heavy, wetting dew.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:02am
  - VicParking
    
    With all the liquifaction down in CHCH they should get Phils plans for the buried stadium.
    
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    May 19, 2017 10:38am
  - Paulus
    
    As long as I a taxpayer do not have to pay for it !
    
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    May 19, 2017 10:57am
krazykiwi

Jeremy Corbyn supporters arrange general election victory party – with 3,000 people planning to go.

Unionised workers from the midlands will be delighted to hear they’re helping the city folks kick up their heels.

As Corbyn’s long march through the [British] institutions is likely to kick off with the largest Labour defeat since WWII, perhaps the event organisers should ask for their deposit to be refundable 🙂
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May 19, 2017 8:56am
- 4077th
  
  At least the streets will be safer with the known whereabouts of 300o retards 🙂
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:27am
- cmm
  
  I think they stole that CGI software that Peter Jackson uses for battle scenes.
  
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  May 19, 2017 1:29pm
All_on_Red

http://gotnews.com/maxine-waters-poverty-pimp-posters-home-district/
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May 19, 2017 9:02am
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red , getting ready with your trowl , ship load of bricks and mortar bound for US/ Meican border ?
  
  LOL
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:21am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Here you go Stalker. Some weekend reading for you.
    http://www.dummies.com/education/language-arts/grammar/english-grammar-for-dummies-cheat-sheet/
    
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    May 19, 2017 9:46am
    - stephieboy
      
      DYO bricklaying course ,
      
      http://thebtc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/bricklaying.jpg
      
      LMAO !
      
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      May 19, 2017 10:36am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Nah, I’m catching sharks. President Trump wants “sharks with frickin lasers” for the moat.
        
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        May 19, 2017 11:35am
DifferentPerspective

Imagine if Trump did this

So – Macron the left-winger from Hollande’s socialist party that the lying MSM refer to as the “centrist” – even though he’s an ex investment banker (remember how evil John Key is for being one of them!) has started to tell media organisations which of their journalists can cover his trips!

I can see the word “despot” appearing once again.

Yet – when the globalists’ Macron does it – crickets!

Press freedom?
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May 19, 2017 9:11am
- KevOB
  
  The press only have freedom to the extent they report factually, honestly with full personal attribution of sources and without a biased viewpoint. They also cannot report that which is copyright, stolen or not lawfully in their possession or specifically required to be hidden. There are authorities to deal with matters they cannot publicly disclose. Reporting outside the boundaries is at least a disturbance of public order and probable propaganda.
  It’s long past time to remind these people of their limitations. They are not elected and have no more rights than anyone else.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:49am
Dafixeruppa

Sadly another utterance from the Labour side couched as news by our impartial saviors at RNZ.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thepanel/audio/201844338/more-teachers-for-5m

Apparently teachers finishing at teachers college are not entering the profession due to not earning as much as they would like.
From the words of the Missus Daf (a lawyer) Teachers entering the profession with no experience earn more for less hours work than lawyers entering the profession. Once they have been teaching long enough to gain the experience a primary school teacher actually earns more than a lawyer practicing family law for the government, who has been working for 3 times as long!

What this tells us, is that no matter how much you pay someone, there is always someone better off that they want to equate to and there are always people worse off, but there will always be someone who is prepared to push the barrow of saying those poor people are not earning enough.
By the way, even fresh out of training, teachers earn as much if not more than many other professions, it is only over the long term, that their earnings fall behind some other professions.
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May 19, 2017 9:13am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “it is only over the long term, that their earnings fall behind some other professions.”
  
  And that would not be the case if the unions would get out of the way and permit really good teachers to be paid what they’re worth.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:23am
- oldpark
  
  A teacher to start and finish their career ,thanks to their unions starts off at $49,000. Most they can earn if lucky and beat the system ,by maybe super arse licking $70,000. All this for such responsibility,caring for our young, and not so young.A lawyer attached to the family court,by way of a legal firm,can command circa $700 dollars an hour. Ceratinly beats the hell out of teaching.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:53am
  - Ross12
    
    My wife, a very experienced teacher, is currently working in Malaysia doing professional development work. After about 6-7 years teaching, the teachers over there are encouraged to make a choice : one way leads them in the direction of becoming deputy principal and principal (ie administration) in the future , the other way is to becoming an elite teacher. Both groups continue teaching in the mean time but their extra training takes into account their choice.
    The elite teachers can potentially earn more than the principal at the school. Also those who are to become principals have to go on a six month, full time special training course before they are appointed.
    A great system that allows the excellent teachers to stay in the classroom without forgoing potential salary increases as they do in NZ. But I cannot see the NZ Unions accepting anything like this because the other part of it is they all have their teaching ability assessed every couple of years.
    
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    May 19, 2017 10:47am
  - Dafixeruppa
    
    Actually it is not unheard of for a primary teacher of some limited seniority to be earning in excess of $78K
    
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    May 19, 2017 11:17am
- cmm
  
  Do you really want your kids’ minds in the hands of people who went to all the effort of getting teaching degrees without first figuring out what the career prospects were at the end?
  
  Those same people give equally shitty career advice yo the next generation.
  
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  May 19, 2017 1:33pm
Manolo

Will stephieboy side with these radicals?
http://freebeacon.com/issues/net-neutrality-supporters-want-ban-drudge/

Alt-left advocates for net neutrality, who say they want a “free and open internet,” want to ban the Drudge Report.
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May 19, 2017 9:14am
Manolo

It has proven to be contagious. Even some NZ political commentators and well-known bloggers have caught it:
https://www.axios.com/trumps-daily-challenge-to-normal-weighs-on-washington-2412636709.html

I’m not a doctor. But I have noticed a growing number of longtime Washingtonians in a prolonged, deep Trump-induced funk. It’s … Trumpression.

The daily challenge to “normal” — normal behavior, normal practices, normal responses — is grinding on people’s psyches.
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May 19, 2017 9:19am
Manolo

What has Mrs Merkel done?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4518270/Man-cut-fellow-migrant-s-eyelids-bit-ears.html

An Eritrean migrant who is alleged to have cut off a fellow asylum seeker’s eyelids and bit off his ears is said to have told his victim he was planning on eating his flesh.

The unnamed 20-year-old is on trial in Hanau, Hesse, accused of attempted murder and serious assault but may now face further charges of cannibalism after a police officer testified.
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May 19, 2017 9:29am
- cmm
  
  Merkel is probably practicing for her expected Nobel acceptance speech.
  
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  May 19, 2017 11:24am
DifferentPerspective

Thank goodness for Karl

He says what surely any sane adult would’ve thought about the Borrows prosecution!
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May 19, 2017 9:43am
Chuck Bird

Let us hope that justice is finally done for Stephen Dudley’s family. It is an outrage that both these young thugs got off without any penalty and permanent name suppression.

Stephen Dudley death: fresh charges would not be difficult for Crown

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=11858549
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May 19, 2017 10:49am
Paulus

I suspect that Judge Kit Toogood is having the time of his legal career listening to two retards throwing muck at each other in Court currently wasting an enormous time of the Courts in their puerile behaviour. Obviously paranoia has set in.
Some of the personal comments and rhetoric are better than the Goon Show.
They should both be ashamed of themselves as Toogood has often suggested.
A Dollar each way, and pay their own costs.
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May 19, 2017 11:03am
cmm

stephie: How about putting your money where your mouth is and making a deal:

If Trump is not gone by Christmas, 25 December 2017, will you go instead? Bye-bye, forever?

(Terms and Conditions: using the calendar we use and not some fucked up Muslim calendar)
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May 19, 2017 11:22am
Kea

“Demonization of Soros recalls old anti-Semitic conspiracies”

LOL 🙂

So much fail stupidboy…

When it comes to Jewish ties, no GOP candidate trumps Trump
Trump is from New York, works in professions saturated with Jews and long has been a vocal supporter of Israel. His daughter and two grandchildren are Jewish, the executive vice president of his organization is Jewish — and Trump certainly has chutzpah.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/when-it-comes-to-jewish-ties-no-gop-candidate-trumps-trump/
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May 19, 2017 12:30pm
- EAD
  
  I see Trump is contemplating super Jew Joe Lieberman as FBI Director. USA is even more ZOG than ever before with Trump in charge.
  
  https://www.infowars.com/trump-considering-joe-lieberman-for-fbi-director-spicer/
  
  “meet the new boss, same as the old boss”
  
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  May 19, 2017 5:37pm
  - Kea
    
    Yep. Trump must certainly have secured his place in heaven. If he commits genocide against the Persians he can be sure of it. Obama created the biggest humanitarian disaster of the modern age just in the preperation stage of the planned genocide.
    
    The best part is it will also give an excuse to kill another 25 million Russians, just like in the last holocaust of the Slavs. [note that is only Russians, not the total of all Slavs]
    
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    May 19, 2017 9:41pm
Inandout

Why aren’t these idiot criminals locked up sooner, instead of being let loose to kill and injure pedestrians? There was plenty of warning of his insanity.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/richard-rojas-times-square-car-crash-suspect-video-isis-terrorism-dui-facebook-photo/
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May 19, 2017 1:06pm
starboard

Criminal scum time.

Here’s a photo of your rangi average scumbag intruder/burglar.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/rodney-times/92732410/quick-thinking-neighbour-snaps-photo-of-would be-burglar.

***Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari must go***

Sexual predator/kiddy fiddler pedo Ali Akbari must be deported NOW. Why is he still in NZ. Woodhouse ?
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May 19, 2017 1:58pm
Michael

Re William of Ockham, aka Dennis Horne.
What I find sad is that 53 kiwibloggers have felt the need to down tick his comment made at 8.01 today.
I wonder how many of those down tickers actually disagree with him? Are they just down ticking him to get his comment “Hidden due to low comment rating”. If that is the case then it’s pretty childish behaviour in my ‘umble opinion. I daresay I will get a few down ticks for this comment, but personally I don’t give a damn.
I don’t up tick, and I don’t down tick. Why would I bother?
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May 19, 2017 2:14pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Why would we bother to read anything he writes when it is the same repetitious shit he always writes, he doesn’t bother to engage – and so just wasting 1000’s of peoples time (same behaviour every time, trying to get first post with his batty point of view, then not participating with discussion)? Just as for Penny Bright downticking is entirely appropriate treatment for anyone who is indulging in spiteful spoiling narcissistic behaviour to get people to notice them and make them feel important. Like a troll or tagger or toddler throwing a tantrum they should be censured in any way possible.
  
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  May 19, 2017 4:10pm
Rachael Membery

At my beach place I have been repeatedly warning off people that think that it is their right to trample over private property because they want to go floundering, I mentioned it to the local cop as I had taken number plate numbers which seems to have been effective, one lot came in three different cars on three ocassions even after I had pointed out politely that they were trespassing, third time they came back in numbers and ‘waved’ to me. I waved back and with my other hand I rang the police and reported them again.
Some people have no respect for others property rights. It seems to have done the trick, good on the neighbour.
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May 19, 2017 2:16pm
- Inandout
  
  And when they had vacated their cars suddenly their tyres were deflated; well that would have been my first move.
  
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  May 19, 2017 6:26pm
Manolo

Soros’ money goes a long way:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/18/george-soros-still-quietly-buying-district-attorneys-seats/

George Soros has all but bought another district attorney’s seat.

The left-wing billionaire turned the Philadelphia district attorney’s race on its head by giving $1.45 million to fund a super PAC in support of his preferred candidate, Larry Krasner. Krasner, a progressive lawyer who has never worked as a prosecutor, sailed to an easy victory in the Democratic primary on Tuesday. Because Philadelphia is a Democratic stronghold, Krasner’s primary victory all but guarantees him to win the general election in November.
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May 19, 2017 2:53pm
Fletch

The New York Times finally admits that the gender pay gap is because of motherhood, which is a woman’s choice.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/13/upshot/the-gender-pay-gap-is-largely-because-of-motherhood.html
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May 19, 2017 3:33pm
Longknives

Yet we are always being told that ‘Whanau’ means more to Maori than to us other lowly races/cultures…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/92759396/marks-found-on-isaiah-neil-characteristic-of-a-bite-mark
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May 19, 2017 3:42pm
- KevOB
  
  Little bit of what was fancied?
  Going to have to be care in using diminutives.
  
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  May 19, 2017 3:50pm
- nasska
  
  ….”She described bruising on his abdomen as well as bruising and abrasions on his elbow “characteristic of a bite mark”.”…..
  
  Just a simple misunderstanding. The defendant was merely using a customary technique to check whether the tamariki was ready for the hangi pit.
  
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  May 19, 2017 5:42pm
krazykiwi

When, oh when, will the Herald drop their re-publishing of alarmist drivel.

In this WaPo ‘story’, there is apparently more of a particular type of moss in one corner of Antarctica.

“People will think of Antarctica quite rightly as a very icy place, but our work shows that parts of it are green, and are likely to be getting greener,” said Matthew Amesbury, a researcher with the University of Exeter in the UK and lead author of the study.

Right, so how scientific is ‘likely’? Correct – It’s not.

“Even these relatively remote ecosystems, that people might think are relatively untouched by human kind, are showing the effects of human-induced climate change.”

Except there is not one shred of robust evidence that links any human behaviour with a global climate that has always changed. The closest is a theory linking increased CO2 levels to increased temperature, but the empirical evidence has thoroughly invalidated this theory. Too much money on the line… so the theory is being kept on life-support by vested interests. That includes Matthew Amesbury, and other climate troughers.

Meanwhile, in the real world, Antarctic sea ice has not shrunk in 100 years, and NASA reports that Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001.
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May 19, 2017 4:13pm
Fletch

30 second video – James Comey testifying under oath before Congress that the FBI has never been asked to stop an investigation for a political reason, in his experience, and that that would be a “big deal”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd-BfTMPeFE

And so??
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May 19, 2017 4:29pm
krazykiwi

Just heard The Panel discussing US media, and the ‘lack of balance’ being attributed Fox News, the founder of fake news, and “so right wring [nasty etc]!” and, unbalanced.

Words fail me. A year ago not a single member of the White House press corps was a registered Republican.

The number of US journalists who identify as Republican in the lowest in 50 years.

So, a lack of balance?

Hell yes. We need several more Fox’s to even begin to find some balance.
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May 19, 2017 5:11pm
- nasska
  
  If they need help in coping with a lefty, biased media they could always look to NZ . After all we get there by simply ignoring the opinions expressed in anything & everything the MSM prints or broadcasts.
  
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  May 19, 2017 5:19pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

Seemed only like yesterday this was released, but no, it was 2005 that Fat Freddy’s Drop released Wandering Eye:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCJg63SziL4
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May 19, 2017 5:46pm
- dad4justice
  
  Top song Brigitte.
  
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  May 19, 2017 5:49pm
- Fletch
  
  Here’s my kiwi pick for today –
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D-T9pM9TOE
  
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  May 19, 2017 6:11pm
  - Brigitte
    
    Did you watch Tuesday where she was one of the NZ female singer songwriters interviewed by the one and only Karen Hay?
    
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    May 19, 2017 6:18pm
    - dad4justice
      
      I did, Sharon was cool and Karen Hay gave me enjoyable flashbacks to radio with pictures, which was compulsory viewing for anybody with a braincell back in the day.
      
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      May 19, 2017 6:57pm
    - Fletch
      
      Nah, missed it. I do remember Karen Hay from Radio With Pictures tho, back in the day. She had all those weird and whacky outfits, like wearing cassette tape in her hair etc.
      
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      May 19, 2017 7:20pm
- starboard
  
  Here’s my kiwi pick…
  
  https://youtu.be/gsTbZp34NAk
  
  A fantastic song. Unfortunately, guitarist Kevin Stanton has just passed away. RIP with the super great Steve Gilpin.
  
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  May 19, 2017 6:34pm
dad4justice

A downtick for liking that great kiwi song? God help me, there are sad arse cowardly pus stains that lurk on this blog.
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May 19, 2017 5:59pm
Viking2

A LIVE EXPERIMENT
In Vancouver, their new housing restrictions are having a dramatic effect on the market. Sales are down sharply, down -23.9% in April compared with the same month a year ago. But sellers have withdrawn their homes from listing with inventories down -17%. Both these are huge reactions. And none of this is improving affordability. Their average price is virtually unchanged. “On a seasonally adjusted basis, active residential listings have declined 50 per cent since 2012 and are now at their lowest level in over 20 years. The imbalance between supply and demand is continuing to drive home prices higher in most regions, further eroding affordability,” says the local real estate association. I wonder if this is the market reaction the British Columbia Government had in mind when they imposed their new taxes and market restrictions?

http://www.interest.co.nz/news/87819/review-things-you-need-know-you-go-home-friday-no-rate-changes-migration-peaking-visitor

fuck about with the market in a socialist way and you get what you set out to stop.
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May 19, 2017 6:04pm
nasska

“Cat Killer” Morgan proposes wholesale changes in the way we treat marijuana smokers. “Arch Moralist” & all time know all Bob McCoskrie naturally disagrees & rushes off a press release. http://bobmccoskrie.com/?p=19415#sthash.H1FSRVcd.dpbs

Cripple fight!!!! 🙂
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May 19, 2017 6:56pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Do you disagree with what was said because it was McCoskrie who said it, or because of what was said?
  
  “While Family First welcomes a cautious approach based on extensive research and appropriate safeguards around medicinal marijuana, any hint of liberalising marijuana laws is the wrong path if we care about public health, public safety, and about our young people, and the government is right to maintain the drug’s illegal status.”
  
  “Drug use is both a criminal and a health issue. There is a false dichotomy that criminal sanctions apparently haven’t worked so we should ditch them all together and we should focus only on education and health initiatives. We should maintain both,” says Mr McCoskrie.
  
  That’s reasonable material for debate isn’t it, even if you detest Christians?
  
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  May 19, 2017 7:02pm
  - nasska
    
    Firstly, I don’t “detest” Christians. I regard them as meddlesome prats but I treat them in much the same way as you do a small child running around the lounge screaming “I’m a helicopter”.
    
    Secondly, I’m a fiscal conservative & a social liberal so it’s highly unlikely that I would have much regard for Motormouth McCoskrie or his batshit mad opinions.
    
    I do on occasions, although, give thanks that it his him leading the charge for the Godnutters. If it wasn’t they might find someone competent to take his place.
    
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    May 19, 2017 7:10pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      You see him as “leading the charge for the Godnutters” on this topic? Odd, because I can’t see any mention of Christian, church, faith or God.
      
      The material I clipped is clearly his opinion. Is it “batshit mad” to treat drug dependency as both criminal and medical issues?
      
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      May 19, 2017 7:35pm
      - nasska
        
        From the Family First website:
        
        ….”speak from a family friendly perspective with an emphasis on the Judeo-Christian values which have benefited New Zealand for generations.”….
        
        https://www.familyfirst.org.nz/about-us/
        
        So yes. I think it entirely reasonable to presume that he speaks for Godnutters, Christians, church, faith & God.
        
        …”Is it “batshit mad”?”….
        
        Yes. Especially the insistence that we shouldn’t ditch legal sanctions. They haven’t worked anywhere in the developed world & I have serious doubts that NZ will ever prove to be the exception.
        
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        May 19, 2017 7:45pm
    - dad4justice
      
      What is a Godnutter Hillbilly is it a breed of sheep or something?
      
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      May 19, 2017 7:40pm
      - nasska
        
        Worse. It is a form of life that has abandoned all hope of influencing its own destiny to a magic man in the sky.
        
        Basically beyond hope & headed for extinction. 🙂
        
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        May 19, 2017 7:48pm
      - dad4justice
        
        So a Godnutter is a bit like a sheep grazing in your paddock that is destined to be slaughtered at the local freezing works?
        
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        May 19, 2017 7:53pm
      - nasska
        
        You’ve got me there Dad. Most of the Godnutters I’ve seen staggering out of churches on their Zimmer frames wouldn’t be worth the killing charges. 🙂
        
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        May 19, 2017 7:56pm
      - dad4justice
        
        “You’ve got me there Dad”
        So this Godnutter can chalk that one up as a win?
        Cheers mate 🙂
        
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        May 19, 2017 8:00pm
starboard

specials at work again

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/three-arrests-for-manawatu-dairy-robbery
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May 19, 2017 7:27pm
Jack5

A secret plan to nobble Le Pen had she won the French presidential election is described in the Telegraph, but perhaps behind its pay wall.

The alleged plan, involving chiefs of staff, senior bureaucrats, and some Ministers entailed:

… “freezing” the political situation by convening parliament in an emergency session and maintaining the outgoing prime minister in office until parliamentary elections.

Ms Le Pen would have been forced to “cohabit” with a government and prime minister from a different party, which she could have changed only if she won a parliamentary majority – an unlikely prospect.

The report stems from L’Obs magazine, which says it has drawn on three anonymous sources.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/19/frances-secret-plan-protect-republic-case-marine-le-pen-victory/
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May 19, 2017 8:58pm
- mikenmild
  
  But I keep hearing from the Trumpistas that anonymous sources mean ‘fake news’.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:10pm
  - Kea
    
    Careful milky, the Russian are monitoring your every word. Which must be tedious for them considering you simply repeat everything you read on propaganda pro-war hate sites like CNN and the Washington Post.
    
    The world is a much poorer place for having you in it.
    
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    May 19, 2017 9:45pm
- Inandout
  
  Trump faces similar entrenched forces.
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:34pm
  - Kea
    
    Trump faces a violent movement of extreme terrorists. They have committed mass murders and are rioting in the streets calling for the murder and rape of white people.
    
    Anti Trumpers are terrorists and should be dealt with the same as ISIS. Civilian police should not be put at further risk after the massacres. Air strikes and extermination squads are the norm in such circumstances and should be employed here. They are a far greater threat than the imaginary one of ISIS.
    
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    May 19, 2017 9:55pm
Paul Marsden

Julian Assange rape charges dropped.
A stitch up job after all?? ‎
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May 19, 2017 9:42pm
- Kea
  
  The deportation of Assange was never for rape. That was a media fiction put out by the Obama regime. The dirty filthy animal Obama has hunted down more people who have spoken out, and journalists, than all other administrations combined.
  Assange exposed the evil and crimes of the Obama regime. That was the ONLY reason he was hunted. Not the false rape allegations of some radical Swedish feminist hate mongers.
  
  https://justice4assange.com/assange-case-fact-checker.html
  
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  May 19, 2017 9:50pm
Manolo

Perving is the name of the game:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/05/19/anthony-weiner-sexting-investigation/
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